Doughboys - SHAQ WEEK: Shaquille's with Josh Weiner

Episode Date: July 25, 2019

To close out Shaq Week 2019, we're joined by writer and actor Josh Weiner (The Deadbeat, Tight Five) to discuss Shaquille O'Neal's restaurant that specializes in southern comfort food. Plus, a Papa John's edition of Shaq or Wack.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kobe, tell me how my ass tastes. These words, freestyled by Shaquille O'Neal in 2008, represented the most visible flare-up of his famous feud with a strange former teammate, Kobe Bryant. As members of the early 2000 era Los Angeles Lakers, Dill collaborated for a trio of back-to-back-to-back NBA championships. A feat no team has accomplished since. But their extended falling out, which took place in the shadow of Bryant's 2003 sexual assault arrest, and the team's 4-1 collapse to the interdog Detroit Pistons in the 2004

finals, was among the most heated in the history of pro sports. Shaquille was traded to the Miami Heat that off-season, and each player would go on to win championships independently. But the endless speculation about what might have been had Shaquille and Kobe met able to settle their differences, obscures the reality that O'Neal at his best was perhaps the most dominant player in league history, especially given the relative level of competition faced by the other contender, famous Lothario Wilt the Stilt Chamberlain. A 7-1 300-pound Goliath with the agility of a ballet dancer, whose only weakness was

his free throw shooting, Shaquille was completely unguardable in the late 90s and early 2000s, the only thing that slowed him down being his notoriously poor conditioning, largely because he spent his off-season pursuing other opportunities. And while his lack of focus on basketball may have shortened his peak, it also turned him into a one-man brand as big as him, an actor, rapper, host, commercial pitchman, as well as doctor of education and reserve police officer. And the man nicknamed Superman also expanded his portfolio to include food, franchising a number of fast food chains, launching his own fast-casual eatery, Big Chicken, in Las

Vegas, joining the Papa John's board of directors as part of their crisis management in the wake of John Schnatter's ouster, and, in 2019, opening an upscale southern restaurant just steps from where he once dominated the NBA at Staples Center in downtown LA. Serving primarily southern dishes, like fried chicken, ribs, and biscuits, the restaurant has drawn shack-sized crowds off its famous face since its opening in February. As for Shack and Kobe, they've publicly buried the hatchet, as evidenced on the menu, where there's one burger named for Shack, and one burger named for Kobe. This week on Doughboys, the conclusion of Shack Week, as we review the Big Diesel's

LA restaurant, Shaquille's. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host, Shaq Galifianakis, Mike Spoon Mitchell. That's not bad. Yeah, that one's fine. Two people I enjoy. Yeah, they're both great. That was courtesy of Michael Schmerzahl, if you'd like a-

Michael, who? Schmerzahl? Schmerzahl. S-C-H-M-E-R-S-H-A-L. I don't have it written out phonetically. I like your Schmerzahl. I took a guess on the pronunciation. I hope we didn't butcher your name Schmerzahl.

That's someone whose last name is often horrifically butchered. I think you got it right. I hope that was okay. If you have an insult you'd like me to use Mitch at the top of the show, or something that he might enjoy, roastspoonman at gmail.com. And hey, Mitch, the reason I picked that one, it's Shark Week. That's right. That's right.

This is our second episode of Shark Week. Shark Week comes the week after Shark Week. The week or two weeks after Shark Week. Or two weeks after Shark Week. Depending on when we actually get these episodes out. It comes around when Shark Week is. Yeah. We have Shark Week.

But not exactly on Shark Week. Not exactly on our Shark Week. That would be too on the nose and that would require too much planning on our part. It's our celebration of all things Shaquille O'Neal. And part one of Shark Week, if you missed it, was this prior Tuesday on Dope Boys Double. We reviewed one of Shaq's classic films and talked about his many commercials and discussed the man. In general, today we're going to talk about the food of Shaquille O'Neal.

That's right. But Mitch, first off. I know you got something for us. Oh. How do you know? Displeanation. Why were you just baffled at that tea up? Because I didn't know.

You're doing every episode. I'm tired today. We're both tired. This is going to be bad. All right. Here's a little drop for you, Spoon Nation. I am Mike Spoon Mitchell. Our guest looks confused, but it will explain this.

He's already spent way too much time with us today. Partially his own fault. Yeah. Sure. Here we go. I have a... No, I like an occasional alcoholic drink. I come to work lit up.

Sometimes I'll have like one shot of bourbon every minute for one hour, which totals up to... It's a lot of liquid. I'll take a... I'll take a beer and glass of red wine. I've had moments where I've had a little too much of a drink. Fucking an apple driving wild for a couple weeks. And as I was approaching my final thrust, I hit it with enough intensity for to break

into three separate pieces. Did you eat it? It tastes like what? Like a home run pie with vanilla in it that you'd get at like the supermarkets. Spoon Man was weird at the end of that because my name is Mike Spoon Mitchell. Kind of Halo Combat Evolved theme running through there. Sounds like maybe you're right, Nick. We don't have a lot of FPS talk on the program.

I don't think either of us really play that genre. It's said by Mackenzie Middlebun Sr. Middlebun? But his name is different. I don't know if he wants me to say his name. Defazio. Mr. Defazio. I bet he's a teacher and that's what the kids call him.

But online, he's Middlebun. Uh-oh. Well, that Middlebun, I tell you, works real well sometimes. It's gangbusters sometimes. Oh, okay. You can get a Big Mac. That Middlebun is great. Big Mac Middlebuns are great.

I agree with that. Is that improved with the absence of the Middlebun? No. Give me that Middlebun. I like it. I do want the Middlebun. It helps from a texture standpoint. It does.

You know what? Here's to the Middlebun. Here's to the Middlebun. God. We're like those Bud Light commercials. We salute you, Middlebun. That's what we've become. Real bun of genius.

Weigar, I haven't seen you for a little, I mean, I wanted to take a much longer vacation. My vacation was ended abruptly. You had to cut it short at about a month. That wasn't gone for, I was gone for a while. Barely longer than you were. You're gone. I took a separate vacation while you were away.

I was with you in Massachusetts. I came back here. I then took another vacation, came back here, and you were still gone. I shot out with the fireworks. What? I shot out of Massachusetts along with the fireworks. I shot back here.

You mean after July 4th you shot back here? Yeah. Look. It wasn't right after July 4th. You linger longer after that. All right. You always try to make it seem like I'm always on vacation. Not true.

I'll tell you. I got a story. Yes. God, should I tell this story? Can I real quick, before you do that, I was in Quincy Mass and we have not, we mentioned it on our live episodes we recorded with John Hodgman and Gene Gray and Jeff Tweedy.

Friendlies and Papagenos need a new review. That's what you say. I feel like we've reviewed them. But anyway, I was going to say, after we recorded those episodes, we went over to Quincy, and I got to spend some time with the whole Quincy crew. Shout out Wu Tang. Shout out Scoop.

Shout out Raimondi. Shout out LD. Shout out Micas. Shout out Breslin. Shout out Wookie. Who am I missing? Did you say Joey L? Shout out Joey L.

Spend some great time with everybody. Did they do it? They made Wu Tang, made you song do shots? Or was that Breslin? I think Breslin made you song do shots. Breslin made you shots. Yeah, you song is nodding. You song.

Rita LD was there as well. Rita was there. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of fun. Shout out LD earlier. We had a great time with them. Cumsten was there.

Fuckly was there. Fuckly did a keg stand. Yeah. Fuckly's a mad man. I knew it was time to go where I want to take a shower. Yeah. And my mom was like, no, no, no. I need to take, get in the shower before you.

Right. And so I went into my room and my mom was like, this is the story you were not sure about taking. Yes. Okay. My mom was like, I'm getting in the shower. She says like, I'm getting in the shower. I was like, and she's like, no peeking.

And I went, what? I just said, what? Out loud. And then she showered, she showered for a little bit. And then she's like, I'm getting out of the shower. No peeking. And she did it again. And I went, Ma, what the fuck?

Like I, yeah, I was like, what the fuck are you saying that for? What the, why are you saying that shit? Yeah. And she never responded. She yelled at that aggressively. I was, it's weird. I mean, not that aggressively. I yell at you like that.

Yeah, it's true. Do that. Are you scared when I do that to you? A little bit. Good. You should be. I was like, what the fuck? Why are you saying that shit?

What? No response. And Wu-Tang said if his mom did that to him, he would need therapy. Yeah. That's weird. It's weird, mom. I don't think she's going to listen to this. I will say that we had a lovely time.

You Song and I spent some time in Mrs. Mitchell's company. We had a lot of conversations with her. I think she's, she's very easy to talk to. You guys have something of an, you have a hot cold relationship. I'd say the two of you. Like the knob in the shower when you're peering over the top. I'm not peaking. I was peaking, P-E-A-K-I-N-G.

Oh God. That was a joke. I spelled it wrong. I said that to my friend Trevi and she called me out on it. You spelled it like P-E-A-K-I-N-G. Wait, what? But that was what you were saying. I was peaking.

I know. I know. No, no, no. Isn't peaking? Isn't peaking? Yeah. Yeah, I'm hitting my peak. Yeah.

Yeah, I got that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She said no peaking, P-E-E-K-I-N-G. But you spelled it wrong to... A friend. Yes, my friend. But while you were trying to make that same joke? I know.

I was just telling the story of what happened. And you said no peaking and you spelled out... I said my mom said no peaking and I spelled it P-E-A-I... P-E-A... Why did you spell it out in the context of the story? Huh? Why did you spell it out in the story? What is your issue here?

Why do you have to try to get to the bottom of this? You're telling the story aloud to somebody. No, it was over text. Oh, okay. Now I understand. God, fucking damn it. It was very confusing. God.

But you were saying you were peaking like you got hard. No, I never got hard. Like you're making a peak in your pants. I never got hard. Okay. Yeah, put that on your epitaph. Yes, this is a disclaimer for me. I never got hard ever.

Never got hard. Okay. That makes two of us. Hey, let's introduce our guest. He's a writer and actor. I don't think he sat through that bullshit. What bullshit? I love him.

Just introduce him. He's a writer and actor and the creator of the Deadbeat and Tite 5. I love him too. Josh Weiner's here. Hi, Josh. Hi, guys. Thanks for having me. We're friends.

We're all friends here. Yeah, I've known each other for like 10 years. Long time. Longer than that. What are you talking about? Oh my God. That's really aggressive. 13 years.

13 years. That's like 10 years is in the right ballpark. Can he jump down his throat? Yeah. You got a calendar? You're marking off the days? Yeah. I mean, if you're a good friend, you should.

How long have you known me? I don't know. I'm marking out the days so I don't have to know you anymore. Is this like a work release? Yeah. You guys hit 500 episodes. You get to walk away. We keep eating meals like this.

I'm not long for this world. I'm fucking, I'm a fucking fuck, man. I put on so much weight this year. Yeah, you are the fat one now. I'm fucking huge. People confuse us all the time. I was saying this before the podcast. I was saying it's impressive that both of you aren't just, you know, couch bound.

Yeah. I need like a wheelbarrow to get around. You guys look very svelte. I feel like it someday. Thank you for saying that. Mitch, especially you. I have lost 14 pounds, you asshole. Yeah.

I think you found them today. Weiner, you're a former fat guy, sell out pieces. Former? Yeah. I changed my life. I quit my sugar addiction. I have a stronger willpower than you. And you're a guy though.

But as a guy who's lost a lot of weight, sometimes the guy loses a lot of weight and they don't wear it well. It's weird that you lost a lot of weight and you turn into a villain. Nick, can you please finish? Thank you. No, I was going to say you lost a lot of weight and you don't look like a, like a former fat guy. You know what I mean?

Like you don't look like a guy who's like, I don't tell. I say former. I see you. No, because what are the distinguishing characteristics? Because to me, he looks like a slender man. Yeah. He looks like the slender. I've had.

Well, I did wear my all black suit today. I thought it was appropriate. You trick those 12 year old girls. Yeah. Guys will be with you. Just sit there and play with Mitch's cats. You'll be fine. No, you look very good.

Thank you. I feel like I finally grown into my best look. I was always an unattractive man in my twenties and thirties, even fluctuating. You're being hard on yourself. But is that like a peeking? You're being hard on yourself. You look good. A lot of the time.

I don't know. I think I look best now. Yeah. That's great. Yeah. I don't know. We were talking about this earlier. Spoiler alert.

But, um, yeah, I was, I got too skinny. Oh, right. I got too skinny. I had lost like about 50 pounds and it was a, and I saw this picture. Can we, can we, can we paint a picture real quick? Like how tall are you? Would you say six foot? I think you're six foot.

We're about the same height. Yeah. How tall are, and at your heaviest, how, how fat were you? So there's the thing. I haven't weighed myself in five years. Oh, wow. Okay. Cause I didn't want to be, when I was losing the weight, I didn't want to be a thing where,

um, oh, I lost X amount of pounds. No, I get to go out of the cupcake. So even when you were dropping weight, you didn't weigh yourself in your heaviest. You'd have no idea. Uh, no, it was probably, I mean, I think too, well, I think like 250. I don't know if that's realistic or not. I don't know. What were you at your heaviest?

Didn't you? I was between 230 and 24. I think it was 237 was maybe my heaviest. I'll say that. Yeah. And I, and I went down to, I was, I was down to like 174 at one point. Like I was like, I had similar to you. I like, I got too lean.

Yeah. And then I put out, like, you know, I put on a little bit of muscle mass, but also, but more mostly fat. Now I'm fucking like, I was, I had settled in at 190 for a little bit. 190 200, kind of fluctuating that in that area. And I've fucking ballooned up like Mario taking a power up, like a power balloon. And I'm a, I'm fucking like two fit. I was at the gym today.

Mm hmm. I weighed myself at the gym. 215. Yeah. I'm a fucking hog. You're a fat fuck. I'm a price pig. 215.

I'm a fucking huge. I think I still may be at 200. I'm getting distracted. I'm staring at your big fat titties. Well, Mitch, you're like, you're like, you know, the, the like the middle heaviest you ever been. So what are you like 280? We're not talking about this, you piece of shit.

So it's really nice being a guest. So we've all struggled with our weight. We're all at various phases. Yeah. You become a fat chamber. I will, I will, I will turn spoon nation against you. Boy, let me tell you, I will say this as a former fat ass. Well, you know what?

Spoon nation should switch to spork nation. They won't get as many calories. You think that's the issue? You think the spoon is holding the, a few more calories? Yeah. I think we'll, we'll get to the dessert later. But I mean that, if I had a spork, I don't know. Interesting.

You might have eaten less with that with something with some prongs. That's what I'm saying. I was on a, I was on a four prong diet. Right. I only ate with utensils with four prongs. It's a really overlooked part of weight loss is how many prongs per silverware. You get an oyster fork. Get that the fuck out of there.

Fuck you. Yeah. I was going to say, so this is, yeah, as, as someone who is very, who is very heavy and is, and then got leaner and is on the way back to being heavy. Hopefully I'll recover, but I'm fat now. But like, you don't get the goodwill of like, oh, I get to be, I used to be fat so I could make fun of a fat guy. Like people don't like that.

People are, people are just like, Hey, what the fuck were you making fun of? I got, I got people yelling at me for doing that for a bitch all the time. Well, no, I was not saying, I only do it to Mitchell. I only do it to Mitch because he acts like he doesn't want you to do it. But really his, his like self-esteem is so fucking low. He knows that's a quick hit when people pay attention to him for being fat. What the fuck is this shit? No, I get what you're saying.

It's like a Mitchell family attribute. It's like you're equivalent of like, no peeking. You're saying you don't want something, but really you like it. Mitch, like if you would have peaked, how would you have done it? Not say you did, but how would you have done it? I'll do my OJs if I would have done it. Sure, I'll go with that. Can I guess?

How? Uh, saw a hole in the floor like a cartoon. I was thinking more like like a revenge of the nerds. Like you run up like a small fiber. Oh yeah. There you go. Camera through like the ceiling. And dress as Darth Vader.

Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, if I would have done it. Well, Nick, you know that, um, you know that it's the third, it's a three-story drop outside that window. Oh, that's true. So the window is out of the question. Yeah.

You gotta do that. Um, I'd probably just say, my, I forgot something here. I'd walk in simple. I like it. Yeah. It's good. And then, and then just a little oops. Sorry.

My eyes work mom. This is fucked up. I can't joke too much about this. Sorry. I have vision. Uh, Mitch, I regret to inform you that the, uh, that story you just told has just been bought and will be published by the Fred Goldman estate. Here's what I would have done as a family is going to make some money off of it.

So it's going to be wearing your story on a jersey, just like OJ's. I think I would have gone in and said, yeah, I think I would have said something like, I thought you didn't say no, but I thought you said peaking or something like that. Right. Yeah. Wait. So we have to do this. This is a scenario where I want to see my mom showering.

Whoa. That's you saying that. I posited the question of how would you have done it? If you did it. If you had done it, you needed to get yourself into the mindset of someone that wanted to see their mom. I would have used the pipes. If that's what you had to do, that's fine.

I would have used the pipes. I would have used the pipes and I would have come up through the toilet and peaked through the toilet. Okay. How's that? Like a googly? Yeah. Like the googly method.

Yeah. The googly method of peaking. The way that your mom would have to read about it. Some kids movie where they put the saran wrap on the toilet. Oh, I think they do that in that fucking. There's a monsters movie. Yeah. Yes.

So your mom would have to start doing. Oh yeah. My saran wrap in the toilet. My favorite. My pet monster. What is it? No. My pet monsters.

Like Fred Savage is in it. Yeah. Not monsters. Not monsters. Little monsters. Little monsters. That's it. Yeah.

Yeah. I got it. I'm more of a monster truck guy. A monster truck guy. A monster truck guy. A movie with the monsters inside the truck. Look, I can't talk about this too much because. Wait, that was literally born out of the execs kids said.

That'd be a fun movie. Yeah, he was right. I can't. And that kid is now the president of every network. The no peaking moment is truly was scarring for us. Yeah. Yeah, weird. That's very weird.

She hadn't done that to you before. Oh, she told me so afterwards I was like. Why did you say something like that? And she was like, well, when Nick and New Song were here last week, I saw Nick peaking. And and then I missed the attention. Nick told my mom when you saw you like this, that you saw didn't get a good night's sleep at the house. He told her that before he left.

It was true. And my mom was very upset about it. Good job. I didn't realize they upset her. Good job. We say your, your, your mother was lovely. Let us stay in your, your childhood home. I slept in your childhood bed for one night and then we switched bedrooms.

I hope it was a comfortable stay. You saw I didn't sleep too well. He didn't get a good night's sleep in that room, which is cool. No, no, no, no. We switched rooms. It's a normal, it's a very normal thing to tell my mom. It's good. I was explaining to your mom why we were switching rooms, what she was wondering about.

You saw didn't get a good night's sleep in that room because we found it too cold. I was in there. I didn't find it too cold. But we have much higher body mass than New Song does. I use this joke before, but what was there a fucking pee under your mattress? Uh, New Song. Can I tell you something about New Song? First of all, New Song, New Song's a champ.

We, he like. An hour and a half late. We're like an hour and a half late and he was just like waiting on us. So he's a, it's, it's, he's being very, very patient with us, but I was going to say this. I sat next to you song on, I've sat next to him on a number of flights now, but I sat next to him on two flights to Boston and from Boston to LA. I don't think you song can drink an entire glass of water. Like before he has to go to the bathroom, this really, this really hit home with you

song. Cause he gets a, he like asked the flight attendant for a cup of water, just got a cup of water and then drink like two thirds of it max and gave it back to them with water still in the bottom. Those are small cups. They're small cups. There's not, are you just not someone who's very like normally extremely hydrated? What's your, what's your issue?

So I will drink some of the water, but then I'm like, Oh no, I feel the beginnings of like maybe I need to go to the bathroom. Okay. And so I get freaked out because I'm like, it's not worth it. I don't want to disrupt everyone by going to the bathroom. You're sitting next to me. You could have gotten up. It's no problem.

So you song, is it fair to, on the list of things you songs afraid of, is it fair to add drinking water? I mean, in the right circumstance where there's a lot at stake, sure, but yeah, I don't drink a lot of water. What are some other fun things you're afraid of? Just like people and social situations. We get that. Yeah.

I'm aware. I'm aware. We were streaming the other day. I heard you guys were making fun of me. We were making fun of you. We were having, we were making merry with each other. We were having a great time. Why does it have to be, why is it, why is it, why is there experience all sudden about

you? He feels excluded. What's going on? Do you and I are friends? You and me are friends. I realize how quickly you, you like wrap that around. You and I are, you and I are friends. Friends are honest.

You then, you know what? I'll be honest right now. Josh is a great eater. He is a great eater. I'm a great eater. A man of an amazing appetite. I've said this story on the podcast before. It's insane.

You and I were at a writer's guild meeting before our union. We were there in the morning. And I'm trying to remember the exact configuration, but I believe I had a donut and you also had a donut. Oh, Homer. Yeah. It was very, it was like, much like Homer, we each had a donut. You finished your donut, or you've either finished your donut or ate half your donut

and then asked me to hold your plate. No, I think you finished your donut and asked me to hold your coffee and then you went and got a breakfast burrito and you fucking took that breakfast burrito in the dome and no time flat. Yeah. I was like, I had two breakfasts, back to back, two very heavy breakfasts. Have you guys, have you guys reviewed Trey Ho's? We have not read Trey Ho's, but I've been there a number of times.

Please. Fine. Yeah. I think it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I thought you were going to be like, I love it or something. No, it's fine.

It's fine. Trey Ho's, if people don't live in LA, which is most of our listeners, Danny Trey Ho, the actor who you may recognize from a number of projects, he is a, and he has a number of restaurants here in LA. He's only seen Marvel movies, so he doesn't know. I hate Marvel movies. I hate Marvel movies. He wouldn't know like an indie movie that he's been in.

Go ahead, Nick. I'm sorry. I don't know indie movies. I just saw Crawl. That's not an indie movie. I guess what? I loved Crawl. You know what?

Crawl might be the best movie of the year. Wow. Wow. Toy Story is up there. It's like, not a great year for movies, by the way. You say that every year though. I disagree. Oh, God.

Here we go. Well, the last black man in San Francisco is incredible. I haven't seen it yet. Okay. Well, you're really quick to say it's a horrible year. All right. Well, it is a bad year, but until I see that movie, you know, maybe it's my mind. I thought Midsommar was very good.

That's how you say it. Midsommar? So, maybe I'm an asshole. I thought it was Midsommar. Yeah, I thought it was Midsommar. Midsommar. You fucking snooty asshole. Yeah, whatever.

I think it's Midsommar. I didn't like Midsommar. I didn't like Midsommar. I didn't like Midsommar. You didn't like the color billionaire over there? I didn't like Midsommar. I didn't like Selfmade. Selfmade blue-collar billionaire.

I wanted to like Midsommar more. I liked Hereditary quite a bit. See, I'm on the opposite, because I have a good taste. Hmm. Hmm. Wait, but that story of the writer's guilt. Yes. Yes, so I did.

But do you remember the first part? About those people I saw on the elevator? Yes, that was great. So, do you remember? Yeah, before, yeah. So, Nick and I were at the Writers' Guilt Theater, where they usually show screenings, or half screenings. We were there for the meeting about all the WGA Brujaha.

One of the perks of the union, if you're a member, you can go to this theater and you can see some theatrical releases for free, which is something a lot of members take advantage of. Speaking of that. Since it's a movie and TV industry. Speaking of that. Yes. So, I went to the elevator.

The elevator door opens, and it's these three people. They're probably like their 70s or 80s. Like, they had to have been like story editors on Gunsmoke, right? Right. They've just been in it forever. They wrote on 80s sitcoms or whatever. Yeah. And they see me walking towards the elevator, and this woman steps up to me and she goes,

are you here for the meeting? Like, yeah. Did you know they canceled Dumbo? I mean, I know there was the meeting. Yeah, they canceled Dumbo. Did you get to email about the meeting? Yeah, that's why I'm here. Oh, so you didn't get to email about Dumbo.

She was upset that Dumbo was canceled. So, regardless of how this whole WGA thing shakes out, there's three members that just are not going to be happy either way. Because they didn't get to see Dumbo. Instead of if anyone and people who aren't in the industry may not be aware, but there's something of a labor conflict going on with the Writers Guild of America and talent agencies. Can I chime in here for a second? Go agencies.

Go agencies? I was joking, Nick. I don't really mean go agencies. I'm on the writer's side. Because most of you are a union member. I voted for the WGA. You did. You did the bare minimum.

I fired my... I clicked a button. I had to fire my agent. I just want to say go agencies because it's fun. Yeah, it's fun. We can't joke on the show anymore. No, yeah, we can joke. We can have fun.

Fuck writers. Actors, baby. Actors. You're not wrong. We bring the scenes to life. Yeah, where would you be without writers? You know what you'd be saying? Fuck good.

Fuck good. Fuck good. Fuck good. Fuck good. Fuck good. Man. I don't worry. Nothing was written.

That's true. Except for the whole fucking thing was written. But anyway. You worked on the show. Yeah, I worked on it. I didn't have scripted lines. When my mom said no peaking, by the way, my dick fell off and crawled away. Like a worm.

And then a bird flew down to eat it and he went, I shall never eat a baby worm. I'll let him mature. Why do you say mom like a Canadian? It's a Boston thing, baby. Why do I get it? I can get it. I mean, it's just my bad Boston accent where I sound dumb. Wait.

Meaning like you do it. You're doing a boss. Because when I was like, mama, mommy. It was an old New Englandy thing. Hey, you know, speaking to the East Coast. Wait, hold on. Go for it. No, you go first.

No, it's fine. No, you go. No one knew what you were going to say. Jesus Christ. You say what you were going to say. Speaking to the East Coast. Because I realized as I was going that it's not actually in the East Coast. It's more the Midwest.

Oh, I didn't say it. No, I didn't say it. I couldn't make fun of you. No, it doesn't work anymore. What were you going to say? It doesn't matter. This is bullshit. Everyone wants to know what you were going to say.

I'm just trapped in the middle. I was going to say, speaking to the East Coast and major cities of the East. Yeah. The thing is, then it's actually in the Midwest. So I don't even think it was even. But what were you going to say? Chicago, you fucked up. No, it's going to land in Detroit.

Oh, yeah. Which is not in the East. No, it's so far. It made me think of these because I think of everything in terms of NBA conference. It's Chicago. It's East Coast. Excuse me. It is Standard East Coast.

Okay. So I could have said Eastern, the Eastern Time Zone. Yeah. Okay. Which is what I think. The Eastern Time Zone. Yeah. Wait.

What? Eastern Standard Time? Yeah. Detroit is, yeah. Oh, weird. But Chicago, isn't Chicago Central? Yeah. Chicago is, I think, like two hours.

That's Central. It's like two hours earlier. But you're more West than Chicago, isn't it, right? Am I getting this fucked up? I mean, I don't know, Mitch. I'm not a cartographer. Hey, let us know your time zone out there. Hashtag get in the zone.

This is Chicago to Detroit. Do you think there's like, what do you think is the most exotic time zone someone's got there? Detroit is East. Mountain Time sounds sexy. Mountain Time's a cool time zone. Like that. That's cool.

Yeah. I like Pacific time zone because it's kind of laid back. I'm just breezy. Yeah. Nice linen shirt. Detroit Salt Company came up when I put in Chicago to Detroit in my fucking app. Detroit Salt Company? Yes.

Great. Now, everyone listens to this podcast and gets ads for the Detroit Salt Fund. There's someone at the door. I think this is something we ordered. You sung, you might need to sign for it. Actually, I might need to. You know what, Mitch? You can just sign on my behalf.

All right. We had a little interruption there. Weigher. Weigher and his perfect timing. Something came right in time. What do you want from me? As opposed to you sit on the couch and doing nothing. I'm not on the couch.

I ordered something for a segment we're going to do later. When did you want me to order it? You're doing a show right now. I am truly wrong and Detroit is more East. Yeah. You said Detroit Salt Company. What's Detroit Salt Company all about? I really fucked that up.

Oh, my dad owns Detroit Salt Company. You saw and edit that out so I look smarter, please. Oh, interesting. All right. So Detroit is on the East. We have to edit the entire series. When you're going to insult me, we speak into the microphone for God's sakes. In order for you to look smarter, Mike Mitchell, wouldn't he have to edit the entire series?

We would have to reboot the whole thing like every episode of love and the Mike Mitchell pilot. Yeah. Go on. I don't know. What are your other credits? Oh, birthday boys. The film Other People.

The film Other People. Great. Yeah. Parks and Recreation. An upcoming untitled film that has not yet been announced. That's right. Wait. Has it has the name of it not been said yet?

I don't know what's been announced. Oh, I forget the name of it. No. You forgot the name of the movie you acted in. Shit. What is it? I stopped asking. I don't know.

So you're from, we want to have you on, Josh. Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I got to get a Brooklyn Nine-Nine shout out. Oh, there you go. There you go. Shout out Gore. Yeah, Gore. Shout out Phillips.

Shout out Neil Campbell. Shout out who else am I missing over there? Susser. Shout out Susser. Man. Shout out Fan Roby Show. Joe LaTruilio. From the high road.

There you go. From my feature of the high road. Oh, there you go. Yeah. So I want, one reason I want to have you on, Josh. Yes, Nick. I want to have you on. Relax.

Mike Mitchell. We, we've talked. The movie's called Desperados. The Danny Trayho. What was it? It's called Desperados. I'm in it. Very cool.

So. That's amazing. Are you a Desperado? No. I'm a fat guy who does something stupid. Are you a, is it like a, is it like a desperate? No. You guys just mean to me now.

I remember, I remember, cause I, I helped you, uh, I helped you rehearse your scene. It's like you're, you're like, uh, outside the bathroom and then it, someone inside is like, senior, no peeking. So I wondering, it's Shaquie. My dick isn't that person as it just is all. It's Shaquie. Yes. Shaquie here.

And you are from. Is that a worm? I said it was even too small for, you didn't heighten off that. Oh, sorry. Matt Besser. Friend of the podcast. Hey, I also got to say, all right, go ahead, Nick, continue on with the, do you think Besser thinks like we think about Besser the way he like, he thinks about like Sharna Halpern.

Someone like references to Sharna Halpern as podcast, he's like, okay, well let's take it easy. All right. Well here, I'll put us all as a friend. Who, uh, who do we think would have a marathon? Who's like, who have the founding for, are people going to like, would people put in the effort to have a marathon for? Hmm.

I mean, the obvious answer is Amy Poehler, because she's the most famous. Yeah. And I think that's probably the right one. I would say Ian. Oh, Ian Roberts. Yeah. Ian feels like he's the most like guru. Right.

He's got, he's going to get a guru. I mean, like. I'm not going to choose one of the four on this podcast. I feel like, I feel like Walsh is easiest to talk to as a human being. Yeah. Besser is the scariest, but they're all very talented. That's just because you're fucking coward. What are you talking about?

No, we actually picked people. You did nothing. Pick your favorites from the comedy theater that gave you your start. So your huge NBA fan, you're from Detroit, home of the bad boy Pistons. And I want to talk to you about the, about basketball a little bit, but before we get into that, I know that you are an enthusiast for Detroit style pizza. Yeah. Oh, very much so.

You and I bought it over buddies. Let's talk about buddies. One of the greats. Relax, Mitch. Yeah. You're just going to be treating me like a bad guy. Like everything, everything is about like you. Everything is about your relationship to, to a dynamic.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I fell asleep while you were doing that. You're not wrong. Okay. So yeah, Buddy's Pizza.

Yes. Right. Sicilian style pizza, which means it's basically deep dish and the crust is buttered and it's the best pizza I've ever had. Wow. Like literally the best pizza I've ever had. I lived in New York. I lived in LA.

It's the best pizza I've ever had. I haven't lived in Boston though. So I know for sure it's the best pizza I've ever had. Do they have pizza in Boston or do they, no, or do they just have a bunch of like angry people being like, Oh, our pizza is better. Yeah. Yeah. There's no actual pizza.

Just a bunch of drunk guys and Pat's jerseys yelling about their pizza. You were just there. You're fucking backstabber. I had some, some excellent pizza in, in Boston. And then I also did see a drunk guy in a Pat's jersey yelling into his phone, like a block away from there. For real? Yeah.

God. I'll fuck you up. He was like mad. He was yelling at some guys. Did he say, I'll fucking Aaron Hernandez you know, we don't say that. I've had buddy's pizza before. We've talked about it. We were going to do it as a double on.

Yeah. But you know what? I said, I said, why don't you deserve a full episode staff? Let's get him on full up. Thank you. Well, and I would love to come back later and totally talk about it. But yeah. So it started, it started out as just a, um, no, I think it started out the best way

a chain can mom and pop single brick and mortar in Detroit. And then it just kind of grew. And then as, um, white flight happened to the suburbs, right, more buddies populated out there. And, um, when I, whenever I go home, my, my, my parents know, meet me at buddies. Like I'm like, not going to your house. Don't care if people want to see me. The first thing is you come meet me at buddies in Farmington Hills on Northwestern highway.

And it's just, it's, it's so fucking good. Straight to buddies. That's your, your first buddies. And then it's usually about two to three, two to three other buddies, uh, trips, what, and in like a three to four day visit. Wow. And then there's a buddies meal before I go to the airport. You're maximizing your time with your, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, not with the

actual buddies, but with buddies, buddies, pizza. Yeah. My, my actual buddies, I could, you know, take her leave. Right. I, they're not great guys. I dream like me at all how much about mortgage brokering in Detroit. Can you, you know, it's only so quick at loans, talk, you know what you always give? You always get boss in a hard time.

Yeah. Cause it's just a trash. You always get boss in a hard time and I know, you know, and I'm a big Detroit supporter. I like Detroit a lot. When have you ever? I love Detroit. Name our mayor. Uh, mayor, uh, miss Dr. D. Yeah.

The mayor of Detroit. Dr. Detroit. Dr. Detroit. Mayor of Detroit. Isn't full costume. He's just ordering bridges to be built. Who's, who's the mayor of Boston? Um, Quimby.

I don't know. Probably your, uh, probably, uh, what? You're gonna say some relation. No, probably your attitude about Quincy. You know, look, we're, we're, we're tossing quizzes around here. Sorry. Yeah. Mitch, who's the mayor of Los Angeles?

What was it? Uh, Villarigosa. Not bad. I would have been right a few years ago. Yeah. He was a mayor. Who's the new guy? Garcetti.

Garcetti. Yeah. You know, the guy from the wire. I know. I didn't want to guess. I knew, I knew it wasn't, I knew it wasn't Villarigosa anymore. Just forgot who it was. It was a fine guess.

I don't keep up with local politics, but I vote in every election. All politics is local though, Mitch. You've heard the idiom. Yeah. Did you guys ever see show me a hero? No. David Simon miniseries? No, I didn't.

It's outstanding. There's a really good scene about that idiom. Oh, that's cool. That's all I'll say. Eric Garcetti. Yes. Got it. Hey, I'll really show my political chops.

I'll know his first name. Uh, and all fairness. I don't think he actually like runs the city. He's just, he's always somewhere else doing some other shit. Uh, why don't I want to say. I am truly a fan of Detroit. I think it is a very interesting city. It's, it's a, uh, of course, a city that's changing.

And when I went there, there it is. I'm just saying there, there's parts of Detroit that are, that, that are abandoned, which is crazy. Uh, but I saw a lot. I like, I love the city of what I saw of it when I was there. I know, I know that it's had problems, uh, economically and so on and so forth, but it's fantastic. It's a cool city.

Yeah. I love it. I wish I spent more time and buddy's pizza was fantastic. Oh, good. Yeah. No, it's fantastic. It's foolproof. Like, you know, it's, uh,

and it's so weird that that's one of the only places in the world, but go, I'll go. I entered with a thought. Oh, no, no, no. But, um, I actually, I think Marissa Pinson's brother-in-law started a Detroit style pizza in Portland. Wow. Yes.

Marissa Pinson, one of our faves. Yeah. Shout out to Pinson. Pinson rules. Hashtag pin pals. Yeah. Uh, so does David, her husband. Great.

Yeah. Ibnir was on here. Wonderful guy. I know. Oh, you guys should do a double. I've said this to you like three weeks. We had him on. We got to get him back on.

Whatever. They're both great. All right. Why are you bumped? Well, no. Well, I have her on. Have her talk about her brother-in-law's pizza place because I think that it seems like that's, it's a trend that Detroit style pizza.

Um, and I read about it popping up in a couple other places and, um, Whole Foods 365 has a version. Yes. Yeah, they do. Pretty good. Oh, come on. Yeah, it's pretty good. Whole Foods 365 is the fucking, there should be higher shelves in there.

I feel like I'm going to get fucking gunned down when I'm in there. They should be higher shelves. What the fuck are you talking about? It's too empty. Whole Foods 365 is too empty. You're afraid you're going to be gunned down because the shelves, like you need to take cover on. I want to be fucking in a grocery store.

I go down the aisles. Like you're in a fucking Gears of War game. You're like taking cover. What? What is this? Tactically. This is the lamest phobia I've ever heard of. Oh, shut up.

This is much lameraphobia. No. You thought I was afraid of drinking water. Have you heard about Flint, Michigan? There you go. Are you rational? Are you rational? Fair.

If you're my, if you're, if you're... I don't listen to that fucking piece of shit, Michael Moore. You don't need to. You see him in the mirror every day. Oh, fuck you. I'm sorry. No, it's not... That's awful.

I'm not even... We have many friends who you convert to as Michael Moore. I'm not one of them. I'm sorry. You fucking touch people yourself, fat ass. I know. I'm becoming the Michael Moore of the podcast duo. You look like fucking Michael Moore in Team America with a hot dog and a one hand.

And what does he have in the other hand? And my outspoken liberal beliefs. I was like a mega orange. Fucking both full of shit. Actually, I like Michael Moore. I am a fan of Michael Moore. I liked him. I liked him.

I liked him. I liked him. I liked him. I liked him. I liked him. I liked him. I liked him. I liked him.

I liked him. I liked him. I liked him. I liked him. That Fahrenheit. 10. 10ate was was was SevenOOOO000 That's that, I guess that was okay.

Oh boy, I'm. Sorry, most of the things come out of your mouth are inaccurate. But I told you most the things that are delicious and you and I are bonding. You and I were bonding before today. We got like, we always do warmer together. Yeah, and I said you're. Gonna team up with migrant. Yeah, gonna suck and this is exactly what's happened.

Speaking of which, he's a villain. No, I love I love. I'm a villain. You call me Michael Moore. I'm never going to forget that. That's the first time. Is that really the first time? Yeah.

It's first. I was going. Wow. Is it really the first time? Fuck you. Well, I'm slim now. I fly through cracks. Fuck off.

I fly through cracks. You slide through cracks. That's what I said. Well, what I was going to say is I think one of the reasons the three of us originally got along at the theater was fat guy console. Yeah. It was a fat guy corner. Right.

But you were the two, like two of the only guys I could talk basketball. That's true. This is true. I feel like there's not a lot of because you get you get this. You talked to someone about who's ever playing that week and someone goes, oh, the sports ball game. Yeah. And I it's like, look, you don't have to love sports.

I get it. Sports ball. You know what you know what sport it is. Yeah. You know that we're watching a football game as opposed to a baseball game. I wish I was a fucking jock when I hear sports balls. Yeah. This fucking stomp on a nerd.

Yeah. I wanted to bring out the jock in me. Yeah. You know, often I heard sports balls from and I won't name names, but from people who are like, I got the ball in the basket and got a point or whatever. Yeah. Who now do like sports. Oh, yeah.

It's fucking insane. Why are they a bunch of Clippers bandwagoners? That's a real phenomenon in L.A. the people who they moved to L.A. and they become Clippers fans. Yeah. A lot of people who, uh, look, I, there were some birthday boy meetings where I was like, the Red Sox are in the World Series. Can I please watch the Red Sox in the World Series?

Birthday boys were like doing sports ball. No, but they were, they were saying no. They got mad at me. They weren't following sports. And now some of those guys are baseball enthusiasts. Yeah. We've never had it pretty quickly to who you're talking about. No, it's not.

No, it wasn't them who I was thinking. Okay. But then also look, they were at birthday boys meetings. Was I, was I a bad member of the sketch group? Was I bad in other areas? Yeah. It was bad in a lot of areas. Did I not show up on time?

Yeah. As I carried over to nobodies. Little bit. Yeah. Is that why you have to have my weight? No, I didn't sometimes. Was I lazy? Did I sleep through meetings?

Yeah. Yeah, it happened. Am I proud of it? I don't give a fucking shit. Oh, shit. Birthday boys are dead, baby. Dough boys all day. Hey, all right.

Okay. I'm with you. I was never on a birthday boy show. You were in the birthday boy show. All right. We're moving on. Yeah. I was in your anti-symmetric sketch.

Me and Susser. Oh, who are the two Jewish Jews we know? Let's get them to be fair. I'm as rabbi's while we make a sketch about Hitler. What is so bad to be fair? Here's the funny side of Hitler. No one ever thought of to be fair. You were the two most Jewish men.

I do both. You're the mostest. Sus is the most Jew. The most Jews. Sorry. I remember afterwards. I was like, did that like a sus can speak to this? Yeah.

I was like, did that bother you? And Sus is like, I didn't like it. I was wondering. Which is good. I'm glad that he's focused mine. Right. I want to get my friend in the show somehow. It wasn't the best role.

I apologize. No, I don't know. It was more when Hitler, it was a Hitler sketch. Copacus looked pretty Jewish. He could have pulled it off. Is that okay though? See? Maybe I was being a little woke.

He's Greek. Like you can't like. No, I'm saying maybe I was being woke. That's what I'm saying. I feel like you could probably cast a Greek guy as a Greek. Sure. A Greek Gentile as a Jew. Sure.

Okay. Oscar Isaac could play a Jew. He could play a Latinx. He could play anything. Is he not Jewish? Right. No, I think he is Latino, Hispanic. I don't know what the Latinx.

Latinx, yeah. Yeah, Latinx. Sorry. Okay. I don't know. I don't know his ethnicity at all. We should discuss this. Sorry.

What is Oscar Isaac? Let's break this down. But to try pizza. Yeah. It's great. What is it? So it's like it's square, right? It's like a Wendy's burger.

Yeah, exactly. It's square and it's thick. Yeah. It's very thick. It's very dense. And what they do is with, if you get a pepperoni, especially pepperoni, sometimes other toppings. Yeah. They will put the pepperoni under the cheese.

So it's like more baked into it. That's a blast. And it has just such a crispy, great texture. Right. And when you get to the crust, the crust is hard and it's crispy. And it's just, it's so filling and it's just so rich. And I know I said dense, but it's just very dense. And then it's place buddies.

I mean, I got really into it. I was talking to the manager. They're like, we only milk our cows when it's a certain degree, like between certain degrees and certain months. Cause that's when they produce the best milk and it's, they really got it down. I gotta say that sounds like bullshit. So that guy was just making that up, right? We only milk our cows at certain times a day.

Yeah. What the fuck? The manager to buddy. What the fuck? That's what he said to me. They're not milking their own cows there. Well, not there. No, you don't walk outside and do it.

It's like picking out your own lobster at a seafood place. You don't go out and milk your own cow, but he was telling me that the, you know, the dairy farmers actually give a fuck. All right. I've been to a dairy farm. They don't let me around the cows. They said a lot of the times their milk will go sour or they stop giving milk after they see me because I look like fucking Michael Moore, right, Nick and

the Cowley Michael Moore. That's Mitch. I don't know what you're assuming. People think Michael Moore is ugly. Yeah. I'm saying this was I was here. That's what Nick's joke. I'm more.

No, I'm not shaming Michael more. I think more is handsome. No, you don't. Yeah, I do really. It was a compliment. So you were happy that you got compared to him. I tried setting you up with Michael more that one time. You said no way.

Not with that ugly piece of shit. No, I'm saying Nick's joke was that I was, I looked like Michael morning. It wasn't a good person to look like. No, I was saying you look like him. I wouldn't judge. I don't look. I don't think you look like you. You fuck you.

I think you're a large guy and so is he. Yeah. That's where the comparison. Yeah, cool. You look like every other guy in show. Hold on. I was like, oh, you're, oh, you're just wheezing. I look like every other like Joe Pesci's what friend or something.

Maybe I look like the Joe Pesci's fat friend in every your words. Not my, you know, that classic trope Joe Pesci's fat friend. Yeah, I didn't know what he was saying. I was starting to figure it out. Joe Pesci. He's coming out next month. I was putting wheezes together. I don't think Michael Moore is ugly.

I don't shame anyone for that, but that's what your joke was about. Okay. I apologize. I apologize. Shut up. What do you want from me? I'm mad at you. I want to fight you.

All right. Well, let's fucking fight. Oh shit. Oh shit. I also want to say that I am joking. I do care about the birthday boys thing. I care about my shortcomings. I didn't mean to.

I didn't read. I don't, I don't, I didn't not care about that stuff. I feel like an asshole for time. I was honored to be invited. Really? I was honored to spend early morning in Calabasas. I was happy you were there. $50.

And for all my shortcomings with the birthday boys, I of course feel bad about that stuff. With my shortcomings with you. I have no shortcomings with you. You're actually the villain of the podcast. You just don't know it yet. You know, I was in the birthday boy show. I got to play a dad.

That's true. And I put a glued on a mustache. That's right. I love that. That was a great sketch. So we're in denim. One of 10 dads. One playing a character who seed worked.

We'll take a break. We'll be back with more. Welcome back to Dough Boys. Our guest this week, Josh Weiner, our restaurant this week, Shaquille's, an upscale Southern style restaurant open in February of this year, 2019.

Which I like the name, by the way. It's a great name located in downtown LA. Just steps away from the Staples Center where Shaq once dominated the hardwood. Of course it's Shaq week. But before we get into Shaquille's, Mitch, you had something you wanted to hear. You had a good wine or eating story.

I too just had a good wine or eating story. We met at Large Mont Blanc. We had lunch there. This is like a deli. What is this? RIP. RIP. It's gone.

How would you explain that? Like a new American brunch? Yeah. American brunch. The ones where you... Sandwiches. You order up front. They gave you the number you sit down.

Fakely gastropubby. Yeah. A little bit. No burgers or anything like that. But like, I think I got a sandwich in a side salad or something. More like a toast. Like a quality.

I got you. Yeah. So we got sandwiches. We got like a lunch. And then afterwards we got, they had a strawberry muffin there. We got the strawberry muffin together. So we ate the strawberry muffin.

And then afterwards, I think maybe we... I think I got a coffee. I don't know if you got a coffee too. I think you did. Okay. And you were like, What do you think?

Should we go get a cupcake? I was like, What? And you were like, Let's go to a cupcake. And I was like, I was like, A cupcake.

We just had like a big muffin. You're like, I need a cupcake. If you're going to get a cupcake, you want to get a cupcake. Pretty good. Yeah, that was good. Not...

Whatever. Stop. We're going to get a cupcake. That's what you said to me. And I said, All right. And I was like, Yeah.

You were eating. You ate it down the street. Yeah. Then we passed large pizza. Yeah. And you were like, You got a slice. And I was like,

And I was like, This is also after you lost weight. Yeah. It is. You were not big at this point. You were... You had lost the... That weight.

You had lost the... You had lost weight. All right. And I was like, I thought you were joking. I was like, I was like, What?

You fucking kidding me? And you were like, No. You ate two slices of pizza. You... I was floored by it. So full lunch, Strawberry muffin,

Cupcake, And then a slice or two of pizza. Yeah. That's a lot. It's a lot of food. Well, so I would... When I was at my heaviest, I lived on Plymouth,

Which is like a block from Larchmont. Okay. And I used to like... And I was like just... What I was like miserable and depressed and fat. And I would do what I called my Larchmont carb crawl. And it was usually Sam's bagel. And back when crumbs was open,

I'd get a cupcake. And then if the pizza place was open, Slice the pizza. If not, If it was early in the morning, There was a smoothie place. And I would get a French toast smoothie. Whoa.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My Larchmont carb crawl. They throw French toast in there? Like a... No. Like syrup and granola.

Oh, okay. Yeah. But it's not like a cake shake, Where they put a slice of cake in it. I mean, it's basically a milkshake, But it's like a health store. So it's, You know,

That's wild. I'm a big boy. Some even describe me as Michael Moore sized. Yeah. Nicked it. Yeah. Today. Yeah.

I agree. In fact, no one else ever says that to me ever. I agree. Well, you're not, You're not as politically aware as he is. Jesus. Shut up. You didn't even know the mayor.

Eric Garcetti. I remembered him after and Wicked it. He's been reelected. I forget people in my fucking family's name. I don't know. So you're bragging about that. No, I'm saying I have a terrible memory with names. You remember your,

You misremember people's names in your own family. My mom and sister. I know for God's sake. So I'm not going to get into the people who I forget. What's your sister's name? Is that it? Shut up. You don't know your sister's name.

Courtney Ann Mitchell. No, that, no, she, That's Courtney from the writing staff of Mike Mitchell. No, no, no. It's Courtney Davis. That's Courtney. I know Courtney Davis. Also, have we had Courtney on the pod?

We had Courtney on. Yeah. We had her on for the fucking. See, I have a bad memory. We wasted Courtney's time. We had her on for the fucking Olympic Susser games. Oh fuck.

It was an awful episode. She deserves to come back. We wasted her, Mookie, and our buddy Sean O'Connor all came on those three episodes. All funnier than us. All funnier than us.

And those were their only appearances. And they still listen to the show. We wasted them. We got to have them back. I know. What do you want me to say? Sorry. Yeah.

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Can we start? Can we say it like Gilly? Sorry. Sorry. No, that sounds too much like the story from earlier.

What do you mean? It sounds like no peeking. Oh, well, that guy, I mean, I think that's what that's that interaction is. Is your mama, is your mama, is your mama, is that it?

She likes Gilly? No, it's not. That's no. She does like Gilly. Does she not support women in comedy? Oh, God. Weiner. That's a fair question.

All right. Shaquille's Shaquille's. Yes. You're a Detroit Pistons. Can I just point out that I'm holding the mic right? Like Ralph Lawler? Yes. You fans.

Can I just mention that? Bingo. Great. Great. Two. Oh, I'm sure the Doughboys listeners retired Clippers announcer. Ralph Lawler.

That's right. You just hit 5% of Doughboys listeners. Oh, me. Oh, my. How about this 100 wins? How about that? It was great. He's great.

That's the Tommy point. How's that? I'm Johnny most. I'm smoking cigarettes and talking about Larry Bird. Oh, come on. Yeah. Look at him. Closed line.

Applejack steals the balls. Classic. It's classic. No, but I don't like bird steals a ball lays underneath to DJ. DJ lays it in. Game six, 87 conference files. That's a heartbreaker to this day. Were you watching?

Yeah. I cried like a fucking. Wow. Really? Well, I'm an old, old man. I'm old, old man. So yeah, I was probably. Not that old.

No, I'm not that old, but 97. That makes me a blah, blah, blah. No, I was like 10. Yeah. It's like nine or eight. Wow. Yeah. But then the bad boys had those back to back championships.

Back to backs. And you know what that brings me to? Since it is Shaq week. We're all NBA fans. I'm wondering if anyone has a favorite Shaq memory. Oh, great question. And I have one that comes to mind. For me, one of my favorites ever.

And it's a, it's a gift I will, I will use when I have occasion to. Shaq dunking over one of my least favorite players, Chris Dudley, center for the New York Knicks. Absolutely destroyed him. Yeah. Just dunked on him so hard and then shoved him down afterwards. And Chris Dudley was so mad that he picked up the ball and then baseball tossed it across the court and yell, fuck you. Yeah.

It was fucking right. It's one of the best stunts of all time. I wanted to say one thing with a quick question. I said this to you guys earlier. I don't think he's not my favorite player. I don't think he's the best player without a doubt. If I got to pick any player in their prime, I'm taking him a hundred times out of a hundred times.

First player over. If you're drafting the entire league, you have the number one overall pick in the prime. Yeah. It's time traveling, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. No one has ever been more dominant than him. For sure. Not even a question.

The other, the other option, I guess, in terms of dominance is Wilt Chamberlain, but the level of competition was nowhere close to what Shaq faced. I think Shaq probably has like 50 pounds on Wilt Chamberlain. Yeah. Shaq was a fucking. Shaq was crazy. Fucking monster in his best. I'll say my, like, maybe it's just cause it's my first memory of him and it just, it

just solidified that he's going to be what we all thought. Yeah. He's been his first game. He stole the ball, took it down the court and dunked it in. Oh, yeah. And this was a seven foot guy in 1992. So, I mean, even today, it's still impressive. Back then it was, he was literally from another planet.

The level of athleticism. Cause now I think people think of Shaq in his current form and he's kind of a, he's kind of a larger guy. If you didn't see him in his playing days, you know, especially when he's younger, he was lean. He was very athletic. He was very fast. Very agile.

He brought two backboards. Remember that? Yeah. And Josh, by the way, you know, I'm a Lakers fan. I admire you not choosing your, your Pistons winning in four one in the championship over the Lakers because you could have picked that and that wouldn't have not been a classy move. I guess you would have been just fine to do so. That's my favorite moment.

Honestly, as a bad boy, like I have noticed as I've gotten older and met younger Pistons fans, it is a generational divide for sure. Like bad boy Pistons fans were, were just kind of meaner and shittier and crakier. And like, I can't even entertain that the Oh four Pistons would beat the bad boys. It's, it's just not even a, it's not even a question. I was a big competition. We would just, we would murder you guys. Like it's not even a question.

I was, I was, I was, I was a big fan of the, the Oh four, any, which made me cause I was a Celtics fan and there was a, it was hard times for Celtics fan for, for a while there in the early, in the early 2000s, when, when like the Sixers played the data barrows, data barrows, basically from the departure of Bird until the acquisition of Paul Pierce, the drafting, I was just thinking about this yesterday, a few lean years, because someone on sports center was like, whoever is not walking through that door. I think it was Tony, Tony Cora just said it about someone like whoever's not working

through that door. Some guys not working through that door. And I'm like, that is a reference to the Celtics, the Rick, it's great how that's become kind of like a verbal meme. Is that a way to put it? Like people, people use that all the time. Any circumstance. Yeah, like, yeah.

Because the shitty coach said it in frustration because he was doing a bad job and later he fucked his friend's wife in the Italian restaurant. Fuck, fuck, but you know, red bottle of white. I'll fuck my friend's wife tonight. We're going to Olive Garden. Do anything you want in Petino's fuck factory restaurant. Kind of endless soup and bread sticks. No, any way, your wife, any friend's wife you want.

Hey, what's on the special tonight, Jody's wife? Well, the Celtics. So I was big time room for the Pistons and that and that I love. I love the old four Pistons. Don't get me wrong. It was a great team. And yeah, I did that. You guys are clearly very dominant in that era, but the Lakers team collapsed and they

were the greatest teams ever. It was. Was that the was that the Malone? It was Malone. That was the Malone year. Malone was injured. That is embarrassing. That is an embarrassing loss, but also that team was like, it was pretty dysfunctional.

Yeah. Well, and now I also, I mean, like if any team was going to win like Malone, I would be happy to win a championship or whatever. Right. But hey, you know what? This is in Head Gums. Great podcast buckets hosted by Amir Blumenfeld. Well, hold on.

I didn't get to say my favorite. I thought you did say I was going to say I said this to you at the restaurant. Yes, that I think that Shaq going to the Celtics, even though he there's a possibility that he may be even cost us a championship because he's out of shape and he and if he was, if Shaq was in shape, that's a little hyperbolic. Well, because we didn't it's because we lost perk, right? And then it was Shaq. Am I getting this correct?

Or did we lose Garnett and it was Shaq Perkins? Was that different? I don't know. I think I think it was either Garnett or or it was it was either Garnett or Perkins and it was that sort of situation where Shaq had to step up. All right, but you're your was maybe Garnett because I think it was Orlando magic. We had to just beat the magic with Howard. Okay, your theory was my theory was that Shaq made a he made he went.

He came to the Celtics for his in his a lot of ways. It helped his brand brand strengthening all of New England, then like Shaq. Yeah, he's like dirtbags don't like me yet. How do I get the entire region? He was on the Lakers. He was just racist. He was just the enemy. Oh, Jesus.

Here was the issue with Shaq that and and yes, do you had the chronology rough roughly right, Mitch? Thank you. It was it was his last season in the league. He was very, very out of shape. Yeah, but they had traded Kendrick Perkins. That's what I was to the thunder for Jeff Green, I believe. And then did Garnett get hurt that year or now?

I don't remember if Garnett was or not. Did we lose to Orlando? That was the year that yeah, that would have been the year they lost to Orlando because that was that was who the Lakers beat in that other. Then I think I think actually wait. No, no, 2009 2010, right? 2000 was 2010 2011 was the the Mavericks Championship. Yeah.

Yeah. So and so I don't remember who they lost the Celtics lost to in that playoffs. Regardless, Shaq possibly cost us at least playing for a championship. Can I just summarize what you said? Yeah. Your favorite member memory of Shaq is a branding opportunity. What did you want to talk about? That wasn't my point.

I was trying to say that in New England, like I don't know if I loved Shaq. He was a Laker and he was a bad guy to me for a long time. He came to the Celtics. I liked when he went to the heat as well. And then when he came to the Celtics, I became a Shaq fan and I was happy to have him on the Celtics because I liked secretly liked Shaq. I wanted to like him and he's of and he is one of the most fun celebrities the sports celebrities there is.

He's not the best. George Foreman. What do you do, Nick? Now you're in like I'm in the weeds. Here's what happened. The Shaq year was the year that the Heedles beat the beat the Celtics in the finals that Braun stepped up and that they won that series for one. And that was that was Shaq's final.

In fact, at the notation rate, the notation here, game four, that series was Shaq's final NBA game. He was on Cleveland before he came to Boston. He was on Cleveland. He was on Cleveland. He was on the Suns. He was on he was on the heat and want to champion want to title with the heat. So yeah, you kind of like it.

No, but yeah, he had a long, a long sort of drop off at the end. And yeah, the the Celtics run was it was kind of the end. But yeah, so that was that was what that playoff was. Shaq even 50. You just started Wikipediaing. Well, well, I know I'm sorry. I got in the weeds and we were talking about I wanted to make sure we had our fact straight.

God, this is becoming never have our fact straight. Who cares? He's 47. He's still young. Man, he's still young. I know it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, it's that's why because, you know, athletes, they get very pro athletes

get famous, very young. So 10 years ago, he was he was he was like our age. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, he was he was in the NBA and like our age and people were referring to him as ancient. Like, you know, it's weird. He talked about like the bronze 34 best shape of anyone maybe ever exist.

Oh, he's he's too old. Yeah, or they'll he's he's washed up. Anyway, I'm not quite washed up yet. But yeah, he's he could be. He could be soon. I don't think his people say like Mitch would say Mitch would say. Hey, this year this year is going to be washed up. It's a thing Shaq says.

I know you're trying to bait me. It's a thing Shaq says himself. Father time is undefeated. That's true. And so it's it's unfortunate to with sports. But let's talk about the restaurant Shaquille's. It's a restaurant. We'll maybe cut some of that dry basketball talk out of there.

So is his restaurant undefeated against us three? Yes. Were we undefeated? We're going to find out we get the Shaquille's. I was there and I sat at the bar for a little bit. I was waiting for you guys to arrive. And I really blame me on this one. OK, who's I wouldn't toss any blame around.

I was saying I was waiting for you guys. It just sounds like a thing that you're like, I was ready. I just wanted to go. I was I was ready to go early. OK, you get you and you and wider car pulled. I took the train over. That's right. Yeah, I was a choo choo today, Nick.

It was a great ride. I will say that everyone dressed up as their favorite superhero. Well, it's not like a thematic dressed up on the train like it. I thought Comic Con train was never my friend. Something like a Comic Con train. All right, OK. Comic Con's in San Diego. I is a dumb OK.

It's not like a murder mystery thing. It's like a train ride. People take their jobs. You want to get more people on the train? Maybe maybe you know what? Hey, that's not a bad idea. Every other person that train was an actor. So the only thing now is which superhero would you dress up as?

Good question. A blank man. David Wayne scared. Blank man. So we get we thought you were going to do like a who's the stretch guy? Mr. Fantastic. Oh, Mr. Fantastic. Yeah, I mean, I worked on the fantastic four games.

You know, I'd be I'd be Rorschach from the Watchmen. Oh, because that's that guy's got it all figured out. I got someone I got knows what the world is really like. I got one for you. Yeah, I got a good one for you. Hinesite Lad Hinesite Lad. Yeah, he kind of looks I don't know. It looks like a lame superhero that you would want to be.

What did you just look for it? You just Google a list of lamest superheroes. I googled lamest superheroes. Hinesite Lad. Superheroes. Most like Mike Mitchell. I know. Oh, Hinesite Lad.

Ooh, Liger. What's this one? This one is you actually would like dog welder. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. You like welds dogs to each other. No, he is holding a dog in a and is in his welding at the same time. So it looks like that's not very excited.

You nailed it with blank man. That's that's that's that's that's that's perfect. I thought that was going to be like a like a for what's that fucking a human centipede situation both dogs. He's like he's welding dogs to each other. That's where your mind went to. Yeah, that is kind of what the movie is what human centipede is. Right.

Yeah. Boy, how would you say that sounds fun? You want to you want your mouth wielded? Oh, come on. Like you've never had someone shit in your mouth. I've never tasted shit. Neither accidentally nor on purpose. I've never tasted shit either.

I was one time. You've had shit. Yeah. Accidentally. Sure. What happened? Oh my God. What the fuck eating shit?

I've never I've never eaten shit. Okay. I've accidentally drank and piss, but I've never I've never eaten shit. You've accidentally drank piss. Yeah. I got pranked. I got pranked. My friend in high school.

I was drinking. I was drinking beer and then he gave me a glass of piss and it took a glass of piss. I was like, what the fuck really? Yeah. What the fuck this piss? It's this is fucking girl continues to fucking suck it down more please. If you're going to give me this shit, I want it from the source.

So anyway, we got a Shaquille's and I and why don't we talk about shit eating? Oh, we were talking about dog welder and we're talking about super heroes. We're back. Here's the issue. Here's the issue with the train right now is that they're doing some construction. So I had to hop on the silver line, which is a bus line to get the rest of the way to the LA live, which is where Shaquille's is. But we sat down there.

I was waiting for you guys. I got myself a glass of water from the bartender who is very, very friendly despite me not ordering a drink. We set the table for kind of how the service was in general, which I thought everyone was very pleasant, very friendly. We sat down at this table and I'll just say that pretty early on we ordered our drinks. We won't name our server, even though she did a great job. She was great, but there was a mishap.

And this is the kind of mishap that you would expect to attribute to me as someone who is known for spilling things. I know exactly what happened in hindsight. Also, I got the brunt of this. You do realize you got most of you were in the biggest part of our back pack. My backpack got soaked. Selfish prick. My arm got my arm and phone got so.

Okay. Well, our well, our server accidentally knocked over my entire drink on the on the tray and it poured onto the table, poured onto my backpack, which was on one of the seats. It was, it was, it was on my, on like my body. It was like everywhere. It was like a, it was, it was a SeaWorld situation. And we had to, we actually had to move tables.

So they had to clean it up. Make some sort of fucking shammoo joke. I'm not going to do it. I'm sorry. I apologize. No, I'm sorry for body shaming you earlier. That was inappropriate. It was supposed to be bigger than that.

Yeah, you are bigger than that. Wait, I'm skinny. So I don't have to apologize for that shaming. That's how it works. Yeah. You're skinny. Wow. Why are skinnier than you?

I know. It's, it's weird. Fucking tubby. How does it feel tubby? Well, I bet he was skinnier than me before. And then we got similarly leaner and then I've, I've plumped up a little bit and you stayed late. Anyway, so it was, it was, it was, here's what happened.

Yes. I got like kind of a tiki drink. Yes. It was called the, what was it called? Oh, you got the hold on. Here's, here's what we did. I believe you got the, you're welcome. You're welcome.

Yeah. You got the, you're welcome. Um, and then, which I believe is what Mrs. Mitchell said to you after she got you peaking. I offered up this info. It's not like you sleuthed and found this information out on your own. Yeah. It's a good story.

Uh, so, uh, you got the, you're welcome, which was spiced rum, passion fruit, orange, pomegranate, syrup, uh, winer. I believe you got the raspberry fizz, which was Hendricks gin, peach puree, raspberries, mint, simple syrup, lemon juice, Prosecco float. And I got the celebration, which was our service recommendation, Prosecco, cucumber, Saint Germain, fresh lemon juice. We all got refreshing drinks cause it was a very, very hot day. Yours was like in a tiki glass.

Yeah. It was in a big tiki glass. She took Winers drink off. Then she took my drink off. The unbalance of how heavy that big tiki cup was, shot your drink flying. It toppled the tray cause mine was a conventional glass. Yeah. And, and, and that's where, that's where all the soak happened.

Yeah. She, she felt so bad. She was so embarrassed. I felt so bad for her cause it was not that big of a deal. No. And she was very sweet. She was very nice. It was fine.

Everyone was very accident happened. Everyone was very helpful and attentive. But I can't imagine cause like that's the kind of thing like you would like do, especially if that's your job and you'd be fucking, you'd be so embarrassed about it. We were saying to her that we, we, we constant, I mean, we should have said to her that we, we constantly feel like drinks should be poured on us. So it's, so it wouldn't bother us at all. I mean, like I, I felt, I said to her, I'm sorry at one point where she was like, huh?

But you know, all the time I've known you, you, you do a lot of preemptive apologizing. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I will say that, uh, sorry, sorry for apologizing to you. Shit. It's a, it puts a lot of pressure on me to have to like, no, it's okay. Oh God.

What, what were we going to say? I was going to say, here's what I'll say about the drinks. I enjoyed mine. I thought the, I, you know, cucumber drinks are a little bit played out at this point, but this was a nice execution of it. I thought, I thought everything was well balanced. I liked the little bit of fizz on top. Um, the whiner you liked your drink, your drink seemed pretty good.

It was great. It was refreshing and just, uh, effervescent. Great color to it. It was a nice fun color. And Mitch, you had a little bit of a, of a snafu with yours at first, the spill aside, but this is where I just started to cloudy in this meal and I have not recovered to this moment. Right.

Yeah. I felt so like in a dream state since, since we've been, and this was, we were there three hours ago just to be clear. It was a, it was a very lengthy. It was such a long day. This is like, this feels like a work day going to Shaquille's and recording this. It is a work day.

It's in reality. It's not for people who listen to the podcast. Oh, here comes bitches. Labor talk. No, I mean, look, a real world, you know, a real job is a nine to five. We're hammering, like you're Quincy when you're clock in, you clock out. You clock in and you clock out. Also, you just, your idea of physical labor from the Flintstones hammering

rocks. What are you talking about? Look, you know, once the birds squawks at the end of the day that it's time to leave, you hop on your Bratosaurus and you roll on out of there with your feet, bam, feet. No, I then you get home and Barney's fucking your wife. Yeah. What the fuck Barney fucking.

Oh my God. Bam, bam's not mine. You sick fuck. Wait, Bambam is isn't bar Bambam Barney son. Oh, wait. Who's the other one pebbles pebbles? Wait, who's the wife Wilma Wilma? He's okay.

He's railing Wilma. Who's the other was my I bet you you can find that immediately. Yeah, it's pretty easy. Who's the other wife? Oh, I don't know, but I like you rebel Betty rebel. Yeah. Betty rebel. I was a Betty rebel fan and Elroy.

That's the Jetsons for God's sakes. That's also. Are you just naming the Jane about there? I will say Hannah Barbera is a thing like I think like those references have just aged out of the culture like people don't know what don't Hannah Barbera cartoons anymore. You think there's a lot of Googling going on right now as people are listening?

I think there's a lot of fast forwarding. Do you know who Fred Flintstone is? No, I don't watch cartoons. I like to eat ass fucking Millennials. You fucking ass eating little young Millennials. What are the Doughboys going to review ass? My favorite food. I am a Millennial after all.

They sound like dubbed like dubbed over people. Wait, what were we talking about? Oh, the drinks. Yes. So yours was I see I got foggy. I got foggy. See and then just starting now and it really it was very boozy. I had you guys take sips.

Super boozy when you said which I thought to probably a rum float. Yeah, on top of the drink. Why was a whiner was fascinated by this rum float concept? Yeah, that's fascinating. That's what you pour a little little Myers dark rum on the top of a drink. It's a pretty standard thing.

It was too strong. So I got a straw, a paper straw. Yes, and congrats to Shaquille's and and the drink was pretty good afterwards. Still very strong. It needed a little Swiss and needed a strong need a stir. Yeah, the absence of a straw there hurt that one because it was just too.

It was not balanced. You know, I would almost venture to guess. Maybe it was supposed to come with a straw. Oh, yeah. Maybe it could have been. Maybe it got lost in the the old I yawned right there. Yeah, I shouldn't let people know. Okay, we all had 5000 of the most empty calories you could

imagine. Well, okay. So that's where we started to get dizzy. Yes, we're having a hot day. It's cool. It was cool in there. It looks very nice. It's lovely.

It's like a nice California pizza kitchen in the interior. Yeah, yeah, I would say a little more. Yeah, sure. I didn't like the lighting fixture as I pointed out. I was very impressed with the ceramics on the table. The little side plates, nice little floral design. Yes, that was nice. Yeah, it was a lot nicer than I thought.

It's definitely because Shaq has another restaurant. I mean, in addition to owning a bunch of fast food franchises, he has a chicken restaurant in Vegas that's a little bit more fast casual, but this one is very much like trying to do like an upscale like not quite fine dining. It's still accessible, but it is meant to be a nice meal out and the prices definitely line up with that. Let's get into our apps.

So we discussed a little bit about what our game plan should be and we ended up going to Buffalo Chicken Dip, the brisket sliders and the fried green tomatoes, which was our servers recommendation. I thought these were all great. I would think the consensus was that the brisket sliders were perhaps the most deficient and the they were still like better than quality than you would.

You would find at most places. They were. Yeah, they were above chain restaurant. Like if I got that at a cheesecake factory, I'd be like, okay, yeah, this is right in line with what I'd expect on the Buffalo Chicken Dip though and the fried green tomatoes that were both great. I love like, yeah, really great presentation and we got extra

chips for the Buffalo Dip. So much. I liked it. Oh, I like the buffalo chip was great. The Buffalo Dip was I think maybe my favorite. That's a move. I love it a restaurant. They do it at Hillstones all the time, which is one of my favorite

chains, which is that they give you not enough chips for your dip. So you're going through and you're like, oh, I'm out of chips. And then they bring you a fresh chips refill with your dip there. It's just blast. It's a blast. It's a nice little bit of presentation. And those chips, those chips were good. They were like potato chips, but they were like house fried

potato chips. They weren't out of the bag. The Buffalo Chicken Dip and the fried green tomatoes were by two faves. Those are really good. And they had like a little Cotija and I like a lime aioli that was a drizzle there. That was that was nice for dip.

And though that was those were great apps. And then we got a we got an order of the fame Shaq's famous fried chicken. I'll read the description here. Free range jidori chicken brine for 48 hours served with house made barbecue and hot sauce. I will say that we did not receive the barbecue and hot sauce until Mitch asked for it.

I'm glad you did because those are some good sauces. Yes, they should just be on the table. Yeah, there's no reason for them to for you to have to ask for those to come out. Can I tell you how I feel about this fried chicken? Yes, please. I wonder how you guys will feel. Yeah.

We should talk about the presentation, dude, but go ahead. The presentation was cool. It was on like a tall little like a little side. Well, go ahead. I would like to say, yeah, it's presented on like a little platter almost like kind of like a like a one foot tall sort of platter and like a candelabra. Well, it's it's it's I think they're going for an imitation

ostier, which is this French ceramics company. Oh, God. And I would say nice try. You're a man who knows the ceramics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll stay very nice. Uh, what they had was very nice. Again, they're going to terracotta coated glaze. Excuse me, Mitch.

I'm not done. Uh, they wasn't going to interrupt you. We're just going to edit it. Well, if you want, what can I do? I mean, you're going to be a dictator. You know, you're going to be a dictator. I was going to say maybe it's it was taller because it's shack sized.

Hmm. I got you. Uh-huh. Yeah, I hope to God that's the reason. Yeah. Well, I could it could have been it was it was it was a very nice display. It was a nice imitation ostier.

It was a nice imitation nestier ostier, ostier, ostier. Thank you. When I worked at the Simpsons, I won't say who the writer was, but he would order a ah, he tune a nice was salad and I'd be like, ah, he tune a nice one. He'd be like nice was nice and he would like and he would he would he would correct. I love them though.

Actually, it wasn't Selman by the way, he's been on the show so I want I bet you someone knows who it is when I'm just saying I'm sure he does. Um, that reminds me that there's this kid I went to middle school with and he his name was John Michelle, whatever fine. But if you like called him, hey, John or something like that, are you like drop the Michelle party? He'd be like, John Michelle.

Michelle just have a fucking nickname. It could be called John Michelle. That's three syllables. I will go on to shorten. I will go on to Ruthie Zoe Bartlett. And season four of the West wing. Uh, I like that you. I like this anger toward someone.

I like I do too. I do too. Yeah, I'm angry towards you all the time. I know it sucks. No, that wasn't more private. That was that was that was great. Okay, I'll try to bring more of that more, more beefs. More wire there's more.

We're going to be here's my thought on the fried chicken. If that's going to be one of your. You're your your big menu items. Yeah, it's in a it's in a larger font point. Yeah, there's a box around it. They're trying to get people to order it. It's going to be fantastic, especially you're in L.A. The fries, the fried chicken craze has gone kooky.

There's a lot of there. There's a lot of there's a lot of competition with fried chicken fried. Chicken is the new gastropub burger. This is an observation you've had before Mitch. It's the truth fried chicken is now the thing. Well, I mean, it's all it's all it's either on the phone. Honestly, it's on the way out. I think bagels right now are in bagels.

I went to Maurice this morning whiner. You had not been there. No, very, very good. I think you would like it a lot. Great. I'm excited to try. Sorry, when you said Maurice, my mind instantly went to the music shop in Long Beach, California, where I'd get my reads.

I would win double reads double reads there. I want my friend Becca Weber huge soup plantation fan. Nick, very cool. Speaking of I went there once. I loved it. You went to Maurice music. Soup plantation. OK, yeah, I've been there a number of times.

Name's a little problematic. It's called a sweet tomatoes in much of the country. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just don't think that that fried chicken was where it had to be. I hate to say that point. Hey, hey, hey, it wasn't. It wasn't bad.

It wasn't bad. No, it was good fried chicken bad. Here's here's what I wanted to say. Do you guys know how much that fried chicken was because you could only order as a half chicken or a whole chicken? Yes, I looked at the price and it was 20. It was $29 for the half for a half chicken was a whole. I mean, the whole is not is not double the price, but it's like,

you know, it's about 60. It's a lot of something. I don't have the menu price in front of me. I just have it on the receipt. It was too much. I think it was high 40s, but it was still yeah. And and it's good. It's good fried chicken.

But I and I think that's like if I just had that, I'd be like, you know, if I went to a chicken shack and I had this, I'd be like. And I'm not trying to do a pun on shack. Yeah, I'm not saying chicken shack. You want to do a chicken shack? S. C. S. H. A. If I went to an S. H. A. C. K. Okay.

If I went to a chicken, one of those a restaurant, you were out of chicken. S. S. H. A. Q. Yes, I was here. I was a chicken S. H. A. Q. But imagine I was if you will, I was in at a chicken S. H. A. C. K. Okay, where I had not spent $29. We had not collectively spent $29 and a half chicken. I would have been like this is good fried chicken, but spending

that much here in this nice fancy restaurant, I was like, I would have liked a little bit something more. It just it doesn't have any like a significant characteristic. I was particularly disappointed in the breast. I thought I thought all the dark meat was well cooked, but the breast was not juicy. Where if you go to a really good fried chicken place, the breast wasn't necessarily super dry, but it was it was it was it was it wasn't as juicy

as I would have liked it to be. I have myself a thigh because I'm a thigh guy and I like that. I like that dark meat, but and it was a good thigh. But I agree that it was like a lot and it was also very, very greasy, which is a I had like a grease beard afterwards. Yeah, like, you know, or also if the kind of like the whole ambiance or presentation of the meal or the restaurant wasn't kind of elevated, I would be happier with it.

Yes. Because it was just like a more casual. Yeah. What are you saying? Like going to a chicken shack. No pun. That was no pun intended. No pun intended.

Right. No pun intended. S. H. A. C. K. Right. Yeah. I'd be perfectly fine. But right, given the kind of the presentation of it all. You're going to put it on a fucking.

O. S. D. A. Jack sized. O. S. D. A. Jack sized pedestal. Yeah. And make sure it's worth it. Bring that O. S. D. A. Chicken.

I agree. And I'll say this hot sauce was good. Barbecue sauce was good. My favorite was the honey barbecue sauce was the my favorite of the bunch. Good sauces there that three trio of good sauces. Let's talk sides and then we'll finish up with the burgers and the dessert. So the sides we got. We got the BC mac and cheese, which is a comes with a cheese cracker crust.

We got the roasted carrots. That's right, which had a little honey yogurt and some herbs. And we got the buttermilk biscuit stuffing. No, I'm sorry. Did we get the corn pudding? We got the stuffing. Yeah, the stuffing which had sausage, fennel and smoked sweet potatoes. I will say that I love the carrots.

Those carrots were a surprise hit. Carrots were great. They were really, really good. They're really well cooked. Great ingredient too. The great product and then the yogurt sauce just worked really well though. That was that was a great if I'd gotten that at like a nice new American restaurant, I've been like, oh, this is great.

Yeah, I agree. This is go to the mac and cheese was divisive for us. Mitch, you and I liked it. You and I liked it and and I thought that it was maybe, you know, it could have been maybe a little cheesier, but it was nice and was the best mac and cheese was the best mac and cheese, but it was good mac and cheese down down the road, middle of the road mac and cheese. It was good.

A quality barbecue style side. You had some I threw it on the ground and said, fuck this. That's right. No, I don't know. I thought it was just slightly better or no. I thought it was the best version of like store bought mac and cheese, man, which that being said, it was pretty good. And I ate a lot of it.

Yeah, but did you like that? Cheesecracker crust? I kind of worked for me. I like the texture. It gave you know, and that's like a broken record. It was more just about the presentation of it. Yeah, there's something that was a little kind of clumsy and in kind of an elegant about it.

Right. I got it. It looks it looked like cheese. It's where sprinkled on. Yeah, you said that right? Like what are these cheese? Well, so what are these cheez-its? I wasn't mad.

When am I back in the fucking Quincy? Now I sound broke like Brooklyn. Oh, what the fuck? I'm like, get this fucking time. I'm in fucking Quincy. Quincy yet again. I love it too much. Fuck.

I love it here. Hey, my you showering. Yo, he turtle. We're back in Quincy. I am Quincy Boulevard. And the the the where we're going to say, I was gonna say like the the sometimes that the crackers dried it out too much for me on the top. So I was digging a little below.

I think the stuffing was the loser. Yeah, the stuffing wasn't nothing. I don't like it, but you liked it. I did. It's very I thought it was very dry to me. It tasted like like like raw, unsweetened cookie. It's like it didn't really have like a great It was so ready.

I didn't get any sausage in mine. No, I didn't get any meat in my fork full. So they took a number of them. You like it. Were you the fucking Grinch? Did you steal all that sauce? Yeah, I did. I told our service like, hey, just give me a sign.

I thought it was good. I thought it was really good. It was I don't know. It's just it just felt very comforting and I like the the moisture of it. Yeah, it did stick to my mouth a little too much. Right, the roof of my mouth, I should say. Yeah, I thought it was good and just it wasn't I wasn't expecting to have it on the menu and just it was like a pleasant surprise with the meal.

Yes, I guess. Yeah, I will say maybe in a vacuum. I could see more where you guys are coming from, but it's an interesting side. It just didn't work that well for me. That's all that said, they do have a nice array of sides and for a southern style, you know, restaurant. It's nice that they have so many of them. I have a question for you, Nick.

If it was on the 2002 Lakers, who would it be? Oh, or any on the the the three Pete anywhere the three P. Yeah, I mean, boy, that's that's tough. I'm going to say it's like it's like Rick Fox. It's like kind of like, you know, it's it's maybe serviceable on one end of the floor on occasion, but starting to tail off. Old Rick Fox had a nice, a nice career, but he's fine, Mitch. But, you know, he did.

He was starting to tail off towards the end of that. I was going to say Glenn Rice. That run. Oh, Glenn Rice. He reminded me of something from my youth and pretty much careers over. But every now and then it did some stuff to remind you that like, yeah, I used to be the absolute best. Yeah. I mean, he had some big shots. Yeah.

Um, do I have to say we're paling. What a bizarre story that was. That tape exists. Send it to Doughboy's Brian Shaw. That's my pick. Oh, Brian Shaw is a good one. Um, yeah, it wasn't it wasn't great, but we did have something great. Yeah.

You know, it's speaking of players on the three Pete Lakers and there are two menu items named after the two stars. There's a shack burger and a Kobe burger. That's right. And evoking their personalities. The shack burger is the every man burger. American cheese, caramelized onion, house made pickles, shack sauce and brioche. And the Kobe burger is the more elitist, uh, sort of upscale burger by your burger.

Greg Norman, prime Kobe beef, Gruyere, roasted tomatoes, waderugala, bacon jam and brioche. I will say both the burger and the man. I know you're trying to compare me to Kobe, but I am team shack all the way. Shack was the reason that team was so great. And shack was, I mean, look, look, I mean, that's like, you know, like, I think you could have plugged so many players into Kobe's role without shack. That team doesn't win three championships and he's MVP of all three of those teams

and was the regular season MVP one of those three years. He had he and that's shack burger at this game is rigged. It's Shack's restaurant. They do shack the better burger. The burger shack burger is so much better than the Kobe burger. They're both good. They bought the shack burger is much better. Shack burger is fucking great.

I like shack more than Kobe to not just because I'm hoping to get invited back. Yeah. But when you said that there and I was like, that is the best basketball food hybrid take I've ever heard in my life. Well, I think like you absolutely nailed it. And like it is such a outrageous conspiracy theory that I think it's a hundred percent true for sure. They definitely rigged it.

Yeah, it's his restaurant. Yeah. Because of that comment, you're not welcome. That was my ultimate goal. I he did rig it. I think I think you were spot on Nick and I think the Kobe burger wasn't bad. It's not bad. I didn't I wouldn't.

I didn't want more than the quarter that I had of it. Yeah, it was and also rich, very rich, aggressively salty. I mean, they were both salty, but there's a lot of salt in the burger. That would have been too much. The bacon jam was what it was. I think that bacon jam was was just plus their Gruyere Gruyere. It was just so so hyper rich and the shack burger was just so accessible. And just it was like a fucking perfect classic burger.

It was so so good. It was a slam dunk. It was a slam dunk. Well, because he's a basketball. He's done. He's a dunker. Got it. Oh, that's what that was.

It was a slant. Oh, I was only thinking of a metaphorically. I didn't make the connection to basketball. Jesus. It's a slam dunk. Like she like shacky. It was a shack. It was a slam dunk.

Got it. Can I also say that I've never felt worse after a meal? I think that I might die. Well, you know what part of you will what might have part of been the reason of that is that we got ourselves a little bit of a dessert and that dessert was the banana pudding. Oh, yeah. And which was very heavy, but good.

But I was like, I don't like just that much. And then I went to the bathroom, came back and ate the entire second half of myself. You took some interesting bathroom breaks. You took one bathroom break just when the food arrived, which I haven't seen people do before. And then you take another bathroom break, mid dessert course. Like you had a couple bites of dessert, went to the bathroom and came back

and kept eating. Yeah, I was drinking. I was staying very hydrated because I probably was drunk from the one drink. You song's nightmare. Yeah. And I don't know. It's got to be more these days. I guess I'm just getting older.

Yeah, I got you. Well, Nature calls me. Thanks for thanks for shaming me. I'm not shaming you. I was just saying I'm not. See, this is why you stick with me. If anyone knows a good urologist, send it along with the tape of Palin and Glen Rice to joshisfetishes.com.

A Ventura 2 situation, Nick. Ace Ventura 2? Oh, yeah. When Nature calls. Oh, right. No, but this is right. I had talked shit about the banana pudding. The thing I said, which I think is true.

You could tell it wasn't. It wasn't like made that day. It felt like it had been sitting in there. It felt like it had saffron a little bit. It was tasty. It was we all we all noticed that it was a little too thick. It didn't have to be that thick. I wish it was creamier.

There was more vanilla wafers and then it was and that it wasn't as thick. It was it was like like like a like a foot. It was like 12 inches deep. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah. It was big. What, Wager?

What? You're smiling. I wasn't smiling. I said 12 inches deep. You want you want nuts? You went nuts. Nick went nuts. He jumped.

He's jumping up and down right now. He's taking his shirt off. He's spinning around. He's losing his fucking mind. What? Nothing. Nothing. You think because it's 12 inches deep that I'm going to talk about make some

sort of phallic reference that I'm going to talk about like I'm going to compare I talk about 12 inches in comparison to a penis. That's what you're that's what you're. I thought you're going to say you don't know what it's like to be 12 inches. You're you're you're a two inch deep man or something like that. I thought you're going to. I was thinking about something like that. That's why I say you were smiling.

I know, but I didn't say it. That's the whole point of this. You never call it out. You're smiling and laughing over there. I want to know what was in your sick fucking head. Well, Mitch, your dick fits in a bird's mouth. This is so we know it's an anecdote. Huge didn't happen.

I mean, birds mouths aren't that big. It did. The bird didn't take my dick. Well, you do admit to peeping on your mom. No, I didn't try not admitting to any of that. I just want to see what Nick was thinking in his head. The dessert arrived and you said I have to say they spilled it on us. The dessert.

They. Yeah, they did the dessert arrived and I said what you said? I'm going to see I'm going to test how deep this thing is exactly and you unzipped your pants and said no peeking. OK, I thought I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was just like, yeah, I agree with it. Just I didn't even make it to the cream. I think the I agree.

It just needed more to it besides just a big, thick, massive pudding. All right, let's get to our final ratings on Shaquille's. So there's a specific new rating system. That's right. This week for Shaq week because it's Shaq week. We're not going to rate out of our normal forks. As you know, Shaq's best friend is the general. So we will be rating from zero to five general stars.

Josh Weiner. Here's how this will work. We'll each go around. You will say your closing argument and then give it a zero to five star rating. We'll begin with you. Just food, three star experience, four star. What's your final score? Three, five.

Have you ever listened to three and a half? Three and a half. Three and a half stars, three and a half stars. Three and a half general stars. OK, three and a half general stars, three and a half general stars. You just get a stars is fine. It's totally fine. OK, three and a half general.

Never listen to this. I have listened. Don't listen. It's good. You shouldn't listen. No one should listen. I listen. You saw this right here.

You song. It's good. The show. You're meeting like he has records of everyone that listens. No, I'm not. You song. You song is an award worthy podcast. I listen to the goddamn podcast.

I listen to it at two times speed to check for edits. You song is. You song. Guess what? You should have told us that you can't do that no more. You go. Let's do it at regular speed. My man got to catch those mistakes, right, Nick?

I think maybe point five speed might be safer. Yeah, any of you who are listening to us at point five speed, let us know out there who like to listen longer. It will last a little longer. It's point five. Really? Option. Oh, yeah, it is.

Yeah. Nick, I enjoyed Shaquille's. I enjoyed our company. Mm hmm. Josh. It's the truth. It's the truth. You son of a bitch.

I enjoyed our company. I thought that the interior was fun. You made a good point. Best restaurant at LA live for sure. For sure. Which isn't necessarily saying a lot, but it's a great option if you're at LA live, which is there the sort of downtown entertainment complex.

I don't feel great now. No, me either. I really feel like shit. I feel like shit, really. This is one of the worst I've ever felt doing this pocket. Right. It's not a lie. Yeah.

And then and but at that same at the same time, I thought that they were doing a good job, especially for a restaurant that's only been open since January. I know. So it's about six, six months old now. I'm going to go. Nick, I'm going to go for general stars. Wow.

Four general stars. That's right. Four general stars. It's in the Golden General Star Club right now. Wow. The Golden General. The coveted Golden General Star Club. That's right.

For Shaq week. Mitch, I'm sorry. I said you look like Michael Moore. It's not true. Stop bringing it up. No, I'm sorry. I should. That was that was a causing a line.

I apologize. But you know who you look like? You look like Michael less. Fuck you. Like you look like Michael less. You look like a. You don't look like Michael. You look like Michael.

I look like Michael less. Still look like Michael Moore, but just. No. Michael before, you know, like Michael Morris before picture before he loses. You piece of shit. I let you put your leftovers in my fucking fridge. Yeah.

Those are never going out of there. I curse you again. Yeah. Oh yeah. Mitch cursed me. I forgot to. That was my curse. I curse wine or thicker.

Yeah. He's going to get pumped again. He's going to get pumped again. I will. I enjoy it. You know what? Fuck you. I enjoyed Shaquille's.

I had a nice time. You didn't respond. Okay. Oh, fuck you. I enjoyed Shaquille's at a nice time. I will say that they seemed. We went after the lunch rush. They seemed a little understaffed.

There were not a lot of people in the restaurant and it still took us a long time to get our courses and to get attention from the staff, even though I think they overall did a good job. It just felt like we didn't get enough check ins and it took a long time for things to come out. I think the quality of the things were good, but you know, hey, if we were there to go catch the Lakers on opening

night, we might not have made the opening tip. No way. Because it took so long for us to get their food, especially, maybe it's better when it's busier, but that took a long, long time to get everything. And that was a thing we didn't really touch on in our view, but I will say that in my closing thoughts, we were there for so long.

We're there for way too long. That said, the food overall was good quality. I hoping as the restaurant continues to iterate, it will get more efficient and will, you know, streamline their menu perhaps a little bit, rotate out some of the ones that don't work as well, throw in some more new favorites. But I think it's a good, good upscale Southern restaurant. And I think it's, I had a blast there and I would go back.

And for that reason, I am also going to give it four general stars. Whoa. You kept it from the Golden Generals Club there, liner. I don't care. We should also mention that Shaquille O'Neal was sitting with us the whole time. That's right.

He was there. We forgot to mention that, but he was nice. He's a nice guy. I mean, he was primarily just using icy hot on his, on his hammy. Yeah. But he was a, yeah, he was, he was, he was a delight. Okay.

Hey, that was our review of Shaquille's. And since it's Shaq week, we've got a Shaq to be clear by hammy. Nick means this big cut of hair. Yeah. He had a giant. Yeah. He was putting icy hot spiral.

It was a ham, right? It was a ham. Yeah. The birthday boy sketch. That's right. Hey, hell yeah. You know what? Thank you.

We should have put you in ham hat. All right. That's what I was hankling towards. That's what you wanted. Oh boy. What Nick? I'm just exhausted. I know it's a good episode.

Keep it going. This isn't a good episode. It is. I think it is. What do you mean? It's not a good episode. I'm offended. Josh is great.

Oh, wow. Good. Good job. This is like when you told my mom that you sang didn't have a good night's sleep there. He didn't have a good night's sleep. I know what you shouldn't tell my the host. He couldn't sleep as an idiot.

His throat was dry as a bone because he was too scared to drink water and have to use your toilet. And you barging in all night. Hey, you want to go take a peek? I know we have those big Michael more sized toilets at my house that you songs afraid is going to fall into. You song was fine. This episode is good.

You owe both of them an apology. Okay. Are you okay? You song? Can I just say something? Yeah. This is like back when you guys were saying how long you were there.

And this is not related to anything now. Are you going to say that you were sitting in your car outside my house? Well, that is true. You guys thought that you were going to be there for four quarters, but you were there for overtime. That's good. Yeah.

All right. The episode is good. Yeah. It's good now. Maybe you think the episode is good. Yeah, I like that. I will. I agree with you.

It did make it and made it just as good as it already was. We've got a Shaq theme food stuff. We're going to decide if it's worthy of the man they call the big Aristotle. It's the first ever Shaq or whack. He does got skills on the mic. He does have skills in the court, but does he got skills? This is when it comes to Papa John's pizza.

I've never wanted to eat something less. I'm actually now mad at you. And I do think it's a bad episode. As I got skill or as I'm sorry, his song is I got skills. I want to say now that's the second rapper Mitch has ever heard aside from Marky Mark. He confessed he had this. He had snows and former on tape.

Hold on a second. Hold on a second. We were in the restaurant. Yes. And can I kick it? Yes, you came on. And by who Mitch, a tribe called Quest. Okay.

I told you that I knew that you fool. Okay. And then what did Nick Weigher think it was? I thought it was because I just I only recognized the sample. I didn't realize that there was a that was a rap song. I thought it was the Lou Reed song. God walk on the wild side. Oh boy.

You so you make fun of me for not knowing any rap. Well, because you still wish. No, it's more fun to make fun of Mitch. I didn't say that. She's love. Marky Mark. I don't love Mark Mark. Mark Mark's a piece of shit.

This is so this came in this. He was nice to me on the Fox off, but he is still a piece of shit. Oh my God. He was nice to me. Now I will. I drove by him in a car. Definitely throwing up over here. I drove by anyone.

Hey, nice jacket. This is sick. Is that a red sauce jacket? I said, hey, thank you. I kept driving. That's nice. He was nice, but he's a piece of shit anyways. So here's what it is.

Shaq has invested in Papa Johns. He owns a number of franchises. This is on you. This makes no sense. He's on the Papa Johns board of directors now. He's becoming a spokesperson. He was brought on to rehab the image in the aftermath of Papa John Snotter's infamous downfall for racist language.

And Shaq is trying to to boost the brand. And as you may know, if you watch inside the NBA, Shaq has a thing he says, which is barbecue chicken. And so we have some Papa John's barbecue chicken pizza. Jesus. And we're going to see this torture. I was like, do we have to get barbecue chicken pizza? And why I was like, yeah.

I don't know. I'm trying to come up with something. Which by the way, if you remember, there was a little break earlier in the episode about 60 minutes ago. That was when the pizza arrived. What did you want me to do? We were recording the show. Order it at a time when it would come.

Order it during the show. Order it 30 minutes later than you did. Like stop the show and be like, hey, I'm going to stop the show anyways. Here's what I was going to say. All right, we're fighting. The reason we did this. Weiner. You were sitting on the couch.

We got back from the restaurant. Nick's like figuring out. Excuse me. Excuse me. This is fucking bullshit. Excuse me. During our pizza tournament, I fucking ordered all that shit on the app. Well, I don't know.

I don't know about no pizza tournament. I know that we came back. Nick's trip figuring out. You know what? You were sitting on my couch. Excuse me. I should have let you sit on the fucking floor. Excuse me.

Nick was figuring out cover ways to tie in shack. You were on the couch. Oh, I got to do this mattress commercial. Nick, you know, it comes in a box. You know these mattresses coming in a box? There's a mattress coming in a box. Look, this has nothing to do with the whole show. I'm just saying Nick was trying to fucking figure it out.

You were complaining about the money you're making. You piece of shit. Here's what I got. Here's what I got. Logger's on cloud nine right now. I was trying to figure out how I see it. I was trying to figure it out to save your ass because you didn't get the shack drinks you were supposed to.

The seven... No, no, hold on a second. There was a soda shack that you were supposed to get for the podcast. No. We didn't get it. So I tried to figure out a solution. I came up with this torture premise. I told you that there were shack...

There were shack... That there were shack soda shacks at 7-Eleven. Yes. Which there were. We went there together. They're gone. Yeah. The soda shacks are gone.

And you need it. We didn't need to have a shack snack for fuck's sake. It's shack week. I like it. I like that you spent time and effort on me. Thank you. I would have liked to have tried... That's not like Chinatown.

Forget it, Mitch. It's shack week. I thought the soda shack was a good idea. Shacks trying to cut off water into the valley. It's a bummer that the 7-Eleven didn't have them. We maybe should have looked for it in advance and that's not just on you. We tried to figure something out. Look, I'm only trying to give it a hard time.

Not to reiterate. When you were actually trying to... Oh, shut up, Weiner. You were bitching on the couch about your mattress in a box. Oh, first of all, no. I wasn't bitching about the mattress in a box. Second of all, what are you doing? Third of all, when we were in the car, you told me...

Me and you were peers, but I actually like... Nick is a mentor. This is fucking sick bullshit. Everyone we came up with was like, yeah, Nick's like the best. Your mentor's a fucking door. I don't know. Everyone we accomplished said Nick's the best writer. Without a doubt, there's no question about it.

Oh, wow, wow. That's not true. It was true. Okay. So we got this barbecue chicken pizza. I'm just trying to give it to you because this looks like hell. It doesn't look like fucking dog shit. It doesn't look great.

And by the way, we should mention that this was the Spider-Man pizza. This is the Spider-Man far from home pizza. Shaq famously named Superman. We take my side now and say fuck you to him. No. Because I never knew. I mean, we all knew what it was going to be. Fuck.

Fuck. How does this Marvel pizza align with this DCC pizza? You asshole. That is by far the worst fucking pizza I've ever had in my life. This is terrible. Even fresh out of the oven. That would be disgusting. And the barbecue sauce is like jelly.

It's like... Oh, fuck. Fuckers jam. It's fucking awful. The chicken is really poor quality, too. That's like unfrozen chicken breast. That's fucking... Uncompletely unseasoned.

That's fucking awful. All right. So Shaq or whack? I've forgotten how good Shaquille's was now. This is awful. It's good to eat shitty food after a good food and be reminded. That's a whack for me. It doesn't even touch Shaq level.

That's a whack. It's whack. You know, we're hoping that Papa John's under the leadership of Papa Shaq turns a corner. But as of right now, it's still in the doldrums. At least this individual location. That was truly awful. Yeah, not worth the other big Aristotle. No.

And Papa John's does not have skills in reference to pizza preparation. I blame Peyton Manning. What's that? I blame Peyton Manning. You know what this one is? We should blame this on Peyton Manning. Yeah. Fuck you, Peyton.

Yeah. Is that the issue that this chicken is just loaded with HGH? Everything about it is the worst. Where do we start? Well, that was Shaq or whack. Except to his wife's house. And his wife's house. That's what happened.

That's what came to his... Didn't it come to his wife? It came to his wife. Yeah. Wait, is that Clemens? I thought it was. No, I think Peyton Manning. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, Peyton Manning. But that is also what Roger Clemens did. Yeah. But I think he was also doing straight steroids, right? Yeah, and shooting Andy Pettit in the ass. Oh, look, everyone's juicing. Juicing's fine. Just like a restaurant.

I'm pro drug use in professional sports. Actually, I... Who gives a shit? If you took a vote, I don't think fans would care. Yeah, who gives a shit? I think all players should be allowed to juice. Fruits and veggies, that is. Just like a restaurant, buy your feedback.

Let's open up the feedback. Today's email comes to us from Adam A. in Los Angeles. Adam writes, I would still like to learn from you. I forget which episode. They all come so fast that the Meat La Café, the restaurant that Glenn Bell cribbed the menu items from to create Taco Bell, is still operational in San Bernardino.

God, I got some fucking... Oh, yeah, me too. ...Hawkeye John's cut in my teeth. That's fucking terrible. I have the taste. Oh, God. That's really bad. Just a tongue of just like tepid barbecue sauce.

Now, let me do a deep dive on Taco Bell's website where, in their history section, I learned that in the 2012 Taco Bell helicopter, the ingredients for 10,000 Doritos Locos Tacos to Bethel, Alaska, after they had been pranked into thinking a Taco Bell was opening. Pretty epic. That got me thinking, what's your favorite large-scale chain restaurant publicity stunt? I know Jack in the Box does their free Lakers Tacos,

and there's other things of that ilk, but I'm thinking epic on the scale of a helicoptering 10,000 Tacos to Alaska. Taco Bell is obviously on the forefront of this with things like the Cantina and now the Vegas Resort or whatever the fuck. The Colonel repelled down a building in Chicago, you know? Cool shit. Like that. I don't know if you guys have anything that came to mind,

but I wrote down a few, and one of which was a place we went to. You wrote down a few, eh? Yeah, I did. Because I was like, oh, this is kind of a... This is maybe a tough question to have an off-the-cuff answer to, but I figured we could spark some conversation.

It's just because you can't write. It doesn't mean you should... Other people should be allowed to. Well, the question beforehand, my friend, neither did you. Forehand? Let's see what you got. We'll see what you got in a second.

All right, Nick. Eihob. Eihob was... When they actually transformed the restaurants, which they did a couple of, I thought that was kind of fun. Now, it was dumb, but it was like, as stunts go,

it definitely did the job. I got it. I have an answer, and I didn't even look it up. Yes. When the Simpsons turned 7-11 into a quickie mark. That was a blast, and I went to the quickie marks,

and that was a lot of fun. Well, I guess on that note, I know that it's... A poo is... A lot of people don't like a poo. There's some problems with that poo. A poo poo. A poo poo, that character.

A poo poo him, but that promotion was... I never... Like people pulling over and taking pictures of it, that was fun. That was a lot of fun. You go inside, Jasper was in the freezer. They have...

On the Homer Donuts, they're still there. Homer Donuts have become a staple of 7-11. That's right. Yeah. Did you have one, Josh? Well, I guess kind of on that note, what Scoops Ahoy with what Baskin Robbins is doing with Stranger Things...

Oh, yes. They have the upside down Sunday. You're a Stranger Things enthusiast. Oh, yeah, I really enjoyed Season 3. I thought that was a lot of fun, and yeah, and I noticed... I haven't been to it, because I'm kind of a health nut,

but they've changed. But the Baskin Robbins are Scoops Ahoy, which was the ice cream store in Season 3. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah, because... Oh, and so do they have an upside down... They have an upside down Sunday from...

So I imagine they have... I've seen in the commercial. Oh, circling back to Shaq, I said to you guys, I was first a little disappointed, not as many themed menu items. Yeah. But then I'm like, you know what, good for them

for not being such a shit show. Right. Yeah. You want a magic brownies or something. I think that would be fun. I was insulted there was not a magic Johnsonite. Yeah. That would have been nice.

Nick, did you have the Simpsons 7-11 thing down, written down or no? I didn't have that one written down. That's a good one. Here are a few more that I'll just speed through. Taco Bell bought the Liberty Bell, if you remember that at one point, or they said they were going to buy the Liberty Bell.

What? Yeah, that was a stunt they did. There was the left-handed Whopper, which was kind of a cheeky thing. And people actually bought it. One I like from Burger King, aside from the left-handed Whopper, they had a series of video games,

Sneaking, Big Bumpin' and Pocket Bike Racer, which all came out. They were playable for Xbox. You could buy them for $1.99 a piece, I think. And they were like, they sucked, but it was just kind of a fun, a little promotion to actually release games featuring the king.

But here's one that I remember, and I wonder how many people will remember this one. Bob's big boy at one point killed the big boy. That's crazy. They had a vote for whether or not the big boy was going to go to hell or go to heaven. And I think, yeah, they eliminated the big boy's statue from the signage,

and they got rid of him for a little bit. Did he go to hell or heaven? I don't remember, but then he came back. I just remember voting. I don't remember where his final destination was. That's pretty fun. Yeah. You lingered in purgatory a little bit,

and then he came back. Do you think there were any mums who were like, I got you an Xbox game. I got you Sneak King accidentally. 100%. I mean, there was also probably people who could only afford the Sneak King game, which is probably a reality of the situation.

But also... Also some deadbeat dads who went in there and were getting their fucking long chicken sandwich from Burger King and having it with like a fucking Bartels and James, they brought Snuck into fucking Travel Mug. It's like the scene from Sideways, where you stick the wine in the burger place.

Yeah. And they're just like, it's my kid's birthday. Fuck, can I get one of those Burger King games? You're probably right. But yeah. You know what? This Spider-Man promotion, I saw the new Spider-Man.

Also, I think it's whack. It's not a shack. It's a whack. Wow. But it's not as bad as the pizza tasted. This pizza tasted worse than the movie was. This pizza was one of the worst... This is one of the worst pizzas I've ever had.

This is worse than Spider-Man Far From Home, you're saying? Yes, 100%. Keep this far, far away from your home. I can't get over how bad that was. It's fucking awful. It's truly awful. This is a fucking wrecking pizza. I think we all took the smallest bite possible.

Yeah. Slammed our plates down. It's sort of erasing how good the meal... The shack's meal is. Yes. This is a pain pizza. They should not offer this combination. And they should close Papa John's.

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Josh Weiner. Thank you so much for joining us for Shack Week. Thank you for joining us for a lovely meal at Shaquille's. A four hour, five hour day. We spent way too much time together. Nick. But you are a prince. Nick.

Thank you so much. Do you have anything you would like to plug, Josh? God. I don't know. My Instagram. It's Joshua Weiner. I had a pic with Mitch. I'm trolling him.

Well, even Boston is my car fragrance. Yeah. Hopefully I'll have a narrative podcast on Audible soon. Who knows? Musty A ceramics. That's it. Check them all out. Check all that out.

Check out Audible ceramics. We're going to have to hug before you leave. Sure. All right. Again, Nick, thank you so much. Mitch says it to every guest. God. God damn it.

All right. End the podcast for God's sakes. That'll do it. By the way, you're taking that fucking pizza with you. I'm not taking this pizza with me. Yeah, you are. We'll throw in the trash. You throw in the trash, you find.

I don't want it. I don't even want it in my trash. Trash. What do you call your bed, Mitch? What the fuck? You know, there's a dumpster downstairs. I'll take it downstairs in the dumpster. You're taking it with you.

I'm not taking it with me. You're taking it with you. I'm taking the train. I'm taking the train. Take out your steam train. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Hey, you saw.

People just dump in costume. Like Collar Nick won't do any of the fucking grunt work. I'll do it. I'll get rid of the pizza. I order the pizza. Won't do anything grunt work. I order the pizza. All right.

Why Collar Nick? Well, not like me. I like blue column. Blue boy pillionette. End the fucking podcast. You know what color my collar is? Purple and gold. Because I'm a fan of the Los Angeles Lakers.

The team that's Shaquille O'Neal brought three final NBA championships to. I bought you a cool ass Lakers jacket. You never wear it. It's pretty cool. I feel I feel- Do you give it away? No, I still have it.

It's a little warm. And then it also has other pack- Oh, for fuck's sake. It's just a little warm for me. What? And on the back has what? It has like patches for all the championships. And it's like kind of like it's a little ostentatious.

That's what my jacket was. And also it doesn't. That's my jacket. You're confusing it. No, I'm not thinking- You don't have a Lakers jacket. No, I have a Celtics jacket that has all that. Oh, yeah, that's a Celtics jacket.

Oh, God. I bought you a nice Lakers jacket. It was a nice jacket. You never wear it. I do miss those old starter jackets from the 80s. Those were the best. This is not that. This is the nicer jacket.

Well, I'm not interested in that. I'm talking about the 80s starter jacket. Your time has been through. This is, oh, God. You know what this podcast needs? An Ender jacket. That'll do it for this episode of Dough Boys. Until next time for the Spoon Man and Mike Mitchell.

Oops, I'm sorry. Mike Spoon Mitchell. That's better. Happy eating. See ya. And no peeking. Go Celtics. Doughboy.

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