Doughboys - In-N-Out Burger 4 with Martin Starr

Episode Date: April 16, 2026

Martin Starr (@martinstarr, Sweet Stash Gummies) joins the 'boys to talk theme parks, favorite flavors, and his new candy, Sweet Stash Gummies, before a review of In-N-Out. Plus, a special edition of Snack or Wack.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-12-17-mn-2813-story.htmlhttps://www.today.com/food/why-does-n-out-print-bible-verses-its-cups-wrappers-t164235https://www.pepperdine.edu/newsroom/articles/pss-lynsi-snyder-ellingson-in-n-out-burger-recap-2026.htmhttps://www.maxim.com/maxim-man/owner-n-out-burger-youngest-female-billionaire/https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-appearances/the-gall-of-ghislaine-maxwellSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Want to watch this episode? Check it out on our YouTube channel by going to YouTube.com slash doughboys media. John Denver, JFK Jr. Steve Ranazizi. These celebrities were all famously killed in plane crashes. But back in 1993, another aerial disaster

decapitated the leadership of California's most beloved burger chain, creating a succession crisis at the still family-owned and operated restaurant. On December 15th of that year, the company's president Rich Snyder and vice president Philip West were killed in a small plane crash along with a third passenger and two crew members. According to a Los Angeles Times report days after the incident, the beefy handheld prez and veep, quote, apparently had broken a longstanding rule about not flying together and were both aboard the chartered jet, end quote. It's just like the guys who know the formula in Coca-Cola or whatever the fuck. Snyder, in life a born-again Christian personally responsible for adding Bible verses to the the packaging of the chain's menu items had run the company for two decades since inheriting leadership at just the age of 24. The deeply religious and conservative Snyder family, which is consistently donated to Republican candidates, is an odd fit for the wavy gravy, free-love granola set of California's left coast. Nevertheless, the high quality of its

burgs and shakes and its polarizing fries have made it a beloved Golden State institution across demographic lines. Actor Paul Giamatti even chose to eat it one, following his Golden Globes victory. Today, with locations in California and seven other western states, plus Texas, Tennessee, and soon to be Florida, the chain remains in the Snyder family via Rich's niece Lindsey, who became the world's youngest female billionaire when she took the reins at age 30. That same year, she was profiled in Steak and Shake ruiner Sardar Baglari's jackoff mag Maxim. Later, she'd donate $2 million to a super PAC supporting frequent burger eater Donald Trump.

She's also on marriage number four. How to make sense of all this? As the milkshake cup reads, quote, Proverbs 3-5, trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding. Also remember when Galane Maxwell was photographed outside one, that shit was wild.

Anyway, this week on Doe Boys, we return once again to In-N-Out Burger. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Tiger Weiger along with my co-host. John Carroll Lunch The Spoon Man Mike Mitchell Like John Carroll Lynch

The great character actor Yeah he's great I like that one I have I guess I mean that's too nice To I mean they're not calling me John Carroll Lynch They're calling you John Carroll Lunch

Yeah So I guess it's not that nice Hey Doe Boys fam This roast was inspired by the recent Introduction of the Dodiak to the pod As John Carol Lynch played Arthur Lee Allen In the 2007 David Fincher film

Zodiac But we're not really sure if he is the Zodiac. That's the whole thing. No, but it's ambiguous. They never solved who the Zodiac Killer was, but if you look into it, I think they change his name in the movie, but the circumstantial evidence points so strongly towards

this guy. John Carroll Lynch, I like more as a sweetie in another murderous movie, Fargo. Oh, yeah, he's great in Fargo. He's great and Fargo. He's just a sweet man in Fargo. Great career. Great career. Alternative title, Dodiac directed by David Finchuro. He was in... What?

This movie... As Person wrote that? This one. It's what they said. alternative title Dodiak, directed by David Finchuro. So David Finchuro comes to Finchuro. Got it. All right, you can just do that. Kind of a hat on that. Shout out to my best friend, Miranda, who encouraged me to send in the roast. And we'll be attending the San Jose show with me April 30th.

Excited to see all there. Matt from Central Valley, roast at birdfuck.com. That's right. The dough boys will be out here in Cali, Mitch. We're going to be at Irvine on April 29th and San Jose, April 30th. Tickets. You know who else will be there? Chankton.

Chankton's coming. He's going to be at the San Jose. Not in the show. He's just going to be. hanging out. Yeah. Yeah, he's going to be hanging out. We've had some issues with your Boston friends being part of shows. No, it'd be great. He can hop on TV. The only problem Chandon caused was at the first, very first. Yeah, that was the only problem he caused was at the first time he was there. They're Bostonian guys. They're going to have fun. We know what they're up to.

Mitch, how are your brain and body holding up? We're back in the studio today. We were just in, we're just on the road again. We're in Orlando and Tampa. Had a lovely time. Yes. Yeah. Mush. My brain's mush. I feel like shit physically. Oh, I'm sorry. I mean, you don't? I was on the road for a month. I guess I do feel bad. And then to top it all off, my flight back was canceled. I got on the, uh, I, uh, I, uh, had some old tweets.

Yeah, yeah, the flight had some old tweets that got dug up and, uh, they deplained, they deplained me. You got deplained. A tattoo. I, I deplaneed, yeah. That's a good joke. Tattoo from fantasy. The fantasy island, not in federal.

50 years old. But yeah, I... Yeah, before any of our time, let alone our producers. But everybody gets that reference. Everyone gets the reference. We love the reference. Did you ever work with John Carroll Lynch?

No, but John Carroll lunch. We found out in a way, I mean... You were working and I was flopping around. We found out earlier today, that you were a guest on the talk. What's going on? The talk show, what's going on? And this is over a decade ago at UCB Theater. Yeah, we both flopped around. Yeah, it was very, I mean, that was the whole, the whole show was to, uh, yeah. I didn't know what I was doing. Why, you were at plenty of those shows. Yeah, yeah, great show. And you guys worked together as well.

That's right. We were, we were remembering where I was on, uh, I was a writer on NTSF, SDSUV, Paul Shear's show that was. A very fun show. A lot of fun that was. I was also on that show. I was also on that show. So, wait, what was, when were you on it? No, I'm just trying to remember what your role was. No, no, no, no, I know you were on. The Comic-com bomb episode. Oh, that's what I was. I was a guy in a mask. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is that, for a long time they did, when I was acting, they had to wear a mask.

Right. Yeah, yeah, I was. Hey, well, you've broken free from that phase. I've gotten out of there. We're both a part of the Juddiverse. You and I are both the members of the Juddiverse. The Juddiverse? I don't think that's all one universe.

You've heard of the Juddiverse. Don't leave him hanging. Like the M-CU, there's a judder verse. Yeah, but love is not like the same canon is. I would have said we all live, we both live in Appetown. Oh, boy, that's good.

But I don't know, that's just me. I like, we both lived in Apatown. Damn it. I shouldn't have said it out loud. That's my fault. Of course, you are on the great freaks of geeks and, yeah. Play-Drop, what did you do, so I guess? Oh, Jesus, relax.

It's fine. Also, I'm not starting drugs. This is a... You've been, you're well into drugs. I'm well in drugs. Drug addicts put the Band-Aid on when they're done. I'm just saying, drug addicts notoriously using top balls of bandies. I'm done with heroin.

Grab me that band-aid. I got blood. That's why I'm not wearing a hat either. I'm very open about this is that I get PRP, so they take your blood out, and then they stab your head with a needle. They spin down your blood to plasma. and then they stab your head of the needle. You're a full head of hair guy that's you never had to worry about this that much. I'm doing okay.

You said this recently and I wonder why you say that because there's not a bald spot to be seen. No, you can notice some thinning definitely in the back of my head. Really? My hair line is like gone from here to here. It's creeped up a little bit. It's in retreat. If you take propitia, it stops that sort of thing. No, I got the, I got the, I got the propecia finasteride cocktail wherever the fuck.

I've been using that. What is that? You have a cocktail? It's like you take the two drugs together. Like one's like an oral medication and one's a topical thing. God. And use them in concert. It supposedly halts hair loss.

Seems to have done okay. You're reclaiming some territory. I'm getting a little bit back. Yeah. But I did it today. They took some blood. They spun it down. They stabbed my head.

And then I had a... How many times? It's a lot of needles into the brain. They have like this weird vibrator thing that they put on your head. I know. Okay. They have this weird vibrator thing. that now you're interested.

They have this weird vibrator thing that they put on your head and then they're needling your head with the shot as they're like kind of vibrating up there. And then also my mom says that I'm going to have a big red Irish nose because of my rosacea. So the other thing I do is I get a, I get

shot. They have like a little needle. So I get like a shocked with a needle. But isn't that oftentimes a byproduct of heavy drinking? You're not a drinker. No, but I think it's sometimes, there's like broken blood vessels in my nose and my cheeks. I have viral. It's just bad genes from being, uh, from, hey, they're pretty.

Your jeans are fine. No, they're, they, they, they, I'm, I'm, at one point, my, my, my ancestry dot com was, was, was just one full circle of Irish. He's seen this before. 100% Irish. 100% Irish. And that is, I don't think it's good. I don't think it's good for, for any reason.

They were like, you can't work at headgum anymore. There is an, there's an Irish need out of apply sign. And when you walk in a headgum, I've ever been sick? All the time. Oh, whoops. Yeah. Well, all right. Is there a theory here?

Yeah, I mean, I was going to go down a tangent, but that ended very quickly. Mitch, I'd say, is frequently sick. I'd say you're a sick man. Yeah, but that's not fair because I feel like in the last year it's done really well. You have been. And then when we went to Orlando and things went sideways. In the last few weeks, we've been on the road. I haven't been home in a month.

I haven't been home in a month. This is true. This is true. So I've been home for like 48 hours or something. And I haven't seen Wally and I'm on my cats. Uh, there they are. I haven't seen them in, uh, in, in, in, in, in, in a month. I've been, we've been out on the road. And then the day I was leaving, I had stomach pain. And I went to the doctor and took blood just like this. He took blood. You make it sound like it's in

quotes. Well, because people don't believe that I'm sick a lot of the time. I think Gabris questions. It doesn't help that you call it stomach pain. My stomach was like across here. I, I, I, I was in like, extreme pain. Right. For, for, for a while. And I was like, what the fuck is going on. I'm on a GLP1. We're open about all this stuff. So sometimes you get stomach paper, but this is like a different feeling. I was like, I was hurting. And I went to the doctor, in the two days I was home in, in March. I went to the doctor. He took blood. And he's like, you're fine. He's like, I'll get you a CT scan. If your inflammatory markers are high, the day I was going to Austin, um, I went and I was, I was leaving that night. I got the call

for my doctor. And he was like, your inflammatory numbers are high. You have to get a CT scan. And I was going out of town for like two weeks at that point. We were together at that point. We were. We were here. It was the Ben Rogers episode and everyone. And we were talking about it and I was like, what's going? What is going to happen?

My dad had pancreatic. I'm unraveling here. My dad had pancreatic cancer. So of course I'm like, is this some, is it fucking can't? And also, whatever, just take me. You know, I'm fine. Right. Wait, we swung all the way around to this.

Yeah, I'm fine. You're doing great. I've done enough on this planet. No, we're having a good year. Is this a suicide episode? Ha! What the hell did I walk out? I've done enough.

I'm saying like, God, is this, what is it? Like, what is it now? You've got to stick around for your family, for Wally and Irma, for, you know, the podcast. My daughters. My daughters. I meant, Amelia. Don't kill yourself because of the podcast. Hey, man.

Even though the podcast is slowly killing you. The podcast is slowly killing me. I mean, that we do, we probably should change the format at some point. But I can tell you, what today's rest of the podcast is. restaurant. It was coming back, coming back to L.A., and I was very happy to come to back, back to L.A., my first meal back being what we're reviewing today. Yes. Was nice, which is in an out burger. I don't have to fucking play coy.

Everyone read the, they read the fucking episode description. They heard the intro. Emma, hit them with a drop. This is where it's embarrassed. This is the most embarrassing. Here it comes. Fucking shit. I'm going to shit my pants. Hey, lying is fun. You say whatever you want. I feel better when I have a good bowel movement, good bowel movement, good bowel movement. I'm not comfortable talking about my own shitting.

It's kind of disgusting. The lie detector determined that was a lie. Hey, lying is fun. Well, Mori at the end. Solid ending. Solid ending. Solid ending. The title of that Trump was turd fibbing, which made me laugh.

Tert fibbing. That's good. I mean, they already look at it in a bad way, but will people look back in the future on those Mori episodes is like, this is like, like archaic and evil and... I don't know. No? A paternity test for content?

Yeah, yeah. It seems bad. I feel like worst stuff is happening now. Yeah. So... Should we start doing it on the podcast? And we can take a paternity test. All right.

Of ourselves? To see if our dad... To see if our dad... Are we going to dig up my dad's bones to do paternity tests? Like, what do we have to do to... How am I going to get a paternity test for my dad? I don't know. All right.

Let's all do it. We'll all do it. We'll all do it. We don't want to exclude you guys either. You guys are in, too. I'll take a paternity. Yeah, you should. It would be funny to just present your dad with a paternity test and be like, I am your daughter.

He's like, no. Why are you doing this? Yeah, how did you get my DNA? And Jimmy is your daughter. Jimmy is my daughter. The best dogder, dogger. I was trying to make some sort of whatever. Pretty good.

Hi, I'm sending this short 21 second drop on Good Friday, Count Dropula. That's it. Thanks, Count Dropula. I think it would be a good, a good dropper. Drops at birdfuck.com and a great guest today, first time on the show from Tulsa King and Party Down. Also, one of the people behind sweet stash gummies available at sweetstash. Martin stars here. Hi, Martin.

Oh, hey. I don't want to bury the lead here. Let's talk sweet stash gummies. Like, I just, I was so, we usually have people on the show. It's not necessarily food related. We'll talk food. But you actually have a food product that I feel like comes from your genuine passion for gummies. I love can.

You love candy. You love all can. You're a candy freak? Oh, yeah. Are you more towards the gummy side, or are you more towards chocolatey, uh, chocolatey treats? I like it all. My wife loves chocolate more. Mm-hmm.

She needs a little chocolate treat at the end of, uh, dinner when we get home. Sure. So we have plenty of chocolate around the house, but I lean more towards gummy or sour or I like belts. I like, I like it all, which I think it's. At some point, we'll probably get into doing our own sour belts. Love that. Because there's a lot of, I mean, we just started this because we love candy.

And there's so much trash in so much of what we eat. And the more I pay attention to what I'm putting in my body, the less I want to eat most of the stuff that's on a candy shelf in the store. And so we tried to make something that you could feel less shitty about and still get. And to be honest, I think we made a product. that like the flavors are better than the average candy in the U.S. and the texture we're very particular about. So we just kind of made our favorite candy with good ingredients. Can I ask you what was your like top gummy before you?

Growing up. Yeah, growing up. I was, I loved Harry Bowes. I was always a Harry Bowie guy. Harbow's easy, easy to find in the airport nowadays, like, especially when you're traveling as much as you guys are. That's an easy find. Black Forest Gummy Bears were probably my favorite growing.

up. Okay, yeah. Those were in every 7-Eleven. And I didn't realize that they were still around, but they are still around. And Albany's makes a good gummy bear, but they're softer, but their flavors are really good. And their ingredients are a little better. They do an organic gummy bear.

But still, a lot of these companies are using corn syrup and stuff. Right. Sure, yeah. We're trying to eliminate all that. So I'm on, this is, and I'm not going to fly under any false flags here. I'm on the record, Mitch is a gummy guy. I'm a bit of a gummy skeptic. I was about to get into this.

I'm not... Trust me. It makes me as mad as it makes you right now. That's like saying you're a dog skeptic. In what world? I mean more in terms of like, I'm usually coming to a gummy, and there have been gummies I liked, including we just had one in Orlando, which I really enjoyed. How high did you get from it? I will say, we assume to set upish from the name Sweet Stash, like, oh, these are weed

gummies, but they're not. They're just, they're candy. We just make good candy. I love it. You have your head in the, in the cloud. You're, you're high right now, aren't you? Yes. Never. You're thinking, everything is weed gummies. I think naturally that's the assumption, especially

when, you know, there's a celebrity behind a new product. A lot of times it's some sort of weed thing. And then just, again, the name's sweet stash kind of does evoke getting high a little bit. But yeah, no, I'm a guinea. To a fucking stoner like you, apparently. Sounds like you're on drugs right now.

Emma, when you heard sweet stash gummies, you thought that it was this was a weed thing, right? Well, I mean, a stash sounds like a weed thing, but I also do think a lot of people have a candy stash. Like, a secret candy for, like, my mom was the kind of mom that always had, like, jelly beans in the glove box in her car so she could snack on them. So that also makes sense me, like a little candy stash. Stash has a different meaning,

you fucking freak. My first thought of stash is my weed stash. And that, yes. Which does have some gummies in it. Fair enough. Yeah, we met more like candy stash. I don't like wee gummies at all, so I like just regular gummies. So this makes me very happy. I'm thrilled that I get to try some of these. Oh, you don't get to try any. That's just to look at.

I'm just going to do some close-ups in the cameras and then I'm taking all three of those bags with me. I'm kidding. Do you want to open one now? Yes, I love to. do it. Are you, what, what is, when you were talking to this regular gummies, what were your, what are your favorite flavors? Because these, this is the sweet, uh, Martin is flinging them over the producer's desk. No, that was too close to your face.

No, my hand-eye coordination is garbage. I felt like you made no effort to catch that. He's like, waved at it. I'll hit you in the show. She was also drinking at the time and that was not a fair. I knew I wasn't going to catch it even if I tried. She also might be high. She's the one who maybe is high, possum.

I haven't smoked me yet today. I love the look at these already They're little musical notes So these are the sweet stash jams And this is like a variety pack We look so we got straw I mean you know the flavors But it's strawberry green grape is it

Yeah Blue raspberry orange Prickly pear That's fun And the yellow guy is white peach Okay so I am a I am a gummy enthusiast And I'm gonna tell you right off the bat

These are great And I'm not just blowing smoke What I love about these is You're saying Black Forest, we were talking about that. And I was saying that I like Haribault. Yeah, yeah. And this, to me, is almost the exact meeting between the two because it has a nice chew to it, but also is soft.

Yeah. And I, and the first one, I had the blue flavor, whatever that was, was great. Blue Raspberry. Blue Raspberry. We call it Blue Jasbury, but it's the same similar profile, which at its core is, like, pineapple is the core of blue raspberry? That's my favorite Harry Bow Gummy. Same.

These are fantastic. They don't stick to my teeth in a way that some gummies do, which I hate. I love that this does not do that. So, that's really good. Again, I'm coming to the gummy from a place of skepticism. Jesus Christ. I'm on the record saying gummy ain't yummy. What?

These are good. I really like these. I really responding to these. Because part of my issue with gummies, they're so processed, right? And you're looking at this one looking at the ingredients is like organic tapioca syrup, cane sugar, you know? And I know being certified organic is like its own like kind of arduous process, but it's like, this is like, these are like real ingredients.

We're non-GMO. We're not like non-GMO certified yet, but we are non-GMO and we've sourced as many organic ingredients as we can at this price point because we're, we don't want it to be, we don't want to be like a fancy candy brand like sugar fina or something, which I do like what they do. But it is like you're paying $10 to $15 for a little thing of candy and that's not we're trying to be acceptable. to anybody who wants it. And this should be accessible. Like, you should be able to get something that doesn't have known carcinogens in it, like, when you want to have a little sweet snack. They're very snackable. I really like the green grape.

But they're, those are, those are very, very yummy. And it's also, like, it's just, you know, gummy obviously is a candy, but it feels like kind of to repeat myself here, but it kind of feels like real food. You know what I mean? Which is like. I wouldn't, like, eat it only for dinner. Yeah, sure, sure. I'm not here to tell you to do that. But I definitely, I've got a sweet tooth and I like to go down and devour a bag.

So it's you and your friends. Blue Jasbury, my favorite flavors. But all the flavor is great. They're all good. So it's you and your friends, as in D, the Potash twins, is that correct? Is that a co-lab? So how did you, like, I mean, I guess I'm just kind of curious. Like, how do you make a gummy?

Like, how is gummy made? We started, one of our partners was the head of innovation at, uh, Ferreira. Okay. Yeah. So when she started her own smaller company and kind of broke out on her own, we reached out to her to try to see if she wanted to get involved in what we were doing. And she basically just helped us figure out the formula. Like we told her exactly what we wanted. And we started kind of farming out our descriptions of the flavors, which we wrote like wine snobbish paragraphs for each flavor. And there were, there are like numerous. flavor houses in this in the country and we kind of reached out to some of the smaller ones that we thought might be into kind of formulating something that fit our description and we surprisingly found it like works like like you can create a beginning middle and end to a candy just most candies are lazy and they just kind of do a very simple uh very non dynamic like version of a flavor.

And we really wanted to like, if you sit with it, it'll give you different flavors through the process of just one of those pieces. I don't know. It sounds like so nerdy. I can't tell whether it's a good or a bad thing that I could talk about candy this much. Please, we're 500 episodes deep on us. You're on the right show.

You're on the right. You're right in your element. I also going to say there's a thing of, I mean, Nick, so you support. RFK and everything. Yeah, of course, yeah. Big RFK fan, actually. That's how I ended up listening to you guys to begin with. But you were saying, you're seeing now a lot of, you're seeing gay, like when we were in the, in Florida, you saw like the, like more natural gator, like 75% less sugar. There is, there is a lot of, Gatorade. Okay, geez, because you just, there's Florida gator. I was like, what are you talking about? And the first time you did, you just said gay. So it was like, Like, you really, like, worked up to the word Gatorade.

You long... That last time I said it without a need, but you couldn't tell the difference. Gator ad? Gator ad. There's a lot of companies that are doing kind of, like, Doritos does, like, naked flavor now or whatever. And my fear is always... NKD. I've tried them.

What do you think? Bad? I like them. Really? I got to try them. My thought... We need to do, like, a roundup of a lot of these things. Yeah, I had the cool.

I had the cool ranch varietal, the NKDs, and I thought they were pretty good. I mean, like, they tasted just like the other ones. I mean, it's great. And I love that they're just, it's, it also goes to show how easy it is for them to take out the shit ingredients. It's like, oh, you could have done this a while ago. That's nice. Why did it take, like, the country telling you that it doesn't want to get cancer from your product by someone in office? Like, I don't know.

Like, it just shouldn't have taken this long for them to go, oh, okay. you know what, maybe we'll make a version for those who are looking at the label. Right. Yeah, that's, we've, we've talked about this before where it's like, look, we don't, they're, they're a bad man, obviously, but then also like, the good that comes. I thought you guys were friends. Yeah, we're, we're a friend. Oh, no, he's a bad guy. He's right.

He's correct. But like, there are, there are some good things that can come from like pushing towards more natural ingredients and things like that, of course. But here's my, my fear is always. Here we go. Well, it tastes bad. And these don't taste bad. No, it's great. It tastes better.

It tastes good. Yeah. But then that's the other thing, too, is like, when a big corporation is trying to do it, they're still, like, they're, they're cutting corners and they're not doing. Probably, yeah. They're not doing it as cheap as possible. Yeah, exactly. But it's, like, genuinely, I've never had anything in, like, one of my favorite sweet treats is chocolate-covered strawberry. Yeah.

The strawberry is the heart of that. Like, chocolate's great and all. But, like, just fruit in general, we've been trying to mimic that in candy since candy began, since it wasn't just sugar for energy when you, like, left the house. And even then, it was, like, it had a different purpose. Like, the coca leaf, which became cocaine eventually, was, like, this takes, all right? Take it easy. Take it easy.

was just to like help sustain people before they had their meal later in the day. So you take a few coca leaves and chew on them and like go to work. Yeah. And like, you know, sugar has its history and its value. And then we've kind of shifted it into this massive, you know, money making, you know, profit, profit margin. The corn syrup goop, which I do have a Coke zero next week. As opposed to the Gwyneth Goop. It's totally different.

What is corn syrup? syrup goop. I think you're just talking about the I mean like what sugar has become of like the liquid I understand

you. Cocaine. Yeah. We're actually we're here to talk about cocaine. Cocaine is not a goop. If we can just take

a minute. Not yet. Not yet. It goops in your you know. That's true. It does goop up there. We know.

Yeah. I'm going to have this rosacea free nose snoring that stuff up. It's going to look good. You won't have a nose and you keep doing that goop. How does the dais feel

about the Do you have any favorites from the gummy stash? I love these. I don't think there's a flavor I don't like. I love, my favorite is the white peach. Oh, yeah, that one's good. I also really like the prickly pear. I love a prickly pear gummy.

It's a good flavor. You don't see them too often. No, they're a big thing in, like, Phoenix and Sedona. I found some prickly pear gommies last time we were out there, and I ate them immediately all in a day. It looks so good. The cocktail that you and Gabris got at Bahama Breeze? Wasn't that like, didn't that have like a prickly pear?

Like a cactus something. I'll look it up, but yeah, it was like a prickly cactus, like shot that went in, that you put in the drink after. It was like a frozen drink with a side shot, like a floater. Cactus cooler. The first time I had it was out out here, out west. I got burned out on Cactus Cooler. You like me grew up in Southern California, but I had Cactus Cooler every day as a kid. I loved it.

Like I had it every single day. And then he reached a certain point. It was like, I feel like I've just had enough for a lifetime. Enough for a lifetime. Yeah, I just kind of like, I think I just became too accustomed to it. Or maybe I was taking it for granted. Squirt was my favorite. I'm also I think the first time I ever had squirt was West Coast.

And you know where I think about getting both of them a lot is a, is cactus tacharia. Speaking of cactus. Speaking of cactus. One of the best burrito spots and I don't know how it's held up in the last few years. We're actually doing a beer, prickly pear beer with my sister-in-law. She works at a brewery in Austin called St. Elmo. And we're doing a prickly pear like sweet stash. Oh, hell, yeah.

collab with their brewery. I love a sweet, I like a sweeter beverage. I'm a cider guy, so I like a beer that has like, we're doing a Pilsner, so it'll have, like, instead of what you might, you might use an orange or something, it'll have a natural prickly pear, five to it already. I love that. How fun is that? What's your favorite, as far as artificial flavors?

I mean, I know that these are natural as well, but if you had to pick a favorite artificial flavor, where do you go? Probably grape. Grape. Like a grape jolly rancher. Grape candy is good. I'm a strawberry. I love, I like artificial strawberry maybe more than straw.

I love strawberry flavored stuff. I like actual, like, I mean, I still think the best, like a perfectly ripe peach is the perfect fruit. Mm-hmm. And they're hard to find, and I think they're often picked premature, so you end up getting a peach that's, like, grainy or not, doesn't have the right texture. But, like, that's easily my favorite. I was going to say also that. Wait, what are you pointing to me? He wants to know your answer to the question, but I interrupted that.

No, no, no. Because I have something important to say. That's not true. But I was going to say, do you guys, when you have an apple, do you remember eating Apple Jolly Rangers or Apple candy as a kid? Did it make you cough? Yeah. Hmm.

Or like a green apple, uh, uh, high chew. Like if you, if you chew it, it'll be like there's a certain thing that happens where it like chokes you. Yeah. Yeah. What is that. Do you know? I don't know.

I think it's the chemical. No. No, that's always what I guess. It's like inhale it. It feels like you inhaled something. but you didn't. Oh, I know what you're talking about? You know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, yeah. You're talking about, like, a green high. It's always, you're right, it is always like the green apple flavor, though. It's too intense. Jolly Ranchers would always make me cough, and I was like, I can't eat these anymore. It's not a good feeling.

No. I like, I'm glad you knew because I... No, yeah, it happens to me with the green apple high juice. Yeah. I was pointing at him because he's a stone fruit king. He loves a... They do like a stone fruit. Don't eat the pits.

Yeah. I would never. Good. Yeah. Learned the hard way. They'll kill you. They will. They actually will.

They're poisonous. If you were wondering, yes, I've heard this. This is wild. Don't, like, they are, they're poisonous. Inside, you eat the seed in the middle. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah.

I mean, not, I think you gotta eat a bunch of them. Yeah. But, like, it's bad. You, so you, I think, I thought what you were going to ask is, we'll do it on the Patreon. I thought you're going to ask. In and out versus stone fruit pins.

Who's going to win today? What my favorite candy flavor is? And harking back to Jolly Ranchers, I was a watermelon jolly rancher guy. That was what I coveted. Those are really good. Yeah, yummy. I'm eating more of these, by the way. Sorry.

Watermelon gold bears are pretty damn pasty. Yeah. Yeah. I just, we were just in Orlando. I did a gummy roundup. I bought a bunch of different gummies. What'd you do? What's your go-to?

I bought, all in all, I think I bought, 10 bags of gummies. different bags of gummies. They were all from the theme parks. I went to Disney, and I got myself. I love how you put a gummy in your mouth as you were telling this anecdote. I walked the walk, my man. Anisophonics are freaking out right now. Motherfucker, I walk the walk.

I'm eating gummies and I'm talking about it. Are we doing asthma? Should we just sit and chew for a minute and let the people get what they want? The people, part of our audience will love that, and part of our audience hates it more than anything. My wife loves asthma, but she doesn't love. What's it called? Well, the mouth sounds, like the chewing noise. Misophonia is like the, is like when you hate it, when it bothers you.

I'm a specific name for just like the chewing and the food. Oh, interesting. Is it called? Oh, it's going to bug me until you Google it. I'm an ASMR. I'm an ASMR guy. It works on me. Does it work on you or no?

Do you get to like the, the bumps and everything? I get the bumps. It works on me. Wow. But hearing chewing sounds doesn't. That doesn't do anything. That doesn't bother me. It starts with a C.H.

Starts with a C.H. Someone biting their fork, I said this before. Chewing? It's chewing. It's chewing. Damn it. Thank you. Oh, chewing.

You win this round. Called something. Do you remember when gummies, like, entered your life? Do you remember, like, your first, like, gummies where you're like, like, like, wow, this is, this is something I love. Me? Yeah. When I was a kid, I had to steal gummy bears. Wow.

Because my parents stopped giving me allowance money. All I spent it on was candy. Wow. They were like, no more allowance for you. So I started stealing gummy bears, and I got caught. Gummy bears for me. Also, do you remember there was a time, like you were saying, Harry Bose, you can find everywhere now. But Harry Bose were kind of a harder thing to find at one point.

It wasn't like they were available in every 7-Eleven. They were like a little bit more rare back in the day. And I fell in love with Harry Bose. I still like Harry Bowes quite a bit. Um, I, but very early on for me, I loved, I loved gummy bears. Wags. Pineapple, the clear gummy bears, red and white, my favorite, uh, my, my, my, my favorites back in the day. I'm realizing didn't spend too much time, um, dividing the form factor of these sweet stash gummies.

They're a little musical notes. Mm-hmm. That's a lot of fun. They're, the, the, the, the, the, the, potash twins are very talented horn players. The, they play, uh, trumpet and trombone, and they are really, really, phenomenally talented. I'll bring my tender sax record.

I have a scob band. I'm sorry. Is that how that works? Yeah. Wow. It's going to show up with my own instrument. Learn something new every day. Here we go.

And you also played the bassoon. I did play the bassoon, which you have finally learned. The bassoon. Yes. That was a double-read instrument. I was going to make a bassooner or later joke, but then I realized I probably shouldn't.

You know what? This is the perfect place to do it. Yeah, it would have crushed. I played the saxophone in fifth grade and the music teacher told me to quit. Yeah. Mr. Gulenelli, I believe his name was. Did you listen or were you like, fuck you, Mr. Mousinelli.

What's his name? Mr. Goulinelli, I believe. Mr. Goulinnelly, I'm right. Fuck you, Mr. Goulinnelly. I'm going to persevere. I know I played my last note for him and I handed the sax over. I gave up. I just feels like so contrary to being an educator is telling a kid that he should quit.

And Quincy, you know, you got to tell him to grab him. it up sometimes. I think, I think, you know, I think, I think, I think,

I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I think, I'm gonna tell about my Orlando

gummy, yeah, sure. Gummy, this, this is good. Uh, so, so,

I went to Disney, I got three different bags of, of, of gumys. There is Daisy, Daisy Duck, Donald's, fiancee,

maybe, what is their relationship status, girlfriend, wife, I want to, Donald's love interest, at least.

She, she has some butterfly gummies. Then Minnie Mouse. I thought that Goofy always had the guy. I thought it was Goofy's Gummies, but he has sugar-free gommies, and I didn't buy those. I bought... He is goofy. I mean, he... And also, this to me is like, the thing I'm talking about of, like, this is Disney's sugar-free gummies.

I'm like, will these just make me sick? I don't know what these... Right, and that's a thing. A hundred percent, yes. Makes you shit your brains out. Yes. What were those gummies, the gummies that if you ate them, they were like the sugar-free gumms? Was it Albany's sugar-free?

There was some... Sorry, Albanese, if I'm wrong. It was some big brand. There was a company. It was a big brand. Yes. And they were like, we're doing sugar-free now. And all the reviews were like, I'm shitting.

Like, this is causing me to shit. The Amazon reviews. It was Haribo. It was Haribos. Sorry, Al-Banis. It was Haribos. It was Haribos. It was an extreme laxative effect.

Yeah. Wow. There's like reviews on Amazon that were like, these are okay, but they made me shit, like, crazy. I literally bought them to be laxatives. Like, people were buying them for the, like, lack of the effect. I should get myself some of these

Harrybosher movies. I'm thinking. Do they stuff? Just to shit your brain's out? Just to shit my, I mean, it seems like you. Are you constipated? I am a lot of the time.

Are you? I'm all over the place. I wonder if that's the stomach cramps. Because we might have just solved a big problem. Maybe part of it. I got to eat more Harry bows. Just the sugar-free ones, yeah. It's either not coming enough or it's going too much.

It's one or the other. I think part of the issue, Mitch, is that you could take a cue from our guest and have a big jug of water you're drinking. I don't think you're well hydrated. I don't drink enough water. That is true. And thank you for the reminder as well.

You're going to open your cherry Coke zero. That's the opposite hydrated. Yeah, you're not doing your jug. So I got Daisy's butterfly. She has butterfly gummies. Minnie has the character gummies. And then Stitch, the blue alien stitch, he's got like a bunch of critters.

He's got like little centipede gummies. I thought those are going to be the best, my least favorite of the bunch. Wow. The daisies, butterflies, pretty good, but then Minnie's character, Disney character gummies were the best. But we also went to Universal, and we got a bunch of different gummies at Universal. We did the Mario Land Gummies, which was, like, Luigi Stars, peach, like, flowers, toad mushrooms and Mario Stars. All bad. They were, like, they were all bad.

That's a bummer. You know what they were like, do you know how there's, like, some, like, marshmallow Gummy's, you know what I mean? They're to kind of have that, like, marshmallow consistency. Like, I like the eggs, and those are marshmallow on one side. Well, the majority of it is marshmallow gummy, and then the yolk is kind of like a peach-flavored gummy. Yeah, it has that, like, outside consistency of, like, marshmallow-y. Yeah.

And just not, none of the Nintendo Land ones were good, but Wags, we, on your recommendation, because your friend wrote a roundup of, uh... Matt Singer, our friend. Past guest, Matt Singer. I know, but you talk to him, you talk to him more than I do. But Matt wrote... He's definitely not your friend after he hears this. Matt, you're my friend, too. Matt, you were my friend, and you wrote a great rundown of...

We went to Epic Universe. Yes. We rode Star... What is it? Star-chacers? Star-dust racers. Yeah. Almost put me in a coma.

The people in this room, it almost took down two people in this room. Yeah. Yeah, I had to sit down and put my head between my knees for a little bit. You were hurting pretty bad. I was struggling. And then the lady We went on We were with Samoa Joe, this wrestler

And he took us on a like a VIP tour Your friend. My friend. And my friend too, our friend too. I call him like this wrestler. He's my friend. Sorry, Joe, I love you. Sweet too.

Samoa Joe is... Samoa Joe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Great dude. Great guy. And he took us on a VIP tour and we, and the lady, the person who was a tour guide was like,

oh, you know, like if you do these rides all day. It's like being in a boxing match. Oh, that makes so much sense. I felt like I was going to die at one point. A neurologist had told our guide previously, by the way, just really feeling like king shit of fuck mountain when you're walking around a big crowny asshole is a part of the... Is that a good

thing? I can't, I genuinely can't tell. It's a little bit of like... Are you, your king shit of fuck mountain? It's kind of like you got us... Because the like fuck mountain seems like the place you'd want to be king of. Right. But what are you, what do you want to be king fuck of fuck mountain? I didn't, look, I was just...

Dong of Fuck Mountain. Yes, there we know. But King Shit. Well, I threw King Shit in there. It seems like King Shit took over Fuck Mountain. But then if you are the shit, that's a good thing. Right. But I don't know the context. I don't know the context either.

I need to know. What I sort of, the way We keep interrupting him, we're never going to find out. The way it was sort of crafting this well-thought-out name. We'll let him answer. Is, like, I was like, because you feel a little

shitty. You feel a little like when you're when you're in a VIP tour, and you're just like, well, we're walking to the front of the line. But you were loving that part of it. Well, that was the thing. At first, I'm like, oh, this is embarrassing. And then Joe's like, oh, yeah, just drink their tears. And I was like, oh, yeah, it's a great way to lean into it. Well, Joe can play a heel. I mean, Joe is a heel a lot of the time. He went full wrestling heel. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's a good way to go. That's more fun. I was telling people that I served.

When they were questioning me, I was like, I sir, I did a tour. And I was just lying to to make them feel better. I served in the charmed. I served for Tomorrow War, that is true. So I thought you meant a jury. I didn't realize you were talking about the military. I'll tell you what, I was wearing that Donkey Kong shirt that day. I was serving cunt. And that's a good thing.

I think I know this one. Was I not? Oh, you were. You were serving cunt. You were absolutely serving cunt. Thank you. I got our two lady employees to say yes. Can I say I mention

You look great in that You look a million bucks In that Donkey Kong print shirt I did like How well do we know each other I saw this? I was like Mitch is gonna love this I brought over to you

And you did you said And I said Oh it's expensive You said put it on Put it on the dough voice card I didn't say that You gave me a nice gift You've got a card?

We do have a business card We do have a company card We do have a company card yeah You got right here Yeah You can get it Why you had that so quick Don't look

Don't put it up to the camera Yeah what's the number What's the expiration date? We should have a card with MasterCard. We should have the Do Boys card. Like a branded thing? Yeah, yeah, it gets you Do Bois. Like the Disney card?

Yeah, you get Doe Bucks. You can redeem it at Kinship Goods. If you spend enough on it, you get Patreon. You get access to Patreon. Yeah, why not? We pay you guys in Doe Box. We're not going to do that. Yeah, my landlord keeps telling me I can't pay with those.

The dough bucks? The dough bucks. We'll talk to them. Yeah. Star, what is it called? Star Dust. Star Dust. Star Dast racers.

A great coaster, I will say. You have to go through a metal detector to get on. Yeah, what was that? It's because if it's so, it goes like 63 miles an hour or something like that, the roller coaster. And if there is something harder metal in your pockets are on you that falls off, it can literally kill someone on the ground because it would whips it around. Or on the roller coaster because they intertwine. It's two separate tracks.

that intertwine. And now I'm remembering, I was seated, I was seated with Amelia, and you were, you were worried that someone's earrings were going to fly off and kill you. And then we noticed, we were like, well, Emma's got earrings. And then you became, it became a whole, like, what would you do if that happened? I almost took my earrings out. Yeah. And then Wiger was like, what would you do if Emma's earring came off and blinded you? Would you forgive her? And what was your answer? She said, no. I think I'm still thinking about it. She hasn't decided. What I remember, what I remember is, what I remember is, okay. What I remember is that you said yes

and then Emma said you said you would never forgive yourself. No, I would feel like that's the best answer in both parts. I'd probably never agree with you again. If you blinded me, you know I'd be holding that over you forever. I'm not going to blind you. That makes it sound like you had a question. Like there was a question mark on that one. I'm not convinced you're not going to. Also, I've figured out what chewing ASMR is. Oh.

It's called muckbang. Muckbang. Muckbang. Muckbang videos. Yes, yes, yeah. A lot of fun. I was going to like, what's the sound of chewing called? And they were like, chomping?

And I was like, oh, that can't be it. That's a Japanese thing, right? Muckbang is. I believe it's Korean in origin. Oh, Korean. I think the word is, but I'm not sure. Wait. We can cut that out so that you don't seem totally racist.

Don't worry. Eventually I will anyways. I love Star I love the Star Fuck Star Dast Star Ders Are you just oriented at all By how many times he's saying Star

Because that's part of your name I hadn't thought about it too You said that yet Wow But now how do you feel You feel? But Muckbang Now that throws me

I also felt pretty sick after We did it because we did it twice We did it two times in a row You bailed on the second I was glad Because after the first one I was like I almost got on a second

time is like, I think I might actually puke. And then Amelia was like, don't do it. And I was like, yeah, I'm glad I bailed. I'm glad I took the cowards way. No, I think it was smart because afterward I was like, I maybe should have done what you did because I felt that weird brain swimming feeling for like two or three hours. I googled the roller coaster afterwards just to see what people thought of it. And there was a news article about a person who had died on that.

Oh my God. Really? For real? Yeah. There's a body count from Stardust Racers? That's not what body count means. Yeah, how many people have fucked that? Girl with poster.

Body count does mean a death hole? It does? Yeah, you mean death old. I think it used to mean that until it meant something different. Yeah. It means fucking now. I know it means, I know, but I'm using a classic sentence.

You live on fuck, you're the king shit of fuck mountain. You don't know what body count means? Yeah. I'm not doing a great job. I'm not doing a great job. If we met an assassin and he was like, you know, my body count is 70, we'd assume it's from killing people. Yes, 100.

Maybe we would still think, like, the assassin's pretty sexy and, I don't know. I mean, he's probably got a much higher body count on the other side. Yeah, yeah, good point. Because he's going in and out of towns all the time. You know, always in a new place, got to meet new people, create a new identity. But maybe he just wants love. This guy might just want love. He might just want love.

And you know what's... On the next episode of the dope. You're going to get this guy hooked up with a lady assassin. You... Or another male assassin. I don't know. know what he prefers. I'm sorry. Marchant, where...

Now I am spiraling. Where are you on... Where are you on coasters? Where are you on theme parks? I mean, certainly a place where you could find some candy. So we're not talking about coasters on tables. I love coasters. I love the roller coasters. I haven't done it in a while. I

spend a fair amount of time in Atlanta and there's a six flags out there. Oh, wow. And I... I mean, I guess it's pretty cool. It doesn't look like... I don't know. Maybe they're all just kind of a little janky nowadays because they're old but it didn't make me want to go and hang out there but i love the concept yeah a place like universal you're going to get like

except i will say this is the coaster where i felt like the most like i could slip on when you go on where'd you go to islands of adventure we went to an epic universe this the new then this is the newest park and the coaster is crazy but didn't you feel like you could come out of that it felt like you could maybe come out of the fucking harness i think That's intentional. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I bet you're very safe if it's brand new.

Yeah. But they, that, I mean, part of the fun is like, am I going to die? Yeah. Yeah. And especially with your suicide rant earlier, I mean, that's exactly what you're looking for. I mean, I was, I was loving it. And I probably should have just done the one, two. But when you have the VIP tour, you can't, you can't turn down.

The tracks are slightly different, which is what our tour guard was saying. There's a yellow track and a green track. And they intertwine with each other, but they're not identical. so there's slightly different drops on each. So I think it's very completionist to do both sides. We've got to just do a separate episode about this. We got a lot of talking about it. All right. Well, anyways, I bought candy.

We went to Super Mario World, which is, we're going to do a separate episode, but it does look very cool. Yes, it looks cool. Especially for stoners like you. Islands of Adventure is also there, right? Island Adventure, yes. That is very much like a, like a thrill ride park, I believe. Have you been to Islands of Adventure? Yeah.

I've never been. I've got great memories there. Oh, wow. They have a Hulk ride that, like, it starts, or at least they used to. When I was there, it was fairly new. I think I just, I was a year before graduating from high school. And I went with a bunch of the kids who were graduating. And we, I don't, I think I'd just done freaks and geeks.

And so I somehow, like, there was a person from, like, a local paper who was going to, like, write about me as having lived in Florida for a year. which I did. With my dad, we moved there when I was 15. And so there were like a local paper was going to like take care of us and they like took us to the front of the line before there was like an option to buy a VIP pass. And so everyone thought I was cool for once in my life. And so like our little group, we like got to go to the front of the line and this woman like came around and was asking me questions about growing up in Florida. And the Hulk ride I remember in particular because it would start off kind of slow. and then it would just like click into place

and then it would launch you like you were at the Hulk jumping off the ground into the air. I love that. They were all themed really well where you like got why it was called whatever the superhero was. Am I misremembering it because you obviously

been in the Spider-Man movies, but were you in the Incredible Hulk back in the day? I was in the Edward Norton. Edward Norton. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very briefly. Wow. I like the other Hulk movies. I love the Angley Hulk and then I like the Edward Norton one.

All right. Yeah, those are fun. He was, I learned how to scuba dive with him and his partner. I don't know if they ever got married, but Shauna Robertson, who's one of my pals for a long time. She produced, knocked up and was one of Judd's producers for a long time. And we went scuba diving together. And then I got to work on the Hulk because of that. Wow.

That rules. How about that? It was very, very cool. I have a question for you. Playing, when you were playing a freak, freaks and geeks, like you're, I'm saying you're playing, this is, this, we talked about this, we've talked about this. I've never heard someone say it like that. Also, I just want to be clear, I wasn't like going scuba diving so that I could, you know,

make a business content. I just went scuba diving with my friends. And then I think because I hung out with Ed and he is. such a sweet guy. He was like, uh, you want to play a pizza guy in the Hulk now? That's great.

Anyway, uh, freaks and geeks. Uh, like play, when you, when you have to, we've talked about this with,

like, Jaliel White, you have to play a childhood nerd, but I think also your character is very lovable in that show. But was that, was that a hard thing as like a young person to deal with that? And I feel like, we've talked about like,

Jaliel White trying to like, almost posture to be like, I'm actually cool when I play basketball. He's like, talked about that a lot. And at the end of the day, you're like, I love Steve Urkel. Like, like, I think it's such a great character, and he's such a lovable guy.

But was, was there any, was there any part of you that's like, hey, I'm playing a character, this is not really who I am, you know what I'm saying? Like when you, especially at that age, too, or. I mean, I feel lucky that I didn't, I mean, I'm sure from someone else's perspective, I got typecast, but I, I see a, I look at what I've gotten to do in my career so far. and I've had the fortune of doing a wide variety of different characters and worked with a wide variety of talented people. So I'm very fortunate to be here, to be here sitting talking to you guys. That's a great, that is a great, that's a great position.

I think there's something sad about the fact that he feels defensive. And I'm sure I've gone through my version of my fair share of positive and negative feelings. about moments in my career or life in general, but there's something kind of sad that he, that in particular he feels like, because of how big Steve Urkel was and because of how specifically nerdy, maybe that character was. Sure, yeah.

How defined by his glasses and the suspenders. Suspenders and like the whole look that he has to kind of push back so hard. But I also am not in his shoes, so I can only imagine how, 100% yeah. How difficult. that ride must be if you're kind of feel like people only see you in one light.

And you're like, wait a second, I can do other shit. Yeah, especially like the biggest thing in the world at some point. But I mean, they do it even with podcasts when people come up and call me a big fat, dumb fuck. And then, you know, whatever say, well, you fuck my wife or whatever. Hey. Who the fuck says that to you? You would be surprised. Our, uh, uh, it's, it's a, because there, I think there would be.

develops this parisocial bond where it feels like a familiar voice in your head and it's just like, oh, it's like I'm seeing my friend, but that's not necessarily always how we're, we're seeing this interaction. How many wives have you fucked? So far, zero. Wait, the fuck. The wife body count is zero? Yeah, I haven't fucked any wives yet.

What are you doing? And you're those? You haven't killed any either? I haven't killed anybody. I haven't killed a person. I haven't slept with a single wife. Wow. It sucks.

Yeah. It's good for nothing podcasts. I thought something good would come from this. But the people, the husbands still call you a big dumb fat fuck. Yes. Well, that's not cool. They do think that they can come up and insult both of us, basically. But anyways,

back to the universal gummy rundown. All the Super Mario Gummary War gummies were bad. But Matt Singer was right, in one of the cool parks there, the monster park. It had monster gummies. The dark universe. The dark universe. There's Dracula. Dracula.

there's Dracula teeth and those were the worst of the bunch and then there was then there was a... Are they single teeth? Because that sounds creepy. They're fangs. They're fangs. They're the full. They're the full... They're like fangs. Like wax teeth but gums. Yes, but gums. And then there was

Frankenstein's bride's lips. Which let me tell you. They looked good and they tasted damn good. And they were there was a little... Did you fuck Frankenstein's wife's lips? They were... Mouth lips.

What's your body count with Frankenstein's wife's lips? I only've had them for a couple days. But if you're talking about eating them, pretty high. But they're half like, they're kind of like half gummy and half of the marshmallowy gummy. They're like they're doing both. And then the, I think the Frankenstein's brain was the other, that Matt Singer said that he loved. Yes, right. And those are damn good.

So if you're in Universal, those are probably my top of the, of the batch. But yeah, if you're in Universal right now listening to this, go get Frankenstein's wife's lips and try not to fuck them. Our listeners will not be successful at that. But, I mean, get some sweet stash gummies instead. That prickly pear is doing it right. That's a yummy, yummy flavor. I want to say that I took off my Band-Aid just for people who notice. I took it off.

It's over here now. I know it's gross. So now we can see where you put the hair one. One little dot right there. They have a... Would you believe this? They have a hard time finding my veins sometimes.

They can't... Interesting. They can't find the vein. Is this where someone's supposed to call you... A big, dumb, fat fuck? Yeah. I mean, the doctors, luckily, don't do that. But, uh...

But, uh, it is a... I think I have thicker... I have a little bit thicker skin over here. You're a meaty man. I'm a meaty man. Yeah. I think my veins are pretty good. Yeah, I can't tell.

They can't tell. I got the long... Yeah. I think I'm decently vaney. I think I've got some vascularity. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You got a lot of options.

Yeah. I'm the same Mitch. They can never find mine. I actually usually tell them to go in through my hand because it's easier. Do they do that? Yeah. They listen to you? Sometimes they try to push against it because they're like, oh, it always takes longer if you do it there.

And I'm like, I would rather sit here an extra 20 minutes than you, like, dig around in my arm. So sometimes they'll do it. It took them, uh, it took them over 45 minutes to find my vein one time. And it's the only time I almost passed out from, uh, from, uh, from, um, from, getting a needle. They were in there for a good 45 minutes. That's intense. I have a really I'm sorry. Never mind. You can't please. You'll always cut it out if you don't

do it. No I just feel bad because there's mixed company. Oh, I don't get. There's like a very vainy part of the male anatomy. It's true. That, you know, I wonder if anyone's ever been like, you know, I can tell you where you'll be

you'll have no problem finding a vein. Especially if I'm thinking about some Frankenstein lips. It's a, Martin, it's very, very sweet and wholesome of you to worry about Emma and Amelia who consistently say things that disgust even me. They're fucking disgusting. They're grosses people in the room. They're grosser than me and Nick. So.

All right. Well, now we know. I did, I did read the permanent midnight Jerry Stahl's book, which got adapted into a movie with Ben Stiller. And he, in it, he talks about being in rehab with a guy, like a hair, an open. user who was a doctor, an MD, so as to not have any track mark show, he did, he shoot up in his penis. He shot himself in the penis. I heard of people do it between the toes, but I've never wild. Yeah, that's, that's also where I've, I just, it'd be weird to have a, the sort of, like, the needle there with the IV, you know, that whole thing, on your foot. I can't mess up my feet,

my money makers. Your wicky feet would be just obliterated. Let's say some people don't have a ton of real estate in one of those areas. Oh, you got small feet? I wear big shoes, but I have very tiny feet. It's 14 socks, he puts on every morning before he... Martin, I was here earlier. I know if you

interacted with Marty at all, the headgum CEO, but he told us something very specific of you about you. First off, he's... He tells him, is his favorite show. Oh, really? But he also said he weirdly worked with you He's remembering the first branded spot he produced for college humor. For Ruffles, he worked on with you back in the early 2010s.

I don't know if you have any memory of doing a Ruffles College Humor branded spot. I remember being at the, oh, wait, I'd have to watch it. Yeah. What was it? Now I'm curious. I know. I obviously can't relate to this from an acting standpoint, but from podcasting, like doing so many episodes, we do reach points where we forgot about episodes entirely.

Like, what was that? What do we say on that? We had that guy on, you know what I mean? Yeah, I wonder if Ruffles must have paid the tab, but I bet it was more of like a short film kind of silly. Right. Because I don't remember doing like a Ruffles commercial. Yeah, I don't think it was a straight commercial.

I was at a funny or dying roughly that same era. We do the same sort of garbage. It would just be like some sort of, oh, not that yours was necessarily garbage. But, I mean, like, I, I mean, okay. No, but like Mitch, you were. in some of those, right? It would be like a Kia spot and it would be like, you know,

you're... Hardest $50 of my life. Yeah, you're making no money and you're like... 14 hour days and like whatever. This is the sort of thing of like you're like dressing up as like Santa or whatever. Yeah, or wearing a diaper in a kitty pool. At least you're not recognizable then. Well...

Uh-oh. Waring a diaper in a kitty pool sounds more... Was that before I was dressed at Santa? Is that how you found me? What happened? I, yeah, you would, you would make $50 for, yeah, a day of, of, when you were one of the funnier-or-die-all-stars, say. But if, oh, you're talking about the shorts more than commercials. Yeah, that's fair. It was a bad time for, I mean, like, I think we, as actors, we didn't know what was happening at that point until, I mean, we knew we were getting paid poorly.

And then. You were just starting your career. I was just starting my career. So you were happy, like, hey, like. Just working. You were happy to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it was, you know, like none of that stuff was sag or whatever. It was a tricky time of like...

I mean, streaming is its own difficult thing. And I think now, I mean, we could go down the black hole of where our business is right now, but it's... Let me tell you. It is tough times for the majority of people in our business. I feel very fortunate to be working on something and something as successful as Tulsa King. But, yeah, it's tough. It's a tough business right now. I feel terrible. Like, I'm so glad I'm not 19 years old trying to, or 16 year old me growing up in L.A. trying to, like, find my, you know, place in this business because you just couldn't do it right now. It's bad. We know our intern, Ryan, is a headgum intern Ryan is a listener. So, and he's also in film school.

So it would be great when he hears this later. He's just like, oh, he's making his own weird shit. He's doing great. He's doing well. Yeah, no. I just, I just, it was a guest written off a streaming show that we discussed in the last episode. But we can talk about that. You just got written off?

I believe so. That's my, that's my guess. Or edit it out. I think, I think written, written off. You were on, you were a big part of this show, twisted metal on Peacock for two seasons. And then they decided you're not returning for season three. And they, it's just, it's a bummer. It's sad.

It is a tough time right now. And I think the, the. powers that be are taking advantage as best they can. Capitalism be capitalisming. Yep. Thankfully, that never happens in podcasting. Oh, wait, but you were talking about earlier. Oh, never mind.

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You were born in Santa Monica, a city I lived in for some time. Do you have any, were there any Santa Monica specific eats of your, you know, like this could be places that still exist, places that closed? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, my favorite place, which is still one of my top favorite places to go to in LA, I just live further from it when I'm in L.A. and my wife and I moved to Austin I should preface with so I'm spending more time there but when I do come back to L.A.

Chacha chicken is easily one of the best like Caribbean fusion food so good Caribbean Mexican fusion so good I don't even know of this it's still around Chachat Chicken's staying in there It's so good

Yeah yeah there I mean I think that's a hard I mean at some point the trouble becomes who owns the building. Like when you're that, when you're able to stay around that long. Yeah. Because, you know, it's, the margins are slim in the restaurant business

if you're not making a chain restaurant. It seems like the hardest fucking thing in the world to do. And they make such good food. And it's like, it's, you can just, you can feel the love there. Like,

I went there so much that I became friends with, uh, Ricky. Ricardo Prado, who his family has owned the place for a long time, and he's kind of taken over managing that restaurant. But his dad opened a few restaurants when he was in his prime. And I think the other one, cha, cha, cha, cha is closed down now. Oh, okay. So I knew cha, cha, cha.

So they're the same man started both, the same restaurant tour started both and kind of, I think, in the 80s or 90s, like a while back. and he was like a big, like he was like a Hollywood chef. He was like a guy to Michael Jackson came there. And like he was, he was a rock star. And, and, uh, but chajat chicken is easily one of the best,

one of my favorite restaurants, especially like for, for everyone, like price wise, it's affordable and it's, it's great food. I just found out today that I always feel like somebody's watching.

me, I didn't realize it was Michael Jackson and that song came on the radio today. I was like, that sounds like Michael Jackson. I looked it up and I was like, I feel so dumb. I've heard this song for 100 years. I didn't realize he's singing the chorus. It's not Michael Jackson's song. No, no. You had to look it up. It wasn't like on your car

screen or on your phone. It didn't say Michael Jackson? It was, this is, I've had two cars in my life, both Ultima's. I've never, I've never had like an electronic interface ever. And so I was just listening to the radio. The radio. Yeah. Even on the radio, I feel like it's got like a scrolling.

Michael Jackson. 2000, it's a 2010 ultima. I've never, I've never, I'm in the, I'm on the market for, I'm going to go big. I'm talking, man. Okay, all right. BMW, baby. Only season three of twisted metal. Who's in, who's in, who's in?

No, I just, I just put that together today. I want to give a shout out to El Serrape and other. great Mexican restaurant in, uh, in, uh, waymouth landing. Okay. That's closed down. And like you're saying, and you know what? I want to talk about this on the podcast before. What's it called else?

El Serrape. It was a great. It was a doesn't matter anymore because I can't go there. It's, it's, it's, it's so sad. It was so, so, so good. I loved it. Oh, so many. I mean, it just seems like the hardest business in the world, harder than Hollywood, weirdly.

It's one of the, uh, another dying business. But, uh, the arc light. The arc, uh, whoever, whoever, whoever becomes mayor or now, whoever it is, like, they need to... Did it close down again? No, but the owners of it are just... I think they're basically just holding it until it collapses.

And like, that's... Because of the OG location in Hollywood with a Cinerama dome. Which used to be the arc light, as you know, the arc light, which I loved the arc light, but the dome is there, and the group that owns it, they just have never reopened it, and I think that they're basically... But the dome's open.

The dome is not open. The dome... When did that happen? It was open six years ago. It has been... closed for six years. No way. And so you can't, you can't, it's historical landmark.

It's a registered landmark. Close in 2020. Pandemic close? Pandemic close. Never, has never reopened. The group that owns it is holding on to it. And they're like basically trying to like make it like a lot of people do this where when they own kind of historical landmarks, they just, it's basically, it just collapses

upon itself and then they can build whatever they want. I think that that's what they're trying to do is like, they can't touch it if not for some sort of natural thing. So they just don't like wait out. the beams falling apart? I think that's kind of what their plan is. The walls crumbling? It's such a bummer when it's more,

they decide it's more profitable to keep something vacant and closed to, you know, just like squat on something. But that's what happened. But a historical landmark in L.A., which brings up to, which brings us to another historical landmark in L.A. Wags.

Wow, Mitch. Well played. We all know where you're going here. We're talking, of course, about In and Outperger, which was founded in Baldwin Park, California back in 1948. the first drive-thru restaurant in California. And, you know, it's a big progenitor of that trend.

It's still owned by the Snyder family. So Lindsey Snyder, who's the granddaughter of the founders, became the youngest female billionaire when she took over at age 30 back in 2013. And she's still in charge. Zach Snyder? Unrelated. It's a different Snyder. Zach Snyder is not in the Snyder family.

I like the Snyderverse. Should we talk about just Zach Snyder for a bit? We could, yeah. I'll say this. Did you ever work with him? No. I honestly don't know who we're talking about. I think that he did a great Dawn of the Dead remake.

I think that he did a great job with it. Oh, that Zach Snyder. Mitch was bringing up an unrelated director, which is probably your confusion. I haven't worked with Zach Snyder, but I do like his work. Yeah. Very talented. We like Snyder. This is the issue, is that when there's a guy that you like and then a bunch of

shitty people like them. There's a lot of like alt people, all right people who like them or whatever. But that's not Zach Snyder's fault. Happen with my favorite president. All these assholes are liking him. I'm sorry. So yeah. Biden?

Biden at handles ice cream parlor today. Breaking Chews a five fork chain here on the doughboys podcast with Jay Leno. Yeah. What a two-sum. Biden and Leno. Do you know what? That ticket would have won. I think, I think those two could.

bring back late night. I heard they're cousins. I made that up. This I learned from our buddies on brand, John and Marissa, their podcast, Animal Style. The reason it's called Animal Style is because the original owners nicknamed the Greaser regulars who hung out in the parking lot, the animals. So this is the version for them, yeah. And we're going to be talking Muppets soon.

Animal. Animal. Hello. I wonder if there's any connection there, too. There might be. Yeah, there might be a connection. Look, Zach Snyder and Animal from Muppets could all be involved. We're going to find out.

If Zach Snyder isn't making the new Muppets movie and In-N-Out doesn't have a reference, I'm going to be pissed. On my, this plays Martin, and I know I imagine as someone who also grew up in Southern California, it's a beloved for you. But this is on my personal Mount Rushmore of fast food chains. I mean, a place I get consistent, yes, I get consistently outside of the purview of the podcast. I'll just go to In-N-Out Burger, not just for content. I love it so much. What's on there, your coy little bitch? Tell us the rest.

What's that? I said, tell us the rest, you coy little bitch. I think I might put, it's tough. I love these pet names. You guys. Do people come up and they're like, hey, coy little bitch? I do get that a lot. I mean, they will.

Now they will. Now that you said that, you just, you willed it into, they will do it. We'll make coy little bitch stickers and people will buy them. It'll be fine. Whatever. We'll figure out what my mind is. You're welcome. I didn't do it.

That was your... I assisted. I used to put Del Taco on there, but my most recent experiences with Del Taco have been pretty disastrous. What's on your, like, top ten list? Is that you're talking about? My Mount Rushmore. My big four chains. In and out, Del Taco, but you've now released, relinquished Del Taco.

I don't know. I guess if I was... Is it a venture capitalist thing that went on with Del Taco? What happened? It did get acquired and then sold again. No, no. It is one of those things. But, yes, I would put Popeyes on there because I love fried chicken, fried chicken is my favorite food.

And then I'd put the Cheesecake Factory because it's just like, you know, what? But you took Del Taco off, so you need one more, don't you? Okay, so if I was going to put on another one. By the way, this podcast started at a Cheesecake Factory. That's where we had our first meal in a year, too. Yeah. Boy, 10 years ago. You know what?

11 years ago. I don't know if this is, this counts, but. sucks. Can I put on an ice cream parlor? You're going to put handles on there? I'll put handles on there. Yeah. I think so.

Talk about recency bias. Handles over Jenny's? I like Jenny's a lot. I like Jenny's a lot too. Grass-fed. I mean, we're talking about quality here. Ingredients. I love Jennies.

Their strawberry is just strawberries in the ice cream. It's so good. Jenny's got too much shit for the, was it the, was it a salmonella or whatever? They had a thing where they had like some sort of, right, didn't they? There was some sort of foodborne disease. I don't know if I'm wrong. I apologize to them. I don't think it could be my Jenny.

They did. I reached out to them at one point. They were very sweet. They sent me some ice cream. But I liked them independent of them having sent me some ice cream. But we were doing a resurgence of Party Down. And I was like, they were doing flavors for other shows. I was like, man, a Party Down flavor would be amazing.

But I didn't give them enough lead time to like actually allow it to happen. But they were very sweet. I mean, maybe they were just bullshying me. But whoever DM'd me back was like. Let us know if you do another season and, you know, if we talk about it sooner, maybe we could. They've been very nice to a, they've been very nice. Oh, have they? They have.

They've been very nice. They have. Jennings and Handels are my two, are my two favorite L.A. spot. I mean, yeah. I guess my two favorite ice cream. Which Jennings isn't, Jennings is from Ohio. Yes. And they're, yeah.

But anyway, I like, I like their whole vibe. And just, I just get their vanilla. I've tried all their flavors. but I go back to their vanilla every time. Now you're speaking this guy's language again. Vanilla's a flavor. I love vanilla so much. It's very plain.

I'm not a bad person for liking vanilla bean as a flavor. I don't know. They make a good vanilla bean. Vanilla's good. Vanilla's a flavor. Like sometimes it's a fake flavor. Right. But with Jenny's, you can taste that it's real vanilla.

Have you been to handles? I don't know what you're talking about. It's spelled like the composer, not like a handle to a door. H-A-N-D-E-L. And I don't know, it might not be in Texas. I'm not sure. It's fairly recent to L.A. We're going to tell you this.

There's one right up the street if you want to try it. And if you do go there, I would get the orange cream dream. That's a great. There's great flavor. Graham Central Station is a banger. Half vanilla, half orange sherbet is what orange cream is. It's a very, very good flavor. Orange.

I'll look. It's in Texas. It is in Texas. In Austin? It's in Dallas. It's. in San Antonio. There's one in Austin.

Yes. And there's some in Houston. Wow. Okay. We love handles. We love Jennings too, though. Jenny's is very, very good ice cream. And I was going to say people were being too hard on it for one thing that happened, however many years ago.

But I... Nothing happened. Nothing happened. But that's the thing. The truth is... Jenny's record is spotless. Wow. That's, I agree, too.

Deny, deny, deny. Speaking of people being mad at someone for something that happened years ago... We're doing In-N-Out Burger. Last time we did this episode was with Rob Lowe, and there was a big fan backlash. You got very angry at us. I think if I remember correctly, we were all going through COVID. Now, I don't think it's in-and-out burger is the reason. People got mad at us and whatever.

It's fine. But I don't think the chain is the reason people got mad at our guests, but if it is, I'm sorry. If it's in-and-out-burgers-commodality, if they get really mad at you again, for some reason. I don't know to tell you because you're not doing anything wrong. If you don't like getting out, I don't like you. That's not true. Look, you're welcome to your opinion. A very Christian company so people do have beef with the company itself.

Sure. But they, fair enough. But I will say that the religion itself shouldn't take the brunt of all of the terrible things that are done in its name. And the way that they've run the company, I don't know she was a bit. Yeah. Like that alone is kind of disappointing because nobody needs that much money. Right. Regardless, the way that they treat their employees is better than any other fast food chain that I've heard of. They have a very good reputation for how they treat their people, their employees, and how they help raise them to manage new stores. Like they expand at a level where at a pace where so far, where they're not over expanding, they're really giving their own employees,

opportunity to come up and develop a career in the company. No, that all seems, that all seems true. And they pay them well. They're not like, they're not like bottom of the barrel, you know, $5.99 an hour. Like they're, they pay people at least a respectable amount because you, when you're there, you feel like people aren't miserable. I remember years ago seeing what managers make from in and out burger and is like, hey, that's pretty good money, you know?

I mean, like, it's certainly by industry standards, I think the WorldCompset. And Panda Express, also a family-owned company, has a good reputation. Love PANXPRA. Love Panda. Love Panda. The Orange Chicken. It's good. It's really good.

Should have gone a little further on a brunch madness. Look, next time. Orange chicken. Wow, next time. I love it. Next time we're doing Panda Express. I'm shocked you said next time because so many people who do the show never even tap out immediately.

This was fun. And I know we have another hour to go. But I'm leaving. now and next time. Now that would be a Roblo move. He did just leave the episode. No, he did leave the episode. Not he did he leave the episode, but he's like, I think I'm going to go get in and out right now.

And he got up and left. And then I don't think you know this on the episode, but Nick and I were seeing it was just a live video of an empty room. He didn't turn his camera off. He didn't turn his camera off. We're just watching this. So funny. Like the only way we can make it up to everyone is to have him back on it. We'll have him back.

We'll have a back. I thought he was an enemy of the show. Hell yeah. Apparently. Whoops. We're not supposed to talk about that. No, that's good. That's good Lord.

That's a good Lord drop. Here's because, you know, for me and Now Burger as a kid was like good report card. Like I have such a strong nostalgic association with it. How old are you? Sorry, that wasn't meant to. That felt like it was an intimate question. and I realize we're on a podcast right now after I said it's been on. I'm 45.

Okay, we're around the same age. Yeah, we're on the same age. And as is Mitch, around the same age. And it's like, so we're the same sort of generation. But like for me, my orders evolved a lot over the years. Like I just, I upgraded at one point when it got a little bigger to the double double, of course. Then I had a period where I was doing the three by three and even the four by four when I was a big eater and I was running a lot. 20s, four by four? Yeah.

Yep. Yeah. And I was crushing those. I remember one time because this. Was it like a thing of like the first day you had pubs? Did you do a double double or no? Was it one of those things or no? They're coming in.

Or did the double double cause the pubs to grow? That extra testosterone from the meat. Right? That's the thing. Yeah, that makes sense. And animal fries for a long time I resisted, but then I kind of got won over to them. But now I feel like they're kind of a little too goopy for me. Let's be real.

The fries get cold too fast. We talked about this. You have to eat them fresh. Yes. This whole, like, under these circumstances, it's not fair. We're not getting a fair representation of the food itself. It's not an ideal. We ate the food today 20 minutes, 30 minutes after it was cooked.

Yeah, it's not an ideal way of doing it in the way we did hold up. Yeah, agreed. But on that note. But you have to get more patties. I think a single, like, I think you got a single. Yeah, I got a single. A single is tough because it'll cool down way too quick. I got a triple.

and honestly I would usually get a triple and a double. Wow. And fries and a lemon up. I love the lemon up. Seven up and lemonade. You so cowboys know the lemon up trick. That's Armand Whitesman is the one who told me the lemonade and seven up trick, which I did not know. He didn't invent it.

I don't give credit to someone else. I'm your guest today. I'll say you invented it. I'll give you that credit. The lemon up. The lemon up is, and you know what, I should have done that last night. That's what I wanted, but I was like, but you can just do it. I never even thought about it.

I just got the pink lemonade last night. I'm going to give you a breakdown of my oral last night. I just like the sparkle. Yeah, the sparkle is nice. It's fun. That's my favorite version of the pink lemonade. I want this. You need the spark, you need the sparkle in there.

I got, I leveled up myself last night, Wags. I got a three by three. Yeah, we should clarify. To Martin's point, we had a, we had a, we had a, we had a, had a meal beforehand, but you and I... We're fat fox. The listeners are right. I love In-N-Out Burger.

And also, it's just like we kind of understand what in-and-out is and wanted a... We get a right now. Yeah, wanted a fresh experience. I should have done the same thing. I don't see if I had thought about it. Please, you're making more than enough time for us as is. And I was saying to you, Wags, being out of, being out of town and not and being away from L.A. for a month, coming back and having this be my first dough boy's meal back was,

was great. It was, I got a three by three, which I don't normally do. I did three by three double double. I'm sorry, a three by three animal style. Add raw onions, which Armin also taught me. We call the Armin style on the show. So with the grilled onions and the raw onions. Okay.

And then I got myself fries. I just still fries playing wise. And then I got a pink lemonade. And I got myself one of my now favorite things that in and out, which is the black and white shake. the chocolate half chocolate half vanilla shake. I fucking love the black and white shake. You can do any combination of flavors. You can do a Neapolitan if you like.

Yeah, they do strawberry too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the black and white shake is my, that's my favorite. That's my go-to shake there. I love it. So I went last night and I will say I did try the most recent add to the menu, which I'd never had. That is hot chocolate, which was added in 2018.

Wow. I know. It comes with marshmallows on request. They did forget my marshmallow is fine. Fucking assholes. The hot chocolate sucks. It's just like hot brown water. It's like the most disappointed I've been at something in and out in a while.

So I didn't really like it. Do you go vegan with it? Do they not have like a milk? It's made with water. It's not made with milk. I don't know why. You know what I do. They give it away to kids for free on rainy days in L.A.

I like that. I like that. It's free for kids. But I didn't like it. Why should they get over a lot of fun? Like, how hard up do you have to be to want chocolate water as a kid? You know what I mean? Yeah, sure.

Three or not. But I'm not going in. I like in and out. I'm not trying to burn any bridges here. I'm not going in and out burger for the hot chocolate, but I did want to try it in the interest of science. I got a double-double with onions, no tomatoes, add pickles. So kind of a big Mac style, which I do from time to time. I mix it up.

I loved it. It was great. And I got some fries and I got a vanilla shake. And you know what I was doing? I was dipping them fries in that vanilla shake. Yeah. Carl Jr. style, right?

Yeah, it's good. Oh, shit, I got a second burger. I did what you normally do. You got two burgers. I got a cheese burger, animal style, add raw onions, no lettuce and tomato because I like to, I think, I like the lettuce and tomato on the burger,

but I think sometimes it can just be, especially with a single patty, you're not tasting the meat as much. Yeah. And that was a road burger. I ate that on the ride home. Hell yeah. And it was pretty damn good.

I enjoyed it. Single patty, Marges sister. This is, you, it's true. You inspired. A separate thought. Please. But if you're ever in Atlanta and you like French fries and you like dipping them in a desserty kind of substance, that doesn't.

I don't know why I said it like that. I get what you mean. In an ice cream. Yes. There is a place called Little Sparrow. Little Sparrow. The best French fries you will ever have. Wow.

And they haven't sponsored me. yet. But they make the best. I believe it's triple or quadruple fried French fries. And they are the best fries I've ever had in my life. So Tulsa King shoots in Atlanta. So I spend a fair amount of time in Atlanta these days. With our mutual friend McKenna.

Yes. McKenna and Tony will come to visit. Tony Mach, who we've had on the podcast. Yes. Yeah. I love both of them. We love you both. Love you guys.

They're great, great people. If you're watching now or listening, we love you. We love you. Tony plays a, Tony plays a great piece of, kind of a piece of shit. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. On the comeback. Oh, whoa, oh, oh, okay. He plays a great piece of shit.

You're on the comeback with him. I was, that's how I met Tony. Yes, yeah, yeah. By the way, great duo. Her nickname is McGibbens. Did you hear this already? No, I don't. I don't, I, I don't, we haven't hung out enough.

We've hung out a few times, but. Well, you will, and you can ask her why she's called McGibbons. I'm going to ask her. Love that. But they also have really good desserts. They do an olive oil ice cream, like soft serve. And you can get that with the fries and dip them in the sauce. We got to do the H-TL.

I haven't done the dipping. Yeah. I get the fries at the beginning of the meal. I get the dessert at the end, like a normal person. Fair, yeah. But very combinable. They'll do whatever you want. I love it.

Little sparrow, small bird will remember it. TL, too. We got to do the, we did the 8TL. We went to Atlanta and we, we, we, those episodes were called HTL. They were called HTL. We're going to do ATL2 with Rob Lowe maybe. Is he in, and. Let's fly him out there. Yeah. It's fine out there. Why not? Lives in Santa Barbara, but why not? I might be out there. Let me. Let me. If we do A TL too, I'll, I'll, I'll do Little Sparrow with you guys. I know that. I know that I've heard that you guys are out there for a good stretch of time, I know, too. We're going to be out there for the majority of the rest of this year. Oh my God. Yeah.

Damn. What a life you actors live? Just being away from home for such long stretches. But what about Wally and Irma? I know. What about Wally and Irma? No, I meant that in both a positive and then also like a, you know, a negative way. It's like it can be, it's tough to be away from home for a long time.

You're damn right. Yeah. Oh, you writers, you get to fucking stay at home and stay in the room. It's fucking bullshit. Nice. Sometimes on Zoom. It's also rotting to the core like the rest of the industry. I'm very, very thankful.

to have a job. Anyway. It's so funny, this. It's really bad. How have we ended up here? Specifically on this podcast? I drove through the location. I drove through a go-to location.

This is the place where I've had to get out of my car twice to deal with line cutters in the drive-thru, which drives me crazy. So thankfully, there was no... Get out of your car to deal with line cutters? Well, yeah, I mean, like, yeah, I scared the hell of it. You ever seen the movie falling down? Wait. How do they... Help me understand.

What's the process? What's the purpose of cutting lines? They see his gun. So here's the issue. Because you have to order. Yes. And then by the time you pay, you're the next one up. Here's what happens.

The line gets backed up down the street. But there is an alley. There's a driveway that you have to keep clear. And so people will sneak into that driveway and then just take a cut into the middle of the line. So I've witnessed this happen a few times. That's not okay. It's not cool. This is the Mitch and Arby situation.

Yes. Before you actually order. Before I've actually ordered, yeah. I was imagining you order, and then people would cut in, and then they don't have control of what they're getting. Did he swipe your order? That's a fucking... That's a fun scheme. That is a fun scheme.

Let's do it. That is... I love that idea. All right. I yelled at some lady at the Arby's line, and then I was like... Because she... I mean, she cut me. And I was like, hey, you're cutting me, and then she was, like, yelling back, and I was like, yeah, whatever.

And then I felt so bad. And they know this, but I... I got to the window and I bought her meal because I was like, we're both just, we're both solo here at the drive-thru line. It's Arby's. It's 11 p.m. Things are going great for either of us. It could have been your future wife.

It maybe was. And as ships passing, if you're out there. Wait, you haven't gotten married to one of the fans' wives yet. If you've fucked. But you've got such a high body count on a wife. I've murdered a few people. I, uh, I, I, I, I will, not break the Catholic rule. I will not

until they get separated from their spouse. I will not. You're not going to be a home wrecker. Even if it's like a consensual thing, the guy's like, I'm in a hot wife and I want you to fuck my wife and she's like, I'm into it too. Then he's going to watch. He's not necessarily going to watch. I don't think they always watch. Let me tell you,

it's going to be a short show. What if they pay you? Well, now we are talking something different here. We'll see what. We'll see what continues to develop with the Do Boys podcast. We've done 10 years now. I would love it. When we come back. See, now it's become when.

For episode two, if you've got a story to tell. That would be great, Mitch. Won't this husband pull me at some point? Make it happen. If you're listening now and you've got a hot wife, you want to have a short time watching.

Increase her body count. How long does a short have to be for like an Oscar short film? How long does it have to be? I don't know. There's a minimum length. Yeah, I don't know. There's a maximum, I think. There is a maximum length.

Which doesn't sound like you'll have a problem. Wise, I went to the same location that we got in and out from today last night. It's the Glendale location. On Harvey Drive. On Harvey Drive. That's also my go-to in and out. Also, a short film is defined as 40 minutes or less. for the Oscars.

Okay, or less sounding pretty good. Or less, you say? I like this Glendale. It's a good in and out. It's a good in and out. They do have an annoying line thing, though, where you can either turn right into the in and out or you can come from coming from the highway we're at.

We usually come from you have to turn left. And when it's really crowded, it becomes like people get really boxy and cagey about, they like inch their cars through red lights. and stuff to, like, not lose their spot. There's just so much, there's so much real estate there, though, that so much the line happens within that huge massive area that they have. Also, a huge parking lot, and it's easier just to park and then go in and order inside.

We do that about, too. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a good, it's a good in and out, and we got it. This is the one we got today. I wasn't going to have any lunch wags. Martin, we got some in and out for you. Nick said, hey, toss a, uh, toss a, uh, toss.

tossy. That dog just looks so happy. Oh, you're taking a picture of the dog. I'm sorry that I post. Sorry, you got. Wags said, hey, toss on a single animal style ad-chop chilies. And I said, I'm following suit here. I get me a double-double animal style ad-chop chilies.

And I also threw on a black and white shake again two days in a row. And I was happy I did, Wags. I didn't even know chopped chilies. I love that they have so many things on their hidden menu that you can, like, still that there's probably still stuff that even now after the chopped chilies, I bet there's other things I've never... Have you encountered the Flying Dutchman?

Uh-oh. It's just a... I don't know where this is going. The Flying Dutchman is a very weird menu item, but it's just two patties with cheese in the middle. Nothing else, and it's served on paper. So if you want to do like... You can also call it a grilled cheese. I know

that they make... Yeah, you can get a grilled cheese too with buns, but the flying Dutchman, it's the buns or burgers. Oh, wait, sorry. I understand. It's burger, cheese, burger, and then you just get it in, like, a paper. It's like a KFC double down.

And some people just toss that on their, they'll toss it on their fries. They'll get, like, an animal-style fry. Yes, this is like a home-brewed thing, which people do. Interesting. When I was eating keto, not eating. That's like the keto burger, right? Yes. And when I was eating keto, not Cheeto, as Paul Rust said.

When I was eating keto. Oh, Paul Russ. Paul got me good. on that episode. And I also ate keto for a very short period of time. But when I was eating keto, you can tell the quality of the In-N-O burger patties.

That was like the one, like, you get an In-Ope burger lettuce wrapped and you're like, this is quality meat compared to everywhere. It is good beef. Yeah, I look, I have a lot of fondness for, you know, you talked about living in Austin and in Texas, I know people there love the Waterburger.

And also, I've heard some decline from Waterberg. There's declines of Waterburger at top. going on amongst, I think it's maybe another venture capitalist thing. That may be the case. That's a, that's a, just, just... Not cool. But, you know, I'm just talking like in terms of, aside from that, people have their nostalgia for what they grew up with,

of course. And in the Midwest, it's Culvers. People love Culvers, you know? I mean, so, like, I don't expect someone who's, like, lived in Texas their whole life, comes to California, finally tries in an out Burger to see where all the hype is about. I can, I, I'm never surprised when they're maybe underwhelmed, because this thing has been built up in their mind so much.

You need a few go-round. You need a few go- to really get into it. And also it's fun. I was always fun to make fun of it with you because you were very precious about it. Yeah. Like you do to me, you do the same thing to me. You get, you get it. You make fun of the things I love.

And I, I know in and out as good. It's a quality place. Is it a five fork place, which is, I guess what we will determine. What the hell does that mean? We have a scoring system. Got it. I thought you need five forks. What's, I've never actually been to Waterburger.

Wow, okay. You should try water burger. They do the little mini burgers, is there right? No, I think they've got more like regular scale burgers. In my memory, I only don't people love that one chicken tender sandwich or whatever. They do have a tending sandwich of people like. And they have a biscuit breakfast sandwich? What's that?

There's not like a biscuit breakfast sandwich that people are. Oh, right. We weren't able to try it. We did like water burger when we, when we reviewed it. It was good. This is a long time ago. Long time ago. Was that in Austin?

We were, we were, it was in our Texas tour. We were doing Austin, Dallas, and Houston. I think we did that in Dallas. right? Oh yeah, maybe. Anyway, I mean, like the dinner burger I got today was also great. My cheeseburger with chop chiliers was good.

Did you also get the chop chilies? I got the same thing as you. What did you think of that, bad boy? Loved it. Yeah. And then, Emma, you got a protein-style burger. I had a protein-style burger, which is not my normal go-to, but I was like, I don't want a full burger

today in the middle of the day. So I was like, I'll try a protein-style burger. And I had it even later than you guys was fully cold. It's still delicious. No. Now, both of you, knowing your eating habits, this was your first meal. of the day. Is that true?

Yeah, how'd you know that? It was. It was my first meal of the day, too. Oh, yeah. Well, will you, of course. What the fuck? It was 3 p.m. I know. That's what I'm saying. Everyone's eating a burger at 3 p.m. That's the first bite. I went to the doctors earlier and I didn't eat before I got my blood taken.

I was just drinking water. I think that was my first meal as well. Wow. How about that? But like I had eaten before that just not, like I had had food just not like a meal. Sure. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, honestly the same for me. I had like a shake earlier. Marma, will you tell us what you got, what your order was and what you thought of it? I had a triple meat. I don't always love, so on a smash burger,

cheese it up. I'm into it. For some reason, I just didn't, I never liked cheese on burgers. Wow. And I get why you do. I get why one does.

But it just isn't like my, my, I don't know. I didn't realize that yours was cheeseless today. It was a three by three, no cheese. It was a, or I guess just a three. Yeah, three by zero or just a triple meat. Triple meat is what it's called.

But I, even back of the day, like Seth, Rogan and I would go a lot to get burgers, and he was always perplexed by why I didn't like cheese. He probably still would be. I just don't talk to them about it anymore. I keep my mouth shut. I was a hamburger. boy back when I was a, uh, when I was a kid. You had a cheeseless phase. I went cheeseless for a very long time. I was also, I mean, Gabor said that this unlocked some stuff to me. My, my dad's dad died of a heart

attack and I got very afraid of eating any fast food. And then Gabor's is like, hmm, this is like, and now you do it for a living. It's unlocking a lot of weird shit. And I was like, yeah, no, I didn't, I was afraid to eat McDonald's for a long time. But then I, around like middle, end of elementary school, middle school, I started trying cheese burgers. I was like, oh, I like this is, I like it. But it seems like you have them sometimes. It's not like you'd never have had one. If I get a smashburger, I'll have it with. Yeah.

But also my preferred smash burger would be like with onions. Like I believe it's called Oklahoma style. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it has like the grilled onions like into the patty. Mm-hmm. Have you been to hamburger America in New York City? No.

Next time you're there. Oh my God. You'll love it. It's a delight. I'll save it. It's fantastic. Great restaurant. I also had a cheeseless phase.

I used to get the double meat in an out burger. I got that for like four years. when I was a teenager. Those might consist an order. The last 10 years or so, you've been cheesy as hell. I know. I've over corrected.

What's it called again? Hamburger America. All right. Pretty straightforward. I think they should rename the country that. I was, I mean, my internet was hitting today.

That's what it feels like. It does kind of feel like hamburger America right now. It feels like we're in hamburger America. Right. My internet was hitting today. I got some animal fries to the table because I knew it was.

was not going to be super hungry. So this is like you got the cheeseburger. It was not a great call to make that a shareable. And especially that one's sitting for a while. I thought it was nice that you tried. The cheese just kind of congealed. Yeah. Yeah.

How are your fries and burger handling today? Fries don't like hold as well. Right. Time wise. The burger was great. And that's also why I went with, I usually get a double and a triple. But I eat a lot. Sure.

And somehow I haven't. Like I feel like I should. should be 400 pounds just based on how much. But I think I just kind of got lucky that my parents passed down good metabolism. Praise the Lord. That's a great thing to have. But I also like stay pretty active. Like, um, I try to, also McKenna and I have, um, McKenna and I and our friend Vince.

We all room, we rent the house together when we're shooting Tulsa King. And, uh, we have, uh, We have a bet going to see who's going to get in the best shape by the next season. So that's going to allow me to eat more food while I'm here. That's that when I said this to Nick, but when I was shooting Twisted Metal was in New Orleans and it almost felt like you had to write some explanation for my character because I was getting bigger as the season was going on. I mean, it's not fair. You're in New Orleans.

Right. It was very hard to. Food there is. so good and everything is fried in duck fat. Like, you can't not put on 40 pounds if you're there for a season. I fucking rules. I loved being down there. Did you visit and did you guys do some episodes there?

We didn't go out of knowledge. No, we didn't do any bayou. Although you and I have been down in the bayou together. We have. We went to Jacques Emo's together, a wonderful restaurant in New Orleans. A great time for Tigg and Stephanie's wedding. That's right. That's why I want to go.

Come on. I do want to go to New Orleans. You've got to take them. I have not been. Come on, guys. I've driven through on road trips, but I've never stayed. Apparently. Oh, Orlando wasn't enough for you two?

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Get started today? All right, we got to rate this restaurant. So, Martin, here's how this will go. We'll each go around. Oh, how is the lemon up hidden? Really good. We'll each go around. I love that lemon up.

Excellent. And give a closing argument, if you will, and then give this a fork score from zero to five. You're our guest. We'll begin with you. Your thoughts, your fork score for In-N-Out Burger. Zero to five. Yeah. Do you, is it ranked?

Just help me understand that, like, is it categorically? Is it like food overall? It's just one overall rating. And it's, okay. We always say, does it succeed? at what it's trying to do. Yeah, right. Oh, five.

Wow, five forks. I love it. I think in and out is consistently good. It isn't as good 15 to 20 minutes later. Right. But it's still hold the burger held up. And I still have nostalgia for the fries. If there is a hole in, I can understand the argument that their fries maybe aren't,

compared to other places aren't the best. But to me, I grew up on them. And also just that they're actual potatoes, that you see them, like, turning it into fries there in front of you. I love that it's, there's nothing else going on. There's, it's not a frozen bag of shit that they're putting into a friar. It's just potatoes. And that's how, that's how French fries are meant to taste. I also love their cheese fries because they just, like, throw a slice of cheese on top of them and it gets melty.

but then the fries underneath don't get as dried out. I feel like there's like some steam. It happens. It keeps them softer and delicious. They travel a little better too. I was going to say that my issue with the fries is they probably traveled the worst of any fry. And I'll say this. I loved Wendy's fries and then they changed them to travel better.

Wendy's is just falling apart. And you know how many chemicals go into allowing them to travel better? A thousand percent. It's fresh, just like fresh out of the. the fryer, they are some of the best fries that you can get from a fast food restaurant. I, I, I, I, look, speaking of chemical fries,

I do love McDonald's fries. I loved Wendy's fries at one point, but they changed them to have the skins on them and I don't, and also they now travel. Oh, you only go skinless. I only go skinless. I'm, I'm, I'm a cut boy, Wags. I like cut fries as well. He's a skinny dipper.

Are you seen because you're circumcised? Yeah. Yep. Cut off the skin. Jesus. I'm a skinny dipper. That's when fries, I'm a skinny dipper. That's another one that we could get a t-shirt or condoms or something on.

Great. Yeah, let's put it on condoms for the people and their wives. I, uh, I, I've always, I liked it out always, why, because I gave it a hard time. And look, people, there is a Christian side of it. I think that billionaire woman who owns it is like had gone Trumpy or was Trumpy. Yeah, they consistently, like I say to my truth, consistently donating to, you know, awful politicians. The podcast has gotten harder to do because all of these places are so bad. We're looking at where we live.

You think someone who owns a business in this country is going to be a good person. I'm not trying to get you riled up about this. What they, the more money you have, I mean, there's like a mental illness that comes with having money. I agree. And there are studies that show that there's a. a sociopathy that comes along with having money. You stop caring about people and you start to feel like people are against you, which they kind of are, but it's only because you have so much money only because you've had to treat people like shit to get there. Yes. Like that's not to say that

this woman is necessarily indicative of that particular function of being rich, but like you could give your money away. What are you doing with a billion dollars? The fuck do you need a billion dollars, too. No one needs a billion dollars. And all of these places, I'm just saying this because I think In&L gets that wrap a lot because there's Christian stuff on the cups, et cetera, et cetera, whatever.

I do love In and out. I think it's a great fast food restaurant-wise. I think what they're trying to do, they do really well. And they treat their people well. That is something to me that goes a long way. 100%. I think that's huge.

And also, that black and white shake is fantastic. It's brown. I mean, it's brown. It's brown. It is. Call it what it is. It's the poo shake. It's the poo.

I like the poo, and I love the poo shake. And also some stuff that I, I was going to say, I, just much like Seth Rogen, I'm a cheese man. I like cheese on my burgers. But I've leveled up to be triple patty. I did a triple patty last night in that the three by three, you're getting just a lot more of that meat. And I think the ratio is a little bit better with all of the lettuce and tomato on there. I love it. It's great.

In and Out is great. This isn't a five fork restaurant. What the fuck are we doing here? It is. It's a five forker. Come on. Yeah, let's see what you've got to say. Five forks from the spoon, man.

Yeah, I mean, like, here's the thing. I live in an out burger so much. Wait, do you like soups? Is that why you're the spoon man? What's going on? Yeah, where are you the spoon man? I had a spoon in my pocket one day. Okay.

And then I said I was the spoon man. Did you not remember this? I forgot that was the origin of it. Deep deep. That was it. I think that's what it was. I think that's what it was. I think that's what it was.

I think that's what it was. Wow. I was a spoon in my pocket. I was like, I'm the spoon man. Damn. It's stuck. It's stuck. I'm not going to show you guys the knife in my pocket.

Like, man. About the, just about the fries real quick. The fries are bad. I don't, did you just say they are bad? They are kind of bad. I'm going to say this.

I think that you can, you can get them double fried or you can get them extra fried or you can put salt on them. Oh, you can. You can. You can. You can. Can't. This is real. You can ask for them to be double-frizzed. You can ask for them well-done. Well-done or extra well. And I'll say this. I think there's ways to make

the fries good. I like them right in the middle. I like some of them a little soggy. You still get crispy edges on some of them. It's like a mix of, you get them too crispy and they're just shells. Yes. And that's every fries that way. And you can also, you can saw. I think that there's an issue with like you can salt them and you should salt them. I just think I get people being mean to the fries. And I am sometimes too. But sometimes they do hit. They sometimes. sit, today they can gild a little bit. What are you laughing out of it? I'm just laughing at being mean to the fries. If you're going to complain about a thing in and out, I think the fries are okay to complain about a little bit. What's your French fry

body count? Oh my God. Jesus. That number is so fucking high. Whoa, dude. I'm talking Kareem numbers. Was that what's that was Karee? Oh, yeah. Kareem was, I think Kareem was like hundreds and hundreds of women per year. Yeah. Well, Kareem was the, I thought you're saying the all-time leading scorer in Nemi history. I think we're thinking about Wilts Chamberlain. Oh, it's Wilk Chamberl. Oh, yeah, it's Wilklin's a guy who said he slept like 10,000.

My fry numbers are, I mean, I probably top Wilts' other body count number. Yes, 100%. Are we going to individual frauds or like per fry? I'll go on individual. I have to go individual fries.

Definitely. Yeah. How many fries do you take down in the past couple days? You know what I mean? Like, it's like... Willt Chamberlain number. It was Wilk Chamberl numbers.

A fry every hour, whatever the fuck it was for him, whatever that insane equation. Wasn't it like he was sleeping with like a woman like, with the number was correct, it had to be like two a day or something insane.

I never, I didn't do the math, but I'll touch you on that. There were probably some days where it was much more than that. Probably was. I think that, yeah, yeah. I get it. I mean, I don't get it. About the potatoes.

I mean, you don't know. I don't know. You don't know, but you're like, yeah, okay, I understand. About the fries. All right, talk about the fucking potatoes. They do come. You put yourself in that position

when like, none of us know anything. But you chose. to make yourself the center of that joke. All right. Sorry. No, no, you're fine. Hey, we just keep interrupting him. We're having fun.

Speak for yourself. Do you want to interrupt him with anything else? I'll get it. I'll get it. I love it. They do come from whole potatoes. Tell us about the potatoes. Oh, you are.

Yeah, they do come from whole potatoes. Shake Shack actually had, like, their crinkle cut fries are frozen. They switch to fresh potatoes at a certain point, And the customers rebelled. They did not like them. And so I think that's part of what people are responding to. They're so used to frozen fries that when you encounter fresh fries, you're like these taste off. Anyway.

The thing we said about Taco Bell before people are like, it gives me diarrhea. It's like you actually are just having lettuce for the first time. Yes, you don't have any dietary fiber. You're having beans. And so that's what's happening to you. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think like, but all that said.

I don't know. Have you seen a Taco Bell how when they put the meat on something? it's from a hose that they pull down from the ceiling and they push the lever on it and it just like lets what looks like poo come out onto your taco I've seen Mitch put that hose directly into his mouth I was going to say.

Wait, did you do that? Did they let you behind the counter? Speaking of suicide, put that hose in my car window. But that's, that is, I'm not making this up. No, you're not at all. You could see it for yourself at any Taco Bell. I mean, I assume they're still good. And there's, there's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, a lot of comedians are like, oh, Taco Bell gives you diarrhea and we just always are like, it. It might just be that you're eating fiber. There's other, there, uh, we, uh, we do, uh, and also.

All right, go ahead. You know, what more is there to say about In Now Burger from me at this point? I've talked about it incessantly over the years. So I figured I'd defer to one of its biggest fans, the late great Anthony Bourdain. I have a little clip here. What the fuck is this all? Wow, you came prepared. This is like a ballistic missile.

Perfectly designed delivery system, protein delivery system. He's eating an Annaburger right now, a double-old. And I like mine animal style. And I'd tell you what that is, but I'd have to kill you. He looks cool as hell just sitting there with sunglasses. Always. Oh, yeah. If he says five forks, I'm going to be blown away.

There it is. My favorite restaurant in Los Angeles. A city with many fine restaurants, by the way, just on my cheap, nasty, low-down trailer park burger slut. It's a good burger. It's a good burger. It's his favorite restaurant or was his favorite restaurant in Los Angeles. Recipes.

Rest in power. And also. Five Forks. This is a platinum plate club. No, Burger's not going to be. Wow. Wow, all that. You really teased a lower score.

No, I would know. I knew he was never going to go lower because I just know him. He loves, it's his favorite restaurant. I love it. I'm so glad I didn't, like, weasel into like a 4.5 forks or something, not knowing how your scale works. I went full-blown five forks. They would have raw blow your ass if you fucking, if you pulled that shit, they would have robbed you.

But again, that's me. Me coming in as a gummy skeptic and being won over by these gummies is the same thing as you not knowing how the podcast. works and saying what's in your heart and what's in your heart is five forks because that's how you actually feel you weren't trying to pander you weren't trying to cater to anyone so yeah five for for an outburger all around Mitch it's at 641 do you need to go we should let's let's do let's do the question while we do that yeah let's do the segment and question all right it's time for a segment we got a food stuff we're going to decide if you should you got to go on a run too don't you

like we got to get you out of here for your yeah I'm training for a for a half marathon so all right are you are no I'm not running tonight uh what is it uh Saturday. I'm so not ready. You're going to crush it. You don't want to come. You said Rob Load, and I wonder if it's Rob Blown. I think it's Rob Blone. All right, so this is snack or whack. I was in Japan for the first time, had to pick up some Japanese Kit Katz. These are all regionally themes. These are first ones from Mount Fuji. The second one is from, do you have the region there? Is it from...

Okinawa? Yeah, this is a Shinshu apple. Oh, my God. And then there is a... An apple kit cat? And then there's a wasabi one. So those big ones that are not in the boxes are actually from

World Market in Glendale. Those are not the same pile. Great. So we're going to taste test these and render a verdict. And while we're doing that, just like a restaurant, we're via your feedback. Let's up with the feedback. Today's email is from Nick R. Nick writes, doughboys, what belongs

on a charcuttery board? All right, we're munching Kit Katz and talking charcuttery boards. What are y'all starting with? You starting with this? Mount Fuji? I was going to do... I was going to start with Mount Fuji.

I was going to start with this so I get it out of the wood. Oh, that's also smart. That's smart. Also, by the way, I have to leave. I'm going to go see Johnny Pemberton's movie Mermaid. Very cool. To give it a plug. Our guest has been so generous with their time.

I feel like an asshole that I've got to leave. Oh, you're good. He's got to go on a run. You're out of here for a movie. If you want, you can stick around. Yeah, I think the three of us are just going to hang out and talk. Take Jimmy for a walk or something. Yeah.

This is odd, but I don't hate it. Surprisingly, so much better than I ever thought it would be. You know what? The after taste is a little, little odd. But not too bad. Not too bad. Spicy? It has a little wasabi aftertaste. Here, I'm throwing it at you.

Oh, we got more. We had a whole pack of the one. But actually, pretty good. I can just circulate these whole thing. And that's it. Yeah. I'm going to end with Mount Fuji. Yeah, because I think Fuji is going to be the best if I'm being told. That one's going to be blueberry and this one's going to be apple. Weirdly good.

So a shakoutureboard, you know what I like on a shakouture board? What's that? I like a little bit, a little pickle. I want some sort of pickle elements. I would love a pickle on there, yeah. Also, some sort of... I love that you have a candy element to this whole process, too. What, I'll tell you all.

You're saying a sweet on the charcutor board. Some sort of compote or honey or something, you know what I mean? Oh, I see the theme is charcutoribor board. Yeah. Okay. This is, this isn't, this isn't, this isn't bad. The apple one? It's like a slight taste of apple.

It's not bad. It's not bad. It's not great. Apple and chocolate. No. Apple on a shakutery board, though. Delicious. Now we're talking.

Apple and cheese. Great. At the bar you worked at, and thank you for your service, did you have a circuitry board there? Yeah, actually, that, one of the restaurants I, the last restaurant I worked out was called the salty pig, still open in Boston. Oh, yeah. Build your own charcutority board restaurant. So they had, like, all of these meats and encutrimands, and you could choose, like, however many you wanted, and it came with a bunch of bread and pickles and mustard. It was great.

You're, oh, mustard's a good call, but you, you, you, you, yeah, you. You're an expert then. Do you have any, like, do you remember any particular standouts from that? Or did you have a favorite configuration? Like, a classic salami is usually a favorite. Just, like, and sometimes a spicy, spicy, like, Merguez salami. Or, like, a black pepper salami is always a good favorite. Or, like, a prosciutto is classic.

Or, like, a coat of ham or, like, something like that, a little. What type of bread are we talking here? Would you go, would you like a pita bread or do you want, like, a French sourdough? Yeah, like a sourdough or crustier bread or something like that. At that restaurant, it was baguettes that we would cut. Bates is perfect. Diagnally, and then they'd toast them in the pizza oven. Oh, yeah.

What flavor is this? This is blueberry cheesecake, and it's from Mount Fuji for some reason. I'm not sure the association. It's very good. Yeah, that one's really good. You know what? That one's my favorite. That's my favorite. It's very pretty.

If I was going to rank them, I put that one, and actually weirdly put the wasabi second and put the apple third. I think I agree with that. I think the blueberry and the wasabi are snacks, and the apple might be a mild. whack just because I don't think I'd want to have another one of these. Wasabi is maybe my favorite one. The two are the white color. Wow. I definitely, that's third. I don't need that spice

aftertaste. It's a little weird. And I'm a bit of a heat seeker. I like it's spicy. I like spicy, but in this context it doesn't. I wonder what it would have been like heat forward. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the feel the wasabi at the beginning as opposed to the end. Right. Because I feel like you want the sweetness at the end to take you out. I concur. I would say, I would say snacks for all three. I, like, I think the apple is a light, small snack, but... Which one's dinner? Wait, sorry, I was just making a joke.

How is... All three are... It's snack or whack, we'll say. Oh, I understand. Now we get it. All three to me are pass. And we've had so many bad flavors of these Kit Katz that I'm like, these are all... These are all good. These are all good.

It's just a higher quality of candy. I don't think I'd eat any of them again. I probably... I might eat the blueberry cheesecake one again, but I think they're all good. Yeah. And as far as it break down the shark, curry board. Mustard pickles,

some sort of sweet element, bread. You want like a fresh, like a apricot or, well, which maybe not fresh, but like a fig jam. Big jam or apple sliced apple.

Oh shit, her Italian's coming out. Oh, you're Italian. I knew it. Apple, I think an apple, some sort of,

an apple is a, for me, is a good, like a green apple. Maybe like a tart. Tart. Yeah. You get it.

Cherries are good. Yeah, cherries are good. People like olives, not my jam, but I get it. Yeah. I feel like you can have olives in the same, like, at the same time of the meal as a shakouterie board, but they're not on the shakutery board. Does that make sense? Yes.

That does make sense. That's how I feel. No, I totally agree with you. Yeah. I would just, real quick, charcutory board is making me think of now when I went to this wine bar and they had this charcuttery board called like the slab or something like that, and it was, we ordered it not knowing it was for six. Or actually, and they were like, it's for six.

and there were just the two of us were like, we'll take it, and we fucking crushed it. We finished that. Natalie's a good eater. She's a hell of an eater. She's a hell of an eater. And she's like Martin. She's like very lithe, but just has this incredible metabolism. Well, you sit around on your asshole.

Well, you're going running now, which I'm proud of you. Yeah, we're all really happy about it. I don't think those are the shoes that you're going to want to wear. No, I don't think the Marty Supreme shoes are quite going to work. But the socks are great. I do like the socks. Thank you. They ever done the shark cootery that's like in a shape of a shark fin?

That's so good. really fun. I'm just throwing things out here. We gotta end the show. We're just throwing things out. Oh, come on. Let's get that shark cutery board. That's fucking... That's fucking good. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, email us at Feedback at Birdfock.com. Leave us voicemail 830. Go-Doh. That's 830-463844. Our producers, Emma Urbrenk, our associate producers, Amelia Marino. Our video editor is Mike Dorfman.

We've got merch at kinshipgoods.com slash doughboys. And Emma, we got some live shows coming up in San Jose and Irvine. We got Irvine and San Jose at the end of April, the 29th and the 30th, I believe. And then we're going to be in North Carolina and Atlanta at the end of May. So hit us up at Birdfuck. You're going to be in Atlanta? Yes, you're going to be there? I won't be there yet.

Damn. But maybe we can grab some little sparrow. Yeah. Definitely do that. Also, the Doe Boys Double Reagal bonus episode is over at patreon.com slash doughboys. Martin Star. What an absolute delight. Congratulations.

Thanks so much for having me. Your first of many episodes. Sorry. Yeah. Please plug away. Sweet Stash are the gummies. and they're available at sweetstash.com. You can buy it at Amazon now.

We have just recently gone to Amazon to make it a little easier for people, but our plan is to be in stores nationwide. We're just kind of building up to that. We're in 350 stores in the Midwest. Wow. And we're just kind of, you know, we want people to be able to try our candy

and hopefully they'll love it as much as we do. I think they're delighted. So congratulations. Anything else you want to plug? You know, life is good, guys. Guys, you should listen to this episode of Do Boys that I did. You're going to love it. It's really fun.

We talk about body counts a lot. We tell you that ice cream. Play it back. Check that out. Play it back. There's a dog. I love that you have a little microphone for the dog that she'll never use. There's a floor mic. There's Jimmy.

Jubby Hight. Until next time for the spoon around by Mitchell, I'm Nick Tiger Wiger. Happy Eaton. See ya. Hi, I am Mandy Moore.

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