Dr. Insanity - Rich Mass Killer Realizes She's Been Caught 8 Years Later

Episode Date: August 29, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Two and five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. You doing okay this morning? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Sorry to wake you up. So my name's Tyler, this is Steve. How are you? This is 42-year-old Amy Velardi, and for the last eight years, she's been living with a terrifying secret that these detectives are about to expose. I got a sign the case about the homicide to happen in Penalton in 2015, so we'd like to talk to you. Oh my God. In 2015, Amy's parents and grandparents were found brutally murdered inside their family home. And with no witnesses and no physical evidence connecting anyone to the murders, the case slowly goes cold.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Say hi, Amy. Years after the homicides, Amy and her husband Ross had moved on, spending their newfound fortune on cars, a new house, and expensive exotic animals. But unbeknownst to everyone, the killers had been closer to home all along. Amy's done what she promised she was going to do. Everyone's a killed her. Deputies and stuff screwed up all the evidence. You're dead smack in the middle of this thing. We're not here because we think you did it or you might have did it.
Starting point is 00:01:45 We know you did it. It's piling up, Ross. We don't want to roll a dice on this, I'm telling you. We've been following this case closely for several years, working alongside police departments and legal experts to uncover every detail and bring you never-before-seen footage investigating South Carolina's most disturbing quadruple homicide. It's approximately 10.30 a.m. on a Monday morning, just after Halloween, when the Anderson County Sheriff's Office receives a frantic 911 call from what sounds like a house of horrors.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Ma'am, I can't understand you. What's your address? 2217, Redge's Road. Ma'am, tell me what's going on? My dad. Oh, my God. If somebody hurt, ma'am, I can't... ...in my mom's house in their bed.
Starting point is 00:02:42 There's blood everywhere. Who are these people that are in the house? It's my mom and my grandma and my getting and my stepdad. On the line is 32-year-old Amy Valardi, reporting that her entire family has been... The entire family has been murdered. Within minutes, deputies rushed to the home where the scene awaiting them would be even more brutal than Amy had led them to believe. Once officers step inside, they discover three victims. Mike Scott, Barbara Scott, and Violet Taylor, lying deceased on the living room floor.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Several feet away, inside a bedroom, lies the fourth and final victim. Kathy Scott. Each family member appears to have suffered multiple stab wounds and a single gunshot wound to the head. As crime scene investigators begin processing the home, they discover a trail of shoe prints, a chlorox bleach bottle sitting in the kitchen sink, and two cell phones discarded outside, the only significant clues left behind by whoever carried out this brutal attack. Back outside, deputies speak with a 911 caller, Amy. She tells officers that she tells officers that she and her husband Ross live next door and became concerned after her mother, Kathy, failed to take her dog outside this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:06 When Amy went to check on her, she says that's when she discovered the bodies of her parents and grandparents. After clearing the entire house and finding no murder weapon and very little physical evidence left behind, investigators grow increasingly concerned. They're dealing with a ruthless and calculated killer, and that these may not be his first victims. At this stage, the only people on the investigator's radar are Amy and Ross, seemingly grieving relatives of the victims. However, later that evening, as news of the Scott family murders spreads across Anderson County, Amy's ex-husband, Neil contacts police
Starting point is 00:04:48 with some interesting information. Said you were married to Amy previously? I was her first husband. I believe she's capable of this. I say that. because while we were married, she tried to step me. What brought on y'all's separation? The fight? Actually, that was one of three fights. One, she just tried to charge me. She was about to come back after me.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And the other time, was a knockdown dragout where I was told she hit me in one of my friends with the ballback. I don't remember that. The separation was on adultery charges. Did you get knocked out or something? I blacked out. Well, listen, Neil, I appreciate you calling in, and I'll keep your information handy. Amy's violent history places her under suspicion, but that soon becomes the least of detective's concerns, as she and Ross begin behaving in ways no genuinely grieving couple ever should.
Starting point is 00:05:43 On Wednesday morning, acting on information from Amy's ex-husband, investigators quickly secure a search warrant for Amy's trailer and rush over. The moment they step inside, they're struck by a peculiar smell. One, eerily similar to what they encountered at the murder scene. As the search continues, detectives uncover an unusual amount of cash. $68,000 bundled inside a bedroom safe, along with 18 firearms, all of which are seized as potential evidence. Considering Amy and Ross's modest lifestyle, this discovery immediately raises questions. After clearing the trailer, investigators ask Amy and Ross to
Starting point is 00:06:27 come to the station for an opportunity to clear their names. And interestingly, both agree, almost as if they've been expecting this very moment. Once Amy and Ross arrive at the station, they're immediately asked if they're willing to undergo a polygraph test, something rarely requested of witnesses. Ross agrees and is the first to take a seat. But before asking about the murders, the examiner would begin by trying to better understand the man sitting across from him. And Ross is about to reveal something from his past that makes him almost impossible to break. This is Mr. Lark. I'm polygraphed to that.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I'm not law enforcement in any way form fashion. I do a lot of test for law enforcement, but I don't have gun about it. Any medical problems you know about? Uh, physical or, um, nothing physically wrong? Um, metal problem? I am ready for 30% for PTSD. Were you actually in combat or? I know you had embassy duty, some combat.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah, that was my last three years. My first two and a half I was infantry unit. So you was in combat, the first two and a half years you were there? Yeah, I only did one deployment, so it's not like I did like back to back to the weapons. So you did one deployment in combat? Yes, sir. All right? Correct, I right.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Now, you've been in the Marines, you know what gunshots sounds like? Oh, yeah. You know what screaming and everything sounds like? Oh, yeah. You hear anything that was not ordinary? Not out of the ordinary. Amy Sleeve for our television on. I hate to think that that would be the reason why I wasn't able to go save someone.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Like Amy had that do with this? No, I don't think she had anything to do with this. Although Ross steers detectives away from Amy, his own background has started to draw attention to himself. Ross spent five years in the Marine Corps. During that time, he received extensive hand-to-hand combat training with knives, along with specialized instruction on how to resist interrogation, if ever, captured by the enemy. Realizing this, the examiner would allow Ross to share his thoughts on who could be responsible,
Starting point is 00:08:35 and his answer would be unexpected, to say the least. How do you think I did this? I have no freaking clue. Do you do it? Did I do it? No. What you got to tell them? There's three possible scenarios that... Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:54 A lot of it. One, Mike deals in a lot of gold. He buys and sells gold. He buys and sells guns. And he buys and sells video games and stuff like that. And maybe someone was disgruntled to the sale, or maybe someone noticed that, you know, he dealt in a lot of this stuff and figured they'd cash in. You know, that's one scenario that could be a, yes, my possibility.
Starting point is 00:09:24 The other one, I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday of this past week. Okay. He had mentioned to me that he had seen Amy's ex. Huh? Amy's ex-husband kind of skulking around. And then the third thing that I've kind of been thinking over the last couple of hours, but the last 24 is the last couple of weeks, Mike has, and it may kind of like a weird habit where he'll just kind of walk up to the end of the driveway
Starting point is 00:09:58 and he'll just make, you know, kind of make a couple of circles and kind of look back and forth and then he'll go up and walk up the road. So I don't know if that's something that is real suspect. I don't know if that's something that's relevant. But at this point, you know, the detectives are telling me, hey, yeah, think of anything that might be out of the ordinary. Unsurprisingly, none of Ross's theories involve himself or Amy, but now it's time for the polygraph, and detectives are about to find out whether years of marine training are an... Two and five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters.
Starting point is 00:10:38 On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in... support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. Have to help Ross beat it.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And any of the marine trying, y'all have been talking about if you got captured or anything about polygraph or anything? If you get caught, captured or whatever, you're giving your name, your rank, social security number, blah, blah, blah, don't give any other information,
Starting point is 00:11:14 and so on and so forth. Do you live in South Carolina? Yes. Regarding the physically harmment of those people, do you intend to answer truthfully's question? Yes, sir. Before last year, did you ever intentionally harm anyone? No, sir. Did you physically harm anyone in that house?
Starting point is 00:11:31 No, sir. Is there something else you afraid of what asked your question about? No, sir. So you kept calling it a test. Did I pass my test? Huh? I just joking. I said, keep calling it a test, you know, did I pass my test?
Starting point is 00:11:44 The examiner gives nothing away, leaving Ross in the dark about whether he passed. asked or failed his polygraph. Meanwhile, Amy is brought into another room for her own test. Like Ross, she's about to be asked who she believes is responsible for her family's murders, and her answer would shift suspicion to someone already familiar to investigators. This is probably gone through you had a million times since then. Tell me what your theory is. A lot of different scenarios of length of my head.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Mm-hmm. My ex-husband who did not have a good relationship with my parents. Can you think of a motive why he would be involved in something like that? My mom and step-out were pushing him for child support. We're pushing him to take care of the son. Okay. He was not doing that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Tell me why you would not be involved in something like this. I love my family. I love them. There's no way that I could, and especially the scene that was in there, I could never do that kind of thing. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Although Amy attempts to steer detectives towards her ex-husband Daniel, they have no evidence linking him to the murders and are not considering him a suspect. But now it's time for the test. Unlike Ross, she's never been trained to withstand the pressure of a high-stakes interrogation. And as far as she knows,
Starting point is 00:13:17 both her future and Ross's depend entirely on her results. Okay, please sit still. The test is about to begin. Are the lights on in this room? Yes. Regarding whether you were involved in the deaths of any of those people in that double light, are you going to tell me the truth today? Yes. Were you present when any of those people in that double wide were shot? No.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Did you cause it? any of those injuries to any of those people in that double wire? No. Do you know the name of the person who caused any of those injuries to any of those people in that double wire? No. You may not be entirely satisfied in the way things you're going. No. Right now.
Starting point is 00:14:07 No, no. I'm just going to tell you right up front, you failed the crap out of this polygraph. Okay. There's no doubt my mind that you are involved in some of you. in some way, shape, or form in this. Okay. And it wasn't even close. It wasn't even close.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I mean, you failed the cowboy dog shooting out of this test. You could not have done any worse. Their theory is that you're dead smack in the middle of this thing, and Ross is dead smack in the middle of it. But didn't Ross pass this? No. Hell no. No, we didn't pass it.
Starting point is 00:14:43 If you go smoke, you can come back and talk to us. Um, I would like to go talk to my lawyer and her office next. Thank you for you time. Well, let me ask you this. My goal, every time I do this, is to be fair. Do you think I was fair to you today? Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. In reality, from this moment on, Amy would hold a grudge against the examiner,
Starting point is 00:15:10 one that would stay with her for years. Despite failing the polygraph, polygraph, the results alone aren't enough to prove guilt. Without a confession or physical evidence, detectives have no choice but to let the couple go. And before long, the investigation comes to a halt. As weeks turn into months, leads begin to dry up and the case eventually goes cold. For a time, Amy continues giving public interviews, pleading for the killer to be found. But behind closed doors, life goes on for Karamee and Ross, and it appears they've put the tragedy behind them.
Starting point is 00:15:53 After inheriting the family's home, the couple begins renovating the very place where the murders took place. Once the work is complete, they move in and settle into a comfortable new life, benefiting from the money left behind by the victims. During this time, Ross would spend nearly $40,000 on a Dodge Ram, a Mustang, two Harley Davidson motorcycles, and a Yamaha personal Watercraft. Eventually, the couple would sell the home and move to West Columbia, South Carolina. All the while, they would keep the truth hidden not only from investigators, but also from their own children, who were still too young to understand where all this newfound fortune had come from. It's now 2003, and in an unexpected twist, the television series Cold Justice approaches the Anderson
Starting point is 00:16:53 and County Sheriff's Office with the hope of finally solving the case, and eight years later, the investigation is officially reopened. Detective Tyler Duncan is assigned alongside veteran investigator Steve Spengola, and together, they're tasked with re-examining every piece of evidence collected back in 2015. And as he scrolls through years of Facebook posts, he comes across something unexpected. A video, the couple would soon regret not deleting. Without this recording, detectives might have hit yet another frustrating dead end, especially since Amy's parents had no CCTV cameras surrounding their home.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You guys keep calling the police and you guys keep making a call. I did not call no police. I don't know anything like. I don't know what people do. I don't know what checker does. That's all right. He's making problems for Amy and I, not for us personally, but for our people. Amy and me, not Amy and I.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Amen at me. Wow. Wow. Hold on, let me go get my grandmother who's actually an English teacher, and we'll find out who's correct on that. Okay. Why don't you have Grandma left to come out here real quick? I don't think your grandma wants to deal with this trash. No.
Starting point is 00:18:08 This is ridiculous at this point. Dad, you don't know doo-doo from beggars? Yeah, that's right, Jimmy. I'll be later on me. I'll show you stuff. Yep, see you. Hope you guys. And then look.
Starting point is 00:18:19 This footage completely contradicted. The critics the story Amy and Ross had been telling police for years, becoming the first major lead Detective Duncan believes could finally crack the case. And so, after eight years with virtually no progress, Detective Duncan prepares to pay Amy and Ross a visit, a couple who have spent nearly a decade believing they got away with murder. But what Detective Duncan is about to do is not without risks. Knowing the couple had already lawyered up in the past, detectives know they have only one, chance to get this right or risk the case going cold for good. On December 11th at 8 a.m., Detective Duncan and Spengola head to Amy and Ross's new home in
Starting point is 00:19:03 West Columbia, South Carolina, more than 100 miles from where the murders took place. Once they arrive, the people inside the house have no idea, their lives are about to be turned upside down forever. You ready? Let's go. Let's go. There we go. Hey. How are you, Ross? I'm Tyler Duncan.
Starting point is 00:19:34 I'm with Anderson County Sheriff's Office. This is Steve. How you guys? How's it going? So we're, I got assigned the case back to homicide to happen in Pendleton in 2015. Okay. And so I'm trying to go around basically and start from the beginning and since Amy, is Amy here? She is.
Starting point is 00:19:50 So since she's the one that called 911, I think you were there also. Yeah, well I mean I showed up just after you call after. Okay. Yeah. So we'd like to talk to you. We're kind of starting front of the beginning of the case and going back through. Yeah, my house is a mess right now. Well, that's what we can actually go.
Starting point is 00:20:06 We'll sit in the car here and talk to reports in there. All right. Do you want to talk to both at the same time? We'll talk to you separately. And we'll talk, if you want to come on out, we'll talk to you. And then we'll talk to her. Okay. After Ross steps out of the house and walks towards the detective's vehicle,
Starting point is 00:20:24 all three men know this could very well be their final standoff. The detectives have the element of surprise and the couple's unsettling digital footprint. While Ross relies on a rock-solid story backed by years of marine training, the stakes have never been higher, as the couple's future now rests entirely in Ross's hands. Then we wake you up? Oh, I'm sorry. So if you just want to start from the kind of the beginning of what you remember, and we'll go from there. Canadians will hear the words you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters.
Starting point is 00:21:07 On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca.ca. And this would be fun because that was quite a while ago. I went out to run my errands. I didn't really notice anything out of the ordinary that I could see. You know, that morning when Amy got up,
Starting point is 00:21:47 she had noticed that her mom's dogs had not been taken out yet, which was weird because her mom takes her dogs out every morning. So she went out there to see why her mom's dogs hadn't been taken out. Um, she let her mom's dogs out into the dog run. And she went up to the house to, you know, knock on the door, see if her mom maybe wasn't feeling well, see if something was going on that she didn't, you know, didn't tell him about. So she opened it up, walks in. And that's when she apparently found the scene that she found. She went folding back out of the house.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I believe that's when she made the call. I think she called 911 before she called me, if I remember correctly. From the start, detectives immediately notice a few things. Ross struggles to maintain eye contact, and the story he's telling is one they've already partially verified. On the day of the murders, surveillance footage captured Ross at a nearby quick trip, seemingly supporting his account, but what appeared to clear Ross of suspicion eight years earlier would eventually become one of the strongest pieces of evidence against him.
Starting point is 00:23:07 For now, Ross's story matches his original account, but as he continues talking, small changes would begin to emerge, giving detectives an unexpected lead. Can you describe, I guess, your kind of your relationship with Mike and Kathy? Yeah, so at first, when Amy and I first started dating, my relationship with Mike was really great, actually. Kathy is one of those people that if you don't understand her, she's hard to swallow. But, I mean, overall, I mean, she was a really good person, I think. It's just like just some of her mannerisms were a little bit. We'll say fuck.
Starting point is 00:23:50 There was a couple of things that kind of. or red flags, but I don't know if they have anything to do with this or not. One of them was a really weird times and weird hours of the day and night. I would see Mike walking around the perimeter of the property talking to himself. And something like this, what do you, where does your investigation normally, what do you guys normally follow in cases? TV shows that I watch always say follow the money, right? That's one of the biggest things.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Follow the money and you find out where the real motives are. Interestingly, this follow the money approach will prove to be the key to solving the case, but not in the way Ross thinks. After a few more minutes, Ross's interview comes to an end, and he's asked to let Amy know it's her turn, As detectives wait for her, they know the last time Amy spoke to law enforcement, she sat silently as they angrily confronted her over failing a polygraph test. But now, Amy's attitude would be very different, and detectives are about to see how eight years of carrying a terrifying secret had changed her. He's the victim.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Oh, I got that very quickly. Yep. Very quickly had. And he goes on and on and on. Benefited from this world. Excellent. But follow the money. Follow the money.
Starting point is 00:25:21 You could tell that he's... Yeah, I saw him. Yeah. And every time he's talking, he would look, and then when he would go to answer. And again, I don't, but he can't look at you in the faith. His timeline is extremely off. You can just hop in the passenger seat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Well, we can stand outside. You doing okay this morning? Yeah. Sorry to wake you up. Well, so my name's Tyler, this is Steve. How you? But when we start with a case, you know, we're considered a cold case. We want to start from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:25:57 That's how I operate. I hope you have no bad feelings with me. I'm sorry that maybe the county or somebody has irritated you, I can only imagine. Irritation. You know, you get pretty irritated about lies. I understand. And stuff going around. I understand.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Everything else and how that affects your children. Certainly. But we're trying to do right by your mother. your grandmother, and then obviously Mr. Scott and his mom. I don't know. If y'all are redoing it and y'all going to do it justice, and that would be wonderful. Despite Amy claiming she's okay with the case being reopened, her defensive demeanor tells detectives otherwise.
Starting point is 00:26:40 After reviewing the original case file, Detective Duncan knows that confronting Amy directly has never worked. So, learning from their previous experience, he decided, to take an opposite approach to get to the bottom of what Amy truly feels about the victims. What do you remember? What can you help us with? Where should we look? I mean, obviously you've got to know finding dead people doesn't really leave you in the right state of mind. Can do things to you. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:27:13 But, and then everything that ensued, I mean, honestly, I can't even tell you, I can fairly remember the funerals. I don't really remember much about being inside the house anymore. I think I've blocked that out. And that's just how it's going to have to be at this point. Because I've got children. I've got to be here for them, and I can't be in a loombeen. We had another girl that was working for us. She was around at the time here and there.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Roxy. She said her name was Roxy. Yeah, Roxy, boy. How about leading, so, Ross was telling us a little bit about, like, the relationship between, like, I guess, y'all and the family. And I guess it was good and then something happened? Yeah, I mean what happened. I mean, a lot of people should remember what happened. We got into it around 4th of July or something with Mike.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It didn't have much to do with my mom and my grandmother, of course. My father died when I was 18, so I didn't need another father because I was 23 and had my own kid. And there had always been issues there for years, but way with it. So he had issues with a couple of my ex-husband. He had issues with a couple of my friends. Now, who, this is Mike? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I really hate to tell you all this. It probably sounds horrible coming from me, but he wasn't a nice person. For the first time in eight years, Amy admits she never had a good relationship with her stepfather. But detectives would later learn her resentment towards him went far deeper. She also points Duncan and Spingola towards her friend and former employee, Roxy. Someone detectives now need to interview as soon as possible. Before wrapping up, Detective Spingola has one more question for Amy, one they would return to again and again throughout the investigation.
Starting point is 00:29:05 How are things going financially at that time, okay? Yeah, it was fine. No problems? Nothing abnormal for me. And you tried to cooperate. I know you've answered questions before. Yeah. You took a polygraph?
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. How did that go? They were like, they wouldn't even tell me. They acted like I did something horrible on it, you know, and it's not that I haven't wanted to cooperate, it's just to get to a certain point and you see where things are going and you're like, you know what, this is . Okay. You lost, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Thank you for talking to us. Thank you. Good care. She can't remember anything because she doesn't remember her lies. Am I wrong? Despite Amy's best attempts, detectives know her account is full of lies, even more so than Ross's. Still, at this stage, they have nothing concrete tying either Amy or Ross to the murders, and the couple knows it.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Once detectives return to the station, both sides realize they're at a pivotal point in the investigation, as the next 24 hours could determine whether Amy and Ross walk free or spend their rest of their lives behind bars. The following morning, Detective Scotty Hill and Prosecutor Kelly Siegler follow up on the previous day's leads and decide to pay a visit to Amy's former co-worker, Roxy. The detective's hunch is that Amy believes this interview will strengthen her alibi. But by introducing a new potential witness, whatever Roxy is about to say now has the power to shift the investigation in either the detectives or the couple of the couple.
Starting point is 00:30:45 favor. Hey, Rossi, how are you doing? Good, how are you? Going fine. Basically, what we've decided to do is start this case from the beginning and work it. Like it's never been worked before. Do everything we can. So obviously you were kind of a bit deal on the early, early days of the case.
Starting point is 00:31:09 You worked for a Ross naming, right? How was she to work for? Um, cool. Lay back. Um, we jumped around. We've jubbed around a lot, never took him too serious. I think I've seen Kathy and... What was this name?
Starting point is 00:31:27 Mike. Mike. Two and five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar-raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk. 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcf walk.ca.ca. At the shop, the grooming shop,
Starting point is 00:32:03 twice. And the first time, everything was great. And then the second time they came, it wasn't good. It was kind of, I was in the back grooming, so I didn't hear everything that was going on. But just watching the body language in here, what they were saying at the time, it wasn't, it was something to do with money. Okay. Because afterwards, Stacey, Amy had talked about how she was going to keep her kids away from Kathy and Mike. And that's when they would just wait capoots from there. They never got along after that. And then throughout working there, she'd always tell me about how she was treated growing up and all that.
Starting point is 00:32:49 What kind of stuff would you say by how she was treated? She told me that she was always a daddy's girl. And when her dad passed away, I think she said her dad had a, he was working on the car and it crushed him. And he would place in the hospital. And her mom decided to pull and plug on him. and she said she was only 13, and so she didn't really have a say so, but she always hated a mom for that. What Roxy has just revealed could provide detectives with one of the strongest motives
Starting point is 00:33:26 behind the murders, as Amy's hatred towards her mother over the decision to remove her father from life support had only deepened over the years. And as detectives wrap up the interview and relay their findings to Duncan and Spengola, Amy and Ross are completely unaware that their luxurious life is about to come crashing down. While Amy and Ross continue enjoying their freedom, Duncan and Spingola drive over to two people who knew the victims better than almost anyone else. Their closest friends, Stan and Mary. To see if their stories match, detectives decide to interview them separately. And while they expect to hear more unsubstantiated claims, they're about to uncover much more than that.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Were you just hop in a pasture seat so we can sit down and talk about what happened back in 2015 real quick? We're investigating the case again going through everything. And that's kind of why we kind of talk in private a little bit and just see. I know at some point in time I think you had called and talk with some detectives back then and stuff. I did because I felt like I need to tell them what I knew about what Barbara told me. I kind of come on the case earlier this year and started reviewing it and stuff. I hope you catch it man. I tell you what.
Starting point is 00:34:48 We were with them. Kathy was here that Friday before we don't know exactly when she died either Friday night or Saturday, whatever. But she and Kelly and we told the first people we were really good friends. She cleaned her house but Mike and I were good friends and we sent food home for them. our food was in their refrigerator when they die. I'd say at least three months before that happened. She was just a nervous wreck over what was going on up there in that house.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And then that last time I went, that was just a few days before that happened. Barbara was just, I mean, she was beside herself crying and going on about how Amy, something bad was going to happen because of, Amy just seemed like she just hated their guts. I think the week that he died, or the weekend that he died, I think he told his boss that he knew was gonna die. Do you know why he would sit down? He was gonna get killed.
Starting point is 00:35:52 He was that afraid? Yeah, he just knew. I think they might have, I don't remember all of that stuff, but, you know, it took. To the detective's surprise, neither Stan nor Mary believe these murders. came out of nowhere. Their accounts suggest this may have been a planned attack, potentially explaining why so little evidence was left behind. But what stood out to Stan and Mary even more
Starting point is 00:36:16 was the couple's behavior in the days after the murders, convincing them that one of the Valardis is indeed the killer. Did you go to the funeral map? Is it unusual? That's a funeral. Weird. Weird, why? For them just to come in like they were all upset and concerned about what it had to be. happened, that just didn't seem normal to me, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Do you remember anything unusual happened at the funeral, anything that stuck out of your mind? Do I have to say that? Yeah. I don't want to say it. You know, we're trying to put this together. She was dressed like a... Redd red dress?
Starting point is 00:36:55 Huh? Red dress? I don't remember the color dress, but short dress, boots and all that's coming stuff. Two and five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca.ca. Kelly will be able to tell you more than I can on that. If she wasn't. Speaking to them or having anything to do with them, I don't know why she decided she'd come in and check on. What did you think happened?
Starting point is 00:37:44 The minute I heard it, I thought, Amy's done what she promised she was gonna do. I've never even considered it being anybody else. When you heard they were murdered, what was your first thought? They killed her. What made you say that? They did.
Starting point is 00:38:01 They were ones that killed her. And y'all know that too. So several people told me, you know, just don't have the proof. And what I was told, and I don't know, maybe your sheriff told me that, but they went in over there. The deputies and stuff thought it was a murder and screwed up all the evidence. After speaking with Stan and Mary, detectives Duncan and Spingola know they're closing in on a breakthrough.
Starting point is 00:38:26 They just hope it comes fast enough before the couple disappears. Over the following weeks, Duncan and Spingola conduct dozens more interviews with family members and friends, reexamining every piece of evidence to see whether anything had been overlooked over the years. And that's when they come across something peculiar. Amy had insisted from the beginning, the $60,000 recovered from her home was her savings. But as investigator Duncan digs deeper, he discovers Amy and Ross's dog grooming business had been earning far less than they originally claimed. That's when Spingola uncover something critical, while reviewing the victim's phone record,
Starting point is 00:39:04 he finds that just days before his death, Mike had photographed stacks of cash to prove to a seller that he had enough money for an upcoming purchase. But upon closer inspection, the serial numbers in this photograph exactly matched the cash seized from Amy and Ross's home. Then comes their biggest breakthrough yet. Duncan and Spingola revisit the CCTV footage from the morning of November 1st and identify the shoes Ross was wearing. Red A6 Speedstar sneakers. When they compare them to the bloody footprint left at the scene, the match is undeniable.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Nearly a decade later, Detective Duncan finally has the concrete physical evidence he's been searching for. On the morning of December 20th, detectives returned to the couple's home for what they believe will be their final visit. Once they arrive, they spot Ross's brand new Ford Mustang, confirming the couple hadn't disappeared. While Amy refuses to speak with him this time, Ross agrees to another interview. After eight years without an arrest, Ross is convinced any evidence against him simply doesn't exist. But he's about to get a reality check and his final chance to explain away the damning evidence stacked against him. Hey, so we just want to ask you a couple more things than we're going to get out of here, okay? So there was something that had come up while we was looking through the file.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Do you remember owning like a red pair of shoes? Red pair of shoes? AIC Speedstar shoes. Don't recall. So there was a video on your phone of you wearing these AIC Speed Store shoes. Oh yeah, yeah, okay. I remember those shoes. What happened to the shoes?
Starting point is 00:40:52 Because I don't think they ever found. They never found my shoes. That's a good question because I have no idea. possibly thrown away? The reason that I ask is we found, this is from crime scene photos, and these are confirmed to be ASIC Speed Store shoes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Inside, and they have blood droplets on them. And interestingly enough, you're at the quick trip, wearing those shoes the night of the murders. I have no idea how those shoes would have any kind of blood on. I mean, obviously, wearing them as a kind of quick trip on the 31st. And they never found the clothes either that you were wearing. I mean, I can understand where that would look like to be a problem,
Starting point is 00:41:38 but again, I don't know where the shoes are at the moment, and I don't remember whatever happened to those particular shoes. If something were to have happened that I had done, would be stupid for me to wear them into the house and then wear them after that. Well, that's what I'm saying. They were never found, so it's almost like you got rid of them. And y'all did benefit from the murders? because you got a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:42:01 We've been through your financials. We didn't get it. We didn't get a lot of money from this. Y'all were struggling all up until the murders. The money found in your safe, there's money photos from Mike's computer that match the same serial numbers as the money that was found in the safe. So it's not savings. That's money that was found inside of Mike and Kathy's house that Mike was saving
Starting point is 00:42:21 and y'all took it after you killed them. Okay? And I'm telling you right now, we're going to prove it. Or you can roll it, dice. Your summer travels deserve an upgrade. With select Chevrolete, Buick, GMC, and Cadillac vehicles connected by OnStar, you can stream, game, and more on the go. Whether you're headed to a music festival or a cottage getaway, you can access hundreds of apps on Google Play right from your center display. Explore OnStar Tech today at OnStar.ca and discover how to take your summer to the next level.
Starting point is 00:42:52 OnStar. Better never stops. When that jury comes back, I'm telling me, like you said, it's not going to be pretty here. We're not here because we think you did it or you might have did it. We know you did it. Okay, we're just here as a courtesy. It's piling up, Ross. So you're telling me that, and if you guys said you went through my financials, you saw where I had made the money. And we saw where you spent it. No, you didn't. Yes, we did.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Because I did not. Car was even a report, buddy. I'm not trying to scare you here. That's actually absolutely what you're trying to do. Why not? You said it the best. Follow the money. We did that.
Starting point is 00:43:31 It led right into your single wife. I'm just telling you. Using Ross's own words against him, Detective Duncan and Spingola follow the money, and ironically, it led detectives straight back to him. For the first time, Ross begins to realize he and Amy
Starting point is 00:43:47 may not be as untouchable as they once believed. But even then, he's convinced detectives still don't have enough to secure a conviction and he's about to show them just how confident he really is. Let's just play this out in a hypothetical, right? Right. Let's say a deal happens. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:06 What kind of deal would that be? I don't know, Ross. Okay, but here's the deal. That's a very bad analysis. Here's the thing, sir. Without a deal, there's no hope. Do you believe that? I want you to go and think about this.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I understand that, but my point being is you guys just brought. up my kids, my wife, my family. Right. Mine is gonna be better than Amy, because I came to the trough first, right? Right. So prison time, no matter what. Amy, prison time, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So now you're talking about both of us are going to prison. Um, my three kids in here, they grew up without a father and a mother. Granted my mother would be more than willing to take them. I understand that. We're not the ones who put you on this predicament. Okay, y'all made a decision for whatever reason, okay, to do what y'all did. You say we made a decision.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I'm just telling you. I understand it. We make decisions that are under stress. So now you have, now, you know, eight years, whatever, now you're going to have to deal with the consequences. For almost 10 years now, no one has found anything enough to come down here and bother me or my wife or my family. For eight years, nothing's been enough to come down here. But now all of a sudden, eight years later, there's enough evidence to come bother me. Why or how?
Starting point is 00:45:31 And we found the missing pieces. Okay. And I just showed you one of them. Why is it eight years later that missing pieces have just finally, quote-unquote, falling in a place? I can't answer that because I wasn't the ones that was investigating this case before I got it. So tell me where they fell for sure. I don't know. I can't plead guilty to something.
Starting point is 00:45:53 That... Ross, don't go there. Don't go there anymore, please. I have a lot of respect for you. All right. Don't go there anymore. All right. I did my job and you did yours.
Starting point is 00:46:01 You understand it? Yep. That's it. That's the bottom line. No more bullet. All right. Then if that is where we are, then at this juncture,
Starting point is 00:46:11 it is time for me to hop out of the truck and I probably will be contacting an attorney. You're free to go. Okay. Yep. You guys have a nice drive back to Anderson. Despite her, Ross, still refusing to admit to the horrific crime he and Amy committed, Duncan and Spengola,
Starting point is 00:46:29 no longer need his confession. The evidence speaks for itself. Later that day, both Amy and Ross are arrested and transported to the Anderson County Detention Center, where they are charged with four counts of murder. Based on eight years of findings, this is what investigators believe happened on the night of October 31st, 2015. Around 11 p.m. that night, Amy and Ross walked the short distance from their trailer to the Scott family home. Because they were family, detectives believe they were able to enter the house without forcing their way inside. Investigators believe Mike Scott was attacked first before he had a chance to defend himself.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Kathy Scott, Barbara Scott, and Violet Taylor all suffered slash wounds, which investigators concluded were the fatal injuries. After they had already died, each victim was then shot in the head. Detectives believe Amy and Ross then took the cash Mike kept inside the home before leaving the scene. Two days after the murder, Amy returned to the house and placed the 911 call reporting she had discovered the bodies. In February, 2006, Amy is found guilty on all four counts of murder and sentenced to four life sentences. As of August, 2006, Ross remains behind bars awaiting trial. If convicted, he too could receive four life sentences.
Starting point is 00:47:51 sentences, one for each victim.

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