Dr. Insanity - 4 Yеar Old Solves His Family's Horrifying Secret

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're going to talk, okay? You want to sit down? Tell me about, um, mommy or daddy or somebody else. My, my dad is bad now. Your dad is bad now? Tell me about dad being bad now. What happened at the house with your wife, with Jasmine? I remember.
Starting point is 00:00:19 Mom, she's gosh. I have you worked? I gave more seven. At AK-47? Okay. What did you do? I'm so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:30 How many kids are you up? Oh, five kids. Oh, four times and three times. Okay. On March 4th, a mother's worst nightmare occurred for Jasmine Serena. A man armed with a gun. armed with a gun, entered her home.
Starting point is 00:01:01 He would notice four children watching television in their living room. They would freeze up and look at him in horror, unable to do anything. But the man would pass by. He wasn't looking to harm Jasmine's children. Instead, he made his way over to the kitchen where Jasmine was standing and shot. Three bullets struck Jasmine, and she was left in critical condition, lying helplessly in her kitchen. The suspect left the scene in a hurry, thinking she was done for. But unfortunately for him, Jasmine managed to survive.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Despite her critical condition, she managed to call 911 and ask for help. Officer Baker was the first cop to arrive at the scene, seeing all the kids surrounding their mother, crying for help. She was immediately transferred to the El Paso Hospital by helicopter. Now it's a race against time for doctors. With each passing second, her chances of survival rapidly decrease. And for the detectives, they needed to find their suspect fast before he struck another innocent victim. Right now, they needed any clue that could lead them to the victim. possible killer so multiple officers would go back to the crime scene to take a closer
Starting point is 00:02:28 look at exactly what just went down okay so I have bullets or casings excuse me one there one on the table I have one where she was sitting or where I found her leaning against us yeah because you could see there's impacts right there and right there and there's another casing back over there on the floor Okay. I got out. She's sitting facing me with her legs out. She had a strike here, here.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And what looks like a through and through here with a shirt up, she had nothing that went through completely in the back. Oh, so the rounds are in here? I thought it was a round like, no, she's distended. It's all internal right here. According to the police report, the victim, Jasmine Serena, took two bullets to her abdomen and the third bullet landed right in her leg. Despite her critical condition, she gathered the little.
Starting point is 00:03:23 energy she had and told Officer Baker the attacker's name. Um, she said that it was Julian that did it. Valenzuela. That was the name of her own husband, Julian Valenzuela, and the father of four children who just saw their dad shoot their mom. However, this wasn't the only thing she was able to tell the cops. Jasmine also mentioned the car Julian drove to the house before shooting a red sedan. In a matter of seconds, all patrols nearby received a
Starting point is 00:04:00 notification to stop any red sedans they saw on the streets of Las Cruces. While Julian's vehicle was being tracked down, Officer Dollar, along with his partner, had a different task. It was reported Julian was living at this house. With him being on the run, police think there's a chance he could be hiding in the home. So the two officers would make their way into the home in hopes to find a surrendered Julian, or at least a clue of where he might be. Yeah, it's wide open, front and back, it's cluttered, just abandoned. Lost Christmas Police Department, anybody inside the residents? Come out to the sound of my voice!
Starting point is 00:04:44 There was no other choice but to enter the house forcibly and make sure the suspect wasn't hiding inside. For all they know, Julian could be waiting for them, and knowing he's armed, tensions are as high as ever for these cops. After searching the remaining rooms inside the house, the suspect was nowhere to be found. But just as they thought they would be coming out with nothing, they received this message on the radio. An exact description of the car Julian used to flee the scene just near their position, a red Hyundai Ilantra. Officer Dollar wastes no time and hops into his car.
Starting point is 00:05:55 He must get to the suspect as fast as possible before the police lose track of him again. Vehicle should have a black buffer, present no, possibly headed towards Leicester, and it is just going to be a newer model. 25 southbound on a spina, high rate of speed. Just passed Gardner. Copy southbound of spina, high rate of speed. Pursuit authorized.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Suspect on a gunshot bench. All right, he's gonna stop. He's stomping and milton. He's got a gun. Central, he just shot at me three or four times, I'm two-four. He just shot at me, three or four times, I'm two-fourth. Is anyone with eight-five? The pursuit continued until the suspect closed into the intersection of University Wave and Espina Street.
Starting point is 00:06:50 A red light was. shining bright for Julian to stop, but he didn't care and pushed on the gas. And just as he thought he could make it across, The suspect plummets right into a silver car, knocking the innocent driver to the side of the road. The officers in pursuit sped up to the crash, but they can't rush to apprehend him just yet, as he already fired multiple rounds at Detective Dollar just a minute ago, and there was every reason to believe he will do it again, so they have to be ready to take Julian down if he makes any sudden moves.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Show me your fucking hands! Do it now! Do it now! Show me your hands! Get all the fucking ground! Under multiple gun sights, the suspect has no other choice than to step out of the car and lie on the ground. Although he looks disabled, this doesn't satisfy Officer Dollar and his colleagues. From what they know, the suspect is still armed and could be
Starting point is 00:07:55 pretending to be injured to try and catch them by surprise. Officer Dollar wasn't going to take any chances, so he decided to deploy a different weapon to make the suspect obey their commands. I got the dog! Right now, Julian seems to see Disabled enough. A crash that could have killed him only left him with a concussion. He can't even stand up. Using a canine in this scenario would be an overkill.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But Officer Dollar had already made up his mind a few moments ago. Oh now to send this dog! Ready? But this is where officers would go too far. And it would actually impact this entire case later on. Officer Dollar's dog would bite into Julian just like instructed. However, it would take two minutes of struggle to make the dog finally let go of the suspect's flesh. The law doesn't prohibit a dog.
Starting point is 00:09:17 to bite and hold the suspect. However, the important part of using a canine is to make sure the suspect does not sustain unnecessary injuries during the arrest. Officer Dollars canines succeeded at holding the suspect, but this is where the officer met a serious challenge. He could not make the dog release the suspect. Even after being subdued and posing no further harm to the police officers, the dog continued to hold onto the suspect's arm, causing him more injuries. This is a clear case of excessive force and would impact the rest of this case. Dollar's decision to use canine will be reviewed and reevaluated as the investigation into the case progresses. But for now the suspect's bite wounds were too severe to ignore and his overall
Starting point is 00:10:04 condition suggested heavy alcohol intoxication or even worse. So to make sure Julian lived long enough to face justice, the cops decided to get him to the hospital and treat his wounds. While this team of officers was transporting the suspect, another team at the crime scene was collecting evidence to build a strong case against Julian and charge him for his evil crime. But there was a problem. They didn't know who he really was and how the crime first unfolded. His wife was in critical condition and her kids were too traumatized to talk with law enforcement. least for now. The only hope they've got lies in the hands of witnesses. Only their
Starting point is 00:10:45 stories could reveal how much of an awful person Julian really is. And luckily for the officers, the witnesses were not afraid to speak out against this monster. What did you see, man? I was over there right across the stop sign. Like on the other side? Yeah, and we're looking in front of us, and we're just like, like we see a car speeding so fast, right? And it's like, we're like, we're like, we're Looking at him and he's mad talking, he was really mad looking dude. What he looked like? He saw his face more than me.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I went aside. What was the car? It was like marines, reddish. That was a hundred. It was a lot of trouble. And he started screaming and they were having a Nike went in there. And I guess they were having an argument. And I heard like, bah, pa, three times.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I think he loaded probably more than five. Five? Yeah, probably more than five. And that's whenever he came outside. And then that's whenever I was like, he could shooting. He's actually shooting. So he, like, ran back inside. He got on his car.
Starting point is 00:11:40 and he shot like that way. He shot that way? Like, yeah, towards the truck. He just went like this and he shot. Towards that way, right? Towards this way, yeah, somewhere over there. The officer, the body officer, like his car, come right here and let me.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And he throws a shot. When he was coming this way, it was whenever we saw the cop. So we waved that and we were like, he just shot somebody, he just shot somebody. And then the car went that way. And then right as soon as he got, like, a little bit past that little Mexican truck, he shot again.
Starting point is 00:12:09 towards my people over there. I don't know if he shot up, or I don't know where he shot that we were running inside. If what these eyewitnesses are telling is true, then the whole shooting had a long and steady buildup to it. But what the next witness had to say would give officers even more disturbing insight into Julian's terrifying actions. Um, but the other night, um, they had domestics and she was yelling, you're gonna...
Starting point is 00:12:35 Me and he was had her by his hair. And he was stalking me. you dragging it outside just talking what was that like two nights ago two nights ago yeah two nights ago wasn't a minute like we always hit them fighting and aren't you yeah and was she on the ground yeah and he he was dragging out of her house and she was like this and he had her and he was you know going punches to her and then the day after that um she was parked right here was early in the morning i just got back and taking kids to school i saw her in their car and the kids were still back there and she was sitting in the front seat
Starting point is 00:13:09 and he was in the other side and it looked like they were arduing in the vehicle and she started hitting her head on the steering wheel and punching the steering wheel and they were arguing. And finally he got out of her vehicle and then he took off and then the next day
Starting point is 00:13:22 that's when he had her by the hair, dragging her out. She was yelling giving a... Not only did Julian physically abuse his wife but also threatened her life multiple times before actually going and fulfilling. fulfilling those threats.
Starting point is 00:13:39 There was only one person left to question, Jasmine herself, the victim of this twisted crime. Only she could tell the true story behind closed doors, that is, if she would ever recover from this vicious attack. Doctors could not promise her survival. Two shots to the abdomen are too severe for any person to survive. Likely, it was already too late for her. That's why the officers transporting Julian to the hospital needed Julian to survive. They wanted to hear his side of the story and understand one simple question. What drove him to try and do the life of his own wife and the mother of his four little boys?
Starting point is 00:14:22 But when they finally arrived at the hospital, cops quickly ran into a new problem. That's my right here, huh? Mm-hmm. Okay. What the whole lot? Yeah. So stop kicking. Nerds!
Starting point is 00:14:37 I bet. Shut the fuck off. What is that? You. Hey, there's sick people. Hey, calm down. You understand me? You calm down.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Let's... There's kids around here, dude. They don't know that. I know you don't, but I do. What do you have to be from here? I stopped with the f***. This is what happens? Nurses Michael.
Starting point is 00:15:02 No. No. You have my feet. You're not going to like this, so I'm going to try to you to calm down. Okay, we're a photograph or injuries. I'm not going to play. Ow! Ow!
Starting point is 00:15:13 Do you understand? I saw the doctor. Okay. We asked the doctor, so. How can you shoot me for me? Oh. Hey, dude. Let's go out.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Let's go, ma. We come. We come. You're going to sit on this wheelchair? Where will you get to the car? Right after the crash, the police discovered a pistol with an empty magazine, along with several half-empty bottles of beer inside. This explains Julian's erratic behavior during and after the arrest. Additionally, on his way to the police station, Julian admitted to shooting his wife in cold
Starting point is 00:15:51 blood all without interrogation. But as you'll soon see during the questioning, even details like this can suddenly vanish, because once they brought Julian to the interrogation room, he had already forgotten everything. Having those in mind, do you want to talk to me because I give me your version of what's been happening and whatnot? I don't know. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:16:13 I've been drinking for three days. To have seen our cow from papayas. What, if you want to keep them closed it, it's easier for you to talk that way and you're not struggling, just don't fall asleep. Was there anything other than alcohol you were drinking? No. What type of alcohol you drink?
Starting point is 00:16:31 Budwisers? Budwisers? Okay. Can or bottle? Bottles? Bottles? Okay. So, why for three days?
Starting point is 00:16:42 What's been going on? You and your old lady been having some problems? No. Huh? This only confirms why Julian is so visibly intoxicated, and it's honestly a surprise he's even able to understand and talk with the officer. Still, his condition might complicate the interrogation process. After all, alcohol can lead to lapses in memory. He simply might not remember the events of that evening, a perfect
Starting point is 00:17:13 excuse for someone like him in this situation. But this isn't going to be good enough for Detective Melinda to accept, so he keeps pressing for a confession. What happened at the house with your wife? With Jasmine? I remember. I think you do because you told them what happened. hand there. So I want to tell you a little. Mm-hmm. You know, it was good. Where'd you pull the gun out from?
Starting point is 00:17:43 No, my pocket. Which pocket? Which pocket? What kind of gun is it? I don't know what kind of gun is. I don't know what's gone on. I just know I cannot see nothing. I'm trying to look at one.
Starting point is 00:18:03 That's fine, I don't want you to see anything. I want you to remember things and talk to me about things. I can't even be mild. That's never happened to me. Little did Detective Melinda realize that getting any information from this suspect was going to be the most challenging thing he had to do in his career. But it doesn't stop him from using the oldest trick in the book to make Julian talk. Were you guys arguing? Were you fighting?
Starting point is 00:18:29 No. What are you sorry for? Sorry? No one. So let's go back to, you pulled a gun out of your pocket, right? No. No? So everything you've told officers that are on, that is on camera, now you're saying you don't remember.
Starting point is 00:18:47 My job. But here's the thing, Juliet. You've already said what's happened. I said... What did I do? No. You said... What happened? The officers have already told us.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Is she okay? But what? Do you want to know if she's okay from what? Oh, that's obvious. What? What's obvious? Oh, what happens? You tell me.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I love her. Uh-huh. What's been going on? Like, is she doubting how much you love her? Did you get caught doing something you weren't supposed to be doing? No. No. It's nothing like that.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Do you guys just have arguments here and there? Julian might not remember this too, but there are plenty of people who can speak about his abuse of people weaker than him. At this point, Detective Melinda barely holds himself together. For him, getting any meaningful information out of Julian is almost impossible. However, there is still one more thing
Starting point is 00:19:56 Detective Melinda can use to make Julian talk. In fact, what he doesn't know is that his kids are in the same building with him, just above this interrogation room. They were brought here to the police station to decide their father's fate. And they're about to reveal exactly what went down mere hours earlier. But before we get to that, I want to talk about a murder that happened across the country in Cedar Creek, California. This is a popular influence. Haley Rose, and Haley was mysteriously murdered. With Cold Case VR, the sponsor of today's video, use over 75 pieces of evidence including police reports, witness statements, CCTV footage, interrogations, and so much more to
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Starting point is 00:21:52 of Julian's murder attempt from these four young minds. Still, kids may be uneducated, but they won't tell you anything unless you become their friend. And these female psychologists knew exactly how to do it. In one and a half hours, they will build trust with all four kids, four-year-old Julian, five-year-old Benjamin, six-year-old Matthew, and ten-year-old Isaiah. And talk about how daddy shit their own mommy, not even realizing they will maximize. their father's sentence behind bars. Benjamin was the first kid to be asked about what he saw that fateful evening. Do you like to color?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Yeah. Here, I got some paper right here. What is it for you? You want to move it closer? Yeah. I'm going to write your name. And your name is Benjamin. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah. Benjamin Valenzuela. Benjamin Valenzuela? Yeah. How old are you, Benjamin? Five. You're five. Benjamin, I'm going to draw your face right here, okay?
Starting point is 00:22:56 No. Do you play with anybody? Do you have any brothers or sisters or something else? Um, brother. You have brothers? So I'm going to put Matthew... Conceola. Matthew Valenzuela.
Starting point is 00:23:10 And then Isaiah. Gonzola. Isaiah Valenzuela? Yeah. Drawing their faces, writing down the names of their siblings, and asking about their favorite things, all, minor but important things to elicit positive emotions in Benjamin's mind. That is, until they start talking about their father and what he did Jasmine. Tell me about, um, mommy or daddy or somebody else. Um, my mom, my dad is bad now. Your dad is bad now? Tell me about dad being bad now.
Starting point is 00:23:45 My dad. My dad. Your dad is your mom. And then what happened? And my, my mom. And my, my mom. Mom? They got no weapons. Mom got no weapons? And then you said Dad is bad now because he got Mom? Yeah. Yeah? What he done? Made his name.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Don't put his name. Huh. I won't put his name. Okay. Where did Mom get fucked? On stomach everywhere. On the stomach everywhere. What did he shoot Mom with?
Starting point is 00:24:14 What is his pistol? With his pistol. What did the pistol look like? Uh, I gave more seven. At K-47. Okay. But I was at the living room, I saw Daddy's mom. You were at the living room and you saw Daddy's mom?
Starting point is 00:24:31 What did Daddy say when he got Mom? He was just crying and my dad just said. Well, thank you for telling me what happened to Mom. Despite Benjamin being a well-spoken kid, his mind might be a little confused. Because, well, there's no such a little confused. There's no such thing as an AK-47 pistol. This may be a child's imagination, but how does he know what an AK-47 is? Was it something his dad talked about or even owned at one point?
Starting point is 00:25:05 For young Benjamin, it didn't matter. He was too afraid to remember. Benjamin, tell me, do you ever feel scared? When do you feel scared? Of the shot. Of the shot? Yeah. No one was fighting.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Good. I mean my dad's fine and then he shot him with this one and then load it up and then boom he shot it with this one and load it up and then boom shit them yeah yeah okay Benjamin tell me do you feel safe with mommy yeah how about with daddy do you feel safe with daddy no no no because I my mom I'm here okay well thank you Benjamin for letting me learn about you. You want to go back into the other room and play? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 What are you playing in the other room? Uh, so who? Who are you playing with? What? Matthew and I think. Okay. As Benjamin leaves the room, the psychologist returns to prepare the room for the next kid. Four-year-old Julian.
Starting point is 00:26:10 They follow the same steps to establish a positive connection before moving on to the most important part of this conversation. Julian, tell me about a mommy or a dad. You got a mommy or a daddy or something else? Draw daddy actually. Draw daddy? Daddy's really big. Daddy's really big?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah. He has a big stomach. Daddy has a big stomach? Yeah. That's right. Daddy just, just, a mom in the floor in the kitchen, and Daddy had a gun and he said,
Starting point is 00:26:45 Mom like you or later. So you said last night with daddy mom? Yeah, right here. So you got mom right here and right here and right here? Yeah. And mom's in the hospital now. And mom's in the hospital now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:04 So far, Julian's story of what happened sounds similar to what his brother Benjamin told. Still, there is something Julian told so suddenly that it even surprised the psychologist. There are coming here and the cops coming and there's four clocks and and there's the gangsters. There's the gangsters there? Yeah. Who are the gangsters? For shooting. Do you know the gangsters?
Starting point is 00:27:35 Yeah. What are their names? The gangsters? Ryan and Dad are. It's hard to assess if it's the kid's imagination or if his father hung out with criminals in their own house. The thing is, little Julian remembers their name. So it might be the case that those gangsters not only knew his father, but also provided him with the guns, including the AK and a shotgun. Now it's up to the psychologist to get to the bottom of this disturbing information.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Tell me what did Dad do you mom with? Well, oh, with the gun? With the gun. Mom was messing with Daddy. Mom was messing with Daddy? She was yelling at him, and now she said, right year, right, you're yelling at him. What was she saying when she was yelling at him? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:33 She said that. Mm-hmm. Okay. You said that dad's mom and that she was laying on the floor in the kitchen? Mm-hmm. And any other, four times, three times. Okay. Is there anything else that you want to talk about today?
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. Yeah, tell me. Me and Matthew were fighting. You and Matthew were fighting? Yeah. And then what happened? Playing to the TV, when they were playing on the little TV. On the little TV?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah, yeah. And I spun it in the game, but for real, with Clint Giacutado. There's Ricklin and Trevor and Michael. Are they real people? Are they people in the game or something else? In the game. Okay. The psychologist can rest easy. Those gangsters are just part of the game. Still, it is neglectful of parents to let their kids play these games at such a young age.
Starting point is 00:29:35 With this conversation over, the psychologist invited the third kid, 6-year-old Matthew. However, Matthew has nothing else to add and shared the same story his two other siblings told the psychologist, especially going over the same murder weapon and insults both yelled at each other. With this, Matthew leaves the room, and the next, and final kid, enters. Julian's oldest son, and, well, most important for this investigation. 10-year-old Isaiah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Since he's much older than his brothers, he possesses a better awareness of the situation, meaning he could provide clearer details about the crime. And the psychologist understands that, which is why she's going to try a different approach with him. Do you have any questions about that? No. No? Okay. Well, just so you know no friends or family or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:30:23 get to listen while we talk, okay? Well, Nate, you feel it okay? All right. Well, if at any time you need to take a break or you just need a second, let me know, okay? Okay. With this mature approach, Isaiah doesn't tell much to the psychologist,
Starting point is 00:30:39 Except one crucial detail. The shooting was a climax, and Isaiah saw the build-up to the shooting long before anyone else. Isaiah, have there been times when you've heard fighting or arguing something else at home with me? Tell me about that. She was just arguing about my normal. And then yesterday he pulled up by my mom's work, And you just do a bottle on the floor in front of my mom's heart. Is that something that you heard about or something you saw or something?
Starting point is 00:31:16 I heard once you hit on the phone telling somewhere. Oh, okay. Isaiah, when was it that he got your mom? To me. Today. With Isaiah's last story shared, the interrogation can be wrapped up and summarized. The detectives now know that Julian has a long history of abusing his wife, with intent and even desire to kill her, and nothing could have stopped him, even his own kids.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And finally, the shitting of their own mother right before their eyes. Now the detective can use this information to corner Julian, confront him, and force him to make a confession. So they would bring him right back to the room where they started their discussions. You don't remember your wife? I don't remember that. Because your kids do. your kids are telling us daddy mama that's what your kids are saying but you're gonna sit here and play this crap that I don't remember anything when you've
Starting point is 00:32:17 already said it to the other officers and I got multiple kids your kids saying daddy mommy and you're gonna sit here and play this game that I don't remember anything I can't see I can't see I don't remember anything my kids run wrong then why are they saying daddy not mommy No. You don't know why they're saying that? No. Let me guess.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Your wife is making them say that, right? Is that the route you want to go on? I don't know. You know what I find funny, Julian? Or not funny, but disheartening. You've yet to ask me how your wife is doing, whether she's alive or... I was over. Apparently not that much, could you...
Starting point is 00:32:57 I don't remember doing that. You don't remember doing that? No. Tired of hearing the same excuse over and over again, Over and over again, Detective Melinda takes his gloves off and delivers a satisfying beatdown to Julian's poor excuses. Would you know who's going to remember that forever? Her and your kids. Because Daddy got money.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And then when they figure all this out and find out Daddy didn't have the courage to be honest about what happened. He sat there and said, oh, I've been drinking for four days. I don't remember anything. That's what you want people to remember you as? I remember begging her on her phone. Begging her what? Begging to be with her. She able to be with you? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Go off the ball. And I can't breathe. Hey, let me ask you a specific question. You remember there's beer in the car? There's a lot of beer. Do you remember? Remember that there's beer in the car? I remember there's a lot of beer.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Okay, but you don't remember your wife? No. So beer's more important than your wife? I don't want to know what's going on or know she's okay. I'm waiting to hear back from El Paso to see if she's okay or if... I don't know if she's even alive right now, dude. I'm trying to find all that out. But I can't even get you to tell me what happened.
Starting point is 00:34:33 All I remember is going inside the house, and I was here. Okay. From there, everything's a blur. I was drunk, and I'm still drunk. Hey, that's not what you said to the officers earlier. That's on town. That's because I was drunk. And when you're drunk, you say stupid things.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I wanted the cops to get me. How? How was that going to happen? I wanted them to shoot me. How? Why? I don't. No. Cops don't just shoot people for no reason. Why would they have shot you? Did they
Starting point is 00:35:08 at you tonight? What do you think? I don't remember. You don't remember. After using his own words against him, getting verbally beaten down by the detective and even bringing up his kids, Julian still refuses to remember anything prior to this interrogation. This makes things even worse for him. If he doesn't talk now, Now, the cops will write down their own version of the story that will be used to prosecute him if Julian does not comply. All Julian needs is to talk. That's what I'm going to put on my paperwork. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:45 When I charge you with attempted fire, high a rate of battery with a weapon, and all the other charges that go along with this. My final statement in that paper is going to say, I don't remember I was drunk for four days. That's what you want me to put in the paperwork. Is that what you want me to put? I want you to put that because I don't remember. But I'm also going to put in there. During earlier contact, on camera, he stated this. That he did do his wife.
Starting point is 00:36:15 That he did do this when Officer stopped him. Because that's all stuff I can prove, Julian. Okay. So hopefully your wife survives, and when I talk to her, I'll tell her what you just said. I don't say that, I love her. No, but that's what you're telling. I'm telling her what you tell you.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Tell her that I love her so much. No. If I knew what was going on and I knew my severity of my charges, I would be trying my ass off. I don't think so, dude. I think we're wasting our time. I mean, you can't even man up to what you did. With this interrogation finally done,
Starting point is 00:36:57 Julian is returned back to his cell where he would spend hours wondering why he ultimately left all his four children without their mother. Little did he realize, Jasmine survived. Three days after the shooting, Jasmine finally opened her eyes. She had gone through an operation that saved her life, and the officers made sure to visit immediately, not only to check on her, but also to finally hear her side of this twisted case. Okay, Jasley, I'm a detective one of the detectives. They've been checking up on you. They told me that you were able to try to talk what this happened.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Oh, Simon, 13. Uh-huh. And who is he? No, my son. What is Julian to you? What is Julian to you? I can't stand. With this statement alone, it will be much easier for the cops to make Julian pay for his crimes.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Even if Julian doesn't remember anything, Jasmine's phone recorded everything he had said to her. What do you think? What sparked? Was that a verbal conversation you had or what happened? Oh, he lied to me. He said he was going to call me. phone? I'm actually. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:38:26 So I read it back. Okay. On your text messages with him, any threats or anything said over the phone? What were those? I have all the messages. Other than the text messages, was there any phone conversation? Yeah. What did that?
Starting point is 00:38:43 What do you need to do? Did he threaten you on the phone before that? What did he sell? What did he sell? He needs to do what do you think that meant? Did he ever mention or threatened you before? Yeah. I told me to say I don't want to do anything to the third.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Uh-uh. And then next thing you know he's there at the house. Okay. And then you're in the kitchen. He walks in, does he say anything to you? So does he think I'm playing. Mm-hmm. Oh, what do you say?
Starting point is 00:39:22 So what are you doing? Uh-huh. What are you going to? Okay, where are the kids up at this time? They were in the room? In the room? I'm there in the shop, the camera, you have to see them with you. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Had you ever seen them with them before? Yep. What type of them? So 80. One can only imagine what horrors Jasmine and her kids had to endure. had to endure. But in the end, she can finally rest, knowing well that her officer was finally arrested and will never be able to hurt her again. And what she would tell the officer now will make sure Julian will be gone for a long time.
Starting point is 00:40:06 We did arrest him. He's in jail right now and we have to know what to keep him. You want to press charges? We're going for him. I did, um, based on the information that we had, is essentially a 10-differ on you. Because all the kids were there, I charged him as well. Obviously, he was drinking, so the DWI, the aggravated on the officer, and then the resign.
Starting point is 00:40:36 He's had like nine or ten charges on him. This final statement from Jasmine will be the one to seal Julian's fate come court time. But before Julian's court trial, an internal investigation was conducted on Officer Dollar's decision to use a cane, in the arrest. The witnesses were questioned with Officer Dollar being interrogated separately. In the end, Officer Dollar was found guilty of using excessive force during the arrest.
Starting point is 00:41:01 The city of Los Cruces had to pay Julian Valenzuela, the victim of canine mulling, $30,000. However, no money in the world could save Julian from the punishment for his crime. After viciously attempting to murder his wife and rob his kids of their mother, his trial date finally arrived and he stood in court to answer for his crime. In November of 2002, Julian Valenzuela, a 34-year-old shooter, accepted a plea deal and was sentenced to a maximum sentence of 10 years, followed by two years of parole for his wife and at police officers. The city of Las Cruces also paid him $30,000 after a canine mauled him during the arrest on March 4th.

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