Doughboys - El Pollo Loco with Lamar Woods

Episode Date: September 21, 2017

Writer and comedian Lamar Woods (New Girl, Comedy Bang! Bang!) joins the ‘boys for a trip to LA native chain and renowned chicken eatery, El Pollo Loco. Plus, a discussion of Atlanta eats, spicy wings, and 90’s movies before closing out with another segment of Snack or Wack.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Season 2, Episode 11 of Breaking Bad, titled Mandela, introduced viewers to a character who would become the series' most memorable antagonist. Gus Fring, portrayed with Deadpan Menace by veteran character actor Giancarlo Esposito. Fring, who over the course of multiple seasons would alternately employ and threaten series leads Walton Jesse, oversaw a crystal meth empire that stretched from New Mexico to old, all while outwardly appearing to be an upstanding member of the community because of his front, a chain of quick-service restaurants called Los Poyos Hermanos, the Chicken Brothers. The south-of-the-border style chicken joint that served as the covert distributor of Walter

White's blue meth across the land of enchantment was reportedly inspired by an actual chicken joint that first opened in Guisave, Sinaloa, Mexico in 1975, though founder Juan Francisco Ochoa was never suspected of using it to cover up an international criminal conspiracy. The quick-service restaurant's original menu, just citrus-marinated, flame-grilled chicken, tortillas and salsa, was a hit with locals, and by 1980 there were 85 locations throughout Mexico, so Ochoa grew his franchise across the border with its first American location on Los Angeles' historic Alvarado Street. The unique chain found a fan base in SoCal and later across the American Southwest as

it expanded to 200 outlets by 1990 and expanded its U.S. menu to include an array of sides and more accessible handheld options like burritos in case it is. The Mexican export became enough of a staple in the states that it was even featured on an episode of NBC's The Apprentice, starring of course, famously hostile to Hispanics host Donald Trump. Now with over 400 locations and 42 years of history, this chicken shack has made its grill mark on the fast food world as well as indirectly on prestige TV. The name of Los Poyos Armanos' real-life counterpart, in English, the Crazy Chicken.

This week on Doughboys, El Pollo Loco. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurant store production of Feral Audio dot com. I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host, Wario's Wario, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Wario's Wario? That insult was courtesy of Pete Cartwright. If you have a roast you'd like me to use on Mitch at the top of the show, roastspoonmanatgmail.com. You know Wario's Wario could just be Mario.

That's his antagonist. Well, yeah, Wario's Wario is Mario. Yeah, huh? I mean, it's not. That's not what he meant. Yeah, you're picturing like some sort of grotesque monster. Yes. So, Doughboys, to Spoon Nation, and also, I'm the Spoon Man, God, I love me, if you're

adding a new catchphrase to your arsenal. That's right. And here is a little drop. Here we go, ready? Yeah. One, two, three, four, five, nine, eight, nine, eight, nine, eight, nine, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, twelve, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, twenty-five, twenty-six, fourteen, twenty-seven, twenty-twenty-nine, thirty-one.

This is driving me crazy. This is the only way we win. That's the only way we all get laid. That's the drop. That was from our fry-counting instance, which we did on the Doughlympics episode. The Doughlympics. Yikes. What a disaster it was.

That was maybe the high point, though. That was maybe the only decent take away. Titled A Beautiful Dough, I think, making fun of how slow I was counting. Andy DeVry. Oh, that's fun. Thanks, bud. Enjoy. Thanks, Andy.

At AndyDV. Hey, you know what, Mitch, sorry for cutting that plug off, I believe what is going to be a new part of your catchphrase, I'm the Spoon Man, God, I love me, inspired by ABC's dinosaurs. Uh-huh. Yeah. Colin Trevorrow, the director of Jurassic World, as of this recording, has been taken off of Star Wars Episode 9, some sort of mutual agreement.

He's gotten the, you know what's funny is like, you know, everyone has kind of been like with you and I have been like, well, you like it. But with me, they've been like, you're cynical about, and then it's just funny to see stuff come around, because I have a feeling that just a lot more will come around. I think people won't like those movies as much. Do you think that over time, like the enthusiasm people add for it is going to atrophy? Mm-hmm. Because kind of the same thing, we've kind of seen it happen with Jurassic World to

some degree. I like Jurassic World, but I think people have, I think there has been a little bit of a mini backlash where people have been saying like, you know, especially with this news that people have been talking about how they were afraid that Colin Trevorrow was going to do to Jurassic, to the Jurassic Park franchise, what he did, or would do to the Star Wars franchise, what he did to the Jurassic Park franchise. Yeah. I think my thing is just kind of like, when we were getting new directors for these movies,

it was kind of like, man, I just wanted people who I thought were good. You know what I mean? Sure. I want to like, I guess someone who is more of an auteur, and I think they don't want to hire people like that. I feel like Ryan Johnson qualifies to some degree. Yeah, I wonder. He's maybe sort of already sci-fi movies.

I mean, that's the thing. I didn't love Looper, but maybe it's good. I hope it's good. I like Looper. I thought Looper was just outright. I don't know. It was okay. Okay.

I kind of want to get our guest involved in this combo, because I feel like he has some thoughts on Looper. Well, let's do that real quick. We're doing live shows in Portland, October 12th, Seattle, October 13th, and Vancouver, October 14th, for info and tickets, go to feralaudio.com slash Doughboys. But right now, let me introduce our guest, a writer for New Girl, a member of the great sketch group, White Women. Lamar Woods is here.

Hi, Lamar. Hey, what's going on? How y'all doing? How you doing, man? Good to have you here. We're excited to have you here. I'm happy to be here. Was that a so-so sign for Looper?

Yeah, you were emoting physically. Yeah, you heard Looper's eye. But when you were talking, I wanted to make sure I was singing the right film. I'm thinking of a film where the main character is looping through portals of different dimensions. Is that that movie? Oh, no. I think this might, it might be a movie that stars a Star Wars, an actor in the Star Wars series.

Are you thinking of Jumper? I think it's Jumper with Hayden Christensen. Not Looper. Jumper. Looper is with, is Bruce Willis, right? Bruce Willis and Jordan, Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Right.

That sounds familiar, too. I have seen that. Yeah. What's the plot of that? It's like, it's kind of like, basically, it is, is Bruce Willis- Bruce Willis is Future Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Yes. And there is a, there is a weird, yeah, there's a weird thing where you are sent back in time

to, like, you reach a certain point and you're sent back in time to be killed by someone in the past. Right. Because then they can dispose of the evidence. Maurice, I think that's what it is. Yeah. It's easier to dispose of the evidence because it's backwards in time. I'm not sure.

I wasn't actually clear on what that was exactly. But I got to say this, just right off the bat. Lamar and I both have seen this movie. Yeah. Neither of us really remember it that way. It's like- It's a little confusing. But also, like, it must not be that, that great of a movie.

Like, I remember it being okay. It's got some strong stylistic choices. Like, I like how they pop back in time. Like, that's a cool way to do time travel, like, just visually. But- Hey, he could be great. I hope- Yeah.

I want the movie to be great. I want the new Star Wars to be great. It would be great. Do I think it's gonna be? I don't know. The porgs look pretty dumb. Yeah. The porgs don't look good, Nick.

You agree with this. We're skeptical. We're mutually skeptical on the porgs. Lamar, have you seen the porgs at all? No, I haven't seen that yet. Is there a place I can see those guys? Let me bring up the porgs for you. Nick is gonna pull up a porg for me.

Nick is gonna pull up a porg for you. Okay, yeah. But just to go back, I did like that movie, The Jumper, More Than Looper. Wow. Just to be clear on that. Wow, I like that. That's Hayden Christensen who played Darth Vader,

who played Anakin Skywalker in the prequel movies. All right, Lamar, I'm gonna turn my laptop screen around. You can get a shot of Chewie next to a porg. Yeah, I don't know about all that. I don't know, man. We got wearing us for some trouble. We're in big trouble with that. What the heck going on?

Yeah, I think that's a fair reaction. Look, I don't know about the porgs. I don't know about the evil BB-8 they've got. What's it? BB-9E. BB-9E. And the E stands for evil, obviously. I don't know about Snoke just being a normal-sized man.

There's some choices that maybe make me a little bit wary. But I do like Ryan Johnson. I think he's a good director. I think he could be all right. A lot of people like Brick. I watched the first 15 minutes of Brick and I didn't love it. So I got to watch the whole thing. Right.

So I can't judge. I can't really judge Ryan Johnson. I don't know enough. I got to revisit Looper, too. You were disappointed it wasn't about an actual Brick? That it's something you could relate to? I'll break that to get thrown through. Yeah, yeah.

Throw it to the side. I thought it was about a time-traveling Brick. That would be pretty good. Are you sure about that, Wager? Yeah, I think so. You know what? I'm going to green light it. Yeah, you know what?

It seems like something that you would pitch. You famously pitched someone goes to a zoo. It's a haunted zoo, basically. It's a movie for kids. This also, by the way, it just seems like something a kid would come up with. Right, but I think kids would like it. Yeah, it's like, you know, because ghosts are scary.

So it's kind of like a night at the museum where kids are like shut into an abandoned zoo after hours. And after hours in this abandoned zoo, the dead animals come back in ghost form. Okay, so the animals are already dead? Yeah, I think they died years ago. This zoo closed down in the 40s or something like that. So you've got an old ghost elephant.

You've got ghost gorillas, ghost zebras, the whole gamut. So in the opening of the movie, would you show all these animals dropping dead in the beginning of this kids movie? That's a good question. I think cold open. Yeah, I think we've just got a long line of animals being euthanized by veterinarians.

And then their corpses are being burned or turned into animal feed. That is awful. But it's delightful. They'll like it. Yeah. Once you get past that point. Got to set the table.

I think that if you brought that pitch into a room, you'd be chased out of Hollywood. It would be a good thing. I think you'd have a big smile on your face as you ran away from Hollywood. Yeah, I'd be into that. Lamar, when did you move here? You're from Atlanta originally.

Yeah. When did you move out to the West Coast? I moved out here in 2008. 2008, all right. Now, I feel like with Atlanta, it's like one of the funny places where you are in like, that's like Showbiz Junior, basically. It is now, yeah.

Yeah. It's definitely a place where there's like a lot of TV and film is shot over there. Did you miss Atlanta? Did you want to move out of there? How did you feel about coming over here? No, I think I was like, when I was there, the TV and film hadn't gotten there yet.

It was mostly like still rappers. There's a lot of rappers there. And then I was a rapper at the time. Were you really? Yeah, I used to be a rapper when I was younger, like in high school and through college or whatever. Oh, shit. I know this.

Oh, you didn't know that? I did not know this. Oh, man. I used to kill it back in the day. It was crazy in Atlanta. The streets was hot. I don't know. But when I left, I had sort of like stopped doing music

for a little bit and then moved out here with one of my friends who wanted to be a filmmaker. Right. And yeah. And then I've been here ever since. But now that I hear that there's film and stuff there, I was like, oh yeah, we could go back there. Yeah.

My friend, the director moved back there when he found out about that because he always wanted to make movies in Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. And then he said he quickly realized it wasn't there yet. Like he had to come back. It's all right. It's still on its way, basically. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, there's been a lot of shows of late, too, that are just based in Atlanta. Right. Partially because there are just things being shot down there. And there are tax incentives. Or there were for a time. The Walking Dead, I think, most famously.

The Walking Dead is down there. That's a big one. The Hikari shows. Atlanta is down there. Oh yeah. I haven't watched enough Atlanta. Did you watch one? Yeah, Atlanta was cool.

I liked that show. Yeah, I got to watch more of it. And that was like a different side of Atlanta, too, that you don't usually see. Right. I feel like everything I see of Atlanta is usually like very nice black people. Like they have no flaws, kind of thing.

And everything is going well and really dramatic. But this was a cool showing of Atlanta that I was like on the outskirts. And how weird people in Atlanta are. Right. I think people are pretty weird down there. I spent time in Athens, Georgia, outside of Atlanta, rowing crew.

I did the dorkiest thing possible in Atlanta. During spring break, I was there rowing crew. Wait, was it this was like spring training? What was it exactly? It was spring training. Okay. Basically for two springs, I was down there by freshman and sophomore year.

And we rode right by Ludacris's house. Wow. That was kind of cool. Like in the boat, we rode by Ludacris's house. Did you wave at him? Yeah, we waved at him. Wow, cool. We waved at him.

There was smoke coming out of his chimney, but it was the middle of spring. I was trying to say he was smoking weed. Using his chimney. I thought you were saying that he's burning body. I was like, hey, Ludacris is getting rid of some bodies there in the house. Ludacris was not kidding.

I was like, he was smoking so much weed, it was coming out of his chimney. Does Ludacris love weed? Doesn't he love weed? I'm not sure. No? Is that not a Ludacris thing? Oh well.

I mean, I don't know. I guess he does in a general average rapper sense. Sure. I don't think. Not like Snoop Dogger. I guess he likes people to get out of the way. Yeah. I know that.

Yeah. There's like all that crowding. It gets pretty crowded down there. I think that's he was yelling that at us as we rode by. He said, get out the way. Yeah. And it was, it was, it was very, it was very nice,

but like Atlanta is like very, it was, it's so different from so many, like, just like the, like the brown, like mud basically. Yeah. And it's, it's a muddy city. When we were there, it is basically, there is like a lot of like, kind of like brown mud. Yeah.

Yeah. They call it red, red clay. Red, red clay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a rapper from Tennessee and he would be like, Kentucky bluegrass and that Georgia red clay.

It makes it together. And then he would start rapping. It was a good rapper. It's good gimmick. Yeah. It sounds like such a, like, oh, it sounds like a very, like, like a, like a very wise saying. And then he sucks at rapping.

Yeah. Yeah. He's like, what's he going to tell us this time? But it never works out. So Georgia, big peach. We know that we've talked to Joe Saunders about peaches in Georgia. A peach freak.

Joe is a peach freak. Joe is a peach freak. What are, what are some like, like Atlanta dishes that you have there that you completely miss being out here on the West coast? Oh, good. That's a good question. I miss, um, I miss the wings.

I miss Chick, well, Chick-fil-A they do have out here, but I always associate Chick-fil-A with Georgia cause. It wasn't always out here. Yeah. In Georgia. Right. Can I just say the Chick-fil-A on Sunset Island, it's just a paint.

I don't want to be in that part of town. It just sucks to be there, right? Well, it's also like, that's a, that's a, one of the most impacted, I feel like drive-throughs in the city. It's just madness there. And I feel like there are less high volume Chick-fil-A's in LA, but they're, they're kind of, you know, I think there might be maybe some consistency issues with the West coast Chick-fil-A's

cause I've noticed some of them are kind of variant in terms of, of the quality of bird you'll get there. Oh yeah. People get very mad at us. We did, we did this, we did like a chicken ranking thing. And we, we went with Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich. Oh yeah. Which people think I had it over the Chick-fil-A, which people

say that I basically rigged, which in reality, I didn't really care what happened in the tournament. Come on. I mean, I wanted Wendy's to win. I do, I do, I do generally think the spicy chicken sandwich is better than what I had at Chick-fil-A the times I went there. Yeah. I agree with that.

But, but, but I like the, the, the, the Chick-fil-A out here, maybe, maybe it is the thing of quality out here. Cause it was just, it's just been all right. And that's all, that's all kind of the, I've had Chick-fil-A like a few times in my life and most of it has been out here. So. Yeah. I do think every, there's something inside me every time I

go back home, I want Chick-fil-A, which would not happen. I feel like if the Chick-fil-A out here was good, you know what I mean? Like I'm always like, I got to try Chick-fil-A again. Like I haven't had it this whole time. I get that. There's, there's stuff with like East Coast stuff like that, where I'm like with Dunkin Donuts or something. I'm like, I'm going to Dunkin Donuts and it's like, oh, I have it here now

if I, if I want it and it's good quality too. Yeah. I don't feel like the, I feel like the Dunkin Donuts out here is representative, at least of what I've only had it in New York, but it feels representative of what it had in New York. Hmm. Hmm. You do agree, Mitch?

Yeah. We've mentioned this before, but I think that they're even better because they're trying to get like the chain going. Oh, okay. Interesting. Wow. So, so you're a bit, you're a big, you love wings? Oh yeah.

Wings, wings, there's like a spot called the Derby in Atlanta. Okay. That has, to me, had the best wings I've ever had. Yeah. And I still haven't really found a match for that in LA. What makes these wings special? I think it's just like the chicken, like the crispiness. Okay.

And then the salt, the way they put the sauce on it. And what kind of sauce are we talking about? Just buffalo sauce. Got it. They take regular chicken wing sauce, but it seems to be on it correctly. Like the right amount. Yeah. It's dipped in it.

It's evenly distributed. Yeah. So DeWay, do you like your buffalo wings? Do you like hot or where do you like them on that scale? Yeah. I like them real hot. Okay. If they have a hot, if they have like a, it's like hot.

What is it? Mild, medium, hot. Hmm. And then there's usually like a something crazy. Right. Like throw you away or whatever. Right. But sometimes I don't like that stuff, but there's something as there's a middle

one, like very hot. Yeah. If there's there, I'll get it. There's always the dare level, like the, just though, the one that you'll get to like impress somebody or the, just to prove that you're a heat freak. Right. And I feel like that, that's always to me is just like a little too intense. I like spicy foods.

I'm a little bit of a heat seeker, but that's always just a little too much. I was a heat seeker. I used to just eat hot sauce for crying out loud in high school. People would like, be like, try this hot sauce or eat this pepper. I would do stuff like that. And I've just fucked up my stomach over the years. I can't do it at all anymore. Right.

And so I just feel like I ate too much of it. And then so I went to howling rays and howling rays is great. Have you had howling rays? No, I need to go check it out. Man, it's great. It's great. I got, I went with Jack. I was with Maddie, I believe.

And for no, anyone on LA, this is just like a local chicken shack. That's a, that's a current sensation. And, and I got the howling level and I was like sick for two days. Like I, and it tastes good, but I was sick. It tasted good, but I like was in kept. I couldn't do anything for two days. We had some residual rumblies. Oh yeah.

Residual rumblies. Nick is how you can put it. It was lingering. I was, I was like sweat, like sweating. It was, it was, it was, it was rough. It was, it was super hot. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a dare level guy. Right.

Are you saying that it happened? Is that something that can happen to all of us if we're eating too much spices? Like we're not going to be able to do it no more. I think it can. I love that you're taking this as like a warning. You're like, oh no. Yeah.

I'm a little worried. I've eaten so much. I'm just, I'm just like you guys, I love spicy food, but I feel like I'm getting to a point where it's like, it's starting to hurt. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm getting pain a lot. I don't know.

In a sense, this entire podcast is kind of a cautionary tale. Like just like, don't do what we do. Don't, don't eat this bad food. Certainly don't record yourselves talking about it. That's not going to work out. But I do, I do think that your stomach can, I feel like right. Is that the, I feel like my, I feel like I now I'll do it, but I don't usually go like super hot.

I'll usually even like, God, this is pathetic to admit, but I'm kind of a mild. I'm kind of a mild man. Oh boy. I'm like mild man now. You went, you went mild on us. Come on man. It's like no sauce. It's just like, it's just regular wing.

It's just a wing. This piece of shit went fucking mild. Can you believe it? Why are you cocked your head sideways trying to do a tough guy thing? It did not work at all. I was like, what? I was looking, I turned my head. I didn't know why you were doing it.

Um, yeah, I, I, I, I, I, it's sad to admit, maybe, maybe I'll go one step above them, but I medium, you know, I'm more, I'm more of like a medium guy. If I'm over at rustic or something, medium, medium level wings. Right. Yeah. They also have in it, at this place, the Derby flavor that they don't do out here, but it's basically lemon pepper. Oh hell yeah.

With hot. It's like, whoa, wait, what? It's called lemon pepper hot. Whoa. You do like, that's a revelation. Yeah. This is, this is some breaking chews right here now. This is big time breaking chews.

Oh man, you heard it here first. I'm double his podcast. It's time. I'm dropping it. Boy, you're boiling more. Lemon pepper hot. No, it's like, but basically it's like, um, uh, lemon pepper, right? Right.

As if you're making it, but then they take it over to the hot sauce and then, and then mix it in with the hot sauce. Yeah. And it looks like regular hot wings. And then we bite into it. Oh my God. It's lemon pepper. That's amazing.

But they won't do it here. This breaking news that most people in Atlanta already know. Nick and I are very excited about. I'm amazed. Cause you started talking, you said they have a flavor that they don't have over here. A lemon pepper almost cut you off. I was like, I'm gonna be like Lamar.

We got a lemon pepper. They got a lemon pepper at Wingstop. But you kept going and you added the lemon pepper hot. It's like, I don't know why I've never even thought those two could go together. Oh man. That's amazing. Well, you're also the guy who comes up with haunted zoo. Did I pitch my other, my other big idea here?

I legit think this could be a billion dollar kids movie franchise, but the thing is in the rights issue. Can I guess? Yeah. Guess what it is. Non-haunted zoo. Kids go to a regular zoo and they have a nice time. There's no dramatic tension.

None of that. They're just having fun. No, this is, this is my big idea. Dog Avengers. Yes. You've said this before. I pitched dog Avengers on the podcast. Yeah.

You get all the, all the famous movie dogs. You get your Benji. You're Lassie. You're Rin Tin Tin. Your air pod. L3 dead. All four dead. You reboot them.

You reboot these dogs. You don't even get the original dogs. Rin Tin Tin's dead. Sorry, Lamar. Man, this is a tough day for me. You get Beethoven. You get all these dogs. You get them together.

You team them up on an adventure versus a villainous cat. I mean, that's dynamite. Do they all talk? Cause some of these dogs don't talk. Who's not playing the cat? Is it a famous cat? That's a good question. It's going to be a famous cat for God's sake.

You have all these famous dogs. It's just going to be a regular cat. Yeah. I think it should be like Heathcliff. We'll say it's Heathcliff. Heathcliff, you hate Heathcliff. I do hate Heathcliff. Yeah.

That's why he should be the bad guy. You sucks. But you want a shitty, you think he's a shitty character? Yeah. Should the garbage ape and him, if they've teamed up? Yeah. The garbage ape, the spin-off character, not a spin-off character. He's just a side character in the Heathcliff franchise.

Yeah. Maybe he could be a part of it. Garbage ape, are you familiar with Heathcliff, the comic strip at all? There's this character, this deep part of their lore. They have this character called the garbage ape, who is a literal gorilla who shows up in the middle of the night to raid garbage cans. And I think he's worshiped as something of a deity. It's very confusing.

It's pretty funny, though. It's Mitch. Come on. What are you doing? What are you doing? But Heathcliff is a cat and is a cat. Yeah. Heathcliff is a cat.

Wait, you're not familiar with Heathcliff? Heathcliff the cat? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. Is that a comic strip? He's like, is the Pepsi to Garfield's Coke? He's like a shittier, shittier ripoff of Garfield.

It was like, there was a cartoon of a two back in the eighties. And it was, it was, it was fine. Heathcliff is fine. Well, I'm surprised. That's why I got confused because he's animated. Right. But he's going to be in an Avengers movie. He could be an actual cat.

And then we could just, we just get a real cat. Wait, well, wait, did you know, wait, did you know who Heathcliff was? No, no. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, I think besides the animated non animated thing, but they did it with Garfield.

They made a Garfield live action movie and they made a live action car, like a CG live action Garfield. You did the same with Heathcliff. I got a line for you. Yeah. You got a garbage ape. Well, we got a Kujo. That's good.

It's good reference the Avengers directly. And then you, yeah, we introduced Kujo comes out from Stephen King's Kujo. Yeah. And just in kind of like the mess is a bunch of the villains up. But hold on a second. First of all, you're very hard on my line, which would work great in this movie. It would work great. Describe what the fuck is this movie about?

They team up for a fucking event. Look, you sell the pitch, then you figure it out. Jesus. All right. I miss Beethoven so much. I had a, in my high school Spanish class, we had one of those days where like the teacher just didn't feel like teaching. I don't know if I ever have a sub, but my teacher senior oblides just put on Beethoven and we

were like, oh, well, we'll watch Beethoven in Spanish. It was the English Beethoven. We spent like two classes watching the English Beethoven for no real reason. Yeah. And the teacher never changed it over. No, we just watched all of it. Jesus. Yeah.

What do you learn from it? Is it just, we're just teaching it at a dog as a part of the family? Is that the lesson for Beethoven? I think so. Yeah. Like kind of, he, he's, what's the word? Impestuous? That's not, that's not quite the right word.

Who's the dad in Beethoven? Charles Groton, right? Oh, it's Groton. Yeah. But Beethoven's like, he's like the very slobbery, messy dog and they're just sort of like, ah, this dog is, yeah, he's causing trouble, but they learn to love him. That's funny to think of outside of the movie. It's like a dad battling with a dog for two hours of a movie.

That's insane. But there's also, I think, isn't there in Beethoven? There's a villain who is like trying to frame Beethoven. Right. He's like framed him and like put blood on his head. What was that guy's deal? It's weird. It's got like this crime like subplot, right?

It's like, it's like these, they're mobsters chasing after Beethoven. And I think the end, like they get, the one of, I think the bad guy gets stabbed with a bunch of syringes or something. It's like super dark. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So weird.

Charles Groton, he passed away, right? I, I'm not sure if Groton's still with us. I'll check his Wikipedia. Okay. Hmm. I wonder if on his tombstone it just says dad from Beethoven. Oh, come on. He had other credits.

Still going strong. Age 82. Oh, he's still kicking her. Oh my God. I'm sorry. 1935. Hey, he'll probably help live you an eye, Nick. An enviable career.

Yeah. He's great in Rosemary's babies. The 20,000 leagues under the sea. Catch 22. All right. Here we go. He's going to just keep doing this for 10 minutes. Hey, the great run.

He's great in the great Muppercaper. The great Muppercaper. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of credits. Hey, why don't you get the sprocket and the dog Avengers? Sprocket from the, the Mike Myers character? No.

What are you talking about? Sprocket the dog. Oh, wait. From the Jetsons? Oh, yeah. Oh, no. I thought sprocket was from a Fragile Rock. No.

Wait, hold on. Now we're just looking things up on Wikipedia. We got to stop making references. We're not. I was right. Okay. Who wait? Who's the dog from the Jetsons?

Astro. That's it. Okay. I was thinking of Astro. He and I know dogs more than you do. All right. Astros going into the movie. Let's make our own event.

Let's do our DC version. Wait a minute. Wait. I mean, there's two. You did it first. No. We're going to make it better. I'm really torn here.

We're going to make it animated. First of all, which is his, his, he wants to work with live dogs. It's just because he wants to be on set giggling the entire time. It would be fun. And the owners of the dogs are going to be like, I don't like this guy who's around my dogs giggling all the time. I'm going to take the dog off set. We're going to do an animated dog Avengers movie and we're going to, we're going to

destroy you. Weigur. All right. Lamar. Look, team up with who you like. All I'm going to say is if you're going to co-write this movie with Mitch, okay, you are going to write this movie yourself. He's not going to do it.

I knew that was coming. You're just full of shit. Weigur. I think that's okay. As long as I can be a part of yours in some way. All right. I'm going to be like a character who's like, um, like, I don't know. He's like shopping and he sees like some dogs running and he's like, oh, they're real.

Right. Okay. Sure. You just sold yourself so short. We'll give you, we'll give you like a walk on roll. I want to be like, you got a walk on roll. Hey, man, you didn't get all my change. And then I look out the window and see all these dogs.

I'm like, that's what's up. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. We can save them. We can shoot you out in a day. Well, lots of room to improv. So like, you know, you can, we can do a lot of different versions.

Yeah. Yeah. You can do whatever you want to throw out. So your character's response to seeing the dogs fly by his, that's what's up. Yeah. I like that's what's up. Well, cause he already knows he's like, they've been struggling people trying to like say the dogs are for blame to the blame for all the wreckage or whatever.

And I'm like, the only one that still has faith and when the cat, evil cat, you know, really has gone to destroy the world, I see it. I see the dogs fly. You know what's happening? Just one of those classic lines in a movie. I'm trying to think of more examples of that, but that can be like, you can be the star of them of a movie. You know what I mean?

Like, I feel like so many 90s movies have one guy who says just the right funny thing. Right. The best thing in the entire movie. That could be a great movie. So I know where your head's at. Yeah. I know. Can I do that in your movie?

Yes, absolutely. You're cast. Thank you. I would love that all the time. I love to, when I get an audition and I see that it's, it's two lines, it's my favorite thing in the world. Send me out for that a million times over. Yeah.

I'll be the fat guy with a sandwich that's shocked at something like a girl and a guy making out and me like looking on. That's perfect. Right. That is close to real life for me. Anyways, I can play that role. You have the green goblin like sort of buzz your hot dog stand and your hat flies off. Yeah.

You're like, whoa, I hope he doesn't gobble in up my hot dogs. That's the line. Jesus. Yeah. You know what? I would do that. You'd sell it. You'd do great.

I would. I would sell. That's your calling. Yeah. You're from Atlanta. You were also recently in Austin. Yeah. And Austin, a food town known for its eats.

You were talking a little bit about the food you had there before. And I think you were just there this past weekend, correct? Yeah. Yeah. I just got back yesterday morning. Yeah. I know. Yeah.

That was yesterday morning. Yeah. I just got back and they had some good food, man. They had, we went to that barbecue spot called ironworks barbecue. Okay. Yeah. That was good. That was like straight, you know, dry rub stuff and then I got the brisket.

I was not hungry at all. By the way, too. I had just got off the airplane and I was not trying to eat, but everybody wanted to go to barbecue. So we just went straight there and I got this sample platter with every, every type of meat you could get and ate like one of each of them. But I loved it. It was great.

Man. That sounds fantastic. Did I just tell this story recently when I was in Austin, I went to like, there's like a little town where there's like three places that do barbecue and God, I can't remember. I can't remember the name of the town. I mean, I'm sure people who are from Austin will get mad at me, but you basically go into like, like you basically go into like, and they're very old, you know, they're like, they're super old these places and you go in and like, where they like cook the meat,

you basically walk into what is basically like a giant oven in a lot of ways. And no wiger. It was not someone tricking me to be like, but it's like basically walking into like a giant pit. Right. Like it, like it, like you're like in the pit and it was like one of those things where it was like the most amazing barbecue I'd ever had in my entire life. There's three big ones.

Someone's going to tweet at us angrily. I wish I could tell more, but it's such a weird experience. They take their barbecue so, so seriously down there. It's insane. Yeah. And to the point where they're like only open for a certain amount of hours a day, because it's like, we have special people that cook this and we're not going to make them work all days.

If you want it, you got to come get it right now before two o'clock. There's a place in LA like that too. I think it's Trudy's, our friend, Max Mayor goes there a lot. Okay. Right. Trudy's barbecue where it's like, it's like the best barbecue and it's only like you got to go and you got to do the work to get it. And then if you do, it's like, it's amazing.

I got to check that out there. Yeah. Yeah. I'll hook you. I should give a promo for it anyways, because it's great. But is barbecue, is that also that's up there as far as your favorite foods? Yeah. Barbecue, wings, french fry, barbecue, wings, french fries, what else?

That's, I mean, that's it. You want a pizza guy, burger? I like burgers, but only like special cool burgers like, it's like a lot of artwork or whatever. You know, they're trying to like come up with some new, you know, just kind of burgers. Craft burgers? Yeah. Yeah.

Craft burgers. Like there's, there's like a lot of like, uh, gastropubs that have kind of like specialty burgers around LA. I get what you're saying. So you're not like, if you go to like, like, if you go to McDonald's or, or things like that, you do not, are you not a burger guy? Like if you go to McDonald's or Wendy's or Burger King or something? Um, I'm a burger guy when it comes to, yeah, that kind of stuff.

I'll get like a Big Mac. I love the Big Mac. I don't like the onions they put at McDonald's. The rice. You don't like the onions? Yeah. You like them? I love those onions.

I feel like there's two types of people, people who like that. Shit. People who don't. But yeah, it just looks like rice. I don't know. It freaks me out. I think it's more visual than it is that how it tastes. Nick, I know you're a fan of these.

Yeah. I'm a partisan for these onions. I like them. I like the little nuggets. They're good. They're like, they're like tiny and they don't really have those kind of like, they'll have shredded onions every other places or are they shredded or they're diced, whatever they are.

They're almost minced. They're like so small. They're so small. Okay. They're almost minced. Oh, minced. What did you think they? They said they're almost minced.

No. And not like mint, not like peppermints. Like they're almost minced like the preparation. Yes. They put a little Altoids in there. Oh man. I love that. I think McDonald's cheeseburger is so, so good still.

That's what you think. Do you think those onions are a big part of it? Because for me, I like them, but they're like, that's like a small element for me. Oh no, man. I'm all about those diced minced onion. I love them. Yeah. But yeah.

I'm a Big Mac fan too though. Yeah. Big Mac's great. But with Wendy's, it is like always chicken fried. That's the spicy chicken. Yeah. Spicy chicken. Yeah.

I love that spicy chicken. Yeah. This is my favorite. But yeah, burgers, McDonald's. Pizza guy? Pizza? I like pizza, but it's just, it's like, I don't know. Like I like it when I have like, there's like an occasion for pizza, like a pizza

party. I don't know. Lamar, you're breaking my heart. You're not a pizza guy. And you're calling me one of those onion people. I don't know why I'm being so judgmental, some of this food conversation is making me judge you. All right.

No, but I like, I do like pizza. I mean, I love it. Yeah. I guess I just, I don't have that like, I'm not like looking for pizza. I guess I've never like looking for like, where's the best pizza? I get you. You know what I mean? I feel like that, that trend, it kind of hit LA a little bit.

And then I feel like LA just has given up on trying to be like the best pizza place. It's just not going to happen. Well, yeah. I mean, like, I think people know it's never going to be the best. Yeah. But I mean, like it's like, I feel like they're more the thing they've been trying to really do deep dish out here. I feel like they're in some more deep dishes places.

But I think the other thing that's been happening a lot in LA is like the, the more high end pizzerias that have like kind of these artisan pizzas, a lot of them, they're kind of like almost like they're, they're more the personal pizzas where you get like this, like, you know, this like $17 thing with like a duck egg on it. That's like this really in Carlocio. That's like this really fancy, like, like, you know, individually made pizza. And there are fewer of the, like the more traditional, just sort of by the slice places. I don't feel like you see as many others.

Like, yeah, like on Hollywood Boulevard, it's like, you can just walk in and get a slice. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I never liked any spots like that on LA. Yeah. In LA, I feel like they're, yeah. In LA, I feel like they're, they're all like budget, like cheapo places. So when you, when you came out here, were you, were you a big fan of Mexican food in,

uh, in Atlanta? Uh, not as much. Yeah. Like I definitely, I think I know you're going, but like, yeah, like I definitely started eating it way more. Way more on here. Yeah. Same here, Nick.

And I've said this before, but I'm like, I, Mexican food became one of my favorite foods when I came to LA. Right. I think that there's no doubt that the West Coast has control of the best Mexican food. I say that. I, you, you say I'm East Coast bias a lot of the time, but you know that I, I know that that's a fact. It just follows from geographical proximity.

I mean, it just kind of makes sense. I like, I, Mexican food, I think is my favorite food. I grew up in SoCal. So like I've just, I've had great Mexican food my whole life, but the, as someone who maybe got introduced to it a little later in life, or at least developed a, a taste for it later in life. What, what would you, what are your favorites? Like, like, are you taco guy, you burrito guy?

How do you rank everything? Uh, yeah, I think I'm definitely a burrito guy for sure. Okay. Uh, then tacos right under that, I would say. I love nachos too. I'm a burrito guy. Number one burrito guy for me. Nick is a, Nick is a taco.

I'm a taco freak. Taco guy. Yeah. Um, I love nachos though. Nachos, I think get forgotten a lot of the time. Nachos are great. Nachos are great. It's just a thing that like I'm not, if I'm by myself, if I'm getting dinner, I'm just

not going to get nachos. Man, there's something fun about that, that dinner for one nachos though, if you do that sometimes and just feel like, I feel so sick. If I ever do that, I'm just like, I'm just going to get nachos, but I just eat them. I never do. You do, you do nachos for one. I used to do that. That used to, for me, when I watch, nachos for one is just sounds like the saddest thing

on earth. It really is. Yeah. That's just called the wiger. Yeah. Can you get the wiger? Um, the, I would get nachos for one, like for, when I watched the NFL, I would get that to, to watch games on Sunday.

And that was just like, I do that for, uh, like, like a couple of seasons. You were a numbskull back then, dude, now that you're NFL free, you're light and thin and cool. Right. I feel you though, Nick. I get nachos by myself sometimes, like, uh, if I, but it is a hard decision for some reason.

Like I don't, it's, I have to like really think about it and work yourself into it as a single man who lives alone with two cats. I would not like getting a big thing of nachos. I feel like I'm just going to be like, oh man, I got like a big plate of nachos here and like I'm shooting the cats away as I try to eat it and I shouldn't be eating this anyway. I feel like it's a pathetic. We don't have to eat it on the floor of your apartment.

Like go to a restaurant. I don't put it in my fucking cat bowl when I eat it. I eat it on the table out of the cat bowl. Yeah. You go hands free. You know you do. You think that I put my hands behind my back and put my face into my food. I know your style, Mitchell, I do not eat food that way.

Lamar. Don't listen to him. All right. It's, it's, it's hard. It's, it's, it's, I, there's like a few things like that that I, I won't ever, we talked about poutine on the last episode. Like I, I've like won't order poutine. There's actually be the next episode kind of logic.

Oh, I'm sorry. The next episode, but on a, on a double that comes out around the same time as this episode. Um, like I, I don't, I don't like eat poutine, like a lot of things like that I just don't order on my own. I feel like it's such a group thing. When there's something that you just know was so bad for you, like, you know what I mean? I just, I, I try to stay away from it.

Yeah. I know what you mean. Yeah. It just feels like really indulgent. Yeah. When you're eating nachos alone by yourself. It really is. Yeah.

I mean, cause it is kind of like, I think that's, there's, there's maybe something for a lot of, and this is true of a lot of food. It's true, true of pasta, you know, true of Italian food, but like a lot of Mexican food are like the same elements arranged in different ways. So you can kind of like psychologically be like, okay, I'm, I'm just eating these, these chips are what would be a tortilla if I was eating a big burrito. So this is, I'm essentially getting the same amount of everything, but it feels like you're saying so much more indulgent.

It feels so much heavier, just the fact that you're having this like giant pile of food. It's also weird because something, they'll probably give you chips and salsa on it. Oh, sure. So then you're just eating like chips on the side of chips. I've done that move before cause like when, like I'd go and get Baja fresh nachos to go and then they would give me, they would give you like a thing of chips while you're waiting and they eat all those chips and then go home and eat this thing of nachos. It was just excess.

It was like, it was a Kings meal. It's pretty pathetic. A sad Kings meal. Lamar, are you a fan of the, are you a fan of the, the Halloween season, the Halloween season is upon us? Yeah, I like Halloween. I wasn't allowed to celebrate it growing up, but I did do it. Oh, was it, was it?

It was against my religion. Oh, shit. All right. Wait, what, what religion are you? Uh, a Jehovah's Witness. Oh, but I was, yeah. That's when I was a kid. Oh, and Jehovah's Witness can't, they can't, they can't celebrate.

They don't celebrate no ho, no holidays. No holidays. That's not even birthdays, right? Yeah, not even birthdays. I had a couple of friends who were Jehovah's Witnesses growing up and it was like, it is, yeah, it's, it's an interesting faith. Yeah, like just like the, cause, cause that is like a big part. I feel like of being a kid is that just sort of these mutual celebration of all

these holidays, especially at school or whatever. And then to kind of be like, oh, well, I'm just, I feel ostracized from that. It's a little weird. It's definitely like tough. Yeah. And then I definitely, my parents were pretty cool about it because they, there was a time where I like snuck out or didn't sneak out. I told, I don't know why they believe, I don't know.

There's no way they believe me, but I told them that my, one of my friends in the neighborhood was having a sleepover. Right. And we weren't going to trick or treat or anything. We're just going to sleep over and hang out. There'll be no Halloween business. But, of course, we went trick or treating and went out and I went out with them, but my parents never said anything.

Right. But they had to know I was going to celebrate it like they had to. It's crazy. Do you remember your costume? Uh, yeah, it was LL Cool J. That's great. What is it? What would that be exactly?

Like, like, did you wear Kangles or, or like he were, he was really big on the one, um, the pulling the sweatpants. Oh, that's what it was on one leg. So yeah, one pulling one up, rolling one up. But did he, did he have, did he have a specific brand was like Puma or Fubu? Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.

He was, he was the, the models or the spokesperson for Fubu. Oh, yeah. My whole outfit was all Fubu and rolled up sweatpants and then I wore a du-rag and chains on my neck. Yeah. It was like, you could have just looked like a cool dude. Right. Yeah.

I know that makes me when I wore that school that day. But that night your hat was like a shark's fin. Yeah. Man, that, that is the funny, that is the funniest. That is one of the funniest songs like that come with my head is like a shark's fin. Right. Yeah.

And also deep blue sea is actually a fun movie. Yeah, it's pretty fun. That's a fun 90s kind of, there, there was like a, like there was a, there was like a line of 90s movies that were a lot of fun of like deep blue sea. And then what was the one that was like similar to deeply sewer was like basically like a squid, like on a cruise ship. It was something like a deep, I think it was like another deep. I think it was deeper.

No. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Deep, deep ocean. Very deep ocean. Right. That's funny. The deep blue sea.

I remember, I feel like that song made me watch that movie because I'd liked LL Cool J and I remember seeing the music video and being like, I want to see that movie. So that worked out or that worked out for them using LL for that. And he was, he was in it too. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's a, actually spoiler alert.

He lives, LL lives. He survives a whole movie. Samuel L. Jackson, this is kind of like a, I don't even know, I wouldn't even call it infant, but like it's like a scene that, that people like kind of show a lot because it's, it's, it was like at the time, I feel like it kind of was like a thing that was crazy, but his character gets killed and like kind of like a very gruesome way.

He's giving like a big Samuel L. Jackson speech and then like a shark like jumps up out of the water and pulls him in and rips him apart. He gets, does he get chomped in half? He gets like chomped in half. Yeah. Yeah. I think like you see his dick float to the bottom.

Wait, it's six? The camera pans down. Wow. It goes deep. Real deep. We'll take a quick break. The movie was awesome. It was a great movie.

Yeah. You're going to take a break, right? When we're, all right, you know, we'll talk about deep. We'll get it. We had, no, we had a, we, I thought we had a line to go out on. You know what? We'll, we'll, we'll discuss deep blue sea and we'll come back and maybe we'll get it out of our system.

We'll wrap back with more dough boys. Welcome back to dough boys. We're here with Lamar Woods. So before, yes. Let's get back to deep blue sea. That's what was good before we get to our chain and I, I may perhaps prematurely cut off the conversation. Deep blue sea, the shark movie is Michael Rappaport in there.

Was he? Yeah, he was. Yeah. I enjoy Michael Rappaport sometimes. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. He's a good actor. He's fun.

Rappaport's fun. He's got a small part in sully. He just sort of, sort of shows up and you're just like, Hey, Rappaport's there. He's funny. He's like, kind of, you know what? I think he's like a guy who like is kind of like goofy and has a sense of humor about sure, but it's like, like, I feel like people like maybe try to give him a hard time, but I'm like, his character, like every character he plays is kind of

like giving himself a hard time. You know what I mean? Like he knows, he knows what he's doing. Yeah. He's like, I'm having a hard time. He always has that face. Like I'm having a hard time face. Yeah.

He's, he's dope. I like him. I don't think he makes it in deep blue sea. Nick, do you, do you have a favorite? Uh, Oh, deep rising. It just came to me deep rising. Deep rising. I don't think it's rising.

Yeah, but, but then also, you know, I think what started, what started this like, like the nineties kind of like these kind of like PG 13 to our movies that I loved in the nineties was Starship Troopers, which was one of my favorites. I love that. That's a great movie. Um, and, and he's great. What's his name?

Uh, help me out here, Nick. The director is, um, Oh, Paul Verhoeven. But yeah, yeah, Verhoeven. Yeah. Um, do I see a roll up? Yeah. Recall. Are you just pronounced it the very wagery way?

I think he's probably from my, is it Verhoeven? Is that how you say it? Is he Estonian or whatever? He's, is he like your second cousin? He's not my, come on, bitch. My dad always said we were one percent, percent Dutch. And I was like, I don't think that's possible. Yeah.

I think that's like my great grandfather made out with a Dutch. Right. I don't think I'm working. Yeah. I don't think it's possible. Nick, do you have, do you have some favorite nineties, nineties films like that? You know what I'm saying?

I mean, Placid. Well, Lake Placid was, I never saw Lake Placid, but I remember that being like a thing. It was like a little cheeky though, right? It was like, I feel like that was more self-aware than some of those other movies. I got, I brought, I, I brought booze into Lake Placid and got drunk. Whoa.

Oh, really? Uh-huh. Wait, into the lake or into the movie? Into the movie. Oh, wow. With my buddy Joe. Where did you see that film at? And Braintree cinemas where I eventually worked.

Okay. I worked at a movie theater and man, that was, I've said it on the podcast before, but I used to sweat into the popcorn. It was, it was just disgusting. It was just an awful job. Absolutely disgusting. It's not my fault. I don't think it's your fault, but I think it's, it's just disgusting.

Those things are hot. Those things are hot. They were reusing popcorn every night at the end of the night. They were, they were, they would make you scoop it all up and send it upstairs and then they would send it back down. Ask you a question. I used to work at a movie theater as well. And yeah, when, do you feel like, uh, working at a theater, when you

go to movies now, bring popcorn or whatever in there, do you take it out and throw it away or do you leave it in there? I do. You know what? I just, I went and saw, um, I went and saw Close Encounters of the third kind, which I, by the way, I never seen, I realized that I've only seen Close Encounters when he gets to the mountain. I like the, I never seen the first half.

For that movie. So like when he says like he kisses the girl there, like I just thought that was like the, like his girlfriend or the girl that he met over the course of the movie. I didn't realize that he has like a full other family in the movie, which is kind of crazy. Right. Um, but, but I, uh, because of working at a theater, I now just always

will take stuff with me. And the last night I remembered I left something and I felt bad about it, but I always, I'm always taking trash. And you know what? If you're listening, you should take trash out of there too. I think people think that you're allowed to leave it. I think people, it is, it's like kind of like a, it's like that baseball game thing where people are just like, and they like throw it on the floor

and they're like, whatever. And you're like, it's part of the fun of going to a baseball game. You get to leave a bunch of trash and peanut shells everywhere, but also I don't think you should do it there either. Probably not. Yeah. But there are, there are fewer clean, right? Yeah.

Somebody has to clean that shit up. And at the movie theaters, I wonder if you did the same thing. It would just be like, we got to like open this up and like 10. And so you would just like push it under chairs because it would get so hard to clean. You couldn't, you couldn't clean it up in time. If it was like a big movie, like American Pie two came out. Oh man.

When I was, when I was working there, American Pie two, this dates me, I think. Uh, and, um, and, uh, you know, I would, I would just have to, we would have to shove stuff wherever you shove it everywhere. It was always terrifying whenever you had like a big blockbuster type movie. We're like, you know, it's just going to be hell in there. When you go in the, in the theater after that, that is, that's the funniest thing on earth of like, yeah. Like, uh, what's the Reese Witherspoon movie where she's like, uh, sweet

home, Alabama, legally, like legally blonde to, for like people are, they're like, yay, legally blonde too. But as if you work at a movie theater, you're like, oh no, legally blonde to when it comes out, you're like, it's terrifying, it is, it's terrifying. Like, wait, so were you only afraid of, uh, big comedy sequels opening? Yeah. Because they had no regard for respect, having a good time laughing it up, throwing their popcorn everywhere.

I'm going to get some more snacks. My old, my old, my old favorites are back. I'm going to make a mess here at the spy who shagged me. Stifler drinks a beer filled with cum and people are throwing their popcorn in the air. Hey, I should do that same thing to my friend. Oh God, fucking jacked out to this dude's soda cup. Oh no, he just spilled it on the floor.

I had to clean that up. Oh, now I'm drinking it. And then the movie's out, then the floor team comes in and we're just standing outside watching everybody walk out, having the best time of their life and then you have to watch the entire theater walk out of the theaters. I remember specifically, I went to a private school my freshman year and then my senior year, right after high school ended, I worked at, at like a movie theater and I, and for American Pie too, like all of the people from that

private school came in and I was like, man, I'm like wearing this like popcorn hat and shirt. And they're like, whatever happened to that guy. And they're like, there he is. And I'm like, hi, how are you? Like, I looked like a huge loser, which I was. Uh, and just specifically me, I think everyone else who worked there was cool. Lamar is cool.

He worked at a movie theater. Oh, well, this was, I was like, uh, 28 this time, but, uh, but it was like, they were, everybody that worked there was like 16. So I felt like a loser too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was weird. It's actually a fun, I enjoy, I enjoyed my movie experience. There's nothing wrong with working at a movie theater. And let me say this as a movie patron, as someone who hasn't worked in a theater,

this conversation has been illuminating for me. I now resolve to always take my trash with me because I assume you piece of shit, you were leaving it. Let, let me listen. You don't hit the whole time. Well, hold on. Well, let's not go nuts, but we spend a lot of time together. My best friend is my MacBook Pro.

Um, no, but so we were, we were, uh, uh, I don't make a mess, but sometimes I'm like, I've got an empty soda cup and it's just like, I'll just leave it there. And, but now I know that I'm supposed to take it with me. So I will always take my trash with me. I will be a good, a good movie theater viewer to quote Dennis Nedry. Uh, uh, uh, you got to bring the snack box with you. Wiger, I think that's only half his quote. Uh, uh, uh, is his quote.

All right, you got to bring your shit with you. You should pig. They should put your face on the movie theater at the, like at the end of it, like after the credit, are you comparing me to Dennis Nedry? I'm not comparing you. Hey, you know what? You could do a lot worse than Wayne Knight as far as having a great guy. Don't turn this on me.

Like Groten. He's someone who has had an enviable career. Look, here's what I'm saying. I'm not saying there's a physical resemblance. I'm saying though that you could have that same sort of, uh, you could serve as, as a warning to everyone. If your face came up after the post credit sequence of the latest Avengers movie and you issued that warning, I think everyone would listen.

Um, that's interesting. I bet, I wonder if that would work. I think maybe the problem is they, the theater itself doesn't want you to feel like you have to do it. Yeah. Is that why we're doing that? I think it might be part of it. I think, I think people don't like cleaning up their own messes and feel like

I think it's kind of part of the fun. If you, if you, if you do leave a mess, which are good hashtag, I want people to, I want the people to admit their, their sins. I think they should come clean. Um, yeah, yeah. If you're, if you, you, if you leave a mess in the movie theater, hashtag, uh, mess, I confess and, uh, or confess your mess. How about that?

Hashtag confess your mess and if you're a, if you, if you watch it clean, uh, hashtag, Mr. Clean or Mr. or Mrs. Clean hashtag, Mr. Clean or Mrs. Clean, Mr. Clean or Mrs. Clean. All right.

That's fine. Um, yeah. No, the Nicky, you got to take the person who's like, I never cleaned myself up all the time. Hashtag, Mr. Mrs. Clean. She's with me and Lamar probably tweeting it out.

We got two. All right. We got to get into this week's chain. El Pollo loco. This one started in, you know, a lot of these chains that we, that we go to, they start in the U S. This one actually started in Mexico. I was, I was interested to learn a big sensation there, a pretty good size

sensation here in the States. Lamar, it's not something I think they have in Georgia. So I assume this is something you discovered when you came out here to LA. Uh, yes, sir. Yeah. This before Pollo loco is definitely something I saw in LA when I moved here and I never saw it before. Right.

What, so what is your, do you recall your first experience at all? What, what caused you to go inside and El Pollo loco and sample the wares? Yeah. I think I'm trying to remember it at first time. I went there, uh, because they have one right by UCB and I went in there because I had a practice and I hadn't eaten anything and this is going to sound bad, I guess, like I don't eat that place. But I was like, oh, let me just run in here real quick and get something.

And they had like an avocado type, uh, quesadilla thing and it was pretty good. Yeah. And then that was, yeah, that was the first time and I was in a rush. So I went in and came out real quick. Right. That would, this is the, the, I think the UCB theater on sunset that, that opened up fairly, well, not, yeah, fair. I still fairly recently, right?

Within the past, within this decade. Yeah. Yeah, it's probably a few years old at this point. Yeah. So it, but it's like, it's like right next door to an El Pollo loco. And that's a pretty heavily trafficked El Pollo loco. I feel like it's always busy when I'm in there. It is.

It's definitely, I think I saw, I went to that exact location today and I think I saw like the aftermath of fucking, of the crazy rush at lunch. I think, I think it was, I think it was, it wasn't looking good. Right. Um, yeah. I went to, I also went, I went to one in Santa Monica and it's right by Santa Monica High School. And I think the, I think class, I think school had just adjourned because

there were a lot of kids in there. It was, it was a best. You always seem to be around schools. Okay. All right. Come on, come on, Mitch. I'm just, am I right? No, I'm not all, like, check the records.

I'm not constantly trolling high schools and middle schools. Why, why are you wearing a spinny cap? I'm not trying to blend in as a undercover kid. No, I like, I, oh, there you go. Undercover kid. Oh, hey, that might be fun. What would that be? You think like a kindergarten cop.

Okay. But undercover kid, like an adult passing off as a kid. Yeah. I don't know about that. Maybe they use a kid hired into the program or a kid. Yeah. I think that's what it is. I think it's, I think it's like a narc kid.

I think that's the way you do it. Or use, I don't know. They have some technology that makes you look like a kid. Some like, uh, like a 13 again. Yeah. Wayne's brothers could pull this off or something. It could be like a, like what, where aren't they babies at one point, the Wayne's brothers?

Oh, or just Wayne. I think Marlin was a baby at one point. Yeah. Sean, wait, but was also, was he an adult? Is he was a, he was a little person. Oh my God. He was, I think, which I think is probably maybe the, the, one of the most demeaning roles possible, the, the little person

who's the body, the, the body of what was it, which of Marlin Wayne's, right? Yes, but I feel like he was like, like baby-ized. Like he was, yeah, I think he was, his head was there. His head was there. They either put it on, I don't, whether it was, I hope it was a kid and not a little person, cause that makes it a little less insulting, but it was still, it was very strange.

Yeah. Cause he was like a little person robber and then they get, he gets mistaken for a baby. That's right. So he uses that, I think to, I think he infiltrates a rich house or something like that. I don't know the exact plot. I also don't think I've seen all of it, but there is a part where he's

like going to suck a, a, an attractive woman's breast. Yeah. I try to get some milk, but he's really getting some, some more than milk. Oh, he's a little bit Randy. That's, actually that scene is kind of funny in my head. I think that happens 10 minutes in. And it happens like eight times in a movie. They blow that pretty quick.

Also, I'm sure by the time Doe Boys ends, we'll do some sort of taste test that's just as bad as that. Oh, sure. Uh, sadly, um, uh, yeah. Undercover kid, Weigher. There you go. All right, great. I won't write it down.

Um, so I, the El Pollo loco, I, so, so my El Pollo loco experience is, uh, I remember when it opened in my hometown of Lakewood, California, it opened next to the McDonald's and, and between the, wait, is it on the other side of the car wash geographically? It doesn't matter that much, but I'm just trying to remember exactly. I think there's a, there's a McDonald's and there's a car wash and there's the El Pollo loco. Uh, but I remember it being like a novel thing and I'm realizing the timeframe

because this would have been in the late eighties with, this was probably one of the earlier California slash us location. So it was probably within the first couple of the first two dozen or so. So basically your dad would have you walk through the car wash and then take you over to El Pollo loco. Like cause it was a filthy kid. Is that what you're implying? What do you mean?

We walk through the car wash and a father would be. You want to make you walk through the car? Oh, I always thought, I always remember you telling me that your dad used to make you walk through the car wash. Let me just try to understand what, what this part of the, of my past, you're suggesting it here. You're suggesting either that I, that I had an abusive father and or that I was some sort of pig pen as kid who was.

Is the, yeah, you like stunk like shit. I don't, I was, look, I don't think I was ever a filthy kid. I think I was like, like a, like a, a strange kid. I was certainly a fat kid for a time. I don't think I was ever a filthy kid. Okay. So I don't, Mitch, I'm going to, I'm going to say, I don't think this is fair. This line of attack is fair.

I think it's out of bounds. I'm just telling, I'm, I'm telling you what I thought you told me. I pride myself on being a hygienic man. So you're misremembering something. I feel like the first time I met you, you told me, my dad used to make me walk through car wash. You're just inventing something from whole cloth. This is a fabrication.

Lamar, do you remember that too? I vaguely. Wait a minute. No, I don't remember that. But yeah, I, I didn't know fathers were doing that kind of thing. But if they are, I mean, I don't know if it's helping the kids stay clean. I mean, I feel like they should teach the kid how to clean up. Yeah.

Car wash can't do all the work. I think, I think that was a thing is that your father couldn't find soap that would clean you. And so they had to take it to like industrial spring. What I'm saying what you told me. Don't put this on me. I'm just saying this is, this is confusing because I don't feel like I'm, I was a filthy kid.

And so I feel like you're, you're suggesting something that's not established and, and, and, and not particularly justified. Are you going to be very clean right now? I guess I'd say he's very, he was, he was very, he was very gorgeous. Thanks Markily. A nice wax cover on that little wiger. All right. Look, let's move away from the car wash.

Uh, but I remember the El Pueblo loco opened my, my next door neighbor actually, the, the oldest son in that family, uh, adult living at home. Scoop was the manager of the El Pueblo loco. I'm a friend named Scoop too. Is it not your Scoop, a different Scoop, but still a good Scoop, good kid. And he was the manager there, which I thought was pretty cool. But this is this, and this will make me sound particularly Caucasian, but the El Pueblo loco was the first place I had a tortilla on its own.

Like because they served, they used to just have, before they had more of these dishes, they used to just have the, the chicken, the sides, the tortillas. And so as the first place, like we would just get like the whole chicken meal from there, and then it comes with like the sides of tortillas. And we get like rice and beans. And I was like, oh, you can just eat a tortilla on its own. I remember that being like a novel thing. And it doesn't have to like wrap around beans and cheese or whatever.

Right. Right. Remember that same, but I do remember really, really liking the chicken. And I don't know if it's kind of, I feel like it's somewhat regressed over time. Our buddy, friend of the podcast, Evan Susser, was pointing this out a little bit that maybe it's gone down in quality a little bit. And I wonder if that's the case, because it's still good, but I don't know if it's up to the point to where I remember.

I have, I have a lot of thoughts on that. Yeah. I just want to say that I was riding in your car recently in the song, working at the car wash came on and you started singing, walking through the car wash. Yeah. I'm telling you, that's what happened. This is another thing you're just inventing so that people are going to cyber bully me with it, saying that I want cyber bar you shut up.

I think, you know how many people tweet at me, hot salad? Lamar, there's a thing on this podcast, Mitch has accused me of some being someone who eats hot salad, which is not true. No, I don't believe it. God damn it. Man, this, it works. God damn it. But I don't think you were, I don't think your dad walk you through the car wash.

Okay. Thank you. Yeah, that's crazy. But you did like hot salad for sure. No. And also you did walk through the car wash. Also, Nick, so your tortilla thing just made me think today, I went into this use the one next to you used to be a sunset and I got in there.

The, the avocado salsa was almost gone. It was like very much at the bottom of the bowl and like, I think that I think this has been the big difference of, of in the, in the 12 years I've been out in Los Angeles, there's been like, like, I feel like, like Baja Fresh and El Pollo Loco back then, like weren't bad for like the lower standard thing. But then I feel like the bar kind of rose, you know what I mean? And I don't think it rose with it, but yeah, I'll even go for it so far. And this is a side point, just real quick, Baja Fresh, as I mentioned before,

because I the first time I went to it, it was in Brentwood and it used to be like this kind of like higher end, like this, this very, very nice sort of, you know, concept, but I don't even know if they've like even changed that much or just like the bar has gone up or what, right? But I will say this and I think that this is a plus is that I think El Pollo Loco caters to a lot of working class people, a lot of people. I think it's cheap. It is super cheap. It really is. It's a good value.

And that's that's what I noticed today. Yeah, it's it's it's it's super cheap. And and so I think that it feeds a lot of working class people. Yeah. Yeah. And and there's there's a lot and you and I both feel like there's a lot of good things in restaurants that do that. And well, yeah. And it's just to hit on El Pollo Loco and the Santa Monica location in particular, because like, you know, Santa Monica's is is a is was already a rich area when I when I started living there.

I got like 10 years ago at this point. And it's just it's way. Hold on. I'm not some elitist snob, but it's gotten like it's gotten gradually, you know, the it's I live in blue collar Los Feliz. It's gotten gradually more gentrified. And as such, I feel like the the options for working class people, particularly the working class, people who work in Santa Monica have got have dwindled. I mean, recently, this this restaurant, Dragon Palace,

which was like this really cheap, like and good Chinese place. And they did then that was a place where you'd always see like lots of people were in uniforms, getting a lunch on their shift. And that place closed because just the rent had they raised the rent. And El Pollo Loco, I feel like is a kind of like, oh, it has a value at being a place where if you're, you know, you're working a job, you just need to get your work lunch or, you know, yeah, you need to feed your family on a budget.

Like it's good for that reason, because you can get a lot of food. And I think honestly, like the food is like pretty decent quality for the amount you're paying, even if it's maybe gone downhill a little bit. That was definitely my thought when I was eating today. I was like, whoa, this is actually really good for a lot. I think I spent $11 on it. Right. And I'm like, oh, man, this is taste good. Like, I don't know. I think I'm not going to lie.

I don't know. I think I did on the SMA Pollo Loco a little bit. For sure. Going in there, like, well, when I walked in there, here's a thing. I went after the, I went, I actually was even later than two. It was probably like three-ish, three-thirty, almost maybe even close to four. And yeah, I think it was four. I was eating lunch around four. It's a late lunch. It's a very late lunch. You had a late one too, Weigert, just, but not as late as I. It was four o'clock.

I know. Well, don't roll your eyes. Yours was at two or something. Two's not crazy. Uh, but, but so I went in there, they were out of the avocado salsa. It was like the bottom of the bowl. And those bowls are just kind of like messy, right? They just, that whole zone is kind of like a mess. They don't take care of that zone. They don't care that zone.

The cups are kind of too small, but the salsas are decent. Like they have that, like their, their pico de gallo is like kind of like mushy almost. And it's almost kind of like weirdly their trademark. Like, I think that's the one I remember from a kid. I like, I think that's the one they've always had is the pico de gallo. The pico de gallo is like, it's almost mushy. And it's, and it's still kind of good for whatever it works for whatever reason. And then that green, the avocado salsa is, I think it's like their other one.

That bowl was almost empty. Yeah. I think that's like a, I think that's like a fan favorite of theirs. But I walked in there, uh, I got like some of that salsa because like just the handle was messy on my hand. I went over to the where the napkins or there were no napkins. And then a lady was yelling at the lady behind the counter because her chips were stale. And then, and then I saw a lady behind the counter

go to put a bunch of tortillas in the microwave and she dropped a bunch of them on the counter and a bunch fell onto the floor and she put all of them into the microwave, besides the ones on the floor, besides the, that's not that bad. Besides the floor ones, but still like one of them was like half off. It was kind of, it was kind of, and so I was like, in the first few minutes there, I was like, man, this place is a fucking it's like it's a zoo in here. Yeah, there's things going like a thing.

It's not like kind of fun ghost zoo that yeah, likeers always talking about Jesus. And I took the guy took my order and then he came back and said, can I help you? And I said, you just took my orders right from our receipt. There was like so much weird stuff happened in the and the wait was kind of like long. That being said, should I talk about? Yeah, get into our food for sure. I got myself the, I think it was a Chipotle chicken avocado.

Yeah, Chipotle avocado burrito. That's what I got. Oh, all right. Wow. Hell yeah. And I got that with chips and a drink. And so I got the chips and and just a Diet Coke. And I ate I ate that with with with the green avocado salsa. And then I also they have these new they have these basically like there's a new fire grilled menu.

And so I I I got mango mango mango shrimp tacos. And so let me first start off because I because I do agree with you guys in a lot of ways. I think that the the chicken burrito was like it wasn't like a thing of like it just did the job and it was good. Like I was like, oh, this is good. The chips were good. The salsa was good.

Like I said, I poured that avocado sauce onto onto my onto the burrito. I was like, I'm really liking this. The chicken Chipotle avocado burrito, the shrimp mango tacos, which it's like a new part of their menu. It comes on a plate with rice and beans. I came back here. I ate the burrito. I was having fun and I just got these to try something different.

Right. I started off with the rice and beans and it has a what can help me here with the pronunciation, Nick, because I always get wrong. The the white cheese coat coat, Cotea Cotea, I believe yeah. Cotea coat coat. Tia cheese and and on top of the beans, it's Pinto beans, basically, not black beans and and and there it's like rice, that kind of as tomatoes in it. That was great too.

I bit into the mango shrimp taco and it just tasted like like old seafood. It just tasted like oh man, Ron. I immediately it was like, oh man, this is not good. Like I like, I was like, I've never gotten, I've never like eaten something but like that gave me food poisoning right, but I was when Nick got here, I was just like, I don't feel great and it was so strictly because of this. I don't yeah, I showed up and you were like, you were green. I was completely green.

Well, and not not I wasn't strong like the Hulk. No, Nick, you came over your test that you gave me. You gave me a you try to have me pick up one of my my couch, right? Yeah, I said, I said, like, wow, you're hulking out and pick up your couch and you're like, no, I'm not hulking out. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna hulk, meaning I'm gonna puke. I was like, you're gonna wait I'm gonna hulk means you're gonna puke. It's like, yeah, it's the thing I just made up.

Well, you give me shit about it. I was like, all right, man, take it easy. You know, you're angry like the Hulk, yeah, and you're like, yeah, but I'm not strong like the Hulk and then you you put Irma in my hands and I fell to the floor. I could barely pick up Irma. I was like, oh, you're weaker than normal weird. I'm a slightly weaker.

Yeah, and Irma still makes me fall over. How come I didn't how come I didn't say I'm not gonna I'm not a hulk. I'm gonna hurl or something like that. Oh, yeah. Well, that would have been that would have been a clever yeah. That's the kind of thing a clever man would say hurl. And it was happening and turn it made it sound like a cake. Right.

I'm not the Hurts. You threw up and you made a new word. Yeah, no, I was I was not feeling great. I was not literally green. I was my very pale self, maybe even more pale, actually. And I was like, oh, I never had like a one to one where I was like, I ate that. It got me. It gave me food poisoning.

I feel like I've never really figured like once or twice. I may be even on the podcast or but like something made me sick. But this definitely made me sick. And it's my own fault when like being there. I'm like, I don't know. Well, it's El Pollo loco. Yeah, but it's not. I mean, yes, it's it's I mean, yeah, you can say buyer beware, but also like

stuff shouldn't sick in you when you're here. It was much to be doing. Yeah, yeah, it was just so it just tasted old. It was overcooked. Right. I just feel like no one is getting it. And I think that was like that was specific to the location. Like it's not because it sounds like the management.

They're a little rough if they got people dropping. T is on the floor and shit. Right. Maybe they just weren't. Yeah, weren't up to par. I feel like that could be a part of it. But I feel like with El Pollo loco, except for Nick, I was saying this to you. I feel like in Santa Monica, I could see it being like a very nice location.

Yeah. And it's I mean, it's it's good there. It's still crazy and it's still like, you know, I mean, I'd say it's like a clean, well-maintained location. It's not like like has like a new interior or anything like that. It still kind of feels like an El Pollo loco because that one's been there a long time. It kind of feels like it's been it's one that's kind of been untouched

and hasn't been remodeled. But yeah, I mean, the the the workers there are are doing a good job keeping it clean despite the high traffic. Yeah. No, I right. I feel I feel like it's like I feel like most of those if you walk into an El Pollo loco, it's it's it's a little there's a little bit of chaos going on.

It depends. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, the ones I mean, it's crazy. It is the crazy chicken. Right. Yeah, it makes that makes sense. It should be a little crazy in there, I feel like. But yeah, the ones I've been to, I feel like are all like kind of, you know, the not not quite all over the map, but there's some variance in terms of of how well attended they are.

So I think that that might just be just a byproduct of the of the chain. But the Lamar, what did you get on your on your visit? OK, so I got the avocado chicken burrito that you that might get the Chipotle Chipotle avocado. Yeah. And I got a side instead of getting chips. I went to try the chicken because I was like, let me see what this chicken, the actual roasted chicken. Yeah. So I was like, let me just get a thigh on the side. Oh, nice. And then I got mashed potatoes instead of chips.

So it was like it was like a weird. I was trying to get both worlds. Oh, that's great. And like an actual like family meal. Yeah, but it was I got to say just just when you walk in there. And this is kind of something I do love about the place is you look and their grill is going. Yeah. And they have like 12 chickens just splayed out on the grill. So many chickens. So many chickens.

It's so many chickens. It is like it is a crazy amount of chickens. If you were doing like a chicken movie, that would be like a horrific scene where like, like, you know, like in chicken run, it would be like the moment where they would look in the window and they would see that happening. And they'd like get scared and terrified. I feel like there would be a scene. I don't think chicken run would show a scene where they're all cooking on the

grill. You don't think there would be. I feel like that's a that's like an element of those sorts. Like, oh, this is the danger. It's like we're trying to escape. Yeah. That's like the the the food. What was it called? The the the food movie that Seth Rogen did. Oh, sausage party.

Yeah, it's like sausage party. The chicken run is going to show splayed open chickens cooking on a grill. I'm not saying they're going to be like we're going to see graphically dissected chicken, but you can see like a cooked chicken and they're kind of like, oh, like I'm afraid like that could be my fate. You know, that's what we have to get out of this chicken factory or whatever it is. Isn't there a what are those? What are those like splatter fills that like the toxic Avenger trauma films

trauma? Yeah, trauma films. Or maybe there's like a there's like a there's like a there's a chicken one that plate takes place at like a chicken. Is there really? And then like there's toxic goo or, you know, in trauma films, there's just some sort of toxic goo gets on something and people turn it to chicken hybrids or something. You know, I remember from toxic Avenger has one of my favorite deaths,

which is that toxic Avenger. And it's one of those things is one of those weird like moralistic things that happened in like 80s horror movies where like this, this I think one of the bad girls is just like she's in a sauna and she's just like naked. And I think she's maybe is she is she masturbating? I think that's maybe an element and toxic Avenger goes in there and maybe she's she bullied him at some point in the past before he was when he back when he was a weakling. That's a big part of that.

Yeah, but he takes her and he sets her on the hot coals. Yes. And then like that kills her, like just getting her ass burnt. Her ass burns. She gets she gets burned on her ass to death. Yes, she gets burnt, which is good to know. I saw toxic Avenger when I was six years old. My godfather son rented it and I saw that movie when I was six. That's too young.

They run over a kid's head in the movie. It's a particularly brutally graphic movie. It was so fucked up. That's fine. I have to check this out. And then the next time we went, they were like, they were like, you can rent a movie like they were like you and I got to check the dates to make sure this is right because then maybe I was a little.

No, this this is right because it had just come out on we had just come out on VHS. Wait, what did you just look up on your phone? I wanted to see I wanted to see when the movie came out to make sure I was right. Right. Because a fish. So I am maybe off by like a fish named water had just come off out on VHS and I was like, what should get a fish called Wanda and I was a child thinking it was like a finding Nemo sort of like fun adventure.

I thought it was a fun adventure movie like a sassy fish like unanimously. All the kids are like boo and hated me right. The kid who they had shown talks of venture to I was just trying to get my mind off toxic events. It's a fucked up movie. Yeah. But yeah, and I saw I saw a fish called Wanda and toxic Avenger when I was like set maybe seven.

Hey, this will be a fun movie for this kids party. Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. Anyways, to get back to that, they have splayed out chickens. They're cooking up a bunch of chickens. It's it's kind of a fun factor. I like to see that. And it's kind of fun. It makes you like, oh, this is fresh.

They're just getting whole birds in the air and then they're butchering them in the grill. They're kind of weasley, like kind of scrawny, wygourish chickens that they're cooking up on the grill. Right. Yeah, it's not like Boston Market type like real thick, juicy joint. I mean, they look yeah, they look little. They look a little they're not they're not plump birds.

You were fine with me calling them wygourish. Yeah, because I'm lean and wiry. I'll take the compliment you not too much fat on these bones. Oh, God damn it. Built for speed built for speed you think you're a fast. I actually don't think I'm that fast. Yeah, I think you're rare. I don't think faster than you.

Yeah, no shit. You're faster than me, but that does that means nothing. I've always been slow. I used to be very fast. Anyways, it is it is it's fun. It's it's it is good to see that they're cooking this chicken. Right. It doesn't look like the best quality.

I guess it should have been a sign that they were not cooking shrimp anywhere. Sure. Where was that at? Right. They didn't put that on display. Let me get it with you, which I'll show you on the back. Look at that chicken that I clearly see is being done correctly. I think there was there was six tiny shrimp

that were on the grill for seven days or whatever. When I finally got it, it was so overcooked, just tasted awful. Nick, what did you get? So I got the three piece combo, the the leg and thigh. This is kind of I kind of went like I kind of went classic with what I had because I was thinking of what I used to get there. I've had some of their some of their quesadillas and some of their burritos and some of their bowls on my more recent visits.

But I thought about what I used to get there when I was younger, when their menu was more limited. I got a three piece combo, fire grilled chicken, two small sides, tortillas. I got the corn tortillas and a small drink. I got myself a rica horchata, which was delicious. Very good, very good horchata they had there. Pinto beans were piping hot. Oh, boy. And, you know, which is fine.

But you just just be aware of that. I mean, it's good they came out hot and but yeah, I definitely needed to pour those onto the plate to cool them down. Also a thing like they just get I don't know if you if you guys got yours to stay or to go. Did you get mine to go? You got yours to go. I got mine to go as well. Why I got mine to stay there.

They just gave me an old school paper plate for the chicken. I kind of liked it actually. It's just a straight up paper plate. And then I don't know if they do that at every location. Maybe it was maybe it was just just that one. And then the loco salad as one of the sides, a very substantial side salad, like it was as a pretty big bowl. It would the the produce was ice cold, which was great.

I really like that tasted very fresh. Some tortilla strips, which is a nice element. The only point of critique I'd have is very lightly dressed, almost no dressing on it. Like I was just eating a lot of like just very of just just basically just greens. I had to add some of that avocado salsa on to it, which actually works pretty well. But I very much enjoyed this ice cold salad, Mitch, that the way I like it. Seems like you're trying to make up for something there, buddy.

And then the tortillas were, you know, they were fine. Like you were saying, they've been in the microwave. They're out of a plastic. I mean, they literally give them to you in a plastic bag. Did you did you microwave the ice cold salad or no? No. OK, come on. Are you sure? No, I ate it there. I ate it at the temperature was served to me,

which was the appropriate temperature for a salad. And then from the salsa market, that avocado salsa, which I mentioned in the salsa Roja, which is labeled as their hot salsa, still not particularly spicy. It's actually labeled fiery. It's labeled fiery. Really? Because it was not spicy at all. It's not too bad.

I think none of them are really super spicy. The avocado salsa has a little bit of a kick. Just a little bit, but not too bad. And then there's two levels of the pico de gallo. There's one that's a little spicier and then there's one that's mine. I really love that avocado salsa. I think it's really good. It sounds like we all enjoyed that.

Yeah, we all used it. The avocado salsa is good. I felt like with the chipotle chicken, the chipotle taste was kind of strange ish. But the burrito, I did I did like it's funny because they put they put a cabbage in the burrito. It's like rice, beans, chicken, cabbage, cheese. It's a little cabbage in a salad, too, I think.

Yeah. Yeah, a little bit of cabbage. It's funny. It's it's it's it's like a good. It's just like a nice kind of the burrito is kind of just like a nice, fine burrito like like like it's like a nice it's a nice, nice alternative to like. How was the chipotle chicken? My chicken was a little burnt in my burrito. I didn't like that.

My there was a little not enough chicken and there was just a little chicken in mine from those scrawny birds. Those white grits birds. There was not there was not there was not there was not enough meat. But but it was but like still like a nice alternative to chipotle. Like I get it. I'm going to call it bland, but almost just like kind of like bait, like like a nice basic basic burrito is yeah, but it has a good taste to it.

Like I'm not trying to say it's bad. It's just kind of like oh, it's basic. Yeah, but yeah, the of course the tacos. I shouldn't have. I just shouldn't have tried it. It really took me out of it. By the way, we haven't talked about the most famous thing of all about this place is the song El Pollo Loco.

Like does this to the tune of Guantanamera that they use in the commercial. That's what I was going to ask. Is it to the tune of Guantanam pretty sure? Is it really? Lamar, have you seen these commercials? No, I'm not familiar. I could pull up the commercial for a few years ago. Okay. Do you have that ox cord over there?

Of course I got the ox cord. Oh, actually, I don't have it set up. Dustin will help us soon. Sorry, just doesn't just side. Sorry, Dustin. All right, let me see if I can. I can look this up. You all right?

Oh, but it doesn't deal with some back pain. I'm sorry about the couch is so supportive. Hold on. Okay. I also don't have it pulled up yet. So we'll see what happens. Did you see, did you just see Uyghur plug that into his body? Yeah, I'm a little confused by a lot of things, but.

I'm not a Roboman. Oh, sure. I don't know if this is the right one or not. I just saw something called, it's just Elpoil loco. This might just be someone's like commercial. They're in from their reel. I don't know if this is the one with it. Let me see if this is the one we know.

No, I don't think so. Let me see. It's culinary headquarters where we obsess over a new low calorie menu. It seems like a newer one. This seems like a newer one. Five new meals under five. Ah, Elpoil loco song.

They kind of pulled in like, like, almost like the most interesting man in the world type of. They did. Yeah, that guy's kind of really sexy. I used to be the number one amigo for lunch. This guy, this guy in the sound mask before dinner. I was the one. The other guy. Until he came along with the deliciously different char

broiled taste, a delicate marinade of real sauce. I'm going to skip ahead a little bit. I guess this means adios. I think marketing this food to us, like, is this for Mexico? It seems like we're not being marketed to a little bit. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, definitely. I think I think that I think there is definitely the Mexican population.

I think loves Elpoil loco. I think it's a very popular fast food spot. Yeah. Sorry. I don't know what search string did to find this thing. If we can't find it, that seems so weird to me because I feel like that's such a famous thing. It feels like you should be able to find it. I mean, they may have pulled the videos off because of like

some sort of legal thing. All right, wait, hold on. Here's one. This is Elpoil loco theme. This is a band playing it. So maybe this will actually pay off. That's funny. Sorry, guys.

This is a mess. This is not it. Is it a rehearsal of the song? This is so not it. Yeah, this is two guys. This is just a guitarist and a drummer in like a garage. Turn it off for God's sakes. This is where YouTube messes up.

Yeah. They really YouTube fucking do better. Look, with that, that did not pay off at all here. Here's basically my rendition of what it was. It was like it was like to Guantanamo is like Elpoil loco. And it was like very sudden, almost like kind of like could scare you if you're watching TV late at night. Yeah, it would come out of nowhere.

It's like a stinger. It is like Guantanamo Elpoil loco. It was exactly that. It was exactly that tune. I bet there was some sort of legal dispute. So they had to take it off. I bet that's what you think it's gone. I don't know because that was for for years.

That was like you like I feel like anyone visiting or something would be like what the hell? Like it's like such a kind of crazy like campaign or whatever they were doing. I feel like it gets people's it got people's attention. That's for sure. Well, it looks like it's been scrubbed from the internet. Hey, if you out there find that link to that Elpoil loco song,

send it to us. Hashtag Elpoil lingo and we'll retweet that. Oh, Jesus. But yeah, that that song was a that song was very famous. And I mean, that that was like a bad that was a big part of their marketing for some time. I feel like they ended that a few years ago. I don't remember when exactly, but yeah, within the past five years.

But yeah, let's let's get to our final thoughts in Elpoil loco. So here's how this will work. We'll go around. We sort of give our final thoughts are sort of a a a a Jerry's final thoughts, if you will, as a a a a summation of our our feelings on this particular chain and then end it with a fork rating from zero to five forks. You're our guest.

We will start with you. All right. Well, I definitely would say I had a great time going there. I mean, I was very excited to go because it's right across from my house. So it meant a lot to me if it takes a good. They'll be able to go there a lot because I just moved in that neighborhood. I went to the Echo Park one.

I also love that we all went to, I think you went to a West Side Santa Mountain and you were in Hollywood. I was in the Echo Park and mine also had, if you could tell me if you guys had this, they had a very great artistic design on the outside. It was like spray painted cactuses and like, like cool Mexican shit. My Hollywood location did not have that. Yeah. It was very artistic and hip and cool, which was good.

Went through the drive through that service was great. The avocado sauce was great. The chicken was not as good as I wanted it to be. I think I expected a little bit more, but I did. I was, you know, I put some hot sauce on it from my house. That not hot sauce that I got from the place. Some crystal hot sauce, which is good. Great hot sauce.

Great. And I feel satisfied. I've been through this, you know, right now I feel great. Uh, so I, you know, I think I give it, uh, you know, I wish I went inside. This is a help. You know, I feel like I'm purely judging off of a drive through experience. That's okay though. That's okay.

Uh, so through that, I would say if the chicken was not, if the chicken was not burnt in the burrito, I would have given it a four, but, uh, the chicken was burnt. So I got to give it three, uh, three forks, three forks, three forks. Yeah. Go ahead, Mitch. If I was, if I was rating just off the burrito and the chips experience, even after kind of the whole, the commotion that was going on in there, it seemed kind of crazy, I think I would give it almost, maybe even three and a half forks.

Wow. Um, it would be close. Maybe three forks one time or something because I think it does do what it's a, it's trying to do. Yeah. Um, but there's just some stuff that like it is basic. I think I would maybe choose Chipotle over El Pollo. I think, I think, I think maybe definitely I would.

Um, and you know, the, the, the thing that happened with, with my shrimp tacos there, yeah, it's just as unfortunate as hard thing to come back from. It's a, it's a very hard thing to come back from. I'm not going to put it all the way down to shit pit levels, but it's, I think it's going to get two and a half forks for me with the possibility to do better again. Okay. Yeah.

Um, I like El Pollo loco. I think it's different. Like I feel like there's, there's not really another chain that's quite like it. Yeah. It's, it's, you know, a chicken focused Mexican chain. And it, you know, if you like chicken, I love chicken. I think they do a good bird there. Yeah.

The thing that there's some variance because sometimes that chicken that's been sitting on the grill for a time can be a little dry. Like it's been just sitting there a little too long. Um, so, you know, that's a thing that can happen. But in general, I, I, I like the marinade on it. I like the little kiss of citrus it gets. I like the, that flame grill. I think that if you get that whole bird or if you get those chicken pieces, I

mean, I feel like the, the, the chicken is generally pretty tender. Although, you know, your experience may vary. Um, the, the chicken that they'll have in there and they're more prepared, like, you know, their, their rollups, their, your, your quesadillas, your tacos, your burritos, I think is also pretty good. I think just stick with a chicken. I feel like that's just a general guideline. Like chicken is in the title.

That's what they do well. I agree with that. Uh, the only bad part of my experience was that they had a yellow wet floor cone that was like, just sitting, you know, just would like, were like saying caution, you know, there was a spill here and then I accidentally knocked it over and everyone saw. So that's your rotten brain. Yeah.

That, yeah, that was, that was, that was pretty embarrassing. Um, I picked it up pretty quickly, but I mean, that it was just, it was, it was obvious. No, no one was like me. The spill kink strikes again. Yeah. I knocked it over. I didn't cause the spill, which led to the cone, but I knocked over the cone

that was there to cover the spill. So, uh, but other than that, uh, a good experience. I like El Pollo loco. Great option. If you're on a budget, if you love chicken, if you like Mexican food, I think it's the job done. I'm going to go a little bit higher just to average it out because they think it belongs right at that three fork threshold.

I'm giving it three forks, two times, three and a half forks from the burger boy, Nick quaggar. Um, and so I think you just hit it on the head. Stick with chicken. Stick with chicken. Yeah. The theme song is fun. I like that.

I like that it's kind of is kind of seems like a blue collar working class place. I like, yeah, I like that side of it. I like that, that, that I like the fact, you know, like I'm okay with the place that's kind of messy when it's, when it's feeding like thousands of people, but like, it seems like that's a thing. Like I, I'm afraid that it's falling into like some of those messy territories. You know, when you see like a seven 11, that's mess.

Yeah, it's just like, I don't want to go in there. I don't want to go in there. Is it going to get to that level or something like that, but stick to chicken. You're right. Stick to the chicken. And it's cool to have a like a Mexican chicken restaurant, but just, they got to just stick to it because they, they, they have no shrimp, no, no shrimp. Don't try it.

No one's in the shrimp. It seems like so. Yeah, they do. They are really ambitious. Like they, they got a lot of options on the menu. Yeah. I think they, I think they could, they could, they could cut a few things out. Yeah.

Yep. Um, that was all pollo loco. It's time for a regular segment. We've got a food stuff and we're going to decide if it's worth putting in your mouth. It's another edition of snack or whack. So Mitch, tell everyone what you brought for us for it to try this week. And I'll, I'll go ahead and get, why you're not a gummy guy, not a gummy.

As far as I'm concerned, gummy, yummy. Uh, Lamar, how are you on gummies? I'm a gummy guy for sure. Yeah. I'm a gummy guy for sure as well. By the way, Lamar, you have a cool voice. Uh, I found like a, I saw like a stereotypical fat guy. Nick sounds like a nerd.

Uh, I sound like a real poindexter. You sound like a poindexter. People couldn't think I'm a, you correct me all the time. Yell at me, tell me to stop partying and so on. Uh, but, uh, yeah, you should, you should host our podcast. Um, or do a podcast. Why not? Oh yeah, I'm trying to think of what to do one on, but the gummy guy.

Oh yeah. And well, don't just jump on the gummy guy. I think you can workshop that a little bit too. I guess do anything better than that, which is everything. Yeah. Um, well, so, so, weiger, I can't get this open. Oh, whoa. I got the other one you made fun of me for not be able to.

So, so one of, so as a kid, one of my favorite candy starbursts, what I got at Albertsons was gummy starbursts, uh, there's sour and there's regular flavor. I'm very excited about this too, because I, I, I don't remember starbursts being in gummy form. They may, I might, I may be wrong there. I'm a big gummy fan. That's it's some of my favorite candy. Oh, there you go, Nick.

I did it. I'm a big sour fancy. Oh, sour, okay. Good. Um, so yeah, we got the sour starburst gummies and the regular starburst gummies when it comes to starburst, I think my entire life, I can smell them from here. Wow.

I'm gonna, I'm taking a few of these while you're talking. My entire life pink starbursts, my favorite starbursts, uh, which I guess is what are they, strawberry? Um, and then I think, I think, I think cherry maybe was up there too, but, but always, always pink. So I'm going to try to, I got to get myself a pink and I got no pinks. I took 10 of them. I'm not sure if there are even pinks in there.

No, they're, they're, they're on the, they're on the front. Oh wow. Okay. Cause I, I grabbed a whole handful. I only got yellow, red and orange. Oh, I got pinks. So I got some pigs. Oh, wow.

You know what on, on the, on so on gummy starbursts. Oh no, they, I thought they had like the actual, um, the actual, uh, fruit on it, but it's not just a star, it's just an S. It's just in it. Like, yeah, it looks like a superhero. And all right. So they got, I'm going to try to get one of each flavor and a green. I, you know, cause the thing is, cause I like regular starburst and they're,

they're not gum, they're certainly not gummy, but they're kind of like, that's, they're that semi soft sort of, you know, they're, they're hard, but they've got a little, like you bite into them. They're not like, they're not like rock hard. They're like, there's like a, what's the, what's the candy I'm thinking of? That's like a starburst, but harder mamba might be the mamba. Yeah. They're, they're kind of, they're not quite the mambas though.

I think the mamba kind of even set myself now and later. Is that what I'm thinking of? Yeah. And now it's a pretty hard. No, it's just a pretty hard. Yeah. So, so I feel like the original starburst is a right consistency of that variety of candy.

Yeah. Here's what I'm going to say. I'm eating the regular starburst right now. It nails the flavor of starbursts. Like these tastes like starbursts very much like starbursts. They're fun. Um, I'm going to tell you right off the bat before I have the sour ones. So it's snack or whack Lamar.

And I'm going to go for the regular ones, a hundred percent snack. These are, these are great. And also they're not like gummy in the way, Nick, that you don't like. No, like getting stuck in your teeth. They really don't gummy bears, basically. Yeah. They come apart really, really well. Yeah.

They don't get stuck in your teeth at all. It's great. It's great. And, um, can I, should I give it a rating? Uh, yeah, I would say snack for sure. I'm also been looking for a good gummy lately because I've been eating gummy vitamins so much. And like now when I eat gummy stuff, it feels like I'm just eating gummy vitamins.

And this feels like different than that. It feels gummy, but it doesn't feel like, it feels like just unique in its sense of gumminess. Can I ask why you're opting for the gummy vitamins? Well, I think they just taste better. And this is fun. And it's easier for me. I think.

Right. Yeah. Just to stay consistent because I don't really like swallowing pills. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I, I sometimes have a struggle with the pills swallowing. I tried to have a, uh, I tried as a melatonin the other night, got stuck

in my throat as a whole. I'm always choking, man. I took a lot and like, I remember when I went on a date, it was like the first day and this girl made me some chicken and I walked in her house and she said, sit down. I made you some chicken and, uh, I ate it and it was really dry. And I started choking in front of this stranger who I never met. Wow.

It was that first day. And it was kind of demanding. Sit down and eat this fried chicken. Yeah. Yeah. She definitely got off to an interesting start, but I think she was just like, had some leftover and I didn't want to say no. And, but I also didn't want to tell her chicken was the reason I almost died

just then. How about, wait, was this Heimlich territory? How bad was it? It was pretty bad. Like she had to like, uh, she Heimlich me, but she like pulled my arms up and like how to shake my head and stuff. Wow. This is our first interaction.

That's crazy. That's very funny. Did not have sex with her. Immediately. Yeah. Just went down a bad direction. Hey, Nick, I got a question. Yeah.

When you were choking, did Natalie, uh, hesitate? Come on. What? My lovely wife doesn't want me to die. Did she hesitate? No, she didn't hesitate at all. Okay. She asked if I was okay.

I don't like what you're implying here, Mitch. Oh, gee, shucks. Sorry, Wiger. Um, I've eaten the sour gummies star starburst starburst sour gummies. Also a snack. I like both of them. They're both good. Yeah, this, this is a good snack.

I am like, I'm like, cheese. I can't see the way I'm smiling hard. It's great. Yeah. Um, look, I'm going to vowed gummy skeptic, but let me say this. If all gummies were like this, I would be saying gummy is yummy because these are really, really good. Lamar had on it.

These don't get stuck on your teeth. They're, they're like the perfect texture for this quality of candy. And the originals are good. I love the sours. The sours are great. Like the, the, the sour apple in particular, I feel like they really nail that one. These are both snacks. The snacks all around.

We're in the handling club on this one. Snack. These are very good. This is the, the, the, the, the Nick we started or what is it called? Oh, right. We have like a snack hall of fame. These are going into the snack hall of fame. Is it?

Wait. It's a hall of snack, right? This is going to the hall of snack. They're going in the hall of snack. Mm hmm. Wow. Smet. Yeah.

The idea is so good. Lamar, you're witnessing history. Lamar, this is history. Wow, yeah. Another entrant into the hall of snack. Someone online, please tell us what's in there. Hashtag hall of snack. We don't know.

Yeah, I don't remember. We put it like, I think two other things in there. We put something I didn't like in because you want, it's because someone else wanted to. I think we put in an apple because Dave, they want to put in an apple. Dave, what the hell? All right. An apple is in there. Yeah, those are, those are great.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I do like starburst. Do you guys like starburst? I like starburst. Yeah. Right. But I do, I do probably prefer starburst just because it's a classic.

Yeah. But man, those are, those are right up there. That's great. It goes up there with the, if you go to Taco Bell, you can get the, the pink, the the strawberry or pink starburst, icy, basically. And so that those are just as like, and that's a great drink. And these are just as good. These are great.

This is mixing it up in a great way. That was a snack or whack, just like a restaurant value feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today's email comes to us from Maria McGinley. Maria writes, I'm a first grade teacher and every day I find time to explore my kids' curiosities, many of which are about food. One of my students asked, how was pepperoni made? To my surprise, nearly every child claimed pepperoni was made of sauce with one

descending voice saying pepperoni is made from tomatoes. My kids were horrified and amazed as we watched a video of pepperoni being made. It was hilarious. My story leads me to my own curiosity. What food misconceptions did you have as children? Mitch, anything? I just wanted to ask, were you an undercover kid in class? It wasn't in Ms. McGinley's class spying on what she was when she was showing

this pepperoni vid to her kids. I also want to ask for old time's sake, did you walk through the car wash after you got El Polio? Okay, look, the one that I went to wasn't even next to a car wash. It was a car wash. They were nearby. I just say for old time's sake. Okay.

No, because I was never a tradition, because that's something you invented on this podcast. All right. Lamar, do you have any memories of Lamar snacking down on the. You really like these. Yeah, it's amazing. The sour ones. It's sour.

Oh my God. They're really good. Do you have anything you remember from a kid that you were just a wild misconception you had about food? Oh, blue cheese for sure. Like, I mean, well, blue cheese and ranch, honestly, I was going back to wings. I never wanted, I didn't want that stuff to touch my wings or anything. And I can't believe that I ever thought that.

Yeah, no, because, because, because, you know, like you just know that it's made from mold, which I guess in some way it is, right, Nick? What's, what's the science behind it? I don't know the science behind blue cheese. I didn't know that. I just didn't like the way it looked. It just looked gooey and weird. It does look unappealing.

Yeah. The blue cheese, the thing with that I knew when I was younger is that blue cheese equated to mold in some ways. Yeah, it looks moldy and, and, and, and that's like a part of it is that it's like molded and like in my mind, I was like, oh, I hate mold, you know, and I didn't, I didn't want any part of it. So the thing that I had, my, my answer, I guess, is by still a question in my head today, I eat blue cheese now and I do enjoy it, but I don't know what level,

you know, it's made. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, to address the specific question, which was, it seems to be about how things originated, like where does something come from? I'm trying to think of, I'm trying to think of a, of a specific thing. Wait, oh, I have one.

I actually have one. So my dad had a, he would buy like bread from, he would buy like frozen bread from, I think from the grocery store, like a frozen loaf. And then you bake it in the oven and then it would be like kind of like fresh bread. But I remember seeing it once and he took it out and it just looked like a block of ice. So for like five years of my childhood, I thought that ice was bread. Wow.

What the fuck? I thought that if you put ice in the oven, it would turn into bread. You fucking idiot. That's worse than cupcakes or pie. I didn't realize that. Well, that's an opinion you still hold as an adult. I'm talking about when I was a child. You thought ice was bread?

Yeah, I thought that if you have ice in your drink, did you think there was like bread in your drink? Well, I mean, I guess I didn't think about it. That that thoroughly. But yeah, I guess to some degree. Yes, I thought it had pieces of bread in my drink. Man, I mean, that would suck. Yeah, that would be horrible.

You fucking idiot. It was like looking back. I was very dumb. I would think of the dumbest things of me as a kid. Like one was that my brother tricked me into thinking that he had a fake hand like Luke Skywalker and Empire Strikes Back. He said that he got his hands stuck in the. I think I'm remembering this.

I think it was my brother. He said he got his hands stuck in the garbage disposal there. I placed it with a fake robot hand. I just believe that. And it was your brother. Yeah, he was checking me. It was a goof. And then God.

And then I thought that ice was bread. And those just those two. Yeah, just those two. You're the smart one of this podcast. I know the threshold is very low. I can't think of another one. I don't think I was as dumb as you. I think maybe I was smarter as a kid.

Then I got done. And it regrets. I mean, I definitely have gotten dumber, but there was a time when I was smart. Mm hmm. I'm trying to think if there's like any like bug things or anything. I think blue cheese and ranch are kind of the big ones for me. And I can't think of anything else. Yeah, I can't think.

I'm trying to think of just something that I missed understood what it was. Right. Yeah, I remember with like lobster. You know, there's like the the the green stuff in lobsters. And what is what is what do they call it? There's there's a name for it. The GAC. It's not the GAC Nickelodeon Nickelodeon GAC. Yeah, and I thought that that was like lobster snot when I was younger.

Yeah, I mean, you're still not supposed to eat it, right? You're not supposed to eat it. No, my grandpa, you see, it was gross. Oh, that's weird. He's dead from that. And yeah, no, I can't. I can't think of. I can't think of a.

I can't think of anything else. Coca-Cola having cocaine in it, which is like is right. Truth, like there was like some truth to it, but it leaves or whatever. That's kind of also like, yeah, that's like urban, legend, territory, honestly. But yeah, nothing that nothing that I feel like maybe not knowing like what fluff was like, I don't think I knew that it was marshmallow. I think right. New fluff is fluff.

But yeah, that's it. I can't think of anything else. Well, ice is bread. I still don't know. I knew I knew that jelly was grapes for a while. Oh, yeah, that's I definitely was afraid of peanut butter and jelly. I would only do peanut butter. Oh, really?

Which is yeah. Oh, man. And then realize that it's grapes. And then I was like, well, like. I want to give us another shot. That's a lot of chewing. There wasn't a lot of thought. Those are creative kids, I feel like. Yeah, that's like I very because I don't think I ever even thought

of what pepperoni was. I just thought of pepperoni as being pepperoni, I think as a kid and it was on pizza. So I guess, yeah, maybe I didn't think it was me at one point. Or maybe she just that maybe that's going to be the least bright kid in the class. Maybe that's the little wager. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you know, so Doe Boys podcast at gmail.com to get the Doe Boys double

our weekly bonus episode, subscribe at patreon.com slash Doe Boys Lamar Woods. Thank you so much for being here. What a delight. Thank you all for having me. Do you have anything you would like to do? It was great. Do you have anything you would like to plug at this time? I'm not really. I mean, like we white women has a show this Friday or the second Friday of every month at UCB Sunset.

And we invite a guest to tell a story about how they were like the only one person of that race in the room. If that makes sense, we call it a token friend show. And then they come on and we talk about that and we do improv of it. And it's fun. Hilarious group, our buddy Carl Tarr also in that group was recently on the podcast. So yeah, definitely go check that out. And I'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys until next time.

For the Spoonman, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigar. Happy eating. See you.