Dr. Insanity - A Husband Realizes His Wife Is The Murderer
Episode Date: December 1, 2025What happens when a husband realizes his own wife is the murderer? Subscribe for More! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
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I can't see her doing something like that.
She's super intelligent.
I can't.
This is the moment Zach realized his wife Ashley
was a secret murderer.
Police found Taylor Wright, a friend of his wife,
lying dead on his property.
Police suspects Ashley was the murderer,
but Zach refuses to believe it.
Little did he know,
he was about to get the shock of his life
in the interrogation room.
Can you tell me how you came to know Taylor?
Through working PI cases.
Okay.
She'd come over to our house every now and then.
She met my wife.
They became friends.
Did you guys ever have a falling out?
Never.
From doing this job for so long,
I just,
like I would just pick her up,
pick up little lies from her.
Stuff just didn't start seeming right.
She would disappear for days.
You couldn't get her on the phone.
Greg and I would try to call her.
You couldn't get her on the phone.
Taylor had been known to go missing for days at a time,
but this time was different.
She hadn't been seen for over a month before she was found.
Early on, cops believed her disappearance
was nothing out of the ordinary,
but she'd left everything at home,
and what little text she sent to her friends
were in language she wouldn't normally use.
I mean, I'm sure now you've read the news and everything.
You kind of know the date that we're talking about.
Have you had a chance to go back and pinpoint where you were on the 8th of September?
It's very, I can't remember shit, but I've tried to do the very best I can so I could tell you all the best I can.
I went to the bank yesterday to pull my statement.
I know I ate lunch at the seafood place at 9 Mile in Pine Forest.
I ate there.
And I remember eating by myself, and I remember Ash not being able to make it because she was tied up with work.
Taylor was last seen on the 8th of September, so Zach attempts to recount what he was doing that day.
Given that he used his debit card to purchase food in the area, it's likely that his story is true.
What's interesting, though, is that he mentioned he was out on his own as his wife was busy with work.
It seems that he fully believes this to be the truth.
And while he knows his wife has been questioned about the murder,
he doesn't know that she's currently the number one suspect.
The cops aren't trying to learn more about the case.
case they're trying to determine if Zach had a hand in the murder or at the very
least turn him against his own wife do you know anything about this money that
Taylor had given you all no absolutely not she's never given me anything I've
never got anything like from that no okay do you do you know anything about your
finances no to be honest I give her when like when I work a case or like and I got a
settlement for my attorney, I handed straight to Ash. She takes here everything.
The money the detective is referring to here is a sum of $34,000 that Taylor had given to Ashley
for safekeeping. Taylor was going through a divorce and wanted the money away from her own
accounts. But instead of putting it in a safety deposit box, as promised, records show Ashley put it
into her own accounts. By the time Taylor wanted it back, she'd already spent all of it. Coincidentally,
Taylor only asked for it back on the 8th of September.
If it's not already obvious by now,
Zach is a very caring person who obviously trusted his wife a lot.
So far, he's provided solid answers to where he was when Taylor disappeared
and his involvement in the couple's finances,
equating to almost none.
But the detectives have to rule out any involvement whatsoever.
So they decide to discuss where the body was found.
The property up on Britt Road,
And that's owned by her aunt and uncle.
Have you ever been out there?
Yeah.
When's the last time you think you were out there?
The last time I went out there is when I traded my four-wheeler for a side-by-side.
And that's the last time I've been.
Before that, I couldn't tell you.
But when was that?
A couple months back.
Your phone number, the 554 number, do you always keep that on you?
Yeah, I reckon.
Do you ever loan it out to anybody?
No.
Okay.
No.
Would you ever loan it to anybody?
No.
Do you remember Ashley ever using it, taking it with her?
No.
Never.
Okay.
Did it ever get lost or stolen or anything and get replaced?
No, not that I ever told.
Okay.
This might seem like a random question, but phone records actually played a huge part in uncovering the truth in this case.
Not only did they show Ashley on the part.
property Taylor was found dead at on the 8th, but they also showed Taylor's phone at a wedding
Ashley attended the very next day. But Taylor was never seen at the wedding or anywhere else
after that date. Detectives here are just trying to confirm that if suspicious activity was
discovered from Zach's phone records, there would be no way to argue that it wasn't him
in control of the phone. But remember, Zach still has very little idea surrounding the true
nature of this case. He doesn't know how much evidence the cops have against his wife. All he's
doing is defending himself and providing answers that'll hopefully solve the case. So given
his compliance so far, the detectives decide to try and question him about some more physical
evidence. Do you own any 9mm handguns? What kinds? My Glock? Just one or?
Um, yeah, I've got a lot of guns. A lot. Um, I think one glott nine.
What model?
19.
Okay.
Do you know how Taylor died?
Yeah.
For Ackerman told me that the girl was shot and he got it, he heard that from Mulchand.
So Ackerman told you and he got it from Moulchin?
Yeah.
Okay.
Did he elaborate on anything else?
He just said that they thought the girl was shot.
Okay.
Did you ever buy Ashley a gun or anything of that nature?
Man, over the years, um, yeah.
I bought her a 380 one time.
What kind?
PPK.
Okay.
And does she carry a firearm?
I haven't seen her one in quite a while.
Not at all.
Mm-hmm.
Do you own a 38 air weight?
Yes.
I mean, she used to, the last thing I ever remember seeing her with was a 38 airway.
was a 38 air weight. And that was, I haven't seen her with that and I don't know how long.
I mean, I'm my answer to it. Did you kill or participate in the death? Absolutely not.
I would have this question. Okay. Did you kill or participate or do you have any knowledge?
Zero, Jason. Absolutely none. I don't want to be nowhere near it, no, nothing involved with it,
nothing. I know nothing about it. The detectives are now trying to ramp up the pressure slightly.
Zach has seemed extremely comfortable up to this point, and they're likely just trying to test whether that's because of the more casual nature of the interview so far,
or if it's because he genuinely is innocent.
However, Zach stays calm, and his body language confirms this.
As the pressure mounts, Zach doesn't lean back, cross his arms, or really become closed off in any way as a guilty person may.
Instead, he leans forward, maintains eye contact, and his statements are clear and concise.
His posture here is one of confidence and cooperation.
His feet are flat on the ground, and he's leaning towards the detectives proving that he feels safe around them,
and that he's got nothing to hide.
In fact, this is just one of two different positions Zach has assumed throughout the interrogation.
The other being a more casual, upright position with his hands and legs open.
Zach is doing everything he can to appear innocent, and yet the pressure continues to mount.
What do you think happened to, Taylor?
I couldn't tell you, Jason.
I mean, I don't, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, nobody deserves to ever get anything
happened to them like that whatsoever.
I don't know, buddy.
I don't know what happened to her.
And, you know, I'm asking you,
do, as this investigation continues,
whether it's text,
phone records, computers, financials, is there going to be anything that hymns you up or ties you up to that?
No, absolutely nothing.
Well, not just being involved in the actual murder, but as far as, you know, afterwards,
helping and conceal.
If any person in this world was like, hey, Zach, come help me do something.
I would run from that motherfucker as fast as I could.
Let me just,
hell, it's all over the news.
Yeah.
You've read it.
Yeah, I've read it, right?
And I'm trying to swallow it and figure it all.
I mean, it's like, it's terrible.
But you've read it.
So you know at least some of the details.
Just based upon that and your knowledge of the job that we do
and the job that you used to do,
What's your thought?
Feelings aside.
Just logically.
I can't.
I can't see her doing something like that.
I mean, she's super intelligent, you know?
She's got a criminal, I mean, a, um...
Master's turn.
Yeah, or a bat.
Is it Masters or Bad?
I don't know, one of the two.
And, uh, that's just sloppy.
I mean, that's sloppy shit.
I can't see her doing that.
There's obviously a lot going on in Zach's head right now.
He obviously doesn't want to believe his wife killed someone,
but his years of experience as a PI,
coupled with all the evidence against his wife,
logically have to be convincing him otherwise.
Not only were there the bank statements and the cell phone records,
but Ashley was even caught on camera at a hardware store,
purchasing the exact same type of cement that was used to fill Taylor's grave.
At this point, though, the detectives have seen all they need to.
Zach takes a minute to discuss a few things with his lawyer,
and he signs a search warrant allowing them to obtain all his cell phone records.
Eventually, Zach is cleared of any wrongdoing and is allowed to return home.
His wife, however, was a different story.
We, the jury find the defendant, Ashley MacArthur, guilty of first degree,
premeditated murder with a firearm as charged in the indictment.
Ashley MacArthur was sentenced to life in prison with a mandatory sentence of 25 years
and is now serving her time away from her husband behind bars.
