Doughboys - Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen with Lesley Arfin

Episode Date: May 26, 2016

Mitch and Wiger welcome writer/producer Lesley Arfin (HBO's Girls, Netflix's Love), who helps analyze cajun fried chicken chain Popeyes and tells us the virtues of eating cookies for breakfast. Mitch and Lesley compete in another edition of the Wiger Challenge.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

At age 80, William Friedkin is one of America's greatest living directors. In the early 1970s, his career hit its apex with the one-two punch of the French connection and the Exorcist. Though horror classic The Exorcist was the bigger hit and lingered longer in the collective consciousness, crime thriller The French Connection won greater critical acclaim netting Oscars for Friedkin and star Jean Hackman. In 1972, a high school dropout named Al Copeland opened a fried chicken restaurant in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, naming his joint after the hard-boiled New York detective character portrayed

by Hackman in the film. If it seemed like an odd inspiration, it was fitting for Copeland, an eccentric New Orleans original who talked as big as he lived. Over the years, brawling in barfights with political officials, decorating his mansion with a Christmas lights display so ornate it would become a local landmark, bribing the judge in his divorce proceedings, and publicly feuding with fellow Louisiana, Anne Rice. But he also built his fast-service restaurant business into a sensation, winning the loyalty of locals with his spicy chicken seasoning and authentic biscuits and sides and adding

500 locations in its first decade of operation. Copeland died in 2008, but his Cajun fried chicken legacy continues to thrive. Now with 2,000 restaurants across America and far-flung locales like Kuwait and Vietnam, this bayou original has ascended to the number two position worldwide in the competitive chicken sector, behind Yum Brand Goliath KFC. This week on Doughboys, Popeye's Louisiana Kitchen. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weigher alongside my co-host, Wreck-It Ralph on a Bender, Mike Mitchell, the Spoon

Man. How you doing, Spoon Man? Oh my God. Is that something that someone tweeted at you? No, that's another prefab insult from the Whigs, but if you've got an insult out there, go ahead and send them in to roastspoonman at gmail.com. And if I like them, I might use them at the top of podcasts on the air. Again, I get to say I don't like that you're asking people to make fun of me.

We'll see what the response is. You are beloved. You have a lot of loyal fans, so we'll see. There may be a backlash to this. Spooky Startle is bringing up the exorcist. Just mentioning the exorcist scares me. You're scared of ghosties, so you twitched a little. I'm afraid of ghosties, but more so, I'm afraid of the devil itself.

Did you say you're more afraid of the devil than ghosts? Of course. What do you mean? I'm more afraid that the devil has control of ghosts. You can shoot ghosts at you. One of the devil's powers is he can shoot ghosts at you? If he wants to, he can do anything. He can control of all the ghoulies.

And I mean ghoulies specifically. You mean ghoulies from the 80s horror franchise. They crawl out of the toilet and bite you in the butt. I also just want to say, Spoon Nation. Here we go. We got to drop. Tiger. It's a long one.

I would like to buy a hamburger. Okay. I would like to buy a hamburger. Girls, your pizza's here. Okay. Me want food. Give me a hell yeah. Pizza!

Pizza! Pizza! Pizza! Pizza! Pizza! The shrimp and the spoon. That's impossible. Spoon!

Spoon man! Hey yo! Great success. It ain't no joke. I'd like to buy the world a token. Teach the world to sing it. Perfect harmony. Teach the world to snuff the fires

and the liars. Hey I know it's just a song but it's fast for the recipe. Welcome to Good Burger, home of the Good Burger. Can I take your order? I was working in the lab late one night. My eyes beheld an eerie sight

for my monster from his slab began to rise and suddenly to my surprise his trousers dropped right to the floor. What? That escalated quickly. Jimi wanna stay.

Jimi wanna pizza. I'm about to know that. Jimi wants a race. Maybe we should stop. We do not quit. Again. I would like to buy a hamburger. I would like to buy a hamburger.

I would like to buy a hamburger. I would like to buy a hamburger. I would like to buy a hamburger. I would like to buy a hamburger. The burger. Our guest is leaving. One minute left. Oh my god.

And now in front of all the Rocks fans you wanna serve the Rock a great big piece of that poontang pie? Hi. So good. My own bird. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Rocks fans got mad. My own bird. Yes. Seems a little short. That's it guys.

Wow. I can't even look our guests in the eyes. You've wasted a profound amount of everyone's time. I actually like that. It was a minute too long. It was from... That final minute is what got you. That was sent in from Dan Kurtstetter

and his brother Matt. Oh okay. Thanks. There's a lot to take in there. I would say probably my favorite little snippet was about three minutes in. We got the entirety of the Seinfeld theme song.

Yeah. I'd say my least favorite part was just audience wrestling fan cheering for 20 seconds. But I liked it. I thought it was really good. Good job Dan. I know Danny's a great guy. I'm sure he is. I would just say

Mitch just put yourself in the shoes of someone who's maybe read an AV club right up of the podcast and is like, oh this sounds interesting. Something about chain restaurant. I'll check that out. And saw maybe some positive feedback on social media about the show.

Puts on the latest episode, which is this episode. And that's what they're greeted with. It's just a five minute audio collage that makes no sense. I thought it was good. I'm just saying I feel like this might be a little bit off putting the new listeners, but that's a battle I've waged.

You were in there, weren't you happy to hear yourself? Yeah, they put in a little bit of my cover of the monster mash. The monster fuck. Yeah, the monster fuck. Let's just move on. Let's introduce our guest. Let's introduce our guest.

We're very, very happy to have her. She's been very, very patient to sit through all that bullshit. Hi girls and co-creator of Netflix's Love. Leslie Arfin is here. Hi Leslie. Hi. Thank you so much for making time for us. Thanks for having me do this. I love being invited to anything.

I love being included. Am I doing this right? You're doing it perfectly. You're coming through loud and clear. Leslie's the best. She's one of the coolest girls I've ever met. Very cool. It's true. It's the truth. I feel that way about you too.

You're one of the coolest girls I've ever met. Yeah. You are. You're one of the coolest and nicest. I love Leslie. She's great. Yeah. I'm very happy to have you here. I don't know how my judgment on cool is. I don't know if that's a...

That's a good point. Maybe it's not a good thing for me to say you're the coolest, but I think you are the coolest. What else do you think is cool, bitch? Let's see. You think Tom Brady, Mario Kart, separate washrooms. Oh my fucking god.

I do not think separate washrooms are cool. I do. Oh my god. Wait, wait. What do you mean separate washrooms? He was saying like segregation. Oh, I don't care for that. I thought you meant like... It's so dumb.

You're having your own bathroom. Paul has his bathroom. I give him my bathroom. Actually, my wife Natalie in our new place, we have two bathrooms. It's the first time as an adult, I've had two bathrooms in an apartment. It's very nice. It's like a luxury.

It's such a luxury. Also like two different sinks. His and hers sink. That's nice, yeah. That's what I was... You know what I like? You have your own separate, sticky, gross bathroom that you go into.

There's a... There's a bedroom by the bathroom, there's another bedroom as an office. They're both their options. The office, huh? Can I admit two things? One is that I

asked to be on this podcast many times. You and... So a lot of people have asked to be on it. Yeah, there's no shame in that. However, I've never... And I'm not... This has nothing to do with you guys.

It's podcasts in general. I have never listened to this podcast. I think that's... Is that normal? I think it's very normal. I feel like I commend you for not ever listening to it. I think it's a waste of time.

Even today, I was like, maybe I should listen to an episode before I do it. And then I was like, no. You know what, I'm going rogue. I like that. I've been listening to podcasts over the years and I always find myself, if I'm not familiar with it,

I will listen to an episode to just sort of be like, okay, this is how it goes. This is how it flows. It's an amic with the hosting, the gas and everything. But yeah, I think that's a really bold... It's a bold approach to go in cold. I'm fine with it. We're not offended.

We're going to have to be. No. Please don't be offended. I don't listen to podcasts. If maybe sometimes I listen to radio it's just a preference for music over the spoken word? Yeah, I like singing so much. I'm with you too.

If I'm in my car, I usually will be listening to music instead of podcasts. I will listen to a podcast occasionally, but not too often. Usually my drives aren't that long to even listen to a podcast, I feel like. And if I am having a long car trip, I want to listen to music.

And you know when I will listen to a podcast most is like, if I'm like working or something and I'm just like... I'm working and listening to something. Wow. You can work. You can write. Is that what you mean by work? Sometimes. It depends on the sort of thing I'm writing. Yeah, but sometimes I can't.

If I hear other words when I'm writing, I can't write. Like I need instrumental. But I will listen to podcasts on my lengthy commutes. It took me an hour and change to get over here today. Or as we've established, you'll listen to nothing. I will actually... I will drive with nothing on for long stretches

I just think. I've done that too. And I also listen to audio books. Oh yeah. Do you have a recent audio book of note? Um... I listened to Lea Remini... How do you say her last name?

Remini, I think it is Remini. I listened to her autobiography. This was her and she escaped from Scientology famously. Is it read by the author? Yeah. Oh boy, that's a lot of fun. It was good. She has a good voice.

I didn't finish it, but not because it wasn't good, just because I felt like singing. Yeah, I got you. But the Game of Thrones audio books are amazing. The narrator is...

He does a bajillion different characters and I know how to differentiate all of them. So he goes into it out of it and he's got a little horror effectation. He is like an award winning voice narrator.

There's this guy who does a lot of... That's an award. It's an art form and there's this guy who does a lot of true crime named Scott Brick. And he is just... This guy's got great pipes. Yeah, he's got a cool name.

Cool name. I was thinking about you, Nick. When you were... I know. Mitch... The thing is, is that Mitch, what a lot of people don't know, is that he has a beautiful singing voice. He's a great singer.

He really is, surprisingly. Oh, thanks for saying that. Hey man, what can I say? Did you throw an N face? Wait a minute. You do have a radio face. There's one person here who makes fun of me. It's Mitch.

See, that could be derogatory in the sense of the old face-for-radio cliche, or it could be a reference to the Cuba Gooding Jr. movie radio. Nice try. Either way... It's an insult. In radio, he's like a...

He's like a mentally challenged kid, yeah. Okay, yeah, it works both ways. I want to say, oh man, maybe that comes off as too bad. Jesus Christ, now I'm in trouble for the first time ever on this podcast. You're not going to get nearly as much trouble as when you slammed the entirety

of the Harry Potter series, so don't worry about that. Well, guess what? I saw Captain America Civil War and I thought it was okay. Have you seen it yet, Leslie? No, and I talked about this with Paul. I don't like it when people are mad at

Iron Man. I did not expect that to be what you said. Really, you can't even enjoy the Iron Man franchise proper because they're always the bad guys who are mad at Iron Man. I don't want Captain America to be in a fight with Iron Man.

They're a crew. I don't care for Scarlett Johansson's character. I don't even know her name. Black Widow. Jinx, we're both fucking losers. It's like, let's put the token girl in there.

But other than that, I like all of them until they start beefing with Iron Man because he's my favorite and just why? What's the deep dish of that movie? What's the problem?

Black Widow is about a fifth on the list, by the way, as far as her role goes in this movie. She's fourth or fifth most important. There's a lot of people on this one. Their beef is, this comes out, so spoiler alert.

We're going to give a good two minutes of breaking this down. We recorded this the week after the movie came out but this podcast is actually coming out about, I think, two or three weeks afterward. Spoiler alert for Marvel's Civil War.

The crying game is a spoiler alert. Yeah, I got you. There's not too much to spoil about this movie, honestly. This is one of my favorite Marvel movies. It's towards the top of the heap. Definitely, I didn't love it.

I thought it was pretty good and I enjoyed it, but there's a thing where the government, what's it called? Oh, no. You're looking to me for Marvel lore? I'm not a Marvel encyclopedia, actually. The United Nations wants them to sign.

Okay. I haven't seen it yet. They basically want them to sign a contract that says, you work for us. You can't take... You're not just Captain America. You're Captain every country. Yeah, you can't... You can't be

dishing out your own brand of justice for everyone all over the world. We have to control this a little bit. You can't be these... Yeah, because there was an accident. Some people got killed. We, I don't know, NATO or something is like,

you can't go around serving justice when... Iron Man, I think, is like, we should sign it. Captain America is like, we shouldn't sign it. That's where it kind of comes from. And... This is just fucking...

And then they get into a big fight about it, and then the Winter Soldier plays into a part of this. People get killed. They think it's the Winter Soldier. Neither of you guys care about the spoilers. I don't care. Winter Soldier kind of gets set up to be this guy who is, you know, like...

I don't even care about anything you're saying anymore. Neither do I. I mean, that's the thing. It's almost kind of like a relief of it's smaller. There's no alien that's trying to be like... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It should be aliens versus government. Government's bad.

The weirdos are good. I kind of... I like this one more than... Because every time it's an alien, it's like, I don't care about these crystals but this one was more just kind of a contained story and it's about how they kind of have fucked up

or whatever, but... It's not that much better than Batman vs Superman. But nobody liked that. I didn't mind it. That's a weird thing, in the theater, after an action sequence, people were clapping for this highway scene

and I was like... Edge of Tomorrow or the latest Mission Impossible that James Bond movie had better action moments. I don't know why these movies get such a pass. But it doesn't have Thor. Yeah.

I think there's a lot of confirmation bias because people have an affection for these characters. The same thing that happens in like... Wait, there's no Thor in this one? The Thor does not show up in this one. Why? It neither does the Hulk. I was just trying to throw in a superhero was in it.

I think people are just like Ant-Man. Hey, alright, I like Ant-Man. Here's my confusion with it. Did people really care about Ant-Man or Black Panther in these characters? I don't think they did. What people? I don't even know

people who are in their 70s. No, I think are contemporaries. I think people are age and slightly older, slightly younger. That's I think the core demographic for these Marvel movies. They're such children's movies. They are for sure.

I never heard of Ant-Man before the movie. I didn't know that that was a thing. I think there are a lot of... I think the people who have heard of it are men. I mean, there's some women, obviously, but I think it's largely a male fan base who loves the comic book movies

and I think they've... Marvel has been able to sort of translate that to a much wider fan base. I gotta stand by the thing I said before. I rewatched Jaws and you watch that movie and you see an ocean that's not CGI. You actually see the ocean

and it's just... I was watching it and being like, man, this is like Spielberg. It's one of the best movies of all time but still so refreshing to see the first Summer Blockbuster but this thing that's like a movie and shot so well

and looks real and you see the ocean and practical stuff and I'm just like... It turns into Goop after a while. All the superhero stuff. It's just like new graphic Goop and they shot some really great sequences in this movie. I'm being nice to it.

I enjoyed it but it kind of starts falling into the... We've talked about this, a graphic Goop. Sure. Who cares anymore? There's so much going on that the stakes start to... This was one criticism I did have of Force Awakens.

Leslie, did you like the Force Awakens? I said, okay. I liked it. I thought that there were too many fight scenes. There could have been like... Maybe they could have gotten rid of two.

There's a lot going on and I think one thing... What I was going to say about the Force Awakens in reference to your Goop point is there's a point where they blow up five planets and in Star Wars Episode 4 A New Hope they blow up one planet

and it's such a profound... It's played so seriously and it's like oh my god the stakes are so big and in this one they blow up five and it's just kind of like... Man, they're kind of like shaking their fists at them. I'm starting to like you. The event has gotten so large

the scope has gotten so big that now it's abstract and it's hard to understand the stakes anymore because blowing up one planet you can process or blowing up five planets even though the scale of the genocide is much larger it doesn't have as much impact on the cinematic level.

They could have made the movie about trying to get Luke's lightsaber back and it could have been... The stakes could have been just as great. It doesn't fucking matter. I like the Force Awakens. I do agree with that. But I also like...

I think Star Wars one or seven or whatever the fuck number it is the first Star Wars is boring. I think that's a fair good... If we're pretending to be millennials for a second it's like...

I think that would be a criticism a millennial might have of or younger would have of Jaws. It feels very slow and long and boring. Jaws is a real... I love Jaws still and I watch it and I can see how one might think

that it's slow a little bit here or a little boring, but it is a real threat. It's a real... There are sharks in the ocean. There will always be, hopefully... Not for me. I hope they're gone soon.

I hope that... I mean, we don't want them to become extinct. I've never... I don't know... I don't think they will. Would that be bad for the ecosystem? I think anything becoming extinct is probably not a good call.

But regardless, I know I'm never going to be in a war with the stars. Yeah, I got you. So, I think Jaws being such a real threat and kids die

in Jaws. Kids get eaten. Which is amazing. You see a kid get eaten. It's great. It's so scary. I could happen to one of your kids. It really could. It's just... If you think that's too slow, I don't know what to say to you.

It makes me sad. But I like Empire Strikes Back. I don't... I never watched Star Trek. And I loved the first Star Trek movie. And I know that's all digital blo... like, goop. I thought it was a really good movie.

I like the characters. They can be done well. They're just a fatigue and I just... Especially when all the... like, every year, it's like, okay, these are the big movies of the year. Well, this is all that's getting made and that's where all the money goes.

Yeah, and now it's going to be like every year there's a new Star Wars. Star Wars just feels like that. That's why I didn't Force Awakens. It felt like more of that goop where I felt like some of the originals didn't feel that way. It's interesting because they make movies for children,

for kids and men, one of my criticisms for... of people were like, whoa, Rey is such a badass in the new Star Wars. I'm like, Princess Leia was like the original badass. She was so great. She didn't get to use a lightsaber. I was trying to find this out.

I was looking at my... I think that's fair. I think she didn't get to do the cool stuff that the boys get to do. She showed Jabba the Hutt. That was one of the coolest scenes there ever was. I remember while she was wearing a bikini, kind of as a very hyper sexualized, I don't know. The cool stuff that Luke Skywalker got to do,

you know, or Anakin Skywalker got to do in the prequels. I understand people getting excited by that because that's a new novel thing. I thought Princess Leia was cool and was a badass. I love Princess Leia. Princess Leia is great. I was trying to verify this claim and it looks like it might be an urban legend, but as we're talking about shark attacks,

I was looking at my phone for a second because I'd heard that Kelsey Grammer had a relative who was killed by a shark, which I thought was insane. That's crazy. I think it might have been an urban legend. I worked on the show Shark. I think it's true.

It's more fun to believe it, so just believe it. I worked on the show Shark with James Woods. The James Woods, yeah. That was one of my first Hollywood jobs. What was that show about? He was some lawyer or something. I don't fucking know. He was like a real shark.

He's good at playing a lawyer. He's a shark of a lawyer. You ever seen True Believer? No. It's an 80s lawyer movie with James Woods with a ponytail. I would love that. Oh, man, it's really good. James Woods is crazy, by the way.

I was in post, so I'd watch the dailies and after every take, I'd be like, what the fuck, what the fuck, over and over again where I was like, oh, man, it felt like... What's the thing where you swear a bunch of... Tourette syndrome? It sounded like it was almost again Tourette's.

Well, now he just does that on his Twitter account about Obama. Paul and I just watched this old made-for-HBO movie where James Woods plays a lawyer who's defending a guy who's accused of being a pedophile.

That guy happens to be Elliott from ET. Wow. Is ET in the movie at all? He's grown up but not... He's not that old. ET, we were waiting for ET.

You know, he is in the movie. He is. I mean, she. She is. Well, she... ET dresses as a lady in one scene of ET. Yeah, I think... I don't know if ET is a boy or a girl.

Yeah, it's hard to tell. I think she's both. I feel that way about Yoda, too. Yeah, I think canonically, ET is a hermaphrodite. I think it's in the stage direction of the script. Yeah, if you... I just bought the movie on iTunes and they just delete it to see where you see ET's dick.

You just bought ET on iTunes? Yeah. That's crazy. Why? Well, it's on HBO on demand right now. Yeah, no, it's on Netflix, but I want to own it. But wouldn't you want to buy, like, the Blu-ray? Yeah, but I'm never going to put it in a Blu-ray ever again.

Yeah, I'm with Mitch on this. Wait, why? Blu-rays aren't cool anymore? I don't know if it's there and cool, but I'm going to make a Blu-ray off the shelf and put it in my PlayStation 4. Like, all my media, I'm just getting digitally now. Yeah. Oh, but Paul says that Blu-ray is important.

Well, here's the... Paul, your husband, Paul Rusty, was on the podcast previously. Yeah. A cinema aficionado, a real film fanatic. He loves Blu-rays so much. How come he threw him out of the car window in the first season of Blu-ray? He tells me...

Because I was like, who gives a shit about a Blu-ray? It was Batman. It just was really cool on Blu-ray. That's my impression of Paul. Just really cool on Blu-ray. I saw a pipe dripping in the background. I'm like... That makes it good.

Because you saw a dripping pipe. I think it's stupid. I'm not buying Blu-rays, but I don't care about things like this. Remember, Leslie, you were talking to two nerds who were just like, that sounds cool. I'm sure what you were saying. Like the dripping pipe in the background.

I know, and that's why I'm... Okay, Paul, if you're saying that Blu-rays have better... and you can see a dripping pipe, great. Let's watch the Blu-ray. I do hate the PlayStation. What... Why does it have to go through PlayStation?

I think it's just that's one of the most cost-efficient Blu-ray players available. And if you also play any video games, it just makes sense to have a PlayStation that also serves as your Blu-ray player. I play video games, but I don't play a lot anymore. Yeah. I told you this news already,

but there's a new PlayStation game, what's it called? Uncharted 4. New as of this week. It'll have been out for a few weeks by the time we hear this. You hear this. Right now, my attention is taken by these little kittens. I got two kittens,

and I love these kittens. I'm just sitting on the couch, laying with these kittens, and I love them very much. I would just say... Mitch... They don't have names. Do they have names? No.

I was going to say something so nerdy. What were you going to say? Name one of them ET, and then name the other one Jaws. But that... I'm so ashamed. It's also two. One of them is a force of good,

and one of them is the bad guy in a movie. Name them ET and Jaws, and then close my door and never go back outside ever again. I'm good at naming pets, though, and I do have a whole list. I was thinking Huey for one of them, but I don't know about Huey.

I don't know. I was thinking about some human names. I've been thinking a lot about it. You were going to make some joke about me eating the kittens, I'm sure. I was going to make a joke about you wearing a bib that had a kitten on it, sorry.

It's all right. I don't know if I'm going to keep them, I really like them. You just said you love them so much. I love them very much. They're going to get sent to a kill shelter. I tell them, I pick them up in my hands, and I say, I love you very much. You know what?

This is something that we need to just pause on for a second. There's no such thing as a kill shelter. Really? All shelters are kill shelters. Gotcha. No one is trying to kill animals on purpose. Kittens are very cute rodents. When people don't get their cats spayed

and neutered, they reproduce. Yeah. And there's more of them. So they're not bad. They have no, they're rats, but they make cute noises and they look way cuter.

Oh, these guys. And it's like, oh my god, they're going to go to a kill shelter. No, they're going to go to a kill shelter. No, they're going to go to a shelter where hopefully somebody will adopt them. Mm-hmm. And... The idea of that, though, scared me too much

where I couldn't let that happen. I couldn't let them go to the shelter because I just couldn't do it. And I won't name names, but somebody calling you being like, Mitch, I already have two kittens and I just found these two

and if you don't come and get them, they're going to go to a kill shelter. No, that's not how it went down. It's like the craziest... It's so manipulative. There's an agenda there that has nothing to do with the kittens. That's not how... The woman who mentioned the kill shelter,

it was the adoption place. And I... And she said that the woman who was telling... They're trying to get you to kill the cats. The person who informed me of them wasn't... That wasn't what it was. There's this old-timey idea that people just love killing animals

and cute little kittens and puppies like go into the furnace. That's not a real thing. Never was. Or maybe in like the Annie times. Well, here's the issue. I'm attached to these cats now. I like them. And I don't know what to do.

My mom is like, you can't take care of yourself. You should get rid of these kittens. I think that we should let the Doughboyz fans decide. Yeah, we're out there. And this issue may have resolved itself by the time this episode is out. I don't know whether Mitch should keep these kittens. I use the hashtag... If you think he should keep them, use the hashtag

kitten smitten. And if you think he should ditch those cats, use the hashtag... Rats to cats? Rats to cats. I was going to say hashtag kitten shittin'. But I think rats to cats is good. I thought you were going to say kitten stew

for keeping them. Well, yeah. Maybe some input from these people. You know, they grow up to be cats is my issue. In L.A., you can't let them outside in L.A. There's a lot of stuff. I let my cat outside. Why can't you let him outside?

He got eaten by a coyote. They'll get eaten by a coyote, they'll get hit by a car. Yeah, there's coyotes out here. I think a lot of people don't know that L.A. just has coyotes roaming around. Well, especially they don't refer to them as coyotes. I would say... I do in my head.

Yeah, I've been walking in my car from where in Hollywood, which is like a cool hip neighborhood, the Franklin Village neighborhood, and multiple times I've been walking in my car and spied a coyote just out in the street and been like... Stop fucking calling it coyote! I'm just like, I want to get out of it. There's also skunks, there's just skunks walking around.

Skunks aren't weird, skunks are everywhere. Yeah, but still, to me, I associate those with like rural places and again, that's me being someone who's only lived in the suburbs and cities but like coming to L.A. and there's just like coyotes and skunks. I've never seen more skunks. Like, I would smell skunk growing up

in Long Island and in upstate New York, but I never saw them. Here in L.A., I see them all the time and I'm like, oh my god, because they're really cute and beautiful and dangerous.

They are dangerous. There's a ton of... It is weird, L.A. has a ton of coyotes. When I was in Ithaca, I remember I went out to my car, it was my sophomore year, I went out to my car to probably go get some sandwich or something. I

saw this little white fluffy dog by the wheel of my car and I was like, what the hell is a dog doing? You know, I think it gets cold. Went down to reach over, it was a fucking skunk. I was like... I was like less than a foot away from touching it. Why was it so white?

It was in an albino. It was nighttime and then it was just the white of its fur, made it look like it was little puppy and I thought it was little puppy, I almost picked it up. At least I would have had a reason for why I smelled like shit. I think

I told people after that, a skunk spray me for the next three years. But yeah, I almost touched with that, but the coyote issue in L.A. is bad. Cats get eaten by them, you see them all over the place, they're a majestic animal. They are coyotes? But they cannot be tamed.

Why are they majestic? Because don't they have a lot of Native American Indians? Maybe they are. They're kind of wolf-like. They're beautiful in that way. I hope you get eaten by one. You know, human coyote fatalities are pretty rare apparently.

I'm like a shark, stay away from those sharks even though that happens rarely, that one might kill you, but a coyote probably isn't going to kill you. Do you think that... I have a very big dog, she's like 70 pounds. Judy, beautiful dog. We love Judy. Yeah, do you think that a coyote...

A coyote wouldn't fuck with her. A couple of them would... If there's a pack of them, they would... But Judy's pretty safe, I know where she stays. She's pretty safe. She's never out on her own. No, I take her for walks though. What if there was a pack and it was just me and her, would they attack us?

I think with you there, you could just start kicking at them and you should be okay. They wouldn't attack us. Yeah, I think they probably wouldn't. That dog's big and intimidating. Let's talk about food. Okay, so we talked about... You wanted to come on the podcast and you had your pick and it's

Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen. What is your affiliation or association with Popeyes, Leslie? Well... When I lived in New York, I feel like I kind of picked wrong because when I lived in New York and I was broke,

there was a Popeyes right around the corner from where I lived and I would get it so often and I wouldn't tell anybody. I would just go to Popeyes by myself because I was so ashamed. I wasn't eating something healthy or...

In a health-conscious area that you were just sort of eating something that some people can consider trashy. Or cooking something, which I did. I was just sitting at Popeyes by myself and it was so good and I like... This was my neighborhood Popeyes

that I knew like the people that worked there. It sounds so depressing. No way. It's not just depressing at all. Well, it was nice. Some of them I thought were assholes but I just... I think that they rebranded Popeyes

because... Oh yeah. When I got it today, it did not taste like... It used to... I don't know, I guess like eight years ago. What neighborhood of New York was this? Lower East Side. Lower East Side, okay.

Was this like a mid-gentrification sort of era? That has been happening in that area for a long time. So this was... I don't know, I moved to LA from Brooklyn five years ago.

So this was maybe like eight years ago. It was on Delancey the Popeyes. That was still pretty shitty. I don't know... Yes, if I live there

it's being gentrified. Gotcha. So you... I know this about you. Classically aren't like crazy about all different sorts of food, right? Like you're very specific eater. Yeah, like I'm not a foodie

and I will try anything and I'm not a picky eater like that you said I'm a specific eater. Yes, that's true. Because I remember there was an interview that you had where you were talking about like

what you had for breakfast or something like that. Yeah, I eat cookies for breakfast. Like actual cookies. Not like mashed up with milk over them like a makeshift bowl of cereal. You just eat cookies for breakfast. I don't really love cookies but I do love

the way they taste when dipped in coffee. Gotcha. Do you like cookie crisp at all? No. I mean it's okay. It doesn't taste like cookies. It tastes like bullshit. Did your parents let you eat like when growing up could you eat sweet

cereals like that? It depends a little bit. Like we weren't allowed to have cookie crisp but we could have like pops and apple jacks but lucky charms. All bets were off at my house.

We had Count Chocula. We had Cookie Crisp You know a good one was Rice Krispy Treats cereal. That was real good. They had Oreos O's for a time. Those were real good. You know I always wanted them so badly

like Count Chocula and what's the berry one? There's also a blueberry but I think Frankenberry is more famous. I wanted those so badly. I would always ask my mom.

She would always say no and now as an adult I can freely eat whatever I want and I have no desire to eat them. Do they still exist? Count Chocula made it I feel like and then they brought back the other two right? It'll be seasonal.

There's Count Chocula, there's Frankenberry, and then there's Fruit Brute. How the fuck do you know all this shit? What the hell is wrong with you? I know a little bit of it. I've done a little bit of independent investigation but also my friend Roger Barr

who maintains iMockery this website has a he spends a lot of time digging into exotic candies and has a special affinity for these cereals so I have absorbed a little bit of knowledge from him. All the different monster cereals are crazy and I think they're all mostly Halloween treats

except for Count Chocula which is pretty much available year round but it's weird they made so many of them. America used to be monster crazy back it really was. I know people love in the 80s people were so into monsters. I think that's why I was so scared for all of my life because I was born in the 80s

and I in 1982 and I was I raised with a bunch of these monsters a bunch of ghost and monster movies monster squad there was a quote from monster squad epic length to drop that movie scared the shit out of me when I was younger that's crazy Mitch

I was very young and by the way fuck you wiger it was scary there's a moment the werewolf transformation is scary I was a little boy they also showed me like don't they like figure out that the werewolf is like nice part of their crew

they see him in the balls and they learn that he has and then they shoot him with a silver bullet which is made from melted down silver spoons and then and then when he dies he turns back into a man and says thank you it's actually very dark

here's the other thing too sure I am a huge pussy and I was afraid of it but at least they made movies like that back in the day with Jaws like we were saying a child gets more children why don't they eat up more children

they should gobble up some kids you can make those movies I mean you can totally make Jaws I bet on the same budget that Steven Spielberg made Jaws and when he made it I would love to make the Jaws reboot

I think that would be a lot of fun just call it another Jaws keep in mind Mitch is a guy I have to prod to come to a studio and sit in the chair and talk for 90 minutes and you're talking about him self-financing and producing a feature film

these kittens have changed me I'm ready to embrace life again I like these kittens have really changed you don't even know if you're going to keep them I think you should because it sounds like a positive change it is a positive change I really love them I've really focused on them

and I care about these little guys you're kind of biting Armin but I'm the cat I grew up with two cats Zip and Buster I had two cats grown up they were great Zip used to follow me around maybe you should think about naming your cats something Halloween related because they are black

Mons yeah maybe some monster my cat was RIP Rest in Peace but his name was Spooky but RIP is kind of a sick name for a cat that is a cool name or how about the Boo is a good cat name

my god parents have a cat named Boo or talking about classic cinema how about naming after the Ryan Reynolds Jeff Bridges movie RIPD oh my god name my cat RIPD hey a lot of that shot in Quincy was it really?

the actors stayed in Quincy I didn't know Quincy was pronounced Quincy yeah with a Z pronounce with a Z sorry I didn't mean to interrupt you Nick don't worry about it that's why on the behind the scenes footage you can hear Jeff Bridges say

I'm never coming back to this dump again oh lord actually you know what myself and Mike we met the guy from Big Trouble in Little China the bad emperor man he was in a Cathay Pacific

where Quincy turns to Dorchester right by the bridge the Neponset bridge he was in there karaokeing it up and having a good time it's amazing to meet a very specific character actor like that we took a picture with him

maybe we'll tweet that out I once saw the little girl from Sines in a diner and I asked her for her autograph oh that's cool she probably loved that my weirdest most specific celebrity

sighting I was at a Vaughn's waiting for the ATM or no I was waiting at the Starbucks inside the Vaughn's and waiting for the ATM which was right by it Deep Roy oh cool Deep Roy is the guy who plays all of the

Oompa Loompas and the new, yeah the remake Charlie and Jock Factory that's a good one crazy weird specific I want to get back to one thing before we move on we mentioned how you have some different

interesting unique eating habits or tastes in food your husband Paul we can say this because he's not here he eats the grossest shit on earth he really is a junk food eater he loves junk food

and never puts on a pound but he probably has really high cholesterol and I just don't think I just I don't know I don't think it's healthy or good and people like you shouldn't eat that way

I mean when I say I have cookies for breakfast so having coffee at night is too late if I had Oreos for dessert but I like the way they taste when dunked but I'm not drinking decaf because

that's weird and I can't drink regular coffee at night the way I see it is that people eat donuts for breakfast and muffins muffins are cupcakes so dessert also they're also pie

muffins are not pie it's insane insane donuts are cake yeah I think that's pretty fair and cookies are kind of the same except smaller

actually not as bad for you so I have like two or three Oreos another one I like is chess men oh chess men are good yeah the shortbread pepper yeah those ones are winners yeah I think you're right because

I used to have a chocolate chip muffin pretty routinely in the morning and no one bats an eye but you have a chocolate chip cookie and everyone's like whoa what a weirdo but yeah you're right it's all the same shit it's the same shit just cultural norms yeah Paul now season 3 of love is going to open

with Randy with a shotgun in his mouth you know what I'll stand by Paul I still have like my dad always told me he's like one day like you'll stop liking those things and like you'll wake up early and I'm 33 now and it hasn't really happened and I love

Cool Ranch Doritos it has never gone away I love to eat Cool Ranch Doritos I think just as you get older you need to pull it back I know that Nick knows that I'm trying to be healthy right now but I think it's fun to especially if you're working and you're stressed it's good to eat

some snack food that you enjoy you gotta take advantage of those pleasures in life I feel like what's your guilty pleasure? guilty pleasure? I don't understand the question what is your guilty pleasure for food you don't understand the

because I don't want to just have pleasures you don't feel guilty so this will transition well into what we're talking about fried chicken to me is one of the most indulgent things that you can eat

even when I was younger and I'd be like oh can we get McDonald's or something I would say KFC because there were no Popeyes around where I lived KFC was like the thing it was like no we'll get that once

every four to six months very very rare that you would get fried chicken and it just felt like one of those things which is strange because chicken is such a thing that every family eats almost every night we ate fried chicken a lot in my family

interesting was it home cooking or was it takeout? there is a place called Zorns I don't know if it exists anymore it's not fast food it's an old established place known for their fried chicken and this is where you grew up where was this?

Long Island but we didn't get I didn't grow up eating a lot of fast food when my parents would go out we would get McDonald's and McDonald's is my favorite fast food it's like one of my favorite foods period I love McDonald's

it's so good but like that's why I picked Popeyes because for a short period of time it really was a comfort for me and I loved it and I never felt that way about any other fast food place except for

McDonald's and White Castle now they don't have White Castle I've never actually been to an official White Castle but I've had the microwave White Castle burgers which I like the microwave White Castle burgers are actually tasty yeah

McDonald's and Popeyes for me I just didn't have it enough KFC I didn't eat it that often but it's a weird thing with this podcast no one actually asked to do KFC and it's one of the biggest

oh my god I totally would have asked to do that but I thought oh it's too big for little old me don't be crazy so stupid exactly needlessly humble like retarded no no no

it's totally fair we appreciate you ascribing such status to this a simple podcast but I think it sounds like you do have an attachment to Popeyes it sounds like you have a lot of memories wrapped up in it and I will say that we were not a big fried chicken family

growing up in terms of it was never prepared, I was prepared at home a few times but it was that was like an exotic treat it was typically KFC there was also Long Beach, California I always imagine the Weigher family

sharing one big bowl of gruel my mom and dad cooked us many lovely meals growing up but in the neighborhood I don't remember if there was a Popeyes because Popeyes isn't a thing I hadn't until adulthood I think in the neighborhood I'm sure there is one in Long Beach but around where we lived

there was a chinear chicken which is kind of defunct, there's a church's chicken which is subsequently merged with Popeyes now Popeyes and churches are one and there was a KFC was the closest and the most frequented of these chain chicken establishments but fried chicken is so good

it's so fucking good it's just indisputably because you're adding a layer of bread and oil to something that doesn't need it you can just eat chicken as is you can roast chicken you don't need to add this extra layer of coating you're just adding it for flavor

but it adds so much and it's so delicious and I'm not even a chicken freak I used to love chicken I grew up eating chicken all the time now sometimes I think it's a little gross but I won't

I'll eat fried chicken because it's so good chicken if prepared poorly or weirdly I can gross me out too it's such a weird bird I love Thanksgiving I love turkey I love a big turkey dinner

just the I feel like chicken is more of a gamier kind of veiny bird a chicken cutlet is great too yeah you can get bad chicken

I think chicken more than any other meat suffers from if we're putting aside subway caliber cold cuts and we're talking about whole meat I feel like chicken is probably the one that's been the most mechanized they've bred chickens

to be the same size so they can be raised and slaughtered in these factory farms and they pump them up with a bunch of antibiotics and I think you sometimes end up with that grayish flavorless meat that's been in a walk-in freezer

for a couple of weeks yeah I mean it is so heavily processed but I think when you get good chicken if you go to some place and go to a nice restaurant that has a fresh free range chicken

that can sometimes totally be worth the price just because it tastes so it has so much inherent flavor do you know the funny thing about fried chicken is that I feel like people love the skin they eat the skin today I was just like oh I love

that skin anything fried is good you know there's so many problems with Popeyes and I hadn't been there in a long time but now it's like Popeyes Louisiana kitchen

yeah they rebranded in 2009 I gotta say I know how it seems like you're disappointed in it but there's no corn there there's no corn side I didn't realize they'd gotten rid of the corn which is look did you eat it today yeah I had it actually

for lunch today yeah I had it for lunch day as well I like the rebranding they do I wonder if and if not they should bring back the corn that's kind of a crazy that's such a normal side yeah that seems standard to have with fried chicken is corn

but I do like that some of they've got some of these more bayou sort of dishes they got the red beans and rice I love red beans and rice I'd always get the red beans and rice at Popeyes and I like that they have some of those sides that maybe you can't get at some other chicken places I want to say though

I didn't care for it the rebranding oh really the rebranding of it though just in general yeah I like Kentucky fried chicken I don't like Cajun blah blah blah blah blah but you liked it for a time though right there was a time when you really liked it

it wasn't rebranded as Louisiana Cajun blah blah it was just Popeyes all American yes good old Popeyes that was the it was like a cheaper version it was like so Kentucky fried chicken was KFC yeah so they were like

cool and they thought they were cool because they're just KFC now and I'm like no I'm going to keep it real at Popeyes which was also just way closer to where I lived right downstairs and it was very real is there but let me ask you this

is in your old school Popeyes days when you were visiting there years ago would you get the original or would you get the spicy original you don't do the spicy this is something that should be known on this podcast

to everybody who's listening something about me I do not like spicy food gotcha now in LA today everything is fucking goddamn spicy there's a lot of heat around here it's bullshit

I ordered a chicken salad sandwich spicy are you kidding me I got pasta everybody just assumes let's assume that we love everyone loves spice and we'll throw in

these chili flakes on a perfectly awesome thing on the left side red sauce everywhere I'm so mad at it it was never a problem for me before I moved to California I gotta say I like spice

everybody does look I know I'm in the minority with this I don't like spicy food and guess what else I don't care for roller coasters what on earth what is this attack on roller coasters for you don't like space mountain

you said that like I thought of the worst offender of roller coasters I just think roller coasters and that kind of thrill and chill and spill is ridiculous I will definitely

hold everybody's bags and smoke a cigarette and eat a churro you need that person in a team anyway so that's great I went on the cyclone once coaster at magic mountain in Coney Island

different one it ruined my entire life it's kind of like I don't like jumping into a cold pool people just jump in I used to be into the cold pools and I will say there was a time when I was very

afraid of roller coasters around the time when Mitch was getting scared of the movie monster squaw I was like 5 years old you fucking asshole when I was a kid we went to Disney world this was inexplicable because we lived 30 minutes from Disneyland

my entire life and for some reason we took a family vacation to Disney world in Florida one year well it's the superior Disney Disneyland is better anyway we'll fight this battle some other time we went to Disney world in Florida and my parents convinced me to ride

their version of thunder mountain whatever it is their inferior version of thunder mountain but I was so scared of roller coasters I decided to go on it and midway through I just burst into tears and started crying just sobbing on the ride that's fucking pathetic

I remember just crying and I remember I turned to this family behind me and then I ruined their day because they saw a crying kid and then we got off the ride and they made my parents take me back to the hotel in the middle of the day

you ruined their trip as an adult you like roller coasters but as an adult I like roller coasters there's a time when I had a version and then in middle school I started to come around and be like into it okay so my whole life as a child in middle school

always hated roller coasters never went on them I'm not doing it then as an adult in my 20s I thought you know what I'm just I should go on a roller coaster I my instincts were correct I never should have gone

on that roller coaster it hurt I got whiplash I have like had physical discomfort from them like just like just being jostled and getting yeah hurting my neck hurting my back I said like pain killers yeah I like I enjoy roller coasters but I just want to say

that Walt Disney looked around Disneyland and said this place sucks we should make Disney World and that sounds like we won't start it but anyway I do like the ones where you don't move really but the screen does okay that's fun I like the combos of those where

the ride moves but then also the yeah you move a little bit yeah well you've got star tours you got the Minion Mayhem at Universal Studios that one's who Minion Mayhem is great that one's a lot of fun you love Minions I do love the Minions I think they're great I think they're very very cute this is the dark side of Nick

the same reason he likes the Minions is the same he likes the Force Awakens and it's because he doesn't want to put a belt around his neck and hang himself from his closet but aww listen I like jumping into cold pools on hot summer days

in fact when I take a shower every morning I give myself a cold little spray to wake me up I like it that's so crazy that is weird that's weird why are you always so hot Mitch I'm a big chubby man I know but like you never get

you're just freezing in here I'm from New England and it's oh you are in New York I guess it's cold I like it colder first of all I would never I really don't care for going into cold pools at all

if I am forced to I will go in inch by inch as slow as I want because that's the kind of woman I am I get to make that choice and I'm so happy I don't there's a lot of peer pressure around try wasabi

with your sushi no it ruins it it hurts my mouth as an adult I think that's very I think it's admirable that you have your principles you stand up for them and you just sort of like I live my life the way I want to live it that's self-determination I think that's

that's empowering and admirable and I think that spicy food hurts my stomach a lot so I get that that does happen I do get the rumblies that's what I have on me now the rumblies Jesus you turn like your diarrhea shitty gross after eating spicy food experience into like some like Disney

sounding cartoon thing the rumblies it's not necessarily manifested itself in a grotesque way but just more sort of like it just kind of feels like your tummy rumblin you know did you ever say to Natalie I have the rumblies I have said that yes I think Nick is cool

oh boy I'll take that I know the rumblies I like it when you're when you get mean we got to talk about Popeye's chicken so I went today I also just want to say I like to keep it at 65 degrees I think it's nice and cool at 65

what the pool? no temperature temperature in general yeah 65 degrees it's pretty cold I'm literally wearing a coat in the house if it's forget it yeah I'm more like a 72 man age a 69

alright okay yeah let's get there if you've got a preferred temperature for your domicile hit us up with hashtag what's your room temp oh my god alright so I went to Popeye's today

and I went to the Popeye's I had to go over there used to be a Popeye's right by my apartment actually closer to my new apartment than it was to my old apartment and you know it just kind of like the trailing indicator of gentrification the budget friendly

fried chicken restaurant Popeye's closed a couple years back and turned into a Starbucks and so that Popeye's is no more which is a shame and similarly I was going to ask if I could do Starbucks I should have done you know what come back and do Starbucks

we can talk Starbucks we did it once with Joe Saunders but you know Joe is a terrible guess Joe is very funny Joe's a good guy I love Joe Nick please so now the Popeye's

that Popeye's closed so I had to drive about 20 minutes towards the east side to go to the Popeye's I got drive through and brought it home and busy very busy and I think part of it is on Tuesdays they have this deal

and it's quite a deal if you're on a budget they have a two-piece leg and thigh combo for $1.69 not bad it is a good deal the Popeye's I want you to was

shockingly packed every single table had people at it and the line was to the door and I want to late lunch I want to like 2.30pm and it was just past the lunch rush just hop and drive through was full

out back into the street and just parking lot was full I went around 12.30pm it was packed and also was very nice looking inside I know that we talked about this a little bit I think that they did a good job with the rebranding I think it seems classier

the Popeye the weird cartoon Popeye I just didn't know it was kind of like Popeye the cartoon character seemed kind of attached to it it seemed after Popeye the cartoon character they later have made that connection for branding and then they had Popeye

associated for a while and then they got rid of it and now they have this new color scheme they've redone the interiors I get what you're saying that they've maybe changed the menu a little bit but I think the overall experience is nicer it's a little bit more inviting they have very futuristic LED menus up on the screen

that are changing it feels very back to the future too-ish it really wasn't what I was expecting I was disappointed and you know what when I walked in one of the things that I'm really intimidated by is when I go into a fast

food place that I'm not really used to going into and I don't know what to order and I know like you have to be fast you have to know your order when you're online at McDonald's if you don't know your order like you're the biggest dick I do get nervous doing that transaction

and so I got a little bit nervous today like I knew I know my go-tos are Popeyes but the fact that they didn't have corn then they had Cajun gravy mm-hmm yeah Cajun gravy give me a break we can get into that but it's definitely I just want to say Louisiana

the Louisiana fast thing is the thing of like Popeye is a weird cartoon and like rewatching Popeye it sucks and the movie is kind of a weird disappointment the moment Rob Williams in it so I'm fine with getting rid of the Popeye character and the way that they're going I'm okay with it I think

that they did an okay job with this Louisiana southern Louisiana chicken place yeah I like it and you know as far as the food goes so I got the four-piece chicken platter I went spicy I do like a little bit of heat and that comes with all their

platters and combos I'll come with their biscuits I got a in my two sides that I got with the chicken platter I got the Cajun fries and I got the red beans and rice which I love and I got myself a Dr. Pepper man I got to say I know you had some trepidation some disappointment

I hadn't had Popeye since they'd closed that location in Santa Monica and it really took me back it was really really good I'm glad that you had that experience delicious I mean it was so like the skin was crispy wow

the meat was good and hot even taken at home after that drive it was just like it was nice and piping hot you get that biscuit right there in that box with that chicken so it soaks up a little bit that chicken grease you get a little bit of that honey that comes with a biscuit you put that on your biscuit some of that dribbles over onto your chicken

that's no problem at all it all goes together it's so so yummy cool it's so good the chicken and biscuits are so so good I don't whenever you want me to talk about my meal like that

I will but I agree agree so I got the what did you get Leslie? well I literally was like can I have two piece chicken can I have two chicken lollipops because I forget that they're

called drumsticks and I like dark meat me too I think it's so good so I got two chicken lollipops the biscuit the honey yeah that honey is great

and like you said when it drips onto the chicken that's part of the experience and I do love that the biscuit used to be better is the thing butterier however the biscuit I just had it

for dinner there's one right around the corner I was totally not crowded and it was nice and I did have a great dining experience I thought the biscuit was really good I just wished it was a little bit more buttery for sides I got the mashed potatoes

without the Cajun gravy ooh okay which I also like dip with my chicken in and you can't go wrong with the mashed potatoes and then I I was so thrown by the lack of corn

that I got green beans oh wow now the green beans were turned but I do like sugar snap peas and green beans and I was like whatever I maybe should have gotten macaroni and cheese but anyway

the green beans were better than I remember I had them once before the old Popeyes they were better than the old Popeyes they still weren't the only thing that really sticks out is the shining star is like the biscuit and the honey

and honey onto the chicken combo and I guess what I'm saying is the sides just disappoint me I'll talk about my sides a little bit and then let you get into things Mitch

so I mentioned the Cajun fries and the red beans and rice Cajun fries they're good, they've got a good Cajun seasoning to them you don't necessarily get a large portion it's equivalent to a small McDonald's fries so don't go in there expecting like a giant portion

it's closer to a one quarter portion from the Force Awakens it doesn't even ring a bell with Leslie she knows it's from Force Awakens but he's a shitty character Uncar Plus great but they are very good

and you can dip them in that Louisiana hot sauce which you get with your Popeyes order I like their Louisiana hot sauce it's a good version to heat if you are a heat seeker they're spicy chicken is good but I like to put a little bit of that hot sauce on it to liven it up even more

and then the red beans and rice those just really hit the spot it's a very specific dish and some people I think aren't going to like it but it's got this nice sort of andouille sausage flavor to it it's very flavorful

I just like having some beans it's just an unconventional side with fried chicken I think outside of the south and so it's refreshing to have it available over here on the left coast how about you Mitch what about your meal so I got the three piece platter

and that comes with two sides with a biscuit I got white meat and I did half and half which means I got half spicy style chicken and half regular I wanted more spicy but I ended up getting the drumstick and the wing and the breast was

was spicy and so eating the regular was kind of sad because like I said I was like it's alright it's not the greatest fried chicken and when you do something that indulgent you want it to be really good with the drumstick and the wing and then the breast, the spicy breast

it was fucking great I really loved it I think the brim of your hat keeps hitting your microphone oh shit I'm sorry thanks for pointing that and it was fucking great I loved it really tasty as my friend Nick Weiger would say

it was really tasty you say that all the time it's one of your okay god damn it it's not a weird thing to say I had that breast it was really tasty I just can picture you saying that well whatever you know what fuck you anyways you derailed me by telling me my hat was hitting my microphone

the biscuit yeah whatever I hate him the biscuit the biscuit was great I really liked the biscuit but I haven't my only experience with Puppies was when I was driving to Maine with my friend Frailbot

and we stopped we stopped at Puppies and we ate it and it made me sick so that was kind of my first experience and kind of my only experience with it but the biscuit was great nice and hot and I dipped it in

the gravy and mashed potatoes I was actually dipping in the mashed potatoes and so obviously that was one of my sides I got the mashed potatoes and gravy which I thought were good they have the Cajun gravy which is weird I agree with you that it is weird but it's their own thing

and I was dipping my biscuit in there and I liked it I got the mac and cheese as my other side and that didn't do it for me as much just because I feel like there's better mac and cheese yeah I agree and it's just kind of bad watery cheese not terrible I still ate it all of course but oh shit I hit the fucking mic again

but I just expected better and I think it should be better I've had their mac and cheese in the past and you would expect especially with its southern heritage you would expect it to be like all this is going to be a standout but yeah I think it's kind of okay I think there's better ones available I agree

and shockingly if there's anything I would put spice in it's mac and cheese I like it with Tabasco is that crazy? no that's good but for someone who hates spice to like a little bit of Tabasco with the mac and cheese

that is pretty unconventional it is I don't know why I wish I could get into spices it hurts my stomach too my mouth my taste buds it hurts you know like red hot or something cause red hot is like

I never heard of it you should maybe try Frank's it's kind of like a lesser Tabasco it's a starter sauce it's a sauce Frank's red hot what about like regular brand Tabasco I think Tabasco is pretty low on the heat

indicator these days considering how many super hot sauces there are yeah but I think Mitch is right I think Frank's red hot cause that's the one that is usually used for buffalo wings I think that's a pretty decent starter hot sauce I think like anything you can

what's the word I'm looking for you can condition yourself to tolerate it I think you just a little bit at a time I just quickly say that I got I got a drink with that and I got a Hawaiian punch with my drink

they really pushed a Hawaiian punch there so I got one they have like I got a lemonade and they pushed lemonade too which is minute made lemonade but they sell it by the leader it's in two leaders it's really strange to take it home with you they're sweet tea

people like it you don't like it well I used to love it and then when I got some today and I took a little sip and it made the front my front teeth hurt and I was like holy shit I've never encountered something that

sweet that my teeth hurt how do you feel about that cause I have a sweet tooth like I love sweets how do you feel about Hawaiian punch do you like cause I love Hawaiian punch I like a fruit punch I like a Hawaiian tropically drink I love I love certain drinks with certain foods

so for example I think Hawaiian punch or fruit punch with ice tastes great with pizza oh that's interesting I like that combo I would never have thought to do that I'll give that a go that reminds me of like a little kid

but I love it like a pizza in Hawaiian punch sounds great I used to have Hawaiian punch there was a time when I had a Hawaiian punch or cactus cooler as my lunch beverage every day at school I remember those that's when you were fat wiger I was a tubular boy

I had sips iced tea do you remember that no I don't remember that sips iced tea Mitch it was a box drink and it was SSIPS oh yes I remember that brand maybe that was a east coast thing I know you don't get to do them as much as an adult

I'm sure wiger still gets them I look for them at the supermarket but they're very small yeah they're compact yeah I think my favorite box drink was probably ecto cooler which my understanding is they're bringing back they're bringing it back yeah they're bringing back ecto cooler

wait I want to know what it looks like so badly right now I know but did it look like a Capri Sun it was like a yellow it was a high C and it was like a yellow box that had there was a time when it was a green box with an orange box with a green slimer and then they changed it to a yellow box

with a green slimer and the fluid itself if you ever emptied it into a cup outside of that opaque box and straw it was actually like an orange tangerine color I also to wrap up my meal I got the strawberry and cream cheese pie I love the filling

but the pie its shell itself I did not like it was too fried it was like a wanton almost but the inside of it was nice I liked it a crazy that was a very heavy meal I got obviously I'm impressed that you got the dessert

sometimes they don't really I don't know if I saw a dessert option or if I did it looked like an apple you know I think a lot of fast apple situation I think desserts at fast food restaurants are often an afterthought

they're including them because they're just like we should have these sometimes people want something sweet but a lot of times they feel like they're not unless it's a place that does shakes there's not really a reason to get them McDonald's being the exception yeah I guess the McDonald's apple pie

is amazing I like it but I like their apple pie I recently had a cold one on oh yeah that's true also there's sundaes though at McDonald's those sundaes are good

like a post kids athletics treat yeah before we get our final thoughts on Popeyes I just want to say we all got fried chicken bone in are you guys because I like chicken strips too and especially like I was saying like it's undeniably unhealthy

to get fried chicken so a lot of the times I will just do the chicken strips because I feel like for some reason that feels better to me even though it's not even the case but I'll do the chicken strips a lot of the time because also like it's like I know these might be better or something

if you're going to a fried chicken place yeah are you guys are you always are you a bone guy do you always want the bone or are you not where you go for strips I'm pretty close to being a bone

universally a bone guy but there is one exception which is that if I go to a ball game and they have bone in I'll get the chicken strips there in a ball game scenario how about you Leslie I will only eat I'm a bone girl

and I like nuggets I will only ever eat strips when it's not from a fast food chain so like at birds I like to call them chicken fingers yeah

in real life of course just like a kind of cool Hollywood bar it's like so not cool it's like the worst place in the world but they have good food I think if you might perceive it as cool just like looking at it from the street

it's cool to me it's a bar that has fried pickles and chicken fingers and they have good dipping sauces so I'll get it I'll fuck with a chicken finger but nuggets at fast food places

and if it's a chicken place like Popeyes I gotta go or KFC definitely bone yeah nuggets are another issue I feel like if it's a chicken place I think Leslie is right we've talked about buffalo before

but I wanted to get your thoughts on fried chicken so if you like chicken strips better hashtag fuck with a finger if you like fried chicken with bones in hashtag oh boy alright let's get to our final thoughts

so this is how this will work Leslie I'll give you a briefing I'll give you an opportunity to give your closing statement your summation of your thoughts on Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen and then if you want to ascribe this chain a rating from 1 to 5 forks

so we'll give you a chance first so I think my meal Popeyes was fine I didn't realize that they rebranded and

I wish that I had chosen KFC I don't regret eating it and my stomach doesn't hurt and I liked what I ate but overall I guess

I give it 3 forks 3 forks go ahead Mitch so they call the place Louisiana Fast it's kind of their new what is it called, slogan and

they're not kidding because I got my meal in less than a minute really service is impressive I think it was less than a minute oh no it's okay we just touched on dumb stuff like that it was my meal was ready in less than a minute

that's nice, especially for how crazy packed the place was but it's all about, it comes down to the food and like I said one of the most indulgent things undeniably not healthy it just feels that way to me a thing my parents would never want me to get

I want it to be good I think that spicy chicken breath made it all worth it I really enjoyed it my first experience with Popeye so I don't have my last experience with it was really bad and I didn't really understand what the thing is

their rebranding I understand them a little bit better I will say that when I was finishing my meal a weird older man put his bag on the chair across from me at my table and stood there when at this point now tables had cleared out and there were empty tables

so I just want to say fuck that weirdo really weirded me out and then on the way out I went to top off my fruit punch and a guy got right behind me immediately inside as soon as he got behind me so I moved to the side

and he said thank you and then he started getting ice and then I awkwardly tried to get more punch and the Hawaiian punch went all over my hand so that's how I ended my experience at Popeye's but even with all of that all of those weirdos that were in there for the deal

which is cheap and it's a good deal this big meal with a dessert was like 11 or 12 bucks for like 3 fried pieces of chicken 2 sides a biscuit and a drink and a dessert pie

I mean it's so much fucking great I have an anecdote because I didn't know that we were allowed so one thing at Popeye's is that they only have bags of ketchup they don't have a ketchup station or you can put it in a little cup which is insanity you mean like the packets

by bags yeah I don't know why I said bags I've never said that in my life they had ketchup packets only which is so disrespectful so even if you're staying not going you have to fish

you have to open up the packet which is impossible you kind of gel out like the 3 little bits of ketchup you're gonna it's just bullshit and the people sitting next to me was a mother and her son and they got fries

and she was trying to convince her son to try the french fry with ketchup she's like I promise you'll like it that's adorable and he wouldn't try he was like no I don't want to and she's like I bet you anything you will love it so much I loved ketchup as a kid and when I hear kids who didn't love ketchup

it always weirds me out I love it still I love ketchup still too I put some in my mashed potatoes a little bit too oh well that is strange it is I needed a little kick to the mashed potatoes

I like hot sauces you know what though you put ketchup on fries no one bats an eye you put ketchup on mashed potatoes or baked potatoes everyone thinks you're nuts it's like the cookies for breakfast thing I know see Nick has my back I know but I think you should try hot sauce

I like the way that Weiger like makes sense of it in a way that makes me feel better that I didn't even think of well he's dude he does that a lot for himself every day I think you're I think you're great and I don't think you should listen to Weiger

I love you very much in the words of little Nicky Popeye's chicken fucking rocks and I give it three and a half forks three and a half forks from the Spoon Man good writing not great not the best but good it's good I think Popeye's is delicious in fact

I'll go this far I think Popeye's Contra Leslie I think Popeye's is better than KFC I think it's the best fast food chicken available and I would even say that the only thing that for me in terms of widely available fried

chicken that I think is better the fried chicken they had at Albertson's supermarkets they had at the Deli counter the fried chicken at Albertson's supermarkets is great it's really really good I believe it recently they've merged with Vaughn's

Vaughn's purportedly has the Albertson's recipe fried chicken now so you know maybe give that a test but if you're out there and you know if you're a dope boys listener you've had that Albertson's fried chicken you know it's good let us know because I think

Spoonman is skeptical and I assure you that was that was fucking great that's the only thing I'd maybe put a tier above but there is the spiciness that you get on that Popeye's which is really great it's just Albertson isn't like it's a it's a supermarket it's a supermarket but they have really good fried chicken at Deli counter I get

what you're saying I know it's unconventional that's why it's noteworthy and that's why I'm gonna try it it's worth trying I just don't think you can I don't it doesn't count as a fast food or you're right I agree that's why I said Popeye's is the best of the fast food ones the only thing that's widely available I just spelled all this out I said exactly

what you you're you were saying I said that I spelled that out in my setup see this why don't you listen to this madman you are both a bunch of knuckleheads biscuit is great great biscuit of Popeye's sides are good I really like red beans and rice

I like that's an option service is really good considering what a madhouse it is I mean they're they're just like you know I'm out of there the Popeye's I was at in the drive-thru window had sort of like an airlock system for the drive-thru where you couldn't directly interact with a cashier

like you were sort of through a plate of glass the whole time and you put it through you put your money in they close one side and open up the other side I've only ever experienced this at one other place which was my childhood Arby's and it makes it like an already impersonal transaction a little bit more impersonal but even there they were just

like very friendly and we're trying to make sure I got the right order and everything and I was just like oh they're going out of their way and this place is chaos and they're still doing a great job managing it so I admire that food is delicious here's the thing I asked myself while I was there

I was like man I haven't been in years why don't I make this like why don't I come out here more often it's a little bit of an inconvenient drive it's not a crazy drive but it's a little bit of an inconvenient drive but there are places I will make that drive for you know when Popeyes was five minutes away

I would go with regularity when Popeyes is now suddenly 25 minutes away I'm not going anymore at all and that for me is what keeps it from reaching the heights of some of my most beloved chains it's not in and out burger where I'm going to go well out of

my way to get it just because I need that that fix but it is really fucking good I think the fact that it's the best fried chicken restaurant and fried chicken is a great food I have to rate it very highly to stay true to myself for that reason I'm giving Popeyes

four forks two times four and a half forks oh wow we almost went up the ladder but you had to go four and a half no I'm going all the way to four and a half I'm not stopping at the rung below well Popeyes chicken is the shiznit also as little Nicky will say he says that

it's definitely a huge crossover with Popeyes chicken that's brought up multiple times you guys keep talking about old Adam Sandler movies while I go set up our next segment we're back I love me too I love Adam Sandler I think he's so funny

and I can't wait to see his new movie on Netflix with David Spade who I also think is so funny I love Spade too I'm a Spade Defender what were you going to say before I cut you off Spade is going to be on the next season I heard I'm very excited for that wait are we like

people care about what we're saying what are you going to say you're going to say oh and then I cut you off of saying I love Sandler oh I didn't know like you guys keep looking at the clock and so oh you know why because we this might be our longest episode ever

I know I feel bad don't feel bad this is great it's us for not moderating correctly and talking about Force Awakens again for the 50th time but people like that I was going to say that I know

Popeye and Bluto and a lot of boys so you say Popeye weird Popeye oh yeah I say that's one of my P-U-P yeah you said Popeye Popeye yeah Popeye it's fine it's not weird like it's weird in a good way

I feel like Nick and I are like Bluto and Popeye but Nick doesn't eat spinach and I can just always beat him up if I need to I know so little about Popeye and what he means it's a bad cartoon no no I remember

thank you I remember Olive Oil which is such a good name for a character Olive Oil what were you going to say when he said keep discussing Adam Sandler movies I was going to say I know I was like oh I was

I was going to ask Nick if we were doing this taste test yeah oh yeah which we are I didn't know if I was supposed to be surprised admit was it no it's a well so we have a regular segment we do we would discuss the restaurant we just finished our discussion of Popeye's chicken and now we're moving on to the next segment which is that we we usually give something a little

taste and and give our assessment of it but this is a this is a special segment I've got a mystery beverage and Mitch and Leslie must try to guess what it is it's the Weigar Challenge I already by smell mm-hmm so know what this is and I

I'm going to be so upset if I can't think of what it's called okay all right well well give us a sense of smelling and tasting we were just talking about tropical and fruity drinks and and this one smells a lot like a tropical drink it's got a red or kind of like a dark

reddish grape fruity color almost or a Hawaiian punch looking color let's see here it comes in a plastic you can get it in a big size I used to drink this a lot as a kid like you can I

I this is this is tough on I'm pretty I'm pretty successful at the Weigar Challenge it's almost like close to Snapple it's not is it's no hold on I was thinking Snapple it might be Snapple

I think it might be Snapple fruit punch but I'm not sure wait I taste a little bit of Kiwi though or okay yes Kiwi the green like a papaya maybe papaya is there a tropical Snapple

it smells it tastes and smells so familiar to me so nostalgic the end it doesn't finish strong weirdly it's such a weird drink because it's not juice it's a fruit

drink it's a really this is this is this is a tough one I I'm gonna go that this is here's my here's here's my guess Kiwi Strawberry Snapple Mitch is going with Kiwi Strawberry Snapple Leslie do you have a guess

I mean I I think that's wrong think like I don't even remember the names of Snapples if you can still get them I know it's not Cherry Lime Ricky I guess hold on

I don't know if I'm right though your answer is not yet locked in if you want to change your answer you can answer it you can change it I've given it to you can you give me a hint there are no hints in the Weiger Challenge this is purely based off of your your senses I've just given it to you in coffee

coffee cups plain little styrofoam coffee cups so is it like a Country Time Strawberry Lemonade I'm getting a little bit of a hint I'm getting a banana in there too there is like a Country Time Banana Strawberry Medley

Country Time Banana Strawberry Medley is that your guess sure Mitch are you sticking with Kiwi Strawberry what was it Kiwi Strawberry Snapple Kiwi Strawberry Snapple Strawberry Banana Country Time Strawberry Banana

I don't even know if that's a real thing Country Time Strawberry Banana Snapple Kiwi Strawberry I just want to make sure I've got it straight because I've forgotten exactly what this is neither of you are going to get this because this is a real curveball but I'm going to say that

Leslie you have won the Weiger Challenge because it is Strawberry Banana Flavor of Kobe Bryant's Energy Drink Body Armor okay first of all there's no world where I ever would have gotten that but second Mitch

did give me the idea of banana I think that's fair if you want to share the trophy I will be magnanimous and let you do that share the trophy is there a trophy? you each get to keep the rest of the bottle oh it's an energy drink

why didn't you tell us that I drank so much of that no it's Kobe Bryant's like sports drink it's a super drink does it work like Red Bull? it's hydrating, it's gluten free no caffeine I think it's just a hydrating sports drink

it's rapist Gatorade this backfire on Nick this is the last thing Kobe is his god he didn't want this controversy to be brought up I don't know no I don't care he's a rapist what the fuck do I care

strawberry banana I knew that there was no oh wait there is Kiwi in here isn't there or apple or something the flavor of strawberry banana may have Kiwi added to it well I said strawberry you're drinking more you just

I guess it's not going to keep you up you can have the trophy because I don't like it okay there we go I'm going to say by virtue of giving you the trophy that means Leslie has fully won the Weigert Challenge this is the best thing that Kobe Bryant has ever done five championships

that's the Weigert Challenge just like a restaurant we value your feedback let's open up the feedback today's email comes to us from Evan McBroom Evan writes cool name it is a cool name I love the podcast and I have been avid listener for some time your deep seated anger toward each other only makes me want to listen more

my question revolves around road trips when I was a kid our family always drove to our vacation spots and one of the highlights was getting to stop a chain restaurants which varied by region I loved eating at Shoneys in the south or seeing the special sandwiches change at Wendy's from steak to steak my favorite story from these stops revolved around my dad

getting increasingly angry as he messed up an order at the drive through trying to keep track of what everyone wanted he both loved and hated it at the same time anyway do you guys have any fond food memories of family vacations and or endearing quirks for the family eating experience on trips Leslie any thoughts

any chain restaurant experiences or food memories from vacations that was such a nice email thank you Evan I remember sometimes my dad would surprise us and come home from work

with like a couple of sacks of white castle and it was like oh shit it's on and he would just get like sacks of burgers and fries and

and then on family trips wise we were real we stopped at this place called Graces which was a hot dog place so I guess it's fast food but it was more of like a country bumpkin kind of hot dog stand

um that's all I have to share yeah I think for me I've talked a little bit about my family vacations on the podcast before but we did a lot of just driving around the country and we would just take long road trips that I felt were interminable

and then we'd go to camp grounds and camp but one thing, one chain restaurant memory I do have that I always look forward to I would go to Boy Scout camp Camp Tokwitz and on the way there was an ANW restaurant

which they don't have in the general vicinity of where I live and this was like an hour and a half drive and the last stop of civilization before you go up into the mountains and you stay at this horrific Boy Scout camp for a week was this ANW I think I've been there

it's fucking great we would get to go there I would get a bacon cheeseburger and it's so fucking good the only thing I look forward to about that trip and coming back down on the mountain we'd stop on the way back there is so fucking good

they shipped you off to camp? was it Boy Scout camp every summer? no it wasn't Yoastamity this was in Southern California I don't know what the fucking National Park was one of those shitty was it kind of like heavyweights like that movie heavyweights? it was more like camp nowhere

I've never seen that why you Mitch? I always remember we took a big Winnebago down to Florida to go to Disney one time but I can't remember I remember we at one point went to Margaritaville when I was younger

but as far as trips when I was like that I can really remember I went to the Buckhorn Exchange in Colorado with my sister and my dad tried to convince me to get Rocky Mountain oysters he just called and told us about that when we went to Chicago

there was like a few places but eating on the actual road I don't have too many I don't recall too many experiences with like my family eating at like too many spots on the on the road though I do I loved planning trips around that

and you know his email kind of there was a sad tinge to that because I feel like things used to be so much more localized like I remember traveling with my family up in like Maine and going to this like weird pizza place where everyone spoke French

because you know they that's cute that's nice and they truly like yeah they spoke all French and then I remember when we were in Vegas we went to like the shittiest petting zoo in the world that had like the worst restaurant we made jokes about it but I can't I can't remember any too many other meals oh the

I remember in Florida when we were in Disney like eating at the Brown Derby they have like a replica one oh yeah okay that has that's famous for the cob salad but yeah the graces that we went we had like a family house in East Hampton which

it wasn't like as fancy as it sounds it was nice it was great but it we weren't like baller gotcha and there was a place like graces which had hot dogs and then snowflake which was ice cream

and like yeah we as a family we didn't enjoy fast food together my mom actually brought us up with like pretty good eating habits yeah yeah I feel like if you're driving

with like my parents or something like we would try to stop and have some dinner at some restaurant or something but I can't not too too many pop into my mind right now but I'm sure there's a few of them and maybe one day when I have a family of my own I'll be

thinking about this and we'll go to some good spots yeah maybe is the pizza, french pizza place still around I don't know possibly maybe I'll take those kittens we'll go on a road trip somewhere I wanna go too it sounds like a disaster some kittens in a car with you for 12 hours at a time yeah yeah alright maybe you're right sounds like it's the worst idea ever

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do you have anything you would like to plug my friend Bobby who's my best friend in the whole world and he lives in New Hampshire or Maine or I think Maine and he told me that he loves this podcast and he loves you guys and thinks that you're so funny so I know he

listens to this all the time well we're lucky to have you and we would love to have you back this is great really? yeah of course I can come back if you want I do okay great do people do has anyone ever done that we've had a few repeat guests a friend of the podcast

Evan Susser is a fiction yeah you know he probably shouldn't have come back he kind of forces way back in we had dinner with him tonight I bet they're comedians and stuff no we have a lot we've got our friend Eva Anderson has been on a couple times yeah Eva's a comedian

Eva's great look you're definitely in that world you're the coolest do I have what it takes to be a recurring guest on any podcast here's what I say I think Leslie Arfin is the shiz knit just like the

devils in Little Nicky thought Popeye's chicken was the shiz knit I think Leslie Arfin is the shiz knit that was a cool thing to say that'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys until next time for the Spoonman Mike Mitchell I'm Nick Weigher happy eating see ya bye