Doughboys - Fat Sal's with Matt Christman

Episode Date: September 22, 2022

Matt Christman (Chapo Trap House) joins the 'boys to discuss favorite chains, the One Chip Challenge, and Wahlburgers before a review of Fat Sal's. Plus, another edition of Slop Quiz.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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followed a fictional Mark Wahlberg stand-in named Vincent Chase in his cadre of Queens dipshits, E, Johnny Drama, and Turtle, all sanitized versions of Wahlberg and his actual felonious Boston inner circle. Entourage was a critical and commercial hit for HBO, nabbing perennial Emmy gnomes in a trio of trophies for star Jeremy Piven, a real-life famous asshole who portrayed a fictionalized version of real-life famous asshole Ari Emanuel. And though the show presented an odd sort of celebrity for its fake Hollywood cast, fame still presented opportunities. And for turtle actor Jerry Ferrara, that came in the form of an overstuffed sandwich shop co-founded with partners Josh Stone and restaurant namesake

Sal Capek. Open in the Westwood neighborhood of Los Angeles in 2011, slinging sandwiches piled with ingredients like roast beef, mozzarella sticks, fries, and gravy. The eatery elevated its profile after appearing on Guy Fieri's diners, drabons, and dives. The restaurant co-founded by the actor who portrays the fictional gopher of a fictional A-lister itself even has a connection to the A-list, as it's a purported favorite of Brad Pitt and Leonardo DiCaprio, pussy-pussy pal of E actor Kevin Connolly. But Ferrara had an acrimony split with his business partners in 2016, resulting in litigation and scathing TMZ articles, mirroring a plot line that might affect his entourage alter ego. Still, the local chain has thrived

in its absence, and today has a half dozen restaurants and a ghost kitchen in the greater LA area. But do its culinary wares make customers croon? Oh yeah? This week on Doe Boys, we're making sandwiches over here, as we review Fat Sal's. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weigher, along with my co-host, Grudge Weinhold, the Spoonman Mike Mitchell. Jesus. Grudge Weinhold from Alex, who writes, just listen to the electric bike incident and haven't heard many roasts about Mitch's love for spite. We should not re-litigate that. That's been closed. RoastBooMan at gmail.com.

Yeah, how was it closed? It's just resolved. It's fine. It's resolved. How was it closed? Neither of us got a bike. I think the, I think the, you said that to send that there was a dispute, an advertiser was going to offer us an electric bike. However, there's only one bike for the two of us. And you, you wanted the bike. We both wanted the bike. Who's the king? Who's the king who says, I'll cut the baby in half? It's not King Mike. Solomon?

He turns Solomon. Solomon, for 3,000 years of longing recently. Oh, Solomon was in longing? That's Solomon. Congrats, Solomon. Yeah, he's great in it. I said to our advertisers, I said, Weigher may have the bike. And they said, Mitch, that's very noble of you. I said, Yeah, I know. And then we never heard anything ever.

We never heard back. And they, they, I think they pulled their advertising, I think they pulled it because they heard us fighting about it on the podcast, which is fine. It's fair, fair outcome. You don't need an electric bike. You fucking fat ass pedal yourself for God's sakes. You're the one who wanted it more. I know. I would have looked cool driving around town on the electric bike. It's fine. It's settled. No grudges are being held about it. It's resolved. We can move on.

I was the better man. Um, Weig's football season has begun. Wow. You and I both knocked out of our survivor pool, the dose cord survivor pool, both in the first week. That's right. I'd never played before. I picked the Denver Broncos and they lost. And so there we go. I'm out. I'm fucking out. Like, like, like the first top chef and I also picked the Denver Broncos. Did you just, did you pick that independently or did you copy me?

I copied fish or discord moderator. Oh, so he got booted too. Huh? Damn. I think he also got booted. Yeah, everyone's fucking out. Everyone's out. Um, did you watch any games? Weig's no, of course not. No, I don't follow the NFL. I'm only only watched the NBA and pro wrestling.

But I'm, Hey, you know, I saw the outcome that affected me, which is that I'm fucking booted. Yeah, you're fucking booted. Too bad it wasn't a real survivor pool and we weren't just both put down. Would have been nice. Weig's one other thing. Susser slept over the other night. Our friend Evan Susser slept over at the, uh, the spoon manner. That's right. He slept at spoon manner.

Is that what we're going to call it? I guess it is spoon manner. But he slept at spoon manner. His AC was broken. I think spoon manner is pretty good. So he was in the room next door. Me, we had a little, we had a nice little sleepover. It was like, what a blast. It was great.

What a who? It was a good time. Yeah. Uh, nothing really fun to talk about it. Yeah. I mean, there was nothing, you know what I mean? There's no, there's, there was, there's nothing. It just happened, I guess. There was nothing, there's nothing good.

I got nothing from it. There's nothing here. I guess is what I'm trying to say. Two 40 year old men having a sleepover, wasn't like an opportunity for mischief. There were, there were need to add cap outings. You guys just both, both put on your CPAP masks and caught some shut-eye.

It's like putting on like a sleeping, like how people usually put on sleeping, uh, uh, hats back in the day, little sleeping caps. We put on our CPAP masks and we went to bed. It was nice. Um, it was nice to have them here. We watched, we watched the gate, we watched Game of Thrones, which I thought it was the best episode, episode four.

I know this is just dating things, but, um, what? Weigar's having an issue. I love audio. Weigar, Weigar, I wrote, I love audio in the, in the chat. Why? It's me too. Which was such a weird and very Weigar like thing to say that I was just like, oh, all right.

You just moved on. Let's just move on with it. But you know what? While Weigar's just figuring out his audio, I can at least do a drop. Weigar's a little drop. No, we still can't hear you. You're still gone.

Fuck. I can, I read that. I can lip read that one. I think he's saying I love audio over and over again. Yeah. He's just going, I love audio. I love audio. Yeah, we can hear you.

Fuck. What a fucking mess. It's all good. This sucks too. Because we had like, we're very excited to have today's guest. And we felt like this is a thing that's been a long time coming. One of the most demanded like everyone's like, oh, you got to get this guy on.

We're very excited. We're fans of his and my fucking audio is fucking up. And also we get this weird energy. I don't know what's going on here. Why is this weird? I don't know. It's all fucked up. I'm pissed off.

Use that harness it. I was late. I was on, I was on the porcelain throne, as they say. Oh God. You were shitting, so to speak. So to speak, Weigar. You have this weird energy. You love audio.

I didn't do anything wrong. I meant to type, I lost audio. I wrote, I wrote, I love audio. Just not true today. Audio's just been a fucking pain in the ass. I don't think it's true ever. A man who notoriously drives around without music on. That's right.

Here we go. Here is Weig's. Here is a little drop now that you're back. Here is a little drop. What, what, but what brand is this? That one. I think LG. It has like a whole jingle it plays.

Well, I don't have this watch here. I think LG. Wow. Very cool. That was good. That was a good one. That was a good one. Well crafted.

Nothing but an LG. I just admired the craft behind a drop. Nothing but an LG thing. That's what it was. Oh, that's clever too. High drop king in the entire cast and crew of the Doe Boys podcast. Very formal. This washer dryer jingle is near and dear to many of us

in the LG appliance community. And I was grateful to hear it discussed on an episode a while back. This person's funnier than us. More podcasts should be doing, more podcasts should be doing this. Thanks to the drop lab geniuses on the dose cord, my wife and God for their invaluable guidance through this process. Peace and love.

Sam. Wow. Thanks Sam. On dose cord. Sam. Wow. What a drop, Sam. Damn.

What a drop. You know what? I got my, uh, I got that LG bad boy going right now. Yeah. Good timing. Start a little laundry. Just as about your, to record a podcast. We'll hear the ding.

We'll hear the ding at some point during the pod. That'll be a lot of fun. Look forward to that. There's suss, there's sussers sheets. So this is about the fourth time I've put them through the wash. There's still ranch stains on them. Yeah. I hopefully ranch stains, whatever they are.

There's, there's a, there's stains. There's, there's white stains. Wise, introduce our guests. We have weird energy according to you. Now I'm in my head. This is going, this is going great. This is going great. Very, very excited to have today's guest.

A podcast journalist. Oh, okay. I was just going to show you something cute before we, before we introduce the guests. Here, I'll introduce the, I'll introduce the guests. Then you can show our guests something cute as well. A podcast or a journalist from Chapo Trap House, which is on tour in October.

Matt, Chris, and is here. Hi, Matt. Hello. Matt, thank you for being here. Thanks for being here. Thank you. What a treat. What a hoot.

Can't wait to talk, talk treats. Sorry about our weird energy. You know what? That's fine. I feel like it's my, my job here to, to be a Vibesmith. To reorient the vibe in a positive direction. I'm here to channel energies, redirect them in a positive way. I love it.

Already improving things. There's seven years of bad vibes between Wags and I. So it's going to be, it's going to take some work. That's fine. I'll be like the guy from some kind of monster. I'll be the psychiatrist. Awesome doc. Love that doc.

You know what? I saw a good monster movie this weekend. I saw Barbarians. I liked it. Wags. I thought it was fun. Don't know spoilers. There's a, you can't, you can't say anything about

Barbarian without spoilers. It's a very spoilable movie. I guess horror movie. I didn't mean monster movie. Here, also here's, here's a little picture of, this is what I thought was very cute. Okay, let's see. We'll bleep, we'll bleep stuff.

I don't care. Here's, here's something that's very cute. Here's something that's, sorry Emma. Here's something that's very cute. This is, this is what I saw is Wally is sitting here on the window. It's very cute. I just, I just, he's never done this before.

Hold on. Okay. Mitch is turning his camera over. Matt, are you cat man? I think I used to be. Now though, I've been dogs for a long time. Got two of them currently. You're a dog dude.

What's the dog stitch in your place? One of them is a sort of a schnauzer, Yorkie mix with a mustache named Boris. And the other is a Chihuahua corgi mix. Oh man. Name peanut. We both got them. Oh great.

Dang. From a pound. And basically we got one to take, like sort of socialize the other because the bigger one was very hostile to other dogs. So we got a smaller dog for him to get normal around dogs with, but now they love each other, thankfully, but now he's just taught the other one

to be hostile to other dogs. Now they just run as an evil pack. That's cool as hell. That's great. That's adorable. Do you feed your dogs human food ever as a treat? Well, one of them, there's a Goofus and Gallant situation because Boris, the bigger boy, is incredibly, we got him.

You know, he was already five years old. We got him. He was super well behaved. He was like super potty trained and also very disciplined around food. He'll wait very patiently under the table for you or I guess specifically me to drop crumbs that he could get, but he's not going to bark or beg or try to get it from you.

Peanut, the smaller dog, will not only try to grab food directly out of your hand, he'll try to like get up in my face and like pull crumbs out of my beard. Wow. Wow. That's alpha. Yeah.

I feel like we should go through this training wise as well. I feel like we're kind of a Goofus and Gallant situation ourselves. We have a lot in common with these dogs. I shudder to think of how much people would like it if I ate food out of your beard. Some of the fucking freak sew us into our podcast. You could charge more for that one.

I love that shit. Yeah, new Patreon tier. I want to talk a little bit about- If I gave the thing a shake, I'm sure some food would fall out right now, honestly. Turkey sub. Matt, I want to talk a little bit because we recently spent some time in your home state and it's a state that

we've been to previously. You're from Wisconsin and I think that one of my favorite chains we've ever been to when we've been on the road has been Wisconsin's own Culver's. Oh yeah, baby. Or you're a Culver's man. Of course. Culver's is the goat.

I still insist that In-N-Out is the platonic fast food burger chain because of the price point. But just as a burger, it's pretty impossible. It's pretty difficult to beat the Butter Burger. And then they also have those exquisite specialty sandwiches. Frickin' pork tenderloin? Are you kidding me? Yeah.

I haven't had the pork tenderloin yet. An incredibly good fish sandwich. And of course, the custard. My God, who can compare- Custard's great. Who can compete with the custard on the dessert side? You can't do it. I mean, come on.

And they have 12-year-olds behind the counter. So it's like a weird children of the corn experience every time you go there. Have you ever noticed? I don't know if you guys noticed that. But there's an exception to labor law that allows 12-year-olds to work. And a lot of them work in Culver's.

Oh, I heard noticed. By the way, Culver's is better than In-N-Out. I mean, come on. No, it's better tasting. No question. There's no question. It's just I think that people, because of the introduction of the mid-tier of burger places, like Five Guys and Shake Shack,

people kind of got a little bougie in their conception of what a fast food hamburger should be. And to me, In-N-Out, price point, intersection with taste is the platonic chain. Like, you're talking about a sit-down restaurant with your $10 burgers. Get out of here. You can get yet.

I'm holding the line. Here's, watch. Weiger's going to say that he likes In-N-Out better. You're going to say it. I'm going to say, I'll couch this in, that I grew up in Southern California. I'm a late one. Whatever you had first is going to sear itself in your brain case. It's going to be compared to it.

It can never be thrown. No, yes. You call me a homer. You call me a homer. You call me a homer so often. You may as well be Marge, Wags. You call me homer constantly. And I just want to say one homer, though.

Why, I ought to know. Well, Wags, I think you could, I think you could admit here that within In-N-Out, you're a bit of a homer. I think you're a homer within In-N-Out. I've said this before. If I grew up in Wisconsin, where Matt grew up, or if I would like Culver's better than In-N-Out, no question. When I had Culver's, I was like, this is fantastic.

This is really good. I think Matt's point is the trenches. Wisconsin Wags is interesting to think of. A lot of people think I'm from the Midwest, because I don't really have, I guess, SoCal vibes, despite me living in LA County my entire life. But I've gotten that before of like, oh, wow, I didn't think you were from here.

Self-proclaimed SoCal surfer dude as well. That's right. But the- Have you ever touched a surfboard? I've seen them. I've seen a few. I kind of don't believe that either, but- Through binoculars.

What the fuck? The, okay, so here's what I'll say. Culver's is very, very, very good. I think your observation about the price point is spot on, because yeah, that's the thing about In-N-Out Burger, is that like the, you can, it's one of the few places where you can get like a good quality fast food burger combo for like under $10 total.

Exactly. And to me, that's how it should be. So we should give them an a special award. The award for most ideal fast food chain goes, gotta go to In-N-Out. Now yeah, in a vacuum, best burger? No, probably not In-N-Out. Culver's is in the running for sure.

Culver's is very good. Is up there. The Waggy Award. I'll say this, that In-N-Out, I gave In-N-Out a hard time, but I do think it is, I think, you know what, I would even say it's a five fork restaurant for what it is. I do think it is platinum play club, but maybe, you know, it's interesting talking about today's chains,

but specifically the ingredients are really great. Like the meat at In-N-Out is very good. It's not frozen. It's all fresh, baby. Yeah. That makes a big difference. The Wendy's way. I gotta say.

Wendy's claims to be not frozen as well. I had a, even when McDonald's switched, it was noticeable. Like I had a quarter pound ring recently for the first time since they switched it, because I kind of gave it the jackoff motion, like, oh yeah. But then I ate it and I'm like, damn, this is like notably better. It is, they're pretty damn good.

Yeah. We got the fresh beef QPC when it dropped Mitch on the podcast and they're like, yeah, this is definitely an improvement. It's noticeable. So what are your, Matt, what are you like your go-to fast food chains beyond the culverts of the world? I am a big Arby's fan. Oh, yeah.

I'll put myself out there as an Arby's stan even. I think they've gotten a raw deal. I think that the roast beef sandwich, like it's a great, beautiful piece of meat that you can only really get there. There's no other fast food. I mean, apparently there's a place in St. Louis called like the Red Lion or something

that's like, or the local version of Arby's. And it's like, that's better. And it's like, yeah, I would love to go that. But if you don't have that, you got Arby's. And of course they've got the ambrosia enector of fast food condiments, horsey sauce and Arby's sauce. But in addition to that, they have a wildly varied menu. They have a Jiro that has like a seasoned meat

that is far better than it has any right to be. I love that. I speak very good about the, I love the Jiro. They got a great fish sandwich. They have mozzarella sticks, mac and cheese. They're bought on the forefront of even like the developments in the accessories lines. You know, like, who else has Mott's sticks?

I agree. Yeah, there's only one Arby's. That to me is a big part of it. It's just like, no place else is doing what they do. I think it's only fair that the people who kind of besmirched its name, I think we should beat the hell out of them.

So I'm talking early season Simpsons writers. We got to stop their asses. It was a running gag in like 90s comedy, like them, Seinfeld. And then in the aughts, it was fucking Jon Stewart. That's what it was, yeah. And it really, what it boils down to is, it's just that the name sounds funny.

Sure. You could have picked literally any one of them. Arby's has that funny little BY sound at the end. It's already halfway to a joke. Taco Bell doesn't have that same assonance. None of them do. But you could have picked anyone because they all, everyone knows they're all garbage.

Yeah, right. What makes one funnier than the other is literally just the sound it makes. And I got to be honest with you, beating up some 90s comedy writers would probably be cathartic. Oh my God. It might be nice.

How dare you. No one man should have that much power over someone's psyche. Have you ever had the, speaking of your Arby's fandom, have you ever had the jalapeno poppers with the Bronco Berry sauce? No. Truly odd pairing. That sounds bold.

It's really strange. And it's one of the things that I, like to me, just, you know, it's just pure chaos. And I don't really, it doesn't really work for me. I usually opt for some ranch instead if I get those jalapeno poppers. But it's, it's just like a, you know, again, they're just trying things.

They're just like, hey, well, we'll have this. We'll have a berry sauce paired with a jalapeno popper. Who else is fucking doing that? Yeah. And I haven't even, like, this isn't really my type of thing. So I haven't really dabbled there. But they have that whole smokehouse deal where Ving Reims screaming about the meats

that they have with the brisket. Yes. And I mean, that 19 hour brisket, I mean, I don't know if it's good. I generally don't like that kind of thing at a fast food place. But from what I hear, it's very good. And again, something you can't get at other fast food places.

Yeah. Yeah, they got, they got, they got some, and by the way, Bronco Berry, such a, I've never even heard of Bronco Berry. Sounds like a Bronco Berry. Sounds like some fucking Dr. Seuss shit to me. The Lorax was eating Bronco berries. Get that off a truffle of tough.

I'm trying to, it looks like it's a mix of, of, it's basically like a pickled, it's basically like a jam made of red bell peppers, apparently. That's what this, this person has defined, who's tried to reverse engineer a recipe. But it's very, Well, whatever it is, it works. It works with the jalapeno poppers.

Cools them down a notch, wags. It works. Are you like, do you like spicy, Matt? Oh, yeah. You a spicy guy? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not one of those pain pigs. Right.

I'm not, I'm not buying the one chip challenge, which is a really decadent affront to God, if you've seen that in the stores. Man, I did the one chip challenge. Have you seen it? I did the one chip challenge last year. Oh, you did? Yeah.

It's genius marketing, trying to sell chips individually. Yes. Which means packaging them individually. Just like, this is monstrous. But I would not do it anyway, because that sounds like it would be painful. No, thank you. But I like, I like to bang it up a little bit.

I like to throw some, like when I'm at Taco Bell, which is another mainstay, I'm throwing on the Diablo sauce. Mm-hmm. I've gone mild. I've gone mild in my life. Oh, really? I've, I've, I've-

Turning down the volume with a two age. I've, I've turned down the volume big time. I'm, I'm a, I think you're, I think your body generally wants you to do that. So if you can like listen to it, it's usually smart. Yeah. I mean, look, I'll still eat some spicy stuff here and there. I did the one chip challenge a year ago.

I did it when we were doing our fantasy, the Quincy fantasy football draft last year, I was home and someone brought one and I was like, I'll do it. How bad could it be? And it was so bad, like so horribly bad for five minutes or whatever. It just sucked. When it just sucks.

What's, what fun is it when it, when you're like, oh, this sucks. And this will like hurt. Like this is going to hurt my body tomorrow. I mean, people, people, people want a challenge, you know, like we feel totally neutered and, and like we, we never reach our potential. And then we, because we could never really like press ourselves

in a way that is danger, like that feels dangerous and that is uncomfortable without being actually threatening to our wellbeing. Because we used to have so little safety net, so little room to mess around. So all we're left with is things like, let's see if I can eat this chip and then having like experience that can like carry that around as a piece of,

you know, hey, I ate that chip. I did that. As opposed to my day based. And of course it has to come through. Consumption and eating snacks because that's the only self-actualization avenues left to us. So me eating a chip is like, storming the beaches of Normandy back in the day.

Exactly, that's a precise idea. Like you have, you have the one chip challenge instead of Omaha Beach. The, look, I, I like spicy foods. I've said, I've said before that I'm a bit of a heat seeker. I, I, but I, but I'm with you and then like, I hate the fucking go for the hottest tier, like blow it out your ass.

Like this is the spiciest of, of spicy, the stuff that's just pure pain. Like for, you gotta go to the hospital for the whole, for your whole, for that reason. I did add, yeah, I did. I had to go to urgent care for, for related incident at a hot chicken restaurant. But like, I, like I recently,

I still do it to myself sometimes. I went to, Didn't you get a new, didn't you get a new whole? Didn't they give you a, like there's, there's, there's whole donors. You got someone, you got someone else's whole. They gave me a dead man's whole. But then I found out he was an executed serial killer.

Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. So who knows? Perfect fit. Yeah. They have the fucking horror movie premise. Haunted whole. Yeah.

I don't know how many, I don't know how many scary movies use haunted in the town. I guess a few of them use haunted, but. More, more I think should. Yeah. More should. Uh, the, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a fucking like, like, like, give me the spicy. I went to a hot chicken place recently.

There, there's just so many of these now. They're all just like fucking clones of each other. And they've all got like, like the hottest thing is called, the hottest level is called like, holy clock. You know, it's, it's some fucking, uh, some, some strained pun. And, uh, and I just like,

anytime I get the hottest level, like this is just unpleasant. Yeah. We turn our noses at strained puns on this pod. No, thank you. Um, yeah, it's, uh, I think you got to, you just got to find that. You got to find your own personal sweet spot or heat spot.

The creators of dog do, dog do bark fest. Yeah. I think it depends on, also for me, it's different types of spice. Like I generally, uh, I find like the, the, uh, Mexican style spice, like the jalapeno spice, that kind of thing, the vinegary,

I feel like it kind of lingers a little bit astringently. So I like to keep it a little loud there, but like, uh, seshwan, give it to me. Oh hell yeah. Crank in it. Give me the, give me the, give me the numb tongue, give me the stomach just gurgling

and roiling hours later, after I've just been eating just actual, uh, red pepper shells by the fistful. No, I love that. It is crazy how like I should easily just in an orange chicken or something, I should just ignore those little seshwan peppers, but I can't.

They're so good. I can't resist. No. They're so fucking good. I can do, like I know my limit at least. I'm like, I can eat like three of these. Maybe, maybe four, but like three or four. And then I'm like,

the rest you just got to throw away. Like you can't, you can't do more than that. Cause it will, it's, it's gonna, it's gonna come back to haunt you. Oh yeah. You know what's, know what spice I like? Wags.

Hmm. The spice from Dune. I'm a fan of the spice from Dune. Melange. Melange. Yeah. You do have those deep blue eyes. Mm-hmm.

I hear you gotta watch out with that stuff though. Yeah. It's addictive. Sandworms, it can attract sandworms as well. That's right. Sandworms in my part town are all tiny though. Don't worry about it. Little fucking minuscule sandworm pops up.

Just apologizing for it. Sorry. Can't ride you. That's what happens on Dune to the sandworms after like a few hundred thousand million years of terraforming. They just shrink into little earthworms. You're just walking over.

Get out of here. Losers. Wait, is that cannon? In my mind it is. I haven't read like the seven Dune books that were written by his son. No, I haven't read it. I read the first one and I'm like,

yeah, okay, I got the point. First one. It's not like in a race. I'm like, I'll stick at movie level here. I don't need the lore. It's not like a Gambo where I needed the lore, Game of Thrones. I liked the Dune movie.

I was a fan of it. I thought it was pretty good. But why? We're going back to Pandora this Christmas. Yes, we sure are. That's the movie event of the millennium right there. Fucking thrilled. That's huge.

We had Top Gun Maverick and Avatar 2 in the same year. It's going to save us, folks. We're all going to figure out, we're going to relove our, we're going to ignite our love of the movies. We're going to ignite our love and faith in each other. And we're going to all realize that Pandora is a place on earth. And then we're going to make it real. I love that.

I love that. Yeah, never bet against Cameron. I'm very excited. Do you think like Biden will see the new app? I mean, like everyone will see it, right? Oh yeah, you got it. I think he will. God, I would love to put Biden in like the IMAX with the sensor out

and he's just as pulverized into dust. Like they come in, they put the lights on afterward and he's just like, he's his clothes and like his fake teeth. And whatever the hell rug he's got weaved into the top of his head. Everything else is just like, just the stimuli was enough to liquefy him. It becomes a new presidential test. You have to be able to watch.

Did you withstand Avatar? Oh, we got another one that turned into dust. There's a Pelosi dust pile. Yeah, or he just comes in, comes out of the movie so just deeply impacted by it that like it's reset his whole brain and he thinks that in fact it was real. And instead of corn pop, he starts talking about the Navi.

Navi were some blue dudes. I would like a scenario where he transfers his mind into an Avatar. I would love to see. There you go. Get him back out there and fight and trim. Fucking tall ass blue president Biden on the podium. Go into the post. Brooklyn dad defiance tweeting pictures of him.

This is my president. Oh man. So Avatar Biden, I think would challenge Obama to a basketball game and then just dunk right in his fucking face. Always wanted to do that. There is in the original. I got to rewatch yours.

They are playing basketball too. That is a part. Yes. That's a part of that. I'm on there. The avatars are all hanging out and hooping in the base. Man, I definitely get an avatar body. You know, it would be a break.

You got it. They're available. That's the drink. Yeah. If you can pick one up, I recommend it. I've been pricing them though and it's not viable for the general public yet. We'll see if they can bring that price point down maybe with some efficiencies. The next build back better.

We'll have like some tax incentive for avatar bodies. Going to be manufactured here. Well, that's the sad thing is like no one in, no like just a regular citizen won't be able to afford them. It will just be, you know, every senator will be in an avatar body. Well, look, we could talk about avatar all day, but we have a change to discuss. We're going to take a break.

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Do it. Welcome back to Doughboys. We're here with our guest Matt Christmas discussing this week's chain, Fat Sal's, whose slogan is, we're making sandwiches over here. Founded in 2010 in Westwood, just south of UCLA, Josh Stone, Sal Capek, and Jerry Ferrara,

aka Turtle from Entourage, the co-founders. Oh shit, Turtle is involved. Yeah, I believe Turtle has had a falling out since. Yeah, I don't think he's involved any longer. I have to say that does snap a piece of the puzzle into place. That's why, if you notice when you open the door to Fat Sal's that you hear, oh yeah, that's like their little doorbell ring.

Turtle was gonna, remember Turtle was gonna, Jerry Ferrara was gonna come on the pod. Was that true? I mean, I think yes. I pray I didn't dream this up. Is that your fantasy? Jerry Ferrara was gonna come on. I mean, it seems like a nice guy.

And no ill will towards Jerry Ferrara. But I think he had a falling out with the company. And we, and this was, you know, seven years ago, we never have just, we've never discussed this place. Why? Because this is new to, this is a new restaurant for us. I looked up, I looked at the email Mitch.

I looked at the email and it wasn't Jerry Ferrara, it was Jared Fogle who was supposed to get on. You guys came so close. Yeah. Also, I guess the ask wouldn't come from Jerry Ferrara, but would probably come from Lloyd Ari's assistant, is my guess. There are, there are a half dozen locations of Fat Sal's.

They're mostly in Southern California, but there's of course an outlet in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, which always makes you. That's wonderful. Hell yeah. It's like, like celebrity fast food places and sub Ivy League universities, private universities,

just love having campuses inexplicably in the Gulf Coast. Oh yeah. You can eat in the wall burgers in like the commissary of like NYU Dubai. I did see a wall burgers there. I like, I watched a bit of an all wall burgers episode. We may have talked about on the pod before, Mitch, where it was exactly that.

He's like talking about out expanding to the Middle East and like. Yeah. This is an aside, but if you guys watch Wall Street. No. Money Never Sleeps? No. Wall W-H-A-L Street.

It was a documentary series on HBO GO, Max, whatever the fuck. And it's following him around, but not based on his acting jobs, but on all of the businesses that he owns. So it's, it's wall burger business mindset. And it's just him and like his executive bros working on their fitness chain of spots, working on the wall burgers restaurants,

working on all this other shit. And it's a bounce around it. Like it's so funny because he keeps talking about, you know, you got diversified, you got to keep it going, you know, you got to, you got to buy the irons and the fire. You got this. And then like in the while they're shooting it,

COVID happens and literally every single one of his companies is like customer facing like retail food or like services and all of them collapse simultaneously. Wow. None of them have hudged any of the other ones. They are all vulnerable to the exact same parking lot. That's insane. That's amazing.

I didn't even know about this. It came out in 2021. It's very funny. Wow. But what's his deal? Is he like a dry drunk? One of those like workaholics who's just like. It seems to be.

He's addicted to golf and exercise and just like busting his buddy's balls. Like he's got all these dudes around him are all like, it's essentially Elvis's posse only because it's the hustle grind set 21st century and then not a bunch of fat lazy babies of the Keynesian, you know, consensus. They all have to have jobs, you know, they're not just going to carry his scarves and water.

They have to be in charge of the apparel line or they have to be in charge of the burgers or restaurants. They, by the way, have you guys talked about wall burgers on this show? We have. Yeah. We've, we've, we've visited. Drac.

I didn't have a great experience at wall burgers. It was like very down the middle. But I went to also, I went to a very touristy location in Hollywood, Mitch. I think you went to one in Boston and had a little bit of a better experience. Well, it better be good at Boston for Christ's sake. If it's not, I had, I think we were at the,

it was at the Hingham shipyard is where we went and got it. And the food was surprisingly pretty good. And I like, it's like a place that I don't frequent. I mean, I never, I went when it opened, but there was also the AMC down there. But like a, I remember specifically the last movie I went and saw with my dad, which was the Muppets, the new Muppets with Jason Siegel.

We got wall burgers before or after that. Like that was like one of the few times that I had ever had it. And I mean, Bostonians don't like, you know what I mean? It's not like, of course. A lot of Bostonians don't like Mark Wahlberg. Is the other thing too is short. He's a mascot.

It's, it's unseemly. It's also, it's like, Hey, you think it better than me? What are you doing? But I just, I had wall burgers once on the Coney Island. And the only thing I remember is that the sauce, the wall sauce, it was actually flavor less. Like it did not have a flavor to me when I ate it. I was like, I am trying to determine what part of this

is supposed to be sauce. And I couldn't. Just neutral goo. What, what the fuck is the wall? Hey, nothing wrong with a neutral, nothing wrong with a neutral goo. But if I'm not, I mean, they have the whole thing about like his chef brother is like overseeing the menu.

If you're not going to give me like a fancy aioli, what is the point of this? Since you're at the, since you're charging that elevated fancy burger price point, give me something for Christ's sake. No, it's fucking expensive. He's a man, he's a man who wakes up at three 30. He has a rock schedule.

He wakes up at three 30 in the morning to pray and work out. I mean, there's a lot of things that like don't connect him to boss, like we're boss people are like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy? But look, he was good to his friends that, you know, the turtle is based in Johnny drama. Well, Johnny drama is his brother. But like a turtle was a real guy.

Like the, like the entourage drew were real people that he looked out for. I think turtle actually passed away or something. We were doing all this, what was Walberg talk? Turtles dead. I had, I didn't, the real turtle, the real turtle. Turtles dead. I think the turtle has passed.

Yeah. I think he's passed. I didn't even make the mental connection to Mark Walberg being the entourage guy. But of course that's his, he like, Wait a minute. I thought the turtle was the, was Randall Emmett, the guy who made the geezer teasers

and is now getting sued by everyone. But he might be a different guy. All right. So hold on. Wags, you can look this up on Bing as well. Okay. I'm binging it. Well, you know what?

While you bing that, I'll say this, is that there is now a Kevin Hart. Yes. A fast food restaurant in, it opened in Los Angeles. And what is it called? Hart something. Wags, you can also bing that too after you're done with this bing.

All right, hold on. But it's a, I didn't realize it's a vegan restaurant, which I'm kind of like, huh, like he's trying to make vegan, like he's trying to make the vegan McDonald's basically, which I guess is kind of more commendable, but. Yeah, sure. Why not? Don't know if it's good.

It's something to try. Donnie Donkey Carroll died of an asthma attack at age 39, his real life assistant. So. Oh shit, 39. That's insane that he was only 39 because the show feels ancient. It's my age now.

No, this was years ago. This was in 2005. He died like, died fucking 16 years ago, 17 years ago. RIP. RIP. RIP. The year I graduated college, 2005.

Did you know, sorry, I don't want to get too, too much on a Wikipedia wormhole here. I didn't realize Jerry Ferrara dated Jamie Lynn Sigler from the Sopranos. HBO super couple. And now just imagine if you, if you brought that into the real, if Turtle went home to,

had a meet Tony Soprano. What a crossover app that would be. You think Tony's going to put up with this shit? He might like him. I feel like in that scenario, like Turtle would get whacked or something. Like I feel like there would have, that would have been a interesting storyline.

He might get the shit beaten out of him. That's probably what would have happened. Christopher killed his writing partner, spoiler alert for the old show that's been out forever. The best show of all time. You should have already seen it. Walsas apparently supposedly a combination of sauteed onions, parsley, sriracha, ketchup, and mayonnaise.

Got nothing. Got zero of those things. Well, let's talk about fat cells. Matt, I'm assuming you've never bent you, this was your first time. I'd never been to a fat cells now. I think I'd seen it a few times, but had not really appealed to me.

Yeah. Didn't get the call. Yeah. It is very much, you know, interestingly enough, Wags, when I went to bed last night at the past the witching hour, but I was laying in bed and the Godfather was on.

And I was reading it. I was, I was looking up like Luca Brazzi. I was looking up because the guy who played him was like a wrestler and actually, I think was actually like an enforcer for like Al Capone. Not Al Capone, that's too old. Whoever the New York mafia man was. The New York, the mafia man of New York.

All I'm going to give is John Gotti, but that's after the Godfather. No, oh shit, that is after the Godfather. No, yeah, I can't have been Gotti. I have no idea. Maybe. Yes. I think it was probably the Gambino's,

one of the Gambino's, but he was a real life like enforcer, the guy who played Luca Brazzi. And also like the Italian anti-defamation league was like, you got to take the mafia. You got to take, like you can't mention mafia in a movie. Like, and then they were like, all right.

And they like bowed down to the anti, like the Italian anti-defamation leagues. And then that meant that, that like the actual mafia had to be on set during the movie, which is very funny to me that like, that like actual mafia, like, like mob members were there during filming to make the sure things were right.

But fat sales. Look, I love a good East Coast, deli slash sub place. Why? Cause you know, I, you know that I, sure I'm always, I'm always talking about that, how I missed that on the, on the West coast. And the idea of fat sales when it opened was,

it seemed like a lot of fun. You know what I mean? It was, it was not, not far from funnier dialogues where you were working. What are the locations? Yeah. The original locations are by UCLA. And like just the idea of sandwiches stuffed with fries and onion rings and mozzarella's,

you know, mozzarella sticks. Sounds fun. And I hadn't been there in a while. To, to fat sales. But I'm going to bring up my hot take now about fat sales. And I think that this like affects everything is the fries are bad. And so when you're sticking a bunch of fries

that are not good into a sandwich, it doesn't make it a good sandwich. Like you need quality fries. And, and, and so in turn, a lot of these sandwiches end up kind of tasting like mush. Like Matt, like you were saying, like the flavorless goo.

Like a lot of these sandwiches can just be like a big log of mush with like a, with a lot of the, with a lot of like the french fries and stuff stuck in them. Like, like I feel like you need to, you need to have good quality fries if you're going to put them in a sandwich. And then you got to,

you got to lay them in, in the right way. You get, you can't put too many in there or you're just eating a potato roll. So. Yeah. It really, I, so I got the fat sals. I figured it's,

it's the flagship, which is the, Why not? Yeah. And that is the, the ribeye, the, it's, you know, the,

the cheesesteak style ribeye with mozz sticks, onion rings and fries stuffed in it, mayonnaise on the garlic hero with a side of a brown gravy, which is absolutely necessary. If you did not have that, you would not be able to get

anything of this down because it's just so, it was really like biting into a savory couch cushion. I would say that is the flavor. That was what the actual experience was like, putting it in my mouth. And like the,

and it would get cut by the meat, thank God. But like the, everything else was just this wad that we had, you had no real differentiation. Like there was no crispiness to them,

to them, to the fries. And like even the, the, the coating on the onion rings and the, and the mozz sticks just kind of turned into a paste.

And then. Everything got totally overwhelmed. And then you end up really sticking and kind of hanging onto that, that gravy there to, to, to help it get down and to provide some sort of flavor contrast.

I'm telling you, those fries, if you, if you're eating the, the sandwiches in the restaurant, the fries aren't crispy. Like there's, the fries are never crispy.

They, they just are, they're bad. Making that way. Yeah. They're, they're, truly,

they're, they're, they're, they're just un-crisped fries. They're not great. They should change their fries. They should get new fries. Maybe crinkle cut fries.

Something that just is like, something naturally more crispy wags. Because these things are just, they're sogged out. I mean, I know that a part of it is being in a sandwich. And I know that that's going to do some,

some damage to the fries or whatever. But the fries are just are, are not good. And they're in basically everything. Yeah.

You can order them without them. You can get sandwiches without fries. And I've never done that. I should have gotten this just a straight up, like Italian sandwich. And my favorite is like the fat Italian or whatever the hell it is of all the sandwiches there.

That's probably my favorite one. Yeah. Just get the fries out of there. Yeah, just get the fries out of there. Yeah. Take, yeah, remove the fries.

Yeah. I, I agree that the, that the fries are not great there. And I'll say the, even if you get them in isolation, like a side of fries, they're just,

they're, they're just very insubstantial and, and you know, don't have a lot of flavor. Don't have a lot of natural seasoning. Don't have a great fry, which you'd expect from this place is like so much of it is,

they should have good fryer work. Yeah. It's amazing whether you can't get that right. Yeah. Cause it's not even, it's not good product. It's not like they are like, these are these house battered,

you know, chicken fingers. This is just like, like shit from Cisco, you know, this is all just, just stuff delivered frozen that they're,

they're heating up in the, in the deep fryer. And I do think sometimes, you know, they'll, they'll, they'll have better success with things like the, the, the chicken fingers and the mod sticks.

But yeah, the fries are, are consistently, they're consistently not great. I got the fat buffalo, which is chicken fingers. Yeah. Go on.

Go on, Mitch. I was just saying, we're making soggy fries over here, is what I was just gonna say. The fat Italian is the fat Anthony, by the way. And the fat buffalo wags is one, I want to hear what you think of it.

Cause it's one that I, like, I think it's on the better side. So. I think it's pretty good. I mean, like, like the, like what Matt was talking about,

like the sandwich, these can be dry guys. And the thing that, that this one has is that it's got the chicken fingers and mod sticks, and fries, but it's also got melted cheddar, buffalo hot sauce,

and blue cheese dressing. So like, I think by virtue of those extra sauces, it just has a little bit more moisture to it. It's just also though, it's like, it's, it's punishing to eat this.

Like this is, this was, this is the quickest I've had acid reflux from a dough boys meal in the sense that, I'll say it to the point of the first bite I had of this, I got heartburned.

Like just immediately, like first swallow of fat buffalo, I was just, I was already in pain. And I got, I would say like third bite, I was getting, I wouldn't even say meat sweats,

cause there's not much, that much meat on it. I guess like, no. Starch sweats. Cards sweats. Third bite in, I'm getting dappling.

It's like, holy shit, my body is rejecting this. Yeah. It's like an Irish, that's like an old Irish thing, is the starch sweats. So that's like,

that's like very rare. Are you doing it on the way out for a smart, of the starch sweats? It's real fucking gnarly. Passed away in a coffee chip, of the starch sweats. And if you're going to do that

to your body, you want it to taste really good. It's got to be more than just like this, the idea of, of overindulging, which is all it is. Right. Yeah.

You're supposed to be enjoying the idea of consuming that much. It's not actually providing you with a varied and enjoyable flavor. My friend, who I went to the place with got the Fat Bodega, which is a tribute to

Harlem's famous chopped cheese sandwich, which is just a mashed up hamburger with cheese in it. And that one has more, it has like tomatoes in there and like some, I think pickles, diced pickles and lettuce.

So that has more of a contrast to the fries. So it does cut the fries, but you still find yourself grabbing for the gravy. Like even there, with that stuff in there, it's still such an overwhelming

fight you're having with it. I also got the Fat Bodega. I've slowly got that too. I'll say this. I made two trips to Fat Sal's Wags. You didn't have to do that. I'm not proud of it. I didn't have to do it.

It's dedication. It's professionalism. I was, I was a little tipsy one night and I, and I, and so I, and this is,

and here's where I'll give them credit. They used to be open till four in the morning. They are now open till about three in the morning, which for LA is latest fuck. So they're one of the places that's, that's still doing it. They,

they're open till three in the morning. I had had some drinks. I thought I'm going to order up something. I'm hungry. And had I had some drinks? Am I just making that up? Or was I just hungry? No, I think I had some drinks.

I think I had some drinks. Like you're trying to justify why you ate such a heavy meal late at night. Like I had to have been drunk. I know. And you're trying to retroactively make it make sense to like, no, I was just being a fucking

fat piece of shit. I mean, I, maybe I was just being a fat piece of shit. Oh, you know what? I was being a fat piece of shit. It was, because it was literally the night before I had just been hung over all day.

That's what I was. So, which is, you know what, same difference. So I was like, I need something to eat. I'm going to order this.

Bad boy. I got the fat Greek. That looked good. I have to say I was intrigued by that one. This is, this is one of the specialty sandwiches right now is, oh no, actually,

I think it is, it's, maybe it is on the menu. Oh, there's a, there's a vegan version of it on the, on the menu, but this, it's grilled lamb and beef hero,

sauteed onions, feta, feta cheese, chopped tomatoes and cucumbers, extra virgin olive oil, fresh dill, tzatziki sauce, and fries

on a hero. And let me tell you, for it being one ingredient, again, it was packed with fries. It was a starch bomb. I was, I had the starch sweats.

It was like too much, but it was decent. Like I, like I, I didn't think it was a pretty, a decently good sandwich. I had never had like a, a hero on like a,

on a hero. I never had a hero on a hero. I guess I've never done that before. And, and I thought it was a, speaking of Sussian, a hero on a hero. And I,

and I, and I, and I liked it. It was, it was decent. I got a diet coke with that. The next day was football Sunday. Why?

So for my, so for my football Sunday, I went a little wild here. I got, and look, it's too bad that Susser sleepover was a day away because

he, I had a, I threw a full sub in the, in the trash, which I'm not proud of. Oh man. But this is the other thing about Fat Sal's.

Once, once you're done, once you're done with the lunching window or the, or the dinner window or the supper window,

whatever, whenever you get it, you can't eat these sandwiches again. They're, that's a huge problem. Yes. I bought, I got it.

If they come in one, they don't even let you order half of one, which is wild to me. And it's, it's like a foot long. There's no way in, hell I was finishing that thing.

I got half done. I think I got like maybe three bites to the second half. And it's like, I would have loved to have taken that home and eaten that later, but I knew that was going to be no dice. So I ended up throwing this whole thing away.

It's like, this is just like, it's disgusting in a bunch of different ways, not just like how it tastes. Yes. This is just gross. What are you doing? You can't,

you can't, you can't, you, you, you can't put that in the fridge and eat it later. You can't eat it up. There's,

there's just, it's just, it's not happening. Which is crazy because like mozzarella sticks, chicken fingers, those are things usually that you can reheat. I mean, fries obviously are tougher,

but this thing, you just can't, you can't do it. It all melds together. It like, if you put it in the fridge and brought it out, it would be like one thing.

You wouldn't be able to differentiate any of this, the subsidiary items. It's a, it becomes a brick. I think you could make a home, or you could make a home with leftover fat,

refrigerated fat salad sandwiches. You know what? Put me in that home. I think I would enjoy it, but I also got myself, so the football order day, here it is why. Yes.

And I told Dano, I said, this is an order you'd be proud of because Dano is a, Dano is a great order. I mean, like you would see it and you would be,

he would make you sick to your stomach, sometimes the amount of foodie orders, but I love it. And, and I, and, and because it's one of my weaknesses, I fold in two

and I want to do the same thing. This is like saying, Dano is the reason that I eat more food. It's not. I get a ton of food, but Dano, Dano is a big time orderer. And I went,

I had a big time order here. I got a fat cug, the fat cug, which is also, which is also a limited time sandwich. And it also sounds like a, a British insult. Eat fat cug.

Right. All right. Get your soul, you fat cug. You fat cug. Yeah, get out of my face, you fat cug. I almost feel,

it doesn't feel right saying it, honestly. Chicken cug. I found that name repellent. I was like, I don't know what the etymology of fat cug is, but I don't want to, I like, I don't want to think about it.

It's fucking disgusting. Well, let me tell you, you maybe should have tried it because it wasn't too bad. Honestly, all my sandwiches were pretty good, but I got two sandwiches that were limited time sandwiches.

And I think I got, so the fat cug was, it was so stuffed. It was, it was gigantically huge. You couldn't really put your mouth around it, but it was chicken cullet,

mozzarella sticks, Parmesan truffle fries, which maybe helped the fries a little bit, ricotta basil spread, which also maybe helps, vodka sauce on a garlic hero, no way I could even tell it's a garlic hero. But it was,

this one was pretty tasty. I mean, look, it has the same issues that all of these sandwiches have, which is that it's just a dense mess of a sandwich. But, but honestly, not too bad.

I also got myself a fat bodega. This is when I got the fat bodega, which I thought was pretty good. Cheeseburger, chopped up cheeseburger, sauteed onions, American cheese, that's its ground beef,

sauteed onions, American cheese is all chopped up. And then onion rings, pickles, shredded lettuce, tomato, fries, ketchup mayo,

on a butter grilled hero. And Matt, I think this is just what you're saying. It's just like, there's a bunch of different condiments in here. It's cheeseburger. You know,

like a lot of these things just kind of mix well with the cheeseburger. The fries are still too much. Honestly, if you ever go to fat sales, maybe just never get fries. Like take the fries.

Just get the fries, get a fryless thing. And you know what? Like get maybe it, just experiment, get them on the side so that you can like just not eat them instead of having them stuck

in the fucking sandwich. Yeah. Well, I'm going to tell you this. And so I liked that fat bodega, but I also got fries. I got a side of Buffalo, the Buffalo chicken fries, which are,

do they have a stupid name? Nope. Buffalo chicken cheese fries. And again, the fries just aren't good. I mean, honestly, even like, you know,

it's, it's like chicken fingers, melted cheddar and mozzarella, buffalo sauce and blue cheese on top of fries. And all those ingredients are fine because like, I don't need the highest quality

chicken fingers or whatever. And like the taste is there. The fries are just a fucking starchy mess on the bottom and they suck. And so those, the fries, I took a few bites of those

and I was like, I'm not wasting calories here. These are going, and these are going in the trash. I'm not even going to heat these up for Susser tomorrow night. A little, a little,

a little sleepover, a little, a fun little sleepover, leftover thing. No, these things are going in the fucking trash. They were bad. I got myself a Diet Coke,

into regular Coke. And also Wags, finally I got a shake. To end all of this, I got a shake. Yeah, that's another thing they're known for. I didn't opt for a shake this time,

but I've gotten their shakes before. Well, let me tell you, it's, I could maybe say it's the bite of the night because they're very thick shakes. But it was the sip of the trip, Wags. I got the number four shake, the vanilla ice cream,

Oreo cookies, caramel, sea salt, that's the shake, $11, huge shake, and I loved it. I actually loved it.

I thought the shake was fantastic. Did you dine in or did you get it to go? I got it to go. And it traveled okay? Traveled great. There you go. So I guess if you are going to go over the top there, it's just that's one way to go

is on the dessert side of things. The, I'll say real quick about the fries, because I got a mozzarella fries and gravy on the side. I didn't want to get the other option. I was eyeing was the buffalo chicken fries as well, but I got the buffalo chicken sandwich.

So I was like, I don't want to be redundant. This was, it was just like it, this is, it, this feels like that what would be served at the end of like Canadian goodfellas. Or it's like,

I expected poutine. I got mozzarella fries and gravy. It's just like, it's such a shitty execution of that. And you know, just kind of flavorless. I found the gravy very goopy and like, like, like, like it added moisture,

but that was about all it was doing. And this is another one where it's just like, I would love to keep like leftover, you know, big thing of fries to heat up later, but also it just didn't feel like it was going to keep. That was a bummer. The best thing I had,

my bite of the night was the vegan impossible burger, which I was just like, this is a really well done burger. And you know what? It's not ungepochka. This one doesn't have too much going on. It's very straight ahead. Lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, onions,

and their fat sauce. And then I added some American cheese to make it not vegan. But I was like, this is a fucking very solid, well executed veggie burger that I would get again. And honestly, like, like, you know, the best thing I had there

and for a place that celebrates excess, it's perhaps something of an indictment that their best, you know, their best executed item was like their simplest. Nellie also got the fat bodega. And I think she liked it, but had similar issues with just, you know, it being it being excessive,

being too much, she didn't finish it. She hated the chili. And I think that that's like a thing. Like you're talking about the fry sucking, Mitch. I think it's a similar issue with the chili is just like, she described as refried beans with ground beef, just really poorly executed.

And this is a kind of place that should have good chili. Yes. Yeah. I mean, this place is still popular. Like, why is when we went there, when we actually went there in person for McDowell's or whatever. That's right. With our buddy Dave Schilling,

we went back, we went when they did their, what the, what the fuck was the promo? It wasn't for coming to America too, right? It couldn't have been. It was some coming to America themed thing, but they did McDowell's there and we actually had a good time there. Yeah, we had, we had a good time,

but also packed maybe because of the promotion, but I also feel like Fat Sal's is a place. I don't know if it's a tourist trap or if it's just like younger, if it's like kids in there, like younger 20, like younger 20 year olds who are just dumb who have just fallen for this place.

Or you know what, maybe if you don't get fries and it's, it's good. I kind of don't hate it either. Like I, I understand what they're trying to do. You know, like I understand what they're trying to do. I just don't know how successful they are with a lot of it, but I loved my shake. My sandwiches, I think we're not as bad.

I mean, I know from experience of Fat Sal's, how starchy these sandwiches can be. And I did okay with some, still a lot of stars, still, still, still too much stuff going on and, and turning into a, into a goopy sandwich, but, and, and the fries are still bad. But my experience wasn't too bad there. I just, I'm shocked that this is,

I mean, I love that it's a late night place. I love that, that, you know, it's, it's still open till, you know, three in the morning or whatever. And you can get like a big, weird sandwich late night. And it's maybe, you know, outside of, of like the delis, it's like one of the only places in LA you can do that, right? Sure. But I don't, I don't get the love or the traffic there really.

I don't, I don't, I don't get what it is. Cause it's, it's, it's most certainly not like great food. No, I mean, maybe you find the one item that works for you, and then you're just craving that. I think there's also something too, Mitch, you talked about like, is this, is this being marketed towards dumb 20-somethings. And, you know, their first location is,

I went to UCLA as a block off of UCLA campus. Like it's, it's by a bore. It's for, it's for fricking stoners. Yeah. Yeah. And for, and for soaking up alcohol. Yeah. For damned kids.

So I think that, that's the appeal. Emma's actually eating a fat cell sub right now, I believe. Always. So this is, they should call it fricking, they should call it fat aidens or something to acknowledge that this is actually for like zoomers. Maybe that explains the decor because that was one thing that I found very striking.

I went to the one in Hollywood with a friend, and the aesthetic of the signage and stuff, and like the names of those sandwiches, the slogan, hey, we're making sandwiches here. It evokes, you know, old school East Coast carbon, carbon meat based debauchery, but the design, it's like a poke bar. Yeah.

It's like a place you get juice and like, acai bowls. Yeah. And it's like, oh yeah, they made this shit in LA. Like they could not escape LA as they were making this, no matter what their concept was. Like LA was going to seep out no matter what they did. Just put the fat ass on the menu wise.

Get the zoomers and millennials over there. There you go. Their favorite food group. Matt, was there any other food you got that you want to talk about before we get to our final thoughts? No, that was it. Those were the two ones. And by the end of it, I was against the idea of food for a while.

It took me all over the evening to reclaim any kind of appetite. Real gnarly. Sorry for doing that to you. I realized that Susser came over that night because we watched the new Game of Thrones. So I just threw all that away before he got there. I mean, but it was, it's inedible. After like three hours, you can't touch it.

I actually, I forgot this. We went to quench juice bar and we got juice. I got a smoothie. Just like feel like I felt like I needed to like counteract the sandwich I just eaten. Like I had to do. Yes. Appendance for it.

I'm with you. That's Susser's like, he's like, I'm going to stay over. And he's like, I'll order us dinner. And I was just like, I don't fucking want anything at all. Hey, the LG thing went off. Like, there you go. That means it's time for us to put in our four score, I think. Check out swatching machine.

And hey, I got spits that night, but I could barely touch it, Matt. I was, I'm right there with you. Where I was just like, the idea of eating again, just didn't seem possible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's rough.

That was, that's a day runner for sure. Well, look, let's get to our final thoughts on fat sales. So Matt, here's how this will work. We'll each go around, give a closing argument, if you will, and then end by giving it a score from zero to five forks. You are our guest. We'll begin with you. Your closing thoughts, your fork score.

The problem with fat sales is that it is, what happens when you try to make a meme into a restaurant? You try, you try to take the concept of ironically overeating and then have to make food, make food that people then have to actually eat. That's an inherent contradiction. And yeah, the only people who can square that contradiction are the young and idiotic.

So for them, this is probably a wonderful, like we were talking about, you know, challenging yourself since you don't have Normandy. Well, you have fat sales. You can eat that whole thing. You can maybe try and eat more than one. Add fries. Put something on the fries.

Like, there you go. You've challenged yourself and you are finding meaning in the struggle. There are literally food challenges here too, by the way. Oh yes, I was looking at that. They've got like a thing that's like, it's got cheeseburgers and like the buffalo strips and the pastrami.

And then of course, the fries on top of that and then a bunch of stuff. And it's like 27 inches long. And you have 40 minutes to eat it. And then if you do, it's free. That's such a funny thing of like, wow, it's free. After all this, like you just get that. Guess what?

Right, right. You paid for it. Don't worry about it. And oh, but they also though, if you're for a shake fan, they also have one of those challenges for the shakes. 30 scoops of vanilla ice cream, 30 scoops of chocolate ice cream, cakes, cookies, candies, pretzel syrup,

two cans of whipped cream, served in a souvenir custom glass. You got 10 minutes to eat that, bad boy. Or else it's 100 bucks. 10 minutes. 10 minutes. How would you be able to sustain that? 60 scoops of ice cream.

60 scoops. The headache would destroy you. Your head would literally split. 60 scoops. No, I feel like no one has done that, but. No, I don't think anyone has. But I'm an old man and if I tried to live that life, I'd be dead on Tuesday and I've got better ways to kill myself.

So I'll give it two spoons. Wow. Two forks. Two forks. Two forks and a spoon. Wow. Wow. It's tough for me because I do want to like it.

And I like sub shops though. This is like a weird Frankenstein sub shop. It's not a real east coast Italian deli or whatever or a sub shop that I'm used to. It's a Frankenstein place where they're putting mozzarella sticks and chicken tenders, which again, may not be of the best quality. I think that is also an issue with it. But I got to say, the things I like about it, it's open late.

They stick to their theme wigs. And if you know what you're going to get going in, you can leave with a decent sandwich or really if you need, you know, it's late night and you've been out and you want to order delivery. That's the way to do it. But I got to say, I got to give them credit for that shake because that shake was damn good. It was really, really, really good.

And I think that they get, I think it's frustrating because I think that this place could be something that is kind of unique in LA and I mean, it is unique in its own way. But I'm saying like, it could be unique and it also could be good. Like it could actually be decent, but there's stuff in subs with bad fries and you're kind of It's a bad fry restaurant. And it's a bad fry restaurant. It's just, and it's hard to overcome that. So look, you're getting three forks over here, three, four, three, four, three freaking forks,

three freaking forks, no golden play club for you. No, it's this is this place isn't getting in fat cug. I wish it was. Yeah, I just, I mean, I, I'm parroting both of you, but I just wish it was better. I mean, I think that the concept is, is focused. I think they, they're, what they're trying to do is, you know, excess for excess's sake, but it's just not, it's just bad food. It's just, it's just not well executed.

And, you know, I think, I think there's, I think a lot of the stuff is a lot of these sandwiches are dry guys. That's a big issue. There's just not enough moisture. There's, there's too many fried components and, and I, you know, I have one good memory about this place, which is going to earn it a half fork, which is that I went here during the 2011 Western Conference playoffs where the eight seed Muffalo, the eight seed Memphis Grizzlies upset the one seed San Antonio Spurs.

I like, I went there and like, I was like, that's pretty good. Watching that game there and then listening to some of it in my car and I got some good who won that year. Stromboli fries. That was the year that the Grizzlies upset them. They wanted the Grizzlies one and six over all that year. That too, 2011 would have been the, the Mavericks. That was the Dirk year.

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, so, but yeah, what they now call their Stromboli fries, that was, those were pretty good. They're, they're like, you know, a bunch of pepperoni and pizza toppings on their fries and I thought about getting those again, but I kind of just didn't want them.

So for that reason, I'll go, I'll go two and a half forks for fat sows. Well, there you go. That's our review of fat sows. We're going to take a break. We'll be back with more dough boys. You know, Mitch, you're about to take a little trip abroad. You're going to Costa Rica. That's right.

Why? So I'm going to Costa Rica with the family. It's going to be a lot of fun. Going to maybe see a monkey. Oh, that's fun. Going to maybe see a bird. Just that, just a one monkey, one bird. That's it.

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when you were characterizing the Anti-Defamation League. I'm going to wake up with you songs head in my bed. This is Slop Quiz calorie count edition. This was compiled by our associate producer Emilio Moreno. The query we're going to go for here is, which food stuff makes you more stuffed, i.e., which food has more calories? I'll give you two food items. You answer which one is caloric, more caloric. You can buzz in with your name and I will keep score.

First up, your options are McDonald's Big Mac or the Burger King Whopper, which has more calories. Go ahead, Mitch. The Whopper. You are correct. The Whopper apparently has a whopping 670 calories compared to the Max 550. All right, Mitch is on the board. We just ate that alone as a sandwich. It's not too bad. That's a dinner. You know, you're just your dinner? Yeah, it's not terrible.

I don't know. I think if you can get out of a fast food meal with under a thousand calories total, I'm just like, that's whatever. It's an indulgence, but you're not going to kill yourself. All right, next up, which has more calories? The DQ Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Blizzard. This is medium or a Sonic Hot Fudge Classic Shake, size unspecified. Size unspecified? Yeah, I don't know. There's no size near. Take it up with Emilio.

So DQ Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Blizzard or Sonic Hot Fudge Classic Shake, which has more calories. Anyone can buzz in. My gut is the Sonic one. Hot fudge, baby. No, it's the DQ. Yeah, the DQ has 1030 to Sonic's 940. 1030? It's a lot. It's very caloric. It's a lot.

Those blizzards are brutal, yeah. Matt, are you a DQ guy? Do you like a sweet treat? I was as a kid. We had a DQ in my hometown and I would go there. Love the Dilly Bar. It was not as big on the hot items. It was mostly just get the desserts. Haven't been in a very long time. The Brazier, they were out. They would kind of try to do the burger king thing. We have a Brazier. We're cooking it on a grill.

That's right. We have three box. But I was usually like, I'd rather have Taco Bell and then get a Dilly Bar. Yeah. Matt, were you a fan of the cops? Oh, yeah. The custard stand? Yeah. I worked at one briefly after college.

Wow. You worked at cops. Fired for stealing $100 bill out of the till. I had not done, but I had to talk my way out of a police interview with a very dumb cop who tried to threaten me with a 100% accurate lie detector test that would prove that I was lying. And I was like, well, I hadn't done it one and two. I knew that they weren't even admissible in court anyway. So I was like, yeah, that sounds fun. Let's do it.

And then he never, of course, contacted me. He was just trying to see if I was dumb enough to freak out and confess. Right. Very annoying because I realized I could have actually taken the money and I would have gotten away with it and all I would have had lost is that stupid job. I was going to say, Matt, there is a $100 bill framed behind you. I was wondering if that was though. That's right.

My first grift. How long did you work at cops? Very briefly, like I said, I was there for like a couple of months. They didn't like me anyway. Oh, wow. So it was like, it was easy to get me out the door. What were you doing there? I was the cashier mostly and I would make the ice cream cone that people asked for.

But it was, yeah, there was like a kitchen staff and then the front of the house people talking on the registers. And it was 100% racially segregated. It was pretty funny. Oh, wow. That's like everybody in the kitchen was black. Everybody behind the registers was white. Jesus Christ.

It's funny because people were like, you got to do cops. It was like the Culver's follow up. We had been, people have basically been harassing us to do Culver's for so long. They were like, you got to try Culver's. They were going crazy about Culver's. We tried it. It was great. And then the follow up, the sequel, Cops was still good.

Don't get me wrong. It's not as good. It's not as good. It's not as good. No, it's a entirely lower graded deal. It's fun. It's fine. Yeah, it's fine.

Yeah, you can't compare the two. Those, the butter burgers with the crisp edge. Yeah. Yeah, great burger. Love that butter burger. I want one. All right. Next up, we're in Saustown.

Chick-fil-A sauce versus Raising Cane's Cane sauce. Similar sauces. Oh, Mitch. Which has more calories. Go ahead, Mitch. Raising Cane's Cane sauce. Cane sauce is more caloric. You are correct.

Wow. You got two points. All right. Next one. Deal with a snack here. 12 Cool Ranch Dorito chips or 55 Goldfish crackers. The Doritos. You are correct, Matt.

You're on the board. 12 Doritos is more than 55 Goldfish. It's that flavor, baby. You're paying for it. You're paying for those packed in flavor crystals. You sure are. And also baked versus fried, right? Goldfish are baked.

That'll do it. Wow. Still worth it. All right. Here's another one. 500 Takis, Fuego flavor or 100 Oreos. What the fuck? It's got to be 100 Oreos.

That seems like it would be like a brick in your stomach. It would be harder to eat 100 Oreos, but surprisingly, apparently 500 Takis are more caloric, 6,000 calories to 5,300 calories. Yeah. I've definitely taken a whole, like a whole, you know, I'll take down a whole sleeve of Oreos. You know, maybe not a whole bag necessarily, but I'll take, like, I'll take a golden Oreos.

I'll take one of those whole columns. And yeah, it's always painful. It's never worth it. All right. Next up. Talking Arby's. One Arby's triple decker club or 19 hard-boiled eggs. I like this being your two choices.

Those are your options. Arby's triple decker 19 hard-boiled eggs. I'll let our guests go. I'll say the eggs. You are correct. It is the eggs. Wow. Yeah.

Well-crafted question. I was misled by the specificity. I was like, that's got to be the Arby's, but no, it was the eggs. All right, a couple more. Purina urinary tract health chicken entree cat food. This is a three ounce can or one pouch of fruit gushers. Mitch. Go ahead, Mitch.

You're the cat man. The gushers. No, I'm sorry. It's the cat food. Urinary tract health chicken entree cat food. It's the cat. Oh, wow. I guess that makes sense.

Mildly more color. I thought it was a trick question. Yeah, exactly. That's just like a classic trick question. I was like, that's right. That's what those gushers are doing to you. They should make little cat gushers. Something with a little gravy inside of them.

You know what I'm saying? Sure. They love that. Can a cat handle a gummy texture? Can cat teeth chew through a gummy? I'm not saying they necessarily have to be gummy, but a cat version of a gusher. Got it.

So some sort of exploding treat, some sort of pop in your mouth treat. Make it happen, Friskies. Make it happen. All right, last one. This will decide it, whether this is knotted up at two apiece or whether one of you triumphs. Your options are a pack of trident white peppermint gushers.

Gum or five teaspoons of human cum. Gum or cum? I'm going to go gum. You are correct. Matt takes it. Three to two. There was the trick question. It's like, it's the stuff of life for God's sakes.

It's like, nope. Nothing compared to what the good people at Wrigley could slap together. Wow. Five teaspoons. I can't tell if that's a lot or a little. I just can't visualize it. Five teaspoons.

Yeah. I feel like I probably average a teaspoon per load, is my guess. That's what I'm thinking. This sounds like Peter North territory. Five teaspoons. That's substantial. Jesus.

Hey, that was Slop Quiz Calorie Count edition. Just like a restaurant via your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. And we have a voicemail today. Am I, do you want to queue this up? Yes, they have this. Ready to go. All right, here we go.

Hey, deal boys. It's Alex from Nashville just working in the ice cream truck. And I had a question for you. If you could bring back any high school cafeteria meal, what would it be? Mine would be the spaghetti. It was so freaking good. Thanks for all the laughs.

Love you guys. Have a good one. He said it was a little broken up, but he said his would be spaghetti. It was so freaking good. Thanks for your service working that ice cream truck, Alex. The interesting, I get what the question is, but interesting to like use spaghetti as the example here,

because I don't feel like that's a thing that's disappeared from my diet since elementary school, right? You're like square pizzas or like American chop suey, which is something that I brought up on here and people were confused by, which is basically macaroni and beef and like different veggies or whatever in it. Um, okay, I get it.

Look, I'm just going to go out straight ahead and say it. Chicken patty Tuesdays. We had chicken patties. The chicken patties were the big thing. That's whatever. That was not a long. She's also from the northeast. Chicken patties.

I agree. They were the best. That's exactly what my first thought was the chicken patties. They got banned eventually. Did they really? Why? Because it's just fried. It's like a fried.

Too much sodium. Mmm. Mmm. Fucking Michelle Obama. That must have been Michelle Obama initiative. We had our ability to have delicious sodium filled chicken cutlets. Meanwhile, Barack, he's taking those things down

in his new avatar body. He doesn't give a shit. Wait, for people who aren't familiar, describe what you're talking about with chicken patty Tuesdays or whatever day it is. Here's this. A bun. This is truly it.

A bun and a fried chicken circular patty and nothing else. Yep. That was what a chicken patty was. Sometimes there was a spicy option. Sometimes you could get a spicy one. And if you're extra lucky, you might get a piece of cheese. That was after my time. For me, it was just so much like a patty of fried chicken patty

into a bun. I mean, I wonder if eating it now, if I would be like, this is like horrid. If they wouldn't hold up at all. But that chicken patty, maybe you're getting yourself a frutopia. I guess I could just even just say frutopia to bring back frutopia.

And then there's Emma. You probably know the chocolate chip cookies. They came in a, I mean, obviously there were circles because they're cookies. But they came in that clear package with the yellow writing on it. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I can visualize them.

I don't know the name though. They were good too. And like the clear cellophane, right? Yep. Yep. That was it. That, I mean, like, that was a meal right there. Sometimes you would like, in middle school, I don't think we got fries.

In high school, you get fries. But I don't know what they served with the chicken patty. But the chicken patty was it, Wikes. That was, that was the, that was the big one. So I, it's weird for me to answer this question because I went to the largest school district in the state of Wisconsin that did not have a school provided hot lunch program.

Wow. Whoa. That's fucking crazy. They never wanted to pay for it. They did a bond issue in the, in the county when I was, I think in like high school and it failed. They said, no, fuck you. We still don't want to pay for kids to eat food.

So I was always just eating stuff from home. So I didn't have a lot of experience with cafeteria until I went to college. And there it was not the chicken cutlet, but the turkey cutlet. It was a flat fried turkey kind of schnitzel-y guy that was absolutely the best thing. And I would always get that when it was out there.

Tons of light. I have not really eaten anything remotely similar to that ever since. I had plenty of fried chicken. And you know, even like a fried chicken sandwich doesn't really, really hit the spot the way that the turkey cutlet did, especially since that's what was always called

breaded turkey cutlet. And was it just a, was it just a cutlet, a la carte or were you getting that between a bun? There would be, no, no bun, but there were sides you could get. Right. Potatoes and such. What college was this?

Oh, Carroll College. It was in, in Waukesha, Wisconsin. Oh. Small liberal arts school. The, yeah. I don't have any particular nostalgia for any, for any dorm food, but I, I can, I think it back to like, first off, I've maybe said this on the podcast before,

but in our elementary school, Riley Elementary, Lakewood, California. We had a, uh, Go Road Roaders. We had a, there was like a, a vote. There was like a student vote for favorite cafeteria item and chicken fried steak won in a landslide. Wow.

We loved the chicken fried steak there. It was a fucking terrific. That's wild for, yeah. I know, I've, I've heard this before, but that was wild for like younger people that that's the number one. I mean, it's great. It was just really well done.

It was well, it was, it was a good execution. I asked Micah's, Changton and Dano. I asked them, I asked them what the, uh, I asked them what the cookies were because I can't, there was like a horse and carriage on it. Emma, right? I can't remember. What?

What are you talking about? These cookies. I'm trying to figure out what these cookies are. I tried Googling and I could not find them. It feels like one of those things that if I see it, I'll be like, Oh fuck. Yeah, that, but I can't remember. I think they still are probably exist.

That, I think they do, but. They were like a packaged embossed cookie, like a chestman. They had like a logo on them. No, it was just like chocolate cookies in a little cellophane package. Yeah, two chocolate chip cookies in a little cellophane package that was just the size

that was like wrapped to the cookies. So it was like a circular package. Got it. Okay. Two chocolate chip cookies. Someone will, someone will remember the name. Some, some freak out there knows this. Mitch will wake up at 4am screaming.

It's okay. Yes, wake up. Quotes. Susser comes in with his CPAP machine around his head. The, the spaghetti did make me think of, I remember my, my elementary school spaghetti would be like a little like, you know, dish of spaghetti that had a slice of American cheese.

And I don't know if they'd run over the broiler or they just put it on, they just put it on there and it would just melt on. But I have like specific nostalgia for that. And Natalie's made that a few times, like throwing some American cheese on top of a little pile of spaghetti. And it is delightful.

I like that. Yeah. The other one I think of is- God bless the cafeteria workers of America. I mean- God bless them. Yeah. That's a, that's a tough job.

Also like, I know, I know like the quality of food, because it was prison food forever, right? Is was what lunch food was, right? Yeah. I think it still is. Which also like, which, which is also like, prisoners shouldn't get served this food. Either like, like, I'm not saying like,

but kids also shouldn't be getting prison food. And the prisoners shouldn't be getting prison food, I guess. No one, no one should be getting the low quality of food. But I think that they did a pretty good job. It's, my one year in private school, it was crazy how fucking good the food was comparatively. Just like such an upgrade. Like a, there were plates, first of all,

just like plates of like a spaghetti and, and like chicken ketchatory and shit. Like just like so, so much better. Yeah. I used to sneak into the dining hall at Phillips Exeter Academy when I was in high school and we would go eat their food. That's awesome. Yeah.

I remember, like, you know, like for me, I think it's like the difference between working on, you know, like a shitty, like, like funny or die shoot, we're getting paid 50 bucks a day. And like the meal you have is like, you're sharing a Jersey Mike sandwich with somebody. And then they worked on a Dodge commercial once. And it was just like the super like high budget,

you know, like car commercials have so much money. And there was literally waiters walking around with silver trays with ceviche on them. It was like, this is fucking absurd. This is so opulent. This is so needlessly, you know, over the top. But it's like, that's, yeah, you have those feelings sometimes when you see like the, the budget version versus like the,

the one that like pushes it as far as it can go. All right. I have an answer, by the way. Yeah. I said, what were the cookies in middle school in North? This is all I wrote. And then Chankton wrote, I think Dano will know this. And then Dano responds, Peggy Lawton dog.

That's what he, that's what that was his response, calling me dog to be, to be clear. And he's a hundred percent right. They go Peggy Lawton Cookies, Peggy Lawton Cookies. Dano, Dano got it immediately, immediately got it. That guy's got a fucking steel trap. He remembers everything. Yeah.

Yeah. Good brain on Dano. Choco chip it says. Is that the one you're thinking of? Dano just said, Biggie raps about them cookies and skies the limits. Skies the limit. Beesmiths?

Look at those. Yeah. Those are the ones. Wow. Hey, yummy. The only way I'm in the, the only way I am like an elephant. Oh, his memory. Yeah.

That's what Chankton said. Dano's, Dano got the memory of an elephant. He does. I can't believe he got that just off the dome. That's, that's wild. That's amazing. Good for Dano. Love you, Dano.

Hey, let us know what, what foods you miss from your youth, from your school days. Hashtag snack to school. And if you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at doughboyspodcasts at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-463-6844. I'm swiping through Tinder trying to find Peggy Lawton

right now, by the way. To get the Doughboys double or weekly bonus episode, you can join the Goldner Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash Doughboys. Our guest today, Matt Crisman. Matt, a delight to have you on. A dream guest. It's, it's, it's been a long time coming.

We're glad we could make this happen. Please come back if you ever please to do so. Sorry, it was bad. Sorry, the energy was weird. No, I'm still a delight. It was a, it was a new experience. I would try anything you guys suggested. Love it.

Wow. Chapel Trap House has some, please come back. Please come back. Chapel Trap House has some dates on tour in October. Is that correct? Yes, we're doing a tour, big, big venue, big city tour where we're going to be performing without recording. So none of this is going to be sent out later as live podcasts.

So if you want to hear it, you got to be there. There will be forbidden rifts. There will be special guests. October 1st will be in Chicago at the Vic Theater. October 8th will be at the theater at the Ace Hotel in LA. On the 14th, we'll be at Town Hall Theater in New York City. Walk in there, eatin' sandwiches perhaps. And then, spooky, terrifying Halloween spooktacular

and Fort Lauderdale at Revolution. Wow, no place to celebrate Halloween. Checkin' that out. And check out Chapel Trap House if you're not already listening, which you probably are. And Mitch, that'll do it for this week's Dough Boys. Until next time, for the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eatin'.

Bye, Weigie. Hey, buddy, if you haven't seen on our social media, we have a new show! Dough Boys Snack Pack. And it premieres tonight, Thursday, September 22nd. Get the Spotify Live app and you can listen live and even chat with me and the Spoon Man tonight and every Thursday at 8.30 PM Eastern. Dough Boys Snack Pack. Listen live on Spotify.