Doughboys - Subway Breakfast with Lily Sullivan

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

Lily Sullivan (Killing It, Going Deep, Spirited) joins the 'boys to talk Colorado, mating animals, and breakfast favorites before a review of Subway's breakfast menu. Plus, another edition of Food Court.  Sources for this week's intro: https://slate.com/business/2008/04/the-devils-behind-subway-s-five-dollar-foot-long-jingle.html https://www.inverse.com/article/11117-the-five-dollar-footlong-subway-song-was-the-greatest-jingle-of-our-time https://www.mashed.com/145363/the-truth-about-subways-breakfast/ https://order.subway.com/en-US/AboutUs/history This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/doughboys and get on your way to being your best self.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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days on all orders, offer subject to change per the terms of the restaurant agreement. Wow, 0% on the first 30 days. Sign up today. That link that you want to click on is down there in the episode description. Right down there. Check it out. There it is. Move your cursor. Go ahead and click. If you're on your phone, use your finger and click that link. Click that link in the episode description. It was just, let's see how many times we can say $5 foot long. Let's mention it as many times as possible without making someone hurt us. We wanted to make sure no one would miss the message. This was Jerry Cronin and Jamie Mambrough of advertising agency MMB as quoted in a slate piece by Seth Stevenson entitled

Jingle Hell, though some found their audio collaboration quite heavenly. In 2008, the duo unleashed a fast food jingle that would burrow into the brains of television viewers for all time. The $5 foot long song. The campaign and the bargain it promoted were wild successes for the brand, then and now the largest restaurant company in the world. And through much of the Obama administration, budget conscious consumers could count on a range of protein stuffed bread logs for the pre-tax cost of an Abe Lincoln. The jingle is proudly trumpeted in the chain's corporate history, though its more famous ad campaign has been understandably erased due to centering on now incarcerated child pornographer Jared Fogel. In 2010, amidst

the thriving foot long fad, the chain launched breakfast nationwide, a natural revenue opportunity given that stores were already open in the early morning to bake their daily bread. The additional burden on sandwich artists did produce additional revenue for the sandwichery and the breakfast menu has grown in the decade since. And while inflation may have shuffled the $5 foot long jingle into obsolescence, this always open grinder house remains omnipresent. This week on Doe Boys, we return to Subway for the fourth time, but for breakfast. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, a pirate squint at 40, Mitchy Buffett, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.

Hey, that's not a bad one. I've got squinty eyes. And also, that's a great Jimmy Buffett song. I listened to that on my 40th birthday, just a few weeks back. You just turned 40 recently. And you know who knows that, Mitch? LD and Ramondi, who sent in that roast. Wow. Quincy's own LD and Ramondi sent an email to roastspoonman at gmail.com, went through proper channels, and that got picked. Although it is, that was technically for Yark Doe Bar Chest, our month of pirate themed eating and revelry, but still works. What a way to officially close the book on it, wise. The October is over. We're in turkey season. Many gobbles to you, my boy. Many gobbles to you.

Many gobbles. Many gobbles to all of you out there listening. What is the thing below? What is the thing that hangs on turkey? May your waddles. May your waddles flap, uh, uh, oh, fuck this. May your waddles flap, uh, fuck this to all of you. May your waddles flap happily. How's that, Wags? Perfect. May your waddles flap around. The waddles, kind of a gross thing about the turkey. You don't want to think about too much as the waddle. A little gross. Yeah. A little gross. What is it? It's below their neck?

Yeah. It's just kind of like, it's like the equivalent. It's just like a little chinny. It's chin flesh, right? You know what, just for a disgusting thing to think about, I'm sure it's happened when you go to, when you're going to like decapitate a turkey, uh, like you cut through its head. Hold on a second. Hold on. I just, I just want to, I just want to, I just want to quote you here. Yeah. When you're going to decapitate a turkey. Look, let's not, let's not mince words here. We understand that an animal has to be slaughtered in order for a meat to be procured. So when you, when you execute this turkey, uh, you, you decapitate it, you like snap through its spinal column with your blade, but then the waddle is maybe still attached. It's like the

only thing with their, their head still attached. I'm sure that's happened. It's a grizzly thing to think about. So you think like these, these like turkey farm people are like, I got fucking waddle on me, bro. Yeah. I got, I got fucking, there's loose waddle on me. Oh, I got waddled. Oh, fuck. Oh, I got fucking waddled. It burns. Did you call me Annie? Annie, you need something? Not waddled. That's how you think waddle sounds. Annie, it's me, waddle. I waddle. That's more like it. I think, I think you're afraid to do waddle, which is, I mean, I guess I would understand why. Generally considered an anti-submitted caricature. Maybe I'm a little hesitant to fully commit in the age of Kyrie Irving. Yeah, maybe.

Well, I did LeBron, LeBron. Um, Jesus. Kanye came on in my shuffle the other day. And I was like, I don't know. I guess I got to skip ahead. I guess I got to skip ahead. It's still good. Michael Jackson. Same thing. It's still good. Michael Jackson is pretty good. Fucking good. But then also kind of seems like a choice if you go to a party and it's like Michael Jackson and Kanye only and you know what I mean? Like it feels like a little choicey. Look, well, yeah, if your playlist is like Michael Jackson and Kanye and R Kelly and Gary Glitter, then it's just like, okay, I know what you're doing here. But also, but hey,

you've been to one of my parties, it sounds like. Hey, look, people have no problem blasting Imagine and John Lennon strangled his mistress in a hot tub. So who, like whatever, there's all sorts of monsters making stuff that's very listenable. No, it wasn't his mistress, not Yoko. She didn't kill her, did he? He was like, the whole thing is like, he was like, Henry Nielsen stopped it. And he was like, he was going to murder her if I hadn't stopped it. He was like fucking drunk it out of his mind. Yeah.

Grim stuff. Imagine would hit differently, as they say. I was going to talk hot dogs at the top of this episode, but whatever, fine. We've got a different topic. Well, we got to introduce our guest, but why are you going to mention hot dogs? I just, I wanted, I've been eating the hot dogs. That's it. I got some turkey hot dogs lately. I got some turkey hot dogs and hot dogs for lunch. I like a turkey hot dog. I think turkey hot dogs are pretty good. You know what I used to do wags? I'd beer boil some turkey hot dogs. I thought they'd taste great.

Do you beer boil dogs ever or no? I'm more of a, I usually just fry them up in a pan. I usually just give them a nice little pan sear because I don't have a grill. Our Discord server, the Dosecorder Discord server fish are moderator over there. He is a, he's a great guy and he's also loves hot dogs. He's like a hot dog every day guy. The fucking hot dog freak. You know, it's good. You know, the turkey dogs, you know, it's great. Waddle dogs. You can get them, you can get all waddle if you want.

I'm not the dog. I'm a bug. All right. How do you know? Here's a little drop. Um, embarrassed to do that in front of our guests, which means our guest is funny. Here is a little drop wags. Here we go. God forbid you bump into Jay Sherman while you're there. That's an issue. It's going to give you a bad taste of the city. He's going to say it stinks.

He's going to think everything stinks. And pizza hut. Pizza. It's a pizza restaurant. I think their pizza stinks. I don't like their pizza. Right. Chicken. Stinks. This old sandwich. Stinks. Carrots.

Stinks. Hot salad. Stinks. David S. Pumpkins. Stinks. The Marvel Cinematic Universe. Stinks. Heathcliff.

Stinks. Comedy bang bang on IMC. Stinks. San Jose State University. Stinks. BP and Amazon. Stinks. This girl from my school.

Stinks. Very ticklish guys. Stinks. Subway. Eat. That was good. I liked that a lot. It ended with Subway too. The Love It Subway. I can't. It's perfect.

Perfect. And Wags, you kind of are the new Jay Sherman in many ways. Man, I wish. You wish? What about Jay Sherman? Jay Merman. What about Jay Sherman? Do you envy? I think he's more successful than me.

Yeah. The Critic Universe. It's kind of like a pretty high profile. More successful. Looks great. Yeah, there's a lot of things, I guess, to be jealous of. Howdy Dofam. Haven't submitted a drop since 2016. But I was inspired.

Jesus, this podcast been on for that long. Jesus. But I was inspired by Nick's recent Pizza Hut review to put something together. Hope it gives a couple of listeners a few small chuckles. Trevor and Cleveland. That's all we can ask for is to give a couple of listeners a few small chuckles with this podcast.

So if we've done our job already wise, we should just call it an episode. But we got to introduce our guests and do everything. We still got to do the episode. We sure do, Mitch. We sure do. And hey, our guests, very, very excited to have them here, from Killing It and the podcast Going Deep.

And the new movie Spirited, which is in theaters this Friday, November 11th, tomorrow. Wow. You can go check out Spirited with our guest Lily Sullivan. Hi, Lily. Hi. Wow. I can't believe it's out tomorrow. Tomorrow.

Tomorrow, canonically, tomorrow. This is very exciting. Look, maybe it's not tomorrow for us, but maybe it's tomorrow for all of you. Oh, the listeners. Maybe we're not recording the day the podcast releases. Maybe that's not what happens. It's our little secret.

What day is it? Tee. You don't know, but we do. Tee, tee, tee. I think I already said Halloween was last night, I think, possibly. But still, that doesn't, do you know what year it is? Maybe it's 2021, right?

2020. Tee, tee, tee. What year is it? Tee, tee. Lily, thank you so much for being here. Yes. I want to, I'm curious. We're talking sandwiches today,

which is a topic that people have a lot of opinions on. Yes. And although we are talking... But I just, I want to put... Before you get into sandwiches, I just want to say that we stumbled into, like, we're never good with, like, promoting someone's thing, and we just stumbled into this.

Like, it wasn't... We wanted to have you on the pod, and then it just worked out perfectly. It lined up. That's never happened ever, which is great. Check out the movie. Yeah, I have a small part, and I am on the biggest press tour of all time for it.

Hell yeah, I love it. It began here, and it's not going to stop. I'm so excited. And you know what? A lot of that film, check, filmed in the South Shore Plaza, we were talking before this, so keep your peepers out for the South Shore Plaza.

Very fun, for all you New England people. Might see a sunglasses hut, you recognize? What would you get in that South Shore Plaza? You know what? There used to be a great pizzeria Regina, because when I was a boy, and they had, they had, like, an oven, like a brick oven in the restaurant,

and then that's gone away. Now, Jesus, what do I go to the Plaza for? I don't even, I honestly can't. I don't know. Cinnabon, maybe? To staple? There is a cheesecake factory, where I've gone for dough boys.

Okay, all right. Oh, there's like this Italian steakhouse, that's really good. Fuck, what the hell is the name of it? Davios. Is it Davios there? Do you know Davios, Emma? Or Ilyli?

Do you? Yeah. I don't know Davios. It sounds good. I think that's a Northeast chain. Yeah, it's great. It's like bougie Italian food. It is.

It's good. Lily, where are you from? Because a bitch in Mitch M are talking New England local geography, which is I don't understand, is someone from SoCal. I'm actually from kind of all over, because I grew up in Chicago until I was 10,

but then I moved to Colorado, to like, to Telluride, Colorado. So there was no chain restaurants at all there, and we would have to go, we would have to drive an hour to get to anything exciting and good. Is Telluride, like, is that, like, where is that, is this mountainous?

Yeah, it's like a ski town. So it's like in the southwest corner of Colorado, kind of close to like Utah, but like kind of like a tinier aspen or veil kind of thing. Can I ask possibly a sensitive question? Yeah. Did you experience any shinings up there? Every day.

Oh my God. Daily shinings. A daily shinings. Every day. Dear God. No, but there were some haunted hotels in the area, like, like 45 minutes away, there was a, in Rico, Colorado,

there's a haunted hotel there. Ooh, all right. And then is the, Nick, you'll know this, Nick, because you're, and I'm sure you've been looking into it. Nick's been reading, he just read The Shining. He wrote The Shining this year for the first time. Yeah.

Are you on a, are you on a king kick? I know you're on a Kubrick kick, but are you on a king kick as well? Well, I've been watching The Kubrick's along with a blank check podcast. Our buddy's over there, they're doing Kubrick's filmography. So I've just been watching them all,

mostly rewatching, but, you know, I'd never seen Spartacus for one. And some of his very early stuff. But Stephen King, I'd like never read a Stephen King book, you know, like one of his novels before this year. And I just started reading all of them in publication order. And I'm only, but I'm like, yeah, whatever.

They're fucking long and I'm a slow ass reader. So I'm like 10 books in. But yeah, I read The Shining earlier this year. And The Shining's gonna, it's a good, it's good to tell. 10 books already this year. Yeah. I'm blown away. That's, that's pretty impressive.

That's so many books. That's so many books. And we're not even at the end of the year. So wow, I'm blown away. Um, you've beat my decade number, Wags. Exactly, exactly. Anyway. I'm averaging one or two over here, I want to say.

A year. He says he reads slow, but Wags, I think you're a pretty good reader. Yeah, that, yeah. Yeah. So the hotel, I don't know if you know the answer to this. Yeah. But there's, because there's a couple of hotels, right?

One is in the book, it's based in, it's in Colorado, right? And then the one that he actually based on is in California, King, right? The one that Stephen King based on, but there's one that's, isn't there also a haunted Shining hotel in Colorado too? Yeah. Like I, I can't remember what order it's in. Like is it that it, it took place in, it's based on a hotel in Colorado, but then they filmed it in one in California or like vice versa? I think it might be that.

Cause I remember, I remember Stephen King, I think stayed in Colorado. And that's what inspired the book. I think so, but I think he was in the Rockies. Oh, but, but isn't the movie in Colorado? I don't know. I don't know. No, the movie set, the movie's also set in Colorado, but it was maybe, I don't know where the set was. Okay. I mean, they probably filmed it in England, right?

I feel like the hotel itself is not in Colorado, but it's. That's what I thought. Yeah. But I don't, I don't remember. It's a mystery that we'll never know. We will never know. And there's absolutely no way to ever find out. So.

Yeah. Let's put it to bed. Yeah. Michael, you could easily bing it if you wanted to. But look, it's turkey season. It's not, it's not hollow spooky season. We're not talking to the, yeah. No more spooky stuff.

No more spooky stuff. We don't need to talk about that. I am curious because you mentioned that, that like, okay, it's an hour drive to, to, you know, even get a, to be in the presence of a chain restaurant. If you did make that lengthy drive, what were you craving? What would you be like, oh my God, there's that place? Well, I mean, I, I think I always had a craving for, um, always McDonald's like that will forever be.

Yeah. To be the place that you go. But it's funny because I, and now when I grew up, when I grew up and I moved to, like after college and I moved to Chicago, I never had a car there. But then when I moved to LA, I finally got a car and I realized like, I associate McDonald's with the car so much that I was like, wow, I can have McDonald's whenever I want. And it was like, you know, I moved at like 27.

So I could have had McDonald's anytime after I left Colorado, but I didn't put that together. But yeah, like, um, McDonald's or like, we would go, if we like played soccer somewhere, we would all go to like, uh, I mean, uh, chilies or something like that. But I was like less enthused by that kind of stuff. Right. That's fun. I like, but I like it with a big group going to chilies or something.

If, yeah, wait, you said after what? After like soccer, something like that. Yeah, that's, that's a lot of fun. Yeah. I actually, I lived in Evergreen, Colorado for when I first, when the first time I ever worked in the industry, I lived in Evergreen for three months and it was like elk mating. It was like truly one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

It was like, it was like gigantic elk or whatever. And I live with this lady, Judy, who worked on the movie. She was a very nice lady, Judy. And she's like, look out the window. And I, she was, she was wild. And I was like, what in like all these like, just hundreds of elk. And I was like, are they going to, I was like,

can they walk on my car? And she's like, yes. And I was like, they can just like destroy your car. She's like, yeah, it happens. And I was like, what the fuck? And there was like, just gigantic elk for miles. Why? I was, I had never seen anything like it.

Just like, like in the city or just out in the wilderness. This is Evergreen. So it's like kind of up in the, it's up in the mountains a little bit. Okay. Past Red Rocks, I believe, which is not too far out. Outside of the city. But like, yeah, just, just like a sea of elk or whatever. Just fucking making noises too.

There was like, like, I just made a moo noise, but like they would do like a, like a weird mating noise. They would do. Wow. You ever seen the elk's fucking, like the raccoons you saw fucking? Whoa, you saw raccoons fucking? I saw raccoons fucking outside of UCB. And it was the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life.

And I try to get people, I like try to tell people about it. I was like, look, and like everyone I told was like weirded out. Basically, they were like, what the fuck wrong with this guy? Why is this guy telling me this? Basically. I saw pigs having sex once and I'll never forget it. That's really good. The dicks on a pig are psychotic.

They're like a corkscrew. Yes, I heard this. And really long and like, like pig flesh colored. It's disgusting. Their dicks are like their tails. Yeah, exactly. God's got a sense of humor. There were seagulls also having sex that when we were in

Wagsmoor at the casino and my god sister saw them. I was at a dorm party once, my freshman year, and it was like mostly people, like it was like still in the early, like a week in the first few weeks of college. And I think like Brittany Spears, like her oops, I did it again or something like one, like a big Brittany Spears song had just come out. And people and like, like horny guys were like watching the video.

He's like, oh my god, she's so hot. And I don't remember what the context was. But at a certain point, I said, this fucking brings me back, dude. And at a certain point, I said, I brought up an anecdote. I said, people would just like telling stories. I saw two, I said, I saw two turtles fucking once at the zoo. That was my, my contribution. And some guy was like, I don't think this is like,

I don't want to talk about this. I just got shut down. Like we're good. We don't need, we don't need this story. It's so weird to me that like, like, it's hard for you to like, like it now, like putting the things together. I'm like, oh, it's so weird that Y's doesn't hang out with people more often.

And he kind of just hangs out by himself. Of course it makes sense. You're talking about turtles fucking each other. You're trying to be college. I mean, I would have loved it, sadly. I would have been on board. I would have been like, I want to hear more. Yeah, I see.

I'm like that kind of person too, where I like when people, like if it's like a shit story or like a, you saw random things fucking, I'm like a very on board here. Or even like, we were at a restaurant once, actually pretty recently, like a really intimate like sushi bar. And I sat next to this woman who's a nurse. And I was like talking to her and I'm like, oh, whoa, what's like the worst thing that you've ever seen?

And she starts telling it like really animated and loud. And the, like one of the sushi chefs came over and was like, I'm going to let you finish the story, but it has to be really quick. And you got to change the subject because she was talking about like graphic, like horrible injuries really loudly while everyone was eating.

And I was like, yes. A mouthful of raw fish. And you're hearing about fucking, dear God. Flesh. So I've never, I didn't see the elk fucking logs, but that mating call did turn me on. I'll tell you that. I got fucking worked up.

But you should, you should have said, Lily, I'm sure that you've probably have seen stuff like that. Like you've seen like the migrating elk or whatever the hell's going on. Oh yeah. Yeah, we, I mean, the elk are kind of everywhere and the deer and, and like bears like walking home,

lots of bears and, uh, Wow. Porcupines. Oh yeah. Like I, I saw porcupines. Porcupine, I mean skunks a lot of the time. My, my little brother actually, he walked by a dead skunk once

and it must have sprayed him. Like it was like a newly dead skunk. So I don't think like he fully realized what happened and he put his clothes that he was wearing just like in, in his backpack or something when he got home, like it was like, I'll wash them later. Like something random like that.

And then he, uh, the whole skunk smell like took over our house and we didn't know. And I went to school the next day and my friends realized that I like smelled like skunk because of that. Yeah. So it really sticked. That's the embarrassing part of how

the embarrassing, the, the skunk, like if you get, if something, your dog or something gets sprayed and then you're the kid at school that smells like skunk. Yeah. That's kind of, that's kind of. It's kind of the traumatic.

Yeah. That's very traumatic. But your skunk kid. I love like porcupines and skunks, two cool animals. They got the very cool power of smell and then also the, the, the, the, this power of spikes swags.

I think that's fascinating. Yeah. They're good powers. Armadillos got the power of armor. Like anytime an animal's got a clear power, I'm into it. It's very cool. Except the power of venom.

Yeah. One hundred percent. Well, look, without animals, they would never would have thought of Pokemon. I mean, just think about it. If animals didn't exist, I think we would have. I don't think, I don't think so.

I don't think mankind would have stumbled upon Pokemon if there were any animals. Was it, was it Miyamoto who came up with Pokemon? No, Miyamoto was not, not really much involved in, in Pokemon. It was a game freak, another developer that ended up being acquired by Nintendo and now has the Pokemon company

oversees the franchise. Ah, I never got sprayed. I never, I've never had my cats were never sprayed by skunks. Would just be zip. I never got, I never got a skunk treatment. But also, it's also cool that it's like, it's, it's a cool thing of a tomato bath.

That's how you get rid of, I mean, I don't even know if that works. Did you, Lily, did you attempt to tomato washing? I didn't know. I mean, I, when I was at school, I remember going to the bathroom and putting that like pink hand soap. I was like putting that on like my skin,

trying to like, it was like panic mode, clearly. Like it didn't make any sense. But we, yeah. I don't think we had to do anything like that. I don't think it was like that strong after a while. Must have aired out of the house. I don't know. Or maybe we smelled for days and I don't remember.

Maybe, I don't know. Next time, next time we do some improv together, I will be, I'm going to see if you smell like a skunk. My fear is I get sprayed by a skunk. I get in the bathtub. You know, someone comes to check on me. The, the tomato juice is gone. I'm just sitting there with a big belly wide.

Because I've drank the whole thing down. Yeah. It'd be embarrassing. Oh my God. Mother comes to check on me. I'm just laying in the tub. Michael, did you drink the bathtub tomato juice? And you did.

You'd have to fess up. I'm curious, Lily, the question I was trying to ask earlier, and I do want to get your take on this, because we are talking about a sandwich chain and people have strong opinions on sandwiches. What do you like on a sandwich? Do you have any personal favorites? And do you have any stay aways?

And also, if you wouldn't mind weighing in on waddles, what do you think of waddles? Are they gross? Yeah, waddles. Any waddles? Yeah. Yeah, I think waddles are gross. I think they, they're kind of like little like,

and they remind me of nutsacks. Yeah, sure. That's how I feel about them. And then in terms of sandwiches, I feel like it really depends on, you know, what the vibe of the sandwich is. Like I, I like like a fancy, if I'm doing like a fancy bread situation,

then I like a prosciutto, like mozzarella, tomato, kind of Italian version of something. That's a great sandwich. But if I'm doing like, like I love potbelly because of Chicago growing up there. So I get like a vegetarian sandwich there, weirdly enough. And that's like my jam. Hey, a good, a well-made veggie sandwich

can be an S tier sandwich. I really am into veggie sandwiches. I've gotten some really good ones from some, you know, like, like, like, you know, local delis. But then I've also gotten like a really, there's a really good one I think you can get from, from Jimmy John's of all places. I really like their veggie sandwich.

Go on, Mitch. Word by this fucking veggie sandwich talk. It can be good. Open your mind. It can be good. The, well, this is what's weird about potbelly is they do like a mushroom melt, is what it used to be called at least.

And I never would have been like into eating mushrooms on a sandwich. But for some reason, whatever's going on over there, I'm very on board. And that's what I still get. Well, I'll tell you what, the restaurant we're talking about today is very much, you could do an old veggie sandwich

for the, for, for, we're talking breakfast, of course. So I, I don't know. And I don't know how much, how many, how many veggies do you add on to your sandwich? We can get to that later. But do you, do you, are you a big G it? Oh man. Giardona.

Giardonos. Not, not Giardonos, because that's the restaurant, right? The, what's, what's, what's the hot? Giardonera. Thank you. Thank you, Emma. I love that.

Yes. What is it again? Giardonera. Giardonera. Giardonera. Emma is the Mitch Whisperer. She said, she understands. Well, hold on a second.

There's specific speech patterns. I didn't know what you were trying to say. Yeah. Hold on a second. Wigs, Emma travels to Chicago quite a bit. So she knows it. Yeah, I'm here right now. G, and so, see, so Wigs, do you, would you, do you know,

would you know how to pronounce that? Gi, I can't, I still can't do it. I was a Giardonera. I've always said it like that, but I don't know the right, the authentic pronunciation. Every time you go to say it, I want to complete what you're saying by saying Giardonos, but I know it's Giardonera.

And I do know Giardonos. Have we reviewed Giardonos? We did, didn't we? I don't, did we? I don't know. I'm not like that. Who fucking knows? Do you have, do you have favorite food spots?

And of course you did. Food spots in Chicago. You just, you just mentioned. Pop Ellie. Pop Ellie, that you love Pop Ellie, but Portillo's fan. I like Portillo's, but it was never like something I like grew up on, really. But I like, what do I like? I mean, Lumonades, I guess I could eat that.

I don't really, I was never like that big into deep dish, but it's part of the, the like chain restaurants there, I guess. Um, but yeah, oh, there's a Thai restaurant called Penny's Noodle Shop that there was a lot of those and that's really good. So yeah. One of the better food cities in, in the world. And then New Orleans, why? Cause I told you it was, was right up there as well.

But yeah. So when you, when you were talking, it is interesting because when you're talking sandwiches, you went prosciutto, mozzarella, kind of an Italian roux. Do you, is there a big separation in your head between sandwiches and subs? Is it the same thing? Do you classify them into the same thing? Yeah.

I think they're different. Yeah, I agree. So let's, let's, let's focus on subs then because this is a subway after all. Do you have like a, do you have like a go-to sub arrangement? Um, well truthfully, I've never like, I, I guess I've never been that into subs now that I think about it. Like I liked, I did like subway. By the way, we're pissed.

Nick and I are fucking pissed. I'm livid. Well, like the, like, I guess if I like a sandwich like heated up, so a hot sub I can be more on board with. But, uh, I did used to like subway and I would go and I would get the steak and cheese sub with Southwest sauce. Which I will say like the steak and cheese, I, and you know what?

This is, I probably shouldn't say this, but especially at the time when you got it, it seems like it was downright awful. Uh, like, I think it was, it was hard. It's like, it was like at its worst. Yep. It was at its lowest point. I think it has gotten better, but a steak and cheese at subway was very bad at one point. Yeah.

It was, it was, it was, it was like the most steak-umsy, steak-um meat. And then why is you've had DeAngelo's and you tried a bite of a steak and cheese, correct? I don't remember if I did or not. Probably. Okay. I would get, if it was going to go to waste, I probably just took a bite of it. Yeah. But I do remember DeAngelo was, was quite good.

I was like, oh wow, this place is legit. When I, when I had subway, because I didn't have subway for a long time growing, there was none around. There was always DeAngelo. So when I had subway steak and cheese after eating DeAngelo steak and cheese forever, I thought it was so bad. But then I think by comparison, subway steak and cheese is bad to almost every, anywhere. Yeah.

100%. I think that speaks to how deprived I was of fast food. Like I was like all about the steak and cheese. Yeah. What the hell goes on up there? What the hell can you eat and tell your ride? Is it just, is it like earthy, crunchy food? Is like, I'm sure that they were probably ahead of the curve on that stuff.

Yeah, there's that, but they're, I mean, everything's like a million dollars. So it was like, you know, even like the shitty bar food there is like really overpriced. And I mean, there was like, you know, a place that had chicken fingers. There's a pizza place, but it's all like really bad and very overpriced. It was just. Can we ask how your family ended up and tell your ride? Yeah. Your dad was riding a novel in an empty hotel.

Honestly, actually weirdly. So my grandfather was this like very successful writer in the 80s. Oh wow. And he had this like second home there, which is crazy. And so we would go there a lot growing up visiting him. And then my mom decided to write a book with him. So I moved with my mom to tell your ride for her to write a book with him. That's wild.

And then he basically married his Austrian editor and he like disowned our family. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Like he like was still, you know, would communicate with us, but he, he like wrote everyone out of the will and he like. Jesus. He wasn't a good, he wasn't a good dude, actually. Dear God.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's like, that was the, the impetus of us going there. It was like for my mom, like to write the book. And then we, we stayed after he left even. So pretty wild. I apologize for prying into family trauma. No, it's not. Way to go, Wags.

Anyway, let's talk subway breakfast. It was a very long time ago and everything's okay. So it's all good. I have a couple of Colorado questions for you. So in Telluride, you move up there and, and there are just no fast food chains up, up in this area or you're not allowed there. Okay. There's just nothing up there.

I think that the town like actually like was like, we don't want to have chain restaurants. And it's only 2000 people. So it's like a very small town and then the towns that are like an hour away or more like, you know, 10,000 people live there and they had like all the fast food. Yeah, that's, there, there's, so I live, I'm from Quincy Mass, which everyone, I'm just telling you, Lily, everyone, everyone that I've talked about this constantly and I'm doing so again. But I, we, we have fast food in my town, but they're not the one town over Milton.

They were, they were kind of like a wealthier town, a little, they were, they were snooty. I'm not saying Telluride is snooty, but they were like a little bit of like a little snooty town and they would like come over, you know, like if they want to fast food, they'd come over into Quincy. Some people, Jenny Slates from there and a couple other people are Statsky Wags, Jen Statsky, both from Milton. But that was like, that was Quincy's like kind of like a rival in many ways. We were like your Shelbyville.

We are, we are, I mean, I guess maybe we're Springfield because Springfield is like the dumber town in reality. Yeah. That's their, that's your equivalent of Shelbyville is. Yeah, I really like, well it's the, the Parks and Rec. It's like Pawnee and whatever the other town is. Yes, we're, we're, we're like, and I think we're Pawnee because Pawnee is like the idiot town.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, but, but, uh, that's, that's, that's, that's wild to just not have, just not have it available. Yeah, it was very different from my childhood. Yeah. It made, and it just made me like every time I got it, I was like on crack about it. I was so excited to have faster and still have, I'm still like that.

Like anytime I get to have it. So you probably ate it like the appropriate amount of times where Weigher and I had it on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. Yeah. But, uh, I got a question for you. You live in Colorado. Have you ever been to Casa Bonita? No.

Damn. I know. The elusive Casa Bonita. We almost went there for the, our Yark Dober chest, the month we had last month. We almost went to the closed, the closed restaurant that's not pirate themed or pirate, for Yark Dober chest. There's Blackbark's Cave, Wigs. There is a slight pirate theme.

It's, it's such a very, like it's such a thin connection. It's still not open. And it's also not open. It'll be fun to go and see if it is open. Maybe we'll be open when we get there. Don't you want to have adventures with me? Come on, we'll venture around the world. No, no, I want to see you on video chat once a week.

Um, I, I am curious about the, uh, about your breakfast taste because we're focusing on subway breakfast. What's your typical breakfast? Um, I like eggs and I like toast and some fruit, that kind of situation. Good meal. You're sitting, I don't know, I don't even know if you know this about me, wise, but I'm a toast nut. I, I loved, I, I love, I loved, I loved toast with butter.

When I was young, my grandma used to make me toast some white and I'd say, can you make me toast my butt with butter and cut up into a thousand pieces? That's what I would say. And she cut it into little squares. My poor grandma, who, you know, shouldn't have been doing that, but she would cut, she cut it out. She would cut, just toast me two pieces of toasting white bread, butter it, and then cut the old, all of them up into little squares.

And I loved it. But I, I still to this day, I'm like, I love, even when I'm like sick and I have to do like that weird apple sauce and toast and bananas, what a brat, the brat diet wise, if I, if I get like deathly ill, I, I kind of like eating the toast. I'm having a good time eating butter. I, I, buttered toast is great. I'm not sure if you're supposed to have butter on it, but I still, I love it. Ah, well if I can go for it.

Yeah, give me a shit. What are you going to have? Well, you need dry toast with butter on it. Come on. I love toast. All bread. I'm on board. Like also, it reminds me, I love grilled cheese is probably one of my favorite

sandwiches, like on white bread with American cheese and a lot of butter. But it's heaven. Yeah. Wow. Also, a thing that you think would be the easiest thing to do, but like a really great grilled cheese, not easy to pull off. I feel like it's like a, it's an art. You got to be good at it, Wigs.

I made a fucking spectacular grilled cheese last week. It was so fucking good. I got some, some, some sesame bread, like a sesame loaf from Bubba and Grandma, which is like a local bakery. And, and I, I took, I fucking, yes, it puts, you know, put butter on both sides. And then I made it with pepper jack cheese, like two pieces of pepper jack cheese, like layered on top of each other. And, you know, like, hey, I'll put that in the, I'll put it on a medium high heat.

And then you cover it, of course, you cover it so that the cheese melts. And it was just like, it was just perfectly toasted both sides. Texture was great. The good quality bread went a long way. But I was like, this is like one of the best grilled cheese sandwiches I've ever fucking made. And it's like within the past like seven days. Yeah. I was going to question you.

I was like, how good was this sandwich? But I don't think I've ever seen you be more confident in your entire life about how fucking good this sandwich was. But knock your fucking socks off. You left my house barefoot. You're so sincere about it that I'm afraid to even poke at it. I don't want to, I don't want to fucking, it sounds like you, it sounds like it was good.

And there's things about this, there's things about this grilled cheese, by the way, which makes me skeptical immediately. Pepper jack cheese is the first thing is pepper jack cheese. And then also set, was it sesame bread? Yeah. It's like, I mean, it's like, you know, it's kind of like a sort of, or sort of akin to a sourdough loaf, but it had sesame is like on the crust. It's a really good loaf.

I agree. I think, well, I don't think I would want the sesame's, but I, I could get by. If I was not going to have American cheese, I think I would have pepper jack. I like, that's my, my go-to. Well, you know what? Yeah. Maybe I got pepper jack on one of my breakfast sandwiches today. Wow.

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Pete's Super Sub? Is that what it was? It's probably the fifth time I've said this on the pod. Don't listen to the pod, don't listen to your intros. Pete's Super Submarines, 36,000 locations. Pete's Super Submarines. As of 2021, which it makes it the largest restaurant chain in the world, and they introduced breakfast at all US locations in 2010, that recently. Wait, what?

Yeah, I thought it was around before then, but apparently it went nationwide in 2010. And I've had Subway Breakfast a couple of times, I think maybe once for the podcast. Really? I think so, but it's- I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't- Not a common thing. Oh, you did it maybe when we were viewing Subway, you just got on your own, because we've never-

Yeah, just got like a separate breakfast. We've never reviewed Subway Breakfast. We've never done that, but like- We've never reviewed Subway Breakfast, and I've never had Subway Breakfast ever. Lily was about to walk, by the way. If you heard that, maybe we fucking reviewed Subway Breakfast before. No, this isn't Subway Breakfast 2. No, that was it.

But I did say, wow, that sounds insane. This show has reviewed Subway Breakfast twice. Sad. I've never eaten Subway Breakfast ever. This is my first Subway Breakfast bite of all time. Wow, and I got to tell you, look, okay, we've been mean to Subway over the years. We've been nice about Jared, but mean about the actual- Mean about the actual food at Subway.

Jared's a king. How could they do that to him? Exactly. I love Jared. They just, they really screwed him over. Yeah, they really, yeah. Like- You know Subway was behind all these accusations.

You know it's true. Oh, you know, they were just trying to push him out. Rotten hell, Jared. But we, I feel like we've gone back and forth on Subway Wikes because like, Subway sucks, sure. That's the easy thing to say is like, Subway sucks, whatever. Easy to say that. But then also at the same time, like you can go into Subway, you can get an Italian BMT,

or you can get a tuna sub, or you can do, and then, or for me, like a lot of times, like a turkey in Swiss and toast it and then add this stuff and make it your way. And you can make something good. You can make a passable lunch at Subway for sure. And I feel like we've kind of come around on that a little bit, but also it does suck. It's not great. I don't know. It's, I think it's bad.

I think it's also with food cost rising, it's now become a thing where it's like, well, okay, you know, now I'm paying like fucking $12 for a Subway sandwich, which feels like a, it just, it feels like a kick in the balls. And then also, but the things in its favor, although I don't think their food is great, there are like a few things that usually anyone can get at a Subway that are like, this is fine. This is okay. And then also it's consistent and it's everywhere and it's always open.

So like, if I'm in a fucking, you know, whatever, I'm, I'm, I'm out in Ohio in the suburbs and I don't know any of these options around there. I who fucking knows? I'm just out there. Fucking night stalker ass out there in Ohio, driving around. Yeah. Just got some plans. Fucking freak.

Some plans I'm executing. Everyone in Ohio fucking. Some wheels are on alert. So I'm out in the suburbs of Ohio for some undeclared reason. And I can, I know I can just find like, okay, there will be a Subway and I can figure out something to get here. So I, I, I mean, I, I'm not, I'm, I'm like, I'm very medium on Subway. I might be, I've been going in with like, this is like a three fork chain or two and a half fork

chain. It's like right in the middle. Everyone made fun of me when I said this, like the first time I reviewed Subway and I'm going to double down on it is that when I was a young man and I was going up to the birthday boy's house and we were working on sketches, sketches that would have people in stitches a few days later. I was, I would be looking for a cheap, a cheap dinner that, that wasn't super unhealthy and people are like, it's a loaf of bread.

I'm like, yes, I get that. But also I had like a turkey on wheat and a, in a Diet Coke. And for me, for like the alternative is worse, you know what I mean? I'm not saying that that's like a healthy sandwich. I'm just saying like, you could do way worse for a young kid who's just like getting dinner every night, every time he goes up to the birthday boy's house, like a turkey in Swiss on wheat toasted with onions and, and, and, and vinaigrette on it. That's all I would, I would, I would just red wine vinaigrette.

That's all I'd use. Like that's not, that's not bad. That's not, that's, that's, that's okay. It's not like your alternative is like, oh, I was going to, I was going to grill up a chicken breast and roast some Brussels sprouts. Like I was going to have, it's not like you were choosing between those things. The, your other option was you would go to like Carl's Jr. And get like a double Western bacon cheeseburger or whatever.

Yeah, exactly. Get like a fucking burrito. So I, I understand your rationale from that standpoint, you know, although we can't, Subway can be the healthier option amidst bad options. Lily, you mentioned the steak and cheese from Subway. Do you have any other biases heading in any, any Subway picks and pans? And also what the, why the hell do you like the steak and cheese? I don't think we ever got to the bottom of that.

Okay. The bottom of it is that I literally, well, first of all, I haven't had Subway in a very long time because I probably the last time I had it was, I mean, maybe college or something like that. Like a long time ago, because I think, because I was living in Chicago. So I would just get pot bellies or I would get Jimmy John's, I think instead. And I did never, did you go to college in Chicago? No, I went to college in Maine in New England.

Wow. You've been everywhere. Emma Stompin grounds. Just hopping around. Oh yeah. I'm from New Hampshire, but my family lives in Maine now. Oh my God, no way. I went to Bates College.

So I love it. Oh wow. Yeah. It's great. I've lived in the same county my entire life. Jesus Christ. Yeah, but so the bottom of the steak thing is that the last time I would, you know, that was my order there.

I would, I would get, I mean, I would get turkey once in a while, I think. But I would, I would, for some reason, kept going back to that nasty, disgusting, horrifying steak. The steak and cheese, which is so salty that like, if a slug comes in like, like one yard of it, it will melt. It is like the saltiest meat that there ever, do you agree, Wags? It's like super salty. That's salty. I mean, but, but also like it has the other, the other thing you can run into it

some way, some stuff is just like flavorless. And so I guess I'd rather have that versus like, you know, whatever this, this, this, this chicken salad sandwich that just tastes like nothing. Yeah. Lily, what, I cut you off before, when I, to give my great slug analogy there, but what, what were you about to say? Well, um, I had a friend be like, when I talked about doing this podcast and I said, we're going to Subway for breakfast and she, she eats a lot of fast food and she was like,

oh my God, I love Subway breakfast. You have to get steak on it. Wow. And I didn't do that today because I know I will, because I was like looking at the meat and I was like, I don't want this. How did I use to eat this? It's horrifying. Wow.

So yeah. Um, oh man. Well, it's a journey. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's get into it because I will say that. I'm glad, I'm glad you didn't look at our podcast before you came on too, because you would have had a similar situation where you say, I don't want this.

You never would have shown up. Here's one thing I'll say about Subway's, Subway's app. And I said this before, the app is not crap. I think when we did our app is crap, app is, app or crap episode, Mitch. This was one I spoke pretty highly of. It's very easy to order. It's, it's got a, it's got a very slick, uh, interface and, uh, you know, you can customize if it doesn't have a particular item at a particular location,

it'll say that it won't like you, you won't order it and then like have them, they won't call you and be like, Hey, we actually don't have this. It's like their inventory is updated, uh, you know, with what the, what the store has, uh, which is, which is helpful. And you can, and like, uh, you know, the app's good. The app's good. And so I put my order in on the app and went to pick it up and it was ready, like bright on time.

They were super nice there. I will say ordered a hot coffee on the app because like, I just, I like coffee with breakfast. And the guy was like, we don't have coffee here, um, which is, you know, not their fault, but he offered me a soda. Like he's like, do you want another drink? Any other drink? I was like, I'll just take a fountain soda and they put money in the tip jar and they saw, put money in the tip jar and he gave me the large soda.

He was like, wow. All right. Okay. So I got, I got a big soda. You just dox this guy's going to get fired. And then it was kind of, um, I won't say which location. And then I was kind of like, I was like, I went over the soda fountain and they had a fucking, like it wasn't a freestyle.

They had like a cherry coke, like, like nozzle. I was like, fuck straight from the spigot. I'm going to get a fucking 32 ounce cherry coke and drink it because I'm not going to do that. And you know what? It was fucking great. It was a great fountain cherry coke. You sick freak. What time was this at?

9am. Jesus Christ. You woke up the spigot. You fucking woke up that spigot. You're the first person to get the cherry coke. So I was so good. Um, I just, I just opened the last thing that I ordered from Subway. The only thing I hadn't ordered, uh, I'm sorry.

The only thing I hadn't opened, um, and also it's kind of named after me, Wags. I'll just show you right here. Muscle, muscle man. Holy, you have a muscle man. I thought you were a squeezable. You both thought I've been squeezable? That's a compliment. Muscle man's unsweetened applesauce in a bag.

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to suck some of this down. It's the last thing I didn't really try. Wags, I, I, uh, I use the app as well, but I got delivery. Um, wow. And, uh, yeah, there's an option to get delivery on some of these apps. I think it's just delivered by a third party. Um, but I also think it's weird that like the app does need to be updated just a little bit because you like put in your order and it's like Jared's preparing your order

and it shows Jared like excitedly making sandwiches. Gives a thumbs up. It's also like, like Jared is, Jared has received your order and then you see him like hunched over a desktop, like looking at it, but he's like kind of got like a leering expression on his face. And you're like, wait a minute. And also he is in a prison jumpsuit. So it makes me feel like this must have been.

They did update it. Yeah, right. It feels like, it feels like this is recent. And he has computer in prison? Weird. I'm going to, I'm going to try some of those muscle man's, muscle man's, unsweetened, squeezable, um, uh, applesauce. Here we go.

I'm taking it down. Mitch just took a ample chug, a squeezable applesauce. I took a huge shot of that. That was a fucking. It was too squeezable. It was, it was way too squeezable. It was like a gigantic load of fucking applesauce shot into my mouth. I'm being honest with you.

It's fucking wild. It was way too, I've never eaten. It was like a huge, like I had to be like, I, I gulped it. I had to go go like to fucking swallow the applesauce. Is it all gone now? Did you do the whole thing? It's almost all gone. Wow.

It was, I was, I almost won. I almost, I almost won it. Well, I, here I'll do, I'm going to taste a little bit more. All right. Mitch is going back for seconds. That thing is, don't squeeze it as much as I did. Um, not bad. It's decent.

There's no real sides here for like morning sides. Well, yes, that's a big issue. Yeah. There's coffee. I got myself a simply apple because there's always, and I also got a simply orange, which I drink a little bit of. I got that too. Simply apple is good.

I, you don't, you really see simply apple in the, like a, like that. You don't see those floating around as much as the orange. But I really, I really enjoy the, the, the apple juice. Look, I'm just going to get to it. And I'll, you guys can, you guys can agree with me or disagree with me. I was fucking blown away. Why? My socks were blown off.

I think subway breakfast is fucking great. What? Yeah. Okay. My jaw is on the ground. I thought it was fucking fantastic. I'm floored by this. Please tell me why.

I, look, I got four different sandwiches to try. And I was like, I'm sure that this is going to, I was just so sure this was going to be bad. So you came, you came in with like bottom of the barrel expectations. Like this is going to be an apple. I came in with bottom of the barrel expectations. Okay. Hell, even that squeezable, even, man, I felt, I felt like when I squeeze them out, it felt like it went up into like my nose and eyes.

You know when that happens? Like where it feels like you can taste stuff like in your sinuses. You think you're drowning in it? Truly. The drowning sensation. It truly feels like I am drowning in applesauce. It's disgusting. I can't get over you describing it as a load.

It was like a big fucking shot back to the back of your throat. It's fucking huge load like fucking popped in my mouth. It was this sauce, this squeezable sauce. It was, it was, it was a fucking load. Um, but I got, here's the four sandwiches I got. I got a black forest ham, egg and cheese, uh, a six inch and I got that on the flat bread. I got a steak and cheese. I'm sorry, steak, egg and cheese.

Um, and that was also on the flat bread. Then I got a bacon, egg and cheese wrap. That was a wrap, of course. And I got an egg and cheese wrap. So we overlap with one item. I got the egg and cheese wrap as well. I went no meat for all of mine, uh, because I, like all of their meat was- This is insane.

Well, like, like, like, look, they didn't have any, any poultry options, right? So I would have been like, am I going to get, I didn't want to get bacon. I didn't want to get ham. I didn't really want to get like a, a subway tier, like pork product or their steak. I was just like, I'll just go vegetarian and I'll see how they're vegetarian. Um, uh, you know, like breakfast options are, uh, because some of their, their vegetarian lunch options are decent. So I got the egg and cheese wrap.

And then they also got the egg and cheese on the flat bread. And I guess you can get a sandwich. You can get a proper sandwich on a bun there, although it defaults you to the flat bread. Lily, what was your rundown of, of, of sandwiches? I, so I actually only just got one. I feel bad. I should have gotten more, but I got the egg and cheese on the flat bread. And I got an orange juice.

And I wanted a coffee as well, but they were out of coffee at my subway too, even though they had the coffee machine was there. Yeah. It feels like the coffee, the coffee machine at, at, uh, at subway is like the McFlurry machine at McDonald's in terms of reliability. Yes. Because it's always broken. It's always out for some reason, which I understand.

It's probably a huge pain in the ass for the fucking workers who are trying to make a bunch of sandwiches to order to also be brewing fresh coffee every half hour. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Well, look, Wags, this was like, there's something that I thought I was, I was like, I'm not going to like this one at all. It's the black forest ham, egg and cheese. I added to that green bell peppers, which I don't usually do.

And I don't usually eat green bell peppers even ever. I like that, sure. You're kind of doing like a Denver omelet sort of thing. I like that. Thank you, Wags. And guess what else? You're going to like this too. I added some jalapenos in there too, gave it a little yuck.

And let me tell you, I bit into that and I was like, this is fucking fantastic. It hit the spot. Fantastic. I loved it. It was fantastic. What, someway did you go to, where is this one? It was delivered from, it was a bit away.

Maybe that's the only one that had delivery, but it was on sunset, I believe. It fucking knocked it out of the park. I bit into that and I was like, this is, so it has that black forest ham and the egg and cheese and the cheese. I just kept the cheese, American cheese. But man, it was great. It was a great same. Like I said, it was fantastic.

The bell peppers added like a nice crisp bite to it. The jalapenos gave it a little kick, Wags. That was the one I finished. It was my bite of the morn. I don't know what you can say for bite, it's not bite of the night because it's morning. Help me out here. Bite of the day.

All right, there we go. There you go, bite of the day. Perfect, solved. Thank you, Lily. We would have, we probably would have spent 10 minutes on it if you just didn't say bite of the day. Yeah, I was thinking like 8M. Is that something?

But that's, that's pretty good. Never mind. Okay, the bite of the day, aka 8M. I, I, I really enjoyed it. And then I got a bacon, egg, and cheese wrap. And I, for this one, I got, I got cheddar cheese and I got, I put some peppercorn ranch in there. That's what I did.

I had a peppercorn ranch again. Fantastic. I loved it. It was great. It was great. It tasted great. I was, I was kind of blown away. So then finally the egg, this is not the final sandwich,

but egg and cheese wrap. So no meat. Well, this is the one I got with no meat. I added to it spinach, red onions, banana peppers. And then I also got that with pepper jack. And then I added a roasted garlic aioli. We were so close on this one, Mitch. I almost got the exact same thing.

The only difference is that I got instead of, instead of banana peppers, I got jalapenos, because I'm a bit of a heat seeker. And instead of the, Oh, what? Banana peppers aren't hot now? What the fuck is that? No, no, no.

I just like, I like that's, that's the reason I opted for jalapenos. Banana peppers are hot enough. I was also going to say that, that the, the sauce I got instead of your aioli, I got the Baja Chipotle, which was nice. But we, we have very similar egg and cheese wraps, but go on. I thought this one was like a little,

like the, the, the spinach was just kind of doing, it was, it was kind of, it took up a lot of, it's filled up a lot of space here that I was like. A lot of spinach on this. Yeah. Yeah. And I, and I almost regretted adding spinach to it. I thought this was okay though.

This was, this was probably the worst of the, I mean, not probably. This is definitely the worst of the bunch. And it sounds like this is more like what your guys experience was like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's making me regret what I ordered.

Even though I highly doubt no matter what I got, I don't think I would be saying I'm blown away. What the fuck? Hey, here's what I got to say. You two are both extremely funny and you're artists in your own right. But you know what? Maybe you guys can't just cut it as sandwich artists, either of you. I don't think you, I don't think you, I don't, I think that you've,

I think you fucked up your sandwich artist tree in this one. I think I did. I, I got the egg and cheese on the flatbread with tomato and spinach. And then I like panicked and I said Southwest sauce. I was like, oh God, but then when I started eating it, I was like, I don't taste anything. Like nothing, except for maybe the tomato came through. Yeah.

Can you give us a bit of a rundown of how you pan it, where you're like, was it just a sort of thing where they're like, do you want sauce? And you're like, Southwest. Like you just, you just like come out of it. That was exactly it. Wow. That was literally verbatim.

What happened? I think because I haven't been to a subway in so long. And by the way, I, so I'm in like Woodridge, Illinois. Just outside of Chicago, seeing my grandparents. So I drove to the subway, physically went and was in there, just me and like a guy at like 9am. It looked like he hadn't seen anybody. He didn't expect to see anybody for like all day when I came in.

How long was your drive, by the way? Because I'm feeling guilty about all this. No, no, it was like five minutes. It's, it's all, it's like a suburban area. We still feel pretty guilty. I wanted to get out of the house. It was good. It was my own little adventure.

When you panicked and instead South West sauce was the, was the subway guy like fucking noob. Like, did he know that you like fucking panicked? Could he tell? First time. First time fucking. Some, it was like, you know, I couldn't tell if he was just like hates his job so much or if he was like judging me.

One of those moments. Could it be possible for both? Yeah. Yeah, I think it was both. I would imagine if you're. I didn't even taste it. Yeah. That, that, that was, that was my big issue.

I was just, just on that, on that note, I would imagine if you're a subway sandwich artist and, and to anyone, anyone at all over, any of our listeners out there work at Subway, God bless you. Thank you for your service. That's a, that's a, that's a tough job. A lot of customers are fucking insane. And it's, it's, uh, a lot of those places are under staff. Yeah.

The, the, I would imagine though. We, we, we, we, we just, quickly, I'm just going to say, because we did mention like you can add anything you want to the sandwich and like that is a plus side to Subway that also makes customers so annoying. That's what I was going to say. Yes. Yeah. That, no, that's exactly my point.

It's like, I would imagine it's like a bartender of like, you've seen it all. You've like, at a certain point you've had someone order like, Hey, can I have a fucking, uh, you know, can I have a martini, uh, extra dirty, and can you throw in sweet and sour? You know what I mean? Like, like, like, what? You want that? Okay.

I guess I could do it, you know? And I imagine the same thing with sandwich artists is like people are like asking for all sorts of crazy shit on their fucking, you know, whatever. Uh, they're, they're mixing sweet and salty and, and, and throwing ingredients on a breakfast sandwich that have no business being there. But, but that was basically your, your takeaway, Lily, was that like, it just didn't have any flavor to it at all. Yeah.

Well, that's the thing. Like I, I was ready to be like, okay, maybe I just like fucked up and I like didn't order it, order, right? Um, which I didn't, but at the same time, um, yeah, I was like shocked at like how flavorless it all was. So I was just like, oh, well, I guess I like didn't even mess it up. That like what, what could even the best be for now? I'm sitting here with you and you're, you loved it.

So I'm, I'm, I'm heartbroken. Well, let's see what Wags thinks. Cause I'm, I'm, I'm heartbroken. I thought, I thought we were all going to be on board with this. I thought, I thought everyone was going to love it. I think I'm probably going to be a middle path here because I will say it exceeded my meager expectations. I would say that it was, it was very edible.

And if I was in a situation where I was like, cause this is subway breakfast is desperation time, right? It's like, well, I got jury duty and there's just the subway is the only option, uh, on the ground level here. I guess I'll do a subway breakfast or I'm at the airport and there's a subway in my terminal. I guess I'll fucking do subway breakfast going to eat something, uh, uh, before this, this, this, you know, transcontinental flight.

Like I understand that, but, but, and so if I was in one of those situations and I got this breakfast egg and cheese wrap, I'd be like, this is fine. This is sustenance. The egg and cheese, I think was the low light. I agree with you, Lily. It just did not have any flavor to it. Like the only thing going for it was a little bit of crunch from that artisan flatbread. I think Mitch's call in terms of throwing on some green bell peppers is a great idea

because a little bit of crunch would have helped this. I did throw extra cheese on this. I got mine with American cheese and I did extra cheese, which was provided really the only flavor because the egg is just completely flavors. And that, what I think is why I can't get fully on board or really on board, uh, you know, all that, but I just feel like the eggs at Subway are, are they're, they're low quality or at least the ones I got. Like it's just, it just felt like it was mostly white and it felt like it was

completely unseasoned and it felt like it just had this kind of rubbery inert texture. Yeah, you might have gotten a waddle. I think I got a waddle. I think you might have gotten a waddle. Why is, I need, I need, I need more backstory on this. You're doing jury duty. What's the trial here in the, when you get Subway for breakfast? What are you, what are you sitting on?

Trial of the century. It's the trial of the century. The trial of the century. What was that? Was that OJ? The man I refer to is the orange buffoon. No, the trial of this century. Donald Trump has been indicted.

They're going to send the president to prison. It's the trial of the century and your only option is Subway breakfast. Wow. And you're going to be the one to hold out that says not guilty? Yeah, 12 angry men style. He didn't do it. You guys, he didn't do it. He didn't do it.

Come on. That's how good Subway breakfast is. It's why he just wants to keep going back in day after day. He wants to get that Subway breakfast. Well, I got one last breakfast sandwich wigs. And Lily, Lily, I think you're going to like this. I think it's a mistake. You didn't do it.

The steak, egg, and cheese is what I got for my last one. And I got that on flatbread. And I got salt and pepper on it. And you know what? It was my runner up. I fucking loved it. It was great. It was really, really, really good.

Your friend wasn't lying to you. It was great. What was I thinking? Yeah. Well, that's where all that salt. My eggs probably would have taste seasoned if it had that salty steak on it. That's true.

And I also put salt and pepper on the steak. And so it was, and it honestly didn't taste too much like a salt bomb. It was, it was, it was decent. I think that their steak has gotten better. But, but I loved it. I had a great time. Loved it.

Fantastic. I love it. Loved it. Fantastic. Incredible. I think it's great. I was, I was just going to say, real quick, I always add, yeah,

the one thing I'll always do at Subway is, as salt and pepper on every sandwich, because I think just like whatever is that, that always pluses it up a little bit. The breakfast egg and cheese wrap, I'll mention real quick, was definitely better than the egg and cheese. And I finished it.

I ate that whole fucking thing. I mean, I was just hungry. But I got, I put pepper jack on that. I did extra cheese as well, which I, I advise if you don't get a protein, because I think the cheesening is really the only flavor you're going to get. Although the jalapenos helped.

Cheesening? The, oh, like seasoning, but cheese. Yeah, and a little of seasoning, the cheesening. I think the jalapenos helped. Got it. The Baja Chipotle helped. And the sliced avocado, which I don't know if I mentioned,

but that just gave it a little bit of something. So this one ended up costing 14 fucking dollars. What? With my extra cheese and the sliced avocado, which made, which to me, I was like, this is fucking outrageous. I had so much rather just have a bagel right now, versus this, this thing.

Well, don't be such a fancy fucker and add avocado to it. I don't think it's unreasonable to add avocado and extra cheese. Like make two pluses. You were a little fancy fucker and you added avocado. Coastal elite to avocado like that.

Agreed. Thank you, Lily. I hope we see the orange buffoon in an orange jumpsuit, because I'm a coastal elite. Will Smith could have killed Chris Rock when he slapped him. It was outrageous.

He could have. I'm sensed about that, because I'm a coastal elite. We haven't talked about the slap in so long and like you guys. People have forgotten about the slap. What was that? It was crazy.

And we need to reanalyze the slap now. The slap was, the slap was, I think it's, you know what? The slap ended up being a lot of fun in the end. We like the slap. The slap. I'm pro-slap. I'm glad the slap happened.

And I'm glad that Will Smith is banned for 10 years, so no one else will be slapped. And banned from the Doughboys podcast for 10 years as well. For 10 years. Here's my favorite thing I got from Subway. And here would be my breakfast option if I was in a pinch and had to go here. Oatmeal raisin cookie.

Subway cookies are good, and an oatmeal raisin cookie is kind of like a breakfast pastry. This is bullshit. So that was my favorite bite. That was my bite all day. Why couldn't you get turkey on one of your egg sandwiches? Couldn't you just ask for it?

I guess I could have done it. I mean, like all their default options were, do all their default meat options were some sort of pork product or beef product. And so I was just like, yeah, I could have done that possible. I could have, I could have thrown turkey on there. I want to try the Reagan cheese though. I think that was worth, I think it was worth experiencing.

Look, I'm just going to be honest with you. Lily, I know it's your first time on here, but you both fucked up really bad. I think you both fucked up big time. I absolutely know I did. That's the thing. To a certain extent, I knew at the moment I tasted it.

And I think that's honestly part of the curse of subway too, where like, obviously you have to figure out, you have to do the work to figure out your order every time, you know, you go, and it's this paradox of choice where there's so much choice that you might have regretting what you got. Yeah, it's stressful. Yeah.

Until you figure it out. And then when you figure it out, you probably get the same thing every time you go. But yeah, I know I fucked up. Okay. I know I fucked up. But I still think here's the other thing I was going to say. When I got the email that we were going to do

subway breakfast, and obviously I almost was like, no, I won't be on the podcast. But when I got that email, then I was like, what does subway even serve for breakfast? Because I've never been there. And all the pictures are full of like foot, like foot long sub bread full of like eggs and bacon. That is a nasty sight or even idea of having like

eggs filled up in a sub sandwich is kind of gross. I'm not too much. Fucking sick to me. And then I thought I was seeing like other pictures of the breakfast, like these little hash brown bites, but that's actually just like at subway in the Philippines. They have those. And I was like, why don't we have that?

If they had that, I would have been like pounding little hash brown bites. That would have been huge. There's an issue if you just search like subway menu, like the second link was like the UK menu. It's a little look subway. The app surprisingly is great, but it's such, it is a it is a weird chain restaurant.

And it's people don't care about it as much anymore wise, right? But it still is in the, you know, one of the biggest chains in the, it is the biggest chain in the world, right? Yeah. Well, yeah, I said that in the intro. Yeah, I don't, I don't listen to the intro. I don't listen to it.

I know you don't, but look, we had different experiences. I don't know what happened. I, I, I loved it. I had a great time. I have a question Mitch, is it possible that you loved it so much because you're eating this coming off a huge hangover? Emma, why did you have to spill the beans?

God is us. That's absolutely it. It's a my thought this whole time. I couldn't let it go. Emma? Cause anything tastes good on it. Emma, we're, we're going to be talking off pod. Okay.

I just couldn't get the thought out of my head. I had to ask it. I'm going to say this. Look, did, did I do a podcast with the sloppy boys last night and get like filthy cross-eyed drunk? Yes. Was I hungover this morning? Yes.

But when they ate the food, I wasn't like, I'm feeling okay now. I'm like, I'm, yeah. Cause you ate the food? No, I'm like, when I was eating the food, I wasn't like, oh, I can't eat this or anything like that. Like it wasn't a scenario like this. Cause it was saving your life. No, it wasn't a scenario like that.

I felt, I felt better. Look, I'm teasing. It's, it didn't taste good because of the hangover. This is, this would have been fine on a clear day, but now this, now it's fucked up. Now I look like major league baseball in the fucking 90s. Why? Cause this is bullshit.

You were juicing. Emma, what the fuck? I'll cut it. That's, that's dope boys, that's dope boys juicing. Being, going in hungover. That's bad. Anything's going to taste good. This is a, by the way, I, you mentioned Subway UK

and I couldn't resist bringing up the menu. Look at this fucking shit. Look at what they have over in Subway UK that we're being deprived of. Hot sides, nacho chicken bites, bowl of meatballs, hash browns. Wow. Dorito nachos? Doritos nachos.

I would have ordered all this stuff and I probably would have been like, I actually love it, but. Yeah. This looks good as hell. And I wouldn't be so critical of my sandwich cause there would have been some like fun sides going on. Yes. The sandwiches look pretty standard.

I don't see anything particularly UK about any of these. There's a, there's a chicken tikka sandwich. That looks fun. Oh yeah. Yeah. Mitch left. Yeah. He's coming to Chicago to beat my ass.

I can't wait for you to beat the shit out of Mitch. Where did he go? I'm coming back. Hold on. Mitch is yelling, I'm coming back. Hold on. I'm not sure if the mic is bigger than that. You can still hear us. Okay. Well, Lily, any other thoughts on Subway breakfast

before we get to our closing remarks? Well, I think it was, like, I don't ever really, I'm not interested enough even based on what was said to- Yeah, I'm back now. Yeah, I'm with you. Wow. Like, I would not go back for breakfast. Like the rave reviews that you've given today,

but it's still not enough for me based on what I saw to even be interested. He's kidding. He still has it. I have the steak egg and cheese flatbread. I just nuked it a little bit in the microwave. I'm going to eat some more. All right. Mitch is taking his final bite while he's doing that. So, Lily, we are going to get to our final thoughts on Subway breakfast.

So, here's how this will work. We'll each go around, give a closing argument if you will, anything that you want to share that you haven't already shared, and then any other thoughts on Subway in general that you feel are relevant based on this or previous visits, and then end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks. You are our guest. We'll begin with you.

Okay. Well, like I said, I really didn't like what I did there. I panicked. I didn't pick a good order. But I also think that based on the egg and based on the flatbread, which I found all pretty flavorless, even the cheese was not enough to save it, I'm not interested by the menu at all. I'm like, I don't need it.

I would rather have a different fast food breakfast 100% anytime. And it's not healthy enough either to make sense to me to go back. But that being said, Subway is what it is. And not the end of the world if I go there. So I give it, what's the lowest people give? One, two? Yeah, it's zero to five. You can give zero.

You can give zero forks if you want to. There's half fork, one fork. I'll give one. I'll give one because I understand I could have done better. One, four? I understand that there's a version of this breakfast where I might have been like, oh, that was okay. This, yeah.

There's never been a wider gap here. This is insane. This is insane. Here, I'm going to let you go last because if you go five forks, I'm going to lose my fucking mind. There's no way this is a five fork restaurant. Even if you were chugging tequila until 4 a.m. with a floppy voice. I am going to-

I'm eating my steak egg and cheese on a flat plate. It's fantastic. I'm enjoying it right now. I think you're being hyperbolic. But that said, I love that you have a different take. I think this place is, I think Subway Breakfast is fine. I think if I was going back for Subway Breakfast, I'd maybe get an egg and cheese wrap.

I'd also just consider getting, I'm reminded of when I worked at Activision and I was working QA and there was a period where we had like fucking 12 hour shifts starting at 6 a.m. as we were crunching. And we would go in and as part of it, they would order breakfast for us. And this dude on my team was just like one day,

I think we're just all tired of breakfast from the same diner that was in the same office park. He was just like, can I just get like a fucking club sandwich? You got a club sandwich at like 6 a.m. And I remember just all of a sudden, we were like, that looks pretty good, honestly. Like it's just like, I think I might consider

like just getting like a turkey sandwich, like a regular ass sandwich for the regular menu, which they'll let you do that. What is this guy's fucking deal? Can I just get a fucking club sandwich? Fucking relax, dude. Well, I don't think he said it like that. I think you just, I think he asked politely.

I agree with that. Yeah. I think ordering after lunch menu might be the way to go. I think the egg is just low quality and that's the big, big drag on all of the subway breakfasts. Maybe it's locational dependent. Certainly adding a meat seems to help, but if you're getting it without, with just egg and cheese,

I think you're not going to be in great shape there breakfast wise. Also, like part of reading about this is just like, it seems like it came from, this was, this came down from corporate, like the, like adding subway breakfast because it was like, well, the stores are open anyway, and you're, because the employees have to break, bake bread. So why don't we give them fucking something else to do

to add additional revenue, which kind of sucks. It's just like, hey, yeah, yeah, you know, we know you have to get in here at six AM to bake bread, but also you got to like, deal with a fucking a hungover guy stumbling in, ordering an egg and cheese. The hell? And so, that said, I, not necessarily you,

but you know, sometimes, sometimes a squeezable guy might walk in, just taking a gin. Jesus. I'm going to give this, I don't think it's terrible. I don't think it's one fork. I don't think it's three forks. I guess I'll split that. I'll say two forks one time.

I think that's about where I land with subway breakfast. Mitch, take us home. This is insane to me. Look, my journey with subway, I've never loved subway. I was a D'Angelo man, you know this. In college, there was like a subway knockoff in my, in between the East Tower and West Tower in Ithaca College. And I would get it a lot there, but I was like, this is not great.

But it, you know, it's, it's served its purpose. And then still again, when I came out, when I, when I was in LA, and I was eating at dinner at the birthday boy's house, it served its purpose. And I couldn't make good versions of the sandwich I wanted to. But still, you know, we made, we shit on Jared, we shit on subway in general. But I got to give them their do why's here.

I liked my breakfast a lot. I loved it. I had a great time. They were blown away. Yeah. I was the ham and cheese. I was blown away. And I used to be a ham, egg, and cheese guy.

Back in, when I ordered like a Duncan, I used to be a ham, egg, and cheese on a plain bagel I would do for a while. And I hadn't had ham in, in like a, in a breakfast sandwich for a bit. But man, with those fresh green peppers and the jalapenos, it just, it really worked for me. Wags, I, I, I can't go below four forks. Wow. I'm going four and a quarter forks.

Wow. Clearly something got mixed up here. Some wires got crossed. I have full respect for this. I mean, I think the, the, the ham one that you talked about sounds like probably the one I would try. Because the steak looked, the steak still looks like horrifying, even though I have a nostalgia for probably that if I was.

I just ate that steak sandwich and it was, it was pretty damn good. It was, it was, I don't know what happened. I, I, I'm one who would want this. I want a shit on Subway. But I don't know why this, it fucking worked out for me. It, it, it worked. Well, I'm glad that it did. And I'm glad that we had different opinions.

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You're like, I got one more thing I got to say before we get into the segment. So go ahead. I mean, first of all, we may as well just wrap up the show right now. You know what I mean? I think it's just, and honestly, should do Subway Breakfast part two next week. Don't make me go back. Hi.

Lily, you're banned from ever doing Subway Breakfast again. You can never do Subway Breakfast again. Thank you. Thank God. We won't ban you from the show. We would not only want you back, but need you back. You got to come back and do the show. You're now in the Doe Boys universe, unfortunately, for you.

I feel blessed. When I was wrapping up my review, there was one thing I wanted to address, which is someone who works in the Doe Boys media empire kind of called into question the integrity of the show. Wow. Emma Erdbrink, I just want to say, for you to question my integrity and say that my score was somehow influenced by

my hangover that I acquired with the sloppy boys last night, is unacceptable wise. And I think that now there's a big question mark hovering over my four and a quarter fork score. I don't think that that's fair. I was just asking if your hangover affected your review. I wasn't saying it did. I was asking.

She was just asking questions. And I think that's fair. I think it's fair to introduce that evidence. And I'll also say this, Mitch, I'm going to stick up for you. I don't think you being hungover influenced your score. That's my boy. I think you just like this shitty food for some weird reason. Maybe you have a bad taste.

I don't know. Honestly, I wish I was hungover when I ate it. Like I probably would have liked it more. Look, I went a little too wild with the sloppy boys last night and, hey, they live up to their name. My house is a fucking mess. But, yes, I was a little not feeling great this morning, but it did not affect my overall score.

I enjoyed that shitty food inexplicably, like you said. So I just want to get that across. That's all. All right, thank you. It's resolved. It's resolved. But Mitch, the debate is only going to continue, because I've got some hot button food topics,

and we will serve as judge, jury, and executioner. It's the long awaited return of our segment, Food Court. Wow. Wow. Mitch, we have not done Food Court since- When the fuck did we do this? Since the Obama administration. Jesus.

March 17, 2016. Our associate producer, Amelia Moreno, sent in a new Food Court pitch, and I was like, hey, we'll just fucking do Food Court. So here's how this will work. When we previously did it, we had you and the guest would argue, and then I would just be judge. And I feel like I think that was maybe not the best system.

So I'm just going to say the three of us will serve as a tribunal. And if there's some sort of dispute that needs to be resolved, we can always bring in Emma. But I think with the three of us, it'll either be unanimous or split where something will win with each of these. So here's how this will work. Can I say one last thing?

The season of the witch has just passed us. We're now in Turkey season. That's right. But it might also be the cheesing of the witch. I'm using one of your words that you came up with, cheesing, because you guys couldn't taste the cheese on your Subway breakfast sandwiches. That was one of the issues.

Yeah. I got extra cheese. I got extra cheese. I could taste the cheese. I think you might have been cheeseless, Lily. I don't understand what happened here. Are you kidding? It was not cheese, Liz.

I ordered pepper jack also, by the way. And I could not taste it for the life of me, because honestly, I love, like we talked about at the beginning, I'm all about a bread. I'm all about a cheese. And I like egg, fine. But like, I would have been happy if just like, okay, bread and cheese.

But that's not what happened today. Lily, face the facts. You were cheeseless. You're just realizing it now. Cheese? No, I watched him put the cheese on, because at Subway, you get to watch them cook. What is this?

What is this weird? What is this cheesening, Wags? Why is there, why, why are, what happened here? You guys couldn't taste any, whatever. No, I said I could taste the cheese. I said the cheese was one of the only, I got extra cheese on both sandwiches, and the cheese was one of the only things

giving it any sort of flavor at all. It's good. Lily, I'm sad that you didn't enjoy it, but let's get, let's argue about different things now. Okay, okay. Here we go. All right. So with food court, I'll give you a topic,

and then we can each sort of argue for one of the, one or the other. First up, wings. Drums or flats? Oh boy. I'm a drums man. Wow. I'm a flats gal.

Oh my God. Yeah, I'm, I'm all, I'm all about, I'm all about the second dimension here. I'm flats all the way. Yeah. Give me flats. Really? I like it.

I like that. I like, yeah, hey, I like to work, to work that, that meat out of there. I think just that it's a better distribution of sauce and skin. Drums are just, more succulent. Drums are better. Yeah, more succulent for sure.

Drums to me are, get the better fry. I know that there can be some fatty parts to drums sometimes, but I, I love a drum easier to eat. Definitely easier to eat. Than the flats. Yeah. The, the, the flats, I'm, I'm, I'm always saving my drums for last.

I'm a drums man. And I know there's like some people who are like, I'm like a true wing professional and flats are better. Shut up, you dork. Just shut up. You need to shut up your door. Are you saying, are you calling us dorks? Clearly a passive aggressive slight at the two of us.

No, not you guys, but there are certain, there are certain idiots who are like, meh, like flat, you fucking stupid. No, hold on a second. I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm not saying, I'm saying that like the people who are like, I'm like a wing aficionado. And actually like the meat is actually better in the flat.

And I'm like, shut up. The meat is good in both wings. We like, we like, we like both wings. Oh, you guys are like better in the flat. It does, it does sound like you're going after exactly what they said. All right. Well, you know what? Shut up, you dork.

Both of you. I think I get what you're saying. This is ridiculous. It's, it's like the IPA snob, right? It's like the, it's like the beer guy who's like real, but they're, but for wings. Cause I don't order all flats. I get, give me, give me drums and flats.

Like, I don't, I, you know, I like them both, but I think I prefer flats. I mean, I like them both too. Give me a mix. Give me a mix of both. I want both. I'm fine with the mix too. I don't, but if I'm going to choose like when they all like plop down in front of me,

I choose the flats first. And I think you can get most of the meat off of a flat one, but not off of a drumstick. Sometimes it's like, you know, there's always like something at the top. Sure. A waddle. You know, I like to be cleaned at all. Occasionally a waddle gets stuck to the, to the top of the drum.

Um, I, I, when I, when I go to ye rustic wigs, Lily, have you ever read ye rustic? Great wings. Great wings. Great wings. We can agree on that. Give me, give me, give me those drumsticks. I like the drumsticks.

Nice fry to them. I like the flats too. I'm not anti-flat, but you guys are, you guys are flatters. You guys are flat. You're in the flat. The, the, you'd, you'd love it if it was a flat earth. I also do believe that the earth is flat. Yeah.

Separately. Oh wow. Is this a crossover for a lot of people who love the flats? So far I'm pro Jared. I'm pro Trump and I'm pro flat earth. That's my vibe on the podcast today. That's what happens when you come on dough boys. That's what happens.

Um, I, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not anti-flat. But I go, I go drum. So there we go. We, a different opinion. Maybe people who like drums love, uh, subway breakfast. What, what the hell? Uh-oh. What the hell did he just do?

Did Wags disappear? Oh no, here he is. There he is. My, I pulled, I got a, I got a cable, uh, that got loose. I had to reattach the cable and then I had to reboot my audio engine. We heard a little do do do do. And then it sounded like a magic noise. And you had also like gone between your legs.

So it kind of looked like you disappeared. Yeah. It was the suck of sound. All right. I had to get the, I had to get the, your little USB reconnect. That's what was going on. Okay. All right.

All right. Next up, next topic. Next topic. We're back. Tortillas, flour or corn. I'll weigh in immediately. Corn all the way. Wow.

Okay. Flour for me. Lily, now we're talking. There we go. Flour, flour all the way, baby. I love it. I'm, I'm flour. I'm a flour.

Oh, flour, flour power. I love, I like corn for sure. Like on a traditional taco, I'm all about, I like corn, but flour. I also, I mean, I think I just like more things on a flour tortilla to be honest. They just like fajitas. I'm always getting a flour. They're so nice and soft. It's like a little cloud.

Yeah. Wiger's corny ass loves corn, of course. Corn tortilla. No, I like corn. Look, I'm fine with a flour tortilla, but obviously you get there. The, the advantage of the flour tortillas, it can be bigger, right? Like you can make, like it's better for a quesadilla or a burrito, something that's a little bit more substantial.

But like, if I'm getting tacos, I mean, I'm not gonna get, I'm gonna get a soft taco on a fucking flour tortilla. Give me that, give me that, give me that corn tortilla. And here's the other thing. You go to a taqueria that like makes them fresh. Like you get like handmade, like, you know, like a corn tortillas, like they've been made in-house. It's fucking unbelievable.

Now, sometimes the, the supermarket, you know, corn TTC you'll get, or like even like a corn tortilla, you'll get out of a plastic bag from like a taco truck, aren't necessarily the highest quality. And I think that's maybe, you know, what you're more likely to encounter. But if you ever rent a fresh corn tortillas, I mean, that's the fucking shit. That's the best.

I agree with that. I like a hard shell corn tortilla too, if you're, if you're ever making some tacos for dinner. But, um, sure, a fresh corn tortilla, the best. I've been down to Mexico walks. Have you been down there? I know. You've never been down there?

Have you been down there? I went down to Mexico for, when I was in Boy Scouts, for the International Campery. Oh my god. Well, the Campery, that sounds fun. The Campery? International Campery, yeah. The Campery.

There's Camperies we'd have. Camperies are like four times a year, and then we'd have the Jamboree. Was once a year, and that's a big thing. I never went to the Jamboree, but I went to an International Campery. I thought like Campery was like, hey, it's like a Jamboree, but for, like Boy Scouts,

but you just did a Jamboree as well. The Jamboree is never there. It's like a National Jamboree. My older brother, Nate, went to the National Jamboree. And that's the one where like the president will speak. It's like a big like Boy Scout, you know, gathering. It's like, it's like they're, they're gathering at the juggalos or whatever.

It's like the big annual con for Boy Scouts. The president also speaks at the gathering of the juggalos, correct? Yeah, he'll show up. That's awesome. When's the juggalo one? Are you going to that one too? I think it's in the spring.

Yeah, probably go. We should do a Dough Boys at the gathering of the juggalos. Yes. I hope you all enjoy your Shasta Cola. That's, that's George W. Bush at the, at the gathering of the juggalos. Fucking idiot said Shasta. We drink Fago here.

Fuck, what is it? Fucking moron. Oh, Fago. Oh my God. Throw shoes at him. Shaggy Too Dope comes up. Stop the madness. I was going to say the juggalos are, are peaceful people.

I don't even, I don't know if they'd even throw shoes at George W. Bush. Maybe they would. Anyways. Shout out to the juggalos. Always interesting to hear a new weird fucking Boy Scout thing that you did. How old were you when you did the camperee?

I probably like 12 or 13, definitely in middle school. I remember it was like, we went down that and the, the Mexican Boy Scouts just seemed way cooler and way more fun. Cause they were like, they, like, like we had, you know, they, they just like our activities sort of like, we're going to build a fire and their activities were like,

like, uh, you know, we're all going to like fucking run around and fight each other. It was like, it was like, we had one of the things was like this thing called Scorpion. And it was just like, chaotic. And I remember it was all like, it was all the Scouts were holding the back of each other's pants.

And then it was a thing. And so we were like basically forming a human chain. And then the, the, the thing was you wanted to try to whip around the back. You could only like attack from the tail of the scorpion. And so you want, you were trying to whip around the last scout, the last scout to like fucking knock over the other Scouts.

And I was like, this is, this is so much more fun. Tossing Scouts around. Yeah. This is like so much more fun than like tying knots. Scouts were always getting tossed around. And there was one Canadian scout, like literally one boy scout from Canada came to the international Campery.

Everyone else and down in Tijuana it was, it was like, like, you know, 50, 50 American and Mexican. Fucking King nerd of Canada. We should get him on the podcast. He's been on the podcast. I am the nerdiest man from Canada. Did he announce that to you guys? All right.

Next question. Next question. Lobster roll, hot or cold? Whoa. Oh my God. Emma, you got to chime in here. I feel like, I feel like hot to me, but if I'm going to go for it.

This, this is tricky because. Hot bun, cold lobster. Yeah. Isn't that kind of, it's always too temperature. I don't even love lobster that much, but that's, I know the rule, you toast a bun, cold lobster salad. This is the New England way is a hot dog bun, basically grilled in butter and then you put the

cold lobster salad in there and that is great. I do also love a hot lobster roll with hot lobster and drawn butter. I mean, like you can also put those in a hot dog bun that's grilled. So I like, and also like New England, like, you know, lobster and butter is a New England thing anyways. Is it weird that I think you do a different one

for lunch than you do for dinner? Like I want to grill. Not at all. Bun with cold lobster salad for lunch, but like maybe I want the hot lobster roll for dinner. For dinner. I agree with that. I agree with that.

I never want a cold dinner. That's, that's kind of a great point. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah, this, because I'm like, am I going to get in trouble if I say the hot? Definitely. Because it's New England.

I think, I think I get to go, I think I get to go cold just for that reason with the hot bun. I'm realizing that when I said hot, because I don't think I've ever had like a full hot one all around. I've had just like, when I said hot, I was thinking about the, like the hot, like hot dog bun. Yeah. But every time I've had it, the lobster's been

cold because I've like, it's a real mix of temperatures. Yes. You know what I don't like is a cold, like something you get like store bought that's like in a big cold bun, like the buns been in the fridge with the lobster. Don't like that. No.

That's not, don't give me that. Mm-mm. One of the best lobster rolls I had in my life, and I've not eaten a lot of them. Another thing I had really growing up at all was the lobster roll, Mitch, we got at DeAngelo when we reviewed it. And that was a fucking, that wildly exceeded my

expectations. I could not believe how good a chain lobster roll was, but that was really, really good. And that one I believe was cold. Yes, Mitch. That was a cold execution. I think it was a cold execution, but also was it a hot bun?

I don't know if it was a hot bun or not. I don't remember. I remember it specifically, I just remember it was great. And I think it was, I think the lobster at least was cold. But I am going to declare a hung jury, because I think both work.

And I think we're also all not kind of not sure what the right answer is. So a hung jury. I don't know if it should be a hung jury for dough boys, but. Why is the quote pinhead? How about we just say flaccid jury? All right.

Flaccid jury. All right. Okay. Flaccid jury. To quote pinhead wags, I have such sights to show you if you come to New England, I'll fucking show you some lobster rolls that will knock your socks off.

The equivalent of subway breakfast for me. Let's go. I'm fucking in. I'd love to go. Emma, don't you, there's, there's some good, there's some fucking good ass pops. You gotta go in the summer though and the shacks are open.

Okay, I'm in. Lobster shack, baby. All right. Let's go to the next one. I suck. Flamshack games are probably easier. Yes, they do. They have a song Rock Lobster too.

Yes, they do. I know. I fucked up. I know I fucked up in a lot of ways. Well, you could have gone shack lobster. Shack lobster. That's what I should have said. No, I think what you said was great.

Next up. French fry condiment. You're going to dip some fries. Ketchup or mayo. Oh, this is easy for me. If it's, wait, does mayo mean Olay Olies? I think yeah, I think Olies are, it's like a fancy word for mayo.

Well, then now this is trickier. Come on. Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah, see, this is, this is tricky. Because I think it also sort of depends on the fry that I'm having. Great.

Lily, I 100% agree. Great fucking point. True. You know what? 100% true. Because of that, I'm going ketchup. For that reason, I choose ketchup. Yeah, me too.

Because I think usually, like no matter what, I don't know. Yeah, I think I would, ketchup's just like you're typically, you're going to like it, but Olay Olay may be a little riskier at certain places. I'll say this too, as someone who loves McDonald's, like if you get McDonald's fries, Wendy's fries, you want to dip that in ketchup. I don't want to dip that in from Olay bullshit.

Give me the ketchup. Yeah. Nellie is kind of a mayo absolutist, which I respect. I will also say that like I've done things, I know what you're saying, Mitch, but like I've gotten like Arby's curly fries and dip them in mayo and be like, fuck, this is good. It's honestly, it really works.

But I think my real answer would be off the board, which would be ranch. Like if I'm picking one thing to put on fries, but with these two options, I think the jury is unanimous for going ketchup. Wow, I love it. I like mayo, but I do like ketchup probably more. I was going to say, you're the mayo kid.

I'm surprised that you, your mayo man didn't choose mayo, so. I like mayo a lot, but as like a default fry dipper, I don't know if it's mayo. I don't know if it has it. All right, let's do one or two more. Next up, bread. Keep in fridge or in pantry.

Wow. Okay, this is something I think about with butter too. I think I'd like to be a person who doesn't put these things in the fridge, but I do put them in the fridge because my family always put them in the fridge. But like, if I got a bad get, I'm not going to put that in the fridge.

But if I got some kind of store bought bread, I usually do because I'm like, it'll keep longer hypothetically. I usually put my store like a loaf of sliced bread, sandwich bread in the fridge. We were talking toast earlier. I usually put that in the fridge, but I prefer it not being in the fridge.

It's just that I'm not going to eat it fast enough. That's like you're saying, like you want to preserve it longer. That's the issue. So like, so of course I'm going to owe it. And I know some people who put, get this wigs. I know some people who freeze bread. My family did that growing up.

Yeah. Yeah. They'll freeze bread, just take out a slice and cook it up. But I, I would prefer non-refrigerated bread. Lily, my mom does butter outside of the fridge. And like not only that, but I'm like, this butter has been like out. How long has this been out?

Like it would be like, was this like from the last time I came home? Like in my mind, I'm like, this is like been out for over a month or something. It covered, of course, covered. But my family would like, like, you know, they would keep the butter outside the fridge. My mom doesn't refrigerate ketchup.

She's like, there's so many preservatives. So like yell at me when I'm like, because I'll get the ketchup. She'll make, she'll make me scrambled eggs. And I'll be like, I'm going to grab ketchup. And I'll be like, the ketchup is like brown. And she's like, it's fine. And I'm like, this is like three years old.

And it's been outside of the fridge for like three years. And she doesn't fucking care. And also at one point, we don't do this anymore. But at one point, my, like for a small stretch, we would keep pizza in the oven. Do you know families that did this? We did this for a small stretch. Wow.

Which we would put it in the oven and then like usually it would be eaten the next day. But a lot of people are like, you can't do that. And I'm like, it was fine too. I think that's okay. But like if it's more than a day, you can't do that really. But I'm going to go, I'm going to deviate from the consensus and say pantry, even though I like, I am a fridge guy.

A lot of the times. I prefer pantry guys. I think I prefer in the pantry. I have a hard time using it fast enough. But if I get like a quality loaf, that's staying in the pantry. I'm a pantry person too. I think this is the question of like,

is this an ideal world? I would keep it all out on the counter and it would be fresh and delicious all the time. Then yes, but just cause I'm not going to eat it. But we don't live in an ideal world. We don't live in a perfect world now. But then what's the question? What's at the core of the question?

Is this just like what I would prefer to eat? Then it would be a counter bread. Yeah, counter same. Yeah. Lily, Lily makes a good point. Why is, what the fuck is going on here? What's meant to be general? That's why the judiciary is like such an esteemed profession

that requires a lot of training. Is that it's just like it's, there's a lot of thought goes into these questions. So like, oh wait, what actually is the core principle here? What are we deciding? Well, so are we saying what would taste best? Counter bread, period. Counter bread, counter agreed.

But if we're saying what do we do generally? Maybe fridge. I think fridge still takes it because I think that was both of your instincts. Can I just say this about butter? Hold on a second, but we, it sounds like you agree with us. It sounds like you put it in the fridge too to keep it longer. I thought about like, like, like,

what am I doing with my current loaf? And I have my loaf right now is in the pantry. Stop saying loaf. Okay. Next loaf, next loaf I get is going in the pantry. Stop saying what you're doing with your loaf. It just sounds strange. Took a whole load of that squeezable.

I know I'm putting my loaf on the counter. Wags is putting loafs on counters and I'm squeezing, getting a whole load of shit in my mouth. Load of shit, Jesus. Load of whatever. Well, I know, I fucked up. Wags, what do you, what do you do with butter? I want to hear what you do with butter.

This is what I wanted to say. Butter dish. That's the whole thing. Get a fucking butter dish. You get a cool looking butter dish. We have this, this butter dish has got a little cow on it. It's fucking great. And the, the, the room temp butter, it's so spreadable.

You never have to worry about like, ah, fuck, I'm going to tear my bread. It's, it's perfect. And here's the other thing I'll say. Tear your loaf. I've started cooking, what's that? Tear your loaf. Tear, yeah, tear your loaf.

You're not going to tear your loaf. Yeah. Yeah. Your slice of loaf is going to be fine with that room temp butter. And I think it's, I think it's, it's great for, you know, it's, it's, it's great for, because the other thing is like, it's not like I just have to spread that on, um, on, it's like, oh, I have to have a hot bread in order for this to work. It's like, oh, I can have a room temp bread.

Because somebody just bread with butter is great. The other thing I'll say is that I've been cooking more with ghee recently. And, uh, which is, you know, clarified butter. And that's fucking great because I don't have to worry about it burning if I'm making myself some eggs. So that's the other thing I'll say. Keep your butter on the, uh, butter on the counter. Keep it in a dish and, uh, and maybe give you,

if you're someone who cooks with butter, maybe I pick up some ghee or make some ghee. Um, anyway, uh, that was food court. Just like a restaurant value feedback, let's open the feedback. And we have a voice mail today. So, uh, we'll open up the audio feedback. Here we go. I wonder what the last question was that you didn't tell us. What'd you say?

I was wondering what the last question was in food court that you didn't tell us. There's a bunch more questions. We don't have enough time. Oh, all right. Fine. Fine. All right. Let's just.

We didn't even get to half the questions. We had so many fucking options. Why are you mad at me? We all had so many fucking opinions. It took so fucking long. Yeah. Now we need to make it through more. You're talking about how you tore your loaf.

We, it was not my fault. It's not all on me. Hey, dull boys. Emma and you song. This is Brian from Connecticut. My question is what is your average Thanksgiving game plan look like? How does the day progress? For me, I wake up at nine.

We watched the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade every year together with my parents. Then at around 12, we all go outside and throw the football around for a little bit. And then at one o'clock, the annual start of Thanksgiving drink is eggnog with a rum in it. And that's like the beginning of the big feast. Wow. So just wondering what are your traditions? What does your day usually look like? Happy Thanksgiving.

Oh, that's cute. Very rigid routine. Yeah, it sounds fun. It's a nice routine. Yeah. Lily, any, anything you do for a typical Thanksgiving? Do you have a game plan? My, I feel like every year for me, Thanksgiving is different.

I don't really have like a study, like, you know, I, like my family, like it's not like we're together, everything's giving. So, but I do think I, I am obsessed with, I guess not stuffing, but dressing. Because if you don't put it in the bird, what is like, so it's called dressing. When you make like a stuffing outside of the bird. Another bread, fun, you know, condiment or not condiment on the side. So I usually make sure that I get to make that at some point in the day. And I definitely start drinking probably around 1130, give or take.

AM. Wow. Well, you know, like one, like a, like a, whatever you call it, a Bloody Mary or something like that. Oh, sure. Not that I'm like consistently, I would be out by 4pm if I had it every hour from there on out, but something like that. Yeah. Yeah.

I didn't think about having a brunchy cocktail on Thanksgiving, but that seems like, that seems like a fun thing to do. Give yourself a Bloody Mary. Why not? Yeah. I'm like you, I don't have any sort of set routine. It's, it's, I feel like it's different every year. I don't have any traditions.

I don't know if there's something like, oh, I got to do this. I'm amazed by the families that go out and like play touch football or whatever. Cause I think that's like such like a thing and I'll see that in movies. I was like, like, what the fuck's going on? Like what? You're all going to the fucking park to like play football? The fuck you doing? Yeah.

And everyone has good genres. Like that's like, I think you do that every year. Yeah. Yeah. What is happening? This sounds like what, what Brian is doing that too. He's like, they go out, they go, they all go outside and throw the football around a little bit.

It's like, I can't imagine doing that with my extended family. I definitely do not do that. I mean, my cousins are going to fucking throw the football back and forth. Well, my uncles yell at each other. What the fuck are we talking about? It would be funny to see your family laugh when you threw the football though. Oh, come on. I got great form.

I'm like Aaron Rogers out there. Well, for other reasons, you're like Aaron Rogers out there. You're not vaccinated. That's right. Stuff changes your DNA. Here's my, I'll tell you the two different versions because there's friends giving as we all know and there's Thanksgiving as we all know. And for a lot of LA transplants, the friends giving, I would stick around here and then

no matter what on both, on both coasts, the night before Thanksgiving, just a huge drinking night, I think still. So always getting kind of a little, a little, a little, a little fucked up the night that on Thanksgiving Eve and by being a little bit wise. And then, you know, a lot of times we do gabris's power hour the night before. If I'm back in Quincy, I'll, I'll, I'll, I know it's coming. And then if I'm, if I'm back in Quincy, I'll do, I'll, I'll use to go to Malachy's nightmare where I was used to, they used to make me do the lineup, which I did last

night with the sloppy boys likes. They would like, want me to ask me to do the lineup spoiler alert for the sloppy ways I was so coming. And then thanks to Christmas day Thanksgiving day in Massachusetts, we go to my God parents house and I would never wake up for this North Quincy plays Quincy high. That's like the big football game. And I'll never wake up in time for that because I'll be hung over. I'll like never go to it, but I played in it in high school and then, and I didn't, I

mean, I've gotten to one play and I got pushed back like 30 yards and that was it at the end of the game. But, um, then I go to my God parents house around like two 30 or three and then watch football and, and eat and drink and then sometimes go out that night. It depends. The night of Thanksgiving, I feel like it's a more low key night. Now, if I'm in LA and I do like a friend's giving a lot of the times, like I've gone to molasses boys house.

I've eaten at a Armen's house before. And then a lot of the times that will be paired up with a movie. We go see it like a movie. I don't know if you ever joined us. Why is we would like, I remember we saw some of the Harry Potter movies on Thanksgiving day and stuff like that. But yeah, I never think about going to the movie. No, I wasn't.

I did that. I should be. No, I didn't think about, I never thought about going to a movie, the movies on Thanksgiving, but that seems like a fun thing to do. Yeah. I'm realizing a thing I've done before. I think we've done movie release day, by the way, like that Wednesday, they release a lot of movies.

Yeah. If anyone wants to check out a spirited on Thanksgiving, it's in theaters this Friday, November 11th with a Lily Sullivan. I was going to say that the one thing we've done before is like go on a fucking turkey trot in the morning. I actually do like that because I like going to like an organized run. They're just usually too early for me because I hate like running at like 6 a.m. But turkey trots usually start a little later.

They're a little bit more casual and it's a shorter distance. It's like a 5k or 10k or sometimes even shorter. And so it's like, it's not like committing to a half marathon. So I didn't know before we did turkey trot and like would go to like a diner for like a breakfast for a good breakfast. That was fun. So yeah, that was that was one thing I liked. There's no scout brie on Thanksgiving or scouts giving or anything like that.

No, there's never really like a big Thanksgiving thing. I actually don't remember holiday stuff with Boy Scouts at all. Yeah, there wasn't like a Christmas patch or anything. I think it was just like too cold to camp. So usually there was less of that. It's coming up just a couple of weeks. Wags. I'm going back to Massachusetts, I think.

No, shut up. You're going to go back to Quincy, Massachusetts for Thanksgiving? I probably spent more Thanksgiving in LA than I have in Quincy and the since I've been out here. There's, I mean, I'm almost sure of it. Yeah, I'll be excited to go back. Yeah, I do think I was thinking about that. Like, I think on Thanksgiving, I also always take a walk. Like there's always, oh, that's good.

Everyone's like, we all got to be outside and that fall air. Yeah, it's fall. It's nice and cool. Yeah, I love that. That's great. Sweater weather, you know. Sweater weather is the best. Walk off the meal too.

It's great. Yep. I've heard of the folks who like the wacky tobacco you indulge in the kind kind. They like, hey, it's time to go for a walk because it was my family. I can't smoke reefer in front of my parents. But maybe two cousins, me and my cousins can get high. Yeah. You and your cousin, maybe your favorite cousin you walk out.

Hey, maybe you got to crush on one of your cousins. You walk out there and you go for a romantic walk. It's a Quincy special. You and your cousin are just squeezing those squeezables into each other's mouths. We know how your day starts too, by the way. Yeah. You told at the beginning, the cutting through a turkey's waddle, decapitating the turkey.

That story you told earlier in the episode. Fucking gnarly. Anyways, I'm looking forward to it. It's coming, Wags. I'm excited. I like the holidays. I'm a holiday man. Me too.

I like them too. Yeah. Wags doesn't like them really. You don't like them? No, they don't like them. I just don't, I like, the thing I like the most is not, is having time off of work. That's like the thing about the holidays I like is not having to do my job. You like having time off of dough boys and get played?

Is that exactly what you're talking about? Getting time off from your podcast? I have two podcasts. I need to fucking... Throw the fuck up. All right. You have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants? Yeah, sorry.

Workaholic Mitch over here. Famous. I'm not saying like, oh, thank God. Thanksgiving break. I finally get to take some time off of dough boys. It's been wild. You fucking, it's pathetic. Pathetic.

Fine. Let's record on Thanksgiving then. If you desperately want to do the podcast. Let's fucking schedule a Christmas Eve record. Oh, that will show me. All right. Subway breakfast on Thanksgiving. Yeah.

Subway breakfast Thanksgiving. Fine. Let's do it. Thanksgiving day. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at doughboyspodcast.com or leave us a voicemail at 830. Go to that's 830-4636-844 to get the dough boys double our weekly bonus episode. Join the Golden Earth Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash doughboys.

And check out dough boys snack pack on Spotify. Hang out and chat with us every Thursday at 830 p.m. Eastern. Listen live on Spotify. Our guest today, Lily Sullivan. Wow. Thank you so much for being here. Tell us about the movie and tell us about anything else you would like to plug. Um, yeah.

The movie is, uh, with Will Ferrell and Ryan Reynolds are in it. My best friends. Wow. And, um, and I have a podcast, I have two podcasts. I have Going Deep on Stitcher and I have, um, this book changed my life on CBB Present or CBB World. Um, and, um, I'm just like you guys, I'm, I'm totally overworked. I'm exhausted. I can't wait for the holidays.

Um, and yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm a tourist. Wow. And thank you for having me. This has been very fun to argue with you guys. What a delight. What a delight. What a great, what a great, what a great first time guest, um, being on the show,

though you're completely wrong about the, about subway breakfast. Um, and your score should be stricken from the record. Anyways, thank you for being here. Thank you. Thank you. That'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys. Till next time for the Spoon Bad Mike Mitchell. I'm Nick Weigher.

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