Doughboys - The Ate-TL: The Flying Biscuit Cafe with Steve Agee

Episode Date: October 3, 2019

We're kicking off Octdoughberfest 2019: The Ate-TL with actor and comedian Steve Agee (Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, The Sarah Silverman Program) as we review The Flying Biscuit Cafe, an Atlanta-based chain that specializes in southern style biscuits. Plus, another edition of Snack or Wack.Sources for this episode's intro include:FoodTimeline.org: Biscuits & Cookieshttp://www.foodtimeline.org/foodcookies.htmlBiscuit Bakers’ Treasured Mill Moves North By Shaila Dewanhttps://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/18/dining/18flour.htmlThe Flying Biscuit Cafe sold from the Atlanta Business Chroniclehttps://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2006/05/15/daily25.htmlAn Interview with the Owners of an Atlanta Original: The Flying Biscuit Cafe by Ho Chiehttp://www.taiwaneseamerican.org/2010/07/an-interview-with-the-owners-of-an-atlanta-original-the-flying-biscuit-cafe/Lesbian restaurateur Delia Champion: The Chicken Sausage Queen of Atlanta by Patrick Saundershttps://thegavoice.com/culture/lesbian-restaurateur-delia-champion-chicken-sausage-queen-atlanta/Flying Biscuit’s Chacon: “We’ve all made mistakes,” Says No Future Restaurant Revenue Will Go To Kemp by Jason Rhodehttps://thegavoice.com/news/atlanta/flying-biscuits-chacon-weve-all-made-mistakes-says-no-future-restaurant-revenue-will-go-to-kemp/The Flying Biscuit Cafe Websitehttps://flyingbiscuit.comWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the early American South, flour was scarce and reserved for only the richest of households. The abundance of corn instead made cornbread the people's loaf, until the 19th century when increased wheat production and better milling efficiency, combined with the invention of baking powder, led to the creation of one of the region's most beloved foodstuffs, the Southern Style Biscuit. Armed from the UK idea of a biscuit, i.e. a mislabeled cookie, the Southern Style Biscuit is soft, fluffy, and savory, served at all times of the day, often with butter, honey, or gravy.

The biscuit's popularity grew over the decades and persisted on the other side of the Civil War and in the 20th century chains like Kentucky Fried Chicken and store-bought brands like Pillsbury helped take biscuits nationwide. Flash forward to 1993 when restaurateur Delia Champion, with an investment from a member of the Indigo Girls, opened an all-day breakfast joint in the Candler Park neighborhood of Atlanta, Georgia, with its hook being biscuits baked in store. Champion, who is openly gay, endeavored to have her diner be an LGBT-friendly oasis in the Red State Capitol, a legacy that continues under the stewardship of its current management,

brothers Joseph and Matthew Schau. Today on the back of its famous biscuits and grits, Champion's concept has expanded to 25 locations in four Southeast States and has become a diner destination for celebrities, tourists, and locals. And while flour may now be cheap and abundant, a properly made biscuit remains a rare Southern delicacy. This week on Doe Boys, we begin October Fest 2019. The Doe Boys present the 8TL, our month-long exploration of Atlanta's food and other stuff,

with Atlanta's own Flying Biscuit Cafe. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weigar, alongside my co-host, Squint Julep, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell. Ooh, it's a Southern theme. It's a Southern theme. That was courtesy of Michael Rader, roastspoonman at gmail.com, if you have an insult you like me use at the top of the shelf. Let me tell you, I'm not Rader Nation with that guy.

Oh boy. Well, you wouldn't be Rader Nation to begin with. Oh yeah, that's true. You're a Pat's fan. I'm a Patriot's fan. And we're here. Mitch, we are recovering, but we're also recording here in Atlanta, hot Atlanta. That's right.

Because it's Oktoberfest 2019, the 8TL, a full month of Atlanta-themed chain restaurants. Is this our worst Oktober theme, Nick? No, I think Oktoberfest was the worst. Oh yeah, it was worse. That was very bad. Jesus Christ. No, that was a debacle. Nick, you shouldn't talk about how bad the show is, so our guest doesn't leave before

we start recording. I mean, he's going to learn very quickly. We're recording here in your hotel room. That's right. You're surrounded by your dried comb. It's very... It's... It's Oktoberfest.

It's Mitchel's Oktoberfest. Nick? Yes. It's not completely dry. I can't confirm that. Oh God. Jesus Christ, Emma. Dear God, you're lying.

This is very, because we're, and our guest will introduce in just one second, is sitting next to me on the couch. Emma is sitting on your bed. You're lying prone on your bed. That's right. It's like a sleepover thing. It's a strange... It's a strange decision on your part.

All right. It's a fun... We're having fun. We're having fun. Mitchel, I'm sure you got a drop for us. Yeah. Howdy-how to Spoonation. Oh God, I'm sorry to our guest.

I didn't want him to see me do that. Howdy-how. I get it. I steal from South Park. Here we go. Here's a drop. Getting in the shower of no peeking. No peeking.

I'm not peeking. I'm not peeking. And I went, Mom, what the fuck? I never got hard. That makes two of us. You song and I spent some time in Mrs. Mitchel's company. Why are you saying that shit? Okay.

It's weird, Mom. Oh God. I mean, I should just listen to the... I mean, I did listen to it, but I didn't even really hear the words. That was fine. That was on par with all the drops. That's true. Yeah.

They're all bad. Yeah. Hello, Doughboys Media conglomerate. A new song hitting the charts seemed to be joined by Spoonman Original convinced me to make my first ever drop. It's his first drop ever, Nick. No wow or anything. Okay.

I had so much fun making it. I'll make more if I get inspired again. It's relative to the show. I hope you enjoy it. Thanks to the entire crew for the insane amount of entertainment. You'll be a priority or whatever. Hopefully you can make it to Minneapolis one day. Love you all.

Chris. Thank you, Chris. Chris Mall. Oh, that's nice. It's Darth Maul. Is it spelled like Darth Maul? There's an E on the end of it. It's still pretty good.

It's still pretty good. You're disappointed by that? If it was spelled exactly like Darth Maul, it would have been cooler. It's not exactly like Darth Maul. Yeah. It's pretty good. Chris Maul is like Darth Maul's like fuck up brother. Get out of my room, Chris.

Building a light. Whoa. Two sides. Let me check it out. This is Roger Clinton. Yeah. I'm filing my many horrors. Mitch, we should introduce our guest.

Someone who we've been. We needed to get up. This is true. We've had this is a very, very happy coincidence that he happened to be here. He's been. We've had it. We've had a Doughboys guest list for a very long time. Yeah.

And for real, you've been at the top of it. We've talked about it a lot. We're very, we're very excited to have you. An actor, writer, comedian from Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, the Sarah Silverman program and the upcoming film, The Suicide Squad. Steve Aegis here. Hi, Steve.

Hi, guys. How are you? Full. Yeah. This is a really, this is a rough one. Binge. A fucking bunch of biscuits and grits. Southern food.

Yeah. And now we're recording and we're actually after walking back 10 minutes in the fucking sweltering Atlanta heat. It's too hot down here. That's my new thought on things in Atlanta. It's just too hot. And so the humidity is punishing. Yeah.

It's just so, it's like walking through soup. It's so, so thick and dense. I've always hated the nickname Hot Lanta and I totally get it now. I'm like, I'm fine with it. I've shot here twice before, once in the winter and once in the spring and it was lovely. And I was like, well, I don't get it. Right.

It's really. What film, what did you shoot down there? Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Of course. Yes. 2000, I don't know, 15. Yeah. Yeah.

Or 16. And then I did a movie that came out this year called Brightburn. Oh yeah. Horror movie. Yeah. That was a fun movie. That was weird because that was borderline where the weather switches. We were shooting on a location out on this farm and one day it was almost 90 degrees

and the very next day it was 46 degrees. That's insane. Wow. That's so crazy. That shouldn't happen. That's crazy when the pendulum swings like that. Oh, so that's cool that you were you're in. You're in legit superhero movies and then you're in Brightburn, which is like a super

horror superhero horror movie. It's like a super superhero genre movie. Yeah. Yeah, which is cool. I've watched superhero movies, so that's something. Do you know what? I don't believe you. I saw the original super man.

You know, Nick and I are kind of, I mean, I was gonna say that like will someday be referred to as a suicide squad to you and I. Right. Very. Take our lives. I'll be an on-the-nose nickname. Steve, we're talking about heat and that actually ties into to some degree where you grew up in Riverside, California, California's inland empire.

It's very sweltering there. A different kind of heat. A dry heat. A dry heat. Yeah. I hate all those buzzwords like dry heat, hot land, like, but it really is. It's legit. Like I'd rather be in 100 degrees.

Yes. In LA than 90. Even 90 here is feels like worse than 100 degrees in LA. Oh yeah, definitely. I kind of miss just because on the East Coast humidity makes me feel think of summertime and then on the West Coast that feeling never really happens. Like a little bit in August or something. Right.

That's kind of it. But this is bad. I don't like this at all. This is so disorienting. It's October. The way you're laying is so weird. What are you talking about? I can't lay on my stomach.

It hurts my lower back. Oh, interesting. I sleep on my stomach. I'm like a little baby. I'm a stomach sleeper. What's your, do you have like ongoing lower back pain? Because I dealt with it at L5S1 bulging disc for a long time. Steve, I know this about you.

This is true that you broke your back. Is that true? No. I sprained my, oh, what the fudge is it called? My sacroiliac, which is the nerve. Jesus. The tendons that connect your spine to your hip. But was there, and I don't know if you, if you want to talk about this, but there,

you were a rock climber. And there was an accident? Oh, yeah, yeah. That was, that was the 90s. I had a really bad fall and I stopped rock climbing because of it. I broke some ribs and. Were you free climbing? I was bouldering and then I just started, kept going and yeah, it felt like 30 feet.

Oh my God. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. What was the recovery like for that? Well, I was in my 20s, so it was really, I was just like, I never followed up with physical therapy because I tore my rotator cuff and I was like, oh, it feels fine. And now that I'm 50, like my shoulder just hurts all the time and like, if I sleep with

my hands under my head, I'm just like aching now. Like if, if you're in your 20s and hearing this and you injure yourself, please follow through with your physical therapy. Do the physical therapy. I say that as someone who's also been through physical therapy and yeah, that, I mean, it's like that's the, that's the only thing that made me feel better and help me avoid surgery. Yeah. That and yoga for my back.

How'd you hurt your back? He was sucking his own. Whoa. You can just get rid of a rib today that you don't have to fuck up your back. Well, you know, the issue is that's not actually the limiting factor. It's more of your flexibility versus the the rib doesn't really get in the way. But but anyway, but no, I like I had the first time I've ever heard you speak about this clarify the logistics of it.

This could be a note, but it's a real thing, by the way. All right. We don't need to go there. I'm the so that I hurt my, I hurt my I was repetitive stress, honestly, from working fucking desk jobs. That was the worst part about it. It was just such a fucking boring injury sitting sitting sitting will fucking destroy you. You know, and that's just like I feel like I feel so much empathy for like truckers and

people who were just like tethered to a seat for the entire. So you don't have surgery. I didn't need to have shit. I was able to avoid surgery and just sort of like gradually recover from it. But it was it's more about like strengthening your core and everything around it. Are you preventative now? Do you do yoga? Yeah, I do all that shit.

I stretch Mitch. You you've called me out for stretching when we've had shared accommodations. Yeah, it's weird. It's important. It's important. You use a belt. Yeah. And you use a strap around your neck and you sit down in front of the door and start

masturbating. Stretching. Yeah. Stretching your chances of longevity. I want to go like Epstein did. So you're from the Inland Empire. You're used to heat. What do you like to eat when it's hot?

Are you someone who likes like a like like chili or you like someone likes like a popsicle or any option chili or a popsicle well some people like hot some people like hot food when it's hot. Some people like like I can't imagine like a baked potato or chili right like on a hot summer day. Yeah. Like hot dog or hamburger totally feels right on a hot day. Yeah, definitely.

If you've got like a beer or something. Yeah. Yeah. I now you're saying that I'm like oh yeah. That is a thing I did when I was younger in the heat like a push pop or something like that. Right. Or the frozen pop.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those double popsicles which I've never encountered in adulthood. They have two. Yeah. Popsicle sticks. Yeah.

I had I had I feel like I had those like four times a week as a kid and then I turned 18 I just stopped having them all to get I just stopped even seeing them. I don't know where I'd even get one now. I used to live in an apartment in Valley Village in LA like on Moorpark near Tehunga and one day I was sitting in my room writing at my desk and I heard the ice cream truck outside and I was like oh my god. Yeah. And I was like maybe I should get some ice cream and then I heard the music stop and

I was like oh fuck he's like right outside and I was on the ground floor and I went to my window and I looked out and the driver had parked the car like double parked in front of our apartment on the side street. I was on the side of the building. I wasn't on Moorpark. He got out of his car walked over and just started pissing on our like the lawn like the lawn out in front of our building like didn't even like find a but he's just like just got out of his truck.

This was the ice cream man. Jesus Christ. Yeah. How many fucking kids are having just like like snow cones handed them with piss hands. Yeah. This fucking filthy guy. God. That's so vile.

Yeah. I guess I don't know the ice cream man. He's a freak it turns out. I get that you're in a profession where it's maybe tough to find a public restaurant. Oh wait a minute. Do you know the ice cream man? It's not do you know the ice cream man. Do you know the piss hand man.

Yeah. Are there any are there any chain restaurants Steve from California? Wait hold on a second. No. I go for it. I just had a thing that's really good on a hot day. Okay. I want to hear it.

Typical thing but then but it but it is actually better when it's hot is a nice cold glass of lemonade. Yeah. It really is bad. A root beer float. Oh man. That's great. I sometimes I'm with you but I sometimes struggle with dairy when it's hot.

It's a little bit but I will I will love like a slurpee like like some sort of slushy dirty. Yeah. You know the frozen lemonade in amusement park is sometimes the most refreshing thing you can get. Yeah. The oh fuck why the dole whip. Yes.

A Disney land. That's one of my favorite Disney. That's really good. Yeah. Or an orange Julius at the mall. Aren't Julius is so hard to find but I would drink them constantly if they were near me. They closed down and I think they did they merge with Dairy Queen. Is that who they I think I think they have hybrid Dairy Queen Orange Julius now there's

no Dairy Queen there. Why isn't there a Dairy Queen in like you know like there aren't a lot in LA that the closest one I think is the Fox Hills Mall which is yeah. Yeah. Yes. I think that's where they shot like Jackie Brown like the most but the yeah the back to your boring question. Nick I'm sorry.

No I wonder I was we were going we're talking about Orange Julius is I was going to say I saw Don Cheadle at Orange Julius and it was one of my favorite like celebrity sightings because I was my wife and I Natalie were in line at an ATM and we realized Don Cheadle was in front of us. We're like well that's Don Cheadle and didn't say anything. And then we got up to the ATM and we took our turn and then we went up to Orange Julius and Don Cheadle was in line there was like he did the exact same thing we did. Wow.

Went to the ATM to get money for Orange Julius. That's cool. Yeah. Very exciting. The similarities end there. So let's talk California a little bit. Yeah. You know people think in and out burger Del Taco a lot of chains started out in California.

Do you have any favorites any any any regional fans for sure. There was Del Taco I loved and there was also at one point there was a chain called Nogles. Oh yeah. Which was I believe the story was the man who owned all the Del Tacos if you want to if you're looking this up I think he got a divorce and his wife took some of the chains or some of the franchises and turned them into their own place that were called Nogles. Right. And it was almost the exact same recipe.

Yeah. I feel like this is some N.A.U.G. so it was a Del Taco lore I should know is such a Del Taco. Nogles. N.A.U.G. L.A.S. I think. Yeah. And Nogles is wait it is like there are no more.

In fact I remember speaking we were talking about tall John earlier. Him and I always talk about Nogles because he's from like the Palm Springs area and about a year ago they opened a Nogles up for the first time in like 20 years in like Rancho Cucamonga or something and John and I were going to go and then we saw in the news like halfway through their first day they ran out of like beans because the line was so long at the door. Jesus. Yeah.

Did you find it? So yes. So it's kind of like a Del Taco. It's exactly like Del Taco. Okay. It's apparently merged with Del Taco at this point and all the previous locations have been converted to Del Tacos. Yes.

The ones that weren't closed down. But it was founded by a Del Taco partner named Dick Noggle. Which is an insane name. I've got a Dick Noggle. A Dick Noggle. That's like one of the names Mark Wahlberg tries out in Boogie Nights before he lands on Der Diggler. We're on to something.

The Dick Noggle. Dick Noggle. Yeah. Just go with Richard. Richard Noggle. So yes. I don't see anything about the divorce. Yeah.

Okay. That was a lore then. Noggle's lore. So Noggle's but it was very similar to a Del Taco. Exactly the same. Exactly the same. I think Dick Noggle's cool. I bet he's a cool guy.

It's a cool name. I always love that. You like that Del Taco? You should come over. I'm Dick Noggle's. I open this place. You like Del Taco? Just like Del Taco.

She's just good. She's just good. Only were called Noggle's. It's only one word instead of two. I'm Dick Noggle's. Hey come on down to Dick Noggle's Noggle's restaurant and fast food chain. We got beans and tortillas. That's all you need to know.

I like the Dick Noggle's. He's a scumbag. He's a scumbag. I hope that was like a verbatim radio spot from 1971. So you're out here in Atlanta now. You've worked some time in Atlanta. We were talking a little bit while we were waiting for this, the restaurant where you ate at today.

Yes. The chain is going to be revealing. Doe Boyz presents. What is it? The ATL is what we sell on. ATL. Oh my God. ATL right?

What's that? ATL right? Atlanta? Yes. But our strain pun is the ATL. It's like eating. Right. Yeah.

So if you didn't get it, it's not. ATL, I get it now. I'm slow. But the reason you didn't get it now is because it's bad. Yeah. No, no. It makes total sense. With your...

October. October. Yeah. This is the first time we haven't really made it a... There's no oct in there. It was hard to come up with an Oktoberfest-esque portmanteau that involved... Hotland Fest. Yeah.

It just didn't really quite track. And then that we're calling an Oktoberfest 2019, the AT... Colin, the ATL. Steve, you are the... Steve started yawning. No, it's been... I've been working nights. You're the first guest, so we could change this before it starts, if you have a better...

ATL. Nogglefest. Rocktober. Dick Nogglefest. Good work. Dick Nogglefest 2019. Dick Noggle. So...

No, ATL is good. I like that. Yeah, it works. I wouldn't go so far as to say good, but it gets the job done. Or can you expand it to Georgia and not just state Atlanta? We could. Georgia on my tongue? Georgia on my tongue.

What the hell? That's not even close to Oktoberfest. The Oktoberfest is the thing we're trying to get it close to. Oh, yeah, I guess so. I forgot about our mission statement. Well, what is... What's Atlanta? What's Georgia?

Like there's the Show Me State, there's the Golden State, it's the Peach State, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. There's not really a Peach thing to work out. It's my fault. Weigher, you flew here. Weigher and Emmer... Emmer, Jesus, sorry, Emma.

Weigher and Emma, oh my God. Weigher and Emma flew here last night to record these episodes, so thank you, Nick, for coming on. Of course. Our pleasure. We're going to talk a little bit about Atlanta Eats, because you've spent some significant time here. I haven't spent much time here, but you were talking about a bunch of different places.

Lots of great places. One place you mentioned is a pizza place. Antikos. Antikos. Tell us about Antikos. I don't know what the style is, but it's one of the best pizzas I've ever had. I think it's more of a traditional pizza, too. It's not like Detroit or Chicago style deep dish.

It's like the bread is almost like that big, bubbly, bobbly bread. But they make it right there. I mean, you sit in the room where they're making the pizzas. It's amazing. I don't know what style it is, but it's like a, is it Neapolitan Nick? I don't know. That is a style. I don't know if that's what it is.

But it's like the thin crust, like a wood fire oven, sort of, like a charred crust or whatever. You know, there'll be little dark spots on it where like a, it's like burnt, you know what I mean? The little crispy burnt stuff. So Antico, every year for my birthday, I go to Desano, Nick, you. If any Doughboyz fans want to crash it, if you know Mitch's birthday, we don't go the night of my birthday a lot of times.

Also, if when you come and crash it, you'll notice that Weiger isn't there. I came, hold on, I came four years in a row. I told you, I missed last year. You came four years in a row. None stop. Yeah. Yeah. For four years.

Like one of those people that has the hiccups for like a decade, it's like, I'm just coming. And he was still just straight faced, not saying anything. I'm coming right now for four years. I attended your birthday gala, which is often a multi-day event, several years in a row. You're one of those guys. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That is not the truth. Last year, by the way, last year, last year, the one you didn't go to was the one where

I was like, hey, let's go out for drinks on Saturday and then on Sunday we'll go get pizza and a movie because a lot of people don't. Some people don't like to drink and then other people try like, so I'm like, open up to it. And then it was the thing of like for the drinking night, like we went to a karaoke place and like no one really came. And then the next day, I mean, why are you didn't come to either of them? I explained why. It's because my lovely wife Natalie was involved in a race in Long Beach.

Racing away from you. I mean, if she knows what's good for her, no, she had a bike race to compete in, not compete. It wasn't like, you know, like she wasn't trying to go for the gold or anything. But it was like a race. And so we went down there to stay in a hotel the night before and I was there to support her. That's a reasonable reason to miss your friend's birthday party. All right, that's fine. But you're still bitter about it.

You haven't been like, yeah, yeah, that's because it's fun to be mad at you. That's all you had to say. But anyway, you were saying that for your birthday, usually we go to Dishonos. I think another year you just didn't come because you didn't want to. I can't. I routinely I come to your birthday when I'm invited. You're a fucking liar. You're a bad friend. I'm going to come to your birthday when it's convenient.

It works, but it works out in my favorite. I will be at your birthday. So Antico you're also I won't get into it. It's fine. I don't really care. I just like giving you a hard time. That's all it is. It's fine. Did Natalie? How did Natalie do in the bike race? She did great. All right, good. Natalie rules. Yeah, suck. Antico was a place that the guy from Dishonos went and visited it. Right. He liked it so much that he was like, can I buy this concept?

And then he bought the concept and they created Dishonos. Dishonos. If you go to kind of the kind of the Dick Noggle's method, it is kind of it is. Dishonos is a Dick Noggle. Dick Noggle. It is a very much a Dick Noggle situation. It's if you if you went in there, you would think it was like almost the same exact thing. Oh, cool. I just looked it up. The founder of Dishonos was Rick Noggle's. Rick. Weird. He's ripping off Dick Noggle's.

Rick Noggle's. I don't know, Antico's deal, but it's one of the people saying it's one of the best pizza places in Atlanta. What do you get there, Steve? Do you have a pizza go to? At Antico's? I'm trying to remember. I didn't go the last time I was out here. The first time I went was with Chris Sullivan, who he's on the show. This is us and he was Taserface and Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Oh, right.

And we had a day where we were going to try and go to a bunch of different restaurants like a food crawl. And so we didn't need a ton at each place, but we got a big, I think just a standard pepperoni at Antico. Split it and then went to a place called Holmen and Finch in the Pond City Market, which is one of my favorite all time burgers. I think in Pond City, it's called H&F. Okay, yeah. And that place is great. Got it with an egg on it and it was, I love an egg on a hamburger. What else is on that burger? On that hamburger?

Yeah, yeah. I got just a straight cheeseburger, but with egg on it. Pretty simple. Yeah. And they got great milkshakes. And then from there, we went to Fox Brothers. That's another place you mentioned. Barbecue, which is off the charts.

I hate bringing up barbecue because whenever you bring it up in a town, if you are with 10 different people, 10 different people will give you 10 different restaurants that they think are the best barbecue. I feel like there's also no food in America with more regional elitism. Like someone from Carolina will be like, you can't even get good barbecue in Atlanta. And I'm like, I ate there last weekend and it was fucking delicious. Yeah. Like we went there, I got here a month ago and me and a couple friends went to Fox Brothers and then there was a convention going on downtown like a Comic Con.

It's called Dragon Con. So we went back to the convention and there was a girl there working with us and she's from Atlanta and she's like, where'd y'all eat? We're like, oh, we went to the Fox Brothers and she's like, I go, what are you talking about? She's like, it's not the best. What's the best? Right. And she names a place and then this other guy was like, what are you talking about?

No, that's not the best place. It's like, that's the reason I hate bringing up barbecue. And also, you know what I gotta say? Barbecue isn't even the best food. I'm sorry. Oh boy. I'm going to upset some people with that, but is barbecue your, I like pizza more than barbecue.

You're going to be roasted. May they roast me? It's all a mood for me. Yeah, there are some times where I'm like, I'd rather go get a pizza. Yeah. It's good. Barbecue is good. I do like barbecue.

Here's the thing that I would say that every time I feel like I get barbecue, the presentation is an element that maybe can be off-putting. Like if you're not in the mood, cause it's like, I feel like even a nice barbecue place, it's just like, there's just like a spool of paper towels on the table. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like there's not like a place where it's like, oh, this is a, you know, those are for, you know what those are for, right?

What are you implying? People are busting loads. Barbecue. Jesus Christ. That's what that's for. I was in Austin earlier this year and everyone's like, you got to go to Frank. I think it's called Franklin's. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Franklin's, yeah. And I got there and I was staying with a friend and he's like, you really want to go there? He's like, you have to show up at like eight in the morning and wait like four fucking hours, get people, bring lawn chairs. And the place doesn't close until they're out of meat for the day. Right.

Yeah. And a lot of times that's like by noon, it'll run out. And I'm like, no, I don't have to eat there. He's like, this place is like blacks or whatever it's called. He's like, this place is great. And I'm like, let's go there. Yeah. What was the name of the barbecue town we went to?

I always forget it. You're the one who took us there. I forgot. Kansas City. No, there's a place in Texas that I'll figure it out. But it's like a barbecue town. It's like it exists just to have three different barbecues. I don't, wait, I don't even know, Mitch.

We drove, you, you were in charge of driving. You were in charge of getting us there. That's true. It's, it's, here it is. I got it. It's Lockhart. Lockhart barbecue. Oh, that's where Saltlic is.

Oh, okay. Right. Well, it's Smitty's. Oh, Lockhart. Oh, wait, hold on. Tin roof snows barbecue. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry.

Yeah. Crews market. That's the one. We did. We did have, we did have a wonderful time there. The food was delicious. I don't think there is a Saltlic there. I think there's a Saltlic right outside of Austin.

Yeah. This is like a 40 minute ride or something like that. And it was great barbecue. The third place. No one. Yeah. The third place we went to was the place where I saw a, an adult man using a urinal with his pants around his ankles and his butt exposed.

Weird fucking, I saw that in an airport once. What the fuck is that? I don't know. Can I, can I just stick up for this for a minute? No, you can't. I wasn't going to out you, but go ahead if you want to dox yourself. All right. Now I bought new Levi's jeans and I have like two pairs of jeans.

Yes. So I always, oh wait, no, they're not. Yeah. No, I think they are Levi's jeans. By the way, there's a big and tall just nearby. Is it really? Yeah, yeah. I will, I will definitely hit it.

I've been there. Before I go. DXL. It's up in Dunwoody. A couple, a couple of big guys representing in these, these big, uh, superhero and sci-fi movies. That's great. I got your back.

Dunwoody. Um, these are button fly pants. Yes. Yeah. Break those in. You get, but also like it's really hard to with the button fly. It's hard to, I don't pull my pants around my ankle. That's what I was going to say.

It's like, you don't need to expose your ass and it's not like you'd even like squeamish about that. Like, you know, I'm in, I'm in locker rooms. I see, I see Tuckas's. You see Tuckas's. But I'm saying like in the context of like a public restroom, you can like go into a- Tuckastober. Tuckastober.

That's a theme. Uh, we're going to be talking about juicy doubles all month. We're going to talk about food that makes you shit. Tuckastober. Tuckastober. It's kind of our year round theme, just for you to be my guest. Um, but you got, you, uh, I was going to say, you don't need to do that at a urinal. You can go into a stall if you need to do that.

You know what I mean? I agree with that. I don't know. You might as well sit down at that. Sit down at that one. In fact, that's my routine for a late night, uh, pee is I'll go, I'll sit down because I'm not going to, I'm not going to spray it like, you know, it would have been so funny as if you walked up to that dude while he's peeing in vulnerable and just took out like

if you had a business card or something and just stuck it between his ass, ran out the door. He would never do that again, promise you or just swipe it right. He would never do that. That's for showing your tuckus. You become the weird one. Um, Nick, hold on a second. You sit down.

Do you do sit down when you pee in the, in the middle of the night? Yeah. Cause you get up at like, like you wake up at night, you're groggy. You can't really see. You maybe don't want to turn all the lights on because you don't want to wake yourself back up, which is a problem I have. It just sit down some like that's totally a reasonable thing to do. I want to, I'm sure.

Okay. I get it, but I'm usually hand on the wall in the middle of the night. It's stable. One of the actor's jeans was ripped the other day and a guy was like, Oh, the snake's going to get out. The other guy said this, was it, he was talking about himself. No, he's talking about the actor who's talking about another actor. That's weird.

And I was like, the snake is good. I mean, it just seems, I just say it's really big. Yes. I imagine that that guy with the torn jeans has a huge dick and I think it's probably going to slither out of his pants and bite somebody. I just have an issue with it. Right. It should be like a turtle head or something.

Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Do you watch righteous jumpstones? I noted, but do they, do they make that? I've seen the first episode. No, there's a guy who comes out in the morning and he's just wearing a shirt and just the head of his wiener is just hanging below the shirt. It's really funny.

That's more accurate. That's a more accurate description. There was this rumor of a kid at another high school who was, he was, I'm trying to remember exactly the mechanics of the story, to tell the story without saying the guy's name, but let's call him Jesse. This guy named, this kid named Jesse, maybe his real name, because I couldn't think of a suit in him, but this kid, this kid Jesse, and like, you know, he was just like a kind of a jacu went to Wilson High and he was at a sleepover and what I heard with the, the

story he heard second hand is that he got up and he had morning wood and it, and the kids were still were like, it's so fucking big and his, he had like huge like morning wood and then he was like calling attention to it and he said, Oh, down boy, down boy and was like heading his own, it's like, it's fucking disgusting. I do love that scene in 40 year old virgin at the very beginning, the montage of him getting ready in the morning and he's like, got morning wood and he's like, trying to lean forward enough to point it. No set from that wood.

So you also mentioned poor Calvin's poor Calvin's like a tie place. Yeah. Have you been there? Yeah, I have. It's great. What do you, what do you, what do you get from poor Calvin's and what's, what's that experience like for somebody who hasn't been there? I've only been there once.

I went there last year when we were doing bright burn and we kind of got a bunch of stuff for the table. So I don't know what it was all called, but I got a pretty standard like pad tie. Right. Um, I love Thai food. Oh, me too. This place was on fire, man. It was really good.

A lot of good food in Atlanta. I'm finding out. Yeah. That's, that's one of the things. It's surprising. There's so much good Thai food in LA, but I love Thai food so much that I'm like, that's like, I'm like, oh, I'm very curious about that. Have you gone to Jit Lada?

I love Jit Lada. I mean, I love Jit Lada. Jit Lada is great. And then it's my favorite. Yeah. It's my favorite still. So the, the owner, um, first off, Russ and P chef, too, who used to work there. But, uh, the owner jazz, she has an Instagram, which is super, it's private,

but it's super entertaining if you get it because she just posts celeb pictures and she's, she's over the moon about and she's awesome and she's a great host. Matt Groening is there in every other. Matt Groening is there so much that he's like animated like three episodes worth on the tables. He's been there. He's been there so, so many times with a 12 year old girl having to wash his feet and horrible, horrible, Epstein story.

Um, but anyway, that just makes him just seem just like it's like his feet were fucking disgusting, but anyway, he so, but, but she'll like, she followed me back, which I was very excited by, and then she'll sometimes just randomly comment on my Instagram, like, like handsome, miss you, Nick Weiger. And I'm like, this is great. Wow. That's what I want from, from my restaurant manager. What does Natalie think about all this?

She doesn't care. I don't think she follows me on Instagram. Why would she? So, okay. So, um, we're here in, we, we went to the Flying Biscuit Cafe, which none of us had been to before. This is a place that was founded in Atlanta in 1993. It's got, now has 25 locations across four states, four states in the

Southeast and their big signature is breakfast all day, although they do have some lunch options. Uh, we were waiting there for some time. Steve, you were very, very nice to get there a little early, put our names in. It was a 45 minute wait. They told you, we ended up waiting for over an hour. Yeah. Yeah, you were there before.

It was packed. You're our name in for us. You, you, you truly helped. We were all standing out on the sidewalk sweating. And we were just like, can't wait to get into that AC. Uh, basically out of patio, which I think might have been better. I think inside maybe is an air condition. There was a big crosspan in the window.

Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think it could have been all right, but it was that sad thing of we were still outside. We never truly got the humidity. It was good to be in the shade, but yeah, the humidity just doesn't quit. Yeah. What a kind of a strange setup to that restaurant.

Didn't you think Nick? It wasn't figured out. They seemed to have two different areas in this particular location. Went to the, I think at the midtown one is what we went to. And they had like one like sort of wall off area. And then we were kind of out in this patio, but it was also in clothes. Yeah. These, these big, these big wide open windows.

Uh, and while we were waiting, Mitch, you got recognized by a subway employee. That's a sandwich artist. Very exciting. That was very nice. Yeah, it was nice. I don't even know. It was a very, uh, it was a very strange interaction. We were standing and I mean, like my fault as well.

But like, uh, it's, well, yeah, we go ahead. We were standing, we're standing outside of the subway, and then this guy just comes out in the, in the uniform. He goes over to talk to you, and it seemed like you were in trouble. It felt like I was, I really thought I was sitting on a scooter. I was sitting on a scooter. I was so lazy. I was the only one who sat down on a scooter that wasn't being used.

One of those, one of the, one of the, what do they call like a lime or bird equivalent, yeah, over the third one. A seeded, yeah. Yeah. And I thought he was like, are you Mike? And I was like, yeah. And I was like, uh-oh, what am I not supposed to be on the scooter? And he was like, you're Mike.

And I was like, yeah, he's like, it took him a second to be like Mike Mitchell. Yes. And I was like, yes. And he was like, oh, and I say, and then I never knew what it was about. It could have been dough boys. I don't know. I don't have no idea. Yeah.

We, we, it was never determined where he recognized you from. It could have been dough boys and he just doesn't like me. Or I'm just, or I'm just so non-descript that he had no idea that it was the guy from the photos. I believe both of those things. I induce face blindness on people and people who don't have it. So it looked like the default model from an RPG. So you were, but, but he was, I think it was from love.

That's my assumption because usually when you get, when you get recognized, it's from there, your Netflix show. Yeah. It was very, it was very nice. It was super nice. We were saying that like, uh, like, uh, an Emma, Emma had noticed that the emmer, I should say, uh, noticed that there was, uh, that they were in there, not really doing anything.

And I was like, oh yeah, no one. That's a funny thing to think about of like a subway on a Saturday at noon is probably like the last place anyone would want to go for a launch or brunch or anything. No one's branching at Subway. Yeah. Yeah. And he, it seemed like he had, because he came out and said hello and it

seemed like it didn't disrupt his work day at all. So that was very nice. That was a nice data to start the nice way to start off the branch for me, Nick. Yeah. And then so we finally got in there and we sat down. It was a full, it was a full, a full hour. The place was packed. And like there were people, you know, everyone's waiting outside and,

and all the tables were full. The staff seemed very harried. I would describe our server as nice, but she was almost at the end of her rope. You know what I mean? Like she was like really like clearly overworked. It was tough because also like, hmm, I want to, I want to say that like it was a tough environment. There was very busy, but then also I think that maybe she didn't do the best job.

There were some, I have to say something. We're not going to say her name. No, yeah, she spilled the Emmer's drink. She spilled Emmer's drink on the table. And that was kind of, that was even like the, but there was just stuff that we asked for that never really came, but it was some omission. It was very chaotic. It was chaotic.

She seemed like she maybe had too many tables. Yeah, I feel bad for her, but one, one thing that happened early is, so there's an, there is a menu item, which I was intrigued for on the beverages side. They have a bunch of festive cocktails. That's what the heading is on the menu. Festive cocktails. I felt bad that she's, I said she wasn't doing the best job. Maybe she had a bad day and maybe it was the chaos.

You explain it in a way where it didn't seem like you were saying she's bad at her job. Yeah. Yeah. So the, one of the items they have, they have a bunch of different mimosas, which are just various configurations of juices and champagne. They have a midtown blast, which is a mimosa made with Powerade. And I really wanted to try it and they said they were out of Powerade. So I had to opt for the tropical mimosa, which was her recommendation, watermelon and pineapple

with champagne. It was fine. I will say they give you like a big ass, like a fucking, it's not in a champagne flute. It's like a, a juice glass of mimosa and our friend, Mary Lynn, who was with us was said it was like, it's basically like a trough of mostly, you don't realize how fucked up you are getting from it until like, you're like three quarters of the way through.

It's a lot of alcohol. Are you fucked up right now? I'm fucking smashed. I'm about to tell you what I really think. No, I mean, I'm fine because we had a bunch of heavy food and then I had a bunch of water and so, but it was more alcohol than I expected. You got a Bloody Mary. I got a Bloody Mary.

How was that? It was all right. It was a little, it felt a little like a vodka heavy at the top. Right. It wasn't like maybe mixed too well. That's it. It felt like she, it felt like maybe our server was responsible for making our drinks and she made them in a hurry.

Yeah. Or maybe they were sitting. I don't know. There was, there was something that happened. Right. And then, and Steve, what did you get to drink? I just got a standard iced mocha. How'd that treat you?

It was good. Which also seemed like it was maybe a problem when you ordered it. It was a weird situation where it was like, can I get an ice mocha? And she's like, um, hmm. It was like, we usually serve these hot. She came through. It was good. Yeah.

Yes. The drinks, the presentation on the drinks. I mean, who cares really? But I did think that it wasn't going to be like, like, uh, I think the way that maybe Steve, maybe you said this, but it was like soda cups. It was like, it was like, like those plastic. It's like when you go to like a stereotypical pizza parlor. Yes.

It was those kinds of like glasses. Let's say Coca-Cola on them. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For a cocktail, it was an orthodox. So give me a lime wheel or something.

Give me a little, you know, sprig of mint. You should be a mason jar. Yeah. Give me some bazaars. Yeah. We also had a situation with a water cup that she referred to as tainted, which was odd. Yes. Yeah.

What was that? I don't know. I forgot to follow up on that. But she, she brought a water and she was like, oh, this one's tainted. And then she left it on our table and then was like, I'll come back for that one. And Mitch, you were about to drink it because it was like, just look like one of the five waters there. I want, I want to drink the tainted one.

I mean, you maybe knew what happened. What, what happened with it? I think she said that the glass was dirty, but she, when she sat it down to take her order, it didn't look that dirty. No. Yeah. But I don't know. And then that was like very not down to serve that water.

She was not. And then that replacement, she took that away. She knew something that we like walking out, someone's hair fell in it or something. Yeah. Maybe. Appreciate it, I guess. All of someone's hair fell in it. Someone's hair fell off.

The entire way. Yeah. Someone's extension. And it took a little while for that tainted water to be replaced, which was fine. Um, you know, again, they were very busy. I mentioned, we were talking about all our drinks. Let's get into the food a little bit. So one thing we got, we can start here.

We got these for the, a shout out to Ian Carmell and all fantasy, everything podcast. We got the, we got some pancakes for the table, organic oatmeal pancakes, three cakes topped with a warm peach compote. That was, there wasn't a compote on this. That was sliced peaches. It was just sliced peaches. It was, it was, that was, I gotta say that that was, I mean, it just also looked bad. The presentation was very sloppy.

And Mary Lynn said that she, she's eaten there a number of times. She said she's seen that order before with actual compote on it. Yeah. I think the kitchen for God's sake. Like maybe they ran out or something. Yeah, it could very well be. Yeah, it was, and it was insanely busy. So that's a possibility, but it did not look great.

And then it tasted just kind of like the peach, I mean, the combo with the peaches, the pancakes were fine. Yes. Pancakes were good. Yeah. The oatmeal pancakes were like interesting and fine. But the peach didn't really deal with me. You know what I mean?

It didn't add anything to it. Yeah. It's not a pancake fruit. Right. Like strawberries or banana. Yeah. Even blueberries on my pancake. But it needed to be in that form maybe that we didn't, that we needed that form.

I think also too, because, and I was suspicious that they didn't bring butter and syrup as a default. Because usually with, and even with a fruit pancake, they'll bring that. And I was like, oh, is this how it's supposed to come? Or did she just forget that? Or what? We had to request it. Yeah, you always get syrup with your Johnny cakes.

I mean, and then from the time that I mentioned it to her, that was like, can we get some syrup and butter? It was probably 10 minutes until it finally came. I have a feeling eating there on a weekday would be a lot more efficient. That place was packed. It was crazy. It was crazy. I did it.

Yeah, I guess I just didn't realize what. Which we were saying is like, it works against a restaurant when, anytime we review it, when it's packed like this. But I mean, there should have been syrup. There should have been butter. And then you kind of got a cold version of it finally when it came. Right. And it was rough.

Also, the texture was nice though. Marilyn had to get up and get Emma a new fork and knife. That's true, yes. There was stuff, look, it was bad. There was bad stuff going on there. There was some service miscues, yes. And then I got the, so yeah, those pancakes were pretty good, but I think just like the cakes themselves were good,

but the missing elements kind of worked against it. I'm glad you just got them as like a thing to share for the middle of the table. If that had been my entree, I would have been very disappointed. Yeah, it would have been a bummer. I got the shrimp and grits. So this is, they call it award-winning shrimp and grits. Yes, which, did they have anything to back that up? Like, or is it just one of those things?

Every restaurant says that shit. Yeah. That feels like some stolen, Valor, right? It is stolen Valor. Neck like you want a Tony Award for these shrimp and grits. Creamy, this is the menu description. Creamy, dreamy, white cheddar grits topped with blackened shrimp and roasted red pepper tomato sauce.

You also get a biscuit with their apple butter, or it's a cranberry apple butter. Is that, that's right? I think so, yeah. Hold on, let me look it up. I want to make sure that I get to see. It was good whatever the hell it was. Cranberry apple butter, that's it.

Yeah, the bis, I mean, we can talk about, do we all get biscuits? I did. I had biscuits and gravy. I thought the biscuit I had was great. And for a place that has biscuit in the name of the restaurant, that's what you want. It was, it was piping hot.

The texture of it was great. That cranberry apples, apple, what the fuck is butter? Cranberry apple butter, that's what I was trying to say. Relax, that was a word I'm looking for. Butter. Host of food podcast, can't think of the word butter. Why is there so, is it because it's the ATL that we're doing that there's so much pressure?

Why are you so worked up? Because I'm fucking smashed, I told you. He's on California time. Yeah, yeah. That, that biscuit. That's the funny thing with Weigar when you travel, we'll go to the East Coast and he's like, ah, I got to go to bed.

I'm like, it's 6pm in California. Oh yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That biscuit was, was great. It was, it was outstanding. You guys, did you guys like yours? Loved it. Yeah, I loved it too.

The gravy was incredible. What was the gravy, what were we wearing? Chicken gravy, which I generally don't eat chicken, but it was kind of sweet and it was hot. It was, and there was tons of it. Emmer got like extra gravy and like, I'm kind of regretting not doing that. You're going to have to stare at it

because I didn't get extra gravy. You didn't? I didn't ask for it. You look like you had more gravy on your spoon. Maybe they liked me better, but I had to stare at it while I waited for my silverware. Yeah, I was, yeah. It made, they maybe they gave me some extra gravy

because they spilled the drink on all of your belongings. On the zoom, actually. It was specifically the zoom bag that got drenched. Oh my God. Maybe she just hates those boys. But they thought I bought that white, that waterproof bag. She could just be, she might hate the podcast and want us to not record.

Yeah, she saw us sit down and she was like, oh yeah. Sabotaging her own restaurant. I mean, the shrimp and grits I thought were very, very good. That the texture of the shrimp was nice. Ton of flavor in those grits. I'm not sure if they all had white cheddar or if that was just the, did yours have white cheddar? It tasted a little cheddar-y.

But I'm not positive now. It was really, you know, the nice crust of the shrimp and the tomato sauce I was skeptical of because it just kind of looked like marinara. They drizzled on top, but it actually had a lot of great flavor to it. I thought that was very, very, it was a delicious entree. I was very happy with it.

And Mitch, how about yours? I did the, oh shit, what was it called? I'll get it. The Benedict. The Benedict, it was like the Southern Benedict. Southern style biscuit Benedict. Split Benedict. Top with pimento cheese, two over medium eggs,

bacon, pollen days, and basil. I'm falling off the reference. I'm falling off the itemized receipt. Which why you're embarrassingly in the ass in front of Steve and Mary Lynn. Why is that embarrassing? You know, that makes total sense, man. All right.

I just was embarrassed. It's a reasonable ass. Yeah. Though the two dorks were talking, you heard, did you bring the itemized receipt? It just sounds dorky. Do they not know we're dorks already? I mean, I don't know.

I just think Steve doesn't think I'm a dork. No, no, you guys aren't dorky. You're all designs. We're sitting in a hotel with microphone. Mary Lynn got herself a salad. Yes. That looks pretty good. She asked for dressing on the side.

It didn't come on the side. It was nice and she got herself some extra lettuce. So she got extra lettuce to thin it out. Yeah. Which is actually kind of, I was like, oh, that's smart. That's a great like. I never thought of that. Well, I guess I'm having soaked salad and it was it was soaked.

It was. I mean, there was a ton of fucking right shitload of dressing on it. Yeah. The southern style biscuit Benedict was was really great. It was a thing of a, you know, like I was like, oh boy, this place is doing a bad job so far. Like I thought my Bloody Mary was was decent. It had a a pickled.

What's it called? I remembered what it was called what it was. Okra. Yes, pickled okra in there. That was was was was pretty tasty. And I thought the drink was it could have been better. Like if it was mixed and it was whatever it would have been better, but it wasn't it wasn't a bad drink.

But like everything had started off a little wonky. Yeah. And then the food came and I was like, well, this is really good. I mean, it was it was it was just a really well done the pimento cheese. I mean, it was a big sloppy mess and there was bacon. That's what you want from that's what I want from breakfast. Yeah. I don't want like a fancy plated fucking presentation.

Right. I want like a pile of food. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, it really it was really just a big slot. I mean, it was I was a little pig boy going and eating my my slop. It was it was it was very sloppy. I got to say mine came with potatoes and I was bummed that it wasn't like hash brown.

Yeah. That is my favorite breakfast side item is hash brown. Oh, hell yeah. Like Waffle House is I think my favorite hash brown. Like just those thin like grated potatoes that like they leave a tad too long on the grill. So one side is like brown and crispy and the bottom side is still chewy and good and buttery.

I love that. That's my favorite. This might be east coast west coast. Well, not now. Everyone on the east coast is going to disagree with me. But Emma, you might you might get this too. But like home fries that are like like potatoes like that, but they're like almost soft and they have like onion in it and they're just like very flavorful and almost

mushy. Sure. That's my favorite. I don't mind that most home fries I get are like hard potatoes almost rock hard. Yeah. And I like overcooked and that bums me up. I had I had a bite of your potatoes and it was it was good. But I agree with you that it was just kind of plain and straightforward.

Yeah, I want greasy diner hash browns. Yeah, I got I had a bowl of grits as my side. So there was there was the egg, pimento cheese, like hollandaise sauce all on this all on a biscuit. Yeah. And then there was a side of grits and the grits were really good. I peppered them up and I like it's quite a bit like how Alan and Carl taught us when we were and when we went to Waffle House, I was mixing the eggs into the grits and it was great.

And I was I was loving it. I also ordered an extra biscuit to just try it with the the what is called the cranberry apple butter or whatever. And I was that I didn't try that. I wish I would have tried it. It was good. It was really I was happy that I got another biscuit because it was kind of hard to tell tell what I mean.

It was just covered in shit. So and and I got some chicken sausage on the side too and the chicken sausage was just fine. It seemed like a featured item. It seemed like it came with a lot of the meals. So that's why I got it, but it was whatever. They were really calling attention to it and the side plate. It just looked like they were too like they're honestly pretty small. Yeah, they look shitty.

I mean, they don't look good. So yeah, I don't know why I they they call too much attention to. Right. But my main course was was was really good. Yeah, it was a really great breakfast. I think that's what the overall evaluation will come down to is despite some miscues and quite a weight. There were the the entrees themselves were lived up to the hype.

But let's get to our final thoughts on this chain. So Steve, here's how this will work. We'll each go around. Yeah. Give your closing argument, if you will, sort of summation of of your thoughts on this chain and then end with a fork rating from zero to five forks. Your guests will begin with you. I will definitely eat there again.

I'm not I tend to not go to like popular brunch places on the weekend. Yeah, it's just I hate waiting in line. I would go to this place on a weekday any time. Like I'm sure when it's less crowded, it's in your waitresses are less flustered. Service probably way better. I think that you could have like an A plus plus meal there on a Wednesday morning. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I don't know how later they open.

Is this like a late night dive or is it like the hours of the location we were at? I think was it was until 9 p.m. That's everywhere. That's my one problem with Atlanta and Georgia in general is like in Fayetteville where I'm staying right now. It's like everything closes like eight. And when I was here in Atlanta, when I first got here, I was like, oh, well, I got to take advantage of this.

And like my first night, I was like, all right, where am I going to go eat? And like everything was closed. It was like nine o'clock. That's like you're stuck with waffle. I say stuck like that's a bad thing. You got waffle house or fast food. But I would give this maybe the I love the biscuits and great. I love biscuits and gravy.

I'd give it like four out of five. Wow. Four forks. Very good score. Yeah. It looks I'm just just browsing a few locations. It looks like they generally close at nine or they close in the afternoon. All right, Mitch, go ahead.

So my one question is why is it called the flying biscuit is also a question. I just don't understand because the biscuit is so light and fluffy or something. Because the biscuit isn't actually, I mean, I thought the biscuit was very good. Yes. But it's kind of dense. It's not like it wasn't like a flaky light biscuit. You know what I mean? I'll do some research.

I haven't written my intro for this one yet. I'll do some research. I'll figure it out. You haven't written the intro yet. No, we found out we're going to go to this chain this morning. That's when you decide it. What am I supposed to do? I was shooting.

Oh, I know that's why I was taking it easy on you. You had other things to do. Fight in front of Steve. Um, I, man, the hour wait and the service miscues really, really hurt this place. It really does. And I kind of want to go like 3.99999 forks. But that biscuit Benedict was so good and I can't I attribute the weight to the fact that it's Saturday.

Yes. Also, we're in a very trendy part of town. We're in a trendy part of town. I'm going to go for forks, Nick or forks. It's, it was, I mean, the entrees just were really good. And yeah, that's really what it boils down to. The atmosphere is like whatever. I wish it was.

There was a C. This is a good fall and spring restaurant. But, but yeah, no, I, I, I enjoyed the food and great company too. We had a great time. I will say this and I'm going to, I'm going to agree with the consensus here. And, and, and I will, I, you know, with the thesis of this podcast is how is this play, how is this chain? Are they succeeding at what they're attempting to do? And this place, again, biscuits in the name, their biscuits are fucking great.

And I think this is a, you know, for an all day breakfast joint that's a little on the upscale side in terms of price point, even though the presentation is a little bit more down home. I think the food absolutely delivers. And I think if you were out of town and your friend from Atlanta was like, hey, we got to go try this place and you went, you would not be disappointed. You'd be like, holy shit, that was very good. And for that reason, we're in the hand holding club and this flying biscuit cafe is in the golden plate club for forks.

Yeah, but it was, it was the food is great. And I'm going to give it a pass on how busy it was because for the same reasons that you guys said. Yeah, very, very good. And if there's a, if there's an Atlanta version of Dick Noggles out there who wants to rip this off, I think it would be a good idea. Yeah, wouldn't he? You know, not as long as the snow waiting, flying Noggles to go out the way. You got to see my crank though.

Everyone who walks in the Noggles has to look at my crank. Jesus, man. Steve, A.G., thank you so much for joining us. Absolutely. We're going to let you get out of here. Anything you would like to plug at this time? Keep your eyes out for the Suicide Squad in two years. This movie is literally not coming out till August 2021.

Wow, but it's going to be good. That's right, dude. Awesome. Hope I'm still alive. It's been reported that you play King Shark in the movie. That's a report, which is really cool. I wonder what I wonder what I have for you. Probably can't say anything about what do you think a King Shark would eat, Nick?

What do you think a big good King Shark meal is? Chum. Good. All right, cool. Chum. What the fuck was the point of this? Chum. I don't know.

You brought blood and guts. It's very exciting. I'm excited for 2021. We don't know if we'll be the other Suicide Squad. Nick and I will be alive at that point either. We are. If we are, we're going to be in the theater checking you out. People are going to look back on this episode and be like, wow,

they were just telling like they just somehow knew. Yeah, all three of them. They weren't going to be around. Only Emmer is alive. Steve Agy, thank you so much. Thanks, guys. We'll take a break. We'll be right back with more Doe Boys.

Welcome back to Doe Boys. Steve Agy left. He realized what podcast he was doing. Got the fuck out of here. Mitch and I and Emmer hanging out. This isn't the chef podcast with... One of you isn't David Chang? He didn't even open the door.

He went right through it. Yeah. I forgot the name of... What's his name? John Thavreau. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. Got it right when you try to remind me.

Piece of shit. Steve had to leave because we... Because we took as a full hour to get into the flying biscuit. Yes, we took away. He gave a very generous window of his time and we ended up going up against it because we had to wait so long. He gave us like five hours. He gave us a lot of huge...

I mean, it wouldn't take us five hours. No, I'm saying he gave us a window of five hours. He gave us a window. Yeah, he gave us a substantial window. Yeah, and we fucked up. We used most of that window. We used most of it. He said 12 to 4.

We met up at 12.30. This show has a lot of people to ask of people. It's a lot to ask. It's a big ask. It's bad. It's a big ask of everybody. It's a bad format. It's not bad.

Look, people getting mad at us for saying it's a bad podcast. Look, I think it's one of the best fucking podcasts out there, baby. We know we got solid gold coming out of our mouths and into your ears. But A.G. is great. We'll have him back on. I mean, he'll say no next time. He's been through it now. He's not going to want to do it now.

Maybe he'll say yes if we pick a restaurant with A.C. I mean, I agree with that. No A.C. was really... Now I'm very tired, Nick. It's rough. The whole time we were standing outside waiting, I was like, it'll be fine because once we get inside, it'll be air-conditioned and it'll cool off and that didn't happen.

It's not the case. It was just as hot if not maybe more hot. Yeah. By the way, I'm wondering if this thumping club music is being picked up at all by our mics. I don't know where that's coming from. I don't think so. It's super low end.

What the hell is that? I think when we were walking back, we saw that venue sending out an outside concert. I bet it's that. Oh, some people are outside having fun. Outside concert. It's so hot. I know.

Maybe it's the rest of my cast members. I don't even want to stand out. I had a little like dance outside. Yeah. Jesus on Nick. We should say that first of all, the htl. I want to say just say right off the bat. It's bad.

You're referring to the the gimmick or the name theme this month. I mean, we have no other option. I get it. I think the theme is pretty good. I think we salvaged. We had a very good thing. Can I talk about what the theme is going to be? No, I think you should save it.

I think we should do it next year. I'm going to save it for a year. Yeah, I think you should know. Now give people like I don't even remember what it was. I know we're not going to remember it by next year. I will 100% remember it. I've already got it slotted in. You remember even the entire thing?

I remember all of it here. Here. Say it and then we'll bleep it. Okay. It's very good. Yeah, it is. It's it's extremely good. It's your idea.

You say I don't use your ideas. We use your ideas a lot. This is a very good one. You know what's bullshit. I'm complimenting you on it. The Philadelphia cream cheese I was reading online. Yeah, people were like not from Philly. No, people were like, I mean, also yes, it's not from Philly,

but that doesn't matter you nerds. Does Mitch know it's not actually from Philadelphia? Why do they call it Philadelphia cream cheese? Does Mitch know that Pace Picanti doesn't actually get mad that other salsas are from New York City? I don't think he knows that. One thing that they said was does Mitch know the Kebler Elbs aren't real?

I think he thinks they're real. Everyone thinks you're like fucking the dumbest guy. Yeah, no shit. This is your fault, you asshole. It's Weigar's fault. They were like extra points if it's whipped or it's chived. They're like that seems like a Weigar line. I think Weigar gave them that.

I wrote that line myself. Yeah, I wrote the I've had that song on my head for a year. I'm not a dumbass. I know it was your baby said go for it. I thought you were genuinely surprised that Mitch was doing it and not that we were all singing it the entire way through T.C. Yes, that's that's what I bring as an actor. I can feign surprise.

It was great. You sang it Carl Hopton for a verse. It was delightful. Brought the house down and then someone was like if Mitch puts like a bit of effort into it, you agreed with this point. Yeah, that was my comment. That's one of my alt accounts and then they they mentioned like a thing from like a what was remember I sent you the

screen grab of it. The other example they had of was like a oh your Tom Brady ad was my Tom Brady ad from a decade ago. It's like what you don't think of what is that he was just point that that commenter was just pointing out something else. They saw you in that they like okay. That's all that's all it was. It was always night.

They were they were being nice and they were being nice. Look, I love all our listeners man. I do and we were bringing one of the best podcast in town. Oh, baby. Pipe down. The old just honey. The old honey. The HTL is good is good.

You almost said good enough, which I would have agreed with. It's good enough. No, it's it's why we're so the theme is and we may not have expelled this out as explicitly early on when we were trying to get into it because of the time crunch. But the theme is we're going to be going to a series of Southern restaurant restaurants that you can only get in the South that aren't available in in on the West Coast where we live.

And so we you know that we're going to be hitting up five of those this month because they're five Thursdays in in October. We might get to some that people have been asking us about for a long time. It might be in some big ones and we're going to be getting some guests out here that we might normally get. That's going to be a lot of fun and I already feel like shit. Yeah, we already feel we want to die. Do you feel awful?

I shot it. Yeah, Keith Brooks, who's who was working on the movie. He gave me a list of places at Fox Brothers, American Deli, Iron Age, the Majestic, Umisushi, Buford at this a couple places at Buford Highway, Tacos Del Rey, Beijing, Kebabs, Faux 24, Grindhouse Burger, Savage Pizza, Joystick. He told me all these places, Nick. And I mean, we recited all those from memory.

It's impressive. You put effort into something like memorizing restaurants. Jesus Christ, there's a big. There's a big list of a I want to sell city kitchen Nick already, but there's places and I'm sure that we're going to hear from people about where they want us to go. Oh yeah, people are going to be pissed off that we didn't hit up the place they want us.

We'll fucking go back. Here's the here's what I was trying to say down here sometime. Is that you'll have a chance to go to one of these have a chance to do it. So tweet at us and get angry at us before at once this episode comes up. Yes, if we do live shows down here, we got to do it in the winter. Yeah, I said this is too much. Yeah, this sucks. Uh, anyway, so anyway, so yes, uh, welcome to Atlanta, Nick.

I'm excited to be here. It's my first time as we talked earlier. We discussed earlier. I know why they call it hotlanta. I totally get it. And it's justified and it's earned, but we're got, we've got some more business to do with a podcast where the players play. That's what Atlanta is.

It's definitely where the players play. Hmm. It looks like we won't be playing. Are you going to go to one of those infamous Atlanta strip clubs while you're here? That might be a double for a double. We want to take you song to like magic city. Let's just say when the, when the dough boys play, it's a one player game. It's a solo campaign.

So we've got some really short game. Payed 60 bucks for this. So we've got a, you know, we're going to get some local Atlanta treats. We definitely are, but for now, we got some tour leftovers. We've got some tour leftovers. We've got food. So we're going to decide who you're going to put in your mouth.

It's snack or whack tour leftovers edition. Emma is opening this up for us. Should we just do both tour leftovers or should I save one for today? Let's save one in case we desperately need more content. Okay. All right. Okay. So we've got some cow chips.

These are chocolate covered potato chips. Do you have, did you write down who we got these from? Nope. Tweet us. Someone on the road gave them to us. I might have this written down. I think they gave it to me. Emma's going to look it up.

I'm going to open these up. It's been a chaotic couple of weeks, Nick. These really do. I mean, they are as advertised. These look like chocolate covered potato chips. They've got some ridges to them. I'm going to take a pick of these right now. Oh, like ruffles.

Like ruffles. No, I can write this down. Someone tweet it. Have you had these before, Mitch? I have not, but how do you feel about chocolate covered snacks, Nick? Are you a fan? I'm in favor. I mean, are you talking specifically about, about chocolate covered pretzels?

Yes. Yes. Like a salty snack. Yeah. 100%. Honestly, always works for me. I mean, chocolate covered nuts. I think nuts are just better with the addition of chocolate.

I could, I like regular nuts sometimes, but I'm halfway there with you. I'm going to hand these over to you, Mitch. Are you serious? Yeah. Nuts aren't always better with chocolate. Plain nuts? Sometimes you want just like a regular nut. Sometimes you want something savory.

Sometimes you feel like a nut. Yeah. Sometimes you don't. I'm going to take a bite of this. I'm going into, I'm eating this in bed. So, so when they, when room service changes my bed next, it will most surely look like I shit the bed and the chocolate smears, smears on here. I will say this does not seem to be heavily salted if salted at all.

The chip? Yeah. It seems like the potato is more just texture. Am I wrong? I got news for you. Yeah. These rule. It's honestly, it's not what I expected, but it's pretty damn good.

The chip is not greasy at all either, which, which helps it. That would be too rich if it was like greasy and salty. This is great for sure. I kind of like that it's not salted. Yeah. I'm into this. I mean, I'm not surprised that a chocolate covered potato chip is delicious. Metshina napkin?

Yeah, for my pillow, I got chocolate on my pillow. I'm surprised you don't already have napkins at your bedside. It's going to look like you shit the bed now. It looks like I shit the pillow. Yeah. That's a skill. Wow. It's good.

Yeah. And there's a pretty thick layer of chocolate on these. Like they're not messing around. It's like a decent layer of milk chocolate. I'm not the highest quality chocolate. It doesn't seem like it. And the name, by the way, how cow chips, that's a shit that makes you think a shit. Yeah.

Why cow chips? I mean, they're, they're being cheeky. They're being like, it's, it's, I guess because of dairy is involved in milk chocolate. And so it's on the fucking, you really, you really did get chocolate on your pillow. I got chocolate on my pillow. How often in occurrences have you been here? It's kind of a new record.

Yeah. This has not happened yet. Here we go. I'm going to mop the bed. Pretty good. I think, I think I actually like the crunch to these quite a bit. And I think the chocolate flavor is good. I'm going to go snack.

I think it's a big time snack. I think somebody in Philly gave us these. Oh, that would, that would add up. Um, the cow chips are actually from Philadelphia, you know, this is from Pennsylvania. So I have no idea. Why does that, why does that work out that it's from Philly? I don't know.

Do you know they're from, what are you saying? No, no, you go ahead. Do you know that the cow chips are actually from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania? Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks.

That's helpful. Are you mocking our listeners? Yeah. I mean, you should. Uh. They should be grateful for the solid goal we're giving them. Yeah. I talk about how I got chocolate on my pillow.

Where else can you hear that? You're not going to hear that from Pod Save America. Nick, I have a new, I have a new class for, for, for this month that takes place in Atlanta. I'm going to go, it could be a snack or it can be a hot snack because of hot Lanta. Is a hot snack good or bad? A hot snack is super good. I'm not going to give this a hot snack. I'm just going to snack on these.

They're really good though. Wait. So a hot snack is above snacks. So there's three. Well, I realized that a hot snack sounds like it's spicy. I don't know. It sounds like it's spicy. Yeah.

Well, what, what's a better thing for snack then? I don't know. I don't know. I got one. Yeah. If it's super good, it's snack Lanta. Oh, there you go. There we go.

There you go. Okay. I'm going to say this is, you know what? I'm going to say this is snack Lanta. I like it quite a bit. I like it quite a bit. This is good. These are snack Lanta.

Yeah. I wouldn't have gone hot snack, but snack Lanta. Yeah. It's absolutely a snack Lanta. Do you think people will be mad that we're just featuring the city of Atlanta for a theme month? No, I think it's fine. I think people like the city of Atlanta. Okay.

I think people are down for the big peach. Look, we're doing what we can with what we've got. That's very true. That's very true. Stankonia, they call it. We're here in Stankonia. What is that? Emma.

It's an outcast album. You're too young. Fuck showing my age again. Outcast is like that. That album is probably like as it probably happened in your life at the same point as like the Beatles like white album happened in my life. Don't realize how young you actually are. I think this is a, yeah.

I mean, we will put on Stankonia instead. What'd you say? I think I maybe put on Stankonia instead of the white album. That would be your pick. Yeah. Why not? Hmm. Yeah.

That's maybe a little trollish, but Stankonia is good. I think I'd prefer a Mozart's symphony number four. Perhaps with all these the four seasons. Oh God, Stravinsky's the right of spring. I feel like Beethoven's symphony is what you play as Natalie's held captive in your apartment trying to get out of the basement or wherever you keep her. All right.

This isn't a boxing Helena situation. This isn't a silence of the lambs or I've got her trapped in a pit in my basement. She's definitely not here. My wife likes me. She wants to be married to me and the podcast is good. Natalie rules. Yeah. That was snack or whack.

Just like a restaurant with value feedback. Let's open up the feed bag. Today's email comes to us from Kurt Fossum. Kurt writes, who's your favorite chain restaurant mascot? I got to go with a hamburger. Ooh, baby. What a scam. A simple question, but one that requires some thought.

Favorite chain restaurant mascot? I'm mad that he took hamburger because the fact that the hamburger is like a guy who steals burgers is really good. It is very good. And it's a great pun. Yeah. Hamburger is really good. Hamburger is really good.

Did you know there was a hamburger like derivative that I can't even find a photo of? Because it was briefly featured in a campaign. I think it was called the McGriddler. And it was when McGriddles were coming out and he served the function of the hamburger but for McGriddles. And wow. Yeah. I feel like you've mentioned this before and we couldn't find the picture.

Yeah. Couldn't find the picture. Can't track it down. It could be an urban legend. But yeah. And you know what? Honestly, the first thing that came to my mind and I'm not sure if I'm going to stick with this, but I'm going to say it because it's in my head.

Wendy. I think Wendy is an outstanding fast food mascot. That's insane. She's iconic. She's based on a real person. It's kind of creepy. Dave Thomas' beloved daughter. What's creepy about it?

Because she's a little girl frozen in time. Yes. Like Kirsten Dunstin interview with a vampire. Yes. She knows she'll never age. Just so I might as well never let your inner child die. Feed it frosties. I like Wendy.

You're a Wendy's fan. You don't like Wendy. I like. No, I do like Wendy, of course. Wendy's a good mascot. You know, you got the Colonel. I don't think I'm going to go Colonel especially. You know what?

No, it lost. Colonel is creepy. Yeah. The Colonel, especially when they started doing all the new colonels. I didn't like it. It got a little too meta. Even though I like a lot, you know, you like a lot of those actors and comedians, obviously, but and God bless them for taking a paycheck, but I just like that whole campaign.

I'm not super sold on Ronald McDonald. You know, if I was, yeah, I could say Ronald. I like Ronald. If we're just sticking within, you know, Ronald's good. And certainly has a lot of options. McDonald's has a lot of options. If we're just staying within the McDonald's family, the McDonald's playland set, I honestly might put a thumb on the scale for Mayor McCheese,

because I like the old timey mayor with the sash. I like that his heads. It seems to be a burger and that he's like this about him. Yeah, I like it. It's cool. And he's advancing. He's on the he's on the side of good. It seems like it seems like he's a good guy to the hamburglers antagonist.

I mean, the hamburger had his way. There be no McDonald's for the rest of us. Mayor McCheese is trying to fight against that. All right, I get you. I mean, you sounded insane. I mean, there's the where's the beef lady is the earlier Wendy's mascot. Yeah, she's pretty good. You got the, you know, the Noid.

I like the Noid quite a bit. Noid was good. And it was an interesting flip on that campaign and on that notion, because he was the introduced as someone who is against their product. The Jolly Bee Bee. The Jolly Bee Bee is great. I got my answer, though. Yes.

My answer is Little Caesar. Oh, fuck. That's a very good answer. He's very funny. He is very funny. Pizza, pizza. That's what he says. He's just a little shirtless guy in a toga.

Which Harris. Yeah. He's on a very funny tweet that the Little Caesar guy has chest hair. He does. Which is unnecessary, but I think it's very funny. It's a nice little character detail. Yeah. No, I like I'm Little Caesar is my answer.

Yeah. And you know what? It's a good chain. You know, it's just good. It's a great chain. Yeah. Pizza the people. Yeah.

Let us know what your your mascot pick is. Hashtag fast food mascot favorite. Wow. Hashtag fast food mascot flavor it. Oh, there we go. Okay. There's a there's a strained pun for you. If you have a question or comment about the world.

Yeah, that's almost as good as the hamburger. Do you ever see that? This is just like me saying an onion joke, but I want to like do you ever see that the the onion bit about the ham murderer McDonald's is retiring their ham murderer campaign. That's a lot of fun. Yeah.

The onion is funny. Yeah, go read the onion. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you need us at Doe Boy's podcast at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-4636-844. And they get the Doe Boys double or weekly bonus episode. Join the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash Doe Boys.

Next week, the ATL continues. Wow. We will be continuing that all October fest long. Get pumped. Get pumped for more Southern chain restaurants being pumped into your eardrums. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. See ya. Yes. Yes. Until next time, with this move, I'm Mike Mitchell. I'm Nicolay Gabby. See ya.

Hey, baby. I hear the blues are calling toss salads and scrambled eggs. And maybe I seem a bit confused. Yeah, maybe. But I got you, Frank. But I don't know what to do with those toss salads and scrambled eggs. Sources for this week's intro include foodtimeline.org, Biscuits and Cookies, Biscuit Bakers Treasured Mill Moves North by Shalia Dewan,

the Flying Biscuit Cafe Sold from the Atlanta Business Chronicle, an interview with the owners of an Atlanta original, the Flying Biscuit Cafe by Ho Chi, and the Flying Biscuit Cafe website. For a full list of sources, check the show description. On the next Doe Boys double, October fest 2019, the Doe Boys present the HTL continues as we explore the state fruit of Georgia, peaches. Plus, in honor of Mitch's movie, we do an actual ghost draft. It's peaches and scream.

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