Dr. Insanity - Killer Couple Realizes Cops Found Their Murder House

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

In November 2018, 18-year-old Samantha Guthrie mysteriously disappeared, leaving her Mother desperate for answers. The investigation began at an abandoned house linked to Samantha, where police would uncover bullet casings and bl**d stains with Samantha's DNA. As detectives continued following the trail, they would unravel a case unlike anything they had seen before... What began as a missing person’s report soon revealed a web of disturbing connections, all tied to the abandoned murder house... With tensions rising and lives on the line, the question remained: Would they find Samantha before it was too late? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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do you in here? Anyone's up there, come down with your hands up now. I think there's blood on this wall. Yeah, this looks like dried blood. These cops just found the bloodstains of a missing girl. Samantha Guthrie left her house the previous day, never to be seen again, and her blood was just discovered on the walls of this abandoned house.

But what they didn't discover yet was that they weren't inside any abandoned home. Instead, they were inside a killer couple's murder house. There's blood stains there as well? Yeah, I saw that. Right now, the cops have no clue where Samantha is, or if she's even alive. All they have are the blood stains on the walls and the stench of death. But while they scour through this gruesome scene,

the killers are across town, working on tying up loose ends. Why explain what's going on? With no idea who the next target of the killer couple could be, the cops were now on a ticking clock, and they would soon find themselves entangled in a web of dozens of witnesses and potential suspects, with the zero clue that the killers are hiding in plain sight all along. You're looking at some serious problems. I ain't got nothing to say to y'all.

Robbins are any present? Nobody else sitting here? I got nothing to say. Help us. This is serious. She was already going to kill by this. Everything started. in November 2018, when a mother called police worried that her daughter had vanished without a trace.

It had already been more than a day since anyone had seen 18-year-old Samantha Guthrie, and the cops arrived quickly to take her mother, Joni's statement. Hello, what's going on? Okay, four? My daughter. Okay. How'd your daughter? She's 18.

She's an adult? What, uh, does she have any type of mental illness or? Okay, so what makes her missing? We can't find her. We got a call yesterday saying she was shot in the head, thrown in the trunk of a car, and they took off. You got this call yesterday? Yeah. You called the police? The police were called yesterday. They served, they went over to the house that it supposedly happened at. They checked. They said they didn't see anything.

Right. Okay. And where was this supposed to be at? On Lillian. Lillian. Where's Lillian at? I've never heard of it. Little did this cop know. He'd become extremely familiar with Lillian Street,

as it would become the site of hours and hours of investigation and one of the most disturbing crimes to come out of the city in years. But for now, it sounds as though Samantha was murdered, or at the very least, kidnapped. But nobody can be sure. All of this information came over a mysterious phone call from someone they don't even know. And who called you to tell you this? The, the, uh... I got a call for somebody that... So you have no idea who it was?

No, but I can tell you the person I'm looking for. Whether we're looking for or not. The problem is, is that she's an adult. What's the address again? 375, Lillian. Why would she be over there? She's in... Started getting into bad stuff. Okay.

When was that? Okay. When was that? Okay. So that's the house right there? I don't know what the house looks like. I didn't go there. Everything about this case is just so eerie, right from the details of Samantha's disappearance,

to just how calm her mother seems to be about the whole thing. But it turns out the house that Joni was talking about was due to be boarded up in just a few days. It's in a rough area of town and has been abandoned for months. The cops had already taken a look around the address recently, but didn't find any evidence of a murder. As Joni said, Samantha had been struggling heavily. She left home the second she turned 18 and instantly fell in with a bad crowd. She was often seen frequenting abandoned houses known to be used by drug abusers and criminals, and she was slowly getting more distant from her family. Joni and her dad never stopped trying to support her and keep her safe, but it's starting to seem as though their efforts

failed to prevent their worst fears. Yeah, the Lillian address was vacant. I know. And they, the officers had imported up. So, we didn't see any, no blood, no nothing. But to be honest, we think somebody's playing a prank punch. Over on Lansing, I had a, somebody call parents and say, their kid, and they even mentioned him by name, was shot and killed the day before.

And they had called us, and actually, the son was fine. So, like, 99% of the ones I do, I go on, they're just people picking on you. That would be fantastic. To a mother in this situation, it doesn't matter what's happened to other people in the past. She just needs to know her daughter is safe. Joni gives over a description of Samantha, including a distinctive butterfly tattoo on her right arm, before telling the cop one more crucial piece of information. Do you want the name of the person she was last with the supposed person that shot her?

Okay, sure. Danny Hamby. Who? Danny Hamby. This wasn't a familiar name to the cops, and this officer is still convinced that this case is nothing serious. But the next day, all of that would change. That evening, they'd published the description of Samantha, asking if anyone had seen her or knew what had happened to her. And the next morning, they actually got a response.

All right, today is Tuesday, November 20th, 2018, times 107 p.m. And we're here with, what's your first name? John Marshall. All right, so we're here to talk about something to happen over on Lillian Street back in November 4th. Mm-hmm. All right, why don't you tell me about what happened at night? John Marshall was the first of many witnesses in this case, and he got in contact with the cops after hearing that they were looking for Samantha.

Apparently, he was actually at the house on the night everything happened and saw it all with his own two eyes. The problem is, it almost sounds too good to be. be true. The cops don't know Marshall and can necessarily trust him to give a truthful statement, meaning they'll have to verify all the evidence he gives over. So as Marshall talks to the cops, we'll be keeping track of each piece of information, and then following how the cops investigate and verify it all in order to hopefully solve the case and find Samantha. Sam had been trying to get a ride over to the house for a few hours. I didn't feel like driving

anymore to go pick her up so I didn't pick her up that night and a few hours later she showed up from an Uber I'm guessing that her dad had all right now when you when you say the house that what's the address 75 million okay I'm guessing from what I've been told her dad paid for an Uber for her to get over there okay this is already an easy piece of information to verify if Samantha's dad did pay for the Uber then he'd certainly remember that and be able to confirm it. And conveniently, the cops had interviewed her dad a few hours later, and he did indeed tell him that he'd bought her an Uber that night. On top of that, the address Marshall gave was also correct,

so it seems that he's turning out to be trustworthy so far. But solving a murder is a completely different thing, and the cops are going to need some better confirmation than that. But I was walking to the Circle K on Capley and roads to get cigarettes in a soda when I seen her and Yoshi walking to the house on Lillian. In about half hour after I got back to the house, and half hour, 45 minutes or so, Danny showed up and knocked on the back door, I answered the door.

Now, how do you know Danny? Justin Passing. Do you know him from the house? Yeah. And you know what his last name is? Ambie. Now things are starting to get weird. That's the name that Joni said could be the kill.

and Marshall seems to know him and the people he's friends with. Okay, was he by himself? No, he was with Tony. Okay. Is what I was told her name was. And that one black guy that I've never seen before. Okay, do you know what looks like? Yeah.

I think, what's his name, Marcus, something with him, I don't want to say, or? What's he look like? William. Okay, William. All right, what's he look like? A tall about 6, 2, 6, 6, 3, 225, medium build, darks, and they came up to the back door? Yeah. All right, and they knocked on the door?

Yeah. And who let them in? I didn't. Okay, so you let them in, and then what happens? They went upstairs and talked to Jody. Upstairs in Jody's room was Jody, Kim, Kate, Sam, then Danny and Tony, and William stayed downstairs. is incredibly useful information that Marshall is passing over. He's just given the names of six potential witnesses and suspects, and he seems to know them all personally. If this is all true,

then Marshall could have just taken this case from no leads at all to almost too much to handle. The only thing the cops need now is verifiable information about exactly what happened to Samantha. That's when the detective asks this question, and gets much more than he bargained for. yes so what happens next um i didn't hear any yelling or anything but music was playing and sam came downstairs looking kind of distraught and she looked at me i'm like then go out the back door go out the back door if you you know she kind of looked like she was panicking so i'm like leave right she went to the basement and two or three minutes later i heard a little bit of a commotion and then sam came upstairs first and she had like a little bit of a little bit of a commotion and she had like a little

bit of a bloody nose. Okay. Or a busted lip, I couldn't tell. And she went back upstairs to Jody's room. Danny and Tony followed. Like, followed her or chased her? No, followed. Okay.

And five, maybe ten minutes later, Sam came running down the stairs. Danny was right behind her, and by the time she got to the fourth or fifth stair down from the living room floor, he shot her in the back of the head. It doesn't get much clearer than that. Apparently, Samantha then fell to the ground, and the house fell into disarray.

Two men named Yoshi and William then started to order Marshall and his friends around before helping to carry Samantha's body to a vehicle outside. The detective was starting to get a perfect picture of what this case really was, but there was still one burning question. Okay, is Sam alive? It sounded, she was making noises, but in my past experiences, it sounded more like deaf gargles, your body's shaking. Okay.

So she's still kind of breathing at this point? Yeah, but she got shot back at the head by 8 to 10 inches away with a Smith and Weston MP 40. Okay. From the sounds of it, Samantha technically survived the shot, but it wasn't looking good. If she wasn't taken to a hospital quickly, she likely wouldn't have made it, but it doesn't seem like the killers were expecting her to live. At least the cops now have a possible murder weapon, a Smith and Weston MP40.

Remember though, the cops have already searched the house and didn't find any evidence of a murder. But given the importance of this information, they decide to go back and see if they missed anything. At this point, Samantha's life hangs in the balance. If they find a single bullet casing or blood splatter, it likely means that Marshall was telling the truth, and Samantha is long dead. So I'll just pull up. After police, and you're here? Make our serve floor! These are the steps that Samantha was allegedly shot on.

But the cops can't stop to investigate yet. Knowing how hot this house is and how many places there are for people to hide, they have to be on high alert and clear the entire place out before they can even think about letting their guard down. All three officers have their guns drawn and are doing their best to stick together should anybody be inside. Hector, please. Black Mara Licka Park lot.

Mm-mm. In the looks of it. Dad came here. It seems like the house is empty, but it's a complete mess. There's no obvious evidence of a murder anywhere, so it's now clear why the cops didn't find anything their first time here. However, Marshall had told them two very important things, exactly where the shot was allegedly taken, and more importantly, that William and Yoshi had actually come back

to clean up the scene. That means that any signs of the murder could be extremely. difficult to find, but not impossible. In fact, you've actually already seen some evidence that proves Marshall's story to be 100% true. Take another look at the marking on this wall, right below the crack. It's a little difficult to see, but that isn't graffiti. That's Samantha Guthrie's blood. Once the cops spotted this, it all fell into place. Multiple blood spatters that hadn't been cleaned up were found on the walls, as well as the bullet casings. that looked similar to the bullets that the Smith and Weston MP40 uses,

Marshall was telling the truth. Danny and Tony were now wanted for murder, and they had four other witnesses they could use to track them down and convict them. And, in fact, they wouldn't have to wait long, as one of them came straight to them. This young lady came in my back door and what's going on? You want to step outside and talk? No.

No. Who's they? Huh? Huh? Huh? for anything. This is Kimberly. One of the girls that Marshall mentioned was at the house the day Samantha was shot.

The owners of this home called the cops after she begged them to let her inside as she was being chased, allegedly by some others that frequent the house on Lillian Street. The cops are desperate to know what could have possibly made her this distressed, so they bring her outside to their cruiser to talk. You're safe now, okay? Why don't you explain what's going on? Who's like looking all around? That's pretty heavy.

Who's they? What do they look like? This guy named human. Black eye, white guy? What was you wearing? Black pants and a black, short-sleeved hoodie thing that like had a hood, like a straw strength right here,

but it wasn't like a hoodie hoodie. Just one black guy? A bunch of white guys. A black and white guy? There was a black guy. Like three white guys. And then... I was fine.

Oh, that was just running. Whatever happened to Kimberly was clearly a blur to her, but the cops are starting to get a little concerned. Barely a couple days after Samantha's death, one of the witnesses gets chased by a group of people holding guns. It could just be coincidence. I'll be it a terrifying one, so the cops ask her why she was in town to see if this could be related to anything else. And they get the most worrying answer possible.

So you're from the Falls, you were visiting a friend here in Hackland. Where's that friend at now? And where do you know where they live? I'm going to run her name. What's the friend's name? What's her last name? What's her last name? Jody Harris.

Do you know what street she lives on? Who's that? What's that? Okay, what streets do you live on? On Lillian. What is it? Lillian? The only reason Kim was in town was to meet her friend Jody on Lillian Street,

and she doesn't know anyone else from around here. That's when the cops come to a horrifying realization. They think Kim was just attacked because she was a witness to Samantha's murder, and now they have a terrifying situation on their hands. If they don't track down the killers and all their accomplices quickly, they could be looking at a lot more than just one murder. This case had now become a top priority, and all local officers and detectives were on high alert

for any leads that could help them find even just one of the suspects. That's when they got a potentially life-saving call. Danny and Tony had been spotted in a parking lot downtown. Apparently, they were even bragging about having just killed somebody. Officers rushed to the scene praying that they were talking about Samantha and not a brand new victim. Step out of the car.

Step out of the car. Man, move over here. Step out of the car. Hands up, please. Hands up, please. What is that? Okay. Put all that stuff down.

Put it down. Why? Why are you in there? Put it down. Hands on top of your head. Why are you doing this? Stay right there. Turn around.

Turn around. Turn around. Nope. Stay right there. I'm attending you from now, okay? I'll explain to what's going in a second. Do you have any any sharp on you? No.

Any weapons or anything? No. Don't reach for nothing. I'm not. Do you have anything? Any weapons on you? No. Have a seat.

Stand up for me. Stand up for me. What are you doing with your foot, man? I got... Blisters? Blisters and fucking is called Jungle Rock. There's another one right here. Where at?

Don't reach you? Dug. What are they called? The fifth pocket right here. Okay. There's a knife right there. I'll take it over. I just want to make sure you...

I got a back. So far, this has been surprisingly easy. At this point, the officer had no idea it would actually be the interrogations that'd be the hardest part of this process, but he's enjoying the simplicity while it lasts. Soon, a couple more officers arrive on the scene to help search Danny and Torrey, secure them, and collect some information before they're taken away for questioning. I haven't been upstairs to talk to her lives here yet. Okay. When I pulled up, he was in the driver's seat, she was digging in the trunk.

As soon as you saw me, look, as she did something, she closed it real fast. I just did have quick pack down and make sure there have any guns on him, but if you guys could try to get a hold of him, figure out what the hell is going on here. Okay. You don't have anything on you? It's going to poke me for me anything like that, right? No weapons we need to be aware of. If you do tell me now. I actually have my gun and all of them.

I only had it because I have it. Where is it at? It's loaded? It's not one of the long. I only had to come to hold you. Is there right here on the side? I don't want to set it off. I don't want, I know, I just...

I never used it before. I just went long and took it with me because of the category. I'm going to war. She had a gun in her wall. I haven't found his yet. Where's her, you got a gun? I had two miles off. I had two knives I was laying there.

What's your name? Danny Camber. I was going to check you real quick. You're all right. Are you hurt? Yeah, I got jungle rot on them. You got a what? Jungle rot on my feet.

The bottoms of my feet are rot now. Okay. Is it okay if I check your pockets here real quick? Yeah, we're not trying to give you one hard time. We got a call that people with guns and warrants and things like that. Warrants? You got needles on you? Yeah, I got two in there.

Oh, don't you have a cat or uncapped? No, they're all captured. That doesn't want to get poved. I don't have to look at there over there. What not? Oh, hell, no. Oh, Lord, no. What is it? Math.

Matt. Eventually, the officers brought Danny and Tony back to the station for interrogation, and this is where the hard part started for the detectives. Lieutenant went and Detective Ross. How you doing? So, I got you with a gun. Okay.

You're okay? I won't my attorney. Okay. Can I read it to you in anyway? Yeah. For the record? You have the right to remain silent. You understand this right?

Here, the cops actually called on Danny and Tony just now for something completely different. Apparently, they were at a friend's house when Danny pulled a gun on the homeowner. Luckily for the cops, this is all Danny thinks they know, so they'll be able to slowly extract information about Samantha over the course of the interview and back him into a corner. That is, if Danny decides to talk at all. You've indicated that you want to talk to your lawyer? Correct. I don't know what it's about, but I'm still on my attorney.

I know that I can do this. All right. I don't know what I have to do about your... About 11 numbers, get me to my attorney. All right. Man, I don't know what we can do about your freezing, but maybe get you out of here as soon as we can. How's that? While you're here, can we cover at least cover something?

Even talk, right? You wonder if we get some swabs from here? Like I said, you can talk, right, we'll say nothing. All right. I'm going to say like this, man. I got 11 numbers, 23 years in the system. I ain't got nothing to say to y'all. Without my attorney present, nobody else sitting here, I ain't got nothing to say.

Danny's been in this situation before, and he knows exactly what to do. At the very least, stall the detective's process for as long as possible. He's staying quiet and refusing to speak without an attorney present, as is his right. So the detectives have no other choice but to switch over to Tony and see if she will budge instead. Okay, I'll see if there's one. I'm lieutenant waiting. This is Detective Ross. Hello. Hi.

Um. Like, I didn't know anything else if you had never had a weapon before in my life. I'm all gay at Tony. There's no one here at least me. So. We're going to read your Miranda rights, okay. They already did that. Okay.

Good. Okay. You understand them and everything? Okay. There's a girl that's miss. missing and we have strong reason to believe he's involved in her disappearance. He couldn't do that. So... He couldn't do that. Why couldn't you do it?

Because he's not that type of person. Okay. But we, like I said, we have a lot of information pointing to his involvement in this girl's disappearance. So I want from you to know if you've ever seen this girl before. Think hard before you want to know if you've seen her. Okay. And you've never seen her before you've seen her. before that's true they're deciding to be a lot more up front with tony and treat her not as a suspect

but more of a witness it's likely she wouldn't confess to being involved in the murder but they think there could be a chance that she'd turn danny in if she thought it meant she'd get away unfortunately though having been on the wrong side of the law in the past herself she's not about to help the cops out so easily i'm gonna be straight with you he's looking at some serious serious problems. And from what you're telling me, if you were with him that whole time the past three days, which she went disappeared in the last three days. So if you were with him the whole time, you know what my next leap is. Well, that's ridiculous because he was with me. We were in Warren. Think real hard, because this is very important to what happens with you in the future. Okay.

No, I get that. I'm not that stupid. Okay, hang on, hear me out. So this is not a misdemeanor crime we're investigating. We don't do that, okay? When we get involved, something bad has happened. We know some other stuff went on this weekend, specifically yesterday, Saturday night at a house in Akron. So I don't want you to get in any trouble with something that you were just along for the ride. But if you're going to sit here and tell us with you the whole time, you think you're helping him, but you're not. You're hurting yourself. Let me tell you about the house where it happened at. We've talked to people that's been at the house. They were all at this. house where this girl disappeared from in fact something bad happened to her at the house you know why

we know that because the guys we've already talked to him all day we spent all day talking to him and he gave us detailed accounts of what happened at that house to think hard about how you want to handle this because if you're going to sit here and vouch for him that can get you caught that can get you in trouble you have you have kids yes two boys okay um what would you do if one of those boys went missing Everything I said to find them. Okay, would you expect people to help us to find them, to locate them? Yeah. The route the detective is taking is obvious, and would work on the majority of people.

He's trying to scare Tony into giving up what she knows so they can get to the bottom of things faster. If she gives Danny up, she might get a good deal with them, but if not, things could end up real badly for her. The most interesting dynamic here, though, is how the detective is trying to use Marshall's earlier statement against her. This happens all the time, but usually they're exaggerating the strength of the evidence or making it up completely. This time, though, they actually have an airtight statement, but Tony simply doesn't believe them. That means she thinks she can just continue to deny everything, and instead of taking a deal for less jail time, she can just get away with no charges. So with this in mind, watch how confidently she denies everything,

unaware that the detectives know. Every word she speaks is a lie. So this girl, family, has been out looking for her all day. Okay, but unfortunately, we already know what happened to her. So from here on out, anything that we, from based on what you're telling us, we're giving you this chance to talk to us now, anything that in relation to her, what happened to this girl,

is going to be attached to you too, okay? Because we're giving you a chance. But if you want to cover for him, that's fine. I don't care. It don't matter. It don't matter to me. We're going to move on. I'm sorry that this happened to that, girl. We have reason to believe you were there. I was there. I don't keep in an effort like that. I just started to come to happen when I got hired.

We're not saying that it was every weekend day, but we're saying that we have reason to believe based on what we've been doing all day. You were there. I'm sorry. I've never seen that girl in my life. And we have people that says that have told us you were there. Oh, that's ridiculous because I don't know anybody really from that. You know, actually, in addition to the people that we talk to, said that this all started because you and this girl

got into some kind of altercation. I don't know this girl. I've never seen this girl. Like I said, once we move forward in this investigation, from what you're telling us, since you're with him, you're going to be attached to whatever. what we do with him. Do you understand that, right? Yeah, I'm still open. Okay. You're sure we got that clearer?

I've never seen that girl. Is that? I don't have to do that busy. You hardly even looked at him. I looked at him. I don't know who that is. Well, I got to know him. So to Detective Ross, we got to know him a lot today. We spent the entire day with him. And, uh, well, that's not important. You don't know him. So what difference does it make? In reality, Tony is extremely familiar with the man in the photo, as he's the man that helped load Samantha into her car. That man is Yoshi.

Conveniently, Yoshi, whose real name is Dylan, had just been brought in on unrelated warrants, and detectives couldn't believe their luck. One of the main witnesses, possibly even an accomplice, had been brought right to them without any ever whatsoever. The best part, Dylan wasn't the hardened criminal like they'd expected. In fact, his interrogation was unlike anything you've ever seen. Not only is it truly heartbreaking, but it was actually the key to putting not one, not two, but four people behind bars for Samantha's murder. Help us. This is serious. Did something bad happen to her?

It's kind of real. She's a young girl, man. What happened to her? I don't know. I just heard a couple days ago. Helpless. Help us. Do you see something bad? Not five minutes into the interview, we see an emotion painted on Dylan's face you don't often see in the interrogation room.

He's holding back tears, trying to hide his face, and is exhibiting a type of stress you rarely see in criminals. He's terrified and devastated at the same time. After all, he's just 19 years old. He shouldn't be caught up in all of this. The detective picks up on this immediately and wants to figure out precisely why Dylan feels so strongly about all this. They spend some time discussing simple details with Dylan deflecting pretty much everything. But this whole time, the stress is building up in Dillon, and 15 minutes later, the detective notices that he's on the verge of completely breaking down, and he decides to exploit this perfectly. What did you see?

I totally would have to solve. No, I mean, three more that you saw him. We need your health. She was never been killed like this. Help us. What if this is your family member, your sister? Hey, there comes a time in your life where you have to do, make a right decision to do the right thing. We need your help.

She's actually dead. Okay. Is she? Um, that's what I'm talking to. Did you see something to happen to her? Hmm. If we talk about it, you're going to feel like the weight of the world is off your shoulders. There's only one thing that makes a person get this emotion.

That's if they saw something bad. I think it's helpful if you were talking, you were having time and I don't know why. I don't know why, what? Why have you felt like this to her? So you got to say, well, you're close to the same age, right? You've felt a connection with her because you maybe had the same problems going up and stuff like that. Probably.

What do you guys talk about? Just life and stuff like that. You can get up. I'm looking at listening to music as well. You guys listen to you guys like she played music. I don't really perfect music. I just like the white noise. It's tough now. I'm sorry. I'm sorry we're here. I think fine, though, took this point. I'm not talking about it and I'm not thinking about it. I mean, I was singing about it, but what were you thinking about?

Just that this person that could have been a potentially good friend or more maybe, I don't know, is not going to be that person. Not her, she can help her. She may not be here, but they're just being counted. Number one, I'm gonna find out what happened to her. There are hardly any words to describe what Dylan must be feeling here. He was clearly born on the wrong side of the tracks and fell in with a bad crowd. He also clearly loved Samantha, which is really the biggest tragedy of all. Over the dozens of interrogations with witnesses that were conducted,

detectives realized that Samantha was murdered over a small disagreement. small disagreement with Danny and Tony. It was needless, senseless, and ruined countless lives, and Dylan is unwillingly right in the center of it all. The detective gives Dylan a moment to calm down and work through his emotions. Then he tells Dylan that he has one more chance to tell him what happened, bring peace to Samantha's family, and get to the bottom of this once and for all. We, I was on my way out. Sam came back there. And I guess his girl or someone came in with her and they were yelling at each other, arguing. Go towards the direction of downstairs, she turned around and came back,

either slapped her or put something on her cheek or something, I don't know. And she went downstairs, unless she was on the stairs, turning back for her to go down the rest of the stairs. He followed her and had the gun up shot. I don't know where he had her. He only grazed her. She fell on the ground at the bottom upstairs. I had to carry her out to the trunk around the truck. Did he mention her down?

You made you carry her out to the trunk? I wasn't not going to. I still had the gun off that time. No. But I mean, that's not what had me do it. do it, I mean, there's a body and the living are going to blood everywhere now. So we got all the furniture, or I got all the furniture, I tore up the carpet. I mean, that's the wooded floor underneath.

Where's the carpet at? Gone. Oh, where? Earned. I could get all the furniture out of there. And we've been, what did you do once in the outside? It was outside. It's all in the kitchen.

still in him Everything Dylan has said lines up perfectly with not just Marshall's statement but the evidence too Outside the detectives found a fire pit where something had recently been burned They surmised that this was a carpet with all of Samantha's blood on it

And inside, right at the bottom of the stairs we looked at earlier, a large area of carpet and drywall are missing right where Samantha was shot However, that's where Dylan says his involvement ended, meaning he can't answer the single, most important question that the detective still had. Where was Samantha's body? For that, they told the cops to turn to the fourth and final suspect that the cops had had since the very beginning.

William, who Dylan said left in the car with Danny to hide Samantha's body. Our concern is obviously for mostly for the fan. I think you're probably feeling that way too a little bit. Yeah. Whatever this girl's relationship with her mom and dad, she has a mom and dad, and they want to be able to bury the kid with the kid. I don't know she's dead. I know you're probably wiped out.

We're wiped out, dude. We've been at this since I thought this morning, so we're wiped out too. We ain't eaten. I know you probably have me either, but I understand you're having some issues. Sorry, you know, where you guys actually were at? actually we're at some we want you to try at least think about like where are you guys with the body in the back of the car I remember going back down and going up the hill up the hill away from the closer street yeah you know that's

Van Buren's that's not that what is it's called it's a lot of runs along the train tracks okay that's very good so you remember going up the hill too well hotel and unfortunately it's just the way that they had I was laying down in the back. You were like actually physically laid down or you were like just kind of relaxed? No, no. Yeah, they were all the way out. They wanted to be laid down. I was crunched up, I was down and below the window up.

I thought they were going to be killed. I thought they were going to be laid down in the bag and you know, and see where we're going. and I really thought that was it for me, really. William was happy to cooperate with the detectives, which made their jobs considerably easier. The only problem is that he didn't actually see where they drove. He was forced to lay down in the back of the car,

so nobody saw him in the car from the outside, so he might not be as helpful as the detectives initially thought. However, he was able to tell them that they didn't travel for very long and gave a description of the area where they finally had. the body. Was there a lot of, was it a rural area? Yeah, it was a lot of... It was getting more rural at that point, you know?

It was like house and stuff like that, that were around. Right there, I didn't necessarily houses right there. Really, it was more rural, more rural an acre, of course, you know, in the mainstream apartment. Did you ever remember being out there before? You know what that? I'm aware of it was by that thing, a place toward the word. Place the word the property where the trailer was Or when I traded the, the freaking, a big garage.

Where you guys stopped first? Yeah. That's where it was, it felt like it was out that way. Compethical? Yeah, that's where I saw it. Yeah, because we've been on the road from, maybe, like, about 20 minutes already. But you could tell really which direction you were headed,

like north, south? No, no, no, really. Not really. But we were just a lot of, Before we got to the place with the fenced off area where he pulled down, where he wanted to take her body. I just remember a lot of taller trees. I remember you could have seen a lot of orange, you know, a lot of, you know, a lot of the fall colors. Sure.

It's really popping out. It was just really, really bright because there was so many trees. You know, so I knew we were getting more of it. popped up to get out of the car i guess it was just like a two-lane road yeah not really marked yeah it's just a two-lane road and two cars coming home it wasn't the most detailed description ever but it turns out it was all they needed a few days later an officer mentioned they might know an area just outside of akron that matched the description so they sent out a patrol car to search the area and sure enough They found it.

Samantha's body, lying amongst the dirt, not even buried, just dumped out in the open. Immediately, they were able to identify it by the butterfly tattoo on her arm that her mother had mentioned all those days ago. Their search had finally come to an end, and her family could finally make peace. The only question now was what to do with the suspects. The detectives clearly named Danny as the murderer, with Tony having a large role on the murder Danny was charged with murder and abuse of a corpse and given a life sentence, while Tony was given 16 years for tampering with evidence and obstruction of justice. Despite how helpful William ended up being, the rest of his interview and other witness statements implied he had a lot more to do with the murder than he initially let on. So he was charged with abuse of a corpse and tampering with evidence with a sentence of 10 years.

And lastly, the court had to decide on the fate of Dylan, the 19-year-old. They decided that he shouldn't have been involved in this, and given a second chance, he might be able to get his life back on track. So he was charged with tampering and obstructing, but he was only given five years of probation, hopefully allowing him to get back on track and clean up his life once and for all.