Doughboys - Wendy's 2 with Jacob Wysocki

Episode Date: April 1, 2021

Jacob Wysocki (I Don't Want To Talk About Fight Club Anymore) joins the 'boys to discuss yoga, video games, and Wendy's. Plus, a Diet Coke edition of Jingle All The Whey.Sources for this week's intro: https://www.wendys.com/who-we-arehttps://www.nav.com/blog/the-inspirational-story-of-wendys-founder-dave-thomas-30772/https://biography.yourdictionary.com/dave-thomashttps://mathcs.clarku.edu/~djoyce/elements/bookII/bookII.htmlWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In November of 1969, just as the swinging 60s were set to transition to the Swinger 70s, a burger shop opened in Columbus, Ohio, founded by a buttoned-up figure who looked wholly out of step with the sexual revolution, Dave Thomas. As horny hippies and randy suburbanites continued their collective two-decade-long fuck rampage, Thomas focused on stuffing consumers' holes with something more wholesome, hamburger sandwiches. And to showcase his concepts claim of fresh, never-frozen meat, Thomas hit on an unfamiliar form factor for his ground patties, a shape that had never before been observed in nature, an equilateral rectangle which came to be known as a square.

Theorized by Euclid in his treatise The Elements and condemned as the devil's diamond of the Old Testament, the humble hamburger merchant Thomas inadvertently invented the 2D shape and in so doing, revolutionized geometry. By the mid-70s, mathematics textbooks included the concept of the square root of numbers. Chestboards were redesigned to be grids of squares instead of trapezoids. The now-familiar checkered tablecloth came into fashion, and youth around the country learned how to square dance. With the 1980s came the peak of the square's relevance as the Rubik's Cube craze consumed

a nation and the Huey Lewis song, Hip to Be Square, hit the top of the charts. And the square's relevance continues to resonate with the release of the 2021 masterpiece Zack Snyder's Justice League, though pet insulances the film's 4x3 frame is not technically a square. Dave Thomas died a virgin, never having shot a single load. But by never coming in, on, or even near anyone, Thomas was able to do something more important. Create a fast-food burger that stood the test of time, and in so doing, invent a new shape. This week on Doe Boys, we return, once again, to Wendy's and April Fool's. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants.

I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, Boner Petit. The Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. What is that? Oh, is that like a steak pun? Like Boner Petit. Oh, wow. That's from John in Seattle, roastspoonmanageemail.com. I mean, the roast is accurate, but yikes.

Long walk for that one. Not that long of a walk. Just kind of a strained pun. Yeah, no, it sucked. What? It's mean to tell people that it sucks when they make fun of me? No, I'd like it. I like this energy we start off with, and speaking of energy to start off with the show, Mitch,

I did something today, which I think I'm going to make a regular practice before our records, because we record in kind of the mid-morning Pacific time. I meditated, and I did yoga. And you know what? I'm feeling nice and tranquil and relaxed, feeling all stretched out and loose. I'm ready to go. You meditated to climax, it seems. I busted and collapsed in a shavasada.

Wow, meditation, huh? Hell yeah. Well, I had a tuna fish sandwich today. That's nice. Me and our guests were talking about it before you arrived. I want to pull one out. Yeah, that's right. One of those fucking bullshit things you pull on me, which I never pull on you.

That's fair. I was a couple minutes late before our start. I think it was about 2.04, 2.05 when you clocked in. Well, in your time zone. It's different. The minutes are different. Yeah. Wait, partly why?

What is your excuse? No, I said partly because I kind of was like, ah, do we have time to do this yoga? This video yoga? Yeah, I'm going to try to fit it in and then it was just like a little bit tight. That's why I was a little late. Does yoga have? I'm glad I did it. When you meditate, is there like a hum?

Is that true? Or is that like a? I think it depends on what style you're doing. I thought this was like a little kid who found out about yoga. Your only reference is Ace Ventura. Do you levitate like Dalsum? I thought it would be funny if when everyone says hum, you said yum. That's what I thought.

Oh, that is fun. All right. If I do one of those home style meditations, I'll throw in a yum. Yeah. Okay, good. I'll do nom. That's, oh God, nom. You know, at least the nom era has ended.

That's what I'll say. Yeah. There's no more like nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom was bad. I hated nom. The Puppez era. Yeah. You're getting deep because I know these but barely, but nom, nom, nom was like that was

bad for a while. I'm hearing this. I'm having nom flashbacks. Oh my God. Wow. Nom flashbacks. To those early internet days. Someone's going to send me all your base can be, can, or belong to us meme.

Look, I'm not intelligent enough to joke about all this. So I'm going to go right into my drop. How to how to Spoon Nation and here wigs is a little drop. Lost my baguette in the car. I somehow lost a mini baguette somewhere in the car. No, I didn't would not have thought a man could lose a baguette until it happened to me. All right.

There it is. Hey, dough boys. It's been in my head ever since the last Panera app. Hope you like it. Keep up the good work. Heel Houser from the Dose Squad. Hi, Heel. Hi, Heel.

Um, Wigs, did you ever find that baguette? No, never found. Do you want to know my theory? Yes. Lodge that fucking dump truck ass of yours. I think it's somewhere in my crack. Somewhere in there. I don't think that's plausible.

I think it would have. I think it would have found it by now. I think it's up there. Also, let me just say, you've been trying to get this dump ass. What were you trying to say? Dump truck ass? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There wasn't.

There's a big ass thing you were trying to get going. It didn't really have traction. But I don't. I don't think that is an insult. It gets aspirational for a lot of people. I think it's got plenty of traction. Aspirational. There we go, Emma.

You got one of those trucks that you're afraid to go around. It's so damn big. Wide load. Wide load. I got a shelf. Hey, you know what? I'll take it. There are worse qualities to have.

Yeah, it looks good on you. Thanks, dude. Thanks for complimenting my ass, Mitch. We should introduce our guest. This is a long time coming, this episode. We'll get into it. But he's an actor and comedian and host of the podcast. I don't want to talk about Fight Club anymore, which is available on Head Gum.

Jacob Weisaki. Hi, Jacob. What's up? And Namaste. Oh, I love it. I, too, am coming off the heels of a yoga sesh. Hell yeah. Wow.

My light salutes your light. I love it. What kind of yoga do you gravitate towards? I'm kind of a basic bee, and I'm just doing yoga with Adrienne. She's a YouTube starlet, very popular, I think, online. And she has these great little 30-day programs, and I'm hitting it Monday through Friday. Oh, that's rad. I'm relaxing on the weekends.

I'm feeling good. You're turning into a real vegetarian. You're doing yoga. You're meditating. Yeah, yeah, and I'm not eating meat this year. I will say that this is, okay, I've been doing yoga for a few years, and it took me a while to get into the video yoga, because I'm just so used to being in that classroom setting. But when I started doing it, it's amazing how it just like, there was nothing that had

more of an effect on my lower back pain, which was debilitating for a time. Just regular yoga practice, strengthening my core, and then just stretching out. It just helped me so much. Isn't it incredible how truly just a little bit can go a long way? Yeah. I used to have terrible sciatic pain, and no more. My hip flexors are great. That's awesome.

What's yoga for you? Yogurt for me. I think you do respond well to yoga, Mitch. You ever done a yoga session? No. I watched it in the series finale of Mad Men when he's doing yoga. Oh yeah, that's a good scene. But I've never, that's it.

That's about as far as I go with yoga. I've never tried it before, but I would. I'm open to it. I think it's an awesome, like, thick king activity. Wow. Yeah. I have friends who've done it and swear by it. I should try it out.

I know my mom and sister have been doing it. So, you know, I'm just not doing it. I should do it. Of course I should do it. Hey, promise me, you know? I promise you. I'll get into it. Jacob, when did you start doing it?

When did you become a yogi, as they call it? Pandemic. It was a 100% a pandemic grab. And I think my, like, lower back pain was just, like, totally accelerated by sitting around all the time. Yeah. And I think it added to it. And I also built a bicycle in quarantine,

and I was doing a lot of bicycling, and that also wrecks your lower back. So I just needed to do something to, like, not be so tight and gross. And now I'm hooked. Yeah. Yeah. When you're in a hunt, we spend so much of our days

in, like, this hunched posture, you know? And so, like, yeah, especially if you have a desk job. I'm actually, like, I do these records standing now, because I'm just trying to get out of... Oh, wow. I don't know if you can realize I'm on a st... You guys can see that I'm on a standing desk, but, like, I just, like, I'm so used to sitting in a chair so much,

and especially now. But... And that, as far as my own lower back pain, like, that was basically the source of it. It was just like, it was essentially a repetitive stress injury from just sitting at a fucking desk or a table all day. You should lay. I love to lay.

Why are you laying? Laying's not always practical. Get that laptop right on your chest. Yeah. And heats up your chest. And also, I told you this, but my plan is to one day record from bed. Oh, yeah. Kind of a Brian Wilson situation.

Just kind of be in bed all the time. You should do that. We did a bed episode when you were in Hot Lanta. Yeah. We went down there and we recorded down there. We did a bed episode. That was fun. Should we do bed month?

A month where I don't leave bed? No. Are you staying, like, for the entire month or just for the podcast? Because I don't want you to be bedridden. Entire month, I don't leave the bed. What do you think of this? I think that's probably not good for your physical or mental health. I think you probably should be getting out of bed.

That's actually my next podcast idea. Is it really? I don't talk about laying in bed anymore. Yeah, I'm going to just... Sorry to snipe this from you, Mitch, but it's been in the works a long time. Subjecting yourself to psychological torment. That's just your go-to. That's my bag.

Yeah. I mean, this year is the year to do it. Why not do a little bed trip? Sure. I could pull it off. I mean, I guess bathroom is the one issue. What do you do for bathroom? Bed ban.

You shit yourself. Bed ban. You shit yourself. I think it's an Occam's razor. An Occam's razor for that one. Can I hold it for a month? Probably not. Yeah, I don't think you could.

I don't think I could hold it for a day. You couldn't hold it for a day? Are you talking one or two? I mean, like, one is harder to hold, right? Yeah, one is harder. There's no way I could hold a number one for an entire day. I think you'd get sick. Yeah.

I think it would just come out. I think I just pissed myself. I mean, that would be funny, but I would be funny. Have you pissed yourself as an adult man, Wags? Has that happened to you? Not like a full, like, but like, like, oh, I got a piss. I just, and I didn't quite make it to the toilet. Like, but not like a full, like, it's just, you know, like,

I can't turn off the nozzle. Have you? The nozzle, Jesus. You know what I mean? Fucking visual description of what's going on. Can't kick my hose. You know what I mean? It's like those fucking emergency fire hoses

that they have in fucking apartment buildings in Weigar's pants rolled up. I remember I drank heavily with the Quincy Boys, came to LA and I drank heavily and I was having a dream. That doesn't sound like you. And I thought that I was having a nocturnal omission and I was like, oh God, I'm about to piss. I was like, I was about to piss.

I like squirted out a little squirt of piss. Yeah, that's what it'd be like a little bit. Like, I've been like, oh God, I have to use a restroom and I'm like not home and like I'm getting in the door and I'm like, you know, like almost like. Oh Jesus, that never happens to me. Awake. I mean, like, and that also that time

was the first time that's happened to me in forever. But it will just happen, huh? It will be close. I feel like I'm just going to piss over. I'm just going to pull over and piss. Yeah, that's a great point. I guess I don't have the qualms of, if we're at a real tough road,

I think I'm just going to just piss somewhere. I'm not going to risk it. Interesting. A lot of times I'm on foot or, you know, like. There's legal reasons why I can't really do that. Too big. Too much. Too much.

Can't hide it. Too much. Can't hide it. Let's calm down. I didn't want to pivoting from piss for a second. No. I didn't want to talk. I know this is what our listeners want to hear,

but we can't just talk about that. Let's keep hanging out and talking about piss. Look, we're a bunch of piss lads, all right? You can't move away from it. It's a thing that everybody deals with every day. You might as well talk about it. Now, number two, I've definitely helped for a day and probably more.

I don't think I've done that. That's never been fun. That's never been... No. And that's usually like, ah, I just kind of missed my window and now it's just not happening. Yeah.

But that's a bad day. That's a rough day. Yeah. You feel full. It's a hot god. Terrible. Awful. Awful.

Just a nightmare. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But that's unpleasant. But yeah, thank you. I'm glad we pivoted from piss to shit. But moving to another topic, because you mentioned the quarantine.

You mentioned how you're sitting down a lot and that you ended up doing this fitness regimen, transformative fitness regimen. But also, I do want to talk about because the quarantine delayed this particular recording just by virtue of circumstance. We were about to have this episode. We were about to do this episode.

And then things kind of looked like they were shutting down. We were about to do it. And then we're just like, ah, let's figure it out some other time. And then a year passes because we're fuck ups that we can't do anything. Oh, wow. And now it's finally happening.

Was it because of the first quarantine? No. That's not when it was first scheduled, was it? No. It pretty much lined up with that in my memory. It pretty much lined up with AIMA's nodding along. It was like, yeah, we'll record in March or something. And it was just like, actually, we're going to wait

and see what this is. And then it was like, this is bad. Yeah. We all forgot. We all got completely numb and we were traumatized and we forgot. You know. That is fucking.

That is wild. Yeah. The realization that this was that this was going to be a lot. My mom got the first shot of the vaccine. Hey, that's huge. That's huge. That's going to be a very happy release. Yeah.

Oh, for sure. But she's had some weird side effects. I saw her. Why? Because I saw her howling at the moon last night. Oh, you think she got she has lycanthropy? I think so. Like as the mark of the wolf.

Uh-huh. Was the Moderna was that a side effect of the Moderna one that you could. Yeah. There is some light. Some light wolf manning. That can happen. It's like,

it's like one to 2% of people. But you can, you can slightly so you're like the first 30 days. Yeah, you'll lean off the wolf. Oh, great. My mum's a werewolf, of course. Could 20 could 20 21 get any worse? My mum is a freaking werewolf.

Hey, man. I hate to say it in this way, but. But I think you got to write it up, Mitch. That's feeling really good. I think that's that's going to get quick. Yeah, that's a, that's a fucking sellable pilot right there. It would be a horny MTV show, I feel like.

It's like, like, like, like a four. Like, I feel like that's scream. I feel like every. Yes. I, I laugh because it's funny to think that an MTV show may not be horny.

Well, if there's going to be a non horny show, I'll give it to him. I'll give it to MTV. But, but scream is like a horny, right? Scream is now a horny show. Is that it? Is that the only example?

The only MTV programming I know of is ridiculousness, which they, they air in like 23 hour blocks. That's like, like almost the bulk of their daily programming, like 90% of their daily programming is ridiculousness reruns. And then they're just, I guess they, they'll show a random movie or some of their original series.

Rob Dierdrich must have some fucking nice residuals, huh? Jeez. That dude's swimming. There's no way. Yeah. He's also aging like a, like a, like a, like a turtle you'd find in Chinatown.

He's just like turning into, he's just like turning into a water turtle. Wow. Yeah. He looks, he looks good. He's, he's, he's a little bit,

he's in his mid 40s at least, right? Or close to 50, I would say. I see him being like one of those dudes who's like mysteriously 52. Yeah. I'm going to look it up right now. Do you guys want to, do you guys want to take a guess? Yeah.

I'm going to go 49. Okay. That's a great guess. 49 for Jacob. I'm going to go 46. 46. Mitch, you nailed it.

Wow. 46 on the dot. Look. People are going to now accuse me of being a huge Rob Dierdrich fan. And guess what? You're right. Yeah. I'm looking at this Wikipedia.

It says edited by Mike Mitchell. Every ridiculousness is broken down in his Wikipedia by me. God, imagine there's so many, they shot so many of those. It's like dough boys. What do you think about dough boys? Man, we've made,

we made, we made a lot of, we're coming up on 300 episodes. Aren't we? So many, yeah, so many episodes, so many hours.

We have been trying to get this show to, we've been trying to get this show to, this is a JRPG series to listen to this podcast. Some of my friends on this, some of my good friends, we're so bad at it. You mean like LinkedIn? No.

We had Dana on. Yeah. I know. I don't mean like Hollywood. There's a difference between them. Wasn't LD on the show? Think Ramanadi was on the show. Yeah.

Oh, all the Quincy friends have been on the show. Okay. And a lot of Quincy friends have been edited from the show. Can't say some of the stuff they say. Look, they were fine except for Chankton when he was drunk on stage that one time. Oh yeah.

That was a mess. We do that. We do this. Yeah. You do the show and it seems like you have, oh, we have so many episodes, but as far as getting people on,

it's, it is like you do one a week. Or you do one a week. Or you do one a week. You do one a week. You do one a week. You do one a week. You do one a week.

You do one a week. Or I guess in our case two a week. And it's like that's eight episodes a month. And those slots fill up fast with people you want to get on. There's just, there's more, there's more people you want to get on the show than there are guest slots. Yeah.

And Jacob, that exact same thing happened to you. Sorry. But now that you're here, you see it sucks. I'm happy to be here. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's an awful experience. Why did I wait so long, dude? Now, Jacob, now Jacob, you, you said that Wiger's going full vegetarian style.

You, you are not a vegetarian. Are you? Well, this is an interesting way to get into this thing. I have similar to you a little before the pandemic had been doing intermittent fasting. Oh, okay.

I, I slowly got rid of red meat from my diet. Wow. That's good. Yeah. So red meat is a treat for me at this point. But I, I haven't really had it.

I don't cook with it at home when I'm cooking. The only time I have it is like, if I'm seeing my parents and we get something and I just like, it's easy or whatever. But I haven't had red meat in a long time. Wow. And I was so excited to be eating, I'm a burger boy.

I'm from SoCal. Oh yeah. I feel like, I feel like this is the land of the burger. For sure. And I was so stoked to just sink my fucking teeth in. And it kind of reminded me last time I did, how did this get played with Nick?

And I'm like a former gamer. And Nick allowed me to kind of open up the wormhole and game a little bit and get my fix. And I got to say, Papa Nicky, you help me get my fix today, daddy. Cause I'm, Wow.

Absolutely insane. I was like, I'm eating it all. I'm going to eat it all. It's my excuse. Happy to be named. I got a question for you. Are you,

yeah, way to go, yeah, way to go. So have you, did you cut gaming out of your life for any particular reason, but was, why,

why are you a former gamer? It sounded like this is like a recovery thing. Well, I wouldn't say like I'm in recovery, but it is a thing. You know, there are things in life that you can do and you can do it casually and you got a handle on it.

And then there are things that you can do in life where you go a little harder than you need to, and it can get in the way of some things. And video games, was that for me for a long time? So I have a Nintendo Switch. I'm really excited for Pokemon Snap. Like I'll play a game that has a beginning,

middle, and an end. And that's kind of all I can do, or I'll just run away and shit myself and play World of Warcraft. You know. Yeah. The MM, I had a similar thing with Wow of just a,

it got me different time, a different type of Wow that we'll normally talk about on the show. I will usually have, I was playing that and I was like, fuck, I'm so addicted to this. And I got to Burning Crusade and I was just like, I just have to stop.

I just can't keep playing this game. And that was super early on in World of Warcraft's life spans, like fucking 16 years later or whatever. But that's basically where I kind of dipped out to was Burning Crusade. And I was like, I was failing high school. It was just that. Wow.

I was failing high school and like, I was hiding it from my parents. I was failing. I was like, I have to stop to get this together. Yeah. I just recently got a PS5. I was lucky enough to get a PS5. Congrats.

Very cool. And Wikes, talk about power. If Tim, the two man Taylor saw this thing, he'd go wild. He'd be going, he'd be embarking all over the place if he saw this thing. He, it is a,

it is, it is very cool. It's a cool system. But I have, last night I had a migraine and I, I fell asleep early, but then I woke up and I was like, I'll play something. And then I came to like close to five in the morning. It was, it was a nightmare. Wow.

What were you playing? I was playing Miles Morales, Spider-Man, Miles Morales. And I gotta say, here's the thing about Miles Morales. I like got to a mission last night. And it's like, this is like your last mission. So like, and I was like, wow, that's short. But maybe games should just be shorter. Maybe there should just be some shorter games.

It's, I think it's helpful. Nothing wrong with a great four to six hour experience. Or, you know, if you want to say eight to 10 hours, like that's great. You know, I, I'm, I'm playing God of war right now. And it's terrific. I missed it the first time around or just didn't, just fell off of it the first time around. But it's so, it's, it's, it's like a 30 hour game.

And I knew that going into it. And I like to do the side quests. So I'm like, I'm going to put like 40, 50 hours in this thing. That's a substantial chunk of time. Now, thankfully I have that right now. But if I was employable and like, you know, had a job beyond this bullshit, then I, I don't know where I'd find the time for it.

Yeah. It's, it's, it's that sort of thing of, and I get that way too. I like have to finish it. I just got to finish. Like once I'm on the game, I got to, I like, I have to, and so it will take over my life. You're speaking my language, Mitch. You got to finish.

You can't go to bed. You know, fucking loser. You gotta get there. Oh, 90%. No, let's get that 100% baby. That's, that is, I, that, and that isn't, that is an issue for me is that I have to, and I don't do that with any other part of my life,

which is the sad pathetic part is like, why don't I do that with anything else besides Miles Morales? Like helping a lost cat. That's what I do. I think especially now it's just so nice. It's not pathetic. It's just so nice to be somewhere else. I think it's just so nice to be somewhere else.

It's just so nice to just take a little vacation and you get to do it with your PS5. I don't think it's pathetic. Man, I would, I would, I would pull a Joey pants in the matrix. Let me, I'm going to actually, I'm going to, I'm going to enable you. Play more.

Yeah. I will. I mean, I got, I got, I got a ghost of Shushima. Is that how you say it? Wags. Yeah. I think it's, I've heard there, Tsushima or Tsushima.

I've heard it both ways. Tsushima. Okay. Yeah. We got, we got, we got bagged on because you said, uh, Totoro wrong. You said it, uh, I think you said it wrong the other day and I copied it.

I said Totoro. Yeah. Instead of Totoro. Totoro. Yeah. Tater Totoro. Tater Totoro. The, the roast was my neighbor Tater Totoro.

Tater. It should be Tater Totoro. Tater Totoro. Yes. It was, it was, yeah. It was tricky to say. Now Mitch, as, as, as a woman ever called you a Totoro in a sort of romantic sense.

As a, as a fellow, as a fellow thick King. There are definitely, it is funny when they're like, like, uh, I think that there are just women who, who are attracted to bears, like actual bears. I don't mean like, I don't mean like humans. I think that they like actual bears. They like bear. And so they love a bear like man, uh, which is a thing I find

embarrassing about myself is that I'm big and hairy and covered in honey. Mostly. Yeah. And the woman is thinking, oh, I wish he was Paddington. But hey, people got hots for Paddington. Paddington. It's true.

It's a hot bear. Yeah. Paddington is definitely, Paddington's no virgin likes. He's definitely, uh, Paddington is fucked is what I'm trying to say. You know Paddington. Fucks. You know he fucks. Why do you think he wears that fucking ring?

Hide in it. He's hiding it. Paddington's got swag. Why do wigs make such a disgusted face when I said, you know why he wears that brain coat? Cause I was trying to think of what you were. Like what? Like the fluids.

Why is the fluids? Yeah. Okay. That's what you were thinking. Yeah. I thought that's what it was. And I was like, that's a little gross. Um, and then that's what, that's what it.

In fact, that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what it, in fact, was.

That's what it was. Of course. I haven't seen Paddington too. I hear it's an all time great movie. Yeah. I got to watch it. I was nodding along. Natalie loves it.

I watched chunks of it and I was like, oh, this is great. I would love this movie, but I've got to just watch the whole thing at some point. Was Natalie seem it, did Natalie seem it all into Paddington during the film? Um, she did, uh, like afterwards asked me to put on a raincoat, which was weird. A little hat. Well, and then wanted me to serve her mom all aid. So was that empowering? Uh, yeah, I found it empowering.

Actually, it wasn't degrading or anything. I was into it. I feel like Natalie, since she's married to you is probably like, I feel like is looking more towards like dump trucks. So like something like Mad Max or something she'd be into. Like vehicles. Vehicles. Actual vehicles.

Heavy machinery. So, so Jacob, no. Red meat for me. That's a, that is a, this very episode. I brought something home and my mom commented on the amount of red meat in the sandwich. And I hadn't heard that in a while. She was like, red meat, very bad. Cause we'll, we'll do, we'll do a couple of nights of, uh, of, of beef over here.

And then we'll do like a chicken and then like, you know, like once a week we'll have some sort of like beef dish, not, but not often. Yeah. And, and it is, I mean, it is, it's for, for big. Guys, you got to watch out for the red meat. It's not, it's an, I think just in general, but it is my favorite. It's the best thing. It's the best there is.

I think it like, it wraps my brain in a way that is so satisfying. And so like you have reached a prime directive of living when I eat red meat. It's just like the signals are correct. And there's no question in my mind that I'm doing something wrong. However, I'm 300 pounds. And that sensation has gotten me there. You know what I mean? Right.

Yeah. But I miss, I miss it a lot. Like I think there's a little bit of like health issues and a little bit of like an environmental poll from my end that helps justify it more. The environmental side is tough. And then also it is just the impossible burger at all has, has, has made me be like, man, it would be great if there was just a world where you get those, your brain is still firing and you're, but you're, you're having that impossible meat or

something instead. But I think it's, it's, it's going to get closer to where it's going to hit that more. Cause like if I cook up an impossible burger, like I can make it in a way that I'm like, I feel like I'm getting my fix. For sure. Yes. Yeah.

100%. And I think we're like, what, probably five ways, excuse me, five years away from like synthetic beef. And I think that's going to be awesome. Yeah. That's the, the idea behind that is like they, it's like lab grown. It's like you're basically put just growing the meat without like a central nervous system, right?

Correct. Correct. That'd be amazing. Like a Petri dish, I think would be like the way, the best way I could describe it, like Petri dish food. Wow. I'm into it. Man.

I hope I never get a tour of one of those places because I, you know, I'm just going to go around slurping up those Petri dishes and eating everything in sight. Set the back years on their research. I think it'll be a thing in our lifetime. We see first world countries completely remove themselves from, from live meat. Yeah. I do want to say, I do think I like, I'm hopeful for that. I think it certainly won't be America.

Cause if we know anything, it'll turn into a fucking political signifier, like whether or not you eat like meat, whether or not you kill animals and, and eat them for sustenance. Like that already is. But then if it becomes, there becomes a movement towards eliminating that, then people are going to absolutely be like, like, like fuck no, I can't, I eat cows. I eat chickens. I don't want to eat cows, man. Yeah.

Exactly. I do wonder, I wonder if steak can ever, like a, like a big steak can ever be replaced in any way. I mean, I don't know. Possibly, you know what I mean? Like if they do grow it synthetically in the, and synthetically in the lab and, and I don't know, maybe it could happen, but. You know, it's going to be a, it's going to be scary.

We eliminate steak and then we're just plagued by Dracula's. Oh boy. Oh boy. God. You're right. I mean, I hate to say it. You're right. You can tell it's bad.

It's a huge issue. When our, when our guest is even like, oh God, I guess I'll fucking play around with this. I liked it. It was fun. It was fun. We got somewhere. Oh, you liked it. You liked it.

We'll be back with more no boys. Welcome back to dough boys. We're here with Jacob Isocki. Great. Discussing Wendy's. Yeah. I just, I just want to point out that there's now two breaks. There's now two breaks.

We'll, we'll, this will come out after we've all hopefully adjusted to the two breaks. But for our purposes, we have, for our purposes, this is the first record we've done where we've had two breaks, just chronologically. Can I just tell you right now off the bat? Don't think it's going to work. I don't like it. Well, this was a request from our network. I think it's going to be fine.

I think it's going to work out great. Well, your typical fashion bound down to the man. Yeah. That's what I do. I say to the man, thank you, sir. May I have another? They say jump. I say, how high?

Wow. How high shall I jump? Amir Blumenfeld, tell me. Wendy's was founded in Columbus, Ohio in 1969. Of course, Dave Thomas, a late great former, yes, former spokesperson named it for his beloved daughter, famed for its square patties and their over 6,000 Wendy's locations worldwide. Now, Jacob, before we began recording and a little bit, you tease this a little bit on the air.

You see, it seems like this was like kind of an, it seems like you have some fandom towards Wendy's, some enthusiasm towards being able to, to, to get a meal from here or meals from this particular chain. I went in hard. As I said, I'm a burger boy. I'm a beef king and I had, I went three times and it, and it maybe was for the pod and maybe it was for me and we don't really need to get into the nuance of that psychology. But let's just say it was for the pod and I did it for the pod and I was, I did have

this idea in the notion of my like, you know, Morgan Spurlock style podcast of eating everything on the menu and that was immediately foiled when, and this is rare for Wendy's, it was a physical person who's taking my order outside, which also feels weird for COVID. But as soon as I was like, Oh, I have to order multiple things in front of a human. I chickened out and was like, I'll just grab a bunch of stuff, not everything. But I went for it, man. And I feel awful because my body's not used to eating red meat, but the sensation was great.

And my tummy yesterday was a mess because I like, I woke up and immediately got the breakfast. I was like, God, try breakfast. Wendy's got to try breakfast. And so then I just kind of like rode out on Wendy's breakfast all day and then went back to Wendy's at night. And I'm really excited to just maybe not eat today. This might just be a, we're going to let the beef, we're going to let the beef lie.

Yeah. But I was stoked. I mean, you guys gave me a list of stuff and Wendy's, it was not a, it was not a question. I grew up eating fast food. I love fast food burgers. I think Wendy's was always top tier, but the least available, which I think puts it, which helps it maintain its top tier status where I grew up in the South Bay, close to Nick, I grew up in LaMita.

Our Wendy's was not close. You had to drive to Carson to go to Wendy's. Oh yeah. That's a little bit of a haul. Yeah. From in Long Beach, there was like one Wendy's, I believe. And it was a little bit, same thing, a little bit of a rare treat. We would not have, you'd have, you know, McDonald's, Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr.

were having a lot more frequently than a Wendy's, but always loved it. I will say, Mitch, I know Jacob ordered in person. I use the app. Did you mess around with the app? I didn't use the app. I went in order just over the speaker. I didn't, I went crazy. I mean, I went crazy, but not as crazy as I have been.

Like I felt like the order wasn't like an insane amount that they were like, this is fucked up. Like I think it was, it was, it was still big. It was like $35 or whatever. Right. But it was a. That sounds awesome. It was, it was, it was a, I'll tell you this.

I pulled up to the first window and this kid, Rob, who worked there, a nice kid, he asked if I was a reporter. He's, he's like, he was like, are you a reporter? And I said, kind of. And I said, I have a Pog. I tried to explain to him. I had a podcast. Yeah.

And I said, watch Good Morning America on Wednesday. That's what I said to him. Even though this is, this is now past. This is way in the past. Yes. But, uh, but, uh, he was, he was a very, very nice kid, but it might have been because I gave him a dough boys card that he asked that, but I don't know. Oh yeah.

You sometimes wear that, uh, that fedora that has, uh, like a press label in it. Yeah. Like just around casually. Except it's, it's coupons to Wendy's instead of. Right. Uh, yeah. No, he thought I was a reporter, which I thought. A different, very different experience, which I'll get into at the, the pickup window.

Interesting. Do you want me to tell you? Yeah. Let's get into it. Great. All right. I'll tell you everything I got. I'll go for it.

I'll go first. Jacob, excuse me. As I just segue into the story. Hey, well, I'd like to, maybe Nick can hedge bets. I wonder who got more near you. Um, it sounds like I'm, I'm thinking maybe Jacob got more just by virtue of taking multiple trips. Jacob, I will say that I would have gotten more.

But Mitch gets a lot. I get a lot, but the issue is I'm living with my mom and. I wouldn't have, if, if my mom had to see me eat this food, I would have ordered less. So I'm with you. That is that. That was the big issue is that she, she ate, she basically ate this with me. Um, I got myself the brand new jalapeno popper chicken sandwich meal. Nice.

Large with a Coke. This is spicy. Uh, I got it. Cause you can get it spicy or regular. It seems like the, the, that the default is, uh, spicy. So I went with the spicy. Then I got myself a classic chicken sandwich cause this is the new sandwich and I wanted to talk about it here.

I got myself a baconator, two paddy baconator and I got myself a small chili and he said, what do you want on that? Do you want sour cream and crackers? And I said, yeah. And he said, how about inside it? Do you want cheese and hot sauce and onions? And I said, yeah, just toss it all. So I got all that.

I got it with everything that it comes with. And then I got a six piece spicy chicken nuggets and with ranch. That was like, uh, that was the big thing. I was like, uh, with, with my sauce, just have to be ranch. And then, um, my mom wanted the, I think it's the apple pecan. I got to look at it now. Apple pecan salad, which has chicken on it. It just comes with chicken on to by default.

Why is, but I was thinking as I got it, I was like, this would be a good salad for why is to have this apple pecan salad. They only had it in the large. So we got the large, uh, met that young kid. It was a nice guy at the first window, Rob. Then at the second drive through window, Wags, I got Alfred hard. The guy there was, uh, got Alfred. I got Alfred big time.

I was like, I mean, like annoyingly was like, is there ranch in the bag? I mean, like, I didn't say it like that, but I was like, I was like, uh, is it, can I, can I get ranch? Like I like the off, I was like the character from office space trying to make sure that my ranch is in the bag. And the guy just kind of looked at me and nodded. Yes. I just was completely Alfred.

So scared. I like, uh, just like, he just had complete control over me. What was it because he like looked like, like he looked imposing or intimidating or was it just that because you felt so low status asking for the ranch? The guy was an alpha dog, Wags. Oh, he was just cool. I'm a beta buddy. I, I, I, uh, there was no, that, uh, beta buddy, beta buddy should be in the

airbud series. I think with a, I think with beta buddy and, uh, my mom is a werewolf. You got yourself just a fish that can play poker. The beta buddies go up to other dogs. I'd like to alpha dogs and like, do you want us to lick your asshole for you? I think you could alpha that guy back by just making him give you more ranch. I, I, I, I want more. I, but I, I, I, I drove off.

I mean, that's what I should have. I should have just said, can I get an extra ranch because I got home and there was no ranch, of course. And I was upset about it. I was upset about it. Look, I don't take it out on the, he also, I was wearing a mask. He might not have heard me. Uh, I was more my fear of the cool alpha guy that I got scared and drove off,

but I will say this. My mom luckily had a bottle of craft blue cheese. She had randomly botched and that never seems to happen. And the nuggets were saved cause I truly was like, so I'm just going to eat these nuggets. Fucking dry. This fucking sucks. Yeah.

That's tough with nuggets. It was, it was, it was a bummer, but she had the nugget. The nugget is a sauce companion. I don't think it's a standalone. It's 100%. I think you need to make sure, I think, I think, I mean, like, I think that there should be a compartment for sauce on nuggets just so that you know that you always got it in there.

Who gets nuggets without sauce? That's my question. Does anyone get nuggets? Yeah. Some freak. Fucking freak. If you're out there. Some low life.

Nosferatu asked freak. Fucking. Yeah. If you, if you like nuggets without any sort of sauce, if you like your nuggets dry, hashtag, I am a freak in our mentions. Oh boy. I mean, just to be clear, everyone who listens to the show is a freak, but this is your, particularly your freak in this, in this circumstance.

A freak freak. You're a freak's freak. I got to say this. We ate the nuggets and they were good as hell. And I'm happy I had that blue cheese. I do wish I had that ranch. I was a little upset. Blue cheese on a nugget.

That's interesting. I bet that's fun. It was, it was, it was fun. It was very, I mean, you know, for ranch, a lateral, some would say an upgrade, but I wanted that kind of like shitty ranch from Wendy's with my spicy nuggets, but they were still good. My mom said, Oh, they got some kick to it. I said, Ma, that's right.

They do got some kick to it. And then I bit into this jalapeno popper chicken sandwich, which also had some kick to it. Um, I, I always think that like when there's an, an alt for the spicy chicken sandwich or for like, actually just only for the spicy chicken sandwich. I don't think it's as good. I think the spicy chicken sandwich is a fantastic sandwich. We've said it a billion times.

It's one of our favorite sandwiches. Yeah. I don't, I don't like when there's like alterations to it. I like it just as it is with the lettuce, tomato and mayo. I think it's pretty perfect. But I will say I actually enjoyed the jalapeno popper chicken sandwich. I thought it was, I thought it was pretty damn good. Yeah.

Uh, I also got, is it, it's okay if I interject here. Oh, please do. Please. Yeah. I don't have to wait for my list or whatever, but yeah, I thought it was great. And it was a, it was a, um, like a instinct by, or, you know, like they got me with the photo. It was not a thing that I was going to get in my overall meal and I saw the promo.

I guess I'm a, I am a fast food promo sucker. You get a new item at Taco Bell or Del Taco. I'm trying it. And I thought it was a solid chicken sandwich. Like, and you know, I love sitting on the scorched porch and it was hot. Uh, it really, it, it tickled that heat itch. The scorched porch. I love that.

Man, that is great. Let's sit on the scorched porch. Yeah. Wow. Well, I'll say on the podcast is that I'm something of a heat seeker, but scorched porch, I feel like destroys that. The scorched porch is fucking home run. You couldn't sit on the scorched porch.

That dump truck ass would cave it in. All right. That ass too thick for the scorched porch. Uh, so there's cream cheese on this, on this thing. I mean, like, Really? I thought it was going to be a sandwich with jalapeno poppers on top. Yeah.

But instead they did some sort of, they did a deconstruction gastric, like some, uh, some pub, some pub thinking here and broke it down and put it on top of the sandwich. Yes. And it weirdly worked. The cheese sauce, which my mom took about it. My mom loved the cheese sauce. I thought the cheese sauce was great.

It's a lot. Wags, what, you use a word to, to describe this. Yes. It, uh, it, it was, it, maybe you would think that about this, but I thought it was pretty, uh, I thought it was pretty tasty. I agree with you that generally when it comes to the Wendy's chicken sandwich is spicy chicken in particular, less is more. And I had a variant, uh, what last year that was, I think it wasn't this one

because this one's new, but it had like bacon on it, had some other, some other elements, maybe like an avocado. And I was, I just had it. I was like, I wish I just had the regular one with the lettuce and tomato, but it's, it's nice to hear this version worked out. While we're talking jalapeno popper sandwiches, I should note that I got the jalapeno popper salad, which is another item they're offering right now. I'll read this, uh, this list of ingredients.

Lettuce blends, spicy crispy chicken breast, diced tomatoes, shredded pepper, jack cheese, applewood smoked bacon. And of course jalapenos all topped with a crispy jalapeno and cheddar crouton mix and jalapeno ranch. If you're reading this, you must like jalapenos. So yes, this is the one you should get. Promise. I made some substitutions.

I did no chicken, no bacon, and I added avocado because, uh, this year I'm, I'm eating vegetarian, no meat shall I eat. And I will say this had a good amount of spice to it, which sometimes doesn't work in a salad, but it worked in this salad. I mean, Mitch, you've had this observation that Wendy's has good salads. And I, and Natalie, Natalie said the same echoed you. Uh, independently. She said the same thing.

It's like Wendy's salads are like a cut above the other fast food salads. And definitely the case, like if you're, if you're looking for something marginally healthy or that you can convince yourself it's healthy, or at least healthier than a burger. I think that Wendy's salad is a good option. And this was good. I mean, I like the pepper jack cheese in there. I, it worked well without the chicken and without the bacon.

Yeah. I said, I said more than that. I said that Wendy's has the best fast food salads. It is probably unarguable. I mean, if you can, if you want to throw in places like your, you know, like your sweet grains and your Mendocino farms, that's a different category. Exactly.

Exactly. But I thought, I thought it was great. And I really liked that jalapeno ranch dressing. I thought it was, I thought it had a great zing to it. That salad sounds like a salad. You could potentially get like somewhere in Los Feliz that you pay $16 for. A hundred percent.

I feel like the, so this, this apple walnut salad that I got with my mom, she's brought this home on her own on many occasions. She got it for me as a treat for lunch one day. And I got to say this, just portion wise and everything, it was like 540 calories. Great. You're, you're the, the calorie wise, it's pretty good too. If you're, if you're getting 10 degrees, some of those other places,

you're sometimes eating a 700, 800, a thousand calorie salad in for a meal. Oh yeah. So, so, so I, I, I enjoy that the, the apple walnut salad. Yeah. And in the past with chicken, it's good. They only, yeah. Again, they only had the large and the large is not that, that huge.

But if you do that and you do yourself a baked potato, you got yourself a healthy lunch from Wendy's and that actually tastes good. And I, to me, like for other like drive through fast food places, it's hard to think of something that, that compares. I, I, I also got a baconator, the double, the, the double patty baconator, which I mentioned, but I, it was not a good baconator salad.

Oh man. I know, especially when you're eating like the, like you're, you're going in, you're eating a bunch of bacon and beef. This is the one that my mom was like, that's a lot of red meat. And it is, the baconator just feels unhealthy. It does, it feels like a Simpsons joke or whatever. Normally great. It's usually really, really great.

I've been one that day and, and, and I think I like that it's simple. It's just kind of like ketchup and mayo and bacon. And yeah, simple and, and, but for whatever reason, you know, like it just felt kind of like the burger, like it felt like kind of like the burgers had been on the grill for too long. It just was one of those situations. I do like the, the simplicity of the baconator cause I grew up

with like a meat, cheese and bun kid. Yeah. And it's great when a menu item has something where it's like, you're, you're actually, I don't have to tell you plain. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the jack in the box ultimate cheeseburger was the first one I remember that is that simple.

It's just like sauce of meat and cheese. And then they all, they ultimately had a bacon variant. Yeah. I mean, and it's great to not have to like worry if my burger is going to come plain. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah.

The simplicity of it is, it's huge. It's a big upside to it. I just little crusty on the meat though. Yeah. A little, a little crusty on the meat and it was just kind of like, I got like this dried out baconator that is not great. And then that's the sad part of it is like, oh, if this was like a junior, junior cheeseburger deluxe, it would have had

some stuff to kind of soften it up. It would have had some condiments and lettuce and tomato and probably would have been a little bit better. But you know, hey, can't, can't blame the sandwich for, for one, for one bad day. Cause everything else I had was pretty tasty. The classic chicken sandwich, which is, is Wendy's now attempt to kind of match Popeyes.

It's okay. Like it, like it is, it's, it's, you can tell that it's not as like a higher, like as on, as on, as high of a tier as the Popeyes chicken sandwich. My mom actually said that she liked it better than the Popeyes chicken sandwich. The Popeyes chicken sandwich she thought was too, she thinks the Popeyes chicken sandwich is too like fried too much going on,

I guess is what she was saying. But, and she liked the, the Wendy's one. It's good. It just is, it feels like kind of like, to me, it feels like it feels like they're trying to figure out what it is because it is kind of a little bit like the old one with lettuce and tomato and, and mayo, and then there's pickles on it. And I'm like, could it just be mayos and pickles?

I don't know. I mean, like it still tastes all right, but it is not as good as the Popeyes chicken sandwich. And I don't really need that. I think they have the best fast food chicken sandwich and the spicy chicken sandwich. That's my favorite. That's my favorite chicken sandwich and all the fast food.

I don't think they need to try to compare to these other places. It worries me actually. I don't like it. Everyone is trying to compete with that, you know, that Popeyes sandwich, which is an elevated Chick-fil-A sandwich. And so everyone's getting their own take on it. I mean, I, I've had that, that version from Wendy's as well. And it's just like, it's, it's, I don't know what they're,

I mean, I know what they're doing. I understand like the market, like research motivation behind this, but I, it's just they, they don't need to be doing this. Why? Yeah. That's why fast food places can't admit defeat where it's just sort of like Popeyes did a very good sandwich. Yeah.

Let them be the guys like. And you come up with something different. Trying to make a new double Western bacon cheeseburger. Yeah. Come up with a new thing. Oh man. That's so, fuck the double Western bacon cheese. You just gave me the most specific craving for that.

Shit. I want one too. And I can't fucking get it. Fed everyone likes. Sorry. Yeah. Overnight. Overnight.

I think the, yeah, I mean, that's like, that's what I'm comparing all burgers to, I think at this point in the fast food realm. I think, even though I think there are better burgers, I do think I'm comparing most things to the double, the double bacon, Wacka cheesy, if you will. Jacob, you, you may, you made a great point with the promos and that always happens to me with Taco Bell. And as an adult, it's the closest thing to like a new toy or

something. Yes. Yes. It really, it really scratches that itch of like, whoa, this is cool. This is fun. This is an adult version of getting like a new toy or a new toy coming out or like new fruit snacks or some shit like that.

Like it is, it is great. And Taco Bell was so good at, and we were been very mad at Taco Bell for, for kind of producing their menu and pulling that bullshit. And now they're going to do a chicken sandwich talking. I'm like, look, it's different because of Taco Bell. But yeah, stop, make it like you, you have your own stuff. That's great.

Keep doing your own weird stuff. And that's, that's what I think should be the thing for other places is like the, the, the chicken popper sandwich. That's great. Wendy's try that. Try some other stuff. Yeah. We tried it and we liked it.

And so like, try stuff like that. Don't, and you already have the best chicken sandwich. So what's the point? Just try something different. Try a new burger. Try, try those promos. Just keep pushing stuff. Cause that's kind of what Popeyes did.

And it just really worked. They went with a promo. They went with a new chicken sandwich and it really worked for them. So just keep trying different stuff. Um, after, after all this food, I had the fries and the drinks too. The fries were just okay. They were a little cool and wise, you know how I feel about it. Do you remember the old Wendy's fries?

Yeah. Can we talk about this for a moment? This is, this is, this is, this is on my list. This is. Yes. This is I. I thought about this a lot. I don't know why they, I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know why they've done. I don't get why they did it. I have a theory. If I may please. Yes. I vaguely remember them changing around the time there was hype about dipping a fry into a milkshake.

Oh, interesting. Now I'm not a food historian, but I think there is a, there might be some sort of tenant level convergence here where Wendy's the home of the frosty arguably one of the better milkshake options in the fast food world. They wanted to have a fry that was more befitting for the dunk. And they fucked up because the fry went from thin. It was a jack in the box style fry. I think is the closest thing I could describe to it.

And they went with this thick natural cut. And I think it's just, it dips better. That's my theory. Interesting. I buy it. I mean, it's, and you know, the frosty is a good dip in, you know, if you like that sweet and salty together, that's, that's a, what, what better to dip it in than a frosty, but see, see, see my Jacob, the only thing that I agree with you completely, the only thing

there were, I is in my mind, they were still fatty fries, but not hugely fatty, but like they were golden. They were all just golden and, and cooked perfectly. Like, like, uh, and there was no potato skin. Why add the potato skin? I don't get the potato skin. Yeah. I think regardless of the specific, regardless of the specifics, the thing we do know is that

the, the previous ones were better. Like we, we, we prefer the previous Wendy's. We prefer the previous ones were, were a better fry. And yeah, Jacob, I'm on board with it. I think that that could 100% be a thing of like, Hey, like, Hey, it's cause another thing that, and I'm going to get that to that. My wrap up is I hate, I hate the Wendy's Twitter, but like, Hey, it's cool. It's cool.

It's cool to dip the, dunk the fries in the, in the frosty or whatever. And, but you had, you had great fries. Like I've, there was no problem. No one ever had an issue with your fries. Burger King changed the fries and they fucked up too. They've got like, they've, they've, they've slowly come back around to Nick and I had them recently and they're not, they're okay. But, but it took a long time to get back to that place.

Sure. Yeah. And I'm like, what are you, what are you doing? You're like, you got to have faith in some of the stuff that you're like, you're these fast food institutions that have been around forever. Yes. Of course. Some of you are very evil, but you also have things that work.

And like, so the way that you're going to mix things up is change your fries. Like get the fuck out of here. Do you think it could have been like part, part like it was more healthy. Like it's a real potato. I think that that could be. I think that that is some stupid bullshit that they are thinking, but here's the deal is that to me, they don't taste more. They, they were like, they are, seems like greasier and soggy or now I don't, the fries,

the fries bum me out. And I wish that they would go back and they've probably been this way for like, what, eight years now or something. I think maybe 15. Yeah. It's a possibility it's been that long, but, but just fucking whack, truly whack. I do, I do not like the new fries. They should go back.

To the way they were. I saved, I saved my chili and they present good though. That's the problem. Yeah. They look great. They look, they, yeah, they look good. I mean, and I think they look good. They look like you're about to eat like a basket of islands fries or something.

Yes. And I think I think this island so much. You can get it if you want to. No, but I can't have the experience of chilling in an islands just like sitting at the bar at the islands, talking to the bartender about James Harden. Fucking. Eating cheese fries. Watching surf skate and snow on every TV baby.

Guys, the fucking best. Guys looking at his clock waiting for his shift to end. I got another six hours of this shit. Jesus Christ. I saved the chili in the salad. My, and my mom saved the salad for, for later. We, we had so, cause I was so stuffed from all this shit. The Coke was good.

The Coke was good. The Coke was good. The Coke was good. The Coke was good. The Coke was good. The Coke was good. The Coke was good. The Coke was good, by the way, but I was so stuffed from all this shit that I was like,

I can't do this. So I saved the chili. I left it out and then at dinner, I just nuked it for, is that weird to leave it out? I didn't want to put it in the fridge. I just kind of left it out for a few hours, which may be strange. I think it's fine. I think it has to, you know, whatever. I'm not a certified in food safety, but I do think that if it, if it's at room temp

for too long, it can be an issue. But I think if it's just for a couple hours and it was hot, you're probably okay. I don't want to put it hot into the fridge was the issue. But anyways, I put the sour cream in the fridge, of course. Around dinner time, she got our salad and I got out my chili and I nuked the chili for like a minute or so. Put in those crackers and the sour cream and it had the cheese and onion and hot sauce in it.

Wags has been a long time since I had the chili. It was fantastic. Truly fantastic. It was really, really, really good. Oh, and I had a strawberry lemonade. I'd never tried that before. And it's good. It's very sweet, but I appreciate that it's not like a minute made lemonade that it is

Wendy's own lemonade. And I, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. But the chili was, the chili was great. The chili was really, really good. Man, was that my bite of the night? It could have been. I really, I really, I really, because the baconator was a let down and the chicken sandwich is just okay.

And then I mean the pop, the chicken popper sandwiches up there with the chili, but I just, because that's all I had for dinner was just that little bowl of chili, the small chili, and then some of my mom's salad. And that salad was damn good too. And then, and so I had a whole day of Wendy's and, and, and they did pretty well for themselves while the fries aside, they still had a good performance. A whole day of Wendy's is like what a nine year old gets for like a perfect report card. And even the child lunch and dinner.

The kid at the end of the day would be like, I don't want it. It would be like a lot less than learn. Jacob, I want to give you some, some runway to talk about your order. What did you get at the Wendy's? Great. Cool. So we'll start with what I got on the first run through. I, I got a, I tried, this was a promo item, the single pretzel bacon hamburger.

By the way, just like, just like the drive through guy, Jacob just alphad me with his with by saying, I'll start with what I got in the first order. I'm a little beta buddy again. Sorry dude. Don't mean to, I don't mean to cook your Wendy's order, but. So yeah, I got the single pretzel bacon pub burger, which I think was, I think not to steal a phrase from Nick, but it was a bit ungepoche. The pretzel bun was very good and gave you that great pretzel flavor.

I wasn't too salty, wasn't too tough, but they have like a honey mustard and a cheese sauce and some, another sauce. And I was just like, give me one sauce, give me one sauce. Let me taste the, the burger. I got a combo with that with the Dr. Pepper. Nice to have a soda, haven't had a soda in a long time. Hell yeah. We talked about the spicy jalapeno popper sandwich, which I thought was, was very solid. What did you do for your soda?

I got a Dr. Pepper, which was just lifeblood for me as a child. I got the small chocolate frosty dip that in the fries. I mean, the frosty is, it's its own thing. It's not a milkshake. It's not ice cream. It's, it's top tier sweet treat in my mind. It's great. I got a chili cheese potato and a chocolate chunk cookie, which they forgot and made me, which is, which I went back and inadvertently ended up ordering more.

So when I went back to get my cookie, I said, I'll get a couple more things for the boys so I can talk about it. I got a, now I thought this was fun. I got a junior cheeseburger deluxe with everything. And then I got a junior cheeseburger plane. Oh wow. And I wanted to play the game of like, as a meat, cheese and bun boy, let me try a burger with all the stuff that I don't really like on it. And guess what? I don't like burgers with shit on it.

Wow. I thought it was fresh produce, but I didn't like the tomato flavor. I could deal with the mayo. I can deal with the lettuce, but the tomato just like really threw me off the plane. Cheeseburger multibene. The shit slaps the flavors in the patty and they got a good patty at Wendy's. Can I clarify? How plain we talking?

No sauce? Just meat, cheese and bread? Yep. Meat, cheese and the bun. Wow. Yeah. And I thought that was a simple burger. Jacob, I'm with you.

I do like the junior cheeseburger deluxe, but I also sometimes you're in the mood for just that plain cheeseburger with just ketchup and mustard and pickles or whatever. But Wendy's does a lot of the times I'll do like a Dave single or Dave's double or I'll do the junior cheeseburger deluxe. And I'm like, damn, their burgers are really good. Wendy's burgers are, I always just think about it for the spices you can say much, but the burgers are fantastic. Why? They're great. I feel like they're, they don't get enough props because they're still. Do they still run on the fresh never frozen moniker?

Yeah, I think so. I think it shows. I think, I think when you're talking fast food, like the step below Wendy's would be like a Carl's level of meat and their meat has gone down quality wise substantially over the past decade. Yeah. I think you're getting some really, really good quality meat at Wendy's. I agree. Jacob, what were those dipping sauces you want?

You might just tell us again. Yeah, I went with the barbecue, the sweet and sour and I tried a honey mustard. And that those were for the spicy nugs, correct? Correct. Did you get yours? I, they, I got them and they were, they were decent nugs. You could tell that they were like maybe a little left around on the heating side of things and not a flash fry, but they did the job.

The heat, there's no heat in that level of nugget. It's just seasoning. There's no heat. It is just more seasoning in my mind. Right. But I, I really liked the barbecue sauce. It was a kind of a Casey masterpiece vibe with a little more tang. The sweet and sour was like a sleeper.

I think a total snooze fest. Just kind of boring and like a little bit of like an orange marmalade thing. And it was just like, give me that Polynesian. Give me that, that like dark red, gross fructose. And the honey mustard, I think Carl's Jr. takes the honey mustard award by far and it was just a little, it was just too mustardy. I want a little more of that sweet, uh, honey side.

I get you. I think my out of all of that stuff, my favorite bite, believe it or not was the chili cheese potato. Wow. I ate the entire fucking baked potato and I was full, but it was good. The, the chili by itself is a little sweet for me, but then you put a little bit of hot sauce and some butter and then the salt from the cheese and like the, the way that the potato soaks it all up.

It was an incredible baked potato. That's, see this, this, you can, you can only get this at Wendy's. Where else can you get something like that? Where else? I mean, I'll cook a baked potato at home and it was, it was as good as a home baked potato. That's fantastic. While we're talking potatoes, because you both had the point and you're correct that

the Wendy's fries are a little disappointing, but yes, the presence of the baked potato and the chili in the menu, which you can substitute for the fries in your combo. To me, like they, that's, that, that's a, that's a plot. That's in the plus column for Wendy's and that more than outweighs whatever you want fries. And I also will say that my favorite thing was the baked potato I got. I got a cheese baked potato, which is they put, they have put shredded cheddar on it and they also put a cheese sauce on top of it.

So it's like cheese two ways on top of this big potato. The potato was really well baked. I ate the inside, ate the skin, ate the whole damn thing. Cheese three ways with your cheesy ass eating that shit. It's a delicious thing. It's so good. That, that, that baked potato was delicious. The cheese sauce wasn't too much, Nick.

Well, I didn't think so. I liked it. And I, and since that didn't have sour cream, it was like, honestly, the cheese sauce and not eating meat made it feel like more of an entree. It made it feel like more of a main. Oh, fun. I think of it. I think it was just like a regular baked potato.

It would feel a little bit like, you know, I don't know. It'd feel like I was having a bunch of sides for lunch. Um, but Natalie said there was a little bit of sweetness in the creamy cheese sauce, which I did not detect, but, but overall, I really, really enjoyed it. I thought it was, I thought it was delicious. I'm sorry, but please continue with your order. Great. And then we, it's breakfast.

We're at the next day. We've moved forward. Wow. And I wanted to just simply try. A very thorough review. Doing a better job than the host of the show. And remember this was not for me. This was for the podcast.

This was not for me. I'm not trying to binge eat. I'm not trying to fall into bad habits. This is for the pod. I wanted to try the breakfast and I essentially just tried every bun they have with a different combo of things. So I got the honey butter chicken biscuit. It's a good biscuit.

It's a very, very solid biscuit. I don't think it's better than Carl's. It's better than McDonald's, I think. Um, but the honey butter with the chicken, you're getting a good chicken patty. Nice breakfast sandwich. Um, then I got the, uh, a sausage on the regular roll. It's kind of a brioche roll. I thought it was tough.

I thought it was kind of just boring. A round egg, square sausage patty, pretty run-of-the-mill. Then I got a bacon croissant. The croissant was solid. It was a nice, soft croissant and a good coffee for breakfast. A nice, somebody did a good job paying attention. But it brought me to this. The seasoned potatoes.

Why is this a breakfast potato? Because it's not. It's a mojo. It's a wedge. It's like what you'd get at the supermarket when you get a bucket of chicken. It's not a breakfast potato. Am I, am I crazy? You're not.

And I think, I believe Mitch, this came up, uh, when, when we just, when we reviewed Wendy's breakfast with the sloppy boys, that it's just an odd side. It's, it's not like, even like a taut would feel more breakfast-y than what this is. I agree with you. I can't wrap my, my head around it. Um, but I enjoyed, I enjoyed their breakfast. I don't think I would go out of my way to get their breakfast again.

I think there's places that are a little more established that are, are doing it. But if you're, if you're, you know, hungry and you're on the five and there's a Wendy's and it's breakfast time, hit it, hit it up. Um, I feel like I could see myself grabbing a frostachino and one of the sandwich, like the best, maybe the best chicken sandwich or like the, or the, the baconator breakfast, baconator, but it does have that sort of thing of like, Oh, it's a heavy, the way that Burger King breakfast used to feel very heavy. And he, and, and just McDonald's just has it down so right with the egg McMuffin

where it's just like, Just light enough, but you're still sustained. When I go to, when I get Burger King, it's heavy because you're usually getting like a two for four croissant, which or something. And it's just like, it's a belly bomb, bro. Yeah. And Wendy's kind of has that thing going for two. Like, uh, I guess maybe some of the more simple things there would, would,

would be better to try, which I think, I don't know if I even did anything more simple, just like a sausage biscuit or whatever. But yeah. Um, but I don't know. I, I'm not going to ding. I'm not going to really ding them. I have one last bit. This is what I got the after breakfast.

Wow. I went back. Wow. I thought, I thought that that was it. This is this rule. This is like Majora's mask. Um, I, I was sort of thinking, I was like, I think I missed like, I should hit the staples of Wendy's.

And I went back and I got a spicy chicken sandwich. Yep. And I got a baconator. I got a son of the baconator being a little modest here. And I tried a tropical berry lemonade and got another frosty for fun. Um, the spicy chicken sandwich I did with just pickle. It's an incredible sandwich. It's a great sandwich.

Uh, the chicken on the patty shreds as opposed to it feels like actual chicken put together in a patty as opposed to minced chicken pressed into a patty. I'll be it probably the same, but the way it tears tricks my mind. It's got a good spice to it. It's got a good bun. The son of the baconator probably runner up for my second favorite thing that I had. Uh, it completely scratched the burger itch.

I wish I got a big one. I wish I got a triple. Um, I wish I got four more. The baconator is a great, a great sandwich. The bacon was crispy. Um, damn drops would have been proud of the bacon's crisp level. Uh, and the tropical berry lemonade, I think was probably the worst thing I had at Wendy's.

It was way too sweet. And I wish I just, they didn't have the strawberry. So I went back with the tropical berry. It was too sweet. It was too much. Wish I had a Dr. Pepper. It is fair. It's very sweet.

We are on the same page here because I got. But the strawberry, this, I liked the strawberry. I think the tropical one might be a little bit more, but why? Cause what was your experience with it? Oh, I was going to say, I got, I also got the tropical berry lemonade and had the same reaction of like, I had like an eighth of it. I had, I had so little of this drink cause it was just so overpoweringly sweet and like syrupy.

Uh, I, and I didn't get a lot of berry from it. I just got like a weird, like sweet citrus. Nor tropical. Yeah. It's very, very odd. Just, just, it didn't really work. I had, yeah, I dumped out most of that one. Yeah.

It was very confused and a complete misguided beverage. Yeah. Totally agree. Well, we should get to our final thoughts on Wendy's. Yes. So, uh, Jacob, uh, here's what we've already thoroughly talked through your order. Uh, but if you have any closing remarks, feel free to add them now and then end by giving it a score, uh, from zero to five forks.

You are a guest. We'll begin with you. Well, first of all, I'd like to take a moment and say thank you so much for this opportunity to eat beef and feel engorged and, uh, and not feel morally bad for participating in a beef hang. So thank you for the beef hang were beef buds. I had a great time at Wendy's. I really have no complaints.

I don't think they should be having their workers outside, uh, taking orders. And I'm a little cheesed that they forgot my cookie. Um, but everything I ate was good. Nothing was bad. Uh, everything at least hit a level of neutrality that made me go, I would eat here again. Um, everybody was nice inside. They gave me the receipts that I needed. I'm going to go ahead and give it a strong 4.75 forks.

Wow. Four forks three times. I think there's a little bit of room with the weak breakfast that I can't give it the full five. Um, but I also think when I think of other fast food restaurants, a majority of them are not even hitting four or five. So, so yeah, a great time at Wendy's, uh, it'll be a while until I have another burger, but I'm glad I got to sail down the beef road.

Wow. All right. Mr. Slice, what do you think? Well, well, I loved my dad. He was, he was my best friend. Um, and I wouldn't ever consider being the son of anyone else, but I would maybe consider being the son of the Baconator because that is a damn good burger. Uh, and look, you know, I love Wendy's.

I'm a fan of Wendy's. Um, but I think, I think that they got to, I think they got to change their fries back. Uh, I think Jacob's right that maybe they got to, they got to just set their breakfast and maybe just go with kind of some light classics and their breakfast and kind of put those on display. Even though I love the, I love that they have a bacon, a breakfast Baconator and stuff like that. I think keep the couple of fun things and then, and maybe offer some lighter fare, which

maybe they do and maybe have to explore that more. Um, I, I think that there's two things with Wendy's where I had almost considered giving it 4.5 forks, which is the snarky Twitter and the fries changed both of them, changed the snark. Cause look, it's embarrassing with the snark cause you're going to have to apologize for something at some point, which has already happened multiple times. And the other thing is, is those fries just were so much better back in the day. Just bring them back.

But why? I have a word to describe Wendy's. Um, where it kind of just feels like family. It feels like home to me. So it's a mishpocha, mishpocha, mishpocha. Yeah, that's right. Mishpocha. And Wendy's has a little bit of mishpocha going on.

When you hear your mishpocha. And, uh, yeah, that's right. Wags. I got myself a Yiddish saying you piece of shit. Mishpocha. That is, that describes Wendy's. I got that feeling from it. Yeah.

Did Evan Susser help me pronounce this word? Yes. Did I still pronounce it very bad? Yes. But mishpocha is how I feel about Wendy's. Wow. And I got to go five forks once again. I, like, look, this trip, it didn't, it, there were things that I still loved about this trip

and I, and I didn't do my go with my classics. And I think that there's some things that Wendy's needs to change, but they're not pulling full Taco Bell on us. You know what I mean? They're not, they're not, they're not cutting, but they're not changing the spicy chicken sandwich, right? Which, which, uh, they changed the classic chicken sandwich, which honestly scary sign.

So they keep going in that direction. Maybe I'll pull it back. Maybe I'll pull back to, you know what, I will even today. 4.75. I'm in the hand holding club with our guest. Wow. Well, hand holding club and beef buddies. Um, I think it's great that both of the,

both Gentile hosts of the dough boys now have their own Yiddish phrase. Mishpocha. Feels good. Feels right. I think it's very smart. Smart 2021 move. Network loves it. The jalapeno popper salad.

Let me take a step back. So I'm eating vegetarian at Wendy's. And the big thing we haven't addressed is that Wendy's does not have a beyond burger and impossible burger. They don't have a fake meat option. It feels odd. It's probably, it's probably the square thing. They, maybe that's it.

Maybe the square form factor is an issue. Maybe they can't, maybe they need to specifically source like a, a square beyond patty and they, they gotta, they gotta work that deal out. Step up your game impossible. Make that square patty. I would love a square impossible from four Wendy's. Hopefully it's coming in the future, but I will say, so that's a big liability. They don't have a fake meat.

They don't have the impossible whopper, which is a, a home run of a vegetarian option at Burger King. BK is back. Like we like to say the, but even that, even given that liability, I still think this is a really good option for a vegetarian and, and the app is really good. The app, it makes it very easy to customize your items. There's a little dance and frosty that you get to see who's got a cute little smile. It's, it's, it's very cute.

And so the app is great for, for emitting proteins and substituting, you know, veggie options, if you want to do that. I think even if you're vegan, you could probably make a lot of these things work for you through the app. I think you get yourself at one of their big salads and a baked potato and you got yourself a great lunch. I think that's, I think honestly, I've thought of these in terms of, I've thought of these in terms of, of, okay, I'm at work and work is going to this place

for lunch. And what would I get if I can't eat meat? And I'd be very excited to go to Wendy's because I'd be like, yeah, I could get myself a good tasty salad and I could get myself a baked potato and I'd be set. So I'm going to say, I'm going to be in the hand holding club with you guys. I think absolutely this, Wendy's, even for a vegetarian, this is a, this is an elite fast food chain. I'm going to say 4.75 forks, four forks, three times.

I love this. We are in the hand holding club, we are beef buddies and Wendy's is in the Golden Plate Club where it belongs. We'll be right back. Congratulations Wendy's. Congrats to Wendy. Welcome back to Doughboys. We're here with Jacob Weisacki and it's time for a segment.

We've got a set of fast food jingles and Mitch and Jacob have to guess what year they're from. Wow. It's another edition of Jingle All The Way spelled W-H-E-Y. So here's how this will work. Emma will play each jingle and then you will each guess what year it came out. Whoever gets closest without going over gets a point. Price is right style. And then there's also the art and marine rule.

If you get the year on the dot, like Mitch did earlier with Rob Deirdeck's birthday, you get two points. Wow. You get an additional point. So one point for getting closest and an additional point if you get it exact. And the theme for this edition of Jingle All The Way is combined by the drop king, Robert Bresinger, is Diet Coke. Wow.

Diet Coke. Okay. Now Mitch, I know you're a big Diet Coke drinker. Jacob, do you mess around with the diet drinks? I don't. I'm not a big soda guy much anymore, but Diet Coke was the, there was two sodas in the home growing up and my parents drink different sodas. Diet Coke for mom and squirt for dad.

Wow. I love it. Wow. Squirt's my favorite soda. Eileen Squirt. Diet Coke was one of those things that was always just like, mom, can you please stop drinking that? Like this will, this is going to affect your health.

Like please can we quit the DC? Yeah. That is something I, I should just be doing spin drifts, which I have in the house, but like every day I drink one, at least one aspartame-y drink, which is just not, like a, like a, it's orange dries right now, which Emma knows diet orange dries, but I, it's usually a Diet Coke one or two a day and it's just not. They're so good. They're so good though.

Like they taste good. They're the bubbly. It's, it's homie. I get it. It's tough. Yeah. It's, it does just feel like something that's going to make you sick. I had to cut them out.

Um, and I, you know, but I used to, in my early twenties, like first off, I used to, I was drinking just like full sugar sodas. I was drinking like four to six a day and then I was like, I got to stop doing this. I was having to do an equivalent number of diet sodas. And then I was like, this has got to be bad for me because I wasn't feeling any better. I was maybe losing weight, maybe, but I wasn't feeling any better. And so yeah, I was, I was always Diet Dr Pepper or Diet Coke, but yeah, diet drinks are just, I, I now I just need something with a little bit of effervescence.

If I get a, if I get like a Pellegrino, that's great. But you mentioned squirt and boy, squirt is delightful, especially. I like to get the little tequila in there, have myself a polo. Yeah. I mean, squirt is, it's even a ranch water with squirt. I think you can get away with, you know, it's, it's tough to find these days. Um, I think even some major, like, or, you know, like a Vons, you might not even find squirt at some Vons, like it's, it's my favorite.

It's the best. And if you can get it in the glass bottle, oh, baby, come down, baby, come on, baby. Come on, baby. All right. Let's, let's get into it. Come on, baby. Yeah. Come on, baby.

Let's get into jingle all the way. All right. Our segment. So I guess. Let's do this. Emma is going to be sharing. Let's do this stupid bullshit that our Robert Persinger spends hours on. We love Robert.

Robert has compiled these videos and Emma has prepared them for your perusal and for our listeners listening. Uh, let's, uh, let's go ahead and play this first one. Here we go. You know what's new? Diet Coke. And you're going to drink it just for the taste of it. Introducing Diet Coke.

Oh. So all right. Oh, some weird video after that too. I liked it. Some local news thing. Yeah. They're breaking news about the Menendez murders. This is, uh, this is interesting.

This is. Yeah. For sure. Before my time. Yes. And this, this seems to be that when, when Diet Coke was introduced, also it was weird. The newscaster was implying that the Menendez brothers were innocent. Yeah.

Yeah. Using false flag a lot. So, uh, uh, Jacob. Uh, you'll go first for this first one. And, uh, yes, I will say that this is Mitch. You were right. This is the introduction of, of Diet Coke. The spot is called introducing Diet Coke.

And also this will be a hint for later on. This is the earliest date of any of these because it's the first Diet Coke. And you can probably infer that. But Jacob, what year do you think this spot first aired in? I'm going to go 86. Oh, 1986. I was thinking the exact same year. My issue is that I don't, I think that it doesn't seem like 85 seems just from

the look of the video, it seems a little later. So I, I hate to do this to go the year after because this is fair. We're playing a game, baby. This is the price is right. Bullshit though, but I got to go 87. But honestly, in my mind, I was, I mean, it's fucked up, but 86, 87, 88. Like that's what I was thinking in the range. But who knows?

Well, I think we should get rid of the, the before rule. I think maybe it should be a thing where you get a point if you are closer to the before, but you just want it to be whoever's closest. I mean, I don't know. What do you, like, doesn't that feel more like maybe it should be a thing of like, if you go over, there's like a three year window or a five year window, because when you snipe like this, it's kind of fucked up. I could, I could maybe make this a little easier and just say like,

I'm not a competitive dude. You know what? That works. All right. 87. 87 it is. And Mitch, you don't, you don't want to change the rule. You want to keep the rule as is or you want to change it?

Ooh, this is, now it makes me feel like it's earlier. So now I feel like I should change my answer to 85 or something. No, you're locked in at 87. Okay. Um, no, we don't, we don't have to do that because you can do it to me on the next one. If you change the rule, Jacob would have gotten it because this actually came out in 1983. Whoa.

Yeah. You both overshot it. I'm going to say good video quality. It seems truly later than it, but that makes sense in my mind. I was like, Diet Coke is old. I know it's old. Yeah. But that video just looked, it didn't look like early eighties.

It looked kind of like a late eighties video. Didn't it? I mean, it had, I think it was just a high quality video. High quality video. Good production value from Coca-Cola. 1983. All right, Emma, let's play the next video. This is the next commercial.

Oh man. A lot of babes in that ad. A lot of bikini babes. I gotta tell ya, I'm horny as hell right now. Better put on a raincoat. Another thing I'll say, the B-roll was so like, the B-roll was so of its time with like the, you know, like there's the fighter jet, there's the space shuttle taking off,

there's the aviators, there's the guy putting on the aviators, there's like the extreme skiing and the extreme like windsurfing. It's funny because this seems older than the last commercial to me even though it is, it's very 80s, but it feels, maybe it was just a quality thing, but this is more in, now this is more in the area of what we were guessing last time. And this is tough because I'm guessing first here. Yes.

And I think I'm gonna get locked right back into 87 wigs. Also 87. I think 87, like, I mean, there's a chance it's 88 and there's a chance Jacobs is gonna get two points right now and it's gonna 88, but 87, 88, 89. I mean 90 is 90s too late, right? I don't know, it's tricky, it's so tricky with all these things because like the blend over from the 80s into the 90s is so hard to tell.

Surely 90s still, and then once you're in the 90s, you know when you're in the 90s, but like 91 and 92 are hard to tell. It's like that the late 90s into 2000s divide is similar. Yeah. It's just like there's not like a hard break. All right, Jacob, Mitch Gaest, guest 87. What year do you think this ad came out in? I think we have moved beyond the 80s simply based on the music.

I'm hearing like a Casio Korg sort of thing that just didn't exist until the 90s. Happy to be wrong. This gave me like Mighty Morphin Power Rangers vibes. Like the extreme sports aspect. I'm gonna go 93. Wow. 1993.

The bikini too. There's something about that bikini that just felt a little... Well, again, you both overshot it. This one came out in... No way. The Orwell year. 1984. 1984.

Wow. That's tricky. Fuck. I think a big part of... Drop King. A big cue there. A big cue there for me is just the presence of the space shuttle because it's like that's when Americans had space shuttle fever,

pre-challenger disaster. That's when I was like, oh, this is a symbol of American excellence. Well, guess what? It's back with the Space Force, baby. That's right. Man. President Trump's Space Force, which we're keeping around. We still say President Trump on the dough boys.

Oh, you guys do. I have to go. Delete this whole thing. And we say future President Cruz, right? I'm slowly learning that I don't... Because I was not born in the 80s, 1990 baby here, millennial trash speaking, tuning in, but I guess anything from the 80s is just the 90s to me.

The way that I was given the data. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Because you were an adult at this point when you were seeing this commercial. It was born in 1980.

You could have been on one of those spaceships if you wanted to be. That was a dream. When I say future President Cruz, I mean Tom Cruz, baby. Hell yeah. Could do a lot worse. Also, I hope everyone is okay in Texas. What a fucked up, terrible couple of weeks it's been here. Yeah.

Blessings and good vibes today. This is way old and dated, but I hope everything now at this point is better. I hope so. Obviously, I hope so too. I will also say, Mitch, that I think you could just sort of send good vibes and well wishes to anywhere in America at any time. Because no doubt some crisis is currently occurring in this fucking dystopia we live in.

This capitalist hellscape. No, you're right. With a completely broken public sector that's incapable of providing any services for anyone. You can just kind of say, hey, just sending good vibes to America. Okay. Good luck surviving. All right, here it is. In this fucking libertopia.

I hope everyone is okay in the current crisis that is happening, which has been a... We'll play that as a pre-roll for every Dough Boys episode. Which there's been one all year, but then now I'm sure there's some other one now. But anyways, yeah, that 84 makes sense because it felt like I said, it felt older than the other one. Maybe the premier video felt like it was a couple of years later or something, but... Well, I'm mad. I'm mad at myself and I know I said I wasn't competitive, but I'm pretty fucking...

No, it's... Jake, let me just tell you right off the bat. The only thing that will come with this is you'll just be upset. That's what comes from this game. There's nothing else. There's no good that comes from it. You're just going to be upset. That's what comes with the Dough Boys guest appearance.

Yes. All right, let's play number three, Emma. Okay. Wow. Is that Dean Cain? It is, in fact, Dean Cain that you're seeing as the final image of that commercial. A young Dean Cain and the vocals were by Michael McDonald. Yeah, I could tell.

That was Michael McDonald. I couldn't tell if it was like a ripoff and they're like, we want to make this sound like McDonald or if it was. No, that Coke has the money to get the real guy. Fucking Dean Cain is a right wing. He's like a MAGA man now, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Superman. Now MAGA man. Piece of shit. Not my Superman. This one had like weird... This one had like some weird editing, like some bubble cross fades. Also had the... Man, I have no idea.

Michael McDonald, like Yacht Rock. Yeah, they're definitely some clues there in the visuals. But yeah, Yacht Rock definitely an element. Jacob, do you want to take a stab at what year that came out in? 1991. 1991. Damn. 1991.

I think it's the 90s. It's probably like fucking 85, but now I'm going to say 91. So the two years I was going to say, no, I think you maybe are perfectly on it with 1991. So here's what I can do. I'm going to lose a point. Either I go 90, 1990 or 1992 and I get it exactly right. Or Jacob already has it right.

I guess I got to go... I guess I got to go 1992 just for game reasons. But I think that... I think Jacob might have it exactly right. Or it's going to be 1990. I'll be pissed. You know what? I'm going to risk it for the two points.

1990. I'm locked in. Ooh. 1990. Mitch, ultimately it was moot because Jacob did get it on the dot. Yes, I knew it. It gets two points for 1991. I knew it.

Jacob, I was going to say 91. Fuck. Well, dang. You know, it feels good to win. I won, right? Well, there's one more. There's one more. And we'll see.

This will determine if you win outright or if Spoonman can tie you. Emma, let's play. Let's skip ahead. Let's play the spot labeled just one. There's just one. And there's no mistake in it all. Hello, Joe. What do you know?

All right, let's sample a bottle. I'm going to make it two, one for you and one for me. So, sort of see a- Hey, good morning, America. Good morning, America slug. So, we see that kind of a preview of where everything was headed. This was an early ad that used some CG to revive some dead legends. Humphrey Bogart, James Cagney and Louis Armstrong, all cavorting, all hawking, diet coke in this

ad, and then well after their deaths. And also Elton John, a very alive Elton John, is singing the song. Who were the actors that were included in there? Can you tell me? Humphrey Bogart, James Cagney and Louis Armstrong. Cagney. Yeah. I have one question.

Yes. Is this 1995 or is it 1996? That's the only questions I have. And I'm going to go, shit. I'm going to go 1995. 1995. All right, Jacob, what do you think? Part of me is thinking, would you be tricky and go back in time?

Would you be tricky? Possibility. I'm just going to go, for game sense, I'm going to go 1990. Because that gives me a pretty big spread, right? It does. You got the five years. Yeah. That gives you a big spread and the victory.

Wow. You get one point. That came out also in 1991. The same year they had both Michael McDonald, Dean Cain paired up and an additional spot with Elton John and a trio of dead legends. You know, the Neutrus, whatever, the Neutrus Suite or whatever the fuck it was. Yes. That threw me.

That was the thing that made me think it was earlier. But I can't believe that that was the same year. The same? Yeah. The same year. This one is, knowing the years going in, I was a little less thrown, but it does feel a little all over the place of just like they none of these feel like they line up with what our memory of these years has no memory of these years.

That's wild. Yeah. Well, it feels good to win and I love winning. And I think you feel awesome. You know what? I couldn't have lost to a better sport and a great guest. It was it was it was worth the L. I'll take the L.

Thank you so much. Damn. I really got my ass kicked. I usually feel pretty good about these things and this one. Damn. I just it fucked me up likes. This was a challenging one. A challenging edition of Jingle All the Way spelled W-H-E-Y just like a restaurant value feedback.

Let's open up the feedback and we have a voicemail today. Why W-H-E-Y? Why not way? W-E-I W-E-I-G-H. Why not way? It was W-E-I-G-H originally. And then I told you to change it. I think you told me.

I think it was a guest idea. Oh, it was a guest. Yeah, someone told us we should change it and we took it. So you're calling a guest stupid. Yeah. Every guest up to the guest today sucks shit. Hey, happy to really make the cutoff feels very advantageous and good timing. I'll take it.

Sure. They're all trash, dude. All right. Let's play this voicemail, Emma. All right. Hello, boys. This is Joseph from Madison, Wisconsin. My question for y'all is what local or area promotions happen when like the Lakers or

the Clippers win a basketball game? Here the bucks have like a promotion with Wendy's where you get a small frosty. I'm sure that's universal. I feel awful for the workers who'd have to deal with that influx. Also here for the growers in Milwaukee, there's one with George Webbs where you can get five burgers for $5 or something like that. Though those aren't anywhere near me in Madison. Anyways, take care.

Have a good one. Chow. Wow. Mitch, I know you love. Chow. I like it. I like the chow. Mitch, I know you load the bucks as a fan of the Celtics.

They're Eastern Conference rivals, but that sounds pretty. I mean, if you could get a free frosty at a game, I mean, that's pretty great. Well, the Celtics really have no rival right now. It's been a tough year for the Celtics. Their rival is internal turmoil and injury. Yeah. Yeah. I hope Kemba.

I don't like the Celtics, but I hope Kemba is a great player. I hope he gets healthy fully. I hope Marcus Smart comes back healthy. I feel like you guys have a shot if everyone's healthy. Fuck you. Fuck off. Sorry. Jeez.

What do you want from me? You just know that the Lakers are in a fucking great... You have a chance to overtake the Celtics with banners this year, which is bullshit because not all of them are from Los Angeles, but anyways. Yeah, that's the Bill Simmons argument. Not all of the banners are from Los Angeles, actually. You can't count the banners that were in Minneapolis. I mean, what are you doing?

It's like, do you think the Oklahoma City Thunder, they don't put banners up for the Sonics? If the Sonics are one. That's a good point. It is a good point. It's like that scene in Rounders. He's got like a bizarre ASMR-y, but like the opposite of ASMR. It doesn't put you at peace.

ZXQT. Now, Wax, it's funny because I'm trying to think of like what the deal is with Puppet Genos or some shit, but I know in LA, for a fact, I know what happens when the Lakers win for God's sake. Yes. You can hear the... When there were fans in Staples Center, you would hear the chants, we want tacos if the Lakers were going to win the game and hold their opponent under a point threshold, which

was 100 points at some point, and then due to a score inflation, eventually I think got raised to 110 points. And then you would get out of there with a coupon for two free Jack-in-the-Box tacos. And that was great because you were walking out of there with the win and you were walking out there with some tacos. The only thing is the coupon can't be redeemed that same night, which is kind of a bummer, but I think that's to keep the Jack-in-the-Boxes from being overwhelmed, especially the immediate vicinity of the arena.

Jacob, are you much of a sport? You know, I'm not a huge sport, but I have sort of in my later years, I'd say the last year before the pandemic, and especially in the pandemic, like really taken a liking to baseball and Dodgers baseball. Oh, nice. I never really liked it, but like I am a native Los Angelino, and I grew up with the Dodgers spirit around me, and now I've tapped in. And I love to see it.

But you know, I guess the only thing I can really think of, especially because I like didn't take it in as a kid and I wasn't listening to it on the news or radio, but like you got the classic steel base steel taco with the Dodgers, at least this past playoff season was a big, a big thing. But I'm trying to think of more like local, like where I grew up where it's like, if this team wins, like the local spots going to do something. And I just really can't recall like, you know, the like El Burrito Jr. doing like a two for one or something like that.

You know, I can't recall. Yeah, I don't remember anything tied in with like, you know, the Cal State Long Beach baseball team or anything. I just like I don't there might have been some promo with like Super Max or something, but I don't know. But there's also the Clippers had one with Chick-fil-A for a while and Chick-fil-A and it was like a mean spirited one. I didn't like it because it was if your opponent misses two free throws in a row,

you get a coupon for free Chick-fil-A. And I was like, I don't like I want your I want to root for the team to win. I want to root for the other team to the fucking fail. You know, I don't know. I guess it depends on the depends on the opponent. I'm trying to think. I mean, steel base steel taco, steel taco is a great national that they they'll do that for the World Series, I believe, too, right with with Taco Bell, which is great that I

know that they do that during the I think during the World Series. And I have I mean, when the when the Red Sox won, I went and did get that free taco or taco amongst other things, other items. I was texting the Quincy guys frantically during this because I'm trying to think of it. I mean, like I go to Celtics games like I haven't been to a Red Sox game now in a long while because I'm never usually home during the summertime. Yeah. And I went to a Red Sox game in at Dodger Stadium, but I can't. And this is what Mike has text back.

He said, Jordan's furniture used to do one. I think they still have something if a home run hits the dot of the eye in furniture on the sign on Causeway Street on a first pitch home run on the third Tuesday in July, you get a free sofa. And I think he's full of shit. No, Jordan's furniture used to do something like there's something when the when the Red Sox were in the World Series, too. Like you got free financing or like, or you didn't have to pay

like interest on your financing or something if you bought something during the season, they like done stuff like that. Jordan's furniture definitely does. No, I'm saying specifically, Micah's thing about it, like that whole thing sounds like bullshit, Micah's bullshit. That sounds like that's never, ever happened. Yeah. I mean, and also like that, which sounds like maybe it is a promo, though, because I feel like so many of those things are like, we don't want it to happen.

But I know Jordan's furniture has had a thing with the Red Sox, and I think they are like the furniture home of the Red Sox or that stupid bullshit. But I don't know. I can't think of like the Celtics. One of there's like a Puppet Geno's slice or some shit, but I'm not getting any answers from the Quincy guys. So and now all I know is, you know, most of my sporting life, Wags has been in LA for the last, you know, 15, 16 years.

So and usually try to hit a Celtics game anytime I'm home, but that hasn't obviously hasn't happened this year. But, but I'll get in there. I'll get in there before I go COVID. COVID be damned, but yeah, no, I can't steal a base. Steal a taco is the funnest one to me. And then even though at least that's the plus side of like I'm at a Lakers game and I was definitely rooting for the other team.

And then I'm like, well, at least I'll get this free taco. But you guys sound like fucking fat babies when you're chanting for your free tacos. You fucking pieces of shit. Get a bitch fucking light them up, dude. Fuckin come on, babies. Come on, come on, fat babies. But yeah, no, so I'm going to I'm sure that I'll get plenty of tweets. You're not a real boss.

And I lived in LA for 16 years for God's sake, shut up. Yeah. Yeah, but let us know what your local promotion is. Let us know what your local team. What are your what's your local eat? Hashtag home run home fun. If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at doublewithpodcasts at gmail.com.

Nice. Or leave us a voicemail at 830 go to that's 830 463 6844. Again, if we were out of steaks, we'd be overrun by Dracula's. Oh, boy. Get the double ways double or with the first episode of the Golden. This is the first episode I want to wrap up before the guest gets to plug anythings with the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash doughboys. Jacob Weissacki overdue.

We're glad we finally made it happen. Yeah, please come back. Thank you for your thorough thorough review of Wendy's. Anything you'd like to plug at this time. Thank you so much for having me. I'll be here happily to eat any amount of beef that you guys need, even if it means that detriment of my health. Any time you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Jacob Weissacki.

If you haven't give a listen to my podcast, I don't want to talk about Fight Club anymore, where I stay up for 72 hours and watch Fight Club on repeat. Other than that, you know, check me out on the webs and I post all my fun stuff. Thank you. Hell, yeah. Thanks for doing it, dude. This is great. We got to have you back soon. Yes, please. A lot of fun. A lot of fun.

We're beef buddies. And that'll do for this episode of Doughboys. Until next time for this. Yeah. Well, it's more than beef buddies. You know what we are? What? Hold on a second. We're Mishpachka. That's true. There you go.

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