Dr. Insanity - A Detective Realizes The Suspect Is Dying

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

This is the TWISTED case of Ryan Waller where Detectives would only realize what had been done to Ryan until after everything was over.. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're telling me they shot you with a revolver in your eye. Is it a BB gun? No, it was a real gun, man. It was just a revolver. They shot you in the eye. You wouldn't be talking to me right now. It was most likely you'd be dead. But little did police officers know. He was actually telling the truth. As while 18-year-old Ryan was being mocked by detectives, he was suffering from a gunshot to the head

and experiencing a brain bleed that could end his life at any moment. trying to go right to sleep and try to go back to bed. You're not going back to bed. On the 23rd of December 2006, two men broke into Ryan Waller's house, looking for revenge for a past argument. Ryan heard the noise at the door, but when he went to investigate, a hand reached inside and shot him twice in the eye.

The two men, Richie and Larry Carver, then entered his house and shot Ryan's girlfriend, Heather, killing her instantly. By some miracle, 18-year-old Ryan survived and was able to talk to police, when they arrived hours later. Given he'd just been shot in the head, he told them he had no idea what happened,

but instead of being taken straight to the hospital, he was taken to the police station and interrogated for the longest hour of his life. Before the interview started, Ryan was left in the room alone. He squirmed in pain for 20 minutes straight, and worse yet, he was handcuffed to the desk and unable to scream for help. Ryan is

But the detectives begin the interrogation anyway. You would know why you're down here, Ryan? You have no idea why you're down here? I don't know what happened, okay? So how do I read you something to make sure you understand your rights? Okay. Have you ever seen that TV show cops? or CSI or anything like that.

Okay. You've ever seen that? No. You've never seen any kind of cop show, lawyer show, any kind of show? Yeah. Okay. I'll want you to listen up real close.

Okay, you have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can't be used against you in a court of law. What's the highest grade you went through school? I don't know. I don't know. You don't know the highest grade you went through? Eighth? Eighth grade?

Did you graduate? Yeah. Do you have a GED? I don't know. You don't know what? I don't know. I don't know. I just want to go home.

You're not going to go home right now. What's the highest grade that you completed? B? No. Not grade. As in letter grade, I'm asking, did you graduate high school? No. And the highest you went was eighth grade?

Mm, yep. Do you know how to read and write, Ryan? Yeah. The way the detective is talking to Ryan implies that he knows something is wrong. He's raising his voice slightly, slowing down, and talking in very simplified language just as you were to child. Yet, even with the massive red mark around Ryan's face, the dazed responses he's giving, the detective still decides that nothing is wrong and continues questioning him.

Do you have a girlfriend? Um, no. You know a girl named Heather? Mm-hmm. What is Heather's last name? The one that lives there right now? I guess, I don't know. If her name's Heather, what's her last name?

I don't know which name she's trying to use is her last one. She's trying to have a real last, as her nicknames. I don't know. What nickname does she go by? She probably wants the last name, Kynman. Kymann? How old is Heather? 16 or 17.

Is she a white girl? Yeah. How did you meet Heather? I'm known her. She's in school. I don't know. I don't know. He's just known her from school?

She used to be a business name. She was being a class, your business class? Mm-hmm. All right. What happened to your face? I don't know. You told the officer just a few minutes ago that someone hit you. Do you remember who hit you?

I think it was Heather. Why would Heather hit you? It was an accident. I forgot why. What was an accident? Heather's last name? No. What was an accident?

How they're hitting me. What did she hit you with? Her hand, in the eye. Did you guys have an argument? Not really, no. Not really? Uh-uh. What happened for her to hit you in the eye like that?

She just hit me in an accident. She was giving Christina a head. She was what? She was helping Christina with her hair or something. I don't know. Who's Christina? She's on the couch. Christina's on the couch?

Ryan and Heather lived with another person whose name isn't public. There's a possibility that it's the Christina he's referring to here, but either way, nobody else was home at any point of the night of the attack. Ryan is clearly suffering traumatic brain injury, and it's astonishing that the detective isn't connecting the dots. Even if it was just blunt force, like Ryan is telling him, He still should be checked out by a doctor given how he's acting. But of course, that's not how it happens.

Instead, it somehow gets even more messed up. What happened last night? I don't know. You don't know? I really don't. I just want to go to sleep and go to sleep. Well, you remembered how they're hitting you in the eye, right? I don't know what anybody was doing.

I really don't. Who was in the house when you went to sleep? Christina and Heather. Christina and Heather? And Christina was on the couch? Heather was. Heather was on the couch. You told me Christina was on the couch just a minute ago.

I don't know, man. I really don't. I really don't. You just don't know? I really don't, man. I just want to go and go to sleep, man. Oh, I mean, you're not going to go anywhere. Do you know what happened in your house last night? Uh-uh. Is that house yours? Mm-hmm.

Yours or your parents? None. What happened? I don't know what happened. You're all beat up, so tell me what happened. I don't know. I just want to go to sleep, man. That's it.

There's a dead girl in your living room. She's dead? Yes. Heather? I don't know. I want to know what happened in your house last night. The girl on the couch is dead? I don't know if she's dead.

She's on the college, she's dead. Well, these people came over, Richie and his dad, with shoot and arrow, blow and darts. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. They hit me and her with those. That's it. And Heather wasn't there.

And Eric wasn't there. It was just me and Heather. It was there. You and Heather were there. And then what happened? And that's it. Richie and his dad tried to break in to the back. Richie and Dad.

His dad? Mm-hmm. Who's Richie? I don't know. Well, you obviously know him. You know what's named by Richie? He used to live there. Was he a roommate of yours?

He used to be. They hit you? Yeah. Now it's Richie that hit you? Not Heather? No, Richie and his dad. Richie and his dad? They hit you.

Yes. Why? Because they were trying to get their stuff. I don't know why. And they had some kind of bowing arrows? Mm-hmm. They each had two revolvers and they didn't lay off any shells. Okay, you just said they had bone arrows.

Now they have revolvers? That's what I meant. They have revolvers. They have revolvers. Yes. And then what happened? And then they shot us with those. They shot both of you? Yeah.

Where did they shoot you at? I got shot in the eye. You got shot in the eye. I think so. With a revolver? I think. I don't know, man. I don't know.

Fuck. Then what happened? I don't know. You don't know a lot. Ryan? I don't, man. I really don't. I'd like to see this detective try and articulate himself anywhere near as Ryan is in this situation.

He's managed to recount the exact sequence of events as well as the perpetrator's names with the revolver bullet still in his brain. It does sound like an unbelievable story, and that's probably why the cop is essentially laughing at him by now. But that still doesn't excuse any part of what's going on. He's obviously distressed, in pain, and needs to go to the hospital. But he's still more than half an hour away from any form of salvation. Ryan, why do you tell me what really happened there? Because I don't believe. I really don't know, man. I really don't. I don't know. I can tell you anything, I swear. I want you to tell me the truth. That's all I want.

Ritchie and his dad came there. And I don't know why. I don't know why. I don't know why. But they put me in a sleeping hole. And they put me in a sleeping hole with the arrows and shit. Like I lived through that crap. Okay, they put you in a sleeping hold?

Yeah. What is that? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, man. You're telling me they put you in a sleeping hold. What is a sleeping hold? I don't know.

Well, explain it. It's coming out of your mouth. Explain that. Tell me what's a sleeping hole. I really don't know, man. Okay. You're telling me, you're all over the board here, number one. You're seeing bows and arrows, you're seeing revolvers, and you're saying some other thing, and you're saying they shot you in the eye.

Okay? They shot you with a revolver in your eye. Yes. Is it a BB gun? No, it was a real gun. It was a real gun, man. It was just a revolver. If they shot you in the eye with a revolver,

you wouldn't be talking to me right now. It was most likely you'd be dead. That's what I thought too, man. I really don't know. I really don't know, and I just want to go back to sleep and try to go back to bed. You're not going back to bed, okay? That's not going to happen.

What happened to Heather? Heather got shot. Where did she get shot? Inside the face one. inside the face once. She got shot inside of the face? Mm-hmm. How close were you to her what she got shot in the face?

It was after I got shirt, so I didn't even hear anything. So you got shot first? Uh-huh. And what happened? Did you follow the ground? Yeah, I was trying to get up and shit, and I couldn't. And then she got shot? Mm-hmm.

What did you do? Did you call 911? Uh-uh. Did you see if she was alive? She was sleeping still, and that's it. I just let her sleep. She got shot in the side of the face, and you let her sleep? Yes.

This does not make sense, Ryan. I know. I didn't mean to, man. I'm sorry. I didn't know if she was passing out. That's because I got shot wrong ones, too, and I was going to pass out. Okay, this is now, not before. You're saying right now you've been shot?

Yes. In the eye? Yes. With the revolver? Yes. All right. Ryan, you need to start telling me that you're, because your story doesn't make sense. I'm trying, man.

I don't know. Just ask me anything and tell you the truth. Just ask me. Well, I'm trying to, and you're not even coming close to the truth. Go ahead ask me. What happened with you and Heather last night? Her dad came and shot the house. And shot her.

Mm-hmm. Her dad shot her. Mm-hmm. All right. And then leaves. Mm-hmm. And what did you do? I tried to go back to sleep.

After you've been shot, in the eye. You didn't know not to call 911. Why did you call 911? Because I was just trying to go to sleep, that's it. You just saw Richie and his dad shoot your girlfriend and you just felt like you needed to go to sleep? Ryan, look at me. Ryan.

Yes. I don't know, man. I really don't know. Why did you shoot Heather, Ryan? I didn't shoot Heather. She was already shot once by her brother, I swear. Richie? Yes. Richie shot his own sister. Yes, I swear.

That's it. Say that not me. And you've been shot in the eye? Yes. Put your feet off my table, please. My feet hurt, man. I don't know why. Get them off my table.

Let me see your nose. Put your legs down. Put your legs down. Bring your face closer. Oh, my head hurts. Okay. Yeah, be right back. Finally, the detective at least considers the fact

that Ryan might be in some form of physical distress. distress. He leaves the room to ask for an ambulance and returns momentarily to try and get a few more details about the shooting. Ryan clarifies that Heather isn't related to Richie or his dad and that he's got no idea why they attacked him that evening. Ten minutes later, the fire department arrives to take a look at Ryan's injury. He's acting like he has a serious head injury, which would make sense. But you guys confirm. Brian. Yeah, we'll take them. I don't know why. We can tell. Did that all, has it been like that before or just happened to night?

Like this for like a day or so. What, so it happened what? The other night? I don't know. You don't know what happened? Were there guns around? This kid Eric did it. I don't know how he did it exactly. I might have been shot. I don't know.

I don't know. It looks like it went right through, huh? Right through, huh? Yeah, it might have one now. Ryan gets his blood pressure taken, and finally, after 56 minutes of unnecessary and ultimately deadly interrogation, he's taken to the hospital. Upon inspection at the hospital, doctors immediately realized his status was critical and that he also had indeed been shot in the eye.

They also told his father that he'd contracted an infection that could have been prevented had he received proper care. Ryan stayed at the hospital for 35 days and lost part of his brain and his left eye. Worst of all, though, he experienced regular seizures from the day he left the hospital. Until 2016, when one finally took his life. Richie and Larry were both given life in prison without the possibility of parole.