Doughboys - UNLOCKED! Tarot Pizza with Ariana Lenarsky

Episode Date: November 22, 2018

Free preview of Doughboys Double!Writer, musician, and professional tarot reader Ariana Lenarsky (McSweeney's, Brand New Podcast) joins to discuss her experiences as a pizza delivery driver, and to read tarot for the notoriously superstitious Mitch.To subscribe to the Doughboys Double go to: patreon.com/doughboysSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following is a free preview of Do Boys Double. Subscribe at patreon.com slash doughboys. This is a headgum podcast. Welcome to Do Boys Double. I'm Nick Weigar alongside Mitchie Two Spoons, Mike Mitchell. Mitch. Nicky. We have some business to do at the very top of this episode.

Uh-huh. That's right. We are going to order a pizza. We are. And that's part of what we're going to do today. Are you doing the Domino's website on there? Yeah, I got the Domino's website. Okay.

Should I do that? the pizza the app. I think the app is way more, but no, you should, you're on the website. You should do it. All right. Here's what I'm going to do. I have this order coming. I'm going to hit place your order right now, about 30 seconds into the podcast. We're going to see when this bad boy arrives. And there's a reason we're doing this. We'll get to that when we, we talk to our guest to one second. But we're going to get this going. We'll see if it gets here. I mean, it should get here within a half an hour. Hopefully the pizza tracker is up and running. Okay, pizza tracker is going. item one on this five bar iconography is lit up order is placed so we're going to see what happens

they used to do some fun stuff with that where there'd be like a chef and stuff but they don't do it as much yeah they don't have the names of everyone it's it's not quite as intense as it once was Nick I want to say yes I know that this is dated we talked about this before the episode so but I want to say rest in peace to Anthony Bourdain yeah we were both big fans of his and that was that was a real bummer and he you know he certainly did a much smarter better more educated version of what we do. Oh, for sure. But I think that it's not even right. It's not even close. Yeah. It's apples and and little balls of dog shit. Yeah. I was going to say apples and

battleships, but yours was much more evocative and much more a pro pro for what our show is. I, I, I, we, here's here's here's here's, here's, here's, here's, here's, here's, here's the thing that bums me out is that we could have and probably would have had them on our show. I really think this because I did have a connection. Oh, you think you would have come on? Yeah. I think we just, we, we mess. We should have done it.

We, we never, we never do stuff like that. And I want to say this, that in like 2006 or 2007, way early on, I watched one of his specials when he was in, in Canada. And it's why I took my mom and dad to Opie de Caution when we went to Quebec for, to Montreal for, right. for the just for last festival. And it was great. It was a great meal.

My mom took a picture with me with like the big chef up there. And that was like my first kind of like he was, he was like kind of the, a big inspiration as far as getting into food like different food. You know, trying different stuff. And when we went up to San Francisco, just this last,

you know, a couple weekends ago or whatever it was, uh, we went to two places that I learned about from Bourdain. Right. These are old, from his old special, the Tonga Room and,

uh, and Sam's, burger pizza and burgers yeah and he had he had kind of and i think what that speaks to is he had kind of this every man's like like or that he was he was welcome in a way that maybe some people in food culture maybe turn their nose up at some things that are a little bit more accessible to the every man he embraced that and that was part of like what was great about him and also i think like for me i was like part of what i liked about him is how much he just like how much he he sort of approached other cultures, but in a way that was never like, it never was like, oh, this is,

this is my thing that I found out about. It was like, oh, this is someone else's food that I'm learning about. He had this very like, like, kind of this perspective that wasn't, it wasn't like, like, oh, this is this bizarre food that we're going to check out. It was like, oh, this is someone's culture and I'm going to. Yes. He was very respectful. Appreciate that. Exactly. With the proper respect. We had the Bordane special up at Sam's and then he passed away that week, basically, sadly. But that was a nice little, a nice little moment up there with me, you and Gaboris. We had a nice time. But yeah, rest and peace.

Check out, check out those specials. He's a bunch of foie gras, opiated to go shine. Yeah, watch, watch, watch, you know, watch no reservations instead of listening to this podcast. But Mitch, let's introduce our guest. She's a writer and musician from Brad New Podcast. She also runs Dream City Terro at Dream City Terro on Twitter. Ariana Lanarski is here. Hi, Ariana.

Hello. Thank you so much for coming by. I said here. I was trying to say, hi, Ariana. and it kind of blurred into higher ariana. It was like a very... Higher Ariana. That's true, too.

Yeah. Please hire Ariana. I apologize for the bungal. So you are a vegetarian, but also you used to deliver pizza. Yes, that's true. That's one reason we wanted to deliver pizza and sort of, you know, bring that. This thing that used to do for others, we wanted to sort of like, okay, let's see what happens if we order a pizza in real time and it arrives and we'll take it from there.

But what was it like? When were you delivering? pizza and what was that experience like. Okay. So when I was, you know, in my early 20s, I was very much like manic pixie dream girl. And... Very cool. What was it?

Did you know Zach Braff? I did. Whoa. I went a little referee there. But I would always have these jobs that were kind of like, I had a problem where instead of doing my work. which would be, you know, writing or music or whatever it is, I'd get these jobs that were kind of like interesting to say. Okay. So like personal assistant to like a classical piano player

or, you know, shit like that. Or like, you know, I work in a museum. That's so funny. The Hollywood Bowl Museum. And it would just be like enough for people go, oh, and it'd be like, mm-hmm. And I'd be like, okay, now I don't have to like write or make music. I can just like hide behind the stupid job. Did you really work in the Hollywood Bowl Museum? I worked at the Hollywood Bowl for like 10 years. Wow. That's a cool job. That's cool.

Actually, I never worked at the museum. That was, I was like a program seller and an usher, but I was going to take the museum job. I was going to take the museum job. And that was when I said, I have to stop doing this. Like, I'm not writing. Right. I'm not like following my heart's desire. Yes.

I have to, but I don't have the writing job. I don't have the gig yet. So I still need a stupid job. And I can't, it cannot. be a job that I can like twist into something cool. Like it has to be stupid. So I was like it's got to be like postmates or something like that. Yes. And so I found um a delivery service. And I was like, I'm just going to deliver pizza. That's not cool. That's stupid. And I can't like be proud of that at all. I mean, Mitch and I have a different perspective on it. So a very noble profession.

Well, now I now that I have done it, I'm like, oh, it's like the coolest job ever. Like you're literally delivering pieces to people. People love you, like wherever you go. It's like being a joy. It's a joy bringer. It is. No, I felt beloved like a lot of the time. But what I meet,

what was so weird was like, what immediately happened was I expected like drudgery. I'm also very small. I'm like really scrawny. And it's like manual labor. Oh, yeah. Okay. I could imagine that being a full long day.

It's not a good idea. Like they have these big black bags. Like I could fit in the bags. Like, I'm like really, it's a bad job for me. Yeah. Which I also did on purpose. It's like, you're going to fucking hate your job. You're going to hate your job.

And it's going to pressure you to work harder. Yeah. It's kind of like doughboys, except it makes me work less, I guess. Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, it was a way to structure my day. And, and, and, but, you know, like, I thought it would be boring. I thought it would be stupid. And it ended up being like the fabric of,

of reality would break down, like when I was delivering pizzas. I would have the most bizarre experiences that made no sense and seemed like I was going into other dimensions at times. Like, it was like so bizarre. And I, I've never quite experienced something like that. And it was so many strange experiences. I can imagine because I also feel like when people are just ordering pizzas, like it can be a crazy party. It can be people who are fighting or someone who's doing

laundry. Someone in the middle of a big sports game. It's like a billion different things that can be happening when a pizza comes. You got an order that's like eight large pizzas and you're like, okay, they're having some sort of party and you show up and it's just Mitch making his own order. Yeah, that was like my first order was like eight or ten pizzas.

Wow. And so it was like $400 with a pizza. And I was like, this is a lot of pizza. And they were like, yeah, go deliver it. And I had to deliver it to Disney Studios. Wow. So I went there where at my age, I'm, how was I at the time? I was 30 at the time.

And that's when my dad started working at Disney was when he was 30. Oh, wow. So I was walking onto the lot like delivering pizzas. And I was like, I don't know. It was just a weird experience to be like, well, another generation is here at Disney. Gosh, thank you. I'm a little short on money. You didn't tip, Goofy?

What else do you do? I fucked Goofy. And that's what was so weird about that job. I don't want to talk about Goofy's dick. Hey, you know, on that note, we have an update. Marshal put our order in the oven at 943 p.m. So it's in the works. It's on the bake phase in the pizza tracker.

And Nick, we got a veggie pizza from Domino's, which I never really do. And I'm interested in seeing how it will be. I'm interested in seeing how this goes. And, you know, we mentioned earlier that you were a vegetarian, but you also like a pizza loaded with toppings.

I love loaded pizzas. Right. Yeah. You know, not someone who's just, because I like just a slice of cheese sometimes. I do too sometimes. I'm a slice of cheese guy, but but then it can be fun to have that big, like a supreme pizza too and have a slice of that. It's like almost, if anything, it's like I would almost like like a slice of cheese and a slice of supreme to kind of taste the two extremes.

Oh man. That's the Costco special. Yeah. That's true. It's pretty sweet. You spend $4. You're out of there. Yeah.

Yeah. I know. I know. You love Costco. But what do you go for it, please. Do you guys have every, the Trader Joe's frozen pizzas or no? I have had some of them. Is this troublesome subject?

No, not at all. No, we actually, we haven't talked about it too much, but I, I, when I first try that Trader Joe's pizza, I loved it. And it was like one of those things where I'm like, oh, this is like on a Sunday or something when I, when I would normally order pizza, I'd have just, I would just make one of those Trader Joe pizzas and save like 500 calories or whatever because they're not as terrible. They're kind of like the thin crust Italian pizzas that are, they're great. Right.

They make a really, really good frozen pizza, which we never did for. that when we did our frozen pizza competition, I think it would be... We didn't do the Trader Joe's ones. I think it would be way up there. Trader Giotto. Oh, Trader Giotto, right. He's got a different ethnicity. I've gotten the ones I've gotten from Trader Joe's, or maybe it's a Whole Foods one,

but there's the Amies. Like, I like, I think those Amies are pretty good. But, but yeah, the actual Trader Joe's ones, I think, though, those will do all right. I just don't do as much frozen pizza. But what do you, like, what do you like from the Trader Joe's case? I just had a regular cheese margarita. Yes. The other day.

I ate half of it. Nice. What else is really good in the pizza section? What did you do with that other half? I left it. I left it out all night. But that's okay. The next day,

I don't know. You can leave a pizza out overnight. Nick, how do you feel about this? I'm a little skittish about dairy left out overnight. I think you probably are okay because it's, you know, but yeah. There was a time where my. family moved towards like, oh, you put the pizza in the oven and then you eat it the next day

as leftovers. I know that sounds strange. Like you hide it in the oven? You put hide it in the oven? I would hide it in the, well, we would just, because the fridge, you know, the big pizza box, you can't fit the big pizza box in the fridge. Right. That makes sense to me. And so we would put it in the oven, but, but because that's like, I felt like a lot of other families did that. They were just like, oh, it's in the oven. Kind of traps the heat in there. Yeah. It's kind of warmish. Yeah, I can, I can see the principle. I don't know. I guess overnight in the. then that's like now I look back on it and I feel like how you do what I'm like I don't know if you should do that but I had a friend who I think he was out of state for a wedding I think he was

like in Minneapolis and he like and then he another night he like went out to dinner and got like a pizza and he had some leftover pizza took it back to his hotel room left it overnight in his hotel room got up took it home on the plane and then and then got back to his apartment and then ate it there. And I was like, that's insane. Like, I mean, it's just insane that he brought it on the plane. Yeah, I know. It's like, but I mean, it was just like one of those, he was one of those guys who was like super like, oh, but I, I paid for it. I want to make sure that I can eat all of that. You say dairy. See, because I'm always thinking of cheese pizza when I, when I think of

this too. And sometimes it would be tomato sliced pizza that I, like slices the tomato on the pizza that, that I'm thinking back when I was living at home and we'd leave it out or leave it in the oven. By the way, our, our, uh, pizza has moved on to the quality checks phase. This is, this is, What the fuck is that? I did, you know, it just says that the perfection check complete. It's dominoes, right? Yeah. Like what quality?

Oh, burn. Wow. You're talking about the tournament of champions. Also, I was going to say, Nick, you say don't leave dairy out overnight, but cheese is different, right? I mean, like, I mean, I know cheese is dairy. Don't, God. Well, butter is okay.

Like, you can leave butter in a butter dish. In fact, we do that at our place. My old college, my old college roommate, I like that. But then sometimes if it's out for too long, it's too much. It's only got the butter, if you leave butter out for too long. I like a soft butter. I like soft butter too, for God's sake. I'm saying that, what about beans in a can?

I'll leave those out. Okay. If the cans opened, I'll give it a day. I can give anything a day. I mean, like, I wouldn't leave like poultry or something out is like more so like how I. Yeah, that would be weird. But with, with like cheese, my old college roommate would leave, he would have cheese out that he just wouldn't refrigerate and he cut the top off of it.

And he just ate it. Weird. Grainah. Matt, Grainna. Did he create the, uh, simsa?

What the hell? You know, Matt Graney. I know, I know, I know, I got the joke. Matt Grana made the sims.

We all got it. Good. I'm glad you guys like and enjoyed the joke that I made. You're giggling and rattling back and forth. It's like, and clenching your fists. Yeah, you look like a baby and a crib.

crib, yeah. You're very excited about the simpsi. Grana, granite. Why am I saying his name wrong? I don't know. Makes me laugh. Great guy. But so, so, okay, so topping loaded pizza, what, like, what is, so what is your dream,

Zah? What do you like to have on there? Oh, man. Artichokes, olives. Artichoke, I'm a snob. I'm a snob. I am a snob. I know I'm on doughboys.

But I'm a snob. Right. I like that. at although fresh, have you guys had Fresh Brothers? I know we were sort of song. I like Fresh Brothers. I do like Fresh Brothers quite a bit of them. We were going to include them.

I like it. We were going to include it in our tournament. We didn't. But they're good. I like Fresh Brothers. Yeah. It's very solid. Fresh Brothers pizza.

What did I say? Artichokes olives. Do you do deep dish ever? Banish. Deep dish. Yeah. That's when it's low. Like thicker.

Yeah. Thick with two seas. yes like those pizzas um what else but i can also just do regular cheese also good right um can i can i tell you can i finish can i finish telling you about what it was like to deliver to to disney oh yes please oh yes we cut you off i'm sorry we got we got sidetracked by goofy's dick um by the way uh i think oh boy he's got an extra z in his name it looks like gray gore but it's got but he's got a Z before the first E. So it's like Grezegor left the store with your order at 9.52 p.m.

It's now out for delivery. This is blazing fast. It's so, so fast. Where you get this pizza before we hit the 30 minute mark? But go ahead. I want to hear the rest of your Disney anecdote. Okay, okay. Okay.

So I'm very nervous. I go, it's my first order. Yes. I have $400 worth of pizza. That's crazy. The bags are really big. Right. Really, really big.

And they're black, really big. And they're black bags. Right. And so I go, I'm like, okay, I'm going to deliver the pizza. I go and deliver them. It goes fine. Walk in Disney. When I come back,

I find that I've locked my keys in my car. And I'm parked in the fire zone. And it's my very first order. Oh my God. And I have locked my phone in my car too. So I can't tell my dispatcher what happened to me. So I feel like a fucking moron idiot. Like I feel bad about myself.

Like I'm like, you're a fucking idiot. You like that you did this? Do you like that you did this? It's your first order. What do you think about what you just did? Do you feel good about it? because I don't. So I went over to the security guy and I was like,

can you please help me? I need to call AAA. I locked my, he already didn't like me because it was like, it was like my first time going on this and I was like, hi, I'm here to like deliver pizzas. You know,

like I was already, I had already been obnoxious at the jump. So now I needed to help. But it actually went kind of fast. Like AAA came and I talked to my dispatcher and, you know, it was fine. I get in the car and I drive away. And I'm like, you know what?

That wasn't that bad. And, you know, I'm not such a bad person. Like, it's okay. Like, the only person that got bothered here was me. Like, they got their pizzas. The dispatcher's fine. And then I get a message from my dispatcher.

And this is us. I'm like texting my friend. Like, and then I decided that I wasn't such a bad person after all. And they're like, hey, you left your bags at Disney. Oh, no. Your bags are just sitting in the lot. Oh, my God. Oh, man.

This is a nightmare. Oh, my God. And I was like, I'm a cartoon character. Like, I, okay. So I am a bad person. Like, it's not even that I'm a bad person. I just don't exist. Like, this is just like, so I like drove back there.

And I went to the security guy and I was like, hey, like, I left my bags. And he's like, oh, did you leave those really big black bags? And I was like, yeah, I left those really big black bags. And I had been really embarrassed when I left my keys in my car. So I had shuffled off to the corner of the building. Right. And then left these big black bags. So they were like, oh, we thought that was a bomb threat.

Like we. Oh. my God. We called people to come over and check it into security. And I was like, oh, that, that's insane. That makes sense. I was like, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. That's totally crazy. What were the consequences of that? There weren't really needed. I went to security and I was like, hey. And I was like, hey. And I was like, you left my bags. And they were like, yeah, they're pretty big. And I was like, they are pretty big. Goofy was time. He was tied to a chair. chair in there.

There's only one way for you to get these bags. And that's when I sucked Goofy's dick. And it's big, you guys. Oh my God. It's crazy. I beg that dick. That story. That was my story.

Very graphic. It was so bad. That's crazy. I didn't even hear, I didn't even pay it. I hadn't heard that Goofy's Dick was involved in the last. And then I was like, oh, yeah, like Oofy's dick gotten involved in this somehow. Okay.

My phone is ringing. This might be great. Oh, wow. This is so fast. Hello. I'll go to the front door. Hi, how are you? My name is Nick.

How are you? Oh, you're right in front of the door. Maybe we're not hearing you knock. My friend's going to go, I'll let you in right now. Sorry, we didn't hear you. Apologize for that. Okay, thank you so much. All right.

Bye. Mitch is outside, getting the pizza right now. I'm like seeing myself as the pizza delivery person. I want to be like. That was incredible. incredibly efficient. Yeah, I already signed for it. It should be good.

Mitch is taking care of this transaction right now. God, I wish we could invite him in. Mitch is signing the order. Ariana, what was this? Did you have a lot of card transactions when you were delivering? A lot of signing. A lot of signing, okay. I didn't have like a credit card swiper that I would carry around.

Oh, got it. Okay. But people have to sign. And then you know, you're staring at them like, tip me. Right, right. You should tip me like a lot of money. Did you find that the cash tips, like how did the cash tips? I love cash tips.

Yeah, where those were always better in the card. Oh, because we just tipped on the card. So maybe we're assholes. No, no, actually, no, card tippers. Card tippers, you know, they have the little, you know how they'll indicate like, this is how much 15% is. Yes. So they'll, they'll usually go off of that.

Right. I just got complaints before I. Wow. This came so fast. This came so fast. We ordered about 30 seconds in the episode. The 21 minute mark. Wow.

This arrived. I don't know. The, the time. Simpson might not exactly line up with what you're hearing it as you're listening. But this came so fast. I asked Gregor, I said, you, he said, what are you doing? Is that for the radio? And I said, no, it's a podcast. He was, he was kind of, wait a man. So I did. He was a younger kid. Like, he was probably what, he looked 20-ish in this, or like, young 20s, I'd say. Yeah. And I was like, it's actually a podcast. It's called Dobyes. I said, you want to come in and say something? And he was

like, no. I got to get back to Domino. He was, he seemed very scared. maybe. Yeah, he was scared. I know that show, it sucks. Call me when you guys are married. All right. So let's crack into this order here and then we're going to get to our other bit of business.

I thought this was going to come at the end of the episode. This was going to be our big closer. It's loaded. It's loaded. Wow, that bad boy is loaded. I'm going to snack. Take a pick of this. Thank you.

Emma is going to grab plates for us. Emma's going to grab us plates or engineer. Do you know where they are in that drawer? If you go down the bottom drawer, drawer? I wore my pants. pizza. Below the utensils. My pizza tarot shirt. Wait, did you really? The pizza. Ariana's shirt, it's a tarot card. Well, this will be in the show picture, but it's a tarot card that says the pizza underneath it and it's a hand with some rings and

a snake coming, throwing between a slice of pizza. I should take a picture with the pizza. Oh, yes. And my tarot cards and my shirt. That's what I should do. I agree with it. I'll do that. No, we'll figure it out. We'll figure all that out when we're done recording. I also was telling Emma instructions on where these plates were into the microphone, not helpful at all. Thank you, Emma. She can still hear you. Thank you very much, Emma. All right, here we go.

Wow. Thank you. This is crazy. I think this reaffirms our decision, I think, to award Domino's the Thomas Cup for a tournament of top. Back off, you fuckers. Let's just dig in. This one looks oddly not cut well.

It really like, yeah, I don't, what kind of job did they do slicing this bad boy? Ooh, a very bad job. Wow. Oh, boy. Wow, that's very messy. There are no delineations. Yeah. No pizza delineations.

No wonder why it was so quick. Because I didn't give a shit. It's not. Oh, there we go. That's, I found a spot. Oh, you know what? I look on the pizza tracker. There's a spot.

There's a step that says, uh, slice the pizza. And there's just a big, they skipped it. Yeah. That's going to be, it's going to fall apart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

What a mess. Oh, no. There we go. Oh, well, there's one. You got one. I, by the way, when I say, what a mess. I'm referring both to the pizza and how this episode. is going at the moment as we're just trying to get ourselves slices of pizza. I'll also talk at the same

time. It's borderline incoherent. This does look good though. I got another slice here, Nick. Yeah, Mitch, can you pass me one? That would be great. Give your plate over here. There you are. Thank you. And we got some napkins in the center there as well. There you go. Sorry, that's the best I could do. All right, we're taking a bite of this. This does really look loaded with toppings. We see these very red pepper and black olive prominent. A lot of cheese on here. I mean, it's, it's like soggy with cheese. The nicest thing about delivering pizza is you don't get tired of pizza. Your car smells like pizza all the time.

But you deliver pizzas for a while, for however long, five hours. And then just the way they say jazz musicians play jazz all night and then go home and play more jazz. That's how it is with pizza. If you're delivering pizza, I would go home and order a pizza. That's crazy. And I loved it. That sounds, I mean, that's amazing. I still love it.

That's great that your passion didn't go. Because like, when I worked in video games, I was like, oh, my God, this is my dream job. And then I stopped playing video games for a time because they just got so sick of them. And I think that was common with a lot of people who work in video game development because, like, you got a PlayStation controller on your desk. Holding a PlayStation controller starts to feel like work. But that's awesome to hear that the principle does not apply to pizza that you can just like love pizza all the time. It's too lovable. Right.

I think I like ran a poll on Twitter once. So it's like, what are the, like, the foremost lovable things? We're trying to do. I think we had like pizza, dogs, Rihanna. And I don't remember what the other thing was. Those are some lovable. Yeah. A pizza with a, or a dog with a slice of pizza in its mouth.

Well, Rihanna plays. I put some cats up there too. I'll say cats was of work. Oh, this is, it's still good. It is, it's a very sloppy version of. Also, we, we almost got sick of pizza. just because people didn't realize with the tournament chop beans that we'd be doing two episodes in a day. Right.

And we would be doing the losers bracket. So people were like, they only had to eat two slices of pizza a week. And it wasn't. It was like there were days where we ate like eight slices of pizza. Yeah, it was insane. That's like a little kid's dream. That's different. But yeah, it's too much.

To me, I was just smelling it all day. It's like, you know, looking at a picture of your wife's ass all day. And then finally at the end of the night. Get to lift that Skirt up a little And there's a big pizza on our eyes Eat that pizza I know that feeling

We got a photo of my wife's ass Is my lock screen on my phone Oh my God That's not true I have the default background Because I never changed it Yeah Lame

Yeah that sucks So I will say that I This is I haven't eaten dinner and this slice of pizza I just had, I thought was great. I really liked it. I really liked it. It is a little sloppy tonight. It's a little sloppy, a little soggy.

It's kind of a mess. But it was just so satisfying. The crust was great. The cheese was great. The toppings really, it's loaded. That bad boy is loaded. I really enjoy it. It reminds me of watching Snick on Saturday nights.

Oh, okay. Come home. Was that your pizza night? That was a pizza night. Was it Saturday? Yeah, obviously, Saturday. Come home, have a mom. how the mom's going to order Domino's pizza

fucking watch some Sabrina and see some pizza. Mitch, you were a Friday night pizza guy. Yeah, Nick, thank you. Yeah, you remember. TGIF, that was your big. I was a GIF, yep. Oh, yes.

I don't know if we had a designated pizza night. I feel like Sunday nights would be when it would happen, but I think we would get it just any night of the week. My dad didn't feel like cooking, and he cooked most nights of the week. Emma, did you have a pizza night growing up? We did Fridays. Emma also said Fridays.

I wonder which one is more popular Fridays was that. I think it was because it was like the last day of the work week. Right. I'm like, I don't want to cook. Exactly. Yeah, that's great.

It's also great for the kids, too, because it feels like a reward. Um, hashtag, what's your pizza night? Let us know, uh, let us know if there was a night that growing up or now when you would get pizza with any sort of frequency. Um, this, this, hey, you know what? I just say, I'm eating my second's line. Don't bum them out though. What's that?

I'm saying don't bum them out. Don't, you don't want people to bum you out. I'm be like, it's every night. Oh, yeah. It's every night since she left me. whatever. Like, keep it fun like pizza. Yeah,

don't use your, don't use the hashtag to, you know, disclose your personal baggage. Fine, I won't tweet at it. I'm still flummoxed by how quickly that pizza game.

It was disorienting, but very, very impressive. I'm giving it in just a minute to, to, you might want to knife it a little bit. Yeah. Wow.

Yeah, it went so, it came so, so quickly. So, Ariana, we have another business we want to get to you in a second. with our grease-covered fingers, which we, you know,

are you comfortable doing that with greasy fingers? Do you want to take a break? Reading tarot? Yeah. I don't give a shit. Okay, great. I don't know. I don't want to damage your valuable cards.

Oh, no, they're not valuable. Okay, great. But before we get to that, I did have a question for you, and you're taking a bite of pizza right now, so I'll give you a second. But you are a fan of, we both know each other. You're done, right, with pizza? I might, I'll tap out for now, just in the interest of, of, of, uh, talking, yeah. But, um, the, uh, we know each other partly from a, a very active NBA group chat.

We're both members of. Yes, high intensity basket chat. High, it's very high intensity. It's a commitment. It's a, it's a, it's a commitment. It keeps me more busy than my job. It is, it's a lot of work. But, um, but you, uh, like, you wouldn't have it any other way. I wouldn't have it any other way. It's perfect. I love, I love the NBA. I love talking about it with my friends. But, um, I know from that. Jesus. What? That's a reasonable thing to say. That's what a normal man would say. I love talking about it with my friends. That's a reasonable thing to say. Sure. Okay, fine. Stop painting me as an odd ball. I'm a normal man.

I'll let you paint yourself, buddy. But you are a fan of the Denver Nuggets. Yes, I am. And I wanted to ask, how do you feel about chicken nuggets? I know you're a vegetarian, but Nuggets of any sort. Does this kind of a good shit come up? Is this his contribution to that? NBA group chat. This sucks. I haven't asked that in the NBA group chat. That's dope boys content. You can tell he wants to.

Yeah, I've been sitting on it for a while. Hey, by the way, we got we got cinnamon bites as well. That's right. We also got some cinnamon bites to nash on. You don't want them? I do want them. I love chicken nuggets. In fact, my father used to work for Kentucky fried chicken.

Whoa. Yes, I was born in Kentucky and my father worked in Kentucky Fried Chicken. That's amazing. Like the corporate headquarters or like a restaurant? I thought, I think I don't know. Yeah. It must have been corporate headquarters. Right.

That's so cool. But I thought I was born in a KFC for like a while. Why would you think that? Because I, because my parents were dumb and they liked to tease me. And so I thought that I was born in a KFC and they're like, obviously you're born in the hospital. And it sucked. But that is what I thought when I was a little kid for a little while.

They just deceived you and you just like took it as took it seriously for a long time. Yes. That was like my brother told me that I had a, that he had a robot hand. like Luke Skywalker and Empire Strikes Back. He said that he got his hands caught in the dump garbage disposal. This all checks out for me and with the Wager family.

And they replays it. And I thought it was so cool because I'd see that movie and be like, oh, that's like the hand my brother has. And then I just found out he was lying to me. Like too late.

It was like, it was too old. It was this year. Yeah, yeah. How are those cinnamon sticks? I pass them over this way. I want to take a dip of a wanted ease. But, but so, When, so your dad worked at,

I'm pro chicken nuggets. Your dad worked at KFC. When did you stop? Like, when was the last time? Because you're, how long have you been a vegetarian now? Um, I, well, 2007. Oh, so it's been a while.

Yes. So it's been a while since you added. I'm a pescatarian. Okay. I'll eat a fish. Yeah. Um. That's, that, that is way more livable to me than.

It is. Yeah. Yeah. I may, I've been craving meat lately. Yeah. Maybe I'll go back. I don't know if I could I don't know if I could do

I could do vegetarianism more than I could do I couldn't be a vegan I'm sure I couldn't be a vegan and I don't think I could do either yeah but a vegetarian I could do for a day you eat that much meat no I don't I don't eat that much

I do I probably do have some protein every day like poultry or I try not to do beef yeah I'll say about these cinnamon sticks. I was, I was away from the mic for a while, because there was a lot of chewing to get through this. It's, it's, it's got a lot of texture to it. I thought this was

quite good. Like, as these, as pizza place desserts go, you're never going to get up with a home run. But I think this was a nice execution of a cinnamony dessert. I liked how crispy it was. I liked the crunch that it got from that pizza oven. I liked how, I like the cinnamon dip in sauce. It was very, it's very much like, this is like Cinebonny. It was like it's approximates a And the dough tastes different enough, I felt like. It does. It absolutely does. Yeah, it's more of a pizza dough, less of a less of that, you know, that softer sort of cinnamon roll traditional done. Dude ofish, boy, what I'm trying to say. Traditional cinnamon roll bun. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say. there you go. Jesus Christ.

A fucking mess. But yeah, I thought that was quite good. Hey, that was why. That was what a wild experience. What a whirlwind. We've never done this before. We've never, we've never ordered at the start. We've always talked about doing this.

We've talked about doing this. And we decided, we'll give it a go. And then that would, that happens so quickly. I'm disoriented. It did happen fast. Yeah, I really did. You're all right, Nick. Just take a breath, I guess.

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Yes, I do. Dream City Terro is your company. That's true. How did you get into this originally? I used to read cards at parties. Okay. And then I got a real deck. And I used to read like bicycle carts just for fun because I hated small talk.

Yeah. So I wanted to talk about something else. I want to talk about like what was really going on with people. And the cards were like a nice excuse. And then I got an actual ride or wait deck, which I'll show you guys, which I can now like bring out. Very cool. Strapped in a sky. Do you know I'm getting A.S.

SMR vibes. Like, like, uh, like, like, and I think it's like the situation. Right. And like a, well, we are, we are, uh, you know, casting a spell and entering into a trance. Oh, I'm getting, I'm getting big time A SMR. Yeah. Mitch is, Mitch is, uh, famously afraid of, uh, ghosts and ghoulies and goblins. Are you superstitious?

I very much so. The devil in particular. Why? Oh, my. What if you get the devil in this reading? You could. Can you really? Oh, you absolutely can. I'll talk to it. I'll talk to it.

I'll be right here. I'll be right here. I'll be right here. This is terrifying. Oh my God. What if he comes up? What does the devil card mean? I'll tell you if you get him, baby.

So Ariana is striking a match. So Ariana is going to read tarot for Mitch. Is that how you'd say it? You were going to read tarot for him? And I'm not, this is something I have never, I'm aware of, and I've seen some of the cards. And you've explained some of the cards to me, but I don't really know this world at all.

I've never experienced this firsthand. In our basketball chat, I often, I've been trying for a while to find a crossover between basketball and taro. Right. Which I believe I'm, you know, starting to find the connections. But I often will, like, just post cards in the chat being like, this is what's happening right now. Like, this is like, this is just like this card. I'll do shit like that. Right.

And then, I know you had, sorry, keep going on. Well, what were you going to say? I was going to say, I know you had some music you wanted me to play, some music. Spooky music. This is Master Wilburn Bershette. I think this is from the 1970s when, you know, witchcraft was like really Stevie Nixie. Right.

You know. Do you want me to start it now? No, nothing bad can happen with... Nothing bad can happen, no. Terror cards. No, nothing bad can happen. Mitch? Except you might learn more about yourself.

Mitch, I should warn you, this song is called Birth of a Witch. What the fuck? And man, if Irma's flying around the room tonight. All right. So why are you superstitious? Tell me a little bit about your ghost background or why you have superstitions. Well, I've talked about it a little bit, but I've always, I've always, I mean, I was raised

Catholic, but not very like, not like, not like, not like super Catholic family, just like a little bit. And we went, I went to church up until like fifth grade or fourth grade. And then kind of like after that, not very religious at all. but I prayed and stuff like that. And I've just, I've always gotten, I've always believed, because I mean, I'm, I'm that sort of way, Nick, where it's like, yeah, I don't,

who knows what goes on in this universe? Who knows the kind of the agnostic belief of, of we can't know what there is out there. It could all be a cosmic accident, but it could be something more. It could be something more. It could be a world where there's a, uh, hell, hell fire underground.

There you go down and there's a guy with hooves and horns and he has a pitchfork and he pokes me in my butt. That's, that is scary to me. Yeah. And I feel like I've gotten in a couple of instances, I've just gotten like the sense, like I've gotten vibes and feelings and stuff in different, in different places, which to me. You think you might be an intuitive.

Very, I've never seen anything. I've never, but that would be very, I would like it. But you felt something. I felt, I felt, I felt, I felt, oh my God. I just saw the devil card. No, you didn't. Oh, okay, few. Wait, you?

No, it's just, there's a guy with red pants. Yeah. Also, let me tell you, Mitch is an unintuitive. I know that from knowing him well. So let me explain a little bit of what's happened. Ariana has lit a candle. There is a crystal of some sort, a number of different crystals around here. There is a piece of wood, and then there is something that looks like a big old reefer, I got to say, just sitting there.

A big bundle of, I mean. I mean, I'm in hog heaven, baby. Oh, my God. Wait a minute. Austin Powers mixed with Stoner? Yeah, I don't know. I kind of went into half Bill Clinton there, too. Hey, by the way,

speaking of Hollywood Bowl, this is the interest to no one. It's a long callback. I'm going to take Nick to a Dave Matthews concert, the Hollywood Bowl. That sounds like so much fun. I'm very excited. In September.

Yeah. And I was going to say, this kind of, this setup on my table looks like probably the setup will be on the Dave Matthews day. Hell yeah. Why are they into this shit? Maybe we'll get a, oh no, I'm saying maybe. Oh, the reef.

Okay, got, got it got. We'll spark up a J and pass it around. And have some crystals. Yeah. We'll hold crystals before the show. All right, so Ariana is shuffling, a very elaborate shuffle of this deck. Would you mind lowering Master Rule? I absolutely can lower him.

Just a little bit. I'm going to have a couple notches. Okay. I just, I'm really into this guitar grimoire that is playing. He's great. He's crazy. Um, so witchcraft is not really like, you know, there's nothing mysterious or, uh, whether it's not, you know, a lot of times people are like, magic isn't real.

Like, terror's not real. Astrology is not real. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, that's not the point. Right. Really? Yeah. So none of this stuff is about trying to trick you into thinking that.

something exists that I got you know what I mean I watched American Horror Story Season 3 I believe is the witch season uh did you watch I watch it no and uh Stevie Nick shows up at one point and is it is a witch whoa like in the world she is Stevie Knicks and she is a witch it's very funny choice I wish I could see that you can you got it you can still you can still watch it it's not too late all right the cards are face up they were briefly face up and now they are, they've been cut. There's one of the cards has a toilet with a piece of pizza in it, which is perfect for tonight. So what I'm going to have you do, I'm going to have you shuffle these cards.

Okay. And meditate on something that you'd like some guidance about. Okay. And then when you're ready, you're going to set them down before me. So just shuffle them like I'd shuffle a deck of cards? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. I'm curious about what, no wrong way. Yeah. It's like a Reese's peasant. a buttercup. And I assume Mitch is not supposed to tell us what he is meditating about. I'll ask him if you'd like to share once he's finished concentrating. He is a, he's shut.

I mean, these are very large cards and they're appropriate for Mitch's gigantic baseball mitt hands, his shaved bear paws. Can I do that? Can I shuffle him like that? Yeah. Okay. You can do little tricks, whatever you like. I'm just doing a nice little manual shuffle.

That's all good. I like that right there. Okay. And then just here, I'll do that because I feel like that's good. Okay. I concentrated. I put my hand on and I concentrated. Very cool.

I'll have you cut the deck once for me. Okay. And do you want to share what's on your mind or do you want to keep it to yourself? I was thinking about career. Okay. Family. Friends. Everything.

Wally and Irman and romantic life. Okay. So the whole kid, The whole kit and caboodle. Okay. Then in that case, we're going to do a 10 card Keltacross. Okay. Which is going to take a look at all that stuff.

By the way, Mitch, interesting that you didn't include Wally and Irma in friends or family. You think of them as some other. They're above. Are those your pets? They are, yes. Okay. I'm psychic, you see. He's got two very, very cute cats.

Okay. Oh, this is interesting. Okay. Okay. So, Ariana is arranging the cards in a sort of a, a cross formation. You described as a Celtic cross. It's called a Celtic cross.

Got it. I'm nervous. This is great for you to, you should keep doing this describing what's going on. I will try. Yes. No,

it's great. Okay, good. It feels like you're announcing, being an announcer. I'm trying to give some context as an audio media. It's great. I have the king of wands

and I hope that he's good and somewhat. Okay. Ooh. All right. So at the heart of the matter, is in the center here. Okay.

So that this indicates, this is, the heart of the matter is what the cards that kind of reframe your question for you. Okay. And this is the hub around which your life is kind of turning. Okay. Essentially. So there's a lot of,

and we're going to get deep right now. Is that cool? Yeah, that's okay. Okay. There's a lot of desire to hang on. This is a, this is a, these are cards. that have trouble letting go. Oh, man, you have Mitch Pagged.

I know, we're going to get wild probably. This is a man who's had it in the same Captain Fasma figuring and a bottle of wine on his, in the same place on his table for a year. That's true. But, you know, it makes sense, though, because you don't want to let go sometimes. If you grew up and you didn't have the security that you needed,

once you actually can get a little bit of that for yourself, It's like, it's impossible to believe that you should let it go ever. That's what you hang on to. Yeah. But so on the bottom here is this guy. So he's, the four of pentacles shows a king sitting on his throne. He's hanging onto the pentacles quite tightly. It kind of scares me.

And he's a little scary. He's got a lot of pentagrams, right? Yes, these are called pentacles. Oh, they're pentacles because they're not upside down. Correct. Got it. And he's kind of like, he, he has a little bit of a scary look,

but he also has a look of petulance. Like he's a little bit like mine. Like he's gripping on tight. I got you. You know? Yeah. And this is a card you see when, once you have like all pentacles represent the material world.

So when you have acquired what you need to now thrive instead of just survive, if you don't open up to the idea of sharing what you have, or letting go of what you have, that's how greed kind of form. Interesting. That makes sense. You know what I mean? Yes.

Because if you're not in survival mode and you're hanging on, that's greed. I got you. That's interesting. So. And there's also, I can read that in a couple different ways.

I don't know if I'll say something about stuff. Like, no, I'm curious. Maybe a greed of holding on to the lifestyle I live in some ways. Oh, interesting. Yeah. This is,

what are you holding on to? The fact that I get to, I live a nice bachelor life. Yeah, I get what you mean. This, I mean, yeah, I see that there. And then this guy compounds that. This is, so while this is the material world, this is the emotional world as well. Okay. And he is also, this is the four of cups.

So it shows a lad sitting under a tree and there's a cloud handing him a cup. Kind of a wigerish fellow. He is a little wigerish. I'll take the compliment. Yeah. He's got a nice style. Yeah, he's got a little nice stuff. Sitting there under a tree, very boring day.

He's already got three cups and another cup is coming his way. Another cup is coming his way being held out to him by a cloud. He's sitting pretty. Which really is like a miracle? Like that's bizarre. And he won't look up and take it. So. Oh.

Okay. Yes, that's where this one's going. Interesting. So this guy, while this guy's hanging on to his material stuff, he's hanging on to emotions. This is the kind of like obsessive. wall pool card. You know what I mean? Oh, wow.

And he, it's like when you get caught in a little river, in a little rivulet when you're white water rafting or something like that. Yeah. It's also, sometimes you see it when you haven't, when you have a hangover. Like that's sort of like, I don't want to drink anymore. Like this is, oh, sure. This is too much. I get that.

Oh, I get this a lot. You know? Yeah. Yep. This makes sense in many ways. Yes. Yes. So the, this card comes around to be like, there.

The miracle's here. Like look up and accept that it's here. So both these cards at the heart of the mouth, they don't necessarily indicate that this is happening to you. It's just your subconscious worrying about it all. Do you know what I mean? It's not trying to judge you. I am diagnosed obsessive-compulsive.

So, you know, do you know that about me, Nick? I think so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that hub, you know. That's that fear. out there. I get that.

In the past position, King of Wands. So this represents the past position. There's a redheaded man sitting on a throne. He looks very regal. And he's something out, yeah, a stick. A long, long wand. Little green leaves coming out. Can you clarify what the significance of the past position is?

The past position indicates the lessons you've already learned. Oh, got it. So this King of Wands, so this is the kind of stuff. You're like, I don't need to worry about that. I went through that. I'm good. Got it. You know, like that kind of stuff.

Okay. So this indicates that you have a, incredibly creative person. I mean, this is stuff you already know. You have a very creative personality. That's good for Nick to hear. It's true. You are creative.

I hope I'm bringing you guys closer together. He seems mad. Nick, your card there would be blank. I wish we had time to do both. So this is, he's very active as well. He's very charismatic. He's like, People love his energy.

You do a talk show sometimes, right? Yeah, yeah. This is like this. Oh, okay. That's what it's like. This is very much like what's going on. Oh, yes, yeah. That's, that's funny.

And also, that's funny because that does feel more past. That wasn't your past. Yeah. And it does feel more like, like, I felt, I felt more outgoing back, you know, like even five or six, you know, five or so years ago. Yeah. So. You still have. Yeah.

I still have it. It's just like, you never need to worry about. whether or not you can, like, um, express yourself in an energetic way or something like that. Or have, um, active, like,

director type quality and stuff like that. Because the king of ones is just, he energizes everybody around to him. Everyone wants to be close to him and like, no, his, that's very Mitch. It's true.

Nick will disagree in some way. No, you're, you're a gregarious man with charisma's natural as gravity. Everyone wants to be around you. It's true. If I compliment Nick, he like looks at,

I don't know, if I compliment Mitch, he looks at Nick like, like checking in and also like waiting for, I don't know something bad is coming. I know. That makes that a lot of making sense here. So this card indicates your conscious position. So this is the thing you talk about with your friends.

This is like what's on your mind. Oh, okay. It's like what you're ready to share. Okay. Wheel of Fortune is very much like, who knows, man? Like, Wheel of Fortune is like, things are just rolling along. I better catch the opportunities as it come. Like, it's just very rolling on down.

thousand percent right so the most right maybe of all the the most accurate of all yeah that's yeah so and this one this one has a uh it's like the to describe the card it has like a woman standing next to a lit up board and like and pat say jack is there and it says mount and then the bottom says ushmore and one of the letters is blank and this card comes up when you're in jeopardy mount cushmore hey all right buddy I don't want to smoke message. So is that, and is there any significance of the position of that card that's above the center? This is what's above. Okay. This is what's above. This is what's above the surface. This is what you have no problem chatting about with your friends. This is like, yeah, we're doing

this. Here we are. Bado do, but do, do, but do. Under the surface, unconscious. What's latent, what hasn't been said. What's what you know but haven't articulated yet. This is interesting. So we're going to talk about this. This is the night of pentacles. All the knights have a goal. They're very focused on their goal. They're very obsessed with their suit. He's obsessed with pentacles. He's obsessed with, pendicles are about stability and trust.

And so he's very obsessed with doing things in a cautious, careful way, piece by piece. He's the slowest night of all. Interesting. I mean, that tracks. Is that track? The slowest night? He's the very, but he's slow because he wants to do a good job.

Like he's like obsessed with efficiency and making sure things are, that I'm curious. Sometimes it's why I don't even get started. And that is, I think, I think there's an understanding of like, I have to get started, but it has to be good. Right. And it has to be done piece by piece by piece. I need 18 days to reply to this email and say, sounds good.

Wow. Not your therapist, guys. But that's interesting to me. This also indicates, could indicate a figure in your life. Okay. You know what I mean? Interesting. Okay.

If there's someone who you admire or interact with often that kind of moves in that way. Not Nick. Definitely not Nick. Susser. Maybe it's Susser. I don't know. I think that horse would be doing a little worse if Susser was on his back. Is he a large man?

Yes. Is that a large person? in the future position. Now, this is a crazy card to see after all we've spoken about. So it's a man walking away from these cups, walking off into the distance. Interesting. And this is the card of leaving your past behind. This is the card of letting go.

Wow. Which is incredible to see after these other cards. So it says you're going to be moving into the energy of growing weary of the life you've had. where there's no, not your entire life. Yeah. But things where the energy has fallen away and we can just tell, you've, things aren't. It's heavy, right? Yeah, that's scary.

But there's, I mean, that's the Los Angeles. That's everything with. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's a, that's a billion people's thoughts with Los Angeles. Right. Oh, Tileaf. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, that's always, I love my hometown. There's always, there's always thought. But it's not, but that doesn't necessarily mean just like, oh, I'm going to abandon. and all of my hopes and dreams and go back to that that that also be moving forward right? Yeah. It's more like letting go of stories that don't make sense in your life anymore. Okay. Stories you're telling yourself that actually aren't true anymore.

Okay. For whatever reason. Yeah. Like that story about that time you stepped on a beehive you always tell. Well, that's true. Maybe it doesn't serve you anymore. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. definitely if there's anything you don't have to like actually physically leaving a place very rarely takes care of anything going on in your head or your heart right you know it's nice to take a trip and clear your mind sometimes yeah but you know nobody really abandons any anything or anybody can only really abandon yourself so that's the essence of this card is to just interesting okay let go of um things from the past that just don't make sense anymore. Right.

But there is a way to... That does make sense. And it's talking specifically to the idea, to me, it's talking specifically to the idea that you will be unsafe if you let go of these things. Okay. That's, to me, says, that's what that card indicates to me. That is, because, I mean, that's part of your, like, fear, right? Mitch is that you are afraid, like, that you have,

so, you get so much comfort from things being familiar and things like, for sure. And, you know, even for things being in the place where you know they're supposed to be. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a relatable thing for a lot of people. Yeah, definitely. Here's my question regarding this card. So we've got like a guy with a red cowl, or not a cowl, like a red cape walking away from, it looks like eight cups, right? It looks like I just drank those eight cups. My, my question, and then there's a moon with a little face up in the sky. My question is, why is this guy leaving this cup collection? He's got all these cups. Good question, Nick. Hold on to them cups. Such a good question. He leaves in frustration. Oh, wow. He leaves because these cups, because for some reason, cups represent emotions. Right. And you see this card, a cynical way to look at it sometimes is breakups. Oh, got it. Where it's just fucking not working. Yeah. And you leave really frustrated that it didn't work when you wanted it to work so bad. Right. And it didn't. And the cups are still standing and you have to leave knowing these cups are still standing that you had just wanted to drink from. And it's not working. Wow.

And that's why they're still upright like that, which is really intense. Yeah, that's crazy. It's a lot. But, um... Damn. So those are... It's like really happy shit. So you've talked through these, uh, these six cards that are in this, this like kind

of plus shape formation. This is the, um, the feminine side. Got it. And then you've also got these, these other four cards that are kind of in a column, uh, over, yeah, The masculine staff. To your right. Yes. So this was the...

To represent Mitch, maybe we should take that down to two cards. Oh, what the hell? Why did you see Mitch's dick, man? Well, I can answer. Wait, have you seen it before? I don't know if I've seen your dick, yeah.

Have you seen next door? It's going to be a double episode. We're going to look at each other's dick. I think it's going to be pretty short. What is that? What is that? The, uh, a short episode? sort of all around.

What's that, what's that the, the thing in Japan where they think that their penis is getting smaller? Do you know what I'm talking about? This is like a phobia or it's like, oh, I don't, I don't know of it. I get so scared that it does shrink. They get so nervous. I think I have that. Anyways, let's get onto this masculine staff. Okay.

Anyway. All right. So we just, we just dealt with the, uh, the situation. This, this, this part of the cross represents situation. This represents stuff outside the situation. This represents you. This card has it all. This is the bottom card.

This is actually, this is like, this card is the winning the lottery of taro. Oh. This is like the greatest card of all. Wow. So you may know that you're a lucky boy. Wow. Like you may be aware that you're a lucky, lucky boy. Sometimes, yeah.

Yeah. I do feel that way. This is the, is this the nine of cups? Is that what this is? He's sitting here. He can pose like that, right? Yeah. There you go.

He's sitting. He has a very smart. Wait, I'll take a picture. I'll take a picture of this. that's funny it does it's kind of so he's sitting

with all those cups yeah he has a kind of cat ate the canary look on his face he has a little head dress and there's a bunch of a bunch of cups above his head so there's a kind of

understanding of like also this card is something you see when you eat and drink with lust and robustness you know what I mean like it reminds me of like feasting

and stuff like that's Mitch to a tea yeah so it's like there's a part of you that knows there's so much great enjoyment of like the sensual world in your life. You know what I mean?

For sure. In your environment, this represents people in your life, essentially, the night of cups. So a lot of artists, like a ton, like the night, again, all the nights are like really obsessed with their goal. And Cups is not only emotions, but the arts and everything like that. Okay. Right. And this night does not like to deal with reality.

Like this is a night that would much rather like space out and, and never wants to take responsibility and all that kind of stuff. For sure. So there's a lot of people who are just like incredible musicians and creators and all like that kind of stuff. But they're not necessarily going to take a lot of responsibility.

Okay. You know what I mean? Hey, I love not taking responsibility. Well, it's not, it's people outside of you. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? It's like your environment is full of people like this, essentially. Okay.

You know? That actually is true to some degree. I mean, you get a lot of guff for it, Mitch, but you are also surrounded by people like that. It's nice, though. Like, people, like, the night of cups is really, like, sensitive and loving and caring. Sure. And loves to be in tune with everybody.

But there's also moody and, like, you know, throws a fit. Yeah. Get drunk or whatever. Here's my question. So we got the night of cups. He's holding a cup. We got a lot of cups stuff here. Did you think because this is Mitch that all these cups contain Mountain Dew?

Do you drink a lot of Mountain Dew? No. I mean, I like Diet Dew. And I do like Mountain Dew. do, but I own a lot of cups myself personally. That's true. I think it's trying to say that you're really sensitive. I am.

That's true. I think it's trying to say you're sensitive psychic. So this is good luck in my future in a way? This is you. This is you moving through the world. Oh, okay. This is your attitude. Oh, all right.

That's right. That's absolutely true. Yeah. This is like when people see you, they go, ah. That's a nice surprise to me, but I like that. Yeah. Hmm.

It means relief to people. A delivery man who has to get rid of his food. And then the knight of cups, you were saying he's just, he's a sensitive man, but... He's immature. Okay. So this is the hopes and fierce position. This is a really powerful card to see after all that we've talked about. So at the beginning, we were talking about, you know, him hanging, this guy hanging on tightly to all of his, you know, things.

Yeah. Right? And what this indicates, and it's in the hope. and fears position because sometimes your hopes and fears are the same thing. Yeah. So I often think of as like the advice card of the deck. I like to pair the future with this advice card. Yeah.

So in the future position, as you're learning to let go of the past, this is here to remind you, the Ten of Pinnacles is like ultimate stability. Like this is like, it doesn't matter what you do. You are safe. No matter what. It goes beyond what you even think that you can control. Interesting. This is like deep institutional stability.

Okay. It's so staple that it's almost conservative. Like this is something you almost see when like people don't even want to change anymore. Oh, interesting. Because they're so tied to their ways. But it's here to say there you can't like fall apart. It's not going to happen. Hmm.

Because you have this kind of like, you have everything you need. You have food in your fridge and money in your pocket and all that kind of thing. Yeah. Reassuring. This card also comes up. All the tens are ends of cycles. So it also indicates an end to a material cycle that you've been going through, which is good, because it means that you move forward and have like this new cycle where you kind of level up in terms of how you trust, how you put yourself out into the world and what you hang on to. Interesting.

So to me, it's excellent. Like to me, this is like such an excellent way to move forward. Yeah. To know that it's not going to be. scary because you really can't like fall you're going to be caught. Oh, interesting. Okay. And whatever you do. I like that. This is such an interesting like from a, from an, from an art perspective, this card, because you've got these pentacles that are dotting all over it. And then you've got like two dogs in the corner, right? Oh yeah. Those little dogs,

they're cute. And then you've got these, uh, these, these people in the middle. This one guy's, you know, it's kind of like that painting and good fellas, like one guy, one dog's going one way. Other dog's going another way. And this guy's like, what do you want from me? It's like the guy just kind of looking at us. Like, I don't know what I don't know what his attitude is. You know what I want to do right now? I want to make you Joe Pesci and go. Take you to an empty house.

I think getting made. And oh, no. Then I don't even get the second syllable out. My brain gets exploded. So my mom can give me an open casket of the funeral. Oh, my God. She wouldn't want to anyway. I just saw that movie for the first time.

Did you really? And the Godfather. I saw them both for the first time like a month ago. What did you think? great. Yeah. I like live tweeted the Godfather. It was great.

I actually remember you live tweeting the Godfather. Yeah. But what did you think of Goodfellas? I liked it. Yeah. It was brash and brassy. Yeah, it is very brassy. And I didn't know Jennifer Melf.

I didn't know. I didn't know Jennifer Melfie was in there. Oh, so you knew Sopranos, but you didn't know that that was her one of her big roles. No, I had no idea. So I had like, oh my God. I had like, this is so smart. Right. That they did that because then people watching Will

speak of Goodfellers. Oh my God. Like I don't know. I felt stupid. I think Tony Syrico, Polly Walnets also has a small part. Oh really? Yeah.

Much younger. Yes. Christopher. Yeah. No, no. Yeah. Christopher Malthusanti is in it. Yeah, yeah. He's a spider.

Yeah. Yes. That's funny. Poor spider. One last question about the night of cups because I've understood everything, but you're saying that it's a little immature, but then also others around me don't live in reality? They don't like to.

This is a card of like, oh, do I have to? Yeah. there's a little bit of like, can't someone else do it? It's like, no, you need to do it. It's like, I don't want to, though. I want to paint my picture. That's me who wants to paint my picture?

No, this is the people in your life. Okay. Interesting. I mean, this could, well, that's a little cynical. I mean, you also asked about love. And the Night of Cups definitely is somebody coming along trying to give their heart to you. Oh, yeah.

So, just something to keep in mind. Got to reply to those texts. Your text? Oh, my God. Do you know what this is like? Okay. See that he's coming in? along with this cup. Is someone trying to give you a cup?

Remember when we were looking at the beginning of the card, like someone's trying to give you a cup and you're not seeing it? Arianna is holding up the one of the first cards we looked at, the man pouting under the tree with the cup. And the cup, and the cloud is giving him the cup. And maybe the night of cups is trying to give you a cup and trying to help you fall in love. The overall outcome is the page of cups.

This is extremely sweet to see. So this is the one at the very top of the shaft. This is the comment on the whole spread. Oh, interesting. And the page of cups, all pages are. bring a little message. And what I think is so beautiful about this guy is he doesn't have any baggage at all, because pages are just child energy.

Mitch, didn't you used to be a page? I was a CBS page. Yeah. Really? That's so cute. Page of CBS. You can alter that to look like it. Does this guy also take trash to the dumpster behind prices, right?

He does have a little fish popping out of his cup, like an old fish. It's delicious. He's, uh, he is so sweet. He's here to say, be loving, be open, be intimate, be honest. Oh. Make it some connection. Open your heart. Hmm.

Hold someone's hand. That's very sweet. It's very sweet. It's like, it's really here to say, like, there's nothing to worry about. That's very nice. It's really, really sweet. And it's like, just remembering, just if you can walk around remembering this little page, and how happy he is to move through life

and share smiles. You know, like, he's just a very, like, open-hearted guy. That's very nice. And it's very nice. I like that a lot. It's very sweet. And so he's here to, you know, spiritually connect with you as you move forward and understanding what stability really means to you.

Right. You know? That's great. And safety. and stuff like that. And that's your tarot spread. That was great. That's amazing.

That was great. Wow. That was so cool. God, what a journey that. It's fucking crazy. Jesus. Oh, my. Alexa is yelling at us.

No, quiet, Alexa. I don't know why she thought she heard her name. It's trying to tell us that George H.W. Bush celebrates milestone for some reason. Oh, okay. All right. Thanks, Alexa. It also said there was a thing that came up just a second ago that someone is going to be starring in the Shining sequel.

Oh, why are they making that? Oh, no. Is your background jelly beans? That's not, the background changes. That's a preset. Jesus, come on. Is that why there's a bite in your Alexa? Stop saying her name.

Alexa. I'm not quite sure how to help you with that. That was, that was intense. That was amazing. It's really intense. Terra is wild. It's a really wild thing. I mean, thinking about a lot of different.

different things. Would you like to take a picture? Sure. Oh, of course. Oh, just spread? Yes. Yeah. Yes.

Hold on on my phone over to you, Mitch. And I'll let you at least snap a picture because you got a better angle. That's crazy. I love it. I find it to be, well, it takes you, it really will take you places. Right. But it's a very compassionate mirror. Yes.

Like you very rarely going to see something where it's like, and you're fucked. Right. You know, like you never, you never really see something like that. Unless L Diablo rears is. Yeah. Well, he's, I'm so glad that that didn't come up actually. I was so sure I was going to get some. sort of death card at some point, but I'm happy I didn't.

Yeah, that was very optimistic. Mitch, how are you feeling? I feel good. Yeah, it was good. A lot of stuff to think about, you know? Yeah. It's intense. Yeah, but great. Thank you so much. And it's all bullshit. It does feel like the takeaway to me, to, for, for me, as a passer by, observing that, but as someone who knows you, Mitch, I like, to me, that's like, it's, it's, it's kind of paints a portrait of who you are as a man and is basically kind of telling, to me, what I got from that is like you have such a support structure and then you also have so many qualities that are so likable and lovable.

Yeah. And that maybe you should be less afraid and be willing to take more risks because you know that your friends are going to be there and you're going to have. And support you and love you so much. Yeah. And that's pretty nice. That's pretty nice. I think that's exactly right.

Yeah. I'm going to quit, no boys. Yes, I came to do what I meant to do. It's all my plan for years. Ariana Lanarski, that was quite a. journey, quite incredible to see. At Dream City Taro, you can follow her, you can follow her company on Twitter. And you also, your personal Twitter, shout that out. Sure. Yeah, Ardvarsk, A-A-R-D-V-A-R-S-K. And anything else you would like to plug it this time? Uh, no, right, I don't know. Just get some,

I read, I read, you know, very affordably, it's like on a sliding scale, contact me for reading. Yeah, you want to read. Reach on out. I'm going to figure out what, I want to see Knicks at some point. We'll have to do this again. We'll have to, we'll have to, uh, we'll have to, uh, see mine. Okay. I'm very excited. I'm excited too. I want to do it tonight.

Hope I get some minions cards. Oh, God. That's this week's Do Boys Double. Bye. See ya. Hey, Spoon Nation and Burger Brigade. Catch the Doe Boys live before the end of 2018. Mitch and I will be in San Diego, November 30th,

Brea, December 5th, and Phoenix on December 13th. For tickets and info, go to headgum.com slash live. Don't make us perform for no one. That was a hate gum podcast.