Doughboys - Irv's Burgers with Sam Brown

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

Sam Brown (@thatsambrown, The Whitest Kids U'Know) joins the 'boys to talk Dune, Sandwich Massachusettes, and stunt eating before a review of Irv's Burgers. Plus, another edition of Chips Inhale: Res-Chew Rangers.Elizabeth Hayhurst's GoFundMe: https://gofund.me/50e54e2aStream The Whitest Kids U’ Know at WatchTWKUK.com or on the Shout! TV app.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://www.roadtripusa.com/blog/get-your-kicks-song/https://national66.org/pages/route-66-historyhttps://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/back0303.cfmhttps://www.timeout.com/los-angeles/news/76-year-old-irvs-burgers-returns-to-west-hollywood-after-four-years-070522https://www.ocregister.com/2024/02/28/irvs-burger-a-los-angeles-staple-since-1946-comes-to-orange-county/https://irvsburgers.com/our-story/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Authorized by the Federal Aid Highway Act of 1921, opened in 1926, and fully paved via New Deal infrastructure funding in 1938, the titular highway that connects the windy city to the City of Angels would shape pre-war interstate commerce as well as hasten the rise of American car culture for better or mostly for worse. And back in 1946, near Route 66's West Coast Terminus, as drivers neared the Pacific Ocean

along what is now West Hollywood's Santa Monica Boulevard, one might see a sign over a roadside stand advertising, No Lobster, Just Burgers. First opened as Queen's Burgers, the restaurant has operated for three-quarters of a century via a baton pass of ownership. The now titular Irv Gendes bought the business from its founders in 1970. Sonya Hong assumed stewardship in 2000, becoming a local celebrity in the process. And following its closure in 2018, in 2022, LA restaurant tour Lawrence Longo purchased a steak to pull the concept out of post-pandemic oblivion.

With famed fans like Rockers The Clash, Jim Morrison, and Linda Ronstadt, Ronstadt even used a photo of the burger shack as the cover art for her album Living in the USA, the eatery is as much a part of music history as the Nat King Cole road trip standard. Today with four Southland locations and one outlet in Las Vegas that you can drive to via Route 66, it still offers burgers, pastrami and fries prepared just for you in the handwritten parlance of owner-operator Sonia Hong. So if you pull up today, nearly 80 years since its founding, you can still get your licks on Route 66. This week on Doughboy, Irv's Burgers. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host,

Burgers 8-3, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. What? Here's a fun little roast to celebrate Mitch's love of Baldur's Gate 3. Thanks, Max. Oh. Thanks, Max. Hey.

Hey. Yeah. Our guest doesn't know this yet, but this show is also like a, kinda like a comedy workshop, I guess. Yeah, people just try stuff out, and we give notes. Roastedbirdfuck.com. Baldur's Gate III, a game that I have spent a lot of time

with and you have not played, and so the max is making it. How many hours did you think? How many hours have I spent? Yeah. I can look it up in the Steam store, but it's over 300. Cause I played through the full game twice. Yeah. So wait a when my when my plumber said he was going good at the steam store He was going off to just play video games

Given the John a test run no This is ridiculous how many hours have you gotten in there? I mean it will probably take you too long to look at let me see I don't know I might have to leave a steam app from my phone. Let me see if I guess five hours Five hundred hours, it's not five hundred hours. It's north of 300 hours. I don't think it's 500. Is it 350? 350, we got 350. Any other guesses in the room? Fucking auctioneer. 350 and one. I'll do 400.

Casey goes 400. Shit, he really, you always felt bad for that guy in Price is Right who did the over, but then the one other guy's like, I'm last you idiot, and took the hand. All right, let's sort by playtime here. We've got, you know, FTL, Stardew Valley, Civilization 6, of course, Honey Pop and Honey Pop 2. I don't wanna know what those are. The Hentai Puzzle Games.

These are more hours than Baldur's Gate. Baldur's Gate 3 actually is number one. Playtime, wait, what was your guess? 400, and then who else had 350? 350, one. Sam's gonna take it. It's exactly 350. Yes. Wait, what was your guess? 400, and then who else had 350? 351. Sam's gonna take it. If it's exactly 350. Yes.

Yes. 368.9 hours. Whoa, whoa, cool. The guest gets into the Showcase Showdown. Great. This is the bad news is that the Showcase Showdown is the podcast, which sucks. You have to now do the podcast.

Aw man, I was playing on Dippin'. I was outta here.ippin'. I was out of here. It's a great game. It's my favorite game. I love it. Baldur's Gate 3? More than Ocarina of Time, Breath of the Wild. People say it's like Dungeons & Dragons. It is, yeah. This is the thing, and for me, I like turn-based combat.

For some people, turn-based combat is like a huge hurdle to get over. But I think even if you don't like turn-based combat at all. It's turn-based. Turn-based, yeah. Even if you don't like turn-based combat, just crank the difficulty down to story mode and just play it for the story,

because the story and the role-playing is so engaging. Incredible level of writing, great voice acting. I'm afraid to hear what honey popping is. I don't think I do want to know. But what was your second most played? Probably FTL or Stardew Valley. FTL is that little kind of 8-bit game where you're like a spaceship and it's like open universe.

It's a rogue-like basically you're piloting like, you're basically piloting a version of the Star Trek Enterprise through a bunch of different star systems and trying to survive. I gotta tell you, your hat is the most appropriate hat I've ever seen you wear. I'm wearing, for our audio listeners,

I'm wearing a corny hat. This is from our friends at the Dynasty Typewriter. And it advertises their popcorn. But yeah, it is very on brand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can get one of those. What the fuck? Well, you didn't talk to me enough. Yeah. Looks like it's missing. It needs a string, right?

Does it need a string? It should have one of those strings. It looks like it needs a string. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. This guy needs a string. Do you like put stuff under there? No, but I could Cigarettes are back

Honestly, I think it's kind of embarrassing to wear without the string, but I mean, you can keep wearing it. I think the Dynasty typewriter is pretty good merch, honestly, so I'm not going to take a swipe at them for not having a string in that. Oh my god. Can't be mean to the comedy theater. They're always so upfront and good about everything, comedy theaters. It's true, it's true.

The thoughts of the Earth run these facilities. They're doing God's work. Exactly. No advantages taken of anyone. Oh, right, yeah. All the money you're owed is always just given to you. We know how dealing with these venues works. Jimmy is tentatively staring at the seat.

Maybe Jimmy is waiting for you, Mitch, to play the drop so we can get on with the episode. Oh. I gotta be honest with you, I don't think Jimmy knows the drop. I think she was waiting for that pat. Yeah, she was waiting for that pat. The little permission pat. Yeah.

The permission pat. Very cute. Now, I'll give the permission to you, Wags, to play the drop. Well, I don't play the drop. I'll take that. All right, Emma, hit him with the drop. I didn play the drop I don't want to say I get a permit you can remove your hand from the box and you die it's in the box pain

Dune Man is here. Mitch is being annoying. Dune available. Dune Boy available for a limited time. I'm Dune Boy. Wiper's being annoying. I was wondering if there was some logic behind it. No! Okay. Enough. Ooh. That was pretty good. I didn't love Dune II, so they all got mad at me. Or not that mad at me, I don't know. I think that the definitive Dune is the sci-fi miniseries.

My dad has said that he really likes the sci-fi miniseries that I've never seen. A fucking, I can swear, right? Yeah, you can swear. Oh yeah, you can say anything. Yeah, the Dune miniser series is like a book on tape where they were like, hey, the book was really good. What if we just took no artistic freedoms with it?

Right, sure. And just kind of did the book? And it's like, oh yeah, that's a great idea. It's kind of like that, I think the Hitchhiker's Guide had like a BBC like audio, like a radio series that was basically the same. It was like a transcript of the book, but just acted out, yeah.

Yeah. Sometimes that's a good thing to do. Right. That's the smart thing. I want, I gotta, I was so, so on, I liked Dune 1 more than I liked Dune 2. Yeah, which is a fair stance. But I don't know, everyone went crazy about it,

it's Casey's favorite movie maybe. You've still only seen it once, the one time though. What? I gotta see it again. Yeah, see it again, see it in 70 millimeter IMAX. I'll see it again. crazy about it. It's Casey's favorite movie. You've still only seen it once the one time though. I gotta see it again. See it in 70 millimeter IMAX. I don't think you could see it on 70 millimeter. Wait, really? I think that the run is done. It came out on streaming now.

Yeah, it's on streaming now. Now it looks like it's fall guy for me. Mitch, who sent in the drop? I was just about to read it. We were just getting into other stuff. Hi, Doughboys and Doughgirls. Dune 2 is the best. This drop isn't, but please enjoy anyways. If you're in Seattle, check out my music at call.it.mango and at Headless Bastard. Cheers, Jack.

Wow. Thanks, Jack. Thanks, Jack. You think that has anything to do with the Chris Catan character? The mango? Remember? Mango? I hope that he is making songs about mango. Yeah. Wow. Thanks, Jack. Thanks, Jack. You think that has anything to do with the Chris Catan character?

The mango, remember? The mango. I hope that he is making songs about mango. Yeah. I heard mango's back. Mango's over here. Like cigarettes, mango is back. Mango's back.

You said, Mitch, you said permission Pat earlier. Permission Pat could be a Chris Catan character. Oh, yeah. Just giving people permission. We'd be laughing all over the place. Everyone would be laughing. We'd be having so much fun. Ah, permission Pat. Hey, permission Pat, can I use the copy machine?

Permission granted. Yeah! Yeah! He's just an office guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But different from the characters Pat and the copy machine guy. Right, totally different.

Different between those two. His name is Pat, he mans the copy machine, but he's completely different. It does seem a little confusing that there's the copies guy, Rob Schneider, and Pat. Who played Pat? Julia Sweeney. Julia Sweeney, great comedian. But this guy is a different thing, but named Pat.

All right. I mean, it works. Hey, you know, it could work Can't question success, you know, like true true. You can't question the success of permission Pat Our drops at bird fuck comm our guest today from the whitest kids, you know now streaming free on shout TV Check it out. Sam Brown is here. Hi, Sam. Hi. Hey, thank you for having me. Thanks so much for being here.

What a hoot. So excited. Very, very, that's very exciting news. Yeah. There's always a fear with sketch comic because maybe the shows that they'll fall into a black hole of sorts. That's always the thing.

It's just like, you're making something, and especially if it's on the internet, it's like, oh, well, I guess people will be able to watch this forever. And then just like, oh, wait, no, it's just gone. You asked me, like, where can I watch the Birth of the Boys? I don't know. Where can I get season two of the Birth of the Boys?

I don't know. Good luck to you. Buy a DVD in 2015? Yeah. I don't know where I could find that. You know, like, you're like, there's a period where I was like, if I wanted to watch season four of White-as-Kids, I don't know. I don't know where I could find that. You know, like you're like, yeah. There's a period where I was like, if I wanted to watch season four of White is Good,

I don't know. I don't know what I would do. I could probably figure it out, but it would be like too many phone calls to do it, and I've seen it already. You know? Sure, right. I like that it's for your viewing.

You're like, I don't need to see this again. I've seen it. Yeah. That's great news. That's very exciting. Yeah, I'm very excited. Because also, I mean, we live in the world where it seems like everything is at our fingertips,

and it's so easy to be like, oh, I can watch anything at any time. So it's kind of unique that our show has been kind of gone for so long. Or the only versions of it out there have been these 480p YouTube videos that some random person uploaded. Well, it's great too, because people find it, whatever.

That's how we, with birthday, look, Sam and I have a lot in common. We've been friends for a long time. We'll get into a lot of it. Yeah. But that's, for us too, we always liked when people would pirate it and put it up, because it's like, all right, people lot of it. Yeah. But that's for us, too. It was like, we always liked when people would pirate it and put it up, because it's like, all right,

people are seeing it at least. But Nick and I have talked about this before. It's like, back in the day where you're like, I did a comedy. Like, I did a video for Nissan. It's going to live on the internet forever. Just not true. So much stuff disappeared, which is funny.

Because you got paid like $20 to do it, and now it's gone. So like there was no real plus like, oh, at least here's this work that I did, even though it sucks and it's a commercial. This will be my calling card for years. Yes, yeah. Even though the Nissan Juke Scott Geerner directed, not bad, it was good.

I'm sure it was a good spot. I probably saw it at some point. I will say that the, that, but ads are one thing. And you work on that branding content, you're like, oh man, this is embarrassing, whatever people will watch forever, and then it just disappears and you're fine. But when it's something you actually created

and care about, and this is my artistic expression, if I can not be too highfalutin here, it's like, that's just a thing to what you guys are saying. You just want people to be able to see it. You don't really even give a shit about monetizing at a certain point. You just want it to be out there. Totally.

And it's funny too, cause there's like, at that point there's like really two groups of people. There's people who are like fans, who are like actively seeking it out, and they can't find it. And you want them to be able to see it, but you also want to introduce new people to it. And like, and it's crazy that like, you, I remember like when we first got the show,

there's especially like, like there's a point when you're in your early 20s that you're like, especially like, I think for us, when things were a little different, it was like, all you have to do is get on TV, get on one of the 200 cable channels. Right. And then you're set. Yeah. You've done it. Yeah, take off. All you have to do is get on TV, get on one of the 200 cable channels, and then you're set.

You've done it. You're there. Yeah, yeah. That was interesting for, we felt the same way too when you're like, oh, TV's dying. It was interesting to see. Interesting to experience that firsthand. But like, yeah, so then you do it and you realize like, oh, like, you know, like there's plenty of stuff that like makes it to a level and then just goes away.

And then it's been interesting to have, you know, to have, to actually like live through this thing where you're like, Oh, people it's, you know, to go through that period where there was a point where we were a show for young people. We were on Fuse, which was like, you know, like the 30 seconds to Mars channel, basically. And it's like young emo kids were like, oh, we know you guys. Yeah. And then to go through that period

where those kids all grew up. And all of a sudden, young people were like, I don't know who the fuck you are. Right. And then, but to actually have to still get people coming up to you and young people coming up to you and being like, hey, I just watched all your stuff and are messaging you online and being like,

yeah, I really liked it. It's a really cool thing. And to know that not everything is equal in that way and to actually like be like, oh, it's okay for me to be proud of this thing. Sure, yeah. Right. Yeah, because you always are dealing with it being like,

oh, it's not enough people have seen it or something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, and I get that for sure. But like still having those people who are like, hey, I just discovered it and it's good. Like even like people that we're like friends with, like people here in LA that we're friends with, will be like, hey, I actually just watched your show

for the first time, and this sketch was really funny. I was like, yeah, man. Where the fuck have you been? You didn't think I was funny till now? Oh, okay. Wow, okay. I liked your Channel 101 show. I mean, for those Fuse kids to see, you know, their band leader go from, you know, like

an emo guy to the Joker. I mean, it's kind of crazy wise. Yeah, really. There are cool emo, and then now, all of a sudden, he's the Joker. I mean, it's kind of crazy wise. Yeah, really. There are cool emo, and then now, son, he's the Joker. He's sending fish packages of fish to people, fish heads. Do you know, for a second, I thought you were making some analogy about Trevor. Oh my God, no, no, God. Because he went from this, he's 30 seconds to Mars, one second, and then the next second, he's the Joker. And I was like, what are you talking about?

I guess. Trevor Moore, the rest in peace, a very funny guy, and a very funny genius that you worked with, and the guy, I knew you the most of all those guys, and I knew that guy just a little bit after you, but then not too much of the other guys. Zach, a little bit, but then no one else, really. But you guys were the LA guys. I'm the important one. That's why you're here. That's why you're here. That's why you're with the Nobles. Can

we talk about, because you're here in LA now, but you are from Sandwich Mass. Sandwich, Massachusetts. Yeah. Sounds like a, sounds like a Mitch Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. I, I have, my parents shared a Cape house and sandwich mass. I've told you about sandwich mass. That's right. Yeah. You've forgotten and you made the similar jokes. I'm also eating by the way.

What are you eating? Raisin and a peanut. Oh, fun. Nice. One of the classic duo, raisin and a peanut. And those are just, you just kind of grafted them together between your fingers to make it into one bite. How's it tasting? of grafted them together between your fingers to make it into one bite. How's it tasting?

Grafted it together between your fingers? Yeah, like you kind of smooshed them. You made a little sandwich out of it. I just picked them up. I mean, yeah. Right, but you had the way you were holding them. You were like, you kind of made them into a hybrid. You were just very surgical. It seems like you were making me like a monster hands, which I have anyways. So now I don't, now I have anyways. So now I'm subconscious.

I gotta hide my hands. I read this article years ago and the title was, the title was so good that I was like, I wish I had the means to buy the rights to this and write an adaptation for it because the title was porno machete murder. And it was about this guy who like went on a rampage. It was on the news.

Like this was like 15 years ago who- It'll be your autobiography. It was a- Oh, that title's so good. like this was like 15 years ago who... It's gonna be your autobiography. It was a... ALL LAUGHING Oh, that title's so good. What do I gotta do to make that my autobiography? ALL LAUGHING It was a guy who was like, there's a term

for the kind of men who like don't act in a lot of pornos, and they just are like kind of around. And sometimes if there's like a scene that needs multiple men, they'll get one of them and pay 50 bucks, in the same way that one of us would appear in a Nissan Juke ad in like 2010. It's that equivalent. Would they be like a porn actor? Yes.

Or would they be like an extra? They were like an aspiring porn actor who would sometimes get some opportunities to perform. Anyway, there was this one guy who was just like, called a mope. His name, he called mope? Everyone was called a mope, and then he actually was- Isn't his name, he called Mope? Everyone was called a mope, because they mope around the set. Oh.

These guys just kind of mope around the set, hoping to get cast in something, and they don't ultimately, you know, work sporadically. It sounds like these guys are not like, doing it for the money or the career, but for the access to porn actresses. I'm sure that's a huge part of it. That's why they're willing to, you know, just sort of lurk around for the hopes of porn actresses. I'm sure that's a huge part of it. That's why they're willing to just sort of lurk around

for the hopes of getting 50 bucks for the end of Game Game Scene or something. So it's like Susser with coming to our lunches with us. Yeah, Susser, right, exactly. Who actually came to our Irv's Burgers meal. Yeah, it was like, it's all right. I was like, whatever, we'll get into how it was. The story is amazing.

The titular murder happens as one of these guys ends up having, one of these mopes ends up having some success because he kind of looks enough like Obama to be in the Neyland Palin spoof. And so he has a prominent role for the first time. He's in Neyland Palin as Obama, but he has a lot of psychological issues and at a certain point takes a machete

and goes after and hacks a bunch of people and then dies suicide by cop. It's really brutal. But the reason I brought this up. Fucking Obama man. Wouldn't happen under Biden. I'm the one guy who likes Biden not Obama. But the-

The Biden porn actor's great. Yeah, that guy's a pro. Been around forever. The reason I brought that up is you saying monster hands put in my head, because this is the thing I talked to Eva about, Eva Anderson, about when we were reading this article, is like, there was one of these mopes

who called himself a monster. Of course, by the way, Eva has read this before. Probably sent it to me. Yeah, most likely. Anyway, there was one of these guys who had his gimmick as a mope when he got in a porn scene is he would wear the Hulk hands and he'd be like, monster hands.

He's like fucking. I need a gimmick, I need a gimmick. So me saying monster hands remind you of this very obscure thing from a porn murder story that you read a lot. Well just the phrase monster hands made me think of that specifically. I'm sorry for that tangent.

I thought it was very interesting. For What's Going On, that talk show thing that I did, I went on a porn set. I remember this. And it was pretty wild to be there. It was crazy. How did it smell? You know what?

Not that bad. I remember they were like, we're on the set of a new movie. And I was like, the Avengers? It was like when it was and then I pulled off my blindfold and there were two people fucking in front of me. Which was insane. I mean, you can see, I don't know how edited down it is in, it's online, the pilot's online.

It never happened. Russell Brand got a great talk show instead brand X brand X check Oh check out brand X well deserved, right? Well, his policies have gotten better and better so But we have a good time again. Then yeah that day we were I was on a porn set and it was interesting there were like I'd say it was like half and half people who were like really with it and like intelligent

and great and then people who seemed like they were dealing with like it was hellish basically is kind of the breakdown. Yeah, maybe didn't really love the work or you know. I think it's a tough, I mean it's entertainment industry which is already so bad and on top of top of it, it's porno. It's the most exploitative version of it. Yeah. Anyways, bump it when I'm.

Just really the thing is, is like, you can't get away from it being the entertainment industry. You know, if it's like any set. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like still similar, I mean, I would still buy craft service for a lot of it. Uh. Wait, craft service is even stickier than normal?

Okay, so you're from Sandwich Mass. Yeah. You were saying before we started that for a long time there were actually not like great sandwiches or was not like a signature sandwich shop in Sandwich Mass. There was this place called Sandwiches Sandwiches, but like, meh.

Like not great. Interesting. When, after like White-h. Like not great. I, when, after like, White-as-Kids came out, I remember one summer I went home and they had a big like, 4th of July festival and they actually had like, a sandwich competition. And that was like, the first time I was like, oh, they're really going after this sandwich thing.

And there was this cafe that opened up after I went to college called Cafe Chu that had great sandwiches. Great name. Ooh, I don't know if I even know Cafe Chu. Cafe Chu. You know like downtown sandwich where the grocery store is? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. It opened up in that plaza. Look, I'll tell you what sandwiches got. I'm going to tell you my memories of it. Please. Great mini golf, it did. Oh, yeah. And then I think there was Evans Pizza. I live right by that mini golf. It did. Oh, yeah. And then I think there was Evans Pizza.

I lived right by that mini golf. No, sway. Oh, wild. All right. That's where my mom lives. I hope she doesn't mind me doxing her. But if you want to go see my mom's house, it's like a mile away from there.

Wow. My mom's house is not far from the Addams house. I don't mean to dox her either. Mums get so mad about doxing. He's going to stay quiet and not really. I'm not going to dox my own mom. You know, mad about doxing, you know? He's gonna stay quiet and not really. I'm not gonna dox my own mom, you know, you fucking mind? Oh, you're the good kid! You're gonna dox my mom? Oh, mom's boy!

No, I'm gonna dox my mom! You're gonna give away your mom's address! Kinda close to a 24-hour fitness, but whatever, that could go anywhere in the country! Alright, I don't mean to dox my dad, but the Bertucci's near the Blue Hill Cemetery might be there. I'm not trying to dox him, but he might be near there. Wait, is Bertucci's this pizza place that had the bocce ball court in it? Wait, maybe? That is a great question.

It was like late 80s and early 90s that it came around. Yeah. I mean, it was like late 80s and early 90s that it came around. Yeah, I think I went to one when I was a kid and that was like the first time I was like, I saw a girl and was like, hey, I think you're cute. Oh yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

And it's like, I mean, it's funny. It was like, where are you going? I'm like, to get pizza. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, what are you doing? Oh, I'm going home to my house that's like an hour away from your house. Oh, what are you doing? Oh, I'm going home to my house that's like an hour away from your house.

Oh, cool. Goodbye forever. Goodbye. Yeah. I'm 12, awesome. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I think that's very,

that takes a lot at 12 years old to do that. Sure. I think I was very afraid. It was my birthday, so hell yeah. My guy. It's my day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bocce ball also, was that the thing that whitey bulger, like, isn't it like, the didn't mobsters, I think it was Bocce ball. It's like lawn bowling.

It's like you have the little white ball and you have to throw that out there and then you get the other balls the closest. Do you have a thing with bocce ball? Is there like a catching thing with it or no? No, I think it's like... It's high lie, I think you're thinking. Oh, high lie is the gangster.

High lie is the thing that like... They say never bet on high lie because it's always rigged. Yeah, yeah. That was, I think, the Irish mafia got a hold of high lie. Yeah, right. Destroyed it. Yeah, bocce ball is... You know what got ahold of the pyloi, I believe. Destroyed it. Yeah, bocce ball is, you know what, maybe they did have some bocce ball at Bertucci's. I could see that.

Yeah. It is kind of like a fun, they give you a little dough when you came in. Why is he went there? Why I saw a failing version of it. That's right, we reviewed Bertucci's. And yes, I remember that being as part of their history. They either had the courts at some locations

or was just like a, yeah, I remember. You guys were so ready to hate Bertucci's. Well, that was also like, we were, Emma, when we were going to Bertucci's, that was like the end of a tour, right? That was the same trip as Foxwood. It's Foxwood's tour. Yes, it was our last stop.

Yeah, so we were fucking tired. I officially had COVID unbeknownst to anyone. You did have COVID, we didn't know for sure yet. We didn't know for sure. I was like, I'm sick, I'm testing negative, and like, it's fine, and then I had COVID the next day. It's like, because it's just like, what, are we going to cancel the show that a bunch of people paid

money for? You're testing negative. It's like, I guess we'll fucking do it. And then, of course, the next day, you actually have COVID. Yeah, you killed like four people. And me and Carl are getting on a plane. It's fine. It's fine.

Whatever. I'm the guy who gave it to Trump. It's just our show at Foxwoods. There's only going to be like a bunch of old people there. Yeah. I'm the guy. I remember, Mr. President, so nice to meet you, I gave it to Trump. Yeah, that's right. And he, that's when he finally got it.

I don't know if I had it at that point. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't, but it had gone downhill like a lot of other, well, D'Angelo was still doing well, but- I had a great time at D'Angelo. Bertucci, they didn't like, but they also were hungover from Foxwood's, a couple of the guests, not you. It was the last meal on the tour.

It was like, there was reasons that it did bad, I feel like. Did you grow up with Papageno's, like going to Papageno's? This is another one, and this one makes me mad because we went to Papageno's. I thought it was a this one makes me mad because we went to Papageno's, I thought it was a good experience and him and John Hodgman shit all over it. We went to, here's the thing, we went to Papageno's in Western Mass

and it was like, this was not the typical Papageno's experience. Reviewing that individual experience, I think we were fair. I am willing to give Papageno's another crack because that's the same ownership as D'Angelo or as Birtucci is the same owner. Because D'Angelo I loved. I had a great time with D'Angelo.

I have a Papageno story that just unlocked a memory in my head. So Papagenos was like, had this all-you-can-eat night. Did you ever have like? Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you were banned, right? I think it was like Tuesday nights or something. It was like, me and all my skateboard friends,

it was like a thing. We would like go every Tuesday, we'd call it ace and we would go there. And I remember there was one night where, you know, and we'd buy, pay four bucks to get your plate and keep getting pizza. And one week I was like, how much is the most that anyone's had?

And someone was like, I think the record was like 14, someone was saying, 14 slices. And they're big slices. I think it's like they cut the pizzas up into six slices. Wow. Yeah, big slices, yeah. And I was like, next week I'm gonna do 15. And I wore a lab coat I bought from Building 19.

This is like the most Massachusetts I've ever been. Alrighty, Building 19 is a very Massachusetts store, which was basically just a wholesale store, right? Yeah, it's like, but it's like, There was food in it too, right? You know like Big Lots? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like imagine if Big Lots had its own Big Lots, but it's like, there was food in it too, right? You know like Big Lots? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like imagine if Big Lots had its own Big Lots, but it was huge.

It was like, if all the Big Lots around the country had this giant Big Lots, Yes. Called Building 19. Big Lots almost times Costco. I mean, it wasn't really, Yeah, yeah. But it wasn't really grocery,

a grocery store, right? No, no, it was, but, yeah. There was food there. It was a very strange place. It was food there. It was a very strange place. It was very strange. It was quirky. It was funny. And the name sounds like a dystopian sci-fi

thriller, like Building 19. It's like that sounds very distinct. Bought some really weird stuff there. If you bought anything there that was electronic, it guaranteed would not work. Uh, if you, like I bought like clothing wise, like one of the things I bought before was a prison jumpsuit.

Wow. Which is, it was the only prison jumpsuit that they had there. And it was one of these things where it was like, oh, did someone like escape from the prison? Right. And change it? And they were just like, what do we do with this? I'll put it on the rack. did someone like escape from the prison and change? And they were just like, what do we do with this?

I'll put it on the rack. You know, like. Or maybe got into a lab coat and put the, hung the thing up himself. But yeah, I bought this like 70s lab coat there. And so I went to All You Can Eat, had the 70s lab coat, and I ate 15 slices of pizza.

Wow! And that gets a doughboy salute. Oh. We've never, I've never saluted anyone in my life. In fact, I think this is stolen foul word. This is unprecedented, the doughboy salute. This is the first doughboy salute. Okay, cool.

We've never served, but we're saluting our guest. And we met like, the Hamburglar or something, we'd do the same thing, but this is big. I thought you were about to say, we met Hamburglar and we didn't even give him a, and I was like, whoa, you met Hamburglar? Yeah, the motherfucker stole our burgers. It's thought.

Hamburglar was cool. It was cool, he was a cool guy. Very down to earth. He should have a big head out of... I mean, he literally has a big head on him, but that's not here nor there. He opened our eyes to a lot of the prison system and stuff like that. Yeah, he was really crazy.

He was talking to the carceral estate. I was like, oh, wow. Funny that they made a cape part of the costume. They're like, let's throw a cape on there, right? I think bring it back. Bring it back. Can you imagine Jared Fogel with a cape on? I think he would look in prison. In prison.

Hey, guys. Going pretty good as being a convicted pedophile in prison. Got this cape now. Maybe it would be good to give to like the big, like the, you know, like the big bads of, you know, like your Jareds or, you know, people like that to have the, the big bads get the cape. Only the most notorious infamous villains are ones who get caped.

But then that does the thing. I think that's making them look cool. Yeah. Like if you put like a- But does it look, does the cape look cool? Yeah, I don't know. I think he'd definitely have a thing, too, where he'd be like, uh, someone hung themselves with their cape again.

Right. Oh, he gave a cape to Epstein. Guess what he did. Guards were weirdly away from their post? All right, sure. The guards are wearing capes. Yeah. Wait, so you ate 15 slices of pizza.

What were the after effects? Uh, oh, horribly sick on the ride home. Oh, man. To eat 15 slices of pizza, there's that thing of like, it takes like a half hour for you to feel full. Sure. So you have to just like, get it in before that half hour, you know, and then your stomach's like,

you messed up. Like, you're like, I was like on the car ride home, like I gotta sit in the front seat and like, oh. Did you, did you barf at all or no? I don't think I barfed. No, I don't think I did, but I mean. That's pretty, that's impressive. Honestly, another Doughboy salute.

Yeah. Two, the first two. Wow. And also I guess we should say to all of our military listeners, Two, the first two. Wow. And also I guess we should say to all of our military listeners, we should give a Doughboy salute as well. They can tell us to stop doing it. Thank you for surveying.

Thank you. I, Luke, I've talked about this before, Wags, but Luke Michaels is my, one of the poos, an old college friend. Poos? Poov? Rich has multiple friends named Poov. Nickname is Poov.

Is this the Poov I met? At Foxwood? What does poov stand for? Did you, which Poov did you mean? I think it is the Poov you met at Foxwood. That's the Poov I met, okay. Is that a last name? Luke Michaels. No, I don't know really what it meant.

The etymology of Poov. It's like a nickname, Poov. Sorry, I'm starting to obsess about this whole poof. It's a nickname. I've heard this for 10 years. I've never gotten clarity on who poof is and how the name comes from. I'll clear it up later, but he ate a,

what's the grande meal at Taco Bell? And he did, I think he did four hard soft tacos, I'm sorry, four hard tacos, four soft tacos, two like bean and cheese burritos, a Mexican pizza and nachos Belgrande, it was truly a feat. And he got it all down and then on the ride home, he barfed on like when we were like back on campus, he threw up.

It's definitely like a battle there. Yeah, yeah. Like you're using your, you're concentrating as hard as you can to not do that. Yeah, I made it through, I think I did everything, maybe I did except for the nachos. I don't know, I got close. Yeah, I don't do a lot of stunt eating,

but I do remember when I was in college and I was also like running a ton and I was like super lean and so I just had like, I had both the tail end of teenage metabolism but also like just like really getting a lot of physical activity. I did one time take down two four by fours and two orders of fries from, from an out burger.

So two quad, two quadruple burgers. Yeah. That metabolism was about to take off. Yeah. About to leave you for good. It is a funny thing where when you do that, when you're like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna climb this mountain. Like, it is such a life lesson of being on the other side of that

and being like, why did I do that? Yes, 100%. What did I get out of this experience? Completely poignant, yeah. Well, okay, because I want to get into this too, but I should go back to sandwich Massachusetts. Evans Pizza, I remember getting a lot. Pizza by Evans.

Sorry. Here's the thing, Massachusetts, there's a lot of like, like the, like, when you say like Massachusetts pizza, it doesn't really mean anything except if you're from there, which is like a very like, I'd say a Greek style pizza. If you want like, if you're somewhere and you're like, oh, I missed that Massachusetts pizza that was just like a good slice of pizza,

not a great, but just good, solid. Go to a Greek restaurant and order pizza, order cheese pizza. I like a Greek pizza quite a bit. And Pizza by Evan is a good Greek pizza. There's a few spots in Quincy that you haven't, you'll try them in time. Yeah. It's closed.

Nick. Is it closed? Oh, no way. I think that shortly after like, into the 2000s it closed. Oh, that's such a bummer. It was so good. Yeah.

The fish hatchery. The fish hatchery. My mom lives right by the fish hatchery. Does she really? Oh yeah. Is this an actual hatchery or is this a restaurant with a name, the fish hatchery? No, no, it was an actual fish hatchery.

Wow. When I was a kid, went there on a field trip, tried to pet a fish, got bit. Wow. What kind of fish? I don't know. You know, it's a fish hatchery, so they have these like tanks

that are just like overloaded with fish. Yeah, sure. They're like, they're not even tanks. They're like, it's like a little like manmade piece, like pool thing. Yeah. Just filled with, and so you can just reach in, and I was like, oh, I could pet a fish.

And then it was like, oh no, the fish would bite me if I did that. Wow. My godbrother, to who owns the fat cat, Neil Kelly, fell into the fish hatchery. Oh. He like jumped out basically, but yeah, he fell into the fish hatchery. Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the god sister, Sarah, who was, she had an appendix situation, but she's doing better.

Oh, glad to hear that. But appendix rupture, which is very scary, but she's doing better. Oh, glad to hear that. But appendix rupture, which is very scary, but she's doing good. Sarah, glad you're doing well, Sarah. God sister in the ghost world. But that's the family who we had the sandwich house with, which also is like, I'm so mad at my parents, they got rid of their half of it,

and it's like the nicest house. It's just a cottage, but it's just such a, it's right by the beach and it's great. And those houses are worth like a billion dollars now when it was like, uh, like the, the property has gone up so much. I mean, if they haven't like washed away by now, because that's the other thing is like, like, yeah, like those beaches are, are running for the ocean right now. Yeah. Yeah. I know climate change wise. I know you don't believe in it, but. Yeah, I have some doubts.

Oh, I didn't know you guys were down. Oh, cool. By the way, I have a shit, this is Rogan? Yeah. Oh, awesome. We wish we want those numbers. I know, I love that Rogan Yeah. Rogan's Spotify contract. I have a question that you'll probably will be dumb.

You'll think this is stupid, but after the fish bit you, could you breathe underwater? Yeah. Holy shit. Wow. Yeah, that's the kind of weird thing about me. Not a dumb question at all. I don't know, yeah. That's how it works.

It's revolutionary. Yeah. Oh my God. I know, yeah. That's how it works. It's revolutionary. Yeah. Oh my God. I've got fish strength. Which is, fish are actually not as strong as people, so. You're just much weaker. It's kind of a bummer. Mitch, let Jemmy bite you.

Get that incredible sense of smell. Yeah, right, I don't want pink dick. You're fine with gray dick. Hold on, we We got some more. There was that Beehive place. Beehive? Yeah. Beehive was like there was a couple restaurants where when you were like 14 that you would

get a job washing dishes at. One was the Beehive and the other one was Bayberry's. And I got a job dish washing at Bayberry's. What's Bayberry's? It's like a diner? It's like the Beeh was Bayberry's. And I got a job dishwashing at Bayberry's. What's Bayberry's? It's like a diner? It's like the Beehive kind of place. It was just like a restaurant.

Just a standard restaurant, just an American restaurant. Yeah. Like, I was probably getting so mad because I'm pulling references from like 20 years ago. But the Christmas tree shop, a baseball card store, all this stuff was great there. Christmas tree shop closed down. Like, as a chain.

That's so sad. And the Christmas tree shop on Cape Cod, the one that's like right over the bridge. Yeah. This is like horrible podcasting, I know, that we're like, no, let's talk about the Christmas tree shop. No, people love hyper local geography discussion.

It's great. The largest, what do you call it? Like thatch? Like straw roof, I think in America. Yeah, yeah. It's a big, huge straw roofed I think in America. Yeah, yeah. It's a big, huge straw roofed building. Why was it called a Christmas tree shop? And a big windmill?

Well, because they sold Christmas shit all year long. Yeah, all year long. Wow, okay. But the funny thing about Christmas shop is like, we're talking about big lots. It's like a big lots, but like a step up. Yeah. Okay. Like it's still like kind of like shit, like cheap shit, like crap.

But like a step up from like your, you know, like kind of like fell off the back of a truck kind of shop. For sure, yeah. If you went in there, there's like all trinkets and Christmassy stuff. It is, it's cool. You would have, you would have. I'm sure I would have loved it.

I wanna get, I was looking for a Christmas you shopped t-shirt recently because that's a great logo. That would rule. I- I- A sleigh with the Christmas tree on it. Nice font. I love that. I'm very sad I had no idea that they shut down.

Yeah, they shut down. Even that main one is- The chain I think is done. Wow. It's bullshit, wigs. Yeah. Fucking Biden again. What's everything coming through?

Yeah. No, no, we're pro-Biden, right? Oh yeah. Oh yeah, we like Biden. Yeah, I tell you why I we're pro-Biden, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we like pro-Biden. We like Biden, but we don't believe in climate change. Oh, but like the porn actors, but yeah, that's how I do all my voting, is off of the porn parody version of the candidate. Who's got a bigger hog?

Yeah. I don't know, I've run low on sandwich references. Oh, the first time I had Buffalo Wings, I think was in Cape Cod. What is that place? I forget the name of the place. I'll get the name of the place. Did you ever, you were there summers,

did you jump off the Scorton Creek? I certainly did. Or the boardwalk? Yeah, I jumped off that little bridge. There was a bridge you could jump off. Near like the Nissan dealership, not far from it, like down the road. So you did the Skorton Creek.

OK, Skorton Creek, yeah. Yeah, that's the for real one. There's the boardwalk, which is like this, it's not like a boardwalk in the New Jersey sense. It's like a, I'd say like four feet wide, like wooden slat boardwalk that runs over Salt Marsh to get you from a parking lot to a beach for about like a half mile.

It's really nice. That's awesome. But there's a part where it goes over a little creek and it's like kind of a summer tradition to jump off of that. But that's like the touristy thing to do. The cool kid thing to do is go to Skorton Creek, which is actually on Route 6.

Wow. Hell yeah. Uh, and then the even like one step above that is by there, there is a, um, like a fisherman's landing kind of thing. Yeah. And we used to, uh, do the thing where we would take out one person's car, go out there with like

a bunch of rafts and then the whole Creek, it's tidal. So it's running out to the, the, you know, the bay and, uh, time it right. So that like the tide was going out and then have someone else's car at the other end at the beach, and then you just like float through the tide, do like a rafting trip, like for like a couple hours. There's one time that I did it. Beers and stuff. Yeah, beers and stuff.

If you timed it wrong, your car would end up underwater because the way the tide came in. But there was one time that I did that where it was, you know, like in that like in my 20s drinking a lot. And I got so drunk that by the time we got to the end, this is a disgusting story, I'm sorry, because the eating 15 slices of pizza was so flattering. But got to the end, and basically what I did was,

it was the night before I was drinking vodka, and I woke up and my friends were like, hey, we're going to Skorton Creek. And I was like, oh, I got this thing of orange juice, and then just poured the rest of the vodka into the orange juice container. Yeah. I'm happy that I never have to have days

like that ever again. Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah. No, that's very much like, I don't drink anymore and it's just sort of like, I've done it. Yeah, it's cool. I feel like I reached the ceiling of how cool it could be. Yeah. We were talking with our buddy, Stevan Heck, about this,

who, you know, and I don't know where he is with drinking right now, but had taken a break from it. And I, at the same time, I'd taken a break from it and was like, how frustrated we are that you just feel better. Cause you're just like, it sucks that this just works. I just if I stop drinking my body is like in my brain are telling me Yes, don't put this poison into your body anymore, but then you're kind of pissed off. They're just like ah, it's this fucking simple I just don't do this one. Yeah, I'm also like like yeah like I could oh I make better decisions. Yeah, right exactly. Yeah

Better decisions? Yeah, right, exactly, yeah. Fuck. But so this, speaking of bad decisions, so I drank the whole thing on the raft, and then afterwards, everyone was like going to the beach, and I was like, I'm just gonna sit in the car and just sat in my parked car.

And then it was like, you know, like that like concentrating on not throwing up kind of thing. And I remember there was these like two, I don't know, 14 year old girls walking by and it was like young enough that I was like, they're not gonna understand the pain that I'm in. Just when my body was like, oh, you've got to throw up right now, man.

Oh, no. And so they were like right in front of me. And it was like, it was just that kind of thing of like, oh, like mom's home. Like, I can't show that I'm in the state that I'm in. Right. Threw up. This is so bad.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Threw sorry. I'm sorry. Threw up, caught it in my mouth and swallowed. Oh, geez. That's gnarly. That's a bad cue. Which only puts it up, which only gave me the amount of time

to put it off till they passed. And then just threw up everywhere. You pulled what Javier Bardem would have liked you to do on Arrakis. Don't let it out. Yeah. Don't puke, so points for that. Hey, I do like Dune 2.

Casey's right. It is the best movie. You son of a guy. I guess I salute you once again for not scarring those two 14 year old girls for life. Because I do have the opposite story, which is I was at a college party and it was just in the dorms and I was fucking hammered.

I was drunk to the point where people were like, hey man, look out for this guy. And I was fucking hammered. And then I'm walking out of the party, I'm finally leaving the party, there's this girl I like that we've been talking and we're walking and we're holding hands. I was like, oh shit, I'm walking out of the party, I'm finally leaving the party. There's this girl I like that we've kind of been talking and we're like, we're walking and we're like holding hands. I was like, oh shit, I'm drunk, but I'm like enough.

We're like, oh, this is good, maybe this leads somewhere. And we get to the point where it's like, I'm- I can only imagine how wet that hand was. If you grab it. We get to the point where we say goodbye and I'm like, you know, whatever, go separate directions. I take, like, three steps. So she's not outside of earshot.

I, like, fart so loudly. Because I just, like, my body's cannot get to go. You farted? I farted so loudly. She definitely heard it. And then also, as I'm doing that, I look up ahead. There's two frat guys in a car,

and they're looking over at me. I make eye contact with one of them and then just puke. I just puke at him. Dude, what'd you do after that? I probably went back to my dorm room and jacked off. I don't know. You didn't have to go that far. I meant in the...

The frat guys have, they drive by your dorm room I don't know. You didn't have to go that far. I was just, I meant in the... The frat guys have like, they drive by your dorm room and see you jacking off a window. Make eye contact again. No, I remember I made eye contact with a guy and he made a horrified look when he saw me puke. And I couldn't even, I was just projectile puking like onto a bush. I had no control over my body at that point. Same, you were asking...

Hindsight's 2020, but you should have just been like, yep. Exactly. Locked away with confidence. Right, right, right. Sam, you were asking me- hindsight's 20-20, but you should've just been like, yep. Exactly. Locked away with confidence. Right, right, right. Yeah, that was me. Sam, you asked what he did after that. I think the answer was you dropped out of college. Yeah.

Changed your name? Yeah. To puke fart. There was a time where I was out in New York City for a couple months doing this thing on the road and then got back to New York City. It was like 25 or something at this point and went to this crazy party that had a keg in Brooklyn, which is like a normal thing if you're like outside of an urban area. Sure. And I remember I did a keg stand that was like so long that the party all started

like chanting for me. I love that. They put me down, I immediately threw up and then immediately a girl came up to me and was like, hey, that was you that did that keg stand? It worked. Wow, it worked. And we like made out.

Wow! Wow! That's horrifying for her. Hindsight didn't chew gum after. Right, right, right. I was like, oh, I was not a gentleman about this. Yeah. You had the opposite Weiger effect, too.

It's great. Cause I was like, yeah, that was me. Yeah, you owned it. Yeah. Me? Life lesson. Never peed from drinking. Is that true? yeah, that was me. Yeah, you owned it. Yeah. Me? Life lesson. Never puked from drinking. Is that true?

No, I barfed. I did this thing. When's the last time you puked from drinking? Ooh, I mean, probably hangovers more so. Yeah, like actually puking from drinking from you and me. And when I was in Montreal for- 10 plus years or something. Just for laughs, I told you this,

that I had drank so much whiskey and it was morning and when we were leaving, it was like the sun was up and I was with, later with Harris, but I woke up and I remember puking and shoving the puke down the drain with my hand. And then- Wait, what? I was like puked into the sink in the hotel.

You didn't puke in the toilet in the sink. And I was like pushing the puke. It was probably also like noontime and I felt like it was like 7uked into the sink in the hotel. You didn't puke in the toilet in the sink. And I was like pushing the puke. It was probably also like noontime and I felt like it was like 7 a.m. And then Harris did hook me up. He brought me water the next day. He like say, I was, I like definitely had alcohol poisoning. But besides that, it was when I did

the brain drain challenge in college. Yeah, sure. I funneled, and I didn't call it that, but I funneled six beers at once and I got it down. I got it down and then I puked it up and it was cold coming back up. I think you have told me this before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was pretty gnarly.

I just throw up all the time. Like, if I just like mix something, like sometimes if I was like too drunk and I smoked weed, I would just like be like, nope. Oh yeah, that will get you. That hit me wrong. I got the spins. This is going in a direction.

That's, I mean, I never liked to mix. I think that's why I stopped even doing it. Cause I never, like once you, if you get spins, it's all over. Yeah. But did you ever do dabs? No, I never did dabs. What are dabs?

Emma, you mess with that. Emma's like immediately nodding. I have violently barf from dabs. Yeah, yeah. Wow barfed from dabs. Wow. It will kill you. You can like, it's almost like weed-ode-ing. It's like as close to a weed overdose as you can get. Yeah, yeah.

It's like a dab. Wait, what is it? Is it a thing you put in your mouth or? No, it's like the distillate they put on a nail and you put it in a hot thing and it vaporizes. It looks very drug. Druggy. Yeah, yeah. It's like potheads were sitting around dispensering

and were like, why isn't this more like crack? It should be more like crack. I don't know if I had done that either. But it can hit you wrong. Yeah. And then you've got to throw up. It's just got to happen. Dabs have made me barf when I wasn't drinking beforehand Wow

Dabs alone. That sounds like a true nightmare. Yeah, I don't do them anymore. I was at a cottage in East Ham like a cape. Yeah. And I wasn't drinking. It was like actually a night where I was like, oh, I'm gonna like, you know, like, call my girlfriend at the time and make sure she gets to bed. Yeah. And then I'm gonna start partying and I'm gonna make sure I'm sober and like, like, good boy.

And then, and then I was like, oh, I gotta catch up. Better do a dab, hit me wrong. And I went out to the fire and I like, was just like tunnel vision. And then my brother sat down next to me and started talking to people about bad oysters and hard boiled eggs. And I went, if I have to throw up, where should I throw up?

And he was like, oh, like back in the bushes over there. And I was like, no, I mean right now, and I just threw up in the fire. Everyone was like. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Wow. You are a pro. Thank you. Wow. Also, you said up the Cape, which we say down the Cape, which is- I mean, yeah, that, like, whatever, same difference. Down Cape, up Cape, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was just thinking it's north, but like, yeah, down Cape.

Sure, yeah, yeah. I loved, Sandwich was a great place, Wags. I saw Arachnophobia at the mall there. They had a great arcade. Wow. And we got Orange Julius afterwards to turn it to chains. A lot of fun.

It's so funny, like, you saying, like, Arachnophobia, because I'm, like, picturing, like, all right, this is when we were in the same town together. Yeah. Wow. Probably at that arcade together, the same sort of, sure. Yeah, Ryan Family Amusements.

Yeah, that's the one. Yeah. And Orange Julius was huge. I still love Arachnolus to this day. We did recently. It got a little worse is what you're trying to say. Yeah. I saw Ragnophobia at the Regency 8 in Lakewood, California.

I rented it. Yeah. I saw it on home video. I was too scared of spiders. That's that. For you guys, it's just not as good. There was a cool McDonald's right by there. That sounds okay.

There's a new spider movie coming out and I'm like, oh, they decided to go back to the Ragnophobia thing. That sounds okay. There's a new Spider movie coming out, and I'm like, oh, they decided to go back to the arachnophobia thing. I like that, go back, we need more, I think more Spider movies are a good thing. I thought Eight-Legged Freaks was gonna be a thing, but Eight-Legged Freaks didn't really go anyway. Spider's got too big, I think the new one,

Spider's getting big again too, actually. That's a, you know what, that's a big problem I have with, I love that, I do like the Hobbit movies, but why Lord of the Rings, you know, they have one big, big spider. She-La Hobbit we're talking about. Yeah, exactly, the one big spider. She's a legend. And then by the time you go,

you go into Hobbit and now there's just like big spiders all over the place and elves are just murking them. I'm just like, they, they heightened this too much. Like this is, this is the stakes of the one spider. It's the same problem with Force Awakens versus a New Hope. Okay. It's like destroying five planets with the Starkiller base versus destroying the one planet that you care about, Alderaan in Star Wars.

Starkiller base is sick. But I'm saying, like, the stakes got too big, and so it becomes abstract. And this is a big problem, I think, that sequels and prequels have. Speaking of our show releasing on Shout and everything, it's one of the funny things about Force Awakens is that when we did our show in 2008,

we did a George Lucas sketch of basically it's a child just sending an email to georgelucasataol.com, and it working. And he's saying, the kid says like, I have an idea for a Star Wars movie. And he writes back, meet me in LA in half hour, you know, like that kind of thing. And then like the pitch that the kid has

is to do Star Wars seven. And it blows George Lucas' mind. And then the other pitch is that there's another Death Star. And he's like, oh my God, this is even... So... Hahahaha! We were kind of right there. You were 100% right.

Yes, yeah. But they already blew two up! Hahahaha! It was one of those things where you see it and... Yeah, I couldn't really be into Force Awakens. I was like, oh, we kinda wrote this one already. Right, right, yeah, exactly. And then don't worry, by the end of it,

they put the Death Star on every ship or some bullshit in Rise of Skywalker. Anyways, we don't talk about it. It's like, come up with something else. Yeah, we're not here talking about the Star Wars thing. But spiders. Yeah. I would say, you know, like, you can make a spider the size of a building.

And it's like, OK. But if you made a spider the size of a dog, that's fucking scary. It is scary. It's like, that size? Don't worry about it, Jemmy. Those videos of the Australian people capturing spiders at their house is just horrifying.

It's so scary. Yeah. Yeah. We should have fucking, I know this seems extreme, but we should just nuke Australia. We'll be right back. Australia's having a little bit of a, they're having a renaissance right now.

Really? Really? I mean, they got some good TV. That's it. Really? Yeah. You ever see that Mr. In-Between? No, I haven't seen it.

Great Australian show. And we were talking Louis yesterday. Louis, yeah. You ever see that Mr. In-Between? No, I haven't seen it. Right, Australian. And we were talking Bluey yesterday. Bluey? Yeah. Is that New Zealand? It's New Zealand or Australia, right? Australia. Yeah, Bluey's Australia. It's Bluey's. If you're an adult and you haven't seen Bluey, you're fucking dumb. Wow. I've seen it. I've seen it too. Also, you know that like cooler spot you talked about that like the locals and sandwich go to I want there too actually Doughboys are dumb Yeah, we've done dabs What's the other column from accounts great show oh wow, okay

Frayed that's on HBO Max. You should check that out. That's great. All right. You know what? We won't wipe. They're not gonna get nuked then. Yeah. We'll keep Australia around for a little bit. Yeah. And you know what? We got some listeners down under too. That's true. And hello down under.

We got... Hungry Jax is the right chain down there. Oh, Hungry Jax. Yeah. The other thing, Casey knows what I'm talking about. Australian Survivor. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Aussie Survivor. knows what I'm talking about, Australian Survivor. Yeah, oh yeah. A lot of people say it's better than American Survivor. Australian Survivor is amazing. Well, Hungry Jacks down there is-

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So Route 66 begins construction in 1926. It was finished paving in 1938, and it was built as a road connecting Chicago and Los Angeles, a big, you know, cross-country road route. In 1942, Queen's Burgers opened on Route 66 on what was now Santa Monica Boulevard in West Hollywood, and its original sign, Mitch, was, No lobster, just burgers.

What the hell? I think probably what it was was people approaching the beach were like, oh, I'm gonna get some lobster here, but then it's like, we don't have lobster, we just have beaches, or we just have burgers. And then also, of course, of course, it's a different seafood than what people from the East Coast might expect. It is one of the first roadside burger stands

in the Southland, and in 1970, it got the name Irv's because Irv Gendis bought it and renamed it after himself. Then in 2000, another big imprint on his identity was its current ownership, Sonia Hong, who purchased it. so, you know, she works at the stand at the Santa Monica Boulevard location. She will like write little like, draw little doodles and write little personalized notes on your like paper plate. When she hands you your burgers, she's become like a big local celebrity there. And so as such, the community rallied it when it almost closed permanently in 2018.

It got some new financing via Lawrence Longo of Prince Street Pizza. New business plans started expanding a little bit. And also We Melrose Chef, Armin Peskullian came in and We Melrose, which is like a cool restaurant, cool sandwich shop came in and revamped the menu a little bit. So it's-

That's funny, I didn't know that there was like the fancy, cause I mean, like it was a burger stand. Very much so. It had a lot of, I mean, honestly, this is maybe, I know that they're like franchising it in a way, but like it's maybe the good thing of like, hey, these rich restaurateurs are, are like helping this place out a little bit.

This is the thing. It strikes me to, it strikes to be a little bit less like, hey, this is the opportunistic, we're gonna take this brand and try to expand it and kind of do a mafia bust out on this beloved local icon and instead kind of like, hey, we are from the city, we're within the city, we recognize this as a part of our food culture,

we wanna do what we can using our leverage and our means to preserve it. So it seems like, and I also think Mitch, to your point about franchising, they've not expanded wildly. They have a couple new locations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have this question.

I saw this stuff online and prominently on it, like on Ervs, they say Ervs since 19, what is it? I think it's 1942. 46 is the date. I'm sorry, I might have the date wrong. But they were called Queensburgers. Yes.

And then they got bought and changed to Irv's in 19, what, shouldn't it be since 1970? Isn't it a different restaurant at that point? Yeah, I don't know. You changed the name. Once you change the name, I think the menu remained the same, but I think that- But since then, we've changed ownership and we've changed the menu greatly. Right, right I think that- But since then, we've changed ownership

and we've changed the menu greatly. Right, right. And then like, you know, like, and I'm not, I'm not the year police here. Yeah. But it just seems like it should be since 1970, right? Like, yeah. Either way, even if it's since 1970, you know,

that's 50 years ago at this point. Yeah. So like it's been a part of the city for a long time. And also, like, that's another thing, to your point. That neighborhood, and L.A. has changed so much since, you know, the days of the post-war era, the early post-war era, when it was like, you know, West Hollywood is now its own city. It has its own history. It went through cycles of being like this

historically gay neighborhood and then becoming fully gentrified. It has a completely different cultural identity than it did once then, but this place has remained fixed. And I think its menu kind of locked in time. And I think that's partly why people think of it as so historic. But yeah, I think its current identity is so much informed

by, yes, change of ownership in 1970 and then also 2000. Because Sonya Hong, I think, is so linked to what people think of with hers. See I didn't know that I didn't know that that Sonya Hong was like who who bought it again what when she said 2018? I think 2000 and then there's yeah there's new partners that came in in 2018 around that. That was the thing was I saw it like like like so much of its story is how much it changed ownership. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I didn't know that Sonya Hong worked there and was, like, a part of it before she bought it.

I think that's really cool. Yeah. By the way, Year Police sounds like the directed DVD ripoff of Timecop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is, uh, yeah.

Oh, thanks, Grandma. Yeah. I totally asked for your place for Christmas, and you bought me the VHS. So it was next to Carnasaur and Transmorphers. Yeah. So we went to one of the new-ish locations, which used to be another LA chain we also reviewed

on the show, Mitch, Top Round. Top Round, that Top Round has closed. And like a hermit crab inhabiting a shell, it is now- Top Round is closed altogether? I think there's another location. I could be wrong. I think I live near Top Round. That location is a little doomed.

I'll give you a little history on that location, where I used to pick up donuts for the Simpsons when I worked at the Simpsons, when they have Friday donuts. One- Humble brag, you used to eat a lot of donuts. Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! It was not fun or cool. I had to get like 30 donuts and then...

Yeah, and that's just Homer's order. And I get there and there'd be like so many like... I love a lot of the writers, the Simpsons, Selman were having come back, but you get there with the donuts and people were like, these donuts are bad. Like you hear and they're like, god damn it, this sucks. But it was a local. We're the fucking Simpsons. We can't get good donuts around here. It was Homer.

I don't mean to out him, but it was Homer. Hamburglar's cool, Homer's kind of a monster. Homer's kind of a monster. I mean, look, he's so funny. He's so funny. There's that documentary coming out. Yeah. Yeah, god.

I will watch it, but I'm not looking forward to watch it. Look, Bill Murray, Chevy Chase, like, you know, like kind of assholes, but like so funny. Homer's kind of the same thing. Homer's kind of the same sort of thing. You know what's cool though, is just like the chillest dude. Who's that? Beavis.

Beavis is so cool. Beavis is so cool. I thought you were gonna say Peter Griffin. Peter Griffin is also like, very chill. Peter Griffin's way, like Family Guy is pretty like crazy, but Peter's pretty laid back. Peter's like, it's like you kind of like look at the cast and you're like, oh, Peter's gonna be like very chill. Peter Griffin's way, like family guy's pretty crazy, but Peter's pretty laid back. It's like you kind of like look at the cast and you're like, oh, Peter's gonna be like a prima donna,

but actually Peter's like cool. The problem is Brian, shockingly. Yeah, he seems smart, but yeah. Well, he's really right wing. He's really like, he's super right wing. We were at Sketch Fest and we were doing like, we're gonna do Doughboys and then like after us in the same venue was Brian Griffin was just up

and he was gonna do his one man show. And we were like, hey man, I'm sorry, we do this food podcast, if you ever wanna guest on it, we'd love to have you. He like rolled his eye. He said, yeah, not my thing. That's what he said. Yeah, exactly. I was like, cool man.

I saw him once on the street and I asked him to take a picture. He asked me for 50 bucks. Dear, what the fuck? 50 bucks for a picture. That's fucking ridiculous. What a fucking asshole. I mean, look, also he's funny in the show.

He's funny in the show. Fucking hilarious. He's so funny. He, oh. He's a funny guy, he's a funny guy. He's a super funny guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you talk to Stewie about him, Stewie's like, yeah, Brian, you know.

Yeah, Stewie's nice. Stewie's weird. Stewie's friends are friends, you know, like on the show, like, yeah. I know, but it's weird when you see it and not in real life. Yeah, yeah, you'd think, you know. Yeah, like Wags and I-

Don't meet your heroes. Wags and I, like on the show, we play best friend, on the Doughboy show, we play best friends. Yeah, the best friends. And in real life, we are best friends. We're hanging out every weekend. We're hanging out all the time, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, Peter's cool. He's like, he's just like, hey, how you doing? You wanna dab? Yeah. He does like stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. He's chill.

So anyway. Yeah. Sorry, sorry for that, but it was Homer. So I mean, there's no way around it. It used to be a donut shop. The donuts were great there too. They had great apple fritters, I believe. It was a Korean family that owned it.

And it was great. It was a great donuts, great donuts. I think so that this particular location, which you don't need to spend too much time on, but it is also like in and of itself, it feels like it's out of another time. This feels like something that was a roadside stand that was built in the 1950s.

It's got like a rare, like kind of too big for its space surface parking lot, which is great. Sure. There's a lot of not, a lot of these kinds of places that have no parking in LA. And then mostly outdoor seating, but they've kind of revamped it and they're leaning into kind of places that have no parking in LA. And then mostly outdoor seating. But they've kind of revamped it, and they're leaning into kind of like the hand-drawn, hand-written sort

of character that comes from Sonia Hong's little doodles on plates with a signage, which is fun. There's a picture that looks like an old school picture of guys at the stand. I was like, what is this from? So that's the Clash. Yeah. Wait, the Clash? Was. I was like, what is this from? That was The Clash. Oh, wait, The Clash. Was it really? The 70s one? Yeah, that was The Clash.

Were they at the four of them? Were they at the queens or... They were at the original, Irv's original Queensborough. I guess it would be Irv's. That's what it was. After 70s. I didn't even realize that it was The Clash. I feel like a fool. No, there's like a Linda Ronstadt album cover that has Irv's burgers on it.

Even though it was The Clash. It was The Clash. That was some time. Joe Strummer, you don't recognize Joe Strummer? I mean, I've talked to Simonin. I recognize, that's his name, right? The bassist. I recognize Brian Griffin and all the family guy guys,

I recognize. Yeah, we all recognize him. Yeah, we all recognize him. Those are the most recognizable characters in the world. We show a newborn child in China a picture of Brian Griffin. He knows who Brian Griffin is. He knows who he is, yeah.

All right, that's fair. Yeah. But in the clash, they... He goes, Stewie's best friend. I know the clash. Brink, brink, brink, brink, brink, brink, brink, brink. I know the Clash. You know Train in Vain. That's it. And it's funny to say their most popular song that Clash fans probably don't like you people

mentioning. No, that's a good one. That's a good song. You didn't say should I stay or should I go or rock the Caspi. Those are the basic ones. They're all good. They're all good. I'm lost in the Caspods. And those are the basic ones. But they're all good. They're all good. I'm lost in the supermarket.

Oh, yeah. Food related. I know some of the Clash. I know a little bit of the Clash. Is that the London Calling Deep Cut? Yeah, yeah. Come on. I recognized him.

So all right, you went to the cool place and sandwiched. I get it. I get it. All right. All right. So there is a lot of history for this place. Yeah, it is, like, some celebrities and bands and stuff have gone to this place, at least the original location.

We went to the La Brea location, which is semi-new, as I mentioned. Which, after we went there, they were like, oh, so some celebrities have been here. Yeah. We were looking, I was looking around, I was like, what are they talking about? Oh, French Stewart is in line with us.

Yeah. Yeah. One burger, please. Is that pretty good French? He's wearing his furry coat from Third Rock, Minnesota. I'm just gonna say, I love herbs. I think herbs is so fucking good. And I like it, I had a great meal this time,

but I think I may have said this at the restaurant. When I asked my wife, Natalie, like, hey, we're going to this place. Do you want anything or do you wanna come or whatever? Most of the time she says no, and sometimes she says fuck no. But when I mentioned herbs and- And all the time it's fuck you.

Yeah. At least the subtext. But I said we were going to Irv's and the time that we were all able to go was during her work day so she couldn't make it. I was like, oh, we're going to Irv's. And she was like, ah, I'm so jealous. Like she like loves this place.

And I just think it does what it's doing so capably. And also with the menu additions that have come in with some of the new management, they still haven't made it into like this big sprawling menu. They just add a few things like the tuna melt is new, I think. I think the shakes are new, but it's mostly just sort of like working around the margins. They still are focused on burgers and fries.

To me the shakes and stuff work good, but the burger is like the star of the show, which is what you want. The burger's reason to go there. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And one thing I liked about their burgers is, it's that kind of fast food-y thin patty kind of thing, but they gave it that char, too.

Right. And it's not a smash burger, though, right? No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Which I like that there's thin patties, but they still got a good meat ratio. The ratio is pretty decent. But usually, yeah, you'll see places kind of undercook those patties, but they made sure that there was a little crispiness to it, which was really good. Yeah, yeah.

I had gone wags once before when I was going to my dermatologist, coming back from my dermatologist. Humblebrag? Uh. Oh. Oh. No, what? Uh, I was getting like-

Dermatologists around here. My dermatologist was like getting my warts removed, and I was coming back, my humblebrag. Oh, la-ti-da! Oh! And I stopped in at Herb's at that very location because I had heard of it before. I think there's one on Santa Monica Boulevard.

The Santa Monica Boulevard one is the original. Well, the original was on Santa Monica Boulevard. It's moved like two doors down. And I had just heard of it forever. So I just tried it on a whim before we did it for the podcast. And I had the regular, the main burger. The roadside burger. Which I liked a lot.

And then yesterday I got a patty melt and I ordered patty melt and a pastrami sandwich for us to kind of take bites of. I loved the patty melt. I don't know how you guys felt. I thought the patty melt was fucking great. Yeah, and you know why? I mean, I couldn't maybe use,

do patty melts have mustard in it a lot or not? Sometimes they do. There was not a lot of mustard flavor to it, but I wanna, like, I couldn't maybe use, do patty muts have mustard in it a lot or not? Sometimes they do. There was not a lot of mustard flavor to it, but I was, I wanna say like, just the meat, it was so meat forward and just tasted so good and the bright toast was buttered and toasted perfectly. It was a damn, it was a really damn good patty mout. I thought Top Round was pretty good

when we went there before too. So I- Yeah, I like Top Round. I think that this spot is maybe a cursed spot in a way, but. Yeah, I don't know. This location seemed pretty busy at the time, but I don't know. They also had a Phantom though.

So I think that was the thing is that they had a Phantom of the restaurant. Of the restaurant. Yeah. A guy who had been burned by a firecrack. That was the curse. By Grease. Yeah.

Yeah. I was like, why, if you have a phantom, why do you have a chandelier in here? And it's like, sure enough, it fell on French Stewart. And that's why we've been seeing all this news about French Stewart in the hospital. We hope that he pulls through French Stewart. He was on the birthday boys at one point.

He was. Yeah, yeah. Very nice man. I agree he's a lovely guy. Very nice man, very funny. Very funny. But now crushed by a chandelier, hopefully he recovers. Yeah.

So the, so top round, a refresher, or for anyone who didn't listen to that episode, it was like kind of like an upscale attempt at an Arby's, right? It was like a, you know, a- Very good. Fast casual gentrified Arby's. Irv's is like a little bit more like for, you know,

the working class. I think it's fair, not that it's like the cheapest thing, but it's like stuff that's been eaten for generations by people from all classes in LA. I got the Roadside Double Burger. I think this is a place because of the thinness of the patty where the double burger is,

and this is another Natalie thing, like the double burger you should think of as the default burger here. And just to get through the components, it's a toasted bun, American cheese, herb sauce, lettuce, tomato, onion, and pickle. Man, it was really hitting yesterday. It was so fucking good.

I loved it. It was fantastic. I thought my patty melt was great. You got a very interesting burger that I didn't even know was on the menu. I mean, I don't know if anyone who was on the menu, the menu would be the key term here. I was being a little bit of a try hard guest. I was like, uh, I'm going to be on doughboys. You gotta go out. Let us tell you, we like it. We like when you do your homework. We like that when people

don't do their homework, cool. Like show up, not knowing shit. We're pissed off. Right, Wags? Yeah, no, it's great, it's great. So I saw there was a secret menu. Mm-hmm. Clicked, realized it was a link, and what the link brings you to is a picture of the plate with the writing on it that I now realize

is the signature doodles. Yeah. And one of the burgers said just a, I think, I forget what the wording of it was, but it was like, just a really good burger. I think I have it written down here. Just a well-made cheeseburger. Just a well-made cheeseburger.

It was in quotes and it was on the secret menu. And when we went in, I was like, and crinkle cut fries was also on the secret menu. And I went to the girl and I was like, hey, can I have that like, just a really, really good burger? And she goes, oh, the movie burger? I was like, I don't know. I was watching this all the way down. just a really, really good burger, just a, and she goes, oh, the movie burger? I was like, I don't know. I was watching this all the way down. And she was like, it's the burger from the movie,

and I was like, it's on the secret menu, and she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's like, we're gonna, I was like, what movie is it from? And it's the burger from the menu. Which confused things, I think, even more. It was a bit of a who's on first. The movie was on you. It's from the menu it's like what it was a very I was I was like no it's

not on the menu you started that was rude with the Phantom and a headlock I remember I was like, do you know who I am? French Stewart's friends? No, we're not friends with, well kind of. So I've seen the menu, but I did not know this until this interaction in your description of the aftermath. So this is the thing that the Anya Taylor Joy character at the end of the movie is like, I just want a well-made cheeseburger.

Well-made spoilers spoilers, spoilers. Spoilers for the menu, yeah. And that's like somehow she defeats the chef that way. Yeah. Oh, my only weakness. Uh. Guess I can't kill you. Yeah, she's the granted freedom. Spoilers for the menu.

Spoilers for the menu. Comedy Bang Bang writer wrote that movie. That's right. Yeah. Anyways, that burger also very good. Yeah. Yeah, no, it was great. Yeah, great burger.

I think, yeah, it was, I don't think it had like lettuce and tomatoes or anything on it. But it was like grilled onions and the secret sauce. And just like that, like really featured, it was a double patty, really featured the meat. And the sesame bun. Yes. It was just great. Love a sesame bun.

Good sesame bun. I, you know what, put me over the top. So I thought that pastrami sandwich was okay. It wasn just great. Love a sesame bun. Good sesame bun. You know what, put me over the top. So I thought the pastrami sandwich was okay. It wasn't like great or a standout. I think the pastrami sandwich is something they've had on the menu for a long time. Oh, okay. I don't think that's one of the newer dishes.

I mean, it's a decent sandwich, but I wasn't like, this is my favorite bite of the day. So I live right next to the hat, not to dock myself. Oh, yeah. But there's multiple locations. Which location? Who knows? LA location, right?

Eh, I don't know. Maybe the Irvine one. Yeah, I don't know. This drive out here was long coming from Irvine. But when I saw the menu, I was like, is this gonna be, like, not as good as the hat? And which, I, the Pistrani family... I'm sorry, just because you said the menu before

when we were talking about the movie, the menu. It's happening again. Not when you saw the movie, the menu, when you saw the menu for the FURVS. I don't even know anymore. I wish that blasted comedy bang bang never existed, Wigz. I'm just happy. Like have a house, good job.

Oh, this movie writes itself. Alternate reality, like let's let it be. A wiper, let it be is very fun. Very Godfathered all along. So we bend to the hat, and we do, the hat is good. Hat is good. And also a good pastrami sandwich there. But the pastrami sandwich is like, insane.

That's the thing though, the hat is like a pastrami place that has the other stuff. This place is a burger place that has pastrami. Yeah, you know what? I think they both do what their thing is fully better at a spot totally exactly Yeah, so I was very pleased to see that it was a burger spot and their burgers were great The burgers were great. You know what kind of put me over the top there what that dog? Did you have a bite of the dog? Good, very, very good hot dog. The dog was fucking, the dog was just a really well-made, just a nice taste in frank and the buttered bun. It was great.

Super simple, the Erv's dog, and you also get it with chili cheese, but it's just an all beef Hebrew national hot dog, butter toasted Erv's hot dog bun is the menu description. I just put some mustard on that. I took a couple of bites. We had some communal bites. I thought it was a really, really quality hot dog. And also like of the size of just like, I'd get that as a side dog with my burger. Sure.

Yeah. You know you're going to get a side dog. Yeah, of course. Hey, speaking of side dogs. Side dog, right? She sighed when you said hot dog. That's funny. But overall, I was impressed with, look, they have Pepsi products, not the best. Yeah, and I'm like, I think they always have had Pepsi products, I don't think that's a new thing,

I could be wrong. I thought both your shakes were tasty. Yours was actually, maybe my favorite, but it was also like so natural strawberry, but I almost wanted it to be like fake, or fake tasting, artificial strawberry. It was really, you got the strawberry shake, Mitch, you got the orange creamsicle float

and I got a birthday shake. Which the orange creamsicle float had a nice touch, which is they gave you the orange crush, the glass like orange crush bottle. The left over, yeah. Sort of the shake leftover kind of thing. I love that. Yeah, that was a nice touch and I needed it too.

I thought it was good. The ice cream was good. It was just kind of simple and whatever. Yeah, so I love birthday flavor. I think I liked the birthday shake more than anyone. Like for me, I was like, this is great. I love it. I will say that it probably could have had half as many sprinkles

because you were sucking a lot of sprinkles down with each sip. Very textured. Very textured. The other thing I will say, and this is Sam, this was your observation and you're absolutely right. They give you a boba straw with your shake. The boba straw with a thick milkshake is a fucking master stroke.

It was so, it's such a great way to consume this. Yeah, I hate it when you have like a shake, like an Oreo shake with like a skinny straw. Yes. And it's like immediately there's a clog. Yeah. Those paper straws Obama gave us. No one thought this one through.

Yeah. Biden would never. Biden would never give us paper straws like that. Yeah, because his dick is huge. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha. Check out the cock on that guy. Ha ha ha ha. I wonder how much it would sway the presidential election if like a part of the process like

the debates and like you know filing your campaign show how everyone had to show their hogs that's so the people who listen to the debate on radio yeah who saw Nixon's hog okay man that would be fun. Four more years. If Biden just had like a monster hog compared to Trump, it just would be funny. It would be funny. I think it would sway a lot of people.

It would, yeah, definitely. Wasn't that movie star who like, wasn't there like a director who was giving a movie star a hard time and then he saw he had like a big hog and he was like, I respect him now. Yeah, I think I heard this story on Action Boys, but this was a Gaberson Stanger Rogers great podcast, actionboys.biz.

I think what it was was, who's the direct, Peter Berg. Peter Berg and Justin Theroux, and Peter Berg was one of the EPs of The Leftovers, like the director of the pilot, I think maybe, and Justin Theroux was on it, and he was always bullying Justin Theroux, kind of treating him like, you know, like whatever, like who the fuck are you, pretty boy.

And then Justin Theroux had a nude scene and he's got a big hog. And then after that, he respected him from that point forward. That is so funny. That's a show that I'm like, this is one of the best shows ever. Oh yeah, I've never seen it, but I know people are. People love the leftovers.

It's weird, the first season is like. We love leftovers. We do love leftovers, yeah. Pro. Uh, it's weird, cause it's like the first season's like, all right, I don't know if I like where this is going, but the second and third season are like so good. Yeah, I feel like it's awesome.

They're like so amazing, like unlike any other TV show. Well, this is- It's funny to like hear that like it might've been because the director was like, fuck this guy. And then like, he's like, oh, he's got a big dick. Like those seasons two and three really had that BDE. Well, it's weird. I was in the, I was in the leftovers pilot

and I had a show hog and then then Berg pushed me down to PA. He did mo... After I showed my Hogg, he was like, you're a PA now. Yeah, it's weird to know that director Peter Berg wouldn't respect you. It's like... Oh. Okay.

We got to talk... First off, I do want to touch on Sus got the turkey burger, but the turkey burger has like... He was pissed. He didn't like it? He was like, it was okay, and I was like, We got to talk, first off, I do want to touch on Sus got the turkey burger, but the turkey burger has like- He was pissed. He didn't like it? He was like, it was okay. And I was like, why did you get it? You know that you didn't,

you knew you were going to be unhappy. You came all the way for this free meal anyways. So why are you going to get the per- It has, it had hatch chilies. It looks good. I was thinking about it. It does look good. It has cheddar and hatch green chilies

as well as the herb sauce, lettuce and tomato. It's like, there's some thought was put into making this distinct from the other burgers. I talked to him afterwards and he was like, nah. And I was like, you shouldn't, and then he was trying bites of other, I mean, he was very happily trying bites about the burgers. He was going to town.

But he was like- I didn't sense this much animosity yesterday at the meal, but now I find out you're seething the whole time. What the fucking guy doing here? He just always goes to town on it. He does, yeah. But the thing that I got upset about is after the fact is he was like, eh, he was kind of being like, it's like whatever.

And to me, I think the theming of herbs, when you think of a big chain restaurant, but it's smaller, which gets also listeners mad. We're sorry listeners, but just think of it as a local burger spot, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, it's a to-do thing when you come to LA. Yeah, you should try it.

It's good. When you come to LA, you should try it. But he was like, so, so, and I think, look, I'm gonna tip my hand here a little bit. I think that this is in four forks or above for me, but we'll talk about that in a second. We'll get to that in a second. We should talk about the fries situation.

So we got chili cheese fries, regular fries, and crinkle cut fries. Also, we should quickly mention that we were gonna sit outside. And on the tables, we maybe, there was gonna be a scenario where maybe I sat on one end of the table, you sat on the other and I shot you into space. Yeah.

So. It was that kind of thing where you realized like even if the tables were stable enough that like our knees would be touching. Yeah. Yeah. The outdoor tables are like from the, it seems like maybe from the 50s or something.

Yeah. Asses were just smaller, right? Cause it's like a little, it's like a coasters worths or something. Asses were just smaller, right? Cause it's like a little, it's like a coasters worth of like ass support that you're supposed to put your cheeks on. It was like, it's like if you, if you go to like an elementary school, you're like,

oh, this is not made for adults. You know, like none of these stuff. Yeah, my grandpa, yeah, like my grandpa. Not that I go to elementary schools. Yeah, why would I wanna do that? Now you're talking Nick's language. My grandpa probably had a small ass comparatively. Yeah, my grandpa, most of my grandpa's probably

had small asses versus me for sure, yeah. Yeah. My grandpa had a huge ass. I don't know what you guys were talking about. His ass was great. Papa? Yeah, Papa and Grandpa, fucking tiny asses. His ass was great. Ha ha ha ha ha! Papa? Ha ha ha ha! Yeah, Papa and Grandpa, fucking tiny asses.

Yeah. I remember in their coffin, it was like a slimline coffin. Yeah, yeah. That's how you get that Dracula shape. That classic, you know, coffin shape. Now they're rectangular. Right. But back in the day, they used to be that diamond. Dracula had no ass.

Zero ass. So the fries were, we were sitting inside, the fries were brought out, the workers there were lovely and she brought them out and she was like, so the fries are actually a little bit well done. If you like, we can remake them. She leads with that offer. The fries are pretty crispy.

I don't mind it. To me, the well-done fries are not a problem at all, but- They were maybe, this place maybe doesn't do the best version of well-done fries. It was nice that she offered, we didn't care. It was a kitchen error that she offered to rectify, for instance, this is not how their fries normally come. And we didn't have them remake them.

We could. I think after the fact after eating them, I think they probably were too well done. Yeah, sure. In my opinion. I looked her dead in the eyes and I said, no, you already ruined my meal. That's true.

We were really weird with this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was seething. The Phantom cried. Yeah. No, no, yeah. Yeah, it's a bummer. I mean, she deserved it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was working for me. When you go into a restaurant, they are working for you. That is true. You are their boss. Right.

And you can treat them however you want. This is a lot of what you said yesterday, but you're 100% right. Yeah, yeah. And I had so much spit. I was spitting on the ground everywhere. however you want. This is a lot of what you said yesterday, but you're 100% right. Yeah, yeah. And it was so much spit. I was spittin' on the ground everywhere. Yeah.

Yeah, it was, she was very kind to offer that, and they did a great job, and the food came out pretty quick. He's really noticed with the fries. The crinkle cut fries went. I think those were just like, I don't know if it was like the crinkle cut fries went, I think those were just like, I don't know if it was like the crinkle cut was like better for having overdone fries.

It's like the way the surface area is of it. But like I, I agree with you. I think the crinkle cut fries were great. I liked the crinkle cut more than I liked the regular fries. I agree, I do like the chili cheese fries there. I think that, you know, I think this it's weird

because you think that having so many wet ingredients on top of something well done, it was like, oh, it'll kind of counterbalance it. But it actually was just kind of cumbersome to eat. And I think the other the other element you end up there is like if you get too much food, you don't really want the chili cheese fries, right? You just want some regular fries. You don't necessarily need a big another big pile of meat.

Sure. Yeah. But they. But they're well done. They have good chili and they have good, a good pork and chili. Yeah, the chili's decent. I mean, to me though, it's still, the star of the show was the burger. Sure. Yeah. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. You know, Mitch, I got something

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We'll give a closing argument, if you will, on Ervsburgers and then end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks. Sam, you're our guest. We'll begin with you. Your thoughts, your fork score. I'd say four forks. Four forks. Sam, you're our guest. We'll begin with you. Your thoughts, your fork score. I'd say four forks. Four forks? Wow. Yeah, I love it.

No. I think four forks is good. You know, I think the sort of LA bars set with in and out as far as burgers go. This guy's going to agree with you there. I think that I like the sort of burger stand burger more than in and out as far as burgers go. Sure. This guy's gonna agree with you there. I think that like, I like the like sort of burger stand burger more than in and out. Yeah.

And I think that that's sort of the thing. And this definitely was like that step above an in and out kind of burger. This is like the, again, the, and it's tough to like do a burger and have the meat really be the star. And I think it really was the star in that burger and the buns, the sesame seed buns were such a good touch to it too.

And yeah, it's completely happy with my meal. Wow. Four forks. Very good score. Go ahead, Spoonman. Good food, good company. I like herbs. I mean, I like that.

Wait, you're giving them points based on me? I get points on you gave them points, which is, hey. And look, I... Guess a place can suffer from a bad guess. It is true. You took koalic to Olive Garden, and you're like losing a full fork. Oh, wow.

I feel bad for Olive Garden. With the koalic? Was there a koalic? Oh, man. They're chasing him out of the kitchen with a broom. He's rat-like in many ways. I had a great time at Herb's the second time I had it. Yeah. Heavy meal, I was, my stomach the rest of the night

was definitely, I mean, I ate like a burger and a half, probably all said and done but I really like it I like that it's a local place and I feel like with rich restaurateurs that's the way that they should spend their money am I saying restaurateurs Greg? I think so yeah there's no N in the word like it's restaurateurs but I think you pronounce it in it. Is that Jack White Band, restaurateurs. Right?

Side project. Yeah. Well, putting their money towards a place like this, I like it. I mean, I don't know how much they're gonna franchise it, what it means. Like, I don't know the story of Ervs as well. I should go to the original location.

I know it's two doors down from where it was, but I should maybe try the original. Yeah. I just can't find it. Where is it? It used to be here. It's two spots down. But I, ooh, I'm getting a call.

Oh yeah, take it right now, go ahead, Mitch. So this is the perfect time, while you're recording a podcast, while you're doing a monologue. It's Sleep America again. There goes my whole professional opinion about, like, you're such a pro, you lost it. Refuses to enable, do not disturb.

Sleep America keeps calling me. They're trying to figure out how I slept last night. I'm not gonna let them know. Okay, Sleep America, for context, this is your CPAP company. My CPAP company. Do they give wellness checks? They're calling you periodically?

They're like, your CPAP told us you flatlined last night. Oh, no, it's like, your CPAP told us you flatlined last time. No, it's fine. I just had herbs. Oh, yeah. It's another 480. They have a code for herbs. Your heart rate spiked last time. Were you jacking off? Yeah, I was jacking off. Stop calling. I jack off every night, Wags. You know this you know this. We just have to do a survey. What was it too? Which, which president, how did that affect your vote? All right.

Great. Those 35 seconds are accounted for. Uh, resume your night. 35 seconds. What do you think I'm on vacation? Anyways, I really liked herbs. I had a good time there. I think if you want a good burger near an LA,

you could do much worse than herbs. And I don't think that you can do too much better. There's a couple of like, but like for a fast food burger like that, I think it's really great. I gotta go for, I'll go four forks. I'm gonna do handholding club. It's right there for me.

Mitch, four forks from the spoon, man. Mitch, you said, first off, I also had some rumblies, but I knew, I fucking knew what I was getting into. I knew what I was doing to myself. I mean, I'm getting a birthday cake shake for Christ's sake. Yeah. We did talk a little bit about this and we did hear Susser like grousing a bit about this place, but all that said, he ended up texting us and you saw this.

This is from Susser. I'm reading his words verbatim. I mean, it's very funny, his words. Four forks, no more, no less. Mitch, wow, you said it wasn't a four-forker. Susser, no, that's what I said. Four, just four. By the way, each of these is a separate text.

He said, I don't know about four-forks. That's what he said to me afterwards. Well, he's retconning it to just what I said is four, just four. So he's setting the baseline at four, and he's the guy who was disappointed here. Uh, and so even him is still has to concede that this is a golden plate club resident at minimum. Well, if you give it four forks or above, I asked, uh, I asked Natalie and I said, uh, what's your fork score.

And she thought about it for a second. And she was like five forks. Like for her, it was a no brainer that this is a five forker. And I think what they, no, I think brainer that this is a five forker. We maybe went low. And I think what, no, I think both of your scores are great. I think that four forks is like kind of what this place deserves.

I think that, but for me, for my fandom of this type of burger, my appreciation of just kind of like what it kind of means to the city, to its neighborhood, and then also just like for its, the fact that it's kind of having this modern sort of rebirth and, but it's still like honoring like, you know, the, the, the, it's, it's heritage.

Like I think all those elements. It hasn't morphed into something monstrous yet. Exactly. It hasn't turned into something else. It has a few extra located. It has this extra one in La Brea. It has another one in Newport Beach, but like it's keeping the menu basically as is. It's keeping the food quality as is.

It's not overexpanding where it's going to be the sprawling mess that's going to lose the whole point and the whole charm of this place. I think for those reasons and look, I have a lot of nostalgia for roadside burgers too, as someone who grew up in SoCal, lifelong SoCal surfer dude, my dad used to be taking this place in Carson, California, Columbia burger that was very much like an herb style burger, this sort of thing loaded with with veggies and sauce and just a whole bunch of meat and cheese and so like I when I have a burger like this I'm like this is the kind of thing I like to eat. I'm giving five forks for this bad boy. Oh wow. This is a five forker for me but I can say, welcome to the golden plate club to

Erv's Burgers, richly deserved. Wags, go to Erv's, you should try Erv's. Also, I think Jemmy just meowed. Is Jemmy a secret cat? I think I heard Jemmy meow, I heard a little meow come out of her mouth. What a mid-season reveal that would be. A cat dog, because she acts more like a cat than a dog, but when she yawns, she makes kind of a meow sound.

I heard a meow. Wow. Look, I got two cats, you know that I know a meow. Pull on her face Pull on the dog's face She's like here's my face pull on it see what happens feels real Data point in favor of dog. Hey, it's time for a segment We got a bunch of chips and we're gonna eat them all it's chips and hail rescue Rangers

Hey, it's time for a segment. We got a bunch of chips and we're gonna eat them all. It's Chips and Hail, Rest You Rangers! There's no case to think, no bag too small. When you've got chips, just call. Ch-Ch-Ch-Chips and Hail. Rest You Rangers, Ch-Ch-Chips and Hail. Every flavor, you know it never fails. Once we're involved, somehow these chips will eat them all. Ch-ch-ch-chips in hail. Okay. So this is Chips in Hail, Rescue Rangers. Didn't want to record that before, or something? No, I think it's good to get a live performance. Yeah, true, true. With the energy of the lyrics.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wags, I figured it out. I just looked at Jemmy's phone. She's got Babble and she's learning Cat. Good for you, Jemmy. phone, she's got babble and she's learning cat. Good for you, Jemmy. You know, you- Use code Doughboyz20 at checkout. Is that it?

Probably. We'll fix it if not. We'll figure it out. We'll fix that, we'll fix the version of Rest Two Rangers you'll hear at the end, Chips and Hale, will be like the final version of the song. We'll overdub it with that. Yeah, yeah.

I was honestly like, why isn't he making this joke with Duolingo? That's the much more, and I was like, ooh. That non-sponsor? No, no, Doughboy's code for Duolingo. Yeah. So we've got a bunch of different chips.

Right now, Lays has their West Coast inspired, for the West Coast inspired, Urv's Burgers, we have some flavors that speak to that. One of them is crispy taco, and the other one is- I'm not sure that other one's West Coast inspired. Well fuck, that ruins my whole thing. Sorry, their whole thing with the new flavors is they have like a West Coast, a Midwest,

and an East Coast flavor. Oh, got it, so they're hometown inspired, got it. Yeah, but whole thing with the new flavors is they have like a West Coast, a Midwest, and an East Coast flavor. Oh, got it, so they're hometown inspired. Yeah, but Amelia could only find the West Coast ones, which makes me think they maybe don't, they only sell them in their regions. That's interesting. Well, we have the, this is a limited one. This is a hometown flavor.

This is kettle cooked lime and cracked pepper. I mean, to me, this also seems like it could be West Coast. It says this is maybe Southwest inspired tang. It's funny, I think of West Coast tacos, I think of soft tacos, no? Yeah, sure, yeah. Yeah, same, I guess you're right. Those look good.

It's maybe a little bit of stretch. We also have- Is this a sponsor? Yeah, no. No, no, no. They're not sponsored by Lay's. Guy would love to have that Frito Lay money. But the Doughboys can't be bought. We also have Flamin' Hot Lay's.

And we have Sweet and Spicy Honey Lay's. I've had both of these. Oh, I have not. But it'll be interesting to try them on the podcast. So I guess what we'll do, you know what? I'm just gonna circulate some bags. Feel free to start pumping in. Okay.

Is there a way that we drank these? We haven't done this segment in a while. Yeah, the way we usually do is we just sort of pick which our favorite is. Okay. We don't have any specific criteria. So I'm sharing this around. I'm opening up the Crispy Taco.

I just opened up the Fl and hot. Try this. Sweet and spicy honey. We're gonna get a lot of plastic crinkling. And crunching. We're also gonna get a lot of crunching. So we're gonna hear from our listeners that they have misophonia and that misophonia is real. Yeah, phony is the key part of that word.

All right, the West Coast one. Let's see, bite into memorable moments with West Coast inspired spice and a savory crunch. And I can't from the looking at a glance of the ingredients, I can't really tell what this is going for. So I'm just gonna take a bite. You know, this is an issue I've run into with some of these compound flavors that are trying

to do like a BLT or like a burger or like a taco. And this one definitely doing the crunchy taco. You get a lot of lettuce. And I'm not sure if lettuce is what I want. No. Yeah. I mean- Yeah, that's like not even like the dominant flavor of actual lettuce when it's in something.

I do think it has- That's not the dominant flavor in a salad. But I do think it has the good, I do think it gets that seasoned ground beef part, the taco meat flavor to it. So these are so much weirder than I thought they would be. You're eating the spicy honey? Mm-hmm.

I've had this thing lately where I've tried these chips and stuff that are supposed to be something and I've been like, well, that's not what you would call that. That's another, I had these honey mustard, or no, spicy mustard chips the other day that I was like, no, this is horseradish. That's what this is. Oh, wow.

That tastes like spicy barbecue sauce. But I mean, no, this is horseradish. That's what this is. Oh, wow. That tastes like spicy barbecue sauce. But I mean, also, like, honey is a ingredient. There's like a very sweet spike of, you're right. It doesn't taste like normal honey. It tastes closer to barbecue sauce or something. They're not bad. Yeah, they're pretty good. You can send those over to Mitch.

I'll hand these back to you. These are the lime and cracked pepper, which I just tasted. I do like the pepper. I don't love artificial lime. That's a big issue for me. Anytime it's like lime and whatever, I always just feel like this tastes a little too sciencey for me, that fake citrus.

I don't know. I like it on a, what are those, the chips that go to nachos? Tortilla chip. Oh, like a tortilla chip. Yeah, it's usually a little bit, it fits a little bit better. I've been just passing this over. So I've got the Flamin' Hot and the Sweet and Spicy

right now, I'm gonna have a second one of the Lime and Cracked Peppers. Sam, what do you think of those bad boys? I see what you're saying. It's like the tanginess is like very like, unnatural to the flavor. These are, I mean, one you're right that I think of, the West Coast tacos I think of soft tacos.

Right. And I don't really think of lettuce being in them. There's like a lot of things that are kind of weird about this in many ways. Could be like an al pastor flavor or something, you know what I mean? To me, it's so much taco seasoning in these ones, like there's just a lot of taco seasoning

and the lettuce flavor-wise, like you were saying. Science-wise, it is kind of miraculous that they taste the way they do. Sure. I haven't liked any of these chips as much as I thought I would. The sweet and, I don't like the sweet, I wanted to like the sweet and spicy honey

or whatever it is more. And the flaming hot doesn't work as well on Lay's. I'm figuring out. That's the whole issue. We have the flaming hot Cheetos. That's just the best version. And I understand the instinct of what the flaming hot on other types of Frito Lay chips.

You already got the powder, but just sandblast that onto those son of bitches. But I just don't think there's a reason to ever get the flaming hot Lay's unless you're really in a pinch and you need something spicy. Yeah. That's my last one I'm going to try. It's so funny though, you mentioning like science, like it's recently, I had this

like kind of complaint against myself where I'm way too impressed with the science of junk food where like recently, you know, it was Easter and I got a bag of watermelon, Sour Patch Kid jelly beans. Yeah. And I'm, you know, those, you know, watermelon Sour Patch Kids are great. And I tried it and I was like, oh my God,

this tastes just like them. And it's like, yeah, it's barely a different candy. Right. It's like all the same ingredients, but I was like, whoa, they did it. They did it. And that's, I like was like, oh, I gotta buy this to find out if they can do it.

And it's like, we've done so much more in society. And I'm like, oh wow. And it's also that sort of thing of like, do you wanna eat the science? I don't want to eat the science thing ever. And all of these, I'm kind of bummed out by all this. I am thoroughly underwhelmed by this. I think those suck.

I think the lime and crack. Yeah. I don't like those. I honestly would probably, the only one I would maybe give a snack to is the sweet and spicy honey, just because I could see myself taking a whole bag of those down.

Yeah. They're pretty eatable. I feel like it should be called spicy barbecue. probably the only one I would maybe give a snack to is the sweet and spicy honey, just because I could see myself taking a whole bag of those down. Yeah. They're pretty eatable. I feel like it should be called spicy barbecue. It's spicy barbecue would be a better name for it, yeah. I ultimately would rank those second. I think the Flamin' Hot still won for me, even though it's just the worst version of Flamin' Hot.

I'm sort of a heat seeker, so I always liked the Flamin' Hot. And the sweet and spicy honey does not really have any spice as far as I can tell. Like, speaking of Heat Seeker, the first place I had buffalo wings was in Sandwich Massage, or was in Cape Cod. Wow.

Bobby Burns, which is now closed in Cape Cod. There was one in Sandwich. There was. Oh, so it was in Sandwich. That was right by where Cafe Choo was. Wow. Oh, no way. So that's the first place I ever had

buffalo wings, Bobby Burns. And it was like, what are these? Like, now. So that's the first place I ever had buffalo wings, Bobby Burns. And when, like, it was like, what are these? Like, now a thing that's like, what are these? What are buffalo wings? It was like a novel thing at a certain point. So this is made of buffalo, but buffaloes don't have wings. I don't know. Buffalo New York. Dominoes took off with that idea for...

Yeah. But I remember loving them back then, and people loved Bobby Burns, I guess. Bobby Burns was like the place that it was like, would be like, oh, did you hear Caleb got, you know, like arrested for trying to get served at Bobby Burns? I feel like that happened there. I am going to say, just about all of these, I think I would probably give honestly like a hard whack

to the, we're going to snag or whack to the lime and cracked pepper. Although I do like the texture, the kettle cooked texture. The crispy taco is like a whack. The Flamin' Hot, maybe I guess mild snack just because I like Flamin' Hot and the sweet and spicy honey snack. But I'm completely unenthused about all of these. That would be my ranking from four, three, two, one.

I was very cut off guard by you being like, I'd give a hard whack to that. Yeah. I was like, I mean, it's a chip. I don't know. I guess. No, you'll figure it out. It's a little sexy.

You can shape the bag in a way. In a way, soft whack is kind of the biggest indictment of all because no one's getting anything out of a soft whack. What are we doing here? That's just depression. Yeah, yeah. That's everything. What am I doing with my life?

I'm just doing this because I have a free 10 minutes. I'm a human being that feels the need to do this. I'm gonna go, my lowest is the lime chips. Those are bottom bottom huge whack. I think they suck. Crispy taco is a soft whack. The honey. And this is the I'm putting in my order to the honey, spicy honey. I'd say close to a soft whack too, sadly.

And then I'd say a slight snack to the flaming hot, uh, is my top one, but none of these are good. Sam, you got of these are good. Sam, you got a ranking? Yeah, I would go the whack to this, like a bad whack to- I'll hold that up just in case. This one, this is the one, hey. Yeah.

I'm not a huge, like super spicy guy, and I see what you say about the Cheetos thing. So I just like Flamin' Hots. It's like not my thing. Yeah. So it just is, I mean, I like it occasionally, but it's, I'm not a huge Flamin' Hot guy. And give a good, a whack off in a good way

to the crispy tart. Wow, okay. Oh, they're a little sexy. And then I, you know, that sweetened, you know, that would get me there. That sweetened the spicy barbecue sauce. I want to, I want to shout something out, which is you're both, you're both Celtics fans.

Your team is. I was going to get into it before we ended. You're wearing the Jason Tatum's and this is about Jason Tatum. I'm wearing old shoes that people make fun of me for still wearing. I've got to change them up. But they have the green back. That's true. The Celtics are poised for people to follow the NBA. They're the number one seed in the NBA.

They're poised to walk to the NBA finals. We'll see what ends up transpiring. But everything's lined up for you all this year. This is what we have. Look, by the way, we didn't even mention that Sandwich Massachusetts is where they play baseball. The summer leagues are there. Summer league. The movie is based in Sandwich. But you're Red Sox, Celtics and Patriots, right?

Yeah. And I got to be in New York. Like my whole, you know, like really like upping it with the Red Sox went through that like 2003, 2004 season. Oh wow. And yeah, like that 2004 Yankees Red Sox was like the the best, most dramatic thing I've ever seen.

It will never be replicated. It was the best. Yeah, it's weird to be like in this industry and be like, well, like, our kind of storytelling is pretty good, but 2004, like. You can't beat it. It was maybe the happiest I've ever been. Maybe about anything. It might be over.

And I got to be in New York for that, which sounds kind of counterintuitive because it's like, in 2003, I thought they were going. Like in 2003, I was like, yeah, they're gonna fucking beat the Akees. And then Aaron Boone hit that home run. Off Wakefield, rest in peace. I believe it was off Wakefield. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you were like, this is like the eighth, this guy's eighth in the lineup and this is Wakefield. And he was awesome too. Yeah, it's a knuckleballer though.

Yeah, yeah, so it's just like the ball dies this is Wakefield. No one really hates. And he was awesome too. Yeah, it's a knuckle baller though. So people can just, yeah. So it's just like the ball dies and he just like cranked this home run and you just heard the city explode. And just like my heart drop. That's so. And just feeling that like that pain

of the curse and everything. And then the next year was like so excited about everything. And like such a cool team with the idiots and you know, Johnny Damon growing his hair long and being the like anti-Yankees was so cool. And then, you know, you got Schilling just like in the first game, like with the bloody South and just like, and they almost-

All the people who continued to be likable after the fact. Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. They hadn't, they didn't peak then. No, they were about, they were an upward trajectory. It's so funny, you watch like the documentaries about this and like even like at that time, like a few years after, you see like Kurt Schilling, like, oh, he looks rough. Oh, that guy's had a few drinks.

He's like sweating in his talking head interviews. Yeah, he looks like shit. Yeah. And he is an asshole too now. But he was the greatest. And Celtics, I'm nervous. I mean, they're in the playoffs now. And it's weird to be the top seed and then be nervous about it.

The weight of high expectations. Sandwich, Massachusetts we got. We're Boston sports fans, sketch group guys. We got all of them. That's what I was gonna say. You just, you put microphones in front of the two of your guys' faces and you turn into Bill Simmons and Ryan Reis-Cilley. You're gonna fucking kick your ass.

I'll take it, I'll take it. Yeah. Again, I'd like that Spotify, buddy. Yeah, which you can start comparing a Red Sox I'll take it. I'll take it. Again, I'd like that Spotify, buddy. Yeah, which you could start comparing Red Sox to Cobra Kai cast members. Yeah, yeah. Red Sox is kind of unlikable.

Patriots about to take that turn now. Yeah, yeah. Because of Robert Krabs being a dick. I always do like, like, you know, after all those years of people being like, oh, I fucking hate the Patriots, and being like, well, you know, like Patriots and being like, well, we win. I do like them being a bad team and rooting for a bad team

and having low expectations for them. It's easier to deal with. It's fun to go through those areas. It's fun to have those what Edson was. It's the opposite with the Celtics right now where I'm like, I feel like they might just blow it. Yeah, the thing is, I love these guys. I love Jason Tatum, love Jaylen Brown, Derek White.

They've been great and such a great team. And you just want to see them bring home that championship so that that's in history. So that's set in stone. So it is, but it's like, we're just one of those cities where you're like, ah, they're going to fucking blow it. Yeah, it feels like it feels possible. Well, we'll see, We'll see what happens.

Especially with like Golden, like I thought they had that Golden State series. That was a wild series. Steph went nuclear. And I think also that was just one of those things where you're like, oh shit, we're in the finals. Like you kind of had that feeling for that Celtics team. Yeah, I mean, like that's like the thing with like Tatum,

like when Kyrie was injured and like Tatum brought the team like in one of his first it was first season right yeah and they were like right there they were like like you know like minutes away from going to the finals and no one thought it was possible and you you just want to see that guy I think Tatum such a cool guy is these shoes have the shoes great player they have deuce on the which is his son now there you go like that because son's nickname is deuce and he puts his son's nickname who's being to juice people who don't like do see if I don't like do

yeah people with me do online but we're gonna reason I brought up Jason Tatum in the first place and we went on this tangent is because Jason Tatum has my favorite ruffles right oh it's true Jason Tatum's Flamin' Hot BBQ champs. They're really fucking good. And I get frustrated because the LeBron flavor, I'm a Laker fan growing up from SoCal, the, and of course there's naturally a Celtics hater. Yeah, you know what, this is part of it.

Boo you guys, boo. Anyway, so. I think that's the best rivalry in sports. I agree, it's the best rivalry in sports. I think it's a, you know, the Yankees one has like real venom to it. I think the Lakers Celtics one, there's at least some admiration.

For sure, yeah. Look, we fight, at the end of the day, we're all watching that Biden porno together. Yeah. The, but the LeBron and the Anthony Davis chips are like not nearly as good. Like LeBron has, he's like a flaming hot, what the fuck is this? It's probably chips are like not nearly as good like LeBron has is like a flaming hot What the fuck is this probably because they're not as good as players. How dare you?

Yeah, Anthony Davis Anthony Davis has the has like a Palipane you'll line and it's got the same thing. It's got that science II lying flavor to it I got bad. Yeah, it's a bad. It's bad flavor. I thought you're talking about their championships I thought you know their chips aren't as good. And I was like, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Mickey Mouse chips. That'll be its own debate.

The bubble? Okay. Every team was on the same level playing field. Hey, just like a restaurant, I got your feedback on some of the feedback. Today's email is from Amelia, but not our Amelia. This is from HeatSaladSeeker in the dough scourge. Amelia writes, hi dough boyse Boys and Doe Girls. I've got a question for you.

Recently, my four-year-old son caught a nasty stomach bug from the other kids at his daycare. Over the next few days, I saw that the stomach bug spread to his little sister and then to my husband. As I write this, I am sure that I am mere minutes away from shitting my brains out. So my question for you is...

This is like a Titanic note or something. Yeah. A Civil War, like... My leg is being amputated as we speak. Hopefully, infection does not pass to my bloodstream. Woman's reading it like two months later with her new husband. So my question for you two is, what foods would you indulge in it

if you knew you were going to have diarrhea anyway? Honestly, at the front of my mind, I have looming diarrhea, I can have whatever I want, Irv's Burgers Birthday Shake. Because that is just like, diarrhea is gonna happen. Dear God. And that shake was fucking good. Sounds like it did happen.

You'll never know On like reddit about whether you had diarrhea or not. I think Weigar was lying about having diarrhea. I think he didn't actually have diarrhea. I will say that, but milkshake is a thing where I'm just like, this is fucking, this is gonna be really bad for my stomach. I am going to pay a price for this milkshake.

So I think my answer might just be a really, really good milkshake. That's a great answer. I think that it's up there. I think also, I mean, here's the thing is like, spicy food, if I know it's coming anyways answer. I think that it's up there. I think also, I mean, here's the thing is like spicy food. If I know it's coming anyways, but I mean, like it still hurts. No matter what is the.

I mean, this year, like, yeah, why not just like eat some barbed wire? Oh, that's the barbed wire coated. Yeah, it depends. I think that, I think that with if I know it's gonna go through, I guess you're right though, maybe more cheese heavy, like or dairy heavy, you know, like a milkshake, maybe just some pizza or something like that. But I eat that shit anyways.

I think for me, the Rumblies, which I'm always afraid of, which we talk about, Rumblies in the tummy, that it's spicy food for me. So if I know things are gonna get out of there anyways, I'm going spicy. Yeah, maybe you get some Thai food or something or have some spicy wings. Or honestly, Nashville hot chicken or buffalo wings

or something like that. I mean, it would make it horrible too, so I don't know if this is helpful. Sam, the consequences are locked in, you're gonna have some intestinal distress. What do you eat? I mean, I think I would, you know, probably shy away. I'm not like, oh, sick.

I'm definitely going to have diarrhea. Better go for it. Like, let's see if we can break the toilet. Uh, let's see how bad I can get it. Uh, but if I was doing that, you know, I was talking about earlier, I think I would get the hat. I think I would get a pastrami sandwich. Oh, yeah. Oh, pastrami's good.

And I think I would get their chili cheese fries. That's a great answer. Chili cheese fries and pastrami. And then maybe a side hot dog. That's a great. That's the best answer, I think, so far. Wow. Yeah, that is an excellent answer.

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we're excited, it's May 1st, is when it's going to be available there, and then pretty soon, right around the corner, there's going to be a box set. Oh, awesome. So excited about that. Wow, like physical media. Yeah, physical media the corner, there's gonna be a box set. Oh, awesome. So excited about that. Wow, like physical media. Yeah, physical media.

Oh, that's awesome. And then our other big news is that we got into the Tribeca Film Festival with our movie Mars. Oh, that's awesome. Congrats. And then also really quick, I got a shout out that a friend of mine is suffering from stage four cancer and I'm doing a GoFundMe for her.

So I've got links to it on my Instagram is suffering from stage four cancer and I'm doing a GoFundMe for her. So I've got links to it on my Instagram and so that's at that Sam Brown, but if you search Elizabeth Hayhurst on. Oh, yeah, Elizabeth. Yeah, yeah. I donate as well, please support, yeah, yeah, yeah. Please support.

We'll post about that. We'll make a donation ourselves. Going through a hard time and if you just wanna help someone out ourselves. Going through a hard time. And if you just want to help someone out and help them through a hard time in their life, please help. Yeah, that'd be great. Shout out to Elizabeth and Jesse. Yeah, shout out.

Yeah, that's very exciting. The birthday boys were at, when you came into LA, UCB LA on Franklin, you did your live show before, I think maybe before the show premiered, we were there watching you and laughing it up. It was great. Yeah, I was like, oh, you guys are like, laughing like it's your birthday, right?

And we were like, it was very much like the Han Solo getting his name. Yeah. Yeah. It was just a bunch of birthday boys sitting around here, huh? We started writing, that's when we started writing in the theater.

But we've known each other a long time. You're one of the good ones. Thank you for doing the pod. Awesome to have you on the show. It was so fun. Surprised? I'm not one of the bad members of White is Kids. I'm one of the good members. I'm one of the good ones in comedy.

Yeah. The Timmy guy sucks. No, he doesn't. White as kids, you know. Shout TV. That'll do it for this episode of Doughboys. Until next time, for the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating.

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