Doughboys - Munch Madness: Qdoba vs. Del Taco with Matt Apodaca

Episode Date: March 21, 2019

In the last semi-final match of Munch Madness, we're joined by Matt Apodaca (Candy Dinner, What's With These Homies Talkin' About Weezer) to determine who advances to the chompionship finals between Qdoba and Del Taco. Plus, a special popcorn edition of Snack or Wack. Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is a headgum podcast. 1964, in the Mojave Desert town of Yermo, California, Ed Hackbarth opens a Mexican fast food eatery called Casa del Taco. Hackbarth, a former underling of Taco Bell founder Glenn Bell, scores an immediate hit with his 19-cent tacos and 24-cent burgers, quickly expanding to nearby Barstow, the midpoint between LA and Vegas on Interstate 15. Its high visibility Barstow outlets help grow the business to its current prevalence if not outright dominance in the western United States, and in the process Hackbarth drops

the word Casa from the name to create its current nonsensical brand. 1999, a copyright dispute forces Denver-founded fast-casual Mexican outlet Zuma to change its name. The company taps ad agency Heckler Associates for the rebrand, who lands on a completely made-up, vaguely-as-tecan-sounding three-syllable word, which would stick as the outlet grows to over 700 locations across the nation. Today, these concepts represent two of the five largest Mexican-American chains on the planet, but only one can emerge victorious and progress to the choppionship round.

Which of these pseudo-Spanish-chipperish brands will surpass the final roadblock on the road to the finale? This week on Doughboys, the second semi-final matchup in Munch Madness 2019, the Tournament of Chompions, mouth of the border, Del Taco. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host, Gaseous Clay, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. I like that one. Kevin sent that over.

I'm not really... Who? Kevin who? Hopefully the smartest minion. He's the smartest one? He's the smartest, tallest minion, kind of the leader, Kevin. The smartest, tallest minion. Yeah.

At least mischievous. I think that kind of applies to... with humans, too. I think I am being taller than you, I am smarter than you. The smartest man we know, Shaq, obviously. Shaq is smart. Shaq is smart. Piece of shit. Shaq's a smart guy.

Oh, a nice backtrack. Yao Ming even smarter. Oh, cool. Bradley, big brain genius. George Murison, very smart. Kevin writes, thanks for all the wholesome quality entertainment. If you'd like me to roast Mitch at the top of the show with something that you'd come up with, roastspoonman at gmail.com is the address.

No, don't do it. You're telling people not to do it? I say don't do it. But you like that one. No, I mean, I didn't really like it. I'm not like a gassy, smelly guy. You're really not. You're not a smelly man.

You smell pretty nice. I'm not like, hey, everybody. Like, I'm not like... No, you're not that kind of big guy. Do you think I'm a clump, Nick? I mean, I wish you were. Be pretty funny. I wish I was a clump.

Imagine how entertaining this podcast would be to clumps on other sides of the dinner table, just ripping farts, eating fast food. Somebody call an exorcist indeed. Well, uh, to Spoon Nation, here's a little drop. And then Nick is like, hold on. No. Shut up, shut up. When everyone thinks I'm the fuck up with this podcast, shut up, shut up.

Oh, fuck. I fucked up very bad. It's your fault. Shut up. Shut up. Fuck. I fucked up bad. You're way too bad.

Shut up. Shut up. I like that one, actually. I think that, I think, uh, Chloe, Chloe in Philadelphia, something that I hope, hope you use this. Enjoy Chloe in Philadelphia. Thanks, Chloe. Oh, shit.

I just asked. Go birds. Here in Philadelphia, they like the birds. Go birds. The Eagles are you talking about? Yeah. Why the fuck would you say that? I don't know.

I do not really follow the NFL, but I imagine a, a Philly fanatic like, like Chloe there would be excited to hear a bird shout out. Go birds. Oh, I was at the Superbowl where they beat the Patriots. Hmm. Go birds. I'm a fan now. Birds did what the Rams could not.

That's true. Go birds. Go birds. Okay. You don't say, you don't mean when you, you don't mean it when you say it. When you say go birds, I mean it. I want those birds to go. Nick, I got my teeth cleaned today.

I went to the, I have a dentist story too. Really? I have a dent. Wait, hold on. I don't really have a story. I just got my teeth teeth clean. I'm going to highlight this for, for, yes. We can see in the high in the, in my outline, I have a dentist shout out right here.

He can verify this. Nick, they've, they've been watching one of my molars. Yeah. There's a small little filling in it. Oh, that's a bummer. The day has come. It was also cool to, uh... Do you have any fillings?

Oh, yeah. I've got fillings out the wazoo. I got, how, who, did you think you have more than me? Uh, I don't know. No, because I think I've heard your number before. I have 16 fillings. Yeah, that's insane. Yeah.

I have very, I have very bad teeth. Are you all talking cream filling? Oh man, I wish. How do you get those bad boys refilled every week or so? Nick, do you, do you brush your teeth with that fake candy toothpaste, that gooey... The chocolate kind they have. Or like, I'm thinking like the very like gooey green, you know, like the gel, the candy gels. Do you brush your teeth with that candy gel?

I know what you're talking about. Yeah, the ones that you eat. Uh, yeah, I do. No, I, I was thinking of the, because I had a friend who in elementary school who had chocolate flavored toothpaste, which was, I thought was disgusting and it was like, like a gimmick. You don't want to eat your toothpaste. No, I agree.

It's nasty. It's disgusting. Um, so you got a molar. You got to get a, you got to get a, that molar filled in. That's a bummer. That bubblegum toothpaste, not too bad. Yeah, and you know what? There was a little, a little piece of a plaque.

There's a little piece of plaque cause she had to really dig in there, fucking hurt. Yeah, hurt like a motherfucker, and then I had to go to, uh, but I had immediately had to go and eat fucking del taco afterwards. Nothing like getting. I was, I actually, I asked her, I was like, how long can you are not supposed to eat a half an hour after the, she's like, no, that's for children. I was like, oh yeah, okay, and then I went and I ate some del taco.

Um, we'll get to that in a second. My dentist anecdote, I'll say real quick, then I went to do to our guest. I, my, I always get accused of things cause they have very bad teeth. I take, I have good dental hygiene. I have a, I have a sonic hair. I use it religiously. I have a, uh, I mean, I actually have, I have a quip toothbrush. I use that religiously.

I'm a big quip user, using the quip, the brand that sponsors us. I'm always quipping it. I do have a sonic, uh, quip. I have a sonic quip. Got to go fast. Where are those chili dogs? Tales. Let's kiss.

We're getting into these memes. Yeah. Are they, are those considered memes? What are those? Um, I, I think they're just like things he says. Yeah. Photographs. Yeah.

Photographs are my personal collection. Yeah. Next fan fiction. Um, the, uh, so, so I, yeah, I got accused of being a, a tobacco, like a chewing tobacco user. It was like delayed to use jaw because I guess I have erosion in my gums and we eventually figured it out. It's from those Altoids.

I always have. I'm a big, I'm a big mint man. Yes. I'm always, I'm always popping these Altoids. It's a habit I started years ago. I thought it was pretty healthy. Now I can't even do that. He says it can't use the mints anymore.

Oh man. You're going to smell like shit. I know. With our diet. Do you know only when I was in a high school, a kid, uh, like I started to get stomach problems because he ate Altoids too much during the day. Wow. It fucked up his stomach.

Yeah. That's, that's a, that can be an issue because you're just getting so much sugar and I mean they, they are loaded with sugar. And another kid, he, he swallowed a Mento and then swallowed Diet Coke and he exploded. I heard of this kid. Uh huh. Yeah. Uh, Mitch, our guest is a writer performer from UCB in the podcast, candy dinner and

what's with these homies talking about Weezer. Matt Apodaca is here. Hi, Matt. Hi guys. Uh, sorry I chimed in before I was introduced. There was just, uh, you know, it was right there. You'd lobbing me up with little, uh, little, little bunts for Matt. You're now on the Doughboys blacklist.

So I think last time I was here, uh, it was for the double. So I didn't, I don't think we had a drop, uh, or a Heidi Ho. So experiencing a Heidi Ho was very exciting. And also watching Nick do the, the very energetic, um, intro to the, the March Madness tournament of the Chompians, uh, was it, like the only thing I could, uh, uh, explain it like is this, if you were walking through like, uh, to go visit Hannibal Lecter, it was just like what one of the other prisoners would be doing inside this, just like straight track it like carving on a wall.

He's ranting about a chain restaurant tournament of some kind. Man, all those other, that's like such great detail though, those other little, the little crazy guys before you get to Hannibal. Yeah. Movies not about those guys, but they're there too. Yeah. They're there. That's, that's manhunter.

Do you ever see the Michael Mann man? No, when I heard it's so good. Oh, I love it. Yeah. I really, I really enjoyed it, but that's, that's, it's like a, it's in the Hannibal verse and you, and you, uh, and the, uh, you meet, they, they, they did it as reg red dragon, ret retner one, I saw the retner one, the retner one's not good, but it's mostly is the same story.

Yeah. A little bit different. The retner ones. Okay. Yeah. I saw it in the, I saw it in the theater. Yeah. You know, it's okay because the cast is good, but it's just, it's also like it's, it's Brett

Ratner. You know, he was directed the movie jack and awful holding a shrimp cocktail. What a reason alleged to have been doing fucking creep. Did Rattner do rush hour? He did do the rush hours. Yeah. Those are good. Rattner has made good movies.

He's hit, he's, he's made the formula work for him a couple of times. Is there a new rush or he must not be directing the new one. I don't know. I don't know if he's involved at all. Um, well, uh, so just to be clear, you stand with Rattner. The man hunter has like a very 80s vibe to it. So it like it, it feels very of the time, but I had I I've told someone to watch it and they didn't enjoy.

Maybe it was Paul Rust and Leslie, his wife, maybe then maybe they didn't enjoy, but it, but it. I loved it and it, but it is a very like 80s. There's a very 80s vibe to it, but it makes it creepier. You should check it out, but it's like there. Do you know who play? It's who plays a it's Brian Cox. It's Brian Cox.

Yes. Brian Cox plays Hannibal. Great actor. Yeah. I'm not seeing any of, I've seen silence of the lambs and no other ones, but for some reason know everything about all. Silence of the lambs rules. That's just, that's like one of my favorite movies.

Very good. God, I want to watch it again. I'm gonna watch it again. What are we doing this for? Yeah. All right. We'll put on silence of the lambs. We'll be right back after this break.

Welcome back to Dubois. We just watched the entirety of silence of the lambs. Yeah. It was awkward watching a movie while Nick had an erection for two hours. You kept cheering on Buffalo Bill. Yeah. And you did the dance when he did. Look, I've learned it.

It's kind of a lip sync battle sort of thing. Like 30, 30 seconds before that scene came up, you, you yelled to everyone, tuck time boys. We didn't know what you were talking about. Matt, you are, you have a podcast about Weezer. You're a Weezer enthusiast, a band I'm not super familiar with. Mitch, you know a little bit of Weezer. I really liked Weezer.

When I was in middle school, I got the blue album. Yeah. Middle school, baby, getting my first kiss, listening to Weezer, dating a girl. I never kissed ever. Practicing on your closed fist though. Kelly Whalen. What a bad choice she made. Well, that's that's my first girlfriend, Nick Kelly Whalen.

Oh boy. Shout out to Kelly. Yeah. She's probably listening to the podcast probably and you know what? If she heard this, she probably like, hey, please don't ever mention my name ever again. She's listening to this being like, why, why, I missed my chance. You let the spoon man get away. She has a nice life, I think.

She's not in LA. Right. That's the dream. But yeah, you were, but you were saying you were, you were into this, you were into Weezer Middle School. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was big in, I was big in. I really liked it. That was like that rocketed up to like my, my favorite band.

And then, uh, I remember I got to high school and my, my God, my God parents family always comes over for Christmas and my Godfather's daughter, Sarah was like, uh, like, Hey, do you like listening to that anymore? I was like, no. And she was like, can I have it? And I was like, yeah, sure. And I gave it up. But I, but I'm sad because I do, I actually do like that.

I never, I try to listen to some of the other albums that I never actually got into them. I think that that's the most accessible album they have. I think so. I think if I were to try to convert somebody who hadn't heard Weezer before, I would give them the blue album because I think top to bottom, it is perfect. Uh, I was three when it came out. If anyone wants to be upset, wow, I am upset. So as such a, as a man of a younger generation than us, how did you get into this, into Weezer?

So my mom is young and so she would play that out. She was like peak age, like for that album, I think she was like 20 when that album came out. She was like 24. Okay. 23, 24. And so she would play it a lot in the car. Am I closer in age to your mom than you?

I think so. No. Uh, yeah. My mom just turned 50 and you're 49. So yes. Yeah. The answer is yes. I'm 38.

Yeah. Yeah. So I guess I'm 28. So it's about right in the middle. Yeah. Right in the middle. Okay. Uh, we should do a progression photo.

Nobody would think it. They'd be like, who are those two losers in that cool woman? She was young and like, she would play that album a lot and I think I just inherited a lot of her music taste as I grew up and just didn't stop. I've seen them probably, I've seen them over 10 times, probably similar to you with Dave Matthews band. I try to see them at any time they're in LA or at least close to it, but they're, they're my boys and I know they've made some really questionable music choices as of late, but

you know what? It seems like they're having a lot of fun. I'm on a little text thread and we, we, we discussed what was better, new Dave Matthews or new Weezer? Oh, wow. That's interesting. And I made a playlist. I believe my Carlson made a playlist of, of, of Spotify, like new Weezer songs.

And then with the new album, it was finally, I think everyone gave in was like new Dave Matthews is better. Wow. It's cooler. I think Dave Matthews won out. So I mean, they're both, maybe probably both pretty embarrassing, but no, I don't know. I mean, like Weezer is more, I think, I think the, the, the Africa cover and some of that stuff is a little too.

That I think that's their like biggest single ever is a cover of a Toto song, which is very insane. That is, that is crazy. Wait, hold on. I want, I want to compare it because, because you're saying that something off of the new Dave Matthews is better than not something of the new, are you just going to pick randomly? What's the, what's the new? I guess, I guess, I guess you should nominate a new Weezer song.

I mean, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you, are you have to nominate the worst one off the, off the worst off the worst on the new album, I think is called a living in LA. Okay. Weezer living in LA. Okay. I'll play a little bit of living in LA. We'll, we'll get a sense of this.

Wow. This is going to be good. I'll pick the worst one too. Here we go. Whoops. That's, that's Chicago. I'll back it up. Hold on.

Hold on. Here. A little bit of living in LA. Why are you, I was laughing immediately. Nick, you were, you were looking, you were like this, you looked confused. I had that. Chicago is bad Weezer though. Like if, if, if Weezer did do Chicago, it would be bad.

I did, I did living in LA, I did, I picked living in LA, but I clicked on what I had open, which was what I used for, we used, we did this in the Chicago show. I did a, I did a, did everybody, does anybody know really, really know what time it is? Just spoiler for an upcoming show. And you listened to music so infrequently that it was still the last thing. It was still the last thing. This thing that we played at our live show three weeks ago. All right.

Here we go. Here's a little living in LA. It's not playing. Oh, this is bad. It's like immediately bad. It's like a maroon five song. I'm, I'm sorry. I'm doing this to both of you, to everyone here.

Emma, you saw, I'm sorry. That's pretty rough. Mitch, what's your nominee? Huh. From their new album. It's, this is, well, because also Samurai Cop. Oh, Joy begin. I mean, she could play that one.

That is because the other one I was thinking was like she or that girl is you. But Samurai Cop is, you might as well play Samurai Cop. I'll play a little Samurai Cop. Oh, Joy begin is the parenthetical. This is better. This is already better. Cause at least this is an instrument that I understand what it is. Yeah.

That's true. Wow. Huh. It's been settled. I mean, I don't even. Sorry. Sorry rivers. You got to go answer to Dave and he's, he's probably chill somewhere.

Dave Matthews gets a lot of whatever. I can't get into this. I can't do this right now. I think there's a lot of, you know, back between both bands. Actually, there's a lot of unfair. Also, I'll call it bullying. Yeah. The worst bullying that takes place online.

Yeah. It's about river. It's about these two straight white men. Why, why does Dave Matthews himself get so much? I'm confused, but like, I, like, I feel like I never hear rivers getting as much shit as Dave Matthews himself. Because rivers is like very clearly a dweeb and Dave acts like he's not. Hmm.

I think the, I think people, the music Dave Matthews band is like a punching bag. And so as, as the front man, as the guy who named the band after himself, Dave Matthews is naturally going to be the lightning rod there. It's the same reason Chad, Chad Kroger. I mean, the band's not named after him, but Chad Kroger gets all that hate from Nickelback detractors. Yeah. The rest of the band is just as at fault.

Right. That doesn't track though. Chad Kroger, it's not Kroger back. It's Nickelback. That's what I just said. I conceded that it's not named after him. I know. But he's the front man.

He's the most visible party. He's the guy who was married to Avril Lavigne. Maybe still is. God, I hope so. I hope they're still together. Just for the sanctity of marriage. Yeah. So.

Some marriage work in this crazy world. I didn't work out between Kelly Willen and I, for God's sake. I know. I need just, I need something. Please. Willen, get back with Mitch. No, she's happily married with children, I believe. Leave that other family.

Yeah. Start a new one with Mitch. I have cats. Do you like litter in your bed? Man, that is a real problem. I have cats too. And just like no matter what, there's always litter in your bed. And maybe there is a solution to not be gross, I guess, but they track litter.

This, this is a real issue. Cats track litter fucking everywhere. It's, it's annoying. I got, I got a room. I think I'm going to get a second Roomba, Nick. I think that's my backup Roomba. You guys are doing that. Well, okay.

Second Roomba money. We had a new Patreon tier. Bitch's Roomba farm. Do you wait? So like it's, there's that much litter around and cat dander and hair and such. They just get rid of a lot of stuff. They just make a lot of mess. Yeah.

Their litter box is in your bed though, right? Their litter box is the bottom. I've had it installed at the bottom of my bed. So that, so if Papa has to go, he can move on down himself. Like a chamber pot. Matt, what's the cat situation at your home? So there were, there, uh, as of recently there are three there were four. My roommate has two cats.

I have two cats. What we recently had to put down one of my roommates. Oh, that's sad. She was in a ghost basically the whole time. She was like a very sweet, very lovely cat, but she was just bones. And looked like she wished for death every day. How old was she? She was 19.

Yeah. She was very old. She was up there. Second age. Yeah. And she was like, I mean, I mean, I won't get into all her problems, but she was just like, you know, peeing everywhere and stuff. Cause she was like, I don't know where to go anymore.

Uh, but she was, she was really sweet. Her name is beauty and she was a real, a real treat. RAP beauty. Yeah. That's some peace beauty. Yeah. That's Zippin. You know, I had two cats Zippin Buster, Nick Zipp lived till 22.

Wow. And Buster was almost 20. She was, she was, she was up there. Right. Yeah. My guys are like 11 and 15. They're quite, they're getting up there. Who are your guys?

What are their names? Their names are Hurley and Sawyer. Like from Laws. Oh, that's cute. Yeah. You can, but you know what? You can see a 15 year old cat and they can see him completely fine. It's great.

Oh yeah. Sawyer is my oldest. That's a durable. Yeah. And he's just like, he's mad at me all the time. He thinks I suck. And then he's right. I'm pretty sure Wally and Irma think I suck too.

Um, I cleans my room for me. It's not hard to get litter out of the bed. He's always saying that. You are right. We probably should never admit of these things. No, it's okay. If there anyone else is in my bed, I'll just tell them it's food crumbs. They'll believe it.

I've been eating sand. Yeah. I'm weird. Yeah. Why not? You'll say, they'll say, oh yeah. Eat it. And you'll go.

Okay. Um, I, I, I try to get into Pinkerton, by the way. Yeah. Just an, is that the green album? Uh, Pinkerton is their second album. The green album is completely separate. Like, uh, they have like six monochromatic, uh, releases at this point. Self-titled.

But I try to get into Pinkerton. It didn't work. It didn't work out. Yeah. That was like the sentiment. I guess for the time it was 1996. So I was of course only but five years old. Uh, I'll say it as often as I can.

Um, but, uh, it was like at the time it was, uh, not received well critically or commercially. So it's like one of the albums, like people say like made the nineties, but I think it's quite good. Some of the lyrics have not aged well because it is very like, why doesn't this girl like me? And it's like, okay, well, that's fine. And he also was, how old was he when that was like 24, like 25?

Oh, he was 24 at that point. I thought he was like in his 30s. No, he's 50 now and still calling women girls. Oh, not great. Yeah. But I have a podcast all about how much, uh, I, I love them and I spent a lot of time being like, he's weird, but it's cool. Yeah.

So are you breaking down because, you know, we, we ran out of things to talk about pretty quickly on Doughboys and we have all of chain restaurants to discuss, like, are you breaking down individual songs? Are you going album by album? Are you just talking about letting your guests drive, run the show? Yeah. So it is like, it's album by album. So right now they have like 14 albums and there's like a cut.

I've already recorded like a good chunk of them, but, uh, I'm only doing the 14 albums. Oh, wow. I'm only doing that because like, uh, I can't commit to doing, uh, a full on like discussion podcast. There's only so much to say about, I think, uh, one particular topic. I'm not going to go through them again, you know, um, but there, uh, there's also like some side things that I'm going to talk about and like, I'm going to have like a couple of like musicians on to talk about like their influence and stuff.

So I think there's small little things like that to talk about, but I'm not going to do. I probably won't do more than 20 of these. Right. Yeah. Uh, Nick, who was, what was your first, do you remember? I think I'm trying to remember the first music I got and I think that it was either a cassette. Uh-huh. Do you want me to now sound old cassette of snows informer?

Very cool. Informer, you know, send me so we're down the lane, I like it boom, boom, down, so we start someone down the lane, like boom, boom, down, next, I rolled back or it might have been do the ditty paper boy by paper, do the ditty by paper boy. Right. It might have been, it might have been a, who, who were the two, uh, oh, Chris Cross. No, they were, they were, I think, I don't even know if I got them or my sister had them. Now do you, do you mean like an a thing you got that wasn't like, because I, this is me

asking for music, okay, Christmas, Christmas morning. I think I got snows informer and do the ditty by paper boy. These are the first. Pretty cool. I know. I was like in fifth, fourth or fifth grade, I'm sure. That was back when you'd get like an, like you'd buy an album, a whole album for one song because there was, there wasn't a way to buy an individual, well, you could buy an

individual single, but it was like five bucks in the album. These possibly were cassettes single. Who knows? I mean, I, they were, they were, they were, they were both cassettes and then get it. And then also, sorry, um, is it get a grip, the arrow Smith, the cow on the cover. Yeah. They had one that was, they had one that was called pump and a bunch of the lascivious titles.

And they had a, I, let's see, I, cause I, when you said that, I was thinking of that I had the, like a, like a record of a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater, but that was a, that was when I was a child. You played that on a gramophone, right? Yeah. I had a hand cranking. Um, no, I had a, uh, I think I got like, I think I got like three tapes, also tapes. And I got, I remember Midnight Oil was one of them.

Um, I got, uh, how could we sleep when our beds are burning that, that band? Oh yeah. And then I got, I got Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation. Wow. And then I got, uh, what was the other one? I want to say it was a, it was a rapper named Candy Man, but I can't remember what a single was. Yeah.

Yeah. Terrifying. It was covered with bees. Don't say it again. Look him up, Candy Man. I want to see what the song was. Okay. Hold on.

Candy Man rapper. And before that it was probably, uh, for you, like internet dial-up sounds. Oh, he listened to Doomsday whistles. Okay. Uh, let's see. Hit single knockin' boots. Wait. Well, and now I got to find knockin' boots.

Candy Man, because I'm sure that's why I bought it for Candy Man's knockin' boots. Came out and looks like a 1990, 97, 1987, rather. Candy Man knockin' boots. Here we go. Wow. I'm, I'm fine. I don't want the playlist. I just want the single.

Okay. Here we go. All right. The album ain't no shame in my game. I remember this now. This does not check out for you. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

This is great. Is this the most music you've ever heard? Just these little snippets of songs. I play video games. Music plays in the background. And you turn it off to not distract you from it. I got, because Gettigrip came out in 1993. So April 1993.

So I was about probably in fourth grade, maybe. And then, uh, I got the cassette of that, which had like, I think like fur on, even on the cassette, there was like very fur and, uh, eat the rich. I remember is like one of the first song after the intro. And we play the cassette in my car and my parents were like, Oh my God. Like, like, we're like, what is our son? What is he getting into? Sounds like the Aerosmith is a bunch of Bernie Bros.

Aerosmith is, Aerosmith is a lame band as well. I mean, like that's an embarrassing first one because I wasn't, I like then like that, like started to be my, but you know what pink Floyd, even when I was like in elementary school to middle school is like a band that I've liked my entire life. I didn't get into them until I was older. It was like my brother, like what like got me, let me borrow dark side of the moon. And I was like, Oh, this is cool. This is like psychedelic.

Like I thought it, but I was like a teenager at that point. Dear God, you liked anything psychedelic? Yeah. I like that sort of stuff. I like that trippy sort of stuff. I just can't picture tripped out, why you're listening to dark side of the moon in his room. Open your eyes, buddy. I was going to say, I can just, I can picture you sitting cross-legged on the ground.

Two p-signs right behind you. With zero THC in your body. No, I liked it, but you know, I'm remembering another cassette I had very early on. My brother had death, death leopards hysteria, which was, had some of their biggest singles on it. And I wanted, also wanted a death leopard album because I thought like, well, my brother got that's when I want one too. So I got death leopards, pyromania, which did not have like the hit singles on it.

So it was just like kind of a, like at least for me, kind of a forgettable album, but I just like to look at it. Pyromania. Fire was in. Yeah. Fire was very in. And then Beavis was going nuts with fire. He was losing his mind over fire.

Fire starter by Prodigy. Right. Fire was, fire was lit. Yeah. Oh boy. Fire was lit back in the, in the nineties. Um, Matt, you are, you are from not just from Southern California, but you hail part in part from my hometown of Lakewood, California.

That's right. Yes. I wanted to talk about what you talk about. How much do we talk about Quincy on here? Not enough. Some equal time for Lakewood, at least a little bit just for everyone listening at home. Which is wearing a Patriots hat and a Boston sweatshirt. A Celtic sweatshirt.

Yeah. A Celtics hoodie. Yeah. No, go ahead. Talk about Lakewood. I'm just going to go in the other room and take a nap for a few minutes. Stay in here. You might learn something.

I'm a Lakewood. Yeah. Lakewood is a, it was a fine place to live. It's fine. It's fine. There's nothing going on. Really? No.

It's the most interesting attribute. It's, it is beyond it being the first planned community in the country is a lot, kind of the cracked homes for better or worse is that it's right next to Long Beach, which is a far more interesting, vibrant city. But what was the, Lakewood, we touched on this a little bit when you were here on Don't Boys Double, but talk a little bit about your eating habits growing up in Lakewood, your favorite chains. Yeah.

And specifically, I want to talk about Mexican food a little bit. But let's start with your favorite food and food from your hometown. So like, I, I love islands. And so like you were saying Long Beach, there's the Long Beach Town Centers. Yes. Don't throw away from where my family lives. Which again, I'm old enough to remember when that was built. That used to be nothing.

Yeah. What are yours is? This was just post war. You were, yeah, you were there when it was the field where Marty McFly crashed. But it was like, I go there a lot. There's a lot of good restaurants there. Obviously, in and out. What's, what's your, before we go past islands, because I love islands so much.

I'm in the rewards club. You know, I get points. I go there for Mahalo Mondays when you get double points. It's not Mahalo Mondays anymore. They changed it to, I think it was, what the fuck was it? It was something Wednesdays for a while and now they've just got like triple points weeks. But you can really cash in. If you combo their points program with their happy hours, you can really make out like a

bandit. But what is your, what is your, what's your favorite thing from islands? Well, if I'm feeling frisky, I'm going to get that pipeline with the chili on it. Oh yeah. It's really good. It also, some of that chili falls off the burger. Oh, I'm dipping a fry in there. That ain't no problem at all.

Yeah, no way. It's going to get eaten. Don't you worry. Jesus. Oh, some of it fell on the table. Good thing I'm a table freak. Suck it right off. But I like the, I don't, I think it's called, is it just called the Hawaiian burger I think

or like it has like pineapple and teriyaki sauce on it? Yeah, I think that's the, wait, I think that's the hula burger. Yeah. That's like such, that's rock solid anywhere you go. I think that's so good. But I like that. And I've seen, in recent years, they've expanded their menu to not just have, I think what they used to boast was fine burgers and cold drinks.

Right. And now they have like tacos and like, I think, I don't know if they have like, I don't think they have like chicken tenders, but they have, oh, they're chicken sandwiches. They're good. They're tortilla soup. Their soup is pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick, I want to add a new tier to table freak. Floor fanatic. Oh boy. You got a piece that you got something that fell on the floor. I'm going to, are you going to pick it up and you're a floor. No, but that seems to, I mean, floor freak also. Yeah, it should be floor freak. Just be just, they should all just be table freaking floor freak because the table freaks

probably look down on that. They literally are looking down on the floor freaks. It's just, it's like, it's, it's a step too far. It's like, I'll eat off the table, but you know, that's why it should be worse than animal. A floor fuck. Are you a floor fuck? Hashtag floor fuck. I have a confession.

I recently might have joined this tier of this class of person. Wow. I was cutting a mango trying to eat like a healthy snack and I did YouTube how to cut a mango because I usually don't. Hey, nobody cuts it a mango. Oh no. Oh. Oh boy.

Oh my God. What? Yay. I hope Chris Katan doesn't unsubscribe from our Patreon. He goes from platinum down to gold. But I was cutting a mango and I was like slicing the, I don't know what that is, like a rind. I was slicing the skin off into the trash and it got so slippery that I dropped the whole mango into the trash.

Oh my God. There was a recently added bag, there was some trash in it, but I grabbed that mango out of the trash and I rinsed it off and kept cutting. Trash tyrant. Trash tyrant. Yeah, trash tyrant. But then I did also drop it a second time on the floor. Oh my God.

Rinsed it again. That's wild. Yeah, it was really. What's going on? This seems like a cartoonish thing with this mango shooting out of your hands. Yeah, and when I slipped on a dang banana peel, I popped my head with a coconut. Pretty girl walked by and your tongue stuck out and your heart was beating out of your chest.

Bow tie spun in a circle. Yeah. Then I became an angel and floated to heaven. Nick, I've looked up the famous people born in Lakewood. Number one, Bryce Xavier, an Instagram star. Number two, and then you can, I can end this list after that. Kyle Korver. Oh yeah.

Korver is a Lakewoodian. And Bobby Crosby is third. Ryan James A. Gold. Let me look up Brian Xavier. Am I anywhere on the list? Did I did I place? I do not see you guys on there, but I'm sure that there is an expanded list that you both make.

Yeah, they can probably add us to this. Wanted. Wager's on the most wanted Lakewood list. Band from Ichaboni Public Library. The Bryce Xavier looks like a young guy. He's look. He might be a teenager. He looks too too young for me to be looking at his Instagram page.

You're not stopping. Let me just make a few bookmarks here. He passed us somehow. Yeah, it's good. That's wild. I'm good for him. Good for Bryce. Did I tell you that there was there was someone in Quincy trying to like wanted to try to

make like they they try to write up like some like legislation about Quincy being the most patriotic city in the country? Did I tell you this? No, I don't think so. They were like they could have it. Yeah, that's fine. They were like oh we want. John Quincy, the most patriotic city in the country.

They were they were listening off. You know, we got two presidents and you know, they're both from the like the 18th century. Okay, John Adams and John Quincy Adams. John Hancock Nick. Come on. Again, these are just this is like the this is like Celtics fans talking about the 60s championships. It's like this is ancient history.

Oh my God. Anyways, one of the things they listed off, which is so fucked up. They were like and the the pilot who dropped the bomb on Nagasaki went to North Quincy High School. I think you did tell me that I was like what the fuck? That's what you want to do. What are you doing? Hell yeah.

That doesn't make us the most patriotic city you fool. Monstrous. Jesus Christ. That's insane. Yeah, like us and I were we're making fun of them. See, not like we get we get it. That's Quincy guys get it. Some of you guys are are plugged in.

Some of you guys. That's like Quincy's a bad spot. Quincy versus Lakewood. Hmm. Rumble. Let's fucking fight. Just finally finally settle it. Yeah, both suburban populations.

I'll get my sort of rose gallery of Lakewood friends. Jonathan. Normal name. Hank. These aren't guys I know. Nick as they fight you and I will call her somewhere and watch. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't like it's not without its problems.

We talked about this a little bit on our on our show. When you were when we did this episode about about Lakewood on the Doughboys double, they the slogan growing up was tomorrow's city today. Yeah, that was like that because it was, you know, again, this forward looking place. And then at some point after I moved there, after I moved away, they changed the slogan to times change values don't. Wow. Very, very mega.

Yes. I don't not not not a fan of that at all. Let's go back to tomorrow's city today after you moved. You're saying that you were for some reason you're the reason it stayed the way it was before. You're nothing to do with it. No, I'm saying this isn't this is in the recent past. Like I went back there and saw a new slogan on this on the town sign.

I was like, what the fuck's going on here? Your head turned all the way around. Yeah. You know what else is weird about Lakewood? They have a I don't know if you've seen this, Matt. They have an eatery in Lakewood called Humblebright. Yeah, I saw this. That's insane.

It's insane. It's yeah, it's fucked up. It's like like something that that Harris Wittles invented and they just named their restaurant after it and it hasn't it's like it's been open for years. It's been open for like five years. Should I sue them on behalf of the Wittles estate? Yeah, probably. Yeah.

You can buy me off in sandwiches. It's called Humble Braggs. Yeah. Humble Braggs. That's so weird. It's very it's very odd because also too, it's like it's such an internety sort of phrase that I feel like people in general, the general public isn't going to be aware. I don't feel like the average Lakewood citizen is going to know what a Humble Bragg is.

No, my stepdad Dave has no idea what that is. He doesn't see some of them tweeting, our restaurant's so busy. I guess we have to take all this money and being like, I see what they're doing. He doesn't understand. Right. I wonder if I should tell this story. I'll tell it anyways. I won't tell the person who's involved with but we mean another person.

Everyone will know who it is. The password to Harris's Humble Bragg account and at his it was a year after he passed away. We were going to retweet people who had tweeted out about him passing away. And then we didn't do it and then the accounts the accounts been like corrupted and people have it's I think it's gone now. Yeah. Like for it got it's a bummer because that was that was a great, you know, it was a great it was a very great idea.

It got in the zeitgeist. You know, a vocabulary word and it was just like such a great chronicling of people, you know, very bragging in a very specific way. And that doesn't like happen like you don't not everybody gets to create a word phenomenon. Right. It was like it was an observation that became like a touchstone. Like we all know what that is. Right.

It's really crazy. Yeah. It was it was it was good to call it was it was great. A great guy. RIP Harris. Yeah. There was lots of that some, you know, but hey, you know, I put beauty the cat in the same category.

I was so rich we're we're memorializing what are f****n zip and Buster I mentioned them to RIP Zip RIP Buster and John Adams and John Quincy at all right P John, Quincy Adams John Adams, John Hancock and the guy who dropped the bomb on Nagasaki. Most of all most of all. Hey, I go you know what when you visit Quincy, which maybe you will be this year. I'll take you down into the, the tomb the Adams tomb. Oh, very cool. Yeah, and I'll leave you down.

I'll be quite content. Don't you have to walk to get down there, Mitch? I've got like my plan is to push him down at the top of the stairs. You're gonna say there's gonna be Olivia Soprano style escalator lowers you down to chair seat. So Nick when you're down there don't smoke John Quincy Adams bones and an attempt to become smarter. Wait, is that how high is that what happens?

Oh, man, that's great. They go to a graveyard. He's not buried in a graveyard and they dig up junk. They chose. I mean, it's really funny that they chose. I mean, the movie is funny. It is funny and he smokes John Quincy Adams and then at the end like they don't they bring back I forget what how exactly it happens.

Ben Franklin's ghost appears when they like smoke his bong or something like that. I think so. Yeah. Yeah, I'm always great. I mean for robots on the theater together. It's got jokes. Love a movie with jokes. And I think I think I've said this before.

It was either this or Jason X that me and Frail bought went and watched and then everyone else went and saw what's what's Anderson's the Royal 10 of you guys made the right choice. So let's talk Mexican food a little bit because that's gonna be our topic. I want to talk generally like how do you what's your what are your feelings on on Mexican food and and specifically I want to drill down where you stand on the taco versus burrito conundrum. Okay.

So this is something I have gone back and forth with quite a bit. Well, just my Mexican food thing in general is that like the you know the more like hole in the wally place is always going to be better for sure a chain or whatever because like we had this place. I did spend the majority of my life in Lakewood but I grew up like as a little boy in Downey and we were we would go to this place called El Taco which was just had a couple of locations and it was it was really really good. You can get like any anything on that menu is perfect.

They made it fresh like just there. Right. And it's like an old it's like a family that makes this food. Yeah. And the I find that what I think is always good in Mexican food is when they do the simple things like really really well. So I always judge like a Mexican food place by like if their rice and beans are good like before I even get to like the main courses because if that stuff's good the

rest of it slaps for sure. But like they're like if that's bad I'm not going to be super stoked. Right. I get something like safe like a cheese enchilada or something that's not going to be like too like you know crazy or anything. But you'll ask for a side of rice and beans go to your table eat it and then come back and I'll go back in that kitchen and be like let me see those beans in front of the guy and say you call these beans.

No it's always just like I guess like trial like I got you like my first time at a place and be like let's see what this is. I don't know. All I need is a single bean Nick and then I can judge it just with one bean. You cut it into thin little slices. That's right. And share it. Yeah like I always think yeah the simpler the thing like the more the more like intricate

items are going to be good. Sure. If they knock out the easy stuff first. I would go to yeah like I'll go to El Taco a lot we would go we were at Taco like we were at Taco Bell House but I also love I love to Del Taco growing up. We loved what is the name of that. Oh Super Max. We used to love Super Max.

Oh yeah Super Max is great. This is a long beach specific chain. Yeah Super Max is really good. I loved I think I talked about it on the double I think it was called yeah. Jolay Mollay was very great. Also sort of like right that area specific. But other than that like I didn't hit up a lot of the chains like we didn't do like El Taco because like my family is Mexican so and my mom my mom's Puerto Rican but she

learned how to make like Mexican food really good so you just eat a lot of stuff at home. Right. So like it was also one of those things where it's like well there was a place I don't know exactly where it is but it's it's called what is it I can't it's the name of a I can't even I had it and now I lost it but there was this place that we Vera Cruz it was called Vera Cruz it would go there all the time as a kid and I would always I was a picky boy and so when I was like four or five years old I'd always ask for a hamburger and they would just make me a hamburger with like the ground taco meat and it was really really

good. But they like also kind of almost a sloppy joe is kind of yeah yeah yeah and I mean as I got older I started to appreciate the the Mexican food more but right those are sort of some of the spots we would be I used to love I but in the taco burrito debate I used to be big on burritos used to really really burrito right but I think I think I'm a taco boy Wow it's disappointing burritos rule burritos do rule I don't say they're both great yeah I like tacos more but they're both great I think I eat I just eat tacos more because I think I can I sometimes a burrito will just take me out like I was like oh well that I

ruined my day yes so full but like I could eat like a good amount of tacos and be like okay that was that was a regular sized meal right oh I went to best fish tacos the other day that place on Hillhurst is incredible I don't know if you've been there before but it's oh yeah it's the best fish tacos they're right the hubris of that name and yet they live up to it yeah yeah it's it's if you haven't been I think it's it's probably the best fish I mean it is the best fish tacos in Los Angeles I think they're quite good they're real good a lot of people make argument for Ricky's I haven't been to Ricky's I gotta go to Ricky's I haven't had Ricky's either I've had I've had best fish tacos for God over a decade I've

been eating those things yeah and they're good they're really good they are they Nick they do live up to their name you know a week ago like on Thursday I went within the week I am thinking I'm thinking we should follow best fish tacos lead and rename do boys best worst podcast we'll take a break we'll be right back with more show welcome back to Doe boys here with Matt Apodaca we are talking munch madness 2019 mouth of the border here are the rules our competitors del taco Q doba tacos and burritos only side stay on the sidelines drinks are in the Gatorade jug also on the sidelines one taco and one burrito from each chain and eaters choice go crunchy or soft streamlined or loaded

whatever protein you want that is up to your individual discretion del taco we first reviewed actually we only reviewed this one time with Alan Yang on the podcast a member of the Golden Plate Club that's right very well and received a first round back we got a Yang back we love Yang hashtag yin gang yeah yeah why not everyone every Matt you want to add to your gang on here too sure Matt squad who Apodaca and that's too long Matt can I can I pitch one yeah along the lines of a hashtag floor fuck hashtag Matt fuck yeah hashtag Matt fuck if you're a Matt fuck throw me a hashtag and you know what I'll like it I'll say hell yeah I'll reply to it hell yeah for every Matt hashtag Matt fuck you better

get ready to reply quite a bit our fans are rabid we're having a Matt his thumbs caught fire Q-dobo we've not reviewed on the podcast but it a defeated green burrito red burrito in the opening round and has progressed to where it is today Matt you have not had Q-dobo because Mitch and I had never had Q-dobo you've never had it right I don't know if I had or not I don't think that I have we I was I was a neophyte to it you maybe it had it once before you'd never had it before this record never had this was my second time ever having it what like what was your what were your feelings about Q-dobo going in and what was

your general pro impression without giving anything away well I mean my first thoughts were what even is this place I truly had no frame of reference for it I looked up the menu online I was like oh this looks like you know it looks like a sort of grittier Chipotle a little bit like it looks like they are doing sort of a similar thing but it looks not fucked up right like it looks like they want it to be like cool it it does have a little bit of a edge to it yeah so I I mean yeah going in I truly didn't even have like a like a flavor in I knew it was gonna be Mexican food so I knew that but I didn't know how it was gonna taste or what was going on and you know what I think I was

I was pretty surprised and you mentioned that you were a Taco Bell family growing up you were a Del Taco family Mitch obviously a Taco Bell family do you hold on a second yes we weren't really a Taco Bell family okay I miss you become a Taco Bell family I am I am a Taco Bell family myself the family of one yeah I guess if we did get tacos like fast food tacos I guess it was like the couple times we did it was probably right about then as I got older I I got I got it on my own of course in high school and stuff but we were we went to just the two there was a just a couple local Mexican restaurants and Elsa rapes was the food that was my family restaurant that's where we

went and I was as a boy I was afraid to eat anything at it as a Mexican cuisine seemed foreign to me as a as a scared little white boy right in many ways I still am Mitch you're not little but but but now I mean the Mexican food is my I told you this it's my second second favorite after Italian still still has that spot right I am a sucker for good Italian and good red sauce and so on what can I see a baby it's a it's a it's an East Coast thing you know I mean no I got you a Mexican Italian food is great Mexican food is probably by my favorite food but I so good it is my number one two Italians up there for me I just went to La Pergoletta last night for the time and it was insane that's awesome what's La Pergoletta

I haven't been there it's in the same little like strip mall that the drawing room is over I spent a lot of time on Hillhurst for folks it's a great food street in Los Angeles but it's a yeah like all the all the pasta there is handmade oh wow yeah in house it's you should go it's great we should go sometime after a record get a nice meal could spend some extra time together talking to each other for five hours what happens when the mic is off I'll tell you what happens we look at our phones three feet away from each other you particularly look at your phone yeah we you look at your phone too we have some nice conversations I take his pot I wave at you when you just look at your phone maybe do

something else but yeah you a Taco Bell was your allegiance but you got you did like Del Taco yeah we would get the because like it was my mom and like my three brothers and so we would get the Del Taco Fiesta packs quite a bit which was which was all there which was crunchy tacos and like bean and cheese burritos right great you know it's like ten bucks or something and those are two of their bet I think they're better menu items they do their they do their budget stuff very very well there yes well let's let's get into it just like I just feel like some of like a like an item in on the Del Taco or Taco Bell menu it just feels like this this review may be loaded Nick

it seems like it seems like we got two Del Taco guys in here I'm not gonna he said he would like Taco Bell more he said he went alright I'm but I'm saying I didn't know I didn't know anything about Matt's position on Taco Bell versus Del Taco before I got him in he's not a ringer I'm not like you I'm not trying to book ringers in here I'm not like year one when you brought John Gemberling and knowing you didn't like in and out burger so you could kick in and out burger out of the tournament that's one of our best episodes Gemberling was great oh you think gambling was a bad guess no I think gambling was a great guess I think for that I think you booked him specifically

for the purpose of knocking in and out burger out of the tournament so we had to figure out how to get back in if Mitch thought that that ringer episode was good maybe maybe this is gonna be a classic too maybe we'll be like oh Matt Gemberling same sort of tear same sort of same quality gas I'll get to play a Belushi so let's start with let's start with Q Doba because we've covered Q Doba before and then we'll get into Del Taco I got the I went to Q Doba today okay I went for an early lunch and I got the the taco I got was called the Mad Rancher so here's the thing they have their tacos there which are all prefab but they don't have any

prefab burritos the burritos are make your own like Chipotle so for me it's a little disorienting where you have like God I just feel like I would like to have wandering around the restaurant help me I was looking at the menu I was studying the menu looking for a prefab burrito because if they have one that's that's that's ready to go I want to pick that one I don't have too much customization I have to deal with but I got the Mad Rancher taco which is real chicken bacon guacamole pecante ranch lettuce pico de gallo and cotija cheese you recited that from memory wait is that the taco you got it's not but the menu in front of

you I have the menu in front of me and also Nick it's got a heat level ranking of one lightning bolt yeah I will say that it didn't have the lightning bolt really did not I have some problems with their lightning bolt scale because this was this one was not spicy at all what is your issue I think they're just I it tells you it's not spicy at all it's one lightning bolt it doesn't even lightning doesn't even denote heat though yeah that's stupid oh yeah alright that's not what I was thinking of that's a great point guess what you ever been have you ever been near lightning strike Nick fire a fire will happen

fine things will catch fire from lightning I think it's kind of an A to C but fine I will say that this this one is my issue with it is that I think even their thing the thing that I had that was rated for Thunderbolts I think was just not that spicy but that's a common chain problem of the ranch I actually liked quite a bit here I was like what is this ranch doing on this taco but it actually worked really well as one of the nicer elements the girl chicken was good quality the bacon was subtle I feel like if you're gonna have bacon on a taco I kind of expected to be more of a presence but it was kind of overwhelmed

by guacamole and I don't want to be overwhelming at all no yeah I thought it was good but it was like I it was just kind of like a hint of smokiness you know what I mean I was just like I kind of it kind of sounds like it fucking knocked it out of the park it worked it worked decently well actually I will say that but I think a lot of people might see bacon on there expected to be a little bit baconier and it's not really yeah the dominant flavor there is really the the chicken the guac and the ranch again the ranch works well I thought this was a well done taco the burrito I got so again you have to roll

your own I got the ground beef burrito with the roll your own roll your own you not to roll up the fucking burrito have to self roll it but you have to decide what attributes this burrito is going to have okay well roll your own sounds and say my own chicken when I went there you have to roll your own in the in the D&D sense like you're rolling a carrot so cool thank you man it is cool you're right ground beef burrito I got it with a wheat tortilla which I like that they have that I like their wheat tortillas brown rice pinto beans queso diablo three lightning bolts not spicy regular cheese salsa verde two lightning bolts

not spicy onions and cilantro I threw on there a good burrito I there are so many components in here I was really worried about the structural integrity this thing the worker did a great job she she did an awesome job assembling it and keeping it intact there was like a little tiny tear but it didn't even like it was totally fine this this this thing was dynamite this was good I just don't like the I don't like the ground beef that much and I'm not sure about the the ground beef I got before I I told you that it was not the best yeah well I didn't get an intent I didn't get an intentionally for that reason but I

don't think the ground beef was what I think we have to we can weigh that in your evaluation of the place I think that the ground beef was was not the best but I think the other components were fine you know this was alright and the chips and salsa I'll just say I don't love their chips the habanero salsa again for Thunderbolts not very spicy but it's a decent salsa and it's got a it's got a little hint of sweetness which I kind of like I'm what was your guy what did you guys get with cutoba Matt let's start with you okay so for my taco I got the the drunken yard bird which is a grilled adobo chicken guacamole salsa verde

cilantro minced onions and cotilla cheese and I tried for for my order I tried to do as like simple as I could and as like one-to-one as possible so this was yeah this was like a pretty simple sort of like street taco that you would get right so I I kind of agree with the the the one tortilla for the taco I don't I don't know about that give me a reinforcement yeah this nonsense has to stop yeah it really does it's a problem with Chipotle too because I mean one I mean I can see how two corn tortillas might be too starchy or something I can I can understand that like on a sort of mouth feel right perspective but

if that taco is loaded up with that good good who cares right right and then you know I the chicken the chicken I thought was very tasty I thought it was very like like just very flavorful in general and that the salsa the salsa verde that they put on the taco was good they did not my I did postmate this my postmate did not get me any like side sauces or anything so I was like well it was spicy enough and he wasn't it wasn't crazy or anything I wasn't you know my face didn't turn red and it wasn't yeah dip my head in a pool of water I will say they are a little stingy with the side sauce is like when I when I asked for

one there they were like they were like I will give you one hmm okay yeah this sound this sounds like this is fake okay this is my first this is my first one we'll give you what this is my first you think he's pulling you think he's pulling a Jacob Wolf or I think he is for Cudoba this is something this is this is I'm not gonna say fake news but this is some fake why you're bullshit right now fake choose it's fake it is it's fake choose it's not fake choose it's true okay we'll give you one but no you know what who are these bullies that you don't I it was there it happened to me my uncle was there with me he works at Nintendo

he says that while Luigi is gonna be DLC in the new Smash Brothers this is a lie it's all true it's a lie you're lying yours you heard these like two sort of liberal hipsters they're saying well I wish we can get more as much salsa as we wanted but I guess under the new rules it's okay yeah and then a woman with her child was there and the child looked up to her to you and said why is there evil in the world right this fucking this is all bullshit people why are people lying all the time you're a liar I'm not lying I'm telling the truth it was it was a friendly interaction but they but I asked for another salsa and I got only one

salsa what do they say to you they're like they're like how you get one they didn't say that they did no they did not this is fake maybe it was like yeah you can have one show here's one I think that's what happened they I asked for an extra one and they were stingy about it that this is insane it's true it's what happened say I'm guessing they had a corporate policy that they're not supposed to give away too many salsa too many extra salsa this is in you know what well I'll go and talk to this guy yeah go I want you to go we will we will get to the bottom of it okay well after this record we're gonna drive down

Culver's first of all no we'll do this on it well it will count as a record day you'd you both you'd both get to the door and then start to cry and then both order instead fake choose it's true it happened my something like a problem I did have with the taco though I thought it was tasty that was very good not the whole thing too wet I thought it was pretty that was pretty sloppy that could be a byproduct of it being post made yeah that's probably it had like maybe like heat condensation right within the foil which I will say was very nicely packed as well and but I thought overall that it was a very it was very

tasty taco right for my burrito I did a you know I did a bean and cheese burrito with the burrito the vegetarian burrito I eat meat but I went being cheese that thought that's more as that's more plain right I wanted to do a sort of more plain representation so that was flour tortilla no I took the rice out to do one-to-one with the del taco burrito and it had black and pinto beans I gotta say this is an insane order yeah I agree you know and so I was eating I just kind of wanted to replicate the expected or I had ordered del taco first and I got what I would get right and so to match the del taco order I sort of had

to do it like a freak like right like a hashtag Matt fuck cuz this is this is baby why you got a bean and cheese burrito at Chipotle yeah I got it at you know what to for first round yeah this is you just don't do that all my first rounders were being in cheese it's like a good bean and cheese it's just a good metric this just isn't the place to do a bean and cheese burrito but if they can execute it well I think it's a feather in their cap yeah that's sort of my whole thing is like if they could do this great I'm sure the rest of it they you know add some more ingredients let's see how this burrito holds

itself together you know I will say for being a you know a newy gooey so soft and chewy burrito hell yeah it was it did keep together very well right um it the beans I I prefer in like a bean and cheese burrito I prefer the beans to be sort of like more like a refried like mashed sort of situation these are whole beans yes they're very tasty so I didn't mind but I always there's something about the mouthfeel of loose beans that is just like too much it's a similar thing with Chipotle they they've got the whole beans in there it's not quite as good as some of those squishy baby mash them up yeah mash them up but I thought

it's very good I thought the cheese was very good I you know oh this tortilla can I talk about this tortilla for a second I gotta get sheets made out of this thing this was a soft tortilla I love it it was great I wanted to be the beans and cheese inside of it I touched I did weirdly pet this burrito just to see how it fell and I was like oh man this is this is good yeah this is good but you know I had eaten like I said before I got to my to to my order so I had three lunches yesterday but so I only ate half the Cudoba order yes I heated up the rest of it today which brings us to our next segment the

leftovers well played it heated up and it was really good today wow it held up I was it was as if I had eaten it yesterday is the season one theme of the leftovers just your ringtone yeah it's on Spotify baby but you know what yeah I will say it was a really good bean cheese burrito I had a had I known that the other meats and stuff were like as good as they were I think I would have sort of gone a little that way but you know what there's always next time Mitch your thoughts your Cudoba experience Nick first of all I gotta say Cudoba's got I like anything that starts in queue if you catch my drift QAnon you know I give

him a pass or her whoever it is whoever QAnon maybe maybe QAnon is just a maybe it's just a computer program Nick Cudoba Quincy QAnon Quentin Tarantino okay but I got myself the two-timer taco you guys are complaining about you know all these tacos they should have to they they should have they they should have a there should be more than one tortilla yeah you could get that with a two-timer I got the two-timer my first time there I don't care I don't care you could get it again if you want yeah I know I got it but I already got it it's good why you ask for another fucking tortilla okay I think it should just come

with one bite of fault if you're gonna do a soft talk I got the two-timer pulled pork salsa Roja shredded cheese lettuce pico de gallo and cotija cheese and a crispy taco wrapped in a flour tortillas tortilla spread with three cheese queso plus top double decker it's it is a plus top double decker Nick I took a bite into this thing you know I thought Delta goes in trouble that's what they think when I'm in the drive-thru I think when I'm in the bathroom Delta goes in trouble mix mix in trouble because this two-timer was really good yeah I got mine postmated it was hot and fresh even though it is far it's five

miles away I gave a good tip Nick I gave $15 on your credit card you have my credit card just for just for the tipping situation and then and I got a side of salsa verde I didn't really pour anything on here actually I just ate it as as was and it was you know there was no issue when I got my side of salsa by the way wow just one that didn't happen at all well you didn't go in store you ordered on postmates they were they gladly gave me sides of salsa well that guy probably had to deal he had probably to haggle with the the the person me and the counter acutoba

God you gotta listen to me my ass is on the line mr. Postmaze gonna shit can if I get this guy's extra salsa it's the dough boys and Nick that taco was fucking tasty mm-hmm it was a really really good to a tasty taco yeah tell tacos in trouble I got myself a grilled adobo chicken burrito mm-hmm I say they correctly adobo yeah cheese cilantro sour cream pinto beans flour tortilla cilantro rice pico de gallo salsa verde and three cheese queso in the in the side of the of the verde sauce like I said the verde salsa I got the the queso in there because last time we were there I was told that the queso

was good and you were yes same thing neither I only got the queso last time in the context of that that two-timer taco yeah it was it was really it was a good burrito Nick it was it was really well done you know good job there I was trying to think of like I should get guac in there but I felt like guac and queso and sour cream just did that's too much of a minute there's too much going on at that point so I right I opted out of the guac I also got myself a large diet coke and I got myself some chips and queso I ate a little bit of the chips and queso the chips and queso good there was no reason to do that besides the fact that

it was just dinner and yeah I should have done the fiery queso I still yet to try it it's not that spicy it's good though but Nick it was it was better than most of the burritos I get at Chipotle they did a good job yeah I liked the taco more than I liked the burrito you know was had an impressive showing this tournament it's it was it was good it was good well let's get to del taco so here's what I got I'm a del taco fan I'm not gonna fly into any false flags here right I have my biases towards this chain this is I but I decided I'm going to order things that I don't normally order because that's

part of this exercise so I got the epic queso chicken burrito this is fresh grilled chicken del taco's famous crinkle-cut fries as they say in the menu description create queso blanco cheddar cheese and pico de gallo in there oh so it's got fries in the burrito like a like a California style burrito I thought this was quite nice that the fries have a really like their crinkle-cut fries are really good the the texture works really well in the context to wrap up under tortilla their queso is good I like del taco's queso I think it's well done I don't think their chicken meat is all that stellar and

usually when I get something there like like the chicken the chicken entree I will get or the chicken a menu item I will get will be the chicken soft taco because I think it's got enough sauce to kind of and it's in its small form factor it kind of compensates for the the not great chicken quality whereas I think their ground beef and their ground turkey are pretty good so but here I think the the chick it suffered a little bit from the it being such a gigantic sizable protein forward thing it suffered a little bit from the chicken being not that great that said all the components kind of worked this one

definitely benefited because it was also on the drier side so a benefit with because of all the fries and starch in there benefited from throwing a bunch of that that's that a hot sauce on there I throw a lot of the del inferno which is the hottest one because I'm something of a heat seeker I also ordered a beyond avocado taco so here's the issue they act I dined in they actually gave me a regular beyond taco I didn't send it back because that's what they gave me and I didn't want to waste it but the beyond avocado taco is vegan and I want to try it the the one they gave me is only vegetarian so it's beyond meat cheddar

cheese lettuce and tomato in a crispy shell that's the one that I ended up getting beyond meat if for people who are familiar with the term it's a plant protein that's made with yellow peas a bunch of different oils lime juice oregano cumin a bunch of different components and it's a pretty good substitute meat I don't think it's as good as the impossible meat but it's pretty good and it works well I think it works better ground than in a patty this is nice I did the beyond avocado I mean it's just a del taco but with beyond meat instead of ground beef and because it's it's seasoned you're

basically just getting the texture of it but just without the beefy flavor so you're losing a little bit of a something obviously you can notice that you can tell it's not beef yeah but it's still very satisfying in the way that a crunchy taco is and I love the del taco the talk del taco is my favorite taco so I think this is a great vegetarian option oh we didn't talk we didn't we barely touched on chips and salsa which I guess we don't need to until later but I will say that I forgot to get chips and salsa at the Culver City del taco so I had to make a separate trip today to just get chips and salsa

from the drive-thru like a psycho but I will say their chips and salsa which comes with pico de gallo and I don't usually get chips there because I always get fries the chips and salsa is pretty damn good Matt your thoughts on del taco so del taco have familiarity with the with the chain you know right so I got something that I always get and then I don't usually I don't usually order tacos at del taco right because I mean this was I mean I did say earlier that I am a taco boy but they're they're they're half pound bean and cheese burrito I think is one of my favorite fast food such a go-to for me so good I get with

the red sauce I'm a green sauce guy but red sauce works too yeah and so it's just there's something about it I think it's in just in terms of like size and value there's you're just not you can't beat it I think yeah very filling because it's you can get like two of those and then fill up for less than three dollars right crazy and you know the I really like the refried beans I always like how the cheese is like just melted enough where you can still kind of like it's kind of like almost like pulling apart as you're biting it still like it's still it's so good and that red sauce is so great the and man they're

packeted hot sauces are just phenomenal I think they're so so good yeah I think the del scorcho is more flavorful but I use the del inferno more cuz a little spicier del scorcho el scorcho is a weasher song and it was named after the the hot sauce I didn't know that just to bring it all that's true maybe I'm a weasher freak after all you heard one thing that's pretty cool can you name a weasher song el scorcho but so that burrito I ate it right I like wolfed it down this was lunch number two and it was just so so tasty to me I really liked it and then for the for the you know the the taco I got the grilled chicken taco

which the the menu says freshly grilled marinated chicken savory secret sauce crisp lettuce and freshly hand-grated cheddar cheese in a warm flour tortilla now that's the one I was talking about I'm curious is your assessment so I never had this before I I I did want something else yeah I ordered this is actually not what I ordered oh interesting so we both we both had a little mishap with the menu that happens at Del Taco it does happen a lot yeah so I had actually ordered the the chicken the grilled chicken street taco which like avocado and salsa and other little fixings on it and that I was I ordered

the the yard bird to sort of be more one-to-one with that taco so this taco isn't exactly one-to-one but it's close and you know I I don't hate flour tortilla tacos I think that's fine I just my preference is corn give me two of those corns and you know that the cheddar cheese and that saw I also it tasted very like it tasted good I want to say that it tasted good but it tasted very like white to me like it is very American and it was so it tastes like a very authentic like representation of a taco this is like what I would get it at a taco at like a white friends like family's house or like and like you know

it then chips and salsa is Doritos I was like no it's not right but I think it was the Weigar household like my stepdad like used to make like taco salads for us and it was always like ground beef lettuce and like and Doritos I was like this is weird and also don't you know that I'm Mexican you're being this is racist the Weigar family Estonian tacos but I thought it tasted good it tasted it did taste fresh the lettuce was really good all the ingredients individually right we're good I think that that sauce which I suspect is ranch like it seemed like it was ranching quality to me but I don't know if it's

a hundred percent ranch it's like some sort of their approximation of like a crema sauce yeah I think it's got a little mayo yeah in it maybe yeah so cool making it even wider yeah like sort of mayo and cheddar cheese did sort of like throw me off a little bit because there's also very like cool cooling ingredients right but I thought it was tasty and I mean it went down nice with that it when I added the del scorcho sauce it you know gave it a little extra flavor that that's definitely like like that's what I think del taco kind of has is that they I think Jack in the box is kind of similar is that they've

got their portion of the menu that's that's more Mexicans Mexican food actually Jack in the box it's become a smaller and smaller portion of their menu but then they've got some stuff that's more like American and then stuff that's kind of like walks the line is a little bit more of a hybrid of that I guess I guess Taco Bell to some degree is a lot like that too some some decidedly on it in authentic options Mitch what was your del taco experience I got the case queso crunch taco mmm should I read that should I just read the the actual product description no sure a crunchy taco shell loaded with more of

everything you love like more seasoned beef more freshly grated cheddar cheese crisp lettuce fries fresh diced tomatoes the nestled in a flour tortilla with a layer of creamy queso blanco in between so this is I was trying to do I was trying to mirror my order yeah I was trying to mirror my order as well and this is this is definitely del tacos answered to the cheesy gordita crunch mm-hmm it just is I know exactly what you're saying when I when I think about like that this tastes like tacos I would eat at like a taco night dinner like yeah even this one which is spruced up that being said yeah the ingredients are

fresh yes I think I wanted more out of this just because of like it seemed like it was like a Taco Bell product I should tell I should tell everyone as you're you're talking you are you are holding a del taco cup and pounding it on the table for emphasis like a judge I am judge dread for fucking del taco we're like judge fed it was tasty it just it just even this even up this this this spruced up version was like it just was kind of like plain sure yeah but but but the ingredients were fresh I mean like that that is something that you can tell I think they've improved that at del taco in recent years like the fresher

avocado fresher fresher cheese fresher tomatoes so I liked it I enjoyed it it was it was it was it was pretty good Nick the burrito I got you may notice it you may notice the name of it an epic queso chicken burrito wow that's right epic epic queso thank you for bringing some enthusiasm to this the epic queso chicken burrito is loaded with fresh grilled chicken del tacos famous crinkle cut fries cream a queso blanco hand-grated cheddar cheese and handmade pica de gallo I did not know that this had fries in it yeah when I ordered I had no idea I couldn't see I thought that it was like chick I couldn't tell I thought there

was rice and beans in this thing right because they just on the big board you can't really see in the detail of their fries inside of it that was an issue I go online to look up everything I like I was like what is that thing and then I would look online to see what it is poor form by del taco there I should say that I went to the del taco up and I'm Burbank oh so you went out of you because the one by you sometimes has some issues you went out of your way to go to a different drive through just takes a long time with me and they fuck up but that's a that's a del taco thing I have a theory about that del taco and it's

that one person only works this is the one on Glen Oaks Boulevard so I saw a guy run in there from it looks like he was coming from another store and he's ran behind the counter I liked it I like it it was it was good it was a mess here's the thing yeah I don't think that that I feel like the the what's it called pico de gallo yes it's just a little out of place there that's a good point I didn't touch on that but that's actually it doesn't it you're at because you're trying to go in del tacos favor no I'm not trying to I'm being honest it you got a pocket of pico de gallo yeah what's going on here right because it is a

dry burrito and you would think like oh it's there to add some some moistness but it doesn't really work and I'm out in the mild sauce which I put I used to do scorcho but now I now I I just do the the mild sauce scorcho is probably the best sauce there yes and but I but I liked it it was good the fries fries a burrito tricky I know that del taco has good fries they have great fries but but it was I don't know I don't know how they did in here that there was one there was one sticking out of it and looked dead mmm but what were you gonna say I was I was just going to say and I'm sorry for for partly cutting you off

there I don't know if this is the right protein for the fries burrito like I wonder if that they might they might want to throw some some steak in there or some some ground beef it's funny you say that they have poor quality chicken because chicken is the thing I get the most at del taco interesting I ordered the chicken I order things with chicken at the most of anything have you consider you maybe have poor tasting food I mean we knew that when we started the podcast you as well I ordered it every time and every time I don't like no I I like the chicken product like I do I usually do the chicken Kate the

spicy jack chicken quesadilla but then again there it's covered up with a bunch of cheese and stuff I mean in the spicy but I do the spicy chicken burrito a lot that's like my go to burrito and I like I do like the bean and cheese burrito but the chicken I do that more than even the the the the ground beef yeah I do I think they're I yeah I think that's fair I guess just when I have the chicken in isolation I don't think I don't think it's the best like I don't think has a lot of flavor to it but yeah usually in the context of in the context of some of these menu items it does work so the burrito was

good it was but kind of honestly I've had better Taco Bell burritos well of course you're gonna say that also as I left I had accidentally popped the trunk to my car as I sat down I was in my hoodie pocket so my gut opened up the fucking truck to my car and all of our recording equipment was sitting right there in the trunk oh my god in the parking lot parking lot and it didn't get stolen didn't get swiped well there's a thing that said dope boys on it so I think everyone who went up to the steel it saw that it was dope and they figured it was just curse

cursed equipment no one would want to record on it people kept trying to close the truck like this fire yeah the del taco on Glen Oaks Boulevard of if you got if your trunk pops open no one no one no one messed with anything that's nice to know I mean there's a lot of garbage in that trunk anyways park my car and leave all my valuables there good on the honest people of Burbank California but yeah it was good it was good Nick yes it's close let me tell you it really came on strong it's it's a it's a judgment time we got to decide how we're going to to to gauge these two chains and so Matt you've been listening

to the tournament but just a refresher for you and and for our listeners we're going to judge each of these from zero to ten ref stripes white stripes represent tacos black stripes represent burritos if you get all 10 it's a perfect shirt and we will and then we will award the Golden Whistle that's right to the best chips and salsa but we'll start by judging Q Doba if in white stripes and black stripes white stripes for tacos black stripes for burritos okay with you well yeah that I really liked that taco I did say that it was too wet yeah so I offered I mean you know I feel like I offered positives and criticisms for

both a compliment sandwich yeah yeah burrito if you as someone who's been roasting for before they're gonna roast you for that post mate suck oh well you're gonna get it drag me haters at me see if I care if you're like if you're on team Matt hashtag Matt fuck if you don't like Matt hashtag fuck Matt oh no yeah come at me I don't freaking care I live for the drag but you so I think for the for the for the taco I'm gonna give I'm gonna give four white stripes wow yeah I like I liked it quite a bit and I think for the for the burrito I think I gotta give it I gotta give it four also for me can do

half stripes yeah you can do half stripes I might even do four and a half four and a half white stripes that's a very good score all right and and del taco well for that burrito it's I mean I love that burrito so much yeah that's an easy five wow five black stripes five black stripes and then for that taco that taco was I thought it was fine but I thought it was a little it was a rough representation and you know as the as the Latinx guess representation matters so I'm gonna say that I'm gonna give it a two and a half two and a half yeah that stuff wow Nick I did that just sink del taco ship here I go you're both crying

the taco for in for kidoba I'm gonna give it four and a quarter white stripes wow it was good the burrito I will give three and three quarters black stripes wow another good score del taco for the taco I will give it three and three quarter black stripes wow I'm sorry black stripes no white stripes white stripes three and three quarters white stripes I got it I got it I got it and then oh also and for full transparency I so had a lot that came with a large drink at del taco thank you for saying it I was gonna say with my epic burrito and I got a large Diet Coke as well that was what I was slamming by

the way I was speaking how was that how was that Diet Coke it was good good fountain I did I did I did I put a lot of you know what the ice melted pretty quick mmm get it together to control the climate and then for the burrito from del taco I will go for wow black stripes wow that's a very good score yep Q dober this is fucking close it's tight it's neck and neck well we haven't even rewarded the golden whistle yeah oh yeah we got to get to golden whistle we'll touch on that before we get to where we render our ultimate judgment Q dober the mad rancher taco I thought was nice I will just say that I was nice and it was

solid it was maybe a little over complicated but I think it was good I'm going to say this is three and a half white stripes the ground beef burrito I like their burrito components I think that the ground beef itself is maybe not their best protein however everything else worked I like the the option of a wheat tortilla I'm gonna go for black stripes wow wow del taco the beyond avocado taco this is really good and they did they did a very nice job and I think is a meatless taco this is a this is a damn good option I'm gonna say four white stripes wow the epic queso chicken burrito as epics go it's no homers

the Iliad however I will say it was pretty good I just I did think it's a little dry I think the chicken doesn't work all that well with the fries and I think I mitches to Mitch's point the picot a guy was a lot of place that they should have rethought this one a little bit go three black stripes wow closer to Homer Simpson then yeah closer to Homer Simpson closer to Homer Simpson than the Homer of the classics okay well golden whistle oh my golden whistle del taco I like I like I think pico de gallo was not was like pretty good I the the salsa they have a lot of options that kid over but their salsas are fine but they

don't particularly impress me the chips I think are much better at del taco I think that the Q doba chips were kind of I like I don't talk against my del taco get del taco gets my golden whistle what's your assessment my golden whistle goes to kid doba doba wow because guess what there's a lot of different saw there's a lot of different salsas yeah you have more options you have way more options look they'll scorch oh they're there they're packet sauce it's probably it's very good yeah that's great but I mean just because you got you got six different options at kid over you can't help but you got to go

with it gets the golden whistle I don't know if I know I don't tell tacos chips are all that great I was I was I don't usually get them and I was impressed by I got no sides I could have the next time we go I'm gonna have to get some chips and salsa Matt you got to get a chips and salsa assessment from these two chains yeah you know I I like both but I I do think I got to give the golden whistle to kid doba because I do like I like a variety I like to dip I like to dip a lot and I like to dip differently yeah they can't really compete with that they just have the pico de gallo there and if you even want

to count the sauce packets as a sauce options are you getting a little nervous a split decision on the golden whistle I'm not nervous what's there to be nervous about key of that your Del Taco will go down my Del Taco it's our Del Taco everyone gets to enjoy hell yeah yeah did you guys hear that deafening hell yeah from outside the whole neighborhood joined in okay so oh boy wow wow it's time it's time for our decision one of these is going to progress to the finale yep one of these will go down to the loser's bracket and fat chance kitchen where it will potentially the ref Dennis Larry

potentially be handed to the ref Dennis Larry who would then feed it to Bruce the shark Jaws I mean yeah he'll be he'll be tossing Jaws Jaws his mouth and meanwhile one of these chains will stay alive to go to the finale to potentially be fed to Bruce Valanche to punch up dough boys from here on out spice up his punchline so that dough boys will be better okay we will count down from three are we saying the winner or the loser what do we usually say we've gone back and forth you song what do we usually say we go back and forth use okay we you song says we go back and forth don't listen to me asshole I did the math of

it helps what you did the math of which one one got the most right okay okay sit on hold on hold that for one second sit on that for one second and we will we will get that after we render our vertical we'll see if it syncs up because I'm curious about that thank you Emma okay we'll count down from three to one and then we will say our winner yeah we'll say the one that's winning at the same time the winner we're saying we're saying we're saying the winner we're saying the winner when we finish our countdown starting from three two one Q Doba yeah the math lines up Del Taco you said you didn't say anything I'm shocked wow you

voted for Q Doba in this man in this individual matchup I like Del Taco more more of a Del Taco partisan but I think Q Doba did a better job my mind is blown this individual everyone could see Mitch's face oh my god I'm the one who voted Del Taco yeah well Delta I Del Taco is great I love Del Taco in this individual matchup I think item by item I think Q Doba was better yourself in the foot man I don't why don't I shoot myself in the foot I was being objective no I'm having fun for God's sake you've done it now Nick I put I tried to put my biases aside I tried to put my preconceived notions of what what the

ideally air soccer aside this is the best in this match I thought that map was maybe gonna view I was gonna I was gonna because I knew you were gonna in my head I thought you were gonna say Del Taco and I thought you were maybe gonna say Q Doba and then I was not gonna say anything great Mitch reveal he didn't say anything what the hell is going on yeah why not much say about and then you thought we'd be the other one shocked on his side of the table hey do you hear Mitch didn't say anything yeah I got about that and then I was gonna say Del Taco inside with you right but it's unanimous Q Doba oh yeah you shot

yourself you're the one who shot yourself in a foot it's not the only thing I shot the sheriff he's saying he shot a load this pain that's right out of excitement freak Jesus Christ Emily so Emily wow that was that's wild that's crazy well Q Doba moving on to the finale Del Taco stays alive in Fat Chance Kitchen perhaps it can scrap its way past Poquito Moss and make its way back into the finale so we can get along a way to Taco Bell versus Del Taco Batch up but it is not to be on paper as of this moment Emma and Emma you were saying the math does line up I the math did line up it was close Q Doba had 24 points total

and Del Taco had 22.25 wow so they in two golden whistles to one golden whistle yeah yes I didn't mention this when I was talking about Del Taco I was recently at the oldest location in Barstow yes I've been to that Del Taco it was cool it's a great Del Taco they'll treat your property it was great isn't your identity that you like Del Taco I love Del Taco we're talking about individual match of one of the most fascinating things about you which is not a compliment you it's how boring you are as a human being I like Del Taco I like the minions and then I have a wife I think that's my personality wow I'm a

Nick I am I completely shocked yeah well completely completely blown away shocked wow how do we I mean I don't want to get ahead of it or anything Fat Chance Kitchen but I kind of I kind of like it's I kind of like it's odd I think Del Taco is pretty good it's got some great non-taco non-bruto options but yeah it's gonna I haven't had Poquito Moss it's gonna be tricky against Poquito Moss it's gonna be tricky against Poquito Moss which does not belong in the tournament it's too much of a local chain Jesus it's against the spirit of the tournament should have been something else should have been a Moser I don't want Del Taco to

offer a ruby I thought Del Taco was gonna get to the finals I know out now you really fucked this up Nick how did I fuck it up you fucked it up for yourself by being honest by being truthful by not putting my thumb on the scale well you let's be let's be clear you were not honest when you when you said that that guy said you can only have one that happened that was true why you can ask my wife who lives in Canada okay so that wow that was a that was a wild wild round this is very exciting of munch Madness 2019 the finale will be out next week now it's time for a segment we've got a food stuff we decided it's worth

putting in your mouth it's snack or whack and hey Mitch we met Matt Berkovitz in Chicago Illinois when we did some shows there a lovely man and hey he runs Berko's popcorn that's right you may have seen from NBC nightly news he gave us some popcorn to review and we are going to give this a test chop now look I've I've self identified as a popcorn skeptic that's another thing about me insane I contain multitudes insane I like Del Taco I like the minions I have a wife and I don't like popcorn I'm saying this is a and I'm also a Weezer superfan because that'll score Jesus so we're gonna try some of this Matt how

do you feel about popcorn I think it's a tasty treat I don't like when it gets in my teeth yeah that sucks that's one of the I like to get it at the movie theater without added butter I think no added butter it gets to I'm not trying to you know get my hands all wet right movie theater I gotcha yeah no one wants that that's a mess yuck okay so this is this comes in a golden sleeve very very prestigious and it looks like I've got some some caramel corn in here I'm gonna take a little bit of this are they do we know the varieties we got here I think they're both the same billion dollar oh this is the billion dollar

popcorn that that you song is shouting from the other room I'll bring up the description let's see this from the website man I do I don't want to eat this right now because I just went to the dentist I mean it looks great and I actually I took a bite of this before it has like gold flakes on it little like little gold yeah it's got gold flakes it's opulent this is this is like it's got you know why did we just open two of these I thought they were different flavors yeah it's fair it's fair to assume they were no I yelled at Emma accidentally I just want to yell it why you're it's my fault I good yeah

piece of shit fuck you I'm glad I did it I like this I'm really chomping into the mic here I apologize for that they could you could avoid that yeah what's what's the what's the fuck is that thing that people have that they can't hear crunching sounds they can hear those being a baby being I think it's misophonia misophonia aka being a baby they're so phonia yeah um this is a let's see fuck there's this copy here is so dense I turn on this website air it did get warm and I'm trying to find I'm trying to yeah you're wearing a sweatshirt indoors shut up I'm trying to read the disc the product description of the website

this copy is very let me let me just give you a taste of this that so you can see here how a dense and and fundamentally and helpful it is in terms of actually figuring out what the what you're eating billion yeah yeah we know but you know how hard it is to get your hands on salt from the Norse gods secret stash on the island of laso if that wasn't enough there's real gold on the popcorn too do you know it's real gold Kings Queens tycoons fire breathing dragons the guy I etc etc etc this goes on for two full paragraphs it's called the most expensive popcorn in the world and it's caramel corn it looks like

this is it caramel corn covered in 23 karat edible gold like now I think this is a tasty popcorn now Nick yes you know how to take down the goddamn website for God's sake I'm just saying there's a lot of copy it's hard to see what you're actually eating I will email your friend and tell him okay who's my friend you song no yeah email you all right oh well you song he'll take care of it I it's very tasty it's very good I I don't know about edible gold who cares always I can feel the same way it's fun I mean I get that this is the billion dollar popcorn or whatever yeah I'm sort of I mean not to be gross but I kind of

kind of curious how this comes out you know yeah gonna be a gold log I think you're gonna get a golden log it's fucking disgusting don't try don't try to sell that bad boy I got news for you Nick it's easy for me this is snack I think this is tasty as hell yeah it tastes absolute snack it tastes buttery it take it under under the caramel like it doesn't taste like regular caramel corn there's like a butteriness to it that's really really tasty yeah we met this guy look we have no allegiance to this no allegiance the no boys can't be bought can't be bought we don't own this guy anyone anything I would tell you if this

was a whack yeah I and not a snack you're lucky Berkowitz I think it's I think it's pretty good as popcorn goes I think I can I can apologize I can understand caramel corn a little bit more than generic popcorn because it's like okay this is like a there's like a little treat it's a good execution of a caramel corn which is and I think it's well done I think the gold doesn't need to be on there I guess that's the gimmick but I just edible gold I'm just over it's like the diamond in the martini like I don't need that and yeah I think that copy could be added a little bit me the diamond in the martini yeah because the

places will do that and it'll be like it'll be like the you know the the thousand dollar martini and they've got like an actual diamond in there or they've got like a you dining Richie rich was yeah the dope boys lifestyles vary on the up and up hold on this isn't a place I'm frequenting this is the kind of thing like you'll look on a website and it'll be like the world's most expensive cocktail and it'll be let me guess you swallow the diamond you can't get rich it was that come out cold reverses the process should we open these two don't know it's completely

different double snack well what are we what are we gonna do with these we're gonna leave them in your apartment they're going to collect dust your best figure in this is fucking it's ridiculous guess what it's a double snack or this is the wrong thing the wrong one guess what we're still doing it you're just reviewing an old classic I think Mitch just wanted yeah Mitch just wanted to so will you we've got some Oreo mega stuff here's the thing we're trying to get the Oreo most stuff which is the one that's like bigger than the mega stuff instead we ended up with a mega stuff it's the only one we could

find it's a pretty granular difference between the two I guess you saw no I would he looked at me and he went so I had to say something yeah you fucked up buddy you saw you got the wrong this is my fault the mega stuff is I mean it's like a step up from the double stuff but not quite as extreme as the most stuff in terms of having a ton of stuff inside of it well thanks for the stuff level breakdown yeah it's like it's a it's a it's the third tier of stuff here's my thing about these these overly stuffed Oreos how much fucking cream do you need come on too much stuff too much stuff I don't like this is a walk really I mean

it's good because it's an Oreo but it's wack because I'd rather have a regular Oreo or a double stuff Oreo I've never had it's almost pretty much cream it's pointing out the taste of the cream too much to me yeah I agree I've never had it I've never had it where I've been to the Oreo and the cream shot out of the sides yeah yeah this is this is not I prefer the double stuff in the regular Oreos I would say is a criticism I've never gotten too much cream I think it tastes good I think I like the way the cream tastes I just don't know what at what level of cream will you be happy you know why do we have to

have mega why do we have to have it I agree I agree I know I'm so I'm still gonna give it a I'm gonna give it a snack because it's door Oreos but if I'm ranking these you get the get the regular or the double stuff don't yeah I don't I don't I want to get I think this is too much very with you 100% yeah I was critical of it I'm giving it a snack too it's great it's great it's still good it's really good if this was a default Oreo would be a cookie you'd eat but I think compared to the other ones it for me it's wack I just like I like the cookie more yeah cookies the thing I agree I agree yep Hydrox predates

Oreo Oreo is like the Pepsi but a Pepsi succeeded so how about that we Oreo oh it's like peps it's like it's like a Pepsi was bigger than Coke yeah Hydrox is still around though Hydrox is still around but you know like Hydrox needs to make a commercial with a Jenner hands an Oreo to a just like a restaurant we value your feedback let's open up the feedback today's email comes to us from DC Thompson DC writes hey Nick and Mitch I know both of you are big fans of the Mario universe so I was wondering what foods you would like to eat from that world mushrooms those little berries Yoshi

would eat in Super Mario Brothers a peach I was like those were apples that Yoshi was eating are they berries they're apples they're apples too I think they can be but maybe they're maybe eats both for God's sakes let's just say everybody wins even add Donkey Kong or Zelda to those pixelated those pixelized foods any any any video game foods you would like to eat anything comes to mind it Matt you're something of a gamer and yeah I have we not said this before I think we've done this we've covered similar territory but we've never I don't think we've actually been in the Mario universe oh it has to be Mario we're

starting more I think this guy is staying very much in the Nintendo side of things I got Zelda I got any I got an answer for this go for it you got one to you go for it you know what I want I want a slice of that cake at the end of Mario 64 man that'd be satisfying big slice of that the cell is a celebratory cake the rescue cake it has an occasion to it too so it's an extra good it's not just cake just for fun the most satisfying wedge you could possibly have I'm sort of I'm thinking of yeah I mean the first thing I thought of was those like those big round you know apple berries that Yoshi eats cuz yeah some

all in one gulp yeah he just he swallows those down and then he ate of them you lay an egg and another Yoshi's born so reproduction works I also you know I don't know if Mario creatures are off off limits here I'd like to fry up one of those fish one of those one of those jumping oh yeah those big old ones yeah it's probably pretty good what are those things called they're not the bloopers the bloopers of the squids with how are those big fish called Mario big fish what's that cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap yeah I wonder how cheap cheap would be I think that would be I think that'd be all

right and what about a shy guy are they man are they animal I think that if you're eating a shy guy maybe fucked yeah it's like eating a jaw they are sentient they have jobs yeah you're right no that's like that's like eating a man I think you know what I think you'd want to eat what a bullet bill I was gonna say I was gonna say poison mushroom from the last level it's pretty good if you have a question or comment about the world of chain wrestling she can email us at dubois podcast at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 go do that's 830 4636844 and a to get the no boys double our

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it was like whatever I say is gonna go into the finals and then you know I think it's Nicole Byer doing a live show it's gonna have to eat it at the improv in front of Antonio and Rita and everyone at works there we're not gonna eat it at the improv okay oh my god I fucking hope Christ can you imagine a fucking self-conscious would you be having to eat a bunch of fat Mexican food in front of a crowd of people as entertainment yeah we were entertaining than us talking on match everything you would like to plug yeah if you weren't too upset listening to me here I have two other podcasts once candy dinner with

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