Doughboys - Fresh Brothers with Chris McKay & Samantha Nisenboim

Episode Date: June 24, 2021

Chris McKay & Samantha Nisenboim (The Tomorrow War) join the 'boys to talk about Chicago and Atlanta eats before a review of SoCal chain Fresh Brothers. Plus, a founding brothers edition of Slop Quiz.Sources for this week's intro:https://theskydeck.com/chicago-facts/why-is-chicago-called-the-second-city/http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/1128.html#:~:text=Second%20City%20Theatre&text=Opened%20December%2016%2C%201959%2C%20at,Theatre%20Club%20and%20Compass%20Players.https://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/08/us/los-angeles-replaces-chicago-as-second-city.htmlhttps://www.freshbrothers.com/our-story/Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Midwest Metropolis' status as New York City's smaller sibling. The name was later famously adopted by Chicago Improv Theater, whose countless comedy star alums read like a running list of SNL cast members. By the 1980s, westward migration made it so the so-called Second City was no longer the second largest city in the US, shy town being overtaken by Tinseltown, Los Angeles. But though LA may have surpassed it in terms of population, Chicago still remains Second City when it comes to quality of pizza. After New York, of course. In 1985, Scott Goldberg opened Miller Pizza Company in the Windy City. The restaurant was beloved by locals, and in 2008, Scott and his brother, Adam, made a westward move of

their own, bringing their pie preparation skills to LA, opening a concept based around what they called Chicago-style pizza with a California twist. Sourcing higher quality ingredients that would typically be available at a chain, and offering low-carbon, gluten-free pizzas alongside an array of healthful salads, the approach found in audience with SoCal's famously diet-conscious diners. Today, with 19 locations across the south line, the name of the chain sounds like characters that might be workshopped in one of the Second City Theater's numerous stages. But the brand, in fact, refers to Adam and Scott Goldberg themselves, the eponymous siblings who brought Chicago-style pizza to LA.

This week on Doe Boys, Fresh Brothers. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger. Along with my co-host, you say tomato, he says tomato war. The Spoonman, Mike Mitchell. Yikes. That's the drop for today on a very special episode. That's the drop. Oh, well, the drop. The roast. The Mischroach, roastspoonman at gmail.com, courtesy of Stephanie. Your podcast has brought me a lot of joy during Pando, so I mostly want to say thank you for doing what you do. Love from Austin, Texas. Got any more broad sides you want to send her away, Mitch? Yeah, you can't make the pandemic cute with Pando. What the fuck is

that? Don't make the pandemic cute. No, thank you, Stephanie. I mean, I called it a drop. I'm a mess already, anyways. Good work. You're doing fine. Thank you, Wags. Mitch, we hung out last night. We did. We did. The two of us, you and me, our good friend, a future episode guest, the little tease there, and our buddy, John Gabrus, got together and we had drinks like old times. Like old times? That didn't used to hang out with you and have drinks with you. It was a new experience for me. It was, yes, it was new. But we had fun. The world was like old times. I agree. Like, yeah. We went to a place. We went to a restaurant that I should keep secret, right? And then we went to the kibbitz room next to Cantor's.

Yes, which is a famous deli here in LA and they have an adjacent and adjoining bar that's kind of kitschy and divey and fun. And we had a blast at the time of our lives. Yeah, you were really, you were throwing them back. All right. There was that, the Sutter home was an empty home. It looked like the Sutter home had been moved out of when you were done with that bottle. I gotta say this is that the guy, there was a bartender at the kibbitz room. Yes. And Gabrus was like, he's wearing a Mets hat. And he was like, he's got to be from New York. He's wearing, like he's got to be from like an area in New York that I know he's wearing a Mets hat. Yeah. If he was, if he was Yankees hat, he could be from

wherever, but a Mets hat is so like, that's, you got to be from New York. And Gabrus is like, you from New York, where you from? And he said a place and he was like, do you know it? And then Gabrus revealed his Long Island tattoo and he was like, it's right here and pointed to it on his arm. Yes. And then got us a round of free drinks. Yeah. Which I didn't even like. I think I'd rather pay and not have to experience all that. I thought it was cool as hell. It's an alpha move. It was cool as hell. Why don't you have a why don't you have a Quincy tattoo or something? My mom would be Boston. My mom would be mad. She'd scrub it off. She wouldn't like it. She really would. I think my mom would still be mad

away if I got a tattoo if she wouldn't, she wouldn't allow it. She'd spank it off of me. The classic. All right. You don't have to go on your ass. Jesus Christ. Please. I can't embarrass myself in front of today's guests. This is bad. All right. Here we go. Howdy ho. Dispunation. Look, it is too late to be added out of the movie, right? I think it is. We've, we've, we've, we've, I think so. Yeah. I figured this out. The movie's done. The movie's finished. All right. All right. Good, good, good. And Ygs, here's a little drop. Wow. Wow. An original composition. An original composition. I actually rode for two and a half years. So it's fucked up. It's wrong. Hey, Spoonman. It's Adam, the music therapist with

another song parody. And I was lucky enough to be joined by my friend Jeremy on backing vocals. Jeremy was the one who introduced me to the podcast a few years ago, and we even went to your live show together in DC. Our band part-time uncle is on Spotify. Much love, Adam. PS Fun fact, Shrek and Fiona covered the song and the DVD extras of Shrek 2 and the parody of American. What, do you, what did you say? Did you say very interesting? I said very exciting. Go on. Okay. Well, either is wrong. And extras, extras of Shrek 2 and a parody of American Idol in which Simon Cowell judges all of the Shrek characters, singing abilities, but ultimately declares, but ultimately declares himself the winner, a very weird 2004 time capsule. And then

he sent the link to it. We won't watch that link now, but we will watch it on our own time. All right. Wigs, we got to introduce our guest, but I just want to say, yes, I had the TV on. You know who I see on the TV, this little motherfucker? The fucking Noid. The Noid's back. The Noid is back. Yeah. No, I mean, this is old news at this point. The Noid's been back for a, for some time. Yeah. Well, he's back and he's causing havoc again. I just thought that it's something we haven't really talked about and it's fucked up. Here's my issue with, and you know, happy to see the Noid back in action. I feel like his disruption is a little too abstract right now. I need some more concrete pizza ruination. He's just sort of like kind of like trying to get in

the way of a delivery vehicle and like, get up to your old tricks, you know, get out an ice gun or something. Yeah. Get a pizza stamper. Yeah. No, the commercials are weird. It shows him messing with voting machines on election day 2020. Is it the Capitol on January 6th? Yeah. The Noid, the Noid storms the Capitol. Yeah. They're kind of strange. They get a zone in on this. Waving a queue flag. It's weird. All right. Let's introduce our guests. Are they here still? Okay, they're still here. They're still here. They're still hanging in there, at least for now. Very, very excited to have them both. The director and co-producer of the Tomorrow War, streaming July 2nd on Amazon Prime, Chris McKay, and Samantha Nissenboyum. What's up? Hi, Chris. Hi, Samantha.

Hey, guys. How you doing? Hi, guys. So excited to be here. We're very excited to have you. Very excited to have you. Thanks for making time for us. I'm curious because I was reading that you both have a Chicago connection. Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. We're both from the Burbs. Obviously, a big food city slash region. What are the foods that make you think a home? Pizza, hot dogs. Yeah, fucking deep dish. Yeah, deep dish. So sure. Geno's. Now, there was, who did we just talk to that was mad at deep dish again? Fucking Sam Richardson, probably. Oh, you know what? It was. He characterized it as, that's right. He goes on this bullshit, anti-deep dish. Every time he's on your show, he talks about it.

Well, look. Clearly, you know how I feel. Did we agree with him when he was on? Yes. And are we going to agree with you while you're here? Yes, of course. We like deep dish. That's what we do. It's better than the Detroit style, we'll say now that you're here. Is there a Detroit style pizza? There is. And it's happening. And who knows about it? I gotta say, the deep dish is more well known than Detroit style. Detroit also itself pretty deep. So if you want to get back at Sam, you could say, take a look at the inches here on this Detroit style. It's pretty thick itself. You know how I'm all about those inches. Yeah, be careful how you phrase that. Say it in a less weird way than I just did. But

say something like that. It's still deep. I think both are, we've had Pequods and Pequods is good. It's good. Pequods is good. I think it's undeniable. But I'm curious, because I've heard from Chicagoans that there is sometimes an opinion from someone from Chicago that this is pizza for tourists. This isn't something for locals. But this is something that you both enjoy. Yeah, deep dish. Yeah, I mean, it's different. It's a pie, obviously. It's, and I'm usually like a thin crust guy, but for some reason, yeah, it's to me, just that massive slice of pizza with the cheese. And then the Gino's anyway, they had a wheel of sausage across the bottom of it, just like a layer of

sausage. Like just for me, that's, you know, wow. That just, to me, that's like Chicago pizza. And by the way, I'm, you know, I know there's a million people that, whether it's they love, they love Uno or Due, or Lumo El Nadiz, or Giordano's, or Leona's. Yeah, I just, for me, Gino's for some reason was the thing. Maybe it's just because I went there as a kid and you hung out there and it was, you know, you could, you could draw on the wall at the restaurant, that sort of thing. Like, so it was like a experience. I think it's, I think Gino's is really, there's now, it's also one in, in, in kind of North Hollywood, like, uh, right in the back. Sherman Oaks, right?

Is it Sherman Oaks? I don't know. I haven't been there. I'm kind of anti trying deep dish out here, but it's definitely like, to me, deep dish is a special occasion pizza. It's not the kind of thing that you're ordering every Friday, but it's just like the kind of once in a while special treat. If you're in the, if you're in the mood for it, it's, it's, it's been, it's great. Yes. It's a lot of fun. And also by the way, Chris, I want to get those sausage wheels. I want to get those on my car, if possible. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. With a little spinner, with a little spinner side, pepperonis. Chris, you mentioned though, you, you do like thin crust pizza. There is good thin crust pizza in Chicago, at least in my

experience. Yeah, there's, I mean, there's, you know, Chicago is a great food town. It's a great beer town. It's great, you know, uh, yeah. I, I, there's a bunch of, you know, Rinales, there's a bunch of, uh, uh, thin crust, uh, places that are, that are really good. Um, yeah. I mean, I don't know what it is. It's like, you know, there's like a pizza. You're sure there's, there's sort of like a, a chasing the dragon of the, or whatever that first pizza that you had when you were a kid or something that you're, you know, sort of like, you know, when those first experiences you have for, so for me, like there's a lot of, uh, yeah, there's, there's some really great thin crust. Well, like Pequod's, Lumalls, they all have a thin crust version too. Yeah.

This is what Chicago people will get mad because they're like, it's not all about deep dish anyways. You know, it's not, it's not a, it's not a deep dish thing. So, you know, it has its place, but Chicago has fantastic. I went on the Chicago pizza tour Yikes. You know this. Yes. I went on the Chicago pizza tour and it was great. It was a, it was where did you go? They took us, we went to the original genos. We went to like a, a, a bunch of different places. We went to, uh, Paisanos, which is a place that Nick and I have talked about here where they, they, they actually sent us some frozen pizzas and they gave us the thin crust pizza there and it was great. And then we went to like a couple more of like the,

the big famous ones. Uh, I'm not Pequod's at the time at least, but like, uh, they tried to do this. Like there was like, they tried to take us to like a more of like a thin crust Neapolitan style. And I was like, I don't know. Yeah. Like they try to do all sorts of different pizzas, but they also hit the classics. Um, Chris, I got a question for you. Okay. You're director. Do you have any favorite and Samantha, you too, your producer seen a lot of films. Do you have any favorite food scenes in movies, dinner scenes, movie scenes, anything like that? Yeah. Um, that's a good question. Is it? I was afraid that it was terrible. Well, you always have to say it's a good question when you can't think of an answer

because it's the first, yeah, you got to buy some time. There's, so there's a question, Mike. It's complicated where, uh, Meryl Streep. Which one of them is this? It's complicated. There, uh, they start making chocolate croissants and chocolate croissants are like one of my most fucking favorite foods ever. And I just like love the idea of like cozying up to some dude and rolling some dough and folding in the chocolate and then like sensually eating it together after the fact. So that's where my head went, but I wish I had a better answer for you. Everybody says big night, right? Like that's the, that's the movie that when every, when people talk about movies that with food, they talk about big night because it's just food porn

for 90, 90 minutes and it's beautifully, beautifully photographed and you know, you know, that, that sort of thing. Yeah. It's, it's, you know, I, I, I can't think of something, you know, uh, other, other than big night, unfortunately, because that's the one movie that you just, That's the one I wanted to give you. So that's why I told you. But it's fucking complicated. Right. Because you never bring up it's complicated ever. Never ever. So yeah, these are, these are good answers though. I was going to say, you know, and, and I know you

both have a, have such a background in animation, but I always think- Wengs, I, I know what you're going to say. Um, when, when, when Stifler drinks that nut in the American pie? Yeah. That's what it, that's why, that's what I was going to say. I was going to be anybody saying, I know you have both a, both have a background in animation, but anyway, do you remember the American pie franchise of live action films? Those runchy R-rated sex comedies. I, I was going to say, I think the, like, I always think of Miyazaki when I think of, of, of, of.

Yeah. Spirited away. Yeah. Spirited away has got such, you know, beautifully, uh, the animation is beautiful. And when they go to the steam, the, the steam house, the, with all the ghosts, so like that. Yeah. That's, that's amazing. Everything looks so toothsome. That has a gross eating scene too, where they turn into pigs. Basically, right? They do. Yeah.

I will say there's a really good eating scene in the Lego Batman movie. Where, uh, yeah, he's just crunching away. I always thought that was really cute. That's great. I, I, I mean, mine was for the future theme of tomorrow war. I was going to say the pizza hut pizza and, and back to the future too, where it, where it's, where it grows very large. Yeah, instantly. Yeah. It's dehydrated and then it grows bigger.

But I also love the, uh, the scene in Goodfellas, where they're eating at, and it's, it's Scorsese's mom's place, the act, the actor, just Joe Pesci's mom in the movie. And they're, and they're eating there. And then there's the dogs that are looking both ways and the guys in the trunk. And that's a great, that's a great dinner scene. Yeah. And then stuff like that. It's just like when, when, when the movie can make you hungry, you know, that's, that to me is like the, the, the best, you know, you see somebody eating a hot dog and it's a,

you know, it's a, you know, it's, it's, it's a, you know, it's a filth, you know, it's this amazing hot dog and they're, you know, loving it. Like to me, that's like, it's just little moments like that. Like, I think that's human. Like that's the stuff that I think is, it's photographed well. And it's also like a human moment. Those are the things that I look for. Right. You know, something. Yeah. Yeah. Wagsfield's that way about, uh, the Texas chainsaw dinner.

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the first thing I think of. Chris, you're, you're a big fan of the thing, correct? The thing is my, like in my top five movies of all time, you're, you're, you're the thing fan. Big John Carpenter fan. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I love that movie so much. Carpenter rules. Yeah. Just the pace, just the pace and the, and the music, you know, it's the, it's the, it's not, it's John Carpenter helped out on the score, but that's one of the

movies that he didn't score. Morconi, it's a Morconi score. It's really, I know it's really beautiful. Just the, and just, just the, just the mood that just, it's just like, it's like a dream. It just kind of like wraps you, just kind of like slowly works on you and, and just everything about it's the way it's choreographed, the way it's edited. Everything's beautiful. I love it. One of my, and definitely in my top five movies of all time. Wagsfield, I cut you off. What were you going to say? Oh, I was going to ask about the, your time spent shooting the movie in Atlanta,

another notable food city. And we talked about this a little bit when you were on the podcast previously, Samantha, but any, any eats stand out from, from Hot Lanta. Yeah. I had to fucking eat peaches in a hotel room for one night. Oh yeah. For, yeah. That was for some shitty podcast. Pretty notable. You robbed me of eating good food that night. But certainly he weren't that busy and it was. Listen, spending time with Jen D'Angelo. I'll take it. Anytime.

But yeah, we did have really good food in Atlanta. Eight sushi lounge. There's this place called Eight Sushi Lounge, which was, which is weird to say Atlanta having amazing sushi. Yeah, it was incredible. You don't think about it as a sushi town, but like, yeah, that food was awesome. That just every, everything, all the New Geories were all great. Like, they had really just in really crazy inventive roles. And then they had green tea, cheesecake at the end of it, which, which normally that stuff is kind of garbage,

you know what I mean? But like this, it was, it was beautiful. Yeah. It was awesome. Do you have a favorite when you, when you go out for sushi, like, what are you looking for? What are your, what are your things you're always consistently choosing? There's a place that I really like in Los Angeles. It's called Take. It's across the street from, from the whiskey and next to the Viper Room. Oh yeah. Okay. And it's a mom and pop place. It's so, so it's literally the two people that, that own it are, are a couple and they are, he's the sushi sushi chef. Wow.

That's a tough one. They didn't realize that. That was, I mean, it's just bait diving a tongue twister. Sushi chef. And she, she's the host and takes the orders and um, it's, it's like you're in their house. And it's, it's like, it's, so it's, it's almost like they're just making, you know, they're making meals for you, just like what they would cook at home and, you know, it's, you know, make it home. It's really, it's a nice, it's really just, it's a really nice place, very small. Yeah. And yeah, they have a little upstairs area where you can do karaoke and things like that, but it's, it's nice.

That sounds awesome. That rules. Um, kind of a diamond, it sounds like a diamond in the rough too, because that, that area can be very obnoxious. That's that strip. Like you mentioned the viper room that, you know, it's all a bunch of rock clubs there. Yeah. Well, they have, they have a lobster roll there that's, that's, that's, that's heated and the lobster is so, it's, it's like so good and flavorful and saucy. It's like buttery. I mean, it's like really. Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't even know it's there if you're walking by. I like that spot, but that place is great. Also speak for yourself, Wags. I fit in on that part of the strip perfectly.

Yeah. That's where I first met you, right? Yeah. I was standing, standing on the roof of a car in front of the whiskey and then the top of the car caved in a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. That was my fucking car. A lot of fringe in your jacket. Yeah. Is that area is, I wonder how the, I mean, I wonder if those clubs will, it's a sad thing to think about Wags that it, because not only did that feel like that generation was kind of going away, but then after COVID, I wonder what life is like down on the, on the strip. I had a birthday party at, what is the, what's the rainbow? Maybe no, worse. I mean, like what's worse, that rainbow, right? That's actually one of the

cool spots. I feel like I had it at, um, saddle range, saddle range. Wow. Like me and the, me and like the birthday, like the first year we were out there, DDP was there. Diamond, Diamond Dallas page. Diamond Dallas page is there. I got to say, the wrestler. Wow. Yeah. Which was, that was the plus side of it all. Did he hit you with a diamond cutter? I wish that would have, that would have made my birthday. That would have ruled. Probably can fit his hands around your neck. Jesus. Also, I had heard that Sean Livingston was in there and I was like,

I got to find Sean Livingston. And then I was like, I never got to, and they were, and then someone was like, it was Ron Livingston and he was right next to you. Like you were you were going around looking for an NBA player when it was, it was character actor on Livingston. It was Ron Livingston. And he was, and they were like, he was like sitting right next to you. You fucking idiot. I never, and I never got to some, but that was my, my probably my 23rd birthday. The, uh, the saddle ranch for people who aren't in LA, it's like a, you know, it's, it's a very, it's a gimmicky sort of bar that had the mechanical bowl, like, like back when that was a novelty. That was, that's their big attraction, right?

Yeah. That's the only reason Mitch would be there. Yeah. People, people started getting on my back and I had to shoot them off. I saw, I went to saddle ranch once and I saw Ron Jeremy there. Oh boy. This is, this is the, this is the sort of things that you can, these are the sort of sites you'll see at saddle ranch. At some point it was like a, I feel like a guaranteed celebsiting of celebrities who are like, why am I here? I had that same experience, but I was walking around looking for Sean Jeremy. I felt like an idiot.

Piece of shit. Now, Chris, Samantha, I got to ask you guys, if you're in the movie theater, what are you snacking on? Now tomorrow war, it's on Amazon prime. So you're, you're watching at home. So what do you want? What do you snack for a movie at home versus what you snack in the theater? I want to hear about, I want to hear a question. Yeah. That's a really good question. I, you know, I, the stuff that I like are, I know, I know you're stalling tricks now. It's a great question, great question. No, Mckay goes ham at a movie theater.

Yeah. Well, I used to work in a movie theater. I think, uh, yeah, uh, I did, I did as well. Yeah. Are you going to tell us the, uh, legally blonde story? The, yes, I won't repeat that story where I know perfect day played over and over again and American pie too came out that summer. It was, it was, it was not great, but, but you won't repeat it. I won't, I won't repeat it, but yes, that's what happened. Chris, Chris, what did you, what, what theater chain did you work at? No, this was back in, this was back in Libertyville in, uh, in Illinois. So, uh, it's the Liberty one in two. So it's this tiny little theater.

We used to be one theater and then they split it up. Um, and, uh, yeah, I, uh, I was the usher and manager and projectionist. So I had all of the jobs. I took, I took the tickets. I sold the popcorn and then I ran upstairs and started the movie. Wow. That's kind of like Chris McKay in a nutshell. Like there you go. This was like when I was 16 years old. So I was like, yeah. Nothing's changed. Damn Lord. Yeah. That's, that's, that's, that's too, that's too much responsibility. I don't, was the, what was the, what were they doing? What, what, what was the, was the owner just sitting there? They were, you know, they had, they had a bunch, there was those local chains. So they had,

they had several theaters and drive-ins around the area. So, but I hired, I hired, I ended up hiring my friends. Uh, so a bunch of, a bunch of friends of mine, I'll work there, a bunch of hoodlum friends of mine. I'll work there. That's fun. Yeah. Hell yeah. Was, do you remember seeing any move? Do you remember seeing like a move? Do you remember a movie that came out at that time that you were like, that was a pain in the ass? Cause like I said, like a American pie, two wags was a crazy one. And then I like, I'll always remember. Everyone was bringing their own pies. Like a Rocky Horror situation. Yeah. And then the Chris Rock movie where he's like a, a germ, we remember that movie?

Oh, Osmosis Jones. Osmosis Jones. Yeah. Live action animation hybrid. I was going to say, I'll always remember that. And then I couldn't think of the name, but is, was there any, was there any movie that stood out to you, Chris, when you were working in the theaters? Uh, when I worked in the theater, uh, Ferris Bueller, Ferris Bueller. So, probably the first post credits sequence. So, so as a, as a, as a, you know, the guy who has to pick up the theater afterwards, you got to see, you know, Matthew Broderick come back out and not everyone stayed. What are you doing here? Go home. Yeah. It's over. Yeah. So that was, that was kind

of cool to, to, to. Oh man, that's one of my favorite movies. That's amazing. Yeah. That's crazy. Marvel, the Marvel universe is maybe in the, in the Ferris first, Weiger. Have you ever, have you ever, has anyone ever thought of this? Yeah. I mean, that's, that's what, if you keep watching that Ferris Bueller post credits scene, he picks up Thor's hammer. So Samuel Jackson comes out and asks him about the Avengers initiative. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, that's crazy. Cause weren't you also an extra? I was, you know, technically I was an extra in Ferris Bueller's day after. Wow. No way. How did that happen? They were filming the parade scene. And so, so, and I was a big John Hughes fan, you know,

at the time. So I wanted to go down and see, and I wanted to make movies. I knew I wanted to make movies and that's why I took the job of the movie theater and all that. That was really exciting for me. But yeah, I saw something about that they were going to film a John Hughes movie downtown and they needed extras. And so, you know, I went down there and I was in the crowd and got to watch them do, you know, the twist and shout and the duck, duck a shame and, and then, and then I snuck kind of behind the, you know, kind of where the crew was. And I, and I went up and talked to John Hughes for a little bit, told him I was that I wanted to be a filmmaker and rules. All that kind of thing. You know, he was, he was really cool. They're all ever,

ever I met, there was really cool. And then I ended up getting a later, not through this connection, but I ended up getting a job on Uncle Buck and I worked as a PA on Uncle Buck. And I, I was, I, I ended up doing the craft service for the dailies. So this is back when they did more traditional dailies, which is where the whole crew would get together after shooting all day long and some of the cast, John Candy and everybody would get together and watch this day before dailies because it's the footage from the day before. And so I got to sit there and watch them, watch the movie, watch the dailies come in and listen to them talk about, listen to the producers and the costume, you know, Marilyn, Marilyn Van Straker was the costume

designer in that movie. Ralph Bode is a cinematographer, the Lou Lombardo who edited fucking the wild bunch was the editor. So I got to listen to them talk about, talk about the movie, talk about what they were doing, talk about what they were going to do the next day. John Candy would come and hang out and, and give his opinion and stuff like that. It was really, that was a great, it was like a great education to just sit there and listen to these really smart, talented people who were in the middle of making a movie and trying to figure out, you know, the movie, get to get to listen to them talk and analyze the film. And so yeah, so it was real, I was real lucky to, to be a part of that. I mean, that movie's,

all John Candy movies, big for me when I was, when I was, when I was younger and, and another great food scene where he's, he flips pancakes with a fucking shovel. Chicago is cool like that. Like I did the same thing where I would just fucking chase movies. I would ditch class eighth and ninth period and just figure out what was shooting and go and just like try to be in it. That's, that is, that's cool as hell. John Candy was super nice too. Like he was literally one of the nicest human beings. Yeah. He was, he was a real, he was a really sweet guy and a really, like super nice to the crew and just like a really lovely human being. So yeah, it was, it was, it was, yeah, he was,

yeah, loved Chicago, always looking for bars or things to go to, to, you know, because he always wanted recommendations, a place to go and, and that kind of thing. And yeah. That rules so much. That's, that, that's one of the coolest stories ever told on the pod. Why? That's amazing. And when I was, when I was young, this is the, this is, this is my worst version is that I just got to, I auditioned for Dennis the menace. What? Yeah. And then they, they, they almost cast me as Mr. Wilson. It was close.

Between you and Wofford Mathow? It was, it came down to me and Mathow, fucking Mathow pulled it off. I auditioned for, for Dennis the menace. That's the, that's the coolest, the, that's the coolest thing I ever, I ever, not, I mean, they didn't film in Boston for a real time, but, but Chicago, you got that and blues brothers and a bunch of great movies. Was it a nationwide casting search? Yeah, it was, yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah.

So they, so they were just, it wasn't that they were like, we're going to shoot this movie in, in Boston or in, in, or in Quincy specifically. It's more like, we're just going around the country trying to find some tow headed youth, some unknown who's going to come on and be our Dennis the menace. Yes. And I think I was one of them. I think I was out of the conversation pretty quick. I think a panel opened up beneath me and I fell through the floor. Chris, what are you going to say? I'm so sorry we cut you off there.

Oh no, just, you were talking about Chicago movies and at the time when, you know, Chicago had, you know, some sort of, you know, tax incentive thing they were doing. So there's, so it was a really great time to be somebody who wanted to make movies in Chicago because, you know, especially when I was living, you know, downtown, I, you know, they were filming back draft, they were filming, you know, like, you know, like the, all the untouchables and the fugitive, all of that kind of thing. So you got to see, you know, huge filmmakers really using the city in a really, really great way. Yeah. So it was really great. And at that time I was a bouncer at nightclubs in Chicago.

And so you'd, so you would see all of the actors after, you know, like they're filming back drafting to see all the actors, you know, come by the club. And I did get to see DeNiro in his, the disguise that he wears when he goes out to nightclubs so they can blend into, blend into the crowd. So I saw him in his weird beard and I think fake nose or something, whatever he was wearing. But yeah, yeah, because, yeah, because the funny thing was like Kurt Russell wasn't in a, wasn't in a disguise. And we knew, you know, and we knew it obviously because they, you know, they, they would, I worked, they outside of the, of the, of the clubs, they would tell us like if there was somebody that had requests that they come in, so you sort of knew that somebody

was coming in and that kind of thing. Nick and I put on disguises before we go into fast food restaurants. It's more because we're embarrassed by the amount of food that we're working and we don't want, just don't want to be looked at. But, but that's so, that's, that's, that's very cool. It's amazing. I want to say that you were talking about the pacing and music in, in, in the thing. And I would say that Tomorrow War has fantastic pacing, great music. It's shot beautifully. I think people are going to love the movie. But I got to get to a point. A lot of listeners, they're just wondering, will you release a Cowan cut? Hashtag release the Cowan cut. Hashtag release the Cowan cut. And also by the Cowan cut, they mean every scene that I'm in that was cut

and also every take. They want every take of every scene. Can I tell you a story about that? Yes, please. Please. That was the original director's cut. Wow. Yeah. When the, yeah. So for 10 weeks, I just cut, 10 weeks, I just cut that together and then presented that to the studio. Yeah. Yeah, you should bring the studio. Why are there multiple, why are there multiple takes of scenes that doesn't make sense for the viewer? I'm just trying something that guys is blue, you know, they were, you know, this is still, we're still in a blue sky phase. We're trying something. Wow. If we've learned anything from social media in a few years, there'll be a

fan campaign and your original vision will see the light of day. So yeah, I hope so. Yes. The more you can get that hashtag trending, the better. Release the Cowan cut for sure. It's just, it's just 10 takes of you doing, fumbling, fumbling through my lines, different names. Dropping your gun. Yeah. Did you ever drop your gun? You didn't drop your gun. I never, you know what? I've said this. You were the only person that didn't get fucking injured. That is, this is true. I agree. It's bizarre. I warned everybody beforehand that we're gonna do a shit ton of running. I was like, guys, you know, that's why I wanted people to train at a time. You're gonna do a shit ton of running. You're gonna, you know, be ready for this, you know,

all that stuff and everybody. Oh man. And then, and then the guy who everyone thinks would blow out both knees. Yeah. The guy would be like, yeah. And you were keeping up. You were keeping up with everybody. I was keeping up. I was, you know, I wasn't the fastest in the crew. There's no one's, no one's gonna beat Edwin. No one in the world. Edwin was, yeah, Edwin was, he smoked everybody. Edwin, huh, recent guest. Yeah. But Mitch, you had your own technique though. You had like a hot dog on a stick, like in front of your field of vision. We just put a hot dog in Pratt's back. Pratt's costume and then Mitch went after that. He had to, he had to go to the infirmary because I did take, I took a chunk out of Pratt's,

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It will be in the cow and cut. Hashtag, release the cow and cut. But there was a day where we go down and then my character kind of gets scared and shoots into a ceiling, and we- A gun. It was the end of the day and the effects crew was like, just so you know, it's going to be a half an hour set up if we do this once. So they told me, you got to move the gun in a second and a half to make it look like it's shooting into the ceiling.

And then the gun guy was like, and by the way, don't cross anyone's face, because you don't want to blow anyone's face off. And I was like, dear God. Well, can I set a little bit? I'm going to interrupt here just for one second. Please, yes, yes, yes, yes. So we were in a hallway that's an elevator hallway, and it was a very close, very thin hallway. And there were 19 actors in the scene in the hallway with you. And we had the ceiling rigged with squibs to blow away the ceiling, to explode the ceiling. It wasn't done digitally.

We tried to do as much practically in the movie as possible. So we had the ceiling rigged, plus you had blanks, which were basically like- It was either a half or three-quarters stick of dynamite for every bullet. Right? And we had a hole, you had a full mag, and you're just going to let it rip into the ceiling. So you had something that would take at least a half hour to re-rig and clean up if we had to do it again. And so you had to nail, you had to nail, this was you having to nail like, you know, the Triple Lindy or something.

Wow. And why I nailed the Triple Lindy, I actually pulled it off, and people were like, I think it was the first time ever in my life where people were like, yeah, man. We also had three cameras on you, too, which was cool. We had the wide where you're doing it with, you can see the whole hallway, and you can see you lighting up the whole ceiling. And then we also had the, you know, a closer one and then kind of like, you know, a detailed one. So yeah. And then a rat, a rat also. And then we had, because we had to work with a rat right after that.

Yeah. A rat that falls out of the ceiling. This won't be, I think, I think Koalic auditioned for that role, Nick. Yeah, he's still better about it. But that was- Pretty sure he would have been better than the train rat. Yeah, the rat was no good. To be clear. The poor train rat was, he did not work well with us. Right. But still, the rat was still better than you.

Wow. The rat was more believable. I think I did all the things I had to do, and I just was looking dead, dead ahead, not saying any lines. But I rode that high. I rode that high for, I think, the rest of the movie. It was a great day. And you know what? I got footage of, someone took an iPhone video of it, so I have it. I know it's you. I wasn't trying to out you. I didn't know if you'd get in trouble.

I don't know if Amazon will come after us. Oh my God. Wow. Samantha took a video of it, so I have it. Jeff Bezos, if you're listening, I did not take any videos the whole time. I never set Mitch anything. Bezos isn't a chopper straight to Palmerston right now. He's going to grab your ass. Bring it on, Bezos.

Fresh Brothers was, I said the Fresh Brothers before we went to break, but that's not, it's just Fresh Brothers. They dropped the, like Facebook, it's cleaner. Another Sean Parker. Another Sean Parker. Scott and Adam Goldberg are the Fresh Brothers in question from Chicago. And they own a Chicago Pizzeria Miller Pizza Company. Have you heard of Miller Pizza Company out there?

No. No. Apparently is somewhat known in that area. In 2008, they moved over to Southern California, opened Fresh Brothers, and today they have 19 locations. I assumed it was in a larger region, but it's pretty much just concentrated in SoCal right now. Yeah.

Yeah, I thought they had them everywhere, but I guess it's just here. Is it, it's only, it's only Southern California. That's, that's surprising. I was surprised by that. Yeah. I thought, I thought for sure this place, at least was in other states on the West Coast, but it's still pretty regional. But I'm curious, because the two of you came to us with like,

hey, let's review Fresh Brothers. What is the reason that Fresh Brothers was something you wanted to discuss? For me, I think it was just because I do love pizza so much. And, and it's, it's something that, you know, when I, when we were in, when we were in Atlanta, we found like a, a pizza place that I fell in love with. Oh yeah. So it's a, it's a thing that, you know, true to the, to the, you know, to the point of view of the show. You know, I, this is something that I, you know, I get it, you know, I'm addicted to pizza.

So I, you know, if I, if it's bad pizza, you know, I'll eat it. If it's good pizza, I'll love it. You know, it's like, it's, it's, you know, I, I love, yeah. So I love pizza. I'm the same way. We, we, we, we talk about this too of, I love Domino's. And then when you're in the mood for Domino's, you get Domino's and I love a good pizza. I think I'm, I believe you're talking about, was it, uh, antico, uh, antico or is it antico?

It's antico? No, not antico. I know that's where we went for your birthday. Yeah. And that pizza was fucking really good, but the one he liked was like, Mellow Mushroom or something like that. Oh, Mellow Mushroom. And we would order it and have it on set for like the same time.

Yeah, we had it, we had it on set a couple of times. Yeah, that was great. Yeah. Yeah. Fun. But it's, but it's a garbage, you know, it's like, it's like, and when I say garbage pizza, it's no, it's no, it's no knock on Mellow Mushroom or any, anybody that I put on a garbage pizza, but there's, there's something about that kind of pizza.

It's just messy, you know, but it's, but it's like flavorful. It just feels a little bit more, you know, I worked at one of my other jobs, I worked at Cebaros, the only, the only, the only fast food place that I worked at was Cebaros in the mall. I worked at a mall, mall Cebaros. And so yeah, I probably developed a. Norseport, Cebaro. That was my jam. Nice.

As a eight year old. Yeah. My father in the mall. This now rivals Uncle Buck. This is also huge for us. Yes, we love, we love this news. Incredible. Yes.

It's Robert De Niro and a beard or and Cebaro and working the, you know, working the back of the, we're the dough machine. We're the giant dough machine at, at Cebaros. But we made, but we made everything. We literally made, we made the dough, we made the sauce, we made, we made everything there. Yeah. Like literally pulled the tomatoes out of the cans and, and mashed it up and, and, and all that. Like there's nothing that was pre-manufactured.

It was. That's amazing. Yeah. It was fun. It was fun. Cebaros, so good. Yeah. That's awesome.

That's, that's points to Cebaro in my book, because I assumed they were just getting everything brief, but I mean, maybe they are these days, but that's, that's amazing. That was at least authentic at the time. Well, so let me, let me ask you this as a pizza fan, actually asking, asking both of you, what's your general slice count? Like when you get yourself a pizza, how many are you, you're taken down before you tap out? Endless, endless. I mean, seriously, it was probably the one thing that I'm.

Yeah. I've seen you really. I've can put away a pizza. Yeah. Like, oh man. Yeah. When you're not looking, I'm definitely going for another slice. Right.

Yeah. No, it's an embarrassing amount of pizza. Like I could eat, you know, yeah. I could eat an entire. I think mine depends on if I'm high or not. But yeah, there's no limit. Me too, girl. Me too.

Yeah. Yeah. There's, there's no limit. Wow. Wow. Crazy potheads. I, I, I never eat, I never eat my slices high, Nick. I, I always want to clear head when I'm eating my pizza.

So Mr. Sliceway. I, I usually do, it's too much, but three or four slices, because four slices are a half a pizza. But I can, I'm, I'm a, I'm a three is good. And then if I'm being bad, I'll do a fourth slice. Three is the right amount. And I always have four. I am like, I'm, I'm good at three.

And then I'm like, oh, then I'll have another one. And then I feel, I feel sick. Sometimes honestly, five. Like that's, I'll, I'll have, I'll be good at three. And then I'll have one or two more. Yeah. I wish I could get it under control. I should start, I should try to tap out at two

and then maybe end at three. That'd be better for me, but. Well, the key is though, you have to save some for the morning. You know, you've got to have that leftover. You can't finish it clean. Otherwise you're depriving yourself from the, the leftovers. I don't like cold pizza. I'm one of the few people who don't.

It doesn't have to be cold. Yeah. And I heat it back up. Yeah. Throwing it in a pan, microwave, toaster oven. Like there's options. You're right. You're right.

It's a funny thing of in, in, in Hollywood, in the entertainment industry. Yes. You, like, like you were saying on set, we get pizza. You get pizza all the time. And when we, when I, I did this show, The Birthday Boys, and, and we would, when we were in, when we were editing, that we just always order pizza and people will get so sick of it. But I don't think I ever got sick of it.

I don't think I ever, I just don't think I ever got sick of pizza. Like even if it was three nights a week, I would always eat it. I'm with, I'm with you, Chris, where I would just, I would always eat it and always enjoy it. But I, but you just can't, like you can feel it. I can feel it slowing down my body. And that, that, that, that happened tonight because I, I ate mine about five minutes before I joined the, the call with you guys.

I just, I was just finishing my fresh brothers. Should we get into what we, should we get into what we got, Nick? Please. Go ahead, start us up, Mr. Slice. Well, I did a couple of different pizzas. I, I've had, I've had experience with fresh brothers. Nick, there was one right around the corner from the UCB theater. That's right.

Um, so they put, they, that's, that's where we ordered from. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. That's where, that's, that's, that's where I got mine from as well. Um, so right around the corner from UCB, right. I don't know how I felt when I went in there, but I was like, cool, a pizza place, but I thought it was more a place where you could go and get a slice, which

fresh brothers, isn't really that. But then when I had it, I, I remember thinking it's not bad. And I think I specifically, just the regular pizza is a little bit thicker, a little bit deeper than most, like it's like saucier and, and thicker than most pizzas. And so I had, I had experience with that. Um, and I eventually started to like their sliders. So I, so since I had experience with their, with their regular crust pizza, I got myself, uh, a deep dish.

I got the pepperoni deep dish and I got some light garlic and red onions on there. And then I also got a medium skinny cheese pizza, half sausage. And so the skinny cheese is a pizza that like they just use less dough, basically. It's, it's like a thin crust pizza, right? Got it. Did you, did you, did you not, did you not have on wags, the skinny? I didn't get one. No.

Okay. It's, it's, and so the, and the description of it online is like, it's like a crispy or crust and it's less dough. It was not my experience with the, with the skinny pizza. It was, it was, uh, it was not crackery or crispy at all. It was still soft, which was a disappointment. Half of it was like the cheese half the, the, you know, the pepperoni half, I guess the toppings probably didn't help.

The cheese half had some spots that were crispy, but not that great. And then the pepperoni half was like doughy. And that was kind of my issue with the deep dish too. It was a very doughy deep dish. The crust was super thick. Right. And it felt like, to me, do you know when you see like stuffed crust pizza and the dough is like, the crust is just gigantic because it's holding cheese?

Yes. That's what this looked like, but there was no cheese inside. It was just fucking straight dough that felt kind of undercooked. And I gotta say, I used the app to order and Nick, I'm sure you did too. And the app, the app does let you order well done. And I probably should have ordered well done because I think that both of them were a little undercooked. I got the meatball sliders for an app.

And these are really good. Have you ever had the, do you ever, do you have any experience with the sliders, Wags? I've never dained to try the sliders. Man, you're just, so you just never, you've never been, you've never done, I mean, you would just go home after UCB shows. You wouldn't do anything. Yeah, for, yes. But Fresh Brothers is something we've had with some frequency.

Like that's like the place Natalie and I will get, you know, it's a pretty decent, you know, upgrade in terms of, I feel like quality of ingredients and gets a little bit more expensive than like a Domino's or a Pizza Hut or a Papa John's. It's like the next tier above. So we'll get that, that was our go-to, that would be our go-to pizza spot with some frequency. If I'm getting pizza, I'm getting pizza. I'm usually not getting sliders. But they're fun little apps that you can add on there.

You can get two or three of them. I got two. There's meatball sliders. They have chicken parm sliders and beyond meat sliders. So you could have gotten them. I didn't see those. Yeah. Well, you fucked up big time on a big show. You fucked up big time.

Okay. Jumped down my throat because I forgot to get sliders. I think some sliders from a pizzeria. Fresh Brothers does. And that's, and that is, it's a part of the reason I think it is that, that I do like there. They kind of have fun with, with some of the stuff like you get in there. I got a Greek salad as well. There's like different things and you can really customize.

You can do what it, there's like a keto pizza. Like there's stuff for vegans that you can, there's a lot of things you can get, but was it all good? Unfortunately, not all of it was great. The sliders were probably my bite of the night. I really enjoyed, I really enjoyed the sliders. But yeah, that, that deep dish was, was, was just, it was too doughy. I got the SoCal, I got the SoCal pepperoni, which just, you know, just a pepperoni pizza.

And I put red onion and light garlic on there. And it just, it didn't do it for me. And then the salad was a bit of a let down. It just felt like, it was better than maybe like a Domino's salad or something, but it was not. Sure. It wasn't fantastic. It felt, it felt, it felt like it came from a fast food chain. Mitch, can I speak to the, can I speak to the salad real quick?

Yes. You fucked up on a big show. What the fuck? You're supposed to get, you're supposed to get the farmer's market salad. That's the good salad there. This is bullshit. The great salad, get rid of it. Get that farmer's market salad.

It's delightful. The Greek town salad, the farmer's market salad is the one to get. Farmer's market salad is great. I fucked up on a big show. I fucked up. Yeah, you did. It's okay. It's not okay with me.

This is ridiculous. Yeah, we fucked up big time. God damn it. Should I, should I finish out what I got or should I, should I say? Yes, please. Okay. I also got two diet cokes and a regular Coke because I'm just storing stuff on the dough boys' dime.

And uh. At least buy them from the grocery store. Let's have a market. No, no, no. I like that higher price point. And then finally I got myself a little dessert. I got the sweet knots. I got a three piece of the sweet knots.

Now expected these to be bad and these were surprisingly good. I like, when I was smell them, when I smelled them coming out of the bag, I was like, this fucking smells gross. It's like getting, it's getting mixed up with the meatball smell. I don't want to smell the cinnamon and the sugar with the meatball smell. But at the end of the meal, I had one and they were surprisingly good. I, I enjoyed them. But the main star of, of, of the star of the show, the pizza was a little lackluster.

I liked that skinny pie better than the deep dish. The deep dish was just too doughy. I should have gone with the clack. I should have just gone with the regular pizza. That's what I liked. I knew at one point. And uh, but, but, but the outing by these other two, bit of a thumbs down. Um, I had a much more positive experience, but I'm curious.

I want to, I want to get our guests in here. Chris and Samantha, it sounds like you ordered together. Is that correct? Well, we, we did order, we ordered twice. Wow. Oh wow. Yeah. I love it.

Wow. You know, you got to do right by the dough boys. You gotta. So we ended up ordering at the office one day for lunch. And then. We've had pizza two days in a row. Yeah. Then the next day.

We've had fresh food two days in a row. Yeah. Oh no. Or for, for dinner. Sorry. Can I say something? Yeah. You, you fucked up on a big show.

Not a big show. You know, I think fucked up here is fresh brothers. Wow. Wow. All right. Go, go. Well, let's, let's hear. All right.

All right. So I'll go through our lunch order from yesterday. So we tried the garlic knots, uh, also ordered a salad, ordered just a regular large cheese. Cause I feel like that's the thing you just have to try. So, you know, kind of where it stacks against the rest. I agree. Yes.

Ordered, uh, oh, large make your own. So I'll basically, I compared it to the version that I would get at Domino's. So again, it was like thin crust with, uh, green peppers, mushrooms and onions. I didn't know they did red onions there, which I don't love red onions on pizza. I know. That is, that is, you put red onions on salads. You don't put, you don't put it on a pizza. It does, it's, it's not, it's not great.

Yeah. And then because they do have those options, vegan, keto, cauliflower, all that shit. I was like, well, let me lean in. So I ordered, uh, some sort of cauliflower pesto situation. It's not written out on the receipt, but if you look at the menu, I'm sure you can find the one I'm talking about. Ordered the wings because again, and sorry, I keep referencing Domino's, but this was kind of like the thing I felt like it should be compared to.

The wings at Domino's suck. We all know that. So I had to get these wings a shot. Went with the sliders, wanted to try both meatball and chicken parmed. Wow. Vary it up. And then obviously, uh, oh yeah, more pizza. Skinny, skinny beyond.

That was. No, okay. Yeah. Um, another salad, a Caesar. And then we did do, um, dessert too. I mean, dessert is my favorite food group. So I had to try both desserts, the brownie and the sweet knots. Wow.

So that was just lunch yesterday. And then we ordered more. Oh my God. That's intense. All we know is it's, we order how Mitch orders. I mean, that's what we had to do. And we let everyone in the office eat it. Yeah.

Yeah. It wasn't just us. That's nice. We were ordering for a big group. And then tonight, tonight, what did we, you know better than I do. Tonight we ordered, I wanted to try some of the, I want to try a bunch of different things. So I tried, I want to try the deep dish because they say it's

like a Chicago style deep dish, but it's actually just like sort of, like, like you said, it's just like thicker. It's just thicker crust. It's not really like a pie. It's just sort of like a, you know, it's just was, was yours, it was yours extremely doughy. Was it just like a very, yeah. Yeah.

It was very doughy. It was very doughy. Um, it wasn't bad, but it was not, it's not like a deep, it's not really like a real deep dish pizza. It's just, it's just more dough, you know? Yeah. Um, but the sauce is really, the thing is like, I think what they're known for is their sauce and their sauce is really good.

Like the sauce is, you know, it's got a lot of flavor in it. And I like, but the thing I like is I like the thin crust or the super thin crust that they have. So, so we ordered a sausage thin crust ordered a, what I thought was impossible burger, but it's actually a beyond burger. Yes. Um, uh, thin crust. Do you, which, which camp do you, do you enjoy impossible or beyond better?

Are you, do you fall into either of those camps? I think impossible is better. I think so too. Yeah. Beyond just has a, there's like a, there's like a flavor slash smell to beyond, which it's not the worst thing in the world, but it is definitely not impossible. It's like a, is a great imposter for meat. Yeah, I agree.

You can make that in, you know, in your pizza and spaghetti, whatever, and make a meatball. And I think impossible, you know, plays well in there. I think, I think beyond, you know, you know what it is. And it's just, if you don't like that, if you don't like that taste or that smell, it's just not going to, it's just not the same. I mean, it's not bad. It's not the, it's not the same as sort of having, and, and, uh, we all,

oh, we also tried what they advertised as a vegan, vegan pepperoni. Yeah. That was a thin crust, vegan pepperoni, and then we did it. Then we did deep dish. I did a deep dish beyond and a deep dish, regular pepperoni. Yeah. The thin crust pepperoni, the vegan pepperoni also came with vegan cheese, which I've never really been a fan of.

Wow. Yeah. That's, that's wild. Guys, it tasted like goo. Yeah. Oh, what a bother. Yeah. That was, it was bad.

It's, it wasn't great, uh, but, uh, but the, the pepperoni that was the sort of vegan pepperoni that was in there's actually has some flavor, but it's, it's hard. It's, it's when you, when, yeah, when it feels like you've got glue in your mouth, you know, like it's, it's, it's a little bit, and then the cheese is incredible. The cheese is acts more like a dough than anything else. So it's, yeah, that, that wasn't, that wasn't great.

But the, I just want, I want to quickly say, I licked my lips when you said it tasted like goo and it was just bad timing. I was not interested in the goo. Okay. Boy. I'm not a goo guy. I didn't, I'm not interested in eating the goose pizza. I didn't like, I don't want the goo.

The, and I love the goo and I was disappointed by the goo. Yeah, that's, that's, that is, that does, and that's, you know, it's a, that sort of thing that's, that sucks too, because I'm sure this seems like a place where if you have allergies or if you're vegan, it seems like a pizza place that you can go to and then you get a goo pizza. Yeah. Well, you got to, you get the fucking goo pizza. That sucks.

Yeah. Yeah. But I got to say the, the sausage thin crust and the pepperoni thin crust were really, really good. Or the, sorry, the pepperoni deep dish as far as the pepperoni ghost was really good. Yeah, I liked that one too. What about you, Nick? Get in on this.

You, I got, I got, I got, I want to quickly say that that might be the best ordering I've ever seen on the show. Very comprehensive. Insane. Scientific, yeah. Taking all the boxes. Yeah. Wait, I'm curious, I'm curious real quick, I will get into my order, but, but what,

like, what about that deep dish was working as, as a connoisseur? Um, I think it's the sauce. I think the cheese is really, the cheese is really good. So, you know, it's a little more doughy than what I like. Cause I like this sort of the thin thing heading towards a cracker, but not exactly a cracker, but I like that. But yeah, I think the sauce was, the sauce was really good and the cheese is really good.

So kind of made up for it. You know, and the pepperoni was, pepperoni was like really kind of a little, had a, just the slightest little bit of spice to it. So it was nice. Wow. Yeah, I have, I do enjoy their pepperonis and, you know, this wasn't my order today, but the, back when I was eating meat, the Nali and I would get the char, the charcata or charcota, however you say it, but it's a, it's mozzarella.

It's got two kinds of pepperoni. It's got the charred and then also the cuppy pepperonis, which I, which I, you know, a lot of people love. And then Parmesan and ricotta. And it's, it's just like, it's just like very, it's just pure cheese and pepperoni, but it just absolutely delivers on those fronts. So that was, that was a go-to for some time. There really isn't a vegetarian equivalent of that.

I opted for the Beyond Meat pizza, which their default Beyond Meat is just mozzarella and Beyond Meat. So I plused it up a little bit. I added some, some, some jalapenos and some red onions. I agree with you. I like red onions, but in the context of a pizza. Yeah, I like them. Just don't put them on a pizza.

Just gonna be regular onions. I agree. White onions, yeah. But I got some, some red onions and jalapenos because I'm something with a heat seeker. And then I got a side of pizza sauce for Duncan. This was real good. I mean, like I agree that, that I generally give a slight edge to impossible, although I will say I've having had the new iteration of the, the Beyond Burger.

They're, they're, you know, a recent update. I feel like the, they're, they're almost there. It's like they're, the new Beyond Burger is really, really good. And I think a lot of the Beyond Meat variants, like their, their sausages and their meatballs are, are quite good. Yeah. And this sort of form is just sort of like something that's giving sort of a general meaty texture slash savory, you know, quality to it.

I thought this, this absolutely did its job. And, and it's, it's a well-executed, straightforward pizza. Just got on the default crust with a, with a default amount of cheese. We also got, and this was Natalie's pick. We got a, we got the, let me get the exact name of the special. It's not the, it's not the Miller special. The Miller special is the one with a whole bunch of meats. It's the Fresh Mama's favorite.

The Fresh Mama's favorite has a pizza. I think that's the one. Yes. So that was, it's got pesto on it. Yeah. As well as pizza sauce, spinach, mushrooms and garlic. Yeah. And that one's, that one's a go-to for us.

And it's, it's really, really good. We did get this well done on the app and we got this on the cauliflower crust. Mitch's talking about bite of the nights. This was my bite of the night. Wow. This was dynamite. And it can, the cauliflower crust pizza at, at. You don't get to have a bite of the night.

That's my thing. Okay. It's my, it's my, my chew of, today, today. But chew of the night. I was, I was going to go with like, the fuck? Chew of, chew of, you know, 2022 maybe when, next year, next year. When we get there. Yeah.

If you're listening to this episode in the future. It's, it's, it was really good and it comes tavern cut in a little squares, which is fun and works well with that, the thinner sort of cauliflower crust. It has a really, really, really tasty. I think this is one just absolutely delivered. I also got that farmer's market salad that I mentioned, which is a, which is just a dynamite salad. It's just delightful.

And it's got like, you know, let me get all the components here in front of me. It's got romaine lettuce and spring mix, broccoli, corn, green peppers, cucumbers, carrots, red onions, mushrooms, and peas. It comes with a balsamic vinaigrette by default. I opted for the vegan ranch. Their vegan ranch is really flavorful. I mean, there's no reason I have to eat the vegan ranch. I'm not vegan, but I just want to try it out.

And it works really, really well with the salad. I just think all the components are really fresh. And this one is so far above like a Domino's salad or a pizza salad. There's just like no equivalent. You could get it at one of those chain pizzas. It's, it's, it's a, it's a great salad. The, the big disappointment for me. One was that they, they did not include the sweet knots that I added at checkout

that I didn't realize until I got home. So I didn't get to try those, but the, the big disappoint was a vegan tenders, which were just, they were just so bad. The texture was, was awful. They look like breadsticks or potato wedges, which is a bad sign. They look nothing like tenders and, or tendies, if you will. And I got them the lemon, the lemon pepper rub, half lemon pepper, half.

I just, I just want to say, I just want to say, I will not. I will not. Yes. Okay. Well, some people can, some people say tendies. One person, one person says tendies. The hot, the hot sauce, did you just put enough on it? It was just like kind of drizzled on top.

Like it was just like a little bit of, you know, like they just got to, almost like they dashed Tabasco over it. They got to like, you got to like roll it in a bowl with some Frank's red hot, give it, get it fully coated. And then the lemon pepper was just so dry. It was just, it's just aggressively unpleasant. And you have to dip that in some sort of sauce, but that clashed with the lemon pepper flavor.

I saw that these were both really, really bad, even though the blue cheese and ranch sauces were, they get, they get good dipping sauces there, Mitch. That's to its credit. The, the dipping sauces are, are high quality. But overall a pretty decent outing though, outside of the, the vegan tenders, everything else from a vegetarian perspective,

I thought was, was pretty delightful. Wow. Yeah. All right. I feel like I went over what we ordered, but I didn't really put in my two cents. Please do. Yeah, let's hear it.

For me, my bite of the night, Mitch. Hey, this is mine. This is fucking. I, I loved the wings. Bullshit. I'm like a real wing snob. And I was shocked at how good the wings were that I was really amped on that big time.

And I agree with you that those sweet knots, oof, they were tasty. We got them again tonight because they were so good. And tonight they were a little bit burned. So I do wonder if it's, you know, time of day location, who knows, but when the sweet knots are good, ooh, they're tasty. Man.

You make a good point with the wings. Yeah, I wish I'd gotten them, but you, you make a good point with the wings because that's another thing I remember from when I ate meat. We'd always get wings from, from fresh brothers. And yeah, they're, they're, they're delightful. They're so, so, so good. The pizza, I don't know.

For me, if I'm going between fresh brothers and dominoes, like I'm just a dominoes thin crust girl all the way. And, and that's just where I net out. But, oh, and Mitch, the sliders, what the fuck, man? You know Michael? Wow. Oonga, Pachka. Wow.

Wow. Why do they need that Hawaiian sweet roll for the bread? It makes no sense with a meatball, with the chicken parm. Like I just wasn't feeling that combo at all whatsoever. I kind of like that sweet roll on there. I do kind of like it. And I, I love, I like those rolls in general. I will go to fucking Ralph's and just buy a four pack

and just munch, munch, munch, eat them all in a sitting. But I didn't enjoy them. And that's why, that's why it's the only reason why I ordered the sliders is because I was like, ooh, those King's rolls. And it just didn't do it for me. And I was bummed. I was bummed by that.

Wow. That's a, it seems, I honestly don't know where we're going to go with this one. It seems like it's all over the, it's, it's, scores could be all over the place. Why? Yeah. High highs, low lows.

Yeah. Well, well, hey, let's find out. So here's what's, well, yes. I'll take it first. I'm going to go, I'm going to go. People were complaining to us that we, that we, that we didn't, that I should go first, that we always, always make our guests go first.

Because first of all, people want to hear what I have to say, baby. Second of all. Second of all. I'm listening. Second of all, some guests, sometimes guests come on the show, don't know what the fuck the show is. Yeah.

I mean, are you calling me an amateur? No, I know you will know. Look at me, obviously. He's looking. No. He's looking laser like focus right at me. Like through, yeah. In fact, Samantha, would you like, how about Samantha?

No, no, no, no, no, no. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. Fuck it, take it away. Who was saying, because you say people, I feel like it was probably one guy in the subreddit and then he would set over for $40. And that's all that. Don't listen to any of the good stuff.

Just the one bad thing. Stop reading that. All right. No, you have to read it. They'll be crushed if you don't read it, you guys. What's, what's my? I think Mitch should give his review before the guests. I think it's unfair to the guests to make them review first.

Sometimes they don't know the show. Shut up. I wish Cowan was stronger in the movie. Shut up. There's going to be, we'll hear some of that too. All right, here we go. Here we go. Sorry, also apologies to both of you for all the Doughboys,

Twitter people commenting on every single. No, I love it. I love all the likes. I wish Cowan had a bigger head in the movie. I'm going to eat the Cinerama, the Cinerama camera. Yeah. I had to move you around blocking wise all the time. You can see fucking Pratt finds your head.

Okay. All right. Here we go. Well, I actually say that the dipping sauce is a good at fresh brothers, but I wouldn't know because my marinara dipping sauce, it didn't come with my slider. So I couldn't dip them in. I couldn't dip my sliders in there.

I think that fresh brothers is not bad. I think it's like, I've been in the mood for fresh brothers. I've gotten it out here in LA. Now, does LA have the best pizza? No, but you can find really good pizza. You know, I'm not saying that the whole town has bad pizza. You can find good pizza. And for fresh brothers to make it into any sort of rotation,

even if it's every, you know, six months or whatever, or, you know, like if it still gets in there, that means that I like it. I enjoy it in some way. But guess what? They fucked up on a big show. They fucked up, yikes. It was my pizza. The star of the show was just not great.

And I'm starting to wonder whether, you know, I'm starting to wonder whether, you know, fresh brothers means like fresh ingredients, or it means like fresh, like how my mom calls like, Wally fresh, you know what I'm saying? Oh, not like funky fresh, like cool, but like fresh, like you got a fresh mouth. Yes, fresh like that. Don't get fresh with me, young man. Yes, exactly.

That's my mom talking to Wally. And, uh, because, Michael Wally's getting fresh in here. Michael Wally keeps peeking. You know, my cats were, uh, what was my word that you're Ungepochka mission? Oh, Mischpoche. Mischpoche. You remember it. Wow.

Mischpoche. You didn't remember it, I see. I mean, Samantha, yeah, Samantha saved me. Well, I meant, is Samantha remembered it? I feel like, I feel like fresh brothers is Mischpoche. I feel like they have a good family thing. I feel like they try to offer a lot of good things, a lot of different things, vegan food.

I looked at that vegan pizza, by the way, and the cheese did not look melted. It looked kind of horrendous. So I, so the goo pizza looks bad. And I think that they try to offer stuff that you don't get at other fast food and chain restaurants. They have these options available, which I think is a great thing. And Chris, I agree with you.

I think that the sauce is good. I think the ingredients will taste good. I really just got, I feel like a bad bake on my two pizzas, but it was both pizzas and two different styles. And I do like that regular pizza a lot. It's different for around here. And some stuff, like we were saying, we had high highs, and then we had low lows, but the lows were lower for me.

And I hate to take it out of the Golden Play Club, right with the first review. But I think I got to go, just from past experiences, I'll give it 3.5 forks. I think it's a, it's a C, it's gets a C. Wow. A solid C though. A solid C.

Sure. By the way, if anyone who, any users of the Doughboys subreddit, if you didn't like Mitch going first, to make sure to comment, we'll change it right back. As soon as he sees the comment. Excuse me while I log in to the subreddit here. Samantha, your final thoughts, your fork score on Fresh Brothers based on this experience.

All right. Well, listen, I knew Fresh Brothers because they, they put in a location close to the Warner Brothers lot. So that was my first time having Fresh Brothers was when there was some guy standing out there giving away free samples of pizza. And I will consider myself a sample whore. I love samples.

I will go for it any fucking time. And I sampled that pizza. This has to be years ago and I loved it. So I was really excited to try it because I ended up never even trying Fresh Brothers. And I really wanted to like it for Chris because I just felt like this could be something that bonded us, you know.

Right. You know, for the next movie. It didn't go that way for me guys. No. Oh boy. I loved the sweet knots. The sweet knots really took it home. And the pizza tonight actually I liked better than,

than yesterday's and the wings too. Like if I'm just ordering a five piece of wings, I would see Fresh Brothers again for that. But for me, I'm going to go two, four, three times. Wow. Just under, under three, under three. But that's, that's where I net out. Wow.

See, coming into this, I thought this could be a four forker. I thought so too. Yeah. And I got to say, Nick, the app is good. And I think a thing, maybe you get an order more well done because that, for me at least, that's my experience. Maybe the more well done option is what you got to click on there.

But Chris, let's hear, Chris McKay, let's hear your final thoughts on Fresh Brothers. If you can't get to an airport to find a Cinnabon, the, the, you know, the knots are really amazing. The knots are really good. They're really, really good. I'm sorry that they didn't come for you and I'll give you the extras.

Yeah, that sucks. Sorry, Wags. Yeah, it's a bummer. There's something funny about this place because I do think, you know, we all had weird ordering experiences. Which I think is kind of, which is kind of, I think they're brand a little bit. Yeah.

Like sometimes it's a really. They got fresh with us. Yeah, they got the, they got fresh. It's a roll of the dice. We're going to get a little, we might get a little fresh. I think, but I think there's something about that because I think, I think there's sometimes where they nail it and this other times where it's just like,

there's things missing, things are fucked up. Right. Yeah. I do, I do like doing the dipping sauce. Like I like getting the pizza and then having extra sauce to dip the pizza into. So, so, you know, like, we didn't do that this time for some reason, but, but yeah, but generally I like doing that

because it's just like something, the sauce is really good. Yeah. And I like trying, you know, like trying to, you know, trying different things, you know, like trying, you know, the, you know, just, you know, even though the vegan pepperoni was kind of bad, it was still like, it was just still worth trying. But yeah, I guess for me, I'm, you know, because I'm a, I'm, I'm a, I'm a sucker. I'm going to give it four forks.

Wow. Fourks. Yeah. Like very good score. I'm going to give it four forks. It was, it was fun. Yeah. Four forks from Chris McKay.

That's where I thought before the start, I really did, I thought this would be a golden plater. And I, and I had, I had a bad outing. I definitely had a bad outing. What's the opposite of a golden plater? Is there a name for that? We don't have one. And that's huge.

Yeah. We don't have one. Oh my gosh. We don't have like the broken plate club. Yeah. The broken plate club. I like that. Wow.

I mean, I think it works. Does it have to be, what, like a score of like two and below or? Yeah. I think, I think it has, I think like, that has to be like the gutter. That has to be like one fourth. I think one point five. One point one and a half or below. Yeah, less than two.

Yeah. That's good. The average has to be, yeah, less than two. I like that. Yes. Broken, broken plate club. Wow. Chris, you've given us a whole new.

Yeah. This is huge. This is breaking shoes, you guys. Chris, you've given us a, you've given us a new t-shirt. This is great. The broken plate club. We can now pay Mitch less money for the sequel of the tomorrow war because he's making more money off the merch he just gave him the idea for.

I have a bad deal with a merch. Weigher makes 90% of merch money. Yeah. That was, I went with the, I went with the, I get 90% of Doughboy's action figures and we just haven't, we haven't made anything yet. Oh yeah. It's just you guys mid-bite. The Weigher fleshlight.

Yeah. Oh boy. The issue is they, they were going to make, we're going to make action figures. They just can't find enough plastic to, for the two of us. Um, so I, I am, I, I agree with points all around. I mean, this, this place is kind of all over the map as our assessments have landed. Here's what I was going to say. And Mitch, I agree with you.

The app is not crap. I brought up the app because I wanted to just speak to how many options there are. And perhaps this sort of, this also ties into Chris's point of why there are always so many kitchen miscues is because the, the options are just so complicated. It's so, it's probably easy to get lost if you're working there. But so you can, if you make a pizza, a pizza, just any pizza can be skinny, original, cauliflower or gluten free. Those are your options.

Cauliflower is not the only gluten free option. They're also, they also have a deep dish that you can choose separately. They also have a keto crust, which is distinct from the gluten free and the cauliflower. So like it's, you know, we have six or seven crust options right out of the gate. There's so many ways to customize these things. And that's good because it accommodates a bunch of different diets. You know, if you are gluten free, if you are vegan, if you are vegetarian, you can find something to eat at fresh brothers.

Some of those things aren't particularly toothsome. I mean, the, at the vegan tenders, I thought were, were genuinely awful. But the cauliflower crust pizza, they're the, the beyond pizza I thought were good. And I appreciate that even on the dessert side, although I did not get them, the sweet knots are vegan and the brownie is gluten free and vegan. I appreciate that they're making all these steps. They're taking all these steps to accommodate a range of nutritional needs for that reason. And because I just like, I just like it.

I just think it tastes good for the most part. I'm going four forks as well. Wow. I knew it. Yeah. Wow. So there you go. Good outing.

Honestly. Good outing. I, I thought I was, I thought I was going to be lowest. Samantha, you, you, you went under me, but I, I think the outing, my outing was bad, but I do think that it's a place that could maybe make its way into the four, the golden play club, the four, four. We'll see. We'll see.

I do, I do really think it's hitter. I mean, even just between the two, two days apart, you know what I mean? Like we just had different experiences. So. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it depends on which, which of the fresh brothers is working in the kitchen on a given day. One is, one is like fresh.

And then one is like, and then one is like, has the fresh ingredients. I agree with you. Hey, that was our review of fresh brothers. We'll take a break. We'll be back with more dough boys. Hey, you. You craving fresh, delicious, easy meals, try wild grain and get their bake from frozen sourdough breads, fresh pastas and artisanal pastries delivered right to your door.

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Mitch, it's another edition of Slop Quiz. Wow. Compiled by the by the Drop King, Robert Persinger, our associate producer. This is Founding Brothers Edition. Wow. As I mentioned, Fresh Brothers was in fact founded by two brothers. And that's true of a number of chains.

A number of chains have been co-founded by two or more male siblings. So here's what I'm going to give a description of a chain. And buzz in with your name and guess what the chain is. You get one point for guessing it correctly and a bonus point if you can name the brothers, which you will not be able to do. You get 100 bonus points if you name the brothers. Wow. Okay.

Because this is impossible. But the main thrust of the game is I'll give a description of a chain founded by brothers and then you buzz in with your name. Are the rules understood? Yes. Yeah. Yes. Okay, great.

All right. Here we go. It'll be hard. Here's the first one. This quintet of brothers currently runs a national fast casual burger chain that gives you plenty of extra fries. Samantha. I heard Mitch first.

I heard Samantha first. It's definitely Mitch first. It was Mitch. It's five guys, Wags. Yeah, it is. Mitch, you are correct. Five guys, the brothers Jim, Matt, Chad, Ben, and Tyler, Morrell. Wow, that's like the Goodwill hunting brothers.

Casey. All right, Mitch has one point. Next question. These World War II veteran brothers opened a sandwich restaurant in 1964 and originally wanted to call it... Mitch. Potbellies? Not potbellies.

Fuck. Can you please finish the clue? Yeah. Opened a sandwich restaurant in 1964 and originally wanted to call it Big Tex. 1964 sandwich restaurant, Big Tex. Chris. Go ahead, Chris. Is it Arby's?

You are correct. Wow, Arby's. My gosh, R&B. R&B founded for the Raffle Brothers, Forrest and Leroy Raffle. I was going to guess the Menendez Brothers. Did they form a restaurant? There was some reason there in the news, right? Did that somebody do the restaurant?

No. That Larry Fong app paid off, guys. The Menendez Brothers are the moves because I think a lot of the younger generation finds their horny for them. Did you know this? Dude, these guys are bae. The Menendez Brothers are bae, you know. All right, next up.

These entrepreneur brothers founded a fast food chain that now has over 38,000 locations around the world. Not a lot of info on this one, say it again. These entrepreneur brothers founded a fast food chain that now has over 38,000 locations around the world. Big clues there, 38,000 locations around the world. 38,000 locations are around the world. It's not Planet Hollywood.

What kind of food? Brothers. I'll give a hint. This is a burger chain. Chris. Go ahead, Chris. Is it Burger King? It is not Burger King.

Good guess. 38,000. Can I guess? Yeah, I'm again. What the hell? Is it McDonald's? No. Emma, you are correct.

It is McDonald's. It is McDonald's? The original McDonald's is owned by brothers. And then that's Burger King. 38,000, right, right, right. It's McDonald's. Oh, wow. Yeah, man.

I felt like I thought 38,000 was too little. Me too, me too. Oh, I thought that was like super high. No, it's a lot. There's way more than 38,000 McDonald's, isn't there? Listen, don't question the drop king. That's a lot of locations. The crop.

One thing we know, the drop king has his teas crossed. I'll double check that number for you, Mitch, while you guys finish. Okay. That 38,000 is a lot. I guess you're right. I thought there was just more. That's a lot of locations.

I just thought there were more. All right. Well, Emma, do you want that point for yourself? Well, yeah, I'm going to get a point. There's one point. Okay, I want the point. And it is 38,000 locations. There's 1,165 in California alone.

I mean, that's... Yeah, I think there's like a little over 13,000 in the U.S. alone. Yeah. California is huge. And a lot of these locations are concentrated in the U.S. All right. Look, it should have been McDonald's.

It's actually 39,000. If you said that, I would have gotten it right. But anyways... Okay, yeah, you're right. 39,198. But it crested to that threshold while we were recording. Yeah. I feel like a fool.

That really... That really... That I really thought it was more. I just didn't think of it in my head. All right, go ahead. Next one. All right, next one. These brothers opened their shop in 1994

and named it in honor of their firefighter father. Smith. Yes. Firehouse Subs. Wow. Oh, you are so correct. Everyone is on the board now. All nodded up in one piece with a few more questions here.

Wow. Here we go. These franchise operator brothers inadvertently aided Dr. Evil via their Burbank-based mascot. Mitch. Oh, Smith. Oh, okay, Mitch. Bob's Big Boy.

You are correct. Fred, Lewis, and John Elias. You didn't even let me guess? You weren't going to get the Elias brothers? Come on. I was going to guess Josh and Kubert. Guys, I tried to go to Bob's Big Boy on Sunday for lunch and there was a 35-minute wait.

Wow. Bob's Big Boy is back. That's right. He's back. Well, he never lets, sir. Yes. By the way, Chris and Robin Sorenson were the founders, the co-founders of Firehouse Subs.

Okay, Mitch is in the lead with two. Everyone else has one point. You got my Josh and Kubert reference, right? Yeah, I liked it. All right, good. We've got two clues left. Josh Gad fucked Kubert in the movie. What was the pixels in the movie, Pixels?

In Pixels, yes, yeah. He fucks Kubert and has Kubert babies. All right, go ahead. I'm so glad we now all get the reference. Okay, here we go. These Michigan brothers borrowed $600 from their mom to open what would become one of the largest pizza chains on the planet.

Mitch. Yes, Mitch. Oh, shit. I know it's one of the two. Pizza Hut. Mitch, you are correct. Wow. Pizza Hut is right.

I knew it was the Pizza Hut carny. Because Domino's is also, but I think it was just the one guy with Domino's, but they're both Michigan. Yeah, the carny brothers. All right. All right, Mitch is going to win this one, but everyone else can play for the silver. Here we go.

Final clue. These brothers fed hungry workers and truck drivers in Pittsburgh during the Great Depression. Hmm. Hungry workers and truck drivers in Pittsburgh during the Great Depression. Hmm. I should know this.

Steel City. Mitch. Steelburger? No, it's not Steelburger. Oh, man. Is it a hamburger place? Or is it a... Is it a...

We can't say. Kind of. Chris. Go like Chris. Is it hardies? Not hardies. Oh. That's a good guess.

Great guess. Oh, is it Carl... Sorry, Chris again? Yes. Carl's Jr.? Not Carl's Jr., founded by Carl Karcher. Well, I'll tell you something. I'm not going to buzz in, so you can just give us the answer.

Emma, do you know? No idea. Emma does not know. And this one's tough, but if you know the Pittsburgh area change, you might think of Promanti Brothers. Oh, Promanti Brothers. Oh, I don't know. I don't think of that as a chain, but they have a couple locations.

They do, apparently, in Pittsburgh. But good on them. Good on them. And hey, good on Joe, Dick, and Stanley Promanti for building a business and feeding Hungry workers on the way to success. Hey, that was our segment, Slop Quiz Founding Brothers edition. That is a very funny names of brothers. That is...

When was that? It was during the Great Depression? That's like a... Yeah, that's a 19-20s. Tom Dick and Larry. Tom Dick and Larry. Yeah, it makes... Joe Dick and Stanley.

Yeah. Classic names. Not a lot of Stanleys anymore. No. Not enough dicks. Just like a restaurant about your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. And today we have an email from Cindy.

Cindy writes, I love pairing food with the shoe... I love pairing food with the shows or movies I'm watching. For example, eating burgers while watching Bob's Burgers or how you guys ate Snyder's pretzels while watching the Snyder Cut. The Pixar movie Soul had me craving pizza. So without any spoilers, what type of food would you recommend for takeout while watching the Tomorrow War? Wow, what a great question.

What a great question. That's a really great question. It's a really great question. I would say... Such a good question. Yeah, that's a good question. That's a good question. Absolutely, that's a good question.

If you have... A question. Nick, what do you think of the question? You think it's good? I think it's good. It's a really good question. Cindy, great job. Some of the best thing in.

I'd say if you have a hookup to get in touch with Mrs. Mitchell, I would say a tuna sandwich would be something... That you could eat watching the Tomorrow War. You know, some white fish with your white spikes. That makes sense. I was actually referencing a joke in the beginning, in the opening scene. Oh, tuna, yeah. Tuna Santa, the tuna Santa.

Yes. There you go. It's a beautiful looking. I mean, that is a great answer. I've seen the movie, so I have my answer wigs. I got myself a big cheese pizza in some buffalo fingers and in some Coca-Cola's. I did the classic thing with my mom and sister and it was delightful.

It was one of the best nights, one of the best movie experiences I've ever had. It was great. Oh, how fun. Chris, the director of the film, I mean, I guess you're the final authority on what should be paired from a standpoint. Yeah, I mean, look, this is not going to be enjoyable, but it is a reference to the movie and it would be Vegetable Azanya.

Wow. Cute. So. That's nice. That's nice. Well, you'll like the movie and you maybe won't like the meal that much, but you're going to enjoy the movie at least. Yeah, well, the meals set in the bar are low, so the movie can go high.

Yeah. It's four forks for the movie. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at dowboyspodcasts at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-463-6844. And to get the Dowboys double or weekly bonus episode, you can join the Golden North Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash dowboys. Now, Nick, I just want to quickly say, well, I'll go ahead.

What else can you do? What else you can do? You can check out the Tomorrow War, July 2nd on Amazon Prime, Chris McKay, Samantha Nissenboye, I'm our guest. Anything you'd like to finish your thought and then we'll hear about the movie. I was just going to say that I wanted to thank you both for the life-changing opportunity to be in the movie. I'm not trying to get emotional here, but Wags was with me. I auditioned for it the day we were recording, and it was a very exciting day for all of us.

And I'll never forget it. I think the movie's really great, and so thank you both. I will say it was also life-changing for me, Mitch, and I don't want to get emotional either, but I'm a huge fan of this pod, and I fucking love you guys. And when McKay said yes to putting you on tape, that was awesome. And then the fact that we got to work with you was incredible. So life changing all around. Wow, I appreciate it. There was a situation where you guys had faith in me to move to a different part in the movie, and I really can't thank you enough. It was really awesome. Yeah, I'll remember it forever. And the movie's great. The movie rules. My mom and sister and I

watched it, and it was super special. I can't wait for the rest of the world to see it. I've now seen it, and it's so, so fun. Why you're seeing it? Amazon marketing team hooked them up. Yeah, and Bezos personally screened it for me. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, I heard he's paying you a ton to do the tomorrow war month. Yes, yeah. Chris, sorry, you're about to say something. Oh, I think we dodged a bullet when we, not to go into too many details, but Mike did us a favor

by jumping into another role. So that's all I'll say. I was gonna have Mike, what's your favorite part? Did you have a favorite part of the process making the movie? Oh man. Did you like gun training? Did you enjoy the boot camp? The first day I did not like it all. And I was saying this to wise that like there were, we trained with a lot of like, you know, there's a lot of different people, and there were people who were like much older than me. And I said this on another episode, but I was like, please don't pass out before like people who are in their 70s do. This will look really bad. You're a 30-something year old man, don't pass out. But the rooftop scene was so much fun, and I had never seen anything like that in a movie. But I don't want to give it too

much away, but there's a scene, and we're on some stairs, and there's some fun stuff with some stairs. That's all I want to say. That's some good. That's some good, Mike Mitchell. Yeah, I'll say some goo is involved. So a little teaser. Yeah, you tune in July 2nd to see how much goo I emit in the movie. You're great in it, Mitch. And the movie came out great. So congratulations to all of you, and I hope everyone listened to this podcast, checks it out July 2nd on Amazon Prime. Anything else you would like to promote? I'll promote my previous episodes of The Dobies. I think you should all be Golden and Platinum

Plate Club members so you can get access to those very special apps, because it's some of my best work. And we'll have you back to review some more peaches real soon. So look forward to that. All right. Chris, you have to come for that, too, where it's... Yes, yeah. Okay. To your contract. Awesome. I love it. Hey, that'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys. Until next time, for Mr. Slice, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating. See ya.