Doughboys - Popeyes Wings with David Brown & Jon Mackey
Episode Date: September 5, 2024David Brown (@davidbrownpants) and Jon Mackey (@itsjonmackey) of The Brett DeMott Show with Buddy joins the 'boys to talk fried chicken favorites, Go90, and Baldur's Gate 3 before a review of... Popeyes Wings. Plus, the debut of a new segment, The Pit Hall.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/19/us/where-a-vampire-walked-tastes-clash.htmlhttps://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,986062-2,00.htmlhttps://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/theadvocate.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/08/908942a8-505d-11e7-993f-8b21f079e084/594020b91a96f.pdf.pdfhttps://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/anne-rice-vs-al-copeland-why-new-orleans-vampire-author-and-fried-chicken-icon-feuded/article_3e14d708-5c42-11ec-bc93-4bbc34d5082d.htmlhttps://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/eat-drink/do-you-remember-straya-on-st-charles-avenue-a-lost-new-orleans-restaurant/article_f15b44ef-9d77-5226-90f4-0ed1c4f7ca01.htmlSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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I've got Lestat, and I'm going to keep him.
These taunting words were from Al Copeland, the founder of America's third largest chicken
chain and directed at Interview with the Vampire author Anne Rice, as quoted in a 1997 New
York Times article.
For months, the two extravagantly wealthy and eccentric New Orleans celebrities clashed
publicly over their respective claims to the Big Easy.
Ground Zero, Straya, a gaudy, Vegas-esque, proto-Guy Fieri restaurant opened by Copeland on St. Charles Avenue,
which Rice and other Gothic revival traditionalists derided as an architectural eyesore.
The war of words played out via the media and full-page newspaper ads,
where Rice called the neon leopard sculpture-adorned restaurant, quote, nothing short of an abomination, while Copeland
teased, quote, I'm putting a little extra garlic in the food.
Rice's outrage was exacerbated by Straya's coincidental intrusion into her Vampire Chronicles
mythos.
The restaurant was on the same plot of land where Lestat saw his reflection and disappeared
at the end of Rice's 1995 novel, Memnach the Devil. The canon, as mockingly noted by Copeland, seemed to imply
that the vampire Lestat's soul was forever trapped inside a shitty ripoff of the Cheesecake Factory.
But like many wars of words, in time, it simply ran out of steam. Straya closed in 2000, Copeland died in 2008, and by the time of Rice's death in 2021,
the incident was a mere footnote in each of these Crescent City originals' larger-than-life
biographies.
Like Lestat at the end of Memnok the Devil, Copeland and Rice have both passed into Bayou
legend themselves.
But Copeland's greasy Louisiana Kitchen franchise and Rice's horny vampire IP both still thrive
and coexist here on the Mortal Plane.
This week on Doughboys, we return onceboyz. Doughboyz. Welcome to Doughboyz, the podcast about chain restaurants.
I'm Nick Weiger along with my co-host Drain Man, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell.
Okay.
Hey, like Rain Man except for trains.
Like Rain Man except for true rain.
People are referencing the fact
that I jack off into the shower.
Is that what it is?
Hey, this roast is inspired
by Mitch's bathroom standup routine.
Thanks for all the laughs.
From Brazil, Mateus A.
Wow, thanks, Mateus.
Mateus, that's cool, writing in from Brazil,
but I gotta say this.
RoastedBirdFuck.com
All these dignified jack-offers
who fucking write in.
Like, I can't believe he jacks off
into his shower drain.
I prefer to jack off at the opera.
Alright, dude.
I need to hear the
tones of Fellini if I'm going to
bust a load.
I always, I always nut at Carmen's.
I don't, I couldn't, Carmen is an opera I know.
I also said Fellini is a director, not a composer.
So I've also fucked up.
Yeah, it's okay.
Whatever.
We did, I think we did pretty good.
We did pretty good.
I think we did pretty good.
That was a pretty good riff.
I'm going to a Tiki place tonight, Wikes.
Where are we going?
Tiki theater.
Um, uh, lucky Tiki I think I'm going to tonight.
Fun.
Have you been there before?
No, it's a new one.
It's a new one.
And do you know, is it a new retro, like, is it like attempting to be the retro
sort of concept or is this more of like a, you know?
I think it's, it's supposed to look really, yeah.
I think it's more new age, but I think it looks really cool.
I think they're going all out in the look,
at least, looks department.
Puccini, that's what I was thinking of.
Puccini.
Puccini, yeah.
That's the dog composer? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I think we've done pretty good for the show so far, then.
It's close to wrapping up.
Bark, bark, bark, bark.
Bark, bark, bark, bark.
Ah, Poochini.
I think the Tiki place is at Tail of the Dog, or is it Tail of the Pup?
One is a pet store, I think, and one is a hot dog stand. It's at the hot dog stand.
That's confusing.
Yeah, I know.
One dog, please. Here you go.
Oh, shit.
That's not what I wanted.
I don't even know what a tiki place is.
The secret tiki...
Like a tiki bar. Like it's like...
You've seen this aesthetic where people have like island drinks and it's kind of got like, you know, um, what's a bunch of kitschy stuff around,
like a beachy sort of furniture, you know?
Do you like Jimmy Buffett?
Oh, yeah.
Okay. Is it a bar, though?
Because you said specifically Tiki Place.
Is it just like a hangout?
Oh, no, it's a Tiki Bar.
Sorry, it is a Tiki Bar.
For some reason, I thought it was like a Tiki Performance place.
Well, that is the Tiki Theater.
Tiki Place does sound...
Tiki theater sounds like its own thing.
I was trying to picture like Tiki plays.
Are you, so wait, are you guys,
are you guys Parrothead, as they call them?
Oh, no.
I wouldn't call me a Parrothead.
I know a lot of Jimmy Buffett songs.
What's your fave? You got a fave?
I mean, I don't, I would say probably Volcano.
That's a great one.
Yeah.
We used to play it in the marching band when I was in high school. That's cool as hell
Wait, what'd you play in marching band saxophone? You're sex guy alto tenor. What you're playing?
I played alto for the first couple years graduated to tenor and tried baritone didn't have the lungs for it
Whoa, yeah, you need a lot. You need some real pipes for the berry sacks
I played berry and jazz band but I in jazz band, but I was playing,
yeah, but I was playing alto in the marching band.
I was a snare drummer in the marching band.
Whoa, drum line, okay.
As a, I'm a tiny guy and I was especially tiny.
Yeah, we know.
I was in fifth grade.
Who can see?
I was in fifth grade with like a snare drum
and it was like almost like a circus act.
People were like, look at that tiny guy with the drum cuz it was like yeah yeah drum and
like I was like four six and it was like really hard to like carry it around
that's cool as hell I love that yeah I was the only one I guess I'm the only one
who wasn't in marching band here fucking loser I was a loser. I did. No. It's never too late, man. It's never too late.
I mean, you are right, I was a loser.
Yeah, but indoor.
Fucking dweeb.
This guy fucking sucks.
What, did you play football or something?
Yeah.
I did, I was very bad at it.
Fucking loser.
I had a weird high school experience
where I was in the marching band in my younger years.
I was a mascot.
Whoa.
And then I also played football my senior year.
All in the same game.
So I got to see,
I got to see the whole high school football experience from band to mascot to player. Every perspective. Yeah, and I didn't do anything senior year. All in the same game. So I got to see the whole high school football experience
from band to mascot to player.
Every perspective.
Yeah, and I didn't do anything one year,
so I got the fan stuff too.
Was there a full like mascot suit?
We were the Patriots.
Okay. So I had Patriots
and then I had short hair
and I would spray paint my head colors.
Lots of fun colors. That's cool.
Wow.
Do you guys play any Buffet?
Strictly Cheeseburger in Paradise remixes to the Cotton Eye Joe under beat.
The under beat.
I like that song, Fins, you know?
Oh yeah, Fins to the left.
Fins to the right.
That's a lot of fun.
It's very audience participation.
You love any time people can do one of these.
Sounds like you're in Hollywood too.
Finns to the left, stranger things.
Finns to the right.
Uh, Ghostbusters, Afterlife, uh, Afterlife, you know.
Still, still the same Fin.
Finns are everywhere.
Fin, that one Fin is everywhere.
Finns to the left, that's, I mean,
it should be the Hollywood anthem, do you agree?
I, Mitch, I agree, it should be the Hollywood anthem. Do you agree? Mitch, I agree. It should be the Hollywood anthem.
Fins.
Fins.
Is he in the, well, I can't talk shop,
because I feel like some people don't even know it exists.
Is he starring in that SNL movie or no?
I don't know.
OK.
Hold on.
Let me look at his filmography.
Maybe it's up here.
Finn Wolfhard.
He used to have a headgum.
That's his Wolfhard?
It is, he used to have a headgum podcast, I believe.
Really?
He did, yeah.
Did you work on that, Casey?
I did not, it was before my time,
but it was a movie podcast.
Okay, interesting.
Yeah, I'm Wolfhard.
While you're looking that up,
while you're talking about jacking off in the shower.
Yeah.
Today, getting ready. Where, where are we going?
Getting ready today, you know, people peeing in the shower.
I made the mistake of I turned the water off halfway through and then I was just standing
there peeing and then I was like, this is weird now.
No, no, no.
And I had to turn the water back on to make it unweird.
Yeah.
Because then I was just, then you're just peeing.
Yes. You think about what you're doing.
Yeah.
You've got to not judge yourself in that situation,
but I understand.
I should have just let it rip?
Yeah, it's fine.
Okay.
It's fine.
No, I think he did what was right.
I think you can, like, I think, I think,
but either way is fine.
Yeah, okay.
In your circumstance, if not that,
had that happened to me, I might do the same thing.
I wouldn't pee on myself though.
Yeah, sure.
So then I didn't need the wash.
Sure, sure, okay, yeah, no, that makes sense.
Yeah, all right.
I mean, I still think you did the right thing.
Okay, thanks. Yeah.
Well, split, we're split.
Finn Wolfhard is cast in the upcoming SNL 1975.
Knew it.
So you might be saying, Finn's to the left, SNL 1975.
Finn's to the right, the upcoming film,
The Legend of Ochi.
Yeah.
You might be doing that here in Hollywood.
Ochi, we're very, Hollywood's got Ochi fever.
We're all waiting for The Legend of Ochi,
where he's going to portray Petro.
That's gonna be a lot of fun.
You got the Petro role?
He's got that plumb Petro role in Legend of Ochi, so.
Willem Dafoe, Emily Watson, good cast.
Good cast. Who's directing? Isaiah Saxon. Who's producing? I don't have that here, right in front of Ochi, so. Uh, Willem Dafoe, Emily Watson, good cast. Good cast. Who's directing?
Isaiah Saxon.
Who's producing?
I don't have that here. Right in front of me.
Who's doing sound?
Uh, you know, I could, I don't know if I can get
the full credits for Legend of Ochi,
because it is in pre-production, so it's possible
a lot of those roles have not been fulfilled yet.
Pre-pro, that's what we call it here.
Yeah.
Fingers crossed.
Making it to say all of it when it comes out, though.
Yeah, we'll get, we'll, we'll do an Ochi double.
We'll definitely talk about it on the Patreon. Well, now we have to. Making it to say all of it when it comes out though. Yeah, we'll get, we'll do an Ochi Double. We'll definitely talk about it on the Patreon.
Well now we have to.
We have to.
But also, you know, we talk a lot,
a lot of dumb shit on the, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, we'll do it because it doesn't matter.
That's why we'll do it.
Who gives a shit?
We have 50 of them a year, so who gives a shit?
Who cares?
Who cares?
I think that's a pretty valid perspective.
You know what?
I mean, you guys are, just like in Hollywood,
you're attached to the Ochie double.
Oh, hey, there's actually nothing I'd love more
than to come back for the Ochie double.
Yeah.
I hope that they can put on your,
I hope they can put on all of our IMDB's
doughboys double Ochie attached.
Yeah, it's tough,
because now that you've put that idea in my head,
if I see an Ochie double come out
and we're not on it, I think it's
going to really hurt my feelings.
We'll do it with you like four years from now.
I agree.
We've got to do it with you.
I think we've got to do it with you guys.
When this animated film is completed,
we will definitely do this.
Oh, it's animated.
In seven years.
It's an animated movie?
Yeah.
Never mind, man.
It doesn't matter.
We kill it? We kill the project? You know what? I'm out on the Ochie double. You, you know what? It doesn't matter.
We killed it?
We killed the project?
You know what?
I'm out on the O.G.W.
You can still do it, but I'm out.
I mean, a Finn Wolfheart, I don't know, maybe it's great.
Who knows?
You got a drop to play.
Oh, am I hit him with a drop?
Fire sauce, Diablo sauce, mild sauce.
Hit. Fire sauce, Diablo sauce, mild sauce. Yeah!
Fire sauce, Diablo sauce, mild sauce. Yeah!
I got all of the tacos.
Did you eat every taco?
I ate all eight tacos.
Eleven tacos in total.
My ass is so sore.
Fire sauce, Diablo sauce, mild sauce.
Yeah!
Hell yeah, dude. Fire sauce, Diablo sauce, mild sauce. Yeah. Healthy, huh, dude?
Fire sauce, Diablo sauce, mild sauce.
Yeah.
I love that you were getting into it in the few seconds that they were pulling the clip.
That ripped.
Yeah, that was fun.
Well done.
I mean, it wasn't bad.
Hey, you song and the rest of you, what in the hell was this email?
What?
Jesus Christ.
This was a lot of fun to make and I hope you enjoy it. What in the hell is this email? What? Jesus Christ. Ha ha ha!
This is a lot of fun to make, and I hope you enjoy it.
Thanks for shedding light on the spicy potato soft taco.
Never would I have tried it, and now it's in my regular order.
You're welcome.
That is a really confusing email,
because it references Yu Song, who has not
worked for the show since pre-pandemic.
Yes, they were messing around.
But it also references a very contemporary topic
of discussion, which was the spicy potato soft taco
from Taco Bell, which we talked about during a Munch Madness
tournament.
Yeah.
Congrats.
He knows it.
Thank you.
Potato soft taco, beating the cheesy Gordy
crunch, which you know is bullshit.
Anyways.
I think the right call is made.
Shout out to my wife. TrottyBirdFuck.com. Shout out to my wife, who is a bullshit. Anyways. I think the right call is made. Shout out to my wife.
Drops at birdfuck.com.
Shout out to my wife who is a teacher.
Whoa.
My mom, Jack and Cody.
Wow. Thanks for considering Charlie.
Thanks Charlie, wherever you are.
Great job.
Charlie.
What up fam?
Nice dude.
What up fam indeed.
Nice. Our guest today hosts the podcast, What up, fam? What up, fam, indeed?
Our guests today host the podcast,
The Brett DeMott Show with Buddy, Dave Brown and John Mackey.
Guys, welcome to the show.
Thanks for having us, fellas.
Thank you for being here.
Very excited.
Long overdue, thank you for coming to the dough.
Yes, thanks for coming to the dough.
Thanks for also committing us to a future episode.
We're definitely gonna make it happen.
You're attached.
Attached.
Okay, I wanna talk a little bit
because y'all are both from the South,
North Carolina and Mississippi respectively.
We were talking Popeyes today,
but before we get into Popeyes,
this is, you know, we're in a topic
that I think the two of you know well,
an area that you've had a lot of in your life,
a food stuff that you've eaten a lot of,
fried chicken, where do you stand on fried chicken?
I would argue it's the most perfect food.
Wow, I love that.
I think it is my favorite food.
I think it's my favorite food too, yeah.
I think it's actually on the peak of the mountain
in terms of my like pyramid of best foods.
I'm a big sauce guy.
Okay.
Like I need, I like, I'll go to like enchiladas
with mole sauce if I can do something.
So like sauce things.
So like, I like, if it's going to be fried chicken,
I like sauces on it.
So like wings is my favorite part of fried chicken.
Yeah.
It's gotta, it's gotta be like a honey barbecue sandwich
or something.
I'm not just going to get like reggae, reggae barbecue,
like reggae fried chicken. Reggae, right. Yeah. Reg like Reggie Fried Chicken. Reggie, Reggie, right.
Yeah.
Reggie.
But, but.
I wanted us all to say it.
Reggie.
Reggie.
My name's Reggie, dipshit.
I, now I think Wags will disagree with,
I'm just saying.
Okay, we'll see.
Your sauce nuggets stance.
Well, OK, so a couple of months back,
as of this episode's release, we will have discussed
the KFC saucy nuggets.
The KFC saucy nuggets, the issue was that you got
all the nuggets pre-saus.
Are you eating more Popeyes right now?
The crinkle?
The crinkle, crinkle?
The subtle crinkle in the back.
Underneath your opinion? Did you tee me up so you could eat a Popeyes chicken sandwich? right now. The crinkle, the crinkle crinkle. The subtle crinkle in the back.
Did you tee me up so you could eat
a Popeye's chicken sandwich?
It was all my chicken I had to buy and buy.
This is also the worst package for that kind of,
like that kind of thing.
It doesn't make enough noise.
No.
The softest crinkle.
Very good.
The issue with the KFC saucy nuggets
is by the time you got them, they were so sauced that they'd lost the texture that you want from a crinkle. Very good. The issue with the KFC saucy nuggets is by the time you got them,
they were so sauced that they'd lost the texture
that you want from a nugget.
And they're also a mess to eat
because the whole thing with nuggets is like,
you want to be finger foods, right?
But like, is that an issue for you?
Like, because the wings we got today,
which we'll get into later,
those were like kind of sauced,
but they were like semi-sauced.
Yeah, that's kind of lame.
It's just kind of like they were putting the thing in like,
the sauce was at the bottom
and they weren't just like smothered.
I love smothered sauce.
You want those bad boys soaked when you get them.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
When I go to,
my grandma used to always take me to Chick-fil-A
at the mall in Mississippi in Jackson.
And I would get like eight Polynesian sauces.
Wow.
And I would eat them with a fork
so that I could candy apple the nuggets with sauce.
That's wild.
I'm a huge sauce freak.
I've seen the Chick-fil-A hacks
where they pour Polynesian sauce into the bag
and they shake it up.
See, I saw this and it made me really upset.
I tried it because all the breading came off
when I shook it around in the bag.
Oh no.
And I was like, it ended up being just like a loose piece
of no-breaded chicken with a bunch of like soggy breading
in the bottom of the bag.
That sucks.
Yeah, so it doesn't trust,
don't trust what you see on TikTok.
Are you, so are you a Chick-fil-A guy?
Is that your, that's your go-to?
And you're from Bojangles country,
but you're not necessarily the biggest.
I'm from Bojangles country.
Uh, born and raised. Uh, no, I grew up in a really small town,
so there was not fast food fried,
like any of the fast food chains near me.
I was like an hour away from like the nearest Bojangles.
So all of my, most of my fried chicken experience as a kid,
specifically comes from this gas station that was called,
it was called like four different things.
It was, Shortstop was one of it was called like four different things.
It was, Shortstop was one of them.
Boss Hog Gas was another one.
That's cool.
And then there was just like a lady's name
because she was the woman who worked there.
And people were just like,
I can't remember her name.
I think it was Glenda maybe.
It had all the names at the same time?
Well, it was, there was no name posted on the building
It was just whatever you called it, but they had really good fried chicken
And that was like the fried chicken I grew up on was like gas station fried chicken
But like Bojangles was the closest like chain fried chicken that you could get and we didn't have a chick-fil-a
We didn't have it wasn't even a KFC in the town. It was just Bojangles. So that was the
Yeah, I think even a KFC in the town. It was just Bojangles. So that was the thing.
I think the original KFC,
I think the first version of it,
if memory serves, was a gas station.
I think that was a thing.
Did you just open a soda?
I know.
I had to open it at some point.
Mitch, where do you stand on fried chicken generally?
I mean, I love it, of course.
Yeah, sure. It's funny chicken generally? I mean, I love it, of course. Yeah, sure.
It's funny, just because even boneless buffalo I love
and buffalo wings I love.
And fried chicken, it's that weird thing with fried chicken
where I'm, and I don't even feel this way about buffalo wings,
which just is fried chicken.
But fried chicken itself, I'm like, ooh,
can't have that too often.
And I don't.
Yeah, sure.
But wings, if people are having wings, I'm like, sure.
It's the same thing,
but with a buttery hot sauce on top of it.
So I feel like it is one that I try to not eat as much.
Of course, I was very excited to have it today.
But I love it.
It's great.
It's not my favorite food.
Pizza is my favorite food, which is boring.
Also like the masking of like,
for some reason,
like a chicken breast, when you're just like digging in
feels real raw of like, you're just like ripping through
that you can really see that it's the chest of a bird
that you're really working in.
Yeah, you're eating animal flesh.
Yeah, yeah, you just see the tendons
and all that type of stuff.
I like it.
Maybe that's where the sauce comes in.
It just like masks the horrors of this world.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah, I don't like the tendons in the,
I'm not a fan of that.
That always bothers me.
The veins, I don't like that.
I don't mind any of that stuff, but I am,
it's not like a thing.
I can kind of like overlook it, you know?
I do like eating stuff off the bone.
I do like that part of the experience.
Can we talk about, we pivot away from chicken for a second
because there were a couple of chains that y'all pitched
before we settled on this one.
But they were both ones that we'd already covered
pretty recently on the podcast,
but Chipotle and Fat Sal.
Oh yeah.
That's a real, he's the Chipotle man.
Who do you look at?
Oh, you gave it away.
I was gonna be like, who do you guys think likes which?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it's a, I mean, for me, Chipotle's the,
I would hate to actually do the research
to find out how many times I've had Chipotle in my life.
Wow.
What do you do, are you a burrito or a bowl or what?
I'm a bowl guy, I'm a bowl guy. I'm a full on bowl guy.
Deep in the bowl game over here.
Yeah, I'm always, I'm a steak or a chicken bowl guy.
I like it.
And I flip flop a little bit.
I just wanna say I'm a bowl man
and then I realized we did that for bowl.
We did, I'm a bowl man.
That's a part we did.
We had a competition called bowl
and then we've already done the parody song.
I was just thinking about it.
We closed the show by singing bowl man together.
It was a duet.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm a hard shell taco barbacoa guy.
Interesting.
I think I've said this to David multiple times
and I call him David because this is serious.
Yeah.
Hard shell with the actual sloppiest meat
you can get in Chipotle.
The second you put the barbacoa.
You gotta eat them fast.
You gotta eat them fast to keep the crunch.
But that's not fun, you know?
But crunch is fun.
Crunch is fun.
I feel like I've seen a lot of fun.
I think crunch is fun.
Of course crunch is fun.
Yeah, okay, all right.
That wasn't that, all right.
That's true.
There's not a crunch in the bowl that you're eating.
You're a sloppy bowl guy.
I was gonna say, I get the same order as you.
So I don't know why I was backing up saying,
crunch is fun.
Crunch is fun.
Crunch is fun no matter what.
It is.
Nobody's arguing that crunch isn't fun.
It's just the circumstances around getting crunchy tacos
with the wettest meat at Chipotle
have to be so perfect for you to eat it
in an ideal conditions.
Well, I don't get them delivered.
That's an in-person.
You can't get barbacoa artichoke tacos delivered.
That'd be a slop fest.
Yeah, that way my wife, she-
You gotta get it and run.
She goes with a barbacoa a lot.
And you know, it's kind of like this braised
sort of like stewed sort of beef.
But I feel like I've seen her do that
with the hardshell tacos as well.
I feel like I've seen her do that move.
Even though these days it's almost always a bowl.
Yeah, I'm a hardshell taco freak.
I would never get a soft taco.
I forget that Chipotle has hard shell tacos.
Me too, they do not advertise.
Yeah, they always look a little surprised when I order it.
Yeah, we got these.
They don't get ordered enough to where they're just
stale enough to hold that barbacoa juice.
Yeah, I guess actually they probably, yeah,
the taco shells are so stale
that they probably don't get soggy.
Mm-mm. Yeah.
I don't ever do.
I mean, I sometimes will do a chicken burrito from there, but I do.
I'm a bowl guy from there.
And it is a little bit sad man dinner for me sometimes where I'm like,
it's it checks off the things of it's tastes.
OK. And then also, it's not horribly bad for you if you make it the right way.
You can like, well, I got a little bit of cheese in there and some sour cream, but it's still like,
it's like 750 calories or something.
But you can tell exactly how many calories you're saving
by not getting the flour tortilla,
which is like part of my calculus.
250 or something. Exactly.
Yeah, see, I negate all of that stuff with my order
because I do, every order I get, double rice.
Wow. Double meat. Wow. Okay. And a bag of chips. So every meal I get double rice, that's wow, double meat, wow, and a bag of chips.
So every meal I get a Chipotle.
You go crunch, you still go crunch.
But the crunch isn't the star of the show,
the crunch is like an accessory.
Yeah, I know, it makes the show.
When I, the crunch is fun is the thing.
It is, it's so fun dude.
Crunch is fun.
Crunch is chewy.
So why did you say crunch isn't fun?
I didn't say, I never said crunch isn't fun. I did, I said crunch isn't fun. Crunch is chewing. So why did you say crunch isn't fun? I didn't say, I never said crunch isn't fun.
We did.
I said crunch is fun.
John Mackie says crunch isn't fun.
This is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
No, but my Chipotle order has like 1,400 calories in it.
Wow.
Yeah, that's why I'm the man I am today.
But he's been real pissed lately because he says
that when you order to go, you don't get as much.
This is, I've seen people talking about this online as well
because I've done a little bit of research.
If you go through the line
and you're looking somebody in the eye,
they give you the right amount.
You order online and they make it in the little side kitchen.
You can threaten them enough live
to where they'll add a little bit more.
They just don't have to answer for it
if they're making it in the little side kitchen.
So you get there, you hold the bag
and you're like, oh, it's a little light.
I think you're right. I think there are also just such,
such like assembly lines back there,
just churning out to go orders.
Like there's a high volume Chipotle we'll go to.
And I'll just, that ancillary kitchen is just always going.
So yeah. Yeah.
And I understandably, I get it.
We've said that it's fallen off a bit.
Oh, a thousand percent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
A thousand.
Listen, I go 10 years back with Chipotle.
I used to eat it when I worked near the Beverly Center.
I would walk to the Beverly Center
and eat at that Chipotle every day for lunch.
Wow.
And it was great then.
Yeah.
Now it's fine.
But I can't stop.
You know what's weird to me is that recently
it feels like there's a lot of places that were quality.
We talked about this with Tender Greens a little little bit where their protein has just kind of sucked
Where it's like and with Chipotle I feel that way too where I'm like
This chicken doesn't feel like it no quality control anymore. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened
You're just burning the hell out of every piece of chicken they throw in the grill. The podcast is starting again. We're in a loop.
Um, uh, Usong's name came up and he's also a huge Chipotle fan.
So I just texted him to see if he's still eating Chipotle these days
and see what he, what he thinks.
Hey, so the shout out was, uh, was well worth it for our old friend Usong.
Life is a Harold.
Uh, Dave, what is your, what is your Fat Sal's affiliation?
Oh my God.
First time I ever had Fat Sal's,
Betsy Sardaro ordered it like at two o'clock in the morning
and got like 40 sandwiches delivered.
And I was like, what the hell is this?
And I had the fat buffalo and I've never been the same.
Wow. Fat is. Wow.
Fat buffalo is good.
It's mozzarella sticks, French fries,
hot tenders and ranch in a sandwich.
Wow.
And that's everything I want.
That's all.
And she did text us the other night.
She was like, I got a Taco Bell with Gilly
at 3 a.m. last night or something.
See if you can find it.
It's very funny. But there used to be one right by me. last night or something. See if you can find it. It's very funny.
But there used to be one right by me.
Last night at 3 in the morning, Gilly ordered $150 of Taco Bell for three people.
It was incredible.
There you go.
There it is.
She's been having the same night for like, years and hours.
And it's still awesome every time.
It hasn't lost its luster at all.
Sounds fun as hell.
We can still do this.
I lived by one, lived by a Fat Sal's,
the one on Fountain.
Oh yeah, I know that.
So I could get there real quick
and to get the fat buffalo sandwich
and then as I'll explain, a giant cherry Coke,
because with every bite I take, I take a tiny sip of Coke.
That is like my style of eating.
Are you still chewing when you're sipping the Coke?
Take a bite, take like two chews, tiny sip of like Coke,
and then that really ties the room together.
It's making like a slurry.
So it's like, I do the same thing with like
peanut butter and jelly sandwiches,
do that tiny sip of milk.
That makes more sense to me.
I like the little bit of extra liquid when I'm eating.
The mixing of all of those flavors gives me chills.
You gotta give it a try.
In a bad way.
I wanna pitch a restaurant that comes with a meal,
and each meal has like a shot glass of the thing
that you're supposed to like sip with each bite.
I think that would be,
like that's the future of dining to me. There's just somebody standing there refilling
the little shot glass whole.
Just a little teapot that they just keep doing.
There's like, yes, 60 employees at this restaurant.
Well, first I wanna say, how's this for a t-shirt?
Life's a Harold and I'm in the third beat.
That's pretty good.
I mean, it's like for an older person, you know?
I mean, I could wear that, it would work.
Yeah, sure, right.
And I just think it's a good idea.
No, I think it's a good idea.
I'll talk to Charna and I'll figure this out.
Yeah, see if Charna signs off on it.
And if she does, then we go over to our
merch partners at Kinship Goods.
I'm sure they could whip something out.
If Charna signs off on it,
I don't know, do you know anyone from Dell
closest to the state or no?
No.
I mean, I think it would be Charna.
It is, okay, it would be Charna.
Okay, all right, we'll talk.
Everything kind of funnels back to Charna.
Everything goes back to Charna.
Everything goes back to Charna.
All right, all right, we'll figure this out.
Kim Howard Johnson is maybe involved,
the third author of Truth in Comedy.
That's right, yeah, yeah.
Right.
I'll reach out.
Reach out to them.
Also, I was going to bring up that we have a food experience,
you and I.
Oh.
Wow.
Oh my god, yeah.
I have a picture of it.
Do you really?
The only thing that exists from this
is the thumbnail that I got from the Go90
website of that episode. And I'll send it to you.
I still have it.
The thing that we've talked about on this podcast before
where it was like, ugh, I'm doing, you know,
like this Charleston Chew branded content video,
and it's like, well, you know what?
At least I'll have it forever on my reel.
I got paid 50 bucks, but that didn't turn out to be true.
Everything that you worked on has now disappeared, it's vanished.
Zaptoway, not even stored for any historical reason.
They know immediately that this doesn't have any historical significance.
Sucked into a void.
This is in the dead media.
The hard drive that it existed on is gone.
Yeah, the hard drives that exist on are gone.
It was like the content boom of like the 2010s,
where it was like Funny or Die was killing it,
College Humor, Busby.
Every cell phone company was like,
let's do our own proprietary video platform.
Exactly, right, right.
Yeah.
And you know, like some people realized like,
it was all bullshit.
Like some people, not me, I loved all the stuff.
But,
but it, we, we, that, that's so funny that I wonder
if that exists at all.
I'm sure someone has.
What is it?
Yeah, what was it?
It was Drive Share.
So it was Paul Scheer and Roger Huber show,
which was awesome to do.
It was just like, they got people gave you a premise,
you got in a car and improvised like a Drive Share scene.
And we were in one about Thanksgiving dinner.
Yeah.
And...
Well, which by the way, this is funny.
The two of you were playing passengers.
Yeah.
And then also there is an SNL sketch
that does a similar thing.
Which I don't know if it was before or after us.
I'm just gonna say it was after.
It was after.
Way after, way after.
Everybody saw the Go 90 episode of this short form video
and decided to see it.
Yeah, so we were in the back seat
and Brendan Jennings was driving.
That's right, yeah.
Yeah.
And then you, and we basically.
Not basically.
I, you went for, I mean, he was so game and it was great,
but I, you got the receiving end of it.
I did.
Which I salute you for, but I chewed up food
and spit it into his mouth.
He baby birded me.
I baby, and we guess, as we were calling, we were baby it into his mouth. He baby birded me. And we guess as we're calling we were baby birding. Yeah he baby birded me
fully and then... We bought it very much on that day. Yeah the screen grab I have
that I guess was from the website is just me right after that moment and all
of its falling out of my mouth. It's disgusting. I'll send it to y'all.
It's funny that for the thumbnail they they decided let's not show the actual funny
image of food falling out of mouth.
Let's show the moment after that's just gross.
Horrible.
That's you just like, I'm trying to be in the scene
and be funny and be present,
and there's this man like me who I'm just waving at you.
His food is chewed up in my mouth.
That sucks.
But that wasn't baked into the scene, right?
You guys are just improvising?
We just went for it.
And it may have been like a suggestion from them
or like the director is not my favorite member.
I was gonna say, in the moment, in an improvised thing,
do you have the idea to chew up food
and spit it into your mouth without any prior discussion?
I don't know how it came about.
Was Dan Schneider off camera?
Yeah, do it.
Let me tell you, the producers went 90.
They fell over laughing.
Yes, we should explain.
For anyone who doesn't remember the Verizon Go 90 app,
the name of it was because you're normally.
I don't think you have to explain.
I think everyone remembers.
Everyone gets it.
OK, I won't bother.
Go ahead.
Maybe for one or two people.
OK, for one or two people, maybe some young people out there,
you're normally looking at your phone like this,
I'm holding it vertically,
and then if you were going to go 90
and check out all the exclusive content on this amazing app,
you would turn your phone horizontally.
90 degrees.
So I've got 90 degrees.
That's how you go 90.
That's how you go 90.
Yeah.
So if you'd like to go 90, log on to Verizon Go 90, download the new app, check out exclusive
content.
Can we get Go 90?
Can we get gon90.com?
Can we spot on the URL?
I bet you.
We should try to make over $90.
But literally every, there were so many shows on that thing that went away.
Oh yeah.
That was like that Tween Fest show that-
Oh, right.
Tween Fest.
That was really funny.
Brad Evans.
Brad Evans. They oversteer. Literally every there were so many shows on that. Yeah, it went away. That was like that tween fest show that
Oh, right. That was really funny.
I was in that for a minute. Did you guys do it?
I edited it. Oh shit. Wow.
I edited four of the episodes. Very funny. Yeah, that was a great show.
And now I think it just exists on. It's all gone. It's just gone.
I think they might have gotten the rights to that back and it might be on YouTube now
But they burned the building down. Also, funnier die produced it and then funnier dies
Who knows?
They left town with every fucking with all the money they made from fucking starburst fucking branded spots
It's a people funny. Die is now two guys in a private plane with sacks with dollar signs
There were no PAs left to fuel them up.
I think that we should, like Thanos, we should get CISO and Go90.
CISO.com, Go90.com.
I think we should get these.
Go90.com's not available at Chequers.
Damn.
Go90.ai was the recommendation.
What about Gone 90? Gone 90.ai was the recommendation. Yeah.
What about Gone 90?
Gone 90?
Wow.
That's pretty good.
Or Going 90, I don't know.
Get all variations of Go.
Let's stop buying URLs as bits.
I think we probably stop using our budget for that,
but it's a funny idea.
It was an honor for you to spit food in there.
It was, we very much bonded that day.
Also, I think, I'm sure you guys can relate to this,
but that thing of having like a nine page audition
for a Go 90 show, which is like, I'm still mad at this town
for the rest of my life for that.
To like nervously be studying nine pages for a Go 90 show.
Yes, yeah.
Do you know how infuriating that is to even think about?
Well, do you know how mad I am right now?
I know, Mitch, I know how mad you are.
I'm wearing a Hulk shirt.
I'm about to, I'm fucking pissed off.
Yeah.
Now they're trying to get rid of Schneider?
It's not fair.
It's not fair.
It's an infuriating degrading into. First that, then this, then Go Night.
Now Schneider, what's next?
What else are they going to take from us?
No, it's continually more work for less money and then also more work even for the prospect of less money.
Whatever, it's a rotten industry. That's why we podcast.
Nine pages for a fucking Go Night. I swear to God. Possibly it's even longer than that.
We gotta be able to buy all that stuff back for like go night. I swear to God, possibly it's even longer than that. We gotta be able to buy all that stuff back
for like 10 bucks.
Like where is, what is, where is it?
I think the bad news is I think a lot of that stuff
is deleted.
I think it's either gone.
Yeah, the data doesn't exist anymore.
I think a lot of it.
Like, hard drives are just.
I'm sure, there's a hard drive.
There's a hubel cap to have that show somewhere,
I'm sure. You would think so.
But who knows?
And it's also like, all this shit is so,
the rights to something could
be bought by some private equity firm or whatever,
or some Saudi holding corporation,
and it's just there for no reason.
And so like that's why.
Well, we saw this with Quibi.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, yeah.
When Quibi went under and Roke, who said, you know what?
We'll take all that content.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
It keeps happening, folks.
It keeps, yeah.
It's now in a different storage department somewhere.
Some other lonely guy in a vault has access
to the one hard drive it's on.
I mean, that's the other thing, too,
is that someone could just spill soda on the hard drive
that the birthday boys is on, and our sketch show
is gone forever, probably.
But it was nice to do while it happened.
It was good.
You at least have DVDs, right?
Or was that just one season?
Do you own a copy of the DVDs?
I do own copies of DVDs, luckily, but people are like, where can we get the DVDs? I think they stopped making them.
Yeah.
Bummer. They should do a box set.
Yeah, I'll send it to you.
In the end, the sun's gonna end up getting real big and destroy Earth in a billion years, so it's all gonna go away, you know what?
That's a good point.
So that means right now doesn't matter.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah, so right now doesn't matter.
Nothing matters.
Everybody, this will be gone one day too.
Yeah.
No, we are very, we're gonna keep,
we actually got a sunproof box.
Yeah.
You get the masters.
Just floating in space a billion years from now.
You and Prince, Prince gets the Masters of his song,
y'all get the Masters for this podcast.
Floating in space, a very old you song in there,
watching over it.
I wanna talk about Popeyes, but I do wanna touch
on a subject we were talking about
while we were waiting for Mitch to arrive.
Both of you have played Baldur's Gate 3.
Oh yeah.
Yes.
My favorite game. Happy I arrived later you have played Baldur's Gate 3. Oh yeah. Yes.
My favorite game.
Oh my God.
Happy I arrived later than the fucking Baldur's Gate talk.
Yeah.
You know how many times I've-
If you need to go to the bathroom,
you can do that now.
I mean, honestly, I might go turn the AC down
a little bit more.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mitch has stood up.
Yeah.
Yeah. Which, are you gonna sit back down and you stand out of frame. No, I'll be here. Do your thing.
This is gonna need some tidying up.
I'm gonna try this guy.
Do you do it this way?
Yeah, I set it up like that.
Mitch is holding up one of the lumbar back rests that Emma got for us.
So yeah, I kind of like it like that, like triangular, you know, with the, with the,
with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the, with the,. Mitch is holding up one of the lumbar back rests that Emma got for us.
So yeah, I kind of like it like that, like triangular,
you know, with that part pointing up.
That's the way you're supposed to do it, right?
That's the way you're supposed to do it, yeah.
For somebody who's doing a side quest,
I can't believe that you don't like that game.
Yeah.
Would you like one?
I'm good without it.
I mean, for now.
We'll see in two hours how I feel.
I don't know. Okay, so Mackie, you now, we'll see in two hours how I feel.
Okay, so Mackie, you played through it a couple of times,
or you're on your second playthrough.
I'm almost done with my second playthrough.
So what was the first character you finished it with,
and what are you playing now?
I was originally, I was a half-orc fighter.
Fun. Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
And that was really fun, really just like battle heavy, you know?
Just like slicing people up.
But then my second play through.
Intimidation and dialogue, a lot of fun.
It's very fun.
Then the second play through I'm doing a bard.
Love a bard.
A half elf bard.
I did a half elf bard for my half wood elf
for my first play through.
College of Lore, what college are you doing?
Gosh, why can't I remember now?
College of Swords? More of a brawler?
No, no, no. Yeah, College of Lore.
Yeah, yeah.
Bard's a lot of fun.
Yeah, it's super fun. It's crazy how it's a completely different game,
depending on what kind of character you're playing.
For sure. There's so much unique dialogue.
Yeah, and I also, my first playthrough, I killed people that I didn't know were NPCs. Yes, right. I killed Karlaak, that character, my first playthrough I killed people that I didn't know like we're we're NPCs that are like companion
I killed car lack that character my first time cuz I just like believed the guys up in the house
Yeah, we're like, there's a devil out there and I was like, well, I'm gonna kill the devil
Well, I did and I killed the character who apparently you love this don't you?
I truly car lack is this like sort of demon character.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell him, tell him.
Tell him, give him context.
No, but I like killed a bunch of characters that I couldn't.
We all know who Karlak is.
It's like Go 90, we get it.
Good.
How dare you compare Karlak to Go 90?
Oh, all right.
Yeah, but yeah, it was just my first playthrough
I killed so many characters that I didn't mean to kill.
I got lucky and had an Oathbreaker Paladin so I couldn't kill anyone. So then I made friends with everyone.
Wait, not an Oathbreaker Paladin? You're not the opposite?
The opposite. I can't break those.
Well that's the whole thing with the Paladin.
I'm new to it.
Yeah, he's new to it.
I'm new to the world.
But he's had a good...
I've been breaking rules so I had to be everybody's friend so I got to it. Yeah, he's new to it. I'm new to the world. But he's had a good...
I've been breaking rules so I had to be everybody's friend so I get to see everybody's storylines.
So my camp was packed full of people and then it was really fun.
My ending, I don't want to say it, I guess, to ruin it for people, but my ending was wild
because every decision I made, I was like, I'm making what this character would do.
He would sacrifice himself, he would do this, and the end of my game was me just being like,
Oh God, oh God.
Like, I made friends with a dude in Hell,
came up and became my friend.
I rolled like a nat 20 to make whatever that Hell dude was my friend.
Wait, Rafael?
Rafael.
Rafael.
His big, like, brutish guy.
Can I quickly interject here for a second? You're guilty, you're guilty. Can I quickly interject here? Shut the fuck up. The other guy his big like
Shut the fuck
Everyone shut up. I love our guests
Who did you romance?
Shadow heart. Yeah, I did Shadowheart my first playthrough, my second one I got together with Gale.
But I got mad because I romance Shadowheart
and I was like, oh no, let me,
I'm gonna see what happens if I romance someone else.
And then I romance someone else like a mind flayer.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Shadowheart forgave me.
Shadowheart's down in the game.
And then I was like, wait,
I could have been running through folks.
And I was real mad about that.
I was real mad.
I think a Shadowheart is kind of like presented
as like kind of the default slash, you know,
canonical romance option.
She's also like, well,
this character is written to permit the player
to make other choices as well and not be punished by it.
But yeah.
But yeah, while you guys are talking about that,
Paul Walter, Hazard, Gricasson,
every other fat guy movie.
All of it.
Every fat guy role is gone.
Mackie, who did you romance?
I, in my first play through, I,
I can't remember, maybe Gale.
Because Gale's like the easiest character to romance
Yeah, mm-hmm Gail will just be like let's go like you almost Gail
I think I think there's like only like one dialogue option that makes him back off like otherwise. He will just be like yeah
We're I'm down
He's kind of though like he's he's he presents himself as kind of like this sort of like suave guy
But then when you start recording him he gets kind of beta., which I kind of like. Yeah, it was interesting. And then my new playthrough...
You get to pick your penis in this game.
You'd like that?
Do they have small ones?
Um...
You can download them all for you.
Yeah.
I checked out after...
Look, I found the most beautiful woman in video games.
It's Gruntilda after you lose in Banjo-Kazooie.
Right, yes. She turns into human form.
Or no, she just turns into, like,'s Gruntilda after you lose in Banjo-Kazooie, as you know. Right, yes, she turns into human form.
Or no, she just turns into like, sexy Gruntilda.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right, that's what I'm thinking.
I mean, sexy, wait, what are you thinking of?
I was thinking of Shrek.
What horny thing were you thinking of?
I was thinking of Shrek.
Oh.
Oh.
She turns into Shrek form in Shrek.
No, Shrek turns, Shrek turns human.
You were thinking of sexy Shrek?
Yeah, I was like, right, because Gruntilda turns from green to human,
and I was like, no, that's what Shrek does.
Gruntilda just turns into a sexier version of herself.
Wait, Shrek turns human?
In Shrek 2.
In Shrek 2.
Really?
Yeah, he's handsome.
He looks like you, big guy.
Aw, come on.
He does.
Wait, which version? I guess we're in a lot of green right now.
Handsome Shrek looks like me.
Yeah, I think so.
You're too kind.
I don't remember the Shrek movies at all.
I don't either, I guess.
Piss and Boots turns into a horse, I think, right?
Isn't that what happens? In Shrek 2, the donkey turns into a horse. The donkey turns into a horse, I think, right? Isn't that what happens? What's... I...
In Shrek 2?
The donkey turns into a horse.
The donkey turns into a steed.
That's right. That's what it is.
Is the end of Shrek 2 just, like, all of the characters morphing?
I don't remember.
There's a lot of morphing going on.
They do, but then I think they turn back,
because they have to accept who they really are as the whole thing.
I'm just like, I could have this wish fulfillment,
but ultimately I have to embrace myself.
Maybe I've never seen Shrek 2 actually,
now that I think about it.
It's fine.
Do you think Fiona made the right choice
by becoming a Shrek?
I feel like it's the best.
Do you feel like, like, uh...
I think she made the right choice.
You think so?
I think so, yeah.
I mean, if I had a choice,
like you could be less monstrous,
you could be like, you know, like,
you could be a guy who works at Abercrombie and Fish.
I'd be like, all right, yeah, give me the, yeah, I'll take that thing.
That seems nice, right?
You'd be a fundamentally different guy is the thing.
That's like, you'd become that guy,
and then you'd live as that guy,
and your personality would start to change,
your circle of friends would start to change,
you'd get distance from who you really were.
You're not gonna be hanging out with...
This all sounds great.
You're not gonna be hanging out with
Chankton and Micus and Wu-Tang anymore.
This still sounds great.
You're gonna be hanging out with guys named like Chad
and Todd and Braylon.
You're gonna be hanging out with hunk.
They sound cool as hell.
You're not gonna be in here. They're hunks?
You're not gonna be in here podcasting.
You're gonna be out there in the Hedgum offices working.
Oh, that sucks, actually.
That does suck.
You don't wanna be like COO of Hedgum.
Sounds like this guy likes character creation.
Yeah.
We got a game for you, buddy.
Mitch, you would love Baldur's Gate,
but like with Elden Ring,
it's probably good that you don't play it
because I know how obsessive you get with games.
Yeah.
And you would spend 300 hours in this thing,
doing every side quest.
I put 180 hours in
and he was looking for something that I had found
and I was like, share your screen.
And he shared it.
And his map had these dark splotches in it
and I could not stand that. Yeah, because I hadn could not stand that. I looked in every corner of everything,
and he was like, I'm almost done,
and there was just patches of darkness.
You're exaggerating, but...
There was big patches of darkness,
and it was Act Three, and there's so much stuff.
There's so much in Act Three.
How many hours did you put into that bad boy?
Buck 80, I did.
Yeah, my first playthrough was like 130,
but I didn't do every side quest,
and by the time I'd finished my second playthrough,
I was near 400.
Yeah, I'm like over three right now with both playthroughs.
Oh, it's so fun.
I didn't even play the new... The Breath of the Wild...
Wait, the Tears of the Kingdom was like too daunting for me.
Is that the building one?
Yeah, it's the new one.
Yeah, I couldn't do...
Once the building happened, I was like,
this is too much things.
Emma, you put a bunch of time into Breath of the Wild.
Did you bounce off of Tears of the Kingdom
or are you still playing?
Yeah, no, I finished Breath of the Wild
and I'm probably like 100 hours into Tears of the Kingdom
at this point.
I like it, but I agree the building is annoying at times.
I don't wanna spend 20 minutes building some weird crap
so that it can like die on me in two minutes.
But the ability to like, I forget what it's called,
I haven't played in a few weeks.
The hand thing that like lets you remember your building recipes or whatever.
That's pretty fun. That was pretty helpful.
Yeah. Yeah. I get frustrated when games have a mechanic that they put in it
that people can get really, really good at.
Yeah, because everybody's always going to get so much better than me.
And so when I would see like Tic Tocs of people who built like moving cities,
I'm just like, well, fucking I don't even, well I don't wanna play the game now.
I can't do the stuff that you do.
I watch videos that people make
to like fly around in the sky online
and I'm like, I can't even begin to build this
and I'm never gonna get there
and it can be a little discouraging.
Yeah, and so I'm just like, well I don't even fucking
play this shit.
I play video games because I'm not creative.
I got two boards and made a long board.
Yeah, no, it's the same sort of thing.
I don't wanna have, I don't wanna like,
there's elements I wanna use in my imagination,
but other times I just wanna like kinda like do what the, follow what the game allows me to do. Minimalism, that's elements I want to use my imagination, but other times I just want to like kind of like
Do what the follow with the game is allows me to do minimalism. That's my art style wise, you know this
I'm not good. I like I'm not I would not be very good of crafting together. I'm not good with Legos
I just do I want to be I don't think I'd be good at it
I like some of that stuff
But I think it just depends on what the overall game is doing and And like, yeah, a game like Tears of the Kingdom,
I was just like less into it.
Even though I was impressed by it.
Honestly, it did a good job of like, it's a big game,
but you never felt like lost.
Yes, right.
Like it was very like everything felt,
cause I don't like, I can't do like an Elden Ring
or a big open world thing where it just feels like
I'm just like walking around.
Oh yeah, Elden Ring would break your brain
cause they don't tell you anything.
Yes, yeah.
I don't like that.
I don't like that at all.
You'd have no idea. You'd finish the game and move it.
Autoscape was just enough of like,
this is what you need to be doing.
And the boards were small.
Like, the maps were just small enough to where I was like,
I'm fine with this.
If we were focus testing this podcast,
their knob would be all the way to the left.
And they would be breaking it off.
I was talking about fucking Elden Ring again
for the fucking 100th time.
I've never played the game. People don't love it.
They do love it.
We have a mainstream audience. They like, uh, Survivor.
And they like, uh, that's, there's some people who listen to the podcast.
You want to talk about Survivor?
No.
LAUGHS
I think, I think the thing is, is that these games are mainstream,
is the thing.
I think a mainstream audience does know
what we're talking about.
Way more mainstream than you ever would have expected
a few years ago.
Yeah.
All right, let's talk about Popeye.
How about that?
It's fair, it's fair.
I just don't know what the fuck everyone's talking about.
Doesn't make sense to me.
He's talking about it one billion times.
I love it.
I know you do. I knew you love it. It's maybe the only thing you like, I think.
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You know, there is something else I like.
What's that?
Popeyes.
Wow.
Nice.
Oh, proves you wrong so fast.
Popeyes this week's chain.
Popeyes Wings is what we're focused on today.
Then we'll talk about other aspects of the menu.
Founded in 1972 in New Orleans by Al Copeland,
who was an interesting character.
Also, how was he interesting?
Well, so for, he was just like an eccentric guy
who was kind of a charlatan,
in the same sort of way Colonel Sanders was,
but like a little bit like maybe less menacing.
He did things like he didn't,
he called his company Popeye's
so he could use like the Popeye's license,
but without permission, you know?
So it was like kind of a wink wink sort of thing of like,
my company just happens to be affiliated with Popeye,
this famous cartoon character, and also at the same time,
this famous movie character, Popeye Doyle,
played by Gene Hackman.
So like, you know, like he kind of just had this association
but it wasn't officially licensed.
He got into a feud late in life with Anne Rice. They're both like big New Orleans celebrities, and they just like hated each other. That's funny. I think he like raced like fan boats too. He was
just like a, like a, one of those weird like rich guys. Anyway, they are no longer owned by Al Copeland,
who I believe has passed away. They're owned by Restaurant Brands International, which also owns
Burger King, Firehouse Subs,
and Tim Hortons.
Again, one of these ominous holding corporations
that just controls all of society.
We gotta go 90s.
Exactly, yeah.
See-so.
Now we've reviewed Popeyes a few times.
The last time, Mitch, do you remember who our guest was?
It was in January, 2021.
This was a pandemic record. This was a Pandemic Record.
This was someone who's been on the podcast one time.
One time guest, Popeyes.
Yes.
Pandemic Record.
Yes.
I'm gonna say, oh, was it for Tomorrow War?
No, it was not for Tomorrow War.
Everyone's saying always, somebody feed this guy.
Phil Rosenthal came on the podcast. Oh, it was Rosenthal.
One of our favorites.
Very cool.
Rosenthal's due for a return.
He is also the reason this is not in the Platinum Plate
Club.
You and I both gave it five forks.
Phil would not go above three and a half forks.
You wouldn't go into the Golden Plate Club?
No, he wouldn't go into the Golden Plate Club, yeah.
I thought you were going to say, I honestly
was like worried that it was going gonna be someone more canceled or something.
I was truly nervous for a minute.
It's Dan Snyder.
Yeah, it was Snyder.
We have another thing we need to discuss
before we get into Popeyes.
Casey, our engineer, hates Popeyes. Lowe's, our into Popeyes. Casey, our engineer, hates Popeyes.
Lowe's our beloved Popeyes.
Casey, what's going on over there
behind the producers desk?
Really?
What I said in the chat when Amelia asked
if I wanted Popeyes, I said I've tried it three times.
Yeah.
Every single time it was the worst chicken I've ever had.
The worst chicken you've ever had.
It was rubbery, it was flavorless,
it was like not crispy,
it like tasted like it was cooked days ago.
Wow.
And I tried it three different times,
three different locations.
All in LA?
All in LA, that's the thing.
When was this?
Over the span of like six years, I'd say.
And you've tried different locations
and the same thing repeated.
Where is the, you're from Florida,
so you're also from the South, but Popeyes, I guess,
doesn't have much penetration near where you lived.
Yeah, it was a Chick-fil-A.
It was a Chick-fil-A, you're a Chick-fil-A guy.
I do like Chick-fil-A.
Yeah, okay.
He picks weird words sometimes.
What are you talking about?
Popeyes doesn't have any penetration where you are,
this is weird sounding.
Market penetration.
Market penetration.
It's a reasonable thing to say.
All right, fine.
We're talking business here.
I'm with you on that one.
Thank you, yeah.
You think I was saying like P and V?
Yeah.
I'm not doing that.
I'm talking about olive oil,
I was gonna tell you to cut the crap.
Well you thought I was talking about olive oil?
I'm saying Popeye.
Like Popeye's penetrating olive oil? I'm saying like Popeyes penetrating all
I didn't get much penetration in the show
Look blue is watching through the slats of a closet door
That's me
Paul Walter Hauser got it
Blue dough can't believe we got cocked a blue dough. He'll be still
He got wimpy to they're doing they're doing a clumps thing
That'll be good though. It will be I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna see it. It'll be really good. Yeah
No more airing of Hollywood grievances, okay? We're not doing that here.
I think that you said a weird word, but I get it.
Popeyes wasn't everywhere. It was on the route for me,
going to New Hampshire was like the only place
I would even see Popeyes.
And it was because I didn't, at least in Quincy or nearby,
I didn't really have it, right?
But, Emma, you're from New Hampshire
I'm like trying to figure out where you the Popeyes is. Oh, I don't know. I was on route one. I have no idea
Maybe didn't have it. There's one. It's either a Popeyes. It might be a Popeyes
It's in the rest stop in the Kenny bunk rest stop that's in Maine though. Oh, it's in Maine
Yeah, but it's like in a rest stop. You know what the only one that that is probably the exact one that I'm thinking Yeah, it's at like in a rest stop. You know what? That's the only one that we've ever had access to. That is probably the exact one that I'm thinking of.
Yeah, it's like the Kenny Boog rest stop.
I think the one I was thinking of
that I thought was a Popeyes was a KFC by me.
Got it, okay.
I don't think there was a Popeyes now,
but I can't even tell anymore.
You know what?
I agree with him, the penetration wasn't good.
Yeah.
There was bad penetration.
Real bad penetration.
It's not everywhere.
Uh, and, but, but, you know, I love Popeyes.
I have a lot of affection for it.
The wings were new to me.
I'd not had the wings prior to today.
Uh, let's start with the wings cause that's the headline.
So there were six flavors here.
Uh, we, Dave, we were talking about this before we started.
I'm a bit of a heat seeker.
I love spicy foods.
They have a, an up to five gauge,
up to five flames gauge for these sauces,
but the hottest one only goes to four.
So it's like, they're not using their full scale.
And the one called ghost pepper is a three.
Yes, yeah, which is absurd.
Which is absurd.
The flavors are ghost pepper, honey barbecue,
honey lemon pepper, roasted garlic parmesan,
signature hot and sweet and spicy.
Now one of these we did not get
because one of the six orders of six wings we got
was totally unsauced.
They were just plain wings.
Which one did we get?
I believe we didn't get the ghost pepper.
Am I wrong?
Well, there was one spicy one,
but I don't know which of the spices it was.
To me, the spicy one- No stickers on the box,
which is absurd to not label which one is which.
To me, the signature, though, the spicy one we had
tasted like just a default hot sauce.
Yeah.
It tastes like a ghost pepper sauce,
but it could have been ghost pepper.
A little more buttery than what I would imagine from a-
And it was pretty hot, and that's the hottest one,
and it was pretty hot. That was the hottest one, 405.
Right. Oh.
Check it out.
Oh.
What were you doing?
It's sexy for Until, though.
Can I see?
Oh, you're showing it on your phone?
Show the camera.
Yeah, she looks good.
Send it to me, I'll put it in the video.
All right, I'll send it to you.
She looks good.
But I didn't clock the hot.
Yeah.
Not a runny nose in sight.
No, you did.
There was separate dipping sauces,
and I think one of the little dipping sauces
was the spiciest one.
Yeah.
But I didn't touch,
I didn't get a taste of the super spicy.
So these come in little trays, little plastic trays to go,
and they have basically like a reservoir of sauce
at the bottom, and the wings are just resting
on top of them, and you're either supposed to swirl
the whole box up to shake up the sauce, I guess,
or just kind of dredge them as you're eating.
But it's not sauced on top.
No, they should be full sauced.
Yeah.
They should be full dipping sauce. Based. They should be full dipped in sauce.
Based on what they give you, I think the intention
is that you're supposed to shake it up.
Or when they send it through delivery,
they just assume that it's going to get shaken up.
Sure, that makes sense.
They just kind of just like, they tell the Postmates guy,
be reckless.
They're banking on bumpy roads.
They're banking on it falling out of the truck or something.
Mitch is up to something.
What are you doing?
I was just texting, I texted him with a, I texted her the grunty pics and I said, she
looks good.
I responded, I said, quite a glow up.
It is, the glow up.
Oh, we got a side by side.
The side by side.
Oh yeah.
The grunty glow up.
The grunty glow up.
That is a huge difference.
That's a huge difference.
Yeah, it's a huge difference. It's a sort of thing of like you look at that
when you're like 14 and like you get a boner,
and then like later on you're an adult and you're like,
oh wait, there was just like some like horny,
like 35-year-old artist who did that.
It was like, this is a pretty girl, you know?
Yeah.
Chest bigger.
Yeah, in 3D Studio Max.
And like it got into, it became a game asset.
And you look at a 35 and you get a boner again.
Yeah, exactly. OK, all right, all right. We're all hard right now. That one's hard. Studio Max and like it got into became a game asset and you look at a 35 and you get a boner again
Yeah, exactly
We're all hard right now
It's hard
Look to our listeners out there. Yeah, oftentimes. We're not hard. It's way less than we are hard
Look at it looking at going tilde. I went 90 if you want
It does kind of make sense. I went 45.
I went about a 45.
So you were straight up and you went down?
You start up, you default up.
It's a weird quirk of my anatomy.
I really like these wings.
I think the texture is great.
I normally like an unbreaded wing
because they just, the breading can get in the way.
And especially if you're taking down
an order of 12 or whatever, it's just a lot of food.
But I think these are so fucking good.
I think Popeyes, the fry of their chicken is so consistent.
It's one of the things they do well.
One of the reasons there's several notches above KFC.
But like this execution, it's just,
it's exactly what I want in a chicken wing.
And as fast food wings go,
I think this is like top flight stuff.
It's cool cause you know that they know how to cook chicken.
Right.
So that's a good base.
It's not like they were a pizza place and they're like,
I guess we should do wings too.
Yeah.
And now like Domino's,
you get like the sloppiest, slimmiest wings of all time.
Weiss kind of still likes them. We've had some success with Domino's wings, but it's like, it's, you get like the sloppiest, slimiest wings of all time.
Wags kinda still likes them.
We've had some success with Domino's wings,
but it's like, it's hit or miss.
Oh yeah.
Last time we got them, it was, it was,
it felt like it was mostly skin.
Yeah.
Oh, God damn it.
Just sloppy skin.
It's so horrifying.
Yeah, it wasn't very good.
But these, yeah, I had a similar feeling with these
where I'm just, the crispiness,
the base level crispy is it withstands the sauce. Yes, which is really like that's ultimately
Well, yes, I've always said this that crunch is fun. You didn't say
I said crunch isn't fun
So the straight up it was just like good wing, cooked, good meat.
Domino's wings, remember in Robocop,
when the guy gets the acid, like the acid falls on him?
Yeah, at the end.
And then he gets hit by the car?
I feel like that's like the consistency of Domino's wings.
Is that they're like very like...
Like you're eating that guy? Basically, they're like very like... Like you're eating that guy?
Basically, they're like very, they're very loosely on the bone.
Right.
Maybe falling, like molecularly falling apart.
Like the chemical makeup of them is disintegrating.
Yeah, something, something.
They're becoming some other type of matter.
Yeah, they're not solid anymore.
Yeah, there's something, there is something, and I am with you guys.
I don't know how you like them.
I actually like their chicken nuggets more.
Interesting, like their boneless wings?
Their boneless wings, just because I feel like
they're a little bit more crunchy.
But yeah, the wings there are bad.
And I thought that that's what I was in for when I saw it.
I saw these tiny little wings.
I was excited, I told you last night
I had a 400 calorie wings. I was excited. I told you last night I had like a 400 calorie diet dinner
that sucked shit.
I was so mad.
And then I made up the order last night
because I was just hungry.
And I sent it to you at like 11 PM.
I was like, what do you think of this?
And you were like, it's fine.
I don't know what you're talking about.
But I was so excited to eat Popeyes.
And then seeing it, I was like, these look like shit when I walked in here.
Well, and we should also note that the food landed
earlier than expected.
Right, landed later.
And you landed, well you landed later as expected.
And so they had been sitting for probably 40 minutes
by the time you were eating.
We came out at 11.30?
We were out, we were eating already, yeah.
Closer to 11.30.
Sus got there 10 minutes before I did,
I mean I was 10 minutes late, that is the truth. I'm sorry, I'm in there already, yeah. Closer to 11.30. Sus got there 10 minutes before I did. I mean, I was 10 minutes late.
That is the truth.
I'm sorry, I'm leaving town tomorrow.
I'm trying to get better.
I was the latest, don't worry.
I beat you today.
Thank you, Emma.
Thank you.
Take some heat off of me for a second.
You still held them well.
They're still crunchy.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
They were still crunchy.
Is it weird that Emma was just a little bit later than me
and I ended up screaming at her in the hallway?
He tried to fire me. I told him he can't do that.
She pulled it back on me.
I got scared.
They were still, when I got in here,
they were still crunchy.
Honestly, they tasted good.
They were good.
I think the wings are awesome.
They're little tiny guys.
That is the truth.
They're small wings.
They're not the biggest wing.
The, among the sauces, I think that the roasted garlic
Parmesan was the one that we were all kind of like, mm.
Is that the creamy one that's too creamy?
Yeah, it's the creamy one.
It was an immediate no for me.
Yeah, I was not as into that one.
The sweet and spicy was, one of the honey barbecue
or sweet and spicy was a little too sweet for me.
I don't know which one it was.
This is another thing with them is that eating them all,
I was like, these kind of all blended together. If we had a sixth one, I don't know which one it was. This is another thing with them is that eating them all, I was like, these kind of all blended together.
If we had a sixth one, I don't know if it would have
mattered as much, but the spiciest one
was the best one to me.
The hot was great.
That was my favorite.
Also the honey lemon pepper, I thought was great.
That was really good.
It was really yummy.
I was saying, I ate Popeye's wings the last two days also,
just because I got excited.
Yes. And I ate, last night I got the honey lemon peppers
and I ate one and I was like, I don't know if I like this,
but then by the time I finished the six count wings
that I had gotten, I was like, no, this is,
this is one of the better flavors I've ever had for a wing.
Yeah, it's heaven.
It's really special.
I loved it.
I always like a blend of like, if I'm like at Buffalo Wild Wings or something, I'll get like for a wing. Yeah, it's heaven. It's really special. I always like a blend of like,
if I'm like at Buffalo Wild Wings or something,
I'll get like the hot barbecue.
That's really fun.
I like the spicy and the like...
Spicy and the sweet.
Yeah, spicy and the sweet mix.
I thought that this place is, we just did KFC
that had like a honey barbecue-ish right sauce.
Yeah, we recorded that episode pretty recently,
but that episode will have come out a lot earlier
than this episode. It came out a lot earlier than today
Yeah, for all you know
It came out today as of this recording
College time episode came out today to give it a listen there was a lot that there's true
It's a big it's a big doughboy's day Seth Morris and Aaron Whitehead's podcast. It was a lot of fun to do
That's true.
It's a big doughboy's day.
Seth Morris and Aaron Whitehead's podcast.
It was a lot of fun to do.
Um, uh, as was your guys' podcast.
It's a blast.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah.
I haven't done yet, but I will have done by the time
this episode's out.
By the time this comes out, you will have it.
Wait, how about this?
Dude, you were so fucking funny on it.
Yeah.
You guys are really funny guests on our show.
Wow.
He's only attached right now.
That's not true.
I hope fucking Walter Hauser snatches it from you. By the way, yeah, just get a text.
Walter Hauser's going to actually be on the show.
We'll bump you.
A promise of a future date.
Yeah, yeah, you get in there.
I got you guys.
Their honey barbecue, the honey barbecue from Popeyes,
is what I was gonna say, was tasty.
Yeah, I like their barbecue sauce.
I think so often barbecue is,
I'm like a skeptic on barbecue sauce,
and this one I was like, this is tasty at least.
I think the thing with barbecue sauce,
any sort of chain
is nobody's taken a big swing with a barbecue sauce.
They all kind of taste the same,
especially if it's a honey barbecue,
feels like you're hitting like one note
and everybody's playing the same note.
It's like, if you're getting honey barbecue,
it's gonna taste the same as it did
at every other restaurant.
That's why I like that honey lemon pepper so much is because it's not like you
can't get that at Wingstop.
You don't put honey in there.
So the honey, the layer of honey is interesting to me.
Yeah, I agree. It's, it's, it's good.
I actually, there was no flavor that I really was that I balked at.
I, I funny because it's chicken.
Mitch, that is funny.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Balked.
B-A-L-K-E-D.
And balked, B-O-C-K.
The sound a chicken makes.
Yeah, it's true.
Oh, it's C-O-C-K.
Bok.
Bok.
There was a W in there.
Yeah.
Bok meow, bok meow.
This is the Cadbury commercial now.
Yeah, it's spelled with a W.
That's like the longest running commercial I feel like I've ever made.
Yeah, you see one of those old commercials and it's just like those shot in standard
deaf is like, man, this is still in the air.
That one and then he does exist.
Yeah, the M&M's commercial.
Where Santa comes in and they're like, he does, he's like, they do exist.
Mitch, you're cleaning up on residuals with that one, right?
Yes, I shot that 1986 M&M's commercial.
That had to be a little later than that, huh? Because it's the CGI M&M.
So what is it, 1990?
Yeah, mid-90s I guess.
That, the fuck-mow, the auditions for the, you know what I'm saying the oh yeah the Cadbury bunny auditions that one is like an 80s a true 80s commercial
I love that they bring it back every year uh but uh I I there was no sauce flavor that I thought
was bad truly none of like the wings didn't look good they had everything working as they were tiny
they didn't look good but it's just that sort of thing of something you're saying they know how to make chicken
Yeah, sometimes you would look at it
And you didn't know if it was like the what are the two types of wings that like two bone in the single bone
Yeah, yeah, you couldn't tell the difference between them sometimes. Yeah, you're like alright. He's like any like well alright
Yep, there's two in there. I correct my tooth. I that happened to me
I thought I ate a wing thinking it was a nugget.
It was the unsauced wing.
Yeah.
I hurt my tooth because it was, I mean,
this is another thing.
I don't, if you were like, I'm going
to get a six piece of these wings, get some more food
because they're small.
Six pieces is not enough.
You need at least a 12 piece for a meal.
Yeah.
For one, for a standard person.
Yeah, a human. For a human. A human, for a standard person. For a human, yeah.
For a human.
A human needs a human.
But you're gonna be getting some sides, right?
What, I'm getting Popeyes and I'm getting sides?
Although, Mackie, you were saying you just get the chicken.
I just, well, for the purposes of this,
I wanted to sort of give myself the clearest picture
of what the wings were all about.
Yeah, clearest.
I didn't wanna give my, I didn't wanna like wait my thoughts
because I love a mashed potato
Sure, if I'd eaten those mashed potatoes, I would have it would have it would have clouded my judgment a little bit Guess what? We got some leftover. You can heat them up to after this
You heat it up a heated up mashed potato from like a like a KFC or Popeyes
It's actually pretty good as one of the few
Fast-food leftovers someone was giving me shit recently for saying you can't heat up any
food leftovers. Someone was giving me shit recently for saying you can't heat up any
fast food leftovers. You're just done with them when you're done. And I think that that
right there is an example that you can. Was this a listener?
No, it was a friend. Yeah, who doesn't want to be associated with the podcast.
A whole segment that was the leftovers. It was called the leftovers. But it was, I think we just ate it straight out of the fridge.
Sometimes we maybe heated it up.
We could have bringing that back.
Yeah, it's a good segment.
I mean, it was torture too, because it sucked a lot of the time.
But my thing is Del Taco.
I think you can reheat like a bean and cheese burrito.
Sure.
If you like mac and cheese or mashed potatoes,
I don't know.
And maybe this is more real food,
but I have the sides.
The sides are great as always.
Popeyes has good sides.
Do you have the right to-
Casey's fucking wrong.
I have the sides that you put in the order, Mitch.
The large red beans and rice,
which is an S-tier fast food side,
one of my favorite sides.
Unfortunately, I can't eat anymore
because I believe there is pork in the base.
And then there is, they also was mashed potatoes and gravy.
How were those sides hitting for you?
I took two spoonfuls of them and they were great.
The mashed potato is still hot,
nice and hot in that container.
Did you have any of, cause Susser showed up,
did you have any of Susser's mac and cheese that he ordered?
No, he didn't offer me any.
And he also texted me, the food's gone.
When he got here 10 minutes before me,
and then texted me, food's gone.
And I was like, this is like a Suss troll,
but also I do believe he could have just eaten.
There is a world where he could have eaten the wings for me.
You know what I mean?
That could have happened. Totally plausible. But no, I didn could have eaten like the wings for me. You know what I mean?
Like that could have happened.
Totally plausible.
But no, I didn't have the mac and cheese,
which I wonder now, have I had Popeye's mac and cheese?
I've had, yeah, it's good.
I had to have had, yeah.
But I think that mashed potatoes
and the red beans and rice are great.
I usually treat mashed potatoes
almost like a dip in sauce with chicken.
I like that.
I do that too, usually.
No, that's a lot of fun.
But we should talk about your dipping a little bit, because you mentioned you're a sauce guy.
Yeah.
So you talked about something that I was like,
on board with it first,
and then you just took it a step too far.
Yeah.
Which is-
That is 80% of Dave's opinions.
Yeah.
Like, actually, he'll start talking about,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and then he'll keep talking,
he'll be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
hang on, hang on. So you talking to you, and be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
hang on, hang on.
So you'll go to Wendy's, you'll get yourself a Frosty,
and like a lot of us do, you'll maybe dip a fry in there,
and then you're like, oh.
I'm already out at this point, I don't need to.
It's fine, if you don't.
I like the savory and sweet mix, I like salty and sweet,
so I'm with you this far.
Then you're like, you put like a spicy chicken nugget in there.
I'm like, okay. But you're talking about taking like a Dave's double. You take a burger and you will dip it in a frosting.
With lettuce on it?
No, no, no. So you take all that off. Take the tomato off.
By the way, it looked like Emma was about to just leave.
No, you got to get clean burger.
Don't get lettuce. That's what the boys on this couch do,
just so you know.
No lettuce, no lettuce anywhere.
You can't get lettuce anywhere or tomato.
Take that shit off.
If you're going to Wendy's,
you're not going there for their lettuce.
Leave the produce at the grocery store, dude.
Thank you, sir.
You're getting meat and cheese and possibly condiments.
Yeah, cause lettuce and tomato in a Frosty does sound gross, but like a plain,
just like hamburger is great.
I was at Wendy's last week and my Wendy's order is $25.
Because I get the double burger and I get large fries,
I get spicy nuggets and a large Frosty
and everything's going in the Frosty.
And when you can't dip the burger in the Frosty,
that's where that spoon comes in.
So you take a bite, you do the spoon,
you mix it up in your mouth.
That is, that's horrifying.
I agree.
That's horrifying.
It's also, just the idea of it is horrifying,
but seeing it happen feels so wrong.
Like sitting in a Wendy's.
Yeah, I would wanna be eating with you.
We were eating, first of all, dining in at a Wendy's.
And we, I don't even remember, it was when we were taking photos for the art. We went to Wendy's
afterwards. We both got crazy meals. I ate mine like a normal human being. And Dave like took a
bite of the burger and then like used the mouth hole that he had created in the burger as a spoon.
Mm-hmm, to scoop.
And scoop a chunk out. Jesus.
And then took a huge bite, frosty on the lips, just like.
Beard, beard, frosty all in the beard.
And then you're looking at him
and he just doesn't register that it's weird at all.
Just how? Wow.
I think I have a permanent cotton mouth or something.
Like I don't juice up enough in my mouth to like,
Are you dehydrated?
To get the flavors.
So like taking a sip of something
is a part of eating to me.
I do it with everything.
Like if I'm eating like, I have a Coke.
You're eating that can of Coke.
Like I'll have a Coke with,
You have to sip it as well.
Specifically with like fat sals with my sandwich, I gotta have a Coke with, You have to sip it as well. Specifically with like, fat sals with my sandwich,
I gotta have a cherry Coke little,
Yes, right.
Snewter to put it all together.
And that goes with everything.
That, I mean, I think that this is disgusting.
I think, I mean, the frosty specifically.
I think Dave Thomas, a very nice man,
if he came back from the dead and heard about this,
he'd be like, fuck you.
Yeah, I agree. I think he'd be upset with it., if he came back from the dead and heard about this, he'd be like, fuck you. I agree.
I think he'd be upset with it.
But if I'm at Carl's Jr.,
I'll do it with like an Oreo shake with a burger.
What kind of burger?
Man.
Just like a Big Carl.
Arguably even grosser.
But no veggies on the Big Carl.
No, no, get that lettuce off.
It's always slimy.
I gotta say, I'm hearing all this.
The no veggies aspect, I might be back in.
Right?
I might give it a try.
Cause it's just salty meat.
It's a freak couch.
I don't know, I might try it.
Freak couch, regular.
Also, can I just point out,
Dave does this thing also
that I think is the funniest thing in the world.
He just said snooter and we all nodded
like we knew what we were talking about.
He's the only person I know who can make up a word
that it exactly sounds like what he means
But you've never heard it before it did doesn't go in the scene from Joe dirt
But you weren't like I don't know what you mean when he says I took me to her you're like
Oh, yeah, we'll sip or if you like snore game meal down, you know
Your brain just like is like no no no yeah that word that word makes sense for what he means like action on a monopoeia
Is that right? Yeah, is that did that make sense sense for what you mean like action onomatopoeia is that right?
Yeah, is that did that make sense? No, I totally got it that did make sense
You got that right?
Words a lot of times that's probably where it is it's a replacement for you can get on this couch with me for that
Words don't penetrate my mouth like...
Like this guy?
Yeah.
Dr. Dictionary, that's what I call him.
Guy loves words.
Linguistics is descriptive, not prescriptive.
You say snore and we get what you mean.
We say snooter and you get what you mean.
Then you're doing a good job.
Exactly.
Your meaning comes across.
You're actually an advanced communicator.
Yeah, thank you.
Okay, so we also had the strawberry biscuit.
Nothing wrong with those biscuits.
It was fun.
It wasn't like the world's best biscuit,
but it was fun.
It was fun there was strawberry in it.
Yeah, it was fun to try.
I ordered all the specialties.
In the strawberry biscuits,
I probably should have gotten us regular biscuits
just as a, you know, what is it called?
The control group.
The control group.
But we've had the regular biscuits.
I like the Popeye's biscuits.. I like these biscuits are pretty good
I think every like if you do fried chicken
You kind of have to have a good biscuit
Otherwise like just get out of the game because I think it's the most important side think it's a different build the strawberry one's a different
Build in the regular biscuit because this felt like more processed than like a fresh biscuit for sure
It felt like I got a store like that. It's pretty good. It's not bad
I liked it. in a store like that. It was pretty good. It was not bad. It wasn't bad.
I liked it.
I liked the desserts.
Do y'all ever work in restaurants?
No.
I worked at Ruby Tuesday and it's like,
oh, people order like-
It's a huge reveal.
We never covered Ruby Tuesday.
Really?
Oh yeah.
All through college I've waited tables at Ruby Tuesday
and then I bus stables at O'Charlie's in high school.
Wow.
Yeah.
But when people are like, ooh, let's get dessert.
And you're like, cool.
And they see the picture,
and then you pull it out of like the freezer,
and it's the shittiest like frozen cake thing
that you like microwave and then bring that out
and it blows everybody's mind.
The biscuit felt like that version of it.
Like they make biscuits,
but these biscuits come from a place.
Bearing the lead here, by the way. Can I also, I have a question. I had someone, I used biscuits come from a place. Bearing the lead here by the way.
Can I also, I have a question.
I had someone, I used to work at a restaurant also,
like a fast casual kind of like small North Carolina chain.
Got it.
What was it called?
It was called Andy's Cheesesteaks and Cheeseburgers.
It's since rebranded as Route 55 or something like that.
Okay.
Yeah, but our manager used to be like,
I used to work at Applebee's, they microwave all the food.
And I was like, I think you're just saying that
to like, for no reason,
cause they don't microwave all the food.
Yeah.
Like Ruby Tuesday, they don't like microwave the food.
No, no, no, no.
Okay, take that, Mike.
Yeah.
They have like a grill and a flat top
and a deep fryer and everything.
They got like a full kitchen.
But there is some stuff that's made from frozen.
And I know Olive Garden is pretty notorious for all the frozen dishes.
The rebranded to Root 55, pretty shitty name.
11 less than 66 I guess is what it is.
Is that an actual root?
I don't even know.
Is it even a root?
I don't even think that's a root.
I don't even think that's a freaking root. I'm out. You think that's a root? Yeah, I don't think that's a freaking root.
Yeah.
I'm just adjusting, I'm not getting up.
Okay.
You're walking out on that too.
Okay, Usong has replied.
Wow.
I texted him,
you still eating Chipotle these days?
He replied, does the sun still rise in the East?
That's what I'm talking about.
Wow.
I asked, do you think it's fallen off
and what's your standard order?
You song, honestly, I don't get it as much anymore.
So maybe it has a little bit.
Standard order bowl slash burrito with chicken,
pinto beans, white rice, fajita veggies, mild salsa,
guac if I'm being bad.
And then a devil emoji.
Wish I could get cheese,
but try to play it safe with lactose intolerance.
Glock is being bad.
I like it.
Is Glock being bad though?
It's just, it's all fat.
It's fat.
It's all fat.
It's all fat.
He's also having fun.
Healthy fat.
I would cut, that's a vegetable to me.
Well, yeah.
Oh yeah.
So that's healthy.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Okay.
The cheese and sour cream to me feel more bad.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, for sure. But no, but that's the thing,
he's not getting those anyway,
so this is his version of that.
How can he not get the sour cream?
That also costs extra, right?
So it's a little bad for him.
Emma, that's it, you're right.
No, it's money bad.
Didn't consider the economic side.
I feel like that's more what Yusong means by being bad.
You're absolutely right, it is.
Yusong also weighs like one eighth of what I weigh,
so I don't know what.
I need the sour cream from Chipotle.
I think it's like the most delicious sour cream in all of fast food you're typing to, you, Song?
Yeah, I'm typing it back real quick while you're talking.
I liked it.
I liked that you were looking at me
and you were typing, it was funny.
Well, I'm engaged with what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that sour cream,
and I think you do too.
I do like it.
It's a nice white, milky, that's a good sour cream. Yeah, looks like I like that sour cream and I think you do too. I do like it. It's a nice white milky
It's a good sour cream. Yeah, it's like glue. Yeah
It does love that sour cream. It looks like glue
Like how it fights to mix with the barbacoa juice because it's oily. Yes, right
That's fun. That's fun because I only get meat cheese and sour cream on my tacos to and a little crunch
Yeah, so that's none of'm hacking. None of that crap.
None of that crap.
Crunch is fun.
Crunch is fun.
I think the crunch is fun.
Crunch is fun.
Stop being something you're not.
I thought the strawberry biscuits were good,
but they're deserty, of course, which I should have known that.
They're probably better microwaved.
Because they have strawberry and the frosting on it.
They're probably real good heated up.
And I think they do.
They come warm.
But I think probably by the time we had them, we're cool.
And then there was another strawberry dessert, Wags.
I don't know if you took a bite of it.
I did take a bite of it.
This was the strawberry cheesecake cup.
So I think this was just thoroughly unnecessary.
They don't need to have this on their menu. You know what, though? I got to say. Cheesecake Cup. Yeah, so I think this was just thoroughly unnecessary. We didn't need to have this on their menu
You know what? I'm gonna say a good cup
There's something about just calling your dessert a cup. Yes, very funny to me. Yeah. Look people are on the go
They got to eat this in the car. I get it. I gotta say this
I thought we have we just we just ate at KFC, like we have said, and in the last few weeks,
like the shitty chain desserts that we've had,
this tasted good, you know what I mean?
It wasn't, the taste of it was good.
It was fine, yeah.
It's sure, superfluous, how's that, Dr. Dictionary?
It worked.
But still like.
I'm not coming at you. I don't you. I was fucking back off though.
But I still thought that everything I ate, everything I took a bite of, and like you
said, it was 30 minutes late when I was trying it, 40 minutes maybe for me, still all really,
all the bites were good.
I didn't have a bite that I took that I was like,
this is not a good flavor. I don't like this taste in my mouth. And finally, the mango lemonade,
which has haunted me, it keeps coming back. I tried to get rid of it. It just feels like a
sugar bomb. Way too sweet for me. But I still think it tasted all right. You didn't like it.
It was all over the top. It's like being in the back of Ruby Tuesday when they're making like sweet tea
and you see how much sugar.
Oh man.
Where there's, it's just like,
the scooper is like one of those things
that you put lettuce in a salad bar.
Wow.
That's like how much of like one thing,
it's like a pound of sugar for a thing of sweet tea.
That was a real shocking thing for me
working at a restaurant was also,
same thing with coleslaw, our coleslaw,
the place that, it was literally like
It had to be like two pounds of sugar that go into like one batch. Yeah
Yeah, that's why because we made it
We made it fresh
We made we put
Mayo in and then added sugar instead of doing what they would call a
Dressing sure Wow. Yeah, that's nice. Sure. Oh, wow. That's nice.
The best cheesecake dessert?
Fat Sal's.
He had their shake?
Oh, yeah.
They put a whole slice of cheesecake in their shake.
Yeah, I've not had that cheesecake shake there.
A whole slice.
Yeah, it's wild.
I just spent so much time.
I was gonna say, you know who would've liked
that Ruby Tuesday thing?
And then I was like, system of a down is the answer,
but I was like, who's that croof?
Remember when they go, sugar!
You know what I'm talking about?
Oh boy.
That is truly the funniest leap I've ever heard anyone make.
That is actually the funniest leap I've ever seen happen make. That is actually the funniest leap I've ever seen happen.
Yeah, they have a whole song called Sugar.
They're like, Sugar! Yeah.
Shabam!
Just a road as long as the Oregon Trail to that joke.
That is so funny.
You know what I love? That's just moving down.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
That's funny.
Anyways, that's what I was doing over here.
Yeah, that was good.
Now I gotta go back on the webpage and get back to Sexy Grunty too later.
We should also touch on, I don't know if we've really talked about the nuggets, which I like
the nuggets, but I just get the wings instead of the nuggets.
I guess they're for kids.
Or the tenders, I guess.
Or just bone and chicken.
Yeah.
I think they're like chopped up tenders tenders, I guess. Or for the tenders, yeah. Or just bone-in chicken. Yeah, I think they're like chopped up tenders
is what it's like, yeah.
Yeah, I think I'm, in general, I like the bone always.
Yeah, me too.
Because there's something about getting rid of the bone
that changes the experience completely for me.
So like a nugget, I'm kind of whatever on.
Or even boneless, I don't typically go boneless.
This is where Mitch and I are split because Mitch likes boneless. I like bone in I like
To be to be clear couches. Yeah
To be clear I do like I like buffalo wings
Yeah, sure like I like you prefer you prefer a boneless given the option
I would rather dip a boneless in a bunch of sauce than have to like
given the option. I would rather dip a boneless in a bunch of sauce
than have to like, you know, like find the bites
on the thing and like do the work, you know?
I understand that.
You guys are always like,
yeah, you're like finding it and stuff.
Boneless, you just,
Yeah.
Yeah.
Candy apple it and put it right in, you know?
That's, that's, also in Quincy,
I told you there are good buffalo, boneless buffalo chicken,
and you were like, I've never liked
buffalo, boneless buffalo chicken, like regular wings.
And I was like, I can show you good places.
Cause I feel like there's, like they,
out here it's just like chicken tenders in buffalo sauce.
And there it's different.
I promise you it's a little bit different.
I believe you, but also like, it's not like,
you know, it's, again, I think the authentic version
is a bone-in wig.
Yeah, I'm not going to argue that.
Yeah, I agree.
It's not worth discussing.
I mean, the sun's going to overtake the Earth
at some point in time.
Nobody's going to be able to eat chicken anymore anyway.
So, like, who gives a shit?
None of this, you won't even be able to find any of this.
Yeah.
You won't even be able to find a chicken anymore.
I will say.
The unsauced wing in the blackened ranch,
like digging in that sauce, was like as good as any
of the sauces.
I was going to say, even just the no-sauce wing,
I just ate one plain because I was like, let's just see.
I thought it was incredible. It's great. It's really good. Yeah.
It looks like it has everything going against it. The look, the size and then,
but the taste, the taste, it works.
You think you're going to get like an overly breaded wing that slides off the
bone kind of similar, not like Domino's, but there's like other fast food wings.
If there's like, Oh, they're just heavily breaded and they suck.
And these look like that, but they don't taste like that. They taste like good Pope food wings. It's like, oh, they're just heavily breaded and they suck. And these look like that, but they don't taste like that.
They taste like good Popeyes chicken.
They did it.
Well, I say they did it.
They did it.
They did it again.
I was buried in my notes for a second here.
Yeah, Casey, you're very wrong, unfortunately.
I'm buried in my notes here because I wanted to make sure
we got to everything.
And Mitch, we didn't touch on the chicken sandwich, right?
Did you talk about your classic bacon and cheese
chicken sandwich, which you still have to the right of you?
Sus got a chicken sandwich.
Did you guys get a chicken sandwich?
Oh, you had your flounder sandwich.
Oh, we didn't talk about the flounder sandwich either, yes.
My spicy flounder sandwich,
which when I was looking through the menu,
I was like, oh, I'll look through.
And it's the only time in a fast food restaurant
I've seen them name the fish.
They said, this is flounder.
And to me, I was like, so that's good.
That's quality.
They got a flounder guy.
They can't hide behind just fish.
They got a flounder guy.
They got a flounder guy.
They get the flounder from the flounder guy and they make flounder sandwiches.
Like McDonald's and things that just say fish sandwich to me makes me think of like hot dogs
or cat food or something where it's just like whatever leavens, it's fish leavens, they repress it like the McRib, they make it look like a rib, they make it look like fish again and then sell it.
But they don't even make it look like fish again. Like no fish sandwich I've ever seen looks like a fish.
Sometimes it's got the layers to it, you know, but this was Flounder.
Yeah, not some unnamed bottom feeder. This is a real fish that you would order at a restaurant.
Yeah, and it was good.
I also don't think I, by the way,
I don't think I have like a fish sandwich that like,
they made it look like it has a tail.
It's got eyes still in your mouth.
You can press it to look like a fish.
We even added bones.
You offered me a bite of that flounder sandwich.
I think I was the only one to, it took up on it.
I liked it quite a bit.
I thought it was really yummy.
Yeah.
And it was plain too.
Like I don't like pickles.
So like it was just flounder and bread and good.
I don't know.
I had the fish tacos from Del Taco.
I don't even know if there's fish in it.
It looked like, it looked like a nickel's worth of a slice of fish in it,
and I thought it'd probably gonna get sick.
A little like snurf of fish or something like that.
Yeah.
See, it didn't work.
We all clocked that as fish, right?
I didn't know what you meant by that.
What the fuck is the earth?
What the fuck is he talking about?
But yeah, it's solid fish.
I'd get that again.
I would get that again for sure.
I just took a bite of that,
which maybe was just a little too late
to take a bite of it.
Can you do buffalo fish stuff?
Of course.
You can do like a buffalo fish sandwich.
I'm saying you're loud.
That might be a substitution.
I think there's sandwich just like,
it comes in a spicy or a, you know, unspicy varietal,
but I don't know if there's a way to get it sauced.
Why don't they have like barbecue fish and stuff?
Like just cover that in sauce.
I don't know, that would be fun.
You can do it.
Yeah.
I like good fish.
Yeah, the spicy one does not have a sauce on the patty.
It just has a crispy spicy coating and then a spicy mayo.
I like a good fish sandwich.
I didn't have a bite of that one.
I had, I did the, I didn't have a bite of that one. I had I did that I
Didn't know Popeyes did this but it's a chicken sandwich with cheese and bacon on it. Is it Swiss and bacon?
Oh, I'll look at I would say probably a Swiss probably. Yeah seems like it'd be a Swiss
Probably a Swiss my god is my guess it is a confirmation whether or not this is once again
I gotta pull out the word of the day, superfluous.
No.
I fucked it up.
I fucked it up.
Superfluous.
Is everyone's...
Superfluous.
I'll say this, it's not Swiss.
Does anyone want to take another guess?
I would say provolone would be the only other.
That's a great guess.
White cheese, I don't know, it's a white cheese.
Any other guesses?
American.
God, I guess I'm fucking...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
why are you just letting you know you were wrong?
No, no, I'm not saying anyone's wrong or right.
I just want to see if everyone's saying it.
Mitch, you want to take a guess?
We got like a white American, we got a provolone.
I'm going to go with mozzarella.
It is Havarti.
Wow.
Surprising choice.
I do like Havarti, but I would not think of Havarti
from a Popeye.
I bet they get that from their flounder guy.
Yeah.
He's got it all.
They got a connection.
I got flounders and I got Havardis.
What do you need?
I got a flounders, I got a Havardi. Which one do you want?
You want both?
Hold on a second.
I ain't never done both for one client before.
I mean, the chicken sandwich from Popeyes is good.
We can all agree, except for Casey, that it's good.
The spicy chicken sandwich also good.
I think that they are the ones that brought the craze on.
Yes.
And kind of the only ones who have other places
brought the craze on.
Yeah.
I mean, the world went crazy for it.
It is so interesting when that happened
because it's like there were so many chicken sandwiches
already, but then they jumped in and it was just like, mm-mm.
It was a much better execution,
and then everyone clones specifically what they are doing,
which itself is its own clone of the Chick-fil-A concept.
And then so now like every single chain,
like Burger King, Wendy's, Jack in the Box,
they all have some version of it. McDonald's
has a version of some chains that had no business making a chicken sandwich. And they were all just
like, why are we all doing this? And then it's all some of them have to have gone away at this point.
Some of them have to have gone away, but it's all chicken places. What's that? Like hot chicken
places. I'm saying like some of them make like, whatever the Burger King, McDonald's, all those
fancy chicken sandwiches,
are they still around?
They've like gone back to their like standard.
I feel like some of them.
I stopped eating the Burger King chicken sandwiches
because of what Casey was saying about Popeyes.
Had a real tough like freezer burn.
Oh man.
Like real hard.
The chicken though, or did you get the long boy?
Was it the king or the long boy?
Oh, just the regular like breast. Yeah, yeah. And it was like, it was freezer burn like three times in a row. That's a bummer. King though or did you get the long boy was it King or the long boy? Oh
Yeah, yeah, and it was like it was freezer burn like three times in a row. That's a bummer Yeah, Mike has found a little plastic bag in his long boy burger. It was a plastic bag
Yeah, it was like it was like it was like from like yeah
Yeah, I remember thinking the long boy was so cool though and as a kid
I loved holding one end and the bun fall flops down
This is unlike any other sandwich I've ever had yeah, I've never had a bad experience with that sandwich But I you know obviously people's experiences will I love it too. I've never had a bad experience, but yeah, I believe you David
I believe you we believe you
Micah's maybe full of shit
Look you go ahead and mess with Mikeus.
I'm not going to fucking.
Mikeus is going to cave my skull in.
Simon Quincy.
Yeah, while you got brained at a bar.
And it's just me sitting there going, ah!
Ah!
Laughing as Mikeus kills you.
The chicken sandwich is great still.
I mean, they still do a good job. laughing as Micah's kills you. The chicken sandwich is great still.
I mean, like they still do a good job.
I think that you don't need to put,
you know, that word I was gonna say, you know, like a-
So, flour-flourless.
So, flour-flourless.
You don't need that to, and another word that I might say,
ungepatschke.
That's right.
You don't need all of those elements on there.
It's a little ungepatschke, it is.
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We should get to our final thoughts on Popeyes.
So, Dave, Mackie, here's how this will work.
We'll each go around, we'll give a closing argument, if you will,
and at the end of that, give this a score from zero to five forks. Can I ask Macky a quick question?
Yeah, please.
In high school, was it annoying that there was Mr. Macky with South Park?
Was that like a...
Oh, that's a great question.
You have to hear like, hey, children.
Do people do, you know what I mean?
This might be hard to believe, but I'm from such a small town that people didn't consume
media.
Wow. But I'm from like such a small town that people didn't consume media
A lot of kids my school did not watch TV
They like just like hunted and like were outside so I didn't deal with it a lot in in high school Yeah, but through the years. I've had a lot of people
Being like did people make fun of you like in in high school No, no, it wasn't that bad. I got bitch all a lot of people ask this question. Dipshit's like me. Of being like, did people make fun of you in high school?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, no.
Well, no, it wasn't that bad.
I got bitchel a lot, as you know.
Yeah, bitchel.
I've totally done that, yeah.
Mitchel rhymes with bitchel.
You know.
But I got Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nickelodeon.
And then I also got Weiger, Weiger, Weiger uppercut.
Oh, that's clever.
That's a fun one.
That's a fun one. I just got to do- You give yourself the second one, that's clever. That's a fun one. That's a fun one. I just got D.
You give yourself the second one, that's cool.
Yeah.
No, I didn't come up with it.
Other kids were doing it.
Yeah.
Island.
I got Mackey Mouse a lot, which was a weird one.
Mackey Mouse, that is interesting.
It didn't hurt at all.
Yeah, that's good.
That's nice.
I was either, it got Doody Brown and Downtown Brown.
Those are both kind of fun.
Yeah.
Doody was funner, I guess.
Was the nick, nick, nick, nick, it was like,
your dream was to work at Nickelodeon.
I hope I meet Dan Schneider someday.
Uh, Dave Brown seated to my right.
Me first?
Your thoughts, your first score on Popeyes.
But don't crack under pressure.
And it's fast food, you know, ones.
Don't crack.
Right, Wags?
It was cooked great.
The chicken's cooked great.
The breading is great.
I liked all the sauces.
They could have been a little prettier.
You know, they could have been slightly bigger.
It was a little bit of like- The grits of the glow up, you're saying. Yeah, right?
But I think overall, compared to others,
I'll give it a four, four, five.
Wow, 4.5 forks.
Two tines, 4.5 forks.
If it just would have been prettier
and there would have been stickers for the sauces.
That would have gone a long way.
That would have gone a long way.
Yeah.
Yeah, wow.
Mackie, your thoughts, your thoughts.
It didn't crack. You didn't crack.
See, it's tough.
Good job not cracking.
Good job not cracking.
Yeah, pressure's off me now.
Don't crack him, Kay.
No.
No.
It sucks for the things that I didn't like about it
to be things that didn't affect the taste.
Yeah, it's more so, yeah,
I think the presentation's a little bit crazy.
You open the little tin and you're just like,
huh, this got out of there, this is your quality control.
But the flavor's so good. The flavor quality control. But the flavor's so good.
The flavor's so good, the texture's so good.
Another thing I haven't mentioned yet,
what I really like, I guess the way that they cook chicken,
the like gristly parts on the ends,
you can kind of just eat them.
They kind of just go away.
They're not scary, is I guess what I'll say.
Which I really liked.
And I wasn't a huge fan of the garlic parmesan sauce.
It was a little too creamy for me.
I'm not a creamy sauce guy.
So I'll take off a little bit
because one of the flavors was not great.
But I think I'm in, I think I'm not to just copy you,
but I think I'm also in a four and a half forks zone.
Wow, four and a half forks.
I really, really like them and I'm a wings guy.
We're solidly in Golden Plate Club territory.
Spoonman, what do you think on this outing?
Hmm.
Well.
Shit, I'm gonna crack.
Congrats on not cracking.
Good job not cracking.
How's me?
Come on, bitch hole.
Don't you crack.
Nice.
Got him.
Fucking lame ass wasn't in marching band.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Hasn't even played Baldur's Gate 3.
Fucking dork.
Pick up a trumpet.
Come on, dude.
I dare you.
But I was in show chorus, Wikes.
That's true.
Oh, okay.
That's cooler.
That counts.
That's cooler than us.
That counts as band.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's very close.
Up until high school, sixth through eighth grade,
I was show course, then I was afraid to get made fun of,
which has lasted till this day.
Yeah.
He's cracking.
He can't get to it.
I'm cracking.
He's talking about anything else.
He's going to start talking about Baldur's Gate right now.
You know what?
Tell me more about your character.
Popeye has a saying.
I am who I am. You know how he saysye has he has a saying I am who I am
You know he says that yeah, I am what I am, but it said that neither ways all right Whatever I am what I am might be who I am I don't know my correct. I am
Look at look it up. I am what I am I
Thought it was I am who I am I think I am what I am and that's all that I am right is that it
That's probably that's I'm sorry. I I am
What I will this is bringing up I I'm Popeye the sailor man. That's not what I am and that's all that I am, right? Is that, that's prob, that sounds right. I think that Popeye, I am what, I will just bring it up, I'm Popeye the sailor man.
That's not what I'm looking for.
That's not what we need, we don't need that quote.
It's I am what I am.
I am what I am.
Yeah.
I think I was close, right?
You were, you said, you said who instead of what.
Oh fuck.
I am what I am.
I am what I am.
And at this point, Popeye's the restaurant.
Well, actually, we've had it five times,
we were finding out.
It's true.
Today earlier, I was saying that we should eat it more,
and it turns out we've been there five times.
Yes, for the Popeyes.
I'm very happy to go back with our guests.
Popeye's at this point, it is what it is,
and I think it's great.
I think it's a five-fork restaurant.
Wow.
I do, But hold on.
I thought the wings are very good.
And for fast food wings, man.
Because I was going to say the wings are for the restaurants
of five, right in the middle 4.5 total score for the day.
And I think that that's what I'll do.
But I honestly think the wings might be better than a four.
They might be like four and a quarter to four and a half.
They're tiny.
The presentation isn't great.
They didn't have stickers on these ones.
First thing you said was, these look like shit.
I mean, they did look like shit.
And everyone immediately was like, no, you're wrong.
Everyone was like, you were wrong.
I think Suss stood up.
I think Susser stood up to me.
He didn't stand up.
He stood up. And did. I think Susser stood up to me. He didn't stand up. He stood up.
And it was very aggressive.
He threw his mac and cheese in your face.
That's why he didn't offer me any later.
But they were, besides the look of them, they tasted really good, Wags.
I think this is a, it's a five fork restaurant.
Four to four and a half for the wings.
I'll just say 4.25 for the wings, and I'll give 4.5 for the day.
Wow, four forks, two tines all around.
I cracked.
It falls to me.
You're gonna crack too.
I might crack.
Yeah.
I'm gonna try not to.
Which by the way, if he cracks, get down.
We swap couches now?
I'm not gonna crack.
But I am going to go back to our engineer, Casey.
Casey, if you were going to rate this chain
based off of your three pyre experiences,
I can't imagine you would go above two forks.
You might even be in one fork territory.
Yeah, well, it's like, you know how you like,
you go to McDonald's and sometimes it's like
the worst thing you've ever eaten.
Yes, yeah. But sometimes it's the best thing you've ever eaten.
My experience with Popeyes is it's the worst version of it every time.
Wow.
So I'm kind of jealous.
I wish I was on this order now because it sounds like it was hitting today.
It was great.
But where I stand is it's a zero forker.
So Casey goes zero.
You just made our guests's eyes go crossed.
What?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Casey goes zero forks.
Zero forker.
That's impressive.
How many years ago was the last time you had it?
Last time I tried it, it was within the year,
like maybe like six months ago.
Wow.
It was like a late night thing,
maybe not the best version,
but it was the best time to be eating it.
What do you remember where you were?
It was Popeyes that was spelled the same.
Yeah.
It wasn't something else,
like there wasn't a U in it,
and it was like dog meat.
Yeah.
Popeyes, Popeyes.
Yeah, it's like the tail of the pup thing
we were talking about earlier.
Maybe you, yeah, maybe.
Maybe you ate a different place.
Maybe you were eating dog shit. Yeah. It's called a dog shit the pump thing we were talking about earlier. Maybe you yeah, maybe Maybe you're eating dog shit
Dog shit cafe
There is a dog shit cafe right next door to Popeye
You and I eat there all the time we like there all the time I like it
I like we think it's we think dogs if he got me is a five-for-a-cruise. I wish we didn't know that was an option
I would pick that for the shit I've always been interested so we start off with the dog shit is a 5'4' question by the way. I wish we didn't know that was an option. I would have picked that for the show. Yeah.
I've always been interested.
So we started off with the dog shit.
Yeah.
What do you think about why?
I thought it was a little dry.
Yeah.
I would have preferred wetter dog shit.
I liked how chunky it was.
The soup was great.
A little wormy. It was a little wormy, but it- The soup was great
Little warming it was a little warm
Texture it was
Interesting I wasn't expecting those I don't know if they were supposed to be in there, but I liked it
That made me close to gag. Yeah
Disgusting thing that's ever been sent on the podcast up there. It's good to say that stuff on a food podcast Yeah, really good. I loved it
Casey goes you're a possibility that you like cause one of our listeners like swerve in traffic and die. Yeah
Just so you know
I'm gonna get sued
There's like a huge guy that he can't get out of a car right now. They're just going to bury him in his car.
Just vomiting on himself.
Casey goes zero forks.
Susser, as he was leaving, comes up to me and is like, it's five forks.
What are we doing here?
He's almost like incense.
Why even record?
I was like, what are we doing here? Like he's kind of like almost like incense. Whoa, whoa. He was so, so like this is so funny. Why even record?
I was like, what are you doing here?
You think, Matt, what are we doing here?
We're going to record the Boggess.
What are you doing?
It was my job.
You just came by for a free lunch.
Why do we even do this, Chuck? We're going to record the Boggabats. What are you doing? It was my job. You just came by for a free lunch.
Yeah.
Why do they even do this show?
Casey had a constant presence on the show, as is Emma.
Emma, where would you land fork wise?
Honestly, it's been a long time since I had Popeye,
so I don't know if I can give a fair full score.
I do know I loved the chicken sandwich when it came out.
I had a great time with that.
It was a simple chicken sandwich,
so I'm probably gonna go for it more,
because they're easy.
Yeah.
Uh, there's another person who is involved with the show,
but in a behind-the-scenes capacity,
and is not often brought up here on the Doughboys podcast.
They're not here, Dave.
They're not behind the scenes.
They're not behind the scenes.
They're not behind the scenes. Oh. That. They're not behind the early game. They're not behind the early game. They're not behind the early game.
Oh.
Do you think I can?
That'd be a hell of a surprise, though.
Yeah.
We stashed a guy back there.
Muro three-fourths.
That's like in wrestling when someone's
like under the ring for so long.
Under the ring, yeah.
Did they, like that, I guess like they have the lights go out,
sometimes they can sneak in, right?
It's like the other way they do it.
But are people just hanging out under that ring?
The whole show?
Sometimes there's a little, not the whole show.
It'll be like in a break, they'll come,
they'll push them out in like a little fake little cart.
Oh, okay.
And then they'll go under the ring.
Oh, like Taylor Swift.
Yeah, like Taylor Swift in the broom closet.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
I did a show with our buddy Dave Christensen years ago,
and he was, like there was a present that was just on stage the
whole time. I don't remember if it was a Christmas show or whatever it was. It might have been a
Valentine's Day thing. And there was just like a big, big oversized box, but it just looked like
stage dressing. And he was hunched inside there for the entire like 90 minute show.
And then at the very end of the show, he popped out and then chased me around and that was the end of the show
and it was like, first off it was like
incredible the audience response
but then afterwards it was just like the commitment of like
I can't believe you did that for the whole show.
People who have that level of commitment
to things like that, I'm just like more power to you
but I think don't do that.
Just hot stage lights, just cooking that box.
I think it's a good thing to do when you're like 25.
Right.
You reach a certain point, just like, OK, that's fine.
But a shout out to Dave, if you're listening out there,
as he sometimes does.
Great dude, very funny dude.
Shout out.
Stage dressing got me hungry when he said stage dressing.
No, the behind the scenes.
Stage dress.
What were we going to say?
Nathan Barnett did that for What's Going On.
That's right, yeah.
He was in the rafters, and they were doing a bit, this talk show that, oh, they know,
people who listen to the podcast know this.
Yeah.
I did a talk show where I didn't know what was gonna happen.
And Nathan Barnett was-
Unlike Doughboys, where you're always completely prepped.
Nathan was, there was a bit on this wheel of bits and it was skydiving and I never hit
it, but the bit was that he was gonna fall out of the rafters.
And he was up in the rafters holding on up there
for so long and that was at the beginning of the show.
And Nathan stayed up there for like,
probably two hours or something.
Like it was like so long.
Never fell down?
And then like halfway through the show
or like almost towards the end of the show,
he fell from the rafters.
They were just like fall at some point.
That's a, that is a far fall.
Yeah.
Jesus.
The guy's athletic.
I mean, we've talked about this before,
like Nathan is like such an athletic guy.
He's an incredible athlete.
Yeah, like you're like all, it's all mostly out of shape dorks.
Right.
And then you're like, oh, this guy can like run a mile
in like four minutes.
Yeah, he's like wiry and muscly.
Yeah. And yeah. You kick your ass. Yeah, it's just like wiry and muscly and yeah.
You kick your ass.
Yeah, I kick my ass.
Yeah.
Was that a high bar?
No.
Someone could kick the dough boy's ass?
It's like not a lot of people.
It's many people.
Ha ha ha.
Okay, so the behind the scenes individual
I was going to mention was Marty Michael,
who is the head of Headgum.
The head.
Came into, the titular head of Headgum
came into the kitchen while we were eating Popeyes
and was like, oh wow, Popeyes.
And I asked Marty for his fork score.
And Marty, much like Susser, was like, easy five forks.
Wow.
Went immediately with five forks.
So I am choosing here.
Am I going to side with the essential labor that makes our show
possible with the worker, the frontline individual who actually, you know, does the...
One percent.
One percent.
Am I going to side with the worker or am I going to side with the bosses?
And I got to say, contrary to what I was saying on the picket lines, down, down with the workers, up, up with the bosses. And I gotta say, contrary to what I was saying on the picket lines,
down, down with the workers, up, up with the bosses.
I agree with Marty Michael, this is a five-fork chain.
Five forks for Popeyes.
Welcome to the Cold and Plate Club, where you belong.
That's...
That's...
Dave brings confetti guns.
Whoo! Yeah, wow.
Hey, that 1%, they can be right a lot of the time.
They're often right.
They're often right.
Well, they got there for some reason.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
They made some good choices somewhere.
You know?
I agree.
If you made a couple choices like that,
maybe things would be different for us.
You know what I mean?
It's true.
We're stuck down here in the 99%.
We can't hate these guys.
We want to paint these guys.
We want to be them. Hey, that was our review of Popeyes. It's time for a segment. Oh, I'm not saying fucks Casey try some good
Zero fork experience we gotta get we gotta get it's really shocking though the disparity because like I
Didn't a zero like cafeteria school cafeteria food. It was so bad. Interesting.
Did you have, we already talked about this.
You're a Chick-fil-A guy in Florida.
Yeah, I grew up with Chick-fil-A.
Oh, okay.
This is, I think there might be,
that might be a tough thing to get over.
I think there is a dividing line.
Yeah, for sure.
I think some people.
No, I mean, it was just like truly disgusting.
I believe it.
I believe it, I believe it, I believe it.
We believe you.
We can take you to like a Glendale Popeyes. Yeah, that's what we get it. We get it. We get it
We get a Glendale on it, but that what Glendale one. I think one of Eagle Rock's pretty good. Maybe that's the one
I'm thinking of yeah, like on the two right by that. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Yep. We'll figure it out
Okay there. Hey, that was our review of Popeyes. It's time for a segment
Yum, yum, and eat eat. It's the pit hall. Oh
Yum, yum, and eat, eat. It's the Pit Hall. Oh, my God.
It's a tribute to Casey's F1 podcast, The Pit Wall,
which you can check out right here on HeadGum.
Despite his insane Popeyes, he does have a great F1 podcast.
It is. We had a blast doing it.
You should check it out.
We had a blast doing it.
So, this is the Pit Hall.
Amelia is gonna come in here.
Amelia, you can walk on in.
Hi, everyone.
Our associate producer, Amelia Marino, everybody.
So Mitch and Dave and Mackie are presented with a pit
and must determine which fruit each pit came from.
This is very funny.
All of their senses.
This is very funny.
I'm going to be so bad.
Now, if you're hap-
Amelia, this is good.
If you were having trouble-
I thought when you came in, I thought you had empty bowls.
I was confused about what this was.
These bowls are currently empty.
Is it just my taste or look?
You don't have to touch it with your mouth, please.
So these bowls are currently empty,
but they are going to be occupied by a number of pits.
I guess we have five pits, Amelia?
Yes.
So we have five different pits.
And yes, you can use all of your senses
to try to determine what fruit a pit came from.
And if you're having trouble once per round,
you can ask the pit boss, Casey, for help.
Good, good.
What?
He doesn't know anything, he would give you his opinion.
He just gives you his opinion, yeah.
Okay, great.
All right, Amelia, do you wanna bring these in
one at a time, or do you wanna-
We could start with the,
well, we could start easy with the light bulb.
Oh, so there's already a pit in there.
Yeah, I kind of rearranged them from easiest.
So are you gonna pass it down to each of us
and we each have a-
Yes. All right.
Actually, this might be easy.
So we keep our opinions to ourselves
till we've all scoped it?
Yeah, cause you're competing against each other.
Oh, okay.
You're a lot to touch.
Wait, wait, before you smell them, should we do the sniff line thing?
How does the sniff line work?
You're only allowed to use one sniff line per, for the whole game.
Okay, so you have two lifelines.
You can either ask the pit boss or you can use the sniff line, which means you can smell it.
You can only smell it one time.
You can only smell one of these.
Yeah.
So you want to go tactile first.
Okay, cool. But I can smell one of these. Yeah. Yeah Okay, cool, but I can smell one of these
Yeah, I mean you can smell it then you can smell it but I mean all right with actual sniff
Yeah, you can't you can't we can't go like we're gonna have to get into the like how much we can smell it's fine
Okay, got it. We'll figure it out if we want to smell it. We'll smell it. Yeah, but if you want to take an actual sniff
That's a sniff line
It's the difference between smelling it and sniffing it.
Smell is passive, sniff is active.
Sniff is close I think.
Close, okay, I'm not gonna, look,
I think that this is one that we probably all know.
I'm feeling it in my hand, it's cold.
I like that, it's probably in the fridge maybe.
Oh yeah, we all know this one.
We all know this one.
You all feel pretty confident here.
I don't know actually.
No, I know it, y'all just say it first.
This is my favorite thing about doing anything with Davis, just assuming he knows stuff.
This is going to be bad.
I have an idea.
What if we put in our notes app, we wigs, we put it down.
I don't think this one would smell.
Wigs?
Sure.
I mean, however you want to do it.
I'm going to ask you your answers because we're going to vocalize them.
That way that we can each, because if one of us says the answer, you can just say, reveal your answers cuz well now that way that we can each we each
Cuz one of one of us says the answer you can just say reveal your answers and we'll put them on Yeah, but more than one of you can get a point if multiple people are correct
Oh, it's you're not we're gonna have to reveal at the same time
Three two one and we'll say it I guess
One at a time and then it can say who's right at the end that'll also work right but and just agree
No cheating you can't change your answer. You have to mentally lock in your yeah lock in your answer
We'll do it on the honor system. I liked my notes fine the write down the notes after you want to bring your fucking phones
Out right on the fucking notes app. No, you know I hate phones wise I'm with you wait
Do I whiteboards you can write your answers on?
Get whiteboard
He loves the whiteboards
Those are just electronic whiteboards
Wait, I do I should I put I think I have the answers right?
Okay, so you want me to play or do you want me to judge?
I'll judge.
We're going to be careful with the bottom of the bowls.
All right, here we go.
Thank you, Amelia.
All right.
Everyone is writing on their whiteboards their answers.
The the.
Pitch in question for my description,
it appears to have sort of a nutty sort of brown
sort of walnut hue to it a semi circular form factor maybe kind of going to a tip
like an acorn and yeah it's it's I think I have an idea of what this is and okay
I'm gonna write it bigger I know know the answer. I have my answer. I think I figured it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, we reveal yes
Avocado pit spoon man, that's an avocado
Avocado wow got it. I like what Dave did Dave wrote Dave wrote left space for all five of them
Spoon man. Spoon man.
Yeah, spoon.
Yeah.
I ain't no, that's for sure.
I wrote spoon man next to it.
That's a spoon.
It looks like ET's silhouette.
That's a spoon?
All right, we all got it, huh?
Okay, everyone gets a point for avocado.
Pretty simple.
That one's pretty simple.
Amelia, can you keep score?
Thank you so much.
I'll put it in my notes app.
Take the white board.
I gotta circle this white board. There you go, Take the white board. I gotta start with this white board.
There you go.
All right, here we go.
I was surprised at how wooden it is.
I guess I never, how wooden it looks.
It's very woody.
Yeah.
It is.
OK, you changed it from spoon man to beach shadow.
Why did you cross out silo?
I was trying to spell silhouette. All right, take the pink wall next.
Mitch, you can grab that one.
I didn't spell silhouette.
It's S, is the H after the L?
Yeah.
S-I-L-O-U.
Yeah, it's like silhouette.
That's how I remember.
It's fucking, can we be all real?
It's a tough one.
It's a tough one.
Should we all try to spell it and see what it, let's all try to spell it. That's the bonus would've known. It's fucking, can we be all real? It's a tough one. It's a tough one. Should we all try to spell it and see what it,
let's all try to spell it.
That's the bonus round if we tie.
Bonus is spell silhouette.
Okay, I have the spelling here.
Okay.
Oh my God, I really don't know how to spell this word.
It's a hard one to spell.
I probably wouldn't get this one right.
I'd rely on auto-correct for this one.
Yeah.
I have no idea.
That's probably wrong.
Oh yeah, it's mine's, yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
This is bad.
Do you want to reveal your answers?
That's definitely not it.
That's definitely not it.
Turn it around.
I'll write it bigger.
Mine is silohet.
There's definitely trailing T-E.
T-E.
I think so, right?
Oh, that's what it is. You're also missing some other letters. There's definitely trailing T-E. T-E. I think so, right?
Oh, that's what it is.
I think you're also missing some other letters.
There's a U in there, I just didn't know.
Does anyone else wanna reveal what they have?
I have a silhouette.
And you also drew a little doo-doo brown there.
Yeah.
And you drew nicknames?
That's pretty good, that's pretty good.
That's pretty close.
That's not bad, yeah,
because you're just missing an H, I think, right?
What about it?
There's an H?
You have all the letters, so it's S-I-L-H-O-U-E-T-T-E.
The H is after the L, okay.
H is in there.
I spelled it right.
It is so...
Let me see.
Amelia did it.
Good job, Amelia.
All right, Amelia gets a point.
Damn it.
Can I see it?
I even said that that's how it's spelled with the...
I said silhouette and I still didn't.
Silhouette. Silhouette. Sil silhouette. Well, good job Amelia
I give yourself a point so it's all not enough at one right now. So the Mitch let's go to the pink bowl next
We've already done this light this baby blue bowl
Maybe oh Mitch play the game
going the people
Okay, ooh this one's gross
This one looks one looks significantly smaller than the previous one. Mitch dropped it.
Mitch dropped the pit.
Kasey, what's going on in the pit wall lately?
Is the feed active right now?
Is it during the season?
Oh yeah, the season's going.
There's a big race in Miami this week.
Wow.
This episode comes out way after.
Sure, naturally, yeah, yeah.
This is really good.
This one's a little trickier to me.
Right now, yeah.
Any recent episodes people should check out?
Oh, that's weird.
We just finished watching
Oh, my sniff.
Director Survive, the Netflix show.
Fun.
So you could hear us talk about every episode,
which you guys talked about the first two.
That's true, that was a lot of fun
with that rich fail son.
It was a blast.
This one is harder.
I have two ideas.
I'm going to go with one I think is wrong.
I'm going to try to spell silhouette again,
because I bet you I don't even remember.
OK.
I believe you that you don't remember.
Yeah.
I'm looking at it and I don't remember.
So Amelia, were any of these chewed through?
Or how did you separate the pit from the fruit?
My bare hands.
Your bare hands, wow, very primal.
Diggin' in there.
Yeah, this one is significantly smaller.
You put what I almost put.
It has a bit of a-
No cheating.
Of a grainy texture as you feel it with your fingers.
No one has invoked the sniff line yet.
If I use my sniff line here-
Does that give it away? No, it here, no, it's no help.
But I think I'm wrong.
I know what the answer is.
Okay.
All right, everyone reveal what you got.
Did I spell silhouette correct?
No, the H is over.
H and the O, you're close.
Was I close?
You are, you just have to flip the O and the H.
Okay, Mitch has prune.
Flip the H and the Izzo.
Mitch has prune, Mackie has peach.
I have chunky pumpkin.
Chunky pumpkin.
It felt like a big pumpkin, like a big thick one.
Unfortunately, you're all wrong, it is a plum.
Stone fruit against peaches may be closest.
Which means Amelia, you stumped everyone,
so you get another point.
Wow. So Amelia's in the lead right now. I forgot to mention this, you stumped everyone so you get another point. Wow.
So Amelia's in the lead right now.
I forgot to mention this.
You can get an extra sniff line
if you spell silhouette correctly.
Oh.
All right, we got this next blue bowl over here.
What is that?
That was a prune?
That was a prune?
That was a prune.
I don't think I've ever had a plum.
That was a plum.
Plum, plum.
I don't think I've ever had a plum or a prune.
Plums are great, treat yourself.
Yeah?
Yeah, a lot of fun.
A prune is a dried plum, right?
Is it?
I think so.
So is Mitch right?
A prune is a dried plum.
Oh, shit!
Do you wanna give it to Mitch?
Well, well, well.
Okay.
Whoa!
But a prune doesn't have the pit in it anymore.
Yeah, a prune usually would be pitted, right?
But it's still the same fruit. I think we give Mitch a half point there. I think Amelia, you still But a prune doesn't have the pit in it anymore. Yeah, prune usually would be pitted, right? But it's still the same fruit.
I think we give Mitch a half point there.
I think Amelia, you still get a point,
but Mitch gets a half point.
One point five points.
They are, prunes are made by pitting
and drying fresh ripe plums.
So they do not make prunes with pits in them.
They came with it.
I think it's close enough for half point.
Originally, yes.
This is fucking gnarly.
I'm gonna take a sniff test.
Oh, okay.
Sniff line, here we go.
All right, which I have two sniff lines.
What shade of blue is this?
It's not quite a navy.
It's not quite a royal.
I'm really sniffing this.
Like it's an identifiable sniff of like a,
yeah, like an aqua bowl.
I have no idea.
The sniff line, I'll save you guys a sniff.
Describe what you're holding here Mitch.
It's like a gross little fucking...
Did you just grab it into your microphone?
I'm sorry. It's like a little snotty bone.
Yes, yeah. It's flatter than the other ones that we've examined so far.
Alright, Mitch is going to pass that over to Mackie.
It's sticky.
This is disgusting looking. It is sticky. And these are fruits? They are all technically fruits. I think that I think to have a pick you would have to be afraid of them. Really? Is that what it is?
I'm gonna use the sniff just because I want to smell it. Yeah and it's nothing. All right so two sniff
lines have been expended. Did you get anything from that? If I didn't get number two,
I'm not gonna get any of the rest of them.
Ugh. Slimy?
Ah, the bowl has been passed over today.
What is that? It looks like a little bone.
It's gross. Yeah, it is.
It's a little bone.
It's weird. It does look like a little bone.
It looks like a tooth.
I would be baffled by this one.
Is a pit considered a seed?
Good question.
Does anyone know anything with seeds
in it is considered a fruit? Do they know anything? The seeds in the in it is considered a fruit.
Are pit seeds.
As the pit boss, I would say a a pit isn't a seed.
Got it.
You want to look at that thing?
That's slimy.
Yeah, this is a weird looking.
Not a seed. Isn't aren let's see, you want to look at that thing? That's slimy. Yeah, this is a weird looking. Is a pit not a seed?
Isn't, aren't pits seeds?
Pits protect the seed, which is inside of the pit.
Wow, Casey's right.
Don't go down the pit box.
I have something to say about this current one.
I think that's the seed.
You think this is a seed?
I think that's the seed
and the thing around it that I discarded was the pit.
Okay, well, cause this is not particularly identifiable.
Ugh, you've pulled your finger off of it
and it looks like goo stretched.
It's like covered with pre-com.
Yeah.
What?
Dear God.
I want to hold my fucking 12 year old underwear here.
Nice dude.
Nice.
Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick.
Um.
Did he get the low Mr. Schneider?
I have no idea.
Yeah.
Well, we'll need everyone to write their guesses down.
Just take your best guess.
I will say that this is a fruit that you all know.
This is not an obscure fruit.
So guessing any fruit may just be the best,
most prudent course of action. I can't even think of other fruits.
Uh, apple.
In terms of possibly stealing a point.
I can also say it's not an apple, if that's okay.
It's not an apple.
On account of apples, don't have to.
Yeah.
What is it?
Where do you stand on, Mitch, what's your go-to fruit?
You're a banana guy, you're a watermelon guy.
Pineapple.
Pineapple, that's right, you're a pineapple guy.
I wrote down one I don't know if I spelled it guy, your watermelon guy. Pineapple. Pineapple, that's right, your pineapple guy.
I wrote down one I don't know if I spelled it right either.
Papaya.
Papaya, papaya is your guess.
Papaya pit.
All right, Mackie, what'd you got?
I gotta change my answer.
Mango?
Mackie guesses mango.
Question mark.
M-A-M-A, possible connection.
This is so wrong, it's embarrassing.
I just wrote a bean.
It looked like a black bean.
It looked like a...
Yeah, it's just a bean, right?
That one was just a bean, right, Amelia?
It was probably tricks.
It wasn't just a bean?
There's probably tricks in this.
It wasn't a trick?
You didn't put a bean in there?
Someone did get it correct though.
Yeah, that's right.
Mackie Orr corrected his name, Mango Pitch. That's mango? So Mackie it correct though. Yeah, that's right. Mackie, you are correct. It is a mango pit. Whoa!
That's mango.
So Mackie gets another point.
Full guess.
That is definitely not a mango pit.
What are the-
That's definitely the seed.
It's the seed and then the pit
that I could go bring it in if you wanna see.
I believe it.
I'm pretty sure it looks like-
I thought tropical fruit of some sort.
Cause I know the mango pit,
typically I've literally just the other day
heard that the pits are like flat
I didn't realize mangoes are so pre coming. Yeah, they're very pretty really are
I thought it was a tribal food or I and I thought bean was a good guess. I think
Yeah, being was a good guess for this game. Let's give Dave a half point for Bean.
Mitch, let's go to the yellow bowl.
If you wanna grab the yellow bowl.
I guess I'll just write Bean for every other reason
and get a half a point.
Well, if you do it, I'm not gonna fight.
It's gotta come from him.
All right, Mitch has the yellow bowl now.
Now, this looks like you're holding something
a little bit more, again, kind of walnut-shaped,
a little bit more substantial than the previous two pastes.
I have a little baby plus on this one.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
Now remember, you have your,
two of you have used your sniff line,
but Dave, you still have your sniff line, and also,
if anyone wants- Well, actually, we have,
actually, we spelt Silhouette correctly, eventually.
Oh, she got an extra sniff line
Yeah, so you have your sniff line in the bank and you can also ask the pit
I mean Dave could also just spell silhouette correctly and get another sniff line. Oh, yeah. Yeah
Do you help this out?
Fucking hard-ass word got it. It's not an easy word.
Still wrong.
Wow.
I should have sniffed line that one, but you know I'm going to, I'll save it for the last
one.
All right, Dave has invoked his sniff line.
He's taking a big old whiff.
Big old honky sniff here.
It was a sniff line, not a whiff line.
Wow.
Great point, Emma.
Fuck, I still don't know.
What do I have to spell right to be able to put it in my mouth?
I'm locked in. My first answer is my answer but I... Wait, wait. I wrote two. What fruits are there? Because I'm going to be mad if it is the second one. So just know I'll be mad. OK. Also, can we turn the air on?
It said 75.
Well, you got to turn it off when we're
talking about Baldur's Gate.
That's your fault.
You're trying to heat us out here.
OK, I put an angry face next to my second guess.
OK, great.
So if that's the answer.
Should I reveal?
Yeah, everyone reveal your guesses.
Durian?
OK, Mitch's first guess is durian.
And your second guess is peach angry face.
Did I spell it wrong, durian?
No, you spelled that correctly.
Mackie.
I was gonna-
What was peach? Peach again.
And David is perhaps still writing.
I guess peach too,
but I spelled the first part of it papaya.
So papayach, because I spelled the first part of it papaya
Because I couldn't think of any other fruit
Good at these we get we get what you mean. I think it is peach so bitch Unfortunately, you're angry Mac. He gets a point. I think we can go again give Dave a half point
Yeah, they are.
They're famously foul smelling.
If there was a durian in the house, you would smell it.
Okay.
You know, I'm glad we're giving Dave points by cheating because it proves that it...we
all know.
Yes, right.
We all know he's getting points for bullshit.
Can we say a bunch of fruits out loud so that I have like a batch to guess from?
A batch?
Just a batch?
Grape, orange, tangerine. That's a good one. out loud so that I have like a batch to guess from. Just a batch.
Grape, orange, tangerine.
Those are real helpful, all these things that don't have pits.
They have seeds.
Poison berry.
We have one left. Mitch, if you want to grab that, okay, Amelia's bringing it over to you.
The orange bowl.
Finally an orange bowl.
This is the hardest one, Amelia?
God. This is the orange bowl. Finally, this is the hardest one, Amelia. Yeah, yeah. God, this is the hardest one.
Mitch is looking down, befuddled at this bowl.
And I think it's because of its contents.
There was some confusion at the grocery store, I think.
Okay, I fucked up.
So, but just, you'll see, just,
everyone's gonna have to invoke the sniff test
for this one.
And remember, you can also ask the pit boss.
It's just juice?
Oh, it's a stinky.
It's a stinky?
Oh, it's a stinky.
Mackie visibly coughing with pulse.
There's stinky fruits?
What the fuck is that?
I didn't know there was stinky fruits.
Yeah, so there's some fruits that stink.
Oh yeah, that's shitty.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's shitty.
It's like a vinaigrette
Is that a fruit? I would not call a vinaigrette a fruit. No
You could yeah, okay
from this fruit I
Have no clue this is really interesting because I know what the answer is. You do? Yeah.
How you landed on this. I mean, I think I can, what I can tell is
I can visualize the fuck up.
I know what the fuck up,
I know exactly what the fuck up was.
I have my answer.
Yeah.
All right, Mitch, let's see your answer.
Flip around your whiteboard.
Arm pit.
Oh!
I just gave a shout out to Gravel Pit by Wu Tang.
On the bottom.
But arm pit.
Arm pit is your guess.
And then it says Wu Tang underneath?
Yeah, Gravel Pit from Wu Tang, good song, listen to it.
Got it, got it.
I'm just recycling other answers, papaya.
Papaya, okay.
Just a guess.
Okay, I thought of a fruit.
Dave put piss.
Pomegranate?
Oh!
So Amelia, what I'm guessing happened is that you bought an olive. Okay, I thought of a fruit. Dave put piss. Pomegranate. Oh!
So Amelia, what I'm guessing happened
is that you bought an olive,
not realizing it was pre-pitted.
It was pit, she got pitted men.
I thought pit had a pit in it.
It had a pit in it?
Yes, right.
The correct answer is a pitted olive.
It is an olive.
What the hell?
This is olive juice.
The pits weren't in it, so it's just olive juice.
Olive pit is one of the most recognizable pits.
Yeah, if you just included pit,
I think people could have gotten that.
I think you're right, they're already pitted.
The answer was pitted olive.
So if you said that.
So the answer was olive juice?
But you know what, I'll give you a point for armpit
because that was clever.
Thank you.
Wow, so where do we land?
Amelia, who's our winner?
Our winner is...
Smacky.
I think so.
I would think so.
Our winner is Mitch. Wow, congratulations so. I would think our winner is Mitch Wow
Come on I
Think it's Mackie
The real winner is Mackie Wow congrats Mackie
Right, I don't remember if I got answers right.
You got avocado.
I got peach right.
I got avocado right.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, I got a couple of answers right.
Is that two points?
And I got, what's that?
That's only two points though.
I got mango also.
And I guess I also, I got my points honest.
So that also makes me feel a lot better.
I wasn't gifted points.
I didn't beg for those.
I don't make the rules up here ha ha ha. That was the pit hall.
I don't make the rules up here.
Mitch is furiously writing his son his way through.
You'll see.
No looking.
Okay, sorry.
Mitch is scribing something.
That was the pit hall.
Great job, Amelia.
That was great.
Thank you.
That was a fun game.
Just like a restaurant.
We thought.
Swag, swag, swag, ready?
Yeah.
All right, ready?
Life's a herald. Life's a hererald and I'm in the third beat.
Whoa!
Mitch, I'd buy that shirt.
I'd buy that shirt.
It's the shirt I talked about.
You have to put copyright Sharna at the bottom.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, she's going to need a taste of that.
Just like a restaurant, via your feedback, let's open up the feedback.
Today's email is from Adam L. Adam writes, Hey guys, recent podcast Jackie Johnson's Sisters Brewery
has released a Chicago hot dog beer.
I think you meant a hut dog.
It's called hot dug beer called Double Barrel Shaw Boing Boing.
Double Barrel Shaw Boing Boing is the name.
What's the most fucked up this beer
you think you would reasonably try?
I would try that.
I would try this one.
It's a Chicago style lager, double barrel she-boing-boing
from Vector Brewing.
I'd say this, I would try any beer
of any flavor that I would eat.
I mean, like, I think it would go, if it was like,
like, if it was like, you know, booger beer,
I'd be like, I don't want booger beer.
Well, I wouldn't.
You'd want booger beer? Like, I wouldn't. You want booger beer?
Anything that's like, you know, that you eat that a human being would eat.
Maybe outside of like insects or something like that.
I do a bug beer.
Bug beer is a great name.
It is a great name.
What I think about booze is like, booze doesn't inherently taste good anyway.
Yeah, sure, yeah. It's, IPA's good, no.
They're not good.
They're not good like apple juice is good.
IPA guys like to pretend that IPA's taste good.
They taste like shit.
IPA's are bad.
If things didn't have alcohol in it
or coffee didn't have caffeine in it,
then people wouldn't just be like,
that's what I'm gonna have right now.
We got, we so when we were like
IPA's aren't good we're like people will get mad at us IPA guys are gonna get mad at us they were
yeah they were very mad at us. Have you had double-barrel bastard IPA's like yeah I fucking
whatever I had the obnoxiously named IPA and you know it tastes like shit I don't want to drink this
it's fucking gross too hoppy. So when Boo's in I'd probably try whatever. Yeah. Cause it's already pretty bad.
I guess yeah, there would be pieces of floating bugs
in there, you know what I mean?
I put Charna, like.
Charna.
I put Charna Corp.
I don't know what her corporation is.
Like Matt Groening's little signature
on every Simpsons drawing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, that's the corporation symbol, right?
The little C with the circle around it.
Yeah.
Visible bug stuff.
Oh, copyright symbol.
Do you think he signed the Epstein flake log with the same signature?
Oh, my god.
Oh, Matt Graying in a copyright.
No.
All right.
It would be awkward for me to go back to The Simpsons.
What do you mean?
I think this is a, this is one of those ones where, yeah,
I think I have an open mind about this, honestly.
Cause like, even when it's a dare flavor,
and you know, we talked about this
with our salt and straw episode,
where they'll have like, whatever,
some intentionally putrid thing.
Like this is our mustard flavored ice cream.
I'll still try it and I'll be like, this tastes like shit.
I see what you did, but I'm not necessarily into this
I also this a little bit of a different commitment. I feel like if it's not body secretions
Yeah, cuz you're not gonna get pieces of bugs in the beer. No, I feel like I'd labor I would try anything
Possibly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I don't I don't drink so that would be the main reason that I wouldn't try it
But if you gave me a non-alcoholic version of a hot,
was it hot dog beer? Yeah.
Hot dog beer is an easy choice to be honest.
I'd definitely do it at a baseball game.
It's basically already the flavor
probably when you're eating a hot dog,
you're drinking a little sip of beer.
It's true.
A little bit of a sippy.
Sippy.
I'm just doing a little bit of a sippy. Sippy.
I'm just doing a little bit of a sippy.
Come on.
Macky, as a teatotaler, do you like an N.A. beard?
Do you like a non-alcoholic beard?
I don't really drink it. I mostly just drink Diet Coke
and like sparkling water.
Those are the big guys for me.
Man, I just...
The doctor just laid down a challenge for me yesterday.
Ooh.
Get in shape.
Oh, no. It was... It, it was, uh, no boos.
Uh-huh.
Ugh.
No cheese.
Uh-huh.
Get out of here.
And no diet soda or any soda for a month.
He wants me to do it for a month.
When does he want you to start?
Like immediately?
You know, he said May 1st, but you know.
Okay.
So yesterday? So yesterday?
Yeah.
This episode will come out.
This will be-
I'm going back to Quincy, I'm not gonna start
until I get back, it just is not feasible.
I'm gonna drink when I'm there.
It's impossible to not drink.
It's impossible.
You cut two out.
Yeah, I'm gonna, and then, but I-
Even cutting one out would feel like a win.
It's true.
I think it's crazy.
Also, fuck your doctor for being like,
you gotta do three of the hardest things.
Yeah, yeah. Come on.
One thing at a time.
Yeah, who's your doctor?
Dr. Doom?
I mean, come on.
Right?
Is that who your doctor is?
That's your doctor.
Right? It is?
Oh my God, he wears a mask?
Wow, that's tough.
Oh my God.
I look forward to working with Paul Walter Hauser
in the Fantastic Four movie. Literally the thing that I did get texted while we were talking.
Who's he playing?
The Thing?
I don't know.
I think probably my guess is The Thing.
Yeah, I would guess that.
I mean, if I was like, hey, I got cast in the Fantastic Four movie, what would you guess?
The fucking Thing.
Yeah, of course, you'd guess the fucking Thing.
You wouldn't guess Mr. Fantastic.
That's strict.
No, it's going to be some hunk.
Yeah, I agree that it's a lot of stuff at once.
He also told me to get an early colonoscopy.
Wow.
They're doing that a lot these days for younger people.
Apparently, colon cancer is becoming a thing for you.
This is a great thing to talk about.
No, I mean, it's like the reality meeting should be in Cheney Field.
Apparently, they're saying now, if you have any history of cancer in your family,
you should start getting screenings in your 30s.
Wow.
Yeah, I said this to Wags,
it's because it's 45, you can get one free of charge.
Yeah, I'm almost due.
I said that Wags was gonna get a fake ID to get it before.
You get turned away at the knockers,
that was pretty fake.
Adam L, I guess our answer is
that we would drink pretty much anything.
So like, you know, whatever. Easy. Yeah, I know, sorry, it's a bad answer, that we would drink pretty much anything. Easy, yeah.
So like, you know, whatever.
Easy.
Yeah, I know, sorry it's a bad answer.
Sorry it's a bad answer.
But it is the truth.
Yeah.
We're gross.
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The Brett DeMott Show with Buddy.
Tell us about the pod and anything else you'd like to plug.
Yeah, so we do a podcast.
It's kind of like a weekly news and current events show
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I play like a 55 year old man.
It's not serious.
It's not serious news. It's goof stuff.
Real goof news, but I guess you could say
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So Mitch did the show a couple weeks ago, was very funny, played a man who had eaten 34,000 hamburgers.
Big Mac. He has the Big Mac.
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buddy who's kind of like the the the weirdo in the show I guess I don't know
the dumb one yeah it's kind of like a play on like a Howard Stern's yeah it's
it's mostly just me yeah the more we do the opinions are the same the more we do the show there is part of me
That's just like why did we choose to do this in wigs because I basically just say what I really think
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we send our guests like a list of articles to pick from, and yours was so funny.
And by the time this comes out, yeah, Nick, you will have...
Well, I heard Weiger's attached.
She's true.
Attached.
Yeah.
It'll happen.
It'll happen.
Yeah.
Ah, fuck, it went to PWH.
Fucking Hauser.
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