Dr. Insanity - Mother Discovers Her Killer Son's Horrifying Secret

Episode Date: December 21, 2025

This is Rhonda Harper — and she’s about to learn that her son is a wanted killer… Just days earlier, officers found the body of a 35-year-old father of three lying on the side of the road with ...a single gunshot wound to the head. At first, it looks like a random act of violence… But as officers begin speaking with witnesses, it quickly becomes clear that a murder duo might be on the run… and that a strange woman is at the center of it all. This video was made for educational purposes only. The video is presented to provide genuine footage of police incidents to promote transparency in government while providing educational, informative and newsworthy content allowing viewers to examine and assess public safety material. This is a fact-checked documentary using authoritative sources. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:36 But that's all, I mean, like I said, it's all I know, it's really all I know. Just days earlier, officers found the body of a 35-year-old father of three with a single gunshot wound to the head. You guys know who he is? He looks familiar. At first, it looks like a random act of violence,
Starting point is 00:00:55 but as officers begin speaking with witnesses, and it quickly becomes clear, that a murder duo might be on the run and that a strange woman is at the center of it all. Okay. Just one bullet, that's it, one shot. I just seen that he had a gun, and the thing I knew, like, out the car and left. I want you to be honest with you. I didn't shoot, girl.
Starting point is 00:01:17 If I did it, I wouldn't be it. I know I'm going to see it. No. At time, sure. It's July 6th in West Odessa, when 9th, when 911 dispatch gets a routine call from a man at a trailer park, reporting someone had broken into his RV. As you're kind of sure.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I have thought, so can I help you? Yes, now. I like the report of theft. All right, y'all get a deputy out there, okay? All right, appreciate it. As officers respond to the report of a break-in with theft, they have no idea this is only the first of several calls to come, each one growing more disturbing than the last.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Who does the RV belong to? My fiancé. Are you sure? It's in her name. How do you know it's hers, though? They're trying to say it because my fiancé, your ex, brought it together. Okay. And they're both in jail right to sit there. She gets out of September.
Starting point is 00:02:14 So I'm coming to washing it over everything, make sure that's okay. Okay. Well, he might have told his mom the same thing. My landlord would say the same thing. Uh-huh. But my toolbox, they had two notebooks, though, they're completely empty. They didn't take anything else with tools? Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:29 through stuff, but I'll move, but... Okay, and what's her name? Lori. This is 35-year-old Europe Crow von Brinteson. Europe claims that he's been having ongoing issues with a woman named Lori, arguing over the trailer
Starting point is 00:02:43 he's been staying in. To police, it feels like a straightforward civil dispute between two people. They document the call, file the report, and leave the scene thinking little of it. But what they don't realize is that in just two days, this simple dispute
Starting point is 00:02:58 will turn far more volatile. Sure. All right. My fiancé and her ex bought an RV and she already done of paperwork and had it notarized
Starting point is 00:03:11 to give me legal right to be here. I just had her ex-mother and two of her friends came out here trying to threaten me and wanted me
Starting point is 00:03:22 to move out of this RV in two days. I just want to know like if they come back to threaten me, I just want to know where, like, where is my car.
Starting point is 00:03:28 The call ends and dispatch marks it as a low priority incident and queues a unit to check on Europe at the RV. But before that unit even arrives, another call comes in from the very same trailer park, and this one is far more unsettling. This man said that there's another man yelling, or not yelling, sorry, he's laying on the ground with like blood on his head. Okay. And he said he is breathing. He said he doesn't know if he shot him. if they stabbed him or what's going on, but he said he dropped in the street, and now he's not
Starting point is 00:04:05 moving, and he doesn't know if the people are still there. We'll get to every decent route, too. All right. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. With reports of a man shot on the side of the road, officers race to the scene, completely unaware of what they might be walking into. What they find there will launch a days-long investigation filled with conflicting stories
Starting point is 00:04:25 and at least one killer still on the loose. For now, though, all they can do is confront the scene. With no witnesses and no suspects, officers need to do everything in their ability to secure the crime scene and preserve any potential evidence before it's destroyed. All right, you'll confirm everything? All right, sounds good, okay. All right, just no more walking around you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:53 As first responders arrive, they instantly find a man lying on the side of the road with a pool of blood around him and a single gunshot wound to the head. They have no idea what happened, but one officer spots something right away, the sheer amount of evidence lying around the scene, and among them, one that will later lead them straight into catching the real killer. I don't see it either. I think they shot him in the car. Probably, man.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I don't, but, but hold on, if they would have dumped them and he would have been bleeding, wouldn't it have spattered? like at least a drop or so. If he's laying out in that way, the car has to have been coming this way. You'll see his shoe prints all right there. And you see these tire marks? That may look like his ship.
Starting point is 00:05:42 That's his shoe tracks right there. So let's make sure none of this right here gets tampered with because he may have been walking when he got shot. And there's a different set of shoe tracks right there. With the scene secured and the evidence documented, officers start forming their initial theories about what happened. But everything takes a turn when they identify the victim, someone they'd already met, and someone whose earlier dispute may soon explain why he ended up dead.
Starting point is 00:06:11 All we know is, the deceased, his name guy Crow, first name Europe, but we don't know what his last name is. His nickname's Crow. Oh, I know them. I know. Can you go confirm him? Yeah. He's laying right there on the, don't step on the dirt on the asphalt. He's on the north side of the road. That's when the realization hits them. The victim on the first of the road. The victim on the first of the road. The the roadside is Europe. The same man who had called 911 both earlier that day and in the days before trying to report a growing conflict over his trailer and an unknown woman involved in it. And as officers revisit those earlier calls, they quickly realized the scale of the problem. Everything about this case is still a mystery. Who was with him, who he argued with,
Starting point is 00:06:54 who might want him dead. But out of all the chaos and unanswered questions, only one clue stands out. Just one name, Lori. Europe was a 35-year-old father of three, working to stay sober and get his life back on track for his children. The RV he was living in had become one of the few steady parts of his life. But that effort came to an abrupt end here on the roadside, long before he had the chance to fully turn things around.
Starting point is 00:07:25 And now to figure out who this unknown woman is and what led to Europe's death, officers split up and start speaking with witnesses from the trailer park. Little by little, they begin to piece together what happened and hear the first names of potential suspects who may have played a role in Europe's murder. We live back here in the back. My wife actually heard from the shot off, but she didn't see.
Starting point is 00:07:52 I was outside feeding my chicken, it was 4 or 6 o'clock, so it was about 5-3-35, and I heard one. It sounded like this was. I don't know exactly what it was, but it was just one boy. That's it. I didn't see it exactly what happened, but I'd seen what was going on over here. I just seen that he had a gun or what looked like a gun to me. They were just sitting there talking, and only thing I knew they got the car and left.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I've seen him and a girl that I know comes here, has been here two or three times. The person that's... Yes, all I know him by is Crow. That's his last name. I saw him walking back this way, and they were down there. down there walking back this way 15 minutes ago maybe just right before it happened i'm sitting in my house i didn't think nothing of it that's his friend she's been here before and they say there was a guy with i didn't i didn't see i don't know i saw him and her walking as officers keep gathering statements
Starting point is 00:08:44 the story stays consistent multiple witnesses saw europe arguing with a woman just moments before the gunshot and they mentioned the same detail that will become important later her purple spiky hair and soon officers get the confirmation they need, along with new details that push Lori even further into focus as their main suspect and expose just how complicated this situation really is. You know, though, Crow? Yes. What's his name? Europe.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Europe? Europe. It starts with a B. I can't remember. Burton? No, it's long. He's not even from here. He's from Georgia, South Carolina, somewhere like that.
Starting point is 00:09:24 You know if he's ever been arrested before? I think so I don't know From what I understand Somebody heard them say Something about a deposit I put a deposit on that or something Brenda that called me
Starting point is 00:09:36 My ex-sister-in-law that lives here She told me that all they heard Somebody heard Something about I'll pay a deposit on this Okay well the issue with the trailer Is Destiny She's in jail Okay
Starting point is 00:09:48 Okay and she was dating a guy named That heard Zach He's in jail also Their family to Zach And they were coming to try to take the trailer. I called the sheriff because I said you cannot take that trailer those two people own it, Destiny and Zach. And when Zach went to jail, she moved her other boyfriendian Crow, the one that they supposedly got shot. Zach's mother and her roommate
Starting point is 00:10:13 had been over here a couple of times and they just gone to him and kind of start it with him. You know what I mean? Okay. So Zach's mom and her roommate came over to get the trailer about a month to go. But anyway, so they I wasn't here that day, but they jumped out, and they were jumping all over Crow. We're going to take this trailer, blah, blah, blah. Well, then they came to, I didn't know how to get a hold of him. They came back a couple of weeks later,
Starting point is 00:10:37 and they pulled up, and I met him down here. And it was Zach's mom and her roommate. And that's the woman whose son jumped out of the car the other day with the gun, because he'd say, and I don't even know that lady's name. I know Lori's name, Zach's mom, but that's all I know about her and I have her phone number of home. After concluding the interviews at the trailer park, officers slowly start to piece together the situation.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And while there's a lot of unclear statements, one thing finally becomes clear. They learn who Lori is. Witnesses explain that Lori has a son named Zach and that the RV belongs to them. Zach has an ex-girlfriend named Destiny who was dating Europe, known as Crow, before he was killed. At the time, Destiny was already in jail on unrelated charges. meaning Crow was living alone in the RV in the days leading up to his death. But while officers begin to understand the tangled dynamics surrounding the RV dispute, these are still only fragments, secondhand accounts, nothing they can rely on.
Starting point is 00:11:38 To truly understand the conflict between Lori and Europe, and whether she could be responsible for his murder, investigators need to speak with the one person closest to him, destiny. So they set up an interview at her prison and begin the questioning. Hi, Jeannie Gillette, I don't know. I'm in the past any sheriff's office. There's some of the cold here. You're not in trouble or anything like that. I just want to talk to you about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. I was like, I don't have anything to get in trouble. I've got everything to try to get myself out of trouble.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I'm going to be asking you a whole lot of questions about everybody out there and more or less who you know when you talk to or who you know out there. So today I was called out. There was what appears to be like an altercation or something happened. that property having to do with that RV, somebody else claiming it to be theirs. And so we're trying to get him out. How close were you with Europe? Pretty close. We were engaged to hopefully be married
Starting point is 00:12:41 when I'm done with this. Okay. From what other people like on the property we're saying is that you lived there with somebody else before? Yeah, you're, is that very handle? Well, that's who was keeping an eye on my camper and who actually got it moved when I was getting out on probation. So is there any reason why he would try to take ownership of it, or per se that it's his, or would you know of any altercation that he might be?
Starting point is 00:13:12 In the beginning, it was both of ours. Like, we had the camper together. So do they have different moms or? Jack and Jared? Yes. Okay, who is the ex-mom? Jack's mom was Lori Grandfather. Does Lori have good contact with Zach or you don't really have?
Starting point is 00:13:29 As far as I know, yeah. Well, he's still, he's, as far as I know, he's still in jail, I think. As far as Zach, would he tell Lori to try to take care of the RV or anything that you know about? As far as I don't know. But do you keep, would you keep in touch with Europe constantly? Oh yeah. Every day. Did he ever tell you there were any issues on the property or?
Starting point is 00:13:53 on the property or he was having it. Well, he told me that he needed a power of attorney as soon as possible because Tammy kept starting stuff with him. Tammy? Yeah, she's the property manager. As Destiny walks detectives through the RV situation, it's clear she doesn't fully
Starting point is 00:14:09 grasp how intense the conflict around its ownership has become. But as the interview continues, Destiny's nerves build and they're about to break into a moment of pure shock and disbelief because the investigators decided It's time to tell her the truth about Europe's death.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Today, somebody went out there, try to force him out. Apparently, they've been trying to kick him out, right? That's what I'm trying to ask you. Who's been trying to get him out? Because we need to find out who did this to him. She's watching him. My husband's going? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:45 He didn't. And I'm sorry. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm sorry, God. I'm sorry, God. But if there's anything, any information, anybody that you may know, would be really helpful.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Like, I'm trying to figure out who the lady with purple spiky hair is or a... That would be, well, Lori has spiky hair. Lori has spiky hair. Lori Grantham's actual. Okay. The moment Destiny confirms that the lady with the spiky hair, is Lori, she instantly becomes the center of investigation. Now that officers know it was Lori who was seen with Europe just minutes before his death, and that she was already involved in a
Starting point is 00:15:33 heated dispute over the RV, they finally have a clear direction. They need to find her fast before she realizes investigators are closing in. But tracking her down won't be simple. Lorry doesn't own or rent a home, aside from possibly the RV, leaving police with no reliable address to search. The only hint they have comes from Destiny, who explains that Laurie used to bounce between motels, so officers start checking those areas, spreading the word that they're looking for her. And just as that search begins, something unexpected happens. Lorry herself calls the police, revealing exactly where she is. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I'm not even going to ask if I'm smoking your call. Can I bait? Uh, roughly than that. I don't smoke, so... Yeah. Oh, no, I'm fine. Detectives detain Lori and transport her to the sheriff's office for a formal interrogation without an issue. And while they can't really explain why Lori revealed her location, this will become clear in the future.
Starting point is 00:16:47 This is the moment investigators believe every... Everything might have finally come together. They have their primary suspect sitting in an interview room, the woman witnesses placed at the RV, the person tied to the long-running conflict over the trailer, and the last person seen with Europe before he was shot. If she talks, this entire case could break open. But what detectives don't realize is that this interview won't end the investigation.
Starting point is 00:17:11 It will completely change its direction, raising a chilling possibility. Lori might not be the person they should have been looking for at all. You know the reason we are here at this moment. Correct. All right, and we bought it for incident that happened on the 8th. What exactly can you tell us about that? I just went over there, check up the son's camera. He's close with me moving out.
Starting point is 00:17:36 You put his closet down on it and everything. He would be at the 6th. You're still there. And I told him, I said, dude, you got to go. I mean, we're paying $50 dollars and not rent at the hotel room. you know you didn't know what you know so you really related to an RV that's on the property correct yeah I said the camper you say the RV belongs to your son
Starting point is 00:18:00 is he is okay who's currently staying at the RV Crow was staying there destiny had to move in she found business man because she's just fouled so so Destiny I understand she's in our custody of the woman and as well as your son right yeah so So you said it belongs to your son? It is. Or that's what you're understanding. Correct?
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah. It's understanding your crow was staying at that R&B in question. Okay. And I've been out there several times, you know, and telling me, why are you here, y'all are not even friends? Y'all, you know, coming to an operator is destiny. Destiny screws everybody around. She's married to Tommy, engaged the crows,
Starting point is 00:18:46 leaving more my kid. So, on this particular day, you want to be able to my kid. You wouldn't back out there. To take it still and moved out yet. Who was with you? Nick. Nick. I don't know what about thing.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Okay. So, just you and Nick? Yes. Okay. Here, Lori gives detectives their first major breakthrough. She reveals that Nick Seabolt, the son of her best friend, is the one who drove her to the trailer park to confront Europe, and that Nick was with Europe at the exact moment he was killed.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Just like that, Detective suddenly have a new potential suspect they haven't even heard of before, and another person they now need to track down. But before they shift their focus to Nick, detectives need to determine one last thing. Did Lori have any idea that Nick might have killed Europe, or could she have played a role in setting up the confrontation? What happened once you guys got there?
Starting point is 00:19:42 Well, probably still there. And as much said, man, dude, you had him until six. You know, we've already paid a deployment on here. You're supposed to move out. You know, he said he didn't have anywhere to go. I like, well, man, I understand it because I'm in the same boat. So they went and just walked around the block, and I went and looked to see what the camper knew it like, you know, how much problem it was going to be, and cleaning it up and moving in,
Starting point is 00:20:09 and then they came back and said, let's go. So we left. He went to the room, drop me off. I went to tell my granddaughter. You didn't find out somebody around at none of this. Whether it's a pair of running shoes or a new car, you check how well something performs before you buy it. Why should investing be any different?
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Starting point is 00:21:07 You just told me you were there. I don't know what happened to crow. I don't know what happened to crow. I don't know what had to grow. I don't know what'd see this. I didn't shoot crow. I didn't. I asked you who's up? I guess Nick did. There's no guess about it. It's either Nick did or dead.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I'm not. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. So you were inside the toilet, though, the entire time, or one day instead of it happened? Yes. Yeah, I heard gunshot. Didn't remember I think it was a gunshot. Very short, can I love to that? I mean, I don't know if I've made it.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I mean, I'm assuming that the minute it was pretty quick, I got heard the shot, then he said, Oh, I'm gonna go. If you're looking at me like, I'm a suspect, or like I hadn't been doing this, then I don't have to be your life. I clearly told you from the get-dling, you know. We want to use you as a witness, you know. We're a suspect. We would come in here and a whole different scenario. This is what is just part of you.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It's just part of the process. Yeah. I think I can get it by the way. Well, that is still a good idea. still get you, uh, look up. Look out. But. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:29 The interview concludes with Lori sticking to her story and denying any involvement or knowledge of what happened. With no evidence tying her to the murder, and her explanation sounding believable, detectives decide to let her go and shift their focus to the one person she plays directly at the scene, Nick. The days pass, and Nick is still nowhere to be found. Police search every possible spot in the city. Shelters, motels, known hangouts, but there's no trace of him. And the murder of Europe, the father of three, remains unsolved. As investigators continue searching for Nick, they revisit every clue they've gathered so far.
Starting point is 00:23:11 That's when they realize there's one person they never formally interviewed. someone especially close to both Nick and Lori. Rhonda Harper, a woman Nick referred to as his mother. Detectives reach out to Rhonda hoping she can help them locate Nick, but instead, she would share a detail from the day of the murder, one that suggests Lori was far closer to Nick than she initially let on. That's the guy wouldn't let me drive. How are you?
Starting point is 00:23:39 I just got called into work right after you. Oh, really? But can we go away? Somewhere else? Yeah. Okay, where are you going to park? I'm an investigator. Jeannie Kudlin on the county sheriff's office.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I'm then trying to keep up with it a little bit. Okay, so that morning or that Saturday morning, what happened? How was your day? Well, I mean, we woke up. Typical day at the Sahara Motel, you know. She said, somebody's going to, because, okay, in the motel room, we had two dogs. Okay. we weren't allowed to have dogs there
Starting point is 00:24:16 and so I allotted to stay that day like I'm going to stay here with the dogs you go ahead and go find out about the you know what was going on with our trailer and Nick showed up okay and she said well I'm just going to ride with Nick
Starting point is 00:24:29 in case you need my car and we're going to go take care of this real quick and we'll be back and I said okay and that's the way that went they left there was no nothing you know just they left and they came back and he
Starting point is 00:24:44 He dropped. It was the strangest thing because he opened the door. She opened the door to come in the room and they kiss at the front door. And I'm like, whoa, when did this happen? Like, she's 40, he's 30. There's a big age difference there. And they kissed at the door and he left. And she come in and there was nothing different about none of them. It appears Lori may have been involved in some kind of relationship with Nick. It's a detail that quietly brings her back onto investigators' radar, but not enough to make her a suspect again. That changes when Rhonda reveals something Nick told her shortly before he disappeared. After you found out about this, then you talked to Nick? I was too scared. You're going to talk to Lori? I don't want to be involved in that crap, you know? I was scared. Can you ask you a question?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Why did he say that Lori has more to do with it than I know? Well, it's in that. Because, you know, you don't want to think as your friend is a killer, you know? I can go to details, unfortunately, because, for obvious reasons. You know what I mean? But things will come out in time.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Thank you, you guys. You're welcome. You have a good day. Rhonda's statements suggest Lori may have known far more and been far more involved than she ever admitted. It's information that will later help
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Starting point is 00:27:43 and that they're just one confession away from closing the investigation for good. But what Nick tells them will force detectives to rethink everything, the evidence they've gathered, the statements they've relied on, and the assumptions driving the entire investigation. All right. My name was hot, so I'd drink you some water. We like water and some people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:09 So I already introduced myself. My name's Jeannie. How that I'm going to minister here with your founder's office? So this is your statement where I have to read this outlaw to you for bail. Excuse my reading skills that are not perfect. I think it's just here. Do you go ahead? Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:29 You know the reason we hear that it's right? Yes. I know why. I don't know why. I do know it says regarding an incident to happen on 56th Street. I didn't. What I do now? Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Are you familiar with an individual name, Europe? No, sir. This individual I asked you about Europe. Never knew, I never knew the name or anything? No, sir. I understand that most people knew him by crows. No coincidence, your name gets smashed by Selby. Like I said, a lot of people don't like me.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Not exactly, it just so happens at the same day that the vehicle arriving at this location happens to get over the vehicle. You're going. When you said it, that's a small lot of people know of people. If I did it, I wouldn't be here. If I did it, I did it. Just like a couple years ago, when someone started me and I got back at me and took up right down the street. Instead, it was, you know, do you have anything else to say? That might help your case?
Starting point is 00:29:48 I mean, I don't need help, I know. I'm interested. And time will show that. Perfect. Your time? You know, you know what's time? I mean, let's take you back then. Go to that. Nick denies any involvement in the murder, and officers fail to locate the weapon used.
Starting point is 00:30:11 to kill Europe. This alone could have stalled the entire investigation, leaving detectives with no confession, no motive, and no murder weapon. But days before Nick turned himself in, investigators had made one crucial discovery that would change everything. A car was captured on a CCTV camera speeding away from the area not far from the trailer park. When detectives ran the plate, they learned that the vehicle belonged to a woman named Catherine Aline Ray. And After interviewing Catherine, they uncovered something important. Just weeks earlier, she had sold that very car to Nick, her nephew. Officers later found the vehicle abandoned near Nick's home and secured it,
Starting point is 00:30:55 and that's when the most overlooked piece of evidence from the first day of the investigation suddenly became the key to the entire case. The tire tracks found next to Europe's body matched the tires on Nick's car exactly. It's the strongest forensic link detectives have, and even with Nick refusing to speak, it's enough to move forward with charges. As investigators rebuild the timeline, Lori's story begins to fall apart. Her statements no longer line up with the physical evidence or witness accounts, and she describes details she shouldn't know if she truly wasn't aware of the shooting.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Her timeline doesn't match the confirmed movement of Nick's car either, revealing she knew far more than she claimed. Peace by piece, detectives realize she wasn't simply an innocent bystander who happened to be there. She knew far more than she admitted and helped set the confrontation in motion. This is what finally turns her from a released witness into a second. At Capital One, we're more than just a credit card company. We're people just like you who believe in the power of yes. Yes to new opportunities.
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Starting point is 00:32:39 verse 2025, over two years after the murder, Laurie Grantam pleads guilty to murder and is sentenced to 20 years.

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