Doughboys - Salt & Straw 2 with Saylor Curda and Tiana Okoye

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

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ice cream. Sure sounds better than mealworms and dog com or whatever the fuck. This week on Doe Boys, we return to Salt and Straw. Come on. Go is the Dono Boys. Come on our Dona Boys. Welcome to Doe Wolves, a podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Tiger Weiger, along with my co-host. Rader of the Lost Fridge, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.

I thought it would maybe fit the theme of the month or something. I think we kind of just have some generic roasts here. Did you want something specifically? Rater of the Lost Fridge. Raider of the Lost Fridge Alts Indiana Mitch and the Temple of Food Okay

I guess you're laughing too much of that Indiana Mitch and the last croissant That's I like that's my favorite one Nothing nothing for the bad ones sorry Patrick Roast at BirdFuck.com I guess the bad ones

The bad ones It means four and five Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Kingdom of the Crystal Hot Sauce That's pretty good What dial of destiny Diet of Destiny That means I like love

I love hot sauce I don't know It's a big guy thing that he just wants to, like, drink hot sauce, I guess? Is that what the, is that what the joke is? I guess so. I mean, I like crystal hot sauce. Hold on.

Yeah. We get against crystal. What are you in the dial of, what were you, what do you say? Diet of destiny. Dial of density. Dial of density is pretty good. I'm not going to help you. I'm not going to pitch on making fun of me.

I don't want to do this. Why? It's twisted muntle. Twisted muntle rolls on as season two continues. There's been people, So look, we're having cast members on episodes for every episode in the month of August. That's right.

And there were some people that I reached out to and I said, Twisted Monthill. And then they were like, wait, it is Twisted Monthful. I thought that was just a typo. And maybe it was one of you two who thought that that it was just a typo. But I was like, no, we're calling it Twisted Monthful. And they're like, oh, that's dumb.

No, the other person thought it was dumb. I'm pretty sure. It was calling me. Maybe was you. Twisted monthful. Speaking of cars, wags, I saw F1 last night in 40X.

Wow, how about that? Yeah. What'd you think? It was good, you know, it's a good 40X movie. They're really, they're really, my issue was not to get too gross here. But I had a huge soda.

Okay. And then I'm, you know, filled up with piss. Right. And then this thing is like sloshing the piss around inside of you. And I don't really, I didn't enjoy that that much. It was not fun. Do you hold it? I did hold it.

I did hold it. I held it to the end. end. You were engaged. You were engaged by what was happening. You didn't want to take a bathroom. Yeah, I mean, it's a fun movie. I think it's just a fun movie.

I don't think it's like a great movie, but it's a lot of fun. I think you just enjoyed the ride. I did, I did enjoy it. You kind of like being full of piss. Yeah, maybe. Like the Kool-Aid man. It's got a fun. Stuff moving around in there.

Jesus Christ, like the Kool-Aid man. Oh, yeah. It wasn't like, there wasn't piss near my head. It was all, it was down. It was in the proper piss places. Sure. How do you know? I don't know.

Not where everyone piss is from, the top of their head. There was not, I was not filled that filled with piss. But the 40X to see, if you want to see F1, fun to see it in 40X. You think that's the move. I've heard it's good in IMAX too. We're very much dating this episode, which we're recording, you know, earlier than release. F1 is probably still out in theaters at this point. Do you, how many, how many Fs do you give it, one to five?

Wow. I'd say F3. F3 and a half. Yeah, it's good. It's good. It's a fun movie. Fun movie. Yeah.

They should put our show. Does the F stand for fun? Is F1? Is he supposed to pronounce fun? Fun one? You're not saying. You're like the sequel would be fun too? Yeah.

I mean, you want my real answer? Yeah. No. No, that's not what it stands for. You fool? I think it stands for formula. Formula one. How about that?

Hold on a second. Our guests did not know. Listen, he said, how many Fs do you give it? it. Yeah, yeah. So when you hear that, I'm going to be like, and you say three, I'm going to be like, he gives three fucks about the movie. Do you even give an F?

Do you even give a fuck? I give a fuck about the movie. I give three fucks about the movie. Wow. How about that? I do give three fucks. I give three fucks. And it's a, it's a, it's a, everyone, Mike Mitchell gives a fuck.

I give a fuck. Maybe it stands, maybe it does stand for fuck one. Who knows? I can't wait for fuck too. But you in college. I'll tell you, in college, I'd not say I can't wait for fuck, too. I was looking forward to F1. I was going to say.

Let's just say there was the texter ball that would crack at Ithaca if you graduated version. Let's just say I was closely expecting it on the way out of college there. I was very nervous the texture ball was going to crack up. I didn't do great in college as far as dating life goes. And you know what? Transferred over to my adult life, wags. It's still not doing great.

But, you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes I get the ladies. You know what I mean? What's that? Who's this guy? What is this voice? What is this? Who is that? C's F1-1.

It turns into Brad Pitt. What's going on? That's right. Sometimes I get the ladies every so often. Yes, that's the plaintiff. What did that fast do to you? I've, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, um, you know, my deal. I'm a voluntary celibate.

That's, uh, you know that about me. Yeah. And you're the same, even though I know you're married. Um, Wags, let's hit him with a drop because I'm now turning red in front of our guests. Oh. We've discussed my life in general too much. I thought that was just your hue. Okay, here comes a drop.

I'm sorry, I don't let you see. Today on Doe Boys, we're talking chilies. Sorry about this. It was a tough fear, but we're going to come out of this all right. You're fucking insulting me. This is it. This is the last doughbo. I also want I'm fine with that.

Me too. Okay. Why ate a piece of my master's without me getting permission? Dude, he's helping you. He's on the same team. When we first talked about doing this podcast, you and I were at the Cheesecake Factory at the Grove. I wish we could go back in time and kill those, too. I wish we could go back in time.

Lizzie short. You got to save just that, just that clip. Dear dough boys, thanks for 10 years of laughs. I'm glad you didn't looper yourselves yet. Regards, Brent, New Hampshire. Brent, good job. That was a nice drop. Well crafted.

It was well crafted. Nice vibes. It's not your fault that we have co-workers that I am just going to be embarrassed in front of them for the entire episode. How to ho! To Spoon Nation, speaking of which. Just saying nonsense that doesn't even make sense to them. We should get to our guests. Drops at birdfuck.com.

Yes, very, very excited to have. Appearing on the podcast for the first time from Twisted Metal Season 2, now streaming on Peacock, Sailorbell, and Tiana Acoye. Thank you both so much for being here. Thanks for having us, man. Thanks for having us. Wow. I'll buy you a soda later.

All right. Let's not waste any time. Let's talk pickles. Piggles! Yes! Before the show, you both were talking about how much you have, how much enthusiasm you have for pickles. Say, you have a pickle sweater. I do have a pickle sweater.

I really wish I brought it. We wish you wore it when I travel. We wish you wore it as well. It would have been good. It would have been huge for us. I'm kind of embarrassed. I wear clothes. based on what I think

the people I'm going to see will like. The reason why I wore what I wore to Patty's premiere the other day was because it had horses on it. It was like a blue jean jacket with horses all over and I was like Patty's going to love this. I have to walk. So when I knew I was going to see her,

I was like, oh, I have to wear that jacket. Now I'll know the next time I see any of you, I'm going to be like, oh, pickle sweater. I love it. It's great. It's great. And I also just love pickles. I mean, you were saying that.

If you're at Disneyland, you're getting a pickle. Exactly. Are you a pickle freak? I love pickles. Okay. Yeah. Like, I want all the pickles. Yes.

I'm a pickle fan too. I'm a pickle fan as well. Yeah. I was saying that I... Extra pickles, please. I broke my water fast and I was eating pickles. It was the first thing I ate. And it was hurting my throat.

They were there because I hadn't, I wasn't used to having food. Well, you're supposed to chew them. Before you show them. I don't know if you know that, Mitch. But you're supposed to, you're supposed to chew it, you know? everyone I have on the pot I just get no damn respect I respect you

no you don't just remember next time you're rolling your eyes as you said it I will say I can't do that I think we met we met once before in the Toronto show Tiana I can't remember if we met there or not I wasn't there

but I'm basically interacting with you both for the first time today and immediately you're both just dunk it all over Mish but it's With love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is with love. There's some people we do it to do without love.

That's true. And you would know. Yeah. But you're not one. I get dunked on pretty quickly when people... This is the issue when I went to Ithaca. I immediately, I was like, all right, new place. I'm going to be a new me.

And then immediately I'm getting dunked on left and right. It sucks. It's just the way my life goes. You're so easily dunkable. You do it to yourself. Hey, you know how we were just saying, you know, who's, you know, gives dunkable energy. We didn't say in exact terms, but Anthony Mackey. It's an easy person.

So you know what? That's just more traits that make you two exactly alike. Yeah, the same. You know, you're one step closer to be. Exactly. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think Anthony Mackey likes pickles?

That's a great. That's actually a great question. I thought you were going to say Anthony Mackey likes us. Yeah? I can't tell if Anthony's a picky eater or not. Anthony, we don't know. Look, I just feel like we got to ask every guest this month. Anthony Mackey likes pickles.

Yeah. I think that's fair. That would be, that's a good way. Or it's just meat. Just meat. He just likes meat. He might be a carnivore guy. Yeah.

I mean, he's in very good shape. I don't know if, you know what I mean? But pickles are so, they're so nothing. They're like a zero, they're almost, you almost burn the calories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And maybe get a super sweet one, like maybe you get some extra carbs. But I mean, for the most part, I think they're pretty. But how sweet is.

A lot of sodium. A lot of sodium, actually that's a great point. Pickle juice is. I'm just going to say, isn't pickle juice, like, this is what my dissertation is going to be about, actually, pickles. They're like, it's like one of the best things for you, I think. Pickle juice is very good for you. Also great for hangover, pickle juice. Yeah.

Yep. And when you're drinking. And when you're drinking. And when you're drinking. Before and after. That's right. Take a pickleback. Have you ever had a pickle back before?

Yeah. Okay. No, I haven't, but you know what's actually really funny when I drink at home, which isn't often, but sometimes I'm just like, let me have a fun night by myself. When Sailor's drinking at home by yourself. I will always pull out a jar of pickles, and I will take a shot, and then I'll eat a pickle. Wow. Yeah. And I'll take shot and eat a pickle. It is like my chaser. That's a lot of, so a pickle back is.

You'll take a shot and then eat a pickle. Yes. So you are doing it the hard way. Yes. I always do it the hard way. There's a lot of people that do a shot of whiskey and then pour pickle juice in another. Whiskey? A shot of whiskey and then, yeah. Is it supposed to be whiskey? Yeah, that's what I was going to ask.

I'm doing it all wrong. What is the beverage of choice here? Tequila. I've heard of people doing picklebacks with tequila, too. Yeah, okay, thank you. Can I be psychotic? Can I be insane and say most often it's cinnamon whiskey? Cinnamon whiskey?

Saylor, I'm going to tell you, that's disgusting. Yeah, I know. I know. I figured it would be most alcohol just like makes me feel so sick when I drink it that I can't physically get through the act of drinking it. You were, you were, you were, you could not go into bars when we were in, when we were. No, I could.

Oh, I just, I just never willing me. Oh, really? Hung out. She did. I was so tired. I did hung out. I did hang out. Is, is, I was, I was, I was so tired all the time.

Is that what it is? I thought, I thought you, I didn't think you were 21 last year. You were. I was not 21 when we were in Toronto. Oh, okay. But I, but the legal drinking age in Toronto was, what, 17, 18? I don't know. So I was going out with you guys.

I think you maybe were just breaking the law, honestly. Oh, my God. There might be a Monty at your door when you get home. We would walk up someplace with Danny and be like, and he would whisper in their ear and then just let us all in. I didn't. But it was. It was all legal every second that I was there.

Or the doormand would throw him to the street. Even then, I don't know how many. Oh, my God. Crazy, crazy story. Wait, what happened? There was a guy who was like a producer who was like in charge of the cast. And then he was like, he was like, I'll get you. into this bar. And like a couple of minutes later, they were like, who they like threw

on the street. Like in a cartoon. I mean, you, you, you had a terrible time in Toronto, right? Or you didn't like it? For a lot of it. You thought people were mean. I was having, I was having a hard time in Toronto for a little bit. Yeah. And when I got there, I was like, this is Canada, right? I was like, this is like the place where everyone's like, they're so nice. Like, they're so nice. Like, thank you, you know. Yeah. And I think like the first few days, that I was there, I was like, I had like maybe three instances already of like either holding the door for someone or like holding an elevator, like all instances like that where the person

would like, you know, walk out or walk in and just give me like the nastiest look. Like I'd be like, oh here, like opening the door to like, you know, a coffee place and someone walking out and just going and like walking away. And I just get so scared and I'd be like, okay. What's your deal, Canada? live up to your reputation of being a nice place. Why did you think the people were mean? That's all my fault for asking. I had similar,

I had some similar issues early on where I was like, what the fuck's going on up here? I don't know. I mean, my first day there, a guy called me a psycho and he followed me for three blocks, but I think he was unwell. So on par with my stories.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was, it was a similar thing where a lot of people I was running into were, it's fine. It's all fine. I grew, I, and you a girl like it?

I grew to like it. I grew to like Toronto. I did. I liked it a lot. I did. I did it a lot. And it took through, in three months. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Wait the what? Say that again? I said, you're good with people while. Oh, no. No, no, no, no. I don't. I, I, I, I, only Doe Boys fans. I'm okay with that.

But, uh, but I grew, I grew, I grew, I grew to like the city a lot. There's good food there. It was, it was, it was, and I met all of you guys up there. There's a lot of good, there's a lot of good stuff up there. Yeah. A lot of good luck. I like Canada. Yes.

Don't be mad at me. I like you guys. Oh, I loved it. I like Sparky. We're talking about Sparky beforehand. I crammed for the test today and I was listening to the Do Boys podcast that was recorded live in Toronto. And I don't know.

I feel like for about a half an hour, you were trash it. I really laid into Canada. Yeah. I really laid into Canada quite a bit. I would say that I was still at my frustration point when we recorded that episode. Yeah, when did that happen when we were there like. That was pretty early. I think it was.

is pretty early on. It's the end of September. End of September. Oh my God. It was almost in the end. It was, I was two months in a being there. I think it was pretty early on. You know, some of it might have been residual me having those jokes for a while and then

shitting on it. Like, I think at that point I heard already. It was built up energy that you were just like ready to tell somebody. Yes, yeah. Yeah. And it had to be on the microphone in front of like a thousand Canadians. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk Canada a little bit because you both spent a lot of time up there.

shooting season two. Had you spent time in Toronto previously? And like, what did you come to like about the city in particular from a food standpoint? Oh, I love Toronto in arrival. It has nothing to do with food, but what made me so comfortable there was it was very similar to Chicago, which is where I'm from. The architectural building standpoint, which is really wacky and messed up, was like very similar to the wackiness in Chicago, felt very at home.

I had a good time with the food. I feel like I didn't go to the best places because half of the time I was so exhausted that I was like, oh, there's a burgers priest next to me, thank God, or like anything that I could get my hands on. I never went to burgers priests. Really, I loved it. It actually was great. The first time I got it was, the first time I got it was.

when I got sent home on because of my injury and Danny personally like drove behind the car that took me home back to my hotel to like be there to be like settle me it because I was there what did you get what did you get injured on oh my god I got injured and not your head I hit my head oh man you were doing a green screen and it was me and chucky flupe and and I think this happens in like the second or third episode but anyway we're driving and I'm just really in it. I'm really there and cars are getting hit and whatever. There's a metal handlebar that sticks out of the like, you know, really, really old car that I'm driving. And I just like bump up and I hit my head on it. And I'm kind of like, oh, ow, like that hurts. And that's right when he calls.

And this is a, who is doing it? Not Bill. Phil. Thank you. I was like, his name rhymes with Bill. So have been episode like two or maybe three, four, five? I don't think it was that. Two. I think three, maybe. Oh. How bad was it? Do you remember any of Canada or is it all kind of wiped out? Yeah, well, we were in Canada.

No, it's, Canada was lovely. I loved it all. That was crazy, though. And, like, I definitely, I immediately thought that I had, like, drawn blood. I was like, oh. Oh, man. Like, there must be blood shooting down my face. It had hurt so much.

It was insane. And, yeah, they sent me home. The whole point of the story was to say that Danny got me Burger's priest. We love Danny. It was like this will make you feel better. And then you were healed. Thank you. And then I was about it.

And then everything was fine. Thank God for Canada. I'll say this. My therapist is great. When Joe and I were like halfway through the season, we were like both like limping and messed up. And we're like, well, season like it's another twisted metal season because it is a physically. It is not an easy show. It's a, it's a tough, it is a tough show to film.

Like you're running around and, uh, yeah, I mean, I did like Joe would throw me up against, uh, I say this all the time. But Joe, as a big guy. I don't get the experience of, like, being kind of, like, handled, like, a child. And Joe is one of the people that can easily do that. And it's kind of nice for me. Wait, like, you're just being thrown around a bit. Like, I like, it was fun to get, it just made me feel like a little kid. I get what you're saying.

I mean, I'm not as big of a guy as you, but, like, I'm a sizable man. And, like, yeah, it is. Yeah, no one's carrying, like, a baby. You like to be thrown around to a little. It's nice to feel small sometimes. As much as you would like it, no one's carrying like a baby, and you don't have a little bottle in your bottle. You're a little baby. He would love that more than anything.

But Joe would, like, there's a scene where Joe, like, throws me into the ice cream truck. And then we're just in that, I mean, that ice cream truck itself, you guys are lucky that you never had to be in that thing. It is just like, it's, it's, oh, shit, you do have to be in that. Yeah, I'm sorry, you do have to be in. Oh, I did it. That bitch was crazy. I actually was dying to get myself into the ice cream truck, though. So Joe gave us some context on it previously.

It's a converted male truck, right? Yes. It's hot as cramping in there. It's a converted mail truck And we were just like I have so much respect for I already have respect for people Who deliver mail but then there was

In these old older models there's just no AC So they get so So crazy hot And when we're in New Orleans it was so so so bad But then also the inside of it is like Rusty weapons on the wall And then they're like okay so like you're going back and forth

So you're like bouncing from wall to wall into just like rusty On these like tennis shots That's 100% That was a part of it too One of the days was just such a pain Because it's such a dinky little truck That when it was pouring rain And all of it was just like getting all inside the truck

And on the seats where we were supposed to be And like That was our last day Yeah that was our Oh yeah that was the last last day That was just difficult Yeah I was lucky I got a little bug I got a Volkswagen Beetle

That rules And and the other guy Yeah And I know we have to be, like, light in terms of content for the season, but like, like, what, like, what do you, you're actually doing stunts or, like, you know, involved in that with this car, your driver, right? Yeah. What is that process like? Okay. So, we have, like, a couple stunt directors, um, or, like, coordinators.

Right. So there's, like, the drivers. So there's all of that stunt work, which is very specific. And there's people that, like, handle that. Um, and we'll step in. something's like a little too dangerous. Sure. But day one, I mean, I was putting a car to drive around on,

there was like this big open field. I think we were close to Hamilton. Are you texting each other right now? No, no. Who's that? Oh, my God. You know what, hilarious. I saw Mike on his phone,

and so I was about to text him and say, like, get off your phone. I just see your eyes popping up. Tiana's full of shit. She never drove a car. I texted her. I said, I texted her, Tiana's doing a great job. That's what I texted say.

Yeah, so I was doing a great, a great job. He's really clear. Well, now the bits destroyed, so I'm not going to text you that. But get it off your phone. I was looking, I was, I was, I was looking something up for the show. Oh, okay, okay. But keep going, sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. No, I'm paying attention to you.

Yeah, so we had like the, those stunts. And then we had like physical fighting stunts, which is like, so fun, which I loved doing. I didn't get to do all of them. I had a stunt. had a stunt double and her name was Tiana actually. Why are you laughing? Her name was Tiana. Don't worry about it. It's a text thing. It's very funny.

It's just an inside joke and we were texting like five seconds ago. There were stunt doubles but then also that we did do a lot of our own stunts. But more importantly, let's talk more pickles. Yeah. I don't think Mitch, I seriously don't think we got closure on pickle. I don't think we did either.

I actually have a question for you guys about pickles. You know how it's such a big thing now to like, you know, get a giant pickle rip it open and like put like that like it's like either they put talkies they put this like never I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about you put like taheen and all that stuff you haven't seen any of that never it's like wait guys I mean I don't even know but they make it like I will look it up on TikTok because I bet I can find it like no I just like I'm regular yeah I'm usually taking those those bad boys just straight out of the jar yeah I think is what they call it

where it's like they literally like look at that it's like a pickle that's like completely stuffed and these people are going to stuff it. No what I mean? Okay. Do you get the idea slightly? Yeah, I understand the concept. I was going to say like, have you guys ever tried that and if you enjoyed it? Because every time I see it, I can't help but think they're ruining a good pickle.

Oh, you think they're ruining the good pickle. I mean, that seems why. I understand the taste for it. Yeah, it might be a hat on a hat. It might be on Gapachka. Like a pickle in and of itself is usually not for me. That's the word that he loves to say. I want a shirt that says a pickle in and of itself is.

I'll take a spicy pickle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That does sound interesting. Garlic. Yummy. Yeah, those are fun. Yeah. Actually, a jalapeno, like, a pickle sounds really good, actually.

I have a pickle hat. I just got a pickle hat recently. That's cool, Mitch. Just right now? Like recently, like right now. You shit. Is that what you were doing on your phone? You were buying your phone.

I just bought a pickle hat. Oh, okay. What is it? When you say pickle hat. Prove it. Yeah. Is it like in the shape of a pickle or does it have a pickle on it? It was her friend's birthday and she loved pickle back.

So I have a pickle hat, just like you have a pickle hat. So it's just a baseball hat that has a pickle logo on it. Yeah, a lot of fun. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I'll wear it next time when you wear your pickle sweater. Yeah, and you're going to wear a pickle shirt. I'm not going to wear a pickle shirt. I'm sorry.

I'll wear the pickle shirt. I think a pickle shirt with the pickle hat is just too much. I'm just going to say it. Look, I love. pickles. We didn't get, we didn't get into this enough. At Disney World, do you like a pickle? You like one of those big pickles. Tiana, what is, what's you, where do you, how do you like? What type of pickles do you like? We were

saying that you make, maybe like a spicy pickle or would they have a lot of flavor? Um, all right, so recently I went to uh, this chicken place called Halen Rays. Oh yeah, Alan Rays. Oh yeah. For the first time. Wow. So I love, which was so good. Yeah. More on that later. But the pickles with like fried chicken.

amazing. A lot of fun. It's classic combo. Yeah. I guess I'm just like a classic girl. Like I really just like pickles on a sandwich. Yeah. Yeah. Um, pickles on a burger. That for me, pickles are so contextual. Like, I would love them beside a sandwich, but also like on a burger. But maybe not on a sandwich. I could do both. I could do both. I could do both without pickles. Right, right. I have a great question for you guys. Yeah. What do you like more about the pickle? The crunch or that little shot of vinegar that you get. The crunch. I like the crunch, yeah.

Yeah. But I do like the... I think I like the soda vinegar that you get. No, no, no, because when you're having it in a burger, like the reason why you like a pickle in a burger. Because you get the crunch.

But that's also what lettuce is for. In more, even more of a sense, because lettuce has no flavor. Yeah, but most of the time you're not getting lettuce in your burger. Are you getting lettuce in your burger? Unless you're getting like that spine, it's not going to be that crunching anyway.

The lettuce spine you're talking about? Yeah, that's like what, you know, You know, Giants would pull out of us if they wanted to put something to a burger, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, I guess you're right. It's grim. You don't feel like grisly image. By the way, are you doing a red bowl?

Like, if they were making a burger, they'd pull us. Actually, no, that's empty. I already, that's my second one. I already finished it. You're pounding a red bowl and a coffee right now. Yeah, and I have a Diet Coke in the waiting room, and I just really, I need to think. No. Sailor.

You are young because you, who came in before we got the ice cream, you were having a diet, Pepsi or Diet Coke. Yes. And you're eating chips. Listen, I woke up so tired this morning. I was like, I need to get energy. I almost never have Red Bulls, but every time I do have a Red Bull, I lock in. In case you can't tell, I'm super lucky. But I just was like, I want to be more really present and aware, and a Red Bull helps me with that.

So Red Bull, coffee, another Red Bull. Much like your character, you are, you are causing some mayhem. Her character is mayhem, why. That's right. It's mayhem and dollface, right? And stew. Yeah, you didn't have to make mine sound like shit, but yeah. Yes, mayhem, dollface, and stew.

Jemmy, it's fine. Blade, danger, and dipshit number three. My blade or am I danger? Take your pick. It's a specific textural component to the pickle, though, right? Because it's got like a little bit of give, but then a crunch at the end. It's got both elements. But you do get that from lettuce, or if you're a giant human spine.

Mitch, the taste is inherent to it. Like, it's like the sourness is a part of what I like is that sourness can be really potent, can really cut through. But also, if I'm having myself a hot dog, I like a pickle, you know, like a not necessarily dough relish, maybe a sweet relish. Yeah. Good with everything. You know how people have really crazy food combinations where they're just like, oh, I like. What about a pickle and a cookie, though? No.

That's not going to. Great point. Tiana just Just dunked on your theory No that, not that One of my craziest food combinations is I like to dip my pickles and ranch Because I also really love ranch

Ranch is one of my favorite things in the world That sounds fucking good honestly I would In fact I've looked into them I just haven't purchased them But um You've looked into ranch sweatshirts? Yeah are you kidding

I feel like I could find one literally In my safari right now but I ranch like a bottle of ranch or just like a is it just like dough boy should release a line of clothing called ranchware ranch wear but it's the dressing yeah the dressing that's what I'm saying

but it's a dress yeah it's a dress ranchware and also maybe it's good if like if you spill ranch on it it will like you know you need to make like a cream dress with tiny little gray spots around a green hat to go with it what is it when you know when like the waterproof stuff

It'll just like a... Oh, yes. Yeah, I know what you mean. What's that word? Wicks. Yeah, wicks off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ranch would just wick off.

Yeah, wick. The word I was looking for was wick. Say it again? Wick. Ah, wick. All right, hold on. Hold on here. Yeah.

Pickles, you like them spicy. Mm-hmm. You like them in ranch. In everything. Or in ranch. In everything. I don't trust people that don't like, there's people that... How do you not like pickles?

Is my question. Apparently, the UK is pretty divided on pickles. There's a lot of, like, They call them gherkins over there. They don't like a pickled cucumber. Really? Yeah. They call them gherkins over there.

They do, yeah. But is it similar to olives where there's like just a percentage of the population that can't? Could be, yeah. You know what I mean? Or cilantro, too, the soap taste. But I don't think, I think they're just being snooty. Do you like cilantro? I love cilantro.

Me too. I love cilantro. Yeah, you either. I'm not a fan, but it doesn't taste like soap to me. Okay, you just don't like it. I'm not fond of the taste. I'm Amelia either. You have the cilantro gene?

I don't think it quite tastes like soap. Although if I get like a leaf of, cilantro on something like a full leaf I really hate that. I don't mind to like mixed into things but raw cilantro it does I don't want to say it tastes like I put soap in my mouth but it doesn't taste good. I love it. I have the gene where I like it.

Yeah, me too. I'm with you. Also, I feel like Amelia, you could have the gene where it tastes like soap and you still would like it. So I don't know. Do you remember what Amelia thought she was getting free samples and it was pieces of soap? Oh my goodness. Wait, what did the person do?

Maybe. Was it like a person outside of like lush or something with soap and then they No, it was little jars of cheese blocks and I ate one and it was it wasn't cheese. It was so... So it's funny that you say it was little jars of cheese blocks. But were you in a

grocery store or what was the context for this? No, it was just outside, outside of a soap store. Well, I can't help you there. Some context clues there. Yeah, girl, that's dope. That way is like, that's not cheese.

So it's a soap so sore I would eat a cilantro salad straight up just all cilantro No you wouldn't Yeah I would do it right now Fine order me a cilantro salad I'll do it We can get one at a sweet green I'll eat the fucking cilantro salad

I'll prove a point Mitch I wouldn't believe you said I would eat a salad Straight up Salon't don't dunk in front of my friends Sorry sorry He's getting red again Okay here we go yeah you're the burger boy That's true I'm the spoon man That's right

Pickle girl. Your dad has a much cooler nickname than both of us. Yeah, yeah. The Nigerian nightmare. That's right. I did not know this. The Kansas City Chiefs running back, Christian Akoya, your father. Yeah.

Amazing. Yeah, that's my dad. Wow. Crazy. We got to ask, as far as eating goes, was your dad, I mean, you think of an NFL player, was he just, he loves food, right? He has to love food. He, okay, he loves food, but he's a very particular.

man. And he is a creature of habit. So he has the same thing every single day. Oh, wow. My dad was the same way. My dad would eat a turkey sandwich for lunch every day. That's what he did every single day. And like growing up, it was the same for me. Like everything that I would get for lunch. It was like a roast beef sandwich about that thick with like a slice of cheese about that thick. He would make it the way that he liked it for you. Yes. I'm like, dad, I can't eat all this. And he's like, eat it. I'm like, I can't. This is a lot. That's a lot of me.

Six-year-old. What are you doing? I mean, we'd be in hog heaven. Why, guys, that sounds fantastic. Yeah. But you also said that your dad had, and this is, we thought this was very cool. What? He had his shoes up at Applebee's.

Yes. Oh, no, because we were talking earlier, and my dad is kind of obsessed, I feel, like, with chain restaurants. I love it. So he's just a creature of habit, like I said. So it's like, it's comforting because you know you're going to go to a place and it's going to be exactly. predictable consistent and that's one thing we do we evaluate on Mitch when we're talking about these chains is like are they consistent across locations that's one thing you're yeah yeah it's an important part of our thesis with job boys uh-huh uh-huh are they consistent across the thing uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh so he loves apples apples bees loves mimi's cafe loves luciles but apple bees in our hometown the way that it used to be set up was that there was like hometown heroes and so there was

There was, like, photos, signed posters and shoes. My dad's shoes were in the corner. So, you know, while you're having your, like, grilled cheese, you can just, like, look up. And there's Christian-Aquay's shoes. We were in the high corner? Yeah. Where they held up with. They were in a shelf.

On a box. That's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing. Like, right next to, like, a poster of him, like, this really famous one of him with, like, claws, like, breaking a football. And there's, like, players underneath a bed that kind of. Yeah, it's a pattern of like a field, you know. So he was, your family was dining in at this Applebee's where his memorabilia is?

Yeah, he loved it. I can't tell you how cool I think it is. I mean, that fucking rule. I think that rule, I mean, that would be a dream come true, I think, for either of us. Yeah. If they put our shoes up, they put these fucking ratty-ass shoes up in a local. I don't know. Those aren't bad.

They're, they need to be replaced. They're near their end. But I could see those in Applebee's. You don't have your Celtics hat. Oh, there you go. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man.

It has to be something like signature to you, I feel. That's what the thing is with the... If there's a restaurant in Quincy who wants my shoes, I will give them my shoes. I don't know. Is that like, sanitary? Is that like okay? If you put them in a glass box or something, I'm sure. Is it still weird?

It is weird. I think it's weird. On that note, Mitch, we did a George Lucas talk show when we did that charity live stream and we auctioned off a pair of our socks, one of my... and one of yours, and someone spent $1,400 on it. That's right. Like off your body? Yeah, no, like, I was like, this is a worn sock.

Like, I took it out of my hamper, so. But that was the sort of thing, that does not seem sanitary. And also that person is, I guess, very charitable. We're also very depraved. Like, what are they up to with that? Yeah. I mean, I think that they're putting that sock on, but not on their feet. Oh, no.

They're fucking that sock. Ooh, yeah, for that much? They're going to get good use out of that sock They're causing your long COVID They're like doing voodoo with your sock Oh shit Emma why'd you put that in my fucking dad? Hey, cut the shit

Don't do the COVID with the sock Don't do that It's not cool That's what you're doing Cut it out I don't want Don't do vood on me please I can't tell you how many episodes

Where I beg people not to do voodoo on me It happens all the time Wait wait wait While we're in dad territory Salem you also have a notable father You're telling us about Yes. Yes.

Wait. Yay. I love talking about my dad. He's just such a cool dude. He was the first Korean American General in the Army Reserve. Wow. He still has like a very, he's retired now from the Army, but is still like, it has a very, like, prevalent position in like, you know, he teaches a lot of classes. And he's also a professor as well.

Both my parents are professors. Wow. Whoa. And it's just like has been all around the world. I just got back from a trip to Korea with my family. Amazing. Where he was raised, which is here he was from. Have you been before?

No, I'd never been. Wow. He was adopted when he was 13 and moved to the States, but he, like, he lived on the streets in Korea because he was kicked out of his house when he was a young boy. Oh, my God. And just, like, made his own story for himself, like, in America. And, you know.

became a general and like had five kids and like you know all this crazy stuff that it is very like it's so funny when someone mentions their dad i'm like let me talk about my dad too he's so cool you have you have yeah that's that's that's an incredible story and you have you have is your four siblings yes are they are they all girls three girls one boy but they're all actors as an acting family yeah my oldest sister doesn't act anymore but the rest of us and she used to though, an actress for a few years as well as us when I was younger and everything. And yeah, now it's me and some of my siblings

still trying our best to crawl her way up to the business. Yes, Mike Mitchell, you have a question? I have a statement. Yes, statement. I was going to say this. When you're in Toronto, and you would say I have a nice voice, why, because I don't have a bad voice.

Yeah, you've a nice voice. As a singing voice. When you go to karaoke with, someone who's performed on Broadway was in Greece live on TV and someone from high school the musical the musical the series

you're gonna get you're gonna get blown out of the fucking water by these two it's insane it was incredible I was like you know I was getting up there I was like I'm gonna sing some oasis or some bullshit and like try to impress them but to be fair like you can sing

that's very kind of you because you guys are everyone could that's what blew my mind at karaoke Oh, he wants to. I kind of want to, but I don't know what to sing. Come on. Here we go. Here we go. Take me out to the ball game.

Smart to go public domain. We're not going to get demonetized on Spotify. All right, now you guys are going to sing a verse of taking me out to the ball. You can hear how good they are to put you on the spot. No. I just wanted you to sing. All right, that's fair. Fine, I'll do it.

Okay, now you're doing. Take me out to the crowd. Wow. See? They're not falling. following us. They're not doing it. Buy me some peanuts and crackers.

Saylor doesn't know the words. I don't care if I never come back. Can be honest with you? That's the worst I've ever heard. Both of you sing in my entire life. Don't be mean. I'm just kidding.

Try not to show us up. Yeah, Michelle. Come on. You sound like shit. We also look like shit. That's the weird thing about it. karaoke though it's like i enjoy it but i also am not i'm not trying to did i kind of did it seem like we were showing off when we did karaoke no honestly i was my fear we were also

like the first three to show up that day yeah it was just the three of us and they were like and then me and um i'm usually the first guy there we sang a duet we did we started we did we did we did we did we did do wicked no we started to take me or leave me which of course is like a big showy like song yeah for funzies it's from rents if you don't know our voices weren't shot yet. So I was just like forcing the belt out of me. It was fresh. It was good. I get what you're saying though,

like your performer instinct because you don't want to be like hammy up there. You don't want to be like, I'm trying to put the spotlight on me, but you also have to do a good job. So it's like it's like that balance. You guys were very, very, very good. And very super talented and it was great. I enjoyed watching it. And then also it was like. Everyone could sing. Everyone went around. It was kind of crazy.

Like everyone, it blew my mind. When Mike Shaw, you know, Mike Shaw's kind of a more quiet guy. You know, he does, you know, I guess he's not loud and annoying like a lot of the other comedians that were up there filming stuff. Johno. Me, Jono, Lisa.

We're all gonna, we're all gonna be talking and be loud and annoying. And Mike Shaw was kind of like quiet and then he came up and just like saying a like just this beautiful song. It was fantastic. No, he's saying like Usher. Nope, Backstreet Boys.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I want it that way. Didn't he also sing like a very legit song at one point? Like a very. We sing, um, shallow, I think. Maybe that's what it was. Yeah.

And Taj came in and had a great voice, too. It was their first karaoke. It was first time ever karaoke, too. His first time karaoke and he came in, he was like, I was like going through, he was like visiting multiple weed stores. And then he came in and he just belted like this fucking perfect song. I was like, what the ball? After ripping a bong, can you imagine?

He's fresh off the bong. It sounds like, wow. Wow. Wise, you commented that your guys are both very talented, way more talented us, but then also you commented that we also look like shit. You wanted to make that point that we both like shit. Yes. And I felt it very much so when I was eating ice cream and there was just ice cream in my

beard the entire time. Well, also, you say to Amelia, I don't like any ice cream in my beard. And Amelia says, neither do I. And we're like, what do you mean? And you mean you don't like seeing Mitch get ice cream in his beard? I don't like watching other people get stuff in their beard. Yes. I'm with you.

Yeah, I know. Because I have to say something. Yeah. And you're not, you're going to feel weird about it. But I'm going to say something because I'm like, oh, I want you to hear you. I like that. I will always say something to me. And he said it to me today.

He said, there's cone in your beard when I was talking to you guys. And I get it out. Okay. Cone fragment. Yeah. Cone is intense. There was a full cone. A full cone.

One full cone. Cone. Just hanging in there. It was before we got to ice cream. I was, I came in and there was a cone on my beard. Wow. But, yeah, you guys are both very talented singers and actors, but, uh, you don't forget that part. Sorry, both parents with actors as well.

In Greece Live, in high school musical, the musical series. Oh, that was fast. I know, I'm learning it. Laughing so hard that you just keep saying Greece Live. Greece Live. That's your legacy T. Because it was like in the ensemble with a neck brace. You know?

People don't come up to you every other day being like, you're using the neck brace girl. Yeah, you're right. They do. They do. We're not far from one of the Greece high school actual locations. Yeah, that is going to get bombarded. We're never going to see her again. The crowd's going to take her away.

Yeah, we can't go there. They're going to be like next grade for all. And also, I'm sure a bunch of doughboys fans will waddle up at some point, too. Obviously. Any high school we're at is a Greece high school. Let's talk pickles. So do you like the little chips? Like the little, like a dill chip?

Like fried? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you going spear or are you going chips? I go spear. I love them both. I like them both, but I mean like like obviously spears on a sand or I mean chips on a sandwich. Chips on a sandwich. Chips on a sandwich, yes.

But, but yes, like fried pickles are a lot of fun. And that was the thing that I didn't used to like that. I used to thought it was weird to bite into something, you know, that was crunchy and salty, but then also was sour inside. But now I'm like, I love it. I love that soury burst. Yeah. Yeah.

What about like pickle chips? Like fried chips? Yes, yeah. Like potato chips? Love that. No, no, no. Like, they're, like, pickles. Oh, they're just really, really tiny and thin.

Or, like, French fry pickles. Yeah. Like, that's what I mean. Like, for sure. Do I get my hands on them? Do you never have that? Like, just, like, really thinly sliced pickle, yeah. You know what I mean.

Yeah. Not like fried pickles. Not like a battered fried spears. That's what I mean. Yes, yeah. Because I also, they have fried pickles that are just like the tiny little circles. Yeah, no, no, no. I'm talking an actual pickle that is deep fried.

I don't think, yeah, I've never, I didn't even, yeah, I don't know about that. Wow. I live in both worlds. They're both fun. Yeah. Here's a question for you. Now, that'll dip in ranch. Yeah, of course.

Now that. Here's a question for you. I'll dip in ranch. Where does the pickle go from here? In my stomach. I mean, as far as, where does the pickle go from here? I'm talking pickle tech. What is the future of your pickle?

No. I'm putting on my. Pickle dust? What's the future of pickle tech? Well, also, what are you? Where's your PowerPoint? What did you say? What was it? You didn't say it was in a thesis, but what do you say you were? My dissertation? Your dissertation. I'm writing my dissertation on pickles. Yes. Um, we have two Bruins here, by the way. Uh, wise. That's right. Yeah. Trouble Bruin. Yeah. We both went to UCLA. Yeah, except you were a math major. That's right. And I was a theater major. So we were on different, kind of different tracks. Yeah. Yeah, just a little bit. You were a math major? Yeah, I was. Were you really? Yeah. You didn't know that. Why you had to say it like that? That's really like that.

I've said it many times. Yeah. Like the three of us knew that right here. Oh, really? You were a cinematography major with a screenwriting emphasis. I was. I remember a cinematography major with screenwriting emphasis. Do you feel seen and known and loved because you just said that?

He remembers because he knows. Yeah, no, I do feel better than he does it. To be fair, he doesn't have, he doesn't have long COVID. It's not my fault that he was a fucking nerdy-ass math major. He didn't do anything with it. You should go into math. I worked in the video game industry for many years. Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah. What did you do? What was your personality? I was a design. I started off as a game tester in QA, and then it was also answering phones and customer support, and then I worked as a game designer for several years before I transitioned into this bullshit. Wait, so what's your favorite video game? Wow.

This is such a stat. No, I think, recency bias, a hoy, but I have recently, you know, I played through it twice in its entirety and love it so much, and it's got some incredible depth. this game I've put over 300 hours of my life into Balders Gate 3 I would say is my current answer

for favorite game of all time but it always shifts Wow Are you all gamers Are those like narrative games Like you have to like story of games Yes yeah Okay

But that's what I lock into Like that's what I those are the games I always liked I always was more into a single player experience Like I'm reading a book As opposed to like a social experience Like a multiplayer game I can get into the new cart

The new Mario card Yeah I don't care He and I both got Switch is, I know I'm a 42-year-old man who's talking about being into Mario Kart. No, I'm kind of over Mario Kart's just as I'm kind of over Smash Brothers.

Like I always get the new iteration but they don't seem to get their hooks in me anymore. But Saylor, you were starting to say were you talking about your gaming habit? I was going to say I feel like progressively each time like a new Mario Kart comes out, it like I get more and more disappointed. Yeah, sure.

I like, because there's also there's just such an innate and deep love for like the first in the The original when it was there. Yeah. That like it, like I want to love it and I want to like really enjoy it. Because in the OG, like I got everything down to a science where I was like, okay, I finished this. Like I know how to get like exactly the way that I need to through Rainbow Road and like beat everybody.

Sure. That like I wanted new things to be more enticing as exciting as exciting as they were the first time. But I think they're just making like weird decisions. They're trying to like reinvent the wheel a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Keep it simple. You got to keep it simple.

I get what they're doing with the open world stuff, but it's just, all right. But they should have made it. Also, they should have made it more of a story mode or something instead. There was opportunity there and they didn't do it. I loved like the classic Mario, like Super Mario Brothers. Are you, are you a gamer? Wait, wait, wait. Do you remember when I brought my Game Boy Advance?

You played it. I did play it. Okay, so I like. It was great. Refurbished my like Game Boy Advance, my old one. I found it and I gave it a new body. I was in this like very nostalgic period when we were doing. um twisted metal and so i i found my old game boy i fixed it up and i got new games for it well

not new games but old games sure and i brought it to set and that was like my it was huge for me i don't want to scroll i want to play video games that was what you brought you brought it to set and my mom and sister were visiting set and they were watching stuff and i was like this is great and i just i just played i played mario and didn't pay attention to what was going on it was perfect for me because i didn't want you know you when you're you know you don't want you know you don't You don't want to necessarily be on set when you don't have to be on set. Yeah. You get some downtime.

Yeah, yeah, sure. No, but I'm saying you were used to. And then my mom and sister were like, cool. And they were watching you in a scene and you were being great. But I was watching Mario. You were playing her Game Boy. You weren't watching me, Mitch. You hear in the background of T's close of, do, do, do, do, exactly.

There was a moment where I did make noise and I had to turn down. Someone's playing. Is that Super Mario about it? Wait, what do you say the, I'm curious about, Both of you, like, when you say the OG, like, which, which Mario Card are you talking? Oh, yeah. I guess I, I guess I couldn't name it exactly. Right.

But you're playing on a GameCube on Nintendo 64? No, it's like, it's like, it's like the first disc that came out for the literal Wii station. Okay, sure. That's what I'm talking about. Okay, because the original was like. So it was like Super Nintendo, which is like, I remember playing. We were pissed off right now.

You would have to like blow up. Do you remember the cartridge? Yeah, yeah, yeah. and I know that a ton of people have What are you texting again? I'm looking something up again For the show I can't get away with anything

on this damn show Why was pissed at you because of a Well he has see Look he has his fucking thing there It looks professional It looks professional I know I get it Mine doesn't look as professional

But guess what It is just as professional And I can't find what I'm looking What is the Nintendo was cool I didn't grow up with the Nintendo I was like a PlayStation girl. Okay. So I had like Crash.

Crash Bandicoe, yeah, for sure. I loved that game. So that's kind of your way into games in general. Like, what's the old Mario entry you like? Or when you're talking about playing on Game Boy Advance, what you're playing? Oh, on my Game Boy Advance? Yeah. Color.

Or, wait, say that again. What's the, which Mario entry were you like into back in the day? Oh, um. Super Mario World. I think it was Super Mario World. Okay, yeah. It's on Game Boy Advance. Yeah.

Yeah. Wait, no, what was the one that was in the cartridge on the Nintendo? On the original Nintendo? Just Super Mario? There was Super Mario Brothers on the N-E-S. I think it was that. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, I remember playing that at camp. Wow, okay, there you go. Yeah.

Yeah. That's, I mean, that was my way in. Yeah. Well, you were in was what? The original Super Mario Bros. on the 8-bit Nintendo. Oh, sorry, I was looking stuff up. What did you learn when you were looking stuff up? I learned some good stuff.

Oh, yeah. I'm a Texas sailor again. Oh, God. We should pivot to ice cream Because that's one thing That's one thing we're done Unless you had something else you wanted to come on it No, sweet tooth's favorite treat

Ice cream Is it really ice cream? He's got a sweet tooth I mean he has an ice cream truck He's really not obvious about it He's not obvious about it You're right There is no real ice cream ref ball

No not really He doesn't he doesn't I mean he wears the clown mask And there's a clown truck but there is, he's not eating ice cream. Ever. Look, we'll bring this up on showrunners. Does he even like ice cream?

Is he lactose intolerant? In the first season, he's like, does he take his pills? He takes pills. That's what he does. He takes, oh, does he take lactate? Yeah. That's a reveal.

Does he take milk pills? He takes crazy pills. Right, right, right. Like, he's like, and I mean that in the, I don't, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I say crazy pills because he's taking a crazy dose of crazy pills. pills together. That's what we're trying to say. Yeah. But Jesus Christ.

Take a moment. You're talking about the mental health crisis in America? Yes. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying. It's not what you're saying. He has a mix of different pills. A large amount of different medications. Hey, I'm on some of those crazy pills. I don't think that they're crazy at all. I think they're good. They're good. I think Sweet Toots should take them more regularly and a better don't.

But he calls them like candies and skittles. That's what he does in the first season. But you never see him, you never see Sweet Tooth of the Cone. I mean, we never never seen it with his face, his mask off. So we don't have the opportunity to see him. I mean, he couldn't like stick to stick it in there. He could probably stick it in.

I mean, he could stick it in there if he wanted to. But there's no. Yeah, how does he eat? I've been walking on eggshells to not be a freak. And then you're the freak. I mean, he could stick it in there if you want. You're the freak in the end? I try not to be.

Surprise it's me. I'm the free He could I'm sure he could But we don't see it Maybe if there's a season three Hopefully There we'll see some

I think it's just assumed But he likes ice cream Because it's sweet And his name is sweet tooth And the apocalypse Ice cream probably a hard thing to come by Sure yeah not readily available Yeah

So okay so where do you Where do you all stand on ice cream In your hierarchy of desserts Because for me it's number one I like that's my favorite dessert That's actually amazing I might have to agree Wow.

Because I am not a big sweet person, actually, but ice cream will always get me. I like my ice cream and my coffee sweet, and that's almost it. Well, because it could also be like a little savory. Exactly. Especially at a place like salt and straw. Yes. It could be a little savory, you know? Like that, like I got like the honey lemon so good, so yummy.

And not even like really sweet. Like it was very citrusy. And the ones that's not sweet, that's just like that really crazy. savory, like, deep chocolate. Right. I don't, I don't, I don't need a savory. There was a tomato and grue gruerre. Wait, at salt and straw?

At salt and straw. We had a taste of it. I did take, me and Emma, me and Emma both tasted it. Yeah, we did. What about how did you like it? We tried it directly after trying a chocolate covered potato chip flavor, and I think we should have done it the other way around. Chocolate was so strong, and then the tomato greer was like such a different flavor.

So I don't think I fully get that. What it was? I can't. I think I can't. I like to try a bike because I was like, I have to see what this is, but I don't think I'd ever order it. Yeah. Tiana, where, how about you?

Like, where in your hierarchy of desserts and your dessert tier list? Where is ice cream exactly? I think I have different tiers. Okay. Yeah, but it's pretty, it's pretty high up there. I like ice cream with like apple pie. I want something that's a little warm with my ice cream. What's like your number one sweet treat?

Tiana, I'm right there. Chocolate. Just straight up like, do you mean like a bar? Or chocolate. Do you mean like a chocolate cake? No, no, this couch is aligning. The Jemmy couch is aligning here. The Jemmy couch, which Taylor was very upset with.

She not only did she not... No, did you not get Jemmy, you have to sit on the couch with Wager. Awesome names about it, too, though, unless we have to come up with a cool name for our couch. The no dog couch, maybe? Yeah, probably the no fun couch because of no dog. No dog equals no fun. Wow. That's insane.

I think we're having a blast over here. I think we're having such a... Wow. Wow. Wow. Jemmy just left. Somebody's getting left behind. That is actually pretty fucked up.

Amelia is in huge trouble. That was really... You can't even call it to jump to direct shot of Jemmy's butt hole right now. It was your chance to try to get on the couch over there. Yeah, Jimmy is just showing butthole. Jimmy! Jimmy! Jimmy, come over here.

Come here. Come on. Come to Uncle Wiggs. Come to Uncle Wiggs. Come here, Jimmy. Come here, Jimmy. There's a jemmy-shaped thing in the wall after she runs out of the room and Wig says come to Uncle Wags. Is it anything chocolate?

We're talking like a chocolate chip cookie. We're talking like a brownie, a chocolate cake. Okay, I'm not the biggest fan of brownies. I love a good chocolate chip cookie. And I've been trying to perfect it myself. Oh, wow. Just iterating on different recipes. Yes.

Where do you stand right now? Do you do some brown butter or something? Like what is your secret? I love a brown butter. My secret is a tiny bit of molasses. actually. Wow. That's fun. Yeah, because I like, I like it to be a tiny bit crispy on the sides, but I want it to still be like mushy in the middle. Yes. So when you break it apart, it's not all going to crumble because it's just overcooked, right? It's just going to like

nicely bend. That's my kind of cookie. And you're just married. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. Wow. What did you do? What did you do food-wise at your wedding? Oh, well, we got married in Mexico and to loom, and so we just did, like, uh, like grilled meats and vegetables and stuff, tacos. It was great. That's awesome. Yeah. Your lovely husband, uh, Brendan, and I'm, like, I'm very self-conscious. It's Brendan, not Brandon. No, it's Brandon. Oh, it is Brandon. Fuck. I was about to get so nervous. I was like, it's Brendan. I'm sorry, Brandon. That was about to blow my mind with an A. I was like, I am a guy who's always saying, let's go Brandon. Yeah, exactly.

I thought they would know this. I should know that pretty much off the top of my head. It's your favorite phrase, right? I was, oh my God, Brandon, I'm so sorry. This is the thing that I always fuck up with Brendan, Brandon. I always, and people are very specific about it, too. It's like, I know. I don't think he cares too much.

Brandon. If you had just said it, he would have never picked up, you know? I feel like it's always Brandon. I should always go with Brandon over Brendan. My mom is Corrine and she always gets Corinne instead of Corrine. Sometimes you just get to the shot. Brandon, I'm sorry. Remen also, though...

Oh, my God, the false start. She's, Gemmy is in the... For audio listeners, Gemmy is in the process of shifting couches. She's potentially moving out of the couch with... Oh, my God. How dare you? Come on.

Up she comes. There we go. Tiana mispronounce Jemmy's name, too, just like... So we're both fucked up really bad over here. I know. I'm sorry. Similarly, just as bad. She's over there.

She sensed. I got her name wrong in advance. Brennan, great guy. Also, he's... He had a lot to say about... He wants... He wants to come on a pod. Oh, he was jealous. Yeah, he was jealous that I was coming here today.

He was like, what are you going to talk about? And I'm like, stop it. He's like, I'm the one that knows about all the food. And I'm like, okay, all right. I'm the one who's had food before. Yeah, he's like, I eat. Great argument. Is he a foodie?

Yeah. Like, do you cook a lot in your home? Do you go out to eat a lot? Like, what is the routine? Yeah. We've been trying to cook at home just like, you know, for just to, just to, cook at home for sure do you have any go-to dishes um lately we've been making like salmon bowls oh that's fun so it'd be like yeah grilled salmon with some seaweed salad and edamame and like white jasmine

coconut rice wow and some cucumbers that sounds good as hell yeah thank you thank you maybe bernas got a point no but he does love going out i mean we're talking about holl and rays he'll take me to like different spots that he's seen like on youtube you know you said we're going to get back to hall and Ray's, do you want us to share your thoughts? Have we all been? Have you been? Yes, we reviewed it on the podcast with Camille. Oh, I'm sorry.

I missed it. Damn. You didn't listen to one of our 500 episodes? No, I'm sorry. The fact that you listen to one is more than enough. Okay. So my thoughts, I haven't listened, so you'll tell me after. Okay.

I love, I know it's Nashville-styled, like, fried hot chicken, right? But it just, the chicken was good. The chicken was good. The spice was too much. Too much spice. What level did you get? Like mild. Yeah.

It's hot. It's still too hot. And also the fries were seasoned the same as the chicken, which I didn't like. I feel like the fries should be like ginger for sushi. Like it's like going to cleanse the palate. Oh, I like that. It's going to like cleanse the palate. And then you just like do it again.

You know what I mean? Take another bite. We also got way too much chicken. Sure. So we got like half a chicken. And then we got some like chicken strut. drips or tenders or something like that. I preferred the tenders.

That was just easier to eat, even though I love a bone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I also, it just, it was hard to eat. And I don't like it when it's too hard to eat. No, I like, I like how old. You know who else loves a bone? What's that? Who's that nature?

Sitting right between you two. The dog who's on our couch. A dog. You're looking very, honestly, you're looking a little too fucking satisfied over there, sailor that the dog came to your couch. I know if I'm liking it. I think I'm going to start to. Stroking the dog's helping.

I had, I'm something of a heat seeker, so I will, I do like Howland Rays. I do like that it's actually spicy. What you commented on with the strips versus the tendies versus the bone-in, although I prefer bone-in chicken where you're doing something really spicy, the main issue for me is the little lips, right? So like you kind of like a tender, it's easier to like get past that point. You get those burny lips, there's nothing you can do. You know, it's no recovery. I know.

Yeah. But I do think it's really well done. You got to throw it in there. You just kind of got a hot. Yeah, I think when it comes to Hall and Rees, I think I can just get the tendies. Right. I would love to see you try that right now. Throw a tender in my mouth?

If you had a tender here, I would do it. He had a cilantro salad. I'd eat it. Lucky for you. I always keep one in my back pockets. This guy has a huge mouth on him. He actually could do it. He's got a huge mouth.

I do a big mouth. Sorry, I didn't mean to point out. Yeah, open up right now. Show it off. Show us conscious about showing your mouth to her. Show the mouth. Show the mouth. So the context.

I was dealing with oral facial pain. I saw an oral facial pain specialist, a DDS, who helped me out a lot. And as part of the process, he measured my jaw, and he said it was, I was in the top 1% of mouth sizes and was one of the biggest mouths he'd examined in, like, his 30-year career.

Wow. Did he give you a metal? Do you know that they're doing that remake of Anaconda? Wags is doing the motion capture for it. Shut up. Congratulations. Is that the job that you got? Congrats.

He's slithering on the ground and opening his mouth. I'll open up. I'll do it to this camera here, but you can see. Showed off, you freak. He could throw a tender down that. Oh, Sailor, you also. Was it? Yeah, that's pretty big mouth.

That's so funny. It's not like the beetle juice level, mouthwives has. I'm not that big. Head, some ears, a nose. I have you guys, so do you know that your wing span from finger? to finger is supposed to be your height, right? It's supposed to match it. It roughly corresponds.

That's going to be, I'm going to be taller than that. A lot of professional athletes, perhaps your father have longer wingspans than their height because it's an advantage to have lengthy limbs. But that's a big thing with NBA players. You think your dad would send Dwiger and I a couple of U-Socks? Jesus Christ, bitch. How much were the $1,400? Yeah, it was like $1,400?

For $1,400. Can we get a pair of U-S socks? He was wildly inappropriate. So funny. Yeah, what are you using those for? It was a reference to earlier. You know it's not, you sickle? I can't be a freak.

You're gross. I can't be a little freak. You got freaky? I'm going to get freaky. It's only fair I get a little freaky before the episode ends. We should talk about ice cream trucks specifically because it is a big part of the Twist of Metal Canon. Do you like them? Do you hate them?

Yeah, and what is your go-to? because I used to go and get the big stick. It was like a big popsicle. Like a rock pop? Yeah, exactly. Oh, the one with all the different colors. Sometimes, and sometimes it would be like the red, white, and blue, but sometimes it would also be like an orange and sort of purply and pink, you know,

sort of tropical sort of presentation. But I'll do that, but then I eventually moved over to Chip Wiches. Yeah, it was kind of big stick neck, yeah. But then they go to Chip Witches, and I was getting, you know, like a cookie sandwich a lot of times. But you ever would go to from an ice cream truck? Yes. Okay, well, first of all, I broke my arm running to an ice cream truck. Oh, my God.

Wow. That's a childhood nightmare. Yeah, I broke my arm. That's horrible. Had a broken arm for 24 hours. We didn't know. Oh, my God. Yeah, my mom was like, you're okay, you know?

And I was like, yeah, I'm fine. Like, it hurt when it happened, but then. I broke my arm for the first and only time on set. That's the truth. What? When we were, I was, I did a sketch show. He does his own stunts. I did, I did do, I was doing my own son.

We did it, we did a sketch show on IFC. called the birthday boys it was my old sketch group and uh i've told us on the show before but i just got very somber in here i i i i broke my radial head i ran through a door my girlfriend tells me that she's pregnant and i run through a door uh it makes sense in the context of the sketch and then i tripped over the lip of the of the door and i broke my radial head yeah you landed funny and that was where they i landed funny wow and you know what i landed funny also in the scene and they used it because it was a it was a good take it was a good take

they better it hurt Tiana so you're running after the ice cream truck you get too excited I did get ice cream you did get ice cream after I did get ice cream yeah it was so you were a tough kid then because I would have I would have been crying I definitely oh I cried it like it was like out of a cartoon like I like

because it was in the garage and we were playing with water it was in the summer okay and so the garage floor was all like wet and slick you know So I just right on my arm. Oh, damn. But yeah, anyway, my favorite ice cream on the ice cream truck, I would always go for the Mickey Mouse cookie, which was, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like the chocolate on the outside and then vanilla on the inside. And then. I just felt bad just biting into Mickey's head.

That was one of my issues. Yeah, he looked weird. He didn't look weird, yeah. Some weird Mickey spin-off. It was weird. The Timo Mickey, as they would say. Yeah, it was a T-Moo Mickey. No, is it like Walmart?

Are people saying Timu, Mickey? Yeah, that's what we did with like Walmart for a while, right? Like, oh, the Walmart version of Mickey Mouse. It is, it is, it is a Walmart version. What were you thinking over there? What's going on? No, I was just thinking of biting into the Sonic. I like biting into Sonic ice cream.

Like the power pump or Spider. You liked biting into Sonic's head? Yeah, I like it. Wait, what was the other one that was kind of like that? That had like the bubble gum eyes. Oh, Tweety Bird. No, it was the Tweety Bird. Oh, the Tweety Bird.

Yeah. There was a Ninja Turtle one. Yes. Yeah. I loved the Tweety Bird. I loved the Mickey Mouse, and then there was also, like, a strawberry shortcake one. Oh, those are fun. Yeah.

With, like, the stuff on the outside. Yeah. You haven't mentioned the one I got a lot, which was the chaco taco taco. That was one of my. Chaco taco. What's that? That was oftentimes a premium. You don't know a chocolate taco.

No. Wow. What's that? You would, as a chocolate fan, you would like them. It was, it was like a taco shell filled with vanilla ice cream and then chocolate on top. Like a, and it was a waffle cone and shell form factor. Yeah. Very good.

And then fudge inside of it too, I believe, like a fudge with the vanilla ice cream. Chaco Taco Taco was my, that was my go-to. You know what? They did discontinue them, but I think they stayed away. They're back. They're back. I think they are back. They're back.

I feel like that's such a classic childhood favorite of so many people that I know. It's just like the Chaco Taco. I wonder if they have them next door. We'll see. Let's see. I don't think they have them at salt and straw. No, no, not at salt and straw. At the place, the liquor store next door, they might.

Oh, maybe. When's the last time you got ice cream from an ice cream truck? Wow. As an adult, I mean, if I'm chasing an ice cream truck, I think the guy's not going to stop. I think that he's not going to slow down. I feel like, you know, as an adult man. What if there's already kids there and you're like, hey, I think I want some ice cream? I haven't done that from a, God, it's been, it's been decades.

I'm going to guess May. Me too. I know you're laughing that I was. I was doing the genuine I was doing the actual research in my head Yes Oh I thought you were guessing for us May No no no no no no no no I'm saying for me

I was I wasn't hearing what any of you guys were saying Just now I was thinking in my head I was like when was the last time I went to an ice cream truck I do think it was like early May yes What did you get? I do I can I just point out sailor I got a snow cone Oh that's fine What was that?

Siler I just want to point out that since Jemmy has sat on your couch You have gone almost dead silent And you're just petting the dog this is me like this is and her phone is nowhere in sight I walk it's like it's so crazy and stupid and a little

like people always say but yeah I walk into a party if there's a dog there like I'm hanging out in the corner with it you know it's just like dogs are literally we don't deserve them and whenever I get to be around one

I'm just like oh best day ever we like having Jemmy here for the I know it's actually so amazing there was a previous question or a previous statement and I don't recall what I was saying. You had a snow cone. Yeah.

Oh, I had a snow cone. And, well, here's why I catch the ice cream truck so often still. I play pickleball all the time at a park. Wow. Wow, you are pickleball. Yeah, you are pickle nuts. No, she is. And you always hear it.

And you always can hear it drive by. And it's the same truck that used to drive around my neighborhood when I lived in the hills of Burbank. Because the park that I go to is like down more in the next to the city of Burbank. And it comes all the time. and I am always bringing my friends to pickleball because I don't like playing alone so I'm always like, everybody come. And it's just like a fun thing

because then I'm just like hanging out with my friends and we play pickleball and we hear the ice cream truck and we're like, oh my God, might as well. Like let's go get some like one little stuff. I don't think I'm outdoors enough to, I don't think I encounter an ice cream truck in the wild that much anymore.

Do you guys? Well, in the city it's kind of hard. I feel like Burbank is a little bit more suburban. Burbank makes a lot more sense to find it running around for more residential. Yeah, they'll go in our neighborhood sometimes. They'll be a stray ice cream truck But yeah

I usually don't make the effort To queue up for it And in fact when I'm thinking My most recent ice cream truck experiences Mitch would have been at like a more You know like this is like a gentrified Upscale ice cream truck You know like a cool house

Which is the artisan Ice cream sandwich place they have That's a delivery trucks Settle with your ice We're just starting a band over here Don't mind us Man Every time I see a mic like this, I'm like, I wonder if they use it for ASMR.

We should pivot into ASMR. It would probably be more lucrative. It would be kind of, I always think that it would just be like dope, like especially because I have no experience and I know nothing about it. I would just be like, hey, everybody, hey, welcome back. First of all, you did something where you're making, also, also, first of all, you're making no noise. second of all, you did pull the top off of the actual microphone. Yeah, is that bad? I thought you squished it, like, away from the mic, so you got to do it like on the mic.

Yeah, it has to be like this. It has to be like this. Hey, welcome back to my boys. Are they not going to hear me if this is not on there? No, they'll hear you if that's on there. It just gets all the extra stuff out. It just goes like this. Hey, welcome back to Doe Boys.

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Salt and Straw was founded in 2011, Portland, by Cousins Kim Malik and Tyler Malik, owned in part by Dwayne the Rock Johnson. How about that? 40 locations previously reviewed in 2023. Yeah, there's only 40 as of now, but they are kind of... I feel like there's so much more.

Well, there's a number in L.A. Just didn't pay attention to me. I heard it. Who else is what I call my crib? I'm doing that guy from... You called that back? I'm doing. I'm doing.

I'm calling it back to the dude from the beginning of the episode who, uh, who, uh, the F-1 guy. The F-1 guy. The fucking guy. The fuck guy. The one fuck's given, yes. We reviewed it in 2020, Mitch with Neil Campbell and Annie Sandberg and landed in the Golden Plate Club. Wow.

It is known for it's intentionally weird. seasonal flavors, one of which Emma and I taste test is. We talked about, the tomato tart, but some of their more exotic flavors are the years. Bone marrow, devil-deg custard, Thanksgiving turkey. They do intentionally weird shit like that

just kind of like for people to order it as a dare. Thank you. Come on now. I agree. I don't need any of those. But I... You're getting too silly over there, salt and straw. Yeah, it's a little too silly. This is the issue because like it's just for marketing. Like that's why they're doing it. And it invites my least favorite kind

a guy, which is the, well, you're talking about it guy. You know what I mean? Like, hey, we're talking about it. Hey, it works. Gets attention. We're talking about it. It's kind of similar to my guy. The one who's like any press is good price. Exactly, yeah, right. Come back to the crib. That's that, that's that similar guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I call my crib the cool house.

What's up? I'll toss on F1. Whenever you're trying to do like an alter ego or like a, like impression. I'm a bad actor. It makes me laugh because all I see is you start, you always start putting your hand up and you're like yeah and it's always like

just these three fingers it's really funny like who are you gonna I just love it this is what I know for acting to change into a different character I do this

I use different hands I love it Sailor Tiana any thoughts going in on salt and straw specifically I actually like I've had salt and straw before

maybe like once or twice I think I was expecting to not like it as much as I did. Okay. Like usually I feel like sometimes I'll walk into a salt and straw and it'll have all these flavors. Then I'm kind of like, uh, nothing's like screaming my name. But this one next door, like it had all these things that I feel like I hadn't heard and or just hadn't tried because you guys led me onto the right path. But like it was like, it was so it like hit the exact right like tone that I wanted for that moment. Do you know any biases going

in? Had you had salt and straw previously? Um, I love salt and straw. Oh, wow. Okay. I do. Um, um, There's one by my house, and I like it. But I always gravitate towards the flavors that I'm familiar with, which is my issue. Right, because they have a rotating sort of roster, but they do have their staple flavors that are always there, you know, including one you got Mitch, the salted, malted chocolate chip cookie dough, which is like one of their signatures. So that they do have their staples that are always present. I got that one, too. I've had it in the past, and I haven't been as crazon. And I liked it a lot today.

I wish there was more cookie dough in it, though. This is what I was so good. You're right. There isn't a lot of cookie dough in it. Yeah. Sorry. No, go on. I have a question for you.

Yeah. Why do you hate dipping dots? Wait, you hate dipping dots? This was, I was discussing with the both of them places to go and sailor loves dipping dots. Like my favorite thing ever. And Tiana did not like. I went to Nigeria when I was like, I don't know, like five or six, five or six years old with my dad. Yeah.

And we went to go visit the rest of his siblings in Nigeria. and it was like a nice little trip for us, right? But on the way home, we got dipping, like, dip and dots were part of our meal or something. On the plane? It was weird. It was so weird.

And I got sick and I threw up. Oh, there it does it. It's my association with that. That's actually really fair. Yeah. Lemon chicken for me. I threw up while after eating lemon chicken and it's over. I don't like.

I like lemon and I like chicken, but I just don't like the combo of the two. I don't like lemon chicken. I feel like there's always something specific like that. Yeah. That just like, after you get sick, you can't. Oh, yeah. That's, it's funny.

Lemon chicken is the only one that, because I got sick after eating tuna once and I still, I went back to tuna. A lemon chicken I've never really gone back to. I do that too. I'll always end up going back, but certain things are just crazy. I can't eat tuckbooky anymore. Like the Korean dish that's like the fried, the rice cakes. Even so when you visited, you were just in South Korea not too long ago, right? Yeah.

Where were you? Did you go to Seoul? I was in Seoul and I went to judge you for a while. But we, like, went all around. Did you as an island, right? Yes. It was, like, its own tiny little island, like, 45 miles wide island. Wow.

Takes, like, you know, an hour to drive from one end to the other. And, yeah, it was, it was so magical food-wise, yes. Food was the best part, just going around, especially because there's just so many things around that are just, like, random little stalls open at, like, really random hours of the day. all different kinds of like even just coffee flavors or drinks or types of things that I had never heard that were so good so delicious so magical and it was really easy to be independent in Korea too with like moving around and getting where you want to go and like finding the right places so you could try a lot yeah yeah yeah yeah are you fan of Bong Joon Ho have you watched many of his movies no no you should he's a he's a salt Korean filmmaker who's great great director yeah yeah yeah yeah I'll get on that. I honestly, do you know, you want to know, I started watching those scary movies on the list. We were, we were making a list of horror movies for us. It was you, me and Anthony Carrigan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they both gave them both a shared notes app to make me a list of horror movies that I need to watch. I should add to that so it. What was on the list? What was, what was there? Literally, okay, first of all, the list is so long, which is actually really great because I got mad at you because I put some classics on there and then you came in, you were like, I watched like Jeep or, creepers or something I was like what the fuck are you doing you watch you watch you watch the list sailor first of all I've not yeah you love the director don't you okay I watch the director is a bad man

that's all I'll say um I watched the shining and the thing that that's I'm very happy with it was also those are two of my favorite horror movies of all time actually yeah I thought that was like those were really great ones to start off with because they are the like you could feel the classic like horror in them. What about Babadook? Is that on your list? Is Babadook on my list? Mike Mitchell? It should be on your list. I'll put Babadook on the list. I'll put Babadook on the list. I was going pretty nerdy with the picks already and I was like, some of these maybe are not. Mitch and I went to the Academy Museum where they have this amazing screening room. I remember 28 days later was on this list. I love 28 days later.

Great movie. Sorry, not to enter. No, not at all. The 28 years later is great too. And let me tell you. I'm really excited to see that. Have you seen weeks yet? Yes, I have seen weeks yet. All right, then you should see years. Let me tell you, Wags and I thought it was quite the treat. Quite an eyeful. You're back to the balladune is on this list. Oh, okay.

Yes. Okay, sorry, now continue. Mitch and I, just speaking of the thing and Bongchun Ho, Mitch and I went to a screening of the thing at the Academy here in L.A. And John Carpenter and Bongchun Ho spoke. We're there. Yeah, it's great. That's awesome.

I'll put some Bongchoo Home movies at the bottom of that list. Thank you. 28 years later is pretty long, I'd say, Wags. I think that's a good way to describe it. But also, it's really thick. Like, it's dense. It's thick, too. A lengthy, girthy film.

Yeah. There's a lot of hawk. They show a lot of male hog in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard. Oh, I forgot. I did hear about that, too. Yeah.

Yeah. A prosthetic. A prosthetic. It's a prosthetic. Very unrealistic. It took me out of the film completely. It would never happen. There's a bunch of new types of zombies.

There are, yes. Which I'm kind of excited about. I love it. I think it's the movie of the year for me so far. That's amazing. Natalie loved it, too. I loved it. Movie of the year?

Yeah, I liked Mission Impossible a lot. I like that. It's been a fun movie year. Yeah. I liked that. It's been a good year. I like materialist, but I did really like 28 years later. But I don't know what my favorite year is yet.

Yeah. Anyways, I'm sorry. I sidetracked us. I have not seen live action Lilo and Stitch yet. I do love the animated original. And I, there's, you know, the transition for animation to live action sometimes. I know. Well, they really do it, like, frame.

Frame by frame, it's, like, pretty identical. Did you like it? I did. Wow, okay. I did, but also, Brandon, my husband is like, like, he loves Lilo and Stitch. Yeah. Like, it was, like, his favorite movie growing up, you know, and he did an event for the movie. And so we currently have, yeah, yeah, you say that now, but, like, we have a live action stitch in front of our house right now because he took home this, like, live.

Like, I mean, it's a cardboard cut out, you know. know what I mean, but I'm like, why is this here? And he joked about it for the longest time. He was like, oh, yeah, I'm going to bring home the stitch. And I was like, no, you're not. Absolutely not. I'm not like that type of girl where you have. I'll say it again.

Let's go, Brandon. He did it once again. You mean Brendan. No, I do not mean Brendan. No, it's Brendan. Oh, don't fuck with me. That's why I corrected you. Wait, what are you saying, Brandon?

It's Brendan. It's Brendan. It's what I'm kidding. I'm fucking. Fuck. It's Tweezy. Brandon, dude.

Yeah, you got to make it a little harder. Tiana's driving me crazy. I don't know how you do it, Brandon, man. I got what you're doing, but also, that was just very convincing acting. Thank you. Fantastic actors.

They're both fantastic actors. Thanks, I'm available for hire. That won't be the case for long. Wait, so I'm curious, Mitch. Salt and Straw, we both like salt and straws. What's a weird duo of items?

Yeah, I agree. A salt and a straw? What are you going to do? You all don't just like stick straws into your salt and drink away? Salt? No.

Oh. Yeah, okay. Yeah, why that? I read the genesis of the name once and I've forgotten it. I'll look it up and but Mitch I'm curious it was or Amelia maybe if you're Emma, one of you wants to look it up.

The way it's produced, right? You used to make ice cream using rock salt and they would use straws to like put air down in to like keep it cold. and frozen, so I think it's like an old-school way of making ice cream of salt. Yeah, it was a reference of the preparation I knew in some general sense. But I don't like it. All right, fine. I don't like the name.

What would you rename it if you could? What is your 10 out of 10 star ice cream? Cream City is pretty good. Great, okay. You wouldn't know something? Cream City. Is the guy with the finger guns coming back? What of the stupidest things that I am obsessed with is the city bit where you're just like, you know, like you're in

mattress store and you're walking around with your friend and they just go, what is this mattress city? Like it just makes, it's really stupid. It's so stupid, but it makes me laugh. No, but that's why I love it. It was like, hey, let's go get ice cream. We're at Cream City, obviously. Let's pick up a plant from Cream City.

Go back to my crib. Do you think there's an ice cream shop in like the middle of nowhere that's called Cream City? Oh, I'm sure a Cream City must exist. Milwaukee is the Cream City. It is Cream City. Yeah. We got a, Mitch, we got Cream City hats, remember.

remember from a listener when we did a live show up there. They're great hats, but it's a man out of bucks. It's tricky. Right. It's a tricky territory for me because bucks, you know, I don't like the bucks. Yeah. Oh, I see. But I like Milwaukee quite a bit.

Lovely town. Yeah, lovely town. Lovely town. I. You walk in, walking inside a dough boy's live show audience. What is this, Beta City? Oh, no. Oh, my God.

Our listeners are pathetic. You're weak. You're weak men. Look, there's two. The men who listen. There's a couple types of zombies in 28 years later, and our listeners are very much one type of those zombies. There's not the alphas.

We'll just say not the alias. Got it, got it. So, okay, let's quickly. We've got to get into this ice cream here. Wait, I did want to ask before, but just a table setting. For you, Salt and Thrah, where does that rank? Because I think we both agree, Handles is number one. Handles is our favorite.

Handles is number one. I've come around quite a bit on Salt and Strang. I've got to say this. for season one of of twisted metal they were down at comic con it was during the actor's strike and we couldn't we couldn't go down there and we couldn't i couldn't go to comic conic on like it was a bummer and there was the premiere got canceled and all that stuff twisted monthel got canceled that was an event that we originally dubbed for the season one release this is twisted monthel two colon one because this is the first twisted monthel we're bringing it back yes um but we went on a trip we did a show. When we drove together, did we do a show in San Diego? Is that where we were?

Yes. We did the show in San Diego. Oh, was that, was that the show that your parents came to? No, it was a different show. It was with Neil and Fran. No, my parents didn't come to that one, though. Oh, they did come to that one. That was one of my brother didn't come to because he was like, sorry, bro, I'm going to see smashing pumpkins. That fucking was. His brother is an alpha. He is. And my guess is in every way.

He's like, I'm saying he's probably similar to those zombies. I was like, hold on the second. But we were driving back from there And I messaged Salt and Straw And I was like Hey, they had some of this ice cream That was like this like twisted metal ice cream Do you have any left?

And they put aside a pint for me at Salt and Straw It was like they saved some of the ice cream for me And I went and we got a million The Sweet tooth ice cream And we got a scoop Was it good? And it was good and they were very, very nice to do that And I and I

Then why are you shitting on Salt and Straw? I just said I didn't love the dame. I think Cream City is, of course, a better name. Obviously. What was the flavor of the ice cream? Like, what was sweet tooth? I feel like it was kind of like, like, a, like, birthday cakey, right? Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. But it was, it was good. Yeah. And they were very nice. And I've come around on them just in general. Look, oh, like ice cream. All ice cream is good ice cream, right? Like, I'm not, like, uh...

Is all ice cream good ice cream? I guess we're kind of getting into the thesis of this very month. I think, I think, I think, I think, I think that salt and straw sometimes when they go crazy with their flavors, you have a chance of not liking one of their flavors. They're trying to put a thumb in your eye sometimes. Try this mustard ice cream. I don't want it.

Okay, so if you have handles, where, so that's number one. What's number, what's next? I got handles, all right. Love handles. Aw. I think they isn't for anybody ones at all. Handles is probably up there as one of my favorite. ice cream shops.

Now, I mean, like, I have some allegiances to the back east places, but one of them doesn't exist. As far as, like, national concepts go or ones that have that sort of, that sort of footprint, I would put Andles number one. I might put Van Lewin after that. I was going to say, I was going to say that. That's, like, up there for me too. Van Luen sounds too much like a villain, the 80s villain.

It does, very much so. And Jenny's, which we covered last week, is definitely another one I put up. I'm sure. That's like southern, right? That's not like a, in the south, usually? I believe Jennings was founded in Ohio. Oh. Yeah, the deep sound.

What was that a reaction to, Amelia? My joke or to... I don't... It was a reaction to... I don't know where Van Lewin is. Oh, right. I don't know where Jenny's is originating. Oh, okay.

I said Forrest's favorite is Jennings. Yeah, we heard it. We also heard it last week. Wait, did I say it last week? Yeah. Oh, no. Time for another water cleanse, Mitch. Time for a more.

I don't think I'd need another water cleanse. Yeah. Okay. Forrest Gump loves Jenny. Horace Gump does, yeah. Oh, boy. We told you the show sucked before you guys got here. I warned you.

Saylor, you got the wildflower honey and lemon chest pie. This is one of the seasonal flavors. And then the salted, malted chocolate chip cookie dough, which you also got Mitch. And Tiana, you also got that flavor in addition to peanut butter, brittle, caramel fudge. Yeah. And then Mitch, you also had the chocolate gooey brownie, and I got the honey lavender and a double-fold vanilla. And then Mitch, you got a cup of the wild forage berry slab pie for people to take tastes of.

I got to say this. And I did a cone. You did a cone. I think y'all did cups. Yeah. I did a waffle comb. Big mistake. I was getting ice cream all over my beard.

You guys saw. It was embarrassing. The chocolate gooey brownie, there's no chunks of brownie in that? Oh, that's lame. It's a little bit lower. So I said that about the cookie dough, too. There wasn't enough chunks of cookie dough in the cookie dough ice cream. Unacceptable.

And then there wasn't. In just plain cookie dough or the chocolate malted more? I agree. Right? I agree. In this chocolate, the salted, malted cookie dough. There wasn't enough cookie dough chunks. And then there was no, there were no brownie chunks.

Zero. Wait, wait, wait. Side note, have you ever seen those TikToks of people like opening up the Ben and Jerry's at the bottom and there's extra cookie dough? Is that a real thing? Do you know what I'm talking about? Like in a pint? Like I wouldn't know it unless I rip the pine apart? Or it's just all at the bottom.

No, it's like underneath like extra cookie dough on the bottom. Absolutely no way. Do you think, is that fake? Am I being lied to? Like a hidden reservoir? I feel like you're being lied to because why would they have wasted product like that? I know. But also now I need to go buy a pint and rip it up.

No, I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you. Well, they have the core. Just like X-Files, I want to believe. I want this to be real. I know. I want, I would love this. But the internet is a lie, right?

Internet's always lying to you, unfortunately. Unfortunately, and I think that that sounds like maybe a trick, but... I got tricked. But maybe not. But that seems like a good idea. Like, you just have a little extra, and then it's like not, you know, you could just sprinkle it on top. Well, that's what I'm wondering because they have the core, which is like, you know, all that stuff

is in the center and then you're, it's up to you how you want to distribute it. I wonder if at some point, or maybe they do already have it on the market of varietal that's got all that stuff clustered at the bottom. And then maybe combine that with a little bit of stagecraft and, like, you're, Like, oh, hidden layer, there you go. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know.

I'm telling you, if Ben and Jerry did, if Ben and Jerry's did dough reserve or do, like, dough core reserve or something? Ben and Jerry sells their own cookie dough balls. Oh. Like, the, basically the same cookie dough that is in the cookie dough ice cream. Yeah, there's a little baggies of them. That's some good. Cookie dough, I think.

I feel like we never got closure on your Dippin' Dots' Enthusiasm. We heard your version, but you love them. They're, A, like, nostalgic, so nostalgic for me. It was, like, so much of my childhood. Hold on, sorry. We asked the video stopped recording. Something happened. Hey, buddy, we may have lost video for a second, but we are back.

You can see us again. Twisted monthel for you, some twisted stuff going on with the equipment lags. Sweet Tooth was pulling on some cables, Mitch. That's probably what happened. Stop it. Silly boy. He never would do. Hold on.

He never would do it. Okay, sorry. what are you talking about sorry Joe I'm not in the show I don't know maybe grim Grim Mike you don't even know any of these characters it would be

um it would be Calypso it would be vermin oh vermin probably it would be vermin I was gonna say it would be Mike Shaw's character because he just doesn't know what he's doing oh that's true yeah

he's just Axel right he's just walking on the he'd be probably chewing on the that's what I'm saying you know he'd be like is this their gas in here you know so you want to just take that again that's what i should have said what was axel chewing on the cord is that what's going on here imagine like someone walking into the room all the powers out and someone's like what happened like you know someone's going to be like axel was chewing on the cords idiot it's electricity it's not yeah so uh but we were talking

about your uh your your fandom of dip and dots it's nostalgic for you very nostalgic it's funny i was laughing at what you said i liked it It was nostalgic. Yes. It's purely, is it purely nostalgic or do you like the taste? No, I also love the taste. First of, I mean, I have some of them that it's like, you know, if I go up to a dip and dot stand and they're out of these flavors and I'll be like, yeah, I'm not going to. What flavors?

Oh, you like Oreo? I really like, no, I really like, well, I guess I do like Oreo. I really like Rainbow Ice. Rainbow Ice is my favorite. It's refreshing. It's nice. It's not like, like, creamy and heavy. The banana split is also a surprising love of.

of mine. It's really yummy. No? No. No. But you know what I've never been fond of? Like cotton candy flavored ice cream? Yeah, I don't love that either. Or like bubble gum.

Right, right. It tastes too chemical-y. Yeah, agree. And I know that I think they have that for a few dip and dos flavors that I've just never even touched, I think. Yeah. But, yeah, it's just like, and it's fun. Like, it, like, melts in your mouth.

They're just these tiny little thingies. Right. I like the concept. I do. But it's just the mems for me. How did it scar you? Barf. Barf.

Barf. Oh, right, right, right, right. Yeah. And again, that makes so much so. Guys, I feel like, do you, would you agree if I said that, like, most people's, like, most embarrassing stories have something to do with throwing up? Um, yeah, maybe that or, like, something coming out of you, like, chitting your pants. Yeah, I was going to say. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, shitting your pants also very high on the list. I mean, I've never had a- There's never been a situation where I was shitting my pants in front of everyone. I don't know. Like, maybe last one I was a baby, of course, what's happening. Sure. But I don't remember, you know, I don't remember,

I don't remember anything from babyhood of shitting my pants in front of people. There's no memory I have of that. So you can't be embarrassed. You don't remember it. I can't be, I do remember, I do remember as a child barfing and being very embarrassed by it. I think that is like,

more so I like I'm embarrassed by like things I say as an adult no that me too that's that's that's that's the stuff that keeps me up and I but I do it by my my my I guess most embarrassing puke as a kid was in seventh grade for whatever reason I just didn't like came out of nowhere and I couldn't make it to the bathroom so like I ran to the hallway from the classroom immediately just puked in the hallway like could just could not hold it and was just like puking my guts out like onto the floor oh one of those kids did anyone come and rescue you uh well a kid in the class my friend goes, yeah, Weiger. In seventh grade, you're, I'm going to say technically too old to run into the hallway and barful. I know, I should, I know, but I just, I could not control it. I kind of came out of nowhere. Yeah, sometimes you can. Yeah, you were sick.

I was, yeah. Did you feel, like, encouraged by your friend? Were you like, yeah, throw it. Check this up. Yeah, let me do some. We tried over here. Encore? Saylor, you have an embarrassing barf moment, it sounds like?

Oh, my gosh. I threw up in the top floor of the Barnes Noble at the Grove. Oh, no. There's still a stain there on the carpet. No! Wait, where is it? It's on the very top floor. It's a wild, wild story.

We'll have to go and pay it as short as I possibly can. Sadly, Joe Boy's fans will now go visit this barf stain. Oh, my God. Haunted. Horfstein. Corrifying. Corrifying. It's cool.

It was like I was I brought Weiger and Mitch's socks Oh my god I'm wearing one right now You clearly don't have socks on your feet I know Where's your socks go? Don't know but I made 1,400 bucks today

Especially How old were you when this happened? Was this you? I was like 18 or 19 Oh okay oh shit I went This is just only not that long ago No unfortunately not that long ago

but definitely like in in you were hungover no no I wasn't even hungover is that crazy here's I just like so I was going to this like event where an author speaks you know and they like closed off the thing whatever for a while and the author had invited me we had never met but we like you know we're talking online and I'm just like oh let's be friends and and so I brought a new friend of mine at that point to this to this thing and and and what When it's over, everyone's standing in line to meet with her. I'm so sorry I'm not making an interesting enough story. No, no, no, you are 100%.

It was really funny because you just both pulled up at the exact same time. I was looking at a note. There you go, there you go. Anyway, shorter story, even shorter because I'm taking way too long. I, it was really late at night and I waited like hours until I could finally speak with her. I get in line when it's almost empty. And every step that we take towards her, I'm feeling nauseous. I'm feeling horrible.

and I'm like this is like being really why am I feeling this way every step I take until I'm like right walking up to her and I'm just immediately I know I'm like oh I'm going to throw up and so I make a horrible first impression because I'm like I need to go to the bathroom with you so I'm like hi it's nice to meet you up sailor like yeah let's take a picture great job sorry totally got to go felt horrible I make it like seven steps away from them before I puke into my hands I'm like I can't handle it because I puke into my hands obviously couldn't hold it. it gets all over my white two-piece outfit, like summer outfit where I'm wearing like this short little skirt and this like tank top. And I run into the bathroom. I was I barely made it far away from them at all and ran into them after my friend ran into them as she was leaving the Barnes & Noble to try and find me some new pair of clothes and ran into them and was like oh do you guys have any like any sense any more like you know like a sweater or something because they were giving out merch earlier and they were like no why and she was like this is how she puts it she went oh sailor had an oopsie and they all look at her that sucks they all look at her and

they go oh that was her because they saw the fugue on the ground and here's what the thing like it wasn't chucked i hadn't eaten anything that day the reason i threw up was because i was on new antibiotics and i wasn't paying attention and it was i had to eat them with food yeah did not do I hadn't had a meal that day, and it was like 8 p.m. And it was just like yellow liquid everywhere. It was pretty acidic, yeah. But it was. That's why I left the stain.

It burned right into that. Yeah. Great stomach acid. Are you going to have to do like a trigger warning at the top of this episode? This is actually like maybe some of our least gross stuff we've ever talked about sadly. The podcast is disgusting. This is just normal. I shot a.

Taking human spines for giant burgers. It makes you feel better. I did shoot a turd into my hand once. which we talked about on the podcast. I did, yeah. I kind of want to hear the story. There wasn't too much to it besides that. I think...

Well, what was the per... Why was that happening in the first place? Yeah, why was your... Yeah. Just tell the story. I believe... Was I on a cleanse or something? Was that what I was...

Was I doing like a fruit cleanse or whatever? A cleanse where you shit into your hands instead of the toilet? And then like I passed gas, as you could say. And I was like, well, oh, and I put my hand behind there and I caught a turd. Yeah, I was getting into the shower. Yeah, I was getting into the shower. Do you have a gas? Put your hand there?

I was like, oh, I feel like something's coming out. To my surprise, there was a turd. And I was like, I've never delivered a turd to a toilet this way. So I brought it to the toilet and I put it in there. Oh, my God. So you were at home, though. I was at home, yes. That's even worse.

In my childhood bedroom. Were that close? I was very close. I was like 10 feet away from a toilet. I could have. That's amazing. You know what? This is disgusting.

I mean, it is disgusting. Oh, sorry. You're going to add to it. I'm going to add to it. I love it. please um there was a girl i used to work at berries okay this is sick this is so sick i love it someone used to shit in the shower at berries jesus christ wow like regularly like like and never like actually shit in the in the shower left it there for everyone to see yes and our poor maintenance staff

like you know what i mean like they go and they like and they're like you got to ban this girl from ever coming back the shower shitters yes oh my god they would like be like okay it's always around this time. I would never show my face. That's crazy. A shower shirt. Now, do you think that was like thing that like, yeah, that's what I wonder. Was it a thing that's like, this happens accidentally, but it happens more than once, obviously?

Yes, it happened more than once. That to me seems like they get off on shower. They like doing it. Always wear your. Multiple times is on purpose. Yeah, that's on purpose. Yeah, I know. After the second time I shit in my hand, I'm like, this is getting weird.

You can save some time, do this directly into the toilet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I could cut out the middleman here. There's a place for that, and it's not the shower. Or your hand. Did you see the interview of the guy? He's on a podcast, and he discovers on air that you actually, you don't have to catch your shit before putting it into the toilet.

He wraps his, did you see this interview? Wait, yes. He wraps his hand in toilet paper. And he hovers over his hand over the toilet bowl. Every time he shifts. Yeah. And then guides it. into the bowl and then the interviewer is like are you serious like you're joking right you're on another

podcast I think there's a conflict of interest here I think that you got to I do not turd into my hand and wrap it up like a mummy and have it flushed yeah you just raw dog it but you know I don't know there's something about that though because you know like someone showed him how to do that Because I'm saying his parents did him so dirty. Yeah. To continue it into your, like, adulthood. Can I say something that people make fun of me for? Actually, why am I doing this?

People make fun of you? Oh, you didn't notice that? Come on, give it to us, Mitch. Give it. I'm going to get made fun of here. I'm a stand-up wiper. You're a what? I never understood how that works.

You're a stand-up wiper? Don't you have a bidet? I do use a bidet now. I'm a stand-up in front of the twas. I'm a stand-up in front of the twas. I'm a stand-off. Do you, like, stand in front of the toilet to use your bidet? Like, you have a...

No, no, no, no, I do not do that. I use a bidet. What happens? I'd use the bidet, and then I stand up and I wipe and I put it in the toilet. You have a bidet? I have a bidet. I have a bodie of you. I also have a bidet.

I have two. I have two. I have two badee. I have three badeeys. That was a commoner reading down bedet. That was a bad five. We need to do it again. You got to look at the elbow.

You got a look at the elbow. Fuck. Fuck. That was pretty good. Okay. That was good. Man, Ellie is, my love the wife, is so good at high five. She's, like, fucking incredible at it.

And then she'd always be like, high five. And she's trying to get me to do a high five. And then she gets mad at me because I'm doing bad ones. But the look at the elbow advice is a big thing. Yeah. But I don't think it works if it's the same. Yeah, it's when you're crossing over. It has to be when you're cross.

Also, this is the thing. I was using my left hand. Yeah. Nice. Okay, that was pretty good. That was pretty good. That was better. That was better.

No, no, no. No. No. Great. my high five years so it's time to go the high fives made jemmy leave come here come on come on baby yeah it got too hot over there

all right we should get to our fork scores on salt and straw does natalie give you the kind of high fives that like send the tangle down your arm like it's so spot on that you like I got to tingle down my arm there yeah my old my old honestly with my even with the other hand my radial head was hurting I also broke my radial head a couple of years ago when I lived in Boston I actually fractured it didn't break all the way through with radial heads I think you do just fracture

yeah if you break them all the way you have to have surgery. So you probably fractured it too. But it is like one of the most uncomfortable bones to break. There's like no way to like cast it or fix it. You kind of just have to like live with it and move it every day. But I was in the middle. I mean,

I get a good high five. I like, how's it looking now? It's fine now. But I like if the weather is weird, I like feel it at my elbow. We were shooting. We were like just starting to shoot a sketch show, my sketch show.

So like, well, my sketch group sketch show. And my arm froze up like. Your sketch show. My sketch group sketch show. And then so my arm froze up like. this and you have to like try to get as much movement as you can. You have to move it or you'll lose your range of motion. Yeah, you use your motion. And I did lose some of the motion in there, but like it froze like

this and it hurt so much and that's when I knew it was broken. I went to the hospital. But it was so pathetic. The wardrobe, Brianna, uh, uh, she like had to like help me put shirts on every day. Like I was like just like, you hated that, huh? I just felt pathetic. I mean, she probably hate it. But now she just worked on, uh, the rehearsal. Hey, how cool is that? Brie rules. We love Brie. This is an ad by BetterHelp. Mitch, I've had issues when I'm looking for wellness or mental health content online. Sometimes it's overwhelming.

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Hmm. All right, we should get to our spoon score, Mitch, if you will. Yep. So give so, so here, uh, St. Lieutenant, here's how this will work. We'll each go around, give our closing arguments, if you will. Any other thoughts you want to share on salt and straw? And then end that by giving it a rating from zero to five spoons because it's ice cream. Sure.

Yeah. Or, I mean, do we do something for twisted, you know, twisted spoons? Fuck. Nails? How many ice cream trucks? We can rate it ice cream stuff? That's kind of fun. Mm.

Sure. You like that? Yeah. He's pissed. No, I like it. Oh, no, we got to do this. We're, here's the thing. We're recording out of sequence.

So this will have to be seated in the previous episode. That's right. Which we're recording afterwards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, we just have to track that. Or we could just do spoons and that's easier. But I like, I like ice cream trucks. I think it's a good pitch.

Thank you Sweet Tooth's ice cream truck is fun And maybe that's just the way it is Sure Yeah that's just the way it is Or maybe just fucking changes From episode to episode Who gives this shit?

Well for this episode It's ice cream trucks You know if that's the way to do it This episode gets a bespoke rating Of ice cream trucks Wow Sailor Toot Toot indeed

One of the one of the One of our favorite ice cream truck noise Toot toot Toot Toot Siler You're going to emphasize the teas

Jimmy has abandoned us Your thoughts, your fork score Or I'm sorry, ice cream truck score for salt and straw My thought is that it's hard to move on Without Jemmy by my side Even though I enjoyed my delectable sweet for you today Wow Honestly, that was kind of like the best

Random flavors of ice cream that I've tried in a really long time I've really enjoyed Because like I'm the same way I'd love to stick to what I know. So usually I'll just like get like a good, you know, like just plain cookie dough or like a chocolate. I'm like a, you know, a sucker for a good old plain scoop of chocolate. But it was, I loved that lemon pie one. And I don't even like pie.

So it was great. Wait, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, I don't like pie. There's a lot of really crazy things that I don't like, I don't like cake. I don't like frosting. I don't like sprinkles. I don't like pie. I don't like warm fruit.

Oh, okay. I've heard a lot of people say this before that. Like, I just, you know, I just can't do. What about a chocolate pie? It's not even texture. It's genuinely just like, I don't know, like when it gets warm. Oh, maybe it's too sweet. Because you said you're not a huge sweet person.

Yeah, not a huge sweet person. So maybe when it's cooked, it gets like too. Yeah, maybe, maybe. But I would give it a happy 4.3 spoons. Ice cream. Can I do that? Ice cream trucks. Yeah, you could.

Oh, wait, no, sorry, 4.3 ice cream trucks. I don't know if we've got to have anyone do a point three. No, we usually do quartiles. Four ice cream trucks and a wheel. And a wheel. I love it. 4.3. I love this score.

It's technically in the twisted golden plate club right now. That's a wheel and a machete. Tiana, that's perfect. Tiana, what are your final thoughts on salt and straw out of ice cream truck? And then give your ice cream truck rating at the end. Okay, my final thoughts are still slaps. I still think it's really good. I'm not trying those weird flavors

I'm not trying the like stupid savory flavors I'm sticking to what I know and what I know is what I like and what I like is Salt and Straw so I'm going to give it 4.5 Nice. Wow. Yeah Wow, good score. That's a good score.

Wow, 4.5 ice cream trucks. It's up there. Do we get to hear your guys We do ice cream trucks? No, actually, no. Yeah, of course we're going to tell you. Give it. Come on. What if Salton started a pickle ice cream? Would you guys be into this? Oh, my God, I'd be there so fast. Wow.

In my pickle uniform. I love pickles, but not in my ice cream. Yeah. I would try it, though. I'd try it. I'd definitely try it. I would just do the spoon tester. I would not.

Fair enough. I would not do as a good test. I wonder how well a doughboy sock flavor would do over there. I don't know. I mean, you guys have been pretty well. There'd be one person definitely in line. For sure. Only $1,400.

$1,400 per scoop. Oh, yeah, no, you can't sell it for less. Wow. Hmm. Okay. Salt and. straw. I've come around on salt and straw. And I do think that they are good at what they're trying to do. Wags, which is, I liked it. I was having fun. I was having fun over there. And I did get

something to go for all of us to try. That's in the freezer right now. If anyone wants more of the pie flavor, I think when they are hitting and they have a good unique flavor, they're doing great. It's not my go-to spot, but I think that I can't, I've now changed. I think the last time me review this. I maybe want three forks or spoons. I'm pretty sure it ended up in the Golden Plate Club. I think you did it go for. I will look it up right now. I mean, I think

that I got to go four ice cream trucks. I think that it's You're going up to four. Yeah, four ice cream trucks. That's pretty good. They were very kind to me with season one and they gave me that ice cream, which helped of course. But outside

of that, the unique flavors are interesting. I'm never going to want to get them. I'm never going to want to do it, but some of their like pie flavors, some of their, some of their experimental flavor flavors, if it's like, that looks good, they usually are really good. Yeah, like a cereal milk? Yeah, yeah, that's fun. Mitch, they were very kind

to you, you've grown in your appreciation for them, and so your score has declined from 4.5, which you gave them last time. You duck them a half spoon. It's just, look, I'm just thinking. What's it us? I mean, the only thing that's changed here is. Yeah, you guys have

been fucking riding me all day today. it's that we went with you just don't believe the ice cream you guys give me shit you steal jemmy from this couch yeah what what look no I love both of you I like salt and straw

I think now what I'm thinking in the broader context of ice cream places there's places that I will say four and a half or five to over salt and straw but I do I think salt and straw is very very good and when I look at that seasonal menu a lot of the time because we walk

We were not to docks the studio, but we walk by it every day, basically. And if there, anytime I see like an interesting one on there, I do want to go in and try it. They're always mixing it up. They're always changing up the flavors. There's always something that. Which is to their benefit. Their seasonal flavors are hit and miss. Some of them intentionally miss, as has been covered.

But some of them, when they hit, they really hit. And I did think that Wild Forgeberry slab pie was hit. That was a great. Absolutely. Great taste of ice cream. The flavors I got, as I mentioned, honey, lavender and double-fold vanilla. You know, I don't always love a floral flavor and ice cream, but this one, I think the sweetness of the honey, like, complemented it so nicely. I thought that was delectable. And look, I'm a guy who says vanilla is a flavor. I stand by that. Their double-fold vanilla is a very good execution of a classic. A couple of things we haven't mentioned. One, they make their waffle cones in house, which handles doesn't do. Van Luen doesn't do. Yeah. So, like, them just having fresh waffle cones is a big point in their favor, a big checkmark in the pros column. Sure enough.

Other thing you got to mention, great service. Yeah. Elliot and Noah, who worked over there, like, we're very, very, you know, like a super friendly. Let us take all the time. We needed to have as many tastes as we needed. We weren't holding up the queue. There was no one else in there. We tried a lot of ice.

We told a lot of things. We told her lady that came in that she go ahead of us and then she left, I don't know what the deal was. She said, yeah, but I want to try, like, everything. That is so funny. She started tasting stuff and then she left. I don't know what happened. Yeah. Maybe she was just there for a few samples.

and then she took off. Oh, maybe, yeah. It's good for her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. I'm going to land right at four ice cream trucks, which means salt and straw remains in the golden plate club, Mitch. All right, wow.

Oh, nice. Hey, there you go, Salt and Straw. Hey, it's time for a segment. I got a food stuff. We're going to decide if you should put it in your mouth at snack or a whack. And we figured since we were in Sweet Town, we'd move over to Savory Country with late night loaded taco Doritos. Wow.

Has anyone had these? I don't think I've had these yet. No, but I love Doritos. He's interested. Me too. I love Doritos. What's your favorite Doritos variety at all? You like Cool Ranch?

You like Nacho cheese? Yeah, cool ranch. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. It's actually cooler ranch, but that's fine. Is it canonically permanently cooler ranch? Do they go back to Cool Ranch? Yeah, I thought that was just a... I don't discriminate.

I like them all. Jimmy, get up here. Come here, Jamie. I do like most Doritos. Yeah, me too. I'm going to let our guests reach into the bag first. I definitely do like Doritos. I'm more in the Nacho Cheese town.

It does. It literally smells like a... a, like a taco in here. Like, it smells like there's a much tacos in here. A big thing there, everyone feel free to get the bag in the bottom, actually. That's what they do at Doritos now.

There's a taco at the bottom. Is it kind of like the walking taco thing where like you would take a bag of like Doritos and then put all the stuff in it? Oh, yeah, like it Universal. How they do it the Fritos. Love a Fritos pie. Did you not take one?

I'm going to, I would let her guess do it first. Yeah. Before I put my, my greasy paws in there. I took two You can take as many as you want to be clear It just smell really nice Right? It's got a taco seasoning smell

Sometimes they try to do like a lettuce flavor With some of these tacos No I was kind of waiting So one of my best friends like Licks all the stuff off of it first That's come on now Fascinating She does

I'm worried she's like She licks it off And then she eats that I mean okay Hmm Hmm I mean, Doritos are the best chip. Is there too much going on?

It makes me feel like I'm... There's too much going on. I'm actually eating like a taco shell when I just want to be eating a chip. Yeah, this is a... Yeah, there's too much going on. This is the perhaps could be the Uri example of Ungapachka. There's just too much happening with this. With these flavors, they have to do these compound.

flavors now where they're trying to present a simulacrum of some existing food stuff instead of just like what we like about nacho cheese and cool ranch is they taste like nacho cheese and cool ranch you know they're their own distinct sort of flavors and I kind of wish they were going for that instead of the gimmick of like we're trying to recreate something in chip form great crunch Doritos have great crunch but I don't know I'm I wouldn't I wouldn't crush a bag of these slight whack I think it's a slight whack we're going snack or whack yeah I think it's whack too yeah sorry Doritos Jayla, what do you think?

Yeah, I'm going to go with whack. Wow. Wax all around. Wax all around. I would have not eat it, though. I mean, if it was there. Wax all around, sounds like a weekend in my crib. Oh, no.

I've won guys back. This guy just jacks off? He strikes out all the time. He's jacking off around his house. Catching poop. Catching poop. Jacking off. Jacking off.

It's a busy weekend, you're going to catch some turds and get to jack off. Wait, by the way. I'm going to give these to the dais. Oh, I thought you were going to give them to Gemmy. I know Gemmy was really looking like a good girl. I've tried to giving her Doritos before and she thinks she wants them and then she does. I do not think she would like those ones. Now that I've had a few of them like, there's a little spice going on.

I'm like, do what? Maybe it's maybe a, no, I don't know. It's got like a charred smoky thing element, which is nice. But you can't pinpoint it. It tastes very sciencey. Yeah, you want to be able to go. oh, I taste this and I taste that, or there's none of that. It just kind of feels like too much.

There's a lot of tomato tastes going. Yeah, and like brown-beach produce. Yeah, that's exactly it. It's like a brown-beat flavor, which is an odd, yeah. Okay, well, then maybe there are flavors you can pinpoint. And I'm just like, what the fuck is a late-night taco anyways? Like a, like a street taco, I guess, but like, come on. You can get those during the day, too.

Or is it Taco Bell? Yeah. This is giving Taco Bell. It's, yeah. They're doing just after dark branding, I do not understand. I don't know what they're doing there. Anyway. I do like eating Doritos after dark, I will say.

Yeah, that's fun. It is fun to eat them at nighttime. You know what I think it is? I think it's like a coated stoner branding. I think that's what they're trying to. That's what it is, yeah. Okay, after dark, things get a little crazy. What do you think of salt and straw doing a collab with Dorinos?

I would love that. That's fun. I think that's fun. Would that be crazy? I mean, they have a, they have a flavor right now. with a potato chip mix-ins. Oh. Yeah, so, I mean, they'll, I guess-

A Grancher or nacho cheese, Dorito, and an ice cream. I think that could be fun. You do think, like, with every chip and ice cream combination you've ever thought of, it all has been potato chips. Right. And every kind of way. So I do wonder what it would be, like, like, ice cream, different flavored chips, you know? And Doritos are a different texture.

And I've never, I've never had a Dorito ice cream before. So who knows if it would work. But I would try it. I guess, that's for sure. Yeah. We get a little spoonful. Yeah. Also, by the way, four forks, four point five, I'm sorry, four spoon, four ice cream trucks, four

five ice cream trucks, four point three ice cream trucks, four ice cream trucks. Yes. What's the average math major? I'm not going to arithmetic in my head. That's one of the things. I thought you're fucking math major. Wait a second. Wait a second. You went to UCLA. And you were a math major. I'm sure I can figure it out, but I'm just, probably like one point two.

No, no, no, no. No, not one. Or, sorry, not one. Sorry, I meant 4.4.2 or something. Saylor, what were they teaching you at high school musical, the musical, the series called it? You were teaching us how to harmonize. Is that not what everyone learns in high school? Are you told them all up? Is it 16.8? Is that what they're all told us? So then it would be 4.2, right?

Yeah. Does that math work out? But I'm not, like, but I'm just basically what Saylor landed on. But I'm, that's not, I don't know. I relied on a calculator for, for arithmetic. I was just like, you know, I'd solve a differential equation or whatever. You find a mean, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Calculator. But I don't know, but ultimately that's like math didn't come. I wanted to do computer programming because I wanted to work in video games. Ultimately, that ended up not being my career path. But I think maybe my brain is not as oriented for, although I can do it, it was always harder for me than other people I knew who were just a little bit more innately adept at math. And I think I maybe have a little bit more of a, as much as I am a robot man, as much as I am in a domiton, I do have a little bit more of a, the creative side is a little bit easier. easier for me. It's easier for me to

direct. You went into video games because you wanted to marry Laura Croft. Is that correct? Man, Jesus. The dream. You got him. The ultimate babe. You got him. Not this high-res version. I want the PlayStation version. You want to marry pixely.

Lara Croft. Hey, just like a restaurant via feedback, let's up with the feedback. Today's email is for Malt. What the? Malt. Malt? Like Malt's ice cream? Ooh. That's not Matt with a typo. It's Malt. That's how he wrote it. This motherfucker's name is Malt? This guy's name is malt

I like it I think it's good Or also it is very possible That one of our listeners misspelled their own name So I think that that is very possible They were so excited They were so excited

That they just probably They knew it was like an ice cream theme Yeah I hope this is malt All right fuckos Let's settle this debate When it comes to slice bread Packaging which is better

A twist tie or the bread clip A.k.a bread tag Pick below Wow a twisted question Wags Yeah A bit of a twisted query You are correct

Okay yeah I think I do a twist tie as well. I mean, I like the bread clip. Sometimes they break. It is a little bit more plastic waste, although a marginal amount, less so than the bag itself, obviously. But I just like, I just like doing the twist tie. I think it's fun. I also, yeah, I just think it's like, it makes something feel more completed.

Like when I. I disagree with you guys. And I take it out. I disagree too. And you just, you swish it and then you put it on there. Yeah. And then you tuck it underneath and you set it down and it's done. We had a Nick Natalie situation over here.

Again, are aligned. We are lined We like the tooth We like a sweet tooth And I've found my way around it I've really found my way around those tooth It's like you gotta twist the bag And then you like loop it around

Do you do that? Oh I don't do that You can like loop it around the clip It's nice And then it's really sealed in there And it's not gonna get stale too quick There's sweet tooth I like the bread tooth

You just twirl it It should be called a bread tooth It should be called a bread tooth It should be called a bread tooth I got a massive bread tooth As well Bread is like, if you broke it down, I think bread is like one of my favorite things just to eat. I mean, like pizza is my favorite food, which is, you know, in a little way.

I'm very much like Oprah. You're Oprah. Me too. I'm Oprah. In fact, check under your seats, you guys. You get a sock. You get a sock. You get a sock.

I got Rye. What a switch. Emma Amelia, first off, snack or whack on the chips. And secondly, where do you stand in this bread tie debate? I think this is a light whack, but I keep going back for more. So I don't know what that is. That's the burritos. Yeah, it might be that.

I'm going to say a slight snack. Slight snack, okay. I've been eating them this whole time. Wow. And I think I can't decide on the bread thing. I guess a twist tie feels like it actually closes the bag. Like the bread tie, like you just like sip it in there, but it doesn't feel like the bag's closed all the way.

So like the twist tie, you can tighten it up and it feels like it seals all. the arrow. Interesting. Okay, that seems like user error if you ask you, but... Wait, wait, wait, we're talking about tie versus clip. Right, yeah. It's that, that's the clip. That's the clip. Yeah, that's, yeah. And I would use a clip, yes, yes. Wait, you would use a clip.

Oh, yeah, wait. Wow, okay. So I'm on an island here. A clip is what I meant. Because you do, you do the... Yeah, exactly. You look at that, and then you clip it on and then it's fair. So what you do, what you do? No, it's okay. But if you spin the bag and then clip that on,

it like unspins when you let go of it. No, no, no, no, there's a way. So you got to spin the bag, you put the clip on. And then you can either spin a little bit more or you take the top and you loop it around. So it goes, there's like an extra. So maybe I just haven't been using the clips the right way. I think the tooth is I now,

now it's branded. The bread tooth, it can break like you're saying. I mean, not that often though. But also the twist ties you can lose too. They're just as easy to lose. Also, there is a third. option, the chaotic option where you don't use anything that came with the bread

and you just spin it and tuck it under and put it down that way and just leave it. It's a chaotic option, but I feel like that's what happens a lot of the time. When the bread clip breaks, what else do you do? Well, you tie in and a knot. Yeah, tying in a knot is a good option, too. That's why not, yeah.

Bread clips that they keep breaking them. I've never broken a bread clip before, ever. I'm breaking them some bitches all the time. Amelia, did you render a verdict? A tooth. You go a tooth. Wow, okay. Hell yeah, Amelia. Malt also writes,

let Amelia host an episode. Oh. We're not going to be doing that. No, we're not going to be doing that. Sorry. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you email us at Feedbag atbirdfuck.com.

We'll leave us a voicemail at 830. Go to that's 8304-6-8-44. Our producers, Amelia Marino, our video producers, Casey Donahue, and our video editor is Mike Dorfman. And get our merch at kinshipgoods.com slash doughboys and get the Doe Boys bonus episode, plus our entire pre-2018

back catalog at patreon. At patreon.com slash doughboys. I sure warned you guys that this would be very long, too, by the way. But we're done. Yeah, I've been wondering. I'm looking at my watch this whole time. It's a marathon needlessly. Sailor Belcurdiae, Tiana Coyer, thank you so much.

Season two of Twisted Metal, congratulations. It's streaming now on Peacock. People should check it out. Tell us anything you like about the show. And if you want to plug anything else, go for it. The show will have been out for two weeks now. Oh, cool. Has the show come out to the point where they've seen our first meeting?

Because that's one of my favorite memories. Yeah. In real life and in the show. Which, that is true? Wait, which episode is that? When I just, when we run into each other at the mall and your bear underwear. That came out today. Wow.

That came out today. That came out today. That came out today. I'm in my underwear the entire episode. Why? It was the first time we met each other with a coach there. Oh. I'm all like, are we comfortable with it?

And I was like, this is really fun. Yes. With, with, what's it called? Intimacy coordinator. Yeah, I forgot that. It was great. So funny. I also made a very inappropriate joke in front of the intimacy corridor.

Oh, I remember. And I didn't realize that she was there. And then she laughed hugely. Like, she was just going crazy on the joke. I was like, she fucking ruled. It is the moment I fell in love. Yeah, I was. I was funny.

Yeah, what did you say? I was, I, I, I can't. I can't use a spoiler, but there's a moment where I'm near someone's butt. And then I made a joke that, like, you're going to see, like, that I'm a wrecked on screen. And then the intimacy coordinator heard me saying that. She started laughing. And I was like, oh, shit. Like, I was so nervous.

I mean, it might have happened multiple times. I probably made multiple jokes in front of her. No, was the coordinator, her name was Mimi? Was that it? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think she was laughing because she was like, we're not going to see it? One last dunk on me to end the episode. All right.

I really, I really, you know, I haven't seen Twisted Metal Season 2 yet. I'm very, very excited to see both of you in it. I am a fan of the show, and congratulations. I think it's really amazing. Thanks for what for being here. They got some great characters. They're great, both great actors, very talented in many different ways. But both of your characters are really cool, too, on top of you guys got some cool characters.

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