Doughboys - Del Taco 2 with Kevin Bartelt & Yusong Liu

Episode Date: August 8, 2019

From the new podcast Maybe Don't, we're joined by Kevin Bartelt (Hollywood Handbook) and our own producer Yusong Liu to discuss eating vegan in California and to taste-test the new beyond meat options at Del Taco. Plus, a healthy juice-edition of Drank or Stank.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kellogg's. Today, it's a widely known breakfast foods company, encompassing products like Rice Krispies, Eggo Waffles, and Nutrigain Bars. But the man behind this now-state brand, and the inventor of Kellogg's signature cornflakes, was himself a fascinating figure, the eccentric nutritionist John Harvey Kellogg. In 1868, Kellogg, a devout Seventh-day Adventist, opened the Battle Creek Sanitarium in Battle Creek, Michigan. Unlike the common usage of the term sanitarium today, his was a health spa for the nation's elite in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Among the practices advocated by Kellogg at his retreat included frequent water enemas to flush out and restore bacteria, followed by the consumption of yogurt, both orally and

rectally. He also preached about the health benefits of sexual abstinence, a sort of predecessor to the no-fat movement. These sorts of oddities led to Kellogg and his sanitarium later being mocked as wacko, most famously in T.C. Boyle's comedic novel The Road to Wellville, later adapted into a film. But some of Kellogg's less bizarre practices strongly influenced his thinking in American health, the benefits of regular bathing and aerobic exercise, and the hygienic value of medical circumcision, which, for better or worse, became widely practiced in the United States. And Kellogg was also a strong advocate of a vegetarian diet, both for health and sustainability reasons, and personally developed a number of plant-based meat substitutes. While

the use of fake meat, primarily tofu, dates back to the Buddhist traditions of China's Han dynasty, Kellogg introduced this concept of the westernized diet of Americans. Over the 20th century, meatless versions of American dishes, such as veggie burgers and tofurky, gradually became mainstream and, as food science iterated, fake meat increasingly approximated the real thing. In 2009, the Beyond Meat Company was founded, and its pseudo beef and chicken were heralded for accurately simulating the taste and texture of animal protein, reflected in the company's explosive growth. And in 2018, Beyond partnered with the fifth largest Mexican-American chain to create veggie and vegan versions of its tacos and burritos. These Beyond meat-based

menu items went live in all of the chain's locations earlier this year. And, as of this episode's release, Beyond's biggest competitor, Impossible Meat, will have taken its plant-based burgers nationwide with Burger King. So while the sexual abstinence and yogurt enemas of John Harvey Kellogg may have receded to the fringe, Kellogg's innovation in meat substitutes, like his breakfast cereals, have become another part of how Americans eat. This week on Dough Boys, we return to Del Taco to sample its Beyond menu. Are you acting? I'm Nick Weiger. Alongside my co-host, Cobb's and Slaugh, the artist formerly known as Spoon, Mike Mitchell. Was that a roast in there? Yeah, Cobb's and Slaugh.

Like Cobb's and Slaugh, but he Cobb's and Slaugh. Like Cobb's of corn? Or Cobb's salad. And Slaugh, like coleslaw. Okay. It was fine. I liked it. Michael Jonathan Smith, roastspoonman at gmail.com. Michael sent that in. Thanks, Michael. The movie wasn't as good as I hoped. What did you do? I just turned a little thing and it went berserker. I felt like I got a static shock, like I'd done something wrong. I mean, I wish that I could shock you. Like that. Like a Ghostbusters, like that Stanley Milgram experiment. Is that the one? Yes. Where they would always, they'd like shock. Is that what the one? I wonder how I would take any sort of, I like to get any sort of reaction out of you, like how many times I'd have to shock you. Ow. Ow. Please stop buddy. Knock it off, buddy.

Mitch, I was yawning up top because this is maybe the latest we've ever started to record. I don't know what's the latest. It's after 9pm. What do you want from me? I was, it was, it is my fault. I want to be in pajamas right now. What type of pajamas? Minion pajamas. I know. They got like, you know, they got like, it's like where, like being a minion, you've got like the overalls and the yellow body. And when you get aroused, like Kevin pops out of your fucking trousers. He is the tallest. Oh, cool. Mitch, any summer flicks you've been enjoying? I was, I was working today, Nick. I know you were working today. You had a shoot. You had a valid excuse for us starting so late. Your, your shoot went way long. I'm so tired. They needed you on set. Your big Hollywood success. Jesus. Your big Hollywood actor.

That's not the case. It's not, just not true. Someone fetch Mike Mitchell from his trailer. We need him on set. Anyone have eyes on Mitchell? I think he's 10-1. You got a job, Nick, too. I did get a job. I can't talk about it, but it's for streaming service. You can't talk about it? No, it hasn't been announced yet. Can you even say what company you're working for? No, I can't. Fuck, all right, fine. Yeah. I had a joke. Well, I'll tell it when you do finally. Okay, that's good. Tell it now. We'll edit it out and then I'll just, I'll just react and we'll have the reaction. Okay. So that's a come joke. You just made a come joke. Okay. I just want to be clear on what joke you're making. I'll make it again when it, when the time comes. Okay. Okay. Great. Great. So everyone has that to look forward to. Did you like the

joke? Yeah, I liked it. It was good. I got to do, I got to do a drop. Oh yeah, do your drop. Who was, who was your burn from? You didn't say. Michael, Jonathan Smith. Oh, you did say. I did say, yeah. Thank you, Michael. roastspoonman at gmail.com, family wants to send them in. I was going to ask you about summer flicks, but we should keep it moving. Summer flicks? Yeah. I saw Hobbs and Shaw and I, I'm team diesel. I'm on team diesel. Why? You think they need Vin? Franchise is nothing, is a float without Vin, a drift without Vin. Look, if you, if you investigate all this, there's like weird, there's like weird animosity between all of us and the rock kind of split off and did Hobbs and Shaw and with what's his name? Who's? Who's? Who's? What's Shaw's name? Statham. Statham. Jason Statham. Who is cool? Statham is cool, but Vin Diesel's kind of was the guy behind these Fast and the Furious movies and they

got, they got really good. Yeah, they're like fun action movies. Yeah, and Hobbs and Shaw is like a different producer. I've heard in like a lot of CG, like when you go and see a Fast and Furious movie now, you see like a crazy set piece that you're like, whoa, that kind of like this, this part looked real. Sure. And then you don't have that in Hobbs and Shaw, maybe at all. Yeah, they're using CG, but not in the way that the razzmatazz way a lot of these block busters do. Yeah. They're using it sparsely. So I'm, I'm team diesel. I saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I loved it. I saw that too. I also enjoyed it. Favorite movie of the year. Uh-oh. Our two guests are looking at each other. Do you guys not like it or? All right, we'll get to this. I think, I think for liking it, we're canceled. I think that's just what that looks like. Is that what this is? Yeah, we're canceled. Now one, now one guest is very scared and doesn't know.

All right, let's hear, let's hear this drop. All right, here we go. I got that. It cuts off like that. He warned me. Oh, okay. Derek, I'm not sure how to pronounce it. Derek Lai? Derek, Derek. Yeah, Derek Lai. How's that spelled? I can't say. L-A-I. That's a good, that's a good guess. Uh, hi all. I was writing a song when the words Heat Seeker fell into the course pretty neatly. So I put together an alternate version of it for your dropping needs. If you'd like to that, I can be found on Spotify under Derek Lai. Oh, yes, L-I-E. Hey, there you go. It's a pronunciation. But it's L-A-I is how it's spelled. Derek Lai. Thanks. Notomich, isn't meant to embarrass or be some kind of sonic punishment. So there's a 51 second version linked here that doesn't cut off. So we'll probably if you're up for it. Thanks, Derek. That's a jam. We weren't up for it, Derek. That was, that was a good, that's a jam of the summer right there. That would almost be, that would be like a nice

little groove, like a little R&B groove that you can kind of have, like as a backdrop to some sort of romantic liaison, except for the lyric, which talks about violently shitting out of your asshole after eating something spicy. You're saying that that's a good romantic song? I'm saying it could be with different lyrics. I wonder what his original version I wonder what the lyrics are because they're certainly not about having a painful asshole after you eat spicy food. So neck kisser instead of heat seeker. Yeah, probably something like that. Yeah. Oh God, this is the least thing. No, this is very far from romantic. It's far from romantic. Let's let's introduce our guest. Oh boy. What a duo we got with us. One's a regular. One's a first timer. Our guests are super producers. They're the podcast Hollywood Handbook and

our own dough boys are to their credit. They are now turned hosts of their own show. Maybe don't, which is available wherever you find podcast. Chef Kevin Martelt and you song glue. Hi guys. Hi. Oh my God. Thank you so much for Thank you so much for having us. That was good. I've been tired too. I liked it. Everybody's acting around you song. Oh boy. Oh my God. Dough boys nights. It's been a while. Yeah, it's fucking late. It's so late. We're you and I were both working today. We had early mornings and now we got late nights. We're powering through it. These guys are powering through it and Emma's over there. She's powering through it. We're all hanging. You sound you get paid double today for as a producer and a guest. Oh, in cloud, certainly. And then exposure. But I'm not sure. Yeah. Yeah. What happens if you multiply zero times two? I'll have to do the math on that.

I'll get my calculator later. Um, so I want to start with one thing, which is that I'm fucking suckering him in the face. Hey, uh, uh, yeah, you might be able to do that math, but just wait until I beat you up. These are the kind of jokes you can look forward to on. Maybe don't. He's kind of sick burns. The thing you missed though with the audio experiences that you don't get to see you song bury his head in his hands. I would say like he just been convicted. I would say that you didn't nail the landing. No, he didn't quite, but I don't know. You missed the whole thing. Yeah. Um, Kevin, I wanted to ask you your nickname Chef Kevin. Yes. What is the etymology of that? And do you have any actual skills in the kitchen? Is it like a Dr. Mario thing? Yeah, it is. I think like what's his is his just he called himself Dr. Mario. Yeah, basically sort of like it. Well, no, I think he went to medical school. Yeah. Wait, true. Is that true? Yeah, we're far. He's germs. Yeah. Or like pills, like he's a pharmacist. He's maybe a pharmacist. Okay. Yeah. That's interesting. I think he has an actual doctorate or some sort of degree.

Mine is from a blue apron ad where Sean and Hayes said here at ear wolf, you know, we cook together as a family every night. Right. We get all the staff involved. It's Kevin here. We call him Chef Kevin. He cooks every night for us here. Kevin, come tell us about some of the recipes and I was like, Hey, guys, Chef Kevin here. And then so the following week we had another blue apron ad and they're like, we can't believe we're saying this, but we have Chef Kevin back here to help us with the ad. Got it. So then every then on actual episodes that had nothing to do with the ads, they called me Chef Kevin and it is stuck to this day. Very cool. Hey, Emma, can I just give you a little edit point? Can you bleep out your wolf every time? And edit out when Kevin talks. No, no, no. So do you, but like, okay, I get that that's a bit for for an ad, but do you have any, like, like how do you live up to your name at all? Not even to the slightest. I feel like I've gotten a little bit better once I moved to a new place with an actual nice kitchen, not like a kind of gross one bedroom that I was in that I didn't want to be around the kitchen. Yes. But I'm getting a little bit better now, I'm proud to say, but I don't think I think it's impressive, but anyone I'm like, Hey, check this out. It's like, No, this is just a pizza from scratch.

Sure. And that's pretty good. So impressive. Yeah. Yeah, wait, hold on a second. So you started cooking because you did this and now you are getting better at it? It's unrelated. I did feel a pressure because I often get asked like clearly you must be pretty good cook. I'm like, Oh, you'd be surprised. I'm not. But now that I'm in a new place with an actual kitchen, I should live up to the name a little bit more. So now I'm getting better at trying to get better at actually cooking. What was your setup? We're in like a bachelor apartment with a hot plater. What was it? No, it was just like one bedroom that had a very small kitchen. Not a lot of counter space. Just microwave a lot of stuff. Yeah, I got you. And you've moved into Ackerman's house. And I now live with Scott and Kuop. Oh, that's fun. So how did you guys, you're working together now on this show? How did your collaboration begin? And why did you decide to embark on this mission? I think we just wanted to, one, get to know each other and two, immediately kill that friendship by deciding to work together on a podcast. Our friendship started, or I guess just meeting each other on your podcast's worst case scenario.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Kevin was, I guess, on there and it was a really popular episode. And then we started talking and it took us literally eight months and several, several iterations of a premise to come up with. It's a show with an opening segment and a closing segment. That's what it's come down to. Yeah. And so, yeah, we did through, we went through a lot of like, oh, let's just write a whole improv thing. Let's have a much, yeah. We have like several pro tool sessions with several different pilots that all kind of tanked halfway through that mixed with like severe anxiety. I think we just kept panicking and then took a like six month, six month break. Right. Became like actual friends hung out a lot. And then a few months ago, we're like, hey, let's try this again with a more like, I don't want to say vague premise, but something that stick is more to like us. Just having more actual conversations, but then cutting that in with like bits and like you playing piano and playing keyboard. But yeah, it's like a fun variety show. We have a lot of fun doing it. People seem to like it. People seem to like it.

That's the biggest surprise. Yeah. Yeah. Don't be so surprised. Don't be so surprised. Do you song? I still am with our podcast. Wait, hold on. I was going to say, this is a natural podcasters reaction. I'm like, what? You like this shit? All right. That's something more of it. I knew Dope Boys was a fucking huge success. Where can you guys, where can this podcast be found? They can find it literally anywhere. You can find it on iTunes or Spotify or Google Play. This is the kindest, you know, thank you for the softballs. Well, I was going to say, we're going to nail you to the wall in a bit. What network are you with and how come? How come it's not with the Dope Boys podcasting network? It can be. We have a podcasting network. Well, we just recorded your wolf, but we're super independent. Oh, very cool. Super indie. You want to come over to my house, you son?

At 9.30. 9.30 PM only. No, it's super, it's super convenient to record at your wolf. But then I don't make eye contact with anyone and I don't speak to anyone. Yeah, you look down. Yeah. Got it. That's you and Nick are the same. Anytime he goes into that building too. I was marking down a lot of edits every time we sit here. So, okay. So, so one thing I know about your dietary habits, Kevin, is that you are a vegan and you sang, I know you eat pretty healthy as well. I mean, you're both you both seem like naturally slender men. I mean, I don't mean like, not these slender men. No, certainly not. Magnitudes more friendly. Nobody slender man. Nobody kill your middle school classmate on you, song or Kevin's bath. Not kill. Just stab. Oh, I'm sorry. Just stab. Nobody. Nobody stab your classmate. Do you guys know what all these millennials write as their college entrance essays? They write about the slender man. Why I stabbed my classmate. Anyways, go on slender men.

But like what, how long have you been a vegan and how has that affected your, your, your eating habits in general? I've been vegan for two and a half years coming up on three. Were you vegetarian before that? I was vegetarian for three years before that. And I went vegetarian for more environmental slash animal cruelty reasons. But I was still was eating like shit, like all the time, like eating a lot of garbage. And then I went vegan for more health reasons. I still eat a lot of trash, but cutting dairy out, I think was kind of the biggest difference dietary wise. Mitch's dishwasher is running. That's what you may have just turned on. I just got the light. I push a button. It's water out. Yeah, it's me in the head. Now I got a different question.

As far as the tentacles you use in slender man form. What do those do exactly? I think just scare people. They scare people. Got it. It's kind of a warning. Grab the children or what the deal is. He does. He does. He does have tentacles. Okay. I got a lot to learn about him. There's an HBO doc on the slender man on that whole, that whole stabbing. Wow. Yeah. It's, it's, it's pretty wild. That's crazy. And people get horny for slender man. Yeah. I don't know if you knew that. Why? I understand. Yeah. Cause his, his frame. I think he's tall. People like, yeah. He has a job. So, okay. So you, so what are you like, you say you still eat some garbage? What is the, the garbage you eat as a vegan? A lot of chips, a lot of barbecue chips, a lot of carbs. I feel like recently I've been gaining weight.

So I've been going to a, like a personal trainer, like saw a nutritionist who didn't know anything really about veganism, which made it pretty difficult. A lot of nutritionists didn't know anything about veganism. It was a nutritionist to be fair. Did you go to Dr. Mario? I did go to Dr. Mario. Mama mia, eat more spaghetti. You have some pills for your germs. What? This won't help. It was at LA fitness and it was just the fitness instructor there. Oh, got it. Okay. Oh, I actually know a lot about nutrition. And then when it came to actually giving advice, he was like, so like, you probably want to try more proteins. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. Thank you. Right. What, what, what proteins are you? Is it tofu? I mean, tofu is a big one when you're, when you're vegan, right? Yeah. A lot of different nuts and vegetables and protein shakes. You can go PB, right? Peanut butter. I live on peanut butter. I love it so much. But it has a lot of sugar though. So you have to be careful. Yeah, you got to be careful. Oh, you got to be careful.

I got the light again. We can close that door. Close the door to the kitchen. I was out of forks. I had to, I had to, I had to start that. You didn't have to start the dishwasher right before forks. We didn't have to start it right before we started recording. It feels very aggressive. Maybe not. Oh, boy. If it was full, I'd understand, but just for forks. Well, I hope this week's chain isn't out of forks because that would be bad news for it in the review sets. Oh man. Jesus Christ. Toe boys nights. Did you catch something from you, son? Oh boy. You hung out with us for 15 minutes beforehand. We did have a lovely time because we were waiting for you to wrap and I went over and met. That sounds a little fucking passive aggressive. I met you, song and get you were working. I met you, song and Kevin at the, we started an hour later than scheduled. So we had some time to kill. So I went over and we, we started two hours later. I hung out with Kevin and you song at the Starbucks Reserve,

the place we gave one fork because we had a really unsatisfactory time. They're tasting all of their very, very expensive menu items, but I just got myself a regular hot tea and it was just like a nice place to sit. You know what? I like the mixed teas over there sometime. The, the, the, like the iced tea, strawberry iced tea or whatever. Oh, sure. When they had like the mixed, the shaken teas, I thought they had some good teas. Yeah. That's fun. Maybe we're too hard on that place. No, I think we were fine. I told Nick when the, he walked up the barista was like, well, well, well, one of them did recognize you song though. Yeah. One of them keeps complimenting my glasses, which is really nice. Very cool. Yeah. Who, who would, whatever. It's pretty cool. He's pretty cool. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. He gets complimented on his looks. But he, he, he, he, he, he recognized you from, from what? No, he just was like, I like your glasses every time. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's pretty nice. But does he remember you or does he just like comment on your glasses? He was like, Oh, I remember your glasses. Oh, so he did specifically remember your glasses.

Yeah. You're, now I would say, because you do have nice glasses, but I don't think they're particularly distinct. No, I got these because, you know, I watch a lot of professional League of Legends and the, and the people that play in Korea were these very circular glasses. So I'm trying to look like cloud nine. Yeah, I'm trying to look like SKT. I, I, I, I, I really wanted that look and now I have it. So it's pretty good. Very cool. Am I going on the edit point for you? Move the ear wolf once, Todd. So, okay. So you're, you bet a vegan for, for a couple of years. You were, you were a glasses wearing guy at one point yourself. Oh yeah. I was talking about this earlier with these guys. We're killing time at the Starbucks Reserve. I was a glasses wearer for many years. I had some, I was also a contact sky and then I got LASIK. I got myself LASIK surgery over 10 years ago and now I'm going to get 2020 and one I 2017 and the other. Nick, you had, you told us about a crazy experience you had with an optometrist. Oh, that's right. I don't think I've told this story on here before.

I don't know it, but also I have a funny, do you know the last time I went to the eye doctor was the day we got into a big fight. Was it really the good morning America fight? Oh, that's right. And I, and I was so mad at you and I, and they, and they dilated my pupils and I, and I, and I couldn't text you, right? Because I couldn't see anything and I also drove home. Yeah, that kind of worked out for me, but, but, but I, but I called you and I left a very sad, upset message with you. I don't remember, but I literally, I literally could. You don't remember you piece of shit, but I remember like trying. I was so mad at you and I was like trying to text you. I couldn't see anything. Okay. Yeah, I go. I want to, I want to hear that. I'm coming. Um, yeah. So, uh, no, it didn't know the fact that you couldn't text me angrily. I mean, yes, but it's mildly, mildly easier and in quotes. I didn't work out for you. It was a bad decision. You fool. It was you bought me a cappy hat. Why you're called your doctor like dilate his eyes. We can't find him. God damn it. Do you know you sound? Can I call you? Can I say something about this that you called me? I called you. So do you actually called me at one point? Yeah, I called you and it was a very like sincere.

Like I can't see right now. Like here's the, yeah. And you know what he said, Nick? What? And I think this, this is, maybe I should be mad at you for this, you song, but you're like, look, I think Nick isn't right on this one. Oh, and I, but then I'm like, wait a minute. So he thinks Nick is right on every other one for this one. This is a new situation for me. Oh, no, I understand. He was trying because I know what it's like to manage difficult personality. He was placating you. Oh, so, so I understand. You were the difficult one here. You were the, you can't admit that still. We settled that. We settled this argument. No, I guess I apologize for it. I apologize for my being. You can't say you're wrong. You're fucking right. I said I was wrong when I apologized. I was wrong about it. Now let's hear this optometrist. Okay. So here's my, here's my story. So this is not related to LASIK. This was before I got, this was before I got LASIK.

I was getting a standard eye exam. I had a female optometrist who I'd been to a few times before. So this was maybe third or fourth visit. And so she's leaning in to give the exam and she's doing it like, you know, that thing that's like that. It's like one of those tools that you used to examine someone's eye like up closely, like with a light. She's doing that exam. So she's like leaning in really closely and she's like examining one of my eyes and then she goes over to my other eye and she's like inches away from my face. And while she's doing that, she goes, kiss me. Just says it very, very gently. Just like, just like, you know, like it barely escaped the words barely escape her lips. And I just like freeze up. I just like, I just don't do anything because I'm just like, what the fuck is happening? You froze up. You didn't kiss her. Why would I have done that? Because you this is like Eminem. You fucking dropped the mic. This is your moment. No, no, no.

And and so and then well, I wasn't married. But yeah, I was I was me and Ali were dating. I wouldn't have not have done anything. I was like in my mid 20s. I was maybe like 24. Natalie would have given you a pass. I get a hall pass for the optometrist. By the way, I think I mentioned this to you. That movie should have been called cheat day. That would have been a better title. Because hall pass, it's like two ambiguous cheat day. And then you isolate the action of one day, you get one day to cheat guys. And then there's more tension there. Anyway, I should have been hired to punch up that script 10 years ago. But so here's what happens. So she so I take no action. And she just goes on with the exam like normal. And I don't know. I still don't know. Did she actually like, did she think she said it in her head and not realize she said it aloud? I suspect that maybe happened or was it is this her move and she does this to other male patients and is may it's maybe worked out for her in the past.

It's like anyway. So where is the place? My theory is bizarre. My theory was like, why her imagined it and he like leans in for a kiss and she's like, what are you doing? That's very likely. It was weird. So anyway, so you probably saw your lifeless eyes and thought you were like a sex doll. Plastic for a sex doll. That's that is that's that's crazy. It was very weird. So okay, so wait, do you know how we get on the ice stuff? Because, because, because we talked about you songs glasses. Oh, right.

Do you know that I was a glasses boy? We always talked about this before. I was too. Wow. All of us were glasses boys. Kevin's got contacts now. You do not have contacts. I corrected themselves because I'm a superior being. I think you just like you were just squinting to to see and then your eyes just locked in place like that. I've said this on the podcast before that that that they they thought that I had issues. They thought that I was they thought that I was slow. Right. This is true because I was reading. I couldn't read. I was holding the book really close to my face and I couldn't read. Yeah. And then and they were going to put me in classes. They were going to put me in kind of like the I don't know what the name. Special needs classes. Special needs classes, basically. And then one of the teachers like you should go get his eyes examined and my mom was like, okay.

And then because it's like I was in kindergarten or something. And then I had like an extreme lazy eye and I had to wear a patch and I patch for a full year. I wore a like like a I patch for a full year. Like I almost it was almost blind in one eye. Yeah. And they thought I was going to lose sight in the eye. I wore an eye patch for a year and then extremely thick glasses. And then the doctor was like his eyes are going to correct themselves. The doctor said this. They're going to correct themselves, but then they're going to go the other way at one point. So I'm going to start like going blind at one point in my life, but not blind blind. But my eyes were going to get really I think going to get weak. I like I had terrible vision. That happens naturally. Yeah. But like they medically they so they think the laziness migrated from your eye to your brain. It's spreading. I have a piece of shit. When I was in high school, I went to my class counselor to take the art.

You could like I don't know if you guys had this, but you could like volunteer to help the special needs classes. Like you could take like special education like art or special ed gym class and like or bowling and do different activities with them. Yeah. And I asked my counselor if I could like take those volunteer in those classes and she was like, oh, sweetie, you need to have like a disability to be in those classes. She thought you were asking to be in them. It's so weird. I was like, no, I want to volunteer in them. Yes, people are so. And then she was like, let me help further your education. So many adults in positions of power are just dumb. They're just like idiots. Yeah. And just like and you don't really later is just like, oh, that teacher I had was like a fucking dipshit.

They know what the fuck they were talking about. They're just like a dumb adult who like that was the job they got. And then they just like stayed there because it can be that institutional inertia. It's like, oh, like my podcast boss, they're like fucking stupid. That is that's that's that's I had teachers like sleeping in class, like put on movies and would like sleep in class. Oh, yeah, it is pretty wild. The stuff that people get away with. Do you have a manager? I get so emotional. I did an inside baseball joke that wager really liked.

I'm trying to guess. Sorry, keep on. I was just going to say, I get really emotional when I watch. Sorry, you have a you have a you have a. There you go. You had a hair in your glasses. I don't like that moment. Nick just took an. Kiss me. Kiss me. Oh, I'm so distracted now. Not from. Yeah, OK, but I get really emotional when I watch like chat talks about education.

I don't know if you feel the same way. But yeah, I just feel like, you know, if our teachers are better, this has nothing to do with food or the podcast. That's OK education. Hold on. I thought there was more. I thought you're going to say more. No, I just like I'll just like get really emotional. I'm watching like Ted talks by really passionate teachers. Oh, that's how this you were. You had the Ithaca teachers.

You saw they were OK. Yeah. I had some really great teachers and then some teachers that were like, man, we really taught ourselves at the end of that semester or that year. Do you guys think you would be like a good teacher? Like if that was like it, if that had been your alternate career. I wanted to I'm shaking your head. No, I don't want to do originally. Yeah, my mom's a fourth grade teacher, too. And it's like so fucking chat like the job never ends.

Basically like you go home and grade papers all day. Right. The only benefit I think is like the summer. But then you have to kind of start prepping your class like a month before the first day of school. So it seems so exhausting. Right. I come from a family of teachers. I'm aware of this. My mom was a teacher.

My dad was a teacher. That's where they met. And then he went to law school in his 30s. And then my sister is just became a principal of a very exciting. Before she turned 40. Yeah. Which is very cool. Do you want to hear something crazy?

My grandpa was the gym teacher for my other grandpa. Wow. Wow. They're like 10 years apart. Yeah. And he was a like PE teacher and then he became a principal. But my other grandpa was in the same school and had him as a teacher. That's crazy.

That's crazy. That's crazy. Wait. Hold on. If any other listeners have a story like that hashtag grandpa connection. Let us know. Because that's I'm sure that's happened to other people. Yeah.

But like their grandparents met in the in the past or hashtag grandma connection. That's such a weird kid. That's such a weird relation because like it is very strange. It's supposed to be like our like our kids are getting married or whatever. Yeah. But then you're like you were like the little dink that was running around my gym when I was the that's crazy. And it is very weird to think about that.

That grandpa is so fascinating too because he had to both him and my grandma had to marry someone who was 100 percent Italian and my grandpa lived in Chicago. My grandma was in Ohio. The date was set up. He drove to like Toledo Ohio to go on a date with her to go on a date with my grandma's sister. My grandma opened up the door and was like hi how are you my grandpa thought it was her because he'd never seen her before and was like hi how's it going like I'm so excited

to go on this date with you. And she's like oh it's actually my sister she's upstairs. So then he went on the date with the sister they didn't really hit it off. And I think he just kind of flat out was like is your sister available. Wow. And then it was like yeah I think you guys are probably a better fit and then started dating my grandma. And then the sister went on and started dating Dr. Mario.

Yes. What a catch. Yeah. We're going to go all Italian. I know. So wait. So that's that's insane. Yeah.

So wait. So you have one side of your family is is fully Italian. 100%. Yeah. That's your. Yeah. Your mom's side. Your mom's side.

Okay. I kind of get you now. Yeah. The weird fucked up family you come from. Things are starting to add up in your head. What was the food like growing up in your family. A lot of Italian a lot of like spaghetti lasagna masa trolley a lot of like pasta varieties basically and then that was mostly what we had for dinners and then other stuff was like

kind of just lazy like tacos from scratch. There was always like one meat day where it was rather like a steak a pork chop or like chicken something on the grill. It's fun. And then there was always one day a week. I don't know if you guys had this but in retrospect that don't think it was smart but our school had like a charity event where if you went to McDonald's on Wednesday and you said like the school's name half of whatever you paid went to a charity.

But it was a like a literal excuse to go to McDonald's one day a week for like my entire childhood. Wow. So I always had one day a week that was McDonald's. That's amazing. It was I wish we didn't like in hindsight. It was nuts. Two days a week were probably Italian food and then like some sort of like a frozen pizza

mac and cheese and nothing really like healthy. There was no like now we're just going to have like a salad. It was like a salad with your steak and potatoes right full full heart attack. Man that just Italian families. I used to the some of my best friends grown up with the two foes. Yes. And I went that I went when I was back in Quincy. I went to the two foes.

I was for like an Italian. Mrs. Toofo made an Italian dinner and that's like what I used to always I would go up there and like Anthony Dan my friends and Chris their younger brother. They would like eat a little bit and they would leave and then Mrs. Toofo be so happy because I would just sit in there and fucking eat everything right. The big fat like the big fat Irish kid and then their grandparents were next door and then like I would do that like anytime I went over there to they were like I eat up eat and then I would just sit there just eating for like two hours straight.

Were you did I meet the two foes when I was in Quincy with you? Hmm. I because I met this is so I would like driving with Mitch around Quincy because Mitch took it took us on a little driving tour. Yeah. And he is like you're like the mayor of Quincy. It was because you just drive around and then just someone's just like hey it's Mitchell and they like wave at you and you like pull over and have like a 10 minute conversation

with some like random family. And then they're just we had so we had you met Mrs. Toofo. I met Mrs. Toofo. Okay. And we also we met we met like your cousin and like because you had we had a rental car and we had New York plates on it and everyone was just like hey what's with the New York plates like everyone was giving you was getting the same Boston way. And you were playing Angry Birds and I was like this is Nick and they're like hi Nick

you're like hi from the car rolls the window up. But it's so strange to see because like if I went like on my block my own block chasing you with torches right. And there's maybe like one family I'd recognize if they're still there. But that's like basically it like even when we lived there we weren't like friends with our neighbors. Why different way. I had a similar experience of that today where there's a deli where I get lunch almost

every day. And I took a break because when I went vegan they don't have any vegan bread. And then my friend suggested it's not that they don't have vegan bread. They don't know if they have vegan bread which often means they don't. So what I did was asked where their bakery like what bakery they used and I called their bakery and they're like yeah the wheat bread that we send to that place is vegan. Oh nice. So then recently I started going back but I go so much that like when I would call and

put an order in they would recognize my voice and be like oh this is Kevin right. And they would know my order. And then today for the first time I when I called they're like hi Kevin. Like now they know my phone number. That's like the closest I felt to that we're like walking into a place. That's amazing. Yeah so. Can I just tell you that I was bummed out as soon as you said vegan bread.

I never really came back from it. Right. You checked out. Vegan bread. Geez. I guess that is. Dairy free I guess. God.

I had a set like. No way. No way. No way. Yeah no way. Man. I guess and the most breads have some sort of like it's like yeah I think we were talking to Zooks about this a little bit because he has an egg allergy.

That is like very very tough for him. But yeah your story made me think of this. So I used to when I was when I was broken working at Activision in my early 20s I would go to the same 7-Eleven. Now when I go to the same 7-Eleven all the time and I would after work like basically every day I would go and get a 40 of Mickey's fine malt liquor. It would be like is the cheapest way to get drunk and like I hated my job in my life and it was just a way to come down.

Now you love your job and your life. Yeah. And so I would just this became a regular habit of mine. I was just getting like a 40 all the time and you know for like $1.69 and then the guy who worked there started calling me Mickey man. He'd be like hey Mickey man. And that was the point I was just like fuck I gotta I gotta get my life in order. And 15 years later.

What games did you make over at Activision? Well I didn't make any games when I worked at Activision. Is this the Supranos one? So that was when I worked at Seven Studios when that game was actually published by maybe Treyarch. I don't remember which company. Did you code on pitfall at all? A game that came out in 1979?

No. I didn't work on that one. Game that came out the year before my birth. So no I didn't when I worked at Activision I was just doing customer support and so it was like a phone rep. I would answer phone calls from angry parents that they couldn't get an Xbox game to work on their game. Man you were so infuriatingly hard to get a response like to get riled up.

So like I bet you people were like fuck you you piece of shit yeah it's okay. Yeah it's actually kind of like I was a good fit for that job. Yeah. Yeah I mean because I'm just like a calm and I could cut and like also people would take a lot of shit and they'd also be mad yeah I'm a punching bag but people would be mad at the company and then they'd just like take their side and be like yeah that sucks man you got ripped off that sucks you know and like whatever you're just there is their shield anyway but the corporate shield anyway but I would also after that I worked as a game

tester and as a game tester I worked on a strategy game that I don't really remember the empire or something they don't remember the name of and I actually worked on the original Call of Duty just doing game testing but I don't even have a credit on that and then when I got into game design that was a different that was another five years of my life at a different studio but anyway I have a recognition yes okay and I don't like these next few words okay when I studied abroad I used to go to the same bakery every morning to get like a like a paolo chocolat and like a sandwich with ham and cheese and then one day I went twice in one day and the person recognized me and she said how are you am I it was the

happiest I've ever been that's nice yeah it was that's cute that's very cute I like where are you I was in France oh yeah that makes sense I should I should have picked up on some of those clues I love when you start stories with alright this sounds crazy I don't want to brag and then it was always the most like I don't want to brag I know this sounds crazy it's a huge flex yeah I got a massage so so but what that was just like you're spending time in Paris and you were getting kind of lonely maybe or just like the people you were connecting with you seemed sad you know that's what it seems like no it definitely does seem that way but it was also like I probably was very lonely but it was also just like man I

connected with like someone who actually lives here oh got it like nice me that's wild it's as if I have a life here and I was like oh man this is what this is what it's all about studied abroad yeah me either have you guys noticed have you guys noticed the word wild is like in the zeitgeist I started saying you think you started saying I say it a lot to check the tapes I someone check the tapes find the first I've said it for a long time I say that's wild and that's nuts but I think I say that because I don't have better adjectives to use I was like it was an action boys and they're saying things are wild I say I say things are wild I've heard I like why I look wild just kind of in the zeitgeist

you guys have both said that something was wild today I like it I started yikes yeah okay yikes is pretty I'm gonna start a new one that's crazy the thing there is I feel like it's kind of it's like very performative and I'm not sure everyone can do that in the same way like it's kind of like the big bopper yeah that's crazy yeah it's kind of hard big bopper needs to make a comeback hello baby that's crazy the big bopper died in the the uh right there wasn't either yeah the music died what buddy holly you're just learning about this I mean what do we what do we put it with Richie Valens big bopper and buddy holly all right I've never seen the bomba yes no you've seen seven movies do people not know the I haven't either the day the music died

anymore I don't know is that falling out of the cultural consciousness hey the day when music died was when I stopped taking piano lessons hey that's true we'll take a break back the we're here with you song and Kevin chef Kevin chef Kevin say podcast maybe don't uh hey well I was gonna say before we we we before we went to commercial we talked about the day the music died if we were to die on this tour this upcoming tour what do you think that would be considered is it it's just the two of us yeah yeah you song and I'm are spared okay um I mean depending on what it happens I would say it just it would be like September 5th or September 7th depends on what day it hit wow the saddest day in September's history I mean maybe it's like yeah this the 9

11 of podcast yeah no I mean like if it was like it was like the two of us and then like gabris and nicole buyer and like pft or something you know I mean then it would be like like all this podcasting tragedy we just lost these three titans of podcasting and these two other guys oh the headline would be something like rss more like rip yeah this is sarcastic news source I like yeah make punny headlines for tragedies yeah most obituaries are kind of planning or like princess die more like princess dead you know what it helped everyone died so we're talking about the other people that you named have uh we asked to go on tour and they told us a but which to find out so a restaurant is del taco we haven't reviewed del taco one of my

personal favorites since 2015 with her buddy alan yang it was a semi-finalist in this year's tournament of champions but had an underwhelming performance uh the the chain was founded in 1964 in california's inland empire first outlet in the mojave desert and they in 2018 they launched there beyond menu went nationwide in 2019 or as nationwide as del taco is featuring tacos and burritos with a plant-based meat substitute go ahead oh i can't i don't go ahead i thought i was bored by what you were saying so i was trying to get bullet points i was trying to shock himself with the ox go i am trying to do it again it's not working anymore um i just want to say that nick i was in the mojave desert yeah shooting a little thing for uh these guys nick i saw an

out in the wild tarantula on a rock wow an eight legged freak an eight legged freak out in the wild isn't that wild what did you do um that's crazy thank you you song thank you you song you gotta pick this up for me but you song is right isn't that isn't that crazy that's crazy wait so what is the boy you had another acting job look at you you're all over the place uh this was a decade ago okay still it's work that's two um there is a huge uh insect crawling up you song today oh my god as weger was walking out of the starbucks to meet us i was like swiping his chest to get the the bugs off of him was the was the bug had the bug lifted him into the air what kind of insect are we talking i don't know but it was very very large i look like an ant on steroids

yeah oh my god massive yeah like a big ass ant you guys ever see the house centipede no it's a fucking nightmare creature i'm just gonna plug my ears for a little bit i don't like that it's called you sung his plug in his ears i don't like that it's called the house centipede yeah it's like a fucking nasty ass bug it looks like it's got like just like awful like disgusting claws you can see oh god is it they found are they found in houses yeah you'll just find them in your house i think they're they're less common in north america or at least we're at least in calvary but we did find one once we found one in mayan alley in our old shitty apartment and we fucking i fucking like clobbered it with a shoe and pulled the shoe away from the wall it was still alive holy

shit you fucking asshole no it's like fucking they're like famously armored they're like the tiger shot it with a gun uh but yeah they it was a it fucking took a they're it's scary as shit um i think they're actually harmless but they look like fucking freaks so you shouldn't let it outside well we're still at the time we just saw this and we're like it like freaked out but yeah i try not to kill insects you know it'd be a cool uh show what bug battle you put two bugs up against each other i think that's like middle school right they do kind of like there are youtube videos you will see that of like they'll put like a like a i think hornets are like is it too fucked up that you see a dead dead animal like a dead

the dead insect i don't know maybe people don't but bug battle is a fun show i think people would be upset yeah even though that people will will swat away a fly very casually i think they'd be upset by it being gladiatorial combat okay so i don't think you could get away with that a harmless way to do this is to play pokemon go that's true this isn't even a paid promotion right it's i'm four years late to the bandwagon but it's really really fun the new pokemon the new nintendo switch pokemon comes out in just a little bit you song this is also true i mean i'm just amped poke it's just so good you just walk around you're spinning poke stops okay pokemon is this pokemon go yeah it's it's so much fun it's just like makes any walk better jesus christ is this real yeah they have

like conventions right like i think in grand park in chicago they had like a pokemon go fast we were we were there for that was during the head gum festival and i didn't even know could aren't you sad for all the pokemon that we missed while we were there boy what a bummer chef kev are you a gamer at all a little bit i got a ps4 i got a we you not a switch for breath of the wild and then i beat that and then sold it uh a year ago and got a ps4 for spider man the new spider man game and i have recently been playing the tetris effect yeah and god of war and um red dead red guy and all like the more popular stuff if you get that switch back our boy you song will fucking take you down i know just 99 yo so good i'm pro but i'm better at smash

pros though we played this weekend yeah i'm really it's like the one thing i'm very i played it religiously as a kid i just want to wait who's your main uh fox oh man you probably yeah you probably got some skills hey can you do you hear this they hang out with each other outside of podcasting doesn't make any sense to me um it's pretty weird we gotta play i'd love to play in smash it's been a while i love it you and chef kevin are gonna hang out yeah i think we're friends now don't you're not and then i'll hang out with you and be like look weiger was wrong you're you saw you were right oh boy so so uh you song i know you're a big chipotle fan oh okay yeah when that's when i feel the most connected to my community is when i go to chipotle because

they'll be like how they also ask me how's your day oh they recognize me right you've you've kind of gone off on this before when we haven't been recording and i'd say that we got semi mad at you yeah you like chipotle a little too much i like chipotle guys you're basically losing money if you're not on their rewards program it's really really good and uh i really like it it's near my house there's a parking lot which is so important i cannot stress the importance of the parking lot um cell lay it's a nightmare uh and it's just i don't know what do you get culture what do you get there um oh okay here's my order it's me jay watch out hey you got me got space for my old time fire truck comedians and cars getting chipotle oh immediate subscribe but white rice

pincho beans chicken uh half mile half medium corn if i'm feeling like i'm a king guacamole a little lettuce wow you stay away from cheese and sour cream no dairy no dairy for literally yeah it makes me feel it gives me the rumblings i can't do it wow and you're getting it that as a bowl right now as i'm getting that as a bowl or burrito but the burrito is just like you give up on the rest of your day if you have that right sometimes even with the bowl i am so stuffed that by the time i get home i'm like i'm done for the day or my stomach is just right yeah so you're so you're at chipotle i know you're a chipotle superfan kevin what is what is your stance on on mexican food i maybe a little tricky to eat as a vegan actually mexican food i think

is the best i think it has the most options for a vegan whenever i go completely wrong yeah um so try again uh no i think whenever i go with friends know like where do you want to get food i always try to find a mexican place right i just think a veggie burrito is like a very easy thing to order got it and just saying like a veggie burrito with no dairy 99 percent of mexican restaurants have that whereas like italian restaurants like different like asian cuisines it's a little trickier uh to find no you shaking your head no it's like it's like it's so hard to be a vegetarian or a vegan in china i'm sure it's like different in like western metropolis oh interesting but yeah it's just like i think it's so much a part of that culture that it's oh really yeah but in my in my

mind that like there's so many good vegetable dishes when at when i go to chinese food restaurants or something it's like uh rice and then like like just a mixed vegetable for sure actually i mean that is 100 true but i i have this like feeling and i could be 100 wrong so i'm just speaking for myself but it's like um i get very much here my relatives being like what do you mean you're not eating me like sure with social pressures yeah and it's also too i feel like like a lot of times it'll be like oh you don't realize this dish has like shrimp paste in it or like fish sauce you know what i mean you know or at all those places that have the different like delicious steamed vegetables or like a good salad at an Italian restaurant for me i want something that like fills me up more yeah

and uh a burrito is like delicious to me right you don't want to see your salad and some broccoli rob that is the most frustrating thing when a place is like we have vegan options and they're all like light salads right it's like don't say that you have vegan options so okay so yeah i got fucking lit right there so specifically del taco uh have you have you eaten a del taco much before this was my very first time your first time and and do you song i know you've had del taco but it was only the context of del boys yes emma and i had del taco for the first time together because of this show right yeah okay so you guys are both really pretty much uh pretty much del neophytes i'm a i'm a i'm a del freak um so del clothes freak too love del close thank you del i think

that has to do with del thank you both dels del taco marathon sounds like a weekend at the weigher household i was at uh just for laughs yeah uh beser was there and i was like how was the first dc m in la and he goes oh so you didn't go wow and i i tried to backpedal so hard and i just i spun out so fast uh we didn't go either we were we were uh we went to i think we were like i think we're out of town or somewhere else somewhere else i tried to say that but the gap of time where he called me out on when i said that it sounded like a lie right needed butts in seats trying to buy a condo over here um okay so so you guys are you haven't had a lot of del taco i've had a ton of it mitch i know is is a fan even though he prefers taco bell which is a totally

fine opinion um so the the i'll talk to the beyond you put you on a higher level of del taco person than i i say i like it more than you do i think that's fine you do you do that we like it different amounts you do eat it a crazy amount you eat it a lot i eat it a lot i eat it too much i've actually tamped down the amount of del taco that i have but because i was going too frequently they opened one by my place by where we live within walking distance of our apartment where i that i saw him setting up a tube that said one right to your fucking place i there was a point where i went 12 times in eight days and i was like this is like excessive i need to stop oh my god and they were like hey multi-mix that's so

here the beyond the beyond menu items they have right now the beyond avocado taco this one is the only one that's actually vegan uh this is just the beyond meat which is crumbled up like like taco meat uh and avocado lettuce and tomatoes in a crunchy shell the beyond taco which i think was the the first thing that they have and there was kind of their flagship product which is the same thing except they out they there's no avocado and there's hand-graded cheddar cheese instead the beyond eight layer burrito which is their standard eight layer burrito i won't read all eight layers but includes guac and and sour cream and all that goodness and um and they substitute out they have a beef version of this they sub out the beef for uh ground uh beyond

meat and the same thing the epic beyond cali burrito which is the basically the eight beyond eight layer burrito except they cram some fries in there and it's bigger uh so i got all four items wow did you guys also what did you guys we got three of the three of the four okay the basically the avocado we got the the beyond taco without dairy so without the cheese and it was basically identical to the avocado tacos you might as well get the avocado you might as well get the avocado yeah yeah um unless you don't like avocado i also got all four items uh in you song i just want to say um we have you come on the show you and kevin here and you get three of the four items we got three of the four and then we got a huge nacho platter yeah we all got nachos and i got

shows okay wait did you guys get vegan nachos what did you do yeah we got the a nacho platter without cheese or sour cream and they put the beyond meat on it okay interesting you know what you want us back a little bit that's good thank god close one here's my thought with the the beyond let's start with the beyond taco which you and i had mitch uh the one with with cheese i think this is this is my favorite of the menu i think this is like the i think they just the cheese makes the fake meat like like sore it just like it like it covers it up enough where you don't really notice the difference between it and ground beef or ground turkey which is another option you know you know my rank i mean i feel like almost i should should i should i just tell you my rankings yeah

rank them rank them up oh here we go ready yeah uh eight layer burrito was first the taco the right the regular taco like you were saying was second yeah cali burrito third last place was that avocado taco yeah i would i have a similar ranking to you except i think i put the beyond taco first then the eight layer burrito then the cali burrito although it's close because i do like the texture the fries give it and then i have the beyond avocado taco last the the beyond and i i'll say in those rankings it's great good fine bad i don't know if i call the beyond avocado taco bad because i do appreciate that they actually have a vegan option like you don't have to make any modifications it's just straight up vegan as it goes but here's my my big note instead of avocado

it should be guacamole and they should spread it or evenly because they give you one paltry little sliver like an eighth of an avocado that does not come close to filling that that big old shell it's awkward in there it's very awkward in there and it's kind of hard like it starts to fall out if they had just like a layer of guac like vegan guac that was just spread across the top it would be much better yeah you're saying i aren't talking about this with like i i feel so indifferent about hard shell tacos for that exact reason that i'm such a soft shell loyalist that hard shell is more of like a an appetizer like just eat one small thing before eating like or like one two small ones before eating like an actual meal and i think that's not that crazy but i just get so

fra and this is someone who like lives and dies by chips so you think in theory i would love it it's just like hard to enjoy i think when it's just like constantly falling apart although i think these were better but i had that exact frustration with the avocado that was like you take one bite and then the whole avocado just like falls yeah yeah it's a little it's a little clunky like avocado don't yikes yeah that was good so i'm driving you to del taco and i want you to say that into the speaker um the uh my here's my issue with avocado taco is just that the the beyond meat is so on display it really is and then i don't know if i like the beyond meat when we did the impossible every time i've eaten impossible meat i think that it's it's the one

that i'm like this is crazy and it tricks me and i yes but the beyond i'm not sure how i feel 100 percent did you have it with cheese because i think weiger has a good point that that stuff and just vegan meats in general i think taste so much better when there's a sauce on top of it right some sort of thing to kind of hide that it's often drier than like a traditional meat yeah so i think some sort of like sauce over it distracts it in a helpful way i i the the two my two favorites were the eight the eight layer burrito which had beans yep and sour cream and everything in there and i couldn't really taste the the beyond meat but you just can't get the texture of it but the the taco there too with the cheese like you were saying that that did that did help but the

yeah it's just it's like a umami or how do you say that umami yeah umami yeah umami burger i don't know right the first time yeah it's like an umami or like a like a nutty or a mushroomy flavor there was like some sort of flavor in that beyond meat that i don't love just think of think of what you would say uh when mrs. mitchell invites you to peek in the shower oh mommy the first time i had an impossible burger i was telling us to use on earlier was at umami burger right yeah yeah and um they this was like right when they started selling it but the buns weren't vegan and the ketchup had fish oil so you had to get it with a as a lettuce wrap yeah without a lot of like the sauces it was kind of shitty and it ruined impossible burgers for me for like a year right

yes exactly two for two and we're gonna after we drive to del taco we'll cruise on over to umami and let them know and shut down two restaurants uh yeah they'll probably just close up chop you'll just see the light turn off after he says that how do they recover i fully agree that the impossible seems to be a superior hey by the way you're a piece of shit for that mum line i was trying to think of something to come back at you you and diapers with natalie or something like i just couldn't do it yeah she wouldn't stand for that shit uh she's already halfway out the door okay so yeah the impossible i agree with mitch fully the impossible beat is superior to the beyond meat and the anytime i've had both i've like i always prefer the impossible i think the beyond

has a pretty good texture but yeah when you get that meat in isolation even with the the taco seasoning it's primarily pea protein apparently and it tastes a little cardboardy like a little it doesn't it gets a little yeah umami maybe because it is it's kind of mushroomy too again it's pretty far from meat when you're actually the flavor out of it as as good as the texture is in simulating it the the burrito is good yeah i just like the crunch from those from those uh from those fries but which of the burritos did you guys get we got the epic beyond kelly burrito the one with the fries in it oh my god this was very good yeah this is this obliterated my expectations wow wow all right i i thought it was okay but the fries are very helpful i also got one of them out for it

to be to be clear i got one of them i made a meal and i got a diet coke and i got some of those del taco fries yeah man those the del taco fries it can be very good crinkle cut fries they're outstanding yeah those are vegan too they said right i think so yeah on the website yeah i would imagine if you're getting the burrito vegan since you're losing the sour cream and the the cheese from the eight layer burrito that probably that kali burrito would be better in a vegan form and i i go to taco bell i think like two or three times a month probably and i get the and i learned about the taco bell app on your jackie johnson episode who so highly promoted it that's right and i feel now i get more adventurous with like modifications stuff that i wouldn't

feel as confident being like and put fritos on that and like adding a bunch of different things that are fun and i think that this kali burrito was significantly better yeah that being said taco bell a taco bell bean burrito is like kind of an easy no-brainer thing where the kali one is like bigger it looks better it does look better it's she it's kind of it's huge it's definitely it's like the equivalent of like two and a half bean burritos a taco bell and it looks more like something you would get at a restaurant it does not look like a fast food burrito at all no so that's more of a thing like if you want to have like a full meal you would get that whereas if you want something kind of like fast and easy like a taco bell bean burrito is probably more what you're

shooting for i do think and and i don't remember exactly what its price was i should have written it down or taken a photo of their seat but i think it's like 7.99 or something right it's pretty expensive this this is the it's all expensive yeah the those four things because you i could get four similar things with beef in them at del taco would be like 12 to 15 dollars yep right and this was 22 dollars right uh which was surprising i and and which i get i i mean like i it sucks because it should be less it should be less money i mean like just like it people should be eating that way to help the earth out every so often so it should be like oh this is like a cheaper option if you don't want to have beef or something here you go but when it starts i guess it's

going to have this high price but i think there's also just like a so much demand for it right now that yeah kind of a premium price but god keep going my my my thought when i ate all of this food was that with almost everything i still and i didn't know if this is going to be the case because when we ate the umami burger with the impossible burger i was hard for me to tell that that was like a plant-based burger by the way they have an impossible burger at islands now if you have an islands near you and it's fucking great um but with all these items i could tell that they were like non meat yeah that's true um but the one that was the closest was the eight layer burrito to me just because there was so much going on but with everything else i like i i just i tasted the

i could tell that it was which which which is what i as someone who like i want to not know i want to i want to be tricked into it and i think the only one is probably the eight layer if that was like at a party and i had a like a couple drinks or something i had yeah i wouldn't be able to tell right yeah there's some you know a party when you're having drinks and they just got a tray of burritos they were able to nosh on what the hell's wrong with that i don't know that sounds like a good fucking party to me one of the hand like one of the few parties i went to um it was the herpetology in france but like someone made this awesome move of getting taco bell tacos halfway through and it was one of the best parties yeah you'll be the you'll be the star of that party it

was incredible so i remember harris harris wittles bought a bunch of mcdonald's after a show one night and it was great he bought mcnuggets and burgers nick were you there i wasn't there no i took off i went straight home put on my minions pjs a lot of new york restaurants r.i.p or harris yes a lot of um new york restaurants i know it's just strange all right sorry i mean we know if you usually say it i know but i'm like you know my dad and you don't have to say like r.i.p to my dad all right sorry i won't say it anymore no no you should stay at sometimes oh boy all right kevin r.i.p mitch's dad she says don't talk to him at all okay r.i.p this podcast a lot of new york restaurants will have like all vegan options but they won't advertise it what i i think is really

cool you only see that like online or they'll put very small on like the bottom right hand part of the menu none of this is actual meat how do you feel about that do you i i like that i think that's like a cool sneaky thing i think some people are annoyed because they're getting like sweat tricked into eating it all i can think about as my dad getting summoned from his cloud in heaven looking down and being like what what the fuck is this podcast by a slender man tentacle this is bullshit my son's doing um so yeah i've i've like uh i don't know if i've encountered that specifically where i felt like i was being tricked but there are play there's this place monday's good burger on on western which is have you been there a lot yeah place is fucking great

and it's all plant-based it's all vegan but they have yeah you saw my opinion oh yeah yeah i couldn't shake like vegan but it's like a shake shacked style burger and like shake shake style fire or self rise i've been there without it it's fucking dynamite that's a good example of like being vegan eating like complete trash like you're eating like a ton of fries a huge burger a milkshake it's like 32 it's like a spot like it's like a spot that people take like instagram photos it's very hot but hip oh i've done it um yeah it's a college vegetarian every people say before like that the idea of like you're eating like shit but you're like i'm not having any meat you know yeah yeah uh okay well let's uh we should get to our final thoughts on del tacos

beyond oh wait before we do that tell me about your guys nachos real quick oh i mean they were suggested to us by the person behind the counter she was so she was really helpful she was the one in the first place who told us like hey just so that you know it's not on the menu but you can add the beyond meat to the nachos right and it was literally that beans tomatoes and jalapenos it was great i feel like there's three types of responses as like uh as a cashier or as a waiter yeah to being vegan it's like this is annoying for me as the waiter i don't care or i want to go out of my way to help you yeah and she definitely was the last one uh to where like she could immediately tell when we're like does this have dairy does this have dairy she's like okay so

you're vegan and then suggest that you should try the nachos we can modify that to be vegan as well that's great um yeah it was really yeah like you said it had like jalapenos uh the beyond meat kind of scattered over it and tomato and tomato yeah and i will say as someone like i haven't had that much experience with a beyond meat so i personally like could not tell the difference but i i'm not someone who like um i'm super super not picky right uh when it comes to food so i i wasn't really thinking about it um when we got on tour with you i don't think i've seen you eat i think um it's it's weird because i i i do eat a lot maybe it's only edge of polly oh god okay but here like uh but yeah the the nachos were great the churros were just like it was it was a

blast it was just churros it was very sweet very fun um yeah and that's what we've rounded out of meal before i forget can i read a text that you song sent me okay yes please yes so i think as listeners this is the rudest thing i've said in like months um we see a very like soft loving side of you song no i'm fucking um but and you should be proud like as your producer he will he will lay down the law when he needs to yeah so i was very nervous about trying to find parking here and i was explaining like i didn't live far from here uh for like a few years and it's very difficult so i don't think i'll be able to find parking and then he responded i park there every week bitch no i said i park there every week lol i think the bitch was implied though like

and then the text afterwards was i'm sorry that was incredibly rude i'm pleasantly surprised by the amount of street parking every what the fuck it was awesome and he was so apologetic but i 100 deserved it it was very stupid to think that i knew mitch history better than you song felt terrible uh but it was amazing yeah felt so bad dark you song comes out from time to time so uh yeah let's well let's get to our song that's good yeah scary nightmare creature and dark you song the things i've seen in france your story was just about getting a chocolate croissant so we'll go around we'll say our closing arguments on del tacos beyond venue and give it a rating from zero to five clean forks straight out of mitch's mitch's dishwasher uh it's been running right

now you know the cycle is almost done yeah um can i okay before i say this next thing i need the support of everyone here at this table okay we'll see the meal went beyond my expectations this is not the support that i was asking about nick almost grabbed i was about to clap i didn't know what i stood so i failed no um it was and now i'm just scared no that was good okay okay that was good that was good um beyond my expectations uh it was really really good like that that epic california burrito oh my god like i want to go back for that burrito you want to go back back to cali cali um is that from labamba oh my god oh no you song is that from labamba guys i'm just kidding of course i know where that's from anyway um the

the uh the uh the tacos hard shell tacos not my favorite i'm a soft shell i'm i'm the human equivalent of a soft shell i i i don't know why like i saw the hard shell photos and we're like okay we should probably get those it seemed like the right way to do it it was just okay it was it was just okay are you are you in dark you song mode this is chaos you song that's what we're witnessing um one of his many forms um uh what else did we get the nachos pretty good uh no complaints there the jalapenos not too spicy i'm not that much of a heat seeker i'm very very sensitive to spice and so the but this was tolerable and the churros great i so much fun four forks wow wow four forks i want to go back i want to eat a full burrito because kevin and i

shared one wow a lot of fun wow great great review uh go ahead given mine isn't too different i was so pleasantly surprised by the cali burrito it was bigger than i thought the ingredients just seemed like fresher and so much more well prepared than at a taco bell or a different mexican fast food chain restaurant uh i was that alone was a five to me um wow the the tacos i have a similar feeling of like yeah not a huge hard shell but they weren't they definitely weren't bad i think when we were eating it i said like the burrito amazing the tacos they're fine um and the nachos definitely didn't blow my mind but i think we modified probably a lot of the better tasting stuff off of it yeah that would have would have definitely have helped um

i want to say i originally wanted to say four forks but as i say it out loud i now gravitate to i can do 3.75 right that's yeah three i mean i wish you wouldn't but you can okay then i'll do three and a half wow oh my god have a no your spike have a no what a fuck you i should say four like as a vegan i should be promoting as much like vegan option stuff as possible the bur uh is it crazy though that it's it is wild having a five wild and then have it is wild having something that's crazy uh that you song say it with pride the breed sorry go ahead i interrupt whisper to the god oh boy wait the floor is mine just to say that's crazy yes that's crazy there you go oh boy all right with with that performance i'm

back at a four okay hell yeah wow four uh all right i'll go and then i'll let mich close it out because i think my my score is going to be predictable so here was part of my experience with the the Santa Monica del taco which is an outstanding del taco i frequented all the time it's it's it's great in there uh unfortunately i walked in it smelled very bad i texted you song i think someone puked in this del taco smells awful and i saw the dude bopping up i mean i'm dining it anyway but it's unpleasant so i kind of stuck it out and i ate my meal there despite it smelling a lot like puke uh and then the guy the night the worker who i think it was maybe his first day because he was like kind of like sure he was he was like very you know like antsy and like

didn't know the other employees names and he like he was tasked with mopping it up like he apologized to me like like i'm like i'm sorry about the smell sir he was great the workers there were very good but it was just a it was an unfortunate situation that i think they couldn't control uh some fucking freak puked on the floor and then walked out of there uh but anyway so jesus so that was the only thing i was battling that said the food was great uh and i really enjoyed it and i get there beyond i've gotten there beyond tacos before i'll get it when i feel like i'll have whole days or or you know periods where i was just like i'm just eating vegetarian right now and so i'll do that as an indulgence and the beyond taco in particular i think is is outstanding they have a

lot of other things you can use to supplement their menu yeah my dishwasher finished okay that's good news i heard a beeping yeah um just in time just in time for the for to give out very exciting um also um that guy who just finished cleaning like mopping up puke yeah and then like after you left he like he was like i'm done and then he had to like mop up something even grosser like i fucking nutted under the table yeah that's what i was trying to say is that you nutted in there and he's like man i've had a rough day and then he apologized and then when you leave there's a big load of nut that he has to clean up a fucking blast we had a fucking booth at del taco like a fucking animal you love that place it doesn't

make me come oh boy we had a similar thing things do these days what happens when you're almost 40 oh Jesus you song are your parents gonna listen to this episode no absolutely not and optometrist is the the nofap the enemas that were mentioned at the start oh my god that's a great point we we haven't you record your intros a lot of the time here but after the episode usually do it separately i zone out on my phone over there and uh you're talking about fucking putting yogurt up in your fucking ass i didn't live read today because we're about to release this episode so yeah it's fucking that it's just insane enter well don't blame me blame uh john harvey kellogg um but anyway uh fair enough five forks wow

go ahead mitch well i'm gonna take a page out of you songs book here the beyond meat didn't meet my expectations whoa that was good that was showing you the love of support that i want it um i i was really excited because i think that that it would be fun to to go in and have a little splurge night at burger king or or or deltoid right and not and not feel like you're oh i'm not eating beef this is a nice little it's a fun treat i can't tell the difference for sure i'm so down for that but uh but this didn't really do it for me the eight layer burrito was close and i think that that's but then also like when i go to del taco i want to get like three or four things nick you know this to six to six three to six things right six or seven

a few things you need you need you need a you need a crew i know what you mean because anytime i order at del taco they always like assume it's to go and then i like no i'm i'll have it here because like i get so much stuff that they assume i'm getting it for my family or whatever and not just for one sad man by himself well and i i i have the same thing that's why i don't go in i just go through the drive-thru um i i appreciate them doing it and i think that it's great if it if it first of all if it helps vegans out if it helps people weeding vegetarian vegan that's great i think it's good for the environment i think that it's good that they're trying it um but it's not with this one it wasn't there yet for me i'm hoping that the i we're gonna try the

impossible we are and i'm hoping that that one like really works and tricks me um so for this stuff i i think i i go three and a half forks for hold on a second for this specific menu item for the beyond meat menu items i go three and a half forks still good yes that is still good for del taco itself five forks wow itself gets five four so like what should i give it here is my question uh give it five forks all right five five forks oh my god del taco remains in the golden plate club as it was villains previously no you guys aren't the villains four forks is an excellent score i mean del taco itself gets five forks yes of course del taco getting four forks for it's it's vegetarian from the perspective of a vegan is very and from you song is very good for me so

i'm very happy because i know you're a del taco skeptic so and i will say i was a shaky for but reflecting on the customer service was like so incredible she was so helpful that locks it in as a four wow we also had an interesting bathroom experience where like there was a line of people waiting and people kept knocking and then you guys were in there together yeah they were waiting for we were like brainstorming jokes we could tell yeah just saying compliments to each other but i like grabbed you and like pointed because the employee then like kind of slowly opened the door and i was like what if someone's like dead oh yeah and then she slowly opened the door and was like oops i think it just logged by itself and i was like ah yeah out of what you wanted to see a

dead person like they just pull a dead body out of the bathroom i mean that would have been insane i've been a good story for the show i should have just said it happened yeah you should you should allow i mean just like we would have asked you follow i you should have here well we'll edit that out and then you just say to say that you've there was a dead guy in there here we go and there was a dead guy and that actually happened wow that's crazy that was our review of del taco's beyond menu it's time for a segment we've got some beverages we're gonna decide if you should pour them down your throat it's another edition of drank or stank uh so we had to go vegan again here because of kevin's dietary thank you i just want to say beyond meat sounds kind of scary too it does

sound a little bit thing it sounds like beyond meat would have been like a fucking uh movie robert england started in like 1981 i like that or like a cool uh halloween mansion like oh yeah the beyond meat one um so chef kevin's got a little bit of a time crunch because we guys of our late start and he's got to go pick up his uh his lovely uh uh gf from the airport so we're going to speed through the segment and through our email here so that we have a tough time can i ask you a question for that our son hayes gonna have you guys on hollywood handbook you know i was wondering that i i'm scared i'm gonna let them offer yeah yeah we won't release this episode until they all right so that you can just delete this which we don't have an episode for thursday

we have to release this episode thank god i i guarantee that they will send a text thursday like wow they had kevin on like does this mean we have to have you sewing on oh boy and then that will be an honest conversation yeah that's you know kevin i think uh do you want to do it i don't think it'll be a supportive environment i honestly think it should be fine i i mean like it's it's like i you know uh oh if nothing else like it gives me something to talk to my therapist about next week you know yeah we have content is content yeah oh man he's coming out of that studio in a body bag all right let's taste test these juice what what do we have here you song okay so these are three flavors of juices from press juice three that all the names are like greens one

greens two uh we have right now greens two roots three and citrus two um so press juice three is this chain uh i i certainly know that it's a chain in los angeles i'm not actually not actually sure like how how uh white spread they are but they're like a it's like a boutique high end like very la type of a chain um but they're they're supposed to be very healthy so uh yeah let's let's destroy these bad boys i've gotten the citrus two and uh and and like they they do like a little like lemon cayenne it's like shots i've had those wellness shots and it feels like a dragon spin into my mouth like it was just so spicy i couldn't even believe how spicy it was it is very it is spicy um i remember the screen one it is like a putrid green color the citrus

two yeah this is this is like what the guy mopped up at the del taco basically these are some of the like uh favorites thank you on the menu is um wyger do you know is del taco just a west coast chain because you song and i were saying i haven't seen any in the midwest and he hasn't seen any on the east coast i don't know exactly what their territory is but they they are the they're in the top five i think they're the fifth largest of the uh mexican chain restaurants in the us and i think they are largely confined to west of the missus set bay they've tried to expand some other places and hasn't really worked out so for a green juice this one is not bad it's not bad i'm like you still get that grassy greening taste but it's it's a little bit sweet i think

for me stuff like this is so much better cold it makes it drinkable which this is like something like this at a lukewarm temperature i truly could not stomach right i don't think that's too controversial but i just this is so much easier to drink knowing that it's cold i think like some of the this one holds your hand because it has like sweet things in there like apple and and i guess lemon but like so many other green juices are just like they don't you're on your own right it tastes pretty bitter um so what is it that we're having this red one right now i gotta i gotta say this about the press juice the the really red color the little the little thing on the the front like they're they're a little they're a little mask of their

icon is it looks like a mosquito but it's a branch or something right i think it's a root it's a root it does look like a skeeter it looks like a skeeter boy that's a little scary uh i think me is the mosquito is scary i just read this this uh junji ito a fucking manga junji um that artist is blowing up yeah they're really popular because of their their horror like style and there's a whole like and it's all about like the this this this this town that goes mad because of spirals and there's a chapter on mosquitoes and it's fucking all this body horror and it's it's a night marriage that's my association yeah i can let it to you oh oh boy no don't do that he's gonna be he's not gonna sleep don't give him the scary manga read it like uh noon with the lights on

this one is this one's got a lot of ginger flavor going on yeah this one's kind of stringent i like i think i like it more i maybe like it more too actually we're talking about the roots three which is the apple lemon ginger and beat yeah it's it's so sweet this one it's it's intra it takes this tastes like a craft cocktail minus the spirit it does okay when we've got this last one which is this apple pineapple lemon and roots three this is my favorite one i've had this before i think this is delicious this is the citrus two you're talking about this yeah citrus two i get citrus two open this one has kind of a a apple cider kind of color to it this has a this is like a dehydrated pea like you go for a run and you didn't have enough water no that's not

that's fucking nasty are you look that that's in the if you feel like yeah that's unhealthy so unhealthy no that's what i'm saying it's like do you're dehydrated you gotta see dr mario this is like more than dehydrated this is insane yeah this is like you have a disease okay all right fine you have a disease and you went for a run kind of like a pineapple just boy this one is very pineapple-y this one this is nice i give myself a little more on this one i like this one is my favorite i really like pineapple drinks and so this one is a far first place for me yeah this just tastes like an indulgence this this is the least healthy one probably probably but hear me out do you know those days where you

like your body you haven't eaten a vegetable in like days and your body yeah what's wrong with you i the green juices will make you feel like you're doing something right yeah right i can see that yeah i think if i was gonna if we guys gonna drink or stank rank i i think they're all drinks i i'm not much of a juice uh juice guy but i think i would do i would do the the pineapple then the green uh then this ruby red one me too i'm the same i would do the green the pineapple and then the roots one is a stank i can't believe it how sweet it is oh my wow too sweet for you wow wait so you're going green yellow red green yellow red just like a stop light hashtag stop light have you guys heard of stoplight parties like in college where you were green

if you're single yellow if you're in in between and red if you're dating someone whoa what a shady thing to wear yellow at a party did you ever i was also that just sucks all together yeah um i was never invited to these but i saw that this is so sad but it's like the anything but clothes parties abc's abc's where it's like oh i'm in a trash bag oh i think it was just always like trash bags i think it was trash bags god that sucks i don't like these i don't like these either no one should be having sex yeah we're against that in general stop everyone close yourselves off stop being horny we got a lot in common with us hello i love front yeah party tips from the dough boys is like its own feed stop fucking stop jacking off and put some yogurt on your ass

that was drinker stank wait hold on a second yes for me the pine i think it was number one no i didn't i'm sorry citrus two is number one the red is number two the the what is it roots roots three yes um uh and then the green is the third one but i like all of them and they're they're all good drink no three hashtag no to stop late at all just it's just a very short of my colleagues that was drinkers stank just like a restaurant by your feedback let's open up the feedback this week's email comes to us from shane i shane writes i grew up as an actual socal surfer boy my mom and dad taught me just how to surf at a young age nevertheless i also grew up loving in and out and especially their strawberry shakes that was until i was nine years

old my mom bought me an in and out strawberry shake and when i drank about half of it my mom told me her and my dad were getting a divorce oh fuck i recently realized that i haven't had a strawberry shake since i am now 30 and i've come to terms with my parents divorce i was just wondering if there's a food and or drink that you cannot emotionally stomach wow oh my that's heavy yeah that's very heavy anything come to mind where it's just like the the not like not that you're allergic to it or not that you have an aversion but just the emotional connection to it is too powerful so i this isn't a particularly negative emotion and i don't mean this this is like a fuck you i just mean like it's the probably the strongest association so my parents and i

first moved from china i was about four years old and we were in san francisco for a year and then my mom and i i think we were just like on a walk or something we saw this kid eating string cheese like ripping off strands of string cheese and we were like holy shit like what is this that looks so fun and so delicious that kid's having the time of his life yeah and then we ate it and it was like the worst thing that we've ever had because cheese wasn't a part of our diet at all so we thought it was like the grossest thing in the world and my mom and i also talk about that it was just like what a fucking that kid got us good like oh god it was so yeah that's great that's that's yeah um i mean you still you're both really eat cheese no i still don't really eat

cheese i had like a little bit of string cheese renaissance i was like oh no this is good and you can just bite into it and you know the fucking like don't tell me what to do i'm just gonna bite into it yeah um and but then i'm like oh Jesus bad yeah what a this is a real string cheese incident for you this is crazy um i disagree with you and your mom about i love yeah string cheese i love it uh i think that it would like restaurants that i maybe use a frequent like with like someone i used to date or something sometimes but not there's not too much honestly for me i remember being really sick yeah and uh this is this is as close as i can get because like emotionally like there's places that like you know i remember like when my father passed away

like they i got so they gave me so much they gave us so much food yeah and i remember specifically that we got uh what were the what are like the what's like the fruit what are like the the fruit the like the the the fruit edible arrangements edible arrangements yeah we got so many edible arrangements i specifically remember like eating half chocolate pineapple pieces yeah but i don't know if like i think i would still like enjoy them if i got them i don't think that it turned like i think more so like a restaurant used to frequent like an ex-girlfriend or something would maybe bother me a little bit more but even still i think i could go through it the thing that i have is i remember uh my mom made lemon chicken and i was sick and i smelled lemon

chicken when i was sick and i don't like lemon and chicken mixed together i don't like lemon chicken that's the one for me because it like it was a weird thing where i like would like i like was throwing up sick i was like had the flu or whatever and then i just i smelled that i was over yeah like i've never i i eat it sometimes if it's like sir like you know if i'm with someone and they in someone sir let me say i'll eat it but i don't ever want it mish as you were like looking into the oven with your mom like no peeking you song the dark side once this episode ends it was it was checking if there were any oven fries going oh look at you like half committing to this you don't even know you're not even sure

like if it is oven fries i don't know that we recorded that bit well you said you know i was watching a date line the other night and it was about a cornell killer wow yes you songs alma mater yeah you songs alma mater so i just want to say i can keep my you know this killer the prelims season the tests oh boy oh boy oh boy uh yeah that's cornell you're saying yeah did the killer look like he just studied abroad in france um oh we probably should have talked about that that's so sad oh my god yeah that's pretty funny yeah um for me it's a it's a sad response i have some like light alcoholism spread throughout my family so it's like certain drinks right um that get offered like a specific beer brand or a specific like cocktail i'm just like oh yeah that kind of sucks um i mean i still

drink but sometimes certain alcohols bum me out just has an association i get what you i get what you mean yeah fun uplifting story to close out the show right this is probably old end so i'm kind of sad and full this movie is pretty familiar i'll be bummed out by every restaurant that we went to on doughboys after the show is over fair yeah i don't really have a good answer for shane because i don't really have um a lot of emotional connections uh so uh if you have a question or comment about the world chain restaurant see me let us know that's your full answer or leave us a voicemail at 830 go dough that's 8304636844 to get the doughboys double our weekly bonus episode join the golden or platinum play club at patreon.com slash doughboys and Mitch we're

about to go on the our feast coast tour which means what we did this last time and you forgot you're forgetting again send in some drops for each city boston philly dc uh new york city could not have said them in a more wrong order dc philly new york boston there you go yes send why don't we say some of our guests uh whatever i think we should we don't have it 100 percent we'll confirm confirm but i'm i thought i thought you meant me like you wanted me to say your tour dates uh dc for what what were they haven't we do want you to say them for our guests kevin say our dates chef kevin we can't say the we don't we don't let's let's let's sit on it because we don't know for sure you're so afraid of everything chef kevin but i'm not afraid of everything

chef kevin bartel you sung lu thank you guys so much for coming on thanks for having us tell me tell everyone again about maybe don't all right a podcast is called maybe don't it's a variety show with an opening segment and a closing segment um by the time this is out our last episode we uh we held a eulogy for our self-esteem while i played piano um and so and we just have like honest conversations and sometimes stupid i think if you like doughboys and hollywood handbook you'd really like it and if you don't like doughboys or our hollywood handbook you might like it as well yeah oh there you go i can't tell if that's insulting or not uh that's just casting a wide net i get it congrats guys on the show thank you so much you guys gave a lot of helpful advice in the early

days that i think kind of helps shape the show yeah it didn't take it we said don't do it yeah don't become like us i guess they're gonna ruin your life um thank you so much for having me on i can't believe i'm on the show it's a huge honor i'm so grateful it's super nice of you guys oh god bless you we're happy to have you i really try to fight it but why you weren't working i drove past your place you're just watching tv i'll do it for this episode of doughboys till next time for the artist formerly known as spoon mic michael i'm nick wyger happy eating see ya double this week on doughboys double writer and artist kate raff joins for an incredible edible egg episode we taste testers signature eggy rice and rank our dirty dozen of the best egg dishes get the doughboys double every

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