Doughboys - Wahoo's Fish Taco with Eliza Skinner

Episode Date: September 6, 2018

The hilarious Eliza Skinner (Cool Playlist, The Late Late Show) joins the 'boys to talk about Virginia eats, her experience as a radio DJ, and her latest visit to Wahoo's Fish Taco. Plus, an exchanging of ghost stories and a hops-focused edition of Strange Brewdogs.Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Huntington Beach, California, commonly known as Surf City. The Orange County Towns official name and nickname are linked to the same source, industrialist and railroad tycoon Henry Edwards Huntington, who, having purchased large tracts of its land area for his railway company, gave the city his name when it was incorporated. In 1907, Huntington took a vacation to Hawaii, where he was transfixed by locals partaking in a curious outdoor activity involving coasting on ocean waves atop shaped wooden boards, a long-standing Pacific Islander tradition known as surfing. Sensing a business opportunity, Huntington the Man brought the sport to Huntington the

Beach by importing George Freeth, a part Irish, part native Hawaiian surfing virtuoso who had studied in Oahu under legendary surfer Duke Kahanamoku. Huntington marketed Freeth the Californians as a circus curiosity, and so Cal locals gathered to gawk at the man who walked on water. Despite his athletic prowess, Freeth died at just the age of 35, felled by the global flu pandemic of 1919, but his early demonstrations launched surfing culture in the Golden State as surf clubs and board shops quickly cropped up along local beaches. The Polynesian pastime spread beyond the Tony oil-rich town of Huntington Beach to

SoCal's working class communities, including the suburb that bordered Surf City to the east, Costa Mesa. And that's where, in 1988, Ed Mingo and Wing Lee, a trio of Chinese-Brazilian brothers whose father had operated a restaurant in São Paulo, came together to open a Chinese-Brazilian Mexican concept built around their love of surf culture. Just as Huntington and Freeth had introduced the now omnipresent sport of surfing to SoCal, the Lee brothers helped hook Californians on a then lesser known Mexican street food dish, the fish taco.

By the mid-90s, the chain had a half dozen locations across the OC, and then expanded beyond the county and the state in the 2000s. Now with 65 locations in the western U.S. as well as Nebraska, Pennsylvania, Texas, and even Japan, the Lees have built a business empire that would impress even Henry Edwards Huntington himself. As the brothers said in a 2000 Merrill Lynch commercial spotlighting their small business success, quote, Where else in the world can a Chinese guy sell Mexican food? If this isn't the American dream, I don't know what is.

This week on Doe Boys, Wahoos. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, alongside my co-host, tidy, whitey, waistband, bulger, the Spoonman, Mike Mitchell. That's this. This one sounds like a compliment. Well, let me let me elaborate. Oh, waistband, waistband, bulger, this case, waistband, but like it sounds almost like

a second thought. I'm trying to make it into a compliment. It's too complicated. There's a reason I picked it. Yeah, go ahead. Well, I mean, if it means you're giving somebody a boner, right? Yeah. So whose waistband is bulged?

Well to clarify, this was sent in by Luke Michaels, who I believe you might know, Mitch. Yeah, that's why it is a compliment. My buddy Luke, Lukey, but Luke, Luke included a note. Luke. Yeah, well, he had a lot of different names. You got a lot of different names. I feel like Luke is like the first pitch in the room and it was like, all right, we want to get lunch.

Cotton sometimes. Cotton? Based on the grandpa from King of the Hill. He's got kind of like a like a squat old man sort of vibe. Yeah. My buddy Nate used to say, Luke is one of my best friends and I love him. He was one of my great friend from college. Luke sent along this note, was going to go with tidy whitey bulger, but didn't want

any confusion as to what could possibly bulge his underwear. We all know only his waistline and nothing else could bulge his tidy whities. Well, what the fuck, Luke? He's saying you got a small dick and a big gut. He used to say that to me. Really? In college. Yeah.

He was like, small dick, big gut. He would, he would just say that literally. And this is one of your closest friends. Yeah. He's great. Well, hey, if you have an insult you like me to use and mention that out the show, you don't have to be a close personal friend roastspoonmanageemail.com. Just send it in.

We're going, we're going to a Patriots Bears game in Chicago. Are you really? Mm-hmm. At the, towards the end of October. I don't be fun. Yeah. It's going to be great. You're not invited.

I wouldn't want to go anyway. Well, why? Because you don't want to meet Luke? I don't want to observe CTE being inflicted. Oh, God. You're just going to eat it in and out burger instead. Oh, look, in and out burger, very problematic, making some donations to the Republican party here in Southern California in the midst of a very competitive election year.

Very shitty. All these corporations are shitty. It's a shitty thing to do. They shouldn't be doing that. Oh, well, it just seems like the tables have turned like a tweedle. How have the tables turned? Yeah. You always say stuff.

You always rub it in my face with the Patriots and everything else. Yeah. The Patriots are bad. No. In and out burger is worse. In and out burger is not worse than the Patriots. It's much worse. You know, who's, you know, who's demonstrably worse than, than in and out burger?

Who? Wendy's. Hmm. Donated far more to Republican causes than, than in and out burger did. Yeah. $170,000 in 2017-2018. Yeah. McDonald's Corp.

Coca-Cola Corp. These are some of the biggest donors to Republicans. There's the, they just want like lower, lower corporate tax routes. That's all they care about. Look, all these corporations are shitty. There's no ethical consumption under capitalism. That's just this. What?

Guys, open your fucking eyes. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Open your eyes and ears. I'm blowing minds of this podcast. They're like family. No. These corporations are bad news, buddy. What?

Yeah. No. Bad news, buddy. Wow. You got Nike on your shirt. Yeah. You got, you got Adidas on your headband. Well, they don't always match.

So yeah. You got Swatch on your watch. You got Converse on your shirt. Oh, no. Converse on your shoes? Jesus Christ. These places are not your friends. I just never even thought of it this way.

It's wild. Look, that's what Doe Boys brings to the table. Anyway, I want to say, howdy-how to Mitchy, ooh, to Spoon Nation, Jesus. Here's a little drop. Uh-oh. Is it going to be loud? We'll see. Oh man, I really am going to be like hoping that these are made into drops.

All it's going to be is like, is like, banana puss, banana puss. And then like from, uh, from three episodes ago, just saying like, oh, come, he is going to be like some raunchy fucking. Come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, come, banana puss, come. Why did my delivery isolated make me sound like a country bear? Because you do sound like a country bear, you dumb prick. Is that really what I sound like?

That's how I picture you when I listen. Wow. Okay. That was from shampooedler. He sent in a few. He didn't even say anything. You just sent that in. Thank you, shampooedler.

What if the drop address again? What? I already did it. Say it. Say it. There's too many drops. There's too many drops in the email box. There's too many drops in the email box.

Look, that's going to be a drop. I want to Colorado Springs this last weekend with my mom and sister. You know what? Let's introduce our guests and we can get into this anecdote. She's a comedian and host of the podcast. Cool playlist. Eliza Skinner is here. Yay.

It's me. I've been here. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for coming. I wasn't trying to tell the story without. I wasn't trying to exclude our guest. I didn't think you were, but I just figured let's explicitly include her.

No, who's polite and who's not? It's good to know right up top. I'm here for the will. They won't they for this this moon lighting, like a large and between the two of you guys. Well, they won't they kill themselves or kill each other. I went to Colorado Springs. Yes, it was nice.

It was a nice time. I just want I went up into a cabin with my mom. I went up to Pike's Peak, 14,000 feet, Nick. Wow, it was hard to breathe up there. Here's some joke from you. Go ahead. It's hardly the brief of at sea level or something stupid. Wow.

So you've started roasting yourself. I just didn't even have to do it anymore. He's been conditioned. You know what? Here is a sad thing. Yeah, I'm too heavy to ride a damn horse. I can't. I can't.

No, I can't ride a horse. I can't ride a single horse that could have you on its saddle. That sounds like like the story of some sort of like folk hero. Right, it wasn't a single horse that could take him too much man for a horse. 250 pounds to cut off. That's the weight limit for even like for like a thoroughbred. I don't know about like a giant horse for God's sake. What about one of those Budweiser horses?

I feel like you can ride one. I think I can ride a Clydesdale for God's sakes. Are you allowed to ride Clydesdales? I don't know anything about horses. Yeah, me neither. God, I just want to tell you that why was I even fucking born? Well, not to ride horses. God, take that off the list, but everything else when my dad finished.

Was there just one big fat sperm fucking swimming by itself? That's disgusting. He shot a single. Like how big fucking big like you could see it like like novelty. Like soap size, like like big, big like a 10 if you put in a if you get this tadpoles fucking swimming all alone took me probably a month to get there. He stopped for some breaks and to mumble kill me right. It's probably when they were.

Yeah, did you guys know that the race thing, the sperm race thing is a fallacy? Is it really? Yeah. Look who's talking was lying all the stuff. This is insane. So the sperm just kind of like they just go in there. You know, you spill a glass of milk. It goes where it goes and they're in there and they're just kind of like

bonking around. They're not like, let me get to that egg. You know, like we're told they're like, yeah, I'm trying to get like there. Here we go. We're in a place and the egg picks one. Oh, interesting. Oh, that's kind of that's creepier than I would than I would. Well, it's not like it puts out like a little like cartoon sent hand and

but it just sort of, I guess, allow, like select the one and allows it. How the hell was I that sperm, Nick? How was I that sperm? You were that special sperm. How the hell did that happen? I mean, I think that egg was just like, you know, whatever. That egg didn't didn't really care. I think it was last call and that egg was like, all right, I don't do.

So you're saying the egg was drunk. Yeah. Drunk. Okay. I had a friend in Boy Scout camp and he told me that he had not noticed the singular use of friend there. I had a few friends at Boy Scout. No, we already know it was one.

He said it was one the first time. Look, this is a kid I knew at Boy Scout camp. Oh, no, it wasn't even a friend. It may not have been my friend, but he was telling this story and he said that he had he had an older brother about my brother's age and he said he'd walk. This was, we were all like, no, everyone was pretty, pretty best and we were like, I think we're Cubs or first year of Boy Scouts or like 11 and he said that is he caught his older brother jacking off and he walked into the the bathroom and his brother

like, like shot his load all over the floor and he could see the sperm swimming around in it. That was a true story. I was like, it was like plausible up to a point and then I was like, whoa, this, you could see the sperm. That's so terrifying. It's like Kronenberg shit. Right, right. That would scare me off of any kind of sexual anything for at least like a month.

If that's actually what you saw, it would be a nightmare. Yeah, it'd be disgusting. You know what? I do. I also, I believe the story as well. Well, we'd, we'd, we've started off a nice and gross, but Eliza, you are. Yeah, let's talk about food now. Yum, yum, yum.

Eat it up. Eat it up. So I know you're from Virginia. I am. What are these? So is Dave Matthews. I thought, I thought he was. Yeah.

He, they used to play down the street from my house, apparently. Oh, really? Cool. Yeah. You know the bar? Tuesday night bar. I think at the flood zone in Richmond. That's cool as hell.

But I don't, it's not something I remember. It's something I have heard since they became famous. That's where he moved after South Africa or even. Oh, okay. So he went back to South Africa and then he moved to Virginia because that's what I, I was, I had heard, I knew he was from South Africa originally. I didn't realize that Virginia, there was a Virginia connection. I believe the band started.

I, okay. I'm not a Dave Matthews band fan. So I don't know, but I believe they started in Charlottesville, Virginia, which is where the University of Virginia is. Oh, wow. Down to Richmond, or at least then started playing. There's a bar there. Then I forget the name.

I usually know it. Bad fan tonight. Nick, I had you listen to a song recently. I did. You sent me a, what was it called? It was in your grave. It was, it was, it was, it was a great person in my mouth. That's the big hit.

Right. I actually, I gave you a big long history of Dave. I did a pretty good job. I felt like you did. Yeah. You gave me just texting you while I think while on the road endangering. Yeah. You got to stop doing that.

We're trying to discourage you from that habit. Shouldn't be texting while driving. Just like a whole PSA program to say to stop doing sending you Dave Matthews fact. Right. Great job. But yeah, I thought I did a good job with that. What was, what's that?

Was it the song lying your grave? Yeah, lying, lying our graves. Yeah, lying. What do you, what are you just interested that you chose that song for me? I'm sorry. I interrupted it. Back to Virginia. Yes.

Yeah. And Virginia seems like a beautiful play. It really does. It is, it is. It's a really nice place. It has like all of the different types of land is like the water part, the middle part and the mountain part. Yes.

Got all the mountains are really nice looking. Yeah, yeah. Blue Ridge Mountains. Oh, that's right. Oh, that's in the song. Take me home country road, isn't it? I believe those are the Rocky Mountains. Oh.

Take me home country road. West Virginia. West Virginia Mountain Mama. You're right. Take me home country road. Do they never say Blue Ridge Mama? Who know? You know what?

Maybe they do. Who know? Who knows? When did Blue Ridge Mountain mention it all? It's definitely mentioned in some songs. Yeah. It is not coming to me right now. I mean, Dolly Parton, she was, she was from that area.

Have you ever been to Dollywood? She's right in one of these. No, but my college town had, was close enough that we would get TV ads for it. Oh, great. It was this amazing ad for Dollywood that. Dollywood, that's what it's called. Yeah, it used to have it, Dolly and this, and her grandmother sitting on a porch together.

And she was like, Grandma don't you love pigeon forth, or Dollywood. And she's like, No, I like pigeon forge people like to come here because it's pigeon forge. And Dolly's like, No, they like to come for Dollywood. And Dolly starts singing Dollywood. Dollywood. And then her quote unquote grandma was like, Pigeon forge. Pidgeon forge.

And I think that pigeon forwards thing all the time. If I'm waiting in line in the grocery store. I'm like, Pigeon forge. I mean, funnier than anything we've ever done on the podcast. That's okay. All right. I'm a bad guest. I get it.

What are you talking about? That was that. No, I'm saying. I'm saying pigeon forges. Okay, all right. We meant that sincerely. Okay. Okay.

I'll do it again. Pigeon forward. I want to I want to Dollywood. I want to. Yeah, I haven't been. I'm so jealous. I was dating Dolly. I was dating Dolly.

Wow. Whoa. I bet you got in free. Yeah, I got in free. Oh, did you get to skip the lines? No, man. I guess she's not that powerful and I saw the most insane. It was a Christmas carol and like Dolly was like projected.

Like it was like it like a like Tupac projected onto the stage. It was the weirdest hologram. Yeah. There was like a holly like a dolly interact with people. Yeah, like she was a part of the show. It was so fucking. It was really so she wasn't physically there at the time of this show. This was just like she wasn't there.

No, of course. No, come on. I don't know how Dolly would work. So she has a residency. What was her role? Was she like narrating or was she like a character? I think yeah. She was kind of narrating him and the guy said Bahumboog.

He like didn't say Bahumbo get annoyed the shit out of me like a British accent. Yeah. Yeah, it was super accurate. Even it was. No, it was terrible. Oh, yeah, it was like I think it was his take on it. Take obsessively do songs for everything. It's a sickness in my head.

It's we're not. We're non singing podcast. Good. Does it does she work? You guys are going to do a musical episode one day though, right? Last episode we kind of sang. Yeah, remember? Did we was that last episode?

I forget. Sing your food reviews. No, it was like a song about jacking off, of course. Oh, that was on that was on a bonus episode. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, but they yeah. So no one will hear it. Yeah, yeah.

Subscribe to the patreon if you want to hear us sing about jacking off and just talk about it. So was this like this Christmas girl did have like Dolly Parton songs worked into it? No, not really. It was just like a straight. It was just like a straight play. But I remember there was like good cinnamon bread or something. Dollywood was kind of it was fine,

but I don't think you went there. I went to fucking Dollywood. This is the most made up story. And it was it was like close to Christmas time. It was cold as hell. Do you see one of those travel logs about Dolly? No, I went there for real. Yeah, let me guess.

You went to the men's room and a guy was jacking off onto the floor. And you saw a bunch of sperm swimming. I did, but that's besides the point. And then Dolly and then Dolly brought she she showed up and I kissed her. Okay, all right. Yeah, and it felt like it felt like her lips tasted like bubblegum. Well, now I do buy it. That sounds that sounds really accurate.

So you're in Virginia. What is the food scene? You're growing up there. Uh huh. I'm growing up. What? Like is it, you know, is it what we think of a southern home cooking? Is it just straight down the middle?

What is the food like there? Like outside of my own home? Yes. Although I do remember the things I was most excited about as a kid were Arby's and little Caesars. Oh, hell yeah. Over the pallet of a child. But did you stay?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The only kids eat shit like that. I only have a problem at this point with with little Caesars. I do still feel like Arby's is the best potato product on the market. What specifically are you talking about the curly fries? All of it. You got a selection. You got the curly fries, regular fries.

You got potato pancake. All day long. It's not like a breakfast bullshit. Right. Those are great. So that's who else has that kind of selection? Right. So it's a good point.

Yeah. Very good point. Like I remember going to ballet classes purely because I had a bargain with my mother that I would get one of those two fast food meals afterwards. So I was like, I hate this. I hate this. I hate this. I hate ballet.

I think that's a common kid thing because I got like, I got Jack in the box after orchestra. And then my wife Natalie, she would get like, I think she got Wiener Schnitzel. I'm married. Okay. Wow. I don't know what I was putting out, but okay.

I'm just saying the person I love the most who I built a life with. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. As she used to go to like Wiener Schnitzel and get like chili fries before like gymnastics. And that was like her thing is I think there's like a common kid pairing of like some activity that you have to do with some sort of shitty food.

That's like a not it. Not another team movie segment to get chili fries before gymnastic. That does. Yeah. It does sound like it's going to rock. It does sound like it would be a disaster. Yes. Or just a lot of extra propulsion.

Right. And kind of flipping. I yeah, I feel like most of my childhood was about trying to manipulate food out of my fast food out of my parents. Right. If I'm like super sleepy in the backseat on this long car trip, maybe they'll get me a Sunday. I'm like cute and sad about it.

Right. Or like wake up at the right time. But as far as like local stuff, yeah, there's a lot of southern food. We had a pretty good selection of like a little bits of representation of other cultures foods. Like I, you know, it was I had had Thai food. I feel like people think in the south it's like just right. But we did have very good southern food and really good southern fast food. One of my favorites was Bojangles.

Those biscuits. We haven't done it. We haven't done it yet. I've never had Bojangles. Great biscuits. Real good biscuits. What does it rank in the in the in its sort of category? Like versus the other like your Popeyes, your KFCs or would you put Bojangles?

I would put it at the top for me. Wow. Wow. But that's because that's that defines it for me. Right. You know. Also, I really like again, it all hinges on the on the sides for me on your on your potato products and your biscuits.

So for me, I really like grocery store potato wedges. Oh yeah. Which are. Oh yeah. Standard there. Not at every grocery store here. I don't find you'll get them. It's not.

I think I think like a Vaans or either Vaans or an Albertsons has them sometimes. But yeah, you know what's funny? I was just thinking this. I mean, this is pathetic to just be thinking about this, but about the other night. I was thinking I like potato wedges too. I like them a lot. But Wendy's changed their fries like God now almost like eight years ago or something. They put more capitalism in them.

I've learned recently. They put they they have like they put little skin on there. There's a little skin. They put skin on there. Do you believe that skin though? I mean, that's another part of it too is put the skin on there. I mean, who knows? We're not saying they leave it on there.

I have no idea how like how the fries are made. But now there's skin that you taste. You're tasting more potato skin right and I hate it. You have to think it's real. It's like it's gonna be more work than just to do it the real way to create little pieces of skin on these sliced fries. There's probably a guy who I don't know. You guys listen to Alex Jones because he has this theory on it.

I'm kidding. Your face is wow. We both nodded when you said you listen to you listen now and just Alex Jones. Sure, sure, sure, but but they get to bring back the old fries at Wendy's. I mean, look, Wendy's is fucked up with the tomato farming and stuff right and and now tomatoes run their farms. There's there's tomato farms where there's human crops. No, there's there's there's a tomato.

There's their tomato farming situation to help me out here is like. They don't source there. They don't source their tomatoes as ethically as other fast food and they're like everyone's all relative because no one's really. No one's being all that ethical in terms of all the, you know, in terms of their sourcing and everyone side not everyone side agreed to this thing except Wendy's is like one of the only holdouts right fucked up. If they disappeared from most fast food, would people notice?

Do you mean Wendy's tomatoes? Yes, those shitty like I feel like most past food places have shitty tomatoes. They're not. They're not you know what's crazy. I feel like if you just didn't mention it and they just weren't there anymore, I don't think there would be complaints. That spicy chicken sandwich though needs that tomato so bad component. It's huge in it.

Yeah. Okay. It's huge in it. It's and I mean, I I'm not. I'm not even a guy who loves to me and I feel like the tomato on it is usually decent. It's not terrible, but fast food fast food tomato is usually bad. In general, I think it's it's expendable. Like it's like, you know, what would you give fast food tomatoes on the rotten tomato tomato

meter, Nick? I feel like those are about a talking like the critic rating or or the or the or the or the or the user of viewers. Right. I think I think the user reviews. The users are going there on purpose because they've chosen it and the critic had to eat it. So I think I'd give fast food tomatoes about a slender man, which which is currently twenty two percent.

Wow. Yeah, not great. I'm imagining even lower with the critics. Yeah, critics are at seven percent. Yeah, because they didn't want to have to go see that in the first place. Right. Right. What did I just see?

What movie did I just see? Oh, Happy Time Murders. Yeah, I saw. I'll give it a Happy Time Murders. What's that? Forty nine percent audience score. Not bad. The tomatoes are actually kind of right in the middle.

So you've got so beyond your beyond your upbringing, beyond the food there. I understand you were a radio DJ in college. You've got some broadcasting experience. Yes. I was a hardcore director of my college radio station. Wow. What does that mean exactly? Well, actually, I guess it was the hard rock because it hard rock.

OK, it was it was metal and hardcore. Wow. That meant that I would talk to those labels and make sure that we were getting releases from them and also getting tickets to go to shows. That's fucking badass. Yeah, it was pretty cool. I got to interview this band like nobody knows called Into Another, but they were on tour with White Zombie and the Ramones.

Whoa, yeah, white zombie dig through the ditch. Oh, is that Rob's hobby? Wait, so White Zombie is Rob's on. Yeah, same thing. Dig through the ditches and burn. Dragula. Right? That's the song.

I remember Dragula. I just want to let everyone know I remember Dragula. What is Dragula? I think it's a car. It's a vampire car vampire car. Really? So it sleeps during the day and then it drives at night. Yeah, I guess.

So the earth of its homeland. Wait, so if they have like one of those car covers, is that how it doesn't get burnt by the sunlight? Yeah, a car cover from its home country. Did you guys watch The Strain, by the way? I feel like everybody slept on The Strain. I watched it. I watched some of The Strain and then as it went on longer, I stopped.

That's all the right moves. Yeah, you got to watch some of it and then you got to stop. Is it like it's bad or? I had, well, what do you think that it's about? Do you remember it at all? I mean, I know there's like a crazy eye poster. I remember the eye poster. It's a vampire show.

It's a vampire show. I had no idea. Wow. Yep. Vamps classic Dracula show. Yeah, but they treat the vampirism like a virus. Oh, interesting. But it's a virus of little worms that live inside of you. So they're really doing everything all at once.

That makes it less cool. You think of like a like you think of Dracula's and they've all got like fucking little worms in them. That makes it just seems gross. Yeah, I'm not afraid of fucking worms. You don't want the worm, no fucking worm brain Dracula. Oh, scary. I'll bring a fucking fish and defeat you.

Right. Yeah. I remember the first time I watched it, I was just like shouting in my apartment like no, I told me it's vampires. No, do everyone know this? It was shocking to me. That's like a midi-chlorians decision.

Yeah. It's like you're taking say. Hold on. Midi-chlorians is good. Oh, what is this weird thing you guys cling to? Are you being contrarian? Yeah. Midi-chlorians is good.

Oh, it's like this weird identity thing where you like the bad thing. I was wondering what you think Dracula ate for food. It seemed like you had a thought about it. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Oh, I was going to say, if Dracula gets in a jam, it can turn into a helicopter.

Oh, my God. It's a transformer? Yeah. You know what? That, I think, is we've really lost sight of that in terms of our vampire entertainment. Yeah. And I'm sad about that because that's real charming.

Turning into a bat? It's all right. Yeah. None of the current day vampires exhibit that. Right. I think, you know, part of the reason is, is when it happened to Leslie Nielsen, like, didn't another bat come and fuck him or something?

Right. Oh, so they can do it, but they just don't want it to happen because they saw a naked gun. They, they, they, it was, it was a Dracula dead and bumping it. Yeah. And they saw him, they saw him transform into a bat. He got fucked by another bat and they said, this isn't, we don't want this anymore.

So they like spread it around. They're like, put it on the chat room. Don't let people do this. It's not cool. It's sexual assault, honestly. Right. It's very true. Yes.

It's true. And one guy just kept transforming. He was like, keeps happening to me. Oh, weird, weird. Yeah. I know you're, you guys are right. It's not cool. Let's do it though.

That's an old great SNL sketch. Is it really? Yeah. We're like a run fielder. It's John Travolta is like, like is Dracula or something. Check it out. I remember, I don't remember that. You SNL heads out there.

Check it out. I remember the sketch. I don't remember that beat of it. Yeah, like he turns into a bat and then another bat comes and has sex with them. Oh, okay. I must have subconsciously absorbed that. This is like a big thing for comedy writers.

I just realized that there's been multiple jokes of a guy turning into a bat and then another bat fucking him. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. There's some interesting psychological stuff. You know what they should do?

Some good, clean, fun, have a Dracula turn into a baseball bat. Oh, wow. That's everyone can enjoy that. Have you ever thought about writing coloring books? I'm trying to get into Mises. I want to draw me. Yeah. Yeah.

You could put in some of those like an activity book. Right. Right now, Nick. You can't go to the schools to sell those by the way. Okay. All right. You have to stand outside by 500 feet away. So remember you remember book?

Did you used to do like the Scholastic Book Fair? Yes, where they get the thing where you get the like little newsprint. Oh, yeah. Which ones you're going to order and then things show up. It was it was great. It was just, I mean, I got like toy like toy-ish level stuff. I think multiple like birthdays for my dad, me and my brother

bought his birthday gifts from the Scholastic Book Fair. So he so he bought his shitty gift from Scholastic Book Fair. Yeah. We got we got my like whatever money my parents gave us. And it was like a children's book. Yeah. We got him some shitty like some shitty like crossword collection or something or like a fucking some color pencils

for my fucking poor dad who hated just like fuck. God, the gifts from children. Yeah. He already knew at that point. Yeah. This was a waste. But I got to write this out legally. So wait, so you're so I want to hear more about this hardcore

DJ phase. So what is the like like what was the you know, you're going to see these you got opportunities to see these shows. What was the what was it like kind of directing this? What was it like? Like were you were you creating a playlist and everything? Yeah. Well, no, I mean, there wasn't that many hardcore shows on the

OK, on the this champ. Oh, got it. So it was like mine and like one other guys. OK, got it. So it's basically like what we wanted and what we wanted to get free. Also, it's probably very bad at it. Probably not very committed.

Right. So it was just like, oh, yeah, I got some free CDs. Right. I got you. Done. You were training at like Columbia House. Pretty much. Yes.

But were you so like between songs are you are you like taking calls? Are you doing banter? Are you doing you're doing reads? My actual show, though, was a freeform show. OK. Which meant that I got to play anything that I wanted. But in order to do that, in exchange for that, I had to

take a terrible time slot. So I was like, I started off at 3 a.m. to 6 a.m. And then I moved up to midnight to 3 a.m. Wow. And I would play I would play a mix of hardcore novelty songs, show tunes and hip hop. So basically just like like a like a trail mix of old buttons and skittles like it was not for anyone but me.

No one would be like, oh, yeah, yeah, all of my favorite things. Right. It was it was yeah. So you're going from like you're going from like slipknot straight into like Alan Sherman. Well, I would have been specifically going from like snap case or sick of it all into like Monty Python.

Wow. That's great. That is eclectic. Yeah. Yeah. Inaccessibly eclectic. We I mean, it's great to have that experience. We barely know how to talk into mics when we started the

podcast. Well, I didn't I didn't know how to talk into a mic. As I said, I used to have my headphone turned so far down that I would talk like this into the mic and I would get and so I remember doing that or turned so far up because if I talked to normal voice, it would sound too loud to me. So I was like this. And one time I remember covering a guy's shift during the

day and suddenly I started getting all these calls from the local prison, which were they could only make collect calls. So the collect calls would be like, hello, you have a collect call from hey, my name is Ray Ray and I'm going to be out in three months. Can you play slip not and what is your number wow, like whatever they would just do little messages really fast in

the where they're supposed to say their name. That's insane. Yeah, and I was like, oh God, and one of the guys who were like it's because you have that voice. Oh shit, I got to learn how to talk for real on this microphone. Who is the biggest prison caller? Did you ever get I only did that Kizinski or yes, a bunch

of times. Yeah, all the Ted's Kizinski, Bundy, yeah, don't name your kid Ted. Yeah, but if it's a bear, you should know that he gets mixed up with all the other ones. Oh yeah, that's right. No, no, no, I mean, I was thinking Seth McFarlane's Ted.

Oh, okay. Did you didn't you tell me a story about Seth McFarlane? Oh, I probably yeah, we can't say yeah, right. Yeah, Ted loves Ted loves to jack off. That's right. Doesn't he like fine fine. That's what we'll say instead Ted loves to jack off. I don't buy it.

His arms wouldn't reach. Yeah, that's true. Logistics of it or it is not believable. Yeah, you know what? Some sort of tragedy. That was a huge moment in Boston when that movie came out. Ted, the movie Ted was huge for us. What was bigger Ted or the Red Sox breaking the curse of

the Bambino and winning the World Series? Ted by a land shot. You're proud people. They mentioned Quincy in the first Ted movie. I like how you dropped the irony like you're just like you're like you just like no, but they seriously they mentioned Quincy. They know they it's not in a cool like the like there's a girl

who's kind of like like kind of like a like seems kind of like a trashy, I guess you could say oh and she's and she's from Quincy. Did you offer that? No, I didn't go out for the lady and Ted. I didn't go out for Ted at all. No, I didn't go out for Ted to lifelike. You didn't have people who could like get you like that appointment.

I didn't have anybody. I didn't get you in the room. So so you get it. So beyond so I know you do your radio DJ. I also know you have a big musical theater background. Here's my question because I'm not a train singer. Me neither. I know it's true, Mitch.

I know people that people think I was saying before this started how I was funny watching you sing because you look angry. You're kind of you're yelling at your you're you're just yelling it out. I'm trying to power through it. That's all I can all I can do is get it is use like singing. Does that make you happy? I kind of I kind of like singing, but it also stresses me out.

But so like here's what I want to know. OK, you got to lubricate the pipes. I know when you're when you're doing a when you're doing a song and dance number. Yes, a lot of jazz. That's not what I meant. Oh, OK. You good because if it because if you see him wriggling, you don't want that.

That's the wrong. Yes. Yeah, what is the like like because as someone who who does sing like what is the what is the beverage of choice? You just do straight water. I heard I've heard hot beverages are the key. What are you going? You're just looking for like like your every day daily thing.

Yeah, or are you dealing with any kind of stress already happening in there? I'm wondering like you got it. It's opening night and like like like what what sort of show could I just say a quick time out and say you are a fucking loser. OK, me no dare. No, I am a guest here. No, Nick looked right at me and pointed. No, Nick.

He almost touched my face. That was so sorry. This is fun. I should like I felt like, you know, Mitch was going to be on my side. I am on your side. Nick is the loser. I felt like I was going to be like like, you know, trying to trying to defend Mitch. Let's just say it's opening night.

You fucking dork. I'm trying to paint a picture. First of all, I'm not a really a train singer either. I just did a lot of shows and so I got taught to sing as a child, which it means that it's just like make it as loud as possible. I have heard you sing though. You have a lovely singing voice. Thank you, but I'm trying to correct my habits now because I don't want to

sound like a kid singing Annie for the rest of my life. Just really the only thing I know. But yeah, mostly just like drinking water all the time. Got it. Um, do you drink a lot of water? Don't don't drink a lot of caffeine. Don't smoke. Don't do things that'll dry out the things and keep yourself.

Also, what I've been learning reading is it's a lot about relaxing yourself because a lot of people hold tension in their necks. Yeah. And so like learning to relax and let go of that. I definitely like what right when I get anxiety, I feel like it's like my neck starts to constrict. And there are times I feel like, oh, I can't breathe. Like I can't catch my breath.

Yeah. Sometimes I get that feeling of like having a lump in my throat, like I'm going to cry. Oh, wow. Just from anxiety. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, time to slow down and breathe a little bit on purpose.

Instead of just like, I love my life. I live my life like I am being chased. Have you, I've had, I've had to use a throat coat before. Throat coat is the jam. That's great. You know, I did it though, and then I had kind of like a slurmy, sluggy voice. Oh, that means you're cursed. That's the thing.

It's great for everybody except someone who has wronged a witch. Probably wronged a witch at some point in my life. I feel like probably not, but not on purpose. Yeah, not on purpose. Like a mistaken witch wronging. It seems real up your alley. That's it. Do you ever see drag me to hell?

I felt like it was too much that they sent her to hell. I agree. Also, I don't like the CGI. I love horror and I really like practical effects. Oh, all right. That just got a little. What's your favorite horror movie? Mine is a horror.

I raise a lot. Whoa. We were the Senobites. We were talking. We were talking Senobites on here just recently. Yeah, the thing is maybe one of my favorite. Yeah, I really love Cronenburg. So, but that's almost not even hard.

I mean, it is obviously, but it's like so weird. Yeah, but I mean, I also, I mean, I guess the thing is definitely horror. But if the thing is horror, I feel like the fly. That's horror too. Yeah, right flies, flies fucking gross. Yeah, I mean, I like it. Of course. That's the horror of body horror.

Yeah, it's something's happening to your body that you can't control. And I am shocked that it's not like something that more women don't just totally love. I am shocked that like ladies night isn't let's watch some body horror because like our bodies go crazy and in ways that disgust people and it happens to everybody. I've been living kind of a body horror since I was five years old. Right. I feel like it's something we should all be able to very innately relate to

right. Yes, the brood that feels right to me. And yeah, the brood's got to be horror too, right. The brood is horror. Yes, I vote. Yes. What's your favorite name? Nice for that to come in a site, a silent film.

That's you. You don't like music. I figure that you like music. That's not a fair character. I've said I don't listen to music always when I'm driving. I tell them where we're going to go in a in a couple of weeks or so. We are just like to keep it secret. Say whatever you want.

Are you going to a petting zoo? We're going to a petting zoo. People are going to we're going to see how many people pet Mitch. He's going to try to collect treats. Hopefully I don't pet any animals to death. I mean, is the do you guys have fan art of you guys as the mice and men get? Yeah, anyway, we will now set that someone will send in. Don't send any pictures of me petting while you're with the death.

Pick some random animal. Or show me petting them, but they live. Anyways, what was I going to say? Oh, flying to the sky like angels. I'm going to take you to Dave Matthews band concert. I'm very excited. You talking dmb to me part two. He's I told me that he's a good man.

You like. Yeah, you like Dave Matthews as a man. You like him as a person. You guys are like friends. Yeah. Whoa, cool. He's cool. Nice.

Yeah. This sounds like this is another repeat of this dollywood anecdote. No, not at all. When you kiss him, he's like bubblegum. Okay. All right. Yeah, that's a good that's an exciting thing. Nick, you're going to have to stay up past 10 30.

Unfortunately, it's going to be a nightmare, but I'm going to have. I'm going to do I'm going to have the time. I'm going to have it. I'm going to go. We're going to have the time of your life. I'm going to have the time. Why did you almost say I'm going to have the time of my life? You corrected too much.

Well, I was like, I was trying to find I was trying to land inside. I was like, that's too far and but I'm going to try to have a good time. But I was like, that might also be too far. So I don't want I just don't want to commit to any. It's going to be too late. That's the only thing I know it's going to be too late for me. I'm going to want to go to bed. You're going to be a you're going to be a fun time there.

Nick, what's your what's your favorite horror movie? You didn't answer a favorite horror movie. I can guess these days, the nightly news. Whoa. Have you thought about writing coloring books? Trying to get into word searches. Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just jumbles. I think I could do do great at jumbles. You know, a lot of letters. I feel like you'd be great at it. No, most of them. I know. I think The Silence of the Lambs was probably my I didn't know. That's like a, you know, it's as much a thriller as it is a horror film,

but it's great. I also I didn't. I thought The Silence of the Lambs was kind of like your inspiration. Come on. It's disgusting. I'm some sort of a Buffalo Bill-esque monster. Yes, building a skin suit out of that's right. I was happy that you didn't that you knew that I was talking about Buffalo

Bill and not I thought Clarice. Clarice is great. What a great character Clarice. Yeah, she's great. Dr. Lactor. Is that the only horror that's won the Academy Award? Right? It won it, right?

I wouldn't have even called it a horror movie. It's kind of borderline, but it is. I also, you know, I love slashers. I was a big slasher guy for a while. I like, you know, I like the Friday. Yeah, I like the Friday the 13th. I like Scream. I like the Freddy movies.

I like the Halloweens. I liked all of those. But yeah, what else am I thinking of? What am I missing in terms of horror movies? Do you like the masked kind of hulking slasher? Or do you like the clever I got a bit for you kind of slasher? I like them both and let me tell you. You like a zinger?

Yeah, I love a zinger. And when, when, when, when they go at each other in it, like a team up movie, that's the best. So you're specifically talking about bickering between them. Like, I feel like you guys could make a great slasher team with the little bickering and one of them who's like, let's get the job done. Right.

I'm definitely the Jason of the of the combo. You're a funny job, but Jesus Christ. You could have just left the subtext there. I didn't do that. I also feel like a mob will burn you to death someday. I feel like you have a lot in common with them. And you're really actually your mother, that sort of thing. I do love I do.

I do have the hangouts with my mom. I feel like if we tried to be like a, you know, like a nightmare horror serial killer duo, it would end up like when the the three Stooges, like cater a fancy Dowager's party. Maybe like put a ladder through a plate glass window. And I put a tire pump in your mouth and make your cheesecake big. Nick.

Oh shit. Now I've. Oh, do you like this? Actually can go to both of you. Okay. All right. Thank you. You like the gooey, the green little goblin type monsters as well.

Ooh, I do. Yeah. I like I like little ghouls and ghosts. I think those are fun goblins. Yeah. I don't like the ones when they come out of the toilet. And thank you. Those are good.

Those are gooies. Yeah. But you said type gooey types. Yeah. Yeah. The type a little like like like little, like little, like tiny monsters come at you. Yeah.

Those are great. Those are fun. A lot of fun. I also like big monsters. Would you count the leprechaun? Leprechaun annoys the shit out of me. Well, I think you don't like those ingers. I mean, I I I do like leprechaun because I like all horror movies,

but he just did. He's just he's you know what's my issue with him much. He's too evil. Pull it back and like like have some motivation besides just pure evil. Yeah, I agree. He's got he's got gets so upset about the gold. He's like a no he gets like a little too annoying. Right.

But we're it's it's it's warwick, isn't it? Isn't that warwick? Yeah. Warwick Day. Warwick Day was like Davis. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the leprechauns all right.

I think as far as diminutive killers with wisecracks go, I'm more of a Chucky man. Child's play is the franchise is known. Mm hmm. Yeah. I used to be so afraid of child's play. You know, on pay-per-view, they like they chill like the first 10. This is I feel like no one knows this anymore.

But it's the same thing. They do like it in hotels. Yeah. They show the first like 10 or 15 minutes on it. These are the movies you goodbye and and child's play scared me for life. Right. I one time I shouldn't say this. What?

Tell you all you got to now people. There was one night I was sleeping in my bed and I thought I don't want to hear sexual things. I thought that my Mickey Mouse doll grabbed my arm. Did it? You piece of shit. You've told the wrong person. What did you do? Did you keep it?

Did you get rid of it? I put it up in the top of your closet. I put it up in the I put it up in the attic. The attic and that's where they grow. I put it up and I put it up and there was a dress a draw up in the attic and I put it in one of the drawers and then I came back a year later and I opened the drawer and I was fucking gone. Wow. I start freaking out.

I was scared. Mark said I know that there was no calm. There were no claw marks, but in my mind it had got out somehow. Yeah. I believed it got out. Well, I was very scared for a very long time. And that is very scary. How old were you?

26. Yeah. It was my fucking attic at Palmerston. You know how I have an attic in my apartment? Wait. So the like what you thought? How old were you really? You were like I was probably like seven.

So you thought that you thought that the Mickey Mouse doll like it was like on a shot. Is it near the bed? It was near the bed. Yeah. Right next to the bed. You thought it reached out and grabbed your arm. Yeah. And you thought that he would have not like that.

This would be like a playful like who Mickey like he's going to have like that. He'd have murderous intent to say your attitude. You're the tone of your voice sounds like you're shocked that you thought that Mickey Mouse would have out of all people chosen you. You thought Mickey Mouse touched your arm. Oh, Mitch. Come on. Good luck.

Freshman. Hey, this is Quincy, right? You went to Christmas. Ted. Do you guys believe in ghosts? You wanted to meet Ted? Yeah, I do believe in ghosts. Nick doesn't.

I don't believe in ghosts, but I like being I like the idea of being scared of ghosts. That's what we have to say when we're around people who believe in ghosts. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Wait, are you a ghost there? Are you a ghost believer? I believe in ghosts.

You said that question like it sounded like maybe you did believe in ghosts. Why? Because you're like do you believe in ghosts? I was like all right. I have another believer here with me. I said this to Nick. My thought on we don't know. Yours is the popular opinion.

Yours is the opinion that's good at parties and that is friendly and people like we are the pariahs. Right. You know what we should do? You know what we should do this October? We should have a little ghost story because I got I got two ghost stories. Oh, shit. We should have a ghost story app. Oh, that's fun.

Yeah. Would you eat ghost food? Ectocooler. Is that still a thing? It came back at one point. I don't know. Yeah, I think there's novelty food. You can track down Ectocooler.

Well, it has to be everywhere, right? Because all of those theme parks do their weird little things and I'm sure they've got like ghosty foods. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Blueberry cereal. Hey. That's one.

That's ghosty. Couch ocula. That's not. I do believe in vampires. I don't believe in them, but I love them. I love vampires. Yeah. Vamps are great.

Yeah. Vamps are great. Not enough bats, but we were we remember we had the our ride with a guy from Transylvania. When we were. Oh, that's right. We got a very strong lift ride from a fucking Transylvanian. And I was like, why do you have your sunglasses on? It's nighttime.

Oh, no, it wasn't this guy was like I gave up on that. Oh, no. He was strange. He was very strange and he was like he was cool. Oh, I like him and we've told this. I think we've told the story at some point in the podcast before, but he was like something of a Dracula defender. Yeah.

He was like pro Dracula like it was like it was like kind of like we're talking to us like like like Transylvania and Mitch immediately like goes to drag starts bringing up Dracula. Understandably. Right. And and and I'm imagining in the the driver's mind. It's like the historical figure. Yes. And you it's like what noise brought to and you're seeing literally Count Chocular.

Well, do you know what is the funny thing because I was like are there like bats there and he was like yes, there's lots of like remember he said there were lots of bats. And then we were like Dracula. He's like Dracula wasn't actually and he sounded like Transylvania and Dracula. Yeah, he's like he's like Dracula. He was like actually not as bad as people say he was like a good leader. He like he was like he was like he kept the Hessians out or something like that or whatever the historical conflict was.

Yeah. And then it was like you know who else wasn't too bad Frankenstein. Okay, but they monster bad. He was trying new things. We'll take a break. We'll be back with more dough boys. Welcome back to dough boys. We're here with Eliza Skinner.

Hi. This week's chain Wahoos. I was it sounds like a place named by Mario or a UVA grad taking her back to Dave Matthews. Oh hell yeah. They're Wahoos. Wait, does he say does Dave Matthews have a Wahoo song? He says no that well that's their that's like their nickname for themselves. The Wahoos.

Yeah, it's not it's not official. Oh, interesting. Yeah, the Cavaliers is the official thing. Oh, fascinating. Dave Matthews says a little baby or a restaurant name. You got your bow. You got a great song. Great song.

The Cleveland Indians mascot also chief Wahoo very controversial Cleveland Indians. Right. Maybe that is all I am thinking of. Yeah. Could have been just that. Yeah, who knows. But it was that never mind. I was trying to make a connection.

This is actually named for the fish. That's the etymology of this chain's name. I was so like when you when you brought this up as an option, I was surprised. But also like I like we were like Wahoos because it's like a place I know about and I've been to a bunch and I know there are a number of them. I was actually surprised by how many there are there ended up being. But then it was like it was like, yeah, of course, this is a place we should cover. There's like 65 of them that it's across the country.

It's like a somewhat known chain. But what is your connection to Wahoos? Why was this a place you wanted to discuss? It was one of the first places that I the first time I came out to California. Right. Doing like improv tour. It was one of the places that I was with a friend who had grown up here, Brian Finkelstein.

Oh, yeah. No, Finkelstein. Yeah. And he was my improv teacher. Yeah. Great guy. And he was like, we have to go here. And I was like, what is it?

He was like, you don't know Wahoo. And I was like, no, I don't think anybody does. And he was like, no, it's this whole thing. And we went and I was like, this is great. This is the first time I think I had ever had a fish taco. Right. And yeah, it was great. And so then every time I would come out to California, I'd be like, gotta visit Wahoo.

Wow. I have a similar, when I first got out here, 2005, Wahoos was, I lived in just a random house with random people, like I found on Craigslist. And this guy, Justin Kurtrinchik, he was very laid back, kind of like a laid back stone. Not, I want to say stoner dude, but I don't know if he was actually smoking weed, but kind of like a laid back Califant, Cali guy.

And he took, and he sounds like my kind of dude. God, no, you probably wouldn't like you. Um, he, uh. Sick burn. That's nice. No, I'm serious. He wouldn't like you. Yeah, I know.

Make it worse. You're, it was good before. He, he took me to Wahoos. And, uh, that was, it was probably my first experience with, with fish tacos as well. And it was, it seemed very. Cool skater stuff on the wall. Cool skater stuff in the wall.

Surfer stuff. I'm going to, we should talk about it a little more before I, before, because a lot of what I'm thinking about right now plays into what I think about the restaurant too. So, well, let's, let's keep talking about it. Well, like you, well, you mentioned the, the, the, the kitschy sort of surfer dude interior. It's very so Cal came from OC.

Um, and, uh, it's, you know, I've, this is a place I've been to a number of times, but I had been a while since I had been. Yeah, me too. Cause I just like, I, I just like kind of fell out of my, my, uh, routine of just like places I go to terrible places. Yeah. No, look, there's no like convenient location. There's a couple near, I live on the West side.

There's this. So there's a couple near where we live. That's what I mean. Terrible. Well, hold on. Uh, so there's some intra LA squabble. I'm kidding. If you make fun of the West side or make fun of trains in general,

Wiger's gonna get pissed off. Any kind of trains or just the ones that choo choo. Look, I like, I like the coloring books. It's what I'm trying to get into. I know you're like, you know what, you're like, you're, you're like a Mr. Rogers that kids don't like. Oh, that was a good bird. That is very accurate.

So no, I like that. I like the coastal, I could be, I like, I, you know, I like being near the beach. I like those, that ocean breeze. So I like that part of it. And yeah, you should love Wahoo. Yeah. So I, I, I mean, it, it, it appeals to me for that reason. You like being near it, but you're not really like a beach.

No, I'm not a beach goer. I'm not going to go in the ocean. You're more of like a beach, like, like, like metal detector guy. I'm full. You go out there real early before anybody else is there. Right. Do some sort of business. Plannel shirt.

Natalie, I found an old metal plate. Yeah, that seems, that seems right. Yeah. I brought a fishing pole for some reason. So people don't ask questions. Right. No, I like being near the beach. I like, you know, I like looking at the ocean, but no, I'm not.

I do like to swim, but I'll swim in a pool. I'm not going to swim in the open ocean. And this one out here is too cold. It is all year round. No, thanks. A little sewagey. Atlantic Ocean is better than the Pacific Ocean. Hell yeah.

Fucking back off. Get into the Atlantic Ocean, your piece of shit. I'll never go in that garbage ocean. That's insane. It's great. I'm going to put you on the end of a hook and put you in the ocean. I'm going to go fishing with you is what I'm saying. Tell you what you don't want is a bay.

Cause bays have like, they got like jellyfish in them. They got like stinging nettles, which I think are also just jellyfish. Right. Yeah, it's bad. We always learned the stingray shuffle out here, which is where you're not supposed to walk into the ocean. You're supposed to like sort of like shuffle your feet in. That sounds like a joke teachers play on kids.

Well, the idea is it may be a joke, but the idea is that the stink, there's stingrays that are just like they'll lurk on the floor. And if you step on one, they'll sting you. But if you, if you shuffle the sand near them, they'll go away. Yeah, I don't know, it's true or not. I don't know, but hey, I've never been stung by a stingray. It's more than a lot of people can say. I've never been stung by a fucking stingray.

Yeah, but you did, you did say it really pointed. So it's like a passive aggressive thing about me. I mean, not everyone has that on their resume. Lakes are where it's at. You know, there's no lakes. Yeah. Lakes are, what do you mean? Lake, what?

Lakes freak me out because I feel like the fish are all inbred. Yeah, but that's good. And they probably gossip too much. Like it's like get hobbies, get out, brought in your scope, but they're like, you know, they don't in lakes. That lakes are lakes are as safe as hell, except for Lake Blacid. The giant, the Gator, the giant Gator movie. What about Crystal Lake?

Lakes are a fucking death trap. Yeah, there's a lot of bad lakes. Murders and monsters lurk there. Yeah, there you go. I think I would probably hang. If Jason was around, when you wouldn't you choose the water? I feel like the water seems like a good place to go. I would get a scuba tank.

Jason will come after you in the water. If I got a scuba tank and I'm underwater, he doesn't need oxygen. He's dead. I'm going to go right to where his chain was with my scuba tank and sit there and wait for you in less one minute against Jason. What are you talking about? I was plenty. I would last several minutes.

You would. No, you would be so scared. You try to make friends with him right away. You try to get on his good side and that's not going to work. I would be the fat virgin that dies. Why is it? Why is the guy the? Why does the fat virgin guy like die like embarrassingly when the virgin lady lives

and then the fat virgin guy is like, will you go on a date with me? And then like immediately gets skewered. It's our fucked up value system. Yeah, but so so the so the Wahoo's going this time. How long how long had it been since your most recent Wahoo's visit? Well, actually the place that I moved into when I first moved to LA, my landlord's office was right near a Wahoo on the west side. So I forgot to mail in my check and had to drive over there and take it to them.

I'd be like, well, at least I get to go to Wahoo, but I moved away from that place four years, five years ago. Got it. Probably been five years. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I probably haven't been to a Wahoo's name. Maybe even in longer, maybe eight, eight years or so.

I think I'd been within the past year or two years just to get probably like a salad or a bowl because they do have some healthy options there. Great healthy options. But so but returning this time, I decided to kind of go whole hog and try some of the classics. Me and Natalie went. We got just just the starters. Where's Natalie?

Natalie's my wife. Okay, I get it. I get it. Where do we been? Geez. Just saying. I don't know what you're reading from me because I'm not. I'm just just saying this ring around my fingers.

Yeah, I get it. Symbolizes an eternal bond. It's very close to my face. Yeah. Are those minion engravings on that ring? They do look like it. But I don't know which is which. There's the one eye guy is Stewart.

The two eyed squat guy is Bob. And then the taller guy who's kind of the brainiac slash leader. That's Kevin. Is it true instead of I do you guys said banana? I said banana and then Natalie said I'm not going to stand for it. How can you guys say it without saying it the right way? Banana. Yes.

It's just so satisfying. It's a blast. How can you not be saying I? I hate I the minions. Potato. Oh, fuck you. You were you were gently getting enjoyment out of saying it like a minion. You know what if I if the middle of the night I was lying in my bed

and the turbo Dave I have on my shelf reached over and grabbed my leg. I wouldn't be scared. Oh, that was I'd be like Dave. Don't these are all my life. This is great. If in the middle of the night I was lying in my bed and the turbo Dave reached out and he grabbed my leg. I'd be like damn Dave what you doing that for and he'd be like come on.

Let's get out and dance on the floor and I mean you did all of that naturally. I think you I know what you would do. All right. Don't suggest a fucking some sort of sexual scenario involving a mid. It's not a sexual life. You wanted to reach a little lower. Come on. You'd get jerked off by the menu.

You knew what I was thinking. Driving at minions are children, Mitch. Jesus. Oh shit. This is Nick. Okay. Look. No, Mitch.

They would not like him. We already established that. Oh, that's it. Jesus Christ. So Natalie and I went. I get chips and salsa and which is you know it's it's they give you a big thing of salsa. The thing is they have a salsa bar.

I feel like it's like kind of an expensive price point for basically just a side of chips because the salsa is free. Yeah. And then we got the Cajun fries. Cajun fries are nice. You know, they have a they have a good good seasoning on them. I will say about this particular visit, their fryer was down. So it took they were very, very nice about it, but it took extra time for them to

switch out the fry oil, get it started back up again. It took like an extra 15 minutes to get our order. Everything came out great and hot. And I think maybe because it was fresh oil, it was like the, you know, the fried items were the standouts here, but it did take a little extra time. So just just in the interest of transparency that took place. Cajun fries, good fries, good seasoning on them. You know, kind of a kind of an Arby's curly fry, if you will.

A little bit, a little bit spicier than that. A little bit more Cajun, but similar to seasoning. Must have been good if you liked them. Yeah. Come on. And get on this. I hate fries thing again. I love fries. I had fries on my birthday as a treat for me.

Nice. Is that the last time you had them? Yes, but my birthday was very recent. Okay. And it comes with a spicy ketchup and an aioli. Not too much spice in the ketchup, but the aioli was nice. They make it in-house. I also got the crispy fish taco, which is Alaskan flounder

with a lightly seasoned breading on a corn tortilla with melted cheese, citrus slaw, and cilantro sauce. It's a good fish taco. Their chief competitor, I feel like in the fish taco space, is Rubio's. And I think I prefer the Rubio's fish taco better. There's similar concepts. Rubio's is a little bit more low-key.

They do up the theme a little bit more at Wahoo's. It's a little bit more of this sort of surfer-bro-y sort of vibe. But I think the execution of the Rubio's is just a little bit more solid. But this is a very good fish taco, and it's really well done. Also, I got the outer reef burrito. This is any protein with cheese, lettuce, rice, beans, green sauce. The green sauce is very nice, kind of cucumber-y.

Cucumber's not an element in it, but it kind of has that taste to it. And a little bit of, it's nice and smooth, a little bit of spice. I got that with spicy chicken. You get your choice of rice in it. I got white rice and your choice of beans. I got Cajun white beans. A lot of Cajun stuff. Yeah, and then I asked to add guacamole and sour cream.

Look, I understand that the kitchen was perhaps overwhelmed because of the fryer situation. They neglected to put the guacamole and sour cream on my burrito. So it came out really, really dry. And that was a big disappointment to this. It was just like a super dry burrito. Not even a lot of, it was mostly rice and chicken. Like not a lot of beans.

I think there's a dry issue at Wahoo's, by the way. It's a lot of the stuff is dry, and not a lot of cheese in it. So that was kind of a problem. They highlight the sauces, but they're not, they're like, hey, look at these sauces we have. Yes, yeah. And you have to go on your way to Adam. I got to think of them.

Exactly. Also the cabbage, they put cabbage on top of everything. Cabbage is such a dry, like it's just this very dry cabbage on top of everything. It's a citrus slaw. And yeah, it's inconsistent in terms of how much liquid it has. Natalie got the protein bowl. She got it with grilled and Cajun fish.

Did not like the fish. We went on a Monday. Monday, notoriously, not a great day to get fish, but it was particularly bad. The veggies, the citrus slaw and sliced avocado was all nice. Overall, yeah, you know, some good stuff. And I like that they have beer and wine there. But even though I just got a pariette,

but yeah, I mean, I feel like the, the, the... You just like knowing it's there. I like knowing it's there. I like that you have the option at a quick service restaurant. But yeah, I feel like the items are kind of inconsistent, like Mitch was saying, some serious dryness problems. What about you guys? What was your most recent meal experience like?

Go for it. I got three tacos. I don't like a taco meal because I feel like beans and rice are a waste. Right. I would rather have another taco. Yeah, I can see that. And yeah, I liked the fish taco.

The other two were, they were fine. What were the, what were the elements? I got a carnitas taco and a carne asada. Got it. Yeah, they were fine. They're good. There was like a lot of filling in them. So I have to give it up for that.

There was too much lettuce. The lettuce was a little bit nuts on the one that had lettuce. And yeah, I do think though that a salad would have been the better order, a salad or a bowl, because those are in my memory better. They do. I think they have pretty good salads there. And you know, I think they're, their produce is reasonably fresh.

I think they have a variety of different proteins you can choose from. So, you know, I've never been to a Rubio's. So maybe that's the problem here, because I felt like it was much better than a, than a Baja Fresh and much better than like a Del Taco, obviously. Well, hold on. Really? I mean, I'm a Del Taco super fan of the things that I got.

Yes. As far as, as far as like a fish taco, I think it's the list of trains and West Side and Del Taco is right under it. I have certain things that I think Del Taco is unbeatable at. Hell yeah. Crinkly fries. Hell yeah. Amazing fries.

They're good. And I do like those breakfast tacos, but I do like them on corn, which throws some of them for a loop. I like a powdered egg taco. Yeah, I don't like corn. I don't like, I like flour tortillas more than corn tortillas. Most American people do, I think.

I'm a corn guy. Yeah. You're a corny ass guy. I am. I prefer a corn tortilla. That makes me corny than I'm corny. I like that they're on corn tortillas. Yeah.

It does bother me that you have to pay for chips and salsa. I feel like if, because it's definitely an establishment where you're going to have to sit and wait for your food. Right. It's not just there. And I don't, do they have a drive-thru one? They, I haven't seen one. In like San Diego or something.

Yeah. But since I'm going to be sitting there, give me some chips and taco. I'm going to have chips and salsa. Yeah. Salsa. That's how I say it. That's how we say it in the south.

So yeah, that, that, that does bug me. Right. Oh, and I don't like a Pepsi product forced on me. Oh man. Yep. Yeah. It's an issue. Is Pepsi okay?

No, it's not. Damn. It tastes like medicine. Wow. Sorry. I have, I have a dipepsi right here because we got Zank. I got Zank. Emma and I and you song got Zanku.

And I get, I get what you're saying. I think Diet Coke is, is much better. Oh yeah. Or Coke Zero. Yeah. Coke Zero. That's the kind of poison I like. I mean, it's definitely very bad for you, but it tastes much better.

Yeah. The more I drink it as I get older, I feel like I am getting stomach cancer every day. I will also say this. I think that the menu is laid out in a way that's supposed to make it simpler, but it feels more complex. It's confusing. The menu is fucking confusing as hell. And it takes everyone at, I watched two people go in there and be like,

okay, wait, what? Like they were completely confused. It's hard to parse. Pick out your protein and then, but then it doesn't say and then what? It's not like, pick out your protein. Next step, this it's just like, pick out your protein and then have at it. I got, I got the hang of it, but it was very, I'll, I guess I'll, I'll tell you what I got for my order.

I got the chicken tortilla soup. I almost got one of those. How was that? It was not great. Okay. Cause they were, so I ordered my meal and then she was like, do you want any like appetizer or anything? I was like, that's good.

I should get something else. And I got the chicken tortilla soup. It was very like, it was kind of like watery, like a, like a kind of watery soup based thing. Like a, like a, you know, when you get a chicken soup and it like tastes like boiled, like, you know, like a, like a, like broth. Yeah. Like, yeah, like just, yeah, there was, there was no creaminess to here.

Take, you can take a look at it right here. Oh no. It's like, uh, like Mitch is showing us a, a bowl that just looks kind of like a pozzoli. Yeah. It does it. Honestly, it looks like, it looks not particularly brothy and that it looks like it's like loaded with protein.

There were four pieces of chicken in it. So that, what am I seeing? It's tortilla, tortilla, tortilla. I got to know each one. You knew their names and their addresses. There, I got, I, they were, they were out of the bowl very quickly. There was literally four pieces of chicken and it was just, it's a bummer. You know, sometimes you get a chicken noodle soup and it's like kind of like

the watery broth. Yes, but it can be very, it can be spiced really well and it's good and sometimes it's a little creamery or buttery or whatever. I don't know. I'm right. Someone's going to make fun of me for this, but who cares? But this was like very much like that. I think as far as things, you've disclosed this episode that people can

make fun of. This is like 19th on the list. So don't worry about it. It was, it was very, it was a very watery broth. I thought Mickey Mouse would choose him. Of all the kids, Mickey would choose me. Sure. Your days are numbered, Mitchell.

I probably thought you were somebody better. Never mind. I'll go murder this other kid. I probably was like, what's his name? Pete, fat, Peter, something who's a bad guy? Oh yeah. I know you're talking about. It's like a, it's like a big fat dog.

Yeah. Right dog. I'm going to get you a mini that guy. He's kind of like, he's kind of like ever said that. Yeah. He's very similar to Bluto, but, but anyways, this thing was the, it was very kind of watery. It's Bluto's fursona.

I love looking at all of those, these things now that like, okay, so that was clearly written by a very small man. Right, right. He was like, you know, the bad guy is a big man. He's a big man. I'm scared of them. All right. What happened to you?

Anyway, the soup was not great and it was very watery, brothy. It was, it was just in four pieces of chicken. Then I got, I ordered the chips and salsa. Here's what I'll say. The chips are good there. The chips are really good there. They, they, they mine were warm and they seemed fresh and they tasted good. And then the salsas are good there too.

I got one of each salsa. The salsas are great. And they also like Nick, you said they, did you see down below on the bottom of this picture, they give like a big bowl of salsa with the chicken? They give you a lot, which is good, which you can just get at the salsa bar though. It doesn't make any sense that they give you a big bowl of salsa.

I got mine to go and they gave me three things full of the. What's the salsa? Pico de gallo. Right. I'm like, okay, no, no chips. Just a lot of Pico de gallo. Right. Pico de gallo.

When I first moved out here, like one of my favorite salsas and now probably at the bottom of the list, Pico de gallo. It's like a salad. It's no good. A little too chunky. Yeah, too much. I got, so I got a two taco plate. I did the fried, fried fish taco.

And then I also did the, the, the, the fish taco, that spicy level. Right. And it's just basically kind of like Cajun spices on there. So like we were saying, the confusing thing with the ordering, there's, there's three ways to get it. There's the citrus slaw taco, the 1988 taco and the spicy chai taco. And, uh, or is it, that's right, right? Spicy chai, CHI, or is it just spicy?

Chi, because that's the one that's supposed to, that they're trying to compete with the Koji tacos. Yeah. They're, yeah, they're trying to do like a kind of an Asian infused taco. I thought it was Chi. I fucked up. Whatever citrus, citrus slaw taco is Chi citrus law, which you talked about, Negus, cabbage, cilantro, onions, carrots, tossed in lime juice, olive oil,

and secret spices in homemade aioli sauce. And then the 1988 taco is cheese, lettuce, or, or cabbage. Weird. They didn't ask me and salsa. I did the citrus law for the fried taco, because the, the woman behind the counter said to do that. And I did the 1988 taco for the, just the regular fish taco, but they didn't put cheese on it, which it says there's cheese and there just was no cheese on it.

So they also forgot that. And I used, I used a lot of, which I do a lot. There was, there was kind of an avocado salsa. And then there was a, and then there was a Verde. And I used the Verde a lot and a little bit of the avocado. Both green sauces are nice. They're nice. Yeah.

Yeah. The green sauce is that I mentioned is kind of cucumber. It is an avocado that's, that's, that's kind of the base of it. And then yeah, that the actual, the more, the more traditional salsa Verde is also very, very nice. Those are both good sauce. The, the, the, the tacos were fine to de, like decently good. They got the job done.

They got the, they got the job done. And I also got myself, I went with the green, the tropic green tea and it just tasted like green. There was no flavor to it. The Shangri-La, the Shangri-La tropic green tea. And there was no, and so I went, I mean, that it wasn't sweet or that there was just like, no, it just tasted straight up like green tea. And maybe that's just, maybe that's what it was supposed, but I thought it was

going to be like kind of tropical or something. But anyways, I just, I got a diet Pepsi, which tastes like medicine as you, as you know. But my favorite thing was probably the chips in salsa. And then I got the white rice and I got a mix and the, and the lady behind the counter told me that she was great. She said, you can do a mix where you get black beans and the, what were they called?

Nick, the white, the Cajun, white Cajun, white beans, yeah, and I, and the the rice and beans are, are nice. Yeah, it's not bad. I've, I've, I've just a lot of thoughts. Do you want me to, should I just go? I just feel like it's in the five years since I've went before. It's kind of dropped off. It's possible.

And I think this was your observation, Mitch, via text. It's the time is past this place. But time is past this place by is my big thing. If you go to a fish taco shop, you want to go to an authentic fish taco place, right? There's one of the best fish tacos in Encinitas over here in Los Villas. I want to go there now and that place is great and, and, and this place is just

like it's, it's, it feels like it, it like first of all, it's this theme of like a surf shop, right, or not, and you're, it's not by the ocean. So it is like a theme and it's like a thing, and there was like, there was a thing, a sign on the bubblegum machine that was like nars the waves or so. And I was like, this is, this isn't, this is, it's kind of frozen in time. I shred the gnar and eat at Wahoo's and I'm like in look 10 years ago or whatever when I was first out here, it made sense. This place made sense.

It was the place to go. Like if you want to get a fish taco, this is one of the places I was going right as far as like like, but in 2006, this place made the most sense and it was, and it was good. And now it just, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense anymore. No. It just, it doesn't make sense. All my memories of liking it include me reading in LA Weekly.

Yeah. Sitting there and like, that's not here anymore either. Right. Like I'd taken over by like weird Orange County Libertarians who like bought the paper and turned it into some weird, like, wing rag. Like print media in general. Yes, that's true. I'm not sitting anywhere and reading a newspaper.

Yeah. Anymore and it is all, they're all items of the past. Right. It's, it's just, it's just so weird that that was kind of like, oh, this is kind of like a cool place to go to. It's now, it is no longer cool. I will say the last time I went back in the day, my mom and dad were in town. We were going to Motza, Pizzeria Motza.

So the last time I went was when I lived at a different place in my dad was still alive. So it was over probably a decade ago is the last time I went and we were going to Motza for dinner. So Ted wasn't even out yet. Foss and accent came out and Ted was not even Ted was the script wasn't even written for Ted yet. And so we went to, we were going to Pizzeria Motza or Motza for dinner.

And we had Wahoo's for lunch. We just had like a fish taco for lunch. I got food poisoning and I, and I rarely ever have food poisoning because I feel like shit all the time anyways. I feel, I basically every day I feel like I have food poisoning. But this was like one where I was like, I feel fucking sick. I feel like I'm going to throw up and, and it was from, it was from Wahoo's for sure.

And so that was the last time I went there and going back. I'm like, if the food isn't bad, it's just like we're saying, right? Like and also I will say I went to the one on Wilshire. There was a bucket on the counter, which will one on Wilshire, the one, the one that's close to LACMA or the one that's further out. I think the one that's close. Yeah, the one that's close to LACMA. Is that where is that?

Okay, there's I wonder if it was still there. There was a big bucket on the counter and it was there was water dripping. No, that wasn't into the bucket. You might have not even noticed from like a pipe in the ceiling. Yes, but it was coming out of it was coming out of a light fixture, which just seems so dangerous. I got pictures of it. I don't remember that seeing that, but I fully believe that it would have been

there. Right. Okay, that fits in to the place that I went, which like maybe if you were at like if you look if you were at a taco shop down by the beach like an authentic taco shop, you'd be like, well, hurricane probably came through. Yeah, you're like, oh cool. This is funny. Like it's a dingy little taco shop.

Who gives a shit? Nick, I don't know if I ever brought you to Juanita's, but one in Encinitas, but Juanita's is like a place that like is kind of dingy like that. And I love it. Right. And but this now that it's a chain, you're like, this sucks. I don't I don't like that there is water dripping by electrical equipment. Your expectations change a little bit.

Yeah, I mean, you know, but and part of this, and I think part of what you guys are driving is that we're a little spoiled as Angelino's because there are so many great taquerias around. There are so many places you can go. Swipe that it's the one to it's the next one. That one, that one over his phone to Eliza. I didn't want to see that part of you. Oh, that.

Yeah, that probably was there. Yeah. Oh, gross. Yeah. So it's a it's, you know, for us, the options are myriad where there are lots of places we can go to get it to get a superior fish taco or taco in general. But, you know, a place like this that operates at the scale that it does. I do think it's a pretty decent fish taco in terms of their flagship item.

I think it's a good, it might be the best fish taco you can get in Pennsylvania, but they are very excited about it being Alaskan flounder. That's I think that's that's very true. Yeah, they say that as soon as you get in there and I'm like what like it ruined everything for me because I was like, I thought this would be like a California fish like a mahi mahi or all the way in Alaska and it's the flounder. You know, the thing that's like hideous. Do you know about flounder puberty?

No, I don't know. They probably don't call it puberty, but please do tell when they're, when flounders are like adolescent fish, they are, they swim like everybody else. Okay, eyes on either side of their head. And then when they mature, one eye travels around the side of their head. So they got two eyes on one side and it's not like, oh, these eyes are always supposed to be there. It looks like one eye has been dragged over to the side,

which makes any kind of middle school boner or surprise period. I think nothing in comparison. What a nightmare. Yeah. Jesus Christ. It happened to me. Shut up. I shouldn't have made fun of that.

We all know that it happened to you. Right. Clearly, obviously. Thank you. It happened to you. You photograph well. You all, you know, you know your angles. That's that is that's crazy.

And it's the funniest thing. Just just the idea of like, yeah, it's this weird fish. This now that I know is a monster. Fresh and and oh, so you freeze it and you bring it down to California. That sucks. How come you got this fish? This like a swordfish appear on the walls everywhere. Right.

Someone is going to get mad at us and be like, flounders, actually the best tasting fish. They're there. There will be something. It's all so obvious. It's all just white fish. Some weird freak that's eyes moved over to her puberty. Do you guys think that you have got reached the point where like fast food

establishments like treat you like like they're like oh fuck it's those guys. I don't think we did not at all. Everyone get going in the kitchen are aware of who we are here. We were we were going to we were joking that like for places that got into the platinum play club that we were going to ask to put a thing on the window that like it's a platinum play club winner and we both were like they're going to say no we're going to get turned down by these restaurants. I would say yes.

Why would they I think I could call up and be like I have a thing and it's you're this special good place award and I'd like you to put it in your windows. They'd be like okay. Nobody would ever turn down a like a validation. I wonder if they'll turn down like our shit pit certificate. Probably yeah. I mean if the sticker looks like like a flaccid dick and balls and like yeah. Maybe they won't but besides that if you don't put your pictures then no.

Well let's get to our final thoughts on Wahoos. So Eliza here's how this will work. We'll each go around. We'll sort of give a closing argument if you will on this chain involving our most recent experience our previous experiences and then a sign it a rating on the order of zero to five forks. We will begin with you. Okay I say I did like the fish taco but in terms of ambiance and everything else. I say I would recommend that you go 10 years ago.

Yeah. Yeah so I guess I'd give it one fork. One fork. My god. Wow. Out of how many? Out of five. Oh god okay then one.

This was a place you used to like. I know. I know. I was trying to be yeah just one. No I love it. I really I think that's I love it. I think that's honest. It's a bold it's it's very bold.

If they'd given me free chips I would have made it too. The chips do bring it up in my mind. They're good chips. Like I said. And they're not super cheap tacos. Oh that was another thing. My meal was like $20 for two fish tacos and beans and rice a drink and then right there how much did that cost $10 maybe.

Okay right. I mean do you think it should be 11 dollars and then so then you put in what the the the the chicken tortilla soup is this $9 you know what I mean I mean that's that's that's insane. I mean I think it was $5 on the on the menu but that's it's that's expensive. I mean there's sales tax but yeah it's a thing. Hold on a second. Are you what the fuck are you talking about? It's expensive restaurant.

I'm just saying it's like it wasn't a $9 tortilla soup. A quote unquote expensive restaurant. I mean it's still. It was $5 for the chicken soup. It's pricey for weight. Maybe maybe maybe that was maybe that was the best bargain of the bunch of two tacos beans and rice was then what $14 yeah and a drink. That's fucking crazy a lot.

It's a lot. It's crazy enough that they could give me chips. Right. Yes. They should give chips. It's a place that times passed by there was a fucking bucket with water on it on the fucking counter dripping out of the electrical fucking equipment by the lights. The the tea didn't taste well.

I had a drink fucking diet Pepsi product like you said. Look if you're going to get a fish taco you got to go you should really gnar the surf and go down to the beach or go go to some place that's known for the go to best fish tacos in Encina. You want to go to you want to go to one of these places that's authentic. What's the other one that's like a cart or whatever there's like a guy Tony. I forget what the fuck it's called. There's another there's another fish taco and gold carts. Yeah there's like a there's a fish taco plate that people place that people love out here too.

But don't go to Wahoo's. I agree with you Nick maybe if you're in Pennsylvania or something this place is the best fish tacos you can do. But for me it's a 2.5 fork restaurant baby. Wow two forks two times from the Spoonman Mike Mitchell. Wow you know I have a lot of nice memories of Wahoo's. I did really enjoy it years ago you know even though my number of trips have tail off. I you know I as a so Cal surfer dude myself I love any place that that that uses the surf

theme. I mean and then that's a so Cal original like you're not a still wearing your wetsuit for noise. It's got to get me like a rash or something. And you know this place will give some tasty bites after you've been blazing a reefer buddy. Oh my god you couldn't even say reefer. I wasn't sure what the terminology was.

Emma's disappointed in you. But that is really cool. So you know I like I like the theming. I like that it's from so Cal. I like the history of the place. It's like interesting. It's you know it's these these these brothers who are ethnically Chinese from Brazil who opened a great story like it's an interesting story behind it.

And I think it did have a lot in terms of of impacting the local food culture and popularizing the fish taco along with rubios which is the other place that kind of spread it. So you know I think this I think Wahoo's contributed a lot as far as historically and as far as you know specific memories there's one time when you know my betrothed by wife Natalie got me a a I was working graveyard shift. And this is when we were dating. You worked at a graveyard. Yeah that's right.

Oh Jesus. I kept the Dracula's at bay. Cool. Uh the uh no I was working graveyard shift in the video game industry and like I woke up from like you know nightmare like I was sleeping. I was working at night sleeping during the day and I woke up and Natalie had like she'd gotten me a Wahoo's burrito and I was like oh that was very it was very nice thing to wake up to and I remember that specifically you told me this story before and what did I

say about this story. Wait I didn't remind me what you said. I said that this is sounds like a story you'd say on your deathbed to no one. Right yeah nurse humoring me would like listen to this dementia right but and then also this is the specific one that I went to is where we once saw that's right next to this really nice Japanese small plates restaurant and there was like a homeless guy outside of it just like just like blatantly pounding off but like under his pants and just like really going at it. This is one of your good memories to the point where it was like it was like kind of fun for

passers-by like no one was like no one was like creeped out by him they were just like that guy's going at it you know and so it was like I just have that association with it but uh and I like the food okay I just that my most recent experience was not great it was just kind of it was kind of meh the fish taco is the standout I think that's the thing to go if you end up at a Wahoo's the thing to go with if you end up at a Wahoo's a lot of the other stuff is like you were saying Mitch very dry and very uneven uh I got a question yes was the guy Louie oh bitch yeah and you know what I guess that's why you liked it yeah he did a drop in at that Japanese restaurant recently it's weird he got a standing ovation oh god I shouldn't have made

that joke sorry I don't think he did get a standing ovation okay but he got an ovation it was like yeah I was initially reported incorrectly um but I was standing but the show was over I have a lot to say but uh anyway the uh uh you know it's it's it's just tailed off a little bit it's not great anymore it's it's fine I'm still going to give it just funny like a fish tail it is like a fish tail yeah yeah I I'm gonna give it I'm gonna go right down the middle and say it's a three fork spot I still think it's fine but it's not outstanding there's no real reason to go out of your way to go there but if you end up there I think we order right things you can end up with a decent meal can I say this yes they they they they could by the way I had two

tour a court to both of my fish tacos came on corn tortillas one was yellow and one was white like uh it was weird but it is weird one was not integration bothers you no god damn it what I'm you want your tortillas pure I'm saying that why were these both corn like and I had pulled them apart and I was like tasted them separately they both wore corn tortillas so I my my mystery is why they were two different color corn tortillas anyways um this place needs to do a couple things I think it needs to simplify that menu it's way too confusing yeah it's yeah absolutely it's it's just it's way way way too confusing and I think that they they I think that it's a sort of place that it could be good for what it is if right maybe they

just kind of simplified it a little bit and and maybe made it closer to like pulled back and made more like what the shacks are like and it's like here is just the the fish is the star of right this meal because you get so much other shit that I like through the cabin of stuff I could barely taste the fish so but maybe the fish shouldn't be the star of the meal because that weird fucking flounder from Alaska so that's true and yeah and certainly their grilled fish was a little subpar it's it's a good story but yeah yeah it's time for regular segment we've got a brood dog and we're gonna see if it's weird it's another edition of strange brood dogs brood dogs are strange when you're a stranger fast food tastes better when you're tipsy

people talk louder when you're not sober streets are uneven when you're drunk when you're strange brood dogs come pouring like rain when you're strange everybody knows your name just like cheers when you're strange when you're strange brood dogs okay well was the lizard king here yeah lizard king made an appearance why don't you say norm every like just like cheers I think you should say norm at some point just like norm okay but the lyric is everybody knows your name is from cheers it's not from norm I know but everyone knows norms I'm saying add in norm just like just like norm from cheers no I'm saying just like cheers like and then saying yeah just like norm or I don't know just like cheers I should say it three times yeah just like cheers stirring

norm okay great when you're strange I mean it's ridiculous but it might be funny I just noticed your shirt oh Mitch live sure oh I thought maybe Mitch was dying Mitch you thought it was Mitch live yeah Mitch live that's a lost cause I gotta say right off the bat yeah this thing yeah so let's let's say confusing name Nick why don't you introduce it also I think that the Hollywood Handbook guys maybe suggested they suggested this to us and also I called you corny I called you current corny earlier that's what they always call you they use they say that to insult me so it's is it called hops to I think it's h2ops is that correct you song it's too confusing I don't like the name hop water it's

sparkling hop water so this is not alcoholic it's not actually alcoholic it's a it's a water it's carbonated water made with brood hops but it is completely out do you drink yeah okay all right good we never even asked you the worst part of beer we're gonna find out it's zero calories it's zero calories we'll see zero car like non-alcoholic beer or something else I'm gonna take a sip right now so it comes in a green bottle of kin to a rolling rock it's a very interesting taste it's like a very bitter diluted beer that's what I get it tastes like talking to someone through the door like just come inside you know I'm saying it tastes like it tastes like a an eye an IPA that's like been mixed with water it is yeah a diluted IPA but you know what it also is a it's

kind of refreshing even though it's weird it's like weird to sip on but it kind of does these are what there's quenching say what it does yeah I do feel like there is a a dearth or a hole in the market there's no non-sweet beverages that's true non-alcoholic beverages yeah so like if you're gonna have a beverage you got water or you got something sweet right and I think that's part everybody makes fun of all the like lacry I think that's one of the reasons why people are so into it yeah because like you don't always want a sweet treat sometimes you want something else right we'll say this does do that it gives a yes absolutely and it gives like a hint of a flavor that's not I guess tea also would right but this is like but it's not like a beer flavor yeah it's

not like a fruit flavor it's yeah you're right it's like it's like it's it's very it's distinctly bitter it's aggressively bitter I don't like tastes like there's something wrong with the water I don't like hoppy beers is maybe an issue I have with this it's very hoppy it's well now I'm just thinking about a frog now I'm thinking about a frog Nick what are you thinking about I'm thinking about a Mario Mario he hops around a lot oh then the frog suit yeah he also has a frog suit you weren't the command and turns into a he throws a fucking cappy on a frog and he's fucking his frog Mario so yeah that happens too all right god get off my back are you guys part of that Mario thing have funnier dive for a while there was like a whole like jack created the

whole chart of like the Mario family I think that was after my I love that yeah I think that was that was maybe a little bit after my era when he's got really into the lineage of the Mario yeah extended family when I mean that was when jack started to lose his mind right yeah I guess the three people here that know jack very well yeah and we've always pinpointed the moment yeah okay yeah when he started like trying like fighting out like a worry how exactly yeah like the like the detectives tracking the zoe killer it wasn't even that it was all the congs it was all the congs it was the cong oh you talked you talked about the cong family tree yeah the cong family tree is very intricate I feel like you were involved I didn't you know what I don't think I

was around for that but I do remember communicating with Jack he may have kind of just used me as a resource part of the one did you start losing your mind I think I you know what I'm gonna say it I if we're if we're going with a I don't know what our we actually don't have a rating system we're still drinking it is not not refreshing it's very this is weird I'm gonna say this is if we're deciding whether or not this is strange or not this is absolutely strange but I kind of like it but this is certified strange can I offer a fix for it yes please if they made this spicy I think I would oh wow if there was like a little heat to it right I would like a more fruity taste to it well yeah yeah like maybe a Melanie kind of yeah something that

Melanie but like melon yeah right I don't know who Melanie lemon lime maybe strawberry or something in there just a little bit of like a like a mango you ever get like a mango like an IPA or something like that what if they put in like a little mango or like a watermelon and a little spice that would be fun mix it up a little bit it turns out though that hops are not not bad for you apparently they're not they're not fucking you up with beer no hops in and of themselves all right that's it's the brewing process that's actually you know causing those sugars and yeast and so on okay no calories um I you know yeah I don't know this is this is weird I think we all agree oh yeah sort of certified strange this is a strange strange brew here very much a strange brew dog but I don't

know whether it goes like it I don't I don't know whether to go soft drink or soft stank like I don't know it's it's it's it's is that the new rating system it's a drink or stank where it's either soft drink or soft stank I don't know this is a soft drink so we can say soft drink or soft stank is it a sip or a slip it's a sip or a slip this is a sip for me I feel like it's a slip for me it's oh god it's so I really don't know I'm so in the middle what's between drink and stank um the taint this is a drink taint for me I got it's right in the middle it's there's not there's nothing it's like a because I don't hate it right but also I'm like yeah weird I don't know I don't like I'm still drinking it but I don't know I think it's in front of me it's weird

and I'm going to finish it I think that I'm I could see myself growing to like these and I think also maybe the like what you were pitching this neutral variant may eventually give way to some sort of superior flavored alts that are maybe a little soft soft it's better better get on it fast if they want to succeed yeah soft stank for me I just took a big gulp of it soft stank uh well that was strange broodogs just like a restaurant value feedback let's open the feedback and hey we have a voicemail this week let's listen to this one oh hi the voice this is elcap 666 I'm your number one fan from Mexico City uh I'm an airline captain that's how I know most of the chain restaurants you visit on the show so my question tonight is is there any food item or

ingredient that you do not understand or used to not understand for example I don't know what a truffle is and I used to think it was chocolate and I'm pretty sure it is not but I am too lazy to find out myself was he was he flying a plane while he was calling in midair yeah thanks for thanks for calling it thanks for listening to Mexico City did he say the devil's number did I miss something I think it might have been like a handle he was using yeah he threw out a 666 in there yeah go get rid of the devil give it give get a nice god number yeah we don't like el diablo north of the border that's cool though that's very cool you know I think we've all thought of the truffle travel thing before yeah it's bet like it's dumb it is they should have two different

names what whoever called those chocolate treats truffles yeah that's a real dick move right because it's nothing I mean it is nothing it's completely different then they knew that doing it yeah this is a this is such a hard question because there's definitely stuff I don't know you know what one but I can't think of it because I don't know what one that absolutely don't know what we don't know right the that's a that's old rumsfeld quandary via the thing that comes to mind for me because I'm holding one in front of me I don't know what a hop is yeah I don't know I do what a hop is it looks like a little nugget it looks like an acorn it's a weird looking fucking green thing a green thing I don't know what it what it comes from I don't know what kind of plane what kind of plan it's

from I said plane because you're a pilot but that's that's not related I don't know what I don't know what if it's a if it's a grain I don't know what what it is I don't know if it grows in the ground or on a tree I have no fucking idea but I drink beer all the time I'm drinking this hot base beverage right now no idea what it is so yeah hop is maybe one of my answers uh yeah what what's what's hominy hominy I don't know that's good hominy is strange like a bean no I think it's part of corn is that what it is oh yes okay I know what you're talking about I was thinking of something else you know what I was thinking of hummus it's not oh no no because well I know what that is that how many yeah hominy is but also I don't know what a chickpea is what's a chick is that

like a legume bean is it a bean chickpea is like a little yeah it's like a little yeah a little bean I get I just don't know what kind of plan it grows from so I don't yeah there's then there's that there's so much stuff that I don't know the sourcing of so it's it's dried corn that okay rehydrated and cooked that's what hominy is it's again I've had it it's akin to grits but not exactly well yeah I think it's what grits are made out of the same thing but yeah it's one of those things that I'm like it's some corn part right but I don't know what you know speaking of corn those little corns I don't know what those are all about yeah I don't know baby because they're not like it's not like a baby corn what are they or no what is that pickles the corner corn and

Sean is something else I have I don't know what's going on there is that a pickled little corn that's a little pickle a little pickle I don't know baby corns I really hate that I used to think they were great and then I grew up and I was like what the fuck I mean they're hilarious but they're not good to eat they are funny and you think of like a mouse with one of those it's like a treat it's like too big for them that's adorable I'm like I'm too big for this that's fun I got a question for you what's what's I know it's a cheese but what's a mars capone mars capone cheese that's like a sweet cream cheese kind of a sweet cream cheese okay all right there the well you answer that for me I don't know what the fuck I don't know anything goes inside cannoli

oh I do know that oh it's good fondant I don't know what's going on with fondant oh fondant's disgusting it's I know it's meant for show not for eating exactly but like I like I don't know how you make it oh I think it's cornstarch right I think there's a lot of cornstarch in there and some sugar okay a lot of coloring I think I found I think I found a list of some of some weird ones shellac sh i don't know I mean also they put like what did you that's not food oh it's not oh it's because gelatin is in here okay well what the fuck is what is gel what did you google gelatin is from it's just sugar no it's me it's what can makes things congealed like jello and it's from bones that's strange so there's there are candies there these candies that I like called

jelly babies that they have in the UK and they're illegal here they can't import them well made with gelatin from the UK and you can't import beef products oh because of mad cow cow so oh wait there is it is it is it is on where you'll find shell like they like it's on it is it's on it's on a jelly beans and candy corn oh okay so I guess it's any kind of shiny coating is shellac I was thinking of like a sticky substance derived from secretions of the female an insect native to Thailand that's fucked up you know fucking bug slime and a jelly bean I don't want listen up jelly beans I don't want fucking bug slime all over you this is the same here all food is bug slime oh god that's terrible the nightmare world I mean I was even just thinking like the like

like just regular ingredients that I don't even know and get which is thousands of yeah I don't know shit I told you I'm a dumb idiot yeah I shouldn't have won the sperm race it's fucked up we'd both be happier hey if you have a you have a food out there you don't know what's going on with it hashtag mystery ingredient let us know let us know whatever is in your food that you have no idea what it is or where it came from this this article saying that there's a bunch of ingredients and shit from insects this is yeah there are there's a lot of stuff that's crazy I do know that like that very common red dye comes from some sort of beetle so like a lot of stuff that with with a with

a red in it red number nine it might be that this number something this stuff car am I saying on car car my car mine car mine I know it was pronounced differently it's pretty much how it looks but this is all this is all bug based it's an ice cream and skittles and good what the fuck I don't I'm eating bug shit all the time you're eating it constantly I don't want to eat fucking bugs and that's like on top of the eight spiders you eat in your sleep every every year those are intentional he has really weird right sleep habits but yeah let us go hey you fucking this question sucks I don't want to this this is crazy it's freaking us it's freaking us out let us out hey you know it's pulling the wool back a wool from our eyes you know all the the fucking tricks

that corporate america is doing in our food supply system six six six that handle might not just be a handle maybe that's the devil himself I what about this what is soft serve is it frozen custard is it just ice cream are those three different things are they all the same thing really cold milk I don't know I don't know hey I'd let my mind let us know what you think hashtag mystery and green and hey if you have a question in common about the world of chain restaurants you name that's a dope boys podcast at gmail.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 godo that's 830 4636844 and hey to get bonus content go to the go to patreon.com slash dope boys you can join the the golden plate club or or one of our other available options Eliza Skinner thank you so much

for joining us gracing us with your presence the podcast that you're saying great seeing us I was like yeah it was great seeing you it was great seeing us wasn't it we would sign off that would because I also I would know it's not true this is a miserable experience anywhere a guest here sitting through this garbage cool playlist is the podcast how can people check it out they can look for it wherever they like to get podcasts whatever your podcast thing is at the website is cool playlist pod.com and it's cool playlist pod on all of the socials cool playlist pod anything else you would like to plug me Eliza Skinner at Eliza Skinner on twitter at eSkins on instagram Eliza Skinner.com for whatever except don't send me an email saying

that I need to make a better website I get a lot of those yeah and don't send us an email saying we need to make a website because we're not going to do it yeah we're not doing it well thank you so much for joining us and hey Mitch that'll do it for this episode of dope boys hell yeah nick until next time for the spoon man Mike Mitchell I'm nick weigher happy eating see ya sleep tight like you pick him hey guys you want more dope boys to get the dope boys double our weekly bonus episode join the golden plate club sign up at patreon.com slash dope boys do it that was a hate gun podcast