Doughboys - Eataly with Griffin Newman and David Sims

Episode Date: November 17, 2022

Griffin Newman and David Sims of Blank Check join the 'boys to discuss Disney's Disenchanted, being recognized in public, and train encounters before a review of Eataly. Plus, the boys try Pandora Flakes in Cereal: A Segment Told One Bowl at a Time. Want to watch this episode instead? Check it out on Youtube!   Sources for this week's intro: https://www.eater.com/2017/12/12/16768692/mario-batali-eataly-sauces-pasta-books-removed https://www.eataly.com/us_en/magazine/eataly-stories/story-of-eataly/ https://www.eater.com/2016/8/12/12442512/eataly-history-store-locations https://nymag.com/guides/fallpreview/2010/restaurants/67639/ https://www.delish.com/restaurants/g20884247/timeline-of-mario-batali-sexual-assault-allegations/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/06/dining/mario-batali-bastianich-restaurants.html https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mario-batali-lawsuit_n_1325304 Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Why, restaurant owners, enjoy 0% commission for the first 30 days on all orders, offer subject to change per the terms of the restaurant agreement. Wow, 0% on the first 30 days. Sign up today. That link that you want to click on is down there in the episode description. Right down there. Check it out. There it is. Move your cursor. Go ahead and click. Or if you're on your phone, use your finger and click that link. Click that link in the episode description. While Jared Fogle is the affable living mascot turned reviled pervert pariah of fast food, Mario Batali may be the same for fine dining. A ginger santa with a balding ponytail of

a kiss roti, Batali came to fame in the 90s New York dining scene with a series of smash-sit-down Italian concepts created with partner Joe Bastianich. Batali's rapid rise thrust him into the early-oughts wave of telegenic celebrity chefs alongside Emeril Lagasse, Bobby Flay, Tom Colicchio, and the late Anthony Bourdain. And the spherical crocs enthusiast went on to land a food network series, a coveted slot as an iron chef, and his own lines of food and cookware, slinging sauces and saucepans branded with his likeness. For many, Batali was the face of Italian-American cuisine, more so than even luminaries like Chef Boyardee, Mama Celeste, and Toti the Pizza Chef. And so in 2010, when an Italian food hall followed

in the footsteps of countless prior Italians and moved to New York City, Batali and Bastianich's group seemed like a natural fit. The partnership was fruitful at first. The duo's massive upscale grocery store slash food court was as well-trafficked in the Big Apple as an Apple store, and in short order, the brand expanded nationally. But in 2017, just as the Los Angeles outlet of the chain was set to open, Batali was hit with a series of egregious sexual assault allegations that resulted in his near-immediate exile not just from the restaurant business, but from public life altogether. Criminal charges and massive settlements followed, nothing new for Batali, who'd once paid five

and a quarter million dollars to settle allegations of tip theft from his own wait staff. Today, like Fogel, Batali's presence has been retconned out of the corporate history of the Italian Megamart, and he once a-list chef has been forced to ride his Vespascooter into oblivion. And while this thieving, predatory 3D render of comic book guy caused a marinara stain of shame on the food hall chain he helped establish with Bastianich, it continues to thrive among moneyed big city elites. This week on Doe Boys, Eataly. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host Richie Mitch, aka the Silver Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.

What are you talking about then? What's what? You're saying twisted metal? It also looks like you're wearing no pants in the video. I've got short shorts on. They're kind of the color of these shorts. And we are in person for people listening to this audio feed. We're in person with the Head Gum Studios. Back in person. One of our guests is here in LA. The other is remote. We'll get to them in one second. But I am wearing shorts that kind of match my skin tone. Yes. And we are recording video on this. So I guess you'll be seeing a lot of thigh. I'm kind of a thigh guy for those of you who are watching the video feed. It's a high cut too. They're short shorts that are flesh colored. They're peach colored. What's the inseam on those bad boys? I

think these are like five and a halfs. Hell yeah. They're pretty yeah. I approve. Yeah. Hey, I'd like a Skye's Out Thighs Out as they say. Oh boy. Skye's Out Thighs Out. Yeah. Yeah. GoSpoonManageGmail.com. Do you put blush on your thighs? It looks like your thighs are made up, I have to say. They look good. Yeah, they look good. Thank you. I don't know. Spoodation Wags. Mitch, I have my train story. My story that I tease on the snack pack. Yes, no one listens. So we should retell. No, I didn't tell it on the side. I know what I'm saying. You should say that you tease this on our show The Snack Pack. He wants you to retese the tell or retell the tease. Retell the tease. I had a story. You know what? Let's get through everything because I know at

least one of our guests is a train enthusiast. And both of our guests living in New York City probably have some train stories of themselves, of their own. So I'll share the story when we introduce our guests. So let's get to the drop. They're here already. I know, but you have to play the drop and then we introduce them. How do you know? Am I hitting them with a drop? I'd like to thank the guy who wrote the song that made my baby fall in love with me. Pizza Hut, Pizza Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Pizza Hut, McDonough Hut, McDonough Hut, Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Pizza Hut. He made my baby fall in love with me. Thank you. Thank you very much. It was you as Elvis at the end.

The drops aren't supposed to be making fun of me, too. Every part of this feels so much worse in person. So here's my question. So much more humiliating. Is this the first, like obviously not counting live shows? Yeah. This is the first time you guys have recorded a regular episode in the same room since early 2020? No, no, no. Last time we're recording a live episode. I think it is the first. I think it maybe.

Yeah, because we didn't do, we do something else in person. Remember you did a Patreon episode in person? I think this is the first mainline episode we've done, IRL. Yeah. You both seem physically uncomfortable. Yes. Also, we have, like, I have a couch to myself. I'm always physically uncomfortable.

Logs? Yeah, I'm uncomfortable. You also, like consciously, we picked the furthest seats possible. Yeah. Apart from each other. Also, we're on video and we kind of, I just feel like I'm going to look like shit. I feel like you felt the same way. Why, wait, I didn't, I wasn't anticipating video. I'm amazed that they have video capacity here.

I think people like to see it, but we're not camera ready. We look like complete shit. You both look gorgeous. Your thighs are made up. What am I? I have to know. Am I a giant screen? Like, what am I in this room? We're seeing a, yeah, we're seeing a, Yeah, we'll send you pictures of the pictures we're seeing of you.

And then you can look at the pictures on the screen we're watching you on. Over Anya and Casey, who are producing and engineering this episode for us locally, there is a monitor that has your face and Emma's face from the Zoom chat. But also, like, And there's a four square showing Fox News that I request to be put on as well. You and Emma are in, like, singles. You're in, like, close-up glamour shots. And then we're in, like, a wide shot where you just feel the space between each of us.

The giant gap between Weigar and Mitch and I are sitting in adjacent chairs, and then Weigar is sitting all the way at the opposite end of his couch. Yes. Yes. I think that there's a possibility all three of us could just go on Weigar's couch for the rest of the episode. I can scooch. Should I scooch? You think all three of us should sit on the couch together? You just said it was a possibility.

I mean, I was joking. I was fine. You floated it. I think Mike Wise may be tricky. But yeah, you did float it. All right, I'm sending Zoom as the pick. It's a thing to work towards, I think, for the end of the episode. There you go. Who set the drop in, Mitch? Hold on a second. I'm sending a pick.

Okay. It was Finkie. Hi, everyone. All right. Hi, everyone. That's not, I was, yeah. Oh, go ahead, Sim. So let's hear your thoughts before I get to the email.

I was worried that I was like a wall-sized television, that I was like that Ridley Scott 1984 ad, where I'm just like this huge big brother face. A giant floating face. It's reasonably sized. You thought you were us, the great and powerful. Yes, yes, exactly. Projected on the smoke.

Yeah. Hi, everyone. This song was on the first CD I ever owned, a 60s compilation called Goofy Greats. Goofy Greats could also be the title of a Doe Boy's best of album. Oh, that's nice. Think about it. Finkie, Chris Finkie.

Thanks, Chris Finkie. He's good. Finkie. Yeah. Drop Prince, we've called him. Would the best of album be Best of Drops? Jesus. Or would it be like Wyger Original Songs?

I mean, you guys have done. Wyger Original Songs. So let me be Frank Intros. Yeah. I think we could also throw in some audio clips of us fighting. People like that. Like kind of interstitials. It's like a little hip-hop album.

Yeah, exactly. Shut the fuck up. That's the track. It's just three seconds. That's fucking bullshit. 20 minutes of scheduling conversations. Well, the liner notes are just the text thread trying to decide when to record.

Our guest host of the podcast, Blank Check, and you can see one of them in Disenchanted coming to Disney Plus November 18th, which is tomorrow. Wow. Griffin Newman and David Sims. Now, correction, you can't see shit. I'm the voice of a cartoon chipmunk. You can hear one of them in Disenchanted.

I was wearing pajamas. I didn't have to be camera ready. I just went to a closet and I talked for 18 months, and now it comes out of a little cute cartoon. I feel like if you're a voice in an animated property, you're still being seen in the movie. Or you don't feel that way as an actor. You know what?

Look, ultimately, as performers, all we want is to be seen, right? That is the end goal here. I do feel that way. There was no motion capture involved, but they did start doing the thing where they put the cameras in the studio to record my physicality, which I didn't realize,

because the setup of doing it was very similar to this, where it's like I was in a room with an engineer, and then the director, the studio people, the editor, the special effects people, were all on a Zoom screen. So I was remote from everyone else, and I thought the cameras were just for the Zoom. Yeah.

And then they'd be like, and be mindful of that camera, because that's the one where we're getting your movements. Wow. And it was animator reference, which I didn't realize, and I do watch the movie, and I see my hand gestures at moments. That's rad.

Yeah, it's pretty funny. It's bizarre. So I look at it and I'm like, that's me. It does feel like me a little bit, but technically my face is not in it. I was trying to think of Cat Williams' name for so long, but it would be great on our album to have him on there too, like The Chronic.

That's what you're going back to? Yeah. I was trying to remember, I was like, who does this stuff on The Chronic? And then I was like, what's his name? I knew who he was. I was like the comedian there. And then I was like, oh, he's in that movie I loved.

And then I was trying to think of the movie, the movie was Undercover Brother. I finally figured out what it was. How was this in Undercover Brother? Oh, fucking shit. Eddie Griffin and Dave Schell. Eddie Griffin and Eddie Griffin is the one who's in The Chronic. So that's who you're thinking of.

I fucked up double. So you took five minutes to make sure you got the name right rather than embarrass yourself. They told us you had spent five minutes trying to pull the name. And you know what? I probably didn't Google it. I was going to Google it, I didn't Google it. Hey, our sign's up.

You just noticed that? It's great. Yeah, it's cool. The little don't-voice sign. Eddie Griffin would be great on The Doe Boys. This is the edit point. Eddie Griffin would be great on The Doe Boys album. Yes.

It would be always great if you sketch it. Well, Griffin and Eddie Griffin could be in a movie and it would be like Eddie. You could have the billing be Eddie Griffin Newman. That's great. Oh, it's really good. This is a good before and after for Jeopardy, if anyone's listening over there.

David, we have been friends for 10 years. I have absolutely pitched this to you before. Oh, well, I forgot. No, no, I'm not saying you should be giving me credit. This is a thing I used to when drunk with friends be like, you want to know what my secret biggest career dream is? That there's a two-hander movie with me and Eddie Griffin and there only have to be three total names on the poster.

I can't believe you're yelling at him for this. He pitched it for you so you don't have to get it. I'm not yelling. I'm touched. I'm like, it's nice. Oh, okay. Good, good, good. Because that's like a thing you would want to say,

but you can't say. No, we've definitely talked about this years and years ago. Yeah. And we both love Undercover Brother and you- Oh, yeah. Very funny. Have you told the Neil Patrick Harris story on mic or should we not tell the story?

No, I could- It's very brief. I could tell quickly. One of the rare times I got invited to a Hollywood Bigwig party and I looked in the corner- Commonplace for wigs, isn't it? Yeah, of course. Hollywood liberal elites.

Sure. I'm a New Yorker, I'm a man of the people, but occasionally I will come out here and do the- work the rooms. I'll be honest with you, if they have less than five flights of stairs, not going. The embarrassing part of the story. You're staying on the ground floor, but you just want to see the stairs.

The embarrassing part of the story. We're not walking up in a piece of shit. That's what that is. Yeah. By the way, I have three flights of stairs in my fucking house. Oh, but they're going to brutalize me for that. You never should have admitted that long. I don't give a shit.

Three. People were roasting you for two. You just added another level to the ire. Fucking mad at them. Mad at me for having stairs. I'm 40. I can't have some stairs, for God's sakes. Doesn't one of them go to the garage?

Are you counting that? One of them goes to the garage. Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The embarrassing part of the story that has not aged well. Yeah. Is I'm at this Hollywood party and John Lasseter is there. Boy.

And Toy Story 2 is my favorite movie of all time. Yeah. And this is maybe 2010, 2009. It's before Toy Story 3 is coming out. And I'm like 20 and there's an open bar and I'm fucking drunk as shit or 20, whatever, right? And I'm like, I've been waiting my entire life to shake John Lasseter's hand.

My favorite man. Yeah. Beyond his work, his workplace conduct has been such an inspiration to me. I have to shake his hand. He was probably excited for you to shake his hand. Yeah, he loves physical contact. No, I didn't know any of the things about that.

I love Toy Story and I go up to him. He's talking to Neil Patrick Harris. So it's one of these things where it's like two famous people are talking to each other and I have to interrupt and be like, I'm so sorry. I'm sure you get this all the time. Toy Story is my favorite movie of all time. It's so important to me, this and that.

Thank you. And Neil Patrick Harris is right there and it's that awkward thing where it's like... You know, sometimes... Do you acknowledge? Yeah. You have a famous friend and then someone comes over and talks to them and you sort of

stand politely by and you're like, I understand you don't know who I am. But Neil Patrick Harris happened last night at dinner with Mitch. Yes, Mitch got recognized and we both had to be like, yeah, he is great, isn't he? Why a man who is more, like he's a famous, to me, a man who wrote on Six Feet Under.

A very successful TV writer. He came up and was a fan of yours and then was like, must be cool to be friends with him. So it was kind of that situation, but the guy I'm doing that to is Neil Patrick Harris, right? And I felt like, I don't want to be rude. And this is at like peak how I met your mother. And so I'm just so effusive to last night.

I'm like, toys at this and that and I've seen it more times than any other movie. And by the way, I love undercover brother. I shift to Neil Patrick Harris and I go, and by the way, just so you know, I love undercover brother. And he goes, that one? And I went, yeah, that one.

So anyway, Toy Story 2, the scene of the show. But the level of contempt he gave me on that one. I would have genuinely been talking to him about undercover brother. I love Toy Story, but undercover brother maybe means more to me than Toy Story. Look, if he had responded, oh, thank you, man. I would have done five minutes on undercover brother with him.

I had questions to ask, but he like recoiled and went, that one? He must have to stay for it because I would think or just have a weird ego thing about, I want to be recognized for the thing that I'm most famous for. Because I would think that a celebrity gets recognized all the time would be like,

oh, people are always talking to me about how I met your mother or whatever, like a Harold and Kumar. I'd love to talk about undercover brother. People never recognize him. How about your mother is the one you think you'd want to be recognized for? I guess that is the biggest one.

I think oftentimes you hear people say, like the deeper cuts are better. I'm not telling those stories all the time. If someone's saying that, I know they're actually a fan, as opposed to just naming the thing at the top of my IMDB. And I was like, he'll probably like that I specifically go for undercover brother and he seemed disgusted.

This makes me upset. It makes me feel like NPH doesn't like undercover brother. He's so funny in that one. Yeah, he's really great. And that's like the first of the Neil Patrick Harris reclamation I'm cool in comedies. It was pre-Harold and Kumar. It was him beginning to show the new side of himself

for whatever. Yeah. That one. That one. That one. I got to say this. We were saying, oh. I'm going to start saying that to everyone who says

they love dough boys. That one. That one. Why? You're not even a, how did this get played? I told you guys after, I was recognized twice, but the second time was in the bathroom. Yes.

And a guy was like, hey man, I'm a big fan. I was like, thanks. And he was like, yeah, your food was great tonight. And I was like, what? And then I told you guys when I left, I think he thought I was Mario Batali. Yeah. Well, I think.

Were you wearing crocs? Like what? I was wearing my, I was wearing my orange crocs and I didn't have my hair in a ponytail. A really tight greasy ponytail. If you take your wardrobe, which is, you know, denim pants, a flannel shirt over a graphic tee, and a baseball cap, you kind of have,

like all that is like canceled guy wardrobe. Canceled guy wardrobe? You kind of apply that to Mario Batali. It would look like you. I know my pivot now after I'm done. Canceled guy to wardrobe. You're saying Mitch dresses like a formerly famous person who doesn't want to get recognized

because the press turned on him. Yeah. Canceled guy to wardrobe is just DXL. You never see fucking, you never see the little guys getting canceled squirming their ways out of it. Anyways, he definitely thought I was someone else. He was like, the food was great or whatever.

And I was like, what is this? Who is this guy? He was Chef Boyardee. And I mean, I never, I mean, possibly I never met the man. I showed him on the way out when we were walking out. I've never, I, we didn't meet. I didn't meet him. No, yeah.

She didn't just show me to him. You went, that's the guy, that's the guy, that's the guy. He thought you were someone else. I think that's also possible that there was like a chef there or a manager who was also like a, like a, you know, big bearded guy. What the fuck was that? I don't know.

You did this. I was like, you're doing like a beard gesture. All right. Well, let's hear, let's hear, let's hear your story because you have a story. First off, I don't know if you guys can see this but I hit my hand on the microphone, which is why I said Owl about 10 minutes ago.

And I have like, like all these, these cuts on mine. Jesus Christ. Yeah. So I'm dealing with that. So here's my story. My legs look like he just got in a bare-knuckle fight. He's truly bruised. How did that happen?

I don't even understand how that happened. It's got like this square piece of the bottom. Is there a technical term for what this is on a microphone? Called a mic flag. Okay. It's got a mic flag, a cubicle, a cube-shaped mic flag. And I hit that with my hand, like just like full-fortress gesture.

But for the listener at home, it's not like, oh, there's a nick on one of his knuckles. It looks like a nun wrapped you with a ruler. Yes. I hit an entire side. Full turquoise coverage. Yeah. I hit an entire like corner, like an edge,

just like full flush. Anyway, so Sims, I know you love the choo-choo. You're a train enthusiast. I do, especially the New York City subway. But yes, I love all trains. You're a trans bother. You were, I was, I was texting you about HS1 in the UK, the high-speed rail that got over there.

Yeah. And you've ridden that. You were, yeah, you were, when I said I had ridden that, you acted like I was telling you I had met the queen. Like you were like, wow, you really wrote on that thing. I'm, it is, it is the rail line if you want to go to Paris. It's, it's, I've done it many times. Very cool.

HS1 is too cool sounding. It sounds like you're talking about a rapper and you're talking about a, a fast train in England. Is this what it is? It's, yeah, it's high-speed one, right? That's just what the acronym is. Yes. And if I can actually briefly speak on high-speed one, you know, the Eurostar opened the train that goes to,

from London to Paris through the Channel Tunnel, opened long before we had high-speed one. So the Eurostar wouldn't go that fast in England. And then when it arrived in France, the conductor would come over the like, you know, PA and be like, and now we are in France, we can go fast. You know, like they would kind of brag about it. Cause they have very nice infrastructure in France.

And so it was, it was humiliating for Britain before high-speed one, like that the Eurostar would just sort of trundle along until it got to go to France. But now it's fast. It's really, it's really fast. It is, it is kind of crazy. I've never crossed an ocean, but I might, I would love to write it someday. Anyway, I have a train story and I'm sure that both you

and Griffin have had some incidents with people, eccentric people on trains that happened to me last night, went to a Lakers game after the Lakers game, was taken the train home. And there was a woman wearing a leopard print, but not a bodysuit as I came to find out. It was two pieces and it was leopard print, like basically, you know, head to toe.

And she was at a certain point and whatever people do this and maybe sometimes maybe they're like a, they're a performer and they're, they're trying to make some money on the train. But she had like grabbed one of the poles and was kind of like dancing on the pole, was kind of doing some pole dancing moves. And I was just sort of like, you know,

minding my own business, pretty crowded train. At a certain point she, like I just look up, because I'm sitting right by a pole and she's just got like her ass cheeks, like both her ass cheeks are like around the pole. That's like, you know, whatever, two feet from my nose. So I'm just like, I'm looking over and she's just like, her leopard print ass cheeks right there.

I was like, okay, I'm just going to mind my business, play Marvel snap on my phone. Anyway, I get buried in my phone, she's doing this dance, this is continuing. And at a certain point I hear the train just like, a bunch of people are just like, whoa, okay, whoa. And I look up and she has dropped her leopard print pants to expose her lace panties.

Oh my God. And starts walking up and down the aisle, just saying to random men, show me your dick. Show me your dick with the cadence of Captain Falcon's taunt in Smash Brothers. Show me your moves. Show me a dick. And we're all kind of like, at first this is,

we're just, this is kind of, we're just having fun. We're just kind of like looking at each other, like I'm looking at the guy next to me, I was like, oh my fucking hell yeah. The big city, hey, you know, what are you going to do? You still have Marvel snap open at this point? Yeah, I'm still playing. All right.

And your dick was already out prior to her saying ass, right? She was like, everyone else join in. I was going to say, hello, this guy's Lee. You did it, it would silence her, she'd get off at the next stop. Oh. He'd like emergency brakes on the train. Weigar's 1517 to Paris.

Clint Eastwood could make a movie about it. 15 to 17 inches. No colon, a dash. So we're having some fun with this at first, just like, oh whatever, she know, we'll ever, no harm, no foul. Then she goes to a guy who's seated, I'm at the end of the train,

so I'm facing and can see everyone. Like I'm facing the opposite direction to the rest of the riders. And she goes, this guy is seated near me, and is like, you look like Prince Harry. And then sits on his lap and starts grinding. And is like, show me your dick. And this guy's like, get off of me,

please get away from me. And his friend is next to him, like kind of laughing, but also like what the fuck is happening. He clearly does not want to have to touch her. But she's like, make me, show me your dick. And he's like, finally, finally, get the fuck off of me and pushes her off.

She goes off, and this kind of sets her off. And she goes on what I'll euphemistically refer to as a Kyrie Irving-esque rant at this point. Very loudly. And it just basically the mood of the whole train just shifts to like, oh fuck, this is now a bummer. We're all just very upset. So we get to the next stop,

and basically the entire car, except for her, gets off and runs into the next car. As we're running, there's a guy behind me who's like a diminutive white bearded man, like a pocket Santa. And he's like, but right behind me he's like, am I the only one who's running here? Like he was like mad that we weren't going fast enough

to get in the next train. And then we get in the next train, and then I hear this guy. See it just pissed off? Yeah, and then pocket Santa sits down and then tells the entire story of what just happened to the next car, so we just lived it. But anyway, that was my incident on the train.

That was the train story. Oh my God. Yeah. Wow. Tell me your dick. That is a lot. Yeah, it was a lot. That is insane.

I think you guys should have pocket Santa on the show, by the way. I want to hear more about pocket Santa. If I can tell a weirdly parallel anecdote. Please. If you're saying like, I'm sure you guys in New York have had experiences like this, public transit fiends that David and I are.

The one that sticks in my memory, I grew up in Manhattan and I went to high school in Brooklyn. And if you're taking the subway between boroughs, there's always the longer stretch between stops where you have to cross the water, you know. And so you're either the trains going above ground, and it's kind of a nice break. You get cell phone signal again.

You're seeing the light. Or you're truly just underwater in a tunnel for five minutes in between stations. Scary. And so you do have that feeling of like, if you are stuck in the same car as an eccentric person who starts revealing themselves in that gap, you're like, I'm stuck here for six minutes.

Right. The doors aren't going to open. I can't transfer to the next train. It's going to be a little while, right? And one time I remember I was in that, going from school to home or vice versa. And the car was just me and one guy. And he was like, you know when you're a kid

and you do the thing where you stretch your shirt over your knees, you put your knees up, and you stick your hands out, and you're just sort of a head sticking out of a shirt. Classic bit. And the rest of your body sort of turtled in. He's doing that with a winter coat. So he's like, color up like this,

head just peeking out, his limbs fully pulled into the coat, feet up on the chair, and we're sort of looking at him, and I'm like, is this guy going to be a problem? And then he pulls his head up and he goes, hey man, you got any cigarettes? And I went, no, I'm sorry.

I'm also probably 15 at this point, and I look like I'm 11. And I went, no, I'm sorry, I don't. One of these like, what are you going to do? Right? And I was like, okay, so he's cool, he's a level guy. Puts his head back down, two minutes past, and then he sticks his head up wild-eyed,

and he goes, I'm Chris Kringle. Head back down silent. He changed? Something had changed within him. Wow. Something had changed within him. Like what he's doing is, is he shifting? Right, yes.

No, I mean, it was a little like when you do the thing with the kid where your facial expression changes when your hand passes. The energy had shifted, but it wasn't like he took off the coat and he was wearing a Santa suit. And we party if you each drew what your Santas look like and they look the same.

The same guy. Santa rides a train. No, I have to bring up. At dinner last night, Mitch says, Weigar's got this train story. He's been fucking teeing up. He still hasn't told me. He says he wants to save it for Mike.

Yeah. And Mitch says, I think he saw a dead body. Yes. He hasn't told me what it is, but the way he's talking around it, I think Weigar witnessed someone die. In my mind, you said it was like murder on the Orient Express. So I thought that like there had been a murder

and all of you tried to figure it out. I think you just took it too literally because I just meant more is like it was a momentous event that happened on a train. Okay. Okay. I guess I guess you shouldn't have compared it at all to murder on the Orient Express.

Where it was just a lady saying, show me your dick over and over again. For you to go, a funny thing happened on a train, you know, like murder on the Orient Express. Yes. So if they did, if Clint Eastwood made a 1570 to Paris, it would be with you, I guess, right? Yeah, they would use the actual guy.

Yeah. They don't use it. That was the whole thing. People would be thinking he was making like an American psycho. Okay. Griff, to be fair, there is that point in Murder on the Orient Express

where Paro asks everyone to take out their dicks. He reveals his lace panties. Would I be able to do that with you? Like would they write me in as a friend in your 1570 to Paris? I mean, maybe like, I guess if there's like hoda. Or like a little... Or like an opening section where it's like,

have fun on that train. Yeah, that's what it would be. I get to be one of those. You're the Jenna Fisher wishing him a good trip. All right. Yeah. But they wouldn't use you. They'd like cast an actor to play you.

Right, they'd cast Jenna Fisher. Those are the roles they cast real actors in. Jenna Fisher is the Nwiger host Doe Boys together? Yeah, I think so. Jenna Fisher with a beard. Jaleel White is in the 1570 to Paris. Really? So weird.

Yes, yes. He's one of the non, you know, real people who's like, pops up for a scene. Yes. It's very weird. So you can have Jaleel White, you know. He could swing in. Yeah, that would be great.

Can I out a scene? Hercules loves cheese. Was he on the 15th? Was he on the 15th? Oh, wait. Jesus. No, I think he's like... Oh, cheese is in Paris.

Yeah. Cheese is in Paris. Cheese is in Paris. All right, good. You're asking if he's putting a little brie on a cracker? Yes, that's what... Yes, it made sense after all. I know there's food to talk about.

Yes. Can I just out very quickly a Sims train thing? Please. That happened to us recently that I've been obsessed with and have been sharing this anecdote as much as I can. You're so obsessed. Everyone's got a train story. Yes.

I don't got a train story. No, because I couldn't ride the train enough. That's bullshit. My dad worked for the trains. Go on, let me grab, you know, do it quickly. Yeah. We were in between... I can't remember if it was...

We were going from a record to go see a movie or something. That's right. But that's what it was. Right. But David, producer Ben and I were traveling from one location to another on an afternoon where we had to be in two different places. And we get to the station and you hear like a train leaving, right? We're in like the lobby of the station.

You need to walk down the steps to the actual platform. And it's one of these stations where it's like there's an F energy running on the same line. They're two wildly different trains, different colors, but they run on the same line. And we hear the train leaving and Ben's like, I hope that wasn't our train. Hopefully that was the other one.

Not the one we need to catch. And David goes, no, it was the F. And we go, how do you know? And he goes from the sound. Wow. I know it was actually... It was actually three... It was...

Hoysker-Rohorn Street, if anyone wants to know, is the subway station. If you want to relive this kind of... Well, there's three trains there, the A, the C, and the G. And I know the G has different rolling stock from the A and the C. And that's how I knew, because I know what it sounds like. Yes. Different rolling stock by ear. You're treating me like I'm some hunter in the woods

who can feel the animals in his feet or whatever. That's my vibe. But I was just like, I heard the G train. And he did the thing. When he said it to us, it was with a sigh where he's like, I know you're going to be talking about this for nine months. Every time we're on a podcast. But I can recognize trains by sound.

I think that's fucking alpha. Yeah. I love it. Why is he going to put a poster of you up in his room? When I was a little boy, I made my parents take me on the subway. That was what I liked to do on the weekends. There didn't need to be a destination. I just wanted to ride all the trains.

Wow. That's always been... Yeah. All right. Do you have a favorite subway line? I think the end train is going to give you the best of everything if you wanted to ride one train from end to end. But I think that's a complicated question.

But the end is going to give you all of it. It's going to give you a bridge. It's going to give you tunnel. It's going to give you elevated. It's going to give you nice looking Manhattan stations. It's got a lot of stuff. And then you end in Coney Island, which is the best place to end. Because then you can go get some dumplings

and go to the beach or whatever. Like you're in a nice terminal. Yes, you got a hot dog. It's a lovely place to end up. To Tonos. To Tonos. Yes, which Ellen Beats. Bologna Gardens.

Yes. Yes. Lots of options. You haven't been to any of them. I don't think you joined us. I went to Nathan's. You mostly ate at your hotel last time we were in New York. I went to Nathan's by myself at Coney Island.

Weiger has never crossed an ocean. He also refuses to cross the Hudson River. Why did you eat at Nathan's? Oh, because I went with Dan O and them, right? Yeah, you went separately. The way our flight got in where I just basically had to go straight to Nathan's, Coney Island. Lovely time.

Yeah, I bet I saw you before the show. Anyways, we got to talk about the restaurant. We got to talk about the restaurant. Here's what we should do. We'll take a break. Hey, you know what's going to happen during the break? You're going to show me your dick. We'll be back with more dope.

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David Sims also from White Check. Great podcast. Let's talk about Eataly. All right. Well, I was going to say quickly, like we talked about this a little bit last night, but children are about to be fascinated by you. It's going to be great. Yeah. I mean, David has a young daughter.

She's maybe a hair under the right age, but I feel like a lot of my friends who have kids are right at the age where they're old enough to start actually having impressions of their parents' friends. Like opinions on who I like and who is boring when they come over. And I do feel like I've just moved up. I'm about to move up to a higher poll position because I get to be the guy where it's like,

Griffin, do the voice for the kid. Yeah, that's fucking rad. Which is really exciting. And I was saying to you guys, it's like, at this point, if an adult complements you on something you've done, you're like, you probably haven't watched it and you're lying. Yeah. If a kid is like impressed where it's like,

you're the chipmunk, you're like, kids, I can't fake this. Yeah. And it's also pretty hard too with like, when you sit, like want to be like your nephew or niece is down and put on the monster fuck. And you know what I mean? Right. It means nothing to them. Do you voice a chipmunk?

Yeah. Remember the name of the chipmunk? Pip. Pip the chip. Pip the chipmunk. Wow. Yeah. Is Pip the chip, there's a lot of Griffin Pip the chip?

I think so. He's a real New Yorker. You hit the bottom of the mic again. Yeah, I know. Not as hard. Well, actually, his name is bleeding now. No, I think so. Bleeding out.

He's out during the episode. Distant Chance of Sequel to Enchanted, the 2007 Amy Adams film. And she's a cartoon Disney princess who lands in the real world of New York City. And Pip is kind of her little animal friend in the opening section. He's like her Gus Gus to Cinderella or what have you.

And he's got this sort of New York energy. And then when he falls through the portal, follows her magically through to New York, he loses his voice. He can't talk. So for most of the first movie doesn't talk. And they want to recast the character. And it was one of these things where I was like,

oh, that's pretty close to who I am. Right. Like this is not a thing where I have to work really hard to crack some voice match thing. And it was almost like, I think I could offer like, I will save you money because you don't need to pitch it up and speed it up as much before they had a guy go like, hey, there, Princess Giselle.

And then I can walk in me like, hey, what are you doing over here? So I think we're pretty similar. Yeah. That's very exciting. Very exciting. Well, Italy, speaking of New York, was founded. You can be in a ride. It's part of some sort of Disney attraction.

It's the hope. The number one thing of a toy. Buckle your seatbelt or whatever. Oh my God. Yeah, I wanted to do that pre-write announcement thing. Yes. That would be perfect for you. God.

I'm going to make a podcast theme park. Marin Land. I will say, my daughter, you are the playing the character. My daughter would point at the screen. Like if this is what I'm saying, you know what I mean? Like I go like, ah, like that's all my daughter does right now is when there's a truly ridiculous character. That's what she does.

Yeah. No, I've started having friends of ours. Like Scott Gardner showed me. He showed his son the trailer and filmed his son pointing at the screen when the chipmunk shows up. Oh, that's cute. And I go like, jump in jelly sticks. And he points and goes chipmunk.

And I'm like, I'm about to be, the kid can point at me. I'm connected to an animal, which they like more than people. And I can do a funny voice. Wags knows I have something to say here. Issue with Marin Land. You get to the front. Freaking gates locked. Can't get in.

Yeah, that's an issue. Yeah. Then you go, you have to go get a, get in line for the Rockin' Rogan Coaster. You get off and you're like, vaccine does suck. Look it up, Jamie. Bernie's on a part of the Rogan, Rogan Coaster. Oh, okay. Get wise here, kind of.

Italy is an Italian combination of whole foods slash upscale food court with sit down restaurants. Kind of, I feel like the closest way to describe it, if you haven't been there. Very, very kind of, honestly, kind of theme park-y. It's kind of like, almost like, this is like an Epcot version of, this is an Italian, you know, market, what that would be like. Can we condense an entire country into an indoor market? Yes, yeah.

To feel the immersion of the place. Yeah. The first location actually opened in Italy in 2007, and then the Italy brand expanded to NYC with that name in 2010. Italy in Italy. There is an Italy in Italy. Seems confusing. Yeah, it is a little confusing.

And I'm not sure if the pun works. In Italy? Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. I think it was maybe originally called something else. Is it like Manjali or something? Is it different? Manjali?

I don't know. Is it Manjah? How you say eat in Italian? Is it? Manjah. Manjah? Yes. Wow, okay.

Maybe it is Manjali. You didn't know that? No. I don't know any Italian. You know, back, wait, what is the weird, what is not weird? The Japanese porn? Manga. Manga.

Well, I mean, it's not always porn. There's manga that's, you know, for all ages. That's Hentai is porn. Manga is just the art of Japanese comics. Oh, well, okay. You know that. Yeah. Yeah, I know manga.

Manjah. Manjah. They say Manjah. Yeah. So you're saying like that. Oh, I get it. Because it eats. I mean, Mitch is right.

I'm actually just waiting on this. Mitch is right on the first part, but then he goes, well, you don't know this Italian word. Do you know a different Japanese word that means a different thing? I guess that was a weird swerve, sure. If you're an Italian guy and you're hungry, but you want to read a comic, it must be confusing.

Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. Manga manga. I want a manga. You're hungry? No, I want a manga. I want to jack off. It expanded NYC in 2010.

There are eight locations in the US, including the one we went to in Century City, which is the lone LA location. There are over 40 worldwide. And we should say that former co-owner Mario Batali has been purged from the company. He's no longer affiliated with Italy. And I've put his crocs away

in the deepest, darkest part of my closet. Sure, they're comfortable, but I won't wear them ever again. Will I get rid of them? No, Wigs. I won't get rid of them, but they're very comfortable, but I won't wear them. Yeah, it was a really big news story because they had expanded so much very recently

in the couple of years right before Batali gets all these accusations, very credible accusations, I should say, thrown out at him. And it was like, oh, this thing just... Did you have to say credible accusations because you're on our podcast? Yes. Okay. We all think they're credible to be clear.

I'm like, it's like the hyperlink on Twitter where it's like verified source. This is backed up. Yes, a true piece of shit it seems. Yeah, a piece of shit. So many stories about him that are awful. Also like stole tips from servers, that sort of shit. Awful in like multiple ways.

Yes. Also, I had an Instagram photo with him. We know this story. I went to Mozza to buy my mom the Nancy Silverton and Batali book or whatever, and he was there and he signed it. And they tried to give me crocs, which I didn't want, and then I finally took it and then I took a picture with Batali. And I put it up on my Instagram.

I think the caption was, and twins. And then eventually, after he got canceled, someone was like, it was not even that long ago. Someone was like, this photo's still up, Mitch? I didn't even realize it, and then I deleted it. And it was also a reference, because the two of you were wearing sunglasses on motorcycles, right? The thing I found so-

Spaghetti string connecting us. You're moving in closer to the kiss. The thing I found so interesting about the Batali thing was it kind of only is him and Papa John, where it's like, you are both the businessman and the mascot, and his thing was such a high-end, expensive, luxury thing, Batali. And these Eataly things are giant complexes. Like, they're like biodomes in the biggest cities in the world that take so much money and time and space to construct,

and they had like branched out really quickly, and then suddenly all these stories come out about Batali. And it was one of these things where it's like, the whole selling point was this guy. These things are huge. It's not like a bunch of Arby's locations that they might close down. Like, what are they going to do? And it did feel like it was like four months of news stories

about them trying to extricate him from the company, and then they had to signal very loudly, Batali has no involvement. He has no financial stake in this anymore. Eat your salami. You're not supporting him. He's done. None of his cookware is here anymore.

All his books are gone. He's gone. And we talked about the chronology a little bit. The crocs should still be there. But, um, to quote Bourdain, it's Batali and it's bad. We looked up this tweet last night. Yes, that's right. Yeah, right.

Because there were tweets going around from like blind item gossip sites that were like, I'm hearing there's going to be a big Me Too takedown of a huge food celebrity this week. And people were speculating. And then Bourdain just tweets out of context, it's Batali and it's bad, which is an incredible tweet. Do you think that it was because he's also a huge food guy? Do you think it was a thing that, or do you think he was just telling the world

what they were wondering? Like a... What do you mean? Like it was you being like, it's not me. There could have been an element of that, but I think it was more that like he just, he had heard and he was not afraid to say it. It was in the air because it was that Tom Calicchio then replied to his tweet and no one should be surprised.

I remember this. Yes. So it was like the whole New York celebrity chef scene altogether sort of swinging in being like, oh boy. Yeah. Right. Because there's certain people you can think of where it's like, okay, there would be in a, like there's certain people would be like,

that we know if like one of, someone we know got, had some sort of cancellation. The fuck are you talking about? There are people who would be, who like, you feel like there would be kind of like a, like, oh wow. And then there's also people like, I feel like everyone would dog pile on this person immediately because this person's made some enemy. Sure, of course.

I feel like Batali kind of had that energy of like he was kind of a dick, kind of like an arp and egomaniac. No one stood up to his defense. It felt like immediately everyone was like, on top of these stories, he's a piece of shit. He underpays people. Yes. He's an egomaniac.

Like everyone was just ready with knives out of like, we can be done with this guy. And he then said, please, please try my cinnamon roll pizza. One of the greatest me too responses of all time. Yes. Dear God. Sending an email with an apology and then a recipe. I made some mistakes.

I'm not a perfect man. Here's a recipe for pizza cinnamon rolls. Jesus Christ. Cinnamon rolls with cheese. We talked about the chronology a little bit last night when we were at dinner. The three of us. It's a double.

Yeah, we'll make these cinnamon rolls. So we had a like, but that was in 2017 when the Century City location where we dined at opened. And we end up stumbling upon the fifth birthday event of this particular location last night. It was the fifth birthday, a close ticketed event. Yeah. So we didn't quite experience the market as it was,

as it normally is, but we did get to eat at one of the restaurants. I was driving. We had done the snack pack. We had wrapped up the snack pack. I was leaving. It was like a, you know, 35 minute ride over there. And as I was, I was probably about 15 minutes away or so, or if you had got there and sent, it's closed down.

And I was so mad. I was very upset. But I'd also mentioned to you, we should try to get a reservation maybe, but they just don't take them usually, right? I mean, this was so bizarre because I walk up. I'm the first one there. I walk up, I say, because the sign says, close for private event, fifth birthday, ticketed only.

And there's like people who have bought tickets and there's media check-in, right? And all other doors are closed. You got a brigade of people with clipboards, double checking that you're allowed to be there. But the sign also says rooftop restaurant open. So I walk up to the door and I say, they go, is your name on the list?

And I go, no, I'm trying to get to the rooftop restaurant. And they say, do you have a reservation? And I go, no, I don't think we do. Let me check with my friends. And they're like, I'll wait for them to get here. So then you show up, Wikes. And I'm like, look, I tried to, they sort of stopped me. I don't know what the deal is.

We might be fucked without a reservation. You walk up, you're like, hey, do I need a reservation? They're like, no, we can wait down the list right now. I'm like, so then why didn't you just let me walk up to the rooftop restaurant? And then we walk in, they're like, we're going to privately escort you to the restaurant. So you don't walk through the market area

that is ticketed for the people who have earned this. And you're like, this is a free fall. We could take anything. Yes, right. Now that we're past the door, there's no checks and balances. Except there was a guy kind of coming up the rear. Yeah, you had a tail. I had a tail.

You specifically. And also it was for good reason, because as Griff and Wags know, I did take a piece of bread with cheese on it on our walk over. And like the guy, I was like, oh, I wasn't supposed to do, like the guy was, I didn't realize the guy was even behind me at that point. Because yeah, basically like this market, it's usually a market with different sections

and different specialty like divisions, and you make transactions at those specific areas. But for this night, the fifth anniversary, the marketplace just became like a Costco free samples thing. Right. Where every station was just a plate with like, do you want free wine? Do you want free apparel spritz?

Here's cheese. Here's this and that. The way I, so I worked over at the, in the Fox app, which is right nearby. Everyone knows I worked at The Simpsons. I'm sorry, what? You have never brought this up on the podcast. How many stairs did you climb, Mitch,

when you were working at The Simpsons? I'm starting. To get in that office. The Simpsons the TV show? The Simpsons the TV show, I worked there. You have never brought this up. And look, everyone who works at The Simpsons has plenty of staircases.

But I used to have to go to that mall all the time. And it is. Homer. And so when I, first of all, when I pull into the parking lot, it says, it's either said Bloomingdale or Macy's, but it was like Macy's, Equinox, and Eataly. And I'm like, already this sucks. Like I don't like to be here.

And the way, and- This is a high-end mall. This is a high-end mall. An annoying rich person mall. Yes, I was in AMC. This is the worst people in LA all come to this, basically. It's like Eyes Wide Shut, but there's no sex. It's like, that's the type of people that are there.

It's just purely elitism. Just the ambience. Just the ambience of Eyes Wide Shut. Like these twisted people. A blindfolded man playing piano. Yes. I mean, they all kind of look like twisted and plastic in some way.

And it's not, it's a place that I would, Nick, you and I, and Griff, I assume, I would never, you hate the West Side for this reason, I'm sure, more so. This part of it's obnoxious, yeah, of course. But it's like, yeah, Beverly Hills out, like stay at home mums and dads that yell at the lawn guy. Right. And we're also now getting the most extreme version of this,

because this is this bougie mall having a closed off private event for people who paid extra to go. Yeah, yes. So it's like on steroids. Yeah, I'ma shell out $200 ahead to go to this anniversary of this Mario Batali restaurant. Who are the people who will do that? Yes.

And it's so crowded and there's a remix of Thunder Only Happens when it's raining, which has a different song title. You at some point say, has this remix been going on for 25 minutes, or are they playing the song in a loop? I think that it had been, right? I don't think I was going. I think they probably, maybe someone in the playlist accidentally hit repeat track,

because it felt like it was going for a long time. But it also felt like it might have just been an extended remix. Yes, it was a very long remix. It was. But anyways, we should tell them where they led us to. Yeah, I want to talk about this. I want to talk about our experience, because the three of us have a lot to say about our meal.

But Sims, I do want to get you in here, because you are someone who's been to Eataly a good amount, and you have some opinions going in, and you had another experience this past week. And not only that, by the way, Emma sends us, Emma and Amelia send us the list of a couple of options. And I was like, well, we could do that. And David's like, we're going to Eataly.

I want to eat. I would probably. This is not a discussion. Well, no, wait. I know that makes me sound like a hoity-toity boy. No, I don't think you were rude, but you were just like, I will enjoy this. Yeah.

Well, I think I was also like, I actually know Eataly. I used to, my workplace, the Atlantic, the office was in Nomad, which is right where the Eataly, right where the main Eataly is, the one on 23rd Street. So I've been going to Eataly for years. You know, some of the other options, I was like, look, I could roll the dice with these. I, you know, I'm sure I'd have a good time,

but I don't know anything about them. Eataly, I would go there like twice a month, like to shop. And then occasionally, yeah, you'd go get a lunch there. And every time you would, it would hurt your wallet. Like as much as I do enjoy Eataly, like it was one of those places where I'd walk in being like, okay, I'm going in here to get one item. Like I know they have fantastic prosciutto.

I know they have this pasta I really like. And I would walk out, you know, with two paper bags, you know, having spent $100 on all the delicious things in Eataly. Like it's, it's, it's a tempting place. You know, people call whole foods, whole paycheck. I call Eataly whole yearly earnings. Oh, wow. Wow.

I mean, not expensive. Oh, well, we'll get to that. Well, meal is expensive. But as a market, it's very expensive. It's more expensive as a market than as a restaurant. Right. Yeah. It probably also depends on which restaurant, because there are multiple restaurants

and they're different in each location. And there's also like some of them that are kind of like, you know, more kiosk. Like there's just like a barista you can get a coffee from. So, my question to you, Sims, is the people in, in your Eataly look like the mom from Terry Gilliams, Brazil? I mean, there's a little of that vibe. Like the whole, it has the combination of like Manhattan movers

and shakers eating their, you know, one slice of pizza and drinking wine at a counter. But then it is also still a New York supermarket in a little, it has, Griffin, have you been to the 23rd street Eataly ever? No, no, no, no. Yeah, you've been there. Right. Yeah.

So there is still just like that. And you know this Griffin, like as well as I do, like the Manhattan supermarket thing of like, I am like a thief in the night right now. Like, no, you know, like I'm moving through people. I'm getting like everyone is kind of bustling around and, you know, nobody is my friend and I just like, I have to get what I need. There's like, because all Manhattan supermarkets are just like a little cramped. They've got a lot of stuff.

Everyone is constantly moving. So you kind of have this feeling of like, I can't loiter. I can't like spend 20 minutes like, you know, picking out apples or whatever. Yes, absolutely. No, and Eataly is like, has to be the biggest supermarket in Manhattan. It's like an entire square block. It feels humongous. It is huge.

For Manhattan. It's like fucking humongous. And even still, it's basically probably this, the amount of things in all other Eataly locations compressed into half the size. So they made all the Eataly is really big just to like house Battali. It's kind of like, they made every doorways are bigger. It's kind of like a, like a sort of a hobbit situation or anti-hobbit situation. It is that thing though, David, where you're like, the New York,

Eataly is huge and yet it still feels cramped because there's stuffing as much in there as they can. And I do think there is that New York sort of melting pot thing where you're like, this is an expensive high end place. And yet there is more of a cross section there, perhaps. There's a little more of a cross section, but there is the weird awkwardness of like, I'm there, maybe buying some broccoli, but then there's also like someone having a $200 lunch.

Like it is, it is a funny vibe. A lot of offices in that neighborhood. I think there were a lot of expensive office power lunches or post work drinks happening there with giant tabs. It was never a great, my office has moved. We're no longer in the flat, in that flat iron area, but it was never, never a great place because you couldn't get cheap lunches apart from like, if you just wanted to like go to dig in and like, you know, eat a sad bowl of dig in

for the 40th time, like there, there, it's every, every nice restaurant there is very nice. There's a, I now work downtown and it's so much better because I can like go down to Chinatown or go, you know, get a slice of pizza or whatever. You know, like there's a lot more going on where I am now. I've been to Eataly a couple of times. It was both to this location and one was a friend's birthday party. You had Natalie's friend's birthday party and she, it was actually a nice place to

have like a little birthday because it was like, they've got a bunch of different stands. You could sit down at a restaurant if you wanted, but then you could also walk around like, I'm going to get a Spumoni and a, and a coffee. So, and, and you know, there's, there's, there's tables together. So that, that, that was a fun experience. And it also wasn't as like insanely crowded as it was last night. It was a little bit more manageable, crowd-wise. The other time, I think it was a past guest, Andy Secunda.

We went to Chris Steakhouse. And I think we, he was just like in the neighborhood or we were both just in the same area and we're just like, yeah, let's fucking go to Eataly. And we just like, like sort of went there and like walked around and like got cannolis. You guys did this after we had Ruth Tris together? We just did this on our own. Yeah. Just for, just, it was just like a hangout. It wasn't saying he did it at post-report.

Oh, okay. No, yeah. No, we were just like both, like, I think he was, I think we were going to get together for somebody. I don't really remember what it was, but he's like, Hey, I'm here now. Do you want to just go to Eataly? I was like, yeah, I'll fucking go to Eataly. And we had cannolis. You never do things like this.

This blows my mind. When do you text me with a spontaneous invite? And you're like, Hey, I'm in the neighborhood. That never happens. We invite you to things all the time. Constantly. But you're never like, I'm in the area. I want to hang out.

When you were out for Hanford's birthday the other night and you said, maybe I'll see you there. You never showed up. I'd ride the train home. Show this lady my dick. That's your, that's how you're the hero in the 1570 to Paris first of your, I give you the prestige. So yeah, I've been a couple of days and it is nice.

It seems you're absolutely right. It's fucking expensive. It is so expensive, especially the market. And I like, you know, Hey, I like their wine selection. Yeah, I like all their cured meats. You know, they've got like a lot of cools out there. Their bakery is nice, but it's just, you're going to spend a pretty penny.

So last night when we walked in, there was stuff immediately that we eyed. Like there was, there was a Limoncello. Yes. Limoncello had a little sponsored stand. Yes. There was a Limoncello. And it looked, first of all, it looked good. And then second of all, there was these big kind of like stuffed lemons,

like a stuff, like a stuffed animal lemon. I have no other way to say that. Mitch at one point did stop someone and go, those aren't real lemons. They're squeezing, right? He was like concerned that people are just walking around, squeezing lemons with their bare hands. I asked the hostess.

I was like, those are fake, right? I was like, those lemons are fake, right? And she was like, yeah, but she was confused too. She gave me a little bit of credit. And then, and also they, they were giving out like Limoncello branded fedoras. They were like, yeah. And there was, there were apparel hats.

Plastic visors, like casino visors. Yeah. We wanted all of this stuff more than we wanted the food or drink. Yes. Yeah. And it also didn't help that wigs. We were led to a spot. Look, it felt like they didn't want us there from the get go.

So there are two restaurants that are up. There was a rooftop place and the place that we went to. Yes. And I thought we were putting our name down for the rooftop place. I think it was just like a little miscommunication between me and the hostess. But we ended up being on the waiting list for the other restaurant, which is called Capri, which is that,

which is more of a seafood pasta concept. And that was, there was an outdoor area. So I think we said like, oh, we'll do the rooftop outside. She put us in for the other restaurant outside, maybe intentionally, because where we were led to was a corner of the balcony that was completely isolated. Like we were just, we were completely tucked away. And like whipping winds.

Yes. You sent a picture. It looked like, right, like some area that had been closed and they'd like pulled, you know, sheets off of the furniture or whatever. They, you know, to blow off the dust or whatever. It was like temporary housing for restaurant patron. And the other thing is we're walking,

she's walking us through the restaurant and we see that the tables are not full. Like we asked the server, we'll talk about a lot. Margie. The best. But she was saying like, this is actually a pretty quiet night for us because so many people are attending the event.

Yes. We're not seating that many people at the restaurant. But Margie didn't put us outside. No, no. No, and in fact, she thanked us for asking to be moved inside because she was like, I didn't want to have to keep on fucking going out. But it almost felt like a second class citizen thing

where they were like, you guys aren't allowed inside the building. It was very strange. I mean, first of all, because they walked us through the restaurant. Like I said, there was a guy tailing me, which look, he tailed the right guy. You were picking up food. I picked up food.

Look, I was the right guy to tail. But still, they were tailing us, which is insane. And then we got to the restaurant and then they were like, get out of our way. They were like, they didn't want us near them. It was a long walk too. It was fucking long ass walk. It felt like the one shot in Goodfellas,

except instead of leading them to the table that's in the front row to watch Henny Youngman, they led Ray Liotta back into an alley. Back to his club. To a dumpster. By a dumpster, yeah. Like there's that term I feel like in hip restaurants where they talk about Siberia is the worst table

where you put the undesirable people. And it felt like we were on Neptune. It wasn't even a bad country. It was a different... We were off-world. It was the sort of thing they tailed us, then they didn't want us even... They put us in a corner outside.

In the... Also, cold night in the... Yeah, like 50s, low 50s. We sit down and immediately our menu start flying away. Yes. Right? We're like trying to catch them in the wind. And you like say like,

we should ask if we can move inside. And you very politely go like, look, I'm sorry to be a hassle. Understand if it's not possible, just because it's a little cold here, is there any chance that we could sit in doors? And she's like, absolutely. Like she sort of was treated like,

I thought you maniacs wanted to sit here. I couldn't understand why they would place you here. Yeah. And she did thank us. She was like, I didn't want to fucking have to go out in that wind. Yeah. It was Margie, our waitress was great.

Hall of Fame. She was so, so good. Griff kept saying 100% tip. And then it kept going up to 200%. Yeah. By the end, I said 400%. 400% was the final. Yeah.

And you know what? She deserved it. She was awesome, very helpful. Well, we didn't actually tip 400%. But we tip very well. No, you don't have to say that. I mean, it's a very expensive restaurant. Yeah.

But also, I don't know if it was that... Look, we have a lot to talk about because... Keep in mind, Mitch has stairs when he talks about how expensive something is. Last time I checked you, don't you live in an apartment building? Yeah. There's a fucking whole lot of stairs

in that apartment building. Wait, wait, wait. Does this mean like someone lives in like a six-floor walk-up there, like Mr. Monopoli? All the stairs. Like what are the rules of this? To get to my one tiny box versus...

I'm walking up to different parts of my home. He's the co-host of this podcast. The way I make my living. He's not on twisted metal? Oh, yes. Ooh, that sag minimum money. That's where I made more at the Simpsons. The Seacock fucks.

Streaming's paying out. Anyways, it seemed like they did not want us there. I also will say this... But Margie did. Margie did. Immediately was like... Margie ruled. I want you here.

I hope I see Margie. I'm gonna... I'll take my mom and sister there or something when they come out to Eataly because I think they would... I think that is... I think that's a jackpot for family. Yes.

Bring them to Eataly. They'll have a great time. But I hope I see Margie again there. She was a Hall of Famer. She was great. Speaking of the Customer Service Hall of Fame, we've had some great service in recent memory. But when we reviewed Cornish Pasty in Phoenix,

I introduced the Isaiah Award for Outstanding Customer Service. Yeah, Isaiah. Which Isaiah was just an absolute king there. And Margie absolutely deserves the Isaiah Award. It's funny to call it the Isaiah Award because Margie's so good too. I mean, they are...

All right, it is the Isaiah Award. It's still the Isaiah Award. All right. For Margie, Margie gets it. She's... She's awesome. You're most argued, should there be like a second,

like a Gene Hirschfeld humanitarian? I love... Isaiah's the lifetime achievement. Can we name a different parallel award after Margie? It's recency bias, but fuck Isaiah. I love Margie. Isaiah was great. He fuck him.

He's gone. Do you remember Isaiah? You remember how chill he was? He was like, yeah, man. I get you something nasty. He's gone. He's out of my... He's gone now.

It's Margie. Do you remember him saying, pasties are for nips, pasties are for lips? Yes, I do remember that. Kind of kind of creepy. Don't call him creepy. He was... We loved him.

We love that. He's a tiley level creep. Get him out of here. Type F to him from the front. He's gone. I will say this, for the amount of... I think we all agreed with this. We all had like a good amount of food,

and we were all still kind of hungry after we finished. Let's be clear about how much food we ordered. We got three appetizers. We got a pizza to share. We got two pastas to share, and two main dishes. So we got a lot of... And it's basically like if you think of an appetizer

and an entree per person, or a table for two, typically like one appetizer to share, one entree a person. Like we got a lot of food. We got like eight plates of food, and then we got four desserts, and we're all still kind of hungry after.

And Mitch and I, he's got a cocktail and a lemon cello, DJ Steve, and then you guys had soda as well. We had diet mole soda. Mole soda. Italian cola. But it was a lot. It was that thing where you're like,

did we order too much? Are we going to regret this? We like cleaned every plate. We felt great. We weren't sluggish. It was always surprisingly light while being healthy portions. Yes.

I told you to get an extra pasta. Because you were like, you were trying to figure out between the fish and the pasta. I said go for the extra pasta. Yeah. And I'm not keeping track, but I had one less slice of pizza than you two.

Not keeping track, but just letting you know I had one less slice of pizza than you two. Mitch did go, you guys, I don't need the extra slice. Setting us up for the fall. Actually, that actually wasn't what it was. Weig's Mr. Piggy had already had his third slice.

And then I graciously offered the guest, I kind of didn't want you to take it. You know, one of those things where you do want this? And then Griff took it and I was like, fuck, in my head, I was so mad. I shouldn't have taken the third slice. I miscounted. I thought like that we had there were enough slices

for us to each have. Okay, miscounted. I will say last time I saw Griffin, I took his extra slice. Do you remember this Griffin? And we described it as like a real turning point moment in our friendship where you were like, are you going to resent this?

And I was like, David, I genuinely think you're more hungry than I am. I would be happy to let you have. Wow. Oh, that's so nice. But, but maybe that's why he took the extra slice. It's like a butterfly effect. Yeah, well fucking mitro.

Right, yeah. So now I have to take a slice from someone else at some point? Yes, it'll just keep paying forward. I'm sure that will happen. Why is I actually, I also gave you a new nickname at the restaurant. Yes.

You're now the seagull because you were, you were pecking through these shells in your, in your pasta bowl. You got a clam and what was the dish like? Clams and mussels. Clams and mussels. This guy like a seagull. He was checking every shell.

He was picking through all the shells. Well, I didn't, I don't like, this is my thought process is, with, with eating any sort of animal protein, I'm always like conscious of how many life forms I'm consuming. And like, I, my, my thought is each of these is a soul. And so it feels extra wasteful as opposed to like, hey, I, there's one chicken wing left and I'm full.

Yeah, you can take it away. I don't need it. Although I'd never do that. But, but there, but like having like, like, hey, there's, there's a muscle or a clam here. Just like, well, this was, this was killed and cooked. And then it's just going to be like thrown in the dumpster and, and eaten by vermin.

It's essentially a sully plate. Yeah. 167 souls. Yeah. You're the, you're the seagull. I was driving home late. I didn't tell you this. Yeah, if I don't be the seagull, I don't fucking care.

But I saw, I saw a garbage truck and Weiger was slowly circling it on the way back. If I could just, I'm sorry. I need to retell. Check out play. I'll happily be the fucking seagull. I need to retell this story. Uh-huh.

Mitch says, why is I got a new nickname for you? And we go, okay. Then Mitch buries his head in his phone, looks at his phone for two silent minutes. And then you go, what's the nickname? And Mitch looks up and says, the seagull because you're picking at those clamps.

And I said, Mitch, did you take two minutes to Google and double check that seagulls will pick? And he went, no, you guys didn't ask me. So I started texting someone else. He set it up and just didn't pay it off and just started dealing with some other shit. Drew McQueen invited us to a movie. So I started texting him that we weren't going

to make it to the movie. But you said I got a new nickname for you and then looked down at your phone and started texting Drew. Yes, I'll say this. It was also very loud in this place. So loud. It was, it was, it was extremely loud.

And I don't know if it was because of this stupid party. I think this stupid probably. Yeah. But it was like, like hard to hear each other from across the table even. But uh, hey, the seagull killed. You guys liked it. It was good.

It was great. It was worth the wait. David, did you do the rooftop restaurant? I did the rooftop. So very nice vibes. No, no, you know, uh, enclosed acoustics or whatever. You know, the sound was just going into that beautiful Manhattan sky.

Nice weather. That rules. Very nice weather. It is unseasonably warm in Manhattan. And not just Manhattan in New York right now. It's in the high 60s. Yeah. Oh, and Quincy too.

It's not a competition, Mitch. I'm just saying it's the quit. And like, I said that day and I was like, that's kind of scary. He's like, yeah, it's the silver lining in the world ending. Basically, I was like, yeah, I guess so. But there it's three days of, of the 70s in, in, in Quincy. Yeah, it's going to be in the 70s in, in New York this weekend.

And I went at lunchtime. I'm a lunch boy. I love a lunch date. I love, you know, anytime because I have, because I, because I have a, a young baby. It's harder for me to do dinner. So I'm always, anytime anyone wants to hang out, I'm like, let's do lunch.

I like the term young baby, by the way. Yes. Young baby. She's a, she's like, when the baby gets an older baby, I guess it does make sense. No, no, it's, it's a non-sensical thing for me to say. No, no, Mitch, Mitch should drag me. I just think it's a funny thing to like, to think of a more distinguished baby.

Yeah. Sorry. As opposed to like the boss baby. It's a young baby. Yes. We call David Southern boss baby, by the way. Yes. Griff calls her the boss baby.

And she is increasingly the boss baby. Well, right. Now she's adapted to more behavior. Not in the work, but in temperament. There was a point when she was six months old and, and boss baby two family business was coming out. Yeah. Where they looked identical. Is that, is that?

Yeah. She knows, has there been a boss baby three or is that was boss baby two, the latest one? There's just two. The movie is back in business, the TV shows family, whatever the fuck it is, who gives a show? Yeah, there's a show and the show is very popular. Yeah.

If I can tell a story about a food related story about my daughter, she, I have a, I have a tower of spices. I have like a bunch of spices in this little like thing in the kitchen that she is obsessed with and she will pick up the spices and just take them and leave them all over the house. I think that she just thinks of them as like fun rattles, like fun, colorful toys. So yes, she's, she's obsessed with spices, but no.

So I, to explain, I had a, an already planned lunch date with my friend Lucy and then this record comes together and I texted Lucy and I said, Lucy, look, how do you feel about going to Italy baby? Cause this is, this is the only day I can go. We're going, we got to do it up. And I'm like, I got to do this for Doe boys and she was very good. Go nuts. I say that's perfect. Absolutely. And so I booked us a table at Sarah. It's called,

I believe, which is their rooftop restaurant at the New York location. C E R like Michael Sarah. No, it is not. I'm just asking. No, it would be funny if it was named in his honor. They've like like mascot characters dressed like Michael Sarah, like Ronald walking around dressed like all his characters. Oh, there's youth and revolt, Sarah. I love, I spotted that one. I love him. What's this music? Is this

Nick and Nora's infinite playlist? It's Sarah S E R R A. I don't, I don't know why it's called that. And in Italy, I never had been there before. And basically you just go to this weird hallway in the market that you wouldn't really even notice. It's like a dusty little hallway and there's one elevator and it takes you all the way to the 14th floor and that is, that is what you do. Wow. That's cool. That's cool. It sounds, it sounds, it sounds like a much better

setup than what we had. Yeah. It's a very relaxing vibe up there. It's sort of has this botanical garden feeling. It's pretty quiet. There's a lot of plants. Right. They got a lot of ivy and plants like over the roof. So it's like an open roof, but you're sheltered and it's pretty and it's cool. Got scared. You got scared. I look behind, I look behind me. There's a cacti. I almost, I almost put my hand in the cacti. Oh boy. Is that real? Is that a real cactus? It's not.

It's fake. I think you can touch it. That's plastic man. All right. Well, I was scared. I'll talk to Amir about this. We gotta get this thing out of here. You didn't look back over his shoulder like there was a ghost there. There's a cacti. Show me a look. We're we're we're a spoiler. We're gonna maybe taste test something later. It's right near the cacti. Okay. You can move it if it makes you uncomfortable. Yeah. It's gonna get the hell out of here.

I'm gonna talk to Amir after this. Get it out. Mitch's writer specifies no cacti. No cacti. Well, you gotta make it no cactus or cacti because no cacti allows one. That's where they can fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta get a good lawyer for that reason. I think I told Amir no cacti. Yeah. That's a no homers club. Yeah. Yeah. Let's let's talk about the food. Yes. Let's talk about the appetizers. What was the bottom section of the the the bruschetta bruschetta? There's a

caprese section. Oh, it's fuck. Yeah. God damn it. You're the right one. Yeah. So there was a cacti. Okay. I wish I knew Italian pronunciation better. Antipasti. Antipasti. There's a preemie and then there's a secundi and then there's also like pizza section and some sides you can get but yeah basically like you know I guess I guess if you're doing this in Italy you would get an adipasti a preemie which is a pasta course and then a secundi which is like a meter fish

course. Yeah. And then there is the best way to eat. Contorini or something. There was like the one section that was sides which is the one section we didn't really. Contorini. Yeah. Contorini. Yeah. Well, it was funny too because under the caprese section there was three items listed. I said I like barata and then why I said yeah or we could do the buffalo mozzarella or the other one and that's and he just mentioned the two other things besides the one I said I like. Which was

serious about this and then you're so mad. And then you're so mad. And then you're back up from Griffin. You can admit that it was strange. Yes. It was strange. I was just saying we had options. It's like there's three choices like red, yellow or green and you're like I love green and you're like yeah yellow and red could be good. That was your response. It was weird. That would be a weird conversation. I mean that would be bizarre. If it was literally about

color. Just looking at a traffic light. There would be a fight over that too. Because yellow is Lakers and green is Celtics. We would fight over the color. It's true. Green is better. Yeah. But you listen, listen, literally the two other things but then we did get the. We did get the barata. We did get the barata. We did get the barata. She did it. Bargy was like get one of the like we were just like hey can we get some wrecks and her wrecks were all

fucking bullseye. They were incredible and and here was the thing. She wasn't just saying. There was one app that was okay but it wasn't her fault. Uh no. No and we ordered a lot. Like not everything but but she was both like saying oh here are the things I like. Here are the things the customers like but she also was sort of strategically guiding us. Yes. Like if you want a diversity of things it's better to get the the preemie that is cheese heavy

and the anti-posty that like she was sort of diverted diverting our interests. We wanted we wanted to so here's the deal. We want diversifying our investments. Yes. She yeah. She she Margie we can't say enough about Margie but she got us an eggplant. It was like Homer. That was my I remember I had the uh oh wait no that was that was on the snack pack. I'm confusing Homer jokes. So is that not someone who never you know someone who never give up a

Homer. We were talking about pictures and then I said Marge but Margie but she look she is it does sound like Homer. Margie ruled. Yeah. And we were getting she told us right off the bat that the eggplant app was like very popular and so we had that kind of locked in and then there were there were a couple other apps that we were looking at but we wanted to get something from the crazy which is the which is the uh the brotha and then we also wanted to get a pizza

and she recommended because like the like uh one of the vegetarian pizzas so we could all share it uh what which what is an eggplant pizza and she was kind of like you get that and the eggplant parmesan is kind of redundant so maybe try one of the other ones. Maybe the eggplant pizza is better in relation to the other pizzas that the eggplant anti-pasta is in relation like she was really helping us balance things out. So we axed that money for shit app. Yeah

yeah it was great it worked out perfectly. I mean can I can I say the like the incredible judo move that she did I don't know if it's jumping ahead. No go for it. But we order like the anti-pasta in the pizza at first and then we're taking a moment to think over our premium secundi uh our andy seconda and uh second sec second oh fuck. Secundi's with seconda is what I was going to try to say is that what you did when you went there did you have any secundi's with

seconda? Uh we no we did we think we just had coffee and and cannolis. It might have gotten a slice of pizza or something. Yeah. Well it's truffle season. There are a lot of truffle options on the menu and a lot of options where you can add truffles to them and we're like smelling truffles like they're everywhere and Mitch is like I really want to hit truffles. Can we pick some truffle things? So we're looking at the the the steak which we're going to have

Weig's isn't going to have and there's the option of putting truffles on that. Yes. And then we're trying to pick a pasta we could share next to that. Or a substantial upcharge. Right. Uh right. It's it's I believe twenty eight extra dollars to get shaved truffle on the state. Twenty eight doughboys dollars. Yeah. Yes. Doughboys bucks dough bucks and then we're trying to pick a pasta and we're like uh we ask her what pasta would you recommend and she's like the

truffle pasta is the most popular and we said well but we're going to do the steak with the truffle so that feels like too much truffle and she went the cost of the truffle pasta in its entirety is less than the upcharge on the steak. If you get the steak without the truffles and the truffle pasta you're basically getting the truffles for free. Yeah. God damn. That was good. It was incredible. Yeah. It was it was it was really good. She's like lifting the veil though

really. She's like guys do the math. This is what's cool is it felt like her being like I'm I'm being straight with you guys. Yeah. I love that. This is real talk like this is honest. I feel like so often especially in places like this there's this corporate culture of like upsell upsell upsell right. You should be getting them to spend more at all times and the miscalculation is if someone like Margie does something like that we end up ordering more. Yeah. Because

she's raising our spirits. Yeah. 100% and I think we did end up ordering more. I mean we ordered a lot of food. A lot of food. So I'll just list a list a few things and then Sims I want to I want to hear about your meal with Lucy as well. We got a so we got the we ended up getting the squash blossoms. Yep. We got a tuna crudo. We got the the the burrata that was mentioned and then we got the eggplants the eggplant pizza and that was kind of like our first course or

appetizer course if you will. Sims what did you start off with. So we started off with let's see we got the we got the burrata as well. I mean I cannot resist burrata ever especially this came with like grilled bread. I don't know if you guys got grilled bread. Grilled bread. No we got seasonal cherry tomatoes. The fuck Margie. That sounds nice but I took a picture of the grilled bread by itself just because it was such handsome bread. Wow. Did it have like a

good toast on it? A good little grill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah but without too much you know not too it just had the perfect amount. Margie if you're listening you broke my fucking heart Margie you broke my heart. This is Homer when she found out about jock. No one. Simpsons writers don't even get that right. Margie's in love with another man. Right. No one has done Mar the Margie you brought me a turkey song. That's what I keep picking. Yeah. For some our menu had

inexplicable dishes that were highlighted in orange and we could not understand if it was signifying anything except for these are good. It means Margie's props. So we kept kind of ordering the orange ones you know maybe maybe just because we were drawn to them which probably is the idea. So we got a faro salad the grain you know so which was toasted faro chicory honeycrisp apples cranberry vinaigrette that was pretty great and then we got the we got the fried

calamari which is another thing I am just a sucker for in pretty much any menu. Those were our starters which came with a caper aioli which was quite nice. Yes. Yes. Sort of a different thing. I'm not a huge caper guy but the caper aioli sounds right up my alley. I am similarly I do not love it when they just dump a ton of capers onto something and they're like a briny flavor for you. I not but yes it was it was a application of capers. So those were our yeah those were

our starters. Did you get anything to drink Sims? We were drinking Diet Cokes. It was one PM on a you know on a Wednesday but it was perfect you know a tall slender glass Diet Cokes with the big ice cubes you know. But it was Diet Coke and not Italian cola. No I did not get any fancy Italian cola. That does sound fun. It was fun. It was like tall cans like tall skinny it was like a Pellegrino can of cola. Yeah. Did it taste better or worse? I think it was

about the same. I mean it tasted like a like a you know it you know it kind of tasted like a like one of those artists in diet sodas. Yes. I hit my hand on the cube too. I'm telling you. I hit my hand on the cube and then I almost knocked it off. Is this is this the new cube movie? Like this is the new horror. Uh Mitch and I got Italian gin and tonics which were very refreshing and they had like a nice little sprig in them. Yes they were

yeah they were refreshing. It was good. It was they it was they always Italian. I was just saying this you're like Italian liquor and drinks like I like I don't like a spritz. I'm not a spritz man and the apparel spritz. Right you were saying you want to stay away from the bitter. Yeah. I don't like the bitter side. It wasn't too bad. There was a little bit of bitter in there. Yeah. It was all right. Um and then also we we'll talk we'll get to the

limoncello but I hope that you did at first ask if you could get a limoncello to start which is the opposite of the narrative order. I just wanted to I want to I saw it when walked in so I see us. Yeah. Right. But Sims how was how was that Faro was it a J Faro salad? You're in New York so I'm wondering. Uh yeah. Did that tell it have a Denzel in the pocket ready to go? Right. Killer impressions but like that's mostly it and Obama but they waited four years to let

the salad do it. Remember and it's like we finally have someone to do Obama and then he did a very competent and boring Barack Obama. Anyway, um uh the Faro salad was great. That was the most surprising starter we got. Like that was that like fried calamari and burrata you know those are faves. I love those. They're going to make me happy but like the Faro salad was like a little interesting. It was a little fruity. Uh I'll send a picture of it. It's not the

most attractive dish but uh I do like Faro though. I don't know what you guys think of the green Faro but I'm a Faro. I'm a Faro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A pro Faro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We all love Faro. I was trying to think of some mommy reference. I couldn't do it. Um but uh I uh we are our I don't know if there's any surprising apps for us but I thought that the tuna tartar was the weakest of the bunch. It was the only one that felt kind of perfunctory. It wasn't

bad but everything else over delivered and we were like wow that's surprisingly good. Yes. And the tuna tartar was exactly what you'd imagine it to be. It was fresh fish. It was like underdressed I feel like it felt like there should have been something on there or something. They gave us we didn't get the the grilled bread but we got the little sort of toasted thin sliced bread for the tuna. Yeah. Which kind of those whenever you did like the crouton bread it's never you

never that excited. It's a cracker thin slice. Yeah. Kind of for scooping and also doesn't really but not but not super functional. Uh what I will say Mitch is that that to your point about it being perhaps under season or needing more sauce because basically you're just tasting tuna and it was quality yellowfin tuna but that was basically all you were getting. It it has mustard cayenne and olive oil like listed as a component so it's like okay

mustard cayenne maybe they'll also have a little something to it but no you didn't really get much of that. No. It was pretty under uh underwhelming. That said it was it was a good fish which is I guess the the the main thing you want. Fresh fish I mean come on. What are we gonna do? The pizza that was was great. It was super thin. Yes. The pizza was good. There was a little bit. It was a little floppy in the front and then in the in the back when you really got the

the the griff suggested that we take a corner piece. Right because I grabbed a corner piece you guys grabbed from the middle and you were complaining about like the the thinness of the dough and I said if you get a corner that final bite's gonna he was the one who brought the thinness. It was okay. I'm not I'm not putting blame here. It was why it was why it was me. It was fine. Why did you complain about it? I didn't complain about it. I just said it was thin.

It was thin. It was very thin. It was very it was it was flopping. It was flopping a little bit. Yeah. There was more stability to the corner pieces and you also got a better taste of the dough. Right. Yeah. But I thought I thought a good we we said that it was like a a good airport style pizza which is like these little flatbread pizzas. I think it's only so good that they can be or you know what I mean? Like uh the ingredients all tasted good though. The

dough the dough and the sauce and the cheese it all tasted good but like not you're not gonna rank that like one of the I don't know. You guys had three slices so you can probably talk about it more than one of the best pizzas I ever had but like you you said the airport thing and you were like is that mean and I said I think that's more an indication of the fact that airport pizza has gotten better. Yeah. The airport pizza now tries to imitate this

level of sort of like thin area Italian pizza and it was better than the airport version of that. This is what the airport's chasing. Um but it was no. It was a good slice but Tally had a pizza restaurant in called Otto for years. Yes. That was phenomenal. It was very very good. Hey Bart dude, what's a pizza? But so if I'm looking at the but Tally pizza scale I'd give it four or five Otto Bong rips

but Otto itself was a full five. Wow. Yeah. Look he also I don't know if you've ever been to Lupa Griffin which is on Houston Street but that's a former Batali restaurant. I whatever he doesn't you know own any of these things anymore. Yeah he's divested from all of them at one point. I know fucking 20 restaurants. It's one of the best spots in the city and I feel like no one even talks about it anymore and it fucking rules. I'm gonna loop it.

I gotta loop all the time. Some of them post-Batali have dropped way the fuck off. Yeah. Anyone can walk and get a table at any time. There's no heat and some of them have like completely weathered the post-Batali storm with new leadership. Wow. I look one of like and a couple of them closed like Otto. My my introduction to like one of my like I feel like first fancy L.A. dinnerswags was at Motso which was Silverton and Batali and look like his

restaurants they had good food there and I don't know is it is it Joe Bastanesh or or whatever who's in who does Eataly? Is he one of the people who's in charge of the of Eataly? I had trouble finding who the current leadership is. I'm sure if I dug a little bit more I could have figured it out. The girl is going right isn't it? Yeah. Well, I have no idea. Doing the boom booms. I don't know. I shouldn't talk about this. Wait, wait, who is this guy? Wasn't this the

fucking the Italian guy who had the sex parties? Oh my god. It's the it's Bunga Bunga. Yes, he would have orgies where they would perform an African style ritual known as the Bunga Bunga in the nude. This is the former prime minister of Italy, which he was a Mario Batali of Italian politics, which he was like he like he had no shame about it either, right? Wasn't he just kind of like? Yes, he's one of those guys that's like 95 years old, but he's still just is like

frozen. His face is just increasingly like this like marble slab. It's very strange. I can't understand how these these decrepit ghouls have such high libidos well into their golden year. You're talking Italians in general or? I mean, I wasn't making a broad racial stereotype. I was more saying like old man. All Italians are decrepit ghouls. No, I meant like someone like Sumner Redstone. You'd hear like Sumner Redstone would like have like a like there's

like there's like a released voicemails of him talking calling up fucking Robert Evans being like, hey, I want you to you would take our pricks out. We're both have sex with his broad. He'll suck us off. It's the last 20 years of his life looking like he couldn't pick up a pencil. Yeah, right. Yeah, he was on oxygen and he was just still like what demanded sex and and steak every day. Yeah, we have we yes, we have his libido like on his last day of life.

Um I yeah, I I I don't get it either way. It's it's my blog but I gotta say this because the the after that the the courses just started coming. The courses started coming. They didn't stop coming. We got yeah for for pasta. We uh we got the uh the uh shally a telly shally a telly instead of the pronunciation something like that and that was the the which is a pasta with muscles and clams and and then the the one and this is kind of like a a tomato

sauce. I don't know this decrepit ghouls fucking pronounce this shit. I have no idea and then the tagliolini which is the one with the truffle uh they were both they're both delightful. I mean I think the truffle was the star but I think the seafood pasta was quite nice too. I I like like a muscle. I liked it. You're seagull in it and and we we we had we had we had our truffle pasta and I I would I said this to Griff kind of light just kind of a light nice pasta.

It was a nice sort of thin almost like an angel hair kind of pasta. The the clam muscle pasta was a thicker noodle with a heavier sauce. Not too truffly either. No, no, not too truffly. No, I think what what really works is when you you're eating it and it's you you taste this homemade pasta. It's like delicious homemade pasta. You taste the different. You do and it was it was great and and it has that bite. It's perfectly cooked. It's got the nice springy you know al dente

thing. You any noodles, David? Yes, we got the ravioli de zucca, which is butternut squash ravioli with toasted hazelnut and brown butter and sage. Watch it sounds in season. The best. And I I always love it. Whenever I have been in Italy, I will get whatever that is like whatever kind of hazel nutty ravioli they got going on because it's always special in my opinion. And then we got the cast sunrace con ragu de funghi. So it's sort of like a you know

mushroom ragu with like we're embarrassing ourselves being like I don't know how you pronounce it and then Sims casually tosses off perfect. Yeah, my Italian is not good. I but the thing about Italy and best at the thing about Italy is whenever you're in Italy and you attempt the pronunciation, they just so like oh bravo. You know, like yes, very good. You know, it's like where is in France? If you try to pronounce anything, they just like and or answer

you in perfect English, you know, and look at you like you're a worm. They truly they wag their finger at you and tisk tisk and then go you want the hamburger. I'm not exaggerating. That happens. Yeah. Wow. In Italy. I mean, one of my favorite ever moments in all cuisine is when I was like 20 years old in Italy, we went to a restaurant in Florence that was like for workers, like for like construction guys, like, you know, everyone in it was like in a little

like hard hat and like, you know, glowing vest and there was no menu and we're just these stupid tourists who had like found this place in a book and we sit down and the guy comes over and he's like, I'm sorry. And we were like, oh, he's telling us the food and we were just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds good, but he didn't speak any English and it was beautiful. And then he gave us the greatest ham and melon I've ever had. Oh, wow. And then gave us like pasta with

pesto or whatever. It was great. It's still my favorite. It's the best Italian food is still my favorite. It's still my number one in Boston food. Number one, Italian number two Boston is number one. Sure. It's the best food, but like also the way they do it as Nick is saying, you know, they're like, oh, you get a couple of little starters. You get a salad. You get a pasta. You get a main. You eat this over a long time. You somehow don't feel ridiculous. Like it's the best

way to eat. It's so nice. It's a quality of life thing. You're just like, I'm eating like good ingredients prepared simply but intelligently. I'm like so satisfied and I'm not walking out of here like a fucking indulgent cheesecake factory meal, which no disrespect. I'm a fucking disgusting pig and I love going to these places and ordering dumb things and having fun. And then I spend the next four days on the toilet. It was so great to walk out of here and

be like, we finished everything. We were still hungry, but not like unsatisfied. Yes. Not unsatisfied at all. In fact, I'm so hungry now my stomach is rumbling and I want to get to our snack segment so I can eat. Yes. I want, I also want to do that because that I'm actually, I keep eyeing this box. We're doing a buy coastal snack or what? Yes. The only other thing I want to say is there were only five pastas on the menu. We got the two that's the most interesting and all

the pastas were like in the sort of 20, $25 range except for the truffle gnocchi, which we did not get, which was $65. Wow. So that's, that's their gnocchi upcharge. No boys dying. We should have done it. I, we, we, I thought about it and I was like, we won't, I mean, it's 65 bucks for like what will be a little bowl of gnocchi with truffles is I don't think I can handle 28 all in. Yeah. It's kind of wild. Also, you made Wiger quote a famous New Yorker, the critic. Yeah.

This was Urbani white truffle. I don't know if Urbani white truffle is fancier, but I don't know. We had white, I don't, I don't remember the specific. The black truffle was more on the, so we only had white truffle and then the black truffle adding it to the steak was $38. Yeah. And no, the white truffles, you got them flipped. The black truffle was cheaper. The white truffle was the one that was expensive. Yeah. I thought it was $38 for the, because, because

we had white truffle in the pasta, right? Are you looking at the menu right now? The menu I'm looking at now, it's the, it's the white truffle upgrade is $38, which is the same price as the pasta that we got. And then the black truffle was 70. Wow. Yeah. Um, we chose mention, the steak we had was incredible. Yes, we didn't, we didn't get to the bizteca, which was just a well-prepared steak. You and I kind of looked at each other and it was on the menu and I like, we

didn't know what to do because we both wanted it. Right. And so we got it and that's why we did the pot of the pot, like we split two sides and then why is you got a fish dish, correct? Yeah, I got the, I got the swordfish, which is a Margie recommendation. You recommended that or the brand, you know. It was good. Yeah, it's quite good. The brandzina was a whole fish and I like getting a whole fish, but it's also like, that's a commitment and that's also a

lengthy eating experience. So it's kind of like, I'll just do the filet. That's when we tossed on your seafood pasta, but I just want to quickly say that, but no man, my stomach is going to rumble again. I don't want to talk about it. It's an issue because I want to talk about the food, but it's making me hungry. If you bring it up, it triggers another rumble. It's the rumbles are coming. Emma's on the ones and twos here. She'll turn his mic down, his stomach mic down.

It's fine. Emma, will you turn down my rumbles? I'll turn the rumbles up. The voice is down. I'm on it. Emma, is there like a rumbles filter you can do to boost that rumble? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Look, I'm going to just talk over rumble if it happens. So if I interject during one moment, it's because the rumble has come on. You should have eaten something earlier. I had a banana. Yeah, you you rolled up with a of a single banana, which for you walking around just holding a

bit a loose banana, just asking to be called Donkey Kong. It's shirtless. I was at Nintendo Land earlier too. Yeah. Um Big red tie. I, all right. The Bizteca. Oh, here we go. The Bizteca. The rumble is going to start. Hold on. It's going to come. Maybe I'll put the microphone. If I, if one's coming, I'll let everyone hear. Okay. Um, but we, Griff, we, we, we knew we wanted the Bizteca and I gotta say, not huge, like the

portion was an issue. No, it was sort of thinly sliced. It wasn't a massive cut. It was delicious. It was so, it was really, really, really good. We both took a bite, looked each other and went like, holy shit, because they weren't doing anything fancy, but it was just such good meat. It was so good. And it was just like a little salt on the side. That's it. There was no sauce. It was just beautifully prepared, just lowering his mic to his tummy. Served on a, a wooden

cutting board. Yeah. And as you noted, just a, a, a gigantic pool of blood. There was blood pooling around there. There was blood that pulled into like the crevice on the side of the board and it kind of looked like a, it looked like what vampires do to drink blood. It was like collecting it. There's the bit in the first Hellboy where like Rasputin cuts himself and the blood trickles into the pattern on the floor to like unlock. That's what it looked like. Yeah.

And so, and it came with a little side, like a rugula side salad, which was nice. But it was all just so simple and so excellent. It was, it was, it was, it was, it had great taste. It was, and there was a little salt that we were dipping our, the salt turned bloody. Yeah. Red salt. It was, it was fantastic. It looked like we were on the planet crate. It did, I hate to admit it. You have to. It looked like the planet crate. Yeah. It was red and salt. Foxes.

Crystal Fox. Yeah. Yeah. It's been surprised. As you're talking about this, you all realize that you say you like this movie. We do. We do. The movie with the red salt in the bad looking foxes you all like. These cool things we're talking about. And also at the same time, there's a mirage Mark Hamill in this scene. It's cool. That's a cool to be. It's cool. Isn't it because we're a person again that I'm like, shut the fuck up. That movie sucks. Why are you lying?

No one even cares about it anymore. Would you believe that Last Jedi was litigated for 15 minutes over a lemon cello lesson? Because we were digesting our food? Did we talk about it last night? Yes. What did we talk about? Okay. Now I'm glad I wasn't there. I was jealous until I heard this. Yes. There was also like you brought it up in reference to like someone who wasn't there's opinion about the Last Jedi and you're thinking they were insincere. Right. Saying that

you thought they were pretending to like it and like or and I were like, we both like it. Who was the person who believed them? Oh, yes. I know who it was. Don't say it. I know who it is. Anyways, the Last Jedi is really bad. It's a bad movie. Casey Anya. Have you seen Last Jedi? Yeah. Do you like it? I think I do like it. Oh, you. Wow. That was the saddest that you don't I can tell. I don't I don't like there are parts I don't like but there are parts I really

love. This is fascinating now because it's so it's so exhausting to have any opinion in the Last Jedi. You asked Casey and Anya and both of them like clench their teeth. It's so clear that it's like I lose either way. Whatever I say here. Anya, what do you think? Never seen a single Star Wars in my whole life. Wow. Kind of the only safe answer at this point. I love it. It's great. Don't do it for your mental health. I can't. Yeah, it's hard. Yeah. I don't think I'm gonna like it now.

Yeah, I don't think I I I think you're cool. You're from Massachusetts. You're not gonna like it. Now, I'm I'm curious of way. I think Emma's in a similar boat but I can't remember Emma if you have an opinion on the Last Jedi. She's never seen it wise. I thought so. That was the case. Nope. Only the original. And you absolutely can't see it now with your job. No. No, I think it would lose my job. Anyways, I was gonna fucking go. She's lying about liking that

movie. It did look. Yeah. The salt looked like great. It's true. But unlike that film, this was a beautiful dish. It tasted fantastic. It didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. Okay. All right. For me, it was the last Jedi of steak. I love it. My stomach rumbled during that. I tried to do it. I couldn't pick it up in time. But if we were just talking about the steak, it triggered it. Sure. I we got to talk about the desserts. We got to get Sims out of here. Yeah. Let me let

me let me just real quick. The swordfish you guys each had a bite. I'm not sure we had to take on it. It nicely grilled. It's like a Meyer lemon sauce and capers on it. Not too many capers. Right balance of capers. Then just a little little side of some greens. I don't know. That delightful dish. It's really good. It took a bite. I love this fish. Swordfish is a great fish. I made swordfish the the night I proposed to my wife. Wow. Swordfish for her. Yes. Did you put

the ring on the sword nose of the I sure did not. I did not do that. No, I had two swordfish steaks. I did not have a nose to do anything with. But I remember that. Yes. Swordfish is good. Sims, you're a you're a sikundi. I we we we were all pasta. We didn't. Wow. Okay. Wow. Okay. I'll I'm gonna say this. Having just said that I love the way Italians eat food, like I love the the the procession of courses. I when I go to Italian restaurants, I end Italian restaurants in Manhattan

or whatever. I usually am like just get more pasta. The sikundi is not worth it. Like you're gonna, you know, you're gonna pay $45 for like, you know, some cod. Like it'll be fine. Like just the pasta is the thing they're best at. Like overload on the pasta. I think that's why we were hesitant to order the steak because we were like, is it silly to get it here? Should we just get more pasta? But the steak over delivered. The steak was great. Yeah. I'm feeling the steak

sounds nice. Yes. Oh, it's just part of the night. Okay. I should have gotten steak. It's all look like great. I think it was the lunch vibes too. We were so happy with our pasta. We'd eaten so much. Sure. That makes sense. Yeah. But yeah, whatever. Anyway, it was, it was a nice meal. We did not need it, but they're, they have everything. Just lowering the mic again. They've got a benzino. They've got a chicken breast. They've got a steak. You know, they've got all the

stuff you're supposed to offer up. You know, it looks like a fine main dishes. Did you get any sweet treats? You get a dessert? We sure, we split the tiramisu. I mean, they had like, it was a tiny little pocket sized menu with like two, it was like tiramisu, panna cotta, something else that wasn't that interesting. We were, we immediately knew we wanted the tiramisu. It was, it came in a little jar, you know, that presentation or it's kind of like, you know, it's not the

sort of little, the little square of tiramisu, but it's like a little kind of, you know, glass of tiramisu. It was very nice. It's the only picture I have where we had started eating it before I took a picture because we were so eager to eat it. I love a tiramisu. Wow. Right? What'd you guys get? Yeah, I love a tiramisu. We, there were four desserts. There were four desserts on our menu and we got, okay. We got every single one. Yeah, I mean, Mitch, obviously

from the beginning had been talking about how badly he wanted the lemon cello and they give us the dessert menu and two of the four desserts are lemon cello infused. Yes. And then there was a sidebar lemon cello menu. Yes. And we, and Griff and I both got a lemon cello. Yeah. And lemon cello is pretty good. It was pretty good. We were fucking going full DeVito. We, we, we were in full DeVito mode. I, I, I was very sipping the lemon cello. I was very, I was a happy man

because like the restaurant also started to die down. It got quiet in a nice way. Yeah. People have left that they turn the music down. They started playing Abba. It went from being this like thumping, like a sort of DJ track to now you're just playing fun party music. And we said, hey, we're we're into, we went full DeVito. We were in full DeVito mode. We're clinking lemon cello glasses. It was, it was, it was a blast. I loved it. And we had all four desserts lined

up and all of them were pretty good. I thought there was, I thought there was, we, and get the Sims. We ranked them in order of what we liked. Okay. And I was back on fourth on what no one and two was, which we'll get to in a second. But Margie matched our ranking of the dessert. She roughly matched the consensus. Yeah. Without, without being. She knew. Yeah. She knew. We were so insane. That's someone who's eaten everything on the menu. That's what you want in a good waiter.

Yes. Someone who's like, yeah, I know. I know what the stars are. Genuine opinions. And we were like, this is the one that's lagging behind. And she was like, yeah, that one's dropped off. It's dropped off. It used to be bigger and better. Yeah. I'm checking, I'm checking my watch because I know Sims has to get out of here and we do, we do have something we want to taste. So we'll speed through the desserts and then we'll get to our final thoughts. We got the

that micro machine mode. A lemon sponge cake, a rum soaked yeast cake, which was kind of like a, a, honestly, like a cream, cream puff, uh, form factor. Had a little cream filling inside. That was the dropped off one. Yeah, that was our least favorite. We got a chocolate and almond flourless cake, which we all ranked one or two. And then we also got the lemon cello soaked ladyfingers, uh, all AKA the tiramisu. The, the man, it would, the, the other

three I thought were really great. The, the third place was what that the, was that the ladyfingers one or is that? Yeah. And, and that, which was good. The cookies, especially on the bottom, were good. Yeah, they were nice. But the one and two were so good in that chocolate almond cake was really great. And that's the one I was flipping on, but you guys thought number one was the, it was, I mean, I was saying like, which ever one you've taken a

bite of more recently, you immediately go, well, that has to be number one. And then you tried the other one and you flip again, but it was like a cold torta with ice cream that was just so classic and simple, which we thought we were like, is it gonna, like too cold? Like it felt like the cake should have been hot, but it did. It worked so well. And then this lemon thing was just like so light and airy and beautiful. Yeah. Delightful. Delightful

meal. Fantastic service. Uh, let's get to our final thoughts on Eataly. Uh, so David, uh, we'll begin with you, uh, your closing arguments, uh, based on a lifetime of experiences at this chain and then your fork score from zero to five. I think Eataly is for, I mean, for a chain quite impressive. I've only ever been to the one branch. So I guess I cannot testify to its consistency across all branches, but I do feel like the, the store, once you're

over the sticker shock is at least in New York, surprisingly easy to plan like a week's meals with, you know what I mean? Like it's not just that you're gonna get fancy Italian specialties. Like they got good vegetables and fruit there. They got nice, they got a good butcher counter there. Like the, it's, it's not some, you know, bullshit store filled with like, you know, whatever fancy endorsed props, uh, fancy endorsed, uh, properties. I

don't know what I'm trying to say, but Eataly's nice. I like Eataly. I had never eaten at the restaurant before I had only eaten like sandwiches and they had like a sort of roast beef counter. I'd had that before. So I had sampled a lot of the cheaper stuff. The restaurant was uniformly very good. Everything we ate, we were totally satisfied by for the price, I would say it felt like we were basically paying like fancy Manhattan restaurant prices for what was like B

plus a minus food. Does that make sense? You know what I mean? Like I'm like, if I, you know, I could probably pay this and eat at essentially a sort of like Michelin star very nice Italian restaurant in New York and it would be, it would be a little better and it would, they would lay it on a little thicker, but I had no real complaints. I am, this is a weird one to give a rating to though. Like where are you guys, how are you guys feeling about, you guys seem pretty

positive on eating. I'm sorry. Something incredibly bizarre has happened in the studio. While you were giving your review and we listened to it and it was a great review on the land on books in a second, but something has to be Why did you just start to chomp on a fucking apple in the middle of your phone away? Behind his shoulder took out a tightly wound ball of napkins, unfurled it like he was going to reveal a diamond. It was an apple and they took a

fucking honkin bite. The man making fun of me for only eating banana. He made fun of me for only eating banana and then he pulls out an apple. We're about to eat the snack. I knew everyone was going to be talking for a bit and so I'd have a little stretch to lean back. So that's why I support it. The man knew he wasn't going to talk. He wanted an apple. I ate an apple right before this dough boys. So I'm with him on apples. It triggered my stomach too. I started to

rumble again. The wrapping in the napkin, it was more the thing because it was like, he reaches out for something. I'm like, is this a bit he's setting up that it's an apple? Look, but also, you guys went so quiet. A thing which has a complicated relationship too. Let's also acknowledge. That is true. That is true. I was going to tell you, I was relieved when he took a bite out of it. I was happy. I know you were just being polite and listening to me. Yes. But I was

also like, did I do something weird? I almost felt like a weird, chilly atmosphere. We were all vibrating. Who's going to say it? You should have known that Wags did something very weird. He ate the apple. I'm just worried about the clock because we got it. All right. I'm going to give I'm going to give Italy four forks. I think it's a solid four forker. I'm basically limiting it out of a golden plate club situation because, sorry, a platinum plate club situation

because of the price. I just, you know, but I think that, I don't think the price is entirely unjustified. It is high end gourmet stuff that's well done and they have good quality control. I've never gotten anything at Italy that I thought sucked, but it's just always going to be a thing where I'm like, I can't go there much. I can't do this myself. It's a special occasions place. We were sort of looking at four forks to move into have a little blank check studio and

for a while we were looking in that neighborhood and it was one of those things that felt a little dangerous about like if Italy's on our block. Oh sure. Yeah. You know, we were like we'll end up there too much. Right. Yeah. It'll be too much, but if I if I can go at please my my birth, I want to say it was such a satisfying meal. The worst things we had were only paling in comparison to how good everything else was. There's nothing I regretted eating or that really let me

down. It was truly just a game of contrast because everything else was punching so high above its weight class. I also want to say at certain point I'm looking at the menu and I turn to you guys and I was like, this might be like one of the more expensive meals you've ever done on the show, but then I think about there are times you've talked about places that are sort of like second tier high end chains where I feel like your final total was more than this. It's certainly like a

pirate's dinner adventure cost more than this. Yeah. You know, and like it's Chris Steakhouse, which I have no problem with Ruth's Chris, but this is a higher quality of what we had compared to the price. It's like the prices are more respectable for the restaurants sit down than it is as a market. And I think if you compare it against other things at this price tier, especially for a quote unquote chain, Mitch at the end admitted to Margie that we were

there eating for a podcast and I said like you should understand we're not like this isn't like a high end food podcast. We're going to be comparing this to McDonald's. And when you're looking at it on that scale, you're like for what we spent, it really delivered. It really hit the spot, but that's why you almost are like compared to chain restaurants. This has to be a five, but if the question is how is it delivering? This is my food. Right. I was this this

I know that obviously you're always judging a thing against its peers, but I was not quite sure how to think about this on a on a five and this place is essentially asking you to judge it against the best restaurant in Tuscany, which on that scale, I'm like solid for solid respectable for it was a really enjoyable meal. Well, so so far it's still in the look I had to leave to get spoons kind of. Yeah. Where is your want to do and and first segment just because on the spoon

man and also get some lactate, even more clues. I got lactate for you and for thank you. But I look fatally bad fatally is a bad guy. They bounced him. You almost give me credit. Yeah. They got rid of him. He's gone. And look, I don't it's last night was filled with like these people who work in the entertainment industry who are like millionaires and billionaires. You're like, what the fuck do you do? I like, you know, these these West Side people, like I said that

we're I have 12 flights of stairs just these people. You don't understand what they do. Like I said, it was like eyes wide shut. Yeah. Eyes wide shut light in but I'm not going to deny that we had a great time and I'm going to put a ton of that credit to Margie. She deserves five out of five forks ten out of ten. I mean, she's she's above and beyond. Yeah. She got whatever the creeps name. What was the creep? He's not a creep. He was very nice. Isaiah. We loved Isaiah. She

wins the Isaiah award. She wins the Isaiah award. Who's not a creep? Uh a good man. Um but she wins the Isaiah. Why is he mad at me? No, it's fine. Um I I think that it's a very interesting place. I I'd never been in there before. I have to go back to experience it without the five-year anniversary party because it's it like I want to shop around. I want to shop around and buy some stuff and then sit down and eat. Maybe I'll go with you in Secunda for the next trip. Oh how

fun. Um I'm sorry to happen. Um it's just not going to happen. Let's be honest but but what I saw, I really like liked Wags. I I I think it is an interesting place. They obviously care about food. The the ingredients were all great. Like in in the service was fantastic. Yeah. After we were let in and after they stopped watching us. Um so for that reason, I gotta go four and a half for four and a half forks. I think I don't know even though why I wouldn't go

five forks. I I don't know like there's for what it's trying to do. You know what? I think I gotta go five forks. It's unfair because you're right. It is it is but it costs less than Pirates Dinner Adventure. Yeah, I was gonna say I I've been regretting my score. I'm gonna bump line up to four and a half. Four and a half. I say five forks for me. Wow. Uh I'm not gonna go five forks but this place still could potentially be in the Golden Play Club. Why not five forks?

Well, you'll get to it. Well, I think it's it's just fucking expensive and like the the market side of it I think has to be a value. We didn't really get to to experience it because of that event. Sure. But you know, the market side, it's nice. They have great but the meal side wasn't super expensive for what it was. What it was but it was also very expensive. Sure. I mean, this is like this was a lot of money. We were spending a this is not a a dinner you could do regularly

unless you was a huge dinner for the for three of us and the total was in the $300. It's a lot of money. We ordered a lot agree with you. Yeah. We ordered a lot of food. It's a lot of I'm saying it but the like the steak was like was 28 bucks or something. Right. Right. It was 30 or 30 bucks. I mean like it wasn't $78 steak. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. You can spend more at other restaurants to hold against this place that it's expensive. It's just a thing that I I feel like is is part of

the Italy experience is you're going to be spending a lot of money. I think it's inevitable. I think the service was very good. I do think it's a little weird atmospherically like I just like just in general like it's like you are in a nice restaurant but you're also kind of in a food court and we were crashing a birthday party. You were crashing a birthday party but also but that's the reason that I would maybe bump it down to four and a half. But even if you were eating there normally

it would it would just kind of feel like it it kind of feels like you're in like a a a Vegas casino floor. Like it's just sort of like you know it's a little bit kind of a chaotic and cacophonous. That said Griffin brought up the cheesecake factory earlier. I would favorably compare this to the cheesecake factory because what they're able to accomplish at this scale like it's it's impressive that like they like hey we have we're doing all these things and with this

gigantic you know floor plan this is this is this gigantic restaurant space and we're we're trying all these different things and we're succeeding at all of them at all these different locations. I would say it is a little bit like a kanto bite situation. Yeah it is kind of a kanto bite. Did you just look it up? Kanto bite. B. I. T. E. kanto bite. Yeah we had some good kanto bites last time. Kanto bite of the night. Did it take you a second to realize that kanto bite is the

shitty casino from last year? I knew I knew what it was. And you like that segment? It's the cool kanto bite. It's cool. Oh my god. That great that great shot where they go through the table. Okay it's an improv everywhere that you guys are doing to me. I'll go four forks for Italy. Welcome to the golden plate. Wow. I still don't get I look I'm just saying like I get it's an expensive restaurant and I know that that like if a restaurant is too expensive to miss but I thought

the prices were reasonable there. I think at the restaurant the right price is like an apple bees. Sure. Yeah. I mean yet look it's you're you're getting good food. I think that like I'm I'm I'm trying to holistically evaluate the entire chain. The entire restaurant. Can I have the same score? Yeah four is very four is a good score. Yeah. All right. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more dough boys and we're gonna do a segment. We're back after this. Hey you

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checkout. Do it. Welcome back to dough boys. We are with David Sims, Griffin Newman, the blank check podcast, Griffin and Disenchanted. Come to Disney Plus tomorrow. Wow. November 18th. November 18th. Uh but you know we gotta do a segment and let's get into it. From Head Gum Studio in Silver Lake. This is Serial. A segment told one bowl at a time. Jesus. This is a crack call from the penitentiary from Captain Crunch.

I walked in and Toucan Sam was lying in a pool of blood. Yummy Mummy was in there sucking himself off. Okay. Was that the addition? The Yummy Mummy part was the addition. Oh yeah that was new. This is almost a monster crossover now. I guess so. Uh so uh can you believe by the way that they finally released Captain Crunch that he's just like walking free again now? It's unbelievable. It's so weird. Could we just thought he'd be in there forever? Yeah we thought he'd die in

there. Yeah. No he's just out and about. Yeah. A couple things right before this started Lies you said Spoon Man Milk Me or was it Milk Me Spoon Man? I said Milk Me Spoon Man because we have some cereal. These are the Pandora Frosted Flakes. The Pandora which honestly, canonically, are Pandora Flakes. Pandora Flakes. With blueberry flavored blue moons. Yes I was gonna say these are they're not frosted flakes, right? The title is obscured by Pandora. No good point.

Yeah blueberry flavored blue moons and then Tony is on the cover uh wearing a a scarf and uh there's also the Avatar logo. Now it's an interesting choice because you're David I think you're about to say what I'm gonna say. Why isn't he blue? Thank you. He's gonna be blue. Tony should be an avid. You can make that guy Navi so quick. He's got the stripes. He's a cat. He's got the nose and the tail. Yes. Instead it is classic Tony not modified in any way other than his classic red Tony

handkerchief, neckchief, just has the little Pandora floating stripes on it. But like was that some meeting at Kellogg's where like someone was like you know what would be fun is if we made Tony blue and Kellogg's was like yeah that's not gonna happen. This is my question. It's insane. It doesn't make any sense. My question is like did Cameron shut it down or did Kellogg shut it down? I think Kellogg shut it down. Yeah I would guess so too. Who was being protective of their

characters? You know? The avatar the the Navi have like tiger stripes don't they? They look like Tony the tiger. His nose is blue. No one should probably fucking sue James Cameron. I mean like you should just call him up. You're like a great aliens. That was probably the compromise. They made his nose blue. His nose is always blue. Instead of where it is. I believe so. Can we look up classic Tony? Oh it says no classic Tony. And also instead of they're great he should be saying

like I see you or something. His nose is always blue. I see you. Griffin is correct. Griffin his nose is blue. Yeah I know my Tony. Wow. I like that. Yeah I see you. Can I say something right away? Yeah I get to the first bite. Just about opening the box. This is not even about my first bite. The aroma was intense on opening the box. I don't know if that's true for you guys but I got a real blueberry waft coming out of the box when I opened it up. Yeah this is funny because I

like everything about this except for the taste maybe. Oh I like the taste. But I was like great. David you're you haven't been to the world of Pandora in Disney World. I have not. No. Only in my dreams. One day I'll drag you kicking and screaming on a plane or we'll walk there on foot from New York. But they make that place smell like you're in like a beautiful garden. You know that's like part of the sensory experience of it. I do feel like the wafts of this

cereal. I feel like I'm on Pandora. Okay well I think you're high out of your mind because that does not smell like a beautiful garden to me. I'm getting subtle floral notes. It smells like medicine. I mean not even the blueberry is very artificial blueberry strong scent strong flavor too. And also I got a lot of the blue clusters in here. There's a lot of blueberries. Interesting I'm kind of light on them. Really. I feel like so often with theme cereals like this or

cereals where there's like a special piece in there they're pretty stingy. Yeah. It's like you know one out of every six or seven and I feel like we have a pretty close ratio it's like one to two flakes to moons. Right look I don't know how you guys feel about blueberry as an artificial flavor but it has never been my favorite. I don't know where you guys are. I'm with you. It's it's lower on my artificial flavor rankings near the bottom. I'm pro artificial blueberry but I get it. Like

if that would be my least maybe not least but that would not be the pop tart I would pick if I'm at the grocery store and I'm you know I'm checking them all out. Sure. I'm coming around on these but I gotta say regular frosted flakes is one of my favorite cereals. I just this is the thing. Yeah. Well I ruin them. Why are the flakes not for when I was a boy corn flakes and then just my grandma would put sugar on the corn flakes with milk and it was fantastic at this this there's a

strong. Well you never heard of that. Are these flakes not fraud. They are not. No they are. Look at them. Come up to the light. These flakes be frosted. They are. You gotta try because you were telling us you're a dry guy. I drink I drink I eat dry cereal. I'm a dry guy. Yeah. Are these blue moons blue. Same. Of course they're blue. Just like. Same. Wait what the fuck. What. What. Oh you're a dry. I eat dry so you know your mic was on. Yeah. For a second I felt like

you were responding to something else. You know M and I are dry guys. So I'm getting the full frosting of the flake. I'm definitely tasting. I don't know if it's being dissipated by the milk. You guys are drinking milk lactate. And the lactate. You know. The milk is blue. The milk is blue. Original Star Wars. Not green. The green bullshit. I can tell I'm going to be on an island by myself here. And I love Frosted Flakes. Oh god. I think you're gonna say you like the

green milk more than the blue milk or some bullshit. I like both of them. They're both great. They're not both good. Alex is just a resounding success. Oh my god. I got a blue moon on the mic. Sorry. I love one of my favorite characters. Everything I'm saying is earnest. I always think about what you guys say because I love stupid novelty tie-in limited foods especially if they're tying into a movie. I'm such a fucking slut for that. But I think about what you

guys say where you're like is the special varietal of this better than the standard. It's the golden Oreos test of like this has to at least compete. 100%. And not make you go like I wish I was eating a regular Oreo right now. Right. I feel like I may be enjoying this more than your classic bowl of Frosted Flakes. That's bad opinion. That's the worst thing you've ever done is a horrible opinion. I'm telling you it's not and not by a lot. I think it's a little bump but I'm

enjoying this. I'm not a blueberry guy but I'm liking this this flavor profile. Can I immediately respond both because I have to go and also because I'm in sense. Here's how I feel. Sims I'm with you. This is insane. Blind check is canceled. How I'm feeling right now is I'm eating this bowl of cereal and I'm like man I forgot how much I love Frosted Flakes. Like that really was a favor for me as a kid. I haven't had those in a while and I

am simmering with anger that I have a box of this shit so much that I might go through it and remove the moons but I think the essence of the moons will remain will linger because I it's like I'm eating a nice bowl of Frosted Flakes and then once in a while I hit a moon and I'm like Sims I'm with you and also I'll say this and Griff won't know this but the moons once they sog up a little bit they're like little like Navi boogers they're like yeah they don't

they're like soggy and fucking nasty. Maybe it's just crispy moon. I see I feel like this is like loops all berries like crunch berries. I've come around I like it more but the the blueberry and wise my milk is blue and the moons are blue but it's it's it's an overwhelming taste and I love Frosted Flakes and every time I'm getting a Frosted Flakes taste I like that more than the blueberry. I yeah I took a spoonful of just Frosted Flakes with the blue milk and it

did have a strong blueberry character to it. Yes from from berry runoff. David your calculation is you're looking at the box and going should I D Pandora this and my right to my head was how limited is this cereal do I need to stock up on? Right. You know of course you guys gave me crunch for the first time on the podcast and I now have 20 bottles of crunch in my fridge because I'm always afraid they're going to discontinue it and I might do a similar

thing with Pandora Flakes. Dear god. Wow. The last time I did this the Batman versus Superman cereal was really fucking good and I found a discount store that had it and I truly would buy ten boxes at a time. Movie was good too. Yeah I like the movie. We're here on the same page. We are on the same page. We like and we like the Snyder Cut. We like the Snyder Cut a lot. Love the Snyder Cut. So here's what I'll say. I think I'm more with Griffin here. I won't go all

the way saying these are these are better than regular Frosted Flakes but I think this is a really nice little a bit of I think the blueberry moons are a nice little bit of flair. I think they're a nice little enhancement and I like that this is a limited edition cereal. I like this in terms of thematically as an execution of the Avatar IP in cereal form. I think it's fun. I do wish I do wish Tony was fucking blue. Yeah. That's a huge that's a huge Tony should

be a Navi. I mean that there's bigger issues that the blueberry moons don't taste good but also they taste pretty good. I kind of like this. I'm going to tell you my all time favorite cereal. Number one on the charts. This is my new crunch. Also, I got three spoons and one was small and I thought that thematically I should take the small spoon. Griff took it. He took it. I'm a little guy and I was eating it dry. I appreciate that. Yeah. Um I got a big spoon for

one. So, but I I'm going to say this from a greedy Mitch perspective. I was like, I'm fucking taking home these Pandora Flakes. Yeah. I'm not leaving them at head gum. I'm not letting wags take. I'm not letting Griff take. I'm going to take them home. Now that I've tried them, a head gum, they're all yours. Chomp away. I don't want to. I don't want to take them. This is what happened last time. I take them. They're not good. You can take the lactate too or I'll

leave the, you know what? Head gum, you get the lactate. Griffin, you know what? I'll bring this box to the studio. Yes. Wow. That's that's the compromise. That's another thing. You can fucking have them all you like. I'm going to like fucking Instacart 10 boxes of Pandora Flakes. Which by the way was that was also a whole other thing was finding Pandora Flakes and Amelia and Emma and I were trying to, Sims, get them to you. And then they were sitting. You got

them here. They were sitting outside of your place and I was so nervous. I can't believe at one point I was so nervous someone would try to steal these. They suck. I was like, someone's going to, I was, I said to why, because I said it was like unobtainium sitting outside of your place unattended. No, I should have, I should have told reassured you more. Like my place is a very nice little, uh, into chamber, whatever you want to call it. It's a good place for male to

sit. You know, no one's ever stealing a little table. Yeah. It's got a nice little table. Yeah. But it was, they were hard to find. We had it. We had it. We had Instacart for, for me too. We were trying to find them. It seems like Target is the only place you can find them. You have to search. You had to search on the Instacart app, Pandora Flakes. So, so my best bet is you go to Target and you might be able to get them Griff. Target is the place to go. Yeah. No, there's a Target

near your office. I'm going to, I'm going to stock up all the guys. This was like, you should give yourself some good. This was a little magic Mitch in action. You were the one who found them. You nailed it. Sure. Yeah, Mitch. There was a magic Mitch gone. Yeah. When I searched Pandora Flakes, nothing showed up. So, that's Mitch magic. Look, um, Mitch magic found a box full of shit. It sucks. Right. I'm so excited. I love, but you know what? I love Avatar. This is not good.

Yeah. I love Avatar too, but Mitch, you also did to get to the $10 minimum. Send me a bunch of baby food, which I actually, that is true. Very nice. And also I, I also in my order also ordered myself a bunch of baby food. You were like, oh, these pouches sound good. Honestly, the pouches, what were they called? Tots? What are they? Happy Tot. Happy Tot. They looked good. I don't know if you saw them wise. They look good. All right. Snack, future Snacker Wax. Yeah, we'll do the

baby episode. Yeah. You have the boss baby on. The other thing that annoys me is I'm so hungry. I'm gonna maybe pour my I'm gonna finish this. I think I like them. It seems like me and Griffin like them. Griffin likes them both. I think I think they're pretty, I think they're pretty good, honestly. Yeah. And the two of you both load these. I mean, I love Frostaflux and Sims. It seems like you're the same way. I think they're the Avatar of cereal. The best that's ever

been done. David's gotta go. We're talking Avatar. We're talking Avatar. I'm gonna go. David's gotta go see a half of that Tar. That's right. Which your favorite movie of the year. I may be mine too. Fucking love Tar. Hell yeah. It's creeping up to my number one. It's been sitting well with me the more I think about it. Yeah, I gotta see it again. Are there nobby's in there or no? That's why I want to see it again. I want to confirm my opinion of it and yeah, I'm

taking my wife to see to meet Lydia Tar who is real. Guys, I love being on this show so much. It's a lifelong dream that keeps getting fulfilled. So thank you for having me. We love having you. Everyone check out Blank Check with you and Griffin. Fantastic podcast and we were able to do a Blank Check length episode today with the two of you. And we gotta have you guys on the podcast again soon. It's been too long since you guys have been on Blank Check. But keep

chatting. Don't let me. We're gonna keep chatting. We're gonna do another hour. I got a lot of opinions. Great. I figured. All right. Bye guys. Bye David. David. All right. Hey, that was cereal. Just like a restaurant. That sims left like that. It's unbelievable. See a movie. I'm gonna have a podcast. Just like a restaurant by your feedback. Let's open the feedback. Today we have an email from Greg. Greg writes how do you host Spoonman Burger Boy Emma and Ghost of

You song. Hey, Greg. Have you ever liked a restaurant but then they start bucking up and every time you go something seems different. I could put so many places on blast that started out good as hell and then just like a partner who has gotten too comfortable in a relationship starts cutting corners and barely puts in any effort. The hell? Jaded. Greg, I thought you maybe had to cool it my man. Are you? Hopefully you're not in a relationship right now or uh

this isn't passive aggressive. Uh how many times will you keep going and giving them another chance before you cut them out of your life? For me, it is about two times. So, you've had a bad experience at a restaurant that was good before and how many chances do you give it? Why don't you talk about this? Yeah. A place where I order lunch from regularly. A salad place and I had them fuck up big time. We'll we'll bleep it this time. I mean, everyone everyone knows who it is. It's

We left it unbleeped last time so. Yeah, it's but I I still order for lunch all the time and I've given them a million chances. I still just go back. I think for me there's maybe like some line like I've I told you at one of my other favorite restaurants there was a hair in my and and and like you and I give passes for hair all the time but there was like a huge hair and I remember oh god. You bum them up a fork sometimes if it's a good hair. I don't like hairs in my food. I was at a

restaurant that you visited while you were here. Oh, okay. So, you know what it is? Uh-huh. Yeah. We talked about it. A place you like a lot. A place I love. Yeah. And I got mashed potatoes and there was hair in it and I remember pulling the hair and it was coming out of my throat. Uh a reverse lady in the tramp. It was it was like it was like a reverse lady in the trip. It was like a ringoo or like a grudge moment or I was just like pulling hair out of my throat. Why is you know

of this? Nasty. Yeah. Um and I love that place and I'll always give it a second chance. I think for me a big thing would be like if I got an actual roach in my meal that might be an ender and there is a restaurant where I there was a roach in my platter and I still gave it another chance after that. So, I I think that like for my answer for me is like as many chances as it needs but if I bit into a bug it maybe would end a restaurant for me. Is that fair? I like biting into a

bug? If you bite if you if I bit a cockroach. So, basically you're saying is that if a place fucks up you'll keep going until it's like it's not like a like a set number of fuck ups. It's more like how severe is the fuck up? Yes, I think that I I I'll definitely give it a break. You know what I mean? Like I won't go back for a while but I'll go back eventually. Where you said you got a screw in your meal once. Am I misremembering this? That that happened to Maddie. Maddie

Smith got a screw but I got I got a rock in a in a sandwich from we can maybe we can and and there was like an actual stone. So, that's you're saying you'll tolerate a drop in quality. It's if they start including items that are not food. That's your break. I think that is a big breaking point. Yeah, I think that's fair. There was a diner where someone got an omelet and there was a full roach in the omelet and I'm like that's pretty nasty. I don't know if I

could ever I don't know if I could ever do it ever again. I don't know if I would ever trust the place ever again. The place where I the place where I got the bug it was like a live small roach on the side of the container in the bag which was bad but it's also like one of my favorite. I'm going to say it to you here. We're going to bleep a lot of things. Okay and I'll never give up. I'll never go. I love that. Yeah. I love when you just tell Emma we're going to

create more work for you because I want to say this thing. It's just a few bleeps. Emma was the was the roach on the inside of the container on the outside of the container. Like it crawled into the to-go bag or it was in with your food. I like I took it. My guess is that it was probably because there was a salad was in the veggies. Um yeah. I know. Tough. I'll say that no place makes more mistakes for me than my beloved Del Taco. My Del Taco order

is wrong so frequently. I kind of just anticipate and this is especially bad. They are like really they're bad. They're notorious about it and look I god bless the workers there. They're overwhelmed. The menu is always changing. It's it's a it's a little too large and you know it's if if I if I order the the the the chicken quesadilla and I get a a a a meat protein free quesadilla that's fine. If I get the wrong type of taco that's fine but it just it happens regularly and

anticipated. I like the food enough where I'm willing to go there and also it's kind of a treat when my order is perfect. It's like oh I have it. I fucking everything. Wow they fucking nailed it. So, I I kind of view it from that perspective. As far as what will cause me to stop going to a place? Uh honestly like it it has to be something I think either union wise. Yeah, I mean that's that's a big thing. Like if I if I find out that like like hey the this place

steals tips from the workers. They're pulling a batali or like you know the owners fucking racist or uh you know or or honestly sometimes like if a place just kind of feels a little bit like elitist and rude and I'm just like they kind of are treating it didn't end up happening last night but yeah yeah they're they're kind of treating me like I don't belong here. I don't love that. It's it's more stuff on the customer service side than the the quality of food side but yeah I

don't know if I have I don't have like a set number of chances. It's not two you get two three strikes you're out which sounds like Greg's system. It's just like you know if it if it crosses like like Mitch if it if it crosses a a bridge too far. I don't know Griffin you have an experience. No my answer is very similar. I mean I think the through line here is perhaps all three of us are very low on self-respect and are ones for punishment because we're all describing bad

experiences that happen to us. It's like but I'm not going to give up on it. I don't deserve any better than this. I'm dirt. I do feel like yeah there are places I go to that will fuck my order up a lot or the thing won't be quite I can sense the drop off in quality either in preparation or like maybe they're switching to cheaper ingredients or whatever it is but I think the worst I'll do by enlarge is go like let me take a break from this place right come back and give

him another chance and I don't know if I ever run out of giving them another chance like I will want to come back after two months or three months and hope that it was an off day whatever it is but I feel like yeah with you it's more it's easier to lose me on a vibe level or if I'm just like this business feels like it feels kind of evil in a way yeah bitch have you been to the apple pan post pandemic no but we were griff and I drove by it last night on after the

restaurant that's one of my favorite restaurants in the world apple pan is is fucking great it's it's burgers burgers fries dairy to me I don't know what you're about to sodas and pies basically they're all very very simple frozen in time perfect place yeah this fries burgers and pies rhyme it sounds fucking great so this was basically like like what you just mentioned frozen in time was a big part of its appeal yes like you go in and it's just a big u-shaped

counter and you'd sit down there and let a chef who's been working there uh since the 70s it will like draw a little smiley face with ketchup on your dish and you know make your burger for you it's really quiet it's great it's a place that you feel like this doesn't tolerate anyone coming in with a big ego yes yes if you soda in like a little paper cone like everything about it's beautiful do you request the do you request a smiley face ketchup thing or is it a thing that he

still does for you uh yeah I mean I I don't I kind of get it by default you don't get the smiley face ketchup I don't think I've seen that I don't do it on my chest so so the food is really good and and if you bend back since like the food is still it's still good it's still the apple pan but the thing is one of your cranch girls they don't have the they don't have the little triangular the conical paper cups anymore those are gone uh they don't have they they take credit cards

now which is nice usually cash only but you know that's easy but you're losing a little bit of culture maybe exactly let's not forget the night that I spent uh $200 there on dinner for the Simpsons writers and then Fox wouldn't reimburse me if you want to talk about Mr. Stairman wait really a hundred percent you ate the you ate the cost I ate the cost as a PA who made $500 because it was cash because because it was cash and then I turned in my receipt like a month like a month later but

still come on it's like that's kind on you that's insane that's insane for you for all the other shit you have to do yeah no that's insane PA stuff and then it was like a month like she just didn't want to pay me yeah that's insane she didn't want to go like my boss didn't want to go through Fox and like have to pay me your boss shouldn't give any like they're all fucking rich over there your boss should have had you $200 but like look we'll get you reimbursed but for now yeah this is this will tide you over no that's absurd I I I try to go to

Apple Pan every time I'm in LA yeah and I think I've only been once post pandemic and it was uh or post lockdown let's say pandemic will go on for years and years in different forms but uh the one time I've been post 2020 was when they still weren't reopened for dining yeah that's the other thing so they they're not so they they're their indoor dining area is all just prep now right and they have patio tables outside I wasn't sure if that had changed this at this point there wasn't even patio tables like I had to take it to go and find a bench yeah I I waited at like a bus stop

yeah they have outdoor seating now and you know it's nice but it but it's like a window and it's like the the charm as you sit at the counter and you talk to the guy cooking your burger it does feel like a time machine when you cross that door yeah that's a bit of a bummer to here but food quality has not gone down no but I mean but I'll just say like the change in vibes is enough where I'm like I'm just less excited to go to the apple town no I agree I think the vibe change will scare me off of a place more than a dip in quality I think I will tolerate and keep rooting for a

place if they disappoint me on a meal or two but if the activity of being there is more unpleasant what a mistake this bund me out too why why you don't change a classic you don't change a classic it's kind of a bummer also if we have to go by his relationship rules like I'm someone who would need to be given a billion chances so like I mean like restaurants make mistakes that happen right I'm like I identify as the restaurant that keeps fucking up

I agree yeah yeah the number of times I'm on a podcast a man who talks for a living that I am able to unable to form a sentence like it's just like I fuck up constantly right we don't know how to serve the number one thing on the menu I I didn't like pandora flakes and I went for a second bowl I mean that's just I mean I was just hungry I guess you were you were eating more of it while complaining about how much it sucked I was I got a I got a this second time I got too many blue moons the first time second time more flakes I still think that the blue moons are a little

they're not I'll say it I'm ready to go back to pandora flakes oh my god Tony should be blue I'm ready to go back if you have a question or comment over the world of chain restaurants you need emails to do this podcast at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail 830 go to that's 830 4636844 and to get the doughboys double a weekly bonus episode you can join the golden or platinum play club at patreon.com slash doughboys also check out doughboy snack pack on Spotify live hang out and chat with us every Thursday 8 30 p.m. Eastern listen live on Spotify we've almost eaten up we've eaten half a family sized box

and also I was just gonna say that the bottom half of Tony you can't see so who knows if maybe there is some blue down there is what I was gonna say that's another missed opportunity it should be this family is a fortress size box that's Tony should be blue family is a fortress yeah yeah uh check out blank check so look at the background there's some cool back there's some pair of pandora back the packaging is good and the packaging is good except for Tony not being blue and there's also like the tenant that that oh man Tony could have the little tentacles on his tail yes

yeah they should be talking someone on the box with his tail he should be plugging into a mighty crown uh everyone listen to like Sam the what is the two kids that you can't say I'm he's plugging in I listen to blank check every week I hope you do too uh great podcast fantastic podcast and I mean you guys are truly you're out I'll speak for David I know he said the similar thing but you're our favorite podcast God bless you it remains surreal to be able to do the show with you guys and be friends with you guys always a delight love love our podcast lover text they got bad

check out blank check with uh with you and David Sims and also disenchanted yes on disney plus tomorrow November 18 for the whole family I think it's really good I really really like the movie a lot and when you say that it's like a Hidoth protest too much thing but I'm also like people go out and they promote something that they know sucks yeah right and I think this movie is a real delight I think if if people like the first enchanted it took a while for there to be a sequel but I think they sort of recapture the magic and it's really fun and I uh I squeak throughout the entire movie I make a lot of a

little quippy one-liners and hopefully will not irritate parents who have to watch this on a constant loop it's truly it is the number one thing I was thinking to myself every time I was in a recording studio where it's like I gotta be funny but I got to avoid being the thing I hear my friends complain about yes I've watched this 87 times this one fucking character is driving me crazy that's a great thing to have in your head that's hilarious yeah well congrats on the movie and thank you so much for making time for us and hey that'll do it for this episode of Doughboys this in-person episode of

Doughboys wow we'll do it again Mitch I'm hey this is right down the street from my play oh shit I shouldn't dox this is near my place we could make this happen wise come over you're gonna drive this way that's the issue I took the train oh you like that I hopped on the top of the expo line and then I transferred to the red line and then I got the number four bus anyone trying to see anyone trying to see a dick on that bad boy today or no they will whether they want to or not it's not about who's trying to see it's about who's trying to show all right see ya if it's exciting for this movie I might be told you're having eaten see ya

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