Doughboys - The Toothsome Chocolate Emporium & Savory Feast Kitchen with Mark Rennie

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

Mark Rennie (@markrennie, Eat Pray Dunk) joins the 'boys to talk Muppets, horror movies, and air frying before a review of The Toothsome Chocolate Emporium & Savory Feast Kitchen. Plus, another edition of Frank Check.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://www.britannica.com/biography/Roald-Dahlhttps://www.orlandosentinel.com/2016/08/19/not-willy-wonka-universal-hit-with-40m-chocolate-factory-lawsuit/https://www.courthousenews.com/ohio-man-says-universal-dealings-not-so-sweet/https://uofan.com/news/should-universal-be-concerned-about-the-toothsome-40-million-lawsuit/https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/inside-universal-studios-hollywoods-toothsome-195025652.htmlhttps://www.universalorlando.com/web/en/us/things-to-do/dining/toothsome-chocolate-emporium-and-savory-feast-kitchen/the-story-of-toothsome.htmlSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. Want to watch this episode? Check it out on our YouTube channel by going to YouTube.com slash doughboys media. In 1964, Roll Doll published Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, a children's novel that introduced the world to eccentric chocolatier Willy Wonka. A 1971 film adaptation starring Gene Wilder further established the character as a pop culture icon, an entrenched visual language for doll's fantastical world, with its chocolate river and diminutive, orange-skinned and green-haired umpalumpas. The Wonkaverse and the greater

doll canon persists in the public consciousness more than three decades after the author's death in 1990. So much so that Universal created a new chocolate factory IP, both similar enough to attract crowds, but distinct enough to evade litigation, in the same way that a Jay Leno mask may be sold at a Spirit Halloween store with a label Talk Show host. But although, with plausible deniability, just after the cocoa-themed restaurant's August 2016 opening at Universal City Walk Orlando, the company was in fact sued. Not by the Dahl Estate, nor by Wonka film IP holder Warner Brothers, nor by Wonka candy license holder Nestle, but rather by Adam Limley, an Ohio-based entrepreneur who claimed to have pitched the idea to Universal nearly a decade

prior. The $40 million lawsuit was ultimately decided in Universal's favor, and Limley was forced to cover the multinationals legal fees. Orlando-based law firm Johnson Moss points to the case as an illustrative lesson, quote, protect your ideas before you disclose them with a confidentiality or non-disclosure agreement, end quote. But although the concept survived and expanded, now with a triforce of outposts bordering universal theme parks in Hollywood, Orlando, and Beijing, in December of 2024, as a cost-saving measure, the company announced its two walk-around characters, gender-swapped Wanka Analog Penelope Toothsome, and steampunk Chocobot Jacques would be retired.

from active duty. So has this vaguely Art Nouveau-themed chocolate bar? Not that kind. And restaurant evaded legal peril but still steered itself toward financial ruin? This week on Do Boys, the toothsome chocolate emporium and savory feast kitchen. Welcome to Do Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Tiger Weiger, along with my co-host, the Just Barely Running Man,

aka the I'm Not Running Man, aka the rubbing man, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell. Okay, so usually when you get a roast, you get one chance. We had kind of a theme here. We had a few different running man submission. Oh, yeah, it was a running man theme. I noticed that.

Alex from Denver, go Nuggets, Johnny P. and Danny N sent those in respectively. Roast at Birdfunk.com. Oh, okay. Different. So you wanted to use a bunch of different use. Well, I was like, the time is, you know, the Edgar Wright running man as of this record is ever so briefly in the zeitgeist. We don't know when this episode is coming out.

It's the right time to use it. Yeah, it's the only time. Now or never. You know, my complaint, I haven't seen the movie yet. I'm seeing it tomorrow night. I saw it, and then I also rewatched the Shortsnaker movie like the day after. And you know that my, you know, my, I invited you to come to tomorrow night to watch a movie, but you

went and saw it beforehand with with you you've you've made your decision yeah it sounds like i said that me and gabris and uh cullen and ben rogers uh cullen crawford and ben rogers are all going a fun grew uh no natalie and i saw it over the week all right now look natalie you get you get nick before i do it's that's the deal uh but uh i i my my complaint about it is that i want like megaman style villains and it seems like there's not any of those in the movie. No, it's like the source, which is a little bit more grounded, where the stalkers or the hunters, I believe they're called, are just like kind of like guys. They're just guys with guns. So you don't have like what you had in the game show slash pro wrestling version.

I think that's a great ad in the Schwarzenegger. With the family feudus. I agree. It's a lot more fun. It's a lot more watchable. It's got a much better pace to it. But you've got like, you know, Sub-Zero is one of the, who I believe the Moral Combat character named Sub-Zero is from the Running Man. Yeah, but it's a different, a sub-zero. He's like a hockey guy who's also got, I think he's just, I think he just has like a hockey stick that, like, cuts you in half. Yeah, yeah. It's a gong in half with it and then, like, has an exploding pot. That's, that's sub-zero.

And then there's a, uh, then there's Dynamo, who's the opera singer who's got electricity powers. Dynamo's very fun. Dynamo's great. And it was a real opera singer. He was a real opera singer. Yeah, and it has like a strange, there's some strange history to Dynamo. He, he, the actor who played Dynamo passed away before the 1987, seven running men came out.

That's what it was. I guess it's not really weird history. It's just sad. It's sad, yeah. And then there was, there's Fireball who's played by Jim Brown. That's right. A legend.

And then I'm trying to remember the other one. Jesse Ventura. Jesse Ventura is and it is, I think, Captain Freedom. But he walks, doesn't he walk away? Doesn't he like,

doesn't he? Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's part of what happens later in the movie. It's, it's, but yes, they try to deploy him.

And then they, they end up doing a whole, a whole fake, like a proto AI thing. This is an, oh, that's right. There is a proto AI moment. They do a fake video, they do a deep fake of Jesse Ventura killing Schwarzenegger and they're going to broadcast it to be like, see, the running man's dead. So we won, you know.

We have a movie buff, I would say, here as our guest. Very much so. Who the fuck is the other one? There's another one. Don't worry about it. No, there's another one. Are you excited for any new movies coming up? Um, I did a new Park Chan Wook movie.

Do I want to check that out? The Simpsons movie sequel? I didn't have a few years away. I just saw Selman. Did you really? Yeah, yeah. I heard a rumor about the new one. You know how the first movie shows Bart's Dick?

Yeah. I hear the sequel's going to have Marge Vaj. Wow. What a scoop. Blue hair. Blue bush and a little bit of labia. That's, yeah. They're going to show.

How detailed are they going to get, I wonder? Because that's a whole thing with the anatomy. The animator's decision, honestly. It's all a little. I hope very detailed. Let me get a look at those meat flaps. Jesus. You know what?

Speaking of movies, I saw Alana Hame at a restaurant dealer. How about that? I won't docks where it was, but I saw a lot. Celeb sighting. A celeb sighting. Only in L.A. You know what?

It's a place where I tell people to go for celib sightings and they don't listen to me. Do I want me to say it and we can bleep it? Yeah, just say it. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you think everyone would know that? No. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that that's, I think that's just the old school Hollywood.

You think saying it on the podcast will now prime our listeners to go to this establishment. I'm looking up for Alana Haim. I want to. And other celebrities who like to hang out there in a low-key fashion. Hey, I'm there. I've certainly seen celebrities there. Yeah, yeah, I'm there too. I sat next to a celebrity of the bar there. Can you say who?

Jerry O'Connell. Wow. Pretty cool, huh? You could have, I'm sure you met him a hundred times of funnier die. I mean, but it's still, it's cool. That's pretty good. Yeah, I don't really know him, but, you know. I, I saw, uh, I've seen Hame and I saw Ham and Hame.

Yeah, I've seen ham there. I, you see, ham is there quite a bit. Yeah. Anyways, we're not going to docks this place because there's some inside stuff you guys don't get to know about. Am I right? We got to stay, we got to keep some stuff for the Hollywood insiders. Hollywood's coming back. Hollywood's coming back.

You guys don't get to know everything about it. That's the, that's the, that's the, deal. Mitch, I, you know, I'm spillmonger. I'm always spilling. That's true. I had a pre-show spill. I got myself a bean and cheese burrito that was eating as a meal. And I had two little cups of salsa. Oh, I thought you spilled the beans for a second. No, I didn't spill. I'm going to spill the beans on this spill, which was a salsa spill. I, like, I finished my burrito and I was like, oh, great, I got out of that clean. Like, lowered my hand and inadvertently hit one of the two salsa cups, the red salsa cup and just blasted sauce all over my cross. Did you have to change shorts? No, I didn't change my shorts. I just kind of clean them up with some dish soap. I think it did a pretty good job. I think it's fairly, I mean, there's sort of a vague staining, but it's nothing too visible.

Hey, if you pulled the Bart Simpson in that way, eat my shorts, it would be, I think that you'd have more takers with a nice salsa. I'll pull Bart Simpson from the Simpsons movie. Skateboard naked? Why did we, why didn't, we didn't want to really see Bart's dick, did we? It's a funny gag, but no, we didn't really want to see it. had to see. I didn't, I wasn't, I wasn't like dying to see Bart's dick finally. It's weird. Well, yeah, I wasn't dying to see an animated child's penis. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's a child. This is what I'm saying. He's, I, like, uh, canonically in fifth grade, I believe.

We should, we should grill a salmon on this, but I think they overestimated how much we wanted to see Bart's dick. Yeah. I get it. It is funny. There, there's child nudity in that movie, but there's no blood in the itchy and scratchy because they were trying to get a PG-13 rating. That's wild. Versus, you what? It's a, it's a blood bath on TV. Totally different standard. You loved that moment, right? Yeah. That solidified it for five stars on Letterbox.

War out my VHS. Emma, let's hit him with a drop. I like in a rock and roll song where there's just a guy talking. You know what I'm talking about? We're rocking all time and we're going to keep on rocking a no. Yeah, everyone knows what I'm talking about. We've got to keep on rocking for as long as we're rocking. We're going to keep on rocking.

I'm talking about, like, you know, like, you hear, like, a, the weezer. Yeah. You know, uh, call me, baby. What is it? Is that saying it so? Hey, man, I'll see you after the show. You don't know what I'm talking about. I like, I like, I like some, I like some, like a little bit of dialogue.

I like some dialogue. Yeah, song. I mean, pretty good. A great way to end the drop. The, my least favorite type of drop, which is me listening to our podcast, which, and I'm just like, this sucks, you know? Yeah. It's a bad. You're not even

paying attention to me. What are you doing over there? I like the drop. I didn't. That's what I'm saying. I thought it was good. Hey, dough boys. Here's a little drop

about Mitch's love for rock and roll and misremembering Weezer song titles. Thanks to Count Dropula for the inspiration at the end. Oh, Joe, all the best, Joe Bastion. I liked the drop too. It was good, Joe. Thank you. It's taken some of us talking,

some of us bloviating and recontextualizing it as an audio collage. That's what a drop is all about. What the fuck? I liked that they sort of took the thing that we riffed out and then they added some musical accompaniment and gave it a little bit more.

Yeah, that's always been the drop. I like it. What are you looking at over there? Are you looking at the... I just have my outline up. It's just my outline. All right, let's get our guest in here. Jobs at birdfuck.com.

Our guest today, a writer, podcaster, a friend, Mark Rennie. Hi, Mark. Hello. Thanks so much for making your debut here in the main feed. We've had you on the Do Boys Double, where we previously discussed Muppets canon.

Very controversial. Well, here's the thing. We know you're a Muppets man. Yes. We're recording this amidst the Christmas season. A Muppets Christmas Carol, I feel like you're less of an enthusiast than Mitch. This does make me mad at you. I'm going to get his dander up. Can't do this.

Yeah, it's my fourth favorite Muppet movie. Fourth favorite, still pretty good. So what's Muppet movies number one? I would maybe caper You like caper one That's pretty funny Okay Charles Groden

Sure Yeah And then Muppet movie And then taking Manhattan I mean Muppet Caper Correct me if I'm wrong Has one of my favorites

Of all time Hey a movie Yeah there's gonna be Oh the opening like Yeah yeah yeah I always get that opening Confused with the Superman 3 opening They're very similar

What happens In the Superman 3 opening? It's like Richard Pryor Doing a whole bunch Like physical stuff Oh right Like, isn't it also like a sheet glass gag? Yeah, it's like a New York City street sort of thing going on.

But that song, I love that. This might be your favorite Muppet movie. I thought you would, I thought you would be on board with this immediately. Look, I haven't had Disney Plus in years. I'm not rewatching it. I agree with that. I don't, I'm not a Disney Plus fan. Paramount Plus?

Paramount Plus I'm more okay with. Yeah. Peacock. You know, I'm on Team Peacock. But yeah, not a Disney Plus. and Netflix thumbs down for me. Fair enough. Where did the plus come from?

We just do we just normalize plus. What's the additives? What are we talking about? What are we getting? Stuff at home? How about Disney stream? How's that? That works?

Disney stream. Everyone knows what they're getting. I agree. They do know where they're getting. Use the plus. Add the stream. I agree. Plus who can't.

What does plus mean? That's what I'm what? That was my question. I know. I'm on board with you. Plus what? I don't like plus. More at home, I guess.

I guess. Yeah, I don't like it. Thumbs down. Your Muppet enthusiasm comes from the TV show. Yes, that's why I grew up with the TV show. Yeah, yeah. That's my, yes. What's, which, which TV show specifically? The original. It was just called The Muppets. The Muppet Show. The Muppet show. I'd say, yeah, this is the Muppets is kind of a black box to me. Like, I've seen Muppet babies and then I've seen the Muppet movies that we watch for. Wait a minute. You've seen Muppet babies? That's it? I've seen Muppet babies. That was, that was a whole thing. What was even your connection to it? I mean, like, well, it was just a cartoon that was on. And so I was just like, Oh, Muppet Babies, I'll watch this. And then when I watched the actual...

Is this recent? Yeah. Oh, Muppet Babies. I'll watch this. This is last week. Steam bar stick enough times. Yeah. When I was a kid, no, it was just a show that was on.

So I just watched it like I watched anything, you know? And so I just had it on. And then when I saw the actual live action Muppets and their puppets, I was like, they look weird. And they didn't like them as much as I liked the cartoon. Oh, my God. So that's one reason I never got into the Muppets. For the purpose of this podcast, I did watch. You're an insane man.

No, I'm just saying that was my kid brain. The original movies was weird. But that was my kid brain processing it. If I saw the original first, it's some people who saw the prequels before they saw the sequel or the original movies, rather. They've seen episode one, two, and three,

and then they see four, five, and six. Like, these look old. Why does everything look like it's from the 70s? So you watch the Mubbitcho and you're like, where are their legs? Exactly. It takes you out of it. Yeah.

Why is their music running through this whole thing? Where's Nanny? We love. talk about legs blah boom there is you know what there is a segment

in Muppets Take Manhattan where you see the Muppet Babies Wow that's fun In live action Wow how about that Look We'll talk about

Is that the third one? Yes Okay We'll talk about this in Munk The Mank We're gonna do Muppet Mank Oh yeah We might do a Muppets month

At some point Monk Oh yeah So you've never watched Like the original show From like the late 70s No You should

The Linda Lavin episode Okay Mom and Shans did an episode There's all these weird Like 70s figures that like We're popular at the time But now you've never heard of

Yeah Elton John has a fun one Oh yeah That's a famous one Yeah When he's the crocodile rock Right Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

Yeah Vincent Price did an episode Wow I think he would love I mean You'd have to get Disney Plus Oh boy Or just buy the DVDs on eBay

Okay Support local business By the way we're launching doughboys plus. Oh. You can see our feet. That's all it is. That's all it is.

You can see our feet. And every staff member is involved. Toboys. To boys. To boys is pretty good. To boys plus. You can make a mint.

I think sadly we have said this before that like if we just sold our buttholes we would probably do pretty well. I wonder. Like this is the thing. There's no amount. There's no amount.

out, though, would make me feel good. Because a million dollars. No, I mean. I feel great. No, here's what I mean. Here's what I mean. I send it for free. If we're putting it up there and we're putting it behind the paywall and it's like wildly popular, I'm like, okay, so this is what people really want. They just, they want like butthole.

But then if it's not, I'm like, well, people aren't even like interested in my butt hole. You know what I mean? That's what some people. Maybe these people were buying the butthole never would have listened to the podcast. You know what I mean? Maybe you're just finding a new. audience. I'm not sure how much the Venn diagram

overlaps. You're right. I've never seen my own, so I maybe would subscribe to see what it looks like. For health reasons. For health reasons. Yeah. You never tossed a hand mirror back there? I've never done that before. Never spread the cheeks at the bathroom mirror? I've never, didn't you say that you looked under your legs at one? Didn't you look

through your legs at one point? Well, the thing I told is I took a hand mirror because I wanted to see what this one was a little boy. I wanted to see what it looked like when P was coming out of my, my dick. And so I held a hand mirror in front of my little kid dick and then just sprayed pee directly onto it.

Part of the mirror? Yeah. You wanted like the toilet's point of view? Yeah, I just want to see what

you saw. Ah, to be a toilet. A child's imagination. It's a beautiful thing. You gotta get on a,

I guess to see the Muppet show, you're going to get on Disney Plus. Yeah. A lot of great Muppets. I think he would love the Muppet movie.

I bet I would. And also here's a spoiler for you. You might see Muppets with, you might see a whole body Muppet at some point. Okay. I just have a hard time with, like, the newer, like, Post-Henson ones because it kind of feels like they were doing, like, their S&L character.

Like, it's like, it's like, it's like seeing someone else do, like, John Belushi's samurai. You know what I mean? It's like, that was their thing. Yes. And it feels weird to have someone else do, like, this character was, like, such a part of, like, their original puppeteer personality. Sure.

It was like their pitch. It was their character. So it always kind of, there's, like, weird disconnect to me where it feels like, it's like cosplay. Sometimes we'll still pick up Miss Piggy, right? Like a- When he's alone. In the dark. There's going to be a Miss Piggy movie.

That's, I'm excited. Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Stone and Cole from O'Mary, Cole. Scola. Scola is writing. How about that? Is writing it. Yeah, very exciting. Yeah.

We'll get, we're going to get you familiarized with the Muppets at some point. What about Dark Crystal? I must have seen Dark Crystal at some point. It seems up of your alley. I mean, what about you saw Labyrinth and all that stuff? She's in Labyrinth, yeah. I like Labyrinth. Yeah, Labyrinth is good.

It's fine. So-so on it? It's fine. What is it? Okay, it's amazing. I mean, Labyrinth is good. It's very good. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, look, I think that it got very popular. Is that the issue? Is it become too popular? Yeah. Too popular. I like uncool Muppet things. So you like the S&L Muppet segments that were on that are like super dog shit? I don't think I ever see any of those?

Only when I watched Saturday night. there was a reenactment of there was but they they use like they don't have the rights to the Muppets so they have like a public domain Muppet yeah they were like really shitting on Jim Henson in that movie

yeah for some reason they were like oh let's make this guy look like a asshole like consider like so benevolent yeah people love to yeah I don't know I don't know I didn't get that take as much in Saturday night

but besides that perfect movie um yeah well I think you would love a lot of the Muppet canon so you are you are a movie man as Mitch mentioned. Do you have any 20-25 films

that you particularly enjoyed or had a strong reaction to? Well, I just saw my brother's here. I took him for the third time. I saw one battle after another for the third time. Wow.

I've seen it on three unique formats. Have you seen it? I had not seen it. Wow. And what did you, what do you think? It was crazy. Yeah, it's great. It's great.

I loved it. Mark, your brother, Mike, we should explain. It's not in the studio under duress. No, no, no. He's not tied to a chair. We're torturing him by making him sit around and this dog shit.

But I love that. Speaking of Hame, she's in there. Yeah, poor little wig gets blown right off. Spoiler. Yeah, yeah. It's on digital now. I think it's on. I haven't seen it yet.

Oh, no. You haven't seen it yet? There's a fan and blows her wig off. And then she's distressed for a little bit. Everything's fine. You're fine. Everything's fine. It was great.

What else? I like to clown in a cornfield. Did you see clown in that? Cornfield. Like, it's not great, but I was, like, entertained. I normally don't like teenagers in movies. Yeah, sure. So I'm not interested in their stakes.

Like, there's no stakes. You're fine. Yeah. You're going to be alive another 20 years. It'll be fine. Yeah. But this one I thought had pretty funny teens. Okay.

I was entertained. It's a horror movie? Yeah, it's like a slasher. Okay. But it's based on a series of young adult novels. Oh, wow. But they made it, like, really violent. Wow.

You know what clown in Cornfield reminds me of that time your dad visited Iowa. Okay. You go too far. Clown-ass dad. Was he a clowner? No. This is a thing, Mitch, made up. This is my dad's clown.

A lovely man. I love your dad. This is the truth. He's a great man. I have probably equally meaningful conversations with your dad and you. And I talk to you a hundred times as much as your dad. A great guy. But I just like to call him a clown-ass dad because it's fun.

Fair enough. Oh, you know what I saw how to react to do was die my love? I just saw that. Oh, I got to see that. Robert Pattinson. There's like a thing with a dog in it where like the dog is just like it's meant to be annoying. But for like 15 minutes, it feels like the dog is like constantly barking. Wow.

And it's like meant to be annoying the character, but it is also annoying me. Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's funny. Spoiler. This was the first time ever in a movie I was happy a dog died. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I normally like hate when dogs die in movies.

I don't like, but like this was the first. I was like, oh, thank God. It's over. Wow. Because it was so aggravating. But you're like, yes, put this dog out of its, put us out of our misery. If Jimmy ever dares barking here, we're going to put her in a silence of the lamb mask so that you can't do it again. We're going to muzzle her ass.

Right, Jimmy? Good girl. See, she doesn't do it, though. A perfect podcast dog. She really is. She's cute as hell. Wow. She's been, she barked at me out of excitement, which I love.

She does like greeting barks, little tiny baby hello barks. Yeah, it was like a little, like, she was so excited today, too. And then that excitement went right out as soon as we started to record. All that excitement went away. Clown and Cornfield, the horror is like a genre you're a fan of it. Yeah, I like a lot of horror. Do you have any, because I know we're talking shutter a little bit when we're at lunch, but do you have any particular horror favorites?

I mean, they could be all-timers or they could be recent picks. Well, like my favorite slasher of all time is probably the original sleepaway camp. Okay, yeah. Great movie. Very fun. Yeah, that's a hoot. At first, you think, like, 20 years ago, I think it was considered problematic, but now it has actually been embraced by, like, the queer community of, like,

yes, this is why you don't misgender people. It's, like, actually a positive message. Because look what happens. I was, like, told you could tell it's, like, made by people who haven't, like, normally made a movie. It has, like, this, it's made by a bunch of, like, people from Long Island, I think. So it has, like, that flavor. Right.

And very similar to the Simpsons movie, there is a scene, quite like that scene in the movie. Which one? There's, there's show hog. Oh, yes. There's a hog in the movie. You're about the dome? There's no dome and sleepaway camp. God damn it.

Sleepaway camp is a, that's a great one. Yeah. And then franchise, I always come back to the Nightmare and Elm Street franchise. Yeah, sure. So great. Love nightmare and Alstreet. I was thinking lately that, like, the new generation, when they think Freddie and horror, they're thinking Fasbear, five nights at Freddy's.

How dare you, these children. Because now they have the black phone, too, tried to do a Freddie thing. Try to do a Freddy thing. And he's totally lame. That's, he really, I haven't seen it. He doesn't do anything like in the dream world. There's no, like, difference between the dream world. The dream world looks exactly the same as the real world.

So, like, this guy's like no imagination. The grabber, like, sucks as an autour. Yeah, that's a bummer. We were, like, spoiled with Freddie. I was thinking of this. Grabber is, grabber. Also, I don't know what the name, the grabber. Justin Kylie, you know, you know, my very good friend,

Justin Kelly from Quincy. He took his daughter there and she's younger but loves horror movies. And when she left, she was like, that was like a lot like Freddy. from Nightmare on Elm Street and he was very proud of her for like knowing that's right Yeah Wasn't grab by

There was a there was a sleepover When I was a kid and they were gonna They had two different movie options One was a Freddie movie And one was a horror comedy Saturday the 14th Oh And they opted to see Saturday the 14th I thought it was funny

Like Richard Benjamin in that I don't know I remember why I ruined everyone's night No there were two different VCRs There were two different set up oh Yeah one room goes here one room It was exactly like someone goes a family room someone goes a living room what a palace i know right which as you know for my friend

dan tufo's birthday they all went to hot shots bart due and i went to see the super maro movie with his dad and his younger brother the three of us went together which is the dorkiest move you could make was like the three of us seeing this very shitty mario movie the uh it's bad right yeah but when you're a head you don't care yeah i was very excited to see mario and then i never really saw uh hot hot shot shot brought to do in theaters. It's not until it came on video. Oh, man, you missed out.

You got a big screen. Pat Proff, what a visionary. They really gave him to Saddam. There were some of the... They did some good work there. The Super Mario movie, the original, which I've now seen like a half dozen times, and each time I see it, I'm like,

maybe like it a little bit more, even though it's not good. It's a mass. It has no relation to the actual IP, but it's kind of just like, has a real aesthetic to it. And it's made by guys who have like the max head.

room guys who have some like visual panash. And so they've just made this sort of unique sort of film that you would never see today. Because at least it has like personality. Yeah, right. So many things are just lacking in personality. Everything just feels like they're trying to appeal to the most possible people. And it just feels like a corporate product. And now everyone has like a total, the license holder as such a stranglehold over their IP.

They had there imposing so many restrictions that you would never see something. Yeah. But it sucks too. They just recently came out with like a $70. like blue ray box set I'm like not every movie needs yeah you can just do a $24 4K is fine no we don't need the vinegar

syndrome release no not everything is a prestige right is is is it is is it better than the the uh the super Mario minions the illumination one I think the illumination one's a more functional movie and the illumination one does look awesome has some awesome looking sick looks good but I don't know about the I don't know about the rest of it you don't like Mario's arc of learning

mean to stay confident? I obviously learned nothing from it. Yeah, I don't know. Can I tell you what I like about shutter? Shudder, a thing you do when you're scared. But also a very important aspect of filmmaking, Nick. Yes, Mitch. The shutter helps with exposure.

Yes. Thank you. So when the shutter is opened. It's a homophone, of course. It's not spelled the same way. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Shutter with two Ds or two T's. Yes, yes.

I guess if you wanted to be a pedantic about pronunciation, shudder and shudder. Yes. Now, I'm usually a double D man if you catch my drift. Hell yeah, my guy. But in this case, I'm a double T man. Hey, man, I wouldn't kick double T's out of bed. Okay.

That woman's got a real bad back. What would be the double T in bed? I don't know. Sounds like a set of testicles, double T's. You got double T's? So four? Oh, wait, double Oh, right.

Maybe it would be four. It would be four, yeah. T squared. T squared. But yeah. Fudrupal Hitler. That's that, what did you say? Padruple Hitler?

He had one ball. I forgot this about Hitler. Wow. That's the one thing I know about Hitler. He had just one nut. He was a painter. Hitler was a painter. We don't talk about that enough.

We don't talk about he was a painter. Yeah. Roald actually was, it's, because Roald Dahl who created, you know, obviously Charlie and the chocolate factory, which leads to Willie Wonka in the chocolate factory, which ultimately leads to the Tootsam Chocolon Emporium and Savory Fitch's Kitchen, which we're going to talk about in a second. He ties into Hitler somehow? Well, no, Roldal was, like, famously an anti-Semite.

And it's a sort of thing of, like, you read some of his defenses and he's just like, well, it was actually anti-Zionist and anti-Israel, and you're like, and usually want to give, like, a lot of times, like, okay, let me give the person the benefit of the doubt here, but then you read, and he has a quote where he's basically like, look, Hitler had his reasons like he's just he's like really overtly anti-semitic with some of his sentiment so yeah he did love torturing children in a lot of his books it seems yeah and i think there's some problematic passages in some of his books but you know whatever i hope hitler is down in hell with two balls now and it's weird for him

his pants don't fit by you know he was yeah that's what he deserves to be slightly uncomfortable an ironic punishment for one of history's greatest monsters a second ball a second ball joy your ill-fitting underwear Adolf I was used to one But yeah Shudder That's what I like

Shudder's great Very cool Yeah Yeah yeah But you like Shutter The Streaming service I do like Shutter The Stramers

You watch anything Notable on Shutter in recent years All the time I mean every Holiday I'll be I mean Whatever the new VHS is

That's now become VHS Halloween And I watch that one I just watch a great one This Indonesian Folkhor movie called Impedagore Which is a terrible

title Because I think the original title It's like Woman from the Damed Swamp or something which is a better cooler title i saw this on there i did not i haven't watched in pedigore it's pretty gnarly yeah we were saying that like demons is on there we had this we had a little bit

demons too we had a little bit of a shutter talk at a yeah chocolate emporium um uh the scarier than anything shutter could come up with is the chocolate and pouring we'll get into it where where is where is what is your general chocolate fandom um i have uh gyridelli like individually wrapped in my cabinet, because I always want, like, a dessert, but it helps me to not, like, eat a bunch of ice cream if I just have a piece of, one small piece of sweet. Just a little nibble. Just I love a dark chocolate. The darker, the better.

Yeah, I love a dark chocolate, too. Do you have a... On the scale of Augustus Glump to Muttley, the dog, where would you say... Famously hates chocolate. Yeah, yeah. Well, dogs, old dogs hate chocolate. Right. I was just trying to think of a famous dog.

And Scooby-Doo eats a lot of stuff, so I figured not to go with Scooby. Yeah, Mutley was a good pull. Yeah, yeah, Mutley was good. Where would you put yourself in the Augustus to Mutley? Probably in the middle. Right in the middle. I like chocolate, but I'm not like... Why the hell did you want to do this place?

Because it's themed. I don't know. It's very themed. What is it? So is ice cream at the top of your dessert hierarchy? Yes, it is for me. Yeah, I can't keep it in the house because I'll just eat it. Yeah, that's why I made that decision, too.

I used to have a... I used to keep Tillamook in the house like a fool. Oh, man. Tillamook's good stuff. Timok is fantastic. What flavor ice cream you go on with? I like the chocolate peanut butter. Oh, so we'll go with a chocolatey ice cream.

Oh, yeah. I'm not anti-chocolat. I'm just not like, you know, I've got to have a box of chocolate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like a Seas. I like Seas candy. Scotch Molo. Okay.

They just came out with a coffee-flavored Scotch Molo. That's fun. It seems like you like sweets, but not particularly chocolate itself. I mean, I know, no, now that we think. My favorite cake is like a yellow cake with fudge. fredge frosting. I love that. And also I have never had a good version of that in like 10 years.

Like they don't do it and like you have to make it at home. Like I don't think you get it in a bakery or like a nice. I think it's considered like lowbrow or something. Here's my thing. I love yellow cake and you very rarely get it's like you get vanilla cake. Or they're like crippling down. It's quadruple chocolate explosion fever. Yeah.

And I don't need that. I don't need that. I'll eat that. So maybe I do. Maybe I'm a seven. Maybe I'm closer to Augustus Gloop than I like to admit. I'm a glump of myself. I,

I, I, I, uh, I, I, uh, I, I, I, uh, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm team gloom. I will, I would, did you mean clump? Okay. Uh, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a clump, whigs.

Uh, look, I wouldn't turn down an invitation to the table. I have fun. No, they're having fun there. And I would, and when someone said somebody calling exorcist, I would laugh at that moment. Uh, I would have, having a blast. Dayus, have you ever seen the nutty professor or the clumps? Yeah. What's the clump?

You don't know what a clump is. I've seen the nutty professor. The clumps are just the nutty professor's family. Family. Yeah, yeah. Did you see the second one or no? No. Okay.

No. I think you would love it. I think I would too. You probably would. The clumps are a lot of fun. You got a lot on your list, so don't worry about it. And that Laker sweatshirt sucks. I told you before then.

reporting. It's funny because you and Amelia sweatshirts are matching. They are very close. You're wrapping Casabonita. Yeah, you're wearing your Casa Bonita sweatshirt. You told you gave Amelia shit for her, the Lakers sweatshirt in advance.

And then you called her, are you called him a picket line crosser? Because of the Casabinita labor dispute. I went before that happened. And I, whatever, I support the workers of California. The cliff divers and the performers of Casabinita. I support them. but I also do love

Drey Matt and they'll do the right thing I'm sure I'm sure they'll do the right thing I think it might have been settled at this point but I'm not sure I'd maybe you can look into it yeah you're a you're a we were talking a little bit at the at the restaurant you're an air friar enthusiast yes I love my air friar when did you get into your air

what do I get into it like a year ago like a year ago yeah it's been great what do what what bad boy you got yeah what you're eating up in there oh um you guys me why I think it's a quezon art a quezine art okay oh yeah it's not the bucket kind. It's more like toaster oven. Got it. I got a toaster. I got the ninja flip. That's the one I have.

And don't they love to? They do. They do. They just do love to flip. You can make chicken thighs in there. Okay. Right from the freezer. Wow. And they're still juicy. Yeah. My favorite thing to do, and I got to get back on it, because I got a Zosierushi, which is the rice

maker. So I can make myself some rice and it makes a really great rice. And then I get the Trader Joe. those, like, marinated chicken, put that in the air fryer. Oh, I'll try that. You're in business.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do chicken thighs. I really opened up the frozen aisle, having an air fry. Right. Just being, like, what's new? But then, like,

everything's, like, super pro- I bought chicken fingers, thinking like, oh, this will be fun, but they just tasted so unnatural processed, not, like, real food. Were these from Trader Joe's as well? No, this is Tyson.

The Tyson, yeah. Tyson's got some pretty gnarly. Bad product. But now I just buy, like, wings. And sometimes I'm, like, not super hungry. I just want, like,

You can throw four wings. You can make four wings. You have that option. I don't have to have eight. That's true. Yeah, I do like that. You can make the number of wings you'd like. Yeah. That is a nice, that's a great thing about the air fryer. You can do, like, I do the butcher box, chicken nuggets, and they're pretty good. And I know that we do it have for that, but they are, they're pretty damn good if you want to try the butcher box chicken nuggets. Give me a code. Code dough. Oh, dough boys. Thank you, Emma. I'll never remember that. I wonder if we'll get a message to, like, not advertise during our show or something from them. I don't think the advertiser's mind, if you're tossing them as an extra free promo. Don't you dare say our name. But, yeah, the frozen stuff. Breheets pizza? Yeah. You can't make a frozen pizza in it.

At least mine doesn't make it well, but you can reheat it. Like, it's like it's reborn. You just put a slice in there? What do you do? Yeah, well, it's like a toaster. It's not a toaster. It's a little rack. Got it.

I got it, got it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, he did this motion. I was expecting, I was thinking of like a deep fryer, like it's top loading, but it's more front loading. It's more front loading. It's a freight loader. Wow. Just remember Green Day's drummer.

What else did I do? A lot of chicken. Yeah, sure. Yeah. I was a microwave pizza guy for a very long time. And when you put it in the oven, I was like, this isn't the same thing. But the air fryer did kind of change me over to air fry. the pizza. I always had an issue with it drying out too much. And then the microwave almost

like kind of like maybe too much makes it a little moist. Yeah, a little limp. But I like was still like it. But now the air fryer is the way to do it. There's a pizza setting. You just put it on that. And it's good to go. Our microwave broke at our apartment. And it's one of those things where it's like, it's like built in. And so it's it's something that we'd have to like, just anytime we contact our landlord, who's fine. But they're always like, well, you just take care of it and we'll reimburse you. So I'm just like, then this is going to be a thing I'm going to have to do. And I just don't.

So we just haven't had to fix for like a couple weeks. And it's crazy how quickly we adjusted just not having a microwave. It's like pretty easy to just not use a microwave. I only have counter space for one appliance. So I had to pick an appliance. And at first it was a coffee maker. Okay. But then I was like, no more of that.

Then I got the air fryer. Are you off coffee? No. Okay. I just don't make it at home. But I had to choose. Wow. And I haven't had a microwave now in like four years.

Yeah. And it's fine. Yeah, you don't really need one. Air fryer is one of the things I use the most in my home. It's not, I thought, I was afraid it was going to be like an instant pot situation. Right. And I was like, oh, you got to have an instant pot. Now everyone has it collecting dust.

Yeah, I got, you know what? I got the instapot and I never even, I never even did one thing in the instapot. I got some good, it was a gift. I got some good use out of the instant pot for a bit. But it's enough of a hassle and the recipes are bespoke enough where I just kind of fell out of usage. It fell out of usage and then a certain point it, it, like, moved. from being on, like a fixture of the countertop to being under in a cabinet.

So now it's just like, yeah, I haven't used in like a year plus. You know what? I'm going to take out the Instapot. I'm going to try it. Yeah, it's the season. Yeah, why not? Make a chili or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You get bags, right? You got just buy bags for the Instapot, right? Isn't that we do? No, that's suede. Necessarily. You talk about suveed when you, like, put it in the hot water. I think you can suveed in the instant pot. Okay.

Yeah. You can buy put bags in there. Yeah, I'll put a bag in there. Just throw some bags in there. Yeah, see what happens. It's a bag soup. Yeah. Soup, soup versus stew.

What would you rather have? A bag stew or bag soup? Let us know in the comments, hashtag bag soup or hashtag bag stew. Log on to X, the everything app. That's right. And tweet at us, or X at us, what you think. Or log on to Blue Sky and Sky at us. Yeah.

You say Blue Sky, I say X app. What are your favorite fast food chains? What a pivot? Chipotle. Oh, I go like once a week. We were talking about this. You're still on the Chipotle train.

I'm completely falling off of Chipotle. What's your good? What do you think of that new carneasada? Don't bother. I get the same thing every time. Yeah. I get a chicken burrito, white rice. I love this.

Chicken and then sour cream and cheese. Very simple. You know what? My order is very close to the same thing for burrito. White rice, chicken, sour cream, cheese, but I will throw the pico de gallo in there just to give it some tomato. And then... Fair enough. You're going bean free. Oh, no.

I'm sorry. I do get beans. Okay. You're bean free. Yes. No more beans for me. Yeah. Right.

We talked about this a little bit. We know why. We talked about this a little bit. Yes. And if it's a thing you're okay getting into, you're... Sure. Your diet has become fairly restrictive because of a procedure you had. Yeah, I lost 85% of my colon a year ago, over a year ago.

Yeah, yeah. That's partly why this episode, which is long gestating, ended up being delayed because, you know. I was recovering from all right. Sorry, I couldn't do a podcast. My body was healing, Nick. I'm sorry. Why are you going to bring up long gestating in front of them? It's kind of rude after.

Yeah, I'll never have a baby. It's so insensitive We were very worried for you there for a moment It was very scary It was pretty crazy It was very scary Yeah, yeah I spent a lot of time in the hospital

I spent two weeks with no food or water That was crazy Which was crazy But I did make a list of everything I wanted to drink Because I just was craving beverages We were taking all It was very scary We were we text about it

And I believe we supported you You ended yes yes yes And if not we were supporting you in thought Thank you. I'll take it. No, it was one of those things where it was like a, I remember when the, when the crowdfunding thing went up and it was just kind of like a, it felt very abrupt. Like this was a thing that kind of happened to you somewhat as an emergency. Yeah, yeah. It all happened very sudden.

Wow. It was, I got a bacterial infection and then it led to a condition called toxic megacolon. Oh my God. Which is the real, which when the guy said it to us, we're like, no. What is the real name? Come on. What's that really cold? But, yeah, it just means your colon is, like, diseased and swelling.

And then four days in the hospital, we had to cut it out. Wow. And then I spent two and a half more weeks in the hospital recovering from that. And that's when I didn't have any food or water. They said I could have, like, ice chips. Okay. But I was like, no, that's worse, like the teas. Because I wasn't allowed to swallow them.

Oh, wow. I could, like, suck on ice chips, but then I had to spit them out. That's horrible. I'm like, this is worse than just denying myself entirely. You could, were they just giving fluids? I just IV. Jesus. That was the only way you were getting anything in your body was the IV.

Yeah, yeah. That's wild. It was crazy. Your boy should have come in there and snuck some, you know, mariner or gravy in your IV for you. Thank you. Helps you out a little bit. I need some ragu. Oh, that tastes so good.

Go through the arm. Yeah, I went in. I came out with, like, a new hole. I had a new, uh, had an ophemy after that for seven months. That's, which was crazy. Yeah. So I didn't, like, fart for like, seven months. That's crazy.

The thought hole was shut. down there's some plus sides here there was some plus but every now and then you would because your body still creates mucus oh my god so every now and they're like oh it's been a month i i think i have to go to the bathroom and like you're just like unfamiliar with that sensation after a while that is wild that was uh crazy i did that uh i did a water fast for all for four days i did it for a while because i got to i got to 90 hours didn't i yeah yeah yeah i got to i got to 90 hours that's when you're just drinking water just drinking water yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, 2448.

Oh, yeah, because I think I got to 96 hours, didn't I? Or I got right over there. Yeah, yeah. And then, and also, like, you're not really going to the bathroom then. You know what I mean? Like, you're just drinking water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. After the first day or whatever.

And that was weird just for a day or two. So I couldn't imagine what it was like. Yeah, seven months. Yeah, that's crazy. And at what point do you say, are you like, are you eating solid food again? It was like pretty quickly, like a month afterwards. Yeah, got it. So your diet is starting to normalize at this point, but there are a lot of restrictions that have maintained to stay.

Anything high fibrous I can't have because essentially your colon breaks all that down and I don't have that. So I just can't have anything really high fibrous. Like no raw vegetables, no beans, no nuts or seeds, essentially. But like I can eat it. It's not going to like kill me. It's just going to be uncomfortable. Like I tried four peanut M&Ms a few months ago. Let me just see.

I've recovered now. But it's like, nope, you could just feel it moving through. I think you said that you could, yeah, feel it moving through your body. I could feel it. I was like, this doesn't feel it. And who wants to spend all that time really chewing a peanut M&M? They're meant to be consumed mindlessly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't want to be mindful with M&M. Chewing every bit of it. Yeah. Well, this guy's got a nod of allergy, so he's lost out on a peanut Eminem suit. Yeah, I developed peanut allergy in middle age. Oh, no. So no peanut butter. No peanut butter, yeah.

Dumber. I know. I used to love peanut butter, especially peanut butter desserts. And a lot of Thai food, too. Yeah, a lot of Thai food, a lot of Vietnamese food has peanut sauces. So you just kind of avoid it. But it's not everything. There's just like, it's discontingent.

The only thing I really miss is like tostadas, like salads, like a salad for lunch. Is that, is that, is it just, a Tostata salad? Yeah. Like a cheese, like a, a. The least healthy version of salad. Yeah, yeah. Where you could eat the bowl. Right, right, right.

I guess I could just order the bowl. You could just eat the bowl. And sour cream or whatever. You could do that. And maybe would scratch an itch or something. Honestly, you can just get nachos. It's halfway there. It's true.

But I do miss a lunchtime salad. Yeah. You could just like lettuce and like stuff like that is just, yeah, just like, you know. That is that. But I'll, it's fine. Yeah, I mean, look, there's stuff that you could lose that would be, can you eat pizza? I can eat pizza. I can have popcorn.

Okay. It was just crazy when I had the ostomy bag to like, finally, like, you literally are dealing with your shit. Like, in such a tactile way of like, oh, eating this effect. me this way. Like, I never was more aware. You just become very aware of your body and how it works. That's wild. And just like, oh, it made you more proactive and like learning to eat better. Yeah, because I mean, like, I remember when I was a kid, I had no connection between what I put into my body and what came out of it. I just like did not even process. Yeah. There was like, like, oh, if I have like a, you know, I heat up a can of chili and then

I drink a glass of chocolate milk, I might have a weird shit afterwards. Like I was not, exactly. Yeah. Like, I was just not even thinking about that. And there's adult. you become a lot more aware of the connection. But, yes, you have like, there's like, there's almost like a level of intimacy with your, your BMs, you know what I mean? Yeah. You're literally like holding them, right? Yeah.

Wow. I can't get over a bowl of chili and chocolate milk. It's fucking, even as a child, I think you maybe should have got some of that. I didn't understand it. It would be funny, like hearing, because the ostomies, the stoma, that's like the external butt hole, essentially. You, it would fart. So you would hear, you would hear a fart coming from right here.

You would have a chest farce. And like, but you also don't know it's coming because there's no like nerve endings really. There's not like a butt fart. This is great content, right? No, I love it. Like a butt. So you wouldn't, this is fascinating. I would just be in like a movie theater and just here, but it's coming from here.

So it's just really strange. Is there a smell? I have to ask. No, it's all in a bag. It's on a bag. It's on a bag. Okay, got it. But would it, if it wasn't in the bag, would it have, would it smell?

Yes, because whenever I emptied the bag, it's the most noxious smell. Oh, my God. And now when I fart, ooh, that's a special stink. It's like a more evil. It's the only thing I can describe it. It's something just like, noxious. It's the only word I can think of, like, ooh, those are some rank farts I have now. Because I appreciate your col.

I think it's because I have more electrolytes. Okay. Because the colon is also how you say. It helps hydrate you. Okay. So that's, but now I don't have that, so I'm losing more electrolytes. So can you eat like a normal amount of food that you're just restricted in what you can eat? And you have like, are there supplements that you take?

I take every morning, half an hour before breakfast, I take five metamusol, like capsules and an emotium. Then for lunch, I have an emodium. And then for dinner, I have five more metamusel fiber tablets and another emodium. What is it? What is the difference between taking three emotiums a day? What is the difference between taking? consuming in like the dietary fiber and tablet form versus consuming it as food. You just don't have it.

Like, it doesn't have to be processed. Yeah. I think so. And I also just like the pills because who doesn't like pills? Yeah, sure. Enceladimodium basically is helping, slows everything down. Yeah, wow. I did have my doctor said I had to get a, also I only ever had one colonoscopy in my life.

And now I never need another one. Wow. Okay. But I have an endoscopy, I think is the word. And I had that last time and not to brag. going to go down your throat? No, no, no. That's up, but not as deep and you don't get put out for it.

Oh, okay. But my doctor said, like, are you having solid bowel movements? I was like, yeah, he's like, huh. I was like, way to go me. Yeah, I guess he was surprised. Yeah, I would like him not to be as surprised by that. It's like, you should be having constant diarrhea. Why aren't you?

I don't know. I haven't a lot of rice, I guess. So three emotiums a day. Yeah, yeah, and it barely works. That's wild. If I took three emotiums at, one day I maybe would explode. It used to, like, really, I used to take a modemps and it would like, well, I'm, you're a little

too stopped up. Oh, 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing to me. That's wild. Do you have, is there any food in particular you miss that you really still have a hankering for? I miss, like, a sesame bagel. Sesame bagel short.

And it's just no seeds. And you mentioned the taco salad earlier, obviously. Yeah. Mendocino Farms had a really good impossible taco salad. Oh, yeah. They've taken that off the menu, though. It's off the menu. I hope in my honor. I think it was.

I can't have it. No one can. I think that's fair. No, that salad was clutch. I was really bummed. It was like the only good thing, right? Do you think they got rid of just because impossible burgers are expensive? It could be, but they also, they changed their minute.

They had the Save Drake's Farm salad, which is a staple. That one's gone, too. They've just made some. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. Some of the tweaks they're doing to their menu are just. Though your sandwiches back. I know.

I had it three times already. Did you really? That's awesome. It just came back. Which sandwich is that? November to remember. Oh, got it. It's like a Thanksgiving sandwich?

Yeah, it's like turkey, cranberry bread, cranberry sauce, stuffing. It's the best sandwich ever, and every November I make sure to get as many as I can. Have you had the Trader Joe's? Like, they have a wrap that's like a Thanksgiving wrap that has like a gravy dipping sauce. And it has like turkey, cranberry and stuffing in the wrap. Wow. Thanksgiving wrap. It's Thanksgiving wrap.

Yeah. Come on. Gobble, gobble, look at me. Oh, fuck this. I'm not going to do it. I can't do it. I would like to eat turkey. Now I'm sleepy.

Now I'm sleepy. Turkey rap. It's a turkey wrap. Gapagipagoo, go. Don't look embarrassed for me. Emma was doing the right thing laughing. You were looking embarrassed for me. Also, by the way, you said sauce like the most New York person I've ever heard.

hurt in my life with a cranberry sauce. We'll try another Thanksgiving wrap in a future episode. Wait, when does this episode air? We don't know. It's coming out at some point. December 11th. Might be December. It's still 15th.

Yeah, who knows? We'll figure it. Turkey for Christmas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've timed stamped when this has been recorded. This is in the aftermath of Running Man opening second in the box office. The world has changed. December 11. and Edgar Wright version reality.

December limit is still a time to talk about Thanksgiving. It's like, remember Thanksgiving? It might not come out December 11th. So don't get too married to that. We don't know. It could be January. We'll see. We'll figure it out.

It's still close enough to Thanksgiving. Yes, yeah. Yeah. Thanksgiving is in recent memory. Yes. And the time you talk about Thanksgiving, leading up to it, and then for a week or so afterward. Where do you stand in Thanksgiving?

It's great. Do you have a favorite dish? I don't really like Thanksgiving food that much. Oh, interesting. Is there anything you can't eat, now because of what's happened with Thanksgiving for Thanksgiving dinner. Well, my mom used, at this one time, one year, my mom made like this corn casserole like 20 years ago. And I said, hey, this is pretty good.

And then every year after that, Mark, I made your corn casserole. I was like, it's fine. But now you can't have it. Yeah. So I'm free. How about, can you do the green bean cassero with the onions on top? No, I would never green beans. Are you trying to kill me?

Oh, my God. Sorry. No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm not. I'm not trying to kill you, to be clear. I mean, I also could eat it. It would just be, I would have more urgency. Right.

I'm like, I got to go. I just had green beans. Which could be a good way to get out of Thanksgiving. I don't know how, I don't know how things go with Mike at Thanksgiving. On a bad date. Oh, the classic Thanksgiving date. He just got Brussels. This isn't going well.

Isn't like Rocky take Adrian out on a date on Thanksgiving or something like that? It's some insane thing in that movie. He probably doesn't know how time works. He's not aware of holidays. But do you have a, like, like, something like a, like a tuber, like we're talking like a mashed potato. You can have that? Oh, yeah, yeah, that's fine. So like, like a starchy vegetable is not a problem.

Starchy vegetable is great. Anything that's got, that's, it's just anything that's too heavy in fiber. Yeah. And also like things with like skin, like tomatoes, like the skin of the tomato is bad, that kind of stuff. Are there any fruits that are okay? Bananas. Oh, banana's and not potatoes. Bananas are like, oh.

Banana is the miracle fruit. I feel like, uh, it's just so good. Proof of creation. that's right yeah i've seen that video it's a it's i think it's like a kirk cameron thing you've talked about how like the banana is so perfect that it shows that the god's divine plan is behind you know earth's bounty all right i don't know that pretty persuasive

we go kirk uh enjoy your subway birthday uh i uh just uh someone told me i should eat a banana every day i don't but i should eat a banana every who curious george uh a nurse told me this one time but i'm curious george probably would tell me not to He was trying to hoard the bananas itself. Was it Nurse Gru? It was Nurse Gru. I do come close to eating a banana every day at a banana today.

Well, I make it smooth. That's my bread. That's how I get my fruit and vegetable. I make a smoothie in the morning. But I'm also like fine having the same thing literally every day. It's just banana bear like blueberries, avocado. Yeah. I was a smoothie guy for a while.

I kind of want to go back. It's fine. I want to get myself a nice blender, but. I'm like you though. I'm enough of a creature. habit where like if I get locked into like this will be my breakfast, then that would just be my breakfast for like a year. Yeah. And then I'll finally, I'll just change it up. I'll switch to something else arbitrarily and then I'll just do that for like indefinitely. Because I like not having to think

about it. Right, right, right. Or I know exactly what groceries I need to buy. Yeah, I'm out of mangoes. I need to get more mangoes. Oh, man mangoes are good. Here's what I like, a strawberry banana Greek yogurt smoothie. That's fun. That sounds nice. I would have that every single day if I could. And I could, but I don't. I could do it. It just seems like too much work. Yeah. What do What is your blender maintenance there? Are you hand washing that every day? Yeah. Okay.

That sucks. What's the alternative? No, I'm just asking. Oh, yeah. Some people not watch it every day? And you'd have to if you're having daily smoothies. I'm having a day. Are there dishwasher safe blenders or no?

I think you can get ones where you can put certain components in the dishwasher. Yeah, there's like metal. Right. But also, but I'm using it every day. Yeah. Are you, if you're using it every day, how often you're running the dishwasher. We're not running the dishwasher every day, you know. Maybe if you're like a family of five or something like that.

Must be nice. I don't have a dishwasher, Mitch. I'll put it on in the small. There's a small cycle. There's a short cycle you can put it on. There is that you could put a short cycle on. I don't waste water. I love water.

Yeah. I've learned from James Cameron not to conserve water and be good with water. I'm not waste. I'll put it on the short cycle. You ever use that short cycle to clean your hog? Yes. I put my hog in the dishwasher. Sure.

Up right on. C and 30. Probably the most action that thing's getting in a while. Not wrong. Let's just say that the Lexapro has been, I thought that the, well, Butron would turn me into some sort of awesome powers character, but instead, not much going on.

So they pit those drugs against each other sometimes. They're like, this one will cancel. this out, but then also this might happen. Well, it's good when you told me that it can affect you for the rest of your life, and then I went down that, uh, I went down that little, uh, whatever hole. Yeah, there are people who get, who get SSRI induced, like, a permanent lowering in, sex drive that just, like, never comes back even when they're off the drugs. What happens if you're like, take a Viagra or something? I think you can get a boner, but you're maybe not, like, what's the point of this? What I'm going to do with this thing?

Hang a towel, I guess. Yeah. Dry your socks, I guess. Show off. I don't know. There you go. Dry a towel is maybe, you know. Dry a baby's talk. Dry a shoelace. Yeah. My shoelaces are always wet.

Wait a minute. But yeah, no, I hope I don't have that, that, who knows? I'm off of it now. I'm off of Alexa. You're completely off of it. I'm off of it. Wow. This is the second day I've been off of it.

How it works out for you. But no drive yet. But also wine was very low to begin with. So if it's gone, oh, well, you know. What do you need that for? Yeah, how's this serving me? Yeah, I'm going to just make my children like Elon Musk anyways. It's just that you recruit some women to be in a paid harem?

Yeah, why not? There you go. Yeah, that's the way to do it. But, yeah, it is, there are some side effects that I wish you had told me earlier about. I'm not your doctor? What are you talking about? Well, you were happy to bring it up that I, and then you got in my head and now I think it's a part. Sorry.

Didn't you think that... Prescribe this, do you? This is off top. But that new Superman movie mentioned harems a lot. They did, yeah, they did. It was really weird. They leaned in the hair... Here was a thing.

I think there should have been a joke in there. There should have been like one when they're going through all the women or like all the people who are giving their testimonials about like Superman as a harem. It's disgusting. There should have been one with like,

I'll be in your harems Superman. Yeah, I'm sure like a few boys would too. Yeah, should that be fun. Come on. 100%. Yeah. We needed more people being horny for super. Someone should have been horny for.

They're all horny for Jimmy Olson instead. They were all very horny. That was fun, I did like that. Sure, that's fun, but you ever want to see him be, but come on, they want him to be horny for Superman. Yeah, someone should have been horny for Superman. Someone who wasn't sitting in the theater. You saw it at the Tiki Theater.

All right. All splash zone. Did you like the Superman? I liked it. That was fun. Yeah, it's a good time. Well, you know what? To bring it, to bring this back into where we're,

talking about today. I went to the theater right after we, uh, after we had our lunch. You saw Predator Badlands? I saw Predator Badlands. The better, we said this, there's a, there is a Bruce Springsteen movie out and Predator Badlands has the better Bruce Springsteen

title. Wow. Deliver me from nowhere is not as good of a, it should be like born to run or something. It's like Springsteen deliver me from like it's a franchise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, I they should have just gone born to run or born in the USA or whatever. The title is kind of one of those, like a camel is a horse designed by committee.

It feels like there are too many people who are like, like, well, deliver us from nowhere. People throw Springsteen in there, you know what I mean? Like, like it just, it got tweaked to hell. But yeah, something like Born to Run is like, why overthinking? How about Springsteen born again? Because it's born to run and, you know what I said? It sounds like he found Christ. Yeah.

I guess that's-I don't think he has. I don't think he has either, yeah. Hearing those lyrics. So maybe we will get, maybe we'll get one at some point. Well, maybe we'll get a Springsteen born again at some point. point where you. I hope so. But Badlands would have been like a good title. Sure. I think better than deliver me from nowhere. Yeah. I, you know what? I had a fun time with Gregor Badlands. I think you were, I think you said to me before I went, it's like a very video game movie. It's like a plot of like any open world video game. It literally felt like I was watching a video game on screen. It's like a Metrovania. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was, you know, which is. El Fannie, though. She's great. I told you my story of how I waved to El Fanning and thought she was a bartender from La Poubel

and she was El Fanning. But she's great, she's great in it. She does, she's got double duty in it too. I like flora and fauna. Yes, yeah, yeah. Wait, what? Flora and fauna. Like the plants and the animals?

Oh, yeah, well, actual. I thought those were the characters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's some fun, there's a lot of fun alien biomes. It was like that show. Did you see Scavenger's rain? I love scavenger. It's very, kind of that.

Yeah. scavengers rain I like wasn't even all that interest in the plot as it progressed I was just sort of like I just like seeing all the visual invention as the kids are saying it's the vibes yeah great five yeah did you see scavengers rain no great great great creatures great great what is it's just a sci-fi movie it's an animated show that I think was originally on HBO yeah but you like it's worth watching a very very very yeah it's it's very eight episodes yeah it's it's very digestible then they did another one those same common side effects I haven't seen that pretty funny oh yeah our friend of the pod Dave King is the voice in common type of facts. Yeah. Wow. I haven't checked it out yet. I got to watch it too. I went over there after the chocolate emporium.

Yeah. And it was compared to the chocolate emporium, it was more of a highlight, I got to say, besides being with good friends. Did you get any sort of concession? Because you're all filled up with some chocolate emporium and savory. It hurts me to not get anything when I'm at the theater. Not even a big soda. Not even a big soda.

I just had had a refill of, remember we did Coke Zero's right towards the end there. And I had like chugged a big Coke Zero on the way out. And I was like, I don't need, I don't need to have some. I bring a bottom refillable bottle water. Yeah, I got to sip something. Like, because you went and dry and you stayed dry and you stayed dry the whole time. That's right. Did you have to, did you take urine break?

No, that's the plus side. There's no, no, no, I did not piss throughout Brenner's Badland. Pre-show P, and then you were good to go. I don't even think I did a pre-show P. How did you possibly get, what happened? What happened? Look at this, Bragert. I don't know, dry it up in there somewhere.

I'm a dehydrated man. It's a desert in there, so probably just, you know, probably just dry. But now you talking about piss makes me kind of half to piss. So I don't, I'm not going to, I don't. Do you want to take a piss break? No, no, no, no, no. We can take it. We do a bathroom breakdown.

I'm pretty good. I drink like a, I drink like a liter of water before I go to bed and I wake up eight hours later. Really? Wait, really? How close to bedtime? Right before I fall asleep. You're drinking a little. of water and then you're your head is in the pillow.

Do you, like, you, do you piss before you go to bed? No. Are you pissing the bed? Are you pissing the bed? My bed is super yellow and stinks like piss. So I wonder. No, no, not, I'm not pissing the bed. Because if I did, the last time I almost pissed the, what's that?

Was that sweatshirt white? This is a white catseminita sweatshirt. The last time I almost pissed the bed was in Micas and all those guys came out and we were drinking, we drank so much, like, sure, back to Quincy Day's drinking and I woke up, I, like, woke up, I think I was having a horny dream. And then I woke up and I was like, I'm pissing. And I ran to the bathroom and I pissed.

But when I was, oh, sorry, God. No, that was, that was, that was like, you were having a horny dream and then you started pissing. What happened? My dreams don't mean piss, you know that. Yeah, yeah. I think in my dream, I was like, this is horny. And then I was like, this feels good.

But it was like, I. I started to dribble out because I had to piss. And so like a... The sensation was like something, some sort of substance was creeping out of your hog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think of my brain is like... I thought it was a wet dream, but it was...

Okay, here we go. This has never happened to you before. I have a similar story. Okay. I think I've shared the story of the podcast. I mean, I know the, the voluminous... Well, that was in a way, yeah, I did have one wet dream and where I did have a voluminous

amount of ejaculate. Wasn't it like a band playing or something? That was when, yeah. So I had the first time I ever had a wet dream, I was sitting, it was just like I was sitting on a park bench and there was a sousaphone player just going, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

And I was just watching this guy. And then it just busted and it woke up. Wow. You like love the music man? I don't know. I don't know what the association is. Was there like a hawk girl that the sousaphone in band or something?

I mean, it must have been some sort of music crush or something like that, but it was not who that was playing the sousaphone. Was it the rhythm of your, like, blood flow or something? It might have been that, yeah, I don't know. I don't know exactly what was going on. But sometimes I think that there is a tease between you're having a wet dream

or a wet band. You know what I mean? I think that there is a... Sure, we're having a warm sensation either way. Yeah, yeah, like, and your body needs to pee. You know what I mean? Like, I think that that does happen? But I wonder, does anyone ever had the opposite

where they actually, like, have a wet dream, but they dream like, oh, no, I'm pissing. Oh, that's a nightmare. A true nightmare. Pretty. Then you're not, you're not having fun in that, in that scenario. Well, no, the story I was going to tell was not the Seuss of one story. The story I was going to tell was analogous to that.

But that was one where, like, I woke up, like, I was sleeping in, I was home from college. I was, like, sleeping in a bed at home. And I was like, I woke up and I just had like a fully turgid, like, you know, erection. And I was like, I was like, I was like, but sleepy in the morning. And I was like, oh, God. Yeah. And then I went back to. sleep and then I woke up and a boner was gone and my underwear was wet and I was like

oh no I had a wet dream oh this is so embarrassing and I like kind of like covered myself up and walked over to the bathroom and I took my underwear off and I'd shit my pants it's much worse yeah way worse I didn't know that until you stood up no I didn't yeah I just felt like a general like I was groggy and I felt like a a general just sort of like moist sensation. Also you didn't also I was going to say like you didn't have like there was no see for me

look this is dirty talk this is for the boys. Welcome to the dirty talk. When anytime I've ever had a nocturnal omission yes it's I always am waking like oh like waking up you know what I'm saying like you're waking up in the midst of it like because it's an intense sensation

and so you're like waking up as that's happening So you didn't experience any of that, of course. No, no, no. I just woke up in the aftermath. I thought that, like, put two and two together. I was like, well, boners gone, wet pants. I know what happened here. Shit in the bed.

I came again. There's a curd in the bowl. That means I organ. I just do everything all at once. That's what that movie should do. Jesus Christ. How old were you when this happened? Probably like 18.

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and Savory Feast Kitchen, first open in 2016 at Universal CityWalk, Orlando. It has since expanded to Universal CityWalk's Hollywood and Beijing. There's a Chinese outlet. Okay. It was the subject of a $40 million lawsuit over intellectual property theft. I'm going to read a lengthy excerpt from an August 22nd, 2016 piece on courthouse news about this. Quote, in a lawsuit filed in the Orange County, Florida Circuit Court, Adam Limley claims he was working on a business concept he called 1-800 Santa Claus in 2003 when he asked his nine-year-old daughter Lindsay to draw a map of the North Pole.

He says he thought his daughter's vision of the North Pole would better connect with young children than one drafted by an adult. But as he recounts in the August 18th complaint, there was one feature of Lindsay's drawing that particularly caught his attention, a small building she called the Chocolate Factory. Limley questioned his daughter about what the building and name represented and she advised him that, quote, this is where the elves eat, end quote. Lindsay then explained her concept to her father, which involved an elaborate interactive culinary and confectionary vision, which involved an experience for visitors combining all of the five human senses, the complaint says. Limley says he would, he immediately realized his young daughter had a vision with unlimited global potential, mass appeal, and tremendous opportunity for exponential growth and scalability.

He says he pitched the idea to Universal in 2008, and the entertainment conglomerate expressed great interest in the concept. Then in 2012, NBC Universal announced the planned opening of the Toothsome Chocolate Factory and Savory Feast Emporium, which Limley claims incorporated many of the ideas and features he had shared during his pitch. Limley, meanwhile, claims he is the victim of the defendant's brazen theft and misappropriation of his entire business plan, creative concept, and national rollout development and marketing plan.

The lawsuit was ultimately ruled in Universal's favor. But, yeah, this guy claims that from a child's drawing of the North Pole, he was inspired to create the toothsome chocolate emporium concept and then that was stolen from him by Universal. Which he is just stealing Willy Wonka, but he is not acknowledged Willie Wonka at any point. He's

almost like, seemed to seem to be crediting his daughter with inventing a chocolate factory concept which he never heard of previously. Like, wait, what did you draw a chocolate factory? It's like, what the fuck are you talking about? What madness is this? Yes, yeah. I suppose chocolate

has to be made somewhere. Also, you can pitch restaurants? I guess. Why are we pitching restaurants? We should be pitching restaurants. Amityville Cafe. Oh my God, that'd be fun. Oh, I meant Amity from Jaws. They both work. They both work. Both of them would be great.

I mean, that's what you know, I mean, Universal's should have Amityville Cafe. Well, I was also watching Amazon Prime as a live channel that's just murder she wrote. So of course I was watching that. I love it. Why not a Cabot Cove? That's a Universal property. I love it. The teens would love a Cabot Cove. Oh, Cafe. I was going to say Burger She Wrote. Burger She wrote.

Which is, they should put a Burger She wrote in Universal. Yeah, why not? They absolutely should. I never had Burger She wrote, but I hear it's very good. Wait, you didn't know this? Maybe I did, but I just subconsciously... There's a burger... There's a...

Well, I hope you don't get sued. It's a Burger She... For saying it on the podcast. They're very litigious. Burger She Rose is a smash burger place in Los Angeles. Oh, okay. Has Deas had it? I haven't had it, no.

I must have heard of this at some point. It's over near the Grove, it looks like. They don't have, like, weird names, though. It was, like, for the win. Yeah. Like, they don't, like, really evoke burgers never say die of course, yeah. They like having, like, really goofy names. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

It's strange. I don't, no. Yeah. Whatever happened to Burger King. Thank you. You know what you're getting. The King of Burgers. Home of the Whopper.

It makes sense. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. They go a little too. Wendy's, this guy loves his daughter, named his burger place after her. You know what you're getting. In-and-out burger. I'm going to go in there.

I'm going to get a burger. I'm going to get out. I know what I'm getting. No, Pollo Loco. There's some insanity. Exactly. That's a chicken as well. It's like we know what we're getting there.

Yeah. They've gotten a little too cute. They've gotten a little too cute. Everyone wants to be on Instagram. Right. Yeah. Not me. I don't like it.

No? I like it on there too. I like to follow some wives. Some wives? Like housewives? Like housewife? Mark, you've been to the toothsome chocolate and pour previously.

I had been once before. And when you went was close to when it opened in L.A. It was being built because I'm an AMC A-Lister. So I go to the CityWalk a lot. Right. Like, we were, it's always, there's always a dearth of restaurant, like good places to eat there. Yeah. City Walk has a, for people not in L.A.

It has an AMC flagship theater and it has one of the only true IMAX screens in the city. Yeah. Yeah. So we go a lot. But there used to be a hard rock. We saw, oh, the hard rock one of it. Well, what's going in?

What's going in? What could it be? Then we saw something called Toothum chocolate. Emporium and Savory Feast Kitchen. Like, oh, a steampunk chaka road. We got so excited. Then lockdown happened. Yes.

So all we had to get us through lockdown, we were just waiting for this stupid theme restaurant to open to try it. So we waited like two years, I think. Finally went, had a very mediocre meal, then saw Ant Man Quantumania. That was my evening. A tough double bill. That was a tough night. It was just a lot of disappointment all around.

Yeah. Who was the mascot? Was the mascot there when you went? They're at the robot. They had the walk-around robot. So this is a thing that's been discontinued, and we actually have some video of this here so we can get a taste of what we missed. But they had a professor Penelope, Tebu, Tinker Toothsome, and her robot companion, Jacques, used to be walk-around characters. They have since been excised as a cost-saving measure, but here's a little taste of that.

How has Jock's been running? Been running recently? And you can be honest, madam. I can take it. He's been running off of milk chocolate recently, so quite smoothly and sweetly. Thank you. Low last week. Oh, yes, Mark.

We are, you don't love of chocolate. I can also probably please. Sometimes he runs off a dark chocolate. That is true. I tend to get a bit moody when I was it to have the dark chocolate. So we get a taste of. He's a chocolate-powered robot. It's very steampunky.

There's the top hat with a steampunk goggles on Penelope. And then there is a bowler hat on. I guess he's, like, kind of like a jankier sort of Star Wars robot, like the jock. He's like, you know, he's a little, he's a big bucket of bolts. He's doing the robot turns over and over. Yeah, he's definitely physicalizing it like a robot. But he also has a sort of steam bump aesthetic. I would walk by there during pandemic and the robot would put its hands up on the window and kind of look at me, like, look out.

And I was like, do you're just keeping the robot in there? I was just stuck in there. He's quarantined. Um, he, uh, I would say that he sucks, basically. Look, I don't think it's great, but I think that would have enhanced our experience. I like this guy, I like this guy in the video is getting a shot of their backs. Yeah, and he's taking a picture of the robot's back. There's a photo of his drink.

Yeah. Oh, okay. But there's, there's a patron who's behind the two people, uh, the two characters are being interviewed just sitting at the bar for audio listeners. It doesn't look like a little dating profile picture he's taking right now. Catch me a do-sum, ladies. Have some disgusting chocolate-covered bacon with me. Are you swiping right on the chocolate robot?

On Jacques? Yeah, on Jacques. Probably no on Jacques, honestly, because he's an automaton. Yeah. And I just don't know if man can love machine. Good question. I mean, I think in our lifetimes we're going to have to grapple with this reality. Yeah.

Once robots achieve a certain level of detail and sentience. Put a hole in Jack. I'm in. he doesn't even seem to have a mouth is the thing how's he chocolate coming yeah i know it doesn't he can't even really like uh show an expression of happiness right he has no mouth but must scream is he the basis for that short story uh i sort of like a robot in clothes yeah why does he need a wardrobe why is he like what's i guess they just didn't want to pay for a full costume so like let's just put a shirt on him that makes it oh maybe it's more comfortable for the performer as well

because he doesn't have to have like a you know body suit underneath there it's not like this is like shape of water or something yeah that's true he could have says he could make it maybe still have the leather on or maybe just the leather alone made him seem to you know like a like a butcher or like maybe it was too sexy to BDSM yeah yeah yeah be a little too much uh yeah I don't know but all I'm saying is I would swipe right on the steampunk lady

on Penelope I like Penelope she's very Bioshock infinite it's a it's a like i i don't know i mean like i don't understand the kind of generic sort of steampunk tableau that this place operates in well the good plus the good side is is that they the story is baffling and doesn't make any sense should we get into the story the lore yes the lore okay so the it's lengthy it's inscrutable and it is on a display on the table i will read the story of toothsome jacques landed the dirigible in front of the small cottage home in London, England. This is how it begins.

So you have no context for Jock immediately. Who the fuck is Jock? Yeah. Starting right in the middle of it. Professor Dr. Penelope Tiboo Tinker Tootsam, Taylor Soldier Spy, was overjoyed to share her travels, experiences, and experiments with her family. She quickly stepped from the cockpit of the airship and dashed up the Kabul pathway. She threw open the front door soaking in her child at home, except it was empty.

All that remained was the old Victrola in the corner of the living room. Penelope stepped into her mother's kitchen recalling the first time she ever tasted chocolate There was a song in her head She couldn't recall the name of it But it was French and jazzy This sucks There on the kitchen floor

Was a note from her parents Dearest Penelope We have set out to join you in your adventures Surely the world isn't so big That we can't find you We shall look for you wherever chocolate can be found Love, Thomas and Violet Toothsome

So she has laughed on an adventure So the parents let the note on the floor She goes back home. Her parents have left their home and have left a note informing her that they're searching the world for her. They're like on a Captain Code treasure tracker. If you thought that she was going to come and check the home, why not just stay there? Why don't stay at the fucking house?

Yeah, shelter in place. Penelope knew immediately what she had to do. She would take everything she knew about chocolate and develop a fully industrialized state-of-the-art chocolate emporium. Until the day she was reunited with her family, she would share her love and knowledge of chocolate with the world. With the old Victrola in her arms, Penelope made her way back to the dirigible. Jacques quickly lifted them.

the air. Again, still have not established a jock is even a robot. They were off to chase their destiny and find the perfect location for the world's foremost chocolate emporium. There would still be discoveries to be made, but she was determined to make them all. This is the story of Professor Dr. Penelope Tebow Tinkertoothsome, or at least so I've been told. Oh, a little epicuea. Yeah. Wait, who the fuck is telling the story? I'm a liable narrator. Wow. Who's telling the story? I'm a pinch on novel. I am Ozzy Mandis, King of Kings. I think this is, it's just like, I like, what, I don't know, you're reading this, like, what the fuck is this? But also it's like, so she basically has created these outposts as like kind of a bug light as like a honeypot to draw her parents who are scouring the globe trying to find her.

And she's basically like, well, they love chocolate, they'll come to a big chocolate. And universal theme parts, I guess, I guess that's the lore behind this. It sounds like a really stupid family. They're all fucking idiots. They're all dumb as shit. They're dumb as rocks. And also it. Also, if there's ever a robot uprising, I want to take Jacques.

He looks like, it looks like I could kick the shit out of him. I just feel like I could kick Jacques's ass. Oh, I thought you meant you wanted Jacques on your team. Oh, no, no, no, I think I could take him out. I think I could kick his ass. I don't think he has very good visibility. And yeah, he does look like kind of a, like a dandy. I think you could take him.

Yeah, yeah. And there's no, and so there's no background on Jacques, just that he is. In this, in this, it just says Jacques. It, like, it doesn't even refer to him as the chocolate powered robot. It just says Jacques twice. He's powered by chocolate. I think so. I think that's what she was saying

in the interview. That when he give him dark chocolate, he gets dark chocolate, he gets dark. Yeah. So he has like bad days. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah, I think it was like sometimes he's powered by chocolate.

That was some good improv by them. Yeah. What happens you eat dark chocolate? I get dark. Oh, all right. And if there's nuts in it, I get nutting. What do you think happens? I'm a minimum wage here, God.

I should have blamed these performers who are like, I don't like doing this at all. I had to memorize a Bible for this job. For what? Anyway, we know that for a lot of these restaurants, we end up getting... Professor Doctor. Professor Doctor. Oh, whatever, it's fine.

That's some kid logic, right? Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. We oftentimes get delivery for this podcast for logistical reasons. We went in person to tooth some chocolate emporium because this is that kind of experience. We did invite Emma, Amelia, and Susser, and had no takers. No one can't. Zero interest.

It was also the first. first day of rain. It was a rainy day here in L.A. and there was barely anyone in there for lunch. Now look, I like going to Citywalk. It does feel we were saying it just they might need a tear down of citywalk. It is

it's showing its age. It's showing its age quite a bit. It looks exactly the same as when I first visited like in the early 90. Which is so they've frozen up all right. It is frozen in time. I got there wags and I parked in the structure and they were like,

there was a bunch of these promotions for the ET sequel. Oh yeah, because you parked in the ET lot. Yeah, I parked in the ET lot and there was like promotions for the ET sequel.

I'll just show you a photo here. It's a visual joke. The visual that no one can see, but it says, two T. You were parked in section 2T, which was an ad for the ET sequel. I'll put the picture in the YouTube video.

Look, that crushed at lunch. It crushed. It went really well with me and part. It crushed in rehearsal. we were like you gotta say that on the show I was realizing I didn't know how to say it I think the issue is the picture is too small for it to be picked up

Deus wasn't helping over there Googling their bullshit whatever the fuck they were doing they're busy we're busy I'm labeling the 2T photo for the YouTube yeah I'm writing down the time code of this moment so we can cut it later we gotta put it on the socials all right here we go

2T all right that's one joke out of the way we'll get to the nest We wrote down a few because I thought I was on fire that day, but turns out maybe you guys were just having a bad day. No, we're having a good time. Wait, we are server, and our server was Nicole, and that was like, I think pretty much. And the servers, they all have to wear these, the steampunk regalia. And my understanding as well is that you can see into the kitchen. And I didn't get a look at it, but apparently the kitchen employees as well have some sort of steampunk regalia.

Yeah, so it's, they're really laying it on thick with a theming. And that seems to be where they're spending all of their money on the wardrobe and the art direction. because it certainly is in the food. But our server was Nicole, and she was great, great, great, like direct, straightforward recommendations, very friendly, very attentive, and was the sort of thing that was working a shift where Emma, I'm sure you experienced this as a bartender. Thank you for your service, where she was both working behind the bar and serving customer, serving cables. So kind of double duty. It was sparse in there. I mean, I'm not saying that it wasn't a hard job.

I'm saying, like, it was pretty dire situation in that restaurant. No, I would say it was about, like, an eight full. Yeah. There's a top level that I don't think it was even open. Yeah, yeah, I would, I was, like, I think off the top of my head, I think there was like six tables taken maybe. But I think like, the bartender's waiting tables, they were like, it's going to be a slow day. We'll just send someone home and you could do it all. And I don't think it was going to, it was a Friday.

It was Friday, yeah. And I don't think the night was going to, it was the rain and everything. It just looked. When I left Predator's Badland, nothing was going on in there still. I remember when it first opened, it was busy. Like, when at first, oh, because I think people were just, like, curious. Yeah, sure. What is this?

But now I never see a line. My understanding is that the Orlando location still does quite well. Like, there's a lot of, there's a lot of business of the Orlando location, but this, this one is pretty underutilized. I even think, like, the themeing isn't like that over the top. Or like, it looks cool from the outside, but once you go inside, it basically is like, feels like a Panera bread that's been themed to steampunk. Right. The exterior of the structure is what's really, like, like, that's the most impressive part. You're saying good, good, uh, uh, cutlery and, uh, in the glassware was great.

Glassware was awesome. Good heft to it. It must be good food if we're praising the cutlery. Yes. We haven't gotten into, uh, the, the, the dog shit meal that we have. Let's talk, let's first talk about. I'd rather eat Nick out of Nick Wager's underwear in the morning. Sure. Let's start first talk about what was inside that glassware are round of cocktails. I got myself a non-alcoholic strawberry, vanilla, mint fresca. Mitch, you got yourself the cocoa, And, Rennie, you got the espresso tini. That's true. The cocoa clouds came with a little cotton candy on the side. This is, there was like a, there was like a, there was like a chocolate oasis or whatever it was. That was like a dark chocolate version of this.

And I asked which one. And she was like, Cocoa clouds is better. And it was like white chocolate and Kalua in there. But it was very, mine was, you, you had a sip of it, very, uh, just tastes like alcohol. Yes. And like, uh, with, with a chocolatey drink, I think that I wanted a little bit more, uh, you know, I needed a little bit more chocolate. I mean, there is chocolate, but I just wanted that alcohol flavor to be just a little less.

As far as individual components go, your drinks were functionally identical. You both had 360 double chocolate vodka, white chocolate liqueur, and Kalua. The difference is that Mark's had espresso and yours had Baileys and it had the cotton candy garnish. But yes, if you were consuming the chocolate cocktail at the chocolate restaurant, you wanted to be chocolatey, was your suitably chocolate? Yours was much better. It was pretty good. Mine was decent. There was like a dust on it.

I don't know what the dust was. Okay. But I was interested. It may have just been dust. Oh. It's a possibility. Maybe it's from Jean-Cottacone. I don't know.

And they had the three beans on it. Yes. Because not every place remembers to put the three. I don't know why espresso martini is meant to have three beans, but they are. It is fun. It is fun. Yeah. My Fresco was fine.

I mean, this is the thing. It's kind of indicative of this place's, overall problem, which is that there's so many components for each of these menu items that they all end up kind of end up tasting like nothing. Lemon, lime, soda, sparkling water, vanilla, strawberry, mint, and lime. So we've got all these things. We basically got a mohito plus vanilla plus strawberry. It just is, I mean, it's a word I'll say again. It's just basically unga-pachka. And I just had this sort of generic sweetness that I was tasting that I found kind of cloying and overwhelming. My hat's off to Jacques for combining all these flavors.

and having it taste like nothing. It's such a, I mean, like, we find this out later. It's the opposite of Willy Wonka where it's like all these flavors. And then there's a flavor explosion in your mouth and you're tasting all these different things. And with Jacques here, there's so many different flavors and the end result is boring. Like if Jackson Pollock sucked. Yeah, 100%. I mean, that is, there's, there's, and we'll get into it.

But the drinks are maybe the highlight of the night. I think so. They didn't have a bar when they first opened. but now they have a bar area. They also got rid of the gift shop. There used to be a gift shop, too, that they got rid of. Yeah, and I'm guessing that the jock. No one's buying Tootsam merch.

Yeah, the merch is not selling well. I wonder how much that goes for now. I listened to the podcast, The Right episode about Toothsome when they covered the, you know, they did the citywalk saga in Orlando. And they were remarking in how expensive all of the merch in the gift shop was. And so I think that was maybe probably part of it is like no one was going in there and spending like $200 on like a bunch. on like a bust of Jacques or whatever. It's like, why am I going to do this?

Did those guys like it? No, they absolutely did not. Okay. They also have a smooth and easy whiskey flight there. I'm just going to describe this because this sounded disgusting to me. You get a flight of screwball peanut butter whiskey, Whiskey Smith salted caramel whiskey, doughball cookie dough cookie dough whiskey, and whiskey Smith chocolate whiskey.

It's just like sweet on sweet on sweet on sweet. Yeah, yeah. It's like, it seems like the clientele should be like 17. You know what I mean? Like they should be like 17-year-old. This is your dentist nightmare. So we've gotten into the apps and we asked for some wrecks here and, you know, we got steered towards a few things.

We got the chocolate almond bread, which is a, it's kind of just like a, you know, not quite a flat bread. It's a little poofier than that. It's kind of like a pound cake sort of texture and it comes with a salted caramel butter that is really, really sweet. Honestly, if this wasn't like. stale, I mean, obviously it was frozen and they told us that it wasn't made

in-house. No, they were like, they were very clear about, hey, this is being, this is made off-site so you know. I appreciate the transparency. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, but it tasted like it. It tasted like it. It tasted like it was made at a dog food factory. It was, it was, it was, it was stale. I mean, this is one of the better things we had. We finished all of it, I think

except for maybe one slice. We ate all of it. The chocolate almond bread, which is, bread, which is, you know, again, very sweet for an appetizer. It was like a dessert appetizer, and the dominant flavor was that artificial, like, you know, almond syrup. Like, like, that's what you were tasting the most of. But

the almond extract. Warm stale bread. Warm stale bread. Uh, with, with, you know, just, just like a, just sweet on sweet, you're piling on there with a salted caramel butter. But yes, it was one of the better menu items, uh, which is damning this place with faint praise. Melted like chocolate chips can fool you into thinking it's good.

Right. And they were like, ooh, it's like gooey. But wait a minute. Yeah. No, it was in the butter was a little unapachco, I exist. Yes. We also got the red hot chocolate wings, which were flash-fried with hot chocolate sauce, sesame seeds, and green onion. You know, we should say the hot chocolate sauce is not just hot chocolate. It also, part of the hot, and I say this is something of a heat seeker, is Frank's Red Hot. Which almost took away the mystery when she was like, it's Franks with chocolate.

And you're like, oh, okay. But I'll say this, this is the, this was the saddest thing to me because I thought the sauce actually did work. And then I thought the chicken was so frozen and then overfried and bad that, like, it just was a bummer again. The sauce was the only way this place could work conceptually, which is like it's got a chocolate tinge to it, but it's mostly Franks Red Hot. You're mostly tasting that burn. They pulled off the sauce working. No, so surprisingly, surprisingly the sauce was not the problem here. It was just the low quality chicken way.

So it's like whatever like horrible Cisco wings they got. got that were just tough as hell and, like, I think, like, heated from frozen. And they forgot your, uh, sesame seeds on them. We didn't get sesame seeds, yeah, because I wouldn't have been able to eat them. Yeah. So I clock that. Yeah. And I saved it to judge them later right now.

I don't like when there's so much sauce, though, that you can't see the wing through the skin under it, you know what I mean? I concur. Like, there is so much thick sauce that starring the sauce. Yeah. There was like a second where I bit into that wing and I was like, this might be fun. And then, you know, we'll see what happens. happens. No, then it was like, oh, no, this is kind of, I mean, this is edible.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, that's, that's like the most you can hope for here. The onion rings. Okay. So, again, I think the thing that this place does best is just it has decent fryer work. Like, like, I, but even the wings were overfried. The wings were overfried. But I think the onion rings were pretty well fried. And the fries later were well fried. That said, zero seasoning. And you run into this a lot at chain restaurants where they're either, every things either salty as hell or just completely unseasoned. And this was the case where there wasn't even table salt where you could adjust it

with. So it was just like, utter, like totally flavorless onion rings that just had a good crispness to them, a good fry, a good amount of breading, but that it comes with a spicy chocolate aoli dipping sauce, which I thought was disgusting. Yes. The one sauce that it came with was gross. It's really fucking nasty. It's one of those things that you dip

it once and you're like, I don't want to dip it in this again, but there is no other sauce to dip it in. We got some ketchup eventually and we used the ketchup, but even the ketchup, I was like, this is also sweet. Everything in this table is sweet. Give me some ranch or something. And made me think, like, no seasoning on the table is like, this place, like, secretly run by, like, Mormons or something?

Yeah, right. Is there some, like, religious thing happening? Like, are we not allowed to season food? Is Jacques the Mormon god? I have seven wives. Wags also, by the way, was screaming, uh, everything on this table is sweet. He was screaming this out loud, uh, in the restaurant. Can a man get some ranch?

You were screaming that as well. And you can't. We didn't get any ranch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were, the ketchup was the way to get out of it. But it was, but also even dipping it in the ketchup, they were so unseasoned. Yeah. And no salt on the table is insane.

Just bereft of flavor. A completely unseasoned win. No seasoning on anything. Isn't seasoning like, seasoning is like cheap. Yeah. I think salt and pepper is not that expensive. What I meant? Raisin canes.

Give me some seasoning. I like. Shots fired at Raisin Cains. I agree with it needed salt. Yeah. That said, these were all relatively okay. The thing that was just absolutely execrable and inedible was the chocolate covered bacon. Listen to her sides, not apps.

And we asked our server, hey, there's chocolate covered bacon and there's chocolate covered pickles. And she was like, well, the chocolate covered bacon works better was about as much as she would give us. And so we got the chocolate covered bacon. I'm mostly not eating pork. So this is like a big, you know, like me like, hey, like, like, like, fuck it. We'll do this for science. Um, tasted like absolute dog shit. It was disgusting.

I, I called it a dog's death row meal because right, yeah, a bacon, it tasted like a dog, first of all, it tasted like a dog treat. It did. But it tastes like a dog treat covered in chocolate. And it was cold, too. No. It was cold bacon. Ew. It was, it was, it was.

I think that's the only way they can. The chocolate would. Yeah. But kind of like a, like a, like, it was like a. snack and bacon with like a chocolate dip or something. There you go. That would be what. Or a candied bacon maybe? Oh, there you go. We already have the chocolate aoli. We established that.

So maybe some chocolate dip and sauce, but they really want to do the chocolate coating. It's really hard to fuck up bacon, I feel like. Yeah, you end up with this limp like it. That and two tea, the two things I wrote down. The dog's death Romeo. Two tea was good. The Deis wasn't paying attention.

Yeah, they still get it. This limp cold subway caliber bacon that is covered in just a really low quality chocolate as well. Yes, the chocolate sucked. There was nothing about that was good. And then I got a sandwich that came with the chocolate covered pickle. Yeah, so we did get to try that. We all tried it

and to jump ahead just a bit to this tasted like barf. It was gross. It was disgusting. Really fucking nasty. Yeah. It was rough. It was, it was rough. It was just was not, it was not good. Well, as I said this, I know, I pointed this out also in the restaurant. But there was a fly up on the window, and it was never trying to get any of the food.

It was just sitting there. You saw it. It was sitting there trying to probably get out of... I wish I was at Menchies. Trying to get out of the chocolate emporium. It did not seem happy. Moving on to the Mains. So I got the spicy Hawaiian double smash burger.

And again, I'm something of a heat secret. Two smashed beef patties, grilled pineapple and red pepper, hot honey, spicy barbecue sauce. I got, you get with either steak fries or tots. I got tots. Mitch and Rennie, you both got steak fries. Mitch, you got the fried chicken BLT, which had the aforementioned chocolate dip pickle in addition to tomato, the chicken breast, tomatoes, bib lettuce, pickles, bacon, mustard aoli, and toasted brioche. And, Mark, you got the classic club sandwich.

I took my bib lettuce and I stuck it into my shirt. It's not that sort of lettuce. And I, well, whatever, I tried something. I liked it. Sliced hammed and roasted turkey, bacon, butter, lettuce, tomato. Swiss cheese, mayo, griddle, country, white bread. You know, I took your butter lettuce, and I spread it on my almond bread. There we go.

See, we're trying again. We're trying. We're fucking trying. We're trying. Bib lettuce, not great, but I tried it. And you guys can listen to it was like, man, I didn't like that, but I tried something for you. And look, I wish that the, I mean, the chocolate emporium, this is the thing. It's kind of not even trying.

Like, like, uh, like, there's not a lot of, like, chocolate entree. Yes. This is the thing. And also, by the way, there is like a, like a, what is the, the Mexican dish that's the, the, Molle. There's like a Molli. Yeah. Why is there no chicken Molle on the menu? That seems like a slam dunk.

I think the issue there is that Mollay requires some like craft and technique to make properly. Sure. And they're just like, what's the cheapness? Our standards are too high. Exactly. If we're not going to do it well, we're not going to do it at all. Yeah. Also, can't there be more steamed things?

That would be fun, too. some dumplings or something chocolate dumps steamed chocolate dumplings there you go dessert dumplings there you go that feels on theme in a couple of ways anyway that's i fun that's what i'm saying yeah jock is shitting them out you eat them eat my droppings the burger i had was was really gross so like there's just there again unga-pachka too many components your burger was maybe the worst entree it was really fucking bad. I did end up just eating the beef in isolation because I was like

this kind of, at least I'm getting the protein here, like ultimately, but like the first off, it's a brioche bun. I think they were all on brioche, right? Yeah. Or no, yours was on, yours on on grilled bread. But like the brioche is just like, it's too too much. There's too much bread here. And it's also just like

such like a, it feels like an early aught sort of execution. We're going to have Edison lamp too in here. And then and then there's just like too many components on this thing and again it somehow ended up tasting like absolutely nothing. It wasn't spicy or sweet. That was the same issue with my fried chicken club. It was like, okay, I like the components on here. It had that awful. The bacon was the low quality bacon that was covered

in chocolate. Yeah. But it was just, I was shocked at how little it tasted like anything. Yeah. It just was very, very boring. Right. My club had turkey and ham, which I thought was strange to have, I always think it's a little weird to have two species at once. Ham's a weird choice for a clubs now. But I would got to say yours by far the best of the bunch. Which is not saying it should be a chocolate restaurant shouldn't be depressing. Yes. Yes. It was extremely depressing. It also shouldn't be like

imagination. The closest thing to a conventional menu item is the thing that's most edible. You know what I mean? It's just like, it's just like, okay, you can do a club sandwich fine. I mean, I'm sure your chicken Caesar salad is okay as well, but like this isn't why I'm coming here, you know? I will say Citiwock seemed to

depressing, just amongst the rain. It was like, it was depressing all the, there was that weird production store. Production Central. Production Central that was in the dark and people were going in there in the dark. It was a rough citywalk day all around. It just seemed like things were not working there. And being in this big, empty restaurant that also was just kind of gray and the food fucking sucked. Yeah.

This is, this is maybe my, this is up there for worst meals of the year. Thank you, Mark. You're welcome. I think this is the worst overall meal of the year from a food quality standpoint. But anyway, we kind of enjoyed the cocktails. We endured the savory side. And that glassware. The glassware.

We love the glassware. But now we are getting to the piece de resistance, the chocolate emporium side, the dessert menu. Okay, now we're going to have some fun. Now this is the reason people come here. So they have a wicked for good milkshake as an LTO, which we decided to get this Barry and Granny Smith apple shake. So it's kind of like a pink green swirl, emerald rock candy and a whipped topping, which is also a pink color. The same coloration is the berry part of the milkshake.

And we got a brownie Sunday. Oh, come on. They're going to knock out the brownie Sunday, right? Chocolate ice cream, chocolate chips, chocolate syrup, Oreo crumbs and chocolate whipped topping. Chocolate five ways. Here we go. This is going to be a home run. They both were.

They sucked. They were fucking bad. They fucking sucked. And ice cream Sunday sucked. I didn't even know it was possible. Do you think they brought the brownie in? Like, they bring the bread in? Or do they make that there?

The brownie did not seem baked in house. It also seemed a little bit older and it was not warm. It wasn't warm. Yeah. A brownie Sunday, the brownie's not fucking warm. I feel like a chocolate in Poryam House that at least make their brownie. I agree. It's nothing else.

I agree. The brownie was like tough. Like it was hard to get a piece of it. There was this chocolate whipped cream on top of the ice cream. And then it also tasted like what the ice cream tasted like. Everything tasted the same. Everything tasted the same. It was a fucking big bowl of shit.

It sucks. So you're just getting textural variance. but you weren't getting any flavor variance. Everything kind of tasted the same at all. It looked like Nick's wet dream. It did. It looked like Wags. It did.

It did. It did. There's not only one fun item name. It was like Madame Tuna Melt. Or Tuna Melt, madame. Yeah, no, you're right. They don't, they, I want to see her one woman show. But that was the only fun one.

No, it's the sort of thing where they could lean into it a little bit more. and they somehow, like, I'll bring up the menu here, but they somehow just, like, half-ass even the names of everything. Are you happy? We went to the restaurant. Everyone gets mad at us to not go to the restaurant. We got a big shitty bowl of Sundays. This guy's beefing in isolation.

He's going to take his beef patties out of his fucking sandwich. I can't imagine having this food, like, DoorDash, though. I know. That's like the saddest meal. By the way, we didn't even talk about how shitty the fucking wicked shake was. The wicked shake was awful. I think that was like, as far as the worst thing I had, it was either the wicked shake or the chocolate-covered bacon.

I think I'd rather have the wicked shake because at least as like a milkshake. But it was also like it was so like pungently tart that it was really unpleasant. Also, if they promoted that as the Play-Doh shake, it was like, it's like Play-Doh, but edible. I'd be like, that's, I believe it. It would be better. It was disgusting. Everything was gross. It sucked.

it. Yeah. Yeah, really, really bad meal. I did get a black coffee, which was okay. Okay. And that Coke Zero, huh? And they were good. They didn't have a, they don't have a specialty coffee menu. So I asked at the end, it was like, do you do like an espresso or a latte? And it's like, no, we just have coffee. I got a coffee. But I get a little mini French press. That was nice. Nicole and Nicole properly, you know, like let it steep for me. So it was ready to pour when it got to the table. I like that. Yeah, sure. That was good. I'm trying to give some highlights here. The chairs were comfy. The chairs were comfy. They weren't, the table never collapse. That's true.

And I did lay down on it for a while. The restaurant wasn't on fire. Yeah. So no one said it is. But that's only because it was raining. Yeah, probably. Yeah. There were no slur. There was yeah. From the staff. From the staff. We said a lot.

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We'll begin with you. Okay. Your thoughts, your fork score for Toothome Chocolate Emporium. It was terrible. Yeah. And like, if you're going to be a themed restaurant, you have to get the restaurant part right, at the bare minimum. And then they also don't get the theming right either.

It's nothing magical about this. The food is terrible. I would never go back. Yeah. One seems generous. I mean, one for the staff? Sure. The glassware?

Sure, that's fine. Yeah. For that glassware. The glassware is nice. The glassware is nice. Maybe just go and like touch the glassware and then leave. Yeah. I'm sure they'll let you do that.

Even one seems like too much, though. You can go less than one. Ugh. Half a fork, two times. Yeah, two times. That feels fitting. Two times. Wow.

Mostly for the glassware. And I've only gone two times. So there we go. it works. Mitch, what do you think? Hmm. I didn't like it.

Yeah. I didn't like anything about it. I liked the company. That was a great. I had a good time and I went and saw a movie afterwards. So it wasn't the loss of a day. It was a grim day over there at, at,

at, at city walk. I also felt terrible afterwards. I did feel really bad. That's, about midway through Preder of Badlands, I, I almost had a wire wet dream.

I had to I had to I Wags I'm just gonna say it Zero forks Yeah Zero forks folks Bad bad I mean like

It did It did and they It was horrible Yeah It's it's up there as some of the worst food I've ever had on the podcast As far as in your experience I feel bad I want Jacques to be good I don't I'm not trying to shit on it's not even there anymore

He left. He's not there. Jock left. Jock's been powered down. He's been decommissioned. He's collecting dust. That's, then what are we doing here? I mean, like, look.

Colapie got executed. Oh, shit. For war crimes? Yeah. It's buried in international waters. I think you were saying the bare minimum is having food that kind of works. Yeah. And they do not. They don't.

They don't do it. As far as experiential concepts that do not come together, it's reminding me of two places. One, we went to this year. Mitch in New York City, we wasted one of our meals at Planet Hollywood, which was similarly awful, but the food was better than this. Oh my God, yes. But that said the theming was nothing. And this at least feels like it had some effort in the theming, I guess, like the interior design. There was one top hat behind glass. Yeah, there's kind of something going on, I guess. I'm giving a zero force, but the staff was nice. The staff was nice. The service was great. The other place just reminds me of

is pirate dinner adventure and that food was bad that food was really really bad like basically inedible i think this food is maybe worse than pirate dinner adventure and also we didn't get a pirate stunt show you know what i mean so like we're missing that element so it's like definitely a worst experience i definitely go back to pirate dinner adventure 10 times before i went back to uh to some chocolate emporium once and this is the whole thing is like also it's cynical universal stole it from this guy who was stealing it from someone else Or stealing it from Wonka, or stealing it from his daughter, either way. Yes.

Anyway, here's the thing. You're at Universal City Walk. You're at the Toothsome Chocolate Emporium and Savory Feast Kitchen. From our vantage point, from where we were sitting, I knew we were right next to a Cinnabon. We could see a Menchies and a Voodoo Donut. And this is a dessert specialty restaurant where we spent over $200 on lunch. If we'd gone to Voodoo Donut or Cinebon or Menchies, we would have had a better dessert experience. 100%.

It would have just been more enjoyable. Not that I'm even like the biggest fan of any of those places, you know, Sinabon I probably like the most. But it's just like there's so many food options here. And this might be the worst one in the entire shopping center. It's bad when you're like. Clearly culinary stand. When you're like, I wish I was at Margaritaville.

Yeah, exactly. Margaritville would be better for sure. Margaritville would be so much better. Or the A and C concessions. A thousand percent. I've never been to the NBC Sports Grill. I'd rather go back to the, go to the NBC Sports Grill over this. Yeah.

I'd rather go outside and lap from a. puddle. It was horrible. In a rainy day, it would be better. It was sucked. It was bad. It was bad. I mean, yes.

Or plastic bad stew or soup. Anything. It was fucking awful. It was truly disgusting. But I do like that it's kind of vaguely steampunky. And I did like the glassware. So I were going to give it one time. Wow.

One time. Yeah. A quarter four. Wow. Yeah. Really bad. Broken play club. Really awful.

The broken play club. I'm glad I waited five years to go You know what? We're mad at you because of this Fair enough After what I did to Muppet Christmas Carol I deserve it

It's true Rough stuff All right hey That was a review of toothsome chocolate Emporium and savory feast Kitchen It's time for a segment In which Mitch and Mark

are given a frame from a movie involving a food item And must guess which film it's from This is Frank Check Hit it, Emma Frank Check with Mitchell and Wiger Frank Check

with Mitchell and Wiger Don't know what film foodstuffs to expect All you need to know is that the name of the segments Frank Check Okay, we'll each see a frame And then you can buzz in with your name And whoever guesses correctly first will get a point Okay

Let's get to the first slide here I love it. Mitch It is fuck you buzz in you don't know I know it I do know it for audio listeners

this is a still from an animated and it's it's Miyazaki and it is not Howl's Moving Castle but it is the big famous

Miyazaki that's this best one and I can't remember it and the name of it is the name of it is really interesting it's

it's one of my it's one of my why is I just saw in the last couple of years. Okay. None of these are the title. Oh, no, wait. Oh, no, I'm getting it wrong.

Spirited away. Do we give it to them? You are correct. What do you mean? Do you give it to me? I got it. I know, but you just said, there was so much thinking out loud. I guess we give it to you.

Mitch gets a point. Spirited away. Fair enough. I know, we need to start a clock when the clock runs out ready gets to seal. All right, that's fair. We can do a clock rule from here on out Because then I could just say whoever says your name The fastest and then you just stall

Yes Is that your favorite Miyazaki? What's your favorite Miyazaki? It's up there I like Princess Mononoke too I like Princess Mononokey that's my number one But I like the wind rises as well It's so many great great options And incredible incredible Bare Minimum may be think of

When you were saying Bear Minimum It made me think of a website with like big guys That like kind of look shitty And little towels that's better small hogged big guys bare minimum bare minimum.com

you won't feel a thing cover themselves with moist tallettes yeah no boys property that's owned by doughboys now all right we have a we have a

close up shot of a slab of meat held by a gloved hand this looks like our experience at toothsome chocolate factory some sort of culinary It's not meat. I'll just say that. Okay. It's some sort of meat-like object, but it's some sort of brown

food stuff that's on a plane. I have no idea. Perhaps a piece of cake. Might be cake. And this is from live action. Oh. I'm just, people are listening to this. They're not looking at the fucking video. Just going off the mark.

Yes. Just going on, this is wrong. But the Italian job? There's no way. It's not the Italian job, but I appreciate the spirit of the guess. I don't know what it is either. I'm just going to guess Mitch, Pink Floyd's the Wall. It's not Pink Floyd's the Wall. It is the 1996 adaptation of Matilda.

Oh. See? I was just a little too old for Matilda. I should have gotten that. I did love Matilda. I was a thousand times as a kid. That should have gotten that one. That one kid eats a lot of it, right?

I really like the choppy boy. The book. Did either you all read the book? I did read the book. I love the book. More rolled all. You're right. More rolled doll.

There you go. Wow. What a nice bit of synergy. Nice anti-Semi content. All right. Let's look at the next one. Mark. I heard Mark.

Weapons. You are correct. It is weapons. This is the hot dog tray scene from weapons. A very fun scene. Seven hot dogs. Those do look at them. Some cookies.

Some baby carrot. and some ruffles with some dip. Do they get to enjoy this, or is their meal interrupted? I think they start to eat it, and then I think it gets interrupted. I think so, right? But that said, those hot dogs are looking good. I mean, that looks good as hell. Yeah.

I like it. Would you pre-mastered a hot dog, though? Isn't that dealer's choice? Well, here's the thing. This is a, this is a, you know, a domestic partnership, a married couple, I believe. and they have like, I think they probably know each other's tastes. Yeah.

So it's like, I'm presenting this the way I know you like it. Also, they're not fucking after this. That's for sure. No way. All right, Mark gets a point.

It's tied at 1-1. Next up. We have a live action shot of a couple of glasses of wine. Mark. Bean John Malkovich? Mark is correct. Wow.

The vignette's cleaning up. Around the side, the edges, the sort of a circular POV. is the tell that it is being John Malkovich. And a shout out to movieclips.com. They do amazing work. They do amazing work.

Mark has two. Mitch has one. Thank God I stalled on that one. I haven't have fucking gotten one since. All right. Next up. He's a movie maestro over here. Mark. I heard Mark.

Little shop of horrors. You are correct. You're a little shop of horrors. And this is a thing. I told you. You're good. The man knows his movies. I love this movie.

This is my favorite movie. Really? It's so good. Really? Yeah, it's my favorite movie, hands down. It came up in conversation because we were talking about Wicked and Wicked for Good. And you talked about this is a musical and just the way it was paced. Yeah, just like Wicked, there's like a song and then 20 minutes of boring talking and then another song. But like Little Shop, it just like moves.

Like one song ends. Yeah. They just showed it at Vidiates a few months ago. Oh, that's awesome. On film, even. Wow. I'd never seen it on the big screen before. It was great.

Oh, I'm not seen on the original ending or the... The darker ending? I prefer the darker ending. Me too. It's so much better. It's so cool. It's so much better. What's the darker ending?

Seymour like eats the world, right? The plans take over the world. They're like Kaiju. And the ma, the puppetry is incredible. You can watch it on YouTube. Pipemovieclips.com. Oh, I didn't, I didn't know what's out there. Did they change it for, like, kids?

Because I think test audiences rejected it. It's like closer to the Broadway shows ending, like this dark cynical ending of, like capitalism run amok. But they're like, no, we wanted the happy ending. For audio listeners, this is a shot of a couple of trays. of a classic TV dinner before the microwave era when these arrived in like foil containers

So we got a subdivided thing With some corn nibblets It looks like a brownie Some sort of a mash And then a like a fried chicken Or some sort of tending Put them back in the foil Put them back in the foil

I would get a fucking A TV dinner That would you put in the oven That's cool All right Mark has three Mitch has one But it's still anyone's game Because we have a couple questions left

Next up Mitch I heard Mitch Texas Chainsaw Massacre? It is not Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Rats. For audio listeners, we are looking at some sort of decrepit domicile, an old fridge with a whole bunch of discarded things in front of it. Oh.

Can I go again or no? No. I don't know, but I'll get a mark. I'll guess. This is wrong. Seven? It's not seven, but it is that sort of visual aesthetic. Like, second movie in a trilogy, not X, but the one after X.

Oh, it is absolutely not Pearl. It's not Pearl. No, you know, this is this movie, what you're looking for, if you remember the Motorhead song and Lemmy's famous words, Hellraiser. This is Hellraiser. Hellraiser? Hellraiser. Damn.

All right, Mark has three. I'm sad, but I didn't get that. Me too. Mark's going to win, but we have. have one question left. Bonus question. What food stuff to the whale and point break have in common? Meatball subs. Mitch, you are correct. It is meatball subs. Yeah. We have a shot of Brendan Fraser in the fat suit with the meatball sub and then Gary Busey crushing a meatball sub. My favorite part of the whale is when the delivery man finally sees the whale. He's been delivering

Italian subs and pizzas is this guy and he's like shocked that he's fat. Yeah. The delivery has, what? That's such, I hated that moment so much. Well, that's the other thing. This dude lives in Idaho. And it's just like, in America. In America.

Like, like, you've never seen a fat person? I know. You could go to like a smart and final or go to any casino. He's in a delivery guy who's leaving the pizza outside of his house, the whole movie. And then you see him, you're like, oh, my God. The same, the same thing happens when he puts on his Zoom camera at the end. And all of his students are like, oh, my God. Look, he's fat.

And it's just like, all right. Yeah, I guess he's a little. heavy. Welcome to America. I don't know. I saw that movie in the week. I was in one of the cinema score. When it was like, oh, yes, I was like, gave it a D. I was like so thrilled to give this like prestige

movie. I was like, I can't wait to be I, I, I, it pissed me off. That motherfucker floats. The worst daughter ever put to film. Yeah. She goes and kills her dad and he fucking floats. Yeah. He walks though, right before he floats. He walks and then he floats. Yeah.

We should all be so lucky. He died for our chin? Block, that's good. We like Brandon Fraser. We love Brandon Fraser. We love Brin back the mummy. They are, apparently. Mark with him? Mark wins. Rachel Weiss.

Just like a restaurant. We're our feedback. Let's up with the feedback. Today's email is from Sean from Vermont. Sean writes, all the pickle and sandwich talk in the recent Zach Cherry Jimmy John's episode got me thinking about a staple in my house growing up. The peanut butter and pickle sandwich. I've heard of this. I've ever actually had one.

My grandfather. born in 1924, loved two interesting sandwiches, actually, a peanut butter and pickle sandwich and an onion and butter sandwich, literally just sliced raw onion between two pieces of butterbread. That sounds good to me. I'd try that. That's like depression era, food. My understanding of these were staples for him and his brother during the Great Depression. I grew up eating them occasionally, and they remained comfort food for me today. My question for you all is, are there any unique foods that an older person for a bygone era introduce you to that you still have a fondness for? Thanks from the bottom of my heart for keeping me company twice a week while I trudged through life up here in the cold dark woods Oh God. Okay, Sean. Sounds like he's going through the Great Depression himself. Why is it going to send an email? It doesn't suck that the Great Depression, like, it's a good name for a dark time.

The Great Depression. But I was like, the last 10 years have sucked shit. We don't get to say this. It's been a depressed. You know what I mean? The greater depression. Yeah. It's fucking sucks.

The greatest depression. They were poor. I know it was harder or whatever. And they, you know, they had a vote or whatever. They had to eat onion sandwiches. At least they didn't have internet trolls. You know? We're now at a time where I just feel like, like, you know, economic growth is so completely untethered from people's day-to-day reality, right?

It's like the economy is like it's so hyper optimized that they're just like, honestly, we're just going to keep making money. We just don't care what actually is happening to anybody, you know? It's like it feels like everything's so bad. It feels like everything's broken, but somehow the stock market continues to go up. Like, I don't fucking know. I know it works. But here at doughboys, we care. Yeah.

We do care about. We do, right, wags, we care about it. We care. So, okay, I'm trying to think of this. This is a little bit of a tricky prompt. It's an older person who introduced you to something that's maybe a little bit antiquated that you end up developing a fondness for. One thing I can think of, and it's making me think of my grandfather on my mom's side, who really liked a Monte Cristo sandwich. Oh, sure.

Which is like a deep fried sandwich that I probably. probably would have never tried if it wasn't for, for him mentioning it. And what I, like, it's a fucking heavy sandwich. It is, like, essentially like your club sandwich, but it's, you know, like, like, like, kind of coated like French toast and then deep fried and then you dip it in some sort of. Is there a jelly? Some sort of jam. Yeah, yeah.

And, uh, but it's good as hell. It's just like a day ruiner. But yeah, I used, I think that's probably the closest thing I have to an answer. I guess cream of wheat also I kind of got into a little bit, like create, which feels like kind of like an older generation sort of breakfast. I, you know what I don't see too much? Like eggs in a hole or toad in a hole. Oh, sure.

And or dropped, what we called it in my house forever was dropped egg on toast, which was just like a poached egg, put it on a piece of toast. Right. And I really love that, but I'll tell you one that is more antiquated that I used to have as a boy,

and this made me feel like a little fancy New England boy, but a soft boiled egg. Oh, sure. It would be like in that little egg hole. hold or do you? How fun is that? It was a lot of fun. You cut the top off? You cut the top off and then you're, it's a very, it feels like very English or so. Like it feels just old school. Yeah. But I liked the soft boiled egg. I had a, I had a, I had a good time of soft boiled eggs. Yeah. One thing I could think of is like a cheap, my mom used to make a

cheese ball. Oh, cheese balls. Yeah. You know, like rolling in walnuts. Right. And with like a little, there's like some sort of horseradish maybe in with cheese. I feel like that was probably antiquated by the time we were eating it even in the 80s. No, I remember, I remember my, my grandma. would make that and that was like a fun sort of like oh this is a little Thanksgiving appetizer this is on the table so I wasn't expecting this

this is the thing I have once a year that I wasn't expecting this yeah um Dase you guys have anything that's old school like that I don't know if it's necessarily old school but my grandfather loved peanut butter and bacon sandwiches and he would make those all the time and it's like one of those things that every once in a while I'm like

that sounds so cozy and delicious yeah but I don't know if that's really that old school that's you don't see too many peanut butter and bacon sandwiches. Am, you got anything? I don't know, buttered toast. Not a bad answer. I love buttered toast.

It is old. It's old. It is for sure old. Mike did the cheese ball mention, bring back any memories? It did. I remember my grandfather would always come over. My grandfather was coming over. My mom would buy two things.

Miracle whip and early times whiskey, which I found is really shitty whiskey. Every once in a while, I kind of want to go buy early times. remember my grandfather, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Miracle Rip, I remember I used to love

my grandfather leave, like, oh, I can make these great cheese sandwiches, which now I know is a shitty way to make a cheesy sandwich. Use best foods.

Right. But you're a kid, I think, you know, different, but I remember those two things. The tangy zip of Miracle Whip. Yeah.

Now I'm a duke's man. Was a thing in my grandparents' house, too? Yeah. Jukes. Was Miracle whip a big, was it a big, was a big, with a blue lid.

Oh, right. Yeah. Size with mayonnaise. Yeah. But it tasted slightly different. It's different. It's different. It's definitely different.

We should do a miracle whip episode. Yeah, we'll do a miracle whip episode. Hell yeah. When we were talking nocturnal emissions earlier, did I already tell this story that I woke up and while he was doing a little, he was making biscuits right over my crotch. Did I tell you this? Wally was making biscuits right over my crotch and I woke up with a boner. Did I talk about this? He was like, yeah, he did something.

know what I've been in there somewhere. If you have a question or comment of chain restaurants, you can email us at Feedbag at BirdFuck.com. I leave us always Mildo. That's 8304-63684. For our producers Emma Erdbrink, our associate producer Amelia Marino, our video editor is Mike Dorfman, doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com.

And the Doe Boys double, our weekly bonus episode, plus our entire pre-2018 back catalog is over at patreon.com slash doughboys. Our guest, Mark Rennie. Thank you so much for joining us. This is so fun. Thank you for having. Thank you so much for being here.

What a hoot. We're happy you're okay for God's sake. You too. Yeah, Jesus. I'm happy I'm okay too. Thanks for having me. Of course. This was so fun.

Do you have anything you like to plug? Well, the restaurant sucked. The restaurant sucked. We had a good time hanging out at lunch. It was really, really bad. It was awful. One of the worst meals I've had in years. Yeah.

I do a monthly podcast with Dan Lippert on Comedy Bang Bang World called Eat Eat Pray Dunk you can listen to. Other than that, I had a blast. You done it. Yeah. Other than that, I had a blast. would say donate to the Trevor Project. That's a crisis line for LGBTQ youth in crisis.

So give them some money. There you go. Yeah. That's all I'll say. I love Dan Lippeter as well. What a combo you guys. He doesn't do anything for youth in crisis. Tiske,

Tisk, Dan. No, no, no. Until next time for the smoothman, Mike Mitchell. I'm Tiger Wier. Happy eating. See ya. That was a hit gum podcast.