Doughboys - Pizza Hut 2 with Jen D'Angelo

Episode Date: April 23, 2020

The 'boys welcome Jen D'Angelo (Workaholics, Solar Opposites) for their second full review of Pizza Hut, including the chain's new Big Dipper pizza. And the debut of a new segment, Family Food.This Week's Sources:Yum! Brands, Inc. history, profile and corporate videohttps://www.companieshistory.com/yum-brands/ Yum! Brands, Inc.https://www.yum.com/wps/portal/yumbrands/Yumbrands/company 5 Things You Probably Didn't Know About Yum! Brandshttps://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/04/19/5-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-yum-brands.aspx  Yum! to buy Habit Burger Grillhttps://www.nrn.com/mergers-acquisitions/yum-buy-habit-burger-grill  Time to Buy Beat-Down Yum! Brands, Inc. (YUM) Stock? Here is the INSIGHThttps://investchronicle.com/2020/04/02/time-to-buy-beat-down-yum-brands-inc-yum-stock-here-is-the-insight-3/  How Pizza Hut keeps its people and pizzas safehttps://gulfnews.com/food/how-pizza-hut-keeps-its-people-and-pizzas-safe-1.1587472790712  Yum Brands CEO David Gibbs says company working 'urgently' to fix Pizza Huthttps://www.nrn.com/franchising/yum-brands-ceo-david-gibbs-says-company-working-urgently-fix-pizza-hut Pizza Hut planning to close as many as 500 locationshttps://www.thetimesnews.com/news/20190808/pizza-hut-planning-to-close-as-many-as-500-locationsLargest U.S. Pizza Hut Franchisee Could Choose Bankruptcyhttps://www.pymnts.com/news/investment-tracker/2020/largest-u-s-pizza-hut-franchisee-could-choose-bankruptcy/Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 1997, PepsiCo, the Hydrox of Cola, spun off its fast food division into an independent company, birthing the ominously named Tricon Global Restaurants Inc., with an unending clause requiring the eateries to carry Pepsi products exclusively. This triumvirate of massive chain brands, KFC, Taco Bell, and the largest pizza restaurant in the world, was subsequently renamed to the cheery-sounding Yum Brands, complete with a Jeb Bush-style trailing exclamation point. And in 2020, this trio became a quartet with the addition of formerly independent West Coast Burgary The Habit, purchased for a staggering $375 million.

But the company may wish it hadn't made such an expensive expansion now, as its stock has lost a third of its value due to plummeting restaurant sales in the wake of the COVID crisis. Although its woes can't all be blamed on the plague, one of its original triforce of brands, the Pizzeria chain, has in fact been struggling for years, highlighted by an embarrassing flop of a rebrand that involved dropping the pizza from its name, Facebook-style. In fact, headlines such as Yum Brands CEO David Gibbs says company working urgently to fix pizza chain. Pizza chain, planning to close as many as 500 locations, and largest US pizza chain franchisee

could choose bankruptcy, all pre-date the current crisis. And while pizza delivery is surging during the patchwork of regional state home orders in the US, it may not be enough to salvage the struggling Italian-American Goliath. So can this non-noyed Domino's antagonist write the ship and transmogrify from an anchor to a jewel in the Yum Brands portfolio? And will it improve upon one of the worst reviews in this podcast's history? This week on Doughboys, we return to Pizza Hut. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants.

I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host, KK Sliders, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Hey, Weigs. That was courtesy of Tom and DC. Tom writes, a little animal crossing roast. Hope you all are well, roastspoonmanageemail.com. Tom and DC. Tom what? What's his, what's his, what's his last name?

Tom and DC. I think, maybe his last name is Nook. Maybe Nook hit us with a roast. It might be Tom Nook himself. That's why he said, that's why it was an animal crossing reference? It could be. I don't know. It's, it's possible.

We, we can't rule it out. You know, he probably is in DC right now, trying to get some deals done as, as one of the big players in our economy. He's probably on that. Nook is? That task force with the, with the, the fucking Robert Kraft, whatever other, whatever their ghouls Trump has assembled. I wish that I could catch 10 fish and then add another room to my apartment.

Except, you know, I wouldn't be able, I maybe I'd be able to get like a Warfroach or something like that. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what the big, what, what are the big, we're talking animal crossing for anyone who, who isn't aware animal crossing the new game on switch where there is some, you know, basically you're trying to improve a town slash your home. It's this, it's this crazy fantasy world, this crazy alternate economy where you can pay off, you can like have a house and then pay off your home loan.

So it's pretty fantastical, but we, we, you get to like, you like fish and then you can sell the fish. I don't know what the hot items are right now. I don't know what the big, the, I didn't, my hot item, I don't mean the crafted item that you sell to Tommy and Timmy Nook. I mean, like, what is the big, what is the big fish out there? What gives you the most bells, bells, the currency and animal crossing? I caught a blue Marlin the other day.

Wow. How exciting. Yeah. Maybe I'm about done with animal crossing. Really? How can you say this? Because my life sucks and then my video game life is getting better and I'm just sitting in fucking trash.

Oh, I get it. It's deflating to see this alternate reality. Yeah. I get what you, I get where you're thriving, you're going outside, you're interacting with people. Yeah. It's, it's, you're exchanging gifts in person instead of dropping them in front of a closed door.

There's a, there's a horse woman who likes me. She flirts with me. Awesome. Her name is Anna Lease. Wow. She likes me. She calls me funny names and I have to tell you, I'm in love. You're in love with a horse lady for animal crossing?

I'm in love with the horse lady. I mean, you could do worse romantically. I know that it's not normal that a horse lady in a pig man. Howdy ho to Spoo Nation. I'm, I'm embarrassed. My guests saw that. That's a good sign for the guests. That means that you're a, you're a good person.

You're of note. Not like our other shitty guests. Stop comparing, stop comparing a guest to each other. It's not good for repeat bookings. Nick, here's a little drop. Can we write a parody song for the break in my stomach? That's fucking formed after eating all that bullshit. 6am, day after tourney, my stomach hurts and I am gone.

Down the hall, go to the toilet, I sit upon the porcelain throne. I check for TP and light a candle. Come on, Weigher, hell this is great. It's a brick and it's moving slowly. My butt in the water's brown now. How's that? This is, I love it. I think it's very good.

Wasn't that funny. Wow, what a drop we just heard. Boy, that was really something. Yeah, that drop was sent in by Nathan, who writes, I made a drop of Mitch singing brick. What a beautiful song. His pitch and timing was very easy to work with. And I think his singing voice is great too.

Oh, thank you, Nathan. Too bad Susser kept on interjecting, agreed. Took a lot of editing to get most of that out of there. Thanks, Nate M. Thanks, Nate M. Hope you're doing well. This drop was too long, but you spent a lot of time on it and I appreciate it. I hope you're doing well.

Wow, thanks. Excellent work by Nate. Really like that one. Hey, and if you have a drop you'd like to send in for the show and have Mitch play so that I can hear it, that our producer Emma can hear it, and that our guests can hear it. If you want to do that, you can... All you have to do is just email me at spoonmandrops at gmail.com.

Once again, that email is spoonmandrops at gmail.com. And hey, let's introduce our guest. She's a writer, actor, and comedian from Workaholics and Solar Opposites, which is coming to Hulu on May 8th. Jen D'Angelo is here. Hi, Jen. Hi. Jen, thank you for joining us under these weird circumstances.

We've done two records with you now. They've both been odd. One was in an Atlanta hotel room for the HTL. We did a ghost draft back when the movie you both were working on was titled Ghost Draft, now called The Tomorrow War, and unfortunately, delayed into 2021. And now we're doing this Zoom record, which is also odd, but it's how things are...

It's how podcasts are happening now. We know the same world. Yeah. I mean, I think I prefer this to being in Mitch's hotel room. D'Angelo. You're not the only one. I mean, I think I prefer this to being in a hotel room for months at a time.

We should address something that we may have discussed on the double episode we did with you, the Patreon episode, but I think it's worth revisiting if we have explored it. Your last name is D'Angelo. Mitch is from, and Emma, also from New England, where there is a sandwich chain called D'Angelo's. Yeah. Have these two D'Angelo's ever met?

We have not met. Wow. Yeah. There is a D'Angelo's... I'm from right outside Philadelphia, and there is a D'Angelo's somewhere in Pennsylvania. I remember driving past it and being like, whoa, and not stopping.

You didn't get it? No. If there was like a Mitchell's sub shop, I feel like I would have to get it. I think you could get it. I think just a sub shop would be enough for you. Piece of shit. A sub out here?

I was a real wah-wah, slash still am, like real wah-wah hoagie snob, and so any other hoagie establishment I just assume is bad, but now you vouch for it. Yeah, go on, Mitch. Speak to D'Angelo's, the chain's positives. I mean, look, some people are going to be like, it's not that big of a deal,

but I think it has a great steak and cheese sub. I really like their steak and cheese, and they have kind of like... It's almost like steak-ums, but they cook them on the grill, which is a really well done. Emma, would you agree? I mean, they used to have them at Patriots games. They're good, and then they have a gobbler sandwich, Nick.

I mean, it's still like a fast food sandwich place, so it's not... Yes. It's still on par with the average fast food sandwich place, but it is good, and I think it's a smaller chain, so their quality's a little better than a national chain. It's much better. The bread is much better than Subway or whatever.

Their bread's really good. It's much, much better. I mean, the subs as a whole are better than Subway or any kind of like... 100%. Yeah, fast food place. And they also have a Greek salad, Nick. The gobbler's good.

Love a Greek salad. There's good stuff there. Yeah. I think the... I'll just say about the gobbler, Mitch, you are what you eat, but the... I think that it sounds like this is like... You're calling me a gobbler?

I'm saying you're a gobbler. You gobble things up. You liked a gobbler. I thought you were calling me like the old man that you are. You were calling me like a turkey. I thought that was like very Biden-esque of you, by the way. Listen, Jack... Hey, when it comes to sandwiches, you are what you eat.

You're a gobbler. You're a turkey. You saw this turkey over. What's that? That's that guy got... You know, that guy's got nothing. He doesn't know what the right... Where this train's headed.

Jack, the... Gobbler sounds like turkey slang that is derogatory to it. It's a point that makes me uncomfortable. I think you're right. But it sounds like DeAngelo's is kind of on the level of like a Jersey Mike's, a Firehouse Sub. Am I wrong? Is that where you'd place it?

I mean, I really enjoy it. I mean, I try to get you to try a lot of these places while you're in Massachusetts. Now you're never going to go back to Massachusetts. We'll go back... We'll go back at some point when we can travel. Jen, so you mentioned... You're not going to come. I'll go.

I've already been. I'll go. There's president for me going twice. I've been to Boston twice. Come to Quincy and hang out at Malachy's with me and Micas and Wu Tang. I've hung out with all these guys. We've hung out multiple times in multiple cities. I've done it.

The proof is there. I've done it. I haven't spent enough time in Quincy. You guys have done more time in Quincy. Jen, so you mentioned Wawa and as someone from the Philadelphia area, obviously you have your allegiance to this chain as a lot of Philadelphians do. What is your go-to order at Wawa? And you gave us some advice as to what to get when we did our live show out there, which

was actually very helpful. But I'm curious, what would be your advice to a Wawa novice? Oh, man. I mean, I always do a turkey hoagie. I grew up with Wawa, so I watched all the options just explode for the sandwich. I think you got to just go simple, especially if you're just there for the first time. Don't get too swayed by all the new stuff that they have on the touchscreen. Just go for a simple hoagie.

And toss some toppings on there. Don't go too crazy. And just enjoy a simple little hoagie. And then the mac and cheese. Hey, you are. Once again, you are what you eat, Jack. That's true. I do feel like a simple little hoagie.

I think that's a pretty accurate description of me. Where do sandwiches rank in terms of your indulgent foods? When you're craving, I want to just really eat something heavy. Is a hoagie a go-to for you? Does that have to be the right hoagie? See, hoagies are almost healthy to me. Jen, you're not alone. I agree with you.

Because I'm like, you know, it's essentially a salad on bread. Is the bread that bad? But I feel like my go-to heavy craving is a fried chicken sandwich. Oh, hell yeah. Which is still in sandwich land. Have you tried that Popeyes version? Yes, I got it in Atlanta and I thought it was terrible. No.

Whoa. But I got it after the big rush, after they sold out, and then they were like, it's back. And I don't know if they just tanked the quality just to have more. Or if I just got a bad one, but it was all thrown together. There was a glob of mayonnaise dripping off of one side, and then the rest of it was dry. And I was just kind of like, ugh. Here's my conspiracy theory. You were down there in the HTL, you were in Hot Lana, the home of Chick-fil-A.

Yeah. And probably their Popeyes locations, they're sabotaging. Oh. Interesting. I bet they're just... Wait, what? I'm guessing the Popeyes down there are not up to the standard... So Chick-fil-A is sabotaging the...

There are secret Chick-fil-A workers working at Popeyes. It's possible. Even if it isn't like a sleep or sell scenario, I think it could just be that those are franchises that are kind of neglected or are lower priority for corporate because it's just like, well, this is Chick-fil-A country, what are you going to do? It's Chick-fil-A, Coca-Cola, they have a stranglehold on Atlanta. Yeah. So maybe that's the case.

Did you get Chick-fil-A much down there? Hey, Nick. Yeah. Hey, Nick. You must be eating the dipshit sandwich because that's the dumbest fucking theory I've ever heard. I just, I mean, I couldn't, I'm sorry. I just... No, it's fine.

It's fine. Also, I just have a little surprise for the three of you. Okay. Emma and Jen and Nick. I'm actually not recording at Palmerston today. You're not? No, I'm here. Okay.

Wow. Mitch just changed his background to his Animal Crossing Island. I see Tom Nook in the background making an announcement. Yeah. Hey, there he is. Now, isn't your island, though, also called Palmerston? Yeah. I mean, we don't have to get into the specifics about where I live.

Okay. Didn't you say that, though, when you said... Yeah, you said you're not at Palmerston, and then you just put a backdrop of a different Palmerston. We didn't have to point it out as my point. We didn't have to talk about it for this long. I'm going to say, oh, cool. That's creepy.

My mic. Nick, it's actually, it's cutting down the size of my head, which I kind of like. Yeah. So the silhouette of Mitch's mic has been green screened out, and don't be confused because his name is Mike, and he has a mic referring to his microphone. Jesus Christ. Nick, I want to say this about Jen. We knew each other through UCB, all right.

You know everybody through UCB. We knew each other pretty well, but when I went down to, now we're going to do tomorrow war draft now, too, by the way. I don't know how... Oh, yeah. You got to draft tomorrows. I would say that I think going pretty high would be New Year's Day, because that means it's New Year's Eve, and you got a new year ahead of you, and that's always very exciting

for everyone. That's a pretty big tomorrow. See, that's interesting because to me, that's a bad tomorrow because New Year's Eve is better than New Year's Day. I agree with you, Jen. Bad draft by why? I think December 23rd, which, well, I guess, are you drafting the day? Yeah.

Well, the next day, which is very exciting, and you get more anticipation, I draft Christmas Eve. I am drafting Christmas Eve. Yeah, I should have drafted Christmas Eve, not the 23rd. It looks forward to the 24th. You can still enjoy the day of, you can still enjoy the day before tomorrow. That's just the anticipation. What about tomorrow never dies?

The James Bond movie. Oh. There's other tomorrows like that, right? Right. I guess anything that has tomorrow in it suddenly becomes up for grabs. The sun will come out tomorrow. The day after tomorrow? The day after tomorrow.

There you go. You got to outrun the cold. Guys, we don't have to do this because we just did it. Yeah, I mean, it was really good, too. It was great. So yeah, we don't really need to replicate it. We don't need to try to catch lightning in a bottle the second time. Because that was game busters.

What I was going to say is that I got to know Jen really well, but you said something to me in the first week, because we both went down there, and it was that crazy thing of I messaged you the day I was flying down there, and I was like, I'm in this thing. I heard you're maybe working on this or in it or something, and you were like, I am. I had no idea at all that that was happening, and then we were on the same flight down there, and then we became great friends, hung out a bunch. I mean, I'm saying that at least. You might not feel the same way.

I mean, no. Mitch was a lifesaver in Atlanta. Likewise. And we both, like when we weren't filming or anything or had the day off, we would get dinner and stuff, but you admitted to me the first week, you were like, I was like, you want to get dinner or something? And you were like, I have something embarrassing to say, and I didn't find it at all embarrassing. Do you remember this?

No. You were like, you were getting Wendy's for the second night in a row. You don't remember this? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I remember. You're a huge Wendy's aficionado.

Yeah. I love Wendy's. Yeah. What's your Wendy's go to? That's like the least embarrassing thing on earth to me is getting Wendy's multiple times in a row. Yeah. Yeah.

They'll endear you to Mitch. I can't believe I even thought to be embarrassed to tell you that. Cut to going to crystals with you and Sam and just ordering a truly like Schmorgasborg amount of food and being like, oh, what did I care about my Wendy's order? We did that. That was the part of the episode, Wagga. Yeah. Yes.

I went to crystal by myself then. Is that what happened? I don't remember that. You went with Usong, I think. I went with Usong. Yeah. Me and Usong flew to Atlanta and went to a crystal restaurant for a podcast. I think you went at like, didn't you also go at like 11 a.m. to crystals?

Yeah. We went in the morning. Well, that's, if I can do it, I'll go in the, I'll go first thing because I like to knock out my unhealthy meal early. Eating something very, very indulgent at night usually sets me up for a bad sleep. So if I can get that early, that early heavy meal out and that's ideal for me. But Jen, I want to return to Wendy's real quick. As a Wendy's fan, what do you go to?

What do you get there? What's your go-to order? I mostly will just go with the number seven, I think, which is the spicy chicken meal. Hell yeah. So good. Classic for a reason. Oh, it's the number six. God damn it.

I always mess that up. I feel like, I know that I'm wrong, but I feel like it used to be number seven and they changed it. It's possible. There's a lot of menu, like I'm not very confident in my menu, like combo menu numbers. I feel like those get shuffled around a lot. Yeah. They're always changing stuff around, introducing new items.

Like the number one, McDonald's is a reliable one. That one I just know I'm locked in. That's going to be big Mac meal, but other places I'm like, I don't know what number four is anymore. Yeah. Nick, let me tell you, let me tell you that I would probably order three spicy chicken sandwich meals, but I'm, I'm afraid of the devil himself showing up when I, if I order that.

Right. You better hope it's seven. So instead it'll be like a casino jackpot. Yeah. Or our God, is that God's number or three sevens God's number is that, is that, is that a thing? I think in Bruce almighty. Yeah.

I think that's a joke in Bruce almighty is that he's like seven, seven, seven and I've made it now, like 15 years after that movie came out. But if I'm not getting a spicy chicken sandwich at Wendy's, I'll get just a bunch of nuggets and some fries and a frosty, but I've never even tried the Wendy's burger. That's amazing. Wow. What the hell? I don't, I don't feel like I need it.

Do you just prefer chicken? Is that the, you prefer chicken over beef? Um, I guess in general. Okay. Yeah. But I mean like at McDonald's other way around, I'll always get a burger, never getting chicken. No nuggets? No, I hate the McDonald's chicken nuggets.

Wow. Whoa. Wow. You, this is wild stuff. You're going to get something. Don't like it. There'll be some, there's going to be some angry fat guys that are going to be at you. Oh no.

I don't want to get added. I'm adding you right now, pissed off. Um, you, you've never had the Wendy's burger. That's, that's, well, besides that, I respect that you love the spicy chicken sandwich. Where do you rank? Do you think that's the best chicken sandwich in all of fast food? How do you feel? Oh, whoa.

Interesting. Um, yeah, I, I guess I'm trying to think what other fast food places have like a chicken sandwich. Again, a lot of people. Burger King has the big long one. The burger, the long chicken sandwich at Burger King is solid, the, the, the, um, there is a, the Wendy's one obviously the McChicken some people really like, but I think the big contenders are, and I'll throw the Popeye's chicken sandwich in the mix.

It's, it's Popeye's chicken sandwich, Wendy's spicy chicken, and the Chick-fil-A sandwich. And it just, I think it just comes into, it comes down to like which one you grew up with or which one you've had more. Yeah. I gotta try the Popeye's chicken sandwich again, cause I, we didn't really have Popeye's like around me growing up and so I haven't really had it that much, but then I got just like a regular Popeye's order in Atlanta when they were still sold out of the sandwich and I just got like chicken tenders and they were amazing.

Yeah. So I feel like I had a fluke sandwich experience. Popeye's is S tier fried chicken as far as I'm concerned. I mean, it's just, it's just really good. Now I haven't had some of the other regional ones like your Bojangles, which are only available in the South that I've heard good things about, but you know, if you're, if you're weighing Popeye's versus KFC versus churches, I think Popeye's will, will almost always be my preference.

And, and I think, but, but the chicken sandwich, I've had, the three times I had it when it initially came out and the time I had it when they brought it back, it was good every time. Okay. I, I thought it was, I thought it was excellent. And that to me, I would say is, is my number one chicken sandwich at the moment. I do like the Wendy's spicy chicken quite a bit. It's very solid and, and I'll always be craving it, but I just think the level of quality in that Popeye's sandwich is so high.

But as far as fried chicken goes, number one is Popeye's. Number two. Popeye's. Number two. He was trying to over crack from saying Popeye's and he ended up with saying Popeye's. Popeye's is number one. Popeye's. Popeye's.

Popeye's. Number one is Popeye's. Number two is. Number two. Call me Hozier. Is it Hozier? Hozier? Hozier.

I think it's Hozier. Hozier. Hozier. Yeah. Cause take me to church, Swagger. Yes. Churches. That was all worth it, especially when I didn't know how to say the band's name.

So it was very, I mean, this is all worth it. Everything we've done so far has been worth it. Yeah. I think the, I really like the, I do like churches quite a bit. And I think churches is, churches is very, churches is very good. I'm not going to sell churches short. I mean, I mean, it, the thing is fried chicken is like so good. And I think you really have to, it's just like inherently so good, not that I've never

had bad fried chicken, obviously that you can have bad anything, but I feel like. Yeah. Are you doing, are you doing a parody of a fast food podcast? The thing about fried chicken is it's so good. The fuck is this? I'm turning, I'm just doing this very straight laced food analysis. I'm turning into Jonathan Mays. The, yeah, I mean like the business week fast food and at an analyst or whatever fucking

who you love. Who we both, who we both like. I like, I respect the work of Jonathan Mays, but yeah, I don't know. I guess that was kind of, yeah, that's what a fucking very on the nose, straight ahead fast food podcast would say. Also, I don't know. I got another hot, I got another hot take for all you listeners, french fries freaking rock.

Can I, can I spit some fire at you guys? If you're going to get a fountain drink at a fast food restaurant, make sure you get some ice. And you might want to have a straw. Ice cools it down and also when you're done with the drink, you can crunch it around in your mouth. It's pretty cool. Pretty cool.

I don't know if you guys know this, but when you get chicken nuggets, you can dip them in a sauce. There's a great hack for you. Yeah. This should just be our format from now on. I bet it would be more popular. It's positive. I feel like it's very positive.

If you get a burger, try a slice of cheese on that bad boy. Really wake it up. Jen, I want to ask you, I know that you are playing, you are also playing Animal Crossing New Horizons. Are you starting to get over it like Mitch has? Or are you still thoroughly addicted? I feel like I'm not starting to get over it, but I feel like I'm not as addicted as I was. I think it's for a very stupid reason, which is that I am not getting enough cute things

for my home. It's tough. Yeah. Go ahead, Mitch. I was going to say, I've been to her island and your island is incredible. It's great. There's skeletons that welcome you as you walk in. Yeah.

I have two skeletons that welcome you. It's so scary as shit. My, Wager, you might not be able to handle that. I don't think you're going to handle it. I'm afraid of the devil. Wager hates skeletons. I don't like to have one of my body. Get it out of there.

Sometimes I wonder if you do have, Wager, sometimes I wonder with the way that you twist and turn if you do have a skeleton in your body. My big question to you, D'Angelo. Your husband, Lucas, playing Breath of the Wild at the same time you're playing Animal Crossing, that to me seems like, I don't know how that works. Honestly. I don't get how you guys are doing it. It's a one-switch household, yes?

It's a one-switch household and it really, this will sound like a joke. I don't mean it as a joke. It really is like the biggest challenge we've faced in our relationship. I believe it. We had to establish rules and stuff. We were like, okay, if you're the person playing the switch, you completely forego the right to have any opinion about what's on TV. If he's playing Zelda, I get to watch 90-day Fiancé and he gets no say in that.

I don't know, he put on, I mean, we went through the first three diehards. I was paying attention to this as I was playing Animal Crossing. We had to, it's like a big shared custody thing. We're trying to figure it out. Both of them are like games that are huge, time sucks in a good way. I think that they're both so enjoyable, but they take up a ton of time and then also once you're in Animal Crossing mode, I can just keep going for like five hours and not even realize I went for five hours.

So it's that sort of thing where I feel like, I feel like you might have to be a two-switch household. It's like, yeah, that's all I can say. But it feels like that way lies madness. Like then we just never speak again. I will say that Natalie doesn't play Switch, but we are a two-switch household because I am a two-switch man. I bought a Switch Lite for travel, which is excellent, but the problem is the Animal

Crossing and very wasteful, a wasteful purchase, I'm aware of that, whatever, use your disposable income if you're lucky enough to have it however you see fit, but this is a wasteful purchase. But I got a Switch Lite for travel and it's better for travel. The Switch Lite doesn't have a ability to hook it up to the TV, but you take it on a plane or something, unibody construction, it's much lighter. It's delightful. I actually played it quite a bit. You can toss it around a little bit.

Toss it around a little bit. Toss it around a little bit. It's almost sturdy. Okay, easy. A little sturdy. I was great to... Wrap it around. Rough it up.

I'm grabbing it by the collar and shaking it. Nick, that was a birthday gift from you and the Doe Squad. Oh, yeah, we got you a Switch Lite for your birthday, which you celebrated in the ATL. That's right. What a weird year, a couple of weird years for you. Yeah, for sure. You were there, you were at my birthday. That was Jen.

We went to a... What's that? Pizza place. We went to a pizza place for your birthday. We went to a pizza place. Now, remind us, Mitch, what pizza place did we go to in Hot Lanta? You were forced to come because you were in Atlanta for my birthday. I made you come to my birthday that day.

I had a great time. I would have gone anyway. We went to... Oh, shit. It's the place that DeSano's came from, and now I can't remember the place. Antico? Anticos, thank you, Jen. Antico.

Yep. Antico, yes. I remember everything. I'm like, you went to Crystal with You Song. We ate an Antico Pizza. We went to Antico Pizza, which is very good, and then we went and a bunch of us saw a movie afterwards. But what movie did we see?

I don't know. Joker. Oh, we saw Joker. Wow. Wow. We went to your birthday just low grade worried that I was going to get shot. You were worried you were going to get shot at Antico if they were out of pizza, and you thought I was going to shoot off the place.

But no shootings. There was no shootings at all. It's a successful birthday. It was great. Except, you know, the movie's just fine. Right? I mean, Joker's just okay. I never saw it.

You have Simina. Oh, my God. I was in a state of cinema, and I said pure nonsense. My body was like, you can't even say it as a joke. Joe Biden just warged into you. Yeah, I never saw Joker. I understand. But there's some people who like love it, like think it's like amazing.

But then I think a lot of those people who I see who like just like love it and rave about it, I feel like are maybe dumb. Am I wrong? That there's like some people who just like absolutely think like it's like the best movie ever or maybe just like dumb guys. And that's okay. It's going to be a dumb guy. Now I'll be nervous to be at Weiger's house.

I'm afraid it's going to get shot up. But you know, if you like something you like, I have nothing to worry about because I've never been to Weiger's house and I'll never go there. So it's all good. Well, now we get the quarantine. I kind of hope that like you just said anyone who likes Joker is dumb and I earlier said I don't like chicken McNuggets and I would like to see like the hate and where it gets distributed.

Like, will you get more anger for that than I do? Yeah, we'll see is a man's opinion on a movie more inflammatory than a woman's opinion on fast food. I'm going to guess no. But we'll see. We'll let the internet decide. We'll see. We'll see.

Ken Jennings. I'm seeing he tweeted about the Joker here. Did he really? Yeah, but he didn't say if you liked it or not. So I'm trying to disprove your point of only dumb people liking the Joker. You're trying to find out. Oh, you specifically Googled Ken Jennings. He was the smartest man you could think of.

You know, just going on a roster of Jeopardy contestants. What is what did Arthur Choo think of Joker? What did Watson think of Joker Watson the computer? Yeah, I Watson's a dumbass. He did. Oh, didn't didn't didn't know what's in one human be? No. What's in one?

What's in smart? What's in smart? Wiger a big day for robots. Hey, Wiger, did you did you give him a congratulatory call? Hey, Watson. Good job, buddy. Fine. I'll do I'll go to the person that's one level above Ken Jennings.

I'm going to search Alex Trebek in Joker. Now I don't think Trebek has a Twitter. I'm guessing that he doesn't have a I don't think he does and he'd be interesting if he did. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you're going to find his opinions on Joker, but you know, yeah, I also feel like he hasn't seen a movie in a long time.

Like doesn't he see like he's stopped watching movies in like 1970? Right. Yeah. I think so. Or maybe maybe or maybe he maybe has seen Joker. I don't know. Has Alex Trebek seen Joker hit us up a hashtag Trebek Joker challenge with your guess yes or no.

One of the people who's correct will win a prize to be determined. So I got sad. I got sad. It was all stuff about how he has pancreatic cancer, which my father died of. Yeah. It's very sad. So a bad Google search. Bad job by me.

That'll bum me out. You know, you guys sometimes get the bummer Google search that's that's never you like you see like a or like you'll see like a viral video and then you'll like you'll like look for more and then you'll find out that person had like a, you know, the classic milkshake duck they call it. They had like a, they have like a racist Facebook profile or something. Or you'll like, or you'll Google like normal weight. Yeah.

You know, you'll Google normal weight and then that will be less than your weight or like average size hog, you know, mm hmm. Yeah. And then you see that and you compare yourself, you know, because you've searched average size hog, it, you know, you know what the, you know what's going to come up there. It's not going to be like the size of an average pig. Like they know what you mean. I wish, I wish it was average size of the size of an average pig.

No. Yeah. They can figure it. They can, these search engines can pick up on context these days. They know what you mean. I saw a pig getting walked down Franklin Boulevard one day. I've seen that before too. Yeah.

You've had pigs. A lot of fun. I've seen pigs outside of LA. Hmm. It's crazy. Makes you feel bad about eating them because they're just so cute. They are very cute. I just tried to watch a babe the other night because it's on HBO go.

And I was like, I'll check out babe. It's really for babies. It's not an interesting movie for adults. If someone like got like, didn't know who you were and got like your schedule breakdown of like animal crossing and then she watched a babe on HBO. Like how old do you think this person is? That honestly is one of the things that's like making me a little bit cool on animal crossing is like more like when you realize how much it really is for kids.

Like how Blathers tries to teach you about fish and it's just like a sea bass lives in the ocean and you're like, oh, this is first a child. I like other stuff. Yeah. Owl who runs the museum and you bring him fossils, fish and bugs and then he'll give you information on them, which is optional, but I'll opt in because I don't, I want to be polite. I learned from Blathers that koi are a derivative of carp.

I didn't realize that koi were carp. Oh, I didn't know that either. Yeah. They crossbred carp to give them different colorations. Maybe I should listen to Blathers. Blathers has a lot of good intel. You can listen to Blathers. So we were talking pizza, we spent, we had some slices from Antico.

What kind of pizzas do you like, Jen? I mean, truly all kinds, like I love a Chicago deep dish. I know that's like a very potentially divisive type of pizza, but I also love a standard just like, you know, New York Slice, someone who's never had pizza before. But yeah, my Twitter handle is famously Jen likes pizza. That's correct. So, you know, I do really enjoy it. Well, I was going to say, Nick, that just like how you've never had a burger at Wendy's,

you've never had pizza from Pizza Hut. Never had this week's chain. I've never had Pizza Hut. That's wild. Yeah. That's really crazy to me. What was your... Oh, sorry.

No, go on, please. I just, there were like, weren't that many around where I grew up. In fact, I don't know if there were any. And it was also like a more of a sit down restaurant at the time. Right. Because that's a big thing. The Pizza Hut was the parlor originally. It was this hut, this big structure, and you could sit down there and you could get

some pictures of soda for the kids, some pictures of Brew Dog for mom and dad. And it was a real hut. You had your salad bar, it was a blast. Roundtable Pizza, we went to in my hometown. That was the Pizza Parlor of choice. But I love a classic parlor. And then, you know, tail is old as time, they start reducing store footprints so that they can have them, these more kiosk-sized delivery and take out, you know, ones and locations.

And then the fucking parlors went the way of the dodo, which is a shame. I like a parlor. We celebrate your birthday party at a parlor. That's right. I mean, I think that you sadly missed the best of Pizza Hut in my mind, which is a bummer. But you know. Nick, what were you going to ask Jen? Were you going to ask her where her go-to pizza place is?

What were you going to ask? I was going to ask. Thank you, Mitch. So you didn't have Pizza Hut's around you. What did you go to for pizza as a kid? So I was a huge Domino's person. And you know what? Still am.

Yeah. I love a Domino's. I love it. It's just so. Domino's is great. It's just so easy. And so, you know, it's like the perfect level of fine. It's good.

I think it's different from if you want Domino's than you want pizza. It's just. Yes. It's its own thing. Yeah. Do you want a lava cake? Because those are great. But yeah, I was like a big Domino's person and then we had two local chains that were

huge. One was called Pizza Palace in Ardmore and then Bella Italia also in Ardmore and Pizza Palace I think is not there anymore, but Bella Italia still is. We my area has great, great slices, I feel like I feel like it's a good pizza spot. Yeah. I think the East Coast in general. Yeah, I had a, we'd never had a local pizza place we went to when I was a kid. It was always a chain and the chain actually our go to, we were a Pizza Hut family.

Domino's was something that I would get at a friend's place. But if we're going to take out pizza, we get Pizza Hut. If we were getting, there was a pizza that opened in nearby, nearby our place that was right next to a jack in the box and those were frequent spots for the family and for a little wiger in particular. And then the, and then when, if we were going to have a sit down like a fun time that would there we were going to the round table pizza and we're having ourselves a little sit down pizza gathering and I was playing some Cadillacs and dinosaurs arcade machine with some greasy

fingers. Yeah, but, but we had a lot of pizza, Pizza Hut growing up. Wipe your fingers off you. No. People were fucking, people were touching the joystick and their fucking hands were flying off because of you, you little fucking grub. That's where I get, that's what, that helps me, that helps me in the game. That's my trick.

That's my secret. I'm always greasy. So we would go, we, yeah, we would go to Pizza Hut a lot and I, yeah. I don't know if you've seen my screen. So Mitch has changed his background to be in Blathers Museum. We see Blathers the owl behind him and actually this is kind of amazing framing Mitch. You have an exclamation point over your head as if you are emoting in the game. And also Blathers is asleep, which is a accurate depiction of what people look like when talking

to you. Oh. Okay. The Angelo. That was like a Joe Biden burn. That was great. You make people sleepy. I, I, this is, this is the, this is, this is me with the exclamation point over my head

because Blathers just told me that fish come from the ocean. I gotta take a screen cap on this. Okay. Sorry. Ah, I'm there. Curry. I hate this. I took a screen cap of, of, of Mitch making this.

It's your, he's asleep, but it looks like both of your eyes are closed. What were you going to say, bitch? You're Domino's. Oh, and I was going to say Domino's pizza is a pizza chain in the United States of America. That's like a Blathers fact. We'll take a break. We'll be back with more dough boys. Welcome back to dough boys.

Our guest is Jen D'Angelo, our chain, Pizza Hut, founded in Wichita, Kansas in 1958. It is a Yum's brand brand, KFC Taco Bell, also under the Yum Brands umbrella, as well as recently reviewed The Habit, which we reviewed with our buddy, Emmy Blotnick, who introduced me to the term Ungepatchka. Yeah. You use it way too much. And the largest pizza chain in the world, Pizza Hut, technically is. Wow.

So how about that? That's crazy. Yeah. Very, very popular in, in Asia and the Indian subcontinent. So Pizza Hut is, has really, Domino's I think is bigger in the US, but Pizza Hut is bigger worldwide. So your, your first visit here, Jen, they have one thing they are offering right now. The Big Dipper Pizza.

Now I'll read the menu description of the Big Dipper Pizza. Nearly two feet of dippable pizza on Pan Style Crust. The Big Dipper Pizza comes without sauce under the toppings, but is served with four dip and sauce cups, two marinara, one ranch and one honey BBQ. So this is a dry boy, Mitch. Yeah. It's a dry boy. And you know what?

Big mistake, honestly. It's, it's an interesting, as I was eating it, I, and, and Jen, I want to hear your thoughts, but I was like, this to me feels like an appetizer. Yes. The way that this is presented feels like I would get like pizza bread as a starter at like a Chili's or something like that. And let's, let's start with a Big Dipper Pizza, which I assume you also got. I did get it.

And yeah, it just like the flavor of it, it was like eating just focaccia. Like it didn't even taste like cheese or pepperoni. I got like the half cheese, half pepperoni. Me too. And the only distinction between the cheese and the pepperoni was that like eating a pepperoni one felt like you had like a little piece of crunchy paper on top. Like nothing tasted like anything. And yeah, I think like it should have had sauce on it.

And then the dipping sauces were just like some fun extra flavor. It's a really weird concept. And I agree with you that it is that, that, you know, the, and by the way, we should mention half cheese, half pepperoni, those are the only two topping options. You can't just get any topping you want on the Big Dipper Pizza. You get cheese or pepperoni or half and half. And so it's pretty restrictive in terms of what you can actually get, which I don't quite understand because nothing about the, it seems like the normal Pizza Hut crust just in square form factor.

I'm not sure why you're, why it seems like it's made to order. I'm not sure why they're so restrictive on which topping combos you can have, you know, it's not like if you put sausage and mushrooms on this, that it would be like, whoa, this doesn't work anymore. You know, it just be like a different way of having it. But yeah, so you get, you get, and I did prefer the pepperoni, even though I'm someone who really likes cheese pizza, but the cheese here just didn't have enough going on. It was, it was just, yeah, it was just like a cheesy, cheesy bread. I don't know what, what did you think, Mitch?

I thought it was so appetizing. I like, imagine if you ordered this for like a couple people, how disappointing it would be. Besides the fact that you, besides the fact that like the idea of a dipping thing is not a great idea at the moment where you're like, everyone's dipping into a cup. Wow, great point. It's a, it's a terrible thing to be promoting at this time. Yes. Unless you're eating, eating it alone, which, which sadly I was just eating it alone.

But it, it, it was, it didn't even feel like a pizza. It sucked. Yeah. I was, I was worried because I, or no, let me put this a different way. So Natalie and I were very excited to have this because we're like, oh man, we haven't really just like had pizza during this period when we've been in lockdown. And so it was just like, oh man, we're going to get a pizza. This is fucking great.

And I think we, we enjoyed it. Like I will say, despite the deficiencies, they overall enjoyed it because it was pizza-like enough, but it certainly didn't scratch the itch of like, oh man, this is, this is pizza. To me, it was just like, well, I still want to get a pizza now. You know? Yeah. And also. Did you not, did you not?

Oh, sorry. I was just going to say, Jen, you go, you go, I'll get, I'm going to get back to this. I can't. You have to go. No, never. I'll sit here silently. Now I see why blathers went to sleep. The marinara sauce was also, I thought, very bad.

Like the, it was very watery and sweet. It felt like dipping it into like a candy. Yeah. It's very, very sweet. It's, it's, I had a roommate. And I guess this is a thing that, you know, I know that that, that, that, you know, is, it's, it's like a Filipino thing, like sweet spaghetti. And I had a roommate, I had a Filipino roommate and he would put like just literally add granulated

sugar to his, to his marinara sauce. And, you know, and I know it is a thing that some people like, but it doesn't work in this context at all. It's like, it's just way too sweet. And I think that is a thing about, yeah, go on. Well, yeah, just like isolating it makes it like, yeah, it needs a little something extra. It needs, it needs to be, it needs to be baked into the pizza with cheese on top of for you not to, either of you guys get anything, I hope that you guys got something else besides

this thing. I got, well, we should also, before we move on, I do want to talk about the other dipping sauces, but yeah, I did get, I did get something else. Now I didn't get anything else pizza like because this was, it is still pretty substantial. And I was like, Natalie, I know was just going to have literally two pieces and they're, they're, they're not like traditional pieces. They're like cut into strips. So, you know, like, like a garlic bread.

And so it was a lot of food for one man. I argue that it's not, I mean, sure it's substantial, but like it's a huge waste of packaging. The box is gigantic. The pizza isn't, it's not like a huge pizza. It's, here's, here's what I'll say. It's $12. So as far as price goes for this thing, it's okay, even though it kind of sucks.

But Nick, the dipping sauces that you want to get into that to me is also another issue is there was the candy tasting marinara, which isolated just doesn't taste that good. Yes. And then the, to me, the only plus side is the ranch. The ranch is a good ranch at Pizza Hut. I will absolutely stick up for their ranch. It's a good ranch. But then finally that's the sweet barbecue.

That's like another candy dip. It sucks. It's a honey barbecue. It's even sweeter than the marinara. Oh, honey barbecue. And you get two marinara cups, one ranch and one honey barbecue. Give me two ranch instead. I mean, that, that honey barbecue just didn't fit.

And it's so weird to be dipping a pepperoni pizza into barbecue sauce. Yeah. Or just, or just what, Jen? Or just like, don't say four sauces. Like it's a very weird thing to be like, you get four sauces and two are the same. It's like, why? Yeah. And yeah, the, the packaging is like very, it feels like a little bit wasteful.

Like they really want you to feel that it's like two feet long. Yeah. Yes. And it's a, it's a container if you could fit your pets ashes in. It's just fucking huge. Jesus Christ. Jen and I both have pets. You don't.

So weird thing to say. That's true. Is that what you were thinking when we showed you our pets? How big would their ash container be? I got zip and busters of ashes in my house in Quincy, Massachusetts. Oh, how about that? What are they? Are they, are they in a little box?

That's nice. Yeah. On the anniversary of their, of them passing away, I do little, I bump lines out of it. Jesus Christ snored up a little buster and zip. No, of course I don't do that. I do wonder what I'm going to do. No one thought you did. No one thought you did.

I'm going to, I do wonder what I'm going to do. I do wonder what I'm going to do. I mean, I, I hope that I died before Wally and Irma. That's the sad truth. I just, I don't want to live those two, but I don't know. Maybe I'll freeze them and try to have them be brought back to life later on. I, I don't know. They're too, Nick, I love them too much.

I love them too much. You're hoping for some sort of breakthrough in like transhumanism, trans, transanimalism, a way for, for animal, for like, you know, that whole transhumanist movement where you like, you could put your body, you put your brain into like a computer and then you live on forever. You're hoping for something like that in animal form. I want, I want Wally's brain. Once Wally is old and has passed away to be put into Ted Williams' body.

Wow, he's better at hitting homers. Hell yeah, Wally. Weird. I spent $85 at Pizza Hut. Come on. How did you do that? What else did you get? What did you get?

You want me to give you the rundown? Why don't you fucking relax? Yes, please. I got myself the half cheese, half pepperoni, big deep pizza with four dipping sauces, which is stupid, as we said. One, eight piece buffalo chicken medium breaded bone out wings from Wingstop, which I guess doesn't really count as, does it? I mean, it's part of the Pizza Hut.

It's not, it's not Wingstop. It's, it's its own thing. It's its own thing. Okay. Yeah. It's not, they have their own, it's Wing Street. It's, it's like an off-screen. Wing Street.

I'm sorry. That's what I meant. Wing Street. I also got those. Yeah. I got some, I got some bone in wings. I got some traditional wings. Go on.

We'll get to those. I got a ranch, a blue cheese stuffed garlic knots with marinara sauce. And for dessert, I got the ultimate Hershey's cookie, chocolate chip cookie. And I also got a medium original pan pizza. Wow. So you went for it. I fucking take this shit seriously, Nick. I don't know how much of a, this is like your commitment to the science of this podcast

and how much of it is you just wanted to eat a lot of pizza hut. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but. It's science. It's worth science. All right. I did not finish all of that, of course. Also wasteful, but I, for me, the, the big dipper I wanted to try, but more importantly for me was to get that original pan pizza.

The thing that, the thing that I remember loving at pizza hut. Yes. And do you want me to just say it right now? Please. It wasn't good. It, it tastes too like. That's a bummer. It, there's just something that happened where like you would go into a pizza hut back in

1998 or 97. I mean, even before then, but I'm saying like, yeah, the last time I remember really enjoying 98, 99, 2000, even you would go into pizza hut. You just saw Godzilla in theaters. You were hoping Godzilla. So this is 97 or. I think I don't know. It's somewhere around 98.

I think, right? Yeah. 98. Yeah. You just saw Phantom Menace in theaters. 98. You just saw Phantom Menace. You want to, you want to relax.

You know, you should Casper had those cool men. Nevermind. They had cool puppets of Casper and they were good. You saw Casper in theaters with all your bros. With all your buddies. You saw Devon Sawa at the end and you got all horny. One of the sexual awakenings for a lot of, for a lot of people is Devon Sawa as, as a ghost.

It's true. Yeah. Oh wait. No, he's, he comes back as human. That's what he comes back in human form. Yeah. But then he turns into a ghost again. Um, you and your boys are like, that movie rocked guys.

Who wants to go to pizza? I'm driving. You drive over to pizza hut. These are, these are, these are older bros, by the way. Um, yeah. Everyone's like 35. 35. They just saw Casper.

Uh, uh, wasn't stinky hilarious. They're saying on the drive over. Dude, stinky is fucking killer. Stretching fat. So I don't know how to handle the stinky fat cells actually kind of problematic. Don't you think? You know what? I'm stretched.

I think I'm the stretch of our group. I feel like that's me. Oh, you wish. Dude. No, I'm stretch. No, I don't know, dude. You're a stinky man. Yeah.

Seriously. That kid at the end was hot. Right. We all agree. Dude, I think he's a little young for us. Oh yeah. I'm just joking. That was just, I was like a stretch line.

Just joking. Well, maybe, maybe you are stretched. Anyways, you get to pizza hut. You sit down and they give you these cast iron pans, Nick. Yeah. You got the pizza in there. It's got a crisp bottom and you take a bite. It's crunchy.

It's buttery. It's delicious. That's just gone. It just is like, it's in the way that like, I know that people say like dominoes is like cardboardy or whatever. And it just feels like so, I mean, it's always been processed, but it feels even more processed. It feels even more just like nothing. And it bums, it bums me out because it was good.

It was good. It's disappointing. I mean, I feel like the only place you, if you want to have that experience in this day and age, you have to go to like BJs from the chain side. I mean, maybe you have a local place that does like that cast iron pizza, but, and that's at a much higher price point than Pizza Hut ever was. So that's a whole other thing. Jen, what else did you get in addition to your big dipper?

You mentioned wings. Yeah. We also got the, the boneless wings in the Buffalo medium sauce. And then we got boneless wings in the Nashville hot sauce, which is the limited edition sauce they say. I also got the Nashville hot with the, the traditional wings, the bone in wings cause I am something of a heat seeker. And this is, it was pretty spicy.

It was very spicy. Yeah. Yeah. He's neat to it. Yeah. And then I also got mini cinnabons for dessert. Hell yeah. Just a little box of mini cinnabons.

How, so you both got sweet treats, which I did not, how do those sweet treats stack up to the savory side? Um, for me, so also I want to say that I got two, uh, 20 ounce bottles of Dipepsi by the way. They're Pepsi product place. I also got two 20 ounce bottles of cherry Pepsi. And I wasn't going to say it cause I was embarrassed. Just like the Wendy's thing.

There's no shame here as you found out when it comes to, when you, when you, I mean, I guess it's just me. You maybe shouldn't say this around other people, but when compared to me, you have nothing to be ashamed about. Um, I, my, I thought the Buffalo, Jen, you got, you got some of the boneless ones with the, just like a medium, like just regular Buffalo sauce. Yeah. I, I think the ranch and the blue cheese there, Nick, I think you're right.

I think they do pretty good dipping sauces, but the wing street boneless wings are like very like, they're such a weird, sticky, like almost like plastic looking Buffalo sauce. When you get them, they're like coated in it and they're sticky in their, they're not, they're not the best. I mean, you know what? I think they are better than, I think that they've gotten better than, than Domino's. Domino's does like a big weird, like Buffalo, like chicken weird thing that they make melt cheese on.

Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. The chicken is not. Yeah. It's weird. Not great. It's not like quality chicken, but I maybe even like that better. Like the quality of chicken here is better, but it's still not like good.

And when you, when you think about like places like wing stop, which I incorrectly said was at Pizza Hut or even Buffalo Wild Wings, you're like, they have much better version of Buffalo chicken boneless and wing in. Yes. How come that doesn't translate over and those are huge chains. Why doesn't it translate over to pizza? How come we can't get them there? There's a wing stop close to us, closer to us than the Pizza Hut actually.

And I picked up at the Pizza Hut because it's a little tricky to deliver at our place. And so I picked up there, but I, these wings made me, I was like craving wing stop. And the same way that it was eating the pizza, I was like, man, I would love some real, the big dipper pizza. I was like, man, I would love like just some real pizza. I was eating the wings and like, actually the wings were, I liked better than the big dipper pizza. I got, again, it got the bone in ones.

And weirdly we got, it was in order to six wings, but was not an even distribution of drums and flats. Not a huge deal. Not the, not the end of the world, but I would prefer three and three, not the, I either got two and four. I might have honestly gotten one flat and five drumettes. It was, it was a very, it was notable, but the, the, I thought they were well sauce and I thought the meat was actually pretty, they were, they were good meaty wings and I thought

they were, I thought those were, those were quite good, the bone in ones. Jen, how did the, your boneless wings stack up? So I, like the first couple that I had when they were still like pretty hot, I thought they were very good. And I thought it was like, yeah, good quality meat and they were like nice and crunchy. But then the second they were not hot, the sauce did kind of congeal into like a kind of a weird consistency. And then it felt like a little bit disappointing.

And while I was eating all of my pizza hut spread, I was reminded of when I was a child, one Christmas I begged my parents to get me gold and I for the N64. Hell yeah. So I played it at friends houses and I was like, I love this game. Everybody's talking about it. I really need this game. And my parents very kindly went to the store to buy it and it was sold out. And so they were like, oh, they have the world is not enough.

That's the same. Oh no. It's a James Bond game. And so they gave me that for Christmas. And I cried like a monster because children are insane. And eating pizza hut felt like playing the world is not enough. It was like, this isn't what I wanted. This is just kind of the same, but different enough that it's disappointing.

Because yeah, it left me craving wings and craving pizza. Did you play the world is not enough while taking down a turkey sub from Wawa back in the day? Oh yeah, you know it. Hell yeah. Wow. I'm not as big of a Wawa. You know what I like for Wawa's, Nick? What?

Wawa pedals. Like when you're wailing on your guitar. Yeah. Yeah, I do like that too. Mitch, that was fucked up. That's the Wawa I prefer. You know what, Nick? Yeah?

Just to turn this into a little band party. I actually prefer drumettes. Wow. Your regular Kirk Hammett and Lars Ulrich. You're two members of Metallica. Is Metallica one of the only bands you know anything about? This is my next question for you. Yeah, that and the Dave Clark Five.

Let's get to our final thoughts on Pizza Hut. So we'll each give our closing argument, if you will, our overall evaluation of this chain. And then end by giving it a fork rating from zero to five. Dan D'Angelo, you are our guest. Your thoughts, your fork rating after your maiden voyage to Pizza Hut. So I just want to preface this by saying I feel bad about this. Because I feel like I'm bringing a lot of personal baggage to this rating. Because for a long time, Pizza Hut, when I was a kid, I never went, but I would see commercials for it.

It was so amazing. And I was like, that looks like ideal pizza to me. So I had it like really built up in my mind. And then, you know, I got the big dipper. I didn't get a regular pizza. Like, you know, I didn't experience Pizza Hut. It's full as it felt like, but here's my summation in my rating. When I got it delivered, it was they left it on my doorstep and it was wrapped in a giant trash bag.

Inexplicably, because it's not like it was raining or anything. They just put it all in a trash bag and left it for me as if to say, like, we know. And after eating it, I was kind of like, yeah, I didn't really need any of this. It just felt like such like, you know, like a hollow rendering of the food that I wanted. And so I think I'm going to give it one fork. Is that crazy? Has anyone ever given one fork before? You know what?

Not only has anyone given one fork before, they've given it to this exact same restaurant. Yes. Neil Campbell in his, the first one fork review of a chain reviewed Pizza Hut and gave it a single fork. The first time it had happened in the podcast. Wow. It's happened again. It's happened again to Pizza Hut. This blows my mind.

Pizza Hut can't catch a break. This blows my mind because there's clearly, there's clearly something wrong here. I mean, there's just clearly. Yeah. Wow. That's wow. Look, I think, Nick, should I just, should I jump into mine from here? Please do.

Please. I'll transition right into it. I think Pizza Hut needs its transformation into debt. What's his name? Devin. Devin. Yeah. Devin.

You wanted to be a hot little boy. Pizza Hut needs to transform into its little hot boy version of itself. I think that, I honestly think that Pizza Hut needs to pull the same thing that Domino's did, which even though it was bullshit, like you did notice a difference in Domino's and they were like, hey, we fucked up for a long time, but we're trying. It just, the taste of it now, which to me, it used to, it used to be like the big fast food chain that to me didn't. And look, I know that there's a lot of nostalgia tied to this, but it was the one that it's

like, oh, we're going to a parlor. A parlor, Jesus. This tastes more like actual sit down pizza. It doesn't, like Domino's is Domino's and I love it, but it is what it is. And Pizza Hut had like a different feel to it. It felt like you were getting a pan cooked pizza that you could taste the butter. You could taste the crunch. You could taste the ingredients, taste of good.

It's not the same anymore. I also, I should just get into what else I got. Of course, I got those two diet pepsis, but I also got those garlic, the stuffed garlic knots, which was actually probably one of the highlights, garlic knots stuffed with cheese in them with marinara sauce. Those are pretty good. Nick might, and then of course I told you about the pan pizza and the, and the wings, which the wings were just okay.

They weren't great, but they were my other problem with the big dipper. It's, it kind of gets cold too fast. They got there. It was kind of cold. It wasn't hot. Like, yeah, whatever. The big dipper sucked. I think the big dipper was not good.

Spoon man's part of the night, Nick. It goes to Hersey's chocolate chip cookie. It came in a little tin pan. I came in a little tin pan. I put it when it got cool. I put it in the oven. Nick, my, my Easter dinner that I had solo. I had leftover honey baked ham that we reviewed a week ago and I heated up some garlic knots

and I had some of that chocolate chip cookie again for dessert. And it was great. The chocolate chip cookie is good. It's a good, it's a, it's, it's especially if it's hot. And if you have some ice cream in the fridge, some vanilla ice cream, Nick, which I know you love, put a little scoop of vanilla on there and eat it up. It's great. Delightful.

I'm going to go, I'm not going to go as hard as Jen on it. I'm going to go two and a half forks, but I think it really needs God, two and a half almost seems too high for what it was for eight. That was $86. It was a ton of food, but I mean, you didn't have to spend $86. Nick, that's because you got, you got a lot of science. It was science. It was science, but I mean, I wouldn't pay fucking 20 bucks for that.

It sucked. It was a bummer. Wow. It's not like, yeah, it was food that was like printed off of a computer. It's just like, it looks like. Yes. Food. 100%.

Yes. 3D printer food. Wow. Tastes like nothing. You know what? I'm sorry. Two and a quarter forks, Nick. Two forks one time.

Yeah. These are, these are, these are distressingly low scores for pizza. It's a bummer. Yeah. That's a bummer. The number one pizza chain in the world, you got the cash to fucking make your, your, your, you could, to make a quality product. You know what I mean?

Yeah. But also they must be doing something, right? They're the number one pizza chain in the world. Yeah. I think so much of that just comes from being. Pizza Hut. Being Pizza Hut, having that title. Honestly.

The inertia of continuing, you can just dominate when, when you reach a certain size because of, because you are that big. I mean, that's subway. Subway is nowhere near the best. So I want to return to our buddy, Jonathan Mays, reporter for restaurant business magazine. He has an article dated February 6th, 2020. Pizza Hut US overhauls its executive team. Now, obviously this is before coronavirus completely changed the landscape of, of everything

economically, but particularly the food service industry. We've all witnessed how it's been transformed. And of course, shout out to all of you out there who are working in food service or just have to work at all these days. If you have to go into your place of business, if you are an essential worker, I hope you're getting hazard pay. I hope you're getting, you know, safety equipment because a lot of these chains are not providing that for their workers and that really sucks.

But this is the article from, from Jonathan Mays. Pizza Hut is hoping a trio of executives from Sister Chain KFC can help its struggling US business regain its footing. So they're adding three executives from KFC, Yum Brands owns, you know, KFC, Taco Bell Pizza Hut. They are aware that they are in peril. Here's a quote from, from Yum CEO David Gibbs, who, who, you know, oversees the entire company. We're urgently taking steps to place the brand on a firmer footing to grow.

He had that Hockman's turnaround. This is one of the executives experienced with KFC and is experiencing consumer packaged goods. He worked with Procter & Gamble for 19 years before moving to KFC in 2014, make him ideally suited to work on Pizza Hut's turnaround. So we'll see, Mitch, they might be going down the road that Domino's went down and maybe they're going to, they're going to write the ship. Maybe, you know, after this COVID-19 crisis washes over the entire economy, maybe out

of the ruins of that, that maybe they can, they can have something of a comeback. Maybe they can have the Domino's story or, you know, in more recent years, a different, different sector, but also in chain restaurants. The Burger King story, as we keep saying, Burger King is back. Burger King made a comeback. And maybe Pizza Hut can do that. You know what? I mean, the test is time.

You know what? Just like the Popeye's chicken sandwich. It's true. The test is really time. Is the Popeye's chicken sandwich going to be an all time great? I don't know. It's very good right now. You're making a lot.

You got to wait. We're going to see if it has staying power. We're going to see if Pizza Hut can write the ship. Nick, you know what? Where I don't have too much confidence is that they took away all the parlors. I can't say the word parlor. Oh my God. What are you trying to say?

What are you trying to say? Parlers. They took away all the pizza parlors. There used to be a parler. There used to be a parler. There were parlors here. I worked at the pool. It sounded like you said power cords.

It did sound like you said power cords. Me and corn pop used to go down to the power floors. I think that them taking away the sit down restaurants was a bad sign right off the bat. It felt to me like, yeah, they were prioritizing money. I know that I know that in a lot of places, those weren't doing any business for them, but to take them all away, you can't sit down at a damn Pizza Hut buffet anymore. Yeah, the fuck out of here. You're making bad decisions.

You've made bad decisions. They didn't know their worth. They didn't. I remember at Workaholics, our offices were right next door to a Target. We would walk around the Target every day at lunch just to exercise. Got a simpler time there. Was this next door to the lot? No, it was in Van Nuys.

It was way out. But they had a Pizza Hut kiosk in there, and I remember being so sad when I saw that because I was like, no, it's supposed to be a place. Yeah. Same thing Subway did. Subway started adding kiosks, and then the overall product quality declined. I will say, I like the Big David Pizza more than either of you. I thought it was decent, just more of an appetizer than an entree.

And I thought the wings were solid. And so I'm going to go a little higher than either of you. And I'll say the service was great. The chain was great. They made the order promptly, and they were super friendly, great physical distancing inside the location where I went to go pick it up. Everyone seemed to have protective equipment. So that was all positive.

Hey, I just want to be clear. The delivery woman who helped out, which I got her name and now I forget it. What a piece of shit I am. She was great. And she also seemed like she had, because she was like, she was like, do you mind helping me out? And I was like, no, not at all. And she seemed like she was working like crazy.

So again, thank you to everyone. Thank you to everyone. Do you mind helping me out with your $87 order, sir? I've got this in a wheelbarrow. And I ate it out of that wheelbarrow, but I just want to say, we of course are very grateful to all the people who are delivering food and making food still, of course. My issue is with the corporation itself.

The place is bad now. The pizza is bad. Yes, I get the people of Pizza Hut Five Forks. They really were. Really was a great customer service experience. Yeah. So to the workers, the product needs a little bit of improvement. I am going to go a little higher than you guys.

I'm going to say this is a three fork chain. This was a three fork experience. Wow. But hey, maybe hopefully better days ahead are for Pizza Hut. Hopefully they can get things going where they're not. The next time we revisit Pizza Hut, our guest isn't also giving it one fork. Can you imagine that happened third time? It's only one fork.

It's only been one forks, Nick. It's only been one forks from our guests. Boy, hey, wait, that was our review of Pizza Hut. It's time for a segment. I've got a food related survey and Mitch and Jen will compete to guess the results. Let's play The Family Food. The theme song for The Family Food, of course, the Richard Carn Error Family Feud theme. You picked the Richard Carn Error, which is maybe the shortest error?

Error? Error? Error. You know, he was great as Al on Home Improvement. Hosting is a different animal than acting, as you guys well know. But, you know, he did his best. Hey, so our topping, since we are in Pizza Town, since we reviewed Pizza Hut, is most popular, did I say topping?

I meant topic. Yes. I said topping because I was at Pizza Brain. Our topic is toppings. The most popular pizza toppings in North America, 10 answers are on the board. Jen and Mitch, you guys will take turns and whoever gets the most correct without collecting three strikes will win. Alright, are we ready to play The Family Food?

Yes. So, will you just go one by one? Yeah, we'll just go one at one after the other. Wait, and it's most popular toppings. Most popular pizza toppings in North America is your category. Okay, great. I really blacked out for a second after the topping topic. Tobacco?

I fucked up, alright? I fucked up. Wow, look at this. You got a board up and everything. I do. I mean, this board doesn't work. This is just for sound effects. Jen should be able to go first, right?

Yeah, go ahead, Jen. You're a guest. You can begin. Thank you. I'm going to go with pepperoni, baby. Wow. Is that from the Nintendo Family Food? Yeah, from the Super Nintendo Adaptation of Family Feud.

Good answer. That was the only one I could find. I bet you asked for Jeopardy and your parents got you that. Like every little boy, I wanted to play the Jeopardy home game. And he cried. And it was just a couple of years ago. Number one answer, pepperoni. Jen takes it.

Alright, Mitch, your turn. Yeah, I'm in trouble now. The category is most popular pizza toppings in North America. Are you in trouble because that's the only topping you know? Yeah, I don't know what the other toppings. Alright, Nick, I'm going to go, I have another one in my head, and I hope that D'Angelo doesn't say it, but I'm going to go for the number two topping.

I'm going to go sausage. Come on. Good answer. Sausage, number four answer. Four. Number four. Fourth most popular pizza topping in North America. This is according to Foodler.

Foodler. Alright, this is a 2017 survey by Foodler. Alright, go ahead. Okay, it sounds trustworthy. It's up there. It's one of the more well-known polling firms. It nailed 2018. Alright, Jen, your guess,

most popular pizza toppings in North America, eight answers still up on the board. This feels like maybe a stupid answer, but I feel like I have to just say it in case there's some sort of trick afoot. Cheese? No, goddammit, that was my answer, and I thought you wouldn't think of it.

I'm going to give it to you family feud style. It's extra cheese is considered atomic. Extra cheese. Extra cheese, and that is correct. You got cheese. I think I judges award you points. Alright, Jen, you got two, Mitch has one. No one has any strikes yet.

Where'd extra cheese come from? What do you mean what is it? Where did it land? That was the number six answer. Number six is extra cheese. Alright, Mitch, still the number two, three, and five answers up on the board, as well as seven through ten.

Your guess, most popular pizza toppings in North America. Nick, it's hard because I don't think you can just say veggies. I think you have to get specific, right? I would not award points to veggies or meats. I think those kind of things are way too effective. Alright, just asking. For my answer, I am going to go... Can you not think of a specific vegetable?

It's one of my favorites, even though... See, because it's... Which one do they get more? Peppers or onions? You know what I mean? Peppers and onions is the topping. I'm going to go onions, because I think you can mix it up with onions more often

with pepperoni and stuff. And Mitch is correct. Onions number three on the board. Way up there. People love onions on pizza. Wow. Alright, Jen, your turn. I will say...

Are clues kosher? Can I give a clue? Is that okay? No. This is one that you've ever played Family Feud before? Okay, no clues. Alright, go ahead, Jen. No strikes so far.

Similar to the veggies question, do we feel okay with just saying peppers, or should I specify a red bell pepper? You know, like a roasted red pepper different than some sautéed peppers? I think that jalapenos shouldn't count as peppers. I think it should be like... It's like bell peppers.

Red and green peppers can count as one, yeah. Bell peppers, or yeah. Then I'm going to say peppers. You're referring to bell peppers. Bell peppers, yeah. Green peppers. Eighth most popular pizza topping in North America. You guys are doing gangbusters.

You were just clearing answers off the board. Alright, Mitch, you're up. Nick, I'm going to take a wild swing here. I mean, like, I should just say jalapenos, shouldn't I? You know what, I am going to say jalapenos. Jalapenos, Nick. Mitch has guessed jalapenos. I made this mistake when I didn't say extra cheese.

Mitch guessed jalapenos, survey says... Wow, Mitch gets his first strike. One strike for Mitch, jalapenos not on the board, green peppers, the only pepper entry. Alright, go ahead, go ahead, Jen. I got an X, fuck. One X for Mitch. I'm going to go with mushrooms.

Fuck. Mushrooms. That's a great answer. Are the number two item on the Family Food board. Number two, wow. Number two, mushrooms. People love mushrooms in the States. You just won this thing.

Well... Alright, I'm going to get wild, Nick. Go ahead, Mitch. Bacon. Bacon. Mitch, bacon. Now the fifth most popular pizza topping in North America. It has really climbed the charts.

It was not a big pizza topping when I was a kid, but it's gained as bacon culture, epic bacon culture, kind of took over in the 21st century. It's climbed the charts. Alright, we have three items. Amazingly, no one's been eliminated yet, and we have seven of the ten most popular pizza toppings in North America cleared off the board.

Jen D'Angelo. This is your game if you just keep getting them. What is your guess? This is tough now. You could X out though, too. What about pineapple? Pineapple. Interesting guess.

I say with a grimace. Pineapple, correct. Ninth most popular pizza topping in North America. Obviously polarizing, but there are enough people who love it. Do you guys like pineapple on your pizza? No. I used to, and then I became allergic to it. Oh, really? Allergic to pineapple entirely?

Oh, that's right. This happened so many times in Atlanta, where you and Sam Richardson both allergic to pineapple. Wow. That's a thing you can develop late in life. And I offer you and Sam Richardson stuff with pineapple in it all the time. I don't know how it happened so often,

but I would be like, do you want some of this? And you guys are like, it has pineapple on it. I just completely would forget. It was just everywhere constantly. That's Atlanta for you, the ATL. Pineapple City, that's why they call it that. Pineapple is my favorite fruit, Nick. I don't like a Hawaiian pizza that much,

but a bacon jalapeno and pineapple pizza is pretty great. You know what, Domino's does one. Domino's has a, I think it's the fiery Hawaiian. That is one of their prefab pizzas. That's pepperoni, jalapenos, and pineapple. And that one works great. I just like a classic ham and pineapple or Canadian bacon and pineapple.

Give me one of those. That absolutely works for me. No, no pass. But you know, I understand the people who don't like it. All right, go ahead, Mitch. Two items left on the board. You also have two strikes. Two more strikes here out of here.

I have one strike. I have one strike. You have two strikes left. Yes, you have one strike. Okay, got it. I'm going to go with, this is kind of easy, but you know what, it might not make the list, but I'm going to say chicken.

Chicken. Is it like bacon, one that has had an upsurge in recent years? Survey says... Am I forgetting something? Oh, shit. Oh, Mitch, you have gotten your second strike. Chicken is not on the board.

Wow. All right, Jen. I think you can effectively clinch the game right now because you have five correct. If you get one more correct, you will have six and there will be no way that Mitch could possibly win. What is your answer? Olives.

Jen, you'd be good at Family Feud. Black Olives, I'll give it to you. Number seven on the board, Jen D'Angelo. You have won the Family Food. And... For the listeners, for the... For the listeners, for the... All right, stop playing the damn song.

Stop playing it. I like the remix. It's a little funky. It sounds like Richard Karn is underwater when you play that song. I just want to tell the listeners at home that Jen D'Angelo was dancing as that song was playing. Congratulations, Jen.

Congrats, Jen. Thank you. Nick, hit me with the last two that we missed. You actually got nine out of ten and Mitch, you didn't even get your third strike. Do you want to guess just for shits and giggles if you can get number ten on the board? Yes, we might not let us finish this game off.

I'll strike out and then maybe Jen will get it with her last guess. Okay, go ahead. My guess is... Olives? That's everything. Mushrooms? I mean, ham is a possibility, but...

I mean, I should just say ham, huh? And that means, like, with the Hawaiian pizza, that's a ham? Ham. Mitch, I'm sorry. I can't play the sound effect because I stopped sharing my screen, but you have gotten your third strike. Oh, no, was it beef?

It is not a meat. Jen, this is overtime, so the game's decided, but do you want to take a swing at it? Oh, wow. Well, I feel like I just got a clue, and I feel like that's unfair that it's not a meat. You kicked my ass. I suck at Family Feud, I found out.

You were fine. I still don't feel good about peppers. I feel like I stole that answer from you, and neither of us is happy, nor will we ever be. It's fine. I was going to say anchovies, but if it's not a meat, then I feel like I got everything that was on a supreme.

Artichokes? Not artichokes, but I think you're getting there. This one, again, I won that didn't used to be a big pizza topping, but hey, when we were at Pizzeria Regina, YouSong demanded it. These millennials. Oh, lettuce arugula? And they love spinach on pizza.

Spinach. Spinach. Ew. YouSong. God. I kind of like it. Not for me. I don't want to yuck someone's yum,

but it's not for me. These perverted Popeyes eating spinach and ass. Hey, that was the Family Feud, just like a restaurant you value your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today we have an email from John from DC. John writes, I don't normally drink pop.

Shout out to Don't Stop or We'll Die, unless I'm on a long road trip or want to jack and coke at a wedding to give me an extra boost, both because I know it's bad for you and I feel judged when I do, but I've rediscovered just how amazing Coke and Diet Coke are

while I've been locked down. Are there any snacks slash food items that are normally on your no-go list you've gotten back into over the last couple of weeks? Pringles also come to mind. Man, those things are good.

Jen, anything that you've gotten back into while you've been locked down? I just want to say, I disagree on the, I don't think Pringles are that great. I don't love Pringles. I don't love them. Yeah, they're fine.

They're not, they're some Lays, salt and vinegar Lays chips. Give me those. Pringles are a trick because when I was a kid, I was like, oh, Pringles, those are like the fancy,

those are like the good potato chips, but then they're more processed than like even the cheapest potato chip because they take a bunch of like fucking potato powder and they crush it into a log and they slice them so they get those,

that shape that stacks. It's unnatural. They are, they're like starchy. They're like fucking, I don't think they're good. Yeah. They made fools of us. They're like, put it in a can.

They'll think it's nice. Yeah. We did. We think cans are nice. We like cans. We love cans. Nothing against cans. I actually,

what's the name? John from DC. John, yeah. We're kindred spirits. I, I am like fully addicted to Coca-Cola. It's a problem. I love it so much.

Wow. A straight Coke heavy. And I was like in the process of like finally trying to cut back on drinking Coke. And then for like the first week of lockdown, I was like,

or no, I, in my last grocery run before the lockdown, I did get like a thing of Mexican Coke because I was like, oh, I'll have like a little treat. And then that went real fast.

And I got just a straight up fridge pack of 12 ounce cans of Coke that I've been going through. Wow. And it's just so great. Yeah, that's a treat. I mean, I'm with you.

We, I found, we found this out about each other in Atlanta as well, that I, we're both Coke fiends. I'm a big Coke fan. I love Coke.

I, I, I've been trying to eat well, Nick. So I haven't been doing Coke, but I like need a Diet Coke. I need, it sucks that I like so to so much. And I know that Diet Coke isn't even good

for you, but I that, you know, it's the, it's the better of two evils, the lesser of two evils. Sorry. Yeah.

For me, the thing that I've been snacking on that I don't usually snack on is that I went to the grocery store when this all went down. And I haven't been back since. But I got myself a package of Snickers ice cream bars. And there's six.

And over the course of three and a half to four weeks, I ate all six of them, which isn't bad, but I shouldn't have got them at all. And I, and I love them. I also have been eating cereal more. I told you I,

because I went shopping probably later than everyone else by just like a couple of days, the shelves were empty and I got cinnamon frosted flakes. And that was like one of the only serials left on the shelf. Besides like a cashy.

That was just wood pieces in a box. It's terrible. And so, I did the cinnamon frosted flakes. And I was like, this sucks. This is like the shittier version of frost flakes. Grew to like them a little bit over time, but still frosted flakes are the number one.

And I feel like I'll probably try to get a box of frosted flakes on a sales day away and maybe just get some sort of raisin brand instead. But I'm craving frosted flakes at the moment. Yeah. Mitch, speaking of family feud, I'm going to steal your answer or maybe you stole my answer

because I was thinking about breakfast cereal. You know, for the first, first little stretch, I was doing a good job of like, I'd get up and I'd like make myself. I mean, I think I mentioned this on a previous episode. I'd make myself like a little scramble

with just like, like some, some, some spinach in there or some green peppers and maybe a lean protein. And I'd have that little, like a little two,

two egg scramble with some, with like a, some berries on the side. I have like a very, like healthy, helpful breakfast. And then naturally I just reached a point

where I was just like, man, this is, I'm just, I'm too tired to do this. Like I don't want to do this. Like I get up and I know that this is not that much work, but it's just enough work where I'm like,

I just want to sip, sip some coffee and not have to think about what I'm putting in my body. So I've been having some breakfast cereal and you know what, it's great. My compromise,

I throw some oat milk on there. So I'm not going to get, in case you don't know, I put some milk on there. So I'm not going to get, in case of the rumblies from that, that full dairy milk,

the milk heavy, if you will. And, and the oat milk, it do pretty well. It actually gives me the, the good amount of energy. I do skim milk,

but I even that was, so I think I might do some lactose free milk next time. I heard lactose free milk is pretty good. It's, so lactose free milk in my experience,

I've had it and it's a little, it's a little sweeter than normal milk. So I don't know, but it is definitely easier to digest. Jen, how are you with dairy? I'm okay with dairy,

but my husband is lactose intolerant. So we usually have like a lactose free milk or no milk. Right. In the house. So I don't really, yeah.

But yeah, oat milk is pretty good. Oat milk is good. I like oat milk. I think of all the milk alternatives of all the dairy free milk alternatives. And I fancy myself the dairy dude,

but unfortunately milk is so strong, so potent. I can, I can only have it minimally. I am better with things that are more processed like cheese or cottage cheese, but just straight milk is,

is tough. And so I, you consider yourself the dairy. This reminds me. Yeah. We discussed this when I was on the double in Mitch's hotel room.

A horrible sentence. But why do I think you and I share the, we're both, I forget the term. Cream seeker? Creamsman. We both like a,

Creamsman. Creamsman. Yes. Oh God. What a horrible minute for me. This last minute was when I was on the double in Mitch's hotel room.

We were both creams. You both were creamsmen. This is the worst day of my life now. Sorry. Yeah. Pretty common. Yeah. It's the common

dope voice thing. Get that tech, follow up text a lot. But I bought a thing of heavy whipping cream and made a bunch of whipped cream with the intent of like putting a bunch of berries in there

and then just like ate a lot of it, just kind of playing. Oh man. And that was like a lunatic quarantine lockdown thing I did. Wow. That's amazing.

Hit us up with it. Hit us up with your your lockdown comfort. Hashtag lockdown comfort eats. What were you going to say Mitch? That is as ghoulish as Devansawa pre-transformation.

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Not one normal setup. When it blows over. When it blows over. I'll go with if. But what a delight to have you on the show. Thank you for sharing your Pizza Hut,

your first Pizza Hut experience with us and with our listeners. Do you have anything you would like to promote at this time? No. Oh, I guess, yeah. Watch Solar Opposites on Hulu on May 8th.

That'll be fun. Everyone's looking for something to stream. Check it out. Hell yeah. Jenny, you're so funny. Thank you for joining us in a... Yeah, we're sorry.

We'll have you in for a normal episode if you'll come back. I know this is the worst day of your life. Yeah, this is bad. This was real bad. I definitely feel weird that I made this embarrassing

admission and Nick immediately ended the show. No. Until next time, just move back to Michelin, Nick, while you're happy. See ya.