Doughboys - Mendocino Farms with Avital Ash

Episode Date: August 12, 2021

Avital Ash (Cake, Antisocial Distance) joins the 'boys to discuss kosher eats and Letterboxd before a review of Mendocino Farms. Plus, a McDonald's edition of Jingle All The Whey.Sources for this week's intro:https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-himi-mendocino-farms-20160923-snap-story.htmlhttps://www.thrillist.com/eat/los-angeles/things-you-didnt-know-about-mendocino-farmshttps://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/financing/mendocino-farms-rolls-changeshttps://www.mendocinofarms.com/our-story/Commercials featured in the Jingle All The Whey segment:Summer SongIt's A Good Time For The Great Taste of McDonald'sGurakoro BurgerMcDonald's & You - BreakfastDo You Believe In Magic?Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Skews Teriyaki. This long-forgotten microchain formed the foundation for one of the emerging powers in fast-casual dining. In 2000, Mario Del Perro, the owner of Skews, attracted a new investor, Ellen Chen, via a mutual friend. And this attraction would soon become personal as the two dated and later married. Skews continued chugging along,

growing to three Los Angeles area locations at its height. But the now doubly partnered Del Perro and Chen thought their bento box concept was too niche to become a true hit. And so they conceived a new concept centered on two emerging trends, fast-casual and farm-to-table. Opening their first store in 2005 in downtown LA,

across the street from a Skews in the husk of a shuttered Starbucks, their new sandwich shop had a sweet spot between budget hoagies and artisan deli. Later described by restaurant business writer Jonathan Maze as, quote, an upscale Panera bread without breakfast, end quote. The eatery was a quick hit with a work lunch crowd

and Skews was sold off as Del Perro and Chen went all in on the sandwich shop. Though the sandwiches are still meant to be the star, in carb-conscious California, entre-sized salads comprise a quarter of their revenue. Named after a rural county in Northern California to emphasize the company's connection to local agriculture,

the chain doesn't actually have any restaurants in said county. But it does now have about 30 locations and major centers of habitation across the Golden State and now in the Lone Star State. And as at least superficially healthy eating continues to grow in popularity, it's likely we'll see further expansion of the empire

founded by the husband or wife team that brought you Skews. This week on Doe Boys, Mendocino Farms. ["Mendocino Farms Theme Song"] Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger along with my co-host, Charleston Achoo, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. This is because I sneezed on the podcast once? That's courtesy of Brad, he writes,

"'Because Mitch is notoriously an on-mic sneezer as evident in the Chris Gethard Coke Freestyle episode, roastspoonman at gmail.com.'" Dear God, we could have just edited that out now and I'm gonna sneeze. They're gonna call me fucking sneezer. I think you need a sneeze-related nickname to go with the Spoon Man and Mr. Slice.

No, I'm not gonna give myself a sneeze nickname. Ebba, Sneezer, Snooge. You're trying to call me Scrooge? I love Christmas. I love celebrating Christmas. What are you, you don't even see your family on Christmas. You've told me this before. I've seen my family on Christmas in the past.

Yeah, when you were a child. Yeah, you know, when I'd wake up in my childhood bed and there'd be presents waiting for me, I'd retrieve them and go back to my Super Nintendo. God, what sort of presents did you get on fucking Christmas morning? I'm scared to think of it. I got conventional presents.

I was a boy. I got what boys like, which are video games and toys. Plain blocks with nothing on them, just wood blocks with nothing on them. Beige construction paper. Just empty boxes, the wrapping in the box is enough for you. Unsharpened pencils. I'm going to keep them this way.

Why? Speaking of video games, I beat Skyward Sword last night. You told me this and I was staggered. You don't bear the lead here, Mitch. You didn't just beat this game. You won 100% of it. 100% of it.

Look, this is pathetic for like a 40 year old man. I've honestly never admired you more, so. Hey, you want to hear my impression of Zelda characters, like the characters in the world? Yeah. All right, here it goes. Hey! There it is.

That's pretty good. And then here's another one. Oh! There we go. I don't know why I can't do these sorts of impressions at open mic nights, and people aren't on board with them, Wags. You had a whole thing in your SNL character reel

about all your Zelda character impressions. Goron on there, some Rideau. I loved it. Mr. Michaels, this I think you will know is Goron. Any Goron in particular? I wanted to see Pippet. You gave me Gorko. Gorko?

We found out that Gorko's planet that I was pulling that from Zelda, which was not intentional, but Gorko's. This was a joke you did on The Doe Boyz Double to make fun of the show I wrote on Earth to Ned. You called it Gorko's Planet. I was not making fun of it. Well, then you were inaccurately

characterizing the show I worked on. And you know what, he was in Skyward Sword, so I definitely- You were subconsciously pulling it from Skyward Sword. You were that deep in it. Yeah, give me Gorko's Planet. I want to see his a Goron. I should have done that for Lorne.

You should be that role. That should be you. Honestly, I'm looking at a JPEG of Gorko right now, and honestly, you should soon Nintendo for likeness rights. I don't eat fucking rocks or whatever the fuck they do. I'm just wondering who this conversation appeals to. Like inside comedy, SNL auditions, in fucking Zelda characters from Skyward Sword.

The game that, look, by the way, I thought it was a great game. The controls are wonky, but it's great. I loved it. I think it's a five-star game. I had it on Wii. It's great. Five-star game, wow.

I had it on Wii, and I kind of bounced off of it because it had the Wee Motion Plus controls, and they just never really clicked for me. And also it's a little- Is that why you called your Wii remote was the Weigel? It was an extension of me. No, but also it's just like, it's filled with so much. I think they cut down a lot of the expository text

and a lot of the, you know, there's a lot of like bloat in that game that I think they got rid of in the remaster. I haven't played yet, but I've heard it's awesome. And good for you, Mitch, that's great. I don't like holding the Wii remote, size-NV sort of deal. All right, let's introduce our guests.

They've been waiting for far too long. Oh, wait! You have a drop! I just did it, hold on, I'm doing it. How do you know? To Spoon Nation, ugh. And here, Weigels, is a tiny, now anytime you hear me kind of like stretch this out

of like, here you go, Weigels, here's a tiny little, it's because I am, look, I'm looking up drops. Oh, by the way, just went to Spoonman Drops, clicked on approved drops. The folder's empty, so Drop King is fucked up. Or just no one's sending anything approval-worthy. That's what it is. There might not be a drop good enough

to be played this week. Might finally have happened. This is gonna be a dropless week? It could be. Wow, all right. I'm sure listeners would be okay with that. Listeners, podcasts listeners like it when you shake up the format.

There's also, there's two in the trash. What the fuck is he throwing away? I don't know. He just threw away some fucking, he threw some away. You know what he thinks in there? The missing Nixon tapes. I'll hereby order Watergate to take place. Me, Richard Nixon, my vice president is Spiro Agnew.

I am a crook. Well, get this, incriminating as hell. My favorite Goron is Goraco. This can never get out. I have the drop if you need it. Did you find it? I did the classic, quit my email and then opened it back up. Okay, great.

So here we go, Wikes. Here it comes. Thank you, Emma. Here it goes. A classic little, we'll edit some of this, but maybe not, maybe not all of it. There we go, all right, here we go. A classic time for a little tiny little drop, Wikes.

Here it is. Ha ha ha ha. ["Dow Boys"] Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. Doe Boys, meet the Doe Boys. They both work in LA comedy. Then they made a podcast, slowly killing themselves with Wendy's.

One day, maybe Mitchell win the fight. Nick will admit that your case of highs. When you're with the Doe Boys, have an uninvited sus time, and I wrote true time. Nick Weigher hates all fries. You song, what the fuck? Wow.

Wow. I like that. I was so confused because I heard this guy's voice and I was like, is that me or you at first? I didn't know who it was. Just like a fucking meaty, like a thick throated. Yeah, I mean, that's our listenership. Yeah.

You've been to our meet and greets. It's guys that look like you and guys that look like me and everything in between. Look, we got this email so long to, God damn it. All right, we gotta introduce our guests, but I'm gonna get the speed through this to you. I gotta give credit. I forgot to give credit the other day,

people got mad at me. I forget who it was, and now I forget who it was. But fuck you. Anyway. Hahaha. Dear Spoon Man, AKA Mr. Slice, Weiger, Emmer, Emmer, You Song's Ghost in Drop King, Robert Persinger.

Here's a drop I made, even though I categorically cannot sing to save my life. These are the lyrics just in case you can't hear them at all. Doughboys meet the Doughboys. Doughboys meet the Doughboys. They both worked in LA comedy, worked. Why is the past tense? I mean.

Then they made a podcast, slowly killing themselves with Wahandese. One day, maybe Mitch will win the fight. Nick will admit that cupcakes are pies. Oh boy. When you're with the Doughboys, have an uninvited suss time, an eye-road crude time.

Nick Weiger hates all fries. I really wanted to end with, hey ma, in place of Wilma, but couldn't find suitable audio. You couldn't find suitable audio of Fred Flintstone? Oh, of me doing it, I guess. Of you saying that. I'm over in the UK and before the pandemic,

Dine and Pizza Hut parlors did still exist here with a lunch buffet that would set you back about 10 bucks. And it used to be the perfect hangover cure. They're getting less and less common, though, and I wonder if they'll ever come back at all now. Thanks, COVID. Thanks for all the laughs. Stewart.

Stewart, Stewart from England. Hmm, who could that be? Stewart from England. Hmm, Stewart from England, who could that be? Not Rod Stewart. Wasn't there a, was there a, isn't there a, isn't there a, oh, it's the mad TV character is Stewart, right? He's not from England.

Yes, no, no, he's not from England. It's like a little boy. Mike Myers, Mike Myers did Simon and he's a little English boy, isn't he? Yes. Damn, close, close, Stewart. Stewart, very close. Stewart, you can't possibly be referring

to the Stewart period of England, which took place from 1603 to 1714. Wow, right off the dome. Let's get our guests in here for God's sakes. We've wasted way, way, way too much of our time. Very, very, very happy to have this week's guest, an actor, writer, and director, and stand-up from Cake on FX.

You can watch her series, Anti-Social Distance at antisocialdistance.com. Avital Ash is here. Hi, Abby Tom. Hi, thank you for having me. I had a moment of panic when you said Avital. I was like, oh, we went over it before and he knew it, but then we went over it before

and I just mispronounced it. I'll retake it. I was going to make fun of him for this. But then in the next breath, you got it. You said Avital Ash, Avital, like you went super wrong. I knew I'd made my mistake and I corrected it, but I was like, I kind of spread through it. Yeah, you could have played it off as a joke.

Well, you used to be in common. It's not really our style. It sounded like you said the Beatles, basically. You fucked up really bad. I had England on the brain. I understand. That's what it was. That's what it was.

It was Anthony Stewart head. Avital, thank you so much for being here. You are from Miami Beach I was reading. That's correct. I've been here in Los Angeles for ages, but I am from Miami Beach. Wow. OK, so I'm not sure how much time you spent there,

but in Miami Beach, were you there long enough to form food memories? I was, but here's the thing. I grew up Orthodox Jewish, so we didn't eat anything. Yeah, only kosher restaurants growing up, which is crazy, because it's all about the Cuban food, so I never had that. There is some great sushi that I know I've been back and had, but once, I don't really go back.

We actually, my brothers and I, talk about how we learned only recently. So there was a kosher pizza place. It was originally called Shimmy's, and then it became Shemtov's, both just Jewish names, the owner, I think changed, so they reflected the name. And it was a pizza place, but they would also serve fries. And it wasn't until the last couple of years

that we realized that burgers and fries are a thing, and pizza and fries aren't, because for some reason, in the kosher world, that was the thing, pizza and fries. And it took my brother pointing it out to be like, oh, yeah, I guess that isn't, they don't surprise a pizza anywhere else, I had no idea. So why that? It's a good combo. It is. I wonder why that is?

Like, and the pizza, is it like a kosher pizza? Is it like a pizza that is the common understanding of pizza, I'm sorry if that's a naive question. No, no, it's all about it being watched, right? So I think pizza anywhere could essentially be kosher, but if you're strict, then if I'm getting pizza that also serves pepperoni pizza, because you can't mix meat and milk,

then that establishment isn't kosher, because they have meat in a dairy facility. So we had even separate dishes for milk versus meat, or parov, which is neutral. You could have on either plate. Oh, wow. It's very complicated. I grew up very religious. Did that carry over at all?

Was that an avatar? Do you still, are you still like eating that way at all, or is it with family, or what? Like a... I think there are some carryovers. Well, I don't eat pig, but I have had it, and I think it's very delicious, but I love pigs. Like I love dogs and cats, and pigs are really high up there.

So I won't eat them. I feel similarly about cows, but I think that I still eat them. I think vegans are on the right side of history. But you know, there's probably an element, like I've never had lobster, they're boiled alive, I have a problem with that, but they're also not kosher. So maybe it's, maybe some of it is from that. When did you break away from eating?

Was it a thing of like, you got to college, and you're like, all right, I'm gonna do my own thing, or was it even in high school or before that, or what? I, well, I didn't go to college, fun fact. I did, I remember having... Oh shit, sorry. Good, college is bad, sorry for assuming that. I'm uneducated.

I had, I remember having like, pretty drunk in high school, having vegetarian Taco Bell. So I was like, branching out and having non-kosher stuff, but I wasn't like, having trayf is what they'd call it, where it's like, extremely not kosher. That's a weird. Wait, what's the word, trayf? Yeah, trayf would be like, pork or shellfish,

versus like, a salad from a non-kosher restaurant, kind of a thing, like. Okay. Yeah, so there's like, degrees. So I was having, like, I still love Taco Bell, I think in the email to you guys, I was like, I could do Taco Bell, I only do vegetarian stuff, but I still just love it.

And then I, even when I moved out here, I like, I stayed fairly religious out of fear for a while, and it took me like, seeing a therapist who kind of helped me like, transition out of it. And then eventually I had roommates making bacon, and I was like, all right, I'm gonna just try it. Wow. Wow. What did you think?

What was like, so as an adult, you had bacon for the first time, basically. It was good. I've had, you know, better and worse bacon. And then I, the last time I had any kind of pig, was like a pulled pork sandwich, and it was so good. And I still, like, I couldn't stop thinking about the pigs. And so I was like, all right, I guess I'm just done.

I love them. I've kind of gone in that boat these days. I've followed a lot of like, you know, checking out a lot of pig gifts, following pigs on Instagram, you know. They're so cute. They're cute as shit. They're so fucking cute.

They are. They're smart. Yeah. I have a hard time like, mentally separating outside of the deliciousness of their meat. And I've never had dog meat, but I have a hard time separating them from dogs and pigs because they seem like the same sort of category of intelligence and affection and cuddliness.

Yeah, they're smarter. I've never had dog meat. It sounds like a thing someone who hasn't had dog meat would say, you fucking freak. I would never eat a Labradoodle burger. I would never in a million years have a pug sandwich. I do think if it was like acceptable here, it's not that different from eating pig.

It's just not socially acceptable. Yeah, I would. It's intelligent level, like they're both like, yeah. Pigs are even smarter than dogs, supposedly. I don't think about any of that stuff, but I love bacon, but besides that, I'm not like crazy. I don't go nuts over pulled pork.

We talked about it. I don't love ham that much wise. I mean, like I'm fine with it. And then, but like pig, I don't really want to eat pig outside of... Bacon. Mostly bacon, yeah. Right.

What do you think of bacon-substitutes? Do you like any of them? I don't know. I don't know if I've ever tried any. You know, it's funny, it's funny because when I was in college, when I was at Ithaca, there was a kosher kitchen. And I remember like, I was like,

ooh, this stuff looks good. And I was grabbing it and I went to my table and someone was like, you know, that's like kosher food for people who eat kosher. And I was like, oh, I had no idea. I grabbed, like I went up to that table probably with like beef, a beef milk smoothie. Beef milk.

Classic smoothie flavor. Just grabbed a matzo ball, like a softball. This is mine. I actually touch on this in anti-social distance, but I grew up the kind of religious where we didn't even have matzo balls on Passover because it was so strict. It was like, if the matzo meal gets wet,

there's like a small chance that it might rise and then it's actually not kosher Passover for Pesach. So I like didn't even eat those. It was a lot. I was having stomach distress. The Nick, we've covered it, we won't get into it more, but the last couple, the last, almost two weeks. And I went, I was matzo ball crazy.

Yeah. Yeah. So cantors, I did cantors and I did greenblats. Those are, I got matzo ball from both of them. Now I got a question for you. This is a good question. Yeah, two famous delis in LA. Yeah.

I got a question. Why is you're going to want to weigh in here too? And I asked my two, I asked the deli boys, my two closest Jewish friends in LA. There's a lot of layers to that. They're two great guys who I love. You hate them, that sounds like. No, I love both of them.

But I said, when you get a matzo ball soup, what exactly is in the soup? Because cantors and greenblats had very different versions. Greenblats had chicken in there. There was a lot going on in the greenblats one. There was like, and honestly, turns out not as good for me because of the way my stomach was, because there was like onions,

and celery, and chicken and carrots in the greenblats one, I believe. And then the cantors one, just straight up chicken broth with the matzo ball. And if you want chicken, you got to add it on. If you want carrots, you got to add it on. And so I started going towards the cantors one just because I couldn't really,

I did the greenblats one and it fucked me up bad kind of early on, because I had chicken and stuff in it. And then I moved to the cantors one and then I started to add rice to it. But what to you, what is the classic matzo ball soup? That's, Avital, that's for you and for why? So like, if you got a matzo ball soup at a deli, what do you expect to get in there?

It's a great question. And I feel like on the surface, I'm very qualified to answer it. But then when you dig deeper, it's like, no, I didn't even, we didn't even, I didn't even have that growing up. So I feel like I'm a pretender. No, that's, I mean, that is like the stereotypical Jewish food. I think I would count with carrots, with chicken

or without, this is the lamest answer, but both are classic because the broth has to be like, have carrots, celery, chicken. So then it's sort of just like putting ketchup on a burger or not, you know? Okay, all right, that's fair. For me, I want, I want one matzo ball and then a big bowl of room temperature water.

No chicken broth? No. One of the worst stomach aches I ever got was after Green Blatt, so I feel you on that. Really? Yeah, crippling stomach pain. Was it super-related? It wasn't, it was, I think, like corned beef sandwich.

Which I love, there's a, yeah, they have a great corn, they have a great corned beef, great pastrami. Tastes great. Cantors is, I mean, I love cantors too, just because it's kind of like a kitschier, I guess, it's like kind of a, or just, I don't even know if that's the right word for it. It's just more kind of like, it's old, yeah,

old school LA kind of like, yeah. Kind of frozen in time. It's right next to an undeniably kitschy bar that it has, you know, like it kind of is a sister establishment, the kibbutz room. And then, and it's, and like they got all the classics and they're open 24 hours. I mean, that's kind of what, that's kind of the ideal

in one of those kinds of places I feel like. Yeah. It is like a time capsule, like you said, it just feels very frozen. I remember when I first moved here, someone was like, I'll take you to a kosher deli, and there's nothing kosher about cantors, which I think is very funny.

Really? But my first boyfriend thought it was, yeah, not at all. Wow. I remember the, I went to cantors like with my, with my, Justin Kiley, who's been on the show, I guess, who in the do-a-thon, he played guitar, he's great. That's right.

One of my best friends forever, he was out here and we went, we went to cantors. That's your, that's your best Gentile friend in Boston. Outside of Los Angeles. And Andy Dick got up on stage in the kibbutz room. I remember that, and he started singing and going crazy, which is also a very common LA story to just see. Yeah.

Yeah, that'll happen to like Burger King. I think, I think, I like both of them. There's, I mean, there's, there's like, what is there? This, look, we're getting into deli boys territory. They're gonna be pissed off and they're gonna come for us. Yeah, they're not making episodes anymore, but I do want to, we could talk about food all day, but Mitch, you brought up something before the record.

And I do think this is, this is non-food related, and I think this is a good topic to dig into, which is you have, you both have letterboxed accounts, and apparently you're seeing eye to eye on some things. I can't wait to hear. So, Abby, tell me, this isn't gonna help you because for me, like I warned you beforehand, no one likes my movie opinions.

Like people just get mad at me. Even, I like so very lightly criticized Black Widow the other day where I was just like, it was kind of boring. And that's all I said. And then people were like, ugh, he had to bring it up like online. They just mad at me again for, for when literally the star of the movie is suing the couple,

the people who are crazy about Marvel, the star of the movie. Well, they're mad at her too. Yeah, they're mad at her. They're also mad at her. It's insane. I haven't seen it, so I don't know if we see eye to eye there, but I'm really excited about the rest. But people get mad at you regularly is what you're saying.

People get mad, but it's that sort of thing of like, when the star of the movie, I mean, James Gunn who I'm excited to see Suicide Squad. I'm very excited to see it. And I think he made a good movie. I think Guardians is like one of the better superhero movies, but he even was critical of superhero movies lately. Like, what more do you want?

I don't also, I don't like, I don't just not dislike these. I don't, hold on, I gotta wear this quickly. I don't only dislike these movies for the content and because they're kind of like boring mush, but also like they are like also killing the movies and they pay people horribly. And there's like other reasons I don't like them,

but whatever, that's besides the point. People get really mad, especially with my comic book opinions, but I- You didn't have to retread your axe to grind here. I mean, we started from the place of positivity. Yes, I know, I'm sorry. Look, I fucked up-

I did some Game of Thrones reviews and people got really mad. Where I just was like, I have high expectations of the show and that's why this episode is disappointing. And people were like, she hates it and has nothing nice to say. Now we're seeing eye to eye

because Mitch and I, I think we're similarly kind of like just slightly ahead of the curve on hating that show and being like, they're starting to fuck shit up and then people were just mad at us about that. And then eventually everyone came around and no one's ever like, hey, you know what? In the end, you were right about it. Yeah, we just-

That absolutely never happens. No one ever does. That never happens. You know what, you guys? They're just like, oh yeah, I thought the same thing the whole time. Yeah, no never. I'm giving it to you now.

Yeah. You guys were right. We were all right. Thank you. Thank you, Avatar. We very much appreciate that. At least I can do. So I look at Letterbox,

I'll see what people are thinking about movies. I sometimes don't even put reviews because I just don't want people to like, I mean, it's tricky. You get this, you're an actor. You don't want to like- Yes. You don't want to be like, this movie stinks.

You know, you don't want to say that over and over again. Like it's terrible and also I would love to be a part of it if they would have me. Yes, of course. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I thought that it was safe to do with like Star Wars and Marvels,

but turns out, no, and now those are the only movies that exist. But every time I look at, when I'm looking at movie opinions, I see you, I follow you on Letterbox. I follow a few people on there. And you and I, we match up quite a bit on movie preferences,

which by the way, is gonna make people not like you. I mean, it's a bad thing. I want to look now, but I don't want to make my internet lag too much, you know? Do you have an example, Mitch? Is one come at the top of your head or is like, oh yeah,

I was looking at that third man with you. No, no, no, I got a look. And I was like, those are my thoughts exactly on the third man. No, you know what? I did just look up the Revenant because people, because I saw, there was a tweet about a grizzly bear

that walked by these people. Did you see that? Mm-mm. Here, I'll send it to you, I'll send you the tweet right now. Okay. Mitch's sending a tweet. And I'm trying to look at your Letterbox.

There's this big grizzly bear that was, and then there was like talk of the Revenant or whatever. So I started looking at the Revenant. And then a lot of people are like mean, like they're like, it's a boring movie. And then you gave it four stars. I'm like, yeah, it's a four star movie. That was great.

Yeah. It's a good movie. It was a good movie. There's also some, I think I might have seen, but again, don't want to speak ill of anything because Hollywood, it's scary, but I feel like I vaguely remember being like,

oh, you also didn't like this thing that everyone loves. And I'm scared to say what it was. So say it, please, please. We can bleep it. Yeah, now I can't find your account. And maybe I'm making this up. I really might have invented this, but the, the,

Oh, I think that that, I'm with you. You didn't like it. Wow, I don't want to say stuff either. Look, I'm not going to say anything, but I'm bleep it. Let's bleep the name and we can then talk to you. All right, fine. Yes.

I'm not a fan either. Nothing happens. It just like looks beautiful. It's vapid. There's like, okay, you have like a hard five minutes. And then, and then they like, I don't know. Sorry, I get, I get mad. Cause people thought it was like genius

and I was expecting to love it. And that's, that's kind of, yes, yes. That, I think that's the thing that annoys me the most is like, when someone, for instance, a movie, I don't like last Jedi, which not even saying anything bad about Ryan Johnson, whatever. And we're not bleeping that.

When people are like, like, it's, you don't get it. It's genius. That is the most frustrating thing with anything. We're like, it is. You don't get it. Are you sure? It's not. I can't pull up your letter box.

Why is it not letting me? It's, it's my name's Mitch is my letter box. Oh, that's why I'm just searching your full name. Okay. I probably could have gone to who I follow cause I definitely follow you. Wow. There we go.

My name's Mitch. I don't have a letter boxed. I feel like I just, I don't, I don't feel like what I know what I have to say on there. Like, I just be like, ah, this is good. You don't have to say anything. You just rate something. You can also just rate it.

Okay. Abietal, right off the bat, four stars for Gremlins two. I mean, come on. Wow. So good. With you there. Okay, good.

I'm so glad. I was not expecting to like that movie and I loved it. Yeah, it's great. You also gave, I know this is a popular opinion. We're not in the minority, but another round four stars, which Amir hated and I loved it. So I'm glad that you also.

Amir, what the fuck? Why did he hate it? I'll give you my best Amir impression. He basically is like, the whole first half of the movie, they act like they discover alcohol. They're like, you know, there's this thing. And if you drink it, your confidence goes up.

And they're like, but what if we drink more of it? Would our confidence continue to go up? Or will there be repercussions? And they're all shocked that there's like a downside. So I see where he's coming from, but I enjoyed it enough that thankfully watching it. I get that criticism of it, but I think it's pretty great.

It's just so good in the end. I'm looking through and you got good movie. I'm with you. I'm with you on a lot of these. I'm telling you, I'm with you on a lot of these. We don't have to get into the nitty gritty of it, but I'm with you on a lot of these. We can look at, we can go over the positive ones.

Oh yeah, I added a bunch from your list that I haven't seen, but we both are in agreement about the conversation, another classic, Casino. Yeah, conversation is great. Great one, Jaws. We agree, yeah. Jaws is one of my favorites of all time.

Great movie. So good. You know what? This is bad because now I'm starting to, I just saw a couple that we disagree on, and now I've actually unfollowed you in blockchain. No! Oh no.

What are they? Oh boy. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I think is, I think that is, I think it's Tarantino's best movie. I love Brad Pitt in it. I didn't really care for the movie. That's Faradoff. Brad Pitt is great in it.

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Welcome back to Doughboys. We're with Avital Ash discussing this week's chain, Mendocino Farms, founded by the husband and wife team of Mario Del Perro and Ellen Chen in 2003. They're locations in SoCal in the Bay Area as well as Houston and Dallas now in the Lone Star State. And here's a fun fact, Dodgers pitcher Clayton Kershaw ate lunch at Mendocino Farms on June 18th, 2014,

then later that same day through a no-hitter. Wow. Shit, someone get me a baseball. I wanna see if it works. The only sport where I could walk out onto the field and no one would bat an eye. Now, before the break, Mitch, we were talking about a grizzly video.

And then you put this in our group chat here and we're gonna, I have not seen this. And we're gonna take a look and a listen to this bad boy. So let's see exactly what happens here. All right, here we go, on a press play. All right, here we go. Hey, big boy. Hey, big boy.

Look at that fucking thing. Wow. Beautiful. It's a huge, huge bear. Now watch what happens here, it's pretty good. He's stopping it, he's stopping at a picture of a bear that's a sign and then he's turning around and walking back the other direction.

The soul on TikTok. He doesn't like the looks of himself. Or he's satisfied that the sign is, people were saying like, oh, he's checking to make sure that his sign is up and then he took off. Yeah. Right, right, owed to me.

I gotta say, when that guy was saying, hey, big boy, I felt like I was being cat-called. It was very sexualized. So it was. That's what, so supposedly that's what, not supposedly, I guess this is just the truth. You're supposed to talk to bear, you're supposed to be big with Grizzlies

and that's why he was saying that to the bear. Like that was a dangerous situation, obviously. That bear is fucking huge. It's huge as shit. He's like SUV sized and that's a little hyperbolic because he's a very, very big bear. And we saw the, I don't know if either of you have watched the show alone,

but it's like that nature survival show. I just heard a lot about it yesterday. Last night. It's a compelling watch, at least like the more recent seasons are like really, they've really figured out the formula, but it's like as survivalist as you can get with the conceit of a TV show,

a person is alone, I think we were talking about on the show, they're totally by themselves to the point where they're filming themselves. So there's no crew or they're just like completely alone and isolated in some different climate each season. And they have a lot of bear encounters and that's always like, hey bear, hey bear. Like just talking to them very gently to try to,

I guess calm them down, slash let them know that this is your territory. Wow, like trying to sound sort of submissive in their tone. I think so. I think it's also just to like, you don't wanna surprise them. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but I believe that you don't wanna surprise a bear. Like you don't wanna bear to just clock you

and be like, oh, what's that? That's a threat. You wanna warn them that you're present. That makes sense. And then you say it in kind of a gentle sort of way. I think that's what's going on. I don't know what the fuck I'm now. Another unpopular opinion I have,

in addition to Gremlins 2 and that other show that we won't name is like, I feel like I'm kind of okay to be mauled to death by a bear. Like that kind of seems like an okay way to go, I think. Like we're gonna die. That's like, yeah, a cool way to go. It is a cool way to go.

I think my fear is just like, if there was like a situation where the bear just knocked your jaw off, you know, and then like, you're like, oh my God, I see my jaw. Like you're like, Jeff Goldblum in the fly or some shit. You know what I mean? Like that to me is the, that to me is- Well, that wasn't a bear.

No, I know. I mean, the title of the movie is The Fly, yeah. That Jeff Goldblum movie, The Bear. Where he turns into a bear, a guy who's got it completely wrong. He keeps turning into a bear during the course of the movie. Love Cronenberg. Oh my God.

I feel like if your jaw's off, you're already sort of unconscious though, right? You might be in so much pain at that point that you, man, that would be the going the way of the flies. It's a horrible way to go. I can't think of much worse than that. But a bear mall, I would take a bear mall over the fly transformation for sure.

What about like drowning versus a bear mall? Oh, no, I would, I do not want to be drowned because how I, that's one of the only ways I can calm myself is by breathing. And so I think if I'm in a situation where I can't breathe, that's when I feel the most, the most terrified. I mean, it's a very human thing, but I'd much rather be mauled by a bear than drowned.

Great white shark would be worse to me than bear. I think I would rather be mauled. I think I would go for the mauling over the great white attack. You're on your turf with a bear. But would you rather be eaten by a shark or drown in the open ocean? Fuck, I think I'd maybe rather drown.

I would be so scared to get eaten by a shark. I just like, like my last few, I mean, I guess you'd be so scared as you're drowning. This is tough. Which way do I want to go? I feel like I would maybe rather be shark food because then at least I'm like sustaining this beautiful creature.

There you go. I think I'm gonna go with, that's very nice of you. I think that I'm gonna go- I'm so selfless, really. I'm gonna go the way that I'm meant to go out, which is massive heart attack, probably within the next decade or so. But that's the Mitchell way.

But the whole bear situation, I don't know. I mean, like it would be over pretty quickly, I feel like. So would a shark attack. But I mean, both would be. And so drowning would draw it out a little bit. So I don't know. You think it's over quickly, but then you were talking about the revenant beforehand

and we saw how like drowned out that was. Like that went on for a while and then Leo like sucked off the bear to completion. Like that was part of it. Do you think it would really take that long or you think that's just for the mood? Like I wonder what the stats are around that. Yeah, I know, I thought it was unrealistic

that it took that long for the bear to finish when Leo was sucking them off. Yeah, it's true. You know Leo's good. It would, yeah, it wouldn't take that long at all. That's why, cause I was wondering with the cat call of the bear of like, hey bear, if the bear is into it and then you get a fucking go down on this big boy,

you're in trouble. That's true. And he's fucking that narcissist, while you're going down on him, the narcissist is looking at his poster and smiling like a fucking narcissist piece of shit. Like Derek Jeter. Anyways, Avatar, we interrupted you for a while, sorry.

No, I just was realizing and we won't name them either. You can just do a series of bleeps, but that we both didn't like or or or or or or or. Wow. That everybody loved. I love this. This series of a half dozen bleeps

is gonna start, gonna launch. So much social media speculation. I love it. I can't wait to hop on the Discord when this episode drops. I feel like our letter box will blow up with hate, but still blow up. People will be like, I have to guess what these are.

Do you ever see in the movie, The Bear? There's a movie, The Bear. No. And I watch it and when I was young and then it's like, there's a scene like the bear's mom gets killed. It's like how it starts off as like hunters killed it. It's like a Bambi sort of deal.

But then there's a scene where the bear eats like magic mushrooms and like trips. There's like a bear tripping scene. Is it animated? What's that? Is it an animated movie? No, no. It's like a notorious film where they use-

It's a live action. They actually used a train to bear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yeah. But not a documentary. No, it's not a documentary. They didn't give a bear hallucinogenic mushrooms. It's from 1988.

So the hallucinogenic mushrooms thing, hold on, I got this. I pulled up the scene. We're gonna, we're watching more. Hey, it's a bear watching day today. Why? If you're in the chat right now, you're watching a bear and me on screen.

And I don't know if you're- I don't know if I would consider you a bear. You're like Boo Boo maybe to my yogi. But where bear's hosting the podcast and then we got a couple bear clips. This is the mushroom trip from the bear. Let me share this real quick. We'll take a look at this clip.

He trips on mushrooms and I'll look up some info on the bear as we do this. But yeah, the bear movie from 1988, I just saw. Oh, what a cutie. Yeah, just a little- Very cute little cub. Yeah. Little cub running around.

Coming about. And then how long is this? How long is this? This is like two minutes, 24 seconds. He's rather, that is a very cute bear. That's a grizzly bear, right? So cute. A baby grizzly bear.

This is also just amazing footage. Yes. Okay, now he's buying some mushrooms. These look like Toadstool platforms you would jump on in like World 4 One or 4-3 in like Super Mario Brothers. Yeah, no, these are real deal mushrooms. He's eating some real mushrooms. Big red cap mushrooms with white spots.

Yeah, like cartoon mushrooms. I mean these things, yeah. They're not psilocybin, they're just, right? Do I make up the magic part? No, no, I see now look, now he's starting to know. I don't think they fed him actual- Right, but they're trying to suggest. A bear POV shot and then over the shoulder shot of him

looking at these mushrooms and his vision is kind of blurred and hazy really quickly. Are the effects of that immediate? I've never had these. No. Okay. You never had mushrooms, that would be quite the double. No, I don't want to do that.

I think I'd lose my mind. Really? That ends with you suffocating me with a pillow. This is so cute. Some of these shots look like this is a mask or an animatronic. Maybe some of these close-ups aren't an actual bear. Yeah, I think that's a real bear there,

why is that you're seeing? Wow. By the way, Bart the bear is in this movie. The famous Bart the bear, the Kodiak bear. Wow. I don't know him. I can't see, I don't see any controversies yet. All right, how much of this do we need to watch, Mitch?

We don't have to watch any more of it. No, we don't have to. Oh, shit, hold on. But I don't have to look this up. I have to see this movie now. Now there's another POV shot for the bear and you can see Leo coming through the woods. Oh boy.

Oh, shit, Leo's going down on the bear. Yeah, Leo put a bib on. Just started going to town. And now it's raining gum, look. Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. No, no, you were right. I'm shocked that you beat us to the punch.

That is such a cute bear. I feel like I would die getting mulled by a bear because I'd be like, oh my God, look, and I would want a hug. They have some dog-like qualities to them. All right, it's all bear mulling is the way to go over shark attack, I think. I've also never seen Bruce Lee Man,

which seems like that might help. That's actually in that scene where he's like, you must never listen to this. That's actually the Doe Boy's pilot. Wait, what? There's a famous scene at the end where Werner Herzog is like listening to audio of this man's death at the hands of a bear

and he at the paws of a bear, rather. And he is saying that, he's listening to the clip, you don't hear it, and then the person he's talking to doesn't hear it, and he's basically saying like, you must never listen to this, this is horrible, this is the worst, it's like the worst piece of audio he's ever heard.

And you guys use that clip? No, no, I was saying that that's actually the Doe Boy's pilot that he's listening to. I see, it's great when you have to explain a joke to somebody who doesn't get it. What a great feeling. Well, it means we did our jobs. Yeah, it's a good quality joke.

It actually is, I just had, I didn't know the famous, but now it makes sense. It's kind of, it's memeable, it's a meme, it's a meme now. You could mean that, it's meme worthy. So we're talking Mendo-Sino Farms. Abhi Tal, I'm curious, do you have a go-to Mendo or, because Mendo, I feel like it's a- Mendo for short.

Mendo-Sino Farms known as Mendo, I just said, do you have a go-to Mendo order? Because it is such like a, I'm not sure how aware of it people are outside of California. I know it's in Texas now, but out here, especially in the LA area, it is like such a go-to, I feel like any office job I've ever had in the entertainment industry or not

has involved getting lunch from Mendo-Sino Farms. So that's a long road for me to ask, do you have like a go-to order or is this a place you go to with any regularity? Not at all, I had had two experiences. One is, I went in and got like an okay sandwich once, but the place smelled really weird. And then the others have been exactly what you said on set,

but it's been more like a platter. So I'm not like ordering something. Got it. It's sort of just like here's sandwiches for everyone and like big salads. Yeah, they do a lot of catering apparently. And I was researching that apparently that's why they don't offer breakfast is

because they're so busy in the early hours prepping all the catering orders for the day that they just don't have any bad with for breakfast orders. But Michi, same question. Mendo-Sino Farms, I'm not sure if this is a regular spot for you, but I know you've had it a number of occasions.

Do you have a go-to order? Well, Yikes, yes I do. I actually get Mendo quite a bit. And here's my thought is that Mendo is one of those restaurants that it's the baby riders and the baby industry people get mad at Mendo because they get it all the time. It's just a place that like they get all the time. They're like, I hate Mendo.

We're anywhere in the world. If my dad, when he worked for the T, the MBTA in Boston, if they gave him Mendo every day, he'd be happy. He'd be fine. My dad used to walk and get a turkey sandwich every day. That's what he got. A turkey sandwich. He ate it every day.

I don't know how the fuck he did it. Fucking crazy person, but. Wait, like from where? Did he have a spot or did he bring a turkey sandwich? No, he just had a local spot that he went and walked and got a turkey sandwich. Like just with like spicy mustard. Why, do you?

Did you, sorry, I, there was a pause on my end and then it wasn't a real pause. This is the internet and I'm sorry. Ha ha ha ha. Were you asking if Wags, oh my God, she's hanging herself. No, no, don't do it. With her cord from her headphones. Wow, which would be surprising for us

that that's the first dough boys on air suicide. Almost reason enough to do it, right? It's like the getting mauled by a bear sort of deal. A memorable death. That's right. Were you asking if Wags has a turkey sandwich spot? Or like if he has a go-to there. But you actually didn't say yet, yeah.

So I do have some go-tos, but and I also don't care about Wags go-tos to be clear, but I dare you, but I'm just saying the world, the entertainment world is spoiled because I was always down for Mendo because I'm like, I can get different stuff. I can get a salad and I'm okay doing it over and over and over again.

I don't care. Sure, I want to mix it up occasionally. Don't get me wrong, but I feel like it's that sort of thing of like in the entertainment world, if you get Mendo like once a month, there's still people being like, ah, we get this once a month and I don't like it.

And Mendo is good. Mendo is like a high, it's a good quality place. I think that the first time I got it is when it was from Koalic, when he lived at Palmerston Wags. He brought home a Mendo. Big hunga cheese. I think, well, that was his dinner.

Okay. He had set off a mouse trap and didn't get caught. So he brought that back with him. And then for me, he gave me the salad. I think it was the Save Drake's Farm. Is that the one that has like goat cheese in it? Now the Saved Drake's Farm, because they successfully saved the farm.

Oh, that's amazing. But he brought back the Save Drake Farm when he was working downtown in the same studio where Mad Men was. But there was a Mendo. I think that was like maybe the first Mendo was downtown. I'm not sure, but I think that's where it was. All right, so this is early days and I had it.

And I will say that it has changed. You know, like back then it felt very, it felt like he brought me a salad from the farmer's market. It was like, you know, even the containers where it was like a very like a disposable container that like looked like it was like a pro environment or whatever. And then now they've become a little bit more

like a chain in many ways. And I feel like the quality isn't as good as it was. But I still think it is, it's a decent place. And I think that people get spoiled and they don't like that they get it for lunch all the time. But I ordered a lot for myself. I get the chicken and prosciutto salad a lot of the time. I like that chicken prosciutto salad.

And then sometimes I'll do the chicken cob, but I'll sub in steak instead of chicken because they used to have a steak cob back in the day that they don't do anymore. And it was great. Let me speak for one moment on behalf of us. We have baby riders. Yeah, let me stick up for the baby fucking riders.

All right, let's hear it. No, if you are in a job where, if you are on a job and a show with a good budget and you're getting lunch comped for you every day, you're getting free lunch, then yes, I'm with you that you don't necessarily always have a right to complain. Although it's sometimes like anything gets routine if you just get it too often.

But that said, I've worked in some cheap ass shows, not Gorko's Planet, but some other cheap ass shows where like there, here's the lunch that you're getting and also you have to go out of pocket for it. So it's like you don't have a choice in it. And so you're just being handed a Mendocino Farms menu. A lunch from this place is gonna cost you like $17. And if you're getting it once or twice a week,

there reaches a point where just like, ah, fuck this fucking place again. So I kind of do empathize with the exasperation to a certain degree. But also- But hold on a second. That also comes from places that get it for free. Like people who don't have to pay for it. Oh, 100%.

No, there are people who get that, who get shit for free and complain and spike it to the ground. Yes, so I'm with you. There is definitely a sense of entitlement that comes. Once it becomes your given, you're just like, but yes, it's free, but I also expect it to be exactly what I want.

I worked on a pilot once where, and it was a network pilot, a big network. And they literally had someone making like peanut butter and jelly or grilled cheese for one of the meals. And- Insane. I mean, and granted, I'm not paying for it, it's free, but it was the only time where I was like,

this is not okay. Like I would have been thrilled to have Mendocino Farms. Yeah. You know, they're putting millions into this pilot and peanut butter and jelly, like get out of here. Right, yes. Anytime I was mad. That's, no, that's fair.

And I feel like, cause then the other side of this too is cause like a lot of people will be like, you get free lunches, which yes, I know that that is something that a lot of the world doesn't get as well. And the entertainment industry, a lot of the time you get your lunch for you. But there's another side- Every job should get it.

But there's another side to that too, where a lot of these jobs, like you can't leave. And a lot of times you have to work through lunch and you eat your lunch at the shitty fucking table and you just can't go off lot or whatever. So a lot of the times that you have, they have to bring you lunch. I don't know, it's-

You're captive and you're beholden to what someone else's decision is. And so there, and there are times when that gets frustrating. I also say just like from working in the video game industry and you know, pay was horrible and you're working 12 hour days or 16 hour days you're working insane amount of times. And the reason the point in the process

where you're just like, well, we're crunching and we're getting dinner for everybody. So that's the thing. And it's like, you have times just like, I'm fucking cuckoo again. Like yes, it's free. Yes, I'm getting free dinner, but also I'm staying here. I'm like paying with my labor.

I'm working until fucking 10 p.m. on a game that I know is going to be a piece of shit. And my reward is that I get a dinner from a place that I don't like. Like it's like I kind of- Did you ever go, when you saw that it was cuckaroo did you ever go, cuckaroo, cuckoo me and go nuts? I did do that a couple of times and I got fired.

And then I sued. Wow. Yeah. I want that to be a true story, but I feel like it's not. You mentioned the Savedrakes Farm salad Mitch and that is one of my go-tos. Abidal, you asked what my go-to orders were. Thank you for asking that.

I take it back, I take it back because Mike said he didn't want to know and now I- Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to say it anyway. And also the impossible taco salad they do there. I feel like it's one of the best uses of impossible meat is they grind it up into taco meat

and they make a taco salad version that's also vegan. And it has a great vegan sort of Chipotle ranch dressing. I find that delightful. So those are kind of my go-tos. That's not what I got for this visit. And let's get into our meals for this week. Can I just quickly interject? And there's a text thread that me and Weigar and Suss,

just the three of us are on. It's called the Doughboys War Room. I shouldn't maybe give out these secrets. But Susser just texted, what would happen if you signed up for Postmates and just ate all the food? Just out of nowhere. What the fuck is he talking about?

Is he, does he mean like us specifically? Like we could order enough food or that we could like bankrupt Postmates I mean, it seems like this is something from, like it's a personal thing. It seems like something is about to happen with Suss where he's about to eat. Oh, you think he did it?

I mean, I don't know. It's a warning. I can't tell what it is. He crippled the supply chain of the entire American restaurant industry with his one Postmates order. So it's like a little kid being like, what would happen if you like broke the dish?

It's Suss saying like, what would happen if you got Postmates in order to order all the food? That's what he said to us. So it went from like save the farm to destroy Postmates. Wow. Perhaps as noble of a cause. Given that we know that company.

I did order my food. It was actually some of the first food I had, normal food I ate again after I was sick was Mendo. And you know what, Wags? I did a few trips to Mendo because I liked Mendo. And so I made a couple of meals out of it. I did a couple trips as well, Mitch, including today, which I did a spur of the moment.

I was just like, you know what? I got some time for lunch. I'll do another Mendo run. But Abhi-Tel, let's start with you. You don't have as many Mendo wraps. I don't like when you do it as much as me. I was trying to like, just make some food lunches. Yeah.

No, I did it too. Fuck. I thought about doing it today. I really did. I was like, I'm craving it now. And I was like, I could try something else even though I really liked what I got. And I might just repeat, but yes.

Okay. Did I just dive in? Yes, please. Yeah, let's hear it. Well, first it was an ordeal. I tried to get it delivered. And three times this happened, actually tying into Postmates

and I think another one was DoorDash. It was like three different apps, three different times. I ordered, let's say at like four for 7 p.m. Like thinking ahead, I'm gonna be, when I'm hungry, the food will be here. And then at like 7.15, it's like your order has been canceled. Three different times. Oh, wow.

The apps just canceled. And then I ordered directly from, you can like do it through their website. And that was the time it worked on the fourth try. Also, when I told Amir what restaurant we were doing, I said Mendocino Farms. And I feel like I have to out myself because I thought that that's what it was.

You said my name wrong. You pulled an Avedo. Exactly, exactly. That's exactly what happened. So I guess we're all even. And now I like think about it every time. I'm like, don't say Mendocino. So that's what I want to say.

So I had eaten from there before when you were talking about the steak cob. I was like, oh, I did have that. I remember doing a salad there with steak and liking it. But I feel like it's been very like 50-50. I've gotten food there and like kind of liked it or not. And this time I was like, I'm gonna look at Yelp and see what people recommend.

And I feel like I did such a great order. I was very pleased with myself. Wow, wow. By the way, Mendocino sounds like a fucking Italian mobster. Sounds like an Italian food place. It's a red sauce sort of place. I mean, I would love, I would watch a movie with a character named Mendocino

as a mob boss. That's a hit. Lies, you can write it. After you finish Ghost Zoo. Also a hit. I'll go from my least favorite up. I got the Reuben, which is vegetarian, which I want to say it tastes like a real Reuben,

but I don't really remember what a real Reuben tastes like. So I'm not sure. But the rye bread was good. It was like, this is gonna sound gross, but wet enough. Like I always want it to be, like have like mayo and like just be wet enough. But is there a fake Thousand Islands on it? Is there like a fake?

Is there like a vegan Thousand Islands on there? It said Smokey Thousand Island. Yeah, I got this as well. Mrs. Goldfarb's Unreal Reuben, plant-based corned beef from Unreal Deli. So it's not impossible it's Unreal, which is a different brand. Havarti cheese, Apple and celery root slaw, homemade bread,

which is the rye that was mentioned, Butter Pickles and a Smokey Thousand Island. I do gotta say, I thought you said farty cheese and it was very strange sounding. Havarti cheese, correct? Havarti cheese. Havarti, yeah. Havarti cheese is kinda farty.

I copied and chased it too, to be ready. It was, I thought very good, and it was my least favorite. So I feel like that speaks to how good everything else was. Then, oh yeah. Just a quick interjection, Nick, Nick, going back to gozu, can you write in a scene where Leo goes down

on like the ghost bear at one point? Yeah, I mean it could be like a cameo. I like a reverse ghost buster sort of thing. Have you guys seen that? Any sort of like bestiality in a mainstream movie? I can't think of... Not yet, and I'm looking. Oh, you know what, what's his name?

Why am I blanking? I can see his face so clearly. Bobcat Goldthwaite did that one movie where it's like, I think it's a postscript of like a girl who blew a dog in college, and it's like an aftermath of that. Dear Lord. Yeah, I found one.

Okay. It's in my queue now. Yes, sorry. It's been years, so I don't remember. We both give it five stars on Letterbox. I'll be checking. I'll be checking for updates. And then the rest of these were just like,

I thought, so, so good. Well, okay, I'm really into cookies, and I wanted to get the classic chocolate chip, but they were out, so I got like a brownie cookie, and I didn't think either of them looked that good, but this one was very good. It was like the nice mix of like the brownie and the cookie without the brownie being overpowering

or too sweet. It was better than it looked. Very happy with the cookie. And then I got the pokey-style watermelon salad. Wow, yeah. It was so good. Also, their packaging is cool, because I feel like usually they do,

when you get a salad, it's like they just like shove the little dressing in there, and then you have to kind of like fish it out, and I have a picture I can send you guys, but they have like the lid of the salad has a little dent in it that the dressing sits in. That was so cool. What a nice touch.

Yes, great. It is, it is. They at one point did have, and I'm sure that you can recycle plastics, but I'm sure that you can, but look, the recycle situation, I think in LA it's that sort of thing of like, everything that has like the five recycle

is actually just gets tossed. There's just a lot of sad shit with the recycling, but they used to do a thing where like half the container, just the lid was plastic, and the bottom was whatever it was. Cardboard or something. Yeah, some sort of cardboard or whatever. Yeah, but now it's all plastic.

But I will say the invention of the little divot for the salad dressing is huge because- 100%. One, they'll never forget your dressing, which is a huge plus, and I usually try to order like extra dressing with a place like this just because they're deep salads. It's kind of like a tall bowl of salad,

and once you get down, if you fuck up, you can have made a mistake and you won't have any salad dressing in there. I don't like to shake up my salads either. It doesn't work for me. It's the only way to do it here. Like you were saying, there's so much depth to that bowl. It's a cavern, and so there's no way to distribute

to the bottom unless you shake it up, unless you turn that thing completely upside down. I feel like- Even then you will get full coverage. Then I feel like the ratio of the dressing isn't, it's too light if you shake it up like that. It doesn't work as well, I don't know. I know, I like to sometimes like fork in the dressing

onto the salad in my mouth. That works too, I mean, that can work as well. I kind of do it as I go, I layer it as I go, and sometimes that's why I get an extra one. But that watermelon poke salad looks like an extremely interesting salad. It was so good. I was fascinated by it, wow. It didn't-

There's no fish in it, right? It is just watermelon, right, okay. And I gave Amir some and he didn't know that it wasn't poke. Wow. Could not tell. It was a little too spicy for him. So I think if you don't like spice, you can get the, it comes with sriracha mayo.

I think if you just do that on the side, then you're not dealing with spiciness. But it was so good. And I think maybe part of why I haven't liked it as much in the past is I was like, maybe I've gotten it with like a very health conscious orient of like trying to get stuff that's good for me, whereas now I'm like, I'm just gonna see what's delicious.

And I think there's like enough in there that's good for you because it has watermelon, cucumbers, edamame, pickled daikon and carrots. Now I'm listing the ingredients, avocado, scallion, cilantro, napa cabbage, kale slaw, carrots, bean sprouts, baby spinach, so all that really good stuff. And then it also has like crispy rice and the sriracha mayo and a ginger ponzu dressing

and black sesame seeds. So I guess none of that is really that unhealthy. Maybe just the crispy rice. It was so good. I had some like leftover the next day, still good. Really into it. And then the number one was the not quite fried chicken. Wow.

I loved it. Salad or sandwich? The salad, which, no, the sandwich, but now I wanna try it as a salad because I saw they have that option too. Man, that's, so this is one of their big sandwiches. This was like when this place first started, the save drinks farm, the menu got bigger and bigger

obviously as time went on, but save drinks farm and chicken and pros... The chicken and prosciutto sandwich and then this sandwich, I still think- Yeah, the not-so-fried chicken. I still think that those are kind of the big ones. The chicken and prosciutto salad is up there too. But those are the big sandwiches, the chicken and prosciutto and the not-so-fried.

It's good, they're good. You don't love it. No, no, it is good. I also got one. This is one of a few sandwiches that I got, but I hadn't had it in a long time and I was wondering if things have changed because I love that steak cob

and they definitely have changed the steak. Like they actually used to give you strips of steak and now it's basically like sliced steak. It's like a very thin sliced steak now, which I don't, maybe it's just for that restaurant, you know, like it's the sort of thing of this is just easier to pack and refrigerate and, you know, keep on hand longer or something like that.

But it used to be actually chunks of steak. And the chicken is kind of the same thing where it's just like a thinly sliced chicken, almost not deli style, but it's, and I think that that's always the way the chicken always was. But I hadn't had it in a long time and I think it is really great.

But I wondered if it had changed at all. They basically like put like, yeah, a little crispy, like kind of little crispy, ricey things in there with the chicken to give it the feel of being. They call it Mendo's crispies, but I don't know what that means. Me neither. And maybe I never want to know.

It's like poplars from Futurama. Different than the, than the rice, than the crispy rice and the salad. It was like a different crunch than that. But I know what you're saying about the slicing because I had like a bite and it was so good. And I was like, is it fried chicken? It's not quite fried chicken.

What does that mean? And then I had a little bit of like the chicken by itself. And it's sort of unremarkable, but it's the bite. The bite together is so good. Yes. I guess it's like a, it's like a way to make it seem like fried chicken, the gimmick of it is, but without, without the, you know,

the caloric bomb of it actually being a fried chicken. It's like a roasted chicken breast with those aforementioned crispies. And I think everything, here's the deal with Mendo is like all the vegetables, like that kind of slaw combination on top of the chicken sandwich is really good. I think if you're going here

to get like an actual fried chicken sandwich, they actually do have one, which I got as well. I'm excited to hear how it compares. But, but I don't think this is the type of place you go for anything like that. In fact, as far as like hot food goes here, it is kind of a, and I've eaten at the restaurant plenty of times, I did this time get it delivered each time.

Look, where Delta's back, Delta's here, not back. Delta's here. Gotta be safe. And so you gotta be safe. And I don't want, I didn't want to go and eat in the restaurant, but it's never a place where you're gonna get like, oh, that's like a nice hot sandwich. I feel like, like for some of the grilled sandwiches,

the Ruben, why? Cause I know that you just gave a little head nod there. Well, the Ruben. Are you not gonna get a good hot sandwich there? I don't know. The Ruben is, the Ruben is the, the, the, I feel like what I was going to say is. Just the Ruben.

The grill, the grilled sandwiches, the grilled sandwiches. The not so fried chicken sandwich isn't like a hot, like it's not, the chicken meat isn't like hot. You know what I mean? It's like kind of like room temperature to warm. It's not, it's, it's not super hot. Anyways, regardless of all that. Which I think that it tasted, to me anyway, so good

without the hot component was like more impressive. Cause I, yeah, I just assumed that's the delivery thing and maybe, but it still was so good. And maybe it wouldn't have been hot even in this, in the store, in the restaurant. But by the time it got to me, it was just like, this is so good. It's very good.

It's a, it's, it's a, it's a great sandwich. It makes, it makes sense that they, that, that this is one of their, their little stars, I feel like. I had sandwiches earlier at a not chain that same day that were very pricey and I preferred all of these. Cause I had, I split to with somebody. So I had two other ones in like a Silver Lake spot that I actually heard somebody else mention on your podcast.

Wow. And it was good, but I thought that this was better. I mean, the only thing that I would maybe want is like a little bit more of the pickled onion. I thought that was like a very nice tang and there was very little of it. But I love sauces and I love dipping and I felt like I didn't even need,

I got the barbecue sauce in the end and I was like, it doesn't even need it. What was, what was the restaurant? You can, we'll bleep it. We'll bleep that as well. Yeah, we'll bleep it. Also, also who's, who did you hear it from? We'll bleep that too.

Yeah, we'll bleep that as well. This is, it's a big bleep episode. It was getting the from and I had some sandwiches and I was not that impressed. Wow. Wow. All right. Interesting. I haven't eaten there in a while, but, but, wait.

It's my first time. Is it new? I think so. There's, okay. There's a that's in. All right. So now, now I'm going to start to bleep that too. We're going to bleep that too. Bleep the second city that Mitch said.

There's, there's, there's, there's another, another restaurant that has that same name. So I guess I've never, I've never been to this one in LA. I think their desserts are probably real. I had the cookie there and it was very good and other people had other desserts that looked really good. So I feel like, but also people love their sandwiches. So it's just subjective.

Well, I think it is the same, it is the same concept, Mitch. I think they expanded. That's what it is. Also bleep, bleep that I just said at LA. But don't bleep it the second time when you said, yeah. So I, I think the sandwiches at this place are good too. I do think of it more as a salad place.

I like to get my salads from Mendocino Farms because you're going to have some good salads and you're not going to feel as bad as eat, you know, these sandwiches. But I got, I, I tried a few different sandwiches. One of my first meals back, which was, you know, it was good wigs because you do know at this place that you are getting like good ingredients.

That is, that is the plus size about, about Mendo. You're getting good ingredients. Like I said, good veggies and the, and the, and the, it does feel like quality stuff. So I'm going to just, I'll go into my sandwiches. I got the, I got one that's a special cause they do change up seasonally. They change up some of their sandwiches and stuff.

And I got the summer street corn with chicken sandwich, which is al pastor chicken over creamy street corn with poblano and onion, Raja's, oh God. Pickled red onions, tomato, shredded romaine, cilantro and jalapeno salsa verde on a toasted sesame roll. So that was, that was one of the sandwiches I got. And you know what? Of this whole meal,

that might have been the bite of the night wigs. That was, that was, that was, and I got the Mendo's crispy, the, the Mendo's crispy chicken sandwich, not the not so fried chicken sandwich. I got the, I got the actual, their version of a fried chicken sandwich this time in the bistro steak. The bistro steak was kind of the loser of the bunch.

I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't thrilled with it. But, but the, the, their version of the fried chicken sandwich is good, but it's just the sort of thing of, it just, it just doesn't fit at this place. It's like a fried chicken patty. It just doesn't, there's no, there's no fryers at this place either. You know what I mean? Like it just,

it's, it's apparently an air fried chicken. Yeah. Like I, because they don't have fries or onion rings or any side like that, even though it is a sandwich shop. All their, all their, their sides are like deli cold case sides. Mitch, I have a hot take and this is maybe easy for me to say as someone who doesn't, who's not eating meat right now,

but as far as steak goes, unless it's a steak, get it out of here. Geez. I don't need a, I don't need a steak sandwich. I don't need steak as a protein and something. I'll take a steak, but usually a lot of times when they're, when you're, when you're getting like steak in a salad or something, they're cheaping out on the product. I don't need that.

Well, give me chicken. Here's the issue is that I, I, I don't agree with your take because give me a steak and cheese. You're, you're wrong. I, I'd like a, I like, I like steak, a D'Angelo steak and cheese still great. The thing here is I got, so I, like I said, I got this bistro steak and right off the bat,

it says carved steak with D'Gene's basil, pesto, caramelized onion jam, roasted tomatoes, arugula, lemon, squeeze on toasted sesame roll. Here's the thing. That steak was not carved. And I'm looking at the picture. You can see red here. There was, I got the steak that they, when you went, when a lot of times I'll get the chicken cobs out, you'll sub out for steak.

Yes. It was that, it was that sliced thin steak. There was no, there was no carved steak here. This was, this was thin steak. And the sandwich is closer to like a cheese steak. Yeah. But I mean, like not hot either. It like, it's like in that Mendo, it's like, basically they're, they have the chicken and it was kind of like the steak version of the chicken,

which I know this sounds very stupid, but it makes sense if you've been to Mendo before. I follow. It's like the thin slice steak. And the Mendo's crispy chicken sandwich was interesting. It was, it was better than the bistro steak, but it was very sloppy. It was just a mess. And compared to like, look, BK has a better chicken sandwich, like just taste wise.

You know what I mean? Like, I just feel like it doesn't work as well at Mendo. Maybe I got a bad version of it. I don't know. And I remember back in the day getting like this, a sandwich study of heat, which I liked, which is a turkey sandwich and the not so fried. And then the prosciutto and chicken, which I did. I got the, I got the, so the next time I went,

I got the not so fried and the prosciutto and chicken. I got those two sandwiches and they were really great. They still hold up. Abby tell them that both of them are great. I think I like the prosciutto and chicken one a little bit more, but they're, but these are like the sandwiches that started with this place and they're still great. And I understand why people go back and get them all the time.

I didn't know that these were the classics. Like whatever I had from there was not any of those things until this round. Yeah. No, the, the, the not so fried in the, in the prosciutto and chicken have been that we, we used to get Mendo all the time with on, on a birthday boys, Wags, when we worked on the lot. Wow.

We get the first season of the birthday boys with Bob, who want to say get well to Bob, who just prayers up to Bob, who, who just had a small heart attack, but he's doing, he's doing well. But I know, thank God. I know him too. Fun fact, he's, he's like one of the nicest people that I've encountered in this industry.

He's, I always do an impression of Bob on here. And I'm always like, it's me, Bob, but I love Bob. And he's like a guy, he's, he's, he's a guy who I, who, like, you know, very close to a father figure in many ways. You want to, you want him to, you know, you want him to think you're funny. You want to get a turkey sandwich from the same spot every day.

I mean, Bob probably would be fine with that. But, but I got, yeah, I got the two old classics wise. I got, I got those two sandwiches and they didn't disappoint. They were really good. And Abby, I got myself a chocolate brownie cookie, which is kind of the brownie version of it. And it was great. That's what I got.

I wanted the other one. That's the one you got, all right. So I got the same one. All right, yeah, no, I loved it. I thought it was, I thought it was really fantastic. And I, and I actually, I actually ate it the next day. I, I can't, I saved it today and it held up great. I also got myself some basil pesto shells.

They do, so they do just like small kind of like deli salads. And those are good. They have another one that's like, like more in a red sauce, more of a Mendocino sort of deal. Right. Like it's a, I forget, like almond rumesco shells, I think is what they're called. But I'm just going off the dome on that one.

But those are really good, but they're deli, they're delicacies good in that first order. I got a Thai watermelon and cucumber salad, which is probably similar to that, you know, the water, the, you know, that watermelon. But they're not trying to pass it off as poke in yours. No, they're not trying to make it as poke. And it was really, it was a really tasty salad.

It was, it was, it was, it was really good. It was, it's a fruit salad, but it was, it was, it was really good. You get the, it's a little spicy with that Thai flavor. And then, and then, and I also got a spicy Dijon. Potato salad, which I didn't like as much, but they're salads, you can, you can go up to the front counter when you're there.

They'll give you a little spoonful to try, which I don't know if they still do in the age of COVID, but they'll usually give you a little taste test. And, and there's, there, those deli salads are really good. Nick, what do you think? I agree. And I will say this. We have, so we are of similar minds. First off, call us the cookie crew.

Cause I also got a chocolate brownie cookie. Wow. 30 for your fucking mind to be blown. I got the same damn cookie. And let me tell you, it was good as hell. I liked it. It was good cookie. I have low expectations for a cookie from a sandwich shop. Usually it's like, it's like Jersey Mike's is like the ceiling

of how good these can get. Jersey Mike's brownies are great. And they're brownies and cookies are great. Both of us. Do we have to call ourselves the cookie crew? Yes, we do. I thought we, before the episode started, we pointed out that we're all wearing blue.

We were the blue crew. True. That's right. And now we're the cookie crew. And also the cookie crew. Cookie monster is blue. That is true. Cookie monster crew. I love it.

I thought their cookies did not look good. So I was really happy that they were good. They don't look great in the pictures. They look, honestly, if you put one of them next to a subway cookie, they look the same. But it's much better. Oh really? I think subway cookies are so good. Ah, wow. I'll take.

Okay. Wow. People are big fans of subway cookies. I feel like even more than the sandwiches themselves. But yeah, no, the cookies, I had one. I'll go over my one last order, because I got more stuff on my last order just yesterday. But wise, I want to hear more of your cookie thoughts here.

Okay. The cookie was good. It was sweet and delicious and tasted fresh, tasted fresh baked. I don't know if they bake them on site or not, but it seemed that way. I got two of the same salads as you, the Thai watermelon and cucumber salad on my first visit and the spicy Dijon potato salad.

Here's my amendo take. They rotate what's in and out of their cold case semi-arbitrarily. So like you mentioned, there's two kinds of pasta salad. And sometimes there'll be a, there's a better one and not so good one. I think it's the same case with a potato salad. They also have a dill potato salad that's not spicy.

And I like spicy foods. I'm something of a heat seeker. But the dill potato salad that they have sometimes is better flavor-wise. It's like a better, it's like a better potato salad overall than the spicy Dijon potato salad. So I'll prefer that one when that's available. But I agree with you.

The Thai watermelon and cucumber salad was good. It would outperform my expectations. A lot of acid to it, a little bit of jalapeno in there, which I think really helped it. The mint was really nice. It was refreshing and spicy and delicious. It kind of had the effect of like a good, like a good, what's the word I'm looking for?

That fucking Spanish shit, the cold Spanish one, the Spanish soup, cold Spanish soup, the Spanish soup. Gespacho, Gespacho, Gespacho. Yes, yes, yeah. Right. You're in Madrid, you might be sipping on that. It reminded me of that. It was delicious.

And I also like, as for- Cold soup and hot salad, huh? The dream. Let's not get into that. The other side I got was the spicy curry couscous, which I got today on my visit. And that's got, that one's great. It's also like, you know, it's nice and refreshing and light.

If you get a small one of their sides, it's like just enough to fill you up if you're having it with a sandwich, but it's not like overwhelming. Sometimes you'll get like a deli-side from only this place and it's like so much that you just feel full over stuff or you got some leftover. It's just like a little dab, basically.

It's like a little, you know, a small little coasters worth of salad. And that's about all you need with the portion size of their sandwiches. So I like their sides quite a bit. Yeah. No, I will often get the almond, rumesco shells or whatever.

I like all their pasta salads that they have there. Yes. I went again yesterday for one last order and hey, get a fucking use that dough boys card as much as possible. But I got myself- Yeah, we gotta have a talk about this. I got myself a salad,

cause I always get the chicken and prosciutto salad, which I love. And then a lot of the times I'll get that cob salad, sub in steak to try, they should just bring back that cob steak salad. It was so good and use that carved steak in there. It was fucking great. But I got the modern Caesar 2.0,

which is, I remember it being new at one point. I think while we were doing the birthday boys, getting that for the first time. It's another thing that uses like the Mendo Krispies in there. But it's a, you can get it vegan, why? Cause it's like a, you can add chicken or you can get it vegan, but it's like a vegetarian set.

I think that they market it as a vegetarian salad. But basically, hold on, I'm looking up the ingredients and I'm- It's kale romaine, superfood crunchies, and then some shaved cheese, which you can omit if you want to make it vegan. Onions, scraped tomatoes, avocado, and a little lemon squeeze along with that Caesar dressing.

So not only did I not make it vegan, but I also, I added in chicken breast. So I got it with chicken. And you know, it was really good. Like their salads are just, they make good salads there. They do, I added Caesar, I got some extra dressing on the side.

And then I got a pita, it comes with a pita. You can put all the, and I'm not a big kale guy and I almost went non-kale, but I just got it the way it came in and I add chicken. I almost got that one. Now I gotta go, it sounds good. It's a good tasting salad. It is, it's a good tasting salad.

That little pita, it's like a hundred calories. You can wrap your salad in there and make yourself a little sandwich with your salad. It's great, I really enjoyed it. And then I also got a chocolate chip cookie. And guess what? The chocolate chip itself is also great. They're both a little bit more good.

They were both good cookies. Yeah, no, everything I got there I enjoyed. I think it's, I think that if this was around the country, I think it would be a good thing for the, you know, it's a good chain, it's good quality food. And it seems like they do things well. It seems like they sourced their food in the right way. It seems like they care about their environment.

I don't know if that's the case, but it seems that way. And I think if people got this for lunch for free, I think they'd be thrilled. Just like you fucking whiny baby should be at Gorko's Planet. Mm-hmm. Well, I went to California Chicken Cafe. I will say that the, also the workers at Mendocino Farmer

universally like just like, they seem to go above and beyond is like in terms of just making sure that you're getting your order right and just being super duper friendly. So that's the thing I always appreciate about that place. They have also, if you tip, you drop a little cash tip, they'll ring a bell. That's a lot of fun.

Oh, that's so fun. I was thinking earlier when you guys, when you, when we all got the same thing, when you're like, I got that too, we should ring a little, we should do some sound effects. You know that I want to always have more sound effects. Yeah, let's create more work for Emma. So Emma, you're already bleeping 11 things.

Can you also add in a little cowbell jingle? Absolutely not. Yeah, or, or, or Emma. Okay, Emma said no. Emma, just, just clip this right here and play it. When, when, when Abby Tal and Nick said they had the same thing, just play this. Okay.

Just play something like that. I like the, I like the combo of doing the no and the whole boy, like we're absolutely not. So it's you saying no and the whole boy together. Yes. We'll have the listeners vote. Absolutely not. I'll touch on my sandwiches.

Oh, go ahead. I'll touch on my sandwiches real quick and, and, and then we'll get to our fork scores. I'll just say that I, that we talked about hot sandwiches earlier and how this play, this isn't what this place is known for. And in general, I agree, but they do have two hot vegetarian options

or at least warm vegetarian options. One of them is the aforementioned Mrs. Goldfarb's Unreal Reuben, which I got for the second time. I'd gotten it previously and let me tell you, I was pretty disappointed. I, I, I think, because I got it vegan and I got it on the gluten-free bread. And I think those two modifications just made it to the point

where it wasn't even like at all resembling a Reuben anymore. But here I just got it as it comes on their panini pressed rye with the proper Havarti cheese, with the smoky Thousand Island I don't think is vegan. And it was, I thought it was delightful. I thought it was, I thought it was good. I thought it was like a really close

approximation of a proper Reuben, which is the sandwich that I like. And then I also got the impossibly good impossible burger. Now they've done a couple of iterations of their impossible burger. This is the second version of it. The first one I actually think was better. This first one was a little bit less

of a conventional burger concept. This one's more of like, they've got provolone, mushrooms, caramelized onion jam. And caramelized onions work well with these plant-based proteins, but it's a little bit more in a garlic aioli. It's a little bit more of a conventional burger approach. It's still very, very good.

And I still liked it, but I think like your chicken sandwich, Mitch, I think if I was gonna get a fake burger, I'd rather just go someplace else and stick with a sandwich here. Like I'd get that Unreal Reuben or I'd get the vegan Bonn-Me instead if I was looking for a vegetarian option.

But, oh, I should also mention my drinks. I got two iced tea lemonades. One's with iced tea rosé lemonade, which is like their pink lemonade. I also got one with the iced tea regular lemonade on my first visit when I spilled my entire drink on the fountain in a straw piercing accident. Yeah, I had the lid.

I didn't realize I had two lids on top of it. So it was like a little bit too much tension, too much surface tension for me to breach with a straw poke. So I poked my straw through it. It knocked my glass or my cup over and then just the entire, and there's so much soda in an entire soda. Like there's so much iced tea in a regular size.

Like you don't think of 16 ounces of iced tea as so much volume of liquid until you see it all across a stainless steel countertop. It was unbelievable. It was a flood of iced tea and lemonade. And I had to mop it up with napkins. Why when you, I mean, you spill all the time. So this is just on you.

But when you were demonstrating for us, why did it look like you were driving a stake through Dracula's heart? Well, that's a thing I think of often. I'm kind of always picturing that scenario. Of course it knocked over when you do it with the force of driving a stake into Dracula. Yeah, I knocked it over and then it was,

like I was cleaning it up. And then a guy who worked at Mendocene Farms, I mentioned their employees are always super nice, came over and he was like mopping up with his towel. I was like, oh man, sorry about that. And I was like, no, I spilled it. And then he was like, oh, like he was like, wait, this isn't a mess that was here.

This is a mess that you caused that now I've been cleaned up. You dipshit. Yeah. And then after that, I went to Phil's coffee, got myself a coffee, spilled my coffee in one half hour span. I don't know. To spill Phil, that's your name.

Nice. I spill a lot too. And I walk into things just like generally clumsy. So I feel better knowing that you have that too. Dear Lord, what's going on with everybody? I don't know. That's my whole thing. How am I the smoothest on the panel?

What the fuck? You're a smooth criminal. Yeah. I mean, smooth below the waist. Jesus Christ. Piece of shit. By the way, there's an update from Sus. So like I said,

what would happen if you signed up for Postmates and just ate all the food? And then I wrote back to him, hmm, what? And he said, like let's say you sign up to be a Postmate driver, never done it before. You accept a bunch of orders and don't deliver them and just eat the food. Obviously you'd be fired from Postmates,

but beyond that, you take your face any consequences. Oh, wow. So this is clearly, this is clearly his big heist he's been thinking about for a while. This is Susser's one last score before he moves to Mexico. This is like Eminem's guilty conscience. So he's like, he's playing out the scenario in his head.

I did have a delivery driver take my food once. That has happened to me once. Oh, wow. Was it Susser? Probably. It was in New York, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was there at the time. Yeah, no, I think he probably does it on the road.

Well, we should get to our final thoughts on Mendocino Farms. So here's how this will work. We each go around, we'll give a closing argument, if you will, and like summation of our thoughts in this chain based on this experience and prior experiences and then end that by giving it a score

from zero to five forks. Abital, you are our guest. We will begin with you. I think I'm gonna go with four forks because, oh, I did that. Four forks. I'm supposed to do that at the end. No, this is great.

I had an experience or past experiences, one that was bad, which I think really was more, the sandwich was okay, the place smelled bad. I can't get that out of my head, camp pretending didn't happen. Then I've had decent experiences on set where I've liked it, but then this one, I just feel like I loved everything I ordered.

I already wanna try everything that you guys have liked, the corn, was it a corn chicken salad? Gotta go have that, wanna try the vegan banh mi. I'm ready to have that not quite fried chicken and the poke watermelon salad again. I wanna try the other cookie. I'm a sauce queen and I didn't even want sauce on that fucking not quite fried chicken.

I was really happy and maybe it's also, quarantine and feeling like I keep eating the same foods over and over, but this was such a nice break from that. I loved it all. I wanted to go. Wow, four forks. Big fan, four forks.

Great score. Very good score. Spoonman, what do you think? I too am a sauce queen with dressing. I'll order more. I always get the extra dressing. Also, you reminded me of when I was in college, this woman, Kristen Murray,

she came to bring me a day Matthew's Live in Chicago CD, which I still like was like, she burned a copy of it for me. And I had a crush on her, but you know, I was scared obviously, but she came to my dorm room and my roommate, who they call Lurch, it smelled in there. This is the guy who left,

this is the guy who left like a toenail clippings wags. I've told you this before. Right out of like revolting. He left the toenail clippings, but they call him Lurch and like, she walked in the room and like, it's stunk. And I was like, and I just saw the look on her face. And I was like, I can't like, the kid was in the room.

I couldn't say anything, but Kristen, if you're listening, that's what it was, was not me. I wish you'd been like, it's Lurch. Just please know it's Lurch. It's Lurch. I don't think he knew his name was Lurch. But that's what everyone called him. And I just thought they were calling me Lurch.

I didn't realize that they were talking about him. You were internalizing it. Today, they call him Senator John Kerry thinking. I went to school with Kerry. That's more of your joke. I like Mendo. Like I said, a lot of, yep, big prayers to Bob. Bob, I hope you're feeling better.

We love you. But a lot of good memories eating it back then. To me, it's like the sort of place where if my mom is in town and she's like, let's get salads for lunch or even for dinner. I'm like, good, I'll take my mom to Mendo, my mom and sister to Mendo. They'll love the salads here.

They're great. I try to eat there as like, oh, this is a healthy lunch with being a little bit not too healthy because that prosciutto and chicken salad, which has like, what does it have on it? It has nuts, right? It has some sort of a, is it almonds? No, not almonds.

Is it almonds? What is it? It does have honey roasted almonds. Honey roasted almonds. It's fucking great. It's really great. The sandwiches are good too. The baby, you know, those baby whiny writers at Gorkos

and everywhere else, they got to calm down. Wags, this is a good quality spot. And to have it everywhere, like, we're lucky to have a chain like this in LA. It's a great place to go. And I do think that it does become a place that's like, oh, it's like, like with people got sick of things, it's still good.

It's still a good place. It's very good. And I had a bad situation with these ones and I won't say what it was. Well, I want to know. I'll say it, but we'll bleep it. I got chicken there and I like cut this thing. And I was like, this is tough.

And I was chewing it and it was a rolled up paper towel. Anyways. Inside your chicken? I think we should hold that in the podcast before. I think I may be, I don't think I said, I don't think I said the restaurant name. It may be a lot. It was in chicken or it was like, just on your plate?

I thought it was a piece of chicken. Oh wow. It was like a rolled up tissue. Anyway. Yeah, it was bad. We'll bleep the name of the chain and then we'll play a cowbell after your story. I would put this above, I think.

I put this, I put this above bleep, the bleeped out restaurant. Cause I do actually think that restaurant is good too. And I think that it's just another place that people, and look, that's a mistake, mistakes happen. And I think it's the thing that like, you get too used to some of these places and you're like, this place sucks.

I don't want to eat there that often. And it's just because it's repetition wise. It is the sort of thing that we just- Familiarity breeds contempt as they say. Fuck, familiarity breeds contempt. I said it. I got it right the second time. Yes.

Look, here's what I say- Unfortunately I have to bleep it. No, we're not bleeping that Emma. When I said familiarity, when I said familiarity right, you keep it in. I don't think you actually ever did get it right. You got closer.

That's possible I didn't. I don't think I ever will get it right. It's delightful. But here's what I have to say. Mr. Mendocino, here's an offer you can't refuse. Fuck. Mr. Mendocino, here's an offer you can't refuse. Four and a half forks.

Wow, four forks two times. Very good score. Four and a half. Four and a half, yes, four and a half forks. I think that, I mean, it doesn't get the perfect five because I do think, I think there is some quality issues that I think that like when it was first starting out,

when it was at its height, it was a little bit better. And I think that like get the carved steak back, get some of that old stuff back. Go back to your old recyclable, you're better for the planet packaging, but keep that top container thing with the- Love it. With the little indent for the salad dressing.

But it's almost a five forking to me. I really think it's great. I mean, hell, it's almost, on the right day, I probably would have just given this five forks. I think it's a good rest. I think I, by the way, might have too. I didn't want to be, you know, I feel like I'm really making my first real impression

on Nick and I want to make sure that I'm, I don't want to seem too easy to please, you know what I mean? Like I've never eaten anything. So I felt scared to give it the full five, but. You're like worrying about making an impression on like a blank white wall. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

But look at that beautiful wall behind him. That's very pretty in the background. It is. I know, he's the most boring thing in the picture. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. All right. Last member of the blue crew, you're up. I am roughly with the consensus here

with my friends and the Cookie Monster crew. I am going to say that I do like that how many healthy options this place has. If I don't give this five forks and I don't think I'm quite going to get there, but I am going to go high on this one. The reason it's not going to quite get five forks is because I think they have some misfires in the menu.

I think they try, they, you know, hey, they try a lot of different things. And some of those things just flat out don't work. I've had some flat out bad sandwiches and bad salads from this place. Like just complete misfires. And a lot of times. They change it up though, which I give it credit for.

Like you like the seasonal offerings. Sometimes they're good. Yeah, they do. I do like that they change it up and I do like that they are trying a lot of different things. I do worry about it scaling. You know, I remember this place,

I feel like when it was kind of at its peak, we had about a half dozen locations and they were all local. I know that, and I know that's the, you know, the spoiled LA people hogging something for themselves. Now it's all across California. There's 30 something locations. They're in Texas.

I think they're expanding to other Western states. Sometimes when these chains scale up, Mitch, as you know, we've seen this happen that the quality starts to dip. That hasn't quite seemed to happen yet with Mendocino, but I do feel like it could be a concern. But that said, good sandwiches, good salads, lots of tasty, healthy options, or at least options that seem healthy

and you can kind of feel good about it even if you are eating like, you know, 1,100 calories or whatever. You can still feel good about yourself. And so I think I'm gonna be, I think I'm gonna be a hand-holding club with the Spoon Man. I'm gonna say four forks, two tines, four and a half forks. And I'm also going to say welcome

to the Golden Plate Club, Mendocino Farms, make yourself at home. Wow, very nice. Can I, why do you think that there isn't one in Silver Lake? That's weird to me. I mean, yeah, there should be one club. I mean, you're right, it would, it would kill. There, a lot of those restaurants,

they aren't over on this side and I don't understand why. Like they don't go too far east. Well, yeah, there's a Pasadena location. There's a bunch of valley locations, but yeah. Yeah, but it could be, I don't know, it could be those, it could be a real estate cost. It could just be that they're like, oh, everyone over there will think that's two mainstream

and it's not gonna work there. We need to have our fucking, you know, our bullshit little fucking hole in the wall spot. You know, I don't know. Who knows? I signed up petition to get them here. I'm into it. Me too.

Yeah. The east side needs some of these better spots. I feel like it's always, they're always a little bit more west. I agree, and especially a salad place. You'd think that would be big here, but there isn't one. There's not really, yeah. I mean, there's sweet greens, but it's not as good.

No, not as, yeah, so that's like, that is like the most boring plane. I mean, like, I still think it's good. It just is, it's like, that's like the real healthy version of a salad place where like, oh, God, all right, I gotta eat this. Why, so you said this? What's that?

No, you go. I was gonna say, there may not be one in Silver Lake, but you're sitting pretty if you live in Rice Village, Houston. So look for your local Mendocino farms. Maybe that's where the Krispies come from. Yeah, from Rice Village. Do you guys have any idea what the Mendo Krispies are? They're not the same as the Rice Krispies, right?

I don't think so. Oh, they're not Rice Krispies, just in general, I know that much, but I don't know what they are, but they're tasty, they work, whatever the hell they are. They are, I'm looking them up right here, they are golden, they're golden bits of Krispie buttermilk batter. So they're just pure batter.

It's like the Long John Silver's leavings you'll get. You know what, I'd still chow down on them if they were human, they're pretty good. They're so good. But it makes sense that they're actually buttermilk batter, because of course, that's basically just fried butter, of course that's gonna be good.

Yes. So good. It's great. Clayton Kershaw had some of those, and then he said batter up and pitched himself a no-hitter. Wow. I still... He had some batter,

and then he made some batters with is what I'm trying to say. Those batters should have been, they should have had Mendocino that day, maybe they would have hit a, they probably would have hit a home run. But they didn't. Yeah. So Kershaw had the advantage.

I don't know, I need sports. I know nothing sports related, except I know that we have a new guy on the Lakers, I forgot who, two new guys, and we got rid of coups, and that's about what I know. Fucking old all-star team, it's fucking bullshit. I love it, old is in, give us more old.

You seen the box office, everyone loves old. Have night, love is old, yeah, it's true. Have either of you seen it, just in terms of the letter box rating? Okay. No, but it looks like Wagspen spent a time in that beach, old fuck. Oh.

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We're here with our guest, Avital Ash, discussing this week's Chain Mendocino Farms. You could just call us the Blue Crew or the Cookie Monster Crew. We're here with the Cookie Monster Crew. We just put Mendocino Farms in the Golden Plate Club and that means it's time for a segment. Waggs, by the way, we said this pre-episode

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Let me have. I'm the Blue Chew Crew. All right, you can join too. Yes. Hey, I've got a set of food-related songs and Mitch and Avital must guess which year they originally premiered. It's another edition of Jingle All the Way

spelled W-H-E-Y. As always, these are compiled by our associate producer, the Drop King, Robert Persinger. So here are the rules. And by the way, Mitch, the Drop King includes this bit of trivia. Because Mitch has mentioned the segment name a few times now, the original name of the segment

was Jingle All the Way spelled W-E-I-G-H. Sean Distin suggested changing it to W-H-E-Y during the Denny's Three episode and Michael Cassidy asked if that had been adopted a few episodes later during the Burger King Four episode. Nick agreed to the change and proclaimed, that's Canon. So there we go, that's how we got there.

God. Sucks. And speaking of Canon, here are the rules. Long and winding road. Of Jingle All the Way spelled W-H-E-Y. First up, whoever guesses closest to the year without going over, prices right style gets a point. And if you guess the year exactly on the dot,

you get two points, that's the Art and Marine rule. So are we clear? We're going to watch a jingle, we're going to listen to a jingle and we're going to guess what year it came out at. And do we take turns? Do we just shout it out? Yes, we will take turns,

you will each get a guess on each of the clues. Okay, I'm going to be bad at this, I can't wait. All right, here we go. Well, you're up against Mitch, so. All right, Emma, let's play the first one. So a great little song there, a great little ditty. The video feels like it was captured at maybe 15 FPS, wasn't the best quality,

but you can kind of get a sense of time and place at least, I think, but that's up to you. I'm wondering if I'll get better at these as we do them more, but I think I won't. I think that these are like, it is just still hard to tell whatever these are from. They're, yeah, they're tough to figure out. Avital, we give you the option of going first, right Nick?

You can go first. Oh, wait, or is it a thing where we buzz in? What does this mean? We'll alternate, but for this first one, would you like to go first or second? That's it, okay. I'll go first, why not? We're here.

Okay, great. 91, I'm torn, it might be 90, but I want to try to go for that two points. I also have no idea it might be neither of those, but let's say 91. 91. So this is where, I'm going to tell you this, this is where we're far apart on this one.

Okay. I think this is, I think this is 1980. Okay. 1980. 1980 might be a little too soon. I actually think that it's, but I don't want to go over, the rules can't go over.

I think you might be right on this. But I do think 80 is like in my head, I was like, could that be 70s? But I was like, 1980, but in my mind, I'm like, is it like 83? It could be 83 or 84. And then after that, I don't, I think that it's getting too late,

but I think 80 to 84, but I'm going to go 1980. Wow. Mitch, I know you didn't want to overshoot it, but amazingly you did, 1979. Wow. It was like Morgan's favorite year. The year my sister was born, I was going to say 79, but fuck.

So did he get a point? Neither of you gets a point because you both went over. You both busted. Wow. I think I tend to think things are older, and so I was trying to compensate. But yeah, we busted. Just like that, the rain and the bear video.

Yes. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. All right. It's not up at zero piece. Let's hear the next. I was one year off, and I don't get a point. You were so close. One year off.

For God's sake. Sorry, Mitch. That's fucking trash. It's a good time for the great taste of McDonald's. It's a good time for the great taste. Gotta, gotta get a bite. Gotta, gotta get going to just one place. Gotta, McDonald's, have a taste.

It's a good time for the great taste. It's a good time for the great taste of McDonald's. Let's go. I gotta say, two for two as far as song quality goes. I like both of these. Nice little ditties, nice little jingles. All right, Mitch, you're up first for this one. This spot is entitled, It's a Good Time

for the Great Taste of McDonald's. Previous one was entitled Summer Song. What year do you think this first premiered? So you watch both of those and you're like, they feel like there's not a ton of time between the two of them. But I think that there was maybe about 10 years. I'm gonna go with Billy Corgan's second favorite year.

1989. Yeah, the lesser revered follow-up to the 1979. It's like Metallica's Unforgiven 2. Yeah. But it's out there. 1989, a full decade later. And in my mind, I'm like, is this in the 90s or did I overshoot it again?

Did I fuck up again? We'll find out in a second, but Avi Tal, Mitch says, 89. What say you? I'm gonna say 82. I think maybe you overshot it, Mr. Slice. It feels very 80s and I wish I could place it, but it feels like an 80s band that I know and where I'm almost like,

I think it might even be sung by this person that I can't place, but maybe it's just a sound-alike thing. Here's why I think it's 89 because I was looking at some of those kids and I was like, I feel like I dressed that way when I was six years old, six slash seven years old. But it could be a little bit before.

It could be 87, 88. And I'm afraid I overshot it again. I was thinking maybe 85, but I was trying to go under. But then, yeah. I probably fucked up. You were thinking, Mitch, you did fuck up. Avi Tal, you were thinking 85. You would have gotten an extra point

because that's the year it came out in 1985, but you do get one point for 1982. You came closest without going over. You were on the board. I'm on the board, Mitch, take that. With a one point lead that in this context, maybe insurmountable. Do we know who the music is on that or no clue?

I don't have the credit here in front of me. I'm sure someone has it figured out. I just Google that it's credited to Grimace. Wow, man of many talents. I was like, how did you Google it? And then I realized you are joking. All right. How did you figure it out?

Another joke that just, another non-joke that's confusing. I think it's because I grew up so orthodox. Again, like not eating McDonald's. And I was like, oh right, that's a McDonald's thing. I'm not steep in that world. I like the 80s band Grimace though. There's an 80s band named Grimace with them.

It seems like there would be, yeah. Death metal for sure. Let's get the next question here. Let's play the next video. This spot is called Gura Koro Burger. This is an animated spot, an anime aesthetic. Wow! So clearly not an American spot.

That ruled. Yeah, these are good spots. Yeah, nice animation there. Yeah, there's an anime style commercial. I'm guessing that was Japanese-wise. I should have looked for more clues, but I'm not sure if it was. I'll be tall.

You're up first in this round. Your guess, what year did this premiere? Gosh, I also feel very conflicted. I'm going to go 2001. 2001. Wow. The other favorite Smashing Pumpkin song. 2001 is the same song.

They're a very well-known song. Uh-uh. Hmm, shit. Avital, that was... You could ring a little bell, because that's what I was thinking in 2001, too. Wow. It looks like a later anime.

My clues are like... It looks like later anime, and then the actual quality of the food looks... Like the picture, when they actually showed the food, it looked pretty crisp. Just the visuals, I mean. Not the sandwich, though. The sandwich, I guess, did also look crisp.

Both. Both things. I'm going to go the year I graduated college, why? 2005. Mitch, you were going to get it, but you both undershot it by quite a bit. This actually came out 2019. Okay.

Was the year this ad premiered. Very, very recent. I would believe that it's later, because it did look... It looks new. I just didn't want to overshoot. I've overshot so many times. I keep overshooting.

Well, you are on the board now. You're both knotted up. You're knotted up. It's one apiece. Here's some more context on that burger that featured in that ad. This is the Gurukoro burger and the Beef Demi Cheese Gurukoro burger.

The Gurukoro burger features white sauce with shrimp and macaroni inside the croquet shell. The Beef Demi Cheese Gurukoro burger features the same base, but topped with cheddar cheese and beef stew. Red wine is used in the beef stew sauce to enrich the flavor. How about that?

What country is this out of? This is Japan. It is Japan. Okay. I thought so. It's weird how you can't tell. At the top, when I guessed 80s, and you said 70s, and it was 69?

No, I already forgot. No, you said 91. I said 80. 79. 79. There we go. That's crazy that you think it would be so obvious that it just isn't at all.

Yeah, you would think so. Can we do a new Mitch rule, where if you're within one year, you get a point even if you're over? No, you're conflicted. I'm not saying for this. Because you're a participant. I'm saying for the future.

For future. I'll run it by the board. All right, next one. What's going to happen is you're going to say yes, and then Avital is going to get one. Let's play this next spot. This is McDonald's and you. All right.

Who's got steaming egg McMuffin in the morning? McDonald's and you. And golden hash browns. McDonald's and you. Fresh scrambled eggs, sausage, hot cakes, juice, and coffee too. Who's got sparkle and stuff? Stay a while or drive on through.

Who's got breakfasts of hot, fast, and friendly for you? Who's got sunshine every morning? McDonald's and you. McDonald's and you is the spot. Mitch, you're guessing first. What year? Oh, my God. This is just hard because I'm just like,

this looks 70s too. It looks a lot like the first one. Honestly, it looks older than the first one. But in my mind, I'm like, this could be the year I was born. This could be 1982. I want to say 1982, but I feel like I should say like 1977 or before 77. I mean, should I say 1975?

I don't know. This is where it gets tricky because it could just be 82. The year I was born, this great commercial came out. I came early. I came out of the, Jesus, I came out of the womb early. Preview of adulthood. 75 or 82. 75 or 82.

I guess 1975. That's what we're going to do. 75. I don't want to pop up. I could tell if you take 82, I'm going to be ripped. I was thinking about it. Wow. You have the option.

I mean, there's a real, I think, advantage to going second because I was thinking like 91. And then when you said that, now I'm like, well, if I go, you know, early 80s, even if I would have been right her, I get the point. So there's a real leg up. Okay, I'll say, I don't want to take your 82. Fuck it, 82.

82. Loser. Wouldn't you appoint because this spot premiered in 1983? Wow. A year off. You know what's crazy? I almost said 83 just to not do 82 because it was as low as I could go without ripping you off.

Wow. And I should have, oh well. Well, you would have gotten yourself an extra point and cinched it and clinched it, but you still have a lead that Mitch can only tie at this point or you can win outright depending on the final one. I will say there is a shot in that one of a milkman, a fucking milkman, which makes me think,

oh, this came out the year that man landed on the moon. Yes. But no, 1983. How is that possible? How was the 79 one older than that one? That's what I don't think. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make sense.

I would have guessed anything that that one predated the first spot, but it's not the case. All right, these are tricky. You're doing well, and we've got one more to decide it. This spot, you may remember, do you believe in magic? I think that I am good at this game and always lose. That's my thought now. I'm good at this game and I always lose it.

All right, go ahead. Sure. I'll second. Good Boston Sports fan logic. Whoa. When you believe in magic, and behold you do, you'll always have a friend wearing big red shoes.

Anything can happen right before your eyes. Whatever you're expected, expect a surprise. When you believe in magic, there's Grimace. I believe in magic. I believe in you. When you believe in magic.

Very Ronald McDonald focused kid spot. Mm-hmm. But what year did it premiere? Avi Tal, you were up first for this final one. I'm thinking 91, but then I don't want to overshoot it, and maybe I'll say 89. 89. 89.

I'm not going to steal your 91. I'm going to say 1993, because I'm trying to get the double points. I'm going to say 93, and just cross my fingers that I got it right. 93. I'm hoping for double points so that I can win this thing out.

Did you get the double points? The answer is no. 1992 was the year. 1992. I almost said 92. You would have gotten a point, but unfortunately that is not a rule. Ronald takes it, wins this round,

wins this edition. That's such trash. I've jingled all the way. I almost said 92. Well, you didn't. Or if you had stolen my 91, you would have been closer. God damn it. I was trying to be exactly right.

You are good at this, I think. Yeah, that was good. Good round, bad outcome. Congratulations, Avi Tal. It's always difficult. Just like a restaurant with all your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today we have an email from Vanessa and Alex

from the Bay Area. They write, I have a weird cat food question for you. Our little tuxedo boy just turned one and we wanted to treat him for his B-day. We usually don't share human food with him unless he steals it, but on his special day,

we gave him a tiny amount of cooked chicken. I think we've created a monster. Is there any special human food you give your pets for their B-day? And then Vanessa and Alex attach photos of who they describe as the demon Remi the rat. I will share these real quick

while the two of you contemplate this. I am not a pet owner, but the both of you do have pets. The cat's name is the demon Remi the rat? Apparently. Let's take a look. It looks like it is a tuxedo cat, so here we go. Let's see this little guy. What a cutie.

That's a cute cat. It's got a little half stash. It's like a stop growing midway. Here's another shot. There's our lazy guy. Living his best life. That's me in high school. The only the half stash coming in.

I'll be told you're a dog owner. Am I correct? Do you have a dog companion? I do. I thought she was saying that or they were saying that the cat turns into a demon when given human food. Oh, is that what's happening?

I don't know, so I'm like, what are we asking? What food makes them happy but not a demon? Or just what people food do they like? The question is, is there any special human food you give your pets for their birthdays? Ah, yes. Sometimes I will give Luke some chicken, but this year for his birthday,

and I don't know if it's the same with cats but I did a little bit of yogurt mixed with a little bit of honey and peanut butter as a little cake and he loved it. Wow. It was good. I had some too.

Wait. Oh, it's human and dogs. Humans and dogs can both eat it. Yeah. Tasty. So my thing is is that I want Wall-e-Nurma to want human food.

I want them to steal a piece of chicken, but they don't do it. Irma was kind of licking my knife when I used it to butter some toast the other because I told you why. I butter toast from both sides now. Right, the Joni Mitchell song.

Now you know the reference. Besides that, she doesn't really... She doesn't... Both of them don't really go after my human food and they'll be disinterested. Which to me, my cats when I was younger,

zip and buster, they would go nuts over human food. Zip was always trying to steal stuff. She would steal a steak right off your plate if she could. So I will say that the thing that they like that's closer to human food but it's not really human food,

this is the ultimate cat treat and a tuna. So tuna fish will work. But besides that, they love their greenies which are these little snacks. They love their greenies and they love their temptations.

They eat junk food and I need them to be around until they're at least 20. So I should get them like smalls for cats or whatever people use for healthy food. But they like nine lives. They like the junk food. They like mixed dry food.

That's kind of... The people are going to yell at me but please do tell me what fancy food you... They're very picky eaters. They have the things that they like and they just... They're like my dad with that turkey sandwich wise. They're not like those fucking whiny writers.

They just do their... They eat their stuff and they're happy with it all the time. But it is kind of junk food. The creatures of routine it sounds like. It's funny Lucas the opposite. No routine. He won't eat his food out of his bowl

but then if you put it in your hand he's like well this is different. I'll eat that out of your hand. If the trash is open he tries to get in. He's like I'll eat literal garbage but I won't eat my food out of a bowl. I think he just hates the routine. It's like this is boring.

Wow. They're unpredictable. Sometimes they'll be squawking for food but tuna fish. That's it. That's the only real... That's a good one. Tuna fish. MR producer recently expanded your family

with the addition of a pup Zatboy like any ever liked indulgently human treats. Kind of like Mitch's cats. She's very cautious about human food. She always if we give it to her she takes it and she walks away with it and sniffs it and if she doesn't want it she flicks it away with her tongue

which is very adorable. But she's a meat eater. She just likes plain chicken or a piece of steak. She really liked swordfish which was interesting. Swordfish. Fancy. But that's pretty much it.

Just like meat. That's all she really wants. So tuna fish for cats. My old cats loved tuna fish so that sounds like a great treat. Tuna fish is a good treat for cats. And this was a great question but I just got another text from Susser

and he's wondering if we have an answer as far as the consequences if you'd face any he's wondering would we face any consequences if you were a postmate driver and you accepted orders and you ate them and you didn't deliver them. Would there be any

consequences besides being fired from postmates? That's his question. You might have to pay for the food. Yeah. I don't think you'd be arrested, would you? Do you think I can charge you a theft? Susser shares his location and I'm checking it

and he is speeding south in the 405. So I don't know where he's headed. If you have a question or comment about the word of chain restaurants you can email us at dopeboyspodcast at gmail.com

or leave us a voicemail at 830-GOTO that's 830-4636844 slash dopeboys. Thank you so much for being here. I'd like to talk with you. Anything you'd like to plug at this time? Please check out antisocialdistance

at antisocialdistance.com There's a lot of really great people on it. It feels very voyeuristic. It feels like you're sort of just watching conversations but it does build to a thrilling conclusion. It has like a narrative arc that I'm

proud of and the feedback has been really nice and I just want more people to get to see it and if you're comedy fans UTK is in it, Amir is in it, Rose McIver who's, you know, comedy adjacent but she's about to be on a CBS

comedy show. I'm so bad at this and I wish I were better at it but please watch it. And I had so much fun. Thank you guys so much for having me and also giving me a reason to eat better than I have

in the last year. That was really satisfying. Hell yeah. Usually the opposite of a Doe Boys experience. Yeah. Antisocialdistance.com Check it out and Mitch, that'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys. Until next time. For the Blue Crew, for the Cookie Monster Crew.

On behalf of the entire Cookie Monster Crew, I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating. See ya. On the next Doe Boys Double, let's replenish some electrolytes. Known Sporto and Dumbbell's host Ryan Stanger returns to the pod to taste test Gatorade

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