Doughboys - MrBeast Burger with Jason Concepcion

Episode Date: April 22, 2021

Jason Concepcion (Binge Mode, Takeline, ALL CAPS NBA) returns to talk about movie theaters and review virtual restaurant MrBeast Burger with the 'boys. Plus, a McDonald's edition of Jingle All The Whey.Commercials featured in the Jingle All The Whey segment:DeBarge sings "I Like It"McDonald's ist einfach gutMcDonald's And YouBack to Basics/Food, Folks and FunWe Do It All For YouWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The origin of Facebook, created by wax statue of himself Mark Zuckerberg to rate the attractiveness of his fellow Harvard co-eds, has been well documented. But less known as the origin of YouTube, a platform similarly powerful in shaping internet culture and similarly responsible for disrupting global politics via opaque algorithms. Like Zuckerberg's former face smash, YouTube was conceived by horny young tech bros with dating on the brain. A trio of PayPal expats started the site in 2005 for eager singles to upload video dating profiles.

But as more general content took hold, they shifted to become the Internet's video clearing house and in 2006 the site sold to Google for $1.65 billion. The platform became known for early accidental hits like Charlie Bit My Finger, Leave Brittany Alone and Chocolate Rain, all of which predated the term viral video and made celebrities out of its stars. And YouTube also birthed a different kind of celebrity. Video bloggers or vloggers who uploaded diaries, rants and skits often in character as broad stereotypes that found traction with younger audiences.

By 2016 the word YouTuber had been added to the Oxford English Dictionary and OG vloggers like Smosh, Shane Dawson and Fred watched as the torch was passed to a new generation, including a Kansas teenager named Jimmy Donaldson. In 2017 Donaldson broke through with a video where he counted to 100,000 in real time and similar outlandish stunts became his viral bread and butter. Today Donaldson has nearly 100 million subscribers and over 10 billion views. And in another eye-popping number that shows his philanthropic side, he's raised $22 million for the Arbor Day Foundation via his TeamTrees org.

In fact, many of his videos include spontaneous gifts of cash and prizes to unsuspecting subjects, the kind of wholesome content that could appeal to even the biggest YouTube skeptic. But Donaldson's ambitions extend beyond his YouTube channels. In December 2020, he's surprised launched a ghost kitchen named for his online pseudonym, a Smashburger concept featuring over-the-top sandwiches and fries. Its flash success reflected his staggering aptitude for virality, as the restaurant's app went to the top of the charts and its 300-plus locations sold out in short order. But will this splashy launch grow into sustained post-pandemic success?

Or like a viral video, will it burn bright and slow fade into a distant flame? This week on Doe Boys, Mr. Beastburger. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, Squinton Marsalis, the Spoonman Mike Mitchell. Squinton Marsalis. Like Wynton Marsalis, the great jazz musician. Yikes. Duncan Walser sent that one in roastspoonmanageemail.com.

I thought that was a fun angle. Yeah. I mean, it just feels, I mean, we're gonna get more and more obscure, right? Like we've covered most things, right? What disrespect to Wynton Marsalis, to call him obscure, one of the great jazz musicians of our lifetime. Hey, relax. I'm not taking anything from Squinton Marsalis.

Wykes, I just think that the roasts are gonna get, we've done everything. Well, maybe we could phase it out, or maybe we could take a breather. We could figure something else out. If you're really, really tired of these. I think there's also a layer of you just don't like anything that's at all insulting. Me? That's the real issue. First of all, I have thick skin.

You make fun of me all the time. Hmm. And I make one little joke about you and whee. Whee. I'm upset. That is, I do say that a lot. I do say whee a lot. You got me.

You annoy me more when you're like, I was in here talking to the guests while you were in here. That sort of shit. That shit bugs me. Mitch, something else that's gonna bug you. I know that you are a, I call you Movie Mitch, both because of your movie fandom and your upcoming movie start-up in the Tomorrow War coming soon, but I was gonna say, some bad news in the movie theater scene here in LA, Arclight Regal Cinema's apparently not going

to reopen to Arclight Cinema's in particular beloved local chain. You can't be happy to see that. I mean, no one could be. It's literally my, it's like probably my favorite thing in Los Angeles that like, I don't think I have anything I like more than it. Going to the Arclight theaters and seeing a movie. Yeah. I don't think that there's, I don't think there's anything, I don't think there's a place I

like to go to see a movie more than the Arclight. I mean, if it becomes the Netflix Cinerama Dome, here's my guarantee, I will jump off the top of it. If it's a Netflix Cinerama Dome, I will jump off the roof of the dome for all to see. The last great show that will be put on there will be me jumping off the top of it. What do you think of that, Wigs? Would you pick any specific, any particular like date to do that? Or would you just kind of do it arbitrarily?

Hmm. My birth, my 40th birthday. Wow. What is that, dark? It's very dark. Hey, I always go and see a movie on my birthday, baby. That's true. So you would be there anyway.

That is, that is literally the place we'd go and see movies on my birthday. That's the truth. Been going there for over a decade. I love it. Right. After your birthday dinner and then before your birthday drinks and then the next day you have a birthday karaoke. First of all, you've never come to any of those things and I did that one year.

I said, let's do, let's do karaoke on another night because people were like, right? We got to have drinks. It's the weekend. So I did that one year and then it's a joke that carried over for you that I'm a big brother. Yeah. I like to see my friends on my birthday. We go get pizza and we see a movie and people like to do it. I don't make a big fucking carnival for my birthday.

I don't, I don't do multiple days. That was one time where Dutton, who likes to party, want to do a little something else. And you love Dutton. Now you're putting it on Dutton. Dutton is cool. Dutton will confirm. Dutton is cool. I will suss this out with Dutton later.

I'm bummed out by, I am truly bummed out by this news. Look, I got a drop to play too, but I'm sure that our guest isn't happy. Who can be happy about this news? Who could be happy about this news? Yes. I mean, we got to hear our guest first. I got to say, howdy ho to Spoon Nation, a very, a very sad, howdy ho to Spoon Nation because of our clay loss.

And here we go. Here's a little drop wigs. The Swordfish has, that's a great music level. Wow. I love this. It's the most heard David Wise, I believe. Yeah. Oh, feels like I'm playing again.

Oh. He's always played with Diddy Kong because he's cuter. Yeah. He's great. Donkey Kong has the big guy thing. He's a hero for us big guys. Wow. Wow.

You know what? I got to say, when I was singing that on the live episode wigs, I didn't know how close I was to it, but I fucking nailed it. Well, I wonder if they pitched you up at all or altered the timing because it sounded like you just came in. Will you shut the fuck up and just give me goddamn compliment for God's sakes? I would like to know the drop creator, please let us know whether or not you altered. I wonder if they altered you to make you sound better.

You piece of shit. I was not expecting you to have perfect pitch, but if you do, that's amazing. That's borderline miraculous. If you nailed the exact key, just off the top of your head, that would really be something. Hey all, as a DK enthusiast, you better mean Donkey Kong and not Drop King. I had to overlay Mitch's rendition of Aquatic Ambience with the original from Donkey Kong Country and it's under 30 seconds to boot. Thanks for years of giggles, Kim, PS, I did not pitch him up.

Is that true? Whoa! Is that actually in there? No, you dumb fucking asshole. Wow what a drop. And hey, what a guest we have today from the podcast Binge Mode and Take Line and All Caps NBA, which you can see on YouTube. Jason Concepcion is back.

Hi Jason. Hello, delightful to be here with you gentlemen. Very happy to have you here. Too long since you've been back. It's been so long. It's been far too long. It's been too long, but it's delightful to be back. It's delightful to be back home staring at your beautiful faces.

That is not true, especially today I look like shit. No, we both look like complete shit. Thank you. That's nice of you to say. Jason, we know obviously you're a big sport, but you're also a big movie dude. I did want to hear what you think about, I mean, this is a topic that's been belabored and you've no doubt thought about this and discussed this a lot yourself, but it seems kind of grim that movie theaters are just not going to reopen, at least the arc light

here. Yeah, it's sad. So the outpouring, there's an outpouring of grief from the cinephiles, from the LA area, cinephiles about this news on the social internets the other day. And someone reached out to me and was like, can you explain to me what is so cool about this place? For me, it felt like going there, you were really a part of the kind of filmmaking culture of Los Angeles.

They have costumes of whatever movie happens to be playing. They're just opened there in cases, in the lobby. When I saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, they had the cars from the movie parked out front of the Cinerama Dome, which of course is in the movie. Very often they'll have the writer or the director or one of the stars of the film come out and intro the movie. And then I've been there so many times just for a matinee in the early afternoon when, as the credits roll, all of a sudden a pocket of people in the theater will just start clapping

because one of their loved ones who is in the part of the below the line crew, their name rolled past the thing. And it's just such a fun experience to be like, oh, this is where the people who work in movies and make movies go to see movies. And it's just such a cool thing to look at the arc deco dome. It's really sad that it won't exist in its current incarnation anymore. I'm sure, to your point, I'm sure that Netflix or Amazon Prime or whoever will snatch it up and rename it.

So beautifully put, so much better than we could ever put it. You said it perfectly. We were like, I like that the picture is bigger than a TV. I remember going when Minions opened, I remember like they made the dome up like a Minion. Oh, yeah. That's cool as hell. And so I'm saying, like, Mike, is that, is that where you would leap off of or would it be the parking garage?

I mean, I'd have them, I'd have them dressing up as the Minion so I know that why Gord come watch me jump off, that's a guarantee. When the dome was dressed up like a Minion, Wyger was just standing out in front of it transfixed on the dome, just staring there like a zombie. Just the fact that you could go and you're in the popcorn line, you look over and you see, oh, let me get a popcorn. Tim Allen is right next to you, right, Nick? Celebrities are always there.

Saw Paine and Gaine with Bug Main opening night and you know who was at the screening? Paine and Gaine with Main. Paine and Gaine with Main and you know who else was there? Michael Bay himself. Wow. Michael Bay was watching his own movie opening night at the Arclight. That's wild. Yeah.

I mean, the amount of their celebrities and stuff. When I saw Iron Man 2, I believe, John Favreau and Robert Downey Jr. came out and introduced it. And when I saw that Joaquin Phoenix movie that I did a couple of years ago, that he was just there for a Q&A. There's so many celebrities that you just see in the theater all the time. It becomes like a thing. That's maybe the place where I've seen the most celebrities in Los Angeles is the Arclight.

But even that aside, I think even the celebrity side of it, there is a characteristic of the Arclights that I don't know if any other chains have copied this element. A lot of what the Arclight has done is like other chains have copied it and then taken that same thing nationwide. The pre-movie speech, which is usually, sometimes it'll be like a celebrity, someone affiliated with the movie on rare occasion like opening night, but generally it's just someone who works for the theater. It's just like an usher will go up there and give a little presentation of what movie

you're about to see. It's runtime, it's rating, and then tell you where the eggs are. And it's just like, I don't know, it's one of those things that I just found very comforting and fun. And that happens, Arclight's a small chain, so it's got dozens or so locations across Southern California that'll happen at any of them. It's always fun to just see some 19-year-old go up there and say, welcome to today's presentation of 12 years a slave.

The runtime is 119 minutes, and they just kind of give you a little synopsis of it. It's fun. Yeah. That's great. I do love that. There's a sense that everybody who works there is, it really just loves movies. There's that kind of energy. You just kind of feel it just in the conversations that people have and stuff.

And you're absolutely right. The celeb sighting there is so fun. I saw Chris Pine outside. Wow. I saw him kill there once. That was great. Wow. You literally, I mean, it truly is like the place where I've maybe seen the most celebrities

in LA. I mean, where the hell else am I going to be seeing them? But I wonder what will happen, I mean, I think the dome, they can't, I mean, they can't. They can't tear it down. They can't tear down the dome. They can't do that. It's a fucking historical sight, right? I mean, how can you, how can you tear it?

I would be shocked. I mean, I also think that just any place that tore it down and then put a new place up would just be fucking, I'd be there fucking throwing rocks at it every day if they did that. But is this after you've jumped off of it? Yeah, right. So like you're there in ghost form. You're haunting it. It'd also suck if they put like a church there and I'm throwing rocks at church.

Oh, I saw a co-worker cheating on his girlfriend there. Wow. Wow. So I had, there was a producer of a podcast I was working on who very, very like loudly had been talking about the long distance relationship that he was in with his girlfriend from back where, like back wherever he was from. And and there I am in a movie one night. And there he is arm in arm with some some young lady who is definitely not his girlfriend.

Wow. My jaw dropped when you know what? I was scandalized. It's good that they've shut it down. Any business that tolerates infidelity is no business that should be in business. That's right. I am very, I am very saddened by it. I wonder, I mean, I hope that there's my real hope is that someone.

Leads some sort of charge to to to keep the the the arc light on sunset in business or the whole complex, not just the dome itself. I mean, I don't I like seeing movies in the dome, but I like I love the complex more. You can get, I mean, you can have you can get a beer in there. It's got the best popcorn on on Earthwags. I like the jalapeno cheese pretzels. They got these sausages that are really good. The food is good there.

They got good food. Do you even do you see movies there or you just go for the concessions? I told you that I that that when I was watching, I was on a date of watching silence and the movies too silent. My stomach started to rumble. Oh, boy. I ran. I said, I got to go to the bathroom.

I ran. I ate a hot dog really quick. What did you say? Did you what did you say when you left the theater? I said, I was like, I got to go to the bathroom. I left and I ate a hot dog and I came back and I do wonder if she was like, why does he smell like a hot dog now? Or maybe maybe that was never an issue.

Maybe maybe I just always had smelled like a hot dog. Why not just say, I'm going to go get a hot dog. Do you want anything? I think I'd rather go to the bathroom. It's the Fat Guy syndrome. I don't want to be in the hot dog. Yeah, that's true. I got you.

Yeah, I mean, like I think that on any I don't even know. I don't even know if it's a Fat Guy thing. I think it's like any date you want to be like, I'm going to go get a hot dog. You don't want anything. I'm going to eat one anyways. Like, I think that's in my head. I was self conscious about that. I got you.

Yeah, you probably overthought it. Yeah, were you going to dinner after that? And it was just like or plans, post movie plans? No, no, no dinner. You had dinner beforehand. Is that's what happened, right? That's why you're self conscious. We had dinner beforehand.

We ate at the Arc Light at the little restaurant there. No, I think it was like earlier in the day or something was. I think it was like an earlier showtime. I mean, it was a long ass movie. It's like three hours long, right? Right. Right. And again, it's mostly quiet. It's just about monks.

There it is quiet. There is there is there is a lot of silence in silence. It's not it's it's not a joke. There are like my stomach was rumbling and I was like, I wish it was louder. I wish it was a loud movie. Yeah, Jason, on the movie topic, on the concessions topic, what are your favorites? What do you like to munch on and sip on when you're watching a flick?

Oh, wow. You know, a classic popcorn. I worked in a movie theater in the year from 1997, 1998. Summers. Wow. From summer, 97 to summer, 98. So every movie that came out in that period of time, I have seen wedding singer, Titanic, many, many times. Dark City.

Oh, wow. Basketball, like it just, you know, American History X. I could go on on. Anyway, that for a long time turned me off of popcorn because we'd have to clean the popcorn machine. And it was a hideous industrial nightmare, like from something from behind the iron curtain, you know, like it was despicable. But, you know, the popcorn out here is better.

So I love popcorn now. I'll go with the milk dud. And I also like, you know, peanut M&Ms, I think are classic. Anything that's very like very biteable, sweet, that doesn't melt in your hand. And then I'll like, I'll get like, I'll get chicken wings, too. Or sometimes if they have those, like the chicken fingers sometimes.

If I'm like, you know what, I'm starving, like a Mitch syndrome. Like I'm I need to eat. What will I eat from this movie theater? I'll get like fries and chicken tenders is my go to. So is an AMC or possibly quite possibly a Alamo Draft House, which. Yeah, which maybe Alamo Draft House. I mean, it was funny because they were looking for a place in LA for so long. And then I wonder if they knew what was happening.

They would they could they could plop in there pretty easily. It feels like but but I feel like every house. Yeah, yeah, every right. Yeah, so I wonder if they they'd have enough, you know, with with with everything that's been going on to to to purchase a place like that. But AMC does like some chicken wings and chicken fingers. And and but some of that some chicken wings can. So when I worked at I worked in the movie theater as well, summer of 2001.

My my scene going into college year, my my senior year of high school into college. And I agree with you. You just see everything you see everything I saw. What was that? I saw you. I saw I saw free previews of free preview of the others, which like OK. Release yet. Mark Wahlberg's Planet of the Apes weird one. Do you know what else is there was playing was and I remember because the song

and I and this is one that I never saw. But I mean, I saw parts of it back then, but Perfect Day, the the Legally Blonde, the song Perfect Day. There was just a preview of that playing over and over and over again. It was like perfect day. Yeah, it was fucking it was rough. And then a big one was American Pie 2, I believe was was. Yeah, American Pie 2 was the big was the big summer movie,

which sucked because like people from I remember I saw like a group of people from Thayer Academy, where I went for one year. Wags, you know this, yeah, I went to Thayer Academy for one my freshman year and I like left and I didn't love the school and it was kind of like prep year and I always kind of felt out of place there. And a big group from like Thayer Academy came in to watch to watch American Pie 2 and I was there and like a fucking popcorn t-shirt and felt like a fucking doofus.

I just felt like did they recognize you or was did you just know it was cool kids? I think they recognized me in the way of like, oh, it's that guy. Yeah. But now you're a movie star, you're a movie and television star and a TV writer and a successful person in this world. And you've shown all of them. Ah, I don't know. I think they tune in and they're like, oh, it's that guy.

Whenever they see me on TV, I think that they're sitting. I think they're sitting in there like a middle management law firm job thinking I should have done something interesting. Like I hate my life every single day. I'm just pushing paper around answering emails like this is absolutely hell. There's like looking on their phone or on the Internet to see if like there's like some kind of like community theater. Is there something creative like in my town that I can get involved in when

quarantine lifts up and then they'll look and they'll see a trailer and like, oh, my fucking God, is that is that do I know that guy and they will be and their bodies will be seized with a feeling of of both inspiration and jealousy and anger that you took the road, less travel. And you know what, you succeeded. Jason, I I truly love this narrative. I really do hope that that is the way it goes. And and and you know what?

You're right. That is true. You guys fucked up every there listener. I hope there's one of your Thayer, like someone you've forgotten about from Thayer, who's like been a loyal day one subscriber, watching you from afar. I mean, there's there's plenty makes good, good for Mitch. And then he just gets dressed down on this podcast. I also want to say that there are plenty of there are plenty of people from there who I like.

There was there was there's quite a few great people who went there. But but yeah, I I I saw like a I think a particularly group of cool kids there. Oh, Final Fantasy Spirits Within came out that summer. Scary Movie Two Wags. Oh, that's a good one. I'm sure it's Age Dwell, too. Poo-dee-tang.

Also Age Dwell. Yeah, made. Remember the movie made? Oh, yeah, made John Favreau. I saw that. Yeah. I found this out here in Obu Sakaguchi. The correct the creator of the Final Fantasy franchise and the director of the Spirits Within.

He's like 58. He's still so young. Wow. He created the he created Final Fantasy one in like his mid 20s. Holy shit. That's crazy. That's that's that's depressing. I don't like it. But I I found I found a good. I found like my I found the movies that were coming out when I was there. And it like more so.

These are the ones I remember. I mean, Legally Blonde and a couple others I said before, but like specifically like Rat Race and Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Osmosis Jones. Oh, Osmosis Jones. Yeah. America. Yeah. American Pie Two, Rush Hour Two. That was like that was like the big I think American Pie Two and Rush Hour Two

maybe came out like on like the same or like very close to each other, like one weekend and then the next weekend, which was chaos. As you remember, Jason, that's like it's like a chaos situation when the two big movies, it's just those weekends are fucking nutty. It was did they have they would have staff meetings with us like for Titanic, you know, like because we didn't get we were like a smaller theater, AMC. And so like the big theater down the street would get like the big, you know, saving Private Ryan Titanic, big opening weekend runs.

And then like when it had kind of gone like three, four weeks, whatever, then they took the reels and literally a can carried the reels down to our theater. And now all of a sudden, you know, we've got Titanic. But so when it was clear that Titanic was like a monster hit and they so they had a staffing, listen, we're going to have Titanic. It's two, it's on like two and a half reels or something. You're going to need to like be on your toes. Everybody, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So they would have like these big meetings about like how intense it was going to be because we're getting Titanic and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's that's we we didn't have any of that shit. We had got worse. We had much worse managers. I think that we're like that we're just like, it's going to be crazy this weekend and then it would just be fucking crazy.

And and and and and also like I remember a thing of like we would scoop popcorn at the end. We would put it back into bag. So we so basically they they'd pop popcorn upstairs and like where the where the movies were filmed and or where the movies were filmed, where the where the where the where the the projection where the projectionists were and like where they project to the movies, right? They popped popcorn up there and they put it into bag.

So it was popped fresh daily, but then they would just be sitting in big bags and then they put it on elevators and then we'd put it in like a big container. That was like a heating container. And then at the end of the day, you'd have to scoop out that popcorn. And I remember like people would be like, like, oh, gross, do you ever eat? You know, I was like, yeah, I still have time. It never stopped me once. I like and that's why I feel like when if you got some of the tasted still,

I mean, you'd go through so much of it, but some of it would be a day or so old. Do you embezzle money? What's that? We used to we used to embezzle money. Sorry to cut. Wow. Yeah, we used to we would we were running this scheme where, you know, you'd sell the ticket at the at the at the front and hand that to the customer. They'd come in and what you're supposed to do is rip the ticket and one goes in a little thing and then they take it and they go off to their theater.

We would just take the entire whole ticket and we would pass that back and we'd say, OK, theater three or whatever, and we passed that back to the booth. And then when somebody came up for the same movie, we'd pretend to punch something in, take their money and give them that ticket. And wow, that and that was just clean, full cash money that we would then split right in our pockets. And, you know, we were, you know, whatever you make in a movie theater, it was like it's like survival wages.

And so that was like actually like a nice little a nice little bonus. And we would do that every weekend. We would do that all the time. We were robbing that place blind. Hey, Jason, have you ever have you ever heard of a movie called The Sting? Yeah, well, guess what? You're in a sting right now. Right, wives? Get him, boys.

No. The yeah, that's a I mean, it's a it's the little the petty grift that goes on in where people are making minimum wage. Like I have no problem with anyone doing anything. Steal stuff from your job if you need to it. Because a lot of times it's like, what, they're not going to fucking miss it. It's an AMC. I do have a problem.

No, I'm kidding. I think that I was I was never I was never in charge of the tickets. I was never a ticket taker guy. I was I was concessions. And then I also worked sweep and stuff up. I'd be like a theater cleaner, which was which was like there was like, let me tell you why is when people are coming out of fucking American Pie 2 and you got a new show opening up in about 15 minutes that you can't do shit

because everyone's been in there reenacting Jason Biggs, favorite famous stunt from the movie. They're all fucking pies. You got to clean that mess up. There's fucking pies with holes in them everywhere. I don't know. What can you do? What can you do? Here's the question.

Wags. Mm hmm. Would you eat a slice of the pie that Jason Biggs fucked? I think that you could probably eat around the whole. So yes. Did he did he fuck that pie to completion? Can I just get a fact check? Oh, great question. What is that?

His this is does his dad see him doing it? Does his dad? His dad interrupts him. I don't think he finishes. Dad catches him. And now this. OK. Hmm. He hasn't fully reached orgasm,

but there is as as we all learned in in middle school health, there is the possibility of of pre-come in the pie. So there's pre-come, but no come. So I'm changing my answer to no. I would eat around the crust, I think, if I really had to, if I was hungry enough. This this this this may be Mandela effect, but does Eugene Levy see him do it?

And then he joins him in fucking the pie. And then they they both finish. It's kind of an autofocus situation. That's the director's cut. They do the autofocus with a pie, his father and son. Jason, we've so I did want to talk about something else, but it's something beyond movies before we get into this week's change.

We don't we don't want to continue with Eugene Levy, his son, double, double doing a pie. We want to move on. We can. I don't want to move on from it. I think it's fun. I think it's a fun world to play around in. This riff will extend the full 90 minutes and we'll review the restaurant.

That's right. You've you've kind of unofficially become one of our burger correspondents. Last time we reviewed Shake Shack and this week we're reviewing another burger chain, which we'll get into after the break. But how where do you stand as a burger fan? Where are burgers in your hierarchy of fast food?

Pretty high up there, I would say, you know, my conception of what fast food is has grown, particularly in the Los Angeles area as, you know, I would count tacos, for instance, as fast food. Sure. But I but I think that it's, you know, up there, it's top three occasionally occasionally number one. There's, you know, I'm an American. I love a hamburger.

Burgers are great. Do you have a favorite chain, burger chain? Wow, I guess in and out. In and out, wow. Yeah, I think in and out's a classic. I love in and out. Great choice. It's never done me wrong. I understand the issues that people have with the fries

and I think that they have legitimate claims to those. But in terms of the cost versus quality issue, I don't think you can beat it. Oh, yeah. Burgers, burgers. I mean, saying burgers are great is just silly in itself, but the burgers are great. I mean, like what it's that sort of thing, Nick, is that so much attention has been given

to the chicken sandwiches and so on in the last couple of years that burgers have maybe now even gone like underrated. Who doesn't love a nice cheeseburger? It's the best on earth. I mean, everyone loves them. They're the most popular food on earth. But the burger crazes was maybe a little too much. We may want a little too crazy with the burger craze.

Yeah, I think what you're maybe saying, Mitch, is that burgers are so overrated that they've now become underrated. That's right. I mean, look, the chicken sandwich is, the chicken sandwich is the one that's, everyone's going cuckoo over for right now. Chicken sandwiches are having their moment.

And I'm not gonna take away from that. Do you have fun with the chicken sandwiches? Like I am truly, I haven't had a burger in a while when we, before we did this episode. And I was just talking about it. I'm fucking craving a burger again. I want a damn burger. I want to go have a burger.

Why? Because I feel for you because you haven't had, you've had a veggie burger, but you haven't had a burger all year. The burger boy. I mean, you shouldn't have that title. You shouldn't be burger boy. We'll come up with a new name for me in time. Just as you've become,

you've switched from the Spoon Man to Mr. Slice. I can evolve from the burger boy to something else. The lettuce lad. I'll be the lettuce lad. I'll happily be the lettuce lad. That fits me to a T. No, you like it too much already. I don't like it. I love it.

Are you eating the impossible burger or any of the similar substitutes beyond meat, et cetera? Like what are your feelings on those? That's been huge for me. And you know, I had an impossible burger. I had an impossible burger actually yesterday from this local smallest chain burger lounge. And it was great.

It's the impossible burger and the beyond burger. Great. I don't really, that's been a thing I like, I miss ground beef like not really much at all because there's enough of a simulation that exists right now. Like the beyond and the,

I feel like that's where the most work has been done is coming up with a good fake burger. So yeah, I ended up actually miss chicken and fish more than I miss burgers. Wow. Yeah. Do you experience any gas issues post-impossible burger? Is that just me?

Great question. Yeah, not really. I don't, I mean, yeah, not that I've noticed, but I guess I should probably be tracking if he'd be paying more attention to that. Dude, let's talk to Natalie, okay? We'll be back with more Doe Boys. Welcome back to Doe Boys.

We are here with Jason Concepcion discussing this week's chain, Mr. Beast Burger. Why? Mr. Beast Burger, yes. Sir Eggplant, how do you feel about that name? Ooh. The Lettuce Lad AKA Sir Eggplant, can I have them both? Yes, actually you can.

All right, great. Sir Eggplant and the Lettuce Lad. Cause they also sound both like titles, like proper titles. Right. I love that. Sir Eggplant is also a little wink, wink about, you know. All right.

Hey, so Mr. Beast Burger is the brainchild of YouTuber Mr. Beast AKA Jimmy Donaldson. Jimmy Donaldson, a huge streamer, right? Over 10 billion views across his various channels, winner of the 2020 Shorty Award for Streamer of a Year and the 2020 Streamy Award for Creator of the Year, which is like the YouTube EGOT. His wheelhouse seems to be big stunts.

So like his featured video right now is I spent 50 hours buried alive. He does that sort of thing. Jesus. And he co-founded Team Trees, we should say, which raised over $20 million for the Arbor Day Foundation. Oh, that's good. Yeah.

He seems to have something of a philanthropic streak. He gives away money quite often through his actual channels, and then you'll see on social media where he'll just be like, I want to give away $10,000 today, and then he'll just do it. Is he an annoying person? I should have looked into this guy, but is he like one of the, like, you know how there's, is it Logan Paul and Jake Paul, those two guys?

Yeah. They're like very punchable people, I feel like. I don't get that vibe from him, but also I definitely, like I would say his content is not for us. It feels like it's for a younger, more YouTube savvy audience. But also I'm sure that me saying this, someone is going to at reply me with a super cut of Mr. Beast saying slurs for 90 minutes.

So I honestly can't speak to his content all that much. He does, he is legitimately very popular and does like to give away money. And that leads us into Mr. Beast Burger, which is what's launched as a ghost kitchen in December of 2020. It's virtual dining concepts is behind this. And let me read you some of the other restaurants in virtual dining concepts, stable.

So they've got Mr. Beast Burger. They've also got Taiga Bites, which is based off of the rapper Taiga. They've got Mariah's Cookies, which is Mariah Carey's cookie brand. Dear God. Mario's Tortas Lopez. Mario Lopez's Tortas and Pauli D's Italian Subs.

Oh my God. Pauli D from Jersey Shore. So that, it seems like their whole thing is they just do celebrity licensed ghost kitchens. By the way, why? Did you see, Jason, did you see Logan Paul? I think it was Logan Paul get stunned to the other night at WrestleMania.

He did? I didn't see that. I saw Bad Bunny's match, which I was shocked at the quality of. I was absolutely blown away by how good he was, but I did not see Logan Paul, no. That's John Morrison. Friend of the pod, John Morrison.

We were chatting with him up until the WrestleMania match and he may as like, stop bothering us. I have a match to prep for. I'm about to go out on stage, shut up. Is it, is the crowd loud? That's the type of stuff we're asking him. Is Bad Bunny a real bunny? The destroyer that, the destroyer outside the ring,

Oh my God. Yeah. So cool. And he was like really selling and everything. Like it was like incredible. He seems to be a legitimate huge wrestling fan and I think that goes a long way. Yeah, good for him. Congrats to that great match.

My favorite, one of my favorites of the weekend swags. It was great. I thought you were gonna talk about when you brought up Logan Paul, I don't know if it was Logan or Jake Paul. I thought you were gonna talk about him beating the shit out of Nate Robinson in a boxing match. No, that was Logan.

That was Logan. And I did not like that at all. I did not like Nate going down. I love Nate, Nate's great. Very fun player. Yeah, I don't know if Nate was... And Nate got put down in a way that had me wondering for a full day if he was okay,

like going forward. Like he got laid out in a very concerning way. I was actually shocked by that where I was like, oh man, I guess Logan Paul is probably a strong guy. I mean, Nate Robinson, that's an NBA athlete. He's an NBA athlete. He's one of the most athletic people in the world. So I don't know if Nate just knew the ins and outs

of boxing or if he had trained as much or something. But, or if it was just the thing of Logan Paul is just a beefy, big dude. And maybe he's super athletic too. It seems like he is. So maybe that's what it was. I think a big part of it is just, I mean, Logan Paul has done,

has been boxing competitively for a while, but also it's just like, there's a reason weight classes exist. It's not fair, but he just, if you have more reach and you're a bigger guy, you just have a natural advantage. Sounds like you're making excuses for when you and I boxed during the 25 hour do-a-thon. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

You turned me into a pile of preserves. Are you kidding? Ha ha ha ha ha. You're like four inches taller than me and you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait me by a hundred pounds. I got pillow hands. Wu Tang would tell you that. I'm gonna punch you in the head,

you're gonna fall asleep. That's what's gonna happen. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. So Mr. Beesberger, an instant hit, became the number one app in the app store and the Android store the day it launched. And it already has 420 kitchens that feels purposeful. The 420 kitchens which we have currently.

And I, at least in LA, at least where I live, Jason, it was delivery only, did they have pickup options or is delivery only? Delivery only through the app. Yes. And Mitch, you went to pick yours up. I went to pick mine up and what a sad, I saw that it was in Braintree

and right near where my father is buried. And I was like, where is this place? And then it turns out it's at Bertucci's, which is like, I've told you about this, like a local chainwigs that I love. So it's this ghost kitchen working out of Bertucci's, this restaurant where I go and I have, I have Bertucci's pizza with Auntie Pat

every time I'm back in town. Me and Auntie Pat will go there and it's a place that I've loved for a long time. You get like, when you were little, they give you a little ball of dough to play with and they got great rolls and salad and pizza. It's a great local chain to, so to see this, to see this, these fucking monstrosities

working out the front door, it bothered me. I was bummed out by it and you know, not that I'm gonna hold that against this place because I'm sure that it's probably helpful for Bertucci's to have these, they must be getting paid, right? I'll hold it against them for you. Yeah, I appreciate that.

Because I mean, is it helping out these restaurants or is it hurting these restaurants? I can't really tell. I gotta say, Bertucci's at least was doing some good business when I was in there. People were getting takeout. So that was nice to see, yeah. That's good.

I know one of the other chains that they've had, and I don't know why they're Italian restaurants, but another one of the chains they have a lot of, they're using the kitchens of is Bucca di Beppo. And Bucca di Beppo, I think in particular, has not had a great quarantine because that's just like, it's such a dine-in place. It's like, you're not getting Bucca di Beppo to go.

So it probably has helped boost some of these businesses. How do they do it now? Are they staffed by the Mr. Beast people or is it that the existing kitchen staff then just kind of run down the recipes of Mr. Beast's burgers? It seems to be a mix because there are like ghost kitchens

that have just kind of come up and they're just like, this exists just as a ghost kitchen, which is, I think is where the one I got it from. It was just like, yeah, this has been four-walled and turned into a ghost kitchen during quarantine. But then the existing restaurants, I think, yeah, they use their existing staff, so that's probably been good for them.

I'm thinking that, yeah, I think that they must get paid to do this stuff, but I also do think it makes just things chaotic, which I'll get into a little bit when we talk about it, but yeah, this Portuguese had taiga bites, Mariah's cookies, wing squad. Oh, it had them all. And Mr. Beast burger, it had all four, yeah.

Yeah, those are all virtual dining restaurants. I will say that, and I guess this probably speaks to the brand above the umbrella brands, like kind of philosophy. Mr. Beast burger seems like above all a master class in branding, because there were Mr. Beast stickers on the bag, there were Mr. Beast stickers on every menu item.

It came with, at least mine came with a free Mr. Beast collectible cup, and on the cup it says, subscribe to Mr. Beast. It seems like this exists more than anything to be like, this is a marketing channel for Mr. Beast YouTube, as opposed to this is like a burger restaurant for its own sake. Funny you say that, Wags,

because I got the cup too, but take a look at my bag, the bag I got. Wow, Mitch's bag says, Guy Fieri's Flavortown Kitchen. What is going on? I got the Guy Fieri Flavortown Kitchen bag, which wasn't even one of the signs, maybe those have been phased out or something. Maybe that's a misprint,

if you should have kept that bag, and then had it sealed up and had it graded, and now you've got like one of those misprint bags. It's a Mr. Beast collectible, but with a Guy Fieri sticker, and who knows what happens to that in a couple of years. Jason, now I'm gonna sell it as an NFT. I, it is, it's a live photo Wags,

so I'm gonna sell this as an NFT, highest bidder, just DM me, we'll figure it out. Hmm, I got a bid already from Wiger. I want that, I want that pick. Emptying in my 401K and putting it all into that NFT. So the, and I will say, we talked about, you know, my current dietary choice, no beat shall I eat.

This place unfortunately does not have a veggie burger. I really expect it to have, especially as a new concept, to have an impossible or a beyond version of their burgers, but it doesn't, it seems like it's just, it's more going into like, we have all the meats. This is our sort of- For meat. Yeah. I also feel like, shouldn't a smash burger be like a little bit,

it should be better for veggie burgers, right? So with like, you got an impossible meat smash burger, shouldn't that be like hard to even, you won't even be able to tell it's meat. Who cares, you know what I mean? Yeah, and you touched on the type of burger they make here. Yes, it is very much in the smash burger mold. And yeah, I haven't seen that kind of, you're right,

I would think a beyond patty could very much work for that. Yeah, my mom, when I was like, there's smash burgers, my mom was like, oh, I've never had a smash burger before. She was excited because she had never had a smash burger. There was a couple of places in LA that do them. Like I had never, I've had an official smash burger, burgers never say die, which is run by a Quincy guy, who I know, and-

There's a restaurant out here in LA. There's a few other places that make really good smash burgers. But that's always, before I knew smash burgers was a thing, it's always like a style that I, before I knew they were called smash burgers, it was always a style of burger I liked. I liked like a crispy- Right.

Grilled, like a crispy thinner patty. I always kind of like meat thinner. I like a thin meat. I don't like when I have to do a lot of like repositioning and moving around and kind of like trying to find the narrowest part of a sandwich to bite, because it's just so fantastically huge. I don't like any kind of sandwich that requires

like outside like construction material in order to keep it together as a sandwich. Like I just, I liked white castle burgers because they were super small. You just eat two bites, boom, you eat one and just get like 10 of them, you know? So I agree with you in that regard. I think that if you got like an inch or two of meat,

that's just too much. First of all, you're giving me size envy. Second of all, that's too much meat. It's just too much meat packed up together. Like I don't, if I get like a roast beef sandwich and it's like just layers of meat and it's like thick meat, I don't want that. There's gonna be balance to the sandwich

and that's why I do like smashed burgers. I don't love like a hugely deep, thick burger. I'm not saying that I haven't had some that I've liked. Of course I have, but. Right. And they double up the patties. So it doesn't feel like, it feels like you're getting a good amount of meat, but they're very thoroughly cooked.

Well, let's get into it. Talk us through your guys' burgers. I got the beast style burger, the smashed crispy beef patties, whatever the in-house, Mr. Beast's special seasoning is, cheese, pickles. I got it with caramelized onions rather than the regular onions, just because I want to see what that was like

and it comes on a ketchup and it comes on a roll. The experience, I would describe it as very aggressive Carl's Jr. It tasted pretty good, but it hurt me. It felt like I got hit in the stomach with like a sledgehammer. It hurt me. I also got the seasoned fries, the seasoned crinkle fries

and they were good to find. Certainly no notes from me in that regard. Tasty enough and well done. There was a crispiness to them and enough material there where they didn't get soggy over the trip. Those were my initial impressions. It's like, this is kind of like Carl's Jr. This reminds me of Carl's Jr.

Yeah, I get that Carl's Jr. comparison, which I love. I love Carl's, I get it. It was a very mixed experience for me. So I got to the Bertucci's. My mom and I, we drove over there and I was like, I'm gonna run in and get it and we were there exactly at the time.

And I told the people, I was like, hey, I'm here for pick up for Mitchell and they were like, it's still getting worked on. And then I sat there for about 15 to 20 minutes. So it was about 15 to 20 minutes later. We got a lot of food, but my thought was when I got the bag, it felt, the bag felt, it was two bags worth of food.

It felt, it felt cold. And I was like, why was I sitting for 20 minutes when now this feels cold? And I will say a part of it is there's a ton of packaging. And then the other part is, is that some stuff was a little bit just kind of cold. Like the fries and stuff, but it's almost impossible to travel with all that stuff, like you were saying.

So here's what I got. I got the crispy chicken tender sandwich, the Nashville hot chicken tender sandwich. Two orders of chocolate chip cookies. One for me and one for my mom. I didn't know that they came in twos or I wouldn't have gotten them. One beast style burger combo, which comes with the burger,

seasoned fries, and I got a seasoned patty. You can say if you want your patty seasoned or not. And a can of Coke. One crisp style burger, which is basically just French fry. It's like cheeseburgers with French fries on top. And then I also got my mom a beast style burger and she wanted no mustard on it. And then also I got some fries unseasoned

because I want to see how they were. And then I also got some beast style fries. So that was everything. And also I got another can of Coke. So I got two cans of Coke. I was really racking up the Doe Boyz credit card here. Um. Yeah, we're gonna have a talk after the record.

We're gonna, if you're gonna spend this much on the Doe Boyz card, we're gonna have to cut a Robert Persinger's salary. Hey, you know, that's fine with me, baby. I'm gonna, I'm gonna keep up in that order. Uh, to the point where drop king has to pay for my order. We love you drop king. For God's sakes, everyone said I'm too mean to drop king.

We love you drop king. But what Nick said is true. The beast, so the beast style fries, it's basically all the toppings that are on the burgers, which are the beast style burgers, which is ketchup, spicy brown mustard. That's what my mom didn't want it. Mayo and pickles, I believe.

Is that it wise? American cheese and caramelized onion. American cheese and caramelized onion. Okay. And that, and that is also all on the burger. Yes. Except for maybe the caramelized onion. Is there caramelized onion on the burger? I think you can get it as an option. Okay. Yeah. I did not get that on the burger.

The beast fries were the best fries I had. I thought they, they were weirdly really well done. I thought they were going to be a nightmare. Yes. My mom and I both enjoyed them. They stayed pretty, they stayed hot enough, but it was that kind of like close to just warm temperature where I think with loaded fries, it's okay.

But with the French fries, they were the same and that it kind of was a bummer. They weren't, they weren't hot enough. The other fries were good too. The seasoned fries, and they actually didn't give any seasoned fries, it was just two orders of seasoned fries. I thought they were, I thought they were, I thought they were decent.

There's, they're like, they're criss-cut fries, right? Why is there a crinkle, they're crinkle-cut fries rather? They're crinkle-cut fries, but I got, mine was a mix of crinkle-cut fries and standard cut fries. Wow. And I don't know if that was a kitchen error or if that was like their, their edge, I guess it was a kitchen error, right?

They probably have multiple things there. I thought it was maybe like, this is like an edgy version of crinkle-cut fries. We got like chaos fries, but I guess that was unintentional. No, yeah, no, that is not, that is not what I got. But I think that the fries are good, but nothing spectacular. I thought the loaded ones were better

than I thought they would be, but they're not like, they're not, they're not gonna blow you away, right? Yeah. I liked the fries. I liked fries a lot. You know what, here we're giving each, we're giving me more nicknames. How about the fry guy?

No. And the fry guy. I like fries. No? It's a more casual, I mean, the other ones are so proper and, you know, sound like something that you would get from a sovereign, you know, as part of your title.

Fry guy is like, hey, fry guy's here. No? Yeah, it's more casual. It's like I got, I sound like landed nobility or I sound like a, just a dude you wanna hang out with, depends on the occasion. You need that silver spoon tidal-y piece of shit. You need, you need, you need, you need sir eggplant.

I'm gonna say quickly, Nick. Yes. The fries especially didn't work on the Cristal burger. I think the Cristal burger was fun, but the fries just didn't really work on there. They got like a little mushy. There was- It has fries on the burger.

Yeah, there was bacon on there. And it was kind of cheap bacon, but I actually didn't mind the taste. But overall, I thought the fries were fine. I just wish they were hotter. I mean, that was more the issue with me. I think that the quality of them, if they were, if they were fresh coming out of the oven,

yeah, I probably would have liked them quite a bit. Mine traveled decently well, and they stayed pretty crisp. They weren't as they, you know, beset by condensation as sometimes fries are when they travel. I will say about the seasoned crinkle-cut fries. I really did like the seasoning, which was kind of,

it's kind of like a loury salt with a little extra kick. The mix is apparently, it's spicy red pepper, garlic, paprika, sugar, and a hint of lime. The lime's pretty subtle, but I thought it was, it was, I like a seasoned fry, and I thought they had a, they weren't messing around with the seasoning. Like it wasn't subtle.

The lime was subtle, but overall the seasoning was pretty forward. And then the bee-style fries, I agree with you, Mitch. In fact, I would go so far to say as, if you're a vegetarian eating here, and make the bee-style fries your main, because the vegetarian sand, which I got, which I'll get to in a second,

was, did not really deliver, but these were good. They're like a plus-dub version of In-N-Out Animal Fries. They're like a more of a, you know, like a gastropub version of the In-N-Out Animal Fries. And I like the condiment ribbons they kind of had over the top. I like the way it was presented. I like the big ol' pickles, the pickle slices.

The pickles are really good. I thought the pickles were great. I agree, and I think you get those, and the fries hold up well with those toppings. I think if you get that bite of cheese and caramelized onion and pickle all in one, it's very satisfying. I thought that was good.

And Nick, I gotta say, the burger was actually, for me, was kind of the highlight of the whole meal. So the Beast burger, which again, it's a smashed crispy beef patties with house seasoning, which I got on there. Sharp American cheese, pickles, diced white onions, mayo, ketchup,

and brown mustard on a soft roll. And I guess also the fries just come with regular mustard, just as mustard, at least. But my mom wanted no mustard. They put mustard on hers, too. And these were also kind of like getting close to just room temperature. They were warm, but they were not like hot

like I wanted them to be. But we both thought the burgers were good. The burgers were tasty. The Cristal burger didn't really work with the fries as much, but the actual Beast burgers, I was like, well, this is fucking good. It's not as good as an LA smashed burger.

You're not gonna get something that's a restaurant quality burger. But if it was a Wendy's special or Burger King special or McDonald's special, I'd be like, these are good. This is good. That was kind of my issue with the burger. LA area burger scene is obviously very crowded,

very populated, and there's a lot of very, very high quality entrance into that particular contest for mouths and hearts and minds. And so I was trying to, as I'm eating this, I'm trying to figure, where would I slot this into my burger routine if I was going to do that?

And it's just hard. That said, if I was maybe somewhere else, this is an option. This is an option. And I'm glad to hear that about the Beast fries. Maybe I'll try that next time. Yeah, the Beast fries were surprising. Like I said, with the other fries,

it's just as hard to judge the fries when they're getting close to room temperature, just destroy them. The traveling process. But I thought they were okay. And I think maybe if they were hot, they'd be great. And Nick, it's good to hear that you liked them.

Yeah, I did like the Beast style fries more. And I do think to your point about traveling, because they are inherently mushy, it's a better travel option. Yeah, here's the bad. So both of those chicken sandwiches were just legit bad. They were, like they were over,

I think that both chicken tenders were, they're basically chicken tenders in a sandwich. And here's what the crispy one has. It's with mayo, shredded lettuce and pickles, pretty simple. And then the Nashville hot chicken sandwiches with mayo ketchup, shredded lettuce and pickles, which is kind of strange.

And then they're also, they are like kind of coated in a spicier Nashville style, whatever, flavoring. These were both really bad. Like so bad that like I took a bite of them, I'm like, oh, the chicken tender is like hard. It just is not tasting good. My mom took a bite and she's like, throw that in the trash.

There's no reason to keep eating this, which I was. But both of them, both of them. Sorry, Mitch, can you say that same thing again, but can you do your impression of your mom? Yeah. Michael, throw it in the trash, there's no easy. Oh God, I fucked up an impression of my mom. There's no reason to keep eating that.

She did, she did, she was saying that. And I was like, I got to take a couple more bites for the show, it's for the show, it's the integrity of the show, et cetera, et cetera. But they were bad. They were, I mean, like almost inedible, they were bad. What was it? Now, was it an issue?

Is it a quality of meat issue? Is it an overcooking issue? Is it a poor seasoning issue? Or texture, like what was it that just made them bad? I think it just was the fact that it was overcooked, but it was hard to tell if the quality is also bad. You know, like it just all kind of combined into being like, I can't really eat this chicken,

it's too hard to get through. So I don't know if there was a quality of meat issue, or if it was a fryer later issue, and they just kept it in for too long. I have no idea, but it was just kind of inedible. And, you know, it's Mr. Beast Burger. I think there, I don't know if this is a sort of thing for people who just don't eat meat.

It doesn't seem like these are the stars of the show, but I expected something better because there's not a ton of stuff on the menu. I got almost everything. And then the same thing happened for dessert. Those chocolate chip cookies were really hard to eat. They were overcooked. They just were like, they were dried out.

There was, and you know, like, that's fine. I can get like a well-cooked chocolate chip cookie with the, you know, the chocolate chip pieces, like, melty, and if it's hot and warm, but these are just not hot and warm, they were just kind of like rocks. Well, yeah, mine were at least soft. Oh, so mine were not soft at all.

I wonder if there's like a vendor issue, you know, particularly with the cookies. It seems to me, if you're running a ghost kitchen, you know, one of the ways that you would try to cut corners at least is finding a third-party cookie supplier that you could then just like have deliver slabs and slabs and slabs of cookies where you get misfields cookies

and just like take the branding off. I wonder if it's something like that. These are cookies that have just been sitting around from somewhere. They're not, certainly not fresh baked, certainly not baked maybe within a few days of that. Yeah, yeah, I'm certain that's the case. And I bet, Mitch, if we compare photos of cookies

that they might not even look the same. Mine had like big chunks in it. I'm not sure what yours was. Was it more of a traditional chocolate chip or was it more of a chocolate chunk? It was, I think they were chocolate chip. Hold on, I'm going to show you right now. Mine was pretty chunky.

For me, I didn't think the cookies were bad, but I did think they were kind of like, yeah. I mean, that's like adjacent to, but what you're showing looks like a subway cookie. And that's kind of what I was like. This is like a little better than a subway cookie. This is like the midpoint between a subway cookie and a Jersey Mike's cookie, which is like,

well, why bother with the calories? Why bother adding to this meal? When you said that your chocolate chunks were kind of chunky, I was trying to think of a like father-like son sort of thing to say, but I couldn't think. Like I'm the cookie's dad? Yeah, is that what kind of thing? What?

Like man-like meal? I don't know, I'm trying to say that you're chunky too. Oh, got it. It's true. You got that tank ass everyone knows about. I haven't seen your ass in a long time. Like physically actually seen it. It's tanky.

Yeah. You can get in, I mean, you can get on my OnlyFans. It's all over there. I'm on there, but you just do front, you know, front and waist up pics of lately. Yeah. Hey Jason, I can give you a picture of it. What day's your trash day?

It's every Friday, so hit me up in a couple days. All right, Friday, take a look out your window when your trash is getting collected. Look at the front of that fucking dump truck and then you'll get an idea. It's dump truck ass. The sandwich I got was Carl's grilled cheese, which is three slices of American cheese,

grilled crisp on an inverted bun. I do think if this is your lone veggie option, obviously grilled cheese isn't something that travels well. It's best served, like the best grilled cheese you're gonna have is one you're gonna have at home. It's just like, it's so maybe at a diner, if you get it hot off the flat top, you can have a great grilled cheese there,

but a delivery grilled cheese just isn't gonna work. And so if you're delivery only or if you're takeout only and grilled cheese is your lone veggie option, I mean, you gotta do something to figure out how to make that travel a little better. This wasn't the case with this. It was soft and cold and it looked like shit and it was also beyond that,

just boring. Like this place's whole thing, it seems like they're burgers and they're certainly with their freestyle fries, they're like going over the top, right? It's like more is more, we're putting a bunch of different ingredients. Give me like, I don't know.

Put some pickles in that shit. Put some pickled onions, put some grilled onions, put a Parmesan crusted bun, use three different types of cheese instead of three slices of American. It was just a very boring, sub replacement level sandwich. It was a real disappointment.

The bread really felt like an afterthought to me, my bread, particularly because you need something with the kind of togetherness to hold all this kind of like juicy material without getting all kind of floppy, but also something that people would be able to bite through and it just felt like, just kind of uninspired, like something maybe you'd get at school,

kind of that kind of grade of bread, and it just kind of was not doing it for me at all. It looked a little smashed. Yeah, too much smashing going on in the kitchen. There's too much. Smashing too, yeah, what's going on back there, Wags? What do you get the, what is the Hulk back there? Is the Hulk?

What's, do you have the Hulk in your kitchen? Is that why things are so smashed? If you have the Hulk in your kitchen, you should mention it. Or let me guess, the Jersey Shore cast is back there? Are they smashing? Oh my gosh. That's what's going on.

Jesus, I feel 100 years old saying that. Dear Lord. We don't know who this very popular YouTuber is, but I pull out a Jersey Shore reference. They're all old now. They're all like 50. Anyway, was this worth, first of all, it's just a very depressing place.

Is it, is this all worth it? It's hard for me because the burger was good. I like did like the burger, but I'm kind of inclined to not like this place. So I don't know. Well, we're going to decide if it's worth it right now. It's time for our final thoughts on Mr. Beast Burger. So Jason, you've done the podcast before,

but as a refresher, we'll each go around giving a closing argument, if you will, final assessment on this chain and end by giving it a rating from zero to five forks. You are a guest and we will begin with you. Mr. Beast Burger, it is not worth it for me. I think if you lived in an area where you were kind of bereft of hamburger options, right?

Quality hamburger options, maybe you only got a McDonald's or a Burger King and you want to mix it up. Okay, go for it. It just was not working for me, particularly in this very crowded LA burger scene. It felt a little bit like an afterthought for Mr. Beast, who clearly is an entrepreneur

and has many, many, many, many, many irons in the fire. I wish you'd take a little bit more of a personal interest in this burger chain. That bears his branding. You mentioned it previously with the cups and the bags and the packaging. It just feels like a branding opportunity of sunk costs to kind of promote his various streaming channels.

And in that sense, I wish the food was better, flat out. I'm gonna give it two forks. I didn't feel great afterwards. The taste was fine, but it ultimately was forgettable. And for the kind of energy that Mr. Beast puts out there, I thought it'd be something more. I thought there would be just something more to it and it wasn't.

Wow. Wow, I love it. Two forks. Spoon Man, what do you think? I think that it's kind of a perfect that we started off this episode talking about the movie industry going down, something that I love. And look, we've reviewed chain restaurants on this show,

but also I think I just have an issue with pop-ups. It's like the streaming of the restaurant world, I feel like, is this sort of thing of like, oh, we have these pop-up kitchens and it's like, well, would I have rather just had Bertucci's where it's operating out of? Yes, I much rather would have just eaten at Bertucci's. If I was to get a meal, take it right over to the cemetery

where my dad is, why I sit on that bench. He's got his, it's a bench. I told you this, the Mitchell, it's a bench. So you can sit down there. His grave is a bench? His grave is a bench, yes, it's true. Okay. His grave, it's like a little bench that you can sit on.

And if I'm gonna go, I'm not gonna bring fucking Mr. Beastburger up there. No. I don't, who cares, what the fuck, Mr. Beastburger? Get the fuck out of here. I mean, he seems like a nice guy. And so that did take some of the wind out of myself because I wanna tell this guy to fuck off,

but does he care, does he really care about food? Or are you, like Jason's saying, is this just a branding thing? Is this a branding thing? And get the fuck out of here. And if it's a thing where you really care about food, then fucking open up or try to open up a place, brick and mortar, I don't know.

There's just something that irks me about ghost kitchens. I don't know if other people who are in the restaurant industry will feel the same way or what the feelings are on this, but it does feel like the streaming to the movie theater world. And I'm not 100% on board with it. Why?

Cause I think that the burger is good. And if I was like to write the burger alone, I'd say that it is like a decent fast food chain burger. Too much packaging, like I said before, cause it's in a box and then wrapped up in another thing. Just too much packaging going on. But snazzy packaging. My mom was like, oh, this looks cool.

It looked cool, but the burger tastes good. And then really the beast fries and then kind of nothing else really worked for me. But look, if that's all it was, you can go and get a good burger. That's like around a 3.75, three and a half forks, the burger alone. And also the coax were fine.

The coax were just cans of coax. They were good. And I got a free cup wigs, which is nice to have in the house. This Mr. Beast cup, because we don't have big cups in the house. So now I got this Mr. Beast cup. Besides that, I'm with Jason, two forks.

I don't give a fuck about this place. The burger was good. If you go and try the Beast burger, a double patty or triple patty Beast burger, I think you'll enjoy it. I think that's fine to try it once. Or if you really love it, you can get it as much as you want.

But I'm just not sold on this. It's something I don't like about it. And I know that this will probably drive some listeners insane, but it's just how I feel. There's something I don't like about it and two forks. It's a two forker for me. And also it wasn't that great. It's just the burger was tasty.

Yeah, I mean, that's, I guess that's kind of a, I'm with you on the ghost kitchens in general. And I'm like, it seems kind of weird and wait, what was that? I just got scared. Yeah. They said ghost, even though you just said it a bunch of times.

Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna say it again. Just prepare yourself. I'll be fine. Okay. So I also don't know, I have weird feelings about ghost kitchens. I'm conflicted because it is,

I don't know, it does seem like dystopian, especially when I was early on in quarantine, when I was ordering some to go food, the first time I encountered a ghost kitchen was by accident. I was like, oh, this looks like a good Italian sandwich. And then we went and it was like a fucking, you know, it felt like I was going to go get the, the shirts in, when Robert De Niro and Goodfellas

is trying to get Lorraine Brocco to go down the alley to like get some free clothing. In there, yeah. In there, in there, keep going, right in there. It felt like I was getting some hot mobster shirts or something. It was really strange. And I, but I also don't know if it's going to be something

that's going to outlive quarantine. Like is it going to outlive the shutdown? Cause people I think are going to want to go out. And I think also just from a branding standpoint, it's, it's tougher to have your brand out there if you don't have brick and mortar stores. I mean, even like an all online business, like Amazon has physical stores as just like,

this is, they're establishing it in the world. Not that they, they, they need that, but like, I don't know. I just kind of, I don't foresee ghost kitchen stand lasting forever. Maybe I'm wrong. Well, you bring up a good, well, first of all, if it is helping a place like Bertucci's make money,

then that is, that can be a good thing. But I got to say, it also adds to the extreme chaos. And I didn't hit on that as much, but like there, there's fucking four different restaurants now within this one restaurant. So five restaurants and they were actually seating people in this restaurant at this point and there were people sitting down

and just felt like so fucking chaotic. People coming up to the counter and putting in their orders or saying, I have pickup. It just felt, it felt crazy. And also picking up for Bertucci's. And I feel like it's got to suck for some of the employees there. It seems like it's fucking chaotic and crazy.

So I, I think it's got to suck. And I think it also lowers the overall quality level. Like it's just like having to do too many things. And, and then also I think like probably being conscious of like, you know, cross-contamination or food allergies. It probably makes that tougher when you're, you're doing a bunch of different foods in the same, same workspace.

So yeah, I mean, there, there are reasons it's, it's maybe not a good trend. As far as this specific place is fair, I was like, I wouldn't get it again, but I wouldn't not get it again. If that makes sense. It's like, if someone, if they were, if like, it was like a work order and it's like, we're,

I guess that's how I keep thinking about these things. Eating as a vegetarian at these changes. Like, I wouldn't go on my own, but if everyone was like, hey, we're getting this. Do you want in on it? I would order some Mr. Beast fries. Cause I thought the, I thought the Beast fries were pretty good.

As a vegetarian, you'd hate that if it was like, we're going to Mr. Beast burger tonight. You're like, oh fuck, I guess I'll just get the Mr. Beast fries. You wouldn't like it. It wouldn't be a good thing. I wouldn't be excited about it, but I'd be okay with it. And I do think those were, those were pretty good.

You know, I go by a lot of names, a burger boy, lettuce lad, sur egg plant, a fry guy, take ass. Take ass, more like it. Take ass. But as for, as for Mr. Beast, the man who dubbed himself Mr. Beast, I mean, I think I agree with the consensus that this just, this feels like a side project.

This feels like an after that. This feels like something that perhaps could use some more consideration top to bottom as a, as a concept. So I'll go a little bit above the consensus just cause it outperformed my expectations. And I'll say two and a half forks for Mr. Beast burger. Hey, Mr. Beast, if you got an issue with it,

come on the show, talk to us. Do you? Give us our most popular episode. Please. Now why is that? Yeah. I gotta quickly say, just a quick review, Bertucci's, five forks, go and get Bertucci's instead.

Support Bertucci's. And we now are in the sad part of our dystopia where I have to say, go and support a chain restaurant, Bertucci's. But go and support Bertucci's in support arc light, support some of these smaller chains. Right. Because that's what the world has come to, but seriously.

Or else Mitch will climb to the top of the Sinarama dome and he will commit suicide. I will jump, I will commit suicide, I will dive off. I've never done a dive in my life, but I'll dive off the top of the minion, the minionified arc light dome, the Sinarama dome. That noggin of yours will hit the sidewalk and you'll be fine.

You'll just walk it off. You're saying I'm like fucking bonk? You piece of shit? You got a bonk head. And I don't have a bonk head. Well, we'll figure this out after the break. We'll be right back with more dough boys. Welcome back to dough boys.

We are with Jason Concepcion. That was our review of Mr. Beesberger. It's time for a segment. We've got a set of fast food jingles and Mitch and Jason have to guess what year they're from. Wow. It's Jingle All the Way spelled W-H-E-Y. The worst part about this is the way way is spelled.

It used to be W-E-I-G-H and then we got the note to change it to W-H-E-Y. And then we got the note to change it to W-H-E-Y and that's what it is now. The rules. Whoever guesses closest to the year... Who eats waved? Am I the one who got mad when it was spelled way?

W-E-I-G-H? I mean, I'm mad about both of them to be clear. Yeah, I mean, you're just, I just think mad is like your default state. So who knows what the trigger was. Let's go, let's get into this. Here are the rules. Whoever guesses closest to the year

without going over gets a point and if you get the year exactly, you get two points. This is the Art and Marine rule. So Emma is going to play each of these jingles and then you each will take turns guessing what year they are. And this week's theme are all McDonald's commercials. Staying in Burger Town, vintage McDonald's commercials.

Guess the year, Emma will play it and then see who comes closest. Emma, let's start things off. I like it. McDonald's is a place for our favorite taste. We're working up an appetite. I like it. The choices on the menu.

Have a good thing going on every bite. Stuff from McDonald's in the term of the day. You taste so good, you're gonna escape. I like it. I like it. It's a good time for the greatest McDonald's. I'm an unknown. I fucking love that.

Damn. That was great. That was debarge. That was so good. And we sort of see that vintage window blinds effect, visual effect going on in the background. This is a hard, this is a tricky one to place. It was a, this is a good first one.

It's tricky to think of where exactly this is, but I have an idea. Who goes first? I have an idea too, yeah. All right, well, Jason, you're our guest. We'll have you go first and then we'll trade off. Debarge, of course, who could forget Debarge's classic hit, The Rhythm of the Night,

to the beat of The Rhythm of the Night, something, something, something else. And then I wanna say that was, that feels like an early 80s thing. I'm gonna say 1983. I'm gonna put it right there. 1983 is the year. Wow. 1983.

All right, Mitch, what do you think? It's very interesting to me because it feels 80s, but then it also feels, just the look of the commercial felt a little dated too. Like it does look like early 80s, but then I was wondering if this could also be early 70s. If it could be, I mean, I'm sorry, late 70s, like 78 or 79.

So maybe that's where I'm gonna go in that area just to, if Jason's 83. I think 83 is a great guest, by the way. But I'm gonna go a little farther back. Oh man, but that's wrong. Just because there was that, there was that graphic. But I mean, they had graphics in the 70s too, right? All right, I'm gonna go some, I'm gonna go 78.

I'm gonna go a little earlier. Maybe this is before they got their big hit. 1978. Too early, fuck. From Mike Mitchell, is too early. As is 1983, is actually 1984, but Jason, you were closest, you get a point. Damn, Jason, you nailed it.

Damn. It does feel older than 84, but that was the year that Debarge commercial premiered. I got a new note then. That's a shitty ass commercial for, I mean, like, I mean, it looks like shit, right? I mean, it does, right? It did look like shit.

It looks bad. It looked thoroughly like, I mean, like E.T. had come out. You know what I mean? Yes, yes. All the Star Wars had happened already, and this is what you're doing, you're fucking McDonald's, like pick it up. Jason, good point.

Fucking toss E.T. in that thing. You would have been fun to see him. Well, we'll see if this next spot is at all better for the year it came out in, and we're going all the way to Deutschland. This commercial is McDonald's ist einfuckgut from McDonald's Germany. Einfuckgut?

In einfuckgut? Einfuckgut. Ist einfuckgut. Is einfuck... Translates to McDonald's is simply good. Okay. ["Einfuckgut"] Okay.

Whoa. ["Einfuckgut"] We're seeing a little boy get his hair cut. ["Einfuckgut"] Ha ha! ["Einfuckgut"] Einfuckgut! Ha ha ha ha!

["Einfuckgut"] It sounds like a... It sounds like horny Groot. Ha ha ha ha! Einfuckgut. That's what it sounds like. A weird sort of narrative there, which is just a kid getting a haircut and he hates it.

It's like 20 seconds of the commercial is just him being like really, really upset that his hair's getting cut, and then he's being rewarded with McDonald's at the end. Right, so he hates it, by the way, to the point that the barber is very roughly like pushing his head to the side, so that he can get to the places that he needs to cut,

because the kid just hates it so much, he will not cooperate. And also, what else would you like to think about when you think about hot McDonald's fries and hair, loose hair? Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha! All right, Mitch, you're up first.

What year did McDonald's ist Einfuckgut? Well, this is Einfuckgut. I feel like... I feel like this is tricky because this feels very 80s to me. And now I'm like, is this now older than fucking the last one, or is it coming a little later?

Is this like an 88 commercial? And this is... What country is this wagger? It's from... Germany. Germany, it is... Okay, Deutschland, you said. Now, Germany, when you say Germany,

like West Germany, or the... 1991, I think would have been post-unification Germany, I believe. Wow. The Berlin Wall was down to what, 89 maybe? Maybe that's why he hated being in that chair. Maybe there could be something going on. Maybe that was it.

Oh, man. I'm gonna go 87. I think it's in the 80s, but I... It could be 10 years earlier. It could be 78. 1987. The first one threw me off so much because the first one felt older.

And now this feels 80s, but I don't know, 87. I'm going 87. All right, Jason, Mitch says 87. What say you? Yeah, I think that that is... That eras feels broadly correct. The kind of like, gauzy cinematography

that made it feel as if, you know, you're looking at something like through a family album. Right. That was certainly a style around then. I think that it feels as if, you know, the kind of like childhood motifs of trying to, again, wrangle and wrangle this rebellious child who is refusing to submit to authority

feels very kind of like the dregs of the Cold War. I'm gonna say pre-unification also. I'm gonna put it at... I'm gonna put it at 1990. I'm gonna say it's 1990. 1990. That's a great guess. And also, there is that other thing, too,

of like, you know, the Germany-McDonald's commercial wags. I've said this before, but that could be from like the year 2000 and Germany's just behind the times, you know what I'm saying? Right. That's true, too. It's always tough to tell with Europe when they adopt American trends.

However, Jason, you again have come closest. 1991, this commercial premiered. Fuck, later than I thought. And I'll tell you what, it's ain't fuck good as well. Damn, Jason, you are really killing it. And also, just showing some knowledge. It seems like you have an idea of history, which I have no concept of.

I don't really know American history or, you know, European history. It's just out the window. So that doesn't help me at all. So I think that I should be able to go first again because of my disadvantage. All right. The next ad. Jason, we'll be going first for this one.

This features the nonstandard McDonald's river boat. This is McDonald's and you. Okay. McDonald's and you. McDonald's and you. Sharing good times together, wherever with you. McDonald's and you. And you.

And you. Sharing a good time. And no matter where we do, remember there's only one McDonald's and there's only one you. You. Together. McDonald's and you.

Oh, there was a little hint at the end there. We saw some cars. Yeah, there was also the, the, so the you is, is Ronald McDonald, appearing abruptly and full frame and pointing to camera like Uncle Sam, just like you, just out of nowhere. It is a little jarring. A truly horrific image that will haunt me

for the rest of my days. Yeah, it was not fun. It was not fun to look at. I agree with you. It was, it was, it was a little terrifying. I get why he's, I mean, I'm sad that Ronald is gone in some ways, but, but it's, I think it was the right move.

I'm going to get him the fuck out of there. So that featured the river boat McDonald's, which is it, which was located in St. Louis, Missouri. Until I, until I hijacked it. Ocean's 11 style. Jason, you're up first. What year do you think McDonald's and you first aired? Man, this is really tough.

I'm not good at IDing cars either. This feels, you know, I think it really feels like McDonald's I'm just guessing here in spitballing, but this feels like pre their kind of engagement with pop culture and pop culture trends when they were really seem seeming to market to adults in this ad less children that, you know,

less young people. So I'm going to say, I'm going to say 1980. 1980 on the dot. Mitch, what do you think? This feels mid 80s to me. You know what I think this is? This is 1986.

The Red Sox and the Mets are playing. I bet you Bill Buckner saw that fucking terrifying McDonald's before the ball went between his legs. Rest in peace, Bill Buckner. I was never mad about that. I also was for when that happened. So, but he always got too much shit, but I think it's around.

I think it's mid 80s. I think it feels there's malls. There's like kind of like shitty 80s cars that had like some had like a 70 vibe to it. It feels mid 80s. These are hard because again, Drop King, you tricky fuck. They're all kind of they're all they all kind of feel similar.

They're like, they feel they feel like they feel like they could all be like clustered together there. They feel close, but I'm going to say 87. I'm sorry, 86. 86 from Mitch. Yes, I should mention these these as always, as always jingle all the way, compiled by our associate producer,

the Drop King Robert Bersinger. You both are equally close. However, Mitch, you went over. Oh my god. So Jason gets it. 1983 is when this commercial first premiered. Wow. All right.

Yeah, that makes sense. All right. Couple more. Jason, I believe has clinched it, but Mitch, you can still play for personal pride. Let's play the next one. What if I what if I get to what if in the next two, I get the two point ones.

That's true. I forgot about the Darden Marine rule. If you if you two point both of these, if you exacto both of these, you can you can take it. So here we go. Oh, wow. Food folks and fun. Food folks and fun.

So the visuals. Food folks and fun. Food folks and fun. What it lands on the full screen graphic. The visuals, which our listeners are not getting, obviously have a lot of clues in them. We've got someone rollerblading towards the end, some inline skates.

We've got someone using a businessman, an important businessman pushing a stroller, but also using an old time brick cellular phone, one of those big bulky cellular phones, those 1.0 era cellular phones. And then we've also got a it's like presented as a novelty that a woman is in the corporate world. It's incredible.

Unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. You can see you can feel the social changes happening. There are there is a non white person, maybe even two in this ad. So, you know, the fabric of the country is slowly changing and it's reflected in this ad.

An old white man boss sees it and his jaw drops to the floor and his eyes shoot out of his head like a cartoon wolf. Yeah. And then he see he walks in and he sees the woman in his workplace and he says, what is she doing here? Get out. Yeah. And then he's like, thank God, there's still McDonald's.

Yes. Some things haven't changed. And they thought this would appeal to people, the sick fucks. All right, Mitch, what year do you think this came out? 1994, Nick, locked. Wow. 94. Locking in at 94 immediately.

12 years old. Woo. And 94, 11 to 12 years old rollerblades. I think it's 94. I mean, there's a chance it's 95. I'm trying to get it on the dot here. So there's a chance it's 95 and I'm going to be bummed out, but I'm going to go 94.

I admire the big swing, locking it in immediately. Jason, what do you think? The guitar and the cinematography, you know, the kind of guitar, acoustic guitar vibe of the song, it evokes like a real four non-blondes kind of feel. Break breakdown. I feel as if, you know, I feel as if this is going to be, I want to say 1992.

Wow. I'm going to say 92. I'm a little troubled that there isn't more kind of like overt grunge in this, but then again, they are trying to appeal to a wider cross-section of America. They didn't want to, they wouldn't want to just kind of segment it like that. You've got the guitar which would cross over to some of the, the Alt Rock fans, but also is evocative of like Garth Brooks and things that were happening at the time.

I'm going to say 1992. I'm locking it. You know what? Jason, more like Jordan. It's, you know what? It's a pleasure just watching you play the game because you're damn good at it. Damn good. By the way, I want to clear up my thing of the boss wasn't attracted to the woman.

He was shocked to see a woman when the jaw hit the floor. Right. That's also the horny wolf. I think it got confused there. Whatever. We'll edit it out. All right. Amazingly, you both overshot it.

I am shocked that this came out in 1990. Wow. Wow. This adds- I'm surprised. That's surprising. It predates McDonald's ist Einfach Gutt. Oh my God.

Ist Einfach Gutt. Einfach, that's, that blows my mind. Yeah. Really wild. I had no idea that Big Brick cell phones were around in 1990, but there we are. Wow. And inline skating. It felt like it was later than that.

Damn. I guess the last one just got to be worth four points, I guess. All right. Here's the final one. Quidditch rules happening here. Here's the golden finch. Let's play this one, Emma. Let's play number five.

We do it all for you. You, you're the one. You're why we do it right now. You, you're the one. You're really out of sight, yeah. You're why we're always near, close by, right on your way. We'll make it right for you because you deserve a break today at McDonald's. We do it all for you.

Wow. Wow. Definitely a shot on film, definitely from a different earlier era than what else we've seen so far. And kind of, it sounds like kind of a monkey's-esque track. Sure does. Trying to push us back to the sixties? No, I'm saying, I'm just saying what I'm picking up from it.

But I leave it to you in terms of what year this actually came out. So let's see. This brings us back to Jason. Yes. Jason, you're guessing first year. Yeah. So, you know, I'm here. I hear what you're saying with the monkeys, but I'm more hearing like happy days.

That's the vibe I'm getting. And you know, just kind of like the haircuts and stuff, I'm thinking like Christy McNichol, these kind of like young celebs of mid-seventies, you know, mid to later-seventies. I'm going to pin this at nineteen seventy-six, I'm going to put it right there in nineteen seventy-six. I was going to choose the Bicentennials, that's what was in my head. Wow. Jason, guessing nineteen seventy-six, Mitch, that's off the board.

So what say you? A great, a great guess. I truly, I was thinking the Bicentennial. We can share it. I would love to share it, but you know what, Jordan shot to shot. You play the game that you, you play the game you want to play and I'm going to, I'm going to go with my second thought, which is nineteen seventy-eight a year before my sister was born. Nineteen seventy-eight.

Seventy-eight. I think it is or I think seventy-six might be it. Jason, I don't know as a Knicks fan how you're feeling about all these Jordan comparisons. I guess he is the goat, but. Yeah, I'm fine with it. I've honestly just been kind of like throughout this, this particular part of this segment, just kind of ruminating on the desperation of the tag, we do it all for you. It's so, there is a real hint of, of, of, you know, like, of depression and like, don't

you understand that we do this for you? We're doing this for you. And I've just kind of been ruminating on what led them to that place. It must have been, you know, kind of dire times I, I would imagine for McDonald's at this particular era. Jason, I've ever told you that you are like the mellow of this game. You are like the. Well, unfortunately, you both come up empty with this one.

Wow. 1975, that said, Jason, Jason, you still win this edition of Jingle all the way, way spelled W-H-E-Y. Very well played. If we ever have an all-star game, which by the way, probably should for the fucking doathon, wow, an all-stars game, then, then, uh, well, it's, it's impossible. You know what? That's too hard to do.

I love that you just extend the invitation and immediately snatched it away. It's, it's gone, it's gone. All right, it's too, I just realized how complicated it was. Too complicated. Very, very well played, uh, uh, on B, uh, or for our champion, Jason Concepcion. Yeah, you can guess. That was Jingle all the way, just like a restaurant, you buy your feedback. Let's open up the feedback.

Today we have an email from Eva. Eva writes, if you could make a burger out of individual elements from other fast food burgers, which ones would make the best final burger, like the bun from Wendy's, the sauce from In-N-Out, the meat from, I don't know actually. So best final burger, we're combining a bunch of different burger components. Having read this question, my first, my bun instinct, I feel like this is a bun that gets forgotten.

Arby's has great buns, especially that onion roll, that onion roll is great. And I feel like that onion roll with a burger would be very, very satisfying. I would, I would mean to stop that. I love that big Mac bun though. I mean, I mean, my bun is good. It's a classic bun. I think my answer might just be the big Mac. No alterations, no alterations.

I mean, I think that there's, there's, look, I definitely want to pull something from, from the Dave's, Dave's double, you know, like, I think that the two, the two patties with cheese from the Dave's double might be fucking, might be the thing to pull out of there. I don't know. And then also there's things I like about the Whopper. It's just, this is, this is very hard, but let's, let's try to figure it out. I mean, like, I guess a part of it too is like, what type of components do

you even like on your burger? It's going to be so personal to each person. Cause like, who has the best onions is moot. If you don't like onions, period. That's true. Damn, Wags, what if you, what if you, all right, hear me out here. Yes, please. If you made an in and out style burger, but you got the two Dave's patties, the two,

but then now are we going too thick? The thing I complained about earlier in this episode, are those two, is that too thick for the in and out style? That is very, very thick. It's thick. I was thinking like an in and out, in and out meat with, with an Arby's. You swung me with your, with your impassioned defensive Arby's. I think an in and out kind of entered with an Arby's bread.

Would to me be an improvement over both. And here we go in and out, in and out patties with cheese, Arby's bread, Wendy's lettuce, Burger King's onions and McDonald's Big Mac sauce, Wags. Wow. That's quite a Frankenstein you've constructed there. I would also put a, if I was going to put, uh, use some bacon, use some chain bacon, I do think that the bacon from Carl's Jr. Hardee's is a pretty good bacon. I mean, like as fast food, I guess you could also make a case for the Wendy's

bacon. The Wendy's bacon, I think is good. Yeah. Yeah, I would, I would pull those out. I'm trying to think of like good onions and I feel like Carl's Jr. also has some pretty great onions too. And they got good pickles. You can also get the onion rings on there.

I was also going to say, I feel like we're probably to the frustration of any of our listeners, neglecting sub regional chains. And I will say the cheese on the Culver's cheeseburger is very good. Like Culver's has, I mean, you, you should expect it. It's from America's Dairyland, Wisconsin. They should have great dairy. And, and yeah, I feel like if you pulled the cheese from a Culver's, that would plus up any burger.

Do we, are we making five guys, uh, fans mad? I mean, I don't know, probably we are, uh, does five guys have a good bun? I can't remember. I feel like it's like, it gets, it's fine. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. I actually think the meat from five guys, if anything, is kind of their standout,

but also just like they just have so many top, I mean, you could take like, what, give me the, take the fucking steak sauce from five guys. Are you happy? We got five guys in there. My, my, my thing is, is like, what, what is, what is the meat in cheese? That is the biggest question for it. Seems like in an au burger, which I get, it does have great beef. Honestly, for me, after that, I'd probably go Wendy's.

I do, I, I really like the Wendy's beef. I know that people think we overpraise Wendy's. I just genuinely think it, I love Wendy's. And then after that, you're right. Maybe five guys, five guys would be some of my top ones as far as beef contenders. We've also haven't mentioned Shake Shack, which you reviewed previously, Jason. And obviously, we haven't been in a long time. It feels like we haven't been in a while.

Like where do you stand on Shake Shack's various components? I think that Shake Shack is wonderful. I am, I will admit my bias as a New Yorker and this being a New York chain. I remember, not quite fondly, but remember the days when there was only one Shake Shack. It was in Madison Square Park and you had to check a webcam to see how long the line was. And, and Goldman Sachs had like their own dedicated line. Like they would just like cut the plebs and like get their, get their burgers for their entire like world destroying corporation.

That said, you know, a great ingredients, well seasoned, well cooked, juicy burger. I'm a big fan of Shake Shack and I'm a big fan of all the components that they have. Their shakes are also stand out very good. They've since, you know, in the intervening years entered the kind of chicken wars with both their chicken bites and their chicken sandwich. And those are all quality offerings that I that I highly recommend. They've they've improved their burger offerings. They've kind of like got like forgetting the name, it's like the roadside burger,

which is more of like a melted cheese and caramelized onion thing. They there's everything there is worth having at least once. I think I think I think Shake Shack gets too much hate these days. Too much, too much, too much more like Shade Shack. Why is people thrown shade more like Shake Shack Shade Shack? Yeah, they've been kind of, I think what happened while I had some frustrations with Shake Shack just because I think they overexpanded and I think some of their chains, some of their their outlets are like a little less,

you know, they're just not up to the standard of the ones in New York. Yeah, which I think is a fair criticism. But yeah, I think I think there's maybe been I think there was also a backlash just to the hype because everyone who had Shake Shack before it was big was like, this is the fucking best. And then you have it and you're like, well, I know it's like people have similar reactions in and out. So but yeah, let us know online. Hit us up with your particular concoction, your abomination,

your burger that would scream, kill me if actually created hashtags. Frankenburger, hashtag Frankenburger. And if you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at dobuyspodcast.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-463-6844. You can get the Doughboys double our weekly bonus episode by joining the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash Doughboys and hey, you create this monster burger and then you find out it threw a girl in the river.

How would you feel about that? Yeah, I know you then you'd feel conflicted about eating it. Yeah, you feel. Anyways, you were saying about the Do-A-Thon. The first annual Doughboys Do-A-Thon, a 25 hour live stream for charity will be May 1st only on twitch.tv slash Doughboys podcast. Will there be a best of Jingles Jingle All the Way Listener? Will there be a Jingle All the Way All Stars?

No, there will not. No, the answer is no. We've already decided it's technically impossible. Goin' it again, Mitch. You got my hopes. You brought them up and then you dashed them and you did it again. Jason, I'll be honest with you. I would like to see you compete against other All Stars.

I would like to see you compete against them, but it's not going to happen. No, it's not going to happen. Jason Concepcio, what a treat. What a thrill to have you back. Check out TakeLine, check out All CapsNBA if you are a fan of the league and anything else you would like to promote. No, those are the things. Thank you for having me on.

You know what? Doughboys is a fuck good. Wow. Wow. What a compliment. That's a true honor. The nicest thing that's ever been said. High praise.

And on that note, that'll do it for this episode of Doughboys. Until next time, for Mr. Slice, Mike Mitchell, I'm the lettuce lad, Nick Weiger. Happy eating. See ya. On the next Doughboys Double, we're reopening up the feed bag. Go to the pod, you song Lou is back, and we're a-ing all your cues. What's the right diameter for an onion ring? And that kind of stuff.

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