Doughboys - Sidecar Doughnuts with David Wain

Episode Date: September 14, 2023

David Wain joins the 'boys to talk New York eats and The Muppets before celebrating the 10-year anniversary of Sidecar Doughnuts with a review. Plus, the first and final edition of Foodini.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at doughboys.kinshipgoods.comSources for this week's intro:wgacontract2023.orgsagaftra.orgSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hey, buddy, it's Wigger. So as the WGA and SAG After Strikes have continued, I started waiting to record these non-intro intros until like the day before release. I guess just out of some vague hope that we'll have a resolution, and then I can do a proper scripted intro. But obviously that hasn't happened. So, you know, I was talking about this with somebody else. The sort of pro business supply cider, Wall Street boot liquor, sort, loves to talk about the cold logic of the free market. Like it's this pure objective instrument that only cares about economic efficiency.

But there's nothing logical about losing $500 million due to the strikes when if you just agreed to all of the WJA's demands that would cost you about $50 million as it's happened with Warner Bros Discovery, you know? But there's nothing logical when you whine about having your feelings hurt because you've been justifiably portrayed as the bad guy

as we've seen with some of these CEOs. There's nothing logical about sacrificing your company's core business,, not just now, but like in the next year. What movies are going to come out next year? Where's the fall television lineup going to be? You're doing this purely out of spite or because you're scrambling to save faces, you take the L. These things aren't logical.

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Rose Spoon Man at Gmail.com. What's the fountain head about? I don't know, that shit. No. I read one, I read it in Iyn Rand, novella when I was in high school. I think it was, and that's the only thing I've ever read. I think it was called Anthem.

It was really bad. It's like this writing is fucking wretched. Even as a ninth grader, it's like this is terrible. I and Rand, her name is just hard to say for me. I feel like it's always tough to remember how to say I and Rand. Because you want to say I and Rand. Yeah. Yeah. So I just kind of stay away from it all together, I guess. That's my reasoning. Anyways, hi, welcome to the show. I mean, you do have deeply held libertarian beliefs. Yeah, I just don't like it. I'm round the writer. That too.

I love all those, I love all the libertarian. Yes. It's Rand Paul named for Iron Rand. That's really embarrassing. He might be. Yeah. He's a piece of shit, dude, right? Yeah, no one likes that guy.

All right. See, I know who's bad. Yeah. I don't want to do this right now. We have a great guest. I want to say, how to hello to Spoon Nation. Although I do want to say, man, our segment for today is who's bad. So get ready for that.

Oh, God, God. I'm gonna have to return to this. Emma, will you play a drop? Let's just get all the embarrassing stuff over with, which is the entire episode of our show. No, I can't relate to Shrek in a lot of ways. He's right about a lot of stuff. I mean, some body wants to tell me the world

is gonna roll me. I ate the sharpest spoon in the shed. Oh, wow. She was looking kind of dumb with her fingers and her thumb up blue dog's ass. I don't like that story. I know. You love it. No, no I don't. Okay.

Come up blue dog's ass. What is that? No, it wasn't. Blue dog. We were talking about Sublime and Brad Noel used to put his finger up Lou dogg. Like he'd be on the boardwalk. He'd be like, hey, check this.

Like he'd see like an attractive lady. And be like, check this out when he put his thumb in Lou dogg's ass. Yes. That's what that's from. I mean, I love the bands of blind. I don't mean to smirk this dead man's name, but that's what that's from. I mean, I love the bands of blind. I don't mean to smurch this dead man's name, but that's what he would do.

Not a sublime song. What? The Shrek song. That's not sublime. Yeah, I know the Shrek song isn't sublime. I mean, just kind of like throwing a sublime reference in there, if you'll pass it on. Yeah, they just at the end, they threw in a sub...

Yeah, they mixed it up, Nick. It was a... Who made that drop? Do they think that song's by sublime? I don't know, they maybe think it's by sublime. The title is Shrek this out with exclamation points 23 seconds long in parentheses. Mitch made your drop that really pushed the ratio of effort versus outcome at s g h bro on Twitter. If anyone likes reading a single shitty tweet once every six months have a good good day, much love, pal.

Yeah, labor intensive to pull out individual words and assemble those into a lyric, existing lyric. Trek's been gone for a while now. Trek's got to come back. Yeah, it shouldn't come back. Imagine what like, Trek IV would do right now. Are they up to four? They're on four. Because I saw Puss and Boots.

I saw the Puss and Boots movie. Yeah. Which I was great. And the crowd is fucking, they're fucking hot for the Shrekiverse man. They're ready to go. Do you know why issue with Shrek is, I think that he should become handsome at the end.

I know that that's not what the movie is about. He did. That happens in Shrek too. I know what he realized. He looks, that would bring happiness to him. He looks good. I want to end too. He looks good. I think he looks good as a human. Looks like you. That's what he realized he looks that would bring happiness to him. He looks good. I want it in two. He looks good

I think he looks good as a human looks like you. That's what he like about it As a human he looks like. Yeah, he does. I don't look like the ogre. Thank you. All right. No, you're a handsome guy Thank you. Yeah, I think you look like you do look like human shrek them All right, let's do a good. Yes, that the whole thing, the women are shooting for him. The princesses are throwing themselves all over her. Yeah, all over him. That's what happens. Let me tell you, what happens with the spoon, man? Let's not.

My mom and sister are just in town. My mom and sister are here for two weeks. And we know what, we got some stuff organized. That's great. Yeah, yeah what, we got some stuff organized. That's great. Yeah. Oh, glad to hear it. I threw away like, I like finally got rid of the dress

I wore in pretty dad, a sketch we did 15 years ago. Oh, thought you should have put that up. I know. I didn't even see it. I didn't want to hide that side. I didn't want to get rid of it either. Was that in that, was that on a stage sketch, or was that for the one from?

It was for the show. It was for the show, for the IFC show. And my mom was like, what happened in the sketch? And I'm like, my son gets stuff for prom and I dress up as his prom day and then suck his dick. You said all of that? I said, explain the whole thing, you told your mom.

He told your mom that you suck your son's dick and a skat. And she's like, you can get rid of this. So I got rid of it. Anyways, we should introduce our guest. Our guest today, very, very excited to have him in the studio here for the podcast, David Wayne. Hi, David. Hi.

Next to making time for us. I love being here. I try to come to be on your show every couple of weeks. Okay. Well, glad we could make it happen this particular week. I want to ask you about because about your history a little bit because your first time on the show sounds like the both of you have your thumbs up Lou Dobbs ass. Another bad man for a bad man segment.

Lou Dobbs. Oh, Lou Dobbs. Bad guy. Yeah. I want to ask you a little bit about growing up in Ohio, because Ohio like, you know, and fuck, have we been there once? We did it once. We just show Cleveland.

What part, yeah, Cleveland is where I'm from. Yeah, okay. We did a show in Cleveland. Cincinnati wants us to come. We did not do culverts in Cleveland. Oh, no. No, we did the... Swenson's. Oh, I'm sorry, not culverts. Swenson's. We did Swenson's. We had a lovely culverts in Cleveland. Oh no. No, we did the... Swenson's.

Oh, I'm sorry, not culbers. Swenson's, thank you. We did Swenson's. We had a lovely meal with Swenson. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Swenson's great. Yeah, Swenson's was great. Well, they had a Swenson's in Coral Gables, Florida,

where my sister was going to college when I was like 10. Wow. And I was so enamored with Swenson's. I loved it. And then now they have a new one in Ohio, yeah. Lovely time there. And also, roller skaters, the roller skaters skaters, they're roll, they don't, they roll skate right to your car, they give you the tray

on your window like in the 50s. Yeah. My memory of it, Mitch, we were there on tour and the, it was raining, right? Is that correct? Yes, I was driving. You were driving, it was raining and they were roller skating in the rain

and it weren't missing a beat and it brought us our meal and it's a place place we eat in your car and I loved it. It's a great meal. I wish I could remember the name. I was driving in the rain. I was doing a pretty good job too. I just want to point that out as well. And they'll go because in Cleveland it's often snowy and cold but they'll still bring you ice cream outside. That's a thing cold climates like cold drinks and they realize that like ice cream outside. That's a thing. Cold climates like cold drinks. And they realize that like ice cream sales are bigger in like cold weather states, which is a surprise.

Like culverts who everyone in Wisconsin will get mad at me for fucking that up. But I like we like Swenson's a lot too. We got a fried baloney sandwich was like a big thing there. And that's 70s quality on the interior is usually. Yeah, we drove by Dayton, Ohio, day Ferguson's home. That's right. Was in my sketch group. And he's a big skyline chili.

Are you a skyline chili fan? Great question. I don't even know skyline chili. Wow. That's a. It's more of a Cincinnati thing. Right? Yeah, there's a whole Cincinnati thing.

It was a different Cincinnati may as well be a southern city. It's on the border of Kentucky. Mm-hmm. Whereas Cleveland, Ohio is on America's North Coast on Lake Erie and we're more part of the steel belt. Mm-hmm. Wow, okay. Because we did that on the was that after a Chicago show we did anything because where we I don't know. I can't remember the order of operations in terms of touring the Midwest. All I know is that I follow the Swenson's Instagram account and I occasionally see a Swenson's thing pop up. I got I got buried in the Swenson's menu for a second while we were talking because

I was just going going down memory. It's such a rabbit hole. We all have gone down that rabbit hole many times. It's unavoidable. The founded by Wesley Pop Swenson, but this is a thing I'm remembering now, Mitch. Their burger is called the Galley Boy. That's right.

The Galley Boy. What a name. It's a little bit creepy. It does. I think we should have the Galley Boy on the show. It should be like a character. I now realize both of my sisters actually worked at Swenson's.

Wow. That's amazing. Were they roller skating? No, I don't think it was the Skating Swenson's. Wow. Yeah. That's amazing. Were they roller skating? No, I don't think it was the skate in Swenson's. Got it. Gallyboy does sound like a chrysalient movie. Gallyboy, you didn't hear Gallyboy. It's time for my morning fluff.

So, okay, so what are the foods that make you think of all outside of of Swenson's? Oh my goodness, Slimeins corn beef. Slimeins corn beef. Cleveland, Ohio. Oh my gosh. It's called Slimeins. Yes, SLY, MA, the best corn beef in the world. I know it from growing up. I haven't had it in years to be honest. Yeah. And the West Side Market in Cleveland is a huge old, old market with, you know, butchers and fish mongers and stuff like that.

That's cool. And stuff like that, deli, corkian, Lenis was the deli that we went to, which was great. Sands, deli, cattess. And I guess that's, yeah, that's what I think of in Cleveland and diners. So a big diner, deli culture, didn't it? Yeah. It's like, you know, work a man's town.

Sure. Yeah. Not me, but. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I like that. No, that's it. Yeah, that's right. I gotta tell you though, the restaurant in Manhattan, there was, anyway, called Edwards, and they used to have a Cincinnati, Ohio night, every month, because he was from Cincinnati, and they would serve that chili you talked about. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Did you go and you were like, I'm from Ohio? I never went to it, but because my wife at the time worked there, and that's the end of that story. Wow. I have a question for you.

Do you remember your first New York slice? Ooh, well, I was always sort of faster with New York from when I was born. I just, I, as a kid, I was like, I want to go where there's the muppets and I want to go where Saturday night live is. And so I went there probably when I was eight and had a slice and I, I'm sure I loved it. But then I, when I got to college, I lived in the village where NYU is and I had a whole map of where I thought the best slices were and I just was never shutting up about it. It was your own map?

Well, yeah. I think I drew it out at points or I would draw it for, if someone asked me about pizza, I would sit them down and draw a map of here's where to get the best pizza, here's where to get the best bagels, you know. So you're like, there's this place in Staten Island or you can go over to the Bronx. Oh no, but all over there. I was very village centric. Got it, okay, it was all in the village.

It was all in the village. But you could have been theoretically been like, there's one in Manhattan, there's another one in Queens. But I was so sure that I was right that these are the best in the whole city having never ventured out of the village. Right, that makes sense. I made you a map.

There was like Tiki theaters on it, like a few other. Although one time, like, I don't know, 15, 20 years ago, there was this cab driver who would take you on a food tour of the five burrows. Did you ever get all that rules? And he was this weirdo cab driver and you would go and he would take you to the places

you never would go to, like way far out there. And you'd be like, try this weird fried Oreo or try this, you know, this thing that you can only get here and it was really cool. Wow. I feel like we should. I'd like to take this. Yeah. I'd be like, I'd been a man at and certainly spent some time in Queens. I've been to Brooklyn, but very little in the Bronx and certainly I've never said

foot on statin' islands. I hope to see all five burrows. That island's crazy place. I've heard this. Yeah, it's wild. It's cool. We had it, we had no, Mitch, we had, we were in San Diego and certainly I've never said foot on statinites. I hope to see all five burrows. That island's crazy place. I've heard this. Yeah, it's wild. It's cool. We had it, we had no, Mitch, we had, we were in San Diego and we had a driver, do you remember?

We're taking a, we got a ride over to, Oh, you're talking about the, the weird car door driver guy? We weren't in this because you drove separately. You drove, you missed out on this Uber ride where we talked to the driver who had moved to San Diego from Staten Island and he was talking about how Staten Island was weird and he liked San Diego better Yeah, I would do you and you are with a Nuss remember Amelia the weird door Remember what I'm talking about a weird door. Oh

We think of Narnia Remember the Uber we got in and had the door, it had the suicide door that came down. Oh, God, thank God. No, wait, no, I don't remember this. Oh, fuck, shit, I happened, it happened. We've all been through a suicide door. I got a couple questions.

Do you still remember like a couple of your favorite pizza spots and then that's one question. Then second is, do you got a Muppet's ranking? I guess Muppet's ranking could be a lot of different. I was a member. I was a card game member. The Muppet fan club is a little kid. Whoa. And I think Beaker was the one that I like, my pick.

I had a poster beaker. Is this an old school? Because I was in a Nintendo fun club and you would get like a membership part. Yeah, you get a card. This was that era of like stuff. Yeah, you get like something, they send you something every month.

It was usually made of paper, but it was great. Yeah, it's kind of like. Nintendo fun club seems weirder. I got Nintendo power every month. Before that was the Nintendo fun club. You got a little magazine. Yeah, you got a magazine, yeah. Yeah, it was pretty awesome. I loved being a member of the fan club. Beaker Beaker was your top guy. I think I real and Bunsen honeydew. I love that whole.

They're great duo. He's never Nick has never seen the Muppet movie, which is a top top movie. Muppets are a huge pop culture blind spot for me. I watched on the podcast for we watched Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island. I love Muppet Treasure Island. I thought that was real hoot. And actually worked for the Jim Henson company on a project on a show called Earth and Ned that was on Disney Plus, but like the Muppet

and his selves, I don't know. I don't know. For our listeners. But here you are promoting a show and the unions are gonna get really a lot of fun. Busted. You got a Muppet and you got a Muppet unions are gonna get really a lot of fun. Busted. You got a fucking busted. The statement of fact.

You fucking busted. Yeah, you know. Didn't say I had a favorite muppet or anything. I don't have a muppet. The show was really, and Sesame Street before that, but I loved, I used to get like giddy when it was almost seven o'clock time for the muppet show every Saturday night

or whenever it was. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, I was so into it. What's your favorite Muppet property? Property, I think over on Lossianniga. Okay, you were right. Right, that's where I was working. That's a great spot.

Yeah, there are the Likandos there right now. And I just think they've done a really good job in monetizing that over the years. Is there a, okay, so like, but like, did you like, was the Muppet TV show? Was it, or was it the Muppet movie? Like, what's the, I think it was the TV show for some, I think, you know why? Because it was in the era when we first had a beta max.

Oh, sure. And so I would tape those shows and watch them over and over and over. And especially the one with Chloris Leechman as the guest where the, I mean, it was a pig's in space episode and they got trapped in the basement and it was just, I loved it. I know. A football team used to make me do Kermit impressions. I'm not good at it anymore.

Uh-huh. Since my voice changed, but that was, I was a big Kermit. Well, you could try. I can't, I really can't do it at all. I really can't do it at all. You know, it saves something like that without. I can't, I can do, I used to be able to do animal

from the Muppet babies pretty well. Okay, okay. Okay, so I did watch Muppet babies. That's one thing you did. That's right. So yeah, for me, that was like, I'm not, that doesn't feel wrong to me. So I never watched it.

Yeah, I think I liked it because it was a cartoon. And at the puppets, I felt like unnerved me. Right. Because it's a nerve. Yeah, but as an adult, I can understand. But like, you know, as a kid, like, you just have a kid. I was fascinated, but I even set up my own, because I loved watching the 60-minute segment where they went backstage at the Muppets.

And then I set up my own thing where I could stand fully upright and then hold up the puppet above my head and then have the camera also at a high level so that I could pretend that I was a Muppet performer. That was my dream at the time. That's so cool. That's cool. Wow. That's cool. Wow. Yeah, that's cool.

Of course, I could have pursued it, but I didn't. I feel like the Muppet, I think you made the, I think you made the trite choice. No, I'm doing great. I'm doing it. That's not, who's kidding who? Yeah, I don't think you need the, and I, and I think we're long past me doing the impression now too.

So I think that we've all forgotten about it. What do you think, Nick? If we forgotten about his thing about mentioning that he can do a permanent impression, I mean, I tell you just brought it up right now. I had no idea. Completed my mind. Okay. So you're saying I went to New York.

That's right. So you're New York. And the bitch got you on Muppet hierarchy, but I'm curious about like the pizza. Yeah, because you had this pizza map. Great Muppet Caper. Also Muppets are in New York, but right. So that's a guy crossover. Well, you know, a lot of the thing in New York at the time was it's all about raised pizza.

And we're talking about raised pizza. Bapiness raised. There was a lot of confusion because a lot of pizza places named themselves Rays. And did they have it out here with Tommy's? Right, and they had famous Rays and original famous Rays, famous original Rays, and they were all different. And the original real actual first Rays was called

Rays Pizza on Prince Street, or just Rays on Prince. And that was by some accounts, or maybe Lombardy's on spring, was the first pizza at all in New York. And the kind of pizza we eat in the US is actually invented in New York, maybe, at the world's fair. Yeah, wow.

I'm making some of this up. Or at least I don't remember which parts I made up and which parts might be true. But the, my go-to was Joe's pizza on Carmine and Blaker. And then there was the one called Ben by Frank's pizza, which was on like third street in Thompson, and that was really, really good. And I like it. And by Frank's. It was called Ben by Frank's. Maybe the name Ben? Yeah, my guess is that it was called Ben's pizza And then maybe he sold it to Frank. Yeah, and or something. I don't know And there were a few others I just I mean, and they I liked the big the classic, you know foldable

Yeah, thin slice. I just you know what? Yeah, I did a pizza tour with some of my Quincy friends and we went to New York And we went to DeFarras and we went to Joe's. We had Joe's late night. The one near the comedy seller? Is that the one? Yep. And that was a huge hit. I loved Joe's and it was like a late night slice and it was great.

There's one near Times Square that I had when I was there most recently when we did a show there. That's right. Did they have, wait, is Joe's, there are Joe's out here. I think it's the same thing. Same thing. Same thing. Same thing. Same's the same thing the same thing the same company But they as they say the water's different the water is different

Yeah, that's why Larry King got the water with his river. He got the water Yeah, he got it shipped in but the Joe's pizza out here is pretty good But the the thing about it is the foot traffic. That's why it's so good is because they're always crowded And they're always hot and they're always coming out and you go to those classic places, and you're like one plane and then it's the whole feel of it. It's great. I will say as someone who lived in his entire life

in LA County, when I went to New York for the first time and I went as an adult, the notion of just walking into a place and like they give you a slice of pizza on a paper plate, like that was a complete novelty to me. Like, there are places like here that do that out here, but it's not the same sort of thing. And so, like, pizza by the slice was like a revelation. Well, I will tell you, when I lived in New York,

first of all, I was 30 pounds heavier, and partly was because whenever I went from point A to point B, I would just pick up stuff and eat it along the way, and it was so easy to do, and so much great food. And I loved it. I was so amazingly. And then here I've gone, I get super hungry because you have to stop and park and think in order and it takes forever. More walking in New York, though, right? It feels, I feel like it will be good for me in that way. You gotta

get out. Yeah. You gotta get on the streets. You're always moving. It's just the best. I'm walking here from a New York movie. Boom. That's, you know, that's just what people say there. It's Dustin Hoffman. Who doesn't either. The good night cowboy. I cowboy, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of our relationship in many ways.

Dustin Hoffman and, uh, Oh, you mean between the characters? Rainman. Yeah. It's like you guys are like Rainman. That's what it is. It's kind of? Rainman. It's like you guys are like rainman. That's what it is. It's kind of a rainman thing.

So is there any food beyond pizza that like you really loved and you really crave when you go back to New York, when you think about New York? Well, the bagels, of course. Of course you're a bagel spot. I had S a bagel. Yeah, S a bagel was a favorite of mine for sure. I had S a bagel. I had S a bagel.

It's a bagel's good. But then I think I decided it was too heavy for me at a certain point. But, H&A, you know, the classics. But then, I also love when I go to New York to go, there was a place that I think is probably long gone called Dojo, which I always think about,

which was like a super cheap, quasi healthy place, but you would get a soy burger dinner for like two bucks. And I loved it. It was just like a fun, comforting, and San Loco, which when I was in college had dollar tacos, and they were open till 2 a.m. And I mean, every night,

on your way home, San Loco. Yeah, why not? The best. And then so good too. I hope Kermit defraud here. Splice that in earlier. That's Kermit. Still, I mean, I was better at it back in the day. Did you? Did you were able to do the distinction between Kermit and Ernie?

Ernie is, I couldn't do, like I would just go like, hey bro, that's all I could do. Well I think, Carmen was like a little thicker, and then Ernie was a little thinner, but it's the same voice. That's that, that is, that's, see this, I mean, this is Muppet stuff,

you wouldn't, you wouldn't do some of it. And Bert would say, Ernie, why don't you do it? Thank you. I'm a man of a thousand voices. That's what I'm known to. And then this is animal from other ways. Go bye bye.

I could do that kind of. I gave a half ass first. I was not a bit. I'm embarrassing myself in front of someone who I respect so much. Well, I think if President Reagan was here, he would say, well. All right, you mentioned bagels well, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.

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And I do have a very favorite bagel place here in Los Angeles, Hank's bagels. Hank's bagels. I don't know if you guys have talked about that. That's what we should have talked about. Hank's bagels has Hank Spagels. I don't know if you guys have talked about that. That's what we should have talked about. Hank Spagels has at least two now. When I first became a fan, they only had one on Riverside in the Valley, and now they have another one

and another part of the Valley on also on Riverside, but for their, I don't know on Ventura, who cares. Anyway, it's a real deal, very New York style. One guy does it, but now he's got a big business growing and it's so incredible. Wow. I feel like there was, you'll remember this, the Burger Craze of about 2007, 2000. Sure, of course.

So the Burger Craze led to the fried chicken craze, and I feel like after that. It's specifically like a fried chicken sandwich. Yeah, sorry, fried chicken chicken craze. And I feel like after that. It's specifically like a fried chicken sandwich. Yeah, sorry, fried chicken sandwich craze. If you're in you're talking in terms of like these are like, you know, in the LASTRO pub, kind of doing the elevated version of that.

Yeah, but then I think that there was, I mean, but I think that a rising tide raises all ships, Nick. Mitch, that's one of the more sage things you've ever said. Well, instead it was such hostility, yeah. Yeah, it was mad at him. I'm not gonna piss. But because...

Rice is all ships, Nick. Yeah. We got a Ludobshell, what's going on here? Because... Because... I'll break the army. After that, I just got into the first time. Okay.

Marty broke it. After that, pizza, I feel like they're like, oh, we're gonna, you know, like, pizza's the next thing. Pizza was the next thing, but then bagels, cause there's these Easty boys. Yeah.

And there's a few other bagel spots. That kind of bagels I know. I think I would remember, when I lived in New York and around that time, 2007-8, but I was coming to LA a lot for work, I was struck that this town LA is so health-crazed and health conscious, and every block though is a cheeseburger place. And way more than New York, like burgers everywhere. Well, yeah, well, this is the thing. It's like, the big burger chains all

started in like LA and started in the LA area. They're all from Southern California. Yeah, yeah. It's like, that's like a big part, I think of the culture identities. Like it's a burger town, it's a taco town. And also there's like a lot, like specifically the places that do like, I mentioned Tommy's, but like it's a very heavy burger

that's got like chili and cheese on it. I can't do it. I can't do it. Tommy burger. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's intense. Now it's all just Smashburgers. That's like what we've now evolved into. Yeah, it's all Smashburgers now, which are good

Like that place on Franklin next to 101 that I forget what it's called. Oh, yes Yeah, and it that was it used to be a French restaurant, right and I forget the name of it too. It's right in the the right next to the 101, basically, across street from the Hollywood. It's on town, like near our guy. I know you're talking about it, I know what it's called. And where the 101 cafe used to be to the left of that, if you're looking at it, which is now something else.

Clark Street Diner. Clark Street Diner, which is good. Had breakfast there this morning. It's very good. It is good. It is really good. I loved 101, so it was sad to see it go, but then a great place came in. And they left it, they kept it the same, basically. Yeah, except just made the menu better.

I loaded up the Hank's website, and their mascot in logo is a bagel with arms and legs. You see this guy? Look at that. We're talking about this. That is kind of scary in some ways, I guess, but. It's an abomination. Yeah, because you saw that thing that was alive, you'd think it was entornment. in some ways, I guess, but... It's an abomination.

Because if you saw that thing, it was alive, you'd think it was entornment. It's not as bad as the chickens that are eating the chicken kind of thing. We brought that up recently in our Poio Camparo episode. Actually, well, that will come out before this one. And yeah, their mascot is a chicken serving a plate of chicken. A serving of chicken, which we say that's... Which is so often, that's what what you are the pig eating the ribs and

it's just so weird. Like Lars von Cheers shit, it's like twisted. mascot should only be humans. I know we just talked about the muppets. And I think the muppets would not be as fun if they were all humans. I don't want to interrupt there, but Lars happens to be one of my best friends.

So if you could just not. Okay, I'm not can we, I'll just take, I'll just say a different director and just throw this in there. Thanks David Kronen in there. Thanks. David Kronenberg, shit. Yeah. I'm gonna throw it in there.

There it is. Fucking psycho. There's weird movies. You know what, I like Lars von Trier. Yeah, great guy. It's good. Okay, we're, oh, donuts. Yeah, donuts, yeah.

But like, okay, so you're, you have a, you have a, a, a bagel fandom. I think I ultimately land. I had a lot more donuts than bagels as a kid. And most of the bagels I had were bad bagels, but even though they're the same shape, they're they're taking in such different contexts. Holy different. Not 100%. Teen bagel all the way. I think I've become around, especially having like good bagels, not like this bagel sort of a plastic bag from the grocery store. Not like this bagel sort of a plastic bag from the grocery store It like I think that it's closer to being like it's like a meal, right? Like you can have like a bagel for breakfast and you're not gonna be like just it's not gonna completely make you super heavy and worn down

I talk about this on I've talked about this before but lenders bagels. I believe it was called Yeah, sure, and that's what I had growing up. I loved them onion lenders That's the first time I had an onion bagel like this. I loved them from a nostalgic point of view, but they were grocery store. Are they bad? Well, they were processed, you know.

Sure, yeah. Frozen bagels. But for me, because like now when I have like, for instance, I have a Thomas, like I have a Thomas bagel, like a Thomas English muffins makes bagels, and I'll have one of those when I'm back in Massachusetts. And the lenders in my mind is better because I'm like, is it frozen?

Was that why? Is it a better quality bagel than? It was decent for a grocery store type bagel. Yeah. But yeah. I have one every morning. But I'm rarely in this position where I'm like, should I have a bagel or a donut?

It's different different things two different Reasons to eat anything. Do you have a favorite donut? A favorite kind of donut. Yeah, I think I will often go for the Unglased plain cake donut. Oh wow. Yeah, cuz I like that with a coffee That's fun. That's like a sweet, don't drink. Classic donut. I also like it because it's usually the least heavy and sweet.

100%. Do you have a least favorite donut? Herds donut, it's not good. Least favorite donut. I say it. I'm sorry. Well, I mean, we saw today a donut that had bacon in it, which looked pretty gross to me.

Yes, none under that. And yeah, like big sort of goopy ones that you can't even touch without getting it all over your hands. Yeah, I'm not super into that. America's fascination with maple bacon donuts, it doesn't, it just hasn't rubbed off on me. Look, my favorite donut is a maple bar.

I love a maple bar, but I don't need bacon on there. I don't get why people like the, it's never, the bacon's never good. There was, okay, so what you were talking about earlier of like kind of like the different stages of like fascination with like burgers and fried chicken sandwiches and what have you, I think there also was like a bacon and dessert face. Yeah, but I remember there also was like a bacon and dessert face.

Yeah. Like that happened. I remember there were like bacon sundaes. Exactly. Yeah, and I feel like that time is gone. I feel like the sun is set on the dangle dessert. We don't need it anymore. But I'm so the bacon dessert rather.

But yeah, this place is still, is still clinging to it. Um, yeah, I like to remember the, the, the, the donut chain that's grown and grown that where they fresh donuts now. What's that called again? You know, I mean, Krispy the the donut chain that's grown and grown that where they fresh donuts now what's that called again You know I mean crispy cream. Yeah, when that first came to New York because it was a big regional hit But it was there was none in New York for years and years and they first opened it there and I was definitely obsessed with that I would wait in line Wow Regularly I was in that was probably the most donatee I was ever in my life I mean have a few hot glazed for the first time from...

Yeah, when it comes right off the thing and super hot. Yeah. That's a show stopper. We talked about the Easty boys. I was listening to the Beastie boys last night. I was and they mentioned, they talk about Krispy Kreme and one of their songs for back in the day. Wow. Maybe what you want.

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The menu is focused almost exclusively on donuts and coffee, Mitch, I'm realizing now, because we're recording later than we were supposed to, and it's almost 6 p.m. and I'm still working, drinking this coffee. I gotta stop it. I gotta get this out of my face. Yeah, you're in trouble.

Be humble night. I'm drinking coffee too, and I don't drink coffee past 9 a.m. normally. Wait, really? Yeah. For me, my cutoff is like 3 p.m. I'll have like an afternoon coffee, but have this late.

This is... If you didn't have that coffee and you were doing dope boys, you would be in a deep coma, basically. I know. So I just down this to try to stay awake. There's seven locations. I would say they seem to be mostly in kind of upscale shopping centers, and that would make sense,

given the price point of these donuts, which we'll talk about. And it's just kind of the, we reviewed Crumble Cookies recently. It's kind of the same sort of model where they have like an ever rotating lineup of donuts. They have like their core donuts and they're always bringing in new stuff. I wonder who's doing like coming up with all the new ideas. They probably have a team that's brainstorming and has a whiteboard. Yeah, they probably have like a test kitchen somewhere. Oh, I gotta ask you something about

you created one of the great movies of the, of the, of the, did it release in 2000, it did release in 2000, what hot American songs? Yeah, right. But I want to talk to you about camp food. Oh, yeah. Did you go to camp when you were young? I did. I went to summer sleep away camp, different, a bunch of different ones.

And I also, uh, my, my son just got back from sleep away camp. That's so exciting. Did he have honor? Not really. also my son just got back from sleep week. That's so exciting. Did he have honor? Not really. You know, generations are different. But the food at my sleep week camp was truly disgusting and in a netable.

It was every corner they could cut to serve 200 kids for as little money as possible. And, you know, just giant industrial cans of the cheapest crap they could get. And, you know, and I remember they cooked for breakfast. They had some system where they would give you a platter of fried eggs that were all piled on top of each other. And so, and just like spread out a lot of huge platter.

So if you wanted one of them, you'd like sort of peel it off and it was so distilled. Well, Jesus. That's fucking mild. Yeah, so for the most part, you just kind of didn't eat if you could help it. And then we would sneak in in between meals because the one thing they had was this big silver box that you pull the

lever and out comes fresh milk and then had a little white tube out. I don't know what it was. I know what you're talking about. And that was the one thing that was great. And so we were and it was cold and so that was kind of what we subsisted on. It's sneaking in and stealing milk in between meals. I went to camp Fatima. I've said this before, which was not a fat camp.

It was a Christian camp. And my mom found out that one of the priests had gotten in trouble the week before it. And then she still sent me there. And I don't really, she sent me to camp Fatima still after she found this out. And was like, really, she sent me to camp out of my still, after she found this out. And I was like, don't let anything happen to him, basically.

He's this. And so I went there and then, and it was kind of a Christian camp and then I went to camp Burgess, which was a YMCA camp, with a sleepaway camp. And that had kind of good food, weirdly. It was, in my mind, I remember it being okay,

but two weeks away. Did you ever do a sleepover? Oh, I mean, my biggest camping thing, I remember is Boy Scouts. And so when we go to a summer camp in Boy Scouts, we had to do our own cooking clean. Right, no, yeah. It was a lot more paramilitary.

And we usually had shitty food because it was like 12 year olds who didn't know how to fucking cook anything. And we usually had shitty food because it was like 12 year olds who didn't know how to fucking cook anything and they were given shitty, cheap ingredients. And then inevitably someone would get sick because the kids didn't wash the dishes well. Of course. So that was a mess.

I also went to a music camp called Camp Aero Bear that I went to a few times and the food there being like okay. Like they do like a good like grilled cheese sandwich or like pancakes like very simple stuff. Check it out some. All right. Yeah, you should go up there.

If you're between like the ages of like 12 and 17 and like you play like a woodwind instrument that probably helps. It's like 1992. Yeah, that's probably the time to visit it. But yeah, we it was it was fine. I mean, I mostly hated camp because I just want to be it. But yeah, it was fine. I mean, I mostly hated camp because I just wanna be home playing video games.

That was my whole thing. Every time people were like, oh, I miss camp, I made somebody camp friends, and it was this fucking, my Nintendo's at home. I will say the one thing that also I remember is when we were allowed to leave the camp for whatever reason, we would maybe go to this, like, the drug store down the street and they made a pizza there.

Which, it's a thing about context in food because those pizzas, I can tell you, objectively, were probably the most disgusting because they were served in between two, like, paper plates, I remember. And it was probably, they had a bunch of frozen ones that they bought a year ago, and they throw them in the microwave and give it to you. And we thought it was the best treat imaginable, like so excited. Yeah, right. But I'm sure it was awful. It was the same sort of thing.

I remember Boy Scout camp when we would get like, oh, we could buy an ice cream bar for like the commissaries. Like it was like the most amazing treat ever. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't have fun memories with camp really. I don't believe in rose colored glasses. I think that the stuff was good. Personally, I think that a lot of that stuff was good. Yeah, that's great. I think that I had as a boy,

like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe that priest was innocent. Let's try to say. Maybe give that priest another chance. Nothing happened on I was there. That's all I'm saying. It'll that priest another chance. Yeah. Nothing happened on I was there. That's all I'm saying. It'll come out in therapy. That's why I refused to go. Quincy massages the birthplace of Duncan Donuts. That's right.

For me, early on was, that, I mean, after lenders, it was Duncan, was my bagel spot. My hometown, Lakewood, California, the earth place of Denys. But Denys was opened as Denys donuts. It was originally donuts. Oh, really? And then they changed it to Denys?

They changed it to Denys. They like the game where it was diner and then they're like, ah, change the A to an E. Okay. Yeah. Is Denny a priest of some sort? What happened? Yeah. Is Danny a priest of some sort?

What happened? Cleveland, fast food local chain was Mr. Hero. Mr. Hero had a great hero sandwich chain all over Cleveland, but probably not anywhere else. And also Arby's was big in Cleveland. I love Arby's. Okay, you mentioned Arby's when we're talking about what you wanted to cover.

And I'm curious because I'm a big Arby's fan. I'm an Arby's defender of my wife. And I both love Arby's, when we're talking about what you wanted to cover, and I'm curious, because I'm a big Arby's fan. I'm an Arby's defender of my wife, and I both love Arby's. It's a place that's been used as a punchline a lot, but you have a affinity for it? Well, I remember, oh, and there was another one called Beef Carral. I remember.

Beef Carral. Beef Carral was a chain of like, you know, just above Arby's, you know, you'd sit down. Right. Oh, God, it was gross. But, uh... Sounds awesome. That's how I read me and Dick got very excited about it.

I know you want me to, you want me to come on the Arby's Trim and do you? I don't think I can. I used to like it and go there with my friends all the time, but I think as soon as I was old enough to be aware of what was going in my mouth, I realized that it was really gross. And we would go and it was like a giant roll and then the tiny little like sort of swath of gross wet beef in there. That's the... You gotta get the ratio right, some of them are too much fun.

I still, I came to like Arby's because I didn't have it much growing up. But also I think we just have bad taste. I absolutely have to admit, I don't think I've seen an Arby's in 25 years. There's the big hat one on sunset near Netflix, where you pick it. That big old hat, Arby's, which is maybe the most famous one in LA. A lot of... It's still open. That one's still open.

A lot of them are closed in LA. I think the next closest one is in the Inglewoodwood and that's the one I'll go to regularly. But it's like, yeah, it's like a lot of fast food chains. It's unless, except for the biggest of them, the McDonald's and Taco Bells of the world. A lot of them have been pushed to the outskirts. Yeah. We talked about this on the show, but like we have you like the world is so bad and local chains are shutting that you have to root for like beef corals, right, right, even survive.

But yeah, I feel like that's where you and I will have our final shootout, Nick. Well, well, well, isn't the galley bull. Well, well, well, isn't the galley bull. Okay, so side guard, I've been to a few times and I do like this place, it is fucking expensive. And I don't wanna bury the lead here, it is this is like a completely different category of donut from like the dunquins of the world or even the crispy creams.

Like this is a price wise, you will be spending six dollars for one donut. And I mentioned before the record, but I've been before and ended up in a situation where I got a donut and coffee, and with tax and tip, I've spent $12, $13. That's a lot of money. I will say that these are.

But total today was like $100, right? We spent, yeah, I believe Amelia said we spent $95 to get something like know, like something like 14 donuts. That's four coffees. And some coffees. So it's a place she'll be spending a pretty penny. That's called a Baker's dozen plus one. Yeah.

That's what we ordered. That said, I do like the donuts by and large, but just know what you're getting into. It's kind of the placement. It's not quite at Aeroan's level, but it's the kind of place like Aeroan that is just like, it's kind of amazing that there's a market for this, you know? That there is like, there are people who are like,

oh, I want to go to the, I mean, I guess, I guess. I think it's definitely, it's for sure, it seems to be catering to people who don't look at the price at all. Yeah, sure, yeah. Right, they're just like, here's the credit card, here's donuts, they taste good. Or, and, or I think there's an element of,

well, this is such an occasional indulgence for me, because that's kind of how I would think of it, is like, I'm not trying to get donuts all the time, like, oh, maybe I'll go get like a fancy donut when I, on the, the rare occasional. Just even the setup of the dozen donuts is so weird, and they're put in single, like a dozen donuts, a big flat box.

No, it's not a traditional donut box. It is a long like corridor. It's like a thing that you would have like like the Ruffa flowers. Like to do the sushi delivery. Exactly. Yeah, and it's a long boy. It's a long thin boy.

And then inside there's just like, it's a little flat so that you can see all of their artistry, which there is a lot. They do look great. They look nice. They look nice. Yeah, they look nice. So we got a bunch of them and we got the regular flavors

and we got some seasonal flavors. Let's just talk through them. I mean, first off, were there any standouts? Were there anywhere you were like, oh man, this one was really hidden? We had, there was a couple that were, I tried a couple good ones at first. They've you cut a couple that I,

that in that first, the first creamy one that had the passion fruit on it, the lemon passion fruit. Passion fruit Pavlova is the official name for the flavor. I was impressed by that one, and but then when I sort of came around and had another taste of it at the end and I wasn't as excited. But that was the first bite I had,

and I was like, okay, we're gonna have a bunch of fancy donuts. Yeah, we'll have. It was unique. It was unique. I never had anything like that. Because it's got like a big, like kind of mound of cream. Like it's filled, but it's like, like a rose on top of it. Yeah.

It's a little passion fruit seeds, which I was trying to figure out what they were. That's what they were passion fruit seeds. You were like, there's seeds on here, and we're just naming seeds here. I know. No, no. It was definitely one of those donuts

where there's a lot going on. There was a lot going on. Yeah. But I liked it. And then honestly, the first couple I tried because then we cut into that cookie dough, yeah, and that was also pretty great. Salted malted chocolate chip cookie dough,

which is another one that has kind of like a bloom of like the filling coming out of the hole. And these are also all very like indulgent. I'm sure highly caloric, like very heavy doughnuts. Super dense, yeah. Yeah, that one's a cakeier doughnut, and you know, they have both cake and raised varietals and they're all like, yeah, just super duper dense and sugary.

Yeah, I thought that one was, was great. Look, I like the, the, among their regular ones, among the were simple ones, the butter and salt. I like the butter and salt. We had a little bit of a dispute because there was both a butter and salt and a gluten-free butter and salt. We're having trouble with certain things. But one of them though, seemed like there was both a butter and salt and a gluten-free butter and salt and we're having trouble with sharing it. But one of them though, seemed like there was nothing in it. It just seemed like plain bread doughnut and then you get to this big wad of butter in there. Yeah. Which to me was absolutely disgusting.

So that was there take on a malasada, which I know is like a, you know, like a traditional Hawaiian doughnut. This version I thought was, which has, like, a weird, like, burst of buttery cream inside. We found the goop when we found the goop after we had cut the donut up so much and there was no goop. It was like a really like a soft butter that you would maybe get on a pancake and a fancy or like it was just it seemed like just butter. Yeah it was like table whip. It was like strange.

It was nasty. I was happy that we I hadn't found it and then when we found it I was sad. It was disgusting. That one was a disappointment. It was nasty. I was happy that I hadn't found it and then when we found it, I was sad. It was disgusting. That one was a disappointment. He was crying. They were like, calm down, run up. It was really sad. We pulled it together. You're doing great.

The other highlight, there was the chocolate, is that what's called? Yes. Chocolate. Maybe it's chocolate. But it was, you know, sometimes when they have one of those things, like it's, you know, double chocolate, it's two dense, but this was, it's dense, but it had a very, it was a texture that I've never had in a donut.

And it sort of has a, in a good way, a goopy brownie-ish, almost moosey. I loved it. No, I'm not a chocolate donut guy, and I thought it was delightful. Was it a chocolate crossover for like the movie? Yeah, I think it. No, I'm not a chocolate donut guy, and I thought it was delightful. Was it a chocolate crossover for the movie? Yeah, I think so. Well, there was a little standy of Juliet Benosh, in it.

Oh, yeah, that's what that makes sense now. That wasn't edible, by the way. No, it's hard plastic. Yeah. Are you okay, or are you teeth okay? Yeah, this is what, this is a part of what the crying was, too. We were like, don't bite Benosh, what are you teeth okay? Yeah, yeah, this is what this is a part of what the crying was too. We're like, don't bite the nose. What are you doing?

Are you swallow a veneau? So, yeah, the show, the show, the lot was really good. The chocolate was really good. The, like they're, they do an old fashion. They do a vanilla bean glaze. I think those are both like Cape Luxe Accusions. I do like their Huckleberry, which is their, their big old pink donut. That was fun. The blueberry donut I love. Blueberry one is great. That one's a home run. That is the, yeah. That is the Susie's blueberry pancake.

And there were a couple that were like, David, that you kind of do that like the cinnamon one. There was like just like, just like on cinnamon crumb. And then you were like, this is like the perfect version of this donut. I was like, you're right. It is. Yeah. Like it was on cinnamon crumb Yeah, and then you were like this is like the perfect version of this donut. I was like you're right It is they had like it was a cinnamon crumb cake coffee cakey donut Where you and you just wanted a nice hot coffee to go with it when I say hot coffee. I mean hot coffee I have this issue everyone makes fun of me for it. I just came out. I don't know. I oh shit Wow, so that's not normally how you say hot. No, how are you kidding me? No, because, well, yeah. No way, would I do that.

I'm not a bonehead. It's fine. Yeah, I'm not mean either. I say, when I say hot dog, people think, well, I did it. There it is, hot dog. Hot dog. That word goes with jobba the not with coffee What are we gonna get that job a series? I want to see I want I want I want to see more of job I don't know more about job. What's going on with job?

Oh job. I want to know as a kid as a little boy. Let's see young job. Oh see little job He's thin and handsome job. Job a boy boy boy. That's what it's little Java. He's thin and handsome Java. Java boy boy boy, that's what it's called. So the passion fruit powla and the salted, malted chocolate chip cookie dough, which we talked about, were their seasonal flavors. You know, they have a, they have a bunch of very specific things that you can only get in store or only on certain days. And so some of those we didn't get

the celebration cake we haven't talked about. Which I think you know is a good sprinkly donut. The maple bacon we talked about and I just, I didn't have any, I'm not eating pork, but like the, that makes it easier. I was the only one who tried it. It sucked.

It sucked. It sucked. You said flat out, it sucked. Flat out, it sucked, and also it felt, it was like the most stale, It was like hard to cut into. Wow. Did anyone else try it? Casey, you tried it?

Or Amelia? I did not. I thought that celebration one was not that interesting either. It was sort of, it wasn't, and it was also not felt almost stale to me. Yeah. There were a couple that, it was funny because I was enjoying them and then towards the end

of tasting, I also felt like shit. But towards the end of tasting, I was like, some, but towards the end of tasting, I was like, some of these are outright bad. Well, okay, so that's the thing. Because they are hit and miss, and because they are so expensive. And like if you go in store, and I've done this before, they will cut things into eighth,

and you can have a taste of a donut like you would at a nice cream parlour. So you can decide. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, you can have a taste of some of these before you fully commit. But if you commit to one of these, and again, you spend a pretty penny for it,

it's gonna feel real bad to have to eat all of this maple, bacon, donut if you're ordering it for the novelty. The, yeah, what else do we, the lemon pound cake that we get? But even that lemon one that I liked, I wouldn't need a whole one of those. It's a lot, yeah. A lot of that, you know.

That's why I feel like if I go back there, I'll get the coffee kick one or I'll get the more plain ones. Maybe it's just because I like. No, I think that's a good call. I think honestly, their best donuts are the things that are like elevated version of classic donuts. But the blueberry one is, yeah, that's a good one.

That's a good one. I would do again. I'll also say, and I think this is the move for this place. Go with your sweetie. You each get a donut a piece or you get three donuts total and then you can divide and conquer. You don't have to fully commit to any and don't it. Great, thanks. Thanks for reminding me, you know, get a big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big I'll bring my fucking Wally and Irma. My cats.

The coffee is, I think, pretty good here. I've had it before. I mean, this is a fine cup of coffee. No complaints. Is it fair trade? I'm not sure. Is it shade grown? I mean, I hope so. Why don't you fucking know this stuff? I don't have context for it. You should look, you should know before you sip. I'm talking no this stuff. I don't have context for it. You should know before you sip. I'm sorry. And look, it was fair trade before you took a sip with a coffee.

I was looking for little caffeine boost. All I know is I can't believe I just drink a whole coffee. I don't, I gotta stop sipping this. Okay. Any other, did we miss any flavors or anything when you talk about? I think that's everything. I think that is everything.

There was a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. I do think it's probably a fun thing if you have a budget and you want to get, you know, bring a dozen donuts to a party or something and people try tastes of different weird things. Yes, right. That would be a good place and time to do that I suppose. Well, that makes me think again of the Crumble Cookies model because that's very much what

they do. It's like, hey, get a bunch of these. The right move here, Mitch, to quote our good friend, Uncar Plut, is to take one of these donuts and have, whole on quarter portion. And by the way, we're talking about jobless prequel. Is that cultural appropriation? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha a good friend, Uncar Plutt, is to take one of these donuts and have one quarter portion. And by the way, we're talking about job as prequel. Is that cultural appropriation? I can say it. I can say it.

We should get a young plot. Let's get the young plot here. It's the embarrassing that impression, huh, David? Juice. Does side card give you anything smaller as that they just have the full size? No, they're all big boys.

I don't think they have. What is, what, what, what, what, what, what can, the equivalent of the thing they have? Munchkins? Munchkins, yes. Holes. I don't think they have holes. But I don't understand why they just don't make smaller ones.

Like, there's a good market. I would, I would normally order a smaller donut if they had it. Yeah, I would agree with that. I agree with that. What does side card donuts mean anyways? What is this? What is this place? What the fuck is this place?

By the way, you said they were found in 2013. I just wanna throw them a happy 10th anniversary. Happy 10th anniversary, side card, how exciting. Yeah. Happy 10th anniversary, your place kinda sucks. Yeah, that's the message. Have you ever written in a motorcycle sidecar? Because as a kid, I always thought that that would be

the coolest thing in the world to be on a motorcycle sidecar. And then I've never had that happen. I've never done it. Gavers and I are often mistaken for the two guys who are riding in the motorcycles. So the kids, you get a stop wearing sunglasses and probably hats. But in food sidecar means, like what does it mean sausage on the side or something

or a drink on the side? I mean, I know there's a cocktail called a sidecar. But why is it called sidecar donuts? It doesn't make any sense. There's no reason for it. This place kind of goes down to like a crumble for me, which I also didn't love crumble. And now I'm just more aware of it.

This is like a hoidy, toidy donut place. I mean, basically side card donuts is a total shithole. What? What? What? What? What? What?

What? If you think about it, would you be happier if I brought you a dozen side card donuts? Or first of all, a dozen bagels already. You would be happier with a dozen bagels, because everyone would take a bagel and they'd eat it. You don't mean me. You mean like in a scenario where I'm bringing something over to a local donut place

that made, I got fresh donuts from. You'd rather that, do. Well, yeah, I mean, if there's a local, look, my conception of a donut is not even a changed donut. My, my, the donuts I grew up with were places that were largely immigrant-owned businesses, they were single places, that they were all using kind of the same ingredients, and then you get the dozen donuts and the pink box.

Like, that's what I always remember growing up. And there's a bunch of those like, similarly named, you know, but independent donuts, the shops that are all over the place. The sort of gentrified donut, we had, we went to a good place in Chicago, Mitch. I enjoy that way more. Why can I not remember the name of anything today?

Do right donuts. Do right donuts. Thank you, Emma. I went to do right donuts in Chicago. And, by the way, I'm noticing you're I went to do right donuts in Chicago. And... By the way, I'm noticing you're a guy who wears your watch facing in. How long has that been a thing? Probably about two minutes.

I didn't even notice. That's not your real thing. That was your thing. I maybe it will be from now on. Let me see. Yeah, Mr. Cool. That's not your real thing. What's about to do this?

Yeah, there's gonna be a new thing. I'm like, Wayne. When did this start? I think I'm a dobboy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a, we went to do right donuts in Chicago. Now, do right has a more extensive menu.

They have breakfast sandwiches, which were great. They have fried chicken sandwiches, which were quite good. They have a lot more going on there than just donuts. If there's a lazy, focused on donuts, I'm saying, if you're a fancy donut shop, I don't know, I don't want something more, almost. I don't know.

If I were to open my own, the great donut shop, I would have two kinds and make them great and simple and a little smaller and be like, these are just so good and you can eat like two of them and not feel like you want to barf. Wow. It's the crispy, it's like a, like a, well I guess crispy cream does have different,

but you think of the just the old fashioned glaze doughnuts of crispy cream, that's the money maker. And I, there's just, I don't know, I just kind of think this place sucks. I like to be mean. I might not go, I don't know. I just kind of think this place sucks. I have to be mean. I might not go, I don't think I'm gonna go all the way there with you with sucks.

I don't think it sucks. I was just saying that to be funny. I don't think it's quote unquote sucks. But I just, I don't know. There's not enough for me with this place. It's just, it's kind of like whatever. Especially for $95 for a dozen donuts, 13 donuts and two coffees or three coffees or whatever. It's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot.

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Welcome back to Doe Boys. It's time for our Forks course for Psych Art Dunnett. So David, here's how this will work. We'll each go around. Yeah. Give a closing argument, if you will. It is some final thoughts on this particular chain. Yeah. And then at the end of that, give it a rating from zero to five forks.

You can do half forks as well. Half forks, you can do quarter forks. You can think of a four timed fork and you can take whatever quantity of times you want to use. I'm ready. I go ahead. I start. Okay.

My closing argument is this is a place that first of all, they've been around for 10 years. And you got to give them something for that. Happy 10 year anniversary to side card donuts. They certainly are making the effort. They're taking swings and I appreciate both of those things. Some of the tastes are very, very good. They, some of the flavors are really enjoyed. And then some of them were more gross to me

But that's okay. You can pick what you like and so that's not terrible. And then yeah, they're pretty expensive So I'm gonna just sort of so out of four out of five out of five I'm gonna give it I'm gonna give it it three point one. Wow, three in one. Three forks one time. One time. Yeah, that's, I think it's pretty on the, I think it's a perfect score.

Thank you. I mean, perfect would be five, but sorry. But I see what you mean. I think it's a perfect for what it is, score. Uh, sci-card donuts, look, yes. Now you can get a better donut at Si-card donuts and you could get a dunkin' but I'd be happy getting a bacon-egg and cheese on a croissant,

say I'm whatcha in a chocolate frosted from Dunkin''s Wags. I would, I would. Well, yeah, I mean, but that's apples and orange. And do write donuts. Do write donuts I do think did a better version of this and had more options. I don't know. I think I'm right around,

I think I'm a three-forker on this guy. I, wow. And also, I thought you were gonna be more harsh. The donuts that were good tasted really, they did taste good. Yes. So there were like four donuts from like, oh, these tastes great. And then there were like a few donuts that were good tasted really, they did taste good. Yes. So there were like four donuts from like,

oh, these tastes great. And then there were like a few donuts that were like, oh, these are good, but you know, not the best, but they're good. And then there were a few that I was like, that I thought like genuinely sucked. And if I spent six, and happy 10th anniversary to 10th anniversary.

That's like a sad car. Congrats. Congrats on taking away from that. Yeah, 10 years operation. Hey, the do Nothing away from that. 10 years operation, hey. The doboys haven't made it 10 years, so. Yeah, we're fucking close now, aren't we? We're approaching. Jesus Christ.

Ugh. You all right? I just, I didn't move out here for this. You neither of us did. That's okay, is this how this worked out? You guys are doing great. Let's just take a step back. Okay, sorry, you're right.

Fine. We've got eight years. Yeah, how about that? We've got eight strong years together. Just like SiCars got 10. We've got eight. And just like SiCars, sometimes there's be a little nuggets of fun stuff.

And a lot of things. I can see you're getting riled up and you're gonna shake that microphone on. And he's gonna get get sad. Sometimes there's a little nugget's a good stuff with us. And a lot of the times we suck. It's the same thing with sidecar. It was it's too expensive. It's not there were too many donuts that I didn't think were great. But do boys doesn't cost six bucks a donut. Well, if you're part of the Patreon, yeah, if you subscribe to the Patreon.

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I think this is the thing that, hey, you know what? Do right is doing the same thing, but do right is doing it really well. They're doing it right. So that's like, Mitch, that's really good. Thank you. Is Cicard donut gonna tweet at me with a sad emoji face? And then I'll feel bad.

Look, let's make the social play the most to lose. That's true. That is true. Because my whole thing is, I work for, as the spokesman for Sidecar. Oh boy, yeah, this is really, and so that's like my main income. I can't believe you didn't tell us.

I shouldn't mention that. We should not be reviewing it. This first time you can't really be objective. I'm about to take a bunch of commercials next week. Oh my God. Yeah. This is a bad idea in your part. Yeah.

Well, anyway, here we are. I mean, if you want to take any of that stuff out, we can't. We haven't really. It's a good idea. I'm just for my own business, but. I'm Kai. We'll talk, but... I'm Kai. We'll talk about it.

We'll talk about it after a figure. We'll talk about it after. Yeah, we'll see what stays in. I think the, here's the thing. I don't know if SideGar is gonna be upset by this. I do think they do do some really good donuts. I do think that coffee is solid. Every time I've been in store there,

the workers have been lovely. I think it's like a really hospitable sort of environment. And I think the, this is a place that I'm not gonna like not go back to. Like I'll go to this on occasion. But this is like an occasion. Put that on your wife's mind. So you're not gonna make a trip.

You're not gonna be like, you know what? I'm gonna drive another 20 minutes so we can go to side cars. Certainly not. No, it's because I have been in situations where like I either live close enough to side cars Or I've been like like got lunch in Mendocino farm. It's like oh, there's a side car right there. Okay I'm a little dill post meal treat. I was good today, you know

David when you do your your ads for sidecar and next week Do you think you'll use a hospital in Viron and your ad? I think I do think that's in the copy I Was at the headquarters today just sort of reading over the copy to get come through with it before we lay down some takes tomorrow. I should disclose that during the WGA strike, I've been just kind of a side gig doing writing some copy for side gig. Oh my god. Yeah, just brainstorming donut names and then writing some of their ads and stuff.

I'm the only one who doesn't have anything to lose here. I've also been laying down floors at the sidecar location. Doing some varnish work. You guys have both have a lot to lose in this scenario. Yeah, but I'm still going to be truthful here, which is that I like a lot of the donuts in this place. Some of them are quite good. They're they're very hit and miss and the misses are you know, they feel like big misses because again, you're you're spending some serious coin, but I want the place to succeed. I want to succeed. I bought 51% of the stock of it last week. Oh, Mitch. That's my wife, by the way, the big Mrs. She's doing something.

She's doing something. She's doing something. She's doing something. She's doing something. She's doing something. I think this place is right at the three fork threshold. I think this place as far as accomplishing what it's trying to do, a fancy expensive donut, I think it does it well.

I think it does it capably, just know what you're in for. And it doesn't quite take things to that next level that would put it in golden play club territory. I think there's a three-fourker, Mitch. Yeah. I feel like considering how much this place has been trashed, they did all right with the scores. They did all right.

Yeah. No, I mean, I didn't hate it. I'm just more like, it just doesn't justify spending this much money. That's why I can't divorce this from how expensive it is. If you add up all of our forks, almost to 10, which is the anniversary. Wow, there you go.

Nine point, something, but still, eight point, something. No, pretty good. Still pretty good. We're ballpark buds here. We're all the same general vicinity with our fork scores. And hey, speaking of buds, our bud Amelia is here for our segment. Wow. Hello.

Hi, Amelia. Amelia, come on over here. Work score and seven years. That's really good. That is good. And we probably will use it at some point. Yeah, we're going to use that at some point. So just maybe in some of your, if you take out an ad in Vogue or something.

All right, so we have a segment now Amelia a big part of the reason why David is here is because you used to are you snacking on something? I'm not spitting the holes out of my mouth. Okay. I don't want to have a mouthful of holes. Got it. So you're for asking a question as you were doing that. I can smell the halls. Do you want the rest of it? No. It's still somewhat. No, I don't want it. Is that your old halls?

Yeah. I'm not contagious anymore. I just love a cold. Ha this is a world's colliding. Wow. Can I ask you, can I ask one more question? That was long ago when I used to have an assistant. No. No.

I want to ask you, when you were with the state, I want to ask this question. Yeah, when you would be, you know, like spend a lot of nights writing and stuff like that. Did you have any go-to spots that you go all eat together at? I don't quite a great question. Well, we went to, well, we went to the Barrow Street ale house almost nightly in New York. And then there was a...

Barrow Street? Barrow Street. Sorry, I have a haul, a half of a... No, it's okay. I used the hauls of the mountain. Well, our office actually was on 1515 Broadway at 44th Street. Wow. And in fact, now the new Ish Paladium theater is there and we're doing our show, The State

Live, at that same address in October. Whoa, that's awesome. Yeah, very exciting. State is on tour. The hyphenstate. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's very exciting. The state is on tour. The hyphen state.com. Wow. Anyway, but there, so we would go to a lot of places in Hell's Kitchen and we went to, like, there was a wings place, and I can't remember what it's called now, damn it.

But it was so great. We used to walk there all the time after, you know, we would work very, very late, and we would often do all nighters. Wow. I love it. That's, I, I, I, with my sketch, we would go to Piquito Moss, why, because that's where I went with a lot of the time. That's cool. Yeah. Car mines, we'd order from car mines, which was across the street. It was a big like, you know, family, time square touristy Italian place. I had an uncle car mine once and he used to chase me

around going, get in my belly. Can I get in my belly? Yes, sir. That's, that's, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't actually my uncle. He's a lot, yeah. He's a lot of time packer, a lot of time calls here. He wasn't your uncle.

Yeah. I think you should come in for a session and you'll really sort of talk through that. That's good. He was like a family friend that was like an uncle. I think he was come in for a session and you'll really sort of talk through that He was like a family friend. I think he was my aunt's boyfriend Okay, at the time and he this was like around the time our awesome powers was coming out Yes Terrifying me chase me around the house go get in my

But were you of the age where you're like like scared of that? I was scared. Yeah, I was maybe like, I don't know. Look, what do you say? Do you make my honey, baby? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a problem. What is it? If you want to be real, yeah, we've talked about before. You and I were pretty afraid of fat bastard when we first saw the movie too.

Did you guys get a Christian summer camp? Um, yeah, I think it was called like Fatima. Okay, so I'll make it that. Fatima bastard. Oh God. No, yeah. No, that was good, yeah. You liked it.

Do you checkmark for that? Okay, so we, Amelia, you have a segment here. Yeah, it's bad though. Don't say it's bad. I was thinking, what if we just scrapped it and we played good guy bad guy? I mean, if you have an idea for a good guy bad guy. I don't want to hear about the stuff.

Yeah, we should describe the segments. I can explain good guy bad guy. Amelia drove up with me from San Diego. That's right. And she's like, I'll play a game with you. And she's like, I'll name people in the entertainment world And she's like, I'll name people in like the entertainment world. Little does she know I don't know a lot about. Uh-huh.

It doesn't matter though. It doesn't matter. And she's like, and you say, good guy or bad guy. Okay. And so we just, she started listening off. People was like, good guy, bad guy. The first example, she said, she said, Louis CK. That was the first one.

And I easy one. Yeah. Drop in the hood. Easy one. Easy one. first one. And that easy one. Yeah. Yeah. Job of the hood. Easy one. Easy one. It's always a gray area. Yeah.

I see the both. I see the good and bad and everybody. I'm Rand. Yeah, well. Wow. That's one way. We can do the actual segment. Yeah, let's read out your segments.

What does that have to do? Okay. Cause you got a couple options here. Okay. You got a haul's segment. Yeah, let's read off your segments. What does that have to do? Okay. Cause you got a couple options here. Okay. You need a halls back. Yeah, I'm gonna need that halls. Okay, so David, I know you love magic. So I wanted to do something, you know,

generally related to magic. So the segment is called Foudini. Hmm. So Mitch and David are magicians about. Is that a play on Foudini? It might just be. That's good. I caught it.

I'm not really thinking about that, but now you say it, it's a coincidence. So Mitch and David are magicians about to perform on stage. And they realize that their negligent assistant, Amelia, forgot to preset all their props. Okay. So, you two have to scramble to replace these props with food items that you find nearby

in the green room. Okay. So, the two of you have to work together to determine which food will replace each prop. And then, Waiigs, Casey, Emma, as audience members, will determine if the illusions were successful or a total failure. So this is just bullshit. Like, no, no, we know. This is yeah. We heard it.

This is not real. This is not actual stakes. Yeah, is there scavenger? So there's scavenger hunt element. There's like props in another room. Well, okay, so I'll give you an example. So one missing props is a key. Got it.

So you have to go on the green room and scrounge around and find something that could possibly replace that. Got it. Chair or them. That's good. That's good. Oh, they're not actually going anywhere.

This is like an exercise of imagination. Yes, exactly. I thought they were going to the next room where you had a bunch of stuff and they could grab and come back in here. No, they have to report. If the key was to unlock a lock box or learn handcuffs, yeah, cherry stem.

Cherry stem, have you done that before? No, but I'm trying to play your game. Oh, okay. Bullshit game. We have multiple cherry stems too. We could also, you know, if people tie it, cherry stems into knots in there, we could make it look like a key.

Okay. Yeah. Jesus. Let's, uh, we do the all. Can we hear that all? You got to second off. We should just, we should just review holes instead. Let's hear the all.

Let's hear the all. Maybe this one will work. All right. This one's better. All right. So, okay. You go. So you two are instead your mid-chish. Maybe the immatural for Wayne here. LAUGHTER LAUGHTER

OK, you two are magicians about to perform your greatest escape trick yet. Who? OK. Inspired by Houdini's milk can escape, we lock Mitch in an oversized galvanized milk can full of true, moose strawberry milk. I appreciate that you said oversized, thank you. Oh, you're welcome.

And throw away the key. However, I can fit in regular milk jug. I mean, what do you expect? Okay, that's true. It's because the milk jug is not the size of a man. It's not to talk about your body type. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, it has nothing to do with you.

Okay. Oh, wait, no, I saw you say oversized twice. oversized, calm, oversized. I wrote oversized in all caps. Yeah. Got it, got it. Yeah, that is a little insulting. Yeah, it's not a person that was originally written for Shelley Duval.

That's okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that's fine. But as you're about to perform the escape, you come to the horrific realization that the extra key is missing. Like these key keys. Yeah, sure. So you have to come up with a plan to set Mitch free using only the following food items

that you found in the green room. Oh boy. Only the following food items that you found in the green room. Oh boy. An apple, a carrot, string cheese, a bottle of champagne, toothpicks, and a straw. I love her New York accent. Read the next line because I like the next line. The amazing YG will determine if their plants exceeds or fails. And if Mitch doesn't, if Mitch doesn't escape the milk in, he will suffer a fate much worse than that. The toothbrush, a straw.

You'll have to drink the entire thing. The toothbrush, a straw, champagne, an apple. Yes. Carrot and carrots and two two picks to pick and string cheese And assume that Mitch and David would be able to communicate verbally despite Mitch being locked in the tank And again my role is just to sort of like hang out Yeah, I'm gonna give a thumbs up at the my under my under milk or can I'm sorry my like I think you have a little bit of breathing room Okay, okay, it could be like this. I think maybe the milk is slowly falling like filling up filling up the, like so there's a little bit of time pressure. Yes, there is.

Well, first of all, I'd probably ask you, please turn off the milk hose. I mean, my first request. Well, it also started getting me to drink some milk. Yes, that's true. What was Houdini's milk can escape? That was he got into a milk can and then he got locked with real locks and audience members would make sure that it was real And they would lock it and then he would break out of it. Wow. Yeah, that's how he died, right? No, he died in October of 1926 when

Somebody he had a standing thing that anyone could punch him in the stomach and he could handle it That's right But then somebody did it without giving him a chance to prepare late They just said they just went up to him and punched him when he wasn't paying attention. We should do that as a segment instead. And they shatter his sternum and then he went to hospital and died. Jesus. Do you have a favorite magician? Well, the one that I have the most affection for just a menestalgically is Doug Henning. Oh, yeah. He's like Doug Henning alive as a kid. Yeah, me too. I loved him so much. And I actually recreated a feel of a Doug Henning piece

on the stage at the lodge room in LA just a couple of months ago with that. It was great. That's cool. I mean, I got the house band to recreate some random score that had been written for Doug Henning TV special that I have affection for, and it was really fun. Wow.

Do you frequent the magic castle or... I am a member of the magic castle. Oh, wow. That's awesome. I went over there with our friend Eva Anderson, whose dad was the very talented Harry Anderson. That's right. Oh, wow. That's an air magician.

Yeah, amazing. And I saw you even do a show there with him and it was incredible. I love that place. But I am drowning in milk right now. That's right. Yeah. Um, okay. I'm still I just I'm like still a little unclear on what's happened. I know I get it. You get it. Okay. So I'm just judging. So I'll just hang out. If you know what what I would do is first I would I would take the carrot and poke it with the toothpicks and use the string cheese as string to thread the toothpick all the way through lengthwise

the carrot to create a straw. And then I would give the straw to my partner through the secret hole. You have a straw already. Okay, so frick. But this is good, keep going, keep going. And give him keep going Give him the straw. I got the straw so he can breathe Use it as a as a Breathing to like yeah, what do you call it? Things snorkel snorkel

So now he's okay for a minute Then I would use the apple is an apple. Yes, I would use the apple as misdirection for the audience. And I would say everyone, watch this apple, I would toss it in the air, separate away from the thing. And while I'm tossing it, and I'm gonna say watch the apple, and then all eyes around the apple, I'm like, get out of the can't, get out of the can't. You got the, you got the great YG's attention

on apple tossing. Yeah, see? And then, and then I would, cause I have my own outside key key and I would sneak it in there And then I would use all the other items The ball champagne to celebrate getting out at the Yeah, that's fun. And I could I eat the string cheese. I guess I wouldn't eat it after being After drinking all that milk. Yeah, do you think this is gonna be like known as one of the great segments? Yeah

Definitely I think so. I saw David Copperfield live. I've told this story a lot, but when I was a boy and I did, there was a meet and greet and he was sitting on a chair on a table and he was just staring at me as I walked by. Oh my God. He didn't say over a meet and greet. That was a very strange.

He's a strange man. Yeah, it was horrifying. And it was kind of when I stopped, I loved magic after that still, but it was like, we're default out of love. We're in a renaissance of great magic now. There's so many interesting shows and many magicians have put together small shows

that are very deep and personal and awesome. Magic is one of those things, and I'm not as into magic as some other things, but I definitely admire it. And like magic is one of those things and I'm not as into magic as some other things but I definitely admire it and I like magic is one of those things that like Pro-wrestling when I see like people who are really good at perform I'm just like oh you just did another level of like talent like this is like you can do you can be Intertaining but then also do another thing to a degree of mastery. Yeah, I got a good question here Yeah, but one we have to see if the great wagi accepts our escape.

That's true. The amazing wagi. It's the amazing wagi. Oh, I'll say, uh, Bravo! Bravo! We got out. I can't believe we won. This is the greatest trick and the greatest segment.

Now, man, I have that apple. Um, so pop the champagne. Pop the champagne. Pop the champagne. Nick, fuck, fuck this. Okay, I'm gonna go. How do you pop into champagne? What's the, the space work for that?

Because I was doing like a... That's about right. That's like I'm ringing out of a rag. Yeah, I guess. That's a camp pattern. But my father would always make open me a soda pop by going, that's great. Whoa, that's cool.

Wow. Yeah, you're, I like the saber guys. Yeah, the saber's cool. That feels magic adjacent. Watch yourself. Here's my question. Favorite magic food. Now, hold on for me. Because we were jumping in on that.

Hold on everyone. For me, it'll be chocolate lava cake. The reveal. That's fun. Oh, okay. That's pretty magical. Do you have, do you have, do you have, Oh, I know mine.

I don't even know what it's called, but that one where they bring it to the table and all the pieces are moving. Those those like they look like little pieces of paper But they're food you know what I'm talking about. What's that called where it looks like it's alive? Oh It's not squid though. It's it looks like little pieces of paper that are like blowing in a fire But I can't remember what you know something you guys know I'm talking about. I know what you're talking about. I don't know.

I have no idea what it's called. Yeah. That was cool. So it's making me think though of like my, the showmanship I love. Is it Benny Hanna when they do that little volcano on this one? That's the volcano. The volcano is good. I got to say, Benny Hanna, you go there, you're getting your money's worth.

That's a five fork chain. That's to me. What Benny Hanna is like the Platonic ideal of a five fork chain. Like they come in there and they sell it. Yes. Especially if you get a good one. Oh, so good. Great. I have to say something else, just reminding me of very off topic.

There's a Shabu Shabu place in Glendale. I went to, it's one of the best meals I've ever had. Wow. Yeah, and you just go sit there. It's casual, but so great. And they bring you all the stuff and you make it yourself, you know, and the thing, it was so great.

I gotta try this specific spot because, I had some underwhelming Shabu Shabu in the past. Me too, very much so. And that's why I noted it, yeah. Wow, okay. I'm trying to think of other trick foods. Shabu Shabu kind of sounds like a thing you would say in a magic act too.

It does feel like a magic reveal. Well, we went to that teaky place in San Diego and they gave us the scorpion bowl that was lit on fire. Yeah. And I ran the bell. Right, what about the desserts that are on fire? You know, like the love that I loved. I melted my straw and the scorpions bowl and the scorpion.

You melted your plastic straw. And that was, yeah, that was harrowing. But still not as bad as when I let my shirt on fire in a bar. Yeah, we want you to dig your bar and wags, let them sell. My shirt sleeve lit on fire. I'll tell you something though. Give me a Hank's bagel.

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Because of my, yeah. Um, I guess I know that does, I, do you know about my dad's scorpion? Yeah. I never really make the connection between, you know, Scorpion bowl and Scorpion dad, but maybe I'll start thinking about it. Yeah, I mean, it's just because his name is Scorpion. And that's like a thing that, like of my dad's name is Georgia. There was like a George bowl. It's like the first thing I think.

It was like, yeah, it's like my dad's. There's a magic food that I've heard a lot about recently called Magic Mushrooms. Oh, I've heard about this. Yeah. I've heard about this. Yeah. I've heard that, never mind. I was, I was just, I was just saying the wrong Alice in Wonderland thing.

Let's move on. Well, what's here? I was going to say that I've heard that one makes you smaller, one makes you large, but it's like that's a pill thing. That's not the fucking mushrooms. And if you say the wrong Alice in Wonderland thing, you will get canceled. Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.

That's why now I just said it here. I mean, hopefully that preface will get me out of the hot water. But that's still I think that still works. Don't cash for me. Lewis Carroll. Lewis Carroll. Did nothing wrong. I thought of an our magic food.

Um, the halls. There we go. They help make a cough. Go away. A little while. That's pretty magical. Yep. Magic mushrooms also come in chocolate bars now too. I've heard they ate some last summer. Pop rocks. Pop rocks are huge. That's a huge. That's a huge. That's a huge. All right, just like a restaurant, very feedback. your feedback. Let's go to the feed bag.

And today we have an email from Ryan Berger Spoon from Texas. That can't be there. I don't think this is their real name, which I think this is a Port Mantel of my nickname, the burger boy and yours, the Spoon man. I wish I was a real name. That's my guess. I hope it is their real name.

I Ryan Berger Spoon of that's your legal name. Please write back and let us know. Yeah, or change it to that. What a screenshot of your license. Yes. Send us your license. Includes the address. Yes. Uh, long time listener first time responder. I love this show. That's very nice. I love listening to your commitments to the WG and sag strikes to go unions. All caps. That's nice. As an aspiring creator, I'd love to hear how y'all broke into writing and acting. What's your story, what led to your art forms?

Secondly, please share your hopes for future writers and actors that try to get into the business with Love Ryan Bergersman. Very sincere question. We don't normally get like these sorts of questions in the feedback. Yeah. It's usually like, like, what would you rather, what food would taste better with come on it? Yeah. Oh, that's an interesting one. I'll take that one. Yeah, you can answer that one.

Oh, fuck. Well, like what's ketchup? Yeah, what is that good? Are you dumb? Yes, I'm dumb. Oh, okay. I did theater, I'll answer this sincerely. I did theater camp as a boy.

My sister got cast as Fagan and Oliver Twist. That's cool. When she was in fifth grade, I was in first grade. Oh, so this didn't just happen? No, no, no, no. Okay. When I was a boy and I was like, that's all over twist the one who had his thumb up

with the blue dogs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's in the play. Okay.

I have to reread. But she played Fagan. I was like, that's so cool. And then I auditioned for my fifth grade play and I got the role of a munchkin in the Witches of the Vaz, which I mentioned munchkins earlier. Different kind of munchkin. Different kind of munchkin.

And then I was like, I like doing that. And then my godfather, son, Neil, who owns the fact at, he did a super-soaker commercial, which I thought was really, really cool. And I was like, I like that world or whatever. And then I, he was in a super-soaker commercial. He was in a super-soaker commercial. He played the, he played like, it was him and two other kids

and they played blues brothers. I didn't know they didn't need commercial production like in the Boston area. Yeah. He played what he played like a blues brother. Like they didn't get invited to a party. Then they like shot the kids at the party with a supersoaker. Yeah. Maybe a little like to insolute for these days. Yeah. Bad vibes, but it was great at the time. I was like, I want to do that.

So I went to theater camp. And then I went, I went to high school. I stopped doing it because I was afraid of getting made fun of. And then when I went to Ithaca do that. So I went to theater camp and then when I went to high school, I stopped doing it because I was afraid of getting made fun of. And then when I went to Ithaca, that's when I got into cinema production wags. And I realized I could work in that world. And then I came, oh, here and I did UCB. I saw you doing improv at UCB.

Oh, yeah. But also a lot of, sorry, not live and Conan in the state were very much inspirations to get into things like that. That's the truth. I didn't pick out this question, by the way, I'm embarrassed, but I'm being sincere. I picked out the question. I thought it was nice. That is nice.

It is nice question. I'll answer. I like, okay, so the question is, what led us here? I mean, I kind of a winding road because I started in the video game industry and that's where I was doing in my 20s, but while I was doing that, I started taking improv classes and performing first at the shitty little theater,

south of UCLA campus, where I went to school, called the ultimate improv, it's now called the improv space if it still exists. So I performed a little bit there. It's where I met people like Jordan Morris and Heather and Campbell, way back in the day, Matt Jones, who we still know. And from there, then in 2005,

the upright citizens brigade, theater open and Los Angeles, I started performing there and taking classes there and then performing there. And then was on and improv, the improv group you mentioned. I was in that improv group with Heather Campbell, with Neil Campbell, Paul Rust, Drew Defonzo Marx, David Harris, Jim Woods. I think that's everyone.

And I did that for years as well as doing a sketch group where with some of those same people, called a guest from Daddy, which is how I met you because we's here to bill with your group, the birthday boys. But basically from all that, I reached a point where I was able to have some opportunities to write for, first for the onion, funnier dye,

and then ultimately for TV. And once I do that, You wrote for the onion, now you talk about them. Mitch, it's a great observation. Thank you. But I was doing sort of that. I was doing that stuff like writing for the internet and then writing for the, writing for TV.

And at that same sort of point, I left the video game industry, which I had is kind of a day job while I was doing all this. And then you left the comedy industry now, you talked so much. Now I do podcasts about fast food. But yeah, this is, it's like, yeah, I did that for a bit and then we started Doe Boys in 2015.

I don't know, I don't know. I feel like you did a good job of answering that question, but it's basically that I was just kind of chipping away at it for a while, doing this aside thing while it was worth doing video games and then ultimately had some opportunities actually. And you find people that you like that do it too. And you hang around them and they do it

and they can inspire you and do stuff with you, and that's helpful. But ultimately, it seems like you do have to do something that other people see in order to have some sort of connection to it, whether that's putting it on stage or making it be or would have you. But I do want David to answer, but immediately, I want you to share your story as well,

like how you kind of got into this industry, and why you decided to pursue this. And why you ended up here? Yeah, why you're waiting for us. Good, I guess for myself that question every day. Well, first off, that first question that you asked, what food would taste better with calm on it? Honestly, side-car donuts.

That would be an improvement for some. Yeah. And I was saying to Mitch side car donuts more like side line donuts because they got to stay stick to the side line. I agree. She's 100% right. Dave doesn't approve. Um, okay. So to answer the real question, um,

well, I started out like Mitch doing theater. Yeah. I got. Did he have to get one to get, I got, I was in the, for seventh grade, I auditioned for Cinderella. Wow. And I got Cinderella and I was hooked from then. I was curly and I'll call them on. I caught the bug.

I caught the bug. The acting bug. And yeah, I just did all the plays in high school. We did Cinderella a second time actually. Did you get it? Did you get a try? I got Cinderella. Wow. Rogers and Hammerstein's Cinderella. So I know every my favorite one. It's the best one. And I think you're both Rogers and Hammerstein came to your production, right? Yes, they did. It's a matter of fact. They loved you.

Went to Ithaca. I love you. Went to Ithaca. Different time from Mitch, but park school communications went in for film and TV and actually documentary as well. Came out here, started working for you right away, basically. That's me, David. Yeah, David.

For those listening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I forget that like nobody can see us but um, I think the first week I moved to LA I went on the set for feudal and super gesture. I remember that. I remember me. Yeah. Very, very vividly. Oh, wow. And um, we're you for a little bit at a bottomable and just a little some Hodgepodge jobs here and there. Oh, at the Timonarek production company, absolutely as well.

And here I am working for Doble. Jesus, talk about your resume should be backwards. You're back. You resume should be backwards. Like, you're really, really shivvy. I'll just interject real quick. And I just, because I mean, I'm assuming Ryan that you are, you know, an adult and maybe have a different career right now, because that was kind of my path. And like, I didn't go to film school. I didn't have a paid job in like writing anything until I was 30.

So like, I would just say, I was a math major. I worked in a more of a computer programming slash design profession for a while. There is a path to go that route too. Don't necessarily feel like you're stuck because you didn't go to film school there. But David, I'm curious. I think a lot of people know your story,

but like, yeah, would you like to, how would you characterize? Well, I had a very lucky chain of events, and I feel like everyone's path is different, but for me, I did go to film school, and there I met everyone who's in the state early on, and we started working together as a group, early in college and then

I, we just sort of kept doing it as we graduated and we lucked into having a door into MTV and by the time we were in our early 20s we were doing that show. Right. So it was really, and we knew at the time how lucky and fortunate that was, but also we were awesome. And then, but, you know, and then it's been up and down ever since then, you know, and we, after that show, I was unemployed for three years and then eventually made wet American summer. And, but it's been, you know, an adventure of, of struggle and success on and off since then. Did you have a point if you're if you're covering what's sharing?

Because I have I know people who are like on a TV show, like we like, like we're like a regular on TV show and then reach a certain board with like, okay, well, I have I have a day job again. Because you know, like it's kind of a feast for famine. Did you have a period after the state where you like kind of went back to a, you know, like a square job? I never had a day job. Which is one of my great shames in life.

I was thinking about this, we were talking about my sisters all worked at Swenson's and all my siblings all worked day jobs and real jobs all the time. And I definitely grew up a little more spoiled. And I had a DJ service when I was in high school and I did magic shows, but I always did things like that. You did magic shows?

I did magic shows when I was 12. Whoa. Yeah, I would go to birthday parties for like six year olds. What was your show stopper? It was the eminent, I had a glass of milk and I would pour the milk in the glass and then I would put a little cone over that and then lift it up and little cone over that and then

lift it up and now it's filled with M&Ms. That's fucking good. That's great. That's great. It's really great. Yeah, and then give it out to the kids. That was the signature calling card. Do you want to do the trick for the doughboys?

Can you do that for us? One day. I literally am sitting here thinking, how does that work? That was pretty cool. All right. You did a magic show recently too, right? I did. I was just mentioning earlier. I cut a woman into three pieces on a stage. You can see it on my social media.

Wow. But then, oh yeah. Just seems like something you'd like. I'm like, I'm a lady up. You want to cut a lady up? No interest in cutting up a lady. But throughout my 20s and 30s, I didn't really have any expenses either.

And so, but I definitely struggled a lot. And I worked my ass off every day hustling, but often to no avail. And then things would come and things would go and still like that. Yeah. That's the thing you never get out of, I guess, in this industry. I guess that's the thing you never get out of, I guess, in this industry.

I guess that's the last thing to leave them on. You can, you can, you can, you highs and lows. And forever. I hope with that, that, that was what you were looking for, Ryan. Um, I did, please share your hopes for future writers and actors to get into the business. I don't really have any real great insights there. Or then I hope it's continued. It becomes a sustainable profession again. Find people that you share a sensibility with. That's a big one. Stick to your guns, that's what I say.

That's great advice. Don't try to sell out first. Well, you also do that too, but that can be nice too. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurant, you need me, Melissa, do boys podcast at gmail.com, or leave us a voice mail at 830 go to that's 830 4636844. And to get the do boys double or weekly bonus episode, join the golden or platinum play club at patreon.com slash do boys. David Wayne, a delight to have you here.

Thank you so much. It's such a pleasure. So nice to see you guys. Yeah. It's great to see you as well. We're a fan of so much of the comedy we created. Of course. The fandom is mutual.

Oh man. We're sorry. We were talking about summer camp earlier, and I had a memory. I haven't thought about it for a long time of like describing a state sketch to other kids at Arrow Bear Music Camp. It was the, it's a sketch where it was like a bunch of international symbols. Do you remember that one? Yeah, yeah.

And I remember talking to these kids and they're like, oh yeah, it's something over there. Oh yeah, the state. I was like, yeah, you seen it, you know. Yeah, it's a, definitely had been a, the thing that's been in my, my life for a long time. So I love that. I love that.

I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. It's so good to be here. Yeah. Man, you probably fucking botched the explanation of that sketch. I pretty much described it just as I did now. Yeah. David and I a not-time-to-be-plugging-anything,

anything you would like to direct people towards? I do have something. I have the Middle-Age dad, Jam Band, which is me and Ken Marino, and a bunch of guests and friends. And it's basically this good-time jam music show that evolved out of just hanging out in my garage and we've been having these really fun shows and now we're touring all over the country. That's fucking awesome.

I know it sounds like a joke but it's true and m-a-d-j-b.com middle-aged dad jam band. Wow, check that out. And the state. And the state is on tour. It's on tour. That's so cool. There you go. Check all that out and that'll do for this episode of Dull Boys. Until next time for the Spoon Memorgon,'s on tour. That's so cool. There you go. Check all that out, and that'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys.

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