Doughboys - Popeyes 4 with Van Robichaux

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

Van Robichaux (Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Fist Fight) joins the 'boys to discuss Jacques-Imo's and Postmates robots before a review of Popeyes. Plus, the 'boys give up treats they hold dear in the return of My Snackrifice.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Subway, McDonald's, Starbucks, Yum Brands, aka KFC, Pizza Hut, and Taco Bell. These are, respectively, the world's four largest fast food companies. The fifth, Restaurant Brands International, a Toronto-based holding company that has its origins in the 2014 arranged marriage of stalwart Canadian coffee and donut shop Tim Hortons and American Whopper purveyor Burger King, aka McDonald's Pepsi. In 2017, this new fiefdom further grew its territory by acquiring the second largest U.S. fried chicken chain, founded in Louisiana in 1972 by eccentric entrepreneur Al Copeland. In 1975, the restaurant had rebranded with a name Copeland claimed was inspired by Gene

Hackman's character in the hit film The French Connection, though that seemed conveniently designed to evade a copyright claim via the beloved spinach chugging cartoon Sailor Man. And in 2019, after becoming enmeshed in the RBI Empire, the poultry chain launched its own chicken sandwich designed as a Chick-fil-A killer, an event that would prove this past decade's most seismic event at fast food. The resulting long tale of copycat chicken sandos even led Burger King to launch its own breaded bird in a bun varietal, speaking to the surreal late capitalist dystopia where corporate partners under the same ownership ostensibly compete for market share.

In 2021, restaurant brands and international grew once more, sucking up sandwich shop firehouse subs like a conglomerate Kirby. But as companies combine into a handful of corporate entities themselves owned by an even smaller handful of investment firms, can they retain the unique identities that made them so valuable in the first place? This week on Doe Boys, we return, once again, to Popeyes. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, Dante's DiGiorno.

The Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Like Dante's Inferno. Inferno, but DiGiorno. That was courtesy of Ian in his email. Perhaps with a little bit of hubris says, three good roasts, claims to have set in a triforce of good roasts. Dante's DiGiorno is the first. The other one's the Uncrustable Hunk.

I'm sorry, the Uncrustable Hulk, rather. I mangled that delivery. The Uncrustable Hulk. That one's better. I think that one's pretty good. And H.O.L.A. the Honey. That one is an Attila the Hun pun, roastspoonman at gmail.com. Attila.

Why did, oh, eight. He had to get an eight. H.O.L.A. the Honey. All three of them aren't that good, but I would say that the, if anything, Uncrustable Hulk is close to good. Yeah. They're all fine. Thanks, Ian.

I mean, yeah, a little too much hubris from this person. That. Whatever. Look. Wait, what was it again? Dante's DiGiorno. Dante's DiGiorno. Well, it's funny because Dante's Inferno isn't H.O.L.D.

The deepest level of H.O.L. is H.O.L.D. The deepest level of H.O.L.D. is H.O.L.D. That is where the three faces of Lucifer eternally weeping Chew on the three. Betrayers for all time in my memory. I'm trying to remember who those are. I think one of them is Brutus and I don't know who any of the other ones are. Ray Allen for going to the Miami Heat after winning a championship with Boston Celtics. Yeah.

He's forgiven now. He's out of hell. He's back. He's back on Earth, which happens sometimes. They made three of those Tom Hanks Dante movies. Don't forget there's the third one, but they made like the fucking, what was the first one called? The Da Vinci Code.

They made the Da Vinci Code, and then they made two more. I think the second one was also they did. I don't think of them as Dante movies. I think of Dante's Peak as Dante's, Dante movie. They made one of those. They made a sequel to Dante's Peak. Overdo. Bring back that IP.

Well, it's rough performance by the Lakers this weekend. On Sunday. Yeah. Well, wait. Well, on Sunday, as of this record, they won against the Nuggets. They won the season finale. Oh. The team sucks though.

I was talking about winning time. Oh, you're talking about the TV show, Winning Time. I'm not caught up. I'm not caught up on the Adam McKay HBO Max series, Winning Time. How are the real life Lakers doing? Not great. They're not doing great. They're terrible.

They have absolute debacle of a season, horribly constructed team. They respond by firing the coach, which Frank Vogel, not his fault. He didn't build this roster. Just complete mismanagement. Just a total front office debacle. Meanwhile, Wigs, we're not scared. We're the two seed. We're going after Brooklyn.

We are. You mean the Boston Celtics. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, they include me. The episode record as of this episode release, they will probably be in their first round series against whoever comes out as the seven seed from the little play-in tournament. Do you think the Cavs can take it? I mean, I think it's possible.

They have no Jared Allen, I don't think, for the play-in game. Look, this will all be the distant memory by the time this episode releases. But also, what are you supposed to do? You're not supposed to talk about stuff on podcasts that's happening. It's not supposed to happen. You can talk about other stuff. You can talk about evergreen topics. You could be conscious of our release calendar.

That's boring. You have to talk about stuff that's happening. We were having great banter earlier about Tom Hanks' Dante's trilogy. You got it wrong. People were loving that shit. So when does this come out 2024? Yeah, this will be out. We'll be in the thick of the next presidential election.

I guess this will be out in a while. You famously said that Hillary Clinton had won and become president. You were wrong. I know. I mean, we could have changed. We had time to change it, but we thought it was funny that that was baked into the episode, and then it ended up just bumming people out. Yeah, people said it was depressing.

People said it was traumatic, because that episode released the Thursday after election day or whatever when Trump won, and it had me saying that congrats to Hillary. You're a hero now laughing at you. You know what? I wouldn't have changed a thing. Maniacally. Wait, what am I trying to say? Not even in a global sense.

I wouldn't have changed the outcome of the election if I could. It all went down great. Maniacally. Maniacally. Maniacally. Maniacally. You know what we could have talked about? Ambulance.

Yeah. Michael Bay's ambulance, fucking banger of an action movie. You know what? Yeah. Now, I might as well take a ride in the ambulance because it bombed. I'm upset that it did not do well at the box office, but I think it will. Me too. I'm being serious.

Yeah, me too. I think it will continue to be seen over the years, because I think it is a bothered action movie classic. Just absolutely fucking a great movie. Such a classic. You think it's a TNT movie? Yeah, I think it will be okay as far as that goes. It will make its money back.

Anyway, we're going to get our guests in here. Oh, wait. Yeah, I just saw the guest. I've changed my mind. That was going to be mean to me. That was it. I can't joke with a friend. We'll get into that.

All right. Oh, God. Anyway, how the hell to Spoon Nation? Oof. Rough performance by me there, Wikes. Here we go. You're doing great. Here, Wikes, is a little drop.

So many puns from you today. What's in the water in Massachusetts? I don't know. I am being very punny today. You got a little giggle juice in you, boy. You know what? Here's another pun for you. I do it all for the b-

Yeah, that's drop eight. Wow. There it is, Wikes. That was the drop. Wow. What was the original thing you said? I do it all for the what? What got bleeped?

Was it like I do it all for the- The brookie. The brookie. Because we were talking about the brownie cookie hybrid in the context of Firehouse Ups. I do it all for the brookie. The brookie. So you can take that cookie and mix it with a brownie.

That's good. Why wasn't that the drop? I don't know. Instead of- I mean, like, maybe that's the Hollywood Handbook guy said that I like Milf Pussy. You know this story? I haven't heard any of this. I believe it though.

They said that. God damn it. That's what they- That's what they- They open up their show with that at one point. That's funny. Hello. Is this good?

No. But it clocks in at 20 seconds. I couldn't bring myself to mess around with Fred Durst samples. Hey, there you go, Wags. There you go. You guys are great. Jonathan Bronson. I like this guy.

Good job, Jonathan. I almost said Johnson. I combined Jonathan and Bronson into Johnson. It's not his name. Jonathan Bronson. I'm sure a normal mess up for you. Okay. You're a hog seeker.

Let's get our guest in here. We got the Milf Hunter and the Hog Seeker. That's the- That's the dough. Forget Spoon Man and Burger Boy. Milf Hunter and Hog Seeker. And Hog Seeker. That's what it will be towards the end.

When the show is wrapping up. Yeah. I'm tired today. I booked travel last night for our stupid show. We're going to these places. Yeah. This will be, this is one of those things where you can kind of tell how last minute we do everything considering this episode is coming out while we're on tour.

Well I was looking up information. I try to do it in fucking November. I did. Yeah. But you're weird. I'm weird? You're a weird guy. That's the issue.

I'm weird? Yeah. I mean a big part for- One of my big issues in life is that you're weird. One of my issues, this is funny, maybe our guests can help mediate this, because one of my issues is you're weird. No. Like I have to deal with that all the time.

It's just weird. This guy would just be normal. Life would be easier. You can't take my issue and put it on me. It's not your issue. It's my issue. No. It's my issue.

You're weird. You're a weird guy. My issue is that you're weird. Dear God. All right. Get our guests in here. This is- It's possible-

Oh great. Great. Our guest will be the judge. Both of us are weird. He's normal. We have a very normal guest. We've got a weird guest too. We've got two weird hosts and a weird guest.

Emma, you're fine. You're weird too. You got lumped in with weird. Lay off of Emma. Our guest today, a writer from Brooklyn 99 and founder of Van Labs, creator of Mitch.Pizza. One robot show is here. Hi, Van. Hey, guys.

Great to be back on the show. It's been a minute. It's been a while. Yeah. I was actually- I looked it up. My last solo appearance on the show was September 8th, 2016, which was over five years ago. So we are talking back in the last, the thick of the last presidential election. Yeah.

Yeah. And then I appeared again with Evan Susser, February 15th, 2017. Mac 2 Fight episode. So it has been a full Mac 2 Fight. It's been a full five years since I've been a guest on the podcast. Wow. Time flies. Time does fly.

Yeah. It feels like it honestly could be like yesterday. Yes. But I'm really glad to be back. I have a question. Have you wanted to come back? Yes, Mitch. I've texted you about coming on the show every six months or so since then and let you know

I'm available and you've said, hey, yeah, we'll get you in. But you guys had important celebrity guests to have on. It's true. That's right. I have a list, but- Always great to have a, always great to, you know, when we get a celebrity in here and then they're like, hey, this takes like 30 minutes, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Similarly, I'm only doing, I don't know if you guys got this, I talked to Emma about it. I'm only going to do 30 minutes and then I got to bounce because I've got important celebrity stuff to do. Great.

That works great for me. Celebrity stuff to do. Celebrity is like, this only takes 30 minutes. They're like, you've done the show before. And they're like, oh, yeah. Let's take 30 minutes. We're going to get Rob Lowe back. Go ahead.

Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. I was going to say, I got into this, I'm sure everyone before tuning in went and pulled up my Yogurtland episode and gave it a full re-listen just to catch up, but- You did Yogurtland? Yeah. You guys gave me a real shitty place because I was supposed to do Popeyes.

I got into this before. I was supposed to do Popeyes one and Mitch did give it away to another guest. That's right. And I'm from New Orleans. It's the early days of Doe Boys. Where Popeyes- What am I supposed to do? Popeyes was based originally.

Popeyes started in a suburb of New Orleans, Araby, which is where I lived when I was born for the first year and a half of my life. I've got a lot of connections personally to it, but that wasn't important to old Mitchy. Do you know what the- This is seven years ago. It's that sort of thing of like, Popeyes was still maybe in like the Popeye, like that Popeye phase. It wasn't the Louisiana kitchen as much.

Yeah. I wonder if they've done the right thing. I don't know. I'm just trying to make an excuse, Weigz. I'm just trying to make an excuse because we didn't have them on. We had you on in the first dozen episodes or so, didn't we? The 68. Pretty good.

Yeah. We started in 2015. That is the first dozen or so. I think that qualifies. Do you know, Van, as someone from the town where this was founded back in 1972, do you know what Popeyes was originally called? Yes. It was called Chicken on the Run.

Emma, can we put it like a ding sound in there? Mm-hmm. Okay. Sorry to create more work for you. Absolutely. No, that's totally fine. All right. Emma's going to put a ding in there.

It'll be really great. It will be really great. And then now there's some people like it. There was a sort of a lawsuit and controversy involving Popeyes because they were heavily associated with the Popeye the Sailor Man trademark early on. And this is something people, especially New Orleans, were made to think because there was a local television kids show called Popeye and Pals, which the way that worked was they would show the Popeye cartoons.

And then between the cartoons, there would be like a live segment with like a bunch of kids sitting and watching the cartoons and a host. This was a pretty common format, I think, back in the like 50s and 60s on TV. But the sponsor of Popeye and Pals in the 70s was Popeyes, Chicken. Wow. Okay. And so... Emma, put a ding in there, too.

That caused people to associate the two. Eventually they got sued by King Features Syndicates, which is a subsidiary of the Hearst Corporation. And Al Copeland, the founder, claimed that he'd never had anything to do with the Popeye cartoon. It was named after Popeye Doyle, the film character from the French Connection, which is definitely not true. And I remember as a kid, they started putting Popeye the Sailor Man on the bags. And the reason was during the lawsuit, he just started using the actual trademark as

like a weird like power play. Wow. Like, you want to see trademark infringement? This is trademark infringement. I don't know if there was some legal theory that he was hoping they'd sue him for that and he'd say, well, if that's trademark infringement, what was I doing before? I don't know what. But he was a crazy restaurateur, this Al Copeland guy.

He died a few years ago. He was kind of a New Orleans local celebrity. He would race cigarette boats. Yes. I've read some of this about him and that I guess he had a big feud with Anne Rice at some point. He did. I believe she also died recently, right?

So now they're both feuding in hell. They're being chewed by Lucifer's mouse. What are you saying? I said they're being chewed by Lucifer's mouse. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. It sounded like you said Lucifer's mouse. Lucifer's mouse is also down there.

Mouser? He's like a, yeah, Bowser is the mouse. No, I said Mouser. Mouser, of course, from Super Mario Brothers 2. Yes. Come on, Wigs. I thought you said Bowser. Mouser.

Mouser. Mouser. Is it Mouser or Mouser? I only thought it was Mouser. Like not like a z sound, like a sus sound. Mouser sounds more like German and bad. Mouser. Mouser's got sunglasses, right?

He's got sunglasses. He's got sunglasses. He's kind of cool. Yeah, he's cool. Yeah, he's fucking awesome. Here's the deal. Time goes by fast. You can't keep track of stuff.

It's true. What are we supposed to do? Hey, want to feel old? The boy from boyhood just died of old age. Yeah. R.I.P. Down there now. The boy from, I said boyhood weird.

Yeah, he's down there now getting bombed down by Mouser. But he's smart. Like he'll grab a bomb and throw him back. Like which is how you beat Mouser. How did the kid from boyhood, how did he age faster than Ethan Hawke, died before Hawke? It's amazing. Hawke's in, Hawke's in Moon Night. Now look, I'm not someone who watches the MCU.

But Natalie was like, look, I want to check out Moon Night, I think because Oscar Isaac is very honky. I think that was part of it. I think she also just kind of likes some of that MCU stuff. Hey. So we're watching. We're watching Moon Night. You're part of the MCU.

Am I? The Mitch comedic universe. Oh boy. You know what? Our show should be like Showtime at the Apollo where if something goes wrong, there should be a siren and we should get fucking taken off the stage. Yeah, yeah. And then the podcast is just clown with the hook, the clown with the hook.

I mean, that would have happened much earlier in the episode is the issue. We never would have even gotten it. Of course. It'll only be a few minutes long. Everyone will be fine with it. Yeah. Yeah. They started talking about Tom Hanks's Dante's trilogy and then the podcast editor was like

the two minute, 52nd button mark. What's the Dante connection to those? I haven't seen them. Yeah. That was very confusing because they're Dan Brown books. They're Dan Brown books. I think the second one or the third one is called Inferno and that's why I always think of them as the Dante's trilogy.

Third one. Okay. Which is the least seen one. So I probably shouldn't think of them in Dante terms. It's the Da Vinci. Yeah. Da Vinci code. Okay.

Films. So I was going to speak up earlier, but I felt like I hadn't been introduced yet. So it wasn't my place. It's fine. I've been watching Ethan Hawke great. See, the boyhood kids. Yeah. That's what I was going to say.

Ethan Hawke's in Moon Knight. That's why I brought it up. Yeah. Sorry. The boyhood kids. It's great. They were like, we're just going to watch you grow and then I think he just couldn't stop.

You know what I mean? He just kept growing. He kept getting bigger. He's the tallest man in the world. He kept getting bigger. Then he was old. Anyway, guys, it's great to be back on the show after five-year hiatus. Now, Van.

Yeah. Well, you were talking about the Mitch comedic universe. You're in there too. You're in the MCU. It's true. I've heard referred to as the Bug Main Extended Universe, but I don't want to get into that. I mean, sure, he can have it. Just give it to him.

One of the reasons I'm glad to be back on the show is I've gotten a little heat from the fans on and off the last few years, especially on certain social media sites that will remain nameless. Me not being on the show, I actually had someone, I saw someone say that I had been banned from the show like Bug Main. Interesting. That's not true of me, and I don't believe that's true of Bug Main either. Not true of Bug Main either.

Can I get that? Yeah. So that's an official statement to you guys that I am not banned from the show and neither is Bug Main. We've already said that they're not. We've said Bug Main isn't banned. Well, you haven't said I'm not banned. I have Bug Main come on the Christmas special and he didn't respond.

That is like him. That is very like him. I was going to say some stuff about Popeyes now, I forgot. I will. Yeah, you were. You were about to say something. I remember. Yeah.

We were. I forgot. I do want to talk that you're not banned, but I do it because you mentioned Louisiana. You're banned, and we're banned. Last week, our guest Claudio Doherty was here and discussed eating at Jockey Mose. That restaurant was banned. Yeah. This was a recommendation of yours.

I went to it with Mitch and Natalie back when we were in New Orleans for a wedding a few years ago. Wonderful meal, but she in particular criticized the alligator cheesecake, which was a dish that I liked. Hmm. But I'm curious about your, like her issue was the temperature it was served at. I guess it was kind of came room temp, but I can't remember if it was room temp or chilled when we got it.

But I do remember liking it. What is it like? Like, I guess, I guess this question is kind of all over the place, but I'm curious about like your thoughts on Jockey Mose and why is that a place that you recommend to tourists? It's one of my favorite local spots. It's not really a, I mean tourists go and it's in guidebooks and things like that, but it's not necessarily like the most touristy place, but it is a very like New Orleans-y place with a lot of culture and things like that.

And the chef Jocomo, he's like a crazy character. He'll sometimes come around the tables and it gets hot in that kitchen back there. So he will come around and just be in his boxer shorts sometimes, which I perhaps inappropriate, but it adds to the character and they've got a button on there. Nothing's going to slip out. Don't worry about that. Sure. But you have to air some things out out here.

But I just, it's one of my favorite spots. I try to go when I get back. The food is a little rich, I'll be honest, but it is very rich. But I don't know, I'm just a big fan of it. And you know, they were able to keep going through the pandemic with some outdoor seating and they had some pickup trucks with the seats in the back of them parked on the street. That's fun. My andouille sausage is a little sweaty if you'll catch my drift, sir.

We're trying to eat our meals. Get it. It's pretty obvious. But the cheesecake, I'm not sure if that is intended to be served chilled. You know, I'm not sure if there's not really a guidebook on alligator cheesecake. Is that a savory cheesecake or a, you know, I feel like it isn't necessarily meant to be served cold. I can't recall the temperature myself either.

I could see how you could maybe be disappointed if you were expecting it to be cold. You take that first bite and, you know, that's a bite of warm gaita. No, I think she wanted it. I think she wanted it warmer. The temperature was like, okay, interesting. Now, was that your recommendation to her? Yes. That came through me.

I see. That's all thanks to me. It's kind of full circle. Wow. A great, a great place with the swamp people of New Orleans. You can't have a better time. It's a good spot down there. It's a nice spot to be from.

A great food town. It really is a great food town. Then you were going to say something about Suss while we were, we were going to talk about Suss a little bit, but there was something that you wanted to tell us and, and, and. Well, I don't know if this has been, has been covered, you know, on one of his many appearances on the show, but while he and I are working together on a top secret project right now, which I don't know if that's been talked about either, but this is part of the MCU. It's part of the, yes.

Mitch. Mitch. Come here. This, this top secret project we're working on is the, the Susser and RoboShow swan song. We are. We are going out on our own as independent artists to do our own thing. It is a very. It goes to Doughboy's future.

Yeah. I, I, I think he just had two, the, the duties of being a commissioner of the Doughboys was just taking, he felt it was taking away too much from our writing. And so he felt he needed to separate so that he could take that on more full time. He's on call 24 seven. So he's got a lot of, he's got a lot of. No. Yeah.

We are, we very amicably are, are moving on to a new, a new, new solo writing careers. No more ranch stains on your scripts. Ben. Yes. Yeah. But people who are, who are less familiar with the, with your guys working relationship, the two of you co-wrote a very funny movie fist fight. Yes.

And, and have, have worked together for many years and had a, had a widely circulated what's called a spec script in the industry, chewy about Peter, Peter Mayhew, RIP, that was that kind of puts you guys on the map and then you work together in television. But now you're going, you're splitting or splitting off, you're going your own separate directions. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, cause of death for Peter, Peter Mayhew, he read chewy.

Not correct. He did read it. Jesus Christ. Years before dying. He gave it high marks. I can't have fun. We're just having fun. For God's sake.

But yeah. And just to honestly talk business for a minute here, one of the big reasons that we're actually doing this is in Hollywood, when you work as a team, they force you to split a paycheck. Yes. And you can kind of negotiate a little bit over what one person would make, but you can't negotiate 200% of that. And you know, we both had a great experience working on Brooklyn Nine-Nine. But you know, every single writer on the show made more money than us because we had

to split a paycheck, which is like a weird situation because we were the only team on the show. I think it was justified. And actually there was another team. I take that back. There was a second team on the show, but the two teams were the only teams on the show. And so it's both funny teams. Well, like Hollywood is surely terrible in that way.

But anyway. Yeah. It's one of those things where it's like, oh, you guys work as a team, but that creates a labor disadvantage because to your point, you're splitting one paycheck, but whoever's hiring you is still treating you as two brains. They're still treating you as two different writers. So it's like we get two for the price of one. In the film space, it's a little more fair because you're creating a single product together

of the film script. But in television, you're just kind of in a writer's room pitching jokes. It's not like during the sort of joke pitching, punching up, we would like confer with each other and say one thing to the room. We would just both independently, of course, be working. And it's just a can be a crummy situation, right? And as the movies are being destroyed and how all work is in television and podcasting, we decided to just kind of make that transition.

So it's partly a, it's less a creative decision or at least it's partly a creative decision, but it more than anything, it's a financial decision. It's both. I think the creative part is after 10 years working together, I think we're creatively more and more interested in different things. And there is a crossover space for sure, and that's where we were working. But I think it was becoming more and more limiting for us to both stay in that crossover space.

For example, Evan is funny. Well, hey, Ben, you know, you were over here, you're helping with, in my new place, you're helping with tech stuff. You're helping me set up tech stuff. Yeah, I have been, yeah. And let me tell you, Van knows his stuff. Van knows his tech. Thank you.

A regular tech head. Yeah, yeah. A regular gear head. I also think you're funny. Computer brain. I think you're funny, and you know your tech. I was giving you a double comment. I was just joking when I said I wasn't.

I try to be funny. But no, I consider myself a multidisciplinary. A polymath. But yeah, Mitch, it's been nice to spend some time with you, helping tech support over at your place. He came wearing a tech, like a workman's belt. I did. I did.

I know this is a audio medium, but. He came wearing the belt. Van is stepping away. This is, I have alignment's belt. Look at that. It's a dwalt. The headset as well, you can just kind of jack it on the phone, lines up on the pole with that.

That thing's legit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was, it was, it was real, it was legit. Wow. Van, you're the head of, you're the head of Van Labs. Correct. Yeah. You know, you know tech.

I do. Are there any food technology you've been interested in? Like a, you know, say Postmates has the little robots that deliver now. I did have the Postmates. I had a Postmate robot delivery. I had my first robot delivery. Wow. Wow.

Wow. He got stuck on a hedge. I haven't seen one. I haven't gotten one. The robot. He got stuck on a hedge. Is that true? And a little secret, I knew this before watching it, but, so they used to have a person who

would follow the robots and had a little like emergency override button and they would have your butts on and like kind of just sort of like try and be inconspicuous. He was just following on. Someone that's supposed to follow it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And you would always like, you would see them and be like, you know, that's, that's a robot guy. That's a little robot minders. The robot minders are no longer, the robots are actually on their own now. No minder, but half the time or more, they're actually remotely controlled by someone who can see through the cameras and control it like a drone rather than so bad. People are going to fuck them up bad. So when it got stuck, it was like stuck, stuck, stuck.

And then all of a sudden it started driving very differently in a very like human remote controlling a car kind of way. Interesting. And that was them taking that they took over basically. Yeah. They took over. And what I was curious about, I was here on the lot when I ordered and then I realized it was a robot on the way because it tells you in the app.

And on the map, it showed where it was going to come deliver as like in the lot, like past security. And so I was really hoping the robot would try to just like blast past security and drive under the gate, but it stopped out front unfortunately and did not do that. But I suspect the human who had taken over after the hedge incident was the one doing that. Wow. That would be bad for security's sake if the Postmates robots just had carte blanche.

Yeah. But my hope is to come across one that's stuck or has a dead battery and to capture it, reprogram it and release it so it can be free. That'd be nice. They do on the Postmates app ask if you want to tip. And I was like, I'm not tipping that robot. Yeah, you should tip the robot. I think that Postmates is going to be keeping that tip.

I don't think that's what I wanted to the robot. Yeah, because sometimes these apps say like what percentage of the tip goes to, or you know, drivers keep all the tips or whatever, and I don't use it that very much, but... 100% of the tip goes to the robot? Yeah. It should. It should. Give them new wheels.

Get those wheels shined. I'm just, I'm worried for the Piper situation with the Susser and a bunch of guys falling behind the robot as it goes around town. Could happen. You'll be in that crew. Yeah, so who cares? That's why he's worried. Here's my question.

Yes. I don't really have a question. Okay, well, think about that question, Mitch. We'll take a break. We'll come back with it. That's how we're going to break? And more dough, boys. I'll give you gold this whole episode, we're going to break on me having a little mental

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Oh, that's fun. Going to maybe see a bird. Just that, just a one monkey, one bird. That's it. Hey, that sounds like a heck of a vacay. And you know what? Having some Spanish might be helpful down there. Nice.

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And you know what? This week's restaurant, Popeyes, reviewed thrice previously with Leslie Arphen, Andrew T. and Phil Rosenthal. Phil Rosenthal, Mitch, kicked it out of the Golden Plate Club. Only gave it three and a half forks on his last appearance. Jesus. It was founded, as we mentioned, in Louisiana in 1972 as Chicken on the Run, has over 3,000 locations.

Yeah, he's banned for life. That's the one name on the ban list, Phil Rosenthal from Somebody Feed Phil. You know what? Here's the thing. Popeyes is one of my favorite chains. A finalist when we did our chicken tournament, Mitch, chicken fight. I think if they had the chicken sandwich at the time, we did this back in the day before they'd introduced their game-changing industry, the earthquake-causing chicken sandwich.

I think they probably take out Wendy's. Back in the day, though, they did not, and Wendy's spicy chicken takes it. I love Popeyes, one of my favorite chains. How many more showrunners are going to get shows about getting paid to go around the country eating food? Let's see. If you have $100 million or more, there's a streaming service interested in paying for you to travel and eat at different places.

People have gotten you food for, like, 20 years now, well, now you're going to get paid to go around and eat food as well. The Doughboys, their show about fast food and chain restaurants, they don't get to do it. They can just sit in the fucking muck. But you, a former showrunner, why that's Hollywood? That's going to get the kids lining up at the TV. It's almost like they just pick up those shows to appease those important Hollywood people,

and not because they actually think anyone will watch. Interesting. I think it's all a meritocracy, so. Speaking of though, I was talking to you guys before. I think you guys should release the videos of your episodes. I think people would want to see that. We kind of just look like shit. This is the, we've talked about this, I think you're right, I think people would like to

see it. Mitch is also right that we do look like shit, so we'd have to get camera ready. But I think there's an element of, okay, well, fair enough. This is the thing that our listeners are not as conscious, not as aware of, because it's so well done, because we have the best producer of the business, but Emma Erdbrink will juice our records a lot. First off, to take out anything that's unfunny, so like their first, that's like half the length right there.

Yeah, the real record length is like four and a half hours. Yeah, so she takes out all that. But then also that we're, since we're recording remotely. Take one and then we can get Mitch canceled, so we go down, it takes about two hours. Mitch would have been canceled years ago if it wasn't for me. But then also, there's all these starts and stops when we're recording on the video call, because one person will start talking, another person will start talking, there's a lag. So she'll juice all of that, she'll get rid of all that, so it'll seem a lot more seamless.

This seems like a solvable technological problem, like I feel like an EDL and edit decision list could get exported from her audio software, and so the video cuts could be 90% automated that way. Sure. It's a solvable problem, but then the other issue there is then now the video that we have, which we have this four-way split screen of us and Emma and our guest, then that starts to have little jump cuts in it, or we have to start doing little zoom-ins to cover the edits.

Yeah, you crop in and you cover those edits. I think this is doable. It's doable. I think it's doable, and I think it's worth doing. I'm just putting that out there. Here's my pitch, and I'll run this by Mitch and see what he thinks. My pitch is that when we go back to recording in person, I assume at the Spoon Shack, but possibly at Headcom Studios, but if we had a nice little video set up, let's say we had

a nice little table, a nice little table we could sit at, the two of us, perhaps a guest, or if the guest can be remote, we'd have a little monitor for them to be on, and then we could have a nice looking master shot, and that would be that we could use that for our video content if we wanted to do that. I think we should just do little clips like stand-ups do. You know how stand-ups on Instagram, the big thing with Stamps is putting their little clips and then having the dialogue. They put like a little, like, they put like, they put a little subtitles up.

Yeah. I mean, I think the big thing with stand-ups is having a podcast that's a video released on YouTube these days, to be honest. It's true. I mean, it is. It's very true. And then in Instagram stories, or their Instagram posts are like, you know when you're at the bar and some girl comes up to you and then you're just seeing the subtitles of this shit.

It's like, yeah, we could hear it. I mean, I guess it's like, look, look. I think more people than you realize watch it on mute. It's great for people who are hearing impaired or mute. Okay. That's what it is. Yeah. They're not doing it for the hearing impaired.

This is not a generous. Stand-ups are not. It's not accessibility. It's not a stand-up thing. I agree. I agree. It's not. No, people watch a lot of content on mute.

I watch more content on mute than I realize. I'll just be looking at something. I was like, oh, I didn't even realize I didn't have the sound on it because I'm shooting the subtitles. Yeah. Those are helpful. Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I watched anything not on mute. This podcast is on mute for me.

I just get a live transcript. Is it jarring for you when you go to the movies and it's not muted? I bring my earplugs. Now that's the other thing. You guys don't have transcripts of the episodes. That would be cool. No, that's a great idea. That's not good.

No, that's bad. Searchable transcript. Searchable transcript. Searchable text of everything we've ever said on the podcast. Yeah. Yeah, five years worth of extemporaneous talking. I'm sure that'll be great. Remove from any context.

It should be like Twitter. We should delete. Our old episodes should just be auto-deleted. Oh, like stories after 24 hours each podcast. Man, I'd love that. I mean. Every episode should be ephemeral. Why not?

You know, I do think that if we did do it. You could see the Doughboy's podcast video recorded on like Pluto TV, which by the way, I like Pluto TV, not a hit on Pluto TV. I love Pluto. No one's saying anything negative about Pluto TV. We love Pluto TV. We love Pluto TV. Birthday boys just went on Pluto TV.

Are they owned by terrible people? Possibly. I don't know. It's no Bug TV. www.bug.tv. A little plug there. I'm saying, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know the corporate overlords of Pluto TV. I'm looking at that because I don't know either. It's Viacom. It's CBS Viacom now or whatever. Who cares? We like Pluto TV. It is fun. And also, hey, Showtime at the Apollo.

That's what I was. That's why I was thinking of it. I was watching it on there. I was watching old Johnny Carson's. It gives me the feeling of a, it's like when I was like 14 years old and just flipping around on TV, gives me that feeling again. It's great. Up too late.

You're watching the, you know, you're watching. In my, I feel like on my station, Showtime at the Apollo aired after SNL. Does that sound accurate with your guys experience? That happens in some markets. Yeah. That's like a locally syndicated show, but in a lot of places it would air after SNL. So that was like a real, like, I like, like, if I was watching Showtime at the Apollo, it was like watching the Tom Joyner talk show.

It was like, oh, I'm up really late. I'm up a lot later than I'm supposed to. And I kind of like it. Oh, that's, no, I like it too. That's good. That's like a after, who was after Conan? And then there was a, there's like something like a, there's all those markers of like someone who was after Conan or after the late, late show.

Yeah. It was great. Caneer for a time. Caneer had a show. Caneer had it. And then that's what Carson Daly took over. Oh, that's right. Yes.

Carson Daly. That's, all right. That's what it is. On the West coast, after SNL, we get Johnny Bananas, the guy from road rules or real world or whatever. Is that true? It is true. He does like a, he does like a little like show.

Yeah. That's what there is now. Yeah. Yeah. That's moved around over the last few years. First look maybe it's called. Yeah. Yeah.

The host is, the host has changed for a long time. I thought it was going to be Johnny Bananas. I thought it was going to be the character from entourage, the animated, uh, I was disappointed when it wasn't. It's an animated show. Wow. Johnny Bananas from, yeah, real world road rules. Still going.

Good for him. Anyway, it's great to be back guys after five years. What a treat. So you know what else? You know what else is a treat? Popeyes. Popeyes is a great. Popeyes introduced some, some new menu items since the last time I was there and the last

time I ate meat, uh, because it's been a, you know, it's, it's, it's been a, it's been a while. It's been a, you know, I had a whole year was not eating any sort of meat. Now I'm back to eating a little bit of, you know, poultry and fish here and there. And so one of the things that I wanted to have because not only has hearing the dope voice theme song from somewhere. What the hell? What happened?

That was not me. Oh, it was Emma. That was Emma. Wow. We had a rare Emma Gaff. Emma, you fucked up. I was trying to build Q list for Nashville and it just started playing all the keys. Oh, wow.

I'm so loud out of my monitor. I just scared the shit out of me. Wow. It was very loud. I can only imagine how it was for you. They had no offense fan. I thought you were pulling some bullshit. I didn't know if you were.

I thought it was 100% some fan bullshit. I was like, where's this guy? I, I, I've got better bullshit than that to pull. My bad. I'll meet myself now. Wow. Wow. First time ever.

Yeah. Wow. But no, update the dope boys wiki. We have our first ever Emma mistake. Emma fuck up. Emma, Emma's now fucked up more than me. I'm, I'm first of us with no fuck ups. Wow.

So the, so the things they introduced. First off, we're, we're not just in the golden age of fast food chicken sandwiches because of Popeyes. We are also in a fast food fish sandwich, a sort of silver age old color. They're not quite as, as omnipresent, but they are, there are a lot of one, a lot of chains, trying new versions of a fish sandwich. The, the, the BK big fish, I think is quite good. The Arby's fish sandwich, Mitch, you and I both had multiple versions of is probably

the best in the game right now. And it's really, really good. It's fantastic. And you know what else is really good? I added the spicy flounder fish sandwich from Popeyes, which I had for the first time. It's very similar to their, their chicken sandwich in terms of concept. It's got the pickle. It's got the, the sauce, the same sort of spicy sauce.

It's got that same sort of bun form factor, but a great piece of fish. I also had it. I thought this was super duper, super duper satisfying. A decent amount of heat. And I was a big fan of the sandwich. I also had it. Wow. This is not planned folks.

We just all have to do. I'mma put in a ding. Okay. I'm accidentally puts in a fart. Another, another, another mistake. All of the dings the past five years have all been farts. Just a really, it's a really tight butthole. That's why it sounds like a ding.

Yeah. Exactly. Um, we all, it's, look at that. Why is the hat trick? Wow. Popeyes pulled the hat trick with us. Wow. Now what Popeyes did you guys get your sandwiches from?

I went to the one, the one I go to normally is on, uh, La Brea. It's the, uh, it's, and it's a good Popeyes. It's a very solid Popeyes. They're always very crowded and I was hoping to use online ordering because the Popeyes app is not crap, but this is, this often happens with this place. Particularly when I want it is that, that, that mobile ordering will be disabled. They're just so impacted. They can't accommodate them.

So I had to go IRL and, and wait for a spell. That said, worth the wait. Very, very good meal. And it's a good Popeyes. Good service. Mitch. Which one did you go to? I was a Glendale boy.

I went to Colorado Boulevard. Yeah. I went to the Hollywood Boulevard Popeyes. Probably Los Angeles's worst Popeyes. A chaotic Popeyes. It's a chaotic Popeyes. It's very tiny. It's, uh, it's a really dirty Popeyes.

Just the restaurant itself is, is doesn't seem like they clean it a lot. I don't blame the people who work there. I think you clean it and it gets immediately messy. Cause Hollywood. You went to the one on Hollywood. Dirty place. Yes. The, the right near IO.

The old IO. Right near the shell of IO, which empty IO shell. A former improv theater on Hollywood Boulevard. There's no more laughter in the dick box. Yeah. They had, they had a, The dick box is now empty. The Andy Dick box.

Yes. Yes. I think Andy Dick is living in there though. Co-star from love. Yeah. I'm cool with that. It's, uh, it was, the sandwich was still good. I, I did mobile order it like her.

Uh, it's a, and it was ready when I picked it up. Cause that is a, that is not the busiest Popeyes actually. And, uh, yeah, it was pretty good. Um, mine was a little dry. I'll be honest. Um, but I enjoyed the sandwich in concept. Um, and the, the flavor was good. It just was a little dry.

I think maybe they didn't put enough sauce on it or not. Sure. I'd rather have the chicken, the chicken sandwich. I guess if I'm talking about the, the flounder sandwich, but, but if you're not eating chicken or if you just want to change a pace, I mean, it's a great option. Well, speaking of chicken sandwich, I think this is the exact same place.

I got that chicken sandwich. I think it was the same, uh, the same Popeyes, which, yeah. Nick, did you come, did you go to that Popeyes at one point with me? I don't know who cares. But I, but I've been to all, I've been to all of these Popeyes. I've been to, been to multiple area Popeyes. I, I, I can't remember if the Glendale Popeyes is the one where

I got the chicken sandwich guy. Cause I, I got one from the, the Hollywood Boulevard location and I got another one. They didn't have it at the La Brea one. So I went to the Hollywood Boulevard one when the chicken sandwich was first introduced and waited in line. And then they also went to one in the valley. It might have been the Glendale location.

That was the one where some YouTube pranksters, I ended up in the YouTube video. Oh, I remember that story. You're in the YouTube video. I'm in the YouTube video. They came in and they were dressed up as Chick-fil-A employees talking about how the, that they were just like trying to get people to not eat the Popeyes chicken sandwich.

That sounds like a funny prank. It was pretty funny. You know what's crazy is that even that feels so weird and like, that doesn't feel like it happens anymore. Like a, even it feels like even YouTubers have given up a bit on things like that. Like, sure. Well, it's all moved to TikTok and there's no time to set that

up. Yeah. You just punch somebody in the face or something and then that's all you got. That's it. Well, um, I, uh, well, I, I, I'm with Van. I thought it was good in theory.

Uh, and, uh, and, but I thought the sandwich was a little fishy tasting. Like, like, uh, I think that that Arby's fish sandwich is so good. It's fucking great. And, and just, uh, it just has a great taste going. And then the Popeyes one was a little bit fishy for me, just not as good.

Like, and also look, you got the chicken sandwich there that just knocks it out of the park and then, you know, the fish sandwich just isn't as good as that, but still good. Still a good offering. I got both. I got the spicy flounder fish sandwich and I also got a, the classic flounder fish sandwich. Wow.

Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Did you have a preference? Those super different. Um, no, I mean, they weren't super different. I mean, they were, they were, I maybe liked the spicy one more, but they were, I thought they were, I didn't eat the whole thing, but I thought it was good to try both of them.

Fair enough. We had a thing in New Orleans called a super Popeyes, which had a full fried seafood menu. Wow. Wow. Super Popeyes. And super was kind of written in the like Superman style font, a little more trademark infringement from Al Copeland.

That's great. I love it. Um, but yeah, that's, that's closed. I came back here with my, my Popeyes. This was my, uh, this was my Saturday. This was my Saturday night. Came back here with Popeyes. I, uh, turned on some Johnny Carson.

Yes. On Pluto TV. Sounds good. Sounds like a fun, fun time. Johnny Carson birthday boys. They got all the classic comedies on there. Uh-huh. Was, and I was chowing down on-

The Paul Reiser Carson series. They got them all. Man, remember what a big ordeal that was? It was such a big, it still is around, right? Well, whatever. We don't have to get into the, the lore of the show. It might be on Peacock. It maybe is on Peacock.

Yeah. I think you can watch the Reiser CISO original Johnny Carson behind the scenes show, their big budget prestige project. I think you can watch that on Peacock. Hmm. No hidden America though. Um, and so I got a couple other new items, two wigs. Wow.

Um, I got, I got a couple. So I was trying to figure out how many nuggets I should get. And then so I ordered two eight piece nuggets cause I want to just get sides with them. I want to get sides with them too. So I got two eight piece nuggets. Wow. I got a, I got an eight piece, I got one eight piece nuggets.

Okay. That's what I should have done. I should have just ordered a side separate. Yeah. And get sides of the card. Yeah. Um, and I asked for, I wanted cocktail sauce and tartar sauce. Look, they messed up a little bit.

When I, when I, when I got back to the house, my, I had, I had ordered dessert. Strawberry pie. Mm-hmm. Strawberry cream cheese pie. It wasn't in the bag. Now is that, you ordered a strawberry pie and a strawberry cream cheese pie or is that? No, sorry.

Strawberry cream cheese pie, just one. Got it. And it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't in the bag. That sucks. I hate when that happens. I always have issues with sauces at Popeyes, which I thought what you were going to say is that I never get the sauces that I ordered. That was, that was another issue.

The sauces were not, and I ordered like six different sauces, which was annoying. And I also ordered us. So for my drinks, I got a Coca-Cola and I also got a, uh, uh, which I haven't been drinking soda or, or, or sugar drinks. And I got a fucking Coca-Cola, whatever. I'm an idiot. And then I also got a frozen strawberry lemonade and, uh,

they brought it out and it was just a frozen lemonade, but I also didn't want to be like, I couldn't do that thing where I was like, Hey, you know what I mean? Like, uh, yeah. It's supposed to have strawberry in it. Yeah. I'm with you. With Doughboy stuff.

I just let it slide, but I did get homewags. And so I have, you know, I have 16 nuggets now. And I had, and I had asked for some, uh, some blackened ranch, uh, and, and some, uh, some sweet heat. Yes. And, uh, some cocktail sauce, some, some tartar sauce. And, uh, and also I asked for, uh, what was it? What was the name of a honey, like a honey mustard sauce?

They have like a, like a, uh, uh, some honey mustard sauce that people like. Wild honey mustard sauce. I'm looking on the website. Yeah. I had the thing where I, I also ordered multiple sauces and the only ones I got, like I got the right quantity of sauces, but I got all sweet heats. I got like four sweet heats, which is typical of my sauce experience of Popeyes. I got sweet heat that sweet, sweet heat.

I got two sweet heats and then two honey musters, which maybe weren't the honey. They, they maybe have multiple honey mustards at, at a, you know, I got two wild honey mustard. So it is the one I ordered. But the sauce, look, it was a sauce debacle. It was just a sauce debacle, which is fine, but it is annoying with like a, I've talked about it on here before, if you get Domino's and you get like the cheesy bread and then they don't give you a, and you have no marinara.

Like what are you going to do? You toss that shit in the trash. What the hell are you supposed to do? Yeah. No, it can be, um, it can be disappointing or annoying when you, you're expecting a certain thing and what you end up getting is just something, you give you something different and you were expecting something and you still got something, but you didn't get the thing you wanted.

I feel like this is layered criticism of the dough boys in some way right now. Hmm. What Van is saying. I layered criticism. Yeah. I feel like you're like, uh, I wanted to be on the show earlier. I feel like you're mad at us. No, no, no, no, no.

No need for layered criticism. You can just say the show sucks and you'd be right. Yeah. I would just be upfront about it. Yeah. Um, I'm just saying like, you know, yeah, sir, sometimes you tune, you tune into an episode of dough boys. You expect one thing and you get, you get something else.

That is the thing that happens. I thought you were being honest or just earnest was a, was throwing me off. I was, I was shocked. But you're right. When you, when you, when you get back in the end and you look in your bag and there's not the dipping sauce, it's a, it's, it's a, it's a true bummer. You got to check. I guess you just got to check.

You got, you got to check, but even there you got to be like, like, I can't get the Mardi Gras mustard. I asked for them. I like, I just hate fucking being that guy. I'll take with you, Mitch. I'm with you on term in terms of for the part of the dough boys experience I think is did I get what I ordered? And if I didn't, that's, that's a knock against the restaurant.

Like, like, you know, for better or worse, cause that just, that just happens. That's a reality. They need all these robots. They need a robot checking the sauces. Hey, I, I volunteer as tribute. I'll take that job. I'll be that sauce. I just see Chipotle is, is replacing some of their cooks with robots.

Wow. Grim. I had the idea years ago and I think I pitched this like 10 years ago. I was like, one of the, so every, every Vegas buffet has an omelet bar. Like that's like just like, like we got an omelet bar. That's one of the things you can get every, every Vegas breakfast buffet. One of them should, should have a robot omelet chef. That's a thing you could automate because all you need to do is like, you know,

figure out how to portion out the amount of ingredients that you have. This is insane. Someone rang my doorbell. I'm going to, I'm going to go look. I'll be right back. This is all right. I'll be back. I'm just stepping away anyway.

So I think first off, I think this is a process you could automate. And second off, I think it would be dazzling. I think people would go like, especially kids would be like, I want to go to this breakfast buffet to see the robot omelet chef. And obviously that's displacing a worker, but that's just part of our dystopia. All right. Someone just walked into Mitch's place wearing a full face mask. Sometimes you tune into a dough boys episode.

You expect to get Van Roba show. Yeah. But what you get is you get bug main, ladies and gentlemen. Wow. We have our own microphone and headphones and ready to jack in and join. We have special guest, friend of the podcast, supposedly impossible to book, but I got him. Wow.

Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Bug Main. Wearing a baby blue UCLA hoodie, which I, as a UCLA alum, I appreciate. So some, some jacking in is being done right now. Van fucker. Audio configuration. This can work. This can work. This can work.

Don't worry. Hold on. I can get someone to help. Yes. Let me send in some help. I'll get some more coffee. I'll be back. We got someone else at the door there.

We're not recording right now. Well, maybe we are. Maybe we are. Yeah. Who knows? Hey, what's going on? All right. I've gotten my assistant here to help if you guys need Emma.

He can, he can do better with, with plugging stuff in than these two guys. So if you need to tell him anything. Okay. Great. Can you hear us, bug? Hello. What is happening? It's only been 19 minutes since he came in.

I know it feels like days. Wow. Yeah. Do you have an SD card, Mitch? Yeah. See if Mitch has an SD card. That would be great. Does, does Mitch have an SD card?

Yeah. There's an SD card somewhere. I just got to find it. Oh boy. Yeah. He says somewhere. Yeah. What is somewhere, Mitch?

Is he looking for it now also? Or is he just? I think he's cleaning up the kitchen right now. Mitch, would you be able to get the SD card? Yeah. I'll try to find one. Okay. Thanks.

Oh boy. Yeah. James, can you accompany him and actually make sure he does that? Okay. I guess. Yes. Oh God. Now he's giving a house tour.

No. All right, guys. Do they have their headphones on or how's that going? No. Let's get them set. They can take off them on. You. Hello.

Can you hear us? Yeah. Folks, we mentioned earlier that Emma is the best in the business. Well, she has just covered about a 25 minute stop down and also talked through a bunch of tech because we have a new complication here. There's always a twist with ban. And this twist comes in the form of one bug main was arrived as a surprise IRL guest at Mitch's domicile.

It's a nice place you have here, Mitch. It'd be a shame if someone were to start slapping things. Oh boy. How about that? How about this? No, no, no, no. All right. Good.

What about this? Why are you knocking over? A true agent of chaos. This is great. It'd be a shame if someone slapped this. He threw a pillow. Push-ins have been thrown around. There's also nothing bug main has ever done.

He doesn't really. Slap. Now slapping Mitch. Slap. Slap. Slap. Striking. All right.

The Spoon Man. My name is not bug main anymore. It's Mr. Slap. Oh boy. Mr. Slap. Mr. Slap. Because I love to slap. Wow.

There's a lot of good. Slap. No, that was the thing. New part of his gimmick. Bug main, thank you for being here. Wearing a visor, covering your face as you're causing chaos at the Spoon Shack. Oh God, Jill. Jill.

Oh God, Jill's all the way. I just want to thank Will for not slapping me. Oh God. Slap. Slap. Slap. I've been from Doe Boys for 10 years. So.

Wow. What's really interesting is the slap. Let's talk about the slap. The slap is 9-11, but for the next simulation theory. So on 9-11, the planes went in the towers. It woke everyone up in this world. We're standing and sitting here and I'm slapping and slapping. That's this world.

Okay. That's when we woke up to the slap was the actual instance that the reality flipped to online. Now online is actual reality and what we're in right here. Slap. Slap. Slap. I noticed that.

Slap. Bug main didn't slap his little tequila bottle that he has brought in here. Slap. Slap. Interesting. Oh, now he's opening it. And what happened was. It's 12-46 on a Tuesday.

So what happened was. Great. We also have another guest coming in at one. Not only was it a Macbeth and then we watched a Macbeth happened by the way. Yes, that's true. We watched a live Macbeth happen right after. Scottish play. We're not supposed to say the name of it.

The tragedy of Macbeth at Apple TV original. We then saw a Macbeth play out in front of our eyes. A live Macbeth happened on stage. And it slapped everyone into the flip. Wow. Okay. And now what happens is online, which is our reality now online. That's our reality in this world is not this is a simulation.

All events are simulated here and online, which is reality. You get to choose what reality you're in because that is reality. Something Weinstein this way comes. Yes. Yes. Exactly. So this is my. That was good.

You don't like that. I like it. I was laughing. The reality used to be 80% this world and 20% online, you know, chat rooms. Now, if you want to block someone in your life, you block them online. If you want to meet someone, you meet them on Tinder. That is reality. This is just a bus station of which all simulations happen.

And then you real time pick reality you want to be in online. That's why. Oh, the slap's good. Trump won. Trump didn't win. All of that you pick online, which is now reality. What reality do you want to live in? Trump won.

Trump didn't. Okay. People are arguing that. Similarly to the old reality, there are islands where people don't know what happened or about other things. And sometimes it's a bad leader of a Facebook group keeping information out of the online island. Sometimes it's just an accident.

You know, this is there's little online islands of like just like islands where they don't have phones. There's little online islands of people not knowing what else is happening. People just keep those in. They keep. Everyone has their closed ecosystems. Exactly. Those are those little islands now.

You understand the slap sent us into the simulation in a simulation theory. Why? The slap flipped it. Why are you? I agree with you for the moment. Oh, so this is the first time I've seen bug this year, by the way. Just a heads up. Great.

I have not seen bug. Imagine even in our movies, they're like, imagine a world where there's a bunch of Spiderman. That's our world. We lived in a world where there's a bunch of Spiderman. Well, that's how now everyone is even why everything is multiverse. It's the only way to even comprehend the picking of realities that we're doing online that choose our reality. That's how it is.

This is just this big bus station of simulations that we then pick the slap finally flipped it to 51% of reality is online and 49% is in this terrible meat bus station of ours. Why did you? Here's a question for you. So hold on a second. Well, why? What are you going to ask? I was going to say, bug, you weren't here for this discussion earlier, but your talk

of the multiverse, we brought up a topic on this podcast, the Mitch comedic universe, where Mitch himself has kind of his own multiverse that is spawned. Exactly. And that's because online, some people know him as the tomorrow workout. Some people know him as this. Some people don't know one or the other. That's where online, they're choosing their own reality in this meat world of this that is now a bus station, which is not reality.

He's doing different things right now. Bug main, which is a character that only exists online is more famous than maybe you guys are as people or the person that plays bug main is as a person because he went online. When I did the hit song, and by the way, since I've been on dough boys, I've become more famous than all of you as bug main and I have hits out. And what happened was I was driving through the Navajo desert and Coco Peli, who's an ancient God chose me to be inhabited. He inhabited me and I made a song for him that became a million platinum selling huge

giant song. Platinum Spotify. He chose me to arc himself from this bus station fall used to be reality used to be our submission. He chose me to arc himself into the next reality. He knew that he was on T shirts. It was not it was getting uncool. He was on mom T shirts and ants and and airports. He's like, how am I going to be as cool as I used to be 2000 years ago?

Oh my God, there's this guy. He's a conduit. He's an exact conduit. I'm going to arc myself into him and then he will then put me into the new reality. I'm he's going to arc himself into the new reality. That's what he did. And now when people in this bus station world see him, now they take a picture of him for me for bug because we'll get all that's me and they upload him on to the arc.

Every time now they do that, he's being uploaded on to the arc. Even the ancient spirits know that it's now time to arc themselves into the next reality, which slap finally flipped it to 51% not to mention the Macbeth of it all, not to mention all the craziness that I hope I got the gore on God comes into me from from Zelda. You know what I'm talking about. The guy who rolls in a ball wise. You better. You better talk in the adjustment bureau is about to get me.

Oh boy. The guys and fedores are looking for bug. Why didn't you? Why didn't you come on for the dough boys Christmas special? I sent you an email. You didn't respond. Hmm. Well, that's because I'm a hood.

Don't listen to Amber hood. Don't listen to. Don't listen to Amber hood. You did it for your family. There's evil in this world. No, I was working on this brand new theory and I knew that the slap finally sent it over. That's why I'm called Mr.

Slap. Wow. Slap. Slap. No, stop. He stood up. Slap. Four of his possessions are being slapped.

That's fine. He was about to slap my TV, my sound bar and then my PlayStation five. So he. Wow. Things I don't want him to touch. Spensive consumer electronics. I just want to give a big thanks to Emma who's listening back right now adjusting the audio levels from a bug man screaming into the microphone.

So. Thank you. Thank you for that. Our own personal adjustment bureau. Then the guy that wrote the article saying that Will Smith should give his Oscar back was Jada's lover in the Matrix movies. That was just another little funny thing simulator likes to do. He likes to throw little inklings and things in there.

I did not know that. And the other thing that's interesting is that we'll find a lot of these people. You could say shooters. You could say will with the slap. You could say anything is sometimes maybe the algorithm sends them into our world. Maybe the online world sometimes goats them. Hey, why don't you do? Why don't you do a little slap?

Hold on a second. What do you do? Now they're there. You could say shooters. They're doing. They're doing Matrix. How Smith. No.

How Smith went. Yes. How Smith went from the Matrix into the real world in Matrix two. Now the same thing is happening where it goes all the way back again. Maybe you know. Yeah. Exactly. A slap a shooter or it could be Trump six nine bug whatever they go into it.

They come back out. They come out. They bathe the bathe in algorithm juice. They come back out into our world and they start doing things in order to please the now new reality, which is 51% online. So now they're sending out little Manchurian candidates into our world. The algorithm bite. Oh, you didn't get enough likes on this.

Oh, you get a lot of likes. Oh my God. Did you see everyone posted Jada talking about the X lover? Oh man, man. They're really cool. If you slap up there and slap every. Yes. Exactly.

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audio device. So you make things sound a little different. Mr. Slap, doesn't care. Mr. Slap, doesn't care. Slap. Slap. Slap, Nabois shut up. More Slaps are coming.

Oh, and PS Rich, I have Corona virus. I just whispered into Mitch's ear that he has Corona virus. Jesus Christ. Hoping this is a bit, but if possible, it's not. I just want to say, I don't know if my assistant James has received any Slaps, but I want to clarify that those are not approved. I was not told about those. You're signing off on it.

Yeah, please don't slap James. Please don't. But if he is injured, that is covered by your workman's policy. So don't worry about that, James. He's a full employee of mine now. He's no longer a contractor. So I can send him into slightly more dangerous situations like this, and he can rest assured he'll be covered.

Bug Bay, did you eat pup eyes for this episode? The other thing that happens, and remember when everyone was about to run into Roswell? That was the first instance of when it was a mass Manchurian candidates of everyone. And for a second, they thought it would work. Don't you see bug himself? Maybe I'm called bug because I went and I bathed myself in the ones and zeros of the algorithm, and then I came out as a little bug here to warn people, here to warn people. Hey, are you doing that because you're a little Manchurian candidate for online and you're

just being sent out into this world, which is now 49% of reality, to do something on behalf of the 51% online that you think might be interesting or you think that people will start deciding what reality is. See, in the past, in the past, they used to go, oh, okay, the winners write history. And then it would take 100 years to realize, oh, actually, they lied about that. Now it's happening instantaneous, instantaneous. Everything is exponential. Why me?

I agree with most of your stuff. You guys, the only way I could get my message out is on the fast food podcast. It's the only, and it would come from the most unlikeliest of places. It would come from the most unlikeliest of places. Bug, I got a cough going. My name is Mr. Slap. Mr. Slap, I have a cough going. I don't know.

Good, yes. It's from your coronavirus. I'm hoping that your mask works. Well, coronavirus, if this is 49% in online, then it's a computer virus. It's a computer virus. Do you understand? Now do you start to get it? There was a D frag.

I'm hoping that the bug main mask works. What? I'm hoping the bug main mask works as a regular mask or that tequila kills the COVID virus. One of the two. The COVID vaccine? The COVID vaccine. Yeah, we want to kill. Take out that vaccine, hopefully.

Wait, wait, wait. That's slap talk, Mitch. You start talking like that. That'll get you a slap. Ah, damn it. That'll get you a slap again. I can't stress enough that I don't approve of the slapping. Mitch also so much more powerful than bug main physically, just the poking physique

in comparison. You're scaring me. Bug, no slapping. Say no slapping. This is a real mouse scaring an elephant situation. He slapped my headphones off. Just slapped Mitch's headphones off. That's the kind of talk that gets you slapped.

You're going to get a 10-year ban from Doughboys. Is that what you want? Guys, I don't like iPods. I think he's hoping for it. I think that would only make him more powerful. Some have called me irreverent. There was residue on that mask, so if you have COVID, I am in trouble. Some have called me Mr. Slap.

That's true. Which is funny because I'm no longer Mr. Slice. I am. I'm just Spoon Man now, which is, you know what? Makes sense. I came here to impart my simulation two theory. The slap was 9-11 for the simulation within the simulation. Everything is now on the reality is 51% online, 49% out here.

And the algorithm is constantly setting mantrian candidates out here in this world in order to inform there. Wow. And also ancient spirits are using young bug mains and Mr. Slap says conduits to arc themselves onto the new reality. I believe it. I do believe it. I believe it.

Yeah, I'm on board. We're all on board. And all this podcast is going to be the only thing left of all of us. You guys are arcing yourselves. You guys are arcing yourselves into the new reality with these podcasts. You understand? Bug, I have a question for you. Yes.

Did you eat at Popeyes? No. Okay. Oh, he's done. I did give him a heads up. He's done. He's done. Oh, he looks like he's leaving.

He's left. That might be it. Bug. He's walking. He's cheers. Raising his bottle and then walking out of Mitch's. That was James closing the door behind him. James is there alone.

James, did you eat at Popeyes? Ask James if he ate Popeyes. Did you eat Popeyes, James? No, not recently. No. Then you like Popeyes? Talk about it. Okay.

I like Popeyes. Yeah. Yeah. How many forks would you give it? I'd say four forks. Yeah. Four forks. Four forks.

Four forks from James. I'm going to say this, James. You want to give him a microphone? He's got one. I'm just not as loud as Bug, I think. So I'll just. Yeah. Can you scream more?

James came in and I could have helped with the tech situation because I've done this a lot, but immediately I had to put the cats in my room. That's where I went off to and I could hear you guys the whole time. Yes. I went off to put the cats in my room because I was afraid there were people here. I want to take care of the cats immediately where my head went. And then second, I went to clean up the kitchen. So while you guys were doing the tech stuff, my place was quite a mess.

Yeah. And so I, like, look, today was the day I was going to clean it. I didn't expect a Bugman surprise. Look at that. A little mushroom left by Bugman is the top, the top of his healer bottle. A little mushroom. Look at that. A little mushroom left from Bugman.

Should he eat it? See what happens? Not about yes. I mean, also, I think it would be hard to eat, but look. One pill makes you smaller. One pill makes you large. Makes you chill or whatever. So let me just quickly say, I want to talk about, like I said,

I only got the sweet heat. I only got the wild honey mustard. I got myself some red beans and rice. I got those red beans and rice too, which I believe are made with sausage. And, you know, this is the thing. Like, I am, look, here's the thing. I'm not eating red meat. I'm not eating pork as a rule, but I have a little bit of leeway with

byproducts that are present. Because, you know, you'll, like, go to a taqueria and their beans will be made with lard and, you know, whatever. Like, I'm just, like, I'm personally giving myself a little leeway there or if, like, fish sauce is in something, you know, back when I wasn't eating fish. But I am conscious of that. So, yeah, I believe the red beans and rice, which are, to me, an elite,

an S tier fast food side. Oh, yeah. We're the very best fast food sides. Love them. On my Mount Sidesmore. Mount Sidesmore. That, I think, is made with sausage. Yeah, absolutely.

Well, I also got myself some Homestyle Mac and Cheese. I was just a regular size of that. My, I got the, I got the popcorn shrimp. I can't believe you're just trying to do the episode. I got a popcorn. What are we, what are we doing at this point? Let's just get our fork score and move on. I mean, this is kind of crazy.

This is something that you would do. I'm trying to do something you would do. I liked the visit from Bug. I hadn't seen my friend all year. He slapped you in the face at least 10 times. Like getting slapped? Is that what we're learning here? I liked seeing my friend Bug.

I got a regular size Homestyle Mac and Cheese. I got the popcorn shrimp, which was pretty good. That came with French fries, the, the Popeyes French fries, which are, are they Cajun fries? Yeah. Cajun fries. I also, the biscuit came, a biscuit came with that. The biscuit's always great.

I dipped that in my red beans and rice and I dipped it in my mashed potatoes and gravy. I got a large mashed potatoes and gravy. I got a feast. That's everything I got. I covered the red beans and rice, fries, everything. That's everything I got. The Coke was good.

The lemonade was pretty good. The fish sandwiches, a little fishy, but I still liked them. The popcorn shrimp good and wigs. There was one thing I didn't say that I got. Yeah. I got myself a spicy chicken sandwich. Wow. Um, which look, and I, that's the one that, and I got,

look, I got a frozen strawberry lemonade. The biscuit came as a regular frozen lemonade. That's what I got. Uh, I think with, with the mashed potatoes and I loved my spicy chicken sandwich. It's still great. They still do a great job. Great sandwiches.

It's a good sandwich. It's not coming back. I thought, no, no, he's done. That was it. I think he's done. No, I did get a text message from him just a moment ago that he, uh, wants you to plug, uh, bolt driver dot la. Uh, great.

Yeah. It's bolt driver dot la. That's to see the original film bolt driver. Uh, you can also find out more about a great job. At a bug main dot TV. Sorry about all. M A N E dot TV. James is apologizing.

There's no need to apologize. Just, uh, None of this is your fault. Would you? Uh, oh yeah. Of course. As a quick, uh, a quick thank you to you guys for supporting bug main.

Uh, I have a bug mains bug coins. I'm going to be giving one of those to each of you. Emma, you're going to get one as well. Uh, one for Nick and one for Mitch. They have a bug mains famous tweet as well as Watto on them. Uh, and bugs, uh, emblem and they're numbered. They're a limited edition of a hundred. Now this is not a cryptocurrency.

This is a, this is a physical currency. It is a physical coin. Yeah. These are physical physical coins. Does bug have COVID? Uh, not the last I've heard, but I don't think he's ever been tested. You, you test.

Oh, I thought you test for van labs. Uh, I found, I opened up bags, little bug, uh, a bug's bag of gifts here. There's an empty Don Julio bottle, a little empty mini Don Julio bottle. And then two lime Perrier's unopened. Hey, they just weren't open. There you go.

There you go. Or two. I mean, it is a score. That's great. Um, and then there was also about a, where is the other one? His other, was it on the couch? He took the other bottle. He took the other bottle.

He took the other bottle. Checks out. The, the red beans and rice are, are, are great. And they, they were excellent. They're a great side. They're a great counterpart to all the fried stuff that you're getting. I, I, I really, really like them. They're, they're a must even though I've had them a bunch,

even though they're, they're likely made with, with, uh, pork byproducts. Like I can't resist really, really love that. Uh, really, really love those, uh, those red beans and rice. I, I got the nuggets and here's what I'll say. I think the nuggets are a little too bready. I'd rather just have their bone and chicken. I, I just, I just felt like they were pretty good,

but they're very hyped up. It may be, it may be a, this also could be like a locational variant sort of thing where just, you know, but the ones I got were a lot of breading. There was just a little bit too much coating to, to, to chicken meat. And I think the ratio is more consistent with their bone in bird. I also just prefer bone in fried chicken to nuggets, just in general or attendees.

I just rather have it. So that's just a personal preference thing. Uh, so I don't know if I'd get the nuggets again, but I would get the, you know, I'd, I'd of course get their fried chicken. I of course get that fish sandwich again. And I also got the wild berry Benye's, which are a seasonal dessert special.

These were delightful. A lot of confectioner's sugar on these. Very, very dusty. I was, I looked positive. That's the way to do them. No doubt. Uh, but they were, they were fucking. You looked coked out.

They were really good. I looked coked out because I was covered with this white powder. Powdered sugar. Yeah. I've done the chocolate Benye's before and they're very good. They're good. Yeah. These, these were really tasty.

I prefer these to the chocolate ones. Van, any other food you want to discuss before we get to our fork score? Um, you know, uh, I, I, I just, I love that sandwich. The chocolate Benye I've had as well, which is really good. I will say that like a filling in a Benye is not the traditional way to do it. Um, however, uh, I think I've been to that little coffee shop. Cafe D'Amond. Mm hmm.

Sure. I've had the original Benye's chef comes out with his dick hanging out of his boxer shorts. Yeah. Before we get to the fork score, I only have off topic, uh, nonsense to cover really. Um, so we haven't had enough of that yet. This episode.

Uh, just real quick, you know, I've had some dough boys fans reach out to me and ask whatever happened to the dough boys iOS sticker app, uh, which I released back in 2017. Um, and the answer to that is, uh, my license to use the dough boys, uh, logo and images for the sticker app expired in 2019. Um, and so I would love to re-release that so that new people can download that. Um, but unfortunately this was a thing we did contractually. You got a license for it?

Yes. I got a license from Mitch. I think we can work out an agreement. Um, which is why you guys received 70% of the, the, he worked out an agreement. You guys received 70% of the proceeds. Okay. Read this by me next time. So, uh, I've just, uh, I've just sent, uh, to Mitch, uh, a, uh, a new docusign, um,

to, to sign off on the dough boys sticker app, uh, re-release. Mm hmm. Um, a copy has been CC'd to Nick this time. Uh, CC, CC it to our lawyer as well. And so if you, uh, you can welcome to do that, but the, the, the ball is officially in your court with this Mitch. You just, it, so if anyone wants the dough boys sticker app to return or to perhaps become an entire dough boys app, uh, they just need to get Mitch to click yes on this

docusign. Again, they received 70% of the, uh, net profits from it. It's a really good deal for the dough boys. Um, and it is not, uh, it's not in my court. So just bother Mitch if you want that to come back. Wow. All right. Wow.

I liked the idea of it. I was going to say about the nuggets. The nuggets were hyped, but I thought they were good. And, uh, They're good. They're just, they're just, yeah, they're, they were a little too bright. Are they fried raw? Are they, like, can you get a raw nugget?

Cause I was, like, I was like, these are slightly undercooked. I was afraid I, I don't think so. I don't think so. Fast food nuggets are almost always shipped, like cooked and frozen. All right. All right. They were good.

They were good. I liked them. They were good. This is good. The animals are going to have you on the first time. So if you sure should have this whole thing, maybe it wouldn't have happened. Well, surely you'll have me back on again soon after this. Yes.

This is great. We'll book your return visit, uh, before we get you off the call. Let's go ahead and fit and get to our fork score. So Van, you've done the podcast. You know how this goes. Uh, give any, any remaining thoughts on Popeyes, any score from zero to five forks. We'll start with you. Uh, I'm giving it five forks.

Um, it's, uh, it's a childhood favorite. Um, it's, uh, a hometown restaurant. Um, the beans and rice can't be beat. Uh, the biscuits haven't been mentioned on the episode, but I have to say that they are delicious. Though I think have about the calories and fat of an entire big Mac on their own. Yes.

They forgot my biscuit, by the way. Oh, yeah. You hate, you hate that. Um, but, uh, yeah, I love the biscuits, love the chicken, love the beans and rice, uh, five forks. Yeah. I'll, I'll, I'll go next a spoon, man, just because I'm, I'm in, uh, I'm on the same page. I'm in the hand holding club with our guests, five forks for Popeyes and elite fast food chain. Great fried chicken.

They, they deliver in what they're trying to do. This is, this is, this is the spot to go for far, for fried chicken in the fast food sector. Uh, Mitch, what do you think? Well, why? I had some different things there. I got some stuff slapped around. I cleaned my house while James was, while James was helping you guys figure out the social situation.

So I did clean my house a little bit, which was nice. I think you also gave Bug Main a tour of your place, which was part of the reason our stop down took longer than it needed to. That's actually not true. Bug Main only saw the, I put my cats in my room. It's probably what you're thinking. Okay. All right.

That's a, oh my God. He's back. Oh my God. He's back. Bug Main has returned. I have a four fork review. Oh shit. He has a four fork review.

I forgot my math. Here's something. Beware of false prophets. Wow. Okay. See. Sage words. Guys, nowadays, as we lose God, we don't go to church anymore.

Some people in Cupertino and Northern California, they're starting to spread their own little new AG ideas. You'll find them in movies like cocoa and soul where the children don't have a place to pray or an afterlife to believe in anymore. People like Pixar and everything is everywhere. These are the, you got to watch out. These are new AG moralities. They're starting to spread new religions with cocoa and soul.

They're telling your kids, they're taking it upon themselves. I give it zero forks. Oh God. Damn it. All right. Not part of canon. That's, I believe, zero forks for the new religions being started by cocoa. Not for Popeyes.

And soul. Not for Popeyes. Just to the Wikipedia editors or the wiki editors for Doughboy, do make sure to note zero forks for the new religion started by cocoa and soul. Shut up. Shut up. A note who maintains our wiki. He's got to work it out for him on this episode.

Bug is flittering away. He's flying away. And with it goes a perfect score if we're going to count his score. Was he waiting in the wings for his moment to come in and give his fork score? Did Van or James give him an update? What happened here? James, the very sweet James when we're complimenting over and over again. Sitting here texting bug James.

What the fuck? Oh, that's what's happening. Okay. He has to come back. I saw that. He showed me the text to be fair. Okay. I, Nick, Popeyes is a delight.

Some of the new items didn't hit as much as some of the other items, but still a five forker for me. Why? Wow. Finally in its place and it's rightful home, the platinum plate club, the hallowed halls, Popeyes, Louisiana kitchen. And you know what? We're locking the gates.

We're put, we're putting on the Doughboys lock. That's bullshit. You can't, it's not coming out of the platinum plate club. That's insane. It's in tune inside. Emma, can you play the Mark Marin lock the gates drop? We've locked the Doughboys gates. And then a ding.

We've locked the eights. The eights of the locked. Wow. Lock the eights. Lock the eights. Lock the eights. Lock the eights. It's not coming out.

All right. Popeyes is in the platinum plate club and it's there to stay, entombed for all time. Congratulations to Popeyes. Congratulations to Al Copeland, RIP. We'll take a break. We'll be back with more Doughboys. Hey, you. Be craving fresh, delicious, easy meals.

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Chaos episode, true chaos. But Mitch, you know what? Here's the thing. This was a long and winding road, but there is a yes, and I say the Beatles with purpose, because another great musical act is involved with a long promised segment. That's right. That's right. We've been talking about it all year. You keep delaying it. You keep kicking the can down the road. Well, the can's not going any further down the road. We are here. We are at the end of the road. We are with a can. Mitch, it's time for the return of my Snacrifice. That's right, Wags. My Snacrifice is here. You are really trying to get me to do it. And so let's just say I lengthened the song a little bit. Here we go.

It's the beginning with the guitar. It's nice. I'm watching the music video as I do this, by the way. Yeah, we're all seeing it. You shared your screen. I don't remember this aspect. On second thought, let's play a game, a waste of time, something truly lame. For the podcast, G-dolls or Cheez-Its, choose one. Let's eliminate a snack for fun. Then we can eat it for months. This adds years to my life. My Snacrifice. Wags, we're going to keep rolling here.

Wow, there's more song. That's right. As we see the band playing in wastey water. Wow. We've had our share of chips and dips. Frank, Dr. Peppers and some Mr. Pips. Two funny sodas. But now we have to choose between a Skittles Lentil or a Jelly Bean. This shit ain't easy.

Coke or Pepsi. Choose one. We'll eliminate drinks for fun. Then we can chug them for months. I bet Wags hopes I don't choose cum. His favorite drink. Good God. Favorite drink? I just want to eat some nerds again. I just want to drink some sprites again.

I bet Wags hopes I don't choose cum. His favorite drink. Fritos or Doritos. Choose one. Let's eliminate snacks for fun. Then we can eat them for months. This adds years to our lives. Catch up or muster. Choose one. Then you can squeeze it in your bun. That's how the game works. It's bad.

Now the listeners all feel sad. This podcast sucks. This podcast sucks. I just want to move back home again. I just want to move back to Quincy again. Our sacrifice. We lost Wiger. I think he quit intentionally is my guess. He's gone? Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me?

He was right at the end, so I think he saw most of it. I got to do it again. Now did I go too long? Is he gone for good? I don't know. I haven't heard from him. He dropped like a minute ago. Resetting my router. My internet died. Oh my God. I can't believe this. I can't believe this.

I did this. I wrote the whole damn song out. I know. I wrote the whole damn song out. It was awesome. You did a great job. Thank you, Emma. I enjoyed it. Well, that's been Doe Boys, ladies and gentlemen. You can't just leave. You're in this. You're stuck. Okay, no, I'm fine. I'm happy to stay.

James is stuck. Emma's stuck. I'm stuck. I'm happy to stay. For years. This is my upside down. I can't believe this. Why is this LOL'd? Do you think he actually LOL'd? If my snackrifice is fucked up because of Van Shenanigans, I'll be so mad. It sounded good enough on the stream yard. I can't believe this. Where the fuck is this guy?

He just keeps LOLing. Can you guys hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. Okay, good. I'm back. Sorry. For everyone listening, my internet died while Mitch was singing a song, so I missed the back end of it. How much did you miss? I think the final minute 30 or so.

What the fuck? I got the part where you said that I drank cum like a beverage. I think I get it. You think you get it? There was some suspicion you had just quit. You missed the part where Mitch said that he wants to move back home with his mummy multiple times. Oh, that's funny.

No, he said mummy like a hundred times. That's very funny. The last minute was just mummy. Well, why is the thing you forced me to do? You weren't here for it. You didn't hear my hard work. I couldn't help. It was the internet issue. Oh, fuck off. But you know what? To Bug Main's point, online is the real world.

I missed a big portion of my life because my internet disconnected. You gotta listen to this shit when it's done. You gotta listen to it. I will. I'll listen to the record. I heard the first part of it. I appreciate the effort. That's not what it's about. It was fun lyrics. Anyways, I like the lyrics too.

They were funny. Even the implication that I have like a big gulp filled with human ejaculate. That was just one small part of the song that you're getting hung up on. That was my takeaway because it was focusing on me. You missed another 10 minutes of it. And it was good. I talk about the podcast being bad. Look, this time, my sacrifice, it's going to be a bit tougher.

Not just a bit. It's going to be much tougher. Wow. Here's what we have to sacrifice first in the category of chicken. You must sacrifice from the following. Either McNuggets. The spicy chicken sandwich. Fuck. Or the Popeyes chicken sandwich.

What do you sacrifice? That's really tough. Six months. Six months you can't eat it. Let's just say for it. You want to just say for the remainder of the year? Tell 2023? Sure.

Okay, till 2023. That sucks. All right, then we'll say six months. All right, that takes us to October. My birthday. I mean, I don't know. I think you could make it through the end of the year. Yes, tell Mitch's birthday.

Mitch's birthday will be the deadline for when we can start eating these things again. So six months until Mitch hits the big 4-0. What am I going to admit from my diet? If not, there'll be a penalty. There's a little penalty. We don't know what it is, but we'll figure it out. Okay. Ah, fuck, that's tough.

I think I'm going to, you know what? Even though we're talking about it, even though I love it, I think I'm going to say the Popeyes chicken sandwich. Why? Because I think I can make do with Popeyes chicken. If I have a Popeyes craving and that Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich is so specific and nuggets, I'd like nuggets. Kind of goes back on your point about

if the Popeyes chicken sandwich is in it, I wouldn't at all. That's the first is sacrifice. Anyways, why? I'll sacrifice the Wendy's spicy chicken sandwich. That's bullshit. You can't just change your answer. No, I've changed it.

I've changed it to Wendy's. My answer is the Popeyes chicken sandwich, as hard as that is. Wow. Sacrificing that for six months. Now, does that mean you just only will order one when you go? Yes. Okay. So not a huge sacrifice.

Which of these trio would you excise? So it's the Wendy's, the Popeyes, and what was the third? Sorry. The third is making nuggets. You're checked out? You're the one who's checked out? Well, you know, I got a lot going on here. I'm going to sacrifice the Wendy's.

Wow. Wendy's also sacrificed. I think if you'd thrown in, I think if you'd say if it had been like a McDonald's McChicken, I think that the McChicken would have been sacrificed, but because they're nuggets, it's not that specific. Well, why do you think I made it nuggets?

It's hard. Here we go. Likes. Next category, potato. Potato. You have to sacrifice baked potatoes, mashed potatoes, or French fries.

What do you sacrifice? This is a tough one. You know, there is a completely unfounded accusation that I don't like fries. Okay, sure. And I'm keeping baked potato. Doth protests. Okay.

Mashed potatoes. You're getting rid of mashed. I don't need those mashed. You're really going to October. If it was going through Thanksgiving, I think mashed would be harder to give up. That's true. Well, this one goes through the year.

Okay. I'm sticking with mashed. I'm going to get rid of baked potato. I don't have any options, too. I know. I know. What can I do? I'm going to sacrifice the fries.

My wife likes to make a baked potato. I can't do that to her. It is a great home meal, the baked potato. You won't eat fries for the rest of the year. You know, I've been avoiding fries in general just because of the carbs. I've been kind of a health kick lately. As Weig's knows, I'm on that peloton all the time.

You dropped a bunch of weight. You're a slim gym right now. I put on the COVID 20 and then dropped it. Wow. That's how long this has been going on. But yeah, yeah. So I've been avoiding fries in general, so I'm going to just make that a full-on sacrifice.

Wow. I love it. Weig's two more categories. Healthy protein is this category. We're sacrificing something healthy. Yes. Do we need to be doing this? Yogurt, almonds, or eggs.

What are you going to snack on? I'm not participating in this. This is absurd. I'm not participating in this. It's stuff I eat. It's fine. But now we're getting to some stuff that you like and you can't do it. Now, would almonds include almond milk

or just raw almonds? Almond milk and almond butter? No, just almonds. Raw almonds, raw almonds. That's it. Oh, just raw almonds? Okay, fuck. Yes.

Well, what are we doing here? Well, then that's easy as shit. No, it's just all almonds, Emma. It's all almonds. So all almonds, but not almond byproducts. Yes, and except also the almond brothers. You can't listen to them either. Okay, can't listen to the almond brothers.

That does make it a little tougher. But I think I'm going to... Fuck, I bought a big bag of almonds from Costco though. You know what, I'm going to say almonds and I'm probably just going to break this one. But I'll say almonds. Hey, wags, you don't have to do it, you idiot. Anyways, I'm going to go with almonds.

I think I'm going to do almonds myself. I think I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to sacrifice almonds. Yeah, we can not have eggs, not have yogurt. That's fine. That's fucking tough. That's so limiting unless you're dairy free. I got some, I have some almonds. I got some blue diamond almonds in the,

in the cabinet too. So that's a bummer. Van, what would you sacrifice? I got some black diamond almonds, I have a maybe a yogurt a day. So I got to keep the yogurt. Almonds, as long as I can keep the almond milk going, I'm going to, I'm going to go with almonds

because I like a hard boiled egg and I'm just not ready to give those up. Fair. Alright, last one. Last one, dips. The category is dips. Dips. Salsa, guac, or hummus.

What are you sacrificing? Sacrificing. This is really challenging one. It's good. I did a good job. I did a fantastic job for the segment and you fucking left during it. I didn't mean to leave.

I had an internet issue. It's my fault. Mad. Stayed up getting fucking travel for this stupid fucking show. Was up till two in the morning doing this stupid bullshit. It didn't take, it wouldn't have taken, shouldn't have taken you that long.

Here we go. I think you just spent too much time. I think you just probably had analysis paralysis and should have just made some decisions. It wasn't sacrifice, it was, here we go. Choose one of the three dips. This is extremely challenging. So I have to take into account that Natalie

will prepare some hummus. So as Van was talking about with, regarding his lovely wife and baked potatoes, that's just off the table. I got to have that as an option. And salsa, man, salsa's just so versatile and there's so many different kinds of salsa. I'm going to keep salsa.

I guess I got to get rid of guac as long as I can just have some avocados. I'll have avocados on occasion. Wags? Hey, guac and roll. I'm with you. Guac's got to go. It's out.

You also can't listen to rock and roll music. That's part of the guac. Guac is out. That's my sacrifice. I like hummus too much and I like salsa. Come on, you can't get rid of salsa. I think I prefer guac to hummus overall. But hummus is just like, it's how they're both nutritious.

I think hummus is a little more nutritious. I don't have this issue that you and Van have of a spouse and them doing nice things for me. So it's easy for me. Sure. If I didn't get rid of like small- Six months is a long time, things could change for you. That's true, Van. That's true.

Myself, I'm going to go with the guac. Wow. I feel like with, you know, salsa and guac, I feel pressure to just pick one or the other since often they're both available at the same spot. Great point. Now, if this was tuna fish, Wally and Irma, you know, with Wally and Irma

would be a little tougher to choose. That could have been one of the healthy proteins. It could have been one of the healthy proteins. Look, the whole thing is done anyways. We're done. Wow. I'm just going to sing the song one more time. Here we go.

Great. I'm not singing the song again. We're done, Wags. Wow. You know, it's just like a restaurant value feedback. Let's open up the feedback. And today we have an email from Sydney. Sydney writes, everybody always asks the question, which historical or famous figures would you invite to dinner?

My question for you guys is what would you want to eat at the dinner? Would you be cooking or going out to a restaurant? What cuisine would you choose? But I haven't stopped listening since. Thanks for the email, Sydney. Thanks for getting someone hooked on the pod, Riley. So here's the thing.

The question is, what are we eating? I guess what type of food? Maybe some specific dishes. Are we going out someplace? But this is like our John Favreau dinner for five. This is like who we're having some celebs, some historical figures to hobnob with. Farley, we're out with Chris Farley.

And Abraham Lincoln or whatever. Yeah, if that's if they're in your top five. Sure. I got to go. I think you got to do a classic big old steak. I think you got to gather around and do a big old fucking big juicy steak wags. I guess you're not inviting Gandhi.

No, he's not invited. Fucking nerd at the road. A big a classy big fucking. Hmm. What's one of the oldest state? I'm trying to think of like an old, old steak house like in New York, like 1912. One of the best old steak houses in the world.

That's where I want to go. There's the one on there's the one in Williamsburg from before Williamsburg was like a cool spot. Yeah. What the fuck is that place called? But apparently that place is kind of declined a little bit. I think it might be COVID related. But there's this cash only steak house that everyone loves there.

That's I think the kind of place you're thinking of. Kyle Mooney took me to Keen steak house in New York City once. And I liked it a lot. Yeah. I think I think that's what I got to do. I think that used to be like our like on Sundays. We'd sometimes have steak wags. It would be like Sunday would be like steak dinner.

And to me that's always kind of like, I don't know, it means something in my mind. Peter Luger is the steak house. Here's what I'm going to say, Mitch. Shout out another one of your favorite foods. Yeah. It's like a sort of casual sort of event. I go to a pizza parlor.

People can shift seats. They can move around if you want to have a one-on-one conversation. Wow. Get a bunch of pie. Everyone loves pizzas. Everyone likes pictures of soda. Everyone likes pictures of brood dogs. Have myself a little pizza party.

That would be a blast. As I'm talking with Cy Loon, the inventor of paper. I want to pick his brain. Is Gandhi there? Gandhi. I'm going to walk out when I see pepperoni. Toppings, yeah. You have a veggie pie.

It's fine. All right. Van, what do you think? You're having your historical dinner. You're having some of your favorite figures. I'm taking them to the Platinum Plate Club winning five fork restaurant Popeyes. I love it.

Wow. What fun that would be. We got with for you, Van. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hinckley's there, of course. Hinckley's the musical guest. Hey, you got some good teams. Sean Hinckley and your host, Ted Bundy.

Yeah, I don't know. It's always an interesting exercise. I always just think this thing would be so fucking awkward. I don't like having dinner with people I don't know. There's so much small talk involved. And what they don't like each other. Yeah. Hey, McFay is hogging all the nuggets.

This is at the end. I don't know where this is coming from. I don't know where this is coming from. McFay's last meal, four pints of mint chocolate chip ice cream. That's right. Yeah. Bugsbane is also at yours, right, Van? I would hope so.

Bugs gotta be there. He's at mine too. He's at all of ours. We did buy Snacrifice. This has been a marathon of an episode. It actually hasn't been much longer than a normal episode. It just seems like it because we had so many tech snafus. Anyway, if you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants,

you can email us at dobuyspodcast.com or leave us a voicemail at 830. That's 830-463-644. And to get the Doughboys double or weekly bonus episode, join the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com. Our guest, Van Robichow. Thank you so much for being here. Van, anything you'd like to plug?

If you want to learn more about me, you can go to bugmain.tv and also a sign up for a free trial of Bug TV, Bug Main streaming service with promo code Doughboys. Just go to www.bugtv. Wow. And also a shout out to James. Shout out to Bug Main.

Thank you, James. And thank you. And thank you, James for, for walking us. So is there anything you want to plug, James? No, just a, I guess, boltdriver.ly. All right, great. Check that out.

Perfect. Thanks, James. Thanks, James. Thanks, Bug. Thanks, Emma, of course. I was going to say rest in peace to go for Godfrey. Sad news that we just heard. So I just want to give a shout out.

Oh man, RIP. Rest in peace. And hey, that'll do it for this episode of Doughboys until next time for the Spoonman, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigar. The Doughboys are coming to Phoenix and Portland next week. See us live in Phoenix Thursday, April 28th with guest John Gabriel.

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