Doughboys - Munch Madness XI: Big Mac vs Double Cheeseburger with Nick Corirossi and Armen Weitzman

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

Nick Corirossi (@thenapaboys) and Armen Weitzman (@armenweitzman) join the 'boys to talk The Napa Boys, wine, and Avatar before kicking off the Quarter Pounder Final round of Munch Madness XI: The Tournament of Champions: Reheated Rivalry with The Grimace Region.The Napa Boys is out in theaters in NY on 3/6, and everywhere else on 3/13.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Hey, buddy, the dough boys are going where we've never been before, the Midwest. Well, I mean, we've been to the Midwest, but we've never been to Nebraska or Iowa, and we're going to be there with Iowa's own Paul Russ. That's right. We will be at the Funny Bone in Omaha, Nebraska on Wednesday, March 18th, and we will be at the Funny Bone again in Des Moines, Iowa on Thursday, March 19. Please join us for those shows.

It's going to be so fun. We're happy to be going there. And there's going to be some new restaurants we're going to get to try that are very local, hopefully, to these specific regions. So excited to be in Omaha, excited to be in Des Moines, excited to be there with Mitch and Emma and Amelia and Paul Rest. Tickets at dope boyspodcast.com slash live. In 1961, Ray Kroc purchased a burgeoning burger brand from its eponymous brother founders. At the time, the only beef options on the menu were the hamburger and the cheeseburger. In 1965, Crox Kingdom doubled its pleasure with a two-patti-two-chise cheese upgrade called the double cheeseburger.

In short order, in 1967, the chain introduced the signature burger varietal, the Big Mac, consisting of, as the jingle goes, two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun, end quote. While these two beloved hamburger sandwiches have continued to be staples of the menu today, both had to look on with envy as fries took home the Dave Thomas Cup in the first full-menu-brew that was Munch Madness 5 Mac Attack. The double cheeseburger was ultimately the second-place finisher, and the Big Mac was shockingly eliminated in the first round. And today, both of these previous also-rans get a second chance at glory as a tournament

of past losers will end with one big winner. Which menu item in this Mickey D's mirror match most deserves another bite at the apple, although we will not be eating any fruit in this tournament. This week on Doe Boys, the opening round. round of Munch Madness 11, the tournament of champions, reheated rivalry, Grimmis region. Mitch's Big Mac, Wiger's double cheeseburger. Ring the bell. It's quiet.

It's starting. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Tiger Weiger, along with my co-host. The Napa Cabbage Boy, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell. Napa Cabbage. It's a varietal of cabbage. Napa cabbage because Napa boys We're talking about today

I'm not like a big vegetable guy No you don't say You don't have a favorite cabbage What is your top green vegetable? Corned beef and cabbage There you go There you go My top green vegetable

Yeah I would say my top green vegetable is lettuce I'd say spinach I think spinach is really Because you can have it hot I'm not happy about that You can have it hot You can have it as a salad

It works both ways I wonder what our guest answer is because I mean lettuce. I like a salad. I don't have to put the headphones, too. I just want to let our guests know he doesn't have to put his headphones on. I told him. He said he likes him. You like the headphones. Yes, I do.

Okay. Whatever makes you comfortable. Just love having fun. And now back to the show. Now back to the show. Hey, y'all. Here's a low effort roast in honor of Napa Boys coming to theaters in February. Thanks for 10 years of keeping me company while I work cleaning toilets.

Ramona. Wow. Thank you, Ramona. Thank you for your service. Roast at Birdfuck.com. We love it. We love our custodian listeners, our janitor listeners. I don't know who does it here at Hegum, but who cleans the toilets here at Hegum, but that is a...

I'll answer, no one. I mean, it's half with the, there's a lot of hunks here who don't use the toilet. I think that's the main thing. But then there's us. Yeah. So I don't know what the tradeoff is exactly. Why? Is it bad today?

It all evens out. No, I haven't used the toilet today. Not yet. Since the, since Munch Madness has begun, Nick. That's right. The Tournament of Champions is back. Munch Madness is nigh. We could have ended it after year 10, but no, it continues on. We're going to keep doing this to ourselves. No, we should, maybe shouldn't have continued doing it. We could have ended it.

Our guest is to, look, it's, you don't have to be, most of our audience is audio only, so you don't have to be distracted by our guest polishing his glasses. That's right. A little fun for the Viewers. Of course you don't need to. It's still fun. Mitch,

we have a real spectacle of an episode today. We do, We do, We just got dinner with my mom and sister. I did. We had a lovely time.

Mrs. Mitchell and Courtney, had a great, we got to... After a record, our guest is mad that it didn't happen with him. It was really kind of you to invite me.

We had a great time as that quartet. We were hanging out. We were having some beverages. We were sharing some plates. We went to Broken Spanish. My mom, Drunkenly got us to, yeah, the Broken Spanish Commodore, which is in Culver City.

Right. My mom drunkenly got us to take a picture with celebrity chef. Ray Garcia. Yeah, so here's what, Ray Garcia of Broken Spanish and BS Takaria. She really wanted a picture. Yes. And I could tell she was going to go rogue and just go like ask the guy. So I was like, I'll take control the situation.

I went up to him and I was. She was drunk. Yeah, she was perhaps a little tipsy. She was having fun. We're all having fun. She was tipsy. also a little he's acting a little

she was acting a little uh time for a home type uh she had some takes she was she was she was she she's usually not that uh I was having a great time.

Yeah not me. She came out for Valentine's Day my mom and sister. Yeah. I asked her be my Valentine's she said no. That's tough. But yes. I think she is.

I think you know. I think those days are, I think she's becoming, I'm worried she's becoming a bit of an insol. You're worried your mom's becoming an in-cell? It's not like you said insol, like the thing you put in your sneakers. I'm worried. Also, she can be, she can be a mom-sell. Did you say mom-sell? Yeah, she's mom-sell.

She's an amazing woman in person. Wonderful woman. She did a great job. We had a great time. They were talking about the time that we went out to, our guests, came out to dinner with us and he and he ordered a lot of food. Oh, yeah. For the table.

And my dad got like secretly angry. Well, that's because. And then he died shortly after. I didn't want to. Well, before you said that, I was just trying to show him up. Show my father up? Well, it's called flirting. So I went to Ray Garcia and I asked him for a picture.

He was definitely annoyed. And he was like in the, he was working. But I was like, but so like, we were waiting like five minutes while he was like fulfilling. And then eventually comes out and is like, all right, let's take this picture. And you had the smart move of saying, like, sorry, mom wanted it. Yes. And then that kind of brightened him.

He was like, oh, well, if mom wants it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had a picture with the dough boys, Ray Garcia and your lovely mother. And then we said, hey, we used to be big fans of Broken Spanish. She just kind of stared. But BS Talkeria is his closed restaurant. Yeah, we have. We were fans of BS Talker.

I was like, it's my favorite restaurant. I kind of just stared at us. Yeah, blankly. Yeah. Like, like, that restaurant's closed. This is my restaurant now. Yeah. Why are we going through old shit?

That's what it kind of felt like. But also, I think he was just so thrown by the interaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, she's gone now. She's gone now, but we had a great time. We did have a great time. And, you know, we're going to have a great time today, too. We're going to have a great time today.

We already are. And we're going to have a great time with some upcoming live shows. We will be in Omaha, March 18th and Des Moines, March 19th. That's right, we're going to Nebraska and Iowa for the very first time. The doughboys are going to be in the Midwest. Alexander Payne. It's Nebraska. Home of Alexander Payne, very much related today.

And also a cast member from the Napa Boys is going to be our guest, Iowa's own Paul Rust, joining us for a Midwest swing. So that'll be a lot of fun. Omaha March 18th, Des Moines March 19th, tickets at birdfuck.com slash live. Our guest has an odules. Can't. One of our guests has an odules, a non-alcoholic beer. You've never had one before. No, I can't open.

I think it needs an opener. It's not a twist off. We can get that resolve. I don't. I just, you don't have to. And now back to the... All right, back to the show. We have a lot of show today, and we need to get into it, but we do have one thing up top

before we get to the proceedings. Our headgum intern Ryan is here, and he's assured us he does not have Tourette's. So he's going to be coming in, and he is going to be giving us a gift. So, Ryan, thanks so much for coming. I know Gemmy's kind of in your spot right now. Jammy, come here, baby. Yeah, yeah, come here, Jamie. Sorry, girl.

She's a good girl. There's your mic there, Ryan. Hey, Ryan, thank you so much for being here. You are, first off, you're a film student at LMU. I've seen your short small cowboy, which people can watch online. What's the URL? What the fuck is going on here? Amelia just opened our guest O'Don.

It's at the YouTube channel, Cool Ryan Films. So if you go to Cool Ryan Films, You can watch small cowboy. It stars my dad. Wow. And it's about a guy getting chased around by like a three-foot-tall cowboy. Wow. It's a lot of fun.

So you're an LMEU film student. You are 20, correct? Yeah. And you've been listening to Doe Boys for how long? Six years. Six years. Wow. So started in high school.

Yeah. How about that? Team. Yeah. I learned what cum was through Doe Boys. Hell yeah, dude. I wasn't scared. it all when it happened because you guys told me about it before.

All right, what gift do you have you brought us, Ryan? Okay, so this, I have a card that I drew you guys. Oh my God, it's beautiful. Do you want me to read it? Sure, yeah, yeah. Dear doughboys, thanks for all the laughs. Ryan, the burger ran away with the spoon, alt, and the Nick ran away with the spoon. Yeah, because then I was like, Nick kind of sounds more like dish.

But I drew you as a burger. And then afterwards, I was like, all right, Nick ran away with the spoon. kind of terrifying I'm terrifying body horror yeah kind of our faces superimposed on a on a cheeseburger

and a stew that's what inspired Judy still oh it's Judy it's that was Judy Still who wrote that no no no no that's just the singer

Did people know who wrote Jimmy what he said right I just was talking I think those are kind of just like folklore That's just Okay then I have my actual gift here These are red trays I stole from in and out. Wow!

I've been getting into that recently. I told Wager about this and the Get Played gang. But I have like 10 in my car right now, so I can bring more for you guys. I can bring them for everybody. I've just been like stuffing them in my backpack. So you are confessing to petty theft to an audience of tens of thousands. All right, bring them in, boys. This one, these ones were part of my last heist, which was actually quite an ordeal.

I almost got cop by the security guard and my heart was pounding, but it was okay. Be careful. Just be careful. You've got a promising career ahead of you. Yeah, stop, stop, stop. Or you can keep doing it. Is it illegal? Well, I think, yes, stealing is illegal. But kind of just, in the Old West,

we used to love sort of outlaws and stories like that. So maybe... It's a great point. Keep gone. Kind of a modern day Robin Hood, stealing from a billion dollar corporation. Yes, well, because I've given so much money to them, but they're kind of evil.

I was going to write John 316 on the, bottom but I didn't want to mess with the infrastructure. This is very kind. This is very kind, right? Thank you so much. Be careful out there. I hope you enjoy it. Yeah, I'm a good thief, so it's okay.

And thanks for your help with everything here at Edgum. Yeah, of course. I just have somebody working here. Have you ever seen the movie thief? I'm alone. Michael Mann, yeah. Michael Mann, yes. Yeah, that's me.

They call me Khan Jr. at James Con Jr. at L.MU. He actually stole these because he was tired of vacuuming up. your crumbs. This is like, he's like please. Yeah, put him in the tray. Ryan, you're as strange as a 14-year-old doughboy fan would be. You should see small cowboy. Oh, I can't wait to see it.

Shout out the URL one more time. Yeah, the channel. Yeah, just cool. The YouTube channel is called Cool Ryan Films on YouTube. I'll put it in the episode description too. Oh, okay. Thank you. Yeah. Cool Ryan films. Awesome. Ryan the future cinema. Thank you so much. Yeah. Future cinema first, but we'll see.

Thank you, Ryan. This rule. Wow. Thank you, Ryan. The future of cinema. Today we have the present of the ghosts of cinema present. It's true. We'll get into it. The Ghost of Cinema Future with Ryan, the Ghost of Cinema Present. He's so happy, so full of hopes and dreams and life.

It's true. Isn't that nice? L.MU. What is that school? Loyola, Merrimount University. The alma mater of friend of the pod, Scott Gerdner from podcast, Rye. Wow. Yeah, how about that? Where is it?

It's on the west side of it. L.A. Okay, it's L.A. I knew that. Yeah. We have to tell the interns here while he's in school. Yes. Wow.

Oh, my God. We get it. I mean, first of all, oh, Emma hit with the drop. I know. Hit him with a drop, Emma. We got to introduce our guests. What is your road eating routine? We eat a lot of sardines and, like, canned beans and shit.

Here on the road, you know, microwave rice, Costco's dog shit. Here on the road, then. Sumo oranges. I'm a pre-made shit. I'm fillet and a baked potato. Here on the road, you know, burgers. Wings, fucked up Uber eats, the road. The backros are good, bro.

Wow, that's the drop for today. That was, it sounded like Starvros, was it not? It was. Wow. We love Starvros. This email's so long. What the fuck is going on here? Howdy-ho, Doe Crew.

Is that it? Yes. Howdy-ho, Doe Crew, this Valentine's Day drop comes from Jonathan and Megan from Kentucky. We decided to make a lasagna for a nice dinner at home together. With all that downtime involved, we've figured why not do the most romantic thing of all make a drop for our shared favorite podcast. Wow, that's nice. Wow. How about that? I was glad to see some people had at Valentine's. That's pretty nice. They did send this email on February 15th at 1 a.m. So it literally

was still Valentine's Day night when they sent this. Wow. That's cute. That's what they did at 1 a.m. on Valentine's night. Then they fucked. See, that's what I was hoping for. Probably it was probably was probably after. I had to send the email first. Yeah, yeah. Let us know. Right back in and let us know when you fucked. This came to mind as we're seeing, this came to mind as we're seeing 2025 Doe Boys Rookie of the Year. Stavros,

Halkey is tomorrow night in Lexington. Wow. Hell yeah, enjoy the show. That's going to be a fun one. Lexington, Kentucky, another territory we've never been to. Maybe we will venture out there at some point. Drops at birdfuck.com. Hope the crew and Stab all enjoy delicious trash meals on the row this year. Dropping in a pick of the

lasagna here, by the way, if you ever want to make it within a few hours. of Kentucky will bring one to the show for you. Wow, Jonathan and Megan. It looks fucking great. That is a good looking lasagna. Emma is holding it up for us here. We'll put it on the YouTube feed. What's bird? Fuck.

That's our website. It's our URL. You've been gone a while, dude. I just seems naughty. You've been gone a while and one of our guests has never been here, but we're very, very excited to have them. The Stars and Writers Director of the Napa Boys in theaters now, Nick Karassey and Armin Wightsman. Nick Armin,

thank you both so much for being here. Congratulations on Napa Boys. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. We are just, we, yeah, thank God. I'm happy to be here. I've heard about the show through a friend of mine, and I don't really listen to podcasts, but this is all new to me.

I'm happy to, you know, be on the show for the first time. It's understandable. You're director. I'm sure you're busy with the- Right. Well, director has this director hat and I wanted to give you just a special hat that I made it because I researched on Google that your nickname was Spoon Man. So I just made this hat for you. That's so kind. Very nice looking. Custom embroidered hat. It looks very, says the Spoon Man on it. Yeah. To me, but it. No, I just made that hat.

Oh, wow. Yeah, I feel like I've maybe seen that before. But yeah, it is. Okay, got it. Well, well, thank you. That's very nice. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Nick. Of course. And this is what you guys do all the time. You guys do this show, and it starts the way that it all started just now. Yeah, generally. And that's how these things go.

Right. There's a little bit of banter. There's a roast. And now is this room only your, this is where you guys, only you guys do. This is the Doe Boys room. No, this is, this is Studio G. So there's all Studio H we mostly record in, but we, because we have two guests today. We're in here at the bigger studio.

And they, the other shows do these studios. Other shows will filter through here. And then you're filming it and other people are in the same studios. Yes. And how many people are doing this? So the effect is that every headgum podcast looks the same. Yeah. Is that depressing?

Yeah. That kind of equivalency that you guys are just. I like as a director, though. You're getting into the nitty gritty. Yeah. I'm just trying to think through that. Like, I'd imagine that equivalency would become depressing that you're just going, oh, I'm part of this thing that just there's everyone seemingly is.

the same and you just keep going. It would be nice to have our own studio with our own identity. But it's like Wayne's World, like, you guys started off, but now you have a sort of a corporate. That is true. It is a lot like Wayne's World, you're not wrong. It is a lot like Wayne's World. Things went Haywire and we got

Rob Lowe in the picture. I hope we never meet Christopher Walking. Oh, man. I hope I do. Yeah, but I mean, it seems like it goes sideways. Did you all like that dude? That dune, the DV dune? A little walking in that.

Walkin is the emperor. Emperor Shadam. I'm not, I, we're here to represent a film called Napa Boys that we made. And I would say Napa Boys and Mitch is great in it. Obviously, we're in it. Thank you. And it's accidentally and intentionally a comedy masterpiece, maybe one of the finest comedies of all time,

funnier than a lot of movies that have come out in a while. not to get into specifics. No, it's a lot funnier. And everyone should see the Napa Boys because it is funnier than all those other movies that have come out. I might as well add it also sort of made pure of heart more than most other films that have come out in the last 20 years as well. And sort of from our hearts and our souls of why we love movies,

and it's not sort of a troll. What's up with the snowsuit you guys? on here. Armand for our audio listeners, Armand is kind of in Kool-Aid man cosplay, a red snow suit. There's a blizzard back east today.

Yeah, I think it's just people need to, you know, whatever makes them comfortable. I wouldn't, this is not something we need to talk about this. You look great. You look good. I don't think that it's, I wasn't trying to make you feel uncomfortable.

We're also, we're also both wearing vans over here. Yours are much more stylish than mine. Mine are kind of generic. You know, I'm also, it's not my Well, I'm going to be honest. I don't, it's kind of weird that there are these color, but I think it's just, again, it's not about looks,

and it's comedy's about looking like a piece of clown. Yeah, sure. I would describe, I would describe Armin and myself as the two, the evil halves of us combined form Nick Reiner. Like when you take those pictures, where they do the symmetrical face and then they combine them and it's evil when you double them.

If you did that for both of us and then combine them... Hey, don't... But I'm happy that it's split so that there's no... Exactly. You could also say that we're sort of the good... Well, that's all that's left.

The good... The good halves become form of Rob. Or like in twins, yeah, we're the Arnold Schwarzenegger of twins and he's the Danny DeVito. Is Danny DeVito a bad guy? Yeah. He got the bad jeans. Oh.

Yeah, but. So anyway, that's how I describe ourselves to people when I first meet them. And never mind. Actually, I just decided to edit that out myself. I mean, my next sentence, sorry, not that that was in. Here's a question, because I know this about the production of Napa Boys. A lot of it lined up with the unfortunate L.A. wildfires of last year. Correct.

How did that impact production? What were you doing? The sky is filled with billowy smoke. I can answer to this. I think Armand kept saying the show must go on while the windstorm was happening. Yes. And I actually agreed with you that day. We thought, yeah, like King Kong, the guy who filmed King Kong.

Yes. Jack Black's character. I'll also say that all great films have a disaster that happens during them. Apocalypse Now, Star Wars. So in the theme of that, it was actually sort of, yes, a right of passage, vindicating that this, of course, would happen. So it happened right in the middle of the shoot. We ended up shooting the movie in basically nine days. But it sort of galvanized everyone and it kind of became the stamp that this is a truly great film that we've made.

It's good to find the silver lining in the L.A. fires, I feel like. I feel like that's a good thing to figure out. Now, of course, I set the fires. It's kidding, of course. And some things burnt to a crisp. Yes. It is true a lot. And yet, it's funny now looking back if you think about it.

I mean, I don't know if I'd go that far. Yeah. No, no, I just mean I forget. It was a time where art mattered more than material possessions for me personally as well as everyone else who's, yeah. Armand's mother's house burned down during the fires, just to be clear. Just so everyone knows that his mom's house burnt down. But again, it is, at some point that is funny. In the future, it is part of the lore of the film, as I told her many times.

Everything is fun. If you give it enough time, everything is, well, you know, everything. Tragedy plus time equals comedy, as they say. Nick, that's exactly. Well, in that certain way, I'm sure your mother is also happy that, you know, the movie was made instead of a Nick Reiner's scenario. You know, what's crazy? I earlier, you guys laughing. I almost said that earlier and I edited it out.

So that's what I told it. And it's true because that would have been. We're all happy that there's no worst. It's got to be worst case for a parent, right? Every Brentwood, every Brentwood Hollywood person that day opened the door to their 20-something-year-old kids out bedroom and just stared at them. It really, yeah, closed the door. And I did have you and your mother over for my Christmas party, so I'm glad that nothing, you know,

it would have been tough for me as well. Nobody told me that they were in a private conversation. You're shooting this movie in nine days. You're shooting in L.A., which is great. There's so little production, and it's so rare for a film to be shot. At that time, we were the only one being shot in L.A. Which is awesome. And it's so great that you all did that in terms of employing local cast and crew.

did you let's we're a food podcast what were the onset eats during this stretch that's what you do on this so we do all right um the breakfast the breakfast yeah there's some good breakfast mcgonald's breakfast oh nice yeah then um mendicino farms is that right no yes there was actually you're wrong paltley there was chippotle there was chippotle we do we have we've done yeah poloile about seven or eight times yeah i guess actually was actually was actually on the turn of it one year. The food is like a means to, like it's an arbitrary means to a conversation.

Is that sort of the vibe of the show? I guess you could say that. Yeah, you have a good breakdown of this. That is, well, I'm just learning as I go sort of what this is. Well, this is much madness.

Oh, this is much madness. We'll get into that in a bit. Okay. Right now we're talking Napo Boys. Oh, yeah. No, you have to eat,

we call it sort of like lunch. And that's for the crew and for people, because some people, they need to feel like they're, eating otherwise they're like take five that's just sort of right take five means like in hollywood talk five minutes uh the point 10 one is i have to pee on set but 102 rarely said but i always make a point to say it on set when i have to 102 i like that that's a good honesty i think that's great just to know that it's a little bit more time and just put it in their head what's going on yes yeah

I was also going to ask you because as a director, that was a thing that would always give me anxiety is bathroom breaks. And I could not imagine directing a movie like something of that scale, something of that scope. Like, you know, everything's got to grind to a hall. Well, maybe sometimes you say a 10-2 you don't even need to do a 10-2. Oh, wow. You just give yourself that extra time. Yeah, you can go, yeah, you can swipe. Yeah, you can get it.

These are just the tricks of the trade. Go do a little 10-3. Yeah. That's jacking off. Checking off. Yeah, 10-3 is jacking off. It's not commonly set on set. And I just don't want this to turn too crass.

Yeah, of course. I'm not the kind of crass person. Yeah, this is not funny. I don't know. I've seen the movie. It's beautiful in many ways. Yeah, I would say, yeah, it's kind of being pigeon. Is that this like pigeon held as sort of something that it's not.

And it actually maybe, it just, there's a lot more layers. Well, I'll say this. Similar to George Lucas, he took. a disrespected genre of radio serials and things that are just kind of disposable radio serials. He elevated it into Star Wars by incorporating Kurosawa, John Ford, and it became elevated. We similarly started with a disrespected genre of like direct to video American Pie presents, beta houses, and then elevated that into something in alchemy that's greater than the sum of its parts and in a great irony Disney Star Wars in my opinion has unalchemized it back into

disposable cereals they've turned the gold back into shit in a beautiful way in front of our eyes that we can only hope that would never happen to the Napa boys franchise of which we've already written the six movies out in total oh wow yes yeah but who knows how that mando and grogoo are going to turn things around you never know if man do Mando and Grogu. You'll be singing a different tune after Mandalorian and Grogu. Yeah, you might be singing a different tune after Mandalorian and Grogu. What is your thoughts on that, Nick?

I don't think so. I will say that our teaser has been playing after the Mandolian Grogu. Yes. What a double feature. Yes. At the Americana, they've been playing it right after. I was with Nick last night. We went and saw the trailer at the Americana.

We saw Armand, maybe you don't know this, but we went and saw a couple of the we went and saw a couple of the trailers. Did you watch a movie as well or you see the trailers? We walked out of both movies. I bought a ticket to Good Luck, Don't Die. And I just didn't have, it was a busy night. So I was interested in seeing it, but we went and we watched the trailer. And then we went into Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie, and we watched the trailer.

And then I had already seen it. Right. What did you think about it? Well, the movie, I had a fun time at Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie. Yeah, we both said the dope boys had fun. We had a good time. That's awesome. Yeah.

I think I'll say this, it's like, as like an appetizer for Napa Boys because you got like a indie comedies back. A nappetizer, as you will, if you will. Indie comedies are kind of back right now. And it's great that people are going out to see them. You're right. Yes. Of course. But also, this is, calling it a comedy feels a little crass as well.

I think this is sort of something. It's just Napa boys are saying Yeah once in a generation thing And also we're bringing everyone with us You know Everyone shines And it's a you know

We want the movement to continue We're all sort of artists join us There's no glory for us There's only the love of actually We used to love them You're the stars of this film We used to love what? What are you showing us?

I'm sorry. Well, I started this movie And obviously we all look back to the future. We do love Back to the Future. I love it so much. Yeah, in fact, now that's the end. There are some references. I don't know if everyone caught these to Back to the Future,

Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie. It kind of just peppered in there a little bit. Oh, shit. I had no idea. I didn't realize that. Give it another watch. Look for that. You knew.

You knew. Yeah, no, I knew. I knew. I knew. I saw all of them. No, we're from us probably the same. generation. We all love. You talked about you're both the stars of this movie

but you have a great supporting cast including our own Mike Mitchell, the Spoon Man. Hey, hey, what can I say? He's a crowd favorite. Truly, truly. I'd say yeah, there's a lot of crowd favorites. I mean, he's the most of them. I hadn't seen Armin a very long time.

Nick I'd seen Nick Moore. I'd seen Armin in a very long time and then this movie started. Well, that's even better, you see. That's a Hollywood that's better than friendship. There was a combination of, I remember a couple years ago you were talking, you said, we're going to start

being, we're friends again, we're going to be good friends again, and then I didn't hear from you for two weeks, I got a call. Oh, yes. I answered the phone and I said, well, well, well, you're calling again. It was your mother, you were dying. This is the truth. Your mom called me, said you were about to die. Can I talk about this on the air?

Well, I think that you can, but of course, in the humorous sense, you see, I didn't and now I brought I got my a hunk of my own who's that me uh yeah and we made this movie

um it was a long as I'm saying this this was a long journey because that even back then great Gatsby yes yes I am I did this all for somebody to sort of notice me and she knows who she is she's listening your mother no no it's a

no this She's not listening. Your illness, which you are, I thankfully, mostly on the other side, have predated the production of this movie. This was the thing you were dealing with first. Classically tried to stop us. It was another that part of the lore at this point that when the rebels of the back lot, celluloid bullets and blood and octane book is written, that would certainly be a chapter. And, you know, you could go into a thing with people that you know, shoot.

for nine days and nothing ever happens, but this kind of kept going and the spirit kind of kept rolling. And then of course it went to Tiff was picked up by Magnolia. It's going to be in theaters or is in theaters right now or VOD on 420 for the weed smokers out there. So it's getting a lot of buzz, buzz.

And I think that this is a movie that all of you should buy tickets for. Sort of like a funny sound of freedom. You should buy tickets. It is a song of, It's, well, a funnier sound of freedom. Right. A funnier sound of freedom where, you know, you should buy tickets for your friends.

This is a movie that you should enjoy in the theater with people around you laughing. And it's also meant to be watched again. And again, we actually just did the DVD commentary. A DVD and Blu-ray will hit Barnes & Noble bookshelves soon with a 10-minute long deleted scene that was shot. specifically to be a deleted scene in the extended extended, extended, unrated, uncorked edition of Napa Boys on DVD. Wow. It is true.

And also I don't mean to add on, but of course, this also is a movement of the people. And like Northern Rings, we slipped this through the system when everyone was looking the other way at whatever civil wars are going on. And we sort of, I mean, of Middle Earth. And we, I just meant this is also, we talk a big talk. but also we are we want the support of the true fans of cinema right there was a well as the regular fun people there was a very thin small crack and something you know akin to like a simulation or something a very small thin hole and crack of which we threw this like luke just right through the death start right through

that simulation's crack and it went past everyone uh and and uh is now been laundered into reality um i live at Americana happened to live there. Well, I don't know if you will. Okay. You can say it. And now there's a standee for the well, a lot of people but the Napa Boys has a standee at the AMC

Americana. Caruso's Americana Caruso, who obviously if he was mayor, the fires probably wouldn't have happened. Well, they had the special goo that they sprayed. Yes, that saved his Pacific Palisades. He would have done what he would have done

for his private properties for the city. We would have had the Crusoe goo throughout California. He could have saved us. He could have privatized firefighters he brought in from Arizona could have been deployed citywide. He would have, in theory, turned the fire department into a quality of the quality of. Right, right. But then Napa Boys maybe doesn't happen or is different. I will say that everyone got poison oak and you and Sarah, who's excellent.

the film and Armand, his face was exploded, but he got poison open with a huge situation. A giant hitched scenario that inflated during the time that the fires was happening, we wouldn't have been able to shoot

and deflated by the time we were able to shoot. So in any, and he's in almost every scene, so in any regard, if the fires didn't, it actually in some way was also needed to happen for we would have had to stop shooting anyway because of the...

Well, it's not for vanity, of course. That would have been in the book as well. It's for positivity. It's always a delicate... I really did look bad. It's always a delicate dance with the elements, I'd say. It really is. No, no, this is different.

We got burned. Yeah, yes. Well, we got, we also got poison oak. We were shooting a scene and we got terrible poison oak. Are you crying? Yeah. You doing all right, buddy? Oh, yeah.

It was joy. It's just hearing this sort of said out loud. It is. It's really real. It reminds me that I haven't felt joy because I've been so trying to be like the Mamba mentality and like the Daniel Plainview. Just finish this movie and then I'll have a family. You kept saying this a lot of the time that I'll be, you know. Yeah, but you know.

And you did have it. You had a, you went through a lot. You had a cane, much like Willie Wonka at one point. It's nothing. And that, I mean, just saying you've been through a lot. It's a, no. It is a Lord of the Rings style thing that happened, been behind the scenes, but is mirrored on the screen because Napa Boys is a great adventure.

Those things lining up, it's really, it is quite surreal and unreal that it all happened. We're happy for both of you. Yes. Thank you. But it was a long road to, uh... Thank you, brother. Wow. And thank you guys.

Of course. And speaking of the cast, last week we had. on the great Vanessa Chester. Amazing from Lost World. Yes. Vanessa. Yep. She is also a fan favorite, a crowd favorite, and a scene that brings the house

down every single time. In Tiff, there's a very specific earlier scene famously, not unlike a Lars Rontrear Antichrist or Brown Bunny, Vincent Gallo, that people in a, in a rejected in a way of making a protest stood up. and left the theater. For those of everyone that stays and all of the people in all of these screenings, Vanessa specifically and everyone here, but Vanessa's scene just completely rips down the house. It is maybe an all-time classic movie scene.

We should add her back again today. Multiple scenes, of course. And also every character is so in a different movie, everyone would have been their own scene stealing favorite. and this has everyone, I guess besides us, that are scene stealer favorites. Nick as Nick has not seen the movie. I have not, still have not seen it. I will have seen it by the tennis episode is out.

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Do it. All right. Now we're going to get into the nitty-gritty, dude. It is a food podcast, remember, Nick? That's right. All right. Are you guys, do you like, are you guys fans of wine, actually? I don't, can we.

Are you drinking any fucking Merlo? The characters of Miles Jr. and Jack Jr., famously hate Merlot. Yeah. Right. That tracks. Certainly when, at least when the film starts. And definitely.

Now, you're drinking in Odules, which you're. you've never had before. Yeah. I'm not really sure I could argue. There's no statement being made. I just thought, let's try it. I also think anyone who's struggling and done that the right way, O'Dul's or whoever, John Mullaney's got a new one, a new O'Dul's, right?

And he's a super fan of the film. And so we just want to give a shout out to that particular beverage. They're talking about a bunch, but the athletic brewing company ones I like quite a bit, any beers go. But yeah, I don't know what Mulaney's brand is. Can we look that up? I can be honest, I think this is the first time you've drank a non-alcoholic beer is my guess. A hundred percent. That's correct. Now, is the way that you market non-alcoholic beers is that it's supposed to, when you order it or picked up the shelf, there's kind of a dance of it not trying, not looking too much like a non-alcoholic. Sort of the same way that testosterone pills are

backhandedly telling you that they make your dick hard or something. But it's actually about staying like you know staying you know healthy or whatever is that a that dance is real that's how they sell these things very much so i mean and like the that also allows them so for hynickin zero for instance hynican zero sponsors a lot of f1 events and because there are those are held in a Muslim countries where alcohol is banned but they can market a non-alcoholic beverage there and then market the heineken brand at large so yeah i think that does happen is alcohol out in Riyadh or no? Did you drink it when you did the

standard? Sometimes I could be funny too. It's called what? It's called Years beer. Years beer. Years beer is the Malini brand. Okay. Armin is writing that down on his hand

with his other hand. Also though, just for full disclosure, I do drink alcohol, the regular kinds as well. Yes. And we do, we do enjoy ourselves a glass of wine. That's what I want to get to the bottom. No, no, is there

N.A. wine or no? There is, and it's bad. It's called grape juice. They've never figured out. Pretty good. Hey, he can be funny, too. Is the... Get an emotional again. Wait, we,

here's a wine question. Very simple. We don't get into specific varietals. You can't if you want. Red or white? Can't make a choice? So, who else does podcasts here? It's Kyle does a podcast here. Yeah, Beck and Kyle a podcast here? Can you guys share the same room?

Well, they're very often in here, but their format has them bouncing between studios. Is there any competition between, so you're all in the same room that obviously you're going to compare yourselves. It's a bunch of white men and I'm sure it's all very similar. Do you guys ever, is there a competition? Are you guys looking at numbers? Do you think, oh, are they getting bigger numbers than me? Is there a behind the scenes narrative here? Just thinking in these terms.

Very competitive, is that true? No, I don't think we've ever looked at numbers ever. Yeah, but is that because you assume that you're on top? I do not assume we're on top. I would not be on top. That's a great question. At headgum? Yes.

I don't know. Who's number one here? It might be us. I think it's, it might be. Oh, it's now. Yeah. And then a show is number two. It used to be number one.

I don't know that they're on the network. Are you trying to get to what number we are? because, well, we can't, do you go ahead. What number? This is also a trade secret. We don't have to disclose this in the podcast. Oh, should we bleep these? Yeah, probably.

Probably. Well, bleep them, but could you tell me what the rankings are? I think, do you want to, I think we're like three or four. It's pretty good. That's pretty good. Hey, are you happy, Nick? Well, I could see that you guys assume you're kind of in the top heap. Very much so.

You're in the top heap, so there's no, you know, but I'm imagining and how many podcasts in total are there. I don't know if I like top heap, but yeah, I guess. How many podcasts in total are done here? We're one of the podcasts that's helped. I feel like had gum grow. How many, how many podcasts in total are there? I'm honestly not sure. 20. So if you're in the top three. Yeah, there were a bunch. So then there's about 15 other podcasts probably looking at your numbers. Chris Rock had a top five. So I feel like making the top five is pretty good. Yeah, you're right. If Chris Rock's character is making a list of top five podcast the movie you might say dough boys.

The headgum, maybe we would be there. But I don't, you know, I'm not, I'm not very proud of, you know, I'm not. Yeah, we don't care. We're not competing against it. You're in the top heap, you know, we're just big boys. We're just worried about ourselves. Well, thank you for letting us on to your show, being that you guys are in the top heap and all, and you're beating all those other ones.

We're thrilled to have you on the show. We're not beating. We're not beating anybody. You're beating them and, you know, they're like, you know, who listens. Yeah. I think a lot of people listen to more than one podcast is a thing. So you're not really directly competing with any work. Friends with some people outside of work,

so maybe bringing this up is building competition. Maybe, no, not for us. I don't think so. I mean, maybe that's what Nick is trying to do here. His point by saying not for you. Now, I've got to say this podcasting is a big part of the movie, and there is actually a nod to the Doe Boys podcast in the movie, spoiler.

Can I say that? You considered a spoiler? Well, for the eagle-eyed viewer, there might be a reference. For the eagle-eyed viewer, there might be a reference. That's all. Yeah, maybe similar to some of these, what do we call them,

avatars? Yes, to our avatars. Our cartoon likenesses and our logo. Imagine if that's what we got, if we avatared into a body, we got into those guys. I wouldn't want to be cartoon wiger.

Would you want to be cartoon, Mitch? I mean, depends on what level of stuff I could do. That's my number one dream. Your arms are so stubby. You can't even like reach your hog. Yeah, I guess that is. How do you wipe your ass?

Well, you don't have to because you're cartoon. You're a cartoon. That's a good point. That's true. Everything you eat is just there's no going to the hospital. I do wonder if Roger Rabbit a avatared into his body, a reverse avatar. Into Armin? I'd explain some things.

Everyone would be nicer to me. You know, we had a lovely time with Vanessa Chester, and I will say I'd never met her before. Great actress was familiar with her work. After talking with her, it made sense she was in the Napa Boys. Wait. She's great She's quirky Yeah I mean I think she just would be

It's on the same page comedically with your sensibility You're kind of a quirky dude Yeah you're kind of a quirky dude You're doing alright? I would say so, yeah you're quirky I characterize you as eccentric You're wearing a snowsuit Yeah

But I just wouldn't characterize Vanessa as such I'm not saying no I'm not saying I mean I feel like playing You know leaning into a big A big flashy outfit or like disguise or like a theme character is a little much, but I think he rides and toes that line pretty well. Yeah.

Well, if you stay normal, the rest, an outfit can be. You mentioned the Americana. In addition to a standee, the wine wagon is there as of this recording, correct? Yep, yep. Nick took my picture driving it last night. Yeah. Americana has it. It's true.

And it's really, it's really, it's there. Anyone can take a picture. This is a real movie. I just want us to understand this is real. We know it's a real movie. It's in theaters. People are seeing it. But I mean like, I don't know, some of these people.

It's real. It's beautiful. It was very emotional for me seeing. I mean, I brought up all these things that happened to you because it was, you're my friend, and it made me very emotional seeing you live, you know, have your dream come true, both of you. Friends or not, this, if you had just seen this. No, I would have loved it no matter what. Because I think there's a little.

But you went through quite a lot. I mean, you're. all of the stuff that you've been through in the last seven years was a lot and I was very happy for my friend when I Well last time yeah you weren't here This fancy studio That's true we were recording in Mitch's apartment

Lots change Yeah lots change And we were at the Americana where the standee is And the Americana has their own ice Caruso has their own ice at the Americana They make sure that people that aren't really shopping You know just loiterers You know they

they come in and and so after we avoided them we took a lot of pictures. I don't know if it's great to call like an Americana ice. I think that they are. They have their own little special version of it. Yeah, they do have, they have security guards, I guess you could say. Yeah, the ice of the Americana.

We were, many years ago, funny or die where we both worked and we both overlap for a time, Danny Jelinek at the front of the pod, and I were shooting a video at the Grove and got

thrown out of the grove by their ice. By the grove ice. But Grove ice, it was funny because, like, it was like, what the fuck was that? Access Hollywood used to shoot there, right? So we, like, video bomb. Mario Lopez. So we, like, video bombed Access Hollywood. And then once we got that shot, they were like, get the, like, they didn't, we went rogue.

And they got, um, they got mad and so they got, uh, and their crew was so mad. But then the ice from the, the grove was just like, we're sorry about this. Thank you for coming to the grove. Please continue shopping at the grove. Oh. So, like, clearly they had. a thing of their nice ice. They were nice ice. It sounds like they're nice ice. They were nice ice, but like they were

clearly like the crew had been giving them problems and they had to accommodate them. That was a weird thing that they shot the fucking access Hollywood at the grove. That's very strange. Very strange. Well, they also shot it at Citywalk. Oh, they did. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Um, right. Um, fuck all ice. Fuck all ice. Fuck all ice. In fact, Mitch, we're not having ice in drinks For in solidarity What are you talking?

What? No ice in beverages I don't want warm drinks. What the fuck? Warm drinks only for the doughboys. That's his protest. Yeah. Put them in the fridge.

Put them in the fridge. All right. All right, fine. All right, fine. I won't have any fucking, I won't drink. I won't have ice. I won't have any ice. Even McDonald's, well, we went to a place that has really good ice.

They do have great ice at McDonald's. All right. Forget it. We just use ice. Yeah, you know what? It's fine. It's a, it was a thought. The thoughts would count.

Yeah. You're quite the rabble-rouser, you? No, no, no, no. Oh, all right, never mind. Yeah. This is the wine wagon. It's the picture car. This is the one that's from the movie.

Yes. Yeah, and you can go down there and you can go in the front seat. You know, it's the holes kind of like, you know, in movies. And then they have a standee, so you can take a picture. He took, well, you guys can post it on your site of him. Burrfuck.com. Yeah, it looks like he's driving the wine. It's a classic thing. You want to see the car, you know, Delorean, the Batmobile.

But sometimes... Sometimes you go to a car show and they have the Delorean of the Batmobile, but it's like, was this one in the movie? It's like, no, this is one of the duplicates or there's a replica. Do you remember when the Batmobile lost its wheel and the Joker got away? Yeah, that was a sad day for everyone. Now, I heard... I heard that he took ballet. Oh. So, yes. It's probably just a, you know, a game of telephone. Yeah, games of telephone.

Now I know why you guys are number three. Hey, we were talking, that's a Christmas parody. You guys are a parody in many ways of a certain type of movie as well. It's true. A parody of, actually, I quit that sentence, too. Okay. One could say that. Do you need some mic help over there?

No, it's just part of the parody of, hey, you need some. Mitch's ring cam went off. What's going on? What we see? Yeah. What? This is not. Did this ever happen on set?

Is this uncouth? Mitch leaves his, that Mitch has a do not disturb except for his ring cam, which he gets notifications for and checks during the show. Did this ever go off during the shoot? No, he was very nice during the shoot. Do you have it? Did you have a video? You're not to believe this.

Yeah. It's the Joker. Oh my God. And he's in a tutu. So I was right. You're right. I got Joker fine. This does seem a little humor based.

That probably wasn't really the Joker. right? I'll be honest with you. Even though we do live in Hollywood, it was not the Joker on my phone. So I apologize to the listeners. Just yet for the audio. Yes, yes, yes. For the audio listeners, I apologize. It wasn't really the Joker. And we're not like, we don't like film bros either. Oh, you're saying Snyder bros. No, no, I don't know what I was saying. I just want to bring it back to the movie. Speaking of film bros, though, you did get a nice shot. shout out in the letterbox call sheet. The, the,

that had a nice little write-up of Napa boys. This is their newsletter. And then also that I, that I subscribed to. And also, there were some dope boys references in there. So how about that? Thank you to whoever writes that newsletter.

Yeah, we're bringing everyone with us. That's one of, yeah. You guys are going to be number two soon. Okay. Oh, wow.

We honor the dove boys in the, as you may have heard, spoiler, Eagle Eye, cartoon. You were one of our first, you were viewed with us In-N-Out burger, Armand.

That's right. Very early on. Very early on. When's the last time you had it? An Armine style is when you get animal style, where you add raw onions as well. Yeah, that was a different, those were different times. And then I heard that, yeah, I was banned, but glad to be back. You were actually, I don't believe you were banned.

I'm not sure if you were banned. Check that, fans on the Wikipedia, it says it. Were you shadow banned? What happened? How did you get banned? It says it. I've been sent three screenshots. Yes.

And I was sent, uh, wow, says, wow, formally banned. And I, but you're now back. The ban is over. The ban has been lifted, but wait, Mitch had this theory that maybe you asked to be banned, because that's the kind of arm and move you'd make. No, that's not. That would never, I would never, I don't think I would ever think my friends could ban me. I would never ban you.

Yeah, never. But now, I mean, I didn't hear from you for a good six years or so. That was, I mean, that was maybe. Part of the issue. They'll send the screenshots. There's no reason to. This is not a humor. This is not a humor part of the episode. And you guys reviewed in and out. We did, yes. And where we do, we're doing one of these today.

We're doing. Well, we're actually, it is a little different format. I know this is your first episode. Yeah. Which you seem very interested in the mechanics of, uh, of the podcast and where we rank and so on and so forth. But this is our munch. It's much madness. That's right. It's much mad again. Sorry, I interrupted. You want me to take that again?

Well, okay, Nick, normally we review food, but it's actually Munch Madness. That was a clean one, Emma. We can use that one. Because he just, he's obsessed to be number one. Oh, you want me to say that part again? No, no, I just meant that's sort of why I love working with him because I want to be number one, too. You are number one. It doesn't matter.

Your rankings don't matter. Where you rank in the podcast world or the regular world or the movie charts, that doesn't matter? Of course, the charts, but fans. You know, the people who love film, Wizard of All Certain things, they're in the tops. And that's where this will be. I think, yes, I agree. I think Napa Boys will rank number one as, you know, classic comedies of our time. Number one, beating other ones.

What are for... I could see the... I could see Napa Boys taking home a BAFTA next year. And you'll be in that crowd cheering him on. All right. Well, Nick. Oh, oh. Now that got me.

Nick. Well... It's an honor to be nominated, I guess, is what I'd say. Do you have... For the BAFTA? For anything. Here's a question for both of you. Notice when Paddington showed up just dead silence.

That's nothing to say to Paddington. Not a word to say to Paddington. Just sat in pure... Oh, let's be fair, Paddington kind of was palming up there. His jokes were like... Paddington comes up just... If you see a snake... Back away.

All right. I thought you would like something like that with Battington. Yeah, you think so. Here's a movie question and a food question. Do you have any favorite food movies or food scenes in movies? Just as film fans, just as film fans, just as filmmakers, as creators. I certainly think of the film Big Night. I mean, that's Stanley Tootie film.

Yeah, Stanley Tootie film. A lot of fun. Well, yeah, there's a lot of cooking in that one. Favorite food? Um, lembous bread. Okay. Is that Paddington bread? Oh, no, it's Lord of the Rings bread. I knew that.

I knew that. I, I'm getting emotional. Ghalm is quite, is a, you, uh, you, uh, he doesn't even like that bread, okay. Who, Ghalmum? Yeah, that's the whole thing. Oh, God. Paddington does like, does make marmalade. He does, you know, one of the first, one of my first acting roles was, um.

What? He didn't even shout in marmalade. He could have said that. All right. Nick, I'm going to ask you to be quiet for just a moment. When I was, one of my first roles was, I was, when we did a Paddington play in my school in the classroom and I was a, a marmalade salesman. And our marmalade fell on me. And I got covered in marmalade.

It was one of my first, one of my first roles ever. Sounds funny. And Pannington was, I didn't know that. He had like a play about him. Yes. And then I was a munchkin in the Wizard of Oz. I was a very big munchkin. that's cute

well you you weren't always when you were little no I was big in fifth grade I was big I was big I was big I was tall I was tall at least did they make a joke out of you being a big munchkin at all no they didn't really

you know they didn't recognize me into it yeah yeah there was nothing they didn't even you know I wasn't featured in any way speaking of munchkins are we going to get into the munch madness we should get into munch madness thank you so much yes thank you Nick thank you It is Munch Madness 11, the tournament of champions reheated rivalry.

And before we get into this edition. What the fuck were we get? What the fuck was I going to say? What the fuck was I going to say something? About being a munchkin? No, that's not what it was about. Was it food related? I don't know.

Food movie? Marmalade? You were in the bathtub? Bfta's. What was it? When were you going to say something? No, I didn't even bring up my dad. What are you talking about?

I was saying he's looking down. He's smiling. When were you going to say something? Do you remember when you were going to continue your thought? No, it doesn't matter. Let's just get to the fucking Munch Madness. If you remember it, just shout out at any time. Munch Madness 11, the tournament of champions, reheated rivalry.

Let's get right into it by introducing the commissioner of the tournament of champions, Evan Susser. Here he is walking in. Thank you, Jimmy Scott. Of course, yeah. Okay, Nick is going to duck out and use the restroom. Does that mean we get to pause? No. Okay.

I know. I think we can keep going. I think we can keep going. In fact, I think you could probably... Reminds me of Wainsville. I'm freaking out. I mean, I think we could probably just lock the studio door, honestly. The commissioner's here wearing a Reggie Dinkin's hat.

Very exciting. Congratulations on the show. I don't think, I didn't know what the show could have any more promotion already. And now here's a Reggie Dinkin's hat on top of it all. Got to get the word out. Monday's at 830. Hello. Hello, and welcome to the 11th annual tournament of champions, Munch Madness. I'm Commissioner Evan Susser, and I'm 41 years old now.

Wow. Anyway, this year it's reheated rivalry. Mitch versus Weiger. Things always get hot in the tournament, but this year, we're not just in the kitchen. We're in hell. Here are the rules for the tournament of champions. Number one, losers only choose your fighter. Mitch and Weiger each pick four pass tournament losers.

to enter the bracket. Number two, for whom the bell doesn't do? Wait, what was rule one? Sorry. Losers only choose your fighter. Mitch and Wiger each pick four past tournament losers to enter the bracket. So last year we did the tournament of tournament of champions right out all the past winners against each other. This year, you and I are picking losers. Things always get hot in the tournament, but this year we're not just in the kitchen.

We're in hell! You got that one? Yeah, I don't get it. Number two, for whom the bell doesn't do. Since a one mouth of the border, all of Taco Bell is disqualified. So even though we had the Dochiero Taco Bell side tournament. That's the question. Yeah.

Why is he doing a voice? Are you doing a voice? You don't do that every time? Number three, losers only. He's doing like this thing. He's doing a thing. I've never heard of Texas way. He's trying to be in Napa Boys 2.

To completely independently pick one main. guest episode guest during the tournament. I didn't hear a word you said. You kind of get the microphone pointed at your eyeball. You might want to crank that down a little bit. There you go. Losers only. I'm sure it's picking it up. Is this, which one are you on? Number three. You're on number three? I thought this is the same one I thought. Yeah, you're kind of repeating some of these.

Wait, go to the one after you're wearing hell. What was the one after we're in hell? Well, that was just the introduction, so that's back to one. Number one, losers only. Choose your biter Mitch and Wager each get to completely independently pick one main episode guest during the tournament Number four Since he previously won the Heart of the

Champion Award Armand Whitesman is not disqualified Wow He did win hard out of the team In our first tournament You won heart of the champion You were a tournament winner is what you're saying Winners are supposed to be disqualified

But not in your case So how about that? Number five Ty goes to the dinner Seems like he didn't really care or even register that. If a match ends in a tie. He's going on. I didn't want to interrupt.

A tie breaker is whichever chain, the commissioner, that's me, decides you could actually have a better dinner at. For instance, that would mean IHOP would beat Starbucks. Interesting. So you're saying, like, if, for instance, today, McDonald's ties in this particular tournament, you will decide which one wins. Based on which one you could have a better dinner. Which is the better dinner. Okay. Okay.

Okay, interesting. So it would be the better dinner between the two sandwiches? Yep. Okay, got it. Number six, you've got to dance with the one who brought you. If the restaurant qualified in a category-specific tournament, only items from that category can be considered in this tournament. Okay.

Got it. So, for instance, we had Wendy's one for, Wendy's just qualified one for chicken fight, but if we had another combatant from chicken fight, say KFC, they would only compete with chicken, not mashed potatoes and biscuits. That's correct. Got it. It's still scripted between the two.

of you. Number seven. Eden ain't cheating. Number eight. Mild card. Wait, what? What did you say? Eden ain't cheating. Eden ain't cheating. You're doing the voice and it sounded weird. I thought that was a language. I'm assuming this is a

fan favorite bit. People do love the rules. Number eight, mild card. The commissioner gets one pick. He can introduce in any single match to turn it into a triple threat match. Match. Number nine, whichever host chain wins the cup will get a bonus mystery prize from the commissioner. So if it's a wider chain, you get the gift.

If it's a Mitch chain, you get the gift. Okay. If it's the one that I enter in the tournament, I get the gift. Right, because you have the mild card where you can throw one in there. So will there be a gift today? No, no, no, it's the very end. When something wins the Dave Thomas Cup. Yeah, got it.

How aren't you following this? Not about that hotline ring. If Mitch's ring alarm goes off during a record, he is disqualified from voting in that episode. Wait, that already happened. But Mitch didn't know the rule yet, so I think it's unfair to disqualify him. I'm turning off my phone right now. All right. Since the rule is not established, you'll be giving a one-time waiver for this episode.

Okay. Are there any questions about the rules, or I think they're pretty clear? Wasn't there going to be a rule about me saying whether Nick could have French fries for McDonald's? We got rid of that rule. All right. I had a few fries. Eating is not cheating. Eating ate and cheating.

Eating ain't cheating. Eating ain't cheating. Eating ain't cheating. That's a cunolingus or that's a cunolingus joke. Going down on a woman who's not your partner if you're in a relationship is not infidelity. That's what it's eating and cheating is saying. Can I step out of character? Yeah, please.

The commissioner and ask. Your film's record guess what he thought of that segment. What do you think of that segment from like a filmic perspective? I don't think that we were cast in the next Napa Boys best out of the day.

He's kidding. I mean, a couple edits. You know what, Eddie, look, I asked for honesty and I got it. I have a question. You've seen Napa Boys. I've seen Napa Boys. Yes. It was a rough cut, though.

A rough cut, but a hoot. A lot of comedy heavy hitters in the audience, all laughing their butts off, and these are not easy laughs these people. I don't know if I can name names, but Bill Mar. A real who's who of comedy. Bill Mar.

We were at where they film Bill Mar, I believe. It's going to stop by. But it's a great movie. I'm so excited for these guys. And it's super funny, but I will say... Jimmy Fallon notoriously a hard laugh. Yeah, he was there. He was there.

It's also pure of heart. Oh, thank you. That's honestly I mean that sincerely. I just want to say, hold on, all those jokes, of course, there was a lot of heavy hitters there, though. Yeah. Yes. I heard Jimmy Fallon liked the movie so much that afterwards, he decided to have a little drink. She normally doesn't do.

It's like, you know what? Once in a while, I can celebrate. There was also a lot of pop. He's the rabble rousers. I mean, that can happen on the pod. I don't know if you've ever listened to before. No, he is not. We've established that.

Any podcast, no. There was also people who have a lot of heart heavy hit, like the heavy hitters of heart were there as well. Oh, yes, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shonda Rimes was there. Nancy Myers. Nancy Myers.

She was, yeah. So the comedy heavy hitters, I was sitting behind them, and they were laughing, dying, and the heart heavy hitters, they were crying. Right, because they were so moved. Nancy Myers and Mike Myers were both there. They were both there.

The funny one, not the scary one. Thank you. Okay. Speaking of comedies being back, your show, the fall and rise, rise and fall, fall and rise is the order. Fall and rise of Reggie Dinkins is... That's what you like. Don't be confused.

Fall and rise of Reggie Dinkins. Created by Robert Carlock and Sam Means. I was a writer on it, produced by Tina Faye, Tracy Morgan, Daniel Radcliffe. It's on NBC. Great cast. You wrote for it along with a lot of really funny people. People should check it out if they haven't already. It's really funny.

And thank you for that. and also to remind you guys A New York boy you became I did We'll talk about that. Did you guys Did you give rules on how often Someone could look directly into camera

You know what? I have that role of giving rules I was given all sorts of rules For you know how often people could look at camera How often You know in the writer's room You could do a little bit You know all kinds of rules

I was one making the rules. What the fuck were you going to say? That you guys also have as the inaugural episode of the show. Got it the third time. You have to decide who is the winner going to. Oh, right. That is part of it. I don't know if you want me here for that or can that be my departing.

I think yes. I think that can be a mission as you leave. Okay, well then cue the music. Or, you know, put it in post. Bye, guys. Commissioner Evan Susser, everybody. Thank you, Commissioner Trulling. Thank you, Commissioner Trulay.

Thank you, Commissioner, truly. You know, it was good. Hey, you guys got... Yeah, I was being hard on him for funny... Yeah, we love him. Nice, nice happy accident of that because Susser was taking up the Jemmy's cushion. Jemmy came over here and is snuggling next to me in Armin.

It's so cute. Just snug as a bug. Getting all sorts of butt scratches. Yeah, you like that. Over here. It's the head scratch. Yeah, she's getting it on both ends. Yeah, she's getting it in both ends.

But, you know, not in that. Not everything is a joke, okay? He's the one who said it. He said it strangely, my boy. You could argue that hot dog is, you could eat it for, if you put it in, instead of a sandwich. That is very true. You could absolutely argue that. Have you done bits like, oh, is a hot dog a sandwich or something like that?

Yeah, we've covered that probably. We covered that quite a bit. I think we landed on it is a sandwich, but also if you gave it to somebody and they would be like, no, this is a hot dog, not a sandwich. So from a taxonomy standpoint, that's what I imagine.

We used to have lunch every day, Armin and I. For hot dog. Oh, what's that? We used to have lunch almost every day of the week. Well, we can again because I have no wife or family. Hey, me neither. That's how you make film. Me either.

You got to focus on career. Right. Maybe this film will find us all lives. Hey, what a nice outcome that would be. You know what I mean? An IMD credit is good, but then also being listed in a bridal party is even better. Yes. The greatest credit of all is groom.

Groom. Is that what you found? Partner. Yes. Hey, grew or groom, what would you rather have the credit be? What's the credit? What's the credit? They're not mutual or groom.

They're not mutually exclusive. Gru ultimately becomes a groom and despicable me too. Even Gru's got a family, dude. Drew's got a wife. You think that certain people, they lose their talent when they love their family over there? Yes. Okay. I think so.

Yeah, I think some people that becomes, and that's fine. But just the shipping of crew could love Gru. Oh, I know. Do you see so many celebrities that when they abandon their family, they do come back. They have a nice comeback. Right. If Drew can find a wife, we can find wife. It's true.

Does he have one? He's a villain. I don't even know, really. his deal was. He's a villain. Well, that's it. And he's got the, those guys who has worked for him.

The minions, yeah, the minions are his employees. They were originally created by Gru and then they got retcondes. They existed since the beginning of time and have worked for various villains. Obviously, he's sort of not as bad. They skipped over a stretch of time.

They skipped over an era, yeah. Yeah. He's not like a... Have you gone into the minutia of the minion lore? We've gotten into that a little bit. That's another thing that you guys do here. Another thing that we kind of do. Yeah, another avenue explore.

Yeah, it's fun. Nick, you'll like this. Nick has a new tattoo, and I think you'll like to see it. Oh my, yeah, yeah. Well, I like to see it up. Armand, you'll like to see it too. Hold on. But I think Nick...

I'm doing it shoulder-wise. No, that's one of his... I'm doing tattoos. He actually has two new tattoos, really. No, this is my mid-life crisis thing is getting tattoos and I'm enjoying it. I know, I'm... Let's see if I can do this.

What's the least awkward way? I mean, you chose the most awkward way so far. Well, no, the thing is I got another tattoo here now that's... But I just won't cover it up. It seems like Nick is not. not interested anyways. Oh, here we go.

Oh, it's Verrang. Oh, wow. From the way of water. You have a tattoo of Verang. Oh, I'm sorry. You have three new tattoos. Yeah. From the chaplain family.

I call the therapist, don't worry. As in Charlie Chapman. My therapist says it's healthy self-harm. So there you go. It's a healthy outlet for self-harm. Who is your... You want me cutting? You want me cutting, Mitch?

I mean, I like... I'm very happy with you. doing this. I don't have I ever tattoos referred to as self-harm but healthy

self-arm? Who the fuck is your therapist? Who is this joker-esque? He wears a lot of makeup. Jared Leto?

Yeah. That's it. That's it. I will say that I love Varang. I think Avatar 3 should win Best Picture.

It was not even nominated. It should win because of what I think that they're historically monumentally snubbed

at the Oscars, James Cameron should win these Academy Awards. Bereng played by Una Chaplin. It's only ironic that her grandfather was in the first film and she is in one of the last films ever made, which is Avatar. The real last film is probably Napa Boys, but I would say as far as a big budget is concerned, Avatar is probably one of the final films ever made. Maybe Napa Boys though reinvigorates the film industry, like a, like an actor

like a rise in all of well like Star Wars yes yes yes and like Star Wars I mean there's a possibility that happens Armand are you fan of the Avatar franchise

of course I'm out of my some sort of Scrooge like character did you see did you get a chance to see Fire and Ash yet I know you're busy promoting the movie posting your movie but yeah I saw the chaplains

I think The problem is it's what we experience when you're in the middle of Yeah, sort of making something. As we said, career, religion, family. Push those aside. Oh, no, keep career in mind.

That counts as work. Don't be a... Come on, man. I think also Stephen Lang, as Miles Quarich, should also be nominated. He's not nominated. Incredible.

One of the greatest villains of our time. Spiders, Miles. Yes, and Spider is technically a Miles Jr., which is Armin's character in Napa Boys. And Fire and Ash is what we experienced. These are all rhyming, as George would say. They all rhyme with each other, the fact that they're coming out around the same time. And there's almost never been a Miles Jr. in a film that was so comedic about it until Avatar, Wave Water, and Fire and Ash.

I was the only other Miles Jr. Besides our film. Makes you wonder if there's some sort of cosmic force connecting it all. So at a more micro level than the middocrarians themselves. Aywaw. Could be AWO could be the will. It's AWOL. Yeah.

Saw AWO in the movie, kind of a big baby in the forest there. Okay. Well, she looks kind of a, it looks a little bit more adult. How am I the weird one in this? How did it all turn on me here? I think because it's so serious. You know, there is some sort of, if. there are movie gods. I think we honored them and I will say that in case something happens

to me after this airs or something and I'm not suicidal and I you're nuts. What are you talking about? I just mean like I do think we did something that somebody's trying to stop us but this is it's from the heart. You're not you're like a bowing whistleblower. You don't need to worry about like falling out a window. You're going to be okay. We are exposing sort of the, you know, something. I would agree that a force like AWAA is at hand in connecting Napa Boys and Avatar Fire and Ash and and it's quite apt that there even is

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It's called Munch Madness? Yes. I think you guys are doing it. It's like March Madness, but it's Munch. Yes, and it's two, it's competing. It's like Big Mac and versus Bunch Madness. and versus double cheeseburger? Well, yes, Nick.

Thank you for, yeah, the other Nick, Tiger can take it away. Here's the thing. This is the grimace region of this particular much madness. It is? This is a grimace region. Mitch and I each, we picked our four entrants. I got catch up on texts.

Do you have another pitch? What the fuck's going on here? Do you have another pitch? No, it's great. Oh, wait, Mitch, grimace is... Wasn't it, I'm loving it region? Everything's changed. I don't give a fuck.

Everything is confusing. I should have known it. would be confusing. It's my fault. The most confusing thing I've ever experienced was our group chat this weekend. Everything is fucking confusing. I'm so overwhelmed with this fucking movie that's coming out. I'm very excited about it.

Yeah, it's great. But now exciting times. Grimmis is a purple guy. I know what I was going to say. He's part of the... Do you like, I'm loving it more? We could make it. No, I like the grimace region. Okay, it's a grimace region. Everyone likes Grimmis. So Mitch and I independently picked four chains.

and but one of the things that was on the table was to pick something from the Mac attack tournament because McDonald's itself has never won the tournament although fries won Mac attack are McDonald's tournament Mitch you and I independently each chose McDonald's menu items I chose the runner-up double cheeseburger which lost to fries and you chose Big Mac which was eliminated a little bit earlier let me just tell them the real let me give him the real deal give him the real deal you chose fucking hash brown I did choose hash browns first and then we did that we realized the logistical possibility of getting a McDonald's breakfast hash browns when we normally were You and I had a slice of pizza.

For breakfast? No. No, this was separately. Our buddy chef Kevin, we wish chef Kevin Locke, a legendary podcast producer here and Leah as well, and then their family. They had a little going away party, and we were over there. We had a great time. We saw Who's Who in podcasting.

All the producers were there. Every number from one to 20 was there. They were all there. I'll just say who's 20. Well. We won't. get into this. He won't get into it. Can we get into this? If you weren't invited to this party, it's just, it was in the spam. It's probably in the spam, yeah. I don't know what you guys have

some political. Oh, thank you. That was helpful. Ragging about this party. And Delhi Boys is probably 20. Deli Boys? Yeah, they're probably 20 or so. Oh, yeah. Around there. You forgot about deli boys? No, I didn't. I didn't. I know. So we went to this hang. I ate a hot dog there with Matt Apodaca and then you and I went afterwards and had pizza slices. We went to Bub and Grandma's. Bub and Grandma's pizza. Oh, yeah. Not Bug and Grandma's pizza.

Bub and Grandma's pizza. So Bub and Grandma's a bakery here. Now they have their own pizza joint. They had some pizza. We had some pizza. And I said, oh shit. Hash Brown is a morning item. Big Mac is an afternoon item.

We're in trouble here. We can't do this. And then you and I both decide double cheeseburgers are worthy for your replacement. I was very happy to have double cheeseburger in here. That would have been my second pick, and if we're talking about lunch items, like absolutely. Actually, that wasn't your second. We just said quarter pounder with cheese a piece of shit. I thought double cheeseburger was better.

Yeah, it is. I'm trying to help you. I'd rather have a double cheeseburger than a quarter pounder with cheese. If we were a real guess. Yeah. Your real guess. This is, this was what you guys would be saying, right? Yes.

Yeah, we're going to go normally. We wouldn't talk about a movie for an hour. I mean, we would. I'm asking because I obviously, Hask Brown's part. That's insane. I agree with you that it was an insane. I also don't really know the context. French fries won the tournament, Armand.

I'm surely Fast Browns can't win a McDonald's tournament. French fries won the tournament. Originally, so we can't choose French fries. Right. Oh. So he chose hash fries. So there's no repeat sort of Lakers. No, none of the past champions are eligible. The full list. Burger Brawl in and out burger. Chicken fight Wendy's the Slice is right dominoes, mouth of the border Taco Bell,

Mac Attack, fries. Pye noon, dairy queen, Heroes Journey, Jersey, Mike's, bowl, Chipotle, and Sweet Green, Cochamp, champions, dochiero Taco Bell, beefy five-layer burrito, and the tournament of champions of champions, Wendy's ultimately won. These all happened while you've been gone. These all happened while you were gone. You went hard of a champion in the very first tournament, I believe. And then you went away. Then you went away.

I could never win again. Well, we'll see what happens. What is your normal, Armin, as a McDonald's fan? What is your normal McDonald's order? It depends on the day, but obviously they would involve probably the chicken McNuggets of some kind at some point. I just think that they're, they are actually one of the most special things because there's tenders all over this world.

They don't taste the same as those little sort of the boots and the circle. What's your nug sauce, what's your go-to? And do you like a boot or a circle more? I like them all. I don't even know. The sauce is almost irrelevant, but obviously I guess. Sweet and sour.

To be barbecue. Oh. I'm answering really earnestly because I also get that a big mag is quite up there in the top. three items. Nick, do you have a go-to McDonald's order? Now, I was going to say that in dealing with between Big Macs and Double Cheeseburgers, actually, my former common order was adding Big Mac sauce to a double cheeseburger.

Wow. And see, so now you're getting sort of the umami of the double cheeseburger with the little special sauce. You keep the ketchup and mustard on there, though. You keep it on there. You keep it on there. And but I will say that then it flippers. There's something about the Big Mac that is just very transcendent and iconic and the, you know, the sesame bun.

And I do think in theory there's, you know, we talk about alternate realities and, oh, are we in the right one? You know, you see online with the terrible, you know, with things happening in the world. And I would claim that certain things, the Olympics, which just happened. Yes. And McDonald's would remain the same throughout all of these alternative. They are things that are perfect standards that remain in every version of reality. Wow. Yeah.

I agree. I agree. I love McDonald's. And one of the menu item I picked is part of my, is one of my regular orders. I will very often get a double cheeseburger combo. Me too. And or a double cheeseburger also a go-to side sandwich for me. Like if I'm going like a, you know, whatever, like I'm getting like a Big Mac or something.

I might want a little extra. Or if I'm getting McNuggets, it might have a little extra. Interesting. If you get a Big Mac, you'll get a side sandwich of a double cheeseburger. Yeah, I've done that. I made that move. Me too. Yeah.

I think Big Mac and Double Cheasburger are my two most ordered items besides fries. They complement each other nicely, but which one is superior? You guys are eating these for the first time. You guys are eating these next to each other in this context, trying to make a pick a winner. Can I just say that? What is your? Yeah. Our guest pulled a little stunt here.

And he pulled out some McNuggets that he had brought secretly. I just thought you guys liked little pranks. And if you switch them, then it becomes part of the famous lore. And I just want to be part of the... I guess I've won, though, already 20 years ago. Do you want us to add McNuggets into it and make it a three-way battle? What was the prank? It takes too long.

What was the prank? No, there was no prank. It's actually all love. Honestly, I wouldn't even want to choose between either of these, all three. I think to not derail it, I'll say, yeah, put them in. Okay, so McNuggets are in as well. The commission has to allow it. You don't have to, P.S. I'm sorry.

No. Okay. It's been ruled against. Let's go the... He's following up. On second thought, they're in. Wow. McNuggets are in.

Wow, okay, McNuggets are in. No, I didn't eat any of the McNuggets today, so I'm going off of memory. Someone go get them a nugget? You remember. Did you have a nugget? With that in mind, they're out. Wow, Susser's saying they're out again.

Hold on. Let's just get them a fucking nugget. I'm not going to vote for a nugget over double cheeseburg. No, no, you shouldn't. But they're back in. Okay, they're back in. I'm not going to vote for them either. Okay.

But our guests can. If both our guests go for McNuggettuggett, McNuggets can advance. No, no, it's just more... I know. I already can sense that they're not going to go far. You don't think so? They're for children. They're for small-minded fools. They're for all ages.

Amelia's returning is walking in with a chicken McNuggets 10 keys. Hey, McNuggets and in an out tray. How about that? Putting in an outray, I know. What a dream. What a brain breaker. We taught Ryan what cum was? That's what he says. That was awesome.

He was 14, wasn't he? He should be. He might have been making a joke. He might have been making a joke about a comedy podcast. He was making a joke. But he also might have learned it life. Yeah, he's probably making a joke. We don't do many of those on the podcast, so I wasn't sure.

Well, you know what? It could also be a sort of thing of, like, he knew it as, like, semen or jizz or, like, baby batter. And he'd never heard come before. He'd never heard cum before. Right. And then he heard come from us. He's like, oh, come. Oh, I'm putting it together from context clues.

Well, we can ask him more when he gets back here. Yeah, we'll ask him if he was jacking off when he was 14. It's okay to ask a 20-year-old intern. he was jacking off when he was 14. I think so, yeah. Okay, all right, great. I think it's okay. Anyways, boys, you like McDonald's. Both of you like McDonald's.

So this is, yes, we've established that. This is going to be a tough battle for you guys. I guess I should eat a chicken McNugget for the purposes, even though this is room temp and sauceless. Careful. Oh, Jimmy's going to like those. Can she have one? You can give her a tiny little bite.

I was telling Amelia, she had explosive diarrhea yesterday all over our yard, so I'm being a little careful about the tummy. I'm not going to do it. I want temp fate. I think, I mean, it's still good. This is the thing. A cold McNuget with no sauce is still very good. Now, Weiger, have you jacked off to Vang?

I have not jacked out to Vang yet. Would you try? If there was the right NSFW cosplay or fan art, I think I could try to get it going. So a human in Varang Horeng outfit would maybe do it over a AI or a cartoon version? I think you need some sort of imagery. What if it was the same exact model? that they used in Avatar naked. Because they probably did bottle it nude at a certain point.

Of course. Of course. What if I delivered that from New Zealand to you, would that be something you'd be interested in? If I had like a 3D Studio Max asset of that, that I could pose at will. Yes. Yeah, I'd be interested in that. Okay. Yeah. But I think I need some sort of issue. Are you saying you can get your hands on this?

You know, if he thinks he would. You directors are one big club. They have a connection with Weta. I would have to say Big Mac because thinking about it... Hold on a second. He's doing the thing you want. No, no. No, I think this is great.

The fact that I added Big Mac sauce to the double cheeseburger, I think, is what tips it over the edge. Okay, okay, okay. But hold on, no one's voting yet, is what I'm saying. Yeah, we're not voting yet. Oh, oh. So that's insane. That's your instinct going in.

That wasn't very clearly established. I agree with you. I was so nervous about this vote. I agree. I felt guilty to even add... what is the is there a winner of just this that's what we're establishing

and then there's another thing it goes on it goes on it goes on it will advance the next stage of the tournament it was this mean you pick the losers and I'm out I could have won when's that start

what the fuck are you talking about yeah what are you talking about honestly I think everyone knows exactly what I'm talking about there's you pick the four losers and then you choose where they get to go yes you're talking about Fat Chance Kitchen

no he's also he's also talking about where we're send the winner. Oh, right. We actually do need to decide that before we pick us on who's going to advance. So in the past, like, it was like a... This is the Jess McKenna rule. This is established in year one of the tournament. There you go. We are sending, uh, that was a burger tournament and like the idea was... You're sending it to the aliens to not to destroy the human beings. But we're also sending it to say like, this is the platonic ideal of a burger. This is what,

this is what a burger represents. To not kill us would obviously be nuggets and then if it was for the burgerie, you'd pick the Big Mac. For the purposes of this tournament, for the purposes of this particular one, we're deciding which of these McDonald's menu items, most represents McDonald's. But we know that one, too. We sent it to Joe Rogan, so he changed his mind on the vaccine one year. We got something to say?

Great, get in here. You have your own mic, too, if you want it. No, that's actually incorrect. You're not choosing which one best represents McDonald's. You're choosing what's the best item. So we're just using what our favorite is. Got it. So we're choosing what our favorite is.

Which of these menu items are which of these chains ultimately? You're struggling each time in that suit to get back up. How about Mitch? Which of these big losers is going to the biggest loser to take those trim down hunks and plump them back up? That's pretty fun. It's a good show that hasn't been on the air for a good seven years or so. That's just one starting point. It could also go to a losing presidential candidate.

Kamala Harris. It could to get her ready for the next election. Hold on, sorry. What were you going to say there, Nick? Another way of looking at what was previously said is, and I can see this happening very soon as, you know, an alien in Trump meeting. What item would Trump give the alien to best represent? Oh, interesting.

So we're giving an item to Trump to give to the aliens. I think my leg hurts. you're all right do you want to stand up no i don't want the dog to move what which leg hurts i don't know i admit that let's focus back on the champion trump alien are you stretching he would give a big bag he would give a hold one a second that has nothing to fucking do with it we need to figure out isn't that what munch madness is it is but we're saying in general we're saying in general it's everybody he would obviously today it's what wins the whole it's what wins a whole tournament so if today's item item wins it's what would go it's what what

He wins the whole tournament. Right. You give something to Nick Reiner, for instance, to... Well, he wouldn't even... He would probably choose fillet of fish. I mean, yeah, okay. Although those are also good. I don't even talk about it.

We're saying you give it to someone to make it something better. You're giving it to the aliens so they don't destroy Earth. Trump calls the filet of fish the fish delight, which I like. You're not helping now either. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah, I, okay, so... Well, a broken clock is... Mm-hmm.

Well said. So we don't want to say we're giving it to Nick Reiner. That's probably too bleak. I didn't say that we should give it to Nick Reiner or Rambler. We can kind of rule it out. I'm not the rabble rouser. I've been the normal one. And if you believe until proven guilty, we can give him something.

We give it to Roger Rabbit. We give it to Dr. What's his name? The doctor. Who's the bad guy from Roger Rabbit? Doom. Oh, Judge Doom? Doom.

Judge Doom. No, Dr. Doom is from, although maybe it should be Dr. Doom. Maybe we give it to Dr. Doom. Can we give it to Kevin Spacey tap dancing in Tel Aviv? Yeah, let's give it to Kevin Spacey tap dancing in Tel Aviv. This is an edgy show. This is an edgy show with edgy jokes. I, hi-hi.

We're giving it to Kevin Spacey, tap dancing in Tel Aviv. No, no, no, no. He's going to bring peace through tap dancing. He's going to tap dance so well that he solves the whole thing and becomes uncanneled. That's not, that can't be what it is. Is there no winner today? We're going to pick a winner.

But it's just for like a, it's like a playoff. Yeah, this is the first round. You can give it to any, you could give it to any current event person and it would be in, and, you know. Or any character from fiction. You can give it a quadritch, quiddary. Oh, Quillardich. I love Quirich. Oh, Quirich, we can give it to.

We can give it a quoritch. How about, how about here's a thing? You remember Corrich goes and brings us sandwich to Spider? This is what Corrich will give to Spider that will make him turn to his dad's side and join him in Varan. That's bad. Which is a burger in the film. Which is a burger in the film. And but he didn't eat the burger.

He doesn't eat the burger. So now Nuggets were back and play. I was in the bathroom during that scene, for real. Really? Yeah, I missed the burger scene. Did you see it again? No. You got to see it again, Mitch.

I liked it more of the second viewing. Yep. That's what they say about now. Of course. I'll be seeing that one more than once. Yeah. But it is true. You're supposed to revisit it forever.

Of course. And watch with your family. I don't know what camera three. And check it out. All right, fine. Yeah. Give them the nuggets. Okay.

So they also are saying that Spider never peed. Yeah, he doesn't pee. He doesn't pee. Remember he needed to pee? They're going to fucking kill him and he's holding in a pee. He's got a whiz so bad. Let him piss. But what's more important, right?

Yes. Because sometimes if you don't pee Because you got to Maybe you're making love or something Oh yeah Yeah you don't want to break up making love With a bathroom break And you should after

For health You should after yeah That's what they say For health reason, yes This is too edgy of a show Okay so Mitch I like this I like where your head's at We're giving it to Quarich

To give to Spider And it is going to be such a good Chain Restaurant experience that spider is going to go over to the dark side. He is going to join his father. Quite cleverly, the opposite of a human giving an alien. Now it's an alien giving a human. Yeah, now it's an alien giving it to a human.

I think that's beautiful. That is beautiful. And then he will join Corrich and Varong. And so now that's how we're framing. That's how we're framing. That's how we're deciding. But we're also just voting what we like best because that will be, of course, be the best candidate.

If we were the spider getting it. If we were the spider getting it, what would persuade us? Yeah. Or should we just give it to the Tourette's guy from the Baptist? All right. It is an edgy show. All right. Let's get to the brass taxi.

What would he yell at an avatar? We have to edit so much of this show out. This is off the rails. I like spider quorich. I think this is great. I think the avatar tie-in is appropriate for us. Are we, I was going to answer. So here's what I'm going to say, Mitch, but the way this is working, because it is reheated rivalry, because it's Mitch versus Weiger, the first thing we're going to do before we open up to our guests.

Hey, we're, uh, yeah, is that you and I are going to decide if we are going to change our votes. We're fighting each other. I brought in double cheeseburger. You brought in Big Mac. Yes. I will say, oh, yeah, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. Do you got the music queue? I don't put it in.

There's music? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. What's the music? Hold on. When you get asked, yes. This is part of the chaos of the group chat yesterday.

So it's fall. I got to scroll for a few miles, but I'll find it. This is like joining Seinfeld in season nine, you know, like as a guest star, you come right in. You guys are just. But we're very welcoming, unlike them, who I think was not. They were pretty mean. They were cold. We don't get to.

Weigs, I'll ask you. Are you got it? Wegs, I will ask you, are you going to change your vote for what you broad. Okay, we're hearing some Who Wants to Be a Millionaire sort of music. Yeah, yeah, sort of. Mitch? Isn't it?

No. I am sticking with double cheeseburger. Wow. Mitch. Are you going to change and vote against what you brought? No. Wow. So it is not it up. It falls to our guests. I vote for McDonald's Big Mac to move on, Wiggs.

Wow. So I've got Double Cheeseburg. You've got Big Mac. We're dancing with the one that brought us. brought you as the rules have declared. Armand, Nick, what say you? Should we give that music, too? No, I guess we can. Well, you know mine, Big Mac.

So, Nick says Big Mac. That's going to be. The music's going to be quick there. I mean, I feel bad because I think, well, I just, hold on. Give him some music. Yeah, let's give him some music. Well, this is just, well, I feel bad. I feel bad because obviously we're talking about, well, A, I don't even know what's funny.

The stakes are low. A Big Mac has never won this award in the 20 years. You guys been doing years? It hasn't quite been 20 years. Okay. I just feel like obviously that is the right answer. That's probably what I'll have to say. Wow.

But I don't, I do feel guilt about saying it. Do you feel guilt? I just do. Okay. Move it back in. No, I mean, I don't want to make any humor-based sort of thing. This is not a joke. I mean, nuggets probably will win a separate tournament when it's the chicken of the...

Is the music still playing? Mm-hmm. All right, so your decision is Big Mac. Big Mac, moving on. Three. How about we say, we count down from three. Hold on. Oh, God, damn it.

I, can you play the music again? Armin, I hate to do this to you. But I was observing the eating today. It's true. Did you eat the Big Mac? Did you eat the double cheeseburger? The entire double cheeseburger. That's all I ate.

It was beautiful. You ate the entire double cheeseburger. What the fuck is going on here? And you're voting for Big Mac? I know because it's true. Interesting. I will say, I think Nick is right. With the sauce.

Wow. I almost like a... Let's count down from three and say our... We already know the winner. Big Mac is moving on. Let's just do it for fuck's sake. Just do it. Three, two.

I don't know if our guests are going to cooperate. Three. Two. You are right. One. Double Cheeseburger. Great. Big Mac.

Moving on. Double Cheeseburger goes down to the losers bracket. Oh, wait. We can decide where those go, don't we? We'll figure that out. I am. Tear enough. Yeah, let's figure it out on another episode.

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and let's get back to that. And no, let's end for no killing for one year. That's really good. I'm going to say this, I'm going to plug some things here too. Yeah. Napa Boys comes out First of all, I want to say Watch Strip Law on Netflix

Callin Crawford. Yeah, which you have your voice on. We just did like the Like all the closer, that was the closer. Yeah, we should really be point point people at the Napa Boys. I'm about to plug the shit out of Napa Boys, you idiots. But Never Kill it.

On March 6th, it's the New York opening weekend. And there will be a, uh, There will be a prime evening showing at the Angelica Film Center, Friday, March 6th. Saturday, March 7th. Wait, this will be a Q&A. This will be a Q&A. And you'll be in attendance.

And I'll be in attendance. Wow. On Saturday, March 7th, there's a prime evening showing at the Angelica Film Center as well. Will you be in person for that one? And yes, I will, Wags. I will be there as well. And then on March 13th, we'll be in good old Texas at South by Southwest. will be at the Alamo draft house.

I don't know if that was. That was a whip. And you guys will be there as well, right? Yeah. On March 13th at the Alamo draft house. And then on March 23rd at the Somerville theater, a homecoming of sorts in Somerville. Napa Boys will be screen there and I will be there as well.

You're going to be up in Massachusetts. That's right. How about that? So go see Napa Boys in theaters, wherever you are. and then if you are in New York, Austin, or Boston, you have the option of seeing the Spoon Man IRL at a Q&A screening. That's right. It opens in New York that week of March 7th.

And then it opens everywhere. What day, boys? March 6th. I mean, February 27th is the L.A. And then March 7th. 6th, 6th is the, hey, 6th 7th. 6.7. Well.

And yeah, no violence. The Napa Boys in theaters now. That'll do it for this episode of Do Boys. Until next time for the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. I'm Tiger Weiger. Please, no killing for one year. Hope you like that hat. Hey, thank you.

It looks good on me. Happy eating. See ya. Eh. That was a hate gum podcast.