Doughboys - Crock-Dough-Burn-Pho-Est: Panera 4 with Jason Concepcion

Episode Date: October 16, 2025

Jason Concepcion (@x_netw3rk_x, X-Ray Vision) joins the 'boys to talk Dodger Stadium eats, the NBA, and ASMR before continuing Crock-Dough-Burn-Pho-Est with a review of Panera.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/panera-lawsuit-charged-lemonade-sarah-katz-death-rcna120785https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/panera-breads-charged-lemonade-blamed-second-death-lawsuit-alleges-rcna128036https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/12/man-dies-on-way-home-from-panera-after-having-three-charged-lemonades/https://www.foodandwine.com/panera-charged-lemonade-discontinued-8645202https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2023/12/12/panera-charged-lemonade-caffeine-deaths/71851706007/https://www.panerabread.com/en-us/company/our-history.htmlSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Want to watch this episode? Check it out on our YouTube channel by going to YouTube.com slash doughboys media. On September 10th, 2022, a 21-year-old University of Pennsylvania student with an existing heart condition went into cardiac arrest and died after drinking a chain restaurant's then-new charged lemonade. The victim consuming the beverage without knowing it's extremely. high caffeine content. On October 9, 2023, a 46-year-old grocery worker with an intellectual disability passed away while walking home after also consuming a charged lemonade. Family members speculated that he, too, was unaware of its hyper-caffeinated essence. The tragic deaths were the

subject of two of four lawsuits claiming serious health complications from the caffeine citrus blend, filed against a bakery chain founded as St. Louis Bread Company in 1987, and still using that name in the greater St. Louis area. One victim's family's lawyer noted in their filing that charged lemonade's, quote, 390 milligrams of caffeine is higher than the caffeine content of standard cans of Red Bull and Monster Energy drinks combined, end quote. This factor was exacerbated by the chain's unlimited sip club promotion, which led to consumers drinking refills of the potent concoction, three charged lemonade having roughly the caffeine content of 12 cups of coffee. publicly shamed by the scandal the chain sprang into action.

Eighteen months later, finally discontinuing the lethal lemonade in May of 2024. But drinks are not in the purview of this particular review. Rather, the liquids being surveyed here are not cold and strawed, but instead hot and spooned. Though hopefully, none of them have a secretly sneaky high caffeine content. This week on Doe Boys, we continue Crocdo Burn Fah S. 2025, a supersized month of Biscs, broths, stews, and stocks, and crocs with the soups of Panera. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Tiger Wiger along with my co-host, Nacho Libra, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.

Okay. A little birthday shout out. How about that? Is today my birthday? No, this no. I meant in the recall, yeah, it's on a Monday anyway. Yeah. I was like, where I'm supposed to come out of? This coming Monday.

I didn't know if it was lining up. No, the answer is no. You thought about it for one second. Thought that when we released episodes. But happy birthday. Oh, thanks. Wow, after many years of listening. Nice, happy birthday.

Happy birthday, you fucking idiot. Yeah. I had soup between my fingers. Oh, man. Yeah, a little soup between my fingers. A little soup surprise between my fingers. Was that from the pre-show meal

or was that just there? That was from the meal. Okay, got it. Welcome to Crocdo burn-foest. That's right. Crocdo burn-Fa-S, 2025 continues here on the podcast, a supersized month of Bisk,

broth, stews, and stocks, and crocs. Yeah. My mom is calling me for the third time. Do you want to go pick up? Pick up. Mom? Hey, ma. It's a butt dial.

Hearing anything good? Is she talking trash? She's making out with some dude. Oh, no. What the fuck, ma? Oh, koalic. I was like Donkey Kong's making out with koala. Oh, koalik.

No, I didn't. She was nothing was going on. She was watching the Red Sox game, which is happening. Wow, how about that? To show what I give to this podcast every week. Wow. after many years of listening, like nine, I guess, I thought Weiger would be a glasses guy

according to his voice. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but he sounds like a glasses guy. It's a very good thing, actually. Okay, good day. Doctor, not a doctor, Casey J. Rosed at Birdfock.com. I was a glasses guy and then I got LASIC.

So was I. You and I both at one point. But you did not, you did not get LASIC. No, my eyes correct to themselves after I stopped wearing a contact lenses. This is actually, this is the truth. I was, when I was younger, Nick knows this.

I've said this on the podcast before, but they thought that I, they thought I was developmentally challenged when I was younger. I couldn't read the board. I couldn't read the board. And I was very, I held the book very close to my face.

So like, and they were like, we had to put him in, in special classes in my mom. And then another teacher was like, he might have a vision problem. And then it was the truth. I was almost blind.

It's wild. It wasn't the first thought. Yeah. Yeah. What's that? It's wild that wasn't the first thought. Yes. Well, I mean,

this is the 80s too, which I'm lucky that there was a teacher that said that, right, that even thought that basically, but, but how many problem, like children who are like considered like behavioral problems or like, like held back in school were just like untreated vision and problems? Probably, probably a lot of them. And so, so I went to, so I got, I wore an eye patch over my eye for a full year, uh, because I had lazy eye. Yeah, so did my dad. My dad, uh, oh, no way. You're going to make some jokes about lazy. Yeah, I knew that. Yeah, the lazy is migrated to the rest of your body. Yeah, we've done. We've done.

We've talked about this before. But then they were like, your vision will correct itself over time and then it will go back the other way. Whoa. Like a sort of a Benjamin Button sort of thing. How about that? Yeah, yeah.

Meet you in the middle. Yep. Yep. And that's that. There you go. You're a baseball grinch. The baseball grinch won't let me watch the game. How am I a baseball grinch?

I don't know. I'm just trying to give you a hard fucking time. Shut up. Put it on the second screen. I don't care. Put it on up there, huh? How? I will log into my

We'll log into my direct TV account We'll watch it up there That'll be seamless Mitch I want to give a quick shout out To a book that we are featured in 1001 podcast that changed how we listen By Sean Malin Congrats to Sean on the book

And get this wherever you buy And find books And then right inside You can find a little section On the dough boys themselves So how about that? Under podcasts that Let people know the trend was over

Yeah it's the Hall of Shame sort of chapter, so a lot of fun. It says our influences listed as late night with Conan O'Brien, the Simpsons, Adam Sandler, the Cone brothers, Jesse Thorne, and Bill Simmons. Wow.

How about that? Yeah. Little Simmons shout out. Is that your copy? No, this is just here. Do you want it? Yeah, give me. I'm stealing it. Yeah. Sorry, headgum. Mitch, I know you got a drop to play. I'm going to hit him with a drop.

I wish Hawk Gruntie was real. I want to see some nasty grunty picks. I want to see hot grunty. It's all for me. Kill myself. For the game over screen? Mitch and Widen fell in love at first glance.

Hot grunty. Hot grunty. Oh. That's her. One look at hot grunty you're done for it. I like how you knew her sound in the year. I know I know when she's hot grunty. We're going to get D.C.

You know, I have the same time. I guess we'll find out. Maybe it was a karaoke track. Yeah, I mean, it's okay. Goodbye, YouTube. Yeah, we'll say. D.K. usually tests them on YouTube before he sends them. So, okay.

It should be okay. Might have been recreated from scratch. D.K's in the lab, checking it out. All right. Hi, Doe fam. Shout out to Cram in the Dose Chord for the free drop idea. And Huell Houser slash Shifty, also both in the Dosecord for the lyrical collab. Wow.

I hope the drop doesn't get Mitch too. Hot and Grunty. Cheers. Thomas. Letten Tickles in the Dosecord. Ah. Nice little tribute to a, what a crew of those quarters. To Hot Grunty from Banjo Cazooey. Yes. She's very attractive. When you fail Banjo Cazooey that then ultimately you get hot grunty. And we were failing. Look, people don't like that. People don't like that I do Rule 34, so I'm not going to do it. No, don't do it. I'm not going to do it. But I did look up Hot Grunty on Rule 34. It was great. I put it up on the second screen. We should shout out behind the dais today, being subjected to our bullshit, along with Emma and Amelia, is Emma's sister, Haley.

Hi, Haley. Thanks for being here. Hi. I'm happy to be here. In town, on work, just happened to hang out. What a waste of your time. We're so sorry. Yeah, we're sorry.

Jemmy's stoked. There was a video that Haley showed of, like, of, of, of, Jimmy reacting to you, your unexpected presence, and it was so dark. Was she going crazy? Oh, yeah, making gremlin noises. Yeah, noises I don't think I've ever. hurt her mate. She lost her mind. If she sounded like hot grunting, I'd be, all right.

Getting a little nervous sitting next to her. If jemmy was a grandma, I'd be pouring water all over. I'd want multiple jemmies. Would they be bad? Yeah, someone will be bad. No, if you feed him after midnight. Oh, right. That's true, yeah. Jobs at birdfuck.com. Our guest

returning to the podcast, very excited to have him back. Co-host the X-ray Vision podcast and the official Game of Thrones podcast, Jason Concepcion is here. Jason. Hey, thank you for having me. Thanks so much to be here. Thank you for being here. Oh, my God. What a treat. It's been a while. I think the last time we had you on, we were talking about Mr. Beast Burger during the pandemic. That's right. Which was, which was a real, real gnarly meal. It was so terrible. Mr. Beast also trying to be, there were a lot of people who, like, who, from people back home, like, Mr. Beastburger is good.

I was like, no. What are you talking about? That's how I feel, too. I'm with you. Who are these people back home? Shields, he said it. Oh, Shieldsie said it. Okay. Shieldsie. Great. But I was, it was... Heard Shields, you say a lot of things. Yes. Look, we too. Not repeat on the podcast. Yes, yes, yes.

We love them. We love them. We love them. We do. He's a very great guy. He's a great guy. A fun hang. But, uh, but yes. Also, by the way, uh, baseball grinch, you're up against a clock here. That's right. With, with, you're, you're going to the Dodgers game. That's right. So we, and we have, we, we talk too much. bulls. Even right now. No, it's fine. It's fine. Don't think about it. Don't think about it. Baseball Grace doesn't care. He wants you to miss the game. It's true. I can see it in his eyes. Wait, no, never. The malevolence, that kind of twinkle, an evil cold twinkle that he has and that big open

mouth smile. You could see is like swallowing up all my dreams of seeing the Dodgers but it's fine. It's fine. Let's just go at your own pace. I feel like his heart would grow three times at size if we gave him a Dodgers dog or something. Oh my God. Yeah. You're kidding me? When's the last time you went to Dodger Stadium? It's been a while. I mean, I did go, I mean, I went to a game in recent years, but it's done a little bit, you know. I haven't seen Otani yet, which is, which I really want to see. What?

I know. I mean, it's only been there a couple seasons, right? It's been three seasons, yeah. Three seasons, okay. So, yeah, I need to get back there. But yeah, it's been, it's been since pre-Otani. But I like Dr. Stadium, and I like, pre-COVID, I'm guessing, right? It's how to, yes.

Probably. Probably. but I'm like I'm a great stadium in terms of eats do you have any go to eats when you're there I go classic Dodger dog yeah I get the nachos in the helmet I'll get the the soft serve ice cream with the churro in the helmet I don't I'm loving this I don't really do any of the the more upscale food offerings sure there's a Korean place in there there's a couple of Japanese places in there there's the taco and there's the Hawaiian stand I go straight Dodger Stadium classic food.

Are you saving them helmets? Only when I get a size that I have not previously had. Got it, yeah. Yeah. Because how many you're going to have in your own home? I try to give the, I'll give the helmet to a kid. Oh, there you go.

That's nice. Yeah, give it to a baby for a baby's baseball game or something that works out. Amelia was giving you a finger wag. In a good way. For what? For the soft serve helmets. I was saying like, yes. Sometimes you just have to do it.

Yeah, yeah. Is that the best way to eat ice cream out of a helmet? That's a good question, Wags. You know what? It is up there. I feel like Murder Brian of the guy's podcast or our friend Brian Quinby would argue that, yes, it is. He's a big soft serve and a baseball helmet sort of guy.

Do you think some of these major leaguers are doing it when they go into the clubhouse? I think so, yeah. Otani and Mookie Betts and all of them. They're filling up their Dodgers helmet. with some ice cream. I think that it might happen. Yeah, I mean, I think you recruit a bat boy to do it on your behalf.

Yeah, you could say, hey, kid, get me some run up, get me some soft serve. Yeah, I'll make it worth your while. A couple of churros. Oh, does that mean? I know what it means. Whatever you want. I, Dodger Stadium for me, Dodger Dog, of course. Yeah.

But a thing that I associate with Dodger Stadium, which maybe isn't even correct, but garlic fries. Oh, yeah, no, they have those. Yeah. A lot of fun. I don't know why. I don't know if it was like. they had them earlier or something, but I always think of the garlic prize at Dodgers Stadium, and then

They used to have a Dracula problem is the thing. Oh, right, yes, because Hollywood. Hollywood's there, the Drax are always Swarman. Bram Stokers, Dracula was there. Yeah, yeah, Count Chocula. Morbius was there. Morbius was there, so they got to just warm up. And Morpheus, Morpheus and Morpheus.

Morpheus was also there. Well, Morpheus was not a problem. Well, Morpheus actually a virtual character. Yes, that's true. Can you imagine a vampire in the Matrix-wise? There were in the second one. Yeah. Right.

Oh, that's right. They were, there were, but they were basically vampires. The Wachowski's could imagine it, too, I guess. They're good at imagining stuff. I also will get a Michelada, as I call them, a michelada. Yeah, that's fun. And I think those are a fun Dodger Stadium. They're probably at every park now.

But when I came to Dodger Stadium for the first time, I was like, garlic fries and a Micheladda, and I really enjoyed those bad boys. They're great. you like a Michelada? Yeah, I do. Am I saying it poorly? No, I think you're saying it pretty. Micellata.

You know, I don't know. I mean, you're the one who's studying Spanish. I am swimming Spanish. I think that's basically correct. Okay, right. Are you, no, yes, no. I do know, I like it. Yeah, I wonder, a beer with some, you know,

Clamato, basically. Yeah, that's a lot of fun. I've gotten them pre-canned as well, and sometimes those are like, they're okay, but, you know, it gets the job done. It's not quite the same thing. I did get a really bad one once,

where I think the lady didn't know how to make them. And so I just got, like, basically, like, a beer with Worcester sauce in it. Oh, no. This fucking sucks. Yeah, that's fucking awful. They come sometimes in, like, bats, bat cuts. Yes, yeah. Yes, which is insane.

Well, there's a challenge. I don't know if you know this wise, but it's nine dogs, nine beers in nine innings. Do you know of this challenge? I've heard of this, yeah. It just is just, it just seems impossible. Why do it to yourself is the thing? I guess mini Dodger, dogs, do you think, I don't know. Maybe if I was a minis count, though.

Like, and if you're doing the minis, why even bother? Yeah, it can't count. You can't do a super dodger dog when you do it? I don't know. I mean, like, whatever the actual parameters of the challenge are, I think you've got to try to live up to that if you want to get to your usual check part. You have the full nine innings to do it. Yeah. What would be your pace?

Here's the thing. I think 10, the way baseball games used to play, I would probably be able to do it at the height of my eating and drinking when I was like in my 20s. I think I could have done it at one point. Pre-pitch clock. Yes, right. Pre-pitch. 100% with the pitch clock now no way on earth I could do it

there's no way but I think my strategy would be to spread them out like I might try to bolt a couple up top but then after that I think I want to go to like a one dog I think I would take three dogs down immediately three dogs down right away three dogs three beers in the first inning yeah and then the second inning I just go try to go one in one

right yeah and then like I'm shocking I get the beers done I think and be very drunk and it'd be a horrible drive home but But all that dogs are driving, it'll be fine. But the dogs, the dog, I mean, it's just, it's nine buns. This is the thing you talk about. The buns is the issue.

Nine buns is, nine buns is hard. Yeah. Are you going to dip those in water like a, like a, you know, Kobayashi or Joey Chestnut? I mean, I don't know. But that is the other one, too, is Joey Chestnut eat 60 of those bad boys. You can't do nine of them. You know what I mean? I mean, I think, I think, I think, I think, it's a professional.

I think that you could do it. It's one of those things where it's like you, it's like measuring yourself up against a professional marathoner. You know what I mean? It's like they're running like 26 five minute miles in a row. It's like I couldn't run one five minute mile. It's a completely different level of human achievement. Could you dip the bun in the beer and then kind of double up that way?

That's pretty good. That is pretty good. I mean, I just would not be, I personally wouldn't enjoy it. I would just hate it. No, it's not. Yeah, that's the whole thing. It's like, it's like. I guess you wouldn't be having that much.

fun doing this anyway. I'm too old to do these food challenges. I just can't do this anymore. I can't punish my body. We did the chicken nugget power hour. And I still want to do some stuff like that because it's funny or slash fun. And I just think that you could be the guy who you watch over it. You lord over it.

Yeah, that's fine. I'll do that. I'll be, I'll mediate. I do think you have to do one last shrimp off just to make things right. Wow. That's it. I don't want to do it. I know.

You don't want to do anything, though. You don't want to do anything. So just try one thing or two things. I'll see. Well, see, that's perfect. That's all I need. Just say, I'll see, and you never do it, and then it will be fine. Jason, it's give me the hope.

Yeah, I know you're, I know you're Dodgers fan, but I know you're also a huge New York Knicks fan of the NBA season is approaching. How are you feeling about your Knickerbockers? Feeling good. I'm feeling positive. There's been a change of coaching. Yes. Everybody seems healthy. We've brought in some new players.

And I feel good. I feel as good as I've ever felt going into a next season. Wow. Okay. Because last year, you had the obvious edition of Carl Anthony Towns pretty late in the off season. Yes. And that ended up working out pretty well in terms of making a run to the conference finals. But it was definitely adjustment.

A big adjustment. Some kinks to work out. Yeah. With the new coaching. And you know, you kind of feel like, okay, we're going to make use of our entire roster. And I feel good. It's nice to be a Knicks fan. It's one of the highlights of life right.

I don't like it personally. I was at the last. good Celtics game with front of the pogged Zach Cherry and it was the last time that the Celtics like when we beat the Knicks at Madison Square Garden pretty handily and then uh hand handedly hand handedly

now I don't know handedly handedly handedly now I'm second guessing it I think it's handily in that I think it is handily handily okay handily okay we beat them handily and um and then it's just true nightmare then you beat something else handily Well, have you seen the video of your guy, Jason Tatum, working out doing full basketball moves, mere months after tearing his Achilles?

Makes me so happy for him and also terrified that he's going too fast. But, I mean, I know that they will slow him down and make him. How is this possible? Yeah, how is this possible? They said that no one's ever been this young and then also have never gotten the surgery that fast ever. That's what they say. It's basically immediate, right? Right. That's what they said. And that leads me to ask, like, why has everyone been like, let me just hang out with this ruptured tendon in my leg for like two, three days?

Yes. Why not go immediately and get it? Yeah. I think that he was so lucky that he was in New York City, one of, you know, a good city, one of the good cities of the world. And there was like an amazing doctor there. And I think it was just like, let's do this right now. And I think so many of those guys are like, who am I going to go with and what am I going to do? whatever. They try to figure it out and they fly him. And he didn't have to fly either. That's the other thing too. It was like, I guess if you go up in a plane with that injury can fuck you up to or whatever. But I was shocked to hear him say that he had like even like, will I ever play again or do I retire? And I was, oh, my God. But I mean, look, he's a professional athlete. He's

a, you know, they're, they're superheroes compared to us. So I'm excited for him. I was, I was like, oh, the season's over. Now I am hopeful for next season. So the team, our team is completely different now and do the Knicks now kind of are they the are they the favorites I guess I mean I hope so I really hope so so if he had ruptured his Achilles in Boston it would have been they had to get like a Walberg to do it or something there's not like they don't have a guy up they don't have people up there that can do it there is a doctor in the back of Walbergers that would do it we have if for like any of our guests if you like bust your gut from eating or laughing yes right yeah there's never

been one from laughing. No, but it's a, you know, it's a possibility. Yeah, we, we, we have a doctor nearby that we send you to. Yeah. A vet. Boston has like a pretty good, like, hospital medical system, right? Yeah. Oh, of course. My, my, my, um, my dad went to one of the, you know, when he had cancer, went to one of the mass general, one of the best hospitals in the entire world. Yeah. A great, great spot. But I don't know if it would have happened there, but I guess they had the doctor in town and he just, he went for it, which is great news for me. Do you think you will play this year? I can't imagine it.

Yeah. But that video, he's moving so well. And he doesn't seem to be like going 80%. Like he seems to be like really going for it. Yeah. It's shocking. And it leads me to believe, I guess we will see him this year sometime, even though that doesn't make any kind of sense to me. Yeah.

I could see him coming in at like in April, well, depending on where the team is. It's where I are. Like, if they're in the playoff hunt, you know, but if they're like, right, you know, on the margins for a play in spot, then I don't know. I mean, we'll see. Maybe this becomes like Tommy John where if you get it young enough, you have, like, a stronger tendon. Like, guys will be like, well, I'm 22.

Maybe I should just rupture my tendon now. That is great. That makes me feel old just thinking of, like, like, over the course of my life, Tommy John has just become, like, a normal surgery that so many people get now. And, like, it used to be like, oh, they might be done forever or whatever. but yeah I think it seems like it seems it seems like it's all good and also maybe the mental stuff won't be as bad because it was so quick you know what I mean like maybe maybe he'll be you know what I mean because I think so many they say so many people that tear their Achilles are like it's all mental coming back so right we'll see I like I like I like feel about the Lakers I'm going to feel all right we'll see it's it's it's weird because of the LeBron situation you know it seems like he's like kind of half in half out but but I think they were it's and it's It's just like a kind of like a weird like liminal state where like clearly they're transitioning to Lucas, the new face of the franchise, but LeBron is still there. He has such legacy, has such cachet.

I don't know what the team will look like next season. I think they'll be, they'll be competitive with the West. The thing is the West is so stacked. I hope that LeBron doesn't play for the Monstars. Yeah, I mean, that would be a real heel turn if you went over to play for the Monstars after battling them in Space Jam, a new legacy. Yes. Yeah. I also think contractually, I'm not sure.

Yeah. Probably couldn't. Maybe it's a different league, I guess. You know, I was at Vidiates, the local video store and movie theater here in Los Angeles and Eagle Rock this week to see a preview of the HBO show task. Oh, wow. And there was a panel with the show creator, Brad Inglesby and Mark Ruffalo was there and Tom Pelfrey, the two of the stars.

And in the audience, Bronny James. Wow. Wow. Just hanging out. Ronnie James. How about that? And it turns out he is dating the director, Sally Whitfield's daughter. Wow.

Wow. That's amazing. I was like, why the fuck is Bronny James here? There's a chance that he was sitting in the birthday boy's dedicated seat at Vigniates. Where's your seat? Yeah, which seat is that? It's like a little wider than the other ones for me. I don't know where it is actually.

I tried to find it one day and I couldn't, I was like looking at every... How did this come to be? How did this come to exist? Ferguson was like, do you guys want to do this? And we were like, yeah, and that was it. And then, you know, Ferguson, he's a little busy bee. It was a little bit of a, like a donation to support this local institution to get the designated birthday boy's chair. How about that?

There's a lot of, there's names on like every chair, I believe. Right. So we should be in there. We are supposed to have a chair. I'm going to ask Ferguson. You're right next to the Kevin Spacey chair? Kevin, yeah, and there's no arm on his chair So he can reach over

Yeah, the screening save it private Ryan It's taped off reserved Oh man Yeah, this is the thing The thing, like, because I was with Mitch When the Jason Tatum injury happened And we were having a fucking doughboys meal Awful

At Planet Hollywood And they just had it on the big screen It was a horrible meal And like it's the sort of thing Like it's like I'm rooting for the Knicks obviously As a Celtics hater as a Lakers fan But I like I just like It's terrible tainted the series

Because like it was the Knicks were going to win anyway But then it just you feel bad about it No come on They're gonna be up 3-1 Now let me ask you this Conspiracy Brain Maybe he's just ducking the ducking the loss What about that?

What about Jason Tatum? He told his own Achilles. Doing the math and thinking, you know what? I don't want to be on the court when we lose to these Knicks. The four-dimensional checks. That's why he's coming back so fast. You're saying nothing even happened. Let me just drop to the ground.

Pound on the floor. They say that with all the Celtics. Pierce was faking it with his leg and drink. He did canonically faking. All right. Hold on. Are we going to get the Celtics? He, they told him to get in a wheelchair and he got in a wheelchair.

This was so the ver for the dais. Paul Pierce does not get enough damn receipts. I imagine most of our listenership. Look, I like Paul Pierce. He's from, he's from Southern California. He's a legend. He's a funny guy. He's a funny guy, you know.

But, but yes, this was a, this was an NBA finals game. Um, he was, uh, injured and taken away in a wheelchair and then returned to that same sort of game. But the, the conspiracy theory, the same game, the conspiracy theory for a long time was that what actually happened is he shit his pants. Yeah. And the wheelchair was covered for him to get out of there, uh, without everyone, you know, seeing a big brown thing.

Which he's also just played into. Yeah. Like, he's leading into it. laid into or basically said is true. I think that he joked that it was true, but it wasn't really true. Yeah, sure. Okay.

And even if he did shit his pants, in our line of course, that happens all the time. It's funny. I think it's funny if he did that. Yeah, yeah. I think it's fine. It's like,

well, whatever. It happens. By the way, Ferguson confirmed that, yes, we do. Somebody sent me a pick once, but I forget what row.

And I was just laughing because the message I had last sent Ferguson was what's your wife's Instagram? So, Jason, we, you know, we mentioned Mr. Beesburger. We also, I'm realizing you had you on for Shake Shack. We've talked burgers with you a few times. Have you had any good burgers lately? Are burgers something that's often in your meal rotation?

I love a burger. Although now I've discovered I have a history, a family history. of gout so maybe I'm going to have to be careful with this but uh low boy on sunset oh man i haven't we just had low boy for dinner last night it's got burgers my favorite burger in la it's fantastic it's on my list I've never been there and it's great great great great very great very good burger awesome great what's the like what makes it a good burger it's a good smash burger it's seasoned well the the bun doesn't get in your way they do potato buns I believe, so they're really soft.

Oh, I've had Low Boy, and I do love it. Sorry, I was confused. It's very, very, very good. It's very, very good. Mitch is deep in Ferguson's wife's Instagram right now. He's just like diving through. He's like 11 years back at this point. You know, the vegetables are really fresh.

So there's that wonderful mix of textures. Just a great flavor. The fries are solid. Fries are good. Just a good burger. What style of fries we talk? they're like that's funny there's a there was a food truck that used to be at special olympics that we used to go to all the time as kids and they would literally like put the potato

and like crank it right into the fryer they were so fresh and low boys fries remind me of that it's like super fresh like crispy potato shoestring style yeah it's nice yeah wow really nice when is it when is the next i'm i'm coming up there for uh for special olympics yeah yeah we'll go the good the best games to go to her in like usually the first or second weekend of june steak we're gonna do it we're gonna rage wow they have they have they canceled really easily like if there's even like a hint of weather they'll be like oops can't do it so like it gets frustrating sometimes but we'll make it it's gonna happen someday we're gonna rage too i like the sound of that yeah we're gonna rage

gets canceled easily sounds like the doughboys uh yeah we gotta we gotta make it out there sometime i can't wait to be on the news getting arrested because i'm too drunk at the special events it'll be great be a great time. Is that like a smash burgers that we're looking for? You're looking for a burger that's kind of straight ahead? Because I feel like as I've gotten, you know, I'm the burger boy. And as I've gotten older, like I like a simpler, more streamlined burger.

I don't need too much stuff on it. I used to love a burger that was like loaded up with a bunch of toppings. But now I'm just like, you know, make it a little more straight ahead. I want a straight ahead burger. Yeah, yeah. Classic style burger that, you know, I don't like those. I don't like burgers that I'm like, I got to smash it down. I can't get it in my mouth.

Yes, right. Just give me a normal size burger with the regular fixings on it. And if you can nail that, I'm in. And they do it. I'm in the top 1% of mouth sizes, as I've learned. You are. And the, I'll sometimes, you'll sometimes get one of those burgers. Yeah, I'm Mr. T.

Well, we'll sometimes get one of those burgers that's so bulbous that even I can't fit into my mouth. And I'm just like, this is insane. I'm like the top end of what's possible. And you're not, I can't jam it into my gaping maw. You know what I mean? That's, I, I, too, look, I have an issue with too thick of a patty and too much toppings, both I don't like. But Haley, I hate to do this to you and bring you into this podcast. Is there anything, people say when they come here, they're going to try in and out burgers.

Is there a place that you need to, is there a place that you want to eat at when you come here or no? Not really particularly. I feel like you have a good gauge of, like, certain restaurants. So if she says it's good, you know, I trust her. I might take her to dintai fun because I don't. I've never been there. And that's a good one. I'm like the least picky eater.

So like I will try anything once and kind of eat anywhere. I was going to try to set you up and ask what you thought of the in and out. Because you love in and out. I do like it never. She's had in and out before. And don't you think that sometimes they go a little crazy on the toppings that in and out or no? I don't know. I mean, it's, you know, again, it's in, for me I grew up with it.

So like it's a buy of a memory. You know that I've come around. I love In and I've always thought. Are you talking the secret menu or are you talking just regular? Just regular. A regular double-double. I mean, yeah, it's got a little bit of a pretty thick layer of veggies, I guess, if you think about everything.

But, I mean, I don't know. You can streamline it a little bit. You can customize. I think a single cheeseburger in and out, like you're not getting the meat. The ratio is not right. No, the double-double is the correct ratio. I agree with you there. Okay.

That's all I was going to say. No, I think it's a reasonable take. And then Natalie always says, the double burger is like kind of the default burger, the measure of a burger. So I think that's a pretty good gauge for In-N-Out burger as well. What do you, okay, like, let's say, because you're a podcaster, you're also a writer.

Do you have me go to writing snacks or writing beverages? Nuts, all kinds of nuts. All kinds of nuts. All kinds of nuts. Almonds. Yeah. Pecans.

Pistachios shelled or unshelled. Trail mix. Oh, yeah. Just any kind of fingery, you know, Gardetto's little which is like a regional pretzel. Yes, right.

You got a gasp from the dais. Gardettos are good. They're like a Midwest thing, right? Yeah, they're like a Midwest thing. We get them shipped out. That kind of stuff. Fingery, kind of like I'll take one, chew on it for a long time

while I'm thinking about something. And beverage, you know, just water and coffee. Lots of coffee. Yeah. Would you have a caffeine cutoff? No. man i like i i had to start instituting that because i finally if i have coffee after like if i caffeine at all after like 2 p.m i'm just like that has to be a day where it's like i really need

energy because i'm paying for it later on so those lingering that the half life of coffee just sticks with me i bet micha how are you with caffeine do you avoid it later in the day or well i mean you're drinking a coke zero now i mean in the evening so i guess the answer is no what time is it yeah six 15 um i mean i i'll have a coke zero mini with dinner. But like, I never felt like Coke would affect me that much. But maybe as I get older, it does. And maybe I should start. My issue right now is, you know this. I start taking Lexa Pro. I have long COVID. And I'm, that's, it's helping me deal with it. But, um, my sleep is out the window. Yeah. Horniness gone. Sleep gone. Sure. Which there wasn't much of the first one anyways. And

there wasn't much of the second one either. Like I, you know that I would be a night owl. But it, it, I do need to start figuring out how to get, I told you in the last couple of months the sleep issue has been tougher. And I've taken my medicine earlier in the day, but I still, I still can't get to sleep. There's another thing that you can take that used to be used for as an antidepressant, but now is like a sleep. He doesn't want to give me Ambien because I think he's afraid of me getting addicted to Ambien. Right. Yeah. So he's not giving me that. But I, maybe this is a part of it. Maybe I got to start cutting out the, the Coke zeros at night and not drink any caffeine beyond like 3 p.m. or something.

Is it that you can't get to sleep or that you wake up? up in the middle of the night and can't get back to sleep. Oh, man. You know what? That's now happened to where I'll wake up and I'll be done for it. I know that's Wags issue. Yeah, that's a big thing for me. I used to have more trouble falling asleep.

Now it's more staying asleep. Yeah. But for me, the pandemic messed me up on sleep forever maybe. And I don't know if I'm, I've always been trying to get better from that. But then like, like for me now, now it would be like two or three is a good night from the, like with the medicine. And that sometimes I will be like, yeah, a bad night is four. or even closer to five. So that is like...

Wait, wait, how number of times you're waking up? No, no, no, going to bed. Oh, going to bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which is, which is tough. And I like, I've done the thing where I'm like, all right, I'm not sleeping and then I'll still be awake at night. Like, like, for whatever reason, but... Like to try to reset it where you're like, let me just go at 24 hours and not sleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then I won't, I'll be exhausted and I'll be trying to keep myself up to, like, you know, it'll be like 6 p.m. And I'll be like, I can't go to bed. Yeah, I'm staying up. And then I just hit a point in the night where I just don't, I'm not tired at all. Yeah, anytime we tried that in the past, what ends up happening is I just sleep 11 hours that night and it was just fucked again. You know what I mean? So it just does not work.

The only thing that's ever gotten to work for me is just having the exact same waking time every single day, like just not sleeping in. So, I mean, some days you'll be tired, but at least you're like, you know, you're regimented in that regard. Our very first tour, we laughed because you came out at nighttime in sunglasses. I remember. That's true. So you were battling the stuff, and you had the, did you have the neon light with you or whatever?

There's not a neon light, but you have some sort of light. Well, I did, yeah, so I did have a light visor for a time, which I got, you know, like a sleep specialist got me like, like, oh, you need one of these things that shoots UV light right in your eyes. And I talked to someone else. I was like, oh, yeah, I bought this fucking $60 visor to approximate anything I could do just by just going outside. So that's why I go on like first thing in the morning every morning once the sunrise is I go on a little like a 20 minute walk. Imagine being on the road with Wags the first time And at 10.30 p.m. He comes out in sunglasses

And how you're supposed to fucking... Hi, guys. And you're like, what the fuck is going on? I remember Carl Tart thought it was doing a bit. And I was like, we all thought you were doing a bit. Do I do bits? Put on sunglasses to like, hey, guys, look at me. I feel like we had been drinking too.

So we like got back to the Airbnb and then we came down in sunglasses and we were all like, how much did he drink? For like 10 seconds I thought you were cool as hell I feel dumb asking this But like what about edibles or CBD or anything It's I mean it's it's a good question

And I like I For me very often I found that that gives me more anxiety Yeah I'm not sure does that work for you at all It does in getting me to sleep But then I have the problem where three, four in the morning I wake up and then I wake Right

Yeah that's always the biggest bummer for me Yeah, but like I've gotten better at being able to go back to sleep, but it's so often it's just like, okay, the thing I've been doing lately is just like, hey, if I wake up and I have like racing thoughts or something like this, this was something my therapist told me is like, I'll just go and like write those down and just writing them down, we'll kind of get them out of my head and also just like getting out of bed where I'm not worried about, oh, fuck, I can't fall back to sleep, but I'm doing something else. Then when I go back, that'll usually, that'll work for me at least. Is that your notebook that was said kill Mitch over and over again? my hands around Mitch's neck I'm squeezing his eyes become bloodshot I feel for you for dealing with with all that stuff

I mean you have sleep issues too we all do The Mitchells are broken we shouldn't we should become extinct after I die I mean that's the truth of them but you know that's the truth of the matter I don't say that our timeline is done

come on it's over we add it's a good run There's another Mitchell, there is one more, Jake Mitchell is, there's one last Mitchell. Okay, he sounds cool. Yeah, he's cool. He is cool. But, you know, for me, it's, let's just call it here.

I mean, do we want, do I want a future, my generation of Mitchells in the, like a future generation of Mitchell's in the world? It seems like it's not going great, right? That's true, but like, you know, they have that seed bank, like, where is that in Norway or something? Oh, sure, yeah, yeah. Did you want to, like, drop something off of the seed bag? Drop something in a vial at the seed bag or something? I might do something like that.

Mike Mitchell, you know, put a little Sharpie on it. Can I just put this in there? Sir, we just don't take random samples from people. This is just supposed to be like sapling. It's in a lunch bag? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I, I, I'll, I'm figuring it out slowly, but it is not, sleep has not been, it hasn't been good for, for, for,

minute. Also, by the way, you brought up gout, the king's disease, as they call it. The king's disease, rich man's disease. But you had a very funny story about your, uh, oh, do you, is it off limits? Okay, I'm, sorry. My, uh, my mom, my mom has been having like weird, uh, issues with her joints recently. Like she, uh, she was coming out to my wedding party, uh, in the, in the summertime. And when she was out here, she was trying on, uh, high heels at like two in the morning.

and then she hurt her leg. She had to get a walking boot, whatever. She texts me two weeks ago and tells me, hey, so I went to the emergency room this week, which she didn't tell me at the time. It's like five days later. Yeah, which we bonded over with, yeah. And she's like, and multiple doctors looked at my foot

and my leg and my ankle, and it turns out I have gout, and it turns out we have a history of gout in the family because I talked to your aunt and she also has gout and also your uncle has gout and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay, mom, that's concerning obviously but you can you know I've known people with gout you can get that under

control with your diet what have you been eating and she has she's recently like last year joined this older ladies like Facebook group and they're like menace they're out on the town all the time they're eating out four or five nights a week and she told me that she's among many other things eating an average of two whole lobsters a week She's been eating two lobsters a week for almost a year? That's so good. That rules. Yeah, that rules.

Yeah, for a whole year. That's a lot of butter, too, is probably the big issue. Yeah, yeah. Because by itself, probably not the worst you could do. She told me all the things that she has been eating and that she's been eating at home, which include, I guess she's been snacking on tins of sardines, which are a big. That's a big one. That's a big one.

her gout as well, which she's just, like, smashing tins of sardines in between huge lobster feasts. So, yeah, you know, and my joke in the house has been, you know, well, I can't eat that because of my gout, which makes my wife huge fan on this podcast, by the way. Oh, hell, yeah. Wow. Okay. I pointed at her right now, because when this comes out, it's going to be on the device in the

in the kitchen. and she's going to be watching it while she's doing something in there. Oh, hey, buddy. Hey, what's up? And then she's always like, and then she's always like, you don't have,

you don't have gout. You don't eat two lobsters a week. Yes, right. You're fine. But I'm concerned about it. Yeah, it'll be proactive. You're going to be ahead of the game, you know. I had, I told the story

when I had cellulitis when my foot got bigger at school. Yeah. My foot, like, blew up and I had to take my shoe off. Yeah, I think that I could get gout at some point. I'm surprised that neither of us have gotten it from... Maybe I have it. I don't know. I'm in the doctor in a while.

Yeah. Get back over there. I guess. I don't know. What do you mean you guess? What the hell? I don't... Did you like going to the doctor?

No. You like it? Yeah. You like it? Yeah. Why? Well, she's a freak. I like, I watch a cranial nerve exams,

ASMR to go to bed. I like, like, medical stuff. What are he talking about? Oh, she's... Look, look. Look. We, look. We should have known that this would happen.

What is a cranial nerve exam? It's when they... Cranial nerve exam, ASMR. ASMR. They're like asking people questions. Yeah, they take like a penlight and they're like, all right, look here. Okay, look here.

Oh, got it, got it. And they're like, okay, can you feel this? Is this sharper doll? And they examine you. You were drunk in my house once and you put one of these on it, like one of them. Yeah, I was like eight. We, like, ate McDonald's to it.

It's fun. You know that I, you know, I'm an ASMR person. You are? Yeah, you did not, dude, was this before your time? Yeah, maybe. I remember you were talking about this in the kitchen at Palmerston. Okay, yeah, so maybe before your time. Did you ever see Palmerston?

No. Wow, you never saw Palmerston. Wild. Do you watch, is your name? Like JFK, not knowing about the Beatles. That's true. Whoa. Yeah, it's the same.

Same thing. You did you imagine the moment? overlapping, but no. G.B. I think her name is. I know G. B. Yeah, G. B. I used to watch it. Yeah, she is good. I like Ting-Ting. Ting-Ting? All right. I got to watch Ting-Ting. I got to check out Ting-Ting. G-B's pretty. She was one of the O.G. She's a pro. Yeah. And makes like, you know, more money than everyone, anyone. Yeah, sure. More money than most people in Hollywood. God bless them.

Make off of a pretending to be a doctor and shining a light in people's eyes, which is great. Good for her. different role plays. It's not sexual, but it's just like school nurse or like, yeah, like, it gets a little, it gets a little, it gets a little, it gets a little, it gets a little, it gets a little, it feels a little bit horny. If you're not, it's just cool. Well, that's ASMR is weird in that way because it feels good. Right. But like, you know, sometimes, you know, like it comes from weird source, it comes from like a weird source you don't expect or whatever. Yeah, it's right, yeah. No, it's not sexual. It's like, you know, it's like a school nurse. It's like sexy library. Right, right. It's like pizza delivery man. You know, it's like class. It's like, it's like,

or no actor. It's something sexual. It's just for fun. It's just for fun, though. Let's, if you, if you hit, like, if you were, like, whispering to me or something, you could, you could maybe give me. Hey, Mitch.

Oh, never mind. Hey, buddy. You could give me ASMR. Amelia knows us. This is the thing. I thought you were going to say you could give me a boner. I do get ASMR from librarians. Really?

Really? Wow. Shh, quiet, Amelia. It's like that sort of thing. I didn't know that you could get I didn't know that you could get ASMR without like equipment Yeah right like I didn't think it could happen

Yeah Don't you need like headphones No I mean like like when I was younger I remember like being in a class And like someone was like whisper And that's like the first time I got That's what I'm saying Because sometimes it can be like

And that was your pretty girl is whispering And it was your first storias Yeah it's also that too But like like kind of It's weird because sometimes it can be like, oh, that's like, this girl, I think is cute as doing it and it's giving me a SMR. And then also it can, it cannot be like any sexual at all. It's very, it's a very strange thing. And a lot of people don't, a lot of people don't even know what it is because they don't get it.

Do you, have you gotten it ever or no? I think so. Have you experienced it? It's like a full body tingles when it's like a certain. Yeah, I don't think it happens. I have not full body, but I've, I've felt it like in the skin of my scalp. Yeah. Okay, got it.

Yeah. It feels when, it feels really good when you're, when you got it. Like, and sometimes you know you can get it. Like, there's like weird, it's strange. Yeah. I don't know why it happens. I know I'm going to get it at the doctor. That's why I love going to the doctor.

I love going to the dentist. I love doing all those things that like, I don't know. It just triggers it. Librarian. Okay. I don't mind the dentist because I feel like I like. That's insane. No, because they come away feeling clean.

Eye doctor is a big one. They do whisper to you because they're so. close I did I've told this story before but speaking of I whispering eye doctors I did my eye doctor was this was this was many years ago but she was a new eye doctor and she was leaning in close while she was giving me an exam and she goes kiss me I said to this day I can't believe you did I just froze I was like I was like I was like because I just like I don't know what the fuck's going on here and then she just like waited and then she just like continued the exam like nothing happened yeah didn't acknowledge it And I think, like, I was like, like, maybe she didn't realize she said it aloud or she, like, it just escaped and she was like, oh, shit, I didn't mean to say that. Or maybe she was legitimately testing the waters to see what happened. If I was in a way, yeah, yeah, maybe it works for her. If I was in your spot, come here, baby. I can't believe you didn't do it.

So you would become Elvis. Yeah, basically. And then pull her close. Can you read that number? You hear that letter on the chart? Oh. No, I, I just like, what am I going to do? What are you talking about?

That's so weird. You're telling me she was pretty, too. I mean, whatever, she was all right. I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do it. There's some weird fucking power dynamic. You're giving me ASMR if you catch my drift. What was your thought process at the time?

I mean, it's just like, it's so unexpected. For sure. That I'm just like, what just happened? I don't know what, like, I don't know what this, I don't know, it didn't even know to act, that's why I just froze, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, yeah, in hindsight, you maybe are like, but I was just like, still, like, well, like, oh, no, I'm going to do anything.

Yeah, that's weird. It's insane. It's a dream. You blew a dream. This babe eye doctor asked you to kiss her, you just, I'm good, thank you, and you left. I made the right move. I'm not replaying that, the sliding doors moment of my life with that. I'm glad I made the decision

I think I'm glad I'm glad I made the decisions maybe I can't believe that you like the dentist more than you like the doctor that to me look I get going away with clean teeth but like the doctor you don't usually like the dentist can hurt

I think there's too much body shame associated with a doctor you know what I mean yeah I mean like I just like I don't know you're like like a fucking asshole doctor you go oh I get what you say like I'm self conscious about like you got like I don't know I'm out on display whereas like my just my chomper Like, I'm less worried about that.

And I also, like, I like how my teeth look after and I like how my mouth feels after the dentist. I don't know. It's funny. I question that. And I'm like, oh, yeah, doctors always tell me I'm overweight constantly. But still, like, you know, like you maybe get blood drawn, which is. I don't mind getting blood drawn. Really?

Yeah. No, that's fine. Of course. Yeah. That'll make me. Pass out. You like it, too? Yeah.

Oh, my God. Why? It gives me ASM. Oh, my God. Like jigsaw behind the decks over here. I have the opposite. I like you have to tell them I'm a fainting risk and they make me sit in the special chair that locks me in

so I can't fall over. Oh, wow. Because it freaks me out. That's the last time I went to the doctor, the guy taking my blood was like, are you doing okay? Because I was like not looking. And I was like to look in the lagger noses,

but I went, I was getting treatments on my head from my baldspot. It didn't work. But where they draw blood and they couldn't find my vein and it was 45 minutes and they fucked me up so bad. Oh, that's terrible. It was bad.

It was bad. And then this guy got it first try. He got it. It was great. I once went and I was like, just so you know, this makes me super queasy. I'm a bit of a fainter. So I'm not going to look. And the doctor was like, oh, me too. I won't look either. And I was like, that doesn't make me feel good. Stop. Don't make that joke. That's funny. By the way, if Amelia came in one week and she's like, I'm dating jigsaw, we wouldn't bat it. Yeah, sure, yeah. Holding his hand as he's on his strike. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Better Help therapists have helped over 5 million people worldwide on their mental health journeys. That's millions of stories, millions of journeys, and behind everyone is a therapist who showed up, listened, and helped someone take a step forward. Moments in therapy, like the right question, a safe space to cry or a small win, can change lives. World Mental Health Day is October 10th, and Better Help is a

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Do you have any favorite soups? Any go-to soups? Right now, my go-to soup is the Mendocino Farms. Wow. Lemon Chicken Farrow. You were talking this up, yes. It's the only soup at a chain that I've ever had where immediately after having it, I tried to figure out how it was made.

Right. I went on a deep dive to try and make it at home. Wow. Yeah. And got pretty close, got reasonably close with the recipe I found on Reddit. Wow,

okay. And it's, it's just great. It's a great suit. I don't think I've ever had it. And in fact, they usually don't dip into their soup. So I guess I got to try.

It's quite an endorsement. It's a star. Yeah. Wow. I like Mendo. They made a, Mendo made a change a few, like,

I mean, they expanded, which is a part of it, but they made, whenever they made their expansion, they used to have a chicken prosciutto salad. Yeah. And when they got rid of that,

I was kind of bummed. And I felt like their salads have never come back to, they're still great, but they used to do like a steak cob. And it feels like they now are like a little bit more manufactured. I don't disagree with you. It feels like it's stabilized in recent months, although they have recently changed the name of the, uh, Mama Chen's chicken salad to the simply the Chen's chicken salad. Okay, okay, all right. Which I don't know what that. I've always felt like the mama, she better, like as an Asian, this lady better.

exist. She better, she better be there. Yeah, right. I'm pretty sure, like, yeah, some guy named Tony. Right. And now dropping the mama makes me feel like that she never existed. Did she never exist? Yes, right. So I'm

I still eat it. It's great, but I am concerned about that aspect. Yeah. They also got rid of the save, the save Drake's farm salad. Yeah. It's going to be a completely excise. That was like, so just, yeah, it was a staple in a menu. That's in the chicken, chicken prosciutto salad was great. And also, I felt like when I was, when I first, I remember koalic worked at

And he brought me the first time. So this is years ago. Yeah. Close to 15 years ago at Palmerston. When we first moved into Palmerston, he worked down there. Mad Men was shooting down there. And he, I think he went and got Mendocino Farms when it was like the first location downtown.

And it was when I ate that salad, I was like, this is like the most farm to table salad I feel like I've ever had from like a place that is like a fast food restaurant or something. And now I don't feel that as like, like it feels like you used to get like a big thing. a fresh cheese in there and all these fresh vegetables

and it feels a little bit more like an assembly line or something. I don't disagree with it. There's been a little bit of sluggish in terms of quality. I still do like it. I still do like it. And I think other places have like gone through the insidification way worse

than Mendocino farms. But there's a little bit of that. But we're talking about a place today that a lot of people say really went through an incitification. And I'm just going to say I was really happy today. I think it's on it.

I think it's on having a back swing and obviously something that's a completely different scale than Mendocino Farms. It's much harder to sustain a chain the size of Panera, which we are talking about in the context of Crocdo Burnfest. So we're just talking about the soups of Panera. First reviewed in 2018 with Bill Oakley, re-reviewed during the pandemic with Monica Ruiz and Chris O'Malley. And then we revisited Panera earlier this year with Kimia Bepornia to try the LTO

croissant toast. But today we're talking soups, a full roster of eight soups. Now, Amelia was like how many of these soups we should get. And I think we just learned out. Let's just get them all, including the chili, which we'll talk about, although chili does not really qualify for our parameters. Chili doesn't count. We're not counting it. But we got it.

I was against this. I'm pissed. I'm going to run down all of them, and I can drill down details if we want to discuss any in particular depth. The autumn squash soup, the black bean soup, the broccoli cheddar soup, home style chicken noodle soup, cream of chicken and wild rice soup, creamy tomato soup, and bistro French onion soup, as well as the aforementioned hearty fireside, chili. Jason, going in, you are a fan of Panera. I am a fan of Panera. To me, if I'm on a road trip in particular and I see a Panera at the rest stop, I'm happy. I'm very, very, very happy.

That's the dream because Panera is, to me, is really consistent across locations. I completely agree. I do agree that when it was scaling, there was some slippage. But I think it's come back. And certainly the things that I like, which are certain of the soups and certain of the sandwiches, there's never really been a noticeable dip for me. I love it. Yeah. No, I'm definitely a Panera fan. I mean, like, we talked about this before the podcast,

but there are chains that I will only visit for content, and there are chains I will go to just to go to, and Panera is in the latter category. I will just go to a Panera. I went when we were in D.C. I want a couple of times. I don't get it too often, but I do. I, we've talked about how Panera itself is a place to break bad news.

For sure. Yeah. Before. But we're ending dough boys. Oh, yeah. We're getting good. Oh, yeah. We're getting no boys.

Not even in the Panera. Yeah. Wait, what did you say? You're not even going to do it in the Panera, just after you ate it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a great day where there was a snowstorm and I went to Panera. I think this during COVID and I got a bunch of the creamy tomato soup. I got like a big quart of it or something.

And then I shoveled that day and I came in, my mom and I had some grilled cheeses in that creamy tomato soup. And it will always stick with me. And that is my favorite soup there, that creamy tomato soup. but I think they do a great job. And I, look, I, today I, I've always liked Panera, but I think that I was really won over today in a lot of ways. We're talking soup this month. Yeah, Mitch, I don't know if we've clarified that.

We're talking soup this month. Soup's on. Soups on. We're talking soup. The creamy tomato soup, vine ripe and pear tomatoes, purited with fresh cream for a velety smooth flavor accented by hints of red pepper and oregano and topped with black pepper and sea salt croutons. I could have used...

Wait, what is it? This is the black... The creamy tomato soup. Oh, the creamy tomato. Jesus. I could have used, I feel like, a little bit more cream. Like, I thought the text... I thought it could, you know, I...

Classic creamsman. No, I just, I feel like I could, I couldn't mind it if that was a little bit more forward. But I thought this was a good soup. I liked it. I'm pretty satisfying. Certainly, as opposed to the tomato soup we got at Le Pan Cotidian. Stunk. Night and Dre.

Night and Day. A much better show. New Dr. Dreye out. it's a great soup in a sandwich soup yeah I can totally yeah 100% I mean and it just works very well with which bread is allowed we were allowed to dip bread

and we got a couple of bread bowls they were not cut in the center so we just ripped them apart which was the only downside of the whole meal I feel like but um the perfect dipping soups and like all of them

every single one of them I was having fun dipping in there but tomato is my was my favorite that's a real like when you finish the thought you're in and then you're out and it's like like uncut okay bread bowls like all right dude

that's just a bread You want me to talk about a hog? You want me to talk about a hog? Is the zombie in 28 years later cut or uncut? He's uncut. He's uncut. He's uncut. Yeah, yeah. It's drooping. Oh man. Yeah. I saw I saw Eddington last night. Wow. Speaking of a dude with a fucking pipe.

He would do you I think he would be an alpha Yeah, he would be. Yes, that was like, oh, yeah, there's no world I get to what he has there. I'm saying in no way. Even, like, hey, I'm going to chub up for this take. I want to maybe show my best stuff. It's still just like, or like even like, I bought a taffy pulling machine.

Yeah. I like Dittington. I like Gettington. I like getting quite a bit. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like all of his, I wish that like, I told you this before. Like, I don't even love all of his movies, but I always respect all of his. I I'm always kind of like, yeah, this is interesting.

and he was trying something and maybe Hereditary is still my favorite of the bunch but in Eddington too there's like it is that sort of thing where I was like

I'm having fun watching what the story is and then it goes crazy and I was like I would have loved to see the that version of it but I still really enjoyed it. I didn't mind that it goes

that went crazy and I like the ending quite a bit but yeah I like that it takes a big swing yeah same yeah and the big swing in this one is the Waukeens

Wifflebat of a hog hello ha ha Phoenix is rising Okay, so they had an autumn squash soup Rich blend of better nut squash and pumpkin simmered in vegetable broth with select ingredients is a whole bunch of them I just personally don't, I like squash, I don't love a squash soup

I'm with you, this is maybe a little too sweet for me There's some honey in it and some apple juice It's like a little too sugary, yeah I don't like a sweet soup either This was at the bottom of the list Yeah, me too This was at the bottom of my list too And I think I said this to you wise, but I was like, this is a well-made soup that I just, this is not my favorite soup.

Yeah. Like eating it, I was like, this is well done. If you like this type of soup, I can see you loving this, but it's just not for all three of us. All for all three of us, it wasn't. I'd make a suggestion, in fact, to Panera. Think about a room temperature summer soup. Okay. I like that.

That's one. Not heated with this exact same ingredients and set up, but cool, a cool soup. Nice cool. soup. Yeah. That's fun. I like that. I think I would like that too more.

Yeah. Wow. It's a good pitch. The black bean soup. Black bean soup I enjoyed. Black beans, this is a fan favorite that's... Oh, sorry, Wex.

No, that's it. This is a fan favorite that's come back. Yeah. And I said to you that this is like, reminds me of going to a Mexican restaurant and getting a side of like beans. And that kind of was what it was like to me. It was very much like a side of black beans.

I don't know. I mean, a little bit more like a soup, obviously. I think there's a little more to it than that. I think the texture. a little bit different. I don't know. I, I, I, I enjoyed this. Look, I also like the, you know, side of black beans at a Mexican restaurant. But I, same. But I, I don't know. I think the soup worked for me. I also just like, it was hyped up. Again, just being conscious of what I'm putting in my body. If I'm getting some dietary fiber, I'm usually pretty happy. And I know

I'm getting some with a black bean soup and I'm getting the hearty amount. You get a big smile on your face after every spoonful. Speaking of cream, it felt as if to me that there was a hint of cream in that, in that, in that black bean soup. I will also say, if we're disqualifying the chili, on what basis are we qualifying the black bean soup? Jason, this is a great question. I think just the fact that it's called itself soup, it wins. It gets in. But you, I mean, like, consistency, yes, you are not wrong. It's, it is very, it's very thick. It's, it's, it's, it's beans, basically. It was called a hearty, fireside chili soup, would it qualify? That's, I, I think it would. I think it would.

Yeah. I think it's just labeling it soup. I think just that that bit of taxonomy would put it in the... Chili itself, though, doesn't... Does not come. Chili does not. Chili is not a soup as per our standards. But I did like that chili.

I thought it was pretty good. Same. You know. I could have used a little bit more spice and a bit of a heat seeker. The chili was pretty subtle. The chili was okay. The chili was okay. It was all right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good, though. Yeah. The broccoli cheddar soup. Okay. I love a broccoli cheddar soup. I loved it. And I think this is a good soup.

And honestly, I will get this from Panera sometimes. Loved it. Yeah. This is, for me, the ultimate bread dipping soup. Wow. Yeah. The ultimate bread dipping soup. Yeah.

Is there a better candidate? I don't know. I loved it. I love dipping my bread in there. I do love dipping my bread in tomato soup, but that this was, I mean, we were talking about this, too, that this one almost shouldn't count as a soup. It is very much just cheese. Yes.

It's a side of queso, basically. but it's, sure. It's fantastic. I loved it. It was like you're trying to be the arbiter of what is and isn't soup here. What the hell? What was?

It's crocdo. Broccoli cheddar soup. Broccoli cheddar soup isn't soup? What are we talking about? It is. I'm just saying that this, it's almost a cheat. I mean,

it's, I love it, but I'm just saying it's close to a cheese. Because it's good, it's a cheat? Why it makes it a cheat? Just because it has cheese in it? Yeah, kind of.

I think you're going to have to have a soup. that has cheese in it. If someone brought you a bowl of broccoli cheddar soup and then a bowl of tortilla chips, would you be like, what the fuck? Or would you be into it? All right, Emma, I hate to do this in front of your sister, but shut the fuck up.

Is it, is it, you need like one more ingredient in there? Yeah, what's the issue? I think it is a soup, okay, everyone? All right. I think it's a soup. Story is changing by the minute, but sure. It's a soup. I'm just saying it's almost a cheat that it's that.

Like, cheese soup seems like it's cheap to me. I will say that it's like a hamburger soup. Even as, unlike Koso, even as it cools, it doesn't thicken noticeably. It remains soupy. That's true. And it is, and it is, it's very much a soup. There's some stock in there, I'm sure. I like your pitch of hamburger soup.

Hamburger cheeseburger soup would be great. Oh, interesting. Okay. Interesting. How would you do it? I mean, I guess probably like the broccoli cheddar soup. The broccoli cheddar with little like, you know, ground beef. ground beef.

Wow, that sounds pretty good. It does sound pretty good. It does sound good. Bread bowl? Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah. Did you put like little tomato pieces in there or something? You could do that as well.

Yeah. Maybe you could do bacon, too. Look, we'll trademark this and talk about it after the podcast. But look, the cheeseburger soup is the dough boys as stiller sodas. Broccoli cheddar soup was near my top. Same. Oh, the broccoli cheddar soup, broccoli cheddar soup, both up there. Really good.

Okay, we had two chicken soups with a homestile chicken noodle soup. And we also had the cream of chicken and wild rice soup. I would generally prefer chicken noodle soup, but in terms of execution, I prefer the chicken and wild rice soup. Yes. Which, Mitch, you mistook for like a chicken and dumpling soup. Yes. Because it was pretty, it's a thick boy. It's another thick boy.

Yeah. I really liked the chicken and wild rice soup. I thought it was a very gravy base. Some may even say it's a little bit of a cheat of a soup again, but I'm not going to get, I'm not going to go there. I'm going to blow my stack. It is kind of more of a stew. It is more of a stew. Yeah, that's fair.

It is more of a stew. I'm more of a stew, too. Twist of metal. Watch it now on Peacott, season two. Mitch, is your, wait, is your episode of X-ray vision out? It's out. It's out, awesome, awesome. People should check out Mitch and talking Twisted Metal

over on the X-ray Vision podcast. You had a blast. Wherever you get your podcast. Yes, we had a great time. And thank you for having me. I am, chicken noodle soup is kind of boring to me. I don't know if you feel the same way. But this was a good chicken noodle soup.

I'm sorry, I liked it. It was good. Yeah. They did a good job. There was no, there was no soup today. I'm like, le pan, uh, cotan, what is it? Cotidian. La Pond Cotidion.

Yeah. Where I, there was no good soup at Lepan, uh, Catidian. That's, I said it weirdly. The pan Cotidian But today there was no soup That I was like This is bad

Like there was none that I was like This is outright But the chicken noodle soup Which I think is more boring Was great If I was sick And someone gave me a bowl of that soup I'd be very happy

I just think that chicken noodle soup Can just be a little bit more boring I don't know how you feel But well seasoned I thought it was great And the other one was like A delight I thought it was like you know

It was a lot Gravy and everything like that It was fantastic. When you're looking for that heat, what would you add to a soup that you're like, I'm a heat seeker, I need something? I mean, this has some green chili peppers in it. So, you know, it's doing something.

But yeah, I mean, if like I'm getting the soup, like you're saying I'm making the soup? No, I'm saying, you bought a soup from somewhere and you're like, you know what? It needs a little bit of that heat. I'm just going to punch this up. I mean, I'll probably whatever hot. I'll probably, like, you know,

I'll douse in some crystal hot sauce or something like that. you know, just give it a little bit more of a kick. But it also depends on what we're working with. But I feel like Crystal's kind of a good catch-all sauce. You know, I do like the, you know, I've got to usually keep a Chalula at home. Sure. I do like the jalapeno Tabasco sauce specifically. I think that's got a really nice character to it.

So probably for something like this, I might go with a jalapeno tabasco sauce. But it really just depends. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, also like just some red bell peppers sometimes. Red bell pepper. The, sorry, crushed red pepper is what I meant to say.

Yeah, I'll get the job done. Yeah. Yeah. It just depends. Yeah, I don't know if, I don't know if any of these soups needed that plus up today, you know? No, I don't think so. Yeah. I mean, again, I could use just a little bit more heat and like chili specifically,

but yeah, it's overall fun. Sure, yeah. I didn't feel like you needed to adjust the seasoning, whereas I felt like every soup from La Panco-Dadian did not have enough seasoning. I feel like those are all under-salted. And, yeah, but no, I think these are all pretty satisfying. For me, the loser was, Jason, what I think you all, was also the loser for you, the bistro French onion soup.

I just didn't think it had very much to it. I thought it was kind of inert. I thought this was just like a, and I think especially it just coming in a cup to go. You know, like we're not really getting the cheese, which for me is such a big part of the French onion soup. We're really just getting some caramelized onions in this kind of, you know, vinegory broth. Yeah, it's just not a soup for me generally. Right. No matter what the chain or particular restaurant is.

So, you know, this one was fine. It didn't taste as if it's been sitting around, which I think can be a problem with the French onion soup sometimes. But it's just not a soup for me. It's not for me. The floor is low on a French onion soup. I do like a French onion soup. And Mitch, I think you do as well.

I do. And you know what? I like this one too. You like this one. Yeah, yeah. In fact, I have, I stacked four of them to take home. And you want to know the ones that I'm taking? Yeah.

Number one is tomato. soup. Okay. Two is broccoli cheddar. Love it. Soup. Mm-hmm. Three is chicken and wild rice soup. Yeah. Yeah. And French onion soup is the fourth. Okay. Wow. All right. Okay. Yeah.

What are your plans for those later? We'll see. Pour them all in a big tub. Yeah. The day is, we like a French onion soup over there? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I love it. Especially the Panera one. You, especially the Panera one.

Mm-hmm. I have not have a Panera one. But you didn't get one for yourself. No, I ate before I got here. Okay. We've really lost the dais on food during soup month. More than anything, I'm just shocked by the lack of willingness to take advantage of a free meal. That is shocking. Yeah, for me, like, even like I, you know, because like, whatever, it's our podcast.

So, like, you know, I'm still like any situation where I was like, I can get a free meal. I'm like, I'm fucking going for it. To this dead. Or you're a little piggy. Yeah, I guess you're right, Mitch. I'm a little piggy. A fat fuck, and I like to eat for free. You writers, you're so spoiled in your writer's rooms.

I mean, this is the thing. When you get that lunch order in, if it's, I've been a writer's rooms where you're going out of pocket, but you get that, you get that good contract where they're covering lunch. I'm like, oh, my God, what a dream. Us actors get slopped by comparison. No, come, you're fucking catering. What are you talking about?

You're like a constant table full of snacks. Stop it. No one likes craft service. No one likes that. I actually genuinely don't eat craft service Because I never like want to go to the bathroom during the day So I'm not like I'm not snacking But I will say that

You're more a fan of Robert Kraft being service What he does in his spare time That's his money You can spend it however he wants Is it, do we cover every soup? I think that's all the soups I mean how would do any thoughts on the bread I think it was like

It was solid Bread was solid It was solid, he's fine I think I got good bread. I like, if it's not old, they're, they're, whatever, French rolls are nice. Yeah. An octet of soups, but how does this rank overall? We're going to, Jason, you know the podcast before, but just a refresher, we'll each go around, give a, give a closing argument and give this a score from zero to five forks.

However, because it is Crocdoburn fast, I had to read it again, it is, we are doing this not out of forks, but rather out of soup forks. Soup forks. So, yeah. We didn't we do gator peens the other day? Nangle had us do gator peens. So I guess actually we could mix it up for each, for each episode. Do you have peens? I don't know this.

That's a great question. They sure do. You do? Yeah. Okay. Oh, right, yes. Mitch, they do. They do.

We know. We've been, we've been tricked before. Enough said. We could, we could, we could do anything we want. We could do anything we want. I mean, we got the, we have. We have the uncut bread bowl. We could always go to the set of 0 to 5 uncut bread bowls.

What else we got? We got the, you know, we got the, like, is it actually a soup or not? We could 0 to 5, you know, disputed soups. I'm just going to say it out there. Joaquin Phoenix's hog. Yeah, let's 0 to 5 walking Phoenix hogs, yeah. Jason, your thoughts. That would touch the bottom of the soup ball if you catch my drafts.

Your thoughts, your fork or hog score. My Joaquin Phoenix hog scored. Now this is for the totality of the soups. I'm going to give it, you know what, even though there are some that are not necessarily my favorites here, I'm going to get a four and a half hogs out of five. Wow. Yeah, because I think it's just so consistent. And I like 85% of the soups on this roster. And I would eat them anytime.

And I'd be happy to eat any of them. So I just think, based on that alone, four and a half hogs. Wow. Very good score. That's a great score. Why, because I think it's you who called me a soupless bitch once. Yeah. Or did I call you a soupless bitch?

I think you called me a soupless bitch. That feels more like a Mitch move. I can't even tell, honestly. This is early doughboys, this is very early. The phrase, soupless bitch has popped into my head like a hundred times in the past like week or so and I couldn't remember if it was from this or not. So thank you for confirming. It's from our podcast. It's your fault. It's in my head.

At one point I didn't have a soup and I think you said yeah, you are a soupless bitch. I think that's what happened. I thought you said it to me. Maybe I did. Who knows? I'm sure we could I'm sure it's documented somewhere. I'm sure we can find out. Listener to let us know. But I've never felt sorry or for

soupless bitches than I did tonight because we had such a bounty of soups. Yeah. And and I thought all of them were good. I didn't think that there was a single bad one. There's ones that I liked less than others, but they were really, really good.

And if we're doing this, look, is the restaurant doing what they do best? This is croc dough burnthoest. And I can't go below five. Five. Five. Five,

five, Joaquin Phoenix hogs. Wow. I'm talking 45 inches total. Holy shit. Five. It's a round or? long. Oh, God,

long, 45 inches long. Nine times five. I was just thinking around nine inches. But yeah, five. Five, five. I'm going full five. That is wild. Okay. I don't know if... That's crazy? I don't... No, I don't, I just, I'm

just surprised. I don't know if I can go that high. I don't know if I can go all the way to five. But I will say, I was very impressed by this outing and in terms of like, hey, what is this chain trying to do? If it's trying to sell us on soup, stuff. A lot of soup for idols, a lot to choose from. They were almost all hitting for me. The ones that were really hitting, I really genuinely enjoyed. And like I mentioned, I'll get that

broccoli cheddar soup on my own. I do like the black bean soup quite a bit. I think these are, and yeah, I mean, the cream and tomato soup, you know, it's not my favorite, but I think that's a really good execution of it. Even the ones that didn't work, I thought they were like, you know, they were giving it a good show. I think this is a great soup chain. Is this our top soup chain. I don't know. Like in terms of like just here's an array of classic soups. Here's an array of American comfort soups. In terms of presenting that, is this number one? It's certainly in terms of its scale and in terms of its omnipresence. I think that absolutely is something that's in its favor. But I was really impressed by this outing of Panera. And I'm going to go

for Joaquin Phoenix Hogs, which means welcome to the Golden Plate Club, or I guess the Golden Bowl Club. here for crocdough burn fast. What an outing by Panera. That was really quite something. I love it. Well, deserve. Hey, it's time for a segment.

I've got a food-related exam. Mitch and Jason must compete for superiority. It's Slop Quiz NBA Food Edition. Wow. All of these questions are related to the National Basketball Association and food. All right, first up, these start off pretty easy. A lot of these were compiled by Amelia Marino. This Gatorade campaign featuring Michael George,

was called Be Like What? Mitch. I wouldn't say be like Mitch. Yes. That would be, is it Be Like Mitch? No, it's Be Like Mike. It was Be Like Mike. Yes.

We'll call that a draw. We'll have that be a tutorial question. Next up, which two NBA legends faced off in McDonald's, nothing but net commercial? Michael Jordan and Larry Byrd. It was Jordan and Byrd. Mitch gets a point. As I take score. here. Next up. Okay, meal is keeping

a score. Next up, as a rookie, NBA star Janice Anta Dacompo excitedly tweeted about trying which food. Oh. Oh, yeah. I have options if we want options. A, Chick-fil-A, B, barbecue,

C, cheese curds, D, a smoothie. Jason, it's going to be a smoothie. It was. The tweet was, first time I taste a smoothie, 101. Man, God bless America. really, really wholesome. That's very funny.

Next up, in a 2020, Jason gets a point. In the 2021 Super Bowl commercial title called Happy, Anthony Davis and Jimmy Butler appeared in an ad for which beer brand? A, Coors Light, B, Bud Light, C, Mickelove Ultra,

D. Heineken. Jason, I believe it's Mickelope Ultra. Jason gets another point. Shit, I'm getting stomped. It's 2.1. You're fine. You're fine.

You're okay. It's a one point margin. I'm stomped. In 2021, Davis partnered with Ruffles to launch his own chip flavor. What was that flavor? Oh, fuck. I forget. A, lime and jalapeno, B, smokehouse style

barbecue, C, chili cheese, D, cheddar and sour cream. Mitch. Cheddar and sour cream. Oh, no. I meant A. Fuck. It's the A. It's the Lyme one. Can we give you a point? I'll give it to him. Give it to him. Okay. Mitch gets the point.

Cheddar and sour cream is Tatum, right? Or yes, right? Hold that thought. In that same year, this NBA star joined Davis in his partnership with Ruffles

with his own flaming hot barbecue flavor. Well, Mitch. I'm going to give it to... What are the choices again? A, LeBron James, B, Luca Donchitz, C. Janice, D. Jason Tatum.

It's Jason Tatum. It was Jason Tatum. I can't just steal that point. Annoyingly, that was my favorite of those flavors. I wanted to like the lime and jalapeno more, just that the lime was a little sciencey. The flame and hot barbecue was delightful.

I really, really like that one. So who gets that point? I guess Jason did. Jason 100% get it. I was trying to be, I couldn't steal a second point. Next up, in a 2018 video, which former league MVP was seen sneaking snacks on the bench during a game?

A, Russell Westbrook, B, Kevin Durant, C, James Harden, D, LeBron James. Jason, Russell Westbro It was Russ Yeah, I didn't know this On the Thunder And I believe he's eating a sandwich But he just like

I believe he was eating a sandwich Yeah, it's a fun video Next up What's the score really? It's Mitch two, Jason four Okay, great Which players signed a five-year deal With Mountain Dew as a rookie in 2019

A, John Morant B, Zion Williamson C R.J. Barrett And D. Tyler Harrow Wait, what? Which players signed a five year deal with Mountain Dew as a rookie in 2019. A, John Morant, B, Zion Williamson, C. R.J. Barrett, D. Tyler Arrow. Do you know? Yeah. Do you really? Yeah. You can just

Jason. Jason. It's John Morant. It's not John Moran. Oh, Zion Williams and Mitch. Yes. Williamson. It is Zion, who I'm guessing did not ask for a spit bucket between takes. Hey, he slimmed down. He slimmed down. God bless him. He slimmed down. But yes. Next up, during multiple March madness campaigns, which fast food chain ran spots with Reggie Millie. moving in for the tournament. A, Wendy's, B, Burger King, C, Tuck. Wendy's.

It was Wendy's. Mitch gets the point. What are we, what are you at now? It's tied. It's tied up, okay. We have three more. Sorry, Jimmy. Uh-oh.

Oh, Jimmy, what happened? I clapped excitedly and she was done. She's stretching. She's good. Jimmy hopped off the couch and gave a little stretch and it was a very good. Maybe that clap she'll come back. Nope.

Oh, yeah, it worked. She might have just got hot. Next up, in an awkward 20, 12 interview in which Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy confirmed Star Dwight Howard wanted him fired before Dwight obliviously interrupted. Which beverage was Coach Van Gundy

drinking? Whoa. A coffee, B, Gatorade, C, Diet Coke, D. Sparkle Water. Diet Coke. It was Diet Coke. Jason gets the point. Two more. All the good questions were written by Wigs, by the way. Your questions are great. No, yours are better. No, no, no. Your questions are great. I just know some deeper cuts. Was yours B-like blank?

Yes. Which University of Kentucky legend turned NBA player went on to own dozens of Outback Steakhouse and Papa John's franchises? A. John Wall, B. Tashon Prince. C. Jamal Mashburn, D. Rex Chapman. Jason. Monster Mash.

It is the Monster Mash. Jamal Mashburn. Jason gets the point. I believe we'll win, but we'll do this last one. Yeah, but this last one's work too, weird. This last... It's... What's that?

What's the score? It's four to five, Jason. It's four to five. Okay, so it's anyone's game. Oh. In 2018, I don't think that's right, but it's nice. Wait, did I miss one? No, no, no, it's fine.

Who cares? Just quiet. Okay. Final question. In 2018, as a Cleveland Cavalier, J.R. Smith was suspended for throwing which food at an assistant coach. Oh. A, spaghetti, B, a sandwich.

C, a protein bar. D. Soup. Mitch, I'm just going to say a spaghetti because it's fun. It's not spaghetti. Jason, it's soup. It was. chicken tortilla soup. Susan takes it.

Of course. Of course. Jason, get the hell out of here. Go to the Dodgers game. Jason Concepcion. Thank you so much for joining us. You've got to go to the Dodger game.

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the first time maybe ever that news is broken to me in the Do Boys Reddit. Wow. Are there other people in the Do Boys Reddit who have also been like, you know, is that partly the way the discussion comes from

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it's true i'm glad that i did i'm not always in there but i was i looked i looked i was i don't know we were we were waiting to start up again and then i i i looked at my phone and i what happened with your bow socks they lost that's also why i'm just trying to look at anything else So I was distracting myself. I could look at Gemmy. It's pretty cute. Scratch in her ear. Scratch in her ear.

There was a very cute video of her seeing Haley. Yeah. When you first walked into the house, it was great. We'll post it. What's that? Yeah, you should post it. It's a great video. I regularly say, don't know what the fuck I did with my time

before I got Gemmy because I spend so much of it just staring at her. Animals are good. Animals are good like that, yeah. Man, she is really scratching at something. What was going on? ear, girlie? I'm going to go on the face a little bit too.

You need some help. I'm going to get in your ear too much. Oh, now we're going for the butthole. Okay, okay. Gemini. I got you. You want me to clean that thing out for you? Jesus Christ.

Just like a restaurant about your feedback. Oh, hold on. Wait, before you get to that. Yeah. Hi, Mitch and Weiger. I was, speaking of Jimmy, I was recently introduced to your podcast

by my boyfriend. His name is Rich, and he is a longtime listener and Patreon subscriber. Wow. He says to tell you he is Indeed, the schlubby one. Me being me, I immediately started asking questions about Jemmy, Wally, Nirmah. I spent many years in animal welfare, and now I handle community engagement and philanthropy for

Pets Global, a SoCal-based pet food company. I hope you don't mind, but I made a care package for your funny gang. I made a, sorry, not funny gang. I made a care package for your furry gang. Yeah, it specifies not funny gang. Yeah, yeah. You guys are the not funny gang, but for your furry gang, I often feel bad that Jemmy doesn't get to join in on the feast, so I wanted to give her something fun to snack on.

I also have two tuxitos of my own, so I would never want to leave Wally and her out. If your crew would ever be interested in having their own mini episode trying different foods and treats, I would love to help facilitate that. We've got a ton of options in our signature and, sorry, Zignature and Fussy Cat Lines, and we're pretty local to headgum. But either way, I hope they enjoy these goodies, sincerely, one of your newest listeners and a bit of a heat seeker, Ellie. Wow, thanks, Ellie. P.S. we will also be sending a donation to Santador

in your name and honor of their help with Sonny. Hey, how about that? That's very kind. That's so nice. Sonny got adopted. Sonny got adopted. Sonny got adopted. Sunny got a really sweet family.

Yes, we love Sonny. We're happy that Sunny is doing well. This was the cat that was discovered at HeadGum that you were fostering for a bit. Yes. Yeah. Wow. Amelia saved Sunny's life.

So did you. Get out of here. I mean, not as much. You did. But my cat's- Guys, I don't deserve that much credit. You need you shit, motherfucker. You also helped in some ways.

You kept me calm. Yeah. We kept you from killing the CEO of Headdome, maybe. Probably should have. We're going to kill everybody here. It was funny reading people being, first of all, whatever. People respond, and I know that I just said that I don't look at the Reddit too much, but people were like, you're, he was.

If you only got the CEO, I'm like, shut up, you dorks. It was a fine. Everything was fine. And I was trying to save the cat. And we were right. We were in the right. I want to say to Ellie, thank you. My Wally and Norma loved fussy cat.

This is the truth. And I'm going to buy a more fussy cat. Hell yeah. And this was the Zig. Zing. Yeah, yeah. Gemmy, they send a bunch of treats for Gemmy too. We have not tried all of them yet, but the ones that we have tried.

I can't remember which ones we've tried so far, but she loved them. Perfect. Yeah. Good girl. Anyway, I want to give a shout out. Nice little care package. What a lovely gesture. I want to give a shout out to I have not been fucking with this, but I think

I'm gonna, yum, yum, give me some. I got to say for the spin drift island punch. Really? Yeah. Is there some of the fridge? Yeah, there's some in the fridge, I think. Okay, Mitch is standing up and exiting the studio. Bring a second one. I want to try it. All right, I'll come back. I'm going to go retrieve some. I'll be interested to see what the reaction is because you know, it is an approximation of a punch

at being an unsweetened sort of tonic. It matches your fit well. I've been told that. I've got the purple, for audio listeners, I've got this purple shirt in these purple shoes, and it's kind of a purple can color. It's a slightly different hue, but it's close enough for college rule, as I say.

This is a, it has a guava puree and a passionate fruit juice. I'm passionate fruit juice. Just passion fruit juice. Lose be it. Orange juice is the blend. So guava, Passion fruit and orange.

13 calories worth. And yeah, I think this is quite a flavorful. Let's see if this is a yum, yum, give me some. Let's crack some cans and let's hear it. Let's hear the verdict. Wow, bonus, drank or stack.

Did you hear me say yum, yum, give me some? Yes. Okay. You said it out loud. Did you think you said it in your head? I don't know if you exited the room already. I was like, they were kind of amazing a bit of kismid if you said it independent.

I would never say that shit if not for you. It's good, right? Island Punch, here I go. Yeah. A drink from Wags. What do you think, Swoon, man? Yum, yum. Give me none.

You didn't like it? No, I do like it. It's good. Yeah, give me a drink. It is, it's a, um... It's frutier than I would expect. It is very fruity. Strong, the passion fruit and guava are strong.

It's good. I like it. Like, uh, I think that a lot of the times I want more taste out of a, out of a spin drift. And this is giving me a lot of, a lot of, it's given a lot of, it's given a lot of flavor. How's the day it's feeling back there? I like it. I like it. Yeah. Amelia, you're not going to sample any?

I'm going to sample something after the record. Got it. What hell was that mean? I should have let her try it first. She doesn't like to share sips. Oh, you know, I get sick. I understand. It's fine. Not that anybody's sick here. No. Sicking the head.

She's. Yeah, we're all pretty sick here, Amelia. You got to be a little sick to work for the dough boys. Hold on a second. I know what this is. Because I had food poisoning, and she was like, and you were very afraid, it's because your big birthday. Because my birthday is on Friday. I don't want to be sick for my party.

Oh, that's fair. That's what it is. I knew it. You're going to be fine. Well. And you know what? You should probably take a sip of the drink. No.

Parties on Friday. Yeah. I want to call the cops on it. Blacks calls the cops on a bar? It's in a bar. They show up, like, he called ice. What the fuck is wrong with him? Oh, boy.

Horrible world. Anyways, there is an email. That's right. Just like a restaurant of our feedback, let's open to the feedback. Today's email is from Chris H.S. Chris writes, It was my birthday this past week

and at the suggestion of my supermodel wife. I signed up for the rewards program of every single chain restaurant in my area just to get a free birthday treat. I ended up with at least 17 different gifts across the fast food spectrum. This led me to wonder if you all owned your own chain, what would the birthday giveaway be and why?

P.S. eating 17 different chain restaurant items in six days fucking sucks. How in the fuck have you kept this up for 10 years? Welcome to our world. we're sick in the head. Yeah, the answer is clinical depression. Yeah. We're not doing well.

Yeah. What do you do? This is a good question. I mean, I mean, like... It's a question because Amelia and I both have a birthday this week. That's right. You're both, it's birthday season for both of y'all. Libra season. Yeah.

Libra season. Yeah. What is the essence of a Libra? We're really fair and balanced. Is that true? Yeah. I kind of get it Oh, you got an issue with that?

I kind of get a King Solomon vibe for Mitch Bear in balance like Fox News The scale is our Is our little thing Yeah It's a scale of justice That's fun I'm a Virgo

Yes There's a lot of Mike's also a Virgo And my mom, our mom is a Virgo Wow I got a lot of Virgo's around me How about that Drop the O at an I in I love Libra season

I'm very lucky that I am You're not October officially, right? You're September 29th Okay, very close You're in your, that's that is September great month too October is one of my favorite months October is my favorite month It's a great month

Things cooled down, you got Halloween It's the spookyest of months Spookyest month I say that October is the Friday of the month If you had to put it into the months into week days of the week. October is the Friday of months. It says it means November is the Saturday and December's the Sunday. That's not necessarily the truth.

But October is the Friday. And yeah, I think November is kind of a Saturday. You're having fun. October feels like a half day and before a long weekend kind of. Like November feels like Friday to me. Although then Thanksgiving's in November, so it kind of starts Saturday. Yeah. Yeah.

Hmm. I mean, also like, look. July, June, June is also a Friday of, if you had to put it. June is kind of a Friday. June is a Friday. Wait, let's figure this out. January is a Monday, right? Well, look, there is 12, there's 12 months, there's seven days.

This could be a double. This could be a double. Should we not do it? January is a Monday. January is 100% a Monday. And I think February is also Monday. But you know what's funny is that, is that January 1st is a Sunday. And then as soon as you go back, it is...

It's a Monday. Yeah, you're just like, yeah, you're done. Like, it's like, it's like the Sunday of December bleeds into January 1st. December is back into Monday. By the way, you nailed it. December is Sunday. December is Sunday. I think so, yeah.

And November, I think could be Saturday. It could be Saturday. Because Thanksgiving starts, the holidays, that starts. November is a Thursday. You think, November? Because of Thanksgiving? Yeah. So, Thursday's not a bad day.

Yeah, I like Thursdays are good. It's like a thirsty Thursday. You're like going out after work kind of Thursday. I was going to say today's Thursday, but then I was wrong. it's Wednesday, but sometimes a Wednesday feels like a Thursday. Hump Day, never my favorite. So August to me... It's my favorite. I'll tell you what.

This is, August is tough because August is August, is August a Sunday. Well, August is my birthday month, but I don't really celebrate my birthday, but August I have some different... I'm just saying I don't have the freshest perspective on August. They're the most objective POV there. Oh, so, because to me, September is a Thursday.

Because September feels like, September is like the start of fall. September's a Monday. Yeah, because it's school. School's back. This is the issue in August also has this issue too, is that, but also September's not bad in school. It doesn't really feel like, it doesn't feel like a Monday.

It feels, fuck, I hated going back to school. September's a Monday. And I think also, like, for parents, it's like, oh, my God, we get the kids back in the school. It's like, there's an element maybe, maybe they'll also for parents, there's an element of like, oh, thank God the kids are back in school. I don't have to, you know, look after them 24-7 anymore. All right, so we got to break down the week.

of the week anyways. Monday always just does suck. Monday sucks. Monday is red. Does anyone else agree? I do agree. All right, hold on a second. This is going insane. I agree, though. Monday is red. Tuesday is yellow. See, Wednesday's yellow. Wednesday's blue. Thursday's like a more orange yellow. All right. You two

are weirdos. You have colors. Is this like synesthesia where you like see, you like hear color? That's what I'm wondering. Monday red I can like, oh, I can track that. But the ones you start getting the other days of the week is like, oh, I don't have any sort of association with colors for any of them, but just like because Monday, because Liz Red seems like bad, like, an error message

or a stop sign or whatever. Thursday, Friday, blue or green, I guess, in my mind. That's what I'm talking about. You do? I do get what she's talking about. It is weird, but I get it in a way. October is black and purple. Okay, now I don't know what the fuck are. Well, that's like Halloween stuff. I can see that.

That's like Wednesday. No, it's not black and purple. Yeah, black and purple, black and orange. Well, you throw an orange in there too, but, but that feels like, also like kind of black and orangey. black and purple feels very like goth you know slash Adams family I think Grimmis. Grimmis. Yeah. This is October. Sacramento Kings.

Grimis is like, hold on a second. Hold on. Just shut up for a second. Chris H.S. Does this answer your question? When I was a boy. Yes. Monday was Sunday sucked. Tuesday sometimes could be half day Tuesdays but then in high school that you don't ever, you don't have those anymore. I think also like as a working person, like if you again, A lot of shift workers work on the weekends. A lot of businesses are open all the time.

A lot of people are working 24 for a second. I'm saying like if you have like a square job, Monday through Friday job, a classic nine to five, although that I've never worked a job is actually nine to five. They're all fucking nine to six. You know what I mean? It's like people forget about the hour you have for lunch. It's always longer than that. Anyway, the so-called nine to five, if you're working one of those jobs, Monday sucks,

Tuesday sucks, a little less because you can see the back end of the week. Thursday's starting to feel pretty good Friday is is heaven. Saturday's great. Sunday's good, but you also have Monday the next day. So you kind of like a kind of a little bit of anxiety. They used to do Sunday fun days back in Quincy. I mean, I know that's not an original thing. Yeah, sure. They used to like

all get drunk on Sundays. And I never out here, I never part, because I'd be working on Mondays. Yeah. You don't make Monday even worse. Yeah, you don't be turnover. Yeah. Yeah. But Sunday, having fun on Sunday can be fun. It is fun to have fun on Sunday. Yeah. It is it's fun to have fun on Sunday. I, I, it's funny because, like, I, in school, I did notice that Thursdays were like a little better, but they still annoyed me because it just wasn't Friday.

Yeah. But as an adult, you're like, Thursdays are good. Thursdays are good. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you're in the zone. That's great. That's the, that's the, that's the apex of the week. And Wednesdays, like, after we're done here, I'm done with this bullshit, I will feel pretty nice. But we, like, we used to record on Thursdays.

That had more of the feel of the, of a. Friday. Yeah. Anyway, our record schedule is unique and most people are not in the podcasting industry. So like I like say, if you have a normal job Monday through Friday or if you're in school, Monday through Friday, I think that that's like, you think of that as like the core, like this is the work part of the week. Monday's the worst.

Tuesday is the worst. And then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday get progressively better. Monday is still worse than Tuesday. Money is worse than Tuesday, for sure. But Tuesday is still bad. Is anyone who likes Tuesday, Monday more than Tuesday? Tuesday. I wonder if that exists. Anyways, should we try to...

Reverse Garfield? Yeah, who is the... Is there a black cat that has orange stripes? Yeah, that's reverse Garfield. That sounds like a Halloween cat. That does sound like a Halloween cat. Or purple stripes, Amelia. Yeah. I don't know if we can... I think we should do a double for the months. Okay, we'll figure it out.

And colors. And colors. Oh, figure out... And shapes. And shapes. Okay. Thursday. Oh, God. Color yellow and a triangle are all the same. Everyone knows what I'm wrong. Wow, I've never thought of the shapes, but I'm thinking about it. There's people fucking driving off the road.

The Patreon just lost all of its subscribers. Oh, you are out of your mind. Look, I have to record this right now. Listeners, tell me you know what I'm talking about. Look, I like the take. I like the take. Thursdays are triangles? And yet, and the color yellow.

I'm looking on the colors. The shapes is throwing me, but I kind of like it. A triangle is yellow, everyone can agree. The essence. Do you have, is that because? The next time I do drugs, I'm like, Amelia was right. Maybe because of signs.

Squares are red. Okay. They're just, every, everything has an aura. An aura to it. Wow. Squares are, are you, are you, are you a witch? I guess is what I'm trying to ask. Yeah, are you a witch?

You have to tell us if you're a witch. Yeah, if you're a witch, you're not going to say. Oh, fuck. You're just asking to be, like, thrown in a river or wait, or wait against a swan or something like that. We hired a witch, logs. Ah, we hired a witch. What are you going to do?

October. Um, wait, what was the question? Uh, yeah, if you, if you all owned your own chain, what would the birthday giveaway be and why? I have it, I have a pitch because I feel like a lot of these places give away like a drink or something like that or like you get a free scoop of ice cream cheesecake. I know I love is you get a free piece of cheesecake. And the, the nice thing about that is you don't have to redeem it on your birthday. You just have like a nice little window. You can go in and get your free slice of cheesecake, which is pretty gay.

That's what you want from the cheesecake factory. I think a lot of these places. it's like you know it's it's like some sort of like token item it's not like what you actually want and I think it would be great I'm the burger boy to have a place to be like you get a fucking burger wow get your birthday burger and you know what not only that it's a special burger this is a burger you can only get on your birthday this is the birthday burger this is not a thing that's on menu this is huge a bespoke uh it's your burger day you come in for you're coming for your burg day.

Cheese frosting, quote unquote. It's got cheese frosting. It's got a little candle in it. It is the birthday burg and you're going to be phenomenal. Yeah, yeah. I think people would love it. And I think also like that's the other thing. You're getting someone to come in for their birthday.

Some people are going to come in solo, sure, and they're just going to get the burger. That's fine. But some people are going to go in and they're going to like, hey, I'm going to also get some fries or maybe I'm going to come with my family and they're going to order off the menu and all of a sudden you're drumming up some new business. And you're building that goodwill. that's going to last throughout the year. I love it, Wags.

Yeah. And as the Spoon Man, I got to have a place that gives you a Spoon, a birthday spoon. Oh, that's really good. A little, a actual metal birthday spoon. Wow. And when you're in the restaurant, you can use it to scoop up anything you want. That's really fun. Yeah, including other people's meals.

It's his birthday. All right. I think that for me, one thing I would bring back is singing. It would be fun to have some singing. So fun. it isn't it come on no I'm with you you don't you don't

song to my birthday it makes me crinch like it makes me so uncomfortable I don't know why but here's the thing he doesn't he I'm sure he doesn't like it either but you like to witness and happen I do like to see it that's true I do like watching other people get

but is it they did like a birthday birthday birthday whatever yeah it is your day or whatever who gives a shit what the song is before happy birthday to you is back of the public domain they would all have their own birthday song yeah just do a little so I would love some sort of birthday song I think that would be fun to sing it to him.

Is it a Texas Roadhouse that used to wheel out a saddle and you had to sit on it? Yeah, that's what I thought. We have not reviewed Texas Roadhouse on the podcast. We got to decide if that's something we're going to do at some point. And here's what you get from, this is what you get. And it doesn't matter what the chain is. Warm Brownie Sunday. That's what you get.

Yeah, warm brownie Sunday is always a good go-to. And you know what? You don't see enough of a warm brownie Sunday. What the hell is going on? I mean, I feel like it's like one of those like staple, you know, chain restaurant menu. items in a lot of places are trying to try something a little bit different. You know, they're getting away from the classics, but classics are a classic for the reason. Warm brownie, scoop of vanilla. Yeah. Hot fudge. A lot of fun. Whip cream, maybe. No one's complaining.

I think, hey, maybe you could choose between the two. You know, speaking of, speaking of custom spoons, of special spoons, my mom, like, she was like going through stuff and she found this old spoon she sent me. Um, I guess there was a promotion for Cheerio's cereal when I was a kid where you wrote in, and I don't know if it was for like reading books or something that it felt like it was like a school related thing but for whatever reason Cheerios sent this spoon back and it's a custom spoon

that on the handle says Nicholas did it pretty cool right on top of mission dead body I was gonna say when fucking what's his name fucking knives out

but what's it what the fuck? Ryan Johnson No, no, what is the detective's name? Oh, well, Benoit Blonde. Yeah, that's going to be the big clue at the end of your fucking movie. It says, this is just done. Wake up, Dead Man in theaters this year, Wags. Can't wait.

I thought you were going to tell the story about, you said this on the pod, that there was a Spoon Man. Oh, yeah, no, I said this on last week's episode. But yeah, there was a guy Gary. There was a kid Gary at my school who was like, he had a son. There's a whole thing he carried a spoon around. There was a spoon man before me. Yeah. You're going to find the Mitch did it spoon on top of that guy if I ever find him.

Wags, a good episode. We're done for the day. We're over hump day. We sure are. And you know, we're over the hump for the, we're in the Friday of the week of the year. When you think about it. We are in the Friday of the week of the year. We are.

Here we are in October. And the, you know, we're wrapping up and. Well, we're not quite wrapping up. I mean, this is. I mean, we're getting close to Dunville the year. I guess you're right. I guess we're getting close to the end of. We're coming up on the back end.

We're now over the hump with the five mainline episodes we have here in October here for Croctober and Fah S. And I'm just going to say, we have an announcement about the show at some point soon. We do have an announcement about the show at some point soon. That's all. I'm just going to leave it on that. That's all we're going to say. If you have a question to comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at feedback at birdfuck.com or leave us the voice mailed 830. go to that's 830-463-6-8-44.

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I love it. Yeah. What a day. It sounded somber what you said, that we had an announcement about the show. all things must pass announcement about the show coming soon until next time

for the spoon back Mike Mitchell I'm Tiger Weiger happy eating see ya that was a hate gum podcast