Doughboys - Harold's Chicken Shack with Jacquis Neal

Episode Date: January 16, 2020

Actor/comedian Jacquis Neal (UCB, Culture Kings podcast) joins the boys to discuss cruise ship food and review Chicago's famed Harold's Chicken Shack. Plus, a new edition of Chips Inhale: Res-Chew Rangers, and a surprise drop-in from a special ghost!Sources for this week's intro:The First Family of Fried Chicken by Mike Sulahttps://www.chicagoreader.com/pdf/060414/060414_harolds.pdfChicken King Harold P. Pierce, 70 by Kenan Heisehttps://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1988-03-11-8804060325-story.htmlChicago’s Harold’s Chicken Shack: History Behind the Taste by Tourehttp://blackchicagoeats.com/haroldschickenshack/Laverne Burnett, a link to early days of Harold’s Chicken chain, has died at 83 by Maureen O'Donnellhttps://chicago.suntimes.com/2018/9/18/18354480/laverne-burnett-a-link-to-early-days-of-harold-s-chicken-chain-has-died-at-83Smokin' Chokin' and Chowing with the King from ChiBBQKinghttp://chibbqking.blogspot.com/2008/11/fried-chicken-king.html?m=1Harold's Chicken - About Ushttp://haroldschickenonline.com/#about_usWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

this is a headgum podcast previously on do boys sus thank you thank you the end of the year here big-time huge part of the team and of course Emma thank you so much for everything you do for us we could not do the show without you we really mean that and and you song a special drop in you song yeah yeah good to see you thanks for letting me hang out for a little bit thank you for everything you've done for dough boys and continue to do we're happy we're very we're very proud of you we miss you being around lately thanks oh well like I guess this is the right time to say it like working for you guys for so long

has always been hey the lights went out weird oh my god you songs been shot oh my god oh my god Chicago food is often compartmentalizes topping loaded hot dogs casserole thick pizza and sopping wet beef sandwiches but just as much a part of the second city's culinary identity comes via a chain of eponymous fried chicken shacks founded in 1950 by Harold Pierce in the historically black Southside neighborhood Pierce had a leg up on his competition by using a mixture of beef tallow and vegetable oil as cooking liquid and by employing the time and labor intensive practice of frying to order a practice that continues

to this day his mild sauce doused breaded bird met a salivating audience and recognizing the predominantly black areas ignored by the big players in the fast food boom pierce savally expanded within the Southside becoming a neighborhood and later a citywide institution as his chain became a financial success Pierce acquired an unmistakable vehicle a white Cadillac fashion to look like a chicken complete with a paper mache chicken head which contrasted with his understated mild manner demeanor Pierce passed away in 1988 but the business remained a family one today operated by his daughter

Kristen Pierce Sherrod and its imprint on the Southside of Chicago is indelible much like fat burger and LA hip-hop the chain became a go-to reference for Chicago area rappers Chance the rapper common Kanye and Kendrick Lamar among those who've given the eatery a shout out in their verses and in a 2008 60 minutes interview reflecting on Barack Obama's old apartment on the Southside Michelle Obama remarked quote that was a dump to which the soon-to-be-president replied quote oh come on it wasn't that bad I lived right next door to a heralds this week on dough boys heralds chicken shack

welcome to dough boys the podcast about chain restaurants I'm Nick Weigar alongside my co-host bearded Richard Jewel the Spoonman Mike Mitchell all right that was courtesy of Foster Ryan Foster writes great movie really liked it was wondering if Mitch was ever considered for the lead love the show roast moonman at gmail.com if you have an insult you like me as a Mitch at the top of the show was never considered for the lead no I didn't audition or anything for I don't know if if if Paul Walter Hauser who was really good in the movie yeah well he was snubbed right well maybe we we we we're gonna

get snubbed we should we got to introduce our guest and then we'll talk about that we'll talk about that in a minute because I think that our guest has some room or talk some Oscar stuff but I'll tell you what I think about I'll say this going into yes this this will be the only thing I'll say before we talk about Oscar stuff is that Paul Walter Hauser you know like he's another big man yes and so going into it I'm like a man this big man who's gonna steal hold steal who's gonna win all these roles that I try to go out for in the next there only so many yeah there only so so many big guy roles out

there so there's not many guy roles because a lot of big guy roles are like you know the dumb friend who got his hand stuck in a pickle jar it's rare that you get to like carry a movie is this what are you talking about I only watch it I don't I don't watch talkies only our guest did a great demonstration of what that scene would look like but I so I went in feeling not not you know I'm never competitive I never usually care about that stuff but I was like man this guy's gonna get everything went in there he does Paul Walter Hauser I don't know if you listen to the podcast but he did he did a great

job I honestly thought I'm gonna see it hurt and you know what it's that sort of thing of I gotta be rooting for the big guy good but the good great job Paul Walter Hauser you should have been nominated for an Oscar you truly should big guy solidary big guy solidary he killed it he did a great job I'll say this because I've heard this movie is great I still haven't seen it I want to do they get into because this was a thing about Richard Jule in the news he had a huge porn collection knew that you're gonna ask this question they do they delve into his big collection of porno's they don't really talk about it

too much yeah no they don't like there's not a segment where they like watch one of his points just like soft core he was into some basic shit it was apparently though but the whole thing there is that like it was like a huge invasion of his privacy because he was like yeah he's a single guy lives with his mom he's gonna have some fucking porno's to fucking jack off to yeah just like you don't just need to have that aired on the nightly news Doth depressed oh god

Doth depressed too much that's it that's the quote yeah good job look it's the first I just got back here weger we yes we're gonna introduce our desk at first I can say how to spoon nation I'll play a little I'm a little embarrassed to I mean it's been a while why you're always embarrassed here we go here's a little drop yes this is going to makes no sense what is this ship god who knows our cares I like it shut up you know that that's bullshit I can see you're laughing shut up oh that's such bullshit star killer base is trash this is such trash right here within this 30

seconds Nick I mean this is just such trash this is so stupid Nick that's bad it's a bad it's bad yeah it's bad here I'll give you the fucking drop okay free fuck the dole boy that's pretty good classic well well done Mitch your opinions your Star Wars opinion showcased in this Mitch your Star Wars opinions showcased in this drop it's just from Matt recently this in honor of Rise of Skywalker Skywalker what's Matt's last name I don't know who shampoo their tweet at me today they were they were saying that they were casting freaks for the new Lord of the

Rings show and he added me below that news article that piece of shit he fucking added me why would you be a freak you'd just be like a dwarf right oh thanks Weiger I would just be like a dwarf yeah you'd be one of the dwarf guys really big bearded guy well you didn't get to have like a yeah he was he was saying I'd be like an orc or a cave troll was basically what shampoo they were saying I mean you get that too he's a piece of shit but I don't know who I don't Matt didn't give any credits besides just Matt okay well he knows who he is he knows what he did oh Matt de Marzio he did say his last name Matt de Marzio

anyways I got back from the we got to introduce our guest let's introduce our guest the way you get into it yeah he's an actor and comedian from Liza on demand and he's one of the hosts of the podcast Culture Kings which you can now find on earwolf Jackie's Neil is here hi Jackie hey what's up guys how you doing thank you for making time for us this was we clapped for you you know you might have gotten the first applause for a guest introduction thank you so much yeah that's that you're you're a good guest not like I fucking trash I even got a clap over Carl Tartt we did we don't clap for Carl we didn't clap for tarot

no tarot Jesus Christ oh boy Doth depressed too much yeah there you go yeah yeah I didn't know if I was supposed to like say anything during that during the intros there but I had I had comments I had comments please I know it's protest too much it's protest too much but that's okay I mean I just couldn't get it out that's the issue that's that's that's a bit look I finished filming the movie yet the I'm back from the movie Nick for good we're back on we're back on track you're on you're on like three hours of sleep right now yes and I and also you just you flew back from Atlanta this morning yeah I got you just got back

today yeah I got back today I landed at twig I woke up at 6 30 a.m. a.m. east coast time east coast time very hungover got you back here the like to the airport and then as your usual routine you went straight from LAX to a fried chicken restaurant which we're doing today yes you know what you know we call you in my neck of the woods was that a hero call you a hero man yeah we call you eat shit Richard that's the real Richard you a poor guy for clarification question yeah yeah when you say start with it Lord of the Rings looking for freaks are they do you mean like sex freaks or do you mean like are they

looking for people who like you know face down ass up freaks or are they looking for just like hunchbacks and specifically reaching out to the BDSM fetish community I think they're looking for maybe if maybe this Lord of the Rings is horny it's a horny Lord of the yes yes yes I would see it then I've never seen any Lord of the Rings movie the one ring to room all is what it's a dick ring I mean I think they're 15 years too late they should have did that in the 2000 does that in the original maybe I would have watched it maybe they would have got the one of you that they were seeking have you not watched any of

the Lord of the Rings movie not a single wow they're really I they're really really good I enjoy them that's what people tell me I'm not into fantasy even though I watched all of Game of Thrones interesting but and then it got to a point where I was just like you want me to watch how many of them was it like four five there were there were three in the initial trilogy and then they made three Hobbit movies which you can safely ignore but if you like them you can watch them you want me to watch three three hour long movies I'm good wow I'm good so now it's the point of principle I've never seen any Harry Potter movie

never seen any Lord of the Rings you truly I feel like you don't have to see the Harry Potter movies is that yeah I don't know I don't know Mars is Mars is putting her head back and forth right I love that fantasy world I subscribe to that fantasy I want to live in it you want to live at Hogwarts by the way people are people are asking you know where's you song where's Emma first off you songs dead we already answered the light and the finale of last and Emma's fired Emma's yeah she's on probation okay but Marissa from head gum is here today hello what's up filling in so you're a Harry Potter enthusiast I never

read the books but I like the movies yeah see that's my type of person like if I'm gonna I've never read the books either and I don't feel that like they're gonna make any book that's worth it into a movie so just watch the movie just watch the movie I know somebody out there is upset that I just said that but fuck you just watch the movie it's gonna be better it's gonna be visual you can get some act you get people who can work the selfish authors only right for themselves but a movie employs hundreds of people you know I'm for the people I'm for the people well you're not gonna be surprised to hear that I'm a hundred

percent behind this day I say throw the books away throw the books away write them turn them into a script and throw the books away don't let anyone see him ever they're gone at that point the Lord the Lord of the Rings I mean I try to read Lord I when I was in college my freshman year of college yes I had Lord of the Rings the the book the the big old book the one volume that's all three I had that at one point yes I started to get into it I was like this is too much and I was just like and it was just like a hobbit's bowl is made of whatever would and I was like this fucking fuck this shit I'm not gonna read about the

bowl well you mentioned you mentioned Game of Thrones and I read some I read the first Game of Thrones well the first song of ice and fire book excuse me I'm sorry for the pedantic people out there online which is called Game of Thrones I read that and I was just like it's the same sort of shit it's just like they're at the Night's Watch and it's describing like and they had many types of bread in their pantry rye bread you skip add five pages like baguettes bagels croissants a new garlic bread and you want to hear about this new garlic one thing that I'd read about is

this new garlic bread and they just go over the gloss over it so it's just you know there's some cool like there's there's cool shit in it obviously it's like a cool story but then there's what there's just like these long like me entering sections of detail and and scene building but then there's also like anytime there's like a sex scene I just couldn't couldn't not think of George R. R. Martin writing it just this like big like horny bearded guy with a with an Admiral's hat writing about like a teenage girl getting fingered I was just like this is fucking because it's graphics right. I mean you not wrong. Yeah

I think Jack Allison share with us the who's the who's the guy Sam because he's just like Sam wise oh yeah so much. Yeah no but no that's Sam wise is Laura the rings look also people are gonna get mad that I Sam well is it Sam well tar is it Tarlia but they like I think he sent us this section of the book where it's like his plump pink erection like and I was like fucking disgusting like why is the character that like he thinks he is too on top of it I feel like he oh yeah 100% or maybe he thinks he's like the one of the brave characters who knows what he thinks his plump pink erect is that how white

penis is look is that is that how y'all describe it and my plump pink erection. I don't think I come on plump. Why I got a homesick candle here. It's a Massachusetts. It's supposed to smell like Massachusetts. Oh how about that which part I don't know the whole I think all of Massachusetts. I thought that you I thought he was gonna come in with some fucking stupid answer about how would smell but I was going to say that I just it you haven't been like it's not like you've been away from home for very long like you just got back like were you just home for like 20 days three weeks yeah I was there you're home for

three weeks how long have you been back in LA what would it like eight hours now you're in a Massachusetts. I've been back I've been back I've been back six hours okay I mean six hours is a is a long time is long enough to forget how your home stuff yeah have you guys seen the Gwen Gwyneth Paltrow vagina candle yes coming out really is a is a candle that's supposed to smell like her vagina like Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina yeah wow which what great marketing look great marketing because somebody gonna smell and if you like I don't believe her vagina smell like that nobody's gonna say that right so you can make a

smell however you want that's a good point you can make a smell however you want smells like a bag of chili cheese free does she get some hygiene issues that coop ain't working that goof is not working I'm at Gwyneth Paltrow's door with a bouquet of flowers hello Gwyneth I heard your vagina smells like chili I it smells like it's it smells like like donuts it's supposed to like that's what it's supposed to smell like kind of like cinnamon dough yeah also we should announce the Mitch Dick candles coming out from doughboys productions the size of a birthday candle to scale and it stinks like shit I want to say that

that yes I've been the movie wrapped yesterday just being able not to speak in the last 24 hours right the producers were like hey good job like you were funny in the movie and I was like yeah until like a test audience sees it and and all my lines fall flat and then they just stared at me and I was like why did I just say this thing why did I say that to them doubt creeping in I couldn't I couldn't just say thank you I couldn't say I so I haven't been able to talk for a good 48 hours all right you're in your head about that and then the director was there and he was like I'll cut you out that's what he said and I was like god

damn it the fuck what am I doing I just needed the permission man I want you to feel bad if you feel that way then you go anyways I might not be in the movie now we'll see what happens congrats by the way thank you congrats yeah we're back to normal here though now we're back we're doing the show again we're back to normal and hey Mitch we should talk about a happier subject because you guys have something in common you're both cat parents we're telling you for the show started I was there was some confusion because weigur I didn't know if you were allergic to cats because maybe you thought that because it wasn't

there a text about that or something I don't remember okay but but but now that you're a cat I love this I had no idea I'm a cat not only a cat parent but you have a you have a tuxedo I have one tuxedo cat and one all black cat which is just a little less white yeah but they're mostly they're too like mostly black cats and Ziggy is a tuxedo cat and I love it you got two tuxedo cats I love them and I loved them as soon as I saw them and they liked me they did while he was very afraid he's a he's afraid of all males he does he's he's always gets intimidated by men was sniffed you and that that is out of this

world he'll usually be squirming to get away if there's a if there's a guy in here who he's never met he just tries to get away Mars he love he love the females the females Jesus Christ he loves the females he loves what he loves women but then guys he's but he he's he smelled he smelled your he smelled your kiddies it I also he probably also our hands smell like strong sauce it's a good point it's rubbing them in chicken for an hour so it also is a possibility they he's like I hate this motherfucker but damn his hands I want to eat I will like I use I think three or four wet naps at the table me too and

then I washed my hands when I got here that's right and still my hands are like smell like sauce when you when you when you arrive to the restaurant your hands are sticky and you use some wet naps anyway I thought we said we weren't going to tell anybody about that we agree right before I had to break the promise so the chain we're gonna be we're gonna be discussing a bit yes you went to the counter and you're like I got some wet naps they're like oh okay and you're like my hands are really sticking back why you're like you know why and they're like excuse me and we had to eat our meal outside the

restaurant yeah yeah and they even had no seats that no seats we're sitting on the curb you sit on the curb I shouldn't have thrown in the you know why that was tempting fate so the chain we're gonna be discussing in a little you know what yeah here's here's what I say all of 2020 no come talk wow that's it that's the last that's the last bit of coming in your resolution no more come talk 51 episodes coming out yeah okay can we do it I don't think so I think I don't think we'll make it through this episode I'm gonna say does it start after this episode I think we're both gonna forget very soon can

your guests talk come I think so I think yeah but we have to be we have to like grit our teeth and not say anything I also want to point out that we are three men in the presence of a woman talking about yeah well as long as she's used to it I will say I'm used to it because I record other podcasts yes we don't know we don't say like hey Mars and then we just don't go straight to come talk for God's sakes Mitch chutney loads lately well we fail resolutions off let's talk food a little bit before we before we get into the chain because this is a this is a big Chicago chain yeah and Chicago known for its cuisine

you grew up there on the south side morning raised so erased and and do you also went to college in Chicago yeah I lived in Chicago up until I was 26 wow so it is the only place I know I knew I moved here seven years ago so it's the only place I knew for the first 26 years of my life I assume your your favorite food city just because you have so much I like it is listen New York is a great food city I will say that so when I say to me Chicago is the greatest food city in the world there or at least in America there is a little bit of bias that comes with that I completely fucking acknowledge that but man it's such good

food there like chicken meat that's it chicken and meat chicken and meat what else do you need what honestly what else do you need pizza you know you get the deep dish of course but you also get the tavern style square pizza which is the real Chicago yeah that's what everyone and also that is I mean if I lived in Chicago that's the pizza I would eat you know we go there when we go there which we're going to Detroit Nick we get a we get it right we get to try some when we we're not doing a pizza restaurant in Detroit we're doing we're doing some hot dogs Detroit pizza is a little that there there's is like the

thicker crust a little bit thicker yeah like Sicilian yeah that's what they call it yeah it's yeah it's close it's kind of close to the cheat Sicilian sheet pizza basically yeah yeah yeah that that the thinner Chicago pizza is is fantastic it's so it's so good and it's not people don't really talk about it too much now people act like we just up here eating you know the bricks of cheese right every time you want to yell for like piece of the night yeah man go order a deep dish pizza to eat nightly that's insane that's like more of a special thing but yeah man food in Chicago is it's so good so many great

local joints yeah and like one thing that a lot of people so obviously you have all the tourist food the deep dish pizza the regular pizza chicken Italian beef the hot dogs everything that people knows but the thing that a lot of people who aren't from Chicago don't realize is kind of like out here you also have like Greek town you have all these different towns like how you have a Thai town out here in K town and everything like that where the cuisines are fucking what the town is known for yeah so you just get so much good local food joints which is yeah we had some my lovely wife Natalie is just like she

always does a lot of investigation and is very a lot more plugged in unlike like local food than I am better she's better at your job she's better my job than I am but she found she like she always finds these these we've been to Chicago a number of times for the podcast but then we also we also just went once on her own because we had a great time the city and she just finds like like there's like a great like Buria place we went to and just yeah I wouldn't be I wouldn't expect this to be in Chicago based on with an outsider's perspective but of course there's great Mexican food here yeah or like a was a we've been at this

great Vietnamese place I wish I could remember the name but a couple of times it's just like yeah it is fantastic and it's like because it's such a dense populated city it's got basically every type of cuisine exactly what you're saying the do you ever are you ever someone who goes to any of the like the high-end like do you ever gonna do any fine dining in Chicago cuz you know it's got a lot of fancy restaurants yeah not really cuz I'm poor you know grew up on the south side for those who don't know the south side of Chicago is where is where most of the poor folks live and I know some people and listen it is like

I'm rich I'm sorry I don't know I shouldn't say racial words but you know people who can you tell how wiger and I tensed up and you guys did so was above his body for I've never heard anyone say it aloud before so sorry guys we we're loose with the word on culture can't apologize I give it's the only time I say it is in front of a microphone otherwise I'd be like racial but yeah no I mean generally where I grew up it was it was a lot of local joints and we would go out to eat and stuff but the fine dining place I feel that's more for tourists than anything else especially the definition of fine dining because my

definition of fine dining is oh alright cool we spending like 30 40 bucks yeah and but Chicago has true fine dining too yeah where we're just like alright man you know once I shoot a ball like Jordan or rap like chance then I'll go to those yeah what it what it what is what let's let's put a price tag on it what is what do you think is the highest you would pay money's not an issue for you here it's just a meal here what I'm saying is like what is the highest price you would pay for yourself for a meal well but money's not an issue money's not an issue so would you pay any price but yeah and this hypothetical if I have

infinite money I hate I knew that this fuck you make bullshit you make 250 thousand dollars a year there we go what is what is the price of a meal that's too high because I even think that if you if I feel like if you were very very wealthy there's still probably still is a price yeah it was like $25,000 for me like I don't think that's excessive I mean $250,000 a year I think technically puts you in the 1% that's a very that's a very good living okay I will say so like pretend that you were a little less I think that if you are like I would say that I'd be for a very special occasion I'd feel comfortable spending

$500 for a party of two like like like me and now you're gonna go out we're gonna spend we're gonna have a fucking blowout meal for our anniversary and we're gonna get tasting that you and wine you know something like that that to me isn't even too crazy it's for two if it's two people it's $500 I'm saying like so you're saying for me sitting alone what's your what's your what's your limit no you can be for two like what would your limit be I feel like if it was a party so what's my absolute limit what would I be like okay I'm comfortable paying that I'd like I'd pay that that's a lot of money that's a lot

of money I think I think it's four digits I think that that's insane that would be a point where I'd be like I don't know I like it would be it would have to be a lot for me to spend to be you be comfortable spending a thousand what is what is the is the French laundry is it like is that what it's called is it the French laundry I don't know the French laundry is even the most expensive restaurant that's that's Thomas Keller's restaurant but it's pretty pricey yeah see I don't I don't for me it's all right I would 500 sounds perfect because I'm thinking you get an appetizer really good dessert a

couple entrees you know and probably a bottle of wine something really nice bottle of wine but when you start getting more than that just like what I mean it's the same cows on this planet it's the same like where's this special food coming from yeah it's not gonna taste that good right and even if money was no object if you put a $500 stake in front of me and if that don't taste like $500 I'm gonna be upset that's fair I don't care how much money yes yes I agree and I that's why I think that I think that there is a limit on it have you have you been to Providence out here Nick yeah that was

actually an anniversary dinner that I was thinking of you went to Providence it wasn't that much money it wasn't as much as I was a $500 but it was like it's like a lot of money yeah and but it felt worth it because it was like a great experience and it was very memorable right that's the most I've ever spent on a meal with me and my fiance was we spent like two around 250 we got a bottle of wine she got crab I got a filet mignon and we got a dessert that was as tall as where the top of my head is just for the two of us and it was beautiful and it was right off the lake it was a boathouse steakhouse it was so

good man Chicago gives you this is in Chicago no this wasn't in Chicago this was in Florida all right this is in Florida in Chicago the most we've ever spent on each other is $16 I just I just feel like there is such a capper with meal I like like you were saying like yeah you can only get to a point of where meal is so good there's diminishing returns it's yeah and also I think sometimes the most satisfying meals are ones that you're fucking getting out of a truck or something like that or getting out of a window and and and taking to go let's talk a little bit about getting out of a truck like you're

stealing someone's lunch pail yeah like I'm thinking like there's a blue collar union guy making an honest living I'm gonna swipe is a picnic a basket back to pick a big basket. Yogi wiger. That's me right. You're boo boo. I'm boo boo. That's a real real flip on casting God. Jack Allison used to say that when we lived together we were Yogi and boo boo very similar. Yeah boo boo was always a picking fights with SNL writers. Let's talk a little bit about about cruises which is the thing we talked about on culture Kings. I know it's a thing you're into. Yes it is. Cruises are big food vacations as my understanding like what

is your food plan when you're when you're on a cruise. All right so here's what I love about cruise food. It's always accessible right. So the first couple of me and me never having been on one. What are you what are we looking at. You never got to go. You got to go. All right. So here's the thing with a lot. Most cruises are set up this way and the more expensive the cruise the more options you get. But most cruises are set up where there is for lack of a better word like a cafeteria right. That's buffet style and also ready to mate mate to order food right. And most of those are all day long. Like you can go get that

at any point of the day. And then on the boat there will also be other restaurants too. So some more expensive boats will have other restaurants like more restaurants or true fine dining. So you'll have that. And then you also have the dining room and the dining room is where they do you do breakfast and dinner. And that is a sit down meal. You get it. And it's a different menu every night. So that's the cool thing about that. It's a different menu every night. If you have a lot of people they'll put all your people at the same table or if it's just a small amount of people they put you at a table with other cruise guests so

you can meet people and shit like that. No I don't hate this. Yeah. Well you can also you can also say I just want dinner with just me and the person I'm with. Got it. The entire cruise don't put me with anybody. Or you just don't have to go. You just have to go. You won't hurt for food. You won't hurt for food. So my attack is you definitely got to go. First I got to get my pina colada first drink always and then you go to the cafeteria and just rate it. And last cruise I went on I went on with a Herald team. Wow. It was very fun. We had a blast. You did as a group because we did that as a group because there are there's

also like the second second city does like there's like people work on the boats from. So we didn't work. We just went as for vacation like as a Herald team. So that was cool. So we just ate a bunch of food smoked a lot of weed and then went in a hot tub for the next four hours and it was fantastic. That's awesome. Then the dining room every night because the food is really good. Yeah. The food is really good. The menu changes every time. And it's all it's like free room service. You also get room service too. And it's all free. So you can say it's a restaurant to free or restaurants are like the only restaurants that aren't

free are the ones that are like fine dining. OK. Got it. Yes. So it's just all inclusive. You just pay a specific price. You pay you pay the price of the cruise. So like the last cruise I went on was two hundred and fifteen dollars a person for three nights and we got free food room and board and went to another city and entertainment and all this dope shit. It was great. I love it. I was going to give shit to you. I said you haven't been on a cruise in the IRLs. I've been on one when I was eight. The big red boat cruise that I've talked about on the podcast before. Right. The one where you saw a lot of shit. There was a lot of

shit in the jacuzzi. Yeah. You got to get on better cruises than that. You got to get on better cruises than that. If you see a lot of shit on like a Royal Caribbean like they'll give you money. They'll give you money. Yeah. The cruises are so much better now. And I also thought well besides you just like jumping off the trying to jump off the boat like Rose and Titanic I'm sure you would immediately would want to see you. I mean like there would be a weird thing where you probably would try to toss yourself overboard. But also I feel like you would get motion sickness. I would. Well so I get motion sick on boats but I've only

been on smaller vessels. Yeah. Me too. I get motion sick on boats too. Is it a sin? Not on cruises. Not on cruises. No. And here's here's a tip for you when you book your first cruise stay deck seven or higher. You definitely won't get motion and try to stay in the middle of the of the boat. You go deck six or lower. You are more prone to get motion sickness because you're right by the water man. And then being in the front or back. You know that's iffy with some people. But if you're in the middle you're in the most stable part of the boat where you don't feel shit mostly mostly. This is very nice of you but

why girls never going to go on this cruise. All right. You know listen. Listen I'm trying to you know listen. I know there's a lot of Doughboy fans out there like I would pay for a cruise to come see y'all guys. They even pay for you. So I'm trying to give you some work. I'm trying to give you some work but you know you don't want to take it. Oh man the Doughboy's cruise. The Doughboy's cruise. That would be dope. Like the Jericho cruise. Yes. Exactly like the Jericho cruise. The Jericho cruise. And you guys will just do like a couple of nights of podcasts. Oh my god. For the whole night. But the only cruise in

history where no one takes their shirt off. Does it note. Does anybody get in the water. It turned into a gumbo. Just sitting in the water. Yeah. Everybody's just eating the whole cruise and farting all over the boat. Open air. It's perfect. We should our shows. Our live show should be cruise only. We should go we should go out on the ship on the lake or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listen. If y'all need anybody to plan the Doughboy's cruise I will leave culture kings to our full time for you guys and plan this for you. Oh man. Fast food for every meal. Who'd be a fucking guy. That would be grim. Yeah. But that's the thing

too. A cool thing about the cruises is it's not you can't get fast food like with just the shit that stays out buffet style but like fries and chicken fingers. Yeah. Yeah. But they also make a lot of like tacos and burgers and like they make a lot of shit for you but then the actual dining room. It's true. It is like you're going to a restaurant where you would probably spend like 80 bucks a person. The better thing about that is you can get an entree and just say you know what I want to taste that other main entree and they'll just bring it to you. Wow. There is no limit. You can call room service anytime and they just

bring it to you. You don't pay. They can't say no to food. So you can say give me one of everything on a menu and they literally will bring you one of everything on a fucking menu. Wow. It's pretty great. I feel like these rules will change once I go on a cruise. Give me three of everything. The 2021 Mitchell rule that went into effect. So we were talking a little bit before at the restaurant and we're covering a fried chicken place. Jackie, you have a home deep fryer. You're someone who fries your own chicken. I do. I love chicken. Y'all chicken is great. And it's not just the stereotype. Like I know the

stereotype is like black people love chicken. But who the fuck don't love chicken? We all love chicken. It's true. That's a strange stereotype. I don't know where it came from. But because like there wasn't we talked about this earlier too. Like fried chicken has started to kind of take off here in LA because in Chicago, I didn't I didn't cook much fried chicken because I can just go get it at many places, including heralds and other fried chicken joints. But because there was such a lack of fried chicken out here and like there's a couple, but you got to get in the car and drive everywhere and all

that shit. I was like, you know what? Let me just make my let me start making fried chicken myself. And so I bought a deep fryer and man, it's good. I season it. I season that rules. Listen, man, you're seasoning what you said to us sounded very interesting. Let me tell you. Let me tell you what I do for the seasoning. I don't care, but I'll give this recipe out. So first I keep the I keep the I keep the chicken season. They're pretty simple. I do a little salt, little pepper, some garlic powder and a little lemon pepper just on the chicken. And then in the flour because you got to season the flour too. That's

where a lot of people fail. They just put the chicken and bear flour and it don't work. I do paprika, red crushed peppers, salt, pepper, a little just a little bit of onion powder. Okay. And then a little lemon pepper in that too. And like I oversees in that because I should go fall off. So I oversees in that. Throw that back. Throw it. Sometimes I'll do the egg on the chicken, but not all the time. If I wanted to be real crispy, I'll do the egg. But most of the time I just, you know, dip it in, put it in a deep fryer, go to work. Damn, that's impressive. The red pepper flakes in the in the batter, especially I sounded

very, very good. It's good, man. It's good. And I don't like red chili pepper. Yes, we're talking about that. Yeah, I'm not a spicy. I'm not a spicy guy, but it gives the appropriate amount of kick to your chicken. That sounds good. Wags. Yeah. I definitely encountered paprika before in a breading, but not the not the red pepper. Yeah, I like that. It's a nice innovation. What are you going to say? I'm just going to say you've never made anything like that, huh? I've never made fried chicken from scratch. No, it seems like it's a challenge. Like the breading and then also getting the chicken cooked to temperature is challenging. Like I've

made like a number of chicken dishes, but that and that specifically. I told you this before I talked about this, but you know how many times I saw Hanford Hanford used to make chicken all the time and how many times I saw him bite into a chicken and it was like wrong. Yeah, it was under a cooked. I said the same. It's so crazy. It's not. I mean, it's scary because the outside can look done. Right? He's like, Oh, let me take this out. I want to burn it. Yeah. But yeah, the key is getting your grease super hot before you put anything, which obviously that makes sense, right? But however hot you think it is, let it get like 15 minutes

hotter and then throw your chicken in so it can cook even. It seems like impossible to me to do. I mean, I don't have a deep fryer to thank God. That's what makes it easy because mine has a temperature gauge on it. So like I can set the temperature 400 degrees and then when I drop the chicken in, it bumps it up to 425 so it can stay at 400 essentially. But now I've kind of moved off into deep fryer. I cook a lot more in my just in my cast iron now. My sister got an air fryer for Christmas and that thing is pretty. Did she love it? I loved it. I went over there and we used it a little bit and we made we made buffalo

wings and it was the best non fried buffalo wings I've ever had. They were really, really, really good. I'm fascinated by air fryer about my mom for Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like a thing that should not be like. It's like I don't know like how does it how does it work? Yeah. What is it seems like a thing that should not be? Well, because it's like that's the whole thing I know about deep frying is that you need to it needs to be immersed in oil. Like I'm just like what is the air fryer? Here's the thing is that air fryer's can't you can't put something battered in there. For instance, it's

like, it's not like deep frying. It is. It's basically a mini convection oven, but like it makes things to taste like it makes things like crisp and hot quickly. Yes. Got it. So if you've got like some, some microwave taquitos, you can throw those in there, but if you're going to make fried chicken from scratch, it's not going to work a million times better. If you put French fries in there, they taste, they taste and also it's great in reheating stuff. Got it. So you have some leftover McDonald fries. They never work, but you put them in the air fryer. They work great. And you can put oil because I just bought it

for and didn't use it. Like while my mom lives here now, so I could go over anytime, but I haven't used, I haven't been there while she's used it yet. You can put oil in it, a little oil. Okay. I think it, I think it depends on what the, I think it depends on which, which one it is. My sister's one, you were not supposed to put anything in it. Okay. But, but I think there might be, I think there might be different ones where you can maybe even have something that's just like use a little oil and it like goes along like a teaspoon of oil. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know what? I coated it with like olive oil. Okay. I

spread some olive oil in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, should we do air fryer double wire? Yeah. I guess we might as well. We buy an air fryer for my place and then we, we try stuff in it. I like it. Also buy a deep fryer and throw some Oreos in there. Why not? Just have a fried episode and we should do a, which new fridge is the best? We put it in the Palmerston kitchen. So I get taste of home.com. This is the source of this. The air fryer is essentially an amped up countertop convection oven. Like you said, it's compact space, facilitates even faster cooking. The top of the unit holds a

heating mechanism and a fan. Hot air rushes down around food placed in a fryer style basket. How about that? It's a thing that should not be, I say. Do you cook? Do you cook, Nick? I do cook. All right. Yeah. What's, what's your what's your, what's your dish? Oh boy. That's a great. Plain spaghetti. Plain spaghetti with no salsa meat. Just noodles. Butter. No. Salt and pepper. Hot, wet noodles. Hey, man, you do you, you be blessed. You be blessed. I will say that I've been, if I have a go to dish right now, I've been making like a chicken adobo in the Dutch oven. And then actually is a, that's actually, it's pretty

straightforward to make. And I think it comes out pretty satisfactory. I think like a, like, you know, someone who was, I don't, I don't think someone's Filipino mom would be impressed by my chicken adobo, but I think that like for me doing my best, I think it works pretty well. I'm like, I can get like, I can execute a recipe, but I don't have like amazing like knife skills or anything. That's better than I thought. I thought you're bringing me out like apps of like slices of gum on a plate to Natalie. Here you go, baby. It's some big red, some juicy fruit, got some experiment. Oh,

you want a winter fresh? I got you, baby. I got you. Let me take it back to the kitchen. Hey, we gon' do this tonight. That's pretty good. I'm actually kind of impressed. The chicken adobo. Yeah, I still, I did. I detest gum. I would never do that. You detest. There's no gum in our household. Really? No, no gum. There's no gum in our household. Either actually, but not because I detest it, just cause I'm too lazy to go buy it. Similar. What are these rules that you both have?

But also his sound, your, your sounds weirdly real. What do you mean? There's no gum. I don't like gum. Natalie doesn't like, I mean, Natalie doesn't need it. I don't like it. I find it gross. Like I find it like, like it just, I don't like chewing it. I don't like chewing something. I'm not going to swallow and I like, and I'd like, uh, come on, easy. And, uh, and I like mints. I'm a mint guy. So I'll go like, well, go, you know, use some Altoids. Do you chew your mitts or do you? I try not to. Okay. So you let them dissolve. I try to let them dissolve. I have a, I have a big

kind of maniac. If you, a fresh mint, just chewing it right away. Jesus. I'm a maniac. I chew. Do you really? I do chew mitts. Holy shit. I do chew mitts. Like it depends. Some mitts if, all right, I'll chew it. I will test a mint. And if I'm like, this is going to hurt my teeth, then I'm going to suck it a little bit until I can chew it. Wow. That's wild to me. Yeah. Out to, you're just going to crunch on an Altoid as soon as it gets in there. I mean, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Why is, you know, you have no stance on this. I'm interested in what our listeners do. If you like to chew your mints right

away, hashtag mint chew lip and, uh, and if you like to suck them, uh, hashtag suck on this. Can I say something? Yeah. That just sucked. Those hashtags. So they're pretty good. Mint chew. That sounds like, that sounds like a Disneyland drink. We'll take a break. Put me back with more dough boys. Welcome back to dough boys. We are here with Jackie's Neil. We are talking Harold's chicken shack, a Chicago chain founded in 1950 on the South side by Harold Pierce locations, mostly in Chicago, but it has a few in other Midwest states now, um, as well as Atlanta, Phoenix and now LA, the location, I think just opened this past year. Yes. Yeah. And, uh, the,

the chicken is fried to order in a mixture of beef, tallow and vegetable oil. So that's part of what's unique about this place. They don't have their chicken done in batches and they get that beef tallow as part of its, uh, it's part of its cooking oil. Uh, so is beef tallow what they used to cook McDonald's fries and Donald's fries and yeah, they don't know more. What's that? They don't anymore. Do they do they cook them still? No, they discontinued that in the eighties. It's in now and vegetable oil, which wasn't like a funny thing of like it was like not worth it. Right? It was that sort of thing of like beef. They thought beef tallow was really bad for you. And then these vegetable oils are also kind of not great. Yes. There's a,

there's a Malcolm Gladwell podcast about it. That's, we got, we listened to it. This was one of our dumbest episodes. Did he record that on, uh, on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane? How I heard of this, the bathroom, the Lolita Express. Uh, so the, is that true? He was on the Lolita. Yeah, he was. He's on the fight logs. Um, yeah. Anyway, a lot of, a lot of people, a lot of people in the science community have deep ties. Jeffrey Epstein, very interesting. Um, so, uh, but the, but he has, we recorded an episode where we listened to his podcast about it and then talked about it. I'm pretty sure we did that. I think we did that. It was bad. It's, yeah, but his, his podcast was, what have we

done? That's really good. Oh guys, you do a lot of good stuff. So, but basically he talked about how that there was a war on saturated fat, uh, that was happening. Oh, sorry. What the fuck was that? I was playing with the elastic. It shot at you. I didn't mean to do it. Oh, see, I'm here to mediate. Uh, the dough boys are fighting. Yo, Mitch hasn't been here in a minute. And the first thing he did was try to injure the eye of Nick. If I turn Nick into a fucking Cyclops, that would rule. Uh, no, I was, I had the, I had it wrapped around my fingers and it shot at you. I didn't, I didn't mean to do it. It was so jarring. Relax. It's like a rubber band projectile flew across the table. Yeah, no shit. You did. That happened

all the time when you were in elementary school. I know, but we're grown men. It was weird. People used to throw rubber bands at y'all. He used to shoot rubber bands at people and stuff like that. You get them hands in my school. If you used to throw rubber bands at people, I would love that. If I went to your school in the first day, I was like, huh, and then just got destroyed. We used to do this at my school. So we had a, so yeah, the option of the Malcolm Gladwell podcast is that there was a big war on saturated fat and that's the reason the McDonald's got rid of it. But I think they would have eventually gotten rid of it anyway, because it's probably more cost efficient. You use vegetable oil, which is the main driver of all these fast food chain

decisions. It doesn't make sense. Where do you get the oil for? You know what I'm saying? Which vegetables? I'm saying like there's oil from beef. Oh God. Oh, I shouldn't go off on this tangent. I don't know anything about this. You squeeze oil out of a carrot, I say. Yeah. Whether that thing got udders on it. What are you doing? We're getting the oil from where's the oil come from vegetable oil? Where's the oil? Where's the oil, Mr. President? Where's the oil? I don't know, but it's cheap. You're going to break my fucking mirror. You're slamming into the mirror. This discussion before the issue is that your answer is to get a new table. The issue is that I'm so I have so little space here. We gave you more room.

All right, fine. We're giving you even more room. You fucking greedy piece of shit. We don't have to move the table right now. Something's going to go. There's all this electronics equipment on top of it. We're going to something's going to go. There's a big center block too. This is a those. They're actually very light. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the piece of glass is the table. Why are like he jolts back? I don't have a lot of room here. Look, I can't even like if I bend my arms, it's like a four arms length. You're in robot mode right now. Yeah. You're basically doing the robot. I've got my arms like a, you know, at folded at the elbow to try to illustrate how little room I have in here. You got plenty of space. I don't have a lot of room.

I'm really stuck in the corner there. You also have a block right in front of your knees. Yeah, it's true. I can't extend my legs either. I have my legs. I put, I sit with my legs like, like cross on your, on your chair. I do that intentionally so you don't put your head down there. All right. We say we weren't going to talk about this right before the podcast and keep breaking these promises. Technically auto fallatio doesn't necessarily mean come not guaranteed. So we went to the Hollywood. Oh, that's sad. You can suck your home dick, but not be guaranteed to go. I did a bad job. Apologize to yourself. Sorry. This is too real to me now. So we went to the Hollywood Boulevard location,

which has a full bar. None of us got any, any drinks. They, you're at the counter, they bring it to your table. I will say that, that it took a little bit because, you know, one of their friars was down, but they were so nice about it. They were so super apologetic and like, I think they gave us a discount coupon code that I already forgot for a future visit. But I think they just said come back and tell us that we told you that we'll give you 15% off right something like that, which it was trustworthy. Sure. Yeah, that it was. It was very nice. But I mean, what are we going to say? Why is it? Yeah, it wasn't. I think they did. They say there was someone to ask and specifically. I don't remember what it was. They gave us two names.

They gave us two names. They forgot both of those. Yeah, can't remember at all. That's their plan. Let's give them two hard as names to remember. So when they come back, she said, Marissa name on Marissa here. We give you just 15% off until you get the names right. And it was also that sort of thing of that. It didn't really end up mattering. I mean, like it wasn't that it didn't take 30 minutes. It wasn't that long. Yeah, we were there. We were there for probably in what an hour and a half basically. Yeah. And so we. So I guess you kind of talked us through the thing to get there. This is places they have fried chicken, but the wings are what they're known for. Yeah. Yeah. So fried chicken wings and then

they throw. Listen, first of all, Harrow's is a Chicago classic. It's a hood classic. Everybody in Chicago knows about Harrow's. They love it. And here's the cool thing. It's not the only really good fried chicken place. It's just the one that's really popular in the chain now, right? But you get mild sauce on it. So mild sauce is a Chicago thing. And if any other city out there is like, man, we got mild sauce too. It started in Chicago and it's basically a mix of ketchup, barbecue sauce, hot sauce and a little vinegar, which is kind of mixed in a really good taste, right? It's a specific thing. It's not the least hot salsa to salsa bar. Right. Right. Yeah. It's not. It's not. It's not really the

mild buffalo sauce either. It's not. So it's very different. I will tell you guys, I honestly, until I was probably like late teenager, didn't know that the salsa, like that, that was called mild sauce, like the, the shit you dip chips in. Cause that mild sauce in Chicago is the shit that Harrow's puts on there. So you thought like when you heard mild, you're like, oh, mild sauce is like this specific thing instead of like mild salsa or mild buffalo wing sauce. It was like this is this sauce right here. So you would not, you would not get that. If you ordered mild sauce in the rest of the country, you would not get that. Yeah. So it was a foreign concept to me that mild sauce was something else

everywhere else. But yeah, you get mild sauce on it, fried hard, which we did, salt and pepper, or some people get lemon pepper too, but that's the, that's the dish you get right there. The wing dinner always comes with fries and for whatever reason, one piece of white Wonder Bread. Right. They just kind of underneath soaking everything up. I just realized yeah, it's supposed to come with coleslaw too, isn't it? It is supposed to come with coleslaw. We did not get the coleslaw. Wow. None of us got our coleslaw. They jipped us. I just remember we didn't get the coleslaw. That's fucked up because we got a lot of other shit. We got tons of shit. We got tons of stuff. So it didn't even clock to me that we didn't either. I forgot about the

coleslaw. Damn. This changes everything. Wow. Zero fours. I can't believe it. I can't. I can't believe that we forgot more than anything. Yeah. We all collectively, none of us noticed that we didn't wait. Marius. I did not notice. None of us noticed. We didn't know. How is the coleslaw? That's good. That's good. I'm not a fan of coleslaw. So to me, it's good just because if I, for me, it's like, oh, if I like it, then it's good because I don't eat coleslaw generally. So yeah, there's going to be some freak listen to whose favorite food is coleslaw. Right? I'll say it's not my favorite food, but I've come back around on coleslaw for a while.

It was a coleslaw skeptic. I was like, get this out of here. I don't need this. And then I've had some good, I've had some good slaw and like just in the past couple of years have come back around on it for the lunch break for the Lord of the Rings, those freaks. They just put out a big found of coleslaw and then they fucking. Oh yeah. I see the guy was set horny, horny freaks. It's a horny set. It's a horny set. Do you think coleslaw is honestly, I mean, it's got to be someone's favorite food, but I can probably some weirdo. Yeah. I don't. Yeah, it's like, I think it's a very capable side in certain scenarios. If you don't want, you want a sandwich, but you feel like a fries are going to be too heavy coleslaw can do your proper coleslaw

is fun on a sandwich. I'll enjoy this one on a sandwich. Some people put it on a sandwich. Yeah. Yeah. Some people do it, put it on chicken sandwiches too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like if it's a kind of a vinegary, if you got a strong vinegar taste, right? I'm not in love with coleslaw either. I think I would do potato salad a hundred times over it. I think coleslaw is probably like a B plus at best, but still like it sometimes hits the spot. See, I don't like cold food. Interesting. So for me, like I don't love potato salad either because it's cold. Yeah. And yeah, I'm not a fan of cold food. Do you mean specifically refrigerated food or do you mean like room temp stuff in general? Like room tempered stuff is fine. But anything that is chilled,

got it. Like I don't, I don't, my brain can't wrap around cold pizza. I don't get it. I don't like cold pizza. Yeah. But is this only for savory foods? Is this not extended? Oh yeah. I'll eat like cold. See, I'll eat ice cream, but unless it has icing on it, I will throw slices of cake into the microwave. And I don't, and I don't eat pie. Wow. You don't eat pie. I don't eat pie. I'll eat some cheesecake. Why don't you eat pie? I've just never liked it. Really? And like that was my grandmother's specialty. Like she would make pies in the winter and then go outside and bury it in snow so it can get a natural coldness to it. That's insane. Like she was a pie person. And I'm the only person in my family who doesn't eat pie. That's that it's consistency for me.

And then again, I don't like cold food. Wow. I'm weird guys. Why were you looking at me this whole time? We was talking about pie. You just let know you were just like you were I could tell you you're fuming. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. I'll leave if y'all won't. I'll like I'll squeeze through the mailbox slot on your door. I think I would. I think that would be best. Okay. All right. Hey guys, it's been real. You guys are welcome on culture kings. I think so. I pie. Well, especially because if you like hot food, so I'm on board with I'm on board. I didn't know all these food opinions. We're going to you have a very specific very specific food things. Yeah. Geez because because pie is one that served a lot of the

time. So go warm. No, no, no, no, no. Apple pie, a hot, a hot apple pie. That is consistency for me. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's consistency for me. I like biting it. Well, now that you said that too, I'm like, is pie more hot or more room temperature? I feel like it's generally room temp unless you get it all a modans, then they'll heat it up so that ice cream. That's a little because apple pie is basically what I was thinking. Yeah. The hot pie. Okay. I love pie. I love all sorts of pie. I'm a cake guy. I like cake. I like cake. All right, too. But I think I've I think I've gone to the pie side is as a yeah. I'm a pie guy. Yeah. I like I'm but I love cake. I mean, I mean, I'm in any dessert. I got a real sweet too. That's actually a serious problem. I'm a

cake shake. I don't know what a pie guy sound is so nice. So I was just trying to I'm like, I'm like cake shake, baby. I'm a cake shake, baby. I go from one to the other. This is like a B 52's deep cut. Yeah. Yeah. The cake shake, baby. And a pie guy. It's the cake shake, baby. And a pie guy. That's it. Just repeat that over and over again. I'm with you in that. I like hot food. Yeah. Like if I get a meal, I want it to be. I always want it to be warm. Sure. I don't. I don't. I don't. I just prefer prefer that over cold food. Same like they were flying us first class for this movie, which is great, which look, they flew. That's not my I'm not. That's a union thing. That's a good thing. Who gives a shit?

It's the fucking videos money. There was always options for meals for cold or hot. And I felt like everyone goes for the hot option. Right. Yeah. Like I don't get cold sandwiches at especially at restaurants. Yeah. Like, man, you got a microwave, throw this shit in the mic. Like I don't I don't get it. I just I don't I like my food to feel like it was cooked. Yeah. I generally agree with you. However, I will say I do like I do like potato salad, which is one thing you pointed out. I I really like as far as cold sandwiches go, like an Italian cold cut combo, like one of those. I don't mean though. I don't mean the subway one. I mean, like you get like an Italian hero and it's just like all those cold cuts. I don't want an Italian sub heat.

I don't want that hot. I like that cold. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. And when and sometimes that can hit the spot, but I always would rather have like a meatball sub or something. Yeah, it's good. Yeah. And it means to derail us. No, this is great. This is this is this is where this is what we live on. This is what the food opinions of food opinions of the world. So let's stock. Let's start with the stock. Let's stock. Let's let's talk. Well, that would be if this was a this is a celery oriented podcast. We could say let's stock. Well, 2020 you already make a resolution. You can change it up if you want in a couple of years. We're going to have like celery month anyways. Podcasts run out of ideas. We've been on fumes since like 2017.

So we got talking about the hot stuff we got. We'll start with the apps. We got some mac and cheese. We got the broccoli and cheese bites, which I need Mitch and I had never seen it. I've never seen that before. Like like mac and cheese bites or any of those sort of like like a deep fried. Yeah, they're like mac and cheese bites, but with broccoli like like cut up broccoli inside of them and some cheese, we got the the fried okra and we got a pizza puff. Jackie, tell everyone what a pizza puff is because it was new to me. Yeah, pizza puff is is a Chicago hood food for sure. It is it. The best way I described it to you guys at first is is like a big ass Tostino's roll or how do you say that word? Tostino's roll.

But it is basically they put some sauce, some like crumbled up sausage, some cheese, and in a big like huge crust and they just keep folding it over and then they deep fry the whole thing. It's almost like fried dough consistency. It's fried dough because yeah, because it here's the thing. It's called a pizza puff, but it doesn't taste like pizza. No, no, no. It like Tostino. So how do you say it again? Totino's. Totino's. I can't say that word. Totino's rolls. Totino's. Totino's. I think what it is is and this trips people up. Tostino's is similar. Tostino's. Okay. Tostino's is the chip. Totino's is the roll. Totino's. Totino's. Totino rolls. Those don't taste like pizza either. Yeah. No, they don't. They don't like pizza either. And they

just burn your mouth more than 90. Yes. So that's what a piece of puff is. It's a lot. The dough is or the crust is very doughy. Yeah. Then you get the fill in in the middle. It like to me. When I play football, my nickname was pizza puff. Really? That's so dough. Pizza puff. Go get us more water. I will say this was like, you know, it's kind of like a like like puff pastry is kind of what the exterior reminded me. It's kind of like a funnel cake filled with bolognese sauce. It's like really like intense, but it's pretty good. I liked eating it. It's pretty good, but I agree with you that it doesn't really taste like pizza. No, it doesn't at all. It doesn't taste

like pizza. And you know, I used to eat it all the time when I was younger and got to a certain age where I was like, I should stop eating this because it's terrible for you. Yeah. And it's one of those every blue moon thing. One of those every blue moon thing. It seems like a good drunk food. It was a great drunk food. It was. It was very. We could see that it was just there was just oil all over. Yeah, it was. It was. It looked extremely unhealthy and like in Chicago, the piece of puff, which makes it even more of a great junk food is it comes in like the thing you put fries in. Yeah. So it comes in like a paper bag like that. So you just hold it and it could be hot, but your hand, your fingers are protected and you just walk around the city and

eat piece. That sounds very much like a fucking. Yeah, it's the chic. Yeah, listen up Chicago. Eating fucking pizza puffs, your fat fuckers. Hey, man, leave us alone. Leave us alone. We had Obama. We can't yell Obama. We can be fat. This is and this is Obama's. This restaurant is Obama's favorite Obama's life favorite restaurant. Yeah, it's his favorite chicken. One of his favorite favorite restaurants best. He says best chicken in Chicago. Wow. A lot of people agree. I know there's some Chicago people out there is like no sharks is it sharks. There's a place called sharks. It is a chain only

in Chicago though. It's just terrified of sharks sharks. Legit afraid of sorry. So even a restaurant probably never be able to go in there. I feel you. I feel you bro. I feel you. What if it's a trap set up by sharks? It might be. It might be. I'm just waiting for you. So the with the okra I thought was was fine. I mean, like, I, you know, fried, I like okra, but a fried okra is not like an apple seek out. But I thought this is this is fine, right? We all just we all agree that it needed some dipping sauce. At least Mars and I agree. The absence of of a clear dip and sauce did hurt this one a little bit. The broccoli and cheddar cheese bites. I mean, they're like a weird novelty, but I think I didn't mind them. I think they should

show up a more app on a more appetizer on more at menus. They should be in that. They should be an app. Everyone's doing tempura green beans right now is something with like a little bit of a, you know, I guess a mildly healthy or deep fried app, but some broccoli and cheese bites. I think it could work. Yeah, I thought they were fine. I thought they were. I thought they were pretty tasty. By the way, since this is Obama's favorite chicken place, we have to give our final thoughts with Obama impressions. Okay, Jesus Christ. Can't wait to hear you, too. If you all like your pizza puff, you can keep it. You would pick that sound bite. So we get we got those were the apps and then we got into the

chicken. So I got the catfish and three wings. It comes with a mild sauce on it. And and they I had some hot sauce on it, too, because I'm something of a heat seeker. Although I will say everything seemed very, very sauce. And you're saying it's not normally this heavily sauce. They have. So here's one thing that I actually like about heralds. Yeah. Is you ask anybody back at the crib and they will say some heralds are worse than others, right? Because even though they follow somewhat of a similar formula, it is made to order food. So your cooks matter. And some cooks are better than others, just like everybody's family, you know, like one grandma cooks better than the other grandma and things like certain things like that. So

that's actually a cool thing. Like once you find like your heralds, then you go there because those are the ones that make the shit good. But then also there is no set like amount. It's not if you've ever been to universal and the harry potter world and they have the butter beer and they put that butterscotch shit at the top. It's like, this is the best part. Can I get some more? Nah, man, we only put two ounces in there. Like you don't give me some more fucking butterscotch. Right. That's not how heralds is. They put whatever that person feels like put it on for this. So there's different like between the restaurants that can be. You can get a very different experience as far even in the same restaurants. If you get is the cook, whoever

made your order, if they're heavy handed, they'll put more sauce on your shit. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Cause and we had a heavy hand person today. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that I thought it was well sauced. I think that I would be and also I think this isn't even a complaint, but then some of the lower pieces weren't didn't have too much sauce on it. Yes. But I thought the sauce would kind of, I thought it was kind of a good level today. Like a not so much where like the the chicken kind of got soggy, which is the always my fear with any sauce put on fried chicken. But still enough that I like there was enough of that I was getting good flavors of it as I was eating the chicken. I could dip kind of the breast into it too. Right. I will say that the the the

catfish I thought was was quite good. It was flaking delicious. You're not really a fish guy, but I you spend a lot of time in the ocean, but you don't like to eat. What's in it? Hey man, I'm trying to I don't have a good joke for that, but you're right. You're right. You're right. I mean, I didn't my UCB training wasn't quick enough for that one. It's not like I tossed you an alley. You can throw one right across the plate for you to get out of the park. In fact, I'd say his setup sucks. You liked you right atop the ocean, but you don't like to eat. What's on your meeting? Fuck you. There's no training that can help you for that question. Yeah, I should do an improv workshop. That's just improvising with me.

If you if you pass it, you'll be great. Figure out what this guy's facial expressions don't change or just the tone of his voice. Okay. So we had a so yeah, I will say that the catfish was flaky and delicious. What's going on? What are you doing? I thought I heard the door. I thought I heard that too, but it sounded like a cat once my brain caught up with the sound. Was it a cat? Should I check the door? I guess. Was the cat going? Or was it the door creaking? It sounded like a creak door. It just sound like one big long meow. All right. I'm going to check it, Nick. Okay. Mitch is getting up. I'm going to talk about

the catfish I mentioned flaky and delicious. I like the breading on it. I'm used to like a cornmeal crust on a catfish when they get fried. This was more of just like a straight up breading. It was someone at the door. Wow. You Song's ghost has walked in to the studio and dabbed. What a surprise. You did hear the door. I said it was a cat. You Song's ghost, he walked through the door. Yeah. He's dead. He's a ghost. Yeah. I'm sorry. You Song's. Yeah. I said ghost rest in peace, man. Just dropping off again. Okay. So he can carry things. So he's had that that bit of training. Are you leaving? What are you leaving? I don't know. No, watching, watching this,

they don't not sure if they should talk for real or talking this improvised. You Song is in character, but also is still trying to figure out if he should stay or not. Nick, just talk to him as a human being. You Song. Thank you for dropping by. Do you want to say something to everyone listening out there? Hey, everyone. Thanks for being so nice to me on the internet. Despite me not being here. Sorry to interrupt this episode. Yeah. Just dropping off a little gift. Hopefully you'll see some content on that. Wow. Yeah. I love it. Thank you, buddy. It's maybe half a double. So that's very exciting. Just wait real quick. What we've got here, you were just in China. I was anything, anything notable happen? Oh my

God. I'm so sorry. Okay. I'll keep this quick. One, this gift is from China because there's a lot of like, um, like gift boxes around for the new year that's coming up. Very cool. Um, and two, I went to a, I went to a McDonald's in the Zhengzhou airport and I got like a rice beef bowl. I said, we saw you sent a picture of that. It was amazing. Was nuts. It was actually just okay. But it was like, it was wild to be served rice and beef in that capacity. And, uh, I got yelled at for not knowing Chinese that well. So it was like a truly authentic experience. Um, I loved it. Who yelled at you? The person behind the counter. Oh, yeah. That happens a lot. I was with, uh, Mitch and McDonald's where he got yelled at for not knowing English too well.

You gonna order fries or what? Shit. This menu ain't changed in four decades. Can I have some freeze? How do you say that? That's how dumb I am. Yeah. Piece of shit. You're a pickle jar guy. But anyways, love you guys. I'll see you soon. Love you to your body. All right. Bye. Bye. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. Back to hell for you. I want you all to know anybody listening to this that, uh, if you do happen, you know, I like this Jackie's dude. I'm going to go listen to culture kings. We don't have ghosts on our podcast talking to people. You know, we keep, uh, we keep our podcasts for the land of the living. I know, you know,

we woke now, but fuck them ghosts, man. You know, keep them ghosts out of here. You know, that's a part of wokeness. You have to be, you have to be cool with ghosts. No, I'm very unwoken. Those good, good, good ghosts can get out of here as far as I'm concerned. I, I like the, uh, I, so with the catfish, I liked the wings. I were dynamite. They're just just so well fried. You know what I like about the first half of the word cats. Got it. Dude, at first I didn't hear catfish. I just heard fish and I was like, you like fuh. I do like, you know, I like fit from the word fish. I like the first half better than ish.

Don't you? You like fit better than yeah. Sounds like shit, but it's also like like it makes me think of a library that you like. You like being shushed at the library. I just like the quiet and the calm. It's a good vibe or like a movie theater where everyone's quiet. It's nice. I like, I do. I like catfish. A lot of the time doesn't, I get to give them credit because the catfish was great. It was well done. You can have some bad catfish. Yes. It is. Isn't it one of the fishes that can just be like dirt, like you can get a dirty piece of catfish and it just sucks. Like they're eating too much shit or something. Isn't that, isn't that a low grade piece of catfish? It was great. This was, this was well done. I thought

I was, look, I just missed my cats. All right. I came back today. I haven't seen him in a few weeks. They were perring like crazy. It was all. It was a good time. It was beautiful. I thought he was a very wholesome joke. I really liked it. So thank you very much. Thank you, Mars. Why can't you be more like Mars? I mean, she's doing her. I was like, what do you mean? Like just like supportive of everything you do? Yeah. All right. I'll try to do that. This sucks. You're doing great. God. No, this is good guys. I think it's a good episode. I think so too. I'm feeling good about it. I feel great. The wings, well breaded, well seasoned. The meat was well cooked and juicy and moist. You know, a lot of times with white meat, it can get dry.

That's one of those. One reason I usually prefer dark meat when I'm getting fried chicken or chicken of any kind. But the, the, the wing was great. It was delicious. And the, the sauce just like really takes it up. If you do dark meat, you don't get a breast, right? Is that true? Yes. Okay. Yeah. You get the leg in the thigh. See, for me, so here's, here's the thing because unlike, you know, I've listened, I'd listened to a couple of few episodes of you guys and when your guest has the food for the first time too, I feel like they can contribute more to this part. But I've had heros so much in my life that it's not a new experience for me. Right. But the experience that I, I do have is when you love something so much and then you bring people

to it and now you're just like, all right, what did you think? What did you think? It's like watch, it's like loving a movie and then sitting down with my fiance and being like, all right, watch the movie. And then she goes to sleep in the first five minutes. Then I'm just like, heat it for the rest of the movie. Why would I want to apologize for falling asleep when we got into heros? I was heated, man. I was heated. But no, so for me, it was like, for me, just hearing what you guys think is the joyous thing for me because it, here's the thing about Chicago people and I will say this. We hype up our shit. We hype up our shit and sometimes, sometimes rightfully so. Yeah, sometimes rightfully so, but I can also

admit that we have a bias towards a lot of shit and we hype things up and overhype some stuff. So being for Boston, I don't relate to this at all. Boston is one of the most chill places and, you know, humble, you know, humble, you know what I'm saying? This is a whole land of Tom Brady. Just known for their humbleness. Eliminated. Oh, we talked about that already. We didn't talk Oscar snubs though. Oh, the Oscar snubs. Yeah. What got you so mad? You came in here and you said for the Ferrari, getting nominated for best picture over knives out and uncut gyms is fucking blast for me. And then, I mean, you know, also no women directors. Like that's a bad thing too. But I feel like that's something that everybody will not everybody, but most people in

our general circles also subscribe to. Right. But that made me mad. I'm tired of black people only get it nominated for playing slaves when Lupita fucking played two roles in a movie and crushed it. Yeah. So that got me heated. Wait, which movie is it? Oh, yes. Okay. Yeah. She was great. She was great. I didn't love us as a movie, but she's very good. Yeah, she's great. Yeah. And then, you know, I didn't watch the hustler. So, you know, people are mad about JLo and shit, but JLo, that's right. Yeah. But yeah, man. Like, and then, you know, Joker, I'm not, I don't subscribe to the whole like social media Joker sucks thing, but it ain't 11 nominations. Good. Joker was fine. I think Joker was fine. I think Joker's like a three star. Yeah. Bug main said this today, but

he's like, and I, and I said this as soon as I saw the movie, but I was like, I never have to watch Joker again ever. Sure. Never have to see it again. Uncut gyms. I didn't love knives out, but I really loved uncut gyms. And I'm that's such trash. Yeah. Or so weird. And no sand, no love for the sand man. Yeah. And then he gave us, he gave a shout out to his mama, Bobby Boucher's mama. Yeah. She was surprised. Yeah. No, no, no Eddie and Dolomite. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was that was a fun movie too. I like Dolomite was fun, man. Not even that movie again, not even for costumes, that movie didn't get nominated. Dolomite. I watched the first like 40 minutes with my mom, and it was extremely awkward. I feel like he just like sings. He's

saying riddles about sucking dick and stuff. I was watching you with my mom. Got it. And she was like goodness. Companies come a long way in 40 years. We don't talk about sucking dicks anymore. We took away the rhymes at least. I'm going to suck this dick and then I'm going curse out Rick Dolomite. That is kind of it is a funny thing watching Dolomite where you're like, I don't know if I think I would like Dolomites. Like I like what he's like what he was and what he's right for. He was a voice for a lot of people that, but I'm like, I don't know if I would like his act, which is just like this act was kind of what his act is kind of bad. His act is kind of bad. It's like what is he saying and I'm black and I'm like what the fuck is this dude saying

like who liked this? That is a confusing thing with that. I was like, I guess this was a thing or whatever. The other time that makes me feel bad. He's like, I'm old and washed up and I haven't made it. And then in the movies like 40 and I'm like, yeah, fuck. Jeez. Likes. I know you're past that. So how do you feel? Are you 40? You passed 40 and 39. Okay. Mitch, Mitch jokes that I'm much older than he is where there's a two year age difference. I think it's less than two years. No, it's, it's much more than that. You should, you should have some sort of Dolomite career resurrection. Jesus Christ. All right. Well, listen, in 50 years on Netflix, Timothy Chalamet, we'll finally have aged up to me now. So yeah, I thought the wings, I thought

the wings were great. They were, they were there. Mitch, did you like your wings? Yes, I liked them. I liked it. I liked them. Well, you got, you got, you got a, you got chicken. You got a, you got a half white. So yes. Oh, okay. I got the half white meal, which we forgot the coleslaw. Now you were very excited to see what we thought about the mild sauce. Okay. And I'm just gonna, should I talk about it? Nick or not? Yes, please. So it was unlike anything really any other hot sauces that I've had. I mean, it was, it was very different. I don't look, I said this to you. I don't love sweet sauce. I don't love it. And this is a bit sweet. It's got a little bit of sweetness. It's got a little bit of sweetness to it. And despite that, but like I don't usually like that.

And, and, but this sauce is so unique and so good. It's really, really good that I can be honest if you'd like. No, no, no, for real. I because I leave. I will leave, but you can be honest, but I will walk out the door. No, I'm joking. I genuinely really, really liked it. I tried some of Nick's hot sauce when he gave me a wing. Yes. And I, and I think I preferred that just because there was a little bit more vinegary, a little bit more kick to it, even though it was better for me to have the mile because now I'm not going to have the rumblies, but the hot, the hot sauce was the hot sauce version of it. Still gave you that unique taste of the sauce and you, but just a little bit more vinegar and the kick to it. So it's not so the hot isn't super

hot though either. It's not super like a little bit of, of, of spice to it, but the sauce is, it's fantastic and it's great and it makes sense that this is, this is the why this place is so good. It's yeah. It's it's it's got a little bit of thickness to it and it's sounds like why it's 2020. I know I'm getting plump. I'm plumping up in a beer. You got a beard. You're mitching out over there. I know I got a big bushy beard and I'm a big ass and I'm becoming a large man. Do I have a big ass? I mean, you don't have a small, you know, you got a nice size as a nice size ass, you know saying, but I go at something I didn't know about. Be proud of your booty, man. So I start wearing like pants that say stuff on my ass. So people pink,

the pink sweats, sorry. So I start wearing juicy. Yeah, I think so. I think that's the logical groom for some fat farm, which is a, you guys remember fat farm? Oh yeah, ph fat farm. Yes. Yeah. I don't think I owned anything for fat farm, but I should get some juice. You know what I should say? Juicy on my ass. And then on the front side, not juicy. I think the yeah, what the, oh, the, I was going to say is even though it's got a little bit of sweetness to it, it's got a little, it's got more tang and I think the tang is what kind of like makes it, makes it sing. I really, I really enjoyed the sauce. Marissa, you, you hadn't had this before. I noticed you got your, you got your wings dry, but you got some sauce on the

side. What did you think of the whole experience? Yes, I do like a dry wing. I like to control my sort of sauce input to it. I do like a spicy wing, but you really recommend it. I do the mild and I really like the mild. I chose it over the hot sauce. Okay. Wow. There we go. There we go. Very controlling of your wings. I've now know about Marissa. It's also just easier. It's less of a mess. You know, you're not getting sauce on your fingers. That's fair because our hands smell great. Our smell, our smell like shit. I was saying that I used about a half pound of napkins. Yes. And then used three wet naps. So many wet naps in my hands are still just sticky and disgusting. They came by three times asking if we needed more napkins and we said yes each time and we used

all of them. There were no napkins. They came back one time. We were just with a hose and they started a hose, hose, weigher and I down and that's a wait. Is that all the food? Do we do it with a mac and cheese? Mac and cheese was good. Good. Good. Good. It was. You know what it was? It wasn't. It was like you'll go to a place like that and it will be a let down sometime. You know what I mean? Where it's like, Oh, there's a great chicken fried chicken place and then the mac and cheese side is just like this is like gusses for me. Gus is exactly what I was thinking of in my head. They have it because they're supposed to have it, but it's not like a dish they do well. Yes. And then when we were reading this, I was like, this is good. It's good. It's good. It's

not the best mac and cheese. It's good. Roscoe's mac and cheese is better. Roscoe's has good mac and cheese. You never get it there. Roscoe's is good. It's like is Southern baked mac and cheese, which this kind of was as well, but they do theirs well. They do theirs well. It was it was good. Yeah. A little oily, but, but, but good flavor to it. All I, I, I, I thoroughly enjoyed all everything we have. There was, there wasn't really honestly besides the okra, which just if it had a dipping sauce, I think it would have been great. There was no real stinker. There was nothing that was, there's nothing that stood out as bad to me. Right? Yeah. No, they're no real stinker. I didn't try to okra. So I can't speak to it. It was, it was, it was good.

Yeah. I don't like okra. So I wouldn't even give it a chance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm glad you guys kind of liked it. It looked like it needed some extra kick to it. It needed something on. Yeah. Oh, we didn't touch on the fries, which are underneath the chicken and they, they, they take the brunt of that sauce. They get really, really soaked up, but they're good fries. Their quality. Here's my question. I didn't finish mine. I thought the, I thought the fries were really good. They kind of drizzle it in that hot sauce. They're trying to make you, you're getting that mild sauce on everything. You get it on everything. On everything. Yeah. You get it on everything. And the fries are the one thing where I can feel the brunt of the fry,

of the sauce. Like on the chicken, because especially once you get, it doesn't get on all sides of the chicken. Yeah. So even if it's too much sauce, you still got a lot of that chicken, which is dry. So you can get a nice balance. Yeah. But when they put too much sauce on it, for me, the fries is where I feel it, because it just soaks. It just swims in that fucking sauce. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the fries were great. Everything, everything was, everything was quality and also the service was great. Yeah. They came up to us and apologized and they didn't need to apologize. I never would have even thought that the food was taking that long. No, but it was a good heads up. They told us we apologized for the wait when we were only

sitting for like five minutes. Yeah. And I'm just like, man, in Chicago, we had to call Harold's an hour before we won our food. So we not wait. And so like, but here's the thing, the Hollywood prices though. Yes. Yes. The Hollywood prices. This is more expensive than Chicago's Harold. Yeah. Like I got a six piece, a six piece is like $8 in Chicago. It was like 14. Yeah. Yeah. I noticed that they're like for two more for like the difference between four and six wings was like it went up what like four or even more or it was at $6. Yes. Almost. Yeah. And it was like, so like even $2 a wing is that's a lot. I mean, like, and who nobody get, I mean, some people are, but most people, especially if you're from Chicago, you're not getting a four

piece. Yeah. Getting a six piece or eight. Yeah. So they, and they take advantage of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely thing to be, to be aware of if you go to this particular location, but let's get to our final thoughts on Harold. So here's how this will work. We'll each go around. We'll say our, our closing thoughts on this chain and then given a fork rating in an Obama impression, of course, in Obama. Yes. In Obama impression and give it a, you don't have to do that and give it a fork rating from zero to five forks. Jackie's, you are a guest. It's actually, it's actually, it's actually a rule. And if you don't do in a bottom impression, your review doesn't count. Okay. Now let me ask you guys this. Yes. Do you want me to rate this specific one

or the chain or this specific experience? Great question. We normally do it as if we're rating the chain as a whole, but what your most recent experience will of course inform that. Okay. Yeah. Because, well, uh, my fellow Americans, uh, uh, had heralds today and, uh, you know, it's normally a five, five, five forks and, uh, that's not going to change. But, uh, today's experience was, uh, yes, you can. Uh, yes you can. Today's experience was a four and a four point five, uh, because it was a little too saucy for me today. A little too saucy. Uh, God bless America. Michelle, I'm coming home.

That was perfect. Is that right? Did I do it right? I like it. Right. So two out five, five is the chain for me. Always will be. Today was about a four point five. It was a little too saucy for me, but I know that going in that sometimes you're going to get, you know, you might, you may get a batch that isn't as good as the last batch you had. Right. But unlike most people that are getting mad at that, I appreciate that because that means you are getting fresh food from somebody who is taking the time to cook it and not just like you're getting a chain like meal or if that makes sense. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's me. That's my, that's mine. Um, right. Go ahead, Spoo man. Oh, shit. It was your rule. I know.

Michelle. Oh, God. Uh, uh, uh, uh, Hey, I think I'll take over the review for a year. Oh boy, Bill Clinton. It's me. Bill, how'd you get here so fast? How do you think? Oh boy. You're on Epstein's private plane, aren't you? Me and Malcolm. Is he working on a new podcast episode with me? Oh wow. How about that? We're reviewing the blue dresses. You're reviewing blue dresses. Yeah, that's right.

Well, I don't think we can talk any further about this without breaking the rule that we established earlier. You know how they deal with stains, things like that. Okay. All right. Yeah, as long as we keep stains, general, I think we're okay. Anyways, I really love, I love heralds. I think it's a really great project in place. Uh, the sauce is good. I love the sauce. It's the truth. You know what? It wouldn't be that big of a deal if I had to just throw in some heralds sauce on them. Oh God, this sucks. I got to talk about the restaurant for real for a second. It's very, it's great. It's a great restaurant. I uh, I in my heart, I feel like it's a four, four and a half forks, which is a great, which right now go to play club love for sure a golden play club. In my

mind, I don't know if it's platinum or or where it falls in this ring. The cause it's it. We sat in a big booth. The service was great. Nick, you got a lemonade. That's true. There was a sugar rim. There was a sugar rim on your nice. That was a nice touch. It was a delicious lemonade. I had a Coca-Cola. I'm hungover. They gave me reef. They constantly were just coming and asking for refills. If we need anything, we they, they, they were so nice. It was, it was, it was, it was great. It was, it was, it was a great experience. I had a lot of fun there. I just don't know if it's five or four and a half yet, honestly. And I, and I, and I think maybe with a few more visits, I'd be able to figure that out for right now. I'm going four and a half, which is a great

score. Very good, but, but, but the, but the mild sauce is really good and different. It's a, I feel like it's that sort of thing. If you're in the mood for it and you're in for your, you're in for fry chicken, you want something a little different. It's a great place to go. Yeah. Wow. Very good score. Can I say one more thing to just one real quick thing? Please. If you're in Chicago, go check this place out. And if you're in LA, you can check it out too. But yeah, the one other reason why I think is something you should check out is because one, it is black owned and it is one of the few places that franchise to black people. Yeah. And like every franchisee is a black owner, which is dope. You don't get too many places like that around the country. So

that's also supporting like, you know, black businesses, which we can always keep supporting, which is dope. Hell yeah. Yeah. I'll say it. Hold on. Four and a half forks. That was my this Obama. Four and a half. Four and a half works. I've been spending time in Texas. Yeah, it was it was this place is great. We didn't talk about the the the cartoon of the man chasing the chicken with the ax. Oh yeah. That's a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah. That's Harold. That's the depiction of Harold. Harold looks he's a he looks like a maniac. Yeah. That I mean that they have made that smaller and smaller over the years because the first few heralds when I was growing

up, that thing was prevalent on display was on display. This dude chopping up a fucking chicken with that. I'm kind of rooting for the chicken in that scenario. Kind of a little bit, a little bit putting in the customer's head exactly what is taking place. Yeah. All right. I guess I'll do my review now. Good evening. Tonight I can report to the American people and to the world that the Doughboys have conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda, and also eat some chicken wings. Walter Cronkite. Is that you? Wow. I didn't know how bad we'd be at an impression of Obama. I don't do impressions. You don't know. I don't do impressions. I thought that's like what I thought that's

what I know. I'm the man of a thousand voices. People think of me for my many different impressions. Peter Griffin. Hey, Bart Simpson here. Hillary Clinton. Hey, it's me, President Donald Trump. Wow. That's somehow worse than your Obama. Yeah, that was Bernie Sanders. That was Bernie Sanders. You got some Bernie bros, man. The, it's fucking great. It's very good. I think the, I think it was a little over sauced. I think we kind of, you know, and I think the, the apps were less exciting to me than the actual chicken. But as far as what this chain does, if it's a, if it's a fried

chicken chain, the fried chicken is great and that, and that it has this mild sauce on it. It's so distinct and flavorful and wonderful. Um, yeah, I think just some execution issues maybe might have dialed this one off, but we're in the hand holding club on this one, four and a half forks as well. So welcome to the golden plate club, Harold. Well deserved. It's time for a segment. We got a bunch of chips and we're going to eat them all. It's another edition of chips and hail rest you rangers. So I hear, I hear, uh, chips and hail is going on Disney plus. Is that, is that true? Yeah. It's going into the vault, uh, after that. So enjoy this last edition of it. But

yeah, after this, it'll be in, it'll be in Disney plus paywall. We're putting chips and hail in the Disney vault. Yeah. We're going to, I mean, that's the kind of how the Disney plus thing works is that they, they vault things sometimes. So like, you know, home alone was there just for the Christmas season and now it's back in the vault, back in the vault. Damn. Yeah. Walt and his vault. What he does. Who knows what he's up to in that? Walt and his vault. That motherfucker. Uh, Mitchie, you got some chips for us. These were a Christmas gift. Wags. Whoa. Oh, Keoh. The Keoh, the Keoh chip from Ireland. This is an Irish potato chip. Um, it's a grown with love in Ireland. We got the,

we got just a pinch of Irish Atlantic sea salt, delicious Irish potato crisps hand cooked on our family farm. Wow. And why is like, I told you that, uh, I found out from my, my ancestry.com updated. I'm a, I am now 100% Irish. There you go. So that means 100% chance that I was in bread that some cousins were not only in my 100% Irish, it is all Southern Ireland. Right. Like it all is just in Southern Ireland. It's, yeah, it's like, it's why I'm a monster. It's, it's, it's fucked up. It explains the boondocks. See it's a poster that's now in your apartment. It appeared. Yeah. It just materialized. I don't know where I just showed up on my wall. Yeah. Um, but, uh, but, but, uh, yeah, 100%, 100% Irish. I got these Irish chips.

Let's open them up. Let's open them up. Let's try it. Generally, I only eat chips that were grown from hate with, from Greece. Uh, so I'm interested. I'm interested to see what these chips are going to be. I love those hate Greek, Greek chips. Those hateful Greek chips, man. I wish I had like just like 5%, like if I was like 5% Greek or, you know what I mean? Just any sort of just want to be a little bit not pure Irish. Yeah. Like any, anything else that would like help my blood move through my body better, like, like anything, you know, that is, that's that Irish self-hatred. That's how you know. Well, it's true. I'm a fucking monster. And also my, my family, uh, when I was reading up on it, they all moved because of the Irish,

you're just going to make a joke that my family, because they caused the Irish, yeah, that's where it was headed. So, but then you get a step on it. It's fine. All right. All right. Okay. Okay. Good size. I get the smallest chip. So there's a little little on the front of the bag, which is a lot of fun. Um, yeah, it's a ton of fun. Uh-oh. I see some faces. Okay. You guys send those back this way. Let me try. I don't know why I took one chip. I thought that's what we were supposed to do. No. Well, you need another one because I do the face. I was referring to you specifically. Yeah. What am I saying? Okay. A lot of crinkling, crinkling rather and chewing. Apologies to anyone out there

with me. So phony out. I, uh, I really, I like these chips. They're like light and they're, they're not particularly salted as a thing. They don't seem to have a lot of seasoning on them, but they're well fried and they're, they're crisp. Let's hear it. Go ahead. Shit on my, my ancestors. Like I said, I prefer my chips grown from hate in Greece. No, I don't love them. Uh, they're a little too, they're a little too like, I don't even know. They're a little, they don't taste done. Do you know what I think it is? It's like, um, it's, it's, it's, they're very crisp. They're very kind of hard. It's almost heavy. You know how when you have like vegetable chips? Yes. Yes. They're, they almost have consistency

like that. They're like, they're, they're, they're kind of tougher chips. I do like them. I like that crisp. Yeah. Look at the crispiness. They're, they're interesting. They're definitely a different and I could use more salt. Yeah. That's a thing. That's the way to use more salt. I, I'm a, you know, I'm a salt guy. I like salt. So yeah, you know, they okay. They okay. I like them. I, I, I, uh, my first bite into them, I wasn't sure, but I, I enjoy them. Mars, how do you feel? They do take, have the consistency of vegetable chips. Like I feel like I bite into it, but it doesn't actually break apart. It just kind of gets a little soggy between my teeth and I, I didn't really like that, but otherwise they're fine. Okay. You're all being nice. So the two

white guys loved it. That's, that's that. That was an alt title for doble. And we get, and we get two white guys love it. And we each get two votes a piece because that's how things work. Wow. So we won in a landslide. We won four to two. So that's how Trump did. I definitely agree. I could, could use a little bit more salt, but the there's only so much fucking salt in the sea salt. What do you want? Stop being so defensive of these irish. Oh no, man. Grease got all the salt in the world. I don't know what's up with that iris. So well, that was tips and hail. Just like a restaurant by your feedback. Let's up to the

feedback. Today's email comes to us from Lily T. Lily writes, I have a question about food and traveling. When I travel with my family, my mom always wants us to go to an embassy suites because she loves the breakfast service there with the omelet station. Do you have any hotel breakfast that you factor in while making travel plans? What's your breakfast routine when on the road? Love the show. Hashtag spoon nation. Hell yeah. Jackie said, you talked about your cruise ship food routine. Do you do anything if you're staying in a hotel or you're just, you're on the road in general. What do you, what's your breakfast plan? I generally like to find, it depends on how long I'm there. I will go. I will try to find

like whatever the best breakfast place is. I don't love to eat the hotel. I mean, if it has continental food or waffle maker, I'll do that for sure. I got to do that at least once. I love a good Belgian waffle from a hotel, but I generally try to go find the closest good breakfast restaurant and go to town. Go to town. Why are you are such a guy that does the breakfast at the hotel? I like the hotel breakfast. If we're at a hotel, especially if it's complimentary, because I'm just like, that's just like the, the value seeker side of me. I'm just like, Oh, I can't, I can't pass this up. But I also eat a, I generally eat a pretty light breakfast.

Like my breakfast is usually like some, some yogurt with some berries and a cup of coffee. So I can eat it. I'm a big breakfast guy. You like a big breakfast. I eat, I feel a plate with some breakfast food. So if I'm, if I'm like on the road or on vacation, then I'm doing big breakfast. When I was in Disney, you know what I had? The Mickey waffles, which were, they're so good. Those are, I, speaking of Mickey waffles, I asked them. So, uh, what, what, what, what battery y'all use? And they told me, and I now own it. I buy it. You can buy it at cost plus, um, world market before it goes back in the vault though, fucking walt, a bunch of batter in the fucking vault. Yeah, it's good because I love Mickey

waffles. It's such a good taste to it. When, when, when they come out hot and for those and it's also reminds me when I was a kid there and the, the Mickey waffles always been a great thing. I would, they used to be bigger because they're always tiny now. You yeah, they do mostly many, but you can go to a couple places and have the bigger ones. Yeah, I think also it could be much that you're bigger. So maybe in comparison, it's like, wait, look so small. It's like when Andre, the giant is holding a beer can, that sort of thing. Uh, uh, I don't, I'm with you. I'd rather find a local place that has interest in breakfast, living in a hotel for the last three months. Oh yeah. More expensive than anybody. I, you know what's crazy? I don't know if I ever ate breakfast

at the hotel. I would get, I buy a yogurt parfait downstairs at the, there's like a, basically like a kind of like a half Starbucks, but they, they had their own stuff, like the yogurt parfait they, they made there every day and the yogurt parfait was great. But besides that, I think I got a bagel there once, but every other place, like anytime I had, I went to a couple, uh, homegrown, which is a breakfast place in Atlanta. I've heard of that. Oh man, it was, it was, it was great. It was, it was, and I got like a, I think I got chicken and biscuits for breakfast with the gravy on it. And I got some, a couple of eggs, Oriesi. Oh, it was fucking great. And see, you're missing that stuff when you, if you're eating at the hotel, right? And I did get,

I got dinner and room service because there was just days that you, that I didn't want to do it, but that this is basically just from being there for so long, right? That I tried almost everything on the menu. I think if anything, I'll do late night room service at hotels. That's the best. That's it. That's it. And it's just convenience and you get it in your room and it's great. Yeah. But besides that, I'm not, I'm not looking to do too much stuff in the hotel. That's true. Unless it had, unless it's a specific place that has like a restaurant, right? Right. Exactly. If it has a restaurant in there, I'll do it. And like I said, I will do a free waffle. Yeah. If, if they have it, but I'll try because I like free too. I like free too,

but I will make a note to at least try a good local spot. Yeah. If I'm out somewhere. Yeah. I've never gotten room to room service. I'm too scared that they're going to kill you. I'm just like, I feel like I'm going to do it wrong where I've never, like I've never had the experience of ordering room service. So I get to, you know, you can get free room service to cruise. Oh, wow. Yeah. You're not going to do it. If you have a question, can I just say like, I just can tell you that that's the dweebiest shit I've ever heard in my life that you don't get room service because you're scared. I didn't, I didn't claim it was brave. So you, you are a guy who claims to like hotel food. You've never, you never get room. No,

I don't like rooms. I wouldn't, I don't wouldn't know where to begin. What are you talking about? I just wouldn't know what to do with the phone. I'd pick it up and I don't, I just set it back down again. I've thought about doing it before and I just don't know. I can't get up the gusto. Oh no, you're missing out. Yeah. What the fuck is wrong with you? If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you email us at Doughboy's podcast at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Go Dough. That's 830 4636844. And to get the Doughboys double or weekly bonus episode, join the golden or platinum play club at patreon.com slash Doughboy's. You know what we should do with 1-800 Go,

what is it? Is it 1-800 Go Dough? No, it's not an 800 number, 830 Go Dough. Oh, 830 Go Dough. You know what we should do? Like back when they did in the 90s, it should be like, uh, like $3 per minute. Like you're calling Freddy. Yeah, exactly. Welcome to the Halloween hotline, bitch. You guys are making money. You think you're Patreon here. Uh, Jackie's Neil, thank you so much for taking us to Harold's. Thank you so much for having me. Good to share your afternoon with us. Anything you would like to, uh, to plug it this time? Uh, sure. Uh, I'll plug a couple of things. First things first. I've just decided 2020. I'm going to be that dude who was like, I want followers on Twitter. So follow me. Follow me at Jackie's Neil on Twitter

and Instagram. Um, I'm sure you guys will post my name, J-A-C-Q-U-I-S-N-E-A-L, uh, Culture Kings, obviously shown, Earwolf, uh, but not a new show. We're 200 episodes deep guys. It's a old vet show on a new network, baby. Backlog available still. It's still available. Yeah, man. Subscribe, Culture Kings. We have a lot of good guests. Uh, you guys, you guys got to come back through, got to come back through. That episode got a write up. You wouldn't put us in the category of good guests though. You guys were a great guest. You, you, we, we've had like four or five write ups on Vulture and you guys got us like the main fucking write up when you guys came on. So yeah, it was a good one. It was a good one. And then yeah, I do a show. You do the headline

was, uh, Culture Kings worst episode yet. It was, it was, but look, any press is good press. So, you know, it was like Culture Kings. This show should end. Uh, they tried to take a swing, but it didn't work. And then I have a show at UCB every month called past that blunt. Uh, it's a whole bunch of black performers and we smoke weed in the back and then we come out and we pass our free blunt blunts and snacks to the audience and you guys hot box, UCB, Franklin, and we do an hour of comedy. That show is very fun. Oh, yes. You did go one time. It's a very fun show. So come check that out. Tiger should go to that show. Read it man. It is at midnight though. Oh yeah. No, he'll never go. I go to bed 9 30. Uh, hey, that'll do for this episode.

And I'll see you next time for this week on Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Walker. Happy way too fast. See ya. Sources for this week's intro include the first family of fried chicken by Mike Sula, chicken King Harold P. Pierce, 70 by Keenan Heiss, smoking, choking and chowing with the king from shy bbq king. Laverne Burnett, a link to the early days of Harold's chicken chain has died at 83 by Marino Donald and the Harold's chicken website. Full list of sources available in the episode description. That was a hate gun podcast.