Doughboys - The Halal Guys with Dave Schilling

Episode Date: February 1, 2018

The 'boys welcome guest Dave Schilling (Bleacher Report, The Masked Man Podcast) to discuss NYC food cart turned nationwide fast food chain The Halal Guys. Dave brings along a homemade sweet treat for another edition of Snack or Wack.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

He has only forbidden you what dies of itself, and blood, and flesh of swine, and that over which any other name than that of God has been invoked. But whoever is driven a necessity, not desiring, nor exceeding the limit, no sin shall be upon him. Surely a law is forgiving, merciful. This passage in the second chapter of the Qur'an is what most directly spells out Islamic dietary law, a set of guidelines roughly akin to kosher law, in which most notably bans consumption of alcohol and pork.

In the 7th century, the Prophet Muhammad raised a 10,000 strong army of converts loyal to his new faith, and began the Muslim conquest, which would spread Islam first across the Arab peninsula, and after his death in 632 CE, throughout the Middle East and into North Africa. In 639 CE, the conquest of Egypt began, and the Muslim army made quick work of the ruling Byzantine Empire's forces, which were thin because of its own prior wars with the Persians. In 641 CE, the Egyptian city of Alexandria, named for the centuries earlier conqueror Alexander the Great, fell, and Egypt has remained a Muslim majority state since, though a Coptic Christian minority remains.

As Islamic dietary law became the law of the land, its culinary prohibitions would heavily influence Middle Eastern cuisine. Pork excise is a protein in favor of chicken, lamb, and beef. Flash forward to 1990, when a trio of Egyptian Americans named Muhammad, Ahmed, and Abdel Basat opened their version of that New York City street food staple that's as ubiquitous as the Pizza by the Slice joint, a hot dog cart. Just two years later, tired of being yet another interchangeable vendor slinging tube steaks to harried commuters, Muhammad and his partners switched to serving a Middle Eastern menu of

euros, chicken, and pita bread, an innovation that would transform both their fates and the Manhattan food cart scene. The enormous popularity of their menu, including a white sauce so addictive one might think it haram, led to lines snaking through the sidewalks in 90 minute waits, and they opened more carts to accommodate the crowds. In 2013, the men opened their first storefront version of the concept, and in short order formed a partnership with Fransmart, a franchising consultant that helped take five guys in Q'doba nationwide.

Now with close to 200 locations either already operating or slated to open, this New York chain funded by three Egyptian immigrants is a uniquely American success story that continues to ascribe to the Islamic law from which it takes its name. This week on Doe Boys, the Halal Guys. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weigar, alongside my co-host, the smartest man I know, not the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. A classic not roast.

This one was courtesy of at Captain Zach Geary, the subject line, all caps, boom roasted. Well done, Zach. Is that from the past? Did it come from the past? He sent it from the timestamp, said it was sent from 1991. Was that Borat? Oh my God. It was Borat, and I think before that, Wayne's World was the popularizer of that.

RoastSpoonMan at gmail.com. If you have an insult you'd like me to use on Mitch at the top of the show. Weigar, we're back in it. We're back in the, we're back in the, we're back home. This is our fourth or fifth episode we will have released this year, but this is the first one we're recording at your home base in here in 2018. And things are going to change this year. You know what I want to tell you?

I want to keep it for the first home episode. The Spoon Man is dead. The Spoon Man is dead? The Spoon Man is dead. I want you to call me Mitchy Two Spoons. Like a good fellow's style nickname, Mitchy Two Spoons? New name and new attitude in the new year. What's the new attitude?

I'm a smooth guy now. What was the Spoon Man's energy before that? He was a wild man. I'm smooth this year. So Spoon Man was, Spoon Man was larger than life. You're still physically large, but you're, not for long, you're, oh, you're a little smooth. Oh, and you're going to slim down a little bit.

You're going to be smaller than you, probably in the month. Mitchy Two Spoons though. I don't think you should crash diet. Crash diet. Is this episode moon juice? Is that the plan here? Anyway, to Mitchy Two Spoon Nation, and here's a little drop. Oh, no.

Oh, the drop's worth the same. Not seeming too smooth right now. Shut the fuck up, Wiger. My style will change. Mitchy Two Spoons, maybe Mitchy No Drop. That should be your nickname. I'm not Mitchy No Drop. I think you might be.

This one said short. This yesterday, I put some like an eight inch classic dog through my pants, put it so far down my throat that I was gagging and I saw lipstick smeared on it from my lips and I almost came. Yeah, I've done that. I've done that move more than once. Yeah. It might be a go-to.

You know what, as someone with an eight inch dog, I am very insulted. We don't do things of that nature, okay? This is from Corey Casswell. Thank you, Corey. It feels like this is the second in a line of horny drops we've had recently. People are doing the new year. 2018 is a horny year. That's my Twitter handle is at horny drops.

Follow me on there, guys. Nick. Yes. Anything new in this new year? Well, I mean, you know, we're out where. Hey, we're independent as of now, we're going to see what we're going to do with a podcast network moving forward. Who knows?

That's true. We don't know. We don't know. We haven't decided. Who knows? Who cares? Who cares? It's not important.

I mean, this doesn't matter. It's the same bad show. I got a story for you. Yes. I was at a wedding this last weekend. Jack Allison got married. Congrats to Jack and Kate. Lovely wedding.

Congrats to Jack and Kate. We all want a big group of guys. We all want to take a picture together. We look around all the, all the guys that we're all together, we're ready to take the picture. Weigar is nowhere to be found. Right. You want to be in this group shot.

We wanted Weigar in this group picture. We find out he's in his hotel room. At this point, it's about 945. It was 10pm. Oh, okay. It was 10pm. I was very tired. It was 10pm.

We walked up to his hotel room. Very intrusive. Knocked on the door. Look, I wasn't the one who put this together. I was making jokes the whole time as we were rocking up. I thought it was funny. We knocked on your door. You took a picture with us and it's maybe the funniest photo I've ever seen you look

insanely depressed. Right. I was, I was disrobed. I was about to hit the, hey, you guys are all up and dressed to the nines in your wedding garb. And so I like, I reluctantly, because you wouldn't have let me alone otherwise, I reluctantly like threw on a track jacket and it was very cold. I put on a skull cap and then I walked outside and did not smile.

I didn't smile. I wasn't happy. I'm sorry. What time did this wedding end? I mean, the actual ceremony ended a little bit before then the wedding was at four. Yeah. And then I've seen enough. Right.

Right. My best to the bride and groom. So what time did you believe that it was 10pm? I'd stuck around for the bulk of the festivities. I was there for the first dance. This is your fault for being in bed at 10pm. I'm an early riser. We've discussed this before.

That's insane. You're going to take a picture with all the boys. I didn't know this picture was happening. I was blindsided by it. You're going to assume the boys are going to get together for a photo. It's a wedding. Hey, you're with the boys. Snap, snap.

You're with the boys, baby. Dude, Saturdays are for the boys. Look, bitch, we might as well introduce our guest. It was a Saturday. Yes. A writer at large for Bleacher report in the coast of the ringers wrestling podcast, the masked man show Dave Schilling is here. Hi, Dave.

Hello. Thanks so much for making time for us. You're very welcome. I heard there was food and I couldn't say no. That was it. I was like, I don't want to do a podcast, but you're going to pay for my meal. Dave, you're a married man.

Did your wedding go to all hours of the night? What kind of ceremony and reception did you have? They enjoyed themselves. What are you insane? Oh, it was wild, buddy. Oh, man. Armin was at your wedding? Yeah, our mutual friend Armin Weitzman was there.

And he was cutting a rug. Of course he was. What the hell? No, he was not dancing at all. He was in the corner being uncomfortable. Trying to figure out when he can sneak away and smoke weed. Yes, OK. Yeah, we ended up going to another place.

It was on an island though. Oh, that's fun. It was on Catalina Island. Oh, that's awesome. So you could walk to whatever bar you wanted to. There was no driving. The venue for the wedding was in the hotel where we were all staying. It was like a summer camp.

And not to mention you had a strict 10 p.m. curfew. Well, I was in bed by 10. You imagine the groom is like, you know what? I've seen enough. I'm going to be married to this person for years. I don't need any more of this. It seems like it seems like a daunting task that maybe I will never have to do.

But being the bride or groom and having to say hello to everyone and stay up for an all hour, it seems like too much. Making the rounds, saying hi to everyone. It seems like a lot. That's why there was so much cocaine at my wedding. It was December, it was snowing. It was great. There was no cocaine at my wedding, as far as I know.

If Wagner did coke, I feel like steam would come out of his ears and there would be no other reaction. It would just vent off. I can't imagine doing any sort of hard drug like that. I feel like that would be a bad scene for me. I'm such a buttoned up guy. I don't think I could handle it. No reason to start now, my friend.

I think so. I think I'll just go to the grave without having tried any of the hearts. We should do a future snack or whack. A little line of cocaine. When we run out of ideas, that's probably what we'll do at some point. I'm not going to try booger sugar on the podcast. That stuff's off the table. Zero forks, but I give it five rolled up dollar bills.

Booger sugar? God. Why do you have to act like you're from the 1930s? 30. I mean, I know that booger sugar is a more contemporary. I know, but you always are like, hey, like, come on now toots. Like you sound like a 1930s guy. It's like a thing Rodney Dangerfield would say in Caddyshack.

It's ridiculous. Booger sugar. Not from another time. Dave, this is a big news for a big week for sports news. It is. You're something of a, I mean, you're a big time sport. Mitch and I are both sportos. So Super Bowl is approaching.

We just had the blockbuster Blake Griffin trade. Correct. And then this is, this is something Mitch is very upset about. Chief Wahoo being taken off of the Cleveland Indians merchandise. It's weird. Mitch has this giant chief Wahoo tattoo on his back. He's very proud to show anyone. It doesn't matter who it is.

Yeah. And also Red Sox fan too. So it's just completely look, this is fucked up. First of all, second of all, I will say this, that I know that chief Wahoo is bad. Yes. But I'll miss old chief Wahoo. That's okay to say. I mean, I grew up with major league and stuff.

Sure. And it's like, it's an iconic image. And I know that it's bad and it's offensive and it's racist. So good. Get rid of it. I'm a hundred percent behind that iconic image. That's like saying like a minstrel show is iconic. Very important cultural touchstone.

It's good that you're here to Joel's and wearing black face. I need you to talk me through this a little bit because you are right. I mean, it should be gone. It is. It's bad. You know that my mascot is the the Yaku, which also has is under fire right now. They people want to get junk. Is that Jakku?

Yeah. Yaku. Oh, okay. Jakku. Not raised homeworld. Yeah. No. God, no.

How many portions? Zero portions for Jakku. Five portions for. Yeah. I mean, we're not. It's not on a five portion scale. Is it? But this was your.

No, I don't think so. It's four portions. Quarter portions. Okay. This is my. This is my high school mascot. Yes. The Yaku.

Right. And that little vaguely problematic. There's some. There's some. The origin apparently it's connected to a an actual figure in the town, but it also like the image itself is kind of the guy is Armenian. I don't even know if he is Native American at all, but like he wasn't supposed to. I mean, it's just it's it's Armenian and Armenian mascot.

He but like and like he's he has a like a Native American or American Indian head dress on and a Tomahawk. So essentially they just didn't care. They're like, well, let's just find some race. Yeah. It's a mess. It was it was basically drawn. It was it was drawn based on him.

So it looks just it does look like him. Okay. But it you know it's it's he's has a Tomahawk and like a and a headdress so it it's it's I don't know it's it's a it's and a lot of like he is very he loves it. Obviously Dr. Yakubian, but now people want it to go in and I don't know. I honestly I don't I don't know. I have no idea. I stay out of it.

If it goes, oh, well, it's gone. If you stay out of it. Like there's a Facebook group. People are debating this high school mascot. There's there's there's there's there's a huge discussion about because some people are I don't know people people get weird with stuff like this. People have an irrational attachment to their like their high school. Yeah.

And I think with the Cleveland who I mean it's a it's a sports team, but I don't know. Some people some people get attached to that too. I don't know. I have no idea. My high school mascot was a bear with a yarmulke. Is that true? No.

I mean that'd be awesome though. That should be a mascot. Myers bear wits. That's not true. No Notre Dame has the fighting Irish in Irish is that and I don't I'm trying to I'm I'm not even trying to be like if that's offensive. This is offensive. I'm saying is that is that offensive?

Does he have a drinking problem? I don't know. Is he eating potatoes for every meal? He's got his fists up. He's ready to start trouble. Yeah. That's true. Yeah.

Are you happy? Are you happy while who is is getting the boot? Get him out of here. He should have been out of your years ago fair. I think maybe even renamed the team. Yeah. Call him the. I don't know what would you call him?

The Buckeyes. I was taken. That's taken. It's literally taken. The Browns, the Jets, the Browns adjacent. I don't know. I mean, this stuff is so much tied into the name of the team and the identity. It's also incredibly offensive.

Same thing with the Washington football team. The mascot is bad. The name is bad. It's all bad. Yeah. So it's just a piecemeal difference. They haven't addressed the actual problem. Right.

It's also too. It's like and I think because you mentioned Washington for me as someone who follows NBA more than really, I mean, I really don't follow any other sports at this point. The Washington Bullets becoming the Washington Wizards was such like it was. Teams already make these changes and sometimes they're kind of almost even arbitrary. Like that to me was like less of a thing that needed to be addressed than certainly the Redskins issue. Yeah.

So it's like. Yeah. It's so weird. Like it's like these team names. I feel like so much is like wrapped up in like the it's there's they're talking about like, oh, it's it's tied to history or whatever. This is our franchise's history. This is what we have established, but it's like that can just be an excuse for like holding

on to something that upsets a lot of people and also fundamentally like the name of a mascot of a team is so arbitrary. Why not just change it to something that's more acceptable in this day and age? Fair enough. Once you change it, then there's going to be a large section of the population who's like, why don't you change it back with the right wizards? They are still saying they should just be the bullets again. Sure.

But more people get killed in man shootings than ever. But does does the name the bullets change any of that? Or is it just a bad reminder of that? I mean, it's it's I look. Weigler knows this about me. The last thing I want is truly you know that this is true. I don't want anyone to be offended or be hurt by anything that I like a feel or I mean, regardless of how I feel about any of this stuff, like I don't want someone to be offended

by what I say or do and I don't want to ever want to make anyone feel bad. So if there are people break a lot of hearts with your Disney Star Wars takes, upset a lot of people with those. Yeah. But how is that going to make people how is that how is that going to make people feel bad that I don't like the movie? They can like the movie. I'm not going to like them any less.

They like you and they're like this guy. I like doesn't like this thing. I like but that's so I but I like other things that they like and I'll dislike some stuff that they they will like dislike some stuff together and will like some stuff together. Hey, do you like Dave Matthews band because Mitch likes that? I do like Dave Matthews band and guess what? People tell me they suck constantly. I don't give a shit.

That's fine. But but honestly, that was the last thing I said to you before we started recording that they suck under Dave Matthews band sucks. But if someone if someone if people are truly offended by this stuff, I then I'm like, well, people feel bad. I don't want people to feel bad and that's how I feel about it. My question of this is and this is crazy that I'm a guy. I'm a guy.

I'm uncomfortable talking about it obviously as the widest man who's ever lived. But as far as like can you have a mascot that is just an Indian or is it just is it off limits? Should it just be off limits? What do you think? Well, that's a big question. The the Washington situation is very specific and very unique because it's a racial slur. Right. Yes.

It's not like you can say well Cleveland Indians is just like, you know, we really like Indian people. They're kind of braves. They're brave Indians. Native Americans actually we don't even call them Indians anymore. And then you got the Kansas City Chiefs. There's a lot of these names floating around that are really just kind of ridiculous because it's related to race and not history.

There's never been a Native American owner of any of these teams. True. It's not like there's a bunch of great Native American athletes who played for these teams. They're a great Native American athletes. But can you name a Native American who played for Washington? No, no. And it's hard to even name a Native American athletes and Jim Thorpe is probably the only one you can think of.

I did a book report on Jim Thorpe in fifth grade. There you go. Well, then I made a whole whole thing on poster board. The floor is yours. Hey, you know Jim Thorpe their argument for the greatest athlete of the 20th century. It was a he was he was a football star and he's also an Olympic medalist. He was kind of akin to Jackie Robinson in terms of being good in in multiple sports across multiple disciplines and also something of a trailblazer.

And it wasn't it wasn't Jacoby Ellsbury. Wasn't he a part American Indian? I believe so. I could be wrong. I thought he was. I'm not going to speak for him or his parents. But God know I'm in trouble again. But no, it's an interesting thing and I never feel comfortable talking about it.

And it's not and I have no right to even be speaking about it. I just I just wonder on here you are. You chose to dig us into this hole. You're the one who brought it up. You mother fucker. I had a one off joke. You could have just blaze past. Oh, it's an interesting discussion.

And I think that it's good to talk about these things together as human beings. It's good. Here's what I would say. Why do we have to worry about it? Daming all these giving all these teams these problematic names? Well, there are so many cool animals and dinosaurs that teams aren't named after. Why is this raised his fist in the air? You can attest to this.

Where the T-Rex is where the stegosaurus is where the triceratops. There are so many animals that don't have any raised his fist up. The pterodactyls. That's pretty cool. What about Star Wars creatures? Oh, there you go. Oh, God. Some Banthas in there.

Some Jawas. Hey, you know, how about some Toy Darians? Those aren't probably. I like. I like. Oh, God. Wado is cool. Nothing wrong with Wado.

Wado is very thrifty. Let's be honest. That's a thing kids should consider when they want to grow up and be a successful person. The Miami Quarter portions. You know, I don't regret opening up that discussion because I thought it was interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Why not?

I look forward to being on Morning Joe to talk about this this topic. After this appearance, I'm sure they're going to want me on there. You're going to go on Morning Joe and you end up talking about like Wendy's buns or something like that. We'll go on the complete opposite. How many sports do you give that? Well, Joe, I'm glad you asked. Isn't this a gimmick from another show?

Dave. So one thing I wanted and I don't want to just just just talk sports, but because we have you and because I'm someone who's I'm a very lapsed wrestling fan. But speaking from my own personal interest as someone who like, you know, I don't follow what's going on. W.W. Andy wrestling at all. Buddy Mike Carlson in front of the show, Mike Carlson took me to a PWG event about

a month ago and it blew my mind. It was one of those amazing live shows I've ever seen. It was so phenomenally entertaining. I mean, this is this is a promotion that I guess is kind of the feeder to WWE. Is that how it's known? Yeah. Well, PWG throws on this big show every year called the Battle of Los Angeles, which is a tournament akin to if you remember the Royal or the King of the Ring.

Okay. Yeah. In the 90s. And the winners tend to go on to do really great things in WWE or in New Japan. Marty Skurl, who's in the Bullet Club in New Japan, won. I believe I think Kevin Owens won Kevin Owens is a former Universal Champion in WWE. And it's in this tiny little, as you know, American Legion Hall in the valley and there's no air conditioning and it's very hard to get tickets and tiny hot space.

Yeah. Super hot. It's become kind of a gathering spot for a lot of the, and I hate to say this, elite wrestling fans of Los Angeles. Because that's embarrassing. Right. Because with the best neckbeards in Los Angeles. I gotta get over there.

Yeah, you really do. They love you. They would, Mitch, because I got recognized multiple times as a Doughboy's host. It's something that does not happen in most situations, but the overlap between people who would attend an indie wrestling event at an American Legion Hall and like a Friday night and people who would listen to a chain restaurant podcast is apparently very high. Man, we would have a good view. I mean, at this point, we would have started as a tag team and had broken up and had, we

would have had a feud against each other, right? I would have thrown him into a barbershop window or something. I imagine you being the Shawn Michaels for some reason. Hell, yes. Oh boy. Yes. Shawn Michaels is so cool. You're a pure baby face.

You're just like a nice guy and Mitch has his dark side. I do have a little dark side. Wally and Irma, they know all about it. I don't know what I was going to say. Mitchy Two Spoons is a great heel name. I got a dark side. No one knows about. No.

What does that even mean? Now it just sounds pervy. I can. I can turn on you a second wager. I'd fucking you do it all the time. You do it on the podcast. You idiot. There it is again.

What is what the fuck man? God, we would have a good. We would have a good feud and then we'd reunite maybe at some point. Right. It would be great. Yeah. I'd be a lesson. People like whoa.

Hold on. In New Japan pro wrestling, there is an angle going on where Kenny Omega, who is like one of the biggest up and coming stars in wrestling, he had this tag team with this guy, Kota Bushi, and it was always implied that they were an item, but because of homophobia and all these things in the world, it had to be implied and they broke up as a tag team and now they had this big reunion this last weekend and so now there's this these rumblings that they're going to do this really progressive angle with these guys and make it a big thing and try to change the attitudes of the historically very homophobic wrestling community.

Yeah. That's hard. It feels specifically like you were saying that's hard to pull off with that fan base, but it is also I feel like there is a second a segment of the wrestling fan base that is a little bit more progressive. I mean, that's certainly the vibe I got of this PWG event. Well, we're we're also spoiled being in Los Angeles. That makes sense.

I went to an indie wrestling show in Kansas. Yeah, I would for one not be involved or allowed inside the building so that's a that's the first thing. Sure. Christ. Yeah, I don't want to stereotype wrestling fans, but they're I mean the evidence is there. Watch any wrestling show from 1999 and there are signs accusing people of all manner of

things and just people being very, very homophobic towards characters like Old Dust or Shawn Michaels. I Goldus who was in the he is he just always in the rumble every single year. He still works for WWE. He still wrestles a full time schedule. He does house shows. He does he really? Yeah.

Damn. He's up. He's in his is he's in the fifties or something or probably because he was wrestling in the early nineties with Dusty with his dad. Yeah, that's easy been around for a long time and speaking of progressive the the winner of the Royal Rumble and I I'm not of I don't follow wrestling as much. Can you help me with his name? Shinsuke Nakamura?

Yes. Yeah, which it was the first year that any actual Japanese person won the Royal Rumble because in nineteen ninety three, the winner of the Royal Rumble was Yoko Zuna, who actually is Samoan. Oh, and he's passed out that that that was my that was my one question if if Yoko Zuna had ever had ever had ever won the rumble. Yeah, he won the rumble in ninety three went on to wrestle Bret Hart for the title at WrestleMania nine, not Japanese.

So that doesn't count. Oh, cool. All right. Interesting. And then the winner of the women's Royal Rumble was was Oscar. So two Japanese wrestlers. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah, people. She's a huge fan favorite. She's great. She's very charismatic without having to say a whole lot, which is very rare in wrestling where it's not so much about the pantomime and the the things that you do in the ring. Your body language is more about what you say because of the Stone Cold Steve Austin's and the rocks and the triple H's who are so hyper verbal and very funny and very quick. And, you know, Mick Foley also is on that list of people who just had a lot to say.

They were they were they they they were genuinely funny. I like I think stone. I've said it on the podcast before that Stone Cold I think is one of like the greatest characters ever created. You're a hundred percent right. He's my favorite despite, you know, there are things he's done in his life that are not great. Yeah, but as a character, amazingly realized, amazingly, perfectly realized the right guy

to do it, the right foiled and Vince McMahon and also now I mean there is some bad stuff about Stone Cold and you can look it up if you want to. But the the he is a he has a podcast and he's a pretty progressive guy now, which is a plus. But I don't know forgives everything that yeah, I don't think it forgives everything. I'm sure there were chemical reasons for him to behave that way to yes. Yeah, I think I have to go into a lot of wrestlers have issues like that too, which is sad. And is that is that kind of gone from wrestling now? Do you know? Or is it still a thing?

Well, I mean, there are a lot of rumors that certain people are on certain things and do certain things that are not weak, excuse me, that are not legal or appropriate or whatever that are the WWE says you can't do. But no, we would ever admit to it. Yeah, but there's always the rumblings. There's always people saying this guy is doing this, this woman is doing that. I don't know. I can't speak to intelligently on that because all I know are rumors. The amount of punishment, though, that your body takes, even just doing like a house show.

I mean, I feel like there it's probably like anything like because I know just like in pro sports in general, but in particular in contact sports, there's just like a lot of pain medication being consumed and that can create its own problem just just that in and of itself. And then you factor in other things like, you know, HGH or you know, even anabolic steroids that any sort of performance enhancing drugs. I mean, that can be a thing, but also just like the relentless pounding that your body and your brain are taking. I mean, that's the that's the issue with the NFL, right?

Yeah, they've tried to cut down on head injuries by not having people get hit in the head with chairs or any sort of objects. It's a lot of chairs on the back or the chairs in the stomach, not taking certain bumps and not doing certain moves. But the schedule is so unrelenting. You do Thursday show, Friday show, Saturday show, Sunday show. Right Monday. Some people are working Monday and Tuesday and then you go home for Wednesday, Thursday,

a couple days, whatever it is, then you're back on the road again. That's crazy. We record two podcasts a week and I'm exhausted. Yes, I want to kill my are you on three hours and I need to why are you sweating? We're indoors. You wouldn't understand it's you've done the same amount. I've done so far. Why?

Weigur, do you take any performance enhancing drugs for this podcast? Hey, you know, just a little caffeine, you said, hey, and you pointed to sparkling water. I was trying to like I was like, oh, sparkling. Wait, this doesn't have anything in it. So I had nothing. I was trying. I was flailing.

I remember to add some coffee early. I did see the coffee. I saw the cup. He's not lying. Yeah, you do get more giggly when you drink sparkling water. Do the bubbles like mess up your system or something? Yeah, it's like it's like when they isn't that a isn't that a thing in the Willy Wonka they drink the bubbles, the fizzy lifting drink.

Yeah, it's my fizzy lift and drink lifts my spirits how we get lifted right up to space you bitch. God, what are you doing it again? What a heel man. It's fun being a heel. Heels are fun. That's what everybody says they all want to be the bad guys is more fun. I do.

I do miss like some high flying stuff in W W like like I watched the rumble just by myself this weekend. It was a very sad. I got alone. I'm sorry. No, you're you're right. I came home tired from this wedding. I just turned it on and ordered it and it was like falling asleep as I went,

but it was very, very entertaining, but I missed some of the high flying stuff. The Hardy boys type of craziness that it doesn't. I know it still does happen, but I just can't do it in a royal rumble because the whole point is to throw people over the top rope outside. I want to silly to go up there. You got to tell me next time. It's kind of a fun high flying one. I got, I want to watch it.

I'll we got to watch it. You got to watch some new Japan. That's where a lot of this crazy stuff happens where they don't. One, they don't test for drugs in Japan and two, they don't really, they're not as concerned about head injuries. Yeah, I sense that W W is why you can bring your, your sparkling water in there and get away with it. You're all set.

Hey, you know, you mentioned high flying. This was a match I remember from the last PWG, the mystery vortex show, and they had a Sammy Guavara and Ray Phoenix. I just looked it up on the car, did a man. They had a high flying act. It was crazy. They were flying off of the top turnbuckle. They were flipping into the audience.

One very normal. The first one that you said when you said flying off the top, top turnbuckle. Wow. Is that a thing to say when you said high flying act, I thought you meant like they got on the ladders or there were their trapeze. No, they were doing lots of flips, lots of cool flips. That's a thing that happens in wrestling. Okay, that's what Mitch was referencing.

I said I'm a lapsed fan. I don't know. I want some crazy McFauley Hardy boys. Oh, you're talking about that sort of thing. There's also the TLC paper review. Yes. Tables, letters, and money in the bank. That's the ladder match where they climb up and then get the briefcase.

That's title shot. That's what you need to watch. That's what I want to watch. Okay. I'll remind you. All right, cool. So are you, you're an NFL fan or yes? Yeah.

And you're, are you rooting for the Eagles? I'm going to be in New York City. Uh-huh. At first I was, I was going to be on a plane the day of the Super Bowl and then my flight got moved, so I'm going to be going earlier. So I'll be in New York alone for the Super Bowl. I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm going to be in New York.

So they're just going to hope that the game gets canceled. I think like someone's trying to call in a bomb threat from a bar. I don't hate the Patriots as much as a lot of people do. I'm a Rams fan. I'm a California guy. Oh, wow. All right. I like it.

My dad's family is from Southern California. I'm from Central California. So there's, you know, I have no, no dog in this hunt, man. Were you a Rams fan before the move to California? Was it like, like residual calif, like when they were out here before to? They were here before and then they left and then I kind of gave up after the Super Bowl and, you know, when they won and all that stuff. Right.

And then in St. Louis. Yeah. And then I found out through just being in sports, media and whatnot. That it was in the offering that they were going to come back. And then then I, like the year two before I was like, all right, I'm getting back in to be prepared. I'm going to know this team backwards and forwards. And when they was at the same Bradford years, is that who Bradford and fulls?

Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Fulls was there. Case Keenum comes later and replaces fulls. And yeah, I was, I was, I was already in when they got here. Right.

Cause I like that. That's cool. As me as someone also from, from Southern California, I was a Rams fan growing up. The NFL was my, I'd say probably, you know, that and the NBA was a Rams fan, the Lakers fan. I was following them kind of equally for a while. And then when they moved, I kind of got done with the NFL for a bit, but Flipper Anderson, Henry Ellard, that's the, that's the wide receiver duo.

I remember and remember my, the first time I kind of felt like, like punched in the gut from a sports loss was the NFC championship game. It was the Rams and the 49ers. And I was so excited the Rams might go to the Super Bowl and then they lost like 30 to three years. And they just got completely blown out. Is that 91? Yeah.

It was something like that. It was, it was in that run of Joe Montana's Super Bowl wins. And it was just, yeah, that was, that was just like such a, the first time I really had that, that miserable feeling of, of a loss that kind of like, you know, it's just a thing that, that, that sticks with you if you're a sports fan. Yeah. That, that's how I felt after game seven of the world series, guys. Oh man.

That was the day my son was born. Oh my God. Yeah, that's right. Yes. That's crazy. My wife was in labor during the third inning of the game. Oh my God, a lot of confluence of events. Yeah, we almost named him Scully because if they won the game seven and won the

world series, that was what we're going to name him. That's, oh man, did you, did you and said name him after a Houston Astros player? Yeah, we named him Jose L2. Because I want to, I want him to remind me of my greatest failure. No, he's his name is Aussie. All right, Aussie Smith, the baseball players, we like the name. That's a great name. I love that name.

You guys like Black Sabbath. Yes, I'm a big Black Sabbath guy. That was what it was. I also love the Osborn's right show. The original, the original, like a reality reality show. They really kicked it off in a lot of ways. I used to, when people came out to LA to visit, I would like, you know, like give them a tour of LA and I'd always, I drive by the Osborn's because I like worked

right by there and I was like, it's the Osborn's house and people would, they would love it. They go nuts to see the Osborn's house. Imagine if you did that now, what a dumb time. I know it's off the tour now. The tour doesn't exist anymore. If you come out here, I've already showed you that dumb shit a decade ago and I didn't care then.

You should really sell that TMZ style van you bought. It still says TMZ2, which is strange. Yeah, I might go to the Super Bowl really. I might you're running out of time. I might go with with Wu Tang. We might just go last. We're just we were waiting for the prices to really drop. Yeah, you use the Doughboys shared Twitter account to drunkenly post the day

the first of all, what do you mean drunkenly post? I had like in with typos. There was one typo and a few typos. There was one type. But you posted you posted a Twitter poll. Should the Doughboys go to the AFC or you go to the Super Bowl? Yes, with that, like without checking with me, really, you just did it. So the yeah, and the answer should have been yes.

I just wanted to use our corporate card to finance your Super Bowl vacation. Yes, and the answer and the answer should have been yes. Well, how many typos do you need to see in a tweet to know that someone's drunk? Yeah, well, what's your threshold? I mean, people there's people who are way more who do make way more typos than me and you don't assume that they're drunk all the time. Yeah, Donald Trump is constantly putting typos in. He's never had a drink in his life.

He may start on the orange buffoon. I didn't know this was a satirical podcast. You also can't just say the orange buffoon over. Actually, I repeat myself constantly do whatever the hell you want to do, but I should have gone to the fucking Super Bowl. Well, you still can I might I still might I might still go. I went once when I was much younger to the Atlanta Falcons and the Broncos game. I was rooting for the Falcons.

The Broncos won, unfortunately, and it was fun. It was like nineteen ninety seven or ninety nine. Maybe nineteen ninety eight. I think it was ninety seven or ninety eight. Yeah, that sounds right. That was the the L. Way later career resurgence. Yes, was that his second win? Maybe it was because he won two in a row, I believe, and I'm trying to remember

who they beat the. It was the Packers the first time, wasn't it? I think so. Yeah, the far of Packers. Yeah, and then so I went to the Super Bowl and I was just too young and didn't didn't appreciate it. I didn't appreciate it. I was I was I think my dad wanted to go with me, you know, like have a moment where we went together and it was it was nice, but I want I want to go. I want to go again.

I want it. This could be the last shot to do it. So yeah, don't you want to see Bill Belichick's last game as a Patriots coach? Oh my God, it's not going to happen. You and I you and I would get along really well, except there's just the small thing, the Patriots thing, and then some of my opinions you I think you paint. I am a big Lakers fan. I love I love the Star Wars movies. I love the new Star Wars movies, and I don't love them as much.

I'm not racist like. Look what this podcast has done. I'm just glad people know the truth now. That's what we're about. Hey, you know, I think all this sport stock is going to turn off some of our listeners, but but you know, too bad. We just gave him an hour of it while we're in this world Super Bowl, a big dining day, Dave, any Super Bowl snacks that you prefer or or just

general a sports watch and snacks? Well, I mean, I am a big Wings guy. Oh, hell yeah. If you if you don't like Buffalo Wings when watching sports or watching anything, I don't trust you. Do you mean specifically Buffalo Wings or just any Wings with your sauce of choice? I'm going to allow people to have some variations on their.

Sure, that said, the Buffalo sauce is the superior sauce for a wing. Yeah, my favorite, my favorite wing. See where we're connecting right now again. I'm feeling it, man. My favorite wing in Los Angeles is you rustic in great. Hey, we're connecting right now. Again, there's so it is. It's the best, especially if you get it.

If you get them extra, if you get them crispy, get them order them, Chris, you gotta order them crispy. They're great. That's a great, great wing for a place that looks like it's overrun by rats. It looks it looks disgusting. It's a little shithole, but it's the Wings are amazing. Hey, you know, if we've learned anything for the movie, we've learned a Tui being overrun for by rats isn't so bad sometimes.

Yeah, you know what needs the right rat fucking God, they don't make the wings at the at the rest again. They're just observers, right? They're learning still their apprentice chefs. This might sound fucked up, but sometimes I wish I could send you straight to hell to something you said. Just have a button on the table. You got to go like her just for just for a few moments.

I could just sort of I just experience that for what feels like an eternity, but it's in fact just five minutes of my life. Yeah, just a couple seconds. I come back in here just with tortured psychologically and just basically how you look at when we took that picture will be the same thing. We'll get it. We'll get it. We'll get it.

We'll get a screen grab of the view with that picture. We didn't even get into the fact that I was I wasn't there stag. My lovely wife was at this hotel room. She was startled. There's people at our door yelled at me. There's people knocking at our door. Nick, can you come out of the bathroom? Stop sucking your dick for a minute.

Hold on. Wait a minute. You're sucking your own dick. What do you think I'm up to on this vacation? Your wife should know that when the boys come and knock in, you have to open the door and let them take the picture. That's a rule. When the boys come and knock and you must stop the self cocking.

God, I was trying to say sucking. It didn't work. It was a better rhyme though. Cocking and knocking. So you're on the right track. I also. Hey, by the way, I want to say this is just a quick aside. People give me a hard time of day because I say I don't like stuff.

I watched a movie Blue Ruin and that's a couple of years old and I very much liked it. So I want to say I want to occasionally say some stuff that I like on the podcast buzz from Home Alone is in it. Oh, there's that very vocal Blue Ruin community online. Yeah, I'll be very happy to hear that. People are always talking about that franchise. I say some stuff that I see that I like.

Of course you want to make it about positivity. Sure. I can't wait for you to see Black Panther. I am excited to see. I don't hate every Marvel movie. I really don't. I liked Thor Ragnarok a lot. All right, I did too.

I love it. I thought it was good. Yeah, I thought it was good. Well, those movies seem to share like a very visually striking aesthetic, which I'm on board with. That's like I'm kind of like, oh, if you're going to make, if you're going to let someone make one of these movies, I mean, I don't like Marvel movies. And I like, I do like DC movies more.

We were talking about this before the podcast started, but I'm I almost threw the food at you when you were talking about how much you love Batman versus Superman. I do love and Viagra. We got a little bit of you on Batman versus Superman. Oh, I like Batman versus Superman. I think it's, I mean, it's not a perfect. It's not even close to a perfect film.

It's a deeply flawed film, but it's very, it's like interesting and engaging. I've said this on the podcast before, but that scene where he goes into that warehouse to like to where Batman goes to the warehouse to get Superman's save Superman's mom. He breaks a breaks a bunch of guys' legs and stuff. It's real brutal. That scene is great. That's a good scene.

That's a great, great. One of the best Batman fight scenes I've ever seen. Zack Snyder can direct action. I like the scene where Lex Luthor makes a Holly Hunter drink pee pee. Oh, that's that is that's it. That's it. That's different. And then a wheelchair guy blows up Congress, but he didn't do that.

Lex Luthor tricked him. He wasn't actually in on a wheelchair guy, a wheelchair guy. Okay, first of all, we've got a racist on my left and an ableist on my right. I'm problematic in my own way. Why am I racist? Because I brought up that because I said I really love chief one. No, I don't love them. I said it in a way.

I would it would be sad to see him go, but if he's offensive to people, they get him out of there. You can you can you know what I'm saying with that, right? Am I saying this the wrong way that it would sound better if you weren't wearing a full loincloth. Motherfucker, but you know what this is going to sound. I think it should go if it offends people. It's got it's got it's got to go.

I'm just saying that to help. Yeah, press the buttons. No, but we're going to send chief Wahoo to hell. That's even more racist. That's fucked up for a guy. Yeah, so Weigar's race is now too. Well, I'm glad I came into this show guys. It's a cartoon.

If I'm not going to clear my name, I'm going to bring you down with me. Sorry, Weigar, big baby phase turn. Mitch, do you have any Super Bowl snacks or any football snacks of? I mean, I think wings just knock out of the park. I always I always think that I'm such a pizza guy that I feel like pizza. You just got to have them. You have some pizza. You got to have some pizza for God's sakes.

Just have some and these days pizza and wings is like burger and fries and natural combo. It really is. And besides that, I would say I would go for for the Super Bowl. You get it. You get a you had a few dips in there. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, you have dips because you if you've got wings and you've got pizza, you've got pizza crust, which means you need dip.

I'm from California. We dip our crust and stuff. I'll put my hands up on some chips when I dip you dip we dip. Oh boy, what the fuck you get so mad. You didn't like that referencing freak nasties hit single. Yeah, I was disappointed in you. I got to say no one likes that song. I liked it.

It's fine before I knew what, you know, dipping and stuff meant I thought they're talking about Chaw. What a way. What what what is a dance? The dip was a dip. Okay, that's what I thought it was grinding on each. Yeah, I wasn't grinding when I was thirteen. Oh, me neither.

I think I barely ever grounded before my life. I'm thirty three now. I haven't ground in years. I haven't ground. I haven't. I mean, when I was grind, it was not. It was not a good grind when I was grinding. You know, the last time I grinded was nine months ago before my son was born.

That was my last grind. Sorry to my wife. He's listening to show right now. She's upset. Anyway, on the sports, the sports dining tip, I know you're going to you're on your way to cover something over at the Staples Center here in Los Angeles. When you're at the Staples Center arena, known for pretty good in terms of a ballpark in terms of food selections.

Do you have any dining favorites there? Oh man, yes, I do. There's the Ludo bites thing. Oh, yeah, chicken. That's good. I'm I'm partial to a Wetzel pretzel. Yeah, I love a Wetzel pretzel, especially with some cheese. Are you are you cinnamon sugar?

Are you? I usually go savory with a cheese dip in sauce. I like the pepperoni pizza pretzel with the marinara. Oh, I'm a savory boy all the way right. Me too. I'll also do a Wetzel dog. I won't pass away. If I need something more substantial, I'll get the Wetzel dog, a little bit of protein. I have a diarrhea fear for that. It's probably a real fear, which is why I'm glad we got haul all guys today. There's also if you're in the the rarefied air of the luxury boxes at Staple Center, which I am lucky enough to sometimes get to take part in.

They bring a dessert cart around all of the luxury boxes and they have brownies and giant cookies and pieces of cake and it's it's significantly better dessert than you would get from the regular concession right. Oh man, the one problem is they come by. They're like, what do you want? They're really rude. Tell me what you want and then you give them their your credit card. They're like, all right, we'll be back in like four hours with your credit card. Don't worry. You'll get it back. I don't want to part with my credit card for five seconds. Yeah, that's it. You know that long. It's like, oh, we'll come back in the third

period of the hockey game or we'll come back before the main event of the wrestling match. I was pitching this to Nick that they should put a sugar fish in there in the Staple Center and then they and then they could do it by the like they have a certain number of orders by quarter or something like that. So it's like we have like 70 ready and then you got you know, something like along those lines, but I think it would be great. I think people would love it, especially at the Staple Center. If they could pull it off. I mean, it's a sugar fish, a local sushi chain that that does a good job. But the thing

is, I think like because they have some sushi options in the Staple Center, but it's stuff that just kind of it's like grocery store sushi. It's just kind of sitting there. And I feel like the, the, the, it feels like everything that they have there, cause like even they have a version of BS, Takari, which is a very good restaurant, a Mexican restaurant here in LA and they have a version. That's one of my favorite restaurants. Yeah. But the, you know, the Staple Center version is like a, it's like the airport version. Like they kind of, it's kind of scaled down. And I don't know if they could quite scale it

in the same sort of way, like a sushi concept. It feels like it'd be hard for them to get that fresh fish in there. That's why I saying that they do the orders by the quarter. That's what I'm saying. Orders by the quarter. I think that solves the problem though, because isn't the issue like getting the the fresh fish in there each day. It's about sourcing the fish, but then they could be making it before the get. You know what I mean? Like it's out. Just let it sit for a while. The grocery store's a problem again. I think they should have a Kogi. I'll do a fine same diarrhea issue. Is that play or maybe I

just have a sensitive tum tum? I don't know, but I love a case of the rumbly in a sensitive tum tum or on the same level now as two horrible things that adults have said on the show. Sorry, you know what? That's just how I talk. I have a sensitive tum tum to. I'm right. I'm right there with you. Yeah. There are other things that I like. There's a blaze pizza. That's good. I think of all of the sports venues in Los Angeles, though Dodger Stadium has the best food. Wow. What do you? What do you like? That is? That's interesting to me. They have the weird Kings Hawaiian little shack there. That's true, which is fantastic.

They get the little sliders and also they have garlic. The the garlic fries are very garlic fries are famous. They're not as good as the ones at AT&T Park, but I mean San Francisco is known for their garlic fries or the Tommy, La Sorda Trittoria. You get the pizza. You get the meatball sub. All that's great and Tommy is in the kitchen working. Yeah. Have you seen Tommy lately? There are pieces of Tommy falling off into the food in the case. Oh my God, terrible for Tommy. They've got like sometimes they just got the weird hot dogs like the Korean Dodger dog. Yeah, I've got the Brooklyn Dodger. There's all kinds of

weird Dodger dogs. I just love a dog. I like a straight up Dodger dog. It's great. It's a great dog. Nothing beats it. Yeah, except for Fenway Frank. Anyway, okay, that's not true. Anyway, moving on Fenway Frank wins. What? That's wrong. God damn it. I'm not gonna. Have you had a Fenway Frank? I've never been to Boston. I would never touch that one. What the hell? I like it. I'm trying to get under Mitch's skin. I mean, I will say this. I mean, it's not hard. I know you get boss in a hard time. You know, all the franchises Red Sox are the bad one. They're the bad

franchise. They are. They are bad decades of races. They have their decades of racism. There was an owner who one of the owners was bad was bad. Yawkey. Yeah, Yawkey was bad. Have they changed the name of that street? No, they should though than that. I would be and I would be fine with that because I don't care about Yawkeyway. Spoon Manway. I would love Spoon Manway. Hell yeah. Fuck Yawkeyway. Who gives a shit about Yawkeyway? Very abandoned your gimmick. It's Mitchy Two Spoons now. Oh shit. Mitchy Two Spoons. That was my fault. I didn't get them in before the show started. We'll take a break. We'll be back

with more Doe Boys. Mitch, this episode is releasing just a few short days before the big game. The big game between your preferred team and a team from Philadelphia. But you know what? We're not here to talk about sports. We're here to talk about snacks. And hey, if you're looking for a snack to stuff your face with while you're watching the pigskin being thrown around, Lantana Hummus. That's right. A great choice. This is a hummus company based in Austin. Mitch, we actually met them in Austin. They met him in Austin. They gave us some hummus. They gave us three different hummuses. Three different kinds of hummuses. And

we're basically like, hey, if you like this, we'll advertise in the show. We loved it. We loved it. We took it across Texas with us just to try it. Yeah, we kept having, we kept nibbling on it in three different cities on our Interstate tour. Nick, when it comes to the big game, look, I love pizza. I love wings, but it's all about the dips, baby. You've got to have some dips there to balance things out. Dips. The dips are what it's all about. Who is the king of the dips? King or queen of the dips? I mean, hummus. Oh, there you go. I wasn't sure where you were going with that. I was like, what could he possibly mean?

You mean hummus? Carrots goes in there. Tortilla chips. They go in there. Right. Anything you want. You can throw in that. Peanut bread. Get in it in there. It doesn't matter. And you know what? Lenten is available at most major grocery retailers and target across the country. And hey, it's a little different from other hummus because they don't use chickpeas. Use a lot of different beans and legumes to create their products. Black beans, lentils, edamame, et cetera. And guess what? Already snack, pop off the lid, put it out, and it'll disappear. And guess what, Nick? We genuinely love this hummus. We like this hummus. They've got

10 great flavors in total. We sampled three of them. We had the hatch chili, which was, it was spicy, but not too spicy. It was one of my favorite hummuses that I've ever had in my life. Yeah. If you like that heat, you can get some sriracha carrot hummus. You want some a little spicier black bean hummus and spicy yellow lentil hummus. And if you want a lot of heat, if you're a heat seeker, extra spicy three pepper hummus. And hey, they've got some other flavors for you out there. If you like it mild, edamame, white bean. So yeah, all the different types are satisfied. If it's right around the fall season, you know,

the, the spookiest month is October. You could get yourself a little pumpkin spice hummus, which we tried, which was great. I didn't think I would like it. And I loved it. Surprisingly, surprisingly good. Hey, so look for the hummus with the striped lids in the deli. Their products are non GMO vegan kosher and gluten free. So whoever's at your big game gathering, they're going to have something they can eat. And that's really lower in fat and calories than traditional hummus without sacrificing taste and flavor. So go to LantanaFoods.com to find Lantana at the stores near you. And hey, when you're

there, there are coupons you can download if you want to get a little bit of a discount on whatever you're going to eat. So LantanaFoods.com, the hummus with the striped lids in the deli. Check it out. Check them out for real. Welcome back to Dough Boys. We're here with Dave Schilling talking about our chain this week, the halal guys. I don't, I don't know, actually know the emphasis halal or halal. I've heard it both ways. I think halal is how I've known it. But, um, but I'm not going to correct that. Me neither. You call whatever you want. I'm just going to pretend like that's right. Yeah, I'll

look it up as we're talking. But Dave, what is your connection to, uh, to this chain? I mean, the weird thing about this is I, like I have said already on this show, a California person, I, I, we moved here when I was two to central California. My father is from Southern California. So I got roots here. My wife is from here. She was born and raised in Los Angeles. So typically I like the LA version of whatever it is, right? Or the California version of whatever. So I'm an in and out guy over a shake shack. Hell yeah. I think we've got, you know, better hot dogs in the New York and and Fenway. Well, I've never,

I again, never had a Fenway Frank before, but I'm sure it's dog shit. If you are, if you are ever, have you been to Fenway Park ever? I've driven by it. That's this. Oh, you went to go interview Gordon Hayward. And I was like, can we go buy Fenway Park for a second? And then that was it. Well, Gordon Hayward. Very cool. Yeah. This is how is he? Nice guy. Super nice guy. Did you talk eSports? We didn't talk a lot about video games. We talked about God. This is nothing but sports. Sorry. Sorry. We'll get off. But it's cool. This is cool. Yeah. No, he's a really sweet dude. We talked about his haircut a lot. Oh, he used to get his

haircut at great clips and then his wife was like, you're a professional athlete. Right. You can afford better than this. Oh, wives ruin everything. It was, was this pre or post injury? This was pre injury. So my, my, my profile of him came out the week before his gruesome injury. Oh my God. I think he might play this season, by the way. Everyone's saying no, but we, I've, he's taken jumpers. He's not wearing a boot or a brace of any kind. Do you want to? Do I want to risk it? No. I mean, I don't ever want to risk. You can beat the Cavaliers without him. Yes. Yeah, that's true. They almost beat the Warriors. I was at that game, but

could we maybe beat Golden State with him? That's a possibility. Maybe because you need that wing defense. Yeah, but let's talk about hollow guy. Wait, one last thing about the sport Jesus Christ. I just don't want to get in trouble for because people online are going to be like Mitch, Mrs. Chief Wahoo. I don't care. I was just trying to open up a discussion. I want people to know that I thought this was over after the break. Yeah, we all right. It's over now, but you would just be nice to me. Everyone trying to be a good man. Dave, I'm going to tell him I'm a good man. Dave and Weigar, please.

He's never said a mean thing to me. I don't know. Oh, fuck you. Weigar. You don't have to say anything. Mitch, you're lovable. You're definitely lovable. Okay. I looked at the pronunciation of Halal. Wait, hold on. Here we go. This video is going to play in one second. All right, so played. That wasn't very helpful. What was that? Why? Halal. It also didn't help that you said that and didn't play the video. This is also a robot. Do you say? Halal. Hold on.

Halal. People. I think this one is wrong. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? There's a comment here that says this is wrong. There's a comment that says this is wrong. So, you know, I'm not going to take this. The, the, the, the one I looked up on paper did say that the emphasis is on the second syllable. So I think Halal is close to Halal. People are going to think that you're saying it still. I'm standing by that. Hey, Halal. Alexa, how do you say Halal? I pronounced that Halal, but text to speech is always improving and I might

not have it quite right. Halal? That's how she said it. Didn't she say hello? No, she didn't. Alexa, how do you say Halal? I pronounced that Halal, but text to speech is she said Halal. Okay. Right. Okay. All right. All right. Alexa, you dumb fuck. Sorry. Thanks for letting me know. Wow. What a cock. She's just going to take that. Jesus. I do like she should become the new co-host

over Weigher. She can take it. I think she can take over my job. So the this one, the whole all guys, what's your standard order when you go there, Dave? Okay, let me finish my story first. I'm sorry. I apologize. I apologize. We went on a tangent. Yeah, it's your fault. I got to make sure people don't think I'm a racist. No one thinks you're a racist. Sorry. Yes, you were talking about something California. I'm a California guy. Obviously, the Halal chain that is the beloved chain in Southern California is Zanku chicken. Yes. They've got the great sauce. Everybody raves about it. If you've

never been to Zanku, I don't know if you guys have done an episode about Zanku. We have not yet. We've never done a Zanku episode. You got to do a Zanku episode. It's very, very good. And also like on curb your enthusiasm, there was like a fake Zanku. Like it's been referenced in a lot of different. It's a big, it's, it's huge. And there's a very dark story about the recipe for the sauce and like the owners and murder and whatnot. Yes, it's great. But Halal guys is a New York cart. Basically, it's just like a hot dog cart, but they sell Halal food and it's very popular with drunk people. And there's a lot of them in New York

because the bars don't close till four o'clock. Well, our mutual friend, Farley Elliot, who is the eater LA writer, was like, Oh, Halal guys, really good. You should try this. So in New York, I try it. I've been to some bars and whatnot. I'm like, I'm really hungry. There's a cart right by my hotel. I try it. I'm in love with it. I come back with this obsession with this food in this disgusting white sauce, which by the way, let me just say we looked at the nutrition facts. Fifty five percent of your total value of fat is in one package of the white sauce for the sauce alone. Just the sauce people. That's

insane. It's insane. I might just eat just a package before I leave just for dessert. So then they start opening. Halal guys on every block in Los Angeles. There's one in Glendalers, one in downtown. They're opening ones in the Inland Empire in Orange County. So they're trying to take over this market that quite frankly is owned by Zanku. Right. It is. Really? And I think that's also kind of tied into, I think they have, they kind of a nationwide expansion plan that they're doing right now. They're opening a ton of locations like very, very rapidly. I want to say this though. I just want to say this quickly.

Different enough from Zanku for me. Sure. Yeah. It's all, it's, we've said this before, but it's like when you are like craving, sometimes you crave Taco Bell and sometimes you crave the like a street, like a street taco or whatever. Sure. Are you going to say green burrito? I was like, yes, sometimes I want that too. I've never. I don't know if I've ever actually like have wanted a green burrito ever. Like I've ever been like I need. I'm craving green burrito right now. Well, the problem is you pull into the drive through and it's like, well, there's a Carl's Jr. right there. Yeah. So Carl's Jr. is going to win out. Yeah. Yeah. I do

remember when there was a, there was a brief period when green burrito was a standalone chain before it merged with Carl's Jr. I did get it a few times then as a kid. I do, I do like they're being in cheese burrito and they got some decent taquitos, but yeah, it's, it's, there's no real reason to go to green burrito. But this, this is the sort of thing like, like the difference between Taco Bell, Taco Bell is a completely different food than like a burrito in Los Angeles. It's just, it's completely different. And I think that these like Zanku and this is different enough for me. I know it's similar stuff, but it is.

It's very, it's, it's different in a lot of ways. Yeah. It's not as, as close to a one to one correlation as Shake Shack and In-N-Out, even though it's the similar sort of East Coast, West Coast thing. This is rice and meat and hypothetically speaking, tomatoes and lettuce. If you're lucky, you don't go to a certain delivery service. We use Postmates today. I don't like Postmates. Nick, you don't use Postmates. You're against Postmates. Yeah. I have a little bit of a, I mean, I just don't get food delivered really. Like if I'm going to eat an outside of, if we're going to eat outside of our home, we just go to where if we're going to

eat or we pick it up. We just don't, you don't really make use of it. But yeah, also I've heard, you know, I've heard Postmates is kind of particularly shady in terms of its labor issues. Well, I try to add fries to your, we couldn't do it within, like within whatever before they even got to the restaurant. It was long before that. This is an app deficiency. An app deficiency. They forgot two things. They forgot your, what did you have the baklava? Yeah, I didn't get my dessert and they also forgot. They forgot the onions on one of the chicken and they forgot a drink. We got, we got a cool sounding drink from there that we didn't

get and then like a like a Greek Greek drink or something. I don't know what it was and then also that with the combos, they asked us what we wanted with the combo and it was like rice, lettuce, tomato or pita. It had you click one of the best choices presented as an either or an either or you're supposed fallacy. You can have all of that if you just go into the store. Yeah, you're supposed to get all of it. Yeah, that comes standard. Yes. And so we got fucked over by Postmates sucks. We like, it's like buying a car and they're like, do you want an air conditioner or do you want seats? Yes, I know how about both?

It seems like I need both to have a car. The two things that you need in a car most in my eyes. Yeah, the seat and the air conditioning. Yeah, care about the wind. Get that windshield out of here. I didn't need a place to sleep tonight, but but but they fucked things up. Yeah, but we were still able to get and also we ordered with Uber eats. We got some fries from from Halal guys. I say use two different services. Use two different services. The fries were here just about the same time. So it was perfect and a perfect to. Hey, Dave showed up. The food show. It was all like all came together at the right time. You said

before we started recording, you said, why do you better praise me on the show for making sure the food got here in time. So yes, bitch, well done. It was well. That's tricky. You never know when it's gonna arrive. It actually was per you like Dave walked in and then you walked in at the same time, holding the food. That's right. I was told to be here a certain time and I was that's usually how it works. God damn it. You know too much about me. I'm sorry. But we're not reviewing postmates. Postmates. I've the only my only interaction with Halal guys though has been through Postmates. I only ever have ordered it

through Postmates. There's one in Koreatown down here, a little bit south of where I live. I have always enjoyed it every time I've had it. I do think it's very different from from Zanko and I do think it is the white sauce that is really kind of the game changer. It's how do you describe it? It's almost it's kind of ranch like it's ranch and mayonnaise. Yeah, it's like a thicker. It's like a yeah, like a much thicker, unhealthier ranch. It really is. Somehow they've really perfected ranch. Yeah, worse for you and it is. It's unbelievably to lit. It is very, very, very good. It's super rich. It is very, very creamy. I

mean, I guess the kind of secret sauce is Zanko is their garlic sauce, which is a lot thicker and more paste like. This is a lot creamier. Yeah, it's it's delicious. It's very, very good and it goes on everything and honestly in the times that I've gotten this in the past today, I got the combo platter and the time of the past. I've usually just gotten the chicken Euro and and and I and I love it. It's it's got enough meat in there. It's it's packed full. It's kind of a sloppy sandwich and the fries and I'm happy. We got the fries with degrees because I think the fries are kind of stars of this place. They're

very, very good. The fries are good. They're great. Yeah, cut fries. They're very good. They're good. They they're always good when they you get them delivered. They're still good. Like and I think when you get fries delivered for the most part, they end up sucking their soggy or whatever. There was a little travel, a little bit of so with these, but not they. They kind of travel really well for fries. These are perfect fries for what they've started to do as an off menu choice is you put the fries in the platter or you can put it in the sandwich. Yeah, which reminds me of like a San Diego burrito thing. What hell

and those are similarly often crinkle cut fries in a San Diego burrito. The California burrito is one of is like one of my favorite foods. I love it. It's it's amazing and you're right. It works. It works exactly like that. You got the fries, a little meat, some of the white sauce, and it's you're getting some good bites as we grow would say some real tasty bites here. Here's something to know about the difference between the California sit down locations and the New York carts. No fries. Wow. No side of hummus, no baklava. You go, you get the platter or the sandwich right it. Wow. It's cash only. It's a it's a far more

authentic and the white. The white sauce is still there. Of course. Oh yeah, they get they just throw packets at you. Like how many packets you want to eat? Sure. Good luck. I paid for more packets just because I want us all to have at least two white sauce packets, which right gets a hundred percent, 110 percent of fat for the day. I'm always trying to hit that 100 percent threshold. I don't want to miss any fat, you know, but they get they we have a bag over you. Just by us missing some stuff from the order. There is probably like 18 white sauce packets and that other bag over there. You can. Hey, they can be your your gift

for being on the show. You can thank you. I'm just going to have one of those a day. It's like Soylent one and then you're finished for the day. Move on. You'll be way more productive. Nick is someone who has never tried it very. I mean, definitely I like this kind of food. It's definitely different than Zanku chicken. As we've already mentioned, Zanku, I think they're they're the thing they do well. There is just like the whole bird and they don't really have that here. It's it's you know, it's the the the meat that's been. I don't know if it's been on the spit or if it's been on the grill. I think it's been on the

spit, right? That's that's what we're getting here. This sort of spit roasted chicken and it's very it was very good. I think it all had like a like just very very heavily seasoned, which I really like. I like the beef yearls a lot. I like the rice a lot. I would have liked to have the lettuce and tomatoes. It's a shame that wasn't included. Yeah, I got some Baba Ghanoush in lieu of the hummus. Although I did taste some of your hummus, Mitch, and I thought that was good execution. Baba Ghanoush, one of my favorites by my wife, Daddily, is a big Baba Ghanoush fan and kind of got me into ordering it more. And I thought this

was I thought their sauces were all like or rather their accompaniments were all were all really well. And yeah, that white sauce is delectable. I mean, it is just so so insanely flavorful and so like, you know, clearly super unhealthy, but just so so good. Yeah, I really enjoyed all of it. I mean, I will say that like I ate about half of my platter and I got super full. And this is like my really my first full meal today. So like I was pretty hungry, but it's just it's a pretty gigantic portion you're getting here. Yeah. So it's a lot of food just even more. It's there should have been vegetables mixed in with I would have

liked. Yeah, I would like to get some veggies. We chose you. I asked you and you said rice. So I just put rice for all of us because I didn't want them to not include rice. That would have been ludicrous. Yeah. So rice is really important. Yeah, it's I don't even know what they do. Why is it yellow? It's like greasy, right? Not even right. It kind of looks like a Mexican style rice. Yeah, like same sort of coloration. A little cheese. It doesn't look like cheese. It truly looks like just like a cheddar cheese, like shredded cheddar cheese. Yeah. My platter didn't have a lot of meat on it. So I really might. I

had kind of like a light meat platter, which I was okay with. I ate more than enough. I think that I think the proportions were just off because you don't have the vegetable section. Sure. If you've never had it before, the platter is basically divided into sections. You've got your veggie section. You got your rice section. You got your meat section and then a little area for where they put the sliver is a pita. So everything is off. It's like too much rice compared to how much meat you're getting. Fucking postmates. Yeah. Fuck this up. I'm sorry that you went through this. I still, Nick, do you think you

can give or can you think you can give a fork rating? Yeah, I can give this. I can give this an assessment. I mean, I think it's going to be tempered a little bit because we didn't get an authentic. I feel like I need to go back and I need to just sit in the restaurant and I think I just need to order it there and eat it there and then just sort of see what a more authentic presentation is like on their terms and not just have this as a point, but I think I got enough of a sense of the food to give it some sort of rating. But Dave, what did you think of your execution or the execution you got today and what do you think of?

What are your thoughts on Halal guys in general in terms of what you normally get? Am I giving my fork rating now? No, no, we can just go to general. Okay. Okay. So in general, it's delicious. Yeah. It's a great meal. I feel sick after it's over. Yeah, which is always a sign that what I've had is very good. Yeah, and then I've got days and days of just bad battle movements after. But that's a price you pay for excellence. Right. It does seem like a good drunk food, but I funny funny enough. I don't think I've ever had this while drunk. I think I have just ordered the sandwich sober, the sandwich and fries. It's a

not a healthy meal at all. It's bad right. Yeah, I as much as I love it. I try to avoid it as much as possible. Sure. It's in the back of my mind all the time, but it's just so bad for you. It's very like the rice. You think it's cheese. How is that possible? The arguably the the healthiest thing of this entire platter that we had today is the rice. Yeah, and it's probably very, very bad for you. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think that the presentation in general is better than chicken. I think it's it's better than a lot of sort of bowl based meals. Right. You know, if you get the Chipotle bowl, it kind of looks like a hot mess. You get

bowls from whatever like other Mediterranean chains there are. There's this place called Spireworks near my house and Eagle Rock and that's bowls. And it looks like just someone dumped shit in a bowl. But this is organized and you can decide which ways to attack it and mix things and you've got your choice of sauces. I stayed away from the hot sauce today because the hot sauce really does kind of like affect my heartburn. Oh, yeah. Quite a bit. The hot sauce is kind of like a paste. I don't know if you try to wager. It's like very paced. I didn't even see any hot sauce. I threw some to you. This is okay. Dave's handing me a red

packet. All right. Well, now let's watch why I try some of the taste of this. It says, Oh, a lot of guys is very spicy. And then it also says underneath that we are different. Interesting message. Okay. I'll take a little taste of this. They are different. I think their message is spot on. Yeah. I wager is opening the packet. All right. Tears are coming out of his eyes. Don't go too far. Hey, while I'm doing this, any Super Bowl predictions from you guys? I'm gonna say the Patriots. I no question. I'm afraid to say the Patriots. I hope that they win. And I think that they might. Wow, wager. You just took it. You maybe took too

much of that. You definitely took too much. It's pretty spicy. That's what the white sauce is for. The white sauce is like a chada when you're at a Mexican restaurant. I might need to get some white sauce after this. My little white sauce. It's kind of got the consistency of tomato paste. There you go. Good luck. It's kind of got the consistency of tomato paste. I had a little bit of pita. It's got a good burn to it. I definitely, I definitely feel it. You definitely ate too much of it. There was there was a huge chunk of that on there. Well, you know what? If I eat a normal portion, Mitch, you're like, Oh, you took a pushy,

you took a pushy bite. You always like fucking roast me for not having enough. What the hell? You would have laid into me if I didn't take enough of this. I wasn't even watching you that much. I definitely saw how much you took. You saw how much and I just know from experience that it's very spicy. Yeah, it's got some real heat to it and I'm something of a heat seeker, but this is this is pretty spicy. I can have a whole packet of white sauce to yourself. What's what's your? What's the score prediction for the Super Bowl? 3517. All right. You think that they're going to really you think they're going to beat him pretty not

easily. We're talking about Nick fools in the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. That's the level of competition they're facing. I think it's going to be 34 to 27. That's pretty close. That's a that's a that's a touchdown. It's one touch one touchdown. Yeah, I think that might be what it is. So yeah, I this is I think one of the most exciting up and coming chains in America. It's very it's in. I have a question for you. One. Did you notice a difference from from eating it in New York to eating it here? Is there any taste difference differences? No, the me in the right. Everything is very similar. The

presentation, the organization of all of the elements of the plate. The only thing that's missing is I'd like to be able to get sides of hummus or fries or, you know, all the accoutrement that you get from a chain restaurant. Right. It's not feasible in a in a cart in New York. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then two, does this place have like it's big? Like are there going to be people who are angry at us mostly? There always is. But are there people who like love love their diehards of the Halal, Halal guys chain? I feel like it's going to be mostly East Coast people who are like, yeah, it's going to be New York. It's one of

those things that it reminds me of when pinkberry became popular. Oh, yeah. Where it's like you, you got to try this thing. It's not like fancy. Yeah. But it's really good and it's really unique and special and different and wait till you try it. And then it was a pinkberry in every fucking town in America. Yeah. I wonder if I hope it doesn't suffer the same fate where now pink berries are deserted and well, it's really three of them. I feel like left. It's more established in pinkberry because Halal guys actually traces back to the early nineties. It's been around for a while and it was like a New York

street food staple for a long time before it started expanding into its current form. So I think, I think it'll have some staying power. Even if it recedes a little bit, it'll still court it sort of be a New York institution at minimum. It also helps it's unhealthy. Yes. Right. Pinkberry's whole thing was, oh, you can have frozen yogurt. It's healthy for, it's good for you. Yeah. And people realize, okay, it's good for you, but I don't like it. I don't like right, but this is delicious and it's terrible for you. Also the the founder of pinkberry beat a homeless guy with a tire iron.

Oh, that's right. Awful. Yeah. Why did I laugh at that? You might ask yourself because it's absurd. It's it's so it's such it's a parody of of late capitalism that this fucking awful food in food. Food CEO would actually physically take his rage out on the poor directly instead of just be a commercial enterprise. I like this. Weger. All right. Well, let's get to our final thoughts on halal guys still get a lot of burn from that hot sauce. He doesn't go away for hours. It's got a little bit of I'm something of a heat seeker, but you took like a really pussy bite. I don't make me send you to hell. Hey,

you know, you know, that's my worst nightmare. I know you're terrified. You scared the devil down there with red horns and a pitch forks and poke in the butt. I'm afraid that you'll push the button and only only my butt will fall through the hole and it will get poked repeatedly. Resty, you'll be in purgatory. That's not bad. But in purgatory, you have a Nintendo, but it's a Nintendo 63. This seems like more hellish. Yeah. What does that mean? There's just one left there. It's it's instead of what is 64 64 pixel? What is it 64? Bits 64 bits. Thank you. So it's 63 bits. The graphics are slightly worse. They're

slightly worse. You know the details of Mario's face are kind of like blurry. Yeah, you can't really tell he's got two eyes or just like one eyebrow. It seems like it won't be even that much. I'll still be able to play Mario 64. Yeah, but it's my 63. Yeah, 63. You have one like less C button on your controller. There's no trigger on the on the third. Oh, that sounds bad actually. Yeah. And the Zelda game is Ocarina of slime. Ocarina of slime. I would play that. It seems fun. Well, when Link plays the Ocarina, you get dumped with Gack. You can't be dumped with Gack. It's hard. It's like a squishy fit. It would hurt. Yeah.

I guess that's why it's hell. All right. Final thoughts on Halal, guys. Dave will begin with you. So give your sort of closing argument on this chain and then ascribe it a fork rating on the order of zero to five forks. Okay, this is in my opinion, superior drunk food. It's also just good for hangovers or just if you're hungry. It's everything that you would want to put into a disgusting bowl when you're feeling kind of down on yourself or physically sick. Right. You know, you want to you want to really like embrace feeling physically sick by eating it at Halal guys. It's delicious. Where else can you find a packet of white mess that's 55 percent

of your daily value of fat nowhere else? The bags themselves. I just sorry to interject, but quickly the bags themselves just like the feel of them are like hefty. It's like hefty and like loose. It's a weird. They are. They are. They are just they are kind of just a bag of fat like you're felt a breast implant before. That's that's basically what it is. Yeah. I felt my own breasts and they feel similar to the white sauce packets. Also, this is an important thing at a fast food chain. In my opinion, limited menu. Right. When you go to a place like a Carl's Jr or a Wendy's and they start having novelties like, you know, extreme chalupa burrito at Taco Bell or what have you? You know they've gone off the rails.

Yeah. When they're like, we've got queso now. Like there's no way you can do queso well. There's no way this is going to taste like dirt. Why? Why? I have talked about this before. We like Taco Bell trying it. Other places try it and they fail miserably. Yeah. And we also like a menu where they tell you what you should eat. Like there was. So we have two sides of this one. I like that Taco Bell has his classics and then it tries some insane stuff. Wendy's is kind of the same thing. They kind of mix up stuff up a little too much. We've talked about before on the podcast, but you're right. I think that I think when it comes to like just here's our classics. Here's what you should eat and then you eat it and you like it. You know what I mean? Don't have a

billion options and a billion different weird thing. I'm fine with a little whimsy from your Taco Bells or your jack in the boxes of the world, but at the core of things, you need to have a really strong basic menu and this is a this has got some sides. It's got the sandwich versus the plate. There's a dessert. There's beverages. There's one weird beverage. It's a it's a it's a perfect chain menu in the way that in and out is a perfect chain menu and you can have your secret menu items and what have you. I got to give it. I got to give it four forks for four forker. I like it. Very good score. I like it. All right, Mitch, go ahead. Let me get some water while you're talking. Are you are you still feeling the heat? I've got a little bit of burn,

but also we got a snack segment coming up. So I want a little bit of a palette cleanser. Hey, Nick, will you give me one of those waters you had to get you into Dave? How you doing on water? I'll take another one. Emma, you need a water? All right, I'll get I'll get four waters. Mitch, you start talking. That's right. You fucking water fetching bitch. I love Mediterranean food. I love Greek food. I I eat it a lot of the time to be healthy and you and you know that for the most part, if you if you if you do it the right way, you can get some salmon and if you don't get you know to if you don't get right, if you keep the

rice and pita to a low level, you can have a little bit of hummus. You can have a little bit of whatever else and it can be healthy. Mediterranean food can be healthy. Thank you, Nick. You water fetching bitch and and this place is like you said is not healthy at all. Not not even close. It's it's insanely unhealthy, but it's fuck. It's good. It is good. What they and and you know, honestly, I I I like the sandwiches more than I like the combo platters because they just pack them filled with everything that you need and there's so much meat in them. Mine was a little skimpy on the meat today and and I think the fries are fantastic. The hummus is good and it's different. It's different

from Zanku. It's different from a lot. They're right. Like they said, they are different and it would be great drunk food and it's also a great. I mean it's a great meal. It's it's when you're when you're feeling a little naughty and you want to have something bad. It's good. That white sauce is is really something else. They they if this place goes out of business, I feel like that white sauce could sell forever because it's it's it's awesome. I feel that way, but the pita too. The pita is like a weird, like squished yes bungees quality texture to it and I love that. That's why I do like the sandwich though. The nice thing about the platter man is there's no spillage. You do it like BK. You can do it your way with the with the with the platter and

you got a big pit that you what's that I always do in my way baby and you got a big huge tin pit that you you can spill anything you want in there and you're fine. Yep. Nick I'm going for forks as well. Nice. Wow. I like it. I like how I do. I like it. I think it's good and I think it's different. I'm not going to get it a lot of the times because of the unhealthy factor. It's like when I eat ramen, I had ramen this week and I'm like that's the first time I've had ramen in a long time because it is so it's just fat and ramen's bad for you. Isn't it? I don't fucking know. A ramen is like soup. It must be good. It's pork fat. I think it's just so much fat. I don't know. I think if you're just like I don't think people

are getting super fat off of ramen necessarily, but I think there's just a lot of salt and starch you're getting from that. So it's maybe not that if you're if you're trying to watch what you eat, it's maybe not the most helpful meal like before this show when I be like I got Wendy's and I eat Wendy's every so often and now you know it's an I'm addicted to the fast food and we eat it every week, but but it's that sort of thing where it's this is a treat right, but it's a good treat and they do it well. It's good for forks. Yeah. Uh-oh. Wager. I'm not a water fetching bitch. You're the bitch bitch. The hell. All right. I like Halal guys. I thought this was a this was a very good meal. Here's the thing. I don't feel like I got the full Halal guys experience and I

think that is my failing as a commentator and as a judge and I don't feel like I can I can issue a definitive verdict here because this is no we got we got I mean we got it to go and and it's not and and also to our order got we didn't get the correct version like I got like rice I didn't get the I didn't get the full veggies. You don't need to eat there to get the experience. There's the dining experience is is marginal at best, right, but I do at minimum I need to get a to go order. That is like correct. I feel like I need to get like the the correct rate, but that said that said I will give a verdict here. I will give a an in progress verdict and incomplete and based off of what I had today, I would give this three forks. I think it's very I think it's

good. I think it could be. I think like if I had like because you're implying that the lettuce and tomato is a full fork. Is that what? No, but is that what you're saying? Is that what the difference maker is? I guess so because I like I feel like I have to have the full thing based off of what I had this version that was brought to us by a postmates driver. I think like it was good. I've starred post postman. He was a good guy. He didn't I'm not putting on the postmates driver and put I did the company's the issue, but I mean like the no one's blaming Arvin the postmates driver. No one, but the the Baba Ganoushe that was very good. I agree that Pita I do like the lightness and fluffiness of it. The rice I thought was was good and you had some some nice

season to it. The meat I thought was like was everything was good. It was like eating stuff right now and being reminded of how good it was a good meal, but I just feel like I need to I may update my score, but I can't in good conscience put what I had today into the Golden Plate Club because that would be that would be me giving the score. I want to give this chain because I want it to succeed and I want to like it. But based off of what I had, I don't think I can quite go that far. It is good and I do want to go back, but yes. Yes. As for now, it's a great work experience. Lettuce is a full four. That's one fork off for no lettuce. But you know what? It would be lettuce that's mixed in with hot meat. It would be hot lettuce. It would be basically a

hot salad, which for Nick, you probably give it seven. It would be 10 for this is all a long con for you Mitchell. You set this up. You said no lettuce and tomato so you could zing me with that later. I know your game very dastardly of you. This is not. This is not what I was doing. I liked it. I think this is a four four plus. I do. I enjoy it quite a bit. I think it's good. I definitely think it's good. I just I feel like I have to. I feel like I have to try it again. I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm mad too. I'm mad at him too. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry, but I don't apologize for being wrong. Yeah, it's okay. You're allowed to be wrong. I don't want to start a whole thing here. I'm just trying to be honest. Well, you did. Yeah. Well, we'll get it. We'll get it next.

I'll get it again and I'll let you guys know. I just I feel like it. This was just no email me when you decided to come join the rest of us in society. I'll send you a Twitter DM, please. All right. Hey, you know, that was our review of the hall guys. It's time for a regular segment. We've got a food stuff. We're gonna decide if it's worth putting in your mouth. It's snack or whack. And hey, we've got a very special edition. Dave, your wife, Maddie, who is a listener to the show, made us some cookies, which was very nice of her. Yeah. Can I read the note? Oh, please do. Okay. Okay. So she wrote a note on here. It says Dear Doe Boys. That includes you, Mitch. Thank you. The Butterscotch was supposed to be more melty and less flesh colored. Please enjoy nonetheless.

Four Forks question mark. Oh, love Maddie and Ozzie, and there's a heart. Oh, yeah. So should we dig into these? Yeah, they're sweet. Okay. I got to get the plate back. Yeah, so no deal. The plate stays. Oh man. That looks good. So it's a cookie cake deal. I'm a snap. Oh wow. Yeah, please do. These. These look interesting and good as hell here. Let me. Hey, Dave, can you pull that cord out of the way? Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's not very appetizing, isn't it? No one's gonna eat that core. I grab. I want to grab the cord a second ago. It's not part of the presentation. So this looks like, yeah, this is like a giant. It's like Pizookie size. It's pretty jumbo-sized cookie with a lot of those Butterscotch chips. Nick, is this gonna be inconclusive because

there's no hot salad, sir? Come on. I can't judge it because there's no lettuce on it. What the fuck? All right, so let's dig into this cookie cake. All right. Okay. Okay. Dave, has your wife made you this before? Oh, please do. No, it's over. This was specifically for the show. Wow. Does she do a lot of baking? Absolutely not. That just shows you how much she likes this podcast. Wow. She's never baked a single thing for me. No, it's just very rare. We have a child. Well, Betty actually, I think, was the connection that got you on the podcast because she mentioned you to me and I knew you're writing, but I didn't know you would ever be someone who'd want to come on our show. Yeah, I thought I was just really good at stuff.

No, no, no, you are great. You just did this for my wife? No, that's not true at all. No, no, no, that's not what I was trying to say. You guys go to Emerson together. Is that what it was? Maddie and I? Yeah. I knew her through Armin. She's great. Okay. No, she, she met, she was a picture of her mentions. I had talked about Dave before to you before. Yeah, but I don't listen to you. Yeah, no, she's doing you out. That's what it is. You are on our, we have a, we have a Doughboys list that we're never going list that we fail with constantly. Right. And then we just get having Susser back on. Yeah. And people are like, why'd you get Susser again? Because we're doing it the night before. Sometimes we have a planned out and then we have to do it the night

before you. We've been meaning to have you for a guess for a long time. I don't know what the fuck Weigar is talking about. You play into him. He's an idiot. I'm, I've already said enough mean things to Weigar today about the salad situation. I said, here's all I was saying. Maddie was in my Twitter mentions and said, Hey, you guys should have Dave Schilling on. And I was like, I DMed you. I was like, Hey, Dave, I don't even know where you didn't know Dave. I've, I've known Dave for a while before today, but I know he's writing. I knew Maddie through Armin. She's cool as hell. They're a great combo. Great couple. Yeah. We really make a team. You make a great team. We made a baby too. We made a lot of stuff together. A great baby. And also Weigar,

I thought you knew this guy. I didn't know you didn't know him. We haven't met before. Have we? I don't think we've met. You know, we've never met before. Weigar doesn't know anyone. I don't know anyone. You really don't. I don't care. I'm just glad I'm here eating this. We're happy to have you here. And let me tell you, Maddie made Aussie with you, but she also made a great cake. This cookie cake is delicious. So I'm going to give it 12 Gatorade jugs. And that Gatorade jug is full of this cookie. Yeah. This is, uh, uh, with, uh, Hey, good cover, Weigar. Our next guest walked in and Weigar froze up. I didn't see what was going on. I saw you guys waving around. I was looking down at this cookie cake. I didn't know

what was going up. And then my eye line raised like eight mile. You froze. If this was the rap battle, you froze, you froze right in the middle and you only get one shot. Yeah. Right. Don't mom spaghetti. Mom spaghetti. Um, this is a mile. I would give mom spaghetti for forks. Yes. Of course. And you know what, Maddie? I'm giving these five forks. These are delicious. It's delicious. There you go, buddy. Delicious or 12 Gatorade jugs. We're on the same. We're on the same page. I got to come back for joctober fest. Mm hmm. Oh, please do. I was really sad. I couldn't do the ESPN sound because I had a lot of mean things to say. We're not going to do that again. Are we? Do we have to do it again? I hope we never do another themed October.

This is very good. I mean, it was delicious. That said, what if I just laid into this? I would love for you to. But it's actually legitimately very delicious. And you know, like you look at it and you're like, Oh, this is going to be super duper sweet, but it's not cloyingly sweet. It's like the appropriate level of sweet. You know, the only thing I'd say is that because I'll give this 12 Gatorade jugs, but a real, a real F you to our listeners that never going to get to experience this. A lot of times we're having a store bought snack and people can go try it for themselves. But this is a, this is a unique experience for us. Well, I have an announcement to make. We're opening an Etsy store for a first food stuff

they've ever had. I'm very excited about that. So they DM me on Twitter guys. DMs are open. This is, this is, this is delicious. It's really good. Nice. And I like how it's, I like my cookies nice and soft, like the even cookies or cookie cakes or cookie pies. I need to have that softness. And this guy, this has it. This has it. See, I'm on the opposite. I like my cookies. Like I like my Mitch brittle and hard. That was snack or whack. Just like a restaurant value feedback. Snack is my answer. Yeah. We also say snack. Yeah. Snack, snack all around. Plenty of Gatorade jugs. Let's open up the feedback. Today's email comes to us from Andrew S in Oakland. Andrew writes,

I wanted to ask this question at SF sketch fest, but the Spoon Man was 15 minutes late to his own live show. So he ran out of time. What? I've not, I've not been associated fast food with shameful binges, especially in my larger days. Back in college, I once ate seven McDoubles and seven McChickens in a single sitting. I used to regularly eat two, a $6 burgers from Carl's Jr.'s car snacks on the way to pick up other food, usually a full order of carne asada fries in San Diego. Last November, I participated in and completed the chicken nugget power hour on the night of my 28th birthday. I've mostly grown out of this behavior, but I wanted to ask you guys what's been your most shameful fast food binge and why Dave? Anything come to mind?

Did you ever have a binge phase where you just eat a bunch of fast food in one sitting? I'm so glad that this is the question and that Farley is here to witness this. I don't know. Can we mention that Farley? Please do. Farley Elliott. I don't know. Farley Elliott, I don't know. So Farley Elliott is there. Farley was literally there when this happened. We were all in Las Vegas and Farley was nice enough to get us a reservation at the new Momofuku in the cosmopolitan. Well, I had quite a bit of a feast and I had a lot of drinks and so after that was over, I got some dessert from the milk bar and then after that was over, I mysteriously drunkenly disappeared from the group and went to White Castle. I had a bag full of White Castle

and did you have, Farley, you're not on the microphone, but just yell. Did I give you any White Castle? I got the stainless leftovers because you refused to share almost any of them. So for the listener, I refused to share even though I'd had two meals already. That's, I had three meals in the span of two hours. I'm a bad sharer, but I will also offer to buy anyone, like I'll buy them, but once I have my mindset on what I want, I want it. I can't help it. You know what I mean? Like I'm a bad sharer, but I will get you, but I will share and I'll get you anything you want to get. Yeah, no, I'm not a sharer. What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine too. And you'll like this. I went to bed at like 11. There you go. 10, 30, 11 o'clock.

I was asleep. I like that. In Vegas. You've seen it. You've seen it all. I'm not rich. I'm not going to be able to, you know, go see a donkey show, gamble on, on a cock fights or whatever people do in Vegas. I don't know. I have been up very early in Vegas because I'll, you know, just would get up at six or seven and it is interesting because it's like a shift change because there's a lot of people who've just been gambling and drinking all night and they're just getting back and like you're, I'm like, I'm up getting my little cup of coffee. You fucking dork. There are people human centipeding in hotel rooms in Vegas and you're like, I went to sleep at 11. My food binge, I do come to mind. One is that I once had a Carl's Jr. double western bacon

cheeseburger combo, the large size combo. And then I chased that with an entire box of craft macaroni and cheese. Holy shit. That was a very, very large meal. But do you at least cook the mac and cheese? Yeah. Yeah. I just had that boy dry. But the, uh, that was, that was your booger sugar, the, the powder packet or that orange powder. Um, but the, uh, but the one that came to mind is, is more shameful when I used to live in this apartment complex in the palms neighborhood of West Los Angeles. And it was this gigantic sprawling apartment complex with a courtyard. And if you got delivery, uh, then they would come to like the gate and you have to walk all the way through the courtyard. And so I, uh, I, I got a, I got a, like a large pizza and like 12,

like a, like a thing of like 12 or 16 wings just for myself. And then I just remember like, and I think I also got breadsticks. And this was a meal that I knew I was going to eat all by myself, like in one sitting, but just like, like that physical walk of shame from the gate, from picking it up from the delivery guy, then walking through the courtyard. And I went by a bunch of like, there were a bunch of kids playing in the pool and they were like trying to ask me for wings or breadsticks. And I was like, no. And just sort of like kept marching and no, and went back into my hovel and then just eat it all by myself. Kids were asking, Oh, I think I've heard this before. Yeah. I know I was serious, but then also whatever junk you want to make of that. Oh,

yes. That's what I meant. Yeah. Put that one together on your own. Um, I, this, just this weekend I had a binge at Jack's wedding. Maddie Smith had gone to McDonald's. He got like a, a big Mac meal and they gave him his order and he was like, are you sure this is mine? It feels kind of heavy and they're like, we're sure it's yours. It was taped up. He got back to his place. It was one hundred nuggets. Wow. It was a hundred nuggets and I had already. So Armin and I secretly stopped it in an out burger. I got a cheese. I got a, I got a just a single cheeseburger, no lettuce and no tomato with onion to both types of onions and the sauce and in pickles and stuff animal style, but no lettuce and tomato. And I loved it by the way. I want to say that I had

never done no lettuce and tomato and the, the lettuce and tomato can sometimes just be too much in there is what I'm figuring out. Uh, I see. I don't like the hot. I want the hot salad gone. Come on. But I'm, I'm, I'm saying, I'm telling you, I didn't like it. What's the, the jack in the box burger that doesn't have lettuce and tomato is just like, Oh yes. Is that the sourdough jack? Is that it? No, no, no. It's the, um, ultimate cheeseburger. There's just, it's just cheese and meat. Oh yeah. Yeah. That one is great. Yeah. And that, and I really like that in and out. So, but anyways, we had that in an out burger. We went up, we had dinner and then at the end of the night, Matty's like, I got a hundred nuggets. I went up there.

I ate 27 nuggets after all of this and that's like a power. Like when we did the power hour, right? Like 40 something, right? But this, and I hadn't eaten up. This was after all of that. So this was a big, this was after the dinner at the wedding. It was after a dinner, the rehearsal dinner. Okay. Okay. And also up in an out burger, but I never, I, my next bit, I'm trying to eat healthy. This, this weekend was honestly truly with like my last hurrah. Sure. And, and I'm trying, I'm trying to eat healthy. It's impossible because of the show that we do. It's bad. Yeah. Um, but, but my binges were always just the latest because I could eat a Domino's pizza by my, you know what I mean? Like I'll just have nights where I'll eat a bunch of

Taco Bell. I'll do some bad binges every so often. Yeah. So I can't think of like a specific one besides that maybe. So you just sort of the latest one, right? The latest one too many to remember too many to remember. Your answer is your life. My life. I mean, I've, when I lived it, I lived in another address down on Citrus Ave, 645 South Citrus Ave, my old address. If anyone wants to go and check it out and I pay the current tenants a visit. Just one of you start doing your tour again. The landlady was mean, so go tell her she was mean, but I fell asleep with a burger in my hand. I remember I woke up on the couch with a burger in my hand one morning. What a wonderful surprise. It's like you've done half your work for the

day already. It's already there. I was either a Carl's Junior or a Jack in the Box burger, but it was in my hand and I had it. I had taken a few bites of it, but I fell asleep with it in my hand. Jack in the Box has tripped a fan in it. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's that classic turkey burger. Hey, you know, if you out there have a crazy binge eating experience, hashtag binge worthy. Let us know. Listen to that time. You just went crazy. And if you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, email us at doboyspodcast at gmail.com. Dave Schilling, thank you so much for being here. The Masked Man podcast is on the ringer network. If you're a fan of people talking about the squared circle,

anything else you would like to plug at this time. Oh man, I'm selling T-shirts. I have a T-shirt based on my catchphrase on my podcast. Whoa. Hell yeah. Yeah. It's a I said. Chicanery is the word. It's like, you know, when somebody cheats in a wrestling, right? Oh yeah. Chicanery. So that's the word started to become popular with the fan. So it just says that and has a cartoon in my face on the back. That's a lot of fun. The first thing, the first version had a cartoon in my face on the front. No one wanted to buy that. Oh, well, let's move it to the back. So you can get that on prowrestlingtease.com. Hell yeah. Hey, check that out. Dave, a good man, a very funny man, and cool, and tons of cool sports stories. Yeah, God bless you. I'm going to bother you about when we're

off the podcast. Oh yeah. And you got a great wife and a great baby, baby boy. So congratulations to you. Congrats on all the success all around. Yeah. God bless you both. God bless you. And on that note, Nick, are we done? Yeah, that'll do for this episode of Dough Boys. It's the next time for the Spood Red Back Mitchell. I'm Nick Weiger. Happy eating. Go get me another water, you bitch. Want more Dough Boys? Get the Dough Boys double our weekly bonus episode by joining the Golden Plate Club on patreon.com slash Dough Boys.