Doughboys - The Butcher's Daughter with Zach Cherry

Episode Date: November 3, 2022

Zach Cherry (Severance, The Great American Baking Show) joins the 'boys to talk cherries, Richard Jewell, and baking before a review of The Butcher's Daughter. Plus, the debut of Let's Make a Meal: Zach and Mitchy Make a Porno edition.Source's for this week's intro:https://www.bechtel.com/projects/high-speed-1/https://ifood.tv/facts/233369-what-is-the-history-of-butchershttps://medievalbritain.com/type/medieval-life/occupations/medieval-butcher/https://www.forbes.com/sites/karineldor/2019/05/23/how-the-butchers-daughter-became-a-restaurant-brand-with-buzz/?sh=253255956dfbhttps://www.laweekly.com/heather-tierney-is-the-goddess-of-venice/https://www.thebutchersdaughter.com/about/Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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known evidence of the practice of butchery. While the world's oldest profession is a common euphemism for sex work, butcher may in fact predate Lady of the Evening. Butchery organizations existed in medieval England as early as the 10th century, and the first official butchers guild began in 1272. But while butchery and meat consumption were key to human brain development and the spread of civilization, today we live in the age of high speed rail, at least outside of North America, and many now opt to forego meat entirely for ethical and health reasons. Enter Heather Tierney, a food writer turned cocktail bar owner who parlayed her knowledge of New York's dining scene into launching a flavor-forward plant-based wellness cafe

that felt like a neighborhood hang. Opened in 2012, the restaurant was a sensation among foodies, vegetarians, and influencers, and another New York outpost followed. In 2016, Tierney opened the first West Coast branch in the ultra-trendy Abbott-Kinney district of LA's Venice neighborhood. Her brand success with beach-going locals was such that a 2018 LA Weekly piece about her growing empire was headlined, Heather Tierney is the goddess of Venice. Today, with five locations and hip sections of the Big Apple in Tinseltown, this plant-based juice bar slash coffee shop slash fine dining restaurant serves an affluent health-conscious clientele who also wants to get their drink on. As Tierney has quoted

in her LA Weekly profile, quote, just because you are eating healthy or vegetarian doesn't mean you should be punished by sitting in a bad environment or having boring food. Just don't let the name fool you. If you go to see this butcher, no meat shall you eat. This week on Doe Boys, The Butcher's Daughter. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weigher. Along with my co-host, Mitchell versus the Latrines, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Latrine. Pun on machines with latrines that was courtesy of Robe.

No, I know. It was funny because I feel like family members are like, you gotta watch Mitchell's versus the machines, and I don't think I ever watched it, but... People love Mitchell's versus the machines. I heard it was good. I didn't get to see it. I did choose to see it, but I should watch it. Who did it? Was it a... The director is Mike Rihonda. Was it... Who were the guys who did the solo movie, and then they... Was it the Clone

How? Oh, Lord and Miller, yeah. Lord and Miller? It's like one of their productions, yeah. It's Lord and Miller. I'm sure it's good. I gotta check it out. People like it. Wow, what a start to the show. We haven't seen a movie, but we hear it's good.

Mitchell's versus the Latrines. Yeah. This is your on-ramp for the podcast. This is your... Every episode, there's someone listening for the first time. So this is the show. This is a show my fiance likes. We're trying to remember if we've seen a children's movie. Robby, who said that roast in said, neither fresh nor dated enough to be clever, but here we are.

You guys are the best. Hope the holidays ahead. Do not destroy you. Thank you, Robby. RoastSpooman at gmail.com. Yeah, yeah. Thanks a lot, Robby. Latrine is a... I think of like a big open piss station. Is that weird to say that? Like a big open like... Like, I don't like the idea of a Latrine because like in my mind, I'm like, I got to get my hog out in front of like other people. Right. You know what I mean?

A bunch of soldiers, yeah, a bunch of your fellow enlisted. Yeah, I feel like if you go to like, you know, like Wrigley Field or something, there's like a Latrine, you know, like Fenway. Those old school ballpark urinals with no dividers, but it's not even no dividers. It's just like one long trough. Those are always very demeaning. And like, I always went to those, like as a little kid, I was very self-conscious about going to those urinal troughs.

And then like a preteen saddles up next to me and like, hangs huge hog. And I'm like, fuck, the hell's going on here? Hey, why are you looking at my son's dick? Well, come on, buddy. It's big. It's huge. Piece of shit. Um, the the yeah, it's it's a I think that I believe that Latrine has now been generalized to just mean like a military restroom, like a restroom in a barracks.

So like, you know, you'll go to like, hey, I'm going to the Latrines and there's toilets in there now. There's flush toilets. But but back in the day, yeah, I was just you just you just big a drink. You did dig a big pit somewhere. So like Patton Patton would use the Latrine. Oh, Patton used a Latrine. He didn't give a fuck. It's funny to think of Patton on a toilet. I mean, it's funny to think of anybody on the toilet, I guess,

right? When you think about it. Is there is that a scene in Patton? Is George C. Scott just like fucking pinching a loaf? The big cigar? I haven't seen it. Why should I play it? Should I do a little drop? So I should I play a little drop for everybody?

I believe you must. We have a good guest today, so I don't great guest. And also, like, look, our banter was on fire before we introduced him. Talked about a children's movie. Talked about about a child's dick. Yeah. But I feel I what I was going to say is that I think someone in like the Mitchell family was like, you got to see it.

You got it. Like it's the Mitchells, you know, because that's your name. Yeah. Yeah. So I didn't see it. But I will. I'll see it. We'll do we'll make it a double or some bullshit at some point. Here we go. Wags here is a little drop. No longer in pirate season, Wags. We're on the other side of Yark dobar chest.

Yes, that's right. Yars smooth sailing to. Is that what they? How do you say what is a pirate goodbye? This is we struggle with this. I think it is a vast means like stop. I was using as like hello, but it means but that's what a hoy means. A vast is like stop.

I guess probably thrilled that he didn't have to do some fucking stupid pirate no restaurant. I have a name. I have a name that I would love to cover later. Oh, hell yeah. All right, we'll get your pirate name. This is very exciting. All right, hold on. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to share a little audio Wags for a drop.

Here we go. Here's a little drop. Bring butter latrines as you do this. Jesus. Here we go. What is the bear's situation down there? Because I don't know if I've ever seen a bear's hog. Oh, the huge, huge. Huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge, huge. Bear's hog.

Bear's hog. Well, a thoroughly disrespectful tribute to Coolio. I was thinking the same thing also in the email. Yeah, it's Chad from the Dosecourt Wags. It just says, hi, Chad. RIP Coolio. Love you all so much, Chad from the Dosecourt. We love Coolio.

Sometimes, you know, sometimes tributes happen in strange ways. There's what's known as a VIP latrine, which is that that's a latrine that has ventilation to reduce odor and fly in mosquito breeding. So you've got like a floor plate. That's a VIP latrine. This part, I mean, come on, this sucks. Just going to insult every.

Everyone we adored as children would just insult in some way or they get mad at us. Like they come on the show and get mad at us. Or people get mad at us for having them on the show. Yes. What do you want from us? What are you going to do? Hey, no one's going to be mad about today's guests, though. No, very, very excited to have him from Severance and Great

American Baking Show coming to Roku. Zach Cherry is here. Hi, Zach. Hi. So before we get too far away from that drop. Yes. In the in the world of that drop, was it implying that you spent your whole life living inside a bear's hog?

I guess so. The timing, the timing of you saying bear's hog, it wasn't perfect. So it didn't really cover up the words he was saying. So I'm just wondering if they were, you said it was Chad. Well, it was Chad from the Dose Cord. But let me tell you, if I was living inside a bear's hog, it'd be spacing there because those things are, they're huge. I'm glad this character's back.

The way I thought of it was sort of a metaphorical bear's hog paradise. Like it's like you're surrounded by bear's hogs and you're like, oh, my God, this is, I'm in heaven. That's what I sort of thought. That's what you, that's the clear message you took away from that drop. That's my headbanging, yeah. That's my fan theory.

Maybe that's what Grizzly Man, that's what he's trying to do. Get the bear's hog. When Werner Herzog is listening to that tape at the end, the audio on it is just like, the huge. You must never listen to this tape. Promise never to listen to this. Zach, I do want to talk a little bit about baking and about plant-based eating, but before we get to that, headline here for me.

This is a food show. This happens sometimes with guests. Your last name is a food. Yes. As a man with a name cherry, do you eat a cherry? I love a cherry. I do. Wow.

They're good. Great question. Yeah. I have a follow-up question. This is more hard hitting. Okay. Do you like artificial cherry more than regular cherries? Not anymore.

I definitely used to as a boy, but now I'm ready to claim the true mantle of the actual fruit. I am still team fake cherry. I like fake cherries. I like, give me a cherry slurpee. Oh, that is good. They're good. Cherries are, cherries are, look, cherry, cherry has a lot of

artificial cherry skittles. A lot of, a lot of, there's, there's a lot of great fake cherry flavor out there. Well, also, do you want to throw like a maraschino cherry in there? Cause that is the basis is a real cherry. Wags. But it's been changed the whole game.

I count that as artificial to me. You get that as artificial. Wow. And in, in kind of, in a lot of ways, my opinion is the only one that matters on this. I consider that artificial. So. Zach, you just had maraschino cherry on your side, on your

team, and you toss it out, you don't even need that. They're all on my team. My team is all of them. Do you have a favorite, a favorite like implementation or, or cherry dish? Cause for me, I'll like, I'll go for a classic cherry pie. Love a cherry pie. Honestly, I don't, I don't have one up top.

I just, I think just like a nice good cherry, like the actual just eat the fruit. I've never had the Jubilee, so I can't speak on that. I love strawberry too, but also I think I'm team artificial strawberry. I think I like, I think I like the artificial look. I'm with you there. The artificial flavor sometimes just does a little more than

a little wrapped strawberry candy. That thing. Oh, come on. Oh yeah, that's fun. That's a great one. Oh, like I feel like that's a great old person's little treat is the, the strawberry wrapped candy. Is, is there something with cherry pie that like, you know,

why is we, there's a, oh, do you, I did an apple, apple and cranberry pie for the mash off last year. I did a cranberry tart. Maybe two years ago. I made a, I prepped a can, a cranberry tart. I came out nice. Is there something with cherries that like cut the, you know what I'm saying?

I know like a cherry pie with like vanilla, but that's like really a cherry, slice of cherry pies or anything like any fruit you can mix in with cherry. I'm sure. Yeah. I don't, I can't think of a, I'm sure there's some sort of. Rack, sorry. Apple would go well with that. The podcast is awful.

Sorry, but. I don't know. Well, before we, before we get to you. You know all things cherry, you claim to be the cherry man. No, I said my opinion matters. Not that I know everything about. I'm just the arbiter, but I don't have all the information. I feel like cherry needs to be cut a little.

You need to cut, you know what I mean? You need to cut something in with a cherry. You mean it's intense. It can be a little, a little too much, a little cloying. And they can be a little bitter sometimes, right? Yeah, that's true too. Is tart, are they tart? Are cherries tart?

They can be. You're thinking of Carl. Oh, sorry. I've been calling, I've been calling Carl cherry, cherry tart for a long time. He doesn't like that. Let's talk to me about that. Our side chat. Zach, let's talk about baking a little bit

because you have Great American Baking Show. Are you someone who's into baking? I am, and I do want to get into that. But before we get too far, I have to, I am, I'm a huge fan of the show. I have to put that out there. Wow, been a fan for a long time, been a long time listener. I, in fact, lied to someone important about what I'm doing right now because I wanted to make sure I was here for this.

So please do not reveal when we recorded this. Publicly. Wow. Wow. I like to, I like to think it's like Adam Scott being like, you can't, like, what are you, you're leaving. You have no confidence. We're taking an extra long lunch today because Zach has a medical appointment.

No comment about who it was. I hope he's OK. Or what I'm missing. But that is true. But I came, I came with a few things that I wanted to kind of address before we get into the podcast proper. Please. So, so first of all, I know it's not pirate.

It's not Yard, Yard. What is it? Doe bark, doe bark, chest. I know it's not Yard, doe bark, chest anymore, but I did have a pirate name that I was prepared with in case that came up. So that is Zach Scurvy. Wow. That's good.

And I think that's good because my name is a fruit. So that helps you avoid Scurvy. Also, when you say it, it sounds like I'm saying Zach's Curvy. So I maybe my pirate could be a curvy wife guy, but he's curvy. He's curvy and his wife, curvy or not. You don't know. You just know he's. Yeah, right.

I love it. So that's the first thing I wanted to get. Zach Scurvy, that's the first thing that I literally wrote down that I had to do. Number two, Weiger. Yes, I got to confront you about some misinformation that you have been spreading, that you have inadvertently caused me to spread. Wow. Okay, Richard Joule.

Yes, I learned about this man from this show. I didn't know Richard Joule at all until Doe Boys. He's come up a couple of times. The tale of a true American hero who was pilloried. And according to you, it's for having porno tapes and loving to Jack off. Okay. So, so this is the first I hear of Richard Joule is he's just a humble man who loves to jack off and saved all these people and got blamed because of it.

And I am repeating this because I trust your information. I tell people all the time, the Zanku chicken guy murdered somebody. I tell people all the time, you know, all these details. So I'm going around going like, Hey, Richard Joule, it's so sad what they, you know, did to that guy who loved to Jack off. And like, he had all these porno tapes. It was like normal porno tapes. Then, then I finally watched the movie and the whole movie.

I'm waiting for when is this going to come up? The entire movie. It's all I'm thinking about. I'm like, yeah, 10 minutes in. I'm like, that's probably a little early for, for, you know, for this to drop. 40 minutes in. I'm like, it seems like this would be when it would come up. He's like, he's, you know, on the news now and people are mad at him.

And also my wife is, she's not really watching. She's like coming in and out and I keep saying to her, this is such an amazing story about this guy who loved to Jack off and had all these normal porno tapes. I finished the whole movie, no porno to be found. They don't bring it up once. I ignore all the stuff with Olivia Wilde's character. I have no idea what's going on.

I'm just thinking like, when are they going to like, they're at his mom's house. There's like a closet in the background. I'm assuming they're going to open the door and like tapes are going to fall out. So then I'm like, oh, well, maybe just Clint Eastwood didn't, you know, bring it up. He's like a conservative guy, whatever. And then I look on Wikipedia, there is no reference of Richard Jules porno tapes anywhere. I Google Richard Jule porno.

There's no, there's not even videos of like, you know, him fucking or anything. Yeah, but there's also no starting Mitch. Yeah, exactly. That's not out there. There's no evidence of this. So Weigar, where did this come from? Zach, I remember Nick, I'm going to step in for you. Please. Yes.

In the age of Marvel, you got to wait for that post-credits scene. I did turn off my street as soon as the credits rolled. After the credits, they would be able to porn. Yeah, Weigar, is this made up? No, I remember this from the news. I remember this from the news at the time is that they raided his mother's house. They raided his mother's house where he lived, very much a very much a Mitch situation. And they and they took out a bunch of boxes of his possessions

because they were just confiscating everything, searching it. And part of the thing that came out on like Sienna is like, like he has like a lot, he has an extensive collection of pornography. And I remember that because you recognize the tapes. Yeah, look, here's the thing is that it's really weird. We're like in the top 10 podcasts for history. And we're like, we're behind like hardcore history and stuff like that. We don't know how we got there.

Wait, is that true? We're on, we're on, we're on, we're on no top 10 podcast list. But we do, we look, what we do do is that we say facts a lot of times that we're like either from old age or just the pure fact that we're imbeciles. We don't know actually what happened. And why is now I am questioning, questioning, is this, did you Mandela affect us? Is this not real? I'm looking for sourcing.

I'm using my preferred search engine, Microsoft Bing. I've tried various versions of Richard Jewel porno. And I'm still having trouble, I like, I can't find like an article. I was hoping there'd be like a CNN article from 1997 or something that had this reported, but I can't find anything yet. So maybe I'm misremembering it. I remember it, though. This is crazy because I am now questioning whether I knew this before you told me

or if this is something you told me. No, I think we talked about this separately because I remember us like when we brought up in the podcast is a thing we talked about how like, oh, it sucks what happened to Richard Jewel. Maybe also you and I were just sort of thinking of ourselves and projecting on to him like, God, if the police raided my apartment, they'd find so much fucking porno be so embarrassing. It must have happened to him.

Wally and Irma in seductive poses. Just boxes of pictures of them. Oh, so it's homemade. Now, I truly, I truly am not. I truly don't know why I don't. I have no idea now if this is real. Let's see if anyone can find if anyone can find sourcing. Let us know otherwise.

And until then, I will publicly. This is my public apology to Zach and everyone else for spreading misinformation, which none of us. Is there more, Zach? Is there more? Is there mostly out on? No, there's there's not more to call him out on. But there is one more topic that I did want to bring up. Wow. Which as a true fan of the show, I hope you'll enjoy, which is that. So I listened to the show a lot.

I listened to it out loud, my my lovely wife. And I want to make clear that I'm I'm not a wife guy. I know wife guys are getting it in the news a lot lately. And my wife explicitly told me that I was not allowed to become a wife guy. Bear, so. Probably smart. I'm going to say that. But I listen to the show out loud a lot. I love the show. My wife.

Not so much. She she doesn't mind it. It's fine. I get it. Yeah. And she likes both of you, but she's not a huge fan of the show. So there was one week where the fact that your show. Smart. Yeah, no, she's very smart. And and and you'll you'll find out more about sort of how smart she is, which is your show being bad was a key diagnostic tool in a medical mystery

that that my wife and I were trying to figure out. So she was just like feeling kind of like out of it for like a few days. And we just assumed, I don't know. She it was a stressful time, et cetera, et cetera. Then one day I'm listening to your show out loud. And it was the first show, Nick, where you ate chicken again after having been a no meat shall I eat her. All right. Yes.

The full year, which I myself am a no meat shall I eat person. I'm also a no cheese, if you please. Well, wow. When I can, when I can, not all the time. Anyway, that's not the point of this. I'm listening to the show out out loud. Weigar, you eat your first bite of chicken and you're like, that is so good. And my wife from the other room just yells, shut the fuck up, Weigar.

It's just fucking chicken. Now, normally, she's never reacted that aggressively to the show. Normally, she just sort of maybe leaves the room or or kind of is like, are you listening to this episode again? You know, her reaction was so strong that we were like, OK, something maybe is like going on for real. And she had mentioned the day before. She was like, I feel like I like got the wrong medication or something.

And we were both like, that's impossible. Like that that's so how that doesn't have, you know, like it's down to a sign that, you know, you go and you get your medicine and we checked the bottle. She had the right medication. But after her response to your chicken eating, we went and checked the pills. And she had been given the wrong medicine in her. Oh, my God. So she was in withdrawal from her anti-depressant and taking a random new

medicine and we only figured it out because you really loved, I don't know, KFC or I don't know what I don't remember what it was. It was I think it was thigh stop. I think we got we got winged. We got thighs. It might have been it might have been thigh stop. Zach, I thought you were going to that's incredible. This is incredible.

I thought you were going to. It was basically me. The equivalent of like dough boys is like a brown note of a podcast. It makes people sick. It's like a Japanese horror movie where like our like, you know, whatever the audio from our show, like makes people sick or causes hysteria. But we we we solved the mystery. I love the opposite.

The rare podcast that improved someone's health. Wow. Wow. I love that. Also, I just want to quickly say I am a wife guy. I'm not married, but I'm a wife guy. Love wives. Mitch, you got to be careful right now, you know?

Give me those handles. Also, you've said, shut the fuck up. Why girl lot is your medication. OK, there's a possibility you got to check into that. This is why your medication issue. You like you get you can get so confused because like it's like like why there is an easy guy to yell shut the fuck up to like. Yeah, your wife's response in that scenario is normal.

Like I get it. Exactly. It's just not normal for her. You need a baseline. That's why you need a baseline. It is funny. People outside the podcast, people say I'm a nice guy. Everyone has always said I'm a nice man. And then since we started this podcast, I am kind of an angry man.

I yell at you a lot. Why? So maybe there is something to this whole theory. Hmm. Could be. I don't know. No, I don't know. Also, you do.

How do I say this? You suck. Now, you are incredibly frustrating. Man, I I I I I'm happy that you're that you solve the mystery through us. It's fine. That's fine. She's fine. But but here.

Wild. The last thing I wanted to bring up is you saying Weigar sucks is a perfect segue because as a fan of the show, I, you know, I want to make sure I'm not too familiar with you. We've never met before. We've never interacted before. So I was wondering if there's anything that I feel like I want to say to one of you, but it might be a little too comfortable.

Can I put it in the chat and have the other one say it for me? Of a hundred percent. Yeah, we can do that. This is really good. This is funny that both this causes both of us to cry. It's like so so cutting. Put it in the chat. Let's see how let's do this.

And should we should we do it or should we just keep talking and then like randomly we'll say it? Like, is that is that a better way to do or should we just right off the bat? Say it. That's up to you. Yeah. Let's let's just let's just say it. Let's just be out with it.

OK, OK. I think it'll work. Is this one for you or for me? This one is for me. OK. Hey, Wigs, you know, I was just wondering, is all that stuff about your hog real? OK. Well, I guess when you phrase it like that, doesn't make as much sense as I

hope because because you would know. So I need to get a little more precise in how I in how I scripted it. But yeah, that's very I'll tell you just like the M&M's when they say Santa when they see Santa for the first time, it it is real. It's real. It's real. All of it. All every every real thing.

It's real. It is real. OK. You're talking like Han Solo about the Force and Force Awakens. Yes, all of this real. OK. Now, like it's useless in many ways. Ashton answered.

It's like a seven one guy who isn't in the NBA. Yes. Like, well, I guess you can do the freak show or something. OK, and I have one for why I could see you biting off chicken, biting off chicken's heads, revealing your hog at the end of the show. I feel like it could be something. I have one for Wager. OK, I read it.

Mitch, where were you on January 6th? Wags. All I can tell you, first of all, why is what the fuck, dude? That day, you know, the thing I remember all that day is that I was getting my steps in. That's what I remember. I was getting my steps in. I thought you guys were getting your steps in together. Yeah, we're hanging out.

Interesting. I was on the East Coast. I know that much. Yeah. I was getting my steps in. I was working up a sweat. There was like a barbarian headdress you were wearing. And we were both by myself.

You know what's funny? I was I was really getting my steps in. I was watching January 6th on the treadmill. I remember my mom yelling downstairs, checking to see if make sure that I was in the house and not at the January 6th riots. Michael, are you storming the Capitol? Michael, are you that what's the charm in this? I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Michael, are you that what's the shaman's name? Oh, yeah. The QAnon shaman. Oh, you're the QAnon shaman.

Because that was still pinned. I think I was back East because it was was that still pandemic times? It was, wasn't it? It was it was like 2021. Yeah. So I mean, Christ. Yeah, definitely. Still ongoing.

The last few years suck. Not really stuff. But I guess I'll answer this. The the the way Brittany Murphy would. I'll never tell. OK, so you were upset about the way Coolio was treated. But then. Rest in peace to Brittany Murphy as well.

Jesus. All these. These great talented people that we show accidentally shits all over. We don't mean to do. We don't mean to pull them down like that. We're they're both great. Yeah. Them, Richard Joule, with their all great.

It is so sad what happened to Richard. It's really sad. Just want to jack off. Now I really do question if this is something you just made up. I thought it was I thought it was I thought it was sourceable. I thought it was like there's got to be a way I can look this up and confirm this. And it wasn't able to find it. At least the listeners can help.

I'm sure. Yeah. Hopefully the listeners can help. Let's let's talk a little bit about food, because I do want to make sure we have time for Butcher's daughter. But I am curious about you as a I touched on baking earlier. Yes. And I wanted to hear about your your baking background. Yes. My baking background is not huge, but I did basically during the pandemic,

I got super into cooking in general and baking a little bit. So yeah, I've dabbled. I've made my pies. I've made my breads. I do some pizzas occasionally. I'm no Mr. Slice. But, you know, I'm able to put the dough in the oven. So yeah, I have a little experience with baking, but nothing nothing too exciting.

Um, dough is the thing I learned about. I bet you you're I'm sure that you're a great baker and much better than me, who can only really make pizzas. I did make a pie last year. I think I'm going to try to make a pie again this year for the holidays. Your pie was great and your pizzas were great. You're a very skilled baker. I can work with the dough weirdly.

We're the dough boys and then weirdly I'm decent with dough. I've made some good bagels dough, Zach, I don't know how you feel about this. This is like very dorky and and and I feel like not not very deep at all. But dough is such an I love I love working with it just because you can make one batch the same way as the other. And then it just tastes completely different. And for me, it's usually fucking them up constantly like right.

Like, uh, but when you when you nail it, when I like nail my pizza dough and it's so like it's and I'm like, oh, this is like the most store quality or like, you know, cafe or or restaurant quality food I can make is if I nail the dough and get it right, which is it's not easy. It's not an easy thing to do. I used to I used to also blame myself when I screwed up my dough. But something I learned in the process of the baking show, because occasionally I would I would ask the judges like, hey, so like,

what's going on with when I try to make bread? Like, why does it fucking suck? And they would try and, you know, help me. Um, what I learned from Paul Hollywood himself, the bread guy extraordinaire is that a lot of the way a different loaf turns out has to do with temperature and like moisture and stuff that you can't exactly control. So like that means you might need to make it rise longer or shorter. But since I don't know what the fuck I'm doing, I can't adjust to any of that.

So, so I've given up on blaming myself. And I now just blame other things. I will curse wager every time I like a bad dough, like it doesn't rise or whatever. Wise, you're going to come and try my bagels. Wise, I got to make you some of my bagels. Yeah, I got to make some bagels for you. So bagels I've had issues with how have you found the bagel making process? Zach, I will it is first of all, it is like a thing where I'm like,

this is a you make the dough, which is already time consuming and messy and whatever, but then just even the, you got to boil them on each side and then bake them and it just is like a long ass process. Like, and getting them to stick, like getting the circle to stick is the hardest part for me. I make a lot of people that fall apart while they're boiling and then they're like, they end up being like a crescent moon kind of shit. Yeah.

Or like the whole fills in completely. I'm going to send you this great, I'm going to send you a great bagel recipe. I have a great bagel recipe. Amazing. There's also, there's also like this, uh, you know, I'm going to go get it. I'll be right back. Okay. Look, Mitch is going to go get something.

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That's code doughboys50 at factormeals.com slash doughboys50 to get 50% off your first box. Do it. Welcome back to doughboys. We're here with Zach Cherry. This week's chain is the butcher's daughter. But before we get into that, Mitch, you went and got something during the break. What did you get?

I walked off and got something. I guess it was rude when whatever. I was thrilled. I can, I can check that off the doughboys bingo of Mitch walks away with little to no explanation. This time you at least said where you were going. This is, this is where I went to get barley malt syrup. Here it is.

Look at that. This is, so this is a jar of barley malt syrup, which you can get. I think I maybe just had to sadly order it on Amazon. Um, but this is, I guess this is like one of the keys to bagels is this barley malt syrup, but I've never used it, but, uh, it like gives the bagels that shine and gives them a taste that, that, uh, that, that, that eludes a lot of, uh, bagel makers, but there's barley malt, malt syrup is, is, is a big key to it.

I'm going to send you the recipe and they talk about how you can use barley malt syrup in the, I think it's maybe instead of sugar as you use the barley malt syrup, but that's exciting. I've never used that. So, uh, I'm excited to try it out. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, I'm excited.

Look, it is a thing that I, I look as men wise, is there anything that like really excites us? Where is this going? We do the podcast and we watch wrestling. I like, I'm like, what else do we like in movies? I guess we'd like to go see movies and, and some TV, but like video games, I like, I like, I like to read. I like to go for a walk.

I like to spend time with my wife, of course. Yeah. But you, all of that stuff, you don't love that much hold on. Maybe my wife doesn't love it, but I like it. But you get what I'm saying is like, I never in a million years thought that I would, you get it. We're curmud, curmudgins. We, there's like a lot of stuff that doesn't make us, we're not as excited

about when I was young. I loved going to the comedy theater, but you know, you get older. You don't like to do stuff as much. I've tried to be, become less cynical lately. Like I've been working on being like just like, I'm trying to be a little bit less cynical and honestly, it's, it's kind of improved my overall mental health picture, but I, but I can't, I do feel that way a lot of times. You're striking out, buddy.

You're whiffing. Um, yes, I, I, uh, I don't want to be cynical either. I feel the same way you do, but there's not a lot of things that like, uh, you know, that excite me. If we were like, let's go do this thing or that thing. I don't know. I'm never that excited, but baking weirdly did get like, I really did have fun with it and I never in a million years thought it would be something that I

liked to do and I, uh, and I, my happiest day of the pandemic was the first time I made bagels. I was like, so thrilled just that. Cause it, you know, it felt like I realized for the first time that that's something you can just do, you know, like, I didn't have to go to the store. I didn't have it, whatever, whatever. I just like made them myself. That was like my crowning achievement of the last three years.

So I, I relate to that very much. Yes, it's, it's, I've read about this. Yeah. That like a, like a, a hobby that feels productive, like some, especially something you can do with your hands and like is, is great for, for mental well being. It's great for, for well, you've read about this, but, but have no, um, no experience yourself with it.

Yeah, I haven't done that, but I've read that it's great. Like if you want to draw or sew or bake or whatever, it's a hobby you can do with your hands. I think you and Richard Jule have a hobby or two you like to do with your hands. There's no sourcing on that. Can't find sourcing. Oh, poor Richard. Um, yeah.

It's sad what happened to Richard. He's passed away, right? Yeah. He passed away very young. Hmm. RIP. Uh, God, we've talked about so many dead people. I don't know why that's happened.

Uh, uh, we, we, we've, I got to get off the topic of death. Zach. Yes. And you know what, I know a way of, I know a way of doing it. You don't, you don't eat meat. You're, you're, you're, you're, you're a meat free person. I, I didn't realize that. Yes.

And I didn't realize that going to today's restaurant. And I got to say, I went with sus and I think there's no, I think there's no other way to describe it than sus was furious. The restaurant is called the butcher's daughter. And there is, and he's like, and look, I'm not going to talk about the, the, you know, what we thought of the restaurant until we get into it. But he was like, this name is bad. I don't like the name.

I agree. It took me so long to order from it. Cause I was confused. I, and it's also one of those places that like, because it's all vegetarian, they don't feel the need to super distinguish between like the vegetarian version of something. So you might be reading the menu and it says like with bacon bits and you're like, oh, okay, that must be bacon, but it, but it never is.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's, there's, there's things that are, there's, it's either vegetarian or vegan. There's no, there's, there's, they use some cheese. They use eggs, but, uh, but there's a lot of vegan dishes. Um, sus had agreed to go, uh, we, and he was, and he was, he was, he was, he was pissed off. He was very pissed.

Um, we went to the, uh, West Hollywood location, Nick, you were going to join us and then you ended up going to the Venice location. Yeah, it was a bus issue. I would have had to try, like I looked at it, I would have had to transfer buses to go to the West Hollywood location. Even though it's one of those dumb, those dumb transit things where even though they're both about the same distance from where I am, that one would have taken me an hour where it's getting to the Venice location took me 20 minutes.

So I was like, I'll just do a solo, solo John over to the Venice location because I could bus direct. Yeah. I'm sorry. I missed out on the outing though. Oh, we were fine. Um, it was, it was, it was, uh, it was a nice trip. That's supposed to mean we had a great time without you.

That's all. All right. It would have been better with you. I don't know. It's unknowable, but we had a great time without you. Um, we also met the, the owner of the restaurant. This is true. Heather, Heather Tierney, we met Heather, Heather Tierney.

We met Heather Tierney founded the butcher's daughter in the Nolita neighborhood of Manhattan in 2012. It is a plant based restaurant as we talked about. It is a, the alleged instigator of the avocado toast trend, a ground zero of avocado really, and, uh, five locations in New York and LA now there's, there's three in NYC and two out here in LA. This started avocado toast. Apparently.

Yeah. I mean, it couldn't have been the first place that ever had avocado toast, right? I think it was like Instagrammable, like, like Gwyneth Paltrow is taking a picture of her avocado toast at the butcher's daughter. And that's becoming like a trend. I think it's that sort of thing. All right. So I got to fess up on why this all, why we ended up meeting the owner of the

restaurant and I'm going to be honest with you. Like, I never say that I never say I'm doing this for a podcast. I think it's embarrassing. Yes, but I think that I'm going to start doing it from here on out. We, we went, we went to the butcher's daughter and they sat us down on a table and our waitress Julia, I believe her name was Julia. She was great. She was awesome.

And she, you know, was helping us out and telling us about the menu. And then we were trying to say like, Hey, we want to try like the best dishes, but we like, what do you think are the best dishes? And I was like, this is embarrassing. We're doing it for a podcast. And she was like, Oh, a podcast. And she got like, kind of excited about it. And then like another server came up and she was like, I heard you guys are big

time food reviewers. And we were like, Oh, fuck man. This is not really, if you listen to the podcast, like we were telling them the name of the podcast. I'm like, these people are going to listen to the podcast. And then they're going to hear like us talk about come for like, yeah, within 30 seconds of turning on the podcast, just like, it's going to be a disappointment. And then they were like, what were the first 14 minutes about whether or not

Richard Jule had a large pornography collection. There's a lot of stuff about climbing into a bear's hog as well. So yes. I would be shocked if they're still listening now, but they're like, you know, the owner is behind you. So Heather was in a corner booth behind us and she came over and she talked to us at one point and she is the butcher's daughter. She told us and and and Susten Susten, you know, yell at her about how there was no

meat there and how he thought, well, there's another thing that there's daughters deli wise. That's the other confusing thing. There is a daughter's deli in in LA and there's butcher's shops. Yeah, that's another thing. There's just butcher's shops like what the hell places where that if you're going to get meat, you're going to go to a butcher's shop. Yeah.

So like, oh, butchers daughter. This has got to be similar. No, completely on the other end of the spectrum. I think butcher's shops would have to change their names to make it less confusing to daughter's daddy. Every butcher's shop should just be called a daughter's daddy. Every butcher's shop should be called a daughter's daddy from here on out. I think I'm with you, Zach.

I didn't realize it either that it was a vegetarian restaurant and especially because I looked and I saw that they had eggs and everything. So I didn't look at the menu that closely. What I'll say is it was a long journey to the point where I was like, we went to the West Hollywood location and it was one of those things where I walked in and I was like, I don't feel comfortable in like a West Hollywood restaurant like this where it feels nice. Like it was very nice.

It's like a very nice place. It's upscale kind of like the Venice location I was at had kind of like crunchy vibes where it was like rich person crunchy. It was like this is like a hippie who also has a 401K. And I'm a slaw. Avocado toast. Yes, 100%. Yeah, there you go.

And I'm slobby. I'm a slobby guy and I just I felt a little out of place. They were completely, I mean, the service was great. They were so nice and accepting before they knew we even had a podcast. But but I thought that my meal didn't start out great. But we should we should we get into things? Wags? Well, yeah, I am curious before we do, Zach, because, you know, we you're obviously

in New York and we're in LA and we we'd we'd gone back and forth about restaurants. And this was a place that you pitched. And you were I'm curious as to why you wanted to cover this. Well, the way that came about is that I I was totally separate from thinking about the podcast, just ordered brunch from here. And then when I was ordering brunch on the app I was using, they didn't have a lot of like details on the menu. So then I went to their website and realized that they had locations in LA.

And then I was like, ah, ah, you know, that's right, that could be an option. And this this is a place that you that you get, do you you frequent or like a I've had it. I had had it two times before I suggest. So not not OK. I wonder what the vibe of the New York place is, because I'll say this, not not knowing not knowing Zach. Well, walking into it and my initial vibes from it. And if I didn't know you, Zach, and I and I know that and I know what a great

dude you are, I'd walk into that place and be like, who the fuck is this Zach Cherry guy? Who the fuck is this place? And you know what? It's unfair of me even to the restaurant because of our experience there. It was a great experience and it got better as we went. Well, I'll say I have not been inside. So so I don't know what the vibes are. One reason why I like it is I actually

the the blend of like options they offer is is exactly kind of where I'm at in terms of, you know, I'm not like a vegan, vegan, but I try to avoid, you know, dairy when I can. But sometimes I'll have a little cheese, but I don't eat meat. So this is like, you know, the perfect spot for me, basically. Right. Yeah. And I mean, so thanks for insulting it right off the top, which in a way is sort of insulting my lifestyle.

So thank you. That's what we do here. And I've had nothing but nice things to say about you. Why you're asked you about January 6th. I didn't say shit about that. That's true. Came for me. I'm going to tell you this place really it really won me over.

And there's like stuff in there that's like there is some stuff that's like, look, our podcast, people are happy with Taco Bell and Wendy's with the people who listen to this. So this is I love those as well. This is definitely this is definitely kind of higher quality. There's like there, for instance, there's a you can get a like five different juice samplings like you can get a like a juice board.

I have I have a juice here. You got the number four. I have a number four here. Wow. Wow. The number four, which is that the is that the greens? The green. Yes. Which is which, you know what, a tasty green.

They also and I wasn't expecting this, but the Venice location at least had a full bar. So it's like it's got like it's you know, it's got it's got juice. It's got, you know, baristas, but then they've also got bartenders and a bunch of craft cocktails they do there. So you know what it reminds me of Mitch and Zach, I'm not sure if you've had this place, but we semi recently reviewed True Food Kitchen, which was a another plant based restaurant. And those are sort of like wellness.

Do you remember this place, Mitch? Yes, but I also think that that place is more like like it is like more mass production sort of, you know what I'm saying? Sure. But I more mentioned something in kind of the category of chains of like this is kind of a new sector that we've seen come up in the 2010s of like, OK, this is a place where it's oriented towards, you know, fairly well off people who care about like what they put into their bodies. And this isn't just like a big indulgence.

This is like something that's fun to eat, but also something that's ostensibly healthy for you. And and also it's it's pretty expensive. Like I don't think this is a place you would go to regularly unless you were, you know, if you were if you were like a a a Beverly Hills, like stay at home, mom, marry, do a rich guy. Maybe this is a place you go to for lunch three times a week. But I think for most people, it's probably outside.

Like this is a special occasion place. That's when, by the way, like I said, I'm a wife guy. Maybe it's another incoming message. Like I said, I'm a wife guy. I love wives. Yeah, I mean, if you were the kind of guy who has stairs in his house, Jesus Christ, maybe you can eat there regularly, Nick. Hold on, Zach, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry to do this, Zach. Nick, how dare you fucking say that to me? How fucking dare you? Jeez, Nick, I'd be just be happy that your friend is succeeding. But I don't know about that. No, I'm bitter about it. You could you could get stairs. You shouldn't stop stairs.

Install some stairs. Install stairs in your prayers. I don't really want stairs. I don't want to split level. Maybe with a one level. Look, the stairs are good for me. It's keeping me alive longer. I have to go up them.

Listeners, don't be mad that I have stairs. Mitch, yeah, I can't believe that 40 year old who's worked in this business for 20 years has stairs. God forbid I have fucking stairs for God's sakes. Your this is the thing, Mitch, is that first off, I'm sorry for saying that. I'm sorry that came from me that I said that about your stairs. I'm I'm I'm apologizing.

But there is a reading of that where you're maybe maybe people who are like everyone is like, hey, Mitch has stairs. Mitch shouldn't have stairs. They might just be worried you have people under the stairs. Oh, that's a good point. And so they might like, you know, you might want to check for that because though, I think in that lore, aren't they like kind of good? I forget how the movie ends.

I've isn't it like aren't they people under the stairs like not that bad? Is it like a sort of twist ending where they were trying to be helpful or something? This is now the second movie that neither of you have seen that. That we reference immediately. I think I think I think that the chill. I think the people under the stairs, they get villainized because I guess like they go under the stairs and they find like a box of porno. And so they all get that's what it is.

Yes, that's what it is. It's sad what happened to them. I actually did see that movie and that and that is what happens in it. Oh, wow. Wow. All right. Now, good confirmation that this is how that movie ends. I think that this movie is a movie. I think that this restaurant is there's some stuff that will make you roll your eyes like a juice flight.

That's what it was, a flight of juices, which I got, by the way. And I got all the different juices. And, you know, it is kind of fun to get all the different juices. But I got the the orange, the yellow, the passion, the pure passion and the waterflower. I should have tried that red. I thought that I tried the red. We'll we'll get into that. Hmm. Yeah, passion, waterflower.

And then Sus got the orange and he got the green was the only difference. But besides the passion, I thought all the juices are pretty good. It's tough with it. Like the flight is such an in in in restaurant thing to get. And I'm like, what am I doing here? You're drinking four different juices. It's nice to taste them all, but I immediately wanted a lemonade. And I did get a lemonade.

Let me tell you that lemonade was fantastic. I had a great lemonade. Good beverages there. Yeah, it's it's look, the restaurant is like a type of place that people would if people, the people who frequent are people who have stairs. It's a stairs type crowd to stairs restaurant. And like you say, it's a Beverly Hills type crowd where like when I worked at the Simpsons, I was like around Beverly Hills, like housewives.

Like that was that was like what I dealt with all day. I was like me and like 30 Beverly Hills housewives or househusbands waiting for orders at the restaurant. It was it was it was pretty hard. People in yoga yoga pants during a weekday and they're dropping $70 on lunch and like it's nothing. Yeah, I mean, there's there's there's I think that's a lot of their clientele. But that isn't that is not necessarily a knock against the restaurant itself,

because I do I did like the food there and I did like the beverages. It's a little hard to pin down because I actually did not know they even had juice until I looked at their website and it said they described it describes itself as a juice bar and cafe, which I had already ordered from there multiple times it has a pretty big menu. So like I didn't even get down to the juices, but but they consider that they I you know, they say they're a juice bar. So it is a little kind of hard to know exactly what it is going for.

Yeah, there's this the center of this restaurant was like there was like a juice bar and also a place where they make coffee. So it felt but it was very much a sit down restaurant. Yeah. And Julia, like I said, was great. She recommended some stuff when I told her that we were doing this for a podcast. And then I like I said, I think how many members of the staff besides Julia, two more members of the staff and then the owner all came up

to us during the meal. But actually, I think you got the VIP latrine treatment. We really did. Well, I'm going to get into what we I'm going to get into what we got. And yeah, let's get into it. And how things went as so I got the juice flight. Like I said, I just told you about that and I got a lemonade. We sus and I started off with the Mediterranean trip.

I'm sorry, Mediterranean trio dip, which comes with a labna, a zatar. I can't say a lot of the stuff. But we can use with pickled vegetables and ancient grain, Cristini and seasonal crudity. I am. I thought a lot of these dips were good, but I was also like, oh, this is good. But this isn't a home run. And a lot of the things were pickled, which like I loved the pickled vegetables.

And then I had all this dip and you're like, oh, I guess I'm just kind of dipping the Custinian here. It was good. It wasn't like a mindblower. But then we ordered a main to split at the start and we got the cauliflower strip steak, which is marinated grill, grilled cauliflower, garlic, chimichurri, pink tahini, asparagus and potatoes. The potatoes were great, but sus and I didn't love the cauliflower steak.

We were just, we were so, so on it. So this is like the start of our meal. And we're like, you know, we're not, we're not loving it. We're just, we're so, so on it. Let me, let me interject here real quick. Just cause I'll say that I'm curious. Zach's opinion is someone who's, who's probably been vegetarian is still a vegetarian and probably has been doing it for longer than I did.

The, what do you mean? That one year? Yeah. That one year. Oh yeah. No, I wonder if he's been doing it longer than you for the one year you did it for the dough boys gimmick. Maybe this is a new year's resolution.

I don't know. I'm just going to, anyway, what I was going to say is the, how dare you question them like that? You did that for the podcast? No, I did that for me, but it had the side effect of it. I think you kind of did it because he hated the podcast. Yeah, it made the podcast worse. What I'll say is the cauliflower.

Wait, first of all, I'm just going to say, hold on, you question me about my stairs and you question Zach about how long he's been a vegetarian. You're out of fucking control right now. I just want to know if Emma is actually editing the episodes. I'm just curious. Wow. What I'm going to say is this, the cauliflower steak. I have not had a version of that I really liked.

Like I've had a few different, like like gone to places where, hey, this is your vegetarian main. This is a big piece of cauliflower that's been seasoned. And I feel like it never really works. Zach, have you had a version of that you liked? I do have opinions on this, but first I just want to apologize to Susser. I didn't know you were going to be brought into this. I would have chosen, I don't know.

Uh, somewhere that has meat, if I knew, if I knew that you were going to be there. So Susser, please don't be mad at me. Um, I hope to someday get, get on the same episode as you. If you're available by the end of the episode, want to jump in here and share your thoughts. I don't know if this comes out live or what, but would love to hear this is streaming, this is streaming live. Okay, perfect.

Perfect. But, um, look, Susser would only have been happy if we had to like the sloppy Joe trough, so don't, don't feel bad. Okay. Next time, next time. But when it comes to cauliflower steak, I've, I've never, I don't get it. If I'm at a restaurant, I think for that reason, I, I often feel kind of like, eh, you know, it's okay.

I've made, I've made some versions of it that have felt more successful, but I think a lot of that is just cause I spent like, you know, two hours prepping it. And then, right, you know, kind of tricks you. So I think you're on to something there in that that's like, unless you really want that in particular, it's, it's not going to, you're, you're often going to leave a little disappointed and it's, they should stop calling it steak because I agree. Full agree.

It has nothing in common with steak. No, no, not at all. No, um, Suss says the juice should have been better. Um, and the, the, the name was a big thing. You thought that he was getting meat. Um, I, I, the thing with cauliflower is like, when I really love it and I get a buffalo cauliflower, it's like pieces of cauliflower that have been like fried or cooked that way and then tossed in buffalo sauce.

And I'm like, oh, sometimes there can be a great texture to these with a big piece of cauliflower, like you guys were just saying, like it's a cauliflower steak. It's this big piece and like it's not, it's going to be kind of thicker and just not, it's not what I'm looking for. And I like, no matter how much you put on it, I'm going to know that it's just a big piece of cauliflower worth of the buffalo cauliflower. Like, Hey, you're tricking me a little bit. This tastes a little different.

And, and, and, and it's like, I know that I'm not eating chicken, but I'm like, I'm also not thinking that I'm eating cauliflower or whatever, but yeah. Something else that happens with cauliflower steak is to get a big piece of it. They're not just using the heads of the florets. They're, they're leaving on that kind of stemmy part. And that usually is a little like tougher and like texturally not as good. So you kind of end up having to eat parts of the cauliflower that you probably aren't eating in a buffalo cauliflower situation.

Great point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and I don't know if I, I don't know if I need that stuff. I don't know if I need a, it was in the, there were good flavors in there and the potatoes were fantastic. The potatoes and asparagus, but, um, you know, when we were done with this,

we were kind of like, yeah, I don't know. Um, luckily our server, Julia, we, when we were talking about stuff to get, she told us that the waffles were really great. She said you should have that Commoda's dessert. So we had that Commoda's dessert and we also got, we had, we had, we had these, uh, the cocoa, the Dutch cocoa waffle, uh, and I'll get to that in a minute. And then, um, we got a couple sandwiches. I got, uh, an old day breakfast sandwich, which was the best egg sandwich.

I was, I was trying to, I was thinking whether between, whether I get that or the imposter, which is an impossible burger. And Suss was like, yeah, and I think this is right. And I, and I felt the same way is like an impossible burger is now almost like a thing you can get anywhere and how unique is getting an impossible burger. Like, I know restaurants can make it differently, but it's like, I should try something different. So I went with the best egg sandwich and Suss got the, uh, um, the Portobello

sandwich, the Umami Portobello sandwich. Um, and like I said, hadn't been blown away to this point. The sandwiches were fucking great. They were fantastic. That Umami Portobello sandwich, I bit into it and I'm like, this is it. This is like a flagship thing. This is so good and unique. I've never had anything like this, which I'll tell you what's in there.

It's grilled Portobello, housemade cashew, uh, mozzarella, fried lemons, marinated eggplant, pickled Fresno chili slaw, uh, Nori Mayo, sourdough bread. This is, it's a vegan sandwich. It is really, really, really tasty. It, like I said, I, I'm like, I've never had anything like that. I've never had the fried lemons in a sandwich like that, the egg plants, the mushrooms, all of it together. It was fantastic.

Why is it was like one of those things where I was like, I get it. I get the restaurant now for sure. I, and, and, and it was, it was, it was, it was a game changer. And it, it, it, it, my whole perception of the place changed. I, I had ordered this best egg sandwich, which our server, Julia, she really liked. It's seasonal greens, egg omelet, provolone cheese, uh, uh, Calabrian, aioli and sourdough. I wish there was a little bit more of that aioli now that I see that.

Um, and, uh, Alan McLeod is on TV, the molasses boy. I had the TV off. Why are you TV on? I had raw on in the background the whole time. WWE. Why are you watching raw? We're supposed to be doing the podcast. We, we established that up top.

We like wrestling. We're watching raw on mute the whole time we're doing the podcast. You did establish that up top. To, to miss his credit, you did establish it. Thank you, Zach. I'll turn on a W dynamite. You're right. All right.

Good. And I, I'm going to put on Richard. Zach also just recently wrote, he's so rich, he eats here. I guess referring to the, to the restaurant, something that we missed in the chat. No, he got it. He, he, he got the message across. Um, but man, that, so the mushroom sandwich blew me away. The egg sandwich was really, really solid sandwich.

Like it was like this egg and cheese omelet that like you felt like would be made like in a little Parisian cafe. It was fantastic. And, uh, just a great, great sandwich. Like I said, the best sandwich because the name is hubris chick. It's, there's a lot of hubris going on there. Wags, it's a really, really good egg sandwich. It's really solid.

I mean, are you, are you the dough boys? You know? Fair. That's a good point. We're not made of dough wags, but we're also not men. So we're in our forties, but we're not men. So that part's right. I, I, I think that the name is, I think we're more dough boys than it is the,

the best egg sandwich. Sure. It's really good. It's up there. Zach, it is, it's, I don't know if you've ever had it. I don't know if you eat eggs. Uh, you said you don't eat cheese too often. It's, it's really impressive, but that portobello mushroom sandwich is, is fantastic.

And that, that is like to me should be touted as, as, as I wish there was more things like that up like, Hey, this is what you should check out because there were some things that were, you know, a little so-so and, and other things that like really blew me away. No, I, I'll just interject real quick that it's interesting that you say that one's the showstopper because there are differences between the menus in different locations and the Venice location does not have the portobello sandwich, even though it's also an LA.

So it sounds like maybe a reason to make a trip out to the West Hollywood one. I have not seen it. I can't believe that. It's, that, that, that's crazy to me. Um, big mistake should be on every menu. Uh, Zach, let's, let's talk about your order a little bit. So you say you had the number four you were sipping on. I did.

So now I, I got a lot of stuff. Um, hell yeah. Part of that is because I ate here on my own, um, you know, right before knowing I was going to do the show. So I have that meal to, to kind of talk about. And then I was like, Oh, well, now I know I'm doing the show. I'm going to, I'm going to order it again. So I had it for brunch, so I had it for brunch the next day also.

And then I was like, there's a lot of stuff on the dinner menu that I think I want to try. So then, uh, we had it for dinner the next day as well. Wow. So I really did a deep dive. I wanted to come prepared, uh, for my first and hopefully last appearance. Um, on the Dell boys, uh, sorry. Well, so my first, the first time I ate there, when I didn't

know I was coming on the show. So this was all just like things that I truly wanted this. I wasn't having an eye for like, Oh, I better try this. Zach, you, I just want to say, you do know that like, you're going to have to be on like a Skittles counting double at some point now, right? Yeah. That's part of the deal. Yeah.

Um, I welcome that, uh, I thought the fry counting was some of your best work. So I'd love to bring, you know, bring you back to those routes. Um, but I got the pancakes and the, uh, what was it? It was at Zuki bacon. Um, and then I also had a croissant, uh, with my brunch order. Um, the, the, the at Zuki bacon, when I first took a bite of it, I thought it was some of the best plant bacon I've, I've ever had. And I've tried a few different plant vacans.

I've tried mushroom ones. I've tried, you know, tempeh, bacon, whatever, whatever. And I was very impressed with the crispiness and the, the flavor. It had a nice saltiness. Um, I, I learned how to talk about food while I was on, uh, the, the baking show. You say things like flavor and saltiness. You say texture, uh, you know, I've noticed acid is a big one. I mean, when we just see people who know about food, they'll say like, Oh,

it's got good acid to it. It's going to get as I was like, okay, I'll say acid. I haven't, I haven't developed that in my vocabulary yet. That one. I like that we haven't picked up any of these tricks after seven years of this show, you got to say texture more. We got, I think we do got to say textures again. We're working it in.

You got to talk about the texture and the texture of that bacon was very good. But as it sogged up, it, it became not as good. So it was a great first bite, but then it kind of mellowed out. And I had a, a similar experience with the pancakes, which were rice flour pancakes, which I'd never had before. I didn't know what I was getting into, uh, they were gluten free. And I thought they were delicious. They were really good.

They had some kind of white sauce on there. Mitch, if you can look on the, in the chat for one second, they had some kind of white sauce on there. I don't know what it was. Um, they had maple syrup. Wait a second. What do I think, I think, I think that, that's for you, Mitch. That's for you.

Wager is the white stuff. Wait, hold on a second. Just say it. I know where this is going. Wags. Yeah. Hold on. This is good for the podcast.

Mitch is typing something else in the chat. So can you just grab those pancakes one last time? Yeah. So I had the pancakes. They were rice flour pancakes. They had some kind of white sauce on them, which was very tasty. They had sounds like they might have been served by chef Liger. Wags.

Was that your? Oh no. Why is that your cum? Oh my God. Sorry. Yuck. Fucking gilly freak. Um, well, it tasted amazing.

There was no back and forth there. There you go. Yeah, it was clear. There was no back and forth. My joke was clear right away and Mitch did not have to clarify. If I meant cum. Well, tell us how did Wags taste? Was it how was that?

I thought it was amazing. It was delicious. The pancakes were great. Uh, but they did. They, I felt like they filled me up faster than normal pancakes. So I don't know if that's a rice, a rice flour pancake thing or what, but I thought they were really good and the croissant was also really good, really good flavor, really good texture, uh, buttery, buttery.

You want to say things are buttery. That's another thing I picked up while I was over there. We got, we got hung up on a thing called Weiger juice. We're not sure what Weiger juice really means. Well, well, when I said Weiger juice, you asked, do you mean cum? Which I did, but I meant Weiger's cum specifically. Yes. But I'm now wondering if you call all cum Weiger juice.

Oh, I'm going to shoot Weiger juice. What? Take me home. Take me home. Your cats are in the bed. I just, I'm surprised that it wasn't like you can't read Weiger juice and just know what that is. I know, I fucked up.

You can't intuit what it means. It's pretty clear. You really made a, made some, make some text into text. I think that was pretty obvious. I wanted his words to come across what he intended. I wanted to get that across, because it was important to me. Sure. And I appreciate it.

And you did. You nailed it. Yes. And I do. Now I will refer to all cum as Weiger juice. I, I, I wish I, I'm looking at the menu now and I see these pancakes on the menu. And they do, I guess they're kind of maybe featured, but, but they look very good. They were, they were great.

Yeah. One of the things on the homepage or whatever it's, but yeah. No, they look, they, they look fantastic. Um, which when I get to my, our dessert section, it's maybe a similar tale. Uh, we, we had, we had some similar experiences. Why did you get anything sweet? I guess you haven't said anything. Oh, I got, yeah.

Well, I'll talk a little bit about what I got. First off, I got a seasonal juice, which is their Elizabeth street garden variety includes peach, sour cherry, celery, lemon, ginger, lemon, verbena and basil. Uh, this was a nice blend. I mean, it was really, it was really fragrant. It had a lot of, uh, the peach was very strong. The, I got another thing that I also got the vampire slayer shot, which was ginger, lemon, garlic and cayenne.

That one was like a stringent. It was like very potent. I mean, it was good to have it just as a shot and I like the name a lot, but it was very gingery and then, and really kind of burned the tongue. I got that kind of as a chaser at the end of the meal and actually worked out well there, uh, but I thought the seasonal juice was nice. It was very, very, very sipable. Um, as far as sweet treats go, I got myself a market muffin and I was like,

do you have any muffin recommendations? He's like, just go look at the case. And I went, looked at the case and I picked myself out the vegan coconut strawberry, which was their seasonal offering. And let me tell you, that one was working. I mean, it was, it, it was, uh, it, it was, it was very, um, artificial strawberries are real strobs. No, this was like real strawberries.

This was artificial strobs. So it's real strawberry. This is a classy place. It was, it had a lot of moisture to it. Um, it was a, you know, it was, it was dense and flavorful. I thought the coconut was very strong. I love coconut desserts. So I thought this one was, this one was working well.

And to talk texture had a nice little crunch on top. A little, little, little, little, little coconut, a little coconut crunch on top. Did either of you see on the menu or try the pina colada cake? I didn't see that one. I didn't even see that, but I wish I had. Maybe they don't have it out there, but you mentioned coconut desserts. We had that and it was, that was like bite of the night candidate. The, the pina colada cake.

Wow. It was so good. It was really moist. Like you were saying, it was there, there are baked goods all around. I was very, very impressed with. Yeah. I noticed that there was a, there was a woman dining next to me and she was, she was by herself and she had, she was just ordering

for the baked goods section. She was just getting yourself pastries. And I was like, oh, that must be part of their clientele. People come in for a latte and a few baked goods. Cause you know, you can get like three baked goods for 10 bucks or something like that. Um, and it's one of their more budget friendly options on the menu. Uh, and the place also seems cool with just like letting people just sort

of chill there and with a laptop or whatever. Uh, I also, let me talk about my main real quick and I had to do this. And I don't know if this is a Venice exclusive or not. I assume it might be. You know, I'm a lifelong SoCal surfer dude. They have a surfer's burrito. I got the surfer's burrito Mitch, which is a breakfast burrito with, with eggs, avocado, pinto beans, hash browns, green salsa and cheddar.

Uh, it's not a vegan cheddar, although you can upgrade for a vegan cheddar. Here's the thing about breakfast burritos. I've had the upscale breakfast burrito in a lot of places and a lot of times I'm like, I can't believe I paid $16 for this when there's so many good taquerias and taco trucks in the city where you can get like a better execution, a more authentic execution of this, uh, you know, with like some outpass store, uh, carved straight off a spit and you can get that for half the price, the, the kind of upscale version of the breakfast burrito, the elevated

breakfast burrito. I've had so many versions of that that are kind of disappointing. This one was, was terrific. Uh, the beans had a lot of flavor, uh, great avocado in there. The hash browns, Mitch, you mentioned your potatoes and your dish. And that was, that's one of those things where like it can be kind of polarizing cause it can really dry out a breakfast burrito. But here at this was just perfect in terms of adding just a little bit of

crunch to it, a little bit of crispiness. I thought this, this, and the, it comes a little salsa verde on the side, uh, that I doused it in. I thought it was a, it was delicious. I was like, this is one of those few, like, uh, those few expensive burritos, expensive ass breakfast burritos that I don't mind paying for. So I really liked my main filled me up too. Sus had talked about how the price point is, um, when I look at his, uh, when I

look at his notes, yeah, um, uh, you know, the, the name plus the cost. Cause the cost, you know, when you, when you break it down, it is expensive for if you're two people getting lunch, you know, uh, one of our things, one, one of our, one of our meals was on the, uh, one of our plates was on the house. Uh, which again, I'm going to tell everyone when I go in next time. I, any restaurant review, I'm telling them we're from the much esteemed dough boys podcast. Um, but, um, sir, this is a rally's doesn't mean anything does making minimum wage.

Sus's thing was price. He also said, he also wrote this also like you. It made me suspect Zach, uh, made me suspect of Zach that he suggested it. We both, we, uh, Zach, we both were like, wow, he, he wanted me to say this to you. Susser wanted me to say this to you. I don't know. I think I take back my apology to Evan Susser.

I think that's, I think Susser loves to start shit, but is also a coward. Um, so this is the perfect way for him to do it. Like I was saying, we already knew you were, I already have heard rave things about you, but when we went to the place, we were like, this is, this is like a fan. What is this fancy as place? And then we were one over completely. Both of us were one over. Um,

to be fair, I never expected you to agree to do it. When I, when I suggested it, I literally threw it out as a like, oh, this would be nice for me, um, because it's close to me. And, but so no, this was a great spot. And, and the alternative was like, I hop nine. So like, I'm happy to do something, something new. But Zach, this is, this is exactly what we're saying. We, we, we both were, we both were skeptical of the place when we went in.

We were one over and then Susser said this and I agree with this place. It's like, Hey, don't go there. Go here instead. Like when, if you're, this is the type of food you're looking for. If you want to get like vegan or vegetarian food, this is, this is a great restaurant. It has like, yeah. And that egg, if you're going with someone who like, isn't necessarily a vegan or even a vegetarian, if you get like that egg sandwich, there's a lot of things

you can get and be very happy. So we were, we were, we were one over, uh, I'm, or I was already one over by you as a man, um, but I was, I was, I was, I was, I was one over by this restaurant. Uh, big time. But Susser was saying that, you know, Heather's not really a but she's, she's not really a butcher's daughter. This is, I'm now reading this. So I was wrong.

She actually isn't a butcher's daughter, which is another strike against the menu, but she's supposed to be the daughter in the, in the title, but she's not really a butcher's daughter. Um, and she also, she does all the design. She told us, um, and Susser said, I thought that was an interesting thing to claim. Susser's just starting shit with everybody. It seems like Susser's in a bad mood.

He's cranky. He was yelling at me yesterday. Over some feels like it's false advertising to name the restaurant, the butcher's daughter. Yes. Yeah. Gotcha. The restaurant should be named Heather.

Does he have similar issues with like Ronald McDonald or any of the other kind of figures that are just like part of a restaurant branding? That mascot's not a real person. Yeah. He's, he's, he's, he's mad that Grimace became a part of Ronald's crew and not him. Um, and also Heather did tell us that we fucked up on the pizza. She said that, uh, that the pizza chef, um, that the pizza chef from that location was like scooped up from the old country and, uh, and plopped in the

middle of West Hollywood. This is what Susser's saying to, to, to make pizzas for agents. Um, but, uh, the pizza, supposedly was really, really good and we didn't get it. Um, okay. So that's how you fucked up. You fucked up by not ordering the pizza. Yeah. And also she said that the, the brunch and dinner menus were completely different.

So we, we missed some stuff. Which I have, I have my dinner items. Please. As well. Yes. Let's hear them. And also, and also maybe like two more brunch items. Because, oh, and also relevant to this.

My kitchen is like having work done on it right now. We're putting in a set of stairs and, um, it is, it is true. It is true of where my kitchen is having work done right now. So I have not had access to a kitchen. So I was excited to just eat this place over and over. So I did go a little overboard and I'm not going to even get into everything I got. Uh, I got to save that for Butcher's daughter too. But another brunch item that I had that I thought was really, really good was

they had, it was called, I think the loaded banana bread and it was a banana bread with an espresso cream topping and, um, like a flambéed banana on the side. And when you take a piece of that banana and put it on top of that banana bread and eat it at the same time, it was delicious. That's like, that was one of the best, um, things that I tasted from here. Um, now on the dinner side, I love this. First of all, I had two juices. I had, I had the number four, which is the green.

And I had the number, I think one, which is the red. They come in this kind of fun packaging when you order them, uh, to go. Did, uh, how do they, how are they presented when you order them in? Uh, it's actually got in like a glass bottle, like a glass milk bottle. And here it looks like you got to have like a milk, uh, carton. Yeah. It comes in a little milk carton with, with a label that matches the juice you got. It tells you what's in it.

It's got Butcher's daughter on the back. Um, the one, the one downside is the lids were not, um, sealed. Like it's in the kind of lid that has the little, you know, like it should click when you open it, yes, but they were already open. So, uh, Mitch, if you can look at the chat real quick. Okay. That's another thing for Mitch to read directed at me. So they, they don't secure the lids.

Kind of think of it. I wonder if there was any Liger juice in that bad boy. Oh my God. I hope it doesn't say it on the label, but that's a good question, Mitch. Thank you. Thank you. So I thought the red, I'll have to say to that is sorry. Did you, did you put some juice in my juice, Liger?

Sorry. Um, I like the red juice a lot better than the green juice. The red juice was, and actually something you said, Mitch, like it was something that I've not had anywhere else before. It was mostly beets, but also pear and ginger. And it was like perfectly balanced where it was like not too sweet, um, but also not too like vegetable leaf from the beats. It was like this perfect balance of, of flavors.

I was very impressed with the juice. I also tried the hot elixir, um, because I have never had an elixir before. It, it kind of sounded like the shot that you took. Why great. It was like a little spicy. It was, you know, it honestly seemed like a kind of plus up hot toddy kind of situation. It was, you know, water and some spices and maybe a little lemon juice, but it was tasty. And I do feel elixed by it.

I feel protected. I will not be getting any further COVID boosters. I'm all good on that front. Um, and then I also had the butcher's burger, which I thought was really, really good. I thought their sandwiches like sound like they're very good. It was a black bean burger. It did have dairy on it, dairy cheese, um, but it was really delicious. It had like a little spice.

Uh, I don't know what else is on it, but that was really good. And the other entree, I split these with my wife. So I, you know, I tasted a little bit of everything. The other entree we had that we really liked was, and I don't even know if you guys had this available was the, um, what was it called? The pasta or a shetty, which was vegan. And it had a vegan pesto, uh, vegan cashew cheese and, um, I don't know, some, some kind of like a little crunch or something on there.

We've probably spent on this podcast, like, um, combined total, like 50 minutes trying to figure out how to say, or, or Keti or Keti. I think I know how did I pronounce it or a Keti probably closer to right than I'll ever get. I, I, I, I, I, we, or, or a Keti or Keti, I think it's, I think it's a cat, but I think the CH is a cuh, but it might be a or a Keti or a Keti. Or if we can look it up or a Keti or a Keti, I think if you just say it with an Italian accent, it's, it's more right.

Or Keti, or a Keti, or a Keti, or a Keti, or a Keti, or a Keti, or a Keti. Why, is that from the same source that told you about Richard Jules porno? Or a Keti or a Keti sounds like a, a, a wookiepedia entry. It's like a bounty hunter and extended universe. Um, the, uh, or, or, that's a rings, that's a rings of power. Yeah, or a Keti or Keti or Keti. I think it's like, I think, I think, so I think it is a CH, but it's like the, the Italian, which is more of a, a kchuh, kchuh, kchuh.

I love when you read it, when you read like or Keti. When you read about Orak, Jetty's like entry into the wookiepedia. It's like him and Subulba fought alongside in like the phantom wars. You're like, what the fuck? Uh-huh. Subulba was a veteran, I guess. He sucked off Zorba the hut. That was how he served.

Is it a young adult book? All right. My favorite one of those is, uh, there's a guy, there's a, there's a horse X-wing pilot named like Horhass Equith. And he's like, he's like a horse who, yeah, he's like a horse who, who flies an X-wing. And he like, it was married to Princess Leia for like three years. So he's like technically still the king of some planet.

You know what, he could be standing next to Weigart the Lertrain and Weigart would have bat an eye. All right. It's, um, what the fuck is his name? It's going to drive me nuts. Are you binging the horse character from Star Wars? And sorry, what did you, what do you think it is? Horse head?

It's like Horhass Equith or something like that. It's something like that. It's got, it's got like, it has, it sounds kind of horse-adjusted. Is this another made up thing? You're just thinking of Bojack Horseman. No, this one's real. Okay. It seems like maybe we were just thinking about Bojack Horseman.

Okay. Yeah. Here we go. I have a Wikipedia, Wikipedia here and it says whore. Okay. His name is Horhass and it says back in the nineties, uh, he was on a famous TV show. That, okay. That was what I was thinking of.

Yeah. Okay. That's on me. That's why the Wikipedia says back in the nineties. That's what it says. Uh, we got, we went on a tangent there. You were talking about the, uh, the orc jetty. Yes.

The, uh, orc jetty was good. And I've had a lot of vegan pastas in my days from restaurants. And this was definitely on the better end. It was, I feel like texture, texture was really good. I was going to bring the noodles, really good noodles. And I think most important for me when I'm getting a vegan pasta at a restaurant is I want to know it's like house made vegan cheese, because a lot of the, um, like brand cheese substitute brands, I find really gross and nasty.

Um, so I loved, I loved the, uh, cashew ricotta that was on that pasta. I thought it was, it was really good. Um, and then that's it on the entree side and I'll save the desserts. Well, let's talk about desserts a little bit. I kind of already touched on mine, which is as a vegan coconut strawberry muffin, but I will say I also had a latte. I had their seasonal latte, which was a cardamom rose latte. Uh, and, um, this is, uh, this is one of their special things where they have a

couple menu items where they were like part of it gets donated to a cause. So $2 for every cardamom rose latte gets donated to Planned Parenthood. Uh, and I, I told my server is like, my, look, my podcast partner is not going to like that. Can we, can we just put it in a different, different cause? She's like, no. Yeah. There was, there was, uh, there, the, the red juice, $2 went to Ukraine.

So that's why you didn't get it. I made that joke. I made that joke to like our server, Julia, but they were literally out. They didn't have it anymore. Um, uh, but hopefully we gave the $2 to Ukraine. I think, I think we did. Uh, yeah, we did. I'm sure we did.

Oh, how they didn't have the item. What happened? Oh, we, we, we just did. We did. Don't worry about it. Okay. We'll give it to you. Uh, so the, the, I'll say that this had a like the, like the sort of floor, the

rose, I've had various versions of like a rose, like Boba rose latte. And it's usually like the rose is like a little too much for me. Um, uh, but this one, this one kind of worked. This one was just like, it was like a little bit of a subtle sort of character to it. The thing that was weird about it. And it was a really well made latte. It was frothed up with a, without milk.

The issue is, as a garnish, they had floating rose petals in it. Hold on Mitch, look at the chat real quick. Okay. Notice there hasn't, I noticed there haven't been chats for me to say toward Mitch, just an interesting observation. I'm wondering if it was frothed up. Couldn't it have been with wager juice? I take this latte to the men's room for a minute.

Hold it above the latrine. I just looked at our, I just looked at our seats. Why is you're going to hate this? We didn't donate to Ukraine. We actually donated to the Putin. Oh, fuck. The Putin to pay fund. Oh boy.

Oh no. Now he's going to get a two pay and he's, he's famously bald, which is bad. Yeah. That makes him bad. He's going to be more likeable. He's going to be a nice two pay. He's going to be more likeable. The Putin to pay fund.

Oh my goodness. What a travesty. Anyway, it was a good latte. The thing is they had, they had, they had rose petals floating in it. And I was like, okay, maybe you're supposed to drink these, but I got a rose petal on my mouth. It was really unpleasant. I was like, I don't, so I, I fished them out with a fork.

I was like, this is just a weird presentation. I'm not sure why they did this. I don't, maybe these are edible, but they, but the texture is, is strange. Like they don't feel like things you should, you could swallow chewing them is not pleasant, so I don't know. That was an odd flourish. Mitch, let's talk your desserts. And then I want to hear Zach's desserts.

Wags, tell me that was a good interruption. It was, it was a good interruption, right? Oh yeah, it was great. No, I liked it. This is like the end of saving private Ryan when old man Damon is asking her to say he's a good man. I was at the end of this podcast. I was a funny man, right?

Wags? Yeah, yeah, you're real funny. Right. You songs grave. Wise. My last dessert is the, uh, the Dutch cocoa waffle, um, which is Earl gray Italian meringue, fresh raspberries, graham cracker, brittle. This doesn't seem like what we got.

Like that ingredient list seems different, but we got some chocolate waffles. That's all that matters. Also, our server made a joke of like with our sandwiches. He, he got our same and he was like, see, you guys didn't like it. He did that classic waiter joke wise. Love that joke. I like those. And also he also mentioned the podcast.

So I think there was literally five servers who mentioned the podcast because we mentioned it. And then also the owner, uh, all great. The staff was great. Yeah. My server was terrific. Those waffles were so good. They had like a marshmallow cream that you put on top of like a, like instead

of whipped cream, it was like almost a marshmallow cream. I guess it was just marshmallow. I'm an idiot. But anyways, chocolate waffles, syrup, it was very sweet. I think as an entree, it would have been tough, but as a dessert, as a breakfast dessert, which is a category I love a breakfast dessert. I, I, I loved it. I very close to my bite of the night, but my bite of the night, Zach gets beat

with that, that sandwich that sus had was just so unique, the portobello sandwich. So unique, so, so fantastic, uh, great texture. Uh, I really loved it. Um, but a great way to end the meal, just ended on a high note with these chocolate pancakes and wigs. We also got a sus got a coffee and I got myself a vanilla latte and, uh, we left there happy. Um, it was, it was, it was a lot of fun.

Uh, Zach, you got some, uh, you got some sweet treats. I did. Uh, and I also forgot one other thing I wanted to say, which is, uh, I also, we also tried because it was popular. I don't know if this is available at all the locations. We tried the mushroom and squash carbonara and I wanted to mention that because I think it, it is, um, uh, what is the word, um, emblematic of some things about the restaurant, which is this was like, uh, zucchini noodles.

I think like it was like vegetable noodles with a carbonara and I didn't think it was that good, which kind of reminds me of the, of the cauliflower steak, um, sure. Like, I feel like for me, that's the kind of stuff that I don't want to get at a restaurant. If I'm going to like shave a zucchini into a pile of noodle, I'd rather do it at home, you know, so I would say if you're going here, avoid the stuff that's like too crunchy, uh, yeah, I got to kind of just pure vegetables.

For dessert, I had the, um, hibiscus cheesecake, which was really good. I, I had low expectations going in because I've only ever, ever encountered hibiscus in a tea form, you know, like in a herbal tea situation. Didn't know what this was going to taste like, but it had these candied, um, things on top. I don't know exactly what they were, uh, some kind of vegetable or something. Maybe, maybe, maybe it was hibiscus.

I don't even know what hibiscus is. Um, I don't. It's a flower, I think you're asking the wrong guys. The host of this podcast also have no fucking idea. No, I'm pretty sure it's a flower. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

So it wasn't that then, um, but they had some type of candied something on top, but it was, it was really tasty. It was like a little bitter, but still a good dessert. I don't know. It was not what I was expecting, but I thought it was very, very good. And then we also tried the vegan brownie, which was okay. It was okay. Um, before we get to our final thoughts, I do, uh, I did have something to ask

Mitch, uh, did you donate some of the Doughboys money to the Matt Gaetz defense fund? Okay. Just to be clear, I typed that when we were talking about how a portion of the, of the proceeds of the juice goes somewhere. I didn't see it right away. That's on me. Well, I didn't call it to your attention.

I actually, I fucked up in all the, all the proceeds from the Doughathon went to that same fund, the, oh my God. It's supposed to go to restaurant workers. I know. They went to the Putin to pay fund. He's going to have such a nice to pay. They have to spend all of that money on one to pay. Interesting enough.

We never heard back from that charity. Uh-oh. They sent us a thank you email. Did they? Yeah, they did. And then also a picture of them, uh, on a beach with their feet up. Not picked up by any news sources, new news outlets, uh, uh, but you know, it's fine.

Why is we're not, we're not yet, we're not upset. It's, we, we didn't do it for those reasons, but when we had a certain actor on that really got traction. Anyways, um, my latte, my vanilla latte was really good. Um, I also looked up what Suss gave you shit about why he was cranky and it was good. Yeah. It was because he, you, you, he said that you brought the video game crunch to

Doughboys. Uh, that was unfair. This is really good. I agree with him. How do you agree with him? We, you want me to watch, you want me to watch playing strange and I would believe you else. Look, it doesn't matter, which is a good upcoming episode that we already had

in the calendar. That's the difference. The difference is that you didn't know it. You didn't do it in a time because we weren't paying attention. We were supposed to record the episode that's not, we had no guests. We didn't have a guest, which I got, but we had that plan in our calendar. I know you did. It worked out.

It's fine. This is ridiculous. You're acting so out of line. We have to get to the review. This is so unprofessional. I just want to say I'm thrilled. This is another Doughboys bingo, uh, an, an argument involving Evan Susser and logistics check.

I can, I can knock that one off. So thrilled to be here for this. I, if you really never want to come back, you have, you've seen everything this podcast is, you've seen it in all its horribleness. Um, but we would love to have you back. I just need to spill my coffee onto the, onto the computer. Yeah. No spells.

Um, wise, let's, let's give our final thoughts on this place. Let's do it. Oh, we'll go to our final thoughts. So Zach, you've, uh, you've listened to the podcast. You know how this works. We'll each go around, we'll give our closing argument, if you will, and end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks. You are our guest.

We'll begin with you. Yes. Um, so my final thoughts are, I think this is a very good restaurant for what it's trying to do. It's, um, you know, vegetarian or I don't know how they would even consider, maybe they would say like vegetable forward or plant based, whatever, but I think it's a great option. If you're looking to eat some vegetables, sorry, Cesar.

Um, and I also, as someone who tries to, you know, kind of, I kind of live between the vegan vegetarian world. I love a place like this because sometimes you do want like a little cheese on your burger, you know, but sometimes you want to get, uh, just a piece of cauliflower or I don't know. Um, I, I will say, I thought I knew what, what I was going to score it coming in, but having talked about it, I kind of want to have it for dinner again tonight. Um, are you giving us a TBD?

No, no, no, I'm not giving you a TBD. I'm saying that that bumps it up at least a half a four. The fact that I'm even considering, uh, going back, but I do think there were some misses on the menu. You know, there were a couple of things that, that weren't that good. I'm going to give it 4.25 forks. Wow. Four forks, one time, very good score from Zach Cherry, uh, Spoonman.

Um, look, I didn't know a lot about this restaurant going in unfairly judged it. Uh, and then unfairly judged our wonderful guest. What a great guest, lucky to have them. And you know what? Just like our guest, this place turns out to be pretty great. Why is I get that sauce is mad that there's no beef in the building. No beef in the building. Uh, that's a pork on the premises.

No beef in the building chicken in this kitchen. It's a, there's a, like a murder mystery slash comedy starring me and so snow beef in the building is coming out soon. Um, but we, we, we were, I was a little bummed out to, but this restaurant really changed my mind. Why is I, first of all, the staff was great. The dope boys can't be bought. We've talked about this before.

Um, and so it seems like you were almost about to budge on that. I mean, look, they were, they were very, they were, they were very, uh, I just saw the latest thing in the chat. Um, I, I, I, yeah, but it's just before we go any further, uh, judging Zach based on the restaurant was really fucked up. He seems really nice. I mean, yes. Thank you.

I agree. I agree. We were wrong. Me and sus were wrong. That's very nice of me to say, Nick. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Zach, like I said, this, this is, this is for me, this is getting into the, it's

getting to the golden play club. It is getting four forks. Um, I think that it's unique. It is pricey. I'm going to say that it's pricey. Not everything is a hit on the menu. Um, but once I took a bite of that sandwich that, that's us ordered that Portobello sandwich, I was jealous.

I didn't get it myself. It really just, it, it flipped the script on everything. I, I, it really changed the way I, I thought it flipped the script. It really changed the way I thought about this place. And after that, it was just kind of banger after banger after that. Why is, uh, we, the, uh, you know, the lemonade was great. My, our, our coffees afterwards were great. The, uh, the, the dessert waffle and both of our sandwiches, it's getting four

forks, a well-deserved four forks, the pricing, the environment is like not necessarily my place, but I don't know if like you're like a pig man, like me, you know, like anyone listening and you, you know, you don't like to sit down in a place that's like even decently fancy, you know, that, that, and that's an issue I have, but, um, it, it earned four forks. And also this, the staff was great. I love the staff's Julia server was great. And the owner was really nice.

I really liked talking to Heather, uh, but look, that's not why it's getting four forks and earned four forks, uh, why is, will it make the golden play club is the big question. Here I am sitting on my perch, on my pedestal as the person baton clean up, uh, always for the, for the almost all golden pedestal, when it comes to the, the golden pedestal, if you will, when it comes to our review scores, to our final thoughts, I thought I was going to be the one determining whether or not this gets into the platinum plate club.

Wow. I thought there was a chance this place would get five forks from each of you. Because let me tell you, I think what this place does, it does really well. I think as, as, as Zach's point, as a plant-based eatery that gives sort of an upscale fare that's also something of an indulgence, but you can also, you know, you can, you can choose how, how, how plant-faced you want to go. And you can choose how helpful you want to go. You can certainly have something.

Is that a Batman villain? Yeah. Plant-Face. He's a, he's a, he's also in the Star Wars extended universe. Yeah. I have his, I have his Wikipedia up here. It says, it does say back in the nineties that he was also on a TV show. It's a similar thing.

Yeah. Back in the nineties. Uh, I wonder who they're going to get to. I wonder what actor they're going to get to play plant-face. I'm, I'm, I'm really looking forward to it. Um, maybe one of the safty brothers. Probably Chris, Chris Pratt, the way things are going. Yeah.

Probably be Pratt. You know, don't talk about my friend that way. Hey, we got to, we got a role we got to fill. How about Pratt? He's available. Pratt, you know what's funny is we did talk about, we talked about the Mario movie on the way, on the way there and whether it should have been an Italian speaker like Roberto Bonini.

I've been very funny casting Roberto Bonini. Also, maybe we'll make a great plant face. Um, I think that he would be great. Uh, anyways, Wags, you, you, you, you, you thought, I agree. What you, what they're good at, they're very, they, they are very good at. Maybe I have to bump up my score. I don't know. I don't think anyone has, I don't think anyone has a bump.

I'm in, I'm in my head. I don't want to be bought because everyone's going to think that I, I'm doing it because of the people that I met there and the owner and everything. So I don't know. Yeah. I might have to bump up my score too. So before you say yours, Weiger, something you said, reminded me of something that I think is great about this place, which is you can decide how sort of like

healthy you want it to be or how much of an indulgence. Whereas in terms of like vegan restaurants, there's a lot of them popping up that are like vegan fast food, where all you can get there is like burgers and fries and milkshakes. Right. And that's great. And I love having those options. But sometimes you want to be able to do a little bit of that, but also get a

nice salad or have a, you know, whatever. So this place manages to live in both worlds of like, you can get your kind of trashy fast food type stuff. And then you can also have your more, I don't know, vegetable or what at more healthy stuff. So I'm going to have to bump up my score to five forks. Wow. Zach's going five forks.

I'm bumping up my score two Ys. Yeah. To five forks. Wow. Five forks from the spoon man, Mike Mitchell. So now you're the one who does have to decide whether it gets in the platinum. Now you're on the platinum pedestal. I'm on the, yeah, I'm on the platinum stool, which is another

name for the VIP latrine. Uh, and one, one other thing I'll say in this place's credit is that a lot of times these places have like a really, uh, like obnoxious menu names. And this place does not have that. Like it, it doesn't have like, well, what about the best egg sandwich ever? You said, you know, like, yeah, but. Okay. Yes.

But it's not, it's not like trying to be too cute. Like a lot of these places are trying to be like, like there, there's a, there's a place that has like cafe gratitude, you know, cafe gratitude. And like the name of the salad is like the, we love, we love ourselves salad. It's like, there's like an I am terrific smoothie you can get. It's just, it's all, they're all like these words of affirmation in the menu items and it's just, it's just a little bit exhausting. That said, I think this place does what it does really well.

If you get the, if you, if you get that we love ourselves salad, some of the proceeds go to the Putin to pay fund. Yeah. That's weird, but it helps the self-esteem. Uh, so does this place belong in the hallowed halls, the platinum plate club? You can look, look, you can be the, you can be the evilest piece of shit on earth, but you should feel good about yourself. You should still feel good about yourself.

You should feel good about yourself. It's important. 100%. Mental health is no joke. Uh, so all that said, the one downside to this place is the price. It is a little expensive. And I think for that reason, I'm going to give it four and a half forks. Welcome to the golden plate club, the butcher's daughter.

You know what? I'm changing my score. Yeah. I'm gonna go back four and a half forks. I'm gonna go back to 4.25. All right, 4.25. All right, great. We're ballpark buds.

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Mitch and Zach have to cook a meal, but the only ingredients at their disposal are animated sentient foods, i.e. VeggieTales. It's the debut of Let's Make a Meal. This was our associate producer, Amelia Marino's pitch. And she said this in twice. I thought it was going to be like Zach and Mitchy make a, you know, like a, like a Zach and Mary make a porno.

Oh, that's good. This can be Let's Make a Meal, Zach and Mitchy Make a Meal edition. Let's do, let's just make a porno. Make a porno. Zach and Mitchy make a porno. Yeah, something real sick that fucking Richard Jewel would love. Oh, I'm going to crank off to this, then do that bombing. Oh my God, he's guilty.

He's, he's guilty. Wow, he was guilty all along. He was guilty all along. By the way, I'm supposed to go to Nick Mason of Pink Floyd concert tonight with Bug Main. Bug Main was like, you want to go to Nick Mason? I was like, sure. Texting him.

I was like, tonight's the night, right? No response. I don't know if I'll ever hear from him. Maybe not going to this concert, but that's okay. I think there's a chance he just opens your door and walks in during this recording. That is also a possibility. I'm like, go to Nick Mason.

So I am like, oh, I should be ready just in case too. But you know, we'll see what happens. Who knows? Yeah. Yeah, well, you know what? I'd rather sit there here and not do anything at all. Uh, let's make this meal, Wigs. Yeah.

Amelia wrote, uh, this segment is so stupid, but I'll repitch it anyway. So she knows what she said. Uh, so let's make a meal. Mitch, Zach and Mitchy make a porno edition. Uh, so basically how this works is that you'll each draft style, you'll take turns selecting characters to create the more appetizing dish. And then I am the person who is going to choose the winning dish. And I have, I have some options here.

If you want help with some options or if you just want to brainstorm on your own, either way, uh, uh, Zach, uh, we'll let you decide if you want to go first or second, uh, and then we'll go, uh, we'll just take turns drafting. Is there a total number of picks we're going to, you know, like our meal is five things or something? I think that's probably a good number for five things. Let's say five things. Yeah.

Let's say, let's say four, let's say four items plus, uh, some sort of, uh, dessert or drink. Okay. I'll go, I'll go, uh, second. Okay. Great. Mitch, you're first. Because if I went first, they, as a listener of the show, I know sometimes,

uh, in these situations, Mitch will just change the rules and kind of take, um, take, take what he wants anyway. So I'll just go second to kind of avoid any, you know, any of that. Well, did you mess up by going second? Because what I choose first is steak. Okay. No, steak. No, wait, this might be the same issue that Evan Susser had going in this

restaurant. Oh wait. It's only veggies. No, it's sentient animated foods. It's like the veggie tales, like the cool, like the Kool-Aid man, like the M&M's. You can't just pick steak. Amelia, what the fuck? Oh, I thought it was specifically only the veggie tales.

And I was thinking to myself, my, my religious years finally paid off. No, I think, I think any, any food that's been portrayed as living is up for grabs. That's more fun. Yeah. All right. Number one, pizza the hut. That's a great pick.

Mm hmm. So delicious, he ate himself to death. Mm hmm. Pizza the hut. All right, Zach, your pick. Huh. Um, a sentient food. And I'm going second, so I should be ready with at least one idea.

Well, you know what? Let's start where I thought we were going to start in the world of the veggie tales. I'm going to choose one of the main veggie tales characters, the big old cucumber. You know what? Cucumber is great. I think it's a savvy pick because I think that has a lot of utility. I think there's a lot of things you could do with it. Always refreshing.

Uh, however, I don't think there's any chance Mitch would have picked a vegetable. So you maybe could have gotten into the later round. That's true. Shit. But he has accepted our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. So that's true. I wanted to make sure I got him off the board early. Um, and so now is this a snake situation or is this a mitch goes?

Uh, let's just take turns. I think yeah, I got to have a Mitch go so I can think for a second. Um, why is my second pick? Look, I was thinking, I was like, do I choose fry guys? But like fry guys aren't French fries. But then what it made me think of is the McDonald's chicken nuggets were at one point sentient. Oh, that's true.

So I'm choosing McNuggets. Wow. Hmm. What were those? Do you remember those characters were called? I don't know. I got to find out. Fuck.

Am I, can I not choose them if I can't figure it out? No, I'm just curious. I mean, we can look it up, but I just, you're going to take the McNuggets characters. Yeah, you can, you, yeah, if you want to feel free to bring all you want. I'm going to search McDonald's sentient nuggets. I don't know if that's going to, they're called the McNugget buddies. McNugget buddies. The McNugget buddies.

Yeah. And they are like little like muppety, uh, nugs. I feel bad that I, I do feel bad that I'd eat them. Yeah. Cause they have little mouths and, and eyes and souls. But also if you're eating regular chicken nuggets, I mean those, those at one point had a soul. It's just abstracted because you don't see a face.

Look at these cute little guys. I know they're cute as shit. Well, he's on my lap. So I was kind of trapped. Those are, those are nice. They're really cute, but that's also toothsome. All right. The McNugget buddies, uh, Zach, back to you.

I'm going to go with, uh, well, I had an idea, but now I'm wondering. So they're sent, is the fact that they're sent to it, does that play into the, the decision that you make, or are you looking at for the actual best meal? Well, I think that probably the overall. The personalities factor in is what I'm asking. Yeah. I mean, I think probably the meal quality is the main attribute, but I think these other factors could certainly affect things, you know, like it's, it's, it's a,

yeah, I would certainly consider all factors. Okay. Well, then I'm going to go with the California raisins. That's a great pick because they're cool. They are cool as hell. They're cool, but you got to eat them, by the way. You got to eat them. I could maybe go with some type of modified ants on a log with a cucumber.

I don't know what we're working towards. We'll figure it out as we keep going. Well, you got some pieces. I got my next one. Yeah. I don't know if there's a McDonald's version of this. There might be. I'm basically making a Trump White House dinner.

Like what, like what he gave to all the, like the college kids or whatever. Yes. Master Shake Wags. Wow. Master Shake from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Yeah. Wow. He's, I got a shake now.

Master Shake, a little obnoxious, a funny character, but an obnoxious character, probably to hang out. I thought he was, I thought he was kind of like the straight edge guy. Isn't he kind of like the one who like is the serious one? No, Shake is like, he's like, ah, like, ah, he's like kind of the aggro guy. You're thinking of Frylock. Yeah, Frylock is like the straight man. Fuck, I could have gotten fries.

Wait, so maybe you still can the next round. Master Shake is kind of like Gilbert Godfrey, basically. He's kind of got like, yeah, he's like a little bit of an annoying character. He sounds like that. Yeah, something like that. That's a good, that was good. That's pretty good. I'd love to, I'd love to know what it sounds like if Gilbert Godfrey ever got

in a room with Bill Clinton. Oh my God, President Clinton. Hey there, how's it going there? I loved you as Iago. All right, gentlemen, the flight is boarding. If you want to hop on. Take your seat. No.

Your first time on the Lolita? Oh no. I'm so excited. Now we're sitting on another dead man. Wow. Gilbert never did any of this shit. No, that's true. Gilbert was not in the plate logs.

I forgot he passed away, R.I.P. Jesus. Man, he was very funny. All right, Zach, your third pick. Well, for my third pick, I know, I know what he's going to do. I know it's the wrong segment for this. And I know this is the famous segment, Mitch and Zachy. What if Mitch and Zachy make a meal, make a porno edition?

What is it? Yeah, let's make a meal, Zach and Mitchy make a porno edition. Yeah, I'm really saying if you want to make a food basic, it could be Zach and Mitchy make a portion edition. What do you think porno is better? Yeah, let's stick with porno. Yeah, I like porno. We're going to sexy up our choices soon, I feel like.

Well, I'm about to do that. Oh, hell yeah. Let's make a meal, Zach and Mitchy make a porno edition. I'm going to have to ask if you'll let me be Frank. I choose Frank the hot dog from Food Fight. Wow. Or from Sausage Party. Wow.

Is that the main character? That's Seth Rogen's character, Frank the hot dog. I might core out my cucumber and stick the hot dog in there, kind of a Russian nesting doll. Situations, I could work. I think he's a he's a good guy to have around. He's curious. I think later in the movie, he gets kind of horny.

So, you know, we're making a porno after all. A dead movie does have an extremely horny ending. Frank the hot dog. Wow. You got you got you got the the character of Zach from Zach and Murray as well. Yeah. Oh, that's true. There you go. Yeah. By the way, when you said you were like you were going to say something, pick something horny, I had a completely different food in mind.

I'm curious if Mitch is going to pick it. Put it in the chat for me. I might pick it next. OK, OK. It's it's too late. It's going to get picked right now. I choose YG's. Uh-huh. The M&M's, including that fucking bombshell, that green M&M.

Yeah, that was a sexy green M&M. Yeah, the sexy green M&M. I'm choosing the sentient M&M's as a dessert. Um, hey, maybe I'll throw something in my shake. Oh, there you go. Yeah. Maybe I'll throw some of the sexy green M&M in the master shake. Drink it up. You've kind of you've kind of taken on different strategies here.

Zach has kind of like taken the exercise to heart and is trying to pick ingredients from which he can make a meal. You're just picking existing fast food items. And so you can have pizza. Yes, I'm making that that famous meal of the hot dog cucumber raisin. Oh, you got an issue with pizza and McDonald's and shakes. It's no honestly, it sounds fucking good with M&M's. It sounds great. I like all these things.

Zach, your fourth thing. Wait, are there fifth picks? I think fourth, I think we can end on four. All right, we'll end at four. And I'm going to go with I'm not 100 percent sure this is sentient, but I got to go with the Weigar juice. All right, it fits. It fits my menu.

It's you know what? It is it is it is a bit like the stuff it is it is it sentient in a way. I don't know if you've ever seen the movie, the stuff I have it. So it's very similar to Weigar. It's very similar to Weigar juice. Stuff is worth a watch. What if I think that's a great pick as a good pick? Also, you know what, Zach?

I appreciate a guest being like, we've never had a guest say that before, which they should do more often, which is like, we can end this on four. Why not? You're right. We can pick five things. This is a to recap, Mitch's squad, pizza, the hut, McNugget buggy, make McNugget, McNugget buddies, Master Shake and yeah, like a little little carriage to get right around in Master Shake and M&M's. Zach has cucumber, California raisins.

I'm sorry, the cucumber from Veggie Tales of California raisins, Frank the hot dog and and Weigar juice. Still on the board, some options, by the way, you could have taken Mr. Peanut, you could have taken the let's all let's all go to the lobby. Movie theater characters, another option. And of course, the Kool-Aid man. Yeah, you want yourself a beverage. And I need a drink.

Yeah, we both can we both just have the Kool-Aid man? Are you both get the Kool-Aid man? I like that. Thank you. OK. Yeah. And to but to who's meal. I say, oh, yeah, shake, too. Can I have the milkshake? OK, yeah, you can also have Master Shake.

OK. OK, wait, what can I can also have the Weigar juice? No, I'm out. You have to wait three minutes. Just like a restaurant, your feedback. Let's open the feedback. And the butcher's daughter staff is listening to this. Like, what the fuck is this shit?

This is they reviewed our restaurant. Talking about Weigar juice. They loved our restaurant. We're going to drive by. They're going to be shuttering it. Was that Richard Jewel thing real? Just like a restaurant by your feedback. Let's open the feedback.

Today, we have an email from Miriam and Sally. They write, ahoy, dough people. We are Miriam and Sally, a pair of sisters from New Hampshire. What's up, Emma? We are in Newmarket Durham. If that means anything to you. I mean, anything to you? Oh, yeah.

That's like 20 minutes from where I grew up. Wow. Wow. We both work in special education for these freaks, Emma. Oh, fuck, yeah. Yeah. God bless you, Miriam and Sally, working in special education middle school and Sally's adopted a break and choose snack or whack reward

system for her students. They get to try a new or unusual snack on Fridays if they accomplish their goals for the week. Some examples of the pastor's zaps, evil eye chips, pumpkin spice Oreos, and werewolf polar seltzer. Our question. Wow. More like a special request is, what would be a good snack or whack or drink or stank

for a handful of middle schoolers? Would love to pay a mod to the origin of the special Friday treat. Thanks for any and all ideas. Sally from Burger Brigade and Miriam from Spoon Nation. So there you go. Hell yeah, I love that split up, too. I'm going to pull a mitch and walk away for a second

and bring a prop back. OK. Wow. Because I have the perfect item. All right, Zach is standing and leaving. While that's happening, Emma, you're giving Jimmy a little pet back there. Very, very cute. Nice big yawn. She's very talkative today.

Yeah. First of all, I just want to say thank you for what you do with it to. God bless you. What are their names again? Miriam and Sally. Miriam and Sally, you guys rule. Yeah, shout it out. That's awesome.

I stepped on on what you were saying when I was saying telling Emma not to dox herself to these freaks. But that's that's my parents sold that house. I don't live there anymore. It's OK. All right. All right. That's good. But but also that's that that's that rules. That yeah, I don't have a good answer off the top of my head. We're looking for like something

Halloweeny in that in that respect. Wags like like well, this will be after Halloween. We're in November now. So I mean, I think I think it's more like, hey, this would be any given Friday. So so it seems like this is a Friday tradition. If they accomplish the goals for the week, they get a new or unusual snack. So what would be a good one of those? Zach, you walked away. You've returned.

Something is crinkling. I have an answer. I will also say, you know, as a big fan of the show, the downside of being on it is that I don't get a new episode whenever this comes out. But I'm glad that I walked away because there will still be a little segment that I don't know what's coming. So don't tell me what I missed. I'm excited to listen to this in the future.

But I have with me a new snack that I've discovered. Wow. Wow. Well, I haven't discovered. I'm not, you know, Christopher Columbus of snack foods. But I tried these for the first time. Dang Thai rice chips. I've got two flavors here, the sriracha spice and the toasted sesame. The sriracha spice, they're both good.

The sriracha spice is a snack and a half to the point where I ate like three of them and immediately ordered like an 18 pack of a variety flavors of this snack. They're delicious. So. Wow. Dang. Dang Thai rice crisps, crisps, chips. Hell, yeah, those are good. I read that as great. Dong, when you first held it up, but those look tasty as hell.

Dong Thai rice. Chips crisps. Am I am I allowed to ask you to edit things out? Yeah, anytime. I said that perfectly the first time. But anyway, they're good. They're really good. Wow. I want to try them. They look they that they sound good as hell.

I like. Look, I'm like, if I was thinking like the wags you reviewed on Snackerwack, the zaps, voodoo chips, I think stuff like that is fun. But I'm like, when I when I'm thinking about this, the thing that for middle schoolers, the thing that like the most fun thing to me is like a snack that tastes good, but is also fun. Gushers, for instance, my shortures, they gush in your mouth, fruit by the foot.

I love fruit by the foot. Yeah, that's a nice and long, sour straws. You can like breathe air through them. Yeah, like a big old nerd rope, nerd rope. Yeah. My answer sucks. Why does your answer suck? Because it's handy snacks.

I love handy snacks. I don't think that's a bad answer. I honestly, that's one of those things where I where if I got a handy snack, a surprise handy snack, I could be like, oh, wait, I fucking love these. But do kids but do kids get handy snack? Because I mean, it's one of it's one of those three. It would I'm like thinking in my head back in school and I'm like, either I'd want a fruit by the foot.

What is a handy snack or a handy snack? Handy snacks or the crackers and cheese is a little red piece of plastic that you put on each cracker. And those three are like the first things that popped into my mind that like, that's that's what I want. I don't know how popular they are anymore. Why is that? I don't know what the deal is. But what about like pickle chips like dill pickle chips?

They're kind of weird, but kind of fun. That's good. Those are good. That's a great answer. I was I was going to say a couple of things. First off, because I'm just thinking of that age range and like how much like I loved pizza and I feel like if you get something that's got like a pizza flavor, that can be a fun thing for kids to try.

So I'm going to suggest the Pringles pizza flavor, the pizza flavor Pringles. Also, that can is fun and, you know, the big tall the big tall boy. The other thing I would suggest is. Kit Kats have a bunch of different varietals that you can try like the ones that like right now they have a blueberry muffin one that I haven't tried. They also have the Kit Kat Duos, which are like, you know, they're they're like two flavors and one they have one that's like strawberry

chocolate, they've got one that that's mocha chocolate. And so you could you could look for some of those. But also if you have access to some sort of import store, I'm not sure what exactly is in your your area in Jesus, like the Internet. Or yeah, the Internet, I guess. I don't know. But maybe you have a local like like local Asian market that stocks these. But also, yeah, you could order online. So go to your go to your local importery and you could probably find out your local

importery. This is not crazy. No, these exist. Seems like a lot of work, but go on. I don't know what their city. I don't know what their situation is. Maybe they're like, hey, we have this local market where you can get imported foods. I don't know. Maybe that exists. If I did, I forgot to mention, I did get these at the importery.

Dang chips, get them at the importery. But if you start getting if you start getting Japanese KitKats, we've tasted some of these before on the show, Mitch, a bunch of a bunch of good options. And then the other thing I'll just say, because you're in New England, you're not too far from the Great White North. You could probably get yourself some some all dressed, some, you know, some Canadian chips that aren't common in the States. But, you know, I bet this is one of those things where we could really come up

with something good or our listeners could really come up with something good. If we if we crowdsource this. Yes. I just thought of something that I haven't tried. And I wonder if either of you have tried it or or even maybe already done a snack or like, have you seen the Doritos roulette? I have seen those, but I haven't had them. It's like a Doritos bag where some of them are hot. Like most of them are not spicy, but every so often one is spicy.

That might be fun, although maybe not. That's a good one. I had a thought. Let's hear it, Emma. I got, I got, I got a new idea too. That's going to, that's going to just kill with middle schoolers. I can't. Okay.

Well, my thoughts super regionally specific, but there's a candy store in Kittery, Maine. It's like right over the border into Maine called Yummies Candy and Nuts. And it is like every candy you could ever think of. It's every candy, it's candies. I thought they didn't even make any more that I haven't seen since I was kids. Kid, they have all these chocolate covered things, like weird stuff. And it's probably about 40 minutes from New Market where they are.

But you could stock up for months with just like random little candies and stuff, which would be a really good place to go. If we were to name a candy store, I feel like that's what we would name it. Yummies Candy and Nuts. Candy and Nuts. Maybe, maybe Mummy's Candy and Nuts. Um, that one should have gone in the chat for Weigar. No, I like that you said it.

Yes, you, you've now earned it. You've now earned it to say everything to our faces. You can tell us that you should, you should tell us to shut the fuck up more often. I, I, my, my thought went to Weigar. It's just because it's been on the brain, but a candy apple, you're up in New England, nice candy. That's like, this is a big treat. You know, if you get these for everybody in the class, it's a big treat.

Yeah. But then I thought, and I think that that would be, I would, I would like that as a middle school. But then I thought, what's going to bring the, what's going to bring the house down for middle schoolers. And I got it. Box of boogers, the tangy, gummy boogies that look and feel real, but taste delicious, gummy boogers, box of boogers.

Come on. Kids, I don't want to be fun. It's disgusting, but I think it would crush. I think that's, that's, that's perfect. That's who this is for. Box of boogers. And at least they taste good. Unlike those jelly beans, you know.

Yeah, yeah, those are, those are horrid. Give me the, give me the thing that like, oh, it's a box of boogers, but these are tangy and, and sour and gummy and they're good. The, the Harry potty, the Harry Potter ones are, that's fucking disgusting. I want my food to look disgusting and taste good. Right. Agreed. A hundred percent.

That's the dough boys way. I hope this doesn't result in, uh, uh, hey, dough boys, we got the box of boogers for our kids, uh, parents complained. And, uh, we got fired. Jesus Christ. Well, welcome aboard dough boys media. Uh, if you guys have any, uh, any suggestions out there for Miriam and Sally, hashtag, uh, fry yay snack, fry yay snack.

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Perfect timing. I'm glad you get to watch all of raw on mute while we're recording this episode. And hold on. I'm, I'm actually coming up on the after credit scene of Richard Jewel. Okay. Whoa. Yeah. Okay.

No, Weigar, you were right. All right. Great. Glad to have that affirmed and glad to have you here. Zach Cherry, uh, such a funny dude, such a great actor, um, a really, really happy that you that you were able to give us so much of your time. Um, and, uh, thank you for being here. God bless you for like, for liking the show.

Um, Zach, do you have anything you would like to plug it this time? Uh, check out Severin's, um, eventually the great American baking show will come out on Roku. Check that out. It was a lot of fun. Um, and, uh, Weigar juice. By the way, if there's anything that you make us suspicious of Zach, it is that he likes the podcast.

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