Doughboys - Souplantation/Sweet Tomatoes with Kelly Nugent and Lindsay Katai
Episode Date: August 2, 2018The hilarious Kelly Nugent and Lindsay Katai (Public Domain Theater, Teen Creeps) join the 'boys to discuss their recent experience at San Diego Comic Con, and to review a buffet chain specializing in... salads & soups: Souplantation or Sweet Tomatoes. Plus, another edition of Chips Inhale: Res-chew Rangers.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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In the Taoist religion, the sien are legendary beings whose celestial enlightenment enabled
them to transcend human form and achieve immortality.
And in the southern region of China, a cavern named for these fabled spirits, sienren cave,
is where archaeologists discovered pottery dating to 20,000 BC, the earliest known evidence
of cooking bowls used for soup.
Requiring a watertight container that resists direct heat, soup was a relatively late innovation
in the history of cooking.
Originally mostly stocks made from rendered fats, vegetables and seasonings were later
added, and as the concept of soup both spread and was separately invented around the globe,
hot wet variants became staple dishes for virtually every culture.
Minuto in Mexico, borscht in Ukraine, tom yum in Thailand, and in Spain, a modification
of a dish imported by the Roman Empire, gazpacho.
A polarizing chilled soup first made mostly from garlic and olive oil, centuries later
it evolved into its contemporary form with the addition of tomatoes, one of many ingredients
brought to Europe from the Americas that transformed the continent's cuisines.
Spain had established a firm foothold in what Europeans blithely referred to as the
New World, including in what is now California, by establishing missions ostensibly to convert
Native Americans to the Catholicism, but in practice a backdoor arm of colonization.
The California missions ranged from NorCal to SoCal, each named after a saint.
And the southernmost branch was named for San Diego of Ocala, canonized for his own missionary
work, having led earlier efforts to convert the Aboriginal people of the Spanish-conquered
Canary Islands.
By the late 18th century, the success of the mission of San Diego of Ocala sought grow
into the city of San Diego, today colloquial and known as the birthplace of California.
And nearly 200 years later, in 1978, the city became the birthplace of a budget-friendly
buffet chain serving all-you-can-eat portions of soup, salad, and bread.
Founded by a bartender named Dennis J., the concept was bizarrely given a name that's
a portmanteau of soup and the term for estate-sized farms where cash crops are produced, often
by forced labor.
This problematic brand proved unmarketable elsewhere in the country, so as the company
expanded, it renamed its outside of California locations to a more neutral label that didn't
evoke the national shame of slavery.
Today, with nearly 100 locations divided between the two brands, these food service
missions continue to convert ordinary consumers into disciples of soup.
This week on Doe Boys, soup plantation and sweet tomatoes.
Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants.
I'm Nick Weiger.
Alongside my co-host, Hamuel L. Snaksen, Mitchie Two Spoons, Mike Mitchell.
Hamuel, as in a pig or ham.
Yeah.
And then what was it?
Smell?
L. Snaksen.
He could have gone with the middleish.
He could have said Hamuel Smelsnaksen.
I was thinking Hamuel XXL Snaksen, but maybe that was gilding the lily.
That was courtesy of Aiden, who writes, Hi guys, I'm 16 and love the show.
Your guests and of course you guys.
Hope to see you come to Philly and review some cheese steaks.
Thanks to the insult.
Aiden, if you'd like an insult, you have an insult.
You have an insult.
You have an insult.
16, huh?
Show roastspoonman at gmail.com.
Beat the shit out of you.
You've got more action at 16 than you and I have gotten in a lifetime.
That's probably true.
He's funnier than us already.
I'm not going to beat him up.
The problem is I can't beat him up.
Yeah.
Don't threaten a child.
We also probably shouldn't be talking about his sexual conquest.
That was you who brought it up.
I know.
I'm saying we're both.
We both made mistakes here.
He's going to be fine with whatever he does.
He'll do better than us.
Howdy hoed.
Oh my God.
My howdy ho didn't come out.
It didn't come out right.
Why?
All right.
How to Mitchie Two Spoons Nation.
Okay.
Barely came out.
I'm going to play a drop, but we had a little malfunction here that we have edited.
Yes.
Edited.
Jesus.
We'll edit that too.
So far.
Relax.
Everything's fine.
Here it goes.
Here's a drop.
When I worked in my first video game job.
When I was working a video game job.
I used to work in video games.
I was working for a video game company.
When I worked in video games.
When I worked in the video game industry.
I used to work in video games.
When I worked in video games.
I love my mom very much.
That's a sweet one.
It was sweet.
Nice little shout out to Carrie Weiger, a registered nurse of many years.
Now retired, sadly, she couldn't fix the one she loved most.
My older brother.
No, you.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good point.
My dad.
Your last.
Where did the dog rank?
Darrell was above me.
For sure.
Darrell.
I feel like I would rather be trapped along with Darrell than Darrell Weiger than with
Nick Weiger.
Hey, who wouldn't?
That was from Nathan Gordon.
I don't know if you knew about this piece of Nick Weiger history, but I recently discovered
that he used to work in video games.
Did you know this?
I can barely believe it.
Thanks for the laughs.
You're great.
If you use it, please credit werewolf boners on Instagram.
Thanks dude.
Werewolf boners is snarkin.
That's what's going on there.
He's he's let this little snark there.
What do you mean?
He's he clearly compiled this this all the times I've said I worked in the video game
industry and then he's presenting it like some sort of obscure factoid.
Well, listen, if you're going to go after my people, just say you're going to beat
them up like I do to your people.
All right, I'm going to go get my ass kicked by werewolf boners.
Um, hey, hey Mitch.
So, you know, speaking of recordings to play, we also got a voicemail speaking of recordings
to play.
Okay.
It's a segue.
Sure.
Professionals here.
Um, got this ox court is fucking buzzing up like like a storm.
It's like we got a swarm of bees in here.
God, what a nightmare that would be.
You know, bees have gotten into this apartment before.
You know what I do?
Yeah.
Here's a little, uh, uh, here's a little at home advice for you.
There's out there.
I vacuum them up.
Oh, I've heard this trick.
I take a, I take a vacuum.
I know our guests are making faces because it's a horrid death for the bees.
I mean, I wish there was a way to get them and release them into the wild.
There's not, uh, no, there's not in that guest have to be quiet in during this part
of the show.
So, um, so I vacuum on there.
There was a few bees in here.
Right.
You vacuum it on up.
They're like, there's a lot of coming here.
Oh my God.
Jesus.
All right.
I don't vacuum up my, I don't vacuum up that stuff.
I was saying you bake love to the vacuum cleaner.
Oh Jesus.
And use the nozzle as a masturbatory aid.
Hey, uh, let's go ahead and play this voicemail for a frequent friend.
Hey, can you ever plug it in your fucking laptop correctly?
I look, we're, this is going poorly.
Here we go.
This old, this old improve things.
Uh, we got a couple of voicemails.
Let's listen to the first one.
Oh, hey, two spoons.
Hey, double read.
It's John Hodgman in a car driving through Maine.
Uh, thank you so much for playing my last voicemail.
It really made me happy as I was driving in a car and going out of my mind, driving
10 hours to get here to Maine where I am now.
Um, I swear to you that is a jingle that I remember.
I've been looking for it online for a long time.
Maybe I'm losing my mind.
Listen, double read.
Uh, I'm upset with you for getting mad at me for plugging my book Vacation Land out
now and paperback because Mitch is right.
I was really calling just to say hello to you guys, but we live in a world full of crowded
content.
If you believe in your work, you've got to talk about it.
Vacation Land out in paperback now.
That's the way it is.
My primary motivation was to let you guys know how much I enjoy you and to share a jingle
with you.
So yeah, I'm Matt and if you won't come east, Mitch, you come eat.
We'll go to Bigford.
We'll go to Friendly.
We'll go to New York.
We'll go to, uh, we'll go to Golden Crust.
We'll go down south.
We'll go to Waffle House.
Do all the things that Devil Reeve won't do.
You and me and Mitch, come on, let's go on a road trip together.
Um, by the way, Vacation Land out in paperback and also watch the Tick season two.
I mean it, but I don't get any money for saying that.
That's for my friend Griffin Newman.
Don't voice listener.
And host of the, uh, flying check podcast.
Okay, that's it.
Vacation Land out in paperback now.
I love you both.
Bye.
No, no, no, non hostile note.
I didn't actually say, uh, attack John Hodgman for plugging his book.
You said I attacked him.
I did.
I did.
That was you.
It sounds like you're trying to do it again.
No, I'm not about to do it.
He actually, he's a good man.
He called in again.
We got one more.
Hey guys, John Hodgman again calling from a car driving in Maine.
Uh, now I feel gross for plugging my book so hard like that.
So don't, you don't need to, you don't, sorry, a man was telling me to move into a different
lane because they're doing work on the road here in Maine.
They're keeping up the infrastructure.
The point is you don't have to play that voicemail.
I'm just saying hi to you guys.
If you play it, bleep out Vacation Land out in paperback now by John Hodgman.
Leave in the thing about the tick season two because I'm proud of that.
And Griffin Newman would be excited to hear his name in the podcast.
But you don't even have to play it.
And I'm sorry for taking up your time as always, you guys.
I don't know.
I'm just a little main road crazy.
Okay.
I'll talk to you later.
Bye bye.
Double read.
Bye bye.
Double spoons.
Bye bye.
This guy here he is.
He's calling into us.
He's being nice.
He's a little.
He's he's going a little road crazy and then you attack him.
I didn't attack him.
You attacked him.
He's giving us free content, baby.
Oh God.
That's all you think of this.
You sick fuck.
You could can't put a dollar value on viral buzz like John Hodgman calling it.
Sick.
This is sick.
And I will join you, Mr. Hodgman.
You and I will.
And I promise not to call you Mr. Hodgman again.
You can call him by his name.
You and I will travel.
I have respect for him is the difference.
And you and I will travel the coast together.
We'll have fun.
Sounds like a who vacation land out now on paperback.
Also, I used to work in video games.
Hey, let's introduce our guests.
The host of the podcast public domain theater and teen creeps both on the forever dog podcast
network.
Lindsey K tie and Kelly Nugent.
Hi.
Hi.
Thank you so much for making time for us.
Oh, thanks for having us.
Very excited.
Things.
Things started off a little tense here in the Doughboy studio.
Oh, one.
Don't think.
Yeah.
Well, you two have not one, but it was that tense or whatever.
It was fine.
It was fine.
Medium.
Medium tense.
Sure.
It was it was a it was like a rolling rolling silver.
But I'm curious because you guys are a podcasting duo who have not one but two podcasts.
Do you have ever have any any spats, any conflict on air or off?
Don't I say something?
Remember, I called you.
I called you a Vira.
Oh, I called you fake.
Oh, yeah.
You called me.
I called you.
You have me a Vira.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is listen.
Listen.
That you wouldn't.
That our listeners are aware what that means.
It means the highest form of cunt.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
It means like much worse than all caps K.
You and T.
Yeah.
We have a whole cunt scale, which by the way.
Oh, my God.
First time I'm saying this on a microphone.
I did try to copyright it.
You did.
The US government said no.
It wasn't enough to it to copyright.
All right.
You know what?
I'm going to break out that.
I'm going to break up.
I'm going to go back to the California bar.
I'm going to reinstate my bar.
I'm going to fight this for you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
We have we have the teen creeps cunt scale.
First level is all lowercase.
Cunt.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So that means you're not that mean.
Maybe you're just like a step above bitch.
Got it.
Yeah.
You're like four days out from your period.
Yeah.
And then all lowercase C.
Cunt.
Pretty normal cunt.
Upper case C.
Cunt.
More of a cunt.
All caps.
Cunt.
All caps C.
Cunt.
And then we have lower K.
Cunt.
Capital K.
Okay.
All caps K.
Cunt.
And then we have hashtag all caps Vera Vera.
And that was based off of a character in a V.C.
Andrews novel.
My sweet Adriana.
Shout out to my Adriana heads.
Who is like a monster person.
Yeah.
But anyway, I called you that on on air and you didn't like
that.
I didn't love it.
But here we are.
We survived.
We still have two podcasts together.
Yeah.
Was it in jazz?
Wiger's only Vera at this table.
I was trying so hard not to say anything through that
breakdown.
So anyway, way in here is going to be problematic.
Yeah.
We're like, we can say it.
But so but what the the source of this is there is a
particularly vicious or nasty character.
Yes.
Team creeps.
Team creeps covers a lot of like literature written for
what's the sub genre exactly called.
We call it a YA pulp fiction.
Right.
So it's like R.L.
Stein, Christopher Pike.
It's all of that like pulpy horror that like would come
out like once a month.
Right.
Practically.
When I came on your show, we did it was something from it
was the same author as Go Ask Alice.
Yeah.
It was like the boy version of Go Ask Alice, a troubled teen
teen kid.
Yeah.
Air quotes.
Anonymous.
Air quotes.
Anonymous.
But actually written by Mormon Dr. Beatrice Sparks.
Yes.
Right.
Yeah.
Actually, and for the episode you did, I don't think she
did this for Go Ask Alice.
But for the episode you did for the Jays Journal book, she
like took a real life situation and kind of like blew up this
kid's life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She fictionalized this real kind of, I think, tragic thing
that happened.
Yeah.
It was, yeah, it was really, I don't even remember the details
of that.
I just remember it was like shittily written and it was
clearly trying to scare people away from like, you know, the
mildest drug use or sexual experimentation.
Yeah.
And it was very, it was.
Sounds like a good productive book.
Yeah.
I mean, it worked on me.
Yeah.
Well, you were invited on the episode to read it.
I know.
I have it.
I have this book in my, on my phone.
Well, next time you're, you know, any time you have a little
time and before you're about to go sleepy sleeps, you can get that
book out.
Take a look at it.
Take a little peek.
Read it a little.
Let's see here.
Jays Journal.
Yeah.
Here it is.
Oh my God.
Introduction.
Jays Journal.
Okay.
We'll sit quietly while you read.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You guys don't mind, right?
Yeah.
That's how our podcast works.
We don't talk about it.
We just all silently read it.
What, what, what reading level is this, is this book?
Oh, like, yeah.
Eighth grade.
Probably.
Yeah.
A couple months.
Is that why you didn't come on the show?
You're like, Gary, I can't.
It was too confusing.
It was way too confusing.
Mitch's reading level is Prima strategy guide.
Oh, fuck you.
Anything they sell at GameStop, you can get through.
Nintendo.
I used to be a big fan of Nintendo Power.
Me too.
I'd write those from, from cover to the, to the back.
We discussed before we had, we both had issue number one with a
Christian Super Mario.
We both.
Yes.
That's right.
Wait, what is it called?
What is the saying?
Cover to the cover to cover.
Cover to cover.
Cover to cover.
I guess it is something front to back.
Yeah.
It just doesn't seem right.
Cover to cover.
Change it up.
I say.
Okay.
It's had its time.
It's had its time.
Move over.
Cover to end.
Cover to end.
Let's, let's have beginning to end.
Right.
You know what?
No one ever says that.
It's longer.
People like phrases that are longer, more syllables, less symmetry.
People like catchy.
Yeah.
And now is really the time to address this.
Now that the print magazine industry is completely dead.
Hmm.
Let's, let's finally resolve this as you toss it in the fucking grave.
I say.
Audio baby.
It's all audio from here on out.
Audio.
Audio.
Game nerds.
Audio.
As we all know, we get our news from audio now.
Hey nerds, books are done.
It's fucking dead.
D-E-D.
I don't care if you're reading words off a page or off a screen or off the ticker.
While you're watching the cable news, you're wasting your time.
It's audio baby.
Audio now.
People hate visuals.
Get your, get rid of your eyes.
Yeah.
Just dead weight.
So it was just a Comic-Con this past weekend as of this recording, it'll, it'll, it'll
will be about a week and a half away from when this episode released.
But all three of you were there.
I was right there.
S-E-C-C.
I want to hear these hot Comic-Con scoops.
Okay.
Play it on me.
Oh my God.
Okay.
What are the hot scoops?
Oh.
Hot scoops.
That was such a like, I'm a cool uncle and I sit backwards in a chair way to ask that.
All right.
Let me just turn my chair around the other way around here.
No.
Very self-conscious.
Well, an actual hot scoop for me is that the teaser to the show I write on premiered
at the Cartoon Network panel I write on a show called the Infinity Train.
Very cool.
Premiering 2019.
Very cool.
That was, that was a hot scoop.
I don't know if I, I don't know if I have any scoops.
I didn't get to, when I went a couple of years ago, we went, Nick.
Yes.
We went as Doughboys.
Right.
We sat there about five people came up to us.
We did.
Yeah, we did.
On the floor.
It was a very disorganized thing from our old, from our old podcast network.
I did, I did, I did a, I was promoting Jordan's show, Bubble.
My friend Jordan Morris.
Yes.
Yes.
The podcast that's out now.
And we, we took, we took picture.
We like, we went upstairs and we took pictures and the whole walking dead cast was there
and we were sitting in seats.
And I'm like, they were probably like, who are these dorky podcasts looking folks who
are, who are sitting in these seats.
And I hate the fantastic beast cast came up there.
Jude Law, Nick.
Jude Law.
King of, he's one of the King of the hunks, right?
Yeah.
Jude Law.
He's super hunky.
He is a hunk.
Eddie Redsman.
Yeah.
I think his Robo Hunks status in AI.
That's a lot of fun.
Oh yeah.
I like his sexy Pope.
Yeah.
Hunk status.
Yeah.
They were, they were, we made all them stands too.
They were standing.
And then Zoe Kravitz was there and it was funny because you got off the elevator.
Is she in Fantastic Beasts?
She is.
Yeah.
And when you got off the elevator to this floor, there was a quote that was, I wish
that I could fly up so fire up in the sky, like a dragon fly, like it was Lenny Kravitz.
Like his like his lyrics.
And I was like, oh, she had to get off the elevator and see like her dad's dumb quote.
She probably loved it.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
He's done well.
I'm not trying to, I mean, it's just, it's a bad, it's a bad line, right?
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
It's fine.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I want to get away.
Yeah.
I want to fly away.
Yeah.
Fly away.
Yeah.
You know, it's not, it's not the worst lyric ever written, but it's, it's not nothing,
anything to stand up.
But hey, sure.
As long as he's got that huge hog of his, he can write whatever he wants.
He says that bad boy keeps tearing through those leather pants.
Mitch, while the, well, the cast of Fantastic Beasts were there.
Did anyone mistake you for Hagrid?
Hagrid?
Wow.
From Harry Potter?
Young Hagrid.
Young Hagrid.
Okay.
I don't know the lore well enough.
It's Young Sexy Hagrid.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
So wait.
So you guys were down there beyond, beyond the scoops.
My understanding is that, let's actually take a step back because you mentioned your show
K-Tie.
This is a job that I think Mitch maybe had something to do with like making a connection
that could get you in.
Yeah.
Am I correct about this?
Yeah.
Hey, I wasn't, I didn't tell them to bring this up.
Change my damn life.
Every time I see Mitch now, I'm like, thank you so much.
You changed my life.
Everything's better now.
Right.
My dream job.
And you, you sent a very nice gift that we could have used a Lowry's gift certificate.
Yes.
And I never saw it because I'm terrible with email and then.
Also, you have an AOL email.
I have an AOL email address.
Yes.
Have you drawn attention to that fact on the podcast before?
We actually, a couple, a while back we had, I almost had a couple of years, it might literally
have been a couple of years.
We had a contest to guess Mitch's email address and the guy who won like came like 40% close
because it's impossible to guess assemblage of letters and numbers.
A robot came up.
Exactly.
You got like the auto-generated AOL suggestion in like 1997 and never changed it.
It's got like 47 numbers in it.
It's great.
Yeah.
It's great.
I've probably lost millions of emails.
And there are other Mike Mitchell's who get, who just have like normal Mike Mitchell
emails and Yahoo's and they people, they email them and then they email me and are like,
hey, I think that was just one Mike Mitchell, but it's true a couple of times and it was
for a job.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I was like, oh man, that's the nightmare that you, that you're afraid of.
Yeah.
Is this, is this happening?
Yeah.
Which is more important at your privacy or your career?
Yeah.
Neither.
But wait.
So this, this, this, this gift card was languishing in your inbox for like months like on,
I still haven't used it yet.
This is an E gift card.
Yeah.
Passed on my writing packet.
How do you use it?
Put it on your phone and then they scan it.
You know what?
This was 12 years ago, so I don't remember.
Yeah.
It was, I will say it was a real shitty interface.
And so I wouldn't have been surprised even if you had a normal email address.
If you still didn't get it because it was so weird.
It was strange.
Yeah.
And Nick, we could still use it.
I don't know if there's a expiration date on it, but.
No.
Is it a year or two?
Is it a year or two?
Are there to be expiration dates now?
Yeah.
California at least.
I did nothing but a hand on a very talented person's resume.
I didn't do anything.
That's so.
But yeah.
You're doing that changed my life.
That's very nice.
I owe everything to you.
Oh God.
Like not true.
I am going to have to save your life at one point.
You may have to do that tonight.
Yeah, we'll just do it tonight.
I'll bring him to the brink of death.
You can bring him back.
Do you have paddles?
You can resuscitate me tonight.
Yeah.
I do carry them with me everywhere.
I wanted to mention this.
So you were talking about a life changing experience.
I had a life changing experience at SDCC in which I was had received an email.
I was going to go down on the train and I received an email that was like, just so
you know, it's going to be crazy on this train.
There's going to be standing room only blah, blah, blah.
Like you're not going to be able to find seats.
So my friend and I, my friend Patrick and I just get on a train.
The first train we see that's leaving at the same time.
And we've already bought tickets and these people in these Amazon Prime shirts,
like each hand us Herschel backpacks.
And we're like, this is interesting.
Oh, Herschel must.
There must be like trying to butter people up because everybody hates Amazon now.
And then so we sit down and there's like tons of room.
And it's super nice and like really open.
And we open our backpacks and there's like three to $400 worth of swag in it with
like a like a hotspot, like a mobile battery charger.
And the most important thing in it was Amazon VIP press badge.
And each of us had one and we're like, oh, this is not, this is not for us.
We are not one of the like people in here.
We have no connections to any press situation.
And so we're like, okay, we'll just like play it cool, play it cool.
And there's like, then this woman that's like a representative from Amazon
starts walking around and she's like, we can hear her being like, hi,
what media outlet are you from?
And we're like, ah, my friend gets out his computer and we make a fake Google
doc of like work that we're like very busy working on.
And it's just like random.
We're like, okay, what are we going to ask the panelists for this thing
and like that thing?
And we're just like making up all these ideas.
The, um, I love that you guys are like, oh, what do journalists do?
Google docs.
We had no idea what to do.
Yeah, we were just like Google docs on his computer.
I had like a little piece of paper out with a marker and I was just like
writing things.
And then, uh, the woman comes over and she's like, uh, hi, what, uh,
media outlet are you from?
And I was like, and I just named two places, which I will not name here
because I have done work for them, but I do not work for them.
Right.
And she was like, okay, great.
And then she turns to my friend and she's like, oh, we've met.
And he's like, yes, we have.
And she's like, okay, great.
Um, and we're like, ah, just one of those faces.
Like, yes.
And she leaves.
They feed us lunch and then, um, our stop comes and none of them are
getting off and we're like, oh no.
So we stay on the train.
So this is all, this is all happening on the train.
This is for three hours that like I'm faking a Google doc for three
hours.
Also, he was like, I'm never sending you that Google doc.
I'm never sharing it with you.
Please convince him to send it and then post it on the media.
And then, uh, so then we, uh, we have to stay on the train until they go
and we're like, okay, we'll just peel, peel away from them.
And they're like, all right, guys, um, if you could follow us,
we're going to have you all get on this shuttle to the next location.
And we're like, oh my God.
So this whole plan where he was going to like bend down and get in his
backpack and like I was going to like be searching in there and we'd be
like, oh, we'll catch up with you later.
We peel off.
We don't even have to do that.
Get, uh, we were just like free and we're like, oh, yes, yes, yes.
This is great.
And then we're like, okay, we got to use this press badge.
So it was at this Amazon party the last night that you were also at.
Yeah.
Um, and I just RSVP through an email.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like certain people had like an RSVP thing, but there was a line and
I did not want to wait in that line.
So I went up and I was like, um, hi, I have a press badge.
It's like a VIP thing.
Like, can I, and like, all right, uh, we're going to have a PR person check you
in the back and then like, so then we go in the back and we again have a plan
where my friend Patrick is pretending to be on the phone.
And if I signal him something very bad has happened and he needs to go.
So I'm like, I go up and this girl's like, hi, uh, what's your name?
I can just bring you in.
So I was like, great.
Bring in.
Then as soon as we're right inside, she's like, what media outlet are you from?
And I was like, uh, and she has a little tablet in front of her.
And I'm like, uh, and I just say a name.
She is searching for it.
She doesn't find it, but she just like marks me in right.
And then she turns to him and she's like, what media outlet are you from?
And he just stares at her for a long time.
And I was like, uh, he's with me.
And she's like, yeah, but I need to know his media outlet.
I'm like, Oh God, this is screwed.
He finally like just named some rando thing.
She lets us in.
And this is where I kind of turned into a psycho.
Cause she's like walking with me and she's like, I'm so sorry about like all of this.
Like it's just like, it has to be so strict cause like people are trying to sneak in and blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, girl, what nightmare?
Oh my God.
I can't believe that.
And then like she was having trouble with the kiosk and like wasn't able to make it work.
And she's like, I'm so sorry.
And I was like, do not even stress.
Like it happens to all of us.
Don't worry.
And the whole time my friend is looking at me like a monster is born.
I don't know.
And I was like, girl, what people would try and sneak into this place.
And then we got in and I have never felt more powerful.
Just like being a con woman.
Yeah.
This is like David Mamet's Comic Con.
There's like so many layers to it.
Cause you know what you weren't even trying to swearing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Motherfucker a lot.
Get Bezos on the line.
We won't stand for this.
We knew there was one.
We won't stand for this shit.
So I like barely got into the sci-fi VIP party,
even though I'm like hanging out with my friend who's the co-EP of Krypton.
It was so funny when you were talking about that.
By the way, I know the co-EP of Krypton.
The way he was like, um, hi, can I like, whereas like I went full psycho and was
like, hi, I'm a VIP.
Can I get into this party?
Like it was a very different like vibe.
I think I realized I turned like kind of psycho if I have a tiny bit of power.
This is so I feel like I would go to the same lengths to avoid going to a party.
Sounds like a true night.
I went to a party and it was a true nightmare.
I didn't want to.
I didn't want.
I went because I was doing the right thing.
I went to it to do the right thing.
Social obligation.
Yeah.
Social obligation.
I got you.
But I had to go.
I had to go to Macy's and buy an outfit because the people we were with,
like very politely, she was like, it's a little more like dressed up than what
I look like.
Oh God.
And I was like, all right.
So I went to Macy's.
Excuse me.
I'm young Hagrid.
Yeah.
I'm supposed to be wearing this robe.
So I went to Macy's.
I bought a I bought a pair of jeans and a shirt and then was the shirt at Terry
Rozier Jersey.
I wish it would have been great.
It would have looked great.
We had it.
We had to take pictures like we had to take pictures on a red carpet,
which also another thing you would hate to.
I mean, it's a terrifying.
I don't like to see a picture.
I don't like to see the Doughboy picture of myself.
I don't want to see every fucking week.
I'm so glad you song handles the social media now.
I don't have a look at my fucked up face every time we upload a guest photo,
but I was a I was sweating through my shirt.
Yeah.
So it was very hot.
So I had a I had to leave my shirt.
I left my shirt like open and there was a young Hagrid style.
The young Hagrid.
I think there was a lot of people in the like at this red carpet thing that
was like, who is this extremely confident fat guy?
You mean open like all the way down like almost all like to my belly button.
Like I was sweating through the shirt.
I had to have it dry.
That's like a boogie night's move.
Uh-huh.
That's so crazy.
It looked way more confident than I am.
I was just trying not to I was trying not to sweat,
but that was it.
You know, my favorite part of the night was going home and going to bed.
Yeah.
Honestly, the thing is that I had I not had that badge and wanted to
Icarus my situation.
Right.
Successfully.
I would not have gone to any parties.
Like I love staying in and not going out.
Yeah.
And like it just in my mind, like my dream situation is like go work the
panels that I had to work, see some cool stuff and go to my be in my hotel
room by like 930.
Oh, right.
I forget.
Yeah.
You had to like work this.
It's weird because I always think of people just attending it,
but like a lot of people to have to do work at this.
They have like like a press and et cetera to do.
It's just that seems like an added layer of stress.
Yeah.
You worked a ton Kelly.
I know I am the walking.
I didn't want to.
I'm undead right now.
I didn't want to plug walking dead.
I hate that that happened.
No.
Yeah.
One of the panels was like teaching people how to get into tabletop
RPGs and the other one was weird because it was cool and it was fun,
but I did not know it would be this.
They were like, Oh, we're going to have you do some like short form
improv.
Oh, man.
Which already at Comic Con.
And then it turned out it was just me and one other guy.
Oh, no.
Oh, very bold move.
Yeah.
To book a two prof of people that don't play together.
Right.
Cool.
Especially if it's like a comic con, but it was fine.
It was fun and the audience was supportive, but it was very strange.
Right.
Because sometimes if you don't, you get, you get like that,
especially with like improv comedy, but any kind of comedy of like audience
that's not really paying attention.
It's just like, oh, it's a nightmare.
I did something like that earlier in the day.
It was it was not improv, but it was.
Yeah.
Today.
No, no, no.
At Comic Con.
I mean, I guess that's what you both did improv at Comic Con.
No, I did not do it.
I did not do it.
I did like a comedy ish cooking show.
It was in a was it in a hall?
Oh, that's more.
Yeah.
It was in the big hall and it was a marvel's eat the universe.
And I had to make a fantastic for what you what you would call it caprese salad.
Did you get this gig through do it?
No, no.
This was all.
This was all bubble, all bubble promotion bubble, but you're doing food based content
without me.
Oh my God.
Welcome to the last episode of do boys.
Wow.
All right.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Get used to it, buddy.
But it is weird, right?
Like trying to do comedy things.
Oh, no one's paying attention to you.
It's terrible.
Can I ask you what was in this?
Because caprese salad.
I think of having three key ingredients.
You're saying it's a fantastic for salad.
What made it?
That's right.
Oh, there was there was a little olive oil that was a little that had a little habanero
in it or whatever.
Something like that.
Yeah.
And then the the the vinegar was like was like solid.
It was like a little like jello gel.
Oh, that's fun.
For the invisible lady.
And then the tomatoes were the thing because they looked weird.
And then the cheese was was Mr. Fantastic because it's stretched and then I he put
like blue food dye in the cheese and I asked it up into the cheese.
Oh, yeah.
I know.
This is a pot.
This was for the podcast bubble.
Yes.
This is all very confusing.
It's very complicated.
It's very complicated.
And they got a food thing.
Can I?
Marvel at Comic Con?
Yes.
Can I just the bottom line is I didn't have fun and I wish I was one.
Actually, that's not true.
I saw Jordan.
I like I love seeing Jordan Morris.
A bunch of other fun people down there.
But I never get to do that otherwise.
And I got a couple California burritos.
Nick, I stopped in Encinitas at Juanita.
This is my favorite California burrito.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
You've you've been to Juanita's.
Yeah.
Well, I lived in San Diego for two years.
Okay.
Did did the stop on the way down and up because I'm from the LA area.
Okay.
And so like, yeah, I love that place.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah.
I grew up in San Diego and don't know what you're talking about.
It's an entity.
Encinitas is a little bit.
It's, you know, 20, you know, Encinitas, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a fly in here, Nick.
I know.
Vacuuming.
I can't vacuum the flies are too fast moving.
What is this?
The question for you about this.
Yeah.
Your your B your beekeeping.
Yes.
Method.
Because we had to shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
And I need to revisit it because we probably, you know, I don't know if it's in the rules
to revisit what said before.
No, no, no.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I just don't want you to poke holes in this.
No, no, no.
I have a question about what would you suggest for a person who is having a wasp issue?
Vacuum.
Vacuum?
No.
They'll blanket.
They'll sting my vacuum.
No.
I mean, like if they're, what do you like the brave little toaster?
All of your stuff is a lot.
I'm afraid.
They're so scary.
Wasps are extra mean.
They are mean.
They're just sitting with the bees or whatever.
And I've had a wasp in here too before.
By the way, it is John Strictly bees.
What's wrong with your apartment?
It was the old AC.
They used to be able to come in like through the vent at some points.
So, so when they were just sitting there, I'd vacuum it.
I felt bad.
I like bees.
I want to get them outside, but they're there.
I tried to capture one.
It was just too hard.
Nick, were you going to say it's like an episode of Breaking Bad?
Yeah, I was going to say this is like the dope boys that me winning go boys directed by
Ryan Johnson.
Oh, that's okay.
It's all right.
We didn't need to revisit it.
Which by the way, you know what?
We want you to have your shining room.
Isn't that called a bubble episode?
It is a bubble episode.
Here we go.
Where's it?
There you go.
Synergy.
I've also heard bottle episode.
Oh, bottle episode.
Oh, that's what it is.
Bottle.
My brain goes, yeah, that sounds right.
And then it just says it.
And by the way, that episode kind of a snooze, if you ask me.
Oh boy, you're going anti-fly.
Anti-green.
Wow.
Wow.
He's a bore.
Controversial.
Text chain about this the other day.
And there were people who agreed that fly is a bore.
I saw it once when it aired and I remember being like, oh, this is interesting.
But I'll revisit it.
I mean, I won't revisit it, but I'd like to see what I thought if I revisit it.
Look, great breaking bad is one of the best shows of all time.
I don't like breaking bad.
But I will say this.
I don't want like a Sopranos, like I think Sopranos could do that more so than breaking
bad.
Right.
Like I feel like that's more of a Sopranos episode.
Sopranos had some self-indulgent ones though, where it was just like Tony, like having
a dream and he was just like, you know, going to a butcher shop and his third grade teacher
was there.
Say it again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, like, I don't know.
I get the instinct to do that because I think, honestly, I think doesn't every TV show, every
serialized drama have too many episodes?
Isn't that the issue?
Sure.
Don't they need like some that just treading water?
Your podcast doesn't have too many episodes.
I can't think of any.
That used to be the case, but now it's like the only of like 13 episodes.
Right.
They had like 24 episodes.
Yeah.
That's right.
But shouldn't it really just be like six?
Isn't that isn't that enough?
Shut up.
You just don't like anything.
I just want to get through everything as quickly as possible.
They're only including life.
Yeah, exactly.
I got my eye on the finish line.
I've been taking a knee since I turned 21 to run out the clock.
I have a hard time believing you were really a wild man before 21.
But that fantastic for that there was like a solid vinegar, which I tried on its own
and it was I thought you were going to say something about that, but I was just
going to say I used to, you know, I used to work in video games actually worked on
a couple of fantastic for games.
Fantastic for one and fantastic for Rise of the Silver Surfer, the video game
adaptations of the first or the first two bad, fantastic for movies of the
2000s.
I never played any fantastic for games.
I mean, don't they're bad.
That's okay.
I mean, why would you?
Yeah.
So were they like the what are they like first person?
Well, how do you play them?
Are you the four?
These are both PS that they were like PS two era games.
So it was at the above view of the four.
Yeah, it was kind of akin to a yeah, the the what were the Marvel Ultimate
Alliance was like a more successful version of it.
Legend.
Yeah, exactly.
They were they're kind of like, you know, but kind of beat them up games.
Fantastic.
Very easy.
Yeah, they were.
Yeah, they were intentionally accessible to everyone.
You worked on video games for PlayStation 2.
Yeah.
Yes.
You fucking oldest.
Wait a minute.
You're 73.
Reverse those digits.
Yeah, that's the first snapper Mitch over here.
Doesn't understand your old Switch generation.
No, I got my first.
I got my first got job in video games when I was I think 23.
So I went like they spent most of my 20 on 37.
Now I spent most of my 20s working in the video game industry.
I got a design job when I was 24.
And so yeah, about about five years, I spent I was I was doing that.
And yeah, if you do that, you do the math, it was like, I worked on the I worked on
fantastic for video games.
I worked on a Shrek video game briefly.
I worked on my most ignoble credit.
Sopranos Road to Respect.
That's right.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Can I just say that?
Oh, there was and it is unplayable.
Can I just say that you have like a Benjamin Button career and that your jobs are getting
worse as you get older.
It's like, yeah, it's it's like I have like kind of a forest gump arc, except
everything I've touched has been unsuccessful, including this podcast.
But yeah, no disagreement.
And the hot garb.
Yeah, you guys are here.
You know, it is a mess.
And what else did I work on?
Oh, Pirates of the Caribbean, the Legend of Jack Sparrow, which is probably the game
I worked on that I'll I'll most say is like, it's good.
It's all right.
But it's like the year on every single one of these.
They are right.
Dated.
Exactly.
Yeah.
100% you worked on a lot of like adaptations, like not like original IP.
The company I worked for that was when now the now defunct company called Seven Studios
was a developer and that's what they did.
It was they did license games primarily that a few original games and then those.
I mean, it's just harder to get an original game made like it is with any.
It's hard to get an original piece of content made in any medium.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was mostly what they did.
And mostly it was like these projects were rushed and understaffed and under budgeted
and they were never they never had a chance.
But what are you going to do?
It sounds great.
Yeah.
It was something to do.
Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, if you're compiling a fucking defamatory drop, you want to use the top of the show
of all the times I mentioned I worked in the video game industry.
You got something else for you.
I love that.
I love that.
But I wasn't thinking about that for like forty three minutes.
Right.
That's what I do.
You know what?
I played for soprano's road to respect.
And now one of the sequences makes sense when Tony's like Christopher, come in here.
Enjoy a hot salad with me first.
It's strange.
It's like, oh, it doesn't happen.
It's in venture.
So San Diego San Diego Comic Con where Katie is from where Kelly lived where I briefly lived
for summer internship.
The only time I've lived in Southern California my whole life.
That was the only time I lived out of LA County.
And wow.
And is also the place.
Something to be proud of.
It's pretty exciting.
Right.
It's also the city where are this week's chain originated supplantation.
What?
Yes.
And also it's it's mostly known as sweet tomatoes.
Actually, most of the locations nationwide are sweet tomatoes.
Rightfully so.
Yeah, because supplantation is an awful name.
It didn't start in Tennessee.
No, it started in San Diego.
My mind is working.
It's crazy.
You know what though?
I could see them being far enough away from like thinking that they're far enough away
from like a terrible history.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a cute name.
They just like the Portmanteau.
They had no idea that they didn't like connect that it that it was a that any sort of problematic
connotation.
So yeah, basically California is the only place where it's still called supplantation
everywhere else, Washington State, Oregon, Florida.
There's a lot of locations in Florida, a few in the Midwest and South.
It's called sweet tomatoes, but it is the same chain.
It's the same brand.
They have the same stuff.
If you go to the sweet, if you go to the the supplantation, the sweet tomatoes website,
every all the copy and everything is unified.
They just changed the they just changed the brand.
I gotta say sweet tomatoes makes zero sense as a name for for this chain.
Both names are bad.
Yeah, both are bad sweet tomatoes.
I don't like it.
They're not.
It's not heavy on tomatoes.
Also not a thing.
Also not.
Yeah.
Oh, I love a good sweet tomato.
I do.
The people like when tomatoes are sweet.
So I get that, but I don't.
You're not like.
Oh, have you seen my sweet tomato vine?
Tomatoes just don't feature heavily.
It's a play.
I got a name.
What is it?
Ruffage City.
Doesn't have a lot of Ruffage there.
A lot of bread, too, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or like I said, my boyfriend calls it bread and cheese factory.
Yeah.
Which I think is a more appropriate.
Yeah, completely.
That fly.
This fly is being a little punk.
He's kind of maniacal.
He's getting in my face.
Swagger.
I'm waiting for you to deliver a lengthy monologue meditating on life and death.
He'll come out at some point.
Breaking.
Yeah.
So so it's it's the neither of the names makes sense.
My guess with sweet tomatoes is that they they were going to expand and they
just had to come up with something else on a hurry.
And we're just like, oh, if I get sweet tomatoes and the only I don't
understand it creates a feeling.
And I like, you know, I bet people were like sweet tomatoes.
Doesn't that make you think of like healthiness?
Right.
It was the 80s.
Right.
So everyone's like, yeah, because vegetables.
So because vegetable vegetables.
I feel like what is like a like sweet, the bread is sweet.
The bread is sweet.
Sweet.
Yeah, sweet.
Sweet bread.
You can't call it sweet bread.
No, no, no.
The bread is sweet.
That's what it's called.
Okay.
The bread is sweet plantation.
No.
Oh boy.
Right.
We wanted to.
We wanted to.
So this is it's it's a place that I went to a lot as a kid because it is it would,
you know, they opened one in my hometown.
And it was a great for me, you know, a kid with a big appetite.
It was a lot of fun to just go and like load up my plate and like get a get a whole bunch
of salad.
But then also they have like, you know, pizza breads, they have muffins, they have soups.
You can get multiple fucking little little cauldrons of soup and no one's going to like
call you out.
And like, and what are their context?
You can get multiple soups.
It's normally an insane thing to do at a restaurant, but it's perfectly tops.
Yeah.
It's perfectly fine to do it.
And one is daily.
They were there more cauldrons in there than sixteen hundred Salem.
Nice.
Nice.
Nice.
I was hoping you'd get like a witch hunt.
Joke in tonight.
Fingers crossed.
I'm from that area.
I'm from that era.
I'm a witch power like her ready to go.
No, I did not.
That was that.
I just came.
That was my.
Hey, that was improv.
Nice.
Mitch would never take notes for this.
You're right.
That was stupid.
Sixteen hundred Salem.
Mmm.
Was it before or after that?
I feel like sixteen.
I thought sixteen seemed like the closest to go.
This is a dumb quote.
No.
Yeah.
Okay.
Never mind.
It already is.
I'm not going to say it.
I was going to see more people in America.
Like what?
Oh my God.
Where are those colonial people in America in the sixteen hundreds, but they were.
Let's not worry about it.
All right.
So oh wait.
Hold on a second.
Mmm.
Of witchcraft between February night, sixteen ninety two.
I was right.
I was right.
Just got in there on the cusp.
The place I visited multiple times as a boy.
I should have some, some information.
Mmm.
The thing about soup plantation is that there is, especially if you're a kid.
Yeah.
There's like the illusion of choice.
Like you think, oh, I could have like anything.
Right.
But there's like eight things and one is a salad bar.
Yes.
There's like pizza, soup.
Mm hmm.
Dessert.
Mm hmm.
Muffins.
Muffins.
Mmm.
Potatoes.
Potatoes and salad.
Butter.
Pasta.
Okay.
Now we're gonna be fucking pasta.
Oh God.
Shitty pasta is right.
Shitty pasta.
And this is, this is post expanding their menu.
Cause I remember when it, when the, the location first opened in our hometown or in my hometown,
it was like, like it was basically just soup and salad and bread.
They didn't have pasta at first.
It was, they didn't have the piece of bread.
They should have kept it that way.
Yeah.
They just kept it very, it was, it was very minimal, but it still felt like a lot.
It still felt like a bounty.
I remember a very early visit for, for me, I went and for some reason, I don't remember
exactly what it was.
I think my mom might have stepped out of line to, or stepped ahead to take out a bad bread.
Wow.
So you need to smack her back.
No, hold on.
Hold on.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Not metaphorically, literally.
Longer family sounds like Salem.
Wow.
Literally stepped out of line.
We were in line together.
My mom physically moved from the line.
Sure.
I wasn't saying.
Which was against your rules.
No, hold on.
Get back in everybody in line.
Yeah.
And you laid down the law.
Yeah.
And you laid down the law.
King of your family.
Mommy, I gave you one rule.
Mommy.
One instruction.
You can't follow that.
Nicky boy is mad.
I would never talk back to mother.
So we had a, so my mom had a, she had, she had moved out of the line real quick.
I think maybe to pay or maybe to pick out a beverage.
And so her tray was next to mine.
And I was just like sliding her tray while, cause the way the place works is that you
get a tray and then it's cafeteria style.
People know what cafeteria works, but there's, there's a very long salad bar as soon as you
get in.
Very long.
And then you're, you're just sort of navigating your tray through it.
You know, sliding it along, putting on what toppings.
So I had my mom's tray was to, was to the right of mine.
And I was sliding my own tray and like pushing my mom's tray along.
But I didn't realize that the edge of the bar was coming up.
And I toppled my mom's tray over and like all the salad dumped on the floor and the
plate shattered.
And I just like, I just like collapse.
Like I was just like so embarrassed.
I was like humiliated.
And you started eating it off the floor.
I can't fix this.
I can't fix this.
I can't fix this.
Mother, I'll clean it up.
Mother, I'm a good boy.
Little Nicky is taking care of it.
Little Nicky.
I think because it was so crushed, like so visibly crushed, like no one was mad.
And I kept just, I just remember the whole, the whole dinner, I just like couldn't even
eat.
And I was just like, I just kept asking my dad, like if he had to pay for the plate because
it felt so bad.
I'm just picturing you like, like in pieces at the cashier and the cashier is just like,
yeah, this kid.
Oh, everyone's like, this is all there's something wrong with your son here we need to talk about.
This is like your, speaking of San Diego Comic Con, this is like your, your spills origin
story.
We'll take a break.
We'll be back with more Dough Boys.
Welcome back to Dough Boys.
We're here with Lindsey K. Tai and Kelly Nugent from Teen Creeps.
And we are discussing suplantation slash sweet tomatoes.
So we went, I went a couple of times.
The first visit I went to for, and I'm speaking in terms, I'm speaking for this episode.
I've been, I went a bunch as a kid, but that I went twice for the purpose of this podcast
because I hadn't been in about 10 years.
And you know what?
Natalie, my lovely wife, wanted to go.
So he went to the Brentwood location together.
And then the four of us sitting in this podcast studio went to the, the Atwater location in
LA last night and evaluated that as well.
Like, what, what, what, how frequently, because, because I was there at Lindsey and Kelly, you
guys were there first.
I showed up.
We were waiting on Mitch a little bit.
The, you guys, I was sick last night.
I know you had a reasonable, you had a reasonable excuse to be late for once.
But so, but you seem like, you seemed like pros, like you had coupons there.
You were like, you had the deals.
This is a place that, that you visit with some frequency.
Well, I am a member of club veg.
As am I.
Right.
And so I, the, I have said before that one of the few promotional emails I keep are
supplantation coupons.
I just leave them in my inbox and I know I can always find them.
I don't actually go that often though.
I went more when I lived in Atwater village.
I would go like every, I don't know, few months, not that frequently.
So I hadn't been for a while, uh, except that I went like twice in two months
recently.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I usually go about, yeah, like once every month and a half I'll go, uh, cause I live,
I live like over on that end of the city.
Um, yeah, it is a pretty good frequency.
It's the weird thing is, is that I don't really think it's good.
Right.
I just like it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the weirdness of supplantation.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Go for it.
I have a little distance between myself and supplantation, so I don't care as much I think
as everyone else.
This was, this was your first visit.
I'm not mistaken.
This was my second visit.
Your second visit.
Uh-huh.
I've been, I think just one other time.
Got it.
Mm-hmm.
What did you feel?
It's just a funny, like it's a funny, weird place to me.
It's like a fake buffet.
It's a fake buffet.
I mean, like, it's like a let down of a, I mean, like that's the funny thing to me is
that like, if I'm like, oh, I'll go to a buffet or whatever.
And I guess like the plus sides is that it's like cleaner and more accessible than other
buffet.
Like I feel like other buffets are like in weird parts of cities and or like weird cities
or whatever.
They need so much like real estate to have all the different stations here.
It's just soup, salad, the bread and dessert and bread, including like the baked potato
and the pastas and everything.
But I was like, there was a shock when I like, first when you, first of all, when you first
go in and you're like, oh, here's a salad bar immediately and you don't even talk to
anyone.
You're just going, you're off.
It's disorienting.
It's disorienting.
And then.
There's so much.
There's so much there.
There's so much there.
Salad choices.
Yeah.
An insane amount of salad choices.
And then you get through and you're like, all right, like, where's like the main stuff?
And then you're like, oh, they're like, isn't there just isn't any main stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's, that's kind of how that's, that's was what how my night started with when
I got, when I got in there.
It really is, it's basing a buffet concept off of the stuff that you would ignore at
most buffets.
You're exactly right.
Cause that's the thing at a regular buffet, people are like, get me to the prime rib,
get me to the like, um, but you know, they do have the pizza, which people do like.
And I was going to say pasta, but the pasta at soup plantation is the worst pasta I've
eaten, and it is the worst pasta every single time.
And I always try it to check, is it still the worst and the answer is always yes.
Yeah.
We were talking about that.
And first we were like, do that mac and cheese nasty.
Yeah.
And I was like, but girl, every time you go, do you not get that mac and cheese?
You have to make sure you have to.
And it's nasty every time the, the pasta is overcooked and very wet, but not with sauce.
No.
Yeah.
It has, it has so little flavor.
I mean, I did all three of the posses were so fucking bland.
Right.
Yeah.
So bad.
Yeah.
Fettuccine Alfredo in particular, it was as if it was subtracting flavor.
Yeah.
My mouth.
It was a void of flavor.
Yeah.
It looked like it was, and they really like, you know, they, they call it like a four cheese
Fettuccine Alfredo.
Like they really like try to lean in on how cheesy it is.
It has no cheese.
It's just like, it's just like egg noodles and margarine.
It's so.
Yeah.
It has to be.
Yeah.
Because it's not buttery even.
And it's not even salted.
Yeah.
It's, it's just nothing.
It is soft and wet.
It is worse than plain white rice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like plain white rice.
Yeah.
I like white rice.
There's something to appreciate in that.
There's nothing to appreciate.
It is bad.
Well, I will say I kind of like the gummy like rubber band texture.
There's something about that.
That's kind of appealing.
It has no flavor, but it just like, like the texture makes you want to chew on it.
Well, that's why I really like the chicken.
I agree.
It's not rational because it's like a thick, chewy noodle right, but that's like the only
plus side of the pastas and then, but with the mac and cheese, you're not even getting
that chewiness.
It's just like this weird.
It just dissolves.
Blubby.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a tissue paper.
That's wet.
The cheese was bad.
I mean, but that I can't believe that that's like an old man who's like chewing on a root
is good.
That's just bulls.
That's crazy.
Why?
Maybe it maybe now that I think about it, the pasta is exclusively for old people.
It might be.
I think they're very small.
It's a very.
Yeah.
Because it's like easy to chew, but the noodles are too long.
Can't really taste.
Anyway is a thing.
I've just decided is probably true.
I think it is true.
It sounds true.
I think you have fewer taste buds as you age.
I think I think ages them and I'm not going to stand that they can taste very well.
I think you know what?
Yeah.
I think a lot of time and an old grand grandma in a kitchen is cooking up some of the most
tasteful things you can ever have.
That's true.
You're right.
That is true.
You're right.
I think I'm speaking only of myself.
As I age, there is a distinct lack of or like a lessening of my sense of smell and
taste.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know what's going on.
I'm a little worried.
I've gotten dumber.
I've gotten dumber.
Me too.
I've definitely gotten dumber.
Yeah.
You're the dumber of the two.
Well, I use...
It's a matter of days.
I have definitely like, I felt like I used to be very sharp.
I could recall facts quickly.
I like, I remember details of a conversation I was having.
And now I just like, I feel stupid.
I have trouble remembering like someone was like, what'd you get up to this weekend?
And I just like, I was like, I have no idea what I went out, got up to this week.
Yeah.
I used to remember everything.
This is not like an interesting nickname by any means, but it is indicative of how I used
to be.
Is my friends in high school, a nickname for me was memory girl.
Again, it's not like a great nickname.
But I remember...
Sounds like a CW show.
Yeah.
Somebody was like...
It's like a character.
Yeah.
Memory girl.
Stanley created that in like 1972.
But it doesn't have, I should have been like memory mama or something.
And now I can't, like I can't remember conversations.
Same thing.
Like what'd you do over the weekend?
I truly have no idea.
Do you know what I think that is?
I think that's your brain trying to wipe out the misery of life.
Oh, the bad stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe, could I have happier?
Keeps it going.
Yeah.
Keeps it going.
I'm happier than when I was a teenager.
Are you?
Yeah, but I'm also on two mood stabilizers.
So...
Right.
There's that too.
Can Weigher and I get some of those, please?
Talk to your doctor.
I think with the heat wave, you've seen this with me.
Yes.
My brain is like cooked.
Kelly's dying.
Like we moved an episode of our podcast and I was like, I don't know why we moved that.
And she's like, you booked something and I was like, what?
What did I book?
I will say that to back up my statement that I don't remember things.
I had to search through many, many text messages to figure out why we had moved it.
But like it is weird.
Like with, with the heat wave, I've been like very slow and not being able to remember
things or not knowing where my car is has been a thing a lot.
Like...
Oh yeah.
I take, I will take a picture of where I parked because that's like the only way I can remember
where I was.
Your guys' phones don't market in your...
Well, my phone does.
Oh man.
How do you do that?
I don't know.
It just doesn't.
Google Maps will be like, this is where you parked.
But I also have Metro Mile, which has a little GPS in my car and it tells me where my car
is.
And it also tells me, yeah, if I'm on like street sweeping, it'll be like girl, you should move
your car.
Oh, that's awesome.
That's very helpful.
I will do that.
Maybe mine tells me because my...
I have a new car and it's basically like driving a phone, so maybe that's why it works it.
It does actually work.
What's going on with you guys?
I don't know.
I guess I've just coasted on the dumb level I am, my entire life.
What's going on with you guys?
Like you said how old you were earlier and, and when I heard it, I went, oh, why you're
37?
And then I went, oh, I'm 36.
I was like, that sounds so old to me.
I am the same age.
Yeah.
It's, it's weird.
I mean, I've kind of made peace with it, but it is definitely the age when I was like 12,
the idea of a 37 year old was like, what the fuck?
Like I was like surprised that people were still alive.
I'm 35.
Kelly, how old are you?
I am 29.
Wow.
I'm a little baby.
Very cool.
But soon to be 30.
Gross.
Then I'll be gross like you guys.
And then unfuckable.
And then straight up straight up unfuckable.
I've been unfuckable forever.
So proud.
Hey, you know, to our listeners out there, if you've gotten stupider over the years,
hashtag brain rot, and if you feel like you're about the same level, hashtag still sharp
as Mitch.
So let's let's talk.
Let's talk in a little bit more depth about supplantation slash sweet tomatoes.
Let's start with salad.
So we go through it.
I got the last night I got the so they have the they have a bunch of premade salad options
and then they also have to build your own, which I think is the way to go because a lot
of the premade salads, they've just been soaking in that dressing all day and they just get
super duper mushy.
That's why I like that.
Well, yeah, it depends on what texture you're looking for, but I got the I got the premade
Caesar salad.
I got a little bit of that.
Nice.
Which was fine.
Was it an Asiago?
Oh, it is like an Asiago is dressing and then the the croutons though are just so like
they're just spongy because they've been soaking in that dressing for like six hours.
And then the build your own salad, spinach, radishes, red cabbage, kidney beans, peas,
jalapenos, hard boiled eggs, sunflower seeds, balsamic vinaigrette.
You can really go nuts there.
There are a lot of options.
But I thought I mean my build your own salad, I thought was good and their dressings I think
are all pretty solid.
Yeah.
The balsamic vinaigrette is good.
And then the previous visit I went to with Natalie, I got the housemaid blue cheese dressing
and their housemaid dressings are good.
The pre-made dressing, the pre-made salads I tried in Brentwood, I got the avocado BLT
salad went to a brand.
Yeah.
We went to the avocado BLT avocado BLT salad, which was fine.
California location.
Not really very many baked.
They reference it.
They were rich mother.
Hold on.
In Brentwood.
Hold on.
I went to the Brentwood location.
Don't live in.
Oh, Jesus.
You live in Brentwood.
Capital B Brentwood and the wanted to own a piece of history.
The avocado BLT salad, just lacking in bacon, it just really didn't deliver on that.
I also got Jones Broccoli Madness, which was actually a pretty nice broccoli salad.
And you know, just like a little bit of sweetness and it had some dates in it or something.
You can buy that at Costco.
Oh, really?
They sell soup plantation brand Jones Broccoli Madness.
Oh, wow.
That's awesome.
I'm going to pick some up.
Do it.
I actually liked it.
And the picnic macaroni with ham, which I thought was better than the mac and cheese,
the mac salad, I think, I think the cold version is better to go versus is better over
the warm version.
Let's talk about your guys' salad experiences.
Okay.
Well, I got Lindsay Salad for him.
I specifically said, do not get me salad.
I was saving our table.
That was why we're like in there ready to go is because I've only ever been with like
one or two other people.
I've never been with five.
Right.
And I was concerned about getting a table.
I was very concerned.
And I was very excited when I saw the one table for parties of five or more was in fact
available.
So I was like, go ahead, get me a tray.
I don't need salad.
And then I said, do you want Caesar salad?
And I said, yeah, sure.
And then sure enough, I didn't eat it.
I never had to be eating the salad.
I did Caesar salad on the bottom.
I did extra croutes, the ones you can get the end.
Oh, that's a power move.
Because you're the thing, those other croutons.
They are a little sponge.
I'm not going to eat that.
So I do the extra croutons, which their seasoned croutons are really good, really, really like
they're like really buttery and really good.
And then usually I will do like a little bit of the egg, a little bit of like more of the
proteinish things like beans and garbanzos.
But that always makes me really gassy.
So I did not want to experience that last night because I wasn't in the mood.
So I have to be in the mood for gas.
I don't know.
It's like for like fiber and health and like, it's not an everyday thing, but if the mood
strikes me, I'm really crazy.
So I think I just did, yeah, I just did a bed of pre-made Caesar croutes on top, extra
croutes from the end.
And then, oh, no, I did a bunch.
Okay.
No, no, no, I did the nasty tuna salad thing.
Oh, yeah, you mixed the mac and tuna salad with tuna, which it was not, there's no tuna
in there.
Yeah.
It's just juice.
Lots of tarragon and lots of like pickle relish.
Yeah.
And then you turned to me and you were like, should I do this?
And I said, no, and you did it anyway.
And you were like, this is fucking disgusting.
And then you were like, why am I still eating it?
Because what I did was I also got the picnic mac salad with ham.
And this is what I found when you mentioned that the avocado BLT did not have a lot of
beef.
Yeah.
It's because all of their salads that they're like, this has meat in it.
There's like one little piece of meat in there and it's mostly like filler.
Right.
So.
I mean, that's how they remain profitable offering all you can eat for 12.99 for adults.
Yeah.
It's just like they just skimp on the proteins.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I had the picnic ham salad, the tuna tarragon pasta salad.
And then a little side of their creamy garlic dressing, which I did not eat.
I had the Caesar salad and I did two of the max.
I did one max.
I don't even know what they were, but I did two max salads.
One that was just like different noodles and maybe one was the ham.
One had olives in it.
Okay.
One were like elbow noodles that had olives in it.
Okay.
That was probably the ham picnic.
Okay.
There's no ham that I found in there.
And then the other one was like multiple, kind of like just like a regular max salad.
I was so confused while sitting in there.
It's disorienting.
I didn't know it was gone.
I was late.
I had been my stomach hurt.
So I didn't want to go crazy on roughage.
Right.
And usually if like, if there's a buffet line and they see you, they send some security
to make sure you don't ravage it so you were just like, they're just going to go nuts.
Yeah.
They send security for the salad bar.
You fucking idiot.
But the old, the old fat guy trope.
He's eating too much salad.
He's a salad guy.
Um, I, I, I got, I got that Caesar salad that everyone got the Asiago Caesar salad.
And I, I don't know what, and then the lady kind of the, the, the, the woman at the, the,
the woman up front ran me through how everything works.
Yes.
And I came down and I, so I got a drink was the only other thing I got.
I told you guys what you said to me, which is that you add a drink and the dessert table
for 295 and you guys all went nuts on me and said that that's not how it works.
So that's what she told me.
Here's the thing.
We're not mad at you mad at her for taking advantage of a naive young man who's entering
supplantation for the second time.
Well, I find it very hard to believe that that's what she said.
I don't think that you're lying.
I think you believe what you're saying.
You believe what you do.
We believe you believe it.
I don't think, yeah, I believe that you believe it was 295 for the drink and according to her,
that was for the drink and the dessert bar.
I think she was saying for the drink, go have dessert.
No, no, I'm telling you, why would you bring it up?
I think she was saying that the drinks were with the desserts because they were on the
same station.
Yeah.
That's my guess is that you, you, you heard some version of that because we're all, it's
free.
It's free range.
I'm looking, I'm looking it up.
Everybody can get at that dessert bar because you specifically said cookie bar when then
you said something about a bagged cookie.
Oh, that was confusing.
That was weird.
I was speculating that she was trying to get him to order a drink and maybe a little bag
of cookies and that's what made that price.
But the one thing I'll say about this particular location is that they've got all the drink
cups in like this steel pit.
Yeah.
You have to reach your like whole arm down.
They were like super deep.
It was like, they were, they were replenishing them when I got there.
So you got it.
You got it.
Oh yeah.
It was nice and simple for me.
Nice and simple for you.
It's a crazy system to have like the whole thing is, I'll get into that more.
Right.
The whole thing is crazy.
It's very poorly out.
You finish the salad bar and then you pay, but then there's more after that.
There's like, like that's like, you get like the little taste through the salad bar, but
you still, you can't just take that obviously you have to, you pay for that.
And then the soup and bread stations are beyond the register.
Yes.
Last time you see big plates, right?
So long to big plates.
It's insane.
And then there's just tiny plates and cauldrons.
Yes.
Tiny plates and cauldrons.
Like sale and like and tiny, tiny, uh, ice cream cones.
Yes.
Which they were, which they were out of.
So the thing that I liked of all those, the salad was like fine and whatever.
And then I didn't go back.
See, that was the last time I hit the salad bar.
I think that's why they do it because people don't revisit the salad bar because you have
to go back to the entrance of the restaurant.
So that's, that's one reason I think they structured it that way as a psychological
and that's more and that's more money.
How the produce.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
A handful of like Caesar salad versus a handful of that Alfredo thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Disgusting.
I took a couple of bites of the Caesar and I was like, this tastes like nothing.
It really doesn't.
Yeah.
It really did taste like nothing.
I'm like, I can make a salad at home.
I don't need to fill up on this.
I want to fill up on blueberry muffins.
Right.
So many of the dishes you're just, you're just getting texture.
You're not getting any flavor.
And so beyond the salads, we've got the soups and the breads.
So I got the, on my two visits, my first visit, I got the deep kettle house chili, which I
think is the standout soup.
That chili is really good.
I also got the broccoli chowder that they have.
And this, this most recent visit, I went with the New England clam chowder, throwing some
Tabasco and oyster crackers.
I will say, and I think this is a pretty obvious soup plantation slash sweet tomatoes hack.
They have a baked potato bar there, which is, you know, one of the highlights is that,
that baked potato, because you can, you can fill up on it and they've got a lot of fixings.
So the baked potato bar, you can use those fixings to plus up any dish.
Absolutely.
So, you know, like, you know, you get that chili, throw some sour cream and throw some
cheese and some, some green onions for that potato bar.
Yeah.
I think everyone thinks to do it, but I mean, it's nice that it's there and the clam chowder,
I, you know, I said Tabasco, I didn't say, I said it was all turns out you're the hack.
Yo, what's up guys?
This is me, Nick.
I'm here.
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Choose the one you like out.
And then I also got the, I tried all the pastas, the classic mac and cheese over two nights,
the, the, the, the fettuccine Alfredo, the spaghetti, the, the baked potato, which I think
is a highlight.
The breads is bad at the Brentwood location.
Yeah, the pasta was, I think the pasta is at the same level of load and honestly was
pretty uniform.
I think the Brentwood location was like maybe a little bit fancier, whiter.
Yeah, definitely, definitely better, but I mean, like it was more deserving of a vote.
I think it was a little bit more tended to, but the, but I, it was also less high volume.
I mean that, that, that, that, was it on a plantation?
Come on.
Look, there are a lot of problems with race in LA, but slavery never waited, it's made
its way to Southern California.
All right, fine.
Start bringing up that national stain.
Um, so it's over.
Turn this on me.
There is nothing left of it.
Why do we have to keep talking about it?
Like it's so happening.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Don't turn that around.
Um, the, oh God.
Oh no.
So the, at that time.
What if you found out right now?
I didn't know those words could come out of that word.
Come out of your mouth.
What a heel turn.
As I said, I was like, is this how it's done?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's hard A or not.
Anyway, anyway.
Well, we're not going to correct you, but actually,
the pizza breads, they've got the quattro firmaggio, the
cheesy garlic, the barbecue chicken.
Um, uh, I think we've all tasted all of those.
Let's talk.
Let's talk soups.
Let's talk pastas.
Let's talk breads.
What are you guys?
What are you guys, uh, pick some pans?
I got the seven vegetable soup.
Uh, it is vegan and gluten friendly.
It was delicious.
It was, however, mostly celery, but it was a tasty broth.
I also got the broccoli and potato chowder, which I very
much enjoyed.
It was a little bit of a soup at the end, but I'm sure that
it varies with your bites.
Right.
And I liked that it had pepper because otherwise it probably
would have been like that pasta way too bland.
It's not, it's like some, you would expect it.
It's, it's not too thin either.
It's like, it's got a good, uh, good consistency to it.
Like me.
It's like perfect.
I could have, I could have used, it's like perfect.
I could have used a little more cheese in that broccoli
thing because I do like a lot of cheese in a broccoli
chowder soup.
I did like that the broccoli wasn't too crunchy.
Oh yeah.
If you got it like a not thoroughly cooked vegetable and a
soup, it's so jarring.
It's so very jarring.
Yeah.
So it was like the perfect like cooked consistency.
I tried a little sip of the age, Asian ginger broth, which
you are apparently supposed to add stuff to.
Yeah.
But I wanted to see if I liked the broth first.
What do you add to it?
It says you can add tofu, mushrooms, shredded carrots,
spinach, and wanton strips, which are, I think they're
next to out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't see that stuff though.
I didn't see it.
Supposedly.
Yeah.
I used them immediately.
I was like, okay, I'm going to try the broth before I try to
add anything to it.
I didn't like the broth.
I was not interested in that broth.
So I didn't have any interest.
I also got the deep kettle house chili.
And I liked it a lot.
Yeah.
That's a good chili.
And the big chunk chicken noodle soup is always a home run
for me.
The chili is my favorite.
Classic deep kettle.
I like to dip the various pizzas in it.
Oh, that's fun.
Yeah.
I like to like, I'll make the, I'll add sour cream and cheese
to a point where it's like basically just a cheese soup
with some savoriness.
And then I get my pizza and dip it.
So it's like I'm dipping my pizza into cheese.
I wish I'd added cheese.
It was really thumbs up.
Damn.
And then I usually like the French onion soup, but they
don't have it there.
They didn't have it there when we came.
So I was really sad about that.
But, oh, and then the muffins.
I loved both muffins that were offered.
Blueberry and the gluten-friendly lemon.
Lemon.
Yes.
Thumbs up.
I liked lemon better, I think.
And you pointed out the verbiage is very, it's very
particular, gluten-friendly.
Yes.
Because it's not actually gluten-free.
If you are a celiac, you'll get sick.
Right.
Yeah.
You cannot go to this.
The other breads they have, they have the sourdough bread.
They have the cornbread.
And then they have the multigrain bread.
The multigrain bread I think is pretty nice.
The brown bread from a cheesecake factory.
The cornbread, I think, is their standout.
Especially because they have this honey-whipped butter.
And if you get that honey-whipped butter with that
cornbread, I mean, it's delightful.
Mitch, what are your thoughts on the bread pizza and
soupsitch?
All right.
Bread pizza and soupsitch.
First of all, I want to say that I had the strawberry
lemonade.
Are you going to do drinks later or not?
We didn't hit up Bebs.
Yeah.
I got the hibiscus iced tea, and then I also made myself
a Nick Weicker, which is an invention of mine, too.
No.
Third iced tea, one-third lemonade.
It's trashed.
You talked about it last night.
It's not bad.
Yeah.
You kept trying to, like, make it stick.
Yeah.
None of us said it.
I'm going to call it that.
From now on, I wrote it down in a little book.
Thank you, Katie.
My favorite.
My favorite.
You could just say the Arnold Palmer with two-thirds iced tea.
You're not taking over this.
You're not getting the name for it, okay?
It's a different drink.
It's just not going to happen.
Anyways, I got the strawberry lemonade, which I thought...
It's the way he makes it.
Oh, God.
The strawberry lemonade...
The first thing I had there that was good was the strawberry lemonade.
I really enjoyed it.
It's really good.
Then I...
So I made my way over to the soup station.
I got myself a potato and broccoli soup, which, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You got the same thing.
And I got myself a piece of sourdough bread.
And then I...
So that was kind of my...
And I got the garlic cheese pizza thing.
And then I got...
The focaccia.
And then I got the other pizza bread, the quattro formaggio.
And I came back with that.
I thought that the pizza bread was great.
The quattro formaggio was...
I really enjoyed it.
That was probably one of the better things I had there.
I think you're right.
Even though it is still bad, by the way.
Yeah, it's just bad.
It's bad, but it's good.
It's bad, but it's good.
I understand that being bad, but good.
Everything else, I don't know if I felt...
I agreed with that.
It was bad, but good.
But I had the...
That and the other one was fine, too.
The garlic cheese one was okay.
But the barbecue chicken's a little suspect.
I did not do the barbecue chicken because of that.
It tasted Asian to me, because it tasted like hoisin.
And then the cilantro on it.
I was feeling like I was eating focaccia.
Oh, man.
It didn't...
But not a good focaccia.
Like weirdly sweet focaccia.
It just didn't look great.
And then...
So I brought the broccoli and potato soup.
I really liked.
I thought it was good.
And I dipped some of the sourdough bread in there.
The bread was sweet, like you mentioned.
And I did not like the bread at all.
I did not like that sourdough bread.
The sourdough bread was bad.
I didn't have it.
I didn't have it.
It smelled sour, and it was not sourdough.
How do you make sourdough bread so bad?
It was like not sourdough.
It's out of a bag.
That's the issue.
The multigrain bread, I think, is pretty decent.
But the sourdough bread is just like...
They just got it in a plastic bag, and then they just serve it.
It's not even warm.
It's just like room temp bagged bread.
And it gets dry.
And for the fuck of it, I tried to put that honey-whipped butter on it,
and I was like, this made it worse.
It does not work.
It does not work.
Too sweet.
Too sweet.
Too sweet.
I went back, and I got myself...
I got a blueberry muffin the first time.
I loved it.
One of the best things I have.
Muffins are good.
The blueberry muffin is the reason to go to supermarket.
And I got...
Well, I went back, and I got a second one,
because they're tiny in there, really, really good.
I think I ate four.
You know what's good about their...
About their bread...
I did do the honey-whipped butter, though.
Or not their bread, but the pizza and the muffin
is that the underside of the top of the muffin is crispy.
But it's very soft in the middle.
And the same for their pizza.
It's crispy on the bottom, but cheesy on top.
Right.
It's like those little muffins you get at 7-Eleven,
but taste like they're cooked and wholesome or something.
Yeah.
Instead of just soft.
Right.
It's like they have...
The muffins, I feel, are warm.
They're warm and soft.
And the bread is room-tempt and kind of stale,
like you were saying.
And I'm just like, I don't know why the savory breads
can't get the same TLC.
Again, it's like, why can you do soup right but not pasta?
Right.
Yeah.
Soup is arguably harder.
I got that chili.
I did the house chili.
And I put sour cream, onion, and cheese in it.
And then I got a piece of cornbread
and put some butter on that and dipped it in there.
And that cornbread was pretty good in the chili.
And the chili was good.
And then I got a plate with all the pastas,
and I hated all the pastas.
The pastas, they're just whack.
I think, you know, the two of you pointed out earlier
that maybe they're for grandma and grandpa,
and I think that's probably right.
I think there are probably...
There are definitely, you can just see,
there are a lot of seniors who eat there
because it's a good value,
and I think they have a senior rate.
Or maybe for very small, fussy children.
Very small children.
Yeah, small kids would work for it.
Yeah.
Because I've seen very tiny children eating that pasta.
And...
It's like a safe option.
Because it's super soft.
I couldn't do that to my kids.
If I had a kid, I couldn't do that.
Nothing's too cheesy.
I would never do that to my child.
I would never do that to a child.
I would never.
I would never make any of that.
I would never do that.
Like, how dare those parents?
How dare they?
Right.
It should be illegal?
Honestly, we should have taken these kids from them.
We sat there.
We should have taken them.
And we witnessed it, and we did nothing.
That's the thing.
So, I guess it is for the kids, right?
You just plop it on a plate, and then they're like,
oh, here's some macaroni and cheese.
Because I remember thinking, as a kid,
cool macaroni and cheese, and never liking it,
but always being happy that it was there.
100%.
Just the idea that you could just get your own portion
of mac and cheese in a fucking soup bowl,
and then you could just go down and refill it.
Put on some chicken nuggets, too, or something, then, huh?
Yeah.
I mean, I'd say.
Yeah, why don't they have any chicken nuggets?
Get some little chicken stewers.
Protein.
Protein.
Protein, too expensive.
I don't have protein.
So, for desserts, on my two visits,
the first time I got the brownie bite,
I think those brownie bites are fucking whack.
No, I don't even bother.
Terrible, terrible, terrible.
Stay away from them.
Why did you do that?
How do you make a good muffin and a bad brownie?
Yeah.
I know.
I guess.
So dry.
Again, like, so dry.
I can make a brownie.
I can't totally make a great muffin.
But, yeah, if you overcook a brownie,
it just turns into cake, and they're just like,
you know, it's just unpleasant.
They're not using enough eggs.
Right.
Protein.
Protein.
There we go.
There we go.
It's all protein.
You know, it was good, though, the little cookie bar.
I liked that thing.
I liked the cookie bar.
And that was the other dessert I got night one.
And you know what?
I made that into a makeshift cookie Sunday.
Put a little vanilla soft serve on there,
some chocolate sprinkles.
You're so brave.
Yeah.
You're so brave to make that.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
You're welcome so much.
That worked out great.
Nellie actually suspected that it was a blondie
with chocolate chips, which I think is potential.
Oh, it could be.
It could be.
I think she nailed that.
Yeah.
And then the second night, I got the tapioca pudding,
which is for grandma and grandpa.
And then the sugar-free chocolate mousse,
which is definitely for grandma and grandpa.
The sugar-free chocolate mousse just has such an artificial
aftertaste from the artificial sweetener.
The tapioca pudding is not bad if you like tapioca.
It's just a weird texture.
Talk to me through your guys' experiences.
You guys go first.
Because mine was very simple.
Minimal.
Yeah.
I had the cookie bar.
Loved it.
Yeah, it's good.
Would like it if they offered it all the time
and got rid of those fucking poser brownie bites.
Wait, so this is like a seasonal offering.
Seasonal offering.
Yeah, it's special.
I have the menu up.
You can get it until July 29th.
Oh, my God.
The things that they have all the time are the brownies,
tapioca pudding, the mousse thing.
Mike, why would you do that?
And then the soft serve.
They also, it says raspberry gelatin.
I didn't notice anything.
I'm sorry.
They didn't have that.
You know what they do have, which is straight-up hot garbage?
Red delicious apples.
Yeah, that's strange.
A pile of red delicious apples.
What the fuck is that?
Well, it's like now technically you can make your child
like one of those like full nutritional meals.
Like, you know how that you have your required?
Because like at Disneyland, it will be this thing where it's
like this is a full meal.
Yeah, and I think they there has to be like a fruit
and a grain and a protein.
And so it's like, well, I gave you apples.
So technically, if you have a pet, if you have a pet pig,
you can bring it in and have it eat all those apples.
So what they're trying to they're trying to abide by like USDA
or FDA requirements.
Is that the idea?
I would imagine it's just a way to like check a box.
Right.
Fuck that.
And the fact that these full at like I after I'm full of like
pizza bread.
The last thing I want to do is grab a mealy fucking apple.
And you know they're not going to be good.
You know, they're going to be mealy.
You know, they're going to be dry.
They're not going to be sweet.
And just chomp into one of those things.
I'm not going to bite into a full apple after dinner.
Yeah.
You know, I think they should rename red delicious apples.
Red, not so delicious.
Oh my God, Nick.
No, I said it.
Controversial.
Controversial.
Your bravery.
You're so brave is to be commended.
Sir.
Thank you.
Inspiring.
It is strange.
They just have a big old pile of apples and they look like it
looks like nobody is going.
I've been there for years.
It's like one of those like sci-fi things where you like if
like something has a like an invisibility cloak where I
just walk by them and I never see them.
Right.
Yeah.
They have like the stealth like.
Yeah.
It has a stealth shield over it.
And then those weird sliced oranges that are right next to
it too.
Yeah.
There's like weird soggy sliced oranges that look like
someone's been like touching.
Yeah.
They look like someone's been like just really bothered by
your acting.
Yeah.
It feels wrong.
I don't like it.
With their little fingy tips and like just like squeezing
on them.
You can't see what she's doing and you're better off.
It's like a little birdie.
Like a little bird that's going in and touching on all of
them.
You know, like birds do the grand thing.
Like birds, they touch things with their mouth.
Kelly has been making a hand motion that's making us all
squirm.
I actually thought you got a pretty nice looking
dessert.
I took a pic of it.
Yeah.
I made yourself a little Sunday.
I made myself a little Sunday, which I was happy because I
was looking for a comb.
There were no cones available.
It was all just mashed up crumbs.
Yeah.
Those cones are fucking tight.
They're like.
Oh my God.
The flight.
It was an Aeon Flux moment.
The flight went right for his eye.
The flight went right into my eyes.
I almost got into my eyelashes.
It was so horrifying.
You swung it out of the way.
It just fell down.
It didn't even fly away.
It fell over.
Did I kill the fly?
I hope so.
It was an Aeon Flux moment.
Again.
So brave.
You're so brave.
You just took out that flight.
It was horrifying.
You guys, it landed full on his cheek.
Your nose is so alarming.
The things I endure for this podcast.
That was the, in terms of horrifying fly moments.
That was probably number two.
Number one is when I was, I was in kindergarten and I was on
the playground and a fly landed on my hand.
And then just like puked up its food.
Just on the back of my hand.
We know how they eat, right?
But it's just like, he just really staggered for a second.
Nick is doing impression of the fly.
On his little flea legs, or fly legs in this like, like,
all you just like, you just spit out all this green stuff on
my, my hand.
That is like a drunk fly landed on your hand.
It was just like, oh.
Throw up like dog shit on your hand.
Yeah.
He was not.
He gorged on dog shit and then he flew a little too vigorously.
This is the second time a fly landed on your arm in here
wants to.
You'll track flies.
Yeah.
Is there like, do you have a certain set?
Is it your sense?
Dog shit.
Like returning home.
They just can tell I'm a dog shit writer.
I like that.
I blamed you instead of my house having flies in it twice.
Yeah.
I think, I think maybe it's the same fly.
Maybe it's my pet fly that's been sticking around for a long time.
It's Rico.
But, but I was going to say the, the, its death reminds me that life
and death comes with whatever.
I was going to try to try to be like the fly.
I was going to try to be like the episode.
So quickly forward.
It's like, it's kind of like out never fuck this.
I hate, I hate this analogy.
The, the cones are like a monopoly thimble size.
Like they're so, so small.
They're just for little kids.
But you were saying you were getting, I was very happy that I,
that I didn't have a call.
He's alive.
He's alive.
He's sitting on my phone.
He's going to puke on your, he's going to puke on my phone.
Nick's skin cells.
Can you kill him?
Here, should I give you a piece of paper to kill him?
He's a big fly.
Also, he's brave.
He's braver than you.
Oh no.
That's why he went for you though.
Yeah.
They killed the damn fly.
I'm not going to kill this fly.
I admire his spirit.
Oh great.
It's going to crawl into my mouth tonight.
Like on your open eye.
Yeah.
It goes for eyes we found out.
If this fly blinds me tonight.
You know what?
At the very least we know where it is and that it won't fly at our faces.
Yeah.
It's resting comfortably on the surface of your phone.
No, I didn't do anything.
I don't know what the fuck is going on with this fly.
It is the stillest fly.
There's no food there.
I think it died standing up.
Oh no, he's alive.
Okay.
It died doing what it loves.
There you go.
The guy who's just been like sitting in his driveway for like the past 20 minutes
listening to this podcast waiting for closure on your Sunday.
You're getting distracted by flies.
My Sunday, I was so happy that the cones weren't available
because that shit fucking comes out quick.
It really, the ice cream on the side of that machine.
It was that big pile.
I took a picture of that very depressing soft serve lump.
Yeah.
It was the bottom of the machine, which was horrid looking.
So I did a bowl and I did that and I put a little Oreo because one of you guys recommended
to put some Oreo.
Oh yeah, Oreo.
Yeah.
Wiger?
They do have some toppings there.
That wasn't my rack.
It was me.
I recommended it.
I will take credit.
Your voice is me.
That's a Kelly Nugent.
Your voice is so alike.
We look exactly the same and sounds the same.
Yeah.
That's very confusing.
I don't know.
That's not why I could.
I had no idea.
I just forget someone said put some Oreos and I said, hmm.
And I did the swirl.
I did.
I did chocolate and vanilla.
It was good.
It was.
I mean, it was very classic, you know, ice cream machine, whatever.
Right.
It was good.
Yeah.
It's fine soft serve.
Can I tell you?
What?
Mine's soft serve related.
I don't think they're real Oreos, by the way.
They're not.
They're not.
They're off.
They're like.
Probably what they're not going to pay for a protein.
They're not going to pay.
They're not going to pay.
Brand Oreo.
Especially crushed.
Okay.
Well, I'm going to go first.
Well, Kelly's distracted by the fly.
I am of the belief that chocolate is the best flavor to get of traditional ice cream.
Vanilla is the best flavor to get of soft serve ice cream and strawberries the best flavor
to get in a milkshake.
Wow.
I love strawberry milkshake.
And I think those are some strong takes.
You're wrong.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, I was going to tell you a story about a person who their job was to clean soft
serve machines.
And this lady called and she was like, there's weird flex inside of my soft serve machine.
It looks like it's Oreo cookie ice cream.
And then it turned out that the machine was infested with cockroaches and they were getting
ground up and then being served out into the soft serve.
So let's all get ice cream.
That's the best thing.
I remember this story.
Yeah.
Is this an urban legend or is this something you heard?
No.
This was something she saw on a Reddit thread.
Oh my God.
It was like, what was the worst thing you've ever encountered in food service?
And that was like one of the people that replied.
Oh, no.
Thank you.
I did the vanilla soft serve with caramel on it.
I saw you did caramel.
Yeah.
It looked pretty good.
Sometimes they have a strawberry compote syrup.
Yeah.
Compote thing.
And then sometimes they have fresh strawberries, not of the season.
So we did not see that.
Right.
Do you know what?
As far as the, that, that cockroach story, they have a lot of times to live in coffee
makers, but they like the heat.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So they went to the cold.
So I, but you know what?
I believe it.
I was going to call bullshit on this Reddit guy.
The machinery.
Yes.
Good point.
They go to the gears and then ice cream because she would turn it off.
Yeah.
So I assume, oh, and she, they asked her how long it had been since she cleaned it.
And she said three years.
All right.
That's on her.
It's fucking nasty.
Sorry.
A lot of bug talk today.
Yeah.
We're obsessed with this fly and it's like all we can think about.
We have Mitch vacuuming up bees.
We got a fly bothering us.
We got Maine.
We're on this episode.
Oh God.
Don't say his name three times.
Let's get to our final thoughts on supplantation slash sweet tomatoes.
You guys have heard the podcast, you know, this works.
So we'll each go around.
We'll sort of give our closing statement, if you will, and then ascribe this chain,
a rating on the order of zero to five forks.
Lindsay will begin with you.
Oh, the stress.
I would say that my experience last night was not my most successful outing just
because I didn't love the soup.
Last time I went, I got the black bean chili and it was great.
But when I saw it last night, it just looked like fucking loose seal ball stomped on a
bunch of black beans.
But I have had better experiences as usual.
The blueberry muffins were the standout for me.
And in general, I'm going to give it three and a half out of five.
Wow.
Three forks, three forks, two tines.
Very good score.
And yet I love it.
How is this?
Yeah.
Go ahead, Kelly.
Well, if you are like me and you enjoy food that is not good, but you like, do you like
foods that are very soft, but sometimes hard?
Do you like breads that you can dip in things?
Do you want to know what the taste of white is?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause we talked about this.
The Alfredo tasted like white.
The mac and cheese tasted like beige.
And then it was like baby pink, I think, for the flavor of the marinara.
So I would say, do you like the taste of colors and tiny, tiny ice cream cones?
I would say this is a place for you.
I enjoyed myself tremendously in my meal.
That being said, I give it three forks.
Three forks.
Go ahead, Mitch.
I got to ask like these old Wendy commercials.
Where's the beef, Nick?
There's going to be some entrees.
You get through the sal line is confusing to get to even look.
There are some things that I liked.
There were tastes that I liked, but I needed it.
I needed some main core.
I need some, some sort of something.
I needed something more.
I mean, I mean, I just don't want like a chili in a salad, right?
I mean, like that's such a specific thing.
And there were, there were certain things that tasted good, but they were, none of them were really,
and next time I went, I would make my own salad, of course.
And I would, I would, I would make up a big salad and do it upright.
But soup plantation, I think you got to get like how Nick's family treated his mom.
You got to get in line.
Wait a minute.
Or Nick's going to, it's going to give you the business.
You're going to shove your plate to the floor.
We weren't some sort of caricature of the patriarchy.
My mom was an equal voice in our family.
I'm going to give it.
It's four times right on a fork.
Yeah.
How do I not know this?
Is it four?
I mean, yeah, generally there are three.
Five.
Five, like a little hand?
I wasn't thinking.
I was so stressed about my thesis, which by the way, I don't think I did well on.
I liked Kelly's thesis more.
You both did great.
Oh my God, you do not.
No.
It's interesting.
We're both like soup plantation.
Don't worry.
We're both bad, but people like us.
All right.
I'm going to take it.
I'm going to take it to two and a half.
Wow.
Wow.
Two and a half.
You're retconning it.
Wow.
I'm going like proportional experience.
So I was misremembering.
I thought there were five.
Oh no, it's out of five.
It is out of five forks.
Oh, okay.
There's four times per four.
Yes.
You guys are freaking me out.
I have listened to this podcast.
You're overthinking it.
I give to it's Patreon.
Right.
But you said four and I was like, oh my God, I'm not.
I don't remember what's going on.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
This is going along with you.
That's the tines.
No, just the tines.
Just the tines.
All right.
Three and a half.
Three and a half.
I wish that I had what you guys were going on so I could forget this
experience.
Oh, and actually it was a good time with you guys.
We had a good time except we had a blast.
The light on our table above our table was out.
It was strange.
Very dark.
We're sitting to point to two forks.
Three times two point seven five is why.
Wow.
I'm sorry.
I don't I don't care about soup.
I'm sorry.
No, you're not hurting.
You're not.
I admit it's not a good restaurant.
It's not good.
It's not good.
It is completely lacking in entrees.
It pretends to be a buffet, a full buffet, but it is lying.
Yeah.
And like when you're full from there, you're not happy.
Right.
It's like you accomplished anything.
That was that was my big question last night.
I was like, look, my stomach hurt before I even got there.
So when I got and there was a moment when I was eating and I was like
towards the end of the year, I was sweating because I ate whatever
the fettuccine Alfredo and then I was like, am I going to be starving
or am I or am I going to be stuffed and feel even more sick?
And the answer was I was hungry later.
I didn't.
I didn't know that was the other weird thing too when it's like a soup
and salad place.
I was like, what is the right amount to eat?
I didn't.
I didn't really know what was what even what I was like.
It was hard to track up.
Does that you know what I'm saying?
One hundred percent.
Also, it was funny that you had the pasta because you were talking
about having just gotten back from Italy.
And it was fucking soup.
Which is pasta.
The shittiest pasta possible.
Yeah.
Very funny.
Like sub Stofer's tier.
Just the worst.
Yeah.
Worse.
Sub everything.
Yeah, it really is.
So I want to address one thing real quick.
Before the vocabulary trolls jumped down my throat.
Sure.
Second week in a row, I think.
I've said it a couple of times recently.
I've said the word ascribe a rating, which is not proper usage,
but I've just kind of fallen into the habit of saying it.
So, you know, I know that was wrong.
I know I'm using that word incorrectly.
Give me a fucking break.
My brain is rotting.
Jesus fucking Christ.
You're deriding this brave man.
He needs your pity for his bravery.
Here's what I'm going to say.
I like this restaurant.
I think sweet tomatoes should just become the brand.
And in fact, I think we should take suplantation and treat it
the same way that we treat the Washington football team.
It's problematic.
It's something of a prior era that there's no reason for this name
to exist except for tradition, which tradition itself doesn't need to.
The tradition is it's circular reasoning.
It's saying because something exists, it should continue to exist.
So, I think they should rebrand this.
I don't know.
Sweet muffins was a pitch.
I think they have outstanding muffins.
Maybe I'll just call it the San Diego soup chain for now.
And if you agree, hashtag woke wager.
I like that.
That said, I like the San Diego soup chain.
What about Ruffage City?
Ruffage City is great.
Ruffage City.
That's an upgrade.
San Diego soups.
Soup bread and beyond.
Oh, that's good.
That's wonderful.
These are great pitches.
Thank you so much.
Every one of these is a fucking Cadillac.
That said, I like this chain.
I have a lot of nostalgia for it.
I enjoy it as a kid.
It's a great place to get a lot of food.
Not an easy place to get full.
We talked a little bit at the restaurant that when we're eating there,
there's kind of like 1987 healthy.
It's not actually healthy.
It's what people used to think was healthy.
But so much of the stuff that will actually fill you up there is like
horrible for you.
It's loaded with carbs and sugar.
But I think the value can't be discounted.
And the fact that, you know, even in LA,
you can get in all you can eat buffet for $12 with a drink.
Like that's a pretty remarkable value.
There are also a lot of days where kids can eat free.
Yeah, exactly.
If you've got a family, if you've got, if you're seniors,
you can absolutely fill yourself up on a budget.
And I think something has to be said for having food at adequate quality,
that you can get at a good value.
And in terms of what this chain is trying to accomplish,
I think it does it pretty well.
I'm going to go a little higher.
I'm going to say this place deserves three forks, three times.
Just out of the Golden Plate Club territory.
But I think it does.
That's insane.
I don't think it's great,
but I think it does what it's trying to do successfully.
And I think that has to be...
It succeeds in being supplantation.
Exactly, exactly.
You gave me a hard time for being nostalgic with stuff,
and I think that there's an element of that going on here.
I don't think it's nostalgia.
I'm not getting a sense of nostalgia.
He was younger.
He used to go there all the time.
I did concede it was a fat kid's delight.
I did concede that that was part of my calculation.
But I think that for me, the main thing here is the value
and the quality not being great,
but being just good enough to accomplish what it's trying to do.
By the way, what did you give it?
You gave it like 2.75?
I gave it 2.75.
3.75?
One fork higher than you?
That's a fucking...
Right outside of the Golden Plate Club?
Yeah, that's fine.
It's a fine score.
So what do you think it deserves?
What do you think you each are on the cunt scale?
Yeah.
You have to say they'll go.
We're about total virus.
Wow.
Wow.
Is there a level above Vira?
Oh, did we have a...
Yeah, hashtag all caps murder cunt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's if you murder.
You can't say that one either, though.
Careful searching that hashtag too.
Maybe monster cunt.
I feel like searching that hashtag,
you're going to get on some sort of watch list.
You can just use hashtag all caps of Vira.
Yeah.
That was our review of the San Diego soup chain
slash sweet tomatoes.
It's time for a regular segment.
We got a bunch of chips and we're going to eat them all.
Yay.
That's right.
It's chips in hail, rest chew rangers.
There's no bag too big, no bag too small.
When you've got chips, just call
chips, chips, chips in hail.
Rest you rain, chips, chips, chips in hail.
TBD lyrics here.
You know it never fails once we're involved.
Somehow these chips will eat them all.
All right.
Question.
Yeah.
Okay, hold on.
I need to say something really quick.
I was entranced by what your hands were doing
while you started singing because I was afraid
you were going to take your shirt off.
Oh my God.
Because you started going for your buttons.
That'd be a real power move.
No, I was nervously fidgeting because I'm not a train singer.
So it was.
It sounded beautiful.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
But I was afraid like I was like, oh no, what do we do?
Do we clap?
No, Kelly, this is normal.
As I look on and have no expression.
I hope that doesn't become a thing that you start doing.
No, I'm too far too ashamed of my body.
I'm not even naked in the home.
As are we all.
When are we going to fill in those TBD lyrics?
Well, look, I got a placeholder.
You called me out.
I used to not have just have a gap there.
And then I put in a placeholder.
And yeah, but if anyone's got a pitch for it,
let me hashtag rest you rangers, TBD lyrics fill in.
I was going to say, I really admire that you just play
the normal track with the actual vocals.
Yeah, I love that you didn't do a karaoke track.
It's hard to find the karaoke track for a cartoon from the 90s.
So we've got these.
I don't know how to pronounce the brand.
Kusuka, K-U-S-U-K-A.
It's a an Indonesian brand.
And we've got these cassava chips from the cassava melons.
We got four different flavors.
Original black pepper.
Seaweed and spicy.
Seaweed is going to smell like shit, but I'm going to like it.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to pass.
I'm going to give one of these to each of you.
If you just want to pass them down.
If you just want to bite into these and circulate.
We'll have Lindsay open it as far away from you.
I got spicy Kelly, I feel like.
There we go.
That's seaweed.
I'm rocking the original.
How the hell do you open these?
Well, there's a little thing at the top.
Should we tear it like that?
These are uncharacteristic chip bags
and that they don't have the standard opening mechanism.
This is thick as fuck.
All right, I've opened mine.
Okay, I have also opened mine.
I just bit into the original.
Okay.
A great crunch to them.
Should we be biting into ours at the same time?
Feel free to just dig into these
and we can just sort of give our assessments as we go.
These are melons.
These are melons.
Dry melons.
Dry melons.
Okay.
Yeah, the fly is now on my screen.
Yeah, I think these are good.
I mean, they're not particularly greasy.
They're very, very crunchy, which I really like.
You know, these remind me of those,
you know those like Phantara chips?
Yes.
Every once in a while, I think you do get a cassava chip.
Oh, that's fun.
It reminds me that this flavor is very good.
Spicy, I enjoy.
Yeah.
Not actually spicy.
Although I eat a lot of spicy food,
so maybe it is spicy.
By the way, you mentioned Phantara chips.
RIP, Dimebag Daryl.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Wait a minute.
Dimebag Daryl, another member of Phantara died.
Yeah.
Died originally.
Yeah, Dimebag Daryl died a long time ago.
Did you think they were actually called Phantara chips?
No.
These are so crunchy.
She said Phantara, so that's why I said it.
Oh, that's why you were smiling so much.
No, I wasn't paying attention.
I'm not smiling at remembering a man's tragic death.
Legendary metal guitarist.
Oh, no.
Of course, you were just smiling because they said something
that sounded like Phantara.
I had an opportunity to get in one of my classic Weiger puns.
The seaweed, they're more like onion.
Interesting.
Sort of more of an onion flavor.
What are you, you're mentioning the seaweed now?
I'm mentioning on seaweed now.
I just had black pepper.
Okay.
Black pepper, I like.
Black pepper, I like.
Spicy is kind of like, got like a tomato taste at first,
which I don't love, but then when it settles into the spice,
I like it more.
I've just had the original so far.
I'm biting into the black pepper.
I'm sorry, we weren't sharing with Weiger.
That's okay.
Ooh, I like the black pepper.
My pepper's good.
They don't, like, turn out olive oily.
Yeah, they don't use black pepper as a spice enough for chips.
I love black pepper chips.
There's a kettle chips that uses black pepper too,
and they're delightful.
I love those.
Yeah.
This seaweed actually, you know what it tastes like?
You know, when you get the mix with like little rice crackers
and stuff in it?
Yes.
Like not rice crackers, but like, yeah,
they're like tiny little things and they have like,
like nori around them sometimes.
Right.
It tastes like that.
Oh, good.
All right.
The seaweed is being sent my way.
I'm having a little taste of this.
The spice you're kind of addicting.
Hold on, let me grab one.
Addictive, sorry.
Yeah, they are addictive.
Seaweed are nice.
The original are sweet.
There's a bit of seaweed.
Oh, the seaweed is the, I don't want these to be my last taste.
These are the seaweed.
Do you want to cut these yet?
I haven't.
I got original and seaweed.
It is very onion-y.
If you asked me to identify the flavor,
I might not say seaweed.
I would say Maui onion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And I mean, it's probably good that they downplay that seaweed
because that is a flavor that a lot of people are not super into
and it's not context.
The spicy is weird.
It doesn't taste anything like I thought it was going to.
Yeah, it doesn't taste spicy.
It's like.
The first two bites are gross, but keep eating it.
They get addicting.
I agree.
But I think black pepper is my favorite.
Oh, yeah.
Seaweed has a weird taste, but it's not as bad as I thought it would be.
Original is better than I thought it would be.
Does she have spicy yet?
I have not.
This is my last of these chips to try.
And we'll taste it this.
Yeah, that's different.
That's different than I expected.
Yeah, the spicy was a surprise.
What is that flavor?
I mean, because it's not particularly spicy.
I can't, I can't decide what I think it tastes like.
It tastes kind of like those garden salsa sun chips a little.
Yeah, salsa.
It is very salsa.
It tastes like salsa.
It's more salsa than heat.
Yeah, right.
It's a tomato.
Yeah.
The original has flavor to it, which is great.
I normally am a very, like I'm a very vocal hater of plain flavor chips.
I hate plain flavor chips.
Yes, of course.
That original flavor is good.
It is flavorful because the melon, I guess, is yummy.
Any, any favorites?
I think black pepper is the clear winner for me.
I think I would, I think I would go, I would put black pepper in the first place.
And then I'd give, I think I might give spicy the silver original, the bronze.
And there's nothing wrong with the seaweed, but I think that would probably be in fourth
place for me.
I think I would do black pepper, number one, spicy.
And then maybe seaweed, even though I don't love them.
And then original is, I don't like to taste the original that much.
Same order for me.
I think they're, I think they're weird.
Yeah.
I think the original is my least favorite.
It's fair.
And then seaweed.
And then I think black pepper and spicy are pretty tied for me.
And it would be like a mood thing.
What, what, is there any plus sides to these chips are better for you?
They're not potatoes, I guess.
Nutritionally, they still have a lot of carbohydrates, not much in terms of dietary fiber.
Are they not fried?
I mean, I think they have to be fried to deliver this level of crispness.
I assume, I think it looks like they're, they're deep fried in, in palm oil.
So yeah, I think it's, I honestly think it's just, they're not gluten free.
They've, they've got wheat.
They've got soy.
This has MSG in it.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
No wonder it's our favorite.
Yeah.
No wonder we like it.
Cause it's so good.
It has artificial chicken satay seasoning.
Right.
So nutritionally, these are pretty, these are definitely not any better than anything that
you would get off the shelves, just, you know, any sort of, of American potato chip brand.
It's just a matter of if you like the, the texture and the flavor.
The, the, the cassava melon, a cassava melon rather, tastes pretty neutral.
I would say in this context, but the texture is quite nice.
I like how thin they are.
I like how crispy they are.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Worth a try, right?
Yeah, I would say worth a try.
I like these.
Sure.
Why not?
Yeah, why not?
Huh?
Why not?
It's crazy world.
You know what this one kind of tastes like now that I read the chicken seasoning?
A little bit like cup noodle.
Oh sure.
Like a dry cup noodle.
Right.
So I was getting like an olive oily, like, end of sentence.
Hey, that was just tips and hail, rescue rangers.
Just like a restaurant.
We value your feedback.
Let's open up the feedback.
And hey, the fly is walking on your laptop.
The fly is just, he's found his home.
Also there's a friend fly that's fucking.
There's a fruit fly and a regular fly now.
The regular fly is like tightrope walking, like man on wiring across your laptop.
This place is Buzz city.
Let's listen to this voicemail we got.
Hello boys.
This is Aaron in Columbus, Ohio.
My girlfriend has proposed to me this weekend.
And we're now in the process of wedding planning.
So I was just wondering what you guys think is better for weddings.
The face style or individual meals.
Thanks.
Love the show.
Congrats, Aaron.
Congrats to you and your new fiance.
Wonderful.
Wonderful news.
Congrats.
In the context of today's episode, we're actually, we're at a buffet style restaurant.
What do you guys prefer in a wedding?
So do you want to sit down and be served courses or do you like just sort of family style?
You get up and grab whatever you like.
Buffet style at a wedding is the only kind of buffet I don't like.
Oh, interesting.
It's so stressful.
It creates so much stress.
Like, unless there's somebody letting each table know when their time to get up is.
Right.
Then it's okay.
If you can afford it, if it's not too much of a price difference, personally, I say sit down.
Can I throw in, can I throw in a wild card here?
Yes.
Went to a wedding, which I had never been a wedding like this where it was, there was no formal
dining and it was just people walking around with heavy appetizers all night.
And people could just eat grays throughout the night.
That's fun.
Which was cool.
Cause then you could try, I think they were heavy appetizers though.
So they were like meal light just small.
Right.
So you could try a million things.
But that is a little more expensive, I think.
Right.
I'm okay with buffet.
I'm okay with anything.
Yeah.
I'll have fun at your wedding no matter what.
I'm coming, right?
I honestly don't mind the buffet style.
I get what you're saying that is a little stressful.
I guess all the buffets I've experienced at weddings have had like someone to come around
and say like, all right, now it's your table's turn to go into the buffet or whatever.
And that helps.
I resent it because I went to a wedding not too long ago and their chicken option had
a macadamia nut crust on it.
And I am allergic.
Oh boy.
And I didn't fucking know that and I ate it.
That's a big problem.
You always have to label nut situation.
Whereas like, usually with a sit down, it's like, oh, this option has nuts in it.
They wasn't labeled.
Yeah.
Speaking of labeling nut situation, this podcast has a couple of nuts in it.
Oh my fucking god.
Oh my god.
I just died.
I will say this happening.
I'm laughing.
Suplantation has labels on each of their their menu items that says what the allergens are,
which is great.
And yeah, in any buffet context that that should be that should be present.
What are we going to say, Mitch?
Well, maybe I'm a real veer about this whole thing.
But I like this.
I like this.
I don't like the I don't like buffets as much.
I mean, like it can work out great when you have like a big like, oh, here's two options
like meat, salad and right potato or whatever.
It can work out great, but I like I like I like I like it and you pick one of your things
and then I should have picked that one.
It looks good.
And then so much of the talk at the table is about the.
I mean, that's what the big talk about is the food and about how what meal you got and
how good it was.
Yeah.
And maybe people can be a little too catty about it, but I like I like the individual
plates, but you're right.
It is a hard thing because you got it because people people do discuss those meals and
how good they are.
So it's it's tough to get it right and it's expensive.
I say do whatever works for you on your budget and everyone will be happy because it's a
nice day that you're and everyone will be happy for you anyways.
So yeah, it's a yeah.
I would.
I would not stress.
I would not strain your budget for whatever, you know, do whatever, do whatever fits your
budget, do whatever makes much sense.
My opinion only counts if it's not a huge price difference.
Right.
Same.
Yeah.
I think that's probably the main factor.
Yeah.
And hey, if you have a question or comment about the world of chain rest and she mails
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And we should say a little something real quick at the end of this episode.
Yeah.
Jonathan Gold, the great LA Times food critic and institution passed away recently.
Very sad.
You and I are both big fans of his Mitch tremendous, tremendous food writer.
Just a just a wonderful, just a wonderful student of LA.
Icon of LA.
Yeah, exactly.
And just like just sort of show that there's so much more to the city than than kind of
the stereotypes.
And you got people eating out of their comfort zones and finding a lot of great places.
Finding great Thai restaurants, great Korean restaurants, you know, a great Persian restaurants,
great, great Chinese restaurants, just finding all these different pockets of places, great
taco trucks highlighting all these things and introducing them to a new audience that
didn't otherwise discover them.
And always doing it in a way that was like so, so respectful and, and, and, and also
just like so like joyous and it just, just a man who clearly like loved what he did
and was so good at it.
He passed away from pancreatic cancer, which is what my father passed away from.
And, and I was lucky that I had the time with my dad, but that I had, but it with,
with him, I mean, he was diagnosed with it like a month ago or something crazy.
And that's, that's how fast it can go.
So, so I've raised some awareness for, for pancreatic cancer too.
And, and, and if you got extra cash donate, make it, make a donation or two for Jonathan
Gold.
Yeah, but a huge loss for the city.
And, you know, if any of the, the many, the many tributes that have been circulated on
social media at this point, you know, are all coming from a very sincere place.
Check out his, check out any of his restaurant recs.
If you ever looking for something to, to, to Nash on an LA and, and yeah, we just, we
don't have time to say that real quick.
But Lindsay K. Ty, Kelly Nugent, thank you so much for covering out so much time for
us.
Thank you for talking to us about the soup chain.
Do you have anything you would like to plug at this time?
Oh yeah.
Oh, our podcast podcast called Public Domain Theater, where we read aloud something from
the public domain with a guest and we interrupt and make fun of it.
And Wyger was a guest on one of our standout episodes, I would say.
It was so fun to, so fun to do and so fun to listen to just like so in the, the public
domain works that you guys find and read through our just bananas.
We read through this insanely misogynistic sci-fi story from like the fifties or sixties
or was it was just so like, it was so bananas, but it is, it is kind of awesome to dig through
this stuff.
But yeah, definitely, definitely a unique, awesome podcast to check out if you guys aren't
already listening to it.
Yeah.
And we'll have to have you on soon.
Please.
I'd love to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just to increase the podcast about why Pulp Fiction from the eighties and nineties.
Yeah.
It's super fun.
You can follow me on social media at Kelly New G. That's K-E-L-L-Y-N-U-G-E-E.
Or check out any of my other podcasts.
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And thank you for requesting.
And hey, if you guys do have Mitch on your, on Public Domain Theater, make sure you spell
out all the words phonetically.
We will.
We what you couldn't resist.
I'm a fucking Vera, baby.
Oh my God.
Oh no.
Please.
Oh my God.
That'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys.
Until next time for the Spoonman, Mike Mitchell.
I'm Nick Weigher.
Happy eating.
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