Doughboys - Hokkaido Ramen Santouka with Jeff Kenji Sloniker

Episode Date: June 17, 2016

The 'boys welcome actor and comedian Jeff Kenji Sloniker (Key & Peele, Silicon Valley) to discuss his childhood summers in Japan and to review international chain Hokkaido Ramen Santouka. Plus, the debut of a saucy new segment, The Slice is Right.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The culturally indispensable website Wikipedia is known for its obsessively comprehensive cataloging of highly specific minutiae, from the ecology of Star Trek planets to the sexual appetites of classical composers. Yet on the Wikipedia page dedicated to a well-known Japanese noodle soup, the history section begins simply and cryptically, quote, the origin of ramen is unclear. What is known is that the typically chicken or pork broth-based noodle soup exploded in popularity after World War II when the importation of inexpensive American wheat made the hearty, calorie-dense dish plentiful and affordable, mostly known in the US because of the instant

variety pioneered by Japanese scientist Momofuku Ando. In Japan, ramen restaurants are ubiquitous, and in recent decades they have come to the states in areas with dense expat populations. In March of 1988, a Japanese chef named Hitoshi Hadanaka opened a nine-seat ramen shop of his own at Asahikawa, declaring his mission statement to his family as, I'm going to make delicious ramen. The shop expanded into a sprawling sensation across six provinces in Japan, and now has several international outlets across Asia and North America.

This week on Doughboys, Hokkaido Ramen Santuka. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. You're a part of FeralAudio.com. If you'd like to support us, go to the website, click Support, and use our Amazon affiliate link. It helps out the podcast, helps the network. But right now, let me introduce myself. I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host.

Before photograph come to life, Mike Mitchell, the Spoon Man. What the fuck, man? That insult was courtesy of Tyler Moss. Thanks, Tyler. If you have an insult you'd like me to read on the air. Hey, Tyler. I'm going to kick the shit out of you. Email roastspoonman at gmail.com.

How are you, Spoon Man? Not great. After Tyler's bullshit comments, I'm going to fucking kick his ass. It's time these fucking Doughboys listener fucking nerds got their asses kicked. I'm not going to let them insult me like that. Fuck you and fuck your fucking insult Spoon Man game. I'm looking forward to you flying across the country to houses of individual listeners knocking on their doors and then just getting the shit kicked out of you.

Tyler Moss. Who I'm sure, he sounds like a small pussy. He's going to pick my ass. I'm going to bash his head in with a rock. Moss and rock go well together, Tyler. Anyways, to all of Spoon Nation out there. Let me see here. Here we go.

I take coffee when Monica takes her dresses with a little bit of cream on it. You guys can't handle it. Deadpool is the worst of them all. One quarter point. I hate the force away. The first time I ever orgasmed, my father saw it happen. My town. Not any of my five towns.

Alright, thanks for that nice little drop from Heaven Landman. Heaven Landman sent that in. Evan, I don't have a Twitter handle for you, but I appreciate it. Get fans excited for that upcoming Ghostbusters movie that hits this July. Is July is when it comes out? You're very mad about that, right, Mitch? Oh, god damn it. Shut the fuck up.

I almost said girl Ghostbusters. God damn it. I hope that this new Ghostbusters is great. I want movies to be good. Why wouldn't you want a movie to be good? 100%. It's fun to hate. It's fun to hate watch things, but on balance, life is better when the movie you're watching is good.

I agree. I want things to be good. Yeah. And a friend of ours, Katie Dippold, friend of the podcast, wrote the movie. Dippold, one of the funniest. She's one of the funniest. She's great. And I hope it's a big success.

Godspeed, new Ghostbusters. And Dippold, Katie Dippold asked to be on the podcast, rejected us. You asked her and she said no. She said no fucking way. I tip my cap to her to this day. She's smart. I probably respect her more than any prospective guest for deciding this is not worth her time. Apologies to our guest who we're about to introduce in a few seconds.

You know what? I'm going to make an apology too. When we were talking about Ithaca, I said Sammy's Wings. It's actually Napoli's Wings. Okay. They have great, when Napoli's has great wings. So I just want to apologize to the guys who I lived in this dungeon with. Edie Kinkel, Joseph Randy Aranda, Mike White, Dank, Paul Gangrosa, Luke Michaels, Luker.

His nickname was Poove. Nate White or Oids as they called him. Evan Novick, Joe Rusty. Did I hit everybody? I think I did. Timmy Greenfield, I got to apologize to all those guys I went to school with. Because I really fucked up bad there. So yeah, just want to let it know that it was Napoli's instead of Sammy's.

Jesus fucking Christ. What? List off like 12 housemates from a dozen years ago. They were great guys. I'm sure they were. They're better men than you. You have a piece of shit. And you know what?

Almost every one of them has kids. You should get your fucking seed to work. I don't know. I don't know if me having kids is a net positive for the world. I think this seed maybe should be the end of the line. Would you get your baby a gun-shaped pacifier? Anyway, I hope you have. If you want a kid, I hope you have one one day.

And Uncle Mitch is going to love them. Oh, right back at you, bitch. You'll never meet my children. Let's introduce our guest. We're very, very happy to have an actor-comedian from Key and Peele in Silicon Valley at many places. One of the funniest guys around. Jeff Kenji Slonaker. Hi, Jeff.

Hey, how's it going? Great, Jeff. Oh, my God. Thanks for being here. Yeah. It's a relief because I think Jeff can make fun of both of us. You want me to start? Because sitting here watching you guys, it's good.

You know, I'm a big fan of the show. I've listened to like three. And watching Mike play those little, what are they called? Drops. Yeah, sorry. I know that. Watching him play the drop, you forget that he has an iPhone 6 Plus because he's a giant. And he's looking and he's giggling to himself while he's doing it and playing it.

And then like the biggest thing is like, he's like, you're such a bully on this show, really? Yeah. And you know, he is the classic bully from those 80s, like after-school specials. Yeah. Hey, back off, buddy. He goes, whoa, sorry, sorry, whoa, sorry, let me find a giant rock died on there. I think that off the air, you know what? I've kind of, I've gotten this reputation as a bully on this podcast.

It comes from being completely aggravated with Weiger and all the dumb shit that he says. I'm a nice man off this podcast. In fact, a lot of people think I'm cool. I'm a cool guy. In what way? What do you mean by cool? I'm a cool, I think people like me. They like to be around with me.

I'm like a George W. Bush. In his heyday, right? People want to get a beer with me. And I'm a nice man. Jeff, you can attest that. I'm a nice guy. He's a very nice man, yeah. And I've gotten this, I want to be the cool Spoon Man again.

I want to be a cool, chill guy. Which, you know, it usually comes around when you beg for people to think that you're cool. It's the best way for people to start thinking you're cool. Yeah, it's a nice breaker. I'll tell you how much. Well, hold on a second. What is this, the thing about composers, sexuality? What were you talking about?

I was just looking for a very specific minutia that they have on Wikipedia. But yeah, they have very, very minor details. Like super long articles about 19th century women in the British women's liberation movement or something like that. Important to start with. But there's all sorts of detail about very minor stuff. I was confused by that. I get that now.

Yeah. No, it's just like two specifics. I don't know. There were two random specifics. I don't even know if there is an article. Look at the exact, what was the phrase? Let me look up my old thing. Highly specific minutia from the ecology of Star Trek planets to the sexual appetites

of classical composers. Those are just two very specific things. Classical composers were very, they were very sexual. They were horny. They were horny. And they were often bisexual, right? Like it was like... They had flair.

Yeah, yeah. They liked to, it's funny to think of that. Rock and roll. Like, you know, it's... We're just thinking of Amadeus, right? Yes, I think that's all. Is there another one? I've never seen someone give up on comedy so much.

There was two examples. Jesus. Also, if you look up cuckold on Wikipedia. Is there, is your picture featured at the top of the Wikipedia page? No, there's no etching or engraving or woodcut of my face. Hey, Spoon Nation, if one of you out there can set that up. When do you get his face in the cuckold article? Oh, that is horrible.

A Wikipedia editor is going to undo that so fast and your IP will be banned, so... Why not? You're that vandalism. You're a known cuckold. Who else is there? Not a known cuckold. What is... Can you explain?

I know what it is. I go, yeah, yeah, I know what that is, but exactly what is it? A cuckold is someone who gets off on seeing someone have sex with their significant other. Nick is... Well, look, that's a guy with a cuckold fetish. Yes. A cuckold... Like in Shakespearean terms, the cuckold, or in the Canterbury Tales, the cuckold is just the guy who someone else fucked his wife.

And like, now you're a cuckold. Where are the cuckold horns, you will. Yeah. And Natalie, I want to make this clear. Natalie's never partaking in any of this. She just married a cuckold, and that's all that happened. So I'm an aspiring cuckold. She...

I'm gonna dig her's cross so this will happen someday. I think you're the most famous cuckold. Can't be true. You are now. Jeff, so I... We've got a very interesting, very specific chain that I want to get into in a bit. But first I want to talk about Japanese food in general. And so what...

Obviously, ramen is the focus of this restaurant, but where do you stand on Japanese food as a whole? Is it one of your favorite cuisines? Well, I'll tell you, it is. And a little thing that a lot of people don't know is I'm half Japanese, and I would spend every summer, because I was such a bad kid, my mom would send me to Japan every summer. So I'd just... Every summer. Every summer.

So I'd go to like markets with my grandma, and I'd get... I'd now to speak Japanese, and it was just this really... At the time, I was like, oh, shit, I gotta go back to Japan. And now as I get older, I'm like, oh, what an amazing experience that I had, and I didn't get to really enjoy, because I was a kid that just wanted to be home riding my bikes with my friends. But I saw the evolution of Japanese food, because when I would eat it at home, like when my mom would cook it, everyone would go, ew, you're eating green paper, or why would you

eat raw fish? And now we can get, obviously, sushi and Ralph's. Like you couldn't do that before, and people were like, oh, no, I'm not eating fish, and I'm not eating raw fish. Yeah. There's a real weird... There's a very, I think, useful cultural time capsule that the movie is not age well at all.

You watch it now, and it seems racist, but there's a Ron Howard film called Gung Ho starring Michael Keaton that was made in the 80s. And it's about basically this Japanese auto maker buys this plant in Michigan, and it's just about this culture clash, but it's so funny to see them, like, there's like scenes, it's like from the 80s, like 30 years ago, and there's like scenes of Mitch's fumbling at the floor for some reason. Oh, he just dropped his phone. I dropped my phone.

Or heart attack. You've got to be on high alert of it. If you just go without saying anything. It's my nightmare to die during a dope race, but I mean, it would be a sweet release of death. Legend. Who replaces you? Oh, it's a bag of laundry.

Well, you have now retrieved your iPhone 6 Plus, which fits into your baseball mitzvah like a book of matches. He still has to like work at hitting each button so tiny. What the fuck? You're such a giant. Make fun of this robot next to me. You did that opening. I think if you challenged me and Mike to read that, we'd be here all night.

There's no way we could do that. No way. There's some tricky verbiage in there. Verbiage fuck off. I don't think I'm necessarily nimble at getting all the words out as you hear me sometimes fumbling on this podcast. But yeah, I don't know. People who are like news readers, that sort of just that exercise always gives me respect

for people who are just like reading the news and how they are able to do that for like 30 minutes without fucking up. I'm like, Jesus Christ, that's so hard. But anyway, gung ho. I think it's pretty easy. Anyway, it's hard. Gung ho, it's like there are scenes of like them making fun of eating with chopsticks and they're just like, there's like a guy who like grabs two pencils and like makes squinty

eyes like a white guy and is like making fun of a dude freeing with chopsticks, which is so like, that's so batshit that that was that recent. I told Jeff this because I saw when I first came to UCB, I've seen you do a Japanese character before and I think that like I was like back in the day, I was like, I thought it was it's hilarious. Obviously, Jeff is very funny. And I was like, oh, that's like borderline. And then I forgot you are half Japanese, like I forget that you're 50% Japanese.

Your mother is from Japan, right? And was she born in America or did she come over? Born in Japan, came over when she was 19 and she would like cry and look at the ocean and wish she could be on a boat going back to Japan. Oh my God. Yeah. It's like tragic. It was like she lived the American dream and now like she got me through college kind

of thing. That was her only dream. I think she should have dreamed a little bit further because I came to LA to die. I have a bag of dust and that's my career. That's all of us. We've all made a terrible decision, but I think you're doing great and it's one of the funniest guys and also knows his food well because and listen, people are we're going to get to some of your classic favorite places, but we're going to use this episode.

We know this is a specific place and I said this to Jeff and then he mentioned that there was one in Boston and I got excited about it. Like you said, yeah, I told Mike, I was like, Hey, this is a Japanese thing and I want to be stupid and just do my race kind of thing. And then Mike's like, Oh, I don't know. I don't know. And I was like, what about Benihana? He goes, I don't know about Benihana.

And I was like, well, there's this ramen place and there's one in Boston. He's like, yeah, let's do it. I'll pick you up. I'll take you. I'll treat you to. What can I say? I love Boston and you know your food really well and we'll get into the specifics of it, is ramen one of your favorite Japanese foods?

Is that like? I think ramen, the weird thing is it's becoming so popular. It's hit its peak, I think, and it's just hanging out there for a little bit. But before this popularity hit, ramen was known obviously as the dollar for five. You live off it. You kill yourself because you can't digest it kind of thing, but it was poor people food. And when I would say, oh, I love ramen, everyone's like, yuck, that's disgusting. And I think that's a shift in the states, I feel like, within the past 15 years or so.

Because I remember being in college and early 2000s and yeah, the only ramen I knew, this is in LA where there's a ton of ramen restaurants now, but the only ramen I knew is what you'd get at Vons for, they were literally, it was 10 cents for a pack of ramen. Yeah, and a very, very different obviously, what's it called, the ramen, what's ramen called? Top ramen. Top ramen. Yeah, top ramen.

Yeah. I also hate, I hate when college kids are like, oh, so broke, I don't eat ramen. I'm like, unless you're a part of the 15% of kids who go to college, you're a rich college kid. Yeah, totally. And you just eat ramen, fuck you. You can't say that you're, you just decided not to go to your fucking dining hall and you had ramen.

You can't talk about that. This is totally off topic, but I remember when I was in college, I went to lunch at the strip club. Like everyone's like, let's go to the strip club, eat lunch, and I was like, all right, that sounds awful, but I'll go. It was like barbecue burgers or whatever, and it was $10 and you got the day shift. Stokers. Yeah, strippers, you know.

And I remember this stripper coming on and she was like, you know, pretty like whatever you like about strippers. And then the next day I was in college, I was on the campus and I was walking and this girl dropped her books and I went down to help her and I was picking up her books and I looked up right into her eyes and I'm like, oh my God, I just saw you at the strip club yesterday. Oh my God. And that was like that one moment where you go, oh strippers do strip to put themselves

through college. Pay for college. Those are 100%, those are people who are eating ramen because they can't afford it, but I got sick of too many white collared fucking assholes being like, I gotta eat ramen. Sure, sure. They suck. Oh yeah. All right.

Take it easy. But yeah, I get what you're saying. There is like, I feel like a little bit of poverty cosplay that takes place among college kids of like trying to pretend like they're not getting, you know, a grand a month from mom and dad. But yeah. White collared cook. Like I work a nine to five in an office, then come home and watch my wife get railed

by other guys. Like crank off. That's your dream scenario. Natalie's just too, too great of a person. She shouldn't be with you. This, this, this moving in, that's what those guys do, you know, they go, oh, you know, she deserves better. I'm just kidding.

You want to go shopping together? I don't know if I mentioned this on the podcast before, but when Mitch and I were in New Orleans, we're both in New Orleans for a mutual friends wedding and Natalie was there with us. And there was a point me and Natalie and Mitch went out for dinner and I think Natalie had excused herself to go to the restroom and Mitch leaned to me and said, uh, I'm going to push you into a grave and take Natalie home as Mrs. Mitchell. And you nervously laughed it off. I can't tell.

I can't tell if you're making up this story to make me look weird or if I actually did do that. You actually did do this. We have been drunk. Caller gets tighter and you're like, stop pulling me close. He came up with a plan. We're going to find a fucking wide ass grave. That's the only hold up you fat fuck.

You joke as if I've never, like I didn't lose weight. There's a point where it's heavier that I lost. I lost the weight. Yeah. You're a sell out. You're still a fat. You're a sell out but you're still a fat fuck. I've got to know you more when you've lost weight than when you were bigger.

Were you the same person? Like same personality? You speak and talk like a skinny person. Oh, interesting. You know what? I do have an issue with that because I feel like fatter guys, people are just like, they're dumb. Like you just get this thing that they're like, they're dumber.

Yeah. And I get that and I'm like, yeah, whatever. And I can't, you know what? Sometimes my brain doesn't work and I can't formulate a sentence. So they're right. I'm dumb but it's a nasty reputation and it's hard to shake and it is specifically because like you're a big beefy guy and people just have that in their heads. It's a thing that's been happening for years.

Okay. Let me say this. I'm a fat guy, right? I'm in that territory. I'm on that side. You also lost weight. I lost weight. We've all had roller coasters.

Come back with vengeance but when I'm looking at both of you sitting over there and you said, pick the stupid guy, I would point to you. God damn it. Who do you want to like compete in a quiz show with? I'd go, Mike, hands down, no problem. You know what? You're probably right. Also, who do you want to compete in a foot race with?

I'll race you any day. Jeff, I will say, I saw some of your bad boy attitude at one point. We were in Matt Bessers' sketch writing class together. This is about eight years ago, at least if not more. You got up in the middle of the class and this is one of the hardest I ever laughed ever. Matt Besser, who's been on the podcast, he's great, he was the Krispy Kreme episode. He was giving notes in the class and you stood up and you went up to the front of the class.

This is while he was just giving notes and you kind of like were hunched over and you went up to his desk, which was a square block and there was change on the desk. I don't know if you remember this and you took the change off and you left. You left the room and Besser was confused and then about five minutes later, you came back in the room with a bag of chips in the tray. I laughed more than I laughed at any sketch the entire year. It was so fucking funny. I have no memory of that.

You might have, I don't know what mindset you were in, but it was the funniest. It was so funny. It was better than every shitty sketch we read. Do you remember this part of that class because Nick Wegner, my friend that's in the midnight show with me, always loves to bring up this one. Besser asked me a question. I answered wrong and he looked at me, shook his head and goes, and you want to teach at my theater.

I do remember that. I remember that and I was like, oh, this is very awkward and you want to teach at my theater. You want to teach at my theater. I was like, ooh. It definitely felt like a discussion that you guys, I was thinking would happen outside of the classroom or something later. Well, here's the flip side.

I never asked to teach at that theater. I never did. I was like, what? This is horrible that you just called me out, but I have no idea what you're talking about. I feel like a big guy, sorry to lump you in with me. People just don't trust them and Sonic is one of the funniest guys. I got a note once that said, you know, Miles Stroth goes, just that you're a big fat idiot and you're all that smart and I thought, and I was like, thanks, and they walked away

and I was like, okay. That's like the most you'll get is like a begrudging like, hey, you're not as fucking dumb as I thought you were. You're still fat, you fat, smelly piece of shit. But do you think that's universal to bigger guys or because I also say that you guys are both kind of a type of big guy and that you're kind of like a kind of an outgoing, kind of, you know, you dress casual, kind of, some people might say, I think they'd be mistaken when they might say like you're kind of like a big bro, you know, and I feel like that's

like a different than like a, I don't know, I'm trying to, I don't know what type I'm thinking of. Like an out of breath like sick fat man. Well, like, I think that's different from like say a Jeff Garland who's like maybe a little bit more of a classy, large man. What the fuck? Jeff Garland is much more classy than us. Yeah, he breathes just as hard as we do.

All right, so maybe there's one thing. That would say definitely harder than us. Okay. All right. Like Jeff Garland, bad example. How about a pre-weight loss, John Hodgman used to be a little larger, right? Mm-hmm. Okay.

Right? Like that's like kind of like an egg head who happens to be of size. Well, here's the thing, like, okay, so I lost a lot of weight. I lost 50 pounds, right? Yeah. I'm gaining it back, but one, and here's, here's, I'll give you a great progression here. When I was the bro dresser, I lost weight.

I started going to J Crew, which I could never go to because it couldn't fit in the clothes. They're sizes. J Crew is a size historic. Fucking hate them. Tiny sizes. I started wearing J Crew going, oh, I look good. I cleaned up my act and then as I started gaining weight, all of a sudden the workout

shorts came back. Yeah. The hoodies came back. I got them without it kind of thing. Oh, yeah. And you wear them out until they stink and you're like, oh, I can't wear that. I got to put it in the dryer. It would shrink some.

But it's also comfy. It's 90 degrees out and you're still wearing a hoodie. I know that feeling. So I think it's more of a comfort. Yeah, I got you. That's why you get the bro feel because like you're wearing flip flops and shorts out and everyone's like, you're going to wear that out to the restaurant? Yeah.

No, I, that's the thing. Even when I lost weight when I was in college, so mine was a long time ago and then I've just gotten progressively fatter. It was one of those things where I refused to take, like be a guy who like took his, because I, because I rode crew and that's why I lost all my weight and they were a lot of them were dorks. Yeah. And I just did it to lose weight.

And there were other guys who were big guys who like immediately were like, I'm going to take my shirt off and walk around with my shirt off and I never, I made sure to never do that. Me too. Me too. Because I never wanted to be that guy. Sure. And they can be like that sort of thing of like, hey, he's dressing smart and he's really

gotten his shit together. You know, I would, you know, I pitch a lot out here and I was pitching shows and when I lost weight, I honestly, it might be in my head. I feel like I got more respect in the room. Interesting. I'm sure. I, here's my thing. When I lost weight, I saw me and I looked like a big bobblehead and I was like, well, I lost

weight. I was just kind of like a thinner, ugly guy. You lost your character. Yeah. I'd rather be a big guy and they'd be like, oh, he's a big guy. He's not bad looking. He's a, but he's a big guy. Yeah.

And when I lost weight and I was like, you fucking, you look gross and you're like, now you're thin. Like what the fuck is this? It was like an abusive father in the peanuts universe. It was, it was, I like to think of myself, a big guy's like us, like kind of like the ogre from, from wrench the nerves, like a, like we're, we're, we're fun, we're fun party dudes. We're not, we're not, I don't concern on my, you know, I've been around the smelly fat

guy. Oh, that sucks. And I hope that I'm not secretly one of those smelly fat guys, but I've never, I honestly had never thought of you as a smelly fat guy. Yeah. I've never, I take care of myself, but I got to lose some weight and Jeff and I have talked about this a lot. We got, we're talking about getting a little competition going to see if we can lose some

weight. It's tough. I think you guys should do that. And, and weight loss is, weight loss is very tough, not like, I was reading an article and by the time this podcast is out, it'll be probably a month old, but it's in the New York times. If I remember, I'll re-share it on the double social media. About the biggest loser.

Yeah. And it's, it's really, did you read this article? It's about the biggest loser. Yeah. It's, it's, it's worth a read. Because I have someone who, who like you, Jeff, I like, I've lost a, I lost a good amount of weight, but I have regained, you know, a decent amount. I'm like, I'm not like, I'm not as thin as I was at my peak.

And this article is basically about these biggest losers who are from the TV show who are the most successful at losing weight have lost hundreds of pounds and just, it's just about how the yo-yo is basically inevitable because you're just metabolism is just trying to get you back to what it considers homeostasis where your body was before. So you know, you might be a 495 pound guy, you go down to 170, your body's fighting back, all of a sudden you're 300 pounds, you're thinner than you were before, but you're still, you know, heavier than maybe you should be. It's really interesting.

I'm saying if- I'd rather be the fattest man on earth than listen to that shit again. Whenever you fake sleep, all I could think is like, he definitely has sleep apnea. That's so gentle how he's sleeping. That's so fake. It's probably more like, Mike, Mike, are you all right? My father who was a fit man and he stayed in shape his whole life and he, I could hear him snoring in my room with his door closed and my door closed.

So I am for sure a snorer and it gets worse when you gain weight. I've woken myself up snoring. Have you done that before? I'll have that and I'll have, I'll wake up, I'll have like lapneas and they'll also have night terrors, which I'll just like start screaming in my sleep. What? Really? Yeah, like I'll just like start freaking out and having like a panic attack in my sleep

and Natalie will usually wake me up. Natalie, you should. The offer's still up. That's getting better. And I'll also have sleep paralysis. You guys ever have sleep paralysis? Oh yeah. Yeah, that's a motherfucker.

I had sleep paralysis and I ran into Jack Allison's room who was my roommate at the time and I was like, Hey man, you're going to help me. There's a tarantula on the wall and Jack was like, Holy shit, it got really scared. I think you've got, you're having something different. That's not sleep paralysis. I think that's a different phenomenon. Oh no, no, wait, wait, hold on a second. He was stiff as a board on it.

No, no, no, no, it was sleep paralysis because I, right, isn't that, you know, everything is sleep walking or you had some sort of, isn't that what the nightmare is about? It is sleep paralysis, but you, you see, you woke up and then ran in. It feels like you're wide awake and I was staring at my, like looking at my wall and I saw a spider crawling down and I was like, why am I not? Why am I not? And this is the only time I ever had it and I was like, why am I not getting up in like hitting this spider?

I was so confused. And then finally, like I, what I think is really, I actually came out of my dream state and I was like, oh, shit. And I got up and ran to the Jack Allison's room and I was like, there's a tarantula on my wall. Jack got scared as well. And then we like pulled my bed away from the wall and like turned on the lights. It was, it was almost time for Jack to wake up because he works at Kimmel, he has to get

up at 6am. Yeah. And I was like, I don't know what to do, man, there's a fucking tarantula and I was going to stay there. Jack went to the outside and I turned my, my room light on and he looked through the window because you could see it in the shade where I thought it was. And then he came back in and he was like, you had a nightmare about a tarantula. And then it hit me.

I was like, oh my God, I had a fucking like waking nightmare. But that's what, I know a lot of people who have sleep paralysis that they see, they see old woman and they, like my friend, Dan Tufo, one of the Tufo brothers saw an old woman at the end of the bed and then there's like a shadow figure. It's really creepy. Yeah. I've had that happen before. The worst for me, because I'm probably twice a year, I'll get the sleep paralysis.

But the worst for me was, the worst thing is when I'm like sleeping, because sometimes I'll sleep on my stomach and if I'm like sleeping face down, I'm just like, my face is just in the pillow. Oh my God. And so like, I'm just like, I can't move and I feel like I can't breathe because I'm just breathing in like pillow and it feels like 40 minutes is passing. But apparently I've been to some sleep doctors, it's only like, it's actually only like 45 to 90 seconds of real time, but it just feels interminable.

It's crazy. That's miserable. Your body's trying to kill itself even while you sleep. Hey, I want to hear some good sleep paralysis stories. So if you've got any good ones, tweet us at us. Hashtag, stiff sleeper. Stiff sleeper. That's the one.

You're going to get a different story. I was going to say something like, give us your spookers or something. Give us your spookers. Jesus Christ. Jeff is wincing. Do not use that. What are you going to say, Jeff? I'm sorry I cut you off.

If you had a sleep paralysis story. I'll give you guys the fast version. I was at my dad's and he lived in the middle of the woods at the time. So like all he had windows everywhere and I was like paralyzed and I opened my eyes and the TV was in blue, like it was all blue and I saw my grandma just passed away and I saw like five of her faces circling above me and I was like, I couldn't move and then I closed my eyes like, please go away, please go away and it went away. I popped out of my off the like the bloat mattress, ran to my dad's door and I was about

to knock and I'm like, I can't knock. What am I going to say? I saw a ghost to my dad. So I went back to sleep. It happened two more times and every time I popped up, I'm like, I have to knock on his door. What am I going to ask? Sleep at the edge of his bed?

Can I sleep on the floor? And I never did it. How old were you? Oh man, I think this was, I was in high school. So it was. All right. Yeah. High school is a cut off.

You can maybe get away with sleeping at the edge of the bed on like in middle school. Yeah. Six or seventh grade maybe. Yeah. You can't do this. High school. I'm scared daddy. Can I sleep here?

My dad has passed away and I would not want his ghost to visit me. I miss my dad terribly, but don't come back as a ghost. I would punch him. I don't want to see a ghostly visage ever. Well, you would punch your ghost dad. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck he'd be thinking. He shouldn't fucking come and scare the shit out of me.

Now he'll probably do it, I'm sure. I don't want to see, that would be a terrifying, my grandparents, I don't want to see any of their ghost, maybe a ghost pet would be okay, I don't care about that, but I wouldn't want to see, I'm terrified of seeing ghosts, which you know. I had a pitch for it like a kind of, I think it could be a kids movie, there's also like an adult version, but it's like a ghost zoo where kids are trapped in like a haunted zoo and you get like animal ghosts, so they're spooky, but they're not like, I don't know, I think that's kind of a cool idea.

You see any ghost that's over, once you see one ghost, your life is like, there's ghosts exist. Oh yeah, that's a life-changing thing, and also I had no idea that Nick wants to be the next RL style. All right, let's talk about this ramen restaurant. So Hokkaido Ramen Sentouka, I'm sure I'm butchering that, I'm doing my best to get the Romanji syllables as much as possible. Is this a place you've been to before, Jeff?

Yeah, actually, so there's two places, when I used to fill homesick in college, I used to go to Costco, just because every Costco looks the same. Oh, sure, yeah. And then here in LA, I was going to Costco, and then I found that there's little Japanese like marketplaces, like little villages kind of thing, and I started going to this one long time ago, and I was eating ramen there, and then all of a sudden the ramen craze hit LA, and everyone's like, you gotta try this, when you gotta try this, when you gotta try this one, I was like, the best one is still over there, like the one I've been going to.

So yeah, I've been going there for years, it's kind of a fun little thing, like kind of a nerd where I'll go and look all the anime books and stuff like that, and all the little trinkets and toys and stuff, and then I'd go eat ramen and then hang out for an hour and go, I better get back before traffic starts. It's a track from where we live, the place, and I didn't realize that I had been there before because I'm a forgetful, fat guy idiot, and I'm in it now, who cares. When we were throwing away extra large shirts, and my mom was like, you're not gonna wear extra large again, I was like, my mom just visited, and she helped me clean out my house,

I was like, I'm not gonna be extra large again, what the fuck? Anyway, I had gone there before with Armin Weitzman, who loves the place, and like you, he's got great taste in food, he's a term foodies kind of shit, are you, do you like, is it specifically Japanese food that you have that you really go all out on, or is it every kind of food? I think mostly it's Asian food, like Korean food is awesome, like the big Korean town here in Los Angeles, and Korean barbecue is amazing, like all these noodle dishes and stuff, but yeah, I think it's mostly Asian stuff that I go crazy on.

I feel like people who have really good judgment of food, this is what I've experienced at least, love Korean food, I feel like that's like a common thing, like you and Armin both love it, but then there's like other people I know who like, they're big time foodies and they love Korean, they love, love Korean food, so I don't know, this will fit your theory, yeah, this will fit your theory, Mitch, because I know you don't respect my opinion, but I don't love Korean food, I think it's good, when I've had it, it's very good, but I tell you, any place I got a man the grill, I'm like, what's going on here, I gotta fucking work the barbecue, like that's your job.

I didn't like it, and it was basically because I didn't like kimchi, and then I grew to tolerate kimchi, and I now like Korean food way more, and it is just about those different meats and the flavor, and I enjoy it, but oh, so I think of you as a guy who does like good food, weirdly enough, I don't respect your opinion, but you like good restaurants, you know good spots, Natalie I feel like shepherds you a little bit with that, she's the real foodie, are there Korean restaurants you go to where you don't have to do that labor? For sure. Okay.

That's just, it's kind of just like a fun thing, I mean it's a staple for Korean people, like they go all the time, but I went to this food court that was amazing in Korean town where it was just like every, it's like an American food court, but it's all different Korean food, and it was just like, almost like I was in a sitcom because you could just see each person is a master at what they're doing, noodles, dumplings, rice dishes, all that stuff, and it's like, I almost was looking at them like they should fight each other with their food, like the noodle whipper or something like that, but no, it's like the flavors are amazing, and Korean barbecue, yeah that's everyone's go to, but if you

go to these porridge places, I go to this place that has a chicken soup, like a ginseng chicken soup, I don't even know the name, but it's so good for you, and when I'm sick I always go there, it's a little expensive, it's like $17, but it clears me up and it gives me energy, and I've never thought that way of food before, like I know ginseng is supposed to give you a little energy, but this soup actually helps me, like I know chicken soup is supposed to help you when you're sick, but the ginseng and all that, it just feels so good after I eat it. Ramen is, because ramen is a soup, but it is funny because I classify it as a thing,

I wouldn't eat it when I'm sick, and I, because I'm in front of the podcast, I don't remember always wants to get ramen I feel like, and I never want to get it, because it feels like one of those guilty pleasures, I talked about it before on here, but like how fried chicken is a thing you're not supposed to eat in my mind, I'm like I'm not supposed to eat fried chicken, ramen I'm not supposed to have like more than like once a month, or once every two months or something, I agree, I think it's a heavy dish, it really is, it's really heavy, but this place does it really really well, it doesn't feel as heavy as you think it would.

So is this something, when you would go to Japan, would you eat ramen in Japan? Oh yeah, all the time, like there's, you know, when I was in Japan, I would work with my uncle, he owned a video game shop, which was amazing, and he would close it around two or three, because it was almost like a cafe where people would come in, and they would play video games, they'd pay like five dollars to play for a couple of hours kind of thing, and they could play all the used Nintendo games, and there's little arcades and stuff, but after we'd close, we'd go either to Udon House or Ramen House, and just eat, and then go home, we'd take baths, and then like, my uncle and me would sit out on the, stand

out on the porch in our towels, and he'd be like, and I'm like, what is this moment, this is a weird moment, but you know, it was kind of a magical moment, but yeah, so ramen, you know, just like every state out here has their, oh, chili spaghetti, this place is good for barbecue, Japan, there's every section, I don't know what I'm talking about, has their own ramen, like Hokkaido ramen, Tokyo ramen, Akushi ramen, and it's all like, all these different flavors, and to me, it was just like, I loved it, because as a kid, going to Japan and eating raw fish was tough, I had to grow up to start loving raw fish, I couldn't love it. It took me a really long time to even enjoy sushi, and now it is one of those foods, and we've

talked about it on here, it's like, I want the best version of it, I want to go to Sugarfish, which is an LA restaurant that has like, delicious sushi, and I can't, I don't want grocery store sushi at all. Yeah, no way, it's salty, it really is. That's the thing, I'm really surprised, I get like, that there are certain foods that just like, fuck it, I'll get a hamburger for me on PM or whatever, there are certain foods where I kind of get it, but sushi is one where like, I just don't understand the right-aid sushi purchase. Can't believe it. It's so weird that people do that. The worst thing is when people go to Costco and buy that slab of salmon. That giant thing, and it lasts a while, yeah. And they cut it up as sushi, and it's like, my mom was telling

me a story, she went to a party and they're like, Aiko, will you cut the fish, we got it from Costco for sushi, and she was like, okay. And she was cutting slices, everyone's eating it, my mom was like, I should tell someone, but I don't want to ruin the party, but everyone is eating it, like, how can you eat that, especially right-aid when it's sitting out there all day, that's raw. Oh, that's nasty, I would never want to eat, unless it was specifically made for that meal, I don't want to get refrigerated sushi, and I feel like it was such a weird thing, because you're right, I feel like we grew up in the 80s or whatever, and we've talked, even on the last episode we were talking about this, of like, even how Mexican food seemed very foreign to me, and then

as time went on, sushi became this thing in Japanese food restaurants, and then it felt like that turnover from like, eating sushi to like, it being in like, 7-elevens or whatever was like, kids are eating it. So fast, it was so weird, it's really strange. I feel like if you were born in the 90s, as I imagine some of our listeners were, like, you probably didn't experience that sort of cultural transition, it was just sort of, that was just a staple, that was just a thing that was always around, but yeah, it is a shift we've seen in our lifetime, and I imagine if you're older than we are, then it seemed even more dramatic. Hey, if you enjoy Supermarket Sushi, tweet at us what? Hashtag what? Sick. Hashtag, sick fish. Sick fish.

But you know, speaking of, so Sushi is something that like, you know, I think the people pursue the, the best method is to find a good restaurant and pursue the higher end and just spend a little bit of extra money for it. Ramen, as we mentioned earlier, I think a lot of people's initial experience is with that lower, like bottom of the barrel, like the cheapest food you can buy to sustain yourself. So it might seem foreign to go and spend, you know, eight to $12 on a bowl of this when you're used to, you know, buying a packet for less than a buck, but when done well, it's like, it's such a, it's such a dish with so much depth of flavor and so much character and there's so many different varieties of it. Hokkaido, as you mentioned, a province in Japan, it's part of

the name of this restaurant, so I guess it's a regional flavor to this. Ramen, is that a thing you know about like, like the specific distinctions between the regions? I know some, I know like Kyushu Ramen is a pork broth. Okay. Like I think, oh, like I'm half Japanese, I don't remember the name, down in little Tokyo, there's one called, oh, I can't remember it right now, but it's a, it's specifically a bone broth and a pork bone broth. So basically they take the blood of a pig and they like, they boil it with the bones and that's how they come up with the broth and they do all their special little stuff. I think, I'm not sure, I think, I think like Tokyo Ramen was, is more of a soy sauce ramen. Gotcha. But my favorite of all the ramen, I think everyone has kind of a

similar ramen, it's just what their specialty, what they're good at. My favorite growing up was Kyushu Ramen because it was this thick pork broth. Yeah. But as I got older, I like the salt ramen. Yeah. That's what we have. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, we can go on to get into our orders. Yeah, let's get into our dishes. Yeah, Jeff, Jeff, also I'm jealous of your uncle, he seems like he was living a very fulfilling life at the time. It's just sounds like a nice life. I feel like every kid, it like had like lied and said they had an uncle who was like in the video game industry, you know, like, like, oh yeah, my uncle works at Nintendo. He says that the Kid Icarus 2 is coming out, you know, like event some, some bullshit story, but you actually had that. I did. I brought crazy. I

brought back Mario Brothers 3 before it was released out here. Oh my god. When the wizard was like the popular movie, kids were just going to see it to get a glimpse of Mario Brothers 3. But it was in Japanese. It was in Japanese. And I had a Garfield game, which is the worst game ever invented. It was just Garfield hopping on tables and stuff. And it's impossible. It's an impossible game. I like the sound of it. That's the one where that's the Garfield game where I think you like, like part of there's a level where you're just trying to get through the kitchen. Yes, that's the first level I've never passed. And then, and then you can be killed by a fly. It is an impossible game. It really is. Does Garfield have a fly nemesis? It's no, it's not, it's not adhering

to the source material at all. Um, yeah, my, uh, you know, I should have been, what, uh, a floating Monday. Okay. Yeah. You're right, Mitch. You know, you know what, uh, game I really enjoyed, a food-based game, uh, Cool Spot. Cool Spot was good. Yeah. Oh yeah, I just saw an article on that. I didn't read it. There's also a, there's a Japanese exclusive that's supposedly pretty good called Pepsi Man. Oh, love it. I like Pepsi Man. I have Pepsi Man toys. Oh, okay. Because, uh, it was just like this guy that screamed and ran into things. And I was like, I love this. Why isn't it out in America? Hit us up with your favorite, uh, food games. Uh, hashtag, what? Burger Time, etc. Oh my God. Because Burger Time is an option. Why am I giving these hashtags off?

I should just say something. You put me on the spot all the time. I was just trying to fucking make you do something. Um, so, uh, uh, yeah, so, so Hokkaido, uh, Hokkaido Ramen, Sento Uko, um, uh, what did you guys order? Well, we, we went together and it is, it's a drive and, and like Jeff was saying, it's located in this cool mall that used to be a supermarket and they, they've now, now it's kind of like a food court slash supermarket. And there's a few, I mean, this is, this is one of the ones in LA. It's in, it's in the Mitsua market, I think, in West LA. But there, there, there are a few in Southern California and across the U.S. and Canada. And Jeff did look at some weird magazines, uh, with a lot of, uh, there were a lot of, it wasn't

like a pornographic magazine, but there were a lot of shirtless, uh, chubby people. Uh, it was very strange. It was a strange, uh, strange, strange magazine. It was a magazine for artists, for figure drawings. Oh, okay. There was a bunch of fat guys climbing over walls. They were like, like real, yeah, real life models. Yeah. It looks like one of the, like, if someone offered me this job, I'd be like, oh, fucking, hey, this sucks. Uh, anyways. How much does it pay? $150 non-union? Fuck. All right. Don't use my name. Do I have to take my shirt off? Yeah. Fuck. No, thanks. There is dignity and fear. Uh, so we got, we got the same thing. Jeff kind of, uh, helped me navigate this. Uh, we both got this, the medium salt ramen, uh, and we got

the combo, correct? Yeah, we got the combo. And, like, the biggest thing is, like, when you, even when, when I was, like, like, new to ramen, like, salt ramen sounded awful to me. Yeah. It just sounds like, ugh. Because it's naturally salty. Yeah. Yeah. But I think it's more in the translation. Yes. Uh, that, that we get confused with. You know, it's like pretty uncommon, I feel like, in American food to hear salt, even though our food is so salty, it's, it's rare to see, like, salt as part of the core flavor component. Yeah. Um, but it's not like this broth, and I got the same broth, uh, the same broth for me, the shio ramen, correct? Yeah. So it'd be, like, salted pizza or something, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but it's, it's not,

like, overpoweringly salty. Like, you might be expecting the salt dominant flavor from the name, but, like, yeah, you're right. It's just, it's just a translation issue. It's just, it's the broth. And it's like, there's a miso broth that you could have got, spicy miso broth, and you could have got the pork broth, and, uh, and you could have got the soy sauce broth. Yeah. And so we, ours is a pork broth with salt, right? Or can you explain what we had exactly? I think it's just, like, uh, I don't think there's pork in it. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't think so? Maybe? I don't know. It's just, it's just a salty, I think it's just a salt-based. And, and what, so what are the components of this? Because you broke it down for me. There's a, there's like, seaweed, seaweed,

and it looks like, uh, like a part of a black glove that got thrown into your, your soup by accident. There's a fish cake. There's a spicy plum. And what's the, what is the fish cake exactly? It's like, it's just a starchy, like, like, I think there's fish flakes when they make it. They put, like, the fish scale flakes inside of it while they make it. But it's just, like, the starchy little, like, little cake kind of thing. It's like a little rubbery cake. And they just cut it and it, you, they have it in a lot of their soups out there, like. And then we had the, obviously, the noodles and, oh god, you guys are staring at me. I'm like, I have no idea. There's bamboo. There's bamboo. There's bamboo shoots. Bamboo shoots, the noodles, the broth,

the sour plum, which you don't like, right? I hate, it's, it's, and uh, Mike put it in his mouth. He goes, I'm just gonna try it for the podcast. And I was like, watch out, there's a seed in there. And he goes, yup. And the seed comes out of his mouth. And then, and then followed by an ounce of blood. That is like, and I'll give you the description of this because it's such a, it's such a weirdly written thing, but the red pickled plum on top hints the woman with red lipstick on, adding feminine touch to the ramen. And I think that's the one element of the dish that will maybe just seem foreign to, to Western taste. Cause a lot of the rest of it is just like, oh, this is just a, a hearty, brothy, tasty soup. It's a, it has a lot in common with maybe like a

matzah ball soup, you know, just like a very rich, um, rich starchy soup. That's a funny way to describe it. Yeah. But, but like that, that, that plum is so weird. It's such a, it's such a distinctly sour sort of flavor. It's a different taste. Yeah. I liked it. I did, I did like it. Yeah. It's, it's definitely different. It's like nothing I, you really have, I've ever tried. Yeah. I mean, it's, when I was a kid, that was like, they would try to give me that all the time, like, oh, you got to try this. And no one would understand why I didn't like it. It was just because there's no other taste in America that's similar to that. Sure. It's really strange. I like all the components of, I don't usually love seaweed, but the seaweed works really great in

the, in the ramen. And then of course there's the three slices of fatty pork. Oh, yes. That are amazing. Uh, and this place, when I went before, I, I don't think I really, really like, you know, had an appreciation for ramen like I do now, but it's, it's fantastic. It's, it's amazingly good. It's a silky broth. Yeah. That's what, like some of the, the pork broths, the other broths are so thick because they are, there's blood and some of those sounds awful, but I mean, there is, but this one just has this like kind of a silk to it and the aftertaste doesn't stand your mouth as long as the other broths do. Sure. Yeah. It's, I mean, like, I will say, and, and I think this is maybe a thing to keep in mind, uh, if you're going to one of these places, if there's a location

nearby and you want to try this out, uh, it's maybe kind of an intimidating ordering experience for a newcomer because the menu is very opaque. Um, it's, it's a lot of, uh, it's a lot of Japanese and, and some, you know, uh, some English that's maybe not the perfectly translated and, um, some, a lot of pictures that maybe it's not really clear what you would be ordering and plastic bowls of fake ramen. Yeah. That's a weird thing because I, and I feel like that's a weird thing that's, that's maybe unique to, uh, I don't know if it's, if it's Japanese or Asian restaurants in general, but having like demonstration food outside that's like plastic versions of it, that to me is, I, I think it's distinctly unappetizing to see like this plastic display version. It is really weird.

It reminds me of Problem Child 2 when they were eating the pizza. Did you remember? I think we've maybe even talked about on this podcast, I'm sure. Oh. Problem Child 2 comes up way too much on this podcast, but they, they're eating pizza at this pizza place and Gilbert Godfrey I think runs it at this point and he's like, like he's like, like he's like juniors back or whatever and he's mad, juniors there. And then a pizza fight, a food fight breaks out and the pizza was just so like plastic and fake looking. And I remember as a kid being like, that looks fucking nasty. And, and that's how I feel about the ramen. Like you look at it and you're like, that's like, I don't want to eat that. Like it looks like it like gelled over. Like you can't tell if it was

just a ramen that sat there forever and turned plastic or something. If you look it up, there are like documentaries on these people that make, it's like an art. Oh really? Really? How they make these fake foods and there's stuff like where they put the paint on top of water and then they dip the like the model in and it paints it and it, that's what gives it a natural look. So the ones we were looking at there at that ramen place have been there for years. Yeah. When they fade and they start to shrink a little bit and they look awful. But yes, sometimes those, some of that food is the cheap version of the, of the, I guess, food art and it looks like just stupid. It looks like a little kid's toy kind of thing. Yeah. I was in a McDonald's web ad a few years ago. I've had

very, very little success as an actor for good reason. But the ad experience was weird because I had to hold a Big Mac and it was like a picture Big Mac and McDonald's has their whole like, they have their whole food art crew there. Like they have like a trailer of just guys who are just like putting this precise Big Mac together and they've got like, you know, like, what's the word I'm looking for? The air spray. They're like airbrushing the burger. They're like, they're like, yeah, and then they're like moving things very, very precisely like surgeons and like putting like literal paint on it to like shine it up. And then they're probably so fucking nervous. But anyway, so you're gonna fucking anaconda that thing. It's really weird because it's weird

to hold this thing that that is like ostensibly food, but is inedible. It's like just like this picture quality thing that looks really great and looks especially good on camera. But you, you know, you can't eat it, but you still kind of have the instinct of like, oh, I kind of want to take a bite of this, you know. And it's, and it's like, but the thing I remember from it was that you had to show like, I think it's a McDonald's thing that you have to have three points of cheese visible. Yeah. So like, I was holding the burger and like someone like a food guy would come over and like clock the burger in my hand to make sure that three points of cheese or is that like an artist thing? Like how there's like a three points to the art to the M for the McDonald's. I think

I think it represents the Trinity. So can I just ask you this? Yeah. How many picture big backs did you eat? I did not eat a picture big back. Sorry, boss. Mr. Riger, please. All right. So, so yeah, they've got this. So the ordering experience is definitely a little foreign. You go inside the Mitsua market and I'm not sure of all the locations. I think they might have some standalone locations. This one is kind of like a food court sort of a presentation where you get these individual food court stalls. But I will say that the our experience, I went with Natalie and the guy was working the counter. Sometimes at Asian restaurants, I feel like the the reputation is that you've kind of got like a stern, a weight staff who isn't particularly helpful. But this

guy was super duper helpful, was super friendly, openly admitted it was his first day. Like he was like very, very nervous, which was weird. But yeah, he was very helpful in making sure that we got what we ordered. And yeah, I actually got the same thing as you guys. I got that that that shio ramen, the mild salt flavor. Yeah, it's a hand holding club. That's great. Yeah, we're the hand holding club for for our dishes. And then you guys mentioned you got the combo. The combo I got mine was with a negameshi, aka the negi rice bowl. This is sento because well known dish hot white rice topped with katsuobushi, nori and diced green onions mixed well before eating. And katsuobushi I looked up I think is a dried tuna. Which sides did you guys get with your

with your exact the same one? I got the pork rice chashu bowl, chashu bowl. Yeah, which was which was delicious. Yeah, very tasty. I also got myself a diet coke. But yeah, it's it's it's great to eat some of that pork rice. And then, you know, get a get a get a spoon you take you get the spoon full of it. And then you dip it into the ramen, let some of that broth get in there. Oh, yeah, it's fucking delicious. Yeah, that you know what? This is a weird this is my own hang up is like, I'm afraid of eating things like that wrong. Like, I'm like, oh, that's my instinct to kind of do that. But I'm worried I'm like, fucking it up somehow, you know. Yeah. I feel like that way that like, if I'm ever like a Vietnamese restaurant or something too,

I'm just like, ah, fuck, I don't know what to do with all these individual components. I'm just going to do my best to not make a fool of myself, even though no one cares. No one's paying attention. You just eat your food how you want. But I asked for a fork. I don't like I asked for a fork. I asked for a fork. I don't like eating ramen with. I'm not very good with with chopsticks. And so, especially with like a soup, I just want to shove the noodles in my face. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. He also said, let's get some gyoza, which is pot stickers, like to go with it. And then he ditched that. Well, because there was not, you know, I didn't want to mix up the restaurants because there was there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was, we could have gotten gyoza

one one restaurant over, but we decided not to do it. And then I went back to the table and there were six glasses of water. And I was like, hmm, weird. This is and I thought it was all for Salonica. I Salonica, I didn't realize that he had gotten me three glasses of water. They're tiny little little cups. Oh, it was it was very thoughtful. It was it was about 20 minutes into us eating. He's like, wait, are these for me? Yes. I honestly didn't know. Honestly, didn't I swear to God, you'll make fun of me for this. I honestly didn't know if it was like a Japanese custom to keep six cups. And I was like, is this some sort of Japanese custom? Because we had just discussed about how you have Japanese and how you grew up a lot of this food.

And I was like, maybe this is some weird Japanese shit. I don't know that the slaughterer is doing. And then I realized like, oh, he just got me some water. He's being very thoughtful. And I fucking slugged him down. And then also we got we got ourselves a little treat afterwards. We got ourselves a couple of mochis or mochi mochi. You kept calling it mochi. Those were delicious, but they were frozen and they they didn't sell them at the same restaurant. And Salonica and I put them on the windshield of my car to have them melt quicker so we could eat them. And like, it was almost there because they're like cream filled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was almost there. And I was like, ah, just a little bit more. And Mike's like,

fuck it, I'm just gonna eat it. And there was a chocolate powder that was all over your mouth. But I felt kind of bad to go, Mike, you got to wipe your mouth. No, when you left the car, I was like, I gotta go home and take a fucking shower. I felt so gross. And also at the same time, I had forgotten about a call I had. Oh, yeah. And so I made Jeff sit in the car and I had chocolate powder all over my face while I was on a work call. So it was. I heard I heard all you guys in work mode. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was terrible for him. And I apologize to Jeff for you. Nick say, yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, that sounds good. That sounds really good.

The Navy Race Bowl, I thought is tasty. It's a lot of green onion. It's so much green onion. But as you know, that going into it though. Yeah, you know, going in that's part of it. I like green onion. But even for me, a green onion fan, it's a lot. It's like very, very dense. So I would just say, like, you know, just know that if that's a dish you're going to order that it's going to be pretty intense. Natalie Rock, she didn't like the green onion. She thought it was like a little, she thought it tasted like it might have been frozen, which I don't know. I suspected it was it was fresh, but maybe just so charred that it kind of like some of the flavor it was taken out

of it. Interesting. But it was it's definitely a very distinct and interesting dish. I think it's good. I think the combo there works well, because you kind of get this little side thing that pairs is just like a nice little tangent from this this this dense soup that you've got. Yeah. Um, you know what I did? I put some of those green onions in my soup. Oh, that's a good plan. Scooped it over. But there's also an egg. We forgot to talk about the egg. Oh, yeah, you get like a little brown egg. Shit, the egg is great. And it's just in soy sauce or it's like a sweet soy sauce that it's in. So it had a little bit of a sweetness to it. And it's kind of just like marinated in that sauce. You know, it's any and I love putting that in the in the ramen and

letting it kind of cook up. And then it's like eating like a like a fresh like a fresh hard boiled not not a hard a soft boiled egg or something. It's it's really delicious. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I mean, I you know, I'm okay with I would say like the egg is it's good. But I feel like it's that's not a part for me that's like like, oh, but you got to get that egg. It's kind of like, all right, that's fine. I completely disagree with you. I fucking love that. I love it's a nice little side, you know, like a little side route that you go on on this journey of eating this ramen and you can eat that fucking egg. And I love I love it. Yeah, I'm all in. I'm all in for the egg. I like the egg. Fuck you, Weigar. Weigar hates eggs. I actually like eggs.

Eggs are one of my favorite food. I like eggs. This egg in particular, I'm like, this is fine. But I don't feel like this is like an essential part of this dish. I will tell you one side if they put it in the soup and be like half of it in the soup. That's a different experience. Yeah, like on the side is not usually something that I'm used to. I'm used to having it in the in the soup. Well, you know, I think and they think this is a this is maybe user error, but I think I should have taken that and dropped that in the soup right away because I think of that what had been sitting in there soaking up that broth for a little bit. Yeah, you ate fucking cold egg, you dumbass. Cold, sweet egg. Let's get to our, excuse me, let's get to our final thoughts

on Hokkaido, ramen, santo, so there's how this will work, Jeff. I will each go around, give sort of your closing argument, your overall verdict on the restaurant, and then declare your, declare your affection on the order of one to five forks. So we'll start with you. Okay, so obviously this is one of my my favorite places in Los Angeles to eat. So, you know, I'm, I'm giving you one of the places I love to go. So I, I, I do, I love this, the soup, the broth is, is thick, but it's not too thick for my liking. The soup is the taste is just like a silkiness with the noodles are perfectly cooked. I know it's kind of a cafeteria style. But for me, I love, I just love the atmosphere of being there. Is this your favorite ramen? This is my favorite ramen in Los Angeles. Yeah,

and this is this beats out like the big ramen restaurants that are popping up everywhere. And, you know, some of those places are going all crazy. Like if you, if you want to see what really goes into ramen, watch ramen girl with Brittany Murphy, who is deceased, but ramen girl, ramen girl. It's an awful movie. It's like her in Japan learning to be a master ramen maker. Is it a wait, is it an American production or is it a Japanese movie? It's in a, it's kind of a crossover, but it's American. It was supposed to come out here in America. Is it's in English mostly? It's in English. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It's really weird. Ramen girl. It's ramen girl. She goes to Japan, follows a guy out there. They break up. She like

cries, walks into this ramen place and goes, teach me how to make ramen. And he's like, get out. No, no. I don't like you. Get out. And she goes, please, I'll come back every day. And then he's like, oh, who's this girl in Japanese? And then all of a sudden she comes back. And then he's like, okay, you proved yourself. Let's make this broth. I just looked it up like, like you're saying that. And I assume this like, oh, this movie was to come out in like 1997. 2008. Yes. It's crazy. That's one of her last films. Yeah. Probably. An American woman is stranded in Tokyo after breaking up with her boyfriend, searching for direction in life. She trains to be a ramen chef under a tyrannical Japanese master. Wow. It's kind of,

it's kind of crazy. It's like, like, oh, that's your last one. And you can tell she's a little bit like, she's on the way out. Oh my God. Five forks. Stick a fork in her. Stick five right in her. Five forks for Josh Slonaker. Real quick, under the trivia section for the ramen girl. In several sections, people are seen taking their shoes off before entering a house. This is a Japanese custom where the inside of the house is considered clean and the outside unclean. The shoes are considered part of the outside and are unclean. It is very disrespectful to wear shoes inside someone else's home. Do you think anyone has learned that fact from the ramen girl's trivia page on IMDb? Like they was like, what the what the fuck's going on with the shoes in this movie?

It sounds like the person who wrote that fact did learn it. There was some guy who was like, what the fuck's going on with the shoes in this movie? Should I get to my go for it, Mitch? All right. Let me just say, isn't just a song by the Crash Test Dummies anymore. One taste of that salty ramen and you're going to fall in love with it. It's delicious. I like ramen. It's very decadent. I shouldn't eat that much. I'm surprised you guys didn't laugh at my mm-mm thing. I was trying not to. I think silence is better than laughing at that one. Anyways, it's not just a song by the Crash Test Dummies anymore. There you got it. You'll be singing that tune if you eat at Santuca? Santaku?

Okay, good horse. I love ramen. I had a better appreciation for this place this time when I went. I would love to go back there. It's a hike. If you live in Boston or California or if you're in Japan, oh yeah, also hashtag what's a good hashtag for Japanese listeners? Land of the Rising Doe? Oh, I love that. That's good. That's a good one. Land of the Rising Doe. Hashtag Land of the Rising Doe. If you're in Japan and tell us about your ramen experiences. I love it. It is one of my favorite ramen places now. I don't think I could give it anything but five forks. It's great. I'll tell you what, too. And at the end, Mike goes, you know what? I'm stuffed. He did. He looked me right in the eye. It is a very filling meal. That salty,

like I said, it's a meal that I don't want to... It's one of those things that I'm like, I don't want to eat this that often. I'm a big guy. This is making me chubbier. I can tell. It's one of those foods that you can just tell. It's a guilty pleasure, but it is so good. With this place, I was finishing the broth off. I almost never, ever, ever do it. I give credit to the size because we got the medium and I was like, I saw the large come out. I was like, oh, it'd be great to have that large. But the medium was super filling, especially with that combination bowl. It's just top notch. If you get a chance to try it, and I know we know that this is a rare one, but we wanted to talk about ramen in general anyways. But this is about as good as you can

probably do in the state. So if you're in Boston or Los Angeles, and where's the other one in the US? Is there a third? There's some in Canada. Some in Canada? Yeah. They're scared to cross. Go to the website. The website's mostly Japanese, but there's an English side of it where you can see. I think if we click on foreign locations, it should show them in North America. Yeah. Easy five forks for me. Yeah. I mean, it's not any tougher to get to than a caros. I feel like it's one of the, it's maybe a more esoteric one, but I think there are a lot of people who can try this place out or may have already tried it. I think this place is very good. And let me say for the record that yummy, yummy, yummy, I've got love in my tummy is not just a song by the Ohio Express anymore.

Jesus. I didn't have a song in mind. That's better. Here's the thing. It's very, very good. I'm going to say my personal preference is that I think fa is a superior noodle soup to ramen. I'd rather have the rice noodles. I'd rather have that beefy broth or that chicken broth over the starchy wheat-based ramen broth. All right. I'm going to call bullshit on this. This is an excellent, this is an excellent version of ramen. I agree with what you're saying. You never need the large at one of these places. You can always go medium or small. I went small and I was full. It was, it's a, like, your eyes can be bigger than your stomach here. You don't need the large. This is great. It's delicious. It's a little intimidating but an order experience. But if

you can get over that hump and be prepared for some flavors that you might not be familiar with, if you're not someone who regularly consumes this version of ramen, I think you'll have a great time. But because ramen has a ceiling for the burger boy, I am giving this place a very respectable four forks, which Hokkaido Ramen sent to Uka. That means you're in the Golden Plate Club. Congratulations. You are so full of shit. It should be in the Platinum Plate Club. You are also in the Ballpark Buds Club because we're all the same ballpark with our scores. So congratulations. The Ballpark Buds Club fucking sucks. And also, I wanted to say this, you're bringing personal preference into this. We rate these restaurants on what they're trying

to do. This makes one of the best versions of ramen that there is. I think that this is bullshit. I think that this should be a 5-4 review and I think that you're full of shit. Look, we know these reviews aren't etched in stone. We know that we can go back and review them and update them. I will definitely patronize this place again. And if I have a change of heart, if I feel like this deserves a couple more tines, maybe a full fork, then I will update my scores such. God, I can't wait. I'm on the edge of my fucking seat. If I'm being honest, if I'm being honest, just in the same way that I think Del Taco is superior to Taco Bell and you feel vice versa, it's the same sort of thing. I would rather have other 5-fork restaurants over this 4-fork

restaurant. It's still very good. That's a great score. 4-forks, you should be proud. If you're in the Golden Plate Club, you've done something with your life. You've accomplished something as a chain if you're in the Golden Plate Club. Can't we just beat them up now? I think we can. By the way, I'm not an expert on ramen. I try to do my best bullshitting. Was that good enough? You did great. The podcast is not overweight. You know your stuff a lot better than a lot of people. You really knew your stuff. That was Hokkaido ramen santa uka. It's time for a new segment. We're going to give you a Pizza Our Minds. It's The Slice Is Right. Oh my fucking god. Then we got that goddamn barbaka, an old freak. The price is right, an old freak.

What the fuck? That was the Price Is Right Game Show theme followed by a clip from a track from a Paul Mooney stand-up record titled The Price Is Right. They were the two things that came up when I searched prices right on Spotify. This is a segment that I reverse engineered based off of we have a very popular segment called Pie In The Sky. A listener named Blake Florian suggested an alternate title on Twitter, which was The Slice Is Right. I felt that The Slice Is Right was maybe more appropriate for a pizza segment, and that's what this is. We're going to build our dream pizza component by component, and here's how it'll work. We'll go around. We will start with nothing. Wait, so you don't have a slice of pizza for Jeff or I? No, there's no pizza. We're going to

get this fucking segment out of here. We're going to make a theoretical. We're going to make our dream pizza, and we're going to build it component by component. Here are the rules. You can add an element or delete an existing element. Once an element has been deleted, it can never come back. If someone adds pepperoni and you say, I'm deleting pepperoni, pepperoni's gone. And when I'm satisfied, I shall declare The Slice Is Right. So, Jeff, you're our guest. You can go first. What is one element you would go to this pizza? And remember, we have nothing. We don't have dough. We don't have sauce. We don't have toppings. Any element you want to start us off with. I will go with a cornmeal crust. Cornmeal crust. Like a Chicago style. Chicago style cornmeal

crust. All right. If that's the way we're going. Go ahead, bitch. I'm not going to delete that, then. If that's the way we're going. Now, before, this doesn't necessarily have to go before or after. Like, if I say cheese, it doesn't have to go on before the sauce. No, we don't have to build it in order. Okay. I will add fresh mozzarella. Mozzarella. I'm going to add sliced meatballs. Go ahead, Jeff. I'm going to add mushrooms. Boy, I might have to delete mushrooms. That was creepy and sexy. Well, we don't have sauce yet, but I'm just going to say, I'm going to delete mushrooms. I'm sorry, Jeff. That's fine. I am going to add a marinara sauce, like a tomato sauce.

Not like a meat marinara sauce. Like a red sauce. Okay. Not like an overly sweet sauce. Like a San Marino. Are we talking or what? Yeah, like a Santa. I don't know. The kind that's not too saucy, not too heavy, not too overpoweringly sweet. All right. Go ahead, Jeff. I'm going to add another layer of mozzarella cheese. More mozzarella. Okay. I love that. All right. Go ahead, Mitch. I am going to add onion. What kind of onion? Chopped white onion. Okay. I am going to delete just Mitch's layer of cheese. Put it in. You're deleting my layer of cheese.

That's because of the order? You didn't like the order he put it in? No, no, no. That's fucking bullshit. That's fucking bullshit. I'm going to add a patty of sausage over the top of it. Whoa, like over the whole thing. The whole thing. That's intense. I've had that one. Oh wait, so it's sausage. Huh. Like a giant patty that goes over the whole pizza. So we got meatballs, we got mushrooms, we got onions, we got fresh mozzarella, and then we got a big old sausage on top of this, cornmeal crust deep dish with red sauce. I don't know. Also San Marzano tomato sauce, I think I got, I said San Marino.

That sounds right. That's what I want, San Marzano. Um, I don't know about this sausage patty, this is like, but this is like, but I like Slonaker way more than you. So this is like, it's not like a breakfast sausage patty, just to make it clear, this is like, let me just say this, Chris Farley used to get the Chicago style pizza meat lovers with a patty of sausage on top of it, the rumor. I love Farley. Yeah, I've never had it, but I've seen it, it looks fucking good. It looks like that meat sauce just, that meat juice just soaks in there. I will say with the other stuff, it might be, it might, it might push it too much there. Now, well, you'll see what happens right

now. I'm going to add pepperoni into this pizza. Oh, gross. Go and meet crazy. Pepperoni and meatball, and then that's a little, a sausage on top. It's a meat lovers, but it's not extreme. There's no bacon in there yet. Okay. Think about it. Oh yeah. All right. All right, that's good. The pepperoni, that's fair. I'm going to add, fuck, what direction should I go here? You're gonna have, what? You know what? You're gonna fuck the pizza. No, I'm not gonna fuck, yeah, I am gonna fuck the pizza. The slice is right. All right, we did it guys. No, I would love, what? Someone go out and order that pizza, tweet at us, hashtag slices, right? I want to see someone fucking make that monstrosity. Tell us

if it's good. If it's terrible, we got a money back guarantee. Weigur, isn't that right? This is your game. You need receipts, right? Don't throw away the receipt. That was the slices, right? Just like a restaurant, we value your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today's email comes to us from Sean Urie. Sean writes, subject line in defense of the ziosk. Dear Nick and Mitch, I know you guys have given the ziosk some criticism. However, for me, the ziosk eliminates my biggest pet peeve about restaurants, waiting an hour to pay the bill and leave. Usually what happens is the waiter waitress will check if everything came out fine and then disappear for a while. When they notice I am done eating, they will come by and ask if I want dessert. I'll probably say no, just the

check, please. They will bring the check and by the time I pull out my wallet to put out my card, in the book, they vanish. Half an hour later, they show up and it takes my card, show up and take my card, then take however long it takes to run it. Long story short, it's great that I can swipe my card at a little iPad on my table and leave. Sean, are you familiar with the ziosk, Sonecker? I've seen it. I've probably used it once or twice. Yeah, so if you're listening out there, you're not familiar with the ziosk. It's basically like an iPad shaped, it's a tablet that on a stand that's on the table of some chain restaurants, notably Chili's, TGI Fridays, Olive Garden has them and it's a place where the waiter will direct you

towards it, your server will direct you towards it, you can use it to pay, you can ostensibly use it to order drinks and desserts, although I've never seen that done in practice and it's weird and alienating and it's a little polarizing, but this is someone who actually likes it. I don't know, what do you guys think? Does Sean make a convincing case in favor of the ziosk? I retract my thing. I've seen it, but I've never used it. Gotcha. Yeah, I've had the one where they bring it to your table, but not stationed there. I've seen it and we've talked about it quite a bit on this podcast. Wendy's has just talked about

how they're going to try to get some ziosk, we're not ziosk machines, but what do you even call it? They're talking about full, I don't know if they'd be ziosks, but they basically be things that you can- Kiosks, I guess. Kiosks, yeah. Full size things. I actually said, what do you ever call it? Me trying to prove I'm not a dumb guy at the end of the podcast, I said, what do you ever call it? What do you ever call it? So Wendy's making that move, it's tough because then I was about to say, I like Wendy's and I like,

now I like ziosks, but ziosks are strange because it does put some people out of jobs, but I know what he's talking about as far as swiping the card and waiting around forever. Sometimes you just want to go, sometimes you're in a rush and that is helpful. I mean, I kind of like a version where you have to have, there's still this wait staff, but you do have a ziosk and if you want to check out right away, you can do it. I feel like ziosks are the wave of the future. I do feel like that's the thing that's going to change. It's unfortunate that people are going to lose jobs from machines and it's going to happen to all of us. In fact, I think Weiger is a machine. So I am already working with a robot right now and it's not too

bad, but it's rough because people are going to lose jobs over it and it's all based on us being more comfortable or things being just a little bit more convenient. I mean, here's the thing to the guy who wrote in, thank you for the question, but just fucking wave your arm or get the server and tell them to fucking swipe your card too. I mean, you can easily do that. I think you run the risk of maybe seeming impatient or something like that, but I also get it. I get it for the checkout thing. I just don't feel like these machines should completely take over. I like greeting someone. I know Weiger, you don't like to talk to people if you don't have to. But I do like that interaction at a restaurant. I kind of like the dynamic with the server. I

feel like that's part of the experience. I'm more okay with it like at a Wendy's, honestly, even though it does suck and it's the thing just with people losing their jobs, which sucks. But at a Wendy's, I'm like, I know what I want. I want to punch it in. I want to make sure I got it correct and I just want to get my food and get the hell out of there. I think you're right. It's coming. There's no stopping it. The internet generation that we're experiencing right now is you don't want to talk to anyone. I just did VR for the first time, that whole thing. Before, I was like, stupid, hate it. When I got out of it, I was like, that was really cool, but I can see people are going to get lost in that. I had the same exact experience. I just

tried VR just recently and I was like, oh my God, this is the future and this is kind of scary future. We've finally reached Lawnmower Man 3 level of the world where it's like... It's coming. It's coming and it's going to be a thing. When I was speaking of being scared and I think I was almost high school age, I was at least eighth grade. When Doom 64 came out, I played it a 64-bit version of Doom and got so scared that I had to sleep at the end of my mom's bed. I had like a night terror playing from Doom 64, which is pathetic. Yeah, Mitch has told me this before and if you look up, if you're out there, look at screenshots

for Doom 64. There's like models that are made with like six polygons. They look like shit. They're not scary at all. I will say this, there were babies crying. The soundtrack where babies crying and lambs dying. That's a little intense. They do... It was a creepy game. The atmosphere of it was creepy and it deals with hell and why granose I'm afraid of the devil. Beelzebub is a terrifying figure. Like you are scared of a lot of things. There should be a count of how many things you said you're scared of in this podcast. Beelzebub or Beelzebub or the Dark Lord. He's an old-time

spooky guy. He's an old-time spooker. Hashtag old-time spooker. You can't use that word. You keep using it. Yes, it sounds like a racial slurs. It's trying to be a fucking racial term. God damn it. Spooker... Mike was so happy I was coming on the show because I was going to make fun of you. He's like, you're going to make fun of me. I can't wait. You're going to make fun of him. And I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to make fun of you. You're such a nice guy. Like the only thing I can say is he's a robot. I'm like, yeah, he's a robot, all right. I'm a nice guy, god damn. You're a nice guy, but you're the fat guy, so it's fun to make fun of you. You know my pain. How dare you do this. It's all the things someone has told me in my past that

I get to say to you. What a fucking sellout. Your guys are all sellouts. I was just saying, playing a version of Doom or whatever, not Doom 64 specifically, but playing a scary game in VR, I think it will kill some people. It's going to. There will be fatalities. I had one VR, a little bit of VR experience, but it was a couple years ago, so the technology was a little cruder. It was the Oculus Rift. I think anyone out the Vive is supposedly better. But yeah, I went on a roller coaster and I got a little motion sick, it's really crazy that this thing that people predicted for so long and was like, VR, yeah, right. And now it's here and it's already pretty intense. And it's going to go,

things are going to be crazy. At some point in our lives, all three of us are going to be caught pounding off while we're in some VR world. I'll see a video game box on the floor for Cuckmaster 3000. Would you watch the instant replay of what he's going through? But it is like, it's a weird, crazy future. I don't like what automation is portends for our workforce, but it's already happening, manufacturing, it's certain to happen in the service industry at some point. Hopefully more jobs will be created and more people will get a living wage and those people who work in food industry will continue to, will hopefully get the pay that they deserve. But yeah, that's just the cruel march of capitalism.

It's never going to happen. We're going to live above the clouds and the people that don't have the jobs are going to live below the clouds. Not me. I mean, I will definitely be below the cloud person. It's going to be, it'll be an Elysium for sure. But you know, what I would say about the zeusk about your micro targeted questions, John. Elysium was right. Yeah. All the sci-fi movies. Elysium is the one that turns out to be right. Elysium nailed it. Logan's run was a bunch of shit, but Elysium was dead on. All right. So I hope, I hope, uh, what's the, what's the, what's the robot one that's, that's like, that's by the same guy from Elysium? Oh, uh, uh, Chappy. I hope Chappy is right. I hope Chappy's real. Chappy seems fine. I thought you were going to make some,

like, cuckee joke. You know what? This is the first time I've seen Nick as a robot because he's, he keeps starting on his thing and then like, we deflate him by cutting him off, but he starts up exactly the same way each time. Oh yeah. You can see him like rebooting. I don't have any range. Um, but yeah, Sean, I would say like, as far as your micro targeted question, I see the utility of the zeusk in this particular case. Overall, I'm, I'm not in favor of it because I like that interaction with the server and I think it clutters the tablescape, but I would say as far as your problem is concerned, I think the issue, the bottleneck you're, you're encountering is because you don't have your wallet ready when they bring the bill.

And if you need to get out there in a hurry, when you ask for your bill at that point, when you ask the question, take your wallet out then, get your card ready. And then when they put the bill on the table, plop their card right there or hand it directly to your server, you'll save yourself some time if you need to get out of there. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at doboyspodcasts at gmail.com. Check out our Facebook page, Do Boyz, Sean. Follow us on Twitter at doboyspod. If you have a free second, wait, rate and review us on iTunes. Jeff Solaniker, thank you so much for coming here. Do you have anything you would like to plug?

I do. I do a podcast that no one listens to. It's about, it's called the border realm, and it's about like supernatural stuff. It's not so much, it's not a funny thing, but it's a new podcast. It's a real fun time. It's like we just talked about, like the last one we talked about was the Japanese suicide forest, if that has a new- Oh yeah, I've heard of that. That's crazy. Real stuff going on there. And yeah, so we just talked about like, I'm the skeptic half the time, but sometimes I believe, so I don't know. That's awesome. Yeah. Check it out. You got a Twitter handle, right? I don't even know it. I don't have friends on it.

What was the name of the podcast again? It's called the border realm. Check out the border realm. Solaniker is one of the funniest dudes, so you'll want to give that a listen. And they'll do it for this episode of Do Boyz. Until next time, for the Spoonman, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigher. Happy eating. See ya.