Dr. Insanity - Cops Follow Girls To Their Mother's Dead Body

Episode Date: December 30, 2025

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You all right, babe? The door was locked in the room. Yeah. And... Okay, can you sit right here for me? These are the two daughters of 28-year-old Ashley Fish. In just a few seconds, they're going to lead the officer to their mother's lifeless body inside the bathroom. Eggs were burning and she's in there.

and as the oldest daughter bravely guides her siblings to safety police are still unsure whether this was self-inflicted or if there's a killer on the loose but they'd eventually discover that Ashley's killer is closer to home than anybody expected pulling investigators into one of the most tragic domestic dispute cases the state of Louisiana has ever seen is she alive? No, she's not

they're doing it on her after sure I wanted you to leave. Get out there. Leave the girls alone. I said, I just shoot you. I don't even... I don't even know. We've created a GoFundMe for these children,

starting with a $10,000 donation of our own. If you'd like to help, more details are in the description. On a quiet April evening in the small city of Derritter, Louisiana, police receive a terrifying 911 call. But what would shock the dispatcher is the eerie calmness of the caller. 4-911. Where's your emergency? Hi, I need a report a crime. Hey, what's the address?

265 Northridge Drive, Cinderritor, Louisiana. Stay on the line while I get Derrida, police home with us. Thank you. At this moment, the caller hangs up, leaving officers worried he might be an immediate danger. Officer Josh Stanford rushes to the reported address, unaware that he's only moments away from discovering a scene more disturbing than he could ever imagine. Okay, can you sit right here for me? Is anybody in there? Um, no, my sisters are inside right there.

Okay. Emily, that's why mommy. The eggs were burning and she's in there. Okay, y'all come in here. Come in here. No, I don't want to go. Come here. Stay in here.

Stay in here. 254, City. The woman has a single bullet wound to the right side of her head and appears to have been dead for some time. yet the male caller is nowhere to be found. But then the officer remembers, there are still four young girls nearby who have just lost their mother. Come here.

Come here. Come here. Come help me. Come help me. Do you know these children? Yes, they're a neighbor. Okay. Yeah, like a mad here.

You got parents here? Yes. Huh? Can you take them to a secure place for me? Was there anybody else here, bud? I don't think so. I don't know. And an unimaginable act of courage,

the eldest daughter guides her younger siblings to safety, leading them to the neighbor's house. The neighbor bravely takes in the four traumatized children who would later turn out to be instrumental to the investigation. Officers head back inside to try to locate the caller, completely unaware that he's the one who pulled the trigger. Is there one victim or two? I'm at Northridge.

I said you do, I have one victim or two? So we need to clear the rest of the house out. I wanted the impression there was a male here too. See, please Go right Police Department Click See, when the glass was on the phone with them

I was under the impression There was a male subject that had been shocked Look out in the backyard What's that I smell? Oh, they cook? Oh, okay Where did she have?

She's in that bathroom, you know. Oh, here. Everything else is cleared. Everything else is clear. Officers find no one else inside, leaving them still in the dark about who the caller really is. They'd further look into the victim's injuries and quickly realize there was almost no imminent struggle,

leaving officers questioning whether the injuries may have been self-inflicted. But before anything else, they still need to identify the victim, and this is when the officer would make a devastating discovery. one that would turn this into a far more personal case. I don't, I didn't want to wait till you got here before I started trying to find an ID or anything. Let me. Hey, you want to turn a stove off? Yes.

Ashley Fish. Nobody else. You said kids were in the head? They're across the street. Ashley Fish. I'm assuming young based off of what I'm talking. based off of what I'm seeing here. Did you?

Yeah. So she's from East Borger? Yeah. They moved away. She came to Josh Fish? No, I don't think so. She's your age, though? Yeah, we graduated together, so we're about the time.

Lead Detective Cooley immediately recognizes the name, 28-year-old Ashley Fish. He knew Ashley as a Derritter local. someone who married her high school sweetheart and had only recently moved back to Louisiana from Texas. Determined to find answers and uncover who murdered his friend, he turns to the neighbors for more information. Meanwhile, other officers begin reviewing neighborhood CCTV footage searching for anyone

who may have been at the house besides Ashley and the children, and they're about to discover that someone else was indeed inside, someone who is already on the run. Detective Coole, I have a chair called me. Jeff Brown, nice to meet your son. Hey, y'all mind if I just got a couple of questions. Yeah, you can't ask me anything, but I really didn't see anything. The only one that saw anything? He was mowing.

He was mowing out here. What's your buddy? Detective Coole. Nice to meet you. I heard you kind of saw some stuff just a little bit. Not much, but you've seen some, uh, something happened there. Something happened next door. Uh, well, I was just not a line.

And then I saw, um, like, the car of the car of the driver leave. Lining up with what the boys saw, another neighbor offers ring camera footage showing a black truck leaving Ashley's house just minutes before the 911 call. Desperate to learn who was driving that truck, officers turned to the next neighbor. Unaware, they're about to speak with the victim's best friend. and is someone who knows exactly who the driver is. What's that? The girls are at my house.

He tells what's going on. It's not good. Is she alive? No, she's not. Was she shot? Yes. She was out here earlier when, about 5 o'clock or so. I saw her out here.

Everything seemed fine. There was a truck. She has a significant other. She's going through a divorce. And they're legally separated, But he was here. The black truck was here. Yes, ma'am.

Do you think he shot her? Well, I can't, I can't tell you a whole lot. Okay, I got it. So as long as the children are safe with you for now, we'll take care of it from there. As far as I know her, gosh, I'm assuming that he's. Okay, Tyler was the person that was here. I don't know if that was his truck. He usually drives a black truck.

And then her husband's name is John, John Fish. She would go on to identify their main suspect as 34-year-old Tyler Durichowski. Ashley's new boyfriend. Detectives immediately begin digging into his history, gathering anything they can find, and working to locate him as quickly as possible. But just as they're about to begin the manhunt, another 911 call comes in.

And it's from the killer himself. Hi, I need to turn myself into the police. Okay. I don't know how to do this. Are you wanted? Do you have an act of warrant? No, I just committed a crime. Okay, what crime did you commit?

I shot somebody. Okay, where are you located? I'm at Burke's outlet in Derritter. I'm in the parking lot, and I just am going to wait here to get picked up. Okay, who did you shoot? A woman. Okay, what is her name? Ashley Fish.

Officers rushed to the address he gave an empty parking lot. Still baffled as to why he confessed and why it took him so long to come forward. Knowing he likely killed a woman in front of her children, they brace themselves, fully expecting anything to go wrong at any moment or even an ambush. The suspect is going to be in first parking lot. Your vehicle. Okay, so the easiest way to do this is sit down on your foot. And just turn your leg in, okay?

10-4. 1097. Okay, I'm good if y'all want to go with this one. With the main suspect arrested, officers have no idea the investigation is moments away from taking another unexpected turn. When they search his vehicle, they find no weapons. But they do find multiple prescription drugs, vials of testosterone, and syringes. To their surprise, Tyler seems unusually calm for someone who just took a life. And it would quickly become obvious that this calm, controlled demeanor is part of a plan,

a plan to get away with murder. If you're still comfortable talking to me, can you tell me a little bit about what happened to him? This woman and I had gotten an altercation last night. Things were kind of falling out between the two of us, just relationally, and I was getting ready to move back to Oregon. So she pulled out, she had a gun in her drawer. She loaded it, and was pointing it at me, and we started fighting, and it went off. Tyler insists he shot Ashley in self-defense after she pulled the pistol on him, immediately complicating the investigation.

Once he's brought into the station, officers relay this information to the team at the scene who would begin searching for anything that might support his claim. And unexpectedly, they do find one piece of evidence in Tyler's favor, the murder weapon itself. Here's what I've got right now. I know you got a lot of information coming in. Cameron has got the suspect. Tyler Gubowski over at Park Terrace.

He gave his cell phone without any problems. And he told you all that he did. Yeah. They see the hair in it? I've called in the serial number. It's going to be a Smith & Wesson. She's been here for a minute? I had to guess, I mean, because she's still having some coming out of the wound.

She's still pretty warm, and I had that I guess I'd between 45 minutes and an hour and 20. Was that sitting right there? Yes. All right. So once they run the script, we'll back out, we'll get a certain point in five. We're going to be able to get a 40-gillard.

Detectives still find no evidence of a struggle, but they do discover something unexpected. After running the gun's serial number, it comes back not to Tyler, but to Ashley herself, meaning his version of events may not be entirely false. And with that, investigators begin to grasp just how little physical evidence

actually ties Tyler to the shooting. They then finish processing the scene, send Ashley's body for autopsy, and her phone for forensic examiners to be unlocked. Shortly afterwards, the grandparents arrive at the scene to pick up the four traumatized children into their care. It's at this point that it becomes clear. The oldest daughter witnessed something

she will wish she never had. I've got some gray. And some strawberries. The one you want to talk to is Raleigh. Yeah, she supposedly told my wife that she saw something and she didn't want to talk about it. Hey, my baby. Hey, my baby. Pop-poles.

Bye-bye. Bye, babe. Here, I'm going to pick you up. Bye, Alexis. This brings a season. small sense of relief to the officers, knowing the children are finally away from the horrors inside. But now comes the most difficult part, calling Ashley's ex-husband, John, and informing him that she is dead. Lead Detective Cooley asks John to come to the station

for questioning as soon as possible. And while Tyler anxiously waits for his chance to speak, detectives make a deliberate decision to start with John instead. But the longer Tyler waits, the more agitated he becomes. And by the time they will finally sit down with him, he will snap. I've never had someone do that to me. I've never had someone get that mad at me that they load a weapon. One hour after Ashley's deceased body was discovered, John arrives at the station. John explains that he and Ashley were together for over a decade. They had their first child young and went on to raise four beautiful daughters. For the detective, one question matters most. What does John

think of Tyler? Is he capable of hurting Ashley, or was he simply in the wrong place at the wrong time? But before that, something else weighs heavily on John. He still has to explain to his daughters why they will never hear their mother's voice again.

I just want to let him know that she's no longer with us. Mom's no longer with us, you know? She's an angel now. Yeah. the six-year-old and a four-year-old, they're kind of like, oh, she's an angel. They're going to talk a little bit about it, and they're more concerned about how she's flying and everything, you know. Right.

I don't know what she's saying, and the death's got me real been in that shape, you know. On that, devastating note, the detective would shift the conversation to the final moments leading up to Ashley's death. Tragically, Ashley seemed to sense that Tyler might harm her and just moments. before she died, she would make her final cry for help. When I see that, he's calling what runs in my head and it's great.

We got some bows. Bull crap. We got some bull crap. They're in some kind of argument and they're trying to drag me into this. I don't want to be part of your drama. I don't want to be part of his drama. Nothing in the past has ever felt

like there was anybody in danger. Talk to my kids. The kids never tell me anything's going bad around the house, so I'm not really feeling too in and through all this time, you know. I text back. I'm not trying to get in y'all's drama. That's when she texts.

He won't leave. I know. As soon as I got that, when I actually looked and seen that he's not leaving, I called. She's like, hello. And the first thing I thought, what's going on?

He's mad because he's got to leave. And I said, are my kids okay? Are kids safe? She said, yes. Because I wasn't a little concerned, but I wasn't like super. I'm just ready for him to leave, but hung up.

And then I texted her, said, told him the kids, please. at 6.55. I just couldn't get a hold of her. And I was like, this is weird. This is just, you know, it was just odd. This is the moment. At 6.55 p.m., John lost all contact with Ashley and with it, the hope of ever rebuilding a future with her. Shortly thereafter, Detective Cooley wraps up his interview with John, who has made one thing clear. Ashley was a loving mother, incapable of harming anyone, and she deserves justice. Still not ready to begin Tyler's interrogation, fully aware that physical evidence against him

is alarmingly weak, the detective instead brings in Ashley's other relatives to give their statements, hoping to better understand Tyler's character and whether he truly is a cold-blooded murderer. And it doesn't take long for one thing to become clear. Every one of them, deeply distrusted Tyler, to the point of even threatening his life, fearing he might one day snap and hurt Ashley. You know, I did threaten him. You know, I wanted him to leave.

Get out there, leave the girls alone. You know, I said, I'd just shoot you, you know, but I didn't, you know. And I went home, and my wife and my daughter, you know, they talk some sense and, you know, but, I mean, thoughts crossed my mind hundreds of times now, you know. If I had carried that out, I know it's bad, but they'd had the moment. He's there. out and I think you shook my hand and I'm like, you know, hey, Tyler

and he's going to meet you and whatnot. He just goes straight in the door and picks up Ashley's guitar and goes and hikes his leg up on the damn trampoline and starts looking at the moon and playing guitar and I'm like Ashley, what the fuck is he doing? Can we just go inside? I don't want to hear this print play or something.

You know something. He stops and he come over there to pull us apart and I just rear back and punch him in the side of the head. And I had told her he needs to go. You know, he needs get this done and get it done, get him on the road. You know, last couple of weeks she told me she had no her decision. He did have to go.

And this time it was for good. She said, I will be alone. And then this other guy, I mean, and I talked with my wife about it. I said, I don't understand why somebody that supposedly has got their living already set. You know, they ain't even got to work for a living to start seeing somebody that has four kids. He has no kids. I said, the only thing I can think of is maybe he's a damn sure. I said, that sounds suspicious to me, you know.

It quickly becomes clear to the detective that Ashley's relatives all wish she had stayed with John instead of Tyler, a walking red flag fully capable of snapping at any moment. But everything else investigators have is still circumstantial. Still, there's hope. Police did find some concerning items in his car. Multiple anabolic drugs known to affect moves. judgment and irritability. However, even with these findings, detectives are grasping its draws. Yet, with time slipping away, Detective Coley knows he can't wait any longer. It's time to come

face to face with their killer, who, by this point, has been waiting for hours, growing increasingly impatient to speak. With the right lawyer, he has a real chance to walk free. Without one, a single wrong word could now cost him his freedom for love. And for Detective Cooley, this isn't just another case. Ashley was his friend, someone he had known for years. Now he has to sit across from the man who has already confessed to killing her. Okay, if I record, it's just helping to keep everything in track. My biggest thing is, is I want to know who you are, because that's very important.

We need to know who Ashley is, that's very important. it's not just the events of what happened tonight it's the whole totality of history with you guys because that's going to help best explain everything that led up to where we're at I'm going to tell you that you remember the saying the truth will set you free the truth will set you free in here it's up to you I can't make you

I would love to know we would all love to know just for the sake of you and for the sake Ashley obviously I mean, I feel like giving a statement just because I'm here. I don't know how long we wait for a lawyer to get here or whatever, but I just wanted to talk about what happened tonight, so I don't know if that's, you know. I think it's important, because right now we've got, obviously, we have... I think I need to tell what happens.

I left about 6 p.m. a little long of 6 p.m. I'm not quite sure when it was when I called the actual police department, I called 911. Well, I had left it as there were four children in the house, and a woman. From the outset, detectives suspect Tyler has a plan and that turning himself in may have been his first step

in trying to appear more innocent. And as the interrogation unfolds, that plan becomes crystal clear. Everything that happened that night was, according to him, Ashley's fault. The woman and I had an altercation with a lowered weapon and she had a bullet in her head. never initiated like violent contact on her like that I'm not the one that pull the gun like I don't have the gun I don't want the gun I don't want to be in dispute with a gun no attention to shoot action no I've never had I don't want to take a mother away from her four kids like that's not my thing I close the door I locked the bathroom door to the bedroom so the kids don't go in there I had emptied out the gun it was empty and I left it there

And I went out. I didn't know what the fuck to do. I'm sorry. I wasn't perfect. The kids were there. There was a nine-year-old there that's really responsible. I was watching the kids. The neighbors were outside across the street, or I had seen neighbors outside at one point across the street. And I felt like I just needed to go and be like, this just happened. So I drove to the parking lot down the street and just called 911 one. In Tyler's own words, the shooting was merely an altercation.

But what stands out even more is how he referred. to Ashley only as a woman, never as his partner or acts. Up until this point, Tyler has not shown any emotion when talking about Ashley, but detectives can sense something beneath the surface. Tyler avoids eye contact. He rambles, fidgets, and appears restless, almost like he's on the verge of a breakdown. And the moment detectives ask about Ashley's children, Tyler would finally crack. And she's got how many kids?

Four kids. That's what I was told. Okay. Do you know their names and ages? Yes. Uh, yeah. Emma's two. Josie's four. Lexi is six and Riley is nine. Okay.

Were they all at the house tonight? She has. Okay. This is the first real emotion detectives have seen, but they needed to determine whether this is. genuine guilt, a calculated tactic, or emotional instability tied to his anabolic substance abused. Aware that Tyler could shut down the interview at any moment, Detective Cooley grows more cautious, so he starts carefully, probing Tyler about any problems in his relationship with Ashley,

and this is when Tyler would slip up. I was five years, and I felt like a man of honor, and I had a ring on, and I was proud of it, I was proud to be married, I was proud to be a good husband, and I fell into this, this weird relationship that I'd never wanted, you know, to be in. I'd never wanted to be a part of. And I just went down this road that I just kind of felt like I could never escape from. It was like drowning in it, you know? So I'm just like, like I was able to divorce in Oregon, you know,

it went through and just like a couple months, like a couple months. It was finalized when I was done. Her thing has been a year. Right. It takes a year for them to like do the separation process and everything. So we've just been kind of in that whirlwind of back and forth with everything and stuff. and I've thought about leaving multiple times.

I've wanted to leave multiple times just because it's kind of too much to just hate being like, am I taking this woman away from, am I taking this man away from four kids, like his four kids, whatever, I just felt a lot of guilt in my life in this relationship. According to Tyler, he felt guilty and was planning to walk away from the relationship. But detectives already know this isn't true.

Ashley's ex-husband has already shown investigators' messages in which she repeatedly complained that Tyler refused to leave. Additionally, detectives uncovered love letters exchanged between Tyler and his ex-wife. Proof he wasn't trapped at all. To my love, by the time you see this letter, you're miles away from me. Don't be mad. I hid one last love letter in your things. You defeated the world to get to me. I'm never going to forget about you.

Don't forget about me. I hope you're ready for when we meet again. It's clear to the detectives that Tyler, Tyler left his marriage by choice and could have gone back at any moment. So Detective Cooley would push further into the dynamics of their relationship, asking whether things had ever turned abusive. It's at this moment that Tyler's mask would slip, revealing a deep insecurity about his masculinity and a resentment towards Ashley.

He could no longer hide. Has it ever become physically, she ever hit you, struck you, kicked you, slapped you. Slap. It's a couple times. Just not slap with things. shoes or something like that she's hitting with like shoes and stuff that anger

frustration yeah she gets you hard I mean just like a I mean I don't want to sound like a I mean she just slap me with like a with her like slippers it's kind of like that across the when she was mad about something yeah

okay so you know like the way I picture is like if my wife's agitated with me or aggravated with me she pops me with something yeah we're saying something like that or we're saying she aggressively no like you know pops you with something I'd say the middle ground of that just kind of like

pissed about something but just that's how she's reacting to it but she wasn't like overly like I'd never seen a level of aggression to this with the gun I don't know where that came from I have no idea I'd never seen her do and you can pull any shit like that ever I didn't even know if she could but now

Tyler would inadvertently reveal something far more disturbing about himself as part of their custody agreement Ashley wasn't allowed to have anyone stay overnight, including Tyler, a rule he knew very well. And as soon as their relationship began to fall apart, Tyler's first instinct was to expose that violation to her ex-husband. Knowing full well, it would cost Ashley custody of her children. And so our relationship was really falling out here, and I threatened to tell him the truth when I was getting ready to leave. I was going to call her husband and be like, I have been spending the night here.

I don't know what legal ramifications is going to have for you guys in your life and your world. I've been in the relationship with you. This relationship has hurt me in a lot of ways. I've sacrificed a lot of things. And for me to go and have closure, I think that, like, I'm just going to let John know the whole truth that he deserves to know the truth. I'm sorry, it's kind of an ugly ending for both of us, this woman and I. Tyler has just shown how quickly he can retaliate and how easily he could justify harming Ashley whenever he felt the need to do so.

But according to Tyler, what happened next wasn't just another argument. He claims Ashley suddenly escalated the situation to a deadly level by pulling a gun on him. She has a loaded gun, or she has a gun in her drawer next to the bed, and I was in the bed of talking with her, and she loaded her gun and cocked it back, and basically told me that she wasn't going to let me call and tell. and so this just went to like a thousand like zero to a thousand in like one blink of an eye shit I'm like in the bedroom talking with her having a normal conversation and she's like loading a gun in front of my face and she has a pistol like literally packing some stuff putting some stuff

in the drawers I wasn't doing shit I didn't hit her I wasn't like fighting her anything I was just talking and she like loaded her gun and was pointing at me I just know that like that's where that started from and I'm not saying that to like do something dig myself in the grain like oh the past he never saw it happen and now she did that sounds like bullshit no she did it though I'm a man I'm a lot stronger than her I was aggressive but it was like she's not she shot that gun before she knows what the fuck she's doing that I don't shoot guns I didn't like very like shot a gun in my life and so the whole way it happened I feel like for me I didn't mean to do anything I didn't mean for her to do anything it was like basically felt like it was like just fighting for my life

and I feel like it was like this is how it ended according to Tyler this is chaotic struggle wasn't aggression, it was survival. Detectives continue to press for details about what happened in the bathroom, and what Tyler would say next would either support his self-defense claim or unravel it completely. Okay, how long from the time she came into the bathroom to where it escalated to the point she gets shot? Talking about seconds or minutes? Two minutes probably. Just struggling.

Those two minutes. Just fighting, trying to, it's a combination of talking, moving a gun around each other. It's just like trying to grab her. I'm trying to hold on to her. It's just like it felt like it was like fighting for survival. I don't know what was going on. I feel like she was going to kill me.

So at no point you stripped the gun from her and had the gun in your hand totally? Not until it was over. Not until she was on the ground. Were you on top? Was she on top? Behind. You were behind.

Like kind of like this like kind of trying to do like a tow cold shit thing or something. She was like trying to get the gun to me. So it was just in our general facial area. he is okay after the shot what happens i don't even i don't even i don't i stood there and i couldn't believe what the fuck happened and the first thing i thought of was is i have to call somebody i have to get someone here i have to stand up for what i've done tyler is becoming increasingly more agitated forcing detectives to call a short break concerned that pushing any further would cause him to

shut down completely but the moment they step outside the interrogation room Everything changes. New evidence comes in, and it directly contradicts Tyler's story. Tyler claims Ashley had the gun in her hand, and they were fighting over the weapon. But when Ashley's body was discovered, her phone was still in her right hand, her dominant hand, meaning she hadn't been holding a weapon in the moments before she was shot. Then came the most damning detail. Ashley's hair was found inside the barrel of the gun, combined with skull fracture, patterns, it proved the weapon had been firmly pressed against her skin when fired.

This wasn't self-defense. This was a cold-blooded execution. This was exactly what detectives needed. Armed with this evidence, Detective Cooley re-enters the room. And this time, he's ready to confront Tyler about his story. But to the detective's surprise, his controlled demeanor has disappeared. And Tyler is about to lash out. Well, do you feel like it probably just got out of hand?

Yes, I think our whole relationship was out of hand, and I think that I've never had someone do that to me. I've never had someone get that mad at me that they load a weapon in their house. The kids were asleep. It was too nights ago, and she cocks it back, and she's standing there, like, all cocky looking at me like she knows what she's going to do with it. I mean, why not, if this lady's got a gun, why not just get the hell out of there? Because she had never done anything like this before.

I just, the other night, two nights ago, I don't even know why I let that go. I should have left the house. I guess is it fair to, like, say I was afraid for my life, though? Yes. Like, is that fair to say that? I mean, I feel like the dude, the cop out there was like, you're a big dude, and I feel like it's not fair

if it's like, you look like you can hound yourself. You could have just, like, punched her in the face or, like, kicked her or something or, like, done something. And I'm like, I don't know, man. One bullet goes off and you're fucked. Yeah. I just felt like it was like, for me, it's not about it.

that. That's right. It's about a, it was a fight for literally, like, she, I don't know what the fuck she's going to do. She threatened me the night, so now I'm just like, I don't even know. It just feels like it was an accident. I didn't try to murder any, but I didn't try to kill anyone. I don't know how, I don't know what the thing happened. I don't know. I worked in the medical field and I know that it's not good. I don't know that. Tyler's words no longer sound like the frustration of a man defending himself. They sound like hostility towards someone he blames for everything that happened. But this is when Tyler would start to realize

he isn't coming across the way he hoped. And when detectives press a little harder, they're about to make their biggest mistake, pushing Tyler to shut down completely. We're still missing some things that I feel that you're kind of rushing through. And I think it... I'm just trusting today.

I just want to feel like I'm like someone's like on my... kind of list it like on my side on your set right no but I'm not trying to I know I've seen this in the movies I know what I'm trying to do like it's like the more I tell now it's like the better it looks like the more I just tell now it's like but I'm getting to that place where it's like we're at like

the heart of everything that happened I'm trying to be really careful with like if I fuck up or if I say something stupid I don't know what the more I talk I feel like the more it's like going to look like oh man dude I'm trying to explain the best like kind of what happened right now the whole world that they know what just happened and probably like

that guy's a piece of shit so I'm like feel really alone where I like don't have anyone my family's not here no one's here I understand

I understand that Ashley's not here either and I'm trying to process that shit right now but what we're going to do is we're going to refrain from any more questions

if you feel compelled to re-engage or say anything you are more than welcome you know I appreciate you guys be impatient with me I know you guys got to do this and people and stuff

and I'm not trying to tell you that don't want you to count I don't want to tell more and more and more. I just feel like I'm at that point. I'm looking at that piece of paper what I've told you. I want to go to tell someone that's like kind of like to get in a miracle

and like, I hear what you're saying. Maybe don't have you, maybe. Some counsel. I know you guys are counseling me right now and I'm appreciating it, but I need someone else that just feels like it's like there's this, man. It's at this point that Tyler refuses to answer

any more questions until his lawyer arrives. But with the evidence stacked against him, Tyler would ultimately be charged with second-degree murder and four counts of child abandonment. He would go to trial maintaining that he acted in self-defense, but the state's case would be overwhelming. Tyler would be found guilty on all charges and sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole.

Thank you for watching and supporting our team. To help the four children affected by this tragic case, we've set up a GoFundMe and began with a $10,000 donation from the Dr. Insanity Team. The funds will primarily go towards therapy and educational expenses, helping give these children the best possible chance despite what they've been through.