Doughboys - Jollibee with Jonah Ray
Episode Date: June 9, 2016It's the long awaited appearance of actor and comedian Jonah Ray (Hidden America, the Nerdist podcast), who discusses foods of his home state of Hawaii and reviews Filipino fast food sensation Jollibe...e. Star Wars: The Force Awakens is again in our sights with the return of segment Cereal.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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3,000 worldwide locations, 14,000 employees, 62 billion in annual revenue.
Numbers like these may conjure images of American megachains like McDonald's, Taco Bell, or
KFC.
Yet the franchise I'm describing is largely invisible to the West.
Flashback to 1898, when Spain's crushing naval defeat in the Spanish-American War led
them to surrender their overseas colonies to U.S. hands, Puerto Rico, Cuba, and the
7,000-island archipelago collectively known as the Philippines.
The Filipino people, understandably upset at having their sovereignty used as a bargaining
chip, rebelled for independence, igniting the Philippine-American War the next year.
The conflict led to a prolonged U.S. military presence that would leave a heavy imprint
on the nation's economy and cultural identity over the course of the 20th century.
This was certainly the case in 1978 in the Filipino metropolis of Quezon City, where
entrepreneur Tony Tan Cac-Tiang converted his fledgling ice cream parlor into a hot dog
and fried chicken stand.
The outlet's ability to adapt American food to local taste made this sensation, and expanded
throughout the islands by opening new locations and via savvy acquisitions of its competitors.
By the 90s, it had a massive presence across much of the Eastern Hemisphere and embarked
on some colonialism of its own, expanding the U.S. shores.
So how will its yum burgers, chicken joys, and sweet spaghetti be received by canals
like us?
This week on Doughboys, Jollibee.
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I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host, Les Articulat-Hodor, Mike Mitchell, the Spoonman.
How you doing, Spoonman?
Motherfucker.
That insult was courtesy of Jay Rock.
Thanks, Jay.
And if you have an insult of your own you'd like me to use on Mitch at the top of the
show, go ahead and email roastspoonman at gmail.com.
What's his name, Jay Rocker?
Jay Rock.
Jay Rock.
Wait, is this the guy who, didn't he already submit one?
No, I don't think so.
Did he?
Because I thought I was going to use a rock to smash his head in before.
I think that's just a default thing you say about people, because you're an ogre of
a man.
Well, I'm going to fucking Jay Rock, I'm going to smash your fucking head in with a rock.
Like a piece of shit.
I will say this, the people submitting are much funnier than you.
I understand why you've outsourced your, like this process has taught me why you've outsourced
the creation of your drops to our community at large, because I have a lot of very talented
and clever people out there.
Speaking of which.
I've been forgotten, I've been married a long time ago.
Where did you come from?
Where did you go?
Where did you come from?
Howdy ho!
King in the castle, king in the castle.
What?
Every chair, every chair.
Okay!
I'm a boy, I'm a boy.
Hala, filious squalor.
Don't get it!
Who is that bitch?
Enmich the fury, Mitch.
He's tasty.
He's tasty, Mitch.
Right?
Fried potatoes?
Better eat them, Mitch.
Before I do.
I have an impulse, Greg.
Could you help me?
This episode of...
Great.
You put in a little, uh, your, uh, your wolf thing at the end there.
Now you and I both know Scott Ackerman.
How enraged do you think that would make him on a scale of nine to ten?
Well, the idea of me probably gets him to a nine.
So I'm guessing ten.
Gotcha.
That was from, uh, Eloy Lugo.
Hey.
At Eloy V. Saloi, I'm butchering this, but that's his, uh, Twitter handle.
Sorry, buddy.
Sorry for butchering your name, but thank you so much for the drop.
Uh, speaking of drops.
Yeah.
You have, you've, you've, you've, we've had a conversation about these drops.
Yes.
You came to me and you're like, meh, I was like, yeah, what's up, Nick?
And you were like, your drops are too long.
You got to keep them at 30 or under.
It's true what you say about me being a cook.
That's all true.
Wait, you think, you think I have the cadence and, uh, a vocal tone of Luigi from Luigi's
mansion?
I was going more with, uh, what's he man's cat?
Cringer.
Cringer when he doesn't turn into, he turns into battle cat when, when, uh, Adam, Prince
Adam turns into he man.
You're a lot like Cringer.
Oh my gosh.
But with this drop stuff, you got to cut it out.
That's what you said to me.
I said, all right, all right.
He said, please just keep it to a minute or under 30 seconds at best.
And I said, fine, I'll do it.
That wasn't just a complaint that came from me, Mitch.
That came from like, numerous people.
I had a few people say that to me in person who listed the show, people, friends of ours
who listed the show.
And then while we had a number of people engaging in the Twitter account and email, the Dough
Boys email and let us know that last, you had a five minute drop a few episodes back
that was just excessive and gratuitous.
Oh wow.
All right.
Well, the, the cuck has unleashed his, uh, his order.
The cuck order is in full effect and you, uh, please try to keep it to 30 seconds or
under because, uh, Nick will go crazy apparently and, uh, he's steaming mad right now.
I think it'll make the whole show, the whole show flow better.
I think it'll, it'll stop this, uh, it'll keep this from being the bloated mess that
it usually is the top of the show.
So I applaud you for making that concession, Mitch.
Cuck off.
All right.
Let's introduce our guest.
You know him from the Nerdist podcast, from the Meltdown, the hilarious new show Hidden
America, which now has all episodes streaming on CISO.
Jonah Ray is here.
Hi Jonah.
Hi guys.
Thank you for coming.
Thanks for having me.
I can't tell you what an honor it is to show up almost a year to the week.
I was invited.
This has been a long time coming.
It's been a long time coming.
We wanted to have you on for something special and then I fucked up.
And we, uh, let's break down what happened.
We were working on Hidden America where you were a, uh, a writer, performer on.
That's correct.
Uh, had a blast.
Yes.
I'm keeping away.
Everybody's having fun.
Everyone's having a blast.
No tension in the room whatsoever.
That was the one thing I didn't know about having the show is that I would have to deal
with individual writers coming up to me going, Hey, we got to talk about so and so.
It wasn't me always.
Yeah.
It was always you talking about everyone else in the room.
Somebody keeps eating everyone's lunches.
Fuck you.
It was great though, uh, that, uh, Mike in the room consistently late, just consistently
always late and it was always like it was the first time it happened.
I don't know what happened today.
It's like he's, it's like he's surprised that when he leaves, like he has 30 minutes
of drive time ahead of him and he leaves 10 minutes in advance and then it's like he doesn't
understand why the math doesn't work out.
It's like, how did this?
I don't know.
I like it.
I left 20 minutes late and somehow I'm arriving 20 minutes late.
I don't know what happened guys.
Well, he'll do, he did this thing once where it's, uh, he's like, he came in hour late.
I was like, Hey, I thought we were going to start a little earlier today to catch up.
You're like, well, I came all the way from Silver Lake.
And I'm like, that's different from any other day.
You know what?
And I like the both of you because you don't seem to care too much about it or you've just
given up both of you.
It doesn't bother me too much.
I'm not the most punctual man myself.
I try my best, but they're, they're times when life gets in the way and also too.
I mean, it's usually not a huge problem, but you are consistently late, but sometimes
I'm on time.
Yeah.
No, sometimes you are on time.
Um, you were actually close to being on time to this thing that we shot this past weekend,
uh, the two of us, but you ended up, uh, arriving five minutes late to the wrong location.
Well, who knew there were two of them for real?
I honestly did not know there were two of them.
Yeah.
There were two, two different, uh, facilities with the same name and you ended up going to
the wrong one.
It was an honest mistake.
That's a fair.
Yeah.
That's an honest mistake.
And I'm, I'm late.
You know, when it comes to the Nerdist podcast, I'm always late.
One time I was, uh, so late, uh, to a show that we were doing in Michigan that I just
didn't make it.
And I was, I was on the plane and the plane got delayed and that's how much time I gave
myself to fly out there.
The plane was delayed three hours and I was like, not making that show.
Can't make it.
Sorry.
So I called in, gave the kids a little taste, but anyway, so that's the best kind of performance
one where you don't have to go.
Oh man.
I was walking down in Vermont.
I would got some ice cream.
It was the best.
I wasn't in Michigan.
Sorry for all you cheeseheads out there.
I don't know.
But at Michigander, what do you call a Michigan person?
Upes.
Upes.
Man, maybe Upes.
Yeah.
Mittens.
We call mittens.
There you go.
That sounds right.
That's the correct term for it, right?
For Michigan people.
Michigan Indians.
Michiganians.
Michiganians.
Yeah.
Michiganians sounds good.
Weiger.
I'm sticking with Mittens.
Yeah.
Mittens.
I like Mittens.
Jesus.
So we're working.
You guys, you know, you're doing this podcast.
It's going great.
Mike's talking about it.
He's so excited.
Oh yeah.
And then he says...
Raver views.
Yeah.
Mike's saying that he, he's like, oh, you should, you, you, you, you should do the podcast.
Jesus.
Sounds like you're being tickled for God's sake.
I'm having a great time.
It was a fun dynamic.
Are you going to get people in here?
I mean, this is a, it's long overdue.
I knew this was going to come.
I knew this was going to be a, it was going to be a roast spoon man type of episode.
But I'm going to get someone in here who's going to just beat the shit out of Weiger
with me.
And I mean physically.
If anyone do that, he's so funny and handsome and he's so un-Mike Mitchell-like.
It's just, I think that's the one thing people always say about Weiger is just how un-like
Mitch is.
That is true.
Yeah.
Very different what I'm happy about.
We're yin and yang.
Yeah.
It's a, it's a good dynamic.
It's a lot of fun to listen to.
Oh, thanks for saying that, Jonah.
Yeah.
My friend Donald has nothing to do with comedy.
Loves the show.
Oh, how about that?
Hey Donald.
Thanks for listening.
Hey Donald.
I saw him not too long ago and he's like, you know what podcast you should do, the
Doughboys.
And I said, fuck you.
So here's, here's, let me, let me break it down.
Jonah is from Hawaii.
He's a legit Hawaiian man.
Let's not, let's not go crazy.
We're going to go Hawaiian by, you know, state birth by state birth, but you, you, you were
born and raised in Hawaii.
And so was, yeah, my dad and his dad and his dad.
Yeah.
They're not Hawaiian.
Generations of race.
I'm sorry.
I have lived in Hawaii.
You wanted to go to one specific restaurant with us.
You told me in the writer's room, which restaurant you wanted to go to.
Yes.
And you said that was a great idea.
Great idea.
Oh man.
We'll deal with your roots and we'll have a lot of fun.
We'll taste some food I've never tried before.
And you just got in your head.
I started telling you about the food.
You're like, some good food.
It sounded great.
And then we did it and it was great, but it was with Eugene Cordero.
Now Eugene Cordero, for all intents and purposes, looks like he's actually from Hawaii more
so than I do.
He's a Filipino gentleman, but he's not from there.
That's right.
He's not.
He's, he's, he's from New York city.
Yeah.
With roots in the Philippines.
With roots in the Philippines.
Yes.
And you were, hmm, I think I would say not livid.
I'd say perplexed more so, is actually the word for it that I, that I had gone to this
place without you.
Well, so Mike comes in and I, you know, we talk a while about the food.
Mike comes in the next week going, oh man, I had such good food.
You would love it.
It's called L and L Hawaiian barbecue.
And I was like, wait, what, are you in?
What?
He's like, yeah, yeah, we did it with Cordero for the dope boys.
And I was like, what?
And I thought it was a bit.
But then I realized Mike doesn't do bits like that.
Yeah, no.
You don't do faux sincerity.
No.
You start to, and then you feel really bad for lying.
And then you start to apologize profusely.
I'm a sincere man, yes.
You kind of have like a, kind of like a memento man kind of memory where the only thing you
can actually retain are grudges.
Anyone is wrong Jew or anyone who is wrong, the New England Patriots, you'll remember
that forever.
But any sort of like minor obligation or appointment or previous thing you've agreed
to, those things are all out the window.
Well, it makes sense that I think about you the most.
I fucked up bad.
Even in my head right now, it's very good that you are the one who said L and L because
I almost said, oh no, again, which I know, that's what that's what that's what fucked
me up is that I always thought you wanted to do.
There's two, there are two Hawaiian chains.
Yes, two Hawaiian plate lunch chains.
There's L and L, which was started in Hawaii.
And there's Oh No, which is I think, I believe a Japanese company.
And that started in California or something like that.
And we reviewed L and L with Eugene, four forks all around, got in the Golden Plate Club.
I love that L and L.
But what did you spend most of your time talking about, which was Jollibee?
You spent a lot of time talking about Jollibee, which is a Filipino restaurant, as mentioned
in the intro.
And so, and yeah, there's certainly a place that Eugene had some interest in.
But L and L, like he also had some attachment to because even though he's not Hawaiian,
like the flavor profiles and everything sort of remind like we're very familiar to him.
And he's a big fan of Hawaii.
Yeah, and he loves Hawaii.
Yeah.
When I did Drunk History, I told a story.
He played the main character in the story and he has a very strong connection and affinity
with Hawaii.
And we always, when me and Eugene talk about Hawaii all the time, because he likes to go
there and take trips there.
You guys should have a Hawaii podcast.
I want to start a podcast for, you know, like South Pacific Foods called the Pinoy Boys.
That's great.
Yeah.
But can I give just my thoughts on this?
You can't be on it, Mitch.
I'm saying, here's my thoughts coming off a food podcast.
Don't just don't do it or don't do it with why you're here.
There are certainly, I mean, there are definitely some health consequences to having a food
podcast.
I mean, certainly a food podcast like ours where you just have to indulge in unhealthy
food.
We get new chairs shipped to the studio every week.
Yeah, this is the worst.
This is like, it's like, we're on these tall chairs that wobble, that creak and move.
And also, it's a tall kind of barstool chair where it's hard to sit skinny.
We just had so much food and I feel like I'm just flowing over this.
They really perched you up on these chairs in here.
It's a professional studio.
It hasn't been some reason for having these.
Justin, what's the reason?
Let's hear it.
He has some reason.
He's coming with one.
What is he saying?
Let's see here.
I'm not hearing him in our headphones.
I can hear you now.
So, Dustin, now the audience couldn't hear you, right?
We could only hear you in our headphones.
Okay, so what Dustin is saying is that because the way the studio is built for the acoustics
of the recording, everyone needs to be at a certain height in order for it to sound
correct.
So we're perched a little higher, so we're basically at standing height if we're sitting.
You know what?
I'm going to start a campaign.
Tweet at Dan Harmon, say, hashtag, get the Doughboy some beanbag chairs.
Please don't tweet at Dan Harmon of Star Burns.
He's very busy.
He's got a lot to do.
Dustin likes it.
We're hanging by a thread at Feral Audio.
We don't want to piss him off.
This is a beloved show.
Please don't take Mitch's cue.
This is a beloved show.
People will love this show.
They'll get us some beanbag chairs for the studio, as in everyone knows, beanbag chairs
are the most comfortable chair.
They're as bad as this, if not worse, I would say.
Like a beanbag chair always seems like it's going to be comfortable, and then you sit
in it and you can last five minutes.
They're really...
You get sweaty real fast on it, too.
It's like a water bed where it seems like a really cool idea for fucking.
You know what?
I never, when I was younger, I wanted a water bed, not for God.
That was the last thing on my mind, because I was like, oh, they seem fun.
It will be fun to be in a water bed, and it looks like a good time, and I've never thought
of one since.
They've kind of gone away.
They had a very specific era, I believe.
There was.
My parents, in the 80s, my parents had a water bed, and I think that was kind of like when
people would potentially have them.
Did your parents free your parents' swingers?
Looking back, perhaps, they were very conservative people, but yeah, I could see that potentially
being a part of their lifestyle.
I used to like taking naps on the water bed, because it felt weird and cool, and I thought
it was a cool thing as a kid.
Is that how you shit your pants and go to boner?
No, no.
That was a different incident, much later in life.
But there's a Freddy.
There's a nightmare on L Street Movie where there's a guy in a water bed, and he's having
a nightmare, and then he pulls back the covers, and underneath the water bed, there's like
a mermaid swimming up, and he's like, oh, it's a mermaid.
It's a mermaid, and then the mermaid swims back down out of sight, and then Freddy swims
up and rips through the water bed, and fucking kills the guy.
And after I saw that Freddy, I wanted nothing to do with that water bed, because I had all
these, and this nightmarish imagery associated with it.
Classic Freddy bait and switch with the mermaid.
Yeah.
Freddy appears.
It seems like one thing at first, it's a completely different thing, like a nurse in
part three.
Oh, that nurse is great, because that was like, that was a very early pair of boobs that I
saw.
I think I was like eight or nine.
Last pair?
Yeah, that was the last pair of boobs I seen.
You've seen single boobs since then, bro.
But yeah, like a nurse, there's like a guy's in a hospital, and like a sexy nurse like
takes her top off, and then, but then her like tongue lashes out, right?
And like ties him to his wrist and ankles to the bed.
Yeah.
And then the mattress falls out, and then it's a bunch of fire, I think, the depths
of hell.
Three is one I haven't seen in a long time, but I always say it's my favorite.
Three years of...
Dream Warriors.
Dream Warriors.
Yeah, that is a good one.
Yeah, Dream Warriors and Dream Master are peak Freddy.
It's four are the one where he turns the girl into a cockroach.
Yeah, that's part four.
Part four is really like, I like it.
And it's like...
And it's a time loop thing where they get stuck in a loop?
Yeah, and it's hard to watch.
There's like a lot of like kind of crazy deaths and fucked up shit in that one.
Yeah, I enjoy those movies quite a bit.
Have you guys ever seen Freddy versus Jason?
Yeah, I saw him in theaters.
That's Freddy versus Jason.
When I was in theaters, wait, could this have been recent, wait, how recent was Freddy
versus Jason?
It was like 2003 or something?
I think so.
That sounds about right.
Our podcast is kind of like Freddy versus Jason.
You a pedophile, me a lumbering, oh, slow man who has mother issues.
You know, I'll take it because you're the one who can barely speak, and Freddy is actually
pretty clever and witty, so I'll take the compliment, Mitch.
You want to be that burnt pedophile?
Of the two, I think I'd rather be the guy who can maybe has a dark past, but can come
up with a clever bone mole every now and then.
That's true.
The Freddy and Jason of podcasting, that's us.
And in the end, you were talking about your mother issues, he is his mother.
Oh, that's right.
In the first one.
Jason is the mother.
In the first one he is.
Later he becomes a zombified man.
It really, they really had a lot of liberties with that, and they go to spate.
Like any horror franchise that goes on too long, they end up in space, leprechaun, or
critters.
Critters were from space, and yet they go back to space.
I remember Jason X, I thought it was so clever when I went to the theater and I asked for
my ticket, I was like, one for J-Songs, please.
How did they put you out of the theater?
Jason X, just ten.
Just ten.
Give me the fucking ticket.
Well, Jonah, you worked, we have this in common, I worked at a movie theater, and you also
worked at a movie theater.
I worked at a cinema.
Oh, God, I knew this would happen.
I worked at The Arclight, which is a fancy, nice theater.
It's a fancy place, yeah.
The quality's kind of gone down a little bit, I'd say.
Well, they've spread out.
They're all over it now.
They're in Chicago and stuff like that, but yeah, it was a weird, it's a very fancy
pants theater, and I had to introduce movies and all that stuff.
They kept on trying to teach me how to make caramel corn, because they have really good
caramel corn there.
Yeah.
That's right.
This never happened to anyone else, apparently, but I cut the caramel corn on fire somehow.
I let it simmer for too much, and it just became this sugary burst of flame, and they're
like, all right, you don't have to do that anymore.
It was the best job I ever had.
I used to go, I watched so many movies I would've never watched, not because they were artsy,
but just because they were bad.
I saw the Amityville Horror remake probably five times, just because I was like, there
was nothing else to do.
I found a handicapped bathroom that no one would ever use.
It was just like you walk in and there's just one stult, like you know, one.
You jerk off in there?
Yeah, a bunch.
But I also had a really big counter, had a really big counter, so I would take naps
on it.
That's the thing about, not to be so crude, but jerking off at work is, I think everyone
should try it.
I think if you can get away with it, it's probably quite illegal.
It's like, if you jerk off during your 15 minute break, you're still getting paid, you're
being paid to jerk off, and I think it's kind of makes it more exciting.
Don't get too excited, you're going to start fucking rubbing himself in the fucking podcast.
I'm not going to jerk off here.
There was a, when I worked at Activision, I worked in Quality Assurance, which was game
testing for a while, and we all worked in this gigantic basement with like 200 chairs.
But it might still be there though, on Ocean Park in Santa Monica, and it's just like the
most disgusting work environment, because it's like a 95% male workforce.
And then it's just all these sweaty guys, just like all clustered together, super tight,
all just playing video games, nonstop, testing them for bugs.
And then there's just huge trash cans all throughout, because there's just so much
trash is being generated, so it just smells like garbage, and it's super hot, and all
these guys are sweaty.
And then the most disgusting bathroom on earth was the bathroom that was in that basement,
because it was, there was a men's room, and there's a women's room, the women's room was
almost untouched, but the men's room was very heavily used, and there were like two urinals
and two stalls for like 200 guys.
And so it was just like so, so heavily used, but there was a guy who got caught like jerking
off in there repeatedly and fired.
And I was just like the idea of like, okay, if you're going to jerk off at work, that's
one thing if you have like a little, a little oasis, like you're describing Jonah that you
can retreat to, we're kind of away from everyone.
But to be like in a, in a basically like a, it's basically like a porta potty, like you're
basically in a porta potty with a bunch of other guys, and to be like jerking off in
there.
Well, maybe he wanted to see what it would be like to jerk off after the apocalypse,
and we're all working for some digital overlords, and he's like, oh man, this is a weird fantasy
come to life.
Also, I like how Nick was like, I'm with Jonah.
It's okay if you can jerk off in like a bigger bathroom.
He was joking.
It's not okay to jerk off.
I think if you have some privacy and you're not hurting anyone, it's the same as doing
anything in a restaurant.
Oh, what the fuck?
No, that's wrong.
That's disgusting.
But you're, you're like a real New England prude, Mike.
You're a real stifle.
No.
And it was crazy how racist you were.
And then you go, like, I can't believe the amount of stuff this guy says.
Oh yeah, that's so crazy.
It's so crazy.
I know, Mike.
It's nuts.
You both, I'm trying to paint me as a racist.
I'm one of the most forward thinking men there is.
You know what kind of people say that?
Racist.
No, I'm not.
Quincy is a liberal safe haven.
But where, what city is in there?
Boston.
Oh yeah, yeah.
You're crazy racist.
No.
And there was the best, when we shot the episode of American Boston, there was like all these
things everyone kept on making fun of Boston for, and Mike was like, it's not, it's not
like that.
It's a nice place, and like everything came true.
No, people love, the crew is like saying how they loved Boston.
People love Boston.
It's a great place.
Oh no.
There was, there was a time where we were walking and there was like these three old ladies
like walking across the street, and they all, all of them tripped like over the curb, and
they all fell down, and there was a guy like a Bostonian construction worker with a hard
hat and a reflective vest, and he stepped over them going, ha ha ha, faggots.
Wait, that was on our shoot?
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, and you were that guy.
And I said, Mike, don't use that word, and you're like, don't, don't, don't tell anybody.
This is, just so people know this is not me at all.
This is not like me.
I will not be painted in this terrible way.
Moving on.
Ha ha ha.
I'm so uncomfortable.
When it comes down to it, I push him on it, and I can't, I can't even speak about it.
It sounds like, see, you're getting called out for it, and you just can't handle it.
This is awful.
This is.
Anyways, I have a kitten update.
Ha ha ha.
I have a kitten story.
Oh, a kitten can't be a monster, can't be a racist.
I'm not.
You're getting so flustered, Mike.
If it wasn't true, why would you get so upset?
It's not true.
Spoon Nation knows it's, Spoon Nation knows it's not true.
Spoon Nation, an affront to the people that use chopsticks.
Oh my God.
You like are just like disregarding an entire part of the world that doesn't use spoons.
Spoon Nation sounds like the Aryan Nation every time you say it to me.
What do you guys want me to do?
Do you want me to flip out and be like, you're right, that is me.
Ha ha ha.
Because it's not true.
None of it is true.
I had a kitten update I want to tell you about.
I got two kittens, by the way.
I've lost my mind since you've last hung out with me.
No, when I saw you posted it on Instagram, right?
And when I was scrolling through it, I saw that you got two kittens.
And what I literally said out loud to my wife was, make sense.
Ha ha ha ha.
I, I have a story.
The bathroom talk was actually what reminded me of it.
I was going to the bathroom and sorry, that's gross to begin with.
These, these two little kittens, man, I love these two kittens now.
I'm, I'm in.
I'm keeping them.
I already said it, but they crawl up and they crawl into my, crawled into my underwear.
And they're sitting in my underwear as I'm sitting on the toilet.
I'm sorry, again, gross, but they're just sitting in there looking up at me and I thought
it was the cutest thing on earth.
So I took a, what, what do you, why, ugh, oh no.
It was really cute.
What part, what time of day was this?
This is daytime.
Daytime?
Yeah.
How long have you been in the underwear?
It was pants and underwear.
It was a combo of the two.
Well, what are they touching most of them?
It was on the ground.
They weren't in, they, my pants weren't up for God's sake.
They were sitting in my empty underpants.
Okay.
That were on the ground.
I was sitting on the fucking toilet for God's sake.
You're the creep.
Wiger, you're the one who's a weird one.
They sat in my, my pants in my underwear, I took a photo of them.
I sent it to my, I sent it to a couple of people and I sent it to my mom and my mom was
like, that's weird.
Never sent this again.
And it was the cutest thing I ever seen and they got up and left.
I pulled my pants up, covered in cat piss.
They had jumped in my pants and they had taken two big cat pisses or one big cat piss.
I don't know what it was.
That's the worst kind of piss.
It was the worst kind of piss.
Yeah.
Soaked.
It was soaked in cat urine.
Did you find this out when you put your pants back on?
Yeah.
Oh.
Yeah.
The kittens kind of, kind of punked you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The kittens, I guess, punked me.
Are you trying to say the kittens aren't on my side?
I think they kind of...
Well, what color are the cats?
Oh my God.
They're black and white, like the Michael Jackson song.
They're both.
And I love both halves of them to your God.
I will be not...
Boston is a progressive forward thinking city and I don't know how that, how the perception
of it changed over the years, but it's not true.
Mitch, I have a question for you.
What?
These kittens...
You piece of shit.
Yeah.
These kittens, what sins do you think they committed in the past life to be reincarnated
as living under your care?
How have you know that I treat these kittens very, very well?
Where do you get their food from?
Petco.
Okay.
I get them under one year.
What are you going to make some joke about how I tasted or something?
You fucking asshole.
I'm not going to ask what way do you try to fatten them up to.
Weigar has already stated that I'm going to put them in some sort of ogre stew.
Weigar, it's funny.
I sent Weigar a picture of the kittens and he was like, he's like, send me another one,
but further down between their legs.
Isn't that right?
That's not true at all.
You want to see a little kitten genitalia?
I want to see a kitten.
I actually don't even know what kitten genitalia looks like.
I can tell you.
They're running all over the place.
I see those things.
Why'd you get two, though?
Well...
Because you're like, here's the thing.
You're a single guy.
Yeah.
And you got a cat.
I'm like, yeah, the single guy.
Like that sitcom.
Like Jonathan Silverman.
Jonathan Silverman.
I think you're going to have a fun single guy lifetime.
Yeah, Ernst Boylein is your doorman.
Which is strange that in an apartment, a single unit goes up to the street.
Was Ming-Na on that show?
I think she was.
Possibly.
An early role for Ming-Na?
I don't really know who Ming-Na is.
Who is she?
She's now on...
I think she's on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Oh.
Am I wrong about that?
Are you fucking nerd?
I'm going to look up Ming-Na as IMDb.
It's good to get them in pairs with kittens.
It's good to get them in...
In pairs.
In pairs.
They're playing with each other.
They're having fun.
Sure.
Do you still have a roommate?
Nope.
Oh, okay.
So, I got an office slash cat room, kitten room for the kittens, and they climb kitten
trees and they have fun in there.
Who's going to watch them when you go to Portland?
I'm going to have someone check in on them.
I haven't figured that out yet, but...
Just someone?
You don't...
I thought you said you cared about these kittens.
I'm going to get a friend.
A friend of the podcast, Armin Weitzman, will look after them.
Oh, that will stress them out too much.
I definitely won't let Nick watch them.
That's for sure.
That's a long way to drive just to look at some cat junk.
Well, now it's...
Yeah.
Ming-Na did in fact play Trudy on the single guy on three seasons of the single guy.
She's also the voice of Mulan in Mulan, perhaps her most famous role, and currently you can
see her as Melinda May on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Oh.
Wow, all the listeners on the edge of their seat.
You know what?
This reminds me, during the intro, you said Archipelago.
Yeah.
Isn't it Archipelago?
It might be.
Dumbass, bitch.
That's one of those words I've only read.
I don't think I've ever heard it aloud.
Archipelago, Archipelago?
Well, I'm from an Archipelago.
Okay.
I trust you on this.
Here's a dumb guy question.
What is that?
It's just a collection of islands, a collection of small islands.
Yeah, of course.
Oh, I knew that.
And I knew how to say it right.
Anyways, so let's get back to your Hawaiian roots before this all got derailed and you
guys claimed I was a racist.
I wasn't making a claim.
Oh, my God.
I'm just like, you know, as you guys know, I do stand-up comedy.
I just make observations about what everyone else is thinking.
Spoon Man, I've got labeled as a bully on this show.
But I would wager with anyone.
If you met Nick Wier and hung out with him for more than five minutes, you would bully
the shit out of him, too.
He's the most bully-able man there is.
I don't think that's true.
It is true.
Anyone could kick your ass.
I think I'm a little nuts, not anyone.
Jesus, who's the bully now?
Yeah.
Just look at this guy.
Everyone could kick his ass.
But they call me a bully.
All I talk about is I'm a nice man.
People like me.
I'm a nice man.
Don't paint me the wrong way.
You know, I realize people that say that the most like, I'm a good person and I hate drama.
But you know what?
It's true about me.
I'm one of the ones that it's actually true about.
When they say they're a nice guy, it turns out they're right.
Anyways, let's get to your Hawaiian roots and how I fucked up with...
Just tell us.
What did we do wrong with L&L?
I think that's the...
Nothing.
It was a great episode.
But we did fuck some stuff up, right?
Didn't we mispronounce something at least?
Oh yeah, yeah.
You guys were saying Musubi.
Okay.
It's Musubi.
Musubi, okay.
Yeah.
Musubi.
And then when I heard Eugene not only correct, he didn't correct you, but he also started
saying it too, which is he was probably just intimidated by Mike and his, you know, issues
with race.
He's the captain of Spoon Nation.
I love Eugene.
Dear God.
Yeah, he's an ambassador for all people that, you know, don't use spoons.
Dear God.
Remember how much he used to say the N-word in the writer's room?
Oh my God, that's so untrue.
This is all fake.
In the Boston stories, none of this is true.
Dear God, this is going to be a big...
I'm going to have to apologize or something.
None of this is true.
I'm a good man.
I'm a good man.
I admit you are a good man, but I also feel like you're like three minutes away from having
a Michael Richards moment on the podcast.
What the fuck?
Fuck you.
Oh, shit.
You're wrong.
It's like five seconds away.
I hate fucking white people.
I hate YouTube.
Fucking white asshole pieces of shit.
I fucking hate you.
I hope the white race gets fucking wiped out and destroyed.
How's that?
Maybe that's strange.
Too far, Mike.
Too far.
Rain it in.
Some people are just heard that and are now voting Trump.
All right, so let's talk Hawaiian food.
We don't have...
You guys talked in length about Hawaiian food.
But I am kind of curious in your perspective as someone from Hawaii, and the Hawaiian plate
lunch is something that I enjoy.
And if you haven't heard the L&L Hawaiian barbecue episode, if you're new to the podcast, basically
what you're dealing with is some rice, a couple scoops of rice, typically a macaroni
salad and some sort of protein.
Mac salad.
Mac salad.
Yeah.
Yeah, two scoops of rice.
Scoop a mac salad.
And then you get kind of, you know, you want cubby ribs or barbecue chicken or chicken
katsu.
Put some katsu sauce on that.
Love that chicken katsu.
Yeah, chicken katsu is pretty great.
Do you have a favorite?
Usually I get the mixed barbecue plate.
Gotcha.
So I get some barbecue chicken, cubby ribs, and that's it.
I think on that one, it's just those two.
So outside of the plate lunch, which I think is kind of the staple and maybe is the Hawaiian
food that's easiest to get in the mainland, in the contiguous U.S., what is the...
What other Hawaiian food or Hawaiian delights do you miss from your days living there?
Or do you try to get when you go back?
Hawaiian delights, Jesus Christ.
Fine thing to say.
Maybe a little awkward, but it's a fine thing to say.
What sort of California delights do you indulge in, Nick?
Fucking, I'm mad at both of you.
Fuck both of you.
Hey!
I didn't say Hawaiian delights.
I'm not an idiot.
I'm going to know what you're doing for words.
Malasadas, which is kind of like a Portuguese doughnut, fried dough rolled in powdered sugar.
You go to Leonard's to get malasadas over there.
My grandmother, in Hawaii, it's not like Fat Tuesday, we call it malasada day.
And so you make a bunch of malasadas, and then my grandmother, who's very Portuguese,
would make malasadas.
That was great.
Manapua, you can get manapua from anything.
It's like a pork bun, terso bun.
There would be like manapua men.
It was like an ice cream truck, but they would just sell manapua.
Oh, wow.
You can also get like, at 7-Eleven, you can get manapua, you can get spam musubis, chicken
cuts and musubis, just from where you get the rolled pizza stuff at 7-Eleven.
Is that like 7-Eleven Calibre, or is that pretty good over there?
Oh, it's great.
I mean, that's the great part about a lot of Hawaiian foods, it doesn't have to be
that good.
Gotcha.
Because of just the elements.
There's not too many things you could fuck up to really ruin it.
With a musubi, too much rice is kind of a problem, or if it's sitting too long and then
the seaweed gets a little...
That's what's so great about the Elinol, and you guys went to the wrong one, you went
to the Glendale one.
You should have gone to the one in Igora, because they have like all these other Hawaiian foods
that you could have got there.
You could have got malasadas, you could have got haupia, which is a great kind of coconut
gelatin thing treat that's very, very good, lomi lomi salmon, you can get pork lao lao.
I was like shredded pork, but it's in a tea leaf and slow roasted, something like that.
Those are all things that I really do miss, and I'm able to get them.
There are ruts in Culver City, it's probably the best Hawaiian food you can get in Los
Angeles.
Ruts is very good.
Yeah, but we'll go sometime.
I'd love to.
It's just the one spot that it's not a chain.
It's not a chain, so yeah.
Okay, cool.
Can't go.
Can't go to it.
I do, but the thing is, it's bad food for you.
Yeah, sure.
It's not good.
When I'm feeling anxious or I want to kind of just indulge, I usually just go to L&L
to eat some stuff that's bad for me.
Luckily, I've been able to curb it so I get the mini plate instead of the full plate, because
no matter what's in front of me, I'll finish it.
Yeah.
Is there a lot of crossover with this Filipino food, with Hawaiian food, because tonight there
were some tastes that were, I mean, just the fact alone that we had a spam kind of sandwich,
I don't know what that was called, but a spam sandwich.
I think it was just called a spam sandwich.
Yeah, a spam sandwich.
Yeah.
And there was a couple other things that were.
It was real Hawaiian delight, the name.
And there was a Hawaiian bun and just mayo.
It was very simple.
Yeah.
But like we said, the mayo was doing the heavy lifting on that though.
For sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes it's like you go, I love artichoke, no you don't.
You don't love artichoke.
You love mayonnaise.
Yeah.
But we're talking Weiger spoonfuls here.
This is like a big mayo spoonful.
I love my mayo.
Do you see a lot of crossover or is it kind of, did it begin and end with that spam sandwich?
No, I mean, but the thing is there's so much Filipino influence on the food in Hawaii anyway.
The fried chicken did kind of feel like the fried chicken you would get in Hawaii.
That's not chicken katsu.
Sure.
Like the chicken, but you know, you would also, in Hawaii, you can get chicken adobo,
which is a very good vinegary style of chicken, which is great.
But yeah, there's a lot of stuff though that I did not recognize and have been confused
by for a long time.
Well, also too.
And I'm certainly no expert on the history of this particular restaurant Jollibee, but
it seems like there's a lot of American influence on Jollibee and it's kind of an interpretation
of, it's kind of a Filipino interpretation of American food more than it's a, or American
or fast food maybe rather, more than it's authentic Filipino food.
Because I think the Filipino food that you'll see will be a little different than, you know,
it's not like fried chicken and hot dogs are the national cuisine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, just saying like, you know, McDonald's doesn't represent America, burgers and fries.
Yeah.
Sure.
But this, you know, it's only a fraction of what really is there.
You know, World War II just influenced what, what, how a lot of food got made, you know,
in South Korea, there's this kind of soupy, like, it's like ramen noodle, spam, hot dogs.
It's just like a bunch of stuff thrown into this, you know, and ketchup, it's hot sauce.
It's all this kind of weird stuff that you throw into the soup and it's all just kind
of, if you break down and look at the lineage of where all the ingredients come from, it's
like, you know, it's all stuff left over from when the soldiers were there.
So all the stockades that were raided by, you know, it's like all just like, oh, ramen
noodles.
Oh, spam.
Oh, this.
And then they just throw it all together.
Just, you know, as Ratatouille is essentially, you know, a fancy dish that started off as
a peasant meal and same with like sushi, it was like, you know, it was sold on carts in
Japan.
It was, it was for, you know, the poorer class.
So here's my history with Jollibee.
I had no idea what it was.
When I first moved here, I didn't even know of it, which was, you know, 10 years ago
now.
I'm sure you drove by the one in Koreatown though, right?
I drove by the one in Koreatown, yes.
And I did not know what it was.
I was like, oh, it must be like a West Coast kind of like, I thought it was like a jack-in-the-box
because I didn't know what jack-in-the-box was either.
I was like, oh, Jollibee, it just seems kind of like a crappier jack-in-the-box or something.
Like, because they all look weird.
They have a B mascot, like an actual bumblebee mascot, and it just, it looks bizarre.
It's very Asian.
Yes, it is.
And I didn't realize it was a Filipino chain until like, I would say even like the last
four years or so.
I didn't, is when I found out.
Yeah, it's a weird name, but it's not like a name that necessarily evokes anything.
It could just as easily be like, oh, that's just a curious, it's like Cinnabon, it's just
kind of like a nonsense word for a franchise.
And same very much so with the names of all the items on the menu.
It's just like Jolli-Yum Burger.
Yeah.
Oh, Chicken Joy.
Yeah, Chicken Joy.
It's so weird because I feel like you could go to this chain not knowing what it was and
get a hot dog or a hamburger, and if you didn't know it was a Filipino restaurant, you'd
bite into it and be like, what the hell is going on?
Like this tastes fucking weird.
Like there's a hot dog was weird stuff, hot dog was weird stuff.
There's a lot of weird things.
And like you were saying, there's just, it's just kind of a, it's a melting pot of food.
It's a lot of different, it's a lot.
There's a lot of different components in it and a lot of different tastes, which I don't
sure if I love, like a, it's a very sweet food.
Everything we had tonight was very sweet.
Yeah.
And, and I'm not sure if it's a hundred percent my style of cuisine, but there were things
that were tasty and things that were, that I liked.
And then there were some stuff I, that was just a little too strange for me.
Yeah.
It's, it's an odd thing.
And there's, we, we got a lot of different types of things that we tried to, and this
was mainly Mitch wanted to try a bunch of everything.
And I was like, I don't know.
I don't know.
And he's like, no, but we should have as much of it as we can and we should eat as much
of it as we can.
Mitch, calm down.
You're yelling.
And he was like, shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
I'll go nuts in this place.
Yeah.
All right.
There are families here, man.
Yeah.
He's, he's, I'm going to throw my American money in these Filipino fuck's face.
We're like, Jesus, we can't take you anywhere.
Oh my dear God.
Especially Egorok.
And you're like, yeah, cause they're all here.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Um, let's get into our food a little bit.
If someone, if even one person tweets at me, that's fucked up, Mitch.
You two are going to fucking have hell to pay.
You know what?
I can beat up Weigar.
Jonah, I can't beat you up.
Tell me beat up Weigar.
Well, we'll call it, we'll call it even any chance again to a fight where I can sucker
punch you and say, I got confused, won't happen again.
Best friend.
All right.
So, so the three of us went together tonight just before recording.
We met in Eagle Rock, California.
Mitch was substantially late.
Um, we, we, uh, and we got a few different things to share.
So the first thing we got was what's called the bucket treat B, uh, which is a fried chicken
bucket of their chicken joy.
It's a six piece bucket.
As far as we could glean, it was all dark meat and it also comes with a large portion
of spaghetti, which is an unconventional side for a fried chicken, uh, restaurant.
And also we got three individual peach mango pies as part of that for $23.99.
The peach mango pies were kind of like McDonald's apple pies, but with sort of a peach mango
filling as you might infer.
We also got a spam sandwich, a hollow hollow, which was a thing that you, uh, you pointed
out Jonah and you can, you can describe for us a second and a couple of pineapple floats.
That was round one.
And let's start there.
And then we'll, we'll, we'll go, uh, from our thoughts on that, we'll, we'll move on
to the, the second, uh, round of food that we had before we even get going on that.
Yeah.
When it comes to fried chicken, how do you guys feel?
Are you white meat or dark meat?
I'm a white meat guy.
You're a white meat guy.
Yeah.
I like breasts.
Yeah.
I prefer dark meat, but if we're going to have a bucket, give me a little everything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The bucket for me is an indicator that there's a, there's a full bird in there.
And so when we get the bucket and it's all dark meat, I'm like, all right, I see what,
what hustle you're, you're pulling.
You are a fan of Freddie versus Jason, because that is the line from Freddie versus Jason.
It was like, how sweet dark meat.
The audience went nuts.
I remember.
Um,
Comell, uh, come on.
Johnny has the best joke about that where he, uh, he's watching it and he goes, how sweet
dark meat.
And everyone goes, oh, and it goes, really, that's when that's what's going to turn you
off for Freddie.
I get the molesting and the murdering of people in their sleep, but the race is a bit too
far, Freddie.
That was a bit too far.
That just pushed him over.
They, has it been another Freddie movie since?
Um, yes.
There was a, the remake with, um, uh, Haley Joel Osmond.
No.
Well, yeah.
Haley Joel Osmond.
That's Freddie.
Yeah.
Uh, tell us what you like better.
Dark meat or white meat?
Yeah, go ahead, Weigar.
Help me out here.
Dark meat can't be beat.
Wait, hashtag dark meat can't be beat.
Yeah.
I mean, like dark meat.
If you're dark meat, um, and if you're, uh, and if you're like white meat, hashtag
Mike Mitchell as a white supremacist.
Oh my God.
Sorry.
White meat supremacist.
Ah, white meat supremacist.
I'm glad you saved me there because I had, I had white power in my head and I was like,
I can't say white power.
That's not going to lead to anything.
You just did twice.
I wonder how often that's in your head, by the way.
It's not, no, it's not often.
See, I can't even do anything.
I can't turn it on you guys.
You know what?
I'm not, I'm not a jolly bee tonight.
I'm an angry bee.
I'm going to fucking sting your ass too.
I don't like this, uh, I don't like what you're saying about my city.
I don't like what you're saying about me.
And I think your fucking intros are too long.
Oh man.
You're lucky your name's not J-rock because he would get a rock.
Yeah, I will say this about the jolly bee himself.
He is a cute bee mascot.
He is very, he is a cute little bee guy.
He's red and white and he's going to want to crush your jolly.
My computer's going to be filled with jolly, fucking jolly boi, jolly bee fetish porn.
I'm not going to get, I'm not going to search for jolly bee hentai on deviant art.
I'm sure it exists.
There's definitely going to be a picture of Sonic sucking the jolly bee's dick under
the fingers.
No, no.
And if that was going to have a character from the Sonic Universe suck jolly bee's dick,
I would probably choose Charmy B because that's at least species appropriate.
Wow, that's, you'll go as far to watch them do it, but as long as it's still not interspecial.
Wow.
That's like Mike's take on black and white porn.
Oh my god.
Oh dear god.
I'm getting beat up this episode.
You're doing great.
You're doing great.
You're holding your own.
I haven't seen you in so long.
I gotta get it out.
It happens.
It has to happen.
So the fried chicken comes with some brown gravy, which as far as we could tell is just
for dipping the chicken in.
Let's talk about all these components.
We had the fried chicken.
What else would it be?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but I mean like a lot of times it comes with the gravy and it's with mashed potatoes
or something that's reported on.
It seemed like you were confused by, I just assumed it was chicken right off the bat.
You were looking for an excuse to spoon that chicken in your mouth.
You did attack it with the spoon pretty fast.
Wait, wasn't there, don't they have mashed potatoes?
They do have mashed potatoes, but didn't come with our particular chicken meal.
If you get the bucket treat A, I think you get mashed potatoes.
The bucket treat B has spaghetti instead.
And you were right about the sweetness, Mitch, especially referring to that spaghetti.
That spaghetti is very sweet.
In fact, it doesn't, they don't even advertise it as such though because the ad that was
on the window where we're eating was, it was the tastiest, cheesiest, spaghettiest.
Spaghettiest.
Yeah.
Which makes me believe that it's not real spaghetti.
No.
If they have to give it a qualifier of a, it's the most spaghettish spaghetti.
That's very true.
Yeah.
Why do you have to say that this is a very spaghetti type of spaghetti?
It's like, I kind of assume that with all spaghetti.
And it was, it wasn't my favorite, there were pieces of hot dog and then you said there
were some pork in there too, right, John?
Maybe some kind of chersu pork in there, yeah.
Yeah.
And some sweet marinara sauce and I don't even know what that cheese was that was on top
of it.
Cheese-like substance.
Yeah.
Some cheese-like, it was weird, right?
It was a kind of parmesan but it more had the texture of like a grated jack.
Yeah.
It was kind of gummy.
It was a weird cheese.
Yeah.
I didn't like it.
It was also on the hot dog.
Yeah, it was also on the hot dog.
It was also on the hot dog.
A lot of those, a lot of the components made it from one dish to another dish and I don't
know if I liked a lot of that stuff, like I could have done without the cheese on the
spaghetti.
Yeah.
I could have done with the spaghetti altogether but it seemed like you liked it, Nick.
You were kind of, you were into it a little bit.
I didn't mind the spaghetti.
It was a little sweet for me.
The noodles were certainly not al dente but they were, it was a fine interpretation of
spaghetti and like I did actually like the hot dogs or the chersu.
Like that was like a, that was interesting.
And also I like in general the idea of having spaghetti and fried chicken together.
Like that's like an unconventional combination but you know what?
That's all right.
If you want to have a starch heavy meal, that's kind of fun.
Yeah.
For sure.
I don't know if that's like a, if that's like a Filipino custom to, to mix it, to mix
the two.
It seemed like that was one of the common meal, go-to meals on the board, right?
Was that, was chicken and spaghetti?
Yeah.
That was one of the, one of the, the top three combos it seemed.
Yeah.
I agree with you but it just gave, it was that weird thing of, it felt like we were at a
buffet.
I mean we did this to ourselves in a lot of ways.
It felt like we were at a buffet when we ordered all our food and it wasn't, I mean
this is even before we got the second round of food.
It still felt kind of like a weird buffet style, style dinner.
Real quick when you said we got the second round, you were the one that got back in line.
I remember like, Negg was like, don't, don't, no, Mike, no, please don't.
I should have never, I should have fucking put fucking poison in all your fucking food.
Why are you so aggressive?
Like a real Bostonian.
Just sit here as both of you die and I laugh and the last sound of a Doughboy's podcast
is gunshots as they're taking me down.
So we're dying of poisoning.
Dustin calls 911.
And then the cops show up.
The cops show up.
Gotcha.
And I say, let them die and then they start shooting at me.
But I would imagine that Dustin first of all would call 911 because we seem to be having
some sort of toxic incident and so he would probably call the paramedics.
So you're saying you'd probably attack the paramedics and that would lead to the police
being called?
Oh my god, you had to break this down.
The paramedics brought guns.
Shut the fuck up.
Wow, you're really going to fix some scripts there, Mike.
Like why did that?
I don't fucking know.
Tune into Hidden America and you can see that's how a lot of our sketches end.
Yeah, there was a couple of sketches in there that I almost wanted to like pop up in a bubble,
like put it in a post of me going, sometimes it's hard to end a sketch.
Sometimes you don't have an out.
Was there anything in that show that I tried to give you the Spoon Man guarantee on, even
though I didn't call myself Spoon Man?
Yeah, you did all the time.
But was there anything that I was like, this is going to work and then it just completely
didn't work?
I'm sure there had to have been a couple of things.
I don't know.
Is there any that you could like for sure say you thought was going to like go great?
I mean, the lead sketch, you were shaky on it from the get go, but I think it turned out okay.
It turned out okay, yeah.
I can't write a funny, this is for any aspiring comedy people out there.
I dare you to try to write a funny weed sketch or it's so hard to do.
It's tricky because it's just such, it's well-worn territory at this point.
Yeah, that was our, we had a lot of issues.
But we were doing an episode in Denver and in Colorado.
We had to acknowledge it.
Had to acknowledge it and it was, Mike took it upon himself like the good New Englander
he is.
He's like, I'll do it.
I'll be the guy.
I regret that so much.
It was the third show you had to try and figure out a weed sketch, right?
Yeah.
Oh, because yes, because Bob Odenkirk who, he ran the birthday boys room, he was forever.
He's like, we got to do a weed sketch.
He like said that forever.
And we're like, all right.
And then he wrote off this weed sketch.
He's like, how's this weed sketch?
Why does Bob try to sound like a bad Bill Cosby?
We got to do the weed sketch.
We got to make bed.
We, we try to crack this weed sketch for two years in the birthday boys room.
And it was about pot, like a pot tours.
Like you could go on a tour or like in Colorado, you could go on a pot tour and people don't,
are weird about it because pot is just now legal or whatever.
Yeah.
And Sonsolers.
So we try to crack that for two years.
And then I visited, you know what?
I'm just going to tell the story anyways.
I went to with Bob and David and Bob pulled out pot tours and everyone in the room was
like, oh, not pot tours again.
And we're like, oh man, that's still alive.
And last I heard it was still alive.
And Bob is a genius and he'll figure it out at some point.
Yeah.
But then when we got into the Hidden America writers room, it was like, we're going to
do a weed sketch.
And I was like, man, I just saw this genius trying to do it for like three years.
And I just don't.
But you know what?
I was happy with how it turned out.
It's hard to do though.
It is tough.
But we had to go out of completely different angle where it's hardly about weed.
You know, it's about the perception of weed culture.
Yeah.
And how it's become a straight man's game in Colorado.
It's one of those things in comedy where I feel like it's the thing that you can't.
Like Nick said, well-worn territory.
You know, I'm going to say this.
There was one, there was one bit you were just so hell bent on getting.
It was a real tiny dumb joke for our Austin episode.
And we, I was like, I don't want to do it where we're fine without it.
And Mike was like anytime like a line or a word or a syllable or anything wasn't used
that was in the script, Mike would start to like lose it.
There was a time where like I just dropped like the second part of a sentence and I was
like, ah, just, it sounds better when I say it like this.
And like Mike would just, you know, take off his hat and like rub his head and go.
In post, in post you're going to want, you're going to want this.
No, I know, I know, I know, but I kind of in my head, I get it.
And I think it just sounds like he starts to laugh, you know, holding the script in
his hand like it's a bio.
I just think if you just sit on the line right there, it would just be so much better.
This is actually a very accurate depiction of me.
It's white knuckling a script that's covered in sweat.
Production is, there's times where I feel like I shouldn't be on a set.
Because you did so many, like you added so many jokes.
I love doing it.
As you know, it can be a very nerve-wracking place to be.
And a man who stutters when his dentist asks him, last time he's lost, I can't be on set
and be stuttering around trying to make a point about, I'm a coward man.
And like Weiger, who I make fun of for being a robot, I too am a bit on the spectrum.
And I think that's where we are.
Do you not floss, Mitch?
I do floss. Jesus Christ.
You should really floss.
I don't floss like five times a day.
You don't have to floss like once a day.
I flossed my fucking teeth.
It was just an example, goddammit.
Okay, well you went to it right away.
It felt like it came from a real place.
To be honest though, the robot thing was really true.
Like we've only really ever talked in passing.
Yeah.
We probably talked more on Twitter than we ever have in real life.
And right now is the most eye contact you've had with me all day.
When you first showed up to the mall, it was like, you just kept on like looking at everything else in the mall.
And I was like, I guess Nick doesn't really like me in person.
No, his eyes are bleeding right now.
Or oil, who knows what that is.
But the one thing that Mike for sure to me would be a sensation would be like we would do these things
where like going to a commercial, like tease a sketch that we would never get to.
And we called him when we come back.
So it was always like, when we come back, we check out the Austin Austin Powers Festival.
That's right.
And it's a guy dressed up like Austin Powers in front of the Austin Capitol going, you just do it how you.
It's Austin Baby in Austin Baby Air.
That's what I wanted to pitch.
I was like, well, we'll put it down till we think of something better.
And as production goes, you just never, we never got around to it.
And Mike's like, we've got to have it.
And you were like, you said, you said we always needed it when we come back.
We need two in every episode.
You haven't thought of another one.
I was like, yes, my rule is I know I don't, we don't need it.
It was your rule.
And somehow I made it my rule and I made it stick in there.
And I was, I was maybe that, that might have been the happiest I was the entire day.
I was very, I get attached to dumb jokes, but I, but I really, that made my day.
Yeah.
And then, but the thing is we put it in the episode and we like how we did it.
Like when we come back, we go to the Austin Austin.
And they're like, Austin Baby, yeah, in Austin Baby.
And it just like for everybody landed so flat.
And like people would just be like, one night showed one friend.
He was like, oh, and immediately apologized.
And so I realized we were like, we were sticking the land in too much.
We are too proud of that, like that bit.
And so now it like, uh, it exists, it real in passing.
When you throw, when you have something like that and you throw it away,
it always ends up being a lot better.
Now it gets a laugh where it's like, we talk about, it's like, you know,
I blame the actor, even though I forget who it was and he probably did a good job.
He was some local guy.
But like now it's a throwaway thing where it's like, you know, we,
Austin is home to a bunch of festivals for white people.
Fantastic Fest, South by Southwest and the Austin Austin Powers Festival.
And then just a guy going, yeah, baby.
And then it just cuts away.
So now it works.
So, but you were so confident.
My artwork has been destroyed.
I'll play it on a loop in my house.
That and Seattle's Mackerel Moors, but that gets a good laugh.
Yeah.
Mackerel Moors is not bad.
That's fun.
Hmm.
I shouldn't be a comedy writer.
Anyway, moving on.
You say pretty good at crafting obvious puns.
That's like if you ever write some movie, just an entire audience,
not a laughter, people going, that's fun.
Let's, let's talk a little bit more about the Jollibee menu items that we had.
So the hollow hollow is something I was not familiar with.
Jonah, this was a thing that I leapt out at you.
I don't know if this is a, was a thing you've had before or.
I've just always noticed it and it's a, it's like a very popular treat.
And I believe, you know, the thing you said in the beginning about the guy,
it was originally an ice cream stand.
Yes.
This is probably what it was.
And, and, you know, it's something that's very popular.
I think even Eugene mentioned it.
Gotcha.
On his L and L Hawaiian barbecue episode where he reviewed a Hawaiian restaurant.
Even though he's from New York.
I love this feud between the captain of Spoonation and the leader of the burger brigade.
Jonah, that's what you are now.
You're, you're, you're the, you're the captain of Nick's shitty club.
They don't want to be a part of it.
The burger brigade?
That's Wiger's little why he's the burger boy.
He has the burger brigade.
I never formally declared that there was a burger brigade,
but it just sort of is organically happened.
Some losers online declare there.
Not anymore.
Not anymore.
Now I'm going to whip this fucking brigade into shape.
All right.
Okay.
The time you see it, there's going to be, there's a war brewing.
Spoonation is going down.
You think the burger brigade is just a brigade by itself?
I'm sorry.
We have the Jonah radio 80X.
You know that this ends with me and Nick getting shot by lunatics.
Yes.
Yeah.
By one lunatic.
All right.
So this is hollow hollow.
Six tablespoons hollow hollow mixture.
Okay.
To fight it into two tablespoons each.
Oh, cool.
Two tablespoons macapuno, which is preserved shredded coconut.
Two tablespoons of ca-ong, which is palm nuts.
Two tablespoons of coconut gel.
Fresh grated cantaloupe.
Crushed or shaved ice.
Evaporated milk.
Vanilla ice cream.
Or you can also use mango.
Hmm.
It was a really bizarre looking treat.
Yes.
It's like, it's got a layer of red.
I'm kind of looking at this photograph.
I've got it a bit now for reference.
But it's got like a layer of red at the bottom.
Look at that flan on top too.
Yeah.
This layer of white ice.
And then at the top, yeah.
It's got like a, yeah.
It's got like a piece of flan, a purple scoop of ice cream and a mango colored scoop of
ice cream.
Very bizarre combination of flavors.
Yeah.
But it's also like shaved ice too.
Yeah.
You know, with the condensed milk over it, which is always very tasty.
You would scoop one area of it and be like, hmm, this is pretty good.
Then you'd scoop another area and you'd be like, ugh, this is very strange.
I don't know.
Like the, kind of the gelatin part that we were talking about was kind of the weird stuff
in that whole concoction.
Not that I hated it, but there were some scoops of that that I was just like, ugh, I didn't
know.
I don't know what I just had there and I don't.
You don't know what you're getting with it.
Yeah.
But you know, we all, since we're on the drink-y kind of things, I got the ube kind of shake,
which is almost kind of a smoothie ube taro thing with the boba, boba balls.
Yes.
It was so, you want to tell them?
It was great.
It was great.
It was really great.
It might have been my favorite thing that we had tonight.
Yeah, that was really delicious.
If there was like a stand that sold just those, I would get, I would, I would, I would love
that.
That's a five forked item.
It was delicious.
Yeah.
That was very tasty.
The hollow hollow it felt like was like, you know, it was like a reference I didn't get.
It was like a bit of nostalgia for, I'm sure, for if you had that as a, as a flavor of your
childhood, you probably would like it.
But if it's, if it's foreign to you, it just is, it's kind of bizarre.
The ube was very, very good.
And the pineapple floats you and I got Mitch.
I thought those were pretty decent too.
I thought those were good.
They were good.
There was a lot of, there were big fucking chunks of pineapple in them.
Yeah.
They gave, they gave us the, the, the wide straws.
And we, and, and, and, and I, I enjoyed it.
It was, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't as good as Jonah's drink, but it was, they were,
they were tasty.
Like into a dole whip.
You might get it at Disneyland.
Yes.
Yes.
Pretty good.
Though I will say the dole whip is better.
Dole whip's way better.
I found one.
We, oh, we mentioned the spam sandwich earlier, which I thought was pretty good.
Like you guys are saying, the mayo was doing a lot of heavy, heavy things.
Spam sandwiches maybe is one of, was one of my stars of the meal.
It's a great individual fight.
And we also got the mango and peach pies.
Too sweet for me.
My main complaint with this place is that, was that it was, a lot of stuff was, was very
sweet.
And I know that that's the style.
Yeah.
No dynamics to the taste.
Yes.
Yeah.
Every new dish would be just as sweet, if not more sweet than the last one, which, which
is just when you're trying a lot of different things, it was just a lot to kind of take.
Yeah.
It was a little overwhelming.
The peach mango pie, I mean, you know, like a McDonald's apple pie, just piping hot inside.
Take a little nibble of that and let it air out.
Don't just bite into it whole hog or you're going to burn your tongue.
But the, yeah, I think just a little overly sweet, the ones you get to the pie part.
The crust was not bad.
The crust was great.
And then the, the second round, we got a jolly hot dog.
Second round.
Oh, the mic round.
Yeah.
The mic round.
This is BS.
We got the, a jolly hot dog, a corned beef sandwich, which was similar in size and, and,
and scoped to be.
Also very tasty.
Also very tasty.
And the big yum burger, which was like a third pound burger, I think.
And some fries, some jolly, crispy fries.
When, when, when Joe, when you mentioned that roast beef sandwich or, I mean, I'm sorry,
what was it?
Corned beef.
And it was like, I don't know if I want to get that thing.
And then that was my, that, that was the other starred item from the menu because that was,
that was really, really tasty.
But do you think it was because it was, they were using the Hawaiian sweet rolls, the Portuguese
sweet roll, you know, things.
Do you think that's what was doing most of the tasting?
I think, I mean, the meat for me was kind of incidental.
It was kind of like you, it was basically, I think honestly Eugene may have made this
point himself where just a big part of it is that role in the mayonnaise.
And then, you know, you get a little bit of protein partly for texture, but you're, you're
not tasting a lot of it.
And for me, like the spam and the corned beef ones were kind of on the same level, I think
because of most of the flavor you were getting was from those other components.
Yeah.
And I, you know what, but I've never had corned beef with mayo before on a Hawaiian roll.
And I, and I still did like it.
I could still taste it.
It's not like it was the, the, the, it was the, there was an absence of corned beef.
You could still taste it and you could differentiate between that and the spam.
It was just, you know, the majority of it was mayo and a sweet Hawaiian roll.
It was kind of that corned beef, you'd get in a corned beef hash more than like a corn,
when you get in a corned beef sandwich, it was kind of that shredded canned corned beef.
And both of them were, you know, they were on sweet Hawaiian rolls, but they were the
least sweet, kind of the least overwhelming, besides the french fries, dishes of the entire
night, I thought.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The patty for the burger was a flame broiled, which gave it kind of a Burger King feel to
it.
But it was kind of soaking wet for some reason.
The juices didn't see-
Yeah.
The burger was, that, that was one of the things, if I went, if I went to Jollibee, got a burger
from there, didn't know it was Filipino chain and ate it in my car, but like, there's something
weird about it.
Like there's a sweet, weird taste to this burger.
I don't get what's going on in here.
Why would it be in your car?
Because of a sad man who eats his car.
There's a sad detail thrown in there.
And I was just like, you know, say I was to go get the burger, not knowing it's a Filipino
chain, get in my car, think about my ex-wife, and turn on some Seeger and listen to the,
hold on, wait, what is this, the burger, the burger, I'm talking about the burger.
Anyways, I'm in the car with my two kittens, and we're at Jollibees.
You got that hose propped right into that window for my gas tank.
Um, it, there, in the, you saying it tastes like Burger King is, is kind of spot on to
me because there were, there were hints of Burger King throughout this meal.
The fries were like, when you said when the Burger King changed their fries over, had the
fries had that kind of early Burger King fry taste right when they changed over to the
new fry recipe.
Yeah.
Which they stole from Jack in the Box.
That's, that's true.
Which I think, I don't like that new fry recipe, by the way, I liked old school Burger King
fries.
Shut the fuck up.
And, uh, the, the burger was kind of reminding me of WAP, like a sweet, weird whopper.
That's how I describe you.
You know what, you want me back over.
Come here, you sweet, weird whopper.
Would I be so lucky if I had a wife that said that to me one day?
Well, think about it next time you're eating one of your car.
It's such a perfect distillation of your essence.
A sweet, weird whopper.
I love it.
It's perfect.
I'd say with the second round of food, when we got that, I was like, this stuff's going
to be a little bit more normal.
This is kind of going to be, we're going to do burgers and dogs and, and this is going
to kind of just be like a little bit more like American fast food as opposed to what
we ate before.
Not the case.
Quite the opposite.
The opposite.
Maybe the weird, it was maybe the weirder of the bunch besides, like we said, that corn
beef sandwich and the fries.
Well, I think they were larger deviations from the norm.
It was like, you know, the hot dog had a sweet sauce.
It had the same sorts of, the same sort of cheese that was on the spaghetti.
Yeah.
I had like one bite of the hot dog and that was the one thing, the one item I didn't
really want to return to because it was just like, it had, it was sweetness, but it wasn't
like a barbecue sweetness.
It was just like kind of a.
I saw you put that in your pocket.
Yeah.
You did kind of throw it down and disgust you.
You really just shut it down.
You're like, no.
Yeah.
It wasn't super.
I mean, it was almost like a jam like sweetness, which wasn't quite appropriate for a hot dog.
Too much bread.
Yeah.
And a lot of bread.
The cheese, I like cheese on a hot dog, but this cheese just didn't, didn't quite fit.
The burger was fine.
The fries, I think were, aside from the corned beef sandwich, I think were the standout of
that second round.
Like you mentioned there at the restaurant, Jonah, you mentioned that they were like jack-in-the-box
fries.
And yeah, I think that they are kind of a dead ringer for jack-in-the-box fries.
Like if I had those as a blind taste test with the jack-in-the-box ones, I'd think they
were the same.
Some about that little extra notches of crisp on the outside.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were good.
They were a good palate cleanser for some weird stuff that we had.
There was definitely some stuff I ate and wanted to get the taste out of my mouth immediately,
which is okay.
It was just something that I, it wasn't like a rotten taste.
It was just a very different taste that I wasn't used to.
It was odd the fact that the food could be so complex and bland at the same time.
Yes.
Yeah, that is a great way to put it.
Because it really was that thing of like, oh, it's kind of like, it is kind of shitty,
fast food.
But then at the same time, like, this is really different.
I was eating stuff that I was like, I have not had anything like this ever.
It's just a different palate completely, which is weird because we're so used to, like, you
know, especially living in a city like Los Angeles, we have all kinds of different food
from all kinds of different places in the world.
You know, and not just like, you know, this continent and the continent below us and a
lot of, you know, Asian continents, but even Africa.
Like, we can go get good Ethiopian food in this, in this city.
And there's, there's rarely a time where I'm like, ah, this is, what is this?
Where is this coming from?
Well, how much of it is because it's just disorienting to see food that we recognize
and then have it taste different than we expect?
You know, it's like, I feel like it's kind of, if we had these same sort of flavors,
it was instead of spaghetti with meat sauce, it was a different sort of noodle dish,
and it was called something else, and we had, I feel like we'd perceive it in a different way
because it's not really subverting our expectations.
But that also didn't put me off of it either.
No, I don't think so, but it is, it does like color your experience a little bit.
For sure, yeah.
An interesting experience.
I think at this point, we should give our final thoughts on this chain and give it our rating
on a scale of one to five forks.
Before we do that though, Jonah, I am curious, what would your rating be for your beloved
L&L Hawaiian barbecue?
Five forks.
Five forks, wow.
All right.
What would it be for Ono, even though we haven't reviewed that one yet?
Three forks.
Three forks.
Interesting.
That's not that bad.
Here's the tricky thing about L&L, besides the fact that I grew up with it.
Yeah.
So the nostalgia may be playing a key factor in it, but the factor is that L&L's more
so than Ono are franchise, like so someone can make an L&L, like with, they can have
all the things that are normally on L&L, but then they can expand the menu if they want.
Gotcha.
And that usually means, you could always tell them when it's someone from Hawaii running
that L&L or someone that just bought the franchise and started a location.
And that's what I love about that Eagle Rock location or the Highland Park location is
that it's like they added all these other things that you would get in Hawaii.
Yeah.
So trying to be able to do that makes L&L a bit more of an actual place to go get food
as opposed to, you know, a chain, which I know you really like the idea of the same
everywhere.
Yeah.
But I don't, I really like the idea of delineations from a theme.
That's fair.
I think, I like that too, if it doesn't mean that they're shittier.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like if there's, I like regional things, I like if a chain has its own thing down in
the Southwest as opposed to the Northeast or whatever, but the quality level for me
is more what's important from place to place.
And it's funny.
I will say this about Jolly Bee.
It was a place that looked kind of strange and weird and going into it, I wasn't grossed
out by the food at all in the way of like a, what should we call it, the place that I
hate?
What's the place that we went to?
The diner place that's terrible that I've...
Keros?
Keros.
Gross.
The food was prepared well, it was clean in the restaurant, it was like a, it wasn't
that clean.
Oh really?
Yeah.
The booth we sat on had a bunch of trash at her feet.
You may not have noticed it.
But Jolly Bee, Jolly Bee's just before to me seemed so weird and a lot of them seemed
run down and strange that, that this one to me at least was clean in the food scene.
Yeah, it was an interior ball.
It also was just, it was, you know, in a mall.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think Donald's would look just as crappy if it wasn't the same spot.
Very true.
Yeah.
Well, anyway, should we get into our final thoughts on it?
Yeah, let's give our thoughts at our fourth grade and we'll start with you, Jonah.
You know, not really knowing exactly what it was going to be, but having an idea, kind
of a preconceived notion of what I would find there.
I was a little disappointed that it didn't reflect more of the Filipino food that I knew
growing up, but it, it did surprise me.
I can't see myself ever going back to it.
There was nothing that made me go like, Oh, well, I'll come, I'll come back for this
thing.
Sure.
There's nothing that I like there.
Did I, you know, think was better than anywhere else I can get a similar thing.
So yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to say that it's, it's an interesting thing.
It's fun to order because of the names of everything, but it's nothing I really could
outwardly recommend to anybody if, unless you, you know, nostalgia plays a factor into
going there.
If you, you know, spend some time in the Philippines.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So I'm going to go with a two and a half forks, two and a half forks, two and a half forks.
All right.
Good, Mitch.
Um, yes, this, I, I appreciated Jolly Bee because it was a food experience that I haven't
had in this city.
And, and like Jonah said, LA is a, it's a, it's a melting pot and you can try so many
different styles of cuisine and, and, and, you know, you, there's, there's so much Asian
food and, uh, Italian food, the best of everything as the, as the, the best Mexican, the best
Italian you can get taste of, of everything in this city.
And, uh, I had never had Filipino food ever in my life.
Uh, I'm not sure if I'm a fan of this style 100%.
I, I, I don't, and, and, and you know what, Jolly Bee probably isn't the best
example of Filipino food, of course, but, um, but it's, it's, it's, it's not, it's not
100% of my wheelhouse.
It's a little too sweet for me and I would love to hear from some people about how authentic
the food is because, because I, because I wonder if this is like, if this is, if this
is close to a, a meal you could get in the Philippines.
If it is, if the food, the spaghetti is usually sweet like that and that maybe there's, maybe
there's better versions of this that I would like much better.
You know what I mean?
Um, uh, but, you know, as an open-minded man, as a nice man, as a non-racist man,
um, I appreciate other cultures.
Um, and, and, and it was, it was, it was worth trying.
It might, it might, do I want to go back there?
I don't know if I will.
Honestly, I, I don't know if I'll go back.
Um, if, if people were going, yeah, I would check it out.
And there's definitely a couple of things on there that I really like.
So this puts me in a weird spot on this show because it, it, it puts me in that
weird spot of like, this is just my, my taste.
I, I, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's something that like, I don't, I don't
like the style of food as much.
And so how, how do you rank that?
Is this restaurant doing what it's trying to do?
Kind of, right?
Like it feels like it is, it's very popular.
There were a lot of people in there tonight and it seems like it makes a lot
of money every year.
So it's got to be close.
I'm going to go two forks and three, what does it, what does it, two in 0.75
times, 2.75 forks.
So wait, 0.75, you're seeking the three times.
Yeah.
Three times three out of four.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Not point, not.
Fine.
Three, seven, five of one time, I forgot the time system.
All right.
Two forks in three times.
Okay.
Great.
If you, if you spend more time listening to the rating process of the podcast,
listening to hate speech and all of my fucking God, did I just establish that I'm
an open-minded, nice, non-racist man?
The fact that you have to keep on saying it is just suspect.
Oh, God damn it.
Um, I enjoyed my experience.
You know what?
I hate Hawaiians, Jonah.
Whoa, boy.
Wow.
Wow.
Really kicking a race when it's, there's barely any left.
That's a real cool man.
It sounds exactly like something you would do.
I hate the rays.
Good thing.
My last name is Roger Riggs.
Damn it.
Uh, I enjoyed my experience at Jollibee.
You know, I'm certainly hyper aware of the fact that we're white people assessing a
Filipino chain and, uh, you know, I, I don't want to seem like I'm certainly bringing
my own prejudices to this evaluation.
That said, there are a lot of tasty bites here.
I really enjoyed those fries.
Fucking a, no, there were a lot of tasty bites.
I really enjoyed those fries.
There really were a lot of tasty bites.
I will double down on it.
There were some tasty bites in this meal.
That would be a triple down.
I just did it three times.
Fine.
I'll triple, I'll quadruple down, all down as many times as you guys dare me to.
Hey, as, as a member of the burger brigade, I back up your tasty bite, uh, catch
phrase.
Thank you, Jonah.
Um, so a series of tasty bites.
Tasty bites?
Uh, Pete, you'll down as many times as you need to down.
Yes, I will down as many times as I need to.
Oh my God.
Tasty bites.
We had a series of tasty bites.
Um, the various sandwiches were good.
The, the spam and the, uh, the corned beef sandwiches were good.
Um, the fries were a standout.
The sweet treats were, you know, uh, somewhere a little overly sweet, but
there was a lot of fun to be had there.
Fun, tasty bites.
And, and some, some real tasty bites with that fried chicken.
Uh, I really like, I really enjoyed the Christmas of the chicken.
The gravy was a maybe a little bit unnecessary, but there was a nice
crisp exterior to that chicken skin, crisp exterior skin was a, was a standout.
That was really nice.
And the meat was, was reasonably, uh, moist underneath it was good fried chicken.
The fried chicken, I feel like you could give it to somebody and they would not
necessarily think like, Oh, this is from a, uh, this is from a chain that,
that originates from outside America.
That's one that has a lot in common with, uh, the American, uh, uh, expectations
for flavor.
I think if you go to Jollibee and you go in with an open mind, you're
going to have a nice time and for me, this was very much a three fork
experience.
Wow.
I would give it another go and I would experiment with some of these other
menu items, know that there are, there's some that are going to just be going
to be misfires, but that's just your brain, your own, uh, your, your own taste
expectations to the table.
And you left with a new crush in the anthrop, anthropomorphic bee.
I like the anthropomorphic bee.
And you know what?
He would go on my Mount Buzzmore of top bees.
What the fuck?
You're Mount Buzzmore.
I would put Jollibee bee on Mount Buzzmore.
I would put the honey net Cheerios bee up there.
I would put, um, a bee suit Mario from Super Mario Galaxy.
This is already stretching it so much.
And then
Beesuit Mario, Beesuit Mario from a Super Mario galaxy.
And then, uh, who am I missing?
Um, I don't know.
Some other bee.
John Belushi dressed up as a bee.
John Belushi dressed, you know, yeah, John Belushi dressed up as a bee.
And then, uh, in the fifth spot, we'd had a fifth head to Mount Buzzmore for, uh,
Beesuit Man from the Simpsons.
Oh, that's cool.
I never thought I'd hear your Mount Buzzmore.
All right.
Uh, that was Jollibee.
Hey, and we, we, we, uh, we, uh, we did a ratings, a ratings ladder there.
We, uh, we, uh, we climbed the ladder.
We climbed the ladder.
And you know what?
We're all in the same, uh, same ballpark.
So we're ballpark buds.
Oh, fuck the ballpark buds.
Oh God.
All right.
Uh, that was Jollibee.
It's time for a regular segment.
I'm going to go, uh, Mitch is going to go prep this one real quick.
Uh, and while we're doing that, uh, Jonah, so I'm curious, uh, to, to hear more
about Hidden America.
So, uh, by the time this is out, it will be live on CISO.
If you're a CISO subscriber, you can, you can check out all episodes.
Um, but, uh, for someone who's just, uh, just knows that you're involved, knows
that Mitch is involved, um, knows the title of the show.
Uh, give us a little bit more background on, on what we can expect with each episode.
Uh, well, it's a, uh, it's in the simplest form.
It's a, it's a Anthony Bourdain parts unknown parody.
Right.
Uh, it's, uh, it's a, it's a travel show where the, uh, the places are real, but
the people are fake.
So we go, we actually travel around the country at all these cities.
We go to, you know, Boston, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Denver, Atlanta,
Austin, we do an LA episode at New Orleans.
Uh, but all these, uh, but while we're there, we shoot basically sketches
that would, uh, or, you know, or talk to characters that would be in this world.
Um, and, uh, what is this?
You'll see.
All right.
Um, and so, yeah.
So, and it's like a, it's a secret sketch show for all intents and purposes.
And we try to kind of have a through line that is me, uh, doing my best to, uh, you
know, uh, host a show.
And, and it's like, we kind of created the character that I'm playing as a, as like,
you know, the idea of a guy that sees Bourdain and doesn't really get why people
like it, but it looks cool.
So he's going to try and do it as well.
And the kind of, uh, narcissism and ego it takes to think that people want to see
you eat food.
I like your characterization of as a secret sketch show.
Cause I, you know, months ago, I, I, I saw the, the pilot that you guys shot.
Um, you showed it to me and it's, it's very, very funny.
And it's, it's kind of like, um, and, and, you know, I've seen some of the, uh, uh,
the bits from the finished episodes at this point and it all came out very
funny and it really like captures kind of that absurd, that Anthony Bourdain tone.
Um, but it also just kind of has the, the absurdness of all these like fun
sketch bits and all these fun character pieces that you get, uh, within that
framing.
And yeah, I think it's a lot of fun.
I think if you like, uh, if, you know, if you're listening to this show, I think
you should definitely check it out.
And that CISO subscription is what, $3.99 a month.
Right now there's a special or a $3.99 for three months and they have so
much good stuff and then you know, Kulap show, $1,000,000 properties is on there.
Uh, but then there's also, uh, all the kids in the hall, all the Monty Python,
all Alan Partridge, like everything Alan Partridge has done is on there.
You got Mighty Bush, uh, Garth Merring is dark place, a man to man with Dean
Lerner.
Um, and then you got this new show from this guy, Will Sharp out of England.
It's a channel four show that they're, that they have, that they help make called
flowers and it's, uh, it's one of the most beautiful, sad, funny shows I've seen
in a long time and I'm obsessed with it.
Six episodes that's on there right now.
It's incredible.
So I'm really happy to be on that, uh, on CISO and to have this show be on it.
It was really cool to be able to make it with like Mike, you know, uh, and we also
like, uh, uh, Matt Dwyer and like Mark Rivers from Mr.
Show and, you know, uh, Kevin Dorf from Conan Frank Gillespie, who left the show
to go work on SNL, uh, you know, Caitlin, uh, Gil, who's a very funny standup.
Uh, and then just the people we got on it is insane.
You know, so it's, uh, like Jill Talley, Johnson and Roberts.
I mean, we can just get, you know, the list is, it's crazy who we got to do in it.
It was a lot of fun.
I drove Jonah Mad.
I drove you crazy too.
We really like Mike and I, like we're really, we're a yang and a yang.
Yeah.
And really like we, we were not there for each other at the same time every single
time, but we were also like both supportive of each other.
Like we'd be like, this is crazy.
This sucks.
What are we doing?
And then at the same time we go, we're doing pretty good.
I know, yeah, we're doing pretty good, um, but it was awesome.
And then like the best part was like, we ended in Austin and then Mike and I, and
my wife, Deanna flew out and Mike and I and Deanna like had like, like a, uh, two
days in Austin, just to kind of hang out and be impressed.
And we got tickets to go see Force Awakens at the Alamo Draft House.
That's right.
That's where it all started.
I actually, I actually saw, it's funny.
I saw the Force Awakens the night before opening night with John and
this, and then I went and saw it with you again the next day.
That's right.
I had, I had secretly bought us, you and I tickets and then D flew out, uh, like
kind of later on.
Yeah.
And I kind of had to admit to you, I was like, I bought tickets for us, just the
two of us.
And then you got tickets, you got three tickets the next day.
So I saw Force Awakens twice within 24 hours.
Yeah.
And, uh, and we all know what happened from there.
That's my ship.
In car plot, um, he was quoting plot.
And speaking of the Force Awakens, we got, Nick hit, hit, hit us with it.
All right.
Let's set this up.
Uh, from Feral Audio Studios in Burbank, this is cereal.
A segment told one bowl at a time.
All right, Mitch, uh, what cereals did you get for us to evaluate?
That's where you kind of like broke down the whole thing of the cereal.
Oh, I could keep it going.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it seems like a setup for something more.
Yeah, go.
That's all it is.
All right.
So what, what, what, what are the cereals we have here, Mitch?
Today, now an incoming call from across the room.
Today we have Kellogg's, limited edition, Star Wars, cereal, the Force Awakens.
Um, I remember I was, I was,
I was with Mike when we saw Star Wars and I mean, I don't know if he saw it
beforehand, but then he later revealed that, yeah, I mean, he saw it.
So I don't know.
I mean, who's to say whether he saw it like for real for the first time or
whatever, if this is a question of whether I would kill Force Awakens.
I definitely am guilty.
I would hate that way.
Wow.
It's grown.
The anger has grown since we last talked about it.
Well, I, I, I was trying to, when I saw the second time at the Vista and I liked
it even more, I knew, I knew, I knew I would lose you.
Cause well, the thing is, is that Weigar did not like it.
I didn't like it the first time I saw it.
I would, I would have to say I saw it again as I mentioned before in the
podcast with friends of the podcast and past guests, uh, David Phillips and
Joe Saunders, we went in the three of us and we saw it again and we had a great
time and then I saw, uh, what a crew.
What a crew.
How many words were spoken between the three of you?
Hello, Nick.
Hello, David.
Hello, Joe.
All right.
I'm pouring some of the cereal out.
I'm going to hand this over to you, Jonah.
It's, it's, uh, Jonah, would you, would you read the description of what the
cereal is?
There's, there's Kylo Ren is on the box and then there's, uh,
they put the, the villain on the box.
This is like what says about the kids today, where they want to be.
It's like, uh, you know, this is probably the, the avatar that he is for
trolling on the AV club comic board.
This is the limited edition box, Star Wars, fruity flavored cereal with
marshmallows and other natural flavors.
It looks like we've got some of these.
I'm trying to discern the shapes of these.
We can definitely tell there's like a tie fighter, uh,
corn nugget.
What shitty original characters from the force awakens have made it into our
bowl?
I can't tell what the other things are.
I guess what is this supposed to be?
Is this supposed to be like Kylo Ren ship maybe?
Kylo Ren ship.
So one ship.
One's clearly BB eight.
Oh, there is a BB eight.
You're right.
There's, um, that's a stormtrooper mask.
That's a lightsaber.
I don't know what the other two are.
Oh, I got a BBA here.
There was a box of BB eight on it.
Um, but I got, I wanted to, uh, I wanted Kylo Ren to be our guy because he's
the shittiest, uh, Star Wars villain of all time.
Of all time, even more so than say, um, Oh boy.
Dooku.
Yeah.
Dooku.
I like Dooku more than I like Kylo Ren.
Do you like Dooku more than Ren?
Mm hmm.
Oh, come on.
Of course, you know, a great actor, Christopher Lee.
Yeah.
But Kylo Ren's like cooler.
Yeah.
Kylo Ren's the coolest.
I don't know.
Count Dooku's kind of got a thin backstory.
It's kind of hard to tell what's going on with him.
Oh, you know, I forgot to tell you, uh, the, uh, who did the drop.
Uh, his name is Aloy.
Aloy.
It's not Eloy.
It's Aloy.
Oh.
He's a really awesome dude.
Oh, yeah.
Um, kind of a very, uh, lemony flavor with this, right?
Am I wrong about that?
I feel like I'm getting a lot of lemon from the, the corn portion.
It tastes a lot like fruity pebbles.
Yeah.
The marshmallows.
I wish it tasted like fruity pebbles.
Mm.
Marshmallows aren't adding much.
Um, fact I'm trying, what is the, what is the blue and red?
Col, like the coloration is very confusing to me.
I'm not getting a lot of Star Wars from this color, from these, this color scheme.
Yeah.
If you gave this to me and, and asked me to guess what kind of cereal this was, I
would be like, I don't know, fucking SpongeBob cereal.
Like I don't, I have no, like there's nothing here that, from the actual flavor
or the color, the presentation that says Star Wars to me.
Well, what do you want to taste fucking space does?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, like, okay, maybe flavor.
It's hard to, to pick it, to pick up with something specific, but.
I mean, that looks like the Wu Tang symbol.
Yeah.
Like maybe what if it turned the milk blue or something, you know, just something,
some kind of Star Wars-y detail.
All right.
That's pretty good, actually.
I called John and you had a good answer.
I, um, I don't eat cereal anymore and it's a, it's a bummer.
Yeah.
I love cereal so much.
It is really one of the perfect foods.
The cold, the crisp, you know, the, the, the way of eating it.
Um, I can't even walk down cereal aisles anymore just because if I have cereal in
the house, it's gone within a day or so.
Yeah.
I can't help.
I just go, I have a small one.
It's a real small little bag.
And then like, I fill up half of a bowl and I, whoops.
Yeah.
I say whoops.
And then I fill up the rest.
All right.
I think we got a good assessment of that.
Yeah.
So what's the other cereal you got us to compare and contrast?
The other one, it's from Kellogg's and other Disney film, Finding Dory by Pixar.
Um, we got, uh, it's got marshmallows as well.
It's Dory and Nemo friends and, but the, the actual cereal looks a little bit
different.
This looks, it might be a little bit more lucky charm style.
Yeah.
It looks like it.
We've got a, you know, a bunch of multicolored fish shaped marshmallows,
which, which tracks that makes a lot of sense.
Dory might be a bomb.
What you think?
No, I'd box office wise.
Yeah.
I could see it maybe being like a cars two-esque, you know, critical
disappointment, but I think it'll do, do bopho box office.
Oh my God.
Pour some of this one at this in here.
Bopho's one of my favorite old timey showbiz words.
Um, you know, these, the, the, the wood is my friend, David would, from high
school would, would characterize the non-martial portion of the cereal.
The wood here is just like these, these weird, uh, squares with holes in the center.
I'm not really sure what they're supposed to represent.
They don't seem like they're coral reef, perhaps.
I guess if you're giving them, if you're giving them a lot of credit, then maybe
it's a coral reef thing.
There's also this, these ones are weird because there's white, there are
white fish, they're a little white, yeah.
That's all right.
That's all right.
We'll clean that up.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Dustin.
Uh, don't worry about it.
We'll get, we'll get it.
I feel like, uh, you didn't smell any milk.
You don't smell any milk.
You just spilled this dry cereal.
That'll be easy to clean up.
This is how excited I am for having cereal right now.
Turned into a child.
All right.
Here we go.
There's one of my favorite cereal moments.
Me and, uh, me and, me and my brother Adam and our cousins Jessica and
Laena, uh, we're all having to sleep over the next, in the next morning,
we're all like getting our cereal and then, uh, our friend, our cousin,
Laena, she always, uh, like spilled things.
She was just had a pension for always dropping stuff.
And so she's like, I'm going to, I'm going to bring it to the TV and we're
like, don't, don't, you're going to drop.
She's like, I won't drop it.
It's like, she's, we're like, no, you do it all the time.
You're going to drop her.
She's like, no, I got it.
And so she takes her bowl and then we fill up our bowls and the three of us
leave the kitchen and then all we see as we look down as a spilled bowl of cereal.
And then we look down the hallway and we just see her like, uh, running down
the hallway going, I think about that moment all the fucking time.
Kids, kids crying when they spill something is very funny.
Um, so this one, this one has a little bit of an odier and kind of an, an
oat or wheat, right?
Yes.
Less, it's less corn.
What the hell is it?
That's corn.
More, more brand.
What the hell is it?
Yeah.
It's also not as crunchy.
It's a bit porous.
Yeah.
And it does have that lucky charms thing where I'm tasting these marshmallows
way more pop a lot more blue doesn't stand out on blue.
You need a little contrast that the sweet corn and the marshmallows, it
all kind of gets muddled, but you have that crunchier blender wheat and you
can really taste the marshmallows.
Um, yeah.
Uh, boy, as a predictor of, of Dory's box office success, I would say this
isn't a thing that makes you think it's going to be a knockout, um, but might
make you think it's going to be pretty solid.
Uh, it's not like a, like an amazing cereal, but it's, it gets the job done
as, as far as kid's cereals go.
It's a little bit lucky charms.
He, yeah, clone.
I guess that's what happens a lot with these licensed cereals.
I remember when I used to make it, I used to work in video games when I used
to make licensed video games, they would just be like, Oh, let's make this
movie based game a clone of whatever popular game there is and then just put
the movie property on top of it.
Um, and that's become less of a thing these days.
Now you've got things like the Batman game, which are like legitimately the
Rock City Batman games are legitimately like really well-crafted video games.
Uh, that, that give a lot of thought to, to the character, but yeah, there was a
time I think with a lot of these, these licensed products, they're just looking
to graft something, graft a popular franchise onto, uh, something, uh, an
existing formula that already works.
I don't know, Jonah, what do you think of this Dory cereal?
Uh, I'm going to say, uh, it's not as good as the other one.
The story one, it kind of leaves much to be desired.
Yes, the marshmallows taste better, but the oats, which is most of a
cereal, I don't like it.
I, I like the, this is the first time ever I'll say anything good about the
force awakens.
Yeah.
I prefer the force awakened cereal to the finding Dory cereal.
It finally did something.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's still so painful for you to do it, to give it the slightest bit of credit.
I love, I love things.
I love movies.
I love, I, I love TV, this is so much, so much of my anger and hate.
It comes from a place of, I, I like these things.
I want them to be good.
Yeah.
Uh, it pains me that Star Wars was it too much.
So I'm an insane man.
I shouldn't care about this at all.
Did you read Devin Farachi's, um, uh, article this today that
yes, I agreed with it so much, but not in the way that it, like, I'm not, I'm
not saying I'm the type of person he's talking about.
No, no, no, but it is something about the people that are affected as much
as you are saying, but you don't, you don't lash out.
I, but I, but I also think a big part of it is that, uh, fan, like these
fans are now shaping these movies.
They're like kind of like having a big say in what happens with these movies.
Like, uh, it feels like fans are putting their will onto, onto TV and films.
And it's like, that sort of thing of like, I want to see art.
I want to see someone present me with, with, with, uh, with something.
And, and the reason that I don't like Force Awakens is because it is just a
giant catch-all Disney film that what, what, what even is it?
Is it, it's, what's the difference?
Jack Gallison said this and he said it, and it was a, it was a great point.
What's the difference between the gardens of the galaxies and a
Star Wars Force Awakens?
There isn't much different.
There isn't much of a difference.
Yeah.
But I mean, these are both films that people enjoy for sure.
That's not, I think you're just projecting.
You have this ideal of Star Wars and are thinking it's this grand entertainment
that lies above all, that is the first, the first, the first, the original
three movies are, are works of art.
Yeah.
So, but to go and then you trudge through three shitty ones and now expect
like the next one, it's, you know, shame on you.
That's a good point.
But, but, you know, I like to think that this, this comes from a place of
positivity.
Oh, it's great to, it's great to, it's fine to not like stuff.
And it's, it's just when people get to a mode of feeling they're owed
something, uh, that, that's where the danger area starts to, well, the, the,
the Devon Farachi thing was there was, there was a lot of different sides of
fandom, which I don't like either.
And there, there, it hits on a few different things.
And he also didn't mention a few things.
I thought he could have mentioned a few things about fandom that, that are
annoying, that, that he doesn't talk about.
But, but you're right.
I feel like at some point I won't care about this at all.
And I'll have my, that's not true.
You're going to be just as mad 50 years from now.
Yeah.
See, I'm just being honest with myself.
Yeah.
It's because there was, it's because there was a female Jedi, isn't it?
I knew it.
Star Wars had a great female lead.
It has nothing to do with the original.
Yes.
She does get into a gold bikini and I understand how that is.
And she also has to be saved in the first episode.
Yeah, but she's a badass though too.
She, she, I heard the episode where you kept on saying that.
It sounds like a, it sounds like, I love women, women are great.
She, they go to save her in, in, in episode four, New Hope.
And she's like, you idiots.
And she pretty much shows them the way out of there.
She's a badass and she's a cool, strong female character.
I wish I could, we could have had a blood pressure monitor on Mitch.
The first time he was watching The Force Awakens to see what happened every time
John Boyega appeared on screen.
Jesus fucking Christ.
You know what?
Whether he was black or white, the character is bad.
You're telling me that you're, oh no, no, no, no.
I totally want a female president, just not this female.
Hold on a second.
See, this is where you get into a tight spot with all this stuff.
Real tight spot.
Listen, there are a lot of bad people out there who already hate the Ghostbusters
movie because they hate, they don't want women in the lead.
And that, and that, and to me, I'm going to wait and see the Ghostbusters movie.
I know people who worked on it and I liked them.
So I, and I'm rooting for it to be good.
Sure.
I want it to be good.
A lot of great people involved.
Of course.
And I want it to be a good thing.
I, I, I don't, I wanted Force Awakens to be good with all of my soul.
I wish it was, I wish it was a movie I liked.
And it wasn't 100% a movie I liked.
I'll come to, I'll, I'll, I'll have my piece with it at some point.
Do you have your piece with episodes one through three?
Yeah.
No, I've found my piece with those.
Yeah.
And I'm, I'm, I'm a person who, I defend them, but I don't love episodes one through
three.
Yeah.
I'm something, I'm something that a prequel apologist myself.
I don't think they're, they're not great, but I think they're not terrible.
They're like, they're kind of watchable and they've got some fun sequences.
You know what I do when I want to be reminded about how much I don't like
those movies as I watch the Gungham style.
I watched it last night.
The video, the video I made.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's a, it's a thing I watched occasionally.
Uh, and I, I watched it on the, I put it through my TV last night and I love
watching it because they were go, yeah, yeah.
Episode one was real bad and then I just get to enjoy the rest of the, you know,
the sketch, which is, uh, as I've blathered to you many times, it's like, it's
like one of the best sketches of all time.
Oh, God bless you.
And they pat the on of like sketch comedy.
It is really up there, uh, with, I think some of the best.
It's in my top 10 for sure of sketches of all time.
Thank you for saying that.
And also, uh, it is, it is one of the funniest sketches and check it out.
A Gungham style.
Uh, and you can see how dark Nick Weigar's soul actually is, but you know,
it's crazy.
I was working at the soup at the time that came out and, uh, I was miserable.
And like, you know, the soup is a great show and it's great for, you know,
like it's a great clip show.
Joel's great.
KP, all the people that worked on it are fantastic, but I was miserable there
because I was being told every day outside of writing jokes that I had to
like make videos and sketches that were topical and stuff like that.
And they want mashups.
They want viral.
They, you know, all those things.
And then your, that sketch came out and I was like, first I was like,
it's like, I wish I could make something like this.
Uh, this also reminds me I should quit.
And then I quit the soup and it was like one of the best things I ever did.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
You told me that before.
And it's a, it's pretty crazy to hear.
Uh, thank you for saying that.
Uh, I did some good.
Yeah.
I, I will, I will, yeah, he does a lot of good.
He lets you stay on his podcast.
The Doughboys, uh, his podcast.
I like Jonah being here.
As far as that cereal is concerned, I'm going to, there's going to be a hung
jury in this case because, uh, I actually preferred the, I actually preferred
the Finding Dory cereal.
Um, I, the lemon character in the, the, the bland marshmallow, the
Star Wars cereal just didn't quite work for me, uh, even though, uh,
episode seven is a lot of fun.
Oh, I also, I want to say, you, you, because you questioned me about this
the other day, we were talking about movies.
I liked Edge of Tomorrow.
I loved Mission Impossible four that came out.
I love this five is five.
I'm sorry, five together.
We have, we saw five together.
Uh, it was, uh, one of the worst theater going experience in my life.
We had fun.
Uh, but no, there's plenty of blockbusters I like, but you know, whatever.
Also, I would just want to quickly say, uh, uh, Doughboys has sold out.
We got a big package today, Nick.
Oh yeah.
We were, we arrived at the studio, uh, we arrived at the studio and there
was a giant box, uh, from the Santita's Chip Corporation.
That's right.
You'd been, now Mitch, you'd been pestering the Santita's Chip people to send
you free chips.
I told them not to send us free chips because the Doughboys can't be bought.
Um, they acquiesced and sent us 10 bags, 10 bags of chips in a giant box.
Um, and I just like to announce that, uh, we will be sending the Santita's
chips back to honor the Doughboys pledge.
I'm keeping those GIFs.
Doughboys can be bought and we were bought and it's delicious.
Thank you to Santita's.
Speak for yourself, not for me.
Um, that was Cyril, just like a restaurant.
We value your feedback.
Let's open up the feedback.
Today's email comes to us from Kelly Dwyer.
Kelly writes, subject line, question for my silly boys.
Howdy mates.
So my father is a classically trained French chef.
He's been executive chef at three restaurants in Chicago, prior to having
to give up the trade in order to raise myself and my two siblings as my
mother's white collar career took off.
Chef hours just weren't in the offing while we sprung up in the suburbs.
He remains a caterer and a brilliant chef, but as with most people that cook
great dishes for a living, he's low to eat his own meals as such.
He often falls back on leftovers or fast food.
And though he isn't a glutton, some of the fast food choices rank as rather
calorically, calorically unwieldy at Burger King, uh, though not every time,
this was his order through my youth, triple Wapworth cheese, double cheese,
double male, no other accoutrements, condiments, one patty out of the three,
run through the broiler twice so as to give it a charred edge.
It was, it unshockingly was delicious.
I haven't had one in 20 years though, because it's still like
fitting inside of my sports coats.
What's the weirdest or most over the top order your parents ever put in a chain?
I could go on about him asking every Popeyes we stop at if they have chicken
livers, but that's a podcast for another lifetime.
Uh, thanks for the email, Kelly.
Uh, Kelly is the editor of yeah, who's ball don't lie, which is a, he's an
awesome basketball writer and a great Twitter follow.
If you like the NBA or just like a good Twitter people, that was a great email.
Yeah.
Very good email.
Um, I wonder if there's any relation to the great match wire who also is from Chicago.
Very possible.
Well, I was interesting.
Um, uh, so, uh, a pretty specific question, let's broaden it to, uh, if you guys
have a reference to a parent story, that's fine.
But, uh, the question is the weirdest or most over the top order your parents
ever put into the chain, or I'd also say we could broaden it to any weird, uh,
over the top order you've ever seen.
Huh.
I, my parents aren't that weird.
Like my dad, uh, he, he, he, he would just do like a chicken burrito with
rice and not even like with, like in salsa.
Yeah.
And then he would get a turkey sandwich, like every day for lunch.
He went and walked and got those.
He, he, he wouldn't be, you know what?
My dad did like his steak more well done for a long time.
And then, and, and I don't know what that was from.
I think that was a product of, I think he was right.
Like when he was being raised, there were a lot of kids in the house and they
probably didn't have a great quality meat and he just, they had it, they had it
well done the steak would always just be well done.
But besides that, I've never, I never really saw my mom and dad do anything
too, too crazy.
Um, I, I actually, I've, I can't even, I can't even, I can't even think of a
moment where I've been like, Oh man, this, this person is going like on a
crazy ordering spree.
And I, I, I don't really do that too much either.
Like sometimes I'll be like, Oh, hold the, hold, hold the bread or whatever.
Things like that.
But, but I, I, I sadly, as interesting as that email was, I don't have any
great anecdotes, uh, for me personally about any of that stuff.
I guess as far as weird food stuff, my dad, you know, he's pretty middle of the
road, but you know, he would, every time we go get like plate lunch growing up,
he would, uh, cut every, the, whatever was on the plate, he'd cut it up and
mix it all together.
So, you know, if you had like barbecue beef, um, uh, max salad and rice, he
would like dice it all up with a fork and knife and mix it all together.
Then pour soy sauce over it and then eat it all together in one sloppy mess.
Wow.
And that's pretty much a garbage plate.
Yeah.
Big garbage plate for my garbage dad.
Yeah.
My parents said, I feel like kind of conventional tastes.
We didn't, uh, we didn't dine out a lot as a family.
We had a lot of meals at home.
So yeah, nothing comes to mind specifically with parents.
I have seen some, I have just observed some odd orders in general.
I remember once I was at a Baja Fresh, where, which we recently did with a
Claudio D'Arioli, and, uh, there was a guy who was just adamant about getting
every element of a, of a, a, one of their, their platters that they had, but
all his individual sides and they were like trying to convince him that was
cheaper to get, like just get the plate with chicken and rice and, and beans.
But he's like, no, I want a side of chicken, a side of beans, a side of rice.
And was like, so like, I like, I don't know if he had some weird thing about
his food being divided or whatever, but yeah, I don't know.
I get, I get weird out about people who have very specific alterations they
want to make to the existing menu items.
Cause like, give the actual thing a try, you know, let, let the default kind
of, uh, uh, be your guiding, your guide post.
And you don't have to make these things super customizable.
Cause for me, I think part of why people do that is for control more so than
because it's their actual taste.
It's just like, oh, I want to make sure I can metal with this thing.
And this gives me some sense of control in my life.
Um, it's like the people with the super specific Starbucks orders, you know,
like, oh, I want, I want 18 pumps in my mocha or whatever.
It's like, yeah, half calf, half, you know, cat, just decaf, half calf,
all that shit.
Yeah, I can remember, I've said it on neighbor four, but I remember
Al Jean's coffee order, uh, still after being, uh, out of that job for almost
five years, large decaf, non-fat, sugar-free, iced vanilla latte.
What's the point at that point?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's a good question.
But, uh, like, I can remember it, not that he's a bad man or anything like
that, by the way, but, uh, I was thinking my sister loves mustard.
I was just thinking of that.
She would like dip pickles and mustard, but I don't even know if that's
that crazy.
Uh, I feel like I like mustard.
I like, uh, and she would dip bread and a muster.
Like she, she loved mustard.
It's a little weird.
Yeah.
She liked, she loved mustard, but fries and mustard I can get into.
Yeah.
I'm into that too.
Yeah.
I feel like, I feel like, uh, there's nothing there.
I think my family was too afraid of being a pain in anyone's ass.
Yeah.
Like, uh, like, uh, we were afraid to step on any toes.
Well, in the end, uh, Kelly, that was a bullshit question.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
Sorry your dad gave up, uh, his dreams.
We like the question, Kelly.
The ball don't mind either does Jonah.
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Jonah Ray, thank you so much for coming with us, being so charitable with your time.
Oh, that was, it was a long time coming.
I'm glad I finally made it.
We're glad to, the feud has come to an end, except for now, the feud that you're
with Burger Brigade and against Spoon Nation and you.
Well, I just want to be on the right side of history when it comes to, you know,
you and Eugene have to fight now.
Do you know that's a part of it?
Is that it?
Yeah.
I don't know, but it's going to kind of get in the way of, uh, we have an
alliance, the Pinoy Boys, uh, which is, you know, the podcasts we're going to start
one day.
This is like Game of Thrones.
Yeah.
Um, that sounds like you've never watched Game of Thrones.
Uh, Jonah, uh, anything you would like to plug at this point?
Uh, no, just, uh, you know, Hidden America is on CISO.
They have the, the summertime deal going on, $3.99 for a ton, a ton of great stuff.
Uh, but yeah, it's, uh, Mike and I, uh, and our friends worked really hard on this
show and it'd be really cool if people want to see it.
And the first episode, uh, Boston, that Mike, uh, you know, is in and brilliantly
plays the role of Chaz Duffy, which is our Guy Fieri character.
Um, we, we bring some of this hostility to screen, uh, but in this situation,
you're the asshole.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
I mean, here, I think a lot of people probably still think I'm the asshole.
Joe, it's great.
Jonah's great.
And then the show is really funny.
Check it out.
Yeah.
Check it out.
It's great.
Yeah.
That's it.
If you're in a band, as I always like to say this, if you're in a band and you, uh,
want your song played on my podcast, Jonah Radio, uh, sent, go to Jonah Radio at
gmail.com and send us a link to your, uh, your band camper, your SoundCloud or
whatever.
And, uh, we, uh, hang out and we're going to have you guys on soon, which would
be a lot of fun.
Yes.
Excited about that.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Cool.
Great.
The feud has come to an end.
For now.
That'll do for this episode of Double Boys.
Until next time, for the Spoonman, Mike Mitchell.
I'm Nick Weigar.
Happy eating.
See ya.