Doughboys - The Ate-TL: Krystal with Sam Richardson
Episode Date: October 24, 2019We continue Octdoughberfest 2019, The Ate-TL continues as we're joined by actor and comedian Sam Richardson (Veep, Detroiters) to review an Atlanta-based chain serving sliders and hot dogs, Krystal. P...lus, a peachy edition of The Wiger Challenge.Sources for this week’s intro include:Lacon, Or, Many Things in a Few Words: Addressed to Those who Think by Charles Caleb Coltonhttps://books.google.com/books?id=6AclAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA114#v=snippet&q=imitation&f=falseOscar Wilde Quotes from Goodreadshttps://www.goodreads.com/quotes/558084-imitation-is-the-sincerest-form-of-flattery-that-mediocrity-canTennessee Encyclopedia: Krystal Company by Ned L. Irwinhttps://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/krystal-company/Krystal dishes up nostalgia by Jason M. Reynoldshttps://web.archive.org/web/20070829150515/http://www.timesfreepress.com/absolutenm/templates/business-toplocal.aspx?articleid=15249&zoneid=169Krystal moving headquarters to Atlanta by Ellis Smithhttps://www.timesfreepress.com/news/news/story/2012/oct/03/krystal-moving-atlanta-chattanooga/89532/The Krystal Websitehttps://krystal.com/about-us/Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery is often misattributed to Oscar Wilde, much
like the quotes on inspirational Marilyn Monroe memes.
But its actual author is the little-known English writer Charles Caleb Colton, and
his quip remains a frequently cited idiom in the Western world.
And one would certainly be justified in invoking it, in reference to a slider chain founded
in Chattanooga, Tennessee in 1932 by Glenn Sherrill and his business parter, Roddy Davenport,
Jr.
Sherrill was inspired to open their first restaurant after a scouting mission to the
Chicago outlets of Midwest stalwart White Castle.
Observing their success and knowing his own southern market was underserved in terms of
quick-service burger shacks, Sherrill and Davenport, for lack of a better term, ripped off White
Castle, making the backbone of their menu the familiar sliders with thin square patties,
though with one small alteration, the addition of mustard.
Originality aside, the formula was a success for a reason, and Sherrill and Davenport's
eatery became the dominant slider chain in the American South.
Davenport's wife, Mary McGee, came up with its name meant to reference the pristine
cleanliness of its kitchens and dining rooms, which at one point may have been true.
As its geographical reach expanded, so did the menu with the addition of slider-sized
chicken sandwiches and miniature hot dogs called pups, as well as sweet treats and later
breakfast.
Today, the map of White Castle restaurants and the 360 locations of its southern mustard-enhanced
clone is neatly split on the north-south sides of the Mason-Dixon line, much like the Carl's
Jr. Hardee's divide that separates the western from the eastern United States.
And while their product may be the Pepsi of sliders, ironic for our company headquartered
in Atlanta, the home of Coca-Cola, it's also the oldest burger chain in the South.
But does its meat beat its big brothers?
We return to Oscar Wilde.
While he may not have originated the phrase coined by Charles Caleb Colton, he did add
a tag to it, a second half of the witticism that's generally omitted.
It reads in full, quote,
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.
This week on Doughboys, October Fest 2019, the Doughboys present the 8TL Continues as
we review Crystal.
Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants.
I'm Nick Weigar, alongside my co-host, Boston Celtic Jason Atom, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell.
It's fine.
That was from Jim in Albany.
PS, I have Mitch's shirt from the Boston show.
Do you know what that's about?
Oh, no, I don't know.
Did you throw your shirt into the audience?
Like a Tom Jones move?
No, you were there for the show.
What does that mean?
I have Mitch's shirt from the Boston show.
Now it sounds like a hostage-taking thing.
How do you email him back and say, what do you mean?
Okay, should I do it now?
I mean, it's a huge waste of time to hear you typing.
RoastSpoonMan at gmail.com if you have an insult or a cryptic remark about having something
of one of ours.
I chose that because as of this episode's release, the NBA season is upon us.
That's right, the NBA season has started.
How are you feeling about your Celtics?
I feel good about them.
Yeah?
How do you feel about your Lakers?
I feel pretty good.
God, I hate the Lakers.
What do I mean?
Are we the low post now?
I think that, yeah, we're the low post now.
I think the Clippers are going to be maybe better than the Lakers.
What do you think about that?
We'll see.
I think the L.A. team is the Clippers.
It'll be an interesting, interesting rivalry.
All right.
How do you howl to Spoon Nation?
Ah, embarrassing in front of the guest.
I maybe earned his respect over the last couple of, maybe not.
Here's a little drop.
A little worm coward man.
A worm coward man?
Yeah, you're a worm coward man.
You heard me.
You're a fucking little worm.
You're hiding the dirt.
And I dig up that dirt and I say, look me in the face, you fucking worm.
Again, I'm lost in your metaphor.
I don't understand.
I live like a worm.
You're a coward.
How am I a coward?
I don't know.
I love you.
That's a nice ending to that.
High Spoon Man attached my first drop.
I sprinkled a little horn section in for you and the double read.
That he did himself.
Thanks for so much enjoyment over the years.
Also, I had tickets to see you guys in Cleveland with my girlfriend.
But since you rescheduled,
Mugman is coming to the park across from my house and I'm scared.
Nangang.
Hashtag Connor.
No plugs.
All right.
Thanks Connor.
What?
I don't even remember that exchange.
When, when did that happen?
Was that recent?
I don't know.
Do you remember calling me a worm?
I mean, I, I, no, not really, but you are one.
I don't know.
I don't remember anything anymore.
This bug, it's, my brain is melted.
We're old.
I just have that coleslaw brain.
It's just like, it's just slush.
You're going to, it feels very much like one of those like a,
like a date line or something where you're,
you're going to have like slaw brain.
You're going to strangle me or something.
But not even know why I did it.
Not know why you do or not.
They're going to be like, you killed Mitch.
And then you're going to be like, I did.
And you're not going to remember killing me.
Who's Mitch?
Mitch, let's introduce our guest.
Hey, if you had slaw brain,
I'd be cracking your skull open right now.
I think you go near a vegetable.
Vegetable covered in mayo.
That's true.
An actor, our guest is an actor and comedian from Veep,
Detroiters and the upcoming film,
Ghost Draft with our own Mike Mitchell.
Sam Richardson is here.
Hi, Sam.
Hi, how you doing?
Very exciting to have, have Sam here.
Very excited to be here.
What a thrill.
And a plus guess.
A lot of times our guests are complete trash.
Stop throwing our other guests under the bus.
No, I require it.
Tell me how lonely they are
and how amazing and magnificent I am.
Oh, Nick, we've never, we've never addressed this before.
Our intro music by Mike Cassidy
has been changed for the ATL episode.
That's right.
It's like we get a little chopped and screwed.
Ooh, sounds like how you like your apples.
Nick, Nick has fucked an apple before.
Come on.
I had a suspicion.
I got one of those like fucking apple walks
from the hips.
You watch American Pie and you're like,
Jason Biggs, all these unnecessary steps.
Yeah, I know.
Go with my friend.
Get out the middle, man.
Go to the source material.
Core it and then decore it.
Oh, God.
What a freak you are, Nick.
We should, so we should mention once again
that we are recording in your hotel room.
Mm-hmm.
And we are in Atlanta.
The ATL continues.
Sam, you've been spending some time in Atlanta.
You're working on the same film with Mitch.
How do you like the food here?
And have you spent much time here previously?
I love the food here.
I was here last year for a show I did with Adam Pally
called Champagne Hill.
That was fun.
And I was here for a couple of years before that.
I've been out here a lot.
I was here for a movie called Office Christmas Party
for a movie called Super Intelligence
and here for a bunch, a bunch.
So I know the ATL pretty well.
This is Georgia, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I know Atlanta very well.
But the food, honestly,
like, I always say mm is exactly the word for it.
And I'm always like, all right, well, I'm going to come out
and do this movie and I'm going to,
or I'm going to come do this show.
I'm going to make sure I have a TV star, a movie star body.
And I'm like, well, I guess I'll just have
a little bit of bread here, steak,
and go to the optimist and...
Oh, man, the roles.
The roles.
We went to the optimist together,
but you had been previously.
I had been previously, but it was on a prefix menu.
Oh, okay.
So I was like, oh, I'm pretty good.
But then when I was able to take the reins myself,
good gracious.
It was really, really good.
Tell me about the optimist.
What is it?
It's seafood.
It's basically okay.
It's a seafood American...
seafood American restaurant.
Yeah, kind of like a...
God, I don't know the word for it.
Kind of a new wavy sort of like a...
Got it.
Like a nice, like a fancy seafood restaurant.
But also not like snooty.
Any memorable dishes there?
Many.
So many.
So many.
The bread, first off, is right off the bat.
They hit you with that bread.
And it's...
The best bread.
The best bread.
Wait, what makes this bread so dynamite?
It's a...
Also, why don't you become a fucking investigative journal?
I'm curious.
I don't know.
No, I can answer these questions.
Don't worry.
Thanks, Mitch.
But I think I got this.
He doesn't believe that we went to the optimist.
I know.
He wants details.
The roles were like...
Imagine it was like crispy on the outside,
but then 50% butter on the inside.
Yes.
Yeah.
And they're like kind of like pretzels.
They're kind of like pretzel roles.
But like a light pretzel role.
Yes, a light pretzel role.
And I mean, I can hear your mouths watering from the other end of this podcast.
And it's true.
That's the right response.
That's what we did.
People are commuting and working their office jobs and drooling all over the place.
They sure are.
Just sorry about that accident.
Sorry about your keyboards and your steering wheels.
Sorry about that.
But just get to the optimist and try that bread.
You'll know what I'm talking about.
I had a lobster roll and it was very good.
I did too.
Yep.
I'm wondering now if that's like a thing because there's this restaurant in LA,
The Angler, which is fantastic.
And it's originally from San Francisco, but it's also a seafood concept.
And they have just amazing roles there as well.
I wonder if that's like a thing of like some seafood restaurants are like,
we got to have our roles right.
Well, it must be.
It must be just the butter, the butter.
I think because butter is used so much in seafood,
you probably like learn a good butter bread ratio.
Right.
If you're running a seafood restaurant.
I want to go back for the roles, which is crazy.
Yeah.
I mean, like the other food was fantastic too.
We had some hush puppies that were great.
We had two different kinds of shrimp that were terrific.
Yes.
Oh, wow.
There was a lobster.
It was a crab.
Sea crab soup.
Sea crab soup.
Yep.
And it was fantastic.
Yeah.
It just everything was great.
Everything was great.
Everything was good.
I lost my mind in there.
Wow.
And guess what, Nick?
What?
You can't go.
I'm not allowed.
I mean, too much of a pessimist.
You could go tonight.
Tell me away the door.
You could go tonight if you want to.
Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, we'll see.
So beyond Atlanta, you're originally from Detroit.
You grew up in that area.
Yes, I did.
I want to talk a little bit about Detroit style pizza.
You can talk in general about Detroit, but this is a thing
we've discussed with some previous guests.
I told Nick about buddies.
You didn't even know.
Yeah, I know.
I've never been to buddies.
I'm interested in buddies.
It's the best pizza on earth.
Wow.
I like that.
I like that you have that strong.
I like that you were like buddies.
Like you were like Detroit pizza better than all Chicago pizza.
I agree.
I mean, I agree with myself.
I guess I'm saying.
I mean, it's highly controversial.
Everything I say is highly controversial because I'm a shock,
Jack.
So are we women are funny.
My turn.
Come.
Whoa.
Is this C.O.M.E.
C.O.M.E.
Yeah, but Chicago pizzas trash.
There it is.
Wow.
It really is.
It's just lasagna.
Right.
Chicago pizzas lasagna and it's like a mess to eat.
But it's, it's not pizza.
I, I love all pizza and I do.
I agree with you that it is just a separate.
If I want pizza and I get a deep dish, I'm like, well, that's like,
that's a monkey's paw wish.
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
That's not like, if I was like, I wish for pizza.
And then I was like, here's a deep dish Chicago pizza.
I'm like, okay.
You didn't.
Like what?
You kind of get my more wishes.
Trick the genie.
Right.
Pequads.
I love it.
I love Pequads.
It was very good.
That was where we went in Chicago.
Yeah.
One of the spots we went to.
I mean, it was very good.
It's just, it is, it's, it's, it's different.
I know that Chicago people get really upset about this when people
compare, but like it is, it is different.
Relax.
Chicagoans is a different thing.
And you know, you know, you're just being proud.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've, I've met some Chicago pizza skeptics from Chicago.
Some people are like, like, I grew up with Chicago pizza and it
sucks or like, I don't like, I am okay with it.
I've had some good Chicago pizzas, but it has always ruined my night
and then the subsequent day.
Yeah.
It's like a, it's a brutal meal to, to eat and digest.
It really is.
I mean, maybe I came in hot with the word trash, but I meant not good.
You know, it's a, I've, I've, I've enjoyed some Chicago
pizza.
I lived in Chicago for like five years.
Right.
You know, I've, I've, I've, I've enjoyed some loomal matis.
But buddies.
But buddies above.
Oh, it's the best pizza in the world.
So many pizza companies, huge pizza companies are from Detroit.
Yeah.
Little Caesars is the one I know about.
Little Caesars.
I do believe Domino's is originally like a.
Oh, the Michigan area.
Yeah.
Michigan area.
Yeah.
You know, so we know how to do pizza.
Like, and I'd say Little Caesars is like the best, like fast food pizza out
there.
Oh, well, I agree.
Hands down.
I think like, like in terms of, in terms of if we're talking about like, like, like
that sort of fast food, I mean, just like the, the hot and ready is just the fact that
it's hot and ready and it's so cheap.
The fact that you can feed a family for $5 is like pretty crazy.
Yep.
Feed a family or one fat man.
Why'd you look at me?
I was thinking of myself.
All right, good.
Yeah, you're fat.
He also whispered the word Mitch.
He put his hand over the microphone and said it.
Heard daggers into him.
I was uncomfortable.
I still felt I just had to say something.
I'm so sorry.
But Little Caesars is, it's, it's good.
And I think like, you know, it's kind of its own category.
I mean, it's kind of there with like, with like Costco or even 7-Eleven of just like,
it's this, it's a super cheap pizza.
Well, hey now.
I'm not saying it's, I'm saying in terms of price.
I'm not saying in terms of exactly that.
Yeah.
So the price, let the price not forget who the person, like if you have a president,
what am I doing already?
If you have a president who can also play basketball,
that doesn't put him in the category of basketball players.
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
You know what I mean?
He is still commander in chief.
I thought I always consider when I listen to my favorite basketball players,
Barack was one of my favorites.
You're right.
He's one of mine.
He's one of mine.
I found that analogy in the middle of it.
It works.
It does work.
I'm proud of it, actually.
You might have a president, Shaq, in a few years.
Who knows?
But you see me, see what I'm saying?
Like Shaq couldn't be a president.
Oh, right.
Because he wasn't born in the United States.
He was born on the planet Shaq.
Free healthcare.
Free healthcare.
Free healthcare for everyone.
Where I come from, every healthcare is not a good question.
You said Shaq couldn't be president, and I instinctively just said right.
But I didn't realize why.
You said right so quick.
Speaking of Shaq, there's a Papa John's nearby that just has a Shaq tag on it.
It says Shaquille O'Neal on it.
And the number we drove by it is like basically 555 Shaq.
I mean, that's not the right number, of course.
I used a movie number.
But Shaq is the last four digits of the phone number, which is amazing.
Because Shaq is like a proprietor now.
He basically got into...
And we were saying this.
It should be Papa Shaq's.
It should be Papa Shaq's.
And also, I think there was a brand rehab.
They were like, let's forget about the dude.
But then they put the dude in the commercial.
I was like, well, then you haven't forgotten about him completely.
You gotta get rid of John.
You gotta get rid of John.
He's still in the name of the company, and then the logo.
He's still such a big part of it.
Yeah, he's back there spitting them pizzas.
Get him out of there.
Papa Shaq, it's mine now.
It's right now.
Get rid of fucking...
You can't do it.
It's like if Jack from Jack in the Box had flown in the Lolita Express.
You can't just keep the company named Jack in the Box.
What do you know?
It's possible.
How many times did you see Jack from Jack in the Box in the Lolita Express?
It was me, Jack, the Burger King King, Matt Groening.
Did you massage his feet?
Yeah, I mean, I washed him first.
How many big-headed burger joint mascots are there?
Well, there's the Hamburglar and Mermic Cheese.
That's two in McDonald's alone.
Grimace is like whole...
I feel like his head is proportional to his large body.
Yeah, but maybe the whole thing is his head.
It could be.
Because there's no neck.
Yeah, I don't know what his anatomy is exactly.
Yeah, like what's the skeleton of him look like?
I feel for Grimace because I also have no neck.
Oftentimes you're purple, too.
It's blood issue.
Sam will just slap me on the side,
but the blood will start flowing right before a scene starts happening.
Weigar, I got the mental image of you sucking on Jack from Jack in the Box nose.
Jesus Christ.
On the Lolita Express.
Why would I say that?
Because it was in my mind.
Disgusting.
That's one reason.
Oh, shit. You sung.
Uh-oh.
What happened? What's happening?
Mitch is looking at his phone right now.
No, it's fine. It's fine.
It's practically looking at his phone.
It's got an amber alert.
It's fine.
The amber alert is coming from inside my room.
Oh, my God.
I kidnapped you sung.
Another one solved. Good job, guys.
No, it's fine.
There was a pie emergency for a minute there.
There's a pie coming.
There was a pie emergency.
A pie is coming to us and I and I was nervous that it was that it was here,
but it's not here.
It's a it's still a ways off.
Anyway, it's moving on.
That feels like back into it.
I can't.
A peach pie is coming.
Yes.
George.
Wait.
How did we get?
How did we get onto the thing of a of the mask?
Papa John should be published.
But but buddy's pizza.
Let's I'm curious a little bit because I've never had it.
And I never look at it.
I was going to throw it back at you.
Yeah.
Are some people not going to consider buddies pizza pizza?
Are they going to think that's too deep to be incorrect?
Yeah, I agree.
No, I agree with you.
I'm just I'm just throwing.
I think New York style pizza being a specific style of pizza so flat.
It's flat beyond pizza recognition.
You know what I mean?
Right?
So if that's the basis that you're basing on like what the width of
or the depth of pizza should be, you're automatically wrong.
And then you know what I mean?
I'll tell you there's angry podcast people who specifically don't like
that Chicago pizza is lasagna.
They hate when people say it's like lasagna.
It's lasagna.
Pizza that you have to eat with a fork is lasagna.
I love it.
I mean, you can't fold a pizza slice in half.
It's lasagna.
There's there's Chicagoans right now whose blood their blood is boiling as
they eat their pizza with a knife and fork.
By the way, that's that way.
It sounded like you were going into like a Jeff Fox worthy routine.
If you can't fold your pizza in half, you got yourself a lasagna.
If you have pepperoni at the top, the bottom and three parts in the
middle, you got yourself a lasagna.
If John's cat Garfield would turn up his nose at what you present him,
you got yourself a lasagna.
That's the opposite.
If you spell pizza with an L and a G, you got yourself a lasagna.
I'm not going to try one.
She's scared.
If what you are serving would not be out of place on the Marie
calendar's line of frozen dinners.
Jesus Christ.
You got yourself a lasagna.
But like buddy's pizza.
It's like square.
If you got a G that's silent in the name of the food.
You got yourself a lasagna.
There we do.
I did one.
I feel safe.
Or champagne.
We had champagne.
Fuck.
When I worked in the video game industry, there was this guy named.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, fine.
Yes, you're not wrong.
When I worked in the game industry, there was this guy that we started
getting emails from who was on like our company had two different teams.
We're going to do two different projects and we started getting
emails from this guy and his name was Cliff lasagna.
Wow.
And everyone was like Cliff.
Who the hell is Cliff lasagna?
We didn't know because he worked in a totally different building.
So like we didn't know he was.
So we started calling this other guy in the office.
We started, we nicknamed him Cliff lasagna.
And then Cliff lasagna got transferred to our team into my office.
Wow.
So we're sharing an office with Cliff lasagna.
Wow.
And then also with this guy, we nicknamed Cliff lasagna.
And then it was like such a thing and like we didn't know and Cliff lasagna
was a very nice guy.
So like we didn't want to be like, Hey man, we were making fun of your name.
I mean, sounds like an Italian detective.
It was such an, it was like a weirdly specifically awkward circumstance.
I had a murder scene and there's blood and he puts in his mouth.
It's actually pasta sauce.
This one's got marinara.
Cliff lasagna.
Wait, so is there a murder?
Does anything need to be done?
No, that's not my job.
I'm not that kind of detective.
Just tell if something is marinara.
No, it was marinara.
Some of this is pesto.
It's not marinara.
Is it blood?
I don't know.
It's gross.
It's like copper.
Anyway, I gotta go.
Nick.
Yes.
A lot of people have asked, do guests respond to my bad movie,
my bad taste in movies?
And let me just say that we don't have to name the specific movies.
We can't.
But let's just say that Sam has responded to some of the,
some of my film takes.
You just got some bad, you have the worst taste in movies I've ever encountered.
Wow.
Like things that are like, Jess, we've all accepted as being some of the worst movies.
You're like, oh, I like it.
And we won't, we won't say specifics.
We can't say specifics.
But we work in the industry of these things.
Although Mitch has said specifics in the past.
In the past, I've made fun of Disney and Marvel movies,
which soon will be the only movies that are made.
See, there you go.
That way.
So you've, like that, like your opinion on this, I'm like simply incorrect.
These are factually outstanding movies.
Objectively.
I will say this.
Yes.
Sam has a take that will rival some of my movie takes.
And I, and I agree with him.
Wow.
But you want to say your take.
It's about, you know what it is.
The.
Oh, yeah, I do have a take.
Wait, but when that, what was your other one?
Oh, it was, it was a, I was pointing to my penis.
Oh, no, I'm canceled.
Yeah.
Crap.
You can't get canceled on this show.
No.
Oh, good news.
No, and we showed up being, you sung, showed up to his hotel room.
Mitch was doing the Charlie Rose stepped, stepped out of the shower.
Oh, didn't realize you guys were there.
I had to, when I used to go out here, I was dressed and I just had to brush my teeth and
I made you song do it for me.
So you have, you said you have a hot take, some hand gestures were exchanged.
What is this hot take?
If you're willing to disclose it.
I am willing to disclose it.
I think the Burger King whopper is the best burger out there.
Wow.
Yeah.
I think it's the best burger out there.
Do you mean in terms of.
And it's not the best fast food restaurant.
Sure.
But the best burger goes to the whopper.
Do you mean in the fast food category or like in general?
In the fast food category.
Okay.
In the fast food category.
Yeah.
It's not, it's not, that's not outlandish.
It's not like a crazy thing to say.
That's a reasonable take.
Yeah.
No, I think so.
You know, it's a good, it's a good sandwich.
That's a thing.
It's not good.
It's the best of the burgers in its category.
I think that there is, I've said this before that there's not enough whopper appreciation.
I think that there needs to be more whopper appreciation.
And so I love, I love this take.
Well, I'm broiled patty.
A little bit, a little bit of a toasty bun sometimes.
Mayo.
People skip the mayo.
That mayo is clutch in that burger.
And also another thing that they do too, there's a mustard in there too.
There is mustard in there.
And that, and that to me is that that's like, I like mustard on my burger.
So many places don't do mustard on their burgers.
It bombs me out.
Wendy's, Wendy's does it.
Wendy's does it.
Yeah.
I, I mean, I like the whopper quite a bit.
I do think that to your point, I think it gets like, because Burger King has had some
rough years.
Yeah.
They're, they're making a comeback.
The last time we revisited Burger King, we, Mitch, you and I both had a delightful experience.
Yeah.
And, and especially that impossible whopper, have you had that one?
I have not.
They knocked it out of the park.
But first time I'm tasting an impossible burger, I was like, this tastes like a Burger King
whopper.
Oh wow.
So I was like, oh, this is like Burger King.
Oh man.
And that alone is what has sold the impossible burger.
I wonder if that's why it works so well specifically in the impossible whopper that it is just like
so taste wise.
It's very close to that original beef patty.
Yeah.
I haven't had them side by side, but yeah, I can totally buy that.
But yeah, the Burger King is like, they're making a little bit of comeback.
They're on, they're on the upswing.
They're doing, they're doing all right.
Yeah.
Also, Sam, you have, you have Burger King history.
I do.
My dad, my dad was a restaurateur.
He used to, we worked for the, for the Burger King corporation in seven years.
Whoa.
Wow.
We opened the first Burger King in Harlem.
That's right.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's cool as hell.
Wait, so did he, did he, was he a Burger King lifer?
Did he work for other companies?
Work for other companies.
He retired right after he did that.
Okay.
Move back to Detroit.
But yeah, he was, my dad was like, went to Michigan State for hotel and restaurant management
and then just got involved in the Burger King corporation.
Worked his way up the ladder there.
You know, he is so Burger King.
I have a natural affinity for it, I guess.
But let that not take away from the fact that their burgers are incredible.
But I'm saying the Whopper is.
The Whopper.
The rest of their menu, you know, try, I try and often to fail.
Yeah.
The long chicken sandwich is always going to be called the Fry's Got Pretty Bad.
Fry's Got Bad.
And then I think when he started trying to mess around with like, these are chicken fries.
Sure.
I don't like the chicken fries at all.
What are you doing?
I like them all right.
The chicken fries, I feel like are, to me, they, they are an abomination.
They are something that should not be.
I agree.
I feel like they just like the, just give me strips or give me nuggets.
But giving me fucking, what are the, what are chicken fries?
They're so weird.
Give me strips or give me nuggets.
Seven people.
Yeah.
That's your way to say.
That's your give me liberty or give me death.
Exactly.
That's what it say before being executed in the Revolutionary War.
Oh, what brave words.
Can you say chicken fingers?
Oh, no, no, no.
Kill him.
Off with his head.
Because like, like, look, in a fry, you're not going to get the meatiness of like,
what you could get in the tender.
Right.
So like, you're just eating breading.
That's fair.
You know, and like, I think what a waste.
It's a mozzarella stick with chicken meat instead of cheese.
It's very strange.
But I'll say this.
An ex-girlfriend got me on to him.
I like him now.
I like, I like the chicken fries.
Actually, I don't want to choose an ex.
Yeah.
So I no longer like those fries.
There you go.
There you go.
There you go.
I will say in the chicken front, and we've said this before, Mitch, you and I agree on
this, the long chicken sandwich they offer is a quality chicken sandwich.
I love that chicken sandwich.
Yeah.
A Burger King has some things going for it.
I'm, wait, but I'm curious about your family a little bit more.
So your dad, like, did he open any other Burger Kings and have you been to that Burger King
that he opened?
You know, I haven't been to that Burger King and no, but he then opened an outback in
Detroit.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Wow.
In Southfield, actually.
Southfield is the suburb of Detroit.
Do you have, I assume you have some outback dining experience, any favorites?
I worked in there.
You worked an outback.
I worked an outback for like two years.
I was a, I worked, carry out, I was a host and a server for like a half a minute.
Wow.
Wow.
What are some of your menu favorites?
Those cookaburrow wings were pretty good.
Sure.
You can't, you certainly can't beat a bloomin' onion.
Oh yeah.
The unique menu choice.
Their steaks were great.
Shrimp on the Barbie was terrific.
They had a great dessert.
Oh, what was it called?
It was like a cinnamon, it was like an ice cream with like cinnamon croutons.
Okay.
And, oh, and like nuts.
Why can't I think of the name of that dessert?
It was good as hell.
Yeah.
It was very good.
Problematically good.
In high school I had, I was like, you know, not, I wasn't like a superhero fit, but I
was like, you know, like the glimmer of a six pack, you know, metabolism.
But then I was working for, my dad owned an outback, so I would have like three steaks
a day.
Oh my God.
And then my metabolism was like, all right, what are we trying to do here?
Are we preparing for something?
Let's just go, all right, let's go into storage mode.
Somehow I had the same, I still had three steaks a day.
No one, no one I knew had an outback.
I'll tell you what else sucked about my dad owning an outback.
Because he owned it, and because I could like do a lot of jobs there.
If, and I lived at home because I was like 18, turning 19.
If ever anyone called off of work, and I had a day off, I had my phone ring and
I'm like, Hey Sam, what are you doing?
Oh, I'm going to go to, no you're not.
You're coming into work.
So it's like, this sucks fully.
And I think everybody kind of knew also who worked there was like, oh, I got one out.
Sam, that's, that's, and also that business, that business is crazy.
It's a tough industry to work.
A tough industry and a tough corporation because they, they're franchising things
are kind of a bit of a mess.
They like to keep all the profits.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
After you outback.
Does your dad work in, in, in restaurant business still?
No, no.
Now he, he works for Veterans Affairs in Detroit.
Oh, that's awesome.
Wow.
He's a veteran.
Oh, great.
It seems like a, that's the restaurant lifestyle seems just insane.
Yeah, it seems insane.
I know people, yeah.
I've never worked in food service and I always am like so like, I admire anyone who does
and has in the past because it's just like so, I've had service jobs and those are like
just like still adding food preparation.
And then also like, I feel like people are at their least patient and, you know,
most demanding when they're in a restaurant.
Yes.
And that's like, you're seeing a lot of humanity at their worst.
You really are.
And you're feeding the, and you, and you're doing this, like this essential job of feeding
a country.
Right.
Like, and like all these people like that, that, that people treat like shit are making
it so that you can eat every day.
You can eat.
Exactly.
It's insane.
Yeah.
It really doesn't make sense.
I never, I like, that's why even if you get, I get really bad service.
We talk about this.
We just try to be nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You never know if someone's having a bad day or it's, you know, hey, it's, it's like
if one of us ever had a bad improv show.
Never.
It could, could hypothetically happen.
You can turn any bad improv show into a great one.
By selling out your scene partner.
This is tanking.
This guy's an idiot.
I'm the president now.
President.
And you're all stupid.
Crowd cheering.
Crowds getting nuts on their feet.
Yeah.
I'm gonna pull this guy's pants down.
Yeah.
Pantamime's sucking his dick.
That's a different type of show, Nick.
Yeah.
Wait a minute.
Let's stop pantamiming.
The, the, so, yeah, but also too, I think a lot of times when, oh, I'm also very self-conscious
because people have told me I say also too, which I guess is like a regional thing.
Also too, but like both words together.
I say both words together and then I just said it just now and I didn't realize I said it
and I was like, fuck, I just said it.
And so now I'm going to be in my head anytime I say also too.
But anyway.
That's awful.
Yeah.
It's weird.
Sounds like a new Star Wars character.
Yeah.
Also too.
Also too.
Right.
Also too.
Ragnon.
Also too.
BB8.
I don't know what else to say.
But God, episode nine is going to be bad.
Do you know I have to be, don't be so cynical already going with an open mind.
Is this episode nine?
No, no, no, no.
I was like, oh my God.
No, this is this is episode nine.
No, we've, we've amazingly been doing this for hundreds of episodes.
This is, this is maybe our, this is, and also this might be our best.
This is the best it's ever done.
Episode nine of Star Wars.
Episode nine is, yeah, episode nine of Star Wars.
You're predisposed to dislike these movies and I think that's part of your
problem.
You're going in with an attitude of this is going to be bad.
But then, but don't you like the prequels?
I do.
Terrible tastes.
Oh boy.
Sam, I kind of like the prequels too.
I'm going to unplug this microphone and take off.
Your point about prequels is, is astute because there's like in the Hobbit
movies, which I think, again, I'm fine with the Hobbit movies.
They're kind of dumb.
They're unnecessary.
But there's a part where, so in, in the Lord of the Rings, they just have a
sword that's called Sting.
And in the Hobbit movies, they find, they have the moment where they find out why
his sword is named Sting.
It was like, well, you just made it less interesting.
Right.
Like I don't give a shit about this.
I like the Hobbit movies.
I like the Hobbit movies too.
I just, I'm saying that beat those kinds of story beats, those kind of prequel
elements of like, we're going to explain the origin.
This thing doesn't need an origin.
This is how this came to be.
You don't need, I don't need an origin.
I don't need to know.
Like this thing is interesting on its own.
Part of what's interesting is mystery.
Right.
I was, I think a more, a more contemporary example is solo.
The movie.
Yeah.
His name can just be Han Solo.
We don't have to justify why it's, why it's called Han Solo.
Exactly.
And then with this, also the idea that when we meet Han Solo and New Hope, he is a bad
guy, a ruffian who only cares about money and this.
And then as the journey goes, the end of his journey is that he's actually now a freedom
fighter.
He's, he's, he's come to learn that community is great.
If you show me that he has been a freedom fighter before and is like, learn this thing
and he's lost this thing, but then he fought to like, save this planet, then who is this
guy that I saw at the beginning of, of, of, of, uh, I 100% agree with that.
Yeah.
You know, like you've, you've shown that his beginning, middle and end take place in
episodes four through six.
Oh, wait a minute.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I agree with the solo thing.
Wait.
At first, the solo of, of, of, he is a freedom fighter and then, and then they are showing
that like he becomes, he's a curmudgeon.
The arc is, yeah, the arc of Han Solo is screwed up that specifically.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
I don't know, but, but, but, oh, okay.
All right.
Then I'm, then I'm on board.
I thought, I thought you were going back on the prequels.
Who's where you're taking a shot at the prequels again?
No, what, because he's not part of the prequels.
We, by the way, we got you sung so upset.
He left.
Yeah.
No, he left.
He vomited outside.
Out of anger.
Took a swing at me, but I blocked it like a ninja.
But you know what?
We learn all of Watto's story.
Which thank God.
I think thank God.
I'm glad we have Watto's full art.
The blue fire is our friend.
Armin refers to him as he's a blue flyer and also blue Yoshi is a blue flyer.
That's true, but he's not always only blue.
It's true.
Sometimes he's green.
Sometimes he's green, yellow, red.
Sam does not like this.
Let's move on from the blue.
No, I love it.
You saw him went down to get the pie, by the way.
Yes.
He's got to get that pie.
Another thing about your family.
That was a reference to the birthday boys first sketch that Nick just did right.
I liked it.
It's a good sketch.
We've got to get that pie.
There was a pie on a windowsill and then like the group came in and they're like,
I mean, you're writing it as you're doing that.
We've got to get that pie.
Oh boy.
A pie.
And then I was an old lady in the house whose pie it was.
And the whole UCB audience was like, we love these seven virgins.
Was it true at that point?
Pretty close.
Another thing because your dad worked in the chain restaurant industry.
Your mom is from Ghana.
I was reading.
Yes.
Ghanaian food.
Can we talk about that a little bit?
It's something I have no familiarity with.
Let's hit that Ghanaian food.
What are some of your faves?
So there's a thing called groundnut soup, which I love very much.
It's like peanut soup kind of.
It's really great.
And then you eat it with the thing called fufu, which is like a doughy.
It's like a dough that's like a sticky dough that is in the soup and you eat it with your
hands.
You eat with your right hand.
And it's delicious.
It's that there's.
You said sticky dough.
Yeah.
And I just want to make sure like Wyger's not back in that kitchen, right?
Oh no.
Jesus Christ.
It could be.
Depends on the consistency.
If it was that, it'd be impressive to say the least.
A peanut soup.
A peanut soup is like I'm so shot.
America's peanut butter crazy.
Yes.
Like a peanut soup doesn't that that's not a thing that's become popular here.
Well, I think it's on its way.
African culture is like starting to people in America are like, wait a minute, Africa's
great.
Yeah.
We've been telling you this for thousands of years.
There's really like because I'm thinking in LA in terms of African food, Ethiopian food,
there's a little bit of Senegalese food, but a lot of Ethiopian.
There's a Ghana restaurant out by the airport.
Oh, there is.
Okay.
When my mom comes to LA, we have to get food from there, order it from there.
And it's like so far.
But then she gets this thing called Kenke, which is like a cornmeal kind of cake.
Yeah.
And she like will like usually it's wrapped in like foil or in something and she'll get
like 10 of them and then like put it in her purse because they keep, you know.
Right.
She'll be like, oh, I got to keep this Kenke and take it back with me to Detroit.
I'm like, you have Kenke in Detroit.
But like, is that idea like I need to have this?
Right.
Because you won't eat anything else but that.
Is there a Ghanaian food scene in Detroit?
Well, my parents had a Ghanaian restaurant.
Oh, wow.
I was going to say that by the way, just to go to go all the way to LAX for food is like,
it's the place no one wants to go.
No one wants to go there.
My mom's like, can we get this?
Yeah.
No.
But yeah.
Dude.
Look, sometimes you want rock and bruise.
You got to go by a Southwest got to get away fair and eat it in terminal one.
No, that's only us.
That does shit like that.
Yeah.
So I don't relate.
What is the what is the Ghanaian restaurant by LAX?
What's it called?
I cannot remember the name of it.
But I'll tell you what, even when he called to put it in order, they're like, what?
You want to do what?
They have to get like another person comes to the phone and say, what?
I'm sorry.
Is this a prank?
I'm like, no.
We want your food.
Wow.
You guys about you guys are both acting in the same movie.
Sam, you've you've you've been acting for a while professionally weeks.
You've I'm for a while.
You both have been acting.
Shut up, man.
Sorry for my IMDb credits aren't good enough for you.
Both esteemed actors.
But this is a question I've talked with you about at length.
I wanted to get Sam's perspective on as an actor, your what do you what is your on set
eats routine?
By the way, my IMDb list, like people do put in like, like Nissan Juke's like, got to
lose it.
Oh, yeah.
Funnier die.
And I'm like, don't.
Don't put this in.
Yeah, I know.
It's always like a little bit embarrassing like when like old sketches you do or like
in there.
I did a Burger King sketch.
It was it was a second city project sketch.
That was like about when they were like, oh, they got chicken at Burger King.
And it was like when when Mary J Blige was like singing that song.
Oh, yeah.
And so like it was a sketch of me on it.
But it's on my IMDb.
And I'm always like, let's take this down.
Let's put the things on it.
And then it turns out like it's like like one of like a friend your friends put it
up on IMDb.
Like what?
What is it?
Why does it do that?
Internet movie data?
This you can't get stuff taken down from there.
No matter how like it's like it's like a process.
It's like difficult.
Like you can't even be like, hey, this is my page.
I'm this guy.
Can you please delete that I directed Brian McKnight's How Your Pussy Works
video for Funny Your Tide in like 2010.
They actually listened to real one.
I think, yeah, it was too specific and too direct.
The Berkeley Boys pie sketch is on there.
Is it really?
Ferguson always puts it back up every time I take it down.
Real quick, your onset eating routine.
Oh, yes.
Any and everything.
Any and everything.
Well, I try to, I'd be lying if I said I didn't like, there's a snack.
I'm like, I'll get that snack.
But for like, when we have lunch and catering, I do what I call Lansi and Sky, where I get
the chicken option or whatever.
It's usually chicken, some sort of chicken, a beef and a fish.
I call it Lansi and Sky and I get it every time.
Wow.
I started doing that in Veep.
That's, I mean, that's, I love that.
I love, like, you can, you should taste every, you got the, you got the-
Taste every option there, taste it.
Yeah.
I've been eating everything and it's been bad.
Yeah.
My character is getting fatter as the movie goes along.
It's an issue.
Shooting out of sequence.
Yeah, yeah.
An accordion.
We'll take a break.
We'll be back with more Doe Boys.
Welcome back to Doe Boys.
We are here with Sam Richardson.
New co-host.
New co-host.
Wow.
It may mean, it'd probably make the show too good, people wouldn't stop listening.
Well, here's the thing is, which one of us wants to quit more?
Yeah, I know.
That's the thing.
We kill each other.
The Doe Boys curse.
Trying to fight over who gets to quit.
Oh, never mind then.
This week's restaurant is Crystal.
That's right.
Which was founded in 1932 in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
It's now currently based in Atlanta.
It's interesting, the history is basically the co-founder, Rody Davenport Jr. went to
White Castle and then was like, I just want to do White Castle.
He just, he openly ripped off White Castle.
Yeah.
And if you look at it, it basically, where White Castles are and where Crystals are, it's
roughly follows the Mason-Dixon line.
Like White Castle is in the north, Crystal is in the south.
Have you, before we get into it, because I know you're from the Midwest, Sam, have
you eaten at White Castle previously?
I've eaten at White Castle a whole lot.
A whole lot.
Yeah.
What is your general take on White Castle as a chain?
I think White Castles are great.
You know, portions, you feel like you're eating a small amount, but then you get a
crave case, and so you've eaten 10 small burgers, which then would equal four
burgers, you know, but you don't notice it.
It's like a perfect amount of greasy onions and cheese on there, and the buns are
like the perfect kind of soft.
I'm a big fan of a White Castle burger.
And even they had those frozen White Castles.
Yes.
I love the frozen White Castle burgers.
They're so good.
I think that they, I think they might be better than White Castle burgers.
I think it might be the wrong White Castle you're going to.
We talked about this.
Yes, because we went to a White Castle in Brooklyn, right?
Yeah.
And that was the only time Mitch and I have ever been, they don't have them in California
where I grew up, and they don't, do they have them up in Boston?
Do they have White Castles?
No, I never, no.
So we both grew up in areas where they weren't around, and I've lived in Southern
California my whole life.
So like I've never, I would have to stumble upon one on a road trip, and I just never
happened for me.
And our White Castle experience was.
So the, I think our White Castle episode's not out yet, by the way.
Oh.
It's a little tease.
Oh.
Tease there for people.
Wait, what's happening?
I mean, you sung, I think you sung is trying to get back in the door.
Does he have your key?
Yes.
He's trying to use his own credit card.
It sounds like a mouse scratching at a wall.
You sung.
Is that you?
You sung just said, I can't get in from the other side of the door.
I'm going to go, I'm going to go open a door.
Yeah, I can't get it in.
I don't think so.
I hope that the microphones are able to pick up that, that it's kind of defeated.
Yeah, I can't get in.
The guy was okay.
Look, here's the pie situation.
The guy on the map is at the hotel, and we might as well update them on this pie.
Yes.
Because we've got to get that pie.
Yeah.
And the guy is, did my card not work for my room?
Yeah, it didn't work.
Oh my God.
Everything's going, everything's, this is like Y2K, Nick.
Every, the app is wonky.
My electronic card to get into my room isn't working.
It's just 19 years off.
The old new is coming.
Your song's like, what's that?
You mean 2K sports?
Y2K?
I was five years old.
Oh my God.
Oh my goodness.
Congratulations.
It was not an issue.
I could get the card in the door.
I just wanted to make that clear.
You couldn't, you didn't have the strength to turn the knob.
What was it?
It just kept flashing red.
I'm not sure.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
A likely story.
Invalid card.
So we, so we went to the same, the four of us in two separate
trips went to the same crystal location, which I think is the
Georgia Tech location.
At least that's what I'm guessing were all the signage.
There's a lot of Georgia Tech gear in there.
Also a lot of Halloween stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were talking about this, this Halloween stuff.
We drove up to it and there was like a, a decoration that was
like a bloody written help send, help me.
Help me.
Like a bloody hand prints.
Like that, not for a restaurant.
You guys.
Yeah.
It was too grim.
It was like something out of a hellraiser.
Yeah.
It was, it was, it was pretty grim.
And then also like, like the, and then the sad thing is you walked
in and there was a man asleep at the table.
Yeah.
Like, or anywhere that's like, oh man, this is like to see that
and then see that is it's bumming.
Yeah.
Right off the bat.
Yeah.
It's a full bum, bum out.
Yeah.
It was, it was a full bum out moment.
Caution tape, like, but like all over the place when you're like,
well, is it closed?
Yeah.
The caution tape was very confused.
It was like, it was like supposed to be like Halloween caution
tape that was like, do like spooky, do not cross or whatever.
Like it was, it was supposed to be, it was Halloween caution tape.
I took a picture of it.
Caution ghouls.
Yes.
Like when you put that, we were saying like, when you put that
over like near the trash, you're like, can we use the trash?
Right.
It's very confusing.
Looking for the bathroom door and they're like, Oh, the bathroom
is broke.
Oh, I thought it was Halloween tape.
Well, I've, I've, I've further destroyed this, this room.
Oh yeah.
That's weird that they put it up after I used the bathroom.
Exactly.
Send in a spooky janitor.
I will say that I do kind of like the idea though of a Halloween
dress up.
That's fun.
They went all out.
Yeah.
But it was the, the help me thing was a weird just first thing.
I think the points for effort and, and, and idea points deducted for
execution.
Yeah.
For the grimness of it all.
My goodness.
Right.
The, the, uh, but there were, the tables were draped in a, a
jack-o-lantern.
Some of them were.
Yes.
Some of them were.
And you, you song and I actually, we were going to go together
with you guys last night, but our flight got substantially delayed.
So we had to go this morning.
Your pilot was sick.
Our pilot was sick.
Left.
They had to bring in another pilot.
It took like an extra two hours.
Wow.
Climbing from Chicago after eating that dancing pizza.
If your pilot is flown across the country from Chicago, if your
pilot has a pilot out of his guts, you may have a Chicago lasagna.
Imagine if, imagine if Sully said he was sick.
Yeah.
Call it a day.
Boy.
Was it, was the pilot drunk?
I think it's possible that he might have been drunk.
Imagine if Denzel Washington in that movie, was it flight?
Flight.
Yeah.
Said he was too drunk to fly the plane.
He flew it anyway.
Save the day.
He rolled it.
He rolled it.
Honestly, if you were on that plane and then there were new, there
was news, and that pilot saved your life.
And there was news that he was drunk.
Yes.
Wouldn't you just be like, well, I don't care.
He saved us.
Yeah, exactly.
Where are the thrones of people who are like, hey, he did the thing that
saved us.
He did the thing that saved us.
Yeah.
I think there's kind of like, I mean, I think there's something of an
element in that movie because it's like, they're clearly the, it's the FAA,
right?
The FAA is trying to get him to say that he was like drunk and blame his,
the stewardess he was having an affair with, the flight attendant he was
having an affair with, that she was the one who was drunk or so.
I forget exactly what the logic was.
It was weird as hell.
I never saw flight.
Yeah.
It's good.
It's good.
Yeah.
But the, this isn't the flight podcast.
Not anymore, it ain't.
Let's talk about restaurants.
So we had a little bit of an order, you sang and I had a slight order confusion
which actually altered things.
It didn't seem like a big deal, but then it altered what we got significantly
because we asked for the number five combo and we're given the number four
combo.
Oh no.
And we were going to get it rectified, but there was like an issue in the
kitchen.
What are you doing?
Oh, rectified is just a weird word.
You scowled at it.
It's a reasonable word.
All right.
Fine.
It's reasonable.
Cause it sounds like rectum.
Yes.
It's a, it's a valid word.
All right.
Fine.
It's a valid world.
What is it?
What is it?
What is the difference between the two combos?
The difference is we want, we wanted the one with the regular burgers and chili fries,
but we ended up with the one with the bacon burgers and regular fries.
It's not that big of a deal, but it was fine.
We would have, there was clearly a kitchen mishap.
The guy was very apologetic.
Our server was great.
But then there was like a little bit of like a fight between him and the manager
about it.
I felt so bad that for being the source of this drama.
That's my dream come true.
Yeah.
He's getting to watch a reality TV show from the counter.
So here's what I'll say about these.
Let's start with the burgers.
We mentioned mustard earlier.
These burgers are very mustardy.
We cut out the mustard part.
We cut the mustard?
Yes.
We cut the mustard.
Okay.
Well, we mentioned mustard earlier in a deleted scene.
Yeah.
You can find in the Doughboys Blu-ray.
But this is a very, very mustardy burger.
There's a lot of mustard.
A lot of mustard.
I think for that patty that's on there, that kind of gray slime patty,
I think they kind of pile on the mustard.
I think they do.
They're covering it up.
Yeah.
That's the problem I had was with the square slime patty.
It looked like sliced ham, but it was gray.
Like it was waterlogged.
Right.
Yeah.
We had two.
I think you said that it looked like a piece of ham had been in a pool.
Yeah.
And you were correct.
That was the thing to me where I was just like,
it looks like these patties could just be cooked longer or something.
The meat is kind of gnarly.
And I feel like the beef, for a burger restaurant,
the beef is the weak point.
But I think that's also an argument some people would make about white castle.
But no, I disagree.
Oh, interesting.
If you get a good white castle bite, it's, I don't know how to describe a white castle
burger bite, but it's the perfect amount of a spongy kind of meat.
Right.
Which the consistency helps it.
This one, you didn't realize you were biting the meat.
And you looked at it and you're like, what is this?
The texture of it is not very good.
And just having a bite of that patty in and of itself is pretty unappetizing.
Sam had a moment where he had it in your, you had the beef in your mouth.
Yeah.
And you were like feeling the beef in your mouth.
And you were like, it took me like a moment to realize that this was like the beat.
Right?
Yeah.
When you like opened your, I was like, I can show you on my tongue.
I was like trying to identify what this thing was.
And I was like, this might be a patty.
Yeah.
Yep.
It's not, the patty is not great.
But look, sometimes, sometimes that doesn't matter.
Yeah.
Sometimes it can be, you know what I mean?
These are sliders.
Like it's not like the white castle frozen cheeseburgers patties are my favorite patty.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, right.
It's the taste as a whole.
It's the composition of them.
Exactly.
So we should just talk through what we each got real quick.
We got the bacon cheese crystals combo, which was bacon American cheese, beef patty with
diced onions, tangy mustard, and a dill pickle on a little roll size bun.
They're just slider size like white castles.
We also got the three chicks combo, which is a similar sort of thing.
It's like a chicken slider, pickle on it some mayo.
And we got the, with the combos, we got fries and tots.
Yeah.
That's what we got on this.
Oh, and we also got some, some hot dogs, which we'll get to in a second.
I will say that the, I think that the burgers were, they're very, very mustardy.
There's a lot of stuff on them to cover it up, but I feel like they were not bad.
We had, you song and I had a very different, I'm realizing a very different experience
because we went for the AM shift and you guys went for the late night shift.
Right.
So like that's, that's a very different scene at crystal.
Oh, there was one, there was one thing specifically, we'll get to that in a minute.
Yes.
Do you want me to read what we got?
Yes.
What did you guys get?
Just, just so you know, we went with Jen D'Angelo, who is also working on the movie.
Shout out to Jen.
And here we go.
I'm just going to list it all off.
Get him with it.
We got the bacon, the three bacon cheese crystal combo.
Came with a medium fry and a medium Coke zero.
That was Sam's.
The three chicks combo with medium tots and a sprite grape slushie.
That's what I got.
A three double crystal cheese combo.
And that came with medium fries and a medium Dr Pepper for, for Jen, three Nashville hot
chickens, a pick five, which was two crystal cheeses and two regular crystals and a small
fry and Oreo Sunday, two corn pups, two chili pups and two plain pups.
We fucking destroyed your order.
You got a lot of stuff.
We did bonkers in that place.
We went, we went, we went, we went nutty.
They had to put caution tape over the oven and fire.
And then they just wrapped it around us like mummies and put us in a meat sarcophagus.
I'll say this.
Yes.
The first thing that we had were the chicks.
We had the Nashville chicks and then the regular chicks.
I loved them.
I think the chicks are damn good.
That Nashville chick was outstanding.
Yeah.
It wasn't super hot.
It was called like a hot chicks, but, but, but it, it was so good.
I was like, make this the whole thing of your restaurant.
Yes.
I regret not getting it.
It should, it should be a chicken slider place.
The chicken that I, because the chicken was the notes I wrote down and the very simple
just crispy and hot.
And that was just like such a huge part of it.
It's just like, oh, this is just such a great mouthful.
It was, it's tasted so fucking good.
And you know, I, I would have thought about getting the Nashville hot one because I am
something of a heat seeker, but I know you song and I'm not blaming you song, but I'm
just saying that we were ordering together and you song likes things mild.
So we, we went with the regular chicks.
You song.
Did you like those?
Were the chicks to their highlight?
Do you agree with the consensus?
I think that they were much better than the, the normal crystal burgers.
Yes.
I like those way better.
The mustard was something that I couldn't a hundred percent get on board for.
It's a ton of mustard covered with mustard.
Yeah.
I don't, I think mustard is not used enough in this deleted scene.
We said this, but I, I, but I can't wait for you guys to hear this deleted scene.
Oh, there's just, uh, it's just wall to wall.
There's some of my best jokes I've ever told in there.
Uh, we figure out a couple of like, like, uh, we broke it on the human genome.
Yeah.
We figured out comedy.
Yeah.
Comedy.
Look, mustard is a great condiment.
Yeah.
And I, I, I like, I like it on those burgers.
I honestly, they should have put more mustard on there.
It was the patty that was bad.
That beef patty was bad.
I feel like there was the correct amount of mustard.
Also, I'll say that the bacon was, uh, it was fine.
It was the bacon looks good and didn't taste great.
Yeah.
I agree.
It's kind of that subway bacon.
You get it some fast food places.
Um, the, the fries I thought were quite good.
The fries were, I enjoyed those fries.
They were Wendy's fries.
It tasted like.
Hmm.
Yeah.
They tasted a little bit like, I think old school, like the new ones are
like a little tube.
They got the potatoes going on there, but they were, they were really good.
And Sam said that we should order some tots.
Yes.
A great call.
The tots were great.
Tots were good.
Really, really, really good.
Really good.
Both potato preparations.
That was, that was a standout of the meal.
Here's the funny thing.
Saying I didn't like the beef patty is true, but then also one of my
favorite crystals was the double crystal.
The double crystal, which had an air of Big Mac to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A little bit like a Big Mac.
Yeah.
It was, it was, uh, maybe because of the proportions, it was like the, you
know, like there was a little piece of bread in the middle and it was like
soft or whatever, but it was, uh, that was the best.
That was the best of the burgers that we got.
Yeah.
But is that are the, the condiments on that or the, and the fixings.
Are they the same?
Yeah.
It's still, I think it's still is a similar.
I think so too.
But it's somehow it just tricked my brain.
The onions, I think that like, because they have like the diced onions on
there and like the, I think the proportions of it make it a little
big Mackey.
Yeah.
Um, but those, that was the best of the burger.
Interesting.
The single, the single crystal with cheese and the Chris, the regular
crystal just wasn't that great.
And the, and the, and the bacon one, like we said, like the bacon wasn't
great, so it didn't really add anything to it.
Yes.
Um, yeah.
Uh, the, so the hot dogs there are small and they call them pups.
I got a classic pup and a corn pup.
So the picture on the menu, they're like little tiny buns that there's
little hot dogs going to go into.
Yes.
When we got ours, it was on just two slices of like regular white bread.
Yes.
It was just like plopped on there.
What on earth?
Yeah.
You guys, Nick sent me, so this morning Nick sent me a picture and said,
I got the Mitch and it was a picture of the tiny hot dog, which he's
implying that my dick is small.
That's pretty clear.
Um, and I just want to say that, that hot dog is human sized.
Oh, oh my, there's plenty of people there.
That's normal for a lot of people and in Nick's picture, they had the
bun on there.
We got the bun.
We got a proper bun.
We'll post the picture with our show photos, but it's a, it's a little thing.
I could literally hold it in my palm, the entire hot dog.
It's like a little ass hot dog, but it is a, but we had a proper bun.
That was the promise of the menu, which was a promise deferred.
I think it was, I think this was in your hand and PM difference.
I think this was, what were you saying?
I said, hold it in your hand.
Yeah, you can hold it in your hand.
Hold, you can hold most hot dogs in your hand.
I mean, you can balance the whole thing on my, like, my, like, it went from my,
even still.
Okay.
It was a small hot dog.
It was normal size.
It was a slider sized, the slider equivalent of a satisfying.
You can hold a turkey leg and call me your hand.
You had to, you could balance the entire thing.
That's what I was trying to say.
We got, we got it on fucking bread and then our chili dogs were the chili
dogs were also on bread.
Also on bread.
That's insane.
It was on bread and there was no cheese.
They're chili cheese dogs.
They were just, it was just chili on there.
That's a point where the kitchen should just say we're out of hot dogs versus
offering them on one bread.
The hot dogs to make them look even more like my dick were shriveled in gray.
It was a small amount of low quality meat.
But then I got to say this absolutely loved the corn dogs.
Corn dogs were great.
I loved them.
Here's what I'll say.
I, my hot dog was not great.
I loaded up with some mustard.
The meat was not, you know, the meat was like 711.
Oh, so they're coming back.
I'm going to say this about the corn, the corn pup.
It sounds like how you would say corn pop.
The corn pup is a mine was over fried.
And I thought like I tell there was a good corn dog there,
but I think they'd left it in the deep fryer too long because mine was way,
way too crispy.
Did you ask for it?
Well done.
No.
I asked for regular, I asked for a regular corn pup.
I want to give a shout out to Alexis who walked us through the,
the, this order and got, and basically we got it.
We got it 100% correct.
It was not her fault that we got these fucked up pups.
Right.
It was, it was not her fault at all.
So, but those were, those were a low light of, of the meal.
But your corn, your corn pup, your corn dog was good.
It was fantastic.
It was one of the best things in the meal.
Yeah.
Those are the chicks.
The chicks.
And I gotta say there's chicks also with me.
Those chicks so great is that meat was plump.
It's plumping juicy chicken.
Considering how, how thin the beef patties were,
there's a good amount of chicken you're getting on those, those chicks.
Yeah.
Maybe the mistake was having the chick.
I ate the chicks first and everything,
maybe every other burger couldn't compare to it.
Yeah.
Cause I had a juicy delicious chicken sandwich.
That's a great question.
If we had had those,
if we had some of those crystals burgers before the chicks,
would we have been nicer to the burgers?
Maybe not.
I don't know.
Maybe not.
I don't think so.
But the chicks are like,
maybe we were just been like, this whole meal sucks.
But like,
I did eat them in the order.
And I was like, I was like,
I'm not sure about the burger.
And then when I went to the chicks, I was like,
oh, wow.
Okay.
There you go.
All right.
Well, there it is.
I'll say,
I also got a sweet tea to drink.
The sweet tea was,
was super duper sweet.
They don't have a,
an unsweetened tea here.
I also,
it was room temp.
They just didn't give me enough ice,
which was a bummer.
But the Coke icy I got,
they have both slushies and icies,
at least at this location.
The server,
I asked the server what was better.
He said, get the icy.
So I went with the Coke icy.
It was a good,
good icy,
quality icy.
How was your slurpee?
Or I'm sorry,
I didn't know it was,
it was great slushy.
Yeah.
I liked it.
It was good.
It was very insanely sweet.
Right.
But,
but I liked it.
Hey,
we noticed this about this place.
One of the few restaurants in America left where the,
the soda fountain is behind the counter.
Yeah.
You can't trust those Georgia Tech students.
They'll ask for a water cup and then get short.
With a cooler.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Georgia Tech made Playboy's top 10 soda drinkers.
Fourth year in a row.
It's impressive.
We, so,
yeah, the slurpee was great.
We also had the Sunday,
which Jen ordered.
Yes.
I took a bite of it.
It was delicious.
She got the Oreo Sunday.
The Oreo Sunday was great.
Really good.
Well, let's,
let's get to our final thoughts on crystal.
So Sam,
here's how this will work.
We'll each go around,
give a summation of our,
of our takes,
a closing argument,
if you will,
and then finish that off by giving this chain a fork rating
from zero to five forks.
That's right.
You are a guest.
We will begin with you.
It's,
it's terrible to start with a guest.
I don't know what the standard is.
I'm kidding.
I'm joking.
It's how we've done it since episode one,
and it is terrible.
It's the wrong way to do it.
It's,
it's completely backwards.
I was like,
okay, I'll sit back here.
I was going to see how you guys do this.
And then I was like playing accordingly.
No, just straight up.
Me first one in the pool, huh?
Okay.
I'm a guest in your house.
Do you want me to go first?
No, no, no, no.
I'm not going to buck the system.
We're going to do the show wrong like we always have.
Yeah.
I guess.
Huh.
Because I didn't know.
I'm kidding.
So, so, sorry.
So, so, so I,
zero to five forks.
Zero to five forks is your score.
And that's the end with that.
Yeah.
And you can get four and a half.
And then also you can.
Yeah.
And also, by the way,
Nick and I greatly respect you for not having listened to the
podcast.
So don't ever feel bad about.
Yeah.
I'm a busy man.
And you just give you,
give you just some of your thoughts and then you end with
your fork score.
You always hope when you go on a podcast,
you haven't listened to that it never comes up.
I don't listen to any podcast.
I really don't listen to podcasts.
I'd rather,
I respect you more both because of that.
I rather like,
because we've had,
I'd rather have this,
because we've had people come on and be like,
love the show.
It's the best.
Am I trying to match it?
And then they get, but no,
but then they get,
they're clearly here.
We're just lying to us.
Cause they get to it and they're like,
wait, so is that a forks?
Like it's just like,
if you listen to the show once.
Yeah.
You get that.
And they're like seven stars.
And we're like,
what are you talking about?
You fool.
Why did you lie?
You know, fist fight on the podcast.
Do you hear it?
Yeah.
We won't, we won't say anything specifically,
but there's like people who email us like,
we love the show.
Can we come on?
Or like, sure.
And then they are,
then they're like,
you're like, oh,
you never listened to it before.
Wait, we have to,
we have to eat at a restaurant?
Yeah.
That's a whole concept.
It's atrocious behavior.
But anyways,
pressure's back on.
Time for your review.
Let me make sure,
let me make sure I get this right.
Yeah.
So the first thing is a summation of it.
Yeah.
Final thoughts.
And the second part is the four.
So just the two things.
Oh yeah.
Oh, okay.
Oh, it's really dumb and easy
and stupid.
Yeah.
I've made a big deal out of this
and exposed myself.
So my summation, crystals.
They should make the chicken slider
their whole menu.
I agree.
Far superior or anything else on the menu.
The burgers,
a terrible comparison to a white castle.
20% of the original
and the chicken slider,
one of the best fast food chicken sandwiches
out there.
Wow.
One of.
I like that.
I'm not putting it,
I'm not even putting it top five,
but I'm saying it's,
it could be number six.
It's good.
It's good.
It makes sense that this place like,
it would make sense that this place existed to me
because of that chicken slider.
Sure.
But that is not the reason
that this place exists.
I give it two and a half forks.
Two and a half forks.
Okay.
A fair review.
Right down the middle.
Look, Harold and Kumar went to white castle
for a reason it seems.
I know that we had a bad experience with it.
Harold and Kumar didn't go to crystals.
It's true.
It's true.
And there's a reason they didn't go to crystals.
By the way,
I mentioned this when we were doing the
White Castle episode,
there was a version where they were going
to go to Krispy Kreme
because they had to get like the chain
to sign off on it.
Oh yeah.
And they were like,
Harold and Kumar go to Krispy Kreme
and Krispy Kreme was like,
no, but White Castle was like,
yeah, sure.
Imagine if Harold and Kumar went to Krispy Kreme instead.
Oh boy.
Totally different reality.
Yeah.
Who would be president?
Yeah.
Definitely not.
It's not Trump.
It's Cal Penn is president.
Cal Penn is president.
Usong's back.
Hey, Usong finally got a pie.
A pie.
Oh, beginning, middle and end of the story.
That is the end of the sketch.
Usong also just dabbed, which was.
Which was enlightening.
A lot of fun.
Harold and Kumar did not go to crystals.
Just the name crystals is kind of like,
and also like knowing that this is just
a rip off restaurant doesn't make me feel
as bad.
Here's the deal.
I liked Alexis.
Yeah.
I actually did like that they tried to
have fun in the restaurant.
And I like,
I like a sliders restaurant because there's
not a ton of sliders restaurants.
Sure.
And I wish there was a Jerry O'Connell themed
sliders restaurant as well.
Just alternate realities.
It's like a McDonald's that serves pizza.
A lot of Derek's also in that show.
That's a great idea, Weigher.
I mean, you couldn't make that restaurant.
No, you could.
I thought the chicken sliders were,
the chick sliders were great.
And I thought that the corn dog was good.
I just think that like their bread and butter,
to bring it back to bread and butter,
their bread and butter there is not a,
it's not, it's not impressive.
It's not, it's not those,
those crystal sliders are not that good.
Maybe we had a bad version of them,
but you went at a different time and it seemed
like they weren't good then either.
I want to give it higher just because I liked
Alexis.
I like, I'm going to go 2.75 forks.
2.75 forks.
That's kind of where it falls.
Two forks three times.
Yeah.
I will, I agree with the consensus.
The chicks were, were quite a bit better
than the, the, the regular sliders.
I like the fries.
I like the tots.
We mentioned they had strong,
strong potato preparations.
Little, little heavy on the deep fryer with a corn pup.
The classic pup was, I don't know.
The hot, the meat quality I feel like is,
it seems worse with a hot dog than with the patty,
even though the patty isn't great either.
But I think they, I, I, I like the idea.
I like that they, this, I like the slider concept again.
Like, like, like white castle.
I like the idea of like small things.
Like that's fun.
Hmm.
I'm going to.
Didn't see that way when you made,
you said you ordered the Mitch.
I like small things.
I like.
I hate small things.
I like all the small things.
I like the minions.
Those are a hoot.
Blink 182.
Yeah.
Was that a Blink 182 reference?
It was.
Yeah.
All the small things.
The last.
Stewart and Jerry and Bob and the gang.
The last song.
Why are you listening?
Why are you not listening to music by the way?
I listen to music.
Oh yeah.
Prove it.
Do, do, do, do, do.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Checkpoint pass.
Go ahead.
I came into this wondering is this crystal going to be more like the kingdom of the crystal
skull?
A disappointment.
And I feel like it was kind of in the middle.
And so I'm going to be ballpark buds with you guys.
We're going to be, do we see ladder climbing stair step?
Yeah.
Whatever it is.
Yeah.
We're climbing the ladder.
It's not our own thing.
I'm going to go all the way up to three forks.
Because I feel like the chicken and the fries and the tots were good enough to put it right
there.
I think it's a very down the middle fast food place that it just has some deficiencies.
I don't think it's terrible.
If I went to Georgia Tech and I was like hungover or something, I'd probably get crystal.
For that.
I would.
From that standpoint, I think it absolutely achieves what it's trying to do.
But.
I show up and I get the chicken sandwich.
Also, it is so odd to have to call them crystals.
They sound like you're some wizard.
Yeah.
You know, I'll have one chicken crystal regular crystal, please in the sack.
Yeah.
A sack of crystals is straight.
That's very.
It's straight.
It's very strange.
Is that way?
Like Gandalf always had diarrhea.
Exactly.
So he's like smoking weed and then going to eat a crystal.
He's like the ball.
Rock.
Rock is like, he wasn't like in danger, but he's like, I got to go like shit my pants.
So he fell through the thing and then he wore a brand new outfit because his shit is closed.
And it's like, I'm getting off the white now.
After all that, you're going to use white Gandalf.
He's like, I'm a fool.
I should have gone with Gandalf the brown.
You know what I mean?
As you know, when he says run you fools and he falls.
Yeah.
When you see him falling, if you look close enough, you can see shit shooting out of his
eye.
He's like spilling out and they act like it's lava from the monster.
It's not.
It's his own doodoo.
That was our review of crystal.
It's time for a segment.
I've got a mystery drink and Mitch and Sam must guess what it is.
It's another edition of the Weiger Challenge.
There are three cups here.
I'm going to have some of this as well, even though I know what this beverage is.
So it's peachy.
Let us know what you are.
What you are sensing.
What you are seeing.
We've got some solo cups that Usong has prepared for us.
Usong has prepared?
Oh, okay.
I got you.
Yeah.
Usong poured these into these solo cups from the container.
Usong had to deal with the pot today.
He's doing a great job.
He's hanging in there.
This peach wine, I'm three years sober.
Oh, man.
I'm not.
I surprised you with alcoholic beverages.
Oh, my God.
Dear Lord, this is the most, this is peach juice.
My guess is it's quite peach juice.
Yeah, it's like peach.
This is a, it's a clear liquid, we should say.
Clear.
It appears to be lightly carbonated.
It could be solo cup colored.
You're giving too many hints and it appears to be lightly carbonated.
I'm just trying to paint a picture for the people listening who don't have this beverage
in front of them.
I said peach juice.
Changing that up.
I know.
It's a peach soda.
It's a peach soda of some kind.
It's just so peachy strong that it's almost, it almost tastes like pure concentrate peach.
Very peachy.
I know.
Does Coca-Cola have like a peach?
They do.
And we had, we actually had Coca-Cola peach in a recent episode.
I'll give you a hint.
It's not this.
It's not this?
It's not this.
I felt, I felt because of the Georgia Connect.
This is really tough.
I don't, I don't know what this is.
Man, I don't know what this is.
Well, Mitch, you are a juggernaut when it comes to the Weigar Challenge.
You two do tend to win.
That's true.
I do tend to win the Weigar Challenge, just so you know.
Sam's a competitive guy.
I think that he is going to...
I'm a detective.
He wants a taste detective.
Well, he's going into Cliff Lasagna mode.
Cliff Lasagna.
This is definitely not marinara.
It's a marinara.
And if it ain't, then I don't know what it is.
It's water, Cliff.
Oh.
Did you not know?
You don't know anything besides marinara?
Yeah.
Nope.
No.
I sure don't.
Does anyone want to care to wager a guess?
Mitch, what are you thinking?
I mean, I got to go peach soda.
Peach soda.
And I don't know, so I got to try to think of like...
Shit.
I mean, we're probably both thinking peach soda of some kind.
Would you care to get more specific?
Okay.
I'm going to say that this is...
Perrier peach soda.
Perrier peach soda.
It's Mike Mitchell's guess.
You say peach sprite.
Peach sprite.
Wow, peach sprite.
Well, I'm going to...
Wait, is the can in here?
Okay, good.
I'm not sure how to judge this.
I think this is a draw.
Because you're both right on the peach.
But what we have is Red Bull Peach Edition.
Wow.
Red...
I'll tell you what, the peach overpowered any sort of anything else.
This is Red Bull Peach.
This is Red Bull Peach.
Wait, so I was just doubting a bunch of energy drink?
Yeah, I probably should have given you a heads up about that.
I'm going to bed in five minutes.
Oh, crap.
Recording at 1 a.m., you're both going to be wired.
Wow.
Yeah, Red Bull Peach.
I think it's a tie.
I don't think either of you is closer.
I don't think either of us is close enough.
Yeah.
No.
So you both get to share the empty can,
which is the reward for the Water Challenge.
I sure don't.
I'm going to say this.
Yeah.
That's one of the tastier Red Bulls I've ever had.
Yeah.
It's quite good.
It's good.
It doesn't taste like a Red Bull.
No, not at all.
It's very, very sweet though.
This is a dangerous, speaking of Georgia Tech,
this is a dangerous college mixed drink.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
If you mix this with peach snops, you'll kill someone.
Yeah, that's cool.
I didn't think about that.
Oh my God.
This is a dangerous mixer.
Like a this and vodka.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's because it's so strong tasting, but it's tasty.
Yeah.
Like it's so overpowering and it's kind of tasty.
We have to warn the people.
We've got to go to Georgia Tech.
Quickly, give me a platform.
Dude.
Nobody drinks the Red Bull peach.
It'll get you too drunk.
It's too much fun.
Kids leave their classes and streams.
That was the Weigert Challenge, just like a restaurant
without your feedback.
Let's open up the feedback and we have a voicemail today.
Wow.
Let's go ahead and listen into this.
Hey, Nick.
Hey, Mitch.
This is Robert Persinger.
I'm currently standing in the middle of Disneyland
and it got me wondering, what are your guys' favorite
theme parks food?
Thanks as always for all the hard work you do on the show
and happy eating.
Bye.
Thanks, Robert.
Thanks, Robert.
Good to hear your voice.
We've met Robert before, though, haven't we?
Yeah.
Robert is a friend of the pod.
Robert's a good dude.
Close friend, clearly.
We've met this close friend before.
He didn't give you a shout out either, so fuck you, Robert.
How dare you?
Here comes a headbutt through his microphone.
Sam literally headbutt the microphone.
And it hurt me more than it hurt you.
You know, Weigert, they'll be able to hear the headbutt.
They'll hear him putting it into the microphone.
I just wanted to know.
I just wanted to sound effect.
I explained it before I did it.
We could have lied and said that he made that noise himself.
He's a sound effects expert.
I'm the new Michael Winslow.
It's a helicopter.
It's a gun.
That's a gun being shot in the helicopter.
I like thinking of Michael Winslow, like, nervously listening to this episode and sweating.
Oh, no.
I am in trouble.
Alert, alert.
We gotta go to the house.
Sam, are you much of a theme park attendee?
I am indeed.
We talked about this the other day.
What are some of your faves and what are some of your fave bites?
Disney World is like an all time fave.
Islands of Adventures, Universal Studios.
I worked at Disney World for a chunk of time.
Oh, yeah, I did the college program.
I worked in the animal kingdom.
Did we get to see any large cats?
Yeah.
Are we talking like a leopard or are we talking like a lion?
A lion.
What a weird-ass question.
I'm fascinated by large cats.
You know, large cats are my favorite things, too.
I'm a big fan of a large cat.
I told Wyger this, and he disagreed, and you probably will, too.
I think that if I was near a lion or a large cat...
You'd be friends with it?
I thought I'd be friends with it.
See, you were wrong.
You're 100% wrong.
There's a video of a per-ever woman who did that recently.
Oh, I'll communicate with the cat, and they're like, get out of there.
The thing is, the large cat looks at the person and is like,
this is a trick.
If I kill this person, I'm not going to get any more food ever again, right?
I've been trained to not do this.
But the person is like, see, it loves me.
However, for me, it would work for me,
because the large cats would love me.
I'm very much a cat with...
We didn't get into this.
You're a cat guy.
Oh, yeah.
I love my cat Gus.
You've got a great cat Gus.
He's the best dude, he really is.
What kind of cat is Gus?
He's a calico, right?
Oh, yeah.
Or is it calico?
I don't know.
It's my girlfriend's cat.
My girlfriend moved in.
You might be right.
I might be pronouncing it wrong.
Let me make sure I'm saying this right.
I'm going to use the old internet.
I'm a dog dude, but I have respect for cat folk.
First of all, you're not a dog, dude.
You don't own a dog.
I like dogs.
We had a dog as a cat.
You like cats, too.
I also like cats.
I'm just saying I'm more of a dog, dude.
A dog bit your face.
A dog did bite my face when I was very young.
It was traumatic.
I didn't like dogs for a while, but I've come back around.
I've gotten over my fear of dogs.
And they beat out cats.
This is insane.
I like our anapals.
I like them in general.
I like the animal friends.
I happen to be more of a dog guy.
Cats rule.
Dogs have had the spotlight for far too long.
Cats rule.
Cats are pretty great.
He's not a Calico cat.
But I've got no signal.
Mitch, while he's figuring that out, do you have any theme park favorite foods?
Yes.
I love Disney World, too.
I'm with Sam.
I say Disney World's superior to Disneyland is a big fight we get in all the time.
Who's saying that it's not true?
Weiger.
I like Disneyland.
You grew up in California.
I'm a SoCal guy.
I'm a lifelong SoCal server.
I mean, Disney World is just literally hands down.
They made Disney World because they're like, this isn't good enough.
Yes.
Oh boy.
I guess the ride friends are going to be upset.
There's another podcast, Podcast The Ride, which is a theme park podcast.
Oh yeah.
We booked you on that, too.
Okay.
Let's go.
Let's say a roller coaster there.
Is that cool?
It's right after this.
Yeah, no.
It's like three hours long.
It's in Mitch's bathroom.
Well, I mean, I had this Red Bull, so I'm up.
My favorite podcast, my favorite theme park snacks.
Yes.
I think there's two, when it comes to Disney, I think there's just two kings.
And like the spin doctor saying.
I thought you were going to say like the prequel to three kings.
It's two princes is the spin doctors.
My two favorites are the churro.
Just upbeat.
I mean, it's the king.
You mean like a churro from anywhere?
A churro from anywhere, but a Disney churro is great.
Yeah.
And then after that, I'm going to go with the Dole Whip or Dole Whip Flow.
With you 100% on the Dole Whip.
Houston gave a thumbs up to the Dole Whip.
I was going to give you that.
I'm all about a churro.
Dole Whip.
I'm allergic to pineapple.
I'm allergic to apple.
Oh, right.
Turkey leg.
Turkey leg is.
Big fan of a damn turkey leg.
Tiger is a turkey leg skeptic.
Boy, I don't love the big turkey leg.
You're a damn fool.
Well, let's get in the fist fight right now.
Oh man.
I want to die.
Sam, I can't tell you how much I would love that.
I mean, this is this.
It would hands down be my favorite.
Tell boys.
I'm sort of you end this episode by.
Happy birthday, Mitch.
Knock him on the window.
Punched.
Why?
Also, I'll tell you what, because I got the inside scoop, having worked there.
In the cafeteria of the in the employee cafeteria, yeah, they had the best damn
strawberry shortcake I've ever had in my life.
Whoa.
I think about it to this day.
That was 20 fucking years ago.
Wow.
Almost 20 years ago.
The best strawberry shortcake I've ever had.
Wow.
In the cafeteria of the animal kingdom parks and resort.
Wow.
At Disney's Disney World.
I'm going to Disney.
I'm going to animal kingdom this this this year.
I'm going I'm going to Walt Disney World.
How exciting to get on the avatar.
Gonna get again.
I'm gonna do the avatar rides.
I want to go.
So I haven't been since I worked there 19 years ago.
Neil Kiley.
I haven't I haven't been now.
I went to Disney World last about 14 years ago.
Yeah.
And my godfather son says avatar best ride he's ever been on.
Wow.
The avatar ride.
Neil Kiley, owner of Fat Cat.
Boy.
Best best ride he's ever been on.
Had a dog.
Yeah.
I'm very excited about it.
I'm gonna go.
I gotta tell you.
Now the dole whips.
There's flavors that aren't pineapple.
Oh, really?
That might not have any pineapple in them.
There's orange and raspberry.
It's the might that that makes.
Yeah.
Of course.
But if you can't if there's no pineapple in the orange dole
lip or the raspberry one.
Both fantastic.
I love a raspberry anything.
And you.
Raspberry strawberry anything.
That's what yeah.
We got popsicles on the set.
Courtesy of Chris Pratt.
How fun.
Yesterday and you went with the raspberry lime.
I'm a huge and I was going to ask you this.
Are you a raspberry lime Ricky fan?
What's Ricky?
This is a it's a Boston drink, but we connected so much on on
a on Boston coolers, which is a Detroit drink.
Detroit drink, which it's called a Boston cooler.
Have you had it before?
I had them all grown up and they were called.
I thought they were from Boston.
Boston Edison is a neighborhood.
Boston Edison is like a is like a neighborhood in Detroit.
It's where I grew up.
As a matter of fact, Boston Edison district.
And so it's made the Boston cooler is made with verners,
which is like a ginger ale.
It's more like a ginger beer, ginger ale-ish kind of drink,
which was used to be the factory used to be in Detroit.
Now it's in Texas, but it's that with vanilla ice cream.
So it's like an ice cream float with with ginger ale.
It's called a Boston cooler and it's the best.
My mom will make it for me when I was sick and I love them more
than anything.
Like those verners is like in Detroit.
It's a like a cure all kind of like your stomach.
You have a upset stomach.
Have some verners.
You broke your leg.
Have some verners.
They're pouring verners on your brother.
Right on that broken leg.
And it works.
Is this true, Sam?
Verners ginger ale, your favorite drink?
It's up there.
I also am a big fan of a Fego, but it's it may be
my favorite drink.
I drink a verners, a diet verners everywhere I go.
What flavor Fego do you go with?
Red pop.
Red pop.
Is ginger ale your favorite soda?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a big fan of ginger beer too.
Yeah.
I love a Moscow mule.
Moscow mule.
Dr. Stormy?
No, the brand of the ginger ale.
Bunga.
I always got the kangaroo on it.
Bunga birds.
Bunga.
Yes, I know what you're talking about.
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
I think this was called.
Or ginger beers.
Yeah.
But verners, I think verners is actually my favorite drink.
It is.
Is there any other theme park snacks?
Because I was going to say that Mickey pretzel with the
with the cheese dipping sauce is a great one.
It's pretty good.
I've had some bad ones, but if you have a good one,
it's very, you know, frozen lemonade.
I feel like it's kind of a catch all a lot of times
on a hot day.
That's that's a lot of fun.
I've had the, you know, the Bengal barbecue in Disneyland.
I'm not sure if there's a Disney world equivalent.
It's terrific.
Yeah.
It's really good.
It's like grilled meats.
Like kebabs kind of.
Yeah.
Things really goes right across from the jungle cruise.
I've gotten a lot of shit for this.
Well, first of all, when I go, the first thing I get at Disney
when I go usually is a Coke heavy, a regular Coke.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And in a churro.
And I also just love when I'm at Disney World,
I'm drinking Coca-Cola all day long.
Oh, yeah.
The breaks are off.
I'm just going full Coca-Cola.
When I'm in Disney World, I'm enjoying edibles.
I used to do these like edible goldfish.
And so I was just like, you know, like 10 goldfish is like a full eye.
So I just like eat a bunch.
And I just like very slowly just, you know, micro dosing as I go
and everything is magical.
It's really good.
That would be me losing my mind at Disney.
Yeah, it is.
Crying on a small world.
I also like, I get a lot of shit for this, but I like pizza port.
Pizza port is good.
Actually, I like pizza port.
It's good.
It's like great.
It's better than Chicago.
There you have it.
Pizza port pizza, better than Chicago.
I love that.
Let us know your theme park favorites.
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Thank you so much for being so generous with your time.
Oh, thanks for having me.
It was really fun.
Do you have anything you would like to plug in this time?
Yeah.
Ghost draft.
Go see the movie ghost draft.
Next year.
Next year.
Go see Super Intelligence comes out Christmas of this year.
Oh, wow.
Follow me on the old Twitter, Sam Richardson,
on the Instagram, the Sam Richardson.
And, you know, just so you see him in the street,
just don't come up to me.
I'm very unpleasant in person.
I'll do it for this episode of Toboy's.
Until next time.
For the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.
I'm Nick Weiger.
Happy eating.
See ya.
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