Doughboys - Tony Roma's with Bug Mane

Episode Date: January 19, 2017

The elusive and eccentric Bug Mane (???) stops by the podcast to review his home state of Florida favorite, Tony Roma's, aka "a place for ribs". Naturally, Star Wars is also under discussion. Mitch, Wiger, and Bug review KFC's Nashville Hot Chicken in another edition of The Leftovers.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

February 3, 2008 Super Bowl 42 saw the undefeated New England Patriots match up with a heavy underdog New York Giants. But the scrappy Eli Manning-led Giants were themselves giant killers, defeating the Pats at one of the greatest upsets in sports history, touring Tom Brady's team with a record that still needles Patriots fans to this day. 18 and 1. The Patriots had hoped to become only the second team in NFL history go undefeated for

an entire season, but their championship defeat meant only one American football franchise boasts that pristine legacy, the 1972 Miami Dolphins. The NFL, the City of Miami, and the year 1972 are all inextricably linked to a casual sit-down chain that opened in the Florida City that same year. The owner, who named the restaurant after himself, had cut his teeth in the food service industry by managing one of Hugh Hefner's then popular Playboy Clubs. Originally a burger joint slash steakhouse, the addition of baby back ribs to the menu gave it its much-needed hook, a sit-down restaurant that served a southern backyard cookout favorite.

The original location became a frequent hangout of Miami Dolphins players and staff, leading the owner of a rival football franchise, the Dallas Cowboys Clint Merchison Jr., to acquire a majority steak in the restaurant after staying in Miami for Super Bowl X. The exponential growth of the NFL into America's unofficial national pastime over the next 40 years paralleled the rib joints expansion across the U.S. and across the globe. Though unlike the NFL, its popularity ultimately became more global than domestic as a favorite American chain in Asia and the Middle East. Of its 120 restaurants worldwide, only 20 of those locations are in the States, where

the chain receded at a rate matching its global expansion. Will this place for ribs ultimately collapse at the end like Bill Belichick's 18-1 Patriots? Or will it become immortal, like Don Shula's 17-0 Dolphins? This week on Doughboys, Tony Romas. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. We're a part of Ferrellaudio.com. I'm Nick Weigar, alongside a Peabody Award winner and the brother of a writer for impractical jokers, Mike Mitchell the Spoon Man.

Fuck you. Why do you, I mean, you can fuck off with that Patriot shit up top. They're gonna forever be remembered for having an undefeated season. They had an undefeated season and they build it again. I know, you don't have to tell me what happened. But it is interestingly connected to Tony Romas and the Miami Dolphins. No, it's not. That was the biggest stretch I've ever heard in my life.

It's not that big of a stretch. By the way, that was another edition of Joe Spoon Man. That's the last one I'm gonna do. I think I'm running out of ways to riff on Colin Joe's name. That's the last Joe Spoon Man you're gonna do? Yeah, I think I'm running out of ways to differently introduce him. Joe Spoon Man? Yes.

I think the 23 is about the max they've hit. I thought, honestly, I thought one was pushing it. Anyways, I just wanna say, what's up? To Spoon Nation. What's up? That's your new thing? You looked at me angry, our guest is angry, but it makes sense that our guest is angry because I'll introduce him, not yet.

I won't introduce him yet. But we're back here in the new year. We're getting back on the training. I mean, this is our third episode of the new year, but this is the first one we're recording in 2017. Yeah. Do you like what's up instead of Howdy Ho? Yeah, why not?

Mix it up a little bit. Anyways, here's a drop. Maybe I'll stop doing drops, huh? I just wanna say, The Force Awakens sucks. Howdy ho, Spoon Nation. Fuck, motherfucker, motherfucker, motherfucker, motherfucker, motherfucker. Today I'm reviewing Giniot's 4 Cheese frozen pizza. That's 5.99 encrogeries, I've tried it before.

Our guest is mad. Sense his size through vibrations. It can hear every move we make, especially on this rock, it's a perfect conductor. What? That means we're stuck. That pisses me off. Okay. That pisses me off.

That pisses me off. Who is mad special? Victory is mine. Oh, boy. Lot of fun. Maybe you should stop doing drops. Maybe we should stop doing the podcast in general. That was from Ad Byerly.

Oh, okay. Ad Byerly. A-D-B-Y-E-R-L-Y. Thanks, Ad. Am I saying his name right? How else would you say it? It could be A-D, I guess. No, but it's not a capital A, capital D.

Yeah, if it's a capital A lowercase D, I think it's Ad. How else would you say it? Yeah, I guess that's it. Anyways, we're back. We're back. We're back. We're getting on the roller coaster one more time. That's why I feel every year.

A well-oiled machine. That's why I feel every year at the New Year. It's just, again, I try to do it again. One more try. One more ride around the Big Thunder Mountain or whatever your roller coaster of choice is. In the New Year, I get to ask some people, because I don't want to talk about the cats all the time, but I want to give an update. They're trying to get outside the two of them.

I don't know if anyone has any cat remedies, because the two cats are trying to get outside. How to keep them confined to your apartment? Every time I go, I mean, they're excited to see me, I think, as part of it. They come and they give me love, which I love them. I actually was telling them, I guess this the other day. I love them more than anyone else on earth. Sure. Any human being on earth.

More than your mommy? No, my mom and sister, I guess. Right. I love them as much as my mom. Do you think part of the reason they're trying to bolt outside is because they've basically lived an existence akin to the main characters in the room? Or room, whatever that movie was called. Was it room or the room?

You're trying to say that I fuck them? No. Well, no, I wasn't going that dark with it. I'm just sort of saying like their whole world has been a small confined space. It's a small room, but for a cat, I feel like that's a big space, right? I honestly don't know. I don't know. I feel like if I was living in basically a basketball stadium, like in terms of just

ratio of your body size to the size of your habitat, if I was like living in Staple Center. You'd want to get out. I think I'd eventually want to get out because I think I'd run out of things to do. The difference is that you wouldn't step outside Staple Center and die immediately. Right. Like they most likely would if they left my house. Yeah, I'm not saying you're wrong to keep them in there. I'm just saying.

Yeah. That might be what the urge is all about. I mean, they're getting curious a little bit. I maybe have to go to a new place in the new apartment. Cats are getting curious. Yes. And you know what happened? You know the saying.

Mm-hmm. Anyways, should we get to this? Let's get to our guest. He goes by one name. We're very excited to have him in there. He's buzzing in. We're going to continue this. This guy, this is like the green goblin of my spoon-ister six.

Oh, and speaking of the green goblin. Let's introduce him with this clip from Spider-Man. A Freak Like Me needs company live on David Letterman. Why settle for one ridiculously over-the-top supervillage when you could have seven? Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, the sinister sins. All right. We should explain to people who are maybe joy listening to the podcast for the first time because we do have a, we do have new listeners.

They're probably baffled by this. They probably turned it off already. Yeah, I'm sure. So we don't need to do this. Good. Because this has been a disaster. But this is a run of six guests consecutive that you are booking, Mitch. Because I'll give them some background to it.

Yeah. One day Nick was like, it's hard to book guests. And you started crying. I said, it's easy. Let me do it. It wasn't quite that simple. And then you said, so long as you don't book Bugmane, who is now here with us today, that's our guest is Bugmane.

And first off, I want to give my side, which is that this largely came from you going, you get to book all the guests. They don't get to have my friends on, which we do have a lot of your friends on. That's not a one. It's not a one way. It's not just me doing it. All of it. I like our guest.

Are you trying to say I don't like our guest? I like all of them. You've complained about our guests on the podcast. I like all of our guests from A to Z. I like them all. All right. Great. Well, we've had no problems.

No divisions. There's our guests. So far, I love this. You have a cold going. You sound different than you usually do. I'm getting over a cold. I have a little bit of congestion that's working with me. I don't like it.

You sound strange. Should I walk out? I can leave. Like that famous HBO TV movie, Walk Out. What is that? You don't remember Walk Out? No. What is Walk Out?

This has been so awkward. Let's introduce him because you said his name and he's just been sitting here. He's from Funny or Die. He's one of the men behind Adult Swims, Lords of Synth, which was very, very funny. You may know him by his professional name, but we know him as Bug Main. Ladies and gentlemen, Bug Main. Hey, everyone. It's me, a Bug Main, Biz Biz.

This will be the most... We knew going into this... It's me. It's me, Bug Main. This is going to be the most controversial. It seems like Bug Main is just liking hearing his voice over and over again into the microphone. It's Sam Witwicky. The Decepticons have unleashed Bug Main.

Oh, boy. It's me, Bug Main. Bug, thanks so much for being here. It's great to be here. I'm thrilled to have you. I'm friends with both of you. Yeah, we're friends. We worked together for quite some time.

Man. I feel like we know each other pretty well. You knew Liger longer than you knew me, actually. Much longer. You're right. I have no idea why I haven't been on. We want... Okay, here.

We want to have you on. We want to have you on. Okay. You are an interesting guy. You have very strong opinions. You're probably the most opinionated man I know. Maybe I'm here to shake it up a little bit. I think you are here to shake it up.

I think you're coming to the podcast in the right time. It does need to shake it. We're in a rut. We've been in a rut for like a year. What are you talking about? You don't think we're in a rut? I thought that we've been doing all right. I think it's been mostly bad.

A bunch of bullshit. Here's what I was going to say. Here's the reason, and it was largely my stubbornness, but also some logistical issues, because you got a bunch of preconditions on your appearance, which thankfully you have waved for this one. You have been very gracious in terms of how you're going to be a part of this podcast. You kind of serendipitously found Tony Roma's. Originally, I wanted to do something like the Tilted Kilt. You had so many...

He wanted to do a naughty restaurant. The way it was pitched to me... Wiger calls it. Yes. A restaurant. A restaurant. The way it was pitched to me is that you wanted to do Tilted Kilt, and you wanted to... You would only do it if we recorded in the restaurant.

That's right. I think specifically you wanted to go to the location where there was the biker shootout. Yes. I want... Yes, exactly. In Texas, there was a biker shootout about six dead at Tilted Kilt. If we were to have gone exactly to that location live, recording live, I thought that would have been the controversy this podcast needs.

My next suggestion that we go to Comet Pizza in Washington, D.C., or at least get one of their slices FedEx to us to try it out, I'm here to... Nick, I was coming. I'm here to razz it up. Are you suggesting I'm a part of the pizza gate? I mean... That I'm doing spirit cooking? I'm complacent in that?

No, I have to... Look, first off, that conspiracy is crazy, but also, even if it was real, there's no way I would be involved in it. Well, you would have gotten the heads if we would have gone. You know what I'm talking about? I am genuinely curious as to how the pizza is at Comet Pizza, because I think it's only been talked about through the prism of like it's the center of this global hub of child traffic.

If it truly is terrible, then we know if it's great, that pretty much just wipes us late clean. Yeah, I guess we do have to try Comet Pizza at some point. Right. Maybe Bugman maybe will take you with us to Comet Pizza. Also, Bugman, you stole my Spoon Man hat that Alan Yang gave me. A very nice gift that I liked a lot. Buzz, buzz. And you said, you would give it back to me when we recorded the podcast, yet here we

are, you forgot the hat. I still have it. You've had it for a while. I do all sorts of mischief things, don't I? You are a mischief maker, and speaking of mischief, you brought us all Pabst blue ribbon tall boys. I wanted you guys to loosen up on this very controversial and memorable episode. We're going to get a little saucy here. I'm going to crack open this PBR tall boy.

I opened mine already. There you go. Nice open wire. I'm going to have a little bit of this Brew Dog on air and we'll see what it goes. I don't know if you should do that if you're getting off of cold, but whatever. Really? You don't think so? No, you probably should.

Your voice still... You know, everyone made fun of me. I did the Ad Drop solo. Yeah. And why... Who showed me that? Was it Susser? Did I just see it?

Anyways, they said that someone claimed that they cut my voice up so that I didn't stutter. Oh, like it was clear that you would stutter reading the copy in the end? Which made me... Wait, did they do that? I don't know if they did do that or not. They did some audio wizardry. Do you know that Dustin, was there any engineering done on that? Do you have any idea?

So Mitch did some solo ad reads for Blue Apron. I think he recorded them on his phone in his car. And he's wondering if there was any audio editing to those. So they read it a little bit. They thought they were listening... Oh wait, they did edit it? They thought that Kirk Douglas was doing those ads. Wait, was it because I stuttered, Dustin?

Oh, they sucked the air out of it. Okay. It wasn't stuttering. Wait, we didn't do your boys podcast. Well, this is why we were afraid to have Bugman on the show. That's why they call it Spartacus. This is why we were afraid to have this man on our show. Well, look, I might go to Comet Pizza when I travel for the Trump Inauguration, which I have a ticket for.

Oh, Jesus Christ. So we're recording this on Monday. This episode will be out on this Thursday, the 19th, the 20th is Trump's Inauguration. You're planning on attending. I have a golden ticket. I have the golden ticket. Standing Room only, which I thought maybe would be the sacrifice pen if we were to go there. It's 100% as the sacrifice.

It's the non-celebrity. If you're going to do something, you do it there. I can see that. I can't wait to turn on the TV and see Bugman's arm fly by and a giant explosion. No, no, no, no. Don't worry. Don't worry. You'll be fine. I'm going to be. Bugman is going to come out of this A-OK. Listen, Bugman is an opinionated man that we said this up top.

But you got to admire him because he does say what he thinks. He says what he thinks he sticks to his guns even when it's unpopular. In this new age, there's not a lot of people who do that in this time. I think there's no shortage of people who will just stick to their opinion no matter what. I think that's pretty common. I will say that Bug is particularly persuasive and persistent. He will just keep coming at you. Bugman, we should let it be known that you love the prequels.

Right now, I'm actually wearing a hoodie jacket with the entire tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise written across my chest. Are you familiar? Did you get a custom made? Are you familiar with Darth Plagueis the Wise? Is this an episode three when it's talked about? This is, of course, it's Emperor Palpatine. Well, have you ever heard the tragedy of Palpatine, Darth?

Have you ever heard of it? Yeah, I've heard it. I thought not. I have heard about it from you. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a dark lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise. He could use the force to influence the midichlorians that created life.

You know that? Yeah. So he could create life? Out of the midi... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. Wow. The dark side of the Force's pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural. Well, he became so powerful.

The only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. It's ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself. This is now just straight dialogue. Is there... So there's this... There's like a little...

This is an episode three audio book, pretty much. It's a very good reading. Thank you. I think that the prequels, of course, are on par with the original trilogy. You have six, right? Now there's going to be 80, 90... It only highlights that there's only two trilogies, and they start with 20th Century Fox before them. Which trilogy do you like?

The first one, the second one, or the octal ability of 80 of them afterward? There's no finite. I don't even know why they created episodes the next three ones, if they're going to have so many. Well, because once they started with episode seven, and they haven't... So far, chronologically, there's still like seven, eight, and nine would be chronologically a trilogy, and then the other movies they're talking about would go back in time. And then 10, 11, 12, 13, and then at what point are they even... Yeah, exactly.

It's going to be like, what's that fantasy series, The Wheel of Time, that I think is still going after the author, Robert Jordan, died, and they've written like so many books of them. They're all like 900 pages. Yeah, it'll just be an ongoing thing. It'll be like, I think we mentioned in our previous podcast, it'll be like James Bond. It'll just be like a franchise that keeps going, and they'll make them and they'll recast things, and some will be good, and some will be bad. I will say this, that you are...

People will criticize you for having this opinion, but you are a huge fan of Star Wars. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I appreciate that this is a world I've never been to before, and George Lucas is the only one that could give that to me. I thought that he was dealt a bad hand, and I feel for old George. It is kind of shitty. I agree with you this, and I want to say one thing real quick before I get to this point. One thing is that you are one of the people who convinced me to rewatch the prequels with an open mind,

you as well as Charles Ingram, and I rewatched them within the past few years and formulated my current opinion, which is that the prequels are not bad. I disagree with you that they're on par with the original trilogy, but I like the prequels on balance, so I'm glad they exist. The plot points are perfect if you look at the plot points. Then you look at it as a radio play or a serial. Then when you watch the original trilogy, they only appear to you as these solid memories, these visual memories, and they actually work as memories maybe even better than they do as films themselves,

because they're so visual and so some would say stagnant or dry, but they're delivering this incredible formalistic view, which is what if David Lean was in space or Curacao was in space? This is formalism with an added irony of a world that we've never seen, and now that irony is gone. It's completely gone. So I'm happy that you watched the prequels, and I implore everyone listening that they should rewatch the prequels, and think of George Lucas now as a martyr like the Christ, who now has taken everything for our sins. We put them all on him, and now he's just going to do his museum, and he's like… Lucas is kind of like a fat Christ in a lot of ways. Physically?

Yeah. Kind of resembles him. Also, I was thinking when some of these movies are made, it's almost, we were talking about this, it's like if you added little parts to the Bible, like little adventures that happened around the crucifixion or something, like meanwhile, they were trying to get plans for how to get them off the cross. You didn't see when the little boy Joe teamed up with the kid at the shop, and they tried to figure it out. That's kind of what they're doing now. It's all fun, but you know what the Bible is. The greatest story of all time is the Bible.

You're right. We all agree on that. We all agree. We all love the Bible. By the way, it's a good work of fiction. What? It's a perfectly good fairy tale. Now that's something even Bugman can't get on board with. Man, get out of here.

Here's what I'm going to say. I'm pretty crazy. Not that crazy. Bugman don't shit on God. No way. That's one line he doesn't cross. I know JC. He knows me. It's like ABC.

I have no idea what even you think of God, and I don't actually want to know. But I will say this. Yes. Bugman read that, right? He read the Darth Plagueis thing, and I just want to say that I can read without stuttering. I'm an actor. You're back on the ad now. But I just want to say I can read a fucking thing.

I can read a thing. Right. You were very upset because I think someone, I think you texted me a comment from the subreddit or something where someone... Someone thought you couldn't read. Yes. Someone thinks I can't read. You can read. I can read.

That's like, yeah, that's the... Bug, you know I can read. You're not a fool. I mean, look, you're in now the radio profession. It's the one thing that you probably have to do is know how to read. It's not a read. See? So...

Wait, hold on. Do you think that we're in the radio profession from here on out? Yeah, I guess. What is this? I don't know. I don't know what this is. We're in a room now. Is there people?

I don't know. Here's what I was going to say about Lucas earlier. I think, I agree with you, I wouldn't go so far as to call him a Christ figure, but I agree with you that I think it's kind of shitty. You wouldn't? No. Okay. But I think it's kind of shitty when people say that people are like, eh, fuck Lucas. Or like, oh, we fixed your movie, old man.

Like, oh, thank God Lucas had nothing to do with episode seven. Because it's like, well, he fucking made this thing. It's like, no one's like, fuck Tolkien. Well, look, Tolkien should suck a dick. I think God, he wasn't involved in the new Hobbit trilogy. I settled, I think I've settled the prequels. Are there any other things that you guys are open for? Is there any other battles that Bugman can settle for you guys?

Because I think I have a pretty definitive opinion on almost anything, worldly. I disagree with you on a lot of stuff. No, but is there anything between, I don't watch, I don't listen to the show. Oh, between the two of us? Any beefs you can squash? Anything that, you know, Old Bugman can help out with. We had a pretty thorough beef squashing, I feel like, in the aftermath of 2016. I think we're kind of coming in with a relatively clean.

Like, do we have any pending beefs? No, not really. Opinions that need answering. I mean, I don't know when you're going to get mad at some point or whatever. Right. I mean, it would probably make you happier thinking about how much better it is to podcast with me than it is with Bugman. How about movies?

The Academy Awards? We're probably on, we both like Allied and Sully. Okay. Big Sully fan. I'm a Sully through and through. Sully's great. Sully's a classic film. It's just a movie.

It's just like, yeah. And it becomes art when they show the simulations five times in a row. Oh man, I love that. That's actually like an art film. I love that. I like that too. With the different pilots and each, Every time.

Birds. Cockpit. Birds. Yeah. Birds. It was not a great year for movies. We talked about that a little bit on here. Here's the thing.

We all like Rogue One. There's one that I think you have a strong opinion, which is similar to Mitch's, which is episode seven, The Force Awakens. The Force Awakens, it just doesn't make any sense. I don't know who these people are. They spend no time. I very, very, I came out of the,

We were all dumbfounded by this film. I mean, you're talking about lens flares and moving the camera. You're not supposed to do this. I mean, it's the formalism. It goes against everything that I believe in, I guess, For Star Wars and The Force Awakens. I hate it. I hate it.

Certainly shot in a different way than the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy. Why is every movie like this now? I don't know. It's a good question. Well, I had a theory. This is a theory that I always tell people, and it could be, look at it as a metaphor.

It's a metaphor. Imagine the Matrix. We all woke up on around 9-11. When that event happened. This is a real theory. Yes. Is this the Mandela Effect? What is this one?

No, no, no. This is a bug main original theory. We all are in the Matrix up until 9-11. We all wake up. This is when, in the Matrix, the films, which I believe in the Matrix revolutions, is that they gave us a history that maybe already happened. Maybe it didn't already happen,

but that's what we're dealing with. We were given a history before 9-11 that now we almost like Atlas or something, or like the guy going up the damn hill. He can't ever go over the hill like a Greek mythology. We are bound to repeat forever. Every cultural event that happened before 9-11. So now we're stuck with only piecing together

stranger things is kind of like E.T. What if Transformers was a toy that I heard of, or maybe there was a thing called Star Wars. We're all scrambling to piece together these things that all happened in our like little implanted history. It's kind of a nostalgia overload in the aftermath of this. Exactly. But can it also be clear that you also literally think

we were in a Matrix bubble? That is as possible as anything. That we're in a dark city, you know, dark city, they'd wake up and they thought that they had a whole life, and then they're figuring it out. But metaphorically, it shaped us such to our core the same way that the bombs shaped Japan's culture to their core, that they became completely different afterward.

That now we are completely different culturally ever since this insane event that psychologically affected 100% of Americans on one day. There is something to, because I saw a tweet that kind of, and I, you know, again, wouldn't go so far as to say that we were knocked out of a simulation by the towers going down, but I would say that... You can't say that. You say you hate God, you can't say that.

God is my favorite fictional character. Really? More than R2 and a few others? Yeah, R2-D2 Homer Simpson number one God. He's just as fake as they are. Odysseus was real. Yeah, but I get what you're saying because someone made this point, and I can't remember who tweeted it, but it was basically saying that we'd made,

if you look at the top box office, we've been making the same four movies since 9-11. Harry Potter, Spider-Man, Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. We need it. It's like the top of the box office every year. You know when a kid can't get rid of their blanket? You're 11, you wipe your ass with that blanket. Why can't you get rid of the blanket?

We now, we held on to the blanket even tighter than we've ever dreamed of. See, I like my blanket, but I like to be alone in my house with my blanket, and I don't need to see anybody else. So that's my own little world. You know what I'm saying? I'm not bothering anyone with my blanket. Well, you have a real blanket and the metaphorical, cultural blanket that we all share together

in a big old bed, like... You tried to convince me of this. You said, think about everything since September 11, 2001. Hasn't it all been, like, bad and sucked? And I was like, I guess so. Yeah, but how much of that is just, like, life in general? Except apocalypto, maybe. But that's because he went to the history books

that they gave us. Oh, God, we're not going to talk about Mel Gibson on this podcast. I refuse to let it happen. He came out bigger than ever. Hacksaw Ridge, baby. Oh, Jesus Christ. You like Hacksaw Ridge. Don't pretend you don't. I loved... I did. I liked Hacksaw Ridge a lot.

We can separate the art from the artist. I haven't seen Hacksaw Ridge, but... Nick, you love sugar tits, right? What? Like the person he's referring to by the majority of sugar tits? I just meant, in general, you love sugar tits. Oh, I like the phrase sugar tits. You love the phrase sugar tits.

Yeah, I pepper it into my language all the time. You do. Mel fucked up in a lot of ways. He fucked up bad. What can you say? He went on a little secret journey that we don't know about where he found himself. I was talking about this with Charles the other day.

I think there was a little secret journey he went on, just if anyone was thinking if he didn't go on a little secret personal journey, he did. But also, he brought it. He's not going to win anything for it, but we weren't ready for Mel to come back

in that way. I'm just saying, add that to the list of sullies for crying out loud. Hacksaw is in my top 10 of this year for sure. Maybe in my top five. Mel is a very good director. I feel like the Mel Gibson directed films are all worth watching.

He's an interesting voice in cinema. I just wish he wasn't some sort of virulent anti-Semite. Yes, that's the big hurdle. Maybe he came to his own place. Yeah, maybe he got past that. People change. I think that's an issue with this world is that we have to

forgive people and accept and move on. I've talked about it on like Jesus Christ. Sure. Let's not compare Mel Gibson to Jesus Christ. Right. Us.

I think as far as redemption is concerned the Star Wars prequels maybe consider that. Let's not turn this into the Mel Gibson redemption podcast though. Speaking of... Could that be a weekly podcast? Every week you're trying to get people back on Mel Gibson's side.

Yo, you hear what he did today? Oh my God, man. It was so inclusive. He threw a premiere. Man, this guy's giving money to everyone. Like three months out of starting that podcast there would be a major setback. He'd have some sort of outburst or something.

He'd get pulled over for speeding. Get a DUI and then say something else Mel Gibson Boys is not going to have a next episode. Mel Gibson Boys are farewell. Goodbye. Send off.

Mel Gibson Boys, you're not going to see us anymore. We would just change our name to Mel Gibson Boys. God, we should not do that. That would be a disaster. Here's the thing with Nick. See what happens when Bug Main comes to the studio? Hold on. First of all, I don't know if this is any better than any episode

we've ever known. It might be our worst episode. I also don't think it makes any less sense than most of our episodes. That's true. We're mostly just saying nonsense here. We're babbling about nothing. We're both pretty...

Besides the Spoon-ist or Six, which all this stuff is the stuff that Nick was rolling his eyes at, I do want my Spoon Man hat back, by the way. Give it to me. Bizz, bizz, man. Bizz, bizz. That's what the Bug Main do.

Bizz, bizz, bizz. I think that this proves on the view is that you should... Nick is a talented guy. In short, he has his rough edges and he may be hard to take, but...

Bug Main, you mean? You said Nick. But I will take the compliment. No, I mean Bug Main. Who knows what his real name is? But he's a very talented guy. He's an artist. One of the funniest guys. And you take the rough edges with...

You take it all and you appreciate it. And that's what you should do with me, too. I see. I see what you're doing here. I see what your game is, Mitchell. You have an issue with that, Bug Main? It's truth. People get afraid of the guys who are a little bit... Oh, no, he's a wild card.

Maybe we should embrace some of those guys. You've lent everything to me, Sam Witwicky. Maybe not. Never mind. But you guys are difficult in different ways. I would say that you are... Yes, but then that's why we are bonded as one. We're peas in a pod.

Yeah, I get that. You're peas in a pod, but you're different kind of peas. Like, Mitch is a much bigger, lumpier pea. Damn! No, Mitch, you're a guy like... You're both very talented men. There's a reason people want to work with you is because you're good at what you do.

Mitch, you're... I'd say you're someone who you have bouts of laziness and you have issues with being on time and with getting stuff done. And Bug Main, I would say you are just a wild man.

Like, you are just a loose cannon. Much like Mel Gibson and the original lethal weapon. Hey, Bug Nation, you out there? What's up? 1,800 555 Bug. But you're just an unpredictable Bug Main. Well, one was too few numbers.

The second one was too many numbers. Do you want to watch Bug fuck some putty? Okay. Jesus Christ. Alright, so, no, good. I mean, we're, what, a half an hour and that's how long it took to get to that, so that's okay. This is great.

I took over the reins of the podcasts. I'm booking these guests. Yes, you're doing a good job. I'm not that late. Don't get on this side of me being this... I sometimes... I maybe try to bite off more than I can chew. Maybe I can't chew that much, you know what I mean?

I think you can chew a lot. You fucking damn. You sick fuck. No, I mean, like, here's... But part of it, Mitch, though, is that you are... I would also say you're not necessarily a self-starter. Like, I feel like if someone gives you something to do, you will get it done, but you're not someone

who necessarily takes initiative on your own. But that's true, but I don't like... I like to do... I like working with people. Yeah, you like to do things. I am a people person. Well, maybe we'll have you continue to book the podcast. We'll see where this goes. This is what happens on the show.

This is what happens on the show. This is exactly what happens on the show. You just got the whip. Okay. We were talking about nostalgia earlier and that kind of ties in with this week's chain. You are a Florida native. You're from Miami.

And you... We didn't know this until we went into the restaurant. The three of us went in there this past Friday. But Tony Roma's this week's chain is originated in Miami. So this was a childhood favorite of yours and you didn't realize you were going to the original Tony Roma's.

Apparently, yeah. I asked specifically, or you asked, but I told you guys about a specific dessert that I remembered from my childhood called the Dirt Cup. The Dirt Cup. It might be weird that a bug man would like the Dirt, but I really did. It was apparently a little mousse

chocolatey pudding with some cookie crumbles on top and they put little gummy worms inside. They do not have the Dirt Cup anymore, but our waiter so kindly referenced that apparently the Dirt Cup was one of their all-time favorite desserts

from the original Tony Roma's in Miami, which I came from. He gave so much history about it and it was funny because you were telling me about the Dirt Cup before we got there and then you talked to him about Nick and then we finally asked the guy and he knew everything about the Dirt Cup.

He gave us a rundown of the Dirt Cup and why it didn't work anymore. He loved the Dirt Cup. He loved the Dirt Cup. He had been at Tony Roma's for a while, our server. It sounded like he'd been working there about a decade. But he was a little Tony Roma's encyclopedia.

I mean, he'd gotten some on-the-job training of their history. I'm trying to look up his name here on my phone. I liked him. Our server. He was a good guy. Drew. We went to the Universal City Walk location. Drew was our server. He was great. As for Drew. He was also from Massachusetts. He recognized your Red Sox.

But he rooted for the Cleveland Indians. Yeah, weirdly, an Indian. A Pat's fan, but an Indian's fan. He was over-apologetic. I think Bug Main was saying he was like Gill or something from The Simpsons. I mean, it was one of those things where... Gill's like a pathetic guy. He wasn't a pathetic guy. No, no, no.

I wasn't trying to say pathetic. You could tell that he maybe had some other things going on and he kind of mentioned on again, off again for a decade, almost to say I haven't been... Oh, maybe I wasn't here the whole decade. He had some little excuses of his sleeve and he had little spiky kind of hair and, you know, maybe he was...

when he was back in the day, maybe he was like the Tony Roma's guy when City Walk was first built. He could have been the guy getting the babes, you know, and now he's sort of talking to us about how he misses the Dirt Cup. Right. To three guys that are doing a podcast.

We're talking about him now. Drew loves the Dirt Cup. Drew would be happy to know we're talking about him. He was great. He had a lot of knowledge about it. He knew all about Bug's Dirt Cup, which Bug was so excited to hear. Wow. Both of you guys had never even eaten at a Tony Roma's. I'd never been to Tony Roma's.

I'd never been to Tony Roma's either. It was a place that I always saw in my hometown and then for whatever reason my parents never wanted to go. I don't know why. Bugman, let's be honest. Your home state of Florida is a trash state. Wow.

Whoo! Look, it's a... Miami is different than Florida. So Miami is the place that's the cosmopolitan pit bull. Jay Lowe, Sylvester Stallone Baby on Hollywood. I'm not...

You got John Kerry walking the streets in Boston. John Kerry's walking around this guy. You got Norm from Cheers. You got Terrible. I would never would Boston. They never would dream to go to Boston. They got the Glory Statue

from Glory is the only other thing. It's got a... You're a history guy. You sit... You've told me before that you sit in your house and we both like to sit in little cave houses or little apartments. I watch a lot of history. You watch a lot of history and Boston is

rich in history. It's rich, but they don't pay any attention to it. You know, it's this tiny place and there's the thing. I mean, whatever. A bug is above this. Boston is great and Miami is great. How about that? I agree with you. I was giving a hard time. I used to love... When I was a boy

I used to love going down to Florida. Disney World is like a... Disney World in Orlando is one of the... most beautiful, magical places as a child. And Boston is super magical. All the drunk goddamn Irish out there goddamn can't get the ball out of

their mouth, you know? You would fit in great up there. Both magical. You came, you walked into the studio tonight drinking a beer. You would fit perfectly in Boston. You brought enough for everybody, which was very nice. Are you trying to stick up for him?

No, I'm just saying. Like, yes, you would fit in. But here's the thing. And Bug Main, I feel like would fit in anywhere. I think you're kind of a... To reference, catch me if you can. You're kind of a Frank Abagnale junior type character. I've been known. I've conned some people in my day. You've done some real conned. I've conned people.

I consider myself sort of a charlatan, a con artist in certain respects. You know, because people... When you look at them and you start talking to them, maybe they're weak. Maybe I'm conning you guys right now. Hey, are you going to take over our puck?

Bug Nation. A new bug every week. We'll talk about a new insect. Here's the Bug Main con I remember. The Bug Main con I remember is that the few years ago Florida State was in the... where you went to college was in the

the National Championship game. Was it at the Rose Bowl? Oh yeah, it was at the Rose Bowl. I just drove down. I said I'm going to get in. You didn't have a ticket. You just went. I went and I hung out. Abagnaled my way into the press area and then I snuck right in the first row

of the thing. But I mean there's a lot of... If you guys don't remember, Bug Main started. He was the starting quarterback. The back of his jersey said Maine. Get on the... Maine! Get on the field, Maine! I feel bad. I didn't mean to make fun of Florida. I like Florida a lot.

It's a great area. I... I... I like... I love Florida. Florida is a beautiful place. I thought L.A. was going to be like Florida when I moved. I really thought L.A. We love America, just like President like Donald J. Trump. This is what he does.

He knows that this is bad. Everyone who's listening to the podcast. He knows this is bad. Which makes it funny. That's why it's funny. Yeah. This is what I tell myself. Just let me tell myself this. I'm never quite sure.

Bug like with Armand. I'm never quite sure if... I feel like there's no artifice. I've never felt like there's any sort of put-on. These are just like weird individuals. And this is just how they behave. I know this is weird to talk to you like this. Well, I mean, you specifically like the Force Awakens.

Right. I do like the Force Awakens. And then I rest my case. I think I... See how that works? Evil than anything old bug ever said. I don't think you... No, I...

But it's with the same amount of sincerity. Right. I might be the least weird of the three of us. It's possible I'm the least weird of us three. Yeah, I think you're the most relatable. I think you're the closest to being an everyman. Yeah. Wait, that seems insulting. No, I'm not trying to insult. I'm just saying you're relatable.

I feel like people can see themselves and Mitch the most of the three of us. You're an average Joe. Steak and potatoes. I'm kind of a detached Ivory Tower elite. And Bugmayne, I'd say, is kind of... You crawl around in the dirt. Chaotic neutral imp over there.

What goes on up in that Ivory Tower of yours? A whole lot of jacking off. Yeah. Ivory or... That's why it's Ivory. You're jacking off in your tower. All right, so Tony Romas. We went there. Who is Tony Roma?

He was a guy. He named the restaurant after himself. He was a Florida businessman. He's dead as a doornail. He's dead. He worked at a... Yeah, Drew informed us that he was dead. He worked at the Playboy Club, which was Hugh Hefner used to have a chain of basically restaurants and bars

that were membership only that had Playboy bunnies as the wait staff. And he managed one of those. And then he moved on to open his own restaurant, Tony Romas. Wait, Playboy bunnies were the wait staff? Yeah, that was the whole thing behind the Playboy Club is that you would go there. They're not necessarily like they'd been in the magazine,

but they were women costing like Playboy bunnies. Like the Tilted Kilt. Like a Hooters. It's like a prototype of one of those. It was like these buxom women in these risque outfits. It's because Playboy is now there are no nude pictures in Playboy anymore, right? Apparently in the print edition, they took them out.

Oh, so online it still is? I don't know. I mean, I don't think anyone buys Playboy. Who's getting their porn from Playboy.com in 2017? I mean, people buy it. It's like Maxim or something. Yeah, right.

Aren't they shutting down the man? It seems like the saddest end for Hugh Hefner is like his mansion is going away. They upgraded to layer out the magazines when you're at the cabin or your parent's house where you find a way to do it. That's what they have upgraded to. So it's a way.

It became a Kmart lingerie ad magazine or something. That's so weird. That's very strange to me. When I was in Boy Scouts, we went up to this cabin to stay for snow vacay. I don't remember for what reason

we were going to the snow. I guess it was a Boy Scout ski trip. But we went up to the cabin with my troop 29 every year and there was this very religious man who owned the cabin and would just let the Boy Scout stay there. He wasn't there. He was just like, you guys can stay there because I believe in you or whatever. And in the bathroom...

I want all the boys to stay in my house. Can you let the boy, especially the little blonde boy, there? Oh, there's no shortage of that sort of suspect stuff going on in the Boy Scouts of America. That's an organization I have some real issues with. But anyway, we went there and in the bathroom

above the very, very up high. You had to get on a step still to reach it. But in the bathroom at the very top, there was a single boy. It was like the Playboy Nudes Edition where just all the women were wearing no clothes whatsoever. Wait, who was...this is the priest's cabin?

Yeah, this is like...I don't know if he was a priest or whatever. He's a very religious man. I left you something. Right, it was just like a little tree. It was like a little easter egg and all the Scouts knew about it. And so I just remember everyone taking turns to go into the bathroom and then to climb up on the step stool and to open this cabin. You hear creaking

from outside with the door closed and taking out this Playboy and just thumbing through it. I left you guys a treasure map. Right. Did you find the treasure? Treasure is up there. But that was one of my first encounters with print pornography was seeing it in a Boy Scout trip in some weird old man's cabin.

First and last. Swore off the stuff after that. I would...two things. One, I would get lowrider magazines and write...I'd find out what their name was and lowrider and write a little fan fiction about whatever that model

was in the Drizzellies Perez or whatever. I'd be like, then Drizzellies like took the motorcycle up to Nick's house up to little buggy boys little Annick Hive. And then I'd write it out and read it and that would stimulate my

imagination. The other thing was I one time rented strip tees and then filled myself on blue screen and added myself into the crowd of Demi Moore's strip club. So then when I'd watch it I was like I was there like

there's me there's little bug little buggy boy watching to me. This is more work than anyone has ever done to masturbate. There's so much work. There's something so beautiful in the most for the most nothing thing

that you do the most possible it's you like the chase. Wait, that wasn't a nothing. You did so much work. There's a lot of that though. But I remember we went up to a cabin in Maine. My dad and his work friend he had two daughters and I was just thinking about this

and it was strange and I was like 10 and I remember like taking my glass. I didn't want the girls to see me with my glasses because I wore big glasses when I was younger. I also had lazy eyes. Did I ever tell this on the podcast? I don't know. I don't remember this specific story. The teacher went to my mom and she thought that I was slow.

You had the patch? The teacher thought that I was that I have learning issues and they said there's something wrong with him and it turned out that I was just extremely nearsighted. I think that's pretty common. I think people sometimes mistake a learning disability for a vision issue with young kids.

Yeah, I was extremely nearsighted and I had a lazy eye and so I had to get a patch when I was a kid. They thought I was going to be blind in one eye actually. I almost went blind in one eye. You would have never experienced avatar. I never would have been able to see avatar in all its 3D glory.

You know what's funny is that let alone Toruk the avatar experience the Cirque du Soleil adventure. I'm happy I haven't seen that. I know that you guys all went as a crew at one point but I'm happy I did not see that. I can't still to this day do magic eye. I can't do it.

I've always struggled with that too. I can never do it. Bug, can you do magic eye? One of the old pastimes of Bugman was magic eye. Wow. Man, I had those magic eye books. You know out there

if you give magic eye comes naturally to you hashtag I have magic eye and if you can't get magic eye to work hashtag tragic eye. I like that. Or I'm not a magic guy.

I'm not a magic guy. Anyways, field of choice. I had an eye patch and then I just had glasses. I eventually stopped wearing the glasses. Wow, that's the crazy part. But my dad and his work friend went up. He had two daughters and we all slept in the same bed together and I didn't know them

and I was like 10 years old. How old were the daughters? They were like one was like my age 10 and one was like 11 or 12. But I didn't know them and I remember being very strange that our dads were like the three of you sleeping in this bed. Maybe they were trying to mate us.

Jesus Christ. This sounds like a story for Bugman vision. This is listen to Mitch's little tail. Bug vision 3D. What are they watching? Close your eyes. Put on your glasses and close your eyes. Oh, okay.

Bug vision 3D. Presenting Mitch. Nothing happened except I do remember being like I like these girls. I was like sleeping in the middle of them and being like whoa. What a life. Thank you.

Life is really going to take off from here. No, not the case. Not the case. Yeah, that's either just like it could be irresponsible parents, it could be naive parents or it could be they just were sort of like oh, these kids are creepy-mesant. They're not sexual.

They could have just detected that there was not going to be any sort of issue. Oh, my dad. The two dads could have been into it. You never know. Jesus Christ. Rest in peace to my father. Okay. Anyways, let's move on. Tony Roma.

So, let's talk about cocktails and then get into our sampler. I started with the Agave Nectar Romarita. Patron Silver Tequila. Quanchot. Lime juice and Agave Nectar. It was a margarita basically. It was functionally just a margarita. Came in one of those big wide brim glasses

with a salted rim. Not bad. Maybe a little sweet for my taste. I think that's kind of a thing. As I tasted it, I was like, you know what? You could put this in a lineup with like 10 other chain restaurant margaritas. I couldn't pick it out. It was just so like sort of generic.

Very functional. It got the job done. I was just like, oh, this has the right ratio of booze to mixer. And it's a little on the sweet side, but they tend to be at chain restaurants. But it wasn't anything particularly notable. There wasn't anything there. I was like, oh, that's definitely the cocktail

again. I don't know if there's they make a big deal with their margaritas, but I'm not sure what's distinguishing their margaritas from just like a margarita to Fridays or something. My issue is I don't know what the name of my it was like a, I forget the name. It was some sort of hurricane, right?

It was some sort of hurricane. But now I can't find it on the goddamn menu. It's gone. I think it was a red hurricane. It was something along those lines. It was like, I'll say this about it. It was the sweetest looking drink on the menu or one of the sweetest drinks.

There weren't a ton of drink options. There was just a few. No, in terms of cocktail. It was like the red hurricane or something along those lines. And it was kind of like a like a rummy-ish sort of drink. It wasn't bad. It wasn't great, but it was, I'll say this, it was strong.

It was strong enough. And that for me, it wasn't like bad strong. It was like, oh, this is kind of sweet and it's strong. So it was like, as far as you know, at chain restaurants go, it was like, if you can pull that off, if it doesn't taste disgustingly bad booze and it doesn't taste crazy too sweet

and like there's no booze in it, it was just kind of like a decently good drink. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. Right, but for that sort of environment, it's like real quick, Universal City Walk if you're not familiar with it, but it's basically, it's like a downtown Disney.

It's like the it's right adjacent to Universal Studios Hollywood the amusement park. And so it's basically like the strip of largely tourist trap shops and some chain restaurants and then things like the Harry Potter store that are designed to ensnare tourists who are there

to visit Universal Studios. Nick, I'm sorry, Bugman had a good observation about that, about how like people fall into the trap of vacationing to Los Angeles. Yeah, I only imagine a world where people a man comes with

his family of three or four all the way down to LA just to go to Universal and gets one of those packages at Hilton and ends up at City Walk after one day doing every single ride and just realizing that he's been had and now taking him down to the fucking Walk of Fame

and the kids are like, what what did you do? And it's like money's running out the whole time. Fucking, just fucking enjoy this fucking trip. You fucking cunts. I hate you. I'm like, we're just like and then but there's another two nights

and then they're in the bed and it smells like it's shit and their bathing suits are like on the fucking walls and shit. Just like this hellish existence that I know happens. It's basically City Walk's like LA live but like back to the future to land a five

like things are hanging down. It's a wonderful hellish place to just walk around and see how everything's failing and how everything failed us already. Yeah. It's like outdoor mall. It's like it's an outdoor mall. It's kind of like if Times Square was like a private

place where you had to like pay an admission basically to go in there. We were saying that like it should be like the funny thing about City Walk is like they're adding a Margaritaville which listen, we like Margaritaville but like oh you're adding like one of these restaurants that's like 30 years old.

I mean not 30 years old but like 20 years old It'll be right across from a Hard Rock Cafe and there's also the Bubble Gum Shrimp Company we went to for the podcast. It's just that same complex. It's starting to show as age. Yes. And it's like that sort of thing of like oh they're starting to put Band-Aids on this thing already

and it should just be it feels like it should be just torn now. They're opening up a Margaritaville hotel in Florida and entirely themed almost like the Hard Rock Hotel. Right. I kind of like that. Yeah exactly or the Planet Hollywood which for one thing the Hard Rock just a little

bit of history was the Seminoles had a Hard Rock they made so much money in Florida on that Hard Rock that they bought the entire Hard Rock Corporation the Seminole Tribe is entirely owned by the Seminole Tribe Hard Rock. Planet Hollywood was the reverse.

You go into Planet Hollywood there's not one Planet Hollywood in any Planet Hollywood Casino. Any Planet Hollywood Casino or hotel there's not a Planet Hollywood restaurant in so they bought the name to simply rid of the Planet Hollywood restaurant. Sure. There's one right.

There's one in Caesars Palace and there's one in like the United Arab Emirates and those are just the last ditch which sort of reminded us of Tony Romas because I had never seen one and he said there was one in Encino and there's a bunch in like Bali or something. Yeah they're mostly overseas

I think in terms of California there are maybe two or three locations left. The Doughboys go to United Arab Emirates. I remember one time I was with Ryan Lochte in England and during the Olympics during the 2012 Olympics and he had his birthday

party at the Planet Hollywood in London Oh wow. And it was during it was like between a match. I like that move. Yeah. That's great. That makes me like him more. Yeah. So Bug what did you get in terms of beverage that I think I tried a mojito is terrible. A mojito. Yeah I mean

Miami and all that but they have all the it's for the dad that I'm explaining they want to get drunk out of their mind right so that they don't have to talk there was another thing I saw one time at Disneyland to talk to their family. Yes there's another thing I saw at Disneyland once which is

the dad who's secretly gay who drinks too much and is with his wife and kids and he walks over to these two gay men and starts kind of talking to them like too much like they're they know it they know what the deal is that this man is like

finally he's never been out of Minnesota he's letting his wings flies in Disneyland he just got drunk but they're like incredibly like alright like creeped out by him like anyone would be you know and he's hit in and the wife is just rubbing her temples and everything's dawning on her

and I'm watching I was watching you were watching I was watching this whole thing play out no this is a real thing that happened how long were you watching this for I was watching it then so then we we get called up it was in the like drink area waiting for a restaurant okay I get called up to eat they get called up they're right behind

us he and just just please like you know Elliot Elliot like can you just stop this please like he's like what what am I doing you know like nothing and just getting up to talk so there's lots of sociological things that happen in these places when you

go to a Tony Roma's with your family for four days you've never been out of your state and then you drink a mojito a red hurricane and a damn margarita so what you're basically trying to say is there's a lot of things that happen you're saying one of the things that happens is a dad with a family comes out to two men

I you know what that these Midwest family it's hey it's a beautiful thing it's also stuff that happens every day at these resorts I'm it's I'm just watching bug I'm just on a little bug on wall so little one while watching these things interesting

watching these little things happen I mean I don't deny this story I'm sure it's a real story I've seen it versions of it it's just a very touching it almost touches me it's very sad obviously the wife as well but the guy he he never did it he never went out I mean I just

think that it's I feel like Tony Roma's are any or any of these places one they're like we were saying they're they're they're a bit of a trap and we only know that because we if we didn't live in Hollywood we wouldn't know that City Walk is such like a dumb trap right that you go to all the

time we're separating the complex from the the restaurant itself right or you feel like I feel like I feel like those sorts of but but I think the beauty in those chains is that like you can scoff at those places and you can roll your eyes at them but no matter what no matter no matter who

you are no matter if you think it's ironic or you're genuinely going to these places you end up at them no matter what like you know what I'm saying you're you're you're you're you're we're going to Tony Roma's just like anyone else is going to Tony you know or we're going to bubble gum shrimp factor we're going to any

place like that it are you suggest kind of talking like an egalitarian sense of like like whether Prince or Popper everyone ends up at bubble gum shrimp everyone ends up at these places okay yeah and Tony wrote the thing is Tony Roma's delivers it's not an entire gym the you guys

had the food there and it's it's they deliver let's talk about a little bit more food unless you have any more of these stories you saw hey yeah and I'm bug me any other families you saw having a crisis on

vacation so we started with a roba sampler which is I believe it came with the potato skins the onion loaf and the spinach artichoke dip now this was one of many issues where the description on the menu differed from what we were presented with and this was another thing that drew

pointed out was there's some issues with the there's some errors on the menu that have not been corrected yes so just a thing to watch out for there if you're at the Tony Roma's you're going the aftermath of this podcast verify what you're ordering is what you're actually going to get because they've made some alterations without telling you I think what it was

here is that we were supposed to get the wings but they subbed in potato skins and that's just an alteration they've made of like oh yeah that's what it comes with now but the menu hasn't been updated to reflect it's a funny thing because I so I ordered a baked potato soup and so my I was so then we get these

potato skins and I was like oh man I ordered a baked potato soup a lot of potato and so that's potato head that you guys were calling me Mr. Potato Head the whole time feel bad so I wanted those bonus bites but what what a happy accident it all was because

of that trio it was spinach artichoke dip with like you said with the with the tortillas chips and salsa and then which we call it the onion loaf which is kind of like a nest it was it was kind of like akin to a blooming onion but a lot messier

it was really weird that yeah the the the the loaf created the contain like it was like they put sauce in the middle in a cup right but and like this loaf was the thing that you pulled off around it was very it was very strange I would also say because it was basically like they took

a a whole yellow onion and then hollowed out the middle and then deep fried all of it and so some of the stringier parts were edible but there's a large part of that onion loaf that I feel like was inedible it was just like giant chunks of onion that I can agree with that weren't fully deep like it wasn't fully coated with breading

I will say though I liked the onion loaf but I will say that the potato skins were my favorite of the bunch I thought the potato skins were actually very good yeah I agree I think those were tasty there's a real avalanche of dipping sauces there a whole bunch of dipping options I think they had like a ranch there's a barbecue

there was a little there's the salsa which you mentioned yeah the ranch just felt like a holdover from when they had buffalo bites right it still was fine to have well Tony Roma's always has their secret Tony Roma sauce that you just can't put your finger on how they make it what the fuck are you talking about

you're one of the Spoonerster 6 I got you on here and I don't know what the fuck you're talking about the Tony Roma sauce are you talking about the barbecue sauce we got the barbecue sampler hey I love those appetizer samplers

and you know what I we had there was sauces there I figured one was a special sauce because it was so good you're probably too busy staring at families and trying to hear what they were saying right you saw like a paraplegic mom stand up out of her wheelchair

and reveal to her family it was all a put on and we hear him go she was lying about not being able to walk the whole time and we're like are you sure about that bug main that's right I saw the whole thing it's a bug tip scattle scattle

scattle scattle what a nightmare maybe you should always just book this show I'm having fun bugs so outside of the secret Tony Roma sauce what did you think of that appetizer sampler I didn't have too much of it I mean look this is

you know they're probably buying all their ingredients from one big thing that you get all of this from so it's sort of taste in that generation I do think that there might still be these holdovers from the dirt cup era you could say of Tony back when Tony had his fingers in the

meat when Tony was stirring that sauce you know like they probably had some holdovers in their entrees which I tried because I thought that that's where they really stood out well tell us about your entree bug I the classic rotisserie chicken juicy

also had some veggies crisp everything was on point just like I remember being a little boy in Miami back in like 1995 finally getting to go to Tony roast for

birthday party asking for the dirt cup getting the dirt cup asking for a chicken juicy as it was then guys I'm telling you Tony Roma's on their entree delivered my Miami boy memories I didn't even know I had until

Drew talked to me about the roots of Tony Roma's it was a very very spiritual experience it was very much a post 9-11 hearkening back to an earlier better time you know that's I didn't even think about that

where did you get back in what Drew knew he knew he was implanted with the dirt cup knowledge because they probably discontinued that before the 9-11 wake-up call so he was just referring to something that was implanted in him I don't even know if I ever eat a

goddamn dirt cup right bug made could be I just looked up online the dirt cup ended on September 12th 2001 it was discontinued there you go at least he's not a truther

he just has the most complicated opinion on 9-11 I've ever heard in my life let's not probe that too much I had the ultimate grill power combo half rack of Carolina honeys st. Louis style ribs which was their sweet one as opposed to the secret Tony Roma sauce

a skewer of grilled shrimp 9-ounce sirloin steak I ordered it cooked medium rare came out more like medium but it was pretty good baked potato with butter, sour cream and chives and bacon, mac and cheese it was quite a value I felt like I think that whole dish all together was

$28.99 which is not cheap by chain restaurant prices but in terms of what you get like I got a ton of food and I finished like half of it and then it made good leftovers so there was certainly something to just like I was just getting this large portion of a bunch of different things

that I got to try and as a Tony Roma's neophyte it was nice to be able to taste the ribs a little bit taste that shrimp taste that steak and taste those couple of sides which come included another menu mishap where it said it came with a couple of designated sides and it said it came with a salad but it

doesn't actually come with a salad anymore the salad just counts as one of your two sides so don't be misdirected by the indication that you get a free super salad with your entree well the menu also spelled shareable wrong right yeah there was some glaring just typos on there and in our

waiter Drew was a English major and he said that it drove them nuts everything on there was driving them nuts grammatical inconsistencies and factual inaccuracies were needling him a little bit so I like the ribs quite a bit you know they were very much fall off the bone very yummy

to nibble on them bones you know I wouldn't have gotten the Carolina honeys if I had the option to get a different sauce because I just generally don't like the sweet barbecue as much I like something that's barbecue is always going to be a little bit sweet but I like something that doesn't have just like quite as much sugar to it the grilled shrimp I thought was

gettable I feel like they're kind of under seasoned the texture was a little just a little mushy they were there weren't anything particularly notable but the steak was not bad by chain restaurants standards you know I definitely like a sear on a steak versus something that's just kind of

been on the grill and has kind of a less of a texture to the the exterior but it was cooked pretty much not quite medium or ever cooked pretty well to temperature and it had a good amount of flavor to it baked potato you gotta give me more sour cream don't make me ask for an extra side of sour cream

like throw a bunch of sour cream in there I like I used up all my sour cream and like half the baked potato had a bunch of just like cooked potato with nothing in there give me another another menu mishap they spelled sour cream sour come right I was like drew

he didn't see that one yeah and then they brought out my baked potato is like where the fuck is my come there's only one with sour come around his bug me there was come there is there was oh god dammit there was sour

crumb there were sour cream I don't want that sour crumb there were sour cream in our appetizer platter right that was the one dip we were missing I should have held on to that little jacuzzi of sour cream and had some to supplement my baked potato but disgusting to shut up

right jacuzzi tell me to shut up now shut the fuck up that's what this debate has been reduced to and the bacon mac and cheese here's the thing mac and cheese like a grilled cheese sandwich don't give me them add-ons

it's good plain give me regular mac and cheese I don't need that bacon in there the smokiness and the the crunch is a distraction from that good old mac and cheese the mac and cheese itself was good but the bacon was unnecessary another another misspelling bacon was just bacon

right very strange a few I thought you were going to say some sort of cum some sort of cum like word like bacon maybe guys come on Mitch tell us about your entree first of all I want to give a shout out to the rolls at Tony Rome but they give you some garlic butter

and some warm rolls we Bugman and I were late and we walked up you were sitting there alone I think you were talking to yourself and we got into the booth rolls still warm still the these nice

hot rolls with the garlic butter interesting taste to them I liked them a lot those rolls were good and they came out nice and pipey and so when I ate those I said huh immediately a lot of people say you can judge a place by its bread I don't think that's true but if you have good I was I was pleasantly surprised

I said maybe this won't be as bad as I thought it was and it wasn't I got myself the filet filet medallions and ribs combo which is too perfectly prepared filet medallions topped with cabernet demi-glace paired with your choice of one of the

select ribs and I got the baby back ribs and that came with the side of barbecue sauce and it also comes with it also comes with a broccoli and it also came with loaded mashed potatoes now loaded mashed potatoes I got them when we went to the wood ranch with the little

ester episode yes bad job of them there I got them at Tony Rome's they were good the loaded mashed potatoes were actually good I couldn't believe it the vegetables the broccoli was well done it was cooked just right

wasn't soggy but wasn't too crispy it wasn't like eating raw broccoli it was seasoned well I was really really shocked that the broccoli was like that to me is like a throw away you ate a loaded mashed potato and had mashed potatoes soup and had potato skins

a lot of potato no wonder we were calling you Mr. Potato Head the whole time sky man Jesus Christ I hadn't eaten I hadn't eaten all day it was a weird day where I was weirdly busy doing a lot of dumb dough boy shit actually fuck this stupid podcast

and it's not that much work there was a that that day I was talking to you all day there you catch up on emails there was a ton of shit I mean it was also what my first couple days back or whatever right you just gotten back from Boston that's why you're stuttering on all of your promos you have little

potato sprouts in your brain man I don't eat potatoes that much Christ I love potatoes but I don't I listen I got the loaded I got the baked potato soup which because I was I wanted to get your meal wiger yeah and when you got it I said I'll get this other one

I'm gonna do this baked potato soup because it looked very interesting it was good I was shocked you had a bite of it that was a good soup yes not bad cheese bacon and potatoes and kind of like a thicker you know it was kind of like almost like a like a chowder right it was very isn't the right word for it

you mentioned it you set it up as like it's gonna catch you off guard a little bit because it tasted very different than it tasted almost like a blended baked potato but in a good way yes but it was just like kind of like maybe maybe like kind of take a second after you ask for a loaded potato and then you ask them to melt one

and then you ate both of them you ate the melted one and then the regular one they essentially had the same exact ingredients yes well we didn't know that we're gonna get potato skins that was the big issue we we had no idea even without the potato skins that's no I didn't get a potato bug man you dumb fuck oh you didn't have a

I got loaded I know I got loaded mashed potatoes but I didn't realize I didn't realize that there was so much overlap I didn't I was gonna pick my own sides at one point this was all fucked up because we put the appetizer in my soup in and then that's what I ended up gonna get ended up getting a lot of it is related to the menu being

inaccurate where if the if the sampler platter had indeed had the buffalo wings instead of the the potato skins then this would have like made this much less of an issue they get that I like potatoes yes Irish Irish love potatoes right part of their DNA

and what are you mean mom no we don't you know you do no I don't love the queen mom I don't know is the queen mom still alive I thought she passed away I don't know you love the queen the queen of

England yes no I do I think you do actually weigher knows this I hate the royal family no you like the queen you told me why you're do I not I've told you before that I don't like Prince Harry and Prince that's not the queen you have some weird contempt you like the queen because she stayed in

London during the bombing I do like the queen because she stayed in London during the bombing actually I do appreciate that you like the queen wait I didn't have your heart you're just making this up you just knew that fact but I do like that fact about the queen yeah she had some she did the right thing in world war two had some

heroism what are we talking about here I don't know we're talking about this like this is news this happened 70 years ago she was like a mechanic during the war right all my knowledge comes from the film the queen but that's what I remember how was she doing she's got some shitty grandson I'll tell you that much I'm pretty good oh

Jesus Christ fuck that queen are you gonna edit that moment out right now what the bug wants to fuck the queen of England yes no I think we should leave it in all right yeah fine fair enough um all right like naked gun oh

oh hold on a second Leslie Nielsen does not fuck the queen of England I think I'll do it uh flump dun dun dun dun dun dun dun uh those cameras

what on earth cameras oh boy it was me sliding on a cake and my with my dick out falling into the queen that that does not happen in the naked gun also how was anyone supposed to understand that that's what you're right I blue screened myself into the

naked gun jai ho can I continue my yes please do I got my load of mashed potatoes I got the filet medallions I got my baby back ribs the load of mashed potatoes like I said they were good the vegetables were good I was warned

the most even by our server drew and by you guys that these filet medallions were not gonna be good one of the best parts of the meal wow they were delicious these little juicy little filet medallions I got the medium rare I believe and they and I mean you couldn't even tell the cook on it that didn't even matter

it didn't matter but they were good and juicy and not cooked overcooked and not undercooked and they were good the baby back ribs here's another thing they were the idea of this of Tony Rome was being good overseas it makes sense to me because I'm like we went to Chili's and we ate ribs

the Tony Rome's were ribs from what we got at Chili's to compare to this I know that that's our first episode is literally a year and a half ago yeah these ribs were much better than those ribs they're definitely it's night and day that I mean they're there like a ribs restaurant you get that that that was why it's their hook yeah you it's it's

they were good they weren't stringy these were good good I was I was I thought we were in for like a very shitty meal and I really enjoyed the whole lot of it it may it makes you wonder what happened to the franchise honestly yeah I don't know

I mean it was Chili's is booming I don't like the name Tony Rome's name first of all it's confused it's kind of just confusing Tony Rome is like what it's just a man's name right well it's Tony Rome it's a place for ribs I think the tagline is kind of part of it but that gets lost a lot of Tony Rome's there's like Ghostbusters answer

the call it's similar to Ghostbusters answer the call let's not get into Ghostbusters answer the call and hear your opinions edge of tomorrow live die repeat sure they needed to do that live die repeat or else he thought it was a Mamma Mia huh you thought it was a fuzz Julie I thought I truly

because we were up there and we went to the Bucca de Beppo and and just recently and and not nearly as good as Tony Rome is I feel like Tony Roma just sounds like kind of like a fat asshole guy yeah I mean he sounds like kind of like a just big like I'm Tony Roman you said he put his hands in the meat he sounds like a shitty fat

piece of shit guy I mean like a godfather there's like a 98% chance that was true yeah I was sure he was yes there's a big fat asshole who founded a work to the playboy club and did a bunch of shady stuff there and then open his own restaurant give me one of those

give me one of those restaurants hey man John wasn't that Italian this is an interesting legal thing when we're talking about Tony Roma who has passed away did you realize I learned this from comedy Central's legal department we'll be sued by his estate soon as I'm sure no

it's actually it's not illegal there's nothing illegal about defaming a dead person it's impossible to do you can say whatever you want about a dead person go for it bug main because they have like their their image no longer has any value to them

so you can't enact any economic damage to that individual there may be a more speed there may be a larger issue if it has to do with like okay well I'm going to attack Elvis Presley who has an estate but as far as an individual is concerned like if you just want to go in on you know Whitney Houston or something you totally could Tony Roma

funded ISIS care fish you got that tight ass little putty okay alright Jesus Christ you're saying there's nothing wrong with it I thought it was a big setup and I just hit it out of the goddamn car you're saying there's nothing wrong with it

I said there's nothing illegal I see I thought I'd do a little buggy honey trap when I smelled that nectar I went right in I got stuck we weren't trying to trick you the idea that we're trying to trick you on our

podcast is insane anyways the meal was great then we got ourselves a little dessert did we not yeah no dirt cup they didn't have the dirt cup but we got a little chocolate chip cookie sandwich recommended by Drew we said it was the best of the dessert options after bugman cried

for a good 20 minutes about no dirt cup we get bug loves his dirt but that that cookie was delicious it was quite good it was it that was a delicious dessert it managed to keep the the the the doughy part of the cookie seem kind of warm and doughy even though I don't even think it was warm and then that cookie

I mean sorry then the ice cream in the whipped cream together was just it was I was having a blast it was a glorified chipwitch but the cookie was good and warm like you were saying the ice cream was the right texture very you know a very neutral flavor that didn't really intrude the only negative

I would say about that dessert is I feel like that chocolate sauce just seemed like out of the bottle Hershey's syrup it seemed like it wasn't really adding much and I kind of wouldn't like it was kind of sitting in this pool of chocolate sauce that I kind of wish just wasn't on the plate Hershey's I liked the chocolate sauce I was okay with it I felt like I was that insane

dad with my family went out when we're eating that we had a great time though also you never you can't underestimate maybe you're having the terrible time like I thought of before and then that one great Tony Roma's dinner just brings the whole thing back sure you just you know you look at your kids they're having their dirt

cup or they're having their ice cream sandwich and you see how happy they are right and you you kind of you know what I don't have any money and I hate this family but right now I'm really you were you weren't happy to be with us until that moment no it wasn't that wasn't my journey but I could picture myself

being like a father figure you know like I could I could be your father figure you're talking about a hypothetical dad from Sioux City Iowa who spent four thousand dollars and three days of his life to stay at Universal Studios Hollywood finally that one last hundred and twenty five dollars in his

bank account we want to go to Tony Roma's dad we do it and you know what he sees that smile on his child's face turns it all around I don't know which of the hundreds of families that you've watched you were talking about but I watch families let's get to our final thoughts

so what I do bug here's how this will work we'll each go around we'll take a second to sort of give our closing argument if you will about the chain and then end with a score from the order of one to five forks five is the best so we will start with you your thoughts on Tony Roma's Tony Roma's this is the kind of

chain that delivers if I am I know I'm going to see that TR and that red carpeting and that smell and those little booths any Tony Roma's I go to they got they got the consistency like a like a Barnes and Noble I go in I see the little faces of the guys I love Tony Roma's I give it a five at a fork

I give it a five at a fork wow five forks from Bugman five at a fork five five five forks I give it a five at a fork that's a very good score go ahead Mitch bugman I'm fine I'm happy that we finally got you here we got we got you on the show real treat Nick was scared he

thought he was gonna have to edit most no maybe you will have to no you didn't ended any of that stuff out no it's gonna stay in all in unless you do something stupid from here to the end of the episode which probably you will I didn't I only knew the name of Tony Roma's I like I almost thought of it more

as like a frozen ribs I didn't really know anything about it going up to say city walk I thought it was gonna be a shitty night I almost said shitty walk I thought it was gonna be a not enjoyable night I thought we're gonna have some terrible food I was not looking forward

to it pleasantly pleasantly surprised I'm sad that I didn't get to experience the dirt cup like you did I'm sad that I didn't get to see old Tony Roma's and maybe you know maybe I can ask my family maybe you know maybe I did back in the day when I went down on my trip to Florida

well it's like sort of like if you imagine the last person that ever experienced the Civil War and they were there they're the last person in 1950 whatever the civil war only lives in their head and I am now maybe one of the only people on earth with the dirt cup still in my head once I die

no one will ever know what the dirt cup from Tony Roma's tasted like felt like inside so this is I take this legacy to my grave until I'm a little dirt cup that's gonna be a sad day when we're all at Bug Main's funeral

you're predicting that I don't think either of us is gonna outlive Bug Main yeah you'll probably live for like a hundred years or something insane I'm sure yeah it's bug lives who knows about bug life anyway I

I liked it it made me it made me think there is hope in these city walks there is hope for these frustrated dads that Bug Main is talking about it's a place that brings everyone together hey if you're a prince or a popper and I'm no prince

and I don't know if I'm a popper or not does that mean I'm not a popper I guess either I'm just a man I'm just a common man regular Joe I'm a regular Joe every man I'm the every man and I and I liked Tony Rome is a lot and I give it four forks four forks wow

I can't believe I gave it four forks um I can't believe I gave it four forks I can't you guys are coming in hot and well it looks like this is about to get ruined let me let me bring it down to earth I am really really upset it was a thing we ran past

but I have to speak out on behalf of the Wood Ranch family on behalf of all my ranch heads out there Wood Ranch Nation Mitch I feel like I was really upset by you favorably comparing Tony Roma's to Wood Ranch

which I feel is much better at a better price point and I think you had one bad experience at Wood Ranch and one experience at Tony Roma's that exceeded your expectations and that is to create this imbalance in the truth Nick I am breaking it down between the two

meals I had right Tony Roma's fucking washed the floor with Wood Ranch I trust you wow I trust you I am saying I trust you on those individual experiences however I would say in the general case and again you know I am someone coming in as a newbie to Tony Roma's

so I need to have some more Tony Roma's meals to really make this judgment based on what I know of Wood Ranch you had a particularly egregious Wood Ranch experience that has colored your perception of the chain different from reality Tony Roma's made Wood Ranch sleep with a fish

Tony Roma's made her sleep with a fish Jesus Wood Ranch is great and I'm sorry you had a bad time I think you should revisit it with an open mind in the same way that I revisited the prequels and saw something in there under the advisement of Bug Main

I'll go back to Wood Ranch Grill but my issue is that we were all eating the same food at Tony Roma's and I feel like you're about to give it you're about to you're about to give it a bad score because I had a good time there and I thought the restaurant was good

and it did exceed my expectations and I think over on balance it was good food, well prepared it's a little rough around the edges and I would say if you live near Tony Roma's and it's something you remember from your childhood or just something you've never tried

and just want to experience it listening to this podcast go to Tony Roma's now before they're no longer in the US and you have to go to Kuwait to experience it Tony Roma's, recognize that there are going to be some issues with Unless you're living Kuwait hashtag Kevin Kuwait Yeah, if you live in Kuwait, hashtag Kevin Kuwait

go visit the local Tony Roma's there and let us know, report back but if you are in the states, if you are in the US and there's one of the 20 locations that are domestic remaining nearby, check it out and just expect that it's going to be maybe an experience that is going to have some ups and downs

but it's going to probably be a little bit better than you expect or match up with your memories from before 9-11 So We're branching out prequels, dog Look, also Phantom Menace that was implanted

You don't think Phantom Menace was actually made because it was made in 1989 Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith now that was made Which, Phantom Menace the only one shot on film, that's how maybe you know as a clue it was implanted into us Right, so it's a false memory

That was 9-11, that film didn't actually exist but we mentally filled in the gaps Okay, I get it Tony Roma's was good I liked the food, top to bottom there were some ups and downs but overall it was pretty of a consistent, good level Here's my thing

I would not go back to City Walk just to go to that Tony Roma's and although I had a good time the fact that I would not make a special trip to revisit this place as I would other members of the exclusive club that we call the Golden Plate Club means that I have to exclude it

I'm going to give Tony Roma's three forks two times Wow That's it, isn't it He fucked us over, Bugman That's how it goes down, huh It's still got a good score it's still a positive recommendation

We're in the hand holding club We're in Ballpark Buds We're all in the same general vicinity That award means nothing What is Ballpark Buds just means a standard deviation of one and a half from whatever Yeah, fuck Ballpark Buds I can't believe it

You gave Wood Ranch four, right Wood Ranch is great, yeah I think you're wrong I respectfully disagree with you on this one Mitch, I think what we need to do is we need to have a barbecue rematch and I think we each need to

revisit these chains But also we don't have Bugman come back I'm hoping that Bugman never comes back on the podcast Bugman can come to the restaurants with us Starting with Tony Roma's I'll go to any Look Tony Roma's

guys I love Tony, I love Tony Roma's and I'm ashamed that Tony Roma's isn't on the golden plate list I agree with you, it should be in the golden plate club but I disagree with you on this, from what I experience I don't understand besides the menu being spelled wrong

Maybe it'll get there, I think it needs a little work We'll take a quick break or we'll be right back with our dough boys Welcome back to Dough Boys, we're sitting here with the one and only Bugman, it's time for a regular segment We have a fast food item that we bought yesterday and we're going to test how it's held up

after spending a night in the fridge These are the leftovers The famous leftover song Wow It's a pleasure to hear it live The one and only theme It's probably my favorite part about the podcast Is the leftover song?

Sure, it's probably a lot of people's favorite part about the podcast The only parts where it becomes listenable We got a fun one today We're trying something that we haven't done as a restaurant I went to KFC A big one

One of the biggest chains in America and the world I got some KFC Nashville Hot Wings Warning You're about to taste the best spicy chicken you've ever had Okay, so Nashville Hot Chicken

is like a current trend You want to take a picture of it? Oh, yeah, I'll take a quick shot of that And so this is a thing that KFC has had but there's also like a local place What's that place called? The L.A. place that's got the hot chicken There's a bunch of

I forgot the name of it but I know what you're talking about Yeah, but that's like a big thing that's like restaurants are popping up serving the specific local delicacy which is like a spicy fried chicken I haven't had their KFC's version even hot So having it When you go down to the Tremé you're going to get the spiciest chicken in the Tremé

The Tremé is crème brûlée Spicy chicken all day Bugman, you're mixing your HBO properties Oh, shit I've never seen Tremé So I guess that's what it could be like Yum, do the Tremé now I have to say this

The wings It was a three-piece wing and it cost like 6 or 6 bucks For a three-piece? For a three-piece but I didn't realize this So we got kind of a double We got an extra fun one We got a side of coleslaw too

Oh, extra fun I got myself a diapepsy and there was a biscuit in here and I ate it Just to let you know So the biscuit's gone We're going to try this Nashville Hot Wings They're tiny though, they're very small Yeah, that's what I'm going to say

Three little ass wings Plus a biscuit and coleslaw and a drink for 6 bucks Seems like not a great value I guess we'll see how tasty these bad boys are Alright, these are bone-in wings I've got a flat here Mitch is handing me a paper towel Thanks, buddy

Bugman, what do you got over there? You got a drumette? Alright guys, on the count of 13 Hold on, there's also ranch or barbecue sauces Anyone want those or no? I'm going to have this without dipping sauce on top Just to taste it

Bugman, you're the same? I'm good Are we sticking with the count to 13? I'm good, spoon man We're just diving in Alright I tell you The flavor is not

unlike a laze barbecue chip It's kind of very much got that artificial sort of barbecue coating that powdery coating with a little bit extra heat Oh, it gives you a little kick there Woo! Yeah, get a little spice to it

Actually an unexpected amount of spice Given that this is KFC This is some actual heat here Hmm I'm not one who is like cold fried chicken is great, I'm like I'd rather eat it hot always, but I gotta say

Wow I'll say something in a second What do you think, Nick? I'm sure our listeners, especially if they're listening on headphones or experiencing this There's some extra moist chewing sounds It sounds like a little like a fish

You know, like one of those little aquariums that's going I heard someone once told me they go you know, when you're eating chicken and you're around a girl you want to really eat the whole chicken around the bone, like really lap it up because it shows girls how good you are

at eating pussy So it's like, if you eat We were out of the woods and he wasn't going to say anything shitty When you slurp up that bone on these chicken wings you're supposed to, in the presence of a girl do it extra slurpy get all the little chicken

nibblets out My mom might listen to this podcast I'm not sure Also, who the fuck told you this? Mr. E, of course Mr. E? Okay, I see what you're doing No, there was a guy

who, let's just say he knows about the girls, he just was a tip imparted onto me, so just for all you listeners out there Shut the fuck up What I would say is that the Could be true, I don't know There's something especially about the drummet

that's a little phallic, so wouldn't it be a better indication of how well you suck a wiener versus much in box The bug man is not gay, dude I'm talking about what Mitch is on over there one of those wings where you have the middle part

Okay, where you've got one of these flats where you've got the little bit of space between the bones I'm pretty sure over the years any time a girl's seen me eating a chicken flat she's never never been interested in me Yeah, that's a particularly grotesque

state I feel like to be observed in Maybe, hey, you're a different guy than me Bug man Also, bug, if you were gay, that would be fine That's totally fine No, I am gay Okay, alright That's fine, that's great

This is real good I actually really like this a lot I am a big cold fried chicken guy I would say cold fried chicken is my favorite cold food Over pizza But not pizza comets pizza No, I stay away from that shit

When they have that cold pizza, that cold pizza good Yeah, that's a code word I don't like cold pizza, I like hot pizza, thank you Yeah, well I like cold pizza, I think hot pizza is better but cold pizza has its own sort of value Well, how about cold, what this was was cold but with the spice

Cold with a little bit of heat, yeah, that's interesting I think it's fucking great, I actually really really like this I bet you want to try it Mitch is eating that coleslaw Everyone gets a scoop of coleslaw Here's what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna defer my scoop to Bug main first, because I have this cold that you've noted

and I don't want to contaminate this shared portion So, Mitch is handing the plastic container of coleslaw over to Bug main Bug main is taking a bite He is going to reference how it somehow indicates your skill at

oral sex of some kind and I am going to take a bite of coleslaw myself A two for one on leftovers I mean, this is just fucking coleslaw, there's nothing particularly notably leftover about this, this just tastes like grocery store coldslaw that you have in the fridge

It's good, it's fine, it's better than the Tony Roman coleslaw I had some of it one bite Yeah, this is fine But I want to say this that a day after it's been bought the KFC coleslaw is good

Yeah, it's kind of actually impressive that it holds up We were really hard on KFC because we went to Popeyes and we went to Churches and we were pleasantly surprised with both those places and so now I'm like

KFC good We're going to do KFC soon But is KFC good? Well, the Popeyes has the French Quarter Flare that the Trimmie might like Oh, I'm a big Popeyes fan Let me say that Popeyes is one of my

most, one of the Golden Plate Club exclusives that I'm most upset about You guys talk about Tony Romas, I talk about Popeyes I'm really upset that that one didn't get in I think Popeyes is the premier fried chicken restaurant chain in the U.S. I love Popeyes

and Churches is in there so I think Popeyes should join it Wow So we're all in agreement that we like these We like this hot chicken So are they going to be left behind or are they going to be taken with us? Which one is good? Going up, being taken is the one that's good

You want to be taken? Yeah, you don't want to be left behind So unlike the Liam Neeson franchise where you don't want to be taken in the leftovers you do want to be taken just because you want the action to start Right, so you want, well like in a narrative sense, you want that you want to be taken but if you are the character in it, you don't want to be taken

If you're not taken, you're a leftover Alright, so Experience the eyes Experience a life through the eyes of Force Gump What are you describing? I'm sorry If you're not taking your leftover, I'm sorry

that's what it meant. That'd be a very weird Universal Studios attraction Just a Force Gump POV VR experience I'd like that I guess you're just running and being heckled Scoring touchdowns for Alabama That's too different from our life Alright, that was the leftovers

Just like a chain restaurant We value your feedback, let's open up the feedback Today's email comes to us Oh wait, I'm saying I'm taking that, it's not getting left behind Okay, I'm taking it too, I'm sorry, we didn't give our version It's took Yeah, I'm taking it for sure

Good stuff, yeah, KFC, good job Having that indoor in the front over night It's left behind You're trolling us You're famous trolling Yeah, that's what you guys were scared of Oh god, his bones are going everywhere His chicken bones

He's flopping his napkin around With a bone inside of it Now he's dusting off his hands Alright Today's email comes to us from Katie Abrams, Katie writes Hey guys, love the show, my question is in regards to non-traditional buns or wraps

With upcoming Taco Bell naked chicken chalupa and past examples like the KFC Double Down Donut Burger, Ramen Burger, etc How do you guys feel about replacing bread with other things? Any dream sandwich mashups? Personally, I think a meatball sub with some sort of spaghetti bun would be amazing

Thanks for the hours of laughs Spoon Nation for Life Sorry, Nick A sour note to end that one on Katie, but a good question Thanks Katie Bugman, what do you think? Non-traditional wraps, how do you feel? I actually, I'm one of those that takes my spaghetti

I'll put it on a bagel and make a little bagel spaghetti sandwich You're one of those? That's the first time I've ever heard of that I'll take my eggs I'll take my eggs, put it on a toast I'll make an egg sandwich on my toast That's more traditional Bugman is all about mixing things up

So I'm saying I'm down with this I'm down with something kooky like this If you have a piece of bread If you're eating an Italian meal I guess this is just bread again But I'm saying you're putting spaghetti within a sandwich I like mixing things up and mixing it around

Sometimes I feel like the donut buns and stuff like that I don't love all of them I'm not a fan of all of them I feel like sometimes it does not work I like your idea for this spaghetti and meatball sandwich But does that mean hard spaghetti?

If you form it, it's a very tricky thing I'm having trouble visualizing it I'm assuming like the ramen burger It's sort of a crusty spaghetti But I don't love that It's tricky I love meatball sandwiches I love spaghetti and meatballs

So I feel like I would like this no matter what But it just feels like a tricky thing But then here's the other thing with it too With that KFC thing I get that it's convenient The double down Yes, sure But I can just eat that

I don't need it to be the double down I can eat the double down sandwich I get that maybe it's a lower carb thing But it's still not great for you It's like nothing that A lot of it seems kind of gimmicky to me There's definitely some gimmickry there My main thing involving that is

I feel like the bun Whatever the bun substitute is Has to work as well as a bun And the bun's core Which is to make sure that the sandwich stays assembled And if you get something that's going to fall apart Then it's no longer functionally a sandwich It's like what's the point of that

I agree with that completely So I feel like a lot of times that's going to be Some sort of starch But I also feel like what you're saying Mitch Like sometimes they get too cute with it And sometimes the best bun is a bun I will say I eat a lot of lettuce wrap burgers Which I know some people don't like

I think they're fine I think they accomplish 75% of what I want From a burger I would prefer with a bun obviously They get messy too though If you get a well made one that's good and wrapped Like you'll get generally an in and out burger One of the primo chains Then you will have a great experience

But some other places it'll be a little sloppier And you'll have a mess all over your hands Like I do now with this KFC hot chicken residue So yeah I don't know It still has to keep the thing together Whatever it is If you want to wrap a burrito in some prosciutto Fine if it tastes good

Are there sandwich balls? Like a ball I can eat into like an apple That has sandwich stuff inside of it Like a donut hole? No like a ball of like a bread ball Inside is the stuff I feel like there's some middle eastern I feel like there's middle eastern things like that

That are kind of similar to what he's talking about But do you mean like a layer of meat on the outside And a bread core? No the bread on the outside You put the meat on the inside or the peanut butter jelly on the inside It just looks like a little apple Well that's like a little Yeah it's like a hot pocket I guess

You want more of a sphere You want to eat the earth Yes I want to have like a little apple Little apples of food I think those sound fun Because I feel like they wouldn't be too messy I like that Maybe this girl goes ahead and makes one of those

Is she a baker? Or is she a chef? Give her the property I mean she might be If you are go for it I guess we should go on a little bun run I want to hear what your favorite buns are Well you mean just like in general?

In general because I know that Bugman is Bugman here, Bugman loves delicatessence He loves going to the deli He likes a good Jewish deli So what are your favorite Say for instance You're going to get yourself a pastrami sandwich Which I got myself

I just celebrated Nick I'm sorry, Bugman's birthday I just celebrated Bugman's birthday And we went to What was the name of the place? Greenblats Now with a pastrami sandwich

I'd probably get that buttered rice Slightly toasted just to keep with tradition But my favorite buns came K My favorite buns is that booty hole Okay That's my buns I thought I had a fun segment Swiss

With the rye on the Swiss And the pastrami, that's the classic way The classic way is rye, Swiss And pastrami, 100% agree with you I sometimes do yellow mustard with that Coastlaw And sometimes That Hawaiian bread is good sometimes

That's what I'm saying, onion roll I want to hear it a little bun run What's your favorite? I think they went in a different direction Which is just talking about buns in the abstract You should put up a strong sandwich I would say I'm a big fan of the potato roll You get a good potato roll

I feel like that's got some good texture I like onion roll a lot And I actually really like a Kaiser roll Yeah, I like a Kaiser And you know what? I've given the seeds some shit before But I like a sesame seed bun It evokes a big mac Very satisfying

The sesame seeds don't add much except for flair I guess a little bit of texture But I like it Hashtag bun run Let us know what your top five buns are I feel like If it just came to bread I like rye bread but specifically with pastrami

I feel like I like a Kaiser roll Sometimes like we talked about Tony Rome Is the bread can make or break a meal But bread is not a bun Or even a bun But let's just say this, the stuff inside If that bun isn't fun Then you're going to run

Because you need to have that bread Bun, whatever you're eating that stuff inside A bread ball Perhaps It has to be good, soft, fresh That's like Tony Rome's, the bread was good Now maybe the whole rest of it might be good I got that

I got you something, I got a question for you Go for it What are your seedings? How do you rank the seeds? Because you're making fun of sesame seeds And sesame seeds are some of my favorite seeds I like sesame seeds, we should talk caraway seeds Caraway seeds can get the fuck out of here

How often do you see them on sandwiches anyways One of the main seeds on sandwiches You got sesame seeds And then you got Poppy seeds You got your caraway seeds And then I'm trying to think of sunflower seeds But you're not going to see those on a bun

No, those are something the bad kids will be chewing on And spitting out behind the bleachers Bad kids like me Also From What's going on? What are you talking about? I feel like that was the rough nicks I'd see at school

Or the ones who were chewing on the sunflower seeds They were chewing on sunflower seeds Godwiger, Jesus Christ Those are the kids you want to stay away from No, he's right Those are the kids that tell me how to eat the drumsticks Like it's that That gush

Now, Bugman, what are your favorite seeds? Caraway seeds are gone, but are you Do you like Wait, pumpernickel is not a seed, is it? No, that's the brown bread Can I give a Bugman answer? My favorite seed that White comb came out of my dick

That's my favorite seed, baby That was actually me, baby It wasn't why I got it Oh, that was me Bugman What the fuck happened? Yeah, that's where we spread in like a virus This is a This is an unexpected outcome

But you brought in Bugman and it turns out the two of us have bonded Are you talking Are you chucking that deep voice for me right now? This is how Wagat talks from now on Yeah, give me that putty, girl Yeah Alright, anyways, my favorite seed is Sesame

Open sesame What do you like better? Do you like Sesame or do you like What's the other seed again? Poppy seeds Poppy seeds or sesame? I guess Poppy just in the sense of Wow, Poppy seeds?

Yeah, Wizard of Oz, isn't that? There's poppies there I'm talking just in the general sense I guess I like poppies show up I don't dislike poppies Poppy shows up in Seinfeld and Wizard of Oz I like poppies Kaiser rolls can sometimes be poppy seed rolls

Sesame, I just like the taste of sesame seeds Yeah, they're good I think they're probably the winner by default Out there Let us know your favorite bun, hashtag bun run Let us know your favorite seed, hashtag top seed, oh wait hashtag number one seed Yeah, number one seed, that's good

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making time for us I was happy to do all of this If you want to see more Bugmain go to www.bugmain it's 9-11 theory.tv You can get some good BugTips He's got his own BugCast He's got a BugCast

You got a BugCast? Yeah, it's a little buggy idea He's got a BugCast, Weigar's the first guest What the fuck? Look out for Weigar on Bugmain's first BugCast What a strange outcome this was Talk about how when you eat a donut in front of a girl, that's how she thinks

you're gonna eat her booty hole Looks like that brown, brown booty hole Alright That'll do it for this episode of Dough Boys Until next time for the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell and I'm Dick Weigar Happy eating!