Doughboys - Handel's with Aniz Adam Ansari

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Aniz Adam Ansari (@thecarolinagentleman, Loot) joins the 'boys to talk finding a stray kitten at Headgum, North Carolina chains, and arena food before a review of Handel's Homemade Ice Cream. Plus, a Shaq-sized snack or wack.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/28/us/politics/james-a-traficant-jr-who-was-expelled-from-congress-after-bribery-conviction-dies-at-73.htmlhttps://newrepublic.com/article/68976/jim-traficants-hair-and-characterhttps://newrepublic.com/article/68973/crimetown-usahttps://www.wosu.org/politics-government/2023-12-01/ohios-james-traficant-was-last-u-s-house-member-expelled-from-congress-prior-to-george-santoshttps://www.wkbn.com/marketplace/the-unstoppable-handels-homemade-ice-cream/https://handelsicecream.com/history/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. Want to watch this episode? Check it out on our YouTube channel by going to youtube.com slash doughboysmedia. In the 235-year history of the U.S. Congress, only six members have been expelled from the House of Representatives. It speaks to the extremely high bar for corruption in a famously corrupt body. But among the most infamous and brazen of this sinister six

is James Trafickant, a Democrat who represented an Ohio district that included his hometown of Youngstown. Known for his grandstanding and connovaresque bouffant, revealed to be a toupee in a prison mugshot, Trafickant's 2001 arrest for bribery and racketeering surprised few. It was consistent both with his character and his city, a city described by the Wager author David Grant as Criamtown, USA for its cozy partnership with the mafia.

But the mobbed up Midwest Metro of Youngstown is also home to a wholesome slice of Americana, an ice cream parlor founded in 1945 by a woman who made frozen dairy desserts made with hand-picked fruit. The founder, a married woman named Alice, originally sold the sweet treats out of her husband's gas station, and it wasn't long before cream was a bigger business than crude. The parlor became its own business, and today has over 125 franchises in over a dozen states.

Traffigan died in 2014 after serving a nearly decade-long prison sentence, and his bald corruption has been surpassed by another recently expelled member of Congress, disgraced New York fraudster and cameo star George Santos. But Alice's acclaimed eponymous ice cream parlor still stands, the original location by some accounts the busiest parlor in America. And perhaps Youngstown should be renamed from Crime Town to Cream Town. This week on Doughboys,! Double Hot Doughnut Boy! Double Hot Doughnut Boy! Double Hot Doughnut Boy!

Welcome to Doughboy's the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, the nicest person in comedy, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. What the hell? It's a Toast Spoon Man! Wow! From Sean D. from the dough score at RoastedBirdFuck.com. I thought I'd do a Toast Spoon Man

because Mitch, you may not know this, it's Mitch Appreciation Day. Woo! Did you guys know about this? Kind of. My girl said it casually in an email and I just didn't ask questions. It's Mitch Appreciation Day here

in the Dough Boys podcast. Was I CC'd on the email? You were not. It would be funny if I was CC'd on the email because I probably still would not have seen it. You definitely would not have. Wow. We're not roasting you today. We're going to be nice to you. This is, and this is partly due to our guests,

largely due to our guests. Well guess what? I appreciate it. Of course. Love you buddy. It's Mitch Appreciation Day here on the Doughboys podcast. Wow. Wigz. Yeah. Now I feel bad making fun of you.

How are ya? Oh no, it's fine. That's fair game. It's not Wiger Appreciation Day. Have you seen Mufasa yet? I have not seen Mufasa. I was trying to see if there was a Mufasa Happy Meal and there wasn't.

Still a Trapper Keeper ass movie, as they say. I think it was, I forgot who said that to me. It was Mookie or Kalpa. Somebody was like, it's a Trapper Keeper cover fucking movie. I would see Mufasa, but I find those movies aesthetically repulsive. Because the original, the original 2D animation

is so lush and gorgeous. The original Viking's so good, and then the old one was on TV the other night. I was like, this fucking sucks. It's bad. It was really, it is bad. Yeah. Why are you just doing this like?

Why are you doing it again? Look, people got paid and people made money. That's nice. That's what we like. We like. We like that. We like celebrities making money. We like all the celebrities that made money.

God bless them. Look, it's wild times right now. It's wild times and it's Mitch appreciation day here on the Doughboys podcast. Wow. Wags, I love it. Yeah. You get a drop for us, Mitch. Am I hitting with a drop?

Oops. All segments. Oops. All segments. Look, they got lazy and they used old segments. It's all new segments, yeah. It's all new segments. It's all new segments.

It's all new segments. It's all new segments. It's all new segments. It's all new segments. It's all new segments. It's all new segments. It's all all segments. Oops, all segments. Ugh, they got lazy and they used old segments. It's all new segments, you're fucking idiots. Do people not understand the concept of this? Duh, I had a stupid fit my butt, my mouth.

We appreciate your support. Thank you for the privilege of letting us do this podcast. Is it my blood, my mouth? Duh! We appreciate your support. Thank you for the privilege of letting us do this podcast. What a groove there. That was from the drop-off, wasn't it? Was that a residual drop-off entry? I don't recognize it. I think so.

I never heard that before. Well, someone used you saying, Someone used that sample, yeah. Hello, this is my first attempt at making a drop. I hope it's okay. Wow. Okay, so maybe not. I refuse to force anyone else I know to listen to it.

Certainly not my beautiful wife, so I have no idea. I love this dumb ass podcast. Sometimes I don't feel so bad. I waste so much money each month on Patreon. So much money. Oh, I mean, it's five bucks a month. It's not like it's cheap. Yeah, eight bucks in the platinum play club tier.

But also like you were saying so much money, maybe there are other Patreons this person is subscribed to. No, it seems like he was complaining about ours. Seems like directly micro-targeted us. Enu is a- Thanks Enu. Yeah, it seems like he was complaining about ours. Seems like directly micro-targeted us. Enu is a- Thanks Enu. Yeah, Enu. Thanks for supporting the podcast.

And hey, thanks for a great drop. Thank you for supporting the podcast. Drops at briffuck.com. Yeah. Oh, nevermind. I thought that the dropper had a name of a quarterback, but I was actually, I was wrong. He does not have the name of a quarterback. You were hoping that like Patrick Mahomes is sending a drop. They had, the name of a quarterback, but I was actually, I was wrong. He does not have the name of a quarterback.

You were hoping that like Patrick the Homes is sending a drop. They had the name of top was, anyways. Jeff Gannon blast from the past, who was it? They said they went by Enu. So they went by Enu, okay, we didn't dox their real name. I'm not gonna dox their real name. Yeah.

Trent Dilfer. Dilfer was that was your grab? I stopped watching the NFL at a certain point, so all my knowledge is back in like the Jeff Ostaphara. I like the Dilfer poll. I just remember in college, like seeing a hunk guy who was like such a dud. I hate hunks, hunks suck.

I love hunks. You know what's fun? It's a chunk. Throw the hunk in a chunk. Sometimes chunky can be hunky, Mitch. In your exhibit A, here on Mitch Appreciation Day. Wow, thank you, Wags. You know what? Your example B, you better fuck with me. Our guest today from Loot Master of None in the Four Seasons, Mitch.

He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy.

He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. You know what, your example B, you better fuck with me. Our guest today from Loot Master of None

in the forthcoming film Good Fortune, Aniz Adhman-Sari is here. Wow, Triple A. What's up, guys? How's it going, buddy? You know, guys, I don't like doing stuff like this. No. No, no, I kind of just do my work.

I'm in the streets. I'm working. I'm in the trenches, but I didn't really have anything to do today. And the studio is fairly close to where I live. Yeah. And I want to give Mitch his flowers because it's Mitch Appreciation Day. And I think a lot of this comes from you,

which is, which I appreciate. I was trying to Dap you. Oh, my bad, dog. I will say, you say a man in the streets. That is true. I do often see you around. Yeah. I'm out here.

I think my first real interaction with you, well, besides knowing your brother and working with your brother at some point and seeing you through that, but for me, and I think for you, Wags, the first time we actually spent some good quality time was at PwG. In the wrestling shows. Yeah, yeah.

Down in the Valley. Down in the Valley, Recita, California. PwG was definitely, I feel like, a large part of our initial interactions. Yeah, yeah. Great shows. Great shows. We'd be hanging out in that parking lot,

two, three hours. Love the Recita venue, which is no longer in the American Legion Hall. Great times. Great venue back there. I, in Great McDonald's over there, too, by the way. They did have a really good McDonald's. Great McDonald's. Great venue back there. I, in Great McDonald's up there too, by the way. They did have a really good McDonald's.

Great McDonald's. Really good McDonald's. Good Taco Bell, decent IHOP. I never hit up the IHOP. Denny's, Korean barbecue around the corner, I went to a couple of times with the wrestlers, good days. I knew you before that, but that's where we really got to hang out

and know each other more so. And where Matt Riddle saw me and went, IFC! IFC! That's what it was. Which was a great moment for me. Hey, hey, RIP IFC. Is it dead? Is the channel gone?

You know what? I think it's still there, but I think it's morally bankrupt. I think they just play. Yeah, after they pulled the birthday boys off? Yeah, they pulled the birthday boys off, and I think they just play reruns of Young Sheldon. So you're watching? Yeah, I'm going to film there. Do you know the thing with Weiger, that Young Sheldon. You're watching? Yeah, I'm off going there.

You know the thing with Weiger that young Sheldon wasn't young enough? We've talked about this on the podcast before. Well, it probably got exponentially worse for you then. He's actually, he's watching the show from the finale backwards. Have you watched young Sheldon's brother and wife? Wait, there is a young Sheldon brother and wife show? That's the new one. Yeah. Yeah. It's about young Sheldon's brother and wife? Wait, there is a Young Sheldon brother and wife show? That's the new one.

Yeah, yeah, it's about Young Sheldon's brother and wife. Like hanging out as kids? No, no, his brother's a little older and they get married. They're like a young married couple. So they're like a young couple, but it's like still a period piece. Still a single cam? No, no, no.

Yeah, it is single cam. Okay, interesting. Shout out to Young Sheldon and the whole crew, Bazinga. Yo, yo, yo, Mitch. Mitch, let me get a Bazinga. Bazinga, wise. Mitch appreciation day. Bazinga buddy. Bazinga buddies, that's a good, that's a good spin-off show.

Bazinga buddies is a good idea. Also could be a recap pod of Young Sheldon. Yeah, post show. Post show. With Weiger, Mitch, and Chris Hardwick, the Zynga buddies. I love it. Wait, there's something else we have to talk about. We're in the recent aftermath of the Headgum Holiday Party.

Yes, Hunk Fest. Hunk Fest 2024. And while that was going on, a cat was found. I don't know this full story. So maybe, Mitch, if you wanna drive this, Amelia, you wanna drive this, but this kind of dominated your experience of the party. a cat was found. I don't know this full story. So maybe, I don't know, Mitch, if you wanna drive this, Amelia, you wanna drive this, but this is, this is,

this kind of dominated your experience of the party. We get out of, we get out of our record. Yeah. Yeah, we're recording, you may have heard this Patreon episode, recording while the party is going. The party is happening. We get out, the party is in full swing, basically.

Where our- People are fucking and sucking. Yeah, people are- And- Hollywood. And they look good. Hollywood, baby oils out. They look really, really good. Yeah.

A lot of, there's a ton of, there's surplus baby oil this year because the ditty party's run away. So, there's yeah, a lot of suckin'. Stuff's on clearance. I am like, ugh, my brain is melted. We gotta go to this party. You and I are, look, if we didn't record

on the day of the holiday party, there's a good chance we would not have been here just because we're losers that don't go to anything. But I think that everyone else was excited to go to the party. And I was too, I was excited to see people and hang out. I guess. We're on some elbows.

There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They had a taco cart, which was nice. Had some tacos. I get out almost immediately from me, I hear this news that a stray kitten has been found. Yes. It's in Marty's office.

Alex, who works at Hegem, she found the kitten, put it in Marty's office. Shout out to Alex. Alex, great work. I am immediately like, oh fuck. Well, first of all, I thought when I heard that there's a stray kitten, I was like, my night's ruined because I'm gonna go outside

and try to find the stray kitten. But Alex, I, it's, I, look, I have some trauma with kittens when I was younger. I love kittens, so I like, so if there's a kitten I see on the street, it takes up my whole night. This is the truth. I, you know, the cat, the kitty and the marsh, I've told my whole night. This is the truth. You know, the cat, the kitty in the marsh. I've told this story before.

It's a very sad ending to a stray cat kitten I saw when I was younger. If I see a cat, I need to try to help it, a stray cat. Yeah, as soon as this cat showed up and it's being kind of a makeshift domicile for it is Marty's office, the CEO of Head Gum. His office is being used as the spot for the stray cat to hang out.

And I just knew that you were gonna be, I was like, that's Mitch's night. He's gonna be completely fixated on this for the rest of the party. And you did nothing else. You were right, I did nothing else. I ate tacos at one point, because I was like, I need to go eat tacos.

Did you crush any brewskies? I had two drinks nervously looking at the door where the cat was trapped inside. That doesn't sound like crushing brewskies. It was not crushing brewskies. Sounds like anxious sitting. It was anxious sitting. That doesn't sound like crushing Bruce Geese. It was not crushing Bruce Geese. Sounds like anxious sitting. You're like a bouncer.

It was anxious sitting. I was a bouncer standing by, and by the way, God bless Marty for letting the kitten be in his room and knocked like a sentimental cup of his off of his desk. Yes, yeah. And Marty's the man, but everyone wanted to go see the kitten cause they were, you know, like they're like, I want to pet it or whatever whatever And then it turned into me

Screaming at you know one of the owner of the network of Amir being like don't open the fucking door I was just like everyone and everyone want to go in and see the fucking kitty and pet the kitty And I that's what I was a little kitten. I'm like it's gonna dart out Yeah, and I'm gonna kill you and that's what I'm, it's a little kitten, I'm like, it's gonna dart out. And I'm gonna kill you. And that's what I, I said this to one of the hunks and I couldn't have felt more like a school shootery. Yeah. Sometimes a chunk has to speak up to a hunk.

It's true. It's a life lesson. Thank you, I agree. It was this thing where one of the hunks, I was like, he was like, what would happen if it got out? And I was like, if it got out, I'd fucking kill everybody. That's what I said to him. And I saw the look in his face be like, ugh.

And I was like, I'm like the weirdo guy at high school now with all these fucking good looking hunks. Yeah, stay out of my lane. That's my job. They're all thinking I'm a weirdo. And look. I also just, on that note, the other thing I remember is that like you were talking to Marty, he was being great throughout the whole thing,

but you were talking to Marty, you're like, your fucking dipshit employees keep trying to get in there. I mean. I mean. Sometimes the truth hurts. I did say. Sometimes the truth hurts.

I did say that exact line. I, and Marty was like just laughing at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you know what? To Amir's credit later on, I was like, I'm sorry I yelled at you. I mean, I was like just laughing at me what to Amir's credit later on I was like, I'm sorry I yelled it. I mean I was like Cancel the show, right? Well There's a lot of celebs coming in here. We're the doughboy stocks going down. I Was like I said to Amir I was like, I'm sorry I was joking yelling a lot but also was at some points was like don't come in here But I said to Amir I was like, I'm sorry that I was joking, yelling a lot, but also was at some points, it was like, don't come in here.

But I said to Amir, I was like, I'm sorry that I was yelling. And he was like, and to his credit, he was like, no, you were right. Like it was stupid to be letting people in. I was like, okay. So he was being nice about it. There was a little bit of buyer's remorse because, or Mitch, helping Mitch remorse

to one of our employees. Yes. I asked Amelia, I was like, could you possibly take this cat home tonight? And can you help me watch the door? I'm so nervous about this cat. I left the party. And just, you could not really house this kitten with Wally and Irma and the kitten could be safe.

There's a couple of issues. One, we're not sure if it's FIV positive, which FIV is cat HIV, basically. Amelia also has a cat, so all these problems also present in any other way. This is true, but hold on, Emma, this is a conversation that we had, actually. We talked about this at HeadGum. Over tacos, we had talked about it a little bit. We were talking about this, is that...

The thing is, you can put the kitten in it... Basically, the way that you get FIV, this is so boring, but I gotta tell you, is that like it's usually transmitted through fighting. So they like bite another cat and it's like saliva to blood is usually how it transmits itself. Right. While in our adult- So if you just like sucked off a cat,

you have nothing to worry about. If you suck off a cat, you're safe. Okay, got it, okay, great, great. Whew. Probably good you were okay, great, great. Okay. Whew. Probably good you were guarding that office, bro. Or if you eat a cat out, also safe. Okay, great, great. You gotta use a dental. That's.

My girl always uses a dental dam with cats. So, we were talking outside. Wally and Emma are very nervous. They get very aggressive with other cats. I could put it in my bedroom or in another room, Emma, which I think you're implying, Wally opens doors now. Oh, I forgot Wally knows that. Wally can open doors.

And I'm just like, this is just not the, it's not gonna work. Amelia has a bathroom, she was gonna put the cat in the bathroom, also, what is it? FIV. Not FIV, but the leukemia. There's also feline leukemia virus, which is also dangerous. I didn't think that anything was gonna happen.

I said this that night, I was like, I don't think that the cat is positive for either, but she had a bathroom and I was like, can you take it home and watch it? She took it home secretly, I also want her to keep the cat this whole time. It is like, I have machinations here, is that the right word? You're gaslighting her into a cat ownership?

Yeah, there's a part of that too, but I cared about this kitten and I wanted her, and Amelia had a bathroom, she was keeping it in her bathroom, which was chaos to her. We went to Sant'E D'or the next day, they took, it was the party was a Thursday night, Saturday we went into Sant'E D'or. Shout out to Sant'E D'or.

So shout out to Sant'E D'or, which we're gonna make a contribution to them. We will make a contribution by the time this episode comes out. We've been making contributions. I know, but they did a lot of nice stuff. So they tested the cat, FIV free, no leukemia virus, and, uh, and it wasn't chipped.

So Amelia, if you want to speak up on maybe all of this, cause I've given my side of the story. Yeah. Okay. So Mitch asks me to house the cat for one night and I'm like, sure, yeah, that's no problem. First of all, at this party, I'm way more nervous about Mitch at this point than I am about the cat itself

because Mitch is freaking out. And I was like, okay. No, it's like clawing at his skin, he's so nervous. Sounds like you're having a panic attack. Yeah. Kind of. I think so. The cats are so innocent and sweet, just a little baby cat.

The cat was fine. Empathy. The cat was fine and I was like, you know what? I think the lowest stress situation is for me to house the cat because I don't think, I think it would have been a lot mentally for you to. You would not have slept a wink that night. Yeah. No.

Yeah. And I was very casual so I was like, yeah, I'll take the cat, no problem. Then the next day Mitch was like, can you hold onto it for one more night? My bathroom's destroyed at this point. Yeah, what'd you do after those talks? No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, no. That was a miscommunication here for you. My bathroom was not destroyed. My bathroom was fine. Amelia's bathroom was destroyed. The kitten's walking around. The kitten destroyed the bathroom. So I'm like, yeah, one more night. We go to Sante Dore, everything's good.

We de-fleed her de whatever. Yeah. De-wormed. De-wormed. De-FIV'd. They put some de-wormer in my mouth too. It's like inbernectin. So now I'm allowed to let her out and about.

And that's where things get tricky, because I did a very good job of not getting attached to this little kitten. And now she's sleeping on my neck every night. She's a little cutie patootie. She's so- Tested positive for being a cutie patootie? Exactly. She's so cute. She's so affectionate for being a cutie patootie. Exactly. She's so cute.

She's so affectionate. Wait and also- So cuddly. You should say what the name, which I think is gray. Oh, I decided to call her now for now. I called her a Sunny because we found her on Sunset Boulevard. Weiger wants to call her Cum. That was just a pitch.

We never lock into it. We were calling her Little Caesar for a while. Little Caesar was very cute. We called her Little Caesar. We were calling her Little Caesar for a while. Yeah, we called her Little Caesar. We had done a Little Caesar's episode that same day, so Little Caesar's felt fitting. Yes, but a little lady, it's a little lady, and we like Sunny.

Also, she was found on Sunset Boulevard in a wheel well. A very dangerous spot. Shout out to Alex for saving her. She's thrilled to be alive, this cat. But you're a hero, first of all. Amelia's a hero for saving this cat's life. No, no, it's Mitch Appreciation Day, not me. It's the truth. She's the hero.

I merely kind of helped, but I was very nervous. It is almost, look. I can tell you're nervous now, just reliving. Yeah, yeah. Yes, I am. You're having some semantic flashbacks. But also, I did say to you nervous now just reliving this. Yeah, yeah. Yes, I am. You're having some semantic flashbacks. I did say to you that you were gonna twist it to me being selfish.

And there is a little bit of selfishness trying to save the cat. When did I do that? On the text. Remember I was like, of course you're gonna try to spin it being like me doing this for selfish reasons when I'm just trying to save the cat, which I am. Wait, I didn't do that.

I know, I know. But that's something you said. You concocted in your head about him. Are you developing a martyr complex? There is a bit of selfishness to it, because I do care about, I do get very worked about animals, and I know that I'm a guy who eats meat.

I know it's a little bit- Oh, we know you're a guy who eats meat. I know that I, a bit of a, what's the word I'm looking for? A hypocrite. But I don't know why to, I don't, look that I a bit of a what's the word I'm looking for a hypocrite But I don't know why I don't look I'm going we all wait that this is this is a this is a societal problem This is an issue where we have different hierarchies for different life forms summer summer vermin summer pets summer food summer hunks summer hunks summer chunks I

I love cats. I was I want I'm trying to push you towards keeping, I told you that I would give kitten support the entire. Like child support. Yeah, yeah. Which is like, I will treat this like child support if you decide to keep it. I'm like, oh, you drive a hard bargain. I do want her to meet Wally Nurm at some point. And we want to bring her into the studio,

but Casey's allergic. Sorry. No, it's fine. No, it's fine. We still want to do it. What if we kept her in a cat backpack and we didn't let her out? That sounds like a good word.

Or what if you put Casey in a backpack? OK. OK. Cat gotta be contained. Maybe he needs to be in one of those little tubes. It would be pretty cute. Fishbowl over your head while you produce. I'm open to it.

We can have you in like a contagion suit for the whole episode. Contagion suit. You can give me a contagion suit when you get a cat. And then you gotta walk out into the alley and get sprayed down with a hose. Emily, you gotta do that. OK, I'm ready.

If you have this kitten meet Wally and Irma, you will never let her go. I think they also will try to destroy her. She matches, they like. I know that. Yeah, it's the little race car. Tuxedo cat. We'll throw some photos into the YouTube, right?

Oh yeah, she's a polydactyl too. She's got extra thumbs. Wild. Polydactyl. Yeah. She could be a hooper. She could. Yeah, imagine if she could get that cat on the clippers.

And he can back her up. Imagine what an advantage that would be in pro sports sports if you could be a polydactyl athlete It really means something you got like a sixth finger. I thought you're saying with the cat I was like, I think the cat will be bad at the game No, I mean if human beings had that like that was a common genetic mutation. Oh, I got six fingers I can throw a two thumb to fastball. Yeah, you could six fingered Mitch. That's what they would call you. Sounds good as hell. Wouldn't be using him too much.

What were you gonna say? I was gonna say, I have made a good faith effort to find the owner of this cat because it was found with a collar. It was found with a collar, but we've talked about this. I've been posting on Facebook, PawBoost, Nextdoor. Blue Sky? Not Blue Sky yet. Truth Social?

Truth Social's got a post. Truth Social, you find the owner? Did you say Kick? Kick, yeah, that's like the conservative streaming platform. Oh, right, yes, yeah. Meet his friends on there. What's the horny one, what's the horny app that where people just hook up?

What is it called? I thought that was Kick. Oh, is it Kick? Do you mean Grindr? No, not Grindr, but also Grindr works too. What's the one, isn't there one where they just hook up? What is it called? I thought that was kick. Oh, is it kick? You mean grinder? No, not grinder, but also grinder works too. What's the one, isn't there one where they just hook up? You're thinking of field. Field.

Wait, what's field? Uh oh, Casey's a little freak and turns up. Exposed, bro. Casey's a play in the field, if you will. What is field? Is that why it's called that? Field, it's like, you know, what up if you're looking for a good time.

So people just, it's like they're hooking up. well, it's it's not for not for finding a relationship Okay, I think it's for more Casual encounters not necessarily more like sexually open and experimental A third you should slide on there. That sounds like a true nightmare. And also, I could just get that from this show. If I set it on an episode. Looking for a husky third?

Looking for a husky third? Hey, excuse me, Spoonman. We saw you from across the bar. We kind of like your vibe. Honestly, it's already kind of happened. Wags has been there for a while. That's the secret Patreon tier. Wags has been there for her. That's the secret Patreon here. Wags has witnessed it a couple times.

There is a vibrant hot-wifing community among the Doughboys fandom. I think that you're doing God's work here. It's really not much. It's fun. It's fun to do. I want you to keep God's work here. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I want- It's really not much, it's fun. It's fun to do. I want, I want you to, I want, I want you to keep Sunny, but I also know that's a lot to take in another cat.

But a second cat. We'll see what happens. I mean, she's warm and she'd melt in my heart every damn day, so. She's gotta work on Arthur. Yeah. What's that? She's gotta work on Arthur.

Well, so good update. She sniffed Arthur's butt today. Hey, there you go. Yeah, and Arthur let it, let that happen. Hey, there you go. Yeah, and Arthur let that happen. Wow, progress is happening. Makes two of us. You sniffed Arthur's butt today? Jemmy perked up, she wants to sniff Arthur's butt.

Talking sniffing butts? Me in on that. Talking sniffing butts? Amelia, I will say what I said previously, which is that whatever happens with this cat, you've already gone above and beyond. It was very, very noble of you to take care of this stray. And Mitch, you as well. I should It was very, very noble of you to take care of this stray. And Mitch, you as well.

I should say a very, very caring man. I've called you Tony Soprano in the past with affection because you have that like- Biggest insult of all. No, no, no, no, that love of animals. A sociopath that loves animals. Yeah. You could choke one of your loved ones to death.

He's a hunk and a chunk. He's the nicest man in comedy. Oh wow. That's true. Tony Soprano also very funny. Yeah. My YouTube algorithm is a lot of Soprano clips now. Yeah, I get a lot of them. I always watch one of the Polly beaten up.

Remember the lady who likes her son and then Polly beats him up because his mom likes him basically. Yeah, I love the, I mean, that's like a great scene because it's just, he doesn't know how to process that basically. Yeah, I love the, I mean, that's like a great scene because it's just, he doesn't know how to process that feeling. Yeah. But the, I love the Sopranos

because like first there are people who are like just like funny in the comments who are like, you know, a lot of running jokes, a lot of memes, a lot of Sopranos references in the comments, but then there'll also be people who would just be like, that's why you don't disrespect the boss. You know, some dumb Italian guy. And he's, I apologize for that tangent, but.

We had to, we had to discuss the cat. We had to discuss the cat. No. Okay, we got to talk about a couple of things you're wearing. First off, you got the Gamecocks hat on. You are from South Carolina. South Carolina born and raised. And you've also got the Canes, the Raising Canes sunglasses.

Now talk us through the sunglasses first. How'd you end up with those? Well, I'm a big Canes fan. Shout out to Canes. I love a good box with a sweet tea, slaw, extra toast. I go to Canes a lot whenever I can. Was it ever like when you were in the South, was it a presence then?

Well, no, Canes wasn't around growing up. I grew up in a really small town in South Carolina called Benetsville. We had a local fast food place called the Dairy Dream. And they had like, it was owned by a Greek family who were some of my family's closest friends. We're the two immigrant families in the small town. One from Greece, one from India. And they had like fried chicken and gyros and ice cream. But their best thing was the chicken finger box,

which was chicken fingers, slaw, and they would do like a roll, like a Wonder Bread roll. So the kind of box style that you get at Cane's, tender slaw and some bread with the sweet tea, that's very nostalgic. Yeah, right. So Cane's was kind of a newer brand. So as soon as I found out about it, I got into it.

And then as soon as they opened one, there's one in Burbank and there's one in Alhambra. Those are the two's I go to. Yeah. I try to hit it up whenever I can. And one time I went there and I saw these fire cane sunglasses available. They're very sharp.

The lovely lady checking me out said, all you have to do is fill out a little survey at the bottom of the receipt. Wow. Did that right away. Service, five. Food, five. Atmosphere, five.

Do you have to give it all perfect to get the glasses or were they given to you in the middle of it? No, you can be honest, but hell, I was being honest. Wow. And we got these Cane's glasses and we're here. Are you, you were very nervous that you maybe had left the glasses today at the restaurant. Yes.

And they were just on your hat, it turns out. Yes. That was huge relief. Huge relief. I was sitting in the car kind of like, like a whole, kind of like Mitch when he was guarding the cat. Yeah.

It was just a hole in my gut, anxiety. And there had been a couple of times in the past I thought I lost them and they turned up again. But I was like, well, this time they're really gone. Well, cause you've also got the thing that, you know, you wear glasses normally. Yeah. And so, and I remember when I, you know, I've laced it,

I got laced it many years ago, but I used to be a glasses wearer. And so like, yeah, I wanted to do the sunglasses swap as a whole calculation. You were a glasses wearer? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw you do improv, oh, I guess you did kind of wearer. And so like, yeah, I wanted to do the sunglasses swap as a whole calculation. You were a glasses wearer? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw you do improv, oh, I guess you did kind of wear glasses.

I had glasses and then I also had contact lenses. I wore contact lenses a lot once I became an adult. Like West Borland style, right? Yeah, very much so. That was your movie. Yeah. And then I got Lasik and then I never had to worry about it.

Yeah, that's a problem with sunglasses for me cause I got to get the prescription. I stopped getting like nice sunglasses cause I'd always lose them. Yeah. And then I was out of the sunglasses for me because I got to get the prescription. I stopped getting like nice sunglasses because I'd always lose them. And then I was out of the sunglasses game for a minute. And then you know what? Raising Cain's brought me back. Cain's isn't around where I'm from.

Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, it's a Louisiana spot. But I know it is around where you're from because we've talked about it before is Bojangles. Bojangles is a Carolina chain. So if I'm going home here with chains, I'm hitting up. Number one is Bojangles. Bojangles is a Carolina chain. So if I'm going home here with chains, I'm hitting up. Number one, Bojangles. It's a classic, originated in North Carolina,

fried chicken, biscuits, the legendary sweet tea, and one of my favorite dessert items on any chain restaurant, the Bo Berry Biscuit. The Bo Berry Biscuits were a delight when we had them in Tennessee. I like to touch down. I think you maybe told us that we had to get them. You got to get them.

I fly in through Charlotte Airport all the time. My parents live outside of Charlotte now in Waxhaw, North Carolina. So Terminal B at Charlotte Douglas Airport, that's where the Bojangles is. I'll on my way out or on my way in, I'm popping into Bojangles for sure. The airport Bojangles is a good execution of it.

It's great. Wow. Any direct flights from LA there, or are you going to take? Yeah, straight up. Oh, damn. good execution of it. It's great. Any direct flights from LA there or you gotta take? Yeah, straight up. Oh, damn, it's perfect. Straight up, one and a half hours. American Airways, send me some points. American Airways.

Send me some points. I think no one likes this classification anymore, but I would say you're a foodie. I think that that is fair decision. Yeah, I mean, I'm a foodie. I'm an enthusiast, I'm a food historian. I'm a food enthusiast. I try to... I feel like when we're texting,

we're almost always texting about food. We're almost always texting about food. Yeah. Your brother also too, a big food guy, was saying today that I went to Little Dom's, your brother, for the MTV Movie Awards, famously where I put my hand on Tom Cruise's back for five minutes and then took my hand off of his back.

And you observed his date, the datans. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, the Tatans. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. You observed a couple of Tatans. I sucked them out. Just jokes, Tom. Hit me up. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. All of. I met Tom Cruise once, and he was really nice to me.

He'd remember it. Shout out, Tom. Wow. That was. Around that same time. I was going to say that was the time I met him was my hand on his back. I never really, I guess, got to officially meet him, but I was touching his back dead in the eyes

Yeah, he's a very very direct talker guy. I saw that when he was talking to people That's why when you're just hanging out on his back. He doesn't really yes, right. There's not much He doesn't turn around too much But I remember in the early days of love feels like little Dom's was and then best fish That's fish tacos, you know my cousin I remember in the early days of Los feels like Little Dom's was, and then Best Fish Tacos. Best Fish Tacos. You know, my cousin, who I grew up with, she lives back home in South Carolina now. She lived in LA for a period when I, around that time when I first moved here. And she'll ask, what are, oh, people still go to Best Fish Taco?

I'm like, no. No, they kind of don't. They don't. It's still an operation though, right? It still is an operation. It's still a casualty. It still is good. I mean, it's just that funny thing.

And I don't want wanna throw out misinformation, but I believe there was some like problematic situation with the, running some comedy shows there, and maybe there's some problematic information came out about the ownership. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe you can, Nix fans can hit that up, the police.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure what, but people don't go to it as much anymore. Fish tacos is tough, man. For me, that was, Best Fish Taco in Ensenada was kind of a hot spot back then. And then to me, what really took it out was a place that's very near and dear to my heart, Ricky's Fish Tacos. I don't know if you've ever been to Ricky's. Yeah, I went to Ricky's.

Ricky's used to run in the old blockbuster parking lot on Sunset. Yeah. And then he moved, he was for a while on Riverside Drive. And Ricky, me and my brother got to know him over the years. He catered some stuff for us, just super nice guy. And I think he got put, you know, it's tough running these food trucks. And I think especially that area in Los Filas,

Riverside Drive, I think the like- That's right, he was under the bridge. Under the bridge, it kind of got pushed out by public infrastructure. They built all those bike lanes and those, like, weird poles they used to displace homeless people. Fucking bike lanes, Wags. These fucking bike lanes. But that was my favorite fish taco in L.A.

for a long time. Now I like, if I want to get a fish taco, on Marisco's on Sunset. Yeah, yeah, that place is bomb. But wait, so the fish taco time. Now I like, if I want to get a fish taco on Marisco on sunset. Yeah, yeah, that place is bomb. But wait, so the fish taco, because I remember, I grew up in Southern California, a lifelong LA server dude.

And the, I remember discovering the fish taco cause it was like, it was not a thing that was even common in SoCal for a time when I was a kid. And I can't imagine- That was a great one? What's that? Guisados. Guis a time when I was a kid. And I can't imagine. That was a great one. What's that? Guisados. Guisados is great.

And tamales. I can't imagine that there were fish tacos, certainly, in Massachusetts or in South Carolina. This is a thing you learn about in LA. In Massachusetts, we had plenty of fish, but no tacos. You're right. I mean, like, early on, it would be cool. I remember I would get a shrimp quesadilla.

We could get a shrimp quesadilla from, like, there's a very specific style of Mexican food I remember I would get a shrimp quesadilla. We can get a shrimp quesadilla from like, there's a very specific style of Mexican food you get down south. In Columbia where I grew up, there's a chain called San Jose's. If you're from Columbia, you know San Jose's. And it's very like a little less rustic

and more like a lot of queso and like- Little Tex-Mex-y. Little Tex-Mex-y, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they did like, you get like a shrimp quesadilla or like a shrimp taco, but not this classic like beer. Once like, I think there was like, in a way that like salted caramel just became a thing

at a certain point, like beer battered fish taco kind of became the thing. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I can get anywhere, but yeah. You could probably get a fish taco back in Mass. Like way back even in the day. But it's just because we have a lot of fish and also it was at like the one or two. Like, you know, the one Mexican restaurant in town or whatever.

But fried fish in New England is like clam strip rolls. It's always like on bread. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like Adam, Adam, I feel like if you there's like there was definitely seafood at Mexican restaurants and you could probably get a fish taco, but like the idea of a fish taco, when I came out here, yeah, more so I would say out here. Kind of a mind, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. I did wanna get your take on, Bojangles has a regional competitor. I know it's not exactly, it's I believe from Georgia, not from the Carolinas, but Zaxby's. I love Zaxby's, man. And honestly, I wouldn't, this is my personal opinion. I wouldn't consider them competition.

I feel like they're two different skews. Cause Bojangles is chicken and biscuits. That's a very specific skew. There used to be a couple of other ones in the area. One from Georgia, I really liked, I don't know if it's ever come up on here, Mrs. Winters chicken and biscuits. No.

If you're from Georgia, you know Mrs. Winters. It's Mrs. Winters for dinners. That was a pretty good chicken and biscuit place. That closed down. But Bojangles is like fried chicken and biscuits. Zaxby's is wings and tenders. So I'm going to Bojangles. I'm getting like a two piece, either a two piece

in a biscuit or my personal favorite thing to get at Bojangles is the Cajun filet biscuit. It's a spicy chicken filet fried on a biscuit. I put a little Texas Pete on top, get some sweet tea, and the Bo Berry Biscuit on the side. Phenomenal meal. Wow. Zaxby's is more of like, to me they are,

Zaxby's and, I don't know, have you talked to American Deli on here? No, we have not. American Deli is a classic like Georgia, Atlanta thing. We haven't spent much time in the South. We have not, we've got rid of a show in Atlanta. It's wings, it's wings. American Deli has, and Zaxby's to me,

have the best like fast food wings. So Zaxby's, I always get and recommend people get, they have their main order skews called the Wings and Things Combo. Well, first off, Zaxby's, you gotta shout out everything on Zaxby's menu is kind of like has the Mortal Kombat style where you know if you play a Mortal Kombat video game, it's like everything has the K.

And Zaxby's like everything is K. So you don't have appetizers. You don't have appetizers and salads. You have Zappatizers. Yeah. Oh, you want a salad? No, I'm sorry, sorry. We have a salad, which salads are insane.

I saw an ad, one thing I like about- Yeah, salad is wild. One thing I like about watching sports- You ready for a follow-up? I was trying to think of a third K. Killer and stick. Dang. Ooh, that's a different game.

A different game. That's a different game. I saw a commercial for a salad on like regional sports TV watching Atlanta Hawks on NBA league pass. And it was like, here's a salad with two piece chicken tenders and a whole egg roll and salads are crazy. It's just basically the bed. But the wings and things combo is great.

You get some wings, you get chicken tenders, you get fries, celery and a carrot and a Texas toast. And then you get Zach sausage, just kind of like their king sauce. And I like to do wings and things combo. I do the tongue torch wings, which is like one step up from hot. Oh, yeah. And then, you know, they don't advertise this on the menu, but you can get your wings tossed in, excuse me, your tenders tossed in wing sauce.

Oh, wow. So I like to do, they have a really nice teriyaki sauce. I'll get tenders in the teriyaki sauce, extra ranch, extra toast, boom. So Zaxby's is great. I love Zaxby's. If I'm home for a while, I'll try to hit Zaxby's, Bojangles, I'd say my top Waffle House.

That's the one, like I don't get that out here. Waffle House is probably my favorite, favorite chain. Waffle House is what we've said before in the podcast. We're glad it's not out here. Like these regional chains should stay regional and like it loses some of its charm if it expands out here. It would be great if you had a 24 hour Waffle House

that was really hitting. Yeah, they're open to Bojangles out in Southern California. I feel like it is a little bit of that vibe. They're gonna fuck it up. Yeah, it's a huge possibility, but I will say just also the late night food game in Los Angeles went so downhill. I mean, almost everywhere because of COVID,

so many places late night food game went downhill. It's just tacos. It's just tacos really. Right, it's mostly tacos now. And you go to Langer's, but I mean, that's kinda like, I mean, if you're over there. It's just trickier now. Even when I would go to Cactus Taqueria, which would be open till four in the morning on Vine,

it's closed at like midnight now. But is Ricky's fish taco, is Ricky's gone? I, you know, I, I've lost, Ricky, if you're hearing this man, please reach out to us. I just, we haven't heard from you for a while. I hope he's okay, I hope Ricky's in our hang. I think he just is dealing with business and he kinda went dark on social, but.

Like dark, like he's making like fucked up jokes. He's gone cueing on. No, he can't. He just can't stop. He has a manifesto, like when we do these jokes. No, no, they just kinda wound down business and I don't know what's up there, but. I never got the, because the lobster tacos

were the ones that they had on certain days. I never had them. Can I tell you guys a secret? Yeah, please. You may have to end this at the pod. Okay, great. But Ricky's hasn't been operating, but he did give me and my brother the recipe.

Wow. So we've made it with the Ricky's recipe. Wow. And we've done a pretty good job. It's pretty good. Though the only problem is, is like he gave us the recipe like he makes it and my brother like didn't, we scale it down.

So we just had this like big ass tub of like batter. It was just like, he put it in the fridge and my brother's the king of like, oh, you think this has been in the fridge like three weeks, four weeks, five weeks, is it good? You think it's good? I'm like, no. He'll call me in the middle of like, oh, this has been in the fridge for like three weeks, four weeks, five weeks, is it good? Do you think it's good? I'm like, no. No.

No. He'll call me in the middle of like, he lives in London, so we have a time difference, so it'll be like the middle of the night here, early in the morning, but like, hey man, I had this curry in the fridge for like, I don't know, I made it on Sunday, like, do you think it's good?

I'm like, it's Thursday, man, like, I don't know, smell it. Yeah, that's five days afterwards, that's rough. People get pretty paranoid about stuff like that. I try to just make small portions and eat quickly. The smarter way to do it. I am, Nali's great about it, and I'm bad about it. I do like forget about stuff. I do like leftovers.

I feel like some people have an anti-leftovers take. I love leftovers. I think that's both trash and racist. I just said I love leftovers. Oh, wait. OK, sorry. I didn't know what you said. I mean, I do too. I love leftovers.

I love leftovers and I voted for Barack Obama. Things change over the next month. We're like, we are sorry for saying we like leftovers. I'm sorry that I said I voted for Barack Obama. I did not vote for him. I, of course, voted for Barack twice, actually. Did I vote twice? I probably voted twice.

I think so. I think the one election I didn't vote for was, well, I won't say it. I did say I did try to get you a Romney guy going on the podcast, and that didn't really get any traction. Yeah, it was a good day. There's all the that you were Romney guy going on the podcast and it didn't really get any traction. It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't, yeah. There's all the actors who are Romney guys.

Yeah. You know what I did vote for is chunk of the year and I voted for my man Mitch. Mitch appreciation day. Come on a second. I'm not sure if chunk of the year. Pretty good. Fuck Josh Gad, it's Mitch this year.

I know Gad's won it four years running. This is Mitch's time. Gad always beats me for chunk of the year. Gad always wins chunk of the year and then cries at the acceptance. It's okay to cry. We gotta talk ice cream. That is a shot on Josh Gad.

We gotta talk, and deserved. We gotta talk ice cream. Fuck Josh Gad, we're going for it. Yeah. More like Josh Gack, you fucking slimy fuck. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Fuck you, Gak. Come find me, bro. I'm outside. I'm outside. I'm in Los Angeles. Where are you? Is Gak, is he tough at all?

I'm sure he's a nice guy. He's busy fucking Qbert. I'm sure he's a nice guy. I don't care. He isn't. Oh yeah, that's right. He fucks Qbert. He fucks Qbert and Pixels.

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Stop people people are I mean if you drove by that, you know It's it's the four post and there's parking spaces people will park all cat All cattywampus, left and right. They really will, yeah. It was crazy. But the- Just give us a curb. The idea of bike lanes, you know, we want to have more transit, more infrastructure for people to ride around. When I pulled up to Handles,

our restaurant for today. America's Creamery since 1945. 1945. That's right. So my dad was three when it was- A landmark year in American history. Yeah. Some people call it the turning point

Who were totally after J Robert Oppenheimer dropped the atomic bomb on two beautiful cities in Japan? We're talking about Alice Handel had a dream of making premium ice creams of a variety of flavors and Serving them to the people of this beautiful country. Wow. Just riffing out an intro. Very well done.

Right around when Oppenheimer, that's right then. 45 is one of the, is that when it ends? Is that when- Yeah, 1945, yeah. The war ends. WW2, the second big one. Yo, yo, real quick, real quick shout out to the greatest generation. It's my dogs. There's some good ones in the greatest generation.

Greatest generation was a joke, but now you look at generation now, our generation, generation coming up, like, yeah, they probably peaked. That thing's probably peaked with that generation. They could fix a tire and like. There's boomers. I know, I know. I know that I went after Matt Gioni.

Greatest generation was silent generation, right? Is that what they, the same overlap? It was partly greatest generation, partly boomer. I think it's all silent generation. Look, Hollywood Boulevard, fine. Turn it into a street. Dreams are made and broken. Anise is right, dreams are made and broken on this street.

Turn it into a bike street. Have it just so you can cross traffic there and going east to west it is. I think that's the idea of shutting down Hollywood Boulevard. It's already shut down so much anyway. It's one of the worst parts of the whole city and the idea of making that into a walkable space instead of closing it through traffic seems to make a lot of sense. It seems like a way they could kind of re-enrich that.

Your little perfect bike lanes aren't so perfect after all. I didn't say that bike lanes. Bobby bike lanes. We need more bike lanes. It's a fucking Bobby bike lane. We need more bike lanes I think we need more bike lane We need more bike lanes and we need more bus lane fucking bike Bobby bike lane and it's fucking annoys the shit out of me. You were wrong. Just admit you were wrong on the bike lane What do you mean was wrong about the bike lanes? What do you tell you time? What happened today in front of the restaurant a debacle? Yeah, that guy was parked in the wrong

There was a guy so when we got to handles today wrong about the media We're not going to fight about this. We're not going to fight about bike lanes on Mitch appreciation day. But more bus lanes and more bike lanes are generally good for moving people around as opposed to moving cars around. I agree, I'm just being a bad guy here. But devil's advocate, tell them what happened at handles, Mitch. I pulled up and I was parked in one of the new spaces that makes space for the bike lane,

it narrows the road, traffic is worse, but... We should clarify, just to paint a picture for people who maybe haven't seen this in their town, this is a thing that you see, we saw a lot of in Toronto. It's like a newer approach or a somewhat new approach. And all the transport guys hated it so much. It's so funny. Well, yeah, if you drive for a living, it's a little bit, but I mean, there's also just an overall...

We're not going to get into it. Anyway, I was going I mean, there's also just an overall, we're not gonna get into it. Anyway, I was gonna say, there's sidewalk, I am for them in a way. Sidewalk, bike lane, barrier, and then parking. Yes, and so if it wasn't done in such a shitty Hollywood way, I would have been more happy with it. I'm not saying it's a great implementation of the idea, but it's a good idea.

If it was a sensible barrier, maybe, like yeah, the little pylon system, they're also on Riverside Drive. It's the same shit that displaced Ricky's Fish Tacos. There's a lot of negativity coming from these fucking pylons. Don't love the pylons. And look, I will say this. There were two bikers today using the bike lane,

but at the same time, there was a guy who pulled up and parked in a loading zone in the bike lane. And there was a huge fight between one of the bikers and the biker was in the right. The biker was like, hey man, you have to park on the other side of the bike lane. You're parked in the bike lane. And like those guys like almost hit him on their bikes.

And the guy went off and was just fucking swearing at these guys. He's like, fucking keep going. He was like, fucking keep going. And Mitch was like, can I get the brownie? Is that what you're saying? And is that cool? It is true. I was, I was, and this guy was getting to a big fight

with this guy parked there, right near where my car was parked. I was on the other side. We did get the bystander thing, which I always love, which is the guy who sees that you were like observing and then just is like, like you guys are on my side, right? Like a guy biker just I've sometimes been that guy. I love getting that reassuring. Yeah, I gave him I gave him this thing where I was like, yeah, man He didn't get it. That's what I said. Yeah, and then I looked over nervously to see if that guy heard it

I don't want to like be like fucking the guys like oh, yeah, fuck you too Massive brownies Cause I didn't want to have to be like fuck and the guy's like oh yeah fuck you too and I'm like fuck now I'm gonna fucking And you're holding a massive brownie suddenly with a cherry on top. Look. What'd you say bro? I would've kicked the shit out of that guy in his car. Actually he was pretty aggressive. I don't know, he was kind of a

You're a big dude but he was pretty aggro. And I wouldn't want to mess up my Sunday. I don't know who wins in a fight? That guy versus the three of us and small spoilers, Susser. Yeah. I mean Susser, I'm gonna go ahead and small spoilers, Susser. Yes. I mean, Susser, I'm gonna go ahead and take him out of the equation. I don't think he's jumping in.

No, he's not, no. I don't think he's running away. Susser would at least break things up when we were getting our asses kicked. He might break things up. I would try to calm it down. Or maybe, actually, Susser might join in on that guy's side when we're losing.

Oh. There's a possibility that Susser would jump in and fucking start hitting up. He's anti- bike lanes as well. Okay, okay. Susser covered in whipped cream and ice cream. Susser was covered. We'll get into that.

We'll get into it. Handel's homemade ice cream, as Eddie said, was founded in 1945 in Youngstown, Ohio by Alice Handel. Alice sold ice cream made with fruit from her own backyard out of her husband's gas station. That's the genesis of this place. I think there are still a lot of fresh fruit mix-ins into their creams. The ice cream is made in store each day.

It expanded to California in the 2010s and has over 120 franchises in 14 states. So here's the thing. I didn't know much about handles just in general. Neither did I. We saw them popping up, because they were in SoCal, but they started popping up in LA proper

within the past five years. And I was worried they might be a pandemic casualty, but they seemed to be thriving or at least surviving. I had never had handles before. I had never had it. And then you saw this National Geographic. Yes. That was the big thing.

National Geographic said it was like the best ice cream in America. Interesting, yeah. So, but this was 2006, but still it's like, it's well regarded and it has a lot of history. Because I never had handles and because I'm a bit of a creamsman, which I believe our guest is as well. Same and had never had handles as well? I made three separate trips to handles to try to sample all of their offerings because the thing that you deal with with ice cream is you can't have... Nice research. You can't have like just a ton of ice cream. cream is you can't have- Nice research.

You can't have like just a ton of ice cream. Variety of flavors. I need more flavors. It's diminishing returns. Oh, you fucking fat piece of shit. Diminishing returns. You can't have like eight scoops of ice cream in one sitting.

You need to spread it out a little bit. I went last night, to be fair. Me and Mitch went twice. We went back to back. I went today. You guys were going today and I was like, okay, I'm going to go again. I went yesterday as well. And I did not know much of Handles at all. I love the vibe of the place. You were sending me photos. It's a counter. It's old school. Yeah, the Handles in Hollywood that we went to is kind of a counter vibe. Yeah. The weather's been kind of nice, that was cool.

It was, I think that this place is gonna go crazy in the summertime. Yes. Especially that spot, that street, look, the bike lanes are making it pretty nice, that street. Yeah. Oh. A couple of options, couple of small local chains,

home state, go get them Tiger up in there. That's right. So-go roll. And Mendocino Farms right next door. Mendo, CFG, California Fish Grill. Oh yeah. Just opened up. I like California Fish Grill.

Would you like that or California Chicken Cafe more? I like California Chicken Cafe more, but I like California Fish Grill. It's good. It's a good option. Should I talk about what I did last night? Yes, please. I got myself a hurricane.

Cane, so that, I was, when I saw hurricane on the menu, I was a little confused at first, because to me, when I see hurricane, I don't know if it's a regional thing, or I think of it as like an alcoholic drink, called the hurricane. Oh yeah, I'm aware of the hurricane, yeah. So that's what I thought, and then I was like,

oh no, it's ice cream thing, and now I realize, oh, it's just a direct shot at DQ, it's their blizzard. It's their version of a blizzard. It's their blizzard. It's their version of a blitz This this is a thing that that Natalie pointed out is like a lot of their flavors Other menu items are like, you know, basically royalty free nods to existing things Yes, like for instance, they have that they have the hurricanes which are the blizzards The other one that I think is really noticeable is they have a chunky monkey that is just exactly chunky monkey that is called Monkey business monkey business. This is a little more niche and I've seen this come around to different places is they have a chunky monkey that is just exactly chunky monkey that is called Monkey Business.

Monkey Business. This is a little more niche. And I've seen this come around to different places. But they have the Cookie Monster style flavor. They do. Which is a blue ice cream with Oreo cookies and classic chocolate chip cookies. You see it on a lot of menus.

And I could be wrong. But to my knowledge, that flavor originates at the Southern California chain, Afters. Because Afters was the first place I saw it, and they dropped it when they were doing an official collab with Sesame Street Workshop. Wow. And they specifically used the, like,

to the Panatone Point die that's proprietary to Sesame Street Workshop and the Cookie Monster for that. So I think anytime you see that, I think that's a ripoff of afters. I could totally say that. I could be wrong, if I'm wrong on Reddit. Correct me, but do it in a nice way. You don't gotta be like, well, you know what I mean? Just be like, hey man, I heard what you said.

If we got bad news. Here's the information. It's not gonna be in a nice way. Well, I'm trying to activate change amongst your community, Doc. So just like, think about how you present the information. I think people will be commenting in good spirits here on Mitch Appreciation Day. Yeah, yeah.

This will be a celebration. Show Mitch some love is all I ask. I think you're right, Wags. I think people will be really nice today on Mitch Appreciation Day. Also, speaking of saying something nice about Mitch, I just kind of noticed this fit's kind of giving a little cookie monster.

Kind of do have a cookie monster vibe. Kind of a little cookie monster vibe. Ookie cookie. Yeah. Yeah. That's classic cook. You know what I'm gonna say? Give me ookie cookie.

You know what I want to say, Anise, is that speaking of very nice, I meant to say this up top. Last Thanksgiving, I was ill. I had the flu. I was sick with the flu. So my Thanksgiving was a wash. Yeah. This guy came over with a Thanksgiving dinner and dropped it off at my door.

Brought you a plate. It was extremely nice gesture. It was extremely nice. I'll never forget. It was very nice gesture. Truly one of the saddest texts I've ever gotten. Hey, Meshachar's Thanksgiving going, It was extremely nice gesture. It was extremely nice. I'll never forget it. It was very nice gesture. Truly one of the saddest texts I've ever gotten. Hey, Mace, how's your Thanksgiving going? I have the flu. I'm by myself at home.

I think I said, oh, are you going to eat anything? You're like, I may order some Domino's or something. Bro, I'm bringing you a plate, dude. I'm like, pretty close by. We have leftovers. I'm bringing you a plate. A great plate, too, by the way. Awesome Thanksgiving at my brother's house.

Me and my brother love to kind of cook and entertain, so we had a lot of food on deck that year. A great plate. It was a great plate. And it was very, it was very contested. We had the turkey going, rice. Me and my brother do a classic southern style mac and cheese. Oh, that's fun.

Wait, what's your secret to your mac and cheese? Well, when I was growing up, both my parents worked. My dad's a doctor, my mom works at the hospital, the medical office. So we had a nanny that took care of us, and she would make us, she was a woman who grew up in South Carolina, and she just made us all Southern food growing up. Wow.

Fried chicken, biscuits, mac and cheese, rice and gravy, collards. Wow. So we ate that food growing up. Wow. Fried chicken, biscuits, mac and cheese, rice and gravy, collards. Wow. So we ate that food growing up all the time and she kind of, I learned some of the recipe from her and then we've kind of adjusted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To kind of what we do.

But it's a classic, I mean, some people find it controversial, you know what I mean? It's a classic Southern style baked mac and cheese. Yeah. So it's got creaminess with a crispy top. That's what I like. I know some people are anti-crispy top. Some people prefer just straight creamy. And I say you do you.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't understand that. I don't think there needs to be a schism here. I think there's room for both. That's a problem with this fucking country today, guys. Schism, good tool album. Oh, great. I love that.

I love, it's one of my favorite songs to play on the bass guitar, classic bass riff. Oh, there you go. Justin Chancellor, one of the great bass players. What's your- And fun bringing it all around when we first met in Recita, California. Oh yeah.

At the parking lot, we were standing right by Adam Jones, guitarist at Tool. That's right, irregular. That's where I met him. I like enema. Shout out to Adam. What were you gonna say? What's what? No, I was gonna ask what's the cheese blend you do.

Oh, usually just like a mix of cheddar, maybe some Monterey, maybe a little parm, but yeah, I keep it simple. I feel a lot of stuff with cooking is a lot, keep it simple and fresh ingredients is kind of my mantra with cooking. Tool big, big comedy fans. They were like, with Bob and David,

they went to tapings of it, but I think they were in Mr. Show, like in the audience of Mr. Show. The main word I think is canceled. I think you've gotten trouble, but they, the song Enema is about, it's that Bill Hicks bit about Arizona Bay. That's right. Just some, I wanna toss out some knowledge.

RIP Bill Hicks. Mitch knows facts. You know one of my favorite things about Mitch that I appreciate is Mitch knows facts Mitch does no facts I do know facts you guys out there. You don't think I know facts I know a lot of fucking those quite a bit of that quite a few facts fucking pay attention sometimes I'm not wrong every single time So by the way, I just want to say if you thought my Thanksgiving sounded really depressing I wish you could have gotten a window into what Wiggs was doing at that exact moment,

too. What was going on? Playing a video game while Natalie's in the other room. I think that was a no-phone Sunday, so I didn't get to reach out. Pretty much my default day at home, playing video games while Natalie's in the other room. Thanksgiving, you don't usually do too much, right?

No, we don't do it. We don't do it. You don't do a Thanksgiving dinner, ever. We'll sometimes make something for the two of us, but we decided a while ago because all of our family is in Southern California. So it's just like every single occasion, everyone is right there.

And so we decided we're gonna take this holiday and just have this be for us. So we just kind of do our own thing. And we usually will make a dinner or maybe we'll get some food out or whatever. When do you see the family? Christmas or like a- What's this? What's the family? Christmas or like a bunch of other days. Like people got birthdays and shit.

I just saw my family. What do you want from me? I love your family. I text with your dad all the time and your mom. Yeah. Thanks. Wait, I'm remembering something. My brother, my alpha brother, Nate, he got a new job with a works in tech industry,

got a new job at a startup called Pipe. And I saw him, I know this is the thing I saw him. He's laying that pipe? This is the thing. I saw him at Christmas and he's like, hey, you'll figure it out. But I don't know, I thought there could be something with like laying pipe or like smoking pipe

or something like that. I was like, I don't know. I was like, that's pretty good. The guy's an alpha man. Yeah. And he's the man. Always gotta be an alpha brother. Yeah. Yeah. Peyton and Eli man. Always gotta be an alpha brother.

Yeah. Yeah. Peyton or Neelie? I'm an Eli. You're an Eli? I'm definitely an Eli, dog. I do me. Hey, what's wrong with being an Eli? That's what I like about Eli.

Hey, Eli, he won a Super Bowl. Peyton has the big voice, but Eli does him. Yeah. Sorry, I took that out on God. It's not his fault. Not his fault, the Pats' fault. I mean, at least the Pats are doing not good this season, actually.

They're very, but our quarterback is decent. So, and you're a Hawks fan. I'm a Hawks fan, Falcons, Braves. Look, this is dated, but maybe they won the NBA Cup. It's a possibility, Wags. Dude, if the Falcons won anything in the NFL, if the Hawks won the Emirates NBA Cup, I would be so excited because the Hawks

are my favorite team and Emirates is my favorite airline. Anyone from Emirates is listening right now. I'm an Emirates silver member. My family is a huge Emirates family. We use Emirates to fly to India regularly. Next way to fly to India, straight through Dubai, Emirates, the service is excellent. Wow.

Please Emirates, show me some love. They don't fly, do they fly in the United States or no? No, mostly just like out. Okay. Yeah. I've never flown Emirates. I will say I went to an Emirates NBA Cup game. Wow. The Los Angeles Lakers were playing the Utah Jazz,

and I have an Emirates hat that I got from Emirates, because I fly Emirates, and it's just a hat that says Fly Emirates, but it is a red cap, and I did go to this game the week after the election, so I did feel a little hesitant about doing it, but fuck it, we ball, What's up, Emirates? I repped it. I repped it. I repped it.

I thought I was... I thought... I was confused, and I thought the United... Emirates... I thought that it was... It's not for the country. The country did not sponsor the cup. I foolishly thought that the country... No, the airline. ...sponsored the cup.

It's like how there's American Airlines. It's ironic because Emirates' hub is Dubai. And then if you go to UAE, you fly Qatar Airways, which Qatar Airways also excellent staff to Qatar Airways. The business class lounge in Doha, phenomenal. If you're ever flying through Doha, throw a little extra money to get that business class lounge. If you have a long layover, it's totally

worth it, one of the most beautiful airport lounges in the world. Wow. Taurus cool country just because it sounds like guitar. Does sound like that is pretty cool. Also, I got a guitar hero. It's a new video game. Why? There's I got a red

Wayne Gretzky Vineyard sweatshirt up in Canada that I like a lot. Oh, that's awesome. And now you were sipping that Gretzky. I was sipping the Gretzky and now he supported Trump, so now I'm like, oh, no, no, no. Now it feels like, you know, if you wear it, I don't know, I'm probably still gonna wear it. I don't think anyone, I just-

He's also Canadian. Yeah, I think everyone's gonna be over it at this point. That's my prediction. I think with 25, they're all gonna be over it. Okay, all right, maybe. People are over it. People are over it. The sun is setting on this beautiful country.

This is the thing of marketing. I'm always hyper conscious when marketing works on me. And so because Emirates sponsored the NBA Cup, I'm like, it's the first thing that put Emirates Airlines on my radar at all. And so I find myself looking at the Emirates website and be like, I have a pretty good signup bonus for the credit card. It's not bad. Not that I even have a reason to fly. Also, I have a pretty good signup bonus for the credit card. It's not bad.

Not that I even have a reason to fly. Also, it's a very Western thing because an Emirates is like one of the biggest sponsors of soccer and football in Europe. They're probably some of the biggest teams have Emirates sponsorship, so you have to have a great awareness. I know Mitch doesn't like Europeans, but I had to.

Italians. I do a roofer. The Mercedes-Benz stadiums is great, and Mr. Blankman, Arthur Blank, is that who he is? Yeah, yeah, Mr. Blank, yep. Mr. Blank. He owns Home Depot. He is, he's like one of the, it feels like he's.

The owner of the Falcons and the Mercedes-Benz stadium in Atlanta, GA. He seems like one of the better owners. They keep the prices cheap in that stadium. Yeah, the food prices are cheap. It's State Farm Arena, right? State Farm Arena used to be Phillips Arena. It's all down there in Centennial Olympic Park.

I was just down there. I went to a WWE pay-per-view down there with my buddies. Fun. And I just love it. It's a different world down there, man. You go get a beer. It's $10, $10, not $20. You know what I mean? I mean, we talk about this a lot, it's 10 bucks, not 20 bucks. You know what I mean?

I mean, we talk about this a lot, me and Weiger, because we both are very fortunate. We live out here, we're huge basketball fans. We have the access to go to Lakers games and previously Clippers games there. And the state of food services in crypto.com arenas is a travesty. I'd characterize it as dire.

It's dire, yeah. All the food is mid. Isn't there a Doritos restaurant now? There is a Doritos restaurant. It's a gimmick. It's not good, yeah. And all the food's expensive. I bought a hot dog, fries, and a beer.

Where do you think I'm paying, Mitch? Just out of context, where do you think I'm paying? I mean, I'm gonna go high,. I'm going to guess $30. $50. $50. Oh my god. Meanwhile, down at State Farmery in Atlanta, you have reasonable prices.

You have good food. You have Antico Pizza, one of the best pizzerias in Atlanta, Sling Pies there. I bet. I love it. Problematic, but you do have Chick-fil-A. You can grab some tenders, grab a sandwich. Which is in the Mercedes-Benz Stadium,

which is funny because football games usually on Sunday. So Chick-fil-A not open a lot of the time. So it's a little loophole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little loophole. But they're not open a lot of the time. Oh, that's airport too. The airport's the same way too.

Yeah. But that's how God intended it. Wow. But yeah, I don't know. I just wish that all these big, and then I haven't been to Intuit Dome yet. Me neither. I'm going soon, but from what I've heard

is the food is trash there, and it's all the same kind. And it's like, I think these big tech CEO people, these venture capitalists, fuckin' investment bank people, are cheaping out on the food and not thinking about the fan experience. I agree. We want recognizable brands, and we want convenience, and we want fair prices.

And we don't wanna to like a fucking like, like it's just like, oh, it's all on an app that scans your face and so everything seems like, that's not what we want. We want to like be able to walk around and say, oh, barbecue. And it's like a nice local barbecue restaurant or something. That's what most other places, I love it.

MSG, you can get a Fuku tenders. I love Fuku. Oh wow. Shout out to David Chang, the homie. I love this Fuku tenders. I love Fuku. Oh wow. Shout out to David Chang, the homie. I love his Fuku tenders. They had those at MSG for a while. I mean, yeah, other places you can get. I was up in Seattle.

I went to, I believe it's called Climate Pledge Arena. Up in Seattle, get Seattle a fucking basketball team. That arena's dope, dude. Yeah, I know, overdue. Just like awesome food, local food, local breweries, and just like, I don't know. It's a shame that- The team's not doing well either. Yeah. And well, you know what else is- Wait, what is that? It was a shot at the-

Oh, no, no. I was saying, it's a shame with the food at crypto, and I was saying the team's not doing that good either. No, they're not. No. Crypto. Celtics are doing pretty good. And you know what? The food there is pretty good too. Actually, food at the Celtics. You know what?

Garden is OK. It's Mitch Appreciation Day. Let him cook. It's Mitch Appreciation Day. Congrats on your world champion, Boston Celtics. Yeah, we found out some information about the Boston Celtics. I don't think we can say it.

But there's something interesting about where we are with the Boston Celtics. We won't get into it. We've got to talk about the restaurant. We haven't talked about handles. We haven't talked about Handles. We haven't talked about it. Okay, let's just, real quick guys, I would like to, before we dig into Handles,

can we just zoom out a little? Please. And talk about ice cream in America, because I feel like, much like coffee, we have no time to talk about ice cream in America. We gotta pull back, brother. You know I'm the king of context. We gotta pull back.

Yeah. So you gotta, I feel like we've kind of gone through a couple of stages and fads, kind of periods of ice cream. We were talking about this. Yeah, you had like, kind of like in the 90s, was kind of classic ice cream dryers or E.D.'s. It was less of a parlor thing. It was more of like a, here's a grocery store thing.

Yeah, this is a freezer section thing. Maybe some fun flavors like cookies and cream or pralines and cream. If there was ice cream that you're going out, it was either- Miffed chocolate chip is an exciting flavor. Exactly. Cookie dough, I remember that being invented. That was a new thing that came to me.

I know. You and I talk about remembering when we remember when chocolate chip cookie dough was invented. We were outside for that. I mean, someone's going to correct us and be like, it was actually invented in 1960. But I remember when it was like we came and thing. Be nice about it.

We became standardized. But here's what it is. And then you went to the kind of Cold Stone era. Right. You know what I mean, Cold Stone. We had a, I had a boy back home. There was a marble slab in Columbia that was a Cold Stone analogist restaurant

so the homie would hook it up. But the word you got and all fixings and the toppings and like, I kind of never really loved that in retrospect. I feel like it was just like a bunch of toppings and melted ice cream. It's not like the most, well, like highest quality cream because the cream is a means to win, and it's a binder for all of these various toppings

you want to throw in there. And it itself is kind of a derivative of the, uh, like a next beat, but a derivative of the frozen yogurt shop. That was the next stage. Yeah, you had your frozen yogurt. I remember, I really learned when I moved to LA in, for the first time, in like 2010,

Pinkberry was like the spot. Yes. Pinkberry was the spot. And then I remember five years later, like frozen yogurt opened, and my mom was like, they opened frozen yogurt down here. It's pretty neat. And it's like, oh, that's how trends escalate

through the country. So we had frozen yogurt when I was a kid in SoCal, but it was a different tier. It was TCBY. It was TCBY, it was penguins, you know? And so Pinkberry comes out and it's like the evolution of that and it's like, oh, the toppings are fresher, it's a little bit of a higher quality product.

And people may not remember, it used to be like, oh, this is just the tart yogurt. They had one flavor, yeah. And then it just evolved into being ice cream. Right, right. And then the, you know, and then you obviously get like the Menchies and the Yogurt Lands where it's like the self-serve. Like frozen yogurt is its own category.

But yes, you were correct that ice cream has kind of gone through like- And now we're in the premium, I would say. We are in the premium slash- Jeni's. Yeah, we're in the gentrification of the ice cream parlor. Yes, the premium gentrification, Jeni's.

Whereas it used to be like you'd go to like, thrifty, write a drug store and like get some from behind the counter. Baskin Robbins. Yeah, and so like Handles is interesting because it is a throwback, but I also think the quality of product is on par with the more artisan, like higher end creamery.

I think the key there is that they are making the ice creams in-house. Yes. I feel like that's a noticeable thing between ice cream places is made in-house, I think you're getting a better texture and probably a better flavor. The best places I like in LA are the places

that are making them in-house. Yeah. Which do they have a back of the shop where they work? They do, they have, and the one at Culver City location, which I went to a couple of times, that one has a very large footprint. Like you look at the storefront, like they've got like the amount of space they have allocated for their ice cream is like, you know, they get a whole back area where they're doing

stuff. Remember that Good Friday song on Cottonian, they say ice cream paint job, something like Breyers. They shout out Breyers on that song. That's cool. You don't remember this. It's a good song, Good Friday. Breyers and Dreyers are able to coexist

because they're just proper names. Yep. How about that? Because it's like it's sort of like, yeah, yeah. You had Knicks and Ricks. Exactly, yeah. If you made Knicks fish tacos. Right.

And then if Ricks tried to sue me and be like, hey, you're just ripping off Ricks with Knicks and trying to create brand confusion, I'd be like, well, it's my name. What am I supposed to do? And then they're like, oh oh yeah, also your tacos suck. Yeah, yeah. It's like you don't know how to make them.

These are really bad. I pulled up to Handles, I went there last night, but I pull up today at 2 p.m. We didn't know what was going on. I got out of a dentist appointment at cleaning. Mitch goes to the dentist. He was like, oh. You're trying to say that I was gonna be.

That's fun. Remember that viral video? Yeah, that was good. I wasn't driving home from the dentist fucked up. It was just a cleaning today. Dr. Toonzy, the man, loved Dr. Toonzy. Recommended to Anya. Anya goes to Dr. Toonzy now.

No cavities. Yeah. But then it was funny to go from my dentist. I pulled back down to my place, sat there for 10 minutes. You were having lunch with Libby. You were on your way- I'm buddy Libby Watson, yeah. You were on your way to Handles. And so I, yeah. You were on your way to Handles.

And so I was like, I'm just gonna go to Handles Ice Cream, which is the funny thing to go to after your dentist appointment. Right. It's like a little kid's dream to go and get ice cream after the dentist, I guess. It's disgusting. I just had my teeth cleaned.

I didn't really wanna do it, but I pull up there. It's not like you're eating like popcorn or something. It's true. That's very true. But I pull up there, you guys not like you're eating like popcorn or something. It's true. That's very true, but I pull up there, you guys are there and then also a surprise guest. Yeah, so here's how it happened. So Libby and I had a little lunch, we walked over, actually,

she wanted to get joined for ice cream, she was like, yes. She said, she said like, oh, that would be quite corking, whatever she would sort of say. She had some cute Britishism. We walked over and we waited. Oh, we got there.

We passed Anise on the way, and Anise was going to get a coffee. Had a good quick espresso. We get there and I take out my phone just to take a picture of Handel's The Parlor. And I noticed in my frame is Susser. Susser's just there. So Susser's already there. Which by the way, he didn't, he walked there,

so he must have been on a walk, and I said this, he didn't even know about us going to this place in about 15 minutes before we got there. Yes, yeah. So I don't know, he acted so quick. What were you gonna say, Anise? Well, I was gonna say the timing is crazy because when I was walking towards go get him Tiger to get an espresso,

I walked by handles and no one was there. He wasn't there, yeah. And then you guys converged at handles at like the exact same time. It was a mitzvah. Really was. How did he do it? There's a cheetahs across the street.

I have no idea where the fuck he was. Wait, didn't he have all that cash when he cashed a tip? Bunch of singles. He did have cash when we had a tip. Bunch of craft singles. He tries to give them to the stripper, she's like, no. Even faster goes to strip clubs during the day and throws cheese at women.

His wife knows it's fine. We'll maybe edit this out, but I said, I was telling Libby that Bugbane got thrown out of Cheetahs. And then- For sure. And then Susser came over and I was like, you heard that Bugbane got thrown out of Cheetahs? And Susser goes, again?

Oh God. I don't think we have to leave that. That's funny enough. Mitch got thrown out of that fat burger around the corner. It's a good fat burger. That's a classic. That used to be one of the burgers. I mean, it's a ratty looking fat burger. Yeah, yeah, I think it's fallen off.

For a while, it was like, oh, that was like a late night. Yes, 100%, yeah. I don't know how popular it is. We love fat burger. Love fat burger. for a while, it was like, oh, that was like a late night. Yes, 100%, yeah. I don't know how popular, we love Fat Burger. Love Fat Burger. Look, I went to this place last night, I was there, so I pulled up- Handle America's creamier since 1945.

I got there, there's this fight going on, sussers there, it was just complete chaos. It was fucking chaos. Kind of different from my experience last night, but my experience last night, I went there, you guys are hyping up this plate. You show me your ice cream sampler, it's huge. Yeah, so-

I say, I can't, I said- Two minutes of context, he went to a different handles and got that sampler. This is the issue. And I did mention this yesterday, the handles on the east side does close at 10, you're pulling up at like 930. I was pulling up at 930, which is not great.

It's not bad, but just context. I got a hurricane, the hurricane. There was a bit of a debacle. It wasn't working. You got to change it to another ice cream cup. And then when I saw the amount in there, which didn't matter because I didn't eat all of it, there wasn't a ton in there.

You guys were getting huge portions. My portions were smaller. It looked like you got a small and a medium cup, maybe. Yeah. And then I got a small. So it was a smaller and a small cup. But also- You saw the small I got today, it was to the top. It was to the top.

Yeah, my small mind was overflowing. I mean, Sasha got small today, it was to the top. And also I couldn't tip on the card, I had a Uxcasso, a lot of different things, but look, it didn't matter. When I went home and I had the orange cream, which you recommended. Orange cream dream. Orange cream dream.

I believe it was actually orange dream cream. One of their unique, dream cream. Yeah. Orange dream cream. ODC,'s actually Orange Dream Cream. Yeah. Orange Dream Cream. ODC, one of their more unique original flavors. I got a sampler, so I'll just tell you what I got. It's the Midnight Madness. Oh, I had that today.

Midnight Madness is very, very good. I liked it quite a bit. Read the toppings on that. It's kind of an interesting mix. Midnight Madness is a decadent dark chocolate ice cream rippled with Reese's peanut butter and stuffed full of peanut butter Oreos. Really nice.

Sounds great. It was great. That was one of the four of my Sampler Wags. I also got the strawberry cheesecake, which I liked quite a bit. I got the, what was the dough one that has the brownie dough? Oh, dough.

Oh, no, brownie, I did brownie dough. Oh, brownie. So which is brownie and cookie dough and the orange cream dream and the like I said, the strawberry cheesecake. That was the same one. And then I also got the hurricane with Reese's peanut butter cup. The the hurricane I thought was was good. It was tasty. It was wise. I think. How would you compare it to a blizz? I think it's very well done. I don't know, I don't- I feel like you're probably getting better ice cream in the Blizz, if you did side by side.

I think that I maybe like the Blizzard better, but I think that the quality here is very high. That's what I was gonna say. I would maybe go the other way, which I think maybe like the mix-ins, you're getting a larger volume of mix-ins at the Blizzard, but I maybe like the viscosity and flavor of the ice cream a little bit more.

This is an awesome game. I don't know if you've gotten a Blizzard recently, but the inflation on Blizzards is pretty rough. It's been a while since we got one. So it's not like you're going to get a 399 Blizzard and then this is like five or six bucks. I think the base small Blizzard you can get is like six to $7.

And we're talking like- fucking country. Okay, I know It's better now back in my day. You could get a blizzard for 399 and they'd hold it upside down We so we talked about that you obviously get the prestige of them turning the ice cream upside down The blizz flip you were saying and I agree with you Natalie had the same thought I don't think you could do that with a hurricane I think that's what it's credit. I agree. I like it more drink same thought. I don't think you could do that with a hurricane. I think that some bitch would- But I think that's to its credit. It's a little more edible. I agree, I like it more drinkable. But I think that some bitch would spill everywhere. You said viscosity, which is a gross way to talk about food,

but you like the viscosity of it. I do like the viscosity. Okay, so I made a couple of visits yesterday. I went on my own. You went twice yesterday. I went twice yesterday. Once for lunch after a workout, and I was pretty hungry, and I got a-

Don't really brag about the workout when you went to get ice cream. Just let you know. once for lunch after a workout, and I was pretty hungry and I got a... You didn't really brag about the workout when you went to get ice cream. Yeah. I'm just saying, I had an appetite, and that context is important. Oh, good for you. That context is important.

I had a big appetite because the medium waffle cone I got, the guy described it to me, he said it's four and a half scoops of ice cream. So a medium is 4.5 scoops. It's a lot of cream. He's like, sir, it's four and a half scoops of ice cream. You probably want the large. I see how your thighs are vibrating post-workout. But the medium you get two flavors as opposed to the small. The flavors I got were two recommendations

from the worker there. Confetti brownie batter, which is kind of like a birthday flavor but with a chocolate base. I love that. That's a classic. I will say I was shitting on Cold Stones earlier a little. They were to my knowledge the first people that had cake batter as like a really go-to flavor. I love that.

They really were popularizing birthday flavor for sure. And they also had the Graham Central Station which I loved. I thought was delightful. I think that's a great flavor and also the name. It's dorky enough that he also would love it. And also the name of a great funk brand. One of my favorite funk bands led by the great Larry Graham, as many of you know, the inventor of slap bass

and the uncle of Drake, the pedophile. Wait, is that really what the band is called? Graham Central Station? Wow, how about that? Check them out. Here's what I was, yes. Wow, how about that? Check them out. Here's what I was saying. Well, music knowledge, that's my fact zone.

The Graham Central is a graham crackery plus with some chocolatey clusters. I thought it was delicious. I really liked the confetti brownie batter as well, although chocolate ice cream in general, like I'm less keen on. I usually like chocolate mix-ins with a different sort of base,

but I think this was a good execution. The only negative I will say is the medium waffle cone I got. The waffle cone itself was not particularly notable and I don't think it's made fresh in-house. I mean, can be, because if they're making them fresh, you're getting that nose. Yeah, and we were not getting that smell at all.

That's like, I mean, just comparatively, like if you go into a salt and straw, like that's part of the salt and straw experience. You're going in, you're getting that cone nose. Yes, 100%. Yeah, try to get them whiffs. Yeah, that aroma is omnipresent. But, so, as far as return visits, I was like,

I don't need to get a cone again. And in fact, I'll be going back to Handles, but I'm never gonna get a cone. I didn't get a cone. You're going cone-free there now? I'm going cone-free because the cream is the star. Natalie and I... Can I ask you a question?

They also have a sugar cone. What do you think of sugar cones? I don't need them. They kind of just taste you think of sugar cones? I don't need them. Oh, they kind of just taste like styrofoam. I don't need them. I want like a fresh waffle cone or I want a bowl or a dish. I also just like a cup because of mess factor. Definitely, I'm very messy.

You can be a messy Jesse sometimes. I'm trying to find the ice cream I got today, which is hard by the way. Let me know because I have a photo of the receipt if you need help. So I also got, Natalie, Natalie, I went back, she went for the first time. We got the, she got the four scoop sampler,

which I think is the move because they have a daunting number of flavors. It's a great offering. And I'd say a huge bit of context is a standard scoop is about five to $6. And comparatively to a lot of places, you're getting basically like a double, hefty double scoop. 100%.

So a single, you're getting like two big scoops of one flavor. If you get the sampler, which I believe is 7.95, you can try four flavors, which with the huge, I believe it's over 40 flavors, you wanna do that. I think it's the move. And it's in a little plastic little thing, it's fun. So she got a banana cream pie, blueberry cobbler,

pomegranate sorbet, and buckeye, which is their peanut butter ice cream with a chocolate swirl and peanut butter filled buckeye pieces. She said that one was very good. I didn't try that one, but the other ones I tried, banana cream pie was delicious. And the blueberry cobbler was very good as well.

I kind of, an overall thought on this place is, I kind of like the non-chocolate flavors more than the chocolate flavors. I would say the chocolate, I agree with that with the exception of that, what's it called that we had, the Mitch, the one we got with the dark chocolate. Yes, that was fantastic. That one was really good. Wait, the Midnight Madness?

Midnight Madness, thank you, yeah. That was the one chocolate one that impressed me. Otherwise, I'm kind of with you. And speaking of chocolate, I also got a Blue Monster, which is the public domain version of the Cookie Monster one we talked about earlier. It is blue vanilla ice cream with Oreo chunks and chips on orange chunks. I mean, that's just a great flavor.

I know I kind of just wanna clarify the afters context, but if I see that flavor, I am gonna grab it. I thought it was delightful. I thought it was a lot of fun. And I just got a small scoop in a cup, but it was more than enough. It's still a huge, huge amount of ice cream. I'm a Green Monster guy, unfortunately.

I like the Red Sox, they're wild. Yeah, so Blue Monster I passed on. I think you would like this flavor. No, no, thank you. I think you'd like it. I think you'd like it. I don't think so. Oreo chunks, Chips Ahoy chunks, vanilla ice cream.

I passed. Green Monster, I'm not gonna miss. It's blue, which is fun. fun you voted blue you're wearing blue Sometimes you get blue Still I'm a green man your favorite character in the Jurassic World series is blue the That is not true. Yeah, it is dog when Pratt when Chris Pratt as as Owen Grady went up to him and went You're my boy blue Owen Grady went up to him and went, you're my boy Blue, you're tearing up dog,

you're tearing up, Blue is his boy, Blue is his boy. Pratt and I are boys. Hashtag tomorrow fam and also me too, hashtag Parks and Rec. Parks and Rec, look, I'm a green guy Kermit over all muppets. Wow.

Celtics, monster. Damn, Gonzo was feeling himself earlier, now he's in the mood. I guess what? I'm just telling you, I didn't try it. This is the issue. I think you would've liked it. I also got a banana split hurricane,

and contrary to your experience, Mitch, this dude made the shit out of this hurricane. It was like he was diffusing- He said surgical precision. It was like he was diffusing a bomb. Mine was still good, by the way. This guy was like- I had, just as we're talking games,

I had the Reese's hurricane today, with just some Reese's pieces in there. Great. Texture, yeah. It's what you want. I watched him make it and he was meticulous and it was delicious. It was so good.

And I would just say strictly better than a Blizzard in my experience. I just liked it more. But, and then we went today and wait, wait, you had a previous experience and what you want to talk about. So I wanted to go twice just to get, it seems like the deal here is like,

hey, we have a variety of fresh flavors. So I will say I went yesterday and just from context clues I picked up that there was only one person working and it was one of the owners. And shout out to him, he gave me four samples. Wow. He gave me four samples. When we pulled up today,

the woman who was fucking phenomenal, she's- Why, did you remember her name? Maddie. Maddie from Massachusetts. Was she from Marshfield, did she say? I should remember, I think it was Marshfield. I believe so, yeah, she was super nice to us. But I-

Which Suster started, Suster just tell her to give her my credits. Because I was talking to her, it was her my credits because I was talking to her I like it was that funny thing where like I was talking to her and then he was like he's from Massachusetts I know we already established it She was asking me about the Celtics hat and then he pointed to Mitch and in the most low enthusiasm voice goes He's an actor. Yeah. Yeah Said he's an actor. I was like, I know also like trying to impress this person

I don't know what he was trying to do here. I mean, he was trying to build up my- So Esther's an agent of chaos, dog. He was trying to build- It's true. Causes a scene and spills ice cream all over himself. I think he saw me talking to a woman and was trying to build up my confidence. He's a messy bitch, literally. He was very messy.

As she was talking about her boyfriend, I think he was like, he's an actor. I'm like, what do you do? I don't know if he was trying to hype up my, I think he was trying to talk me up for something. There's a specific thing is that she was like, my boyfriend is working right now on Fallout, the show Fallout.

Quality show? Quality show. And Susser goes, Mitch is on a show with a similar premise called Twisted Metal, it's also based on a video game. He said it's also based on a video game set in a post-apocalyptic world. A very cool thing to say to a woman.

Anyways, she was doing her job and she was like, to sample limit. So that kind of bummed me out. Maddie, I loved Maddie. She did a great job. Maddie was great, she was just doing her job, but I feel like, I don't mess with the sample. I feel like, cause the thing that happened

that people, maybe younger listeners may not remember is during the COVID-19 pandemic, one of the L's we took as a nation was samples went away. Yes. Samples went away and it was tough. You're going in blind on ice cream, hard to try new flavors. It was awesome when samples came back.

Yeah, hey. Pugs are back, samples are back. At Costco too, which is huge. Oh yeah, dude, I stay at the Costco samples. Yeah. But so I could only try that many flavors. So I'm glad I went the day before. By the way, the Heavenly Hash is one of the, I didn't.

What's in that? I don't know, but I didn't see that one. I will say we couldn't. I mean, we did our best to cover these flavors. Here's a couple that I tried. Brownie dough, I believe Mitch talked about, chocolate villain ice cream layered with cookie dough and brownie pieces, that was great.

The Graham Central station, I ended up, I would say the horchata, if you love horchata, you love cinnamon, that was a good, also I don't know if you, I'm looking at the straight menu, they have a little cherry next to staff favorites, horchata staff favorite, monkey business a staff favorite, monkey business staff favorite. Like he said, that's basically chunky monkey.

And then I would say the best flavors I got in my experience for Handles was, I wanna shout out my friend, Kylie. I have a couple of people in my life who I have a deep friendship with in life. And one of the things we connect on is ice cream. Wow. You know what I mean? My friend, Kylie, my friend Jason,

we're just always texting scoops. Kylie, a big ice cream man, she went to Handles before me and she put me on orange cream dream or dream cream. Yes. And that was really good. And then I am gonna have to agree with you, Nick. Banana cream pie, staff favorite.

It's the first thing on the menu alphabetically. I got a full scoop of that. It was excellent. As a Southern person, one of my favorite desserts is banana pudding. It very much a global- Oh yeah. A grenade banana pudding.

And I would say too, trying ice creams in various places. Banana's a tough flavor to nail. It is. Sometimes you kind of enter this artificial banana flavor. This little sciencey, yeah. And yeah, I tried a couple of banana flavors Sometimes you kind of enter this artificial banana flavor. Tastes a little sciencey, yeah. And yeah, I tried a couple of banana flavors and handles. Guy getting a stretch on.

I tried a couple and they were all really good. Yeah. And ultimately- I'm gonna put on a sweatshirt and Jamie left. I put my coat on and my sweatshirt on and I think she thought we were leaving. She was like, I'm out. I make moves.

Oh, whack, whack, whack. I'll say too, my initial impression too, I like the branding of it, and I think this is kinda getting a little regional, but in LA and kind of starting to trickle throughout the world, you know, they just, like I said, my context with Pinkberry opening in North Carolina, they just opened to Jenny's by my,

my parents' house in North Carolina. And I feel like in LA specifically, the ice cream scene was a lot of like, you have Jenny's, you have the salt and straw, a lot of different places. I'm a big soft serve fan. That place I went to as a kid, Dairy Dream, they did soft serve.

So I was like, Magpies is a local chain, they have really fun soft serve. But it's a lot of flavors with balsamic vinegar and goat cheese and vegan and rose water. Too much rose water ice cream out there, guys. I don't really fuck with rose water. This was a classic American ice cream parter. You can still get a taro flavor.

You can get a matcha flavor. They have a few of those. They have also, I was playfully roasting vegan flavors. They do have a vegan and dairy-free, fat-free, no sugar menu, chocolate almond milk, mango sorbet, mixed berry sorbet, strawberry and watermelon ice. I bet those are, I bet those slap. I would love to go back and try those. The pomegranate sorbet Natalie got was quite good.

I didn't do any, the only flavor I got that was even, I liked the strawberry cheesecake flavor a lot. I was on the brownie dough, I was like so, so on it. Was this today's experience? No, this was last night's. This was last night's dough. How would it compare to, because this was another flavor that I would say for a while

was my favorite ice cream flavor was the Ben and Jerry's brownie batter. Oh yeah. They were, I believe Ben and Jerry's was the first one to swirl in brownie batter like that. And that was a revelation and I would, I would crush pints of that as a kid. So here's my thought on this.

I mean, look, we have to get, we have to, we have to get to our final thoughts here. Well, we still have to talk about what we got today. Oh yeah. I'll tell you what I got today. I got, I pulled up and I was like, I should get another sampler platter or try stuff. I went with for a brownie Sunday Wags.

I, I, I, a hot, a hot brownie Sunday. It's a big, it's a big section on the menu. Someone had to cover it. You got to. You got, so I, I, I. We have a photo of that. We can, we can maybe throw it. I, I, I, I got a photo.

You got a photo of me holding it. I had to step up to the plate and get a brownie sundae, warm brownie. This is my first meal of the day. I got- After having hands in your mouth for 90 minutes. That is right. After getting plaque worked off my teeth.

Just scraping. And I got- Just a chaotic life. Just go to the dentist. Then you go straight to an ice cream parlor, eat your first calories of the day. And then you go to record a podcast for two hours. And then we're gonna go get dinner, you and I.

For the podcast. For the podcast. Mud Pie, which has, it's a thing about ooh, thing about ooh, there's a little espresso ice cream with fudge and that was fun. Yeah, that was fun, I liked it. You did? Yeah, I did. I don't think you did. I liked it, it's? Yeah, I did. I don't think you did. I liked it. It's Mitch appreciation day.

Woo! I got the mud pie espresso ice cream with fudge and Oreos. And then I also got a rocky road, kind of a classic on there. Classic. Yeah, I love the, to your point, I liked that they just have the classic flavors. You can just get rocky road there.

You can just get coffee. The mud pie was- None of their interesting flavors are going to left field. just get coffee. The mud pie was- None of their interesting flavors are going to less field. No, yeah. The mud pie was great. I really liked the mud pie. Rocky road I liked, but it was as good as a rocky road can be. The brownie all together was fantastic.

I really liked this sundae. Wow, the brownie, were there nuts in there? There was no nuts in the brownie. It was a nice warm brownie though. They heated the brownie up. It looked like a good whipped cream. The good whipped cream, good hot fudge, cherry on top. It was very, very good. A good, good sundae. It looked like a good whipped cream. The good whipped cream, good hot fudge, cherry on top.

It was very, very good. A good, good sundae. It was very well done. It just was kind of old school classic sundae. I liked it a lot, Wiggs. I have a thought. Maybe I'll talk about it at the wrap up. I got this shake, a milkshake.

That's right. Get that Handel's branding in there. Which was- I love a shake. Half coffee, half chocolate. We both were a little mixed on the shake. I thought it was a good execution, but it knocked my socks off.

What was the texture, initial texture like? Cause sometimes shakes, I feel like, like I like In-N-Out. I like swinging in the In-N-Out. Yeah, sure. Just swinging in and out, grab a chocolate shake. And I love their shakes, but the thickness, it's like, oh, I kinda had to let my cheeks chill a sec

before I can get like, do a consistent sip. Yes, you want to take a little sip of three hour old shake? Right after you, no, I's like, oh, I kinda had to let my shake chill a sec before I can get like, do a consistent sip. You wanna take a little sip of three hour old shake? Right after you, no, I'm straight, man. They were thick, a big straw, I just. It was pretty thick, I think that it was. It is, I will say on the menu, it is described as thick. And then they have an extra thick version you can get.

So like, but we did not get the thick shake, right? And then they have something on the menu called Monster, which is two shakes. Which is two shakes. Who's doing that? No one's. I mean. I mean, yeah.

Why, what were we gonna say about the shake? I thought it was, I thought it was, the shake to me felt like it was there to check off a box. Like we should have a shake because they were an ice cream parlor, but it did not feel like, like, oh, I gotta go to Handles for a shake. You know what I mean?

So I loved my brownie sundae. Last night, the hurricane was good. I liked it. I thought it was well done, even though, like I said, there was a debacle getting it. When I had the Orange Dream cream, I was like, this is great. Now this is great ice cream.

The brownie dough I wasn't like as on board with, but when I had the bite of the strawberry cheesecake, I thought that was great. And then I forgot. That's a hard flavor to do sometimes. Sometimes the texture of the cheesecake and stuff isn't good. And there's like little pieces of like cheesecake in there. And then the midnight madness was great. Your apple pie ice cream wise. So yeah, we went today. I got the four scoop sample, the four scoop sampler, I did get a coffee,

just a baseline, it's one of my favorite ice cream flavors. I just wanted to see how they did. And you know what? It was great. I thought the coffee on its own was better than the mocha simulacrum we made with the coffee chocolate hybrid in the shake. O-Dough, which I like the name of that one.

I was like, we just have to get that because we're the Dough Boys. Oh, dough. I mean, the hand handles, if you hear this, hit my boys up for a little cross branding right up the street, the oh dough boys. We'll be waiting, crickets. Yes.

Nothing ever happens. Oh, dough, which is just a, it's an ice cream with, vanilla ice cream with Oreo pieces and then cookie dough pieces as opposed to our chips and boys. Which is kind of nice because I like, I like sometimes the classic cookie dough would be a little one-notey to me.

Yes. I'm with you. You were like, oh, dough! Do you want me to do it again? Yeah, please, please. Oh, dough! I thought that's how good it was. Yeah, that's kind of what I was like.

Oh, dough! I had a few bites and I was like, oh, dough! I took a bite and I didn't realize what flavor it was and I was like, oh, dough? Oh. It's Homer when he busts too fast. Like, oh, oh, oh, dough. Homie.

That's actually when the police, when the police find Mitch collapsed in his apartment after eating too much sugar, they say he Odo-verged. Odo was delightful, but to me the standouts were the deep dish apple pie, which I thought was delicious. I thought it was so good, and to your point about that, like, you know, tasting like the banana pudding dessert.

It was the same thing. Like this tastes like it's apple pie a la mode. I had to buy that too. I would say that was a stand up flavor. And I'm kind of like, if we're just talking fun names, like I like that it's deep dish apple pie. Deep dish apple pie is great. Orange Dream Cream, I'd heard about it from both of you.

I got it. It's delicious. Kylie's buying it by the pinecrest. So fucking good. So, so good. I thought that those four scoops, so that was like a Mount Rushmore of you. I got it. It's delicious. I was so fucking good. So, so good. I thought that those four scoops, so that was like a Mount Rushmore of flavors. I was so happy.

We also got a green tea was kind of solid. I didn't have the green tea. Amelia had the green tea. Emma, we got you a strawberry hurricane. Which I didn't say also my nickname in high school was Hurricane Mitch on the football team. I told you guys that my football coach nicknamed me Hurricane Mitch.

And I also had a drink called- Is it because you showed resilience like Denzel Washington in the boxing film, The Hurricane? Which I loved that song, The Hurricane. I was excited when that movie came out. I thought the movie was just okay, but I was Hurricane Mitch before this happened. Oh, okay.

Well, not before the hurricane, but I was Hurricane Mitch in high school and it was because Hurricane Mitch, maybe Hurricane Mitchell or Hurricane Mitch- Yeah, that was Hurricane Mitch in high school and it was because Hurricane Mitch, maybe Hurricane Mitchell or Hurricane Mitch, was coming along and also I told you guys last night that was it a name that was like kind of making fun of me? Yes. You weren't making a hurricane on the O-line.

No, no, I was not making a difference at all, but Coach Carter was nice. Coach Carter and Coach Creed were funny. They called me Hurricane Mitch. And I also made a drink, the Hurricane Mitch, which was Captain Morgan's and orange juice, which I call the Hurricane Mitch. Wait, isn made a drink, the Hurricane Mitch, which was Captain Morgan's and orange juice, which I call the Hurricane Mitch. Wait, isn't, so Hurricane, that's a movie.

But wasn't Coach Carter a different movie? Coach Carter a different movie. That's Samuel Jackson. He coaches a basketball game. But I had a Coach Carter. One of the best sports films, Coach Carter. Wow. I had a Coach Carter.

Coach Carter. Like a young Channing Tatum's in there like that stuff coach Carter Chris gives him the guys who put me in the equipment locker who I love yes, yeah Anyway, I must have been a big locker Down on the field there's like a shipping container It was a shipping container that said chunks only. Oh yeah, that's where we razz the chunks. That's where we haze the chunks.

You gotta get a shipping container. Emma, how was that hurricane? It was really, really good. I agree, I think I would choose that over a Blizzard. I bet you're just getting better toppings. Yeah, well I got it with strawberries, which I think based on the history was fresh strawberries It looked like and it tasted like fresh strawberries, and I love that texture of like a blended strawberry in my ice cream

It was really good. Yeah, I want to try some of their more fruity Options when I go go back next time again. Those were the standouts for me. Is there any flavors we missed? I know Amelia was got some as well. It's back. She'll be back shortly. She got a mint chocolate chip, green tea. That was a solid mint chocolate chip, a solid green tea. I know, I can tell you the rest of them. I know, it's just some green guy. We'll get hers when she's back here. You know an interesting one I sampled

that I thought was a unique flavor was French silk pie. Oh. Which is chocolate butter fudge ice cream with a graham cracker ripple and chips. Kind of like a, kind of reminded me of like the, you know, the Burger King pie you can get. And then the other one I remember now that Amelia got, this is, I pointed out problematic,

but it's called chocoholic chunk. Yeah, chocoholic chunk. So it is positive because it's representing chunks, but chocoholism is- It's a serious thing. It's not a joke. You know what I mean? Call, and hey, I know we're joking around here,

but if anybody listening here is dealing with chocoholism or someone in your life is dealing with chocoholism, just call 1-800-GAMBLER. Oh, someone will help you. Wise was a chocoholic for a while. Yeah. Now he's just addicted to sports betting. Use code DOBOY on DraftKings.

Get your first three parlays for free. When you were at your worst, when you were at your chocoholic worst, it was pretty bad. It was pretty bad. He came in here and he'd offer to suck my dick for chocolate. I was like, dude, don't, it's no big deal. I was just like, there's just chocolate in the bag.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you eat the chocolate, and you're like, I'm still down. I'm like, what are you talking about? And I was like, all right. And then we go in the- That salted caramel methadone clinic. And that's why we want less you're like, I'm still down. I'm like, what are you talking about? And I was like, all right. And then we go in the- That salted caramel methadone clinic. That's why we want less echoey bathrooms, Wags.

It's true. Making a whole scene in there. We go in, Wags and I go in the bathroom together, and then all of a sudden you hear, it's embarrassing. And then you hear me go, oh don't. We have to get to our final thoughts. We have to get to our final thoughts. We have to get to our final thoughts.

I like Amelia coming in having no context and then you guys just going, oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. Oh, Joe. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Mitch, new year, new you, what do you want your 2025 story to be? Wigs, I want my 2025 story to be the best me there can be.

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Rules and restrictions may apply. Anise, how the podcast works, we're each going to go around, we're going to give our final thoughts on the particular chain that we're discussing, Handles today. Amelia's last flavor was brownie dough, by the way. And give it a score from a zero to five forks. You are our guest, we'll begin with you. Your thoughts, your fork score for handles. Handles, creamery, I thought,

it was my first experience with it. I was impressed, I liked the branding, the service, like I said, a style of kind of a more classic, traditional American ice cream. I thought it had a good variety of flavors and I feel like I said, a style of kind of a more classic traditional American ice cream. I thought it had a good variety of flavors and I feel like I'll go back again. I'm gonna drop four forks. Four forks, very good score.

Four forks, good score. What do you think, Spoon Man? So this is the last thing I was gonna talk about here. You've been holding this out for a couple of hours. A couple of hours. This take. When I tried like the dark chocolate, the richer chocolates, I thought they were really good.

Yeah. Midnight madness. Midnight madness. I thought some of the lighter chocolates tasted a little bit more artificially kind of not as good to me. I was surprised that I did not like their brownie dough that much.

It felt just kind of like a weaker, maybe it's the cookie dough. It's ironic because you did like the actual brownie dough that much. It felt just kind of like a weaker, maybe it's the cookie dough. It's ironic because you did like the actual brownie. I liked the brownie that was under the thing, but I'm saying that there was something like, not saccharin, but there was just something that was kind of like sweet and cheap tasting with some of the, but that being said,

the orange cream, dream is fantastic. There's a lot of great flacid, There's a lot of great flas, flaccid. There's a lot of great classic flavors, but. When you get flaccid, oh, duh. There's a lot of great classic flavors, but. It happens to every guy, Mitch. I know that, it does. Cause women always reassure me

that it does happen to every guy. I, when it comes to the classic stuff, I think it's really, to reassure me that it does happen to every guy. When it comes to the classic stuff, I think it's really, I think that they do a really, really good job. I like the vibe of the place. If they had nailed a couple of those other flavors, I probably would go five forks. It was leaning five for me after day one,

but second time I kind of came down to earth. Four and a half spoons. Four and a half spoons, very good score. You know, it's Mitch Appreciation Day here on the Doughboys podcast. And also, this was not planned, but I think it's becoming Handel's Appreciation Day because I had-

Is Mitch has love handles that we all love to hear? He's a chunk, we love him. What the fuck? This isn't what the fuck. We love to handle your love. We need to get that hung. I got him too. Hey, go on.

Let he who's without sin cast the first stone. The let he who is without love handles cast the first stone. Well said. So anyway, a number of flavors is daunting. There's a lot of them, but I think the flavors were all good and every single one I had I enjoyed. Some of them I thought were stellar.

And I love ice cream. I'm a creamism, I'm a dairy dude. Ice cream is my favorite dessert. If I could only have one dessert, it would be ice cream. I think this is a great parlor that both operates in the world of classic creamery and the modern, more contemporary world of experimentation and riffing on the flavors we know and love.

And I think for that reason, I'm not going below five forks for handles. This is a five-fork experience as far as I'm concerned. Four and a half, five, we got the latter going. I actually didn't know you could do half things. I'm gonna re-re-read you to four and a half. You're going four and a half. You I'm concerned. Four and a half, five, we got the ladder going. I actually didn't know you could do half things. So I'm gonna re-re-re-re-re-re-do the four and a half. You're going four and a half. You're direct on the four and a half.

We're in the hand-holding club. What do we used to call that? What was the ladder thing we used to say? I think it was the ladder thing. You call it the ladder club. Stepping. Dare step, guys. I don't know.

We have ballpark buds, which we're also ballpark buds, or the same way we're ballpark buds. We're ballpark buds. But most crucially, handles is in the Golden Plate Club. Welcome to the Golden Plate Club, Handles. I think well deserved. Well deserved. The new kid on the block.

I was just, I was going to eat here with an open mind. I wasn't sure what to expect, and this place exceeded my expectations. I thought it was absolutely delightful. It's a welcome addition to the Southern California ice cream. 100%. It's a new kid on the block, but very old, very old spot.

Shout out to Oppie. I think that we can walk away with wise. Shout out to Oppie. Shout out to Oppie. I think that we can walk away. I call him Robert J, that's my guy. I think that we played by Robert, oh no, it wasn't played by Robert Downey Jr.

I was gonna say played by Robert Downey, but it's not. No. You played the gather guy in that movie. I think we can both walk away from this saying, oh, dough. Oh. I just like the idea of people listening to this and they're in their cubicle or something,

and it's like, if their headphones get unplugged, it's just like, oh, like us making those noises. I've had a Doughboyz pop out clip on my phone while I'm walking too loud. Wow. I think it happens to a lot of people. The podcast is horrible and people shouldn't listen to it. But then you just hear someone go like,

yeah, I just shoved a bunch of cookies down my throat. Like I was sucking a cock. I'm like, that's my friend, don't worry. This is my good friend. It's not a stranger saying that. Something I talk to and spend time with. It's crazy that when Oppenheimer witnessed the carnage that was the result of his invention

being foisted upon the world, he was said to have uttered, I have become death, destroyer of worlds. Oh, no. He was still horny? Yeah. I mean, he was horny. He was very horny.

That's a big one. He was horny. He's horny. He definitely did a couple of O'Dos. Hey it's time for a segment. What a great experience at Handles. Please shout out to Handles. We've got food stuff we're going to decide if you should put it in your mouth. It's Snack or Wack. And hey shout out to Amelia who is walking in. These Shackalicious

XL Gummies. Yes. Can I get a rebranding on it for today? Shack or Wack.ack or whack it is. Shack or whack it is. Are we guys, guys, question for the hosts? Yeah. Are we Shack and a Fool? I think we're Shack and a Fool.

We might be Shack and a Fool. We're Shack and a Fool. I think that's an intellectual property of Turner Media. Yeah. Shout out Turner Media, Atlanta Zone, hit me up. How, what is Turner Media, what are they gonna hit you up with? I don't know, maybe like invite me to inside.

Can I tell you a chain maybe like invite me to inside. Can I tell you a chain related story really quick? Please. The best birthday I've ever had was my 22nd birthday in Atlanta. I went to the Cheesecake Factory on Peachtree in Buckhead with my girlfriend at the time for dinner. I was sitting there having cheesecake factory.

I got a chicken and biscuits. I got an Oreo cheesecake, two of my favorite things. And in the middle of my dinner, the entire cast of Inside the NBA walked in. Wow! I'm talking Kenny the Jetsmith. I'm talking Sir Charles Barkley. I'm talking EJ, Ernie, and of course, Big Shaq, Diesel.

They all walked in. They sat down. They were kind of in a private area, but they're They all walked in. Wow. They sat down. They were kind of in a private area, but they're massive. So their heads shoved above the chairs. And then they sat down and immediately just plates of food. Plates of food just start rushing to the table. Best birthday ever.

There's no leftovers with those guys. Oh, no leftovers with those guys. Even at Cheesecake Factory. No, not at Cheesecake. NBA players love cheesecake. Was it just the four of them? I think they had like a bro or two, like, a couple of hangers on them.

Maybe Underdog was there. Wow. For the real Inside the NBA heads. That's cooler than any celebrity setting ever. I know, no, yeah. And I've seen Arnold Schwarzenegger, and that's better. Yeah.

You're a young man because Shaq was there on your 20. He was part of the NBA crew on their 22nd birthday. Yeah, his 22nd birthday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a young man. You remember there was that period where people were like, hmm, I don't know if Shaq's fitting in. And now, of course, he's an essential part of the crew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you a young man. You remember there was that period where people were like, hmm, I don't know if Shaq's fitting in. And now, of course, he's an essential part of the crew.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, you've got to see length. I mean, the real turning point. I mean, Barclay's my favorite. When Shaq fell down, when Shaq fell on the Christmas tree, that was one, two moments in my life I was blessed to be watching a live television broadcast. The Oscars Moonlight.

Oh, yeah. I had stopped watching the Oscars, went to In-N-Out, came back. I was like, I'll watch the end, saw that live. I, for whatever reason, immediately knew what was happening because when the guy came and whispered, I was like, oh, this is like if it was a pro wrestling story

and they fucked up the award. And then of course, Sack falling over a Christmas tree, one of the all-time great moments. Two great moments. I met the guy. But now I'm here with Sack and Lack. I met the La La Land producer who said, we lost, by the way.

I met him on the WJ picket lines. Oh very cool Yeah, he's like I don't like talking about it You know who was ten feet away from all that our good buddy Jack Allison, oh, that's right. He was writing for it Yep, okay the shack alicia's xl Gummies shack alicia's xl gummies bring Shaquille O'Neal's big personality to life in each tasty bite. Amelia, thank you for picking these up. I know you had made a couple of trips. While we're cracking into these bad boys,

what were your thoughts on Handles? You made a couple trips for these? I'm so sorry. I went to a couple grocery stores, but we got the goods. Yeah, because one of them just had the sour. Yeah, they were sold out of the non-sour, so I had to make another trip.

I really enjoyed Handel's. Handels. Handels. I think it's Handel. You should have gotten the guy from Veep on the show and you could have had Handel's with Dave Mandel's. That would have been fun. I think it's more fun to have you though. Yeah.

I would rather be Dave Mandel, the guy who worked on Seinfeld and has a lot of money. My shows were on streaming, I didn't get residuals. I got the four scoop sampler. Yeah. Was really impressed with every flavor. The mint chocolate chip had that thing that you were just talking about, Mitch, where there was some sort of aspartame-y-ness to it, but it was very slight and it didn't ruin it for me.

Green tea, one of the better green tea ice creams I've ever had. Wow. Yeah. So. Yu Song would be in hog heaven. Yeah, he would. Rest in power.

Rest in power, Yu Song, the ghost of Yu Song. Did I do die? If I were to give it a rating, I would probably give it five stars Amelia I'm gonna need you to take your things and also return the cat to me She can say these are these are these are big gummies these are these these some bitches are are huge. Also, I want to say this. Do you know when they make a statue of someone, it's a really bad statue.

That's what Shaq's face looks like on each of the lightnesses. I was actually at the unveiling of Shaq's statue at previously discussed Crypto.com, which was super sick because they had a whole festival, like a carnival outside the arena. It was called Sha Shaq Fest. And they had all his trophies and shit out there. But yeah, there's two skews here.

There's this one that looks like his head. And then if you can read the back of this one, Mitch, there's three different shapes. Diesel, which is a truck. They call him Shaq Diesel. The big cactus, like Shaq, Shaqtus. And then the big shamrock, which he was his Celtic, his Celtic role.

That's true. Which I think he even makes, he even gives a hard time to his time in the Celtics. This is very funny, Brenning. Here's my thing with the main gummies, they're almost, the consistency is almost like Swedish fish instead of a gummy. They are.

One is like, the heads are like Swedish fish, and then the other ones are kind of a SPK, Sour Patch Kid. I wonder if they like to get to this size and form factor, if they have to alter the texture a little bit to have them hold together. I have no idea. I don't think that's true. More gelatin or something? I don't know. No! You can get, you can have big gummies? I mean, the head shape is closer to a Swedish fish, then.

Oh god, this is a fucking, an old sugar day so far. I'm gonna feel fucking like shit. I will say, I mean a couple of things. One, you know, Shaq does have fun with branding. I mean he had his like Shaq keys for a while. Yeah, Shaq's Big Chicken, which we reviewed. It's Papa John's partnership obviously. Uh, yeah, he's the president of Papa John's.

I actually like the Chacaroni pizza. It's just kind of like a loaded pepperoni pizza, but it's like a good price, fun scale. These are solid. This one just tastes like a regular sweetest fish. And I would say the Sour Patch Kid one, I like this berry. And it has a pretty good sour, like not too much, not too little.

My fucking teeth, I just got them cleaned. This is bad for your teeth. I don't even have my headphones on and I can hear the like macking what's up with sour is this just micro plastics yeah I don't know I don't feel like any of this is good if you remember you definitely do not want this absolutely cannot have that there's no situation in which you'll enjoy this I disagree with you I don't think these are good I I didn't say I said they're fine. Hmm

Oh fuck They're sour as fuck. They're really sour Which I like I'm struggling to take for both of them. I'm kind of struggling to get through one I know we had ice cream earlier, but I've tried to one of each one. That's my big you know what there I think they're too big. I understand the shackq XL gummies branding. Obviously Shaq is a large man. Maybe it's just not for us. I think this is the thing.

I don't know if the large gummies have a place. I need a sour candy the size of a small child, not of a seven foot basketball player. Right. Mm-hmm. And look, I'm on the record. I'm a gummy skeptic. I say gummy ain't yummy.

I'm still coming into these with an open mind. I'm a gummy. I love gummy. You love gummy. I'm a gummy skeptic. I say gummy ain't yummy. I'm still coming into these with an open mind I'm a gummy. I love gummy. You love gummy. I'm a gummy dabbler. I dabble with gummy These are just These are Gemini, why does Jimmy want these so bad? She wants the shack of them more than she's wanted anything on the show ever I don't think I would buy I think so

Besides they maybe look like dog treats or something if I had like some kind of I wouldn't want anything on the show ever. I wouldn't think I would buy- Are those the sour ones that she got excited for? I think so. I'm gonna sniff one. Besides like- They maybe look like dog treats or something. If I had like- Smells like shit. Some kind of party for like the basketball event, like maybe I'd get some shat gummies and throw them out, but otherwise I'm not really going back.

I don't really, you know what problem I have? Is that I have insomnia and anxiety and other things that I manage with gummy medication. So I take a gummy, basically a sour gummy candy every night before bed. So it's like, I'm already eating that one gummy. I'm not really trying to eat gummies on my free time. Yeah, no, I got some insomnia issues.

I'm using my CPAP again, Wags. And I watched, but you know what? I got trapped last night. That chunk pap? That's the chunk pap. I was, uh, a full metal jacket was on. Oh man, all timer. Yeah. So I watched some, you know, speaking of chunk kings, private pile.

Pile. Private pile, the fat guy in that is my goal weight. It's crazy how like what the, what the standards for a fat person have become over time. So much so that you watch and you're like, how wasn't he? He was doing pretty well. He was doing pretty good, yeah. I mean, he just broke mentally.

But also, you know the theory that private pile is just, like, one part of it's, like, Joker's childhood? Have you heard of this theory? What? That private pile is like the death of Joker's childhood. Like, does private pile even exist is the question. Interesting. that Private Pile is like the death of Joker's childhood. Like does Private Pile even exist is the question. Interesting. Which, you know.

It's another podcast. I would definitely blow my head. Is Shaq even really here? Does Shaq even exist? Was Susser really with us? Was Susser really there or did you eat a lot more ice cream than you thought? Mitch, you talked about your CPAP mask,

just while we're talking about this, because I have an article from 2015 of the top 50 Shaq endorsements so that the list is grown is grown. The generals got to be in there. The general is definitely in here. But you know, kind of kind of a crusty the clown type figure will put his name on to anything. I have gummy in my beard. This is awful. If you were if you were to my teeth, if you went to boot camp, would you private pile yourself? You would. Yeah, day one.

Um, the, uh, Shaq's, uh, Shaq has a CPAC mask. The Shaq Sleep Apnea mask. That's pretty good. You think he still sells them? I wonder if it's comfy. If it's comfy, I'll get one for sure. I think it may be for a bigger guy. What else?

He's got a sugar substitute. Shirts. Yeah. Shoes you can get at Walmart. What is this sugar substitute? It's like Stevia. Radio Shack, Superman, Zales, Soda Shack. I forgot about Soda Shack.

Soda Shack was the iced teas. They were pretty popular. I didn't mind Soda Shack. We didn't like Big Chicken. I- I like the name. I like the name. I like the name. I don't think it's a good chain.

I mean, it's kind of on the way out now. They closed the one down here. The Big Shamrock was my favorite of all the gummies. The regular gummies, too much like Swedish Fish. I like Swedish Fish, but I just think the regular gummies were not great. It's like you put five Swedish Fish in your mouth at once, though.

Yes. It's not like you're snacking. I would give it maybe a slight whack or maybe the slightest snack, but I think I'm going to go slight whack. The sours were better, but still close to a slight whack, slight snack maybe. I'm just going to go, I'm going to go slight snack just because I do like the idea that they're bigger gummies, at least has a gimmick. They're kind of fun. That is fun.

They didn't taste astringently bad. And the best tasting one? The big Shamrock wags. Did you have one? My favorite was the Shamrock, yeah. Kind of a sour apple, I liked it. Yeah, yeah. I think it was watermelon.

Watermelon, yeah, yeah. The Shaq obviously had the video game Shaq-Fu, his Taco Bell endorsements, his Pepsi endorsements, Icy Hot, you know, and Reebok was a big one back in the day. I love Shack. Let's get Mitch some Icy Hot. I love Icy Hot. Hey, this is Mitch Appreciation Week.

Let's get Mitch some Icy Hot. His back must hurt from carrying this podcast. Mitch. Wow. I like that a lot. From carrying that fucking huge hog. So if any listener. Woo. Well it's not.

Mitch appreciation day, he's got a big dick. It's not lie to Mitch day. You don't have to say untruths. You got a permit for that thing? It is. Beep, beep, beep. That's back in the day. Very small beeps I was trying to do. They see Mitch's hog and beep, beep. That's backing it up. Very small beeps I was trying to do.

They see Mitch's hog and go, oh. Go. I love Shaq. Shaq is one of my favorite athletes, great media personality. I love that he has fully embraced who he is. I even kind of love the kind of carny aspect of like he just has all of these.

He owns it. He owns these. He owns it. He owns it. And, but all that said, like with our big chicken review, I am not afraid to hold him to account when it is necessary. And I think this is a case where I understand the branding. I do not think these are good gummies. I would go a mild wax with a heavy heart that I give these a whack.

We love Shaq. We want it to be good. We're all pretty similar. We're all in this zone. This is the snack and whack. Chasm. We're right here, we're all right here. We're in the same sort of standard.

It's mid, it's mid. It took Shaq a minute to fit in on Inside the NBA. It's true, it did. Yeah, it took him a minute. I mean, it took you a couple years to fit in on this podcast. That's not wrong. I think it took a couple years

for both of us to fit in on this podcast. What are we thinking over at the producer's desk? Any takes on these big gummies? Anyone try them? I think I like the sour ones better than the plain ones. That's definitely. But I don't think I'll ever buy them. Yeah.

Amelia, how does it feel now tasting these gummies that were a pain in the ass to get? I didn't. Do you not like gummy? Not really. Well, I'm somewhere in between gummy, yummy and I dabble. Yeah, sure. I just didn't feel like eating this

after eating ice cream. That's also, the ice cream is on top of it, but still it's been a couple hours. The ice cream was like good sugar that was like, felt like worth it. This feels not worth the calories. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I don't love this lingering taste in my mouth. Yeah, you don't like my water for my Stanley. Correct. Amelia doesn't like soda which was honestly has relationship suffered our Relationship suffered because yes, how can you not like an ice cold coke? McDonald's Sprite? No, I haven't had it. Have you ever had Cheerwine? It's a cherry here why a cherry soda you never had McDonald's right never had McDonald's right?

Oh, it's a little bit the fish It's a little bit the fizz, but it's also the sweetness you find overpowering you just don't like liquid calories You don't like sugary drinks. It's it's too sweet. What do you do? You have a cocktail? What do you like to drink? You're some something alcohol mojito a mojito. That's far Man, I got a soda you'd like probably like mojito. A mojito, that's far. Ooh, like mint. Ooh, man, I got a soda you'd like probably. You'd like mojito. Show me, show me. What is it?

It's like a Dr. Pepper, not Dr. Pepper lime. I think, yeah, I think it's like a Dr. Pepper with lime twist. Wow. Ooh, interesting. It's like with a vanilla lime twist or something. We'll talk. I'm a little disappointed about it.

We never got into this. Actually, we'll talk about it on the live. I still feel like I have fucking gum in about it. We never got into this. Actually, we'll talk about it on the live show. I still feel like I have fucking gum in my mouth. You're fine. Just like a restaurant, I value your feedback. Let's open the feedback. Today's email is from Diana. Diana writes, I worked at a bowling alley in Philly

for eight years. Wow. In one of our leagues, a bowler was widely known for being the creator of the Choco Taco. Wow. Whoa. Whether it be myth or fact, we love that this bowler used his snack stardom to ask her an extra turkey shot

or two whenever he bowled three strikes in a row. My question is, if you could go down in history as being the famed creator of any food, what food would that be? Second question, who amongst the dough crew do you think is the best bowler? Now, this I think we have an answer to, because, Casey, you're a bit of a lanesman, is that correct?

I don't know what you're talking about. Are you in a league? You're a league? Casey, you're not a roller? I think we're in a league. We've never talked bowling and no. You're a league? No, I don't.

Yes sir, you don't roll league, okay. No. Also, I kicked your ass bowling. I know, I know you beat me. I would say like of us, it's you. I called you pure power because you were just bowling strikes. I'm loving that name.

Hey, that's the real Hurricane Mitch on them legs. Pure Power is great. Yeah. Pure Power. Here's my question. He would get an- You're not a bowl, I thought you were a big time bowler. I know. No.

It's the Western way. I think I've been telling people Casey's a great bowler. It's the Western way. Where are you from? I thought you were just guessing I bowled, but no, I don't. What about me, who you bowled with, and I kicked your ass?

I know, but I feel like we had like yes But you also you like me were just kind of like I'm blowing the wild you kind of step down there You were nuts And then I just had like a flash memory of Casey talking about getting his own bowling ball, but it must have been someone else Yeah, what was that? You don't do league it was a studio studio You're not Alan when we did Bolero. No wasn't Alan you at one case he's a good boy

He's just lying My question is an extra shot when you get a turkey, which, when you get a turkey, that's a fun to do that. That's not like a shot of Wild Turkey the Bourbon. No, I believe it's like, you get to roll another one if you mess it up. But I think that, doesn't that- So is he like being like, guys, you mind if I run it back?

Yeah, that's how you have to- I think it's gotta be it. You get an extra shot or two. After three strikes, is it like he's so on fire, he doesn't wanna stop? Cause isn't a turkey three strikes? It's three in a row. And maybe he's so on fire he doesn't want to stop? Cause isn't a turkey three strikes? It's three in a row. And maybe he's just like,

I want to throw another one cause it feels so good. I think what it is is I think actually what I'm reading between the line, I think he is, he is saying that he, wait, hold on. What is that? What the fuck does this mean? I can't parse this. Diana!

We love that this bowler used his snack stardom to ask for an extra turkey shot or two whenever he bowled three strikes in a row. Three strikes is a turkey. Three strikes already is a turkey. So I thought he was getting a mulligan, he was getting another attempt at getting a turkey. I think that's what it means.

Okay. That's how I interpret it. Or he's just like showing off like real hard. It is fun to make the turkey noise when you get a turkey. I mean, choco taco is a great idea. Choco taco is a great idea. But also being the creator of the Big Mac. Well, this is old-

Damn, bro wants to be the founder over here. I mean, the founder did not create the Big Mac, just so you know. That's true. He didn't create McDonald's either. Yeah. The Big Mac or Cool Ranch Doritos. Oh man. You know what I- Coca-Cola?

I don't think I ever told you that my- Coca-Cola's pretty good. My alpha My alpha brother Nate went to college with a, with his, his friend, his mom, my brother's friends, college friend's mom was a marketing person at Frito-Lay who came up with Cool Ranch. That the flavor, not the flavor, but the phrase. When's her movie? I know.

I guess Flamin' Hot lit up. There'd be a movie about that lady. Cool Ranch, that is pretty cool, right? Cool Ranch is pretty sick. Yeah. I Ranch, that is still pretty fucking cool. Cool Ranch is pretty sick. Yeah. I think my answer is Coke. The best beverage.

What if that becomes a monkey's paw, and you say that, and then you're a chemist in the 1800s? Oh, man. Working at a pharmacy. Am I as smart as the... Well, I'm wondering. There's a lot of things that go into this, but there'd be no air conditioning so I'm done

I wouldn't I wouldn't time travel If I time traveled back to before AC I would stay in the DeLorean where there was AC No AC would suck AC's pretty recent, bro. I know so I'm west it was a good they never refrigeration either So it was like there's no AC so a lot of shit. They're drinking room- beer. Also, all period stuff, it's like, oh, it just smelled bad. It smelled so bad. It smelled like shit. I don't want to go back in time. Dark Brown's a fucking idiot. Great fried chicken though. He does have a good fried chicken.

If you go down in history as being the fame creator of any food, what food would that be? Now look, I have created a food, the Nick Weiger. It's a perfected Arnold Palmer. Oh my god. But if it's going to be something else. Those are also, I just want, not to be, those are beverages, you know what I mean? That's true, it's a perfected Arnold Palmer. But if it's going to be something else. Those are also, I just want, not to be, those are beverages, you know what I mean? That's true, that's true. You know what I mean?

So we have to go to food. Coke would be my answer, because I'm just like, the best beverage to me is Coke. Here's the thing I was gonna say. I like a thing like a Caesar salad, like not like the star, not like a thing everyone thinks about, but everyone's like, oh yeah, I like a Caesar salad.

And if you were the guy who made the Caesar salad, who was, I believe, a guy named Caesar, like that's kind of- Mexico, it was great. Yeah, that's like, that's like kind of a fun- That's why we gotta go to Mexico! So I'm trying to think of something on that. This guy's trying to steal that, but that's fine. What are you talking about? You're trying to steal it from the guy in Mexico.

I know, I did! White guy trying to steal the idea from a Mexican. This is not cultural appropriation. I was using it as an example of the kind of food that I would be looking at. All right, well guess what? I'll tell you some fun cultural appropriation. I'm stealing pizza from the Italians.

Eat shit, Italians. It's mine now, mamma mia. That's right, I got pizza. That's what I would take, come on. Pizza's good. Wow, pizza is a good one. What if you were like the first person who ever fried chicken? That's good I would take. Come on. Pizza's good. Pizza is a good one. What if you were like the first person who ever fried chicken?

That's good. That's really good. That's so sober. It's like that happened across like so many. I know. It's hard to be famous for it. Here's a specific one that would just be fun. What if I invented waffle fries?

I love that. That's what I'm talking about. I like that it's something that existed and I was like, how do we make this better? Yeah. Waffle fries are fun. Sandwich, that's Choco Taco. It's like ice cream was good, but it's like, how do we make this better? Yeah. Waffle fries are fun. Sandwich, that's Choco Taco. It's like ice cream was good,

but it's like, how do we make this more fun and interesting? Yeah, that's a blast. Papa Mia. We're giving it back to the boys. Papa Mia, we say from here on out. Here's a, Papa Mia? We're giving it back to the boys. We're taking it back for the boys.

Papa Mia instead of Mama Mia is what we say now. Oh, for the fellas. Yeah, we're doing it for the fellas now. Go ahead, Wags. Men's rights, Papa now. Oh, for the fellas. Yeah, we're doing it for the fellas now. Go ahead, Wags. Men's rights, Papa Mia. No, not men's rights. Wait, I thought that's why you wanted to take the mom out.

We're black-pilled, Papa Mia. I have an answer, and my answer is, along the lines of waffle fries, something that I just think is fun, and something that's fun to be like, hey, you're the guy who made that, the bread bowl. Soup in a bread bowl. Bread bowl's good. How fun is a bread bowl?

You know what, another one, I wouldn't pick this, but just throw, if you were the guy, I would love to be the guy who made the Crunchwrap Supreme. Yeah, wow. You know what, you just inspire me, cheesy gordita crunch. Ooh, that's good. There we go. That's a good one. That's a good one.

Cheesy gordita crunch is my answer. Game changers. I know where the producers- These are all game changers. And there would be AC when it was I know what I was gonna say. These are all game changers. And there would be AC when it was created, so I'd be okay. Anyone over at the producer's desk, a guy got a food they wish they could put their name on,

they could claim as their own? I mean, I just learned recently that chicken tenders originated in Manchester, New Hampshire. Oh yeah. Far from where I'm from. So maybe instead of fried chicken, I'll take chicken tenders. Yeah, chicken tendies is good,

because that's like a chicken, I'll take chicken tenders. Yeah, taking tendies is good, because that's specific. I like that. Amelia, would you choose Shack Gummies? I was actually going to say Shack Gummies. What? They were Shack's head. What'd she say? That's in the movie, the hard cut to a guy in a suit.

What'd she say? She's white? Oh, she's white. Dang, that's a real good idea for gummies. She's white. She's white? If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at feedback at birdfuck.com or leave us a voicemail at 830-GO-DOE. That's 830-463-6844. And hey, to get the Dough Boys double our weekly bonus episode plus our entire pre-2018 back catalog, subscribe at patreon.com slash doughboys.

Our producers Emma Erdbrink, our social media partners, and our And hey, to get the Doughboys double our weekly bonus episode plus our entire pre-2018 back catalog, subscribe at patreon.com slash doughboys. Our producers Emma Erdbrink, our associate producers Amelia Marino, our engineers Casey Donahue, our video editor is Mike Dorfman, our guest Aniz Adaman. Sorry. Thanks so much for joining us. What a hoot. Thanks guys. How fun was this?

Thanks guys. Happy to get scoops. Great spot. Happy to get scoops with the guys. It's going to go wild this summer. It's going to be out of control. It's gonna be popping off this summer. You heard it here first. Anise later in 2025, Good Fortune is releasing. Yes, our feature film, Good Fortune,

is coming out next October. Please go see it. This October. This October, oh yeah, your jump, your jump. This year, mark it on your calendars. 10, 17, 25, Good Fortune in theaters. It's an epic comedy. It's got Seth Rogen.

It's got Keanu Reeves. Wow. It's, I'm very proud of the film. Comedies are back. Comedies are back. I mean, one thing, me and Mitch, I talk to Mitch a lot, and one thing Mitch is always saying is,

where's the comedies? Yeah. Where's the comedies in theaters? That's true. He was fucking saying it last week. That's true. And I'm trying, Mitch. Thank you, I appreciate you trying.

Also, you know what? It's a birthday movie for me, just 11 days after my birthday. Maybe I'll see if I'm happy. Oh yeah, run out of theater. I love it, I might, I just might. I need to think of something, anything else you wanna plug?

Loot Seasons one and two are streaming on Apple TV Plus. I think it's like $4.99 to get Apple TV Plus. I have a lot of friends in my life who are like, I don't have Apple TV, just pay it, man. Watch that show. I think there's a Godzilla show on there. Season three is on the way. Thank you.

There you go. And also I'm just gonna plug the Reddit. The Reddit is good now. That about does it for the show. You know what? I wanna see a Mitch appreciation thread on the Reddit. There should be a Mitch appreciation days thread on the Reddit.

Purely wholesome, purely positive. That thread is gonna become a nightmare. They're gonna fight with each other like never before. And then honestly, go to handles, get a scoop and tell Mitch send you. There you go. I like that. And hey, there's only one more thing we can say, Wags. Oh, dough.

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