Doughboys - Howlin' Rays with Kumail Nanjiani

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

Kumail Nanjiani joins the 'boys to talk about spicy foods and getting ripped before a review of Howlin' Rays. Plus, the return of A Single Item Must be Banished.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at doughboys.kinshipgoods.comSources for this week's intro: wgacontract2023.orgsagaftra.orgWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a head gum podcast. Want to watch this episode? Check it out on our YouTube channel by going to youtube.com slash doeboys media. Hey buddy, it's Wigger. This is normally where I do the scripted intro to start the podcast, but because of the ongoing WGA strike and the SAG after a strike, no intro this week, as has been the case in past weeks. Thank you for the thumbs up.

Or was that a hang loose match? What was that? Wow, Mitch is hanging loose, very cool. Hey man, because the AMPTP won't negotiate, I have to hang loose. So what other choice? So what other choice? You got no other choice, Mitch.

I hang loose, that's me to the day I die, dude. And I'm gonna thumbs up to the WGA and SAG. Wow, how about that? And hang loose to the AMPTP? Yeah. Okay, got it, okay. They need to get, they need to loosen up. They need to loosen up.

That's what it is. I'm gonna loosen those pockets. Loosen the purse strings. Thank you. Anyway, the strike keeps going. You all know the issues by this point. I just wanted to again redirect people to entertainmentcommunity.org.

If you want to a place where people are wondering how they can help out, this is a place where you can donate that provides emergency financial assistance for people in the industry displaced by the work stoppage. You can go to birdfuck.com. That info is also at birdfuck.com. So check it out, entertainmentcommunity.org, or you just go to birdfuck.com and then info is also at birdfuck.com. So check it out, air intainmentcommunity.org,

or you just go to birdfuck.com and then there's a link right there at the bottom. And also, if you do have videos of birdsfucking, I don't know how much we've implemented that into the website. Emma, I'm looking at you nervously. Shining your head and know, it looks like maybe not at all. I don't think so. I'm throwing a f of birdsfucking in that.

That's pretty good. And there's a few links. And then there's also like a little under construction GIF, which is cute. It's too late. We can maybe, I think that's what part had to do, is if you have a video of bird's fucking, you should load it to YouTube,

and then we can maybe have a section where we put the YouTube links to the bird's fucking. Okay, so that's an option. You can also just email them directly to the AMPTP subject line, hang loose. Yeah, that's also good. Anyway, bird just email them directly to the AMPTP subject line, hang loose. Yeah. That's also good.

Anyway, birdfuck.com, check it out, and enjoy this week's episode, this week on Doe Boys, Howlin' Rays. Wow. So it's the Dono Wars! Dono Wars! Welcome to Dono Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger. Along with my coast, Spamuel Chompers, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell. What? That's a nod to Samuel Gompers, who founded the AFL.

I'll give you a little context from this, Gompers, who founded the AFL. I'll give you a little context from this, Rose. Uh, uh, here we go. I love you guys. They've been a devoted listener for the last five years or so, and I express my love for the pod in two main ways. Going to your live shows when they're in my neck of the woods and periodically submitting roasts.

I wanted to try out some roasts that riff on the strikes and name drop some historic labor leaders. All of these were created with nothing but love for Mitch and the show and for all the strikers. There we go. Socialist presidential candidate, huge cream V-Debs. Sloppy Joe Hill, I like this one, chunked, covered in smothered Jones,

Boyard, he rocks Ben, and then I think we use this on the pod last week for someone else, little Caesar's Chavez. And then- So, probably I really kind of only know the reference to the last one. last week where someone else, Little Caesar is Chavez. And now- And then- And then- And then- And then-

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rostmumengagingmail.com. Wow, what a start, wow. What a start. It seems like it will make sense soon, but it seems like we either just worked out a lot or are coming back from a funeral. We're in distress. We're in distress and it's be related to the topic of this podcast. We're powering through it.

I was nervous about you for a minute in there, but we'll get to it in a second. Yeah. Embarrassing because the guest is here about how to hold just for a nation. You know, when you got a good guest just is embarrassing to do that it's bad Shows bad We know the shows bad. I'm not trying to spiral here, but um, am I let's hit them with a drop. Let's get this all over with as fast as possible I can't help but notice also my stomach is truly grow grow Growing my stomach is truly growling. Growling. Growling.

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My stomach's growling. No one knows you'll be something this shit right here! God, this show sucks. Well, it was in the drop. It was in the drop. It makes it kind of a good drop, honestly. Hi to the Doe Boy's crew, my name is Andrew, and I'm a long time listener, but this is the first drop I've made

in a fit of inspiration after hearing this exchange on the Corner Bakery episode. I make music under the moniker, where's your dog now? And I promise it sounds nothing like this drop. Thanks for all the laughs, Andrew. Thanks, Andrew. Wow, thanks, Andrew. Growling.

I got it right now. Growling. Growling. Yeah, I don't know why I was in this shoe back then. This show sucks might be as much of a catchphrase of yours as Heidi Ho. Like you say, hit about once in episode. And you're right. Yes, my famous catchphrase, how do you hoe that I came up with? That's where I know it from. Mitch, you have family in town. I do. My mom and sister. Yes. We were in Carmel, California. I was hoping to get to see them. I thought they were gonna stop by the studio. They're gonna come. They have. We were gonna.

The head gum parking lot is a little. It's kind of crazy. Hmm. And I don't want my mom because I thought something bad would happen with the car. And then they left and they texted me that there was a flat tire. So I was right in a way that something bad would happen. But they're gonna they'll be here to say hello for a second at the end of the day. They're off. I don't know. They're doing fucking something. No, they don't know, they're doing fucking something. Who knows, they're fucking, they're doing great. Michael, we got a flat. What does she want me to do?

She knows her son is useless. I can't help in that scenario. And so the AAA guy came, they're fine. Oh, they're set. I think they're gonna, they're helping me, they're helping me, they're helping me fill out my placewags. They're getting like, they bought me a basket. Oh, there you go.

And they bought that little table. I was over at that place, and I was like, man, this place needs a basket. They tie the whole living area together. They bought me this globe, but like it sun hits it, and, it glows in the dark. Wait, really? Yeah, my mom bought it for me.

Put it outside, it looks nice. Does she think you're eight? Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Put some stars on the ceiling. Give a mobile. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. She bought new diapers, I told you that. Ha, ha,. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm been in the works for a while. I checked that email thread, which you replied to earlier this month. And that started, the process of trying to get you

on doboys and figure out a time what worked for everyone's schedule in 2017. Is that right? Six years have passed. Wow. That's crazy. We could have done so many different chain restaurants. I know.

We could have bombed in front of you for 20 plus hours. You had to feel better about the show back then. No. No. That was your two, so I think we were pretty. Yes, but it's taken so long. I don't know why. It's just, you know, yeah, I wanted to do it

for a very, very long time, so thank you. We know you want to do it. And we're very happy to work out. We are in distress. We are a little bit. Okay, so this conversation began in terms of what chain to cover with. You were asking about fried chicken sandwiches and what chain to cover because you love fried chicken sandwiches.

I do. I love fried chicken sandwiches. I love fried chicken. Chicken tenders are like top five favorite foods for me. You put tenders. You put tenders above a fried chicken sandwich? I do. Wow, okay.

It just, I don't order it because I feel like a child. Yeah. And I was like, you know, I'm not. Yeah, you're not. Tendies. Like, I, you know, I don't think I've ever had a chicken tender. I didn't like, like even at like, you know, when you go to like a amusement park or something, I probably the best trick contenders I ever ate was that Disney, whichever ones in Orlando,

Disney Land. Okay. Yeah. This Disney world. Disney world. It's the one that I think, is there a Hercules Disney? Yes. They had a Hercules restaurant just was years ago. Just like, you know Just like one of those. And it was like mighty, mighty, mighty, bicep chicken strips or whatever they were called. I love it. Best chicken strips I've ever had in my life. Universal should counter with the Nutty Professors

Hercules chicken tender spot. I think that would be good. Well, I mean, first of all, there's not enough nutty professor stuff as is. So I think that a big a good, well, I mean, first of all, there's not enough naughty professor stuff as is. So I think that, you're a big naughty professor guy. Why was your favorite part of the naughty professor? I like the clump family.

The clump family. All right, good pull. The clump dinner scene, of course. Of course, classic. This is a blast. Yeah. Those movies are, two is, gets a little crazy. Buddy love reverses an age to these,

puddle of seam in at one point. So it is kind of a weird take on the second one. Yeah, and I think Larry Miller, it plays like the principal, or so he plays like, and like he, and like a hamster like, like has sex with it. Oh yeah, hamster fucks him. Yeah, giant hamster. I am so fucks up. That is the fuck by him.

Okay, I'm so sorry. I can't tell is this riffing or real? No, this is real. This is absolutely real. This is real. This is real, yeah. Wait, so you're saying in Nadi Professor too, Larry Miller who plays a principal gets fucked

by a giant hamster? I believe so. And listen to him. Oh, is he a principal or is he like his boss? He did some. That's not the point of the story. That's not the interesting part of the story. He is high status.

So that like I don't know what, remember where he is exactly professionally, but yeah, he's high status. But, John Hamson, do you remember in training places? Oh yeah. Gorilla, they, they, someone gets, they get fucked by the, yeah. By a gorilla.

Yeah, the, the, the, the two, it's the two old boss guys, right? Yeah, I don't, I said them who gets fucked. I know it's bad guys. Yeah, a bad guy. Oh, a bad guy. A bad guy, but then doesn't he, isn't he also kind of like, doesn't he kind of get like resigned? Doesn't he kind of have to, yeah, he's kind of like, well, it's a living sort of thing at one point.

Yeah, I think so. I think he, I think he stops fighting at some point. I think, isn't there one where, it doesn't the gorilla have his arm around him and they're like, yeah, it's not going. They're kind of snuggling. That's what I was thinking. Yeah.

This is the strangest way to reveal that the two of you are doing the trading places remake. This is, but you know, that's how they want to publicize it. That's a lopsuit, ready? It's a strike. So we're doing a bootleg version of it right now. Bootlegs are allowed.

Non-union, yeah, bootlegs are allowed. Strategy DVD stuff is allowed. I googled it real quick to try and fire Bing did and try to find out and I think the Hercules restaurant in Disney World is now closed. Yeah, I think it has closed. A couple of years ago, I wanted to go with Emily and I was like, Emily, get ready to have the best chicken dinner that T tenders you've ever had. They were like the level of spice was good.

Like it was, it wasn't, you know, it was a little bit formidable, but still you can still go on a roller coaster, you know. That's, I would not want to go on a roller coaster after this meal today. Certainly not. No, I would not want to do a podcast, but here we are.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I had to stop. I had to give up my chicken sandwich. And I took one bite. Is that what you're about to say? I took one single bite. Um, let's, what we're talking spicy. Uh, Camille, you were saying earlier that you had, you were in a jalapeno eating contest.

Yeah. So, you know, I grew up in Pakistan. Our food is pretty spicy. I was saying Indian Pakistani food. Our food spicy, but we have a reasonable ceiling of like, like Thai food where I think the, it's the stratosphere, you go all the way to the sky. So I was like in college and I was like,

oh, I can handle a lot of spice. So I entered a jalapeno eating contest with, you know, let's face it, a bunch of other men. And, because it's such a stupid thing to do. And I couldn't handle it. I realized like my spice level is good because of where I'm from and the food I eat and stuff. But it's not really, you know, it's not competition worthy. Can I take another wild stab here? Five of those guys kind of looked like me. Well, the guy who won actually was Indian.

He's still a friend of mine. Yeah. Wow. And he went outside and I remember it was the winter. This was Iowa and he threw up and there was like smoke. Smoke in the snow. It was like bad. It was we were like, this is so what's that only one.

But did you? What did that accomplish? Yeah. So, so then I realized no more help in you eating contest and I realized that my ceiling for spice is decent, but it's not, you know, award worthy. That's, you know what, that's kind of where I am because you know what, I like to say the podcast

and I'm a bit of a heat seeker. I like spicy foods, but the key is a bit of, because like I can't do the contest level stuff and Mitch, I was definitely feeling it a bit. You were hurting today, I was a boy. You say you're a bit of, because I can't do the contest level stuff, and I was definitely feeling it a bit too. You were hurting today, I was a boy. You say you're a bit of a heat seeker today, you were trudging through this. No, I like it at a certain threshold,

but then it starts to get to, when it's a dare level, I'm just in distress. So we got hollin' raised, or is that come on later? I'm gonna get to it in a little bit, but we can start talking about it. He's pissed. No. Sorry, take that talking about it. He's pissed. No.

Sorry, take that out. Take that out. Steam coming off of me like a pile of vomit in Iowa. That'll say. I, Emily says I should have a TV show called Sweating and Restaurants with Camel. In my normal life I don't sweat. when I work out, I don't sweat. But if I eat spicy food even a little bit, it's a spigot.

So much, I'm like, it's awful. And the worst, we had just moved to LA and we got in a list of restaurants and we went to a place called Jitlata. Oh, yeah, I love Jitlata. Oh, LA's stalwart, you know? I think, I'm being sincere, I say this, I think it's like my top 10 favorite restaurants of all time. It's one of the best restaurants in LA.

And it's when people are like, I'm going to the city what should I eat at? I always say Jidlata. It's a Thai restaurant where people aren't aware. Yeah, it's a Thai restaurant and they have like, they do like Southern Thai, which I don't know what that means except they have a, you know, they have a bunch of dishes that you don't see other places, but their thing is, they're food spicy.

That's their thing. And I was like, I can handle spicy food. And so I got the spiciest thing, which is this, they have this thing called quackling chicken, which is amazing, but I got it extra spicy. And then I got a milkshake, a mango milkshake that you can also get spicy.

Wow. And I got that spicy. So it's this weird feeling of eating the food. It's destroying me. It's awful. And then there's a milkshake. So you think, oh, this milkshake will help, right? I had to go and sit in the car for 20 minutes to put my life back together.

Like Emily stayed in the restaurant and I went and genuinely had to like pick up the pieces. I loved it. Lotta. Shout out to to jazz who is just the but like I feel like the ton of good. What are you gonna do? Jazz is jazz listener. Jazz what I got to do to end up on your Instagram. I know. I see all the other. I see all the other.

I'm the one. I got to do. You look at her as fucking Mark doofson's on there. That. That quality is on there. What's going on? Get made it. What the fuck? Who are these fucking people? You gotta get on there. This is insane. Yeah, what the fuck? I go there all the time. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. So I've a jazz, jazz is lovely and it always makes you feel welcome and always makes it like it's just like I did say to jazz. I was like, I'm from the Doe Boys podcast, and he's like, I know.

I don't really know. I don't know. I will say when I used to be on Instagram, jazz followed me back. Wow. And then one time she commented on one of my pictures, a handsome, I was like, how about that? I felt like I'm million bucks.

Yeah. She's got good taste in food at least. I'm like, my experience with spicy a gelata, like a million bucks. Yeah. She's got good taste in food at least. Hahaha. So my experience with spicy at gelata, my lovely wife Natalie is like love spicy and she's like at the level of like, she'll just have the spiciest thing. My question to you is would she have, I know we're not getting into it.

Yeah. But like I said, you were trudging through, I was also looking up the definition of trudging, I was correct. You were trudging through your deal. You weren't sure about what trudging, I knew true, but it's like, I was like, I haven't of trudging. I was correct. You were trudging through your deal. You weren't sure about what trudging, man. I knew Trot, but I, it's like, I was like, I haven't said trudging in a while.

I should just double check to make sure it is what I think. He was trudging through. I was trudging through it. You were trudging through it. Natalie wouldn't, Natalie would be fine, right? You think so? I think she'd be okay. I think she definitely feel it.

She'd be showing something, but she'd be okay. But like, so. She's the real heat seeker. I think she'd definitely feel it. She'd be showing something, but she'd be okay. But like, so. She's a real heat seeker. She's a real heat seeker. But there's a thing at Jalata, which is the spicy challenge. It's like their spiciest thing. And she wanted to get it on her birthday.

That's how much she'll have spicy food. She did it. And she wanted it specifically with tofu, because she knew that we were chain heat more. So she got the spiciest version, the spiciest thing. And she just powered through it. She did. she got the spiciest version, the spiciest thing, and she just kind of powered through it. She did, yeah. She did the spice challenge.

And then, and meanwhile, I'm eating something regular on something normally spicy on their menu. I'm like, have to hold like ice chips in my mouth. They do give you ice chips. They give you sort of frozen cold vegetable, like slices of carrots and stuff. Which is fun. It is fun, it is fun, and it's necessary

for a lot of their food. I've also learned going to Thai restaurants, other ones, when I say spicy, a lot of them would be American spicy or Thai spicy. Don't say Thai spicy. They're trying to make a point. It's a lot of, I think. It's like crushed glass in it.

Do a lot of the places where I think that a lot of people are like, make it spicy, I think that they're like, I'm not going to even do this to this idiot. Like, they don't know what they're getting into basically. Yeah. When I ordered you to lie down like, just however it comes. So, that's you decide. And the level of spice varies, but it's always pretty high. But the food is so good that you put up on that.

Yeah, that's the thing. pretty high, but the food is so good that you put up with it. Yeah, that's the thing. That, and look, we talked about this beforehand. Your person who can handle spice, you were on hot ones. I was on hot ones. Which is, there'll be like a new hot ones, and it'll be like hot ones with like, you know, like Jennifer Lawrence,

and then there'll be a doughboys listener. It's like, the doughboys should be on them. Like, it's Jennifer Lawrence. What are you thinking? What do you think it? What are you doing? You're embarrassing us. You can't even end up on Jazzy's feet. We can't get on hot ones.

No, but I love that YouTube show. How was the extreme spiciness, like the top level, the final, what is it called? The final dab or whatever the fuck is? I will say that up until like six or so, it's fine. It's really not bad. And for me, it didn't go gradual. Like it was until six, it was fine. I don't remember the numbers, maybe seven.

And then one was like, suddenly one was way too spicy. Yeah. And then it sort of stayed there. I didn't feel that it got hotter after that. I think I'd already, you know, my taste buds can do what they can do and they'd hit their max. But it sort of flipped for me like on a dime and then it stayed there. It was just super spicy all the way through.

Is that was that last hot sauce like one of the hottest things you how how did it compare to today? would you say? I would say that it was pretty, it wasn't that far off from what we just ate. Interesting. What we just ate was like unbearable. Yes. I feel like there's no, to me there aren't levels

of unbearable. I think unbearable is like, you know, it's all, once you cross over into it. Once you cross over into it, it's torture. And I think it was is like, you know, it's all... Once you cross over into it. Once you cross over into it, it's torture. And I think it was definitely just, you know, it's over the line of torture, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. You need to look up unbearable on your phone.

It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much.

It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It means bad. Not good. I'm terrible. Well, he's doing that. We're going to talk about spicy a lot, and we're going to talk about French-Eak-It, but I do want to take a little bit of a pinch of it.

You got to be fibbing me. Oh, no, never mind. You see, you got to be fibbing me. You have to be fibbing me with this, but it was the wrong word. That's what, because I looked it up. I said, not capable of being defeated. And then I asked, it was unbeatable. It was unbeatable.

Yeah. Right. Ironically, you did just get defeated. That's it. By your own thumb. That's it. I'm terrible. I wanted to take a little tangent to ask you about,

because, you know, I think you pretty famously just surprised everyone by getting jacked to play Kingo in internals. And I'm curious from a nutrition standpoint. I'm curious, can I do it? Yeah, can I do it? No, you can't, the fucking answer. But I'm curious, when you were doing that, what were you eating?

Did you have a caloric regimen that was intense? Yeah, well, I don't wanna say, first of all, that what I did was healthy. Sure, certainly wouldn't do it again. I did a bulk and then I did a cut. Okay. I had found out quite a while before that I was gonna do the movie.

I had like a year and a half, so I had quite a bit of time. And so I did a bulk and I gained, you know, I gained, uh, like I would say 30 to 40 pounds, but I was eating like I would come home, eat a fried chicken sandwich and fries at midnight and go to bed. I was eating constantly all the time and working out a lot too. And so I felt pretty awful. I looked pretty awful. And then I had a few months till the movie was starting

and I was like, oh, I've done, I've made a huge mistake. So then the cut was also very intense. And also not healthy to be honest, you know? So everything he was described up to the cut sounds like the podcast honestly. Yeah, well, minus the working out. Yeah. Yeah, I did make it work.

Well, eating the fried chicken sandwich at midnight, that's that similar to the pod. Definitely fried chicken sandwich at midnight. And, you know, and I actually gained weight for a role last year. And I did the same thing. I gained about 30 pounds. I was eating five meals a day, five unhealthy meals a day.

And it was, yeah. So I would say if someone wants to get in shape, first of all, you know, only do it if you wanna do it, like just find a way to like yourself, whatever that is, you know, whatever that takes. But I would not say, yeah. I'm just thinking about myself. That seems like, my partner, they're doing a ball

in the crack. What am I saying? It's an easy way to be comfortably in your own skin. Oh, okay. I think that nobody has ever accomplished. At least no non-jianny ever has. Same with the Beatles, we're right there with you. I would say if you want to do it, don't do a bulk in a cut.

Just like figure out how much to work out, what you want to eat, how much to eat, and then just take it slow and just slowly, you know, slowly do it, rather than what I did, which was, which was very intense because then the cut was also, you know, it sucks to go for meeting as much as you possibly can to being hungry all the time. But it's cool that you can, well, I was going to say it's cool that you can kick Waggers ass, but you always could. So I guess you could kick Waggers ass even more so now than ever. It's cool that you can knock Wagger out before he starts crying.

Wait, so you're bulking. Are you working with a nutritionist or are you working with a trainer? Is someone just kind of like, hey, you have carte blanche to just eat this, hit this target of calories and you can just eat whatever? No, so I had a trainer and he said, you gotta eat this much protein and then the rest fill it out however you want.

Wow. So you have that much leeway. It's just a matter of just having a shitload of calories. And protein. Yeah, cause the point is just to gain weight. Right, and that's not hard to do. You just want to make sure you're getting enough protein to turn into muscle, yeah.

So it basically is, you're kind of building up a chrysalis and then shedding it. It's that kind of that process. It's like you're making the block a marble and then you're chiseling it down. Yeah, then you're unwrapping the present. Yeah, it's, uh, it's, uh, you can see Tommy. Look up crystal. That is not, you know, I'm not even gonna jump that one because I don't know how to spell it. I think it's a CH. I think it's one of them CH towards the dough sound like a CH.H. Yeah, it is.

And I think, you know, that's what like bodybuilders do. They're always like, if you see them between seasons, they're always like a lot bigger. But then, you know, I really, really, when I cut down, I really, you know, I know I released that fucking picture, you know, that'll do. Do you know how much I weighed in that picture? Do you know what picture I'm talking about?

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. At least like my, yeah, I can look at my lock screen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. How much did you weigh? What do you think?

Well, since you're saying, you're, like, now I'm thinking it's probably less than I would think. So I'm gonna say 170. I was, the day that picture was taken, 149. That's great. 149. That's so great. That's how I was.

Right? Low 150's because, you know, there's only so much muscle you can gain in a year and a half, right? And so it just looks, you know, it looks a certain way on camera if you're like lean enough, but I, I wasn't really that big.

With a shirt on, you would have no idea that, you know, I had been starving myself for months. And every role I think I've done in my life, I think that I get fatter over the course of production. I think it's an issue. I've talked about this, why is there's been points where I'm like, we need, maybe need to write in a reason that my character has gotten bigger

Like you know, I had that on Silicon Valley I remember one season because you know, we we shoot for like four or five months and then there was one episode We had to reshoot some parts of like episode one. Yeah, so they cut it in and as I was watching the episode I could see the difference in coverage and so they cut it in and as I was watching the episode, I could see the difference in coverage. That's very funny. Oh, wow. That's, I did a movie called Other People Wags

and I've told you this story before, but they were like, we like- Great movie. A great movie. They did a great job with that. But they were like, we wanted to shave your beard. Yeah, you would be bearded. And I was like, I really didn't want it.

It was shortly after Harris had died. He was a close friend and I was felt fat and gross and we're blaming that on your friend's death Why not he's not around anymore That cuz my friend died One of the worst things to come about from that thing is I got a little chubbier One of the worst things to come about from that thing is I got a little chubbier And they were like they were I was like they wanted to shave your beard the director wants to shave your beard I was like, I don't think I can and they came back and like he wants you to Fuck I mean like that was if my want attempt to not do it was be like I don't think I should and then he was like

I want you to and so I Shaved it and I was like, yeah, that's fine. It won't be people I'm in a scene of the movie, it'll be fine. And then I was the thumbnail wags on Netflix. I was the, I'm in the movie for like 30 seconds. And the thumbnail was me. I look like a fucking bullfrog and fucking suck. You look great.

You're just, it's just one of those things you're self-conscious. And I think it's a lot of bearded men or I feel this way of like, you lose the beard, you feel like you've lost a layer of protection, right? It's like kind of like, when I've been a little beardier, and I'm relatively clean-shaven now,

but it's like, I feel like people are looking at you wondering how much is beard and how much is face, you know? And in your case, there's a lot of face. Yeah, you've talked about this before that there's a lot of face. Thanks. Why would you start it off so nice?

No, no, no, no. And in a lot of thanks. Thanks. Wow, you started off so nice. And of course, what a journey. Also, the way you see yourself is not how other people see you. We're all broken. I remember when I was really, really like, you know, cut and stuff. I remember I'd wake up in the morning, I'd look in the mirror, myself short-lost, and for a second I'd be like, oh, I look great.

And I would see my body change in front of my eyes. I would see it physically change, and then I would only see the things that I didn't like about it. This happened every morning. I would look at myself, be like, whoa! And then I would literally like, you know, it would morph into.

It was your organ settled? Like what's happening? Yeah, my organ settled. I don't know, it really was like the definition would go as I look, because I could see like the filter that my brain was putting over my eyes over myself. And so I'm always trying to be aware of that, but it's, you know but it's something, honestly,

that I have issues with all the time. I think I'm on a journey, I think. It's hard, especially for a guy who has a quote unquote, a lot of face. Can I, can I, can I, look, come on. Yeah, I got a lot of face. I got a lot of face.

It was on the fucking, that's the great face. You want more of that. I got a lot of face. It was on the fucking. Well, listen, it's a great face. You want more of that. It's a good face. You look great. Thank you. Thank you. And then I'll say this after I did, it turned out as you know, I for years after that,

I tracked every single thing I ate and I put it into an app. If I ate a grape, I would put into an app. If I didn't, I put into an app for years. I mean, I only stopped doing that last year. Oh, shit. And so, you know, it's certainly something that, you know, I have to be very intentional about, you know, just being comfortable and happy because I love food so much. Yeah. My favorite thing, my favorite thing in the world to do is me and Emily go to a great restaurant, sit there for hours and eat,

or go out with my friends, eat at a restaurant. My family, that's how we hang out. We go out to restaurants. My mom's an amazing cook. So food is so important to me. And I realized that for years, I had such a weird relationship with it. I mean, I've always had a had such a weird relationship with it. I mean, I've always had a bit of a weird relationship with it, but genuinely the last few years.

And it's a fucking shame, you know? Yeah. It's hard. I mean, it's the same thing here with this podcast we were both, I was tracking stuff just recently, and then I stopped, but it did feel like a lot to think of every single, every single morsel that you're eating. It takes the enjoyment out of it,

and it's too much, I think. I think that's, I think this is amazing to hear just because, I think a lot of people, myself included, and kinda just saw you in that shape and were like, oh man, that's gold. Like he looks fantastic, he looks terrific. And then to hear that that was like,

even at that status, you were still not, you know, super comfortable in your own skin. It was like, oh, it's like, there isn't like a threshold you get to where you feel like, oh, okay, now I'm finished. Like this is how I want myself to look. Actually, while we were shooting, you know, and I was still sort of, while we were shooting

eternal Richard Madden came to me and he was like, someday you're gonna look back at this and how you looked right now and not believe that you still thought that you want where you wanted to be. He's like, you're gonna look back at this and it's gonna blow your mind that this wasn't where you wanted to be. He's like, you're gonna look back at this and it's gonna blow your mind that this wasn't enough for you. And he's totally right.

So now, I still eat healthy, but I just sort of, I'll go out a couple of times a week, I'll eat whatever I want, and then the other times I try and keep it fairly healthy. I also did find in doing all that and doing so many weird fucking diets. I found out how food makes me feel physically. Like I had no idea for years.

So now I know if I eat like a sugary chocolate, I know the feeling it gives me. I don't mean like the sensation of, you know, I don't mean the good taste and stuff. I mean, how it makes me feel like a half hour later. So I'm much more aware of that now. That's, I never realized that too, just exercise. I mean, even just walking, getting steps in and, and then you can just make you feel so much,

well, I'll be like, I'm gonna run. I'm like, yeah, I've eaten terrible and I haven't walked and forever and that's it and it will always be the case. But I'll look back at pictures from when I was 25 and I'll look like the statue of David Wigz. I look like David. Specifically. You got a little day.

Yeah. Specifically. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be like, honestly, just kind of. And now FaceDante, the only thing that's big. Specifically, right here, I look like David. Which I argue, I've argued on the podcast before, which is not a good look.

I argue David is doing all right. I think David's doing okay. He's flaccid, he can't only judge so much. Oh, hard on David. Maybe it was a cool. It was David that Michael Langello, you know, got there. It was a cold day and Roma wherever the fuck they were. I'm looking in the mirror sometimes.

I'm saying I wish I was David today. There's a lot of days like that for me, like, so, they lay off David for a second. Would you everybody? You look great, man. You do. You do. Thank you.

And David looks great. David looks great. It's big. It's big It's big David. It's big. It's big. It's huge Michael angel. I Thumbs up to Michael angel for representing We went and saw that I had this weird. Have you guys seen it in and now in person? I saw yeah He's never crossing over. I know you're you're You don't like flying or something? We just haven't had the opportunity. I kind of have an opportunity.

I also, I do get really anxious in close spaces. You got yelled at by a, uh, a food travel guy. I did. Bill. Oh, somebody feed Bill. Somebody feed Bill. Oh, I know. Fully the great guy.

He yelled at me. He came in the pod and me. He yelled at Wags. We're not traveling. It was very funny. It's great. Just do it. Yeah came in the pod and me. He all that logs were not traveling was very funny. It's great. Just do it. Yeah, I'll do it someday. We'll figure it out.

Yeah, figure it out. We went to, so we went to, I think it's the Fitsy Museum, right? It's Lawrence. And we went in, and I don't know anything about art, I genuinely don't. But when you see the Sistine Chapel or the David, I had an emotional reaction to seeing it just because it's so beautiful that even my like untrained artistically untrained

eye was like taking a back at a real emotional reaction. And then you go to another room and you remember this, there were like eight pieces, like eight huge blocks of granite that had like, there were like eight blocks of dick, dick, and it was all kinds of dicks, you know? And these, well different levels of, oh, this one says Johnny Sins. Wow. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah. Ah.

Ah. Ah. Ah. So there's a bunch of like just, like, that was my point. No, that was my point. You don't get the story now. No, it was like sort of unfinished sculptures that he had started making. Uh-huh.

And it was like a block of, it looked gorgeous because it's like a block of stone with like a face trying, like people trying to come out of it. It looked like, and it all said that underneath it, the reason that he never finished is that the benefactor, like, you know, he ran out of money to stop like funding the project. And I was like, fucking Michelangelo, after making the statue of David couldn't get funding for this nice project. That's wild. So, you know, don't feel bad about how we're doing here. That's a great point. I mean, like, the Doe Boys is our Michael,

is our Michelangelo Goddamer. You wanna take it again? Yeah. The Doe Boys is our David. And I can't get my next pod project off the groundwigs. This isn't my dating profile on my hinge. This is one of the pictures I used. This is, I haven't get my next pod project off the groundwigs. This isn't my dating profile on my hinge. This is one of the pictures I used. This is, I haven't used tangent forever,

but it's me with that. That's not true. That's not true. It's kind of a warning shot. It's funny to see everybody else is looking at the most gorgeous sculpture ever made and you're facing away from it. Looking at it through the screen of your tiny phone. There it is.

It's great. Yeah, not a lot of people liked that one for whatever reason, but, you know, food in Italy also fan, why is you'd like it for that alone? In Florence, specifically, I've heard this. Like, yeah, there's a sandwich shop in Florence. Yes, that, you know, it's coming, yeah. There's a sandwich shop in Florence. Do you know that in this, do you know it's coming to LA? It's supposed to come to LA.

Is it called like L-do-a, is it? Yes. The one that means two brothers? Hmm, I don't know. I don't know. Oh, look at that. The one I was told to go to, and it's just like in an alley.

Yeah, that sounds right. Il-do-a-fractor alley? Antico, that's the one I know. Way off. Did you know Ant, did you go to the dining hall? Antico, okay, yeah. That's because Antico something. He'll do it fraccurali antico that's that's the one I know way off Did you know ant did you know antico? Okay, that's was antico something There's a lot of antico in Los Angeles aren't there I feel like every other That mean I don't know it's a great means the well well well

I know I'm just you know open another tab here wait Wait, I do have a, I do have one more eternal's question, which is, and this relates to food. Did you get a Kingo happy meal toy for McDonald's? I got two. Wow, I tried to get one, and it was like. Yeah, I couldn't, and then I asked for another one, they're like kind of mad at me. No, I got a couple of people got them for me.

A friend of ours went and got him specifically asked for that one. And then, yeah, then I got another one and I gave it to my niece, who was a big kingo fan. That is kind of the dream. That's kind of the dream. A happy meal toy. Come on. Yeah, it's pretty good.

Is he the first guest who's ever been a happy meal toy? Pretty sure there's a cruiser of Miras happy meal toy. Oh, you're good. You're still on. How dare you? It's pissed. Mad again. Is this what it is?

He gets mad and you have to like manage him. It's usually honestly the other way around. So it's kind of flipped our dynamic today. Look, we got lots more to talk about. We'll be right back with more Doe Boys. Le Estague Standome podcast. No, I hear you reply. Well, thanks to Babel, I know what that means.

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He did a stodge at Husk. You guys eaten at Husk? There's one in Nashville. There's a few. It's like a big southern fine dining chain. And I've eaten there a few times. It is really good. He learned about Nashville hot chicken at a while doing a stodge

at Husk. And then started as subsequently started the Howland food truck in LA. You gotta be fibbing me. It's true. I was trying to make it a thing. I think it's catching on. Why, she got to be fibbing me with all this. I'm not fibbing you, Mitch.

You fibbing? I'm not fibbing. I swear I'm not fibbing. You'll know when I'm not fibbing you, Mitch. You, Fibbing? I'm not fibbing. I swear I'm not fibbing. You'll know when I'm fibbing. I. Fibbing up a storm. So we started a Howling Food Truck, turned that into a brick and mortar.

It is famed for super long lines, Mitch. You and I have been there together. I think we waited two plus hours before a PWG show. Oh, you get howling, do you remember that? No, I joined you after you had done most of the work. Sounds like our doughboys relationship in many ways. And, um, and Carlson were there for what? We were there for over two hours.

And yeah, you showed up. And then, um, uh, we're gonna love leave you alone. I was my issue, I'll say that, that my issue with howling forever was the line. I would just never wait that long. They would treat all the time, only 45 minute wait and call for a city or wherever. Yeah. Because they've got two now, right? They've got one in Chinatown and now one in Pasadena.

So that's helped to mitigate things a lot. The other thing is they are now also on postmates, which is how you and I got our meal and Mitch, did you go physically? No, I got postmates. You also got postmates. Okay. So I've been in person.

If you ate today. I ate today. My mom and sister and I all ate it today and they all have, both of them have thoughts on the restaurant, but I will save it. But the short of it is it's a natural hot chicken concept that's based in LA that people love and people line up around the block for

and franchise. It's a little bit of a hipster inside of a hipster side to it sure. A franchising brands have approached them to try to like turn this into like a Dave's hot chicken and they've refused. They've tried to keep it like, which I appreciate.

I respect that too, because they've really managed the quality control. Camille, so you've been that, you like, again, you came to us, you were like, I really fried chicken sandwiches and we pitched you this place and you were game and you've had this before. Yes, I have.

Yes. Maybe my third time having it. Okay, yeah. This is probably my third time having it. Okay, good. I probably my third time having it too. I haven't, that shows you because it's now been around for what, five or six years, right? It's been, yeah, it's a few. You're under maybe.

Yeah, I probably around three. It's fewer than five, I think. Oh, really? I know it was before the pandemic. Yeah, it was before the pandemic, which now is like three years. We're asking you how many years, or how many times I've had it.

Oh, sorry, you've had it three as well. I've had it three times. Yeah, you've had it three times. Okay. You were then five times I was saying. Oh, I was very confusing. Oh, I was very confusing. It was.

I'm on your side. I'm on your side. I've had it. I think the chicken itself is fantastic. Yeah, I think the crisp on it is great. It travels pretty well. It does, surprisingly. Yeah, I think the the the the Chris bonnet is great. It travels pretty well. It does. Yeah, surprisingly.

Yeah. Look, I'll just say what my mom said to just get out of the way. This is the best fried chicken I've ever had. It's what you said. Good mom said that. She did. And your mom's from Quincy. Quincy, Massachusetts, not a fried chicken hot bed,

but what do you all got? Like lobster rolls? We do we in fact, we do have some great lobster rolls. That is, that's more... You do have a tremendous lobster. We have some great food, that's more of our thing. Yeah. But she's, you know, my mom's 75 years old,

she'll be mad at me for saying that. She's 45 years old. She's eating a lot of hot chicken, she's eaten chicken in her day fried chicken. Yeah, sure. And she, she doesn't have it that often because, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not great for you, obviously, but she, she does love it. And, but she also, she's like, I used to love KFC. So she loved KFC at one point. I think KFC's, I have not KFC in years, but I loved KFC. Last time I had KFC, it was hidden,

but KFC can be a little bit inconsistent. That's a young band. I definitely had my Popeye's face in Chicago. I wanted Popeyes all the time. I love Popeyes. I think Popeyes is pretty consistent as like the big freckings. This is nothing my mom said today. She's like, this sandwich is better than that.

Pop-I's chicken sandwich, which she liked, by the way. It's, look, I like, they're in different categories. I'm not, no, but I agree with your mom. It's a better fried chicken sandwich than the Popeyes fried chicken. It's impressive what Popeyes can do at scale, but. Yeah, we would just in London and Popeyes is huge though. Is it really?

Yeah, there's a ton of Popeyes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and they're really leaning to the Louisiana of it. Wow. You know what's weird in London, their hipster aesthetic is like what we would call, I mean, I don't know if it's okay to say it, like white trash.

Like that's what, they were car heartened stuff. Wow. You probably will find a lot of our listeners, specifically, because that's kind of our listener base. Well, listen, I'm married to White Trash. I think it's that. She doesn't even, she does what you call herself.

It's okay. I'm half my family is. That's the tipster vibe in England. That's fascinating. It's like Southern America. It's interesting. So your mom loved it and she got the sandwich. My mom loved it.

She got the sandwich. Actually, she tried the sandwich. She actually got the breast and the wing combo wags, which I think maybe you got it. I got the leg and thigh. You got the leg and thigh. I like dark meat, but I like white meat. I like breast. Yeah.

I mean, I'm not, I'm being serious. I know, I'm a fool. I'm a master at it. Yeah, I see why your mom got you a basket. But the chicken itself is really high quality. It's really well cooked. It's juicy. It's the kind of fry that just locks in the moisture.

And even when it had the white meat, it's still very moist. And I think it's a great fry on it. You're absolutely right that it travels surprisingly well. This was my first time. I had to feel like a fucking loser for laughing at breasts. I was like, ugh, that sucks. No, it's fine.

It's not. Oh, it's funny. It's charming. It's funny. It's funny. Oh. All right. You were already laughing when I said I prefer white meat.

I don't know what was going on in your head with that. If you were anticipating me saying press or if you just said the word breast to yourself in your head before I said I don't know what that was. It's gonna spot on. You know our dipshit listenership. They're gonna be like man, Kumail was so funny, it was great when he said breast, I was dying. Fucking idiot, so listen to this show. Oh, and I like fried chicken sandwiches. I always like to be able to like,

I don't like like, just maybe blasphemy. I don't like pickles on my fried chicken sandwich. Interesting. I think they do a good job of cutting through here. Here's a critique, my sister said. The vinegar slot, not enough vinegar on it. I don't love their, of their sides.

I don't love their slaw. I do think that their fries are great. I think their potato salad is really good. And I think that, and maybe we'll delay our talk on the dessert, but I think the banana pudding is dynamite. Yeah, the thing about fries is they're a crinkle cut fries. And I think crinkle cut fries just keep better. They travel better.

I think my ideal fries issue string, but I think that that goes limp very quickly. But crinkle, I think, I don't know what the physics is, but it stays crispier longer. Mitch, what's your ideal fry? I just don't like when he's good. I think they go limp very quickly and then you shy your eyes over me and back.

You're a piece of shit. He did it. I'm telling you. Yeah, she was freaking fries go limp and you put next to a chicken breast and then they harden right up again. They're freaking it up. What are my thoughts on shoes on?

No, what's your ideal fry? Honestly, maybe this is a plain old classic fry. Mm, interesting. Like a McDonald's, the like the... I think the McDonald's fry is maybe the perfect fry. Sure. If McDonald's fries are done right, are they not the best fry?

They're great. They're great. I really like a curly fry, but I honestly, crinkle cut, that's a contender for me. I think crinkle cuts are really consistent. And I love Del Taco. I think Shake Shack's fries are a highlight. And I think the crinkle cut fries here are dynamite.

Yeah, I like curly fries are fun. I like waffle fries too, I feel sure. Oh sure. Oh, steak fries too. I feel like I'm in the mood. Steak fries can go fucked themselves. I don't like the big fat fry. I think that we've talked about every fry. It's too many times. We've talked about every fry.

All right, let's keep going. No, it's just embarrassing. We've talked about every fry, but I stand by a good steak. There are steak, I think steak fries are the hardest fry to make, but if you get it right, if you make, oh God, if you make a very hard steak fry, I'm sure. You're hard steak fry.

If you make a very crispy steak fry, okay. Fuck this. You were doing great earlier. What happened? If you make a crispy steak fry, we had one bite of hot chicken, and it's come undone.

I did it. I only had one bite, and I did it, and I was so dreading doing it, which we'll talk about in a second. Yeah. But if you have a crispy steak fry, I think the steak fries at EuroStick are very good.

There is a point. EuroStick has like shockingly, I like the chicken tenders and stuff they have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, in the wings, we talk about the wings being some of the best wings that there are, but... Yeah. The steak fries at you rustic are good.

And if you can nail a steak fry, I think they can be a great fry, but almost everyone makes them poorly. There's a few places I've been thinking about. Well, when I make a fried decision, I'm going based on just like odds. Yeah. Like same with like fruit, you know, like I think certain fruits have a higher like hit ratio. Like I think strawberries have some of the lowest,

have the worst hit ratio. Like every fourth strawberry is actually really good. I would say where is grapes, you know, more, a higher percentage of grapes are good. I agree. Blueberries are grapes are good. I agree. Blueberries are about 50-50, I think. Yeah. Melons is lower.

Pineapple has a higher chance of being good. But lower than grape, grape you're always going to be okay with. Grape's your pretty consistent. You'll sometimes get like a weird like sour one, but you can also pick those out. Yeah, you can see them. You can see them coming out. Yeah.

It's not a surprise like, I look at a strawberry. I don't know how it's going gonna taste until it goes in my mouth. I agree. I agree with that. But a great strawberry? Yeah, that's the thing. If it's hidden, it's all man. Yeah.

It's good stuff. Yeah. So I understand from that perspective, not going to get a surprise. Yeah. And curly fries are fun. Remind, it's a funny name. Three stooages, Esk.

Right. There's a lot of other reasons it's good, but... But... They have some sort of batter on them, right? Like, they're a little battered. Sometimes they're battered in season. I think like a lot of times curly fries, like, shorthand for seasoned fry.

And that happens with waffle fries sometimes too. Yeah. Although you'll find it on season curly fries. So if you go to some Indian restaurants, like, do you guys know Budmash here? Have you been there? Oh, yeah, I've been there. So it's a thing in India, Pakistan,

they call it masala fries. It's fries and they put like this kind of spices seasoning on them. They're fantastic. So if you see masala fries, get those. Have you, there's a new place that's like a fusion sports bar in your food. Have you tried it? Yeah, I've been there a few times. It's fucking great. Yeah, it your food. Have you tried it?

Yeah, I've been there a few times. It's fucking great. Yeah, it is great. You know what it's called? Pigea Palace. Yes, thank you. And it's great. And there's fries with like it's kind of similar thing

where they'll put like, yeah. Sure they do, they do. It's sort of like Italian. It's basically Indian flavors in like Italian vehicles. So it's like a pizza, but with Indian toppings on it. Or it'll be pasta, but instead of the red sauce, it'll be some Indian curry. And it's really, really good. Yeah.

You said Italian vehicle, he's just thinking of Mario's cart now. Mario's cart, is that what you think the game is called? Super Mario's card is that what you think the game is called? Super Mario's card. Are you my dad? I just think of Mario's card. Mario's card that he drives in Mario. Yeah, that's what you meant. That's what I meant.

Let's talk about how it raised. So here's the thing. There are a bunch of spicy levels here. There is country which has no heat. There is mild, which I point out to you, Mitch, and I think you knew this actually has a little bit of heat there. So if you go there expecting like no heat for mild. I'm gonna give you credit.

You were very sweet because I put in my order and he was like, I hope your mom knows that mild has a kick. Yeah. And it was the perfect kick for her. But it was good warning because I did warn her. I was like, it is, it's spicy. Yeah. It's not, it's not like, I wouldn't call it a normal mild.

If you got mild wings at a restaurant, I think it's spicier a spicier level than that. You're expecting, a lot of people are expecting no heat from the mouth. That's not the case here. There's medium, and I think medium is pretty hot. Honestly, medium is a lot of places hot. There's hot which I got for my quarter bird,

and extra hot which I've done the past for my sandwich, and you did for your sandwich today. I got extra hot. And then we also got some howlin' which this is a bridge too far for me. But we got some halin tenders to try. I had halin before, Mitch, you've had a lot, you've had a substantial amount of halin.

Okay, so this is the, I was saying this before, this is the place that kind of put me off spicy food. I ate eight, like three quarters of the hottest, which at the time I don't know if it was halin or halling plus or whatever. Yes, there's now a level about howling plus plus. Me and Maddie Smith, Jack, Allison, I think a couple people were there were eating this, we all had bites of this thing.

And I like, no one wanted it, so I ate about three quarters of it and I, the next like three days I was on the toilet and thought I was gonna die. It was like, it was okay while you were eating. It was, I mean, it was like today where I was like, oh my God, this hot and I was drinking lemonade or whatever. And it was like, oh, fuck, this is crazy.

But I got through a lot of it and I was like, it's still, at that time I thought it tasted good. Today I don't even know if I would consider that to taste good. Right. I know, because whatever, that was like probably five years ago and I like just have not even gone close to back to it.

Except for today, I had a bite of this hollum on today and I might say I hated it maybe. I did not think that, look, I love this place. I think it's really good. I do not have fun eating the howlin'. That is just purely an experience. It's not, it's an experience. It's a bat. It's like a goof, you know an experience. It's not, it's an experience, it's a bat,

it's like a goof, you know. It's not really, I don't think you can really eat it. For me, extra hot, I would say was like, right over the line. Like, next time if I'm eating for fun, I would get hot. I would eat extra hot if it was night and it was the last thing I was doing today, but if I have like, to be active and doing stuff,

big mistake I made when I did hot ones was I had a day of press after it. Oh, that's why I had a big mistake. You make up running down my face. You could easily do it before doughboys, because we're gonna be sweating and looking like shit, even if we're not eating hot chicken. It's true.

It's just our default state. Yeah, I like, last time I had it, I got extra hot, and I got an extra hot sandwich. And I think in the context of a sandwich, like it was, it was like tolerable, but it was, I agree with you, it was like a little bit, I didn't want it this time. Just to back it up a little bit.

Yes, I think hot would be what I would get for sure. Yeah. I know it's not a competition, but he was putting you to shame with. 100%. You were, you were handling that extra hot. Pretty fucking hot. No, you were handling, I was, I was impressed.

They were handling that extra hot sandwich better than I was handling that, the hot quarter bird. Well, there was a tempest within. I was, I maybe have a good poker face because it was, it was quite a bit. I was okay for the first quarter of it, and then at the halfway point, I had to get up and walk around. Did you see I had to look?

There was, there was, we all kind of all together. We all kind of had a moment. We're all three of us were up. And after I took my, after we all tried the Howlin' basically, and you guys had just been eating spicy food already anyways. Yeah, the Howlin' was spiky.

Yeah. It felt like a newspaper movie, whenever it was just like walking around, like trying to figure out what to do. How do we break the story? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, spotlight, doe boys.

Yeah. Yeah. I break the story on the doe boys, taking them down. So, okay, so like that said, I think you really just have to, it's a place you can put yourself into the danger zone if you are like, I can handle it.

Don't come into how long raise with an ego if you haven't had it. Please don't. Just go in and be like, you know what, whatever my normal hot level is, I'm gonna go a notch or two down. And just sort of like get a baseline for how intense this heat is,

cause it is really hot. And I think I probably, I did like my hot quarter bird. It was very tasty, but I think I probably would have liked a medium better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely will go down one or even two, because sometimes I'm like, I love spicy food, but I'm, you know, someone asked me, they're like, why? I don't know.

Yeah. I don't, because it's not. I get it. At its base level, it's not like a feeling of pleasure. No. Like right now I'm light headed and I feel hot. Like my torso is hot inside. I don't know why, but I do love it.

I love it too. It's a similar story. It doesn't release in Dorfins or something? Is that a part of it? It's never made sense to me either because it's that sort of thing. I just feel like I am, I was saying after I took that bite of one piece of hollow, which was this big, that I'm like, I'm so worried about tomorrow or the next two days. If it's going to feel like I'm bleeding in my butt.

Yeah. That's, I mean, I don't want to be gross, but that's what I'm afraid. That's like, when I, when I, Is that what happened last time? Did you bleed in your butt? I didn't bleed in my butt, but it felt like I felt like my insides were melting. And it was, it was fucking horrible. Well, my, so speaking of, my, my family, you know, we're sort of like, no, we were known as like the spicy eaters out of all. Oh, my mom's food was very spicy.

And my mom would eat very, very spicy food. When she would eat, she would have a bite of food and she had these like tiny little green chilies that are super spicy. And she'd take a bite of food, bite of that. And then she had an ulcer, and now she can eat spicy food at all. Oh my God. And so there is a real, I mean, the acid,

it's not good for you. Yeah, yeah. You know, look, we reviewed Dave's. Dave's and- How'd you guys like Dave's? I like Dave's, I think Dave's, too. Yeah, and Dave's. But Dave doesn't touch the heat of how, right?

Well, that's what I was going to say though, when we reviewed Dave's. Oh yeah, you burnt your butt hole. Yeah, I like, I had the most intense thing from Dave's and it destroyed my hole. And I ended up having my hole looked at by a doctor. I was like apologizing to a doctor. I like the gesture of life. No, he kind of...

What a show. It was James Cameron. He was like that. Yeah, we got to get coverage here. You're gonna move here. He really used your perspective on my whole. Yeah, it was like, no, I had to, and he was like, okay, yeah, yeah, you know, and I had to like get some, you know, I really got a replacement hole from someone.

I get a new hole. I get a hole from a from a from a from a foodie on Victor. Wait, what happened? Do you really to the doctor because I did yeah I was in such pain and it like I had a whole heart. Yeah, my whole was like that's really he ran into the commercial Reminding is asking am I whole my whole and running back and forth. Yeah Yeah, there was a bunch of other people from Dave's all I mean it was like a not it was not like a you know, it was a non-prescription solution But it was a kind of a just reason point as I thought I think I told Nally's like I think it was not like a you know, it was a non prescription solution but it was a kind of thing I just reached a point and I was like I think I told Nellie's like

I think I just got to go to urgent care and I'm so uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like have a seat there like that's okay. How how many days after the days did you go? This was like the next day. So when you were were eating it, was it unbearably hot? It was really hot, like it was an intense heat, but it was a magic. No, this is way hotter. And that's why it was like a little bit, you know.

You put milk on your whole, is that true or not? Yeah, you said it's not prescription and milk is in prescription. Well, was it buddy? Just sitting in a milk bath like a pre-cog in my murder report. Yeah, like Cleopatra and pre-cog. Murder. No, it's a, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, heat this intense. And I do think this place is really good, but yeah, just be forewarned.

The other thing I want to talk about is the banana pudding, bitch, because I think that was really good. I like, I think it's a great side that they have, or I'm sorry, dessert that they have here. Your mom had some commentary on this. My mom said it was too granular. Too granular. Yeah, yeah.

Was it, what does that mean? Because my critique of it is the opposite. Which is taking his phone out. Um, granular means, you know what I mean? It means a lot of things. But I just contain ing grains or grain-like textures. Yeah, yeah. He is resembling or consisting of small grains or particles.

Characters by a high level of granularity. Yeah. Uh. Uh. She, she, she, she liked her, she liked smooth pudding. She was saying she said smooth pudding way too many times. That kind of shaped out. R&B band.

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Yeah, we talked about them now putting a little bit, but did you have a comment you want to add? Yeah, please. I feel it was missing texture, missing texture. Yeah, I like, you know, I like when the nila wayfers or whatever and they're aren't fully like melty. I like a little like contrasting textures, like ideally a banana pudding with like to me. I like a fresh banana pudding because then the cookies are kind of a little bit crispy and I like that because pudding is still putting me.

I'm with you. I, it's a, I'm very in the middle where I don't want them too soft. I don't want them like I don't want them for the hard. But you want to feel them in your mouth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was all. This was all. I'm a fucking idiot. I'm as dumb as our listeners. Bad. My mom and sister are here too. It's distracting. They came in. They, we talked about them.

They came to the fucking door. And she, yeah, she thought I was too, she thought I was too granular, which maybe is a part of it being kind of big-sog. It maybe it needed more texture. That's how I feel. But I also, I'm like a big texture fan and deserves. Like give me a bunch of different, you know.

Yeah, thanks. That's a, that of different, you know. Yeah, thanks. That's a, you know, we talked about it, but Ben and Jerry, I forget which one is which, but one of the two of them has a nozmia. He has no set of smell. We couldn't go. Killed by the tiger. Sorry. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So Ben and Jerry has a nozzmia. And he can't smell, so he has a very muted sense of taste.

And so like he... Probably the one I got killed by the tiger. Good smell of comin'. So he had a, so like that's why there's so many mixins and Ben and Jerry's flavors is because it's like he's response so much more to texture. Oh yeah. But anyway, yes, texture is absolutely key and dessert.

That's a fair point. I think I told the story before, but I took mushrooms with Harris at one point, which was like whatever, back in the day. And which mushrooms can be just a fun experience, or whatever. It's obviously weird because of how we passed away, and everything like that.

But we took some mushrooms and we went back to his house and he's like, I want to put on a fish concert. And he put on a dead love fish. He loved fish. He really loved fish. He's like, I'm going to put on a fish concert. He put on a fish concert and he was like, we were watching it. It was crazy.

And I was like, I was like, do like Ben and Jerry come out at some point. And he got all excited. And he fast forwarded the video. And at one like Ben and Jerry come out at some point and he got all excited. And he fast forwarded the video. And at one point Ben and Jerry went, oh no. And they sing a part of a song in the concert. So Ben and Jerry did come out. And it was great. It was great.

I mean, he was so, and I, it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen. They sing a verse during one of the fish. It's very, those concerts are weird. I don ever seen. Amazing. They sing a verse during one of the fish. Those concerts are weird. I don't know. He loved them. I can't remember if you told the story of the pop book for it, but yeah, it is amazing. Yeah, I probably did.

Um, the, uh, the, okay. So, uh, so here's how this will work. Well, each go around. We'll give a closing argument, if you will, on this chain, howlin' raise. Uh, and then we will end that by giving a fork score from zero to five forks. So, uh, final argument, your fork score, Kumail, your guest will begin with you. I mean, you know, fried chicken sandwiches are among my favorite things.

Chicken strips for me is a top five food. I said this earlier and you know, I don't even judge a place by its fries because I'm so, I'm genuinely, generally very disappointed. I thought their fries were great. It was a nice bonus. I thought the banana pudding, which is one of my, you know, I love the banana pudding.

The flavor was good. Texture was lacking. But I think the sandwich is kind of, you know, unimpeachable. You and I, I am, I am, P, oh no, I can't do it. Oh god. So I'm gonna give it four out of five, four. Four, four.

It's a very good score. Good score. All right, smooth, man. I don't think I'm going to look up on an impeachable quickly, but... OK. It's... It means good.

I'm looking at the mushroom kingdom wiki right now. That's not because I was looking at Mario's card earlier. And then you told a story about mushrooms. Dude. The Mario's card. This show sometimes as best is like a Harold. I used to. Life is a Harold. Life is a Harold. We're in the third beat of the podcast, if you will.

Well, it's ending. Yeah. I think it paid that well from Harold. I'll tell you that much. I look, I really love this place. It did put me off spicy food for, for maybe for life. That was like a change. And I told you when I did the one chip challenge,

that was like another time I was like, this isn't fun hot. It's not fun heat the way that I, when I was younger and I was eating hot peppers. And like you were saying, just peppers keep, it's that crazy thing of pepper, peppers keep getting hotter and they keep developing new peppers. They do. I think the newest one is Carolina Reaper is the newest one. They just came up before that

was scorpion before that was ghost peppers. That's it. I can't, I can't handle those. I can't, I can't hang with those. And I'm a mild boy now. I like that's it. That's, and I'm hang with those. And I'm a mild boy now, wags, that's it. And I'm fine with that. And I think when you get the mild sandwich at Hollenrays, it is one of the best Nashville hot chicken sandwiches that there is. My mom and sister both gave it five forks. Wow.

And you gotta be fibbing me wags. I think I'm a third, five forker. Wow. Five forks. I think I'm a third, five, four, four. Wow. Five, five, four. I went all the way. My only detraction for, I think the sides are good. We didn't talk about like the potato salad is good. I think you're right that the slaw is more

just on the sandwich, and it doesn't really work as a side, but they offer it as a side. Right. To me, it's like if you're gonna get the slaw, if you want more slaw on your sandwich, use it that way, but I don't really think it works as much as a side. We had the same experience at Do Right Donuts in Chicago, which also does chicken sandwiches,

and they had a side of the slaw. And yeah, just absent the context of being on the sandwich, it just had nothing to it. Yeah, I think the pickles are great. You don't like pickles, but the pickles on the sandwich and on the side, I think they work because they're pickles, you can add more to your sandwich. The potato salad to me right now

is the only side that really works. I did not have, wasn't there, there was a third side, I think they work because they're pickles. You can add more to your sandwich. The potato salad to me right now is the only side that really works. I did not have, wasn't there, there was a third side, right, or no? Potato salad. Was there collard greens? We didn't get the collard greens. We ordered them, they didn't come. Okay.

But I don't know if I've ever tried them. They're gonna add mac and cheese, but to me, the potato salad is like the, in the fries, I guess, so the only two sides that kind of work. It's good, it's really good, it's really, really good. I was gonna maybe deduct points for the heat level when it's like, it's like, inedible to me, it's not fun,

but just know that going in and they do warn you, they do tell you like, it's tough. They really do warn you. It's all over though. Yeah. Yeah. Having stood in a line for this place and waited like the duration you would for like a Disneyland ride,

you have like the expectations at that point of like you kind of are queued to be like this better be good, this better live up to the height. And my experience with Hal and Ray's is that it absolutely does. Like I would not get the end of the line and be like, like, well that was one of the fucking I wait in two hours for.

I was like, oh wow, this is great. I get why people are cute up here. We went to Mitch, we reviewed Haddie Bees when we were in Nashville. Now, Haddie Bees is not the place that invented Nashville hot chicken. It is like their chain version of a Nashville hot chicken place.

But I think Halen Rae's is strictly better than Haddie Bees. And Haddie Bees is in Nashville. This is an LA interpretation of a Nashville hot chicken place. But I think howlin' raised is strictly better than haddie bees. And haddie bees is in Nashville. This is an LA interpretation of a Nashville dish, but I think it's just a better quality chicken they have. The chef was inspired by haddie bees in Nashville hot chicken. Yes, and spent time. And I don't know if it haddie bees specifically, because I honestly don't know how old haddie bees is.

Like, again, haddie bees didn't invent it. And we gotta give him a shout out. He may have been inspired by the Harold, because Wig's, he started a restaurant right on the Franklin strip. This is true. Jesus Christ. Well, I mean, my anecdote isn't 100% true,

but he was inspired by the hair goal, the improv form, because it started, he started a restaurant on the Franklin strip, the same neighborhood as the upright citizen of the brigade theater. But you want to follow. That's where, how long raises? He was a chef at La Pubelle. Oh, that's a strong argument. That has to be the one specific improv form That is fired. She can stand, which, if there could be no other explanation. Train of thought was like a winding,

like a Mario's cart course. Loping like rainbow root. He was on the Franklin strip. He was on the Franklin strip. We've all been on the Franklin strip. It was in Lappable Bell, I didn't know that. He was, he was Waffoob herself. Yeah. on the Franklin Stope. He was in Lappable Bell, I didn't know that. He was. He was a lot for himself. Yeah.

Yeah. So all that said, I think it does a fantastic version of this dish. I think everything is really high quality. I love that they haven't scaled up too much. I love that they really took their time to open the second location to offer delivery. I think it absolutely lives up to the hype.

I think you can. The opposite of like seeing that, I love Dave's hot chicken, but just seeing how Dave's is like now it's nationwide. Big chain, yes. It's a big chain, it's taken a hit, I would say. It's a duck's quality a little bit by, you know, just that's the by necessity.

I think the quality of chicken is so important. I think it's more important than quality of beef in a burger, because you really feel the texture of it. Right. And so bad chicken can really think of meal. And here, the quality of the chicken is so good. It's so good. That's really good.

And for me, for all those reasons, again, you can sabotage yourself. Just be careful if you have an order from here before. But I think just the quality of food is so high and I think they execute what they're trying to do so effectively that I think this is a five fork chain. I'm gonna go with the spoon, man. I'm gonna go with the Mitchell mom and sister.

I think this is five four. You gotta be fibbing me. Now I'm not fibbing you, Mitch. I'm not fibbing you. I feel like an asshole. I'm the, no, you're great. With holding father, we're the only four or four. It's still in the Golden Plate Club,

which is a place of honor. Yeah. I think this is an appropriate place for Helen Reyes to reside. So congratulations, Helen Reyes. Welcome to the Golden Plate Club. Not the platinum plate. I know. Come out ruling that.

Oh my God, that would have been a plate giving it a five. Yeah, but before a golden is still really good. I can't think of, to be fair, many fast food like chains that I would give a five to. I can maybe think of one right now. What's that? Oh, yeah, what is it? Pot belly. Do you guys know pot belly?

Oh, yeah. I know pot belly. Yeah, I know pot belly. Yeah, I know pot belly. That's like, you know, because we weren't, I was in Chicago for many years and we were just there a couple of weeks ago and we ate it and it is exactly the same as it was back then. We haven't done our, we did it with colts, didn't we? Coke, cabana?

I think Coke, cabana, yes. What helped us review pot belly. Mm-hmm. And we could see Losing Chicago. And now there's none left in California or at least in this neck of the woods. Well, there weren't any of her here. There was one that we drove like an hour sadly. That was, yeah, that was like an hour or so.

It was like near Anaheim, was it wise? It was near Anaheim. Yeah. Pop Belly's great. And we did enjoy everything we had there. This, to me, I'll tell you, my mom and sister were both like, make this nationwide.

They want, and I'm like, I don't know if you could do it. I don't know if you could do it with holland raise. And when you scale up. When you scale up, I just, it feels like it couldn't, it won't reach that quiet. I also didn't know if my mom was gonna give a five-fourths because she was very confused by the piece of bread under the... Well, that's a big move.

I mean, in Chicago, if you went to like a fried chicken place, you'd always get white bread and then chicken on top. I would go, used to go to this one called J&J on the South Side. It was fantastic. She was confused by it. She did like it. It just, it decreased soaks into the bread. It's great.

But she was like, but why is it here? She kept saying that over and over again. Michael, the bread, it's great. But she was like, but why is it here? She kept saying that over and over again. Michael, the bread superfluous. Look it up. He's like, it means like very fluid. Golden plate club for Helen Reyes, it's time for a segment. Hey, we've got our version of the one gotta go me, Mitch. I'll give you a selection of four items and we'll each decide which one is out.

It's a single item must be banished, brand edition, aka a single item must be brand-dished. This is courtesy of our associate producer, Amelia Marino. So Emma is going to, I think, put up on the screen of visual versions of each of these. All right, the first category is demand. Very busy man and we will waste your time on the worst way now. Here we go. Here it is. Which of these gotta go? Which of these gotta go?

All right. I know. Goya, Del Monte, green giant and dull. You mean, but the product's not the company, is it right? I think we're talking about, I just have the name of the company listed here. So I think it's just the entire lineup of canned goods from this particular brand.

All right, well, I know what I would do. I gotta say the Goya look like little rabbit turds. So for me, that is the one I would maybe. Those black beans are great though. They are very good, but on the can, they look like turds. I think Del Monte and Green Giant are redundant, and I think Del Monte lacks a mascot who is Zaddy. So I'm gonna say Del Monte get out of here.

Wow, okay. Well, I mean, kind of kick out dull, dulls awesome. So I got a kick. Green giant, which is what I was gonna kick out anyway. Do you think that, oh, you're gonna boot green giant? Yeah. My question is, does he have a David size dick down there?

Is it like a cucumber? It's really gonna be a piece. The size of those cut green beans, right? Yeah. I mean, look at the smile on his face. Although that's a pretty high like leaf out face. It's true. Yeah. Yeah.

You would think it was mocap. All right. Next one. All right. We next one is chips We got lays ruffles zaps and cape on you don't get rid of Cape cod You fuck I'm not gonna get rid of Cape cod though. I do really like all of these But I think I got to get rid of lays because I think if I've got to pick out there Laser ruffles and the other two are so distinct so I say lays Ruffles have ridges, but they're getting the fuck distinct. So I say lays my back. I'm used to your ruffles have ridges, but they're getting the fuck outta here.

I'm there. I'm banishing ruffles. How dare you? I gotta get rid of the zaps. Wow. I love Cape Cod. I think those chips are fantastic. Yes.

It's huge for me, sorry. He's invested. That's her good. I do like zaps. Yeah, but they're. The zaps are, I like zaps a lot. They are specific. Yeah. All right, next one. Yeah, but they've... Zapsalak, I like Zapsalak. They are specific. All right, next one.

Crackers. We got Trisket, Wheat Fins, Club and Ritz. Wow, okay. And the Ritz and Club are, I'm kind of like Ritzkicks Club's ass, right? I think so. I think so. Oh, this is tough. But that Trisket's just such an animal club.

Club's gonna go. Okay. Here's the thing about club. If you got yourself like a classic block of cheese and you're cutting yourself some like lengthwise, you're going down, you're cutting, they fit perfectly onto a club crafter. Right, Ritz, you don't get around cheese. No.

So it's a bad match, okay? But the Ritz are really tasty, like how buttery they are. You can eat Ritz on their own. I would get rid of that. I'm getting rid of the friskette. Cause I think wheat thins is one of the perfect, one of the perfect little snacks.

I like wheat thins quite a bit. Hey, speaking of wheat thins, we brought a Paris Whittles a couple of times. His joke. Yeah. Wheat thins giving wheat thicks. Give me that wheat. Give me that wheat.

So we can't pick out wheat thins. Yeah, wheat thins get a steak. Triskette, I can see Triskette going too. Yeah, Triskette's we think yeah, we think it's gonna stay Triscuit guy. I can see Triscuit going to yeah Triscuit's gone I think I think I get rid of club. I reluctantly. It's tough. There's no you know me like keeps you on your toes here Because we start off with brands and now we've got like multiple nobisco nobisco ones. Yeah, like now we're gonna To specific to a specific crackers. This is tricky. I think clubs got to go all right next one or must be banished next one is cakes.

You've got. Oh. Hostess. Betty Crocker, Pillsbury and Entomans. So again, we're back to brand. This is fucking hard. I love Betty Crocker. I love Entomans.

I think of these hostess, just I think objectively, of the lowest quality, of product. So cinnamon rolls are badass. You know what? I think you may be wanting me over on this argument. I think just the quality of ingredients, whatever it is, mouth feel. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, yeah, I get rid of hostess ho, ho, ho, ho.

Yeah, hostess. Uh, it's, this is so tough. I just harbor me to get rid of the pills, Barry Doeboy. Yes, because we are the Doeboys. Yeah. And he's more successful than us. So we'll feel bitter. I can't get rid of endomans.

All right, I'm, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go host the suit. It breaks my heart. It's maybe the hardest thing I've ever had in you in this podcast. It's a tough one. I guess I reluctantly go hostess as well. It's just, yeah.

But the other stuff is better. I think the other stuff is just a better tier of quality. The only thing that it is nice to have a trashy option. You know what? I might next Entenments. I love Entenments, but honestly, like having the hostess, the thing about the hostess is you can pick up

like an individual one is a snack cake, like at a 7-11. All right, next one. Next one is breakfast cereal. All right, we get Cheerios, Checks, Frosted Flakes, and Life. Well, is either between life and Checks. This is very easy for me. Yeah. I couldn't lose Cheerios because of honey nut Cheerios.

I love honey nut Cheerios. And so I can't get rid of Cheerios. I agree there. I think life get the fuck out of here. I think life goes even though I'm not a serial guy. I have had all of these and yeah. What's your typical breakfast? Well, I, you know, I eat actually actually, I said I'm not a serial guy,

but I have this like protein serial that I eat almost every day, and then there are these protein waffles. I could say the name of the company, Viking waffles. Oh, yeah. They're really good, and then the serial is called Magic Spooned. Oh, yeah, we know Magic Spooned Sponsor. Can't Smoove through Doeboys. Cold Doeboys. Yeah, that it. Hold yeah, we know magic. Magic Spoon through do boys. Code. Do boys. Yeah.

It will them in the right code. All right, we'll them the right code. So life because I check. I do like the texture a little bit. I'm going life to life is gone. You're gonna play the board game life. Yeah, is it? I love it. I think I get rid of that too.

Get rid of life. The board game and the CEO. it I love it. I think I get rid of that too get rid of life the board game and the cereal all right What about the movie life with Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy that you keep it's funny But it's also kind of sad because like right there. They're gonna live for for life All right next one I almost Google that one too, but chocolate okay All right, we got we got Nestle Hershey's Cadbury and Girodelli. This is very easy for me. I'm gonna kick out Hershey's.

I know it. Yeah. But I think Cadbury, like I think this is a, like American, most basic American supermarket candy bars. I just not as good as basic supermarket British candy bars. I just not as good as basic supermarket, British candy bars. Yeah. I think the quality is better. I think they're smoother.

I love crime. So for me, it's Hershey's. I actually don't even, I don't like Hershey's. I will say Hershey's can ride the Hershey's highway out of here. I don't fucking know. Wow. I think that I agree with you. I have not had, you know, not been to the UK, but I've had British chocolates

and I've had Canadian chocolates, which are a kind of UK chocolate. It's just a better quality Hershey's as far. I have a few chocolate drawer at home. Wow. I almost have finished my Cadbury. I've Cadbury whole nut, which is just dairy milk with. Hazel nuts in it, I think.

Hazel nut in chocolate is such a great combination. So. So. Dear Deli is good. I crunches my other one where I'm not so sure about, but I'll go, I'm gonna join you guys. Hershey's go has to take the ride down the Hershey highway. Like why I said, it's gone.

I do like Hershey's cookies and cream. I think that that's a good candy bar. That is a good candy bar. It's gone. All right, next one. Vanished. Condiments. We got no, one. Managed. Condiments. We got, no, okay, so here's the thing.

This, this is a brand thing again. Even though we see one male, one mustard, one, and two catch ups. Don't think about male mustard and ketchup. Just think of them as condiment brands. Helmens, aka best foods. French is hunts and hind. Hunts is out of here. I think hunts is gone now.

Hunts is fucking gone. I think hunts is gone now. Hunts is fucking gone. I think hunts is gone. This is the easiest one. It's a layup. Yeah. I mean, right? Well, because also you can't replace Hellman's slash best foods with any,

I think French's might do a mayo, but honestly, I'm not sure. Hunts needs to fucking go. I will say I've had Heinz mustard, yellow mustard, and that's a pretty good mustard. We should have catchustered in here. We tried a new thing called catchustered. It's good pretty good mustard. We should have catch us stirred in here. We try to do a thing called catch us. That's good.

Someone said the guy who makes catch us stirred said us catch us stirred and we're like, all right, we'll try this fucking thing and we like, fuck this guy. That's real? It's real. It's real.

Mr. Show's get. It was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's real now. Yeah. Mayo stirred. Yeah. Mustard A and A.

Yeah. It's in the closet here if you want to take it. You can have it. Youard day and eight. Yeah. Yeah. It's in the closet here if you want to take it, you can have the bottle. That's okay. All right. Emma, let's do one more. Let's do the next one. I mean, this is riveting as you see.

Yeah. This is good stuff. This is the podcast. Take the butter. I like butter. Here we go. We have landelakes, carry gold, smart balance and organic balance. This is good stuff. This is the podcast. Take the butter. I like butter. Here we go. We got land elakes, carry gold, smart balance,

and for getting your smart balance. Get the smart balance. Get the fuck out of here. It's been having butter. I want your fucking smart ass. Carry gold. It's a high quality butter. Hell yeah.

Carry gold is so good. It got to be fibbing me. Yeah. The smart balance, you got to be fibbing me. Get the fib out of here. All right, smart balance is right gotta be fibbing me. Get the fib outta here. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. All right, smart balances are in the Hershey's highway. That was a, what?

Are we done? I mean, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta ask. Yeah, we gotta ask you a question before I go. That was a single item must be brand-ished. It's just like a restaurant via your feedback. Let's open up to the feedback. And today we have an email from Matt. Matt writes,

years back there was a salsa commercial where the actor was washing out a salsa jar at the sink and instead of dumping out the water, the actor drank the salsa waste directly out of the jar. Ooh, that commercial grossed me out so bad that he didn't eat salsa for several years. Has there ever been a food commercial or that? That this was a real ad sounds insane.

Has there ever been a food commercial or ad that was so bad it disweighted you from buying the product? Ooh. I'm trying to think, I'm going through my mental, and I feel like every time I see any sort of food ad it just makes me want to eat it. Like my brain doesn't quite operate in the way of like,

oh that's disgusting, I only that shit. If I just saw an ad that was just the name of the product and the picture it makes me want to do it. I don't need, like don't even sell it to me, just show it to me. Yeah. Our friend Joel Boyd Mitch was on the podcast and he was in a ranch dressing commercial

where he was like sipping ranch with a straw and like that made me like, I guess it's some ranch dressing with a straw. I made you want it. I don't know, it definitely made me crave the dressing. I think it a thick straw. The doughboys, doughboys. The most bad reads made me not want to sign up

for the doughboys on Patreon. But you know what? There was just an example of this and I can't think of what it is. There was an ad that's like, this makes me hate this product and I don't know what it was. So that's not helpful,

but I know that there was one recently. I remember when I saw, when I was a kid, there was like a special and it was like a, it was like some infotainment, like, edutainment kids thing where it was a guy talking about, like, commercials aren't real. Like, that was basically it.

And like, yeah, Emily loved that show. Okay, yes. It was called, she talked about it all the time. Yeah, I can't remember what the hell it was, but I remember liking the host and I remember like, there was a thing he showed where he had. He was like, here's how they do a serial commercial, and he put the used glue instead of milk. Emily told me about this. She's told me about this. And I did remember finding that revolting,

and being like, I don't want fucking glue in my fucking serial. Well, so some mine is a weird one. Yeah. It really is. So, you know, my name is Camel, which was not a common name even in Karachi, Pakistan, where I grew up. I was the only Camel I'd ever met, and I always liked my name. But when I hit about the sixth grade, there was a new product that came on the market. It was called Camel. It's spelled very differently, C-O-M-M, C-O-M-E-L-L-E, and it was a condensed milk. Their jingle was an order, but it would translate to thick, sweet, creamy milk. Kids started yelling at me for my thick, sweet, creamy milk, starting in the sixth grade and the commercial for it was one of the most sexually

suggestive commercials I've ever seen. And I actually have it. I could play the sound of it. If you want to hear it. Also, by the way, just quickly, Nick, I- I can find it if you want. I know that the Bud Light commercials turned you off of the product Bud Light for a while too. So, Nick really turned his back on Bud Light after that. I have this. How do I send it to? I got it.

You got it? Yep. All right, Emma Braden. So let's watch this and listen to it. And you'll see why it's suggestive and why it ruined my life. But it'll be an order to see you want to understand what they're saying. That's...

Jesus. This woman is really licking this creamy sauce. They're just drizzling it everywhere. Come out, come out, come out. I'm missing you. Wow. You like, put it on her finger and lick that? And it looks. People can't see it at home.

It just just fucking Peter North was off camera. Just doing work. That's your second male porn star. So you did like an era specific reference. You you named like an older. Well, yeah, like a vintage porn stuff. That is good work. Wow. He comes up on the podcast. He could keep going probably for a while. I was everyone called me Messi Marvin as a boy. I was called Messi Marvin because, yeah, because of, uh, because I looked like Messi Marvin, but then also who's Messi Marvin?

Messi Marvin is a kid from a, he's a, a, a commercial colon. I gotta look it up. He, because there was also Mikey, Mikey likes it. So people always used to say to me like, Mikey likes it, which I think was life, maybe life cereal, but Messi Marvin was another, and I looked just like this kid, Messi Marv. Let's see if there's a commercial for it. Yeah, here it is. It's for Hershey's syrup. Wow. It's Peter Billingsley. Peter Billingsley. And I looked like Peter's Peter Billingsley as a boy. I looked just like Messi Marvin. Wow. I may just play in the self of his phone. Yeah, I know. I did the worst version of it.

But I got, I, but I, like everyone was just like, Messi Marvin and they, they just would always call me Messi Marvin. I didn't even really get what it meant. Wow. Yeah, it's just funny when a commercial comes out and it's like, hey, that will like ruin that kids life. Yeah, I know.

My uncle had a very small advertising agency in Karachi and he cast one of my cousins, not even his son, in a butter ad. And I was so jealous of Salman. And there was a huge billboard of him like doing, because in the thing, he would like put butter on his toes, take a bite, and then like do like you know muscles and there's a huge billboard of him like doing muscles right by my house and it upset me so much that's that's fucked yeah that's what I mean he was you know I was friends with that cousin I like that cousin I still do I just saw him recently but don't be

on a billboard I'm gonna try to get a billboard for dope boys with just me above the heck of the rest. Flexing. If you have a question or comment with the world of chain restaurants, you email us at dolewayspodgastagmail.com. We'll leave us a voice mail at 830 godo. That's 830463684 and you can get the dope boys double or weekly bonus episode by joining the golden or platinum play club at patreon.com slash doleboys.

Come here on out, Gianni. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for lending us Goldener Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash doughboys. Come here now, Gianni. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for lending us so much of your time. Thank you for putting yourself into intestinal distress for the sake of content. Do you have, I know it's a weird time to be plugging things. Do you have anything you'd like to direct people towards or or mention right now? I mean, go to the Camel commercial on YouTube.

Yeah, I can't really promote anything. So, you know, go check out Holland Rays in the gold plate club. Yeah, there you go. And support that strike, I guess, is. Yeah. Support the strike. Don't. It's weird. It's hard to support a strike because you can't do things. Yeah. Right. My theory that people get so into strikes is that it allows you to be a rebel while following the rules at the same time. That's just a guy to do it too. He loves it. He's talking to a WGA captain.

I can't go in the first place. I can be out there. Thank you so much for having me here. Thank you, Drew. That'll do it for this episode of Dullboy. See you next time for the Spoon Man, I'm Mitch on Nickwiger. Happy.

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