Doughboys - Dunkin’ Donuts with Joe Mande

Episode Date: July 27, 2017

Comedian Joe Mande (Parks and Rec, The Good Place) joins to discuss a culinary journey from Minneapolis to Boston to NYC to LA, and to review beloved New England coffee and pastry shop Dunkin’ Donuts. Joe and the ‘boys review a local Kentucky soda pop in another edition of Drank or Stank.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The City of Presidents That's a nickname giving to Quincy, Massachusetts. Yes, pronounced with a Z, even though it ends with a C-Y. Quincy is the home of two commanders-in-chief, the second president, John Adams, and the sixth, his son, John Quincy Adams. First settled back in 1625, this Boston suburb has had an impact on American history beyond its proximity to power. It boasted of the nation's first railway station, its first iron furnace, and one of the world's first airports. And it's also the town where a pastry and coffee chain was founded shortly after the Second World War. In 1948, William Rosenberg, who'd observed the popularity of donuts and coffee being sold on site to factory and construction workers, established an eatery called Open Kettle.

In 1950, Rosenberg renamed the business to its famous trademark that endures today, and five years later he began selling franchises as the chain grew across the eastern seaboard. With its distinct takes on caffeinated beverages, breakfast sandwiches, and sweet treats, it's become as tightly associated with Boston as Larry Bird and Mark Wahlberg, and then in the 2000s it began expanding across the United States and all over the globe. Now with over 11,000 stores in 36 countries, when measuring Quincy's modern global impact, the city of Presidents is perhaps now more accurately described as the city of Duncan. This week on Doughboys, Dunkin' Donuts.

Welcome to Doughboys, a podcast about chain restaurants, we're at productionferalaudio.com. I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host, Blobby Orr, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. I'm surprised you were kind of nice, you weren't mean to Quincy. I thought about it and I was like, why take a shot? Wow. Why take, I'll take the high road here, and you're part of the reason... You'll take the high road against the city? No, I mean, like, yeah, there's no reason to take a shot.

Quincy in Massachusetts has a lot of history to it. I feel like if you did an entry or a little cold read about Lakewood, California, you wouldn't choose to go harsh against it. I also feel like we should tell the listeners that there's a bunch of Quincy people here today listening. A bunch of your Quincy friends are in the apartment. That's true. I think it's going to affect our performance. I think you're going to be very self-conscious about it.

And also, I feel like you were afraid to get the shit beaten out of you. That's why you didn't say anything bad about it. Steve Oh and Raimondi were just going to pummel me. Yes, Steve Oh's here, Raimondi's here, Breslin's here, LD is here, Scoop is here. They're all here. Devon's here, Bubba Ray, Scotty Too Hotty, the professor. Those are wrestlers. Dr. Wiley.

Dr. Wiley is from Mega Man. He's not one of my childhood friends. The whole crew is here. Anyway, real quick, that roast was from Stephen Michael. If you've got a roast you'd like me to use on Mitch at the top of the show. RoastSpoonMan at gmail.com. Go ahead, Mitch. Anyways, howdy-how to Spoon Nation.

Today is going to be the day that I'm going to go number two. By now you should have found a place where you can poo. I believe Golden Corral is open. Maybe I'll go there and take a shit. And all the other spots I tried denied me. If I don't go real soon, I'll ruin my tidy whitey. And after all, chocolate wonderful. And it's like the chocolate wonderful.

Yes, yes, I get it. You had a liquidy bowel movement that resembled the chocolate wonderful. Quick turnaround. This show is bad. Why do we do this? That was edited together in a way that made it seem like we'd put work into that instead of kind of like doing it on the fly. We improvised that.

Which is why it was so bad. That was UCB. That was our UCB training. We did a lot of that with Matt Besser. We did a lot of song parodies. He'll never come back on the show. That was from Andrew Schwartz. That was from Andrew Schwartz at Entourage Slop.

It's his Twitter handle. I also have a story involving a Spoon Nation shirt that you don't have to read on the air, but I thought you might enjoy reading it. Okay. So you just can read it to yourself? I was wearing my Spoon Nation shirt at Universal Studios, and it was waiting in line with my friends to get on the Hogwarts Express. While waiting in line, we kept running into this little kid who kept slowly reading the

shirt out loud in a thick Scottish accent. Spoon Nation. Then, as we kept passing him more and more, one of his friends would join in with a slow reading out loud. Eventually, all of them would say it out loud as we passed them. Even after we finished the ride, we saw them sporadically throughout the day, and again, they would say it in a weird, slow way. It was bizarre and truly wonderful.

Maybe I should have kept that story to myself. Yeah, just read these in advance. You don't have to read them aloud for the first time. He seemed like a nice guy. He put a lot of work into putting this thing, whatever. That was well done. Hey, Mitch, how about we introduce our guest? Yes, he's funny.

Thankfully. From Parks and Recreation to the Good Place, his new special, Joe Mandy's Award-winning comedy special is now streaming on Netflix. Joe Mandy, hi, Joe. Hi. Welcome to the show. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

What a treat. Yes, this is a huge treat. You're one of the funniest guys around. Thank you. Yeah. Your special would have come out on Tuesday, I think. Yeah, on Tuesday. Yeah, two days ago.

I've seen it. It's very, very, very funny. It's hilarious. Thank you. Thank you. I can't wait for people to see it. Yeah, me too. I can't wait for anonymous assholes to tell me I'm not funny.

That's like a barrage of that is coming my way. We get that every week with this podcast. I think Raimondi just said that to me in person when I showed up. You should, you should mention also that it's not, it's a different Stevo. Oh yeah. It's not Stevo from Jackie. Right. Yeah.

Just to be clear. This isn't the guy who stables his anus together. Yeah. At least not on stage. He is one of my friends. Yeah. But he's not here right now. It's another Stevo.

Oh, it's a different Stevo. Yeah, it's a different Stevo. Got it. I met, I saw Stevo when he was starting stand up and one of his comments, he was like, like, stay playing your balls is like, like, this is like the scariest thing you could do. And I was like, oh, that's like this go to thing that he says now I feel like. That's his opener. That should be your clothes or anything.

It's not much you can do after that. Right. How do you heighten? I were like years ago on this awful fuel TV show I worked on. Everyone there was very nice with the show itself was not very good. And but the, but Stevo was on the show and they want to do a stunt where he kicked an audience member in the nuts, but it was actually a PA pretending to be the audience member wearing a cup.

But Stevo was insistent that he didn't want kicking the guy in the nuts to be his idea. Like it's like, it has to come from the audience member has to say, I want Stevo to kick me in the nuts, which was just such a weirdly specific request. Punching down. He doesn't want to. Yeah. He did psychologically. He didn't want to be like, I want to be the guy who punches this innocent guy in the

nuts. I want him to want it from me. Okay. Oh, very strange. What show did you work? What was this? This is the daily habit. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They changed daily to hamburger and now they, they serve up lots of people. So, so Joe, you are, I know you as a big NBA fan, a big fan of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Correct. Yeah.

Their prospects are looking good for this next season. Very excited. Yeah. Are you from Minnesota? What's the connection? I moved there when I was 10. Okay. So my formative years were spent in St. Paul, Minnesota.

A lot of juicy Lucy's. What? I don't think so. Isn't Juicy Lucy one of your Quincy friends? No. If he's chilling on the ottoman over there. Yeah. He seems chill.

I didn't, I just met him. Juicy Lucy is the, it's the many Minnesota cheeseburgers that are stuffed. The cheese is on the inside. I'm not familiar, but I know, but like, I didn't like, I didn't stray much out of like the Twin Cities. So if it's like a, I think it's right there. I think it's in one of the Twin Cities. Then I'm, then I'm, I don't know.

I'm a man. I could be like embarrassing myself right now. I feel like that's such a Minnesota thing. That's, that's pretty much all I did when I went to Minnesota for Dave Ferguson's wedding. Yeah. I went to, was it like in Minneapolis? It was, I think it was in Minneapolis. Yeah.

I went to Dave's. I should be even more specific. I didn't even leave St. Paul that much. Oh, all right. All right. So maybe this is like a specific place that I'm just, uh, we, we texted, I think I texted you when I was there about where to eat. Right.

There wasn't much time anyways. I think I heard what you said. We went to Katie Ferguson, Dave Ferguson's wife. So we went to her Turkey farm. Oh, that's fun. Dave married into a Turkey farm, Dave Ferguson. That's huge. Yeah.

You're going to save money on Thanksgiving. Yeah. There you go. They really do. Uh, did you like growing up in the Twin Cities? I loved it. Yeah. Yeah.

It's so cool. I mean, like I got out of there as soon as I could, but it's a great place. Yeah. Yeah. And you went to school in Boston. Yeah. And I've had my fair share of Dunkin Donuts. Oh boy.

You got it when you're over there. Um, actually to link those two things, I specifically remember when I was in high school, um, I went to a, uh, Timberwolves game. That was the Timberwolves versus the San Antonio Spurs. Okay. It's a big matchup. It was Kevin Garnett versus Tim Duncan. Oh hell yeah.

And my friend brought in a sign and I think about it to this day, a sign he had made within the Dunkin Donuts font that said, Dunkin's a donut. Calling Tim Duncan a donut? Yeah. And I, but it didn't, it was like, that's confusing. I was like, are you just trying to get into his head just out of pure confusion? Right. Wait, it's not that mean of an insult and you did a very good job to match the font and

colors. It just kind of looks like a Dunkin Donuts ad. Calling someone like, I've never even heard donut being used as an insult or a donut. It's a huge insult in Quincy. My friends are getting steamed on the couch right now, just hearing it tossed around so casually. Yeah. Uh, yeah.

Cause Duncan, the actual Duncan has Dunk in it, like just the normal thing. So that's actually more connected to basketball than changing Duncan to Duncan. Incorrect. I mean, he spelled it Duncan. You spelled it like Tim Duncan. Yeah. So it was very strange. That's so confusing.

And he put so much work into it. Right. It was, it's just, it was so, such so misguided, I guess. I got a question for you. Why the twin cities are there, were there twins ever? I mean, I know that there are cities that are close to each other. Yeah. I'm wondering if there's some people, like if there was a famous twin, it was twins

that they were named after. I know that there are two cities that are close to each other, but then should they just be called the close cities? Like Quinn, like Quincy and Boston are close. We're not the twin cities. It's yeah. I know what you're saying. It's, it's essentially one city split in half by the Mississippi River and for whatever

reason, they just were like, we're, we're, we're fam, we're family, we're twins. So there's nothing, there's no, okay. Yeah. Mitch, actually I've, I've, I got, I'm sorry, I apologize, you guys, I have Twitter open now, but the mayor of St. Paul and the mayor of Minneapolis just issued a joint statement. They heard your argument and they're now renamed the close cities. So and the baseball team has changed to the closest. I thought maybe it was named after the proclaimers or some famous twins.

The proclaimers that I would walk 500 miles, that they're from Minneapolis, St. Paul area. And that would give them the nickname of a, they were like, let's not name our cities for like 150 years in case something happens and the proclaimers came around. They're like, yeah, the twins. So Joe, wait. So as a basketball fan, this is a question, this is a common question we've, we've asked before in the podcast, but I'm always curious about people's answers. You go to a ball game, you go to, what's, what's the stadium there in Minneapolis?

The Target Center. You go to the Target Center. What kind of, what kind of things are you getting from the snack stand? What kind of, what kind of beverages, what kind of things to, to, to munch on? I was just there for the home opener last year and I, I remember the, the snack situation in the Target Center was not the best. I think I ended up getting like popcorn and I split like popcorn and nachos with my friend and beer.

So it sounds pretty standard. Pretty standard. It's pretty standard fare of the Target Center. When I'm in the Staples Center, I will go to Ludo Bert. Hell yeah. Yeah. I've very much, I hit up Ludo, I'd say most of the times I go there if I need a full meal.

I gotta say, yeah, go for it. Target Center, not a bad corporation to have the name of your stadium, right? Cause the hoop, naturally a target. It sounds kind of cool. Sure. I'm saying like it's much better than like whatever, like the AT&T Center or something like that. Target sounds kind of cool.

The King Arena or whatever it is. Yeah. My, my parents, when we first moved to Minnesota, they were like looking for like a house and they were in downtown Minneapolis and started raining and they went up to like the ticker counter of the Target Center and was like, well, can we buy an umbrella? Is that true? It's so embarrassing. Yeah.

That is true. And they're like, what are you talking about? And they were just like, oh, we thought this was a big target. I'm with your parents. They should have a target there. I agree. Like a level one feature, like a full size target within the, within the arena. I think you should not have to like, you know, as some of those, so you think that there

should be like shopping carts within the stadium? No, no, not like you can take them up and down the aisles and like, you know, section 114 or whatever. But like the idea that there would just be like that would be kind of a feature of that whole arena complex. They've got a full size target that takes a part of it and go in there. So I can be in the stands watching basketball game and have like a package of Haynes white under shirts.

If I want that, I mean, you laugh, but like, I mean, we're joking, but there are times where you're like, I have a headache. I wish there was a target or like, I have diarrhea. It would be great to get some amodium. Right. How many times came so sick? I guess I'm always sick. These are two things.

I always have those two things on me at all times as an amodium and you talking to your special a little bit about how you get to you have, do you have stomach issues? I have, uh, yeah. Irritable bowel syndrome. Right. Yeah. I got diagnosed with it this year. Did you really?

I didn't know that. I did. Man, why are you still doing this podcast? DRC. It's gonna be so bad for you. Multiple doctors have told me to stop doing the podcast. One just recently told me I have fatty liver, Nick. Right.

Oh, really? That sounds bad. Sounds like great sushi though. I would order that. What's it back at all? He said, I know he said I was a borderline fatty. You're borderline fatty. But what was your question, Joe?

About which type of IBS he has. There's two forms. There's diarrhea and constipation. I have diarrhea and constipation. Oh, man. It's like a, the combo baby. Yeah. I hate them both.

The yin and the yang. I feel like those would cancel each other out. Yeah, Nick. You're not a fucking doctor. No, apparently not. Is it stress induced? I think yes. I think a lot of it is stress induced.

And I guess I'm always stressed. I'm stressed for today. Why? I'm stressed. My friends are here. Yeah. You have to wrap Quincy Hart. They're waving.

I think they're enjoying themselves. They may leave at some point. Yeah. They were very excited to meet Weiger and I told them to temper their expectations. They came in and immediately awkwardly shuffled to this corner and set up behind my laptop. I told them I was like, Weiger loves Cars Land.

And then you came in and we were like, we're maybe going to go to Disney with, do you like Cars Land? Like, yeah, I love Cars Land. So it works. You met their expectations. Right. There you go.

So you were good. You were, Joe, when I first met you, you were good friends with, with, you went to school with Harris and Mookie and all those guys and Armin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. For a moment. Yeah. We were all in the same sketch group in college. Yeah. Because I did not, you were always this mysterious New York man to me. Right.

And then you came out here and I was like, this guy is great. Super funny. Like, after college, I moved to New York and Harris moved out here. And it was this strange thing where like, if anyone saw Harris do stand up, who lived in New York, they would come back and be like, you know,

Harris guy. And then the same thing would happen to him for New York. It was just like, people always like linked us up to, even if we were 3,000 miles away. You guys are, I think you're very linkable. I think,

I think that you're, you're, you're very funny in similar ways, which is, which is a good thing because that's very, both very funny. You're both very funny men. Yeah. I'm alive.

Yeah. I got that. No, no. Joe is alive. For those listening, they are not similar in that way. Yeah. Oh no.

Our podcast listeners are crying. You can't make that joke. Yeah. Well, I think I think we can. We can. It's been two years now. I just checked my watch. I think,

I think we can. I mentioned on the, we did that, we did a live show at UCB, the two of us on 420. And I mentioned that I'd had a dream that Harris's ghost was a guest on our podcast. And I woke up and I was like,

chilled. I was like very like, like I told, I told David Phillips about it. I was like, I felt like freaked out. You only told David Phillips about this. You never,

did you tell me this? I did. I told you that on stage. I think you were baked out of your mind, bro. Must have been some good shit, dude. Ooh, I was smoking the can can, buddy. You were chilled by that,

that was his ghost. It was weird. It was very strange to have like, cause just like the knowledge of like, Oh, like intellectually in that reality, like I knew that he would pass, but also that I was still interacting with him.

And then to wake up and be like, that's not what the world is. It was just like very jarring. Yeah. Was this your first dream? Paris was a big fan of leftovers. Yeah. I actually disagree with him.

Me too, fully. Well, I don't know why he loved them so much. Can't ask him now, but I don't know what his, the concept of leftovers, the concept of leftovers. He would,

I mean, he would order too much food. Yes. And then, which I think that's what he liked about it. And then stored the half of it to eat later. And then, and then throw it away.

Yeah. I mean, he liked when certain things congealed in a certain amount of time. Yeah. He, it was very specific. I hate leftover.

Really? A single thing. I feel like so often, you know what? It has to be the next day for me. I think I've said this on here. I have to eat the next day, or then I am not a fan.

I like leftovers. I guess I'm of two minds, because a lot of leftovers are just sort of like, it's like a blander, less enjoyable to eat version of the entree you got when it was piping hot and fresh. But there's certain things

that I think kind of change composition a little bit when they're refrigerated. And like, so like cold fried chicken I like, cold pizza is a classic one, everyone says that. But like, you know,

sometimes like a cold pasta dish with some teal cheese can be a lot of fun to eat. I'm sick of cold pizza. Cold pizza is not as good as hot pizza. Yeah, I always warm it up. Yeah. I'm fine with it.

I think it's a different experience, but I understand the idea, the argument behind warming it up. Do you eat it cold? I generally just eat it cold. Yeah. Really? It's partly out of laziness,

but it's partly because I'm like, oh, this is, I have hot pizza all the time. This is a different way to consume it. All right. I also too, I don't really end up with leftovers. It's just a plate.

Yeah. Hoverize it. Yeah. I think that's the right way to do it. Hey, you know what? You out there listening to this podcast, if you like the leftovers, have you like leftovers?

Use the hashtag Just in Thoreau. Oh, God. And if you, if you don't like leftovers, use the hashtag Just in Thoenow. Oh, boy.

I, I like this show leftovers more than the food leftovers. Yeah. I can see that. I think I like the show leftovers more than the food leftovers. And I don't really like it.

Oh, I don't like it that much. I like it. I like it. I like the food leftovers. And I don't really watch the show leftovers. So get on it, man. Yeah.

I get a watch. I've only heard the theme song, but I like the theme song. It's like a good score. So you've been, you've lived in New York, Joe. Uh-huh. You lived in Boston.

Yep. And you lived in LA. What's your favorite of the food? What's your favorite of the food cities? I mean, Don't throw up the Twin Cities. That's an off. That's on the table.

Oh, fine. The Twin Cities as well. But that's two in one. I feel like that's not fair. I lived in Madison, Wisconsin for a year. Okay. I think New York wins.

Food wins. Over LA? Yeah. Okay. What is it about New York? Uh, the, the food's just really good. And it's all like,

so, uh, attainable. And like, what I lived in Williamsburg, like things were just open all the time. Right. So it was just like, I would have these like late night decisions where I was like,

do I walk one block to get, um, like okay, falafel or six blocks to get like good falafel. And like, that's not even a thing here. Right. You know,

there's like four things open after 9 p.m. Why is that? It's very annoying. The sleepiest city. It's crazy. Why is it so sleepy here? I don't know if it's that sleep. I think you just have to seek out

these all night places a little bit. I'm not much of a night owl anymore, but when I was, I like, you can find the taco shops that are open. Yeah. Yeah. In terms of stuff in walking distance,

you're absolutely right. There's just not a lot of walking distance in a lot of the city. There's like five, four to five places that are open 24 hours. I feel like we're in New York. There's multiple places that are just always

open. They never shut. Yeah. I'm sure there's one. You don't believe me. You said four to five. I think in the city of Los Angeles, there's more than four or five,

24-hour options. But it's, you know that it's small. Like it's all, I feel like it's all diners. Versus New York, I don't think it holds up at all. Yeah.

I absolutely, I absolutely get what you're saying. To be the second biggest city in the country is a, it's a travesty. The, the, the,

the, the, the city of Los Angeles. I'm not sure how I am apparently. Oh, interesting. So I feel like maybe that will change something, but.

Yeah. I don't know. I mean like, cause I, it's also, I think so much of it is, and, and you know, certainly I think the ride sharing apps

have kind of changed this, but so much of it is, is like wrapped up in driving. And I feel like there's just the inherent conflict with driving and a thriving bar culture. Because you don't want to drive somewhere and,

and have to deal with parking and everything and then get blitz, and then have to try to figure out how to get home. Joe, you a fan of drunk driving. I like the thrill. No, you know,

I, I would tell people to take an Uber if you know you're going to drive, but in this city, in this city, everyone's just so isolated, they're in their own Ubers. And that's why

sometimes you feel compelled to have your Uber crash into another Uber. I am pitching crash to, crash with Ubers. Yeah, I don't like drunk driving. Crash one.

There is an actual crash and crash. There's multiple crashes and crash. That is like the like openings, the opening monologue, I believe is like this long thing about how like people crash into cars in LA just to like interact.

Oh God, that's fucking so stupid. That one, the best picture. Is crash bandicoot in crash? Yeah, I mean, it's a small part. You'd expect it to be bigger.

It kind of miss, he crashes into Sonic. They're both shaved to look more human, Mike. Yeah. No, the restaurant at Sonic. Right. He crashes into a Sonic and the two Sonic guys are there. And they kind of make a fun cameo

commenting on it. It's funny. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I haven't seen that in a long time, but I feel like that's one of the movies that like stand, like our standards are better than that. Right. Like it's not that great.

It sucks. I mean, that basically, I think crap, that was a whole thing. And it feels like, it feels so long ago, but it was like 10 years ago. But it was like 2005,

something like that. Something like that. Mid-2000s was when Crash came out. And, but the whole reason, I think it won Best Picture, the analysis, the time that I remember, was that because there was still too much homophobia among older Oscar voters

to vote for Brokeback Mountain, which was clearly a better movie. And so they did the director of Picture Split where they gave the Best Director at Anglia and then they gave the Best Picture to Crash, which is a piece of shit that does not hold up at all.

Oh man. Yeah. What are you going to do? When it comes to Crash, it's Dave Matthews Band for me. Then Bandicoot, then the movie. That's my rankings. I put Crash Band for Mega Man

above the movie. I think it also put the David Cronenberg Crash above the, the other Crash. Yeah, that one's weird. Yeah, I would put that above. Dave Matthews Band? Yeah.

And this video game character I've never heard of. I think the Cronenberg movie. Crash Band for Mega Man 2. Yeah. You're saying that like we should know it. No, I'm just saying that's where that's what the god is.

I vaguely know Mega Man 2. Yeah. But I don't really, Crash Man isn't like, does he have a big role in it? Crash Man, Flash Man, Quick Man.

Are these the different outfits? Yeah, they're different, the different robot masters you fight. Okay. He's on this autistic listing. Wood Man. He's doing every single robot from Mega Man.

Wood Man, Flame Man? There's a fire guy, but it's not Fire Man. He's in one. I think, oh boy, it's not Ice, it's the same thing.

It's not Ice Man, it's another Ice Guy, but he's got a different thing. Did I mention Air Man? Did I say Air Man yet? Yeah. Okay, Air Man. I know I said Wood Man.

They're cracking their knuckles. Metal Man. Metal Man. It's some sort of Ice Guy. I want to say it's, I want to say it's Are you listing every robot? Frost Man, maybe.

No, there's eight robot masters that you battle. You take their weapons in Mega Man style, then you go use them to fight for a while. Yes. I know how Mega Man works.

Well, you, you're acting totally baffled by me throwing out these different robot names. I didn't know Crash Man that well. I didn't know one of the eight. Yeah.

Crash Man, he kind of like through explosive little charges. You'd remember it if you see it. Yeah, I'm sure. Is that, was that Nintendo only? Yeah.

That was, that was an 8-bit NES. You were, you were a Sega Genesis guy. Did you have the Sega Master System or just the Genesis? My parents didn't, didn't fold until Genesis.

Wow. That was awesome though. I loved it. Man, I was so, we had a Super Nintendo and I love the Super Nintendo and looking back, it's the kind of thing of like,

why was I ever upset about having a Super Nintendo versus a Genesis, but my friend, my brother's friend had a Genesis and I thought it was so cool because it had like Joe Montana football

and Altered Beast and, what, oh, Golden Axe and they just like, there were, the games,

there was a time when the games before Nintendo started having more adult content, like it was a big thing when they had a censored version of Mortal Kombat and that was like a paradigm shift for them.

Yeah, it was a big thing. They got blood. Right, yeah. But they actually didn't even have blood, they had, they replaced the blood, they made it all like clear so it would look like

like sweat or spit, it was gross. Weird. Yeah, but anyway, but like, there was such, it was such like kind of like, it was the equivalent of Disney,

it was like the Disney system, it was all these like kids games, these colorful sort of bright things with the child, like I said, right, right Mitch, that's pretty fair to keep the Super Nintendo generation that way.

Yeah, I loved Super Nintendo. Yeah, me too. The two foes up the street and so I kind of thought of that as like the Italian system. I could see that. One of the things that I'm still embarrassed by is that

I could never beat Earthworm Jim. Oh, it's very hard. Yeah, there was one, there was the second to last level, I believe where you're in the submarine and you got to like go through this cave and if you hit the wall,

it cracks and I could never do it and I would like wake up early and play it and then like have to go to school and pause the game and then just think about it all day long at school and then like go home. Right. And then like a maniac

just could never beat it and would get like so angry like I would well up. I was just like full of fury, which is probably not healthy for like a nine year old. Every time I think of, anytime Earthworm Jim is brought up,

Weigert knows this, but I think of the time I walked in and my mom and dad were fucking each other. You know this, Nick. Yeah, I know this. When I was in middle school, this guy, Mr. Mannix,

he was a cop. He brought me home from central and my dad had been on a business trip and as he pulled up in front of my house, I got out of the car and like over the cop, like megaphone, it was him and his son.

He was like, Hey, have a good day, Mike or whatever. And I think that was just like enough moment. My mom and dad were home and I opened the door to my house and in the hallway at the top of the stairs,

I saw my dad run to the bathroom with a boner. You ready? You saw him explain why that reminds you of Earthworm Jim. So okay. I mean, it's a funny story. God, my mom's going to be so mad if I,

well, she doesn't listen to this. Anyways, I was like, I'm going to go downstairs and I'm going to play Earthworm Jim. And I was like, no, you should go upstairs and talk to mom. And like figure out what's going on.

Cause at the time I like also didn't want to have, I was weird. I was like 11 or 12. So I went upstairs and I went into the bedroom and I was like, I was like, Hey, what's going on?

And she was like, nothing. Your dad's just taken a shower and my mom's dress was inside out and on backwards. And she was, and she was breathing heavy. So then I went downstairs

and played Earthworm Jim, but it's always been the connection of my head to the stage. You see. Were you, but yeah, I think you told me before this was, you were upset because you thought they were having another kid.

I thought they were having another kid. Yeah. Oh, I see. So I didn't want another kid, which is very strange. I realized that's very strange. Yeah. That intellectually you put that together

and that's what you assumed was happening. I should go into the bedroom and talk this out. Yeah, talk this out and figure out what this is. Yikes. Oh boy.

Well, they didn't. It worked. They didn't have another kid. Yeah. That's great. They probably never had sex again after that. Yeah, most likely.

I feel like I always ruined, because when I was younger, I slept in between them for a while when I was in elementary school. And I'm like, man, that must have sucked that I was like sleeping in between. That sucks.

Right. It must have been awful. You never think of that because I would have bad dreams and I'd like go into my parents' room and my dad would be like mad at me. And then I just never thought like, oh, you never think about it.

Like you're like cockblocking your dad. But I guess that happens. Yeah. Did you ever wake up to see your like your dad getting a blowjob above your head? God damn it. No.

You know, I thought we're... That never happened. You never opened your eyes and like saw that right in front of your face. No, Mitch. That insane experience never happened to me once. Yeah, I mean, either.

But I like, I feel the same way where I'm like, oh, they must have been very upset. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird. I had a similar thing. I can't be for sure.

I don't know what I saw. Like I went upstairs to like ask my parents so I could borrow their car and there was something going on. I just shut the door and then went to see American Beauty. So American Beauty is my earthworm gym. Yes, okay.

Where I was sitting there the whole time like I don't know what that was. It sticks with you forever, right? Yeah. It's very, it's, you never get over it. Right. Or I mean, I should have gotten over it, but I haven't.

Anyway, speaking of Quincy. Hey, you know, that makes me, in college once... In cops. In college once my roommate caught, he like, he didn't see anything but he caught me jerking off. And then when I went out to like,

he walked into the other room and was like, whoa. And then he like, and then when I walked out of the room, at the end of the back of the living room, he was playing Chrono Cross. So I bet his... Chrono Cross is his earthworm gym.

That's his association. Yeah. Do you remember what you were jerking off to? Chrono Cross. Earthworm gym. Just YouTubes or someone crushing. Earthworm gym. Or Forex.

Speaking of cops in Quincy, we're talking about Dunkin' Donuts. Dunkin' Donuts. So yeah, so you, you go to school in Boston, you moved to New York afterwards. Am I correct on the chronology? Yes.

So is that the, I assume that was where your Dunkin' Donuts experience started? Yeah. I ate so much. When you live in Boston proper, I feel like you just, you eat it at least four or five times a week.

Hell yeah. I don't know if you could take a poll, but it's everywhere. Do the Quincy people agree with that? What's everyone saying over there? Yeah, they're kind of nodding. They're kind of nodding. Vermontie says seven times a week,

coffee every day. And then the rest of them are kind of zoned out. Everyone's on their phones, it looks like. I think it's just us, Steve O put his earbuds in and start listening to a better podcast. He's listening to WTF. No guest episode.

Man, we must be doing bad. Anyway. So you were, so four to five times a week. I ate so many donuts in that period of time. Right. It's mad. It's crazy to think about.

Cause this is my, cause I didn't come to Dunkin Donuts. I grew up out here and I don't think I had Dunkin Donuts until I went to New York for the first time when I was like 25. Really? There was no like franchise out here?

No, they didn't have them. They didn't have them out here until. Was that like your first trip when you went to New York at 25? Yeah. I don't think I went to the East Coast before that. Jesus Christ. We didn't travel a lot.

My family, well, we did travel a lot, but my family was, my dad was very frugal and so we'd take road trips and so we just drove all over California, drove across the Western US, Arizona, Utah, the big four that, that meet at the four corners, you know,

hitting up all those states. But yeah, no, there's my first time and so I was very excited to try it when I went there and my experience with Dunkin Donuts is, I'm not trying to impugn the chain, but I was surprised by, I would like, I got, I went there was like, okay, I got to get some donuts

and then I talked to people who had Dunkin Donuts they're like, no, don't get the donuts. You get like the breakfast sandwiches and like the, like the, it feels like a lot of Dunkin Donuts partisans are not as on board with their donut selection. I keep looking, I keep looking to the Quincy people

because I do agree with that in some ways, but I don't know, there's been a lot of changes to Dunkin Donuts over the years. Right, that is true. It's changed a lot. I distinctly remember being on the subway in New York, I don't know how long ago,

but seeing an ad, they were releasing like a tuna fish sandwich and I was just like, the world's gone insane. Right. I was going to order fish at Dunkin Donuts and I think it's just kind of like, no one even questions it now. No one cares anymore.

I was there today and they have a chicken salad croissant on the menu and I almost order it just out of morbid curiosity, but I was like, I just don't think this is what this place is going to be good at. Do places have to do that? Do they have to do that to keep up? I don't know either,

but my issue with it is, I mean, I don't know if I should get into my whole thing with Dunkin Donuts yet because I feel like it's long and boring. It's too emotional. It is very emotional. Like,

when Dunkin Donuts, I mean, it is such a part of your life over there and I don't mean, that's not in a pathetic way. I feel like every morning, you know, going to my dad, with my dad to school every morning, he'd get a coffee and like...

Huge boner. That's the only boner I ever saw him have. That's just that one. Just to be clear. So you don't have evidence that any others ever existed? No, and he was trying. Yeah, we, you know, every morning he would get his coffee.

I remember he put his coffee on top of the car one time. We drove all the way to school and it stayed up there. Wow. It was a great story. It was a great story. That's rad. What a great story that was. Just walking down to Dunkin Donuts every morning,

and I remember when they first got bagels, that was a huge thing. And the bagels at that place have changed like crazy. When they first started, they were like, they felt like almost artisan bagels. They were doughy and bigger and out. They've kind of like... They're terrible.

They're not that great anymore. I still like the taste of them, but the problem is they're so hard. Yeah, I mean, I'm a bagel snob, but they're rough. It feels like wherever there's a Dunkin Donuts, there's a better place to get bagels. I've had their bagels. Actually, I think I've only had their bagels

in the context of a sandwich. I think I was at a Dunkin Donuts once, and I texted you what I should get, and I think you recommended a bagel sandwich that I got. Yeah. You know what? I've gone back and forth. Originally, it was a croissant sandwich.

Then I went to bagels. But their bagels were soft. Their bagels hardened over time. Right. But... Maybe they just made them all at once. And it's just the same bagels. They're just...

That's completely not true. Dunkin Donuts would never... They do still make stuff fresh every day, but I think they get stuff... What is it now? They get stuff shipped fresh every day? Yeah. I think there's an Amazon-type shipping center

where they make all the donuts and shit in one central place and then ship them out. I think you're right. And I think that they get those... I think they maybe get those delivered daily, but are you getting fresh donuts? Well, yeah. Because I've seen that there's the one...

The one in Santa Monica near where I live, which was, I think, the first one in L.A. County. And that was... I was there very early once, and I saw that they were unloading a truck outside that just had racks of donuts wrapped in plastic. So I was like, yeah. I think that...

Because some of these stores have such a small footprint, they don't even have the... It looks like they have full baking facilities. Yeah. It's kind of disappointing because a lot of these... From a freshness standpoint, because I think a lot of these mom-and-pop donut shops that you'll run into are obviously

just making everything every morning. And they may be using a kit or something, but they're still relatively freshly prepared. Yeah. I don't know. They're using a kid. I think... Wait, did you say...

Do you think I said kid? Yeah. Sorry, I said kit. Oh, kit. No, they got a kid in the bag. They're breaking child labor laws and these donut places. It was such a...

I thought it was such a weird thing to say. No, I think a lot of these places, they get baking supplies from... Some of these ones, they have basically... I've seen not a how it's made, but something like a how it's made about that before, that they get a lot of these things, these ingredients shipped to them

and they just kind of have formulas to put these donuts together. Which I feel like Dugganon, when it first started, it's about Fred, you know? He said, time to make the donuts. Right. It was the famous Fred. The 1980s ad campaign that's made...

Maybe some of our audience wasn't alive to witness, but it was a big thing. It was on par with where's the beef, I feel like, in that generation. Yeah. Did it become... Was it before where's the beef, or was it just where's the beef copycat?

It's the same general timeframe. Yeah. There's no way of knowing. Yeah, shit. Do you want me to look... I can look it up. I just feel like it's like, which of those came first?

All right, well, look it up. It's kind of the more real one in my mind. You guys, fam, I'll try to get some closure on this. Where's the beef? You think they're on this... I think that's clearly the winner. That's a... Yeah, it's pretty old.

It's endured more. I mean, it's more famous. But to me in Massachusetts, I feel like time to make the doughnuts. Right. Because that's like shit that parents would say, like they'd wake you up and by time to make the doughnuts, you're like, that looks like it wasn't...

Right. Fun or anything, but I just... Yeah, my parents would say, where's the beef? I grew up in New Mexico. All right, here's the answer. Where's the beef? Campaign began in 1984.

Okay. Time to make the doughnuts, featuring Fred the baker. Come on. 1981. Nice. It's the original. Where's the beef?

My Quincy friends are going wild. Wow. That fucking rip off. Where's the beef? I'm glad that lady's dead. You're glad? Do you think Fred the baker is still alive? Yeah.

Disney? Induers. He's down at the original Quincy Dunkin' Donuts. He's got his kid making the doughnuts. He died December 24th, 2005. What happened? Was he beaten to death in Quincy? Complications from diabetes.

Is that true? Yeah. Oh boy. Too good at doughnuts. That would have been... I wonder if he was in the montage of people that they'd lost at the same Oscars where Crash won Best Picture. The timeline would line up.

Is it really? It's a year like Crash won? It would have been the same year. Wow. What a shitty year that is. We lost Fred. Right. Crash won.

What year was it? 2005. Not to mention George W. Bush started his second term. Oh my God. That's the worst year of the thousands. 2005 was pretty bad. Wasn't Hurricane Katrina strike in 2005? God, that was awful.

I graduated college. My party days were over. Same. Yeah, me too. Damn. Oof. Anyway, Fred is dead. That's very sad.

Oh, by the way, I fucked up. There wasn't a Frost Man. The one I was thinking of was Bubble Man. I got the rest right, but Bubble Man I missed. I should have remembered it because you used the bubble lead to defeat Dr. Wiley at the very end. Why is this... You gotta push this shit out of your mind, man.

What else should I put in there? Anything. Anything else. What's gonna serve me at this point in my life? Now you know which commercial came first. Put that in there. Alright, I got that in there. I'll forget quick, man.

I'll remember that Michael Vales' time to make the Donuts campaign started in 1981. Was he...that's not the same guy as the...that's...the Micro Machines guy was a different guy. Oh, he was much different. Okay. In a lot of different ways. Have you ever seen the video of the Micro Machines guy? Like, they did like a 60 minutes type profile of him, like, at his peak. Yeah.

And he's just really smug about being the fastest talking human. And they, like, test him on camera to see if he was, like, the real deal. And they gave him the lyrics to Bad by Michael Jackson, which had just come out. Which is just the most repetitive. He was like, I'm bad. I'm bad. You know what you know? I'm bad.

I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad.

I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad. I'm bad.

I'm bad. I'm bad! Oh, really? We were a Hot Wheels family. You were a Hot Wheels family. Oh, absolutely. So no micro machines. We had some Match-Box cards, but overall we were Hot Wheels.

I got rid of all that stuff once the Nintendo and Sega came on. I didn't care about any toy anymore. It was over. It kind of all died. Yeah. I guess I kinda did too. I guess those kind of killed our imaginations. Jeff, Dutton and I were talking recently.

We both got Power Ranger dolls. And we were like, were we too old? Yeah, you might have been. Definitely too old. We were trying to do the math for it. It was around the same time you confronted your parents about not having another kid holding your doll. I think maybe I got rid of a lot of shit that year. Maybe I grew up a little bit.

But look, I brought my ex-girlfriend to Dunkin' Donuts, the first Dunkin' Donuts. I went there every weekend. I brought her there as like, this is like a place in Quincy. The very first one. Which is on, what is it on? Is that Southern Audrey? Yeah, Southern Audrey. By stop, by stop and shop still, right?

It's still a stop and shop. Okay, everyone's nodding. I have to get confirmation. Remonddy is giving us the wrap it up gesture. Speaking of Remonddy, I had a great moment with Remonddy there. We stayed up all night, one night. And I went into a Dunkin' Donuts and I was gonna buy him like a coffee or something. Remonddy went outside and he got in my car.

And then he like took the wheel and he was like making like, I'm a big goof face. And like very quietly I was like, you're in the wrong car. He was in some random, it was an old lady, right? It was some old woman's car. Was she in it? No, but she came, did she open the door Remonddy? She opened the door and was like, what are you doing? Wow.

Were they similar looking cars? They were in the same, it was like both Ford Escorts, like red Ford Escorts. So they were auto. But I think I remember that her seat had like beads over it. That had like a bit. I was like, you should have known them. My seat didn't have beads. I didn't like have like a, like a bead strap on.

Right. But maybe you thought I did. That's great. The beads in car, that's like a different sort of guy. That's like a very distinct sort of person. Yeah. No, for sure. Yeah.

That's not. That technology is seeming to go away. Yeah. You don't see beads on seats much anymore. Yeah. We're going to bring it back. Can't bring it back. Yeah.

Why not? Mitch, you should take out that hall door and put, just put beads over the door frame. Remember when people do that? Do you think that would that, I kind of do, I kind of genuinely do think that is cool. The beat, like a bead doorway. Yeah. I think a bead doorway is kind of cool. Do it.

I don't know. My landlord would get mad if I took a door off. Yeah, probably. I don't even know how to do it. There's a lot of issues. There's also a Celtics hoop that I. You can't put. Yeah.

They can't hang on any. Where else would that go? It can't hang on the beads. Right. And I use it so often. Yeah. I have one at work that I use all day long. Do you really?

And I'm sure everyone hates me, but I can't just like sit. Yes. For 10 hours a day. So I just like dunk a bat, like a Nerf basketball, like a seven year old boy. Yeah. All day long. I feel like that's very, I feel like you need something like that. You have a standing desk, Wiger.

Oh, I got to stay. I got a real janky standing desk at work at my job that that's about to end. But the, it's like a, I bought it off of Amazon and it's like made of cardboard. And it looks so shitty. It looks like the, like the fort that like a bad dad would make for his kid. It's just like, it looks, it's just like a, it's like gray cardboard that has one layer for my keyboard and another layer for me to put my laptop. I saw that recently.

I forgot to tell you, Jack and I went into your office when we weren't there. We hid your keyboard in a draw. Did you really? Yeah. We put it in a drawer. Draw a drawer. I can tell what you said the first time. Yeah.

What's a draw? We put it in your drawer. And I forgot to tell you that we did that to you. Did you remember a day where your keyboard was missing? I think I just, I just like, I was like, where's what? I just opened the drawer. It was like, oh, I must have put it there. I was like, oh, I mean a very weak prank.

Yeah. Micro prank. Micro prank. Yeah. We moved your mouse pad three quarters of an inch to the right. Oh, oops. I thought you were going to kick out of that. We just forgot to tell you about that.

No. Because the thing is they didn't even like think of it. I just assumed that I'd done it or that maybe like cleaning crew had done it or something. I don't know. Speaking of Stevo's, we thought we were a couple of jackasses moving stuff around. We thought we would, we mess with you and you get all discombobulated, but I guess not. Sorry. Yeah.

That was more of a, that was more of a Jamie Kennedy experiment style prank. Not really a classic jackass goof. Look, I love, you know, I'm partial to Dunkin Donuts. There's a lot of great memories that the food has changed over the years. One of my Quincy friends said that the coffee has gone downhill. Interesting. I've always, I always stand by the coffee. So should we start talking about the food?

Let's get into it. Okay. I got, I had to get Postmates delivery today. And I got a delivery of, I got a medium coffee with extra cream and extra sugar. That's not, I usually just drink my coffee black now, but since we were going to Dunkin Donuts, that's what I was going to do. Cause everyone says the coffee is like candy-ish, right? Is that, that's how, does that, how people still feel about them?

Candy-ish? Yeah. It tastes like, if you get cream and sugar, it's very, it's... Oh, if you get a sweetened, yeah. I think it's the most... I mean, the way they want to prepare it is like a milkshake. Yes. Right.

You know what I mean? Which is great. It's great. What do you say? A regular coffee is cream and sugar, right? Okay. It's not extra, but it's just cream and sugar. Right.

Like the, that's like the base. Like it took me, it took me years to figure out that like I prefer just coffee with a little milk that you have to like emphasize milk, just a tiny bit of milk. Yeah. You have to like keep saying it over and over until you're like kind of rude. Otherwise they're just going to dump cream and sugar in your thing. Right. They'll pour it heavy over there.

Yeah. And I got extra cream, extra sugar. Like that's a creamy, that's a creamy coffee. Yeah. I got a medium extra cream, extra sugar, iced coffee. It's, I love, I love, I love their coffees. I still stand by it. It's one of the only coffees that doesn't make me jittery.

And Joe as a, as a IBS, a fellow IBS guy and a anxiety filled man. Yeah. I feel like that, that coffee like gets me just the right amount of caffeine that, that I'm good for the day. Like usually a small, I actually think a medium was too much. Interesting. Yeah. I'm, I feel like a mute, my parents are giving me coffee when I was like eight years old

or something. Wow. Such a little asshole in the morning. They're just like, wake up. So I feel like a mute, I know coffee does anything to me. I, Do you think Danganonis is weak coffee or are you just kind of like, that's whatever. My, it's the most like inconsistent place in terms of coffee for me.

It's like some of the best coffee I've had, like most enjoyable coffee has been Danganonis. And then some of the worst thing, like liquid I've ever put in my mouth have been coffee from Danganonis. Like it's so erratic. It's crazy. I think Danganonis can be inconsistent. I think that is one of its big flaws is you can get inconsistent. You can get burnt coffee from there.

Yeah. I kind of think that's part of the experience though. It's, it's, you're always kind of rolling the dice. Yeah. Sure. It's kind of like the, I mean, I think for me, and I think, I think it's way better than Subway, but I think you can use it, use Subway as a point of comparison terms is something that's just so sprawling with so many different franchises that there's a lot of variation between

individual locations. Certainly. But there's also like, there's a good, there's like, I remember I lived in, when I lived in Roxbury, like there was a good one that was further away and there was like a bad one, like in a, you know, pinch, I would go to that one. I think that that's every, I think everyone knows of, and I, I'll look to my Quincy friends, there's a good dunkins and a bad dunkins, right? Everywhere.

I think everyone has the one that they're like, that's the bad dunkins and that's the good dunkins. It can change. There can be, there can be swings, I feel like. I got to say though, today, it knocked everything out of the park. Wow. Got to say the same thing. I had a great experience today.

I had a great experience. It was so good. Which, which, so which location did you get here? I know you got to deliver it. I got mine from the, and I would have, I would have gone. Yeah. I had something to do today, but, but Hollywood, I went to the Hollywood Boulevard. And it's, I got myself a bacon, egg, and cheese on a croissant.

And I got the hash browns. I got a medium extra cream, extra sugar, iced coffee, and I got myself a blueberry muffin with the side of butter. Every single thing was so good. Every, each one of them like did exactly what I wanted to. I split that blueberry muffin in two. I put butter on it and I put it in the microwave and it was so fucking good. It was so good.

Well, they warm it up for you there. If you ask them to warm up a muffin. Yeah. I think they might put it through that fucking toaster though. That weird toaster. Yeah. The weird little toaster thing. Oh yeah.

They have some, they have regulations in certain cities that where they're like, they can't have a microwave or something, right? Or they can't toast things. Oh, is that what it is? I feel like so many Dunkin Donuts have a microwave because they microwave those eggs. Oh, okay. So almost all of them have some sort of heat machine. Maybe it's a toaster.

I feel like there's something that where it's like, there's some small appliance that in certain cities, it might even be Boston. They, like a lot of businesses don't have them because of fire code. Right. It seems like, yeah, the toaster is like needlessly complicated. Like it's like a, it looks like a microwave, but it just toasts. It's gigantic. It's huge.

It is like the biggest toaster. I feel like it's the probably one of the, like there's some company that makes that just for Dunkin Donuts and nowhere, nowhere else. It's, it's gigantically big. Right. I also got some Munchkins, a mix of chocolate, honey dipped, or what is it? Just glazed, glazed, and then, and, and jelly. And they were great too.

You get the Munchkins box still in front of you. The Munchkin box is right here in front of me. The bad boys still left in there? Yeah, there are. Clean it out. Yeah. Do you want to go for it? Munchkins?

We can get some Munchkins. Yeah, there's, they were, they were great. So Joe has. I mean, they've been sitting down for a while, but. As Mitch is distributing these, which, which location did you hit up? The Atwater Village location. Okay. Is that the one that's on?

What, what street is it on? Lindale, I believe. Yeah. Okay. So I ended up going to the same one. Okay. But is that the one you've, have you hit up that location before? I've been there once or twice before, um, for like a quick ice coffee.

It's next to a place that I, I drink a lot of coffee, but I've, I've grown to dislike um, cold brew. Right. I don't like cold brew. It makes me crazy. It makes me crazy. And it, me, I mean, brother in arms immediately have to, I have to shit. Like I can't, I'll take like three sips and I'm like, I gotta get out of here.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Um, so like just a regular predictable ice coffee. Why can a coffee make you think you're going insane? It is true. That's cold brew makes me think I'm going insane. Yeah. I used to do, that used to be like a, it took me a while to figure out what was going on.

Cause it was just like, Oh, after lunch, I'll have a cold brew. And you'll wake up with like a handgun in your hand. We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back with more dough boys. Welcome back to dough boys. We're here with Joe Mandy talking Dunkin Donuts. So you, you go to the, the at water location. Same one I went to this afternoon.

Yeah. Talk us through your order, Joe. Uh, I went there bright and early in the morning. I got a, uh, I, I normally don't, I, I've been burned in the past with the, the bagels, not a fan of the bagels. So, but I was like, you know what? I want to get some savory and some sweet. Good call.

So I got a similar to you a croissant with egg and cheese. Nice. No meat. Yeah. I still, I don't eat much meat anymore. And it's just like, if I do, it's not going to be from a Dunkin Donuts. Yeah. Why, why do you have, you restrained your meat consumption?

Uh, I mean, it's embarrassing. I, I, there was an article about a guy who bought a pig in England. I think like he thought it was going to be a little pig and it turned out to be a big pig and he loves it. And it made an impact on me. Right. And I don't know. I've read, I've read all those books and it's like, I'll eat steak like once every couple

months. Yeah. That's by those books. You mean like the Charlotte web books? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All the chilled books I'm capable of reading, um, that have like animal protagonists.

Uh, yeah. I don't know. I, I've just, I've just reeled it in a bit. Right. I don't, I don't think it's embarrassing. Right. Yeah. Why are you almost, remember when you almost did it for like eight months?

I was, I did, I didn't eat meat for a stretch. I didn't eat meat or fish for like about six months, just shy at six months. And it was challenging, but not like, I settled into it pretty quickly. It's not that hard. I mean, it's not that hard. I think I would be, I'm more like a pescatarian, like a pesco wings. Sure. You're a big fan of wing.

I like wing. Like I'm not going to not eat wings if I'm at like a restaurant that specializes in wings, but you're kind of reducing your impact individually. Yeah. Oh my God. I knew this is the weird thing. When you were not eating meat or fish, you still, every day you go out and you'd kill an animal or fish.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Just in cold blood, just to show him who's boss. Yeah. I get that. Yeah. Um, good for you.

I think, I think that's how, how was that sandwich even without the meat? It was so good. It was. I honestly will say I was blown away and like I had, I also got a bunch of donuts. So I was like, I got to cool it with this delicious sandwich because I got all these donuts to eat. Oh yeah. It was great.

It was like, it was just, I couldn't believe, I was like, I'm going to eat this all the time now. It was very troublesome actually to open that box up. I was just like, Oh no. I feel like what you, you hit on something too of this. It is such a, it's so, it's so great to be like, I'm going to get a savory and a sweet. It really is. It's great to be like, I'm going to have a sandwich and a donut and it's.

So indulgent. It was great. It's very indulgent, but it's, it's, it's awesome. I got so much stuff and it was $11. Yeah. I was going to make a similar remark on like the, the, I got five items and the total, I was like, Oh, I'm going to pay this is going to be a little pricey and it was $12. I was like, Oh, this is totally reasonable for an insane amount of food for one man.

And yeah. And what you were speaking, what you guys were speaking to a second ago was kind of the thing I learned after a number of Duncan experiences, the idea of, you know, if you just get a donut by itself, it's pretty aggressively sweet, but if you get that plus a savory treat, then you got that nice contrast, that nice sort of balance. And then for me, a unsweetened coffee, it's right down the middle. Right. I can.

Yeah. Cleanse my palate. You got a black coffee? You got a black coffee? I got a coffee with a little milk. A little milk. Okay. It was great.

My order. The coffee was great. My muffin was great. My sandwich was great. Even the hash browns, which are like artificial. I don't even know if it does anyone from Quincy like the hash browns or there's one thumb up. There's, but so, so I feel like a lot of people don't like them.

They're kind of artificial. They were good. They were good. Right. Everything was good. I don't love the form factor of the, the Duncan hash browns. How are they like little nuggets? They're like little nuggets.

Yes. They're like little nuggets. What do you mean? What don't you like about that? Like I like like a bigger piece. Like I like like a more substantial hash brown. I feel like the McDonald's hash brown is the way I like it. That's a good shape.

Yeah. But I mean, like, okay, fine. I don't think they're like, I just don't like the nugget way of doing it. I mean, I don't even think that they're great. I like, I don't think that they're usually that great, but they knocked them out of the park today. Right. They're kind of like a little garlicky or something.

Yeah. They got flavor to them. Yeah. They've got a little bit. Like I almost detected like a little bell pepper. Like they've got like a little bit of like a little, a little something to it. Like you got some as well. I got some.

Yeah. So here's my order. And one thing I will say, because you guys were talking about coffee a second ago, I was in New York for work a couple of years ago. Yeah. A couple of years ago at this point. And I, you know, I, they put, they put my hotel for a week. And so, and I was just kind of on my own for some meals.

And I found myself going to Dunkin Donuts for breakfast every single day, like six days in a row, just went to Dunkin Donuts first thing in the morning. And I really, really like their coffee. And the one thing about it is I scalded my mouth at first. The first few times I got it before learning that it just comes out so insanely hot that you kind of have to let it cool down a little bit. Because I get my coffee black. I don't, I don't like anything in it.

And so if you get it black, it's just, it's just boiling. But I do really like their coffee. I feel like it's, it's, it's just, you know, I, do you guys imagine some, because this is the issue is maybe I haven't been there enough times to notice it. But today my order was I got myself a small black coffee. I also got a small blue raspberry Kool-Ada, which is a, I think they're, I can't, I don't think they have caffeine. I think they're just like sort of an icy shake sort of concept.

Yeah, they're kind of a smoothie. I used to get strawberry Kool-Ada's back in the day. The blue raspberry looked very, looked very much like a blue icy or blue slurpee. I also got from a food standpoint, the deluxe grilled cheese with bacon. So something, one of the, something from their lunch menu. Okay. And hash browns on the side. And then I got a chocolate drizzled strawberry croissant donut.

They're about two years late to the Cronut game now, but they've got these croissant donuts. I agree with you guys. It was, it was great. It was great. You got some crazy items. I thought you were going to be sad. Yeah, you went, you swung for the fences. No, I thought I really enjoyed it.

Like for me, the small blue raspberry Kool-Ada was, was a little aggressively sweet, but that's, I know that's the thing for me. I just don't like overly sweet drinks. Like just sucking down sugar for me. It's just, it's too much. And that's what you're craving though. When I used to get those strawberry Kool-Ada's and that's like what I liked as a child. Right.

It hit the spot. Kool-Ada's been around. They've been around for a while, right? I mean, I think they've had like different like incarnations, but there used to be, there used to be a, there used to be a strawberry Kool-Ada, a fruit Kool-Ada. There was always, coffee Kool-Ada was the first one where it was kind of like a, like a frosty coffee drink. Do you think they still like introduce things first to the Quincy market?

Like the OGs, the day ones? They tell, they inform us about every change they're making. Yeah. Mitch, you get a text, right? Yeah. I'm like, I want a text change. Like an Amber or whatever. Fred, Fred is on there.

He doesn't respond anymore. Yeah. I, I, I was shocked and I'm shocked that, because you, that's weird. That's some weird stuff. Right. Well, the thing is I'd had their, the, the deluxe grilled cheese comes on their sort of their Texas toast. So I don't know whatever it is.

That sort of substantial bread, which I've had some negative experiences with before, but I knew I liked their croissant. So I was like, I'm not getting another croissant thing because I know where, I know what that is. I'm going to, I'm going to try something else. And the bread was really good this time. Like it was like kind of, it had the crispy edges, but kind of like that soft interior that you kind of like from that, from a good version of that.

The cheese was really good. It was two kinds of cheese melted in there. And then like there was just enough bacon and it was kind of that, you know, that, that bacon that's like got a little crisp food, but also got a little chew to it, got a little gristle to it. It was like very satisfying. Yeah. It was great.

And hash browns, you know, they're not my favorite, but I think they were fine. I thought they were, they were well done. The chocolate drizzled strawberry croissant donut, one of the better donuts I've ever had from Duncan. Wow. I've had some before that are kind of like meh and, you know, some of the, some of the classics are not, you know, my favorite execution of it, I feel like you can get better ones at a mom and pop donut shop.

So having something a little more exotic, I was skeptical, but the croissant texture was really good. It was strawberry filled, had like a nice sort of, you know, strawberry artificial tasting, but a good version of that strawberry jam inside of it. The chocolate drizzle, which I thought was going to overwhelm it was just nice and complimentary. It was, it was a desserty donut. It was the kind of thing that feels like an indulgence. But it was really substantial.

And I just, I ate the whole thing, even though I wasn't planning on it because it was just so tasty. And you know what? Here's the thing about Dunkin Donuts. I think it's one of the better places for dunkin your donut. Couldn't agree more. I was going to say the same thing. I got six donuts, like a sample platter, weirdly at that point in the morning, there were no

jelly filled. I'm not a jelly filled fan. I thought for the sake of the podcast, I was going to eat one. Didn't have it, but I'm not going to, I don't, I'm not going to eat a Boston cream. I'm sorry if that. No, I actually, I will say, even though it is Boston's donut, I'm not a huge Boston cream fan. I like, I do like jelly donuts.

Right. When I, when I used to go to Dunkin Donuts all the time, I would always do a chocolate frosted. I would do it. Just the chocolate frosted donut. What would I think? That's a plain raised donut with chocolate frosting. Yeah.

With chocolate frosted. So I got one of those with sprinkles. Nice. Great. Glazed of plain sugar, coconut, butternut. Still don't know what a butternut is supposed to taste like, but that's a classic. And I tried the blueberry, which was probably the bottom of the list for me. Is that like a jelly, but with blueberry?

No, no. It's like a blueberry muffin type batter made into and it's like a cake form. I've had that one before. I have similar experience. Yeah. I've had very good. Dunkin, I think Dunkin Donuts are like serviceable donuts and like the best like artisan donut place.

Uh-huh. It's like what? 15% better than a Dunkin Donuts. Like I don't think you can like improve a donut that much more than the me. I kind of like, you know, I've been to like voodoo donuts and stuff like that. I'm just like, like, I'll go there a lot. I'm just like, these are like really sweet or too complicated. I'm just like, yeah, why am I like pretending I like lavender or whatever?

Sure. Just give me a fucking donut. Right. I'm just too exotic with the flavors. It's less exciting. Yeah. I get that point. I have had some really, there's this one more artisan place sidecar donuts where it's

outrageously expensive for a donut. But I've had. Where is that place? There's one, there's one in Santa Monica, but I think it originated in Orange County or maybe Portland. I don't know. But that place I've had some, that's a more artisan place where I've had some luck with just like they've got like a very basic like butter and salt or like a vanilla frosted

that's like just a really, really good execution of it. But it is like you're paying for 50 for a single donut, which is kind of ridiculous. 20% better. Yeah. I mean, I like it. And to me, it can justify the expense in certain circumstances, but I get your point. I feel like with donuts, it's always like how close were they to coming out of the kitchen or whatever.

Or the fulfillment center. The fulfillment. Yeah. But I was going to say like the, I got one that just had sort of like cinnamon sugar on it and it was kind of dry, but perfect for dipping. There you go. There you go. I dunked the fuck out of that donut and it was a beautiful experience.

Man, it's so fun to dunk a donut. I didn't dunk. Now I feel like a loser. I didn't dunk. Oh, I had an iced coffee. So I guess it's kind of not as good. I can't really dunk in an iced coffee. I prefer a hot coffee.

Right. I always get hot coffee. But since it was kind of a hot summer day, I thought I would do a night, I really fucked that up. But hey, oh, I want to say with that iced coffee, I want to say something about Dunkin' Donuts. This might sound insane. They got great ice, man.

The ice lasts. The ice lasts? The ice lasts? The ice lasts a really long time. Quincy people are nodding. At least Devo is. The ice lasts real. I think that's more of a praise for your air conditioner.

Right. I got my, I, hold on. I got my iced coffee 1245. Uh huh. Okay. I was drinking this iced coffee. I went down to an audition. I went down to this audition.

I got my iced coffee in the car and I came back and at about 4pm, there was still ice in it. But that's like scientifically, that's not like the ice. They got good ice. Maybe it's the cups. I don't know. They got good cup. Technology.

Yeah. They got good ice technology. Okay. And I mean, back in Boston, they don't do this out here, but they put styrofoam cups around your iced coffee cup. So they stay for, they, the ice lasts for a long time. And then like a little fur jacket outside of the styrofoam. And I want to say the hot, it stays hot for a long time too, Nick.

Yeah. You've heard your mouth. Yeah. They're, they're cups. I feel like their hot copies does stay hot. I haven't noticed anything in particular with the ice, but maybe they have a similar insulation to their cups, but they got some sort of ice machine in the ice, right? They might have found a compound that keeps it ice, icier.

The ice is good. All right. I mean, I didn't have an iced coffee, so I can't say it wrong. Get a nice coffee this week. Tell me. I'll do it tomorrow. I'm going every day now. That's, I can't, I get really, today was, I opening or I really was, I mean, because

a coffee, because of that coffee. Oh yeah. And you're, and you're, you're a boss, you were in Boston for a while. So was that, did it, did it not become a habit when you were in Boston? No, I drank coffee, I drank coffee from there was a Dunkin Donuts in the lobby of Emerson College. I went there every day. So it just kind of ended when you got out, out here.

Well, here's the thing. And I think maybe this speaks to why we all had such pleasant experiences is that because they're franchised that the people in LA, they're, they're trailblazers. So they, they have to make, they have to take care of the product. And they have to have everyone leave with these experiences that we all share today. I think, I think, I think you're a hundred percent right. I was like, it takes a bit longer than what I remembered. And it's because they're like making sure things are right.

Like there are places in Boston where they'll just like throw a donut your face. And like, you know, like, like it's just, they don't care. They're just trying to get you out of there. I feel like you're a hundred. It feels like almost like when you go into one, it feels like going into a shake shack or something. It feels very like, clean, right?

Yeah. All right. All right. Calm down. It's not that extreme. It's not. I think there's a little bit more corporate oversight. And I think that I think Joe's right that the probably the people establishing out here, there are people there. Yeah, I'm not saying that it's as good as it is.

But I mean, it's not, it's not a burger place for fuck's sake. But it is pristine in compare. Like there were, there are places, there are Dunkin Donuts in New York and Boston that like I felt horrible just walking. I was like, I'm going to catch a disease in here. Yeah. They're, they're filled with trash in the wintertime. You got like salt on the floor and stuff. They get, they get fucked up.

They get really fucked up. Yeah. Our buddy, our buddy, David Phillips. DP was just telling us about he was in like a very nice coffee shop and a little girl. Oh, yeah. She dropped her pants and just took a shit on the floor. And her parents were like, so like, like what, like what they, it took them a second to process it and be like, did our daughter do that? Like I just, it's so. He told me about that too.

And then like he kept saying that no one knew what was going on. And I was like, what did he look like? And he was like, it looked weird. That's so crazy. I didn't no one knew what it, what it even was. Yeah. I heard you've been going back to that coffee shop every day since the incident. Okay. Want to watch a small girl have a bowel movement.

I just heard that you go back every day and you walk in with your fingers crossed raised in the camera crew. Okay. That's interesting. I didn't, I guess I have been to some very small, like compact Dunkin Donuts in New York City. They were kind of mad houses. So I guess I can kind of see what you're saying.

I just think that like it they can only benefit from people leaving like with a good experience, right? You know, because like they I think they're also like they feel some sort of like responsibility, like we are the Los Angeles representatives of the like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, right? Like if they screw up, then there's not going to be any other. That might be it.

Yeah, right. It is a big because there is also an I think they can use a point they can point to like say Krispy Kreme, which wildly overexpanded in the early 2000s in the crash era. And they were like they had a crash of their own because they had too many locations. They were just too sprawling. And some of those were like, I would rather go to a Dunkin Donuts

10 times out of 10 over Krispy Kreme. I think I agree with you. I can't believe it took this long either. Like I used to before I moved out here, I would come, you know, two or three times a year and just drive around and just be like, there are all these like fucked up weird little doughnut shops everywhere. Like, why isn't there a good, like reliable, predictable doughnut shop? Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of shops that are like individually owned.

A lot of Asian immigrants, I feel like, run doughnut shops out here. Like that's a big place. I drive like when I drive home, I see a lot that is doughnuts and Chinese food. Right. Yeah, that's that's always such a strange. That's such a strange combo. Yeah. Yeah. But I wouldn't be, you know what? I might try some low main from Dunkin Donuts on that lunch menu. It'll be on there soon enough, I feel like.

Guys, let's get to our final thoughts on Dunkin Donuts. So, Joe, this is how this will work. We'll go around the table. We sort of give our closing argument, if you will, on our lifetimes of experiences at this particular chain and then give us a rating on the order of one to five. So we're we're it's our lifetime experience. Yeah, just today.

You can weigh out, you can weigh everything in your fourth rating. Do you mind if I just go first? Yeah, let's get this over with. You know what I'm going to say. Anyways, look, America runs on Dunkin's. I run on Dunkin's like a lot of people will say like, oh, I have so many fond memories. It is a part of my life.

It's a part of me, just like Quincy is a part of me, the city that I was founded in. I it but it is like it's like with with with my mom or something, when she has like memories of like a diner or something growing up. There were so many memories of this place going there every single day and being in there and I loved it. And I like, you know, like on the weekends, my dad would get like an onion bagel with cream cheese

and chocolate milk, a Nesquik chocolate milk for me and a chocolate frosted. And these are happy days and they're happy memories. And I know that it's food, but I love I love Dunkin Donuts. I love it. It's a part of me. Right. It's Quincy is a part of me. And and and I know that over the years that it's become, you know, it's more processed, it's gone downhill a little bit. The bagels could be better.

I think that they should go back to their old recipe for bagels, try to make them just what's what's the word I'm looking for, more toothsome. And that was not the word I was looking for. Fluffy, more what's not like a gourmet, like a better mouth feel. Oh, God, fucking damn it. Like not like a more gourmet gourmet version. OK, Jew, you want to say Jew.

I want to make their bagels more jewelry. I want that I want to do it. Chewy, chewy bagels. But like, I feel like they should go back to kind of their fluffier, nicer bagels. It just they just feel overly processed. I love the doughnuts and I agree with you that the munchkins knocked it out of the park today.

Sometimes you'll get some and they'll just taste like they were frozen dough. And that was something that I did not experience growing up. And and and but sometimes it knocks out of the park today in California. I get from my experience, it really knocks it out of the park. It's my favorite coffee. I'd rather get a doughnut from there than almost anywhere else. It's just easier. I love I genuinely love their breakfast sandwiches.

And the muffin even knocked it out of the park today. It's a part of me. I love Quincy. I love Dung and Donuts. It's five forks, five forks from the Spoon Man. And if you don't rank it five forks, me and my Quincy friends will kick the shit out of you. Mitch, I'm ready to die.

Joe, go ahead, your thoughts. I had a great experience today. Today, five forks. No question. OK. But to, you know, widen the scope a bit in my lifetime, I've had great doughnuts, great coffee, and some of truly the worst coffee I've ever had in my life. Like, like, how dare you, like, almost to the point

I should write a letter to the manager. But then it's like, well, then who do I like? Do I find out who the manager is? Right. At this highway, Duncan. You know, I never I've never written a single letter. You're supposed to leave a note on Fred's grave. Yeah, I mean, there are times where I wanted to piss on Fred's grave. I've had terrible, terrible bagels.

Stale doughnuts. Oh, boy. But like I said, I think that's part of the experience. Like, you never quite know what you're going to get. You kind of have a sense when you walk in, just based on how dirty the floor is, how the experience is going to go. So I think I just have to give it. I'm sorry, I have to give it three fours just because I've had one and five experiences that like if I combine, but no, you know, can I do half?

Yeah, I would say today's experience not knocked it up to like three and a half. And if I keep going, which I plan to, this could turn into a five forks establishment for me. I will forget the past. I loved my experience today. I'm like on the verge of tears. I need you to keep going. I want you to keep going. But you hit on a thing that, I mean, there shouldn't be good

dunkins and bad dunkins, but there are, I mean, and out here, it seems like they have a lot of good ones. But, you know, on the East Coast, I think the quality can be all over the place. But there's so many of them. I worry that that if they keep expanding on the West Coast, we're going to start experiencing. Yeah, right. And I have some bad ones. I'm terrified. Me too. I really like Dunkin Donuts.

I'm not going to give it five forks. OK, so, you know, if you want to have one of your Quincy friends do me like Mark Wahlberg at the end of the departed, I'm ready for in real life or real life. Yeah, you want to have me be blind me in one eye. That was the plan. Anyways, before all this happened, he actually did not blind that guy.

No, he was I. Which references of course not not to not to stand up for Mark Wahlberg. But he did not blind. They interviewed the guy later and he was like, no, I was already blind in one eye. So Mark Wahlberg didn't blind didn't take it as I eat up a blind blind. He'd have a blind man. And it was racially motivated for no reason.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he sucks. Yeah. I heard a story. I forgot who told me the story. I heard a story recently that the person someone's driving their car here in LA and they had like a Darwin, you know, that Darwin fish. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like a kind of cute joke on the Jesus fish. Yeah. And also in this car,

started like honking behind this person on the freeway and like pulled up next to him and it was Mark Wahlberg. Oh, wow. And he was like, just furious about the Darwin fish and was like pointing at the person. So I'm like, angrily crossing himself. That's crazy. That's insane. You know, I like that's insane. It's just any time he sees any Darwin fish, he's like he's got to like angrily cross himself.

You know, I saw him on the Fox lot and I drove by him in my Boston Red Sox jacket and he said, hey, nice jacket. And I liked him. All right. Yeah. You yell out. I was also doing the right. You had your swing around incense. I had a similar experience, you know, to what you were talking about with Wahlberg, that car story of a Jesus fish on my car. And this guy pulls up next to me.

He's like cursing at me and flipping me off. Neil deGrasse Tyson. He's like, that shit's not real, buddy. I was like, leave me alone. Neil deGrasse Tyson sucks. He was like, BB eight with skid uncontrollably on the surface of Jakku. The shut up nerd. And I ran him off the road.

You killed him. I killed him. Yeah. God, you said God will protect me. Yeah, I said God will protect me. And I was right. I faced no consequences. Where was I? I really like Dunkin Donuts. Here's the thing. I am always confused by their ordering system.

I am baffled because you like order things and they give you a number, but they don't shout out your number. They shout out what your order is. They give you like hot coffee at the register, but they give you cold drinks over at the other the side dispensary area. Can I add to that? Yes, I bought six donuts today. And then I wanted to get and then I paid. And then a second person was like picking up my donuts for me.

And then I wanted like a maple bar, right? But that was extra. So then I was like, what do I do now? I already paid like, let me. Yeah, it's so it's all fucked up. I want that fancy donut. Exactly. They would have gotten more money out of you. Yeah. It's so that's their their their ordering system always confuses me today.

They like they have my breakfast sandwich over at one end of the store. My my donut they forgot to give to me. So I had to go back to the register to get it. That's all you guys have to get yourselves in order. But that said, they have my favorite favorite fast food breakfast sandwiches. And I would even put that like even over McDonald's. I'd rather go get a Dunkin Donuts breakfast sandwich

than like a McDonald's sausage muffin. I would say Dunkin Donuts ones don't make me as like I feel sick when I eat McDonald's breakfast. I love egg muffins, but they do make me feel sick. Yeah, I really like the Dunkin Donuts breakfast thing. I don't think their donuts are their best. I think they're you can get better donuts or donuts on par elsewhere. But I do think overall it's a very, very

good chain that's really good at what it does, which is coffee and breakfast treats. And for that reason, because it excels in what it's trying to do, I feel like it accomplishes the main goal of a chain and I give it four forks. So push yours up to four for it's four. Yeah, hey, welcome to the Golden Plate Club Dunkin Donuts. I should mention you were holding a knife. I'm fine. It's four, man. Chill out, dude.

I think that you ate that munchkin and you really liked it. And you're right. I just eat a machine while you're talking and I looked at my it's really good. Dunkin is great. Quincy should be very proud. We are proud and we have other things, too, like Steve Oh and Ramon. The city of presidents, it's like, well, if it's two people who are related, that's not that right. Hey, if they haven't had a president since like 1829, it's like,

well, it's to who are like related. What about President Scoop in a few years? Hey, I tell you, Scoop didn't couldn't do any worse than that orange buffoon we have in there now. President Hairpiece, Jesus Christ. The come and are in chief. What? Yeah, so what's I think Brendan said, Wolf, I think that was Brendan.

Oh, I was sorry. Those are engineers. Our engineer, Brendan, wasn't even one of my Quincy friends. No, with all the podcasts he records, those are the biggest whiffs he's ever heard so much so that he had to vocalize. Oh, what a boy. Well, that was Dunkin Donuts. Welcome to Golden Plate Club.

And you know what? I'm going to put Quincy in the Platinum Plate Club. The city? Yes. I can't do that. Why not? They give it a give it a fucking some different Johnson to present. By the way, you said, John, you said, John, you said Quincy. You pronounce it the right way.

Then you said, John Quincy Adams. I thought it was John Quincy. It's John Quincy. Oh, that's all the Quincy sounds for God's sakes. Is he named after the city? Yeah. Well, that's stupid. But he's not. But it's Joe. Who is it? It's Abigail.

It's Abigail Adams father. Who is the? Who is it? Colonel John Quincy. Steve, oh, fuck your facts. I don't care about those facts. But wait, that's the family, though. That's his.

John Quincy Adams got his name from that family, correct? Because Abigail Adams was from that family. Oh, whatever. Who gives a shit? Anyways, all right. Well, thank you. Now I'm getting mad at my friends. You're going to beat them up. No, I can't.

That's the bad part. They'll beat me up easily. Weigar is getting a. Joe, do you want to tell us a little bit about your special? Do you have anything else to say about it? No, watch it. It's on Netflix. Yeah. Hey, you know what? What would be if you're going to have you're a married man,

and you're going to have a nice Netflix and chill night? What are you going to eat with your special? What do you think it's the ideal food to have with your special? You know, I got Duncan on the mind. Get some Duncan. Get some Duncan. Even if it's late at night. It's a late night, Duncan.

I, my friend, I had a friend who. Oh, thank you. I had a friend in college who, like everyone sort of just took care of and felt bad for. And he had this deal with the neighborhood Dunkin Donuts that at the end of the night, they would just give him all the unsold donuts. Is that true?

He would constantly like walk in with like a garbage bag full of like just so many donuts that you're like, this is disgusting. They're all just like mixed together. I feel like that would be fun if you had like a party or something. You could toss them out. It was like so frequent that it just became like a nuisance. It's like we have ants now because of all your fucking doughnuts. He was bringing trash to your house.

Literally bringing trash. That is that he is an idiot for continuing to get them all the time. I feel like it happened a lot. Yeah. Well, we got we got a little. All right. So the answer to the food to eat with your special is done. I like pizza.

I like pizza. I love pizza. Does it not hurt your stomach? I hurts my stomach a lot. I mean, I just, you know, what's your oh, sorry. I have a regimen. I mean, I take fiber every day. That helps me.

Yes. Like immensely. I get it. I was in high school. It was very bad. And I took an experimental medicine at the University of Minnesota to treat my IBS and it worked like a miracle drug. But then my eyes started to pop out of their sockets.

Jesus Christ. I just stopped. I couldn't I had like a hard time blinking. Jesus Christ. Like the Guinness Book of World Records lady. Yeah, a lot like that. So then I had to stop taking it. That's insane.

Yeah. It was like it was literally making you shit your brains out. Yeah. Yeah. What's what's your go to quickly? What's your go to LA pizza? What's your go to pizza chain in LA? Desano pizza.

It's great. It's so good. And then fast food. It's embarrassing when like when I'm on the road doing stand up but getting my credit card receipt and just seeing how many times I get like Domino's when I'm stoned. It's it's like a yeah, it's a problem. Yeah, I I stand by Domino's.

Domino's a great chain pizza. The really very good hand sauce one that's almost like that's similar to Pizza Hut is very good. It's a very good thing. I like ThinCrust myself. ThinCrust is also great. I think I think like their regular crust is like maybe the bottom of my favorites. Yeah.

For yeah. Anyways, Nick. So we got a regular segment coming up. Yeah, we're going to decide if this beverage is worth pouring down your throat. This is Drank or Stank. A listener sent this in and let's see if I have his name still in front of us. You know what? I think I don't.

I fucked up. We mentioned it on a previous on a previous double episode. So whoever you are, whoever you are. Thank you very retweet. Yeah, entourage scrimps. Yeah, it might be entourage scrimps, entourage scrimps. So we've got some ale eight one. And this is from Kentucky.

This is a local Kentucky soda that a lot of people are pretty crazy about. It says above it, a late one. So it's supposed to be like a late. A late one. A late one. Like a late one. A late one. Oh, I get it.

You're thinking about it like a vanity plate. Yes. I know it's it's a possibility. Maybe it's supposed to be kind of like a vanity plate. I think that the description just says ale eight. Yeah, it says a late and there's a tiny one there. And then it says a late one. Yeah, so it's like 80 one, but it's like an eight one and a late one.

A late one, a late one. It's kind of a stretch, honestly. It's strange. Yeah, I think it's just called a late. All right. So this is I'm guessing this is a ginger ale type drink. Yeah, from that would sort of would glean from the ingredient list. Carbonated water, real sugar, corn, sweetener,

glycerin, ginger and then natural artificial flavoring, the hint of citrus caffeine. Hmm. Wow. That's different than I expected. It's kind of like a hybrid ginger ale and cola. I'd say that's kind of almost seven up gold. If you guys remember seven up gold when they had us when they had a cola concept. Hmm.

Take another sip here. It is very drinkable. Like it goes down real smooth. It's a like the. It tastes like ginger beer with a lot of like seven up right. I agree with that. Like ginger ale never tastes like ginger. This does.

Yeah, you're right. It tastes it tastes more like ginger beer than it tastes like ginger ale. But it's not as it's not as hard as a ginger. Like it's not. Yeah. Are you much of a soda drinker, Joe? I have tried to scale back. Well, it's a lot like my my meat intake.

I'm just trying to change. Yeah, good for you. I love soda and it's very it's a hard thing to give up these. We have these strawberry berries, which by the way, I like a lot. I don't know how you felt about it. I liked it. I actually maybe next week, you can try my seltzer I brought in. Yes, we should have tried that.

No, they were warm. Oh, they're warm. Actually, they probably could have cooled down if I put them in the fridge. It's fine. Just I shouldn't even be here for it. I don't want to sway you. Right. He brought some New York seltzers seltzers. Oh, that's great. Which are are great.

I like them a lot. Right. This is their new. Like it's like it's like zero calorie. Wow. It's their like their LaCroix. Can we get from? Can we hear from you what you think about it? I think it's really good. Damn, we got to say that I have like a whole legal issue with LaCroix.

Right. I can't really. I know I jump in too. But I think it's like, yeah, I think it's really good. I think they keep sending it to me. And I feel like I'm sort of like out of guilt, becoming like a brand ambassador for them. Do they send it to you because of your previous sparring? I think so. I think they were like, we want we want you to like help us like like we we they think I I've been mistreated by LaCroix.

Right. They know you're an influencer of some sort. They know I like water. So yeah, I can say I'll say that LaCroix is too like dry for me. I don't like I don't love LaCroix either. I like the Perrier. I went to a Perrier over LaCroix. Yeah, me too. Yeah.

Strut and Sprout, strawberry, Perrier. Big thumbs up. Anyway, back to A-L-8 one, back to A-L-8 one. I feel like this is like like my like my Nana would drink this with like booze. Yes, I this would be great with whiskey. Yeah, whiskey. Yeah. Yeah, it feels like it feels like a great, great mixer.

Is it from Kentucky, right? Yeah, there we go. There. Yeah, that's it. He has nailed it. What I drink this on its own is the question, which I don't know the answer to. I will say established 1926. So this seems like this is one of those things that's been around for, you know, this is like a this is probably a local favorite there. Yeah.

And I think I can see why I'm not. This is not something that I would necessarily seek out. But if presented to me, I think I would enjoy it. And for that reason, I'm going to give this a drink. I think it's I think it's well crafted and I think it's tasty. And it's a little distinct from what you might get elsewhere. All right, Joe, how about your drink or steak? I would drink this with booze drink.

Yeah, drink. Prens with booze. I wouldn't. You know, I would have. I would enjoy one of these every so often, even without booze just once in a while. And then with booze, I think it would be a great mixer. Drank as well.

Should we ask the crowd? Oh, we got we we we brought them over to the Quincy crowd. What do you get, Steve, a drink or a steak? Right. Drinks. Scoop. You know, drink. Drank or a steak. You said drink.

Huh. Drank with booze. So drink. OK, Ramadi, drink. LD. Stank. Hmm. Resilence. Stank.

You song. Do you try it? Drank. All right, I think what about a Yoshi? What do you think? Yoshi says, Stank. How about Samus? Oh, no. Samus gives it a drink.

Friedman. Friedman's got a stank. Stank from Friedman. Fucks didn't fuck. Fucks didn't gives it a drink. Gannon. Gannon's also given it a stank. Why are you naming all my Quincy friends?

Nintendo characters. It's a Scotty Too Hotty is giving it a drink. Those were two spheres of knowledge. Nintendo characters and wrestlers. WCW references from 1999. Mario. Waluigi. Man, I wish you had a friend named Waluigi.

That'd be awesome. We could name one a lot Waluigi. Everyone, we were up at Shankton's wedding this week and we were wearing, I was wearing the shirt that says Shankton and I feel like a Ramadi, right? That says a bunch of people's names. No, no Ramadi. It says, it says, fucks didn't on it.

Yeah, it was a good time. You know what? I'll review Shankton's wedding later. We can end the podcast now. That's a premium episode. Yeah, let's go to fork writing to Shankton's wedding. Just like a restaurant via your feedback, let's open up the feedback.

Today's email comes to us from Sean Sucki Mai. Sean writes, after hearing the Doe Boys double episode with the U-Song, the Biggie Feedbag, the sausage debate reminded me of an article I read calling for sausage to be the national food of the United States. Given the popularity of cased meats, hot dogs, bratwurst, pepperoni, et cetera,

should the U.S. claim a foreign-created food item as our national food? If not sausages, what would you folks, including today's guest, Joe, suggest? How about fried chicken? Fuck Roger Goodell and Go Lakers. So, interesting set of values there. Yeah, I guess he checked both boxes, right?

He's just pandering, did the two of us. Joe, what do you think? National food for the United States. Do you buy this sausage, this case for sausage? You listed off bratwurst and pepperoni, which are, I mean, distinctly, European foods. I mean, he said fried chicken, I would say wings. Wings, like buffalo wings, that's an American dish.

You can make a very strong case for wings. One thing is, the real cheeseburger started, I mean, I know that hamburger is from hamburger, right? But the cheeseburger sandwich, didn't that start in Connecticut? I've been to that place where they say they've created the cheeseburger. Yeah, how was it?

It was fine. It was just fine. Well, they still use it. They have a very weird complex, they were like, don't fucking ask for ketchup. There's all these signs everywhere like, fuck you, you're a piece of shit. If you're like ketchup, it's like, what happened here?

Right, with ketchup. Also, ketchup is, I like it on my burger. Yeah, everyone likes ketchup. It's like a very strange, it's like, the vibe with that place and ketchup, it's like when you're around like a couple that's like fighting and about to get at the force. It's like, I'm not gonna even ask,

I'm just gonna keep my head down. There's that highfalutin gastropub out here, Father's Office, where they have a famous burger and the chef, Shang Yun, he hates ketchup. So there's no ketchup on the menu or even a lot of them. But it's just like, I just don't get it because let people enjoy food the way they wanna enjoy it. I just don't get this elitism over certain things, it's weird.

The anti-ketchup faction is weird to me. Scoop, you hate ketchup. You hate ketchup, goddammit. But just don't, just ask for no ketchup. Right, you're not Scoop, you're not telling other people not to get ketchup. Yeah, he doesn't care. Scoop's living, let live.

Scoop came into my apartment, he threw away my ketchup as soon as he got in here. Is that how he got his nickname? Because he Scoops up people's ketchup and throws it in the dumpster. Tosses it in the dumpster. With his hand, it's disgusting. Interesting.

I'm a big ketchup fan, so I think that you should be allowed to put whatever on there. That disappoints me with that place. Maybe now it shouldn't be the cheeseburger. I don't know, man. If that's where it started. But a cheeseburger seems like, and pizza is way more of an American,

what we have as pizza. What we call pizza, yeah. So it sucks to me, because to me, the two most American foods to me are, I think wings are actually in the Toss grade. I was just thinking about it while you were talking and what another thing that's very American about wings is that that was a food that was just discarded.

Right. These were the refugees of the chicken dish and it became this American, it's this delicious dish that everyone loves at the Super Bowl. Right. I agree, I 100% agree. And also too, maybe it's wings.

I think there's a very strong case for wings. Here would be my pitch, and this might be too broad of an umbrella so I can narrow it if needed. Barbecue. I feel like that's just like a huge part of American food culture. But that you're so specifically Southern too though.

But don't you think that's a part of like that? I feel like Southern food has influenced American food at large so strongly. Like a lot of the stuff from the coast has maybe come from overseas and a lot of the stuff that's homegrown has come from the South. I got a question for you.

Why does that have to be, can't it just be a hot dog? He listed, yeah, it could maybe just be hot dogs. Why do we have to throw the other stuff in there? I agree because if you know what, if someone said should hot dog be the American food, I'd be like, yeah, no question. Yeah, that's fine, yeah.

Yeah, with sausage is maybe a little too broad. But when you think of American food, don't you think for me, I mean, besides wings, I think my wings is relatively new. Wings are new, what, 50 years or something like 60 years? Yeah, something like that. But wings, cheeseburgers or burgers, and pizza I feel like are American food.

Does that seem like? Barbecue ribs. I close my eyes. I see a hot dog with a mustard. Yeah, okay. I think anything you put on a grill in a backyard in 4th of July. You know what makes this country great? Tacos.

Hell yeah. And Bratwurst, and kimchi, and ramen, and all at once. In a giant bowl, that's what America's, that's what it's all, it's having all those things. You know, burritos are specifically American, right? Tacos? I think that our version of the giant flour tortilla burrito is like something that's more American

than Mexican authentically. Hell, make it burritos. Hell, how about poutine? That's Canadian. Yeah, but I'm just saying, why not? We're inclusive, American, it's everything. It's everything, that's what America's all about, that big melting pot.

American food is everything. It's a buffet. Right, it's a buffet, there you go. Actually, that is, that's it. Right, it's a buffet. It's everything, and it's kind of worse than if you just went to a place that specializes in that. Right.

You're gonna have some, it's kind of shitty. You're gonna end up with some health problems. Yeah. All right, cool, we answered it. We answered it. We solved it. It's the buffet. Buffet is the answer, Sean.

Buffet is America's food. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at doughboyspodcast.gmail.com. To get the Doughboys double our weekly bonus episodes, subscribe at patreon.com slash Doughboys. Joe Mandy, thank you so much for joining us. Oh, thank you.

One of the funniest guys around. It's very, very funny, man. Check out his new special, anything you would like to plug at this time? Just my butt. Hey, I get it. That's the guy who has the same issues. No, I got nothing, man.

Check out the special. Joe Mandy's award-winning comedy special on Netflix. Yeah. And that'll do for this episode of Doughboys. Until next time for the Spoonman, Mike Mitchell, and for the entire Quincy crew. Hell yeah. I'm Nick Weigher.

They're all hooting and hollering. I'm Nick Weigher, happy eating. Time to beat the shit out of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Farrell Audio.