Doughboys - Kreation Organic with Jackie Johnson

Episode Date: November 11, 2021

Jackie Johnson (Natch Beaut) joins the 'boys to discuss fast food commercials and vegan eats before a review of Kreation Organic. Plus, a juice-themed edition of Family Food. Sources for this week's intro: https://wellpared.com/full-history-juicing-not-trend/ https://firstwefeast.com/drink/2014/11/the-man-who-discovered-juicing-is-named-norman-walker https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/11/the-man-who-first-juiced/382586/ https://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-jack-lalanne-20110124-story.html https://www.smobserved.com/story/2019/04/20/lifestyle/dont-panic-its-organic-at-kreation-organic-kafe-in-brentwood/3890.html http://voyagela.com/interview/meet-marjan-sharshar-kreation-organic-santa-monica-venice-beverly-hills-west-hollywood-marina-del-rey-toluca-lake-el-segundo-manhattan-beach-brentwood/?doing_wp_cron=1636524601.0485360622406005859375 https://www.kreationjuice.com/pages/about-us Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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as juicer-inventor Walker bragged, the proof is in the smoothie. LeLane lived until age 96 and Walker himself until 99. This week on Doe Boys, Creation Organic. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, sweet baby Ray's Leota, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Wow. Kind of a compliment again. That was from Jake from Michigan, who writes, a punch up of my last email, keep up the great work, guys, and stay safe, and then had sent a previous email 90 minutes before this with the pitch, glaze Leota. A little alt there,

glaze Leota. And then that one included, you guys helped the work days go a little easier, stay safe, which is very nice. Thank you, Jake from Michigan, roast Spoon Man, a Gmail account. Must be a hoot in that email system. Must be having a lot of fun in there. I like that they took the 90 minutes of contemplation, and I was like, ah, that's what I should have said. Sweet baby Ray's Leota. I don't like this that people are punching up. That terminology, it just makes me feel like they are in our terrible world. Don't make them do that. Well, no one has to punch it up. If you want to send it an alt, you can send it an alt.

Oh, this terminology, just stop doing this to these people. Don't turn these people into comedy writers. It's just bad. Look, don't be like Wigs. Look at it. Glaze Leota is like the first beat, and then the second beat is heightened. Sweet baby Ray's Leota. Oh, God. And then the third beat, you connect the two. Sucks. Then you button it up and get out of there. Comedy's back. Live comedy's back. It's back. Do you like barbecue sauce? I know, Mitch, I know you like your sweets. Do you like some sweets with your meats?

First of all, I'm not hugely a sweets person. That's not true. I guess I'm thinking of you liking sweet drinks, like liquid calories. I like soda. You do like your sodas. You do like your island tiki drinks. Besides that, I mean, so yes, and that way I do like sweets, but I'm not a little dessert hunter. I'm not searching for a little piece of chocolate at 10 p.m. I'm not that. Hey, look, I like chocolate cake. I like a good chocolatey dessert. I do like that when I'm out to dinner and stuff, but I'm not eating dessert every night of the week. I'm rarely eating sweet stuff. And honestly, I mean, I'm trying not to ever have sweet.

I'm trying not to have sweet drinks most of the time, but do I? Wait, what did you ask if I liked? I was asking if you like barbecue sauce. Thank you, guest. Sorry, I can't sit here and not say anything when you're not paying attention to your own damn show. Barbecue sauce I don't love is my answer. Interesting. I don't like it on pizza. Look, there's a place for that sweet barbecue sauce sometimes. I like barbecue chips, but like that thick, like a bottle of barbecue sauce from the grocery store. I don't know. I'm sure there's some that are great.

There's the more molassesy sort of barbecue sauces that I like. I like ones that are a little bit more vinegary, I would say. It's usually my preference. I'm with you on that. By the way, you said dessert hunter earlier. Just to give people some idea of what pitching is like if you're in a room. So Mitch says dessert hunter, and then someone might be like, here's a pitch for a roast, a two rock dessert hunter. And then everyone could enjoy that a little bit. And someone could riff on that and be like, it's kind of in the hunter world. What if he was like, Stevia Irwin, the dessert hunter. And so be like, oh, that's good. And then someone would be like, that's gilding the lily.

I think that might be a hat on a hat. This is why he makes the big bucks, folks. Man, to be in those rooms. And then it would be like, when is lunch? We should get lunch, and then they'd look at the menu. Yeah. A bunch of people like paying attention, looking at their phones, thinking mostly about what meal they're going to have next. You know what? It's not a hard job at all. You know, writing, I think acting, I fuck writers. Fuck all writers, fuck the WGA. Wow. Shots fired your fellow union. That's right. You guys are fucking fools. Wow. Also, so many, so many, so much of comedy now is like, I'm a writer for whatever. I'm not Gorko's planet, but like, I'm a writer for like,

Busy B on Netflix. Yeah. And then like, and then there are these Twitter, what am I doing? Why am I starting fights with writers online? I'm a writer for Busy B. And here's my fucking stupid Twitter feed. Get the fuck out of here. Check out my new episode of Busy B. I'm one of the credit writers on Busy B. Check it out. Writer for Busy B, Emmy nominee, forever lonely. Get the fuck out of here. You're stupid profiles. You're stupid Twitter fucks. Shut down Twitter. Yeah. Three time Emmy loser.

Yes. Oh, Busy B writer. Shut down Busy B. Hey, we have a count for the Busy B writers room. All the Busy B writers, they all collaborate on one shared account and then like funny stuff that we say, we just tweet it out. The Busy B writers room apologizes for the insensitive tweet we sent earlier today. That's what happens. Shut it all down. Why is that fact that the Walking Dead in 2016 was the number one show with 11 million people and then now it's the number one show with 1.6 million people? Oh, yeah. That's the cable audience. The cable audience is the people who actually watch cable TV. It's decaying and same as true with network TV. Now people say that everyone's

just watching things on streaming now, but also people just might be watching less stuff in general. I was thinking, my godfather's son is out here. I love that that's a personal relationship of yours. My godfather's son. Neil Kylie's brother is out here and I was showing him around Hollywood. And I was like, I was like, that place was here. Now it's like UCB Sunset. I'm like, it's closed now. And I was driving around Hollywood. I was like, Hollywood is in decay. There's so much shit that just doesn't exist anymore. Sure. And I'm like, where do people hang out? I don't even know what Hollywood is right now. And so many of the places that I was like, that place is cool. Shut down now. Sure. This sucks. We're in apocalypse. Anyways,

I'm in a bad mood today, apparently. We should introduce our guests to bring up the mood. What? You also have a drop to play. Oh, fuck. The Spoon Nation. Emma, do you have it ready? I haven't pulled up and ready. Thank you, Emma. Yes, please. Okay, you're gonna keep this in, aren't you? Oh, you know it. Here it is. I hear a gobble. I look up. Sitting perched atop a house are two turkeys. Turkey's on the rooftop? Turkey's on the rooftop. Uh-huh. I look up. The turkeys fucking fly down. They fly now. I've never seen a turkey fly. They fly now? Yeah, these things were flying. Wow. I know. A man who's never seen a turkey fly. They fly now. That's right.

A couple turkeys. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Nice sample there. Yeah. It was a nice, it was a very nice sample. I liked it. You know what that is, Wikes? It's learning to fly by Pink Floyd. Oh, okay. There you go. That's one of my favorite songs. I got into a big fight with Bugmane because he was saying, because I was like, Roger Waters is Pink Floyd. You know, like I love all the guys, but and then whatever. He was, he was like, someone doesn't like the division bell. I love the division. That's the thing is like, this was my favorite song. And he was like, David Gilmore is actually Pink Floyd. And I was like, oh, fuck, why am I arguing with you? I love Bugmane. Anyways,

hi Mitch, Emma and Drop King, longtime listener, first time dropper. Here's a little drop inspired by Mitch's amazement at seeing turkeys fly for the first time. Thanks for the years of great shows. That's bullshit. Tim at Tim Grammart on Instagram at Tim G R A H A M A R T felt a little purposefully excluded there. The hello to not say you're Mitch Emma and the Drop King. I know I don't like her. No, hi Mitch, Nick, Emma and Drop King. I don't say Nick. I think you may be skipped over it. Yeah. I want to be surprised. Let's introduce our guest, why? Because we got a great guest. What a guest we have today. We're gonna, you know what, maybe we're maybe things we're in kind of a sour mood, but we're going to cheer right up

because our guest is a Ray of Sunshine, host of the Natch Butte podcast, Jackie Johnson is back. Hi Jackie. Hi, you have to name my newest credit. You didn't say that I play Belinda Busby on Busyby. That's right. I'm sorry. I pay the mother, the mother B. Yeah. Check her out as Belinda Busby. Sorry we attacked that show so much. You will never get a guest star, Mitch. I will see of it. God damn it. Number one role in Hollywood. Don't talk shit about anyone else's show publicly, because we're all petty as fuck. That's true. Be blacklisted forever. Fucking Busyby writer's room is going to be out for me.

Jackie, you've got to, we're very, very, very happy to have you back. It's been too long. Your name on our video call, you changed to The Jackster. Is that, is that a nickname of yours? I'm trying to get it started, so I would really appreciate everyone just double downing on that. I entered the chat and, you know, Nick says Wigs and Mitch says Mr. Slice. I felt left out. I just came in with Jackie Johnson, like an asshole. So I had to come up with something. I came up with The Jackster. I think it fits. I think it's festive. So feel free to call me that for the rest of the show, for the rest of my life. Fine with me. You got a hashtag, The Jackster. It's very, it's scary to me because it's like the Joker. It feels like the, it feels like you,

but oh yeah. It could be a villain name for sure. You've been Joker-fied. It feels like, it seems a bit scary. Don't fuck with The Jackster. I want to, I want to like a horror exhibit yesterday. And they had like the original like Batman. Well, look, it was horror sci-fi and like a bunch of different shit, but they had the original Michael Keaton Batman suit and stuff. This was on Hollywood Boulevard. I want to, I want to an exhibit on Hollywood Boulevard. I have, I have a, like I said, my God. Did you go to a costume store? Is that what happened? I didn't go to a costume store. Okay. I'm such a fool that I thought that I was in some sort of exhibit and I was in a costume

store looking at costumes and being like, what a great exhibit. They had Jay Leno's hair. It was labeled talk show host wig, but it was there. I don't think that Jay Leno wears a wig in real life. I don't think Jay's bald under there. Yeah. Not what I've heard. Don't tell my little you better not tell my secret to anybody, Kevin. That's just, you got it, Jay. I shouldn't do your part for you. You went to, so you went, you saw Michael Keaton's bat suit. Yeah. And then like a, you know, like there was a bunch of other pumpkin head was in there. How much was this? And did you use a group on to get in? You pay it off in installments. So there's four easy installments.

No, I don't know how much it was. My Godfather's son bought me the ticket, but there were some cool stuff in there. Like some of the, like the prop, like actual prop used gremlins and stuff like that. It was, it was, it was interesting. Yeah. There was some fun stuff in there. There's some really wacky museums around that area. I've never been to the Museum of Death, but I'm too scared to go. Have you all been to that? I've never been there either. And I told, I told my Godfather's son, I told them about it. And, and he was like, that sounds like horrible. And I was like, yeah, I don't know. It does. I've never, I've never been excited to go see it, I guess. I think it's like rotten.com printed out

like the whole, the whole play. I don't want to go. That's all I know. Rotten.com, man. That was. It ruined my life. What a fucking, that's so crazy that so many like kids of our generation would just go to rotten.com and look at fucking whatever, tub girl. Don't look up tub girl. No. No, don't look at that. Don't look for that. I don't want that. But I'm just saying, that's what people, that like, you had to see that as a child. Yeah. Well, you know what, I had a sister and so we were pure and clean and I went to my cousin's house, my boy cousins, and they were like, Hey, look at this dead body. Like they pulled it out. So wow. It's all the men.

I'm sure you can still see stuff like that, but it feels more protected now. Like I feel like a rotten wouldn't fly as much now, right? Am I wrong? I think there's just subreddits that just have all that shit and it's, it's even more depraved or, or like, you know, like dark web message boards. I remember the thing I always remember, the early internet thing I saw was. That's by the way, that's where you fucking find dough boys is in the dark web. Kids are just posting us a link to the show. I remember there was a, there was like a porno slot machine that my friend found in high school and it was called the slut machine. And it was just like, it was do the slot and then it would be like naked ladies would come up. You have it in your

home now, right? You bought it like how people buy fucking machines. Yeah. I have a full size one. It's like, I have a Ms. Pac-Man tabletop and then I have the slut machine next to it. Wow. You have the, the Busy B arcade game too. Uh, when they, when they developed that. It's like a beat them up. It's like the Simpsons arcade game. It's pretty fun actually. That game was so hard. That game was too hard. It was a quarter eater, quarter much eater. Yes. Yeah. It was fun though. Like, uh, Marge hit someone with a vacuum when at home reviews. Bart used his skateboard and then Homer and Lisa, I'm going to draw blanks on.

Lisa used jump rope, I think. Yes. And I think Bart used his, um, skateboard. Oh, he did use a skateboard, skateboard. He did slam people with, with the skateboard. I know that. So what did Homer use? Emma's looking it up. I think he used frosted, frosty chocolate milkshakes. Yeah. Eat one frosty chocolate milkshake, bad guys. Is that your Homer impression? It's my season one Homer. Okay. Uh, yeah, I don't, I don't remember Homer's weaponry. Do we, did he have like a bowling ball or something? Oh, maybe. He clobbered someone with a bowling ball. I don't fucking remember. I would always be Marge.

Yeah. Marge is cool. Marge is cool. My dream is to smack somebody with a vacuum. Okay. I have, I have it right here. The player chooses for, this is from the Simpsons fandom wiki. The player chooses from one of the four Simpsons family members, Homer, who punches and kicks Marge, who swings her vacuum cleaner, Bart, who wields a skateboard and Lisa who, who uses a jump rope like a whip. There you go. So the, yeah, Homer has nothing. He just No, he's like a monk. Yeah. Impressive. He's like a monk. Yeah. He's like a monk. Well, he's clobbering people. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, sorry, we're not fucking losers. Anyways, moving on. How dare you. Jackie and I aren't losers. We don't know the DND class of monk.

Here's what, here's what I wanted to ask you, Jackie. Yeah. Uh, because hold on a second. Yes. Do you expect us to know the user class DND of monk? I think, I think people who play RPGs generally are aware that a, a monk is, is oftentimes an unarmed combatant. Like that. That's what I assumed. He's better without a weapon. Yeah. I just assumed that a monk would have the physical training, but would never resort to a weapon. That's what I just assumed. Right. So, so Jackie was able to pick it up. Uh, the Jackster was able to pick it up from context clues. Thank you. But you're just being obstinate. Well, then again, I'm a guy who went into a fucking Halloween store and thought I was a fucking museum.

I could see how that would fool you. Cause have you been into a spirit? They've got huge displays that they have interactive things. So I, I'm not, I'm not hating on you for that. Just to be clear, it didn't happen, but. Wow. They, they have Toby McGuire's Spider-Man costume. It's like a plastic Spider-Man mask and a t-shirt with Spider-Man on it. And it comes in multiple sizes. They did have the helmet that William Defoe wore as the green goblin. I'm showing it to them right now. Just holding that up on his phone. Very cool. The guy told me to use a hashtag for the place, but I've also already forgot the name of the place, which sucks. Just, just use hashtag the jackster. Let's get that trend. Hashtag the jackster.

Well, I gotta do something. I have, we went to a place today and I have something left over for it. It's a, it's, it's like a, uh, uh, what would you call this? Like a shot? Like immunity shot. Immunity shot, but it's like, well, like a, it's in a syringe. Yes. It says a syringe form factor, but it's for oral consumption. Yes. There's no needle. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to take this shot here. During the show, I'm going to do it right now. Wow. You're going to do it now. Yeah. We're not even in the restaurant yet.

He doesn't want it to get hot. I don't want it to get, I don't want a hot shot. Wow. AKA fucking, uh, I couldn't think of it fast enough. Do you mean the league of the Charlie Sheen movie? Is that what you're thinking of? Yeah. Okay. All right. Here we go. Ready?

Shooting it right down its throat. Yeah. Okay. Wow. Look at that. What are you tasting there? Are you going to, are you going to save it? I'll save it. Okay. Color me intrigued.

It was nice. I'll say that much. It was very nice. And that's normally how you consume like country gravy, right? You could reuse that. You could put anything in that now. It's a little bit marinara. I'm not going to put country gravy. I'm not going to put marinara. Okay.

So far when I do my hot shot part due. Which is second on the syringe again. Jackie, so this year I made the decision to not eat meat for the entire year. I've been vegetarian, not vegan. You have been, as is my understanding, vegan for quite some time. 12 years. Wow. And a lot of people have messaged me about your vegetarianism.

A lot of people. How have they? Oh yeah. I don't know if y'all are aware of this. You have a pretty big audience. And they're very loyal and there are some crossovers with the honeys, my listeners, and they always are like, why you're not eating meat? You have to talk to them. You have to go back on Doe Boys, blah, blah, blah.

They're going to be so happy that I'm back. Wow. I love it. Shout out to the honeys that are listening. Thank you to the take the honeys to do who do listen to Doe Boys. And let me ask you this, because you've done this for 12 years. Have you deviated at all? Have you had any instances where you're like, whatever, I'm back in Texas. It's just easier to have. My options are limited.

Or you're just like, ah, fuck it. I feel like having some battered shrimp. How diligent have you been over the span? So meat wise, I have had meat, let's see. I had to shoot an Applebee's commercial because I am gay for pay. So I will eat a Dan Burger. I'll do what I need to do. Mommy's trying to get those checks. So I had to eat ribs in an Applebee's commercial. And I went through a very diligent auditioning process.

They literally said, are you vegetarian? And we had to say no into the camera. And they said, because we've had an issue with this, and we don't want anyone throwing up on our set. And I said, I'm not, you know, and I booked it. And I was like, well, motherfucker. So I was at it for the July party and I ate a piece of chicken because I was like, I need to make sure I can handle this.

And it was like riding a bike. I could handle it. So then I went on set and I ate those nasty ribs. And I'm not saying Applebee's food is nasty. What I'm saying is this is something that's maybe come up on this show. Food on television is very fake. And I was eating ice cold ribs because the little ice, I guess, was supposed to look like sauce. I don't know. They were literally ice.

And so I'm like, yum, you know. But I did have to eat some. I asked for a spit bucket after about 12 hours of shooting because I didn't realize I could do that. Because, you know, that's another thing, pulling the curtain back a little bit. We talk about this on Busybee all the time. People don't really eat in eating scenes.

They spit in between because if not... Yeah. Yeah. Has that been your experience, Mitch? Yeah, yeah. You know, sometimes I mean, like, yeah, it gets to the point where you have to... I shot a little independent movie up in Maine recently. And it was like...

It was supposed to be gross that I was eating this cheese sandwich. And it was like American cheese and cheese whiz on top of it. And that, like, was making me gag. Because it was also like, you know, 8 a.m. or something. And then I was supposed to take big... Like, it was supposed to look gross on my face. And just biting into a cheese... Like, just having a big mouth of cheese whiz why?

Turns out it's bad. It's not a lot of fun. It was not a... It was not fun. And also, I think that there was, like, meat... Like, they shouldn't have put any meat on it or something. But so I was spitting that out and almost throwing up. But then there was other times...

I remember on Love, I ate, like, Jell-O and Pepsi. And I was just really scarfing it down. I was, like, trying to make myself burp and stuff and be gross. Well, it looks more real if you eat it and you eat it. But then after, again, a few hours, you're like, I can't eat anymore. So that's when you asked for the bucket. Yeah.

I don't have a lot of experience eating on set, but I did do it at McDonald's web ad years ago. And in this ad, I got to hold a Picture Big Mac, which is the, you know, the fake Big Mac. McDonald's has their own, like, food team list. I've never told this story. Yes. We've had this podcast for...

Oh, all right. I'm pretty sure I have. I think this is a thing I've told this story before you've forgotten in the same way that I've lived in this apartment for a year, and you were like, wait, you moved before we started recording? That is not 100% true. Okay.

You said you named the city you lived in, which was... Yes. Is what? The **** neighborhood. The **** neighborhood, which now you have to bleep. And I've never heard that before. I've never heard you say that before. I've definitely said it.

Anyway, like I've told this Big Mac story, regardless, I get handed this Picture Big Mac, and it's like I'm holding a Fabergé egg. Like, they're so protective of this thing because there's a **** guy with a jeweler's loop who's down there like airbrushing individual sesame seeds to make this **** thing look as picture perfect as it needs to be to meet McDonald's standards.

And they're like talking me through it, like what I can and can't do. They're like, don't eat it. Don't squeeze it too hard. Like, don't get it too close to your mouth, you know? And then they were like, don't **** it. Don't you dare **** this. They saw me unzipping.

And then, but the main thing I remember is that it was so awkward to hold because there's like every time you need to make sure that it's facing the lens always with three points of cheese. Wow. So there's like one slice of cheese where it's got two of its corners

facing out another one with one of those corners and it had to be positioned. So three points of cheese. It's like Barbara Streisand. You can only show one side on camera. Right. Wow. It's the Streisand effect with a big Mac.

And yeah, so I was like, I was just, the only thing I could think about was like, like, you know, whatever, trying to just get through my lines but making sure I've got to get three points of cheese oriented correctly for this **** you know, dumb ass spot I'm doing. And you got fired?

I got fired. Yeah. Well, I mean, I **** the big Mac. That was the issue. I knew it. They told me not to. Why? So you tell the story in like the early days of Doe Boys

and I was like, wow, that's really interesting. That's cool. Like, was it like one of those? Season one Doe Boys. Season one Doe Boys. Yeah. So, so Mitch, yeah. So I had to, I did a McDonald's web ad.

Why? Cause oh my God, that's so fun. Yeah. So it was, well, I mean, you've done, I feel like you've done more ads than I have probably. No, not really. Oh, well, yeah, I did this McDonald's web ad. And but I sure hope to, I love this industry.

Wow, you sound a lot different than you do now. Your whole attitude has changed. It's true. Yeah. No, we hated things when we started the show. It was only six or, was it seven years ago? When the **** did the show start? 2015.

Seven years? I know, it sucks. We got to end it there. We got, look, we got to end it. Howard Stern's been saying that for 40 years. Anyway, so back to me. So I had a really rough year. I was just saying to Nick before we started, 2018.

I was here at the end of 2018 last time. That's right. And then basically my entire life fell apart at the beginning of 2019, which we don't really have to get into here. But my marriage, I was married, my marriage fell apart. I got a divorce, all the **** I was not expecting. I ate some sushi. I ate sushi two or three times.

I remember the first time I was like looking up at this guy going, I'm sorry. It was like I lost it because I've been so good. And I was in Hawaii. I visited Lauren Lapkus on the set of The Wrong Missy. And David Spade took us all to Nobu. And I was being good. I was like, I'll have a veggie roll please.

But they put this beautiful piece of tuna in front of me. And I **** ate it. I **** ate it. And I loved it. It was **** delicious. And then it set me ablaze. I was like a fiend. I couldn't get enough.

And so I went to Nobu like maybe three or four other times in LA after that. And it was the best **** food. And I loved it. But then I said, Jackie, this isn't what you do. This is not your beliefs. And I said, okay, goodbye, Ocean. I stopped. Wow.

So I've had a few moments of weakness. The thing about dairy is that I just can't eat it. It'll **** me up. So even if I wanted to let go, you know what? I'm just going to have some ice cream. No, I can't do that. It will ruin my life if you catch my draft. So I can't just like quote unquote cheat with a little bit of cheese or something.

I can't. So and I have no desire to eat actual animal. Like sometimes I'm like, okay, I can see how fish don't count. I saw, I watched Sea Spirit. See that **** **** me up. That's the worst movie I've ever seen in my life. That was the most disturbing, most **** that movie I've ever seen in my life. And I was sobbing going, I'm never eating fish again.

I am never eating fish again. So it sent me straight. I will not cheat anymore. I vowed to the fish of the ocean. But this has been a long, this has been a long 12 years. It has not been easy. I have starved at many a wedding. I have starved traveling across the world.

It's, it's rough. It's hard, but I'm committed to this. And I've had doctors tell me to eat meat. I've had, it's, it's been hard, but there's no other way as far as I'm concerned. And luckily LA is one of the easiest cities to be vegan in, in the world. Yeah, right. That's true. I mean, I'm not vegan, but I just know that the options here are great.

I mean, Monty's Good Burger. You can have a great time there. Yeah, there's a lot of fabulous places. We went to Monty's on there, a new one opened up in our, near our neighborhood where we live in, you can believe that again, Emma, just to create more work for you. A new Monty's opened up near us and we went to it and I was like, Jesus, this is so fucking good. And I, and this is so Monty's for people who don't know it.

It's like a, you know, it's, it's kind of like a, like it's all plant-based. 100% plant-based. They don't even have, have cheese or, or ice cream there. It's, and I'd say it's closest to like a shake shack in terms of concept. And their burgers are so good. And I had one of these, I was like, this is just such a, this is so tasty. And this is also just such a lie. You tell yourself if you're eating plant-based where you can be like, like, like, oh, I'm,

this is, I'm still having something good for it. Like this is good for me because it's plant-based. I'm just like, no, I'm just eating garbage. I'm just eating all these calories. Yeah. But man, it is, it 100% scratches that in and out or shake shack or whatever, you know, your burger of choice itches. It's, it's so fucking good.

Jackie, I, I want to just point out the correlation between you coming on Doughboys and then your life kind of falling apart, like you said. I'm just wondering, I'm putting the pieces together and wondering if. I didn't want to blatantly say that it was, it was, that was the catalyst, but it definitely was. And I came here today to confront you both. Wow. Yeah. But the good news is my life, I picked my shit up, honey.

Hell yeah. I picked my shit up like a phoenix from the ashes. I soared, I rebuilt, I rebuilt a castle on top of the rebel sweetie. Okay. So it all worked out. It all worked out. Hell yeah. And on that note, you have, you're, you recently were, were married.

You are, and you spent some time, you were saying before we started recording, in, also in New England, as Mitch has been, as Emma has been, with your, your new husband's family. Yes. So last year, during the shutdown, I was living in a beautiful but small apartment with Ben. And, you know, that apartment was meant for people who leave the house and go out and do things. I was losing it. I couldn't stand just, we were getting a little frustrated. And I was like, why don't we take your parents beach house from them?

So we flew to Rahoma Beach, Delaware, and the house is gorgeous. It's beautiful, right by the beach. I didn't even know Delaware had a beach. That's how little I knew about Delaware in general, but also just the general area. Being a Texan, and you know, I went to public schools. We don't really learn geography. I had to learn a lot, but Delaware, what a great state. What a beautiful place.

Vegan food, not so much. I ate a lot of Beyond Burgers. That's all they have on the menus everywhere. That doesn't surprise me. Yeah. There was nothing. It was really rough. Interesting.

But I biked through the beautiful park. I went to the beach. I walked on the beach with my dog every day. I mean, it was absolutely lovely. And then I came back to LA and we started looking for houses. And now I have two bathrooms. Wow. Oh, yeah.

One for each of us, living the dream. But Delaware was great. I also should tell you all that, so I got married in Austin. And we eloped in Austin on Valentine's Day. And guess what? I brought the ice storm. So the horrible ice storm that froze Texas, I got married during it. And we actually couldn't get to our venue.

We had to get married in our hotel room on Zoom. Nobody could come. I couldn't get a makeup artist. We couldn't get the photographer there. Like it was a complete disaster. And then we were iced into the hotel for a week. And there were bread lines. There was no food.

There was no water because the water went bad. So people had to ration water and boil water. Wow. There was no food for me. Jesus. There was no food. I almost died. Like I almost passed out because they were like,

all we have is barbecue sandwiches. And I'm like, I can't eat that. So I was eating buns, which always makes me think of the Simpsons. Like it's full of bunny goodness. The Lisa, the vegetarian episode. I was like, you were like, you're eating like wigs. Yeah, pretty much buns. You had a month.

The wiger was eating a month of buns. Yeah, for a hot dog out there. It's rough out there. Hey, there's a lot of good vegan sausages. Tell me about this because I've, okay. So this, I have had the beyond breakfast links and the beyond breakfast patties recently. I did find those were decent.

Yeah, I love those. But what are your favorite veggie sausages? Because I had some trouble finding any that I liked, especially ones that approximated a hot dog. Okay, have you had the field roast? I have had the field roast. They're hit or miss. They're hit or miss.

I think it starts with the whites, like Ives. The key is you got to put sauce on them. You just got to put sauce on them. So I learned that from Tabitha Brown, who is a vegan TikTok queen. And I make a bunch of her recipes all the time. You got to put barbecue sauce to bring it back up on the hot dogs.

You just have to, you have to base them with some kind of sauce and before you cook them, after you cook them. And it really helps suck up that taste. And then it gives that meat, because the meat has a texture usually, but the taste, we're looking for that taste or replacement. I even think a little vegan butter or real butter, if you're eating that, a little gay on there,

because then it needs that fat. That's the one thing that these vegan dogs are missing is that like fatty element. Because you know when you buy it into like a real hot dog and you taste those juices, you know, the meat juice. Yeah, juice. You sometimes you got to add a little juice, yeah? I feel like you're making us meaty.

Like, oh, I guess I do like the juice. You know what, you're right. I do like the juice. The juice is good. The meaty. Of course you like the juice. Is there a better word? I mean, I remember, I remember, I think about this way too often.

I was at a 4th of July party with my ex-boyfriend who I was dating before my ex-husband who y'all also know who that was. And he's been canceled as has been my ex. But I have a pattern, but I broke it. But I was at a party with him and I ate. And I want to say like, Ryan Perez was there. I mean, like, this is all the old crew, you know?

Sure, hell yeah. I bit into this hot dog and it had the cheese in it. You know the ones that like have cheese in them? And I bit into that motherfucker and it was the best thing I've ever eaten. And I think about it all the time. And the reason was it had all the meat juice. They had that like fatty juice in there.

And I remember being like, wow, this is the best thing I've ever had. And I've been chasing that dream now for years. That was probably 14, 13 years ago. Dear Lord. You know, this is audio only, but for our listeners, the wistful look in the Jackster's eye when she was reminiscing about that hot dog, it was really something to behold.

It was so... Can somebody make that vegan? Like, can you recreate that juice? The like meaty, cheesy hot dog? It was like a brat. It was like a brat with a cheese. It was so good. Sounds like heaven.

It was really good. I remember when I was in Austria, there's a... I think it's called Kaiser Krana. And I'm not... Don't hold me to this, but I feel like the hot dog is more well respected in other countries. I mean, like, look, we got our spots here.

I don't know that... But I'm just saying the availability of hot dogs, there were just hot dog stands everywhere wags. And there was this, I think a Kaiser Krana, which was like... The first of all, they cut a hole in like a piece of bread and they stick the sausage and then they fill it up with the condiments. But it's like a sausage that's filled with cheese. And that is just such a fucking...

Oh man, it was such a... It was so fucking... I ate like five of them while we were over there. It was so... They were so good. And what do you say it was called? A Kaiser Krana? Yeah, Kaiser Krana.

Yeah, you're looking up... Are you looking up hot dogs in Austria? Okay, hold on. But yeah, I think it was... But that combo... Oh my God, it says here at the end, you find out Kaiser Krana was Kevin Spacey. That's a good point because I bit it and I looked

and he was smiling. He liked it. He was liking what was going on. I was like, you freak. You delicious freak. Kaiser Soce. Kaiser Permanente. So, Weigert, these are the ones I have right now.

Okay, these are the light life. I've had the light life. In fact, I have some light life in my drawer right now. And I didn't love them, but I think I'll try to cook them differently. They're okay. You gotta put the sauce. You gotta put the sauce.

It's just the sauce. Yeah, so I would put them in a pan. I would pan sear them and you just baste them with barbecue sauce, baste them with barbecue sauce. And then at the end, you add a little too. It makes such a big difference. And same thing if you make little veggie chicken tenders. If you toss them in a little bit of butter,

it completely changes them. It makes them so much more realistic because again, the juice, you gotta give it that little bit of fat that the real meat has that the vegan doesn't copy. Wow. That's my hot tip. Which by the way, the place we went today,

they should bottle up that juice. The meat juice and sell it as well. They probably do, to be honest. Yeah, this is not a vegan spot that we went to today. Yeah, not a vegan spot. But it does, it is very juice focused, a different sort of juice. We'll get into it right after this break.

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Do it. Welcome back to Doughboys. We are here with a jackster, Jackie Johnson, discussing this week's chain, Creation Organic. Creation Organic was founded in 2007 in Santa Monica by Marjan Sarshar. Originally, she had opened a small menu organic Mediterranean Persian cafe,

and then she started adding cold pressed juices. It became something of a local sensation. There are now 19 stores in the Greater Los Angeles area. Let me say this, because I was like, I don't think I've been to this place before. And then when I got there, I was like, oh wait, I've had some of these, I've had some of their products before.

Just I've never actually been to a store, but there is a lot of emphasis on shitting for a restaurant. Like the first thing I saw inside this, the Creation Organic that I went to in Marina del Rey was a sign that said poop like a pro. Like it is very digestive health focused. Nothing wrong with that. I mean, why not shy away from it?

Sure. They pulled those signs when I was walking. It's like the old, like an old Western. They were pulling those signs because they saw me walking up. But the toilets do like, they changed the toilet side to clothes. They didn't want me shitting in their place is what I'm saying. I just like, I get it and I, but it's just disorienting

because you don't usually see shits so closely associated with the place where you're buying food from. But here they're just like, yeah, they don't shy away from it. They're like, this is our thing. We literally have a juice called the poop enforcer. It says poop on the label. Dear Lord. So this gets into my history with this place,

which is I was working Mitch in a writer's room. And was it busy bee? It was busy bee. We didn't like his packet. Yeah, I got fired. I got fired for fucking a big Mac. Anyway, so. Which just to be clear, it wasn't a rule there.

You just came into the room and fucked a big Mac there. You can't do that. It's this wildly inappropriate in the workplace. That sounds like a Dan Harmon writer's room. Yeah, we're back in season one, Doe Boys. Mitch, we're very proud to be part of the Starburns podcast network here. I still have my Starburns pride. We're all ex-pads on this call.

That is true. Including Emma. So I was working with Sarah Silverman, not to name drop, but that's who it was. And she had brought in poop enforcers for everyone in the room. And she was like, does anyone want to do this? Drink this or you're fired. Drink this or you're fired.

No, it was like an optional thing. But everyone was like, sure, this will be fun, whatever. And so we all drank it and then saw who was going to shit first. And let me tell you, I didn't make it long. That poop enforcer absolutely enforced a BM. I was in that very cramped one-seater restroom pretty quickly. Pretty short order. Jesus.

Had a real laxative effect, yeah. But that was like the time I had creation. And again, it was poop focused and it was a drink that said poop on it. And I think I remember it's still tasting kind of good, just tasting odd. But Jackie, what is your history with the Creation Organic? Why was, yeah. Pretty gross story. The story is that I drank a laxative and then I shit immediately.

Don't see what's gross about that. It didn't faze me at all, to be honest. What is your history with Creation Organic? Why was this one of the places you wanted to talk about? Well, I have been sitting here waiting to get my email asking me to return to Doe Boys. And there was a few places that I wanted to discuss with y'all. And I just have always, I've been a creation fan for a while now. And I wondered if the Doe Boys would ever get a hot take on it.

I first started going there. Jess Rona who grooms my dog. By the way, can we say that Chooch and Mitch had a scene together a few months ago? This is true. You know what's, now I'm gonna get, so I shot that. Wags knows this. I shot that scene with Chooch and I was trying. So I got deathly ill the next week.

And I was, first of all, I was afraid it was Corona. And I was like, one, did I give Corona to Chooch? I thought it was like in my mind. It wasn't Corona. I got tested. But Wags, you remember this. This is where I couldn't even walk. I had a horrible stomach issue where I couldn't.

So this is gross. But then I was trying to figure out where it was from. And then I also did almost in my mind blame Chooch. But Chooch did nothing wrong. Because I know that you kiss Chooch a lot too, right? No. Oh, you don't? No, I think it's disgusting to let dogs lick your face.

Shit, then maybe that was what I... It's not, it's not. Dogs' mouths are cleaner than ours. Okay, all right. Yeah, it's disgusting, but it's true. Chooch and I were open mouth kissing on the... Yeah. On the...

Like Chooch was licking my mouth and I... You thought my dog gave you diarrhea? How dare you? How dare you? Chooch has amazing digestion. She takes a probiotic every day as do I. And I highly recommend that if you don't. Well, they said that it could be like salmon.

Like they were trying to figure out what was wrong with me. Yeah. Like I was like, I was... I was... It was bad where I... Salmonella, did you eat dog treats? Hmm. I don't know what went on.

Maybe Chooch... And look, it wasn't Chooch's fault. But I got like... No, it was not. I got severely sick right after that. But I... You know what? I had a great time shooting with Chooch.

And what we made was really funny. Isn't she so good? Isn't she such a professional? She was... She was me, a giant... Look, a giant man that like most animals are afraid of. Like when I'm lumbering around,

birds fly away and dogs will bark. But Chooch, very calmly sitting in my hands, and we were... We had a great time. But I did... I did really make out with Chooch for the scene. Like she started looking at my mouth, and I just left my mouth open.

And then a week later, first I thought I had corona. It was the white... We went to... We went to... And then the next week, I also thought I was... I should bleep that out.

I don't think it was them. But I was down for a full... I was down for a full week after that. But my experience with Chooch was fantastic. I loved Chooch. She's an incredible actress. Who doesn't like Chooch? There's no one out there who doesn't like Chooch.

There have been three people. Oh, boy. There have been three people that have not liked Chooch. I can count them and I know them all easily. I'll name one if you want. I can bleep it. This is Doe Boyz, baby. This is the big leagues.

Let's hear it, oh boy. I'll talk this shit today. Has **** been on this show? No. You know ****, right? Yeah, that's a chore. Legend. Choochator.

Wow. He hates Chooch. He hates Chooch. He was like, I'm allergic. Get that animal away from me. Oh my God. Which I respect. Wow.

I feel so bad for people who are deeply allergic to animals that everyone else has around so normally. Like I feel horrible, but wasn't even, oh hi. Like not even a friendly hello. It was just get it away from me. And I was like, okay. It's fine.

I still like him. Great guy. Yeah, he's a great guy. But he's on my list. You know what? He's on the Doe Boyz list too then because that can't be a Choochator. That reminds me of Tom Cruise and Magnolia.

When you're just like, I will drop kick those fucking dogs. He's like so like harsh about it when he's going to visit, is it Jason Robards? Jason Robards? Who's that in the movie? Yeah. Legend has it. He bases character off.

Yeah. Wow. Method acting. I'm going to get the other two off the air, but I do want to hear them later. Well, one is this guy who owned a pet store that I went in to get her a lease. She was so rude.

I don't know his name, but I know his face and I know you are motherfucker. Yeah. Dead to us on the Doe Boyz list as well. Yes. Okay, so Jess Rona. Jess Rona, a taste maker. She knows how to cook.

She knows how to crack. Like she's just a classy dame, very well-rounded gal. And she, her old studio used to be in the Toluca Lake area where one of the creations was. And she would always have this juice and she poured me some and I was like, this is delicious. So I made it a point anytime I was in that area when I was running air or something, I would go to creation.

And then they started popping up everywhere. But there are a couple of things on the menu there that are just, if I need a pick me up, I go. And one of them is their coconut water, which I know coconut water is a very polarizing beverage. I am personally a stan and a connoisseur of coconut water. And I'm saying it right now, the best fucking coconut water I've ever had in my life

is the creation coconut water. I've had fresh coconuts pulled out the damn vine in the Bahamas, okay? No, they do it right. I call it the jizz of Zeus. Because I feel, I feel that is what Zeus's jizz would taste like. It would be the coconut water at creation.

It's so good, they put a little salt in it. So it's a little salty, a little sweet, the perfect balance. And if you're hungover or tired or it just replenishes you, it is the best, my favorite beverage, probably in the whole world. Can I just say that I'm surprised that creation just didn't name it that, seeing as they fucking talk about shit so much.

Yes, they should change the name. I really think they should. The jizz of Zeus. Yes. See, I'd be afraid to drink the jizz of Zeus because, wait, does Zeus have lightning powers? Yeah, he's a lightning guy. So I'm afraid that his,

I would be afraid that his jizz would electrify me a little. It might make you glow in the dark or something cool, you know? It'd be cool. So if jizz is like, I'm gonna nut, I'd be like, that way, you know what I mean? Like I would be afraid he was gonna shoot like the equivalent of the electrified gremlin out of his stick. Sure.

Yeah, you don't want pure electricity shot down your gullet. I will say that. It seems like you guys aren't into this conversation about. No, I think it's possible. I think that Zeus could have electric jizz, Mitch. I do too, yeah. I think it's possible. Okay, thank you.

All right, he seems placated. Let's move on. So the, yeah, so you would go and the coconut water is one go to. Do you have another go to there? Yes. So I always get the orange sunrise, smoothie, ad vegan protein powder. It's very expensive.

I want to say it's $15, $16, but again, it's just so good. Their prices are really dumb. We'll talk about it when we each do our breakdowns. Those are my two absolute favorite things. And then obviously the green number two, they have green juices. They have 15 of them. Is that the jizz of anyone or no? It probably is.

Let's say it's the jizz of, could it be Mother Earth's jizz? Oh, Mother Earth's jizz. That's good. I can't sell. Mother Earth's jizz. Everything there just makes me feel like I'm a better person. It just makes me feel healthy. It just makes me feel like I'm doing something good for myself.

And I really love the beautiful glass jars. If anything, if anything y'all got came in the beautiful glass jar. And you know, if you return them to the store, they give you a dollar off. Wow. No, I love that. And I got a couple of things in the glass jars. One of them was the Glamology Smoothie. So I was there at the location I went to.

Can I ask you a question? Yes. Do you think Jesus ever nutted? Wow. Do you think Jesus was a nut guy? I don't think he did. I think that goes against his beliefs, right? He practiced no nut November year round.

That was like a tenet of Christianity. No, but well, the whole Da Vinci Code thing is that Jesus did nut. That's the big reveal. At the end, he had a son. And that's nonfiction, right? The Da Vinci Code. The Da Vinci Code is nonfiction, yeah. Okay, all right.

All the Dan Brown books are biblical canon. They're all nonfiction? Yep. You know, the Da Vinci Code, that was a big book for everyone to read. So I got it and then I read 20 pages in and then I didn't finish it. And then so I never saw the movie. It was one of those ones where I never saw the movie because I was like, I'm going to read this

and I'm not going to see the movie and then I didn't either. I'm going to be honest. I haven't read it or seen it either. So it was just spoiled for me. But I'm not going to see it. Why? No, it's fine. I'm not going to see it.

I actually converted to Judaism. So I don't even know what y'all are talking about. Wow. Who's Jesus? Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, and that's not a bit.

I actually did. That's great. Yeah. Well, sorry for. Look, I just wondered if I wanted to know if he's if he's celebrating. No, not November throughout the year. Why?

That's a good question. I think I think probably yes. I think during his lifetime, I got the the glomology smoothie, which was the person helping me out. Sarah, she was she was very helpful. Came from around the counter and was just like, because I was so clearly disoriented. I was like, I haven't actually been in one of these stars before

and she helped me out. This one was, yes, you were right. Jackie, that everything here is so fucking expensive. Mm hmm. Like it's it's a it's, you know, this is a offensive. Truly. Yeah. Yeah, this this is a this is tart.

And I think that probably things being overpriced for a place that's so oriented on wellness is maybe part of their marketing. Like people are like, oh, because I'm spending more, I know it's better for me, you know. But the glomology smoothie, which was came in the glass jar. I love what color is it? It's kind of a beige. It's kind of I'm holding my phone screen up here.

Kind of a it's kind of like a like the creature from the Black Lagoon's Giz, I guess. Kind of like a mud texture to it. But this one's got its almonds, water, banana, strawberries, avocado, date, cacao nibs, flax meal, and then just a bunch of different like supplements. One of which is bovine collagen powder. So I guess this one's not is it not vegan?

Not vegan. They love they love collagen. They'll put it in everything there. You got to be careful reading those labels. Okay, so I may have fucked up a little bit and inadvertently eaten some some meat byproducts here. Anyway, it's and it's very deep in the label. Like it's like I wish it was it would just say like

because you know you go on there and you're assuming that things are vegetarian and vegan. Anyway, it was a very, very good smoothie and it did make me feel better. Like I drank it and I was like kind of feeling a little groggy. Yeah. You broke your no meat.

You've eaten meat. You're no meat. It's technically not meat. It is an animal byproduct. I would say. Yes. No, I've had some animal byproducts this year inadvertently.

This is I guess is one of them. The other one at the Worchester sauce. You're learning the ways of our people, which is that you have to triple check every item before you. I've bought shit at Creation before and then realized when I get home that it says real milk and I'd have to like give it to my neighbor or something. You just have to be really careful.

Yeah. It's an extra amount of due diligence that you have to do that I did not do in this case. Anyway, I did like the smoothie and hey, maybe that bovine collagen powder put it over the top. But it was rich and delicious, a little bit chalky if I was going to critique it, but it was like a meal's worth of smoothie.

And yeah, it just felt like a million bucks afterwards. Nice. I got a bevy of things. I also got a bevy of things. Why don't we start in the smoothie juice front? All right, fine. I'll start. I'll play your game.

I should have got a bitch be gone. A lot of these things are, these are really, a lot, they have some crazy names. Mitch, did you go into the store? I did. So what was your, were you like sensory overload? Because it's very colorful in there. There's a lot of product.

Yes, I want, yes, it was a lot. I like really didn't know what to do. I went to the one on Sunset Boulevard. And I talked to a very nice woman in line named Venus. And she was telling me all about, she had just bought a home and she was telling me about what the things she likes and things like that. And she kind of tried to clue me in on what to do.

But she seemed like a regular and she seemed lost because she told me I could go ahead of her because she was still looking at the menu. And so I, so I just, I had looked at the menu online beforehand and I, and I picked out a few things. And I don't know if I, I don't know if I did well. I'll say this, the things that were made there for me, I thought were actually weirdly weaker

than some of the prepackaged stuff I got. So I got myself for the, for why is that? I can go smoothie areas. Is this what you want? Smoothie? Yeah, smoothie juices. I'm starting that. I got myself, I got myself a pink power smoothie.

Okay. You know, I love pink. And so that's right. And, and, and for all the honeys, I got the pink power, almond milk, strawberries, frozen banana. That's, that's the smoothie, kind of basic. And it was a little too icy. It didn't really, I was expecting better.

It was, it was a little icy. It was, it didn't have a ton of flavor to it, which, you know, look, it's only a couple of ingredients. It's not going to be the, you know, the, the, the most. Well, they famously don't add sugar. So there's no added sugar to anything they do. Yeah, that could be it. Which I like.

Yeah. I mean, that is a good thing. There's, there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with that. So you're getting, you're getting the, the, the kind of the, the, the, the most healthy version of it, the freshest, healthy version, healthiest version of it, but it was a little lockdown. Here's what I'll say though. I got myself also a happy juice, which 100% fruit and vegetable juice.

Mine had no animal byproducts, wags. And so that's pineapple, pear, ginger, and mint. And I just drank that during the show this morning. Well, well, well, well, while we, while we were chatting away. And it's good. It's good. I've really liked it. It's, it's, it's like a, it's a little bit more subtle there,

but you, the ginger isn't too strong. The, the, it just, it all, it all plays really well. It was, it was a really good juice. And that's all in my juice department. So I have to stop talking now. I will say in that on the juice front, thank you, Mitch, for abiding by the rules, on the juice front, does my shot count? Should I talk about my shot or not?

Yeah, talk about your shot real quick. No, go for it again. Let's hear about your shot. I got the immune plus shot, which is, which like we said, it comes in a syringe, which look, it's almost a little too much, right? Is this too much? I would call it ungepochka. Yes. It's, it's, it's a little too, I mean, again,

it's part of their marketing at being in a syringe form factor, but there's no real need. Lemon, ginger, water, turmeric, turmeric, turmeric. There you go. Cayenne and salt. We're going to get a turmeric. There you go, buddy. A turmeric, turmeric, turmeric.

Well, I always say turmeric, but I didn't, you have to say turmeric. Like there's an R there, right? Turmeric, there's an R there, yeah. Turmeric. Anyways, the other thing about this, I will say is that it has the little, uh, code on it. What are those codes called? QVC, QR code.

QR code. QR code. I was going to say QVC code. That's not right. I'm sure they use it though, but, but, uh, so I was just like taking a picture of this for the show and then it popped up like the, you know, the menu popped up on my, I think it gave information about this thing on there.

The shot was good too. It wasn't, a lot of these times when you get these, uh, these immunity, you know, the shots, not usually in a syringe, but when you do this, I feel like the, the, it's just like super gingery and like, and the, and it can be really spicy. And this was a nice level to it too. So my juice experiences outside of the smoothie were good. They were, they, they, they were good.

So wives, go ahead, go on with what I'm saying. I got one juice as well. And that, I, in addition to my smoothie, and that was the green number two that, that Jackie Menston mentioned, uh, the Jackster. Uh, this one is, is apples, cucumber, celery, kale, romaine, spinach, parsley, and lemon. Sounds very healthy. It, it, you know what?

Yeah. It, it sounds healthy and I, it's described as green and delicious. And I would say, I agree. Like I specifically saved this for, I like, I had this and I was like, I could drink this tonight or I'm probably going to be hung over tomorrow. So I'll just drink this in the morning. Um, and, uh, and I was hung over and I had in the morning and I felt great. Like it was just, it was like such, it was just such pure nutrition that I had.

And it also tasted, uh, it, it, I don't know. This was the one where I was just like, I think I would just get this again. I think if I was by a creation, I would just pop in and get the green number two and, and, and drink a juice and feel like I was doing something good for myself, whether or not I was. Cause it was also pleasant to drink and it wasn't overly sweet. I don't know. I liked it quite a bit.

Uh, uh, Jackie, what did you do on the, the, the liquid nutrition front? So I went fucking ham. I took this as an opportunity to really expand my horizons, get things I've always wanted to get, but were perhaps being too cheap. So I spent $67 on five items. Wow. Jackie, that's around what I, I think it's almost maybe exactly what I spent to is like 63, maybe 63, but I thought it was 67 for the same deal.

I think five items total. Yeah, I, I exclaimed it. I, I didn't do, but, you know, but I didn't do much better than, than either of you. Cause I got six items and I spent over $50. I think it's like $54. This place is insanely priced and as Mitch was just discussing at the top of the show, Hollywood Boulevard is, there are people living on

the side of the street in the city. So I just want to say, I acknowledge that we're assholes, that anyone that shops at this movie places an asshole in a certain regard, because the discrepancy in this town of the, of the money is very silly. So this place is expensive. It's a treat to go there for me. It's a treat. So because this is dough boys and this is the A game, I said,

I'm going to try some different items and really this is a tax write off. Let's be honest. I'm going there, you know? So I, as I said, the, the juice, the, the jizz of Zeus is the coconut water. So I decided to try de stress, which is the coconut water, but mixed with coconut water, apple and strawberry juice. And it's this beautiful pink color. So I had to get it.

Oh, look at that. Yeah. It was calling me. I mean, this is, this is my favorite color in the world. This pink right here. Yes. So I had to get it. I had to get it.

It tasted like candy. It was very, very sweet. Jackie, that looks, and it does question my, my thing about this place of, it looks like Pepto Bismol. Yeah. Yeah. A little, it wasn't as milky in person. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. It definitely didn't have the same texture as Pepto. It was, it was, it was juicier. It was juicier. It was juicier. Okay, okay. But it was really good.

It was very sweet. I wasn't expecting that. I guess the apple, there was a tartness. It tasted like strawberry sweet tarts, like pink sweet tarts. So it was definitely very sweet. I was expecting it to be a little more mild than like the coconut water, but it wasn't. I might be back at creation. I want, that sounds fair.

I mean, that's up my alley. It was, it was very refreshing and good. I loved it. And then I got a couple of other smoothies. Are we going to go smoothies right now or do we want to stick with the juices? What the fuck is Weigert doing is what I was wondering. Let's get into smoothies. Mitch, I was, I was trying to savoury.

Oh, I had some other items I was going to taste, but they're crinkly. It was crinkly. So I muted my microphone. And while I was doing that, I was like, you know, just trying to, so I don't have the plastic sounds going for people with me. Guess what? Why? Because I tried some crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. Told you on it. Yeah, needlessly. No one would have known. You two just don't give each other a break ever, do you? No, we don't. It's called teamwork, Mitch.

We got to get back in season one mode. Yeah. How do I say this? We don't like each other. Like each other. Welcome back to Doe Boys. I'm here with my good friend, Mike Mitchell. Why, it's so cool to work with such a cool, funny guy like you.

Oh my God. Well, I just, it's so cool to collaborate with you because I thought I've been a fan of yours for so long. So it's cool to have something to work on together. Yeah, kind of weird. Even the thing in the first episode, I think I maybe started a turn in the first episode. So, let's talk some movies.

Also, we should also, we should keep those episodes. We should, Emma, delete all the backlog. We need to get rid of all those episodes. Jackster, let's talk some movies. Yeah. Okay, so I wanted to get a fresh made one and a one in the bottle because I wanted both experiences. That's a good call.

Creation has an option. I should have done that. Yeah. When you walk into creation, they have a beautiful display, a refrigerator case with all of the juices and smoothies that are pre-made in the beautiful glass jars. Or you can go up to the counter and get something off of their fresh menu and they will make it for you there.

So I wanted to have both. So I got something I've never gotten before called the Blue Box Boost. It is a collaboration with Breakfast at Tiffany's, which- Oh my God. You know what? I don't know, but- How do you make that collaboration at this point?

Is that so- The film? It says Blue Boost Breakfast at Tiffany's inspired by a collaboration with Tiffany and Co. Oh, okay. Oh, The Jeweler. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, not the film.

And I said, what about creation in Pasadena? Doesn't quite- You said, I think I remember the drink. And as I recall, I think we all kind of liked it. Well, I say, well, that's a five-fork restaurant. I'm not giving my fork score. I'm just saying that's how the song would go. That was really beautiful.

That was great. What was the name of that band? Deep Blue Something, which ties into my drink. Wow. How about that? Blue Boost. I will also just say that a few minutes before the show started, I went into Ben's office and I said,

hey, where's my creation jar? I need to show it for Del Boy. So he goes, oh, I threw it in the trash. And I was pretty rude. I was like, how dare you? He recycled it. I was like, I need that for Del Boy's. And right before we started recording,

he went and got it out of the trash for me and washed it. That's very nice. I know. But it was worth it because you need to see the color. Is this beautiful blue? It was like the pretty, their aesthetics are on point. Just in terms of you see things and you want to eat them or drink them because the colors are so nice.

So this was coconut milk, banana mango, flax seed, or flax meal, hulled hemp seeds, blue algae, alfalfa chlorophyll, MCT oil, which I had to Google because I didn't know what the fuck that was. And I was like, are they trying to give me CBD or something? Are they trying to get me high? I don't know. It's a, it's a, I don't remember what it is, but it's, it's vegan. Vanilla extract.

So this was not good. Oh, wow. I mean, you listing off the ingredients, I'm like, hmm, I don't know if I like much of this. It sounds algae, you know. Yeah, I, it just was, I didn't like the texture. It was, it sort of reminded me of yogurt that you left out too long and it got a little runny, like runny yogurt.

Sure. Oh my God. And, but I'm, I, it was, how much was this? 1350. And I was like, I'm going to drink it. Christ. I'm going to drink it. Because I don't want to waste.

1350. Yeah. Wait till you get to my other one. So I didn't like it, but I still love the place. I just think that, uh, this one wasn't good. There's hit or miss items as there are on any menu. And that's why it was smart that the two of you asked employees slash regular customers what to get.

I went rogue on purpose. I went rogue and this was not good. Yeah. So nobody get that. Who's looking for algae? Are there algae fans out there? Like, you know what I'm saying? People love the, I hate the seaweed taste.

I don't like seaweed snacks. I don't like seaweed taste. It's not for me. The jacks are, I am right there with you. I don't, hmm. People who eat, it's wags. I know you do this. You like the fucking, the seaweed, the fucking seaweed.

I like seaweed. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good for you. Well, we're talking, we're also talking, you know, sushi earlier. I mean, I have a very active with the sushi roll. You'll get like a, you know. Yeah.

But it's like a little, you know, it works for me in that scenario. It's like a, it works with all the other, the mix works for me. Sure. Yeah. So it's just contextual for you. I will say.

I just don't like the dry seaweed leaves. I hate it. I don't mind it. But I get it. I will say as far as items to stick away from, to stay away from. One of the ones I got was the spicy buffalo cauliflower. Now I like buffalo cauliflower.

And it's, it's been done well at a number of places. In fact, CPK, I may have mentioned on the show before, has a great buffalo cauliflower app. This one was just like, and first off, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's something you have to reheat on your own. But the, it just did, it was so bland. And the texture was just like, you know, especially with something you have to reheat,

unless you have like a, like an air fryer or a, or a toaster oven that you're going to pop it into. It's just not going to get properly crunchy. So, you know, it's, it's, so it doesn't have that, that, that, that, that buffalo wing texture that you want. It didn't really have much of a, much heat to it. You know, I'm something of a heat seeker and it just was not particularly spicy.

And then the, the, the sort of vegan ranch that they had with it was just so inert and flavorless. It honestly was closer to like margarine than any sort of ranch dressing. It was so under season. I thought that was a real real letdown. I was pretty disappointed. So, Wigs.

Yes. I got the Buffalo cauliflower wrap. Oh. Wow. That's right. How did it go? Oh, I know, I can't, I can't improvise or, I'm not on today.

I can't, I'm not on today. I can't improvise a, I can't do it. Oh, spicy, spicy little plant. Oh, fuck. See, I can't even rhyme plant. Rant. Oh, spicy, spicy little plant. Listen to my wrapping rant.

Good. Very good. The spicy, I was going to try to fit my review into this, but I'm not, I'm going to, I'm going to just quit while I'm ahead. Sure. Quit, quit, quit, just, I'm just going to quit. I liked the, I liked the Buffalo cauliflower wrap. Yeah.

I thought it was a wrap. It was kind of tasty. Did you have that? Did you have the nasty ranch sauce with it? Oh, did I? There it is. Oh, wow. Dipped into that vegan, why is that?

It does look like butter. Wow. Yeah. I would, I would say that in the, in the context of a, with the wrap, it just kind of blended the flavors a little bit. You know what I mean? Like, like, like, I wasn't, I wasn't really tasting the, the ranch too much. It just kind of, it just felt like a thing to kind of cool down

the spiciness of the cauliflower, which was light already. Like you said, but I thought it was going to be so much worse that I was kind of like, oh, this isn't too bad. I didn't heat mine up. It didn't tell me to heat it up. But I just, I ate it cold. But I thought it was pretty good. I was, I was surprised that I was like, oh, if I grab this for lunch,

I'd be, I'd be happy enough with it. Now I should have gotten their wraps. Their wraps looked, looked yummy. Jackie, did you do anything on the food front? I did. So each creation has its own thing going on. And in Pasadena, the store I went to, and by the way, I want to do a redo. So for whoever, whoever does do the drop, use this one.

And I said, what about creation organic? There, that'll be better. Because I said, I said creation in Pasadena. We don't need to just specifically shout out that store, you know? So use that one. Sure. So the creation in Pasadena where I went, their thing is they have an avocado toast bar. So you have three or four different options and they make it fresh for you there.

They also have all of the deli items we've, we've been discussing. I did not get it though, because I am an avocado toast maker and I make the best avocado toast in existence as far as I'm concerned. So I wasn't going to try their, their crappy avocado toast. And the Beverly Hills creation, they make all the shit we're talking about fresh in front of you and it's so much better. It's just really good when they make it right there. Right.

I got a holy hummus wrap and it was disgusting. Oh my God. And I've gotten them in Beverly Hills before and they were good. So I was extremely disappointed. Basically it was the wrap with spring mix, which I hate spring mix spring mix. First of all, what season are we in honey? Oh, we're in autumn. Okay, you're at a season, bitch.

You're at a season, bitch. So the spring mix can walk itself back away. You can hibernate till motherfucking April. Okay. You're no longer wanted here. Spring mix bland hummus wrapped up in a damn wrap. That's all, that's all that was in it. Damn.

I was very disappointed. I didn't even finish it. Oh no, you know what it was wrapped in? It was wrapped in a collared leaf, which was bitter and not, not exciting for me. I was really not a fan and it comes with a dip sauce, this orangey dip sauce. Again, I've had it in Beverly Hills. It was good. Not good.

I was very disappointed in this wrap. Damn. Blunt bummer. Yeah. Yeah. I will say that it seems like their more lunchier items are maybe, unless you're at a location that makes them fresh. And again, the Merida Del Rey one didn't seem to make anything fresh.

So I think it vastly varies on the footprint and the staffing of the individual creation locations. But I got a breakfasty thing. I got the overnight oats. And I thought the overnight oats were great. I really liked them. And they came with a, they came on a glass, you know, again, one of those substantial glass jars that you can take in there for a deposit. And they, it had like a separate little container for the almonds and the berries.

So that when you, when you were, when it was time to eat, you could just combine them. Oh, so it wouldn't get soggy. Wouldn't get soggy. No. And I thought it was great. I thought it was a great proportion of berries and almonds to oats. I thought the oats were good quality. I thought it was, it was nutritious and, and yummy.

And filled me up for just a little jar of food. I was like, this, this is, this kind of works as a breakfast and lunch. It was a substantial meal. I thought that was great. And I was like, this is a thing I'd get again, just to have this. If I, in case they needed a quick bite and a pinch. I thought that was good. And then the two items I just tasted now,

I got the, the German chocolate cookie, which was, which is a gluten-free with coconut pecan filling, a guilt-free treat, it says. So it's kind of a sandwich cookie. I'll hold it up. This is a super crumbly and it's kind of dry, but it's, it's like kind of like a chocolate, you know, chocolatey chip sandwich cookie with coconut cream in between. I thought that was delightful, just, just a little on the dry and crumbly side. That might be because I got it a couple of days ago.

And the other thing I got was, they have a lot of dried fruits there. I got some dried strawberries, which I never, I never get. Yeah. I got them too. I love these. I think they're so, they're so good. I think it's just like, oh, I have, I always have fresh strawberries. I never have dried strawberries, but these are a great little snack.

And they're not overly sweet. I've been enjoying mine as well. I will say they were $7.95. Super expensive. But on the organic side, that's pretty standard. If you went to Whole Foods, that's probably what they would cost as well. But again, I was kind of going wild and trying stuff I've never tried before, and I wanted to get them and I've been really enjoying them.

Yeah, they're really good. And like you were saying, no sugar added is very prominent on the packaging. It's, in fact, on mine, it says no sugar added. You are sweet enough. How about that? Well, well, I'm a loser who didn't get one of these things, I guess, but I did get myself a bowl. An amaze bowl?

I got an amaze bowl and like a fool, I went up to the front and I said, can I get an amaze bowl? And they were like, yeah, which one? And I was like, oh, and so I got the Amazon bowl, which let me read you the Amazon bowl description right here. Sounds very exotic. Yeah. Yes, let's see.

Hold on, I gotta look up creation again. God damn it. Mitch. Hold on. This is riveting radio. Don't yell at me. Wait, so breakfast at Tiffany's was, that was made with, what was the wording on that? Blue boost.

You're getting sidetracked. What do you mean, like the ingredients? Yeah. You're just trying to get me to fill your time. I'm not your monkey. I'm not your warm-up act. All right, here I am. I'm here now.

It was acai, is that how you say it? I see acai juice, banana, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, almond butter. That was the base. Wow. And then it's topped with gluten-free granola, apple, strawberry, banana, bee pollen and raw honey. And it's made with, oh, I forgot. Look, I'm having a bad day today.

I forgot the guy who runs Amazon. Jeff Bezos? I was trying to say it was made with by Jeff Bezos. Bezos, oh. I thought you were going to say it was made with Bezos, come. Because we're doing all the cum stuff early. God damn it. I'm falling apart over here today, okay?

You're doing great. Yeah, don't go hard on yourself. No, I'm not doing great. Look. You're doing really good, Mitch. See, no, I know we're figuring out this podcasting thing, but the two of us together. How have I not got better since then? I've been bad since day one.

You're great. People love you. I forget stuff. Look, here's the bowl. The bowl looks nice. Oh, yeah. The bowl looks nice. It looks like a nice bowl.

And they made that fresh for you. That wasn't just sitting in a container on the side. They made that fresh for me. It was, it was, it was, it was fresh. It was fresh as hell. But the base wasn't great. It was the same thing as the smoothie. It was like kind of icy.

It was cold. It was a very cold, the base was like so cold. The, the, the acai juice kind of blend or whatever that it was just like kind of freezing. And I've had, I haven't had too many of these, of these, what are these bowls called? And they're like a, like breakfast. What the fuck are they called? Acai bowl? Yeah.

Acai bowls? Yeah. I, I've only had one other one before and it was at pressed juicery. And it was like one of the most delicious things I ever ate. I loved it. I mean, it was like also like 600 calories. It's like not, it packs a lot of calories in there, but there was almond butter drizzled on top of the, of the pressed juicery one.

And this one, like there's almond butter in the, in the, in the mix, but it needed something else. Like it needed more granola and needed more, like it needed more almond butter. And just, it was just a lot of that kind of purple slop at the bottom that was cold and kind of, and not good enough flavor for me. The stuff on top was fantastic. Also, everyone who worked there was great. Like they're like a, the woman I talked to at the counter was, was fantastic and was helpful and was very nice. And, and, but the man, the, that the slop, the sloppy bottom, I'm a, I was a sloppy bottom boy

wise because that sloppy bottom was, it was just not, it wasn't, it just wasn't working for me. The top was great. I am a bowl of constant sorrow. Too bad. I don't know any other verse to the, to the sloppy bottom boy song. Yeah, me neither. I know that whole song. Do you really?

Yeah. My show choir did it in high school. Wow. Bullshit. I call you on it. I don't think you know the whole thing. Show choir is like your, your, your singing, but there's also like movements associated with it. The Jackson just stared me down for that comment, by the way.

I would do the whole song, but I don't, I don't think that would be very fun for your audience. It actually would be. We all know I'm a really good singer, but show choir is for us, it was a group of singers, but also members of a band. So we would do the songs live with a band. Oh, that's cool. I should have done choir in high school. Yeah.

You have a nice voice. I would have enchanted my entire school at that. No one really sings like that. Beautiful. That was really beautiful. It's an original composition. So wait, what did you say it was sloppy bottom boy? It was a sloppy, sloppy bottom bowl.

Yeah. It was a sloppy, I was a sloppy bottom boy while eating it because it was just slop, the purple slop. Yes. It looks like, you know what? It was like grimace come. How's that? Why?

Yeah, he's back. Yeah. That improv is kicking in. I've got an improv show in just a week or so and I. Do you really? Rusty. Yeah. Playhouse masterpieces.

Wow. You doing it live? Yep. How fun. Mm-hmm. We will not be there, but have a good show. Yeah, have a good show. No, you guys should be there to support me.

This is, in the comedy world, this is what happens. Friends come out and support each other. Yes. It's jail. That is true, but we still won't be there. We live too far. Okay, I would like to tell y'all about my $20 smoothie. Please, $20 smoothie?

Yeah, and here's what's even crazier. Jackster, this place sucks. It's insane. And every time I've been in there, I'm like, who the fuck would ever pay for this? But guess what? I was like, this is dope, boys. I have to do this.

It's research and development for my art. That's true. So I bought it. They're called Transform Smoothies. They are $20 and that's just for the base. If you want to add your shed deer antler shavings or your organic bee, cervix, cream, or whatever, it's going to add even more to that.

But I just did the base and I got the radiance smoothie. And I'm going to tell you everything that was in it. It's long, but I'll talk fast. Pineapple, cucumber, romaine, parsley, spinach, mint, turmeric, coconut milk, aloe vera, chlorophyll, chia seeds, spirulina, vital greens, chlorella, dulce leaf, flax seed, hemp, horsetail, herb, kelp, maca, matcha, mesquite, probiotics, wheatgrass.

That's a lot. And I don't even know what half of them are. Does anyone know what horsetail herb is? No. No. Sounds like fucking reefer. Oh yeah, bro. Maybe it was.

Anyway. And by the way, we're narks. Yeah. This smoothie was not good. I did not enjoy it. It wasn't good? No. Oh my god.

Hold on a second. You love this place. You got a $20 smoothie you didn't like and you got a $13 juice you didn't like. Yes. I am aware. I am aware of the irony. It was not a good experience.

I gave it to Ben. He did like it. My issue was the mint was really empowering. So every sip was just mint, a minty, herbaceous note that I was just not really digging. I wasn't in the mood for. I like the healthy element of their food. I like that there isn't a sugar taste that's not added.

I like sort of those restorative meals. That's just the herbaceousness. Is that a word herbaceousness? Was too potent. It was too potent for me. Wow. And I was so depressed when I got everything I was trying. I was like, this is so bad.

Why is this so bad? I was so depressed. Yeah. This is your choice. You wanted this. You know what? Russian roulette, baby. You don't know what you're getting at the juice bar.

It is true. It is a real dice roll. I would say that probably five out of six, four, five out of six of the things I got I liked, but the ones I didn't like, I really didn't like. Yeah, yeah. Which is something of an indictment in this place. By the way, I looked up the horsetail herb and it is a living fossil.

It dates from the Jurassic period. What? And it's the only living genus in a family of vascular plants, as I'm reading this from a Wikipedia, that reproduced by spores rather than seeds. So it's like a hundred million-year-old plant that is still alive. So there you go. Wow. Yeah.

Damn. Maybe that's what I was tasting. Dominated the understory of late Paleozoic forests. Paleozoic forests. Jackie, you were too busy drinking the juice where you probably should have asked why they made the juice. It's true. Yeah.

Okay, I have a question. Last time I was here, last time I was here, I did Menchie's yogurt, and I asked y'all what music was playing while you were in the store. Did you happen to check if was there anything playing at creation? Do you remember? I honestly don't remember hearing any. Yeah, I wasn't no music. There wasn't any music, yeah.

How about you? Well, when I walked in, I could not believe what was playing. I think y'all know that I'm a pop-punk princess. The Doe Boyz theme? Okay. On loop. It was just the Doe Boyz theme on loop. I am a pop-punk princess, and when I came into the store,

a deep fallout boy cut was playing. Wow. And I couldn't believe it. The serotonin started rising in my body, and I started singing along with all my might to where people were turning around and watching me, but I was too excited to stop. Wow.

And then I went up to the counter and I said, who's playlist is this? And she said, oh, it's mine. And I said, Infinity on High is one of my favorite CDs of all time, and I don't think I've ever heard this song out in the wild playing. And she's like, yeah, it's good. Like, she downplayed it. She goes, I saw you rockin' over there.

I saw you rockin' over there. I was like, yeah, it's really good. Then after that, they started playing Panic of the Disco, and I was like, this is my place. Like, that's why I was so pumped about my menu items. I said, this was a sign, and it was a beautiful time. And I asked her, how do y'all choose the music? She said, there's a playlist we're all supposed to play

across all creations, but if you don't got no cuss words, this is her words, if they ain't got no cuss words, you can play whatever you want. So she made her own playlist for the store. Fun fact. Oh, wow. I had no music. And this is the Pasadena location. This is the Pasadena location.

If y'all want to rock out to some pop punk and the mid aughts, head on over to the Dina, baby. Mine was music-less, and I didn't know there was a living fossil I could eat. There's a lot to this store that I just didn't know. Yes. And maybe, you know what? You should have maybe been our guide, the jackster during this experience, because I don't know how I feel about this place.

Well, I'll be honest, I didn't do a very good job either. You think you know somebody, you know? I would not have been much help to you. I decided to go off of my regular items and try new shit. That was my first mistake. Yeah. It's a disorienting experience for a novice customer, and apparently even for an experienced one. So, you know, it's a little fraught trying to figure out what works at creation,

but you may find something that works very well for you. But, hey, we should get to our final thoughts on this chain. So, Jackie, a refresher on how this works, we'll each go around, give a closing argument, if you will, and then give it a score from zero to five forks, based on this experience and any previous experiences. You are a guest. Jackster will begin with you. Okay. There is something about this place that I realized

while I went in to do my research for this episode that I don't like, and that is their toxic diet culture. I was unaware that this place touted themselves as a cleansing place. They have a lot of stuff up that says, like, bikini body cleanse and things like that. I've never noticed that before, and that really rubbed me the wrong way, because just to remind everybody, everybody is a bikini body, and for them to say, I'm looking right at it, it says bikini, slim master drinks.

So, this place perpetuates toxic diet culture, which I did not know and I do not like. So, they're automatically going to have a fork taken off just for that. Wow. I love it. Because we don't like that. We like body positive. Everyone's body is a bikini body. Everybody's body is a beach body. So, don't be touting that slim down, juice, cleansing crap with me.

It doesn't fly with the jackster, and I'm not a fan. So, that's number one. I'm not a fan of that. Now, in terms of the price, no, it's just very expensive. This to me is a treat. This is a place I go when I want to treat, because I treat myself because it is expensive. The items that I like, I'm telling you that coconut water alone is worth the $9 to me. That's where I'm at in my life.

All in all, hit or miss menu, friendly staff. I love the kooky aesthetic of the astroturf on the ground. We didn't even get into that. They all have a very, they all have their own little vibe going, the creation. I love their, so the branding, other than the diet culture is cute. Hit or miss menu, some of the items are incredible. Friendly staff, good music. I'm going to give it three forks. Three forks.

Three forks. Right down the middle. Very fair score. They would have gotten a four if it wasn't for that skinny bikini sign. I'm out. Wow. I'm out. I will say, I noticed that too, but there was a part of me when I saw,

like, they have like, cleanse, lose five pounds in five days. I was like, I should do that. I was doing the same thing. Stack a few of these. Be sitting pretty. All right, Mr. Slice, what do you think? Tongue tied and twisted, just an earthbound misfit. I, that's what the drop, that's what the drop was.

That song is learning to fly wise. And that's why I felt all episode. Tongue tied and twisted, an earthbound misfit. And you know what? I felt like even more of a misfit when I was in creation juice. I didn't know. I didn't know what the hell to do. I was really not in control.

I don't know what the fuck I was doing. I got the Buffalo cauliflower wrap because it was the closest thing. Here's the thing about this place too. Yes. I felt bad to order anything that seemed like it would be work for them to make. And I, because I think, because I got a smoothie and I was like, Oh, they got to make this smoothie and they got to make my amaze bowl. They make the, you know, they make that amaze bowl to order and the Amazon bowl.

And I'm like, like, I would have tried the, like, I would have tried to, I would have liked to try more things like the avocado toast or whatever. I would have, I would have, but I just feels like such a pain in the ass. And, and so I was kind of confused by like, what's the way to go? Do you get the jar of smoothies or are you supposed to get a fresh smoothie? Like, like, there's a lot of that going on where I don't know if I'm supposed to get the thing that's in the jar or I'm supposed to get a fresh thing. I don't know.

That's okay to say, right? Like, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do. You can do either, I guess. But I just, I just didn't know. I didn't want to be a pain in the ass to the people working there. The two things that I was the most excited about were let downs. That's that pink power smoothie, which was made to order and the staff was fantastic. But that smoothie just didn't hit like I wanted it to.

And like a banana smooth, like banana in a smoothie should have a lot of flavor too. And even if there is no sugar and strawberries, like you should get like a decent amount of flavor out of that. And it was kind of icy. And then like I said, the Amazon Bowl, the base was just kind of icy and very cold. Sounds like they have their freezer turned way up at the store you were at. It might be an issue. Mr. Freeze is in the back.

Fucking, there's, that sucked. There was just, it was just too cold. The shit was, and just too icy. You bailed on it. You were doing fine. No, look, it sucked. Commitment is half of it, you know. No, I'm over commitment stuff.

Mr. Freeze was in the back, fucking jizzing in the freezer. There we go. Maybe it was Mr. Freeze jizz that was in my drink, my smoothie and my fucking acai bowl. But look, the Jackster likes it and we love the Jackster. So in my mind, I was like, there's got to be bright spots here. This is after I have the two first things. And there were. And you know what?

I found out two of them this morning because I did like that Buffalo cauliflower wrap. Nick, I know they had a bad experience with the Buffalo cauliflower, but I was like, oh, I can see a world where I get a different wrap and it's good. They do have meat there, right? There are like some wraps that have meat in them. So, and then that made me be like, I should have gotten an avocado toast. I wonder how the avocado toast would taste. I know you're the avocado toast queen Jackster.

So you've got to come over and I'll make y'all a fresh one. It'll be so good. I would love for. Yeah, that rules. You're going to, you're going to regret that offer. Just stay away from Chooch. I don't want you to get diarrhea again. I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me with Chooch.

I didn't know what, I didn't know what it was. Yeah. It wasn't it was a for Chooch. Believe it, Emma. It was what? You know, you said y'all. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Um, what's, what's, what's that? What's not sound? What's, what's the other one that you can get? Not Salmonella, but what's the other one? Botulism. Never mind. Um, hold on. There's a, there's a foodborne illness.

I'm not thinking. I got Salmonella once and I just kept throwing up. It was like, throw, and I got it from my iguana, my pedaglana growing up. Wow. How did that happen? I don't remember. I think he like bit my dad or something. Oh man.

Mitch, are you thinking of E. coli? E. coli. Thank you, Emma. Thank you, Emma. That's what the doctor, they said there was a chance I could have E. coli. Oh my gosh. Wow. So thanks a lot, Chooch.

My dog did not give you E. coli, you monster. She's five pounds. How dare you? Chooch's tongue. Did you lick her asshole? I mean, how did you got E. coli from my dog? Look, I had my mouth, I had my mouth open and whatever got in there. I don't know, but Chooch's tongue definitely got in there.

Have some boundaries, okay? I don't let my dog lick my mouth and we're best friends for 12 years. Look, it's going to be, it's going to play. It's going to be gold when you see the video. I've seen some footage. I've seen some footage. Okay, it was fun and Chooch was, Chooch is a saint and she's a great dog and I would, I would never, I love Chooch.

I'm not being, I'm not going to be mean to Chooch anymore. But this, my two, and you know what? The Jackster, Chooch's loving mom was 100% right in that the juices were good. This bottled juice, this happy juice I had this morning, it was good. And this, and this, the Mune Plus shot, one of the better immunity, like ginger, immunity, turmeric, cayenne shots I've had. It just, it was, it was subtle, but it does the job and it was, it was good. I don't like the packaging still.

I think this seems maybe wasteful too for, for a juice place. Like it feels like this will probably just get tossed in the trash. The syringe you're holding up. Yeah, I don't know if this can be recycled. But you can reuse it like I said. That's true. That's true. Um, but wow, I'm feeding Wally and Irma milk.

You know what I mean? Like what am I going to do? That's your own personal choice. Which maybe I, which maybe is what I'll use it for. Maybe I'll get another one and cut holes in my shirt in, in breastfeed Wally and Irma. That's a possibility. Anyways, there were plus sides, but not enough for me. There's a lot that I have to figure out from this place.

Um, and, and I'm going to, uh, you know what? I'm going to do that on a follow-up. Is it, I like, I like, I think I like press juicery more and for, but I will say this, being in there, I was like, Oh, this is fascinating because this feels like, this feels like chain ready. This feels like it's trying to be a thing that's going to be nationwide. At least that was what I gathered from it when I was in the one on Sunset Boulevard. Like I felt like it was like, Oh, I feel like they're trying to do this.

And for the world, you know, to eat healthier and, and, you know, have, you know, have some of these things on hand and have these be a healthy option. That's a good thing. But the price point is going to come way, way, way down. And I know that's, you know, like organic fresh fruit and veggies are expensive. And everything's local. Everything comes from there. A farm very close by.

So it's farmed a table, baby. Which may be, you know, so not possible in some areas of the country, but it, to me, it felt like the, you know, besides press juicery, that also is a little bit like that. It felt like one of the more, this is going to go nationwide. This feels like a, like a chain, or is it about to be a chain? But I just don't, for me, I just, I didn't get it yet. I'm going, I'm going with three forks.

I'm with you, the, the jackster, three forks. It's a, it's, it's, it's, I gotta, I gotta explore it more. And I, and I, and I, and I think it has work to do too. But three forks, wigs. Yeah, I think both of your assessments are on point. Uh, to what Jackster brought up, it's interesting that on the about us section of the web page, there's, you know, like, like, first off, there's just a big, you know, long, few paragraphs about the founder and wellness and it's, it's, you know, it's history.

But then there's a very long legal notice, uh, that says, uh, if you purchase certain beverages and or dietary supplements from creation from November 23rd, 2013 to May 26th, 2020, you are part of a class action settlement. And then it's just all about, uh, falsely advertising the curative properties of certain supplements that they had there. So, you know, I think that speaks to like, some of it is just like wellness sort of bullshit. It's just like complete, like hoo-ha nonsense. But some of it is like, you know, tasty or tasty items that are nutritious and are going

to make you feel better. I just like, maybe don't buy into all of their, their marketing. Cause clearly there's some, some straight up just, just, you know, nonsense behind it. It's, it's very hit or miss. And it's, and at that price point, you know, that's a bigger issue for me. Like it's like, if you're going to be spending like over 10 bucks on a fucking beverage and it might just taste like shit, that sucks. That's a bummer.

And also it just like kind of the, the dichotomy of this place in terms of it both having stuff that's great and stuff that's, that's bad. It's like, there, there are things with a lot of plastic, you know, packaging, which like you were talking about Mitch, like that syringe or like some of the, the packaged items are like just like a lot of plastic. But then they're coexisting with like the bottled smoothies, the, the glass bottled smoothie and like my glass bottle, my glass jarred overnight oats, which seemed like they were very like, and you can go recycle the, the, the container at the store.

That seemed like that was very responsible. So it's like, it's kind of doing both things at once. And maybe that's because they're, they're trying to gear up to scale up to a, to a larger size, Mitch. I don't know. Maybe that could be part of why they're, they're doing this. I don't know. A part of me is like, there should be no plastic in this place, right? Like, that's what, yeah. 100%.

It feels like, and there's a abundance of plastic. Yes. Get rid of it. What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. It is very silly to be like, look at our glass jars. Don't look over there.

Don't look at the plastic over there. Just look at these. But I will say it did give me a bikini body. You already have one, honey. There you go. Now start breastfeeding your cats. Thank you. Um, I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead and say, I'm with the consensus.

I think this is a three, four experience. I would definitely come back here and I would definitely get a stick to juices or smoothies. And I would definitely stick to consulting the, the, the staff in terms of what's popular and what do you like? Because I think there are a lot of things that could, that could be pretty unpleasant to consume, but three, four, I think is a fair, fair score for creation organic. Oh, and I also just want to say that I looked on their Instagram and they have a story

archived of all the celebrities who have gone to creation, but they're very shady. There are ones, first of all, they post paparazzi photos, which is weird because these people are not endorsing your restaurant. They were taking a photo against their will. And then there's ones where a celebrity would insta story them like getting ready. And in the very corner of their kitchen, you'd see like the top of a creation bottle and they'd zoom in like Zafruder footage and like circle it like, check it out. Casey Musgraves is drinking our juice.

I'm like, stopping so weird. Like I found that a little off-putting as well. Just they're really obsessed with celebrities and celebrities going there and really focusing on that. And it felt gross. Yeah. Jack sir, here's the question. Are the dough boys a part of that?

Are the dough boys on the website as far as celebrity guests who have eaten there? No. Two forks. But you know what, if y'all went there or took a photo and snapped it, they probably would and they would be silly not to. Two forks. Are you really lowering it? Yeah.

You know what, I just over the course of this, I was like, why am I getting this three? I think it's because I have so much love for the jackster and chuch that I went three forks. Fuck this place. It's too expensive. It is too expensive. Too damn expensive. And why? It's like you just really hammered at home that thing of like, I paid fucking over $10

for this movie and it kind of sucks. And there's a maze bowl, it kind of sucks for fucking like $15. I paid $20 for a smoothie that sucked. Two forks, Jack sir. 20. 20 bucks. Two forks. Should we go to?

Do people ever change? We do. I mean, we changed within episodes. We changed it a week by week. We've retconned scores. We can go to two forks. It's tricky for me because that one juice was good. So I get why you like some of the items.

Yeah, I did like what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just a hit or, you know, listen, hit or miss menu items. It's pretty common among a place with such an extensive range of items. Look at Cheesecake Factory. I mean, there's 75 pages. Not everything's going to be an ace. I kind of give them a pass on that, but like you said, it's too expensive. You're going to spend $20 and it's not good.

Yeah. Is pressed juicery, is that not considered cool? That one, because I like pressed. It's not as cool anymore, in my opinion. It was cool a few years ago, but they make good product. OK. Yeah, not really on the Vanguard anymore, though. Right, like that place like this is a little bit more up and coming with it.

Yeah. OK. Despite the celeb creep shots. Well, there you go. I guess, well, are we sticking? Jackie, you sticking with three? I'm going to say with three. This is one of my, I love this place and the experience of going.

It's really wonderful. Just we got some shitty items and that such, but I really do like going here. I will say that like the Jackster, I did like most of what I got there, and I think I will go back to this place. And I think it's a kind of place where if you have the disposable income to burn on this kind of shit, it's a fun indulgence. So from that standpoint, I think it's I think this is a three fork to your restaurant. But hey, Mitch, that was our review of Creation Organic.

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That's the theme song for the family food, the Richard Carnera Family Feud theme. So here's how this will work. So whoever, yeah. You don't have any lyrics for that one? Because you sometimes add. Let's play the family food, family food. All right, good. Play the family food.

It's good. We're a Doughboys pod. We're a Doughboys pod. We're a Doughboys pod. Played family food. Richard Carnera theme. Wow. Talk about Master Improviser.

Yes, and it's not no but. So whoever gets the most correct in this category without collecting three strikes will win. I will keep score. And the category, as we were talking about Creation Organic, most appealing fruit juice flavors in the U.S. This was a 2019 survey taken by Statista and compiled by our owner associate producer, the Drop King Robert Persinger. Top seven answers are on the board. Now, I want to drill this down.

Keep in mind, these are the most appealing, not like biggest selling, not most popular, most appealing fruit juice flavors as ranked by consumers. That will help guide your thinking perhaps just a little bit. And I will also say there's maybe one or two on this list that will make you angry. Interesting. Oh, God. So, Mitch, actually, Jackie, you are a guest. Would you like to go first or second?

Yes, first. Okay. I get really competitive. Wait, that's not how this works. Wait, how does this one work? Now, I'm forgetting. I don't know. Oh, you buzz in, typically.

I think you buzz in. Okay, so just buzz in with your name. Okay, great. The Jackster. Yes. I buzzed. Is that right? Yeah.

Not yet. No, I think we already know the category. Here's how it works. Here's what I fucked up. I'm disoriented here. Mitch, I'm off like you today. We're both barely hanging on. The fuck?

Look, only I can say that. You can't say I'm off. Like you, I'm fucking up all over the place today. Making a real ass of myself into the microphone. So, the way I was supposed to do it is I'm supposed to say the category is most appealing. I just want to be funny. Is that you or me? That's both of us.

Let's be honest. That's all of us. I think the way you do it on the feud, Mitch, you watch this with your mom a lot. The family feud is that it will be, he'll say the category and then as soon as he says the category, people will buzz in, right? Yes. Yes. I should have held off on the category.

No, he says yes. Like the top five things, it's always like a little horny too. Yes. Like a top five. Top five jizz flavors at creation. And then someone will be like, dog jizz. And then they'll be like, I don't know about that. Good answer, good answer.

No, Steve Harvey makes fun of them. Steve is a lot of fun. Well, let's do it right the next time, but we've already said I could go first, so I'm going to go first. What do you think? My first answer is apple juice. Wait, I don't have the sound effect ready for this. Jesus.

I can just put it in later. What a mess. Okay, Emma will add this and later we'll pretend like we heard it. All right, and also do the sound effect for us too. Okay, here we go. Let's show me apple juice. Good answer, good answer. Ding.

Number one answer, apple juice. Jackie takes it. I know the people. I know the people. Apple juice is number one, huh? Number one, most appealing. All right, Mitch, what do you think? Well, I'm going to go with apple's cousin.

We all have it. We all know it. We all love it. Orange. Show me orange. Good answer, good answer. Ding. Orange, number two answer.

What number is it, Wikes? Number two. Oh, Siri popped up. Oh, fuck down. What's going to pop up again? Siri popped up while you were doing that, so I couldn't. We got to move Siri out of the range of the mic. My turn.

Go ahead, Jackie. I'm going to go with the bastard cousin of the orange, the grape. Wow. Show me grape juice. Good answer, good answer. Ding. Number four answer. All right, we have four answer, three are off the board, four are remaining.

Mitch, your turn. Most appealing fruit juice flavor in the U.S. It is a fruit, so I'm going to be mad if it's not on there, but it's not really appealing, but whatever. Oh, you know what? I'm going to go with my, why didn't I think of this first? I'm going to go with one of my favorite fruits of all, pineapple. Survey says.

Good answer, good answer. Ding. Pineapple, number five. Wow, it's exotic. We're fucking kicking ass here. Exotic, but appealing. Yes, you had no strikes yet. You each have two apiece.

There are three remaining. Jackie, what do you think? I'm going to go with a festive option. Everybody loves it. It also helps cure a UTI. We're going to go cranberry. Great, great choice. Show me cranberry.

Good answer, good answer. Ding. Number seven. Okay. I should have gotten that. Two remaining. Guys are knocking them out. The bogs of the cape.

I should have gotten that one. Yeah, that's true. Wigs. Well, you have an opportunity to get something else. Go ahead, Mitch. It's technically a fruit. It better be up on that board. Tomato.

Oh, shit. Show me tomato. Mitch, you get your first strike. That's trash. Not considered one of the most appealing fruit juice flavors in the US. I guess it's probably not appealing. According to this 2019 survey.

Yeah. Although it has appeal, but that's not the question. Is this survey dropking.com? Is that where it was taken? The polling firm is Statista. Statista. Statista. Yeah.

Okay. All right, Jackie. Mitch threw in a wild one. I'm going to throw in one that might be a wild one too. I'm going to say grapefruit. Show me grapefruit juice. Grapefruit not on the board. You each have a strike.

Okay. There are two remaining. Mitch, what do you think? Wigs, I'm going to pull for my extensive comedy background in training. And say nobody touch of the mango. Mango. I was going to say that.

Mango is my choice. When you're, it's like when you're learning the classics. Like if you're taking, you know, in English literature course and you have to read Beowulf. It's the same sort of principle. You got to learn about mango. Well, is mango on the board? Good answer.

Good answer. Ding. Good answer. Wow. Number six. You each have three, three correct and one strike a piece. And there is just one answer remaining. Not so great to go first this time, is it?

Jackster. Fuck. Let me, let me say this. This last one is a bit of a wild card. And I think there's a chance even with four bites of the apple, if you will, each have two strikes remaining that you still won't get this one. So if that, if that helps guide your thinking at all.

Okay. I'm going to go ahead Jackie. I'm going to go with watermelon juice. Show me watermelon. And it is not watermelon juice. Okay. I, I have another one ready. She's got one in the chamber.

Mitchie, what do you think? Jackster, that was a good answer. Good guess. It is delicious juice. Nobody can deny it. Good juice. Watermelon cocktail will do you right too. I'm going to go with positively pained expression on Mitch's face.

No, I got, I got, I'm going, I was, I was trying to think of my, my, I'm choosing nectarine. That's right. Why? Because I'm choosing nectarine. Like that song. He's choosing, he's choosing nectarine. Oh yeah.

What is it? Jackie, the Jackster is giving you two big thumbs down. What was that? A parody of? That ain't going to be it. I know a girl who. Yeah. Jackster, Jackster knows it.

Yeah. I still don't know it. All right. Show me nectarine juice. And nope, Mitch. You get your second strike. All right. You each have one more shot at it.

Oh, Jackster. Bye-bye. Bye-bye, Jackster. I'll see you about that. Okay. I know that they do bottle this juice. I've seen commercials. People love it.

I'm going to go with pomegranate juice. Damn. That's good. Pomegranate juice. He said it was wild. Let's see how wild they really are. It's a good answer, but is it a good answer? We're going to find out.

Show me pomegranate. I'm sorry, Jackie. You get your third strike. All right, Mitch. One more shot at it. Bye-bye, Jackster. We'll see about that. Wags, here we go.

Yes. Wags, wait. You're turning violet, violet. I'm going blueberries, wags. Blueberry juice. Blueberry juice. Jackster seems appalled. I'm repulsed.

I'm repulsed by that answer. It's an offbeat answer, but the truth itself is perhaps a little bit off the beaten path. Let's go ahead and see if it's on there. Show me blueberry kiwi. Blueberry is not on there. However, you were fairly close. The number three answer.

Most appealing fruit juice flavor in the U.S. according to the survey. Strawberry juice. What? What? I agree with you. It's nonsense. You know what's crazy is that I almost said,

I love strawberry flavored stuff, and I almost said that at the beginning of the thing just because I was like, I like smoothie with strawberry in it. And then I just forgot about strawberry. As a juice though, it's so like unorthodox. Yeah. Who just drinks a strawberry juice?

Yeah. It's very strange. I've never even seen that. Maybe it's a regional thing. Maybe there's certain parts of the country where they're drinking strawberry juice all the time. Just shows that I was just fucking off my game. Yeah.

Thank God we had a funny guest. I'm trying to pick up the slack over here. I don't know. It's too much slack. When the bar is so low, it's hard. You got fucking slack for days. Pushing a wheelbarrow with fucking 500 pounds of dead weight in it.

Sorry, Jackie. Hey, just like a restaurant, we value your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. And today we have an email from Alex. Alex writes, while waiting in a rain-soaked parking lot for Tame Impala to play the Gorge Amphitheater. Mitch, have you been there? Gorge Amphitheater?

No, is that Seattle? I don't know. I was eating a chicken salad. Isn't that a whole thing about Ithaca is gorgeous? Right? Like there's gorgeous there? Yeah, there's gorgeous there, but it's not the Gorge Amphitheater. That's what I thought the connection was.

That there's a gorge there, and maybe there's a Gorge Amphitheater. I mean, it is. No, it's in Washington state. Okay. I thought you were just saying the Gorge Amphitheater, like gorgeous? Like, oh my God, the Gorge Amphitheater. Maybe that's it.

No, it's the Gorge. Dave Matthews plays it like the Gorge and stuff, but I've never been there. Okay. Was it because of gorging? Is that why they asked? The fuck? No, probably because of the Dave Matthews connection.

But what are they? Dave Matthews connection, okay. What do they ask me exactly? Well, waiting in a rain-soaked parking lot for Tame Impala to play the Gorge Amphitheater. Mitch, have you been here? I was eating a chicken salad sandwich. I don't know why that's directed at you.

I was eating a chicken salad sandwich when a giant chunk of chicken fell out of my sandwich. Down between the seats and instantly was lost among two weeks of road trip camping gear, dirty clothes, hiking boots, et cetera. Knowing that I couldn't leave the chicken there throughout the concert, I got out of my car, braved the rain, opened the back door

to unearth the chicken and popped it in my mouth. Would you do the same thing in my situation? If so or if not, where do you draw the line in regards to car floor foods and the 10-second rule? It took me longer than 10 seconds to find it. My husband and I never miss an app. He's a burger boy and I'm spoon nation for life. Sometimes, as you know, opposites do make great pairs.

Love, Alex. P.S., this is Charlie now, the husband. It was like 20 minutes before she sought out that chicken. Little more context. Another spouse emailing on behalf of their better half. How about that? We get a lot of groups. I will say that, I mean, yes, we've joked about this before,

but we have... Honey, will you email the Doughboys? Can you, I think they'll read it if it's from you. Can you email it from the Doughboys for me? Pathetic in many ways. I'll type a little P.S. But anyways, knowing it's 20 minutes, that's quite a long time to be...

It's a long duration, yeah. Yeah, it's a long time to be on the floor there. Look, as a man who made, during the dough-a-thon, I made a pizza with floor cheese, as people say. Even though that was briefly on the ground, under a spot, under the table, it was fine. And I also still shredded the cheese. It was fine.

It was floor cheese, whatever. Sure, it was floor cheese. If something falls on the floor of my car, it's kind of game over. Though I did get a car wash yesterday, and it's fucking... It looks fucking fantastic. The car's looking good.

My car had been sitting here for basically a full year without... It was just... It looks like shit. So I got a car wash yesterday. It's looking good. But even with the car wash, I don't know. The fuzzy mats, that's an issue. Like, the fact that it's like you're...

So directly, just like you're coming from outside, outside, and your feet are touching the mats of the car. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. There's another layer to it with car droppings, if it gets dropped in the car, it's just gone forever for me, usually. Well, so I'm thinking of it like hardwood floor versus carpet. Like, that's the main issue.

It's less that this is a surface that your feet are touching, and more that just like you're going to pick up all this fuzzies and detritus from being on a car, the floor of a car. I'm reminded of my missing baguette from our Panera episode, where I lost a mini baguette in the car and never found it. How could we forget that? Yeah. It's still in the car somewhere.

I mean, maybe, I don't know. Maybe it fell out. What I suspect is that it fell out of the car, is that it like rolled underneath the car, and I didn't, you know, I didn't find it for that reason. But yeah, I just, I don't know. I guess in Alex's- In that way, it's kind of like a fun escaped,

like an anthropomorphic food movie, where the baguette like escaped you, you know what I mean? Like you would have eaten it, if not. And that way, it's fun. And that way, it's fun. If you think of it like a CG movie. Our guest is falling asleep. This is the worst episode, as far as you and I,

as far as our work, Mitch, this is maybe the worst we've ever been. It's possible. I think we started coasting when we, I think we started, we get a pro-podcaster in here, we start coasting. And then, she has too much work to do. Jackson, we're gonna have you back.

Yeah, we'll have you back soon, Jackie. The episode was good. Also, I'll stand by this. The episode is very good. The episode is good. And also, I was good, but I was also bad. I was just gonna say, in Alex's defense, like, I think that if you're in the situation

where this is the one thing you can eat, you know, like you're trying to get some food in you before you're going to go to an event, and you know that your alternative is maybe gonna be like overpriced stadium food. And oftentimes, that's like, you know, just absolute trash and is gonna make you feel like shit. And you've got something that's somewhat nutritious.

I can kind of see in that circumstance, being like, you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna get this little bit of chicken salad and I'm just gonna dust off. Hold on a second, though. The fact that it's chicken salad, look, in Alex, your Spoon Nation, I love you. But the fact that it's chicken salad,

which is covered in mayo, is just makes it a little tougher for me. I mean, also, they probably, you know, Alex's car is probably much, you know, kept up much nicer. But if I drop like a chicken nugget on the floor or something, sure, I'd maybe grab it, you know, like something like that.

Yeah. That's, I just, in this instance, Alex, I'm not sure, okay? I just don't know. The car floor is just, is a big difference. Jackster, what do you think? I respect everyone's choices with their body, their food. But I will just say, I don't let my dog lick my mouth

and I don't eat food that hit the ground. That's a, that's a hard rule for me. I'm very weird about germs and food touching things. And if I accidentally drop something, it's gone for the most part. I was so sure that you let Chooch kiss you. That's why I was so just ready to have Chooch. No, I'm not disgusting.

No. No. I'm like, how strict are you? Are like, if you were... I, I promise to never make out with Chooch again, by the way. That's, that, I'm gonna, that's what I'm gonna say on the show today. I won't make out with Chooch ever again.

There you go. Unless I've, you know, unless I've had a few drinks. She's very innocent. How dare you? To the point where like, if you're, if something will just fall on the table, are you still, or someone will fall on like an, in your lap or something?

You're still gonna eat it? What table? A public table or my table at my home? I mean, if the answer is different, I'd want to know that. If it fell on a table in public, in a post-COVID America, I probably would not eat it. Wow, fair enough.

If it was at my home, yes. I'm pretty neurotic about germs and things. Right. And like I said, if it drops, it's out. As far as I'm concerned, it goes away. I get it. I mean, I'm different, but I get it. Yeah.

And I respect people that, that eat them off the ground, because. Sure. Food is a resource that is in short supply. Let's be honest. You know, we got to really preserve what we got. So I think it's, what's the word? Sustainable.

It's sustainable to eat the chicken off the floor of the car. Yeah, I don't love wasting food, but there are circumstances where I'm just like, ah, this is, this just looks, this just seems disgusting, and I don't want to get sick. You know, we were talking about foodborne illnesses earlier. This was a, this was a fact I read, not a fun fact, but it was that there's more fecal bacteria

on your, in the, in the basin of your kitchen sink than there is in the average toilet. Wow. So like people will be like, people will be like washing a carrot and they'll drop it in the sink and then like pick it up and just like eat it. And they'll be like, what?

That's the same as like dropping that in the bowl of your fucking toilet. Did somebody shit in my sink again? How? How did this happen? Look, sometimes if you're in the kitchen, I gotta go. I've shit in a couple sinks in my day. I won't lie to y'all.

Wow. Yeah. There have been some. I've never done it. There have been some in-out for 10 moments. And you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. Sure. If you have a question or comment

about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at dowboyspodcast at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830-GOTA. That's 830-463-6844. And to get the Doughboys double or weekly bonus episode, you can join the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash Doughboys. The Jackster, Jackie Johnson,

thank you so much. A long overdue return. We'll have you back sooner rather than later and always a delight to have you. Thank you for being such an amazing guest as always. What would you like to plug? Well, I would like to say thank you for having me. Shout out to all of the Doughboys listeners.

Y'all are so fun and great. And it's so lovely to see all of you, the three familiar faces. You know, maybe we can all get together in person at some point because I gotta do more crazy shit to Mitch's face. We gotta put a face mask on him or something. I need it. I need it.

But I would say we're all podcast fans here. Maybe check out Natch Butte, my comedy podcast about beauty and self-care. And I'm gonna make Mitch and Weigar come on at some point. So that should be exciting. So check that out. New episodes every Thursday, baby. Hell yeah.

That means when this episode drops, there'll be a new episode of Natch Butte you can check out. There you go. We're on the same day. So there you go. Stop listening and download Natch Butte instead. We should put that on the top of the episode. Yeah.

Yeah, we'll add a disclaimer. Thank you so much for being here, Jackie. And hey, that'll do it for this episode of Doughboys. Until next time, for Mr. Slice, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigar. Happy eating. See ya. Sweet, sticky white.