Doughboys - Munch Madness X: Wendy's VS Taco Bell with Carl Tart and Lamar Woods

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

Carl Tart (@dammitcarl) and Lamar Woods (@prophmatic) of XOXO, Gossip Kings join the 'boys to talk Tuck Everlasting, dunking, and New York eats before tackling the Semi-Soft Finals Region of Munch Madness X: The Tournament of Tournament of Chompions of Chompions.Keep an eye out for XOXO Bada Bing coming this summer only at patreon.com/hollywoodhandbookWatch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher in Hawaii, Alaska, and California, and for delivery. Previously on Do Boys. I will count down from three to one and reveal our winners on the whiteboards and say them in unison. Okay.

Who will advance Domino's or Taco Bell? We will find out in three, two, one. Taco Bell. Wow, it is unanimous. In 1975, the semi-final matchup of the American men's collegiate basketball tournament was first referred to in print as the Final Four. Shortly thereafter, the NCAA,

the corrupt and useless cabal that banned paying their own athletes until forced to by court order or decades later, copyrighted this term, as well as the phrases March Madness, Elite Eight, the Big Dance, and the Lemon Party. But thankfully, parody is still considered fair use in the United States, at least for the next few months or so, so our legally allowable Munch Madness continues with its quartet of prospective champions into our own final fork. Today's combatants, chicken fight winner Wendy's, which scored a surprise upset over suboptimal Victor and Do Boy's Lunch Order stalwart Jersey mics in the person region. But with this burglary restricted to

its bird-based offerings, can it best the most reviewed chain in this podcast history? That chain, of course, is mouth of the border winner Taco Bell, which easily triumphed over Slices-Right champion Dominoes in the Spoon Man region, and now competes with its tacos and burritos only. Who will advance to the championship and stay alive in its quest to be named Main Chain? This week on Doe Boys, the first final fork matchup of Munch Madness 10, MMX, the Tournament of Tournament of Champions of Champions. Totcock, Taco Bell, Wendy's, Ring the Bell.

Welcome to Do Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Tiger Weiger, along with my co-host, The Lord of the Ring Cam, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. All right. Hopefully this gets in before there's a serious argument about the ring notifications, and it's not fun to joke about anymore, David C. Rose at BirdFuck.com. And that never really happened.

Honestly, and also it hasn't, that alert hasn't gone off since the last time we've done it. Have you altered the alert a lot? No. Okay. So it still could potentially go off. It could potentially go off. But you're saying, because the last time it went off on an episode was last week's main feed episode. I was trying to describe to people, I was trying to explain to people how it was so weird that it was happened, but I don't care.

I don't care what they think anymore. I just don't care what I don't, I hate them. I mean, I like, I love them too. I love water more. I love him, right? I'm immediately walking it back. Rosa Birdfogne.com. Hey, top of the morning to you, wives.

Top of the morning to you, my good man. How about that? Aaron Gobrach. Oh, love all that. We are recording this on St. Patrick's Day. Yes. But, you know, what else, Mitch? This episode will be coming out on 320, buddy.

Smoke him if you got him, 320. Wow. You told me that you're going to dress up as a 1900, uh, Irish police officers. Yeah, like a classic, like hoity to, toy, to, he to do it. I'm so glad you didn't do that. You know where those cops started at? Where's that?

Boston, Massachusetts. Wow. They started it. When black people started moving up there, they was like, we got to do something. But we're rich. We don't want to do it. Let's get, who can we get to do this? These Irish fucks.

Let's make them be the regulator. And Regulate, we did. Damn good job, regularity. Damn good at it, too. Mitch, we have a lot of show today. But before we get to your drop, we do have a couple of announcements. First up, the Munch Madness 10 finale will be live streamed this coming Wednesday, March 26th, in a marathon, pay-per-chew event.

The finale itself will still be in the main feed of the podcast. but if you want the pre-show, you want the post-show. The only way to get it is to watch the live stream. Link at BirdFuck.com. Presented by Dana White. That's right. We're going to slap the shit out of each other. But on a more somber note, Mitch,

we have to address the development that is rocked this year's tournament of champions. Of course, the shocking news that Commissioner Susser unexpectedly passed away. Which I think our guests didn't know that. I think our guests are learning. Yeah, our friend died. Anyway.

Oh, my God. Why ain't nobody told me? I told him not to go outside. Let's just say there's a group of, there's a group that's pretty excited about it. Worms. They're going to be feasting for a really long time, Mags. Belly's full. So as such.

Thanksgiving for the worms. There is a void. We need a new Munch Madness Commissioner. The process for selecting a new commissioner is underway. via a comclave. So we now, once again, go live to Fatican City with Amelia Marino. Hi, Amelia. Thanks, Weig's. As reported on Tuesday's doughboys double, the Comclave continues, but still no resolution on a new commissioner. Has there been any action you've observed from your position outside the Fatican? Yes. Earlier, a delivery driver arrived with a very, very large order of

firehouse subs. And then a little bit later, the plumbers arrived. Possibly to unclog the comclaved toilets, but that is purely speculation. Now, Amelia. I heard Lamar say, what's the Fatican? They say Fatican? It is the Fatican. Amelia, my understanding is at the Fatican. The gathered Shartanels will elect one of their own to be the new commissioner.

Who are some of the top candidates? One name that's come up a lot in informed circles is Shartnell Dutton. Wow. However, he is dogged by. rumors that he's not actually celibate. No. In fact, a quote-unquote fuck machine.

He doesn't love the fuck. Yeah. And he's so cool. Yeah. And then there's this shartnell Johnston, aka the knife. She commands authority by virtue of scaring all the

beta male shartanels. But a Canadian commissioner? Come on, get real. Yeah, we hate Canada now, Mitch. Yeah. Get out of here. You know what?

I mean, we've talked about before, but we're putting tariffs on doughboys Canadian listeners if they The Patreon costs more money. Yeah, 3% more. But sources tell us that a new figure has emerged as a possible consensus candidate.

Little is known about him except that he seems to be eating off all the Shartnell's plates. Mitch, I'm looking at the silhouette now, trying to puzzle out who this could be. Grimmis, maybe? I think it's maybe Frankenberry. Probably Frankenberry.

Yeah, probably Frankenberry. Well, one thing's for certain. This new candidate, whoever it is, doesn't have a secret. I'm sure none of them have secrets. Well, Amelia, thank you so much for the update. I'm sorry, Weiger. I have to interrupt. Steam is starting to come out of the Vatican.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Do we have a new commissioner? We may have a new commissioner. Wow. What color is the steam, Amelia? You give a better vantage point from just outside the building. Is it white?

Negative. Negative. It's green. Green steam. What? Green esteem? This means they did elect a new commissioner, but he turned out to be a gator.

A gator? Is Jemmy at the Fadikin with you? Sounds like Jemmy is maybe at the fattican. Remke me perked that way. Wagging her tail in excitement that we have a new commissioner elected, but unfortunately, a gator can't legally be commissioner, so they're going to have to take another vote. I think I accidentally sucked that gator off earlier, Nick.

Yeah, me too. We'll talk about it. Well, Amelia. I went and I got, I was getting, I was, they were like, we're out of community wafers. Yeah. I was like, all right. And he's like, you can suck me off though. I said, okay, so I suck them off.

Where did it? It was kind of ambiguously under the robe. So you assumed it was a man. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Anyone would. Amelia, thank you so much. As any journalist might be asked at the end of their segment, do you have any plugs?

Yeah. There's actually a movie that came out in 2024, which you might find helpful for understanding the conclave. It's called Conclave. Oh, wow, right. Yeah, I've heard about that, yeah. Amelia Marino, everyone.

All right, Mitch, you have a drop to play. Wow, I never heard about that. I just saw my line. Mitch, you have a drop to play. I do, let's hit him with it, Emma. Here we go. I will say that, like, for this dumb podcast, your chime goes off, it's fine.

Do you know how often does a, do you get the false alarm? Will you shut the fuck up? It rarely ever goes off ever. Better or something like that. What is going on? There was a bird in my back now. Wow, it's the four chile. As Mitch's, it's just my neighbor's.

It is just my neighbors. Wow. What's going on, Mitch? How many episodes do you have to do? That was a delivery. Twice. Rogan's at my place. I'm thinking of Wendy's.

This is insane. This is insane. It's just Wally leaving on his own. He locked up. It's a delivery guy. That was. Pyakon? Unkarplu...

This is insane. This does not happen. Well, they did it already. It's funny that he asked, and then they played a thing that probably could get us mad at each other. I mean, I was mad at you when you first were upset about it. But it didn't even happen on the podcast yet when you were saying stuff about it. I don't want to get into it. Dropsetbird fuck.com.

I was just going to say, I'm not... I don't even care about interrupting the podcast. I think it's fine. I'm a little worried that you're maybe just paranoid. And that's the thing that worries me. Oh, I'm a little paranoid. No, I mean, I just like that you're like, I can't leave my house unattended for a, you know,

a stretch while I'm working. I'm just, I just worried that that is maybe, you know. I will, if something happened to while in her, I'd hunt whoever it was down, John Wickstow, fucking destroy them.

That's all I got to say. And that's okay, right? More like John Thick? Papa John Wick There's a couple ways to play it Let's introduce I'm happy St. Patrick's Day, Wiles Happy St. Patrick's Day.

I quickly want to say that I didn't realize this but the rich The corned beef and cabbage in Boston I told you this, the New England style is gray The corned beef is gray And everywhere else it's red And I just didn't I just want to address this

Because I didn't realize it was a regional thing Why is it gray? No nitrogen. No nitrates. No nitrates. Okay. So it's less, it's less appealing to the eye, but it's maybe a little bit more, you know. I always liked the gray cornby, but I didn't, I didn't even realize that that was just a regional. I think that's the way it is in Ireland, too, honestly. I don't mind the gray. Because we certainly talked about gray ET on here. Emma, what was your gray ET pitch? Oh, shit. What was it? Gray ET versus. Oh, it was gray ET versus, oh, it was gray ET versus E. E. It's interesting debate. I think I probably go with a finger because gray T's unwell.

So you eat E.T.'s finger before you would eat gray Tee. Oh, we're eating these things. I thought we're just picking them. Well, I was seeing like the corn beef was gray corned beef versus red corned beef. I think we're going to do an episode. I think we're going to do a gray versus red corned beef episode. We'll figure it out.

And you're going to come and hang with us at Tamo Shantra after this. How fun will that be? I'm interested in seeing if it will be. We'll see what happens. It's going to be fun. It's going to be a great time. It's going to be fun. And you know what else is going to be great and going to be fun having two of our favorite guests.

Together on the podcast from XOXO Gossip Kings, Carl Tart and Lamar Woods. Carl, Lamar, thank you so much for being. Guys, what a trip. It has been way too long. Too long. I agree with Carl. I can't believe that. So to the listener, I was banned from the show.

Oh, yeah. He talks about it all the time when we're heading out. I was Shadow Man. I didn't know. So I'm showing up every day and I just can't get in the studio. But they're telling me, they're like, yo, show up.

Like, where are you at? And I'm like, I'm outside. And I'm like, okay, we're coming. And then nobody shows up to the door to let me in. Yeah. It's like how Disney fires you. Your key card just doesn't work. That's what Disney fires you?

Yeah. Oh, shit. Friend, he got fired from Disney. He found out he scanned his card and it didn't work. And then he called and they were like, someone will be down. And then someone came down and, like, escorted in their office and take all their shit.

Who was this Freddy? Who did you say? Yeah, it was Freddy. Freddy Coonerty. He got fired. He was going into people's dreams at the job of it. Freddy got fired. He wasn't opening a dress code either.

Did he like some sausage? Bitch. There's a friend from high school who later got a job at Disney. Oh, your friend, Freddy? No, I said friend, not Freddy. Oh, sorry. I'm not saying his name intentionally. Yeah, go on.

Who was it? I forgot what I was saying. Oh, you're just your been a shadow band. But you haven't, this hasn't actually been the case. Part of the reason we have not had you on the podcast is because you've been in New York City. Oh, come on. Welcome to New York. I've been in New York City.

What are you about to say? His friend, your friend Harvey from your friend Harvey? Which one of your friends working at Disney? He'll tell me right now. His friend, Harvey W. If I found out Carl Nuson, when I worked at Disney ain't tell me, that problem. You'll tell me. Who's your friend that we're working?

got Disney. Actually, I have a I have a Disney, I got a Disney movie pitch. Oh, go for me. I got one too. I'll pitch mine out the earth. Or at the very least, this is an MTV movie awards sketch. Okay, great. Or an A-N-S-N-L sketch. Did they still do the MTV Movie Awards? I don't think so. I wrote for it once.

I maybe killed it. Maybe that was the issue. I wrote for it once, too. Could have been either one of us. It can't be an SNL sketch. Once you tell me, I'm legally not allowed to use it. However, you will see it on the show next week. And Dora Anora set in Star Wars universe

Okay Okay Wait so I thought it was gonna be like a Nora It got strippers in it still A young Twi-like a young Twi-Lek Okay I like this Yeah yeah yeah

Like Twylex's the dancers Like a Gungan prince or whatever You know what I mean And he asked Marrier Right That's one I like it Mitch Holy shit

Is this what would happen if I was was in the S-L room? Here's what Lauren would say he would go, well, the good thing is, there's always next week. I think they could maybe be a family guy cutaway gag. I don't know if that gets sustainable. And Dora could be a family guy, cutaway gag, which you are, you love family guy. Just like the time I went to Andora.

That's it. That's all the give us. Oh, shit. What's your Disney movie? Oh, okay. I need a title. I didn't think of a title yet. So basically it's a girl who has one of those like the emotional support dogs.

Oh, sure. But she needs it because she's like, you know, it has anxiety and all types of stuff. Yeah. And then they go on the plane and you know how the planes is crashing all the time and stuff. Yeah. So the plane goes down. They end up in like in the forest or the woods. And she's separated from her service dog.

And she's got to find the dog. The dog's got to find her in the woods. I love it. It's animated? No, it's like a real. Oh, shit's real. Oh, I love that. Or, yeah, yeah, like, and then they find each other,

and then they realize they didn't, don't need each other anymore. Wait, that's what they figure out? Yeah, it's like, I don't need you no more. But they both do this shit on my own. They both build separate homesteads in the woods. I think they, they, because they had each other, they learned how they could each survive on that. Oh, that's better, yeah.

But I love that story. I don't feel like they don't make kids movies like that anymore. Like an incredible journey homewardbound. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was thinking we could be like, cool. Do you have a title for me? I saw Milo and Otis in theater instead of Back to the Future 3. I was just saying us on the Sloppy Boys podcast.

Yeah. My sister and my cousin went and saw Back to the Future 3 and me and we went and saw Milo and Otis, which I think. How old, how was it? I mean, well, this is, I went when I was like, you know, 10 years old or whatever. Did it hold up then? Then it, yes, because it was a re-release, Wags. It's a really a Japanese movie. And I do think that there were some animal, I think there were some animal issues on that movie.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, some dogs got Arvo or something, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I don't know one of the buddies movies, too, like Treasure Buddies or something. Yes. The dogs got sick. Yeah, yeah. Joel said, yeah, title for that.

I'm thinking Andorra. That's perfect. Lamar, we were talking before. You want to talk more about Treasure Buddies when all the dogs got sick? That's not happening on my movie. Don't look it up. It wasn't Treasure Buddies. It was one of the buddies movies.

It was one of the ones with all the Golden Retriever puzzle up on your stuff. Lamar, we were talking before we began, and this is a thing I've started doing lately, way too late with the podcast, but you mitigated the indulgence of this meal with a healthy counterweight. You had a salad before you came to the studio. That was smart. Yes, yes.

I had a salad, and it was so good, too. Can I say where it was? Yeah. It was from this place tartine. Oh, yeah. It was like low-key, simple, walnuts and little brebeats, and I felt great. Yeah. So it kind of bounced me up before I got here.

And we made you feel like shit when you got here. Yeah, now I feel awful. I bring at least a piece of fruit to the studio. Like, that's my thing I do these days. They either have an apple or a banana, and I just have that pregame. You love to rub it in my fucking face. Mitch, it's an easy thing to do. It's an easy, so the first bite of food you're having in the day is not some, you know,

some garbage. I did have a banana. That's right. And I had a salad home earlier, actually. Oh, really? I got to get better at making salads. I feel like it's kind of hard. I like making salads, but I also just like, I do a minute.

You can do a minimum amount of like prep earlier in the week and then just have some cut up like cucumbers or radishes or whatever just to toss them into the spring. Well, you look great. People say you're looking. Oh, that's nice. Mitch, you're also looking great. Everyone's looking good. You look, yeah, you look, you're looking, you're looking young, Wags. I'm trying.

We're all you got to. Cuck everlasting. You're chanting Tatum. Ain't that's a good title for the Cuck Everlasting? Yeah, yeah, what that is it? That's my Disney movie. I just don't want it.

Have you seen the Tuck Everlasting movie? No. It's crazy. I'm going to spoil the ending of Tuck Everlasting. So it's like a family that everyone, what's that? He gets cooked. He gets cucked in a sense, Mitch, because the idea. The whole family is immortal.

It's like a family of immortals, right? And then an immortal. girl meets them and through some sort of bond they're able to be like hey you can choose to be immortal if you like and uh there so wasn't it a well or something that they drank yeah it's like a well they drank from yeah i think and and so anyway the the the guy is like to the woman to the female love interest uh is like if you choose to be immortal i'll meet you back here at this spot like you know whatever in in 20 years or 100 years or whatever it is um but i'll give you some time to decide and they separate. Then it cuts to the future. It cuts to like present day. And it's like, you know,

it's all set in the 19th century with horses and now he's got a motorcycle and he shows up in modern clothes to the spot where they're supposed to meet. And it's her grave. She chose me buried at the spot. That's how we would find out. Isn't that crazy? What is this movie about? It's about like a family of immortals that just like live a simple life in the woods and then a normal, like a mortal girl like stumbles upon them and like learns their secret. Is tuck young? Because you know, Tuck is young. Yeah, see, that's no good. Tuck is young, but then it's, it's like a nuclear family.

There's like a mom and a dad and two kids. If you drank from that well around 30 or so, you're in good jape, I feel like, but you don't want to do, you know, if you're, you know, you don't got pubs yet. He's, no, he's not that young. He's got cubes. Oh, he does. They establish that? Yeah, they have an extreme close-up of a teenager's cubes. What is the, what is the perfect age you think you should drink from the fountain of youth?

I'm going to say 27. 27 is pretty good. I was in my prime in 20s. Yeah. I could still dunk a basketball. Yeah. I was still like, I was much thinner. Like, I think that was 27.

27 is good. I maybe would do just straight up 30 to drink at the, just the fountain of stopping. Yeah, he's got a little wisdom now. He's like, I know some stuff, seen some stuff. Yeah, 30's good. I was definitely doing okay at 30, but I think I would skew a little younger. I mean, like, I wasn't, the best shape I was ever in my life where I was like 22,

but that feels a little young. I feel like it wasn't fully formed. 22 is a little young. Stupid at 22. You're dumb at 22. He's dumb as dumb as shit. I also like that was when 22 was when I first started to notice that my hair was going. Okay.

Because I walked in front of a CVS security camera and I was like, oh, my head is shiny. Yeah, I don't care. I'm 22. I live for a half my. You were trying to think of like a time where you could just, you could get away with a big lolly. You want to try to figure out something like a lollipop. Can I ask you, Carl, about dunking? What's it like up there?

Yeah, what's it like up there? Tell us about it. Yeah, what's the air up like there? You know what? No matter how successful, I become in life, I will always sit and dream about like dunking in a basketball game. Do you, to you as a dunker, is it a more satisfying dunk with one hand or two hands? Or is it contextual?

Contextual. Okay, got it. Because catching, like, I've dunked, in-game dunks with two hands where, like, a rebound that I got high enough to catch the rebound and just put it back in. Oh, that's awesome. But on a fast break, like, dunking just with one hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, like, dunking and pulling the ball back. Oh, that's really what you know.

That's really like, your power, yeah. And I was never like, I couldn't do, like, I did, like, 1, 180 one time in a layup line. I never did that in a game. That's crazy. But, like, in, you know, I was a two-foot job. jumper. So I didn't fast break. I would have to like gather both feet and that would like it was like strong to dunk with two. So if I drop stepped and turned and dunked with two, it was like, yeah, I'm stronger. You chest bump the guy that you just like kind of dunk near. Maybe and dunking

on people was also fun too. Yeah. Have you done alleyute? Yeah. Yeah. I'm caught an alleyute. And I'm going to cry. I'm old now. Do you think you could you think you could, if you, if it was like, I have the goal of dunking again. Do you think you could do it? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Because I can still, I can still touch the rim. I just can't get the ball over. Right.

Wow. I remember when Wu Tang used to do back, he could do a standing backflip. I remember as he got older and, you know, a little bigger is, you know, his head was coming very close to scraping the ground. That's scary. Yeah.

It sucks to grow old and lose that type of ability. It really does. And there's this guy on mind. It really does. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I mean, it's just your body. You're talking about. No, your body just decaying, you know.

It's just, yeah, things you used to be. Yeah, exactly, yeah. I have just like that. You're like, whoa, what the fuck? Because it's like I can still play. It's just I can't play at the same level that I used to. And imagine what that feels like for NBA players. Like, imagine what LeBron feels like after a game.

Right. Oh, man, yeah. And he's still playing at such a high level. Imagine what he feels like after the game. Like, he's probably crying in his wine glass. Like, looking at his son coming to the locker room. Bernie's dicks probably bigger than his. Come here, Bronny.

Come here, man. Hey, man, that's my... Hey, get out the shower. Bronny's like, what's going on, Dad? Bronny's in the prime of his life. He's like, man, look at you. You think you suck, you know? You think you real suck.

And let's wrestle right now. You wouldn't be on this team if it wasn't for me. You know that, right? Can Bronny dunk? Hell yeah, he can dunk. Oh, yeah, he can dunk. Okay. Then he's doing all right.

Then he's doing all right. Is dunking like singing where I used to think you were born. You can't do it or you can't. But can you like learn to dunk. Yeah, you can learn it. Absolutely, you can learn a dunk. Look up the knees over toes guy. Knees over, that's the real thing?

Yeah, knees are on Instagram, knees over toes. He's got to talk to dunk. You can absolutely teach yourself how to dump. But there were natural, like my friend, shout out Stanley, man. My friend Stanley that I went to Palms Middle School with. Who is your friend? I went to, they worked at him. Harvey W.

Harvey W. Harvey W could dunk. He had to injecting He had to inject himself with something He had one to get So that he could get a So he could get an erection He had one to dunk

And he never wanted to mix up the two No yeah that would be a bad scene He would have some sort of stuff He did have some sort of stuff There's awful things about If you read about Harvey Weinstein Which was like he had an ejector To get him like he injected himself

And then he got a boner Everything you read about him He just sounds like he was a little literal monster. Like, like, obviously, the way he, the things he did, but also, like, physically, like, one of the descriptions of him was like he had like a, like, like, basically effectively like a, like a carapist, like a tortoise shells worth of blackheads. Just like it was like his whole. Oh my God. And then also, yeah, his he. I'm gonna get that injector out as a state still. So once that thing goes up, I'm getting that bad boy. Well, there's also a point where just someone in said like, yeah, he has no penis or balls. Like he basically just has like a weird like lump where, where he's a unit. be, yeah. Oh, my God. He might be, he's possibly a unit. It's really disgusting.

Stanley could dunk in sixth grade. That's amazing. When we were 11, 12 years old. Yeah. Stanley could dunk. And this other kid, Mark could dunk in eighth grade. Those are the first two people. And they both were like,

like, Stanley was like, when we got to sixth grade, I was probably like 5, 9, 5.10. And he was like my height. And he could dunk. And that was always tight. I didn't dunk until 11th grade. Some people are just like, have a thing they can do.

They're just like incredible leapers. It doesn't really make any physical sense, but it's just like a thing they're able to do. Yeah, he never made the basketball team. He wasn't that good. I got obsessed with Eminem, right? And he drove his girlfriend into the river. Yeah, he drove his great girlfriend to the river.

And then what's crazy was Eminem came to our school and delivered a letter to him the next week. And we all had to be like, ugh, M. We got bad news, brother. You're, you're, I'm not going to, this would make you. mad to say this. Yes. You're not, I was about to say you're a New York guy now. You're not a New York guy. This makes me so fucking mad. That's, how, how have things been in New York? Are you, uh,

I'm getting used to it, man. Yeah, yeah. Uh, the, I, I, I recently learned one day I was sitting down, uh, to have a cocktail. And, uh, I was like, man, it'll be nice to go to Arby's around here. And there's no Arby's where I frequent in New York. Yeah. And I was pissed about that. Because they took them out of L.A. too. Yeah. There's, yeah, the closest Arby's is in Englewood, I think. Yeah.

So Closer Street is now the big Arby sign on Sunset is now Prince Street. The famous Hollywood Arby's, which closed last year. And that's a bummer. That's one of the worst things about New York is they don't have Arby's. Right. Because I like Arby's quite a bit. And everybody's like messaging me being like, you got to go to fucking Queens. And I go, I'm not going over there for all.

Arby's. Shut the fuck up. I wonder where I can get it. Do you have that beef coat that they gave you? I still got it. Wow. I still got the full suit. Someone found that in a goodwill and I thought it was yours, but I'm sure that there's

been more than one beef coat. Yeah, that's probably been more than one. I think I still got it. That might have been mine. It may have, could have been yours. I might have gotten rid of because I'm like, when am I ever going to wear this? I got the picture out of it. Maybe I did.

Maybe that was mine. It's possibility. Yeah. I'm sad that there's no longer. I mean, a lot of people like Prince Street. We haven't reviewed it on the show ever, but I did like that big hat Rbies on. Yeah, man. It was like a staple of that neighborhood.

Yeah. Well, other than that, New York's ducks. Oh, you got so much to do there to say, you know. Yeah. They always got a fucking excuse for everything. You know, let me tell you, I'm honestly, I'm not, I'm, I've got my routine. I'm, I'm, I'm doing fine there. Right.

But it is just like, I feel like, you're like, way better than I thought you were. When I went out there, I was like, Carl's adjusting to this. Yeah.

Like, very well. I'm a malleable dude. Yeah. I'm flubber. I can be anywhere at any time. Right. And fit right in. Nobody knows I'm there.

I've been to so many weddings and nobody knows I'm there. The thing about New York is like, everything is just, everything is just so chaotic. You know what I mean? Everything, like everything,

like everything, takes so much more effort than what it does here. Everything. Have you been to Katzelli? No. Ooh, you're going to go to Katzelli. Have you seen

Bob O'Don-Herick and... Have you seen Bob in... Glenn Gary, Glenn Wall? Yeah. No, I haven't seen him. Offey's from Closers. Him in Bill Burr. Oh, he plays that part.

I don't know if actually he does play that part. Is that Gordon Gecko? No, Gordon Gecko. Wall Street. Okay. David Mamet, right? Coffee is for, yeah, it's David Mamet, and coffee is for closer that I did in that great pop impression.

Yeah. Coffee is for closers and always be closing. Yes. But that's how like Baldwin would say? Yeah. So what did Gordon Gecko say? Gordon, greed. Greed is good.

Okay. It's good. I'm looking at, look, you know your own city where you live right now, but like it says there's, the Arby's website says there's an 8th Avenue location. Close. permanently close. Permanently close. Because I got a lot of messages about that too. Wow.

Is this a gotcha moment with Carl? No, I'm trying to help. It was a gotcha moment from Doe Boys fans. Well, that's not surprising. It was a gotcha moment from Doebo. They were DMing me so much. Yeah. Dude, there's one right in Midtown, right by where you work.

First of all, bitch, you don't know where I work. I could be lying. I could be, I could totally be lying. You don't know where I work. You don't know where I fucking work. This one's right by your job, come. You don't know what my job is, bro.

I'm a fucking postal worker in Long Island. You don't know what my job is. That's number one. Number two, you don't think I Google that? You don't think I googled that? You think I'm that dumb that I'm just going to say something? I don't just say stuff to say stuff. Do you like that Esa Bagel right near 30 Rock?

Who? The Esa bagel? I haven't been there. I don't think I've been there. That's pretty good. I like Esa bagel. That's a bagels place that we go to. Black Seed or something like that.

Okay, I haven't been there. And that was pretty good. Yeah. Are you a bagel guy? Here's my thing about bagels. It's going to be controversial. I can get killed for saying this. Oh, shit.

Uh-uh. Bagels taste the same. Wow. Bagels. First of all, I only like cream cheese on the bagel. Yeah. I don't eat all the bells and whistles. I don't eat all that other stuff.

Yeah. I mostly agree with you. I sometimes like a smear that's got like some scalyons in. Yeah, I'll do a flavored cream cheese. And sometimes I'll do some butter. Instead of cream cheese, but I do like just like a spread. Oh, you do butter instead of cream cheese? Yeah, yeah.

So here's what you got to do to make it real good. When you're telling to toast it, telling it toast it with the butter on it, then put the cream cheese. Then you're cooking with Crisco. I don't like all the... Crisco? No, it's a cream cheese. Termin frieze.

Got it. I know this is crazy to say, but... What the fuck you're talking about? I'm happy our... I'm happy Susser is dead to not hear this... Hey, how did he die? What happened to have? He got the jab.

I knew. I knew it. I told Susser. I told Susser. As soon as he posted on his Instagram, that white card, I said, you're fucking up. You'll be gone within five years.

Lamar, where do you stand on bagels? I was like, I didn't like him that much. And then I started doing the locks and stuff. I never thought I would like it, but I love that shit with the locks and all that. And then with the cream cheese and all that and the tomato.

Once you dress it up, and stuff, it's an experience. What was your morning, you're going to school? What was, like, your morning on the, on the go-brough? Because bagels for me were that forever. Tosers-Soodle. I was cereal all day. Cereal, yeah.

But even when you were in a rush, Toaster Struddle was another one I would do. Toses Trude. I love Toaster Trudles. Pop-Tarts. We have a big Pop-Tart debate on the pod. So we could talk about, this is a perfect place to talk about this. Yeah, we know what you're in this studio.

Lamar thinks that unfrosted pop tarts are better than the frosting ones. Yeah. Wow. Very serious. Very serious about that. The Jerry Seinfeld question. Do we like unfrosted? Yes.

I think. Were you guys, was anyone in that movie before we? Drew Tarver was in that. Drew was in it, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We like Drew. Yeah. That really sounded like we don't.

We love Drew. He's afraid because he's shits on the movie. All you get on Frost all time. I mean, I'm thinking. didn't work for me. But the unfrosted versus frosted. It just feels like extra. You don't need it. It's such a good thing without a strawberry.

Do you have a favorite flavor popter? Yes. Strawberry, yeah. It's a classic. Like you know a strawberry popter but with no frosting. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm blueberry with frosted. It will hit. Like that's like a good. See, I was a cinnamon sugar one and it was frosted. That's frosted by default. I don't think you can get that. I like that one when I don't toast, like when I used to go to school and some kid would

have it. I'd eat that, yeah. I need them toasts, but I think toaster strudels are superior to pop tarts. Toastas were superior to pop tarts. Remember the Philadelphia cream cheese bars? Oh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the strawberry. I remember your Philadelphia cream cheese bars.

Yeah. Six years. Yeah. Classic moment. Hey, when PFT says that nothing happens at a doughboy show, something happened once. What you mean? We got up insane and shit. And, uh.

Stage once. That's, that was fun. That was fun. You were there for that one too, were you there for that one? I was there for every moment. I saw snow for the first time, or multiple times. So heavy snow for the first time. Yes, yeah.

Yeah, and shout out to Royal Oak, Michigan. Royal Oak Musical. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Memory. I don't remember that at all. I remember every show we've ever done. I remember being in an enclosed van with a COVID-E Mike Mitchell.

Dricking a little jar of moonshine. I was pulling pepperoni slices off of his pizza But you know what? I didn't get the jab So I'm still alive right now Rest in peace, my man I think I think I had to say I like frosted

This might be couch to couch To couch Yeah Well yeah yeah just go ahead and I would say I would know I think I like the take Because I don't think you need the frosting I think a pop-part

Especially toasted The strawberry and frosted is good And so if that's the argument Yeah I'm with you Have you ever put butter on a pot, dog? I might as well do something like something sweeter anyway. It's basically like a dessert at that point. We got to get you out to Glenn Garragough.

Have you never seen the movie? I've never seen the movie. Great movie. I watched the movie and I watched it. I don't know why. I didn't even know they were doing a play. I went to see Old Mary. Oh, what's that?

Oh, Mary is about, what's my main? No, not my man, my they. Co. Co. Eskola. Who wrote a show about Mary Todd Lincoln. Oh, yes, you've heard about this. Yeah. That's cool.

I think you would like, I think Bob plays the Jack Lemon role as my, is my guess. My understanding, and I've never seen the play, but my understanding is that the Alec Baldwin role was added for the movie. Like that's not in the play. I don't know if they've retconned that into the Broadway production these days, but, you know. An old Harold team coffee is for closers. I think maybe before you guys got to the theater. There was a team called Coffee's Dispresent. Who was on their name?

Let's name some names. I feel like maybe was Brian Husky on it? That was a faculty team. It was a faculty team. It was like the people who were teaching at the time. It was a good. Maybe like a generation before us. It was a great crew of people.

Was John Reynolds on there? I'm just going to throw out faculty. Brian Finkelstein. Yeah, I mean, a lot of these guys were in there. Daniel Snyder. Seth Morris, St. Seth Morris. Yeah.

John Ross Bowie. Sean Conroy. Was Daley on there? Chad Carter. I think Andy Daly deducted there. Chad Carter was on there. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, all white dudes. Perfect. Perfect team. I'm going to New York next week.

I'm going to come see you, Carl. And then, but I'm going to, my girl want to see the, um, Dory and Gray, I guess Doreen, a homegirl from Seventh, that's up from Succession is playing Dory and Gray. Oh, cool. Now I'm like, dang, I kind of want to see the Glenn Gary Ross. It's a tough, I think it's a tough ticket. But, but, uh. Bill Burr's in it too.

Yeah, yeah, Bill Burr's in it, too. Yeah, yeah. That's my man. And Culkin's in it as well. Yeah, wow. Oh, wow. What was it in that? It was a different time at UCB.

I just want to get that out of the way. I love all those people your name. They're all great. I mean, that was the time that you thrived, dude. It's before you guys got there. That was the time. We were there. We were there.

Y'all just didn't know. I'm not worried. When they're going to put you on, Carl? I don't know. We got to wait. I'm not wearing muckbaga hats or anything like that. Make UCB Great Again hats or stuff like that. Mugbuga.

Oh, my God. That's hilarious. Make you see me ready. All right. I have a story to tell. I got to tell this. I was at Red Lion with one other person. I actually won't even say who the other person is.

And we were talking about writing in the industry and stuff. Yeah. And DEI stuff came up. And not in a bad way, to be clear. We were just talking about, we were actually talking about people getting online, getting mad at DEI. We're making fun of it. And then we were talking at the end of the night, and Lamar goes, this is in the red line.

He goes, you know what? You guys are right. DEI sucks. And he said this out loud and he left the bar. And me and another white guy are staying there. And we're like, I was like, Lamar, you can't yell out DEI sucks to us. And then walk out the door. I'm like, have a great night.

Y'all. See you later. I'm really glad we had this conversation. I'll leave y'all to it. Everybody in Red line. It just all looked at us and we were like, that's not what you think it is. I love these guys.

It was fun. All fun. Everything we're saying was fun. D.E.I. D.E.I. Yeah. Not much going on in early UCB days. I want to hear Nick's transition.

Speaking of DEI. Let's move to another acronym, BMI. Ours, of course, are. increasing from this tournament, Mitch, Munch Madness 10 at the tournament of tournament of champions of champions. That's right. Totcock.

We are in the thick of it. We are in the final fork. The rules as decreed by the late commissioner Susser. Who is it? Was it a sheer or Zooks who said Tots. It was Zook. Thank you Zooks for Tocock.

I think there's actually an extra O in there, but it sounds better. It's more sonorous as Toc. Tournament of TOT Tch champions of COC. I think that's what he was doing. Yes, yeah. Topcock. Tococ.

That sounds like a a Boston person talking about my meat. Tot-cock. Let me see you a Toddcock. Let me see a Toddcock. Kyle Totcock. Rule number one, there are no rules. That's right.

Just like Outback Steakhouse this year, it's no rules just right. Rule number two, there actually are some rules. Rule number three, everyone is here. Every winner of every past tournament of Champions is represented in Munch Madness 10. Rule number four, you got to dance with a one who brought you. Your ticket in is your meal ticket. A restaurant has multiple categories of food on its menu, only the category it qualified for is eligible.

As we have an example, that one of the pizza tournament dominoes can only enter with pizza, not wings or pasta, etc. Rule number five, one on fun. Every matchup will be a one-on-one matchup with each guest getting to pick one item from the competing chains. Rule number six, the Roger Rabbit slash Judge Doom Rule. Dip gets the slip. Sauce is at a loss. You can use sauce, but you can't evaluate sauce in your review. Rule number seven, the dais is denied.

the dais, aka the producer's desks, opinions on the competing chains are not to be considered during the tournament. No exceptions, if this rule is violated, the commissioner reserves the right to eject members of the dais.

Well, the commissioner is dead, first of all. Casey did decide the entirety. That brings us to rule number eight. I just want to say this. Casey has a Kickstarter for his movie. If you liked his decision, you should give to it.

If you didn't like this decision, don't give a dime to his kickstar. If you liked his decision, which agreed with Mitch's decision, you both picked in and out and in and out won and then you were mad about it. Rule number eight,

Ty goes to the runner. If there's a Thai host and our guest can agree to do a foot race around headgum decide which side wins or they can opt for a deist ex machina which would be letting the deist decide which is the rule that was invoked on that episode. I want to do it. I want to do a foot race. The rule will then cancel out rule number seven. We'll talk about it. That's a big block.

Oh, we're going to do it inside the studio. There's no way. We're not doing it inside of the studio. It would be our final episode if we went around the block. Oh, I can go around the block. Rule number nine, hate has no plate here. Chick-fil-A is officially banned from the tournament even though it didn't qualify in the first place, so this is just grandstanding. And rule number 10, I'll have what he's having, aka

the Billy Crystal rule. In each round, the commissioner reserves the right to have one of the hosts exact meals. We're going to have a mealie drop off an order to his, I guess, was his gravesite? He's not buried yet. I'm not going, regardless. Yeah. Yeah, we're not going. I'm not going to go. I just learned

what the difference between a cemetery and a graveyard is. Oh, what's that? I don't even... So a cemetery is a city planned plot of land that you buy plots to place your loved ones in. Yeah, yeah. Or your hated ones. A graveyard is just like what's on the side of a church.

Where it's like... Right. Sure. Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize there was actually a distinction. Yeah. How about that? Apparently casket and coffin different meanings do.

Oh, what's the difference there? I think a casket is like hinged. And a coffin is like you put a whole piece on top of it. I think. We got the Mitchell plot where my dad is currently. Yeah. We got like seven more spots if anybody wants to hang out in the other. I mean, I think they bought a bunch of you.

You're claiming a few of those. I mean, I think my mom was like, we'll see how many Mike takes up when he goes. There's like, but there, we got like seven or so in there in the, in the Mitchell plot. I'm going to, I'm jumping in there someday. I'll hop in there. It's way too cold. I mean, I think that you should, I think you should be buried with me. The boys are buried together.

My wife is very separately. Y'all are buried like this. You're on top of each other. Natalie, when she dies long after you with just the biggest smile, the mortation is like trying to put her mouth down. It would be an honor to have you to rest eternally with me. We'll figure it out.

Here are my... Here's what I want to start with. because two combatants were eliminated on the way to this matchup. Those combatants were Domino's and Jersey mics. Carl Lamar, your thoughts on Domino's, your thoughts on Jersey mics. I believe there's some Papa John's fandom, at least from you, Carl. I'm a big Pizzerias. I'm a big Papa John's guy, and that's because I ate so much Domino's in high school.

We had Domino's at high school. Every day you get a slice of pizza and loaded with some really watery ranch that I'm assuming was made from a powder that they made at this in the cafeteria. in high school, and they used to be so good. Remember they changed the recipe? They were like, guys, we messed up. Like, the dominole. Look, the cheese is stuck to the box, you know?

And I kind of, the new recipe didn't do it for me. And that's when I became a Papa John's truth. Some people say, only thing is good about Papa John is the garlic sauce. And I go, it is very good. But the Papa, the pizza, the pizza, the pizza. Let me see that pizza. Let me see those pizzas. Hey, girl, let me see them, let me see those pizza.

Yeah. Yeah, girls eating pizza with their feet. Yeah, it's my favorite only fans. I love that garlic sauce. The garlic sauce is very good. And I hoard it and use it on other pizzas when I do get other pizzas. Yeah, oft imitated, but no one else has really cracked it. I am, however, going back to Domino's a little bit because it's quick on postmates.

Yeah. The Domino, it goes quick with the app, too. They get here. We ordered it for the tournament. It was here too fast. Yeah. You need a thin crust. And sometimes they put it in there too long.

And the cheese is a little bit too, too burnt. And it's like, damn, Domino's always letting you down. So I go Papa John's. Jersey mics, however, is, I'm a huge Jersey Mike's guy. It is my favorite sandwich like that. You take it over Firehouse Subs now. I do. Wow.

I take it over Firehouse subs. And there's a firehouse near my house just like, there's a Jersey Mike's closer. Yes. I could walk up to the Firehouse. And it wouldn't be that much further of a walk. five minutes or so. And yet I still, I prefer Jersey Mikes. Also, they're Philly cheese steak. Their Philly is good. No, their hot sandwiches are good. Wow. Lamar, Jersey Mike's Domino's. I like Domino's better. I don't know why. I mean, everything you said about Papa John's made

sense to me. Actually, I think Papa Johns was the very first episode I did. That's right. Yeah. And I remember not liking it. Yeah. I remember being like, I'm over this place. But Domino's hits. It always just does what it needs to do. It doesn't really. like bail. Same with Carl. I'm a Jersey mics all day. I like the mics way. I like I go there all the time. Would you say you like Jersey mics better than both restaurants we read today? Is that

for both of you? No. No. Okay. Oh, all right. Interesting. I wonder if you guys had a favorite going in today. We don't have to say that. I certainly at my age, I'm having Jersey mics more regularly. Yes. Because it's more delicate on my constitution. But A turkey sub. Yeah, exactly.

What's your order? It's good, though. Can we hear you order? I do the number seven a lot, yeah, the turkey pro long. And how do you get it? Mike's way. And then I will usually add jalapagia just because I'm a bit of a heat seeker. And then sometimes I'll do mayo.

Sometimes I'll do mayo. Sometimes I'll do the cherry pepper relish. Bannies. Sometimes I will do deli mustard. But it just depends. I usually don't, like I've learned if I do more than two condiments, it just gets soupy. especially with all the juice on there. Can I give you my, can I give you my word?

I want to hear yours first, though. How do you do? What is your order? Well, you know that I'm on the big boy shot. I told you guys this, right? Oh, they got you on the jab on the OJ? They got me on the new jab. On the OJ?

I'm on that guy. So now I do, this is a sad version of I do a mini, but I do double meat on the mini. And I do Mike's weight, no olive oil, add mayo, cherry pepper relish, add pickles, number seven. That's what I do. So the no oil saves you like 200 calories, right? It's like a crazy amount.

And then I do mayo. I mean like I do mayo instead, yeah. Okay. I will do, I actually generally will do extra meat. Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I'm fine with the amount of meat they put on it. I get the turkey cheese. I go extra mayo, regular amount of mustard.

Just like, because they, if you ask for mayo, they just like do like a very thin. Right. Almost like butter spread. I like, oh, man, give me a little bit more mayo. Come on. And then, but the mustard comes in a squeeze bottle. So they just do one little thing. I go salt and pepper, hold the oil and vinegar.

It makes this. If you don't immediately eat the sandwich, that oil and vinegar ruins the bread, in my opinion. I don't like soggy. That's why. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.

I love that wet. I'm like, okay. Give it to me. That's the one I'm watching. Girls in New Jersey mics with their feet. I go extra mayo. regular amount of mustard, salt and pepper, extra pepper, and I throw banana peppers on there. Oh, that's fun.

I have done cherries. Oh, and I just go lettuce and tomato. I don't go full Mike's way. Yeah. I just go lettuce and tomato. If it was the ban salt and pepper, would you want extra salt or extra pepper? Would you like that? I was a salt guy.

Yeah. I was a salt guy. I started out of salt guy and pepper. Then ended up a pepper. Pepper guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was at Jersey Mike's the other day, and I was like, completely forgot what Mike's way was.

I just ordered Mike's way. And I was like, what the fuck am I doing? It's Mike's way. Like, I literally just like, I'll have everything that a Mike's way has. And I'm like, but I do put on spicy mustard though. Fine. You add spicy mustard to the Mike's way. Yeah, yeah.

Another New York complaint. When ordering through Grubhub and place like that, you can't never just get regular yellow mustard. It's always spicy brown. Yeah. Can I just get some Heinz mustard, some Frenches? Yeah. My dad was a spicy brown mustard.

I'm a yellow mustard guy. Yeah. It's the one. Yep. I like all kinds of mustard. In fact, I usually, we'll commonly have, like, between three to seven mustards in our fridge. I just like to have a lot of them around.

Yeah. Mustard! All right, you confused the hell out of them. He has no idea what they're wrong. Actually, didn't you not know what that meant for real? Did we say this on the podcast? Yeah, you were confused. Someone yelled mustard.

It was, no, it was, well, okay, this happened twice. This happened. I was at a basketball game. I was at a Laker game, and someone yelled, mustard in the bathroom I was like okay all right that guy's enthusiastic

and then Zach Cherry texted us yeah group texted us mustard like like the you know like I was yelling and I was just like

yes I like mustard too I didn't know what he's wrong to make it to I'm not me I'll give this a heart but is DJ mustard that's right yes

yeah yeah yeah L-A native that's right and Kendrick Lamar. So that's the track. Yeah.

How about that? Oh, my gosh. Also from L.A. Oh, my Lord. Oh, my Lantor. You sure you're sad about not coming back on the podcast? It's pretty pretty dire here. Those guys are doing great.

So we, wait, did we get your Jersey Bikes order? Well, like, what sandwich is generally gets? I like the spicy number 13, and then I started doing number turkey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just turkey provol. I feel like turkey provolone is the day as consensus, right? Has everyone kind of getting that?

Casey, you ever, you ever fuck with anything else? I like the Capacola. Okay. The Jersey Shore one, I think the number two. Oh, yeah, Jersey Shore's favorite. One thing about Casey, he's going to be authentic to his Italian roots. Not in here. Mitchell Firehouse.

I do get the Philly, though. I do get the Philly sometimes. to ask that it's pretty good. Philly is good. I've been craving a Philly cheese steak for a while. I'm like, maybe I'll go there and get it. You should go to another place. I'll give you another recommendation.

Okay, cool. I want to hear of this place. Oh, yeah. Philly's best in Burbank. Oh, wow. Yeah. Boo's Philly cheese steak is very good, too. Booth is good, yeah.

Philly's best. Philly's best in Burbank is one that I frequent. But if I just need something quick and I'm like, I want a cheesecake, I just go to Jersey Mike's right there. And it hits the spot. My favorite spot for that in L.A. It was a pandemic casualty, but it was a Philly West, and that place was, it was over on the west side, but they had a,

they not only had a good cheese steak, but they also had like, you know, you just get tasty cakes there, but then they also had a burger on a sub roll, which I love. You know, like a chop cheese. Oh, I like that. Cheeseburger sub, I love, and they don't do it too often. When you say pandemic casualty, they got the jab and they died. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Okay. That makes sense. Okay, so this is the semi-soft final match one of the Final Fork, Taco Bell, V Wendy. In the first round, Taco Bell, the winner of Much Madness, 2019, mouth of the border, defeated Domino's, the winner of Much Madness, 2018. The Slice is right. And Wendy's, the winner of Much Madness, 2017, chicken fight, defeated Jersey Mikes, the winner of Munch Madness, 22, Heroes Journey, Suboptimal. Rule number four from the rules I read through, means that only Taco Bell tacos and burritos are eligible, since that's how they won, and only Wendy's chicken chicken is eligible. So I opted to do, based on a promotion that Taco Bell is doing right now, a spicy chicken mirror match, Mitch. Wow. There's a spicy chicken option that obviously it's a stalwart of the Wendy's menu, but also the, right now they have the Caliente chicken canteena burritos and tacos. And Mitch, I believe you got some of those as well. I got the crispy caliente whatever taco.

The Caliente can't caliente rather, cantina chicken crispy taco, which is a crispy taco shell filled with slow roasted chicken, caliente sauce, three cheese blend, more three cheese blend, grilled on the outside. and an avocado verde salsa sauce packet. I also got some fire sauce, which is not part of the evaluation. But I think the avocado verde salsa is part of the item. Yes, I think that's okay. And then the burrito is the same,

similar components, except they also has crispy lettuce, shredded purple cabbage, and then pico de gallo inside a grilled flour tortilla. These are healthier options, right? I'm serious. I mean, they're kind of supposed to be.

The new canteen and stuff is supposed to be healthier. It is. And this one is just grilled in cheese, the taco. Yeah. I don't think there's anything necessarily healthy about this, but I guess it could maybe be less like potent than some of the other Taco Bell. I mean, it's all relative, right?

It's like like what's healthy at Taco Bell really nothing? What I will say is the Caliente sauce, Mitch, reminded me of like a tequila. Yeah, I didn't like the taste. I didn't like the taste. I was like, whoa, that's wild. Yeah. I like teakamasa sauce.

I do like it. But in this kind of, like a teakamasa sauce. context, I was like, I don't know if the, and I don't know if it's what they were, I don't think it's what they were going for. It's just the, the, the sensation that it kind of, you know, triggered in me. And it's just like, this is, this is what it tastes like. And that kind of rubbed against all the components and also just felt asynchronous versus like, I'm having a breed, I'm having a taco. Like, what's this doing here? What's this protein? And what's the, it was a bit of a Lexington. I think, I told you when you got in there, I said all of these, both of these

restaurants are hitting today. And I do believe that's true. Yeah. I just think that we unfortunately got a new item that was maybe not great. Was it spicy? How spicy was it? It was not very spicy. It wasn't very spicy. I think that's it was like, I think it was like it tasted like teak and masala because it was like, it was supposed to be like that red hot sauce. But they weren't trying to burn people's mouths.

So it was like we need this needs to taste like something. Yeah. Yeah. So it ended more like tequila. I got to ask you. I'm just going to ask you guys going into this. Do you have a favorite between? Great question, Mitch.

The bell and Dave Thomas. Which one is who is your, who is your, who is your, which one? new. Yeah, Dave, Dave, Dave, that's my man. Yeah. You know what, up off, Lindsay. A little bit more gray area for me coming into it because I'd love Taco Bell growing up. Yep. It was the one restaurant that I could go there all the time and never get tired of it. Also, McDonald's was that for me, too. Yeah. But Taco Bell, even more so, because there were so many options that you could, like, kind of customize to your liking, you know, that I felt comfortable customizing it. I've been a bit of a people pleaser and didn't want to make people.

customized things at other restaurants. But Taco Bell feels like it's easier to customize it. They're just going quark, quack. And so I guess it's all's good. Yeah, I saw that only fans too. So Taco Bell was great. And then the whole young brands

takeover thing happened. And they constantly taking stuff off the menu, constantly changing stuff. They ruined it in a way. But you were up. We were upset with a lot of this, too. There was a new CEO that came in.

Like, when was that? Why? It's a few years back. And then they pulled a lot of stuff. But they have been putting more and more stuff back. They bring stuff back. But I hate the way they do. Like, you know, the biggest egregious, and it's not the restaurants that we're talking about.

So forgive me for going on a tangent. But Honey Barbecue wings and Wedges at KFC. Oh, yeah. What an era that was. Those homeless Honey Barbecue wings are, and they still haven't brought them back. They're rotating. They're always rotating. in sauces. I don't know if they've, the Georgia gold is still there, but they were doing that for a bit.

A lot of Nashville hot these days. Nashville high. I don't want Chipotle. But between these two, I now have to go Wendy's, I think. Yeah. Wow. Just because it's more consistent. Yeah. Right. But I do like to try their new healthier options. I've had the same thing. I didn't get that today, but I had the same thing that y'all. The canteen. And I was like, oh, let me try this. And I felt the same way about the I was like, they trying to do something. I wonder like your relationship to talk. I think I'm going with Wendy's because I have a, it's more of a nostalgic thing. Like that was in high school, that was where we hung out.

Like after high school, hung out in Wendy's too. I have like an emotional attachment to Wendy's and Taco Bell just wasn't part of that. Sure. I didn't start really eating Taco Bell until I moved to LA. That's interesting. Taco Bell for me, my mom and I, when we would go to the movies at Magic Johnson Theater's in the Baltimore Hills Crenshaw Plaza, they had a Taco Bell. Yeah.

And so we would eat Taco Bell before. we went to the movies because the movie snacks were too expensive. Right. I did we went to the Fridays down there, didn't we? We did. That's at Lederah Heights. That's Lederah Heights. Yeah.

This is at the Crenshaw Mall, which is on Stocker and Crenshaw, or King Crenshaw. Anyway, I have a nostalgic thing for Taco Bell, too, because me and my mom went there a lot. My mom liked it because she was vegetarian, so she would get, like, nacho Bell Grande with just beans on that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah.

But then in high school, when we would get out, like, early, like, when we got, like, our senior lunch passings. Right, right. Like the whole basketball team, if we got out at lunch and we didn't have the next two periods and we didn't have to be back until basketball practice, we would go to the Culver City Wendy's and just hang there and eat the yellow box fries, the biggie bags or whatever, you know what I mean? See, this is my thing because Wendy's, we've talked about this,

but Wendy's has also declined. I mean, so is everything in the world. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's part of a bigger thing that's happening? Just that Wendy's, do you mean the one that's like on Venice and Robertson, basically? Oh, wow, okay. That's my regular go-to Wendy's these days. Yeah, when I was my first with the L.A.

I would go there. Yeah, that's so crazy. And weirdly enough, Wags also goes when all the kids from high school are going there from lunch. Hey, buddy. Me tutoring. Need tutoring. You're going to teach fucking podcasting? It's a, yeah, I feel like that's a very solid Wendy's.

I imagine it was executing back in the day. Like, it's, for me, my relationship. Carrarium? Does it got the old, you know, the glass bowl? Not really. No, they kind of refurbished it. But that's the Wendy's I remember. That's the one I remember going to in Long Beach. And for me, as a kid, Wendy's was like the nice one. Like versus like Carl's Jr. and Burger King and McDonald's. And so that's the association I had. I always held it in like some esteem of like, oh, we're going to a slightly better version of this, of this fast food experience. Taco Bell and Mitch we've talked about. about this. I like Taco Bell a lot. Going into this one, especially with how Wendy's has been executing lately, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, they were, they were both, they were both, doing pretty well, but, but I, like, for me, Taco Bell has always been my number two to Del Taco, and I know Taco Bell is just, like, better these days, Del Taco's really like, they just, they need to get their act together.

That burger used to be good at Del. That burgers get the double Dell. Yeah, it's great. And now it's not as good anymore. They just like, they keep Mitch, we were talking about, you know, earlier about menu items being removed. And that's a frustration obviously with Taco Bell, but Del Taco is even worse. They will just arbitrarily kill something that's been on their menu forever for no reason.

Like the spicy Jack Casad, I'm still better about that. The spicy Jack Casadia, we're being removed is insane. Also, here's what I'll say about Del Taco. I got it the other day. Yeah. And Del Taco of any fast food place, one of the only fast food places where I can reheat a del Taco order the next day. Sure. And it works.

And it works. Yeah. It's all the time. And that speaks to its qualities. You know what I mean? Like I got a spicy chicken burrito. I didn't eat it. And I put it in the microwave and it tasted good the next day.

Like that is so rare for any fast food ever. I wouldn't even do that with Taco Bell. It is wild how the Taco Bowl menu is so different. Like when you send it to me today, when I'm looking at it, I was incredibly overwhelmed. I didn't know what I was looking at. I was like, what is this all this shit? They've got a little cute, I would say. Now like you're saying, they always change stuff out and they bring stuff back.

And like the new part of the menu is always, there's something always new there. They've done, we don't like what's happened with either of these places. We want Mangione to take it easy. Luigi, we need you to go give Dave Thomas the jab. Preferably Johnson and Johnson Remember everybody was saying You know Johnson and Johnson?

Oh, you got Johnson and Johnson? Oh, shit. Isn't that turn it to be the good one? Is that Johnson Johnson not being the Turned up to be the one with no additives No preservatives in Johnson. Was that the single dose? Yeah, single dose.

I should have no. I use the Johnson Johnson Baby shampoo for most of my life. They use a lot of Johnson Johnson's baby oil too, right? At the giddy park. I got to. I was always outside of the ditty party with my baby oil. Like Fred Flintstone, yeah, knocking on the door.

You go to the door and somebody comes to push you out. Puffy! He's knocking on the door. He's calling you Puffy, sir. I got the Taco Bell menu open now on the app. And, yeah, it is the kind of thing of, like, they've carved their menu. I do like their app a lot. It's very easy to customize, as you're saying, but they've carved their menu into a bunch of different...

My baby oil. Into a bunch of different sections, like online exclusives, cravings, value meal. Like, it's just a little bit tough to navigate. And then, like, what is covered by tacos and burritos does include things like the canteena tacos that we're talking about. Of course, they're classic soft tacos, spicy potato soft taco, crunchy taco, one of my favorites. There's logos. But then also, like, the chalupa is in there. and the cheesy gordita crunch is in there,

which is like arguably are those tacos, I guess that's how they're choosing to classify it. They're bringing back the Cool Ranch Doritos Locos taco. Yeah, I was like that. What happened to that? They put it off the menu now because they're doing the errors menu, which they've done one already. Like Taylor Swift?

Like, yes, it is. It is very much like Taylor Swift. I thought it was going to be like 70s or 80s, but that doesn't make sense. Well, this one is like a 2000s, and they're doing the cool. But why do they take it off the menu anyways? Why did they take it off?

Why did they take off the hot one? The Flaming the Natcha, the Fritos, local, Flamen one was my favorite, which I'm assuming that shell was just a Red 40 massacre. Yeah. It was so good, though. It was so good. I like Red 40. I know it's bad for you.

It's my favorite. I think it's my favorite food. Did you all I used to have the jugs of the jugs of juice, like, from like the grocery store that were like 99 cent for a gallon. Yeah, yeah. Like, like, bird your throat. Yeah, but it used to be good. Masty, yeah.

You come outside, come inside from playing, or you pour a big cup of that? There was a great time in the early 90s where they put, like, just, you remember, like, you know, the squeeze-its? Yes. There's any sort of tube that had just, like, like, shitty-ass juice in it. And I loved it. It was, it's like a, my favorite, a red or a blue juice was my favorite drink at one point. You know, they've redesigned Capri Sun, apparently? It's not the pouch anymore with the straw that doesn't work.

Yeah, like, it's just like, and I was like, well, that's the entire appeal is the form factor. You're going to get rid of it. that like who cares if it's just a juice box I don't want that's a one I drink it's a juice box now I think it just looks like something else it just looks like a generic drink we blow it all up with the air and then yeah like let it launch and like staffs one of the other kids it's a little scarier in schools

now I feel like when the it's way worse now I wonder if they changed it because it blew up on TikTok that you would cut the bottom of the Capriza and pouch and they would have like some type of goo or mold in it or whatever oh shit really yeah people

We're cutting open. They're just like bottles now. Yeah, they're bottles. They're bottle. It's just a plastic bottle. That is wild. That's sad. Yeah, look at that. That's sad. Yeah, I don't like that.

Yeah, that sucks. Yeah. Too bad. Is that what it's like getting older? You're just like, man, my day, we used to have couches. The kids are like, I don't care. And we're reminiscing over, like, plastic bags that filled, like held onto juice. But still, I think it is, it is sadder to me.

Yeah, that sucks. Yeah. That's a bummed. They have the coolest commercials with the, like, the water. Yeah. Yeah. It was dope. Jack Allison's dad probably did that.

You know, Jack, you know Alex Mac? Yeah, yeah. Jack Allison's dad did all the grabbing on the map? Yeah, yeah. He turned Alex Max into the same of the slider. You know that? Yeah, I know all this. That's connected to the commercial, right?

I'm guessing he probably did do, I'm guessing he probably did do the effects for it. I'm guessing. I don't know if he did. We don't know for sure. But it's a good chance. They got the Alex Mac guy. Well, I swear Mitch, if you wrong about this, I swear. I'm putting out fake information.

I'm going to text. right now. I'm going to find out. We can carry on with the show. I'm going to text them as you carry on with the show. Okay, just give us an update. I'll give you an update. Let's start with Taco Bell. Lamar, you got the Chalupa Supreme with chicken and the chicken enchilada burrito. Yes.

And Carl, you also got a chicken enchilada burrito. Did you get the same order? You also got a Chalupa Supreme and chicken enchilada burrito? You didn't get that. You got that too? I did, yeah. Chalupa is a chicken. Carl's a regular beef. Got it. Oh, okay. Yeah. I got the chalupa I got was with beef. Got it.

Right. Oh, yeah. I had to change my, it was because all chicken. We were supposed to eat all chicken? No, no, no, not really. I thought we was only supposed to get chicken from Wendy. That's correct. Okay.

Oh, shit. So did you think that? Yeah, what? I was asking you in the other room. I was like, do you not eat beef? And then you didn't, you walked out of the room. I don't know why you're mad at me or what you were. You screamed D.I.

He screamed D.I. He walked out of the room. He's like, I don't know why you won't listen to me. No, I must have misread your text. I was like, maybe I just saw chicken and was like, all right, I'll chicken. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, but maybe it was because the chicken tasted did that threw me off. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Which we should have got you anyways. I will say it ended up being, for me, a useful

exercise having chicken from Taco Bell to compare to chicken from Wendy's because also this, like, like, chicken isn't Wendy's main protein. Like, I always thought of chicken like, like, I like the spicy chicken sandwich. That's my favorite Wendy's, like sandwich, but I always thought of that as a burger place. That's what people know it for, you know. but then in my head I'm like is it a chicken place then Spice chicken sandwich is the best I mean yeah that was a legendary kind of

I still love it I'm my favorite it's my favorite it's my favorite I like it I like it still more than the Popeye sandwich I know that sounds crazy yeah you tripping what did you all think I do like the Popeye sandwich more and I think if Popeye's the Popeye's chicken sandwich had existed

back when we did that tournament in 2017 I think Popeye is probably I would probably be mad about it it just wasn't wasn't around what did you all think of your Taco Bell um that so the order that I got, I didn't realize because we had to get a taco and we had to get a burrito. Yes. Once I checked that menu that Amelia sent and saw that the chalupa was listed as a taco,

I said it counts. Yeah, it feels like a loophole, but it counts. What I didn't do was what I would normally do. And if they bring it back an errors menu, my favorite thing of all time at Taco Bell was the nacho cheese chalupa. Oh, sure. And you can add nacho cheese to your chalupa supreme if you order it on Postmates or whatever. you can make that or if you go to the restaurant. But I didn't do that because I follow the rules of the tournament.

No extra, no extra sauces, right? No, like. Hmm. We could have let you do it. You know what? We just shouldn't have sent any of these stupid rules to you. I'm embarrassed. You didn't send the rules.

I know the rules. It was on Instagram. But I... The commissioner died, though. That I did not know. Shout on sus. But I Yeah, we didn't post about that?

We might have, I don't know if we post about it or not. I'm on how many plots Suss is going to take up. He's probably figuring that out right now. Like when the worms found out, I was going to say this earlier, when the worms found out that he was dead, it was like the end of episode six where it shows all the different planet celebrating, you know what I'm saying? Tatooine.

Tattoo, yeah, like different worm, you know what I'm saying? You know, like all these. All right. All right. So it was worth bringing up. Corrissant. Andorra. Yeah.

You see Andorra yet? Her it's nominated. I, the chalupa bread always hits. Yeah. It always hits. The crunchy, the flavor of it. I'm assuming they fry it, like whatever. And it hits good.

My chicken enchilada burrito left a lot to be desired. Oh, no. Because it was too much rice, which they're making. Mexican rice is good. Yeah, sure. And the sauce is good, but they didn't put the sauce evenly. And nothing was evenly distributed in the burrito. And I took bites from both sides because, you know, I'm not going to finish the whole thing.

Yeah. It's going to get my feel. We got a lot of food to eat. But, like, I took bites on both sides to try and get the, and it just quite, it just didn't quite, didn't quite do it for me what I know they could have done. Because there were flavors in there. That enchilada sauce is very good. The rice is very good. The chicken kind of maybe should be covered in the sauce a little bit more.

Yeah. The ratios weren't clicking. The ratios weren't clicking. And that hurts you. It's huge. They're about the ratios. That's what Gabris has said that that Taco Bell is about the different goo. Yeah, sure.

That's, like those guns. I love those guns. I love every goo at Taco Bell, but it does need to, there's times when they don't hit it with the right amount of goo. And it sounds like you got it's so interesting because I had the opposite experience then because so maybe they hit mine right because I had the dish, the chicken enchilada chalupa was great. I thought it was great. It was hitting. And then the chicken chalupa supreme was not hitting for me.

But I also wonder if it's because I had that salad and I was like not really hungry as much as I thought it would be. And I was just like, so it actually made me really like go purely based off like what was hitting my palate. Yeah. And the chicken enchilada was hitting it. But like, I don't know. Some other Supreme wasn't doing it for me.

Wow. That's, I don't usually go chicken too often at Taco Bell. I usually just go shredded beef, basically. Me too. I said, I would have did it. And I was surprised today that I got something that I've never, and people will be like, I can't believe you've never gotten this before, Wags. But I got the cheesy double beef burrito.

And I've never even gotten that before. Wow. And I liked it. It was, that was the first thing I took a bite into. And I said, we got, these are, both of these restaurants are on their A game today. because I got the ghost pepper ranch chicken sandwich from Wendy's, which I know we'll get into that in a second. But I had taken a bite of that, and that was also hitting.

You used to be good about that, the cheesy double beef joint. They will put flaming hot fritos in it back in there. Do you remember that? I do remember this. They now have, they now, it's just like tortilla strips, I guess. They're not the, I think they lost their promotion with Fritos. But there was one that I used to get that wasn't called the, that there was one that was like, the Fritos one, right?

And that's the one I used to get. I don't think I've ever gotten. The Fritos Locos. Yes, yes. The Doritos Locos and the Cheetos locoes. Which there's the same, are they, they're the same company, right? So I don't understand. Yeah.

So I don't know why a lot of the Frito stuff went away. But so maybe, maybe I have had the cheesy double beef burrito before, but mine was fantastic. That taco, like we talked about already, was not great. And then we can't judge it, but we got the staco in case crunch wrap sliders. And those were pretty good, too. That was good. Yeah. Yeah, you thought of, I loved it.

I was like, ooh, this is good. Yeah, but we can't judge it on that, but those are tasty. They're good. They're pretty small. And it's like, isn't it two for like seven dollars? Five bucks, but yes. Oh, five bucks is a lot more reasonable. But I was like, I was like, this is a really small.

Because you had to take a bite and I was like, I'm going to take a bite without getting close to where you bet. Exactly. I cannot do it. I feel like I was like, it's not, yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. You know, he's in the one percentile? I'm in the top one percent of mouth sizes.

Mouth and hog. an orofacial pain specialist he told me like I was one of the biggest mouths he'd ever measured Who was this? Oro facial pain specialist I thought you said

anora facial pain face. And then I saw, I went to, after that I was, I went to, you know, get my mouth extra, my jaw extrayed. And it's one of those things

like you talk to, any medical professional you always assume they've seen it all. But then the x-ray technician, the radiologist, was like, wow, you can really open your mouth.

Like, it was like staggered her. And this is a Hollywood place. Yeah. Some of their clients, they got Bruce the Shark from Jaws. That's right. I'm going to start with like Julia Roberts or like Mick Jagger. You go straight to Bruce the Shark. That's true, though.

I was starting to think of something with big mouth. Bruce the shark. Trump. Mitch, don't get me started. You're the biggest mouth of all. Yep, yep, that guy. Mitch, you said you'd never had the cheesy double beef burrito. Have you looked it up and I have?

I have to give you a pinocke. pointedly because you had this on last year's Munch Madness 2024 in the second goop stage with guest Lamar Woods. Why do you call me on it, man? I remember that, man. I was sad. I was like, yo, he's lying right now.

I was in my head like, I can't call him out. He's a man right there. I already called him out for his stance up D.A. Thank you, my friend, for not calling it out. You know what then? It was completely new to make today because it was so good. They did a great job with it today. I remember us liking it.

Again, not a menu item that I would get with any regularity. I've kind of locked into what I get from doctor. The B5 layer I like, though I do like the rice in there too. So maybe I'll add rice to the BP5 layer. The rice is good in there. Yeah, the rice is good. I like that. Their rice is good.

Yeah. Well, he's thinking. I'm torn on rice and burritos generally. Like sometimes I feel like it adds too much starch, you know? But then there's other times I was like, oh, wait, this is nice. I like, you know, it just, like, it's situational. I'm deviating for a second. Please.

Like a septum. You, uh, have you eaten, like, a burrito at cactus? Yeah, of course, yeah, yeah. Oh, my favorite. You still talk about it because it is a chain. Yeah. That, that, you don't like the rice in those burritos? No, I do like the rice in that burrito.

But I just, it's, it just depends. Like, I feel like sometimes what can happen is what, what, and I don't think this is exactly what you're saying, but the, but, but, but, like, what can happen with like a fast food burritos. It's got too much rice in it, you know? And Jimmy's doing a little dog scanners thing. Her face is like a twitching around. So that's some R-E-M-Sleep? She's getting some REM sleep.

How about that? Oh, life's bigger. Probably driven a big bone, is my guess. I was at summer camp and this kid was insisting that that R-E-M song was not, I think I thought I saw you cry He's like lyrics are actually I think I thought I saw you scry Scriy

He's like he chose a fake word He said scry And it was one of those things There's like like we didn't No one had a phone you know There's no way to look this up So it's just like we're just telling this kid That he was wrong he's like nope look it up

Like it's like it's in the lyrics I was like oh scry How would we look it up How did you look it up? It's 1980 Harvey, let's get out of here. I think you're going to work at Disneyland. I mean, Scry might be a word, but I don't think it would make any sense in that context.

S-C-R-Y. I'm looking up Scry right now. Scry fall magic. Scry refers to the act of divining or fortune-telling by gazing into a medium like a crystal ball or mirror to seek visions or messages about the future or hidden knowledge. Oh, yeah, of course. It's a magic of gathering. I should have known that. For tell the future.

Scriy. So he thinks he thought he saw someone looking into the future? Is it okay? Maybe. I'm looking it up right now. You know? Maybe this kid was right.

Wow. It's an incredible thing to learn. It's bigger than you and you are not me. Are you rap genius? Where are you? I'm on a. Rim genius. Losing my, wait, where the fuck is it?

Oh, I thought that I heard you laughing. I thought that I heard you sing. I think I thought I saw you scry. Is it really scry? No, it's try. Wait, is it try? It's try. Yeah.

Oh, wait, but there's a second part. It's try or it's cry? Did they say it's try? It's try. Oh, it's try. Okay. I always thought it was cry. Oh, so you fucking look at idiots.

So scry. Scriy kind of sounds like try. Yeah, it does. You got to try. If you like chewing. If that song came. By 19, what, 87? Something like that.

That's a good call. I think that you're pretty close here. You see here. 1991. 91. Okay, so 91, you're probably eating a bag of Big League chew. Sure. While he's, Michael Stipe, is that his name?

Michael Stipe, yeah. He's probably eating a bag of Big League chew. Michael Stipe is eating the bag of Big League chew. He's eating fruit, he's eating fruit stripe. Oh, yeah. The zebra, the zebra guy. I feel like Big League Chew is much taste you. gum. Yeah. That fruit, striped fruit or whatever it was called lost flavor. It didn't last

in seconds. I'd have a big wad of big league chew in my mouth. They're in baseball. When I, when you, you know what I mean? When you were playing baseball, I'd have a, I get it like, like, like it was chewing tobacco. I coveted big league chew. And I don't think I was allowed to have it because it was like, it was a band. Oh. Right. And so that, I mean, that was the whole reason they did it. And then it is just like, so kids could feel like they were in the major league shoe and, you know, chaugh. But, yeah. Your parents won't let you have it? I don't remember. I don't think they did, yeah.

I think I had it because, like, other kids had it, but I don't remember. George Kerry, come on. What the hell? We would pack a lip of it. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And parents would be like, don't do that. You chew it.

Right. Like, you don't, like, they would kind of regulate that. I heard that it's big league zins now. There's just a little pouch that you, and it's got the big league flavor, but it's just a little pouch of, it's a zin. Can I share a zin story? Please. I would love to hear a zin story.

Yeah. It's a little nicotine thing. I didn't know what you met. Yeah. It's a little nicotine pack. It's what people try and not to smoke, they pop a Zen. Got it. Zins are like if you had a, having a lip in, now you have a Zen.

Yeah. People have Zins. Yeah. Oh, okay. Sometimes you can do an upper decker where you put one down and one up. Okay. Yeah. But they give you a buzz.

And so the other night I was celebrating my homecoming with some libations with friends. And I popped a Zen at like at an after hour spot at like three o'clock in the morning. and the first Do you have to spit Zen out too? Just like, you don't. Oh, you don't.

You can just kind of leave it there. But the first five minutes of this were like almost euphoric. And I was like, well, there it goes. I'm addicted now. Not necessarily. I don't have an addicted personality. But I, I popped it in and then like immediately I got so nauseous.

Like it turned so quick. Oh, wow. And I threw up in the club. Oh, no. But not in front of the gals. Sure. I walked out. I was headed toward the door because I literally like just got so busy.

My body just started like thumping in a weird way. Like I felt my heartbeat, you know. And it threw out my whole body and I was like, I got to go. And I walked out and as I was walking out, I just hit the wall with a little black. Why did you do that? What made you want to do that? I couldn't hold it. What made you want to use the Zim?

Oh, big guy. Why you throw up for? My body rejected the Zim. My body rejected the nicotine. You know, you don't smoke. I mean, I was, I just wanted to try it out. Yeah, yeah, just see what it was going on. It's probably that you thought.

He was asking about why you threw up there. Lamar, like a little kid. Why did you do that? Why did you throw up? You were still physically in the club or did you make it outside? I was in the club. Oh, man. Sorry to whoever had to clean that up.

It wasn't a lot. Yeah, sure. It wasn't a lot. It was a quick hitter. The first time I ever threw up from drinking is I had a head chewing tobacco on my lip. And then I was drinking. Oh, my goodness. And I was spitting, but I was spitting.

but I was also drinking and smoking woodie. That's what I never do is from the Samlott thing. Like, it made me never want to do that. Oh, yeah. We'll make you bar. You'll make you throw up. But the big leaves. Things that make you go back.

I used to like smoking cigarettes while I was drinking. Like, that was like so like, you know, that was a blast, but I never have done any sort of chewing tobacco. I've never done anything like that any dip or anything. What's, what were you smoking then? Parliaments. Parliaments. Okay. I like it.

That's cool. Yeah, that was fun. A lot of fun. I got to say you smoking Virginia Slim. My mom, you know what? My mom smoked Virginia Slims. I was certainly tempted to steal one, but I never did. Yeah.

I'd try them. You don't have to. I mean, we'll do a cigarette episode soon. Cigarettes are back. All right, maybe it happens tonight. We're hitting Tam after this. I am doing another Zinn tonight, me and Casey. We're all barking at TAMSys tonight.

We all throw up together. Oh, that's why you threw up. I might be a wine mom and get a glasses in. Oh, my God. on St. Paddy's Day, we'll get you a greens in Fendell. Mitch, what's your most embarrassing? Like, was that your most embarrassing puk? Because I have a couple that come to mind.

I'll tell mine real quick. I mean, that was one of the, and they were like pouring milk on me. They were like trying to be like, wake up, you know what I mean? It wasn't working. With milk? Yeah, they were like, drink milk. And I was drinking and being like, blow. Why?

It's throwing it up again. My most embarrassing puk is definitely. in Cleveland with Emma. Oh, yeah. I remember that night, well. We never talked about it on the show. Happily puker I've ever met. I was so embarrassed.

Excuse me, ma'am. You were so polite. No, he was like, we were in the Uber and you were like, sir, would you mind pulling over? And he pulled over and Carl just opened the door and yacked all over the sidewalk and sat up and was like, all right, I'm good now. There was a guy from the comedy,

there was a guy from the comedy world, and we talk about this all the time, Carl, and you were yelling, this man taught me everything I know. You're yelling at a sketch. students. We could say who it is. Michael Bush. It was trying to not to include him.

It's the man right here. I'm trying to get him late. We gassed him up. That's great. He gassing him up. It was a lot of Doe Boys fans. This man told me everything I was. It's a beautiful thing. It was the thing where Walker and I was like, I didn't know. They knew each other. We had no idea that you knew each other.

That was fun seeing Bush out there. It was. I mean, look, we went to the wrong, we went to a tiki bar and we got and we got They had those, Carl and I were drinking these teaky drinks that they had. They were like, doesn't matter who you are, two maximum per person. And then you were cut off. You're cut off after two. And we had already been drinking at the show. And then Carl's not each had two of those.

Yeah, we had two. And we're like, this should be fine. This will keep us right all the night. Just two. And we both had two. And man, let me tell you. What is your old roommate? Your friend from my college roommate, shout out Jamal.

Jamal Akil was there. My college roommate was that. He lives in L.A. now. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, but he was there. It was a joyous night. I had a lovely conversation with Jamal. He's a good dude.

Yeah. We had a great show in Cleveland. Yeah. We talked about Swincons. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That's fried baloney sandwich. Remember the fried baloney sandwiches?

Come on, man. That was good as hell. Still follow them on Instagram. I get updates on Swenson's all the time. I liked Swenson's quite a bit. Yeah. I puked once in seventh grade, and it was one of those things was out of nowhere. I was just like sitting in class.

I was like, I feel sick. And then I ran outside, like, during class. and I tried to make to the bathroom, and I was just like, it's not happening. I just started, like, fucking puking in the hallway.

I felt so mad. I had, I was like, I'm going to be the kid leaving the pile puke that, like that's janitor puts sod dust. I was like,

I knew I was that kid at that moment, but while I was puking, I heard a kid in the classroom behind me, my friend, go, yeah, Wyker! Yeah, I pute.

I told you, I pute, when I was, I auditioned for a thing that was making me nervous. Oh, yeah. And I had taken the,

shot and I never have thrown up from having nerves before and then I I I barfed in the shower but um when I did in college when I did the six beer funnel and I got it down that's wild I got six beers down and then I was like I got it's cool it's fine and then I remember puking it was cold coming back out of my body I puked it all out my other one that that comes to mind this is when I was in college and it was one of those ones where it's just like you just don't know, you don't know drinking as well. So like it was very easy to overindulge when I was at that age. And like, you know, I started drinking was like, like 16, 17. And then just like, for those first few years, you're just fucking dumb. And it's so easy to just like have a couple shots of

151 or like, like, have like seven beers on an empty stomach. And then all of a sudden, you just are completely shit face. So I was like, plastered to the point where people were like, like, hey, we got get this guy out of here. Um, so I was leaving the party with this girl that I'd been talking to that I liked that we'd been, you know, we'd been friends. And we're leaving this party. We're walking out of it and we're holding hands. And she's like walking me out to like, you know, just kind of see me off or whatever. We get to a certain point.

I was like, oh, see you later. Like give her a hug, good night or whatever. Walk away. I take like four steps, make eye contact with a frat dude in driving a car and then immediately like puke out the side of my mouth. And then the guy, the guy. I just remember him like being like looking at me like in his car and just going. Oh.

Yeah. You think in front of girls is the work. Yeah. I have my period. You think? Yeah. I did, uh, I had these two girls, these like we were in high school and my friend I met met these girls in a private school and they were coming over to hang with us.

And right before they came, I did a gravity bong. And I was like, I was like, oh, they're not here. Yeah. I'm just get this in real quick. And they walked right in, right when I just started, I was choking off the gravity bomb and threw up everywhere, like all my God. Right right in front of them. Yeah, it didn't go well after that. But, uh, rough stuff.

That's, yeah. I was pen to Irma the other night and she went over and she barfed. So she maybe was nervous, you know what I mean? Maybe she's got to, maybe Irma has a crush on me as well. I'm trying to say. Maybe she has a callback for big audition. She might. Who knows?

You know, there's a lot of stuff for cats. Garfield's love interest. Oh. When Jemmy barfs, which is not that often. she gets this crazy, I call it her Joker smile, her little lips pull all the way back, and she looks like she has this, like, cartoonish smile on,

and you'll be like, what is that face? Then she just barfs. That's cute as hell. That's so adorable as fun. I've never done an embarrassing barf in front of, just in front of friends, but, like, never, nothing, nothing,

I haven't barfed on my, I haven't held the girl's hand and then barf like you, you know what I mean? Yeah, I like that. Nothing embarrassing like that. Okay, are we covered with Taco Is there anything else you need to say?

I mean, I just, I feel like the Caliente chicken was, I, you know, not the best product they've ever come out with. I think that just the proteins, the sauce and the protein. I was trying to get some context on what the Caliente sauce with the components actually are. Some people are saying there's some chili de'ar bowl in there. The Taco Bell themselves says that they're, their red jalapenos. I don't really know. I just know that the flavor profile does not line up with the other components that are in the, the

brea and the taco. Let's go to. Wendy's. So Wendy's, the spicy chicken sandwich is usually my go-to. Mitch, that was your initial order, But you did an audible. I saw what you ordered. You got what I did, which is I was like, I'm going to stick with the spicy chicken mirror match. And I'm also going to stick with another limited time offering, the ghost pepper ranch chicken sandwich, which is, I'll read the description here. Our legendary spicy chicken filet, so it is the same protein.

But now a whole lot hotter with three layers of ghost pepper heat, including ghost pepper season fried onions, ghost pepper American cheese, and ghost pepper ranch lettuce and tomatoes. Don't be chicken, eat it. Damn. First off, not particularly spicy. Like, did you find it spicy? No. No, it's not spicy really at all. I mean, the flavor was good.

But you're saying ghost pepper. Yeah, they make it seem like it's a challenge. They just never do. They just never do it. It just never happens. And it's a bummer because you want it to have some actual heat. Can I say one thing? Please.

I was eating and I was taking bites of two different things. And I don't know where it came from so I can't say it, but there was a little tiny bone in my mouth. Really? It's from the chicken. Is it from the chicken? But it could be from the beef, too, the ground beef? I have never run a bone. It was a little tiny, it was a little tiny, it was a little tiny bone in your beef.

It was a little tiny, it was a little tiny bone, little tiny bone. That's my stand-up joke. You ever find a bone in your beef? It would kill. We tried that in a live show. Yes, I can't. Yes, I can't. You ever find a bone in your beef?

I relate to that. Feedback. But I found a little tiny bone in my beef. Or not my beef. in something and something. I don't know what it was and I would

it would weigh on this ruling and I'm not sure what it was but you like you don't you can't place which chain it even I don't know what the I don't know who the bone belongs to I don't know if it's a bone maybe I had maybe I was a bone I had before I have no idea.

Did you let Jimmy near your food? I did not let Jimmy near my phone my food or my phone or anything like that Jimmy is like let me go through your phone Who you texting? Who's his dog? Who's his dog? Why he's done your DMs?

Here's what I'll say. It did not need the fried onions. The fried onions, I feel like, were Ungapachka. I thought they tasted really like just something out of a can. I really didn't like them. I don't know. But the actual chicken itself is so good. And I thought it was a really well-executed sandwich other than that.

I didn't really get any heat from the ghost pepper American cheese. also ghost pepper American cheese I'm kind of on board I don't know I thought the sandwich wasn't bad I thought when I was eating I finished that sandwich No I thought the cheese I mean I thought

It's just a I'm just surprised they didn't go with jazz You just aren't happy with any of these hot sandwiches you're heat seeker and none of it does it for you that's it here It can go a little bit Panties Panties

Pannies bras Men's bras men's men's panties We just put them on. They're comfortable. Depends. My tits look great. But the, like, I do think this was a really well-executed sandwich.

Now, would I rather have just had a spicy chicken sandwich? Yes. I feel like this is an addition by subtraction situation where the original is so good that I think if I had that same one at that same level of execution, I would have been, like the base sandwich, rather, at that same level of execution, I would have been happier. But I still thought this was a really satisfying sandwich. And if I got like this is a combo with, you know, like fries or baked potato and an iced tea or whatever, I'd be very happy with that lunch.

I also got some nuggets. I got these six-piece spicy chicken nugs with a buttermilk ranch dip in sauce. Man, these nuggets were real good. I had a bite. The nuggets always hit. Really hit. No. Every time.

Every time. No, I'm doing Trump hands. Every time. Every time the nuggets are going to hit. Trump needs to, he needs to eat his only McDonald's with him. We need to see his Wendy's order. He does KFC, but yeah, I don't know what else beyond that. It's like, it's like I haven't seen him.

Yeah, I'd be interested of what he gets from Wendy's. I'm sure he's had it. No more Tesla stuff. Let's see what, let's see. Tesla. Everything's computer. That was his new thing. Everything's computer.

We love Tesla. You're going to get mad at this. I didn't tell you, but there were two items from Taco Bell and Amelia went to a different Taco Bell to get them for me. Wow. On the same trip, to be clear. She changed. I told you not to do it, right? Can you back me up here?

Yeah. Bitcha don't do it. He said do what's most convenient for me. And it was the same distance. So I was just like, yeah, I'll go to a different one. I'm not mad. But the two items were the mini sliders and a strawberry, I see. Two things I just wanted.

Two things I just wanted. And I didn't want you to know because you will get mad at me. No, it's fine. But they were worth trying. They don't count. But I, I, this is, I said this in the, in the break room to Amelia right before I came in. This is the hardest decision I've ever made. in my life. I don't, I really don't know. This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life

to choose between these two right now. What did, what did you guys get for chicken from Wendy's? What was your guys' orders? I got the chicken, original chicken sandwich. That's right. Yeah, the classic one. We've talked about this before on the podcast, but you, like, you used to like the spicy chicken sandwich and then you're, you know, like, we're all aging and you reach a certain point and you're just not digesting spicy foods as well as well. Yeah, it's not happening, which I love, I still misident. I actually was thinking about it. Doesn't that make you feel better that yours is dunking and ours is we can't eat the spicy chicken sandwich anymore? I wish I could duck like I used to. Yeah, man. But you know, I was thinking about it. I'm not sure. I hope I'm not lying when I say this, but like, I don't think I've

ever had, I think I've only gotten a spicy chicken sandwich. Sure. Because I'm always like, get the spicy. So I think this might have, I was like, let me try the original joint. And it was fucking good, man. It was like, I guess I could have been eating it. It looked, it looked, it looked good. Yeah, it was, it was just thick. Their meat is so thick in there. Right. Like, you bite it into it, it's just juicy, feels good.

Oh, my God. That chicken, like, that chicken patty is really satisfying. It's really well-bredded. It's, like, you know, it's, like hot, like, a, juicy. I mean, people are confused by our love of the spicy chicken sandwich. It's a great sandwich. It's a great sandwich. Yeah.

There are, genuinely, I go to Wendy's to get the spicy chicken sandwich more than I go to Popeyes to get their chicken sandwich. I know that there's, I do that too, though. Yeah, just maybe because it's closer, but, you know, it's weird that original chicken sandwich, I don't mean this in a bad way, reminds me of the chicken sandwich and cafeteria food, like, like in high school.

Like, I don't know, it just tastes like home or something. Yeah. Yeah, it's real shit, you know what I'm saying? Mustard! I should have got a chicken sandwich. I do like Wendy's chicken sandwich kind of. I'm a bigger fan of the junior bacon cheeseburger. Oh, yeah, sure.

Because I couldn't get, because I had to get something chicken, I didn't do that. But are you a mayo on a burger fan? Oh, yeah, big time. He's a mayo on every. He used to eat spoonfuls over this guy. My burger topping, sauce topping is just ketchup and mayo. Wow.

I like that. I don't even do mustard like, except at McDonald's. Yeah. On a cheeseburger, you got to have. I don't do any mayo at McDonald's, but. I don't know if it's still in Brooklyn, but there's a place, there's a place Natalie and I used to go to get a burger that was a, just called Diner, is in Williamsburg.

and they had a house mayo they made that you could get on the burger that was like a $2 up charge because it was like they made it there but it was so fucking good it was like the best mayo I ever had and it was a really like Daniel Stern in there and like a

it's the movie Diner I'm making a reference to that no one even fucking knows I don't know what you're talking about I remember the rest of the cast of Diner I know Daniel Stern is in it right it's like Harvey W?

Is Harvey W? Harvey W produced it I saw that movie that was like Barry 11 I saw that movie or something. I saw that movie once, like 25 years ago. This is a New York City place called Diner? Yeah, it's just called Diner.

I mean, I don't know if it still exists. This is the place we went to more than a decade ago, but a number of times. Oh, snap. Let me see. 1982 Diner. This is the place that you went to New York? Oh, let me find it. Yeah.

Let me run into the cast real quick. Steve Gutenberg. Goots. Daniel Stern. Mickey Rourke. Kevin Bacon. That's who I was trying to think of. And Timothy Daly are the,

or the principal male characters. Loaded. Yeah. Loaded baked potato right there. Like Garner and South Williamsburg is still open. No, yeah. I was going to say, I think I saw one of those YouTube things where it's like a chef thing.

Yeah. I think this really dope chef took over it. Oh, wow. And they do like, like, it's just fucking like good. I want to go. Maybe I'll check it out when I'm back out there. I really like that spot. Yeah, it's got kind of a great atmosphere.

Nick and I are talking about going to, we're talking about going to New York City in early May. We're going to hang with you. Come on, come on. We're going to go and hang with you. That's the plan. Right? Let's go to diner.

I mean, hey, like, if we can sort it out, I love New York City. They never sleeps. And I love. It's sleeping now. It is. It's sleeping now. I'm telling you, the 4 a.m. bar, there are still 4 a.m. bars. I'm not going to, because people will jump down my throat about saying this.

But a lot of places close at two now since the pandemic. Really? Even bodegas. Even some bodegas closed. Wow. Like, and so the city never. It's, it's got. a little sleepy since after the pandemic.

One thing I love about New York City is the public transit. I know you're a guy who likes to drive. And I imagine you don't have a car. I imagine you don't have a car in the city. I imagine you don't have a car in the city. I do not have a car in the city and it kills me. How are you getting around?

The fucking train. You love it. Yeah, you like it here too. I do, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I grew up taking it here. Sure. That's what makes me hate it. Right.

You know what I'm, can I say my favorite thing about New York City? Lady Liberty, that beautiful broad. Who represents freedom-wise. I love that beautiful broad. I love that beautiful broad. Those curves she's got. Oh, imagine what's underneath those rows. Oh, my God.

I've tried. My favorite lady in New York City is the gray lady because I'm an intellectual. The New York Times, the Times have you heard of it? I've heard of it, all right. Mar's favorite lady is Hoda Coteby. What up, Hoda. Peace, Hoda. I like Hoda.

That's cool. Yeah, they do still have the grass-fed and finished burger there on that menu, so I'm looking at the diner menu right now. So I imagine it's the same. Yeah, good spot. Potato roll. Let's go there when I come back next week. Y'all like a potato roll?

You guys got to go to cats, too. I know it's like a big touristy spot, but you like a pastrami sandwich? Where's that? And where part of the city? It's in Manhattan, but I don't know where exactly. Lower East Side, Lower East Side, East Village somewhere over there.

I will say this. And this will get a lot of heads turning real fast. This is going to cause some people driving their cars right now. Pull over to the side when I say this. Let's check. So you don't crash. Okay. Pistrami on Rye is not my jam.

Really? See? That's, oh. I heard my dad. I have a turn. That's my head. But like Johnny Pistrami? Yeah.

That's my shit. Well, okay, that's Mastrami on a roll. I prefer it on a roll. Pistrami on a roll with a lot of mustard. Mustard? I do like, I do like, I do like Pistrami on Rye, but it's got to be like good rye. A lot of times I feel like you're getting like a, like some storebought rye.

I'm like, get this out of here. What are we doing? Rye bread is not, not for me, man. Like, I don't like the, I don't like the seeds. Sure. Do you see DJ Mustard and Sneaks? Do you guys see the trailer for Sneaks? No.

As well, sneakers that get like separated in New York City. Wait, is this the animated movie? Yes, the animated movie. The trailer's been circulated, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. DJ Mustard's in it. Oh, wow. I, I. They're talking, it's a talking shoe movie.

It's a talking shoe movie. Really? Mackey is one of the shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like the shoes get separated and mustard is in it, I guess. DJ Musters just in it. Is there like a hippie who's a burk and stock? They probably do that sort of jokes, right?

There's got to be something like that. Maybe like a real, punch up this movie. A real prissy high heel, you know. Yeah. We're going to get you back. We're going to get you working. We're going to end this show somehow. We're going to get you in a room somewhere.

We're going to get this guy working somewhere. God's sakes. Your Doc Martin is like, I'm going to shave my eyebrows. We're going to get you to, because you can do it on the roll of cats. Okay. You don't think you're going to do it on rye. Yeah. It's great.

Do you like a lingers out? here or is that the same sort of issue? Same sort of issue. Yeah, yeah. I prefer Johnny Pristrami. Yeah, I like Johnny Pistrami. You know, like that cold pastrami, like kind of thick cut. It's just not, it's just not something I really grew up eating, and so it's not really

my thing. I don't, I don't, I don't shit on it. I don't say like it's nasty, but it's just like, it's just not for me. We're going to get you a corn beef sandwich tonight. Hopefully gray. We'll see what they got there. Yeah. I'll talk about it.

Corn beef. You never had a corn beef sandwich? Oh, my God. Oh, it's going to be great. We're going to have a good night. The way I like sandwiches to be is not conducive with New York. New York is not big on condiments on your sandwich. They're just like the meats and like, you know, Italian, Italian subs.

If you ask for mayonnaise, they're like, yeah. Oh, yeah. They'll get mad at you. Yeah. I thought it's wild that they put, like ketchup and hot at the bodega in New York. They put ketchup and hot sauce on that breakfast sandwich. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never done that before.

I loved it. Like the bacon, egg and cheese did put ketchup in house like, yeah. I thought that shit was so good. I loved it. Well, look, sadly for L.A., the late-night spots we have, are the two of the people we're talking about today, Wendy's, what, two of the people, two of the restaurants we're talking about today, Wendy's and Taco Bell, as far as late-night eats-wise, we've talked about this. I mean, there are people involved here, Mitch. Wendy's, of course, named for Dave Thomas's daughter, and then of Glenn Bell, the namesake of Taco Bell, who stole his, all of his recipes from a Mexican restaurant. Meat La Caffe, yeah. San Bernardino, right?

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, come on now. You got to know your history. Jesus Christ was black. I got the nuggets. Yes. What do you think? I love them.

Every single one of them. What's your normal dipping sauce? Because this is always a thing with me. If I'm getting regular nugs, like, I could do barbecue. I could do sweet and sour. You can do honey mustard. But spicy nugs, I was like, I feel like you can only do ranch. You got to do ranch or they used to have a ghost pepper ranch.

Oh, right. Yes. They're ghost pepper, so it make it even spicier. Yeah. I didn't get any of that because I did not request it from Amelia. I was, the whole day, I was hoping that she would just get something anyway. But that's not on you. That's all me because I didn't request it.

I'm like, she'll do it. She knows she's going to get all the sauces. But it is a little bit of a failure on her part that she did. But the ranch did just fine with the nugs. Yeah. And I also will do honey mustard with those spicy nugs too. Oh, that's fun. Wendy's honey mustard is very good.

It's good, yeah. You like it. Wendy's honey mustard is better than McDonald's honey mustard. But McDonald's sweet and sour is better than when it's right. Yeah, we were going to talk. Let's talk about that. Yeah. Sweet and sour at Winnie's is not hit the same.

No, it's not as good. It's so interesting. Yeah. Like, what are they doing differently? Sweet and sour sauce at McDonald's, you can drink it in a cup. Yeah. It's so good. What gets tricky for me is the chick-fil-a sauces because they have so many and I feel like some, like, the

Polynesian sauce, I was like, this is sometimes just, sometimes I really like it, but other times like, this is way too sweet. But they're Chick-fil-A sauce, like, I love. And then, like, KFC attempted a Chick-F-A-Sauce simulacrum called, I can't remember what it's called now. They also have a Raisin-K-K-Kains sauce called Comeback Sauce, which is not at all, like, working. The KFC's, Raisin-K-Kin sauce isn't working. But, like, there's, I feel like almost too many options at Chick-fil-A that I can be an analysis paralysis. Do you all like Raisin-Kane's?

Love it. Yeah. The sauce is boss, and the chicken is kicking. Yeah. That's what they say when you pull up to that. I like it. I just haven't had it a lot, but I should go back. They just put one near my place and...

Oh, did they really? I have to, like, stop myself. Yeah. They just put two places near me. People, see, people act like you can't walk. Right. In Los Angeles. And I might be telling where I live right now.

I'm not telling you my exact address. I just got an idea where you're at, right, from you saying this. I'm not telling you my exact address. I'll bleep that. But right near me is a, uh, is a Brandy's doughnuts Yes

Oh yeah Jersey mics A round table pizza Wow Raising Cains Firehouse subs Wow Habit Burger

I'm telling them Exactly where the people People gonna find Exactly where I'm at There's gonna be a lot of chubby flannel guys around that area I know You probably

If you see me in a while It's always cool But I never Like, I mean, I see people all the time. Sure. Especially. But it, it, it, in that area, it's very walkable.

It's very, to a lot of good places. A lot of good places to eat. What were we talking about? Well, you can find walkable neighborhoods in L.A. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. But what you were, I think where we're coming from is I teed up, like, what do you think about raising canes? Oh, yeah, yeah. They just put a canes right there.

Cains is good. I like it, man. They make it fresh. Yeah. Fries are always pretty good. The sauce is great. I am a slaw guy. I do get an extra

piece of Texas toast. But I do like the slaw. You got to make yourself a little like half sandwich. Like take the Texas toast, put a layer of slaw on there, put a tender on there, and some sauce, and you fold it up like a little hot dog.

Wow. I love that. Now look, would canes and would chick filet, even though they're eliminated, and would Popeyes make the chicken tournament, Probably. I mean, like, Mitch, this is what I'm going to say. When we started, we did the chicken tournament, Popeye's chicken did not have the chicken sandwich.

Raising Cains was not out here yet. I don't even know if it existed in Baton Rouge at that point. It's a pretty new chain. What year? 2017? Yeah, it was around. Because I used to eat it in Vegas in 2008. Oh, okay, okay.

So it's been around for a while. So, you know, Raising Cains wasn't out here. And then Mitch, there's also places like BBQ chicken the Korean chain and then Bonchon, which got six forks. That's right. I feel like there's a lot more. We could relitigate the chicken tournament and have a completely different victor. But that's not what we're doing.

Keochine, too. You know, I think y'all got to do a separate Korean chicken episode. Man, I'd love to do that. Because, you know, first time I ever had Korean chicken, you know who put me on it? Who's that? Wow. Wow.

You know the Kiyochan and Korea town. Kyochan. Kiyon's great. And I was skeptical because I'm a patriot. Yeah, sure. And I was like, wait. I know you love this country, Carl. What you got me eating, man.

Especially with fried chicken. I'm like, bro, what you got me eat? man you don't know i took a bite and just trust me you know what too I was just real quick on the sauce

I did put some of the hot fire sauce from Taco Bell on my original chicken sandwich that's crazy that shit was hitting wow it was almost like in complete disqualification here

it's okay it's fine by the way Jack Allison gave me an update um they're similar to Alex Max Alex Max I said this.

I said, did your dad do the effects for the Capri Sun ads that are similar to Alex Mac? Nah, I wonder which came first. I think Alex Mac, as we said. Yeah. Weird period of time, lots of kids material

featuring like T-1000 living liquid metal, which is true. That's true, yeah. And then he said, Happy St. Patrick's Day. So we did not. It's nice of him.

We did that. Can I get a Terminator or something? What's that? Like that all that liquid stuff? It was right around. I think so. It was all derivative of that effect. It was the first,

was that the first liquid metal? because I remember when the Matrix was out, like I knew a guy who was in a Clorox ad, like a couple years after the Matrix, and he did the Matrix, like, bullet time thing, like, just in like a bleach commercial. So, like, they just, like, every ad agencies just imitate whatever it's in Populcher. All right. We should get to our finalist here. We should decide

who's going to the championship. Oh, my God. The ultimate winner of the tournament is specified by Jess McKenna will be sent to the first organism to crawl out of the sea who also looked like Billy Crystal to determine whether they evolved to live on land or instead returned to the ocean to build a Pandora-esque aquatic paradise of myrr people. In other words, turn our dystopian earth into a utopian mirth. And the winner of this matchup will advance to the MMX Championship, which will be live streamed again, Wednesday, March 26th.

That whole mirth bullshit, they just didn't even bat an eye. On a big-y-size, pay-per-chew event. So everyone will write down who they think wins Wendy's or Taco Bell in this individual match up and then when we'll count down from three to one and reveal our winner in unison. Mitch, you were saying earlier, I feel like you didn't get to land the plane on this thought. And I know you're writing down your answer, but like, you said this was the toughest decision you've ever had to make.

Is that that in the tournament of champions? Is that in the history of this event? I meant in my life. In your life. Wow. I think, I mean, like, come on, what decisions have I had to make, you know, in my life that are that hard? Yes.

And I think, I mean, specifically for tournament of champions, yes. Testify against Diddy. Oh, yes. Yeah, what are you going to do about it? Because that could potentially incriminate you. We'll see what happens. I don't know if I'm going to do it. I think I'll probably go back out when I have to, when, you know, hey, this goes for all you guys to, I got my boys back no matter what.

So if anything bad goes down, I got your backs. This, this, for, for two chains that I do love, why, I go. And I said that Taco Bell is maybe my favorite restaurant at one point. Am I showing my answer to the camera over here? No. I said the Taco Bell is maybe my favorite restaurant at one point. Wendy's really for so long, but I'm judging on what I got today. Everyone can apply their own criteria.

I mean, you can judge it based off of today. You can judge it based off of a lifetime of consumption. I'm kind of, you know, integrating both. But like, I think today's was pretty instructive. and I will say as I finalized my answer here What the fuck are you running over there? We had

We recently with our with our buddy Jason Sheridan behind the paywall We did a chain rescue episode for Wendy's That's right And it's interesting that Perhaps that was because we did it We were like Wendy's is flailing Wendy's need some help

What support can we offer it? I'm not saying we should We deserve credit for it But perhaps that was the kick in the pants they needed because Wendy's has been executing throughout this tournament. They're knocking out of the park. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like. That's my

feeling about Wendy's right now. But let's reveal our answers. We will turn these around on the count of three. Just like Carl said that you could you could dunk again. If you wanted to. If I wanted to. You could turn back the clock. But I'd rather be a frequent guest on this show.

And Wendy's is proving they can dunk still. They got it. They still got it. They still got it. they dunk now? It could be like in a horse awakened or sorry, rising Skywalker basketball parody. After my episode six reference went over so well.

I think I I made the, this is a hard decision, but I think I made the one I think is right. I made the decision that is in my heart, but I have made peace with either of these going on to win. I will count down from three to one and we reveal our answers

and say aloud who we think should win this first final fork matchup, revealing in three, two, one. Wendy's. Wow. It's three to one. Wendy's has to be a Taco Bell.

I can't believe you didn't put you didn't put the neck thing. If you look at Wendy's collar, for those of you who like a little, trivia, if you look at Wendy's collar, it spells mom. Wow. Just beautiful. That's some good trivia. Wait, is this in yours or just in the Wendy's collar? regular.

No, Wendy. Oh, yours doesn't have that. Oh, you do have in yours. Yeah. Wise, I can't believe this. The dream of a Taco Bell versus Taco Bell finale is gone. It is dead.

Taco Bell's first bid is eliminated. Wendy's moving on to the championship. A Cinderella run. Wow. I can't believe it. And I didn't even vote for Wendy's is one. You know, I'm happy. Brackets are busting all over the place.

She's a beautiful broad. I love her just as much as I love Lady Liberty. In the immortal words of Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross, Wendy's is for winners. Wow. Well said. You've got to see the movie. Wow, Wendy's. Moving on.

Just like a restaurant without your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Wendy's is in the finals. Wendy's is in the finals. I can't believe it. But, you know, hey, that's why we play the games. Hey, let's open to the feedback. Today's email comes from Luke.

Luke writes, in honor of Amelia, I'm going to try this again with brevity. My dad once yelled at me and my brothers that dinner wouldn't be over until we ate our KFC coal slaw. It lasted like an hour and got super intense and parentheses funny now. Do the boys have any food trauma that comes up every time they hear

or see that food? I mean, like I can certainly think of food poisoning related things. Like for like Portabella mushrooms for a while for me were a non-starter because they had like a portabella mushroom like related to food poisoning. This just is a disgusting association.

But I don't think that's exactly what the question is asking. And the question is like, do you have some sort of some sort of memory associated with a food that is associated with some other trauma. Also, what the fuck was going on with this guy's dad? He was mad that his kids wouldn't eat the KFC Kohl-Slaw? Got to eat your vegetables.

You're mayoed vegetables. Eat your feet of their size. I'm not tripping or the KFC coal slah used to have raisins in it. Ooh, that's a great question. I definitely had coleslaw with raisins. I don't remember the KFC coleslaw having raisins. Maybe it did. That might have been churches, Koleslaw, that had raisins in it.

It was always good. I always enjoyed it. When we did, we haven't to read churches and forever, but we love church as chicken. I'm not a, I don't, don't put no raisins in my potato salad, but raisins in coastlaw. Yeah, sure. That'll work. Yeah. Yeah.

I like a grape in my chicken salad. Oh, that's a lot of fun. I, I, there was. Just one grape or? Well, you know, multiple grapes. If you can afford, if you know, if the, if the, if the marketplace can afford the grapes, put as many as you want in there. Not too many, I guess. I'm going to say, I, I told this before, wise, but my mom was making lemon.

chicken and I did throw up to go back to yeah and I never have liked lemon chicken since then like a lemon style chicken uh but there's honestly I ate a sandwich at the airport a LeBreya Bakery sandwich and I love Lebraya Bakery but there was

a rock in it you know yes yeah and I uh forever because I almost cracked my tooth I always think about that with LeBrea bakery which they they're great sandwiches I don't know what the fuck happened and bread and whatever but hmm something like this that has like that an emotion of the trauma.

That's what I'm trying to think of something where there was like a family fight or like, you know, like a friendship ended. And so that the meal I was eating at the time was, you know, locked in my mind. I can't think of something specific. Yeah, go on. As a member of the Dead Dad Club, I've made this joke that you get a lot of, you get a lot of the, what are the fruit bouquets? Edible arrangements. Edible arrangements. That's like, so my, what I associate with edible arrangements is like, my dad is dead.

You know what I mean? Like I was just eating chocolate covered pineapple and being like, oh, my dad's dead. This sucks. But, you know, it was good, you know, good fruit I got from it. Yeah, right. You know, not worth the trade-off, we've said before for the whole arrangement. My grandmother used to make a chicken, like a baked chicken casserole that was, like, really disgusting. She did it with, like, canned chicken, and none of my cousins liked it.

And we used to, like, trade on our plates when the adults weren't looking, like, if you take my cassero, I'll take your green beans kind of thing. Oh, man. And there was one time that we had it, and none of us ate it. So none of us got dessert. And then my grandfather sat us all down the next day and told us how disrespect. full we were for not eating dinner the night before. Wow. I have not encountered chicken casserole again in my life ever, but if

I did, I'd be like, no. Yeah. Wow. That's intense. Canned chicken is, I made my sister's buffalo chicken dip with canned chicken once, and everyone was so mad. It tastes like tuna. Yeah. It doesn't work. You got to just get that rotisserie. You got to get the rotisserie.

You got to get the rotisserie. I guess if I generalize this to spills, I certainly have a lot of spills over the years. I do spill a I spilled this morning. I dropped my French press on the floor and fucking like just shattered glass everywhere. I still a lot. I spill my food all the time. Yeah. And I do have this thing at Carl knows because I wear white a lot. And like my daddy, he wears white a lot. I think my dad's like the coolest guy. Yeah. He never spills anything on it. So I feel like I have this subconscious thing where

I keep trying to do that, but it doesn't work. I always feel stuff on it. It's really perilous to like because I also like to wear white and yeah that's that's it's a high risk maneuver and yeah spiller I went to the movies and I got a I was wearing a white like like jacket and I got two hot dogs and then the mustard was like erratic it was like going everywhere when I was using the pump the AMC pump but I didn't get a drop on my on my jacket and I like I was more satisfied with that than like yeah it's a beautiful thing I feel I'm so happy that didn't spill what was just like jacket you were What was it?

I got this jacket in San Francisco. Yeah, yeah. I bet it's dope. Let me see. I like it. Yeah. Tell me a picture. Yeah, I will.

I also spilled, this is one of my worst spill stories. It was my first day in a writer's room. Like, I was like so excited. I never, you know, like never thought I ever get this far. We ordered Thai food for lunch and we're all in the room. I didn't really know what the hell I was doing. Like, I wasn't really talking. I was just sitting there.

Yeah, sure. And the lunch came in. I had Pat C.U. And everyone left the room. to go eat except for the showrunner and the executive producer. So just the three of us in there. But they're not talking to me. They're having, like, an important conversation amongst themselves.

And then I dropped the E-PACU fell off the table all over the floor. Oh, my God. They didn't acknowledge it at all. They just kept talking. And then I was like, then I tried to clean it up. It took like five minutes. I cleaned it up. And I put it back on the table and it fell again right at front of it.

And they still did not acknowledge it. so embarrassing. Where did you put it? It was like, it was on the corner or just on the corner of the table. You do. I put this shit on the corner like that. Lamar is,

being on putting something on the edge of a table. And it's the most anxiety. I be trying not to like disrespect his manhood, but there have been times where I just like, we'd be having a conversation and his drink be like right on the edge. I just be like, yeah, yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh. I don't know why. I told, I mentioned this one of,

Don't be moving another man's drink. It's about my manhood right now. I mentioned this on the podcast fairly recently, Carl, but this was another tour story where I had an open coffee, like I got coffee and then they took the lid off and we were in the car because it was just like just to cool it off. I don't even remember this at all, but you just looked at me with like holding it,

like knowing that I spill, holding like an open coffee in a moving car. And he just go, Nick, what do you do? Oh, it's so similar. I feel like I don't learn this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do it all the time, but I'm not going to change. I don't know.

It's just what it is. I'll be honest with you. I would have fired your ass that day if I was that show runner. But what happened? Did he put it in the script or anything? Or did he just never, even when it happened the second time, he just didn't even, he didn't say that. Yeah, I didn't, nothing. Yeah, I guess the rest of the history.

No, I think like he didn't really do nothing. I mean, he didn't say anything. I just walked away, walked out the room, just sat in my office kind of about myself. And had no lunch? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. And then, but, you know, whatever.

I was so excited that we actually were getting free lunch. I was like, oh, cool, I'll just get something later. But I ended up doing really well there. But, yeah, I never talked about it with them. I should bring it up now, now that we're like. Yeah, do you think they ignored it? Or do you think they didn't see it? I think they were being mean.

And I think they, like, we're not going to acknowledge this. Like, I think they knew how embarrassing this was. And I think they're like, we're going to let him deal with this. But it's possible they also were like, it's less embarrassing for us not to say anything. Like maybe they could have been processing it that way. It could have been trying to. I don't know. I feel like in a comedy room, it's like you should, you got to say so.

Like it's like, I would much prefer you laugh at me in this moment. But not laughing is like, that's just so much more. By the way, you're kind of the only guy not in the green hat gang, Wags. I got the green socks and the green, my Spy family shirt. Yeah, but we got all guys, we got all three. We had a different colored hat. Emma gave us the, Emma gave us the Conover light, because Conover, light because Conover's got to be in here. So we got to, we got to wrap things up.

I do want to ask the dais real quick, like, where would you have voted in this, in Taco Bell versus Wendy's? If it was a tie. I mean, I haven't had Wendy's in so long, so I feel like I can't really say Wendy, like my opinion on Wendy, so I guess Taco Bell. By default. Yeah. Wendy's W. Wow. Casey, once again, it falls to you. Hypothetically here. There's no stakes. I like Wendy's Moore, so probably Wendy's. Wow. Wendy's would have won. Wendy's Wins Clean. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at Feedbag at birdfuck.com or leaves the voicemail at 830-go-0.

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where the other final fork matchup will take place Taco Bell versus In and Out Burger on Tuesday. Carl Tart, Lamar Woods, y'all are the best. Thank you so much for being. Thank you for having us. What a joy. Can we tell you something? Can we make a world announcement? We got a big announcement. We got a big announcement.

Wow. Oh my God. I think I know what this is. This is a world, a world premiere announcement. No, the world premiere. So you may have heard us do, or watch the complete series of Gossip Girl here with the Hague. This was a head gun podcast. Yes. And we watched it. It was called XOXOGossip Kings.

Great podcasts. With the great Blake lively and the great Justin Baldi. Two of our favorites. And that show ended. I watched the whole series. Well, there's another show that I've never watched before that. Lamar has watched and he told me that I should watch it. And that show is called The Sopranos.

Wow. And so starting this summer over at patreon.com slash Hollywood Handbook. Wow. Lamar and I will be launching the show, Exo Xo X-O-Xo. Bada beans. Forget about it. Forget about it.

What are you doing? What are you doing? I've been wanting Carl to watch this so for so long. It is one of the best shows. I can't wait. I think he'll, I think he's going to love it. I just rewashed all of the Sopranos in the past couple of months, and it's fantastic. There's so many things I can't wait for you to see. I'm very excited to see.

I'm a little bit nervous about the racism, and if I want to continue to watch, I know it's there. I'm fine watching racism. I watch, I'm a Patreon subscriber to Doob Boys. But I just have to get ready for it. But I am that will be launching this summer. We're going to watch the whole series, hopefully before I have to go back to Waik in the fall. And that'll be on patreon.com slash Hollywood Handbook.

We've got to get out of here. I'm so excited for this show. I'm so excited to it for y'all's take on this. I can't wait. And just remember, they're not supposed to be hero. Even though a lot of the world took Tony Soprano and his friends as heroes, they're not good guys. You should be telling that to Amelia.

He's the good guy. They're multifaceted. That's fair. I wish we had time to ask about Satrialli's versus Vesuvio, but that'll have to be for a future episode. Yeah, when he knows what it is. There you know what that is. Oh, yeah. You have an opinion about that.

That'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys. Until next time, for the spoon, remember, Michael, I'm Nick Walker. Happy Eaton. See ya. Wow. Woo! That was a head gum podcast.