Doughboys - Olive Garden 3 with Alison Rosen

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

Alison Rosen (Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend, Childish) joins the 'boys to talk about their favorite egg preparations before a review of Olive Garden. Plus, another edition of Let Me Be Frank.Sources for this week's intro:https://www.orlando.gov/Our-Government/Historyhttps://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/history-of-disney-world-facts-timelinehttps://theculturetrip.com/north-america/usa/florida/articles/how-orlando-became-the-theme-park-capital-of-the-world/https://www.visitorlando.com/things-to-do/theme-parks/https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/70911/10-facts-you-might-not-know-about-olive-gardenhttps://www.darden.com/restaurants/olive-gardenWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

No one knows the exact origin of the name Orlando. According to the city's official history, the Florida Metropolis was named after either a local judge's employee, or a Shakespeare character beloved by that same judge, or a caravan driver who died en route to Tampa, or a camp guard killed in the Seminole War. But Orlando would flip from a nondescript Florida citrus and military town into one of the defining American cities in 1965, when Walt Disney selected it as the home of Disney World. In 1971, Disney World's Magic Kingdom opened, and today Disney World consists of a massive

complex of four theme parks and two water parks and growing. In 1990, Universal Parks and Resorts followed suit with Universal Studios Florida and added the Islands of Adventure in 1999, and along with SeaWorld Orlando and its sister park Discovery Cove, Legoland, Florida, and more niche options like the evangelical-operated Holy Land Experience, the property's collectively entrenched Orlando is the family equivalent of Las Vegas, the theme park capital of the world. Driven primarily by the big two of Disney and Universal, and their range of intellectual property as sprawling as the greater Orlando area itself, O-Town has become one of the

biggest tourist destinations in the world, right behind Cairo and Athens and ahead of Moscow, Venice, and Madrid. And as a goldmine of themed artifice, it's fitting that in 1982, Orlando was chosen as the test market for a sit-down Italian-American concept conceived as a chain from the very beginning by corporate owner General Mills. Despite the brick facade and three tenors-powered dining room playlist, the restaurant's actual attachment to Italy is about as superficial as that of Epcot's Italian pavilion. Nevertheless, the eatery's ample pasta portions and never-ending salad bowls, subsequently

expanded to include soup and breadsticks as well, were a hit with hungry locals and in short order, it expanded across North America. Today in its parent company Darden's careful verbiage, it's the nation's, quote, largest chain of Italian-themed restaurants, end quote, an Orlando original through and through, whoever Orlando was. This week on Doe Boys, we return, once again, to Olive Garden. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, Entrez 3000, the Spoonman Mike Mitchell.

That was a good one. That was a good one. And you know what? It was from Johnny Is Good on Twitter and the Doe Scored, roast Spoonman at Gmail. The name don't lie. Johnny is good. Hey, Entrez 3000, outcasts, who doesn't love outcasts, likes. Who doesn't?

They're two of the greats. Entrez 3000, of course, big boy. Okay, all right. Bob's big boy and Mike, it for me, right? Okay. All right. Let's check live roast. Mitch, we have a fantastic guest who I do want to get to, but there's something I want

to talk about beforehand, because I read this, actually, will you play along with this? Because I think this is pretty much how you'll react anyway. Well, I'll read the first part, and then you act like you're going to fall asleep, and then I'll say the second part, and you perk up. It'll make sense. Okay. Okay. All right.

Mitch, I read this fascinating long read in The New Yorker. Okay. Okay. The New Yorker. Sounds like a snooze, Wags. Entitled, The Unlikely Rise of the French Tacos. Huh? Let me read a little bit from this.

French Tacos are like, this is a very popular fast food in France. Did I do that the way you wanted me to? That was great. I mean, we're going to leave all this in, right? The explanation and everything. 100%. Yes. All right.

Good. So, here's a description of what the food stuff actually is. This is something that started at some independent places and became chainified. French Tacos are like tacos, like chicken fingers or fingers, which is to say they are not tacos at all. First of all, through some mistranslation or misapprehension of its Mexican namesake, the French Tacos is always plural, even when there's only one produced with a voiced S, so it's like McGriddles.

The singular McGriddles is McGriddles. Wow. The singular French Tacos is French Tacos. Interesting. The French Tacos is a sandwich of flour tortillas slathered with condiments piled with meat, usually halal meat, and other things, usually French fries doused in cheese sauce, folded into a rectangular packet, and then toasted on a grill. In short, a rather successful marriage between panini, kebab, and burrito.

Doesn't that sound like heaven? That sounds fantastic. I'm not going to lie. That sounds so good. And now look, I'm not a big fan of the French, but that sounds great. You seem to have a problem with Western Europe in general. Are you? What is that supposed to mean?

Are you accusing me of being xenophobic or something? I don't know. You don't like the Italians. You don't like the French. You know what? You're right. They're going to be starting on the Belgians. I fucking hate the Belgians more than any of them.

They gave us fries. Wags, I am fucking... I'm feeling it today. I feel like I drank a cold brew. You know why? Why's that? I got my second dose. I'm faxed.

Wow, congrats. I'm faxed. And I feel like... How exciting. Is there some Red Bull in this? Does Pfizer have a deal with Red Bull? I feel fucking amped. I feel amped up.

Also, I love Bill Gates. It was like... Yeah, that is a side effect. It was like Cupid's arrow hitting my arm. He just wants to be liked. That's the mind control aspect of it. He just wants people to be a fan of him. I fell in love as soon as the arrow...

As soon as the needle hit my arm, Wags. I'm faxed, though. Congrats. How exciting. In-person birthday boat recording starting as soon as I get back. Birthday boys. Oh, fuck. Toe boys.

You starting a podcast? Oh, God. Yeah, that would be great. 200 listeners like the fucking show. Doe boys. In-person Doe Boys records. What do you think, Wags? That's contingent on you returning to LA, and I will believe that when I see it.

Yeah, maybe not. Maybe I won't come back. Yeah. I was saying to our guest who we should introduce right now... Oh, wait. I have a drop. You got to play a drop. How to how to Spoon Nation.

But I was saying that Wally and Irma, like in LA, for my screens in LA, when I opened the window, they're like very loose, and so I don't open them too much because I'm afraid Wally and Irma will just pop them off and leave and get in the car and take off, get out of, leave Farmers and leave LA. But here, I put the screen down for my mom's window, Wally and Irma loving it, Wags. They're sitting in there. They're watching. They're looking at the birds and the tree.

They love the fresh air. So I might become a guy who takes his cats for walks. It might happen. It's a fun kind of eccentric. I think that's better than the snake guy. What? The guy who takes his snake? I'll take the cat on the leash guy versus the snake guy.

No, I mean like the snake around the neck guy. Oh, he's taking a snake for a walk? Yeah. That's a weird guy. Or the parrot guy? Yeah. The parrot guy is a strange guy. Yeah.

Give me the cat leash guy any day. Don't you, when you go out on a daily basis, don't you tell Natalie you're taking the snake for a walk? All right. Play your drop, Mitch. Are you mad at me? No. All right.

Here we go. I'm a normal man who is born the normal way. I'm not a violent man. I'm a man. I'm a regular man. I've said I love you to my wife. I'm a nice man. Wow.

What is that song? I don't know. I mean, we're losers. They're going to make fun of us. It sounded like you two. It did, yeah. To me, but then it's going to be like, no, Mitch. It's the brawlers, dude.

Didn't you know it was the brawlers? No, I don't know who the brawlers are. How did you not know it was the brawlers, you moron? Their sound is transcended, dude. I don't fucking know. We're old. The brawlers listen to dough boys. You don't know the brawlers?

Hey, guys, longtime listener, first time dropper and proud Patreon supporter here. Thank you. Wow. Just wanted to say that your show means a lot to me and has provided me with so many much needed laughs this year. Enjoy the drop. Joe from Bellingham, Washington. Wow.

Thanks, Joe. Thanks, Joe. Thanks for it. Thank you for introducing us to the brawlers. I'm going to get a brawler's shirt. I'm all in. All right, introduce our guest. Mitch, fantastic guest, returning to the show.

It's been too long. The host of the podcast, Allison Rosen is your new best friend and childish. Allison Rosen, hi, Allison. Hello. I'm so excited to be back. I already have many things to say, not even about the food, about which I have tons of things to say too, and I can't wait to get to it. But first of all, in addition to the snake guy and parrot guy, I think you forgot ferret

guy. Oh, ferret guy. That's a very specific person at the college that I went to in the dining hall. There was one table where everyone at the table had an animal with them. There was like someone who had a rat on her shoulder, someone who had a snake. There was a ferret person. I feel like there was also probably a bird person, but I think in that environment it would have been unsafe to have a bird.

And then there were a lot of people who were like, that's so gross to have that in the dining hall. But I philosophically want to be so pro-animal that I'm fine with that. Yeah. And I think I even was then, whereas now I'm like, yeah, I don't know that I want a rat that close to a salad bar, but I don't know. I have a question for you. Lay it on me.

Was goat boy at the table? There was no goat boy. No goat boy. No SNL's goat boy. No, not at the time. That was terrible, yes, anding on my part. I just didn't know who goat boy was. Let's do it again.

No, that was great. Let's do it again. Our listeners don't either. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Hey, I got a question for you. Yes.

Was goat boy at the table? Yes. Wow. Goat boy was there too. Did you guys really opened it up? Hey, I'm going to go get some more Bayter tots. There you go. Oh, there we go.

Weigher just looked at me dead-eyed. I liked it. The other thing I wanted to say is, Mitch, it's surprising that after your vax, you feel full of energy because the first thing I felt was just fatigue, which I think is standard. Yeah, I got, there's something's going on with mine. My heart's pumping again or something. There's something happening there that I feel, I got energy.

I truly feel like I drank a cold brew. It's too much. I don't like it. Listen, have you had both doses? I have. Yes. Okay. Are you Pfizer family or Moderna?

I'm Moderna. Wow. Okay. Now, I know that Pfizer is more desirable. I don't know why, but it seems to be more desirable, but I'm Moderna and I love it. Wow. I love it. I've loved every bit of Moderna that I've had.

What are you guys, are you team Pfizer? I've been, I've gotten dose one of Pfizer and I'll be in a couple of weeks, I'll be all vaxed up and then I guess you have to wait in a couple more weeks after that to do anything. Right. Yeah. I guarantee you the fucking, the person who gave you the shot was fucking eyeing you for that 15 minutes and being like, there's something wrong with this guy.

No, we had a lovely conversation, a retired nurse like my mom. Wow. And she'd come back into the fold to give people vaccines. Oh, yeah. Nice conversation. Are you wearing an N64 shirt? I am. I'm wearing a Nintendo 64 shirt.

I have that shirt, Wags. How about that? From Target? Yeah. From Target. You know, Mitch, here's the thing. People talk about our differences, but at heart we are very similar men. We have similar interests, similar age range.

I'm going to pass on this con, though. I don't like it. Yes. We were both virginal dorks playing banjo-kazooie. I was also a virginal dork, but I don't have that shirt. But till what age were you virginal? We don't have to talk about that. I think we should.

I'm taking over. Let's get into it. Late. I was 20 and a half. It was on my half birthday. We saw Ace Ventura 2 in the theater. Wow. I was about two years older than you were.

OK. I'm a loser. I don't want to admit this. I feel like you're just a beautiful late bloomer. Yeah. My cool guy image that I've racked up on this podcast is people are going to get skewered. You're fine. You're both fine.

Ace Ventura 2? Or was it Ace Ventura 1? I think it was Ace Ventura 2. But when nature calls, the one where it goes inside the big rhinoceros. I mean, that sounds right. The thing is, I knew that it was going to happen. So the entire movie, I was just like full of nerves and adrenaline and like, oh my God, isn't that the best hat it's going to have?

So I have no memory of the movie. Wow. Wow. Yeah. What about you, Nick? I made Mitch reveal. What about you? Wow.

I was a legal adult. I was 18 years old. Wow. When I finally... Okay, cool guy. I mean, cool is like 13 or 15. Cool is like, I was like a sophomore in high school. That's cool.

I'm in the middle of the bell curve, I think. Right? Fuck you. I think you're cool. I think you're pretending to be lame. Okay, great. I'll take it. I do not think you're cool.

I think you're fucking cool. I'm definitely not cool. I'm definitely lame. Allison, I'm curious, at the end of quarantine as in sight, it seems you've received your second dose. Mitch has gotten his second dose. We are finally approaching the light at the end of the tunnel. But over the course of this year, a lot of people's diets have been affected.

How did quarantine, and especially as a mom, how did quarantine affect what you were eating in your home? Well, we started cooking quite a bit more. It's very... Very basic. But we used to be frozen dinner or lean cuisine kind of people, and both my husband and I started dieting. Well, no.

I say started. My whole life, I've been on and off diets. And I know that people are like, diet is four-letter word. So for those who feel that way, I'm sorry, I just used a four-letter word. But maybe I should say, try to get healthier. I don't know. So my husband started cooking a lot more, and we got out. Instant pot and got an air fryer.

So there's been, I would say, more time spent on meal prep. There's also been... The first restaurant that I went to in this entire time was the one that I went to for this show. So I hadn't had a meal at a restaurant, even outdoors this whole time. And let's see. But the kids pretty much the same, except for involving them in more cooking. So you actually...

And we'll get into this in a bit, but you actually ate at the restaurant. I did. I did outdoors. Wow. Yes. And I mean, it was a whole odyssey to get a table. Should I save that? Yeah.

Well, we'll talk about that in a bit, but I haven't even... I haven't eaten out, and I've eaten... I've gotten Chipotle, and then I found a park bench and sat at a park bench and eaten my Chipotle, but I haven't sat down at a restaurant with table service. Mitch, have you done that during this lockdown? I'm trying to think of... I feel like I may be eight outdoors. When I first came back, I went to a place in Quincy outside, like me and Wu Tang and

Joey Oh, and Mike has watched a Celtics game outside, and there was literally no one else there. Scoop was busy. Scoop was off doing his own thing. Right. Nobody wasn't there. Fluckston was gone. But the four of us were outside.

I feel like... Hmm. Oh, no. When I went to New Haven and got some pizzas, I did sit outside and eat pizza. I haven't been inside, but I don't know. In that sort of sense, not really, but I'd be down to eat outdoors now that the weather is nicer. I'm vaxed, and I'm in.

I'm in to do it. In two weeks? Yeah, that's what I... I realized, because it used to be such a... Like Allison, our habits changed quite a bit. We would go to a restaurant two nights a week. That was a regular part. I mean, that's part of why we have a podcast about chain restaurants.

You and I like going out to eat, and so not doing that at all anymore, and then also cooking a lot more, like basically filling in those gaps with more at-home meals. Was a big shift, and I wonder how much of that is going to be retained or how much of that is going to be... We're going to be able to greatly slide back into our old habits and go have a table in the parking lot at islands that's been turned into a impromptu outdoor seating. I wonder if I'm going to do that immediately. A lot of parking lots turn into outdoor seating.

It's very interesting. I wonder that about a lot of things, like a lot of our lifestyle during this pandemic, how much of it will stay. My husband, who used to go into an office, has been working at home this whole time, and I don't know that they even have plans to go back. Wow. Yeah. I've wondered that too.

It's a lot of rent for big buildings downtown. It feels like a lot of people are just going to... When some of these corporate offices realize that they can just make people work at home, I think that they probably will do that. For me, I think that once this pandemic is over, I'll go outside like 2% to 3% more than I did in this last year. Same. I'll be outside just a couple more times.

Right. So what do you go to at-home meals, Allison, and what do you like to cook? So I have been... I flirt with no carbs periodically. I'll go on phases where I'll do no carbs for a period of time, and then I'll go back to carbs, and then none, and then back. So right now, with the exception of the meal that I had for the show, I've been pretty no-carby.

So it's been a lot of hard-boiled eggs and hard-boiled egg whites, and it's going to sound so gross when I talk about it. Okay. So I make hard-boiled eggs, and then I take the yolks out, and then I take a laughing cow cheese, and I put a little bit of laughing cow cheese in each half of the hard-boiled egg white, and then I... Where the yolk was? Yeah.

Wow. Wow. Anokey yolk. Anokey-dokey yolk. Wags, take the yolk out. Yeah. And then I take Trader Joe's umami seasoning, and I put that on there. I put some turkey in there.

Wow. I know I'm losing credibility as someone with a mouth and taste buds right now, but I've been enjoying it lately. It's surprisingly filling. It sounds like a frankeneg. It's very much your own kind of... You've created a bit of a monster, but it sounds delicious. It could be very good.

It's surprisingly good. Yeah. When described, it sounds like an abomination, I agree with Mitch, but then I bet I'm sure when I took a bite of it, I'd be like, oh, this is fantastic. I wouldn't go that far, but it's pretty good. I find it pretty good. I weirdly find myself craving it. Right.

Well, I think pretty good is a good... If you can hit pretty good with a, especially like a quickly prepared at home lunch, you're sitting pretty. I mean, we're not going for glory there, we're just trying to get something that gets the job done. Right. And then also I went... So I'm a person, I go through phases.

I'm not a big mix it up person. I'm a big like, I'm super into this and I stick with this and then I'm super into that. I think you guys know what phases means and variety. I don't know why I'm breaking it down on such a granular level. But anyway, I also was in like an egg white omelet or egg white scramble phase for a really long time. But then I just kind of was like, I can't do it anymore. Yeah.

Yeah. I've done similar phases with scramble specifically where like that was like, oh, this is like a daily breakfast or a daily lunch. I'm just having a scramble with spinach and some cheese and like a little bit of avocado or something. And I was having... I would have that every day. And then your point was like, I don't want this ever.

I don't want this anymore at all. I don't want to think about this and I don't know why. My mom will make me eggs. So say, Mikey, you want some eggies as I wake up and I say, yes, mother. And then she will cook me up some eggs. And she'll... So the way she'll do it, usually she'll like use just one egg with the yolk and then she'll pour in some egg whites.

The... Everyone wants to get rid of the yolk. It makes sense. The yolk is the bad part. It's not good for you. But just a straight white egg, straight up egg whites, I don't love. I mean, if you do it with cheesewags, if you make an omelet out of it, it can be okay. But damn, I love that yolk.

I love that yolk. Yeah. That's where the flavor is, I find. Yeah. It's sad when you take it out. It's it bums me out. I need a little yolk. I'm like all yolk.

I need the yolk. And like, I will... I mean, not that I'll get rid of the whites and just cook up the yolk part, but I'm like, I just don't like egg whites at all, even though I really like scrambled eggs or scrambled or an omelet. But if I get egg whites in there, I feel like they're so flavorless. They kind of are. Where are you guys with hard-boiled eggs?

Because I think that Jordan, all of our friends, Jordan Morris, that sentence didn't... That was incorrect, but you know what I'm saying. Jordan Morris, whom we all know, I think he tweeted something about like, if someone, you know, like a good way to torture him into spilling everything he knows would be to eat a hard-boiled egg in front of him. Oh, interesting. Wow. And my husband feels similarly, and yet I am making them all the time.

I mean, it is just nonstop farts in this house. Wow. You know, I used to share an office with Jordan Morris, my first TV writing job, and that would be a breakfast I would bring from home is two hard-boiled eggs in the office. So that may have been a long-delayed sub-tweet. He still thinks about it constantly. Yeah, it is a revolting thing, too. Like, I love eating hard-boiled eggs, but being around the smell of hard-boiled eggs

and when I'm not eating them is disgusting. I can completely relate to that. Sure. I think there is a thing of like, I think there is a thing if you're bringing the hard-boiled eggs to work and then you're like cracking them open and doing the whole process, maybe that's a little bit grosser. Maybe maybe have maybe maybe bring them in. Did you did you bring yours in pre-crack?

Did you crack them beforehand or no? I eventually moved the process to the break room. So I wasn't I wasn't bothering everyone. So everyone was mad at you. This is clearly what happened. They reached a point where somebody said something and so I was like, OK, so this has been bothering people for a while. And so then after that, I took it to the break room.

Who said what did they say? I think it was just like, oh, whoa, buddy, hard-boiled eggs. OK, like just something kind of like that. Dear Lord. Yeah. How did did you feel super embarrassed? I yeah, I felt I felt more guilt than everything. I was like, oh, this has been an imposition on everybody.

And I try to be a I try to it like if I'm even if I'm not going to pull my weight like as an employee, I at least trying to not make anybody's life less pleasant. So I'm like, I kind of fucked up. I made everyone have like kind of a bummer of a morning every day, having to breathe in these egg fumes. And then people were like, great, you told Wiger about the egg things. And now he uses a stall every time he goes in there and does his thing. Sitting in there just using a fucking crack in his eggs, opening a stall.

You go to the bathroom, you just hear like tick, tick, tick. A line of people waiting to use it. Oh, man. What what what $100 a week job was this wise that you worked? This was for fuel TVs, the daily habit. Wow. Yeah. It was a non-union TV writing job. I worked with Jordan Morris.

How was that? It was like Jessica Joe Boat on that. Was there aren't there's like some early like the host was Pat Parnell. Lovely man, lovely man, former professional inline skater who transitioned to broadcasting. How about that? That's great. Yeah, yeah, don't do that.

Don't crack your eggs open. Yeah, I should have done it. Yeah, you shouldn't have. It's fucking disgusting. Lesson learned. You guys, I'm sitting here feeling a little bit embarrassed slash vulnerable slash exposed about revealing my pretty gross hardboiled egg white meal that I've been making.

When what do people normally say when you ask them? Because I feel like I should have been like, oh, I've been making sourdough and fresh buttermilk pancakes. We're so worn out with that. We've gotten so much of that. OK, I like I like your egg creation. That's like an intro. That's an interesting answer.

I don't think you should feel self-conscious about it. Also, anyone who listens to this podcast, here's what we put in our bodies. Me and Mitch, and we're the worst offenders, so I don't know. I'm pretty cool, actually. I think I think I do all right. In fact, I want to revise my my virginity answer. I was much younger than what I said. OK, yeah, that my sense was you said that to make me feel better.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was I was like, geez, right? I was like a toddler. God, it's weird in. In another word, it's worse. Fuck. God damn it. All right, moving on. Why? Alison, you said this before. You said this before the episode started, but you said I just I just want to.

This can be a tease, but you said before the episode started that this experience at Olive Garden was different than it had been. And and you said that we could count down from three because I said that me and why is kind of talked about this, too. But if you want to, I think before we get to reviewing it, maybe we should count down from three and say like what we thought, like like what you think we're all on the same page with. Or maybe we're not, if that makes sense.

So just spoil what our view is. I mean, I don't I don't think that's going to spoil the the fork score. But I think I think it will be interesting to say like three, two, one. Why was it different than your usual visits? OK, so we're we're counting down from three and then saying in unison what the answer is. Like like how it subverted our expectations. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Like what was different about your normal visits from there? And look, it might be a jumble mess. We might all say different things, but that's OK. But it's possible we all think it's possible that we all say the same thing. All right. What was different from Olive Garden than our expectations? We will say in unison counting down from three. Three, two, one. We'll be back with more dough boys. Wow.

Previously on Dough Boys. All right, we will count down from three and say in unison what we found different at this Olive Garden experience. Three, two, one. It was good. Oh, OK. Wow. Whoa. Me and Weigart were me and Weigart were kind of on the same page. Yes.

But you, Allison, you had something completely different. This is not a. Red sticks weren't good. Yeah. Wow. So wait, did you guys say that you thought it was better? Yeah. Yeah. Better than previous visits. We reviewed this a couple of times on the podcast and both times. I think especially the last time it was like not great.

But I got the food from that time then. OK. My experience, I was like, I was like, this is a lot better than I expected and a lot better than my, you know, than my ex, I'm saying the same thing. Better than my expectations, better than I expected. But the Olive Garden founded in 1982 in Orlando owned by Darden Restaurants, which owns Longhorn Steakhouse and Yard House and used to own Red Lobster and has 900 locations in North America and the Middle East.

And part of why I felt like it was better than my expectations, better than I expected, again, saying the same thing twice, is that I'm not eating meat this year. No meat shall I eat. And so from a vegetarian perspective, and as a place where you can indulge, this is a great vegetarian option. It's it's got pasta and pizza and sides. And it's got, you know, the breadsticks, minestrone soup and salad with olive oil and vinegar are all vegan.

All three of those are vegan. So if you're so if you've got that diet, you want to indulge, that's a good meal right there. Breadsticks, minestrone soup and salad, assuming you get good breadsticks and not the ones that Allison got. So that was why it was better from my perspective. How about you, Mitchell? What what caused it to soar above your expectations?

I've said this before, but like Olive Garden was not a place I went at all when I was younger. It was not like it was not a place that I that I frequented ever. And there was like in Quincy, when I was growing up, there were a lot of good like Red Sauce Italian restaurants. And so there was no need to ever go to Olive Garden. Yes. And every time that I've like tried Olive Garden, I've always kind of thought it was bad, like a not great too bad. And honestly, I usually think the breadsticks have a weird taste,

a weird aftertaste to them. But guess what? This time, I'm just going to say it right off the bat, Wags. It was the it was the best olive gardens ever tasted to me. It was it. Wow. It was good. I like genuinely was like, this is fucking good. I'm shocked. I bet we've been on a bit of a Doe Boys role lately with some restaurants.

Yes. We've had some good ones. We've had we've had some we've had some good ones or at least good experiences. I never expected this to be to be good at all. It was it it really blew my mind. I fully agree. I like I think I think Olive Garden kind of honestly kind of sucks. I want to I want to the one in Stoughton.

But I'm telling you, I my mom and I, we drove out to the one in Stoughton. I use the app, which, by the way, the app's pretty good. Very sleek app. The app works great. We drove to Stoughton and we pull in and the order isn't ready yet. So we sit like in this in this parking lot and I'm like, I'm going to go in.

I go in and while I was pulling up, my mom and I were like, the building looks really nice. It's like a really nice building. It looks like this looks like that this olive garden looks nicer than like a lot of restaurants. I go to walk in. It's actually a smoky bones bar and grill. I was at the wrong restaurant. That's why it looked good.

It was just a wrong restaurant. And then I was like, oh, it's like one thing over. So we I got in the car and we drove a little ways over to the. It was just like in the same complex, but it was just the wrong building. You know, that building looked nice, too. I mean, it was a nice complex. It looked like a newer Olive Garden. It looked it if it was normal times,

I would definitely wouldn't mind sitting in there and eating. But the food was ready in time and wags. I ordered quite a bit and there wasn't a thing missing. It was all there. Yeah, travel. It traveled decently well. Did travel well, at least minded. And the food was fucking good.

It this crazy thing of. I don't think I had a bad thing. The thing that the thing that was the biggest letdown to me. I guess I'll just say it, which a thing I usually like there. The salad, the salad just had like the lettuce, had like a little bit of like a fridge, like in the fridge, too long taste. But every single thing I got was good. Should I should I get into what I got?

Let's get into it. All right, let's roll. Let's roll with it. Um, I got a couple apps. I got the mozzarella sticks, which comes with some with some marinara sauce. And then I also got, uh, hmm, hold on here. I'm trying to look. Here it is.

I also got, and by the way, the mozzarella sticks are actually called fried mozzarella. They're not mozzarella sticks, but they are essentially mozzarella sticks. I also got the stuffed ZD Frida. And that's basically ZD stuffed with cheese and deep fried. And that comes with Alfredo sauce and marinara. Um, then we got some dipping sauce for the breadsticks because they include breadsticks with meals, but you can, you can order a thing of breadsticks or you can get the dipping sauce and then that comes with a few breadsticks.

So we got some marinara sauce, uh, with the, with for the breadsticks. You get four breadsticks with that. And then for our mains, we got my mom got an eggplant parmesan and that comes with a side salad and she got angel hair pasta with it. And I got the Torah of Italy, which has lasagna, fettuccine, Alfredo and chicken parm. Yeah. And then I also, I got, I got the house salad with that as well. And then we also just got as another for another, for another meal to just try.

We got the five cheese ZD Al Forno and that also came with a salad. And I got myself a raspberry lemonade. Um, I gotta say the breadsticks were nice and warm and fresh and they didn't have that aftertaste. I was shocked. Alison, I don't, I like everyone is like, I love the breadsticks at Olive Garden. I never have, I never have liked them. Whatever happened, it was just a good cook today.

They really knocked it out of the park. I don't understand it. Burbank Empire Center did not get the memo or the new recipe or whatever, because my experience was very much what you talk about how it was last time. Right. I wanted these good breadsticks, but I did not get them. But I'll get into that when it's my turn. I'm truly shocked.

Like a restaurant I've just truly never cared about and never gotten like when people were like, yeah, Olive Garden soup, like a salad and breadsticks. I'm like, I don't think it's, I don't think it's good. It's just it's never, it's never worked for me ever. And we were dipping it in this marinara sauce and my mom was like, this marinara is good. And I was like, you know what, the marinara sauce is good. I don't know what's going on.

I was, I was confused. Right. I didn't get it. I don't even like that I liked it, but I did like it. And it wasn't even like a thing that I was starving or something. It just, it just, it just was really hitting the tour of Italy. The, I say, I would say the fettuccine Alfredo was the one that was kind of the one that traveled the like, uh, travel the worst.

It was not, it was kind of like a little bit that the fett, the Alfredo sauce, they kind of like stiffened up on it a bit, but it was, it was still good. And the chicken parm was great. Nick, it was a great chicken parm and it was thick. I don't even like thick chicken parm because I like a nice thinner patty, but it was good that there was a crispy outside. It was, it was fucking fantastic. And the lasagna also great.

I was shocked. Like I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was questioning when I was going to eat something bad. The answer was like the salad, but the salad wasn't terrible. It was just okay because of the, the lettuce quality. Right. Um, my mom's eggplant parmesan. It was a little bit watery. She thought, but she still thought it was tasty.

And the angel ham pasta was good. And then I liked, my mom did not like the five cheese ZDL for no, she just didn't think it had enough flavor. But I thought it was pretty good if that's what you wanted to go for. It was like, it's like a, a cheesy tomato we sauce and it's, and it's pretty decent. The raspberry lemonade also pretty great. It was, it was, I mean, like it's sweet. It's, it doesn't taste as homemade as it should,

but it was better than I thought it was going to be. Right. It didn't taste like a minute made out of the, out of, out of the, whatever, the soda fountain it tasted like it tasted pretty good. And then finally we got a dessert. We got the chocolate brownie lasagna. And that was, that was pretty good too. It didn't taste as much of as a brownie like a dig cake.

It just tasted like cake, but I was, I was shocked. I, I, I, I've, I've never liked this place. I've never even gotten it. And I, and it delivered on like a good red sauce Italian dinner night. I, I never, I never thought it would. We're sort of seeing how much the expectations game comes into play in terms of our overall assessment because I think you and I, Mitch, both are, are going to like this place more just because we weren't expecting much

and it, but it's still delivered. But Allison, you, the, the, the breadsticks were disappointing. I want to hear about that and your meal in general. So you went to the Burbank, Burbank location. Yes. So I wanted to find one that had outdoor seating. So I called the head on a different day and they said they had outdoor seating and I said, do I need a reservation or can I just show up?

And she was like, Oh, you can just show up. And then my husband, Daniel overheard me and he laughed at this notion of a reservation at Olive Garden cut to, we show up at like four o'clock on Sunday. And I see clusters of people sort of waiting outside and I go up and they tell me it is going to be two and a half hours for a table. Holy shit. Two and a half hours. Yes.

We have a babysitter until six that day. So I, the only bright side of this was that I was like, you mocked me for this notion of a reservation, but look, but it turns out they don't take reservations. So we go back to the car and we, I start calling other Olive gardens and I called probably like five or six Olive, Arcadia, West Hills, like every Olive Garden, anywhere nearby, and they were all between an hour and a half to two and a half hour waits. Wow. I did not see that coming.

I'm telling you, they're hitting it. They're really hitting it right now. Everyone's getting in there. It makes sense. And also, can I just apologize on Nick's behalf and me too that your night out is to the Olive garden. You're not, you're. Yeah.

Sorry. No, no worries. Bumps me out. I did it to myself. This podcast. No, that's our fault. So I go, we go back up and we are planning to just place an order to go. And I asked to see a menu, but I noticed that there's like a lot of empty tables now.

And I say to them, is it, and I hear them calling people on the phone like, your table's ready. And I say to them, is it possible that it, you know, some of these people aren't going to show up. And she's like, oh, and she shows me like the list of names, but it's going to take a while. And then, and I don't know, I don't know how you guys feel about this. I hope you're into it. I say to them, are you familiar with the Doughboys podcast? This is through masks and everything. Wow.

Wow. And then I felt I was desperate because I had to have this meal before I talked to you guys. This could, this could not have worked. I can't believe. Well, they look at me very blankly. I don't even know, I don't know if they know what a podcast. I'm not sure they were podcast listeners. And then I say, well, it's a podcast where we talk about chain restaurants,

and I'm going on an episode and we're going to talk about Olive Garden. And this like changed their demeanor. So then, wow, I, they take my name, but at this point, I talked to Jordan Morris, the one I mentioned before, the one who doesn't like your eggs. Right. And he tells me that like, it's, you know, it's totally fine to just do takeout. So that I'm like, we'll just do, we'll just do the app. We'll just do takeout.

Hey, Allison. Yes. When you, when you text Jordan, does he refer to Wiger as Eggman by any chance? Yes. He sent the egg emoji. So let me go back in the car and we're trying to figure out what to order. And then like 10 minutes later, so now instead of two and a half hours, it's been, you know, 15 minutes has elapsed.

They call me and our table is ready. Wow. So I don't know if I, because then I get out though and I'm like, uh-oh, what if like they serve us different food because I mentioned that we're like reviewing or something, you know, the real top tier Olive Garden food. Well, that didn't happen. I honestly think it was just that all these people didn't show up because they tell people it's going to be two and a half, they take their name.

So anyway, and I also wonder a little bit if because of social distancing, they're giving people, they're artificially spacing people out. We go in, I go inside and use the restaurant. This is my first time inside a restaurant in over a year. On the couches, there are signs. They have the couches taped off, like the couches in the front where you sit and wait for your table. And it says social distancing is temporary, family is forever.

That's nice. We sit down and I order the soup, salad and breadsticks and Daniel orders chicken, marsala and a side of the, the fettuccine Alfredo sauce for the breadsticks. And I got minestrone soup and that was actually quite good. You know, I dipped my spoon and I pulled out Italian green bean, which is one of my favorite beans. I never see them fresh. They're like those kind of flat beans.

So the minestrone was good. The salad was, I don't have, it was fine. It was different than mitches. I don't have complaints about it. It was actually fairly fresh. And then the breadstick, because in the same way you're no meat, shall I eat? Like I said, I've been like, no carb, shall I snarf? But I was like, going in, I'm like, how am I going to avoid these, you know,

how am I going to handle the breadsticks? I'm, I, I'm going to find them, they're going to be so good. I'm going to eat like 4 million breadsticks because they're just so good. That's my memory of them. Once you start, you can't stop. The edge of the breadstick, the edges were hard. I don't know if it was overcooked or if it was stale. The middle was like palatable, but it just, I felt like we got breadsticks.

They had cooked that morning or something or reheated or I don't know. The Alfredo sauce was kind of congealing. I took a bite of my husband's Fettuccine Alfredo and it still had like a good rich creaminess, but it tasted, you know, when you get room service in a hotel and everything has like a sterno smell and taste, had that. And his chicken was like, tasted like, you know, a lean cuisine. And we left both of us going like, I don't think I ever need to go to Olive Garden again. So did you, did they have that weird chemical aftertaste, the breadsticks?

Because that is, I usually have like a weird aftertaste with the breadsticks and I didn't have it at all this time. They were tasting good. I didn't notice an aftertaste, just a depressing disappointment. Oh, I forgot though, because it is bottomless soup. She asked, you know, would you like more soup? And at this point, I was already very full from the salad, I think. But I switched to pasta, I believe it is pronounced, I read that it's pronounced

pasta fizzol, even though it is spelled pasta e fizzoli. And that, unlike the minestrone, which I have to say was quite good, that was not very good. It was like kind of had like a chili, a spicy chili flavor and was like a little bit oily and separated and not great. Wow. Despite, you know, the pretty big menu, we actually had a lot of overlap between the three of us.

And I think it's maybe that we were all gravitating towards kind of Italian classics. I am going to share this tab with you real quick, where I've got the, just so you can get a sense of what I was looking at as someone who is trying not to, you know, again, not eating meat and being conscious of sometimes at these restaurants, it's a challenge to find out what actually fits your diet. Like someone fucking nailed me on social media for having raising cane sauce, which is a secret sauce. The ingredients are not disclosed, but they said, hey, that has Worcester in it,

which sometimes has anchovies. So I'm like, well, this is, again, this is how impossible it is to try to eat at these chain restaurants when you're trying to eat vegetarian. Hey, Wags. Yeah. Worcester. You have to divine the ingredients in a secret sauce in advance of consumption, but Olive Garden, contra that Olive Garden is fucking great.

And in terms of accommodating people's diets, at least in the information they provide for you on the website. So let me go ahead and share this real quick. So what I'm showing here is we'll see that it's got the menu items divided by category. And then it lists whether it's vegetarian or vegan, contains egg and contains dairy. And so again, like I'm saying, breadstick with garlic topping, minestrone soup, and the famous house salad, as long as you get the olive oil and balsamic instead of the default dressing are all vegan.

A lot of the pastas naturally are going to be vegan. Some are vegetarian, Alfredo sauce, you know, it's all broken down by sauces because you can make your own pasta. We see some of the entrees listed here. Even the desserts that shows which ones are vegetarian and vegan. Apparently, the chocolate lasagna that you got, Mitch, is fucking has meat in it or something because that one is not listed under the vegetarian dessert options. Yeah, I don't know what they threw like a fucking some sausage in there or something.

I actually asked them to add that, so maybe they had to change it on the menu after. But again, you know, spaghetti with marinara sauce is vegan. That's an American classic, Italian American classic dish. And if you want to go out and you're, you know, with the family and that's your diet, I mean, it's nice that they accommodate that. So I give it points for that. I also give it points for the app. And I give it points for their COVID pickup system.

It was a mall location I went to, but they still had a great, you know, a great little drop off table. It was very, very organized. When a place really has figured that out, I'm in favor of it. I got, I went for lunch and I got two lunch combos for one man. So I got the lunch combo was a lunch size pasta, two breadsticks and super salad for $9.49, which is a pretty good deal for a working man's lunch. And then I also got the, uh, the Bellini peach raspberry iced tea.

You got the lemonade. That's right, Mitch. Yep. Okay. So I got the peach raspberry iced tea. I drank this on the drive home because it was a hot day and I'd worked out before. And I expected this to be sickly sweet. Sounds like bullshit.

Fuck him. I'm just saying, I got to, I got to work out in and, uh, What kind of workout? You're so vague. Like, oh, you know, just some fitness, some general fitness. Fucking worked out your wrists. Ha, ha, ha. This one, I will say, I expected this to be sickly sweet, but it wasn't.

It was a, it was more fragrant fruity than super sweets, more, more like a snapple than like a sweet tea, which is kind of what I wanted. So I thought, I thought it was nice. So it does exceed my expectations. So here's the thing with the breadsticks. You get two breadsticks with each lunch combo. Also, they seem to just throw extra breadsticks in there, just in general. And I got myself a, uh, a breadsticks with marinara dip and sauce as like a side,

as like an appetizer, because there actually aren't a lot of vegetarian and vegan appetizers at Olive Garden, but you can't just order the dip and sauce. They give you more breadsticks. So I had 12 breadsticks for one man. That's too many breadsticks. I can't get through 12 breadsticks. What do I mean? What am I going to do with them?

You're mad at this? This is a user error. What's the deal? I just think there should be a way to order the dip and sauce. A la carte, as opposed to having to get it as part of the breadsticks appetizer, but I guess that's how they price it in. It's funny because they gave me like the exact number of breadsticks. I believe that like there was four that came with the dip and sauces.

You can choose four or six or four or eight. I forget. And then also I think that was like, you get two additional breadsticks per meal. That's what I ran into. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, guess what? You got all these, but you got a bunch of, you got extra breadsticks.

Shut up. Why are you crying about it? I had a different menu than I did because ours, and I don't know if it's a weekend thing, but it's like it was just, they didn't give, I don't think they gave you an option of four or six breadsticks. It was just sauce that was like small or large. And it was just the sauce that you were ordering, I think. Maybe it's different in the app.

I could not find a way to just order the dip and sauce. Yeah. To go order, I think it would be, I think it is a little different. Yeah. But I will say, if you can get that dip and sauce, it's a great accompaniment for breadsticks. It's like a, it's a great breadstick companion. I had the five cheese marinara and it was, it was delightful.

I also got the fettuccine alfredo. And that one, and it got, and I had that with a famous house salad. I thought the salad was fine. I didn't, you know, it didn't blow me away. I did force myself to eat the entire salad before I ate anything else. I was like, first things first, I'm eating the salad. I'm finishing the salad. Whatever I do to my body after this is fair game,

but the salad is the price for entry. So I ate the whole salad. Hey, sometimes they eat that salad afterwards. Isn't that what the Italians do? Yeah, but you hate them. I do hate them. I mean, it shows how, it shows how fucking backwards they are, but it can be good for, it can be good for digestion, right?

If you eat the salad last. Yeah, I think that's the idea. But I just was like, if I'm going to, I'm going to get full at some point. So let me get full off of salad, mostly salad, and then try to limit the amount of pasta that I'm having. The fettuccine is, I thought the lunch portion is a manageable, sensible portion. It was, my character of this, characterization of this was heavy, but worth it. I also got the eggplant parm, Mitch, and I got this with the minestrone.

I like the minestrone quite a bit. I agree. I like the beans a lot. I do think it maybe could have used, at least mine could have used a little bit more seasoning. But man, what a well packaged to go soup. I got this. I was like, this didn't spill at all. This is completely sealed. This is like such a great way of,

usually when I'm getting to go soup, it's a catastrophe. I'm just getting, you know, it's just all over the place. This was completely contained. They've really figured that out. How did they do it? I was wondering about that. It was just like, it was just like a perfect little plastic container that just had a snug little top just kind of fastened in there.

It was, it felt secured like a child's bottle of aspirin. Like it's like you had to kind of really work it to get out of there. Yeah. It felt vacuum sealed. I was impressed. Bitch, did you get it to go soup? I did not get it to go soup. No, but I thought the packaging was great. Like I said, Wags, they didn't make it.

There was not a single mistake was made. They had every single thing accounted for. I was very impressed. The eggplant parm, I was less enthusiastic about than Mama Mitchell, and I hate to disagree with her. But she thought it tasted good, but she'd probably agree. She likes hers thinner and crispier. Yeah. I feel like the breading was good.

It was not, I thought it was going to be too oily and not travel well, but it was okay. But I do think that my main issue was the marinara sauce, I didn't think was particularly flavorful. I thought it was just like a really, it just seemed like tomato sauce. It just seemed like it didn't have a lot going on. So I don't know, I didn't love the eggplant parm. I certainly preferred the fettuccine.

When I went back to like, what am I going to finish? For me, it was eating more breadsticks with that dip in sauce and polishing off the fettuccine. Well, Wags, my mom was using that dip in sauce, the marinara dip in sauce to put on the eggplant parm. She was enjoying the sauce. Yeah, that probably would have helped it. That probably would have helped it,

because that sauce definitely had a little bit more character to it. And I got a tiramisu, which was more of a tiramisu flavored cake than an actual tiramisu. It was like an Entenmann's tiramisu, but it was still okay. I was like, this is fine. This is, as an add-on is a little sweet treat at the end of the meal. This is fine. I wouldn't get it to go again,

but if I was dining in, sure I might consider it. But overall, I was pretty enthusiastic about my Olive Garden experience again, especially from a vegetarian perspective. I'm shocked. I'm shocked and angry. Yeah, I'm angry on your behalf. I'm angry too. We want our guests to have a great experience, most of all.

But I mean, like you pointed out earlier, how much is this, how much are expectations figuring into this? Because the two of you had pretty negative or low expectations of Olive Garden. Whereas my feeling about it was like, oh yeah, Olive Garden, it's pretty, it's almost like a guilty pleasure. Like you don't feel great about it, but it's fine. It's indulgent and it's fine. And so then I was just surprised when it was so lackluster.

Yeah, I think I was probably, my original assessment of Olive Garden was more in your camp. Like back before we reviewed it for the podcast a couple of times, and then revisiting it, I was like, oh, maybe this has kind of fallen off a little bit. Maybe just this location at their act together. I don't know. I was going to say that my thoughts on it is like, it sucks.

Like I always thought that it just is bad. So I was shocked, blown away, you could say. Well, how will that factor into our assessments of the Olive Garden? We should get to our final thoughts. Allison, you've done the podcast before, but a refresher, we'll each go around, give our closing argument, if you will, on the Olive Garden, and end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks. You are our guest.

We'll begin with you. All right. Olive Garden, I wanted to like you. I wanted to walk out of there being like, oh no, I ate too many delicious breadsticks. Instead, I didn't even finish one breadstick. Oh my God. I just soup your salad.

Wow. Your salad. I appreciated that there were some whole black olives in there, and I appreciated that it seemed fresh enough. But the rest of everything was pretty not good. And I don't know if I changed. I don't know if you changed. I suspect you changed.

Get it together, Olive Garden. I want to like you, but you make it so hard. Wow. In sum, I give you two forks. Whoa. Wow. I'm sorry. Wow.

Sorry. I was so intensely personal. I know. I know that closing arguments aren't always delivered to the restaurant, but I just felt impassioned. I loved it. All right, Mitch, what do you think? I'm going to go off of my experience last night.

I haven't had a ton of Olive Garden experiences anyways. Like I said, I don't love it. I love local Red Sauce Italian places. I'm a big fan where you can get a fucking giant chicken parm and some spaghetti and be on your way and a nice little side salad. I don't even like the name Olive Garden. Why put olives on display?

I don't love olives. There's a lot that I just don't never liked about this place. But wigs, maybe it's Italians coming for me because I give them such a hard time on the podcast and they really fucking showed up because Olive Garden, of course, is an Italian restaurant that is near and dear to Italians' hearts. But we'll make it a good meal for a Mitch.

He'll come around. Well, whoever was preparing it back there when they were putting it in their fucking weird ass ovens, taking it out of their fucking weird plastic fucking envelopes that they keep it in, I know it's like I know all these chain restaurants have weird shit like that where it's just in a fucking plastic bag.

Whoever was doing it did it well. It was the best Olive Garden experience I've ever had. And also, it just was plain good. Wigs, mamma mia, marron. I'm going for forks. Wow. Whoa, forks. I know.

I had a good time. It was, I've never, I'm shocked. Everything I had was good. Every single thing I had was good. The salad was my bite of the night, probably that chicken parm. I thought the chicken parm was way better than I thought it would be. I was blown away. It tasted good.

We're on a weird dope boys' roll and you know what? Italians, you know, so bad after all. Wow. Wow. If you've changed Mitch's heart on this issue, I mean, you've really done your work, Olive Garden. I will say that it's, I'm not going to, I'm not as emphatic. I'm not as, you know, not, wasn't quite as blown away as you, Mitch,

but it did exceed my expectations. And this is, and I will also say, a thing you run into a lot of times with vegetarian eating is like you'll go to some place and like the veg, they'll have a veggie burger, but the veggie burger will have like no cheese and like sprouts and like, you know, some weird relish. Like it'll be like a healthy version of a burger when it's like, I want the fucking trash. Like I want the impossible whopper.

I want the thing that's garbage. And what I like about the Olive Garden from a vegetarian perspective is you can be indulgent and be vegetarian or even vegan. And it's pretty easy to do. Like it's not hard to have to cobble together a satisfying meal that's going to be super heavy and make you feel like shit, but is going to absolutely scratch that itch when you want this sort of Italian-American food. And I know part of that speaks to just sort of like the character of Italian-American cuisine

in general, which is just so heavy with cheese and, you know, tomato sauces and pasta. These are things that are naturally vegetarian. You can make do without a protein pretty easily. But I give it credit for that. And I also give it credit for the the app, which again was very sleek, very well designed and also very, very easy to see what options are going to fit your diet. So I'm going to split the difference with a little bit of a nudge towards the Mitch end of things.

Because again, it was it was better than I expected. I'm going to say three forks two times, three and a half forks. Wow, G the Olive Garden. Such range. It was I'm I'm shocked. Yeah, this is this is the most shocked. Maybe I've ever been at it. No boys episode.

I don't I don't like Olive Garden. And I know giving it four forks is high, but I got it. That's what it was a four fork meal. I had a blast. This is the most shocked I've ever been in my life. Not even just in my life. And I've been through a lot, you guys. I've seen a lot of things that are I would call quote unquote shocking.

This is I don't know if I'll recover. Wow. Alison, I got to ask you. Was there an animal table at the Olive Garden you went to? Like I can't believe what people there was not an animal table, but there was a table where someone was celebrating a birthday and everyone was singing and they were like getting their phone out and taking pictures.

And that was interesting to me. I have a question for that person. Go boy. Yeah, god damn it. It was go boy. That's what I was going to ask. Happy birthday. We'll be back with more Doe Boys.

Welcome back to Doe Boys. We are here with our guest, Alison Rosen. Hi, Alison. Hello. You know, Alison, you and our listeners know me as the burger boy, Nick Weiger. Wow. But many may not know my full legal name is Nicholas Frank Weiger.

And sometimes I go by Frank. That's right. It's time to review this week in Hot Dog News in another edition of Let Me Be Frank. Hot dog simmering in the city. Great on my grill, getting greasy and gritty. Toast bone, don't it look pretty? Sucking on a dog like you're sucking on a titty.

Pork and beef, sausages and long bread. Rolling on a rolling grill, mustard and bread-ish. One bite, it's a different world. Swap dog bites with a girl. Munch on, munch on and chop all night. Despite the parts, it'll be all right, that taste. When the casing has snapped, later that day, you'll for sure have to nap as it simmers in the city.

Like you're sucking on a titty. You ain't nothing but a hot dog. Frying all the time. You ain't nothing but a hot dog. Frying all the time. You ain't never been a burger and you ain't no lunch of mine. They said you a sandwich. Well, that was just a lie.

Yeah, they said you a sandwich. Well, that was just a lie. You just have fun around a wiener, so you sure don't qualify. Huff, have some 니 один которую. Why grew was cut in every link between himself and the hot dog world, and by link I mean actual hot dog links. But I had nothing to do with me, he was a vegetarian now, so I gave Weiger the Google news about hot dogs and he gave me some Patreon money.

From then on I kept my mouth shut. I knew Weiger, he had the do-a-thon cash, it was his. I know he kicked some money upstairs to Emma, but that was it. It made him sick to have to turn money over to those actual charities, he'd rather whack off, just sit inside all day and jack it. Anyway, what did I care? I wasn't asking for anything and besides, I was making bar pizzas with Dano through my Quincy connections.

But still, for months after the do-a-thon, they were finding bodies all over. By the time they found Sustrum the hot dog cart, his body was so swelled up, it took them two days to cut him out, and that's before he even ate a single hot dog. Still, I never saw Weiger so happy. He was like a kid, he even wore a spinny hat and had a big lollipop. I had drops coming in through DK and my Dosecourt people, and after a while, even the Rob Lowe thing began to come down. But the thing that made Weiger so happy that morning was that this was the day Usong was

being made. He was joining the WGA. Weiger was so excited, you think he just saw John Hamm's hug? He must have made four calls to Usong's house. This is a guy who doesn't even use his phone on Sundays. So he had the signal set up with Phyllis Nagy so he'd know the minute the ceremony was over. You know, we always called each other do-boys.

Like you said to somebody, you're not going to like this guy. He's not funny. He's a do-boy. He really sucks. You understand? We were do-boys, fat guys. Weiger and I couldn't join the WGA because podcasts are stupid and they aren't covered by the union yet.

It's some old school hollyweird shit. To become a member of the WGA, you got to actually write stuff down in a script, not just talking to a microphone about a subject you aren't even an expert on. Having a podcast is the lowest honor you can get in Hollywood, but it's the closest you'll feel to having a family and a crew in this awful city. It means that you call a friend in to bullshit with you on mic two hours every week. It also means you got to go on their podcast and bullshit with them as long as you don't have literally any other single excuse not to.

It's basically a license to be a loser. But as far as Weiger was concerned, with the USong being in the WGA, it's like we all were. Screeners, Q&As, Zoom meetings with showrunners, it was the Hollywood dream. That was amazing. Wow. Mitch, what's this week in hotdog news? All right, so we only have time for one.

Okay. Let's see here. I have Googled hotdog. Wow. Googled hotdog singular this week? Or should it be hotdogs? Yeah, do it. Go nuts.

All right. Singular hotdog news. See what happens if you do singular hotdog. Sure. I like a hotdog. I don't know if I'm like a hotdog aficionado, but an enthusiast. Sure. Yeah.

What do you like to put on a hotdog? I like ketchup and mustard and relish. I mean, I don't. Classic. I'm not religious about it. I don't only have that. It kind of depends. But those are all things I enjoy on a hotdog.

I just got to say, here's some great hotdog news once again, proving this bit has legs. Here we go. The first up, the big news, I'll start with the big news. Round hotdogs exist and we're not sure how to feel about it. This is Yahoo Life. What does that mean round hotdogs? In the never ending debate of what is and what is not a sandwich, the hotdog continues to be a head scratching contender.

After all, it's sandwiched between a bun. Isn't that enough evidence? All right. This person's definitely swayed into it being a sandwich. Yes. There are actually round hotdogs that you put on burger patties, basically. This is what this article is looking at and so it's basically, you eat it like a burger. How do you feel about that?

Round hotdogs. Why does that disgust me? It shouldn't be. There's something off-putting about that. Yeah. It's like, I don't expect that in a patty form. I expect it in tube form. Yeah, like a puck.

It's weird. I bet it's good. So it says here, this is the exact scenario with Tony Luke Jr., the creator owner of popular cheesesteak chain, Tony Luke's, to event these circular dogs. So I guess Tony Luke's has created these circular hotdogs. If we're going to give them a shot, you can purchase them now exclusively on QVC. It's pricey, $83.50 for a 24 pack. I don't know how I feel about it.

Oh, come on. Yeah, that's expensive. $83.50 for 24 hotdog patties? That's absurd. Yeah. Anyways, hold on. I'm putting in my credit card information. Yeah, that's pricey.

I also just don't know if I want to eat it as, you like a dog because sucking on dogs like sucking on a titty like you said it. Exactly like that, as everyone knows that a hotdog is exactly like a breast, you fucking freak. It's a useful rhyme. I will say that I will have like a hotdog and a sandwich form factor like a hamburger bun, but all I'll do is I'll take two hotdogs and you'll cut them in half and just sort of splay them out and I feel like that will work.

You do do that? But just having like a hotdog shaped patty, I think is weird. Isn't the great thing about a hotdog is it is fun the way that it's shaped. It's fun to fucking suck down a hotdog. It's great. The form factor is a real hoot. Why change it into a sandwich? Yeah, I agree with you.

How do you feel, Allison? How do you feel about this? I'm actually, you know, when I was a kid and my mom would slice the hotdog in half and make a sandwich out of it, I think I liked it quite a bit actually. I'm sorry to go against the grain, but I think the problem with a ham, with a hotdog patty, because there's something that's really like grossing me out about it. It's the snap, the snap of like a big patty. I don't know.

If I imagine eating human flesh, I feel like it would be like that. Wow. Wow. Since I'm not a cannibal, I won't be enjoying a hotdog patty. Dear Lord. That probably is kind of what me and Mitch's flesh is like at this point after having this podcast for this many years. It's probably like biting into a hotdog patty.

I wonder if you could do like a Coke vs Pepsi challenge with our flesh in a hotdog to see if people could tell the difference. I think that to me, especially like they're selling it through QVC, they've got a known food persona as like the license of it, they're using Tony Luke's name. This just sounds like a cash grab. This sounds like there isn't some genuine passion behind this, that this is going to like, I think the hotdog patty is the way you should eat hotdogs. It sounds like they have some gimmickry that they think they can sell.

Yes. It definitely seems like a gimmick, but whatever. If the price comes down, maybe I buy them for fun just to try them. Anyways, Wienerschnitzel, the world's largest hotdog chain is searching for international partners to go global. There's some news. Scientists cook hotdog in lava from Iceland's erupting volcano. Let's talk Wienerschnitzel real quick.

Allison, there's a good number of Wienerschnitzels in California where I believe you lived for, if not all of your life, most of your life. Yes. In California, I lived in New York for about 10 years, and then I came back to California. The majority of my life has been here. Are you much of a Wienerschnitzel person? Is that a chain you'll ever visit? What's crazy is I don't think I've ever eaten at Wienerschnitzel.

Wow. Wow. Maybe I need to go. Next time, are you guys doing, have you done Wienerschnitzel a lot? We haven't done it in a long time, yeah. I think it would be impossible to eat theirs a vegetarian, so that would be an interesting experiment to see if there's anything I can get. Wienerschnitzel is one of the last places I got at the end of last year before I was

going to transition into not eating meat for all of 2021 and possibly beyond. I just wanted their chili combo. I wanted the chili cheese fries and the chili cheese dog and the chili cheese burger. I just wanted all that shit loaded with chili on it. I'd say it's pretty far from good, but it is so specifically trashy and I had it so much as a treat as a kid that I want it for the same reason I want Jack in the Box, which also I think is maybe not good. It's garbage, but it's my garbage.

I've been there a few times, not many times, but I think it is if you're in the mood for garbage. You're right. If you want garbage, go to Wienerschnitzel. If you're in the mood for a hot dog and you want some garbage, it's a fun place to go. There you go. You're set. There's not that many places like fast food places where you can get a hot dog.

Yeah. Right? We reviewed one of them pretty recently, Dog House, our buddy, Adam Gertler, as behind that place. Which also the best place to get, a fantastic place. Dog House rules. Dog House is fantastic. I, again, should look and see what their vegetarian options are, but that's a completely

different price point than Wienerschnitzel. That's nice. It's not a drive-thru concept or anything. It's not a drive-thru. No. It's like a dine-in or take-out place. I mean, I honestly think it's more of a dine-in place. I think it's more of like you go there and you have some beers and you have some dogs

and you have the time of your life. So wait. Alison, you lived in New York for a while, New York, known for its hot dogs. Did you eat a lot of dogs there? You ever do the street cart dog? No. I mean, I have in my life. I know.

I'm sorry. Just picture me with my laughing cow cheese and my egg whites. Wait, hold on. I got a question for you. I want you to answer, I want you to go on with the answer, but I also want to know what cart, what was your cart of choice if you have to choose a New York cart? Great follow-up. Wait, my cart?

Yeah. Like what cart are you choosing? Which, uh... Oh, I didn't, you know, I'm going to like a coffee cart, like the morning sort of breakfast sandwich and coffee, that was my cart of choice. So I have had the New York hot dogs in my life, though, and they're very good, but I didn't, when I lived there, I didn't get that a lot. And there's also Gray's papaya, which is a hot dog place that I also didn't go to.

So I'm pretty much, I'm a disappointment. I am the human embodiment of the breadstick I ate, just disappointing. Wow. It sounds like you made good choices, rather, because, I mean, this stuff is horrible for your body. I do like Gray's papaya, and then I had to rip off their, Nali and I used to go to a rip-off when we'd visit New York called Papaya King. I think Gray's papaya was first, same sort of thing, just like you get like those trashy

skinny dogs with cheese or chili or whatever you want to top it with, and then you get, they also have juices, they have like fresh juices there. The juices are great. It's a really fun combo. You know what I did have in Hawaii? What is a place called? Anthony Bourdain went there. There's a place that has hot dogs, and they have like papaya relish, mango relish, and

a couple other tropical relishes, and people recommended this place. Oh, you have to go there. And I tried those. That was an interesting, it wasn't bad, but I also wasn't in love with it. The idea of like a tropical relish on a hot dog. Wow. He went to Hula Dog or Pula Dog? Hula Dog?

Yeah, Puka Dog. Puka Dog, one of the two. I think Puka Dog. Maybe it's known by both. But yeah, Hawaiian style hot dogs, this tab is playing music that only I'm hearing right now. These do look good. It looks like they've got like the, I don't, I would assume they have the Hawaiian rolls,

but I'm not sure if that's exactly what they have or not. I think it was a Hawaiian roll, but I'm a big fan of Hawaiian bread. Love the Hawaiian bread. Man, it's so great. Hawaiian bread's great. Hawaiian rolls, a lot of fun. There's a few more stories. I think we can only talk about one more.

Okay. So I'm just going to list a couple and then I'm going to end on the two that we can decide on what to talk about. But here's the one, this is just for the headline, bacon hot dog shortage could leave summer plans up in smoke. So it seems like there's a bacon hot dog shortage, which I don't know if that's a big issue honestly. And then Snyder cut's best scene involves a hot dog in the flash.

That's also in there. That's, I don't know if that's the best scene, but Gizmodo lists it as the best scene. Are they referring, wait, what is, what is the scene referring to that when he rescues the rescue, the woman from the car crash or from the truck crash? Yes. Yeah. That was a hot dog. I get that.

It was a burger. I thought it was a burger too, but a hot dog cart gets hit. Okay. All right. Should I look at the article? Let's figure out some, no, fuck this article. The last two wigs, one is near and dear to your heart, but I think both of these are, one is from Snopes.com, an article on Snopes.com from three weeks ago.

And the other is Fox News, a great website. So we got fake news and real news, you're saying, Mitch, the liberal propaganda Snopes, and then the truth Fox News. Well Fox News, the article is company hiring MLB food tester to eat hot dogs at stadiums, which seems like a fucking dream job. Yeah. That sounds fantastic. And then the other one was the Snopes article is, did Costco founder say, I will kill you

to CEO who wanted to raise hot dog prices, which you know the story of why. So yeah, he did, right? That's true. Yes, I believe, hold on, let me check Snopes, let's see what Snopes says, here we go. Are you, Allison, as a mom with a family, are you a Costco shopper? Not as much as you'd think. There are some times that I have gone and I look at their website and I'm like, I should really buy stuff here, but for some reason I don't do it that often.

It's going to Costco is like one of my favorite things. And it's not the same in quarantine, it's actually is like a very anxiety inducing because you know, just even though they're pretty safe, it's just like a mass of humanity inside an enclosed warehouse. But man, I love getting a big value there. I love getting a great value and I also like stumbling upon things. I like the sample situation and I don't know what they're going to do going forward, but I used to love going there when I was hungry and just having samples.

Yeah, it's a bummer now because they have the sample stands, but then there's nothing to hand out. We are here and here's a person who's standing here who can tell you about a product that they're selling, but you don't get to taste this toasted ravioli. It's just like you can just see what it looks like. Right. Yeah, that's a bummer. Maybe with the vaccine, maybe the samples will come back soon.

Hopefully. Yeah. I feel like I heard, I saw someone's Instagram story where they're like Costco samples are coming back. I don't know if that's true or not, but I think I saw that. I'll check Snopes on this. Check Fox News if you want the truth. Well, so Snopes says, Marxist says true.

The founder of Costco told the CEO who wanted to raise the prices on Costco's hot dogs, if you raise the effing hot dog, I will kill you, figure it out. So that is true. But let's look at this. I think we should get into this, to close this out, we should talk about this. Company hiring MLB food tester to eat hot dogs at stadiums. Winner will be paid $500 and will receive a budget for food and travel. Wow.

With Major League Baseball and Full Swing, one company is offering to pay someone to find out which stadiums hot dogs hit a home run. Casino review site, uh-oh. Casino review site bonus finder launched a new contest earlier this week to find an MLB professional food tester. The winner will be given $500 as well as a budget for food and travel according to the contest page. So basically, they're not getting paid.

I don't think they're getting $500 and then it says they're giving them food and travel, but what does that mean? Right. Yeah. The tester will be expected to travel the MLB stadiums to taste their hot dogs and watch games. Hmm. So that's not too bad.

Yeah. I mean, that sounds fun, but you're right, Allison, that's like thousands and thousands of dollars of personal expenses to travel to all these stadiums, I guess unless they're paying for everything, which it doesn't sound like it. And also, yeah, you're going to be gone for a long time, it seems. The tester will then have to review hot dogs based on appearance and color, flavor complexity and quality of meat, bun quality and flavor, sauce and topping generosity and value for money.

Wow. Bun quality and flavor, sorry, sauce and topping generosity and value for money. I mean, this does seem, I mean, that's the field of dreams, American dream to go around to every state and fucking eat a hot dog. It sounds amazing. Yeah, that sounds incredible. Baseball and hot dog super fans only likes, so you got to be 21 plus. Yeah.

I'm a hot dog fan. I qualify as a hot dog fan, but yeah, I don't really follow MLB. That's maybe it. Yeah. By the way, I looked up Puka Dog and I looked up the menu and it's, bitch, I would say if we ever do, for whatever reason, if we ever find ourselves doing a Doughboys Hawaii, this might be a place to visit because listen to this, I'll describe the components. So you choose your dog first off, they have Polish sausages and veggie dogs, so great,

they have a veggie dog option. Then you get a garlic lemon sauce, which can either be mild, spicy or lava. It goes all the way up to lava. So you got a hot dog on a Hawaiian bun with a spicy, with a garlic lemon sauce to your degree of spice. Then you've got a tropical relish, which can be mango, coconut, pineapple, banana, papaya or star fruit, and then the mustard. How did you pronounce banana there?

Banana. Banana. Sorry. There you go. Should have gotten dominionese. And then the mustard is, and maybe you, this is, I don't know if this is what Bourdain got or not, but this is a passion fruit wasabi mustard, is the one that's default, which sounds amazing.

Amazing. We brought it back. Do you really? Yeah. Wow. That sounds awesome. Is it good? It's good.

It's a little more run-of-the-mill tasting than I expected. It kind of tastes like a sweet mustard. It doesn't have this like, oh my God, this is a once in a lifetime, just in Hawaii flavor that I thought it might. Interesting. By the way, I've scrolled down to the comments on this article. Mm-hmm. Here's one.

Good luck with that. Since I am never watching a televised game again, let alone going to one. Same here. Sold my seats. No more season tickets for me. I'm over it. Ad revenue will be down. So they got to find new ways to boost dog revenues thanks to the MLB playing politics.

They're all mad because they moved the all-star game out of fucking Georgia. Oh my God. It's all fucking pissed off Fox. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Fucking pieces of shit. God, you're mad at a hot dog article for God's sakes. Well, that was this week's edition of Let Me Be Frank, just like a restaurant value

feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today we have an email from at whatupsnoah. Noah writes, in honor of this year's Oscars in memoriam segment, what are some of your favorite past chains that are no longer with us? Wow. My personal faves are former SoCal institutions, Hamburger Hamlet, and Kukuru, R.I.P., P.S. no disrespect to the Spoon Nation Burger Brigade for Life, P.P.S., Emma, Emerson College O5.

So there you go. So you graduated from Emerson the same year I graduated from college, and you're fucking burger brigade. You piece of shit, offense taken. What's this person's name? This is Noah. Noah. Okay.

Is it a Noah we know? I'm going to kick your ass, you know what I know. Whatupsnoah? Fucking dead man. Allison, does anything come to mind if there's a chain, or even not, not even a chain necessarily. It could be a standalone restaurant that was a favorite of yours that is no more. I'm trying to, I'm drawing a blank. I'm trying to remember what restaurants I loved.

Let me keep thinking. I mean, Golden Spoon is still around, right? Golden Spoon, Frozen Yogurt. Yeah, but I don't see a lot of them. Right. I mean, it's been a million years since I've been to a Golden Spoon, but that is popping to my mind. Gosh, I'm having a tough time.

Well, see, I'm a big salad bar fan. I just like the options. I like the experience. So in general, I feel like salad bars are not around that much anymore. Yeah, that's a good point. And I don't know if they're going to survive the pandemic. I want 100%. So I'm having trouble thinking of a specific place, but in general, the salad bar experience

is a thing of yesteryear. Well, I'll say in that category, and I would slot a chain we reviewed when you were on a previous episode, Cocos, kind of into that like, it's like a sit-down place that has a salad bar for dinner, Marie Calender, same sort of thing, which we've also reviewed on the show, Baker Square, which I think is defunct. These are all kind of like the not like more upscale than a diner, more of like a sit-down, like, you know, American classics restaurant. And I feel like that category in general is kind of going away, like beyond the salad

bar, just like that kind of restaurant, there's kind of slow fading into nothing. And Hamburger Hamlet, Hamburger Hamlet, rather, which was mentioned here is kind of in that category as well. That's a good one. Yeah. Hamburger Hamlet is, it is a, it's sad, that was a fun, weird LA chain restaurant that like, so weird, felt, yeah, so weird, but it also felt so LA that it was like a place where a burger restaurant you went and could have business meetings at, it's very, it was

very bizarre. The one on Sunset there felt like right near Beverly Hills, it was like a place where like, people from, would like, like agents and managers would go there and get fucking lunch. It was bizarre. It was a power lunch from a different era. It was like, you know, because nowadays there'll be a nice burger place, but it'll be like the gastropub. It'll be like the casual place, you know, and maybe you're ordering at the bar and,

but this was like, it's like a white tablecloth, fancy burger restaurant. It's very weird. And it's, yeah, I liked it. They had its charm. Was there one in Southern California, I mean, in Orange County as well, or have I been to the LA one? Because I know I've been to Hamburger Hamlet when I was very little. There was a few of them.

Yeah. They're right there. I wouldn't be surprised if there was one in Orange County. Yeah, it was a nice environment. Yeah. Along those lines, also, I think Fudruckers is maybe like, like, I just see more and more Fudruckers closing. And I'm worried that that chain is in danger of extinction.

I do like going to a Fudruckers lot, that's a lot of fun. Fudruckers is great. It's like Uncle Moe's kind of, it's a, it's a, it's a fun, it's fun. Funruckers. It makes sense. It's a great, it's a great spot. I remember, wait, I don't want to cut you off, but I remembered one. Has this, has this vaccine made me less funny?

Fudruckers was great. What were we going to say on this? That's what I'm going to blame. Are you guys familiar with a restaurant called Bobby McGee's? I don't know if it was a one-off or if it was a chain, but this was down in Orange County. It was the kind of place that you'd go to have a birthday party and the food was, it was fine, but the waiters and, or the servers would dress in costume and you would order your, they had these collectible glasses that they would serve.

You could order either a strawberry banana, daiquiri, or a strawberry margarita. And it would, you would order it in a toilet, a ladies' boot, a man's boot, or a sink. Wow. This is what the glass, and you could collect all of them. Is this Joplin themed? Is it like that? Is Bobby McGee? No.

Okay. No. I don't know why it was called Bobby McGee's, but it was so much fun, you know, to my young mind. And then I think upstairs they had a bar and like a dance floor. Yeah. So I, I don't know if I would still enjoy it, but I was bummed when that closed down. Yeah.

That, it looks like it closed like a decade ago. I'm seeing Yelp reviews from 2009 that are like, yeah, this place is closed for good. So like the waiter, the waiters would like dress up as characters too. Right. Like Indian, tonight you'll be served by Indiana Jones or by, you know. That sounds awesome. It was really fun. I mean, cheesy as hell, but fun.

I think I still have the, the mugs somewhere. We still got to do Rainforest Cafe. I know that there are like a couple left, but yeah, that's one that's closing. Of course, YG's for me. I'm just going to go, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to shoot them off quickly. Brigham's. You know, I love Brigham's. The heartbroken that is closed.

And Friendly's is also on its way out. Emma, you know this Friendly's is, I mean, it's not completely done for why are you, you've actually had Friendly's, but it's in bad spot. I think they've entered bankruptcy protection. So I think the brand will probably survive, but in a different form. Any, you know, PuppetG knows D-Angels are ones I worry about, but ones that are actually closed like Howard Johnson's, Quincy's own, Howard Johnson's closed down, Bickford's was a, was another one, but, but, um, like some diner places I think would be, would be fun

to have open. Uh, I do want to do rainforest before it goes down. I want to do that for the pod. Yeah. It seems like, it seems like a fun spot. Um, do you remember Ground Round, Emma? That was like a, that was like a New England one, Ground Round. Um, I've heard of Ground Round.

It was, it was a, it was like a fun fud ruckers one. I think that they're all closed down now too. A lot. Why, cause I said this the other day, but it's, it's a sad thing when you have to root for like smaller local chains. I mean, like, yeah, like already rooting for just, you know, independently owned restaurants and, and people who open up businesses and then the world is, is there, it's, it's such hell that you have to sometimes you got to root for even the fucking chains, which is

insane. Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's like voting for who the democratic nominee ends up being every time. It's like, oh, all right. Fuck it. Sure. Fine.

I guess, I guess Target is better than Walmart. So I'll shop at Target. Um, hit us up with a, let us know what restaurant you were missing out there. Restaurant IP, hashtag restaurant IP on social media. And if you have a question or comment up at the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at dobleyspodcasts at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-463-6844. And to get the Doughboys double our weekly bonus episode, join the golden or platinum

play club at patreon.com slash Doughboys. And one final reminder, this is our final episode, Mitch, before the first ever Doughboys Doughathon, which will be at twitch.tv slash Doughboys podcast, that will be 25 hours straight of us losing our minds for charity, check that out. And it should be starting, we don't have the exact time yet as of this recording, but it should be starting Friday night, Friday night, the 31st, going through Saturday night the 1st. So, so check that out, twitch.tv slash Doughboys podcast.

You're going to stay up for 25 hours? No, I'm going to sleep for sure. I'm going to try. We also, Weiger sent out an article about someone who died trying to do it. So now we're nervous. Yes. It was like one of my first Google searches. I just searched like, I searched for tips for a 24 hour live stream and like on the

first page of results was man dies doing 24 hour live stream. And then I looked and he was younger than me. Yeah. Weirdly, the article said healthier younger man than you dies from doing 24 hour marathon. Dear Lord. Well, it's going to be fun, Wigs, and if we have to sleep, we'll just fall asleep for a bit. I'll fall asleep on camera.

Who gives a shit? Well, we'll figure it out. People will love that. Yeah. That's what everyone's hoping for. That's what they're logging on to see. Yeah. Alison Rosen, always a delight to have you on.

Please come back. Let's review Weiner Schnitzel or Puka Dog or whatever, but please come back on the on the pod sooner rather than later. Any time. I had such a fun time with you guys. Thank you so much for having me back. Thank you for being here. An absolute delight.

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And hey, Mitch, that'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys. And until next time, for Mr. Slice, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigar. Happy eating. See ya. On the next Doe Boys Double, it's another edition of Pilot Program with spaceship pilots. Jason Menzuchus joins to share his love for Star Wars Rebels. And we watched the double-length premiere episode explaining how Ezra Bridger met Kanan Jarrus in Chopper.

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