Doughboys - Raising Cane's Chicken Fingers with Matt Selman

Episode Date: April 15, 2021

Matt Selman (The Simpsons) returns to talk work lunches, chicken sandwiches, and Raising Cane's. Plus, the debut of Who Had a Cow, Man?Sources for this week's introhttps://www.akc.org/expert-advice/news/labrador-retriever-most-popular-breed-29th-year-row/https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/dog-breeds/labrador-retriever-history-behind-the-breed/https://www.bil-jac.com/the-dog-blog/posts/breed-history-where-did-labrador-retrievers-come-from/https://www.mashed.com/226249/the-unlikely-origin-of-raising-canes-chicken-fingers/https://raisingcanes.com/about-our-founderhttps://raisingcanes.com/why-dogWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Beagle, Golden Retriever, German Shepherd, Poodle. Familiar names dot the list of America's most popular dog breeds, compiled annually by the American Kennel Club. But for 29 consecutive years, likely soon to be 30, one breed has held the top spot, the Labrador Retriever. First bred in the 19th century in Newfoundland, Canada as a fishing dog, the breed's proficiency for hunting and farming tasks made the lab ubiquitous in North America, and its popularity continued as the U.S. shifted from an agrarian to a manufacturing and then a service economy.

And it was a Labrador Retriever that inspired the name of a quixotic passion project of entrepreneur Todd Graves, a restaurant that served only chicken fingers. Graves worked backbreaking jobs as a boiler maker and sockeye salmon fisherman to save the money to launch his business, opened in 1996 in Baton Rouge just steps from Louisiana University. The eatery's simple menu of chicken fingers, fries, coleslaw and Texas toast, served with its signature secret recipe sauce, was a day one hit with a college crowd and rapidly expanded, with Graves' namesake pet Labrador appearing on its signage and serving as its brand ambassador

until the dog's death in 1998. And so in 1999, the moniker was passed to a second Labrador Retriever, who died in 2016 and so a third Labrador now serves as living mascot for the chain's 500 plus locations. And also serves as a symbol of a broader American hierarchy that describes value to animals based on their friendliness and cuteness, dogs for companionship, chicken for meat. This week on Doe Boys, raising Cane's chicken fingers. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host Tamali Ringwald, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell.

Tamali Ringwald? That was from Alex at LameRod from the Dose Gourd, roastspoonmanageemail.com, a new angle. I hadn't seen that angle before, Tamali Ringwald, sure, why not? You hadn't seen Molly Ringwald used as a pun before, is that what you're saying? Here's what I'll say, the note I'll give to anyone who submits to roastspoonmanageemail.com. Coldstone Steve Austin, very funny, we get it every week. So I would, like if you come up with something fresh, like Tamali Ringwald, it's more likely to be read on the show.

Would that be Tamali Ringwald from the Giant Unnecessary Breakfast Club? How the hell to Spoon Nation? Well, my former boss is here looking at me, I feel like a fool. And your current boss, me. All right, here's a drop, hold on. Give me burgers, give me chicken, give me side. Hot salad, hot salad, hot salad, hot salad. But I do think in general, I think some sort of organization is helpful.

Wow. Hmm. Hi, Nick and Mitch. Here's a drop based on Nick's rant about delivery app menu layouts. Yes. Hope you are both doing well, all the best. Kenny G from Somerville. How about that?

My neck of the woods. Yep. I can't be the famous jazz musician, can it? It could be. The soprano Saxmouth himself is submitting a drop? Hmm. Wow. Famous comedian.

Kenny, was he a comedian? No. He's dabbled in comedy. I've worked with Kenny G, a lovely man. Oh boy. What a doer. He did a spot on, he was a panelist on it at midnight when I was a writer over there. You're kind of like the Kenny G of comedy, Wags.

Smooth, easy, inoffensive. No one's really having a good time, but also no one's really complaining. Is he a double reed like you? No, that's a single reed. No, he's a single reed. Sax is a sax. So your single reeds, you got your clarinet and your saxophone. Your double reeds, you got your oboe and your bassoon.

Does that make your blood boil? No, I dabbled in all reeds. I even played a little flute, which doesn't ever read. Any woodwind is up for grabs. Oh, all right. I think the real rivalry is not between the single reeds and the double reeds. It's between the woodwinds and the brass section. Really?

Yeah. The brass section and the woodwinds, they don't like each other? The brass section can get a little brassy. They can be a little like it's, you know, it's more of the, oh, we play the trombone. It's more that kind of energy. Yeah, they seem cooler. It's like, I'm over here playing the clarinet. You know, it's just a little, a little more gentle.

Sounds like the brass section used to fucking kick your guys' asses, am I right? Am I right? I may have been stomped by a few euphonium players. Yeah. All right, introduce our guests. I don't want them waiting around too long. Got things to do. I'm like, I don't want to wait around too long either, because I'm excited to talk

to them returning to the show. Our good friend and executive producer and writer for the Simpsons, Matt Selman is back. Hi, Selman. Hey, guys. Thank you for having me back. Thank you for being here. I'm trying to, I'm trying to think of a full, giant, unnecessary breakfast club of Mitch Names in real time.

It's pretty hard. Yeah. All I have so far is either Fudge Nelson or Pudge Nelson. That's good. That's pretty good. I mean, and then this one's a weird, instead of Anthony, now I'm explaining it, always great. Instead of Anthony Michael Hall, Michael Anthony Hall, in that you resemble the bass player

from Van Halen, Michael Anthony. All right. That's all I got. Allie Sheedy and Emilio Estevez. How about my giant, giant, Emilio Estevez. Okay. There you go. Allie Edie.

Allie Edie. Always Edie. Michael Anthony Mess Hall. Oh, nice. Double it up. Oh, God. You don't like that one, Liger? I've turned into Blaine Capach.

This is like what? This is, I love Blaine. His mind is, he is the best mind for this in the world. Blaine is incredible. Blaine is- An at midnight. Another guy, look at that midnight. Lovely, lovely, hilarious man made me laugh every day, made me cry laughing routinely.

You were crying. His mind for, you know, pun work and was, you know, unbeatable. It's unbelievable. I mean, I hope he can turn it off. I don't think he can. That's the concern. I think that's his genius. Yeah, his curse and his, and his blessing.

Why the fuck hasn't he been on the pod? He should be on the pod. We gotta have him on. Overdue. You fucked up. You're bad. You're bad at booking. Don't put it on me.

You're bad. I would love to have Blaine on. Blaine rules. I'd love to have Blaine on too. All right, let's do it. Let's get him on. I'll read it out. We'll make it happen.

Well, don't turn this at, we look. We've got a great guest here today. Let's have fun with this great guest. Sure, yes, I agree. And we'll figure out, we'll figure out bookings on Future Up, off the pod. But yes, Blaine would be wonderful, delightful man. You could tell him to write a thousand Mitch roasts, and he would do it like he would literally do a thousand for you in real time.

See the thing about at midnight wigs is that you were trying, you were tricking America. Those weren't, these answers weren't thought up on the spot. Mitch, you're not, you're, this is like magician secrets revealed. You're not supposed to do this. You're breaking the comedians code. I won the internet. People are gonna know the comedians were prepped in advance. They worked with writers backstage, that they weren't coming up with these well-crafted

hashtag wars answers off the top of their domes. No one could have those off the top of their domes, except for maybe Blaine it sounds like. I think he is the only person. Blaine can do it. Blaine can be all three panel less. Yeah. You were on at midnight, Mitch. You did a great, you won at midnight.

I won the internet. You won at midnight. Bob was surprised. I remember what had happened and Bob was like writing his own answers. I worked with, friend of the podcast, yeah, friend of the podcast, Jordan Morris. I worked with. That's right. And the panelists, the panel believed this was for the birthday boys IFC show.

It was you, our buddy Mike Hanford from the sloppy boys and the birthday boys and then Bob Odenkirk. Hey, here about, here's some magician secrets revealed. They told me I was getting eliminated first. They said, you're going to go first. And I was like, all right, I don't give a, I don't care. And then we were doing it and they were like, just Hanford's number was lower. Like, I mean, none of it mattered.

But they're like, all right. It's Bob. You somehow defied the odds. And it was like, all right. It's Bob versus Mitch. And then, and then I had heard Bob's answer before the taping and then I knew what my answer was for the final answer. And I was like, I'm going to beat Bob and Bob's going to be mad.

And then I remember like, they were like, Mitch, you won. And Bob was like, all right, we're okay. Well, I got thinking that he loved that he lost. For a completely fake show with no stakes. Yeah. He's a competitive guy. He wants to win. He wants to win.

So is Mitch. He wants to win. So I'm not that competitive. Hmm. I did not want to win the internet, but also I'm damn proud. It's feather in my cap. Hey, speaking of competition, I'm amongst me, Chris Delia. Just there's just the few who are winners of the internet wigs.

Oh boy. Oh boy. Selman speaking of speaking of competition. So we recently wrapped up Munch Madness, the tournament of champions. We covered Pie Noon. We're talking a fried chicken chain today and fried chicken, one of my favorite foods that I cannot eat this year because I'm staying veg. But you recently, you were telling me before we started the show that you had some sort

of convene, some sort of impromptu one man solo fried chicken tournament of your own. I did. I don't know if this is appropriate, but I remember I was so honored to be part of the last fried chicken tournament of sandwich tournament of champions, which was like maybe chicken fight three or four years ago. Yeah. And Chris, I think I ate Wendy's and another one. I think it was.

I picked, I picked something over Wendy's, which Mitch didn't like. So I went to those of them. I've been begging. Let's just be honest about this. I've been begging to be on the back on the show ever since then, and, you know, there's a million people better than me and no one else is begging but me. So it's as producers, you guys made the right choice. It's not true.

It's not true. But this is, this is not true. We actually, we had a plan. Can I, can I, can I say the plan? Sure. Well, we, we, we had, we had a plan to, as a group to go eat at LAX and then. Yes. Pre COVID.

And then that just really fell apart and. That's like the biggest bad thing that happened with this fire, the worst unintended side effect. And Dan Gore was going to join us as well. It was the plan. Yeah. There was four of us were going to go eat at that. Whatever that restaurant, what is it called again?

The, the whatever at LAX, that big, crazy restaurant. We had a really big, we had a big scheme. Elaborate dinner plan that obviously fell apart. But yes, we fell apart. It's overdue having you back on the show. We were happy to have you back, but you had to, so, so you were having. Weigar, time off for a second. Get some fried chicken.

Yeah. Did I say his name right? Is it Chris Delia or Chris Delia? Delia. It's important. It's important to get this right. You don't want to offend that guy. Yeah.

I just knew Weigar would know. Make sure you have that nailed. All right. Great. Yeah. We, we almost went to LAX and fell apart and it was going to be a good, it was going to be a, it was going to be one of those rare good episodes. Why?

Because it was going to be funny. Great. Every episode is great. Gour, and it just feels like everything feels like a lifetime ago, right? We all know that. Right. But so I remember listening to Gour's show that he did, where did he go? He went to a sandwich place.

We, we did a, we, we did a Mexican restaurant. We did Piquito Mas. Right. Piquito Mas. That's right. That's right. I remember burritos. And Dan was kind of hard on Piquito Mas, which we, which made us sad.

That's why he's banned. That's why he has not returned. He's not banned. He picked a place they have work lunch at, which to me, that's like a different animal because you have a different work lunch restaurants you have a whole unique relationship with. I will say this, working, working as, as, as the lunch, as the lunch dude, as the lunch guy. Can I make fun of him for name dropping that bad job he used to have?

As the lunch guy at The Simpsons, I will say that he mentions, he mentions he works at The Simpsons less than, more than I do. As the lunch guy there, I got to say that we, we would go to some great restaurants and we would burn them out so, so, so fast, like places that you really want to go. And Selman, a lot of the first times, this is for real, Selman was, was, Selman was a foodie before foodie was a terrible word that no one wants to be called. Right. Because he, I went to, I went to the, what's it called, the burger, the, that, the big

burger place. The place that sucks now. Umami burger. Umami burger, Jesus. Umami burger I went to because of you, Selman, and then at The Simpsons, I went to Jersey Mike's for the first time. You, you actually, you gave me the number of, I never told you this, but you gave me the number of one in like North, like, like North Hollywood.

It was so far away. I know. I think I heard you talk about this on our YouTube channel. I know. I was mad about it. As a, as a super fan. But, uh, we, we, and Patreon, and Patreon subscriber, by the way, so everyone subscribe to Patreon.

It's great value. All the extra bonus stuff. I, please, God bless you. I'm not begging. I'm not begging. I'm back. They're not even letting new Patreon subscribers in. You'd be lucky.

You'd be, I think we can just get a few more in and get a few more in maybe. And if you hurry, and maybe only at the higher levels at this point, but they are cool. Their spaces are running out. Yeah. You got to act fast. You got to act fast. Right. I'm sorry to, but like, you know, it's a desirable thing to listen to the illusion of scarcity.

Break down the 2000, the 2001 film, How High. That's gonna be a good app. Uh, Selma. Oh my God. I know crazy stuff about that movie. Do you really? Do you? I know guys who did punch up on it.

Well, you, you got to, you got to tell them. I didn't do it, but I'm afraid. The stories have not aged well. Right. You got to tell us post episodes so we can take this info in and pretend it's our own and for the, for, for, we're recording it right after this. But Selma, you, you, you had, you would find the newest, you would find great restaurants. I got to get a credit.

Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Mike. You would, Los Serranada is still, I love, I don't know what their deal is after COVID and everything. I hope they're still doing okay. But. Los Serranada at some point, this was a, this is the Mexican restaurant that's on Pico on the West side.

And there, there may be a couple of them. Los Serranada, at some point, I believe got Gordon Ramsay'd. I could be wrong. Yeah. It did. Yeah. It's, it's a crazy. One of the first places I found, I tried a Mole, I'd never had Mole, I had Mole there

for the first time. But this place. We told him it was dirt gravy and he was like, okay. But this place that would take a very hard place to go to, but which was like a favorite of the Simpsons people. But it is a thing with work lunches where you would just wipe out a place that you really liked. Honestly, right.

A place like that you would, we would still hit like on a weekly or every couple of weeks we'd, we'd go to, but you, you do, you do just destroy people like end up hating like a place like Tender Greens, which I like kind of think is good and fine. And I like it. Or Earth Cafe Wags is a better example. I love Earth Cafe and you worked over at Fun Your Die and you, you were just sick of that place. It's a place that people get sick of.

I've never had it, but I, I, I get the idea. How is that possible? I've just never had it, but I get the idea of, I get the concept like, and especially because it's in LA and the entertainment industry, people are trying to eat very healthy. Oh wait. Well, you did, you've never had it because it wasn't, it's not Earth Cafe I'm thinking of. It's a, it's the one right next to Fun Your Die and I, and I got it wrong.

The, the, Which Fun Your Die. Like there were, there were three different options. Mendocino farms. Okay. Mendocino farms. We've maybe reviewed it on the podcast. I could be wrong.

I love Mendo. Mendo is fine, but yeah, if you have it every week, it starts to get tiring. And yeah, people get, people like to eat healthy. So you end up with the same sort of rotation of like your sweet greens or tender greens of the world. And, and those do get very tiresome and just kind of feel like you're just eating for fuel, not for food, which I guess is fine for a workplace launch. But sometimes you want a fucking big Mac.

But it's, yes, you absolutely can do that. I totally get the principle. I guess what I'm, what, my whole thing with, with work lunches is I've all, I've tried so many times at so many different jobs to be the person who brings lunch from home and I can never sustain it. You do it. You do it. Well, that's the thing.

You like, you do it for a little while, but then the social pressures are just there to like go out and eat with everybody if that's what people are doing or order in, like order the same thing that everyone's having so that you can like eat in that fucking. When have you ever succumbed to social pressure? I feel like you never, you're a guy who never came out to drinks after shows and stuff. You never succumb to that thing. You succumb to, succumb to laziness then. Like it's like, it's, it's like a little bit of work to make your own lunch, even though

it saves a lot of money. And so it's like, I've never been able to stay in that routine. And you eat less if you make your own lunch generally. Yeah, right. Yes, that's huge. Well, all our wishes were granted and now we all get to make our own lunch every day. And we just eat like whatever, I mean, during the beginning, I guess hopefully we're in the sort of end of this endless nightmare, but like the beginning of the end of the nightmare.

But like in the beginning of the pandemic, the speed and efficiency with which I went to like starvation, prepper eating with my family was like like 24 hours. I'm like, like no one gets to eat what they like ever again, we only eat what's going bad first. No, right. If nothing, no, we had to go to 100% food efficiency. So just like whatever was going bad, we had to eat it. That was the moment when I, when I came back with my mom so much, I was eating out so much.

And I, during pandemic, I still got delivery and stuff like that. I was still doing that for a while. Except for like the like month stretch where I just stocked up on, on stuff and then, but I, but I was, I was still eating out a bunch and I got to say that being back, my bank account looks pretty, looks much fatter wigs when, when you're in, I'm not, yeah, there's like one, $2 million in there now after not, where'd that come from? There's not $2 million. There's just, I'm saving like probably $200 a week from, from now.

I mean, not 200, but like at least a hundred bucks a week, right? It can add up. If you're eating out for every dinner or even most dinners and most lunches, I mean, that's, yeah, that's a pretty penny. Now mommy's making me dinner and I'm saving, I'm saving, I'm saving quite a bit. It rules. Are you throwing in for groceries or is mom, is mommy getting all the groceries too? No.

And on the other side of it, her bank account is pretty much at zero right now. She's had to get a terrifying high interest loan to feed Mitch, like she had a third mortgage on the house, like local, local Goombas are coming around threatening her for Mitch's payments. She makes them, she makes them, she makes them good dinners, which is, I don't know, which has been great, but I still will going out for, she, she joined me on this trip to the restaurant today, which was very nice. Wow.

But I do want to touch on this thing you mentioned, Selman, which is, you had a bunch of fried chicken sandwiches or fried chicken, right? So I felt like I'm kind of like, I was honored once when you described me in a text as a kind of like one of your fried chicken guys. And so I, after I went to the restaurant we're going today, I went to three other fried chicken places to do a mini, a mini one man loser tournament of loser chompy hits for a munch madness chicken battle, whatever. And then there's two others I didn't have time to hit.

So I, of the big six, I feel I only hit four. But I don't know, watching me just, we can do an incredibly lame bit where I pretend, I like only me argues against myself and so dumb, so dumb against like we, you rank them and then I, I, you do three, two, one. I don't know. That doesn't probably boring. It's super boring. Don't do that.

I think we, Selman, you know that the thing with the show is that we want to fill as much time as possible. I think that we definitely have to do this. But I want to say how untimely we are as far as chicken fight being when it was, when now this year, every single chain has a chicken sandwich and it would be the perfect time to do that tournament. Yeah. Head of the game and to the point where we fucked up and it doesn't matter.

Well, I think there was a, you know, we could not have possibly anticipated that Popeyes would introduce the chicken sandwich and their chicken sandwich would completely revolutionize the sector. But it was the Popeyes chicken sandwich, one of the ones that you tasted Selman. It was. What was the full roster? The full roster was, um, and please don't judge me. You know I'm a good guy, Chick-fil-A.

Mm-hmm. Thou shall not judge you. Jesus Christ. Did you see that text that you were canceled? That would be certainly something else. It's from Chris Delea. Welcome to the club. No, it's always scary when you get a incredibly long voice message from Jim Brooks.

Oh, God. Wow. Watch Spanglish. Why are you pushing Spanglish? Um, no, I'm sure. I'm peacock right now. I think he's, he's, we collaborate well together. Um, yes.

What was the question? Sorry. So you had the Popeyes fried chicken sandwich, you were the Chick-fil-A one. Popeyes, Chick-fil-A, KFC, and then Raisin Canes. Wow. So I did not, I did not hit the new Burger King or McDonald's yet. So were you having just chicken sandwiches or were you having like, like just any other, anything goes?

Well, I listened to your, your Phil Rosenthal chicken episode, which was a great episode. And I, I did hit the sandwich at all the places, but then as a, maybe as a side note, and I don't know if this is something worth saving. No, nothing is worth saving. Um, the, the bite of the day, the bite of the, of the bite of the tournament was well cooked KFC original recipe on the bone breast. Wow. Wow.

That is surprising. I mean, I love chicken fried chicken sandwiches. America loves fried chicken sandwiches. It's very funny you say that cause my mom said something very similar, but there's something in that bizarro mixture of chemical herbs and spices and that is crazy pressure cooking system they have that if you have a nice KFC original recipe breast is like, there's just something about it that it's something about the bone. I don't know how the bone unlocks awesomeness.

What's the difference? It's, it's, it's animal, it's day. It's dead animal flesh. No matter how you look at it, but there's just something about fried chicken on the bone that has so much more flavor and, and resonance as a, as a chicken eater. I don't know. I'd bet some food, a science expert, your Alton Browns, your J. Kenji Lopez alts of the world probably has some explanation for why the bone is helpful.

I like bone in cause it's cause I like the experience of eating it off the bone, but I also feel like it tends to retain like a little bit more moisture. I couldn't be wrong. And I also think a little bit more fat, like the fat can sometimes be stripped away when you're deboning, but I, but yeah, that's, it's, it's, it's just a whole piece of meat. It's just, it's not, it's not super processed. That's interesting though, that sword above all the, the sandwiches of the world. I mean, I guess, yeah, for me, so like the winner of my one man loser chicken, Tompion

battle was not a sandwich at all, but a piece, just a classic KFC, you know, but I mean, obviously, you know, everyone KFC can, you can get a bad piece and it's gross, but a good, a well-cooked KFC is, is, um, there's just something special about it. I don't know. I don't know. I'll usually, I think a lot of this could probably links to, you know, what, what you're, where you're from or what you had growing up. I'll always lean towards Popeyes.

I feel like the default Popeyes fried chicken is going to be a little better, but you can definitely get a very toothsome piece from, from KFC if it's done right. What are you going to say, Mitch? Someone, where, where did, where did Chick-fil-A rank for you? Great question. Well, they all, I'll say all, all four places ranked very high on the, on the diarrhea the next day scale. So congratulations to all the entrants.

I don't know how to fight it. I don't know how to quantify quite the victor, but, um, you know, another huge component of this, of this sector of this burgeoning sector is, uh, how quickly you eat it once you buy it. Right. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, that's huge.

I mean, that's like the dirty little secret. They're not dirty. It's the clean secret out of the obvious secret, the non-secret of the fried chicken sandwiches, it's so much better eaten right away. Hmm. It's just, and even like the, the 20 minutes in the car or the door dash or whatever, the chicken sandwich is going to suffer. Right.

So the, the, the, the Chick-fil-A was very strong. Wow. Also, I'll say about Chick-fil-A, like they have a spice blend. Am I wrong? They have a spice blend in the batter, right? Yes. I believe it's seasoned where no one else ever knows this adds a spicy mayonnaise. Right.

So the KFC, it's just, it's just the, the bun and the, and the pickles and the, and the breasts and McDonald's, which I didn't have, but also, and KFC and, I mean, his Popeyes does have spicy chicken. So that's also seasoned in the. Unfortunately, the more you like the Chick-fil-A, the more canceled you are. So the next, the next, the next sandwich you'll be eating is probably going to be at the Cloak and Dagger. What is that?

The Thomas Middle Ditch sex. Yeah. Mitch is on referencing the Cloak and Dagger club kick. I, someone, I had the McDonald's chicken sandwich and I had the KFC chicken sandwich, the new one. Here's the, here's how you'll, here's how you'll know that you're having one of the new chicken sandwiches. If you're confused at all, it will come in a little bag.

All of them now come in the little, the foil bag. They don't want to, they don't want to come in the foil bag is the deal. So I've had, I've had the, I've had the one, which the Wendy's one actually might be the one that's just, actually, I think that's in a foil bag too, but I think it might be wrapped, but I had the KFC, McDonald's, Wendy's. I've had like all the fast, I've tried all the fast food chicken sandwiches. And to me, the KFC one is maybe one of the best of the besides, besides Popeyes. I'm not including Popeyes in this because Popeyes, I do think is number one.

Right. But KFC of all like the, of all the other places that, that copied Popeyes, the KFC one was good. I'm interested to try Popeyes. It was, I mean, I was, I actually, I got the, went to the Slosson Popeyes, like, like 48th and Slosson, or as I call it, Cole Slosson, L.A., L.A. street pun, Blaine, Blaine, Blaine Capac, food, street pun. And just by the time I got home, the Popeyes was so soggy, I couldn't,

I just didn't have them. I should have eaten it in the car. Yes. But I was, but I did, my, the family was waiting for their Popeyes. That's to, to your, but your, your point is absolutely correct. Like oftentimes, and it was the case with this week's chain, even though I didn't get chicken, I'm just like, I'm going to park and I'm going to eat this immediately.

I'm not going to drive 40 minutes home. I did the same exact thing. I did the same. We pulled over. We ate in front of the restaurant, like monsters. Uh, I did this. I also pulled over for the, for the. Hey, she's vaping.

She's vaping. Emma's vaping. Emma. Busted. Just saying. It's fine. It's fine. Oh my God.

It's just got real. If you're a guest on the Doughboy show, uh, and you, uh, you nail Emma when she's vaping, um, I will reward you with a busted. So just keep that in mind. Fair enough. Wise. I thought you were just declaring that you busted yourself. All right.

How many times, how many times has Natalie heard busted? All right. We'll take a break. We'll be back with more Doughboys. Welcome back to Doughboys. We are here with Matt Selman, our unofficial fried chicken correspondent, discussing Raising Canes, officially Raising Canes chicken fingers founded by Todd Graves and Craig Sylvie in 1996 near the campus of LSU.

There's also a UGA University of Georgia element to them. My nephew's UGA students and, um, I've been to Athens campus school place. I like to think there's a Raising Canes, uh, go dogs, uh, connection. I think there is for sure because, you know, the, the Georgia mascot is a bulldog, an actual bulldog. It's a living mass mascot. And it's the same thing with Raising Canes. Uh, the mascot is a yellow lab named Raising Cane.

They are now up to Raising Cane the third due to the short lifespan of dogs. Um, I, and the, there is a, the, I think the Georgia connection is Todd Graves went to the University of Georgia. Craig Sylvie went to the, to LSU and they opened it near. Sylvie weirdly has been retconned out of existence on the corporate website, but he's there in other histories. Oh, he's like them. He's like the, the McDonald's.

He's like the Ray Kroc to the other guys, the Ray Kroc and the McDonald's brother. He's like the Roger Avery in the QT, uh, verse. Um, and there's a, the, the mean, the menu is very simple. It's just chicken fingers and sides. I will say, and I'm going to let you guys kind of drive this because, you know, this is 2021, no meat shall I eat. I'm, I'm staying veg all year. That the app is pretty good though.

Like, like I was like, I ordered through the app to for, for pickup. Um, I like, I pull, I did a move where like it was about, I went to the Torrance location, which is about a 30 minute drive from where I live. So like halfway through, I pulled over, put, put in my order and then got back in the car and then, and then drove the rest of the way. So it was like pretty much, and it still wasn't even ready when I got there. So I, what I had was pretty fresh. You were basically, you're basically just doing app reviews this year.

That is, that's all you're, you're basically just reviewing every app. This is useful to know. That is useful to know. But the app is very good in terms of customizing your order and you can do it for pickup, uh, at the drive through or in store. How come there isn't a Doughboys app itself for Doughboys? And then we could, and I mean, I guess, when are we going to talk about Doughboys NFTs also? Cause we got to, you know, that just let's do that.

That'll be for the exclusive, whatever. Yeah. By the way, Patreon people, you can, we don't have a lot of slots left, but if you want to get on this NFT Doughboy sales, I mean, there's like incredible, the prices for these non-fungible tokens of like those images are going, they're going crazy. And I think if you get in now, I mean, maybe we can fit you in. I don't know.

I'll have to talk to some people. It'll be a clip of Mitch, uh, with the, the first no peaking, like it'll be just like a still of Mitch. And then the audio from the first time he told the no peaking anecdote will be underneath it. And it'll be auctioned for like $12,000. You know what I think? You know what I think it's going to bring in some good numbers, Wags? Yeah.

Busted. So this place is all about chicken fingers and, uh, tenders, tendies, call them what you like. Tenders. Mitch, Selman, tell us about the chicken. How is the chicken? Why do you want to go? You want to go first? You make you go first.

I would love to go first. Well, Selman, so you told us that we, we had to do this place and have we heard about it. And we actually, there have been a couple of people that we've had on, uh, that have, have loved, uh, Raisin Canes. Marcy Jarrell, I believe are a great Doughboys guest. I believe worked there. Our buddy Van Roby show is from Louisiana has a fondness for it. Yeah.

They might be mad at us for this episode. They definitely are mad at us. Sorry. Sorry. We'll do Raisin Canes month at some point. How about a tournament of all Raisin Canes champions? We just pit different locations against each other. Now, when I heard Raisin Canes, of course immediately I was scared because I was thinking

of the John Lithgow movie, uh, right, but it's spelled differently. C-A-I-N. Have you ever seen Raisin Cane, Wiger, the Lithgow movie? Uh, yeah, I have actually. That was one of the, one of the movies my parents weirdly owned on VHS. I never understood why. But this place, let me tell you, I, I had been hyped up going into it and, and the, you know, the chicken sandwich wars and, you know, fried chicken is,

we're almost, we're about to come out of it. I think we're coming out of the chicken sandwich wars. There's going to be a new thing at some point soon. Euros or something, something's happening. We're, oh, Euros is a good call. It's going to, it's going to change over. Euros, Euros will be next. But, um, but.

Giant pickles you cut with a bread knife. That could just be giant pickles. Giant pickles. You just slice, you slice with a knife. And then it fills your whole plate. You eat it like a steak. That, that, that, that could be it. I mean, you, you have predicted, you predicted the rise,

you predicted the rise of the burger. So, of the burger, I did, I called it. No one else knew about this. The gastropub, the gastropub, high class, high end burger, which was, you know, at fancy restaurants and then bled its way into fast food. And chain restaurants, sit down chains. I wonder if there will be like a, because, you know, it's always like the, the kind of, uh, the, you know, kind of the mainstream becomes like the,

the elevated version. And then that becomes like the new version of the mainstream version. We saw that happen with the burger and the chicken sandwich. I wonder if we could see something with like a McRib type sandwich, like some sort of like, like a barbecue pork sandwich, if that's maybe what we, what could be on the horizon. Well, I got to say this about, I think that that might be too hard because I think that with barbecue, it's just that thing of like,

yes, it's, it's, it's true. The chicken sandwich is just simple. And a burger is, a burger is pretty simple. It's just a, it's just a, you can get it and you can eat it in your car and, and it's in a, and it's just, it's easy to consume and whatever. And it's classic. And I got to say this about raisin canes. It is just a very stripped down, very simple menu.

There's, there's not that much you can even really order. Um, and, and I, I think that it lives up to the hype plagues. Wow. I had a bite of this. My mom said, so I, I had, my mom and I drove over, we went to the, the only raisin canes that's nearest, which is, which is near BU. It's, it's on Commonwealth Avenue and it's, and it's, and it's, it's a comm av, a far way down.

Emma and I were talking about it before this, but uh, it's, it used to be a McDonald's. Daniel told me that he hates it because it used to be a McDonald's and it made him mad because it was a good McDonald's. But, uh, but it's, it's right in the BU area. I drove over there. There were a lot of young college kids that made me feel old. There were, there were a lot of kids running around there and a lot of them

went in there to, to, to get some raisin canes. It was, it was, it was packed with college kids when I was there. I blended in pretty easily, but um, I, uh, I ordered the Caniac Combo Wags. Should I, should I just get into what I got? Please, please do it. Am I early? It feels early.

No, no. Not at all. After the break is when we get into the food. We got these two breaks now. We got the whole NFT combo after this. We're gonna, I'm gonna break it down. We got Dogecoin, Ethereum. I got, I got takes on all the crypto.

Ooh, Dogecoin. What do you think about Cardano? It's the new one on the scene. Oh yeah. It doesn't like it, it seems. It's certainly not. None of this is certainly ever gonna destroy the world. We know that.

Well, I got myself, I got the, uh, the Caniac Combo, which is, you know, canes, which is, you know, raising canes. It's the Caniac Combo. First of all, the, the, uh, the woman who was working behind the counter was extremely nice young, probably a college student. I have no idea, but she was very nice. And I was trying to tell her my name.

And I had, I was double masking. Well, I, I double, I've double masked. Anytime I go into a, a restaurant or a store, anything to pick anything up. And, uh, and there was a big communication break. And I went, I said Mitchell for some reason. She was like, what's your name? And I said Mitchell.

And then she, there was a big communication breakdown. She was laughing at me and I was like spelling out my name. It was just a disaster. But I said, I want the Caniac Combo, which is six chicken fingers, crinkle cut fries, two cane sauces, which we'll get, we'll of course talk about the sauce, Texas, Texas toast, coleslaw and a large fountain drink or, or tea,

sweet tea or tea and I, or lemonade. And I think they combo, they, uh, it's a big combo, but my mom was there too. So I got the, I got the lemonade with that drink because they make their own lemonade in house. Um, and I also asked, I said, can you get a sandwich on its own? Because I don't, I don't know how it works here.

I was like, is it just combos? Cause basically everything they list is kind of just combo based. Yes. And I was like, can I get the chicken sandwich by itself? And she's like, of course. And so I got the chicken sandwich as well to try that out. Uh, I also got myself some ketchup and some hot sauce to go along with that. But they do have Heinz ketchup, by the way.

They do have Heinz ketchup. They have dippable, dippable hot, the thing that felt like the ketchup of the future, which Wendy's was doing for a while, the, the, the Heinz ketchup that you can, you can open up and dip into or you can squeeze out. Now I don't know what these are. I love them too.

I don't know if they're environmentally soundwags, but they are, they, they, they are very handy if you're eating in your car, which my mom and I were about to do. So I got a few of those. Definitely less destructive than NFTs at least. Yes. And they're Louie, Louisiana hot sauce. Um, I bit into that sandwich first.

The sandwich almost says, I almost wouldn't suggest getting the sandwich because it is just the chicken fingers with lettuce on a bun and the sauce. There's like not much to it. But from that first bite, I was like, damn, these tenders are juicy. There's no, why is you're not going to bite into any bone here, but the juice is, the juice is loose still. The juice is still loose within these, in these, in these tenders because they were just juicy and crisp and felt a little bit lighter.

That was my mom's, my mom's thought about it. She's like, this just doesn't feel as heavy as Popeye. She liked it better than Popeye. She liked the chicken sandwich better than Popeye's chicken sandwich. And so we were, we really enjoyed it. But for me, once, once I got into those tenders, that's where I was, I was really happy. And I was happy that we were parked right in front of this Raisin Canes because, or to the side of it really, even though the college people were gawking at us

and, and thought I was a weirdo with his mother eating these chicken tenders in the car. I looked like a monster. Why is that cool? Why is that cool college kid eating with his mom? We should all be doing this. This is cool. I think that guy must row crew. Oh, he definitely rows crew.

Hey, why aren't you with us crew guys? You know what, Solomon? I actually saw, but I saw some rowers as I was, as I was taking a, taking the right towards, towards comm app. Yeah. I saw some, some rowers on the Charles River. Why? Cause they were, they were rowing down the river.

I think if I was in a, if I was in a boat now, it would be, there would be some problems. I don't know if, massive, massive Charles River flooding. I just thought I would stew as canal situation at the Charles River. The chew as canal and can patch. I think I would shoot the coxswain out of the boat like a fucking. But I, but I, uh, we saw, yeah, we saw some rowers, some, some young rowers. And, uh, and, uh, we, we, we went over there. We ate, we, we were eating this and we were having, we were having a blast.

Why? Cause it was, I thought the chicken tenders were very, very tasty. The Texas toast was delicious. And I'm not like a Texas toast guy. That's not like a big thing in Massachusetts to have Texas toast. It's not like a normal side, but it was fun to eat it on its own. It was buttery and delicious. And then also to wrap up a little chicken finger and dip it in the, and dip it in the sauce.

My mom, my mom, who's a bit of a, uh, uh, coleslaw snob. She was enjoying the coleslaw. She thought it was very good. Head and shoulders above the, the KFC coleslaw, which I had recently. It was just, it was, it was much better. Interesting. You know what? I read on the KFC website that KFC hand dices, all their coleslaw on location.

If that's true, that is a giant waste of time and resources. Yeah. Because it does not taste. And probably, and probably a huge exposure to food-based contaminants unnecessarily. Let's make it in a factory, send it to the KFC. That's probably what they do. That website was lying. I mean, if you told me that Keynes was doing that though, I would believe it

because it is crunchy and it's very good. Well, Keynes claims that they make it daily. They make their coleslaw daily in-house and they also, they also, you know, they, they're very up front about they use always fresh, never frozen Wendy style chicken. And they, they bread and fry it to order. Well, it makes sense. You can taste it. It tastes, it's juicy.

It tastes fresh. It tastes like, like my mom said, it just tasted lighter than Popeyes. She liked it better than Popeyes. I was, I was having a great time with it. I used some of that Louisiana hot sauce. I did those critical cut fries into the, into the, the ketchup. And honestly, everything was good. There wasn't a thing that was bad.

I had, I had no critique where I was like, this isn't good. The lemonade, when I first tried it, I was like, hmm, this is store made lemonade. It's not my favorite. It's a little sweet. And then as I went along, I really enjoyed the lemonade too. I mean, everything was just, was working. And I got to say this too, it looks like a fun place to eat. If, if, if BU was up and, and running like usual, it seems like it will be a fun place

to kind of go in and hang out and have a meal. So, right. I got to just say it, it knocked it out of the park. I was right near Fenway Wags and I got, it was a home run. Wow. Over the monster. Let me, let me ask you this real quick, Mitch. Did you, like, how was the seasoning, like, how was the breading?

Like, cause you talked to, you commented on the tenderness and the juiciness of the chicken, but how was the, the, the coating of it? The coating of it was like, was, was light. It was, it was, it was, it was light, but thick enough that it didn't like, wasn't completely falling off or anything. It was, it was, it was kind of, it was kind of perfect. I, I, it was great. It was great.

And Nick, as a former BU student, I took one summer class there. I was pretty proud to have it in, if you, if you were a college student, you had this right near your neck of the woods. It would be my go-to spot. It was fantastic. What class did you take? Oh, no. Uh, intro to chicken fingers.

So in your experience at, at Raising Gaines. Well, I, I gotta say, I, a lot of what Mitch is saying, jibes, that's right. It jibes with what my experience was. Wow. You know, I drove to the Hawthorne location in Torrance. And it was interesting because it was kind of like, it was sort of like a road of sad old chains that aren't like the hottest chains, like Del Taco, No Offense.

Oh boy. Uh, um, you know, El Puebloco, Sizzler, Cocos, like a lot of Boston market. I didn't even know that existed. I mean, there's some okay ones too. So I'm driving down there and I'm like, I know the reputation of this place. The reason I'm excited is like, this is kind of like the in and out of chicken fingers restaurants, small menu, super devoted fan following. Kind of a, you know, kind of a phenomenon.

Like I want to know what the whole, I want to experience the experience of the frenzy. So I purposely went at prime time, which was like 5 30 on a Saturday night. Wow. And I wanted to let, I want to let your listenership and your Patreon listenership, I don't want to leave out any details. And so I got there at 5 34 and the line was one of those situations where like, you saw the line and kind of had to drive around the block just to get into the

line in the right way. Oh no. Cause I, you know what I mean? I would never cut in less. That would be, was there, was there a drive-through summon? Yes. So I was doing the drive-through. Oh, wow.

There was no, there was no drive-through at my location. I will say that. There was a drive-through. I mean, you know, it's so cow living, right, Nick? Hell yeah. So, so, um, Jesus did, but like clearly this place is so popular. They had made, they had made custom signs to ask people in line to be courteous of the driveways of other people, including a sign reading, please do not block

South Bay Montessori driveway, but like with the logo, like a nice sign, like a nice sign saying leave this driveway open. So it's a considerate, they're being considerate to their neighbors, their educational neighbors in the Montessori community. Um, so got in line 534, not in a rush, listened into an audio book, give them, get the food at 623. That's like almost 40. But I'm not in a hurry.

I'm, I know, I knew what I was in for. Saturday night, 530, Torrance, baby. They're not fucking around. And uh, The swinger's outtake. It does. Yeah. By the way, if I, okay, Patreon listeners,

if you're, I have a great takedown of the movie chef, by the way, well, we can save that for later or edit it out. Oh, I love it. Yeah, I would love, I would, I would love to, we should review it. Though I don't know what flaws you could find in a movie where John Favreau, that John Favreau wrote directed in Stars and where he is the center of a love triangle between himself, Scarlett Johansson and Sophia Vergara. Okay, that's sort of the, that's sort of the logline of the, of the takedown.

Okay. Not, not, not, not, okay, here it goes. Not only that, but like Robert Downey Jr. plays the husband of his ex-wife, Sophia Vergara, who's still in love with him, who also thinks he's the coolest guy in the world. Yes. Um, the premise of the movie is that he, he himself makes a Cuban sandwich food truck that he takes the recipe from his Cuban friend, John Leguizamo. He becomes a Cuban restaurateur somehow.

Right. And Leguizamo is cool with this? He's so cool with it. The attitude of every character in the movie is you're the greatest chef in the world, sort of like, swingers, like you just don't know how great you are. That's his arc, having people telling him he's great, going to realizing how great he is. And the one person who doesn't like him is the food critic, Dustin Hoffman or, I don't know who, I don't know who plays Oliver Platt, one of those guys.

And by the end, by the end of the movie, that guy is co-opening a restaurant with him. Yes. Oh my God. And then in the post-credits sequence, he sucks him off to completion. It's, it's, it's an odd movie. Also, you can kind of tell because like Robert Downey Jr. is in it and it's clearly a favor because the way his coverage is shot, he's like, like they're clearly using a body double for all of his reverses.

They just had him for like an hour just to shoot his side of the dialogue. And then he got the fuck out of there. And then they were just shooting over some, a stunt double shoulder. I got no problems with, with John Favreau. No, no, he's great. I like Favreau. I'm angling to get a, a gemmary and guard role in, in Mandalorian. Mitch is the only guy they had to ask to lose weight to play a gemmary and guard.

Sorry. You know, guys, soon fat jokes are going to be a thing of the past. So we might as well get him, get him in under the, under the wire. Probably might, in fact, it might have already happened. But, um, yeah, you're, you're, you got to head to Cloak and Dagger. It's over. Cloak and Dagger. I, I, I did, I, you know what?

I'll say it on here. I auditioned for, uh, I got to audition for a star war. I auditioned for, uh, it's not cool to say you auditioned for something when you don't get it, right? That's not a fun thing. No, uh, but it was, I auditioned for a bad guy for, for the Obi-Wan show. And I, and I think that it would have been a prosthetic. I think it maybe would have been a some sort.

I think they would have made me a pig man in some way. I'm sure they would have. Well, there's a lot of comedians and in the Favreau Star Trek star wars a verse. There's a lot of funny, you know, people. So I, you know, I think they'll probably keep you on their go-to list. I think that I think, I think sadly that most shows I would audition for, they would just decide to dress me up as a pig man, no matter what, whether it's in the Star Wars universe.

Right, right. You're doing a episode of CBS's mom. I auditioned for a, a droid voice and they said I wasn't human enough. There you go. There he is. So yeah, the, the, you mentioned in an outburger and I, that was absolutely the comparison that I had in my head when I visited this exact same location on a Sunday at around lunchtime, which was also a very happening hoppin, you know, time to be at

Raising Canes, the drive-through line curling around the block. It was like, it was, it was wild how far it was stretching back. It reminded me of an outburger. And yes, the driveway signage, they had one driveway that was blocked off as exit only, just because there was no way to manage the traffic for people who are parking for, you know, not dining in, but dining at the outside tables or, or just picking up, which is what I was doing. It was, it was madness.

And I was, I was astonished by how popular it was. So yeah, this, and it is fun to go to a place with that in and out. Everyone's excited to be there. You know, they're, they're, they don't mind waiting. Like, and then, you know, they were, I think they took a page from In-N-Out's book. Do they have a book where, you know, they have the people kind of with you in line, giving you a menu, you know, taking your, you know, iPads and getting the menus in early. So getting the orders in early.

And you know, all the, and all the employees did also look to be having fun, which is something I always look for in a fast food place. And you usually see that at In-N-Out as well, that there's kind of a good convivial spirit with the workers. Yes. You know, oddly, I didn't, there were people in there, but I did not have a, I also went during the day. It was like 2.30 maybe on, on a, on a Friday.

So I, or not a Friday on a, whatever, Saturday. So it was not, it was not that crazy. But, but enough people in there. And, but they also, they moved pretty quick. Why is like, I thought my order would take a while. It did not take long at all. Yeah. They seem to have a good system for, you know, and for people who are ordering there,

people who are picking up from the app as I was, and then the dry, it seemed all very, very well organized, which is, you know, Jesus Christ. I was there yesterday and in my head, I just said on a Saturday. It was there yesterday. It was a Monday. I was there 2.30 on a Monday. We're recording on Tuesday, yeah.

Let me, let me, I told you that there was a little miscommunication with how I was spelling my name. And this is, this is the end product. A mid, a midge communication. There was a, there was a midge communication. And that is, that is how, that's how, that's how my name ended up on the, on the cup. Mitch shared his cup. And it, it is Michia L, M-I-T-C-H-I-A, space capital L.

Look at those hearts. They drew hearts in there. Because we were getting along and I knew that I fucked up. I maybe actually spelt it that way to her. I think I, I think I fucked that up. Forgot how to spell your name. You just panicked. Wicks, there's something we got to talk about here.

And Selman, I was saving it for you. Well, should I, should I do my quick review first? I do, I do want to hear your thoughts on the food. Yes. But I'm happy to do it anytime. Well, I want you to include this, the sauce. We have to talk about the sauce. The sauce.

Okay. It's important to talk about. Okay. Well, I completely agree with Mitch in his assessment of food. I do, they, they, apparently they only use that strip of the chicken breast, which is the kind of the natural tender. Like it's not the big main chunk of the chicken breast that they make, like the fried chicken sandwich out of at a Wendy's or whatever.

And it did, I would say it did have a nice fry, a really nice fry. And the batter is not too heavy. I would say it almost has a tempura-like quality. And so it's, it's a, man. I'm just thinking about how bad mine sucks. Everyone says I just say it's good. If you had said tempura first, I was going to fucking kill myself. I got the sandwich and whatever, one of the, a bunch of, a bunch of the tenders and the fries.

There's nothing else to get. The sandwich is just the, is just the, the tenders in a bun. But I mean, to me, the bite of the day was the tender and the toast, making a sandwich with the toast as the bread. Someone that might get my bite of the night is what I, but you know what? It was daytime. So, uh, did we have an alt for that lags? Where's blank patch?

Um, no, Blaine. Eat of the week. Eat of the week. Is that what you said? Yeah. Eat of the week. God, you must have disappointed Blaine so much in that room. Jesus.

Just taking my laptop out of my hands, just fixing my work for, for me. Ha, ha, ha, ha, that, that, for me, Zelman, I think that is, that for me is probably the same thing that buttery, that buttery Texas toast. Texas toast is good. It's so good. And this, again, like I'm going to repeat myself, if you're going to go to raising canes or any of these places, just pull over and eat it. Yes.

Don't go anywhere. Don't, the 20 minutes I feel would be a disaster. 100%. With this place. And again, that's, that's just the nature of fried food. And it's fresh fried. There's no, there's no magical super fry that can, that, that someone could invent that then half an hour later is going to be good.

So anytime you go to eat fried food, you should eat it sadly by yourself in Hawthorne, pulled over in a neighborhood, or with your, or with your actual friends in the restaurant. I mean, if you're going to indulge with fried food, that's my takeaway for everyone, based on eating these four world destroying sandwich restaurant foods is, if you're going to get fried food, just eat the fried food right away. Don't wait to eat it. Otherwise don't get, otherwise don't get fried food. You can, because a burger will travel.

Other than a lot of foods will travel. Yeah. For me, it was like a 23 to 25 minute ride back to my house in Quincy. And I, it just would have, it would have, the food would not have been nearly as good. It would have, it would have, it would have taken it down where, where I'm leaning pretty high on the score right now. Wow. But it was great.

Why is it was great? And I, and to get to the sauce, I think the sauce is fantastic. And I think that is a big part of it. Yes. Is that the sauce has, the sauce has to be good. Well, the sauce was so much of my experience. And, and for those of you who haven't had the sauce, it's kind of, you know, it's like a pink, so a thinner than a Chick-fil-A sauce, but kind of similar in, in composition.

The, the recipe is top secret, but it's been leaked as some combination of mayo, ketchup, garlic, salt, Worcester and black pepper. And there was a lot of black pepper in it. I thought there was maybe some cayenne or something to kick it up, because it does have a little bit of spice, but I guess it's just got that much black pepper. Yeah. I mean, it's not overly sweet, unlike most sauces. So that's a nice change of pace.

Mm-hmm. I'll just say, I thought the sauce was great. I really liked it. And I, and the sauce, you know, it was, it was unique. I like the little bit of a, of a kick, because I am something of a heat seeker. And I thought it worked well with the crinkle cut fries. And I thought it worked well with the Texas toast. I needed something to dip that Texas toast in, because just having it by its lonesome

was a little bit plain. But as a, as a sauce supper, I got, here's what I got. I got everything that's not chicken. I got crinkle cut fries. I got the coleslaw. I got the Texas toast. And I got the cane sauce. And then I also got the, the, I got myself a drink.

Half sweet tea, half unsweetened tea. I ordered on the app. I went there. They handed me a cup to fill my own drink, which I have not done in like a year. I have not been in a situation where I could use the soda found on my own in so long, even at 7-Eleven. They'll just like, they will fill this delivery up for me, or the big gulp up for me for hygienic reasons.

This location in Hawthorne, I guess they were like, all bets are off. Wow. Yeah. Sounds dangerous. So, I mean, I was scared, scared for my life. Did you, did you just do a 50-50 mix yourself? I did a 50-50 mix myself, myself, and I'll say this. So the sweet tea is made with cane sugar.

I like, and I can't believe I haven't come up with this on my own before seeing it in the, the Raising Canes app as an option. The idea of having, because oftentimes sweet tea is just too sweet for me. Just like a whole lemonade is a little too sweet for me. It's why I invented the Nick Weiger, which is a third lemonade and two-thirds iced tea. But the half sweet tea, half unsweetened tea, it was good quality tea, and this was nicely balanced where it wasn't punishingly sweet. And I thought it was a great accompaniment.

I really, I, you know, I like the fries. The fries were clearly fresh. They were a little under-seasoned, but, you know, because you have the sauce, that, that, that does a lot of work. Gotta, gotta give a shout out to the ice in that drink, too. They have some nice crushed ice. They do have quality ice there, yeah. They have like a pill of ice.

A Patreon-only show where you just review the ice at restaurants? We actually sadly have done an ice episode. It's been done, yeah. We did an ice episode. Nice. And the guest we booked, Jackie, did not like ice, so we completely fucked it up. Now, why is, is there not like a grilled cheese sandwich sort of deal there or what? No, they don't have anything.

They don't, you would think that they maybe have like a Texas toast grilled cheese sandwich or something, but no, they, it's, it's a very unfriendly to vegetarian place. Like if someone was going to Raising Canes, if the, if the lunch group was going to Raising Canes, I would get my own lunch. I would hopefully have brought my lunch from home that day. Well, it's also, it's a very simple, like I said, it's, it's like a, it's like an early McDonald's menu or something where it is like, here are the, here are the things we have, and that's it.

That's what you get. And I kind of appreciate it in some ways. Oh, I love a streamlined menu. Simplify. We mentioned Gordon Ramsay earlier. That's a Gordon Ramsay principle. Get your, get your menu down to what you do best. And that seems like they're.

Just do one thing well. Exactly. That seems like what they're doing. 100%. But no, did you, did you even, did you, were you even able to order a vegetarian or did you have to order chicken and throw it away? No, you can order it. You can order the sides all a cart.

At least in the app. And I'm sure in store. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure they thought I was out of my mind that I was going to go to all this trouble just to get their fries and their coleslaw, but hey, it was, it was an exercise. I mean, would you say that the fries were okay, but like in and out a little bit like maybe their Achilles heel as well.

They're not the star of the show. I don't think, but I think, I think I do think that they're good. I like a, I like crinkle cup, but like, I think there's only a, to a certain point where crinkle cut can be good. And then that's it. Like I feel like other fries like McDonald's fries. Why is we talked about it are perfect. They won the tournament.

McDonald's fries won the tournament. And I think that there's like, you can have different tastes with regular fries and then crinkle cut fries always kind of just taste similar to me up to a certain point. I love crinkle cut. You know, Del Taco was, what's mentioned earlier in Del Taco, I think does the best crinkle cut fry. Shake Shack does a good crinkle cut. I think they do a good crinkle cut here.

And I will say that they were, they were clearly freshly fried. They were piping hot. They, they were kind of soft in the middle. They were crispy on the outside. My only critique was that I, I agree that they're not the star of the show, but my only real critique was that critique is I think they could have used some more salt. Yeah. I mean, overall seasoning might be an issue at this restaurant that they tend to under season.

Also the tenders were a little bland, although there was a beautiful tempura like fry if we was established. I mean, I tried to engage the Raising Canes Twitter feed to get a little bit of feedback as whether they would consider a spicy tender with a spicy batter. Oh, that'd be fun. No response. They ghosted me. Oh my God.

Were you blocked? They, they ghosted me. Yeah, they blocked me. I mean, or even like a spice powder that they could like, shake on top. I feel again, if they said something that they innovated, I think nicely with the sauce being a not traditional, super sweet, overpowering sauce, maybe they could do something in the spice area would be nice, but no, no, no, no, no feedback on that. Wow.

Well, maybe that's losing some points for them then. They sound a little stubborn wigs. Yeah. Could be, though again, you know, they are, they are have a, they have a streamlined, efficient business model and then that's what they're going for. You know, but like what in and out has that Raising Canes doesn't have to my knowledge, which I'm going to, if anyone at Raising Canes is listening to this, a secret menu, you know, you have a solid, small menu, things you do excellent, devoted fan base,

people, it's a kind of an experience to go there just like in and out. But then there's these things that make you feel like you're in the club, the Copenhagen club. And so, you know, what if there is like a secret, a secret spicy salt or a wacky sandwich you can make or a fries chicken combo with some kind of mystery goo that they don't have or use the sauce on sauce nachos. I don't know. Right.

Everyone loves to feel like they're part of a secret thing. Cloak and butter. And also that from a vegetarian perspective, that could help because in and outs, the grilled cheese you can get in and out burger, which is a great sandwich. I actually really like it. I get it. I've gotten it with some frequency this year is on their secret menu. But if you get it again, you know, if you're going with a bunch of people in

and out burger, if that's the place you can get you and you're not eating meat, you have an option. Yeah. I mean, everyone loves a secret. It's true. Well, we should get to our final thoughts on Raising Canes. So, Selman, you've been on the show before. You know how this works. We'll each go around, give a closing argument, if you will, and end by giving it a score

from zero to five forks. Tines are up for grabs as well. Selman, your thoughts, your fork score. I mean, I look, I know Doughboy has a thriving cinematic universe and I'm such a small part of it, but I am. I do believe I'm the one that I first proposed the tines many years ago. And whenever I hear 100 percent, whenever anyone mentions a time, I don't want credit, of course, but I feel a little warmth in my heart.

So just anyway, to sum up, I ate it right away, a great fry, a nice tender piece of meat. Could have used a little more seasoning. The fry with the toast, it's a bite of the night. Chew of the dude, that's not good. That's bad. That's pretty good. Chew of the dude? No, no.

I liked it. For us, you got to think about who you're talking to here. Yeah, our bar is extremely low. You know, I love, I love the kind of, we do one thing, we do it really well. I'm going to give it three forks, three tines. Three out of four, three out of four tines. Selman, I'm shocked. Just on the outside of the Golden Plate Club looking in, but a very, very good score.

I am shocked by the score. From the man I will now call the tine father, Matt Selman. Wow. Oh, that makes me feel so good. Because his, because his pun was so awful that. This is the level we're talking of here. I can't even beat tine father. That's great.

Wigs. I'm shocked by Selman's score because this is the best thing I've eaten for Doughboy since I've been back in Quincy probably. Wow. Wow. Wow. I mean, you ate it right away, which was super smart. Which, I mean, like what, I mean, we had Wendy's.

I of course love Wendy's, but this was, this was, this was such a delight. I really enjoyed it. They let my mom go back in and use the bathroom, which was nice. Most places don't do that. That's a tine right there. I love raising canes the way Wiger's parents love raising cane. C-A-I-N. I love this place.

I love this place. I like that it was stripped down. For me, I would like that it's just simple. Here's what it is. I really, I was really, I was really blown away by the chicken tenders and the Texas toast. I thought everything I had was good. And a big part of it was that sauce being good and the sauce is good. It's a complicated sauce.

Let's just say it. It's not a simple sauce. It's not a simple sauce. And they, and a lot of it, the place being good hinges on the sauce and the sauce is good. They do it, Wigs. It's a, like I said, it's a home run. It's, it's, it's five forks for me, Wigs. Five forks.

Five forks. Wow, that's good. It's five forks. Selma, I can't believe that you didn't Golden Plate Club, but I was shocked. I, I, I said to, I, I just tried to like, I tried to this thing. I'm one of your guests had a great like four system ranking system. And I don't remember the guest or the restaurant. I think it was a buffet.

It's a long, this is a long time ago. And I just was thinking like, I thought it was great. It's like, if I had to get a drive through, you know, experience, I would definitely want this, but I didn't feel like it was on the same level of like an in and out, or every time I see it, I have to fight the urge not to go in. You know what I mean? Right. Like with in and out, like every time you drive by in and out, you have to like,

put your Tesla, I assume you all have Teslas on, on autopilot. So it doesn't go in. Oh, there there's, that's like Emma. That's part of this like dickhead persona that I tried to establish earlier in the, she's not listening. No, our, our, our, our, I try and try to give her context. That is kind of like asshole showbiz douchebag, which is, you know, persona that no one thinks is funny or good.

And Emma, Emma, Emma, Emma, Emma had a thought bubble above her head with of her vaping. Right. There was a dog barking. It distracted me. I'm sorry. I apologize. I apologize. Anyway, this is not a good character.

It's, it's, it's embarrassing. I think, I think, I think our listeners are nodding along when you're talking about putting the Tesla in cruise control. Hopefully we're all going to get vaccinated soon. And like, I got to take, I got to take you guys to the Simpsons Clippers seats together. We got to have a Clippers game, right? I know you're a Laker fan, but yes, we, you guys would go. I've always tried to get, I tried to get you guys in, but it's always like I never know

till last minute. Selman, I got them once and I think maybe possibly through you. It was one of those situations where for me to get them, they, they fell down. It fell down a bunch of cracks. I don't know how I, I don't know how I got them, but I went once and the seats are, the seats are really, really good. It's an incident. It's insane.

And Mitch, when you got to the arena, when you got to Staple Center where they're like, oh, right this way, Chief Wiggum. That's glancing. Well, good score from, good score from Mitch. I mean, I would say the, and I totally get what you're saying. Why did we review it when you're a fucking vegetarian? It doesn't make sense that we did it now. We, here's my fault.

It's my fault. It's my fault. No, it's not, it's not your fault, Selman. We, we should have reviewed it earlier. We should have reviewed it with you last year or the year before. We should have reviewed it pre-pandemic. The issue is, Mitch. You should have just broken it.

You should have eaten a piece of chicken. Here is the issue, Mitch. The issue is, this is, it's fucking far from LA. And that's a reason that in, in past times, we would just rule something out entirely because COVID traffic, sure, this is like a 30, 40 minute drive in normal traffic when people are commuting and people are driving as much as they need to, and we're, we're regressing that pretty soon. That's a fucking, that could be 90 minutes. That could be two hours.

That could be, you know, like that, that's a punishing commute just to try some fast food. So that's the reason we, we didn't review it earlier. There just aren't any close to LA. Hopefully there will be some more locations opening up in the LA area soon, because it seems like this place is generally very well received and has a lot of fans. And I will say, I will be, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a curious. I'm raising Kane's curious right now after this experience, because certainly the sauce was the highlight.

The sauce was intriguing. The sauce was like, oh, this is something I haven't had before. Selman, I am a little bit hesitant because of your comment about the, the tendies being a little under seasoned, but that said, I really do want to try it. I really am very excited to try it. So I guess as a vegetarian option, this is terrible. This is a terrible vegetarian option. I would, I would give this one fork or one fork two times.

Oh my God. Reviewing it just as a vegetarian restaurant. But the Texas Toast, it is good. That's not, but what kind of meal is that? I'm having coleslaw. I'm having bread. I'm having fries. I'm having all starch for lunch.

Like what kind of meal is that? How am I going to get through my day? I need some sort of protein. Sounds like some fucking weird, wider bullshit that you probably eat no matter what. That said, I'm not going to give it that score because that's not how I'm, that's not how I'm reviewing things this year. I haven't been reviewing things purely from the vegetarian experience.

I've just been taking that into account. So I'm going to give this an I. I'm going to give this an incomplete. That's the boring shit I've ever heard. I need to revisit Raising Canes and have the tendies in order to have some sort of actual accounting of how good it is. Could you buy some now and put them in escrow? Emma's yelling at you, but she was muted.

Were you yelling at Nick, Emma? No, I was just miming my personal opinion of Five Forks. It was Five Forks. Five Forks from Emma. Wow. Emma, this is from the drive, the cross country drive. Yeah. I'd recently drove across the country with my boyfriend and we ate Raising Canes three nights out of the six.

We were on the road, I think. That's a crazy wild. And every single time it was consistent. It was hot and juicy and fresh every place we went. It was one of the most consistent experiences I've had. And that's like a huge deal. It's a huge deal because like one thing that maybe I didn't appropriately factor into my review is how bad are the other chicken tenders out there

in the drive through fast food area space? They're probably super shit. You know, they're probably just greasy and chewy and gross. Well, that was another thing. None of them are like the, there's not like the chewy tender. All of them were just juicy. No, it's just that weird little tender. They call it a tenderloin of the breast.

Yeah, but I saw them in the back killing an entire chicken and only taking that out of each and throwing the rest of the chicken away. So it's really, but no, they cook it there. I mean, like in the tender space, this has got to be top of the game, right? If you love tenders, the rest are so much worse, I would assume. Right. I think you so often get like the chewy, tenderly, like muscly part of in a tender. And these are like so juicy and delicious.

Why did you give it, you gave it an I and that stands for what? Impotent? Incomplete. All right. Incomplete. We'll be back with more Doe Boys. Welcome back to Doe Boys. We're here with Matt Selman.

I can't believe you gave an I. Raising Canes. What do you want me to say? You want me to give it five forks just to agree with you? Yes. Here's what I'll do. I'll say that my I, in lieu of my I, Emma Erdbrink, our producers, five forks score will be canon for now.

So you can have, give it five forks, give whoever's maintained the Doe Boys Wikipedia, put five forks under Weigar and then put a parenthetical for via Emma, or just however you want to annotate that. Selman, Selman, explain to you how to do your job. Was this the first time you had it, Selman? Yeah, the first time. Oh, wow. Okay. So I, I, I told the Quincy text chain, I told, and I was like,

man, I had Raising Canes at rules. Who's on the text chain? You got Chankton. You got Wu-Tang. Chankton. You got Freobot. Wu-Tang's there. Yeah.

Scoop's got to be in there. Scoop's on there. Scoop's on there. Chewie, Chewbacca. Chewie, Chewbacca. Scoop accidentally texted the chain Good Morning the other day, and we all laughed about it for a long time. He just texted Good Morning.

He was meeting the text. His fiance is now fiance. Wow, congrats, Scoop. I know it's a Scoop. But, but he just texted Good Morning, and then the chain laughed at him for a long time. You roasted it, the man, for saying Good Morning? It was very funny.

He doesn't speak too much. And then he just randomly said Good Morning. I said, hey, Raising Canes is great. And then Matt Glenn, great guy, strong man, union guy. When I was in Columbia, I was in the water, and he picked me up out of the water with one arm onto the boat. He is extremely strong, the strongest man, the strongest man in the world.

And he was like, Raising Canes sucks. That's what he said. And then Dana was like, that used to be a McDonald's, and he was pissed about it. And so he had tried Raising Canes and didn't like it. I don't know if my five forks is, am I, I know it's been like hyped up by a couple of people, but do people not generally like Raising Canes?

I don't know. I don't know what I think. I think people love it. I think it's super love. It makes sense. I think it was fucking great. I'm shocked by, and I get it, why? Three and three quarters isn't a bad grade.

It's not bad. I just didn't have the yank factor. I'm thinking I want to get it again. So I definitely feel a little bit. I mean, I feel like I could drive past it. I would be okay. Wow. All right.

I mean, again, I did my one man, sad little loser tournament of champions, and the winner of that was the KFC original recipe breast. Don't forget. That's what my mom, my mom said after all, she's like, I, you know, I prefer the KFC, but KFC, we just did it someone,

and it has, it, it was not great. It, it, it, it's, it's seen better days. So I think, I think KFC suffers from what it seems like Raising Canes does not suffer from, which is locational inconsistency. Each KFC, yeah. A lot of variants. It's a privately owned company, like in and out.

So it's a family run organization. So I think they're really tough on their, I guess they're not franchisees, but their outlets or whatever, like they, they're not going to open one and have it be location dependent like a KFC or even a, even a Wendy's or a Popeyes or a Popeyes. So, but they, you know, I'm curious to see where it,

where it goes in the, in the years to come. I mean, I originally went with you guys to Buffalo Wild Wings. Great time. That was one of, that was the best time. We ate every kind of wing they had, and it was fantastic. And then I bought stock in Buffalo Wild Wings,

then it went down, then I sold it, and it went way, like literally the next day it went, you got taken private and went way up. It was a giant financial catastrophe. Anyway, asshole. And, um, but I was thinking like, oh man, I would, I would open a Raising Canes. Like if someone said, would you want to invest

in a Raising Canes in an area that they thought was underserved by the tender, high quality, tender community, you would definitely want to get in on that. It does, it does feel like a play. But then we talk about this all the time is, Raising Canes does have that thing of, if they start tossing out a bunch of Raising Canes

in the quality dips, that will hurt that place so much because then it will just be a bad tender place. And that is, that's a nightmare. That, that nightmare. Yeah. I also think like your Chick-fil-A's, like you're, you're in and out burgers, part of its marketing right now

is that each location is hopping. That, that, that each one seems like a scene. Like, like, oh, there's a, oh, wow. Look at all these moths to flame coming to Raising Canes. I got to try this place. So I think they diluted it too much. The only thing, the only thing harder

than getting Raising Canes in, which is getting a Patreon subscription to Doe Boys. I mean, like they're like, they're disappearing so fast. Got to get on them. Get in while you can. Hey, it's time for a new segment. This is the first edition of Who Had a Cow, man. Wow.

I've got a series of food-related Simpsons quotes. And Mitch and Selman, both Simpsons veterans, are going to guess which character said it. I don't know anything. You don't, you're gonna destroy me. Oh my God. So buzz in with your name and tell me which character said

this Simpsons food-related quote. And if you can name the episode, you get a bonus point. These were compiled by our associate producer, the drop king, Robert Persinger. And to give Mitch a fighting chance, all of these quotes predate Selman's first credited episode. Wow.

So they range from season one to season nine, episode four. Is that better or worse for you, Selman? Well, it speaks to the great, the greater truth that as much as I am so proud of my career and love having had it, it will, nothing will ever change the fact that the most beloved Simpsons episodes were pretty much up until the day I arrived.

And, you know, that's just part of the, one of the complicated, you know, yin and yang of the universe. And, you know, you get some things and some things you don't get. And then, you know, I love the work I'm doing. I, I understand the relationship our fans have with the classic hand-drawn episodes

and these sort of HD Simpsons of modern times. And I think there's, there's things to like about all of them. And I, I do not bemoan anyone their opinion. Selman, you made my dream come true. You put me in an episode. That's true. But I put both of you in.

But both of you. And then you put both, I've been in twice. I've been, I'm a character and myself in the Simpsons world. Yes. That's true. And I gotta, I feel like Nick was like freaked out more than happy that he was on the show. I was, well, okay.

So this happened on a Sunday. And I don't use my phone on Sundays. This is like a little bit of, you know, denial I've been indulging lately. And so I felt like Nick, the person, I'm the person who Nick says is hard to communicate with. The man doesn't talk. He had a weekend free cell phone day.

This, the weekend free cell phone two days. Yes. The, just when was it? A week or so ago? Last weekend. I normally do just Sundays, but I was like, maybe I'll do it for the whole weekend. And you know what?

It was great at a great time. But then again, I'm lucky enough to not have to be on call for anything. So, you know, I could just kind of do that right now. There was a dull emergency. What was the dull emergency? I don't know. I had to figure out where the restaurant was or something.

So it happened on a Sunday. Well, that's when the Simpsons airs, as everyone knows. And so I didn't know about it until Monday morning, where I woke up to a barrage of texts from well-wishers. And I was, and you guys as well, it was a complete surprise. And so I was just sort of like, well, I was like, wow, I don't know what to say. Wow, this is amazing.

I was very surprised, but it was, it was very, very, very, very sweet thing for you to do. To me, it felt organic to the show in that it was a cool, but old-time Sardis bar for people who were successful in the podcasting world. It was a dream come true. It ruled. Yeah, it's pretty amazing.

It's also ranked as the creepiest Simpsons episode wags because you were in there. I'll give a, so just to give some context for a way, maybe why my reaction was what it was. My family, I told them about it. I showed them the screenshot and their reaction was, they really gave you a beard because I was very, I had a full beard in the, in my surprise form.

So I was like, yeah, all right, yeah, it's true. This is like when my mom gave you a bed and you said you didn't sleep well, Jesus, for God's sakes. No, no, I mean, that's how families are. It's true. And Selma, I very much enjoyed the Boston episode I was in and that episode. I thought there were two great episodes.

Thank you. Thank you, Mike. We were, they were doing this to me to be fair, so that they figured that you would know, that you would know everything from your time there. But also I figure, I think you're going to still kick my ass on this anyways, but we'll, we'll see. All right, let's see.

Well, let's find out. Before we begin. Classic Simpsons trivia. Selma, were you serious that they really throw away the rest of the chicken at Raisin Cane besides a breast? No, no, no. I'm sure they have a deal with some purveyor that. Nick and Selma can see that my car keys are in my hand right now.

There's a bunch of raw chickens with 90% of their car keys thrown out. Onda, who had a cow man? So I'll say the quote and buzz in with your name and then say the character and for a bonus point, say the episode. All right, first up. Oh my God. Oh my God.

Where did you get that brownie? Mitch. Homer. Mitch, you are correct. And I'm going to say, does it hurt me if I guess what? No, there's no negative to it. There's no penalty. I know this and I don't know where.

Did he say it to George Harrison? Yes, it is George Harrison. It's, wow, Selma, you're right. It's the four, what is it? The four. What if the answer to all of these was Homer? It could be. It's the baby on board.

What do they call the four? The four tops? It's Homer's barbershop quartet. Yeah, I'll give you the, I'll give you the point because you clearly know what you're talking about, even though you didn't know the name. So two points for Mitch. All right, next up.

Well, really? I think Selma deserved it. Okay, go ahead. No, no. All right, I'll give it to Selma. What? Are you tied up with it? You're tied up with it.

You said it. I know, I think that's fair. You said it first. That was good. I was thinking on it and you got it before me. It's a new ball game. All right, next up. I'll have a brain burger with extra pus, please.

Oh man. I'll have a brain burger with extra pus, please. Yes. Nelson? Not Nelson. Fuck. This is only going to make people who pay attention to things think I know even less about their favorite episodes

and I'm therefore less qualified for my job. Mr. Burns? It is not Mr. Burns. I'm going to say, is this a treehouse of horror? Not a treehouse of horror. This is from the Itchy and Scratchyland episode. Oh fuck. This is said by Bart when he's had a concession.

I thought it was maybe Bart. God damn it. Bart also a good guess if you don't know. Yeah. I could see it. I could see it. All right, I think we'll get this next one. Money's too tight for steak.

A Mitch? Yes. Marge? It is Marge. So I guess. And is this, hmm, is this the episode where they follow their soap together? You know what I'm talking about?

Can you be more specific? They put all the, oh, Lisa gets a pony. It's not Lisa gets a pony. Fuck. Someone, do you want to guess the episode? I don't know. The episode is Boy Scouts in the Hood. Oh wow.

Yeah. All right. Next question. These are harder than expected. Boy Scouts in the Hood or is that's a great episode. Here's the, here's the quote. Here's the grapes and here's the wrath. Ooh.

Here's the grapes and here's the wrath. I know this too and I can't. You know, there are a lot of episodes. There are a lot of episodes. There are a lot of characters as well. Mitch? Yes. I'm just going to get this wrong.

I know I'm getting this wrong. Rod and Todd. Not Rod and Todd. Fuck. You all write that it is a child. Oh. It's said by a child. Bart?

It's not Bart. Now Nelson. Yeah, it is Nelson. Yes, this is Nelson and Lisa's rival. This is when they're all showing off their dioramas and he's just got some grapes there and where's the, here's the grapes and here's the wrath, especially with Amber.

All right. Question five. Quote five. Who's up for a big bowl of non-fat ice milk? Flanders. Selman, Flanders. You are correct, Selman. It is Ned Flanders.

And do you know the episode? Lisa's, Lisa the vegetarian? It's not Lisa the vegetarian. This is Home Sweet, Home Doodly, Dumb Doodly. Yes. Where they adopt the Simpsons kids. Fuck. All right, a few more.

It's not up at two apiece. You guys are doing good. I only think I know less is episodes than I actually wrote. If you did, Mitch, if we did Doe Boys trivia, we would fucking eat shit. Yeah. Because I don't remember things I say.

Like when this episode releases, people will be quoting back at me on social media and the discord, things that I said. And I'm like, what are we, what is that? What are you talking about? People, people will, the day an episode comes out, people will text me and be like, that's, this thing is funny.

I'm like, I don't know where, or they won't say it's funny. They'll say, you said this thing on the episode. And I will have no idea what they're talking about. And it's something that we recorded within a week or two. I won't remember saying this. One, I won't remember this quiz at all. All right.

The, you're not up at two apiece. The next, the next quote is, Poppin' Fresh, you glutinous little Doe Boy. Mitch, Burns. That is right. It is Burns. And also it's gluttonous. I pronounce it gluttonous.

Mr. Burns, and you know the episode. I do. I know the episode. I know, I know the episode. And I can't think it in my head. I'm going to, I think it's the pin pals. It is. It is.

The episode is Team Homer. The episode where Mr. Burns joins the bowling team. And he takes, he takes, he's on his drugs, right? He's taking his drugs and Homer comes in. Yeah. Yeah. He has had ether. Yes.

Ether. All right. That's why I thought it was maybe the X-Files episode, but it was not. He is also hallucinating that episode. So how much you get a point where it should be three and three, I think. It's not it up at three a piece. Okay.

Number seven. I made enough gazpacho for all. Mitch, Flanders. Not Flanders. Oh, fuck. Selman. I know who it is. I know who it is.

God damn it. I mean, I could guess, but if I don't know, I'd rather just let Mitch take it. Okay. It's. Well, Mitch already got it wrong. But you can, you can guess if you want. Lisa.

Yes. It is Lisa. I knew it. And do either of you know the episode. Lisa the vegetarian. It was Lisa the vegetarian I would guess. It is Lisa the vegetarian. Yes.

I'll give you both a point. All right. Four or five. Selman has the advantage. Wow. I don't feel like, I don't feel like that was really earned, but I'll take it. Next quote. What kind of stew do you have today?

Jesus. This is so hard. What kind of stew do you have today? Mitch. Her singer went deep. Yes. Homer. Not Homer.

Is it a reference to Bart in the famous Mothballs in the Beef Stew? Is that a guess? Sure. It's not Bart. This is said by George H.W. Bush in the episode Two Bad Neighbors. This is him attempting to order at the drive-thru. That's right. That's right.

Jesus. Drop King. Drop King. Okay. We got dropped. We're getting our ass kicked. People will be mad at me too. They'll be mad at both of us.

They will be more mad at you. That is true, but they will also be mad at me. They'll be mad at me too. They're going to be mad at everyone. People were very mad recently when we did a flashback episode that showed Homer having been a teen in the early 90s. They got really mad. And I just, I try to explain to people in a really enlightened, open, spirited way that

we're not retconning anything. We're not saying your favorite episodes didn't happen. The show is 32 years old. The characters don't age. There's just like paradoxes have to exist. Just have fun. Take out each episode on its own. No one is saying anything didn't happen.

It's not like one of these shows with a rigorous continuity. And so, and like, you know, I don't know, like, obviously, you're never going to win these wars in like public discourse. I got a question for you. Were they more mad about that or more mad about the dough boys appearing on an episode? No, no one was mad about that. So I sort of doubled down in that episode. Like, so there was like a flashback of Homer having been kind of a hip hop loving teen in

the early 90s when of course the Simpsons were in other episodes shown as adults. So I went back and changed the episode in the rerun so that in the flashback where Homer is a teen in the early 90s, one of the kids is wearing a classic Bart Simpson, you know, underachiever and proud of it. Sure. Make it even more confusingly nonsensical. I love it. I don't know.

You got to embrace that, right? It's like they've experienced 30 different Christmases. It's like that's with Bart at the same age the whole time. It's just it's right. At birthdays and like if all these things that happened to one set of characters, they would be an elemental asylum. We the dough boys are quickly approaching this in terms of the podcast world where we have been around for far too long.

Yes. And we're just fucking we're running out. We're we got to we're going to wreck con some shit soon. Yeah. Yeah. We hit up Chili's five. We should just start from scratch. That's funny.

You start pretending that early reviews didn't happen. Just redo the burger tournament. There's going to be you song to you song three to song. All right. You've got two more. OK. OK. Here we go.

All right. This is pretzel town. Pretty boy. Mitch. Oh my god. Chief Chief Wiggum. Not Chief Wiggum. Oh fuck.

I know the episode. It's that episode where Marge has the twisted Marge is twisted. Yeah. The twisted world of Marge Simpson. Yes. So she goes and this is going to be town pretty boy. But who says it. It's not Wiggum.

I'll see some marges. What's the quote again. This is a pretzel town pretty boy. But Marge is selling pretzels. I mean I don't remember who. Oh Mitch. She can I try it. It is fat Tony.

Damn it. Selman got it in. It is fat Tony. The context is that the mafia gets hired to push out the other food trucks. Right. So that Marge can dominate the area. All right. One more.

Last one. Here we go. Last one. Here we go. Oh nothing gets chocolate out. See. Oh nothing gets chocolate out. See.

Mitch. Going to go with Homer once again. Not Homer. Selman you have this clinch but you want to take a shot. What's not the fuck. I don't remember. I don't want to lie to the fans.

Look I've seen all the shows at least once. I'm a fan too guys. Just doing the best I can in the HD era. Marge. This episode is not Marge. This was delivered by Chief Wiggum. In the episode I Love Lisa. And he has chocolate stains on his police pants.

Damn. Selman you have one. Who had a cow man though it was close. It was a close margin. You both know your Simpsons quotes. Although these were particularly tricky and dastardly ones. Currently see the drop king.

Just like a restaurant value feedback. Let's open up the feedback. Today we have an email from America. No one won that. Not even the listener won. The listeners won in the sense where they were like there are some Simpsons obsessives who knew all of these immediately and they're just like

they feel either feel proud of themselves or they're just furious at the show. So they either won big or lost big. Erica from Kalamazoo writes. My question is how to navigate free food and drink from workers at chains. For example I find this happens to me mostly at coffee shops or bars.

An acquaintance gives me a coffee or beer or snack for free. If I am frequenting such an establishment how do I make it so I don't expect them to give me free items all the time. I'll happily pay or put cash in the tip jar or whatever. But I'm also appreciative. Has this happened to you? Thank you for your wisdom.

Wisdom in all caps. They being fucking sarcastic? It seems sarcastic, yeah. Cheese wisdom. This has happened to me mostly when I'm a regular at a restaurant or a bar. And then I'll get something for free. And a big issue is I used to go regularly

to this kind of deli restaurant with counter service and I just sit at the counter by myself of us having an out meal by myself at an old apartment. And I'd like sometimes order just a glass of wine even if it was the afternoon. And it got to the point where the bartender there would always be giving me free refills on my wine. Like I'd drink half of it and then she'd pour it up

fill it up with a wink. To the point where I'd find myself drinking three glasses of wine in a meal. And then I was like, well I've got to just not drink my wine until the end or else I'm just going to get completely blasted when I'm having a meal here. And then I was just like, you know what? I'm just going to stop going here.

It got to the point where she was like so friendly. I was just like, I just got a bail on this. I don't know how to handle this interaction. It seems like a late episode Seinfeld B-plot that I don't remember. I would, when I was at UCB and going to Birds a lot. Still in business, by the way. Still in business.

UCB teetering on the edge. But uh... People love chicken. I hope that, I hope that, I hope neither go under. I don't want either to go under. I think a lot, did La Pubelle go under? Oh, I don't know if La Pubelle did. I mean, I know that La Pubelle was still

having people during the pandemic. It was a, they were fighting off, they were kind of having people in the restaurant when they shouldn't have been. For those of you not in LA or who aren't familiar with Hollywood, there's a strip of the, of Franklin Village, they call it. Which is right, there's the Upright Citizens Brigade Theatres, kind of the centerpiece.

It's right across the street from the Scientology Center. So it's a Scientology Celebrity Center, very LA location. And then on this strip are a series of mostly obnoxious bars and coffee shops. One of which is perhaps the most obnoxious is La Pubelle is this fancy French place that just fucking sucks. And then there's Birds, which is kind of like a more, like, oh, you can actually hang out there.

Yeah, it's Jason Momoa got into a bar fight there. That's the story from back in the day. At La Pubelle? Yeah, no, at Birds. At Birds? Yeah. Wow. Weigar is always yelling out the window

of the Celebrity Scientology Center saying, keep it down over there. But that would be a good, you should do a review of their brunch there. We did, we never, we never, we never, we didn't call it in as we, well, now I guess it's going into a main episode, but we went over there.

Now we know, it's a secret. Yeah, we're going to get fucking doxed and killed. That is the only way you can listen to it. There's a Patreon episode. It's on Patreon. Sign up soon. The numbers are running out. Yeah, no, like, I heard they were going to release a few more,

but only the high tier ones, I'm sorry to say. We went over there for brunch and it was an experience, I'll say that much. Yeah. I mean, I signed up. Nick is in. Yeah. Got four E meters out of four.

He tested Xenu on the meter. I'll go to, I would go to birds and I would tip well. And then like, eventually there were two bartenders there that ruled these two old, Nick, you know them. Those guys rule, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But they both left there now, but they, but I would like, I don't know.

I would tip well. And then like as, you know, like on another night, I go there and then my chart, like at the end of the night, I'd be like, you know, like 40 or 50 bucks. And I was like, there's no way I owe only 40 or 50 bucks. So I would just tip. So I would just make it up in tips. Like that's all you got to do.

Yes. You know what I mean? That's a great way to handle it. Or you can be vocal and just like, either you tip well, which is like, hey, then you're still, you're still paying for it in some way, but you're paying for it and you're tipping these people and you're helping out the staff. And you're probably still getting yourself some sort of deal

because they're, they're, they're hooking you up, which just tip well and, and, and, and, and hook them up on there and, and they'll be happy. Or if it's a thing where you're like, I really don't want it, then I think you can just be like, I'm just having one. I'm in and out. I think you can say something like that up top where you're like, I'm just going to have one drink and I got to go,

I can't stick around long. I think you can, I think you can, or like when they go to give you a refill, you can be like, oh, no, you don't have to do that. I'm, I got to leave early today or something. That's some, that's the thing that's bothering you. But I, but for me, I never had an issue with it. Like, like, uh, if they, if they gave me something a little extra, it's always nice.

And I just won't try to tip them a little nicer. That's all. Yeah. That's a great way to handle it. Tipping, tipping is one of the great joys of existence. Yes. Am I, I mean, it's, and I don't hope this doesn't sound douchey, but like, it is so fun to tip well and give people you've interacted with, make them feel good about what they did.

Usually they did do well and, you know, it's like, I always, once, you know, I've always done the, you know, you're sending your kids out to restaurants for the first time and they don't quite know how to tip. And then my kids came back once and they were like, we didn't have anybody to tip. And I dragged them back and made them tip the server and like make them go in and they were like, we don't want to go, daddy.

Like you're terrible, I guess. Like, they're like, no, no, you didn't do anything wrong. You're just like, you just plainly forgot. And like, thank you for your service. Although they're not the same, not the military service. Thank you for your, they're also, those people also deserve good tips. I wish I could, I wish I could tip our soldiers.

If there was a way to, I'm sure there is. I give the charity. Shit, this sounds horrible. I'm just saying, like, tipping is so fun. It's like, sometimes the fun is just like going to a place and like, and tipping, I don't know, it's crazy. It is, it makes you feel, you know what? I had Dunkin Donuts and says, look, we've done this before.

And I, and when, when, when me and Gabriel are talking about tips and people gave us, yes, I remember that conversation. And, and, and people gave us a hard time. And I, even in the moment I felt it, where I was like, God, we sound like fucking assholes. But in what sense, because I didn't read any of your actions. It's just that people are like, hey, good for you guys,

you fucking assholes that you tip people your way to pack yourself on the back. I'm not paying myself in the back. I'm saying it's almost like selfish to do it. Like, you get a good feeling. Like, I'm not saying I'm a good person. I'm not a good person. I'm just saying, like, I like good feelings.

I like the good feeling of making someone feel good. I mean, I'm like, there's nothing, that doesn't make me superior. I think, I think a lot of people. No one here in the dough boys is a good person. Maybe Emma. I think, no, she vapes. I think, I think that there's, there's, there's a lot of people

you tip what you, what you can afford to tip. And I think anytime people will be happy, you know, if you're going to go out and eat, you should be able to tip at least, you know, 20%. And, and sometimes people are like, hey, it's 15%. And that's fine. I think if you're tipping, and I don't know, because the world has gotten crazy,

I think some people aren't okay with 15%. It depends on your financial situation. It depends on your financial situation. But you have to be able to at least tip 15% if you're at a restaurant and eating. Yes. Dunkin Donuts today, I tossed the guy five bucks when I left because my, I know my sister always does it.

And the guy was like, hey, thanks a lot for that. And he said it nicer than that. He was like, he was genuine. And it made me feel good. And I'm sure he was genuinely happy to get it. So it's something you were right, that it is a thing that makes you feel good. So maybe it is, you know, in a way,

it's you're, you're feeling good about it too. And that's maybe a little bit selfish or whatever. But if you can, if you, if you can afford that, Good feeling. Yeah, then do it. Yeah. I think it's okay to feel good about yourself by helping to compensate an undercompensated service worker.

I think it's okay to like, if that's, if that's your motivation, part of your motivation for handing someone who has less money than you, some money, like, you know, I think that's come, to me, I feel like that's completely fine. But I, you know, the late great Jonathan Gold, food critic here in LA had a, had a baseline, which was just, he tipped 20% in every situation, regardless.

And obviously, professional food critic, which I guess ostensibly, we kind of are. But just, you know, whether it's, whether it was a to go coffee, whether it was a fast food restaurant, whether it was a sit down experience, you just, I'll always add a 20% premium for service because these people are working hard. And what I do does not exist without them.

So, you know, whatever principle you want is personal to you, but I kind of ascribe to that a little bit. Subscribe to that a little bit. I'm not judging anybody. I'm just saying, like, it's fun to participate in the hospitality industry as a, in the spirit of conviviality and excellence. I mean, I'll judge people who don't tip.

Sure. That's fucking indefensible. Right. And you heard, and you heard it here first. Like my kids. You've heard it here first. We've taken the throne from Jonathan Gold, Nick and I. We're the new Jonathan Golds.

That's right. Poor Jonathan Gold. Hey, at least he died before all his legacy. He died all before all this nightmare happened. That is true. That is true. You never see all this shit go down. The nightmare K and I,

like, like the nightmare from Justice League, spelled the same way. Like me at Batman's experience, whereas wielding a gun. You guys doing a Snyder cut. We did review, I assume. You must be. It's already been out.

It's as of this episode's release. The Snyder's cut was this past Tuesday's Doe Boys Double. Oh, I haven't even got to that yet. Oh, no, it hasn't been released. It is now. It's not this recording. Yeah. It's as of this release.

I guess we're in the future now. We're in the future. We loved it. We loved it. Could not love it. Loved it. Interesting. I feel like,

hey, all superhero movies are for adolescents, so I'm embarrassed to like them. But I do like them. I feel like it's my greatest Snyder cut. It's not even a comedy take, which is none of the characters in that movie have any inner life at all. Except for maybe Cyborg and Flash.

You know, maybe Cyborg and Flash do you. Everyone else are like just gods walking around stomping on the world. Which is cool. No, like, they're not like people. That's my take. I know that's, I know, I know, I know Snyder. Let you down with Watchmen.

I know that you wrote an article about it. You did not like it. No, I liked it. No, I liked it. You did like it? Oh, okay. I always thought that you didn't like it. No, I liked it.

I mean, I couldn't believe how, I couldn't believe it existed, that it was so slavish to the origin of the source material that it just kind of stunned that. This thing that was this graphic novel for Nerds 20 years ago was now like almost beat for beat shot for shot been made into a mainstream piece of entertainment was kind of just shocking.

We're Snyder defenders. I actually think he's pretty good. We were able to get a little joke in The Simpsons like the week it came out where some trolls were protesting like a rebooted movie and one of the de-release the Snyder cut. It was nice to feel a little topical and well a lot of stuff. We did a lot of work on Sonic's teeth. This is actually that same,

this is that same episode that the flashback that everyone is enraged by, which is about sort of about, it's actually kind of a chain restaurant episode. It's called do pizza bots dream of electric guitars. There's no trivia contests about it yet, but like, or maybe ever, but you know that it was about how

Homer used to work for a checky cheese place and loved the writing little rap, dumb pizza rap songs for the animatronic robots. And then he, then the robots are taken away for ridiculous reasons and he's traumatized. And then the kids in order to heal their dad, get the robots back together. They're gonna get the band back together,

but then, oh no, he's gonna watch this. And then JJ Abrams and JJ Abrams. Like I get, I get what you like the classic shows, but this is good. This is fun. This is a fun show. And JJ Abrams takes the robots and makes them into a movie

and Homer kind of becomes a troll. And there's some satire of the trolling industry, including Sonic the Hedgehog and his teeth. Let me just say that JJ Abrams is lucky, my Aston's still worth there because we were fucking thrown down. Oh yeah, right. I mean, yeah, but well, you know,

JJ had a very good sense of humor, I would say, even though certainly he came off pretty well on the episode and that, well, just, I don't know, just watch the episode and see what you think. Check it out. Also, the Simpsons. It's on Fox.

JJ also would have kicked my ass all over the Fox slot. If you have a question or a comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at doboyspodcast at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830 463 6844. And to get the Do Boys Double, the aforementioned Do Boys Double Patreon episode,

that's at the Golden, you can join the Golden or Platinum Plate Club at patreon.com slash doboys. And hey, speaking of URLs, check out the Do Boys Twitch stream, twitch.tv slash doboys podcast. I'm streaming, Mitch is streaming, and we'll be streaming the Doathon May 1st.

More details about that coming real soon. Selman, can we confirm Homer for Doathon? Definitely. Wow, you heard it here first, Breaking Chew. Breaking Chews. Matt Selman, thank you so much for joining us. And thank you guys. Please come back real soon.

Anything you'd like to plug at this time. Just, you know, the Simpsons Sunday Night on Fox, then right after that on Hulu, I'm really having fun doing the show. I really love what we're doing. Check it out. Selman, you know, you say that pedantic nerds get at you for the Simpsons.

Well, they also get at us for the Do Boys. So don't worry, there's nothing you can do where you can really avoid them. You can't escape them. The pedantic nerds. Like, I understand, like, the Simpsons is like a, it's like a highway and people get on and they get off at different times in their life.

You know what I mean? A lot of people, you know, like, but a lot of people get on later and or they get back on or they get off and then they get back on when their kids get on. And it's like, it's just a unique, crazy experiment in pop culture. And we just got to keep, we got to keep it going.

My mom and I were watching the podcast episode, the podcasting episode and we were, we were laughing up a storm. We were really enjoying it. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Check that out.

And hey, that'll do it for this episode of Do Boys. Until next time. For the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating. See ya. On the next Do Boys Double, it's for to anybody. So we're watching classic stoner comedy,

How High, with guest Sean Diston. Perhaps Harvard University's greatest contribution to comedy. Get the Do Boys Double every Tuesday only at patreon.com slash Do Boys. Want to see the sources for this week's intro? Check the episode description. That was a hate gum podcast.