Dr. Insanity - A Husband Is Told That He Killed His Wife

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

If you’re ever injured in an accident, you can check out Morgan & Morgan. You can start your claim in just a click without having to leave your couch: https://ForThePeople.com/DrInsanity --- Multi-m...illionaire business owner Matthew Mollicone drives his wife Kimberly to confront her secret lover, Daniele Giannone. Minutes later, a gunfight erupts outside Daniele’s home, leaving Kimberly dead in the crossfire. What follows is a tense investigation involving surveillance footage, disputed self-defense claims, and a courtroom battle that divided Michigan. Because the man who fired the fatal shot isn’t the one who ended up behind bars. --- This video was made for educational purposes only. The video is presented to provide genuine footage of police incidents to promote transparency in government while providing educational, informative and newsworthy content allowing viewers to examine and assess public safety material. This is a fact-checked documentary using authoritative sources. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:04 Inside this car are multi-millionaire business owners Matthew Molokone and his wife Kimberly. Matthew is seconds away from confronting the man who's been in a secret affair with his wife. He has a plan to get revenge, but has no idea how horribly it's about to play out. You need to get back over here. You know, it's my wife. Get to work, please. Hands up! As officers rushed to the scene, they're met with multiple shooters, families scrambling for help, and two critically injured victims.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And while Matthew sits in the back of a cop car, he has no idea his wife, the one he just got into a shootout over, is lying feet away with a fatal wound to her neck. Please. She didn't make it. She died. Oh, no! No! No! Police are stepping inside the nearly 8,000 square foot mansion of Matthew and Kimberly Mullicone,
Starting point is 00:02:35 arriving in the middle of a rapidly developing homicide investigation. The married couple are well-educated, successful business owners. Together, they run State Barricades Incorporated, a traffic equipment company generating an estimated $3 to $6 million annually. They live here with their three teenage children, And from the outside, the mollicones appear to have built a stable, comfortable, and luxurious life. Or so it seems. Because behind these walls, someone has been living with a dark secret, one that's been buried for years, and it will soon change this family's life forever.
Starting point is 00:03:16 These officers are here to execute a search warrant following the sudden passing of Kimberly the previous night. They need to document the scene, collect evidence, and piece together what led up to the incident. Sheriff's permit. We have overlooking upstairs. I'm going to clear this wing. Sheriff's permit. There's another room upstairs. Inside the mansion, the wealth is impossible to miss as officers sweep through multiple entertainment spaces and rooms dedicated to leisure.
Starting point is 00:03:57 But as they look deeper, grimly. details start to emerge. Looks like maybe drugs on the table, boss? Yeah. And there's paint on the table. This is definitely a sign of there's a big struggle going on here. And the basement on a coffee table, officers find lines of being laid out beside a straw and a razor blade.
Starting point is 00:04:18 The physical findings inside the mansion are only the first hints of what's been happening behind closed doors. And the officers searching this home are walking through the opening chapter of the tragic downfall awaiting the Molokone family. Approximately 15 hours earlier, around 7.15 p.m., Kimberly and Matthew start their night in the basement of their mansion, drinking, smoking, and using substances. This is not the first time they've done this,
Starting point is 00:04:50 but this time, an argument about Kimberly's affair with another man is in full swing. Matthew believed the affair ended years ago after he confronted her about it, But earlier that day, he discovered it never stopped, and that Kimberly transferred nearly $60,000 from their company funds to her lover's debit and credit accounts. Around 7.15 p.m., the argument escalates physically. Matthew begins throwing objects, breaking glass, shoving Kimberly, and shouting insults, and the basement starts to look like the aftermath of a struggle. At 9.20 p.m., the couple leave the mansion in their white,
Starting point is 00:05:30 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Matthew has one firearm on his hip and another accessible inside the vehicle. At the same time, Kimberly's secret lover is at home winding down from a barbecue with his pregnant fiancé, his parents next door, and his sister's kids playing outside. They have no idea that within minutes, their quiet evening will take a drastic change. What is the address of the emergency? What is the ambulance? What is the address? What is the address? I don't know the address here. Where are you calling from?
Starting point is 00:06:11 There's a house. Just off the 29 miles on the east side. I'm in the line of fire. Okay. Where is the person with the gun? I'm behind a car. Where is the person that is she? He's in the south.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Sir, do you have a weapon on you? Yes, I do. You do? What is your name? Get him out. Approximately five minutes after this alarming call, a team of 31 officers from the McComb County Sheriff's Office is mobilized and dispatched to the,
Starting point is 00:06:38 location. All they know is that a man named Matthew Molokone is trapped in the line of fire, and that somewhere nearby, an active shir is targeting innocent victims. When officers arrive, they quickly notice Matthew taking cover behind a smoking car. Get down, get down, get down. Hand behind your back. Don't move. What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? Her name's Kim. Who name's Kim? Don't move. Don't fucking move.
Starting point is 00:07:14 He's in custody. She didn't deserve this. We got a shooter in the house, right there. He's 35-ish. He's 35-year-old. White T-shirt? Black hair, white T-shaim. What's his name? Danny. Danny, 35-year-old white T-shirt, dark hair.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Don't trust him. He carries two guns. Possible two guns. Help her, please. Never mind the shooter. The shooter. That's not doing it. They'll never mind the ship if you're buying the car. Get to work.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Matthew is clearly distressed, begging officers to save his wife, Kimberly, who is still trapped in the backseat of a car about 100 feet away. 300 feet beyond the car stands the shooter's hideout. A house with multiple windows, an open garage door, and countless angles from which to fire. In the next few seconds, the officers must make a snap decision, neutralize the shooter first, and risk Kimberly bleating. risk Kimberly bleeding out or step into the dangerous open field to save her. Yay! You pulled me in front of the front, pull her this way.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Pull her this way. Now, five feet. Come on, let's go. Come on, man. It's time to start shooting. This family needs to get through. She's more important than that asshole. She don't deserve this, man.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Hey, get to work, please. Please, I don't care what you know. You got to get to work. You need to get back to me. Wait up. You have to my wife. Get to work, please. Please, please, please, I'm begging you.
Starting point is 00:09:17 CPR something. CPR. We have an active shooter, man. We can't. I can't. I'll do it then. I need a car. Please start down this way.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Need cover. We have, looks like one gunshot wounds in the neck. Her call on the elderly male is a white t-shirt. I'm just at the garage. Her father, not the shooter. Okay. After managing to pull Kimberly from the car, paramedics begin working urgently to say,
Starting point is 00:09:44 her. She's been shot in the neck and is unconscious, so every passing second matters. At the same time, SWAT prepares to move in and neutralize what they believe is an active shooter barricaded inside the house. At this point, officers are operating almost entirely off of Matthew's account, thinking there's an armed gunman inside. In reality, there's no active shooter at all, only a wounded homeowner and several family members inside the residence. Without that contact, Every tactical decision carries enormous risk and could put innocent lives in danger. And within seconds, that possibility is tested when the two elderly parents suddenly emerge from the house. You're ruining my boy.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Malpino has been trying to come out to us. Come here, sir. Right behind you, sir, you're all it out. Come here. Sir! Oh man, come on. Sir, stop one second, ma'am, you keep walking towards me. Stop.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Come on. Here, come here, come here, come here, over here. Hands by in your back. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Who else is in the house? My daughter alone, my little children. Two little children?
Starting point is 00:11:25 My daughter, your daughter, two grandchildren, and your son's house. Where's your son at? In the floor. Yeah, right here, Salvatore. to your left foot. Because of a language barrier, officers are only able to piece together fragments of what the elderly couple is saying. It sounds like their son is wounded inside the home, along with his fiancé, sister, and two children. Strangely, the couple themselves appear unharmed,
Starting point is 00:11:57 despite having just exited the same house where the alleged gunman is believed to be hiding. This observation leads officers to believe that the wounded son inside the house is the gunman Matthew claimed had been firing at him when police first arrived. But before they can reassess their strategy, someone else suddenly rushes out of the house. With the three more family members out of the house, police now believe only two people inside remain, the elderly couple's son and his fiance. And based on Matthew's 911 call and earlier statements, they're operating under the assumption that the sun inside is armed and extremely dangerous. So officers tighten the perimeter and cautiously advance towards the house preparing for a potential shootout.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I got it. I got a revolver on the ground here. Hold that ground. Yep, I got a revolver on the ground right here. Hey, Ryan, careful. I think the shooting happened right here. So I see a shell. I got a pistol. So just watch we stop it. There's a couple more guns in the house. It's going to hurt, but it's for your best good, all right? All right. What's your name?
Starting point is 00:13:56 Danny, I'm Jason. There you go. Inside the residence, officers find 38-year-old homeowner Daniel Giannone suffering from two gunshot wounds. Beside him, his fiancé El Yona is desperately trying to stop the bleeding. Police call in paramedics to treat Daniel's wounds. Daniel himself doesn't appear to be the aggressive gunman, Matthew described. And his officers begin speaking with him, they quickly realize the situation may be the complete opposite of what they first believed. Or if it went in and then came out.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Okay. So. Well, I was running away, so, but. I don't know how many, obvious shots were flared. Whatever was in that gun. This is the gun that shot you here? No, that's the gun I had him with me. You didn't have a rifle?
Starting point is 00:14:49 No, no rifle. If we helped you stand up or do you want us to carry it? Um, I mean, keep the camera back. Keep the camera on. Yeah. What's that? By some miracle, officers finally managed to stabilize the scene without further These. Following this, Daniel is placed on a stretcher and carried out of the house to be transported to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Thanks to his fiance's quick efforts to control the bleeding, he has a chance to survive. However, the outcome is different for Kimberly. As on the other side of the property, paramedics reach a grim conclusion. reach a grim conclusion. She, yeah, she's dead. We got an active secure scene going to have to monitor. Tragically, Kimberly does not survive her injuries, leaving behind her three children and her husband Matthew, still unaware that she's dead. With that, the case immediately turns into a homicide investigation, and police,
Starting point is 00:16:16 Police must determine exactly what happened as it's clear something isn't adding up. Just a few hundred feet away, Matthew is placed in a patrol car and transported to the station. Daniel's fiancé, sister, and parents are also taken to the station for questioning. Back inside the house, officers finally have a moment to breathe and begin piecing together what happened. But not for long, because they're about to discover there's an entire basement they missed during the initial search. It's completely unchecked with something interesting waiting downstairs. All right, you clear, Piz-Jack? Ryan, come in with us.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You go with Josh and off the list. Got a door closed. Don't go, don't go. Yep. As if things weren't already complicated, the officers just stumbled upon something entirely unexpected, a seemingly hidden marijuana grow operation, but the biggest discovery is what they don't find.
Starting point is 00:18:15 CCTV cameras. Officers already spotted multiple cameras around the house, making the absence of any in the basement suspicious. This exact CCTV system will soon prove crucial to solving the case, revealing exactly how the shooting unfolded and who fired the fatal shot. Beautiful, we got cameras? He's got cameras? By the time the house is fully cleared, police begin locking down the scene and send Kimberly's body for autopsy. Following this, some of the most experienced. Experienced investigators in the state are brought in to take over the case led by Detective Frazier of the Macomb County Sheriff's Office. Frazier quickly begins identifying the people he and his team will need to focus on. Matthew, a supposed victim of the shooting, Daniel, the wounded homeowner, and Daniel's inner circle,
Starting point is 00:19:09 mainly his sister, Gabriella, and his fiancé, Eliona. Despite the detective's combined decades of experience, this case will push them to their limits, eventually leading to one of the most morally controversial trials in the state of Michigan, and forcing detectives to make one of the hardest calls of their careers, letting the man who fired the fatal shot walk free. It's now three hours after the shooting, and based on preliminary statements from responding officers, investigators believe they may be dealing with a volatile dispute between two families,
Starting point is 00:19:45 with multiple shooters in the picture. So they need to determine what? What sparked the conflict and who fired the fatal shot that ended Kimberly's life. However, there is one major problem ahead. In cases like this, there is no neutral ground. Every statement will be biased and each person will blame the other side. Additionally, both primary suspects are temporarily off the table, as Daniel is being treated at the hospital and Matthew is too emotionally volatile to be interviewed.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Still, investigators have to start somewhere, so they decide to begin by interviewing Daniel's family, starting with his fiancée, Alyona. Her account will be compared against other witness statements, looking for inconsistencies that might expose the truth. But for Aliona, this interview serves a different purpose, as she will slowly begin to realize that the man she plans to marry has been living a secret double life for years. Anytime you want to be done, just let me know. You're not under arrest or anything like that. We're just trying to piece together what happened. As I'm sure you are as well. Yeah, I would like to know kind of like...
Starting point is 00:20:54 Okay. We, like, heard, like, little shots, and I didn't... Like, for a second, I was like, oh, it's like, like, like, Danny, like, staring the chickens with, like, a fake gun or something like that because, like, we have six chickens and they always come to the front and we're trying to train them to stay in the back. Okay. Not that, like, I wasn't concerned, but I was like, oh, maybe it's, like, two chickens,
Starting point is 00:21:16 but then it was, like, shot after shot after shot after shot. I was like, girls, like, come over here, like, stay away from the windows and, like, and then SWAT came in, like, literally, like, hands in the air, like, I guess, you know, whatever. I don't know, I guess that's how it works, so. And then we were out, then we came out on the front door, too. Based on Aliona's words, it appears she has no clear understanding of what sparks the shooting. In reality, she knows more than she thinks. She just needs the right questions to connect the dots. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:21:49 There's a way. He says stay away from my wife, so that's got to be either somebody he is, like, either been with or is with right now. I don't know. Who has he been with? I know he was with the lady, but as well, what's her name? Kim. Okay. But as far as I know, they were like done.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Okay. So why is he showing up at your house now? That's a good question. I just, I don't understand why she would come with him, like why she would bring him there. That's kind of weird too, though. If I was having an affair, I wouldn't exactly take my husband to the person that I'm having an affair with. Sounds like maybe things didn't end there. If this guy's showing up saying that.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Great timing. Things are finally starting to make sense in the room, and it's becoming clear to detectives that O'Yuna's fiancee, Daniel, had a past affair with Matthew's one. wife, Kimberly. Yet Eliona seems clueless that the affair was still ongoing. She's convinced it ended long ago and that they were happy together again. Whether that's the actual truth remains to be seen. By now, investigators understand they're dealing with people who have secrets, and that no one involved can be taken at face value, especially the two men at the center of it all, Daniel and Matthew. So with Eliona's statement recorded, investigators wrap up the
Starting point is 00:23:14 interview and prepared to speak with Daniel's sister, Gabriela, the mother who fled the house with her terrified children when SWAT arrived. Unlike Eliona, Gabriela will prove far more aware of her brother's secret affair with Kimberly. There's a lot going on tonight and we're just trying to get to the bottom of it. This is horrifying. Horrifying this would happen on it, find our home. My mom was inside. I could see them over at his house. My brother was barbecuing. They were hanging out, girls were excited. DTE comes, we start having a conversation telling what's going on. Well, then I started hearing crazy rounds of gunshots. Like, not normal. So I look over and I just start hearing yelling. I see this white Grand Cherokee in the driveway, a lady out of the car
Starting point is 00:24:01 screaming. At that point, I had no idea who it was, what was going on. This maniac comes at me, ready to shoot me and my husband I heard the lady go no Matt no she has kids no Matt no and my husband's like what what and I dropped
Starting point is 00:24:20 to the ground I pissed myself lost my shoes everything Were you able to see where Dan came from I don't know for certain my brother didn't have my brother has a CPL he didn't have it on him obviously we were home we would think of something like that would happen I'm assuming he ran in grabbed his gun and came out
Starting point is 00:24:36 Okay. To defend himself. He normally carries a gun? He has a seat, yes. He always has his concealed pistol on him, always. This is something a crazed lunatic would do to a family. Naturally, Gabriela takes her brother's side, claiming Matthew was the aggressor,
Starting point is 00:24:55 and insisting Daniel acted purely in self-defense. However, this version of events will later be called into question once detectives finally get their hands on the CCTV footage. For now, though, Frazier shifts the conversation to Daniel's secret affair, hoping to uncover whether Daniel could have killed his own lover, worse yet, in front of his own children and family. As far as Dan goes and this fellow that shows up, have you ever seen this guy before? I have seen him once. My brother Dan and Kim, Malacom, the reason why I found out who Matt was is because I saw her, she's like, Matt, no.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And I knew that was her husband. I knew that she had relations with my brother years ago. I know that she's had a tumultuous relationship over the years with her husband. That's all that I know. She used to call me on numerous times, basically telling me, you know, what's going on with her life. I felt bad for her because I knew that she was an addict, and I know that he was an addict.
Starting point is 00:25:57 When's the last time that you've talked to her? Maybe a few months. So it's been a little bit of fun time. But she would call me from different numbers. all the time. It would never be her number because I wouldn't pick up for her number anymore. She never text you. Yeah, from different numbers again.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Because I would not pick up for her anymore. I just had her blocked. I couldn't. I didn't want to expose myself to dead anymore. I didn't think it was appropriate. My brother knew that. Like, what happened today's I know is wrong and it's inappropriate. Yeah. Highly inappropriate. Yeah, I understand.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And mortifying. And my children would be exposed to this and very disturbed. Yeah, okay. And And rightfully so, I mean, and my parents, my 80-year-old dad or my 76-year-old mom, I just, I feel like I'm in a movie right now. Gabriela leaves little room for doubt. The affair between her brother and Kimberly is, in her view, the catalyst for the entire confrontation. With that in mind, detectives conclude Gabriela's interview and begin weighing their next move. Lead Detective Frazier has more than two decades of homicide experience, and by now he has a working theory of,
Starting point is 00:27:05 of how the shooting began and what connects the two primary suspects. But one crucial detail remains unresolved. Who fired the fatal shot that ended Kimberly's life? Approximately six hours after the shooting, investigators receive a critical update. Daniel has stabilized and is asking to tell his sight of the story. An hour later, officers wheeled Daniel into the interrogation room. He appears visibly shaken and still in pain. There's a gunshot wound above his right knee and another injury on his right foot.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Just hours ago, he was bleeding inside his own home, with his family only feet away from the deadly crossfire. The whole thing lasted seconds, but in those seconds, everything changed. Detective Fraser knows that Daniel is a man with secrets. Everything he says could be a carefully crafted story, and for all they know, they might be sitting across from Kimberly's killer. Hey, how you doing? How we've seen better days? Oh, I'm sure you have.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Obviously, there's a lot of things that took place tonight, so I'm going to start by just kind of letting you, like, why don't you just tell us what happened? I was just in a girl, you know, I just got done barbecuing. Mm-hmm. You know, and next thing, you know, this white truck, I didn't know who it was at all, you know. The white truck came out, and man came out of the car.
Starting point is 00:28:34 came towards me, I didn't know who it was. You know, I had my business truck outside, I figured, you know, he wanted something, but he came to me pretty aggressive. And from that point on, like, it's just like a daze for me and he's like, you know, he like, show me his gun, you know what I'm saying? And I had my weapon on me and, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:59 I'm like, leave, leave. And next thing you know, like, you know, he's ready to fire shots at me. And that's all I remember, I swear, like, everything was, like, blank from that point on. Like, I just was, like, it just, like, I froze. I don't know. I froze.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Like, when you pointed that gun at me, like, started shooting, I just froze. I don't remember anything. Like, I just froze. According to Daniel, Matthew arrived out of nowhere and immediately started brandishing a gun on his property. But this is where the story begins to blur between self-defense and murder. because detectives are about to learn that Daniel's own actions may have set the deadly shooting in motion.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Would you be able to just kind of draw me a layout of where your garage and how your driveway is and stuff? Okay. Oh, the barbecue was right here. Because I just got on barbecue when a vert van was right here. Okay. So this car pulls up. Right in the freaking driveway, like he owned the house. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So that car pulls up. and you're outside I'm outside I'm like I'm in between the garage like inside the garage okay he comes up there stay away from my life I'm like what are you talking about saying and then all sudden it hits like a light bobby she comes out of the car and he's like you know he's branching his gun when he's walking up like he's about shoot me like what do you mean by that like he had his gun like he was pulling it up like you look like he was ready to fire He's like ready to fire and I you know he's ready to grab his gun and boom I shot one in there I'm like get the fuck out of here you shot one in there yeah because he was good gonna pull his gun out and he like he looked like he was about to leave
Starting point is 00:30:53 with the bastard started firing shots and I ran out and I you know I ran for my life at that point I'm out of bullets so then I'm running around the house he got me he's firing at me at the corner of the house I had another the firearm inside the garage. So you grab that second firearm? Yes. And what is it? What kind of gun is that? It was a clock. Okay. It was a 27. Okay. This is
Starting point is 00:31:19 the time that you need to get this out. Okay. We don't want to go down the road and you'd be like, oh, no. Everything is on surveillance camera. Okay. Everything is on surveillance camera. I'm going to tell you what I remember because after those shots were being fired at me, like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 I just don't remember anything after that point. So did he just like panicked. I panicked. When he started shooting at me, like I panicked. I just wanted him to leave. What Daniel has just revealed is exactly what investigators have been waiting for. During the house search, officers observed multiple cameras positioned around the property, pointing directly towards where the shooting occurred. Detective Frazier knows he needs access to that footage, but he must wait for the right moment to secure Daniel's cooperation. Up to this point, Daniel has presented himself as nothing more than a victim, claiming he fired only a warning shot, yet something about his story isn't adding up. Throughout the interrogation, he never once mentions the other person in the car, Kimberly.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Detectives already know about the secret affair from speaking with Daniel's relatives, and they're not about to let him off the hook. So Frazier begins to apply pressure, forcing Daniel to drop the act and expose one of his scenes. Well, let's get into a little more detail leading up to the point where you froze. Well, I saw the woman come out of the car and, you know, I had, I'd known this woman, you know what I mean? So, so here's, I'm going to tell you right now, Dan, some of the questions that were asking you, right? We might already know the answers to some of them, right? And I'm not trying, I'm not trying to play games with you and I'm not trying to act like I know something you don't, right? trying to go home and get this done as possible.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So here's the deal, Dan. You know, obviously Kim was somebody that you knew, right? And you knew her on a personal level? Can you explain that to me? I've known this girl for quite some time. Ever since I met my wife,
Starting point is 00:33:26 I've just parted at Lee. Okay. You know. I'm trying to put this together. We did get the information. We know that you had relations with her. Let's go back. I've had had, right? But what I'm trying to figure out is why tonight.
Starting point is 00:33:42 That's what I'm trying to figure out. Right, Danny, what happened recently? Why would this come to fruition tonight? I swear on everything, I have no idea, because that's what my wife is telling me what is going on. I don't have any calls from, like, I don't call her, period. Now, I know in the past, your now fiancé has a location, yes.
Starting point is 00:34:06 with her. Do you know if maybe these two started talking recently or is she alluded to that that maybe do you know if Kim knows that you're having a baby? It's just Tuesday night, 9 o'clock at night, why now? I don't know. That's the same thing I'm trying to get at because I haven't done a long time. It's already been two years. I was done. As soon as I met this girl, I was done I'm changing my life around that. It's evident that detectives are onto something here. Daniel insists he hasn't seen or texted Kimberly for two years, something that can easily be verified once they access his phone.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Though Daniel's phone holds something far more important to the investigation, CCTV footage. But once detectives decide to ask Daniel for access, his answer will raise serious suspicion to say the least. How can I access your phone? Well, why you guys need my phone, though? Well, this is what's going to happen. We have your phone.
Starting point is 00:35:19 We also have your fiancé's phone. We're going to get the information one way or another. The other part of it, too, is it just goes to the other part of this story, right? Because obviously there's a couple sides to this story. You got your side. Got his side, right? Obviously, his take on things is different than yours, right? It's going to be, right?
Starting point is 00:35:38 You're presenting us with your version. We have another version. guess what we've got cameras that caught it all we need to look at that if we don't get to see these cameras I need to speak to somebody to tell me to direct me to the right route guys you gotta understand
Starting point is 00:35:57 I want to help but I have to have my loader what kind of cameras do you have I have ring cameras and they're surrounded you said it caught the whole thing right and it should have yes I know what you're doing Danny you want to watch this first and make sure that it all adds up
Starting point is 00:36:12 No, no, I'm telling you guys 100% truth, guys. Honestly, God, I have nothing to hide. I want to help you guys, but now, like... Are you worried about it? Absolutely not. This man came to my house. I mean, this man came to my own. Are you into some other illegal activity that you're worried about on your phone? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Like, I know you have a grow. I have my license for it. I got to speak to somebody. If I could speak to somebody, Danny, real quick. To see what the house... Real quick, bud. I want to, I do want to let you know something though in this situation.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Kim, she's dead. So she was struck by a bullet and she's dead. So, I mean, I don't, I apparently nobody told you that. What the hell happened if you did anybody, did anybody tell you that, Danny? Okay. So maybe this will shed a little bit of light of why we have to do our due diligence here because somebody lost their life. He came to my house. I did nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I did nothing wrong. I did nothing wrong. They came to my house, man. I had my nieces and this guy is shooting at me. Fucking 17 fucking shots. Needless to say, this is not what investigators were hoping for. Even after Detective Frazier brings up the marijuana grow operation in the basement as leverage to encourage cooperation,
Starting point is 00:37:44 Daniel quickly clarifies that everything is legal, and refuses to grant access to his phone without an attorney present, effectively forcing them to end the interview. With Daniel's refusal, detectives become more certain than ever that there's something on that phone he doesn't want them to see. Yet, the only other way to access it is through a search warrant, something far easier said than done. Now, it's Daniel's word against Matthews,
Starting point is 00:38:11 a development that complicates the investigation significantly. The CCTV footage could have been crue. crucial during Matthew's interview. With multiple cameras around the house recording 24-7, the answer to who fired the fatal shot lies somewhere in that footage. Despite this setback, detectives settle on a strategy. They decide to hold Matthew overnight, time that may pressure him to break and reveal how the shooting really unfolded when the interview begins. In the meantime, officers obtain a search warrant for Matthew and Kimberly's home and head there, hoping to find anything that could help guide his interrogation.
Starting point is 00:38:49 When officers arrive at the Molokone residents, they're initially met with signs of wealth and comfort, but that impression fades quickly once they step into the basement. No. Only pause in there right now. No, but there's definitely signs of stuff being thrown and shattered. There was definitely a struggle in his. It's clear that the basement was the aftermath of a violent altercation,
Starting point is 00:39:27 Officers also discover cocaine residue and a straw, suggesting that Matthew may have been heavily under the influence of drugs and alcohol during the shooting. As they continue the search, officers locate multiple gun safes in the basement and elsewhere in the house. Upstairs, in the primary bedroom closet, they find a small, clear, plastic bag containing clean. Taken together, the findings paint a picture of a home stocked with firearms and narcotics, details that will be crucial during Matthew's interview. With the scene documented, officers relay their findings to Detective Frazier, who decides it's time to speak with Matthew. He's been restless for hours about Kimberly's condition, still unaware of her tragic death. Is she okay?
Starting point is 00:40:14 I wasn't out there, sir. You can't find out for me? I told you, we couldn't tell you, sir. Oh, my God. No. God, help her. God, please. She does deserve this. What's up?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Hey. How's my wife? All right. Here's what's going to happen. Is she okay? Matt? Yeah. If I unhandcuff you, you're going to behave yourself? Yes, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Okay? We don't have any issues there? When I unhandcuff you, I want you to have a seat, okay, partner? Oh, boy, it's not good? No, it's not good, bud. Is she alive? Is she alive? Hold on. Relax. Sit down. Is my wife alive?
Starting point is 00:41:05 We're going to talk real quick here, okay? Hold on one second. Oh my God. Tell me. Please. She didn't make it. Oh, no! No!
Starting point is 00:41:20 No! No! Oh my God, no. No! Oh my God. Was she shun? Oh my God. I'm sorry, I was next to her trying to get the f*** out of there as these sh-h-lusses were dry every first.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Oh my God. Oh my God. What is he done? Matthew appears devastated, unable to control his emotions. Yet to Detective Frazier, something about his reaction feels off. Detectives like Frazier are trained never to take ever to take anything at face value, carefully watching for even the smallest inconsistencies in a suspect's behavior. And in the moments that follow, Frazier's instincts would prove correct, as Matthew's behavior is about to shift completely.
Starting point is 00:42:19 What did this happen? Psycho. That, oh my God. Did he make it? That's why my wife's death is because I'm a horrible shot. psychopath. Do you want to tell me about it? Sure. This guy and my wife have been having an affair for nine and a half years. I found out about it six and a half years ago. And I found out about it about it again 45 days ago. We were going to the house for her to tell him, stop calling me, I'm done with you. He's engaged too, you know. He's cheating on his fiancee, she's cheating on me, you know. She was going to end it.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Guys, I'll go with you. Make sure it's safe there because he's got him and the girl there. After his emotional breakdown, Matthew suddenly regains composure, prompting Detective Frazier to question whether the reaction was genuine or calculated. But once he's calm, Frazier asks Matthew to walk him through the shooting step by step. It's a strategic decision to lock him into a specific version of events, especially because Matthew has absolutely no idea the entire confrontation was captured on surveillance cameras. As soon as I get out of the car, as soon as I get out of the car,
Starting point is 00:43:47 he comes out of the garage. Well, like this, like a police officer, right at my face. And I put my hands up. And I say, whoa, bro. And she screams at him, Danny. And I said, stop with my wife. As soon as I said that, he sh-h-knit at me. I ducked around to the back of this car, this car here, and I pulled my firearm and I started to sh-down.
Starting point is 00:44:12 He ran this way. I said, Kim, get in the car! We got in the car, we were backing out, and he sh-my wife. And the car stopped working. I couldn't get it in gear. So I got in behind, I got behind the car and I called 911, that's it. That's what fast. When he shed my wife, the car like, stopped.
Starting point is 00:44:34 stopped somehow and I got out, he was sh**, I got out of the car, and I got out of the car and I I was shriek back again and he ran around the side of the house and then I didn't see him no more. And then I went to my wife and I had behind the back of the car. Why wouldn't you do that? Like she went there to talk to him and this guy comes out like goddamn Rambo firing his, I had my hands in the air with no weapon. My clip was concealed. Office, detective. My gun was in its holster and concealed.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I was like this. As expected, Matthew's story is the complete opposite of Daniels. He insinuates that he acted in self-defense and claims that Kimberly's death was simply because he's a bad shot. Though one detail in his account immediately stands out, Matthew insists his weapon was concealed the entire time. Yet, when he reenacts the moment and raises his hands, the detective can clearly see that the gun would have been visible. But before Detective Frazier can press him on
Starting point is 00:45:39 that inconsistency, he is called out of the room with a critical update. The CCTV footage has just come in. Daniel has finally agreed to grant access to the footage, either out of guilt or confidence that it will clear his name. So detectives immediately begin combing through the recordings, and it doesn't take long before cracks begin to form in both men's stories. At 9.30 p.m., Matthew's car arrives at the property, and at first, events appear to follow his version of the story. The first gunshot hurt in the background is fired by Daniel as a warning, just as both men described in their interviews. But in the minutes that follow, things begin to unfold very differently from what either man claimed, and it will determine which of them spends the rest of his life behind bars.
Starting point is 00:46:30 The chaos, as both men exchange gunfire, a single bullet tragically strikes Kimberly. And although Matthew was clearly the aggressor, the fatal shot came from Daniel's weapon, complicating the investigation and making it harder to determine who is truly at fault. Armed with this new evidence, Detective Frazier returns to the interrogation room, ready to apply more pressure, knowing the CCTV footage has completely dismantled. told Matthew's version of events. And in the next few moments, Matthew would unknowingly dig himself
Starting point is 00:48:06 into a grave. Were you guys drinking today? Yeah. Okay. How about drugs? Were you doing any drinks? What were you doing? A little cocaine.
Starting point is 00:48:20 So you're doing cocaine marijuana, doing some drinking, and you decide to go up there with her. You're f***ing pissed. Uh, no. You weren't mad. some guys boinkin your wife and you're not mad about it
Starting point is 00:48:37 I've known about this for six and a half years I was mad and you're told it was cut off right and then today you're told it's not cut off 45 days ago I was told it's not cut off and you're saying your wife was driving
Starting point is 00:48:51 and your wife was in that driver's seat every time you guys went to leave went to do whatever you're saying now that your wife was in the driver's seat yes she drove there and she got in the driver's seat and put it in reverse. To back up. Correct.
Starting point is 00:49:08 But the car wouldn't, what happened with the car? I don't know. If we hit something, it was smoking. Maybe he sh-hotted, I don't know. It wouldn't move. What do you mean you were, what is that? I had it in reverse, and it felt like it was stuck, either in some mud. It just, it wasn't going.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And then it started smoking from the hood. And when I saw that, I got out of the car. So you were, it was like, was it like, you had it in gear, but you were stopping on the gas. Kim was she fell over to the side. He's at us at this point. I hop from the passenger into the driver, turn it, and it won't go. And I'm like this, you know, and it won't go. So then finally I put it in parking and get out, and I go behind.
Starting point is 00:50:02 the vehicle and that's where I called you. In a not so unexpected turn, Matthew admits to taking beforehand something detectives already knew after searching his house. It's at this moment that Detective Frazier would finally confront Matthew with the one piece of evidence he can't talk his way out of. I don't know anybody that's going to buy this. I wasn't mad. I went there like all cool, all great.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Just thought it was going to be a, you know. I'm sorry but I don't believe that for a second Matt and and I don't think anybody else does either because It just doesn't make any sense well that's gonna be easy to prove your Theory wrong go check for in the garage or a bullet hole in the in the in the garage Also the cameras okay there you go beautiful got cameras he's got cameras? He's got cameras? Does he? I can't tell you all that Wow Hope he does. You better, you'll look for those, correct?
Starting point is 00:51:06 We gather all the facts. Okay, good. Everybody's got a story, right, to tell? I hope he's got cameras. You know, the problem is, is that you drove up there in that driveway, and that started this whole chain of events. What's illegal about that? One of the cameras, you know, those ringed doorbell ones, one of the cameras was pointed right where you guys were.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Okay, good. And you're telling me right now, this is true. You're saying this exact story is true, what you described to me. And that's it. You're not. Leaving anything out.
Starting point is 00:51:45 That's how quick and that's what happened. I don't know how this is going to play out. I really don't. The truth for bills. Hopefully it does. With the evidence laid bare, Detective Frazier concludes the interview. Now he and his team need to do their due,
Starting point is 00:52:02 diligence before making the hardest decision of the entire case. Who, if anyone, should be charged for Kimberly's death? In the days that follow, recorded jail calls capture Matthew sounding confident he can beat the case, insisting the truth will clear his name. Hi. Love you. I'm going to get all this situated. I'm going to get home to you soon, okay?
Starting point is 00:52:37 All right. Thank you. Okay, good. I got the truth, I got God, and I got the best lawyer in the state of Michigan. So I'm going to get home to you guys soon, all right? All right, Dad, sounds good. As Matthew waits in jail, detectives and prosecutors continue investigating to determine which of the two men will ultimately be held accountable for Kimberly's death.
Starting point is 00:53:00 On paper, the answer isn't obvious. The fatal bullet came from Daniel's gun, but the CCTV shows Matthew initiating the confrontation. Detectives and prosecutors debate two options. Charge both men and let a jury decide, or treat Daniel as a homeowner defending himself and his family and place the legal responsibility solely on Matthew. In the end, they make the call. Under Michigan's self-defense law,
Starting point is 00:53:28 even if Daniel's bullet killed Kimberly, Matthew created the deadly crossfire and therefore bears the legal responsibility for her death. With this, Matthew is formally charged, with attempted murder for shooting at Daniel, voluntary manslaughter for Kimberly's death, and multiple counts of felony firearm. In the weeks that follow, investigators uncover a darker side of the marriage. Multiple witnesses describe a pattern of alleged abuse between Matthew and Kimberly,
Starting point is 00:53:57 including physical violence and intimidation. That context offers detectives insight into why Kimberly may have gone along with an armed trip to her lover's house instead of walking away. Two years later, in May, 24, Matthew's jury trial begins. During the trial, the two sides present very different versions of the same shootout. Matthews lawyers argue self-defense, claiming Daniel was the one who came out armed and aggressive, forcing Matthew to fire back and protect himself in Kimberly. They portray him as a devastated husband and a father who snapped under emotional strain.
Starting point is 00:54:32 The prosecution frames Matthew as a jealous husband who armed himself, consumed drugs and alcohol, and drove to Daniel's home, looking for a confrontation. After an eight-day trial, the jury rejects Matthew's full self-defense claim and finds him guilty. He is sentenced to a maximum of 40 years, with parole possible after roughly 18 years. Meanwhile, Daniel Giannone, the man who fired the fatal shot, is ultimately released without charges.

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