Doughboys - Shakey's Pizza with Kyle Mooney

Episode Date: September 14, 2017

The ‘boys welcome Kyle Mooney (Brigsby Bear, SNL) to talk tacos vs. burritos, eating while on SNL, and the virtue of barcades, before getting into their recent trip to Shakey’s Pizza. How will thi...s pizza, salad, and entertainment chain fare? Plus, another segment of Dinner and a Movie, and Mitch receives a mystery package...Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Whanes World, Whanes World, Party Time, Excellent! These words opened Whanes World, a recurring sketch that began on Saturday Night Live in the 88-89 season, though Mike Myers character Wayne Campbell originated in a sketch called Whanes Power Minute on a CBC show a few years prior. Whanes World was an immediate pop culture sensation and landing amidst the heyday of SNL to feature film adaptations, it went to the big screen in 1992 with a box office hit of the same title. The movie version featured a famous fourth-wall breaking scene in which Wayne and Dana Carvey's
Starting point is 00:00:32 character Garth proclaimed their refusal to sell out to Rob Lowe's antagonist character Benjamin while simultaneously displaying on-camera product placement for Pizza Hut, Doritos, Reebok, Newprin, and Pepsi. But the first brand mentioned in the film actually comes in its first scene, and it happens to be the first pizza franchise in America. In 1954 Sherwood Johnson and Ed Plummer opened a beer hall in Pizza Parlor in California State Capital of Sacramento, far from the family-friendly budget-chucky cheeses it is today.
Starting point is 00:00:58 The original location was a rollicking scene with flowing booze and live jazz music, courtesy of Johnson himself and the many acts he booked. The pizzeria's jazz shows and sponsorship of a branded jazz radio program would later lead to Johnson being honored in the American Banjo Museum. An immediate local hit, a second store opened in 1956 and the franchise saw rapid expansion across the U.S. and the Pacific Rim in the 60s and 70s. But as the large footprint Pizza Parlor concept gave way to competing delivery-focused change with kiosk-sized storefronts, the company receded from its peak of 300 locations, though
Starting point is 00:01:27 it still has over 50 stores today. But what of the restaurant's distinct brand, which is vocalized by Rob Lowe in the second line of dialogue in the Wayne's World movie? Sherwood Johnson had suffered nerve damage from contracting malaria during World War II, and was given a perhaps derogatory nickname as a result, which became the name of his original American Pizza franchise. This week on Doughboys, Shakies. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants for reproduction of Feral Audio
Starting point is 00:02:06 dot com. I'm Nick Weiger. Alongside my co-host, Eat Holmes, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. So Pete Holmes, but I eat. Yeah. That's why I ate Pete Holmes. I think you ate Pete Holmes is what I infer from that. Justin Zabo said in that roast, if you've got an insult you'd like me to use on Mitch
Starting point is 00:02:21 at the top of the show, roastspoonman at gmail.com. If I ate Holmes, Apatow would be pissed. Oh man, you'd get fired from love. I know. I'd be screwed. Or maybe you would just take over crashing. Hey, not bad. Season two of crashing.
Starting point is 00:02:36 It's a new lead because our current lead ate the previous lead. Do you think they would have to tell that story within the show that I ate Pete Holmes? I think they could do it in like a montage, like just sort of wrap it up. So within that montage, you see me swallow Pete Holmes whole. Right. I mean, I wouldn't assume you'd eat him whole if that's what you did. I mean, that's pretty impressive. Oh God.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I assume something a little bit more just generally cannibalistic. Well, you just cooked and ate him in a big pot. Jesus Christ. This is embarrassing for me to do because of our guests. I always have a problem when I have to do this in front of people, I guess just in front of any people. Yes. You think I should stop doing it?
Starting point is 00:03:18 You get particularly... No, I think you do the drops. People expect the drops. All right. You get self-conscious about it. I'm like fishing and here's a drop and it took me a little while to I like I like white fish, but it took me a while to like all types of fish. I just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I like fish in their crunchy grooves, but you never will listen to a fish song at all. Fish head over there. Hey, that was nice. A nice fish drop. You know that the backing track of that one was I believe Alf Clausen's closing credits music from the Lollapalooza episode. Oh, yeah. The Lollapalooza where Homer becomes a freak who takes a cannonball to the gut.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yes. Great episode. Great episode. Great episode. Alf Clausen recently departed from the show. Brent Forrester, I believe, wrote that whose rights on love. Oh, good for him. And then Alf Clausen, I know it will work out.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I'm not going to talk about Simpsons gossip on the fucking show. I mean, you did used to work there. Yeah. Yes. That's the issue. That drop was from Dan Padley and he sent it to the wrong place before. His Twitter is Padley at Padley Dan. Thanks, Dan.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Nick, it's September, officially, officially September. Right. Are you excited for September? Hmm. I don't know. I mean, a little bit more excited than the lead singer of Green Day. I can tell you that much. Make you up.
Starting point is 00:04:49 When September. Yeah. I mean, I'll be conscious through September. Unlike, unlike Billy Joe Tolliver, who wants to go to sleep and will be woken up. His last name is Tolliver. Is that what it is? I don't know. I thought it was Armstrong.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Oh, it is Billy. Who is Billy Joe Tolliver? That's a guy. That's a different guy. Sounds like a Dickens character. Wait, hold on. I'm going to look up Billy Joe Tolliver real quick because I'm confident that's a real man's name.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I'm sure it is. I don't doubt you are this. Nick, are you, are you, I like the fall. This is the start of like a, hey, there's new shows coming out. The deuce. Have you watched the deuce yet? I haven't watched the deuce yet, but you've been, you've been raving about the deuce. I got to watch the deuce.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I liked, I, I, and hold on a second. I wasn't raving about the deuce. You were saying the deuce is worth watching. The deuce. Yeah. The deuce. I like the deuce is wild. You gave an enthusiastic endorsement of the deuce.
Starting point is 00:05:33 You texted me the deuce is wild with no context in the middle of the night. I tried to glean what you meant. Are you excited for any new shows? There's the football season starts up. There's sport like basketball is coming back at the fall is a great, my favorite time of year. Excited for the NBA. Excited for this heat wave to be over.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I, aren't you very excited for a young Sheldon? Okay. All right. I, is this true? I heard that you called up CBS and you complained that Sheldon wasn't young enough. All right. And you are, you are, you're now currently, are you now currently pitching younger Sheldon and pitching like a, like a preteen Sheldon and even younger Sheldon Sheldon.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I mean, they might as well make it. Don't you think it would be confusing if there was a young Sheldon and younger Sheldon and youngest Sheldon goes on at the same time? Well, look, I mean, young Sheldon, if it's a hit, what's the next spin off? I mean, you could do young Galecki, but I don't know if that's going to have the same cachet as young Sheldon. Also young Galecki is strange because his name isn't Galecki in the show. What's his name in the show?
Starting point is 00:06:35 I don't know. I have no idea. Well, the show should be called young people know who Sheldon is about the, the life of the like young Galecki. So that would be like young Johnny Galecki will be like on the set of like Christmas vacation. I mean, I'd watch that show. I guess I would do a real quick Billy Joel Toliver, former quarterback for the NFL played
Starting point is 00:06:55 for the Chiefs, the Falcons and the Saints. So he was I think he was kind of a career backup in the 80s and 90s. So you used to do you did like the NFL at one point. Yeah, I followed it for a little bit. Is it? Yeah. His last season was for the Packers in 2001, but he plays so like 89 to 2001. Hey, an esteemed career.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Oh, Toliver. 10,000 yards. Yeah. Yeah. The last name Toliver rings a bell. Right. More so than Billy Joel. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Is it Billy Joe Toliver or Billy Joel? I think it's Billy Joel. No, it's Billy Joe. Billy Joe. Okay. All right. Real quick, we're doing live shows in Portland, Seattle and Vancouver, October 12th through 14th.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And for info and tickets, go to ferrellaudio.com slash dough boys. But right now let's introduce our guests from Saturday Night Live in the film Briggs B. Bear, which is now in theaters. Kyle Mooney. Hi, Kyle. Hey guys. How are you? Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Thank you for being here. We're excited to have you. Oh, stop. It's long over. It was very long overdue. It's very long overdue. Right. We can all agree it was long overdue.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's been two years we've done this podcast. It hasn't been very good. No. So we should have had you beforehand. That's your... You guys just use consistently or constantly sell yourself short. Has anyone confronted you on that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:00 People have said... People have called us out. Is someone knocking at your door, Mitch? Someone is knocking at my door. All right. You songs on the case. You songs are gonna be murdered. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I hope you didn't... I hope you didn't... I hope you didn't... I hope you didn't... You songs on the case. You songs are gonna be murdered. You songs are gonna be murdered. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I hope you didn't... It doesn't get taken out by a prowler. That'd be an ignoble end. You song. What is it? You song. Who is at the door? It's a package.
Starting point is 00:08:24 You song. What did you get? You song. Bring it here, please. This is exciting stuff. Mitch has gotten his... His mail delivered live on the show. We were just outside of Mitch's house and his neighbor was saying, if any mail comes
Starting point is 00:08:35 from me that's addressed to me, let me know. He's looking for a piece of mail that apparently has a check in it. Oh, wow. Yes, that is true. I don't think it's any of these pieces of mail, Mitch. Just looking through them real quick. No. No.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I got a department of motor vehicles. Well... Looks like you had a paycheck there. Hell yeah. Oh, I got something from the state controller. Oh boy. And Wally and Irma are due for some medicine. What do they need to have done?
Starting point is 00:08:58 It didn't say anything. It doesn't say. But... Oh, a dewormer. Mitch, I think we had a real missed opportunity there for a new spin-off character. We should have invited that mail lady in here. Added it to the podcast. I don't know if she would have liked that at all.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You don't think so? I don't think so. There's something liquid in this. I don't know what it is. Who sent it to you? Have any idea? You've got like a... You have a priority mail package.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I actually don't know who this is. Hmm. And I'm not going to open it because who knows what it is. All right. Well, it'll blow up halfway through the podcast. Good. And that'll be the end of it. I love Africa, but good for us.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Hopefully just take out the two of us. I want to know more about the mail stuff. Is this your usual mail delivery time? Mine comes pretty late in the day. I'll say you get a knock. That's very... Nice? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I guess because of that package, but usually they'll just leave it right in between the door. Yeah, because you got a mail slot. Do you want me to tell you what Betty Yee sent me from the state controller? It means nothing to me. I'm kind of interested now. I'm invested in the state controller mail. The state controller is telling me, ooh, this letter is a knowledge of receipt of your
Starting point is 00:10:01 claim package. I sent in a claim because my tax guy looked up online that I wasn't getting checks. So in the biz, in show biz, you get residual checks. Sometimes they get sent to the wrong place if you moved addresses or something like that. And you'll just never get that money sometimes. And then we'll go... This is good news. This is good news.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's just saying that your claim for those checks that I guess were not sent or maybe have not... Yeah, have not been sent. It was accepted. Here's the bad news. It was for $60. Bad news because it should be more. I mean, it's just not a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And it wasn't... Well, it's still not bad. Yeah. It's a video game. I got a video game. There you go. I could buy Mario plus Rabbids if I hadn't already bought it. Well, good on Betty Yee for...
Starting point is 00:10:57 Bad news would be you owe somebody money. That's true. It's not... It's at least above neutral. I was afraid I was getting audited or something, which is fine. I'm not. See, that was pretty... This is a pretty exciting segment.
Starting point is 00:11:09 We had the introduction of the mail. We didn't know what was in the mail. You open it up and you got some closure on something that you'd been thinking about for some time. I haven't been sleeping. I haven't... That's all I've been thinking about. You've been stirring awake at night, thinking about that $60 you've been owed.
Starting point is 00:11:24 From what? Like a guest spot on Parks and Rec four years ago? Probably. It was probably something shitty I did that you hooked me up with, I'm sure. Mitch, we got a branded spot for Right Guard. All you got to do is take your shirt off and flap your tits together. Your face won't be in the frame. We're just going to film your tits.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And you're going to get $60... The current year is 2009, so you're going to get $60 in eight years. That sounds about right. That sounds like every job I did for you. Scott Geirner was saying the other day that he... Like, you remember the day... Like, you did like a few funnier die videos and stuff too, right, Kyle? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah, I don't know how many of the like branded where I was like hired and given a check, but I'm sure I did. Yeah, there were a lot of non-checks given. I did until like the first one I ever did that was like a check was like for like it was like a Nissan branded thing. And it was like like blubber burners and they were like in the room and they were like, who's like who won't get offended of like this fat guy joke? And then like Ferguson and all them were like, Mitch, like immediately.
Starting point is 00:12:32 A friend Dave Ferguson has been on the shows in the birthday boys. Yeah, thought of you. They all immediately thought of me as like a guy who was like a guy who was like I can't sit up or whatever, which is crazy because you're I mean, you're a big guy, but you're not like the biggest guy. And then also I'm definitely not the biggest guy. They're bigger guys, but also I'd say I mean, I'd say you're not. You're someone who's maybe thin skinned might be taking it too far,
Starting point is 00:12:57 but you're a medium skinned man. Like you do get you do get your thin skinned. What the fuck? See, you're thinking about that. You're thin like they're they're things you take personally. So I'm surprised that if you wrote a thing that was like he's a fat guy, you know, I wouldn't be fine for it. Yeah. Well, anyways, that was a nice detail.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Well, is there a video I could watch to see what you said? Right guard. It was for Denise. It was a juke. I don't know why I guess I said right guard earlier. Because I think right guard is good, but I mean, like for like a big smelly guy. Like that's also helpful. But it was a Nissan juke thing and I actually like use the car to like get. Now people are actually going to watch this shit video. This is branded shit.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I do want to see it. Yeah, that's Geardner. Geardner is a great director. He directed this thing. But but like where I'm like using the car to like do sit ups. Right. I mean, this is this is all on you, Wager. You're you're you're like you're king of the branded world. You think I'm king of the branded world?
Starting point is 00:13:54 I don't know about that. I've definitely done some branded work. I'm not particularly proud of. But I feel like the this is this is long game for Nissan Juke is working out because now you're on this podcast years later and you're recalling it and you're getting Nissan Juke on the brain for all our listeners. Do you think in the Nissan offices, they're going to be thrilled about these hits that they're getting?
Starting point is 00:14:12 They're high fiving right now, knowing that all the Spoon Nation is going to be driving around in brand new twenty eighteen Nissan Juke's. Only buy it from the year that I'm in the video, if you can. What year is that? Probably like what, two thousand and like ten or something. Wow. A long time ago. Right. Hey, you've been working steadily a while. That's good.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah. Yeah, thanks. Hey, Kyle, we're so happy to have you here again. Yeah, it's good to be here. So we've been wasting a lot of your time up top. But no, no, no, no, it's no, it's fine. I haven't truly enjoyed all of it. So I'm. Right. That was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Oh, the male bit. So, Kyle, I'm curious because you're you're from Southern California. Correct. Yeah, I'm from San Diego. So as a San Diego who's now in NYC, I mean, like, I feel like San Diego is is known for when I've been down there. My brother lives down there. Really good Mexican food. I know that's that applies to all of SoCal in particular,
Starting point is 00:15:11 but I feel like San Diego in particular is pretty damn good. That's I think that's accurate. I think that's something we pride ourselves in. And I feel like pretty confident that if you were to go to any taco shop in San Diego, you're you're probably going to get a good burrito right or your tone. Philip Bertos or what's what's your bar to all burritos. Rigo burritos.
Starting point is 00:15:32 My spots were JV's chili peppers in high school into a place called sombrero or sombrero. Oh, there's a blink one eighty two place. Yeah, exactly. They're from Poway. Yeah, yeah. But the big thing that there's a specific burrito in San Diego that exists now other places as well. But its origin is there as the California burrito.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. California burrito is my favorite burrito. My my my buddy, my buddy got very cute all of a sudden. California is my favorite. You're blushing my buddy Joe Aranda, who I showed you something early. Oh, yeah, that's right. He saw your movie. He loved it.
Starting point is 00:16:10 He showed me he showed me my first California burrito. I went to Juanita's in Encinitas. Oh, great. And it's my favorite California burrito on Earth. Yeah. And I don't know if your listeners are aware of what it is. Please describe it. It is a burrito filled with carne asada, pico de gallo. Often and obviously sometimes these ingredients change. But I'm doing the most standard sour cream, guacamole,
Starting point is 00:16:41 cheese and then French fries. Oh, yeah. The thing that make it somewhat specific. I've seen non guacamole. I've seen some with no guacamole. And I always add guac. Yeah. Yeah, I like, I like, I like putting guac in there. And I, and I see some with no salsa at all. There's some with no sour cream.
Starting point is 00:16:57 No sour cream. Yeah. But the meat and fries. Yeah, those are the two big ones. Yeah. Yeah, are certainly pretty crucial. I feel you add you add guac always. That's your that's your yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I feel like I need it. Yeah, I'm curious about the etymology of the name California burrito because I think when people when things are labeled California, I think it made this point in a previous episode. But when things are labeled California, outside of California, people usually assume like avocado and sprouts and jack cheese. They assume something that's kind of like kind of fresh or something that's maybe a little bit healthier than the normal option.
Starting point is 00:17:29 But the California burritos decidedly like a heavier, less healthy burrito just with additional start. I mean, it's good as hell. But I wonder if that if it almost comes from like a south of the border perception of Californians or Americans is kind of like, oh, they this, this, you know, this is something that we're going to make a burrito with excess. We're going to make a burrito like load it up with extra I mean, like I certainly agree with you.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I avocado specifically sticks out to me as like any California thing like that's on a right on a menu. I feel like it means it adds avocado or something like that. Is it possible that the normal menu at one of these taco shops would be like a burrito would be a carne asada burrito carnitas, El pastor, pollo asada that all of those are things that could that do exist in Mexico or like what, you know, like those are just types of meat that California is it's specific that it was originated here in the state of California.
Starting point is 00:18:27 I don't know. That's I think you cracked the case. I'm going to say that's the answer. Yeah, I actually I think that's the best answer I've heard. I don't I don't know, honestly, because it is funny to me that because it's like the French fry component of it is what is so specifically why it's like it's a California burritos got fries in it. Right. And and also like maybe is that like is that something that they also have to do or I don't think I think it I think it began in San Diego.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That's my understanding. Yeah. And Mexico, there are again, there are variations that I'm sorry to keep talking about. I have had it with potato like fried potatoes. Oh, yeah. French fries. But yeah, that's I don't know how much you guys have talked about burritos on this show, but there's not enough thing about, you know, in northern California, they've got the like rice and beans in their burritos in San Diego. We don't do that.
Starting point is 00:19:18 We it's it's like a carne asada, for instance, is just the steak. Guacamole, fresco. That's it. Pretty much right. You've got you've got the more the mission style burrito that you'll get up north that is kind of like the meal in a tortilla. Basically, what Chipotle is based on. Yeah, 100 percent. And then, yeah, this is this is a little bit more of a
Starting point is 00:19:39 a protein, I guess, focused burrito. But yeah, I think I like that style. I think I like the the more I don't know if it's the I've heard it called a Baja burrito, but something that's a little bit more stripped down. Yeah, I mean, a little bit too much shit. Anyone from San Diego would agree with you. Right. I think I agree too. I I'm OK with rice and bean.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I like I like it's got to be like it doesn't like if it's too packed with rice and beans, it's too much for the issue. Yeah, it takes away from that flavorful meat. Yeah. Are you a big seafood guy being down there? Or how do you feel? I don't I wouldn't. I don't know that I'd say big, but I like I love fish tacos. Oh, hell, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:19 How do you how do you feel about L.A. versus San Diego? Do you I this is I mean, you guys could tell me you're are you you're from? I'm from the Long Beach area, Lakewood, California is my hometown. I moved to L.A. in 2007 to go to I'm sorry, 2003, actually, to college out here. And I was very excited about the Mexican food here. And since then, the main things I've noticed and I could be incorrect. I feel like San Diego is more of a burrito culture. L.A. I feel like is a taco and taco truck culture.
Starting point is 00:20:53 It's definitely a taco down. Yeah. And though I will say the one thing I like about L.A. that I don't know that I when I when I eat Mexican here, I often go to a sit down restaurant. I go to like El Cholo or El Compadre or something like that where I get. And then I get like a combination plate with a churriano or enchilada or something like that. And I don't do that in San and San Diego, for me, it's all about taco shops.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's all about. Yeah. Yeah. Here, here, there's there's there's the spot. When I say taco, I'm sorry, I just said that L.A. is more taco oriented. When I say taco shop, I mean, just like a dingy spot where they serve burrito. Yeah, which are kind of which are like specific to San Diego. Yeah, yeah. I I am more I'm more of a I am more of a burrito guy than a taco guy. I think you are more of a taco. I'm more of a taco man. I think you're wrong. First of all, I think that's I think you're
Starting point is 00:21:42 incorrect with your opinion. I mean, like I think this is a fair. I'm not going to fight to the nail about this because I think I enjoy both. And so I'm not going to go out, you know, going to say, fuck you, tacos are better. I prefer tacos. I think there's room for both corn tortillas and flour tortillas. And you want a big tortilla to wrap up a bunch of stuff or you want to few small tortillas to wrap up a small amount of stuff. Either way, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I will say like my hierarchy of food. It's like pizzas at the top. And then I would probably go. But this is even a close battle now since I moved out to L.A. I guess still like a cheeseburger would be second. But then burrito is like right there and they might even swap places. Burrito. Wow. You put burrito over cheeseburger.
Starting point is 00:22:27 It's close. That's crazy. I love burritos. I love burritos. But that I'm just I'm just surprised to hear that from you. Yeah, no, it's it's way. I'm saying they're I'm saying I was saying I see. I take pride in that. Do you take any pride in that? And that he like are you a fan of Mexican? Do you like? Yeah, oh my God, I love it.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I think Mexican food is my favorite type of food from Massachusetts. Yeah, I like my experience. Like I didn't have a burrito till I was probably 14 or 15. Or like, I don't think I ate burrito. Like I had chicken tacos now I live in New York. And right that good Mexican food is so difficult to come by. It's a totally different scene. Is it really? Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Oh, that's a bummer. But I definitely yes. Now that you mentioned it, Kyle, I do take civic pride in the fact that we won over Mitch, a West Coast skeptic. He's come out here and now he's talking about burritos, potentially displacing cheeseburgers and his hierarchy of food. It's it's it's I mean, it's I'd say like cheeseburgers are still right there. Yeah, it's very close.
Starting point is 00:23:24 But they're there. That's how much I like breeding. That is even a battle between bronze and silver for the two of them is really something. Well, what do you have something? Do you have like a hot dog or something? What's your like? I'm going to go hot.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Why do you have a hot dog? I don't know. But what what is your what's your like? What I put on pizza is number one for you. No, pizza is not number one for me. Number one is tough. I might say, oh, boy, this is really I've I've been on a kick lately. And this kind of fried chicken.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah, that's what I'm going to say. This partly ties in with what we ate today. But I might be a guy who's saying fried chicken is a one or a one A these days. I really like a good good fried chicken. But it's evolving. It's evolving. It's it's forever evolving. How about you, Kyle? What would you say are kind of your favorites?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Oh, man, I think. Well, OK, let's hang on. Slow down. Because when we say because I think sometimes in terms of like cuisine, yes, like, say, Mexican or Italian versus like now we're saying specific dishes, we're saying. Yeah, I think I think that's that's the pattern Mitch set up. Or we're looking for dishes.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, I mean, like, fuck, I think burrito is number one. I do love Italian food. So then it would be like, I guess, like maybe I maybe like pasta would be. That's good. That's a good choice. Number two. And then I guess I'd go burger. Yeah, I mean, like, I love like both soups and sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I know those are somewhat generic descriptions. But those are good ones, though. But yeah, I think that's I think that's what I'm what I'm going to stick with. If a guy is like my favorite dish is soup, you're not like this is a maniac. You're like, oh, that's a reasonable thing. Like, OK, it's OK to like soup that much. But if your favorite dish is soup, that's kind of strange. It's also so broad because it's like it's like
Starting point is 00:25:17 even I guess it's like as broad as saying sandwich, because it can be so many different. Are we encompassing far or we encompassing ramen and clam chowder? That's a big umbrella. No, I think clam chowder. Definitely clam chowder. Yes. So you're saying that Asian soups are different. They are out. I mean, like, I know I could go. I don't want to I don't want to get involved, guys.
Starting point is 00:25:37 It's kind of a Western centric kind of Western. I guess I think of soup. I do think of, yeah, just like chicken noodles or cream of mushroom, your tomato bisque, lobster bisque. Your classic American all the bisques. Every every Campbell, the Campbell's lineup, the Campbell's line, but not necessarily made by Campbell's. Yeah, sometimes you want a fresh soup.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with Campbell's as well. Hey, I'm fine with Campbell's. So me saying soup number one is that's weird to me. It's kind of weird, but he didn't say soup number one anyway. No, but I'm just saying, like, here's what I here's the point I'm making. I think it's like I think this is a thing we can talk about without. I don't think people have to come to blows over this because of someone's like, I like sushi.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I would not put sushi is my number one food. But if someone's like sushi is my my favorite, I'd be like, that's a reasonable thing to believe pizza doesn't make either your top three. I don't think it makes my top three, although I love pizza. That it would have when I was talking about today. But yeah, right. I am full pasta. I eat a lot of Italian food. Yeah, I love pizza.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I certainly I love pizza, but Italian is probably still my number one favorite. A bolognese or something like that. Oh, hell yeah. Italian is still my number one favorite type of food. I'd say if we're talking if we're talking categories of food, I'd say Mexican number one. Yeah, that's up there, too. And then I might say I might say Indian number two. What's good? And I've never seen you eat an Indian meal ever in my life.
Starting point is 00:27:01 I have Indian food once a week. Do you really? And what are your dishes? I'm a big I'm a big vegetarian Indian guy. So like I really like like a China masala. I really like like a like a sag paneer. It's my favorite. Yeah, or a Palaq paneer. I I mean, like I'm all over the map in terms of things. But yeah, I like I like the bean dishes like the green dishes
Starting point is 00:27:26 and I like the the the cheese dishes. No Tika Tika masala. I'm into it. I'm into a Tika masala chicken Tika masala. But I mean, like it just depends on where I'm getting. You fucking idiot. But here here would be actually filling out my top three. And this might actually be number two. I would say Indian. I would say classic like American food.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Like I just think of the genre of like diner food. You eat Indian food once a week. Yeah, absolutely. You did not give us your rankings of the dishes. Right. I just said I threw fried chicken out there. I would say ice cream. Oh, my God. You can't say ice cream is your second favorite food. Why not?
Starting point is 00:28:06 You don't think it's a valid dish because it's a sweet treat? Do I have to say something savory? It is a dessert. OK, so I'll disqualify sweet treats. I'll just say like what's wrong with you? What's what's wrong with liking ice cream and as an adult man? You like I'm with Mitch. I if you can't have it normally for like say breakfast, lunch or dinner.
Starting point is 00:28:27 OK, so as a dessert, it doesn't count. That doesn't count. OK. I would say, hmm, I would say fried chicken is this is not a one. What was your first one again? Fried chicken. OK. So to clarify, we're we're starting out with fried chicken. In addition to fried chicken, we got a couple more. So we're starting with fried chicken in the in the pole position.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Then we've also got I think I might say. I'm not going to say this because it's going to make you make you guys make fun of me, so I'm not going to say this one. Oh, come on. No. So you got to say it. I'm not comfortable enough to make fun of you. Yes. And I won't. I think I think in my top three, I would put salads. You because I really enjoy a salad.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I have salads every day. I don't think that I enjoy a salad. You know, I've taught you before and you're unhappy when you eat their times when salads are a slog, but there are other times when it's like something comforting. So like, I like a really good salad and eat it with another frequency where I want. I like salad, too. But a main meal salad.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah. And entre salads always disappointing. I I a cob is I think it's great. I was right. A cob is good. Cob is one of the best salads that there is. I love a cob. But I'm saying, like, when I order a cob for lunch or when I order any main meal salad for lunch, I'd always want a sandwich before I'm doing it to be healthier.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Yeah. I feel like I've heard you guys have this conversation on this. But you know what? This could we could be repeating everything over again. This is verbatim. Just a transcript of a previous episode. I think specifically the I think specifically the like, like burrito, burger, pizza.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I don't know if we've had that exact discussion because I'm surprised by your by your Indian, your choice of Indian. Oh, wait, well, I guess that's fried chicken salads. All right. Look, I'll say fried chicken salads and then I will I will throw in burgers. I think burgers are one of my favorites. I love a good burger. I think I'd put burgers over salads.
Starting point is 00:30:11 One hundred. Yeah. What the fuck? I was going to say, you can't put salads. That's what I said. It was an unranked. It was an unranked list. It was just a grouping of three. But yes.
Starting point is 00:30:18 OK, I'll rank them. So I so I'm I'll say burgers, fried chicken and salad is now second. At what point did fried chicken enter the mix? Is that a forever thing or is that a thing of the past? That's a great. I've always loved fried chicken, but I will say it's it's something that I've developed more appreciation for in my thirties. Like it's something that I've had more of and said, like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:41 This is like a classic American food. This is so delicious and so comforting. Every time I have it, like whether whether it's like a low end, you know, you can have bad versions of anything. But whether it's it's a low end version that you can get from the grocery store, whether it's like a high end version from a gastropub, I always find ways that I'm satisfied with fried chicken reparations. I like buffalo wings a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Oh, yeah. Yeah, those are up there. I couldn't tell where you're going. You're like, yeah, but you do like them. Oh, they're like they're top five. That's something I eat very regularly. All right. What's your sauce?
Starting point is 00:31:13 What sauces do you go with with buffalo wings? Just the standard? Yes, I do. I mean, like if I'm out of like some bars, you don't have much to choose from and it's just basically about flowing. But I like to always when I can split the sauces and do like a medium and then just like the spiciest thing. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah, you're a heat seeker. You like to go for that. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Here's can I tell you one that I think should be tossed out of the wing flavors club? Get rid of fucking barbecue wings. I think I agree with you, Mitch.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I agree. They're bad. Yeah, there's no reason because I it's also I get so that that is something I think we were asked this question like a week or so ago, like what you get mad when people order. Yeah, if you order wings and you get barbecue flavored wings, get the fuck out of this party. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:31:56 What are you doing bullshit? It's one thing if you're you're grilling something up on on a charcoal grill and you got some barbecue sauce or that that's fine. If you got some some ribs or something. Yeah. But wait, yeah, we guys finally fucking said it and I was here. We're going on the record here. We're going hard.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Barbecue are bullshit. Where were you? There will be people treating us like you talked about this barbecue thing before or two. It's it's fine. We repeat ourselves constantly. Mitch, I was I was ready to hop over the table and start a fracas because I thought you were going to say lemon pepper wings could get out of here.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I was really worried. Yeah, what a garlic cheese. I don't even know. There are so many variations. I don't like lemon chicken, but that I know that that comes from a place of when I was younger. You have an aversion to it. My mom was making lemon chicken and I threw up and I smelled the lemon chicken
Starting point is 00:32:49 and I could never eat lemon chicken again. It was it. It was just stuck in me with me forever. I remember similarly or not, or maybe it's not similar at all. Just eating during my brother's baseball game, such a big bag of shelled peanuts, yeah, and barfing all of those peanuts. And oh, man, oh, man, but that lasted for like a month. I wasn't into peanuts.
Starting point is 00:33:14 I'm down with them. Oh, you're over it. You're good with it now. I like the thing I like about shelled peanuts is they're the fun, messy food. You can throw your trash all over this place. And it's like at a baseball game, you eat some peanuts. You throw the shells. You throw them on the ground or you throw them out in front of you.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Now, I want to be clear on nomenclature here. When you guys say shelled peanuts, you're referring to peanuts in shells? Yes, I was prefer I was referring to them out of shell. That's what that's how I've known it is. I mean, I was in I'm incorrect. Oh, OK. Oh, OK. Like it's shell, like the shelling is the process of removing it from the shell.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Oh, OK, shell doesn't have a shell. It's a little confusing. It's like the whole in flammable means flammable thing. I got you. Yeah, yeah. No, it's fun. It's cool. I just want to make sure we're on the same page. I'm not trying to be pedantic here, but I wasn't going to stop. OK, stop them. You know what happens nowadays at that avenue?
Starting point is 00:34:03 They'd say you got an allergy and you have to go out of the back of the bus. It'll be fucked up. It is. It is fucked up how they make people sit in a separate section of the bus if they have a peanut allergy. Jeez, it's good. Someone there has to be a kid with peanut allergies who sits in the front of the bus. It's so funny, like you say, I get so nervous to even like
Starting point is 00:34:24 even mess with the subject of what you're because I might offend somebody. But I do know that my mother, who lives in Northern California and who often takes care of my brother's children in their elementary school age, that she claims and she does it in such like kind of like a mom white woman way almost like now you can't even make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Like apparently she claims that you can't you can't use any peanut, peanut products at the school.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah, I think you can't in some school districts, you can't bring peanut products to school. You can't bring a peanut butter sandwich because an adverse kid might come into contact with it. Yeah, we only had in my growing up. We only had one kid who was who was like that. This guy, Brian Holt, I shouldn't say his name, Holt. And he also at my 10 year high school reading, he puked on my shoes.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I was talking to him and he was like putting his head down. I was like, what's wrong with you? And then he puked all over my shoes. Yeah, he was very drunk. Well, you're so as an adult man, this was your reunion. Yeah, I was as an adult man. This is years later. But when he was younger, he had like a caretaker with him
Starting point is 00:35:27 because he was like so allergic to food. Wow. That he couldn't like he couldn't eat any like he couldn't have like anything. And you consider this guy a friend. That guy sounds like a fucking loser. This point extra. They could have made peanuts. They would show it like there was this caretaker and how old is he?
Starting point is 00:35:51 I know he's got like a real. Mrs. Galaro was his caretaker. And she was she was she was older, but he didn't have a caretaker. By the way, when we went to our 10 year high school, he did not have the caretaker. I think Mrs. Galaro was long passed away at this point. Again, I think I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I totally didn't want to offend people with peanut allergies. And I think I just did it by taking on the characterization
Starting point is 00:36:13 of a Brian Holt. Yeah, 100 percent. It was pretty sorry. I did not apologize. Look, that's what those people sound like. If you have a peanut allergy, you're a classic square. Brian Holt and I were not close. So that is like right.
Starting point is 00:36:31 You remember like they were like like his like Mrs. Galaro was like, look at this. Like he has this thing where you can put it into an orange and like squeeze it around and you get the juice out of the orange. And we were like, that likes. You know, when some of my juice. Maybe I'm the Michael. And then and then orders me trying to hang out with him and him
Starting point is 00:36:56 not being interested in me. You see, you see my orange shoes. I don't know. I'm not going to I'm not going to commit to this. But what did he so then he barfed on your shoes? He's barfed on my shoes. Did he immediately apologize? Yeah, he he but it like I was like, what's wrong with this guy?
Starting point is 00:37:13 I was having over a few minutes. I was like, what's happening? And then all of a sudden he was just like and like threw up all over my shoes. And I was like, oh, he's like very drunk. Did he wait? Did he have two questions? What did he barf and did you keep the shoes? I kept the shoes.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I had to keep the shoes. I went and washed. I like went down to the bathroom. Wash the shoes, save the bar. Still got the bar. No, I was nice to him. Okay, Quincy fashion. I threw him in the ocean after.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Uh, did you really? No, I didn't throw him in the ocean. This guy at my 10 year high school reunion. Well, I don't know. I don't know that that's how it was out the 10 year. I've for some reason I had he said your sophomore year of high school. Oh, no, no, no. 10 year high school reunion.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. Oh, wow. So that's like not that was recently. Yeah, I was. Yeah, with like five years ago, six years ago. Yeah, like a 28 year old man just getting drunk off of his ass and I was picturing. Yeah, like a 18 year old kid the whole time. Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Yeah, he was he was he was 28 puked all over my shoes. He should be embarrassed. Well, now guess what? Now he is we can bleep his name. No, I say we keep it. So what we're going to keep Mrs. Scalaro's name in there, too. So it was just alcohol, a barf.
Starting point is 00:38:21 It wasn't like any sort of allergy related barf. Also, time out. Why are you so interested in what the barf looked like? What's wrong with you? Just trying to paint a picture for our listeners. They're curious about what kind of barf this was green. Just like Nicolo, like how Gack looks. It was like green bars.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I don't believe him. It burned my shoes, too. My shoes dissolved. Is that what you want to hear? This has to be a bit. So, Kyle, yeah, yeah, to transition. You're in New York City and you said on there earlier that that was funny to me.
Starting point is 00:38:57 How how is your because you're you're you're you're working to show that you go you work very late at night sometimes. Yeah, what is your eating? Like, how do you how do you eat in New York City? Like, do you do a lot of post like delivery post made? Well, yeah, so I spent a lot of during the work week. I'm in the office or around the office most of the week.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Yeah. So a lot of that will be just like and I and I try to stay sober during that week. So I try to like do the best that I can for my body because it's such a big build up to Saturday when we actually do the show, right? So a lot of it will just be like getting an intern to get me like a soup from down.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Like in the 30 Rock has a series of they've got like a food like a commas, not a commissary, but like a food court in essence. Sure, that only served soup. Hale and Hardy soup is where I usually get there's just salad. I'll get a salad from there occasionally. But then so I'll be pretty good throughout the week. But then Sunday is where we have the day off and I'll get a
Starting point is 00:39:56 chance to go out and take a full advantage of like being in the city and going and spoiling myself or going somewhere cool to eat or like getting drunk or something like that. Sunday is kind of your Friday. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Of course. Hell yeah. Are you a Sunday, Sunday guy, Nick?
Starting point is 00:40:13 I doesn't seem like it. Are you an any day fun day? I like a Sunday. I like to to relax. I'm a Sunday Meloday sort of guy. Most people who work at the show are like that because you'll you'll do the show. You'll it ends at 1 a.m.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And then we go to an after party. There's also an after after party. If you so choose to go to that, it could be an evening that you're out until 6 a.m. or 7 a.m. I don't usually go that late myself anymore. But most people tend to just spend their whole Sunday sleeping in until like five in the evening. That's intense.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah. But I I like to take advantage of it. So I I try to get out of the house by noon and get maybe get a crew together and and eat some burgers or some poppers and have some beers, play some games. So speaking of games, I don't I don't want to step on the restaurant, but we can get into it. All right, we can get into it.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Well, I'm going to start off with this. Are you are you big? Are you a big arcade fan? Are you like like are you like a fan of arcades? Because I was going to say this and this is here's a controversial statement. I kind of got to say, I think barcades are bad. I've only been to like one or two good barcades. I like them.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I like the idea of them. I just always think that it's like kind of like like like nine, like kind of like not even nineties, like eighties consoles that are like bad, like the the cabinets are actually not good. Yeah, there's too many of the I feel like a lot of times it depends on the the location, obviously. And I think we're talking we're talking about the concept of barcades, not particularly not the brand of arcade.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Is that what you're saying? No, I'm sorry. The concept is the idea of a combination place that sells alcohol. Yeah, exactly. So but yeah, a lot of them, they have like these really old cabinets that the games aren't necessarily super fun. So some of them hold up, but a lot of them, it's just like how much how long am I going to spend playing asteroids really?
Starting point is 00:42:04 You know, yeah. Well, yeah, certainly it has a lot to do with how the bar slash arcade is curated. I think to me, I like them a lot, and especially if they have good games, not to say that I'm I guess I'm generally a nostalgic person. I'm not like a massive arcade player or goer. But the the main negative that I find in them is just that, like, if you're with a group of people, which you usually are, like, even though I go to the there's a barcade on like 23rd Street,
Starting point is 00:42:39 not far from my house that I go to alone, but usually with a group of people. And it is like it's not something you can enjoy with. You know, you're stuck to the game. You're playing unless you're playing against somebody. Everybody kind of goes their own separate way for, like, you know, 30 minutes. I agree with that. Maybe that's a part of my issue with it. Here's one of my problems with the barcade.
Starting point is 00:42:58 What are you supposed to do with your brood dog when you're twiddling a joystick? Where do you set that bad boy? A lot of them have, like, Yeah, there's usually tables and stuff. Well, I feel like I've run into a situation where I don't have a place to set my beverage while I'm playing some X-Men. I think most of them have now figured that out.
Starting point is 00:43:15 OK, you maybe went to the first barcade. And I'm judging it off that. I may be remembering a childhood arcade and you know where to put your I went to Belly's Castle. We do a lot of there's a bar in New York called Fat Cat in the West Village. I go to a lot and they have, like, we do a lot of shuffleboards. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, I like that. I do really like that.
Starting point is 00:43:36 That's the thing I really like because, you know, with arcade games, I feel like they're reached a point. And basically, I think around the year 2000, where home consoles just leapfrogged arcade games and the graphics are just better on home consoles. And the gameplay is deeper. It was probably even earlier than that, you know, probably in the 16 bit era when they were really making that transition. I think graphics were certainly better, I think, up until up through the PlayStation era.
Starting point is 00:44:03 But in any event, the thing that I think that arcade games can deliver on is just like spectacle. And so when you have like a sit down like driving game or you have like a pinball machine or like, yeah, you're mentioning like a like an air hockey, like a shuffleboard, like things like that are like really they're these fun, visceral things that you can experience at home with your PlayStation. And I really like I really like seeing that in these sorts of concepts. You know, we try to we think that any who I don't know who exactly said this,
Starting point is 00:44:34 but you'll know who any like a glorified tablet game is garbage and get it out. Yeah, I think that was if there's crazy birds or something. I think our buddy, Mattie Smith was talking about this with us. But yeah, because that's a big thing at Dave and Buster's these days. But I was going to say, I like Dave and Buster. It's kind of leans towards more like what I want a barcade to be than a lot of the barcades are. Yeah, that is because of the.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Well, that's also like a ticket culture. Yeah, I guess it is a ticket. Yes. And speaking of ticket culture. Yeah, speaking of ticket culture, let's talk about the L.A. Parking Authority. Oh, boy. Hey, I forgot about Street Sweep. And where does Betty T. You were she help us out with that?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yes, Betty T. If you're listening, help us out with this parking situation. You're just state controller. I don't know what you control exactly. But hopefully it's parking because these guys are out of control, Nick. I'm going to ask you before we move on to this. Yes. Favorite pub game.
Starting point is 00:45:35 What is it? Pub,Man, hashtag pump face. What do you mean by a pub game? Do you mean like something you would play in an actual bar that doesn't have an arcade set up? It could be Arcade. If there's an arcade game, you could you can include it, too. But do you like do you like shuffleboard?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Do you like a do you like darts? Like what do you what do you what do you like, man? I have a favorite. OK, I'll say my favorite. I want to hear yours. I want to hear Kyle's a hashtag pub fave. That's what you say, pub fave or pub faves. Yeah, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Pub faves, pub fave, hashtag pub faves. Here's my fate. Here's what I would go for. And I'm not very good at it. And you could probably I'm bad enough at it where you would make fun of me if you tried to play me again, play me in it. But I love it because it's very fun pool.
Starting point is 00:46:17 OK, big pool guy, a big pool. Haven't heard of it. Pulled like billiards, like you have a stick, you have some balls. Not like I mean, it's not like a swimming pool. It's like water isn't involved. Don't know what that is either. OK, all right. It's like a body of water manmade, usually a concrete structure.
Starting point is 00:46:34 OK, all right. We'll have to catch you up on that. Mitch, what's your what's your pub favorite pub? I don't know. Because I because I'm trying to think of what what you mean exactly by shuffleboard, but I like I like the game. I was picturing air hockey. Some people refer to it as a shuffle puck.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Also, yes, no, it's a long wooden board. And then you can score one, two, three points. Oh, I know what you mean. Yeah, right. So basically the pucks furthest score. Yeah, that's so my favorite is an offshoot of that is the one with the bowling pins that is like the shuffle puck. And then they'll they'll go, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:10 Like they like if you slide on there, they'll go up. Is that candlepin bowling or is that something different? No, no, no, this is it is like it is like shuffle now. I know you're but is that I can't say that I've played that I can visualize it. And I feel like I must have played as a child, but you don't know you don't know on both sides or is it just on one side? I think it's just on one side. OK, because shuffleboard or puck is two sides like two on two on each side.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Yeah, OK. But you so you can visualize that you still don't know pool. You've never heard the word pool. You've never heard the word pool before. I was lying about the pool thing. I'm sorry, I had to come out for you, man. It seemed too easy. It was it was great.
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm glad you did. It was a lot of fun. Is it would that be with that? That beats out beer pong and everything for everybody. I think you could have that. You're talking about a party game. Yeah, I think you can include though. I guess it's not going to play.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Yeah, yeah, I love if we're going there. I mean, like beer pong is great. Flip Cup is maybe my favorite. Flip Cup is fun. It's a very communal thing. You know, we don't play it enough as it does. I don't play it as much anymore. Nick, we're going to play it.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Or if I like I like to like drink games a lot. Yeah. King's Cup is another one. I do play like probably, I'm going to say 10 times a year. Do you? Oh, that's pretty good. Wow. I don't play as much anymore. Yeah, I never play a drinking game anymore. Have you ever played a drinking game?
Starting point is 00:48:32 Yeah, I have played drinking games like college stuff. OK. But no, no, not sense with people or solo. I think I was on my own playing some some never will I ever you heard myself dare. Anyways, I went I got into I walked into Shakies today. We went to Shakies. I found Kyle was a Kyle got there a few minutes before us.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Maybe 10. How long were you? I don't know. There were you were up here about 10 minutes, 10 minutes. Thanks for waiting. No, it's all good. You had you had won a bunch of tickets. From from which game were you playing?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Well, this is a similar to what we were just talking about. This is what you I guess the arcade is it's a ticket thing. Like all the games are built around the there's no street fighter or anything like that. The games I were playing. So all the games are there so that you can win tickets to potentially get prizes. So they've got one of the classic ones is I don't know what you refer to that. It's like a circular you try to stop the lights. They go around and around and you can go from multiple ends
Starting point is 00:49:37 and the lights just go on different amounts of tickets like five or ten. But then there's a jackpot one. Yeah, if you if you stop it, the light at the right point, you can win the jackpot and the jackpot is constantly raising as people like like you're playing the jackpot. But it's it's difficult to hit that. And like you're you're usually going to end up on like the one on either ten or five tickets on either side of it or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Did you win the jackpot? I did not win the jackpot. So I played that like a few times and I probably ended up with like 40 tickets from that just from getting ten tickets multiple times. I'm sorry to be so specific. They also have one of these things, which I think exists at Dave and Buster as well, which is like a big wheel, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Where it spins and and then it just stops and lands on a different on a different amount of tickets. Kind of a price of right prices, right? Exactly. Yeah. And I won 50 tickets on that, which is I thought was pretty impressive. Yeah. So you won about a hundred tickets. Yeah, total. And so when you approached me, I was putting the tickets into my tickets
Starting point is 00:50:41 into the ticket, yeah, the ticket feeder that gives you like a little coupon. And he he gets his receipt, Nick. It says eight tickets. Wow. Here and I was fucked. I will add this. Also, I don't know if you notice, but the there is a counter, like a screen that you're looking at that I think is supposed to show you
Starting point is 00:51:01 how many tickets it's like you're it counts them all. So it's like you in theory would be building like five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, etc. But it was just like fucked up. It was just like it looked like a clock with like missing lights on it. You know what I'm saying? Like a digital red clock. Anyway, so yeah, I got the eight tickets back after putting in a hundred. And I was moment for a moment, very frustrated.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yes, I agree with you. I was going to gift my idea was to gift these tickets to there were a lot of kids playing. Yeah. Oh, that would have been nice. And you can't like if you give a kid eight tickets, you'd be like, embarrassing. Fuck you. Yeah. What are you doing? But I'm just curious. So the redemption system is, I guess it's like a Vegas casino where you play
Starting point is 00:51:43 with a slot machine and they used to give you coins. But now they give you like a voucher that you go to to cash out. Is that the idea is like you get actual regular tickets. So you get physical tickets, you put those into a machine, then that gives you like a receipt. Yeah. OK. Yeah. And it's weird. There's like children in suits.
Starting point is 00:51:55 They're watching you the whole time like Vegas, like making like a pit boss. Like pit bosses. Wow. Like a pit boss baby. Yeah. Hey, yeah. That could be one of the shitty movie ideas you try to write. I can't wait to write pit boss, pit boss, baby. Direct to video in 2027. So it was a wait.
Starting point is 00:52:13 So you've got so you take them. That seems like an unnecessary step because I remember you used to just give the tickets to the person working the counter and then they would just redeem it for a prize. The help I think in theory, it helps multiple ways. One, you're saving the person at the counter. You're helping them do their job. Right. Also, like if you want to come back, you're not having to.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Let's say I want to leave today. Come back tomorrow. I don't need to come back with 150 tickets. I can come back. Oh, that's true. That's nice. You know, you'd see people at the arcade back in the day and they'd have those old tickets. Yeah. They come in with a bunch of old tickets.
Starting point is 00:52:52 They have like that giant spool. Yeah, they have a giant spool. You know, that's embarrassing. We don't do that. It's 2017. But it was like, you know, I'm not a very confrontational person and, you know, I really have to like weigh my options when it comes to am I going to say anything about this? How important is this to me? And I was I was urging you to say something.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Not important to me. Right. Because like the best case scenario is I guess I get the 120 tickets I mode and then I have to like use them to exchange for some piece of shit that I'll never. You could have bought those big playing cards that look pretty nice. I was when I was looking at those playing cards, I was thinking about this would be pretty good for Kings Cup.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Well, like oversize playing cards oversize playing. Yeah, that was great. I think they were 175. I don't know if that I would have found it. We would have gotten there. Yeah, we could have done that. But anyways, that this is a big part of Shaky's this arcade side of Shaky. So sure for me, a guy who didn't grow up here.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Did you guys have experiences with this when you were younger? Because for me, there were places like this all over the place. And a lot of the times they were shitty. I feel like this place doesn't even try to do. I feel like it's just like a smaller. So very small. Yeah, it's a small section. It doesn't try to be like I feel like it's so many.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Like I went to like bonkers and all these places. I've talked about on the podcast before, like a girl got scalped when she was riding a ride at one of them. There's like horrifying story. It's a terrible story. I shouldn't bring it up even the one time I shouldn't have brought it up. But like there are all these places that are kind of like shitty and they try to be Chucky.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Is that why Brian Holt barfed? He saw this girl get sculpted. Oh yeah, he barfs. Oh, he was barfing his entire life because he was there for that moment. Man. That's why I was drinking so much. No, that was like it was always. It was kind of always like these like, yeah, shitty.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Like there would be like a mechanical animal or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure, but this place doesn't even try, which I appreciate actually. It's not in your face, but is that is that the way it always was when you guys went to these places when you were younger? I'll let Kyle weigh in. But my suspicion is that what I think what Shakies has done over the years is they've kind of retrofitted what used to be more of a parlor slash beer hall.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And that that was how it originated as I touched on to my in my intro a bit for for the listeners is that it like, I think it was more of an adult establishment and they sort of like saw where their business was headed and said, like, OK, we have to do more kids stuff. So they added like an arcade section because I remember there always being arcade games, but for me, it was like the same as like the arcade section at Round Table Pizza. It was just like a few games that were just kind of there as part of the experience.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I don't know what's your memory of it, Kyle? I assume you're correct. I actually didn't go to a Shakies until I moved out here, OK, which was probably 2000. Do they have them in San Diego? I think I've after in researching before hooking up with you guys, I think I saw they do have they do have them in San Diego. But I was not I certainly was not aware of them. But yeah, I think so I probably went there in 2006 and it was a similar set up.
Starting point is 00:55:54 But I imagined that, as you said, when did the company start like the fifties? 1954, I believe. So probably that you have the success of Chuck E. Cheese, right? Kind of like, you know, now it's like, oh, this is something we can. Utilize, I suppose, right? Combination, the success of Chuck E. Cheese plus kind of the decline of, you know, you used to have the pizza hut where we're going to dine in and the big pizza hut.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Now those stores are all gone. They're all these small, little, you know, ones of the size of cell phone stores now. Well, can I tell you that before that I had an appreciation for for feeling like an old pizza hut for me. Like, right, it feels it kind of does feel like what pizza hut used to feel like. Absolutely. It's a little frozen in time in that regard. Yeah. And I and I and I love it.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And I and I'm like, oh, this like still does work like a like a like a place like this does still work in my mind. And my first observation just going in there is that it was pretty crowded. We went, we went kind of late. Went for a late lunch at the tail end of the buffet service tail end of the buffet. There was a good amount of people in there, not packed. Don't get me wrong. But I'd say there was like what, like 20 to 30 customers, right?
Starting point is 00:57:01 I suspected there were. Yeah, I think there were people hanging around still for me in the lunch buffet, which is a very good value. But I think also, too, I think there were some kids out of school, you know, because it's like, it's probably like I think it's like maybe the first week of school recording this in the first week, the first week of September back. It's a bummer. They're going back guys. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:18 To all, please. No. To all our young, our all our young listeners, you're back and it's a bummer, right? We used to it. Yeah. Yeah. We know we allow a lot of second and third graders who listen to the podcast for some reason. Sorry, guys. Someday you'll be an adult and you won't have a summer vacation. So there's that.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Unless you become a teacher. No, there you go. And then you could have one. Mm hmm. Yeah, just a little point. My mom was a teacher, so I know that for a fact. God bless your mom. Yeah, everyone.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Very noble profession. They don't have to end if you don't want them to. Right. You can just be a teacher. Just fucking teach, bro. And you always get that summer vacay. Well, I guess you're probably right that there were probably some. Maybe this was like kind of like the last hurrah or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Or you had your first week of school and you wanted a little have a little celebration. Mom and dad are taking you out to for some pizza. Yeah, I don't know. It's Friday, right? Friday. Yeah, you know, sometimes they have half days. Who knows? We're there after 2 p.m.
Starting point is 00:58:21 too. I feel like some schools would have maybe not out. It seemed like they were in great moods. I was so excited to potentially give them my 100 or so 120 tickets. Yeah. And that never happened. But I didn't have to interact with them, which was, I guess, nice, maybe to. It is. The arcade is like.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I have. How much do you guys talk about your history with these restaurants? Please, as much as you want. I'm not this is not substantial by any means. But so I went there for the first time when I was probably a junior in college. This dude who was basically passing me down his job as an assistant at a literary agency was training me. And for lunch, he took me to the.
Starting point is 00:59:09 This is when you were in college. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. You took me to the Shaky's the lunch buffet, which we missed. But but then I like became aware of it. And you can you can always you can tell them in L.A. Not only because they have a distinct exterior, but also like oftentimes the sign outside, they'll have a birthday message. I don't know if you've ever caught that.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Yeah, absolutely. Be like happy birthday, Paul or whoever. But I did have one Ryan. It's weird. They're always celebrating conservative politicians. Yeah, happy birthday, Mick Mulvaney was like, what are you doing that? I never understood that. Yeah, it's disorienting.
Starting point is 00:59:52 It doesn't make sense. It's strange. Yeah, I graduated the Madison's on a happy anniversary. What? I always see that and I always feel like, well, when it's not the Republicans, I always feel like it's that's like a what a fun, nice thing that must be for like a kid. Oh, man, I'm just so excited. If I got my name up there, if that hit at the right age, I'd be so excited. And then if that hit just a little bit, I'd be excited now.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I'd be excited now. But there would be a window. There would have been like probably age 11 through 16, where I would have been embarrassed. Sure. Like you would have been just kind of like the self conscious. If it's in that sweet spot, it would feel like you're rich. It would feel awesome. My brother, I don't know if I mentioned this in the podcast before.
Starting point is 01:00:34 I think it tweeted out once. But what my there, we had a warehouse video. Did they have a warehouse video in San Diego and it was a California? Yeah, we did. Yeah. We're house music existed initially. OK. But then, yeah, but yes. And then they added a video rental section in response to Blockbuster. So yeah, it was kind of like the big rental chain that was in that was in California in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:00:54 And my dad was the customer of the week once at at the warehouse video. And they put there was the same thing. They have a marquee and they put your name up and it's a customer of the week, George Weigar. And it's school, unless the video is ready, right? OK. All right. I'm not going to be impugned. My father is some sort of pornographic video renter. He was behind that curtain quite a bit.
Starting point is 01:01:16 We rented a lot of family films. We rented a lot of things. We were avid video renters. Did he ever go behind that curtain where the adult stuff is? What when I was not when I was there, you know, there was a video place. When nurses return. But anyway, I did. I had that just to start real quick.
Starting point is 01:01:34 I had my dad was my dad's name was up there. Customer of the week, George Weigar, a kid at school, like, congratulated me. He was like, he's like, oh, I saw your dad's name up there. Was it Brian Holt? And how did your father feel about it? I think my dad was pretty proud. I was. Yeah, he was walking tall. I mean, to be the customer of the month or week was it was of the week.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I think it was. It means like you're renting so consistently. You're returning your rentals on time. Yeah, we were great. We I mean, we were we would always rewind those movies. And we were returning definitely within that window because my dad was not paying any late. Did he get like a big head? Was he like, uh, did he get like, did he become?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Did he get too big of a head after you? Yeah, he started throwing that around a lot of times, which is like going to a restaurant and say, do you know who I am? The customer of the week, a piece of shit. Uh, anyway, so I, uh, I started going to shaky's a couple of times a year at the end of my college time and go probably once a year-ish when I'm out here in LA. One time, though, specifically, I remember I did.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I celebrated a birthday there, which was I just graduated from college in my sketch group. Good neighbor. We were going going to go do a comedy festival in Austin, Texas. But my mom came to LA and took us to I think I guess it was the same shaky's we were at, maybe. Oh, wow. Today, I think so. Maybe not, though.
Starting point is 01:02:59 But anyway, they're all very, very similar. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, this was a period. This was fall of 2007. This was a time when spinners were a big thing on cars. Oh, yes. On the wheels, so that like it almost like it could look like a car could be like moonwalking because the wheels would be going in one direction
Starting point is 01:03:17 and then the spinners within them would be moving in the opposite direction. It was a confusing time. Yeah. Right. There. So we were playing me, Nick Rutherford, Beck Bennett and Dave McCary were playing games in the shaky's and all doing fine. One of the prizes they had, though, was this this watch that had a spinner on it.
Starting point is 01:03:38 So it was like two pieces and one of them rotated, in essence. But it was a pretty fun to play with. And it was like it sounds great. Silver. And I think it said like pimp on it or something like that. But we did not have enough for the watch. But I think it was Nick and Dave. Dave asked the lady behind the counter. Do you? Can you? How much is that stuffed animal up there?
Starting point is 01:04:01 Whatever it was, that board game? Well, it's like, oh, let me check or like, let me see if I can grab it for you. Rutherford, I think, snuck his arm underneath the glass case to just take away the. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He stole it. So you know what? No wonder why that machine gave you eight tickets. It's still karma. It's karma.
Starting point is 01:04:22 It's it's it's clocking. It wasn't me. I didn't take it. You're responsible for Rutherford. Then gifted it to me because it was my birthday. Wow. And you did the right thing and you returned the coming on. Doe boys. Now your conscience is clear. We'll take a break. We'll be right back with more dough boys.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Welcome back to dough boys. We're here with Kyle Mooney talking shaky speed. So let's get into our meal today. We had we got there. Kyle, you when I arrived, I was actually the last one there. You guys were chilling at the bar. You got yourself a picture of Bud Light. It's a hot day. It's 104 degrees today.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Very toasty. I could not wait for that beer. I got to be honest. It was very nice. It was a great. It was nice. I don't usually do like an afternoon beer like that. And it was a not it was great. It was a great treat. You guys had a glass waiting for me. It was very nice.
Starting point is 01:05:14 We did. It was very included. It was like cheers. It was just like cheers. It was just like cheers. I don't like that TV show. Cheers. I felt a lot like the TV show. Cheers when you and when you walked in.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Hey, when the male person came earlier, maybe that was Cliff Clavin. That's my house. Well, there was a male person in Jakey's, too. Oh, right. It was a lot like cheers. It was exactly like cheers. And you came in and we said hi, Weigart. And the whole place said hi, Weigart.
Starting point is 01:05:43 It was, yeah, it was except there's three stools at the bar. The bar is almost non-existent. Yeah. It's also one of those situations where you can't order at the bar. You've got to go to a separate place to order the beer and then you get a ticket to bring to the bar. And I think that the bartender must be like,
Starting point is 01:06:02 like notified because he came out. Like we went inside of the bar and no one came. Then we went and ordered it and all of a sudden like, there must be a maybe some sort of bell system as my guess. Very nice guy, too. A very nice man who was alerted most likely by this bell system I mentioned. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:18 You wouldn't shut up about this bell system. Did you suspect it was at play? I think there was some sort of ringing or something of like a bell or something like that, that where this man knew, like the bell rang, he heard it and he came out. He was a very nice. He kind of looked like a, like he had like suspenders
Starting point is 01:06:35 and like a ghost. Like an old man ghost. He was trying to grab mugs and his hands were going through them. He didn't look like the type of guy and I mean this in the least mean way, but like that, like he could be a figment of our imagination. Yeah, very much so.
Starting point is 01:06:57 He had like suspenders in the mustach. He was very, he was a very, he was a very like he would be great to cast in the movie or something. He had a great look and that's probably why he works at the Hollywood shakies. Trying to get seen. You can get seen. It's true.
Starting point is 01:07:12 And I don't remember seeing him again after we were, we got that initial picture of beer. And then we asked about him and they said he, there's no one who's worked here that looks like that for over 50 years. Right. For over 500 years. Great.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Shakies hasn't been here that long. Well, sorry. Yeah. She just said, well, sorry. You can walk away. But that was a, hey, you know what? Sometime like a beer gives me a lot of, I used to love beer so much. And I love Bud Light.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I do love Bud Light. I know a lot of people give me a hard time for that on this podcast specifically, but it really just hit the spot today that nice cold beer wasn't, it was great. It was crisp, cool and delicious. I thought they had a nice, a nice pour there. And I really, you know, you sometimes give me a,
Starting point is 01:07:58 you sometimes dog pile of me for some midday drinking, but I, it's night, it's refreshing to have a little, a slight buzz in the afternoon sometimes if you got nothing else going on. I truly love to get fucked up. And if I don't have work to do, I'll do it. But you, when you say fucked up, do you mean like blitz or do you mean just like,
Starting point is 01:08:20 just kind of drinking enough to feel good? I don't like, I guess like prior to say five PM, I don't like to get too wasted. Because then it's like you're, I'll fall asleep or something like that. Yeah, you just get so tired. That's my issue. I like a nice, but I like to always keep a nice,
Starting point is 01:08:34 like I don't always keep a nice Bud Light. I always like to keep a nice Bud Light. I like to keep a nice Buzz, like a little, like a nice little Buzz. But I've always had sort of some of the guilt thing with like weekdays and drinking. You know, I will say like, and sorry to take it away from Shaggy's for a moment.
Starting point is 01:08:53 We're talking about New York and California. When I lived out here, and I lived here for a decade, and I was not super into day drinking, but New York I think has gotten me more into it because there's bars all over the place. And you're often like, you know, meeting somebody and waiting for a while.
Starting point is 01:09:09 So you'll just go to a local bar and have a day drink. It's way more a drinking culture in New York, for sure. Well, you don't have to drive. I mean, that's a big part of it. But I remember like even in college or something, I would always feel like on weekdays. I mean, besides the fact that like, I would be just like useless when I drank.
Starting point is 01:09:25 You know what I mean? Like if I drank on a Wednesday night, like that Thursday I'd be useless and I wouldn't go to class or whatever. But like I always had some sort of guilt thing about drinking during the day or drinking on weekdays. That's kind of strange, but I don't know. I can understand that.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Like I was like, oh, I shouldn't do this at this time. I think that's fair. That's changed over and I still don't do it too much, but sometimes when you get that Bud Light and it's the right, it was like the right temperature outside and it was nice and cold. It's just, you can't beat it. It's the best.
Starting point is 01:09:56 It's really, it's just so quenching. It was great. And you don't mean Bud Light specifically? No, I mean beer. I mean beer, but I do, I genuinely like Bud Light. Right. So we had that beer. We had that beer we moved over to the counter.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Yeah, we were weighing, getting the buffet, but the buffet was shut down. We watched the lights of the buffet get shut off. Which was kind of like, I thought that was a little intense to like just shut the lights off on the pizza, right? Like, I guess it's ending and they don't want to have it on display, but like there were people still going up and getting like slices in the dark, basically.
Starting point is 01:10:26 But they were like, we got to turn these lights off. It was helpful though. I think, I am thankful. Yeah. I did do like a, you walked by the buffet. I think I walked by it before. I was pushing for the buffet. But I was glad to get a fresh pie.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah, it was nice. And also too, like that was a good cue because that let us know that that had been sitting there for some time. Yeah. You were pushing for the buffet in the weird way that you weren't really even pushing for the buffet. We were like, should we get the buffet?
Starting point is 01:10:52 You're like, yeah, that could be good. I don't know. That's like about what you were saying. We were like, should we get it? And you're like, yeah, I don't know. I don't think we can do anything we want to do. And I was like, well, what should we do? And then it felt like a long time.
Starting point is 01:11:03 You think I was being passive aggressive? What are you accusing me of? Not passive aggressive, passive, maybe. I don't know. It was the thing I didn't have a strong opinion, but I felt like maybe the buffet was the right move. It was weird for you to now say you were pushing for the buffet. I was pushing for the buffet.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah, I wasn't pushing hard for it, but I was pushing for it. All right, fine. We're not going to fight in front of Kyle. I was nudging for the buffet. We're not fighting in front of Kyle. Right, but I know we made that pact ahead of time. We're not fighting in front of Kyle.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Thank you. So we went over to the, and there's this big app. That menu is kind of, it's like more even, like not even like a ton of options, but just kind of seemed more complicated to me than other menus. Yeah, cause a big thing is they're trying to sell you on, let me get the acronym right.
Starting point is 01:11:41 I'm going to read it off of my notes here. The PCM. PCM. Pizza, chicken, mojo potatoes. That's what the M stands for. Very close to the PCH, Pacific Coast, which both of you I'm sure are huge fans of. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:53 The PCH. Oh, love the PCH. Usually further away from where I usually stay. It's close to you. Yeah, it's pretty close to me. But I like it, but it's very pretty. It's cool, and it's cool that it exists. It's a great, it's a great ride.
Starting point is 01:12:06 You go through Big Sur, Nick, right? Oh, if you want to go you all the way up the coast, yeah, you can. I'm saying you go up the coast, there's Big Sur. My understanding is that it runs all the way down into Central America as well, as you can just keep taking the one. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:17 Yeah. The PCH, it goes all the way down. I think, I mean, it could be wrong about this, but there's one of these highways that I think the one keeps going past the border. I wonder how far south it go. Hopefully, I just, if you don't go on it too long, you might have to up in hell.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Oh my God. Do you think that's possible? That's the highway to hell ACDC was referring to. You'd take in the highway one too far south. You pass Encinita. You know what? That would make an awesome Twilight Zone episode. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Let's just see where this highway ends if we just keep going south. In the end, there in hell. But you know what, being in Twilight Zone, they'd end up with this diner at the very end of the road. They'd be like, oh, this diner. And then they'd learn that that was hell. The diner was hell.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Yeah, they learned that the guy working the counter, there was the devil. And he didn't even seem that mean or anything? No, it wasn't that bad. And they're like, I guess this is not so bad. My mom was always like, I was so afraid of Twilight Zone. And I would rewatch and be like, you're dumb. This is like, it's not that scary.
Starting point is 01:13:15 There's a couple that are creepy. I watched the Two-Serve Man Twilight Zone when I was eight at my grandpa's house. And like, I couldn't sleep. I was so scared. God damn it. Oh, you're joking around? No, I'm being serious.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Oh my God. The Two-Serve Man one is that these aliens land. This was, it was parodied in the first Treehouse of Horror, I believe, the first in the Treehouse of Horror. But these aliens land and they seem like these benevolent beings and they bring this book called Two-Serve Man. And everyone is like, we love these aliens. These aliens are great.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And at the end, the aliens are going to take a bunch of humanity back to their home world where they can experience this utopia that they have built. And so as they're, as this huge pack of people, huge line of people are piling on to their spaceship, this man runs after. He's uncovered the truth. He's like, no, don't get on.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Two-Serve Man, it's a cookbook. And that's the twist that these aliens do. You were so scared of that? I was so scared of the fact of being eaten by aliens that I couldn't sleep. He's fucking dork. I was right, because I remember I tried to calm down, so I went and sat in my grandpa and grandma's pool
Starting point is 01:14:21 in the backyard by myself. Just because I was like, I was like, I like swimming. I'll just sit in the pool. And that'll make me, I'll feel better. And so I just sat in the steps of the pool and was just like terrified. And then I never talked to anybody about it. I probably should just talk to my parents.
Starting point is 01:14:33 They'd be like, what's your problem? It's fine. But I just, I kept it to myself and I couldn't sleep. Now, do you guys have persons in your life? Maybe you are these persons who like, will watch an episode of TV or a movie and will like, in essence, guess the plot before it's happening. My dad does that.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah. My dad used to do it too. And he claimed that he had like such a great record. You know what I mean? Right. I always know how these things are going to end. But I do like the idea of like the person watching that Twilight Zone episode and knowing immediately like,
Starting point is 01:15:04 yeah, that's what, it's because they're going to cook them. To serve, man, what do you serve? You serve food, it's cookbook. Lock it up. Next. That's funny for your dad to say, I always know how these things are going to end. Like these things meaning like millions of movies.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Exactly. Weigar, I wanted to say that your grandparents were probably freaked out by you sitting alone by the pool. Scarier than the Twilight Zone, this weird child. That is like such a dorky pun one. I know it is. It's so stupid. Why did that make me scared?
Starting point is 01:15:38 I don't know. You're a loser. I was terrified. Serling was an Ithaca guy. Was he really? Yeah. He was a professor at Ithaca at one point. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Good on Serling. And he loved smoke, dude. And he loved to eat people. Well, you mean Serling liked the green? Serling likes the green, man. I could hang out with Serling, buddy. How do you think you came up with that? You song, he was an Ithaca guy, right?
Starting point is 01:16:04 Oh, you millennial. He doesn't even know what Twilight Zone is. You song, do you know who Rod Serling is? He has something to do with the Twilight Zone. OK, wait. You pulled that together from context clear. You went to Cornell for crying out loud. You song, you should feel ashamed is what we're saying.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Let's not generationally shame you song. I think we should. Anyways. I'm surprised that someone doesn't know, isn't super familiar with Rod Serling. I thought he was a little bit more kind of like that. Because I mean, the Twilight Zone went off the air in the what? The 50s?
Starting point is 01:16:34 Yeah, but everything we're describing does sound shitty. It does sound really stupid. Twilight Zone's great. A lot of Twilight Zones are good. There's good stuff. Anyways, moving on. Yeah, so OK. So we got the PCM as we figured out it's not the PCH.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Has nothing to do with the highway to hell. But so we got a pizza. We got a and that pizza was half shaky special, which is salami, pepperoni, Italian sausage, seasoned ground beef, mushroom, and black olives. Which Kyle called out for it was a great choice. And then also half pepperoni. And then we got some golden fried chicken.
Starting point is 01:17:05 You get four pieces of fried chicken. We got these mojo potatoes. And if you're not familiar with the mojo potatoes, they're kind of home fries shaped. They're like, they're like, what's the word I'm looking for? Not diced, sliced potatoes. They're kind of sliced potatoes that are deep fried. I think in the same batter as the fried chicken.
Starting point is 01:17:22 So they've got like a good crisp coating on them. And then we also got ourselves some salad bar and that pitcher of Brew Dogs, as we mentioned before. Let's talk about it. I mean, I guess let's talk about in the sequential order. We started with a salad bar, which is pretty pricey for what you get. It was $7.29 per person.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I guess if you're going to do that as a meal in and of itself, it's a pretty good value. But if you're just adding that onto a dinner, it's a lot for basically one or two dishes of salad, I felt like. Yeah. Yeah, we probably shouldn't have done the, because I mistakenly thought that it came with it.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Right. And then it didn't. And then she was like, do you want it? And then we decided to get it. It was it was good to have. I feel like especially considering all the excuse me, all the food that came afterwards, which is some heavy food. I thought the produce was decently fresh.
Starting point is 01:18:04 And I thought they had a pretty good selection there. I thought the salad bar was pretty good. I thought it was good. What do you think, Kyle? Yeah, I was a little intimidated at first. It was somewhat sad looking. Right. But but I enjoyed my salad.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Also, I will say like in retrospect, it was maybe a good move because it took a while for our entree. Yeah. Yeah, we were waiting to show up. So like it was nice to have. Yeah, was it was I would say at least maybe 20 to 25 minutes maybe before it came out, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Somewhere around there was it was it was a while. But but the the salad bar you what you kind of I noticed you got broccoli on there. That was the on your salad. I went like the classic Nick. We do this a lot. But there were there were no carrots. Did you notice that it was weird?
Starting point is 01:18:45 I think they kind of assumed that because I put some some cheddar cheese on it and I was like, oh, but I'll balance it out with some carrots. And there weren't any carrots. So I was like, I want cucumbers instead. Yeah, I did. I did it because there was romaine and like a whatever like a iceberg mix. And I did that some onions and some cheddar cheese, some croutons and some ranch, like the classic what we call like the classic buffet salad or whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:11 But yeah, I want to put put put put some carrots on there. And they were they were nowhere to be found. I think it carrots is like a staple. The only thing I would say is because they had two salad mixes. And I think the other salad mix, the one that was mostly iceberg, had some carrots thrown into it. So maybe they were like, that takes the place of the carrots. But I would like some kids some standalone carrots.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Yeah, yeah, I was pretty happy with the general mix of things. They had jalapenos in there, which I threw online. They had the sunflower seeds, which are always fun. Yeah, I threw some seeds on mine. Yeah, there were some interesting things and to not have like a little carrot selection. Right, because they had cottage cheese and I think ambrosia too. They had some weird things when you guys talk about these salads.
Starting point is 01:19:51 I think like, and I'm sure you've brought this up, but so I apologize. But the thickness or thinness of the dressing comes into play. And I thought it was a pretty good ranch relative. Yeah, I thought the ranch was good. I got the blue cheese and I liked it. I like the consistency is pretty viscous. And then also to, you know, sometimes it's disgusting. OK, I'm sorry for saying viscous.
Starting point is 01:20:08 I guess that evokes evokes something. Unpleasant. Yes. But but the here's another thing that sometimes has some with salad bar salads is that the greens are moist and so you have a lot of liquid on them. And so that doesn't it doesn't work sit well with that dressing. But these were these were nice and dry, so worked out fine. Yeah. OK, and then we got into we were sitting for some time waiting for our food. I will say the servers, I thought were very, very nice.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I thought they were very accommodating. Came by offered us another pitcher, which was great. Brought us some some extra ranch and jalapenos on our request, very, very accommodating, which is something I feel like they don't even usually do. And yeah, they were being they were being nice to us. They're being very nice. You might have recognized you guys. You think so? You think they knew we were the dope boys? The dope boys? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:49 You think they recognized us? We're sitting with someone who's a lot more. Sharon, get out there now. The boys are here. The boys are here. Oh, God. Well, that's a nice kind of dream we could have that people would. I mean, neither of us would like that, if that was the case.
Starting point is 01:21:10 But I saw that. I saw that Tamo Shantar tweeted that you guys in the last like 24 hours. They did. You know what? They said that Nick, they said that you would never be allowed to be a VIP member. It was really upsetting. I mean, look here, I did not mean to bring up. No, that's OK. I mean, you know, they were they were kind of trying to have fun with
Starting point is 01:21:29 and Mitch set him up for something and they were kind of playing along. But yeah, we this is I think that they might be more genuine and you can't be a VIP member. This isn't the aftermath of this episode. We've got another episode coming up before this one lands. But this was just after we recorded we released the Paul F. Tompkins episode where he did KFC and we mentioned Tamo Shantar's Tamo Shantar's tweeted at us and then.
Starting point is 01:21:47 But that means they're listening, right? I guess they're listening or at least aware of somebody. Somebody is who's associated with. Yeah, I like Tamo Shantar. I love to I love Tamo Shantar's. I'd like still Disney's favorite restaurant. I know it's great. It's a great it's a great spot.
Starting point is 01:22:00 There's a Disney table and you can't be VIP, my man. Yeah, and yeah, well, don't be actually sad. No, it's fine. What the fuck is wrong with you? They were doing a bit. They were they were they were playing along. Anyway, God, so we got so I think then skinned Jesus. We've I just I'd like to be a VIP member.
Starting point is 01:22:18 So I hope we make that happen. Anyway, so VIP member entails, but I want to be one too. It's literally all you have to do is fill out a thing and you get you and you become a VIP member. Well, I hope we can make it happen. Oh, my God. So we got a we got the shaky special. We got the pepperoni.
Starting point is 01:22:33 We got the golden fried chicken and the mojo potatoes. It was all landed at once in a in a in a big big heap. And I guess let's just let's start with a pizza. I like shaky's pizza. This was a thing. You know, when I was in college, this was and I think we were we were rare customers who would get this get shakies delivered because it's almost always a dine in experience.
Starting point is 01:22:54 But we were at the UCLA dorms. There was a shakies nearby. It was the closest pizzeria. And so we would get shakies delivered there. That seems weird to me. But I get that it's weird. Yeah. But I think it's definitely like if you compare it to something like Chuck E. Cheese's, it's a much higher quality of pizza
Starting point is 01:23:07 than Chuck E. Cheese. I think it's actually pretty decent pizza. Chuck E. Cheese sucks. Yeah. Chuck E. Cheese sucks. This is like very this sounds this sounds like I'm I'm putting it down by saying it, but this is like very edible. It's like very like good, like standard, like we got the pan style just just like just like right down the middle solid pizza.
Starting point is 01:23:25 I like the shaky special quite a bit more than just like that regular pepperoni. I think it's it's fun to get a bunch of different toppings there. So I mean, I'd steer you in that direction. What do you guys think of that? Zah. Kyle. Yeah, I thought it was tasty. And yeah, I really liked and I mean this with no braggadocia, but the shaky special was special.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah, you were right. And I did that, you know, I dipped it a lot of my bites and ranch. And it's just got a good spongy texture to it, I guess. Really kind of absorb that. And I thought it was really tasty. I feel like in I feel like it reminded me a lot of of the kind of like the it's similar to the Pizza Hut pan pizza. Right. My one issue with it today was that it didn't feel like it was like almost like
Starting point is 01:24:13 like like we got like it took that like it felt like it was ready and it sat for five to ten minutes or something. I think that's entirely possible. I think it's it's totally possible that they were waiting on the chicken or they're waiting on the potatoes in the deep fryer. And that was sitting under a heat lamp for a lot of a lot of well, at least multiple false calls where where we I assumed at least that that food being delivered was going to be our food and then it was not.
Starting point is 01:24:38 It was like it looked like a guy was walking by with the guy. I always look equally like as clueless, not in a bad way. He like, look, he just is like looking all around. And I mentioned this at the time, like there's nothing that makes me more nervous than just the idea of like I'm not my number is not going to be spotted and I'm going to be here forever. There there needs to be. I agree with you, because that is like anxiety inducing.
Starting point is 01:25:01 And it like, like, Nick, you at one point, if you remember this, Cali, you almost held up our number for I thought the guy was carrying our pizza. I know, and it wasn't I would look like a real idiot. Yeah, you held up the number. But that is I mean, I'm not trying to make fun of you. I'm like, I understand that. It's I think it's I think it causes anxiety. I think I think there's got to be some sort of better system now, right?
Starting point is 01:25:22 Can we get beyond this number system? I've I've been to Mendocino Farms, which is a local chain in LA that has, you know, salads and sandwiches, and they have a system at some of them where they will give you a pager that has a geolocator on it. And so you set that on your table and then they will just bring it directly to that table. And that seems like very fancy and new fangled. But I like it quite a bit because it tones down that anxiety.
Starting point is 01:25:44 They just make a beeline right for you. Also, I you would hope that the person who took our order at the register could maybe inform the the server, the person who's bringing our food. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm pretty sure they got, you know, right? Right. Right. There weren't there weren't enough people in the restaurant to make it as difficult as it seems for them.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Yeah, put the food in the right place. Yeah, the guy the guy was did seem to be kind of lost and wandering around. But I think that maybe our pizza suffered because of I think it maybe felt like it sat out a little bit. Sure, which is weird because we ordered it fresh. That being said, it was very good. And I love kind of that that pan kind of buttery crust. I love I love I loved the crust.
Starting point is 01:26:29 It was it was it was a real star in it. And it was good. It tasted good. It was it was it was good for and it is weird to me because I did expect kind of more. I've only been to shakeies a couple of times and I remember being like, oh, it's OK or whatever. But I didn't have strong memories of it. And then I was like, oh, this is like much, much better than a Chuck E. Cheese. Like it like it's not it's definitely not like high quality, high end pizza or whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:54 And it like but it's but it's it's a better quality. It's a way better quality than Chuck E. Cheese. In terms of the pepperoni, is it fair to say like I and maybe you guys knew this going into it, but you didn't you don't really see the shapes of the pepperoni on the outside of it. Right. Yeah. And that to me almost played a part in it in a weird way. It was like almost like a, you know, yeah, it was like a deep dish style pizza
Starting point is 01:27:15 where it was like most of it was underneath the cheese. Yeah. I liked it. You liked it. I liked that kind of. I wish I could. I would have liked to have been able to see it more. Maybe something about like visualizing it brings the taste more of the forefront. But it is sometimes when those pepperonis are on top of the cheese, the good thing is sometimes they get that that little bit of a char on them.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Yeah. A bit of Christmas and that can be fun. Do you know what, though? I think I think you're right. I think that putting it under maybe masks the pepperoni a little bit. Right. Which I'm OK with because I don't like like an overly meaty taste. I just like to have the flavor of it. But but the pizza was pretty good.
Starting point is 01:27:50 I like their pizza. But I will say this. I thought the fried chicken was also pretty good. Yeah. I'm a I'm a fan of the shakies fried chicken and also to I'm just a fan of the concept of we've got pizza and we also got fried chicken. You know, a lot of pizza places have wings. But man, how about some fried chicken? That's a great thing to throw in there fried chicken because I almost called you
Starting point is 01:28:06 out on this because you were like, we should do the fried chicken. That's what they're known for. Yeah. And I was like, is this is why you're wanting to get some fried chicken? No, they're well, look, I did want to get some fried chicken. But I will say that they're the classic shakies is the pizza, the fried chicken and the mojo potatoes. I feel like that's what people that people know of as kind of the lineup. OK. So yeah, I think they're they're more known for pizza.
Starting point is 01:28:26 But fried chicken is definitely one of the fried chicken was like was was juicy. Yeah, it was like it was like it was of it was a decent quality fried chicken. Very battery, lots of batter, a lot of batter. There was a lot of batter on there. But I was OK. But it wasn't like it was like the batter wasn't good or you know, like we had a leftover leftover piece of like the big chicken breast. Batter up, I say. There was a lot of I had a lot of an internal debate about what we were going
Starting point is 01:28:48 to do with that last piece, because I kept on even even after you guys had said, you weren't going to eat any of it. I was like, maybe I should just take like a big bite out of it. Yeah, I had like enough enough room room my stomach where I was like, I could stuff like some more little things in my mouth right now. Right. We decided to give it to you, song you song. How was that chicken? I haven't had it yet.
Starting point is 01:29:06 OK, you say has a big piece. That was the largest piece of it was the breast. Yeah, we had the breast left. You saw you're familiar with fried chicken for crying. Am I allowed, right? Yes. All right, good. He knows fried chicken.
Starting point is 01:29:18 You never know what these millennials. Yeah, I know. I agree. Now, Nick, I think you had a good, a good hashtag for because when it comes to fried chicken, are you do do you like overly battered? Are you are you like just a little batter? Mm hmm. Are you so batter up hashtag batter up or hashtag?
Starting point is 01:29:37 What I'll just give me a fist bump. I'm very excited for very hashtag. A strike, a strike, hashtag, you're out. Oh, my God, hashtag, you're out if you don't like if you don't like too much batter, right? I think I think this was over. I feel like a lot of fried chicken that you got that's overly battered is bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:59 And and I and I but I but I felt like this was like juicy. It's a right balance. It was it was a good it was good for for an overly battered fried chicken. It was definitely like I don't know if you guys caught it. But towards the end of the meal, while I was looking for just little things to put in my body, I took one of those. Just a just a piece of fried fried bread, bread, whatever that is. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:30:22 Just like a little nugget that had probably no chicken in it and popped it in and I enjoyed that part too. Yeah. It's like a little guy, a little leftover guy. Right. The straight there because it's so much better. I feel like just like little nuggets fall off of it. Yeah, you got to have these nuggets.
Starting point is 01:30:37 You got to eat the little crisp nuggets. They were good. They were good. I saw so with those two, you know, like, was it bad that it was all served at once? I don't know. I think it's I think it's part of the experience. Yeah, but I would have I would have probably rather they just bring out each element as it's ready.
Starting point is 01:30:52 But I think that's how they do it there. Yeah, it could have been it could have been it could have been a little more enjoyable if it was staggered. And then we got the featured side, the mojo potatoes, which I like for me, dipping those in ranch, that was like that was my favorite part about getting shakies when I was younger is that that it's just like kind of it's a very distinct kind of kind of potato. It's a very it's very different from your standard fries.
Starting point is 01:31:13 And like the disc form factor is a lot of fun. The batter that's on them is, you know, a little bit different than it's more like a curly fry or a or criss-cut fry. I like that. I like the mojo potatoes. I like them. I got to say this, though. Yeah, I thought they were the weakest of the meal.
Starting point is 01:31:28 That's fair. I think there's kind of like a pop out to center field, Nick. Wow, to keep that baseball analogy going. I feel like so. You say the pizza is like a ground rules double. Yep. The the the fried chicken was also a ground rules double. It's a hit by a pitch hit by a pitch.
Starting point is 01:31:46 But then the guy scores. Okay. And then what would you would you break the salad bar as the salad bar is a it's a walk based on balls, based on balls, but they let him go to second. Okay. Wait, they also they also let him go to second. Does that happen in baseball? They just let him go to second base.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Sometimes it does. It's very like it was a particularly bad walk. So we're going to give you an extra base. Yeah, it's it's rare where like, like someone throws someone like it's like such a bad walk that you can have second base if you want. Right. And then that pitcher of beer. Oh, that's a home run.
Starting point is 01:32:20 That was a double right. Am I right? That's a home run. My man. Yeah, I want to keep drinking it. We left some on the table, sadly. Yeah, you should have given it to those kids. The ones that you couldn't get the tickets to.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Hey, here you go. Here's my issue with the mojo. Yeah. I enjoyed them and I feel like I probably I may have eaten the most out of any of us. I don't know of the mojos. I don't know that they warrant such a colorful name. Sure.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Yeah. Because like a lot of the shaky's branding at the restaurant and on the website is about plus our famous mojos. Yeah, well, they're not there's to me, they're not so special. They're not so special. Yeah, and especially because they're not so they're not that special. They don't have any particular branding for their pizza or their chicken. It's just it's just pizza and fried chicken.
Starting point is 01:33:09 So yeah, to have the mojo potatoes have their own little name is kind of weird. I get the point. It's a fair point. Yeah. Who's ordering the mojos alone? Anyone do you think? I don't think so. I think they I think they just come as part of the package.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I wonder if these were also like the best the mojos can be. I mean, you guys have had them before. I don't know. They're about par for the course. Yeah. I've had better versions.
Starting point is 01:33:33 I didn't even I didn't look too much at that. Is there like a do you guys ever make menu suggestions? Because I feel like if there's not, there should be like a kind of nacho style mojos. Oh, yeah, that would be good. That is actually it's a great idea. They because they kind of wouldn't I feel like the cheese would kind of help. They they're a little bit like dry.
Starting point is 01:33:52 They're a little dry unless you dip them in that ranch. Yeah, I feel like the ranch is like needed. Right. It's an essential component to it. Yeah. So have you put and they know and the servers know that they asked if we wanted more ran they I think they are well aware that people want ran. They saw we had two cups of ranch and they were like, I'll bring you some more
Starting point is 01:34:07 ranch. They knew that was going to be insufficient. There's nothing worse than a dry mouth when you get the dry food going on a dry when it's that's the worst. Am I right? It's the it's one of the worst experiences I think you can have while you're having a meal, get that dry mouth short of, you know, some sort of allergy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Or a bug or a bug in your mail. That's that's that is a true nightmare. Boy, you get that bug in your dry mouth and you're allergic to it. Come, come, come, come as a nightmare. Bug come is pretty bad too. And come goes in your mouth and just cranks it. You ever it's a load. You're eating a salad.
Starting point is 01:34:43 You put a fork in your mouth and you say, I just put a cockroach in my mouth. It's so dry. I can feel the cockroach in my mouth and then you feel it come in your mouth. Little cockroach. Here you go. Like. You realize that its whole plan was to get in there. It gets off on getting in there.
Starting point is 01:35:01 That's sick. Fuck. Yeah, but then you got to let him go because of his spirit. You're like, all right, well, you went for it. You got me on that one. And then you gently release it onto the table and let it go free. Is that what you're talking about? No comment.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Let's get to our final thoughts on shaky. So Kyle, this is how this will work. We'll go around the table and we'll sort of give our closing argument on this chain based on a lifetime experience dining there and then give it a fork ranking from one to five forks. Wait, can you say that again from the beginning? Yeah, we'll give like a close, we'll give like a closing argument. So sort of say your summation of all of your thoughts of this experience and any
Starting point is 01:35:38 previous experiences and then give it a fork ranking from one to five forks. We can start with you. Can I ask? I'm so sorry. Yeah, that's fine. Are we, we're taking everything into account. Everything into account. Yeah, the entire experience.
Starting point is 01:35:49 And also to any, any times you eat in there in the past, great, you can weigh those as well out of four, five forks out of four, four out of five forks. But yeah, four, four fried fried chicken is your number one. Yes. That's not true, though, because then you later said it was burgers. I put burgers on top, but it might go with fried chicken. Here's what I got to say. I was excited to go to shaky's.
Starting point is 01:36:15 I've been looking forward to it all week. It's a fun spot. And, and I was, and I was definitely ready to play some video games. When I got there before Mitch arrived, I was, I guess I'd forgotten that it was these video games are all based around getting tickets and getting prizes. And the only thing I don't like about that is that like these, the prizes in these little counters are often bad or overpriced and, and I, and trash. Well, that being said, that has nothing to do with the food.
Starting point is 01:36:51 I think I, I generally really liked the food. I was nervous to take you guys there because I didn't know how you would respond. But I felt like it came through. The pizza is what was really, I don't know. It's like fun tasting. Yes. And I wish I, I wish I had a more thorough or academic. Conclusion here or something, something of note to say, but as we've said,
Starting point is 01:37:25 the Bud Light was great. I'm just, I'm going to, I'm going to say three and a half forks. Three and a half forks. That's a great score. That's a great score. Go ahead, Mitch. I, the shaky's, and I've been a couple of times before, I love, I think fun is the right, here's, here's, I'll make one critique of shaky's in just a second.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Because shake, this shaky's, by the way, is on Sunset Boulevard. Sunset can be kind of seedy. It can be a place that's like not, like, isn't great. There's bad parts of Sunset Boulevard. There's, and, and it, and you can be like, like a lot of the times it's like, oh, like a restaurant on Sunset Boulevard, if it's in the wrong spot. Right. It's kind of shady.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Not to mention Studio 60's on it. Studio 60's on the Sunset Strip. Yeah, you can, you, I mean, you got to look out for that. Man, Albie might be hanging out our front. No one to miss Albie. I didn't see him in shaky's, but he could, he could have been there on a lunch break, scouting talent, looking over crazy Christians and trying to figure out how to make it work.
Starting point is 01:38:29 I, but I think what a disservice to shaky's is, is that I think the outsides of shaky's are unappealing. They don't look good on the outside. I think the insides are fun. And I agree with you. Like I love the idea of this like beer parlor and it reminds me of, of, of, uh, it reminds me of Pizza Hut and all the right ways of like, and even more so, there's that the, like the arcade section isn't like too overdone, but
Starting point is 01:38:55 it's just fun enough and it's separated from where everything else. There's a fun buffet and there's a little bar and, and, and then like all the, I like all the seating and all the stuff on the walls. It's like done very, very well. And the food is decent. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's, it's actually, it's, the food is good. And, and like I was, I was surprised by that, but I think there is so much of a disservice in it, kind of looking shitty from the outside.
Starting point is 01:39:21 Um, and can I, can I jump in? I just, I just agree just because I think what you don't like, I like, because to me it feels like a place, a little league baseball team would have gone in 1986. And I, and I, I agree with that. I guess my, my, my point of it is more like, I feel like people are going to look at it and think it's unappealing. Like, like people who don't know it as well are going to be like, shaky's like, it kind of like, and, and I love the fact that they put your name up on, on
Starting point is 01:39:50 there and everything too. It just looks very like we went to a bad version of this just a week ago. We went to hometown buffet and that like looks very plain on the outside. And you get inside and it sucks. Shakies is the opposite. You go inside, it is fun. It's a fun place. The food is fun.
Starting point is 01:40:06 I agree with you. It is all about fun, but, but, but I feel like for, for a lot of people. It might be just off-putting or something. I understand that. Um, that being said, I had a lot of fun. I liked the food and it's so much in like, in my mind, after going here, I'm like, I would go to shaky if like, I have like a group of friends that were like going out for beer and pizza or something.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Like maybe I'm going to go to, I think I would, I would go back to shaky's. I have, it's, it's, it's, it's, it is, it's fun. It is also like, we went there at lunch. I do feel like there's an argument to be made for the like nine PM style, like with, yeah, as you're saying, like a pictures of beer with your pals is yeah, could sort of dictate the experience. It's the closest thing to like the pizza hut buffet. I feel like for sure to sit down restaurant that there is left for us out
Starting point is 01:40:52 here and I'm going to go same exact score, three and a half forks. I'm, I'm with you guys. Uh, I had a very positive experience today. I've had a lot of fun at Shaggy's in the past. Lunch buffet is a great value as we touched on. I really like the style. I like that how frozen in time it is. I think I said more with, with Kyle than with Mitch on this, referring to the
Starting point is 01:41:14 exterior, I kind of liked just how characteristic and how immediately identifiable it is from the outside, cause they all look so uniform. I love the sign outside. I, man, I was just, Natalie, my wife, Natalie, uh, gave me the, she, she said, and we, I didn't have enough notice to make this happen, but she said, you should have called up the shake using gotten happy birthday, Mitch put on the outside. Or it's Kyle's birthday coming up. Is it?
Starting point is 01:41:35 Oh, it's your birthday. I should have done that. I should have done a happy birthday. I think I, I, and I, I feel he's immediately doesn't want it, didn't have enough lead time to make that happen. But I think that would have been a lot of fun. If we'd gotten there and it had said that, I think that would have been great. Welcome.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Doe boy, welcome. Oh my God. I would have been over the moon if it said, welcome. Doe boys, but then I would have, I would have been afraid they'd roll out the red experience. Yeah. They roll out the red carpet for us and we, we wouldn't get an authentic, uh, dining experience.
Starting point is 01:41:59 But in any event, yeah, they really, I'm sure if they put our name up there, they really would have been so nice to us, but a huge difference. You assholes made us put your names up there. It's a hundred and four degrees out of degrees. We had to take down like Maria's birthday wishes, four year old girls in two, in tears, um, in any event. So we, uh, I had a great time today. I think it's a great place for families, great place for kids and adults.
Starting point is 01:42:25 I think the food is very solid. I think it gets the job done. Shakies accomplishes what it's trying to do. And you know what, bring back the old school pizza parlor experience. That's a thing that I think it's time to, to resuscitate. We've had enough delivery pizza to go pizza. Yeah. Pizza is a great to go food, but man, eating at a parlor with your pals,
Starting point is 01:42:44 having some brew dogs. That's what it's all about. I'd like to see more. I'd like to see a, a resurgence of this trend. I'd like to see the gastropub equivalent of the pizza parlor start to pop up. It's not going to happen. But yeah, but it would be great if it did. But any event, I'm going to, I'm going to join the hand holding club with you
Starting point is 01:42:58 guys, three and a half forks for shakies. A lot of fun. Wow. Three and a half for, is that an other or not? We're getting, yeah, we're going to knock and see what's going on. Well, someone, someone's outside. Oh, he just grabbed you by the shirt. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:43:10 The song is gone. You song is getting roughed up. Well, you song is outside now. Wait, hold on. I can see through. I can just see through the crack in your door. It's Rod Serling. He's giving him the third degree for not knowing who he was.
Starting point is 01:43:23 How is this for an ending? You song, now he's slapping at you song. Right. Now I guess you song is also now heading to hell. So, well, maybe you should have learned a thing or two of Rod Serling. Um, all right. Well, that was a bad for shaky, not bad for a nice outing by shaky.
Starting point is 01:43:39 I had a great time. Hey, that was our review of shakies. It's time for a regular segment. The balcony is open for a mashup of cuisine and cinema. This is dinner and a movie. Kyle just gave me. Oh my God. All right.
Starting point is 01:44:06 So that was Siskel and Ebert's song. Man, I love that song. Some great sex work in that one. Do you think either of them ever made love and put that song on? To each other, to each other is the question. I'm sure at some point, yeah. It is kind of like a sexy. Get your mind out of the gutter for once, Mitch.
Starting point is 01:44:28 It is a very sexy song. I love the heyday of the Saxon Rock. Yeah, but it also sounds like it could have been the theme song to Night Court or something. It doesn't seem very different than anything of that. Well, that was like that 1980s era. And I don't know if it was it was derivative of like Bruce Springsteen and Baker Street or maybe just sort of Jazz Fusion of the 70s.
Starting point is 01:44:50 But there's a lot of Saxon Rock back then. It was a big thing. I like it. Very cool. Bring it back. All right. So here's what we're going to do. We've got it as of this recording, the movie It directed by Andy Muschetti.
Starting point is 01:45:04 I think I'm saying that right. It would have just been in theaters this past weekend. Now, we've just we've discussed what we'll know at this point, I guess, whether it will be shit or if it will be a hit. Yeah, I have discussed this together. Is it going to be an H in front of it or an SH? Yes, TBD. I think I love the movie Mama.
Starting point is 01:45:22 I thought I thought it was a mama. I forget I don't know how it shouldn't. I it doesn't help that I said it more like a child, but I thought he did a good job with mama. Yeah, that director, but the guy who did a true detective was supposed to direct this. He dropped out. Terry Fugunaga still has a screenplay credit.
Starting point is 01:45:39 Uh-huh. I don't know. I'm cautiously optimistic for it. Yeah, we'll probably both have seen it by this point, but OK. Clowns try it like because because Tim Curry is the original Pennywise and he like from the TV series, from the TV, from the miniseries. Yeah. And he and he does such a great job.
Starting point is 01:45:55 And this clown seems to be like trying to be too evil to me, but I don't know. Maybe maybe it will be good. I will see what happens. We'll see. We'll see. So Kyle, here's how this will work. We're going to try to figure out the perfect dinner to pair with this movie. If you're going to say, take a lady friend, make it into an evening.
Starting point is 01:46:13 So Mitch, uh, or just your friend or just your buddy or just your pal. Yeah. Get your mind out of the gutter. Um, uh, Kyle was giving me a look of like, what the fuck is this segment as it started? Um, we've done this, I think maybe twice before, right? A couple of times. Yeah, twice.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Um, yeah, exactly twice. Can I, should I start off? Yeah. When you start off, then I'll go and then we can do that. Okay. Are you, are you going to say like the, are you going to lay out the whole meal or are we going to pitch over time or like everybody gets their own. I'm going to, I'm going to, we can each throw out like, uh, like, uh, like the main
Starting point is 01:46:48 course, I'm going to, I'm going to start with the appetizer and then you and Nick can decide between, I think I'm going to be fucking awful at this. Okay. Uh, then Nick and I are going to, uh, you or Nick can decide between dessert and, uh, we, we will all help each other. We'll go piece by piece. And well, yeah, so I'm going to tell you this out there. Um, it is infamous for its big child orgy scene towards the end of the book.
Starting point is 01:47:13 So my first huge left turn, people say a big left turn. This is, this is true, by the way, like there really is read the book. There's, there's like, there's like a weirdly there's like, they're running away from it. And then they're like, I know a way to like stop this. And they're like, let's all like fuck each other. And they all like fuck each other in the sewers or whatever. This is just me paraphrasing and doing a bad job of it.
Starting point is 01:47:35 But I think that's, I think that's verbatim with the Texas. But that's, that's, that's basically in the book. So for me, we're going to start off the meal with some, with the famous aphrodisiac, some oysters on the half shell, aphrodisiac, yeah, because that scene gets people horny. No, they were horny because those kids were horny. So we're going to start with an aphrodisiac. All right, I'll give you that something that will, something that could cause
Starting point is 01:48:01 an orgy, a bunch of, uh, oysters on the half shell. Right. Yeah, how good or bad is this meal supposed to be? Is, are we genuinely trying to let? Cause oysters can be very, they can be good, silly. Are we supposed, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think we're, I think we can have some fun. We can mess around, we can have some fun with it.
Starting point is 01:48:22 But I think we'd like to have a, it'd be a good meal. Yeah. And you know what? There'd be a peanut, minnet sauce. So I'm always going to say something that's fucking peanuts. Oh, that's, you still can. I didn't mean to take away, you still tell me about the sauce. I don't know about the sauce.
Starting point is 01:48:35 It's a mini net sauce with just a little bit of peanuts in there. And then you, you can toss it on the oysters and then you get, you swallow it down. You also get a crunch if you want the crunch. Now, I just want to clarify this minnet sauce. You don't mean Kevin, Stuart and Bob are going to be involved. Groups, helpers. You think that I was grow? Well, what type of, what, what do you think the, what, what were you
Starting point is 01:48:56 implying that they made the minnet sauce? Well, that maybe that, yeah, they, maybe they, they made it a bit of Tom Fulery or maybe, yeah, they were processed in a giant oversized blender. Do minions have any, do minions have any like a, do minions have genitals or anything like that or no, we haven't seen a, a, a minion, I know we haven't seen the minions naked. So we don't have a canonical answer on that. Do you have, but they have, they say they have butts.
Starting point is 01:49:20 Yeah. They eat. So I assume they have functional organs and digestive tracts, but they also seem to be immortal. So we don't know what rules of nature apply to them. Fair. Um, okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:49:30 So, so in the it, there is in the it world, there is the thing. I've seen this in the trailer. They say you'll float to, right? You'll float to. I'm going to offer up a beverage here, a classic root beer float. Oh, that's fun. So we got, we got, I also, by the way, you don't, it doesn't have to be a pun. It can be anything you want that cause you think you'd like, or something scary.
Starting point is 01:49:55 You know what I know. So, oh, I, I know so little about the book or I've never, I never saw the mini series and I'm not seeing the trailer for the movie. There's a scary clown. I know there's a, I know, I know of Penny wise. So I guess my pitch and, and I forgive me because you definitely did not tell me we were doing this segment. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:50:19 I've got a pitch for a dessert, but are we there yet? Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, throw it on dessert. Yeah. Uh, I'm thinking, um, ice cream sandwiches made from, uh, what are those, you know, the circus animal cookies? Oh yeah. Yes. So those are, those are the, the breading.
Starting point is 01:50:41 And then we put ice cream in between those. That's perfect. That's perfect. This is, this is, that's actually maybe one of the best answers anyone's ever given on this. No, it's not even that good. It's, it's, it's good. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:50:56 It's perfect. Animal cracker ice cream sandwich. That sounds great. Some place you just, what type, what type of ice cream flavor would you want in there? You tell me, like, I, I, I, uh, I think different types. I would say like a mint chocolate chip would be one of them for me. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:14 Hey, can I, I got a, I got a pitch. Can we put some marshmallow on here somewhere since it's a clown? Sure. Yeah. Why not? Little marshmallow cream. Yeah. That sounds fun.
Starting point is 01:51:24 And then queso and also some queso. Hey, you know what guys, it's a long movie. How about a short meal? I think we got enough. Some oysters, a root beer flow. What ends up ice cream? The balcony is closed. No, that's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:51:46 That's bullshit. Now I'm realizing the animal crackers are terrible. We're ice cream sandwiches with the root beer float. You're having multiple. No, that's a lot of dairy, plus some shellfish. Yeah. Yeah, dairy and shellfish. I was going to say, couldn't we have like a, like it's Tim Curry.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Maybe we could have a curry. That's a good idea. Yeah. How about a peanut curry chicken? Well, you're going crazy for peanuts. Because clowns do clowns like, you know, they're in your peanuts. Serious peanuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Yeah. Yeah, see? Yeah, that's good. Clown fish. Do people eat that? Oh, that's good. Actually, like, like, like, like, like, like Nemo. Yeah, that's a strange.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I was thinking Dory, but it's not Dory. It's Nemo. A curried peanut clown fish with Nemo. I mean, that is horrific for children. Her going to be being terrified by a clown. They'd be terrified by their favorite, the dead character from their favorite film, but I'm telling you, if there's a good shot, maybe they could make, I think they could make that pretty good.
Starting point is 01:52:41 They could make that work. All right, great. We got, we got this all solved. Kyle, are you happy that we sprung this? I'm still trying to think of some now. If you think of anything else, you can just throw them out later in the show. That was dinner in a movie, just like a restaurant, about your feedback. Let's put it on the feedback.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Hit us up if you think it's going to be a hit or shit. Why, it's already out at this point. Hit us up if you think that if it was a hit or it was shit. Hashtag, hit and hashtag shit. Well, maybe like Stephen King, prawns. Is that? Yeah, sure. King prawns.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Is that a thing? I think King prawns are a thing. Am I making that up? King. There's King crab. It sounds like a thing. Stephen King crab. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:53:23 I feel like I've heard of King prawns. I feel like I've heard of some sort of jumbo prawns. I think they're called. There's also called King, King prawns. But then also there's like a prawns and crab. Both could you can make good Thai food with both of those. OK, which with the peanuts. I think that that's kind of the route we would go.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Right. And probably there's an adult character in the movie who wears a tie. So that justifies that. Who's playing Pennywise? I'm not sure. Who is it? Oh, I don't know. That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:53:50 I don't know. I think it's the band Pennywise. There's multiple Pennywises. They got them all. They just they just trade off scene to scene. It's like that Bob Dylan movie. All right, just like a restaurant about your feedback. Let's go to the feedback.
Starting point is 01:54:02 Today's email comes from Carolina Portella. Carolina writes a while back. Nick mentioned that lunch is an important social work for bonding. I've just started my first office job out of college and as a socially awkward weirdo, I've been eating lunch at my desk or wandering the streets until lunch is over instead of going to the communal eating space. As socially awkward men,
Starting point is 01:54:18 do you have any tips for making lunch plans with your co-workers? Any favorite places to have work lunch? Um. Huh. Kyle, I mean, you aside from your current job and any thoughts on previous jobs and any places you've worked, what is your what is your lunchtime dining plan in the workplace? The I'm I'm I'm always barely paying attention.
Starting point is 01:54:41 Generally, that's the question is where like where should I eat? Basically, she's just wondering. Yes, she's she's looking for tips in terms of she feels awkward at the office. She wants to maybe eat with co-workers. She doesn't know how to initiate that. She's just looking for some workplace lunch assistance. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 01:54:57 She wants a place to go. Yeah. And ways to do it. In the office or outside of the office? It sounds like either. I mean, she's talking about she either she's either or returned to it, been eating lunch at my desk or wandering the streets until lunch is over so she can go outside. She suggests she says there's a communal eating space that she doesn't go to.
Starting point is 01:55:16 What's her name? Carolina. Carolina, you're going to go. You're going to you're going to talk to your co-workers and then find a lunch buddy. Yeah, you just got to kind of sit down at some point. I'm a socially awkward person. I have hard time with this, too. I've eaten plenty of lunches alone.
Starting point is 01:55:30 But you get it. You get it. You get to talk to somebody. You know, you're at a job. You're going to find someone there that you like. Or, you know, maybe you have a friend who works nearby that you can that you can go with, too. Yeah, it sounds like that because I wonder what the dynamic here is. This makes me think that I wonder if she works in a in like a call center or
Starting point is 01:55:45 something where she's maybe not having a lot of interaction with their with their fellow employees during the day. She's more maybe more interacting with customers. But I feel like you would like whoever you have you talk to during the day, whoever you you you pass the time with, you know, BS and to get through the work day. Those those are people you can go to lunch with. And maybe you suggest maybe, you know, one one fun thing to do suggest a spot or ask someone who is more familiar with the the the the general environment
Starting point is 01:56:12 that the general neighborhood to suggest a spot for a fun Friday out lunch. A little excursion. Yeah, that's good. Get a get a whole office crew going. Maybe to Shakies. Maybe everyone's going to go to Shakies. Yeah, I definitely like I think it's helpful to make it an event. As you're saying, like if it's like Tonko Tuesdays or whatever it is, like it's like we all know everybody's going to go to El Torrito on Tuesday or whatever.
Starting point is 01:56:36 But you were saying like on your Sunday days when you try to have a crew go out. Yeah, I think that's what you're going to do. If it is very hard for you, what do you do if you have to eat a lunch alone? Well, I was going to say, if if you just don't want to like cold introduce yourself to these persons that maybe you don't get to interact with much during the day or you're just fearful about intruding on their time or space, there is always the route where you just start regularly eating at a place around the office and build a rapport with the persons who work there or regularly eat there.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Yeah, you can always call in for assistance. People who are nearby or if you if you've got to eat lunch alone, Nick, what do you usually do? I usually take it to go out and I eat at my desk. But if you're if you're going to go out, there's there's there's some freedom in that too. Yeah, like I think over time you're more OK with like going to a restaurant and eating alone. I think for a while I I didn't like doing that and I would do like places like Subway or something. I do that's I do it so much.
Starting point is 01:57:37 If anything, the only thing I don't like about the experience of eating alone is just the way sometimes the employees look at you or interact with you because they it's weird to them that somebody would want to be eating alone or get to be going to drink alone or something like that. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. The perception of others is is, yeah, I think maybe that can make me self conscious. But I do like to eat alone at a workplace, especially if like I've had a day where like there's like a lot of meetings or something and just want a little time to myself.
Starting point is 01:58:08 I don't like to eat at my desk. I always like to try to get away from my desk, even if it's just going outside to like sit in a little, you know, little patio table or something, just to get a little fresh air and just to get out of that environment. I feel like I'm tethered to for the rest of the day. But yeah, but you got to you got to meet these. You got to make some friends. And the best part that's one of the best parts about having a job
Starting point is 01:58:27 is just talking shit about other people at the job. Right. You get that. So important. It's the office gossip. It's fun. And you know, if you can't do that, if you truly can't do that, if you have these social issues, here's what I would say. Find your spot in like, because I go to the sidewalk cafe down the street here, sidewalk, grill and a sidewalk or whatever. And I go down there and I and I go there so often because it's healthy
Starting point is 01:58:54 and it's like and I will get salads or whatever or like salmon. And I just go there enough like that will be like my lunch during the week that they're just like, we know the weird guy now. And I love that. I love that. And then you can get to the place where they're like, you want the regular Mitch? Yeah, exactly. Which is like, for some reason, such a massive ego boost to you.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Like, I thought when you can walk into a bar and they like have your drink ready or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So just pick a pick a good spot and then just go with it. Just the irregular. Yeah. Yep. I hope that was some help, Carolina. But yeah, without knowing exactly what your workplace situation is, I think we all we can really offer is general guidance. But but good luck. I think you'll figure it out.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Have you ever questioned or commented about the word of chain restaurants? You know, I'll send you emails at Doe Boys podcast at gmail.com to get the Doe Boys double or weekly bonus episode. Subscribe at patreon.com. Nick slash Doe Boys. One last piece of mail opening before we end it. Oh, hell yeah. You're not going to open up the liquid one.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Would you want to? All right. Let's open it up. Yeah, let's see what happens. I just was afraid to open it because it's like it seems hard to open up. You're using a Phillips screwdriver, which seems like a very clumsy way to open it. But look at that. It kind of works, Nick. So this box is about the size of like what, two VHS cassette tapes?
Starting point is 02:00:06 Yeah, I think I think I think it could be something for the show is what I think. Oh, you think so? I think it is. You think this is from maybe a fan who got your home address? Yeah, probably. OK. Is that something you guys do? I'm fine with it. Yeah, Mitch just, Mitch just reads his home address out sometimes on the show. They almost already know where I live anyway. Right.
Starting point is 02:00:27 So you think we can edit out how long it takes me to do this? I mean, no, I think we should keep in this full struggle so people kind of can experience it along with us. Week I am. No, you're not weak. It's it's a I mean, there's a lot of tape on that box. But yeah, OK, Mitch is opening it up now. He's worked his way through the thick layer of tape. You know, I think a lot of I've noticed versus UPS employees
Starting point is 02:00:47 when like a civilian puts together their own piece of mail, their own parcel. He's shaking his head like he's unhappy. Yeah. What is the what's the emotion you're feeling right now, Mitch? I don't I don't know what this is. I can't get it open. I do feel like regular people to the point regular people put on a little too much. A little too much tape. Mitch just gave us the the the cutoff sign like he's not going to go through with this. I'm not going to go through with it.
Starting point is 02:01:12 What's in there? Just like a bunch of lube. Is that Mitch? Is that your your jackoff supply? I think I think it might be my jackoff supply. Oh, boy. You should check the return address before you started to open it. All right. Well, then, I guess we'll just leave our audience in suspense. Well, we'll tell them what it is next. I honestly truly am afraid of what it is.
Starting point is 02:01:32 Let's let's what is the I don't understand. Does that mean you have an idea of what it is? Yes. Why don't you just open it up? And if we if this isn't if it's something you don't want to talk about, you set it out. No, God, are you in front? Are you or do we make you nervous? Maybe maybe I don't know what I think it might be something for my mom's friend. We'll let you open it in the other room.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Well, maybe reveal it on a future episode. Yes. For now, it'll be like JJ's mystery box mystery box. This is the Dope Boys mystery. I think it's for my mom. Yes. Yes. It's all it's all it's all fine. It's on the table. It's not lube. Right. Yes. All right. Well, but it might be weird.
Starting point is 02:02:08 I want to I think it might be weird stuff. Well, people will just have to find out. All right. If you have a question, I don't know what the wait. I already read all this copy. Kyle Mooney, thank you so much for joining us. You guys had a great time. Oh, what a what a who. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:21 My mom's friend is a little loopy and she sometimes sends weird things like as gifts, but they're weird things. Why don't you keep opening it up? Kyle, do you have anything you want to plug in the interim? Yeah, it brings me there. I imagine it'll be on iTunes at some point. And then I don't know what other outlets it becomes streamable. But please check it out if you haven't seen that movie.
Starting point is 02:02:47 And I think Mitch now sees what what it is. It's it looks like it's wrapped in some sort of napkin or something. Is that the only thing that was in that big box? No, there's there's some sort of there's some there's some other stuff in here. You're being so cagey about this because it's it is weird. It's weird stuff. All right. How weird? I don't it's your mom's friend.
Starting point is 02:03:08 How weird can it be? I thought this was marijuana for a moment. It looks like weed. Yes, we're going to pass it this way. Is it like that looks like the kind or something like that? It might be popery. Oh, I hope it's potpourri. All right.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Wait, I want to say before we go, this will be the mystery box. It will become dough boys lore. Kyle, one of the funniest guys I've known you for for the for a while. And I feel like right when you were all doing UCB like almost probably ten years ago now, a long time. And you're one of the funniest guy. We're very happy to have you on here. You're a thrill for us.
Starting point is 02:03:48 Yes, congrats on all your success. Yes, congrats on the film. This is again, I had a great time and you guys make me laugh and damn it. Damn, it feels good. Check out Briggsby Bear as well. Check it out. Yeah, it's a great, great movie. It's super funny.
Starting point is 02:04:06 It's great. And that'll live for this episode of dough boys until next time for the Spoonman, Mike Mitchell and Nick Weigher. Happy eating. See ya.

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