Doughboys - Lee's Sandwiches with Ify Nwadiwe

Episode Date: August 15, 2019

The 'boys are joined by Ify Nwadiwe (Nerdificent, Candy Dinner, Who Shot Ya?) to discuss their favorite fat food chains in high school and to review Lee's Sandwiches, a Vietnamese-American chain specializing in bánh mì sandwiches. Plus, a listener submitted edition of Cereal. Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 1862, the French established the colony of Cochin, China, spanning the southern third of what is now known as Vietnam, beginning roughly a century of the Vietnamese people being subjugated and exploited by a series of colonial masters. French rule expanded the entirety of the nation's territory by 1884, and it was the French who imposed upon the Vietnamese the Catholic religion, the use of the Latin alphabet for the Vietnamese language, and Western ingredients for their food, coffee, butter, and most significantly, bread. For much of French rule, bread imported at great cost from Europe was reserved for white

French elites, but after Vietnam won sovereignty in 1954, it became a food for all, leading to the birth of the slim sandwich known as the banh mi. A fusion dish from before the term fusion food existed, Vietnamese cooks developed their unique Euro-Asian hybrid hoagie, generally a baguette spread with mayonnaise and stuffed with pickled vegetables in either cold cuts or hot meat. The banh mi became a popular quick breakfast or lunch in Vietnam, and stands selling the sandwiches thrived, as did a larger culture of Vietnamese baking, both of savory breads and sweet pastries.

Not long after the French were forced out, Vietnam endured another period of colonialism, albeit the post-World War II version, Western intervention in the form of an ever-escalating U.S. occupation from about 1961 to 1975, known as the Resistance War against America within Vietnam, which resulted in an estimated 3 million deaths. In the aftermath, displaced Vietnamese began immigrating en masse to the U.S. And in 1982, brothers Chiu and Henry Le, Vietnamese immigrants who'd recently settled in San Jose, California, opened a catering company, which rapidly grew to a massive fleet employing 500 trucks.

The Leys used the profits to partner with their parents and opened a banh mi shop in San Jose, adding a second E to their name to make it more familiar to Westerners. But their food needed no simplification to be a hit, and their chain version of the banh mi spread like butter on a warm baguette throughout the West and Southwest, particularly in areas with large Vietnamese-American populations. Today, with over 60 stores in seven states, the chain thrives, serving sandwiches, pastries, and Vietnamese-style coffees, accurately bragging in its signage that it's the world's largest banh mi chain.

This week on Doe Boys, Leys Sandwiches. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McDonald's Mike Spoon-Mitchell. You know, I hate Mitch McConnell. I mean, yeah, for many reasons. He's not a good man. But mostly for the fact that he makes my name bad. Because people are like, I'm with Mitch or Team Mitch, and it means they're with this

guy who's enabling fascism. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking turtle. Little turtle fuck. I hate him because I love turtles. Yeah. It gets a negative association with great turtles like yurtle and Michelangelo.

Yurtle was your first choice? Yeah, yurtle's great. Yurtle the turtle was your first choice? What about that little fuck Franklin? People like Franklin the turtle. It sounds like you don't like Franklin. That little fuck Franklin. I forget what he's from.

Was it a cartoon? I don't know. Isn't Philbert, isn't the Brock Osmar in life? Philbert, there you go. That's another one. That's in right now. It's in. Of course, either Toko or Razor, whichever one of those was a snapping turtle.

I forget. I think it has to be Razor. I think it has to be Razor. Yeah. Toko was the wolf or whatever. Mm-hmm. That was a pointy moment in cinema as a kid. That was courtesy of Sam Weldon.

Why? Because you want a bebop in Rocksteady. You wanted Rocksteady and bebop. And then you finally got him in the new, the new niche turtle. So there you go. They made you wait a long time. Sam Weldon from New Haven sent that insult. And if you have a roast, you can use them as the pop show roastspoonman at gmail.com.

Nick. Yes. Something got delivered to me. Want me to just give it to you? It looks like. Is that what is it? What you're holding? Because it looks like what you're holding is a ball of yarn.

No, it's not the ball. OK. Mitch is stepping away from the microphone. He's walking. Is he just, he might just be leaving. This might be how Doughboyz ends. Oh, he's returned with what appears to be a skateboard deck that is a skateboard without the trucks and the wheels, just the wood part.

This came courtesy of the Jeffrey Epstein will. This is a Teen Choice 2019 skateboard. Wow. Epstein personally sent this over to me. Sent this over for you. This is for you. Well, you know, I never get to fly in his jet, but maybe I'll get to ride in his skateboard. There you go.

Thanks. Where did you get this? I told you. Where did you actually get this? Nick. I told you. All right. Jeffrey Epstein died and then this immediately was sent to you.

He was murdered. They called it a suicide. And then they, they were like, let's get this a Teen Choice skateboard to Mitchell right away. Did you, I told you I was going to see this, but like when like a loved one dies and you get like, you know, like mom on your shoulder, are you going to get one for Epstein on your body somewhere? No, I'm not going to get a tattoo commemorating this monster.

Did you kill him? Nick. Man, I wish. I wish I was going to pull that off. Um, I actually, I have a guest here too that that wants to just talk about this for a second. Do you mind? Yes. Well, you have a guest here.

Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. Hi, Nick. How are you doing? Oh, it's, it's former president Bill Clinton. That's right. Oh, well, you know, you knew Jeffrey Epstein well.

That's right. You, you flew on the Lolita Express over 20 times his personal plane that was stocked with underage prostitutes. Nick, I just want to say one thing. I shouldn't say prostitutes. They were sex slaves. They were, they were sex traffic. Okay.

Okay. All right. Potato, potato. Yeah. I just want to say one thing. Yes. I did not have murderous relations with that man. Wow.

You know, cause a lot of people immediately thought the Clintons, this might be another one in the Clinton death toll, but that's right. No, this, you're saying this one you, you're not responsible for. Do you know what I did, Nick? What? I slipped him and I pot filled with dope boys episodes the night before he killed himself. Wow. Which one do you think it was that did it?

I think I read Robin with Darcy Cardin. It was 30 seconds after he listened to, he was gone. He must have started with a Matt Koalic episode. Hey, Nick, I would never, I would never hurt him. I would never hurt Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, it seems like you guys were actually pretty close. I mean, Jeff, you're close. Do you think though there's, there's, I think there's any chance Hillary was behind this?

Hillary might have done it. Wow. You just sent her to jail. So she's spent years in public, decades in public defending you. You immediately threw your wife under the bus. I think it was Hillary. I really do. Wow.

Okay. Nick, why would I want to hurt Jeffrey Epstein? Just, just why? Well, I think I was pitching a new show with him. You were pitching a show with Jeffrey Epstein? Yeah, with my production company. What could you possibly be pitching with him? It's called the New Temptation Island.

Okay. I think I know what the twist is here. What? It's taking place on Jeffrey Epstein's private island. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. We're going to have fun together. Now he's gone.

Well, Mr. President, I think that if you are indeed involved in these crimes that you yourself should be punished and you yourself should hopefully someday see the inside of jail. I can't go on trial. I'm so sad. Because of, because Epstein's gone? Yeah. Well, I don't think that's, I hardly think that's a criminal defense.

Nobody will work. You know what might? Slick Willy kind of has gotten away with a lot. So maybe you'll be able to turn on the waterworks and a judge will let you off. Hey, one last thing. Monica was of legal age. Okay. All right.

No, that's, now you have me, what was suspicious about that because no one's advanced the opposite. Okay. Well, I got to go now. Okay. Bye. Hey, am I not going to use that skateboard? Yeah.

This one's all yours. All right. He's gone. Wow. He flew into the air like Mary Poppins. That's amazing. He just grabbed the skateboard and flew up in the air. He's making a beeline for Epstein's Island.

I've wasted our guest's time. I mean, Bill Clinton. We always do that. Yeah, that's on Clinton, but Clinton was also our esteemed guest, but hey, we have a really esteemed guest with us. I didn't do a drop. Should I do one? Oh, of course.

No, but should I do one? Yes, do a drop. Do a drop real quick, then we'll enter our guest. People are going to be mad if you don't do the drop. Okay. All right. All right. Here we go.

Ready? Yes. Here's the drop. Okay. This became a regular habit of mine. I was just a 40 all the time at $1.69. This became a regular habit of mine. I was just a 40 all the time.

69. Long outro here. Oh, fuck. Odd Coda. I'm hardly an encyclopedia of music knowledge, but I am aware that that Eddie Murphy song, which I think is something of a banger, that was produced by Rick James. Really? Yeah.

That's right. Yeah. He's in the music video as well. Hey, ladies and fellas of Doughboy Spoon Nation Burger Brigade, biz, biz. I've never submitted a drop before, but when Nick in the Del Taco 2 episode was telling the story about how it was a regular habit of mine to get a 40 all the time for $1.69, the Eddie Murphy and Rick James hit song, he tells us, party all the time popped in my head using that sentence.

So I had to whip this drop up real quick to get the idea out of my mind or else the nation would or else the notion would consume me, including MP3. All right. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyways, thanks for the laughs and wonderful content. Love the show. I appreciate everything all you do. Sincerely, Tyler Briggins.

That's great. From Coffeeville, Coffeeville, Kansas. Birthplace of the icy. Oh, how about that? Wow. Very exciting. Boy, Coffeeville is the birthplace of the icy. What's next?

Icyville, the birthplace of coffee. Coffee. Oh, holy shit. Mitch, our guest is from Nerdificent and the podcast Candy Dinner and who shot ya if you Wadiway is here. Hi, Eddie. How's it going? Oh man, I have so many things to say.

I think favorite moments is a giant skateboard that says Teen Choice Awards and Nick asking where it came from. I'm guessing Teen Choice Awards. Oh, you know, the Klin, I didn't know you were so close with Jepstein. That's what I've been calling them. Jeppy. I will say, I will send both of you $5 if just any of that is on the weekend update this weekend.

We're going to call up Will Sasso is going to scoot up next to Che and they're going to go at it. I love Will Sasso getting called in like they're calling you for SNL before, but you're an emergency on if he thank you so much for being here and through sitting all through all that nonsense. I want to ask you a very specific question because you have this podcast Candy Dinner with Matt Apodaca. Have you ever actually had a candy dinner?

We haven't had a candy dinner. It was like a nickname for us because we were the two youngest right people when we were on our Orange County improv team. I think coined by Lars Hansen, who he was. I was his TA senior year of high school. So like for the first like few months on the improv team, I kept calling them Mr. Hansen and everyone would laugh. I was like, what?

That's that's what I know you answer, but we we floated the idea of like what if we just did candy reviews and it just seemed daunting and dumb. It would have been a bad idea. So we have a food review centric podcast, obviously, and it's it's ruined us physically and mentally. Yeah, we're broken. Yeah. Yeah.

No, but it seems fun. But are you guy who enjoys sweet treats then? Oh, I love a good sweet treat. I love what are your go-tos in terms of candy? Oh man, I used to be a big Butterfinger boy. I was all about Butterfinger and then they have that. You and Bart Simpson. Yeah.

I mean, he kind of sold me. If that marketing worked, I was like, don't have a cow man. Let me put it in my mouth. You know, eat my shorts and this delicious chocolate bar. I got them all. Boy, people were worried about Bart Simpson being a bad influence because of back talking to his parents and cursing, but he was a real bad influence in terms of upping children's candy consumption.

Jesus. Thanks. I didn't know what you were going to say. Yeah. People don't know Nick Moonlights as a dentist. That's why he made me. That's his cross to bear. You can see all about it in the documentary, Dr. Giggles.

Oh man, but yeah, no, it's now I'm more like they have that Butterfinger like. Well, Higer gave me a dentist there. No, that was me genuinely furrowing to remember if Dr. Giggles was a dentist or a doctor. Dr. Giggles is a dentist. Doesn't he remember those movies, The Dentist, where it was Corbin Bernstein as a fucked dentist? Is Dr. Giggles a? Is he?

He might be a dentist. I don't know. Yeah, I hear Dr. Giggles and all I can think of is Patch Adams, you know, just his birthday, rest in peace. Yeah, that's right. Also, I found it was like a height beast like I like out of all those things I follow the place I did not expect to be like celebrating Robin Williams was height beast and like all the sneaker stuff because like I guess he used to wear a lot of bait.

Oh, so like people were people like Robin Williams, the height beast. He's like essentially Robin Williams and me would have been best butts because he played lots of tabletop games. He was real into Warhammer. Yeah. And he's a height beast like damn love Zelda. Yeah. Improv missed opportunity to do.

Did you never get to improvise with them at UCB? You ever saw him or anything like that? No, I heard everyone when he died, everyone was talking about how he would just pop up and I was like, where the fuck was I? Yeah, it was so surreal that it was like you'd be it'd be like Harold Knight and all of a sudden Jake Regal is doing a scene with Robin Williams. Hey, wow. I remember I there was a I only I saw him a couple times, but I only improvised with

them once. Yeah. And your old Harold team slash improv team member drew the fonts of Mars. Yeah, probably over ten years ago. Great. At least yeah. This is two thousand and eight or something. I wasn't born yet.

He came up and did like a jam, which is in the improv world. The people get together. They jam everyone. It's it's as dorky as it sounds. It's kind of a equivalent of like an open mic and stand up or just like anyone who comes can get on stage and then Robin Williams would just be there sometimes and he'd be there and then of course you do. But then drew the fonts of Marx.

I remember was on the back line and he was waving and I was like, okay, and I walked out and then he was like he saw me and he said like no and then sent me back, sent me a back wave and then pointed to Robin Williams who was next to me and brought him out and I was like fuck fucking suck. I mean he was right. Yeah. And I mean he was right to do it and then Robin Williams was very funny. Yeah.

Mitch, I would never do that to you. You wouldn't be at one of these jams in a billion years, but I still would never do that to you. If I'm curious because you're the you're the one iffy I've met in my life and I understand it's a it's a it's a nickname. It's short for what's your what's your full name? If you could. If you could.

What is your Starbucks cup name? Do people get iffy right? You've asked this at the most perfect time. Really? Yeah. So normally I just say iffy, but you know, I've been racking up points. I'm a gold card carrying Starbucks visitor. Very excited.

And but I use the app to pay and now instead of just asking me, I guess they figured out that you can just see the name on the app and they're like, do we just put the name on the app? And I was like, yeah. And she stopped for a beat and I was like, oh, is it iffy jacude on there? And she was like, yeah. And I was like, oh, well, it's iffy iffy for short. She does not do it.

She puts iffy jacude and I and I got to sit there and watch the barista lift the cup, stare, furrow her brow and just yell the name of the drink. And I was like, oh, you don't want to try and say it. And she was like, it's like, no. Just flat out. No. Nothing. I'm not going to say that.

If I had to, if you said your name was iffy, I think I would spell. I think I would say I would put I F F. Oh yeah. That's the number one spelling. Right. Because that's how it's spelled in the English language. And there's and there's and there's just one F. Correct.

Yeah. One F. Okay. Yeah. Mostly because like my name is I F E C H U K W U D E. Yes. So it's just so it should be just I F E but I F Y seems like it sounds more because I feel like if I wrote I F E people would be calling me ife.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Which is closer to how my dad pronounces it, but I like iffy better. That's good. It's a cool name. It is a cool name. My name is Mike. My real name is Mike.

I know everyone calls me Mitch. Oh yeah. Yeah. That is I for a second forgot your whole name. What? Your name is Mike. It's very confusing because your name is you. You also answered Michael.

Michael. Your full name is Michael. My full name is Michael. Michael Donovan Mitchell. Yeah. Michael Donovan Mitchell. Michael Donovan Mitchell is a very like down the middle name in the U.S. Yeah.

I'm Nicholas Frank Weiger. Although I found out recently my legal middle name is F. I went to go get my. What? I don't know what it was, but I went to get my my real ID. My real ID. My real ID. My real ID.

My real ID. My real ID. My real ID. My real ID. My real ID. My real ID. My real ID. My real ID.

My real ID. My real ID. My real ID. My real ID. My driver's license. And the lady there was like looking at the records and looking at all the documents I brought and she was like, okay, I believe you that your middle name is Frank. But according to our records, but actually in actuality, your legal first name is just

F. Your middle name is F? Yeah. Your legal middle name, rather. It's just F. Did your parents forgot the rank? I don't know if they just, yeah, they forgot the rank maybe on the birth certificate or something.

But yeah, Nicholas Weiger. Nicholas F. Weiger is my legal name if you want to steal my identity. How can you get the rank with your fucking rank, ass? I don't smell bad. Fucking rank, ass bitch. We both smell good. Neither of us has an odor problem. I worked out today.

I kind of do smell bad actually. You're still generally pretty hygienic. I think we're hygienic men. Yes, I try. For the longest time, I thought my middle name was Frederick because and my parents till this day deny this up and down so much. But for the, I asked like my dad and my mom what my middle name was and they said it was Frederick.

They, they said it was Frederick. And so I was like, there are probably some like young, if he documents out there, that goes if you should coup day Frederick Mwadi way. I remember saying it, telling people that. And then one time I had my birth certificate and I looked at it and I was like, my middle name's E. G. Yoma.

And then my dad's like, yeah. I was like, you told me it was Frederick. Cause I did not tell you it was Frederick. I was like, why would I think my middle name was Frederick? Like what, what reason would I think that that's my middle name other than like I went for such a long period of my time. And then for a while I tried to just include it because I found out that that was my grandfather's name.

So I was like, if you should coup day E. G. Yoma Frederick Douglas, but that is just too long. It's cool though. Yeah. It is cool. Wait, but it is. So my last name is Wadiway, not Douglas.

I just threw that on there for fun. I didn't even fucking catch that. Is the, yeah, I thought you're adding a second middle name is the, so wait, is your actual middle name doesn't even start with an F. No, it's I. E. G. Yoma.

Wow. Damn. That's crazy. It's a, you got a much better name than Nicholas F. Weigher. That sounds like, that sounds like a, it does sound like a serial killer's name. It's sort of Michael Dunham and Mitchell. Could be an assassin.

Definitely. Sounds like the name of a protagonist in a first draft script. What are you going to call them? Nicholas F. Why? So if he, and you mentioned your, your, your father, you are Nigerian. Yes. And there was an, there's an Nigerian chain that our mutual friend OPI told me about

that I'm fascinated by that I wanted to pick your brain about OPI from OPI and Anthony. Yeah. That is aware of Nigerian chain restaurants. Mr. Biggs. Yeah. And this is a place I just learned about. And Mitch, have you seen this logo? It's the sex in the city.

Yeah. It's the sex in the city theme chain. So it's a huge show in Nigeria. Mr. Biggs, it's like a pretty much a carbon copy of the McDonald's logo. The same coloration, red and yellow. That, that, that logo rules. It kind of is awesome. Oh yeah.

I think, I think I have a picture. So while we're talking about this, I'm going to search for my picture of Mr. Biggs. Okay. Great. Because yeah, I went to Nigeria at this point almost eight years ago, but we stopped by Mr. Biggs. And I think I went to Mr. Biggs twice.

And I remember the first time we got like traditional like Nigerian food, but the second time I got a burger and the burger was wild because it didn't have cheese and I am team. You better put cheese on that burger. I'm lactose intolerant mildly and I'll risk it every time. Put cheese on my burger. Don't give me a burger. You need it. You need it.

But it had a, it also came with a cucumber and red onions and I was like, oh, I see, I see the idea. I see the thinking here, right? Not a day. I know follow through. I will say I did eat that burger. I did not stop me from eating that burger. How was it?

Was it? It was fine. You know, I was like, oh man, these cucumbers sure would be better if they're pickled, but, but, uh, but yeah, it was a solid burger. It was great. What were like, what any condiments on it? Um, not, not that I remember. So just a dry burger, a dry patty with, with the cucumbers and red onions.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm also a tourist here. There might be something, you know, OP was no so OP. So the difference between me and OP is I was born out here. I'm a first generation Nigerian OP lived in Nigeria and then came out. So he's, you know, he's a little, he's his, his night, Niger creds a little deeper than mine, uh, but we do also look like brothers.

Uh, it became, it was one of those times where someone pointed it out and then, uh, we like did a poll on Instagram. Right. I was like, do we look like we're brothers and unanimous, uh, boats? So yeah, uh, follow OP. He's a cool guy. He worked with you. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. Work with me on Sarah Silverman. Um, but, uh, but if he's so like, so what else is, you were saying Mr. Biggs, you were saying they have burgers, they have Nigerian food. Like, so what is the menu? Is it kind of like a little bit of everything? Yeah.

Like you got your chicken there. You know, this is eight years ago. So I could be misremembering me. Right. Cause I had a hard time. I was, I was searching for, uh, I was searching for menus and I couldn't even find like an image of the menu. I can even find like a screenshot of it.

Well, yeah, I think I honestly feel like Nigerians would feel that's weird to take a picture of the menu. Right. I don't know what recipe, uh, but so, but I do remember cause like I like walked in and I was just so, cause it was like so empty cause we were on like a road, Mr. Big, like it wasn't in like the city and, uh, and I remember seeing like, yeah, burger, got your, your chicken. I think, I think it had gel off rice, uh, and you know, other, other types of

dishes. Right. Uh, would have a menu just so for nostalgia sake, I'm gonna, why didn't I take a picture of that? That seems like something I should have taken a picture of. I took a picture of the sign cause I was like this place. Mr. Big right is the spot, but a menu is the kind of thing you can just commonly find online.

You wouldn't think there would be such a mystery to track it down, but it is. Nick, I told you when I was traveling abroad, I wish that the McDonald's were more different. I wish that I, and I think maybe it's now just a newer, you know what I mean? Like as, as, as a time has gone on, you mean like because like you keep expecting there to be some, some completely different menu items in different countries and it's a lot. Largely.

There's a lot overlap with the US menu globalization, man. I oppose it. Yeah, me too. Uh, so wait. So you mentioned y'all off rice. The double boys finally got their stance on globalization. Opposed globalization. Um, so, uh, you, but as you were running through the, uh, the menu items at

Mr. Biggs, you mentioned y'all off rice. Now this is a, this is a Nigerian dish. Yes. I mean the jell of rice, uh, you know, gonins make it poorly. Okay. Uh, but, uh, you know, Niger, that's, that's, it's a big point of contingent. Wow.

Who makes it better. It's Nigerians. Wow. Shot at Ghana. Yeah. Big shots. Uh, but yeah, it's pretty much like the closest representation. And I'm just saying this for sake.

I, I, every time I talk about anything Nigerian, I'm just hearing the Nigerian who is going to, um, actually me, uh, but like it's like kind of like Spanish rice, right? You have tomato sauce in it. It's very spicy, very delicious. Uh, I'll have to bring you, uh, so I'll bring you a plate. I'll bring you both a plate. How are y'all with spice?

Oh, I love it. I love it. It kills me though. Okay. Yeah. Nick is somewhat of a heat. You guys say something about Ghana. What was it?

Hey Ghana, nice fucking try. He can't handle tonight's area is fucking rice pieces of shit. I shouldn't call him. Yeah. I was with you until now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, fucking chief.

Try, try, try hard. I don't know. You heard it here first. You're not pieces of shit, but you should make better rice. Nigerian gel off rice, the official rice of the dough boys. Uh, yeah, we'll make that. We'll have that be a be official. We'll take that stance.

Yeah. Yeah. We like the Nigerian version of shawl off rice or the inferior Ghani inversion. Can we, I want to get that on the package dough boys prefer. Oh yeah. Like it is there. I'm just going to send that, send that pick the cartoon logo and it can be on

pack in Nigeria on the packages like there's two fat white guys on. It looks, well, I'm going to buy it. People are people are burning our shirts in Ghana now. Do you like how I called you a fat guy? I, it's fine. I'm back. I'm fat again. But you know, uh, but, but if you are a guy who's really leaned out and part of

how I, because I, you know, we, I have known you for a while and I worked with you for a, for a while and, uh, and you were, you've always been a guy who's very, uh, jacked, I guess is what I'd say. Like you're a guy who lives weights, but there was, there was a time when you're kind of bigger all around your kind of a T H I C C kind of. Yeah. Yeah. You slimmed down a little bit.

You slimmed down a lot. Substantial amount. It's a funny. You look great. You look great. There is your, you're, you're just, I mean, a big boy club. There's big boys. Right.

Why are you a big boy? You know, my mom and sister said this to me. Yes. They said that they were surprised. What are you? What the fuck? They said they were surprised that you were a big, a big boy. They thought you were like a, uh, they thought you were a skinny, dweeby

nerd. They thought I was going to be like a little guy. Yeah. They were ready to stuff you into a trash barrel. It's because I'm taken next to you, which looks like a forced perspective of V.M. McCullen next to Frodo Baggins. I'm just a big boy.

You're a large man. I'm also large, but you're even larger than me. So it, look, I don't, the people can't tell I'm like six, one, 200. Yeah. But I'm a, I'm a, I'm a big guy, but, but if you're a big guy, but like, like, let's talk about, you, you leaned out a little bit and that's through a keto diet, which I know we talked about a little bit when you're on here for the Doughboys double, but, uh, but let's recap, like, how have you been

maintaining that? And, and how, like, how strict are you on it? I mean, at this point, like, since I've reached my goal, I'm not that strict. I was just, uh, just in New York for a week. I was eating famous foods. I was eating, uh, that pizza. I went to Portland, hit a pine state. Wow.

A biscuit. You know, I'm, I'm on the eating tour, but like the way I do it is I just kind of just hop back on for a bit, hop off. You know, a lot of like the keto says was like, you're not supposed to do that. Uh, I don't follow the rules. I've reached my goal weight and I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want now. Right. Right.

Yeah. I kind of appreciate that. I mean, once you, once you get, once you get to where you want to be. Yeah. But you can maintain homeostasis. Like you, you, you don't find yourself putting on weight. I definitely see like the fluctuation, but I don't freak out about it. Like I'll just like look in the mirror and, and that's the thing is like,

it's really hard to kind of like visually kind of gauge your weight because like, like for example, lactose intolerant still heavily on cheeses, milks and all that. So I'll get bloated and then I'll just kind of like, I will like be like, oh snap. All right. Time to get back on it. And then like the dairy will pass through me and then I'll just like slim down just from that bloat and I'll be like, oh fuck that time to go back.

Like I try and because also there's just something about like following a semi strict diet that kind of puts me in a like headspace of like, okay, we're being more focused. We're going to be on point with things. I'm actually going to like read the lines to my audition before I walk in, you know? It is crazy. I was just, I would say this to Nick. Just, I mean, like, I was doing great and then it changes everything mentally and it really, it's just, it's just night and day.

Yeah. And then now that I've been, I've been bad the last couple of weeks, man. Yeah. It's been a fucking. There's always time to be good. It's true. You can recover. That's what it like.

I try not to get too crestfallen when I get big and bloated like I kind of am now and then. Sometimes it can be a month fall. Some night. Yeah. And that's basically what I had. I had like a month fall. Right.

Yeah. But I, because I used to do a lot of like Brazilian jujitsu and I really, you know, really leaning into the so Cal that it was back when everyone was doing Brazilian jujitsu. So watching fight and they have this thing where it's like you have your walking weight and your fighting weight and, you know, your walking weight is like way bigger, but then when you have to fight, you cut and all that and that's kind of how it just treated life where it's like, all right, cool pilot season's coming up. Time to get to my fighting weight.

Right. And there's like, all right. It's summer. It's time to get to my walking way. And that's kind of how like bodybuilders do it too. Right. Since I'm so into fitness, I follow a lot of bodybuilders and those, those folks aren't just ripped like that all the time.

They, they shred up, they get super strict, get in shape for the competitions and then literally after they walk across that stage in place or not, they're in a restaurant eating all the things that they couldn't eat. Yeah. I think that's the perfect balance. I don't, I don't think, I don't think it's just normal to just deprive yourself of eating good because I feel good when I eat good. I was just in joy the other day, literally yesterday, I've, I cannot stop going there.

And like I had my like mango slush with sake in it. I had the thousand layer pancake. Where was this? Joy. Oh joy. Yeah. And then I had the scallion bread with pork belly, like I was just took a bite out of one, took a bite out of the other, took a sip, and then I just had this like intense

wave of euphoria. Psychologist is going to like reply and be like, oh, you're addicted to food, but you know what? I don't give a fuck. Right. Well, Nick and I have said that food eating is our favorite of all things. Oh yeah. It beats love, booze, drugs, sex.

I think, I think we, I think that we said it's number one. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I don't know what. Well, with me it overlaps because I eat ass. So, so that's, so it's just the same, you know, I don't have to cut out sex. He's millennials. I love eating ass. He's damn millennial.

I always got their faces buried between a pair of cheeks. But yeah, no, it is like whenever there's like those like you can cut out anything like you don't have to eat anymore. You don't have to sleep anymore. You don't have to poop. I think I'd cut out pooping. Like I'd still interesting, you know, I'd still eat fucking feel good sometimes though. Yeah.

Yeah, that relief. The relief can feel good, Nick. Here's it. I mean, I think that I would cut this out too, by the way, but here's the thing. It's like it's most likely to really disrupt your day because you don't know if you're in a situation where it's like, oh, OK, I can't take. I don't have enough privacy for what's about to happen, you know, that's like that's the word or like I'm on like I'm on the bus and I'm like, oh, my God,

this is an emergency. I don't know how I'm going to handle this. Like usually usually just drop your trousers and go on the bus. Yeah, I just become the weird pan shit guy on the bus. The shit guy is back. He's back. He's going to shit again. He should do a big gold cut.

Oh, he's drinking from it now. Here's another thing about about shit. Number one, it stinks. It stinks. It smells bad. It's loud. It's loud. Yeah.

And you're not going to like you can maybe someone will maybe like snicker a little bit if you're you got a really loud pee or something, but a really loud shit is just like Jesus Christ. No one's happy. Yeah, I used to be really bathroom shy and then I like figured out why. It was for both number one and number two and just number two. Number one, I yeah, I can pee next to even, you know, those old dudes who always want to talk to you while you're peeing.

Oh, yeah, I'm fine with that. Beats working for a living. Hey, you know, guys will say that to you sometimes. But when I was in high school, like I snuck off during class and I was taking a dump and like I was like taking a dump and I heard like footsteps and I was like, it sounds like this guy is waiting to hear me. Oh, yeah, I was like free and he just wouldn't leave and I was just holding it and I was like and then he walked out and then I finally pooped.

And when I came out, he had like a camera like a like, you know, you know those kids now full of TSLR. Oh, my God. And he was like, Hey, did you flush? Can I take a picture of your poop? And I was like, what the hell? Yeah, he was in like photography class and he probably wanted to do a weird gross thing for it.

What the fuck? Yeah, but or he's into fucking shit. Yeah, I was going to take a picture of someone else's shit. Yeah, yeah, your own shit. Like it was what if you want to take a picture of shit, photograph your own shit to go to someone. Did he know? I mean, no, I did not know it was a stranger at school and asked

to photograph that shit. That's just don't take pictures of any shit. I yes, I agree with that. But if I don't think you do for whatever reason, if you have that as the subject in your photography class, if you're like, I'm going to do my shit look my shit exhibit for whatever reason, photograph your own shit. I've never wanted to look at your camera roll and I especially don't. It's just Sonic Hentai.

I will say there are times where I'm like, let's see what's popping on rule 34 like let's see what these kids are up to because sometimes they get creative. I'm like, all right, yeah, a lot of it just seems to sort of top whatever the last thing that was created. I just I want to quickly say I got to quickly get this out of the way as a big guy. I think everyone wanted me like I think everyone wanted me to be who was so

comfortable with like farting in front of you. He'd fart in the hallway. It'd be funny. People would laugh and I think that like as a big guy. I think people wanted me to be like I could never get. I could never get over that. I could never. I was embarrassed of taking poos and going to the taking my little poos in

the bathroom. I couldn't I couldn't I couldn't get I couldn't get over that hump. People had a dream of you being the farting guy. They could call like be for or gas mask or something. It was never and I don't do you know this Nick. I don't do that sort of thing. Yeah. But anyways, if there is still like a smell, I'll still get for being the big

guy. We talked about that happens. I'll get playing for it. But right one last thing generation X. We don't eat ass. We wipe them right Nick. Yeah. Yeah, that's what we do. Anyways, what we were saying?

I'm sorry. Oh yeah. No, yeah rule 34. Yeah. Let's stop this combo to jump into this rule 34. But I remember on Twitter, there was this guy who was like, give me give me any number or it was a letter from a to z. Okay.

And locks next to it. And it was like, give me a letter and then check your DMS. And I was just about to do it and something was like, let me just go to his profile and see like what he's up to. Right. Like so because that might give me clues to what I might receive. And the pinned pick, he has he's an artist and it was a pinned photo of everyone in team star Fox in a chain fucking each other.

Wow. Like laid on the ground. It was even slippy. Yeah. Even slippy getting ramrodded. I think at the end of the at the like the back was star Fox. And then at the top was their slippy. There's what's the other guy peppy peppy hair.

Yeah. He was in the front taking it all. Wow. These the old one too. Isn't he? Yeah. He's telling the guys in the back to do a barrel roll. I was like, wow.

And I was like, I'm glad. I was like, I almost wish either I just gave a letter and just what I had probably random random furry point. That's what is paid. He was a furry porn artist. Yeah. Nick, do you want to ask for his username now or should we wait? Yeah, just DM it to me.

I always like you don't follow like anything. Weird in Sonic. I already send it to Nick already. And all and I feel like Nick's always like, I've seen this. I've already. Of course. This is nothing new. Yeah.

I've seen I've seen a Sonic and Shadow combined into one toilet. One sentient toilet. I've seen is where's Sonic? Is he on the table? Where is he? I don't know. Oh, he's right here. Sonic.

We got our little Sonic pop figurine that someone sent to us. Very, very cool. So good. Yeah. It's nice. A bit very cute. I'm upset that it's not pregnant though. Oh, it will be.

What is what is what is this? Oh, quick aside. It doesn't have to be a long thing. What do you think is the last good Sonic game that was made? You know what? A Sonic Mania is very good. The new one is a lot of fun. Not counting Mania.

Because not counting me because it's kind of a remix. I don't know. I mean, I beat Sonic Mania. Is it very hard to beat it? I beat it, but I didn't get like you. You have to go through all those fucking Sonic CD style 3D levels with just a pain in the ass to get everything. I like I think Jack did it, but I didn't feel like doing it.

That's fucking. But anyway, the. Oh, yes, I might go back to Sonic Adventures 2. Oh, nice. You go back further than me. Mine is Sonic Rush. Okay. Yes, version.

Sure. Because it was like very fast paced blaze. The cat was a real cool new character. Was that one of the 2D ones? Or is that a 3D one? I think it was the 3D, but it like was more so just like the perception of the level, not necessarily like running in 3D. Got it.

But it was still a side scroller. Everyone like really, I had so much fun. I beat the shit out of this game. Is there what's the what's the good? Is there a good 3D Sonic game or no? I mean, that that's what I would. We were talking about the Sonic Adventures series. The Dreamcast is maybe the only.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if there are any of the modern Sonics. Some of the some of them I played are pretty extracurable, but it's maybe there's a good one in there somewhere. It's sad to me that we never got a Mario 64 of Sonic. Yeah, it would have been nice. Sonic Adventures came came close,

but even that was kind of not really it kind of not not on that same level. Yeah, which is a shame. But I mean, the thing is like the Sonic games were never as much about exploration. Well, they I don't want to say that they were never as much about. The pace was so much was so much of like what's fun about Sonic. And so you can't really kind of have the in the same way that Mario 64 has this sort of Mario 64 is like a kind of a slow game.

You know, you sort of go around and I want to replay Mario 64, but I also think that the they should just whatever they should. They should do an updated version of Mario 64, release it. You know what? Everyone else does it. Yeah. Hey, Disney's sure doing it. Yeah. Why can't Nintendo make like an HD Mario 64? Just same game play, fix some of the bugs. Yeah.

So maybe throw you throw some of those Mario 64 DS characters that were playable in there. Three DS characters. My rules. It'd be a it'd be a hoot. Yeah, make it happen. One at one extra level or something. But yeah, what people like things games just like reskin and given an HD update.

Who do we have to talk to? Shigeru Miyamoto? Yeah, I'll DM Miyamoto and I think they'll probably do it. Do you think he you think he responds to like thirst traps? I think I think you get some DM slides. Yeah, we could send them as a thirst trap and see if see if we catch a fly. Yeah, everyone you're all spoken for right now. Well, Mitch has Wally and Irma as two cats.

Yeah, yeah. What's your DMs looking like, Mitch? Wally and Irma sometimes slip into my DMs and I say I'm in the other room. That my DMs are fine. My DMs are filled with I have to go back and I'm very bad with emails as Nick knows. Yes, and any form of messaging. I just assume you're off email because you just generally I'm still I'm getting back on you.

You are but you don't like you first of all and we've said this on the account before. You're the only person I know who still uses your AOL email address. Like that's your main email address. And like people your emails will be sent and I can never tell. If someone sent something to both you and me, I will screen cap it and send a text to you of the screen. To be fair, you do you immediately will do that. But because I've habituated myself to doing that because I know you don't read them.

No, I do. I do read them. On occasion. Unless they get fucking boring. So OK, so if you so as you were because we're talking about keto diet a little bit, you do have some some cheap meals or you do have some some periods rather when you're just off keto. What are your favorite indulgences?

If you are just going to eat something super unhealthy, what do you like to go with? I mean, like it definitely I always have to hit a Carl's Jr. Oh, hell yeah. Because like, you know, they the Western bacon cheeseburger is just undefeated. I will. You go to go regular Western or you go double? It depends on how much I like the double, but I'll go regular. I just big question.

Six dollars or six dollars. I'm sorry. Thick burger or the regular. The regular. Yeah, because yeah, some something about the the thick patty just doesn't really resonate and hit the same way that that man that Western does. I'm probably going to go now on my way home like that. Oh, no.

Yeah. That's what this podcast does to people. No, that's good. Why not? He's going to have a he's going to have a nice burger. You're going to get a lettuce wrap. We'll see. But it's it's funny because it's either that or I'm a big like I love sweets and

breakfast, so I'll like try and hit some type of breakfast food, but I've been getting real fancy with my stuff. You know, go into these hip spots and I remember I'll always forget the I always remember the first like hip food spot I went to because it was at sketch fest. Me and Lamar waited up for the what is it called? Of course, I'm going to forget now sweet something. It was in San Francisco sweet maple and he heard about it from like I think one of the new girl writers or something and he was like, we got to hit the spot and

none of the guys and white women wanted to wait and it was just me and Lamar and then I we got in and of course it slapped sidebar on that people. Some people from the Bay are like, oh, food smacks. It doesn't slap. I think that's really interesting. It's very silly. Slaps is what I use for food too. I'm never going to say smack.

It slapped and you know, I'm so Cal for life. So I'll also be on tea. Jesus. And it was so and they had this thing called the billionaire pancake, which is basically a thick cut. I mean, the billionaire bacon, which is thick cut bacon with like maple syrup on it and seasoning and it was great. But ever since then, I was like, okay, I'm not opposed for waiting for food.

Still the same on because I've before that time, I hate waiting. Like if I walk into like a McDonald's or any fast food and there's a line, then I'm out. If I walk in and like I'm waiting for a bit, I'm out even like an in and out burger. I in and out like you make a little exception there. Because that one, there's no way to avoid it. Right. Yeah.

And I, you know, we grew up out here. I had it in and out outside of my high school. So I like, wow. Yeah. So I would go that I was eating in and out almost daily. So I, it's just part of it. Like you can't avoid it. So you have to wait.

But like, you know, if I essentially like, if it's like three people in line, I'll wait anything above that. I'm out. I just want my fast food fast. What's a good hashtag for, for high school, fast food, the closest high school, fast food place. Mine was a Tommy's burger and in middle school, it was a Taco Bell. Fuck, that's the Taco Bell rules, but the Tommy's burger.

So you're in high school. I never went there. I'm not going to get a fucking chili burger and get diarrhea at school. You had a different high school than me because I'm, I'm shitting everyone. Give me that time. Yeah, baby. High school. What's a, what's a, what's a good one?

Tell me all of that. I was going to say high school Mackay, but that doesn't even make sense. Hashtag high school, confidential. There we go. Let us know what your, what your closest chain in broxom need. By the way, I made it through all of elementary school, middle school, high school, never once shit at school. Jesus.

Never once. What? I, I came out the gate. And what did you do it? I had to. You have no choice. My way. You never just shit at school.

Not a single. I thought you meant shit your pants. No, that's never even shit in a toilet. My mom gave me a skeleton key to like go down to like the secret bathroom. Okay. So you get that nice fucking janitor's bathrooms. You pick it up. No, I found out the trick that, you know, the bathrooms are emptier during class.

Oh, interesting. Right. So I would always just save my shits for in the middle of class. Man, I was, I guess I was lucky when my, I was able to time my BMS to after school. So it'd be like, I get home for, I honestly, I'd be getting, get off the bus, be walking home and be like kind of like, Oh fuck. I like having to shit very, very badly. I was just like my daily routine.

I just hope your parents thought you were just running in there to jerk off. Go straight to the bathroom. I don't know what's up with Nicky F. We'll take a break. We'll be back aboard. Welcome back to dough boys. This week's chain is Lee sandwiches. This week's guest.

If you waddy way, uh, Mitch, we're going to talk about this chain, but you had something to say before we went to break. I just, I want to say my two fast food places that were near my, my, uh, my high school. Hashtag high school, confudential. High school, high school, confudential. Yes. Um, high, uh, high school, confudential. Thanks for everything.

Julie food mar. Isn't that a combination of two different things? Yes. Okay. Um, I like it though. Mine was McDonald's, which was one of the first 24 hour drive through McDonald's across the street. Yeah. And then D'Angelo's or Dingle dangles, as my mom calls it.

That's funny. Um, and in that D'Angelo's, Nick, this, this, this will, this will, this combat combines all the stories. A lot of scat talk on this. Uh, yeah, this is a shit episode, uh, but, uh, but I, I, I, I, I ditched school with Micas and we went over to D'Angelo's. I was like, I have to use the bathroom. That was a part of the reason I was cutting school.

Yes. And I went in there and the toilet broke at D'Angelo's at Dingle dangles at D'Angelo's. Uh, so there was subs up front and fucking subs in their fucking toilet. Christ fucking hell. And then, uh, we got caught by the guy everyone caught. I think his name was Palumbo and, uh, like Colombo, his name was Palumbo with a P. Uh, just one more question here. Seems like you're cutting school here, going over to Dingle dangles, uh, take a

shit in the bathroom. That's, he caught us and he was like, you guys skipping school. We're like, no, you brought us to the Dean and I was like, we weren't skipping. And I was like, I went to the bathroom in D'Angelo's and I was like, it's still in there. If you don't believe me, like it's in the toilet. Come on. And he was like, what?

I got a DSLR camera. Let me take a picture of it from the glass. And then he laughed at the Dean laughed at me and then everyone really funny. Yeah, it was, that's insane. Yeah. And then, and then, uh, Liam, the one of the security guards, my mom walked by and she's like, what's going on? And she was like, oh, nothing.

We caught him smoking and he was joking. And then my mom said, he's smoking again. And then my, and then the Dean was my football coach. He got pissed at me. I had to run. I had to run laps out the wazoo smoke. You never, you never smoke. I didn't ever smoked.

Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Uh, that was my big, long, boring story. I liked it. It was good. Really?

That's a twist in terms. Thank you. I mean, it was disgusting, but it was good. Which part of the big, long shit? By the way, I like, uh, I like Mrs. Mitchell saying dingle dingles. That's very cute. Thank you. Very in character with, uh, with your, your lovely mom who I get to spend time with.

And hey, she may not think I'm a big boy, but I hope she also thinks I'm a good boy. Cause I am. The fuck? Man, you are not staying at my house. I changed my mind. Oh, I just knocked the, the Epstein skateboard down. Yep. Oh no.

I thought Bill Clinton left with that. Uh, there's another one. I brought this one from home. Uh, so if he, uh, you, you, I said, wow, during Mitch's story, not a fully because of a story department because you showed me a picture from Mr. Biggs. Yeah. I found it, uh, uh, when I wrote this article, this is a old art article. And it turns out it must be before I had the burger.

I'll show it to you, Mitch. Well, what are you, so what are you going to say, Mitch? No, no. You're really laughing at the shit in the grid. Didn't you win a teen choice award to scariest person to teens? All right. So you have this on your website. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's, uh, this is an old blog I used to have, uh, which I should delete. It's, it, uh, it talks about his, this is, uh, so when I went to Nigeria, I actually blogged about my whole experience there. So that's how I was able to hit it. And it goes about an hour later, we arrived at Mr. Biggs. Mr. Biggs is a Nigerian food train that has a restaurant near the village. So he stopped in to grab a bite.

It was interesting to see a fast food joint sell Nigerian food. They had burgers, but I didn't come to Nigeria to eat a burger. I grabbed a meat pie and an apple drink. I wanted to snap pictures of the inside, but thought, man, forget it. No, I'm not going to need this years from now on a podcast. I love that, uh, that I did document like that would have been a good idea. But that said, fuck it. Well, if he, when dope boys go to Nigeria, we'll bring you along and we'll review Mr.

Biggs and then we'll go to Ghana and get beaten to death. Angry, angry, angry, take on Ghana and Jollof rice. You know what they're not going to do is feed us to death with their delicious rice. They'll feed you to death with their subpar. Yes, subpar shitty rice. So Lee's sandwiches was founded in 1983 in San Jose by the lay brothers. There are over 60 locations across the west coast and the southwest. Bon Me is their specialty.

Also appetizers, pastries and ice copies. Are you going to say Mitch? People call you me the lay brothers. Because we're fuck machines. That was the joke. I just wanted to clarify. Yeah, it's a joke because we're so not that. Right. We're so not that.

We're famously, uh, impotent. You were saying that we were very viral. The menu is divided between Asian sandwiches and Euro sandwiches, but the Asian sandwiches are the place to go there and went to the Van Nys location if he, I was, I was excited, surprised and thrilled that you picked Lee's sandwiches because I have a lot of fandom for it. But why did you pick this chain? What is your history with it?

Well, because so I only, so the improv team, this is actually bringing a full circle that coin candy dinner. Yes. It was, it was Orange County based. So I, Lee's sandwiches got introduced to me out there because out in Orange County, near Irvine and like they're everywhere, but they're hard, pretty hard. We have to go all the way to fucking Van Nys to eat it out here. And I think the other one is in like commerce, right?

There aren't a lot in the, in the greater LA area, but down in Orange County, there's a ton and up in the Bay area, there's a bunch supposedly. Um, yeah, there's there. So the in, in West, that Westminster area, there's, there's, I believe it's in Westminster. It might be in another city in Orange County, but there's little Saigon. There's like a, you know, a very large Vietnamese American population. Ton of great food down there.

And yeah, you'll just see Lee's sandwiches all over the place. And so I used to, I actually had one back when I was living in Garden Grove for a bit. I had one really close and I do the drive-thru because you can get Vietnamese coffee, which is so great. It's so potent. Yeah, it's, it's, it's everything people believe coffee should be, but we're too afraid to make it that way. Yeah.

But yeah, so I was, and so I was just thinking because I, you know, I, I was always like, man, what, what chains haven't y'all covered? You know, because you've been going strong. And then I just, that's when I was like, oh, I love Lee's. And I think it was literally, it was literally, because I had like a real hankering for Lee's like a few months ago. And so I searched. I was like, let me just be a hundred percent sure that I can't get it in LA.

And that's when I did the search and saw that it was in like fan eyes and those places. And I was like, I wonder if the dough boys have been to Lee's. And that's when I sent you that message. I'm glad you did because this is a, this is a fun one to cover a Mitch and Mitch. I assume you've never been to Lee's sandwiches. I've never been to Lee's sandwich. Oh, wow. Fun.

I never had a bond me sandwich until I came to the, the West Coast here. I think that's pretty common because I don't, I think there's, and I was reading about where this chain is. And, you know, I think it's only East Coast presidents is in Virginia. I think a lot of the, the Vietnamese expat population is on the West Coast and then Texas and Louisiana. Yeah. I've also been here for 14 years now.

Right. Right. But no, I know. But yeah, but I'm not sure if there's as much of a presence of the East Coast. Although I think I, but maybe I could, I could be completely wrong. But, but so this chain is, yeah, it's, it's, it's bond me. And, you know, there's, there's a lot more to this is, this is me saying something that, that Natalie is kind of iterated to be by lovely wife.

She, you know, Vietnamese food, there's a lot more to it than just bond me. Like that's, there's a lot more to it than bond me and fun. That's what a lot of people associate with it. It's like thinking of Mexican food as tacos and nachos. It's like, there's a lot more to it than that. But, but, you know, this is like a fast food version of bond me. And I think it, maybe we should evaluate it on those, on those terms. Yeah.

So we got the, I gotta say, they didn't have a lot of sweet treats. And they didn't have a lot of the appetizers because we went close to closing. And this is a place where that, that does, I feel like it does most of its business for lunch and for catering. But we went there and we got the almond croissant, which was one of the few sweet treats they had left. And we ordered some string rolls. They didn't have them.

We ordered pate chaude, which is my favorite thing. You can get at least sandwiches and they didn't have that. But what is, what is that? It's like a savory puff pastry with a Vietnamese pork meatball inside. It's fucking great. And they do a great one. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of times in Natalie's family functions, they'll, they'll have like

a bunch of homemade food, but they'll just have a huge like tray of like pate chaude from, from Lee's sandwiches. And it's, it's delightful. I want some. But yeah, it was a shame they didn't have that, but it probably would have been, would have been old anyway. Almond croissant, I thought was pretty good. They warmed it up for us.

Yeah. It was nice and warm. And then I already had my Vietnamese coffee. So it went well with the flavor palette that was currently in my mouth. What did you do? Cause I noticed you had a, when I, when I showed up, you had that ice coffee or sip. Oh yeah. That's all I was thinking about the moment I knew we were going there.

And so I was like, I'm not going to wait. I'm going to get this ice coffee. And this is like after I, after I went to a Red Bull event. So I had like, I was three Red Bulls deep and I was like, no, let's just go ahead and put my heart in a casket. It's like seven thirty p.m. I don't know how you're doing it. Yeah.

I was like, let's go, you know, right? And also internet still isn't installed at my place. So I had nothing to do, but I was awake. Right. But yeah, no, I went in and I bought just cause it's just so like it's, you know, I don't know the exact recipe, but it's almost like you're drinking the concentrate of what the drink should be because it's such a like concentrated,

but so flavorful mix of things. Yeah. That a lot of times there's a condensed milk in there, which is like super potent. And then just the way the coffee is filtered, it's like super duper strong. Yeah. It's like it's like a really potent cold brew. So but what did you think of that almond croissant, Mitch? I thought it was good.

I appreciate that was that it was that it was heated up a little bit. It's nice that they have pastries there. The chicken egg rolls were very disappointing. Chicken egg rolls, maybe the loser of the meal and I wasn't a fan. I think they were. So they were basically just sitting in a sitting in the warm case and they were like, I think they were like sub seven eleven quality. They were very bad.

I clearly they've been made like fried up in the morning and just sitting there all day. We should have we should have ordered. We should have pivoted in order the the shrimp in and pork ones instead. I don't know if they even would have had. Yeah, I don't know. I mean it was real rough because yeah, we originally wanted spring rolls and they didn't have them and then I like totally had a flashback. There's a good buddy of mine used to always come from Orange County down to

the Geek and Sundry places with like a full tray of spring rolls. And so when I saw it, I just totally flash back and was like, this is going to be so good and we're like, we don't have them. And then the, you know, I really want to break down this egg roll because there's many iterations of egg rolls that we see. Yeah, I was kind of expecting the typical like thick boy egg roll and it looked more like lumpia if you're familiar with it, where it's like a skinny, very smooth egg roll and really wasn't the, you know, talking about much.

Yeah, not very substantial. Like almost almost a Vienna sausage size. It's like pretty, pretty tiny. Oh yeah, real rough. And it was, it was, it was stuffed. Like that chicken was very stuffed with dry, like the chicken almost saying, saying the Vienna sausage thing, it had like the consistency of like, do you know at 7-Eleven how there's like on the hotdog rollers, there's like a chicken

hotdog? Yes. That is like what that the meat consistency was. Right. I know what you mean. Yeah. It was, it was not, they were not chicken big bite or whatever. Yes.

The chicken big bite. That's what, that's exactly what it was like and it was not, it was a for sure loser that the and also look when I first walked into the place, there was a big bee. There was a big bee in the window, which I don't know if they put that up for us for the big boys or if that was that's what it was for and he was he was fired up because he saw his natural enemy of bear approaching. Not a bumblebee.

Oh, a B score, a B score. You thought I meant a bumblebee. Also, you think that the bee's enemy is the bear? Yeah. Because you steal their precious honey. They're at odds. All right. Sure.

I guess you're right. The letter B grade, I apologize for that. Yes. The letter B grade was fucking on display in the window. A lot of times those can be this is the thing our buddy Farley Elliott has written about a lot of things. You can get those four practices that aren't even all unsanitary. Like you can have chipped tile and I'm not sure if this is a point he's

particularly talked about, but you can have like chipped tile in the kitchen and that that sort of thing can get you down enough points to put you in B category. OK. So but but yeah, it's not necessarily a huge red flag. I think once you get into C territory. Tiles made out of potato chips. What? Just keep just keep going.

You're saying that like that that was the issue that like this and move on. Someone use like Pringles to make yes tiles in a kitchen. You know what? I put myself out there trying to make a joke. That's OK. It's we both do this. We're not good at it. Her batting percentage is not very high.

I bet a thousand. So we we got the Bon Mise. So the Bon Mise they they're served on a 10 inch baguette. They come with a by default. They have a house pickle, which is an icon in carrot, onions, jalapeno and cilantro. And as if you pointed out that that jalapeno will sneak up on you because they tuck them away. And then it's also got salt and pepper, soy sauce and house mayonnaise spread on there. So that that's basically the fault.

And then you just get a different a different meat. If you got the barbecue pork, pork Chinese style. Yeah, yeah, it was it was it was interesting. I I I mean, I enjoyed it. It was very delicious. But I do for nostalgia reason reasons wish I did stay the course and go with something that wasn't like a special. But I did thoroughly enjoy it.

I thought it was super delicious. But then when I had a bite of yours, I was like, this was the wave. Is that what you normally go with something with the cold cuts? Yeah, definitely go with the cold cuts and rock that way. Yeah, that I mean, like I had a little a little nibble of yours. Actually, I think I might have nibble of Susser's because you get the same thing. Oh, yeah, we should we should say that. Susser came for a free dinner.

I think I texted you and then Susser added himself to the chain and said, I'm coming. How did you know? But yeah, Susser was there and he had a he had this. He had the same thing that that if he did and I think he also enjoyed it. Yeah, what was the flavor of that pork? Oh, the flavor was good. It was so, you know, it was it was described as caramelized pork. So, you know, that kind of already lets you know you're going to have a little

sweet with some salty in there, which is one of my just favorite flavors. I love chicken and waffles. I love, you know, kettle corn, sweet and salty gets me every time. And it was good. The baguette was wonderful. And I think whenever you have like a sandwich place, that's going to be the what makes or break it right. And yeah, I was all about it.

From start to finish, very delicious, very flavorful. Yeah, I will say that's the thing. And I'm glad you touched on the baguette because I think that is a thing about Lees that I've noticed is pretty consistently the baguette quality tends to be high. Oh, yeah. Which goes a long way with a with a sandwich and they're not that expensive, given that you're getting a 10 inch sandwich. It's not like I feel like a lot of places, if you if you've gotten this,

it would cost like $12, $5. Yeah, I got the Lees combination, which is ham, head, cheese and pate. So, you know, a lot of people and Mitch, you're a little, I know you're a little squeamish about head cheese. I'm not, I'm just not a huge, I'm not going after head cheese right away. I'm normally not. But in this context, in this bond, me, I love it. And this is one of my favorite, like this is my go to when I go to Lees.

It's just such a, especially the pate on there. I feel like it's just such a great combination of flavors. I think they work really well together. And I think they're nicely complimented by all those vegetables they have on there. Love the little bit of jalapeno you get on there. Sometimes I'll squeeze a little sriracha or a little bit of hoisin on it, but for the most part, I'll just kind of have it as it comes. I thought I loved my sandwich.

I thought it was great. But you got yourself the steak special. I did. I got the steak bond me. I liked it a lot. This is actually, we should say that I think that one's not on the regular menu, by the way, that was just like a little special they had. That little special they had and was really, really good.

All of our food kind of came with the first thing I had was the Epstein skateboard. I'm going to move the Epstein skateboard. It's haunting you. I'm handing it to Abba. All right. You want that ghost juice on you? I'm his printer on this. I'm in the Claire.

Oh my God. Yeah, it was it. I my experiences with bond me bond. Me's are limited. I thought it was a really tasty thing. All of our food kind of a lot of the food came at once. Yeah, I didn't try. I didn't try one of those chicken egg rolls until because I had that croissant.

Yeah, I liked and then I had a bite of my sandwich and then I had one of the chicken egg rolls. I had that later. And I and I and so I got to try that the sandwich first, which I really enjoyed. It was good man. Those the all the pickled stuff on there and the in the cilantro. It just it feels like a really fresh sandwich. It doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like I know people make fun of me because

it's a sandwich because I've said this before, but yeah subway. If you get a turkey sandwich, which is I said, oh, it's healthy, but I get it's not like a loaf of bread isn't healthy, but especially with bond me's. There's something about it that feels lighter. No, I got you. Yeah, if you don't feel full in the same way, you don't feel full in the same way. It's greasy and gross. Yeah, it's nice.

And I really, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was really good. I put some sriracha on there as well. I had a good I had a good time with that sandwich. This was a susser pointed this out and I thought this was a good observation that that like he and he never been to least sandwiches. But if you compare this to like a, you know, there's so many food trucks that are just like it's like, oh, it's like a bond me fusion food truck or whatever or

something like that. And it'll, you know, it'll be called like like like bond me there or something. I'll have some sort of pun bond Joe me and and like they like what you get from that is not nearly as good as this. It's just like this authentic version is so much better and they do it well. We also got ourselves a Euro sandwich. Just you know what? It was worth bringing susser along.

He kept us company before you showed up. Jesus. He was eliminated. He got that. That's he got a Hugh bears lemonade. Which we're not sure if it's you bears. Is it Hugh bears or Hubert's? It says Hubert's on it.

And we all asked you why you thought Hubert's. I don't know. Yeah, I definitely has been calling it Hubert this whole time. Maybe it's Hubert's. I'm thinking of chef Hubert Keller. That's what it is. Do you call the same way? Do you call it?

Do you call it Hubert? Hubert. Yeah, I do. He's French, right? Hubert. Oh, I let you jump on blocks. I don't know nothing about Hubert except for. I mean, that's it.

You got it. Except for that. Josh Gad marries him in pixels. Yeah, he marries in a sexual level. Yeah, they fuck. Gad fucks Hubert. Yeah, so we got ourselves just for completionist's sake, a one of the Euro sandwiches.

We got the Euro salami cheese. You can get these on a baguette or a croissant. We got this one on a croissant. Salami, American cheese, lettuce, tomato and mayonnaise on this one. Do you know what? I know what I wish we put on the instructions for this one. What? Deliver right to the trash.

I didn't think this was that bad. I will say that it's not nearly as good as the Bon Mise and there's no reason to go to Elise to have one of the Euro sandwiches. But and this sounds like I'm going to, this sounds like a slam. So maybe feel free to take it that way because it's not like a positive.

But I told Susser if I had gotten in an airport and I had a, I got a salami cheese on croissant and this is what I'm up with, I'd be like, hey, this is fine. You know what I mean? It's not like, it wasn't terrible. Which is not up to the level of the rest of their menu. Yeah.

I didn't, I didn't bother even tasting it just based on, because Mitch was very vocal while he was eating it and just looking at it. I was like, oh yeah, this seems like that, that sandwich you find at a cafe when you're like, I need to get some change out and you're forcing me to buy something. Yeah.

For something that was fresh made, it seemed pre-package. Yeah. But I will say that. Always a great sign. I will say that the croissant was again, not bad. That was, that was the best part of it. And then I also got myself a, we mentioned if he's iced coffee, I got myself an avocado smoothie to sip on.

Which I thought was not bad as, as avocado smoothies go. I mean, they get a bunch of different smoothies you can get there. I realized I should have gotten something more exotic like the green bean smoothie. But I think they do a good, they do a good smoothie there and it's not aggressively sweet, but it's just sweet enough,

especially for that fat rich avocado. Yeah. Someone who tasted it, I definitely agree. I've gotten, I frequent a boba time a lot and they have an avocado smoothie and it is not good. It is, it is just, there's no sweetness to it. Yet somehow it still doesn't taste, it is just all over the place.

Where this one has just that light sweetness that sends that avocado over the top. I was mad at you for this. You wanted me to get something conventional. Yeah. But you're always have to be like, man, the weird one, I'll take the weird one. Well, what do you think that, I mean, this show is like,

we, we want to try things that we wouldn't normally try to get a sense of it. Do we always have to have some fucking bullshit? That's, I mean, it was, it was one thing that you're making you song leave, you song just walked out the door. He's mad that you're yelling at his prized green drink. You know what he loves green tea. Probably does not love avocado drinks.

We do not know that. I'm assuming he likes all green beverages. I don't know about this. You think you think you song is a Mountain Dew guy. I think he does. I think he does the do if he drank, if he took it, if he took a sip of Mountain Dew, he'd be floating off the ground.

Like a hummingbird. Be flying after Clinton, the skateboard. And do I, do I miss everything? I think that's our whole order, right? Yeah, that was the whole order. So yes, we're going to say. No, then I just got out of the, did you know that song rolled to me?

No. The right time to roll to me. What's that? Delmitry. Yes. It's the artist. Yes. I don't know this.

Emma knows it. You would know it if you heard it. You would know it. I'm not, there's no guarantee of that. You rise pretty baby. Oh, okay. I know that part. That song, yeah, yeah.

I was just thinking, the right time to bond me. That's good. Take bond me, take bond me. Guys, there's no shortage of fruit truck ideas. Is it do it one more time so that people have dropped material? I want a sandwich on a baguette and I don't want to add cheese.

A Vietnamese sandwich, baby. The right time for a bond me. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I want to bond me all the time. Bond me all the time. Well, I know your turn. I can't follow that.

Think of a song. You can do it. Okay. Happy birthday, bond me. That's bullshit. Also, I realized this song is happy birthday to you. Not happy birthday to me. I messed that up for you.

It is. Yeah. For me, it's always a song for one. Take my one cupcake with a single candle in it. Blow it out. It used to be a common trope in a movie where someone sat on their birthday and they sing it to themselves.

Oh, yeah. I was like, who you did that to yourself? Why did you buy one cupcake and one candle? You're trying to throw a pity party. Yeah. Hey, one last thing. Yeah. My chips towel joke was good.

Yeah. I didn't say it wasn't good. No, it was really good. You just need to second understand it. It's time for our review of Lee's sandwiches. Wow. Here we go. So, Lee, let's go around.

We'll give this a, give our closing argument on this chain and then give it a rating from zero to five forks. Ify, you are our guest, we will begin with you. All right. Well, like I said, it definitely, it held up with my nostalgia brain. It was as good as I remember. I definitely, the Vietnamese coffee slaps definitely go.

Also, I noticed, I think it's called just regular coffee. I don't think it's, I think it's called ice coffee. I really felt some type of way when I came in and I asked for a Vietnamese coffee and he was like, well, over here, we just call it coffee. But it's, it's a style and I'm not crazy. So, but it was delicious. I think you could pass on the Euro sandwich.

But I mean, you're like, if you go for the Euro sandwich, you're the guy who's ordering the Burger King tacos. You know, yeah, sure. So I'm not going to dock them for that. I'm going to only champion that. Not only is their bond me pretty solid, it's the only fast food bond me place that we know of. So that reason and that reason alone

is why I got to give it a five out of five four. Wow, holy shit. Wow. Coming in hot. Yeah. Mike Mitchell. Oh man. I don't know what to do.

This threw me off big time. I thought, I thought, I thought you were going to go. Now I got. Do you want me to go? Sure. You gather your stuff. Yeah, you go to. Yes, you go.

Well, also, Nick, yes, tell everyone what Natalie thinks about this. So here's the thing. And now these mom's size of the family is is Vietnamese. I'd say she knows a ton about Vietnamese food has taken me some of the best Vietnamese food of two, taking me to the best Vietnamese food. I don't need to qualify it.

The best Vietnamese food I've ever had in my life knows a ton of places and little Saigon and elsewhere. I went to Saigon sandwich and San Francisco speaking specifically of bond me, which is just like literally a hole in the wall. It's across the street from Elise sandwiches, but there's a line line out the door at Saigon sandwich. It's I said literally a whole wall.

It's not a literal hole in the wall, but it's just the storefront. And and it's very, very small. There's like three chairs inside. And I got a bond. We got a got a pork meatball bond me there. And it was fucking fantastic. It was so good.

It was so much better than anything you would get at least sandwiches. And I think Natalie views this chain through that prism. I'm not going to, you know, I certainly understand her perspective of she's just like, there's so much better bond me's out there. And so for me, I'd never go there. I'd never have a reason to if I wanted to bond me

and also Vietnamese food again, is so much more than bond me. But I am at me viewing it as someone who did not grow up with Vietnamese food and just know, and as this is a chain that is just, it's also the chain version of bond me. It's like the subway of bond me's. I think for what it does,

I think for its scale and its scope, I think it does an excellent job. I would have gotten a coffee if we weren't there so late at night. If I have caffeine after three o'clock, I can't sleep. But I normally do get a Vietnamese coffee there or just, I apologize, a coffee there. And it is great.

The pad day show that I mentioned is delightful. Even Natalie's a skeptic of this place loves it. The bond me's, I think, are great for a chain version. For that reason, I'm not going to go five forks, but I'm going to get close. Four forks for Lee's sandwiches. Wow, heat. Mitch, trust your gut.

Don't feel obligated to push this one direction or the other. I want you to say what's in your heart. We will fight you. Jesus, if you will kick my ass. Well, if you will, I'll cheer. I wouldn't worry about you. Yeah, I wouldn't worry about you. I'd worry about you eating my ass, but you're not a millennial.

So I guess that you're safe. Um, hmm, shit. This is, this is, this is, this is hard. I, uh, by the way, do you want some other scores for to help guide yourself? By the, by the way, you're, it sounded when you said Vietnamese coffee again, it sounded like a fake apology when you said that there. It sounded a little foxy this year. Yeah, it's not a little.

Sorry for saying Vietnamese coffee. It's not a little lot of people were offended by that for some reason. It sounded this. Oh, Mary Christmas. Uh, Susser, Susser texted me that he would give this four forks and fuck that. But Natalie says she'd put it somewhere in the two fork range with a, with a little, maybe push a little higher because the catering is well,

while you think I'm a look Natalie's great. Yeah. But she's doing the thing that I feel a lot of people do where it's like, like where it's like, ah, you know, McDonald's is good, but you know, it doesn't hold a candle to burger lords. And it's like, it doesn't though. Right. It's, it's like, we should judge it as a fast.

That's true. That's true. I, you're right. You're, you're, if you're right, I, this is just hard for me. I don't want to disappoint you. You're not disappointing anybody. Most of our listeners don't know what Lee's sandwiches is. They're learning about it for the first time.

They don't have any biases toward it. You should say what's in your heart. What will disappoint people is if you're not honest. My microphone ball smells. What have you been doing? I'm smelling them. No, Emma. No, Emma, don't get something from your job.

Jesus. It's not your fault that I take them out and suck on them. Everyone's gone. You can clean up. Look, man, we only have so much time on this blue marble, man. You know what I mean? Oh boy. Okay.

It's a new character. Just go. It's good. Oh man. I, I, I can't give it four four because I'm just going to say that right now. I think that the sandwich is so good. I think that the Bami sandwich was very, very, very, very, very good.

I need, I need, I think I might need to follow up on Lee's sandwich. I want to go to a different location. I want to go there when it's the hours are normal. We did to go to kind of a, I'd characterize it as a dingy location. Yes. A dingy location at, at closing. Closing time, closing and it's competing with an in and out. So they, they're not, the morale is low.

So the sandwich alone, the sandwich alone, that's a four forker. Sandwich, the rest of the experience was I had to die. Coke to just to let everybody know the, the, the, the other things I tried were not for fork level. Sure. And it, and it brings the score down. I'm going to say 3.75 forks, Nick. Wow.

Very close because that sandwich is good and I, and I do feel bad. I would, I would like to go to a Lee sandwich. I would like to go again. I think that this is an inconclusive. I think this is a incomplete. Oh, you're giving it an eye. It's hard for me. I mean, it's like me in college.

Nicholas F gets an eye. Yeah, it's I, I, I appreciate your love for it and this also makes me want to give it an right for forker and I really have to. I think I have to give it an incomplete because I think that the circumstances, but I have to go by that. Nick, right the sandwich was so very good, but yeah, no, I, I, I, I, I can't, I can't. It doesn't make the full forks yet yet, but it could.

You're fair to weigh all these factors yet. I think 3.75 is a very good score. Nick, we have a history with the restaurant. So we know how good it can be. Yes. But you need to go and get that spring roll, follow that bad boy up with a, with another one of those forker sandwiches and then end it strong with the delicious pastry that's actually available.

Yes. And if we had, if we had fresh egg rolls, I mean, there's, there's, there's, there's a lot of factors here that could have. Yeah, but anyways, I agree with you. It was worth it to introduce my new character. Yeah. That was biker guy. That was biker guy.

Yeah. Bike Mitchell. Okay. How people are going to ask you to do bike Mitchell? It shows. Sure thing, brother. 3.75. 3.75 forks.

Wow. Very good. It's very, you know, still a good score. That was hard. That was hard. If I appreciate your love for it and I, and I get how good the sandwich is, but I, but I, I, I did not get that full experience there. I mean, we all know the one we went to was a hundred percent washed.

Yeah. So. Yeah. I want to, I want to try it again, Nick. I think we might have to do a revisited of this, of this, of this place. I'll go back with you at any time. And hey, that was our review of Lisa, which is, it's time for a segment

from doughboys media studios on Palmerston. This is serial, a segment told one bowl at a time. This is an incoming call from cup and crunch. I walked in and count chocolate was covered in blood. I was thinking a lot about this bowl of cereal didn't add up. Okay. So, holy Jesus.

So we've got some serial bars, Mitch. And these are, these are courtesy. In that scenario, shouldn't it be the cookie crisp guys behind bars? Oh yeah. What did I say? No, no, you said Captain Crunch, but I like that. Oh yeah. But I like the cookie crisp guy being like falsely accused in being in jail.

Yeah. That's true. That probably would have been better. He's the kind of guy who would get, but you know, could they don't even have the cookie crisp? I guess they decided having a criminal as their mascot was something that was an association they didn't want to have any hour. And they now have a cookie crisp wolf.

Yeah. You see that wolf? Cookie crisp. Yeah. That's, you know. Who used to say that? I do. Your voice.

You're the wolf. You're the wolf. Congratulations. If you're going to say, should have brought that up very early on in the food podcast. It's exciting though. Yeah. You know, big, big, big things ahead for me and Wolfie. We're definitely doing like they're, this new campaign definitely is trying to mirror

what kids are seeing today. So we are doing an Epstein angle. It's very bold for a cereal brand targeted children to cover Jeffrey Epstein. But you know, I kind of admire him for it. I do too. Mitch. So we, these are courtesy of our Nick. You are, you are, you are team Epstein is innocent.

Innocent and killing himself. Someone fucking whacked him. Wow. These are courtesy of our good buddy, Super Dave Solinger, who's a listener and is, we've also worked with him a great dude and he gave us the, yes, I was a crisper. He, these crispy cakes. I gave, he gave me these on the set of I'm going to announce that I'm on.

Can you say that? I don't even know if I can. I don't know. We can, we'll censor, we'll censor the name of the thing. I think it's fine if you say this as if you're not on a wildly popular. You can say that on candy dinner. You can come on candy dinner and say that you can't get away with that on this one. I think it's fine.

Wiger. This is his parents company. Wow. But he, his, his mom and dad's company, but he told me to not, to, to not go easy on it, to be, uh, to really, so to, to rate these really like we would. Well, yeah, judging by how you fucking raked Lee sandwiches over the cold, freaked. What the hell tear the crispery a new asshole.

So we've got, uh, we've got cookies and cream. These are like, that's, that's the big Hollywood project you were talking about, about, uh, which by the way, you're working on a project that you can't even say you're the big Hollywood hot shot. Well, that's not, I mean, that doesn't make it big. It just makes it unannounced. That means it's just more likely to be canceled. Maybe unannounced.

I just said it. Oh yeah. Yeah, we might have to beat that. So the, uh, these, these are basically you plus stop rice, crispies. We've got a plain and sweet. We've got a cookies and cream and we've got a cocoa concoction. I guess you know what? We're just going to distribute these if y'all have cookies and cream.

Here's the thing with the cookies and cream. I want to take it. I want to take a bite of that Oreo like cookie. Okay. That's, that is my one demand. I'll split in that. Yes. All right.

Thank you, Ivy. I'm going to try to take some picks as we unwrap this apologies for the, for the crinkling papers. I know that disrupts some people. Do you want to take a picture of them first? Let me, let me grab some, some shots real quick. Let me, let me pop that bad boy open. Oh, thanks, ify.

Look at that. Yeah. That's good. I got you. I got you over here. Okay. Mitch is taking a pick over there. And, uh, so, uh, these bad, this is, this is crazy.

Oh yeah. These are thick. The, these are really thick. The density. Hold on. This is getting real. Should we just take bites of the corners or no? Oh, wow.

If you, if he's tearing into this, I will rip it in half every time. As I was trying to take a picture, I accidentally turned this, uh, this camera into selfie mode. Boy, what a fucking nightmare. I'm going to, Nick, I'm going to take a big bite into the, into the, into the center of this. Lager. Yeah. Go for it.

I'm taking, taking a piece. Thank you. Ify, if he's handing me a piece of the cookies and cream one, um, there you go. And then, uh, if you want to send the cocoa concoction over here when you get a chance. I want to point out to the people at home, we can't see this. Nick took the most tiny, like, considerate piece and I took a monstrous bite as if I was one of the mon stars. This, I'm happy with it.

I'm going to, I'm just going to say Super Dave. Wow. Yeah. This is, this is very good Super Dave. I'm just having the plain one. I just took a dainty bite because I am so conscious of my own, uh, uh, my own lard assness right now. But the, this is, this is very good. Just having the, the plain one, I'm going to, to dig into the, the texture is really good.

And the, um, the, it's got like a good crunch to it, but also like very, very moist. Thank you, ify. I'm handling the cocoa concoction right one right now. This looks like it's made with the cocoa version of the crispies with a little layer of chocolate in the middle. I might, I might need to have another bite of that one. I'm going to take a bite of that. Truly for review sake.

Yeah. Wow. That's great. This one has a lot of marshmallow, which I think really helps it because it's, it would otherwise be overpowered by chocolate. It's really good. Um, the little ribbon of chocolate, and I can't tell, is it just like a, like kind of a milk chocolate frosting kind of in the middle, whatever that is, is quite nice.

These rule. No, it seems like it might be chocolate marshmallow. Oh, that's what it is. It's like a chocolate fluff. Mitch, have you, have, have, or have either of you guys had the cookies and cream one yet? Uh huh. Oh yeah. How is it?

It's very, like the cookies and cream midpoint is very crunchy and it, it kind of disrupts the mouthfeel in a good way. Big fan. Right. And it actually has, in addition to that cookie that's on top, it's got some cookie bits, kind of a, and some, some of the cookie cream in the middle of it, just kind of jammed in there. These are also, these are, and we talked about how thick they are, but really when you're taking a bite out of them, it's, it's like, these are like, this is like a burger thick.

This is like a very, very thick, uh, very, very thick Rice Krispie Street. These are all good. I like every single one of them. I'm just eating the cookies and cream one. I don't even care about the show anymore. It's delicious. I never cared about the show. So the issue here is that.

I care about the show. We both care about the show. The issue here is that I think people are going to be like, oh, this is your friend's thing. This is essentially branded content. But first of all, the dough boys can't be bought. And second of all, I don't care about my personal relationships. I'll fucking burn a bridge like that. If I don't like 100% true.

So I don't know Dave. I'll start a beef with him right now. We beefing, but I still like these Krispy Kakes. Yeah, these are the, I will say these are, this is legitimately great. These are delicious desserts. So he told me, he told me the chocolate the krispree.com. That's all good. I think I might put chocolate is my favorite.

Really? Yeah. And I have a piece over here. Either you eat that or give it to Evie. Thanks, buddy. I had so much. I'm such a fucking fat ass. Yeah, we both are.

Fucking up. I would say if you get these, I would recommend using knives instead of trying to hulk them apart. Honestly, yeah. My fingers are. It's a little messy. We got through. My fingers are jack off sticky right now.

Oh my God. Well, I mean, you're adding, you're adding the rice Krispy stickiness onto your already jacked off fingers. Yeah, actually, I'm really, that's a warning on the krispree's label. Like, yeah, fingers make it jack off sticky. So and then it shows the guy with the finger in his mouth. And he's smiling. It's Dave.

Fuck Dave. I do hope they do quote the podcast on the boxes and it's like Mitch, something delicious and then Nick jack off. Sticky. You want to hear my ranking? Yes. One, cookies and cream. Two, the cocoa, the cocoa one.

The chocolate on the cocoa one is like that's why I had to have another taste of it. It's surprising. It's like very almost like fudgy. It's like a like a different taste than I expected. Right. And then last I still like it is the playing kind of rice. It's they're not rice krispies, but the regular treat just because the other two

are more enjoyable to me. Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, a lot of times the base version will be like, you know, my favorite because I just sometimes like just like the simplicity of a well designed treat or or sandwich or what have you. But here I think the the add-ons work. I'd say cocoa first for me, then cookies and cream, but it's pretty tight and then bringing up the rear in fruit with the bronze.

I'd give the original. Effie, how would you rank these? I'd say I'd go with Mitch cookies and cream first, then the chocolate, then the plain, but it's yeah, it's here's the thing. Whenever you buy any like rice crispy treat from a coffee shop or Starbucks, the main complaint for me is just how kind of dry it is. Yes. And like this is just super moist.

It's super sticky. The whole eating experience is super fun and delicious. Yeah, big, big, big endorsement of these the crisper.com if you'd like to try them. Here's what I think. Yeah. The plain one. The issue is sorry, I'm eating as I do this. The issue is that you're going up against the rice crispy treat.

That's true. Oh, yeah. And that's it's just a hard it's just so dominant. It's an established taste that everyone has in their brain. It's established. This is it's very different from that. So, so I sure it's still good. I enjoyed it.

But the other ones that have flavor in it, the cocoa one and the cookies and cream, that just adds something that rice crispy treats don't. I know that they have like different versions of them. But yeah, it doesn't touch this. This is this is great. Hey, that was us. That was our cereal segment, just like a restaurant. Very feedback.

Let's open up the feedback and we got a voicemail this week. Let me go ahead and play this bad boy. Here we go. Hey, dead boys. Name is AJ longtime fan. So, I just wanted to ask chips are the best appetizer because they go with everything. What would you guys pick out of guacamole, salsa, or queso to dip your chips in? Have a good day.

Thanks, AJ. What a fun, you know, what this was a wild ride of a voicemail one because right off the gate did not agree. But then we big swing. Big swing. Chips the best. Do you say appetizer? The best appetizer.

Up against jalapeno poppers up against bacon wrap dates. But then I was like, all right, I'm going to go inside this world. Yeah. And then it was like guacamole. I was like, I've probably going to be guacamole. And then he's like salsa. I was like, it's definitely going to be. Then he brought queso in there and then it got hard.

Yeah. Get kind of hard. It's tricky. I would say, you know, like all things, it's quality contingent. I think there's the least quality variance in a salsa. I feel like you're most likely to get, like even, even though a very basic restaurant, even like a Chili's, you're very likely to get a decent or acceptable salsa. And I feel like the highest degree of difficulty is that queso because I've had some bad quesos,

but you'll sometimes have a fantastic queso. Bad case of the quesos. Oh boy, that's, that's, that's the worst. I would say that. That was more of a comment than a joke, I guess. Yeah. That's what, I mean, that's supposed to what we both of us say. We can fall back on that at any point.

More of a comment than a joke. So I, yeah, I don't know. I think I might say, first of all, again, insane AJ to say chips are the best appetizer, but I admire it. I just, I admire the take, but it's, it's insane that you came in hot with that and didn't even like give us ground. He's calling from a fucking padded room, I'm sure. Do you think it's AJ Soprano?

That's probably AJ Soprano. Still not sure what happened to his dad in the finale. I think that I would say, I think I'm going guac, even though I like queso a lot. I just feel like guac is more likely to be solid and there's some great salsas, but I feel like most of the times when you're just having chips and salsa, I feel like the salsa is never going to be mind blowing, even though it'll very often be solid. It sucks that you're wrong. I mean, you got it wrong.

Explain how you got third. You picked the third block is not third place. That's insane. Yeah, no. Yeah. So what's your first place? Let's just jump to that. How am I going to get roasted?

My number one is salsa. What's the number one? How? Because gypsum salsa, you can't beat it. Okay, Nick. It's a good snack, but I need two ways to beat it in the question. I don't know what you're talking about. If you look, I do not want to piss you off.

We do not. We do not want to go at each other. It will be a clash of tightness. I my thing with look. Yes, I agree with you that salsa, but like when I'm in a like a Mexican restaurant and there is good salsa and the chips and salsa are flowing. I just I think that's my favorite all. I like guac.

I like to have a little bit of guac and I like to and I like case. So but both of them I would I could have much more chips and salsa. I just enjoy it more. Sure. Yeah. You could have more of it because it's just like I but I mean because it's less rich. If I had if I had a like of these three, two of them will be taken off the world for they'll be gone forever.

I think I would go guac in case. So I think I would have to keep you keep salsa. I keep salsa. That doesn't mean by the way that doesn't mean cheese is gone forever just to be clear. I just like I don't know. I just feel like it's chips and salsa even an appetizer because I feel like I'm in a context where I'm charged for chips and salsa. I'm mad about it.

Oh yeah. Chips and salsa should be free. But if like if it's like, hey, we got a nice queso here. We got a good good house guac. We'll make table side. Then I'll pay a little premium for that and I'm okay with about it. How many are you? You seem pissed.

I'm pissed off. That's you did just enter this conversation with the wildest take. Like you chose the thing that you walk into any Mexican restaurant will be waiting for you at the table. It's not a question. It's something you mindlessly munch on with me. It's also like not going to be salsa because if I'm eating salsa, it just makes me want the next thing.

Like, oh, what do I pay for to get something better? Queso is interesting to me. It's great. It's very delicious. I think that margin of error is there and I think guac has the same margin of error, but lots of times it's like they just don't put enough salt, which usually is remedied by the saltiness of the tortilla chips you're using. Yeah.

So I'm also going to have to say it's a guac for me too. It's a guac. Wow. I would say Emma, do you have a preference salsa guac queso? I think guac is probably my first and then salsa then queso. Wow. That's a week. All right.

Mitch, you're on an island by yourself. Guac the vote. That was good. That was good. Let us know your preference, guac, salsa, or queso, hashtag guac the vote, but don't let that tilt you towards guac. Say what you really feel. It's not going to tilt people towards guac.

All right. Don't say not hashtag guac the vote. We'll say hashtag chip tile was a good joke. Let us know guac, salsa, or queso, or a writing candidate. Whatever you think you feel like is the best chip companion. If he might take surprise you, just know that I'm a fool, a dunce. Enignoramus. I don't know if you've ever listened to this show.

You would never say that to me. You'd only say that to a guest. Yeah, no shit. Because you think you are better than me, piece of shit. I'm an elitist. I don't say I'm an elitist. You think you. That's probably what was in your head just now.

My internal monologue is not to be saying I'm an elitist. I think it's something new. You're boring. Fuck. If you have a question or comment about the world chain restaurants, you can email us at dobayspodcast at gmail.com, or you can leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-463-6844.

You can get on the podcast like AJ just did. And hey, to get the Doughboys double or weekly bonus episode, join the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash Doughboys. And hey, if you're in the Platinum Play Club, we now have our Dough Squad. You can chat in the Discord with other Platinum Play Club members and Mitch and myself on occasion. I got to get in there.

You got to get in there more. People are calling for you in the Dough Squad. I don't like you being in there. That's my main issue. That's usually why I take off. So we always leave your own apartment after records. Just need to get out of here. I'm out.

If you want to wait, thank you so much for joining us. A delight to discuss Lee's sandwiches with you, and we'll have to have you back. Do you have anything you would like to plug at this time? Yeah, yeah, definitely like those podcasts you heard. Candy Dinner on Mondays, Nerdificent on Tuesdays, Who Shot You on Fridays, and to all the Doughbros that showed up in the Twitch,

definitely see your boy twitch.tv slash iftees. Keep the conversation going. Yeah, a lot of y'all pulled up after the last on the Patreon episode. Thanks coming through, dropping the Twitch Prime subs. Truly appreciate all the love y'all gave me. And big shout out to the Doughbro I saw at the Eagle Rock, or not the Eagle Rock, the Highland Park Target. Wow, hell yeah.

I was walking around in a Doughboy shirt. I saw you. I don't know if you recognize me or not, but you know, I was definitely hovering you for a bit. I was deciding whether or not to take a picture of a stranger and send it to my friends, and decided against it. Did he have a shopping cart filled with gravy? No, I definitely would have took a picture if he did.

That'll do for this episode of Doughboys. And until next time, for Mike Spoon Mitchell, I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating. See ya. On the next Doughboys Double, me talking Talica to you, me equals Weiger, you equals Mitch. Who is me? I walk Mitch through Metallica's Thrash Metal debut album,

Kill'em All. Plus, we eat some sandwiches from local metal-themed burger joint, Grill'em All. Get the Doughboys Double every Tuesday only at patreon.com slash Doughboys. That was a hate gum podcast.